From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Tue Feb 1 05:19:05 2000
From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 10:19:05 -0000
Subject: HW: Right To Decide
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.101905.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Ah - so they didn't make it!
I'm a digital citizen safe in my room,
Got my video (to) relieve the gloom,
Mind's on the circuit with the news on the screen,
That's a no-go area, it's so obscene.
You can't do this, you can't do that,
Can't go forward and you can't go back,
You can't do this, you can't do that,
Can't go forward and you can't go back.
I'm a born again person, I'm a TV fan,
But there's so many things that I don't understand,
Why do you want to steal when TV's not real?
It's a viewing game...
You can't do this, you can't do that,
Can't go forward and you can't go back,
You can't do this, you can't do that,
Can't go forward and you can't go back
Kevin Perry
Sonic Energy Authority
http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/
----- Original Message -----
From: IAN ABRAHAMS <ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 6:50 PM
Subject: HW: Right To Decide
Kevin, any chance you are going to post up your "take" on the lyrics for
"Right to Decide" please?
Ian Abrahams
ian at abrahamsi.freeserve.co.uk
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 1 06:25:43 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:25:43 GMT
Subject: HW Comic show yesterday
In-Reply-To: Nick Lee's message of Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:38:19 -0000
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.112543.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Nick Lee writes:
> Trev was there (of course) and Steve Hibbert. No Ron or Rizz tho'. An
> artist called Peter Pracownik was there
He's the guy who does all those wizards/faeries/stonehenge prints isn't
he?
FoFP
From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Tue Feb 1 01:17:41 2000
From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 06:17:41 +0000
Subject: BOC: Dont fear the best of, be petrified?
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.061741.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> Track list according to Amazon.com
> 1. Cities On Flame With Rock And Roll
> 2. Red And The Black, The
> 3. Flaming Telepaths
> 4. Astronomy
> 5. This Ain't The Summer Of Love
> 6. Reaper, (Don't Fear) The
> 7. I Love The Night
> 8. Goin' Through The Motions [if this was really chosen by fans...(shudder)]
> 9. Godzilla
> 10. In Thee
> 11. Marshall Plan, The
> 12. Black Blade
> 13. Joan Crawford
> 14. Burnin' For You
> 15. Shooting Shark
> 16. Take Me Away
At least Joan Crawford's on there this time. Can anyone explain to me
why that was left off "Workshop"? That has always confused me.
-- Nick
From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Feb 1 06:23:36 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 07:23:36 EDT
Subject: BOC: Dont fear the best of, be petrified?
In-Reply-To: <200002011126.GAA16496@cobalt.netphd.net>
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.072336.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 1 Feb 00, at 6:17, Nick English wrote:
> > Track list according to Amazon.com
> > 8. Goin' Through The Motions [if this was really chosen by
> > fans...(shudder)]
It was chosen by fans, just not BOC fans!
theo
From AgentOF at AOL.COM Tue Feb 1 07:40:20 2000
From: AgentOF at AOL.COM (Chuck Saden)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 07:40:20 EST
Subject: BOC: Dont fear the best of, be petrified?
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.074020.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/1/2000 6:24:32 AM Central Standard Time,
tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes:
<< It was chosen by fans, just not BOC fans!
>>
Yeah, they had all the BOC songs cut out in strips and the room fan blew
Going through the motions in front of the producer and it took it as a sign
from God to include it ... and I'm sure the song's title had NOTHING to do
with the producer's actual enthusiasm for the project ;-)
chuck
From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Feb 1 08:06:22 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 08:06:22 -0500
Subject: BOC: Dont fear the best of, be petrified?
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.080622.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>In a message dated 2/1/2000 6:24:32 AM Central Standard Time,
>tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes:
>
><< It was chosen by fans, just not BOC fans!
> >>
>Yeah, they had all the BOC songs cut out in strips and the room fan blew
>Going through the motions in front of the producer and it took it as a sign
>from God to include it ... and I'm sure the song's title had NOTHING to do
>with the producer's actual enthusiasm for the project ;-)
Ian Hunter was spotted at the ballot box with an army of his
cronies, he must've done it!
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Feb 1 08:06:21 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 08:06:21 -0500
Subject: BOC: Dont fear the best of, be petrified?
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.080621.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>At least Joan Crawford's on there this time. Can anyone explain to me
>why that was left off "Workshop"? That has always confused me.
They seemed to only be using 2 tracks off the later cds.
"Burning For You" was gonna be a given, as one of the big three.
JC would've meant leaving off 'Veteran of the Psychic Wars'.
For me, personally, I love JC, but I'd have to go with VotPW.
For CBS, I dunno. Maybe the fact that it was in 'Heavy Metal'
was why they went with it.
Personally, I would've rather seen less Club Ninja tracks and
more of other stuff, but regardless, I have to still say
WotT is the best collection out there.
It's biggest crime, in my mind, was that they took 'The Marshall
Plan' and nothing else from Cultosaurus.... that album deserved
at least two cuts, and Marshall Plan wouldn't have been one of
the two if I were making the call... (I'd go with any of Black
Blade, Lips in the Hills, or Unknown Tongue)...
At any rate, glad to see some BOC discussion again.
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Feb 1 09:05:45 2000
From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:05:45 -0000
Subject: BOC: Dont fear the best of, be petrified?
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.140545.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Bonnie Tyler was with him.
:-)
R.
> >In a message dated 2/1/2000 6:24:32 AM Central Standard Time,
> >tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes:
> >
> ><< It was chosen by fans, just not BOC fans!
> > >>
> >Yeah, they had all the BOC songs cut out in strips and the room fan blew
> >Going through the motions in front of the producer and it took it as a
sign
> >from God to include it ... and I'm sure the song's title had NOTHING to
do
> >with the producer's actual enthusiasm for the project ;-)
>
> Ian Hunter was spotted at the ballot box with an army of his
> cronies, he must've done it!
>
> "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
> ===============
> Andrew Apold
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From m.s.wright at READING.AC.UK Tue Feb 1 10:13:45 2000
From: m.s.wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 15:13:45 +0000
Subject: HW: off
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.151345.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Review from the Observer, 30th Jan.
Primal Scream, Exterminator.
'Kill all hippies' urges the title of the opener of Primal Scream's 6th
album. Perhaps Bobbie Gillespie and the boys should start with an act of
self-immolation, since much of Exterminator sounds like Hawkwind with
added drum programmes...
And what's all this with Motorhead chic? A spice girl wearing a t-shirt,
and models in TopGirl ads wearing them? Never would have happened in my
day.
Mike w
p.s. despite 84 people looking at my croydon photos only one person has
expressed an interest in receiving any of them for free. This kind of
rejection can hurt a chaps feelings.
From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Feb 1 09:41:27 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 09:41:27 -0500
Subject: BOC: Dont fear the best of, be petrified?
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.094127.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>> Ian Hunter was spotted at the ballot box with an army of his
>> cronies, he must've done it!
>Bonnie Tyler was with him.
However, we must always remember that it was Steven
Swann who told them about it. It's always his
fault.
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From micci at SCI.FI Tue Feb 1 10:37:48 2000
From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:37:48 +0200
Subject: NIK:5.15 & Nik
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.173748.0200.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi!
>Damn! 5:15's cover of "Silver Machine" utterly rocks! I put it up
>alongside the original HW single version above all the other's I've
>heard. Thanks Andy :)
I agree, this really rock!
>The live versions of "Dancing with Mrs. Fisher" and "Waterfall" with
>Brian Robertson are also way cool. I take it the fourth track is the
>Captain Beyond tribute? That's good too. More bands should release
>singles like this :)
Yes, fourth track is in Captain Beyond tribute.
Miikka Wagner
email: micci at sci.fi
http://www.sci.fi/~micci
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Feb 1 10:31:37 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 10:31:37 -0500
Subject: HW: Griffin *IS* alive
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.103137.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi Folks...
I *did* get a response from Griffin, with an attachment of a ad flyer for
"Thrilling Hawkwind Stories."
Here's the gist of it (now I'm *really* confused)...
Hawkwind - Thrilling Hawkwind Stories (Live '76)
Available: 4th January, 2000 (somehow, I doubt it!)
Cat No.: GCD-840-2
Label: Griffin
UPC: 0-54421-28402-0
SLP: $14.98
The first live album to come from the highly popular Astounding Sounds Tour
back in the heady days of 1976.
Track Listing:
Brainstorm (9.23)
Wind of Change (4.31)
Steppenwolf (11.17)
Uncle Sam's On Mars (6.56)
Time for Sale (10.13)
Back on the Streets (4.40)
Sonic Attack (6.01)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
OK, that's all it says. Now is this going to turn out to be the same CD as
the Voiceprint Atomhenge '76 disc? (Can anyone here tell what gig this is
just from the tracklisting and lengths alone?) And if this is indeed a
US/Canada release of the Voiceprint thingy, how does that affect this crazy
coupon-for-freebie thing? I suppose we'd have to buy the import just for
that reason, eh?
Oh, well, good to see Griffin's still in the game (there was another
announcement for a John Martyn 1990 double live CD ("Dirty, Down & Live")
with Dave Gilmour as guest, so it does appear they are regularly releasing
stuff again).
Keith H. (FAA)
From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Feb 1 10:52:36 2000
From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 15:52:36 -0000
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.155236.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
A Wu-Tang Clan in thing apparantly, but a giggle none the less.
http://www.recordstore.com/cgi-bin/wuname/wuname.pl
I'm Sabre-toothed Portillo. Apparantly.
Cheers,
Rich.
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From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Feb 1 11:16:38 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:16:38 -0500
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.111638.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Rich thrust the following upon us...
>A Wu-Tang Clan in thing apparantly, but a giggle none the less.
I don't know who or what the Wu-Tang Clan are (the name is vaguely
familiar), but it tells me:
Dave Brock = Flippant She-Creature (the Green-finned Demon's mate?)
(but David Brock = Partially-Formed Transformah)
Robert Calvert = Greasy Choirboy
(but Bob Calvert = Masta Cow)
Ian Kilmister = Pre-Raphaelite Shaolin
(but Ian Kilminster would (if he existed) = Cybernetic Tiger)
Nik Turner = Bilious Bad Janitah
Simon House = Cheeky Delinquent
Doug Smith = Dependable Skeleton (Ha!)
(but Douglas Smith = Bilious Bad Janitah) Hmmmm...seems familiar
Buck Dharma = Masta Cow Hmmmm...seems familiar
Alan Davey = Tha Eurythmic King of Nowhere (where is Bedouin wandering
these days)
Alright, enough.
What the hell is this crap?
Keith H. (FAA) aka Inebriated Assistant (at least they got one right) :)
From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Tue Feb 1 11:17:08 2000
From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:17:08 +0000
Subject: What's your WuName
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 01 Feb 2000 15:52:36 GMT."
<02b701bf6ccc$5d0107a0$3d01a8c0@tpd.co.uk>
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.161708.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> A Wu-Tang Clan in thing apparantly, but a giggle none the less.
>
> http://www.recordstore.com/cgi-bin/wuname/wuname.pl
>
> I'm Sabre-toothed Portillo. Apparantly.
Strange, your name comes out as Inscrutable Drama Queen. You hiding something
Rich ? :-)
Fiendish Observational Comedian
ObSingle: Death In Vegas _Aisha_
From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Tue Feb 1 11:24:38 2000
From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:24:38 -0000
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.162438.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I get Slumbering Pierrot, which is very Moorcock...
Kevin Perry
Sonic Energy Authority
http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/
----- Original Message -----
From: K Henderson <henderson.120 at OSU.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: What's your WuName
From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Feb 1 11:29:23 2000
From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:29:23 -0000
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.162923.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Ah. I tried 'Richard'. :-)
Cheers,
R.
----- Original Message -----
From: bart <bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: What's your WuName
> > A Wu-Tang Clan in thing apparantly, but a giggle none the less.
> >
> > http://www.recordstore.com/cgi-bin/wuname/wuname.pl
> >
> > I'm Sabre-toothed Portillo. Apparantly.
>
> Strange, your name comes out as Inscrutable Drama Queen. You hiding
something
> Rich ? :-)
>
>
>
> Fiendish Observational Comedian
>
>
> ObSingle: Death In Vegas _Aisha_
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From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Feb 1 11:34:18 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:34:18 -0000
Subject: What's your WuName
In-Reply-To: <200002011616.LAA28780@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.163418.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
You may now all address me as:
Bastard, BASTARD HarbourMastah
I love it!
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham
From a.hughes at NEWI.AC.UK Tue Feb 1 11:52:17 2000
From: a.hughes at NEWI.AC.UK (Alun Hughes)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 16:52:17 +0000
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.165217.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Well, I really don't know what to make of this :-)
- Tha Lonely Donkey Kong
>You may now all address me as:
>
>Bastard, BASTARD HarbourMastah
>
>I love it!
>
>-- Andy
>
>mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham
From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Tue Feb 1 11:58:17 2000
From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:58:17 -0500
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.115817.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I rather like mine - Half-Cut Skeleton
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alun Hughes [SMTP:a.hughes at NEWI.AC.UK]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 11:52 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: Re: What's your WuName
>
> Well, I really don't know what to make of this :-)
>
> - Tha Lonely Donkey Kong
>
>
> >You may now all address me as:
> >
> >Bastard, BASTARD HarbourMastah
> >
> >I love it!
> >
> >-- Andy
> >
> >mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham
From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Feb 1 12:10:15 2000
From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:10:15 -0600
Subject: What's your WuName
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLNNCENLINIMONNCJMEFMCCAA.Andy.Gilham@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.111015.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Andy Gilham wrote:
:Subject: Re: What's your WuName
:
:You may now all address me as:
:
:Bastard, BASTARD HarbourMastah
:
:I love it!
:
heh.
I would appear to be Greasy Choirboy.
hrm.
Arin
(who isn't even male.)
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From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Feb 1 11:39:14 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 11:39:14 -0500
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.113914.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>I rather like mine - Half-Cut Skeleton
I'm an 'Asthmatic Enemy of God'
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Tue Feb 1 12:23:17 2000
From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:23:17 +0100
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.182317.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I'm an "Excitable Misunderstood Genius"
Fine...
D+R
--
"Nothing is true - everything is permissible"
Hassan I Sabbah
www.d-rider.de
From chrisr at TIAC.NET Tue Feb 1 12:28:13 2000
From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:28:13 -0500
Subject: Croydon Tree
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.122813.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Just wanted to say that I received the CDs of the Croydon gig. I would
like to thank Dan Witt and whoever else helped to put this CD Tree
together. Being a leaf, I hope to grow into into a branch sometime so
that I may more fully participate and contribute to future Trees.
Thanks,
Chris
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 1 12:32:29 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:32:29 GMT
Subject: CDs available on Glastonbury website
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.173229.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
They list the BBC Sessions CD. Has anyone actually ever seen this?
There's also a disc listed as "Young & Webster Big 3" by Hawkwind.
Anyone know what that is?
FoFP
P.S: I see Hawkwind are extending their lead over Radiohead in the
Glastonbury bands poll. Don't forget to vote and persuade your friends
too.
From flossbac at NLCI.COM Tue Feb 1 12:46:50 2000
From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:46:50 -0500
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.124650.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
My new name is....
The Visible Choirboy
John Majka
flossbac at nlci.com
From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Feb 1 13:09:02 2000
From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:09:02 +0000
Subject: What's your WuName
In-Reply-To: <02b701bf6ccc$5d0107a0$3d01a8c0@tpd.co.uk>
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.180902.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In message <02b701bf6ccc$5d0107a0$3d01a8c0 at tpd.co.uk>, Richard Lockwood
<rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM> writes
>http://www.recordstore.com/cgi-bin/wuname/wuname.pl
>
>I'm Sabre-toothed Portillo. Apparantly.
I'm "Temporary Spastic".
Great.
That'll look good next to Ghost Face, won't it?
--
Jon
From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Feb 1 13:12:32 2000
From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:12:32 +0000
Subject: What's your WuName
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLNNCENLINIMONNCJMEFMCCAA.Andy.Gilham@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.181232.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Dear Mr. Bastard HarbourMastah,
How the devil are you?
Must go for a drink soon,
your friend
--
Temporary Spastic
From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Feb 1 12:23:08 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 13:23:08 EDT
Subject: What's your WuName
In-Reply-To: <02f401bf6cd1$80e2dfe0$3d01a8c0@tpd.co.uk>
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.132308.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Well, I tried 3 variations on my name and got 3 totally different results
[hoping if I used enough combinations I might get a good one!]
first, I used 'ted jackson, ' which resulted in:
Vangelic Surgeon...hmm...not bad, but i thought I could do better, so
next, I tried
'theo jackson.' This yielded: 'Curly-haired Slacker!'
now, this is so close to prophetically true [exc. I'm too old to be called
a slacker--wastrel, maybe, but slacker?] that my jaw damn-near hit
the ground. I should have quit whilst I was ahead, but nooo...
Plugged in 'theodore jackson, ' and got the ultimate:
'Officer Stinkah!'
I didn't try a fourth option...
theo
From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Feb 1 12:26:28 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 13:26:28 EDT
Subject: What's your WuName
In-Reply-To: <dh$YfGA+Eyl4EwQ3@comics.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.132628.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 1 Feb 00, at 18:09, Jon Browne wrote:
> In message <02b701bf6ccc$5d0107a0$3d01a8c0 at tpd.co.uk>, Richard
> Lockwood <rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM> writes
> >http://www.recordstore.com/cgi-bin/wuname/wuname.pl > >I'm
> Sabre-toothed Portillo. Apparantly.
>
>
>
> I'm "Temporary Spastic".
>
> Great.
>
> That'll look good next to Ghost Face, won't it?
> --
Hey, Eric Bloom=Inebriated Assistant!
theo
From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Feb 1 13:31:44 2000
From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:31:44 -0000
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.183144.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Greasy Choirboy signing in
From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Tue Feb 1 13:31:10 2000
From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:31:10 -0000
Subject: OFF: Unlimbo review
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.183110.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Another tape release was reviewd several Zeitgeists ago (use the
search engine) and can be bought through Mick Magics Music &
Elsewhere / United World Underpants thing.
http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com
On 31 Jan 00, at 21:49, K Henderson wrote:
> Somebody here was interested in my thoughts on this...went ahead and
> conjured up this tentative review FWIW...Keith H. (FAA)
>
> Unlimbo - Prahna Fish (1998) Polygraph (UK) Poly #03
>
> Unlike the Delerium lot, Unlimbo is a 'free-festy' style psychedelic band
> that stayed the course and have not dived full-bore into electronica mode.
> I guess that's why they haven't been signed on to Delerium, instead
> releasing this third effort (following a 3-track EP and a 9-track live
> CD...could they be Poly #01 and #02?) on (I'm guessing) their own
> independent label. That said, the seven-member unit does claim multiple
> hands on synths, samples, decks, and various forms of percussion. But
> "Drum & Bass" doesn't come to mind. Rather, from the very opening of
> "Nahton," the words "Ozric" & "Tentacle" are conjured up instead. Circa
> 1990 Ozrics, that is.
>
> Prahna Fish's seven tracks add up to almost 50 minutes, and so Unlimbo
> likes to play around with each idea for about 6-8 minutes or so, relying
> on the usual smattering of reggae/dub rhythms and eastern flavors. In
> lieu of any 'lyrical' vocals, the band employ lots of spoken-word voice
> samples from numerous sources (Captain Kirk and Bones make an appearance),
> including more than a few drug-related passages. For example, in the
> midst of the wonderfully dreamy title track, we hear "You don't have to do
> anything now but hallucinate...I'll come back for you later." Shortly
> thereafter, Gundula Grun's violin and Chris Muggeridge's synths dance
> amongst themselves over an active bassline and punctuated beat, the
> resemblance to Hawkwind's Palace Springs almost too uncanny. "Spellbound"
> is one of the more evolved tracks, practically a medley of many different
> themes with shifting focus (guitar to bass to synth) presented at
> intervals of thirty seconds or so. Very nice. The album finishes off with
> "Inertia," yet another eight-minute space-reggae tune that recalls any
> Ozrics or Dead Flowers tune you care to mention...but at least it's a good
> one. Unlimbo does have a few of their own tricks up their collective
> sleeves. Early in the album, "Flinch" is only classifiable as a 'hoedown
> dub,' Grun's violin more aptly termed 'fiddle.' And then the reggae
> stylings of "Bagdub" are less like the Ozrics' version than the Police's
> take on things. A much freakier version of the Police, no doubt, and a
> nice guitar solo to boot.
>
> 'Prahna Fish' hardly treads upon virgin ground, but yet I still feel it
> deserves high praise. The Ozrics spawned a whole slew of copy-cats, some
> of which turned out to be superior to this listener's ears (the
> aforementioned Dead Flowers and Ship of Fools, for example). David Hands'
> guitar work is notably less prevalent than Ed Wynne's contribution to any
> given OT disc, but the clever use of sampled voices, lots of extra-spacey
> synths, and violin and didgeridoo fill any suspected void quite
> satisfactorily. I can't predict how long Unlimbo can stay 'relevant' in
> the neo-psychedelic world in this guise, but given their strong
> musicianship, capable song-writing, and high freakiness factor, future
> albums aren't likely to be stinkers at least. On the web, www.unlimbo.com
> (though there's hardly anything there, at least that my browser can
> access).
>
Blessings and peace from Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground
E-zine, freezine and online Record Store http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com
PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK
"The way I keep in touch with the world is very gingerly, because the world touches too hard" Don Van Vliet
alternate url: http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot
From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Tue Feb 1 13:41:22 2000
From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 12:41:22 -0600
Subject: What's your WuName
In-Reply-To: <200002011827.NAA01905@syr.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.124122.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000, Ted Jackson jr. wrote:
:Subject: Re: What's your WuName
:
:On 1 Feb 00, at 18:09, Jon Browne wrote:
:
:> In message <02b701bf6ccc$5d0107a0$3d01a8c0 at tpd.co.uk>, Richard
:> Lockwood <rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM> writes
:> >http://www.recordstore.com/cgi-bin/wuname/wuname.pl > >I'm
:> Sabre-toothed Portillo. Apparantly.
:>
:> I'm "Temporary Spastic".
:>
:> Great.
:>
:> That'll look good next to Ghost Face, won't it?
:> --
:
:Hey, Eric Bloom=Inebriated Assistant!
Mike Moorcock=Asthmatic Enemy of God
I'm amused ;)
Arin
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From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Tue Feb 1 13:48:39 2000
From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 13:48:39 -0500
Subject: What's your WuName
In-Reply-To: <200002011827.NAA01905@syr.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.134839.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Me is:
Bellowing Rap Machine (????)
LOL
Michael S. Habiby
from the land of president Bilious Bad Janitah or 100 Watt Warlock depending
on how formal you want to be
From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Feb 1 13:43:29 2000
From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:43:29 -0000
Subject: HW: Right To Decide
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.184329.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
The Griffin 25 Years On comp gives them as:
I'm a digital citizen, all safe in my room
I've got my video to relieve the gloom
Mind's on a circuit with the new news on the screen
Life's a no go area its all obscene,
'Cause you can't do this, you can't do that,
You can't go forward and you can't go back
I'm a plugged in person, I'm a TV fan
But there's so many things I don't understand
What do you want to steel when on TV its not real
Its a viewing game
Nick
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From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Feb 1 13:44:44 2000
From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:44:44 -0000
Subject: HW Comic show yesterday
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.184444.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
->He's the guy who does all those wizards/faeries/stonehenge prints isn't
>he?
>
>FoFP
>
Yeah,
there was plenty of that kind fare available too.
Nick
From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Feb 1 13:47:46 2000
From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:47:46 -0000
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.184746.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I get:
Action-Packed Mentallist (!)
Nick Lee
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Lockwood <rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: 01 February 2000 15:52
Subject: What's your WuName
>A Wu-Tang Clan in thing apparantly, but a giggle none the less.
>
>http://www.recordstore.com/cgi-bin/wuname/wuname.pl
>
>I'm Sabre-toothed Portillo. Apparantly.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Rich.
>
>
>__________________________________________________
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
>http://im.yahoo.com
From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Tue Feb 1 13:48:56 2000
From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS])
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 13:48:56 -0500
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.134856.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I'm Masta Cow....
Hmmmm
-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Jackson jr. [SMTP:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU]
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 9:26 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
Subject: Re: What's your WuName
On 1 Feb 00, at 18:09, Jon Browne wrote:
> In message <02b701bf6ccc$5d0107a0$3d01a8c0 at tpd.co.uk>, Richard
> Lockwood <rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM> writes
> >http://www.recordstore.com/cgi-bin/wuname/wuname.pl > >I'm
> Sabre-toothed Portillo. Apparantly.
>
>
>
> I'm "Temporary Spastic".
>
> Great.
>
> That'll look good next to Ghost Face, won't it?
> --
Hey, Eric Bloom=Inebriated Assistant!
theo
From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Feb 1 13:55:39 2000
From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:55:39 -0000
Subject: OFF: Unlimbo review
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.185539.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I caught these guys a couple of years back at a free festival in on of MKs
parks. Hadn't heard of them before but they played a damn fine set. Bought
Prahna Fish is a pretty cool recording. As they come from Luton, which is
only 20-odd miles away, I'd expected to see/hear a lot more of them, but
alas no.
yours,
Action-Packed Mentallist
From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Tue Feb 1 13:56:19 2000
From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS])
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 13:56:19 -0500
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.135619.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
-----Original Message-----
From: Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] [SMTP:DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 10:49 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
Subject: Re: What's your WuName
I'm Masta Cow....
Hmmmm
Dan Ductor (L.A. Dan)
-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Jackson jr. [SMTP:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU]
<mailto:[SMTP:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 9:26 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
Subject: Re: What's your WuName
On 1 Feb 00, at 18:09, Jon Browne wrote:
> In message
<02b701bf6ccc$5d0107a0$3d01a8c0 at tpd.co.uk
<mailto:02b701bf6ccc$5d0107a0$3d01a8c0 at tpd.co.uk> >, Richard
> Lockwood <rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM
<mailto:rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM> > writes
>
>http://www.recordstore.com/cgi-bin/wuname/wuname.pl > >I'm
> Sabre-toothed Portillo. Apparantly.
>
>
>
> I'm "Temporary Spastic".
>
> Great.
>
> That'll look good next to Ghost Face, won't it?
> --
Hey, Eric Bloom=Inebriated Assistant!
theo
From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Feb 1 14:00:51 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:00:51 -0500
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.140051.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>
>Hey, Eric Bloom=Inebriated Assistant!
Nah, use Jesse Python = Sweaty Butcher
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Tue Feb 1 14:40:34 2000
From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:40:34 -0000
Subject: HW: Right To Decide
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.194034.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
You're right about the first line of the second verse - my mistake on that
one.
---
Kevin Perry
Sonic Energy Authority
http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/
"It is the business of the future to be dangerous;
and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its
duties."
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Lee <nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: HW: Right To Decide
The Griffin 25 Years On comp gives them as:
I'm a digital citizen, all safe in my room
I've got my video to relieve the gloom
Mind's on a circuit with the new news on the screen
Life's a no go area its all obscene,
'Cause you can't do this, you can't do that,
You can't go forward and you can't go back
I'm a plugged in person, I'm a TV fan
But there's so many things I don't understand
What do you want to steel when on TV its not real
Its a viewing game
Nick
From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Feb 1 14:41:56 2000
From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:41:56 EST
Subject: OFF: WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.144156.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/1/00 10:57:12 AM Pacific Standard Time,
nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET writes:
> yours,
>
> Action-Packed Mentallist
Hey, Nick Lee--that's my WuName, too! What the hell??
Not that I get any of this anyway, Chuck Rosenberg (APM)
From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Tue Feb 1 14:55:17 2000
From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:55:17 -0500
Subject: WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.145517.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Kinda scary - but I entered my wife's name and got the same wu-result as
mine.
Signed,
Half-Cut Skeleton (and his better Half-Cut Skeleton)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuck Rosenberg [SMTP:Chuckrecs at AOL.COM]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 2:42 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: OFF: WuName
>
> In a message dated 2/1/00 10:57:12 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET writes:
>
> > yours,
> >
> > Action-Packed Mentallist
>
> Hey, Nick Lee--that's my WuName, too! What the hell??
>
> Not that I get any of this anyway, Chuck Rosenberg (APM)
From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Tue Feb 1 15:46:17 2000
From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 14:46:17 -0600
Subject: HW: Griffin *IS* alive
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.144617.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>"Thrilling Hawkwind Stories."
>Hawkwind - Thrilling Hawkwind Stories (Live '76)
>Available: 4th January, 2000 (somehow, I doubt it!)
>Cat No.: GCD-840-2
>Label: Griffin
>UPC: 0-54421-28402-0
>SLP: $14.98
Well, I got something a little different from Susan the other day...
She said it was called "Thrilling Stories" a studio version of Live `79
and will be out in Mid-Feb - - - See the "What's New(s)" page at
Hawkman Music.
>Oh, well, good to see Griffin's still in the game
Well, not really....I asked if there are any planned RE-stocking of the
titles already out of print, and she said NO. So the Griffin Catalog of
Hawkwind CD's are slowly shrinking and going the way of one way :)
Hawkman will carry it, and it will probably be $11.99 regular price.
$10.99 if you mention this ad in your order.
Simon House on Griffin are all gone too. I ordered 2 Jewel Case
and 2 Digipak issues of Yassassaammmssaasmm, and only got in
One digipack. I guess the very last copy they had.
Anyone out there know how I can get in touch with EBS ? ?
The address on Welcome, turned out a returned letter to me.
Hawkman
From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Tue Feb 1 17:22:18 2000
From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:22:18 -0500
Subject: What's your WuName
In-Reply-To: <200002011827.NAA01905@syr.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.172218.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>Hey, Eric Bloom=Inebriated Assistant!
>
>theo
Albert Bouchard!
your Wu-Name is Jive Talkin' Choirboy
Contagious Specialist (sounds like CDC don't it? Jason}
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics."
-F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_
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From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Tue Feb 1 17:36:58 2000
From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:36:58 -0500
Subject: OFF: really off wuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.173658.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
King Crimson!
your Wu-Name is
Lesbian Pimp
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics."
-F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_
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From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Feb 1 17:03:39 2000
From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 22:03:39 -0000
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.220339.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
----- Original Message -----
From: Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] <DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: What's your WuName
> I'm Masta Cow....
>
> Hmmmm
>
Ah indeed - then I'm very pleased to meet you sir - since my udder name
appears to be International Cow. 8-(
Jeez - whose warped mind thought that lot up?!
jill
------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
Jill Strobridge <jill at theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk>
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---
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Jackson jr. [SMTP:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 9:26 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: Re: What's your WuName
>
> On 1 Feb 00, at 18:09, Jon Browne wrote:
>
> > In message <02b701bf6ccc$5d0107a0$3d01a8c0 at tpd.co.uk>,
Richard
> > Lockwood <rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM> writes
> > >http://www.recordstore.com/cgi-bin/wuname/wuname.pl > >I'm
> > Sabre-toothed Portillo. Apparantly.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm "Temporary Spastic".
> >
> > Great.
> >
> > That'll look good next to Ghost Face, won't it?
> > --
>
> Hey, Eric Bloom=Inebriated Assistant!
>
> theo
>
From vince-l at EROLS.COM Tue Feb 1 17:41:21 2000
From: vince-l at EROLS.COM (Vince LeGrand)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 17:41:21 -0500
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.174121.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
You should all fear me now, I am
Flailing Fanatical Killer
Vince
-----Original Message-----
From: Hall, Russell J <russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: What's your WuName
I rather like mine - Half-Cut Skeleton
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alun Hughes [SMTP:a.hughes at NEWI.AC.UK]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 11:52 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: Re: What's your WuName
>
> Well, I really don't know what to make of this :-)
>
> - Tha Lonely Donkey Kong
>
>
> >You may now all address me as:
> >
> >Bastard, BASTARD HarbourMastah
> >
> >I love it!
> >
> >-- Andy
> >
> >mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham
From colum26 at YAHOO.COM Tue Feb 1 18:12:42 2000
From: colum26 at YAHOO.COM (=?iso-8859-1?q?colm=20mcwilliams?=)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 15:12:42 -0800
Subject: your having a laugh!!
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.151242.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hello fellow space cadets of space ship hawkwind!!!
I rarely post messages to the list but i usually lurk
about and try and read them all. Anyway I was browsing
ebay just now and i was taking aback by one auction in
particular some one has bid $101.50 for the CD of
Hawklords "25 years on". Why i'm in such a state of
shock is because i have exactly the same CD and paid
8.99 for it 5 years ago!!!! I'm one to talk though,
I'm the one paying $31.00 for quark strangness and
charm on cd from the yahoo auction mentioned here a
while back. But that is the BEST album of all time so
i think i can justify the cost!!!
colm
__________________________________________________
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From colum26 at YAHOO.COM Tue Feb 1 18:18:06 2000
From: colum26 at YAHOO.COM (=?iso-8859-1?q?colm=20mcwilliams?=)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 15:18:06 -0800
Subject: your having a laugh!!
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.151806.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
check out ebay theres loads of hawkwind stuff on there
for a change and some of it might require a bank
loan!!!
colm
--- colm mcwilliams <colum26 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> Hello fellow space cadets of space ship hawkwind!!!
>
> I rarely post messages to the list but i usually
> lurk
> about and try and read them all. Anyway I was
> browsing
> ebay just now and i was taking aback by one auction
> in
> particular some one has bid $101.50 for the CD of
> Hawklords "25 years on". Why i'm in such a state of
> shock is because i have exactly the same CD and paid
> 8.99 for it 5 years ago!!!! I'm one to talk though,
> I'm the one paying $31.00 for quark strangness and
> charm on cd from the yahoo auction mentioned here a
> while back. But that is the BEST album of all time
> so
> i think i can justify the cost!!!
>
>
> colm
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
> http://im.yahoo.com
>
__________________________________________________
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Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com
From ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO Tue Feb 1 18:18:48 2000
From: ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO (Ketil Svendsen)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 00:18:48 +0100
Subject: WUt is it?
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.001848.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
well, i emerged on the other side as "Radiophonic Oddity".
some people might agree :-)
ketil svendsen,
norway
From vince-l at EROLS.COM Tue Feb 1 18:34:13 2000
From: vince-l at EROLS.COM (Vince LeGrand)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:34:13 -0500
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.183413.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I put my son Bryan's name in and got what I think is the best one so far:
Well-Liked Assman
He's pretty impressed!
Vince
-----Original Message-----
From: Vince LeGrand <vince-l at EROLS.COM>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: What's your WuName
>You should all fear me now, I am
>
>Flailing Fanatical Killer
>
>
>Vince
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Hall, Russell J <russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM>
>To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>Date: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 12:08 PM
>Subject: Re: What's your WuName
>
>
>I rather like mine - Half-Cut Skeleton
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alun Hughes [SMTP:a.hughes at NEWI.AC.UK]
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 11:52 AM
>> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
>> Subject: Re: What's your WuName
>>
>> Well, I really don't know what to make of this :-)
>>
>> - Tha Lonely Donkey Kong
>>
>>
>> >You may now all address me as:
>> >
>> >Bastard, BASTARD HarbourMastah
>> >
>> >I love it!
>> >
>> >-- Andy
>> >
>> >mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com;
http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham
From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Feb 1 18:57:54 2000
From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:57:54 -0500
Subject: What's your WuName
In-Reply-To: <009d01bf6d0c$d9bde840$052aa8c0@Daddy.Family>
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.185754.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
One of my friends tried it and came up with:
Big Gay Mule
Jeez, you think you know somebody.... ;-)
Brian
aka Embryonic Crusadah
Vince wrote:
>I put my son Bryan's name in and got what I think is the best one so far:
>
>Well-Liked Assman
>
>
>He's pretty impressed!
>
>
>Vince
From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Feb 1 20:09:55 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:09:55 EST
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.200955.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
well, i put in the following:
http://www.recordstore.com/cgi-bin/wuname/wuname.pl
and i got "not found".
yrs. truly,
not found
"<>"
From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Feb 1 20:33:57 2000
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:33:57 -0500
Subject: What's your WuName
In-Reply-To: <3c.fbcd01.25c8dde3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.203357.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote:
=> well, i put in the following:
=>
=> http://www.recordstore.com/cgi-bin/wuname/wuname.pl
=>
=> and i got "not found".
Hey, we must be brothers, because that's my WuName, too! ;-)
Cheers,
Not Found.
(Or, more formally, "The requested URL /cgi-bin/wuname/wuname.pl was
not found on this server," if you please...;)
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..."
--- James Marshall Hendrix
From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Tue Feb 1 21:06:45 2000
From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 21:06:45 EST
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.210645.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
what's my wuname?
american standard! natch!
-rmayo
(oops...that's my loo name...sorry)
From sdvw at BELLSOUTH.NET Wed Feb 2 01:19:16 2000
From: sdvw at BELLSOUTH.NET (Mark Morris)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 01:19:16 -0500
Subject: Delete Me
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.011916.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Please delete my address from the list . Not enough BOC for me to be
interested.
From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Feb 1 13:57:22 2000
From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (IAN ABRAHAMS)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 18:57:22 -0000
Subject: HW: Right To Decide
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.185722.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> Ah - so they didn't make it!
>
> I'm a digital citizen safe in my room,
> Got my video (to) relieve the gloom,
> Mind's on the circuit with the news on the screen,
> That's a no-go area, it's so obscene.
>
> You can't do this, you can't do that,
> Can't go forward and you can't go back,
> You can't do this, you can't do that,
> Can't go forward and you can't go back.
>
> I'm a born again person, I'm a TV fan,
> But there's so many things that I don't understand,
> Why do you want to steal when TV's not real?
> It's a viewing game...
>
> You can't do this, you can't do that,
> Can't go forward and you can't go back,
> You can't do this, you can't do that,
> Can't go forward and you can't go back
>
>
> Kevin Perry
> Sonic Energy Authority
> http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/
Thanks Kevin. Makes a *lot* more sense now I know the second verse doesn't
start:
"I'm a poor dead person, I'm a TV hag" :)
Ian
From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Wed Feb 2 02:47:52 2000
From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Bart Brugmans)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 08:47:52 +0100
Subject: What's your WuName
In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000201184348.00964db0@mail.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.084752.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> One of my friends tried it and came up with:
>
> Big Gay Mule
It named me that too...And I was thinking I was an individual ;-)
--BArt
From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Feb 2 05:17:26 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 05:17:26 EST
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.051726.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/1/00 8:35:03 PM, paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU writes:
<< => and i got "not found".
Hey, we must be brothers, because that's my WuName, too! ;-)
>>
========
we are, all of us, brothers under the Wu.
"<>"
From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Tue Feb 1 14:54:47 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 19:54:47 +0000
Subject: Off: Quicksilver Messenger Service
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.195447.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
This was posted to the Manband Mailing List, and I thought it might be of
interest to the greybeards & archive delvers!
ChrisW
ObVinyl: Ian Carr/Old Heartland & Eberhard Weber/Works
>Picked up an excellent new QMS album called "Lost Gold And Silver" which
>features rare and unreleased prime-QMS (i.e. four piece band sans Dino
Valenti).
>One album is live with the other containing demos/early versions dating
from the
>first album (especially an early take on Gold And Silver) plus the Stand By
>Me/Bears single and, of particular interest to Manfans, the tracks
recorded for
>the Revolution soundtrack and played by Man on the Maximum Darkness tour,
Codine
>and Babe I'm Gonna Leave You.
>
>If you like the first two Quicksilver albums this one is highly recommended -
>there some great playing particularly from Cippolina on the live stuff and
it's
>a bit looser than Happy Trails. Great versions of The Fool, Gold And Silver
>and Dino's Song. No Pride Of Man which is a bit of a bummer. The live
>version of Who Do You Love also not a patch on the Happy Trails version
but it's
>also half the length and a more conventional reading.
>
>It's on Capitol Records so should be reasonably available if you're
looking for
>it.
>
>Allan
"a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" -
Bierce
From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Tue Feb 1 15:04:04 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 20:04:04 +0000
Subject: HW: off
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1000201145522.23996D-100000@suma3.reading.ac .uk>
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.200404.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 15:13 01.02.2000 +0000, you wrote:
>And what's all this with Motorhead chic? A spice girl wearing a t-shirt,
>and models in TopGirl ads wearing them? Never would have happened in my
>day.
>
>Mike w
Yeah, but don't forget that the Lemster used to date a Nolan sister!!!!
>
>p.s. despite 84 people looking at my croydon photos only one person has
>expressed an interest in receiving any of them for free. This kind of
>rejection can hurt a chaps feelings.
Haven't had a chance to look yet!
Cheers,
ChrisW
ObMoreVinyl:Kenny Wheeler/Around 6
"a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" -
Bierce
From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Tue Feb 1 18:37:43 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2000 23:37:43 +0000
Subject: What's your WuName
In-Reply-To: <s8970f50.052@epsilon.newi.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <TUE.1.FEB.2000.233743.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 16:52 01.02.2000 +0000, you wrote:
>Well, I really don't know what to make of this :-)
>
>- Tha Lonely Donkey Kong
>
>
>>You may now all address me as:
>>
>>Bastard, BASTARD HarbourMastah
>>
>>I love it!
>>
>>-- Andy
>>
And I am "Homicidal Terrahawk" (you have been warned)
I smell a rat though! When I put in Chris W, I also got "Tha Lonely Donkey
Kong"
I have declined other possibilities from some forms of my name!
Helen is the magnificent "Superintendent God-Botherer"
Homicidally Yours,
ChrisW
"a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" -
Bierce
From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Feb 2 08:11:43 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:11:43 +0000
Subject: Off: Lemmy in The Wire
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.131143.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Yes, that magazine that mostly covers "weird shit"...
Lemmy is their guest for the "Invisible Jukebox" feature, giving forthright
opinions on a selection of toons without prior identification...and they
spell his name wrong 8-{P
Subject matter includes:-
Pink Fairies' "Teenage Rebel" (from "The Pink Fairies Master Series" -
anybody know what this is?)
ZZ Top "Tush"
Metallica/SFSO "Master of Puppets"
I'll try and scan or transcribe this for interested parties who can't find
the mag for themselves.
ChrisW/Homicidal Terrahawk
"a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" -
Bierce
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Feb 2 08:43:38 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:43:38 -0000
Subject: Lemmy in The Wire
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000202131143.0079dab0@mail.clara.net>
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.134338.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> Pink Fairies' "Teenage Rebel" (from "The Pink Fairies Master Series" -
> anybody know what this is?)
It's not on Voiceprint, by any chance? :)
-- Andy
ObCD: The King - _Gravelands_ (remarkable versions of, among others, "Love
Will Tear Us Apart" and "Sweet Home Alabama," in the style of Elvis Presley)
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham
From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Feb 2 08:32:40 2000
From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:32:40 +0000
Subject: Off: Lemmy in The Wire
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000202131143.0079dab0@mail.clara.net>
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.133240.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In message <3.0.6.32.20000202131143.0079dab0 at mail.clara.net>, Chris
Warburton <desdinova at EARTHLING.NET> writes
>Pink Fairies' "Teenage Rebel" (from "The Pink Fairies Master Series" -
>anybody know what this is?)
Cheap comp. recently from Polydor, stuff from Never Never Land, Kings of
Oblivion and Bunch of Sweeties. ?9.99 Remastered. Essential if you
ain't got this stuff already.
--
Jon
From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed Feb 2 09:11:51 2000
From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 09:11:51 -0500
Subject: BOC: Compilation Madness
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.091151.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> At least Joan Crawford's on there this time. Can anyone explain to me
> why that was left off "Workshop"? That has always confused me.
>
Don't know for sure, but to do this project justice, I've always
maintained that it needed to be a 3 CD set. Too much was left out of
Workshop.
>
> > > 8. Goin' Through The Motions [if this was really chosen by
> > > fans...(shudder)]
>
> It was chosen by fans, just not BOC fans!
Well, the original groundrules for the fans were to identify the tracks
that Joe Q. Public would consider BOC's greatest hits (why they didn't
just ask Joe Q. Public then is beyond me) - still, I don't recall this
one scoring that high.
> It's biggest crime, in my mind, was that they took 'The Marshall
> Plan' and nothing else from Cultosaurus.... that album deserved
> at least two cuts, and Marshall Plan wouldn't have been one of
> the two if I were making the call... (I'd go with any of Black
> Blade, Lips in the Hills, or Unknown Tongue)...
There were a few crimes on Workshop - IMHO, the biggest crime was the
absence of "Hot Rails to Hell", followed by no Imaginos tunes
(especially in light of what the liner notes said about it).
>
> At any rate, glad to see some BOC discussion again.
Yeah, it feels good to vent once in awhile... ;-)
John
From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Feb 2 09:19:33 2000
From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:19:33 -0000
Subject: HW: off
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.141933.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> >And what's all this with Motorhead chic? A spice girl wearing a t-shirt,
> >and models in TopGirl ads wearing them? Never would have happened in my
> >day.
> >
> >Mike w
>
> Yeah, but don't forget that the Lemster used to date a Nolan sister!!!!
And, speaking of the Nolans, a friend of mine is after the lyrics for "I'm
in the mood for dancing" - can anyone oblige?
(Yes, really)
(Just don't even ask!)
Cheers,
Sabre-toothed Portillo.
__________________________________________________
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From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Feb 2 09:25:57 2000
From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:25:57 -0000
Subject: OFF: Pink Fairies
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.142557.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I'm sure this was discussed a couple of years ago, but... is Kings of
Oblivion out on CD?
Cheers,
Rich.
__________________________________________________
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Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com
From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Feb 2 08:27:56 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 09:27:56 EDT
Subject: BOC: Compilation Madness
In-Reply-To: <38983B25.4404E3DC@mitre.org>
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.092756.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 2 Feb 00, at 9:11, John A. Swartz wrote:
> > It's biggest crime, in my mind, was that they took 'The Marshall
> > Plan' and nothing else from Cultosaurus.... that album deserved at
> > least two cuts, and Marshall Plan wouldn't have been one of the two
> > if I were making the call... (I'd go with any of Black Blade, Lips
> > in the Hills, or Unknown Tongue)...
>
How could they exclude 'Lips...or Divine Wind?' Seems a no-
brainer...
>
> There were a few crimes on Workshop - IMHO, the biggest crime was the
> absence of "Hot Rails to Hell", followed by no Imaginos tunes
> (especially in light of what the liner notes said about it).
>
Personally, I think Imaginos stuff shouldn't be included, given that it
was essentially an Albert project, and also given that the members of
BOC [or 3OC] didn't do all that much playing on it!
theo
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Feb 2 09:34:19 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:34:19 -0000
Subject: OFF: Pink Fairies
In-Reply-To: <023501bf6d89$6cdeef80$3d01a8c0@tpd.co.uk>
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.143419.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I'm pretty sure I've seen it, but that was a few years ago... you're
looking for the lyrics to "I Wish I Was A Girl" now? :))
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On
> Behalf Of Richard Lockwood
> Sent: 02 February 2000 14:26
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: OFF: Pink Fairies
>
>
> I'm sure this was discussed a couple of years ago, but... is Kings of
> Oblivion out on CD?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rich.
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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>
From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Feb 2 09:20:07 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 09:20:07 -0500
Subject: BOC: Compilation Madness
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.092007.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>Personally, I think Imaginos stuff shouldn't be included, given that it
>was essentially an Albert project, and also given that the members of
>BOC [or 3OC] didn't do all that much playing on it!
That is a valid point, but if that were the reason for leaving
it off, Levy should have not mentioned it on the liner notes,
or at least noted and credited Albert properly (yeah, right).
I only have on comp with any imaginos tunes on it, and that
one cut out like half of one of the songs. I think it was
"Reaper: the best" or something like that (FAQ not handy).
Still waiting for the remastered, all tunes restored,
proper tracklist, version of Imaginos. I imagine I'll
be waiting for quite some time.
'till then I have piecemeal tape, using Brain Surgeons (Girl,
overture) and SWU (GBC) as substitutes.
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Wed Feb 2 05:34:06 2000
From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:34:06 +0000
Subject: BOC: Compilation Madness
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.103406.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> Personally, I think Imaginos stuff shouldn't be included, given that it
> was essentially an Albert project, and also given that the members of
> BOC [or 3OC] didn't do all that much playing on it!
>
> theo
Yeah, but it would have been nice to have a couple of the tunes on
there, especially something like ". . . Frankenstein. . ." or "Blue
Oyster Cult". Maybe "In the Presence. . . "
For me, when I've got it all on studio albums already, there's not much reason
to buy a compilation other than the lure of having everything in one
compact collection -- easily transportable, no CD-changing, etc.
Unfortunately, it would probably take FOUR CDs just to capture what
I'd consider BOC's "bare essentials". But instead of one
all-encompassing set, we get 65 different single-CD compilations, all
with the same damn 15 songs! Go figure!
Off topic -- The Life and Crimes of Alice Cooper is hands down the
best box set I've ever owned. Everything right down to the packaging
kicks all manner of ass! Lots of rarities, including the two songs he
did for his movie "Monster Dog"!!! If you're a Coop fan, do not
hesitate to buy this thing!
-- Nick
From ChStier at AOL.COM Wed Feb 2 11:20:51 2000
From: ChStier at AOL.COM (Chris Stier)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 11:20:51 EST
Subject: My Wu Name
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.112051.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Ok, finally got through to the site and received my Wu Name... You may now refer to me as the Violent Toilet Thing. :-)
Chris
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Feb 2 11:30:54 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 16:30:54 -0000
Subject: My Wu Name
In-Reply-To: <5a.d0f074.25c9b363@aol.com>
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.163054.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Actually it occurs to me that this is something both BOC and HW have in
common with the Wu-Tang Clan - these OTT aliases. OK, so most of the BOC
ones didn't stick ("Jessie Python"), and the HW ones are only occasionally
used ("Thunder Rider," etc), but in principle they're not so different from
"Ol' Dirty Bastard." And wouldn't we have loved to have had a HW or BOC
themed beat-'em-up (so to speak :) game on our Playstations, like the Wus'
"Taste the Pain." If we'd had Playstations. You know what I mean.
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On
> Behalf Of Chris Stier
> Sent: 02 February 2000 16:21
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: My Wu Name
>
>
> Ok, finally got through to the site and received my Wu Name...
> You may now refer to me as the Violent Toilet Thing. :-)
>
> Chris
>
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Feb 2 12:33:15 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 12:33:15 -0500
Subject: OFF: Space Rock Fragrance
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.123315.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi Folks...I swear, this is a legitimate news report...Keith H. (FAA)
PARIS, Feb 2 (AFP) - A bizarre fragrance that smells of
meteorites has been developed by British perfume experts, New
Scientist reports in Saturday's issue.
The wacky odour, called Cyba, smells "sulphurous, smoky, like
gunpowder, metallic," according to its creator, Les Small, of Quest
International, a company owned by the chemicals giant ICI.
The "futuristic, atmospheric" perfume -- devised to show that
the firm can emulate the smell of pretty much anything -- mimicks
the molecules given off by carbonaceous chondrite, the commonest
mineral found on meteorites.
From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Feb 2 13:02:57 2000
From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:02:57 -0800
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.100257.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
The best one I got by typing in the names of people I know was my boss:
Drunken Gentleman
It fits him!
-Erratic Assassin
ceres at sirius.com
( ... of Silence, presumably ... )
From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Feb 2 13:18:22 2000
From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:18:22 -0800
Subject: OFF: Pink Fairies
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.101822.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
There were Japanese CD's of the three original Pink Fairies' albums
(NeverNeverLand, What A Bunch Of Sweeties, Kings of Oblivion) in the early
90s, but they're all out of print now. Besides that, those three albums
have never been released on CD AFAIK (although a certain collector-SCUM
store in NYC has been known to sell CD-R's of the albums for outrageous
prices).
That new collection sounds like a good one, especially since "Teenage
Rebel" was inexplicably left off the self-titled budget compilation LP on
Polydor from the 80s.
-Doug
ceres at sirius.com
On Wed, 2 Feb 2000 14:34:19 -0000, Andy Gilham <Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM>
wrote:
>I'm pretty sure I've seen it, but that was a few years ago... you're
>looking for the lyrics to "I Wish I Was A Girl" now? :))
>
>-- Andy
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On
>> Behalf Of Richard Lockwood
>> Sent: 02 February 2000 14:26
>> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
>> Subject: OFF: Pink Fairies
>>
>>
>> I'm sure this was discussed a couple of years ago, but... is Kings of
>> Oblivion out on CD?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rich.
From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Wed Feb 2 13:48:22 2000
From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 13:48:22 -0500
Subject: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.134822.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
So what is "Tha 23rd Buchan?"
Ron
From Hawkfan at ZAROZINIA.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Feb 2 14:19:21 2000
From: Hawkfan at ZAROZINIA.DEMON.CO.UK (David Holden)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 19:19:21 +0000
Subject: NIK: on new compilations CD
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.191921.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Just surfed onto this site with
Nick Turner Fantastic All-Stars El Dizzy (4'53")
form "The Big Green Experience CD"
http://www.gfutures.demon.co.uk/BGG_CD.htm
also available for download.
Keep a hold
--
Dave
From Hawkfan at ZAROZINIA.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Feb 2 14:48:54 2000
From: Hawkfan at ZAROZINIA.DEMON.CO.UK (David Holden)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 19:48:54 +0000
Subject: NIK: on new compilations CD
In-Reply-To: <PpeJrBA5MIm4Ewr2@zarozinia.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.194854.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>Just surfed onto this site with
>
>Nick Turner Fantastic All-Stars El Dizzy (4'53")
>form "The Big Green Experience CD"
>
>http://www.gfutures.demon.co.uk/BGG_CD.htm
>
>also available for download.
>
>Keep a hold
Thought it was to good to be true only 1:18mins available for download.
bugger
I guess that's more cash on records
keep a hold again
--
Dave
From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Wed Feb 2 15:48:13 2000
From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:48:13 -0500
Subject: BOC: Compilation Madness
In-Reply-To: <38983B25.4404E3DC@mitre.org>
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.154813.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 09:11 2.2.00 -0500, you wrote:
>Don't know for sure, but to do this project justice, I've always
>maintained that it needed to be a 3 CD set. Too much was left out of
>Workshop.
Amen to that. If only some record company was brazen enough to invest time
and energy and enthusiasm into producing a top-notch box set chockful of
things that are not just the usual "best of" fare.
For me, the proliferation of best of CDs makes me wonder how much control
BOC actually has over the publishing of its back catalog. the Oyster boys
(hopefully) are aware of how many compilations are floating in the dreck of
the CD seas and I'd hope they'd have more common sense than rehashing under
numerous repackagings. It almost like Sony/Columbia is still aware of the
money
making potential of the group in regard to its classic rock radio stapes of
(df)tr, bfy, godzilla and tries to cash in the continued radioplay they get.
If Elektra was smart, it would release the stalkforrest sessions in NICE
pacakging and poop like that to undermine their Sony competition or
something like that.... of course you realize this assumes that the BOC fan
market is highly sought after :)
>
>just ask Joe Q. Public then is beyond me)
They probably did ask him and he said "Blue Oyster Who?"
>There were a few crimes on Workshop - IMHO, the biggest crime was the
>absence of "Hot Rails to Hell", followed by no Imaginos tunes
>(especially in light of what the liner notes said about it).
To extract from an article that's worth remembering given this: (writer be
Michael Goldberg, the editor grande of Addicted to Noise)
Of course with the release of Workshop of the Telescopes it's possible not
only to re-evaluate the BOC, but for you, who may have, for whatever
reason, overlooked the group (or perhaps only heard their one Top 40 hit,
"Don't Fear the Reaper"), to discover them. In fact, there has never been a
better time for a Blue Oyster Cult revival.
While the new album does gather some of the group's strongest material, it
is a disconcerting affair, at least for someone who wore out their vinyl
copies of the group's early albums. And strangely enough, while I'm sure
the intention was to make a case for the band, bringing together what
someone probably believes is their best material, listening to the album is
something of a let down.
Why?
Blue Oyster Cult albums were, from my vantage point, true concept albums.
The songs were arranged so that one led into another, vicious rockers gave
way to ethereal ballads. The first three albums were, quite simply,
perfect. No wasted tracks. Somehow, by taking some of the songs out of
their original context and slamming them up against songs that they were
not meant to sit beside, so to speak, the net effect is less than it should
be. But then maybe fresh ears, not
accustomed to "The Last Days of May" inevitably giving way to "Stairway to
the Stars," will find Workshop of the Telescopes something of an
inspiration. I certainly hope so. Any way that the Blue Oyster Cult can get
their due as one of the truly great bands of the '70s is just fine by me.
>
>>
>> At any rate, glad to see some BOC discussion again.
>
>Yeah, it feels good to vent once in awhile... ;-)
venting is good excuse to play On your feet or on your knees loudly at the
neighbors while reciting the "lucifer rap" w/ Eric bloom goofily :)
As to the Imaginos stuff not being on the recent comp., I wonder if it's
because of the legal tomfoorely which ate up the 80's over its ownership.
In which case, the question is: Who has publishing control over "Imaginos"
the album?
speaking of box sets, Fleetwood Mac has a new'un out with the comlete Blue
Horizon sessions, 1967-1969. In other words, its the peter green era with
remastering by original producer Mike Vernon and chockful of extra tracks.
no cd is under 50 min. in length!
the pious email of good omen,
Jason
From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Feb 2 14:26:57 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 15:26:57 EDT
Subject: BOC: Compilation Madness
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20000202154813.00697ce4@mail1.wizvax.net>
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.152657.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 2 Feb 00, at 15:48, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote:
>
> For me, the proliferation of best of CDs makes me wonder how much
> control BOC actually has over the publishing of its back catalog.
Virtually none, I'm afraid. Sony can pretty much do what they want.
The only songs BOC have any rights to, I think, are the ones that
appeared on Cult Classic. I thinkk that Albert was paid a lump sum
by Sony, and may even get some residuals for songs that he wrote.
Don't take this as gospel, I'm just going on a faded memory here. I'm
sure someone will correct me...
the
> Oyster boys (hopefully) are aware of how many compilations are
> floating in the dreck of the CD seas and I'd hope they'd have more
> common sense than rehashing under numerous repackagings. It almost
> like Sony/Columbia is still aware of the money making potential of the
> group in regard to its classic rock radio stapes of (df)tr, bfy,
> godzilla and tries to cash in the continued radioplay they get.
Hey, it costs Sony almost nothing--remember they 'own' the songs,
and we all know how cheap it is to press CDs...Can't miss situation
for Sony...
If
> Elektra was smart, it would release the stalkforrest sessions in NICE
> pacakging and poop like that to undermine their Sony competition or
> something like that.... of course you realize this assumes that the
> BOC fan market is highly sought after :)
Sought after by whom? Obviously not record companies...I doubt
Elektra would make a nickel on such a project, and given the recent
shakeups in the music biz, it sure looks doubtful anyone would take a
gamble...
> Why?
>
> Blue Oyster Cult albums were, from my vantage point, true concept
> albums. The songs were arranged so that one led into another, vicious
> rockers gave way to ethereal ballads. The first three albums were,
> quite simply, perfect. No wasted tracks.
Right you are, oh wise visitor from the east...
>
> As to the Imaginos stuff not being on the recent comp., I wonder if
> it's because of the legal tomfoorely which ate up the 80's over its
> ownership. In which case, the question is: Who has publishing control
> over "Imaginos" the album?
That's a good question. Only Al probably knows for sure...
>
>
theo
From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Feb 2 15:05:02 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 20:05:02 +0000
Subject: Lemmy in The Wire
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLNNCENLINIMONNCJEEGLCCAA.Andy.Gilham@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.200502.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
No, it's on Polydor - I wondered if it was perhaps the 3 original albums or
summat...
At 13:43 02.02.2000 -0000, you wrote:
>> Pink Fairies' "Teenage Rebel" (from "The Pink Fairies Master Series" -
>> anybody know what this is?)
>
>It's not on Voiceprint, by any chance? :)
>
>-- Andy
>
"a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" -
Bierce
From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Feb 2 17:20:10 2000
From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Your Name)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 17:20:10 -0500
Subject: BOC: Compilation Madness
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.172010.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
"Ted Jackson jr." wrote:
> On 2 Feb 00, at 15:48, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote:
>
>
> Virtually none, I'm afraid. Sony can pretty much do what they want.
> The only songs BOC have any rights to, I think, are the ones that
> appeared on Cult Classic. I thinkk that Albert was paid a lump sum
> by Sony, and may even get some residuals for songs that he wrote.
> Don't take this as gospel, I'm just going on a faded memory here. I'm
> sure someone will correct me...
>
None of the band has any input in any of these compilations. Buck told me
last Saturday that none of the band had any input. We all wish they'd put
out some other stuff. Yes I still get royalties for the records they sell.
>
> If
> > Elektra was smart, it would release the stalkforrest sessions in NICE
> > pacakging and poop like that to undermine their Sony competition or
> > something like that.... of course you realize this assumes that the
> > BOC fan market is highly sought after :)
>
>
I think some other company has bought those tapes. We've all heard the
rumors they're coming out but that's been floating around for a few years
already.
>
>
> > As to the Imaginos stuff not being on the recent comp., I wonder if
> > it's because of the legal tomfoorely which ate up the 80's over its
> > ownership. In which case, the question is: Who has publishing control
> > over "Imaginos" the album?
>
Columbia still has all rights to the Imaginos tapes, both the released
songs and the unreleased ones.
From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 2 19:11:34 2000
From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 19:11:34 EST
Subject: BOC: Compilation Madness
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.191134.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/2/00 3:05:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, js3619 at WIZVAX.NET
writes:
<< For me, the proliferation of best of CDs makes me wonder how much control
BOC actually has over the publishing of its back catalog. the Oyster boys
(hopefully) are aware of how many compilations are floating in the dreck of
the CD seas and I'd hope they'd have more common sense than rehashing under
numerous repackagings. >>
there is a few albums' worth of unreleased Cheap Trick stuff gathering dust,
according to their 'official' bio; i emailed Tom Peterson at the CT website
(he really does answer!) about when we might see some of this stuff, and his
reply was:
'when sony wants to put it out. they own the rights to all that stuff.'
i doubt very much that BOC has ANY control over what their previous labels
release. this could all come down to whatever deal they signed w/cbs way back
when; not ever knowing (perhaps) that they would be as successful as they
have been and still an 'ongoing concern' now. i'm sure they get their
publishing royalties for all of the back catalog re-hash, but no say in what
cbs does or does not do.
rmayo
From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 2 19:14:55 2000
From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 19:14:55 EST
Subject: BOC: Compilation Madness
Message-ID: <WED.2.FEB.2000.191455.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/2/00 3:27:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes:
<< .I doubt
Elektra would make a nickel on such a project, and given the recent
shakeups in the music biz, it sure looks doubtful anyone would take a
gamble... >>
no, but elektra could sell the rights to the tapes to another label that
specialises in that sort of thing; Griffin, Castle, CMC, etc. and make a few
bucks off of something that's just...gathering dust, doing nobody any
good....
maybe someday...
rmayo
From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Wed Feb 2 23:02:18 2000
From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 04:02:18 +0000
Subject: My Wu Name
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.040218.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> > Ok, finally got through to the site and received my Wu Name...
> > You may now refer to me as the Violent Toilet Thing. :-)
> >
> > Chris
Greetings to you , Violent, from the Loose-Lipped Controllah (???)
-- Nick
From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Feb 3 04:40:10 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 04:40:10 EST
Subject: BOC: Compilation Madness
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.044010.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/2/00 7:16:17 PM, RMayo19761 at AOL.COM writes:
<< no, but elektra could sell the rights to the tapes to another label that
specialises in that sort of thing; Griffin, Castle, CMC, etc. and make a few
bucks off of something that's just...gathering dust, doing nobody any
good....
maybe someday...
>>
=============
yiz gotta point there in regards to elektra selling rights to the, um, more
appreciative; witness the 7-cd set of the stooge's "funhouse" sessions put
out by rhino.
as mr pearson would concur (grin)
"<>"
From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Thu Feb 3 05:24:36 2000
From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (David Greenhalgh)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 19:24:36 +0900
Subject: My Wu Name
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.192436.0900.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
You should be so lucky, I'm a flippant she-creature which is
profoundly worrying. Mind you Partially Formed Transformah wasn't
much better!
Concerned
Nick English wrote:
> > > Ok, finally got through to the site and received my Wu Name...
> > > You may now refer to me as the Violent Toilet Thing. :-)
> > >
> > > Chris
>
> Greetings to you , Violent, from the Loose-Lipped Controllah (???)
>
> -- Nick
From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Feb 3 07:33:22 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 07:33:22 EST
Subject: OFF: Terrascopic News
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.073322.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
To reach Phil, the editor of the Ptolemaic Terrascope magazine write to:
ptolemy at terrascope.org
For questions about the website write to Jon at:
admin at terrascope.org
Now, on to the news!
* People patiently waiting for Ptolemaic Terrascope issue 28 should know
that it now has been printed and is currently (as at 2nd February) being
collated. Phil hopes to be able to collect it in the next week or so, and
once he's stuffed 'em all into envelopes should get copies in the mail and
off to you about three days after that. It's got a silver cover (!) and the
features include:
The Kinks (an interview with Dave Davies this time)
The Magic Band (a previously unpublished interview with Captain Beefheart
himself)
The Six Organs of Admittance (marvellous mystical folk-psych from amongst
the Californian redwoods)
The Deviants (hilarious Japanese tour diary by Mick Farren)
Charles Shaar Murray (an interview with the legendary UK journalist,
godfather of punk)
Mac Macleod interview (seminal UK folk singer & Hurdy Gurdyist, was also in
Donovan's backing band for years)
- plus the usual rag-bag assortment of other stuff.
The accompanying CD features unreleased stuff by Greg Weeks, the
Virgineers, the Deviants, Six Organs of Admittance, Mac Macleod, the
Wellwater Conspiracy, Help Yourself, Pangolin and others.
If you are not already a subscriber, the magazine can be purchased from the
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There are also a very few copies of issue 27 still in stock for the same
price.
* Ever gluttons for punishment, the editorial team are already working on
issue 29. Planned for Summer publication, features should include
[interviews with] Flying Saucer Attack, John Mayall, Greg Weeks, Os
Mutantes, Juneau, Scenic, the Small Faces, Broken Dog and Dipsomaniacs with
CD tracks by several of those as well as the Holy River Family Band (a
spin-off of the Spacious Mind for the uninitiated; Sweden's Spacious Mind
being the finest prog/folk/psych band in Europe right now and veterans of
Terrastock 3, for those who have no idea why they've even been sent this)
* Talking of which, plans are afoot to stage a fourth Terrastock this year,
in a last ditch attempt to recover the financial losses incurred at the
otherwise hugely successful Terrastock 3 last Summer. We're looking to hold
it in Seattle, and have dates in early November pencilled in, but PLEASE
don't get in touch asking for further information just yet. We'll let
subscribers know just as soon as we're ready to make an announcement and
will open the floodgates immediately afterwards.
* To avoid confusion, any festival held this year will definitely be billed
"Terrastock 4" and not "Terrastock 2000" as has been previously suggested.
Following lengthy and at some times heated negotiations, Phil has reached
an amicable agreement with the Chair of the International Scientific
Committee, Prof. Dr. E. Hahne of Stuttgart University in Germany, that the
name Terrastock will be loaned by ourselves (the Copyright holders) to him
for the duration of the International Conference on Thermal Energy Storage
on 28 August - 1 September 2000.
(sadly this is not a joke! Further details of Terrastock 2000 can be found
at http://www.itw.uni-stuttgart.de/terrastock - keep an eye on our own
website http://www.terrascope.org for details of Terrastock 4 meanwhile)
* All being well there will also be a Terrastock 5 (in 2001), and we have a
city, venue and dates in mind for that as well - again, more information
will be posted on our website as and when it becomes available.
* Discussions are also in progress towards the release of a Boxed Set of
selected live recordings from across the three Terrastock festivals to
date. Once agreed it's hoped to be able to include a major "Family Tree",
cross referencing all the Terrastock performers to date, which has been
pieced together by Mr. Jeff Penczak over the course of several months and
many hours. There's also an option available to publish and expand the tree
into book format at some point.
* A reminder that those mysterious, elusive erstwhile boxers at Radio Never
Say Die have oodles of live recordings from Terrastock 3 available at
http://www.rnsd.com - and have just updated their site with recordings and
film of Terrastock veterans Bevis Frond, the Alchemysts and the Lucky
Bishops live at the Royal Standard in London at the "tinystock" show on
30st January just gone.
* Finally, we were very proud and very honoured to find ourselves heading
the year-end DroneOn list poll for 1999 in the magazine category. Full
details can be found at: http://www.webstudio.com/do99/zine99.cfm
- and our grateful thanks to anyone reading this who happened to vote for us.
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From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Thu Feb 3 03:11:25 2000
From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 08:11:25 +0000
Subject: BOC: Compilation Madness
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.081125.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> yiz gotta point there in regards to elektra selling rights to the, um, more
> appreciative; witness the 7-cd set of the stooge's "funhouse" sessions put
> out by rhino.
Yeah. I always figured a major label release of that stuff would be
totally out of the question. Even CMC might be a little too "major".
But there are labels that would probably do it. Maybe we should start
inquiring of them. . . ?
-- Nick
From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Thu Feb 3 10:45:18 2000
From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:45:18 +0100
Subject: HW: NZ tour track-list
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.164518.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi folks
Look what I found in another HAWKWIND related discussion list:
NZ tour track-list:
right stuff
coded languages
motorway city
assault and battery
golden void
forge of vulcan
spirit of the age
assasins of allah
arrival in utopia
blue skin
free fall
brainstorm
ejection
uncle sams on mars
gremlin
cheers
Bernhard
From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Thu Feb 3 10:50:57 2000
From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Bart Brugmans (aka Gekke Henkie))
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:50:57 +0100
Subject: HW: strange meetings
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.165057.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I was in a cafe last night talking to a guy who I just met earlier that
day.
We talked about the Tibet Support Group and came on to HW.
He told me his Uncle is the guy on the Hawlords album
Space is deep...
--BArt
From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Thu Feb 3 10:53:28 2000
From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Bart Brugmans (aka Gekke Henkie))
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:53:28 +0100
Subject: HW: NZ tour track-list
In-Reply-To: <200002031545.QAA12542@mail.home.ins.de>
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.165328.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>
> Look what I found in another HAWKWIND related discussion list:
What List?
--BArt
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 3 11:31:26 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:31:26 -0500
Subject: HW: NZ tour track-list
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.113126.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Bernhard said...
>right stuff
>coded languages
>motorway city
>assault and battery
>golden void
>forge of vulcan
>spirit of the age
>assasins of allah
>arrival in utopia
>blue skin
>free fall
>brainstorm
>ejection
>uncle sams on mars
>gremlin
Well, this is a great selection of stuff in one sense. But then, don't you
think it's a little odd that there's exactly *one* track from the last 17 or
18 years? I would have thought 'Hippy' could be put in there, and 'Wheels'
or 'Alchemy' for Jerry to crank out. Maybe it's because of Steve Taylor not
knowing the newer stuff?
Anyway, I guess since this is the first NZ/AU tour ever (?), I suppose the
fans down there would just as well hear this 'classic' selection of tunes.
The US tour in '89 (supposedly Xenon Codex! tour, though nothing from this
album was played) was kinda like this...as Palace Springs shows. Only
Treadmill and Back in the Box were 'new.' I loved it...from Magnu to
Damnation Alley, and beyond! :)
Any mention of the fire/lightshow? Any Maori's on-stage?
Keith H. (FAA)
P.S. 'Gremlin' has been the finale hasn't it, not the encore? So was the
encore MotU? Or have they changed this?
P.P.S. I love Motorway City being back in the set!! I just heard the MK
version last night (thanks everyone)...other than Jerry's guitar being hard
to pick out, it sounds great. I want to see them back in the US just for
this reason alone! Probably my favourite (or second favourite after TGV) HW
track of all-time.
P.P.P.S. What does everyone think of the new 'techno-ization' of the ending
to TGV and a little during SotA? I don't mind that they do this a little
during the set (like the Space is Their (Palestine) is pretty cool), but I'm
a little too 'traditional' to easily accept it being used during these two
classics. I was taken aback a little at the end of TGV.
From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Thu Feb 3 11:49:47 2000
From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:49:47 +0100
Subject: HW: NZ tour track-list
In-Reply-To: <B0000059387@njmofs01.njmo.nl>
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.174947.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 16:53 3.2.2000 +0100, you wrote:
>
>> Look what I found in another HAWKWIND related discussion list:
>What List?
http://www.onelist.com/messages/Hawkwind?archive=30
Bernhard
From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Thu Feb 3 11:53:25 2000
From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:53:25 +0100
Subject: HW: NZ tour track-list
In-Reply-To: <200002031631.LAA18638@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.175325.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 11:31 3.2.2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Any mention of the fire/lightshow?
AFAIK the SOLARFIRE LIGHTSHOW is also in NZ/OZ
Bernhard
From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Thu Feb 3 11:59:01 2000
From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 16:59:01 -0000
Subject: OFF: What's your WuName
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.165901.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Well it transpires that I am
Touchy-Feely Unpublished Poet
Stuart
<< => and i got "not found".
Hey, we must be brothers, because that's my WuName, too! ;-)
>>
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From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Thu Feb 3 12:23:20 2000
From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 12:23:20 -0500
Subject: BOC: Compilation Madness
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.122320.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> > There were a few crimes on Workshop - IMHO, the biggest crime was the
> > absence of "Hot Rails to Hell", followed by no Imaginos tunes
> > (especially in light of what the liner notes said about it).
> >
> Personally, I think Imaginos stuff shouldn't be included, given that it
> was essentially an Albert project, and also given that the members of
> BOC [or 3OC] didn't do all that much playing on it!
I absolutely disagree. Whether or not it ever should have been a BOC
record, the fact of the matter is that Imaginos was released under the
BOC banner - and most BOC fans would agree that Imaginos is a decent
album (perhaps even one of their best) - and if you can put Club Ninja
tunes on a BOC compilation, then you can put Imaginos tunes on one as
well. Besides, Workshop was mostly a packaging of singles, and there
were 2 (Astronomy, In the Presence...) singles from Imaginos.
> I only have on comp with any imaginos tunes on it, and that
> one cut out like half of one of the songs. I think it was
> "Reaper: the best" or something like that (FAQ not handy).
Yep. That's a decent compilation, but I guess they ran out of disc
space (the CD is some 77 minutes long).
>
> Off topic -- The Life and Crimes of Alice Cooper is hands down the
> best box set I've ever owned. Everything right down to the packaging
> kicks all manner of ass! Lots of rarities, including the two songs he
> did for his movie "Monster Dog"!!! If you're a Coop fan, do not
> hesitate to buy this thing!
Well, to bring it back ON-Topic, Bolle Gregmar, BOC fanclub president
would agree with you. If he has any input into a BOC box set in the
future, he will probably model some of his input based on that Cooper
box set.
John
From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Feb 3 12:26:04 2000
From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 17:26:04 -0000
Subject: Do you run a Hawkwind site?
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.172604.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Want to make it harder for people to steal your code?
Simply include this in the header of your HTML file... (obviously without
the '*'s)
Try it, then right click on your document.
Nice huh?
(Oh well, just a thought.) :-)
R.
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From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Feb 3 13:25:21 2000
From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 10:25:21 -0800
Subject: ICU: Imperial Pompadours LP found
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.102521.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Another record find in the Bay Area. I'm kicking myself for it and every
other Hawkfan in the San Francisco area should be, too! It turns out that
Amoeba Records in San Francisco has had a copy of the Imperial Pompadours
'Ersatz' LP sitting in the stacks for 3 months priced at $2.95!!!
It might still be there if I hadn't shown my copy of the album to my friend
Karl, who works at the store (otherwise he would have flipped right past
it). And he only found it (and immediately bought it) yesterday. Anyway,
he likes it, but given its' value, he's more interested in selling/trading
(he's a big psych collector) it than keeping it. He says it's in VG+
condition, although the cover may be VG with a couple of bends. Drop me a
line if you're interested in it, and I'll get you in touch with the seller ...
-Doug
ceres at sirius.com
From StevenTice at AOL.COM Thu Feb 3 13:34:48 2000
From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:34:48 EST
Subject: BOC: Imaginos
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.133448.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/3/00 12:22:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jswartz at MITRE.ORG writes:
<< I absolutely disagree. Whether or not it ever should have been a BOC
record, the fact of the matter is that Imaginos was released under the
BOC banner - and most BOC fans would agree that Imaginos is a decent
album (perhaps even one of their best) - and if you can put Club Ninja
tunes on a BOC compilation, then you can put Imaginos tunes on one as
well. Besides, Workshop was mostly a packaging of singles, and there
were 2 (Astronomy, In the Presence...) singles from Imaginos. >>
Not to mention that Imaginos is central to the very identity of the Blue
Oyster Cult... Also, Sandy Pearlman and Albert Bouchard have been extremely
important to BOC, having accounted for most of BOC's earliest songs (it's a
rare song from the first three albums that doesn't list one or the other in
the song credits). AND most of the songs on Imaginos were written for BOC,
but were rejected because the rest of the guys didn't want to do a concept
album at the time they were written. AND two of the songs on Imaginos are
new versions of established BOC songs.
I tend to look at Imaginos as "what if BOC collaborated with a bunch of great
musicians to create the ultimate BOC album."
Steven Tice
From m.s.wright at READING.AC.UK Thu Feb 3 13:36:34 2000
From: m.s.wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 18:36:34 +0000
Subject: Nik: did he really play with...
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.183634.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Dear Hawkers,
if you get to
http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=3:27:15|AM&p=amg&sql=B133255
you will find a list of stuff that Nik is supposed to have been on. Most
of it makes sense, but I am intrigued by Psychic TV's Pagan Day, is it any
good? With Helios Creed and Del and Len Del Rio it might be.
And the 1995 Strangler's (and friends) Live in concert. There is a long
list of friends, some of which I might believe, like Wilko Johnson, Ian
Dury, but Larry Wallis? Steve Hillage? Nik? Can someone explain what is
going on. It is meant to have been released on Receiver.
This site looks like it is setting itself up as the music equivalent to
IMDB, does anyone know how reliable it is?
Mike w
From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Thu Feb 3 13:42:41 2000
From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 18:42:41 -0000
Subject: HW: NZ tour track-list
In-Reply-To: <200002031631.LAA18638@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.184241.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I for one really enjoyed the "techno-isation", but I think "behind the
times" might be a better description than "traditional". I had the
same difficulty getting to grips with electronic music 10 years ago,
but all this stuff should be familiar now.
Besides which, when you see this stuff being performed it is still
very much a live performance, just with a shift of sound. The
original keyboard lines to Spirit were I think more challenging, for
their time.
And wasn't there an electronic-isation of Golden Void in 1982?
Alasdair
On 3 Feb 00, at 11:31, K Henderson wrote:
<big snip>
> P.P.P.S. What does everyone think of the new 'techno-ization' of the
> ending to TGV and a little during SotA? I don't mind that they do
> this a little during the set (like the Space is Their (Palestine) is
> pretty cool), but I'm a little too 'traditional' to easily accept it
> being used during these two classics. I was taken aback a little at
> the end of TGV.
>
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From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Feb 3 13:21:09 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:21:09 -0500
Subject: Do you run a Hawkwind site?
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.132109.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>Want to make it harder for people to steal your code?
>
>
>Simply include this in the header of your HTML file... (obviously without
>the '*'s)
(code deleted)
I find it amusing that people are copying the code to stop
people from copying code.
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Feb 3 14:07:04 2000
From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:07:04 -0800
Subject: HW: NZ tour track-list
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.110704.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Thu, 3 Feb 2000 11:31:26 -0500, K Henderson <henderson.120 at OSU.EDU> wrote:
>P.P.P.S. What does everyone think of the new 'techno-ization' of the ending
>to TGV and a little during SotA? I don't mind that they do this a little
>during the set (like the Space is Their (Palestine) is pretty cool), but I'm
>a little too 'traditional' to easily accept it being used during these two
>classics. I was taken aback a little at the end of TGV.
I haven't heard the current rendition of 'Spirit of the Age' yet (just sent
Kevin my snailmail address for the CD-R tree this morning), but that
strikes me as a song that *would* sound good with 'techno-ization' in parts
... I think that would fit in quite well with the original studio version
and its morse-code tapping and Village People (?!?) "sample" (and I love
that the Fly Ashtray cover version substituted an "Astronomy Domine"
sample). I dunno about "Golden Void", though.
Who sings "Spirit of the Age" on this tour? I hate to say it, but for some
reason I've never liked Dave's vocal delivery on this song - the rhythm
sounds forced and constipated to me (but he's sounded great singing other
Calvert songs like "Death Trap"). OTOH I thought Nik always did a good job
on this one (and, of course, Bob was incomparable!). I'm probably
incorrect, but I think the song would sound fantastic sung by Harvey (done
almost as a rant ala "Coded Languages" or "TV Suicide").
-Doug
ceres at sirius.com
From tclark at PETRONET.NET Thu Feb 3 14:15:57 2000
From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:15:57 -0600
Subject: Do you run a Hawkwind site?
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.131557.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
...and it is especially ironic that it appears to be acceptable to trade
Hawkwind tapes, etc. to further the cause and enjoyment of Hawkwind music, but
some folks think it is not acceptable trade (oh...steal) code do it via web
sites....
>> I find it amusing that people are copying the code to stop
people from copying code. <<
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
"Andrew A. Apold" wrote:
> >Want to make it harder for people to steal your code?
> >
> >
> >Simply include this in the header of your HTML file... (obviously without
> >the '*'s)
>
> (code deleted)
>
>
From tclark at PETRONET.NET Thu Feb 3 14:42:05 2000
From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 13:42:05 -0600
Subject: Do you run a Hawkwind site?
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.134205.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Oops..I need (to) get an e-mail grammar checker
Tom Clark wrote:
> ...and it is especially ironic that it appears to be acceptable to trade
> Hawkwind tapes, etc. to further the cause and enjoyment of Hawkwind music, but
> some folks think it is not acceptable trade (oh...steal) code do it via web
> sites....
>
> >> I find it amusing that people are copying the code to stop
> people from copying code. <<
>
> "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
> ===============
> Andrew Apold
>
> "Andrew A. Apold" wrote:
>
> > >Want to make it harder for people to steal your code?
> > >
> > >
> > >Simply include this in the header of your HTML file... (obviously without
> > >the '*'s)
> >
> > (code deleted)
> >
> >
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 3 18:57:15 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 18:57:15 -0500
Subject: OFF: Darxtar - act quickly!
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.185715.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi Folks...
Some guy on r.m.p. has a copy of Darxtar's Darker (the way oop one!) for
sale/trade, plus a bunch of other spacerock stuff (HW, MQB, etc.).
Here's his email...go over to rmp to check out his list.
mad at mdam.demon.nl
Keith H. (FAA)
P.S. I'm certain it won't last long!!!
From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Thu Feb 3 19:39:20 2000
From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (David Greenhalgh)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 09:39:20 +0900
Subject: PING Bernhard and Alasdair
Message-ID: <FRI.4.FEB.2000.093920.0900.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Gents,
Both your packages located in the bottom of my secretary's
pending tray. My profound apologies. I posted them myself
from the Yokohama post office on the way to work. Bernhard,
the track list will be by email next week.
Sorry to clog the list.
Dave
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 3 20:46:08 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 20:46:08 -0500
Subject: HW: NZ tour track-list
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.204608.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Bernhard said...
>At 11:31 3.2.2000 -0500, you wrote:
>
>>Any mention of the fire/lightshow?
>AFAIK the SOLARFIRE LIGHTSHOW is also in NZ/OZ
Yeah, well, I *knew* that. Was just wondering about the 'reviewer's
impression' of the lights/show. However, looking at the tour dates and
recognizing that they actually haven't yet played a gig, I now understand
that the set list must have been from a rehearsal.
So, never mind...I have another day or two to wait. Hopefully, Richard will
write some more road reports to tell us all how it's going.
Keith H. (FAA)
P.S. I've just now joined Bob Lennon's Hawkwind list. Can anyone tell me
why this one was created? (Is Bob here also?) What's it supposed to offer
that this one doesn't? I don't mean to be critical, I just want to know if
it's a redundant proposition to be on both.
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 3 20:58:19 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 20:58:19 -0500
Subject: HW: Griffin *IS* alive
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.205819.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Stephan said...
>Well, I got something a little different from Susan the other day...
>She said it was called "Thrilling Stories" a studio version of Live `79
>and will be out in Mid-Feb - - - See the "What's New(s)" page at
>Hawkman Music.
Huh? What the hell is that supposed to mean...studio Live '79? Like aren't
there already studio recordings of all those songs? You don't mean to
suggest Hawkwind recorded things like Lighthouse, Shot Down in the Night,
New Jerusalem in the studio as a band, do you? I would've thought that
would have been well-known. Or are you suggesting that the CD is just a
compilation of all the studio versions of the songs that were performed on
that tour? And what the hell would be the point of that? Anyway, I like
the idea I was told...and they sent me the flyer to go with it! I just
wonder whether Griffin and Voiceprint are linking up to do simultaneous
releases now. Esp. since EBS seems to be so quiet.
>>Oh, well, good to see Griffin's still in the game
>
>Well, not really....I asked if there are any planned RE-stocking of the
>titles already out of print, and she said NO. So the Griffin Catalog of
>Hawkwind CD's are slowly shrinking and going the way of one way :)
Well, I imagine that the HW back-catalogue will continually go oop and be
re-re-re-released over and over again. With different cover art, different
writing credits/pseudonyms, bizarre misspellings, mislabeled tracks, you
name it. All versions will eventually become rare kollectors' items, etc. etc.
Like I traded my 25 Years On CD away to someone here about three years ago,
not realizing it was far oop. Doh! But I'm patient...it'll be reissued in
the not-too-distant future I imagine and I'll just get one of those. I
ain't paying $100 on Ebay, that's fer sure! I've still got the LP anyway,
and many of the tracks on other compilations (Tales from Atomhenge, etc.).
So, who was the guy on the cover? Somebody's uncle? Bob's uncle? Bob's
your uncle?
Keith H. (FAA)
From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Thu Feb 3 21:05:59 2000
From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 21:05:59 -0500
Subject: HW: NZ tour track-list
In-Reply-To: <200002031631.LAA18638@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.210559.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
*snip*
>The US tour in '89 (supposedly Xenon Codex! tour, though nothing from this
>album was played) was kinda like this...as Palace Springs shows. Only
>Treadmill and Back in the Box were 'new.' I loved it...from Magnu to
>Damnation Alley, and beyond! :)
>Keith H. (FAA)
I hate to bit a nit picker (although watch me:), but Heads was played on
the US Xenon Codex tour. I would like to have heard other stuff from that
album, on the other hand, some of what was played would then have gone
unplayed. Oh well. BTW, I once heard there was a board tape from the 89
D.C. show floating around. Bernhard? Anyone? I just remember that show
being an outstanding one on that tour, which was awesome to begin with.
Jealous of those Down-Under
From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu Feb 3 21:18:49 2000
From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2000 21:18:49 EST
Subject: HW: NZ tour track-list/onelist
Message-ID: <THU.3.FEB.2000.211849.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/3/00 5:47:10 PM Pacific Standard Time,
henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes:
> Keith H. (FAA)
> P.S. I've just now joined Bob Lennon's Hawkwind list. Can anyone tell me
> why this one was created? (Is Bob here also?) What's it supposed to offer
> that this one doesn't? I don't mean to be critical, I just want to know if
> it's a redundant proposition to be on both.
hello Keith,
the other Hawkwind list was created as a Hawkwind only list.
we discuss Hawkwind and related solo artists - that's it.
so far many (nearly all) discussions have been unique to that list, with
almost no redundancy to this list.
It was created in no way to compete with this list, just as an alternative
for any Hawkwind fans who wish to discuss only Hawkwind (and HW family).
To be frightfully honest, I have absolutely no interest (none whatsoever) in
Blue Oyster Cult....never have...and quite possibly never will.
I hope you find the new list as enjoyable as I have, kick the tires, take it
around the block....if you don't like it...it's free....
space is deep
bob
to join the Hawkwind only list:
http://www.onelist.com/community/Hawkwind
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http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html
From s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Fri Feb 4 00:21:08 2000
From: s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Patrick C.)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 15:21:08 +1000
Subject: HW:NZ/OZ Tracks
Message-ID: <FRI.4.FEB.2000.152108.1000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
(From behind my rock)
I think out of all the HW songs, Flying Doctor would be the most appropriate to play in OZ, we could even get Rolf Harris to do those twanging noises in the background. Unfortunately even though I live in Brisbane I can't make it to the Byron Bay concert, due to my training as a teacher in Ipswich - one good thing is I am teaching Michael Moorcock to Year 10 kids (heh, heh)
Your Wu-tang friend `Illegitimate Muslim Fundamentalist'
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From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 4 04:05:49 2000
From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 09:05:49 +0000
Subject: Off: Lemmy in The Wire
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000202131143.0079dab0@mail.clara.net>
Message-ID: <FRI.4.FEB.2000.090549.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 13:11 02/02/00 , Chris Warburton wrote:
>Yes, that magazine that mostly covers "weird shit"...
and in which Lemmy reveals that he has become our parents... or...
Great Bores Of Today: Lemmy
"Turn that off, it's horrible! Call that music? It's just noise! At least we play tunes. And that bass player can't play at all. We had real music in our days -- let me tell you about rock 'n' roll: [whistles a popular tune from 50 years ago]. See? All those guys were brilliant, not like this modern rubbish. And they played their own instruments. Honestly, you try and bring your kids up right, and they end up listening to rap and other nonsense. No respect, these youngsters..." (contd. p94).
Dave.
Dave Berry, www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~daveb
From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Feb 4 04:28:15 2000
From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 09:28:15 -0000
Subject: Off: Lemmy in The Wire
Message-ID: <FRI.4.FEB.2000.092815.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> >Yes, that magazine that mostly covers "weird shit"...
>
> and in which Lemmy reveals that he has become our parents... or...
>
> Great Bores Of Today: Lemmy
> "Turn that off, it's horrible! Call that music? It's just noise! At
least we play tunes. And that bass player can't play at all. We had real
music in our days -- let me tell you about rock 'n' roll: [whistles a
popular tune from 50 years ago]. See? All those guys were brilliant, not
like this modern rubbish. And they played their own instruments. Honestly,
you try and bring your kids up right, and they end up listening to rap and
other nonsense. No respect, these youngsters..." (contd. p94).
>
Quite right. And in our day everything cost sixpence, was made of wood and
lasted forever. And we lived in a paper bag in a septic tank for three
months...
(etc etc etc to fade...)
:-)
Cheers,
Rich.
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From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Fri Feb 4 04:37:29 2000
From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 10:37:29 +0100
Subject: AW: HW: NZ tour track-list
Message-ID: <FRI.4.FEB.2000.103729.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi
>Oh well. BTW, I once heard there was a board tape from the 89
>D.C. show floating around. Bernhard? Anyone? I just remember that
show
>being an outstanding one on that tour, which was awesome to begin
with.
Oh yes. I've got this one (26.09.89) in excellent soundboard
quality. A great show. But IMHO the Minneapolis and San Francisco shows
(I've got both in soundboard quality as well ) were better
Bernhard
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Feb 4 05:13:30 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 10:13:30 -0000
Subject: NIK: did he really play with...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.96.1000203175322.21533A-100000@suma3.reading.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <FRI.4.FEB.2000.101330.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In Nik's interview on hawkwind.com, someone asked which bands he'd enjoyed
playing with the most, and one he mentioned was indeed the Stranglers.
Might have to get this, it looks good!
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On
> Behalf Of M S Wright
> Sent: 03 February 2000 18:37
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: Nik: did he really play with...
>
>
> Dear Hawkers,
>
> if you get to
>
> http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=3:27:15|AM&p=amg&sql=B133255
>
> you will find a list of stuff that Nik is supposed to have been on. Most
> of it makes sense, but I am intrigued by Psychic TV's Pagan Day, is it any
> good? With Helios Creed and Del and Len Del Rio it might be.
>
> And the 1995 Strangler's (and friends) Live in concert. There is a long
> list of friends, some of which I might believe, like Wilko Johnson, Ian
> Dury, but Larry Wallis? Steve Hillage? Nik? Can someone explain what is
> going on. It is meant to have been released on Receiver.
>
> This site looks like it is setting itself up as the music equivalent to
> IMDB, does anyone know how reliable it is?
>
> Mike w
>
From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Fri Feb 4 06:59:34 2000
From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:59:34 +1100
Subject: HW: NZ tour track-list
Message-ID: <FRI.4.FEB.2000.225934.1100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 3 Feb 00, at 11:31, K Henderson wrote:
> Any mention of the fire/lightshow? Any Maori's on-stage?
Isn't the first gig tonight? How can there be reports allready - the gig would
have barely finished by now????
Sonique (Just 20 days until The Metro gig. WooHoo!)
--
The email address ---> sonique at sonique.net
The current project ---> http://sonique.net/house
The bank balance ---> In the red :)
From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Fri Feb 4 08:09:43 2000
From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 07:09:43 -0600
Subject: HW: Griffin *IS* alive
Message-ID: <FRI.4.FEB.2000.070943.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>>Well, I got something a little different from Susan the other day...
>>She said it was called "Thrilling Stories" a studio version of Live `79
>>and will be out in Mid-Feb - - - See the "What's New(s)" page at
>>Hawkman Music.
>
>Huh? What the hell is that supposed to mean...studio Live '79
Yeah, I don't know....That's what she quoted me, as I was jotting this down
on paper, as I was talking to her. Maybe she was trying to remember what
she read, and got it all mixed up. I probably should have just announced
the CD NAME, and not any details.
Some one else call her today, as I'm hooked on day-trading IPO's on the
Stock Market.
DATEK - - "Modern day version of Las Vegas"
GRIFFIN - (630) 424-0801
I got 20 copies on order, and I should be the first in the country to get
them,
like "In Your Area".
Hawkman
From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Fri Feb 4 08:13:52 2000
From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:13:52 -0500
Subject: Nik: did he really play with...
Message-ID: <FRI.4.FEB.2000.081352.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>And the 1995 Strangler's (and friends) Live in concert. There is a long
>list of friends, some of which I might believe, like Wilko Johnson, Ian
>Dury, but Larry Wallis? Steve Hillage? Nik? Can someone explain what is
>going on. It is meant to have been released on Receiver.
The show with the Stranglers is actually from 1980. Hugh Cornwell was locked
up on drug offences, so they got other people up to sing the songs. Worth a
listen, though could do with being better quality.
Dave
From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 4 08:49:46 2000
From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 08:49:46 EST
Subject: Off: Lemmy in The Wire
Message-ID: <FRI.4.FEB.2000.084946.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
if it was rap he was right.
rmayo
From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Feb 4 09:25:43 2000
From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:25:43 -0000
Subject: Nik: did he really play with...
Message-ID: <FRI.4.FEB.2000.142543.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>And the 1995 Strangler's (and friends) Live in concert. There is a long
>list of friends, some of which I might believe, like Wilko Johnson, Ian
>Dury, but Larry Wallis? Steve Hillage? Nik? Can someone explain what is
>going on. It is meant to have been released on Receiver.
It doesn't seem so odd Larry Wallis playing with The Stranglers. Didn't one
of the Fairies play with The Damaned for a bit?
Steve Hillage however...
Nick
From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Feb 4 09:27:35 2000
From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 14:27:35 -0000
Subject: HW:NZ/OZ Tracks
Message-ID: <FRI.4.FEB.2000.142735.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I think out of all the HW songs, Flying Doctor would be the most appropriate to play in OZ, we could even get Rolf Harris to do those twanging noises in the background.
Your Wu-tang friend `Illegitimate Muslim Fundamentalist'
I'd agree with you there, BTW my friend Ian got that WuName too.
Action Packed Mentallist
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From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Feb 4 10:46:27 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 10:46:27 -0500
Subject: OFF: Ozrics tour
Message-ID: <FRI.4.FEB.2000.104627.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi Folks...
I remember this was mentioned earlier, but wasn't sure if the dates were
well-known here, so here they are. Sorry if it's redundant.
Enjoy! Keith H. (FAA)
Date Venue
Sat 12/2 Aberdeen - Lemon Tree
Sun 13/2 Edinburgh - Venue
Mon 14/2 York - Fibbers
Tue 15/2 Wrexham - Central Station
Wed 16/2 Ashton-U-Lyme - Witchwood
Thu 17/2 Hull - Wellington Club
Fri 18/2 Derby - Flowerpot
Sat 19/2 Devizes - Corn Exchange
Mon 21/2 Chelmsford - Army and Navy
Tue 22/2 Cheltenham - Axiom Centre
Wed 23/2 Sheffield - Boardwalk
Thu 24/2 Coventry - Planet
Fri 25/2 Norwich - Fat Pauly's
Sat 26/2 TBA
Sun 27/2 Brighton - Concorde
From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Feb 4 18:45:50 2000
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 23:45:50 +0000
Subject: OFF: Unlimbo review
In-Reply-To: <200002010244.VAA23444@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu>; from K
Henderson on Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 09:49:37PM -0500
Message-ID: <FRI.4.FEB.2000.234550.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 09:49:37PM -0500, K Henderson wrote:
> Somebody here was interested in my thoughts on this...went ahead and
> conjured up this tentative review FWIW...Keith H. (FAA)
>
> Unlimbo - Prahna Fish (1998) Polygraph (UK) Poly #03
Yup, that was me - many thanks! Looks like I was right to have it
on the list... Though I think you're a little sweeping in regard to
the Delerium bands; Kava Kava and Sons of Selina spring to mind as two who
could hardly be said to have gone for full-bore electronica, nor On
Trial. But anyway, yeah, music, good isn't it, yours,
Jon
ObCD: Porcupine Tree - _Stupid Dream_ (let's just not talk about this one,
eh?)
--
/______________________________________________________________________\
| Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge |
| (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk |
| =====================================================================|
|"Find the microwave and you shall find the bison!" Clare Boothby(1997)|
\______________________________________________________________________/
From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Feb 4 18:52:45 2000
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 23:52:45 +0000
Subject: OFF: Spirit Caravan tour
In-Reply-To: <200002010322.WAA02277@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu>; from K
Henderson on Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 10:27:38PM -0500
Message-ID: <FRI.4.FEB.2000.235245.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 10:27:38PM -0500, K Henderson wrote:
> Hi Folks...
>
> Haven't heard these folks personally, but I gather they're one of the better
> 'stoner rock' bands out there in space. A local store has a five-song CD-EP
> I've been eying lately, called 'Dreamwheel.' Suppose I should pick it up if
> I decide to head up to Cleveland to check 'em out. Anybody heard this
> thing? Should I track down Jug Fulla Sun instead?
Emphatically, buy them both. _Jug Fulla Sun_ was my best buy of
last year, and I expect no less of _Dreamwheel_ when I get it. They are
a bit more metal than stoner, but not so far as to lose listenability,
and Wino (ex-Thee Obsessed - apparently you have to say this in
reviews) plays guitar like a fiend, albeit a fiend who has known
suffering. His vocals are so like Lemmy's you can't ignore it but this man
has a lot of emotion he doesn't mind letting into his music. Some of their
songs simply rock - some of them are truly lovely. See them if you can, I
gather it puts them into context somewhat.Really - I think they're
great. Yours,
Jon
--
/______________________________________________________________________\
| Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge |
| (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk |
| =====================================================================|
|"Find the microwave and you shall find the bison!" Clare Boothby(1997)|
\______________________________________________________________________/
From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Feb 4 19:29:48 2000
From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 00:29:48 -0000
Subject: HW: Other Hawkwind list
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.002948.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Lennon <Hawkwinder at AOL.COM>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 2:18 AM
Subject: Re: HW: NZ tour track-list/onelist
> the other Hawkwind list was created as a Hawkwind only list.
> we discuss Hawkwind and related solo artists - that's it.
> so far many (nearly all) discussions have been unique to that list,
with
> almost no redundancy to this list.
> It was created in no way to compete with this list, just as an
alternative
> for any Hawkwind fans who wish to discuss only Hawkwind (and HW
family).
>
> to join the Hawkwind only list:
> http://www.onelist.com/community/Hawkwind
hmmm - I clicked here and found myself registering for some "One-List"
membership thing that only referred to Hawkwind on its very first page.
It kept telling me how FREE the membership of the One-List was and did
it so frequently that I began to get nervous and pulled out before
joining. Is joining the One-List an essential part of connecting to
this Hawkwind community. I don't suddenly want to find myself landed
with a pile of invoices charging me for use of this thing because
they've changed their policy and didn't tell anyone!
Yrs worriedly
jill
From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Fri Feb 4 19:54:45 2000
From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 19:54:45 EST
Subject: HW: Other Hawkwind list
Message-ID: <FRI.4.FEB.2000.195445.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Jill,
I'm not aware of the onelist being unlike any of the countless free on line
services.
Rule of thumb - if someone asks for your credit card number....get worried,
without it they have no way of asking for the payola.
bob
In a message dated 2/4/00 4:30:13 PM Pacific Standard Time,
jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes:
>
> hmmm - I clicked here and found myself registering for some "One-List"
> membership thing that only referred to Hawkwind on its very first page.
> It kept telling me how FREE the membership of the One-List was and did
> it so frequently that I began to get nervous and pulled out before
> joining. Is joining the One-List an essential part of connecting to
> this Hawkwind community. I don't suddenly want to find myself landed
> with a pile of invoices charging me for use of this thing because
> they've changed their policy and didn't tell anyone!
>
> Yrs worriedly
> jill
Hawkwind: Time & Space Website
http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html
From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Feb 4 17:11:38 2000
From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 22:11:38 -0000
Subject: NIK: did he really play with...
Message-ID: <FRI.4.FEB.2000.221138.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>In Nik's interview on hawkwind.com, someone asked which bands he'd enjoyed
playing with the most, and one he mentioned was indeed the Stranglers.
Might have to get this, it looks good!<
On the strength of the previous post I dug out Rattus Norvegicus IV (one of
the great album titles IMO) and gave in a dust and a spin. Superb. As I've
said before I kinda 'lost the faith' in Hawkwind and prog type stuff in the
eighties and the stranglers were a major reason for this. Listening to it
again I have no problem at all with the idea of Nik on stage and having a
great time with Jean Jaques and the boys.
Hawkwind to cover 'Down in the Sewer'? YES PLEASE!
T
From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Feb 4 20:24:59 2000
From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2000 17:24:59 -0800
Subject: HW: Other Hawkwind list
Message-ID: <FRI.4.FEB.2000.172459.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I'm a member (to varying degrees of participation) of several Onelist
lists/forums/whatever and I find the service to be completely benign. The
worst thing they do is stick ads for themselves (like a text .sig) at the
bottom of each message. I wouldn't worry about it ...
-Doug
ceres at sirius.com
On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 00:29:48 -0000, Jill Strobridge
<jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK> wrote:
>> to join the Hawkwind only list:
> http://www.onelist.com/community/Hawkwind
>
>hmmm - I clicked here and found myself registering for some "One-List"
>membership thing that only referred to Hawkwind on its very first page.
>It kept telling me how FREE the membership of the One-List was and did
>it so frequently that I began to get nervous and pulled out before
>joining. Is joining the One-List an essential part of connecting to
>this Hawkwind community. I don't suddenly want to find myself landed
>with a pile of invoices charging me for use of this thing because
>they've changed their policy and didn't tell anyone!
>
>Yrs worriedly
>jill
From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Feb 4 20:44:53 2000
From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 01:44:53 -0000
Subject: Nik: did he really play with...
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.014453.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Peter Hammill was there too. Nik was turning up at punk gigs all the time
then. I've got a photo of him and Jimmy Pursey (Sham 69) from 1980. Nik and
Lemmy seemed to have a close connection with the Damned too. John Ellis, now
of the Stranglers, used to play gtr with Peter Hammill. I'll have to dust
off me copy of The Don't Bring Harry ep - there is a live track on it at the
end of which I'm sure someone shouts Hawkwind. I used to love the Stranglers
but they went off the boil way before Hugh left. They're on Channel 4
tonight (Saturday).
J-J B the only punk/new-wave bassist of note.
Toodle-pip
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: M S Wright <m.s.wright at READING.AC.UK>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: 03 February 2000 18:36
Subject: Nik: did he really play with...
>Dear Hawkers,
>
>if you get to
>
>http://allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?UID=3:27:15|AM&p=amg&sql=B133255
>
>you will find a list of stuff that Nik is supposed to have been on. Most
>of it makes sense, but I am intrigued by Psychic TV's Pagan Day, is it any
>good? With Helios Creed and Del and Len Del Rio it might be.
>
>And the 1995 Strangler's (and friends) Live in concert. There is a long
>list of friends, some of which I might believe, like Wilko Johnson, Ian
>Dury, but Larry Wallis? Steve Hillage? Nik? Can someone explain what is
>going on. It is meant to have been released on Receiver.
>
>This site looks like it is setting itself up as the music equivalent to
>IMDB, does anyone know how reliable it is?
>
>Mike w
>
From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Feb 5 06:18:26 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 06:18:26 EST
Subject: HW: Other Hawkwind list/"rule of thumb"
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.061826.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/4/00 7:56:05 PM, Hawkwinder at AOL.COM writes:
<< Rule of thumb - >>
========
the origin of the phrase "rule of thumb" derives from the english (?) law
permitting a man to beat his wife w/a stick so long as it was no bigger
around than his thumb.
so just like i stopped eating veal when i found out what veal actually was, i
dinna use that phrase anymore...
another quart of coffee if'n you please...it's early yet -_-
"<>"
From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Sat Feb 5 06:29:30 2000
From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 05:29:30 -0600
Subject: HW: Other Hawkwind list/"rule of thumb"
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.052930.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> so just like i stopped eating veal when i found out what veal actually
was, i
> dinna use that phrase anymore...
What is veal?
From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Feb 5 06:31:21 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 06:31:21 EST
Subject: HW: Other Hawkwind list/"rule of thumb"
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.063121.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/5/00 6:29:09 AM, spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET writes:
<< What is veal? >>
========
if i understood correctly, veal isnt just young cattle, it's >infant< cattle.
ewwwwwwwww...
"<>"
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Feb 5 06:45:11 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 11:45:11 -0000
Subject: HW: Other Hawkwind list/"rule of thumb"
In-Reply-To: <003301bf6fcc$47b94940$0100007f@hawkwind>
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.114511.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> What is veal?
Delicious!
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham
From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Sat Feb 5 09:05:19 2000
From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 08:05:19 -0600
Subject: HW: Other Hawkwind list/"rule of thumb"
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.080519.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> << What is veal? >>
> ========
> if i understood correctly, veal isnt just young cattle, it's >infant<
cattle.
> ewwwwwwwww...
No, GOOD ! ! ! !
Hawkman
From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Feb 5 09:27:43 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 09:27:43 EST
Subject: HW: Other Hawkwind list/"rule of thumb"
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.092743.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/5/00 9:04:29 AM, spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET writes:
<< > if i understood correctly, veal isnt just young cattle, it's >infant<
cattle.
> ewwwwwwwww...
No, GOOD ! ! ! !
>>
===================
well, you and mr gilham are welcome to it, then
if you feel you must.
"<>"
but all the big fat cheeseburgers are MINE, thanks.
From flossbac at NLCI.COM Sat Feb 5 09:39:38 2000
From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 09:39:38 -0500
Subject: HW: Other Hawkwind list/"rule of thumb"
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.093938.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> > << What is veal? >>
> > ========
> > if i understood correctly, veal isnt just young cattle, it's >infant<
> cattle.
> > ewwwwwwwww...
I've pretty much gone vegan these days.... I was surprised how easy it
really is to completely stop eating meat and meat products.
John Majka
From Mariej at BIGWIG.NET Sat Feb 5 10:15:17 2000
From: Mariej at BIGWIG.NET (Marie Jenkinson)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 15:15:17 -0000
Subject: HW: Glastonbury debate
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.151517.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi all,
Check out the Hawkwind voting debate on the Glastonbury message board
http://www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/cgi-bin/bbs_forum.pl
Looks like Hawkwind topping the voting has caused a bit of a stir.
Cheers Marie
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From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Feb 5 12:39:13 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 12:39:13 EST
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.123913.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/5/00 9:40:42 AM, flossbac at NLCI.COM writes:
<<
I've pretty much gone vegan these days.... I was surprised how easy it
really is to completely stop eating meat and meat products.
John Majka
>>
===========
well, i'm not going =that = far (grin)
i do like zem killer cheeseburgers,
i tend to not eat steaks or other "slabs of meat"
and sausage in yr. red beans n' rice, y'know, gotta have it.
(flinging roommate's natalie merchant cd's out da window)
but the thought of those l'il baby cows,
ummm....... no.
thanx tho
"<>"
From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sat Feb 5 13:54:51 2000
From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 18:54:51 -0000
Subject: HW: pix - thanks to Mike Wright
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.185451.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sorry for the public posting but I lost my address book.
Mike,
Thanks for the pix. You can see them at http://www.zeitgeist-
scot.com in the Bitter Wind index.
Thanks again.
Stuart
From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 5 16:58:57 2000
From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 21:58:57 -0000
Subject: Q and Alan Davey
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.215857.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Alan's Motorhead tribute group is reviewed in this months Q. Good reviews too.
Dave
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From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Feb 4 19:00:53 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 00:00:53 +0000
Subject: HW: Vinyl Spotted
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.000053.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Nottingham's esteemed pre-owned store "Good Vibrations" has quite a stock
of HW vinyl right now
XISOS re-issue with ordinary sleeve
Stasis
MoTU (The Liberty/UA comp.) - at least 2 copies
AD vols 2&3
The Castle twofer of Levitation/Live '79
?2.50/?3.50 for singles ?5(?) for the double... the quality should be fair
(i've not had any stinkers from there) and there may be others - anybody
want me to snag anything for them? Mind you, I might hav AD2&3 for myself
Homicidal Terrahawk
ObVinyl: 801- Listen Now
From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sat Feb 5 16:43:33 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 21:43:33 +0000
Subject: HW: Other Hawkwind list
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000204172459.00949590@pop.sirius.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.214333.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 17:24 04/02/00 -0800, you wrote:
>I'm a member (to varying degrees of participation) of several Onelist
>lists/forums/whatever and I find the service to be completely benign. The
>worst thing they do is stick ads for themselves (like a text .sig) at the
>bottom of each message. I wouldn't worry about it ...
>
> -Doug
> ceres at sirius.com
Likewise - I'm on the "Man" & "Jackie Leven" lists, and no problems or spam
so far...
ChrisW(Homicidal Terrahawk)
>
>On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 00:29:48 -0000, Jill Strobridge
><jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK> wrote:
>>> to join the Hawkwind only list:
>> http://www.onelist.com/community/Hawkwind
>>
>>hmmm - I clicked here and found myself registering for some "One-List"
>>membership thing that only referred to Hawkwind on its very first page.
>>It kept telling me how FREE the membership of the One-List was and did
>>it so frequently that I began to get nervous and pulled out before
>>joining. Is joining the One-List an essential part of connecting to
>>this Hawkwind community. I don't suddenly want to find myself landed
>>with a pile of invoices charging me for use of this thing because
>>they've changed their policy and didn't tell anyone!
>>
>>Yrs worriedly
>>jill
>
>
>
From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Feb 4 19:09:20 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 00:09:20 +0000
Subject: BOC: Vinyl Spotted
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.000920.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Nottingham's esteemed pre-owned store "Good Vibrations" has some BOC vinyl
right now, to whit:
OYFOOYK (2 copies)
Spectres
They all seem in reasonable condition, so is anybody interested?
ChrisW/Homicidal Terrahawk
ObVinyl: Masters Of Reality (Blue Garden)
From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sat Feb 5 17:19:19 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 22:19:19 +0000
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
In-Reply-To: <4a.13742b3.25cdba41@aol.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.221919.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
A subject I've mulled over a lot, with all of its moral, political &
economic consequences, and came to the conclusion that if it came down to
me or the cow, the cow would definitely get it - even if I had to make a
flint knife to do it! But I don't go for veal, battery chickens/eggs or
foie-gras et al. - they are unnecessary IMHO
ChrisW
ObEmporium: Ultima Thule (Leicester)...A Tab In The Ocean (vinyl - new!),
Christmas At The Patti (Orig10") & InYour Area (Thank you Helen!)
At 12:39 05/02/00 EST, you wrote:
>In a message dated 2/5/00 9:40:42 AM, flossbac at NLCI.COM writes:
><<
>I've pretty much gone vegan these days.... I was surprised how easy it
>really is to completely stop eating meat and meat products.
>John Majka
> >>
>===========
>well, i'm not going =that = far (grin)
>i do like zem killer cheeseburgers,
>i tend to not eat steaks or other "slabs of meat"
>and sausage in yr. red beans n' rice, y'know, gotta have it.
>(flinging roommate's natalie merchant cd's out da window)
>but the thought of those l'il baby cows,
>ummm....... no.
>
>thanx tho
>"<>"
>
>
>
From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sat Feb 5 16:46:20 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 21:46:20 +0000
Subject: Nik: did he really play with...
In-Reply-To: <002601bf6f7a$99f7a460$113f883e@default>
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.214620.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 01:44 05/02/00 -0000, you wrote:
>Lemmy seemed to have a close connection with the Damned too.
He certainly did - he played on their re-make of The Sweet's "Ballroom Blitz"
Encyclopaedically Yours,
ChrisW
>J-J B the only punk/new-wave bassist of note.
No arguments from me on that note either
From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 5 18:03:29 2000
From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 23:03:29 -0000
Subject: Glasgow/Edinburgh
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.230329.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Anyone fancy a pint?
Dave
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From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Feb 5 20:35:17 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 20:35:17 -0500
Subject: HW: Glastonbury debate
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.203517.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Marie said...
>Hi all,
> Check out the Hawkwind voting debate on the Glastonbury message board
>http://www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/cgi-bin/bbs_forum.pl
>Looks like Hawkwind topping the voting has caused a bit of a stir.
Hmmmm...it seems I'm 'forbidden' to enter the site at the moment. A couple
days ago, it said the voting would be down for a few days for 'maintenance.'
Looks like they're overhauling the whole thing or something. So what did
they say?
I get the impression that the Glasters folks are taking this vote thing a
little too seriously (if indeed they're trying to change something with this
'maintenance' to prevent stuffing). Or maybe they're getting a lot of mail
from people who are themselves taking it too seriously? Any person with a
second grade education and even a hint of knowledge about the internet
would've known beforehand that this voting booth would produce nothing other
than a binomial distribution distinguishing the ballot-box stuffers from the
completely oblivious.
Keith H. (FAA)
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Feb 5 21:13:17 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 21:13:17 -0500
Subject: HW: Glastonbury debate
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.211317.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I said...
>Any person with a
>second grade education and even a hint of knowledge about the internet
>would've known beforehand that this voting booth would produce nothing other
>than a binomial distribution distinguishing the ballot-box stuffers from the
^^^^^^^^
>completely oblivious.
Uh, I meant 'bimodal.' That's what you get when you try to use big words! :)
Keith H. (FAA)
From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Sat Feb 5 21:14:10 2000
From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 20:14:10 -0600
Subject: HW: Other Hawkwind list/"rule of thumb"
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.201410.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> I've pretty much gone vegan these days.... I was surprised how easy it
> really is to completely stop eating meat and meat products.
> John Majka
Me too, really. I do Chicken and Turkey. I lived out in the country, just
recently, and have had close contact with the "roaming cheeseburgers"
as they feed off the scourage of the earth. They are filthy, stinky and
stupid
animals. And you should see the trail of FLIES that follow them ! !
They don't wipe their butt either, when they take a dump.
Now who's heading to McDonalds?
The Hawkman
From gumby at TELIS.ORG Sun Feb 6 00:35:34 2000
From: gumby at TELIS.ORG (Thomas Nelson)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 21:35:34 -0800
Subject: BOC: Aftershow appearances
Message-ID: <SAT.5.FEB.2000.213534.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi!
This the Gumbyman coming briefly out of the lurking territories.
I just picked up tickets to a BOC concert in Eureka, CA (at Club West).
I was wondering whether or not it was common for Eric, Allen, or Buck
to come out after the show (and if so, were is the best spot to find
them)? I would love to get Buck to sign Flat Out and the Ricky
Browning Concert Video.
The only other BOC concert I've been to was between the CN and
Imaginos albums. The friends I attended with weren't interested in
waiting around afterwards.
My wife wants to hear "I Love the Night." I told her not to get her
heart set on it. But hopefully they are still performing "Golden Age
of Leather."
Thanks folks!
Lovesign,
Thomas Nelson
The Gumbyman
"And have I not told you that what you mistake for madness is but
over-acuteness of the senses?"
"The Tell-tale Heart"
by Edgar Allan Poe
From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Feb 6 00:39:43 2000
From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 13:39:43 +0800
Subject: NZ/OZ Tracks
In-Reply-To: <010101bf6ecf$a7458520$056414ac@hal>
Message-ID: <SUN.6.FEB.2000.133943.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi there
For me, living in Perth, I also cannot go, simply because the airfare from
here to Sydney is around $500 Aust, which is only about a half and a bit to
go to the UK. For me personally, it is cheaper in the long run to go to the
UK, since I have relatives there to stay with, so I don't need to stay in
expensive accomodation.
William
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From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 5 23:35:49 2000
From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 04:35:49 -0000
Subject: HW: Glastonbury debate
Message-ID: <SUN.6.FEB.2000.043549.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>Looks like Hawkwind topping the voting has caused a bit of a stir
been there with some difficulty. Its nothing. One arsewipe making stupid
comments and half a dozen people saying its great. I felt a light flame was
in order. The message board does not appear to be well used at all. Agree
with Keith, the whole vote thing is stupid and I'm sure just put there to
spice up the site a little. Nevertheless WE'RE WINNING!!!!!
T
From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Feb 6 08:19:55 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 08:19:55 EST
Subject: Nik: did he really play with...
Message-ID: <SUN.6.FEB.2000.081955.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/5/00 5:21:41 PM, desdinova at EARTHLING.NET writes:
<< >J-J B the only punk/new-wave bassist of note. >>
==========
perhaps, but gaye advert sure was a looker...
hush ladies, it's just a passing compliment.
"<>"
From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Feb 6 09:26:29 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 09:26:29 EST
Subject: pardon me, this is only a test, DELETE
Message-ID: <SUN.6.FEB.2000.092629.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
been messin round w/my 'configuration manager'...
"<>"
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Feb 6 10:09:32 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 15:09:32 -0000
Subject: FW: HW: Hawkwind in Waihi & Auckland
Message-ID: <SUN.6.FEB.2000.150932.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham
In a message dated 5/2/2000 23:10:38, richard at cranium.co.nz writes:
<<Hawkwind at the Waihi Beach Hotel ..... Friday 4th Feb 2000
Hawkwind at the Powerstation/Auckland.. Saturday 5th Feb 2000
Well Hawkwind have played their first ever gig in the Southern Hermisphere
and despite some odd gremlins in the sound they played a blistering 2 hour
set.
We arrived at the Waihi Beach Hotel with a large sign outside that read "The
Legendary Hawkwind DIRICT from the UK". Sure as eggs not much has changed in
small town NZ.
The crowd was around 200 people and some had made the trip from as far south
as Wellington (6/8 hour road trip), Napier, Palmerston North, Hamilton and
Auckland. The setting was very laid back and the band mixed with fans in a
friendly and informal setting.
New bassist Steve Taylor admitted to some nerves before the concert as it
was his first ever live gig with the band but by the end of the night he had
a smile on his face. The band were called back for an encore where they
performed "Masters Of The Universe". I will attempt to post the complete
setlist at a later date.
The trip home was marred by a serious road accident in the gorge that is the
only way in and out of Waihi from the north and all traffic had to do a
u-turn and take the long way home which was about a 4 trip to Hamilton
instead the usual 2 hours.
The next night it was up to Auckland with another carload of us and this
time the venue was perfect. A big stage setup, lightshow, Kris Tait with her
fire eating and Hawkwind with an awesome 2 hour set that completely blew
everyone away. The sound was very loud and even the band came off stage
saying it was too loud but they were in fine form and the 400+ people at the
Powerstation were treated to a mix of old numbers and new material such as
"Love In Space" and "Freefall". A number of people made the comment that
they were very modern sounding and that is what is so timeless about
Hawkwind. The band were called back for an encore where they again did
"Masters Of The Universe"
The t-shirt and CD stand did good business after the event and their return
to the Powerstation on the 26th February should see a full house.
Next stop New Plymouth on the 10th Feb where they will also have the full
arsenal of the "Solar Fire Lightshow" which arrives in NZ tomorrow (Monday
7th Feb).
Richard
Cranium Music
Regards,
Richard
Cranium Music
mailto:richard at cranium.co.nz
http://www.cranium.co.nz
http://www.cranium-music.com>>
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From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Feb 6 11:31:48 2000
From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 00:31:48 +0800
Subject: Possibly interesting fan video?
Message-ID: <MON.7.FEB.2000.003148.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi there
Being a Dr Who fan, I found a web page which reviews fan-made Dr Who videos.
Among the videos listed was this item:-
Captain Calvert's Bedroom War by Tim Masters (1998) (approx 20 minutes)
[non-Who]
Synopsis: Blinded and shell shocked, captain Alex Calvert recuperates in his
sick bed re-enacting past battles on a chess board. But a visit from an old
friend Brock and his Australian fiancee Pam uncovers some old wounds. As
Brock strips away the bandages to reveal the captain's dark secret Pam
challenges Alex to a revealing game of chess.
The video is made by a group of Dr Who fans, who go by the name of Thames
Valley Time Lords, and have the following email address:
tvtl_rtc at hotmail.com
William
From chrisr at TIAC.NET Sun Feb 6 14:50:33 2000
From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 14:50:33 -0500
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
Message-ID: <SUN.6.FEB.2000.145033.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I have a vegetarian for many years and a vegan for 2.5. If you go out to
eat it is difficult to avoid animal products of any type. Even in the
health food stores, unless you carefuly read labels, you could end up with
egg whites, or honey.
Chris
DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote:
> In a message dated 2/5/00 9:40:42 AM, flossbac at NLCI.COM writes:
>
> <<
>
> I've pretty much gone vegan these days.... I was surprised how easy it
>
> really is to completely stop eating meat and meat products.
>
> John Majka
>
> >>
> ===========
> well, i'm not going =that = far (grin)
> i do like zem killer cheeseburgers,
> i tend to not eat steaks or other "slabs of meat"
>
> and sausage in yr. red beans n' rice, y'know, gotta have it.
>
> (flinging roommate's natalie merchant cd's out da window)
>
> but the thought of those l'il baby cows,
> ummm....... no.
>
> thanx tho
> "<>"
From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Feb 6 15:24:20 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 15:24:20 EST
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
Message-ID: <SUN.6.FEB.2000.152420.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/6/00 2:50:52 PM, chrisr at TIAC.NET writes:
<< or honey. >>
aw c'mon man, isnt that going a bit too far?
not HONEY?
====
from my unvegetarian perspective, it's an worthy aspiration to not eat meat;
stranger things have happened in my life than if i were to stop eating meat.
it would help if what meat i eat didnt taste good, though.
but please, tell me why i shouldnt think not eating honey, as if it was veal
(lol) or some other meat, is kinda _wack?
"<>"
From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Sun Feb 6 18:35:33 2000
From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 18:35:33 EST
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
Message-ID: <SUN.6.FEB.2000.183533.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
my better half is a vegan for digestive disorder-related reasons; but she is
extremely anti-animal experimentation. for this reason she once made a
donation to PETA and was susequently placed on a number of related mailing
lists. we also get PETA's newsletter regularly. flipping thru it one day,
marveling at some of the photos included (very effective shock-value pics),
i saw an article entitiled "humane ways to deal with household pests". long
story short: peaceful co-existence is urged. learn to live with them if
they're already in your home; if not, help them 'avoid' your home. lots of
helpful tips are included on living in harmony with mice/rats,
squirrels/raccoons, and ants/cockroaches.
i'm not making this up.
a few months previous, in mid-summer, we had an exterminator come in to rid
us of big, black carpenter ants that we were later told had nested in a
bathroom wall and were eating our house. they were always about in the
kitchen and bath and getting into the food, crawling on us if we weren't
careful. it cost us 250$ and we had to vacate the house for 24 hrs. i showed
the article to my wife and said 'i think animal experimentation is wrong and
all that, but don't you think this is going a bit far?'
a tense moment passed. finally she said 'yes. that's ridiculous.'
*PHEW*!!!!
rmayo
From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Feb 6 17:43:00 2000
From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 22:43:00 -0000
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
Message-ID: <SUN.6.FEB.2000.224300.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
going way off topic here......
I've always thought there should be degrees of veggieism, respected by
veggies. The problem for us burger eaters is that our veggie friends lump
anyone who eats honey or veal into the same boat. This is ridiculous and
doesnt help the cause. Utter communism (all being precisely equal) is
discredited and similarly the concept of NIL exploitation of animals is
impractically extreme for a world population. Fish farms may be bad, but
fur farms are worse. I consider that eating mammals is close to
cannibalism, but not birds or fish. etc etc.
Wow - fancy expressing those views on a HW mail group - weird!
T
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Feb 6 22:44:48 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 22:44:48 -0500
Subject: OFF: GONG news
Message-ID: <SUN.6.FEB.2000.224448.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi Folks...FYI Keith H. (FAA)
NEW GONG CD (Daevid Allen, Gilli Smyth, Didier Malherbe, Mike Howlett, Theo
Travis and Chris Taylor)
ZERO TO INFINITY-Radio Gnome Invisible Part 5 One Eyed Salmon SMACD824
Release date Monday 28th Feb.
Apparently, some tracks can be heard at http://www.snappermusic.com/gong
GONG...UK CD LAUNCH PARTY/GIG
Sat 1st or Sat 7th (sic) April UK. London, Subterrania.
Plans are afoot for a special launch party gig for the new Gong CD. Daevid
Allen, Gilli Smyth, Didier Malherbe, Mike Howlett, Theo Travis and Chris
Taylor will be in attendance and the inside of the inter-dimensional Flying
Teapot will be decorated by Visual Bliss. It will be a very special
invitation-only Netcast gig. Details of how to obtain tickets are still
being finalised, but we'll let you know all about it in good time.
GONG...UK APRIL TOUR
The line up is Daevid Allen, Gilli Smyth, Mike Howlett, Theo Travis and
Chris Taylor, with Didier Malherbe at a couple of the gigs. There may well
be some other surprise guests at a few of the gigs as well. Either trusted
Switch Doctors David Id or Venux de Luxe will be at the controls to ensure
total open communication from the Planet Gong is established and maintained.
Thur 13th April UK. Leeds, Irish Centre.
Fri 14th April UK. Coventry, Colosseum.
Sat 15th April UK. Manchester, University. tbc
Thur 20th April UK. Southampton, The Brook.
Fri 21st April UK. Reading, The Allycat. tbc
Sat 22nd April UK. Bristol, Fleece & Firkin.
Sun 23rd April UK. Bristol, Fleece & Firkin. 2nd show tbc
Thur 27th April UK. Exeter, Phoenix Arts Centre.
Sun 7th May UK. London, Hammersmith Palais with special guests. tbc
GONG...NORWAY
For the first time since 1974 Gong in Norway.
Sat 29th April Norway. Bergen, The Garage. (+47) 552 150 60
GONG...FRANCE
Gnomes For May at the scene of many a celebratory Gong gig, Le Bataclan in
Paris. With Daevid Allen, Gilli Smyth, Mike Howlett, Theo Travis, Chris
Taylor and Didier Malherbe.
From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Feb 6 23:02:50 2000
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:02:50 -0500
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
In-Reply-To: <000801efa6c1$c8f0d4e0$36730918@cx904100-a.chnd1.az.home.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.6.FEB.2000.230250.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Fri, 6 Feb 2043, Kevin Sommers wrote:
=> At the risk of sounding ignorant, which actually I am of all things vegan,
=> why not honey? How is this different from eating a plant which was
=> pollinated by bees?
Well, as I understand it, vegans eschew honey because they disavow the
exploitation of bees---hives of which are left to die off/starve to
death at the end of their productive season.
Don't quote me on it, though.
Cheers,
Paul.
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..."
--- James Marshall Hendrix
From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Feb 6 23:39:32 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2000 23:39:32 EST
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
Message-ID: <SUN.6.FEB.2000.233932.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/6/00 5:01:45 PM, novadrive at HOME.COM writes:
<< How is this different from eating a plant which was
pollinated by bees?
>>
=========
well, shoot, y'know, maybe this century those zany food engineers will
develop a way for us all to eat dirt, and like it. then it'd be a moot point,
eh?
lolololol
"<>"
From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Feb 7 03:22:48 2000
From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 08:22:48 -0000
Subject: OFF: Unlimbo review
Message-ID: <MON.7.FEB.2000.082248.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Is that Kava Kava from Huddersfield? Or a different one?
Cheers,
Rich.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathan Jarrett <jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: OFF: Unlimbo review
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2000 at 09:49:37PM -0500, K Henderson wrote:
> > Somebody here was interested in my thoughts on this...went ahead and
> > conjured up this tentative review FWIW...Keith H. (FAA)
> >
> > Unlimbo - Prahna Fish (1998) Polygraph (UK) Poly #03
>
> Yup, that was me - many thanks! Looks like I was right to have it
> on the list... Though I think you're a little sweeping in regard to
> the Delerium bands; Kava Kava and Sons of Selina spring to mind as two who
> could hardly be said to have gone for full-bore electronica, nor On
> Trial. But anyway, yeah, music, good isn't it, yours,
> Jon
>
> ObCD: Porcupine Tree - _Stupid Dream_ (let's just not talk about this one,
> eh?)
> --
> /______________________________________________________________________\
> | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge |
> | (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk |
> | =====================================================================|
> |"Find the microwave and you shall find the bison!" Clare Boothby(1997)|
> \______________________________________________________________________/
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From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Feb 7 03:25:22 2000
From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 08:25:22 -0000
Subject: HW: Other Hawkwind list/"rule of thumb"
Message-ID: <MON.7.FEB.2000.082522.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
It's a little fluffy animal, similar to a rabbit. It makes pitiful
squealing noises when caught, but curiously, it emits a long drawn out sound
of pleasure when you boil it alive.
Cheers,
Rich.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephan Spiegel <spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: HW: Other Hawkwind list/"rule of thumb"
> > so just like i stopped eating veal when i found out what veal actually
> was, i
> > dinna use that phrase anymore...
>
> What is veal?
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From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Feb 7 03:29:17 2000
From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 08:29:17 -0000
Subject: Glasgow/Edinburgh
Message-ID: <MON.7.FEB.2000.082917.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
What - right now?
Hang on, I might make last orders!
;-)
Cheers,
Rich.
----- Original Message -----
From: david hall <dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2000 11:03 PM
Subject: Glasgow/Edinburgh
Anyone fancy a pint?
Dave
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From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Feb 7 06:49:47 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 07:49:47 EDT
Subject: BOC: Aftershow appearances
In-Reply-To: <v04220801b4c2b6a45629@[209.209.18.196]>
Message-ID: <MON.7.FEB.2000.074947.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 5 Feb 00, at 21:35, Thomas Nelson wrote:
> Hi!
>
> This the Gumbyman coming briefly out of the lurking territories.
>
> I just picked up tickets to a BOC concert in Eureka, CA (at Club
> West).
>
> I was wondering whether or not it was common for Eric, Allen, or Buck
> to come out after the show (and if so, were is the best spot to find
> them)? I would love to get Buck to sign Flat Out and the Ricky
> Browning Concert Video.
>
Most of the shows I've been to lately, the guys come out and sign
stuff about a half-hour after the show ends. Unless they're pressed
for time, they will talk and sign stuff no problem...
theo
From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Feb 7 08:18:20 2000
From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 13:18:20 +0000
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
In-Reply-To: <000801efa6c1$c8f0d4e0$36730918@cx904100-a.chnd1.az.home.com>
Message-ID: <MON.7.FEB.2000.131820.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In message <000801efa6c1$c8f0d4e0$36730918 at cx904100-a.chnd1.az.home.com>
, Kevin Sommers <novadrive at HOME.COM> writes
>At the risk of sounding ignorant, which actually I am of all things vegan,
>why not honey? How is this different from eating a plant which was
>pollinated by bees?
because it's some baby bee's dinner not yours. And it's bee spit.
It's the same as drinking milk, really.
not that I'm a veg myself, I'm a kebabarian,
and can only eat large doners, extra chilli sauce, please mister.
--
Jon
From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Feb 7 09:13:57 2000
From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:13:57 -0000
Subject: Whatever happened to: Andy Anderson?
Message-ID: <MON.7.FEB.2000.141357.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
History:
Steve Hillage
Nik Turner's Sphynx
ICU
Hawkwind
The Cure
Brilliant?
Then what???
Dave
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From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Feb 7 09:42:09 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 14:42:09 -0000
Subject: BOC: Meltzer/Aesthetics of Rock
Message-ID: <MON.7.FEB.2000.144209.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Looking in "Helter Skelter" for Elvis books this lunchtime, ok, saw
Meltzer's, ahem, seminal tome next to where Greil Marcus' _Mystery Train_
should have been... so obviously I picked it up. Pretty unreadable, but
you can dip into it! Many refs to "Memphis Sam" Pearlman of _Crawdaddy_...
also a brief mention of Jimmy Dean's "P.T. 109," which made me wonder
whether it was in any way an inspiration for "M.E. 262"...
Oh yeah, I did get Marcus' _Dead Elvis_ (and I already had Mick Farren's
_Hitchhiker's Guide to Elvis_).
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham
From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Mon Feb 7 14:00:07 2000
From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 20:00:07 +0100
Subject: NT: Nik Turner & Pseudo Sun
Message-ID: <MON.7.FEB.2000.200007.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Latest news,just confirmed!
Nik Turner & Pseudo Sun Swedish Tour 2000.
March 9th Pub Anchor,Stockholm
March 11th Rockland,Sala
March 12th Fredmans,Uppsala
Andreas
From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Mon Feb 7 20:54:53 2000
From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:54:53 +1100
Subject: HW: Report from NZ
Message-ID: <TUE.8.FEB.2000.125453.1100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi Folks,
Just got this from Shane Palmer in NZ .....
------- Forwarded message follows -------
From: <suppressed>
To: <sonique at sonique.net>
Subject: WOWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date sent: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 11:51:45 +1300
Hi Paul,
Far Out!!! I'm still in a state of sonic shock after this absolutely
incredible weekend! I was really looking forward to seeing Hawkwind live,
but I didn't realise it would be that great! The band absolutely blew me
away with their sonic attack.
The Waihi Beach show was a great introduction to the live Hawks experience.
The hotel venue was quite small (probably only no more than 10 metres from
stage to back of room), although it filled up well with everyone in there,
and the stage was raised up only at about knee-high level, so it was a
really intimate kinda atmosphere- where I was at the front I was standing
only about 1 1/2 to 2 metres away from Jerry and Steve most of the night!!
Amazing, especially when they're looking right at you! The whole band was
well on form, with Dave joking around a lot, especially with Harvey- those
two make a great pair, obviously really good friends. Harvey was great, with
lots of poetic improvisation thrown in all over the place, especially when
needing to fill in time!! I noticed there were a few technical problems (not
surprising, considering this was their first show in the Southern
Hemisphere), I'm not too sure what they were, but this didn't really matter
as the band covered it up well and provided us with some great moments of
improvisation!! The set list was a wonderful selection, mostly old classics,
many of which I beleive haven't been played live for many years. I also
noticed that they extended many of these songs with long instrumentals/jams
in the middle in a way I have never heard on any of my live albums before-
this was really amazing, and although some of these songs have been around
for years the band still has a way of making them sound fresh.
Because of the size of the venue at Waihi Beach, the light/film show was
unable to be fully utilized, with the film screens to the sides of the
audience rather than behind the band. Also, the ceiling was too low, so Kris
couldn't do here fire-eating/blowing perfomances for fear of burning down
the hotel! These things were rectified in Auckland on Saturday night
however. The Powerstation is a much bigger venue that is actually made to
hold international acts (Steve Vai performed there the weekend beforehand).
The band had a lot more space on stage- at Waihi Beach they were quite close
together due to space restrictions. The light show was in full-flight,
absolutely superb, it blew everyone away, with films and slides running
constantly behind the band. The amazing thing is that this isn't even the
Solar Fire lightshow- Jim doesn't arrive until today, in time for the New
Plymouth and Wellington shows- so I'm looking forward to seeing that. Kris
came out several times with her fire-sticks, and there were many people
there who I'm sure weren't expecting that and who were astounded when she
blew her fire balls!! I was near the front of the stage again so when she
did this the flames were above my head and I could really feel that heat!!
Incredible!
Well, the awesome thing for me now is that tomorrow i am off to New Plymouth
for the show there on Thursday, and then down to Wellington for the two
nights there over the weekend. And now that i now what the band is like
live, I'm looking forward to this even more!
My advice to you (although I know you don't need it) is that YOU MUST SEE
THESE GUYS LIVE!!! I've received your latest newsletter and found out that
you are definately going to a show, so I am very pleased for you!
If you're interested, I'll give you more details about the shows here when I
get back from Wellington, although this won't be until Sunday or Monday (its
just that I dont have much time at the moment!). I'd give you the set-list
now, but I'm not sure whether you'd rather be surprised when you see them
yourself. If you are going to send out another newsletter to your e-mail
lists, you can tell everyone that your source in NZ says this is an
experience not to be missed! You can pass on what I've said above if you
wish, or post it on the Ozhawks list.
Although I'll be away until Sunday, please fell free to reply to me and
leave your message here, and I will reply again as soon as i get back.
I am collecting various memorabilia of the tour, i.e. newspaper articles and
radio interviews, so if you are interested just let me know and I'll send
some stuff to you. Richard (Stockwell) and i are hoping to get an interview
with the band, so I'll let you know how we get on and I'll send you a copy
of that too if we're successful!
All the best for now, and I hope to hear from you soon. All I have to say
now is that you and all the other Australian fans have got a lot to look
forward to!!
Regards,
Shane.
From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Feb 8 08:55:02 2000
From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:55:02 -0000
Subject: London gigs
Message-ID: <TUE.8.FEB.2000.135502.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Anything of Hawkwind related interest coming up in London
Huw LL
Terry Ollis
Nik
Reunion?
Dave
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From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Feb 8 11:58:15 2000
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:58:15 +0000
Subject: OFF: DarXtar, Bedouin and record labels; + PT news
Message-ID: <TUE.8.FEB.2000.165815.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Dear All,
recently acquired _DarXtar_ at long last, which brings
me within one track of as-close-to-DarXtar-Kompleteness-as-I-can-be-till-
someone-reprints-_Darker_, and it has set me wondering. I take it there is
still no news on a release of _Tombola_? Still no label that meets the
Commander's wants? What is he after that is so hard to find in the
industry?
And the same goes for Bedouin. The material is there, it's just
failure to close a deal (as I understand it) that's stopping it being
released. Again, what is the problem? I remember a while back we had a
little discussion about how Man's Ruin would probably snap up the chance
to release such a thing, and they seem to be a reputable company, and
furthermore have the distribution (although I reckon if it's in my local
HMV the distribution's adequate - not that I'll buy it there of course but
as a measure of the album's footprint... ).
You see, I have a morbid fear that these delays are going to kill
the bands. Though DarXtar and Bedouin both have been looking for deals to
record the stuff they have written for as long as it would take to come up
with a fresh disc's worth of material, I'll bet they haven't. And the
longer they're out of the action as far as the shopfront goes the more
likely it seems to me they'll finally stop completely. It seems to me that
the companies are out there with whom an acceptable compromise could be
reached; why do the bands disagree? Man's Ruin would probably do a lovely
job by Bedouin, and Delerium could handle DarXtar judging by how they've
done with The Spacious Mind and On Trial. Though, that said, since the
last little glit of albums, Deleriuym Records have been awful quiet - are
they going through a bad patch or something?
The reason I ask that anyway, is because amidst all this
space-rock inactivity, I have just received word that PT's next album is
in the final mixes stage! I mean, that's quicker than a Fall album! Full
message included below with names changed in headers to protect the
paranoid (the original source is a msuic journo):
On Tue, 8 Feb 2000, The Bishop of Dulwich wrote:
>
> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 12:35:29 +0000
> From: Dulwich, Bishop <dulwichb at cofe.co.uk>
> To: jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk
> Subject: Fwd: That was quick work
>
> Read this!
>
> [ Part 2: "Included Message" ]
>
> Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:31:57 +0000
> From: Nick the Nick <drclaw at secret.hq.org>
> To: His Grace Bish <dulwichb at cofe.co.uk>
> Subject: That was quick work
>
> Read and tremble.
>
> THE NEW ALBUM
> The new Porcupine Tree studio album, now titled "Lightbulb Sun", is nearing
> completion. The provisional track listing is as follows :
>
> 1. Lightbulb Sun (5.30)
> 2. How is Your Life Today ? (2.55)
> 3. Four Chords That Made a Million (3.36)
> 4. Shesmovedon (5.14)
> 5. Last Chance to Evacuate Planet Earth Before It Is Recycled (4.49)
> 6. The Rest Will Flow (3.18)
> 7. Hatesong (8.28)
> 8. Where We Would Be (4.14)
> 9. Russia On Ice (13.11)
> 10. Feel So Low (5.25)
>
> All the tracks are linked in to a continuous flow of music and with
> the exception of "Four Chords..." share the same lyrical theme.
> Hatesong was written by SW and Colin Edwin, all other songs are by SW
> with string arrangements on 3 tracks by Dave Gregory. Other titles
> have been recorded and will appear as additional tracks on singles.
>
> Final overdubs are now being added with mixing due to start in February.
--
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| jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge |
| 01223 741219 CB4 1JL |
|----------------------------------------------------------|
| "Wilhelm Reich died for your sins" (ST37) |
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From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Feb 8 13:00:50 2000
From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 18:00:50 -0000
Subject: OFF: test
Message-ID: <TUE.8.FEB.2000.180050.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Just a test
Dave
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From colum26 at YAHOO.COM Tue Feb 8 14:04:08 2000
From: colum26 at YAHOO.COM (=?iso-8859-1?q?colm=20mcwilliams?=)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 11:04:08 -0800
Subject: HW: NZ tour track-list
Message-ID: <TUE.8.FEB.2000.110408.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
It seems that cdparadise are advertising weird tapes
107 and 106 on CD for
?10.49 each. But when you click on the link you are
informed that:
Not available yet.
If you order this title we will ship it to you as soon
as it becomes
available.
damn.....
colm
and what the hell are these?
Collectors Series 2; Hawkwind CD ?12.49 48Hrs
Collectors Series 4; Hawkwind CD ?10.49 48Hrs
Collectors Series 5; Hawkwind CD ?10.49 48Hrs
Collectors Series 6; Hawkwind CD ?10.49 48Hrs
Collectors Series 7; Hawkwind CD ?10.49 48Hrs
Collectors Series One; Hawkwind CD ?12.49 48Hrs
"Some days it don't pay to get outta bed."
- Foghorn Leghorn
icq #62753543
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From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Tue Feb 8 16:34:12 2000
From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 15:34:12 -0600
Subject: HW: Porkyoupine Tree
Message-ID: <TUE.8.FEB.2000.153412.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi, Folks,
Would the person who was wanting to trade some
Porcupine Tree CD's for HW CD's, Please get in
touch with me....I can't remember who it was. Thanks,
Stephan.
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From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Feb 9 04:43:37 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 09:43:37 -0000
Subject: OFF: Moorcock spoken word gig
Message-ID: <WED.9.FEB.2000.094337.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Next Tuesday at the Conway Hall London WC1, with Nick Cave, Ken Campbell and
others. Apparently launching a series of spoken word recordings from the
above mentioned. Only a fiver.
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham
From micci at SCI.FI Wed Feb 9 10:10:32 2000
From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:10:32 +0200
Subject: off
Message-ID: <WED.9.FEB.2000.171032.0200.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Anybody out there?
Miikka Wagner
email: micci at sci.fi
http://www.sci.fi/~micci
From flossbac at NLCI.COM Wed Feb 9 15:27:08 2000
From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 15:27:08 -0500
Subject: Is the list down?
Message-ID: <WED.9.FEB.2000.152708.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I haven't received anything from BOC-L for days... is there a problem with
the server or something....?
John Majka
flossbac at nlci.com
From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 9 17:03:49 2000
From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 17:03:49 EST
Subject: Fwd:
Message-ID: <WED.9.FEB.2000.170349.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/9/00 2:54:28 PM Eastern Standard Time,
MMcLachl at exchangegateway.tmp.com writes:
<< Just found out-Lonsome Dave from Foghat died on February 7
Slow Ride, take it easy
Murphy
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From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Wed Feb 9 19:50:31 2000
From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2000 19:50:31 -0500
Subject: testing tensely
In-Reply-To: <000801efa6c1$c8f0d4e0$36730918@cx904100-a.chnd1.az.home.co m>
Message-ID: <WED.9.FEB.2000.195031.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Testing? I havent received any list mail for a while.
From des at SUPERLINK.NET Thu Feb 10 00:03:57 2000
From: des at SUPERLINK.NET (E F)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 00:03:57 -0500
Subject: Test
Message-ID: <THU.10.FEB.2000.000357.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
No mail in 3 days???
--
The fool who persists in his follies
will become wise. --William Blake
From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Feb 10 16:38:58 2000
From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:38:58 EST
Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 2/5/00
Message-ID: <THU.10.FEB.2000.163858.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
"SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR.
For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing
list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck
WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS FOR WINAMP :
1) Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp
Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to
hear KUCR.
http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml
After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest
at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your
computer.
After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program
(Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp
can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up
on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also
on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the
lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then
click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just
clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the
following http://www.kucr.org:8000
Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp
and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up,
double click again to reconnect.
2/5/00
1.Spacehead--Mechanoid Dream/Hail the Messiahs/Dark Star (In Space We
Trust... '95-'98; thanks to Andy G)
2.Spirits Burning--Smart Messages in the Sand (New Worlds by Design)
3.Hawkwind--D-rider/Web Weaver (Hall of the Mountain Grill)
4.Escapade--Prologue (Inner Translucence)
5.Guru Guru--UFO (UFO, Space Box comp)
6.Mushroom--A Song of Remembrance for a time when Wife-swapping was
considered Politically Correct (Analog Hi-fi Surprise)
7.Bondage Fruit--Screen Game (acoustic) (IV)
8.Word of Life--When I Was in Space.../Way to Go (...Dust)
9.Korai Orom--Track #3 (??)
10.Ozric Tentacles--Shaping the Pelm (Pungent Effulgent)
11.C3PO vs. H2O--Positive Reverberation (Amberdelic Space 2 comp)
12.Orb--Supernova at the End of the Universe (Adventures Beyond the
Ultraworld)
13.Gong--I've Been Stoned Before Mr. Lonshanks O Mother/Radio Gnome Invisible
(Est Mort)
14.Krel--I Can See Starz/So Long (Ad Astra)
15.Darxtar--Dark Daze (Daybreak)
16.Escapade--Destination Somewhere (Inner Translucence)
17.Amanita--Sound and Density (Serenity)
18.Hawkwind--Acid Test/Damnation Alley (Palace Springs)
19.Loop Guru--Olwana (Amberdelic Space 2 comp)
Thanks, Chuck
From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Feb 10 16:10:11 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:10:11 -0500
Subject: We're back!!!
Message-ID: <THU.10.FEB.2000.161011.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
so, whawhassit? hackers? swann? Doug Smiff? RODS?
US Customs officials? The Penny Pants? Theo delivering
mysterious tapes in the desert? Critical mass of BOC
and HW compilations?
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Feb 10 16:12:58 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:12:58 -0500
Subject: HW: Other Hawkwind list/"rule of thumb"
Message-ID: <THU.10.FEB.2000.161258.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>It's a little fluffy animal, similar to a rabbit. It makes pitiful
>squealing noises when caught, but curiously, it emits a long drawn out sound
>of pleasure when you boil it alive.
That's it. I'm switching to... Spoo!
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Feb 10 17:58:18 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:58:18 -0000
Subject: BOC: Meltzer/Aesthetics of Rock
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLNNCENLINIMONNCJAEIMCCAA.Andy.Gilham@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <THU.10.FEB.2000.225818.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
AND a photo of the Soft White Underbelly, and a footnote (it's mostly
footnotes) about the drummer with the Soft White Underbelly taking LSD while
listening to the Stones the night before his draft medical...
Also noted "The Loves of Ondine" (Warhol) and Lou Christie's "Two Faces Have
I" as having possible resonances...
-- Andy
ObCD: Elvis Presley - _Elvis Presley_
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Feb 10 17:58:16 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:58:16 -0000
Subject: HW: NZ tour track-list
In-Reply-To: <20000208190408.17404.rocketmail@web220.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <THU.10.FEB.2000.225816.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> and what the hell are these?
> Collectors Series 2; Hawkwind CD ?12.49 48Hrs
> Collectors Series 4; Hawkwind CD ?10.49 48Hrs
> Collectors Series 5; Hawkwind CD ?10.49 48Hrs
> Collectors Series 6; Hawkwind CD ?10.49 48Hrs
> Collectors Series 7; Hawkwind CD ?10.49 48Hrs
> Collectors Series One; Hawkwind CD ?12.49 48Hrs
>
>
I think one of them was the Greasy Truckers one (now unlikely to see the
light of day from what I gather) and the others are the Weird tapes. But I
might be wrong.
CD Paradise are unreliable with those "48hrs" things...
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Feb 10 18:28:15 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:28:15 EST
Subject: Fwd:
Message-ID: <THU.10.FEB.2000.182815.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/10/00 4:57:36 PM, RMayo19761 at AOL.COM writes:
<<
<< Just found out-Lonsome Dave from Foghat died on February 7
Slow Ride, take it easy
>>
=============
R.I.P. and such.
foghat came about when 2 or 3 (?) guys, incl. dave peverett, left savoy
brown after their "hellbound train lp" (maybe that band's best, if you go for
that).
Foghat was an easy band to be scorned by folx listening to punk rock 45's in
the middle '70s, but i suppose they were analogous to a band like, um, status
quo. folx came to get rocked and sho 'nuff yes they did.
and try not to slip on the vomit on the floor as you leave.
HI-YO SILVER!
Lonesome Dave
-_-
"<>"
From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Feb 10 18:43:02 2000
From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 18:43:02 -0500
Subject: OFF: Foghat/Savoy Brown
In-Reply-To: <4.11317f0.25d4a38f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <THU.10.FEB.2000.184302.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Daslud wrote:
>In a message dated 2/10/00 4:57:36 PM, RMayo19761 at AOL.COM writes:
>
><<
><< Just found out-Lonsome Dave from Foghat died on February 7
> Slow Ride, take it easy
> >>
>
>=============
>R.I.P. and such.
>
>foghat came about when 2 or 3 (?) guys, incl. dave peverett, left savoy
>brown after their "hellbound train lp" (maybe that band's best, if you go for
>that).
>Foghat was an easy band to be scorned by folx listening to punk rock 45's in
>the middle '70s, but i suppose they were analogous to a band like, um, status
>quo. folx came to get rocked and sho 'nuff yes they did.
>and try not to slip on the vomit on the floor as you leave.
Actually, Foghat was formed just before Savoy Brown's Street Corner Talking
album. (The one before Hellbound Train.) Dave Walker was the vocalist on
SCT and HT. I agree that HT is a great album though. And I think Savoy
Brown is an extremely underrated band in general. But maybe I just want to
think that because Kim Simmonds lives 10min from my hometown. ;-)
Brian
>HI-YO SILVER!
>Lonesome Dave
>-_-
>
>
>"<>"
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 10 20:32:35 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:32:35 -0500
Subject: OFF: DarXtar, Bedouin and record labels; + PT news
Message-ID: <THU.10.FEB.2000.203235.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Jon asked,
> recently acquired _DarXtar_ at long last, which brings
>me within one track of as-close-to-DarXtar-Kompleteness-as-I-can-be-till-
>someone-reprints-_Darker_, and it has set me wondering. I take it there is
>still no news on a release of _Tombola_? Still no label that meets the
>Commander's wants? What is he after that is so hard to find in the
>industry?
Hey, Scott...you ever hear from the Commander??
> You see, I have a morbid fear that these delays are going to kill
>the bands. Though DarXtar and Bedouin both have been looking for deals to
>record the stuff they have written for as long as it would take to come up
>with a fresh disc's worth of material, I'll bet they haven't. And the
>longer they're out of the action as far as the shopfront goes the more
>likely it seems to me they'll finally stop completely. It seems to me that
>the companies are out there with whom an acceptable compromise could be
>reached; why do the bands disagree? Man's Ruin would probably do a lovely
>job by Bedouin, and Delerium could handle DarXtar judging by how they've
>done with The Spacious Mind and On Trial.
Well, I think "Tombola" *is* supposed to come out on Delerium, ain't that right?
And yes, I think that's a good move for all parties, as I had been getting
to feel like Delerium was moving away from psychedelia into electronica
(well, many of their bands were doing that on their own), but now with these
three, hopefully good times will continue for them. And us.
As far as Bedouin goes, how 'bout 'Rise Above' who I consider to be sort of
the Man's Ruin of the UK? Also, they have a relationship with Relapse (is
it?) over here in the states, and so we sometimes get US domestic releases
of Rise Above stuff. [I think I just saw that the Quill CD (a German stoner
group I believe), was just released here in the states...is that via the
same pathway?]
> The reason I ask that anyway, is because amidst all this
>space-rock inactivity, I have just received word that PT's next album is
>in the final mixes stage! I mean, that's quicker than a Fall album! Full
>message included below with names changed in headers to protect the
>paranoid (the original source is a msuic journo):
Yeah, must be something about Snapper. Gong's new album was also done in
amazing time, considering the 'maturity' of that lot. It (Zero to Infinity)
should be out this month on Snapper's spinoff label 'One Eyed Salmon' or
whatever. Have the Ozrics split from Snapper? Somebody told me that, but
I'm not sure that's true. The Waterfall Cities was issued here in the US on
some obscure NY label, but I figured that was some licencing deal with
Snapper back in the UK. Floating Seeds was on Snapper at least.
I pretty much echo your sentiments Jon...I wish there was a simple answer.
I'm sure it's tiresome for these artists to continually fight against
indifference, and I too wonder if they will again start to one-by-one drop
off the map, until we reach 1978 all over again. :( Of course, the
internet will always feed the *really* indie outfits who sell their wares
from their own sites and labels, so as long as they have the gear to
self-produce quality music, we'll always have something to hear. And I
think 1999 was a remarkably good year.
Keith H. (FAA)
From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Thu Feb 10 23:25:52 2000
From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 23:25:52 EST
Subject: OFF: lonesome no more....
Message-ID: <THU.10.FEB.2000.232552.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
just a little bemused over the fact that foghat have become the punchline to
every '70's-culture joke ever told. mayhap the silly moniker? 'energized',
'fool for the city', and 'foghat live' are among the first 10-or-so rock
records i ever heard and for that they've always been close to my heart.
since then i've grown older and wiser (and more jaded and cynical! yeehah!)
but still enjoy the occaisional spin. shit-hot slide geetar! check out their
2 contributions to the rattlesnake guitar peter green comp.
anyway, i was looking for the word 'liver' in his obit, but found 'kidney'
and 'cancer' instead. so maybe he didn't die of drink like rory g. did; but
foghat were still a working band, so he did pass a'rockin'.
a friend in hi-school used to pronounce it 'lonesome dave pervert...
sorry!
rmayo
From SHLL at NOVO.DK Fri Feb 11 05:17:45 2000
From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller))
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:17:45 +0100
Subject: Off:Darxtar etc
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.111745.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hej,
I did speak with S?ren from Darxtar and the new CD Tombola will be
released on Delerium hopefully by May. He did not actually know as Delerium
has had everything for 6 months and it is still not out. They are very slow.
He hoped they could play some concerts this summer. The band has
been totally inactive for the last half year.
As for Bedoiun, it seems the same old thing, slow negoiations with
labels that put out good product (Black Widow) but are very slow. Seems
they should have loads of material?
New Dark Sun- Ice Ritual CD will be out next month and the limited
edition 300 copies on vinyl soon after (this will be on a label I am part of
here in denmark. We will also release a new double live On Trial record,
limited to 300 copies on vinyl only in April.
SCott
From ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO Fri Feb 11 05:44:37 2000
From: ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO (Ketil Svendsen)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:44:37 +0100
Subject: OFF: gong in norway
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.114437.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
wow...gong in little bergen - and at my fav. pub/venue, the "garage" (
http://www.garage.no )
hawkwind haven't been here since '72 (as lemmy pointed out the 2nd time
mo'head played here: "3rd time here" :-)
oh, and "garage" is pretty small, just perfect...
me and my minidisk's gonna be there...
ketil svendsen,
norway
From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Fri Feb 11 06:32:40 2000
From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 06:32:40 -0500
Subject: BOC: Aftershow appearances
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.063240.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Don't forget the possibility of a PRE-show appearance. The last two BOC
shows I went to, I was able to chat up with Eric and Bobby before the show.
P.S> By "Chat Up" I mean,
ME: "Hey Eric!"
EB: "HEY A**HOLE! THAT'S MY BEER! SECURITY!"
or
ME: "How's it Going Bobby."
BR: "Aah ... forget you pants, buddy? SECURITY!"
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Jackson jr. [SMTP:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU]
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 6:50 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: Re: BOC: Aftershow appearances
>
> On 5 Feb 00, at 21:35, Thomas Nelson wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > This the Gumbyman coming briefly out of the lurking territories.
> >
> > I just picked up tickets to a BOC concert in Eureka, CA (at Club
> > West).
> >
> > I was wondering whether or not it was common for Eric, Allen, or Buck
> > to come out after the show (and if so, were is the best spot to find
> > them)? I would love to get Buck to sign Flat Out and the Ricky
> > Browning Concert Video.
> >
> Most of the shows I've been to lately, the guys come out and sign
> stuff about a half-hour after the show ends. Unless they're pressed
> for time, they will talk and sign stuff no problem...
>
> theo
From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 11 06:21:35 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:21:35 EDT
Subject: BOC: Meltzer/Aesthetics of Rock
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLNNCENLINIMONNCJAEIMCCAA.Andy.Gilham@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.072135.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 7 Feb 00, at 14:42, Andy Gilham wrote:
> Looking in "Helter Skelter" for Elvis books this lunchtime, ok, saw
> Meltzer's, ahem, seminal tome next to where Greil Marcus' _Mystery
> Train_ should have been... so obviously I picked it up. Pretty
> unreadable, but you can dip into it! Many refs to "Memphis Sam"
> Pearlman of _Crawdaddy_... also a brief mention of Jimmy Dean's "P.T.
> 109," which made me wonder whether it was in any way an inspiration
> for "M.E. 262"...
>
This is actually a brilliant observation, whether PT109 did or didn't
influence ME262. The great thing about the early BOC albums [and
all of them really] is you can never tell when they're being serious or
funny...
theo
From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 11 06:24:21 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:24:21 EDT
Subject: Fwd:
In-Reply-To: <4.11317f0.25d4a38f@aol.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.072421.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 10 Feb 00, at 18:28, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote:
> In a message dated 2/10/00 4:57:36 PM, RMayo19761 at AOL.COM writes:
>
> <<
> << Just found out-Lonsome Dave from Foghat died on February 7
> Slow Ride, take it easy
> >>
>
> =============
> R.I.P. and such.
>
> foghat came about when 2 or 3 (?) guys, incl. dave peverett, left
> savoy brown after their "hellbound train lp" (maybe that band's best,
> if you go for that). Foghat was an easy band to be scorned by folx
> listening to punk rock 45's in the middle '70s, but i suppose they
> were analogous to a band like, um, status quo. folx came to get
> rocked and sho 'nuff yes they did. and try not to slip on the vomit on
> the floor as you leave.
>
> HI-YO SILVER!
> Lonesome Dave
Don't laugh too hard...I saw Foghat last summer at a big festival, and
they totally rocked. Granted, they weren't discussing cold fusion in
their lyrics, but they were great musicians...
theo
From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 11 06:32:39 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:32:39 EDT
Subject: OFF: Foghat/Savoy Brown
In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000210183648.00964410@mail.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.073239.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 10 Feb 00, at 18:43, Brian Halligan wrote:
> Daslud wrote:
> >In a message dated 2/10/00 4:57:36 PM, RMayo19761 at AOL.COM writes:
> >
> ><<
> ><< Just found out-Lonsome Dave from Foghat died on February 7
> > Slow Ride, take it easy
> > >>
> Actually, Foghat was formed just before Savoy Brown's Street Corner
> Talking album. (The one before Hellbound Train.) Dave Walker was the
> vocalist on SCT and HT. I agree that HT is a great album though. And I
> think Savoy Brown is an extremely underrated band in general. But
> maybe I just want to think that because Kim Simmonds lives 10min from
> my hometown. ;-)
>
Yeah, Simmonds relocated to this area a few years ago. He's
treated like a mythical figure in the Syracuse press. I don't think I've
ever seen him live, even though he plays gigs here from time to time...
theo
From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Fri Feb 11 07:39:03 2000
From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 06:39:03 -0600
Subject: HW : Future CD releases
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.063903.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
It seems that cdparadise are advertising weird tapes
107 and 106 on CD for ?10.49 each. But when you
click on the link you are informed that: Not available yet.
If you order this title we will ship it to you as soon
as it becomes available.
WATCH THE HAWKMAN MUSIC WEB SITE ! !
I am in direct contact with Voice print and will be
getting these titles in from England as soon as they
are released. I keep the status of these releases
on the Web Page.
Hawkman
www.intplsrv.net/hawkman
From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Fri Feb 11 08:57:52 2000
From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:57:52 -0000
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.135752.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Forgive me for my ignorance but don't Honey Bees die after the
season anyway - how can it be wrong therefore to allow nature
to take it's course ??
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Mather [mailto:paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU]
Sent: 07 February 2000 04:03
Subject: Re: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
On Fri, 6 Feb 2043, Kevin Sommers wrote:
=> At the risk of sounding ignorant, which actually I am of all things
vegan,
=> why not honey? How is this different from eating a plant which was
=> pollinated by bees?
Well, as I understand it, vegans eschew honey because they disavow the
exploitation of bees---hives of which are left to die off/starve to
death at the end of their productive season.
Don't quote me on it, though.
Cheers,
Paul.
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..."
--- James Marshall Hendrix
From tclark at PETRONET.NET Fri Feb 11 09:10:02 2000
From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:10:02 -0600
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.081002.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Wonder if those same vegans drive cars that use with fat tires that on
occasion squash little buggies as they drive over them....(Just things
that make me go "hmmmmm.")
Mark Lee wrote:
> Forgive me for my ignorance but don't Honey Bees die after the
> season anyway - how can it be wrong therefore to allow nature
> to take it's course ??
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Mather [mailto:paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU]
> Sent: 07 February 2000 04:03
> Subject: Re: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
>
> On Fri, 6 Feb 2043, Kevin Sommers wrote:
>
> => At the risk of sounding ignorant, which actually I am of all things
> vegan,
> => why not honey? How is this different from eating a plant which was
> => pollinated by bees?
>
> Well, as I understand it, vegans eschew honey because they disavow the
> exploitation of bees---hives of which are left to die off/starve to
> death at the end of their productive season.
>
> Don't quote me on it, though.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.
>
> e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
>
> "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..."
> --- James Marshall Hendrix
From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Feb 11 09:21:39 2000
From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:21:39 -0000
Subject: OFF: DarXtar, Bedouin and record labels; + PT news
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.142139.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>Have the Ozrics split from Snapper? Somebody told me that, but
>I'm not sure that's true. The Waterfall Cities was issued here in the US
on
>some obscure NY label, but I figured that was some licencing deal with
>Snapper back in the UK. Floating Seeds was on Snapper at least.
>
Yes, they have. They're on a label of their own again "Stretchy" (over
here, at least). I believe that Dovetail fell apart because a so-called
friend was mishandling it (creaming their money?). The band said in a
recent press release that things hadn't gone well with Snapper (either on
their web-site, one of the e-mail newsletters or both) and that they were
looking to re-acquire their back catalogue and re-release it, 'properly' as
they'd always intended. I thought the Snapper reissues were rather good
myself, cheap and with extra tracks, but there you go.
Nick
From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Feb 11 09:39:56 2000
From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:39:56 -0000
Subject: Sam Gopal
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.143956.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Just received this from Forced Exposure. Fantastic stuff! I
Does anyone else set RealPlayer to NetRadio.com's psychedelic channel every
morning when they get in and annoy the living f*** out of their work
colleagues by blasting out The Brogues, Iron Butterfly, Arthur Brown and The
Small Faces all day?
No? You should. :-)
Cheers,
Rich.
(Who has just moved into his new flat, and is buying a car, and really can't
afford to be spending money on top quality CDs like this... :-)
ObCD: The Dilemmas - InColor
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
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From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 11 09:06:08 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:06:08 EDT
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
In-Reply-To: <91BAA0121CBDD31183B400A0CC585F716202@BRIGHTON>
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.100608.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 11 Feb 00, at 13:57, Mark Lee wrote:
> Forgive me for my ignorance but don't Honey Bees die after the
> season anyway - how can it be wrong therefore to allow nature
> to take it's course ??
>
They very well may--in nature. I believe the argument against
keeping bees may rest on the notion of artificially maintaining a
habitat stricly for human use, thereby 'enslaving' the bees for human
use. IOW, we humans create huge colonies that wouldn't nec. occur
in nature. Sooo...generations of bees exist and die in the name of
sweetening one's coffee!
And, I think that there are many pro-animal folks who eschew the
keeping of pets as well...
theo
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Mather [mailto:paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU]
> Sent: 07 February 2000 04:03
> Subject: Re: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
>
>
> On Fri, 6 Feb 2043, Kevin Sommers wrote:
>
> => At the risk of sounding ignorant, which actually I am of all things
> vegan, => why not honey? How is this different from eating a plant
> which was => pollinated by bees?
>
> Well, as I understand it, vegans eschew honey because they disavow the
> exploitation of bees---hives of which are left to die off/starve to
> death at the end of their productive season.
>
> Don't quote me on it, though.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.
>
> e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
>
> "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..."
> --- James Marshall Hendrix
From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 11 09:07:41 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:07:41 EDT
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
In-Reply-To: <38A41839.2005AC8@petronet.net>
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.100741.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 11 Feb 00, at 8:10, Tom Clark wrote:
> Wonder if those same vegans drive cars that use with fat tires that on
> occasion squash little buggies as they drive over them....(Just things
> that make me go "hmmmmm.")
>
Right! If a mosquito is stinging them, do they swat it, or allow nature
to complete its plan?
theo
From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Fri Feb 11 10:10:44 2000
From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (James A Hogard)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:10:44 -0600
Subject: OFF: Moorcock spoken word gig
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.091044.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Andy Gilham:
> Next Tuesday at the Conway Hall London WC1, with Nick Cave, Ken
> Campbell and
> others. Apparently launching a series of spoken word recordings
> from the
> above mentioned. Only a fiver.
That reminds me, last month the local paper had a brief write-up
on MM's birthday party down the road.
http://www.auschron.com/issues/dispatch/2000-01-14/books_feature2.html
Hogard
From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Feb 11 10:19:11 2000
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:19:11 -0500
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
In-Reply-To: <91BAA0121CBDD31183B400A0CC585F716202@BRIGHTON>
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.101911.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Mark Lee wrote:
=> Forgive me for my ignorance but don't Honey Bees die after the
=> season anyway - how can it be wrong therefore to allow nature
=> to take it's course ??
But I think their objection is the fact that commercial growing of bees
(for want of a better term:) is on a much, much larger scale than would
occur naturally. To borrow a line from Metallica: "I was born for
dying."
However, what I know about bees you could write here: -><-. You should
probably ask a real vegan.
I think the objection to dairy products follows similar lines: that cows
are artificially kept pregnant so they will keep producing milk...
Vive la difference!
Cheers,
Paul.
NP: The Bevis Frond, _Sprawl_
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
--- Frank Vincent Zappa
From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Feb 11 10:20:22 2000
From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:20:22 -0000
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.152022.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>
> > Forgive me for my ignorance but don't Honey Bees die after the
> > season anyway - how can it be wrong therefore to allow nature
> > to take it's course ??
> >
> They very well may--in nature. I believe the argument against
> keeping bees may rest on the notion of artificially maintaining a
> habitat stricly for human use, thereby 'enslaving' the bees for human
> use. IOW, we humans create huge colonies that wouldn't nec. occur
> in nature. Sooo...generations of bees exist and die in the name of
> sweetening one's coffee!
If you sweeten your coffee (gag, hack) with honey. Colonies of bees are
maintained by feeding them through bad winters. Bees do produce more honey
than is generally required by a colony, and can be taken out without
detriment to that colony. If, through a bad season, not enough honey is
produced, the honey will not be taken, and the bees will be sustained by
being provided with sugar water.
Vegetarians? Pah. What about vegetable rights? Trees have feelings too
you know. I know, let's all eat rocks.
Rich.
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From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Feb 11 10:23:02 2000
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:23:02 -0500
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
In-Reply-To: <200002111507.KAA26682@syr.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.102302.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Ted Jackson jr. wrote:
=> On 11 Feb 00, at 8:10, Tom Clark wrote:
=>
=> > Wonder if those same vegans drive cars that use with fat tires that on
=> > occasion squash little buggies as they drive over them....(Just things
=> > that make me go "hmmmmm.")
=> >
=> Right! If a mosquito is stinging them, do they swat it, or allow nature
=> to complete its plan?
Actually, I believe there is a religious caste in India (the Jains?)
that hold all animal life sacred, and *will* deliberately avoid stepping
on insects; wear masks so they don't inadvertently inhale an insect;
inspect and prepare all food carefully to make sure they don't eat any
bugs by accident; etc.
Cheers,
Paul.
NP: The Bevis Frond, _Sprawl_
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
--- Frank Vincent Zappa
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Feb 11 12:13:52 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:13:52 -0500
Subject: OFF: DarXtar, Bedouin and record labels; + PT news
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.121352.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I said...
>As far as Bedouin goes, how 'bout 'Rise Above' who I consider to be sort of
>the Man's Ruin of the UK? Also, they have a relationship with Relapse (is
>it?) over here in the states, and so we sometimes get US domestic releases
>of Rise Above stuff.
No, it was the Music Cartel I meant. Not sure what that is/how that works,
but TMC is a US (or NA) creation. (It's Amorphis that's on Relapse.)
Keith H. (FAA)
From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Fri Feb 11 12:32:00 2000
From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:32:00 -0500
Subject: OFF: Foghat/Savoy Brown
In-Reply-To: <200002111232.HAA00892@syr.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.123200.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Theo wrote:
>Yeah, Simmonds relocated to this area a few years ago. He's
>treated like a mythical figure in the Syracuse press. I don't think I've
>ever seen him live, even though he plays gigs here from time to time...
Jason and I saw him do an acoustic gig at Happy Endings. I was really
impressed. He even did some nice slide dobro work on one of the tunes. And
his acoustic version of Street Corner Talking blew away the original. I'd
like to catch him when he gets together with Kim Lembo again. That must
have been a killer show!
BTW, Simmonds has an all acoustic solo CD out on Blue Wave Records. It got
a positive review in All Music Guide.
"Tell Mama, and all the folks back home..."
Brian
From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Fri Feb 11 12:34:54 2000
From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:34:54 -0000
Subject: OFF: FOGHAT
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.173454.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Tragic news. Foghat Live was the 2nd LP I ever bought and
remains a favourite to this day.
SAH
NP Foghat - Greatest Hits Vol 2
On 10 Feb 00, at 18:28, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote:
> In a message dated 2/10/00 4:57:36 PM, RMayo19761 at AOL.COM writes:
>
> <<
> << Just found out-Lonsome Dave from Foghat died on February 7
> Slow Ride, take it easy
> >>
>
> =============
> R.I.P. and such.
>
> foghat came about when 2 or 3 (?) guys, incl. dave peverett, left savoy
> brown after their "hellbound train lp" (maybe that band's best, if you go
> for that). Foghat was an easy band to be scorned by folx listening to punk
> rock 45's in the middle '70s, but i suppose they were analogous to a band
> like, um, status quo. folx came to get rocked and sho 'nuff yes they did.
> and try not to slip on the vomit on the floor as you leave.
>
> HI-YO SILVER!
> Lonesome Dave
> -_-
>
>
> "<>"
>
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From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Feb 11 12:45:09 2000
From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:45:09 -0000
Subject: OFF: FOGHAT
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.174509.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Fool For The City. Fantastic album. I'll go home and play it tonight.
(Once I've finished the company's vodka supply.)
:-)
(Friday afternoon cocktail hour - a great concept!)
Cheers,
Rich.
----- Original Message -----
From: DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton <stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 5:34 PM
Subject: OFF: FOGHAT
> Tragic news. Foghat Live was the 2nd LP I ever bought and
> remains a favourite to this day.
>
> SAH
> NP Foghat - Greatest Hits Vol 2
>
> On 10 Feb 00, at 18:28, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 2/10/00 4:57:36 PM, RMayo19761 at AOL.COM writes:
> >
> > <<
> > << Just found out-Lonsome Dave from Foghat died on February 7
> > Slow Ride, take it easy
> > >>
> >
> > =============
> > R.I.P. and such.
> >
> > foghat came about when 2 or 3 (?) guys, incl. dave peverett, left savoy
> > brown after their "hellbound train lp" (maybe that band's best, if you
go
> > for that). Foghat was an easy band to be scorned by folx listening to
punk
> > rock 45's in the middle '70s, but i suppose they were analogous to a
band
> > like, um, status quo. folx came to get rocked and sho 'nuff yes they
did.
> > and try not to slip on the vomit on the floor as you leave.
> >
> > HI-YO SILVER!
> > Lonesome Dave
> > -_-
> >
> >
> > "<>"
> >
>
>
> Blessings and peace from Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground
> E-zine, freezine and online Record Store http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com
> PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK
> "The way I keep in touch with the world is very gingerly, because the
world touches too hard" Don Van Vliet
> alternate url: http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot
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From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 11 12:13:09 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:13:09 EDT
Subject: OFF: FOGHAT
In-Reply-To: <03df01bf74b7$bfa14e40$3d01a8c0@tpd.co.uk>
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.131309.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 11 Feb 00, at 17:45, Richard Lockwood wrote:
> Fool For The City. Fantastic album. I'll go home and play it
> tonight. (Once I've finished the company's vodka supply.)
>
> :-)
>
> (Friday afternoon cocktail hour - a great concept!)
>
You guys taking applications, by chance?
theo
From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 11 12:16:54 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:16:54 EDT
Subject: OFF: Foghat/Savoy Brown
In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000211122559.00967100@mail.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.131654.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 11 Feb 00, at 12:32, Brian Halligan wrote:
> Theo wrote:
> >Yeah, Simmonds relocated to this area a few years ago. He's
> >treated like a mythical figure in the Syracuse press. I don't think
> >I've ever seen him live, even though he plays gigs here from time to
> >time...
>
> Jason and I saw him do an acoustic gig at Happy Endings. I was really
> impressed. He even did some nice slide dobro work on one of the tunes.
> And his acoustic version of Street Corner Talking blew away the
> original. I'd like to catch him when he gets together with Kim Lembo
> again. That must have been a killer show!
>
Speaking of Happy Endings, Mark Doyle's playing there next
Saturday, I believe. I saw his last gig there, and it was amazing. If
you can get to Syr., I strongly urge you to catch the show. Very
much Beck [Jeff, that is]-inspired instrumental stuff. Hell of a guitar
player!
theo
From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Feb 11 13:50:37 2000
From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:50:37 -0800
Subject: OFF: FOGHAT
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.105037.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I can't believe that nobody has yet mentioned that Foghat opened for BOC on
the FoUO tour (at least they did at Nassau Colliseum on Long Island - I
wasn't there, but you couldn't listen to rock radio in NYC that year
without hearing the ads for that show!)
-Doug
ceres at sirius.com
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:34:54 -0000, Stuart A Hamilton
<stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK> wrote:
>Tragic news. Foghat Live was the 2nd LP I ever bought and
>remains a favourite to this day.
>
>SAH
>NP Foghat - Greatest Hits Vol 2
From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 11 13:05:25 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:05:25 EDT
Subject: OFF: FOGHAT
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000211105037.00953e40@pop.sirius.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.140525.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 11 Feb 00, at 10:50, Doug Pearson wrote:
> I can't believe that nobody has yet mentioned that Foghat opened for
> BOC on the FoUO tour
More recently, they were part of the Summer Daze tour together a
couple years back...
theo
From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Feb 11 14:19:35 2000
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 19:19:35 +0000
Subject: Off:Darxtar etc
In-Reply-To: <27839F4FFBF6D21181E20008C7C5640801AC7596@exdkba04.novo.dk>
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.191935.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, SHLL (Scott Heller) wrote:
> I did speak with S?ren from Darxtar and the new CD Tombola will be
> released on Delerium hopefully by May. He did not actually know as Delerium
> has had everything for 6 months and it is still not out. They are very slow.
Oh excellent stuff! Poor old Delerium. They never ever have enough
money to do as much as they'd like for any of their bands. Though they've
been so quite of late I'm damned if I know what they're spending what the
Freak Emporium _is_ making on. The On Trial gigs never happened, the
Electric Orange appearances never happened, the new Sons of Selina album
emerged after all that delay with absolute zero hype which considering the
plugging they gave the EP seemed totally out of character... Omnia Opera
split up again, Vex left, Kava Kava just carry on quietly anyhow, the
Spacious Mind likewise; the supposed Porcupine Tree releases of _Voyage
34_ and _Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape_ haven't been yet, nor the CD release
of _Metanoia_ I thought was coming... What is Delerium actually doing at
the moment?
> He hoped they could play some concerts this summer. The band has
> been totally inactive for the last half year.
No hope they'll make it to the UK is there? Scandinavian psyche
extravaganza at the Union Chapel or something? </unrealistic>
> As for Bedoiun, it seems the same old thing, slow negoiations with
> labels that put out good product (Black Widow) but are very slow. Seems
> they should have loads of material?
Oh, is it Black Widow? That might well explain the delay... But
they do do it right, it seems to me.
New material-wise, they had at least six songs they were doing
live when last seen; that's as many actual `songs' as there were on
_Bedouin_ and twice as many as were on _Captured Rotation_...
> New Dark Sun- Ice Ritual CD will be out next month and the limited
> edition 300 copies on vinyl soon after (this will be on a label I am part of
> here in denmark. We will also release a new double live On Trial record,
> limited to 300 copies on vinyl only in April.
Ooh! Keep us posted won't you... Yours,
Jon
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From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Feb 11 14:27:10 2000
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 19:27:10 +0000
Subject: OFF: PT news (more)
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.192710.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Dear All,
having just complained about the lack of news on this,
next thing in in my INBOX is this :-)
Yours,
Jon
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| "Wilhelm Reich died for your sins" (ST37) |
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:33:28 +0000
From: Dulwich, Bishop <dulwichb at cofe.co.uk>
To: jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk, drclaw at secret.hq.com
Subject: :)
(from SW's website)
VOYAGE 34 REISSUE
The album length reissue of Voyage 34 will be released in April 2000 on
Delerium Records (DELEC CD074). All 4 phases (originally issued across 2
EPs) have been remixed, remastered and compiled onto one 65 minute CD
titled "Voyage 34 - The Complete Trip". The CD comes with a full colour 16
page booklet illustrating the various stages of Brian's trip (designed by
Carl Glover).
From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Feb 11 14:31:29 2000
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 19:31:29 +0000
Subject: OFF: DarXtar, Bedouin and record labels; + PT news
In-Reply-To: <004601bf749b$51b91460$484aa8c2@xpnwjjkf>
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.193129.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Nick Lee wrote:
> >Have the Ozrics split from Snapper? Somebody told me that, but
> >I'm not sure that's true. The Waterfall Cities was issued here in the US
> on
> >some obscure NY label, but I figured that was some licencing deal with
> >Snapper back in the UK. Floating Seeds was on Snapper at least.
>
> Yes, they have. They're on a label of their own again "Stretchy" (over
> here, at least). I believe that Dovetail fell apart because a so-called
> friend was mishandling it (creaming their money?). The band said in a
> recent press release that things hadn't gone well with Snapper (either on
> their web-site, one of the e-mail newsletters or both) and that they were
> looking to re-acquire their back catalogue and re-release it, 'properly' as
> they'd always intended. I thought the Snapper reissues were rather good
> myself, cheap and with extra tracks, but there you go.
Thing that annoyed me most about the Snapper releases, apart from
the fact that _Live Underslunky_ never made it back out as far as I could
see, was their pretty coloured CDs. Why? Because Dovetail was one of those
annoying companies that put the track times and writing credits on the
discs rather than in the packaging (as indeed do Columbia on the BOC discs
- ha! topic struck!). Now, I grant you that's annoying - when do I want to
see this information? When the disc's doing however-many r.p.m. in my CD
player. But at least it's there. The Snapper packaging has lovely Richard
Allen sleeve notes and completely omits anything else other than track
lists. Annoying. Yours,
Jon
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| jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge |
| 01223 741219 CB4 1JL |
|----------------------------------------------------------|
| "Wilhelm Reich died for your sins" (ST37) |
\----------------------------------------------------------/
From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Feb 11 14:50:17 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 14:50:17 EST
Subject: Fwd: the sound of hooves,
a cloud of dust and a hearty ( )
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.145017.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/11/00 7:24:53 AM, tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes:
<< Don't laugh too hard. >>
nay, nay, suh.
foghat did a song called "hi-yo silver" (i think) which had an unusual
similarity to 'train kept a rollin', though i dont teenk they wrote it.
i was seing him off just then.
"<>"
From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 11 14:08:25 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:08:25 EDT
Subject: Fwd: the sound of hooves,
a cloud of dust and a hearty ( )
In-Reply-To: <3c.1279c7c.25d5c1f9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.150825.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 11 Feb 00, at 14:50, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote:
> In a message dated 2/11/00 7:24:53 AM, tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU
> writes:
>
> << Don't laugh too hard. >>
>
> nay, nay, suh.
>
> foghat did a song called "hi-yo silver" (i think) which had an unusual
> similarity to 'train kept a rollin', though i dont teenk they wrote
> it.
>
> i was seing him off just then.
>
Right you are. High-Ho Silver/Honey Hush/Train Kept...are all
variations on a theme...
tj
From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 11 15:27:19 2000
From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:27:19 EST
Subject: the sound of hooves, a cloud of dust and a hearty ( )
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.152719.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/11/00 2:51:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, DASLUD at AOL.COM
writes:
<<
foghat did a song called "hi-yo silver" (i think) which had an unusual
similarity to 'train kept a rollin', though i dont teenk they wrote it.
>>
'Honey Hush' was the title; to my astonished 13 yr old ears the version on
'...live' put the much more established aerosmith version to shame!
btw: the FoUO tour w/foghat was also known as the 'blue fog' tour; the
'sequel', if you will, to the very successful (?) 'black and blue' tour
(sabbath/BOC).
when do we talk about thin lizzy?
rmayo
From Jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Feb 10 19:17:29 2000
From: Jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 00:17:29 +0000
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.04.10002062256440.12790-100000@zappa.dlib.vt.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.001729.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In message <Pine.LNX.4.04.10002062256440.12790-100000 at zappa.dlib.vt.edu>
, Paul Mather <paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU> writes
>hives of which are left to die off/starve to
>death at the end of their productive season.
The bastards!
--
Jon
From tclark at PETRONET.NET Fri Feb 11 16:00:08 2000
From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:00:08 -0600
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.150008.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Oh..and don' t forget the house that you live in was built on the nests of
various critters as well, and pretty much destroyed their way of life. Gosh
darned it!
Jon Browne wrote:
> In message <Pine.LNX.4.04.10002062256440.12790-100000 at zappa.dlib.vt.edu>
> , Paul Mather <paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU> writes
> >hives of which are left to die off/starve to
> >death at the end of their productive season.
>
> The bastards!
> --
> Jon
From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Fri Feb 11 16:03:42 2000
From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:03:42 -0500
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.160342.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Yeah, the bees should be rewarded for their efforts with free first-class
flights to Cancun, or at least
central heating and lots of little tv dinners! =)
>In message <Pine.LNX.4.04.10002062256440.12790-100000 at zappa.dlib.vt.edu>
>, Paul Mather <paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU> writes
>>hives of which are left to die off/starve to
>>death at the end of their productive season.
>
>The bastards!
>--
>Jon
From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Feb 11 16:39:22 2000
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:39:22 -0500
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
In-Reply-To: <38A47857.CCF4A0FA@petronet.net>
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.163922.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Tom Clark wrote:
=> Oh..and don' t forget the house that you live in was built on the nests of
=> various critters as well, and pretty much destroyed their way of life. Gosh
=> darned it!
=>
=> Jon Browne wrote:
=>
=> > In message <Pine.LNX.4.04.10002062256440.12790-100000 at zappa.dlib.vt.edu>
=> > , Paul Mather <paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU> writes
=> > >hives of which are left to die off/starve to
=> > >death at the end of their productive season.
=> >
=> > The bastards!
In the words of Kyuss: "You act like I care." Alas, I don't (about the
bees, that is:).
But it is amusing to see so much veiled intolerance spring up from such
an innocuous query.
Maybe we should start bashing religions, or other lifestyle
choices next?
Cheers,
Paul.
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
--- Frank Vincent Zappa
From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Feb 11 16:42:50 2000
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:42:50 -0500
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
In-Reply-To: <000a01bf74d3$7abd21c0$84f87ad1@tomb>
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.164250.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Sprawl wrote:
=> Yeah, the bees should be rewarded for their efforts with free first-class
=> flights to Cancun, or at least
=> central heating and lots of little tv dinners! =)
And they could all live happily in a city of tiny lites. (Covered by
Agents of Chaos, he says, in a desperate attempt to bring things back on
topic...;)
Cheers,
Paul.
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
--- Frank Vincent Zappa
From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Fri Feb 11 20:46:07 2000
From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 20:46:07 -0500
Subject: BOC: BOC news
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.204607.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
from www.bocfanclub.com
Imaginos is availible again on CD in Europe.
Eye of the Hurricane is an E. Bloom ditty.
Another new tune done live, "Pocket" is a Roeserwerk
From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Fri Feb 11 20:09:44 2000
From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 20:09:44 -0500
Subject: BOC: BOC news
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20000211204607.0069356c@mail1.wizvax.net>
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.200944.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Jason wrote:
>from www.bocfanclub.com
>
>Imaginos is availible again on CD in Europe.
>Eye of the Hurricane is an E. Bloom ditty.
>Another new tune done live, "Pocket" is a Roeserwerk
And I just heard the organ player at the New York Rangers game play the
riff to Cities On Flame.
Brian
obcd>MOFI BOC/T&M remaster
From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Sat Feb 12 05:26:33 2000
From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 21:26:33 +1100
Subject: HW: Australian Tour Merchandise
Message-ID: <SAT.12.FEB.2000.212633.1100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi all,
If anyone out there in Hawkfanland is interested in obtaining Hawkwind
merchandise from the Australian leg of the current tour, I may be able to
help. The organiser of the tour will be getting back to me in a day or two
with pricing on the T-Shirts (and possibly some other goodies) which he is
having prepared this week.
Any takers should mail me privately (off list) if they would like to buy a T-
Shirt (or any other merch) and include the quantity and size. I'll reply off
list with prices and details of the design when I have them, but note that I
will need the money in advance as I have to pick up the goods on the night of
the Metro gig in Sydney on the 24th (and I'm strapped right now so can't
cover it).
(I would estimate that the shirts could be around $A30 as small runs are not
that cheap, and I would guess about $A10 for international postage. I'll
visit the PO during the week to get a better estimate on that.)
Hopefully we can help cover some of his losses and at the same time be able
to own what will surely become a collectors item of sorts. Show your support!!
In other news - I've learned today that Hawkwind will be interviewed for a
music program to be aired on our national ABC TV network (like the british
BBC)!!!!
(Yes Bernhard et al, I will be taping it <g>)
Sonique
--
The email address ---> sonique at sonique.net
The current project ---> http://sonique.net/house
The bank balance ---> In the red :)
From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Feb 12 08:02:49 2000
From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:02:49 -0000
Subject: HW: NZ Herald Online Story - Grandfather rock ticks on
Message-ID: <SAT.12.FEB.2000.130249.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
----- Original Message -----
From: <NZ Herald Online>
To: <Neil at fawe.demon.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 4:15 PM
Subject: NZ Herald Online Story - Grandfather rock ticks on
> The following story has been sent to you by Neil Price who feels it may be
of interest.
>
> Senders email: elric60 at hotmail.com
>
> Message: Thought you might find this interesting, Cheers, Neil.
>
> ---------------------------
>
> 03/02/00 - Grandfather rock ticks on By GRAHAM REID
>
> Rock 'n' roll can take you a long way, and in the case of Hawkwind, their
three decade-long career has taken them to ... Massey, in West Auckland.
>
> After a nightmare trip from London, during which their plane was diverted
to Honolulu and violinist Simon House was held under armed guard for a 1969
cannabis charge, they are relaxing in a suburban garden, laughing about the
experience and vaguely philosophical about their past and future.
>
> Dave Brock, the sole original member of the band, reflects on 30 years of
rock 'n' roll and admits with a laugh that after a while there was nothing
else he could do. Today Hawkwind "lurches on."
>
> "Sometimes it looks like the end, then something will happen and off we go
again - like being here. A month ago we never thought we'd be here. I don't
know how it happens, people get in touch ..."
>
> He shrugs, and expresses some surprise that they should have become
fashionable with DJs and samplers.
>
> Their brand of sky-scaling space-rock, initially fired by
consciousness-shifting drugs in the late 60s and early 70s, has been cited
by numerous electronica acts, and their swirling keyboard and guitars have
been sampled often. It's fitting that DJ Stinky Jim is on the same bill for
Hawkwind's Powerstation show on Saturday.
>
> "Yeah, we became in vogue - and we're like grandfathers to these people,"
laughs Brock, who turns 59 this year.
>
> Hawkwind's career began in 1969 and their hard-driving, free-form rock
made them regulars on the festival circuit. Sci-fi author Michael Moorcock
was a regular collaborator and at times they sounded like Status Quo on an
astral plane.
>
> Their idiosyncratic blend of styles has seen them hailed as founding
fathers of heavy metal, but one encyclopaedia of rock ruled out easy
pigeonholing by describing them as making "genre-shattering British
psychedelic hard rock, heavy metal, contemporary art rock, sci-fi, post
apocalypse concept music."
>
> Over about 100 albums they have endured numerous line-up changes (notably
losing bassist Lemmy who went off to form Motorhead, and the death of singer
Bob Calvert in 1988) and the occasional throwing-in of the towel.
>
> These days they are still regulars on the festival circuit and later this
year they expect a full reunion of their many members at the Glastonbury
Festival.
>
> Their audience hasn't changed much - "always young men," says House.
>
> "And diehard original fans," adds Brock.
>
> Ahead lie tours of the States and Britain and ... oh, just other things.
>
> When Brock and House talk about Hawkwind, their enjoyment at arriving in a
place like New Zealand ("like Torquay on acid," says House) and taking life
at a leisurely place, you feel they don't take themselves especially
seriously. But they are serious about the music.
>
> Brock has written some music for a recent Oliver Stone movie, they are
involved in writing music for a project involving the MIR satellite to get
kids interested in space, they all have their own home studios, enjoy
touring because you can get out and see places ...
>
> And so, in the Massey backyard, the conversation drifts through a
discussion about the constellation of Orion and Brock's recent reading.
>
> The band gather for a photo and all the while things are filmed for a
documentary on Hawkwind Down Under it is hoped British television will pick
up.
>
> Unpretentious, good-humoured and self-deprecating, Hawkwind look more like
a lifestyle than just a band.
>
> "Music keeps you young," says House with a lop-sided smile.
>
> <b>Who:</b> Hawkwind, with Dooblong Tongdra, Inangafunga <br>
> <b>Where:</b> Waihi Beach Hotel tomorrow; Powerstation (with Stinky Jim)
Saturday.
>
>
>
> ---------------------------
>
> To view more stories please visit the NZ Herald Online at
http://www.nzherald.co.nz
>
>
>
>
From Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG Sat Feb 12 10:01:31 2000
From: Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG (Olivier Boigey)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:01:31 +0200
Subject: HW: NZ Herald Online Story - Grandfather rock
Message-ID: <SAT.12.FEB.2000.170131.0200.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
on 03/02/2000, GRAHAM REID wrote:
~~~> Brock has written some music for a recent Oliver Stone movie, they are
~~~involved in writing music for a project involving the MIR satellite to get
~~~kids interested in space, they all have their own home studios, enjoy
~~~touring because you can get out and see places ...
WHAT?
OLIVER STONE ?
???????????????????
Olivier
-_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/-
Olivier Boigey
mailto:olivier_boigey at technolink.org
http://www.bwaje.claranet.fr
-_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/-
- sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered).
From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Feb 12 11:02:53 2000
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 16:02:53 +0000
Subject: OFF/"rule of thumb" and other MEATY topix
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.21.0002111633080.24853-100000@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>
Message-ID: <SAT.12.FEB.2000.160253.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Paul Mather wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Tom Clark wrote:
>
> => Oh..and don' t forget the house that you live in was built on the nests of
> => various critters as well, and pretty much destroyed their way of life. Gosh
> => darned it!
> =>
> => Jon Browne wrote:
> =>
> => > In message <Pine.LNX.4.04.10002062256440.12790-100000 at zappa.dlib.vt.edu>
> => > , Paul Mather <paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU> writes
> => > >hives of which are left to die off/starve to
> => > >death at the end of their productive season.
> => >
> => > The bastards!
>
> In the words of Kyuss: "You act like I care." Alas, I don't (about the
> bees, that is:).
It's dangerous using Josh Homme lyrics in arguments, you know
Paul; since no-one can relly tell what on earth he was on about.
> But it is amusing to see so much veiled intolerance spring up from such
> an innocuous query.
>
> Maybe we should start bashing religions, or other lifestyle
> choices next?
Non! God will not go on! Or to put it another way, the last time
BOC-L got onto religion between my then-daily logins, I'd received 400K of
mail, gone massively over quota and had my university account disabled
until I learnt how to use FTP in order to extract my mailbox and clear
things out.
So, let me try this. Religion, Jesus; that leads me onto the
subject of _Resurrection_, which by a startling coincidence is the album
I'm listening to right now, you know, the Pretty Things netcast version of
_S. F. Sorrow_, and leads me to ask, has anyone got the new album by
them and is it any good? Yours,
Jon
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From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Sat Feb 12 12:19:36 2000
From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 17:19:36 -0000
Subject: OFF: Moorcock spoken word gig
Message-ID: <SAT.12.FEB.2000.171936.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Is next Tuesday 15th Feb? Do you know any more details about the gig?
---
Kevin Perry
Sonic Energy Authority
http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/
"It is the business of the future to be dangerous;
and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its
duties."
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Gilham <Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 9:43 AM
Subject: OFF: Moorcock spoken word gig
> Next Tuesday at the Conway Hall London WC1, with Nick Cave, Ken Campbell
and
> others. Apparently launching a series of spoken word recordings from the
> above mentioned. Only a fiver.
>
> -- Andy
>
> mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham
From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sat Feb 12 13:57:44 2000
From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 13:57:44 EST
Subject: Tonite STRATOSPHERE NYC
Message-ID: <SAT.12.FEB.2000.135744.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Alan and Ian of SURREAL make their first appearance with the
new group STRATOSPHERE (an improvisational experimentation)
featuring Thom Karshish of Finally Balanced and Canis Minor
on the CHAPMAN STICK (http://www.stick.com).
Joe Silva of Finally Balanced and Canis Minor
will be on keyboards as well.
sat feb. 12, 10pm to 11:15pm
in the knitting factory's ALTERknit Theater
74 Leonard Street (located 4 blocks south of Canal St.
between Church St. and Broadway) NYC
From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Feb 13 08:48:11 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 08:48:11 EST
Subject: OFF: is there really such a thing as "GOOD" GRIEF?
Message-ID: <SUN.13.FEB.2000.084811.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
R.I.P. Charles Schulz
"<>"
From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Feb 13 10:07:27 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 10:07:27 EST
Subject: OFF: is there really such a thing as "GOOD" GRIEF?
Message-ID: <SUN.13.FEB.2000.100727.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
thought some kinda 'space' couldnt be worked into this, didja?
this is what my friend rachel said:
<<How weird, creepy and circular. I was telling (my husband) it was like Mark
Twain:
he was born and died on the date of Halley's comet's arrival with a 75 year
gap. Whoo.>>
"<>"
-
From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Sun Feb 13 12:04:47 2000
From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo)
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 12:04:47 EST
Subject: OFF: is there really such a thing as "GOOD" GRIEF?
Message-ID: <SUN.13.FEB.2000.120447.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of
ridicule. he was NOT a loser.
thank you, Mr. Schulz.
From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Feb 11 08:02:57 2000
From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:02:57 -0500
Subject: OFF: DarXtar, Bedouin and record labels; + PT news
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0002081641030.2714-100000@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.080257.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 16.58 +0000 00-02-08, Jon Jarrett wrote:
> Dear All,
> recently acquired _DarXtar_ at long last, which brings
>me within one track of as-close-to-DarXtar-Kompleteness-as-I-can-be-till-
>someone-reprints-_Darker_,
Really? What's the missing track? (assuming I've read this aright)
>and it has set me wondering. I take it there is
>still no news on a release of _Tombola_? Still no label that meets the
>Commander's wants? What is he after that is so hard to find in the
>industry?
A label that will release the album? Seriously, those are hard to
come by. Look at the trouble Dark Sun are having getting their second
album (the studio one, not the live one with Nik) released. And that
the follow up to _Feed Your Mind_, a fantastic debut album.
> And the same goes for Bedouin. The material is there, it's just
>failure to close a deal (as I understand it) that's stopping it being
>released. Again, what is the problem? I remember a while back we had a
>little discussion about how Man's Ruin would probably snap up the chance
>to release such a thing, and they seem to be a reputable company, and
>furthermore have the distribution (although I reckon if it's in my local
>HMV the distribution's adequate - not that I'll buy it there of course but
>as a measure of the album's footprint... ).
Part of this could be a continuing failure to market the band to the
Kyuss/FuManchu/OrangeGoblin crowd. Part of this could be a failure to
market the band at all! Part of it could be that things seem a little
shaky inside Bedouin -- what, for example, is the lineup these days?
Is the band actually a going concern? Hell, I've no idea! Where's the
band website that was promised a year ago? Does it exist?
Mind you musicians are a notoriously slack lot. You have to about
bang them over the head to get them to do anything ;)
>Man's Ruin would probably do a lovely
>job by Bedouin, and Delerium could handle DarXtar judging by how they've
>done with The Spacious Mind and On Trial.
Well, this would mean Bedouin and Man's Ruin would actually have to
enter into negotiations. Who even knows whether approaches have been
made from either side? Has Alan _heard_ of Man's Ruin? Has Man's Ruin
_heard_ of Bedouin?
Have Delerium actually released Spacious Mind albums? Which ones? I
seriously need to get some Spacious Mind stuff. I can't find anything
in the US, and the last time I tried to order anything from Delerium
they complained that the band hadn't sent them anything (those slack
musicians ...).
Cheers,
Carl
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk
From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Feb 11 08:06:21 2000
From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:06:21 -0500
Subject: OFF: DarXtar, Bedouin and record labels; + PT news
In-Reply-To: <200002110127.UAA13369@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.11.FEB.2000.080621.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 20.32 -0500 00-02-10, K Henderson wrote:
>As far as Bedouin goes, how 'bout 'Rise Above' who I consider to be sort of
>the Man's Ruin of the UK? Also, they have a relationship with Relapse (is
>it?) over here in the states, and so we sometimes get US domestic releases
>of Rise Above stuff. [I think I just saw that the Quill CD (a German stoner
>group I believe), was just released here in the states...is that via the
>same pathway?]
Yeah, I can walk into the Newbury Comics in Nashua, New Hampshire and
find an Orange Goblin CD. I couldn't do that in Cambridge, England!
One could do worse than Rise Above. I know a guy (who likes Bedouin)
who knows the guy who runs Rise Above. Have to see if I can contact
'em. But more important is getting *Alan* to contact the labels, it
seems to me.
Cheers,
Carl
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Feb 13 16:06:28 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:06:28 -0500
Subject: OFF: now Spacious Mind/Bedouin
Message-ID: <SUN.13.FEB.2000.160628.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Carl said...
>Have Delerium actually released Spacious Mind albums? Which ones?
Yes...(Singular) album. The Mind of A Brother. Get it immediately. It's
very good.
>I seriously need to get some Spacious Mind stuff. I can't find anything
>in the US,
Yeah, well, even Delerium stuff isn't easily found over here. I got mine
from Richard Stockwell (www.cranium.co.nz) in NZ, in fact, for $15.50. You
might check with Ken Golden (www.jersey.net/~lasercd) and/or Greg Walker
(synphonic.8m.com) to see if they have it. Their current online catalogs
don't list it, but it's fairly new and they might have gotten it in since then.
Where's the CD release of 'Garden of a Well Fed Head' now?
Keith H. (FAA)
P.S. FYI, The Quill is apparently on Meteor City, another potential home
for Bedouin if they could manage it.
P.P.S. Didja hear what Dave said about Alan on the MK discs?? Something
like, "I dunno...I guess he's got a Motorhead tribute band or something."
Surely, that can't continue to be his main focus? Maybe the guitar spot is
still up in the air...is Massett gone for good? Maybe they should consider
a LLG/Snorkwind/Bedouin travelling triple bill? I'd like to see that over here!
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Feb 13 16:26:20 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:26:20 -0500
Subject: OFF: DarXtar
Message-ID: <SUN.13.FEB.2000.162620.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>At 16.58 +0000 00-02-08, Jon Jarrett wrote:
>> Dear All,
>> recently acquired _DarXtar_ at long last, which brings
>>me within one track of as-close-to-DarXtar-Kompleteness-as-I-can-be-till-
>>someone-reprints-_Darker_,
>
>Really? What's the missing track? (assuming I've read this aright)
They redid a Genesis track on the Purple Pyramid (?) Genesis tribute album I
think. (Along with ArcMet, and a couple Gong-related entities.) That must
be it.
Keith H. (FAA)
From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Sun Feb 13 22:45:59 2000
From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Your Name)
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 22:45:59 -0500
Subject: Helen Wheels Menorial
Message-ID: <SUN.13.FEB.2000.224559.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
There will be a memorial for Helen Robbins (aka Wheels) this coming Sunday,
February 20, at the Orensanz Center for the Arts, which is located in the East
Village at 172 Norfolk Street (three or four blocks east of Katz's deli
between Stanton Street and Houston Street) between the hours of 2PM and 4PM.
Anyone on this board who has been touched by her spirit or her songs is
invited to attend.
From m.s.wright at READING.AC.UK Mon Feb 14 05:05:15 2000
From: m.s.wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 10:05:15 +0000
Subject: OFF: Moorcock spoken word gig
In-Reply-To: <001f01bf757e$44de1f40$a8c0a8c0@hudson>
Message-ID: <MON.14.FEB.2000.100515.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
The gig is sold out, and has been for some time. Drat that Nick Cave for
being popular.
Mike w
> Is next Tuesday 15th Feb? Do you know any more details about the gig?
>
> > Next Tuesday at the Conway Hall London WC1, with Nick Cave, Ken Campbell
> > and others. Apparently launching a series of spoken word recordings
> > from the above mentioned. Only a fiver.
From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon Feb 14 06:51:01 2000
From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 06:51:01 -0500
Subject: BOC: BOC news
Message-ID: <MON.14.FEB.2000.065101.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I wanna hear "Beat em Up" at a Hockey game.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Halligan [SMTP:bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET]
> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 8:10 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: Re: BOC: BOC news
>
> Jason wrote:
> >from www.bocfanclub.com
> >
> >Imaginos is availible again on CD in Europe.
> >Eye of the Hurricane is an E. Bloom ditty.
> >Another new tune done live, "Pocket" is a Roeserwerk
>
> And I just heard the organ player at the New York Rangers game play the
> riff to Cities On Flame.
>
> Brian
> obcd>MOFI BOC/T&M remaster
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Feb 14 10:00:25 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:00:25 -0000
Subject: OFF: DarXtar, Bedouin and record labels; + PT news
In-Reply-To: <a04301006b4c9b6cb1066@[165.247.1.121]>
Message-ID: <MON.14.FEB.2000.150025.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> Part of this could be a continuing failure to market the band to the
> Kyuss/FuManchu/OrangeGoblin crowd. Part of this could be a failure to
> market the band at all! Part of it could be that things seem a little
> shaky inside Bedouin -- what, for example, is the lineup these days?
> Is the band actually a going concern? Hell, I've no idea! Where's the
> band website that was promised a year ago? Does it exist?
No, because while it's cheap to set up a website, it's not completely free,
plus you need a computer (and computer skills) to put one together. But I
bet if somebody volunteered to help...
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Feb 14 11:57:02 2000
From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 16:57:02 -0000
Subject: Hawkwind dancers
Message-ID: <MON.14.FEB.2000.165702.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hello all
Does anyone know the names of the 2 female dancers from the Summer 1996
Hawkwind shows?
Then, back to the dancer on the Business Trip tour of 1993, anyone know
Hilary's last name?
Any thoughts?
All the best
Age
Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at:
http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html
From micci at SCI.FI Mon Feb 14 12:50:44 2000
From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 19:50:44 +0200
Subject: OFF: DarXtar
Message-ID: <MON.14.FEB.2000.195044.0200.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi!
>>At 16.58 +0000 00-02-08, Jon Jarrett wrote:
>>> Dear All,
>>> recently acquired _DarXtar_ at long last, which brings
>>>me within one track of as-close-to-DarXtar-Kompleteness-as-I-can-be-till-
>>>someone-reprints-_Darker_,
>>
>>Really? What's the missing track? (assuming I've read this aright)
>
>They redid a Genesis track on the Purple Pyramid (?) Genesis tribute album I
>think. (Along with ArcMet, and a couple Gong-related entities.) That must
>be it.
Yep, but it?s in Eagles records tribute, call A Tribut To Genesis, The Fox
Lies Down.
DarXtar play Dancing With The Moonlit Knight song.
ArcMet play The Waiting Room, which is btw. very good.
Miikka Wagner
email: micci at sci.fi
http://www.sci.fi/~micci
From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Feb 14 13:08:58 2000
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 13:08:58 -0500
Subject: OFF: Blue Floyd remaining tour dates
Message-ID: <MON.14.FEB.2000.130858.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I'm posting this because I thought there may be some tangential
interest in the current Blue Floyd tour underway. Blue Floyd are
"Pink Floyd in a blues style," or at least ostensibly so. (Think
along the lines of "Jazz is Dead," and how much "jazz" that actually
turned out to be.) All reports, however, indicate Blue Floyd deliver
good old fashioned long psychedelic jams on Pink Floyd tunes. In the
band are Allen Woody [guitar---yes, you read right!] and Matt Abts
[drums] (Gov't Mule), Marc Ford [guitar] (ex-Black Crowes), Berry
Oakley, Jr. [bass] (OKB Band), and Johnny Neel [keyboards, harmonica]
(ex-Allman Brothers Band).
Here is a setlist from their recent Atlanta show, to give an idea of
what they're playing. It's pretty representative, apart from "Dark
Star" in the second set, which I guess was prompted by the guest
appearance of Jimmy Herring (from Jazz is Dead). I've also heard
they've done jams on Dark Side of the Moon to a backdrop of The Wizard
of Oz film at the Wetlands, NYC. BTW: Little Pink Anderson (North
Carolina Piedmont-style bluesman Pink Anderson's son) is opening shows
for Blue Floyd:
Blue Floyd setlist-Variety Playhouse 2/12/00(SOLD-OUT)
1st set-
Echoes(19 minutes with Jimmy Herring)>
Sheep
Sheamus
Money
Us & Them>
Breathe jam
Interstellar Overdrive
Wish You Were Here
Hey You
2nd set-
One of These Days
Shine on Your Crazy Diamond>
Have a Cigar
Cymbaline>
Drums>
Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun>
Dark Star(24 minutes with Jimmy Herring)
Fearless
Young Lust
Encore:
Blues in C(with Little Pink Anderson)
In the Flesh
Another Brick in the Wall Part 2
show was over 3 hours
Here are the remaining tour dates. I heard a rumour recently that
because of the popularity of the shows, Blue Floyd might try and put
some more on during the Summer, but, of course, that is subject to the
touring schedules of the band members' respective bands.
02/15/00 Detroit, MI, Majestic Theatre
02/16/00 Columbus, OH Newport Music Hall
02/17/00 Kalamazoo, MI Kalamazoo State Theatre
02/18/00 Cleveland, OH Odeon Concert Club
02/19/00 Des Moines, IA, The Grand Ballroom, Hotel Fort Des Moines
02/20/00 Minneapolis, MN The Cabooze
02/21/00 Chicago, IL House Of Blues
See http://www.bluefloyd.com for more information.
Cheers,
Paul.
PS: Blue Floyd allow taping (both audio and video).
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
--- Frank Vincent Zappa
From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Feb 14 19:42:52 2000
From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 19:42:52 EST
Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 2/12/00
Message-ID: <MON.14.FEB.2000.194252.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
"SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR.
For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing
list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck
WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS FOR WINAMP :
1) Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp
Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to
hear KUCR.
http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml
After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest
at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your
computer.
After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program
(Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp
can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up
on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also
on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the
lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then
click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just
clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the
following http://www.kucr.org:8000
Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp
and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up,
double click again to reconnect.
2/12/00
1.Hawkwind--Shot Down in the Night (Live '79)
2.Spirits Burning--The Unknown (New Worlds By Design)
3.ST-37--New Arrival (Strange Daze'97 comp)
4.Charalambides--Can You Count the Stars (Historic 6th Ward)
5.Circle--Valerian (Surface)
6.Escapade--When a Squall Line Breaks (Duetoafaultypremonition)
7.Can--Spray (Future Days)
8.Guru Guru--Girl Call (UFO, Spaceship--Best of)
9.ST-37--Translunar Injection (Strange Daze'97 comp)
10.Brainticket--Brainticket pt. 1 of pt. 1 (Cottonwood Hill)
11.Quarkspace--Starbridge Freaks (Hidden Moon)
12.Krel--Time/The End of Time (Ad Astra)
13.Steve Hillage--Lunar Musick Suite (L)
14.Aqueous--Entertaining Angels Unaware (Entertaining Angels)
15.The Brain--Box (Access and Amplify)
16.Hawkwind--Dying Seas (Warrior at the Edge of Time)
17.Eat Static--The Brain (Epsylon)
18.Anubian Lights--Our Man in Baghdad (Let Not the Flame Die Out)
19.Spacehead--Aero Pharaohs (In Space We Trust...'95-'98)
20.Melting Euphoria--Scarab Sands (Upon the Solar Winds)
21.Spacious Mind--House in the Country (Mind of a Brother)
22.Faust--Giggy Smile (IV)
23.Knights of the Occassional Table--Trunky Wants a Bun (Les Elephants du
Paradis)
24.Hawkwind--Earth Calling/Born to Go (Space Ritual)
Thanks, Chuck
From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Feb 14 23:43:15 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 23:43:15 EST
Subject: off: c'mon, we just did this....... (test?)
Message-ID: <MON.14.FEB.2000.234315.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
maybe we're all hibernating but seems like 4 posts in 2 days...just making
sure we're here. or not.
someone said to me the other day, in 'real time', lol, that our problem at
BOC-L, w/it vanishing periodically, involves the listserv equipment dating
back to the '70s....gettin' kinda creaky.
anyway
"<>"
From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Tue Feb 15 05:45:41 2000
From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 10:45:41 -0000
Subject: OFF: My darned Mail
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.104541.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Any ideas how to get rid of this bumph stuff below ??
Cheers Guys,
Mark
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From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Feb 15 06:10:04 2000
From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Zebulon Mysterioso)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:10:04 GMT
Subject: BOC/OFF: Meltzer's book
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.111004.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
What was Richard Meltzer's much maligned book called?
Metaphysics of Rock or something?
Help!
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From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Feb 14 07:59:33 2000
From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 07:59:33 -0500
Subject: OFF: DarXtar
In-Reply-To: <200002132126.QAA10917@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.14.FEB.2000.075933.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 16.26 -0500 00-02-13, K Henderson wrote:
>They redid a Genesis track on the Purple Pyramid (?) Genesis tribute album I
>think. (Along with ArcMet, and a couple Gong-related entities.) That must
>be it.
How terrifying. I suppose I should try and look for it when I can ...
Cheers,
Carl
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk
From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Feb 14 08:03:25 2000
From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 08:03:25 -0500
Subject: OFF: now Spacious Mind/Bedouin
In-Reply-To: <200002132106.QAA08189@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.14.FEB.2000.080325.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 16.06 -0500 00-02-13, K Henderson wrote:
>Carl said...
>>Have Delerium actually released Spacious Mind albums? Which ones?
>
>Yes...(Singular) album. The Mind of A Brother. Get it immediately. It's
>very good.
Mmmm, must look into this.
>>I seriously need to get some Spacious Mind stuff. I can't find anything
>>in the US,
>
>Yeah, well, even Delerium stuff isn't easily found over here. I got mine
>from Richard Stockwell (www.cranium.co.nz) in NZ, in fact, for $15.50. You
>might check with Ken Golden (www.jersey.net/~lasercd) and/or Greg Walker
>(synphonic.8m.com) to see if they have it. Their current online catalogs
>don't list it, but it's fairly new and they might have gotten it in
>since then.
Thanks--I'll check.
>Where's the CD release of 'Garden of a Well Fed Head' now?
Yeah, seriously. This kollector vinyl release business is all very
well, but makes it difficult to sell your records to people who only
have CD players!
>P.S. FYI, The Quill is apparently on Meteor City, another potential home
>for Bedouin if they could manage it.
Good point. After all, Meteor City released an EP by the excellent
Misdemeanor "fr?n Stockholm" so I shouldn't think Bedouin would be a
big stretch. (But I'm still waiting for their Trouble tribute).
>P.P.S. Didja hear what Dave said about Alan on the MK discs?? Something
>like, "I dunno...I guess he's got a Motorhead tribute band or something."
>Surely, that can't continue to be his main focus? Maybe the guitar spot is
>still up in the air...is Massett gone for good? Maybe they should consider
>a LLG/Snorkwind/Bedouin travelling triple bill? I'd like to see
>that over here!
If Alan is focusing on a Motorhead tribute band, then he's lost his
mind. Otherwise, everyone polish up your guitars and audition ;)
Cheers,
Carl
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Feb 15 06:24:25 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 11:24:25 -0000
Subject: BOC/OFF: Meltzer's book
In-Reply-To: <20000215111004.60015.qmail@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.112425.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Aesthetics of Rock.
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: 15 February 2000 11:10
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: BOC/OFF: Meltzer's book
>
>
> What was Richard Meltzer's much maligned book called?
> Metaphysics of Rock or something?
> Help!
> ______________________________________________________
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From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Tue Feb 15 01:19:41 2000
From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 06:19:41 +0000
Subject: BOC: New album
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.061941.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
So does anybody have even a vague idea of when the new BOC album is
coming out? What's it gonna be called? And how's the new Buck tune
they're supposedly playing live?
-- Nick
From micci at SCI.FI Tue Feb 15 11:51:10 2000
From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:51:10 +0200
Subject: off:Alan Davey/Bedouin
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.185110.0200.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi!
New Davey?s album call Chaos Delight or something like that, will be out on
Feb.22 from Black Widow records.
Miikka Wagner
email: micci at sci.fi
http://www.sci.fi/~micci
From jessica.swart at STUDENT.UVA.NL Tue Feb 15 13:14:34 2000
From: jessica.swart at STUDENT.UVA.NL (Donald en Jessica)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 19:14:34 +0100
Subject: HW: Glastonburry vote
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.191434.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
It seems to be possible to vote again for glastonbury festival after
they 'repaired' their url. Just give it a try ... (hawkwind is at top
with 560 votes, Radiohead 516!)
http://www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/cgi-bin/vote.pl
or
http://www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/2000/
From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Feb 15 13:33:21 2000
From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 18:33:21 +0000
Subject: HW: I pity the fool....
In-Reply-To: <38A99789.62D7DB67@student.uva.nl>
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.183321.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
http://penn.netroedge.com/~mrt/
I pitied Http://www.hawkwind.com
you could pity another URL
--
Jon
From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Feb 15 13:32:55 2000
From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 10:32:55 -0800
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: <12D31B8A.71DA@xtra.co.nz>
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.103255.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi,
Thought you might like to see another firsthand account of one of the
Hawkwind shows down under. This one comes from Brother Love, solo artist
and guitarist for New Zealand psych rockers Space Dust. A couple of
(semi-)inside references are annotated at the bottom (since this was
originally a personal Email).
At 10:10 PM 01/04/1980 +1300, Martin Henderson <brolove at xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>Hawkwind - James Cabaret, Wellington, NZ, 12/2/2000
>
>Well, I thought the world was bound for maybe another bout of fooling
>with psychedelia - Monster Magnet selling big, Madonna embracing the
>doof, and Hawkwind making a world tour! Well, was I wrong.
> The James Cabaret is a cavernous place made for thug rock highschool
>bands and built to accomodate over 500 people, about a tenth of that
>number braved the cold night and 35 dollar cover charge to get to this
>show. A crime! What the lazy bastards who didn't bother missed out on
>was one of the most effortless displays of mind-bending psychedelic
>mastery this country has yet seen - (probably since the last Space Dust
>tour anyway - HaHa!:)
> One after another they tumbled out, all well over ten minutes and
>seemingly fresh as daisies - this has got to be one of those bands who
>never play anything quite the same way twice. Shouldn't Do That,
>Brainstorm, Love In Space, Master Of The Universe, Psychedelic Warlords
>- Dave Brock anchoring the rest with his ceaseless tinkerings and
>arresting voice, Richard Chadwick rolling over the drum kit like a
>hundred Dwayne Zarakovs [1], around which the violin and keyboard kept a
>continual maelstrom afloat, always touching the sky and buried in the
>earth at the same time. By the encore, all I had to do was shut my eyes
>and I WAS flying through space, the ritual had me airborne - or perhaps
>it was the half a ticket to the late show at downstage that I can't find
>now - either way. I can now say that one of the things I always wanted
>to be able to say I had done I now have - Hawkwind as they are meant to
>be seen. As the band chanted between themselves for a while - between
>cryptic requests for hashish afficionados to make themselves known - you
>gotta get out of it to get into it, and you gotta get into it to get out
>of it.
> Afterwards, after the last of the several dozen people who were
>watching ecstatically were filtering out, I shook Mr Brock's hand,
>unable to find any words to express my thanks, or my shame at what a
>terribly underpromoted and underattended deal the whole thing had been.
>(Honestly, I kid you not, we got more people at some of the states shows
>we did in 96 [2] than were in Wellington interested enough to see this one.
>I guess that means that we are more popular in the states than Hawkwind
>are in New Zealand, and that is one sad state of affairs. These are the
>elder statesmen of the future, they really were there first. I gotta
>get out of this town. Rock 'n' Roll just don't matter enough to these
>people. I wanna go where the wild things are!
>Instead I went to a sleazy late night bar and ended up singing a karaoke
>version of the eagles' Desperado. Strange days indeed.
>
>Brother Russia
>Harbour City Scribe
[1] Dwayne Zarakov is the (Great, IMHO) drummer for Space Dust & the
Brother Love band. The kind of drummer who plays more *around* the beat
than with it or on top of it ... sort of a non-maniacal Keith Moon.
[2] The US tour on which I guested with these Kiwis. Bardo Pond were the
tour headliners.
-Doug
ceres at sirius.com
From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Tue Feb 15 14:47:40 2000
From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 19:47:40 -0000
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.194740.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
This indeed saddens me beyond me beyond expression!
I love Hawkwind in all their ever changing guises and try to see them
whenever and wherever possible, in fact between 1985 and 1993 I saw
them at least once a year. Now my hit ratio has not been as good
since, but still I'm desperate to make amends at any opertunity and
hence I'm particularly saddened by poor attendance at what appears to
have been a top gig (when is HW ever not)
Retiring back to lurkdom once more,
Doc x
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Pearson <ceres at SIRIUS.COM>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: 15 February 2000 18:38
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
>Hi,
>
>Thought you might like to see another firsthand account of one of the
>Hawkwind shows down under. This one comes from Brother Love, solo
artist
>and guitarist for New Zealand psych rockers Space Dust. A couple of
>(semi-)inside references are annotated at the bottom (since this was
>originally a personal Email).
>
>At 10:10 PM 01/04/1980 +1300, Martin Henderson <brolove at xtra.co.nz>
wrote:
>>Hawkwind - James Cabaret, Wellington, NZ, 12/2/2000
>>
>>Well, I thought the world was bound for maybe another bout of
fooling
>>with psychedelia - Monster Magnet selling big, Madonna embracing the
>>doof, and Hawkwind making a world tour! Well, was I wrong.
>> The James Cabaret is a cavernous place made for thug rock
highschool
>>bands and built to accomodate over 500 people, about a tenth of that
>>number braved the cold night and 35 dollar cover charge to get to
this
>>show. A crime! What the lazy bastards who didn't bother missed out
on
>>was one of the most effortless displays of mind-bending psychedelic
>>mastery this country has yet seen - (probably since the last Space
Dust
>>tour anyway - HaHa!:)
>> One after another they tumbled out, all well over ten
minutes and
>>seemingly fresh as daisies - this has got to be one of those bands
who
>>never play anything quite the same way twice. Shouldn't Do That,
>>Brainstorm, Love In Space, Master Of The Universe, Psychedelic
Warlords
>>- Dave Brock anchoring the rest with his ceaseless tinkerings and
>>arresting voice, Richard Chadwick rolling over the drum kit like a
>>hundred Dwayne Zarakovs [1], around which the violin and keyboard
kept a
>>continual maelstrom afloat, always touching the sky and buried in
the
>>earth at the same time. By the encore, all I had to do was shut my
eyes
>>and I WAS flying through space, the ritual had me airborne - or
perhaps
>>it was the half a ticket to the late show at downstage that I can't
find
>>now - either way. I can now say that one of the things I always
wanted
>>to be able to say I had done I now have - Hawkwind as they are meant
to
>>be seen. As the band chanted between themselves for a while -
between
>>cryptic requests for hashish afficionados to make themselves known -
you
>>gotta get out of it to get into it, and you gotta get into it to get
out
>>of it.
>> Afterwards, after the last of the several dozen people who
were
>>watching ecstatically were filtering out, I shook Mr Brock's hand,
>>unable to find any words to express my thanks, or my shame at what a
>>terribly underpromoted and underattended deal the whole thing had
been.
>>(Honestly, I kid you not, we got more people at some of the states
shows
>>we did in 96 [2] than were in Wellington interested enough to see
this one.
>>I guess that means that we are more popular in the states than
Hawkwind
>>are in New Zealand, and that is one sad state of affairs. These are
the
>>elder statesmen of the future, they really were there first. I
gotta
>>get out of this town. Rock 'n' Roll just don't matter enough to
these
>>people. I wanna go where the wild things are!
>>Instead I went to a sleazy late night bar and ended up singing a
karaoke
>>version of the eagles' Desperado. Strange days indeed.
>>
>>Brother Russia
>>Harbour City Scribe
>
>[1] Dwayne Zarakov is the (Great, IMHO) drummer for Space Dust & the
>Brother Love band. The kind of drummer who plays more *around* the
beat
>than with it or on top of it ... sort of a non-maniacal Keith Moon.
>
>[2] The US tour on which I guested with these Kiwis. Bardo Pond were
the
>tour headliners.
>
> -Doug
> ceres at sirius.com
>
From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Tue Feb 15 15:09:35 2000
From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:09:35 -0800
Subject: OFF: DarXtar
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.120935.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>
> At 16.26 -0500 00-02-13, K Henderson wrote:
> >They redid a Genesis track on the Purple Pyramid (?) Genesis tribute album I
> >think. (Along with ArcMet, and a couple Gong-related entities.) That must
> >be it.
>
> How terrifying. I suppose I should try and look for it when I can ...
>
>
> Cheers,
> Carl
>
It's really quite good, especially the Controlled Bleeding track - it's
billed as being Broadway Melody of 1974, and yes it's there (in an
instrumental version), but it's mostly a very extended version of Fly
On A Windshield, one of the heaviest tracks Genesis ever did.
The John Wetton track is, of course, quite naff.
(Your Own Special Way, urk!)
The comp is called The Fox Lies Down, I got mine at Tower....
scorch
From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Feb 15 15:21:17 2000
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 20:21:17 +0000
Subject: OFF: DarXtar, Bedouin and record labels; + PT news
In-Reply-To: <a04301006b4c9b6cb1066@[165.247.1.121]>
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.202117.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote:
> At 16.58 +0000 00-02-08, Jon Jarrett wrote:
> > Dear All,
> > recently acquired _DarXtar_ at long last, which brings
> >me within one track of as-close-to-DarXtar-Kompleteness-as-I-can-be-till-
> >someone-reprints-_Darker_,
>
> Really? What's the missing track? (assuming I've read this aright)
`U.F.O', on that obscure Swedish comp. you were so smug about
having found in Jonnkoping!
> >and it has set me wondering. I take it there is
> >still no news on a release of _Tombola_? Still no label that meets the
> >Commander's wants? What is he after that is so hard to find in the
> >industry?
>
> A label that will release the album? Seriously, those are hard to
> come by. Look at the trouble Dark Sun are having getting their second
> album (the studio one, not the live one with Nik) released. And that
> the follow up to _Feed Your Mind_, a fantastic debut album.
I did wonder what's become of that... Anyone any news?
> Part of this could be a continuing failure to market the band to the
> Kyuss/FuManchu/OrangeGoblin crowd. Part of this could be a failure to
> market the band at all! Part of it could be that things seem a little
> shaky inside Bedouin -- what, for example, is the lineup these days?
> Is the band actually a going concern? Hell, I've no idea! Where's the
> band website that was promised a year ago? Does it exist?
I believe it's currently Alan, Danny Thompson and some geezer on
guitar whose name I forget. Someone will surely remind us...
> Well, this would mean Bedouin and Man's Ruin would actually have to
> enter into negotiations. Who even knows whether approaches have been
> made from either side? Has Alan _heard_ of Man's Ruin? Has Man's Ruin
> _heard_ of Bedouin?
Um, I've pestered a Man's Ruin contact over it, but he never
replied. I'll try again with a different one if this _Chaos Delight_ thing
transpires not to be the Bedouin album.
Yours,
Jon
--
/----------------------------------------------------------\
| Jonathan Jarrett 11 Manhattan Drive, |
| jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge |
| 01223 741219 CB4 1JL |
|----------------------------------------------------------|
| "Wilhelm Reich died for your sins" (ST37) |
\----------------------------------------------------------/
From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Feb 15 15:21:25 2000
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 20:21:25 +0000
Subject: off:Alan Davey/Bedouin
In-Reply-To: <200002151651.SAA05566@pefletti.saunalahti.fi>
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.202125.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Miikka Wagner wrote:
> New Davey?s album call Chaos Delight or something like that, will be out on
> Feb.22 from Black Widow records.
But hang on, wasn't that going to be the name of the full-length
_Sci-Fi-Delic_ project? I thought that was going to be on Dead Earnest. Is
this the Bedouin album or the Elf one? Any information, Harvey? Yours,
Jon
--
/----------------------------------------------------------\
| Jonathan Jarrett 11 Manhattan Drive, |
| jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge |
| 01223 741219 CB4 1JL |
|----------------------------------------------------------|
| "Wilhelm Reich died for your sins" (ST37) |
\----------------------------------------------------------/
From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Feb 15 14:30:56 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 15:30:56 EDT
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: <005e01bf77ed$f38fb820$5124fc3e@ekew.freeserve.co.uk>
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.153056.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 15 Feb 00, at 19:47, nigel.kew wrote:
> This indeed saddens me beyond me beyond expression!
> I love Hawkwind in all their ever changing guises and try to see them
> whenever and wherever possible, in fact between 1985 and 1993 I saw
> them at least once a year. Now my hit ratio has not been as good
> since, but still I'm desperate to make amends at any opertunity and
> hence I'm particularly saddened by poor attendance at what appears to
> have been a top gig (when is HW ever not)
>
It always sickens me to read these accounts. Esp. when it's a band
that you know you are tremendously lucky to be seeing in the first
place. This happened a couple years back when Bevis Frond played
here. About 15 people saw that show, with BOC-L members
accounting for about a fifth of that number...
theo
From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Tue Feb 15 15:36:03 2000
From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 20:36:03 -0000
Subject: Ozrics cancel Cheltenham
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.203603.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
The Axiom, the venue where the Ozrics were due to play in Cheltenham, has
closed following police/fraud investigations. SO don't bother trundling up
west if you were planning on it.
---
Kevin Perry
Sonic Energy Authority
http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/
"It is the business of the future to be dangerous;
and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its
duties."
From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Feb 15 15:33:36 2000
From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 20:33:36 -0000
Subject: Hawkwind Photos
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.203336.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi folks
Wrapping up the last part of the Hawkwind book, I'm URGENTLY seeking some
good quality photos of the band.
Particularly looking for photos from the early 1970's to 1974, 1977 and 1987
to 1990.
Other years always welcome.
If anyone can help out and have taken the photos themselves, I'd certainly
appreciate any assistance here.
Get in touch and let me know what you have.
Email me at:
age.p at conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk
Hope to hear from you all.
All the best
Age
Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at:
http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html
From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Tue Feb 15 15:54:33 2000
From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 14:54:33 -0600
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.145433.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I'm particularly saddened by poor attendance at what appears to
> have been a top gig (when is HW ever not)
Well, there is always a reason for failure and success.
One thing I never could understand is why anyone would
have a concert other than a Friday or Saturday night. Those
2 nights are your highest attendance nights, since most
people work Mon-Fri. Another is advertising. If the people
don't know about it, they won't come. And the last is distance.
Driving more than an hour to see a show sucks, since most
are blitzed when they leave, and driving drunk is hard enough
even when you live a few miles away. (We drive drunk here
in America and were PROUD of it!)
Hawkman
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Feb 15 16:43:18 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:43:18 -0000
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: <000901bf77f6$dee25be0$aba2bcd0@hawkwind>
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.214318.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> Well, there is always a reason for failure and success.
> One thing I never could understand is why anyone would
> have a concert other than a Friday or Saturday night.
Fine if you can afford to have the rest of the week off...
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Feb 15 16:26:57 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 16:26:57 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.162657.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>I'm particularly saddened by poor attendance at what appears to
>> have been a top gig (when is HW ever not)
>
>
>Well, there is always a reason for failure and success.
>One thing I never could understand is why anyone would
>have a concert other than a Friday or Saturday night. Those
>2 nights are your highest attendance nights, since most
>people work Mon-Fri. Another is advertising. If the people
>don't know about it, they won't come. And the last is distance.
>Driving more than an hour to see a show sucks, since most
Distance is a huge factor here, I keep wanting to go to
Strange Days but for me to make it there it would be about
a 20 hour drive . And that it takes place a couple weeks
after I get back from a 34-hour drive doesn't help. I
don't believe Hawkwind has ever played within a 10-hour
radius of South Florida in the entire time I've lived
here (1990- before that I lived in Central America, so I'm not
gonna complain)... It takes me five hours just to reach the
Georgia border.
>are blitzed when they leave, and driving drunk is hard enough
>even when you live a few miles away. (We drive drunk here
>in America and were PROUD of it!)
I'm sorry, this statement disturbs me. Friends of mine are
dead because of people doing this, it's stupid, wrong, etc.
insert adjective. I know it's off-topic, so I'll stop at
a mini-rant, save to ask people road-tripping to a show to
do what they have to to be able to get home safely.
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Tue Feb 15 17:21:06 2000
From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 22:21:06 -0000
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.222106.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>I'm particularly saddened by poor attendance at what appears to
>> have been a top gig (when is HW ever not)
>
>
>Well, there is always a reason for failure and success.
>One thing I never could understand is why anyone would
>have a concert other than a Friday or Saturday night. Those
>2 nights are your highest attendance nights, since most
>people work Mon-Fri.
Not all Gigs can be Fri/Sat can they now otherwise tours would take
forever!
> Another is advertising. If the people
>don't know about it, they won't come.
Good point well spoken
> And the last is distance.
>Driving more than an hour to see a show sucks, since most
>are blitzed when they leave, and driving drunk is hard enough
>even when you live a few miles away. (We drive drunk here
>in America and were PROUD of it!)
Generally a poor excuse!
From Mariej at BIGWIG.NET Tue Feb 15 17:30:53 2000
From: Mariej at BIGWIG.NET (Marie Jenkinson)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 22:30:53 -0000
Subject: Bedouin / Ace of Spades tour dates
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.223053.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi all,
Here is a list of Ace of Spades and Bedouin tour dates.
BEDOUIN TOUR DATES
SPRING 2000
March 9th The Running Horse, 16 Alfreton Road, Nottingham
0115 9787398
March 10th The Gate Inn, Mastin Moor, Chesterfield
01246 472554 or 07947
790169
March 11th Army and Navy, 138 Parkway, Chelmsford
01245 354155
March 16th Alexander Jazz Theatre, Rufus Court, Chester
01244 340005
March 17th The Rigger, Marsh Parade, Newcastle-U-Lyme
01782 616602
March 19th The Cartoon, 179-183 London Road, Croydon
0181 239 1616
March 23rd The Cooperage, 134 Vauxhall Street, The Barbican,
Plymouth 01752 229275
March 24th Zak's, Church Street, Wolverton, Milton Keynes
01908 315447
March 25th The Bierkellar, 35 London Road, Southampton
01703 332900
April 8th Axe and Cleaver, 16 West Street, Boston
01205 367300
April 13th The Limelight, Hightown, Crewe
01270 251929
April 14th Uplands Tavern, 42 Uplands Crescent, Swansea
01792 458242
April 15th Victoria Inn, 88 Victoria Road, Swindon
01793 535713
April 28th Rock Cafe 2000, Unit 1, 1 Millrace Lane, Stourbridge
01384 390918
May 13th Community Centre, Rye, Sussex 07899 676723
ACE OF SPADES
TOUR DATES SPRING 2000
April 7th Victoria Inn, 12 Midland Place, Derby
01332 740091
April 21st Standard Music Venue, 1 Blackhorse Lane,
Walthamstow, London
0181 527 1966
May 5th Club CF1, 23 Womanby Street, Cardiff
01222 399939
May 6th Half Time Orange, Burnmoor Street, Leicester
0116 254 3077
May 11th The Limelight, Hightown, Crewe
01270 251929
May 12th Zak's, Church Street, Wolverton, Milton Keynes 01908
315447
01908 315447
Bedouin were in the recording studio at the end of January and they have
just finished recording a new Bedouin album, approx 50 minutes in length,
with their new line-up consisting of Alan, Danny Thompson, Glenn Povey and
new vocalist / percussionist Dan Faulkner. The album is provisionally
titled 'As Above So Below' and Alan is now seeking a record deal for this
album.
Black Widow are also releasing a remastered EP - as an extension to the
Sci-Fi-Delic EP and is to be released end of February.
From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Feb 15 19:04:19 2000
From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 19:04:19 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: <000901bf77f6$dee25be0$aba2bcd0@hawkwind>; from
spiegel@INTPLSRV.NET on Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 02:54:33PM -0600
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.190419.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 02:54:33PM -0600, Stephan Spiegel wrote:
> One thing I never could understand is why anyone would
> have a concert other than a Friday or Saturday night. Those
> 2 nights are your highest attendance nights, since most
> people work Mon-Fri.
Because they can get the venue cheaper during the week. The
concerts I want to see very often happen on Tuesdays. Guess I
just like obscure bands.
--
| | /\
|-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com
| | /
to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of
ridicule. he was NOT a loser.
thank you, Mr. Schulz.
- Robert C. Mayo
From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Feb 15 07:53:38 2000
From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 07:53:38 -0500
Subject: OFF: DarXtar, Bedouin and record labels; + PT news
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLNNCENLINIMONNCJGELKCCAA.Andy.Gilham@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.075338.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 15.00 +0000 00-02-14, Andy Gilham wrote:
>No, because while it's cheap to set up a website, it's not completely free,
>plus you need a computer (and computer skills) to put one together. But I
>bet if somebody volunteered to help...
Harumph ;)
Well, Harvard finally got around to noticing I wasn't affiliated with
them and blowing away my account and webspace ;) so I've not got a
webstead myself just now (though something will be arising from the
ashes once I've finished redesigning it). I would have no problem
setting up some pages for Bedouin, though to be successful there'd
have to be regular info coming from the band's camp and probably an
online store (and it might take me at least a little while to learn
how to set that up!).
On the other hand, if someone already doing an HW-related site wanted
to take on Bedouin as well ... ;)
Cheers,
Carl
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk
From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Feb 15 20:35:50 2000
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 20:35:50 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: <000901bf77f6$dee25be0$aba2bcd0@hawkwind>
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.203550.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Stephan Spiegel wrote:
=> I'm particularly saddened by poor attendance at what appears to
=> > have been a top gig (when is HW ever not)
=>
=> Well, there is always a reason for failure and success.
=> [...] And the last is distance.
=> Driving more than an hour to see a show sucks, since most
=> are blitzed when they leave, and driving drunk is hard enough
=> even when you live a few miles away.
I have pretty much resigned myself to the reality that, where I live,
I have to drive at least about 2 hours both ways to see just about
anyone these days. But, I figure if the band is worth it, it's no
hassle. I wouldn't give another thought to driving a couple of hours
to see Hawkwind. Now the REAL test of whether you think a band is
worth it comes when you're looking at driving 5+ hours both way... ;-)
The thing that peeves me, though, is why bands often will not hit the
stage until it is ~10--11pm or so. I'm sure there is some rationale
for this, but, whatever, it is bloody inconvenient to be setting out
on a 2+ hour drive home again at 1--2am or so. :-(
(Luckily, I am not one of those who feels the need to dull ones senses
with alcohol to be able to enjoy a gig, so I don't have to worry about
driving long hours whilst drunk.)
Cheers,
Paul.
NP: Motorhead, _No Sleep 'Til Hammersmith_
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..."
--- James Marshall Hendrix
From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Feb 15 20:38:55 2000
From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 20:38:55 -0500
Subject: OFF: DarXtar, Bedouin and record labels; + PT news
In-Reply-To: <a04301004b4cefb99d7c8@[165.247.10.8]>
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.203855.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Carl wrote:
>I would have no problem
>setting up some pages for Bedouin, though to be successful there'd
>have to be regular info coming from the band's camp and probably an
>online store (and it might take me at least a little while to learn
>how to set that up!).
I suggested once to Nick Saloman that he set up his Woronzow site to accept
credit card payments so fans in the States could grab hold of his back
catalog more easily. He told me that setting up credit card transactions
was far too costly based on the low volume of business they did. I assume
it would be a similar situation with Bedouin, so any online "store" would
have to be cash or money order through snail mail.
Of course they could always sign to a label that allows those transactions
on their own site. And the band could just point to it from their site.
Does their label do this? Then there's also the ubiquitous links to CDNow,
Amazon.com, etc.
Brian
obcd>"Superseeder" The Bevis Frond
>Cheers,
>Carl
>--
>Carl Edlund Anderson
>mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk
From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Tue Feb 15 23:58:50 2000
From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 04:58:50 +0000
Subject: HW: Sheet Music
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.045850.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Does anyone have any Hawkwind or Related Sheet music, Guitar Tabs and/or
Keyboard, drums, photocopies or anything.
I have a list of swaps 500+ HW cds, videos, tapes and LPs.
Cheers
Ben Fagin
linuxchaos at netscapeonline.co.uk
From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Tue Feb 15 22:32:33 2000
From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 21:32:33 -0600
Subject: OFF: [Fwd: THE OZZFEST 2000: who do you want to see?]
Message-ID: <TUE.15.FEB.2000.213233.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
OK . . .
Some of us on the other side of the pond probably won't make it to
Glastonbury. But, how about Hawkwind at Ozzfest! Motorhead too? It
could finally happen!
Email your top 5 choices to: Ozzy at artistdirect.com
Karen
Hey Ozzfest fan:
Mainstream rock can't stop it. Y2K couldn't kill it. Your mother will
have
none of it. Rearing its ugly head once again is The Ozzfest 2000, the
ultimate rock & roll festival. As we speed across the apocalyptic arc
of
doom into year five of the biggest, baddest rock tour of the year, the
nominees for this year's line-up await their fate with bated breath:
'will
we make the cut?' It's time for you, our fans, to submit your
suggestions
for this year's line-up. E-mail Ozzy at artistdirect.com and in order of
preference, send your Top 5 choices (besides Ozzy, of course) for this
year's show. Ozzy wants to know who YOU want to see this year.
Sample of ballot:
1)
2)
3)
4)
5)
From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Wed Feb 16 02:30:26 2000
From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (David Greenhalgh)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:30:26 +0900
Subject: HW: Sheet Music
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.163026.0900.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I have a photocopy of the silver machine sheet music I think. Give me a
week to have a dig round
Dave
linuxchaos wrote:
> Does anyone have any Hawkwind or Related Sheet music, Guitar Tabs and/or
> Keyboard, drums, photocopies or anything.
>
> I have a list of swaps 500+ HW cds, videos, tapes and LPs.
>
> Cheers
> Ben Fagin
> linuxchaos at netscapeonline.co.uk
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Feb 16 03:40:18 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 08:40:18 -0000
Subject: OFF: DarXtar, Bedouin and record labels; + PT news
In-Reply-To: <a04301004b4cefb99d7c8@[165.247.10.8]>
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.084018.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>
> On the other hand, if someone already doing an HW-related site wanted
> to take on Bedouin as well ... ;)
>
Let's just say, I'm not rich or altruistic enough to take on another site
for free! BTW, Nik registered nikturner.com a while ago and hasn't done
anything with it yet... but then again I registered andygilham.com and
haven't either!
As for taking credit card payments - well, I've been looking into that as
well... if you're a small trader you can be caught between a rock and a
hard place on that; your bank will probably want all sorts of credit checks
before giving you a merchant account (because if you fail to deliver, then
they're liable), and these fly-by-night people you probably get lots of spam
from, while giving a merchant account to anyone who asks, all charge an arm
and a leg - seriously, you can be looking at 10% or even 15% per
transaction, which kills your margins. Still, these problems aren't
insuperable.
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Wed Feb 16 04:53:01 2000
From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 03:53:01 -0600
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.035301.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I'm sorry for that comment about Drunk Driving
I kinda ment it as a joke. But yes, it's not recommended
to drive drunk. When I was young, I did it a lot.
I never had an accident, never broke the speed limit,
and in my opinion did a great job for the condition
I was in. Now I'll think twice. It's just that some people
handle their "conditions" better than others. I've
come closer to getting in wrecks when I was sober,
than when I was "out there". I guess I concentrated more
when I was wasted than when I wasn't. Plus the fines ($)
are a lot worse than they used to be. I think an old person
65 years old and up are more of a threat on the road, and
they're sober!
Hawkman
From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Feb 16 04:49:31 2000
From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:49:31 -0000
Subject: Hawkwind on Australian TV
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.094931.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hello folks
Got the following mail today from the production assistant at the studio in
Sydney where Hawkwind will be appearing on Australian TV next Thursday.
If you're around Sydney, might be a good place to go
Regards
Age
Dear All,
I am writing from Studio 22, a music show that is broadcast on Australian
television station (ABC) and I thought you would be interested to know that
we
will be having Hawkwind on next Thursday to play a live set in front of a
studio
audience. The tickets are free but there are limited places and we'd like to
have some Sydney based Hawkwind fans come along. There has been very little
publicity of this event so I was hoping to get in touch via the web with
some
Sydney based fan groups. Perhaps you could send this to the Hawkwind mailing
list for me...
All the best,
Michelle
Production Assistant
Studio 22
Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at:
http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Feb 16 05:27:37 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 10:27:37 -0000
Subject: Hawkwind on Australian TV
In-Reply-To: <000201bf7865$cae812a0$831f893e@default>
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.102737.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On their website (http://www.abc.net.au/studio22/) it says Dr John is on
next Thursday? Or are they being recorded for later transmission?
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
>
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Feb 16 05:31:27 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 10:31:27 -0000
Subject: Hawkwind on Australian TV
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLNNCENLINIMONNCJIEMICCAA.Andy.Gilham@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.103127.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I just answered my own question - tomorrow's TV listings say "music recorded
live in the studio." Duh.
http://www.abc.net.au/cgi-bin/tvpub/dailyscheds.pl
On at 11 o'clock, which might be too late for some folks :)
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 16 05:50:58 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 10:50:58 GMT
Subject: HW: Glastonburry vote
In-Reply-To: Donald en Jessica's message of Tue, 15 Feb 2000 19:14:34 +0100
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.105058.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Donald en Jessica writes:
> It seems to be possible to vote again for glastonbury festival after
> they 'repaired' their url. Just give it a try ... (hawkwind is at top
> with 560 votes, Radiohead 516!)
>
> http://www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/cgi-bin/vote.pl
If you can swing a second vote, Don't forget "Malimar" who were the
folks who toured the Glasters site in a white boat towed by a buncha
people dressed in white. Most famous moment: towing it across the middl
of the crowd during Orbital's set.
Then again, maybe Tom Mahler should be up there....
FoFP
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 16 06:00:06 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:00:06 GMT
Subject: Hawkwind on Australian TV
In-Reply-To: Adrian Parr's message of Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:49:31 -0000
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.110006.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Adrian Parr writes:
> Hello folks
>
> Got the following mail today from the production assistant at the studio in
> Sydney where Hawkwind will be appearing on Australian TV next Thursday.
> If you're around Sydney, might be a good place to go
> Regards
> Age
Can someone over there record this to get copies out? What format do
tapes use down under?
FoFP
From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 16 06:08:10 2000
From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 06:08:10 EST
Subject: OFF: [Fwd: THE OZZFEST 2000: who do you want to see?]
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.060810.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
motorhead headlined the 2nd stage at ozzfest during the us leg of the
snakebite love tour. according to lem: 'it costs a lot of $ or you need to
pull alot of favors to play this gig'.
rmayo
From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Feb 16 06:33:24 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 07:33:24 EDT
Subject: licensed BOC
In-Reply-To: <000201bf77f4$d98ec040$3482883e@default>
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.073324.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hey, I saw a NY state license plate yesterday, parked right outside
my workplace, which read:
BOCULT!
who is this mystery fan?
theo
From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Feb 16 06:42:02 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 07:42:02 EDT
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.04.10002152024340.19237-100000@zappa.dlib.vt.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.074202.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 15 Feb 00, at 20:35, Paul Mather wrote:
>
> I have pretty much resigned myself to the reality that, where I live,
> I have to drive at least about 2 hours both ways to see just about
> anyone these days. But, I figure if the band is worth it, it's no
> hassle. I wouldn't give another thought to driving a couple of hours
> to see Hawkwind. Now the REAL test of whether you think a band is
> worth it comes when you're looking at driving 5+ hours both way... ;-)
>
> The thing that peeves me, though, is why bands often will not hit the
> stage until it is ~10--11pm or so. I'm sure there is some rationale
> for this, but, whatever, it is bloody inconvenient to be setting out
> on a 2+ hour drive home again at 1--2am or so. :-(
>
I wholeheartedly agree. I've seen tBS a few times when the band
didn't get onstage til almost midnight [or later!] And these were gigs
over an hour away from here, so yeah, you don't get home til like
3AM--too late for this old wheezer, esp. for a during-the-week gig
when one has to work the next day...
theo
From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Wed Feb 16 08:12:57 2000
From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:12:57 -0000
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.131257.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Talking of band's start times on stage, HW has been fairly consistent during
regular UK tours over the past decade or so! Generally in the UK, 9.00 pm
seems to be the usual time for Messrs Brock and co. to hit the stage, and be
through by 11.00pm. Even though I missed the last tour, I hear that some of
the dates (eg Croydon) started even earlier in the evening. This is fine by
me! Why the hell do bands NEED to come on either side of midnight? As Dave
B said at Slough (business trip tour 1993 - I think??) they had their
hot-chocolate and digestive biscuits to look forward to after the gig! All
they needed was to have their slippers kept nice and warm by the fire, and
to be safely tucked-up in bed by 11.30!
It makes a 2 hour drive for us punters much more bearable at 11.00pm rather
than starting 1 or 2 in the morning!
Maybe I'm just getting too old too!
Guy T.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Jackson jr. [mailto:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU]
Sent: 16 February 2000 11:42
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
On 15 Feb 00, at 20:35, Paul Mather wrote:
>
> I have pretty much resigned myself to the reality that,
where I live,
> I have to drive at least about 2 hours both ways to see
just about
> anyone these days. But, I figure if the band is worth it,
it's no
> hassle. I wouldn't give another thought to driving a
couple of hours
> to see Hawkwind. Now the REAL test of whether you think a
band is
> worth it comes when you're looking at driving 5+ hours
both way... ;-)
>
> The thing that peeves me, though, is why bands often will
not hit the
> stage until it is ~10--11pm or so. I'm sure there is some
rationale
> for this, but, whatever, it is bloody inconvenient to be
setting out
> on a 2+ hour drive home again at 1--2am or so. :-(
>
I wholeheartedly agree. I've seen tBS a few times when the
band
didn't get onstage til almost midnight [or later!] And these
were gigs
over an hour away from here, so yeah, you don't get home til
like
3AM--too late for this old wheezer, esp. for a
during-the-week gig
when one has to work the next day...
theo
From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed Feb 16 08:19:29 2000
From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 08:19:29 -0500
Subject: BOC: New album
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.081929.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Answers may have already come in, but here goes...
> So does anybody have even a vague idea of when the new BOC album is
> coming out?
Vaguely. The album is scheduled for a late 2000 release. The band is
working on new music, and touring a bit less to facillitate that. 2 new
tunes have been played live - the Eric-sung "Eye of the Hurricane" and
the Buck-sung "Pocket".
>What's it gonna be called?
No idea - but my money is on "This Ain't No Sony Compilation"
>And how's the new Buck tune
> they're supposedly playing live?
Pocket - I hear it's a tribute to Alanis Morissette... ;-)
John
From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Feb 16 07:55:35 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 07:55:35 -0500
Subject: OFF: [Fwd: THE OZZFEST 2000: who do you want to see?]
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.075535.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>OK . . .
>
>Some of us on the other side of the pond probably won't make it to
>Glastonbury. But, how about Hawkwind at Ozzfest! Motorhead too? It
>could finally happen!
Motorhead was relegated to the second stage with a bunch of
minor (but good) acts when they were on it. When I saw them,
"second stage" was a tiny area with barely enough room for
the band and their equipment, way off to one side near where
some of the booths were, in front of a concrete area that
turned into a mosh pit. Best part of Ozzfest, for me...
I somehow fear that even if we managed to flood votes,
Hawkwind is something they wouldn't book, tho...
maybe if Lemmy were playing with them, then maybe, but
otherwise no. Most US promoters have no clue who Hawkwind
is.
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Feb 16 07:55:35 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 07:55:35 -0500
Subject: licensed BOC
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.075535.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>Hey, I saw a NY state license plate yesterday, parked right outside
>my workplace, which read:
>
>BOCULT!
>
>who is this mystery fan?
See if you can run it through DMV...
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed Feb 16 08:40:03 2000
From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:40:03 +0800
Subject: Hawkwind on Australian TV
In-Reply-To: <200002161100.LAA19279@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.214003.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi there
The Australian tapes are in PAL format
William
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On
> Behalf Of M Holmes
> Sent: Wednesday, 16 February 2000 7:00
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: Re: Hawkwind on Australian TV
>
>
> Adrian Parr writes:
>
> > Hello folks
> >
> > Got the following mail today from the production assistant at
> the studio in
> > Sydney where Hawkwind will be appearing on Australian TV next Thursday.
> > If you're around Sydney, might be a good place to go
> > Regards
> > Age
>
> Can someone over there record this to get copies out? What format do
> tapes use down under?
>
> FoFP
>
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 16 09:11:10 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:11:10 GMT
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: Thomas Guy's message of Wed, 16 Feb 2000 13:12:57 -0000
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.141110.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Thomas Guy writes:
> Why the hell do bands NEED to come on either side of midnight? As Dave
> B said at Slough (business trip tour 1993 - I think??) they had their
> hot-chocolate and digestive biscuits to look forward to after the gig!
> All they needed was to have their slippers kept nice and warm by the
> fire, and to be safely tucked-up in bed by 11.30!
> It makes a 2 hour drive for us punters much more bearable at 11.00pm
> rather than starting 1 or 2 in the morning!
> Maybe I'm just getting too old too!
No, you're right. In fact I don't see why gigs can't all be seated ones
so that we can relax and enjoy the show. And they should bring round
ice cream during the interval. They should also throw out anyone who
talks during a gig and spoils everyone else's enjoyment.
I've heard that some folks believe there should be some sort of minimum
dress code. I'm not so sure about that, so long as these people are
acquainted with soap and water, have their hair cut above their ears and
don't make a nuisance of themselves.
> Guy T.
FoFP
From flossbac at NLCI.COM Wed Feb 16 09:44:28 2000
From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 09:44:28 -0500
Subject: Hawkwind on Australian TV
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.094428.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Well I hope that someone will be taping this Hawkwind TV appearance....and
mailing me a copy!!!
John Majka
flossbac at nlci.com
> >
> > Got the following mail today from the production assistant at the studio
in
> > Sydney where Hawkwind will be appearing on Australian TV next Thursday.
> > If you're around Sydney, might be a good place to go
> > Regards
From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Feb 16 10:23:37 2000
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 10:23:37 -0500
Subject: OFF: Gig etiquette (was Re: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand)
In-Reply-To: <200002161411.OAA03687@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.102337.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, M Holmes wrote:
=> No, you're right. In fact I don't see why gigs can't all be seated ones
=> so that we can relax and enjoy the show. And they should bring round
=> ice cream during the interval. They should also throw out anyone who
=> talks during a gig and spoils everyone else's enjoyment.
No, they should make those people have to listen to their incessant
blather on subsequent audience recordings of the gig (and have them
reflect on the fact that "gee, this would be a great sounding recording
were it not for that pratt whittling on in the left channel all the
time..."). ;-)
But I *am* all in favour of the ice cream during the set breaks!
(Reminds me of the Gaumont and ABC cinemas when I was a kid, where the
attendant used to come to the front with the little lighted tray of choc
ices et al for sale between features.)
Cheers,
Paul.
NP: Gov't Mule, _Life Before Insanity_
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
--- Frank Vincent Zappa
From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Feb 16 10:36:04 2000
From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:36:04 -0000
Subject: OFF: Gig etiquette (was Re: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand)
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.153604.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>
> But I *am* all in favour of the ice cream during the set breaks!
> (Reminds me of the Gaumont and ABC cinemas when I was a kid, where the
> attendant used to come to the front with the little lighted tray of choc
> ices et al for sale between features.)
>
But the bloke at the front at Coney Island High a couple of years ago who
was wearing a gasmask would have been buggered...
:-)
R.
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From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Wed Feb 16 10:46:58 2000
From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 10:46:58 -0500
Subject: licensed BOC
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.104658.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
A firend of mine (Steve K.) has a MASS. Lic Plate of BOCULT - don't know who
has it in NY, tho.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Jackson jr. [SMTP:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 6:33 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: licensed BOC
>
> Hey, I saw a NY state license plate yesterday, parked right outside
> my workplace, which read:
>
> BOCULT!
>
> who is this mystery fan?
>
> theo
From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Wed Feb 16 10:52:23 2000
From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 07:52:23 -0800
Subject: OFF: Life Before Insanity
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.075223.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 10:23:37 Paul Mather wrote:
>NP: Gov't Mule, _Life Before Insanity_
Well, how is it?
MWood
NP: Queensryche - _Q2K_ (I'm surprised how much I like this, given that Chris DeGarmo left - much better than their last 2-3 releases. It's no _Warning_, but still quite good.)
--== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==--
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Wed Feb 16 10:54:56 2000
From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 15:54:56 -0000
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.155456.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
chuckle
-----Original Message-----
From: M Holmes [mailto:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK]
Sent: 16 February 2000 14:11
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Thomas Guy writes:
> Why the hell do bands NEED to come on either side of
midnight? As Dave
> B said at Slough (business trip tour 1993 - I think??)
they had their
> hot-chocolate and digestive biscuits to look forward to
after the gig!
> All they needed was to have their slippers kept nice and
warm by the
> fire, and to be safely tucked-up in bed by 11.30!
> It makes a 2 hour drive for us punters much more bearable
at 11.00pm
> rather than starting 1 or 2 in the morning!
> Maybe I'm just getting too old too!
No, you're right. In fact I don't see why gigs can't all be
seated ones
so that we can relax and enjoy the show. And they should
bring round
ice cream during the interval. They should also throw out
anyone who
talks during a gig and spoils everyone else's enjoyment.
I've heard that some folks believe there should be some sort
of minimum
dress code. I'm not so sure about that, so long as these
people are
acquainted with soap and water, have their hair cut above
their ears and
don't make a nuisance of themselves.
> Guy T.
FoFP
From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Wed Feb 16 12:06:56 2000
From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:06:56 -0600
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.110656.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I've heard that some folks believe there should be some sort
> of minimum dress code. I'm not so sure about that, so long as these
> people are acquainted with soap and water, have their hair cut above
> their ears and don't make a nuisance of themselves
What about Spitting and Farting? Should they have to go outside?
:)))
Hawkman
From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Wed Feb 16 12:12:19 2000
From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:12:19 -0600
Subject: HW: Thrilling Stories
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.111219.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
OK, folks,
Just got off the phone with Susan @ Griffin
They arrive this Friday and will get to me middle
of next week. Yes, it is Live material from the
Astounding Sounds Tour.
I got 20 copies on order, so don't feel shy to order.
I will tell you that Eli Friedman in Beautiful Long
Island New York will have the first copy before anyone
besides me.
From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Feb 16 12:19:20 2000
From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 17:19:20 -0000
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.171920.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> I've heard that some folks believe there should be some sort
> > of minimum dress code. I'm not so sure about that, so long as these
> > people are acquainted with soap and water, have their hair cut above
> > their ears and don't make a nuisance of themselves
>
>
> What about Spitting and Farting? Should they have to go outside?
> :)))
> Hawkman
Are they the new dancers?
Cheers,
Rich.
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From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Wed Feb 16 12:24:34 2000
From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 17:24:34 -0000
Subject: OFF: DarXtar, Bedouin and record labels; + PT news
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.172434.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Well if someone from the band is listening, I'd be happy to help out.
I'm having a four month holiday starting in March, so I'll have the
time. Check out http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com or
http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk for examples.
Stuart
On 14 Feb 00, at 15:00, Andy Gilham wrote:
> > Part of this could be a continuing failure to market the band to the
> > Kyuss/FuManchu/OrangeGoblin crowd. Part of this could be a failure to
> > market the band at all! Part of it could be that things seem a little
> > shaky inside Bedouin -- what, for example, is the lineup these days? Is
> > the band actually a going concern? Hell, I've no idea! Where's the band
> > website that was promised a year ago? Does it exist?
>
> No, because while it's cheap to set up a website, it's not completely
> free, plus you need a computer (and computer skills) to put one together.
> But I bet if somebody volunteered to help...
>
> -- Andy
>
> mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
>
From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Wed Feb 16 12:24:34 2000
From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 17:24:34 -0000
Subject: OFF: DarXtar, Bedouin and record labels; + PT news
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.172434.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Well it just so happens that at the end of the month my (UK based)
webzine will be taking credit card orders for artists reviewed
through a (US based) 3rd party transaction dealer. Which means
everyone has to pay in dollars, but whats new. We will be acting
as brokers for acts who don't have the time / energy / patience to
do it themselves.
So it can be done.
Stuart
On 15 Feb 00, at 20:38, Brian Halligan wrote:
> Carl wrote:
> >I would have no problem
> >setting up some pages for Bedouin, though to be successful there'd
> >have to be regular info coming from the band's camp and probably an
> >online store (and it might take me at least a little while to learn
> >how to set that up!).
>
> I suggested once to Nick Saloman that he set up his Woronzow site to
> accept credit card payments so fans in the States could grab hold of his
> back catalog more easily. He told me that setting up credit card
> transactions was far too costly based on the low volume of business they
> did. I assume it would be a similar situation with Bedouin, so any online
> "store" would have to be cash or money order through snail mail.
>
> Of course they could always sign to a label that allows those transactions
> on their own site. And the band could just point to it from their site.
> Does their label do this? Then there's also the ubiquitous links to CDNow,
> Amazon.com, etc.
>
> Brian
> obcd>"Superseeder" The Bevis Frond
>
>
> >Cheers,
> >Carl
> >--
> >Carl Edlund Anderson
> >mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk
>
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Feb 16 14:06:59 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:06:59 -0500
Subject: OFF: Porky Tree
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.140659.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
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From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 16 16:26:18 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:26:18 GMT
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: Stephan Spiegel's message of Wed, 16 Feb 2000 11:06:56 -0600
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.212618.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Stephan Spiegel writes:
> I've heard that some folks believe there should be some sort
> > of minimum dress code. I'm not so sure about that, so long as these
> > people are acquainted with soap and water, have their hair cut above
> > their ears and don't make a nuisance of themselves
>
> What about Spitting and Farting? Should they have to go outside?
> :)))
Certainly to the toilet, especialy if they're band members. Why, they
should be setting an example to impressionable young minds.
FoFP
From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 16 17:03:18 2000
From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 17:03:18 EST
Subject: Fwd: FW: THE OZZFEST 2000: who do you want to see?
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From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Feb 16 17:21:12 2000
From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:21:12 -0000
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.222112.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> No, you're right. In fact I don't see why gigs can't all be seated
ones
> so that we can relax and enjoy the show. And they should bring round
> ice cream during the interval. They should also throw out anyone who
> talks during a gig and spoils everyone else's enjoyment.
>
And no smoking either, I assume!
jill
From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Feb 16 17:50:25 2000
From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:50:25 -0800
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.145025.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:21:12 -0000, Jill Strobridge
<jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK> wrote:
>> No, you're right. In fact I don't see why gigs can't all be seated
>> so that we can relax and enjoy the show. And they should bring round
>> ice cream during the interval. They should also throw out anyone who
>> talks during a gig and spoils everyone else's enjoyment.
>
>And no smoking either, I assume!
That's the law here in California (no smoking indoors, even bars, clubs and
concert halls). A pretty stupid one, if you ask me (and I don't even smoke
tobacco - yuck! gross!). One doesn't exactly go to a bar or a rock show to
be exposed to a "healthy" atmosphere. Fortunately, the law isn't very well
enforced, at least in the Bay Area.
Although now that my flatmate is tending bar for a living, she's starting
to see the advantage of the law (and, unlike me, she IS a smoker).
So light 'em while you still can ...
-Doug
ceres at sirius.com
From Jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Feb 16 18:14:04 2000
From: Jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 23:14:04 +0000
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000216145025.00952760@pop.sirius.com>
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.231404.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In message <3.0.6.32.20000216145025.00952760 at pop.sirius.com>, Doug
Pearson <ceres at SIRIUS.COM> writes
>That's the law here in California (no smoking indoors, even bars, clubs and
>concert halls).
Land of the free.
--
Jon
From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Wed Feb 16 18:22:21 2000
From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS])
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 18:22:21 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.182221.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In Los Angeles, they REALLY enforce the law!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Browne [SMTP:Jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK]
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 3:14 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In message <3.0.6.32.20000216145025.00952760 at pop.sirius.com>, Doug
Pearson <ceres at SIRIUS.COM> writes
>That's the law here in California (no smoking indoors, even bars,
clubs and
>concert halls).
Land of the free.
--
Jon
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Feb 16 19:08:16 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 00:08:16 -0000
Subject: OFF: DarXtar, Bedouin and record labels; + PT news
In-Reply-To: <200002161804.SAA11345@radius.connectfree.net>
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.000816.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Everybody's a web designer these days, aren't they! One of mine currently
in development is www.gravelands.com (plug plug)...
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On
> Behalf Of DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton
> Sent: 16 February 2000 17:25
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: Re: OFF: DarXtar, Bedouin and record labels; + PT news
>
>
> Well if someone from the band is listening, I'd be happy to help out.
> I'm having a four month holiday starting in March, so I'll have the
> time. Check out http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com or
> http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk for examples.
>
> Stuart
>
From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Wed Feb 16 19:24:29 2000
From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 16:24:29 -0800
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.162429.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>
> That's the law here in California (no smoking indoors, even bars, clubs and
> concert halls). A pretty stupid one, if you ask me (and I don't even smoke
> tobacco - yuck! gross!). One doesn't exactly go to a bar or a rock show to
> be exposed to a "healthy" atmosphere. Fortunately, the law isn't very well
> enforced, at least in the Bay Area.
>
On the other side of the fence, I'm *extremely* in favor of this. I used
to suffer every time I went to a show, and my wife flat out *could not*
go to shows. She happens to be violently allergic to cigarette smoke, and
has asthma as well. I get nauseous and a bad headache.
I'm all for rock shows being *morally* unhealthy :-)
but they shouldn't be *physically* unhealthy, unless you're going
to play in the mosh pit, or you get the bouncers after you.....
scorch
From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Wed Feb 16 20:48:08 2000
From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 01:48:08 +0000
Subject: HW: Sheet Music
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.014808.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
thats great what do you want in return, there not much HW I dont have excl
tapes.
I can copy cds and videos (50 hours).
ben
David Greenhalgh wrote:
> I have a photocopy of the silver machine sheet music I think. Give me a
> week to have a dig round
>
> Dave
>
> linuxchaos wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have any Hawkwind or Related Sheet music, Guitar Tabs and/or
> > Keyboard, drums, photocopies or anything.
> >
> > I have a list of swaps 500+ HW cds, videos, tapes and LPs.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ben Fagin
> > linuxchaos at netscapeonline.co.uk
From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Wed Feb 16 21:01:56 2000
From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:01:56 EST
Subject: a spy among us?
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.210156.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>>BLUE OYSTER CULT have a new compilation out through Columbia/Legacy called
Don't Fear the Reaper: The Best Of Blue Oyster Cult. Meanwhile, the band has
been working on new material for its next album while on tour. New BOC songs
in the works include 'Eye Of The Hurricane' and 'Pocket'. The album is still
in the early stages of production...<<
(from hardradio.com....are they they're listers? this looks awfully
familiar...
rmayo
From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Wed Feb 16 21:58:18 2000
From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:58:18 -0500
Subject: a spy among us/Deep Purple without us
In-Reply-To: <b5.d011dc.25dcb094@aol.com>
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.215818.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 21:01 2.16.00 EST, you wrote:
>>>BLUE OYSTER CULT have a new compilation out through Columbia/Legacy called
>Don't Fear the Reaper: The Best Of Blue Oyster Cult. Meanwhile, the band has
>been working on new material for its next album while on tour. New BOC songs
>in the works include 'Eye Of The Hurricane' and 'Pocket'. The album is still
>in the early stages of production...<<
>(from hardradio.com....are they they're listers? this looks awfully
>familiar...
www.bocfanclub.com has all that info listed on it. It would be nice to
think that someone in the establishment(?) digs our grooves on here, but
its more likely a search o' the official sites. or something.
listen, learn, read on
Jason
PS: www.deep-purple.com has a feeature on the remasterd DP mkI recordings,
as well as a 2 cd set about the "Royal Albert Hall" return gig. Shades
of... was released 2/7/00.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics."
-F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_
------------------------------------------------------------------------
From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Feb 16 07:50:16 2000
From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 07:50:16 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.04.10002152024340.19237-100000@zappa.dlib.vt.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.075016.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 20.35 -0500 00-02-15, Paul Mather wrote:
>Now the REAL test of whether you think a band is
>worth it comes when you're looking at driving 5+ hours both way... ;-)
Tania Ruiz, Scott Heller, and myself once drove about 4 or 5 hours
each way from Boston, MA to Burlington, VT to see the Brain Surgeons
opening for Gov't Mule :)
Cheers,
Carl
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk
From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Feb 16 08:13:16 2000
From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 08:13:16 -0500
Subject: OFF: Blue Floyd recordings?
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.081316.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Does anyone know a source for the mentioned Blue Floyd live
recordings? I've got some English friends who are particularly
interested.
Cheers,
Carl
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Feb 16 23:19:01 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 23:19:01 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.231901.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Carl said...
>At 20.35 -0500 00-02-15, Paul Mather wrote:
>>Now the REAL test of whether you think a band is
>>worth it comes when you're looking at driving 5+ hours both way... ;-)
>
>Tania Ruiz, Scott Heller, and myself once drove about 4 or 5 hours
>each way from Boston, MA to Burlington, VT to see the Brain Surgeons
>opening for Gov't Mule :)
Well, let's see. My driving radius from Ohio encompasses Minneapolis to the
West, Toronto to the North, Raleigh NC to the South, and Boston/Providence
(Great Woods) to the East. And I do it all alone (how sad!), except for
shows in Cleveland when I can find others to make that short of a trip.
The 'worst' one was that Sunday night in 1989 (?), when I drove from
Cleveland to Toronto (about 5 hours each way) for the first HW gig on North
American soil in over a decade and then back again that night. Slept about
90 minutes and then showered and went to work (I didn't have any vacation
days). It was worth it though!
I've also flown to shows (well, festivals) in Seattle and San Francisco, so
those are the longest distance I've gone. Of course, we've had a number of
folks here who have flown to the UK for tours, eh? So has anybody flown
down under for these NZ/AU shows? Other than the Solar Fire lot.
Keith H. (FAA)
P.S. I just 'committed' to going to see Happy the Man in Bethlehem, PA on
June 17th (the NEARfest thingy). I think that's 8 1/2 hours or so each way,
but I'll stay with my folks in State College so I won't even have to get a
hotel room. Anybody else going? Anybody need my Sunday half of the ticket
(that I won't use)? (www.nearfest.com for lineup) $20 is all (balcony seat).
From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Feb 16 18:10:32 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 23:10:32 +0000
Subject: OFF: DarXtar - Wetton
In-Reply-To: <200002152009.MAA25542@bob.te-cats.com >
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.231032.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 12:09 15/02/00 -0800, scorch wrote:
>The John Wetton track is, of course, quite naff.
>(Your Own Special Way, urk!)
>
What is it with Wetton, he's the Pat Metheny of rock (IMHO): brilliant
musician, as long as he's not driving...
ChrisW
ObVinyl: Nektar - Sounds Like This
ObCD: T2-It'll All Work Out In Boomland (Yup, a re-issue with 3 extra tracks)
*** This weeks swag from Ultima Thule!!! ***
From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Feb 17 05:04:46 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 05:04:46 EST
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.050446.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/16/00 10:41:32 PM, cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK writes:
<< >Now the REAL test of whether you think a band is
>worth it comes when you're looking at driving 5+ hours both way... ;-)
>>
==============
therefore the REAL test of whether you think a gig is worth it comes when
y'all pile into the vehicle for a 1500 mile round trip as did carl, ron
scott, chris bruce and i did , in my faithful (well, mostly) 1980 dodge st.
regis(160k) last summer to appear at Strange Daze 99. i drove about 3/4 of
the way out and carl did the rest.
i asked my mechanic if he thought the car could make the trip again this
summer (Yo Mr Lascko!) and he just smiled. didnt say 'no', though.
"<>"
From jcmoriaud at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Feb 17 05:15:54 2000
From: jcmoriaud at HOTMAIL.COM (jean-charles moriaud)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:15:54 +0100
Subject: Looking for a list member.
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.111554.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hello,
I was looking for a ex-?list member named Steve Kenney. We exchanged emails
long time ago, and his address doesn't work anymore.
Thanks and best regards,
Jean-Charles Moriaud
<kenney_steve at emc.com>: host emcmail.lss.emc.com[168.159.48.78] said: 550
<kenney_steve at emc.com>... User unknown
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Feb 17 06:17:12 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:17:12 GMT
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: Doug Pearson's message of Wed, 16 Feb 2000 14:50:25 -0800
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.111712.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Doug Pearson writes:
> >And no smoking either, I assume!
> That's the law here in California (no smoking indoors, even bars,
> clubs and concert halls). A pretty stupid one, if you ask me (and I
> don't even smoke tobacco - yuck! gross!). One doesn't exactly go to a
> bar or a rock show to be exposed to a "healthy" atmosphere.
> Fortunately, the law isn't very well enforced, at least in the Bay
> Area.
It's takes a while to get up a good head of steam on a Prohibition.
Sooner or later they'll be shooting folks in the street to monopolise
the tobacco franchise...
FoFP
From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Thu Feb 17 01:14:55 2000
From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 06:14:55 +0000
Subject: a spy among us/Deep Purple without us
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.061455.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> Jason
> PS: www.deep-purple.com has a feeature on the remasterd DP mkI recordings,
> as well as a 2 cd set about the "Royal Albert Hall" return gig. Shades
> of... was released 2/7/00.
I've got the new DP symphonic. It's very nice. Not as much
orchestration on the Purple songs as I'd hoped there would be,
though. But it's worth it just to hear Ronnie James Dio trade verses
with Ian Gillan on "SMoke on the Water".
-- Nick
From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Thu Feb 17 08:09:27 2000
From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:09:27 -0500
Subject: BOC-L Digest - 16 Feb 2000 to 17 Feb 2000
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.080927.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>
> A firend of mine (Steve K.) has a MASS. Lic Plate of BOCULT - don't know who
> has it in NY, tho.
>
Does he drive a blue pickup by any chance? If so, I think I saw it a
few years ago in the Burlington, MA area - it was very brief and thought
perhaps I was just seeing things...
John
From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Feb 17 04:00:13 2000
From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:00:13 +0000
Subject: OFF: DarXtar - Wetton
In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20000216231032.007b6100@clara.net>
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.090013.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In message <3.0.5.32.20000216231032.007b6100 at clara.net>, Chris Warburton
<desdinova at EARTHLING.NET> writes
>ObVinyl: Nektar - Sounds Like This
fine record
--
Jon
From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Feb 17 03:59:43 2000
From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:59:43 +0000
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: <a04301004b4d04d38be6f@[165.247.1.219]>
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.085943.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In message <a04301004b4d04d38be6f@[165.247.1.219]>, Carl Edlund Anderson
<cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK> writes
>Tania Ruiz, Scott Heller, and myself once drove about 4 or 5 hours
>each way from Boston, MA to Burlington, VT to see the Brain Surgeons
>opening for Gov't Mule :)
>
>Cheers,
>Carl
The furthest I went for a show was from London, England to Rotterdam,
Holland to see Cardiacs.
Mind you, so did about 20 of us, in seven or eight vehicles.
--
Jon
From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Feb 17 07:54:19 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 07:54:19 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.075419.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>It's takes a while to get up a good head of steam on a Prohibition.
>Sooner or later they'll be shooting folks in the street to monopolise
>the tobacco franchise...
Ah, they'll never get it completely out, which they could if they wanted to.
That would eliminate all those "sin tax" dollars they get from taxing
tobacco.
Still, I admit, I like having the indoor restrictions, i personally
can't stand the smell of it, and not having it in my workplace, in
resteraunts, etc. makes my life much easier. It's always a shock for
me when I'm in europe at the percentage of people that smoke everywhere.
As for no smoking in bars, clubs, in CA, what does that do to Allen Lanier?
Though I don't like being near it, somehow he wouldn't seem the same
without that smoking guitar...
Yeah, tobacco came from here originally but we'll export it elsewhere
far more than we use it here.
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Feb 17 08:07:36 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:07:36 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.080736.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>In message <a04301004b4d04d38be6f@[165.247.1.219]>, Carl Edlund Anderson
><cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK> writes
>>Tania Ruiz, Scott Heller, and myself once drove about 4 or 5 hours
>>each way from Boston, MA to Burlington, VT to see the Brain Surgeons
>>opening for Gov't Mule :)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Carl
>
>The furthest I went for a show was from London, England to Rotterdam,
>Holland to see Cardiacs.
Had the Hawkwind at the 50th Roswell thing worked out, I would have made
the 32-hour drive. However, that was in part because I was already
driving to the area for other reasons.
I may well make the attempt if they ever play anywhere in the Southeast,
I still hope one day Atlanta may be a venue, if so, it is only about
a 10-11 hour drive for me.
Now, if I could only convince them that Opa-Loka (a suburb of Miami)
would make sense....
I made it about 3 hours to Orlando to see BOC at the House of Blues a year or so
ago, a trip well worth it. They were really clicking that night....
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Feb 17 09:00:57 2000
From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:00:57 -0000
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.140057.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> >>Tania Ruiz, Scott Heller, and myself once drove about 4 or 5 hours
> >>each way from Boston, MA to Burlington, VT to see the Brain Surgeons
> >>opening for Gov't Mule :)
> >>
> >>Cheers,
> >>Carl
> >
> >The furthest I went for a show was from London, England to Rotterdam,
> >Holland to see Cardiacs.
>
> Had the Hawkwind at the 50th Roswell thing worked out, I would have made
> the 32-hour drive. However, that was in part because I was already
> driving to the area for other reasons.
I did London to New York to see Hawkwind...
(Well, actually, it was just a happy coincidence, but it sounds good... :-)
Cheers,
Rich.
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From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Feb 17 08:33:52 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 08:33:52 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.083352.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>I did London to New York to see Hawkwind...
>
>(Well, actually, it was just a happy coincidence, but it sounds good... :-)
you... you... it's not like you get enough chances to see them already! <g>
That would be like me going to Paris and eating at a McDonald's,
going to Euro-Disney, and checking into a Jimmy Buffet show.
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From SHLL at NOVO.DK Thu Feb 17 09:14:09 2000
From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller))
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:14:09 +0100
Subject: OFF: Ash ra Tempel
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.151409.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Anyone else hear about this reunion!
Ash Ra Tempel - reunion exclusive (featuring Klaus Schulze!!!) -
Royal Festival Hall - London April 2nd 2000
as part of Julian Cope's Cornucopea 2 day Festival
Tickets ?17.50 and ?20.
scott
From chip at PCC.COM Thu Feb 17 09:42:57 2000
From: chip at PCC.COM (Chip Hart)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:42:57 -0500
Subject: Vrykolakas [Vaguely Hawkwind]
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.094257.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Missive from a friend of mine; Hawkwind question at the end that
I'd love to see answered.
Thanks!
You've heard the expression "Like bringing coals to Newcastle"...
meaning an unnecessary or nonsensical (foolish) thing to do, since
Newcastle was a town that was based on coal-mining. ("Selling snow to
Eskimos" also comes to mind). Well, there is a lesser-known phrase
"Like bringing vampires to Santorini" which refers to the ancient (?)
practice of peoples on mainland Greece shipping vampires (vrykolakas)
to the rocky volcanic island of Santorini whose inhabitants were said
to be particularly adept at "dealing" with them. Thus Santorini became
known for its large population of vampires. I am unsure of the details
but Santorini is jagged, steep-cliffed... not the most hospitable
terrain. It makes me wonder about the natives... sounds like a good
place to lead an ascetic lifestyle... maybe they were (excommunicated)
priests or there was a monastery there or something. maybe it was
their religious knowledge which allowed them to control the
vrykolakas. I'm not sure. What about the vampires? Did they just
ship out corpses suspected of vampirism individually? Or were there
ships which sometimes transported entire cargoes of vampires (COOL!)?
What about "living" vampires (the mentally ill? mental illness as
demonic possession belief)? I wonder if there was much discrimination
or were the insane and/or diseased grouped in with that other unsavory
group, the vrykolakas? Was Santorini like Alcatraz, but worse... ? No
prison; just the diseased, insane and undead roaming freely. Makes for
fascinating musing.
As an aside, regarding Santorini (travelogue time): it's rocky cliffs
are now home to a spectacular resort community. it's geography is
peculiar and mysterious... it is basically an island with a hole in
it. Sometime in ancient times (prehistory? i'm bad with dates and
numbers) Santorini (which was then a complete island known as Thera)
was the victim of an enormous volcanic cataclysm that blew the center
of the island out leaving only the semi-circular rocky ridge that
survives today. Sea-water rushed in to fill the caldera, making for
Santorini's very unique landscape. Some theories exist that a rich
civilisation possibly similar to that of Mycenae or nearby Crete had
thrived on Santorini prior to the eruption and that this may have been
the basis for the myth of the Lost City of Atlantis.
My question is: don't you think that Santorini is an appropriate venue
for the space-rock band Hawkwind? Do you know of any Hawkwind concerts
staged overlooking the Santorini caldera? I know that Hawkwind has
played at Stonehenge, since I own a rewcording of the performance. If
they have never played Santorini, is there a club or outdoor festival
area on that island where Hawkwind might play in the future?
--
Chip Hart * chip @ pcc.com
Physician's Computer Company * http://www.pcc.com/~chip
1 Main Street * Work:800-722-7708
Winooski, VT 05404 * Fax: 802-846-8178
From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Feb 17 09:47:24 2000
From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 09:47:24 EST
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.094724.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/17/00 8:13:47 AM EST, jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK writes:
<< The furthest I went for a show was from London, England to Rotterdam,
Holland to see Cardiacs.
Mind you, so did about 20 of us, in seven or eight vehicles.
-- >>
Me and Bev flew from NY to London, got 3 Hrs sleep and saw the Hawks at
Brixton that nite. 2 days later we took the train, ferry, and more trains to
see the hawks in Amsterdam. 5 shows in 8 days. Did manage to squeeze in the
Tower of London.
Rj and Karen did basically the same trip from Philly. They saw an extra hawk
show but no tower of London. Next time I will skip the Tower!
Bill
From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Feb 17 10:02:34 2000
From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:02:34 -0000
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.150234.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
It's not that some people handle it better...some people think that they
handle it better. I know a few people who have suffered as a result of
arseholes on the road. Hey don't take my word for it; pop down to your local
A and E to view the damage for yourself.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephan Spiegel <spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: 16 February 2000 09:53
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
>I'm sorry for that comment about Drunk Driving
>I kinda ment it as a joke. But yes, it's not recommended
>to drive drunk. When I was young, I did it a lot.
>I never had an accident, never broke the speed limit,
>and in my opinion did a great job for the condition
>I was in. Now I'll think twice. It's just that some people
>handle their "conditions" better than others. I've
>come closer to getting in wrecks when I was sober,
>than when I was "out there". I guess I concentrated more
>when I was wasted than when I wasn't. Plus the fines ($)
>are a lot worse than they used to be. I think an old person
>65 years old and up are more of a threat on the road, and
>they're sober!
>
>Hawkman
>
From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Thu Feb 17 10:12:57 2000
From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:12:57 -0500
Subject: BOC-L Digest - 16 Feb 2000 to 17 Feb 2000
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.101257.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Yep, blue pickup. Chelmsford area.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John A. Swartz [SMTP:jswartz at MITRE.ORG]
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 8:09 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 16 Feb 2000 to 17 Feb 2000
>
> >
> > A firend of mine (Steve K.) has a MASS. Lic Plate of BOCULT - don't know
> who
> > has it in NY, tho.
> >
>
> Does he drive a blue pickup by any chance? If so, I think I saw it a
> few years ago in the Burlington, MA area - it was very brief and thought
> perhaps I was just seeing things...
>
> John
From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Thu Feb 17 11:15:40 2000
From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:15:40 -0500
Subject: BOC-L Digest - 16 Feb 2000 to 17 Feb 2000
In-Reply-To: <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD03F0A1FD@emss05m03.sanders.lmco.com>
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.111540.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
We have a white sports car here in the Albany area with
IMAGINOS
for his plates.
I suppose he is a fan ;)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
Yep, blue pickup. Chelmsford area.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John A. Swartz [SMTP:jswartz at MITRE.ORG]
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 8:09 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 16 Feb 2000 to 17 Feb 2000
>
> >
> > A firend of mine (Steve K.) has a MASS. Lic Plate of BOCULT - don't know
> who
> > has it in NY, tho.
> >
>
> Does he drive a blue pickup by any chance? If so, I think I saw it a
> few years ago in the Burlington, MA area - it was very brief and thought
> perhaps I was just seeing things...
>
> John
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Feb 17 11:34:07 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:34:07 GMT
Subject: Hawkwind on 600!
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.163407.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hawkwind at 600 on the Glasters voting list. Will we be first to make
1000?
I've also got Tom Mahler in there and he's collected another 2 votes
since yesterday. It'd be a nice tribute to Bob Calvert if we could
ummm, hype, Tom Mahler up into the ratings....
FoFP
From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Feb 17 11:37:54 2000
From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:37:54 -0000
Subject: OFF: Ash ra Tempel
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.163754.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Who else is playing? I'll have to check ou the Drude's site. Schulze eh,
it'll be Namlock next.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: SHLL (Scott Heller) <SHLL at NOVO.DK>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: 17 February 2000 14:19
Subject: OFF: Ash ra Tempel
Anyone else hear about this reunion!
Ash Ra Tempel - reunion exclusive (featuring Klaus Schulze!!!) -
Royal Festival Hall - London April 2nd 2000
as part of Julian Cope's Cornucopea 2 day Festival
Tickets ?17.50 and ?20.
scott
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 17 11:47:22 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:47:22 -0500
Subject: OFF: Ash ra Tempel etc.
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.114722.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Scott said...
>Anyone else hear about this reunion!
Not until now...
>Ash Ra Tempel - reunion exclusive (featuring Klaus Schulze!!!) -
>Royal Festival Hall - London April 2nd 2000
>as part of Julian Cope's Cornucopea 2 day Festival
>Tickets ?17.50 and ?20.
Here's more...from www.ashra.com...
One-Time Reunion of Ash Ra Tempel
We have the pleasure to inform you that in a one-time only
reunion, ASH RA TEMPEL will be headlining Julian
Cope's Cornucopea Festival in London's South Bank,
April 1-2, 2000 with its original lineup of Manuel
G?ttsching and the band's other founding member Klaus
Schulze.
The two rock legends will be performing on Sunday, April
2, in the Royal Festival Hall. On Saturday, April 1, English
cult band COIL and the legendary JULIAN COPE and his
new group will be on stage in the Queen Elizabeth Hall.
Cope is also hosting and curating the event.
Ashra concert in Berlin
In its ASHRA lineup, i.e. Manuel G?ttsching, Harald
Grosskopf, Lutz (L??l) Ulbrich and Steve Baltes the band
is going to perform an July 21, 2000 in Berlin as one of the
highlights of the German Academy's of Arts event "Z 2000
- Positon of young Art and Culture".
And now here's a letter from Mr. Cope...
Have I got news for you! On April 1st and 2nd of this year
2000CE, there's gonna be a fabulous weekend festival
at London's South Bank Centre, entitled Julian Cope's
Cornucopea. A 'cornucopiae' is a mythological 'horn of
plenty', which is precisely what we've put together. Some
people have got wind of the fact and have complained
that there's been no information about it. Ha! That's
because it's taken so long to confirm the bill, and what a
bill! Here goes...
Day 1 is Saturday April 1st. It will feature performances
at the Purcell Room by the Universal Panzies and Tony
McPhee's legendary Groundhogs, alongside shows in
the Queen Elizabeth Hall featuring Liverpool's Skyray,
heavy glambient performances by Queen Elizabeth
(featuring three Thighpaulsandras!) and my new
bubblegum-metal trio Braindonor. In the huge triangular
Foyer, which leads to both of these halls, there will be
performances by Anal and the former leader of the
Doctors of Madness, Kid Strange, along with a short
solo set from myself. Extra-foyer activity includes the
world's smallest disco and a special one-off Krautrock
Colouring Competition. Markers will be provided, but
bring your own if you really want to win the first prize,
which is my copy of the double-LP Disaster by Amon
Duul (shown in my book Krautrocksampler).
Day 2 is Sunday April 2nd, and will take place at the
Royal Festival Hall. Here, we have a performance of
mythological proportions when Ash Ra Tempel re-form
for their first ever British show. Featuring Klaus Schultze
and Manuel Gottsching together for the first time in 25
years (*), this is a stellar rock'n'roll event. Also on the same
stage, Coil are finally presented at the South Bank in a
performance of their marvellous Time Machines - and
rumour has it that they'll all be wearing one gigantic
outfit! I'll introduce the evening and play a series of new
and ancient electro-acoustic songs on doubleneck
guitar, Mellotron 400 and the enormous Festival Hall
organ.
I do hope you can make it. And if so please dress for the
occasion and treat these evenings as a simultaneous
celebration of our past combined with the Great Leap
Forward which the twenty hundreds MUST be!
Love on Y'All,
JULIAN COPE
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(*) Not true...Manuel made a surprise guest appearance at a Schulze show in
1997, according to the ashra webpage.
More krautrock news...from Think Progressive:
Best of Burg Herzburg, Vol. II
Wir sind die Kinder der Revolte (feat. AshRa, Sunya Beat, Dissidenten,
Caravan u.a.) New Release!!!
[However! The folks at www.ashra.com claim that the Ashra track "12
samples" on this compilation is *NOT* from Burg Herzburg, but is merely the
recording on the ThinkProgressive Live in Japan recording. And it wasn't
authorized by the band apparently. C'mon Kalle, get with it!]
Anyway, Kalle's got a good early lineup for Berg Herzburg 2000....
Hypnotix, Mitch Ryder; Kraan (Reunion-Konzert), Them, Ole Lukkoje, Rufus
Zuphall und Birth Control.
Big Brother and the Holding Co., Walter Trout Band, Porcupine Tree,
Steppenwolf und und und.
Keith H. (FAA)
On-Topic Note: Of course, Kid (Richard) Strange has a Hawkwind connection
by playing with Martin Griffin, and thereby appearing on the F&R II album,
doing "Work," a retitled version of an earlier song (w/ diff. lyrics), the
name of which escapes me now. And the most direct link from HW to LZ and
DP/Whitesnake (for those into such playful linkages) via Paul Martinez.
From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Thu Feb 17 11:59:20 2000
From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:59:20 -0000
Subject: OFF: DarXtar, Bedouin and record labels; + PT news
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.165920.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Been doing it for ages. I'm an ex Cabinet Office intranet designer.
And the King has indeed left the building:-)
On 17 Feb 00, at 0:08, Andy Gilham wrote:
> Everybody's a web designer these days, aren't they! One of mine currently
> in development is www.gravelands.com (plug plug)...
>
> -- Andy
>
> mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On
> > Behalf Of DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton Sent: 16 February 2000 17:25 To:
> > Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: OFF: DarXtar, Bedouin and
> > record labels; + PT news
> >
> >
> > Well if someone from the band is listening, I'd be happy to help out.
> > I'm having a four month holiday starting in March, so I'll have the
> > time. Check out http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com or
> > http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk for examples.
> >
> > Stuart
> >
>
Blessings and peace from Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground
E-zine, freezine and online Record Store http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com
PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK
"The way I keep in touch with the world is very gingerly, because the world touches too hard" Don Van Vliet
alternate url: http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot
From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Feb 17 12:30:11 2000
From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:30:11 -0000
Subject: (HW/DP/LZ links) Re: OFF: Ash ra Tempel etc.
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.173011.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Links with between HW and Led Zep:
DB (wasn't he credited as being an ex-Yardbird at some point) and Eric
Clapton (hence Yardbirds and Jimmy Page)
HW sharing the bill with Roy Harper at 'henge. Roy introduces the band, and
duets with Huw. I can't remember if this intro makes it onto the live lp.
Roy Harper connects to JP (again) and Dave Gilmour (Floyd) who already has a
connection with Kerb Crawler.
I think there were reports of JP turning up at HW gigs in the early 80s.
A DP/Ozzy connection now: Huw played in Widowmaker with Bob Daisley who has
also been in Ritchie Blackmores's Rainbow and Ozzy's Blizzard Of Ozz. A pal
of mine met Bob Daisley at an Ozzy signing session in the early 80s, Bob
commented on his HW badge and mentioned Huw.
Over to you guys!!
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: K Henderson <henderson.120 at OSU.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: 17 February 2000 16:50
Subject: Re: OFF: Ash ra Tempel etc.
Scott said...
>Anyone else hear about this reunion!
Not until now...
>Ash Ra Tempel - reunion exclusive (featuring Klaus Schulze!!!) -
>Royal Festival Hall - London April 2nd 2000
>as part of Julian Cope's Cornucopea 2 day Festival
>Tickets ?17.50 and ?20.
Here's more...from www.ashra.com...
One-Time Reunion of Ash Ra Tempel
We have the pleasure to inform you that in a one-time only
reunion, ASH RA TEMPEL will be headlining Julian
Cope's Cornucopea Festival in London's South Bank,
April 1-2, 2000 with its original lineup of Manuel
G?ttsching and the band's other founding member Klaus
Schulze.
The two rock legends will be performing on Sunday, April
2, in the Royal Festival Hall. On Saturday, April 1, English
cult band COIL and the legendary JULIAN COPE and his
new group will be on stage in the Queen Elizabeth Hall.
Cope is also hosting and curating the event.
Ashra concert in Berlin
In its ASHRA lineup, i.e. Manuel G?ttsching, Harald
Grosskopf, Lutz (L??l) Ulbrich and Steve Baltes the band
is going to perform an July 21, 2000 in Berlin as one of the
highlights of the German Academy's of Arts event "Z 2000
- Positon of young Art and Culture".
And now here's a letter from Mr. Cope...
Have I got news for you! On April 1st and 2nd of this year
2000CE, there's gonna be a fabulous weekend festival
at London's South Bank Centre, entitled Julian Cope's
Cornucopea. A 'cornucopiae' is a mythological 'horn of
plenty', which is precisely what we've put together. Some
people have got wind of the fact and have complained
that there's been no information about it. Ha! That's
because it's taken so long to confirm the bill, and what a
bill! Here goes...
Day 1 is Saturday April 1st. It will feature performances
at the Purcell Room by the Universal Panzies and Tony
McPhee's legendary Groundhogs, alongside shows in
the Queen Elizabeth Hall featuring Liverpool's Skyray,
heavy glambient performances by Queen Elizabeth
(featuring three Thighpaulsandras!) and my new
bubblegum-metal trio Braindonor. In the huge triangular
Foyer, which leads to both of these halls, there will be
performances by Anal and the former leader of the
Doctors of Madness, Kid Strange, along with a short
solo set from myself. Extra-foyer activity includes the
world's smallest disco and a special one-off Krautrock
Colouring Competition. Markers will be provided, but
bring your own if you really want to win the first prize,
which is my copy of the double-LP Disaster by Amon
Duul (shown in my book Krautrocksampler).
Day 2 is Sunday April 2nd, and will take place at the
Royal Festival Hall. Here, we have a performance of
mythological proportions when Ash Ra Tempel re-form
for their first ever British show. Featuring Klaus Schultze
and Manuel Gottsching together for the first time in 25
years (*), this is a stellar rock'n'roll event. Also on the same
stage, Coil are finally presented at the South Bank in a
performance of their marvellous Time Machines - and
rumour has it that they'll all be wearing one gigantic
outfit! I'll introduce the evening and play a series of new
and ancient electro-acoustic songs on doubleneck
guitar, Mellotron 400 and the enormous Festival Hall
organ.
I do hope you can make it. And if so please dress for the
occasion and treat these evenings as a simultaneous
celebration of our past combined with the Great Leap
Forward which the twenty hundreds MUST be!
Love on Y'All,
JULIAN COPE
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(*) Not true...Manuel made a surprise guest appearance at a Schulze show in
1997, according to the ashra webpage.
More krautrock news...from Think Progressive:
Best of Burg Herzburg, Vol. II
Wir sind die Kinder der Revolte (feat. AshRa, Sunya Beat, Dissidenten,
Caravan u.a.) New Release!!!
[However! The folks at www.ashra.com claim that the Ashra track "12
samples" on this compilation is *NOT* from Burg Herzburg, but is merely the
recording on the ThinkProgressive Live in Japan recording. And it wasn't
authorized by the band apparently. C'mon Kalle, get with it!]
Anyway, Kalle's got a good early lineup for Berg Herzburg 2000....
Hypnotix, Mitch Ryder; Kraan (Reunion-Konzert), Them, Ole Lukkoje, Rufus
Zuphall und Birth Control.
Big Brother and the Holding Co., Walter Trout Band, Porcupine Tree,
Steppenwolf und und und.
Keith H. (FAA)
On-Topic Note: Of course, Kid (Richard) Strange has a Hawkwind connection
by playing with Martin Griffin, and thereby appearing on the F&R II album,
doing "Work," a retitled version of an earlier song (w/ diff. lyrics), the
name of which escapes me now. And the most direct link from HW to LZ and
DP/Whitesnake (for those into such playful linkages) via Paul Martinez.
From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Thu Feb 17 12:55:50 2000
From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:55:50 -0600
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.115550.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> It's not that some people handle it better...some people think that they
> handle it better.
OK, I guess you know me better than I do.
Here's a nice little story....
When I was in the Air Force there was a Party House my friends rented,
out in the country, and every night was a party. One night I got so wasted,
(mostly booze), that I had gone outside around the side of the house to take
a leak. Well, I finished up, started to turn around, and "TIMBER" over I
fell. Well I tried to stand up, and it was no use. The `ol legs said no
way. I started laughing at myself, as I had never in my life got so drunk.
I think we were drinking these drinks called "Jelly Beans". So I thought to
myself, "well I'm too wasted to party any more, I guess I'll drive back to
the base and go to sleep". Call it a night. So for the next 10-15 minutes,
I crawled along the ground to get to my car. Well, I got to my car, reached
up, unlocked the door, and used the steering wheel to pull myself up into
the drivers seat. I dropped a few drops of "eye drops" in my eyes to clear
them up a little, and started up the `ol Chevette. Drove 10 miles along
some country roads and then on to a 2 lane 55mph highway. I was doing
pretty good too. I was in my lane, never swerved and held the speed limit
perfectly. Got to the base. Pulled up to the gate guard and show him my ID
as he stood about 3-4 feet away, looking at my ID and me. Then proceeded to
drive the 3 miles on the cop-infested base to my barracks. By the time I
got to the parking lot, I totally forgot the last time I tried to walk I
couldn't, but was able to when I got out of the car. Another perfect
mission. I probably was 3-4 times over the legal limit.
So don't tell me what I can and can't do. That's my BEST story....There are
many more almost as good.
Oh yeah, I was in an accident last year. A idiot ran a Red Light in town
here, and hit the rear on my van while I was going through the intersection.
He was sober and not paying attention to the speed limit or the red light he
had. If I was 2 seconds slower in going through the intersection, I could
very well have been killed, since it was my side of the van he hit. He was
doing about 40 mph. Ignorance kills just as well. But you don't see anyone
in Jail for that.
Hawkman
From chip at PCC.COM Thu Feb 17 13:20:11 2000
From: chip at PCC.COM (Chip Hart)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:20:11 -0500
Subject: OFF: Drunk Driving
In-Reply-To: <003401bf7970$3cbbc560$d0a2bcd0@hawkwind> from "Stephan Spiegel"
at Feb 17, 2000 11:55:50 AM
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.132011.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Stephan Spiegel spoke:
> "well I'm too wasted to party any more, I guess I'll drive back to
> the base and go to sleep".
This is one of the dumbest things I've read on the Internet in
some time. And that's saying something.
> I was doing
> pretty good too. I was in my lane, never swerved and held the speed limit
> perfectly.
So...you couldn't even walk, yet you never swerved and held the
speed limit perfectly?
Ok. Sure. I'd laugh if this weren't so offensive.
> I probably was 3-4 times over the legal limit.
3-4x .08 or .10 puts you at comotose or dead in most cases. So,
you're either superhuman or a numbskull.
> So don't tell me what I can and can't do. That's my BEST story....There are
> many more almost as good.
Oh, great. Care to tell me where you live so I can make sure I
don't move there?
> Oh yeah, I was in an accident last year. A idiot ran a Red Light in town
> here, and hit the rear on my van while I was going through the intersection.
> He was sober and not paying attention to the speed limit or the red light he
> had. If I was 2 seconds slower in going through the intersection, I could
> very well have been killed, since it was my side of the van he hit. He was
> doing about 40 mph. Ignorance kills just as well. But you don't see anyone
> in Jail for that.
I hope this isn't an example of your sober reasoning.
--
Chip Hart * chip @ pcc.com
Physician's Computer Company * http://www.pcc.com/~chip
1 Main Street * Work:800-722-7708
Winooski, VT 05404 * Fax: 802-846-8178
From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Thu Feb 17 13:29:15 2000
From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 18:29:15 -0000
Subject: HW Review in Classic Rock
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.182915.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Far be it from me to kick this off again but:-)
The review in Classic Rock of Glasto 90 and Complete 79 includes
the phrase;
"Whichever hard-up former members...are pedalling these
atrociously recorded live tapes should be put to death immediately."
1* apiece and 79 only gets it for the reproduction of the tour
programme.
All abuse direct to Mick Wall at Classic Rock. Don't shoot the
messenger etc.
SAH
NP Ultimate Funkadelic
From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Feb 17 13:14:56 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:14:56 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.131456.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Then proceeded to
>drive the 3 miles on the cop-infested base to my barracks. By the time I
>got to the parking lot, I totally forgot the last time I tried to walk I
>couldn't, but was able to when I got out of the car. Another perfect
>mission. I probably was 3-4 times over the legal limit.
>
>So don't tell me what I can and can't do. That's my BEST story....There are
>many more almost as good.
There are tons of funny stories like that, but there are tons more tragic
ones too. The problem is the ability to reason whether you can or not
is also clouded. Statistics don't lie, alcohol is a huge factor in
fatal car crashes. If you want numbers, I'm sure your local MADD office
can supply you with them, along with personal accounts of tragedies.
Look, all I'm saying is what does it hurt to use caution? Make
arrangements before hand to get home by other means.
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Thu Feb 17 14:01:04 2000
From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:01:04 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.140104.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
That's the thing about freedom. One group thinks they should be free to
DO it. Another thinks they should be free OF it.
I say let the proprietors decide, and if the customers don't like it they
can
go to another place~
I will NOT go to a place that does not at least have a smoking AREA. And
when I quit smoking for two years (I started back 5 years ago,) I boycotted
the same places.
RJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Browne <Jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
>In message <3.0.6.32.20000216145025.00952760 at pop.sirius.com>, Doug
>Pearson <ceres at SIRIUS.COM> writes
>>That's the law here in California (no smoking indoors, even bars, clubs
and
>>concert halls).
>
>
>Land of the free.
>--
>Jon
From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Thu Feb 17 14:11:17 2000
From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:11:17 -0600
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.131117.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> Look, all I'm saying is what does it hurt to use caution? Make
> arrangements before hand to get home by other means.
I agree...It wasn't the best thing to do, but I've "grown-up" and
only drink once a year. And don't drive. I've got a Secret Clearance
now, and don't want to lose my job. I won't be able to buy as many
HW CD's then!
HM
From tclark at PETRONET.NET Thu Feb 17 14:09:22 2000
From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:09:22 -0600
Subject: OFF: Drunk Driving
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.130922.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Totally agree. Though guilty as well of having driven under the influence, along
with stories to tell, the thought that I could have killed someone is
terrifying. I used to brag about that sort of thing when I was in high school.
If someone is so hammered that they don't remember getting there, then anything is
possible if the circumstances are right (wrong), and it can happen to anybody no
matter how "hip" they are.. (sound like a mad mother, ey!) On the other hand,
I've been so stoned that driving 15 mph in a 50 mph zone also presented it's own
set of hazards until I looked at the speedometer and realized how slow I was
going.:).
Chip Hart wrote:
> Stephan Spiegel spoke:
> > "well I'm too wasted to party any more, I guess I'll drive back to
> > the base and go to sleep".
>
> This is one of the dumbest things I've read on the Internet in
> some time. And that's saying something.
>
> > I was doing
> > pretty good too. I was in my lane, never swerved and held the speed limit
> > perfectly.
>
> So...you couldn't even walk, yet you never swerved and held the
> speed limit perfectly?
>
> Ok. Sure. I'd laugh if this weren't so offensive.
>
> > I probably was 3-4 times over the legal limit.
>
> 3-4x .08 or .10 puts you at comotose or dead in most cases. So,
> you're either superhuman or a numbskull.
>
> > So don't tell me what I can and can't do. That's my BEST story....There are
> > many more almost as good.
>
> Oh, great. Care to tell me where you live so I can make sure I
> don't move there?
>
> > Oh yeah, I was in an accident last year. A idiot ran a Red Light in town
> > here, and hit the rear on my van while I was going through the intersection.
> > He was sober and not paying attention to the speed limit or the red light he
> > had. If I was 2 seconds slower in going through the intersection, I could
> > very well have been killed, since it was my side of the van he hit. He was
> > doing about 40 mph. Ignorance kills just as well. But you don't see anyone
> > in Jail for that.
>
> I hope this isn't an example of your sober reasoning.
>
> --
> Chip Hart * chip @ pcc.com
> Physician's Computer Company * http://www.pcc.com/~chip
> 1 Main Street * Work:800-722-7708
> Winooski, VT 05404 * Fax: 802-846-8178
From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Feb 17 14:30:07 2000
From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:30:07 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: <005001bf7979$57cfc0a0$b0c33ad0@tomb>; from sprawl@STARPOWER.NET
on Thu, Feb 17, 2000 at 02:01:04PM -0500
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.143007.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Thu, Feb 17, 2000 at 02:01:04PM -0500, Sprawl wrote:
> That's the thing about freedom. One group thinks they should be free to
> DO it. Another thinks they should be free OF it.
An interesting quirk of American politics is how small a
difference there is between the political poles. One of the
American Constitution's first two amendments is sacrosanct, but
the other is an obsolete relic of a bygone age. The only
squabble between far Right and far Left is: which amendment is
which?
--
| | /\
|-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com
| | /
to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of
ridicule. he was NOT a loser.
thank you, Mr. Schulz.
- Robert C. Mayo
From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Thu Feb 17 14:35:17 2000
From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:35:17 -0700
Subject: OFF: Drunk Driving
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.123517.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I have to say here, that being smart & letting someone like me (cab) drive ya home is
far safer & wayyyyy cheaper than going home in one of those cabs with the weird
toplight (light bar) . Policemen have a tendency to relieve you of driving privileges,
and using a cab to go to & from work DAILY is truly spendy, as well as the cost of a
DUI . Here in Boise, it's $3000.00 + loss of licence-on the first offense. Wrecking
ones transportation sux too.
Please, folx, use cabs or designated drivers. I'd REALLY prefer to be able to continue
talking with all of you!
Rock on!
Pam
--
Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton
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</__"Rockin Cabbie"__\o "THE INTERNET"
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From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Feb 17 14:04:37 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:04:37 -0500
Subject: Roadhawkfans (was hawkwind in new zealand)
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.140437.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Turning this driving thing into something else...
I take a lot of road trips. During which when I drive
I often subject my passengers to Hawkwind, BOC, Darxtar,
Brain Surgeons, etc. While on long road trips, there are
something that work better for me, others that don't. For
example, I very much like Pink Floyd, but a lot of it is
NOT the best stuff when tired and trying to stay focused
to the road.
Anyways, FWIW, my favorite stuff for long road trips:
"High Rise", of Hawklords Live.
"Night of the Hawks", various versions (used Golden void '69-'79)
"In the Presence" - Albert Bouchard, of Imaginos
"Spirit of the Age" - Hw, various versions, probably live '79
"Carpet Crawlers" - John Ford off Genesis Tribute album, "The Fox Lies Down"
"Master/Born to Go" - HW, off "Greasy Truckers Party"
"Death valley nights" - off Brain Surgeon's Malpractice
"(Then Came) the last days of May" - off BOC
"Moonglum" - HW, off Live Chronicles
"Echoes" - had to get one Floyd track on here.
This is at the moment. Anyways, its a great excuse to get people
to listen to stuff. Our road trip rules are driver listens to
what he wants. Of course, that backfired one year when one guy
put on cheesy spy novels read by some two-bit actor.
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Thu Feb 17 14:43:56 2000
From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:43:56 -0600
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.134356.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> An interesting quirk of American politics is how small a
> difference there is between the political poles. One of the
> American Constitution's first two amendments is sacrosanct, but
> the other is an obsolete relic of a bygone age. The only
> squabble between far Right and far Left is: which amendment is
> which?
What the heck are you talking about?
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 17 14:54:43 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:54:43 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.145443.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
RJ said...
>That's the thing about freedom. One group thinks they should be free to
>DO it. Another thinks they should be free OF it.
>
>I say let the proprietors decide, and if the customers don't like it they
>can go to another place~
Well, that's all fine and dandy for your local pubs and such, but that
doesn't really apply for concert halls. It's not like you have a choice on
where to see a band travelling across the country...they're only likely to
be in your city once, if at all! And most clubs/halls (outside of CA
anyway) do allow smoking, and so unless the band itself demands a smoke-free
hall (and I don't think there are many who do), it simply doesn't happen.
Personally, I've learned to tolerate it, and actually the thing I dislike
the most about it, is the stench my clothes emit the following morning.
(Esp. your coat, that you might like to wear without first having to air it
out for a week.) As bad as it is for your lungs, the awful smell of clothes
and furniture is really the most hideous thing about the habit. (Other than
the early death.) :) I know the smoker him/herself becomes oblivious to
the smell (I worked in a chemical plant for awhile, and so I know how that
works), but how a non-smoker can live around heavy smokers I can't imagine.
Keith H. (FAA)
From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Feb 17 14:04:05 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:04:05 EDT
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: <007401bf797f$56a62600$d0a2bcd0@hawkwind>
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.150405.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 17 Feb 00, at 13:43, Stephan Spiegel wrote:
> > An interesting quirk of American politics is how small a
> > difference there is between the political poles. One of the
> > American Constitution's first two amendments is sacrosanct, but the
> > other is an obsolete relic of a bygone age. The only squabble
> > between far Right and far Left is: which amendment is which?
>
> What the heck are you talking about?
He doesn't know! I <think> he might mean that there appears to be
little difference between the two 'major' political parties, and this is
somewhat true. Trust me, American politics runs the entie gamut
from far left to far right. Sadly, though, the only parties having a
meaningful following are the 2 big ones, and they are hopelessly
centrist, offering Americans little substantive choice. One can
always cast a 'protest' ballot...
theo
From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Feb 17 15:15:20 2000
From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:15:20 -0600
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: <200002171955.OAA15351@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.141520.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, K Henderson wrote:
:Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
:
:RJ said...
:
:>That's the thing about freedom. One group thinks they should be free to
:>DO it. Another thinks they should be free OF it.
:>
:>I say let the proprietors decide, and if the customers don't like it they
:>can go to another place~
:
:Well, that's all fine and dandy for your local pubs and such, but that
:doesn't really apply for concert halls. It's not like you have a choice on
:where to see a band travelling across the country...they're only likely to
:be in your city once, if at all! And most clubs/halls (outside of CA
:anyway) do allow smoking, and so unless the band itself demands a smoke-free
:hall (and I don't think there are many who do), it simply doesn't happen.
:Personally, I've learned to tolerate it, and actually the thing I dislike
:the most about it, is the stench my clothes emit the following morning.
:(Esp. your coat, that you might like to wear without first having to air it
:out for a week.) As bad as it is for your lungs, the awful smell of clothes
:and furniture is really the most hideous thing about the habit. (Other than
:the early death.) :) I know the smoker him/herself becomes oblivious to
:the smell (I worked in a chemical plant for awhile, and so I know how that
:works), but how a non-smoker can live around heavy smokers I can't imagine.
:
Not very well :(
I have the particular misfortune of being terribly allergic
to many things in their smoked form (cigarettes, cloves, marijuana, etc.)
Hard when I'm at Hawkwind concerts ;)
I tend to carry asthma stuff and have some emergency antihistamines when
I go.
I've only ever had to leave a concert once due to allergic attack.
so have some pity on us allergic folks :)
Arin
(who frequently wishes that people would use other methods to imbibe their
drugs of choice ;) )
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From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Thu Feb 17 15:20:54 2000
From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:20:54 -0600
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.142054.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>As bad as it is for your lungs,
I smoke, and my lung feels great!
> the awful smell of clothes
> and furniture is really the most hideous thing about the habit.
I smoke outside the house.
> (Other than the early death.) :)
Funny how all my family who doesn't smoke is dead, and my 90
year old grandma is still alive. She smokes a pack a day.
> I know the smoker him/herself becomes oblivious to
> the smell
Can't stand the smell, and don't smell like one.
>(I worked in a chemical plant for awhile, and so I know how that
> works),
OH ! There ya go...a chemical plant. I wanna work there! Where's
my life insurance policy?
>but how a non-smoker can live around heavy smokers I can't imagine.
Who says they have to? Move!
Freedom...what a concept!
HM
From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Feb 17 14:49:11 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:49:11 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.144911.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I know the smoker him/herself becomes oblivious to
>the smell (I worked in a chemical plant for awhile, and so I know how that
>works), but how a non-smoker can live around heavy smokers I can't imagine.
What's worse, in college I had a suitemate who was a heavy dipper.
Chewing tobacco. He was really hooked on the stuff, so bad that when
all else failed he'd recycle the stuff he spit out by putting it in
the fridge for awhile (when he had no cash).
Then there was the poker game where someone picked up the wrong glass
by mistake. ugh.
A year or two later he lived upstairs of some friends of mine, and
would as a regular habit empty a bucket over the balcony onto what
was a friend's porch. Almost as bad as a chamber pot. (I guess he
had enough cash by then so he didn't have to recycle)...
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Feb 17 15:33:26 2000
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:33:26 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: <200002172011.PAA11720@syr.edu>
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.153326.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Ted Jackson jr. wrote:
=> On 17 Feb 00, at 13:43, Stephan Spiegel wrote:
=>
=> > > An interesting quirk of American politics is how small a
=> > > difference there is between the political poles. One of the
=> > > American Constitution's first two amendments is sacrosanct, but the
=> > > other is an obsolete relic of a bygone age. The only squabble
=> > > between far Right and far Left is: which amendment is which?
=> >
=> > What the heck are you talking about?
=>
=> He doesn't know! I <think> he might mean that there appears to be
=> little difference between the two 'major' political parties, and this is
=> somewhat true. Trust me, American politics runs the entie gamut
=> from far left to far right. Sadly, though, the only parties having a
=> meaningful following are the 2 big ones, and they are hopelessly
=> centrist, offering Americans little substantive choice. One can
=> always cast a 'protest' ballot...
Far be it for me to interpret someone else's posting (after the bee
debacle), but to this addled noggin it seemed like he was saying that
the far Right and far Left couldn't decide which of the first two
amendments was sacrosant, and which one was an obsolete relic of a
bygone age. (E.g., far Right: keep guns and regulate speech; far Left:
protect speech and ban guns.)
Cheers,
Paul.
NP: Motorhead, _No Sleep 'Til Hammersmith_
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
--- Frank Vincent Zappa
From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Feb 17 16:01:34 2000
From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:01:34 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.21.0002171528001.27011-100000@gromit.dlib.vt.edu>;
from paul@GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU on Thu, Feb 17,
2000 at 03:33:26PM -0500
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.160134.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Thu, Feb 17, 2000 at 03:33:26PM -0500, Paul Mather wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Ted Jackson jr. wrote:
>
> => On 17 Feb 00, at 13:43, Stephan Spiegel wrote:
> =>
> => > [ Eric Siegerman wrote:]
> => > > An interesting quirk of American politics is how small a
> => > > difference there is between the political poles. One of the
> => > > American Constitution's first two amendments is sacrosanct, but the
> => > > other is an obsolete relic of a bygone age. The only squabble
> => > > between far Right and far Left is: which amendment is which?
> => >
> => > What the heck are you talking about?
My post was meant to be a followup to this:
That's the thing about freedom. One group thinks they should be free to
DO it. Another thinks they should be free OF it.
which I'd meant to quote in the process. I screwed up; sorry.
> Far be it for me to interpret someone else's posting (after the bee
> debacle), but to this addled noggin it seemed like he was saying that
> the far Right and far Left couldn't decide which of the first two
> amendments was sacrosant, and which one was an obsolete relic of a
> bygone age. (E.g., far Right: keep guns and regulate speech; far Left:
> protect speech and ban guns.)
Precisely. As it happens I'm with the Left on both of those
particular issues, but I find the irony highly amusing even so.
--
| | /\
|-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com
| | /
to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of
ridicule. he was NOT a loser.
thank you, Mr. Schulz.
- Robert C. Mayo
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 17 16:09:34 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:09:34 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.160934.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Stephan spake...
>> the awful smell of clothes
>> and furniture is really the most hideous thing about the habit.
>
>I smoke outside the house.
Naked?
>> (Other than the early death.) :)
>
>Funny how all my family who doesn't smoke is dead, and my 90
>year old grandma is still alive. She smokes a pack a day.
Funny that my Dad has terrible emphysema and can hardly walk up a flight of
stairs and he's only 67.
Is it just in America that we develop our public opinion (and in some cases
our laws...or perhaps that should be 'many') based on the 'anecdotal' or
'extreme' event? Or has that now gone global? I mean, really, you can
point to OJ, Rodney King, Elian Gonzalez, Monica, Okla City/WTC/Atlanta
bombings, Diallo shooting, Columbine, Waco, Len Bias' cocaine death (the
impulse that created the ridiculous minimum sentencing law), and three or
four other 'events,' and there you have 99% of the basis for all of our
'public opinion' and our politics. Never mind the other 299,999,950 people
in this country whose lives these laws affect.
I'm a firm believer in statistics, because...
Statistically, more people survive if they think only of themselves!
>> I know the smoker him/herself becomes oblivious to
>> the smell
>
>Can't stand the smell, and don't smell like one.
Is there a consensus vote on that one?
>>(I worked in a chemical plant for awhile, and so I know how that
>> works),
>
>OH ! There ya go...a chemical plant. I wanna work there!
You can't...it blew up a few years ago. I only worked there a year, and
because I was flat broke and needed the job. The cyanide gave me a
headache, and I couldn't stand the smell of THF (tetrahydrofuran). The
ether wasn't so bad, but it made it difficult to operate heavy machinery
afterwards. :) And allyl amine, what a lethal chemical that is!! Talk
about taking your breath away! [I'm afraid to say there are no jokes here.]
>>but how a non-smoker can live around heavy smokers I can't imagine.
>
>Who says they have to? Move!
I guess I was referring to couples, i.e., non-smokers who chose smokers as
'life partners.' And I didn't suggest a law against it...I just can't
figure out how they stand it.
Keith H. (FAA)
who still can't understand why the US didn't bomb North Carolina, since
those folks have been continually harboring a known terrorist in their midst
(whom the FBI still hasn't caught apparently), just like Afghanistan (or
whoever it was we bombed for similar reasons).
From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Thu Feb 17 16:32:41 2000
From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:32:41 -0600
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.153241.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Good reply Keith! Got a good chuckle out it!
Hawkman.
The moral of the story is, don't screw with the constitution
or the bill of rights. America isn't perfect, never will be,
but I still rather live here than anywhere in the world. Well,
maybe I might consider Denmark, or Norway or Holland.
They gotta lot of good looking blondes there, and I'm a
sucker for a blonde.
From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Feb 17 16:27:47 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:27:47 -0500
Subject: Hawkwindia
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.162747.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>The moral of the story is, don't screw with the constitution
>or the bill of rights. America isn't perfect, never will be,
>but I still rather live here than anywhere in the world. Well,
>maybe I might consider Denmark, or Norway or Holland.
>They gotta lot of good looking blondes there, and I'm a
>sucker for a blonde.
Actually, if we can just find the country with the world's
lowest popoulation, move all hawkfans there, we could make
"Master of the Universe" the national anthem, and pass laws
requiring the booking of hawkwind concerts, putting lemmy
on currency ("eh, lemmy a lemmy wouldya?"), and banning
Doug Smith from the borders of the nation. We could rename
it "Hawkwindia". Street names would be stuff like "chronoglide
skyway", "motorway ave", and "Calvert Road". Our nation
would be protected by the latest in sonic weaponry.
Lessee, no atlas handy, but should be pretty easy to figure
out.
Candidates:
1. Vatican City.
pro - really low population. Good location.
con - have to do someting about the church. Church of Hawkwind!
2. Greenland
pro - low population, but lots of land
no fear of vinyl records melting in the sun
potential 3-month long sun festival.
con - too cold.
95% of land under icecap
3. Tuvalu
pro - tiny pacific atoll with beaches
con - do they have power?
4. Kiribati (nation made up of Gilbert, Phoenix and Line islands)
pro - even more islands
con - way spread out. canoeing outriggers back from a show
would suck.
5. Channel Islands
pro - great location
con - requires somehow seceding from UK. However, given that
all hawkfans would be leaving, the remaining (anti-hawk)
factions (elton john, e.g.) would probably think that be
sufficient incentive to allow this.
6. Antarctica
pro - low population. see greenland
con - requires violating antarctic treaty.
7. St. Pierre & Miquelon (2 french isles off the coast of newfoundland)
pro - what the hell is france doing with two islands off the
coast of newfoundland, anyway?
con - Might have to deal with angry Quebe?ois. still pretty cold.
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Thu Feb 17 17:08:34 2000
From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:08:34 -0600
Subject: HW: Ridicule
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.160834.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Is everyone's copy of Ridicule turning from silver to gold?
I checked out mine the other day and it looks like it's
getting darker and darker. Hope it doesn't someday
refuse to play....
I'll be adding a new CD to the Hawkwind Discography, soon....
Pendragon's "The World".
I finally tracked down a copy with the Hawkwind Warrior Art
on the CD, but the Music is Pendragon on the CD.
Pretty cool.
Hawkman
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From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Thu Feb 17 18:33:53 2000
From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:33:53 -0600
Subject: Hawkwindia
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.173353.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Andrew A. Apold wrote:
> >The moral of the story is, don't screw with the constitution
> >or the bill of rights. America isn't perfect, never will be,
> >but I still rather live here than anywhere in the world. Well,
> >maybe I might consider Denmark, or Norway or Holland.
> >They gotta lot of good looking blondes there, and I'm a
> >sucker for a blonde.
>
> Actually, if we can just find the country with the world's
> lowest popoulation, move all hawkfans there, we could make
> "Master of the Universe" the national anthem, and pass laws
> requiring the booking of hawkwind concerts, putting lemmy
> on currency ("eh, lemmy a lemmy wouldya?"), and banning
> Doug Smith from the borders of the nation. We could rename
> it "Hawkwindia". Street names would be stuff like "chronoglide
> skyway", "motorway ave", and "Calvert Road". Our nation
> would be protected by the latest in sonic weaponry.
>
> Lessee, no atlas handy, but should be pretty easy to figure
> out.
>
> Candidates:
>
> 1. Vatican City.
> pro - really low population. Good location.
> con - have to do someting about the church. Church of Hawkwind!
>
> 2. Greenland
> pro - low population, but lots of land
> no fear of vinyl records melting in the sun
> potential 3-month long sun festival.
> con - too cold.
> 95% of land under icecap
>
> 3. Tuvalu
> pro - tiny pacific atoll with beaches
> con - do they have power?
>
> 4. Kiribati (nation made up of Gilbert, Phoenix and Line islands)
> pro - even more islands
> con - way spread out. canoeing outriggers back from a show
> would suck.
>
> 5. Channel Islands
> pro - great location
> con - requires somehow seceding from UK. However, given that
> all hawkfans would be leaving, the remaining (anti-hawk)
> factions (elton john, e.g.) would probably think that be
> sufficient incentive to allow this.
>
> 6. Antarctica
> pro - low population. see greenland
> con - requires violating antarctic treaty.
>
> 7. St. Pierre & Miquelon (2 french isles off the coast of newfoundland)
> pro - what the hell is france doing with two islands off the
> coast of newfoundland, anyway?
> con - Might have to deal with angry Quebe?ois. still pretty cold.
>
> "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
> ===============
> Andrew Apold
How about doing it Scientology-style and getting a giant cruise ship, or
possibly an oil rig?
From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Feb 17 17:35:51 2000
From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:35:51 -0500
Subject: HW: Chrisma Psi Power single
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.173551.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi Hawkfans,
During my lunch break today I stopped by a used record shop and spotted
this record. It comes in a white sleeve and the record has Psi Power on
both sides. There was also a sticker on the sleeve about it being a promo
record. They were selling it for $7.00. Is this fairly rare, or something
you'd find in just about any decent record shop?
If anyone's interested, I can pick it up tomorrow or Saturday. The sleeve
is a little discolored but the vinyl is in vg condition as far as I could
tell. If anyone's interested, just send me a private e-mail and we can
work out compensation. (I prefer a trade to $.)
Then again, maybe I should buy it and put it on ebay...heh heh. With the
prices HW items seem to have been earning, it probably wouldn't matter if
the record was rare or not! ;-)
Brian
ob being on/off topic> I'm a non smoker, non dipper, non Web designer, non
drunk driver who yearns to move to Hawkwindia once Andrew founds it and who
once drove from Rochester to Boston (about 7hrs) to see Stereolab and visit
a buddy of mine...I think that about covers it. :-)
From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Thu Feb 17 17:46:49 2000
From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:46:49 -0600
Subject: HW: Chrisma Psi Power single
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.164649.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
There are more copies of "Hawklords 25 Years On" promo's
than the regular issue LP's. Tell him he'll be arrested if he
tries to sell it, and maybe he'll give it to you free.
From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Feb 17 18:33:00 2000
From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:33:00 -0600
Subject: [off] audiobooks (was Re: Roadhawkfans (was hawkwind in new
zealand))
In-Reply-To: <200002171904.OAA19299@issfire2.co.palm-beach.fl.us>
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.173300.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Andrew A. Apold wrote:
:Subject: Roadhawkfans (was hawkwind in new zealand)
:
[snip roadtrip song list]
:This is at the moment. Anyways, its a great excuse to get people
:to listen to stuff. Our road trip rules are driver listens to
:what he wants. Of course, that backfired one year when one guy
:put on cheesy spy novels read by some two-bit actor.
hey....cheesy spy audiobooks can be great fun! audiobooks, in general,
are wonderful things...particularly since I can't read when driving :)
(...and listening to roger zelazny read his amber chronicles just
rocked. and his rendition of _A Night in the Lonesome October_
was fantastic.)
Arin
(now if only I could get hawkwind to provide background music for
some of 'em, life would be perfect while roadtripping.)
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From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Feb 17 18:49:35 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:49:35 -0000
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: <002a01bf798e$86f540c0$0100007f@hawkwind>
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.234935.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> The moral of the story is, don't screw with the constitution
> or the bill of rights. America isn't perfect, never will be,
> but I still rather live here than anywhere in the world. Well,
> maybe I might consider Denmark, or Norway or Holland.
> They gotta lot of good looking blondes there, and I'm a
> sucker for a blonde.
How many of these countries have you visited? Or are you talking out of
your arse?
After the "proud to drive drunk" comment, I'd lie low for a while if I were
you.
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Thu Feb 17 19:06:47 2000
From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 18:06:47 -0600
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.180647.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> After the "proud to drive drunk" comment, I'd lie low for a while if I
were
> you.
OK, sorry... ( I know I should have kept my big mouth shut)
From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Thu Feb 17 19:23:53 2000
From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 19:23:53 EST
Subject: a spy among us/Deep Purple without us
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.192353.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
the deep purple mk 1 remasters all come out on feb 22nd.
rmayo
From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Thu Feb 17 19:51:53 2000
From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 18:51:53 -0600
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand way off?
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.185153.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
hmmmm, did I just look at about 30 messages that have nothing to do with
hawkwind?
I know a lot a people like to "chat" on the list, and that's just fine.
Use the appropriate filter prefix, pretty please. One or two messages is
no big deal, but this many makes me want to drink and drive.
I know I didn't use "off" here, but I wanted to make sure the posters
see this message.
From crow at ASCENT.NET Thu Feb 17 20:13:14 2000
From: crow at ASCENT.NET (crow)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:13:14 -0500
Subject: informal survey
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.201314.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Some of you won't remember me and others will be happy I'm still
alive.
OK... This has probably been asked many, many times on this list
but I'm going to ask it again (just out of nosey-ness, mind you).
Out of whatever band you joined this list for (BOC, HW, tBS), what's
one cover tune you would die to hear them do?
As far as I'm concerned, there's a song called -BITCH- done by an
'80s band called WIDOW that had to be written for tBS (Torgo will
back me up on this).
This is for the Ghost in the Ruins: Kings X HAS to do a cover of
Rare Earth's -Celebrate-.
crow (keep your eyes open for Dick2k, coming soon)
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From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Thu Feb 17 20:24:33 2000
From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:24:33 -0800
Subject: informal survey
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.172433.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Well, I hadn't really thought about it, will have to do that
before I give a real answer.
But...
I *did* have a dream in which I heard Dave & Co. covering,
of all things, the "Smelly Cat" song from Friends.
A spacey extended version, of course..... :-)
scorch
(yes, that's pretty bizarre, even for me, even for the Hawks...)
From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Feb 17 20:53:53 2000
From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:53:53 -0500
Subject: HW: Chrisma Psi Power single
In-Reply-To: <009201bf7998$e1f6c8e0$0100007f@hawkwind>
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.205353.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>There are more copies of "Hawklords 25 Years On" promo's
>than the regular issue LP's. Tell him he'll be arrested if he
>tries to sell it, and maybe he'll give it to you free.
How disappointing. That was the only HW album they had in the whole store
too. :-( Maybe I'll have better luck at the next store I'm planning to
check out.
Brian
From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Feb 17 21:28:22 2000
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:28:22 +0000
Subject: OFF: Pink Fairies
In-Reply-To: <023501bf6d89$6cdeef80$3d01a8c0@tpd.co.uk>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.022822.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Richard Lockwood wrote:
> I'm sure this was discussed a couple of years ago, but... is Kings of
> Oblivion out on CD?
Well, I have a copy, so I'd say so: Raceway Records, RWY001CD. I'm
assuming that this is a special label but it doesn't seem to have done the
two previous ones as I was hoping :-( Yours,
Jon
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From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Feb 17 21:26:15 2000
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:26:15 +0000
Subject: Off: Lemmy in The Wire
In-Reply-To: <1SGt8NA4HDm4Ew$4@comics.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.022615.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Wed, 2 Feb 2000, Jon Browne wrote:
> In message <3.0.6.32.20000202131143.0079dab0 at mail.clara.net>, Chris
> Warburton <desdinova at EARTHLING.NET> writes
> >Pink Fairies' "Teenage Rebel" (from "The Pink Fairies Master Series" -
> >anybody know what this is?)
>
> Cheap comp. recently from Polydor, stuff from Never Never Land, Kings of
> Oblivion and Bunch of Sweeties. ?9.99 Remastered. Essential if you
> ain't got this stuff already.
Ooh. Anyone tell me what this has on it that _Pink Fairies_
doesn't, so I can judge its essentialness? Cheers. Yours,
Jon
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From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 17 23:17:49 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:17:49 -0500
Subject: HW: Review in Classic Rock
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.231749.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
SAH said...
>Far be it from me to kick this off again but:-)
>
>The review in Classic Rock of Glasto 90 and Complete 79 includes
>the phrase;
>
>"Whichever hard-up former members...are pedalling these
>atrociously recorded live tapes should be put to death immediately."
>
>1* apiece and 79 only gets it for the reproduction of the tour
>programme.
>
>All abuse direct to Mick Wall at Classic Rock. Don't shoot the
>messenger etc.
I dunno...perhaps it's just as well. Anybody that has to read a magazine
review before deciding whether to buy a HW disc is not one of 'us'. And if
they're not so much of a HW fan, best for them not to start (or restart)
their journey into Hawkwindia via these releases, eh? As long as the word
gets out there that there is some other (recent) output there for the
choosing (if they can actually *find* them), IYA and hopefully some more
things like the Family Tree and some kind of new studio effort. I've just
now gotten the three Voiceprints, and I fall somewhere between the
extremes...I'm not entirely happy with either of these two, esp. Glastonbury
(whose dog is that?!?!), but then they're not as awful as I expected.
Complete '79 sounds like it would have decent sound if it just didn't have
that 'tonal phasing' (what do you call that? I'm no audiophile.) - was that
a recording problem, or something that happens to tapes over time?
Now, the 1982 thingy I quite like...except that *some* of Nik's playing
leaves a little to be desired (what *IS* that sound at the beginning of
"Magnu" and couldn't somebody have filtered that out?). For whatever
reason, the early 80s were (IMHO) Nik's 'weird' period where he just didn't
fit with HW (to put it lightly), esp. juxtaposed with Huwy. But some of his
parts come across pretty well, whereas others seem over-the-top and just way
too high in the mix. In "Waiting for Tomorrow," we strangely see both the
good and bad of Nik's playing in the same song. Strange. I liked Moorcock's
contributions here, and I guess that's why they chose this gig to release,
as I think Bernhard suggested.
So what did Classic Rock say about Live 1982? Certainly it should've got
another star or two!
Keith H. (FAA)
P.S. I think the "Solitary Mind Games" on Live 1982 is the best version to
date, Nik's flute a great addition to that track. I like the Magnu/Dust of
Time pairing/seguetization also.
P.P.S. Apologies to Dan W. and all for being so bored today as to get too
heavily involved in crazy off-topic rants, and for not changing the header
(as I usu. try to do in those cases).
P.P.P.S. Congrats to Brian H. for the most inventive post of the day, a
perfect synthesis of the current BOC-L (un)consciousness.
From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Fri Feb 18 00:27:23 2000
From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:27:23 -0600
Subject: informal survey
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.232723.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
crow wrote:
> Some of you won't remember me and others will be happy I'm
> stillalive. OK... This has probably been asked many, many times on
> this listbut I'm going to ask it again (just out of nosey-ness, mind
> you). Out of whatever band you joined this list for (BOC, HW, tBS),
> what'sone cover tune you would die to hear them do? As far as I'm
> concerned, there's a song called -BITCH- done by an'80s band called
> WIDOW that had to be written for tBS (Torgo willback me up on
> this). This is for the Ghost in the Ruins: Kings X HAS to do a cover
> ofRare Earth's -Celebrate-. crow (keep your eyes open for Dick2k,
> coming soon)
Nik Turner and Lemmy covering "I'm a Believer" by the Monkees! Now
that's awful.
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From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 17 23:35:14 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:35:14 -0500
Subject: Hawkwindia
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.233514.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
AA said...
>Actually, if we can just find the country with the world's
>lowest popoulation, move all hawkfans there, we could make
>We could rename it "Hawkwindia".
>Candidates:
>
>2. Greenland
> pro - low population, but lots of land
> no fear of vinyl records melting in the sun
> potential 3-month long sun festival.
> con - too cold.
> 95% of land under icecap
Hey, Greenland is my favourite place in the world...flying over the
Jakobshavn glacier into Illulassat on Disko Bay cannot be matched for scenery.
And there's nothing like listening to Hawkwind tapes on your
walkman/headphones while camping on the Greenland Ice Sheet, and having the
music accompanied by the amazing (loud) sounds of katabatic winds blowing
over your tent. Actually, it was more dramatic in the Himalayas, as there
it's dark at night and you feel 'smaller.'
Greenland is also the most ancient of all land masses, rocks as old as 3.8
billion years...certainly appropriate ground for Hawkwindia to claim.
The main downside to Greenland is that the beer is really expensive. Well,
at least the beer that comes from Denmark (Tuborg)...the beer at the
American Thule base is really cheap (they have different priorities there),
but we'd have to kick them out anyway. I suppose we'd brew our own and call
it The Golden Brew or Kadu Lager.
My vote would be for Heard Island, in the southern Indian Ocean. Nobody has
ever really lived there for any great length of time, and often times, it
goes several years without ever being set foot upon by humans. There are
several downsides, like the worst weather on the planet, and the fact that
the (very small) island is an active volcano (Big Ben). The Australians
administer the island, so we'd have to have the OzHawks put in a claim with
the gov't down under. And it's considered a national park to them as well
as a World Heritage site. But I'm convinced that the thousands of penguins
that live there could all be made into serious Hawkwind fans in no time.
Hardly any bands ever tour there.
Keith H. (FAA)
P.S. I'm hoping to go to Heard Is. within the next five years or so, so I
could perhaps put in a claim for Hawkwindia if that happens. :)
From flossbac at NLCI.COM Thu Feb 17 23:35:40 2000
From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:35:40 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.233540.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> After the "proud to drive drunk" comment, I'd lie low for a while if I
were
> you.
Yeah, I'd have to say that driving drunk is absolutely indefensible..... as
is racism......or homophobia......
John Majka
From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Thu Feb 17 23:56:10 2000
From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:56:10 EST
Subject: informal survey
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.235610.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
BOC (w/al & joe, who's fantasy is this, anyway...) covering BLOODROCK's
'DOA'! vox: e. bloom.
or--
HAWKWIND (lem era, o'course) doing AMBOY DUKES' 'JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF
YOUR MIND'
well, duh....
not holding breath
rmayo
From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Feb 16 23:55:09 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 23:55:09 -0500
Subject: [off] audiobooks (was Re: Roadhawkfans (was hawkwind in new
zealand))
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.10.10002171729110.11969-100000@harper.uchicago. edu>
Message-ID: <WED.16.FEB.2000.235509.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>(...and listening to roger zelazny read his amber chronicles just
>rocked.
Do you know where this is available? I have been looking for this!
I normally don't do audio books, but Zelazny is my favorite author...
(if he did a version of Lord of Light, that would be must-have)...
=============================
"To dwell within Samsara, however, is to
be subject to the works of those mighty
among dreamers."
- Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light"
Andrew Apold
From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Feb 17 00:36:15 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 00:36:15 -0500
Subject: informal survey
In-Reply-To: <2f.1a68fbf.25de2aea@aol.com>
Message-ID: <THU.17.FEB.2000.003615.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 11:56 PM 2/17/2000 EST, Robert C. Mayo wrote:
>BOC (w/al & joe, who's fantasy is this, anyway...) covering BLOODROCK's
>'DOA'! vox: e. bloom.
>or--
>HAWKWIND (lem era, o'course) doing AMBOY DUKES' 'JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF
>YOUR MIND'
>well, duh....
Hawkwind covering BOC's The Great Sun Jester.
BOC covering Mr T. Experience's "T-Shirt Commercial"
TBS covering Needle gun.... oh, wait, we already got that.
=============================
"To dwell within Samsara, however, is to
be subject to the works of those mighty
among dreamers."
- Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light"
Andrew Apold
From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Feb 18 01:15:43 2000
From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:15:43 EST
Subject: HW?: Hawkwindia
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.011543.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/17/00 8:36:08 PM Pacific Standard Time,
henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes:
> Keith H. (FAA)
>
> P.S. I'm hoping to go to Heard Is. within the next five years or so, so I
> could perhaps put in a claim for Hawkwindia if that happens. :)
>
Sounds like a good idea, but since when did any number of Hawkfans ever agree
on anything, whether it be best Hawkwind album, Smoker's Rights or Drunk
Driving?? And then to suppose we could all co-exist on a tiny island...
...plus there's the problem of the hawkboy-hawkgirl ratio. :)
Chuck
From BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Fri Feb 18 02:26:28 2000
From: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 07:26:28 +0000
Subject: MP3
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.072628.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
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From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Fri Feb 18 03:03:44 2000
From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:03:44 -0700
Subject: Roadhawkfans (was hawkwind in new zealand)
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.010344.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I do this as well-daily!!! Driving cab with the benefit of a moderate CD
kollection (365 & growing) and a 12-disc changer in my cab, I do my best to
introduce my guests to new & wonderful tunes!!!!
Tonite's Menu was:
IQ : Subterrania
Jethro Tull: A little Light Music
Loreena McKennit" Book of Secrets
Solaris: Martian Chronicles
Ozric: Erpland
Camel: Rajaz (New & very highly recommended!!!!)
Hawkwind: California Brainstorm
Rush: Hold Your Fire
Legendary Pink Dots : Hallway of the Gods
Eloy: Ocean 2 (fantastic)
and last but not by any means least:
Jean-Luc Ponty: Storytelling
Interesting mix, huh?
ROck on!!
Pam
"Andrew A. Apold" wrote:
> Turning this driving thing into something else...
>
> I take a lot of road trips. During which when I drive
> I often subject my passengers to Hawkwind, BOC, Darxtar,
> Brain Surgeons, etc. While on long road trips, there are
> something that work better for me, others that don't. For
> example, I very much like Pink Floyd, but a lot of it is
> NOT the best stuff when tired and trying to stay focused
> to the road.
>
> Anyways, FWIW, my favorite stuff for long road trips:
>
> "High Rise", of Hawklords Live.
> "Night of the Hawks", various versions (used Golden void '69-'79)
> "In the Presence" - Albert Bouchard, of Imaginos
> "Spirit of the Age" - Hw, various versions, probably live '79
> "Carpet Crawlers" - John Ford off Genesis Tribute album, "The Fox Lies Down"
> "Master/Born to Go" - HW, off "Greasy Truckers Party"
> "Death valley nights" - off Brain Surgeon's Malpractice
> "(Then Came) the last days of May" - off BOC
> "Moonglum" - HW, off Live Chronicles
> "Echoes" - had to get one Floyd track on here.
>
> This is at the moment. Anyways, its a great excuse to get people
> to listen to stuff. Our road trip rules are driver listens to
> what he wants. Of course, that backfired one year when one guy
> put on cheesy spy novels read by some two-bit actor.
>
> "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
> ===============
> Andrew Apold
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From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Fri Feb 18 03:10:19 2000
From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 01:10:19 -0700
Subject: MP3
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.011019.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
you're making me drool. :) :) I'm short SEVERAL Hawkdiscs for my
Kollection!!
Pam
linuxchaos wrote:
> So I'm staying up night after night putting albums on MP3. I rip them at
> 64kbps and that way (CD quality) we can fit 30+ albums per each CD.
>
> I put my 120 Hawk albums on mp3 do you think we should swap them?
> I buy all Hawkwind and related releases (lucky for me eh?) I think that
> between us it should be ok as a lot of these are deleted etc.
>
> The end of the music business?
--
Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton
_____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace
</__"Rockin Cabbie"__\o "THE INTERNET"
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From BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Fri Feb 18 03:42:47 2000
From: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:42:47 +0000
Subject: MP3
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.084247.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
[Message 038883 deleted by moderator at the author's request]
From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Fri Feb 18 05:41:33 2000
From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:41:33 -0000
Subject: HW: Covers
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.104133.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I'd love to hear a 'spaced-out' version of White Rabbits, J Airplane.
Apart from that any new Hawks will do for me...
Anybody doing Ozrics tonight in Derby ?
Cheers,
Mark
From drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Feb 18 06:21:54 2000
From: drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM (Torgo Sedler)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 03:21:54 PST
Subject: informal survey
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.032154.PST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Glad to see you're alive Crow-man!
Song I'd most like to hear tBS do a cover of is Monster Magnet's "19
Witches". It just oozes with tBS quirkiness and with Al on vocals it would
be a real showstopper live.
Also- totally agree on the Rare Earth/KIng's X cover. Sheeeoot, whenever I
hear that song now (ever since you mentioned it to me) in my mind I sort of
already hear it AS King's X.
This one may sound odd- but I'd like to hear BOC do a covr of a song by Ten
Year's After. You know it, it's that one TYA song that gets a buttload of
radioplay, that whole "I'd love to change the world" thing. I'd like to hear
Buck Dharma just shine through on this one, both on vocals and on guitar. It
would be a departure for BOC, but what the hey.
Anyway, back to lurking.
T-dog
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From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Feb 18 04:17:06 2000
From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:17:06 +0000
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: <003401bf7970$3cbbc560$d0a2bcd0@hawkwind>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.091706.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In message <003401bf7970$3cbbc560$d0a2bcd0 at hawkwind>, Stephan Spiegel
<spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET> writes
>Ignorance kills just as well.
Driving 2 ton of metal when, by your own admission, you're so smashed
your feet won't obey your commands, is consummate ignorance.
--
Jon
From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Fri Feb 18 06:53:39 2000
From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:53:39 -0000
Subject: Covers
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.115339.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
The Damned did a wonderful version of White Rabbits, back in 1981!
Top band!
Guy T.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Lee [mailto:MLee at ESPARTO.ORG]
Sent: 18 February 2000 10:42
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
Subject: HW: Covers
I'd love to hear a 'spaced-out' version of White Rabbits, J
Airplane.
Apart from that any new Hawks will do for me...
Anybody doing Ozrics tonight in Derby ?
Cheers,
Mark
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 18 07:40:21 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:40:21 GMT
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: Stephan Spiegel's message of Thu, 17 Feb 2000 11:55:50 -0600
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.124021.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Stephan Spiegel writes:
[Story of truly idiotic drunk driving...]
The thing you're missing here is that it's just probability at work. Out
of a couple of hundred drink drivers, one of them is going to cause harm
to someone else. It's a roll of the dice as to who, but the bway I see
it, they're all guilty of reckless endangerment and partially guilty of
manslaughter.
Unfortunately in our society, they're tolerated to much and tyou can
kill someone with a car and get a fine where you'd get life in jail if
you did it with a knife or gun. Personally I hope that changes and
manslaughter with a car gets life, with reckless endangerment getting at
least a year in jail and a lifetime driving ban.
Sorry if it makes me look judgemental from your point of view, but from
where I'm sitting, you're psychologically unfit to pilot any vehicle
more powerful than a tricycle.
FoFP
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 18 07:44:30 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:44:30 GMT
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: Stephan Spiegel's message of Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:43:56 -0600
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.124430.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Stephan Spiegel writes:
> > An interesting quirk of American politics is how small a
> > difference there is between the political poles. One of the
> > American Constitution's first two amendments is sacrosanct, but
> > the other is an obsolete relic of a bygone age. The only
> > squabble between far Right and far Left is: which amendment is
> > which?
>
> What the heck are you talking about?
He's saying that one set of freedom-haters want to ban free speech and
another set want to ban self-defence, whereas the real Americans had the
wisdom to ban banning both.
FoFP
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 18 07:48:39 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:48:39 GMT
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: Stephan Spiegel's message of Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:20:54 -0600
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.124839.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Stephan Spiegel writes:
> >As bad as it is for your lungs,
>
> I smoke, and my lung feels great!
My partner works a cancer ward. One of the worst things I've heard is of
the smokers in there who've had a hole drilled into their windpipe so
that they can continue breathing. Most of 'em put cigarettes into the
platic tube attached to the hole so that they continue to smoke.
FoFP
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 18 07:52:09 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:52:09 GMT
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: K Henderson's message of Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:09:34 -0500
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.125209.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
K Henderson writes:
> Is it just in America that we develop our public opinion (and in some
> cases our laws...or perhaps that should be 'many') based on the
> 'anecdotal' or 'extreme' event?
No. In the UK we banned anything bar BB pistols because one lunatic shot
sixteen kids in Scotland after a whole town ran a two decade campaign to
drive him crazy.
Of course we'd already pretty much banned self-defence with anything
other than harsh language a long time prior to that.
FoFP
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 18 07:54:18 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:54:18 GMT
Subject: Hawkwindia
In-Reply-To: Andrew A. Apold's message of Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:27:47 -0500
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.125418.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> Actually, if we can just find the country with the world's
> lowest popoulation, move all hawkfans there, we could make
> "Master of the Universe" the national anthem, and pass laws
> requiring the booking of hawkwind concerts, putting lemmy
> on currency ("eh, lemmy a lemmy wouldya?"), and banning
> Doug Smith from the borders of the nation. We could rename
> it "Hawkwindia". Street names would be stuff like "chronoglide
> skyway", "motorway ave", and "Calvert Road". Our nation
> would be protected by the latest in sonic weaponry.
> Candidates:
> 1. Vatican City.
> 2. Greenland
> 3. Tuvalu
> 4. Kiribati (nation made up of Gilbert, Phoenix and Line islands)
> 5. Channel Islands
> 6. Antarctica
> 7. St. Pierre & Miquelon (2 french isles off the coast of newfoundland)
But, you forgot: Fernando Poo!
FoFP
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 18 07:56:28 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:56:28 GMT
Subject: Hawkwindia
In-Reply-To: Sen. Volstead's message of Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:33:53 -0600
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.125628.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sen. Volstead writes:
[Hawkwindia...]
> How about doing it Scientology-style and getting a giant cruise ship, or
> possibly an oil rig?
So would the crew be twelve year old girls dressed is sailor uniforms?
Mike "For some reason Scientologists don't use that in advertising" Holmes
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 18 07:57:25 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:57:25 GMT
Subject: HW: Chrisma Psi Power single
In-Reply-To: Brian Halligan's message of Thu, 17 Feb 2000 17:35:51 -0500
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.125725.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Brian Halligan writes:
> Hi Hawkfans,
>
> During my lunch break today I stopped by a used record shop and spotted
> this record. It comes in a white sleeve and the record has Psi Power on
> both sides. There was also a sticker on the sleeve about it being a promo
> record. They were selling it for $7.00. Is this fairly rare, or something
> you'd find in just about any decent record shop?
It's fairly rear and that's a good price. There's a 7" version and a 12"
version.
FoFP
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 18 08:02:03 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:02:03 GMT
Subject: Hawkwindia
In-Reply-To: K Henderson's message of Thu, 17 Feb 2000 23:35:14 -0500
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.130203.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
K Henderson writes:
>
> P.S. I'm hoping to go to Heard Is. within the next five years or so, so I
> could perhaps put in a claim for Hawkwindia if that happens. :)
You could make a double-headed-hawk flag to plant...
FoFP
From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Feb 18 08:01:06 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:01:06 -0500
Subject: HW?: Hawkwindia
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.080106.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>Sounds like a good idea, but since when did any number of Hawkfans ever agree
>on anything, whether it be best Hawkwind album, Smoker's Rights or Drunk
>Driving?? And then to suppose we could all co-exist on a tiny island...
>...plus there's the problem of the hawkboy-hawkgirl ratio. :)
true, true. Relax, we got it handled. A well-timed sonic attack on
the scientology flotilla will produce enough plunder to make up the
difference.
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Feb 18 08:01:06 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:01:06 -0500
Subject: MP3
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.080106.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>So I'm staying up night after night putting albums on MP3. I rip them at
>64kbps and that way (CD quality) we can fit 30+ albums per each CD.
64bps is NOT CD quality, you need to go to 128 to get that. I usually
cut mine at 96, below that it starts to sound "tinny" to me.
>I put my 120 Hawk albums on mp3 do you think we should swap them?
>I buy all Hawkwind and related releases (lucky for me eh?) I think that
>between us it should be ok as a lot of these are deleted etc.
>
>The end of the music business?
Well, the music industry was starting to think so.
Already there is a cd-rom-based portable MP3 player coming out. Yes, it
has moving parts, so loses a lot of the benefit of the memory-based ones,
but it also is very usable with the stuff you are burning.
I don't have one of those, still have my PMP300, which can only hold about
45 minutes of stuff at a time. I use it for rollerblading.
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Fri Feb 18 08:59:06 2000
From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:59:06 -0500
Subject: OFF: Hawkwind in New Zealand way off?
In-Reply-To: <38AC97A9.CAF89E0D@uswest.net>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.085906.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Ditto!
Plus when did this group suddenly become the PC Police?? Those who live in
grass houses should not stow thrones, or something like that.
Lets stick to the music!
Michael S. Habiby
++++++++++++++++++
Dan Witt intelligently commented:
hmmmm, did I just look at about 30 messages that have nothing to do with
hawkwind?
I know a lot a people like to "chat" on the list, and that's just fine.
Use the appropriate filter prefix, pretty please. One or two messages is
no big deal, but this many makes me want to drink and drive.
I know I didn't use "off" here, but I wanted to make sure the posters
see this message.
From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Feb 18 08:30:03 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:30:03 -0500
Subject: Hawkwindia
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.083003.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>K Henderson writes:
>>
>> P.S. I'm hoping to go to Heard Is. within the next five years or so, so I
>> could perhaps put in a claim for Hawkwindia if that happens. :)
>
>You could make a double-headed-hawk flag to plant...
Make sure you plant it atop Big Ben.
can we say "Hawk island"?
and from the weather description, I gather it's pretty windy.
Now, I don't suppose any hawks live there.... ospreys? any
birds of prey? frigate birds? I don't suppose Penguins could
pass for hawks... I mean, they do eat fish, that makes them a
bird of prey, doesn't it?
A picture of our future home (and a map) is at:
http://www.antdiv.gov.au/stations/heard/
Hey... it's like permanently covered in ice, over 90% of it...
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Feb 18 09:12:57 2000
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:12:57 -0500
Subject: MP3
In-Reply-To: <38AD0606.5C9F6BF6@netscapeonline.co.uk>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.091257.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, linuxchaos wrote:
=> So which do you want?
=>
=> Cliff & Pam Wheaton wrote:
=>
=> > you're making me drool. :) :) I'm short SEVERAL Hawkdiscs for my
=> > Kollection!!
=> > Pam
=> >
=> > linuxchaos wrote:
=> >
=> > > So I'm staying up night after night putting albums on MP3. I rip them at
=> > > 64kbps and that way (CD quality) we can fit 30+ albums per each CD.
=> > >
=> > > I put my 120 Hawk albums on mp3 do you think we should swap them?
=> > > I buy all Hawkwind and related releases (lucky for me eh?) I think that
=> > > between us it should be ok as a lot of these are deleted etc.
=> > >
=> > > The end of the music business?
Um... aren't you supposed to be at least a little bit discreet when
doing this sort of thing? I mean, it must be a bit of a poke in the eye
when you read a mailing list where folks are openly swapping your
officially released product. (Yes, Hawkwind do---leastways Kris Tait
does---appear to read/post to this mailing list.) I mean, you are
talking about *official releases*, not live audience recordings, here.
(It's one thing to "beat the boots," but entirely another to "rob the
retirement plan.";)
In future, I suggest you spare their feelings and arrange this
apparently "ok"/"between us" free redistribution of their back catalogue
via PRIVATE e-mail.
Lastly, just what is your definition of "CD quality?" At 64 Kb/s, you
must have one hell of a lousy CD player... >;-)
Cheers,
Paul.
NP: Frank Zappa, _Shut Up 'N' Play Yer Guitar_
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
--- Frank Vincent Zappa
From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Fri Feb 18 10:59:09 2000
From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:59:09 -0600
Subject: Hawkwindia
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.095909.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
M Holmes wrote:
> Sen. Volstead writes:
>
> [Hawkwindia...]
>
> > How about doing it Scientology-style and getting a giant cruise ship, or
> > possibly an oil rig?
>
> So would the crew be twelve year old girls dressed is sailor uniforms?
>
> Mike "For some reason Scientologists don't use that in advertising" Holmes
I didn't know that! ...sort of a "Sailor Moon" thing. The Sea-Org doesn't
still exist, does it?
From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Feb 18 10:40:01 2000
From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:40:01 -0600
Subject: [off] audiobooks (was Re: Roadhawkfans (was hawkwind in new
zealand))
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000216235509.01313c50@flite.net>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.094001.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Andrew Apold wrote:
:Subject: Re: [off] audiobooks (was Re: Roadhawkfans (was hawkwind in new
zealand))
:
:>(...and listening to roger zelazny read his amber chronicles just
:>rocked.
:
:Do you know where this is available? I have been looking for this!
:
:I normally don't do audio books, but Zelazny is my favorite author...
:
:(if he did a version of Lord of Light, that would be must-have)...
Andrew,
They are available from sunset productions...I have the number at home,
I can send it to you.
Or you can get 'em online at amazon.com and other such places (search
for "zelazny audio")
If none of those pan out (if they are completely out of print), then
let me know, and I'll send you copies :)
Arin
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From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 18 11:10:58 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:10:58 GMT
Subject: OFF: scientologists and 12 year old WRENs
In-Reply-To: Sen. Volstead's message of Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:59:09 -0600
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.161058.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sen. Volstead writes:
> M Holmes wrote:
>
> > Sen. Volstead writes:
> >
> > [Hawkwindia...]
> >
> > > How about doing it Scientology-style and getting a giant cruise ship, or
> > > possibly an oil rig?
> >
> > So would the crew be twelve year old girls dressed is sailor uniforms?
> >
> > Mike "For some reason Scientologists don't use that in advertising" Holmes
>
> I didn't know that! ...sort of a "Sailor Moon" thing.
Except that they were also Hubbard's personal maidservants.
> The Sea-Org doesn't
> still exist, does it?
No, I don't think so. It was an answer to Hubbard being banned from many
countries as a result of "auditing" tapes being used to blackmail folks
in positions of power.
FoFP
ObBook: "Bare Faced Messiah". It's a really great laugh and I guarantee
your mind will boggle at some of the shit that Hubbard pulled.
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Feb 18 11:12:19 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:12:19 GMT
Subject: [off] audiobooks (was Re: Roadhawkfans (was hawkwind in new
zealand))
In-Reply-To: Arin Komins's message of Fri, 18 Feb 2000 09:40:01 -0600
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.161219.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Arin Komins writes:
[ abut Zelazny's Amber books...]
I've always wanted to see a Hawkwind song based on the amber books.
Reckon we could write some lyrics as a list effort?
FoFP
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Feb 18 11:45:54 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:45:54 -0000
Subject: OFF: scientologists and 12 year old WRENs
In-Reply-To: <200002181610.QAA22920@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.164554.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I thought I'd quote the entry on the Church of Scientology from Mick
Farren's _Conspiracies, Lies and Hidden Agendas_:
Church of Scientology, The
The Church of Scientology has many lawyers and they tend to sue anyone who
says bad things about them.
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Feb 18 11:45:03 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:45:03 -0500
Subject: OFF: audiobooks (new zealazny))
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.114503.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Mike said...
>Arin Komins writes:
>
>[ abut Zelazny's Amber books...]
>
>I've always wanted to see a Hawkwind song based on the amber books.
>Reckon we could write some lyrics as a list effort?
I've heard there's supposed to be an Amber movie made sometime soon.
Perhaps HW could do some of the soundtrack?
Keith H. (FAA)
From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Fri Feb 18 13:37:45 2000
From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:37:45 -0600
Subject: OFF: scientologists and 12 year old WRENs
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.123745.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
M Holmes wrote:
> Sen. Volstead writes:
>
> > M Holmes wrote:
> >
> > > Sen. Volstead writes:
> > >
> > > [Hawkwindia...]
> > >
> > > > How about doing it Scientology-style and getting a giant cruise ship, or
> > > > possibly an oil rig?
> > >
> > > So would the crew be twelve year old girls dressed is sailor uniforms?
> > >
> > > Mike "For some reason Scientologists don't use that in advertising" Holmes
> >
> > I didn't know that! ...sort of a "Sailor Moon" thing.
>
> Except that they were also Hubbard's personal maidservants.
Oh, so they vacuumed his floors and stuff. They must've got a pretty decent salary
too.
> > The Sea-Org doesn't
> > still exist, does it?
>
> No, I don't think so. It was an answer to Hubbard being banned from many
> countries as a result of "auditing" tapes being used to blackmail folks
> in positions of power.
>
> FoFP
>
> ObBook: "Bare Faced Messiah". It's a really great laugh and I guarantee
> your mind will boggle at some of the shit that Hubbard pulled.
-You can download the entire book, with pictures at
http://www.primenet.com/~lippard/bfm/bfmconte.htm
There's a great photo of Hubbard connecting an "E-meter" (ie. a glorified toy lie
detector) to a tomato! (He claimed plants feel pain when they're injured)
From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Feb 18 13:02:15 2000
From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:02:15 -0500
Subject: Hawkwindia
In-Reply-To: <38AC8561.B9C5F45F@softhome.net>; from antisol@SOFTHOME.NET on
Thu, Feb 17, 2000 at 05:33:53PM -0600
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.130215.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Thu, Feb 17, 2000 at 05:33:53PM -0600, Sen. Volstead wrote:
> How about doing it Scientology-style and getting a giant cruise ship, or
> possibly an oil rig?
Or a yellow sub, just like Hawkbard Celine.
--
| | /\
|-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com
| | /
to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of
ridicule. he was NOT a loser.
thank you, Mr. Schulz.
- Robert C. Mayo
From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Feb 18 13:03:13 2000
From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:03:13 -0500
Subject: Hawkwindia
In-Reply-To: <200002181254.MAA06299@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>; from
fofp@HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK on Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 12:54:18PM +0000
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.130313.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 12:54:18PM +0000, M Holmes wrote:
> But, you forgot: Fernando Poo!
But then you might just *have* to die for it...
--
| | /\
|-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com
| | /
to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of
ridicule. he was NOT a loser.
thank you, Mr. Schulz.
- Robert C. Mayo
From BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Fri Feb 18 14:02:12 2000
From: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:02:12 +0000
Subject: MP3
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.190212.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
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From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Fri Feb 18 14:01:25 2000
From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:01:25 -0500
Subject: MP3
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.140125.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
-----Original Message-----
From: linuxchaos <linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: Friday, February 18, 2000 2:36 AM
Subject: MP3
>So I'm staying up night after night putting albums on MP3. I rip them at
>64kbps and that way (CD quality) we can fit 30+ albums per each CD.
64kbps doesn't approach CD quality. 128kbps (which is LISTED as CD
quality,)
really isn't either. A recent rip of agents of fortune at 128kbps totally
destroyed
the high-hats, etc. A re-rip at 160 was much better.
>I put my 120 Hawk albums on mp3 do you think we should swap them?
>I buy all Hawkwind and related releases (lucky for me eh?) I think that
>between us it should be ok as a lot of these are deleted etc.
>
>The end of the music business?
Not even close. But perhaps the end of buying 6 to 12 track CD's to get the
ONE
track that one might actually find interesting.
Hey trading a song or two here and there is one thing. When you start
dealing in
full albums or even -libraries-, you are asking for trouble, IMO.
RJ
From BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Fri Feb 18 14:08:34 2000
From: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:08:34 +0000
Subject: MP3
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From BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Fri Feb 18 14:09:41 2000
From: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:09:41 +0000
Subject: MP3
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From BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Fri Feb 18 14:11:09 2000
From: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:11:09 +0000
Subject: MP3
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From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Fri Feb 18 14:08:49 2000
From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:08:49 -0500
Subject: informal survey
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.140849.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert C. Mayo <RMayo19761 at AOL.COM>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: Friday, February 18, 2000 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: informal survey
>BOC (w/al & joe, who's fantasy is this, anyway...) covering BLOODROCK's
>'DOA'! vox: e. bloom.
>or--
Ever hear the version of DOA with the narrative? Johnny was good
boy...personable...athletic..
RJ
From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Fri Feb 18 14:12:57 2000
From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:12:57 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.141257.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Well, I might be talking out of my arse here (One must keep up
appearances...)
But I have visited Holland, and would move there in a flat heartbeat if I
could.
Even if it meant starving...
RJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Gilham <Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: Thursday, February 17, 2000 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
>> The moral of the story is, don't screw with the constitution
>> or the bill of rights. America isn't perfect, never will be,
>> but I still rather live here than anywhere in the world. Well,
>> maybe I might consider Denmark, or Norway or Holland.
>> They gotta lot of good looking blondes there, and I'm a
>> sucker for a blonde.
>
>How many of these countries have you visited? Or are you talking out of
>your arse?
>
>After the "proud to drive drunk" comment, I'd lie low for a while if I were
>you.
>
>-- Andy
>
>mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Fri Feb 18 14:27:02 2000
From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:27:02 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.142702.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>Keith H. (FAA)
>who still can't understand why the US didn't bomb North Carolina, since
>those folks have been continually harboring a known terrorist in their
midst
>(whom the FBI still hasn't caught apparently), just like Afghanistan (or
>whoever it was we bombed for similar reasons).
If you smoke, regardless of your age, you chose it. Anyone who is stupid
enough to
require a Surgeon-General's warning to know that inhaling smoke as a habit
is harmful
is likely too stupid to figure out how to light one anyway.
I am a heavy (heavier than anyone I know) smoker. I know it is likely to
kill me. I knew
before I ever lit my first. I didn't care then, and I don't care now.
Second-hand smoke! US studies say that non-smokers who hang around smokers,
getting
second hand smoke, are as likely to get cancer as the smoker, and some say
MORE likely.
So why are smokers not dying at 3-4 times the rate they are, since they get
second hand
smoke from EVERY cigarette they smoke, plus the smoke they inhale directly
(which while
filtered, is still several times as dense as second-hand smoke- even after
exhalation-) PLUS
the second hand smoke from the bevy of smokers many of these people tend to
run with?
The war on tobacco is like the war on drugs. A tactic to serve the few,
while drawing
attention away from the real issues facing the world.
Why haven't they banned sugar, cholesterol, fat, etc?
RJ
From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Feb 18 13:28:01 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:28:01 EDT
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: <008601bf7a44$2ad61060$9eb8accf@tomb>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.142801.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 18 Feb 00, at 14:12, Sprawl wrote:
> Well, I might be talking out of my arse here (One must keep up
> appearances...)
> But I have visited Holland, and would move there in a flat heartbeat
> if I could. Even if it meant starving...
>
You got that right! If I were employable, I'd be on the first plane and
looking for a residence. As it is, I'll have to be content with visiting
every year or so. Great people and a great national tendency to
leave people the hell alone...
theo
From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Fri Feb 18 14:39:51 2000
From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:39:51 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.143951.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>Well, that's all fine and dandy for your local pubs and such, but that
>doesn't really apply for concert halls.
Well, actually, clubs and pubs were all I was referring to. I really don't
have
a problem with not smoking in a hall.
> It's not like you have a choice on
>where to see a band travelling across the country...they're only likely to
>be in your city once, if at all! And most clubs/halls (outside of CA
>anyway) do allow smoking, and so unless the band itself demands a
smoke-free
>hall (and I don't think there are many who do), it simply doesn't happen.
>Personally, I've learned to tolerate it, and actually the thing I dislike
>the most about it, is the stench my clothes emit the following morning.
>(Esp. your coat, that you might like to wear without first having to air it
>out for a week.) As bad as it is for your lungs, the awful smell of
clothes
>and furniture is really the most hideous thing about the habit. (Other
than
>the early death.) :) I know the smoker him/herself becomes oblivious to
>the smell (I worked in a chemical plant for awhile, and so I know how that
>works), but how a non-smoker can live around heavy smokers I can't imagine.
I don't smell it on myself, but I do smell it when I first pick up my coat,
or return home
after being away. I will hand you that... I don't like the smell either.
But I like the
smell of Italian food and perfume even less... and lets not even talk about
airfresheners and household disinfectants! ewwwwww...
=)
>
>Keith H. (FAA)
>
From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Fri Feb 18 14:43:38 2000
From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:43:38 -0500
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.144338.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I get your point, tho' that is not what I meant. I was referring to the US
mob's
tendancy to jump on band wagons, exercising liberties vehemently, not
because
of any need or desire, but just because they CAN.
I don't have much to say about the Left an Right... I just keep hoping they
will
go far enough right or left that they just drop off the edge!
=)
RJ
>On Thu, Feb 17, 2000 at 02:01:04PM -0500, Sprawl wrote:
>> That's the thing about freedom. One group thinks they should be free to
>> DO it. Another thinks they should be free OF it.
>
>An interesting quirk of American politics is how small a
>difference there is between the political poles. One of the
>American Constitution's first two amendments is sacrosanct, but
>the other is an obsolete relic of a bygone age. The only
>squabble between far Right and far Left is: which amendment is
>which?
>
>--
>
>| | /\
>|-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com
>| | /
>to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of
>ridicule. he was NOT a loser.
>thank you, Mr. Schulz.
> - Robert C. Mayo
From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Fri Feb 18 14:45:45 2000
From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:45:45 -0500
Subject: OFF: Drunk Driving
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.144545.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I don't drink. And usually I do not willingly go out-of-doors when I am
stoned. =)
RJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Cliff & Pam Wheaton <cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: Thursday, February 17, 2000 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: OFF: Drunk Driving
>I have to say here, that being smart & letting someone like me (cab) drive
ya home is
>far safer & wayyyyy cheaper than going home in one of those cabs with the
weird
>toplight (light bar) . Policemen have a tendency to relieve you of driving
privileges,
>and using a cab to go to & from work DAILY is truly spendy, as well as the
cost of a
>DUI . Here in Boise, it's $3000.00 + loss of licence-on the first offense.
Wrecking
>ones transportation sux too.
>Please, folx, use cabs or designated drivers. I'd REALLY prefer to be able
to continue
>talking with all of you!
>Rock on!
>Pam
>
>
>--
> Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton
> _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace
> </__"Rockin Cabbie"__\o "THE INTERNET"
> 0 0 E-mail: cwheaton at TransWestTaxi.com
> URL:http://www.TransWestTaxi.com
From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Fri Feb 18 14:47:50 2000
From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:47:50 -0500
Subject: Hawkwind dancers
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.144750.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Pebs and Michelle.
Sorry, I never got their surnames, and Pebs might have been fibbing about
hers.
RJ
>Hello all
>
>Does anyone know the names of the 2 female dancers from the Summer 1996
>Hawkwind shows?
>Then, back to the dancer on the Business Trip tour of 1993, anyone know
>Hilary's last name?
>Any thoughts?
>
>All the best
>Age
>
>Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at:
>http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html
From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Fri Feb 18 14:59:22 2000
From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 19:59:22 -0000
Subject: HW: Covers
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.195922.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Is that the 'Alice' song? (One pill makes you smaller, one pill makes you
larger etc etc) - we used to do a very trippy version a couple of years ago
that degenerated into the tune of Assassins of Allah most times...suitably
apt!
---
Kevin Perry
Sonic Energy Authority
http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/
"It is the business of the future to be dangerous;
and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its
duties."
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Lee <MLee at ESPARTO.ORG>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 10:41 AM
Subject: HW: Covers
> I'd love to hear a 'spaced-out' version of White Rabbits, J Airplane.
>
> Apart from that any new Hawks will do for me...
>
> Anybody doing Ozrics tonight in Derby ?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
From flossbac at NLCI.COM Fri Feb 18 15:37:51 2000
From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:37:51 -0500
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.153751.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> So why are smokers not dying at 3-4 times the rate they are, since they
get
> second hand
> smoke from EVERY cigarette they smoke, plus the smoke they inhale directly
> (which while
> filtered, is still several times as dense as second-hand smoke- even after
> exhalation-) PLUS
> the second hand smoke from the bevy of smokers many of these people tend
to
> run with?
>
> The war on tobacco is like the war on drugs. A tactic to serve the few,
> while drawing
> attention away from the real issues facing the world.
>
> Why haven't they banned sugar, cholesterol, fat, etc?
Well, for a start, smokers ARE dying at a much higher rate than the
non-smoking population, usually due to the diseases directly caused by
smoking: cancer of the lung, pharynx, stomach, esophagus, and mouth;
hypertension; stroke; heart attack; congestive heart failure, chronic
obstructive pulmonary disease. These illnesses appear in smokers at a rate
which is multiples of that of non-smokers. Note that it has never been
suggested that non-smokers don't also get such diseases, or that smokers
sometimes don't die of their habit, but statistically speaking, if you
smoke, you are radically increasing your chances of developing one of these
illnesses. Aside from the healthcare burden for the smoker, the whole
healthcare industry expends billions of dollars annually treating people who
could have prevented their sickness if they had only used a little sense.
As for the war on tobacco being "a tactic to serve the few"-- that just
sounds like some generic paranoia/conspiracy theory to me. I don't think
there are many people silly enough to suggest that smoking is good in any
way whatsoever, so I say let's just treat it with the disdain it deserves or
even outlaw it. Nicotine (otherwise used as an insecticide) is highly
addictive, so it's no surprise that people get a little nutty over their
desire/rights to smoke, but I think we can all pretty much agree that it's a
vile habit with no rewards for anybody. Couldn't we all just decide to do
away with it? Seems sensible enough.
Regarding the banning of the other food ingredients you mentioned.... sugar
has no harmful effects whatsoever, so there's no need to discuss it.
Cholesterol and saturated fats, in excess, can certainly be deleterious to
one's health (unless the idea of atherosclerosis and its complications is
appealing to someone), but the difference between these and smoking is
twofold. Firstly, the body requires fat in the diet, although usually not
in the kinds of quantities the typical american eats. This is why north
america has such a high rate of circulatory disease. Nicotine is not needed
by the body for survival. Secondly, fats are not addictive (there is no
withdrawal effect). Nicotine withdrawal, however, produces intense
psychological craving and definite physical withdrawal symptoms. Thus we
have a world of people who know all the dangers of smoking but somehow,
don't feel any desire to quit. After all, we know there is not a single
reason to smoke, other than the usual sort of teenagerish "looks cool" etc.
reasoning. If heroin or cocaine were available at every corner gas station,
just like cigarettes, we would have just as large a problem with those drugs
as with smoking. This is not due to any particular moral weakness, but
purely due to the addictive properties of said substances.
Now leaving my soapbox....
your friendly pharmacist,
John Majka
From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Fri Feb 18 16:00:19 2000
From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:00:19 -0500
Subject: HW: Chrisma Psi Power single
In-Reply-To: <20000218204550.8840.qmail@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.160019.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Thanks. It's the 12" version. I'm going to pass on it because I already
have the song. And everyone knows that the best way to avoid Kollecting is
to never start! Kind of like smoking, isn't it? ;-)
Brian
>It's fairly rear and that's a good price. There's a 7" version and a 12"
>version.
>
>FoFP
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Feb 18 16:07:32 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:07:32 -0500
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.160732.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
John missed the obvious with...
>Cholesterol and saturated fats, in excess, can certainly be deleterious to
>one's health (unless the idea of atherosclerosis and its complications is
>appealing to someone), but the difference between these and smoking is
>twofold. Firstly, the body requires fat in the diet, although usually not
>in the kinds of quantities the typical american eats. This is why north
>america has such a high rate of circulatory disease. Nicotine is not needed
>by the body for survival. Secondly, fats are not addictive (there is no
>withdrawal effect). Nicotine withdrawal, however, produces intense
>psychological craving and definite physical withdrawal symptoms.
Ummmmm...the main difference is that eating fats and cholesterol doesn't
affect others' health, as smoking does. (Hence, the push for some
regulation in public and the reason the 'libertarian' position doesn't
necessarily fly.) The only real similarity is that both affect all of our
finances, by increasing insurance rates via increased medical costs and the
related reduction in worker productivity due to poor health.
And I believe there is behavioral addiction to eating certain foods and/or
amounts of foods...and that works both ways, i.e., overeating and
undereating. Not the same as nicotine addiction, but certainly can be powerful.
Keith H. (FAA and caffeine addict)
From flossbac at NLCI.COM Fri Feb 18 16:19:48 2000
From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:19:48 -0500
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.161948.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> John missed the obvious with...
>
> >Cholesterol and saturated fats, in excess, can certainly be deleterious
to
> >one's health (unless the idea of atherosclerosis and its complications is
> >appealing to someone), but the difference between these and smoking is
> >twofold. Firstly, the body requires fat in the diet, although usually
not
> >in the kinds of quantities the typical american eats. This is why north
> >america has such a high rate of circulatory disease. Nicotine is not
needed
> >by the body for survival. Secondly, fats are not addictive (there is no
> >withdrawal effect). Nicotine withdrawal, however, produces intense
> >psychological craving and definite physical withdrawal symptoms.
>
> Ummmmm...the main difference is that eating fats and cholesterol doesn't
> affect others' health, as smoking does. (Hence, the push for some
> regulation in public and the reason the 'libertarian' position doesn't
> necessarily fly.) The only real similarity is that both affect all of our
> finances, by increasing insurance rates via increased medical costs and
the
> related reduction in worker productivity due to poor health.
Quite right! I forgot to mention that! Doh! Yeah, I really hate being in
a room with a smoker, because no matter how far away you are, your airspace
is still polluted. I am so glad that most restaurants are entirely
non-smoking these days. I hated those days when there were restaurants with
a smoking section just one aisle over from the non-smoking section, totally
ignoring the fact that the filth travels through the air (and when it only
has a few feet to go, you may as well be seated in the smoking section
anyway). I am all for people having the right to kill themselves, but
naturally I get a little concerned when they try to snag me into the plot!
John Majka
From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Feb 18 16:45:55 2000
From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:45:55 -0500
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
In-Reply-To: <003d01bf7a50$072b16e0$cd6040ce@pavilion>; from flossbac@NLCI.COM
on Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 03:37:51PM -0500
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.164555.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 03:37:51PM -0500, flossbac wrote:
> If heroin or cocaine were available at every corner gas station,
> just like cigarettes, we would have just as large a problem with those drugs
> as with smoking.
Strictly in terms of health, are these as nasty as tobacco? Or
are the risks more related to their illegality and the resulting
market distortions, than intrinsic to the substances themselves?
--
| | /\
|-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com
| | /
to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of
ridicule. he was NOT a loser.
thank you, Mr. Schulz.
- Robert C. Mayo
From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Feb 18 16:45:33 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:45:33 EST
Subject: OFF: informal survey
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.164533.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/18/00 2:10:25 PM, sprawl at STARPOWER.NET writes:
<<
Ever hear the version of DOA with the narrative? Johnny was good
boy...personable...athletic..
>>
=====
this must've been a/the live version; it wasnt on the 'bloodrock 2' lp i
nicked almost 30 years ago.
the single was #1 for three weeks on KRIZ phoenix in early '71
"<>"
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Feb 18 17:21:47 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:21:47 -0500
Subject: MP3
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.172147.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
RJ spake...
>>So I'm staying up night after night putting albums on MP3. I rip them at
>>64kbps and that way (CD quality) we can fit 30+ albums per each CD.
>
>64kbps doesn't approach CD quality. 128kbps (which is LISTED as CD
>quality,)
>really isn't either. A recent rip of agents of fortune at 128kbps totally
>destroyed
>the high-hats, etc. A re-rip at 160 was much better.
>
>>I put my 120 Hawk albums on mp3 do you think we should swap them?
>>I buy all Hawkwind and related releases (lucky for me eh?) I think that
>>between us it should be ok as a lot of these are deleted etc.
>>
>>The end of the music business?
>
>Not even close. But perhaps the end of buying 6 to 12 track CD's to get the
>ONE track that one might actually find interesting.
>
>Hey trading a song or two here and there is one thing. When you start
>dealing in full albums or even -libraries-, you are asking for trouble, IMO.
Well, this just appeared on another list, so maybe the trouble is now starting?
I really have no comment on the topic, as I have no knowledge of the
technology...my computer don't play music, and it's not even my computer.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?current=0&genre=Top&maxspeed=25
6&searchdesc=hawkwind&BitrateListBox=256
For the broadcast of over 100 Hawkwind songs, streamed to you 24 hours a day...
Enjoy at home or at work....
Just make sure you have at least a 56K connection...
You'll hear the good ol songs you've grown to love, and some surprises here
and there...
From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Feb 18 17:42:52 2000
From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:42:52 -0800
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.144252.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:45:55 -0500, Eric Siegerman <erics at TELEPRES.COM> wrote:
>On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 03:37:51PM -0500, flossbac wrote:
>> If heroin or cocaine were available at every corner gas station,
>> just like cigarettes, we would have just as large a problem with those
drugs
>> as with smoking.
>
>Strictly in terms of health, are these as nasty as tobacco? Or
>are the risks more related to their illegality and the resulting
>market distortions, than intrinsic to the substances themselves?
It depends on how you define "nasty". If a pack-a-day smoker smokes 10
packs of cigarettes in a sitting, it may make his lungs ache, but it most
likely won't kill him right then and there (unless he already has, say,
some sort of heart arrhythmia). However, if a junkie shoots up 10 times in
a sitting, she's gonna be permanently blue-in-the-face. No question. On
the other hand, a person who injects heroin once a day is extremely
unlikely to die of any complications cause by the drug, but the pack-a-day
smoker will be, statistically, very likely to die of lung cancer,
emphesyma, or other lung complications. It comes down to long-term vs.
short-term effects and differences in toxic-to-effective dose ratios.
Again, comparisons in "addictiveness" are difficult. Nicotine is
considered "more addictive" or a "harder habit to break" than any other
drug, but the withdrawal symptoms of nicotine, while very unpleasant, are
not as incapacitating as the withdrawal symptoms of heroin. And some
people can "maintain" an addiction without continually escalating the
dosage, while others
And then there's the whole question of which is worse: having tobacco smoke
blown in your face? listening to a babbling ego-tripping moron? or
staring at a listless zombie? At least you don't have to worry about
having your stereo ripped off by a cigarette smoker (at least not until
they're outlawed). Or, which is worse: watching your 60-year-old aunt die
slowly of lung cancer, or suddenly seeing your 30-year-old friend turn blue
while sitting at your kitchen table (the drummer in one of my bands got to
see the latter last year, but at least the idiot survived)?
-Doug
ceres at sirius.com
From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Feb 18 18:19:32 2000
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:19:32 -0500
Subject: MP3
In-Reply-To: <38AD98B2.CE74521A@netscapeonline.co.uk>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.181932.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, linuxchaos wrote:
=> Yeah I'm really sorry about that Kris and Dave!
=>
=> but maybe if those albums are put onto CD we could ALL buy them I mean Agents of
=> Chaos, Earthed to the ground Etc.
=>
=> I did ask opinions as to whether this should be done and when were Hawkwind ever
=> official, copyright sucks.
=> I remember Hammersmith Odeon in 1988 I was front row and Dave said (to the
=> audience) "heres an album you might like to buy for christmas or get a copy
=> of............(Travellers aid trust).
Hey, what you do is your own concern. I was just pointing out that it
might seem a tad indiscreet to be actually "conducting the transaction"
in a public forum like this (and one the injured party occasionally
reads, to boot!).
It might have mitigated things had you said, "swap Hawkwind albums *that
are out of print*," but nary a suggestion to that effect was to be
found...
So, can I get my copy of crappy-sounding of _Glastonbury 1990_ and
_Complete Live 79_ from you instead of having to shell out dosh for them
both, then? >;-)
Cheers,
Paul.
PS: I have _Agents of Chaos/Earthed to the Ground_ on CD.
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
--- Frank Vincent Zappa
From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Feb 18 18:39:39 2000
From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:39:39 EST
Subject: OFF: DOA
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.183939.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/18/00 11:10:25 AM Pacific Standard Time,
sprawl at STARPOWER.NET writes:
> Ever hear the version of DOA with the narrative? Johnny was good
> boy...personable...athletic..
>
> RJ
huh-uh. Please explain.
I'm a dier not a lover, Chuck
From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Feb 18 18:44:52 2000
From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:44:52 EST
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.184452.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/18/00 11:46:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,
sprawl at STARPOWER.NET writes:
> I don't have much to say about the Left an Right... I just keep hoping they
> will
> go far enough right or left that they just drop off the edge!
>
> =)
>
> RJ
Okay if I adopt this as a sig-quote? You of course will be credited. :) Chuck
From BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Fri Feb 18 19:12:50 2000
From: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:12:50 +0000
Subject: MP3
Message-ID: <SAT.19.FEB.2000.001250.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
[Message 038935 deleted by moderator at the author's request]
From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Fri Feb 18 19:19:10 2000
From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 00:19:10 +0000
Subject: MP3 Paul Mather wrote:
Message-ID: <SAT.19.FEB.2000.001910.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Well my friend I think the Glastonbury 90 and Live 79 and 82 were phenomenal great
albums collectors pieces. Its the Spirit of Hawkwind that comes across so well on those
3 recordings that I dont care if its sampled at a trilion and 64 gigahertz per
millisecond or played through a tin can there superb albums and worthy of your hard
earned cash.
Love In Space
Ben
Paul Mather wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, linuxchaos wrote:
>
> => Yeah I'm really sorry about that Kris and Dave!
> =>
> => but maybe if those albums are put onto CD we could ALL buy them I mean Agents of
> => Chaos, Earthed to the ground Etc.
> =>
> => I did ask opinions as to whether this should be done and when were Hawkwind ever
> => official, copyright sucks.
> => I remember Hammersmith Odeon in 1988 I was front row and Dave said (to the
> => audience) "heres an album you might like to buy for christmas or get a copy
> => of............(Travellers aid trust).
>
> Hey, what you do is your own concern. I was just pointing out that it
> might seem a tad indiscreet to be actually "conducting the transaction"
> in a public forum like this (and one the injured party occasionally
> reads, to boot!).
>
> It might have mitigated things had you said, "swap Hawkwind albums *that
> are out of print*," but nary a suggestion to that effect was to be
> found...
>
> So, can I get my copy of crappy-sounding of _Glastonbury 1990_ and
> _Complete Live 79_ from you instead of having to shell out dosh for them
> both, then? >;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.
>
> PS: I have _Agents of Chaos/Earthed to the Ground_ on CD.
>
> e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
>
> "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
> deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
> --- Frank Vincent Zappa
From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Feb 18 20:43:41 2000
From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:43:41 -0800
Subject: informal survey
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.174341.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000 20:13:14 -0500, crow <crow at ASCENT.NET> wrote:
>Out of whatever band you joined this list for (BOC, HW, tBS), what's
>one cover tune you would die to hear them do?
I suppose this would qualify me as the most egotistical person on boc-l,
but I would die to hear Hawkwind perform a song that *I* wrote (what could
possibly be more gratifying?). Specifically, the one that's titled
"Professor Q" because it's about the lead character in the series of
low-budget Hammer sci-fi movies - an appropriate topic for a Hawkwind song,
I'd think. It even sounds a bit like some of Jerry's slightly metal-ish
songs ("Wheels", "Alchemy"), and would (IMO) sound great as sung by Ron in
his most malevolent voice ("Blue Skin", "Reptoid Vision"). There's even a
breakdown section in the middle that would ideally be filled with "Sonic
Attack"-type electronic noises.
Come to think of it, I'd love to hear BOC play the song, too, since after I
wrote it, I noticed that its' signature bass riff is very close to the main
riff of "Career of Evil" (an accident, I swear!). Self-importantly yrs,
-Doug
ceres at sirius.com
From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Feb 18 20:54:01 2000
From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:54:01 -0800
Subject: HW: Chrisma Psi Power single
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.175401.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Since this is the US promo 12" version (as opposed to the UK 12"?), it has
the LP version of the song, right? The version on the UK 7" is an edited
(or, more accurately, chopped-up) version of the album track (not sure
about the UK 12") that has never been released on CD (only on the 'Repeat
Performance' LP AFAIK).
And Hawkman is correct about the '25 Years' LP - the US PROMO version is
quite common (I see them fairly often for $4 or $5 and probably have an
extra copy lying around if someone needs one), but non-promo US versions
(if they even exist) are quite rare. The US "Psi Power" promo 12" (the one
that Brian mentioned, which started the thread) is somewhat rare, but they
turn up in this country from time to time - it's no Italian "Hassan i
Sahba" 7", that's for sure!
-Doug
ceres at sirius.com
On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:00:19 -0500, Brian Halligan
<bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:
>It's the 12" version. I'm going to pass on it because I already
>have the song. And everyone knows that the best way to avoid Kollecting is
>to never start! Kind of like smoking, isn't it? ;-)
>
>Brian
>
>>It's fairly rear and that's a good price. There's a 7" version and a 12"
>>version.
>>
>>FoFP
From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Feb 18 21:31:25 2000
From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 20:31:25 -0600
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.203125.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
British Doctors: Nicotine As Addictive As Heroin
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000208/sc/health_nicotine_1.html
--
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
- Frank Zappa
From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 18 22:30:36 2000
From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:30:36 EST
Subject: informal survey
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.223036.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/18/00 2:10:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
sprawl at STARPOWER.NET writes:
<< Ever hear the version of DOA with the narrative? Johnny was good
boy...personable...athletic..
RJ
>>
nope! is this an 'un-edited lp version' or somesuch? tell me more!
rmayo
From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Feb 18 21:05:01 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 02:05:01 +0000
Subject: Hawkwindia
In-Reply-To: <200002181254.MAA06299@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <SAT.19.FEB.2000.020501.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 12:54 18/02/00 GMT, you wrote:
>> Candidates:
>> 1. Vatican City.
>> 2. Greenland
>> 3. Tuvalu
>> 4. Kiribati (nation made up of Gilbert, Phoenix and Line islands)
>> 5. Channel Islands
>> 6. Antarctica
>> 7. St. Pierre & Miquelon (2 french isles off the coast of newfoundland)
>
>But, you forgot: Fernando Poo!
>
>
>FoFP
And San Serif
ChrisW
From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Feb 18 21:31:34 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 02:31:34 +0000
Subject: HW: Covers
In-Reply-To: <91BAA0121CBDD31183B400A0CC585F71620F@BRIGHTON>
Message-ID: <SAT.19.FEB.2000.023134.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 10:41 18/02/00 -0000, you wrote:
>I'd love to hear a 'spaced-out' version of White Rabbits, J Airplane.
>
>Apart from that any new Hawks will do for me...
>
>Anybody doing Ozrics tonight in Derby ?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Mark
Guess I've been walking around blind and deaf as usual - I didn't realize
it was happening; prob'ly a good thing since I'm broke, and Helen wanted me
back in Nottingham ce soir!!!
ChrisW
Suffering the usual live music curse
From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Feb 18 21:41:35 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 02:41:35 +0000
Subject: OFF: Hawkwind in New Zealand way off?
In-Reply-To: <NDBBIHDFCLFBBIMDGDOFGEDMCFAA.cableshoppe@global2000.net>
Message-ID: <SAT.19.FEB.2000.024135.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
OK guys, handbags at 5 paces!
ChrisW
NP: John Surman - Withholding Pattern (v.spacy)
At 08:59 18/02/00 -0500, you wrote:
>Ditto!
>
>Plus when did this group suddenly become the PC Police?? Those who live in
>grass houses should not stow thrones, or something like that.
>
>Lets stick to the music!
>
>Michael S. Habiby
>
>++++++++++++++++++
>
>Dan Witt intelligently commented:
>
>hmmmm, did I just look at about 30 messages that have nothing to do with
>hawkwind?
>
>I know a lot a people like to "chat" on the list, and that's just fine.
>Use the appropriate filter prefix, pretty please. One or two messages is
>no big deal, but this many makes me want to drink and drive.
>
>I know I didn't use "off" here, but I wanted to make sure the posters
>see this message.
>
>
>
From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Feb 18 21:51:26 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 02:51:26 +0000
Subject: MP3
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.21.0002180900180.29197-100000@gromit.dlib.vt.ed u>
Message-ID: <SAT.19.FEB.2000.025126.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 09:12 18/02/00 -0500, you wrote:
>In future, I suggest you spare their feelings and arrange this
>apparently "ok"/"between us" free redistribution of their back catalogue
>via PRIVATE e-mail.
Or better still JUST DON'T DO IT
I'm as guilty as anybody of taping the odd item for a mate, who probably
wouldn't buy whatever it was, or similarly soliciting things that I
wouldn't buy, but this just "smells bad".
>Lastly, just what is your definition of "CD quality?" At 64 Kb/s, you
>must have one hell of a lousy CD player... >;-)
Too right, and CD (as I've said many times) is far from "Perfect sound
forever" *snigger*
Now, the emerging 24bit/192kHz technologies might cut the mustard - shame
about all those lower quality digital masters though - I wonder how many
people are wishing they'd stuck with analogue in the studio now? And who's
gonna make big bucks out of "interpolation" software to "upgrade" the old
stuff?
>Cheers,
>
>Paul.
>
>NP: Frank Zappa, _Shut Up 'N' Play Yer Guitar_
And it's time I dusted that off for the newly restored vinyl facility!!!
Cheers,
ChrisW
From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Feb 18 21:54:46 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 02:54:46 +0000
Subject: OFF: scientologists ... Hubbard bio
In-Reply-To: <200002181610.QAA22920@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <SAT.19.FEB.2000.025446.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 16:10 18/02/00 GMT, you wrote:
>FoFP
>
>ObBook: "Bare Faced Messiah". It's a really great laugh and I guarantee
> your mind will boggle at some of the shit that Hubbard pulled.
On my shelf, waiting for when I REALLY need cheering up.
Like maybe this week after the letter I just had from my bank
ChrisW
From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Feb 18 22:16:12 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 03:16:12 +0000
Subject: OFF: Smoke etc.
In-Reply-To: <00ac01bf7a47$ece105e0$9eb8accf@tomb>
Message-ID: <SAT.19.FEB.2000.031612.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 14:39 18/02/00 -0500, you wrote:
>But I like the
>smell of Italian food and perfume even less... and lets not even talk about
>airfresheners and household disinfectants! ewwwwww...
> =)
I don't have a problem with Italian food, but I've always wondered why
household (and car) air-fresheners always smell worse than the things
they're supposed to disguise.
Maybe I should try that in the Guardian's "Notes & Queries"...
ChrisW
Ever eager to learn
From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Feb 18 22:17:45 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 03:17:45 +0000
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
In-Reply-To: <00b501bf7a48$74300000$9eb8accf@tomb>
Message-ID: <SAT.19.FEB.2000.031745.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 14:43 18/02/00 -0500, you wrote:
>I don't have much to say about the Left an Right... I just keep hoping they
>will
>go far enough right or left that they just drop off the edge!
>
>=)
>
>RJ
They don't fall off, they just re-appear at the other side.....
Just step off the wheel maaaan.....
ChrisW
From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Feb 18 22:20:44 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 03:20:44 +0000
Subject: OFF: Drunk Driving
In-Reply-To: <00ba01bf7a48$c00a55c0$9eb8accf@tomb>
Message-ID: <SAT.19.FEB.2000.032044.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 14:45 18/02/00 -0500, you wrote:
>And usually I do not willingly go out-of-doors when I am stoned. =)
>
>RJ
You don't know what you're missing - the best joints I ever smoked were on
mountaintops....
And unlike the Scout leader, I DIDN'T fall off Cader Idris!!!
ChrisW
From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Fri Feb 18 22:39:35 2000
From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:39:35 EST
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.223935.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
get ready....
i've never smoked, tobacco or pot. so i'm not as wise to the details as those
who 'live the lifestyle', as it were. here's my incredibly naive question:
does smoking pot carry the same health risks as smoking cigarettes?
cancer/lung-heart disease/emphesema/etc etc...? let's forget the supposed
'positives' for the moment--surely inhaling the smoke of anything burning has
it's dangers...?
not trying to make a point here; just honestly curious; i never hear this
discussed, yay or nay.
rmayo
From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Feb 18 22:56:36 2000
From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 21:56:36 -0600
Subject: Hawkwindia
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.215636.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Can't we just take over Mir?
http://www.msnbc.com/news/371380.asp
Any millionaires on the list? ;-)
Chris Warburton wrote:
> >> Candidates:
> >> 1. Vatican City.
> >> 2. Greenland
> >> 3. Tuvalu
> >> 4. Kiribati (nation made up of Gilbert, Phoenix and Line islands)
> >> 5. Channel Islands
> >> 6. Antarctica
> >> 7. St. Pierre & Miquelon (2 french isles off the coast of newfoundland)
> >
> >But, you forgot: Fernando Poo!
--
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
- Frank Zappa
From flossbac at NLCI.COM Fri Feb 18 23:31:31 2000
From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 23:31:31 -0500
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.233131.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> get ready....
> i've never smoked, tobacco or pot. so i'm not as wise to the details as
those
> who 'live the lifestyle', as it were. here's my incredibly naive question:
>
> does smoking pot carry the same health risks as smoking cigarettes?
> cancer/lung-heart disease/emphesema/etc etc...? let's forget the supposed
> 'positives' for the moment--surely inhaling the smoke of anything burning
has
> it's dangers...?
>
> not trying to make a point here; just honestly curious; i never hear this
> discussed, yay or nay.
> rmayo
Yeah, certainly one of the major problems is smoke itself. The aerosolized
chemicals of burned plant materials are generally bad news in terms of
health. Pot is probably a bit more healthful because it lacks nicotine (a
sympathomimetic drug which basically overstimulates the body, raising blood
pressure and injuring the circulatory system), but the carcinogenic
properties and the lung effects are the same.
I haven't ever smoked tobacco or pot either, nor have I ever been drunk.
John Majka
From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Feb 18 23:49:05 2000
From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:49:05 -0600
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.224905.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
flossbac wrote:
> I haven't ever smoked tobacco or pot either, nor have I ever been drunk.
I'm sorry . . . I can't help but reply to this. No pot or getting drunk
ever??? I respect your choices but I hope you've at least had sex! ;-)
Karen (after 4 Sprechers - http://www.sprecherbrewery.com/ )
> Yeah, certainly one of the major problems is smoke itself. The aerosolized
> chemicals of burned plant materials are generally bad news in terms of
> health. Pot is probably a bit more healthful because it lacks nicotine (a
> sympathomimetic drug which basically overstimulates the body, raising blood
> pressure and injuring the circulatory system), but the carcinogenic
> properties and the lung effects are the same.
>
> I haven't ever smoked tobacco or pot either, nor have I ever been drunk.
>
> John Majka
--
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid."
- Frank Zappa
From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Feb 18 23:52:44 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 23:52:44 EST
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.235244.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/18/00 10:40:58 PM, RMayo19761 at AOL.COM writes:
<<
does smoking pot carry the same health risks as smoking cigarettes?
=====
nicotine is physically addictive.
cannabis might be _psychically_ addictive
but it doesnt make your body _require_ it
like nicotine
or heroin
=====
<<--surely inhaling the smoke of anything burning has
its dangers...?>>
=====
ummm....heh... in smoking cannabis one holds the smoke in the lungs, while
with cigarettes it's the old in/out.
the english cannabis indulgers among us can attest to mixing their pot
w/tobacco, so they're holding the tobacco in their lungs too.
======
well, drinking and cigarettes have been batted around here this week....is it
time for the pot discussion?
ummm....heh
i'm sorry, what was the question?
"<>"
From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sat Feb 19 04:35:08 2000
From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 09:35:08 -0000
Subject: HW: BADAM 99
Message-ID: <SAT.19.FEB.2000.093508.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi,
anyone else receive the declaration of insolvency regarding the Badam
festival organiser? It lists his debts (about ?19k) and his assets (nil)
and invites us to let the Court know how much we are owed and then tells us
that that there is no prospect of getting any money.
Nick
From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 19 08:02:49 2000
From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 13:02:49 -0000
Subject: HW: Ridicule
Message-ID: <SAT.19.FEB.2000.130249.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephan Spiegel
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 10:08 PM
Subject: HW: Ridicule
Is everyone's copy of Ridicule turning from silver to gold?
I checked out mine the other day and it looks like it's
getting darker and darker. Hope it doesn't someday
refuse to play....
Mine is ok - gold on the back but still silver on the playing surface.
I'll be adding a new CD to the Hawkwind Discography, soon....
Pendragon's "The World".
I finally tracked down a copy with the Hawkwind Warrior Art
on the CD, but the Music is Pendragon on the CD.
Pretty cool.
I've got one like that but it took a lot of hunting for and there are some people out there still desperate seeking a copy!! I once asked around in case the alternate version existed (i.e. A Pendragon's "The World" CD that played Hawkwind's "Warrior") but no-one responded so there probably isn't.
jill
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From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Sat Feb 19 10:02:53 2000
From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 10:02:53 -0500
Subject: OFF: Stoned Climbing
Message-ID: <SAT.19.FEB.2000.100253.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Well, I said, -usually-! =)
I don't get stoned and then go out. And I don't want to do it if I am going
to be
around people who are not.
But I do do the nature thing. But must admit, being high gives me an
increased
measure of respect for heights! I tend to stay a good 20 feet away from the
edge...
Ron
>At 14:45 18/02/00 -0500, you wrote:
>>And usually I do not willingly go out-of-doors when I am stoned. =)
>>
>>RJ
>
>You don't know what you're missing - the best joints I ever smoked were on
>mountaintops....
>
>And unlike the Scout leader, I DIDN'T fall off Cader Idris!!!
>
>ChrisW
From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Sat Feb 19 10:09:46 2000
From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 10:09:46 -0500
Subject: informal survey BLOODROCK LSDOA
Message-ID: <SAT.19.FEB.2000.100946.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>In a message dated 2/18/00 2:10:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>sprawl at STARPOWER.NET writes:
>
><< Ever hear the version of DOA with the narrative? Johnny was good
> boy...personable...athletic..
>
> RJ
> >>
>nope! is this an 'un-edited lp version' or somesuch? tell me more!
>rmayo
I have no idea where it comes from. A friend made me a freakout tape and it
is there.
Track list:
LSDOA - Bloodrock
The song, with a narrative dubbed over that reminds one of the anti-drug,
anti drinking
movies that they used to show in school.
LSD - Battle for the mind
Miserlou - Challengers
Candy and a currant bun - pinkfloyd
Heartbeat Pigmeat - P. Floyd
Scream thy last scream - syd barrett
Some stuff by Faust.
And some Casey Kasem outtakes where he loses it on tape...
I am going to make an mp3 of the lsdoa. If you are interested, email me,
and I will let
you know when and where I post it.
RJ
From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Sat Feb 19 10:27:00 2000
From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 10:27:00 -0500
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
Message-ID: <SAT.19.FEB.2000.102700.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Friends,
IT was a joke!
RJ
-----Original Message-----
From: K Henderson <henderson.120 at OSU.EDU>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: Friday, February 18, 2000 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: OFF: smoking etc.
>John missed the obvious with...
>
>>Cholesterol and saturated fats, in excess, can certainly be deleterious to
>>one's health (unless the idea of atherosclerosis and its complications is
>>appealing to someone), but the difference between these and smoking is
>>twofold. Firstly, the body requires fat in the diet, although usually not
>>in the kinds of quantities the typical american eats. This is why north
>>america has such a high rate of circulatory disease. Nicotine is not
needed
>>by the body for survival. Secondly, fats are not addictive (there is no
>>withdrawal effect). Nicotine withdrawal, however, produces intense
>>psychological craving and definite physical withdrawal symptoms.
>
>Ummmmm...the main difference is that eating fats and cholesterol doesn't
>affect others' health, as smoking does. (Hence, the push for some
>regulation in public and the reason the 'libertarian' position doesn't
>necessarily fly.) The only real similarity is that both affect all of our
>finances, by increasing insurance rates via increased medical costs and the
>related reduction in worker productivity due to poor health.
>
>And I believe there is behavioral addiction to eating certain foods and/or
>amounts of foods...and that works both ways, i.e., overeating and
>undereating. Not the same as nicotine addiction, but certainly can be
powerful.
>
>Keith H. (FAA and caffeine addict)
>
From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Feb 19 10:55:12 2000
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 10:55:12 EST
Subject: informal survey BLOODROCK LSDOA
Message-ID: <SAT.19.FEB.2000.105512.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/19/00 10:11:14 AM, sprawl at STARPOWER.NET writes:
<< Scream thy last scream - syd barrett >>
======
not solo barrett; the version i heard was one of his last floydian
recordings...
....am starting to think the version of "DOA" w/narrative was on the 2lp
capitol "live bloodrock"; if not there, then an audience tape, in regards to
which there seems to be 'not much'...
"<>".
From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Sat Feb 19 10:55:33 2000
From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 10:55:33 -0500
Subject: OFF: DOA
Message-ID: <SAT.19.FEB.2000.105533.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
It's called LSDOA. I do not know if the band did it, or if it was a remix
by someone else.
It reminds one of the anti-drug/drinking propaganda films that were popular
with the
school systems in the seventies.
I am making an mp3. Want it? Email me and I will tell you where and when I
am posting it.
Ronj
-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Rosenberg <Chuckrecs at AOL.COM>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: Friday, February 18, 2000 6:45 PM
Subject: OFF: DOA
>In a message dated 2/18/00 11:10:25 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>sprawl at STARPOWER.NET writes:
>
>> Ever hear the version of DOA with the narrative? Johnny was good
>> boy...personable...athletic..
>>
>> RJ
>
>huh-uh. Please explain.
>
>I'm a dier not a lover, Chuck
From brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Feb 19 12:02:18 2000
From: brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 17:02:18 -0000
Subject: BADAM 99
In-Reply-To: <004f01bf7abc$9ed717c0$de46a8c2@xpnwjjkf>
Message-ID: <SAT.19.FEB.2000.170218.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Dear All
I to got the BADAM note asking me to fill a form in and telling me that
there was no chance of getting my money back. I wonder where the ?11k in
ticket money went to?
I must say I don`t feel inclined to send the form back as it sounds like the
waste of a stamp.
Brian
From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Feb 18 07:50:40 2000
From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 07:50:40 -0500
Subject: informal survey
In-Reply-To: <018d01bf79ad$56cf6a00$1c79f0d0@crow>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.FEB.2000.075040.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 20.13 -0500 00-02-17, crow wrote:
Out of whatever band you joined this list for (BOC, HW, tBS), what's
one cover tune you would die to hear them do?
I joined the list for BOC, but I'd rather hear them play originals
than covers anyday. That's mostly true for HW, but I would love to
hear HW cover the Dr. Who theme :)
Cheers,
Carl
--
Carl Edlund Anderson
mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk
From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Sat Feb 19 17:48:40 2000
From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 17:48:40 -0500
Subject: informal survey BLOODROCK LSDOA
Message-ID: <SAT.19.FEB.2000.174840.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
-----Original Message-----
From: DASLUD at AOL.COM <DASLUD at AOL.COM>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: Saturday, February 19, 2000 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: informal survey BLOODROCK LSDOA
>In a message dated 2/19/00 10:11:14 AM, sprawl at STARPOWER.NET writes:
>
><< Scream thy last scream - syd barrett >>
>======
>not solo barrett; the version i heard was one of his last floydian
>recordings...
>
>....am starting to think the version of "DOA" w/narrative was on the 2lp
>capitol "live bloodrock"; if not there, then an audience tape, in regards
to
>which there seems to be 'not much'...
I don't -think- it's live.. I don't have the studio version, but the song
sounds
pretty much the way I remember it. It is recorded from vinyl, and at some
point
the slab must have been used as a door-mat, from the sound of it.
As for the Syd song, you're probably right. I just posted what my friend
wrote
on the tape.
I finished the mp3... two versions :: one at 160kbps ..deep sound, but
lots of noise..pops...
12 MB.
And the other at 64kbps a little tinny, but the size justifies it... 3.?
MB.
Ron
From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sat Feb 19 18:11:52 2000
From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 18:11:52 EST
Subject: HW: Hawkwind in New Zealand
Message-ID: <SAT.19.FEB.2000.181152.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/18/00 2:28:42 PM EST, tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes:
<< Great people and a great national tendency to
leave people the hell alone... >>
Except when it comes to taxation. Whats Holland at now? 60 percent or there
about?
From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Feb 19 23:31:32 2000
From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:31:32 +0800
Subject: informal survey
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000218174341.00952cc0@pop.sirius.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.20.FEB.2000.123132.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> I suppose this would qualify me as the most egotistical person on boc-l,
> but I would die to hear Hawkwind perform a song that *I* wrote (what could
> possibly be more gratifying?). Specifically, the one that's titled
> "Professor Q" because it's about the lead character in the series of
> low-budget Hammer sci-fi movies - an appropriate topic for a
> Hawkwind song,
> I'd think.
And a BBC TV series as well. Strangely enough, I just went on a search on
the Web for the Quatermass & The Pit DVD only seconds before reading this!
William
From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Feb 20 14:21:57 2000
From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 19:21:57 -0000
Subject: BADAM 99
Message-ID: <SUN.20.FEB.2000.192157.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Well now that it's official I want *my* form!! I was hoping there
was still a chance of BADAM getting off the ground for later this year
when I'd be eligible for my free ticket. But obviously not 8-((
If I get a form inviting me to claim then I probably will, even if it's
hopeless - if only to register my protest at losing out. And also
because people don't often invite me to write in asking for money!
jill
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Coulthard <brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2000 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: BADAM 99
Dear All
I to got the BADAM note asking me to fill a form in and telling me that
there was no chance of getting my money back. I wonder where the ?11k in
ticket money went to?
I must say I don`t feel inclined to send the form back as it sounds like
the
waste of a stamp.
Brian
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sun Feb 20 16:21:33 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 21:21:33 GMT
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
In-Reply-To: flossbac's message of Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:37:51 -0500
Message-ID: <SUN.20.FEB.2000.212133.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
flossbac writes:
> If heroin or cocaine were available at every corner gas station,
> just like cigarettes, we would have just as large a problem with those drugs
> as with smoking. This is not due to any particular moral weakness, but
> purely due to the addictive properties of said substances.
However, heroin, in known dose and pure supply, just isn't harmful, even
over thelong term, whereas tobacco smoke is. Cocaine powder and crack
are certainly harmful. However, where cocaine is legal, it's more
commonly taken as tea or by chewing leaf, which isn't nearly so
hazardous. powder and crack are a result of an efficient smuggling
process which is tself a response to Prohibition.
Not that I advocate that anyone uses tobacco, cocaine or heroin, it's
stupid behaviour. however the results of prohibition are a lot worse
than the results of a few people harming their health for some kicks.
> John Majka
FoFP
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sun Feb 20 16:32:08 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 21:32:08 GMT
Subject: HW: Chrisma Psi Power single
In-Reply-To: Doug Pearson's message of Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:54:01 -0800
Message-ID: <SUN.20.FEB.2000.213208.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Doug Pearson writes:
> Since this is the US promo 12" version (as opposed to the UK 12"?)
There wasn't a UK 12". That was 25 Years on.
> it has
> the LP version of the song, right?
No, it has the UK single 7" version.
> The version on the UK 7" is an edited
> (or, more accurately, chopped-up) version of the album track
yes, and the US 7" has an even shorter single version on one side.
> (not sure
> about the UK 12") that has never been released on CD (only on the 'Repeat
> Performance' LP AFAIK).
Indeed.
>From the Codex:
Psi Power
1 Hawklords
1 Spirit of the Age [Charisma Compilation]
1 Tales From Atom Henge
1 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set]
1 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology
1 a Psi Power/ Deathtrap 7"
1 a Psi Power/Psi Power US 12"
1 a Repeat Performance
1 a Psi Power/Psi Power US 7"
1 b Psi Power/Psi Power US 7"
L 2 Hawkwind at Glastonbury 1981 [Cassette]
L 3 Zones/Stonehenge CD
L 3 Night Of The Hawk {Psychic Power}
L 3 This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic
L 3 Best of Hawkwind Friends & Relations CD [Anagram]
* 1a is an edit of 1
* 1b is an edit of 1a
* The US 7" contains both the long and short single edits
From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sun Feb 20 16:49:44 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 21:49:44 +0000
Subject: informal survey
In-Reply-To: <LNBBLFLGFIDECPMIAKDHMEIBCOAA.xl5@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <SUN.20.FEB.2000.214944.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 12:31 20/02/00 +0800, you wrote:
>> I suppose this would qualify me as the most egotistical person on boc-l,
>> but I would die to hear Hawkwind perform a song that *I* wrote (what could
>> possibly be more gratifying?). Specifically, the one that's titled
>> "Professor Q" because it's about the lead character in the series of
>> low-budget Hammer sci-fi movies - an appropriate topic for a
>> Hawkwind song,
>> I'd think.
>
>And a BBC TV series as well. Strangely enough, I just went on a search on
>the Web for the Quatermass & The Pit DVD only seconds before reading this!
>
>William
Akcherly, Quatermass started on the beeb and went to the big screen
afterwards...pre-dating the modern tendency to transfer TV to movies by
about 25 years *g*
ChrisW
(going greyer by the day)
From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Feb 20 18:02:35 2000
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 23:02:35 +0000
Subject: informal survey BLOODROCK LSDOA
In-Reply-To: <000c01bf7b2b$786bbcc0$9885a4d8@tomb>
Message-ID: <SUN.20.FEB.2000.230235.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Sat, 19 Feb 2000, Sprawl wrote:
> >In a message dated 2/19/00 10:11:14 AM, sprawl at STARPOWER.NET writes:
> >
> ><< Scream thy last scream - syd barrett >>
> >======
> >not solo barrett; the version i heard was one of his last floydian
> >recordings...
<snip>
> As for the Syd song, you're probably right. I just posted what my friend
> wrote
> on the tape.
Don't know about the other stuff, but I can answer this one: it is
a full-fledged Floyd track, recorded in the same sessions as `Apples and
Oranges' and `Jugband Blues'. I believe it's only on comps.: Jon B. had it
on something called _The Psychedelic Dungeon_ which I've been vaguely
trying to find ever since. So, since the subject's come up, Jon, where did
you get that disc? Yours,
Jon
--
/----------------------------------------------------------\
| Jonathan Jarrett 11 Manhattan Drive, |
| jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge |
| 01223 741219 CB4 1JL |
|----------------------------------------------------------|
| "Wilhelm Reich died for your sins" (ST37) |
\----------------------------------------------------------/
From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Mon Feb 21 03:47:50 2000
From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 08:47:50 -0000
Subject: OFF: Gigs
Message-ID: <MON.21.FEB.2000.084750.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Do any of our German contacts have a list ?? of places it
would be good to contact to arrange a series of gigs around
June of this year - we are hoping to get Dr Hasbeen over to
Germany around the time of the Hawkfan festival as the timing
would be great for all concerned. Any ideas to my personal
email please.
Cheers guys.
Mark
mark at esparto.org
mark.p.lee at genie.co.uk
mark.lee at dial.pipex.com
mark.p.lee at sms.genie.co.uk (SMS to my mobile via Genie)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ END MESSAGE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Mon Feb 21 04:27:13 2000
From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 20:27:13 +1100
Subject: HW/OFF: Bastard?
Message-ID: <MON.21.FEB.2000.202713.1100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi all,
Anyone know if this is Ron's band?
Bastard - Fallin to Pieces (Hellion Records HELLIO-400)
???
S. (3 days until the Metro ...)
--
The email address ---> sonique at sonique.net
The current project ---> http://sonique.net/house
The bank balance ---> In the red :)
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 21 05:25:14 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:25:14 GMT
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
In-Reply-To: Robert C. Mayo's message of Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:39:35 EST
Message-ID: <MON.21.FEB.2000.102514.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Robert C. Mayo writes:
> does smoking pot carry the same health risks as smoking cigarettes?
> cancer/lung-heart disease/emphesema/etc etc...? let's forget the
> supposed 'positives' for the moment--surely inhaling the smoke of
> anything burning has it's dangers...?
Odds are it's not good for folks to inhale hot smoke of anything.
However, when it's been looked into, and it has a few times, the
evidence of long term health effects comparable with tobacco just isn't
there. The caveat would have to be that where it's smoked with tobacco,
then the tobacco would be causing its usual damage. However, most pot
users don't smoke nearly as much pot as a typical tobacco smoker would
of tobacco.
I have seen references to bronchitis being more likely amongst heavy pot
smokers. There was also evidence from, I think, WHO studies, that
moderate to heavy pot smokers showed a cognitive deficit in tests of
about 3% compared to control groups (this was in memory tests etc...),
however the effect disappeared on cessation of pot smoking. What it
seemed to amount to was that folks who smoked at least once per day were
never quite sober and tended to forget things.
Hope this helps...
FoFP
From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Feb 21 06:45:00 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 07:45:00 EDT
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
In-Reply-To: <003d01bf7a50$072b16e0$cd6040ce@pavilion>
Message-ID: <MON.21.FEB.2000.074500.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 18 Feb 00, at 15:37, flossbac wrote:
> > So why are smokers not dying at 3-4 times the rate they are, since
> > they
> get
> > second hand
> > smoke from EVERY cigarette they smoke, plus the smoke they inhale
> > directly (which while filtered, is still several times as dense as
> > second-hand smoke- even after exhalation-) PLUS the second hand
> > smoke from the bevy of smokers many of these people tend
> to
> > run with?
> >
> > The war on tobacco is like the war on drugs. A tactic to serve the
> > few, while drawing attention away from the real issues facing the
> > world.
> >
> > Why haven't they banned sugar, cholesterol, fat, etc?
>
>
> Well, for a start, smokers ARE dying at a much higher rate than the
> non-smoking population, usually due to the diseases directly caused by
> smoking: cancer of the lung, pharynx, stomach, esophagus, and mouth;
> hypertension; stroke; heart attack; congestive heart failure, chronic
> obstructive pulmonary disease.
[lots of health issues discussed, snip]
But the point that all you debaters are missing is this: A significant
number of citizens--tax-paying--citizens, want to smoke cigs, weed,
cigars etc, and some want to drink alcohol, and some want to take
other drugs. Whatever happened to the right of the individual to
determine what s/he wants? If you want to outlaw everything that's
potentially life-threatening, where do you start? And, where do you
end up? Hell, it's probably bad for my health to breath the stale, re-
circulated air in this very building. Why should it be legal for my
employer to mismanage the health of a hundred employees, yet
illegal for me to grow a little weed in my backyard?
theo
From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Mon Feb 21 05:32:18 2000
From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:32:18 +0000
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
Message-ID: <MON.21.FEB.2000.103218.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> But the point that all you debaters are missing is this: A significant
> number of citizens--tax-paying--citizens, want to smoke cigs, weed,
> cigars etc, and some want to drink alcohol, and some want to take
> other drugs. Whatever happened to the right of the individual to
> determine what s/he wants? If you want to outlaw everything that's
> potentially life-threatening, where do you start? And, where do you
> end up? Hell, it's probably bad for my health to breath the stale, re-
> circulated air in this very building. Why should it be legal for my
> employer to mismanage the health of a hundred employees, yet
> illegal for me to grow a little weed in my backyard?
>
> theo
As the father of a 4-year-old, I generally tend to look at things
from the perspective of what I want my son getting involved with and
what I don't. In that sense, tobacco, alcohol and the "illegals" are
all taboo.
And that's where I become a hypocrite. In my younger days, I consumed
all kinds of banned substances. To this day I still use tobacco --
the only addiction I've never been able to break (other than BOC and
Motorhead). And if alcohol is just as bad as any other drug (which I
DO sincerely believe), then how do I rationalize Saturday night, when I
celebrated the return of a friend from 11 years in the Navy by
downing 11 shots of Jack Daniels?
I would have to say that drugs are more detrimental than beneficial.
But does that mean they should be disallowed? And why make such a
distinction between pot and alcohol? How can someone who grows a
leaf or two in his or her own backyard receive a stiffer sentence
than a drunk driver? It happens often.
I can tell you that after 11 shots of Jack, I was far less in control
of my own life than I would have been if I'd smoked a joint -- or
even 11 joints. Yet what
I did was considered perfectly legal, whereas a joint would have
landed me in court, possibly prison.
-- Nick
From mordru at FLITE.NET Sun Feb 20 11:05:14 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold)
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 11:05:14 -0500
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
In-Reply-To: <200002211245.HAA27823@syr.edu>
Message-ID: <SUN.20.FEB.2000.110514.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>circulated air in this very building. Why should it be legal for my
>employer to mismanage the health of a hundred employees, yet
>illegal for me to grow a little weed in my backyard?
I could care less, as long as you don't use it next to me. I usually get
nauseus from weed fumes, it's ruined a couple concerts for me but it is
generally accepted as expected in certain types of concerts.
I will admit, though, that there are other people who get annoyed at the
mere thought of other people going off and having fun doing things they
would not, (and this applies to a heck of a lot more than just this),
and do their utmost to ruin everyone's fun.
BTW, it is not legal for your employer to do that, he (or she) just
probably gets away with it. Clean air stuff probably varies from
state to state, but in theory there is an office you could contact if
you have concern. A government office where I was at ended up being
investigated and it was determined that the air was unsafe, and there
was considerable fallout that resulted from this.... (it had some kind
of mildewy fungus in the air). I know that now all our buildings do have
air quality inspections now because of that.
=============================
"To dwell within Samsara, however, is to
be subject to the works of those mighty
among dreamers."
- Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light"
Andrew Apold
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Feb 21 11:19:16 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 11:19:16 -0500
Subject: OFF: Dark Star & High Rise
Message-ID: <MON.21.FEB.2000.111916.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi Folks...
Here are some tour dates FYI.
Dark Star (w/ Bic from the Cardiacs and other ex-Levitation members):
>In the meantime, you can catch the band at one of the
>following shows, but be quick, tickets are nearly
>all gone!
MARCH
4 LEEDS COCKPIT 0113 244 3446
5 GLASGOW KINHG TUTS 0141 339 8383
7 MANCHESTER ROADHOUSE 0161 832 1111
8 LONDON SCALA 0207 771 2000
9 BRISTOL FLEECE & FIRKIN 0117 929 9008
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I also saw that High Rise, the Japanese group is touring the US. I haven't
actually heard these guys, but imagine there are some fans here.
March
10th/ Tokyo to Seattle(flight)
Seattle/Graceland(night/live)
11th/ Seattle to Minneapolis (flight)
Minneapolis/400bar (night/live)
12th/ Minneapolis to Boston (flight)
Boston/middle east (night/live)
13th/ Massachusetts/Flywheel(night/live)
14th/ New York / Mercury Lounge (night/live)
15th/ Philadelphia / KHYBER PASS (night/live)
16th/ Philadelphia to Washington to Austin (flight)
Texas / Austin Festival ( live )
17th / Austin to Los Angeles (flight)
Loa Angeles/Silverlake Lounge (night/live)
18th / Los Angeles to San Francisco (flight)
San Francisco/ Bottom of the Hill(night/live)
20th or 21th/San Francisco/Cocodrie(night/live)
Keith H. (FAA)
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 21 11:24:26 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 16:24:26 GMT
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
In-Reply-To: Nick English's message of Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:32:18 +0000
Message-ID: <MON.21.FEB.2000.162426.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Nick English writes:
> As the father of a 4-year-old, I generally tend to look at things
> from the perspective of what I want my son getting involved with and
> what I don't. In that sense, tobacco, alcohol and the "illegals" are
> all taboo.
Indeed, and the Prohibitionists often tell us that their excesses are
excused by the need to Prooootect the Chilruuun, missing the point that
in Prohibition these substances are functionally uncontrolled and their
distribution handed to criminals rather than controlled and their
distribution handled by retailers who have a profitable licence to lose
if they sell to children.
But then logic never seems to have been a strong suit.
FoFP
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Feb 21 11:55:00 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 11:55:00 -0500
Subject: HW: OFF: Lemmy interview
Message-ID: <MON.21.FEB.2000.115500.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi Folks...
http://www.electricbasement.com
Keith H. (FAA)
From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Feb 21 12:01:37 2000
From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:01:37 +0000
Subject: OFF: Dark Star & High Rise
In-Reply-To: <200002211619.LAA00226@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.21.FEB.2000.170137.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In message <200002211619.LAA00226 at mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu>, K Henderson
<henderson.120 at OSU.EDU> writes
>Dark Star (w/ Bic from the Cardiacs and other ex-Levitation members):
and Ring, don't forget Ring. He was in that band with the useless
singer, remember.....oh what was his name now......? :)
--
Jon
From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Feb 21 12:05:10 2000
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 12:05:10 -0500
Subject: HW: Reefer Madness (was Re: OFF: smoking etc.)
In-Reply-To: <200002211624.QAA16707@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <MON.21.FEB.2000.120510.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Trying to steer this marginally on-topic, recently I had the enormous
pleasure of watching the film _Reefer Madness_ (thanks to the Virginia
Tech library), and I heartily recommend it to all! I especially liked
the part where the floozie dives to her death out of the upper floor
window because she can bear no longer the thought of the moral
degeneration she has wrought with the evil weed!
100% realism guaranteed throughout!!
Cheers,
Paul.
NP: Gov't Mule, _Life Before Insanity_
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"It's evil, wicked, mean and nasty!"
--- Steppenwolf, "Don't Step on the Grass, Sam"
On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, M Holmes wrote:
=> Nick English writes:
=>
=> > As the father of a 4-year-old, I generally tend to look at things
=> > from the perspective of what I want my son getting involved with and
=> > what I don't. In that sense, tobacco, alcohol and the "illegals" are
=> > all taboo.
=>
=> Indeed, and the Prohibitionists often tell us that their excesses are
=> excused by the need to Prooootect the Chilruuun, missing the point that
=> in Prohibition these substances are functionally uncontrolled and their
=> distribution handed to criminals rather than controlled and their
=> distribution handled by retailers who have a profitable licence to lose
=> if they sell to children.
=>
=> But then logic never seems to have been a strong suit.
=>
=> FoFP
From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Feb 21 11:06:47 2000
From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 12:06:47 EDT
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
In-Reply-To: <200002211624.QAA16707@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <MON.21.FEB.2000.120647.EDT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 21 Feb 00, at 16:24, M Holmes wrote:
> Nick English writes:
>
> > As the father of a 4-year-old, I generally tend to look at things
> > from the perspective of what I want my son getting involved with and
> > what I don't. In that sense, tobacco, alcohol and the "illegals" are
> > all taboo.
>
> Indeed, and the Prohibitionists often tell us that their excesses are
> excused by the need to Prooootect the Chilruuun, missing the point
> that in Prohibition these substances are functionally uncontrolled and
> their distribution handed to criminals rather than controlled and
> their distribution handled by retailers who have a profitable licence
> to lose if they sell to children.
>
Absolutely, goddamned right! It's always the parents who expect the
government to help them raise their kids. If parents are providing
such a sterling example, then, theoretically, the children will be
repulsed by the very mention of the word 'drugs' or alcohol etc.
We cannot have a perfect society. Certain people will want the
freedom to make their own choices, and others will always presume
to know what's best for society in general. And never the twain will
meet...
theo
From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Mon Feb 21 12:25:36 2000
From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 11:25:36 -0600
Subject: OFF: Dark Star & High Rise
Message-ID: <MON.21.FEB.2000.112536.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> 11th/ Seattle to Minneapolis (flight)
> Minneapolis/400bar (night/live)
I had meant to mention this myself. I did a little looking on the web
to see what these guys are about. They are described as a spacey mc5
type of band. Sounds pretty cool. Skye Klad is warming up for them at
the 400 bar.
dan
From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Mon Feb 21 12:47:32 2000
From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (James A Hogard)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 11:47:32 -0600
Subject: HW: Hawkwindia
Message-ID: <MON.21.FEB.2000.114732.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> Actually, if we can just find the country with the world's
> lowest popoulation, move all hawkfans there, we could make
> "Master of the Universe" the national anthem, and pass laws
> requiring the booking of hawkwind concerts, putting lemmy
> on currency ("eh, lemmy a lemmy wouldya?"), and banning
> Doug Smith from the borders of the nation. We could rename
> it "Hawkwindia". Street names would be stuff like "chronoglide
> skyway", "motorway ave", and "Calvert Road". Our nation
> would be protected by the latest in sonic weaponry.
I wonder how long it would take to get a passport...
Hogard
From denis at D-RIDER.DE Mon Feb 21 13:49:48 2000
From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 19:49:48 +0100
Subject: HW: Reefer Madness (was Re: OFF: smoking etc.)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.21.0002211158590.3158-100000@gromit.dlib.vt.edu >
Message-ID: <MON.21.FEB.2000.194948.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 18:05 21.02.00, Paul Mather wrote:
>Trying to steer this marginally on-topic, recently I had the enormous
>pleasure of watching the film _Reefer Madness_ (thanks to the Virginia
>Tech library), and I heartily recommend it to all! I especially liked
>the part where the floozie dives to her death out of the upper floor
>window because she can bear no longer the thought of the moral
>degeneration she has wrought with the evil weed!
I also had the chance to watch this "educational" movie not long ago. The
introduction isn't bad either:
"[...] Its first effect is sudden violent, uncontrollable laughter; then
comes dangerous hallucinations - space expands - time slows down, almost
stands still ... fixed ideas come next, conjuring monstrous extravagances -
followed by emotional disturbances, the total inability to direct thoughts,
the loss of all power to resist physical emotions, leading finally to acts
of shocking violence ... ending often in incurable insanity.
In picturing its soul-destroying effects no attempt was made to equivocate.
The scenes and incidents, while fictionized for the purposes of this story,
are based upon actual research into the results of Marihuana addiction [...]"
>100% realism guaranteed throughout!!
At least!
Somwhere on the WWW there's a site (I don't have the URL anymore) where you
can watch this film as a real-video stream. The quality isn't too bad so
this might be a good opportunity to watch this piece of tripe.
mfg
D+R
From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Mon Feb 21 13:55:36 2000
From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 13:55:36 -0500
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
Message-ID: <MON.21.FEB.2000.135536.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I took my first drugs for one reason, and one reason only.
Because all I heard about them were lies.
I was told I would have wild halucinations. I have never had a single one,
despite deliberate over-doses, and various salads and soups.
I know they exist. But usually (at least from what I have experienced,)
any
hallucinations one might experience will come from sleep deprivation
complicated
by vitamin deficiencies, or from psycholigical circumstances that pre-exist-
and are amplified and/or twisted by the substance.
Then there is the other kind of hallucination where one imagines situations,
rather than
-things- that aren't there. That one, I'm sure I have known.
Damnit. I wanted to see the friggin' pink elephant. Who do I sue for the
false advertisements?
;)
RJ
On 21 Feb 00, at 16:24, M Holmes wrote:
> Nick English writes:
>
> > As the father of a 4-year-old, I generally tend to look at things
> > from the perspective of what I want my son getting involved with and
> > what I don't. In that sense, tobacco, alcohol and the "illegals" are
> > all taboo.
>
> Indeed, and the Prohibitionists often tell us that their excesses are
> excused by the need to Prooootect the Chilruuun, missing the point
> that in Prohibition these substances are functionally uncontrolled and
> their distribution handed to criminals rather than controlled and
> their distribution handled by retailers who have a profitable licence
> to lose if they sell to children.
>
Absolutely, goddamned right! It's always the parents who expect the
government to help them raise their kids. If parents are providing
such a sterling example, then, theoretically, the children will be
repulsed by the very mention of the word 'drugs' or alcohol etc.
We cannot have a perfect society. Certain people will want the
freedom to make their own choices, and others will always presume
to know what's best for society in general. And never the twain will
meet...
theo
From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Tue Feb 22 03:33:08 2000
From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Bart Brugmans (aka Gekke Henkie))
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:33:08 +0100
Subject: HW: Hawkwindia
In-Reply-To: <20000221.114743.681.2.james.hogard@juno.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.093308.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Op 21 Feb 00, om 11:47, James A Hogard schreef:
>
> I wonder how long it would take to get a passport...
6 months at the least :-))
--BArt
From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Tue Feb 22 05:01:43 2000
From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:01:43 +1100
Subject: HW: Hawk TV
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.210143.1100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi people,
The Studio 22 Hawkwind recording which is being done on Thursday afternoon at
the ABC studios in Sydney will be made available for purchase from ABC
Program sales after the show has gone to air on March 30th!
Just thought you would all like to know :-)
S.
--
The email address ---> sonique at sonique.net
The current project ---> http://sonique.net/house
The bank balance ---> In the red :)
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Feb 22 05:05:47 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:05:47 -0000
Subject: BRAIN: Trepanation
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.100547.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Another trepanation story in this morning's Times - you can probably find it
on www.the-times.co.uk - woman ran off to America to have her head drilled,
the FBI called in etc etc. She seems none the worse for the experience
though!
-- Andy
ObCD: The King - _Return to Splendor_
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 22 06:03:11 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:03:11 GMT
Subject: HW: Hawkwindia
In-Reply-To: James A Hogard's message of Mon, 21 Feb 2000 11:47:32 -0600
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.110311.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
James A Hogard writes:
> > Actually, if we can just find the country with the world's
> > lowest popoulation, move all hawkfans there, we could make
> > "Master of the Universe" the national anthem, and pass laws
> > requiring the booking of hawkwind concerts, putting lemmy
> > on currency ("eh, lemmy a lemmy wouldya?"), and banning
> > Doug Smith from the borders of the nation. We could rename
> > it "Hawkwindia". Street names would be stuff like "chronoglide
> > skyway", "motorway ave", and "Calvert Road". Our nation
> > would be protected by the latest in sonic weaponry.
>
> I wonder how long it would take to get a passport...
"Hello? Is that Mr Hughes at the Passport Office?"
> Hogard
FoFP
From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Feb 22 08:09:35 2000
From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trevor thoms)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 05:09:35 PST
Subject: Inner City Unit Cassettes
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.050935.PST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I wonder if anyone still hasn't got the new Judgement Recs tape list.
They are all made by Judge Trev himself (me), and represent excellent value
for money.
Here it is:
Pass-Out ICU
Punkadelic ICU
The Maximum effect ICU
Maiden Voyage Iron Maiden (featuring me, circa 1970)
Now You Know The Score ICU (without Nik)
all at ?3.99 +p&p (on chrome cassette)
Now You Know The Score C.D. ICU ?9.99 + p&p
Cheques/P.O.s/hidden cash to:
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p&p add: U.K. 50p - Europe ?1 - U.S.A. ?1.20 - rest of world ?2
per extra item 10p 30p 60p 70p
respectively
or equivalent currency
All buyers will be informed of future I.C.U. activity.
How's that for cottage industry.
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From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Tue Feb 22 04:16:05 2000
From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:16:05 +0000
Subject: BOC: Butt of the joke?
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.091605.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
A scary thought just occurred to me: With Foghat possibly defunct,
will BOC end up the default punchline to all those 70s jokes? Who
else is in line for that dis-honor? Molly Hatchet? Nazareth? What the
heck -- they say any publicity is good publicity.
-- Nick
From john.cartledge at SUNDERLAND.AC.UK Tue Feb 22 09:24:34 2000
From: john.cartledge at SUNDERLAND.AC.UK (john cartledge)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:24:34 +0000
Subject: Inner City Unit Cassettes
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.142434.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi,
Just got hold of a compilation CD: Archives of Space, featuring HW,
Mother Gong, Amon Duul etc.
There's also an excellent track by Farflung (Landing on Cydonia), which
has got me interested in getting some more of their stuff.
As such, can anyone recommend an album that would be a good initial
purchase, or are they all equally worth buying?
Any info appreciated.
Back to lurkdom!
John Cartledge
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From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 22 10:13:08 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:13:08 GMT
Subject: Derby Bikeshow video?
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.151308.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I'd been told at the '99 fest that they'd prolly have various bands
available on video. Does anyone know anymore than that?
Otherwise does anyone have a contact address for the organisers so that
I can write and ask?
FoFP
From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Feb 22 14:33:05 2000
From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:33:05 -0800
Subject: OFF: Dark Star & High Rise
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.113305.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 11:19:16 -0500, K Henderson <henderson.120 at OSU.EDU> wrote:
>I also saw that High Rise, the Japanese group is touring the US. I haven't
>actually heard these guys, but imagine there are some fans here.
HIGH RISE are abso-fuggin'-lutely incredible, if you ask me. One of the
most throroughly BLANGA bands that's ever existed. MC5/Spacemen 3 isn't a
bad comparison, and they're huge Stooges & Blue Cheer fans, too. If you're
into pounding fuzzed-out two-chord riffs overlayed with thick wah-wah
guitar, you don't want to miss this band!
>March
>10th/ Tokyo to Seattle(flight)
> Seattle/Graceland(night/live)
>11th/ Seattle to Minneapolis (flight)
> Minneapolis/400bar (night/live)
>12th/ Minneapolis to Boston (flight)
> Boston/middle east (night/live)
>13th/ Massachusetts/Flywheel(night/live)
>14th/ New York / Mercury Lounge (night/live)
>15th/ Philadelphia / KHYBER PASS (night/live)
>16th/ Philadelphia to Washington to Austin (flight)
> Texas / Austin Festival ( live )
>17th / Austin to Los Angeles (flight)
> Loa Angeles/Silverlake Lounge (night/live)
The Bay Area dates listed below have been recently revised ...
>18th / Los Angeles to San Francisco (flight)
> San Francisco/ Bottom of the Hill(night/live)
>20th or 21th/San Francisco/Cocodrie(night/live)
The correct information:
saturday, March 18 / San Jose, Channel One w/Liquorball
sunday, March 19 / possible KFJC broadcast
the following two dates are by Okami No Jikan, a High Rise spinoff band who
are more psychedelic and laid back, less blanga than High Rise:
monday, March 20 / KDVS broadcast
tuesday, March 21 / San Francisco, Cocodrie w/Mystic Sensorium, Nanjo
Asahito (solo), Liquorball
I don't know anything about Mystic Sensorium, but Nanjo Asahito is the
bassist/singer/leader of High Rise and Okami No Jikan. Pay close attention
to those initials if you own one of the first hundred copies of the vinyl
edition of the 'Assassins of Silence' Hawkwind tribute.
I'll be guesting with Liquorball at both shows, making the public
performance debut of my Wiard modular analog synthesizer (designed by Grant
Richter of F/i). Even without the sound, the lightshow on that machine rules!
-Doug
ceres at sirius.com
From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Tue Feb 22 15:11:34 2000
From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:11:34 -0800
Subject: OFF: Drunk Driving
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.121134.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>
> You don't know what you're missing - the best joints I ever smoked were on
> mountaintops....
>
Mmmmmm, walking through the Redwoods, thick thick fog, Tangerine
Dream on the walkman.... bliss.....
From MPower at EXCHANGE.ML.COM Tue Feb 22 16:14:36 2000
From: MPower at EXCHANGE.ML.COM (Power, Marc (ETS - Equity Development Support))
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:14:36 -0500
Subject: NYCSPACEROCK: Rampant Robots hit the Streets! BORN to GO live at
ACME Underground on Sunday 2/27/2K 8pmNYS
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.161436.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
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"BORN to GO? They've been ripping me off for years!", Isaac Asimov, Philip
K. Dick,
Dave Brock & Bob Calvert
"I am going to meet them backstage.", Eccentrica Galumbits
"They didn't ask me to appear on their new CD, I hope it drops into a Black
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From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Tue Feb 22 16:21:32 2000
From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:21:32 +1100
Subject: HW: Byron Bay
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.082132.1100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
An Oz review from Byron Bay!
(PS: Looks like those sending money for T-shirts and posters may well
get some change)
Sonique
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From colum26 at YAHOO.COM Tue Feb 22 16:32:54 2000
From: colum26 at YAHOO.COM (=?iso-8859-1?q?colm=20mcwilliams?=)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:32:54 -0800
Subject: OFF: Dark Star & High Rise
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.133254.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
where can you get any info on high-rise, Nanjo Asahito
etc. Especially if they have any stuff out on cd. If
they sound anything like spacemen 3 then i am
deffinatly interested. I think darkside are a bit over
rated, levitation the previous incarnation where a
millions times better but maybe that was because a
certain terry bickers was in that band?
cheers
colm
--- Doug Pearson <ceres at SIRIUS.COM> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 11:19:16 -0500, K Henderson
> <henderson.120 at OSU.EDU> wrote:
> >I also saw that High Rise, the Japanese group is
> touring the US. I haven't
> >actually heard these guys, but imagine there are
> some fans here.
>
> HIGH RISE are abso-fuggin'-lutely incredible, if you
> ask me. One of the
> most throroughly BLANGA bands that's ever existed.
> MC5/Spacemen 3 isn't a
> bad comparison, and they're huge Stooges & Blue
> Cheer fans, too. If you're
> into pounding fuzzed-out two-chord riffs overlayed
> with thick wah-wah
> guitar, you don't want to miss this band!
>
> >March
> >10th/ Tokyo to Seattle(flight)
> > Seattle/Graceland(night/live)
> >11th/ Seattle to Minneapolis (flight)
> > Minneapolis/400bar (night/live)
> >12th/ Minneapolis to Boston (flight)
> > Boston/middle east (night/live)
> >13th/ Massachusetts/Flywheel(night/live)
> >14th/ New York / Mercury Lounge (night/live)
> >15th/ Philadelphia / KHYBER PASS (night/live)
> >16th/ Philadelphia to Washington to Austin (flight)
> > Texas / Austin Festival ( live )
> >17th / Austin to Los Angeles (flight)
> > Loa Angeles/Silverlake Lounge
> (night/live)
>
> The Bay Area dates listed below have been recently
> revised ...
>
> >18th / Los Angeles to San Francisco (flight)
> > San Francisco/ Bottom of the
> Hill(night/live)
> >20th or 21th/San Francisco/Cocodrie(night/live)
>
> The correct information:
> saturday, March 18 / San Jose, Channel One
> w/Liquorball
> sunday, March 19 / possible KFJC broadcast
>
> the following two dates are by Okami No Jikan, a
> High Rise spinoff band who
> are more psychedelic and laid back, less blanga than
> High Rise:
> monday, March 20 / KDVS broadcast
> tuesday, March 21 / San Francisco, Cocodrie w/Mystic
> Sensorium, Nanjo
> Asahito (solo), Liquorball
>
> I don't know anything about Mystic Sensorium, but
> Nanjo Asahito is the
> bassist/singer/leader of High Rise and Okami No
> Jikan. Pay close attention
> to those initials if you own one of the first
> hundred copies of the vinyl
> edition of the 'Assassins of Silence' Hawkwind
> tribute.
>
> I'll be guesting with Liquorball at both shows,
> making the public
> performance debut of my Wiard modular analog
> synthesizer (designed by Grant
> Richter of F/i). Even without the sound, the
> lightshow on that machine rules!
>
> -Doug
> ceres at sirius.com
>
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From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Feb 22 16:40:42 2000
From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:40:42 -0800
Subject: OFF: Dark Star & High Rise
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.134042.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Most of High Rise's albums are on the Japanese PSF label, most readily
available in the USA from
http://www.forcedexposure.com/
http://www.forcedexposure.com/artists/high.rise.html
'High Rise II' would be my recommendation for a starting album, and it's
been released in the US so you won't have to pay import prices.
-Doug
ceres at sirius.com
On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:32:54 -0800, colm mcwilliams <colum26 at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>where can you get any info on high-rise, Nanjo Asahito
>etc. Especially if they have any stuff out on cd. If
>they sound anything like spacemen 3 then i am
>deffinatly interested.
From MPower at EXCHANGE.ML.COM Tue Feb 22 16:44:57 2000
From: MPower at EXCHANGE.ML.COM (Power, Marc (ETS - Equity Development Support))
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:44:57 -0500
Subject: SPACEROCK: Trepanation
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.164457.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Andy wrote:
> Another Trepanation story in this morning's Times - you can probably find
it
> on www.the-times.co.uk - woman ran off to America to have her head
drilled,
> the FBI called in etc etc. She seems none the worse for the experience
> though!
And you don't know the new BORN to GO song, Trepanation? my, my....
The chorus is:
"You need Trepanation,
like a hole in the Head
like a hole in the head
like a hole." Copyright (C) 2000 Marc Power and BORN to GO
You can find an MP3 of us playing it rehearsal here:
www.borntogo.com/btg.html
Follow the "Rough Demos" link.
I will post the entire lyric here if anyones interested.
And we will be debuting it this Sunday at Under Acme in NYC 8pm
Bring your Android Replica's!
Space!
Marc. & the Crew.
From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 22 16:34:23 2000
From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:34:23 +0000
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
In-Reply-To: <200002211025.KAA12090@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.213423.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 10:25 21/02/00 , M Holmes wrote:
>Robert C. Mayo writes:
>
>> does smoking pot carry the same health risks as smoking cigarettes?
>> cancer/lung-heart disease/emphesema/etc etc...? let's forget the
>> supposed 'positives' for the moment--surely inhaling the smoke of
>> anything burning has it's dangers...?
>
>Odds are it's not good for folks to inhale hot smoke of anything.
>However, when it's been looked into, and it has a few times, the
>evidence of long term health effects comparable with tobacco just isn't
>there.
Strange -- the reports I've seen (in The Guardian), indicate that smoking pot mixed with tobacco is more dangerous than tobacco alone. They carried a report in the last couple of weeks that indicated that people who smoke 1 joint a day are twice as likely to die of smoking related diseases than people who don't smoke. Which sounds plausible to me. (The article listed the relevant diseases, but I don't remember what they were. Try searching www.newsunlimited.co.uk).
Dave.
Dave Berry, www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~daveb
From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 22 16:48:15 2000
From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:48:15 +0000
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
In-Reply-To: <200002211707.MAA27097@syr.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.214815.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 16:06 21/02/00 , Ted Jackson jr. wrote:
>On 21 Feb 00, at 16:24, M Holmes wrote:
>> Nick English writes:
>> > As the father of a 4-year-old, I generally tend to look at things
>> > from the perspective of what I want my son getting involved with and
>> > what I don't. In that sense, tobacco, alcohol and the "illegals" are
>> > all taboo.
I draw the line at addictive and dangerous drugs. It's one thing for a teenager to experiment with hash, which is easy to give up if you change your mind. It's quite a diffferent matter if the drug is nicotine or heroin. I don't want people getting my son hooked (whether the pushers are legal or not).
Alcohol is both addictive and dangerous, of course. But it's relatively easy to avoid addiction, and the actual act of drinking is safe, unlike smoking or injection.
>> Indeed, and the Prohibitionists often tell us that their excesses are
>> excused by the need to Prooootect the Chilruuun, missing the point
>> that in Prohibition these substances are functionally uncontrolled and
>> their distribution handed to criminals rather than controlled and
>> their distribution handled by retailers who have a profitable licence
>> to lose if they sell to children.
If there's a market in selling to children, then criminals will do it whether the drug is prohibited to adults or not. Or so it seems to me.
>Absolutely, goddamned right! It's always the parents who expect the
>government to help them raise their kids. If parents are providing
>such a sterling example, then, theoretically, the children will be
>repulsed by the very mention of the word 'drugs' or alcohol etc.
I'm often surprised at how little american-style libertarians know about children. Did you learn everything you know from your parents? Or did you possibly absorb influences from other sources too?
>We cannot have a perfect society. Certain people will want the
>freedom to make their own choices,
such as, of course, not wanting to breathe other people's smoke, or wanting their children to grow up safe without having to police their actions 24 hours a day.
Dave.
Dave Berry, www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~daveb
From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Tue Feb 22 19:14:04 2000
From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Erebus)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:14:04 -0800
Subject: BOC: Butt of the joke?
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.161404.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Nick English wrote:
> A scary thought just occurred to me: With Foghat possibly defunct,
> will BOC end up the default punchline to all those 70s jokes? Who
> else is in line for that dis-honor? Molly Hatchet? Nazareth? What the
> heck -- they say any publicity is good publicity.
>
> -- Nick
I hope not, I get WAY to defensive when it comes to BOC already. If
it's got to be somebody, let it be Trooper, Prism, Dr. Hook, or Hawkwind.
Laj.
P.S.
Just Kidding about Hawkwind of coarse ;-).
From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Tue Feb 22 17:34:15 2000
From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:34:15 -0600
Subject: SPACEROCK: Trepanation
In-Reply-To: <4FFB381C0259D21180080001FA7EFE94EFD20C@ewfd37.exchange.ml.com>
from "Power, Marc" at Feb 22, 0 04:44:57 pm
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.163415.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Here's another link to the story:
http://voyager.myway.com/features/news/default.asp?date=&archive=&newsidx=11807160&format=f&cat=310
>
> Andy wrote:
>
> > Another Trepanation story in this morning's Times - you can probably find
> it
> > on www.the-times.co.uk - woman ran off to America to have her head
> drilled,
> > the FBI called in etc etc. She seems none the worse for the experience
> > though!
>
> And you don't know the new BORN to GO song, Trepanation? my, my....
> The chorus is:
>
> "You need Trepanation,
> like a hole in the Head
> like a hole in the head
> like a hole." Copyright (C) 2000 Marc Power and BORN to GO
>
> You can find an MP3 of us playing it rehearsal here:
> www.borntogo.com/btg.html
> Follow the "Rough Demos" link.
>
> I will post the entire lyric here if anyones interested.
>
> And we will be debuting it this Sunday at Under Acme in NYC 8pm
> Bring your Android Replica's!
>
> Space!
>
> Marc. & the Crew.
>
From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 22 17:23:21 2000
From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:23:21 +0000
Subject: HW: Byron Bay
In-Reply-To: <B0000122278@maxwell.pcmicro.com.au>
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.222321.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>Wwwwwwooooooowwwwweeeeeee! What a gig! Well worth waiting thirty years for
When all's said and done, they are rather a good band, aren't they?
Dave.
Dave Berry, www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~daveb
From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Feb 22 20:40:11 2000
From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 17:40:11 -0800
Subject: SPACEROCK: Trepanation
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.174011.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:44:57 -0500, Marc Power <MPower at EXCHANGE.ML.COM> wrote:
>And you don't know the new BORN to GO song, Trepanation? my, my....
Nope! Not yet. But my two ex-flatmates are in a band who had a song
called "Will You Loboto-Me?" about the same topic. I guess it's one of
those universally-popular song topics like cars & girls & trains & broken
hearts that never goes out of style ... :^)
-Doug
ceres at sirius.com
From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Feb 22 21:06:47 2000
From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:06:47 -0500
Subject: OFF: SPACEROCK: Trepanation
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000222174011.0095c2d0@pop.sirius.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.210647.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Doug wrote:
>On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 16:44:57 -0500, Marc Power <MPower at EXCHANGE.ML.COM> wrote:
>>And you don't know the new BORN to GO song, Trepanation? my, my....
>
>Nope! Not yet. But my two ex-flatmates are in a band who had a song
>called "Will You Loboto-Me?" about the same topic. I guess it's one of
>those universally-popular song topics like cars & girls & trains & broken
>hearts that never goes out of style ... :^)
I'll believe that once Britany Spears or 98 Degrees sings a song about it....
Like, "Drill Me Baby (One More Time)"
<groan/>
Brian
NP>The Dead Milkmen "Eat Your Paisley"
> -Doug
> ceres at sirius.com
From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Tue Feb 22 22:03:13 2000
From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:03:13 EST
Subject: BOC: Butt of the joke?
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.220313.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/22/00 9:19:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,
nick at THECAMPUS.COM writes:
<< A scary thought just occurred to me: With Foghat possibly defunct,
will BOC end up the default punchline to all those 70s jokes? Who
else is in line for that dis-honor? Molly Hatchet? Nazareth? What the
heck -- they say any publicity is good publicity.
>>
i fear that BOC would work very well as a replacement, because of the strange
name; lynrd skynrd as well. but i like both bands; so........
1 vote here for molly hatchet!
rmayo
From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Wed Feb 23 02:45:12 2000
From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:45:12 -0700
Subject: HW
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.004512.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I just found , of all amazing things, Hawkwinds "Year 2000: Codename
Hawkwind"
V. #1! Any info on what looks to me like a gem??
I know the dates:
the first disc is The Sundown, Brixton 30.12.72
the second: Cambridge Corn Exchange, 1972.
I looked & my muddled mind couldn't find alot of info. I think this was
mentioned here, but as usual, I wasn't paying attention!!
Pam
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From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Feb 23 03:28:25 2000
From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:28:25 -0000
Subject: OFF: SPACEROCK: Trepanation
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.082825.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> I'll believe that once Britany Spears or 98 Degrees sings a song about
it....
Apparently Britney Spears has a little sister called Broccoli.
(I'll get me coat)
>
> Like, "Drill Me Baby (One More Time)"
>
> <groan/>
>
> Brian
> NP>The Dead Milkmen "Eat Your Paisley"
Cheers,
Rich.
Ob12"PieceOfShellac: The Dead Milkmen - Metaphysical Graffitti.
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From denis at D-RIDER.DE Wed Feb 23 04:05:35 2000
From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:05:35 +0100
Subject: HW
In-Reply-To: <38B39007.EC49FF8F@TransWestTaxi.com>
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.100535.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hello,
>I just found , of all amazing things, Hawkwinds "Year 2000: Codename
>Hawkwind"
>V. #1! Any info on what looks to me like a gem??
>I know the dates:
>the first disc is The Sundown, Brixton 30.12.72
>the second: Cambridge Corn Exchange, 1972.
>I looked & my muddled mind couldn't find alot of info. I think this was
>mentioned here, but as usual, I wasn't paying attention!!
Disc 1 (Brixton Sundown) is a re-release of "Space Ritual Vol. 2", disc 2
(Cambridge) a re-release of "In The Beginning" (aka "Masters of the
Universe"). It says it is remastered but I doubt it. It's a nice set to
have if you don't already own the other ones. There are some good versions
of classic HW-songs on it (including Lemmy's bass freak-out during "Time We
Left"), but the sound-quality of disc 2 is bad compared to "official"
releases.
cu
D+R
From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Feb 23 05:02:09 2000
From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Zebulon Mysterioso)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:02:09 GMT
Subject: OFF: Drunk Driving
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.100209.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> > You don't know what you're missing - the best joints I ever smoked were
>on
> > mountaintops....
> >
>
>
>Mmmmmm, walking through the Redwoods, thick thick fog, Tangerine
>Dream on the walkman.... bliss.....
Not wishing to endorse substance abuse, but that reminds me of Calvert's
Test Tube Conceived on the walkman whilst wandering through a ruined castle
in County Kerry during an intensely pleasant aceeed experience.
Oh the memories of youth.
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From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Feb 23 05:27:58 2000
From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 05:27:58 EST
Subject: HW: The Elf and the Hawk
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.052758.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Just got this. All tracks are accounted for in the liner notes except:
1.Dave Brock--"Burn Me Up" (good tune, the guitar sounds like it has to be
from circa Psyche Warriors)
2.A. Davey--"Fractal Hunter" and "Space Rock"
what are the dates on thse?
All around a pretty decent release. I'm impressed by my first taste of Davey.
However:
Space Does Not Care look out!!: PXR1-"Spirit of the Age"--Celestial sublimity
and righteousness, Batman! Spherical music rivalling Milton's imagination!!!
Chuck
From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Feb 23 05:55:31 2000
From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 05:55:31 EST
Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 2/19/00
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.055531.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
"SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR.
For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing
list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck
WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS FOR WINAMP :
1) Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp
Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to
hear KUCR.
http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml
After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest
at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your
computer.
After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program
(Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp
can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up
on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also
on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the
lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then
click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just
clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the
following http://www.kucr.org:8000
Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp
and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up,
double click again to reconnect.
2/19/00
1.Farflung--Solar Electric/Open Your Mouth (25,000 Ft. per Second)
2.Tribe of Cro--Black Hole Mooncircle (Potlach)
3.Alien Planetscapes--Gravel (Life on Earth)
4.Brainticket--Brainticket conclusion of pt. 1 (Cottonwood Hill)
5.Frank Zappa--Baby, Take Your Teeth Out (Us and Them; dedicated to Heather,
who wasn't listening)
6.Amon Duul II--Deutsch Nepal (Utopia chipmunk-kraut version; dedicated to
Anish and Heather, neither of whom were listening)
7.Charalambides--Now the Day is Over (Historic Sixth Ward)
8.Spiral Realms--Del Dettmar Improvisation (Solar Wind)
9. " " --Forge of Vulcan (Solar Wind)
10.ST-37--The Watcher (Assassins of Silence-One Hundred Watt Violence
<Hawkwind Tribute>)
11.Hawkwind--Choose Your Masques (Choose Your Masques)
12.National Steam--3rd Wheel (National Steam)
13.Escapade--Sound Trap (Due to a Faulty Premonition)
14.Mr. Quimby's Beard--Nebulae (The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries of...)
15.Krel--Star Fall (Ad Astra)
16.Ozric Tentacles--Sploosh! (Strangeitude)
17.Spirits Burning--Delicious Marsupials (New Worlds by Design)
18. " " --The Eagle Has Landed (New Worlds...)
19.F/i--Looking for My Head (Out of Space and Out of Time)
20.Spacehead--Astroman (In Space We Trust...'95-'98)
21.Dark Angel--Merciless Death (Darkness Descends; dedicated to me)
22.Escapade--A Disturbed Sleep (Inner Translucence)
23.Guru Guru--Electric Junk (Hinten, Spaceship: Best of Vol. 1)
24.Hawklords--Spirit of the Age (Hawklords Live)
25.Tangerine Dream--Fly and Collision of Coma Solas (Alpha Centauri)
26.Amon Duul II--She Came Through the Chimney (Yeti)
Thanks, Chuck
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 23 06:11:28 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:11:28 GMT
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
In-Reply-To: Dave Berry's message of Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:34:23 +0000
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.111128.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Dave Berry writes:
> At 10:25 21/02/00 , M Holmes wrote:
> >Robert C. Mayo writes:
> >> does smoking pot carry the same health risks as smoking cigarettes?
> >> cancer/lung-heart disease/emphesema/etc etc...? let's forget the
> >> supposed 'positives' for the moment--surely inhaling the smoke of
> >> anything burning has it's dangers...?
> >Odds are it's not good for folks to inhale hot smoke of anything.
> >However, when it's been looked into, and it has a few times, the
> >evidence of long term health effects comparable with tobacco just
> >isn't there.
> Strange -- the reports I've seen (in The Guardian), indicate that
> smoking pot mixed with tobacco is more dangerous than tobacco alone.
Weight for weight yes, because pot allows the tobacco smoke to penetrate
deeper into the lungs. It's rare for people to smoke as many joints as
others smoke cigarettes though.
FoFP
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Feb 23 06:13:55 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:13:55 GMT
Subject: OFF: smoking etc.
In-Reply-To: Dave Berry's message of Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:48:15 +0000
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.111355.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Dave Berry writes:
> >> Indeed, and the Prohibitionists often tell us that their excesses
> >> are excused by the need to Prooootect the Chilruuun, missing the
> >> point that in Prohibition these substances are functionally
> >> uncontrolled and their distribution handed to criminals rather than
> >> controlled and their distribution handled by retailers who have a
> >> profitable licence to lose if they sell to children.
> If there's a market in selling to children, then criminals will do it
> whether the drug is prohibited to adults or not. Or so it seems to
> me.
Perhaps, but mass sales to adults provide a lot of cover and dilute the
police effort. That could change a lot with the ending of prohibition.
> >Absolutely, goddamned right! It's always the parents who expect the
> >government to help them raise their kids. If parents are providing
> >such a sterling example, then, theoretically, the children will be
> >repulsed by the very mention of the word 'drugs' or alcohol etc.
> I'm often surprised at how little american-style libertarians know
> about children. Did you learn everything you know from your parents?
> Or did you possibly absorb influences from other sources too?
Books?
FoFP
From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Feb 22 17:48:44 2000
From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:48:44 -0000
Subject: OFF: smoking
Message-ID: <TUE.22.FEB.2000.224844.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Well, this has gone on for a while.
Apart from smoking, what about the effects of living in polluted cities?
Seems odd that people put up with, and heavily contribute to the amount of
car fumes we all have to breathe in.
What about the steep rise in asthma in young kids?
All so easy to divert to "smoking" and the "dangers of drugs".
When have anybodys kids ever listened to their parents?
Keep the barrels rolling.
And if you wanna smoke, smoke.
If you wanna take drugs, take drugs.
Blah blah blah
Age
From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Wed Feb 23 09:37:31 2000
From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:37:31 -0000
Subject: OT: Musicians in London
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.143731.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Does anyone know of any musicians (singers ans odd-balls: violin, flute,
percussion etc) in London who would be interested in doing something
slightly unusual (with HW influences of course!)? No drummers :-)
---
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Sonic Energy Authority
http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/
"It is the business of the future to be dangerous;
and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its
duties."
From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Feb 23 09:56:58 2000
From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:56:58 -0000
Subject: OT: Musicians in London
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.145658.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hey - king of the root note bass here...
Let me know what you're up to.
rich-l at geocities.com
Cheers,
Rich.
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Perry <kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 2:37 PM
Subject: OT: Musicians in London
> Does anyone know of any musicians (singers ans odd-balls: violin, flute,
> percussion etc) in London who would be interested in doing something
> slightly unusual (with HW influences of course!)? No drummers :-)
>
> ---
> Kevin Perry
> Sonic Energy Authority
> http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/
>
> "It is the business of the future to be dangerous;
> and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its
> duties."
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From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Wed Feb 23 11:13:36 2000
From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:13:36 -0600
Subject: HW: The Elf and the Hawk
In-Reply-To: <bc.1b1f09a.25e5102e@aol.com>
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.101336.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Chuck Rosenberg wrote:
:Subject: HW: The Elf and the Hawk
I'm sure this has been covered before, but what exactly is The Elf
and the Hawk? (...and where does one obtain a copy of it?)
Thanks,
Arin
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From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Feb 23 11:45:45 2000
From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Zebulon Mysterioso)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:45:45 GMT
Subject: HW: The Elf and the Hawk
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.164545.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>I'm sure this has been covered before, but what exactly is The Elf
>and the Hawk? (...and where does one obtain a copy of it?)
Wasn't that the infamous "Ronnie James Dio sings British Tribal Music", the
much lauded album of Hawkwind cover versions he recorded in the late-70's
which got him his job in Black Sabbath?
Nyuk nyuk nyuk.
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From micci at SCI.FI Wed Feb 23 12:00:57 2000
From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:00:57 +0200
Subject: HW: Hawk TV
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.190057.0200.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>Hi people,
>
>The Studio 22 Hawkwind recording which is being done on Thursday afternoon at
>the ABC studios in Sydney will be made available for purchase from ABC
>Program sales after the show has gone to air on March 30th!
>
>Just thought you would all like to know :-)
is there web address?
Miikka Wagner
email: micci at sci.fi
http://www.sci.fi/~micci
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Feb 23 12:04:43 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:04:43 -0500
Subject: HW: The Elf and the Hawk
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.120443.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>>I'm sure this has been covered before, but what exactly is The Elf
>>and the Hawk? (...and where does one obtain a copy of it?)
Basically, the Elf EP (Alan's 2x7" singles) and the Hawkfan 12 reissued on
one CD, along with that PXR1 cover of SotA (aren't they related to
Krel/Spacehead?). I think the 2LP version had three PXR1 tracks, right?
Anyway, it's on Black Widow out of Italy. I'm sure Stephan has it (?) and
maybe CDServices in the UK.
>Wasn't that the infamous "Ronnie James Dio sings British Tribal Music", the
>much lauded album of Hawkwind cover versions he recorded in the late-70's
>which got him his job in Black Sabbath?
I thought I heard that Ronnie Dio was planning to reform Elf soon, following
the failed plan to reform the 'original' Rainbow, i.e., Rising era.
Although I think I caught that Bob Daisley was still to be the Elf bassist.
My question, why?
Keith H. (FAA)
P.S. Don't quote me on this...perhaps I dream things.
From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Wed Feb 23 12:19:49 2000
From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:19:49 -0000
Subject: HW: The Elf and the Hawk and the Krel
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.171949.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
PXR1 may be related to Spacehead, but not really to Krel.
Basically, Krel is Martin M as a solo artist at the moment, until he puts a
touring band back together. Last time I talked to Martin (ages ago), he was
in contact with Mike Man and Radar Dave, (all 3 of them original Krel
members, who supported HW on the Electric Tepee Tour). I'm not sure if he
has got onto the road yet, but his plans definitely didn't include Mr. Dibs
on bass!
For those of you who didn't realise, Dibs was bassist in Krel, and when he
was ejected from the band, whereby he formed Spacehead. After the 1992 HW
tour, Krel continued to issue cassette albums (seriously good too!) and
eventually, Martin released a brilliant Krel CD a couple of years back. This
was about the time of Distant Horizons and I know which I prefer - by about
a million miles!! I believe that Andy G at CDS Dundee still has the Krel
CD. Any self-respecting space-rock nutter shouldn't be without it!
Guy T.
-----Original Message-----
From: K Henderson [mailto:henderson.120 at OSU.EDU]
Sent: 23 February 2000 17:05
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
Subject: Re: HW: The Elf and the Hawk
>>I'm sure this has been covered before, but what exactly is
The Elf
>>and the Hawk? (...and where does one obtain a copy of it?)
Basically, the Elf EP (Alan's 2x7" singles) and the Hawkfan
12 reissued on
one CD, along with that PXR1 cover of SotA (aren't they
related to
Krel/Spacehead?). I think the 2LP version had three PXR1
tracks, right?
Anyway, it's on Black Widow out of Italy. I'm sure Stephan
has it (?) and
maybe CDServices in the UK.
>Wasn't that the infamous "Ronnie James Dio sings British
Tribal Music", the
>much lauded album of Hawkwind cover versions he recorded in
the late-70's
>which got him his job in Black Sabbath?
I thought I heard that Ronnie Dio was planning to reform Elf
soon, following
the failed plan to reform the 'original' Rainbow, i.e.,
Rising era.
Although I think I caught that Bob Daisley was still to be
the Elf bassist.
My question, why?
Keith H. (FAA)
P.S. Don't quote me on this...perhaps I dream things.
From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Wed Feb 23 14:04:09 2000
From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:04:09 -0600
Subject: OFF: Drunk Driving
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.130409.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Zebulon Mysterioso wrote:
> > > You don't know what you're missing - the best joints I ever smoked were
> >on
> > > mountaintops....
> > >
> >
> >
> >Mmmmmm, walking through the Redwoods, thick thick fog, Tangerine
> >Dream on the walkman.... bliss.....
>
> Not wishing to endorse substance abuse, but that reminds me of Calvert's
> Test Tube Conceived on the walkman whilst wandering through a ruined castle
> in County Kerry during an intensely pleasant aceeed experience.
> Oh the memories of youth.
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From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Wed Feb 23 13:25:15 2000
From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:25:15 +0100
Subject: Psi Power promo
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.192515.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hello,
Did you know there exist a very rare UK promo.
I have it and it has Death Trap on the B-side.
The number is HL 001,and has promo-copy pressed
on it in the label,or should I say pressed-out as it's
like some other Charisma labels from that time.
Brain Tawn thinks (?) there's only sort of 20 copies of it.
Any more info?
Best wishes
filip hawknut
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From colum26 at YAHOO.COM Wed Feb 23 15:04:54 2000
From: colum26 at YAHOO.COM (=?iso-8859-1?q?colm=20mcwilliams?=)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:04:54 -0800
Subject: HW: The Elf and the Hawk
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.120454.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
if anyone lives in london whos looking for the cd
release i obtained it from selectadisc which is on
berwick street off oxford street. I think they might
have another copy.
colm
--- K Henderson <henderson.120 at OSU.EDU> wrote:
> >>I'm sure this has been covered before, but what
> exactly is The Elf
> >>and the Hawk? (...and where does one obtain a copy
> of it?)
>
> Basically, the Elf EP (Alan's 2x7" singles) and the
> Hawkfan 12 reissued on
> one CD, along with that PXR1 cover of SotA (aren't
> they related to
> Krel/Spacehead?).
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From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Feb 23 15:07:30 2000
From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:07:30 EST
Subject: HW: The Elf and the Hawk
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.150730.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/23/00 10:09:58 AM Pacific Standard Time,
henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes:
> Basically, the Elf EP (Alan's 2x7" singles) and the Hawkfan 12 reissued on
> one CD, along with that PXR1 cover of SotA (aren't they related to
> Krel/Spacehead?).
Phil Howard of Spacehead appears on the track.
I think the 2LP version had three PXR1 tracks, right?
> Anyway, it's on Black Widow out of Italy. I'm sure Stephan has it (?) and
> maybe CDServices in the UK.
I just bought it off of a guy selling his own stuff on the Internet. Good
find, Black Widow not being the most accessible label, though I suppose one
might always write to them if all else fails...
Chuck
From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Wed Feb 23 15:07:49 2000
From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:07:49 -0500
Subject: OFF: smoking
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.150749.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Nah, we are gonna keep on raking the leaves, never mind if
the tree is about to fall on the house.
Just a joke, I agree with you.
But I still wouldn't recommend them to anyone.
The only regrets I have concerning my use of drugs, is that they
were a severe distraction when I should have been learning.
RJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Parr <age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 8:12 AM
Subject: OFF: smoking
>Well, this has gone on for a while.
>Apart from smoking, what about the effects of living in polluted cities?
>Seems odd that people put up with, and heavily contribute to the amount of
>car fumes we all have to breathe in.
>What about the steep rise in asthma in young kids?
>All so easy to divert to "smoking" and the "dangers of drugs".
>When have anybodys kids ever listened to their parents?
>Keep the barrels rolling.
>And if you wanna smoke, smoke.
>If you wanna take drugs, take drugs.
> Blah blah blah
>Age
From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Feb 23 15:16:55 2000
From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:16:55 EST
Subject: HW: The Elf and the Hawk
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.151655.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/23/00 9:48:29 AM Pacific Standard Time,
akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU writes:
> I'm sure this has been covered before, but what exactly is The Elf
> and the Hawk? (...and where does one obtain a copy of it?)
As Keith said, it is basically Hawkfan 12 and Davey's '87 EP.
Hawkfan 12
Hawkwind--Countdown (BBC Radio 1 version)
" --Ejection (not a version I'd heard, '82 w/Nik)
Dark Empire--The Human Race
Syndrone-Synprovisation
Hawkwind--Ghost Dance (same version as Undisclosed Files, but shorter; UF
credits the drums to Danny Thompson while Tawn's Hawkfan liner notes credit
Clive Deamer; interesting, since I'd always though the drums during the build
up were pretty dynamic for Thompson)
M. Moorcock's Deep Fix and Brain Tawn--The Tale of the Entropy Tango
Underground Zero--Aimless Flight
Dave Brock--Burn Me Up (this was not originally part of the Hawkfan
record--from whence does this come?? as I said, sounds like '94)
Then the Davey EP:
Solar Gig
Cosmic Dawn
Chinese Whispers
Ode to a Bass Assassin
The Switch (Don't Touch...)
Then two bonus Davey tracks not originally part of the Hawkfan
record--Fractal Hunter and Space Rock (I think these sounded like they were
from the same sessions as the EP)
PXR1--Spirit of the Age (this alone is worth whatever you pay for the disc)
From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Wed Feb 23 15:35:44 2000
From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:35:44 -0000
Subject: HW: The Elf and the Hawk
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.203544.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Cheers - and where am I tomorrow afternoon? Ah - working on Oxford Street -
how convenient!
---
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Sonic Energy Authority
http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/
"It is the business of the future to be dangerous;
and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its
duties."
----- Original Message -----
From: colm mcwilliams <colum26 at YAHOO.COM>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: HW: The Elf and the Hawk
> if anyone lives in london whos looking for the cd
> release i obtained it from selectadisc which is on
> berwick street off oxford street. I think they might
> have another copy.
>
> colm
>
>
> --- K Henderson <henderson.120 at OSU.EDU> wrote:
> > >>I'm sure this has been covered before, but what
> > exactly is The Elf
> > >>and the Hawk? (...and where does one obtain a copy
> > of it?)
> >
> > Basically, the Elf EP (Alan's 2x7" singles) and the
> > Hawkfan 12 reissued on
> > one CD, along with that PXR1 cover of SotA (aren't
> > they related to
> > Krel/Spacehead?).
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From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Feb 23 17:51:34 2000
From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:51:34 -0500
Subject: HW: Reefer Madness (was Re: OFF: smoking etc.)
In-Reply-To: <4.3.0.40.0.20000221194721.00aa7eb0@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de>; from denis@D-RIDER.DE on Mon, Feb 21,
2000 at 07:49:48PM +0100
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.175134.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 07:49:48PM +0100, Denis Regenbrecht wrote:
> At 18:05 21.02.00, Paul Mather wrote:
>
> >Trying to steer this marginally on-topic, recently I had the enormous
> >pleasure of watching the film _Reefer Madness_ (thanks to the Virginia
> >Tech library), and I heartily recommend it to all! I especially liked
> >the part where the floozie dives to her death out of the upper floor
> >window because she can bear no longer the thought of the moral
> >degeneration she has wrought with the evil weed!
>
> [From _Reefer Madness_]:
>
> "[...] Its first effect is sudden violent, uncontrollable laughter; then
> comes dangerous hallucinations - space expands - time slows down, almost
> stands still ... fixed ideas come next, conjuring monstrous extravagances -
> followed by emotional disturbances, the total inability to direct thoughts,
> the loss of all power to resist physical emotions, leading finally to acts
> of shocking violence ... ending often in incurable insanity.
> In picturing its soul-destroying effects no attempt was made to equivocate.
> The scenes and incidents, while fictionized for the purposes of this story,
> are based upon actual research into the results of Marihuana addiction [...]"
>
Heh. I knew the "civil defence" part of Sonic Attack was a parody, but I
hadn't realized the "symptoms" bit was too. Cool!
--
| | /\
|-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com
| | /
to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of
ridicule. he was NOT a loser.
thank you, Mr. Schulz.
- Robert C. Mayo
From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Feb 23 18:28:18 2000
From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:28:18 +0000
Subject: HW: Reefer Madness (was Re: OFF: smoking etc.)
In-Reply-To: <20000223175133.A9627@telepres.com>
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.232818.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 17:51 23.02.2000 -0500, Eric Siegerman wrote:
>> [From _Reefer Madness_]:
>>
>> "[...] Its first effect is sudden violent, uncontrollable laughter; then
>> comes dangerous hallucinations - space expands - time slows down, almost
>> stands still ... fixed ideas come next, conjuring monstrous extravagances -
>> followed by emotional disturbances, the total inability to direct thoughts,
>> the loss of all power to resist physical emotions, leading finally to acts
>> of shocking violence ... ending often in incurable insanity.
>> In picturing its soul-destroying effects no attempt was made to equivocate.
>> The scenes and incidents, while fictionized for the purposes of this story,
>> are based upon actual research into the results of Marihuana addiction
[...]"
>>
>
>Heh. I knew the "civil defence" part of Sonic Attack was a parody, but I
>hadn't realized the "symptoms" bit was too. Cool!
>
>--
More sinisterly, Check out a poem called "Your Attention Please" (IIRC) by
Peter Porter which had a big effect on me some years before I ever heard
"Sonic Attack" - It was in an anthology we used at school(!) called "Impact
2".
On the bizarre side, I also recall "The Crab-Apple" crisis by George
Macbeth (I think) which draws a hysterical parallel between the levels of
nuclear escalation and a dispute between neighbours over a tree. I found
that in a book (which I'd love to own a copy of) called "Holding Your Eight
Hand: An anthology of science fiction poetry" edited by Edward Lucie-Smith
(IIRC again) - almost certainly a book of interest to HW fans, although I
don't think there was any Calvert or Moorcock in it....
Literarily Yours,
ChrisW
NP: Live At The Padget Rooms Penarth - Man
P.S. Beware MS Dialup Networking 1.3 upgrade - it's had me offline for 24
hrs!!!!
(I know, Iknow, I should be using Linux/Mac/ZX Spectrum....)
"a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" -
Bierce
From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Feb 23 18:46:17 2000
From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:46:17 -0000
Subject: Moorcock in the Guardian
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.234617.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
MM features in a full page interview in today's Guardian (23.02.00). HW get a one line mention. Moorcock is described as having played banjo for Brian Eno - a reference to Bob Calvert's Lucky Lief produced by Eno?
Dave
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From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Feb 23 18:50:56 2000
From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:50:56 -0000
Subject: Hawkwind 2000
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.235056.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I hope the current line-up survives and manages to gig in the UK. Maybe HW will follow the path of Gong i.e. floating and interchangeable line-ups - could be good- could be brilliant!
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From denis at D-RIDER.DE Wed Feb 23 19:06:30 2000
From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:06:30 +0100
Subject: Hawkwind 2000
In-Reply-To: <005901bf7e58$d4a26ea0$7836883e@default>
Message-ID: <THU.24.FEB.2000.010630.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi,
david hall wrote:
>I hope the current line-up survives and manages to gig in the UK. Maybe HW
>will follow the path of Gong i.e. floating and interchangeable line-ups -
>could be good- could be brilliant!
I totally agree with that! Especially Simon is (again) a very good addition
to the band. I hope he'll stay for a while. And Harvey too! Is Steve Taylor
any good? I only heard him on the SD97 live tape. Is he capable?
BTW, HW should also come to Germany this year, pleeeeaaaaassse! The last
time they were here was 1996, so it's time to tour on the Continent again.
mfg
D+R
From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Feb 23 19:08:26 2000
From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 00:08:26 -0000
Subject: HW: Reefer Madness (was Re: OFF: smoking etc.)
Message-ID: <THU.24.FEB.2000.000826.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Warburton <desdinova at EARTHLING.NET>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: HW: Reefer Madness (was Re: OFF: smoking etc.)
> >Heh. I knew the "civil defence" part of Sonic Attack was a parody,
but I
> >hadn't realized the "symptoms" bit was too. Cool!
> >
> >--
> More sinisterly, Check out a poem called "Your Attention Please"
(IIRC) by
> Peter Porter which had a big effect on me some years before I ever
heard
> "Sonic Attack" - It was in an anthology we used at school(!) called
"Impact
> 2".
yeah - excellent poem (if it's the one I'm thinking of). He was Writer
in Residence in the English Lit department at Edinburgh Univ for a while
when I was working there.
jill
From novadrive at HOME.COM Wed Feb 23 19:36:47 2000
From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:36:47 -0700
Subject: Hawkwind 2000
In-Reply-To: <005901bf7e58$d4a26ea0$7836883e@default>
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.173647.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Please, please, please keep Harvey.
Pretty please?
Kevin Sommers
primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu
<http://members.home.net/novadrive/>
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On
Behalf Of david hall
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 4:51 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
Subject: Hawkwind 2000
I hope the current line-up survives and manages to gig in the UK. Maybe HW
will follow the path of Gong i.e. floating and interchangeable line-ups -
could be good- could be brilliant!
Dave
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From colum26 at YAHOO.COM Wed Feb 23 20:19:27 2000
From: colum26 at YAHOO.COM (=?iso-8859-1?q?colm=20mcwilliams?=)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:19:27 -0800
Subject: Hawkwind 2000
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.171927.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
not to sure about keeping harvey in the band,
hopefully simon house makes a permenant comeback to
hawkwind. Maybe Dave Brock will let him loose on
keyboards aswell! Get those old 70's analogue synths
on the go again, that would be cool!
colm
--- Kevin Sommers <novadrive at HOME.COM> wrote:
> Please, please, please keep Harvey.
>
>
> Pretty please?
>
> Kevin Sommers
>
> primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu
>
> <http://members.home.net/novadrive/>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List
> [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On
> Behalf Of david hall
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 4:51 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: Hawkwind 2000
>
>
> I hope the current line-up survives and manages to
> gig in the UK. Maybe HW
> will follow the path of Gong i.e. floating and
> interchangeable line-ups -
> could be good- could be brilliant!
>
> Dave
>
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From gumby at TELIS.ORG Wed Feb 23 21:01:52 2000
From: gumby at TELIS.ORG (Thomas Nelson)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:01:52 -0800
Subject: BOC: Setlist for 2/21/00
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.180152.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
<Sent out to the BOC discussion list>
Hi there,
Got to see the Oysterboys play at Club West in Eureka on 2/21/00.
Here's the setlist:
Stairway to the Stars
OD'ed on Life Itself
ETI
Harvest Moon
This Ain't the Summer of Love
ME 262
Teen Archer
Buck's Boogie
Subhuman
Joan Crawford
Cities on Flame
Burnin' for You
Harvester of Eyes
Then Came the Last Days of May
Godzilla (w/ bass and drum solos)
Buck Solo
Don't Fear the Reaper
Encore:
The Red and the Black
Notes and comments:
I was pleasantly surprised at some of the song choices, and slightly
disappointed on some songs that were missing (none of the new tunes
and no Dom and Submiss). It was wonderful to hear Subhuman (not the
Imaginos track), Teen Archer (I didn't recognize it at first), This
Ain't the Summmer, and Joan Crawford. Ending JC, Allen played a long
and wonderful keyboard solo in the classical JC style.
Unfortunately, some idiot through his or her beverage up on the stage
at that point. Some of the spray landed on Eric. He seemed quite
agitated and warned everybody that the show would end if that
happened again. "Find out who did that, knock him on the head, and
throw him out of here!" Eric told the small crowd. I suspect this
may be why we only received one encore song.
I didn't like the faster version of Last Days of May, although during
Buck's solo, I was impressed with the band's ability to play at a
speed metal tempo.
EB did his usual Godzilla intro: "Is it Rodan? Is it Gamera? Is it
Ghidrah the three-headed space monster?" The bass and drum solos
were fun.
EB's voice sounded strong. Buck was his usual relaxed and positive
self. Allen didn't look so great, but at least he was there. And he
seemed almost energetic.
There wasn't a t-shirt booth set up that I could see and no mention
made of any new recordings.
My wife and I enjoyed ourselves. It was her first BOC show.
Take Care Everybody!
Thomas
The Gumby Man
"And have I not told you that what you mistake for madness is but
over-acuteness of the senses?"
"The Tell-tale Heart"
by Edgar Allan Poe
From gumby at TELIS.ORG Wed Feb 23 21:03:07 2000
From: gumby at TELIS.ORG (Thomas Nelson)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:03:07 -0800
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.180307.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Here are some setlists submitted to the newsgroup. I thought y'all
would be interested in how much the sets are changing everyday!
Set list from WA Friday 2-18-00
stairway
before the kiss
subhuman
eti
harvest moon
career of evil
joan crawford
cities
burnin'
harvester of eyes
teen archer
eye of the hurricane
LDOM
me262
zilla
reaper
..........
pocket
d&s
************************************
Setlist for Tacoma on 2/19/00 (I think)
Stairway
ME 262
Teen Archer
ETI
Harvest Moon
Take Me Away
Subhuman
Joan Crawford
Cities on Flame
Burnin For You
Harvester of Eyes
Golden Age of Leather
Astronomy
I'd Like to See You in Black
Godzilla
Reaper
Pocket
Dominance and Submission
************************************
Setlist for Portland 2/20/00
Stairway
B4 the Kiss
Subhuman
Buck's Boogie
Unknown Tongue
Teen Archer
Cities Aflame
Burning for You
Harvester of Eyes
The Vigil
Pocket
See You in Black
Golden Age of Leather
Godzilla
Reaper
Eye of the Hurricane
Dominance and Submission
************************************
Setlist for Eureka, CA 2/21/00 (I just posted this one)
Stairway to the Stars
OD'ed on Life Itself
ETI
Harvest Moon
This Ain't the Summer of Love
ME 262
Teen Archer
Buck's Boogie
Subhuman
Joan Crawford
Cities on Flame
Burnin' for You
Harvester of Eyes
Then Came the Last Days of May
Godzilla (w/ bass and drum solos)
Buck Solo
Don't Fear the Reaper
Encore:
The Red and the Black
"And have I not told you that what you mistake for madness is but
over-acuteness of the senses?"
"The Tell-tale Heart"
by Edgar Allan Poe
From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Wed Feb 23 22:01:37 2000
From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:01:37 -0500
Subject: BOC: Re: (Setlists of the telescopes)
In-Reply-To: <v04220804b4da3fd8e293@[209.209.19.169]>
Message-ID: <WED.23.FEB.2000.220137.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 18:03 2.23.00 -0800, you wrote:
>Here are some setlists submitted to the newsgroup. I thought y'all
>would be interested in how much the sets are changing everyday!
[Snipped sets]
Wow! Seems 3OC is finally getting savvy to the idea of varied setlists.
Shows you it pays to have a regular band lineup on bass an drums for a spell.
YAY!
Idea for the strangest BOC/Hawkwind combination song: We were bork to rock...
As far as we can fly
on flame with public policy analysis (choke splutter)
Jason
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"I'm in a FOUL mood today. Stay outa my way or I'll CRITIQUE YOUR ASS to
hell. Just ME, just YOU...a decent song. You wanna see THEM, see THEM. I
don't give a ****." - Richard Meltzer
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From pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Feb 24 06:55:40 2000
From: pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM (Juba N)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:55:40 GMT
Subject: HW: The Elf and the Hawk
Message-ID: <THU.24.FEB.2000.115540.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi!
I have copies for sale of "Elf & The Hawk". Price : $ 10 or
? 6.Including p&p.
Mail me!
Juba
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From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu Feb 24 09:46:04 2000
From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:46:04 +0800
Subject: Hawkwind 2000
In-Reply-To: <20000224011927.5260.qmail@web216.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <THU.24.FEB.2000.224604.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Whatever line-up they use, lets hope they do a proper tour of Australia,
instead of just one state!
William
PS 15 mins until their appearance on telly here.
From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu Feb 24 10:20:18 2000
From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:20:18 +0800
Subject: Hawkwind on Studio 22
In-Reply-To: <LNBBLFLGFIDECPMIAKDHGEJLCOAA.xl5@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <THU.24.FEB.2000.232018.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Doesn't look like they are on tonight after all. It's nearly finished and
all they have had is Dr John. When is it being screened???
William
From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Feb 24 09:51:26 2000
From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:51:26 -0500
Subject: Hawkwind 2000
Message-ID: <THU.24.FEB.2000.095126.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>Whatever line-up they use, lets hope they do a proper tour of Australia,
>instead of just one state!
That's how I feel about their US "tours", they never go down south. Usually
it's just some sites around the northeast, maybe a couple midwest, and maybe
California.
"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random
===============
Andrew Apold
From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu Feb 24 10:34:42 2000
From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:34:42 +0800
Subject: Hawkwind on Studio 22
In-Reply-To: <LNBBLFLGFIDECPMIAKDHGEJLCOAA.xl5@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <THU.24.FEB.2000.233442.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hello again
I'm I right in guessing that even though they recorded the programme today,
we have to wait until March 30th (another 5 weeks) to see it?
Anyone have a possible set list for the performance?
William
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Feb 24 11:14:42 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:14:42 -0000
Subject: Hawkwind on Studio 22
In-Reply-To: <LNBBLFLGFIDECPMIAKDHEEJMCOAA.xl5@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <THU.24.FEB.2000.161442.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
That's what I understand to be the case. Sonique was going to the
recording, so he ought to have an idea of what they played (whether it all
gets used is another story).
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On
> Behalf Of William Duffy
> Sent: 24 February 2000 15:35
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: Re: Hawkwind on Studio 22
>
>
> Hello again
>
> I'm I right in guessing that even though they recorded the
> programme today,
> we have to wait until March 30th (another 5 weeks) to see it?
> Anyone have a possible set list for the performance?
>
> William
>
From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu Feb 24 11:30:08 2000
From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 00:30:08 +0800
Subject: Hawkwind on Studio 22
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLNNCENLINIMONNCJKEBBCDAA.Andy.Gilham@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.25.FEB.2000.003008.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Dr John performed for the full 30 mins (including interviews). Do all
artists appear for this long? If so, It will be even better.
I suppose the wait will also give us all time to let a lot more people know
of their appearance.
William
>
> That's what I understand to be the case. Sonique was going to the
> recording, so he ought to have an idea of what they played (whether it all
> gets used is another story).
>
> -- Andy
>
> mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On
> > Behalf Of William Duffy
> > Sent: 24 February 2000 15:35
> > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> > Subject: Re: Hawkwind on Studio 22
> >
> >
> > Hello again
> >
> > I'm I right in guessing that even though they recorded the
> > programme today,
> > we have to wait until March 30th (another 5 weeks) to see it?
> > Anyone have a possible set list for the performance?
> >
> > William
> >
>
From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu Feb 24 12:26:06 2000
From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 01:26:06 +0800
Subject: Hawkwind titles I've never heard of??
Message-ID: <FRI.25.FEB.2000.012606.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi there
There's an Australian web page for a retail store called Sanity. On their
web site, they list some Hawkwind titles I've never heard of. If anyone else
is curious, It's on http://www.sanity.com.au/.
Maybe they are bootlegs?
At the bottom they list other artists Hawkwind are similar to, including
Joan Baez????
William
From micci at SCI.FI Thu Feb 24 12:32:31 2000
From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 19:32:31 +0200
Subject: off:Dark Sun
Message-ID: <THU.24.FEB.2000.193231.0200.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi!
Finnish space rockers Dark Sun have their own web site at:
http://hop.to/darksun/
They are also selling DS shirts, check it out! New live album called Ice
Ritual feat. Nik Turner out soon.
Miikka Wagner
email: micci at sci.fi
http://www.sci.fi/~micci
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Feb 24 12:51:40 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:51:40 -0000
Subject: Hawkwind titles I've never heard of??
In-Reply-To: <LNBBLFLGFIDECPMIAKDHOEJNCOAA.xl5@iinet.net.au>
Message-ID: <THU.24.FEB.2000.175140.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hmm - dunno about some of these, they look like database errors frankly
("Sub Phunk Beats?", but if anyone was looking for the New Christs'
DISTEMPER or DIVINE RITES, they list both at good prices!
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On
> Behalf Of William Duffy
> Sent: 24 February 2000 17:26
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: Hawkwind titles I've never heard of??
>
>
> Hi there
>
> There's an Australian web page for a retail store called Sanity. On their
> web site, they list some Hawkwind titles I've never heard of. If
> anyone else
> is curious, It's on http://www.sanity.com.au/.
> Maybe they are bootlegs?
>
> At the bottom they list other artists Hawkwind are similar to, including
> Joan Baez????
>
> William
>
From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Thu Feb 24 13:02:26 2000
From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 18:02:26 +0000
Subject: Hawkwind titles I've never heard of??
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:51:40 GMT."
<LPBBLNNCENLINIMONNCJGEBDCDAA.Andy.Gilham@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <THU.24.FEB.2000.180226.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> Hmm - dunno about some of these, they look like database errors frankly
> ("Sub Phunk Beats?", but if anyone was looking for the New Christs'
> DISTEMPER or DIVINE RITES, they list both at good prices!
>
Eh , what ?
cool.
Thanks for waking me up Andy. I'd just about given up on boc-l of late !
Tim
From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu Feb 24 13:01:24 2000
From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:01:24 +0800
Subject: Hawkwind titles I've never heard of??
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLNNCENLINIMONNCJGEBDCDAA.Andy.Gilham@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.25.FEB.2000.020124.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I agree. There's an apparent Golden Earring album with the title The Best of
John Coltraine (or something along those lines). The prices are very good
for Australia, and they even list Thrilling Stories (anyone got it yet?).
William
> Hmm - dunno about some of these, they look like database errors frankly
> ("Sub Phunk Beats?", but if anyone was looking for the New Christs'
> DISTEMPER or DIVINE RITES, they list both at good prices!
>
> -- Andy
>
> mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On
> > Behalf Of William Duffy
> > Sent: 24 February 2000 17:26
> > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> > Subject: Hawkwind titles I've never heard of??
> >
> >
> > Hi there
> >
> > There's an Australian web page for a retail store called
> Sanity. On their
> > web site, they list some Hawkwind titles I've never heard of. If
> > anyone else
> > is curious, It's on http://www.sanity.com.au/.
> > Maybe they are bootlegs?
> >
> > At the bottom they list other artists Hawkwind are similar to, including
> > Joan Baez????
> >
> > William
> >
>
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Feb 24 13:15:33 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:15:33 -0500
Subject: OFF: Love in Space
Message-ID: <THU.24.FEB.2000.131533.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
HOUSTON, Feb. 23 (UPI) -- A decade-old old Internet hoax about
NASA "space sex experiments" has again popped up to excite and confuse
the public, space experts have learned.
In response, NASA officials have severely criticized those in
the news media who presented the material without adequate verification.
The media's attention was revived this week by publicity
swirling about the release of a book by French astronomer Pierre Kohler
called, "The Final Mission," to be published in Paris on Thursday. In
advance publicity, Kohler described the contents of an allegedly secret
NASA report about experiments involving different sexual positions in the
zero-gravity conditions of weightlessness.
The press reports say the book, a chronology of Russia's Mir
space station published by Calmann-Levy in Paris, describes a "Document
12-571-3570" detailing 10 different male-female positions which were
actually tested on space shuttle mission STS-75. The shuttle mission was
launched in early 1996. Most of the positions involved physical restraint
systems to keep the couples close together.
Neither the publisher nor the author, a prolific author of
popular books on astronomy, space, and UFOs, could be reached for
comment.
NASA officials have branded the document and its contents a
hoax. "There is no truth to it at all," declared Johnson Space Center
spokesman Eileen Hawley in Houston. She told UPI she had first seen the
bogus report five years ago, and on some Internet sites it is identified
as having been posted from the University of Iowa in 1989.
Brian Welch, NASA's 'Director of Media Services', was more
vehement. "We categorically deny there is any such document," he told
UPI. "This is a fairly well-known 'urban legend'", he continued, and
expressed dismay that anyone could still be taken in by it without
checking it out.
And in an exclusive interview with UPI, Dr. Rhea Seddon, one
of America's first women astronauts, called the reports "ludicrous". She
continued, "In my opinion, the story is pure fabrication."
Allegations of sexual activity in space have circulated for
almost as long as there have been mixed crews on manned spacecraft. Among
space flight experts, it is commonly believed that such private activity
has actually occurred.
In August 1982, Russian cosmonaut and aerobatics pilot
Svetlana Savitskaya spent a week aboard the Salyut-7 space station in
the company of four male cosmonauts. "They greeted me at the hatch with
an apron," she later recalled, and then tersely described how she
rebuffed that attitude and established a professional working
relationship with them.
Less than a year later, America's first woman in space, Sally
Ride, shared a space shuttle cabin with four men for a week.
Since then, more than thirty women have taken part in space
shuttle missions as regular crewmembers. One Russian and one American
woman have conducted months-long tours on the Mir space station.
In September 1992, two married astronauts flew aboard STS-47,
a "Spacelab" science mission. Mark Lee and Jan Davis got married after
being assigned to the crew. They were divorced several years later.
Although spacecraft are commonly thought to be crowded and
lacking in privacy, shuttle missions with Spacelab modules do provide
extra room as well as private space in small bunks with sliding doors. In
addition, manned space vehicles tend to be very noisy, with loud fans and
other mechanical equipment providing a background din.
Consequently, experts who spoke privately with UPI do not
consider it implausible that men and women in space have on occasion
engaged in traditional off-hours paired recreational activities. "I'd be
astonished if it hasn't happened," one told UPI, "and it's nobody else's
business."
But these same space medical experts said it was easy to
recognize the Internet report of an official experiment as a hoax. There
is no such NASA program looking at psychological aspects of long-duration
space flight. And they agreed with Welch's assertion that the alleged
document's identification number wasn't even consistent with NASA
standards.
Houston space center official Eileen Hawley also pointed out
that the cited shuttle mission, STS-75, had carried seven men and no
women.
Seddon, an medical doctor who made three shuttle missions
between 1985 and 1993, was a specialist in space medical experiments and
now serves on one of NASA's advisory councils for life science research.
"I have never heard of any experiments that even vaguely resemble those
mentioned in the article," she told UPI.
She found the entire idea of sexual space experiments
implausible: "I cannot imagine that the many review panels that must
approve research on the Shuttle would ever let this go forward, that any
crew members would sign up for it or that any Shuttle Commander would
allow it to be a part of his or her flight," she went on.
Seddon concluded: "All astronauts are serious, professional
people who work very hard to make sure the time they are given in space
is used in the most efficient and responsible way."
Welch expressed similar exasperation at the news stories.
"What is frustrating about this is that these news agencies didn't bother
to call NASA to check on the story," he told UPI. "NASA has officially
asked Agence France Presse for a retraction of its story," he added.
"There's no reason that American taxpayers should have to
watch their civil servants having to bat down these silly rumors," he
concluded.
--
Copyright 2000 by United Press International.
All rights reserved.
From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Feb 24 02:12:20 2000
From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (IAN ABRAHAMS)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:12:20 -0000
Subject: HW: The Elf and the Hawk
Message-ID: <THU.24.FEB.2000.071220.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
There's three or four CD shops down Berwick Street as I recall, all well
worth a visit. If you're walking up Oxford Street from Virgin, it's a left
turn just before Borders I think?
Ian
----- Original Message -----
From: colm mcwilliams <colum26 at YAHOO.COM>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: HW: The Elf and the Hawk
> if anyone lives in london whos looking for the cd
> release i obtained it from selectadisc which is on
> berwick street off oxford street. I think they might
> have another copy.
>
> colm
>
>
> --- K Henderson <henderson.120 at OSU.EDU> wrote:
> > >>I'm sure this has been covered before, but what
> > exactly is The Elf
> > >>and the Hawk? (...and where does one obtain a copy
> > of it?)
> >
> > Basically, the Elf EP (Alan's 2x7" singles) and the
> > Hawkfan 12 reissued on
> > one CD, along with that PXR1 cover of SotA (aren't
> > they related to
> > Krel/Spacehead?).
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From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Feb 24 22:14:40 2000
From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 19:14:40 -0800
Subject: Andy G enters the Hawkwind fold
Message-ID: <THU.24.FEB.2000.191440.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi To One And All,
The 'Thrilling Adventures' CD will be in stock at CD Services (surely
you all know about us and where we are by now?) in Scotland in three or
four days time.
The question that's being most asked is if the single CD in the USA,
with tracks overlapping with the UK double 'Atomhenge' is going to be
the same concert or has Dave supplied something different to the UK and
the USA - we hope to have an answer in a week or so once we get to hear
the double, but there's still no release date attached to the double -
bizarre as ever.
For those who don't know, there's a Space News web site ongoing in a
small way at:
http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/andygee/space.htm
No doubt we'll speak again,
Andy G (CD Services/Dead Earnest)
From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Thu Feb 24 14:56:28 2000
From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:56:28 -0800
Subject: HW: Ridicule
Message-ID: <THU.24.FEB.2000.115628.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Did a little investigation last night on this, Yeah, mine is bronzing
as well, on the top only. I've also noticed this on some other discs
of mine, mid-period Test Dept.
Further examination revealed a clue! If you look at your copy of
Ridicule, at the inner ring, you'll see these words (may not be an
*exact* quote, it was late and my brain was still reeling from seeing
"Stomp!" - ye Gods, if you get a chance, go!)
Anyway, it says "Made in UK by PDO"
Guess what? The Test Dept discs with the same problem have the same
maker. I then looked at *every* UK-made disc I have (damn, that's a
lot of discs!), and none that weren't PDO were bronzed.
Looks like PDO is a small-time disc mfg that had something odd going
on in their process.....
scorch
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stephan Spiegel
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2000 10:08 PM
> Subject: HW: Ridicule
>
>
> Is everyone's copy of Ridicule turning from silver to gold?
> I checked out mine the other day and it looks like it's
> getting darker and darker. Hope it doesn't someday
> refuse to play....
>
> Mine is ok - gold on the back but still silver on the playing surface.
>
From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Feb 24 15:23:17 2000
From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:23:17 -0500
Subject: HW: Gig sources for Stonehenge (This is Hawkwind, Do Not Panic)?
Message-ID: <THU.24.FEB.2000.152317.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I just got a copy---at long last---of _Stonehenge (This is Hawkwind, Do
Not Panic)_ on CD (my Flicknife vinyl currently resides in the UK), and
I was wondering if anyone knew from which gig(s) the songs were taken?
According to the liner notes, the material was recorded in 1980 and 1984
(the latter being the tracks from the 12", I suspect). Also, who is
playing on which tracks (is Ginger drumming on everything up to the 12"
tracks?)?
I'd forgotten just how much I like this album!
Cheers,
Paul.
NP: Hawkwind, _Stonehenge (This is Hawkwind, Do Not Panic)_
e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
"Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production
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--- Frank Vincent Zappa
From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Thu Feb 24 16:27:19 2000
From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:27:19 -0500
Subject: OFF: BLOODROCK LSDOA
Message-ID: <THU.24.FEB.2000.162719.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Posted to:
alt.binaries.mp3
alt.binaries.music.mp3
alt.binaries.sounds.1970s.mp3
alt.binaries.sounds.mp3
alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1970s
alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.classic-rock
alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.rock
Under the nick Karn-fx
Shoddy sound, but if yer curious...
RJ
From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Thu Feb 24 18:33:44 2000
From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 17:33:44 -0600
Subject: Nik Turner?
Message-ID: <THU.24.FEB.2000.173344.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Does anyone have news about Nik Turner? I was expecting Kubano Kickasso to
come out soon. Is he planning to come to the USA anytime this year?
Informtion greatly appreciated!
From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Thu Feb 24 18:58:56 2000
From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:58:56 +1100
Subject: HW: Studio 22 & The Metro
Message-ID: <FRI.25.FEB.2000.105856.1100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi people,
Well, I'm home from Sydney and what can I say but WOW!!!
I've only had a few hours rest on a park bench outside Sydney airport this
morning, so I'll keep this short - full review in a few days time.
Studio 22 is a rather small TV studio with the band arranged in a circle
facing each other and the audience seated around the outside of the band.
Close, personal with 80 or 100 fans packed in to the small space.
The very informal track list was:
Assassins of Allah
Utopia
Love in Space
Free Fall
Brainstorm/Reefer Madness (excerpt)/Brainstorm
And "they want us to finish with Silver Machine" say Dave as he consults his
Lyric Book. Audience participation unit was well activated for that one.
Strange setting, but it rocked!
A few hours (& pints of Caffreys) later it was time for the main event. About
800 people in a 1000 capacity venue eagerly awaited thier idols. Jim's light
show and the intro track began ... the track list (probably in the wrong
order - my brain isn't functioning yet) was:
Right Stuff
Arrival In Utopia/Utopia
Motorway City
Free Fall
Space is their Palestine
Interstellar Chaos (I think - had some vocals by Jerry as well)
Spirit of the Age
Assassins of Allah
Assault & Battery/Golden Void/some Techno thing
Forge of the Vulcan
Brainstorm/Sonic Attack/Brainstorm
(Did I miss anything Marty???)
After much chanting of HAWKWIND HAWKWIND HAWKWIND they reappeared for:
Ejection
Gremlin
Welcome to the Future
What a show! A few technical glitches early on (at one stage Dave called out
something like "I keep tripping over these fucking cords"), and Harvey had
some Midi problems, but after the first few tracks things really came
together.
Kris's fire dancing was great, as was the light show. Jerry Richards is a
great new Asset and Steve did a fine job filling in for Ron on Bass.
Unbelievable seeing Simon and Harvey back in there too ...
Before the show met up with heaps of people I've been in contact with over
the years, and of course afterwards finally met Jim Lasko and then went
backstage to meet the band. Spent a bit of time talking to Steve and Jerry,
but by then Dave had vanished!! (Luckily I'd had a chance for a quick chat
before that)
The best moment of the evening for me? Halfway through the show looking down
at the crowd and realising what I was sharing with so many fellow Aussies.
That was the ultimate feeling! I think everyone there owes Neil Brice a huge
THANKYOU for making this happen.
The worst part of the evening? Think about the above later on and realising
that so many others couldn't travel to see them or perhaps didn't know about
it. Plans are afoot for something bigger next year though, so all is not lost!
Time for sleep now :-)
Sonique
PS: And who was it at Happy Valley introducing themselves to Jim and Dave as
me??????????
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From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Fri Feb 25 07:28:50 2000
From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:28:50 +0000
Subject: HW: Reefer Madness (was Re: OFF: smoking etc.)
Message-ID: <FRI.25.FEB.2000.122850.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Also check out "The Right Stuff"
Paul Mather wrote:
> Trying to steer this marginally on-topic, recently I had the enormous
> pleasure of watching the film _Reefer Madness_ (thanks to the Virginia
> Tech library), and I heartily recommend it to all! I especially liked
> the part where the floozie dives to her death out of the upper floor
> window because she can bear no longer the thought of the moral
> degeneration she has wrought with the evil weed!
>
> 100% realism guaranteed throughout!!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.
>
> NP: Gov't Mule, _Life Before Insanity_
>
> e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu
>
> "It's evil, wicked, mean and nasty!"
> --- Steppenwolf, "Don't Step on the Grass, Sam"
>
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, M Holmes wrote:
>
> => Nick English writes:
> =>
> => > As the father of a 4-year-old, I generally tend to look at things
> => > from the perspective of what I want my son getting involved with and
> => > what I don't. In that sense, tobacco, alcohol and the "illegals" are
> => > all taboo.
> =>
> => Indeed, and the Prohibitionists often tell us that their excesses are
> => excused by the need to Prooootect the Chilruuun, missing the point that
> => in Prohibition these substances are functionally uncontrolled and their
> => distribution handed to criminals rather than controlled and their
> => distribution handled by retailers who have a profitable licence to lose
> => if they sell to children.
> =>
> => But then logic never seems to have been a strong suit.
> =>
> => FoFP
From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Feb 24 07:47:49 2000
From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:47:49 -0500
Subject: Hawkwind 2000
In-Reply-To: <20000224011927.5260.qmail@web216.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <THU.24.FEB.2000.074749.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 17.19 -0800 00-02-23, colm mcwilliams wrote:
>hopefully simon house makes a permenant comeback to
>hawkwind. Maybe Dave Brock will let him loose on
>keyboards aswell! Get those old 70's analogue synths
>on the go again, that would be cool!
Amen. At the very least a dedicated "color" person, playing
synths/violins/whathaveyou, leaving Dave to play guitar, Richard to
play drums, and whoever is on bass to play bass! That's the way to do
it.
Cheers,
Carl
--
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mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk
From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Feb 25 11:04:22 2000
From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 16:04:22 -0000
Subject: HW: Studio 22 & The Metro
Message-ID: <FRI.25.FEB.2000.160422.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>
> A few hours (& pints of Caffreys)
They sell that FILTH in Australia? Don't you have any decent beer other
than Coopers?
Glad to hear you enjoyed the show...
:-)
Cheers,
Rich.
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From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Feb 25 11:29:28 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:29:28 -0500
Subject: HW: Ridicule/PDO
Message-ID: <FRI.25.FEB.2000.112928.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
>Looks like PDO is a small-time disc mfg that had something odd going
>on in their process.....
>
>scorch
I learned about this from the Dovetail Ozrics CDs which are PDO. My
(original) copy of Pungent Effulgent became unreadable a few years' back.
Strangely, it doesn't appear 'bronzed' (as in the photo at:
http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/bronzed.html), but I was confused by the
coloration that was used (and not part of the problem, as below). However,
I can only assume though that it is a related problem. Actually I never
went through the process of asking for a replacement, as I found a cheap
used copy which for the moment is still readable. But you should check your
Ozrics' CDs to see which are PDO and whether they show signs of deterioration.
Keith H. (FAA)
P.S. There are several websites on this topic, one that explains in more
detail what happens, is http://www.soleilmoon.com/catalog/rot.html
Bronzed CDs
A note about corroding CDs manufactured by Philips & Du Pont Optical
UK Ltd (PDO):
The pressing factory PDO has acknowledged responsibility for producing
some CDs between 1988 and 1993 using a lacquer which was not suitable to
withstand the corrosive effect of the sulphur content of paper used in the
printing of CD booklets and other paper parts. The problem has been
extremely disruptive to us and has caused much embarrassment. We can
only apologise for any alarm and inconvenience caused and assure you of our
commitment to your satisfaction.
The symptoms of the corrosion are obvious. Audibly it manifests first
towards the end of the disc (i.e. the outer edge) and sounds not unlike
rhythmic LP surface noise. Visibly it manifests as a coppery-bronze
discoloration, usually on the edge of the label side of the disc. (NB. It is
NOT the overall yellow tint which is common to all PDO pressings. This is
due to the addition of a tiny amount
of yellow dye which PDO adds to the polycarbonate for cosmetic purposes.)
At the time that PDO were manufacturing the affected CDs for us, they were
also pressing for other classical labels and we suggest that you check any
discs you have from ASV, Unicorn-Kanchana, Pearl, DGG, IMP, Decca and
Collins. Given the nature of the problem of corrosion, in that it progresses
over time, we recommend that you check any suspect discs on, say, a
six-monthly basis. The name of the disc manufacturer is usually (but not
always) engraved around the centre hole of the disc in the transparent area.
If there is no manufacturer's name shown at all then it would be worth
checking with PDO. They have agreed to replace any CDs which are corroding
as a result of the defect. If you have reason to believe that there are
discs in your collection made by PDO which are showing signs of corrosion,
contact PDO directly.
Contacting PDO
UK CUSTOMERS should use either PDO's FREEPHONE helpline or FREEPOST address,
both of which have been set up to deal with complaints and enquiries about
bronzing:
PDO Discs Ltd
Helpline
FREEPOST
BK1080
Blackburn BB1 5BR
FREEPHONE 0800 387063
Fax: 0 1254 54729
Telephone: 0 1254 50 53 54
OVERSEAS CUSTOMERS
cannot use the FREEPHONE or
FREEPOST address, but should
contact PDO at the address below:
Philips & Du Pont Optical
UK Ltd
Philips Road
Blackburn
Lancashire BB1 5RZ
England
Fax: 44 1254 54729
Telephone: +44 0 1254 50
53 54
PDO also has an e-mail address dedicated to this problem:
patburnshelpline at compuserve.com
Customers should NOT return faulty discs to dealers, distributors, or to
Hyperion. They can, if they wish, return the disc to PDO but it is not
necessary. Initially at least, just a letter will do. If they do return any
CDs they should send JUST THE DISC, NOT THE JEWEL CASE OR PRINTED MATTER,
because PDO will replace only the disc.
Although PDO have agreed to replace corroded CDs on our behalf, we are aware
of our responsibilities to our customers and wish to reassure them that we
are committed to seeing that they are ultimately satisfied with our
products. Should you feel that you are not being treated efficiently by PDO,
then please do not hesitate to get in touch with us directly.
Richard Howard
Production Manager
Hyperion Records Limited, London
December 1999
info at hyperion-records.co.uk
From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Fri Feb 25 11:46:53 2000
From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:46:53 +0100
Subject: HW: Gig sources for Stonehenge (This is Hawkwind,
Do Not Panic)?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.21.0002241515560.12474-100000@gromit.dlib.vt.ed u>
Message-ID: <FRI.25.FEB.2000.174653.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi
At 15:23 24.2.2000 -0500, you wrote:
>I just got a copy---at long last---of _Stonehenge (This is Hawkwind, Do
>Not Panic)_ on CD (my Flicknife vinyl currently resides in the UK), and
>I was wondering if anyone knew from which gig(s) the songs were taken?
They are taken from:
- London, Lewisham Odeon, 18.12.1980
- Stonehenge, 20.06.1984
- Stonehenge, 21.06.1984
Bernhard
From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Feb 25 13:19:12 2000
From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:19:12 EST
Subject: HW: Andy G enters the Hawkwind fold
Message-ID: <FRI.25.FEB.2000.131912.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Welcome to the list, Andy G. And just in case I didn't get to thank you
personally:
The Spacehead CD is _awesome_. I love Dibs' voice: sounds like a cross betw.
Brock and Harvey Bainbridge (I'm on-topic!). Krel is great, reminds me more
of '80s HW (but more purely Space-Rock). Chuck
From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Fri Feb 25 14:52:58 2000
From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:52:58 -0500
Subject: OFF: UK music magazines
Message-ID: <FRI.25.FEB.2000.145258.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hello,
I was wondering if someone could send me a list of professional music
magazines published in the UK - preferrably rock, of course, but I'd also be
interested in those that cover pop or that have a more generic approach (all
genres).
I only need a list of names, BTW.
Thanks !
Alex.
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From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Feb 25 16:53:52 2000
From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:53:52 -0800
Subject: HW: Gig sources for Stonehenge (This is Hawkwind,
Do Not Panic)?
Message-ID: <FRI.25.FEB.2000.135352.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of this ...
On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:46:53 +0100, Bernhard Pospiech
<bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE> wrote:
>At 15:23 24.2.2000 -0500, Paul Mather <paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU> wrote:
>>I just got a copy---at long last---of _Stonehenge (This is Hawkwind, Do
>>Not Panic)_ on CD (my Flicknife vinyl currently resides in the UK), and
>>I was wondering if anyone knew from which gig(s) the songs were taken?
>
>They are taken from:
>
>- London, Lewisham Odeon, 18.12.1980
>- Stonehenge, 20.06.1984
>- Stonehenge, 21.06.1984
Paul Mather <paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU> also wrote:
>>Also, who is playing on which tracks (is Ginger drumming on
>>everything up to the 12" tracks?)?
Yes, that's Ginger on record 1:
London Lewisham Odeon 18.12.80 Thu BR/BA/LL/HA/BK
Easy to tell by Keith Hale's mediocre keyboard playing, since mr. Baker was
Hawkwind's only drummer during Keith's tenure in the band.
>>I'd forgotten just how much I like this album!
The two tracks from '84 are some of my favorite live Hawkwind ever (well,
at least since 'Space Ritual'), with vastly superior (to Keith Hale)
keyboard/synth playing by Harvey. Nice versions of "Angels of Death" &
"Death Trap" (w/Harvey vocals!) from the '80 show, too. I have a lineup
question, though ...
Stonehenge Festival 20.06.84 Wed BR/DA/BA/LL/TH/TU
Stonehenge Festival 21.06.84 Thu BR/DA/BA/TH/TU
... that's Dave, Harvey, Nik, Alan and Danny both nights, but Huw only on
the first. (sorry, I should look this up on the list FoFP & company
compiled a while back, but ...) Huw's definitely on "Stonehenge Decoded"
(very recognizably his style, and it sounds like there are multiple synths
going, so Dave must be doing that and not guitar), so is "Watching the
Grass Grow" from the 21st, with only Dave on guitar? Thanks,
-Doug
ceres at sirius.com
From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Feb 25 19:23:15 2000
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 00:23:15 +0000
Subject: HW: Re: Hawkwind 2000
In-Reply-To: <000801bf7e5f$3baf4b80$36730918@cx904100-a.chnd1.az.home.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.26.FEB.2000.002315.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Kevin Sommers wrote:
> Please, please, please keep Harvey.
>
> Pretty please?
Good lords yes. Look, we have live analogue swoosh! The band can
_jam_! To go back to `dead' programmed sets would be awful now. Especially
since the relationship between Harvey and Dave is clearly so good. My
2pworth, anyhow. Yours,
Jon
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From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sat Feb 26 02:35:24 2000
From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 08:35:24 +0100
Subject: HW: Gig sources for Stonehenge (This is Hawkwind,
Do Not Panic)?
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000225135352.00957620@pop.sirius.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.26.FEB.2000.083524.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi
At 13:53 25.2.2000 -0800, you wrote:
>Nice versions of "Angels of Death" & "Death Trap" (w/Harvey vocals!) from
the >'80 show, too. I have a lineup question, though ...
>Stonehenge Festival 20.06.84 Wed BR/DA/BA/LL/TH/TU
>Stonehenge Festival 21.06.84 Thu BR/DA/BA/TH/TU
>... that's Dave, Harvey, Nik, Alan and Danny both nights, but Huw only on
>the first. (sorry, I should look this up on the list FoFP & company
>compiled a while back, but ...) Huw's definitely on "Stonehenge Decoded"
>(very recognizably his style, and it sounds like there are multiple synths
>going, so Dave must be doing that and not guitar), so is "Watching the
>Grass Grow" from the 21st, with only Dave on guitar? Thanks,
All 1984 tracks are from 20.06.1984, except STONEHENGE DECODED.
This one is from 21.06.1984.
I am sure that Brian Tawn mentioned in one of his HAKFANS that Huw didn't
make it on the 2nd day. maybe the band liftetd this track up in the studio
with guitar sound....
WATCHING THE GRASS GROW is from 20.06.1984
Bernhard
From Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG Sat Feb 26 04:31:54 2000
From: Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG (Olivier Boigey)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 11:31:54 +0200
Subject: HW: Studio 22 & The Metro -part2
Message-ID: <SAT.26.FEB.2000.113154.0200.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Received another testimony from Oz shows !
Olivier
hi Olivier,
sorry, I hit send by mistake :-} not enough sleep?
Well the afterrnoon and evening lived up to expectations :-)
Got to the TV studio in heaps of time, meet up with a few HW people I'd
talked to via email, Paul (Sonic Bilby) and Marty were who I hung out with.
We were ushered into 'Studio 22' about 3:30 and it was a really relaxed,
intimate session. I sat on the floor at the feet of Jerry and HW were very
informal and played a blistering version of 'Hassan I Sabha', a great
'Utopia', 'Love in Space', 'Free fall' a finale of 'Brainstorm' complete
with a midpiece injection of the 'stole my stash' part of 'Refer madness'
and a roaring ending. As a closing tune for the credits, the compare ask if
Dave minded doing 'Silver machine'. He joked that he couldn't remember the
words apart from 'I've got a silver machine'. He then produced an exercise
book with lyrics jotted in them, much to the delight of the audience and
Harvey was having great fun. Never realised he was such a character. The
audience chanted the chorus and a great time was had.......... definitely!
Kris did her fire-ball parts during each track, certainly a suprise in an
enclosed TV studio (no wonder we were told where the fire exit was :-), I
certainly felt the heat each time she blew flames, wow. All in all an
experience I can't honestly describe well enough to show how much it meant
to me as a HW fan to finally see them.......... and so close too.
After a visit to Utopia Records, only to be told the band had already been
in as they had to reshedule their CD signing to earlier in the week (the
joys of no full-on publicity for the tour), we had a few ales at an Irish
pub and made our way to the Metro.
The took to the stage shortly after 9, Dave Brock seemed a bit pissed off
about some problem with his sequencer but this was eventually sorted out as
the band played on. There were probably 800 people there, and what an
assortment.
The show was extremely amazing and though it took them until midway though
'Coded languages' to truly get it together, from that moment on it was like
a cosmic rollercoaster trip complete with Madame FireBreather, the
fire-breathing maiden, injecting her presence. The light/slide show was
brilliant too and was projected onto a large white screen or sheet behind
the group............ very effective for sure.
The 2-hour set consisted of the following but maybe in the wrong order:
Right Stuff
Coded Languages
Motorway City
Assault and Battery
Golden Void
Utopia
Forge of Vulcan
Hassan I Sahba
Assasins of Allah
Spirit of the Age
Freefall
Brainstorm
Sonic Attack
Ejection (encore)
Welcome to the future (encore)
All in all an experience which is equal with the afternoon show, but for
different reasons I suppose. The sheer power, presence and sonic atmosphere
of both sight and sound has nmade the 24 year wait worth it. Roll on 2024
:-)
No T-shirt available at the gig though, sold out due to not enough stock,
though I have been promised one by Neil, the promoter, who left the
additional stocks at home in all the rush yesterday.
Got home at 3 am and am gonna head back to get some sleep. Got a tour poster
and am framing it tomorrow.
cheers and all the best,
Anthony
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From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Feb 26 05:44:16 2000
From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 10:44:16 +0000
Subject: HW: Studio 22 & The Metro -part2
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In message <579723197.39519824 at technolink.org>, Olivier Boigey
<Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG> writes
>Got a tour poster
>and am framing it tomorrow.
I got a gig poster yesterday, too.
Mine was from the Lyceum with Inner City Unit, Androids of Mu etc.
that were 20 year ago, mind.
--
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From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sat Feb 26 15:58:41 2000
From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 15:58:41 -0500
Subject: BOC: Partial set list from 2/25/00 somewhere in LA.
Message-ID: <SAT.26.FEB.2000.155841.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
A dear old friend who is not on the list saw BOC last night. He admits to
being stoned out of his mind when he wrote this but he obviously had a good
time. I dont even know where it was in the LA area but here is the set list
from last night. If I get more info I will send it along.
Stairways To the Stars
Before the Kiss, a Redcap
E.T.I.!!!
Harvest Moon
Take Me away (?)
<ME 262
Career of Evil
?????
Unknowing Tongue (?)
Cities on Flame
I'm Burning for You
Harvester of Eyes
See You Black (?)
Last Days of May
?????
Summer Of Love
Godzilla with a long Bass and AWESOME drum solo
Reaper
Workshops of Telescopes
Dominance & Submission
From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Feb 26 19:16:57 2000
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 00:16:57 +0000
Subject: OFF: Farflung (was: Re: Inner City Unit Cassettes)
In-Reply-To: <38B29C22.5128598D@sunderland.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <SUN.27.FEB.2000.001657.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, john cartledge wrote:
> There's also an excellent track by Farflung (Landing on Cydonia), which
> has got me interested in getting some more of their stuff.
> As such, can anyone recommend an album that would be a good initial
> purchase, or are they all equally worth buying?
`Landing on Cydonia' is off _25,000 Feet Per Second_, on
Flipside, which is quite excellent high-energy riff-packed spacerock. It
could be said however that if you've got that track you've got the best
thing on there, the other good bits being shorter. There are three
following albums, of which two are on Flipside also, one, _So Many Minds,
So Little Time_ being a hodge-podge of now unavailable singles, B-sides,
out-takes and so forth; the other, _The Raven That Ate The Moon_ is
extremely ambitious long improvised pieces in the vein of `Cydonia' but
less coherent and is only for the brave.
So, on the whole, I'd say get the fourth album, _The Belief
Module_ which is absolutely brilliant and for me sets the current
frontiers of space-rock. It's on Bad Acid and is completely essential. I
think there's another one on the way out but I know nothing about it
yet. Hope this helps, yours,
Jon
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From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Sat Feb 26 22:21:44 2000
From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 22:21:44 -0500
Subject: Partial set list from 2/25/00 somewhere in LA. - Updated
In-Reply-To: <LPBBIAHJMGGOOBNCKIMEKEJACCAA.mhabiby1@nycap.rr.com>
Message-ID: <SAT.26.FEB.2000.222144.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Here is the better updated set list from the show last night.
------------------------------------
My freind wrote:
Stairway to the Stars
Before the kiss, a Redcap
ETI
Harvest Moon
Take Me Away
ME 262
Career of Evil
Teen Archer
Unknowing Tongue
Cities on Flame
I'm Burning for You
Harvester of Eyes
See you in Black
Last Days of May
Pocket
This ain't the Summer of Love
Godzilla with awesome Bass and Drum solo
Reaper
Subhuman
******
Dominance & Submission
I certainly can not complain about this set list. I only miss Hot Rails To
Hell.
Eric's voice was perfect. Sounded exactly like it did 25 years ago. Buck
is the most under-rated guitarist. He looks a lot like Paul Simon now. I
have to admit it is a little strange seeing this middle-aged short stocky
guy with short clean-cut hair playing heavy metal! Who the heck is that
drummer? He was most impressive!
---------------------
This last question does not need a responce from the list as I filled him
in.
Mike
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Behalf Of Michael Habiby
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2000 3:59 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
Subject: BOC: Partial set list from 2/25/00 somewhere in LA.
A dear old friend who is not on the list saw BOC last night. He admits to
being stoned out of his mind when he wrote this but he obviously had a good
time. I dont even know where it was in the LA area but here is the set list
from last night. If I get more info I will send it along.
Stairways To the Stars
Before the Kiss, a Redcap
E.T.I.!!!
Harvest Moon
Take Me away (?)
<ME 262
Career of Evil
?????
Unknowing Tongue (?)
Cities on Flame
I'm Burning for You
Harvester of Eyes
See You Black (?)
Last Days of May
?????
Summer Of Love
Godzilla with a long Bass and AWESOME drum solo
Reaper
Workshops of Telescopes
Dominance & Submission
From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Sun Feb 27 06:03:11 2000
From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:03:11 +1100
Subject: HW: Hawk TV
Message-ID: <SUN.27.FEB.2000.220311.1100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 23 Feb 00, at 19:00, Miikka Wagner wrote:
> >Hi people,
> >
> >The Studio 22 Hawkwind recording which is being done on Thursday afternoon at
> >the ABC studios in Sydney will be made available for purchase from ABC
> >Program sales after the show has gone to air on March 30th!
> >
> >Just thought you would all like to know :-)
>
> is there web address?
I'mnot sure if they have on-line ordering, but you can look around
www.abc.net.au to find out ....
S.
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From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Sun Feb 27 06:16:01 2000
From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:16:01 +1100
Subject: Hawkwind on Studio 22
Message-ID: <SUN.27.FEB.2000.221601.1100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On 24 Feb 00, at 23:20, William Duffy wrote:
> Doesn't look like they are on tonight after all. It's nearly finished and all
> they have had is Dr John. When is it being screened???
30th of March!
Paul
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From colum26 at YAHOO.COM Sun Feb 27 09:30:36 2000
From: colum26 at YAHOO.COM (=?iso-8859-1?q?colm=20mcwilliams?=)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 06:30:36 -0800
Subject: hawkwind remix project
Message-ID: <SUN.27.FEB.2000.063036.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I've been reading about the hawkwind remix project hey
are you guys talking about the solstice reconstruction
cd?
Or something entirely different?
Where can you get it? any info?
colm
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From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Feb 27 10:30:25 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:30:25 -0000
Subject: HW: hawkwind remix project
In-Reply-To: <20000227143036.19152.rocketmail@web222.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.27.FEB.2000.153025.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
There was some bootleg project that got stepped on by EMI - maybe it's
rearing its head again?
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On
> Behalf Of colm mcwilliams
> Sent: 27 February 2000 14:31
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: hawkwind remix project
>
>
> I've been reading about the hawkwind remix project hey
> are you guys talking about the solstice reconstruction
> cd?
> Or something entirely different?
> Where can you get it? any info?
>
>
>
> colm
>
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From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Feb 27 16:08:25 2000
From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:08:25 -0000
Subject: HW: Gig sources for Stonehenge (This is Hawkwind,
Do Not Panic)?
Message-ID: <SUN.27.FEB.2000.210825.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Stonehenge 84 eh!
That would be the evening gig of 20.6 and the sunrise of 21.6. If I remember
correctly Huw thought somebody had knicked his e-bow and due to resulting
"bad karma" decided to hang around. The Snorkwind gigs were great too - in a
large marquee with acrobats and trapeze artist overhead. I have in the past
posted about Henge 84...everyone was in fine form. Dozens of bands all over
the site doing HW covers, usually badly. Two bands stick out in the old
memory: Karma Kanix and Earthbound (Earth Band), the latter had a chinese
singer/guitar player, awesome, he had those Steve Hillage chops to a tee!
Was anyone else there?
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Bernhard Pospiech <bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE>
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L <BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Date: 26 February 2000 07:36
Subject: Re: HW: Gig sources for Stonehenge (This is Hawkwind, Do Not
Panic)?
>Hi
>
>At 13:53 25.2.2000 -0800, you wrote:
>>Nice versions of "Angels of Death" & "Death Trap" (w/Harvey vocals!) from
>the >'80 show, too. I have a lineup question, though ...
>
>>Stonehenge Festival 20.06.84 Wed BR/DA/BA/LL/TH/TU
>>Stonehenge Festival 21.06.84 Thu BR/DA/BA/TH/TU
>
>>... that's Dave, Harvey, Nik, Alan and Danny both nights, but Huw only on
>>the first. (sorry, I should look this up on the list FoFP & company
>>compiled a while back, but ...) Huw's definitely on "Stonehenge Decoded"
>>(very recognizably his style, and it sounds like there are multiple synths
>>going, so Dave must be doing that and not guitar), so is "Watching the
>>Grass Grow" from the 21st, with only Dave on guitar? Thanks,
>
>All 1984 tracks are from 20.06.1984, except STONEHENGE DECODED.
>This one is from 21.06.1984.
>
>I am sure that Brian Tawn mentioned in one of his HAKFANS that Huw didn't
>make it on the 2nd day. maybe the band liftetd this track up in the studio
>with guitar sound....
>
>WATCHING THE GRASS GROW is from 20.06.1984
>
>
>
>Bernhard
>
From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Feb 28 01:46:46 2000
From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 22:46:46 -0800
Subject: Re-Hawkwind- Farflung-Belief Module
Message-ID: <SUN.27.FEB.2000.224646.0800.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi Y'all,
On Sun, 27 Feb 2000, jon jarrett wrote:
So, on the whole, I'd say get the fourth album, _The Belief
Module_ which is absolutely brilliant and for me sets the current
frontiers of space-rock. It's on Bad Acid and is completely essential. I
think there's another one on the way out but I know nothing about it
yet. Hope this helps, yours,
Jon
----
It's a great album for sure, but the Bad Acid label and magazine
suddenly disapppeared off the face of the planet a month or two ago, the
Farflung album is out of stock at the distributors, Plastic Head, and my
advice is, of you see any place with a copy in stock, grab it as there's
little likelihood right now of a repress. Impending rarity warning No
1!!!
Oh, and to an earlier caller, I heard from Pseudo Sun that they are
doing 3 concerts with Nik Turner in Sweden in early March so that's
where Nik's going to be.
Speaking of Scandinavia, the Dark Sun live album of Hawkwind cover
versions is slightly delayed but should be out real soon - as ever, CD
Services Mail Order will have it as soon as it's around.
Andy G. (Dead Earnest)
www.andygee.dial.pipex.com/cds.htm
From drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Feb 27 18:50:23 2000
From: drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM (Torgo Sedler)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:50:23 PST
Subject: BOC: That cover thang..... revisited
Message-ID: <SUN.27.FEB.2000.155023.PST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi folks.....
Getting back to the subject of what tunes would sound good with BOC covering
them.........
I had an odd one pop into my head today, but I think it really works.
What I would like to hear is either the BUCK-heavy side of BOC, or maybe
even Buck in solo album mode- do a cover of Gordon Lightfoot's "The Wreck of
the Edmund Fitzgerald". (sp?)
I can almost hear it quite heavier than the original, but just as haunting,
with those awesome Buck leads throughout the song. Kind of a "story" song
somewhere between "Harvest Moon" and "Last days of may", with a little bit
of "Golden age of Leather" thrown in.
Crazy I know, but think about it.
Back to me lurkin'...........
Torgo has left the building.......
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From AgentOF at AOL.COM Sun Feb 27 18:55:36 2000
From: AgentOF at AOL.COM (Chuck Saden)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 18:55:36 EST
Subject: BOC: That cover thang..... revisited
Message-ID: <SUN.27.FEB.2000.185536.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/27/2000 5:51:49 PM Central Standard Time,
drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM writes:
<< "The Wreck of
the Edmund Fitzgerald". (sp?)
>>
There was hot talk on this very subject and song on Buck's board recently.
Buck didn't comment on it, so we didn't know if it'll ever happen....
For a while we've been bugging him to play Teen Archer and it's just shown
up, so who knows?
The conversation had a "this started at an aftershow party with BOC" feel to
it :-)
chuck
From MLawrenc at VITGDTS1.TELSTRA.COM.AU Sun Feb 27 18:26:00 2000
From: MLawrenc at VITGDTS1.TELSTRA.COM.AU (Lawrence, Marty [IBM GSA])
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:26:00 +1100
Subject: HW: Studio 22 & The Metro
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.102600.1100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Well,what can I add except a fine time was had by all.
Studio 22
It was like Hawkwind in your living room,after the intro's from the
presenter the band was introduced to huge applause,and
dave & harvey seemed quite taken aback.
Seeing the band in a circle was a bit strange ,but I guess they are used to
it with rehearsals,with them as follows :-
Harvey Richard Dave
Jerry Simon Steve
The set list was as Paul/Anthony have said ,but there was abit from
Interstellar Chaos before Freefall.
Harvey and Dave had a few laughs together and it was funny to see dave get
the lyric book out for
Love in Space and Silver Machine.There were a couple of problems and Dave
mentioned there had been a few
mistakes.Richard then stood up and admitted he had the wrong speed for the
drum pattern or whatever.
They played really well,and sitting on the floor next to jerry,watching him
play he is a fine guitarist and a
fantastic addition to the band.
Couldn't quite hear what simon was playing,and harvey was using lots of dats
with each song.
Steve seemed to be enjoying himself,but was very focused.
Dave disappeared for freefall and then came back for the shortened version
of Brainstorm.
I will be interesting to see if the aired version and the for sale version
of the shows will be different.
The Metro
To see Hawkwind play to a decent crowd is a joy to see,and lets hope that
they will return next year,the promoter indicated that
they intend to come back next year and definitely play Melbourne.
They came on to pleny of applause and went straight into Right Stuff,Coded
was next but there were a few problems,one being
steve had left the stage and his bass was feeding back.Harvey was obviously
having problems and when dave asked
replied my Midi is playing up.Motorway city was next but with repeated
verses so a bit longer I guess.
A&B/Golden Void was next this ended and then they went into the new"techno
ending"
Memory of the set abit amiss,but Forge of vulcan was there,and Assasins was
fantastic,for the first time ,someone realised
that the violin needs to be turned up for this song,after a lengthy bit of
playing by simon they went into the track,sung by HARVEY
this led into Space etc.They announced "we going to utopia,but this broke
into the highlight of the show for me Spirit of the Age,
dave's vocals really worked , very different to Live 79.Utopia was then
played,with a bit of levitation in there.
Freefall was next with a bit from "interstellar chaos" before the track,and
Jerry sung/chanted something over this,
Brainstorm was as hectic as ever with Sonic attack in between,then it was
goodnight.
They came back on stage and went straight into ejection,which followed into
gremlin and then welcome,and that was it.
I think most of the audience was stunned,they had actually seen Hawkwind
play in Australia
Having seen the band for the first time in 8 years,it was a wondefull
experience,and I envy you all in the UK,that can see them
3 or 4 times in a tour.
Marty
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 28 05:27:30 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:27:30 GMT
Subject: HW: Gig sources for Stonehenge (This is Hawkwind,
Do Not Panic)?
In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:23:17 -0500
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.102730.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Paul Mather writes:
> I just got a copy---at long last---of _Stonehenge (This is Hawkwind, Do
> Not Panic)_ on CD (my Flicknife vinyl currently resides in the UK), and
> I was wondering if anyone knew from which gig(s) the songs were taken?
> According to the liner notes, the material was recorded in 1980 and 1984
> (the latter being the tracks from the 12", I suspect). Also, who is
> playing on which tracks (is Ginger drumming on everything up to the 12"
> tracks?)?
Stonehenge (This Is Hawkwind/Do Not Panic) (Flicknife 1984 LP & EP)
----------
TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE
Psy Power 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon
Levitation 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon
Circles 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon
Space Chase 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon
Death Trap 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon
Angels Of Death 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon
Shot Down In The Night 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon
Stonehenge Decoded 21.06.84 Stonehenge Festival
Watching The Grass Grow 21.06.84 Stonehenge Festival
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Feb 25 10:54:25 2000
From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:54:25 -0500
Subject: off:Dark Sun
In-Reply-To: <200002241732.TAA17523@vihta.saunalahti.fi>
Message-ID: <FRI.25.FEB.2000.105425.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
At 19.32 +0200 00-02-24, Miikka Wagner wrote:
>Finnish space rockers Dark Sun have their own web site at:
>http://hop.to/darksun/
>They are also selling DS shirts, check it out! New live album called Ice
>Ritual feat. Nik Turner out soon.
Hurrah! Dark Sun are cool. Must get shirt and Ice Ritual :)
I hope they manage to get an album of original material released as
well. I remember the unreleased stuff played at Jonk?ping lo! these
many years ago now as being excellent.
Cheers,
Carl
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From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Feb 28 07:03:01 2000
From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:03:01 -0000
Subject: OFF: Q, MOJO, TGM, 2000AD+
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.120301.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Don't know if anyone's interested, but I've got the last couple of years of
Q, Mojo and The Guitar Magazine up for grabs - free. If anyone wants them
(the whole lot - I'm not sending out individual copies), email me at
rich at beerpowerednoisefrenzy.co.uk by the end of play tomorrow, otherwise
they get binned. You'll have to pick them up yourself from East London
too...
I've also got 2000ADs - progs 270(ish) through to about 520, - none missing,
plus a load of the original Eagle and Quality reprints of Judge Dredd (All
except issue 1), 2000AD, Rogue Trooper, Strontium Dog, Slaine etc to shift.
No reasonable offer refused.
Sorry for the off topic post.
Cheers,
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From denis at D-RIDER.DE Mon Feb 28 07:49:15 2000
From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:49:15 +0100
Subject: [OT] Gong & Tim Blake
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.134915.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hello all,
exactly in time with the release of their new album "Zero To Infinity" the
official Gong/GAS website was redesigned. The new URL is
http://www.planetgong.co.uk/index.html
Also good news for all Tim Blake fans. All of his albums will be remastered
and released this year on the the Voiceprint label. His new record "Tide Of
the Century" will be released this Spring. I hope it'll be as good as "New
Jerusalem" and "Crystal Machine".
cu
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From flossbac at NLCI.COM Mon Feb 28 10:01:20 2000
From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:01:20 -0500
Subject: HW: seeking video Chicago 10-1-89
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.100120.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi everyone,
I'm trying to locate a good copy (i.e. close to the master) of a video of
the Hawkwind performance at Lounge Ax, Chicago IL on October 1, 1989. Let
me know if you can help....
John Majka
flossbac at nlci.com
http://www.nlci.com/users/flossbac/hawkwind.html
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Feb 28 10:10:36 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:10:36 -0500
Subject: HW: Who's looking for QS&C?
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.101036.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Posted on rec.music.marketplace.cd...
HAWKWIND - Quark, Strangeness & Charm. This is the first post-Lemmy
album from 1976 and sees them trying an early form of New Wave in
certain areas. NEW $9.99
_______________________________________________________
((NEW PRIORITY Postal rates for the US (1st class): 1-2 CDs - $2.50
- 3-6 CDs - $3.20))
CANADA- 1-2 CD- $3.10 US; 3-4 CD $4 US; 5-7 CD $5 US FUNDS ONLY.
Frank D - mrduul at ix.netcom.com
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not quite accurate, but what the hey? He's got lots of other stuff,
including krautrock and shoegazer stuff.
Keith H. (FAA)
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Feb 28 10:25:54 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:25:54 -0000
Subject: NIK: Mexico, LA, Sweden
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.152554.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Nik is doing a bit of globetrotting in the next few days!
3 March - Baja festival, Mexicali, Mexico, with Five-Fifteen
5 March - Spaceland, Los Angeles, USA, with the Space Ritual band
9, 11, 12 March - Swedish dates with Pseudo Sun
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Feb 28 10:51:24 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:51:24 -0000
Subject: NIK: Can you help?
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.155124.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Nik had a CD player (an Aiwa) and some CDs that went missing somewhere
between St Austell and Croydon at the end of last year's Hawkwind tour -
it's a long shot, but if anyone can help, let me know! Of more value than
the player, really, are the CDs, which include an All-Stars demo and some
hard-to-replace Latin jazz.
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Feb 28 11:06:51 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:06:51 GMT
Subject: [OT] Gong & Tim Blake
In-Reply-To: Denis Regenbrecht's message of Mon, 28 Feb 2000 13:49:15 +0100
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.160651.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Denis Regenbrecht writes:
> Hello all,
>
> exactly in time with the release of their new album "Zero To Infinity" the
> official Gong/GAS website was redesigned. The new URL is
> http://www.planetgong.co.uk/index.html
>
> Also good news for all Tim Blake fans. All of his albums will be remastered
> and released this year on the the Voiceprint label. His new record "Tide Of
> the Century" will be released this Spring. I hope it'll be as good as "New
> Jerusalem" and "Crystal Machine".
Could be good for us Blake fans. Crystal Island is sposed to be coming
out Real Soon Now (tm) too.
Does anyone know if there's a Blake track on the forthcoming 25th
Birthday CD?
Also: what's Global's relationship to Gong/GAS?
FoFP
From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Feb 28 11:55:09 2000
From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:55:09 +0000
Subject: NIK: Mexico, LA, Sweden
In-Reply-To: <LPBBLNNCENLINIMONNCJCEDFCDAA.Andy.Gilham@btinternet.com>
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.165509.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Andy Gilham wrote:
> Nik is doing a bit of globetrotting in the next few days!
>
> 3 March - Baja festival, Mexicali, Mexico, with Five-Fifteen
> 5 March - Spaceland, Los Angeles, USA, with the Space Ritual band
> 9, 11, 12 March - Swedish dates with Pseudo Sun
Cor, he doesn't half move... Here, while you've got our EMI hat
on, Andy, can you tell me any of this? (a) who's going to be in this NTSR
lineup? (b) has _Kubano Kickasso_ come out yet? and (c) if Voiceprint
couldn't release _Greasy Trucker's Party_ because EMI objected, are EMI
planning to do anything with it? Yours,
Jon
--
/----------------------------------------------------------\
| Jonathan Jarrett 11 Manhattan Drive, |
| jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge |
| 01223 741219 CB4 1JL |
|----------------------------------------------------------|
| "Wilhelm Reich died for your sins" (ST37) |
\----------------------------------------------------------/
From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Mon Feb 28 12:05:45 2000
From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:05:45 -0000
Subject: Germany
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.170545.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Greetings peeps,
Two things,
1. Are my mails getting through ?
2. Dr Hasbeen are in the process of arranging a tour(ish) of Germany and
any information regarding venues, people to contact regarding gigs etc would
be very welcome. We are looking for dates around the end of May / early
June,
hopefully including the Hawfan gathering - subject to arrangements.
Please reply to my personal email.
Mark (The Master of Disaster)
mark.p.lee at genie.co.uk
mark.lee at dial.pipex.com
mark at esparto.org
mark.p.lee at sms.genie.co.uk
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ END MESSAGE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Feb 28 12:09:10 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:09:10 -0000
Subject: NIK: Mexico, LA, Sweden
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0002281652440.4724-100000@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.170910.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
(a) Dunno, and I just checked Five Fifteen's website and they reckon it's
them!
(b) No, and I forgot to ask!
(c) The HW cuts from the Greasy Truckers album are already on the remastered
Space Ritual. No idea if there's any more tracks (well there's Silver
Machine, of course)
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On
> Behalf Of Jon Jarrett
> Sent: 28 February 2000 16:55
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: Re: NIK: Mexico, LA, Sweden
>
>
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Andy Gilham wrote:
>
> > Nik is doing a bit of globetrotting in the next few days!
> >
> > 3 March - Baja festival, Mexicali, Mexico, with Five-Fifteen
> > 5 March - Spaceland, Los Angeles, USA, with the Space Ritual band
> > 9, 11, 12 March - Swedish dates with Pseudo Sun
>
> Cor, he doesn't half move... Here, while you've got our EMI hat
> on, Andy, can you tell me any of this? (a) who's going to be in this NTSR
> lineup? (b) has _Kubano Kickasso_ come out yet? and (c) if Voiceprint
> couldn't release _Greasy Trucker's Party_ because EMI objected, are EMI
> planning to do anything with it? Yours,
> Jon
> --
> /----------------------------------------------------------\
> | Jonathan Jarrett 11 Manhattan Drive, |
> | jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge |
> | 01223 741219 CB4 1JL |
> |----------------------------------------------------------|
> | "Wilhelm Reich died for your sins" (ST37) |
> \----------------------------------------------------------/
>
From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Mon Feb 28 12:27:41 2000
From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS])
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:27:41 -0500
Subject: NIK: Mexico, LA, Sweden
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.122741.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
The show at Spaceland in Los Angeles is listed as Five-Fifteen w/Nik Turner.
Of course, this may not be correct. The local papers listed a Farflung show
as HW!
D. Ductor
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Gilham [SMTP:Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM]
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 9:09 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
Subject: Re: NIK: Mexico, LA, Sweden
(a) Dunno, and I just checked Five Fifteen's website and they reckon
it's
them!
(b) No, and I forgot to ask!
(c) The HW cuts from the Greasy Truckers album are already on the
remastered
Space Ritual. No idea if there's any more tracks (well there's
Silver
Machine, of course)
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com;
http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List
[mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On
> Behalf Of Jon Jarrett
> Sent: 28 February 2000 16:55
> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
> Subject: Re: NIK: Mexico, LA, Sweden
>
>
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2000, Andy Gilham wrote:
>
> > Nik is doing a bit of globetrotting in the next few days!
> >
> > 3 March - Baja festival, Mexicali, Mexico, with Five-Fifteen
> > 5 March - Spaceland, Los Angeles, USA, with the Space Ritual
band
> > 9, 11, 12 March - Swedish dates with Pseudo Sun
>
> Cor, he doesn't half move... Here, while you've got our
EMI hat
> on, Andy, can you tell me any of this? (a) who's going to be in
this NTSR
> lineup? (b) has _Kubano Kickasso_ come out yet? and (c) if
Voiceprint
> couldn't release _Greasy Trucker's Party_ because EMI objected,
are EMI
> planning to do anything with it? Yours,
> Jon
> --
>
/----------------------------------------------------------\
> | Jonathan Jarrett 11 Manhattan Drive,
|
> | jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge
|
> | 01223 741219 CB4 1JL
|
>
|----------------------------------------------------------|
> | "Wilhelm Reich died for your sins" (ST37)
|
>
\----------------------------------------------------------/
>
From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Mon Feb 28 12:30:57 2000
From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (DIGEST Stuart A Hamilton)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 17:30:57 -0000
Subject: OFF: Shamefaced self promotion
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.173057.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Another year, another Zeitgeist:-) The first issue of 2000 is out now
with reviews of
HAWKWIND
Live At Glastonbury 1990
Complete '79: Collector Series Vol 1
Choose Your Masques: Collector Series Vol 2
VARIOUS - Power Files Chapter 5
MOONBABIES - Air>>>Moon>>>Stereo EP
KEVIN BOWE and the OKEMAH PROPHETS - Restoration
POINTY BIRDS - 3 Song EP
IOD - Mundane Existence
BILL FOREMAN - Mind Monkey
MY VITRIOL - Always Your Way / Piece
MOLOCH - Singular Economics And The Credence Of Fidelity And Geometry
DAVID E WILLIAMS
I Have Forgotten How To Love You
A House For The Dead And A Porch For The Dying
VARIOUS - Stone Premonitions Sampler
MATRIX 22 - One / Nosedive Karma
VARIOUS - Serial Thriller Vol V
GRAND FACADE - 2 track promo
STREET LEGAL - Thunderdome
NOTHING - Nondescript
Details are available on the web site for obtaining a copy, or drop
me an e-mail for details.
Stuart
Blessings and peace from Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground
E-zine, freezine and online Record Store http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com
PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK
"The way I keep in touch with the world is very gingerly, because the world touches too hard" Don Van Vliet
alternate url: http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot
From clemens at TRAIL.COM Mon Feb 28 14:43:36 2000
From: clemens at TRAIL.COM (Clemens & Associates)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:43:36 -0700
Subject: new hawkwind official bootleg
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.124336.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I see on CDNOW that they are taking advance orders for Official Bootleg 2: Choose Your (Masques?) on the Resurgence (UK) label. Does anyone know what this is and is it a reissue of anything? It's a double cd.
The other Mark
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From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Feb 28 15:36:05 2000
From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:36:05 EST
Subject: NIK: Mexico, LA, Sweden
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.153605.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In a message dated 2/28/00 9:29:39 AM Pacific Standard Time,
DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM writes:
> The show at Spaceland in Los Angeles is listed as Five-Fifteen w/Nik Turner.
>
> Of course, this may not be correct. The local papers listed a Farflung show
> as HW!
>
> D. Ductor
Wow, Nik's in LA! Who's 5:15?? Could it actually be his SR Revival crew???
Please inform. Anyway, whatever it is, let's all of us SoCal BOC-Lers (all 2
or 3 of us) plan something... Chuck
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Feb 28 16:14:13 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:14:13 -0000
Subject: NIK: Mexico, LA, Sweden
In-Reply-To: <4b.182f26a.25ec3635@aol.com>
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.211413.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Five Fifteen are the Finnish psych outfit Nik did some gigs with recently in
Helsinki - they rocked big time! When I saw them, they did one of the best
versions of Hassan I Sahba I've heard. They're presumably all flying up
from Baja together for the gig, and at least some of the SR crew will
probably be there too.
Don't miss them! And if they're selling copies of their Silver Machine
single, buy one! :)
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
From blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US Mon Feb 28 16:43:10 2000
From: blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US (Brad M. Lauchnor)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 14:43:10 -0700
Subject: BOC: Bootlegs, trees and sharing the music
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.144310.0700.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hey BOC folks. Things have been pretty quiet around here lately so I was thinking that I'd offer to set up a BOC tree. What's that? Its an effort to trade some BOC live shows around. I know that there are some people out there that trade shows but I thought that as a list we could all benefit from having some of the shows that are of the best quality and performance. Here's the deal. I will set up and administer the tree and burn CDR's for the branches of the tree. All the branches would do is send me blanks and postage and be responsible for getting the show out to their leaves. We could run it in several formats depending on the interest (Mini-disc, CDR, analog tape, etc.) Now the problem. I have only 3 BOC shows and none of them are of known generation. If someone has a good show that is a dat/CDR copy of a master tape (audience or board) and would like to offer to trade with me I'll do the rest. Is there anyone out there that would be interested in providing the "seed" for this tree?
Want to know more about how it works? Try this link http://home.earthlink.net/~laburnett/tree/
I've taken part in trees on other mailing lists as an administrator, branch, and leaf. They work great and get the music out to the fans. I DO NOT want to set up a tree for commercially released material! No matter how hard it is to find.
I'm on digest mode right now so if you want to talk it over please email me directly.
Brad L.
From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Mon Feb 28 16:43:14 2000
From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS])
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:43:14 -0500
Subject: NIK: Mexico, LA, Sweden
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.164314.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I plan to be at Spaceland this Sunday. If anyone else
Is planning on going, let me know.
Dan Ductor.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chuck Rosenberg [SMTP:Chuckrecs at AOL.COM]
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 12:36 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
Subject: Re: NIK: Mexico, LA, Sweden
In a message dated 2/28/00 9:29:39 AM Pacific Standard Time,
DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM writes:
> The show at Spaceland in Los Angeles is listed as Five-Fifteen
w/Nik Turner.
>
> Of course, this may not be correct. The local papers listed a
Farflung show
> as HW!
>
> D. Ductor
Wow, Nik's in LA! Who's 5:15?? Could it actually be his SR Revival
crew???
Please inform. Anyway, whatever it is, let's all of us SoCal
BOC-Lers (all 2
or 3 of us) plan something... Chuck
From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Mon Feb 28 17:08:45 2000
From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:08:45 -0600
Subject: NIK: Mexico, LA, Sweden
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.160845.0600.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
> I plan to be at Spaceland this Sunday. If anyone else
> Is planning on going, let me know.
This really sounds like an awesome show, would anybody be available to
tape it? If so please contact me with a private email.
thanks
From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Feb 28 17:45:13 2000
From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 22:45:13 -0000
Subject: new hawkwind official bootleg
In-Reply-To: <003a01bf8225$01ffb7c0$0100a8c0@kristin>
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.224513.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Voiceprint, Resurgence, same thing. It'll be Collectors Series 2.
-- Andy
mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk
-----Original Message-----
From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On
Behalf Of Clemens & Associates
Sent: 28 February 2000 19:44
To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L
Subject: new hawkwind official bootleg
I see on CDNOW that they are taking advance orders for Official Bootleg 2:
Choose Your (Masques?) on the Resurgence (UK) label. Does anyone know what
this is and is it a reissue of anything? It's a double cd.
The other Mark
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From john at MALONE1.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Feb 28 13:26:02 2000
From: john at MALONE1.DEMON.CO.UK (John Malone)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:26:02 +0000
Subject: HW: Gig sources for Stonehenge (This is Hawkwind, Do Not Panic)?
In-Reply-To: <003401bf8166$ea2c91e0$65cd883e@default>
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.182602.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In article <003401bf8166$ea2c91e0$65cd883e at default>, david hall
<dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK> writes
>Stonehenge 84 eh!
<snip>
>Was anyone else there?
>
I think so :)
--
john at malone1.demon.co.uk
From john at MALONE1.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Feb 28 13:29:04 2000
From: john at MALONE1.DEMON.CO.UK (John Malone)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:29:04 +0000
Subject: OFF: Q, MOJO, TGM, 2000AD+
In-Reply-To: <024b01bf81e3$c36be290$3d01a8c0@tpd.co.uk>
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.182904.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
In article <024b01bf81e3$c36be290$3d01a8c0 at tpd.co.uk>, Richard Lockwood
<rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM> writes
>Don't know if anyone's interested, but I've got the last couple of years of
>Q, Mojo and The Guitar Magazine up for grabs - free. If anyone wants them
>(the whole lot - I'm not sending out individual copies), email me at
>rich at beerpowerednoisefrenzy.co.uk by the end of play tomorrow, otherwise
>they get binned. You'll have to pick them up yourself from East London
>too...
>
>I've also got 2000ADs - progs 270(ish) through to about 520, - none missing,
>plus a load of the original Eagle and Quality reprints of Judge Dredd (All
>except issue 1), 2000AD, Rogue Trooper, Strontium Dog, Slaine etc to shift.
>No reasonable offer refused.
>
>Sorry for the off topic post.
>
I reckon there will be a few Dredd fans hereabouts.
You'll find more at alt.comics.2000ad
--
john at malone1.demon.co.uk
From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Mon Feb 28 20:16:18 2000
From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:16:18 EST
Subject: OFF: Nikki Sudden Tour Dates
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.201618.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
just got a newsletter from chatterbox records.
Nikki Sudden (Swell Maps) will be touring the west coast.
I can only hope they add an east coast leg of this tour.
dates are:
3/1 Seattle, WA Graceland
3/2 Portland, OR Satirycon
3/3 San Francisco, CA Bottom Of The Hill
3/4 Sacramento, CA The Press Club
3/5 Live On KFJC Radio
3/5 San Jose The Cactus Club (or Fuel)
3/7 San Diego, CA The Casbah
3/9 Las Vegas, NV The Cooler
3/10 Costa Mesa, CA Club Mesa
3/11 Hollywood, CA The Garage
there are conflicting venues for the 3/5 show, this date as with all dates
should be checked for accuracy...
bob
Hawkwind: Time & Space Website
http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html
From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Feb 28 20:40:29 2000
From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 20:40:29 EST
Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 2/26/00
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.204029.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
"SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR.
For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing
list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck
WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS FOR WINAMP :
1) Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp
Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to
hear KUCR.
http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml
After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest
at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your
computer.
After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program
(Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp
can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up
on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also
on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the
lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then
click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just
clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the
following http://www.kucr.org:8000
Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp
and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up,
double click again to reconnect.
2/26/00
1.Alien Planetscapes--Radiation King (Life on Earth)
2.The Mike Gunn--Master of the Universe (Assassins of Silence/One-Hundred
Watt Violence <Hawkwind Tribute>)
3.Architectural Metaphor--Holographic Caves (Space Daze '97 comp)
4.Hawkwind--Angels of Death (Stonehenge/This is Hawkwind: Do Not Panic)
5.Darxtar--Darker (Darker)
6.Spaceship Eyes--Storm of Cleopatra (Kamarupa)
7.Ozric Tentacles--Eye of Adia/Fragmentary Aura (Bits Between the Bits)
8.Holger Czukay--Good Morning Story (Good Morning Story)
9.Stratum Terror--Static Systematic Cloning (Conception comp)
10.F/i--One Step Beyond (Helioscopium)
11.Spacious Mind--Valley Holy to Me (Sailing the Sea Goat)
12.Bent Leg Fatima--Crow, Cat and Snake (Bent Leg Fatima)
13.Nik Turner--10 Seconds of Forever/Ejection (Past or Future?)
14.Alan Davey--Ode to a Bass Assassin (Hawkfan 12, The Elf and the Hawk comp)
15.The Big Swifty--Kalpa (Akroasis)
16.Hawkwind--Stonehenge Decoded (Stonehenge/This is Hawkwind: Do not Panic)
17.Can--Spoon (Ege Bamyasi)
18.Spiral Realms--Interstellar Overdrive (Solar Wind)
19.Orb--Spanish Castles in Space (Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld)
20.Dark Sun--Our Man Inside (Feed Your Mind)
21.ST-37--Strangury (Spaceage)
22.Mushroom--The Magic of Michael (Analog Hi-fi Surprise)
23.PXR1--Spirit of the Age (The Elf and the Hawk comp)
Thanks, Chuck
From CCollins54 at AOL.COM Mon Feb 28 21:25:32 2000
From: CCollins54 at AOL.COM (CCollins54 at AOL.COM)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 21:25:32 EST
Subject: hawkwind remix project
Message-ID: <MON.28.FEB.2000.212532.EST.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
I just got the new Hawkwind cd Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures it is from a
1976 live show and has a never before released track "Time for Sale". It
sells for $17.00 which includes shipping and handling.
Peace and Love,
Jim Collins
From denis at D-RIDER.DE Tue Feb 29 08:48:31 2000
From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht)
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:48:31 +0100
Subject: [OT] Gong & Tim Blake
In-Reply-To: <200002281606.QAA03150@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <TUE.29.FEB.2000.144831.0100.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi,
M Holmes wrote:
>Could be good for us Blake fans. Crystal Island is sposed to be coming
>out Real Soon Now (tm) too.
The "Crystal Island" album will be renamed into "Tide Of The Century".
>Does anyone know if there's a Blake track on the forthcoming 25th
>Birthday CD?
I asked Jonny of planetgong.co.uk and he wrote:
"I don't know if the Tim recordings are good enough to be go on Birthday
Part Too,
or if he wants them to. Someone else is organising the release."
So we can only hope.
>Also: what's Global's relationship to Gong/GAS?
Despite the fact that they released their album on the Gliss label (which
is a part of GAS) I don't know of any further relationship.
cu
D+R
From MPower at EXCHANGE.ML.COM Tue Feb 29 10:26:00 2000
From: MPower at EXCHANGE.ML.COM (Power, Marc (ETS - Equity Development Support))
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 10:26:00 -0500
Subject: BOC: tBS: That cover thang
Message-ID: <TUE.29.FEB.2000.102600.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Maybe this doesn't count but...
I would love to hear tBS (or BOC!) cover the BORN to GO song: 'Trepanation'
;-)
Are you listening Albert?
Space!
Marc,
P.S. You can hear a rough version (and some of the other new BtG stuff)
here:
http://www.iuma.com/IUMA/Bands/BORN_to_GO/
From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Feb 29 10:32:08 2000
From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes)
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 15:32:08 GMT
Subject: [OT] Gong & Tim Blake
In-Reply-To: Denis Regenbrecht's message of Tue, 29 Feb 2000 14:48:31 +0100
Message-ID: <TUE.29.FEB.2000.153208.GMT.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Denis Regenbrecht writes:
> >Also: what's Global's relationship to Gong/GAS?
>
> Despite the fact that they released their album on the Gliss label (which
> is a part of GAS) I don't know of any further relationship.
Does anyone have a discography of Global. I rather like their stuff.
FoFP
From Rob at JAZZBOX.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Feb 29 18:15:24 2000
From: Rob at JAZZBOX.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Robert Robinson)
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 23:15:24 -0000
Subject: >>Stonehenge 84 eh!
Message-ID: <TUE.29.FEB.2000.231524.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Awesome few days!
Missed the Snorkwind gig though,aaaargh!
I remember Karma Kanix (I have a tape of it somewhere),The Invisible
band,(just
one guy I think),Man ,Here +Now, The Enid,plus many great other festival
bands.Big amongst Sheep played too ,though without Nik,I believe.
Hawkwind weren't bad either! :-)
Anyone see a band called Trilogy playing there?,they had a bit of a
Rush sound, Anyone ever heard of them?
cheers
Rob
>>Stonehenge 84 eh!
That would be the evening gig of 20.6 and the sunrise of 21.6. If I remember
correctly Huw thought somebody had knicked his e-bow and due to resulting
"bad karma" decided to hang around. The Snorkwind gigs were great too - in a
large marquee with acrobats and trapeze artist overhead. I have in the past
posted about Henge 84...everyone was in fine form. Dozens of bands all over
the site doing HW covers, usually badly. Two bands stick out in the old
memory: Karma Kanix and Earthbound (Earth Band), the latter had a chinese
singer/guitar player, awesome, he had those Steve Hillage chops to a tee!
Was anyone else there?<<<
From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Feb 29 18:58:51 2000
From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson)
Date: Tue, 29 Feb 2000 18:58:51 -0500
Subject: OFF: Pretty Things
Message-ID: <TUE.29.FEB.2000.185851.0500.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Hi there...
Just a FYI item. I was just planning to send it along to Doug Pearson, but
his email bounced on me (what's the deal, Doug?), so here it is for anyone
interested.
Keith H. (FAA)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
March 2000 brings you another edition of Perfect Sound Forever online
magazine <http://www.furious.com/perfect>. You'll find there, among
many other things:
PRETTY THINGS INTERVIEW: Dick Taylor and co. beat out TOMMY and has no
regrets about quitting the Rolling Stones
From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Feb 27 16:24:18 2000
From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 21:24:18 -0000
Subject: Stonehenge
Message-ID: <SUN.27.FEB.2000.212418.0000.BOCL@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU>
Er that should be ...due to bad karma decided not to hang around
Dave
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