From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Tue Aug 1 05:39:39 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos.org.uk) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 02:39:39 -0700 Subject: HW: CAPTAIN JESUS AND THE SUNRAY DREAM (RON TREE) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: CAPTAIN JESUS AND THE SUNRAY DREAM (RON TREE) ??-??-?? "All Thanks To The Lord Jesus Christ Amen" I gave Ron a tenner for this album in 1995 and never heard a thing! Has anyone got some sort of contact details at all? Is he still in Hawkwind? and finally....... does anyone know if Trevor Hughes is still operating, (I dont get those flyers anymore) Do the TUC comic marts still happen........ -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of linuxchaos.org.uk Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 2:38 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: The Real Undisclosed Files Did anyone notice that at Strange Daze 98 (Garretsville) Capt. Rizz was wearing Masonic Regalia underneath his doctor's coat! -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Brian Halligan Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 7:01 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: The Real Undisclosed Files >From: "Andrew A. Apold" >Thomas Guy wrote: > >Ben, didn't the Templars end up in Scotland? Didn't you realise that the > >Warrior LP cover is actually a Templar Knight atop Glen Coe >They were wiped out by the Stonecutters in a ruthless recruiting war in >the 1890s... They were supposed to be the guardians of the holy grail, rather have out coats thrut than reveal it's meaning. Well Adolf Hitler was after it as well, so for him th4e holy grail was the destruction of it, in fact the destruction of heaven & hell and freemasonry! Hitler was well versed in Jewish Mysticism and used this to justify the destruction of Christianity! Queen Elizabeth Windsor of Deliria claims that the holy grail is a wooden cup full of blood or something and not a new age of unblocked kabbalistic paths. From BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Tue Aug 1 08:22:17 2000 From: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 05:22:17 -0700 Subject: HW: Agents of Chaos Message-ID: [Message 042255 deleted by moderator at the author's request] From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Tue Aug 1 00:17:43 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 00:17:43 -0400 Subject: Chuck van Zyl of WXPN to host Philly show Message-ID: Chuck van Zyl of WXPN's "STAR'S END" will host "The Traveling Outerspace Spectacular" at the Philadelphia show, August 6th. Star's End has been running since 1976, playing space music on saturday nights, between 12-6AM..Check out www.starsend.org http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Tue Aug 1 08:40:01 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 05:40:01 -0700 Subject: OFF: MP# swap Message-ID: Does anyone want to swap MP3 CDRs? I've got just about everything (2000 albums) exept 80s pop (which I am looking for). Swaps welcome! From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Tue Aug 1 07:38:02 2000 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 07:38:02 -0400 Subject: Swap tape 2000 Message-ID: What?!? I'm still waiting for my next installment of the 1999 tape swap :) > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Gilham [SMTP:Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM] > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 7:34 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: OFF: Swap tape 2000 > > Does anybody feel like organising this, this year? Because I can't be > arsed, that's all! But I'd still like to make a tape and stuff. > > -- Andy > > ObDVD: Myl?ne Farmer - _Live ? Bercy_ > > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK Tue Aug 1 07:40:36 2000 From: cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:40:36 +0100 Subject: Swap tape 2000 Message-ID: I'd give this a go, but as I'm peripatetic at the moment and only have this work eMail on any kind of regular basis, I'd beter decline pro tem. If my situation stabilizes and nobody else picks up the baton, I'll raise the subject again. Cheers, ChrisW -----Original Message----- From: Andy Gilham [mailto:Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM] Sent: 31 July 2000 18:34 Subject: OFF: Swap tape 2000 Does anybody feel like organising this, this year? Because I can't be arsed, that's all! But I'd still like to make a tape and stuff. -- Andy ObDVD: Myl?ne Farmer - _Live ? Bercy_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Aug 1 08:08:03 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 08:08:03 -0400 Subject: Swap tape 2000 Message-ID: At 07:38 AM 8/1/2000 -0400, Hall, Russell J wrote: >What?!? I'm still waiting for my next installment of the 1999 tape swap :) >> Subject: OFF: Swap tape 2000 Ah, one branch of the list is actually subscribing to this list from the future, in the year 2021, across the Terminal Cafe at the Biloxi fault. Every time we do a tape swap, that affects things because while Spammer Gain can keep email flowing across the time streams, regular postal mail is limited to real time. Thus everyone who never got their 1998 or 1999 tapes will get them in 2021 and 2022, respectively. One of the advantages is that these tapes will not be wiped out with all the rest in the great EMP pulse of 2011. If you're worried about it, just ask Allan, he just got back from there if I'm not mistaken. "Left behind by the latest trends... eating fried chicken with his regicidal friends... - "Porcelain Monkey" by Warren Zevon =============== Andrew Apold From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Aug 1 08:10:44 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 08:10:44 -0400 Subject: Swap tape 2000 Message-ID: At 12:40 PM 8/1/2000 +0100, Chris Warburton wrote: >I'd give this a go, but as I'm peripatetic at the moment and only have this >work eMail on any kind of regular basis, I'd beter decline pro tem. > >If my situation stabilizes and nobody else picks up the baton, I'll raise >the subject again. Instead of doing a tape, how about collecting MP3's and all sending them about as attachments? Or just collecting them on a private site somewhere? "Left behind by the latest trends... eating fried chicken with his regicidal friends... - "Porcelain Monkey" by Warren Zevon =============== Andrew Apold From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Tue Aug 1 09:24:10 2000 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 14:24:10 +0100 Subject: OFF: Swap tape 2000 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 01 Aug 2000 00:34:02 BST." Message-ID: > Does anybody feel like organising this, this year? Because I can't be > arsed, that's all! But I'd still like to make a tape and stuff. Yeah, I could be up for doing this year's effort. So who's up for it ? I'll be away from my computer for about 10 days from friday but after that I should have the time to sort things. For new boc-l folks, here's the deal. For the last couple of years, list members have compiled compilations (on tape, usually) of just about any music they want to share with other people. There's really no restrictions (though its kinda pointless putting any BOC or Hawkwind on !!). Everybody gets an address of another list member to send their tape to. Once in motion, you'll get a tape from somebody - give it a listen (alternatively wretch with disgust or groove with it). After a couple of weeks or so, forward the tape onto the person next in the chain. Don't go hogging the tapes - the idea is to let everybody get a listen to all the tapes in circulation. So, prospective swappers, mail *me*, not the list. Send to: bart at aeolians.bt.co.uk with your name your email address your surface address To avoid unnecessary halts and hiccups which certainly seem to occur upstream from me in the last couple of years, only take part if yer willing to keeping swapping tapes past the first one. If you don't know what we're on about, check the last two years effort on Zeitgeist's site: http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot/boc99.htm http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot/boc-l.html More info later Tim From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Aug 1 08:50:29 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 13:50:29 +0100 Subject: HW: CAPTAIN JESUS AND THE SUNRAY DREAM (RON TREE) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , linuxchaos.org.uk writes > >and finally....... does anyone know if Trevor Hughes is still operating, (I >dont get those flyers anymore) Do the TUC comic marts still happen........ send him a SAE at Zephyr, he's still "active". Last TUC mart was last Sunday. :( The next isn't till the 29th October. If we're talking comics BTW, the X-Men movie is great! -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Aug 1 08:42:39 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 13:42:39 +0100 Subject: Calvert; Lloyd-Langton In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Andy Gilham writes >Why? Are you going to make it this time? > >;)) > >-- Andy well, I'll try, maaaaan. :) -- Jon From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Aug 1 10:46:05 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 10:46:05 -0400 Subject: OFF: Swap tape 2000 Message-ID: Tim/Bart spake... >> Does anybody feel like organising this, this year? Because I can't be >> arsed, that's all! But I'd still like to make a tape and stuff. > >For new boc-l folks, here's the deal. For the last couple of years, list >members have compiled compilations (on tape, usually) of just about any music >they want to share with other people. There's really no restrictions (though >its kinda pointless putting any BOC or Hawkwind on !!). Everybody gets an >address of another list member to send their tape to. Once in motion, you'll >get a tape from somebody - give it a listen (alternatively wretch with disgust >or groove with it). After a couple of weeks or so, forward the tape onto the >person next in the chain. Don't go hogging the tapes - the idea is to let >everybody get a listen to all the tapes in circulation. I didn't join in last time, partly 'cause I was too lazy and partly 'cause I never understood how it was supposed to go in 1998. And anyway, I had both sent and gotten tapes to and from Sweden. If we're going to do this again this way, it seems logical to have two tape 'rings'...one in Europe and one in the Americas, and perhaps a third in Australasia if the numbers warrant it. And then link the rings together with one volunteer in each region that's willing to continually ship small packages across various ponds. (That's not me, sorry. I'm just a poor student still.) Anyone agree? I'm into CD-R samplers these days...anyone have a problem with that? Are we supposed to keep the artists' names 'secret' once again? (I don't know if you guys did it that way last time or not.) If so, how will the artists' names be revealed to those on down the line? I usually put my email addy on the samplers I make anyway, so I suppose the receiver could always ask by personal email, eh? Grakkl (FAA) From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Aug 1 11:54:12 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 11:54:12 -0400 Subject: OFF: Swap tape 2000 Message-ID: >I didn't join in last time, partly 'cause I was too lazy and partly 'cause I >never understood how it was supposed to go in 1998. And anyway, I had both >sent and gotten tapes to and from Sweden. If we're going to do this again >this way, it seems logical to have two tape 'rings'...one in Europe and one >in the Americas, and perhaps a third in Australasia if the numbers warrant >it. And then link the rings together with one volunteer in each region >that's willing to continually ship small packages across various ponds. >(That's not me, sorry. I'm just a poor student still.) It was innetionally set up to flip-flop across the ocean that way, IIRC. why? well, Steve Swann works for the post office, and... no, I think it was an attempt to see to it that people get stuff not from around their parts on the first branch. of course this implies that the tape ring was expected to break down at some point, so we'd getting our transatlantic fixes done early. "Left behind by the latest trends... eating fried chicken with his regicidal friends... - "Porcelain Monkey" by Warren Zevon =============== Andrew Apold From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Aug 1 12:10:07 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 12:10:07 -0400 Subject: OFF: Swap tape 2000 Message-ID: AA replies... >>I didn't join in last time, partly 'cause I was too lazy and partly 'cause I >>never understood how it was supposed to go in 1998. And anyway, I had both >>sent and gotten tapes to and from Sweden. If we're going to do this again >>this way, it seems logical to have two tape 'rings'...one in Europe and one >>in the Americas, and perhaps a third in Australasia if the numbers warrant >>it. And then link the rings together with one volunteer in each region >>that's willing to continually ship small packages across various ponds. >>(That's not me, sorry. I'm just a poor student still.) > >It was innetionally set up to flip-flop across the ocean that way, IIRC. > >why? well, Steve Swann works for the post office, and... > >no, I think it was an attempt to see to it that people get stuff not from >around their parts on the first branch. Why? I wouldn't imagine that, here in boc-land, people's collections of music would relate that much to their point of origin. I know that if you took a random sample of the music I listen to, it would be damn hard to determine that I was from Ohio, or even from the North American continent for that matter. Now, if we were trading wines or something, I'd see your point. (Take a sip...pass it on.) Or was there some sort of intention last time to make a compilation of local/regional (to you) bands? I thought it was totally open. Though I could easily do an all-Ohio compilation if that's what the intent was. >of course this implies that the >tape ring was expected to break down at some point, so we'd getting our >transatlantic fixes done early. Presumably, the transatlantic fixes would be every other tape you'd get, if it were set up this way. 1-3-5-7-etc. I still don't see the point of doing this, esp. since it costs everyone much more. I already pay heaps to have my CD's shipped across oceans.... :) Grakkl (FAA) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Aug 1 14:47:05 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:47:05 +0100 Subject: OFF: friend of mine is flogging a stereo Message-ID: Dear Folks, normally I wouldn't soil BOC-L with even pseudo- commercial mail but a friend of mine is trying to clear stuff out and amongst it is a complete hi-fi set-up, components specified below. I thought it might be good enough to interest any UK audiophiles so if you're interested, give the bloke an e-mail (I'm sorry about his e-mail address :-) and tell him I sent you. Right, I'll shut up now, yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | ======================================================================| | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 15:51:34 +0100 From: NYB Reply-To: NYB To: Jon Jarrett Subject: Re: vinyl junkies Could well be. It's an Aiwa separates system from 1985 (I think) - LX50 record player, TX110 tuner, MX90 amplifier, and FX50 tape deck all in the system rack it came with. We have a Yamaha CD player as well, but I think my brother wants it. If you post this info tell them to send me the mail directly, mentioning that it was your post they saw it on - that way I'll know they're OK.... cheerz SRV From Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU Tue Aug 1 16:27:38 2000 From: Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU (Doug Bates) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 15:27:38 -0500 Subject: HW: australian video (NTSC) Message-ID: Hi, I'd love to work out a trade. I have almost 100 gigs on cassette and tons of video. I may still have some PAL tapes I converted several years ago. Let me know if your interested. -- Doug Bates > -----Original Message----- > From: michael blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 12:22 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: australian video (NTSC) > > > hi > > I have a PAL copy but i intend to have it duplicated to ntsc > soon as two > other cats want a copy in the states - i'm assuming ntsc is > the american > version > > got any HW paraphinelia you can part with?? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: flossbac > To: > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 3:53 AM > Subject: HW: australian video (NTSC) > > > > So can I hit someone up for an NTSC copy of the recent australian TV > > appearance of the Hawks? > > > > John Majka > > flossbac at nlci.com > > http://www.nlci.com/users/flossbac > > > > > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Aug 1 13:39:11 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 18:39:11 +0100 Subject: HW and OTHER: HW news? PTree releases? Message-ID: From: "Allan T. Grohe, Jr." Subject: HW and OTHER: HW news? PTree releases? > What's the news on the Hawkwind front? --------------------------- Been away meself fer a few days too - releases due in the fall from Hawkwind, Bedouin, Tim Blake and Simon House, Weird Tapes CD reissues from Hawkwind, but not a release date in sight. Most recent thing to hit our shelves has been the live Nik Turner Sphinx CD from 1978 Deeply Vale Festival. Turner's reunion band gigging away and next one is at the Stourbridge all-dayer in September with Bedouin and Bainbridge, a real Hawkfest in itself!!! Meanwhile runours persist of the Brock-Lemmy reunion band/event being only 3 months or so away, so that'll be exciting if and when it happens. ================= Any possible gigs in the USA > besides Strange Daze? ---------------------------- > Someone in the USA will have to answer that. ======================= > While browsing through a retailer I deal with in Pittsburgh, PA > (Paul Olszewski, at http://members.aol.com/paulsstore/), I ran across > some new PTree releases, including a new CD called Lightbulb Sun and > some singles presumably from it (Stranger By the Minute, Pure Narcotic, > and 4 Chords that Made a Million). Any reactions to it yet from the > list? The 'Stranger' and 'Pure' singles are from 'Stupid Dream', the previous album, while the singles from the new 'Lightbulb' album are '4 Chords That Made A Million' and 'Shesmovedon'. All come in various CD and 7-inch permutations and every format has different unrleased tracks exclusive to that particular release so if you want the lot you'll have to hurry as some are already deleted. As to the album, well if you like the band you won't have any trouble with the new album although it is a lot more mellow than 'Stupid Dream' which I greatly prefer. Songs and playing and everything are the usual high standard and they are getting more and more their own identity with every release. > Later! >Exactly!!! Andy Garibaldi (the usual place) From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Aug 1 14:09:17 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:09:17 +0100 Subject: HW: OFF: New A-I.com issue is up Message-ID: ............or better still, get a hold of any mixing board tape from the Hot Tuna USA tour in '75 and you will hear a master bassist and master electric guitarist cooking like few others can match and for which the officially released live album did not even come close to doing justice. Andy Garibaldi. > 1) If you're going to interview bassists who play space/psychedelic music, > you need to spell the master's name correctly. It's Jack CASADY. Now, go > pick yourself up a copy of the Paul Kantner/Jefferson Starship (despite the > moniker, it's a Kantner solo album, and not the gawdawful arenarock band > that he founded a few years later) album 'Blows Against the Empire' (or, if > not, try any live album by Jefferson Airplane, or their 'After Bathing At > Baxter's' or 'Crown of Creation' LP's), put on "Sunrise", the first track > on side 2, crank the volume, turn the bass up to "11", sit back & relax, > and experience what I felt here in the Bay Area in October '89. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Aug 1 14:12:08 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 19:12:08 +0100 Subject: HW: CAPTAIN JESUS AND THE SUNRAY DREAM (RON TREE) Message-ID: e.mail me at agcdser at aol.com and I'll check the vinyl stock although I think we ran out - they all came from Ron though so he's the real original source. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Pearson" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 2:48 AM Subject: Re: HW: CAPTAIN JESUS AND THE SUNRAY DREAM (RON TREE) > On Tue, 1 Aug 2000 02:39:39 -0700, "linuxchaos.org.uk" > wrote: > >CAPTAIN JESUS AND THE SUNRAY DREAM (RON TREE) > > > > ??-??-?? "All Thanks To The Lord Jesus Christ Amen" > > > >I gave Ron a tenner for this album in 1995 and never heard a thing! > > Too bad. I really like both Captain Jesus albums (that one and 'The Day > That Nebulon Exploded'). Very heavy and punky ... good MC5 cover ... > > >Has anyone got some sort of contact details at all? > > There's a PO Box (or some sort of address) listed on the sleeve of both > Captain Jesus LP's. I can look it up tonight after I get home from work ... > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Aug 1 16:23:49 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 21:23:49 +0100 Subject: HW: Agents of Chaos Message-ID: Hmmmm.....if I remember rightly, the CD that came out called 'Agents Of Chaos' consisted of two albums on one CD but without all the tracks intact, so technically, the 'Agents' CD as an original in its own right still doesn't exist. In the dim and distant past in a conversation with Doug Smith, he mentioned that one of the reasons he'd had the name of Hawkwind copyrighted was to stop labels who'd put stuff out on vinyl from releasing things on CD without paying the band any royalties. I've no idea who was and who wasn't but I do know that quite a few were guilty parties. So, the copyright thing prevented that, to a degree. All well and good. So, why oh why oh why are we still waiting for the legit reissues of so much stuff if it's now under correct financial controls? I daresay it'll be the usual 'London Bus' scenario - you wait forever for one and then thirty come along at once!!! Still doesn't explain the Demi-Monde stuff - that must have been some contract, for it all still to be endlessly being reissued. I'd love to know what the band are receiving from these albums (in general not in detail, and if at all)!!!! Andy Garibaldi. > I have a few copies of Agents of Chaos on LP and am looking for it on CD > or CDR, I'll pay $60 for an original. > > See you on CNN World Business this morning. 05:30 - 08:00 GMT From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Wed Aug 2 01:37:04 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:37:04 -0700 Subject: HW: Agents of Chaos Message-ID: I thought it was on flicknife and had all of earthed to the ground and agents of chaos minus mountain in the sky and the bit at the end. I'm still after it and saw an auction where I offered the guy his asking price of $90 but never heard anything! I should just make mp3 s from the lp I suppose? I think mp3 is a great format! 15 hours of music on 1 CD, with this "smart mp3 player" which is basically an mp3 discman you can take all your legally recorded cds away wherever you go. I dont see that mp3 is a threat to CDs (in my case anyway, I cant speak for anyone else) as you can judge by my frequent orders, that is when the credit cards dont bounce! So if anyone wants to sell me the aforementioned cd? The mp3 debate continues on CNN 05:30 GMT Ben ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > Hmmmm.....if I remember rightly, the CD that came out called 'Agents Of > Chaos' consisted of two albums on one CD but without all the tracks intact, > so technically, the 'Agents' CD as an original in its own right still > doesn't exist. > In the dim and distant past in a conversation with Doug Smith, he mentioned > that one of the reasons he'd had the name of Hawkwind copyrighted was to > stop labels who'd put stuff out on vinyl from releasing things on CD without > paying the band any royalties. I've no idea who was and who wasn't but I do > know that quite a few were guilty parties. So, the copyright thing prevented > that, to a degree. All well and good. So, why oh why oh why are we still > waiting for the legit reissues of so much stuff if it's now under correct > financial controls? I daresay it'll be the usual 'London Bus' scenario - you > wait forever for one and then thirty come along at once!!! > Still doesn't explain the Demi-Monde stuff - that must have been some > contract, for it all still to be endlessly being reissued. I'd love to know > what the band are receiving from these albums (in general not in detail, and > if at all)!!!! > Andy Garibaldi. > > > I have a few copies of Agents of Chaos on LP and am looking for it on CD > > or CDR, I'll pay $60 for an original. > > > > See you on CNN World Business this morning. 05:30 - 08:00 GMT From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Wed Aug 2 01:40:06 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 22:40:06 -0700 Subject: HW: Agents of Chaos Message-ID: Do you think it will ever be realeased? > Hmmmm.....if I remember rightly, the CD that came out called 'Agents Of > Chaos' consisted of two albums on one CD but without all the tracks intact, > so technically, the 'Agents' CD as an original in its own right still > doesn't exist. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Aug 1 23:09:00 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2000 23:09:00 -0400 Subject: HW: Harvey & Quarkspace Message-ID: Hello everyone... Last night was a fun night. The fourth ex-Hawkwind member I've seen gracing the Halls of Columbus since I've lived here, following Nik & Del in 1994, and Lemmy on a number of occasions. As you all know, the show was retained at Little Brothers, a moderately-sized club that brings in quite a few 'alternative' artists of some note. It's not too far from OSU campus, so when in session, I'm sure it brings in a fair numbers of upperclass (in a manner of speaking) students. Not tonight though...summertime on a Monday night is not exactly a happenin' night on High Street! But a decent number came out last night to see the show. Perhaps 60 or so. Doesn't sound like much, but we were thinking that it would be barren. And a big turnout would've meant that a lot of folks came thinking it was 'more' Hawkwind than it was, which would have been bad. Q-space's Paul kept hounding the papers to get it right, and the ads were not misleading, though still a bit vague. Anyway, Quarkspace took the stage at around 10:15, and played about 1:50 or so. Their sound guy never showed, so the band mixed themselves. (Chet took a few wind sprints between the stage and the board.) Paul's drums ended up being too loud (which has never happened before), but it wasn't bothersome except for the one or two quieter acoustic numbers (like Outerspace Highway). On these, the percussion drowned out Chet's vocals (and nearly everything else). They did a rather technotronic set of stuff, prolly 'cause of Harvey being there. I can never remember the titles, but I think 'Recaesarian,' 'Starbridge Freaks,' and 'We are QPR' were the ones they did. Guitarist Dave Wexler really was smokin' all through the second half of their set, beginning with some terrific space-slide guitar on the dreamy, Floydian track "The Circle." Harvey came on at about 12:30 and played about 1:05, totally solo. He had only a keyboard and two other units, one of which looked like a DAT playback unit, and another thing full of knobs. So, really, it was less than a fully 'live' performance, but then that's kinda what I expected. He started out with Heading: Cygnus X-1 from Interstellar Chaos, and then went into the two HW tracks Dream Worker/Blue Dreamer and Freefall. The former is as you would expect, the latter a little strange. E-bass for real bass of course, and his disjointed echoed vocals not matching the original, certainly. Then he went through a warm ambient phase (nice!) and a long pulsating synth jam to close out. I rather expected/hoped for TV Suicide (yes, I like it!), and Toad on the Road, but maybe he could be talked into those at SD (if he brought them with him.) :) So musically-speaking, it wasn't so phenomenal or anything, but it woulda worked great as Stage Two between Q-space and Star Nation. If... And Jim L. and Brian F. did a fabulous job with the visuals!!! Not so many bodies (well, just one) and little equipment gave them a big panoramic tapestry to project onto, and all sorts of great space stills and rotating lights were seen. This made it a great A-V show. I kinda doubt he'll have the lights working for him at SD'2K if he's in the tent and it's too light out. That's too bad. I asked Jim about SD-Sat. night, and it seems there's still no final answer, though I gather there's not to be any last minute new names added. Probably just a shuffling of time schedule. A suggestion was made to me however, that we may see over the last half-hour or so of Saturday night, the main stage cluttered with members of various bands (i.e., those on the schedule) all jamming together. I think you could probably guess who some of those folks might be. So...those of you in Philly and NYC, I'd definitely suggest checking out the show, regardless of whether you're coming to SD'2K or not. Partly because of the cool space show, and partly because the openers there (Sloterdijk and Escapade) won't be at SD'2K. Yours in Space...Grakkl (FAA) From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Wed Aug 2 04:11:16 2000 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 09:11:16 +0100 Subject: OFF: Swap tape 2000 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 01 Aug 2000 10:46:05 EDT." <200008011551.LAA08774@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: To answer some points raised - - I guess CD-Rs are OK. Hopefully there's only a small percentage of folks out there who wouldn't be able to play them somehow (while I find my CD player can be a bit fickle about 'em, the PC copes). - Transatlantic / Autrailasian postage costs. Well, I guess there's probably a few hard working salarymen on the list who could probably put up with the cost of shipping a tape overseas. If you are prepared to do this then add a note when you mail me to sign up. - tape information. Whether you put you name on the tape is entirely optional, though it might be a good idea to put an email address on so you can enthuse/hassle the source person as you wish. Whether you include artist/track information is also optional - I believe the original idea was perhaps to not list artists too prominently, to promote the idea of 'listening without prejudice'. Do at least keep a note of the information about your own tape in case somebody really wants to know. Tim Tim From cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK Wed Aug 2 05:00:36 2000 From: cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 10:00:36 +0100 Subject: Off: Xpeeps Message-ID: I'm pleased to hear it... I was sceptical, depite some of the positive vibes.... Guess I'll give it a whirl. ChrisW -----Original Message----- If we're talking comics BTW, the X-Men movie is great! -- Jon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Aug 2 07:57:41 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 12:57:41 +0100 Subject: Xpeeps In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Carl just stopped by at the weekend, and he was very positive about it... -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Wed Aug 2 19:40:53 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 16:40:53 -0700 Subject: HW: Agents of Chaos Message-ID: linuxchaos wrote: > I thought it was on flicknife and had all of earthed to the ground and agents of > chaos minus mountain in the sky and the bit at the end. > After mountain in the sky theres a sort of analogue synth bit which repeats itself (a bit like the bit at the end of pyromania by def leppard).It's just a reprise of the song. I also got the lyrics for mountain in the sky: Long ago these unneutered skies told our race a tortured lie, the winds had born them across the land their existence still dust in our hands. Their voices cackled and upon their ears could not abate all of their fears, the seas had frothed and turned to steam! their flesh was scalded for one humans dream It's not a humans dweam (repeat). Fantastic Album! From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Aug 2 15:56:31 2000 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2000 20:56:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Lots of spare cuttings Message-ID: Hi, I have lots (a few hundred) spare photocopies of HW cuttings from music papers spanning 70-98. If anybody wants them, then all I ask is the postage cost. I'd stab a guess at a couple of quid, but if anyone shows an interest I'll get the actual cost sorted. I've also catalogued them all, so I can send a copy of that as well, to ease dating them. Whilst on the subject, has anybody else out there got a collection that they are willing to trade photo-copies of? Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Aug 2 21:30:54 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:00:54 +0930 Subject: HW: australian video (NTSC) Message-ID: Hi any videos would be of interest to me what i'll do is send you a copy of my abc program you look at it and decide what its worth to you peace and may Hawkwind come to your town soon ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Bates To: Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 5:57 AM Subject: Re: HW: australian video (NTSC) > Hi, > > I'd love to work out a trade. I have almost 100 gigs on > cassette and tons of video. I may still have some PAL tapes > I converted several years ago. Let me know if your interested. > > > > -- > Doug Bates > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: michael blackman [mailto:michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU] > > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 12:22 PM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: HW: australian video (NTSC) > > > > > > hi > > > > I have a PAL copy but i intend to have it duplicated to ntsc > > soon as two > > other cats want a copy in the states - i'm assuming ntsc is > > the american > > version > > > > got any HW paraphinelia you can part with?? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: flossbac > > To: > > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 3:53 AM > > Subject: HW: australian video (NTSC) > > > > > > > So can I hit someone up for an NTSC copy of the recent australian TV > > > appearance of the Hawks? > > > > > > John Majka > > > flossbac at nlci.com > > > http://www.nlci.com/users/flossbac > > > > > > > > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Aug 2 21:48:12 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:18:12 +0930 Subject: OFF: Burnt Hippie Message-ID: kewell man ----- Original Message ----- From: SHLL (Scott Heller) To: Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 6:42 PM Subject: OFF: Burnt Hippie > Hej, > > Our web site is finally up. Please come visit and send us some > comments. As for future releases, we hope to put out a live Mandra gora > Lightshow Society limited vinyl release in the winter.. Maybe, another live > On Trial record as well. We will see.. > > scott > > www.burnthippie.dk From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Aug 2 21:49:07 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:19:07 +0930 Subject: Calvert; Lloyd-Langton Message-ID: yeah when is it happening!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Browne To: Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:23 AM Subject: Re: Calvert; Lloyd-Langton > In message <2.2.32.20000731151519.00961b20 at gwis.com>, Gary Davis > writes > >Hawkwind's reunion shows at Brixton Academy will include Huw in the line up > >along with Lemmy. > > oh, good. > When will this be happening then? > -- > Jon > From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Thu Aug 3 01:03:10 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 07:03:10 +0200 Subject: HW: Lots of spare cuttings Message-ID: Hello Jez, Yes,yes,yes,I have quite a lot too,so maybe we can swap? e-mail me privately best wishes filip ----- Original Message ----- From: J D To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 9:56 PM Subject: HW: Lots of spare cuttings Hi, I have lots (a few hundred) spare photocopies of HW cuttings from music papers spanning 70-98. If anybody wants them, then all I ask is the postage cost. I'd stab a guess at a couple of quid, but if anyone shows an interest I'll get the actual cost sorted. I've also catalogued them all, so I can send a copy of that as well, to ease dating them. Whilst on the subject, has anybody else out there got a collection that they are willing to trade photo-copies of? Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 3 05:50:04 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:50:04 +0100 Subject: Further Codex mysteries solved Message-ID: Thanks to whoever pointed out the link between the Hawkfan 12 and Undisclosed Files versions of Ghost Dance That error is now fixed (and BTW I still have a CD copy of Undisclosed Files available if anyone is looking for it). I've also sorted out the various versions of Silver Machine on the Infected.. 12", the Infected... CD, and the two Epoch collections (there are 4 versions of Silver Machine between them). So the Codex and Discography have now been updated. FoFP From cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK Thu Aug 3 05:31:15 2000 From: cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:31:15 +0100 Subject: Swap tape 2000 Message-ID: Nice idea, but for me, that's more expensive (and more hassle) than postage on tapes, and by definition excludes those people working on less capable (or sahred) equipment. Though I expect it's what we'll be doing before too long. Anyway, I can't play MP3s in my car!!!!! Cheers, ChrisW -----Original Message----- From: Andrew A. Apold [mailto:mordru at FLITE.NET] Sent: 01 August 2000 07:11 Subject: Re: Swap tape 2000 At 12:40 PM 8/1/2000 +0100, Chris Warburton wrote: >I'd give this a go, but as I'm peripatetic at the moment and only have this >work eMail on any kind of regular basis, I'd beter decline pro tem. > >If my situation stabilizes and nobody else picks up the baton, I'll raise >the subject again. Instead of doing a tape, how about collecting MP3's and all sending them about as attachments? Or just collecting them on a private site somewhere? "Left behind by the latest trends... eating fried chicken with his regicidal friends... - "Porcelain Monkey" by Warren Zevon =============== Andrew Apold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 3 06:03:29 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 11:03:29 +0100 Subject: Swap tape 2000 In-Reply-To: Chris Warburton's message of Thu, 3 Aug 2000 10:31:15 +0100 Message-ID: Chris Warburton writes: [...] Chris, I was meant to meet up with you last night. Last minute panic at work ruled that out. Look like next week is out too. How about the following week we organise a get-together with the other Hawkwind fans around Edinburgh? Who's still around? Stuart? Dave? Maybe Jill could co-ordinate this as I'm gonna be out of commission? FoFP From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Thu Aug 3 20:33:08 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 17:33:08 -0700 Subject: HW: Lots of spare cuttings Message-ID: OK I'll take you up on that, if you send me youre address I'll get the postage to you. When my list is ready I'll bung in a few video tapes as well. cheers ben J D wrote: > Hi,I have lots (a few hundred) spare photocopies of HW cuttings from > music papers spanning 70-98.If anybody wants them, then all I ask is > the postage cost.I'd stab a guess at a couple of quid, but if anyone > shows an interest I'll get the actual cost sorted.I've also catalogued > them all, so I can send a copy of that as well, to ease dating > them.Whilst on the subject, has anybody else out there got a > collection that they are willing to trade photo-copies of?Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Thu Aug 3 13:13:31 2000 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 18:13:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Well nearly, ish ! Message-ID: Hi guys, It's shameless plug time again. Friday August 25th 2000 The Victoria Inn Derby The 5th Annual Spacerock Party >From about 7:00pm until well late (for the UK anyway) Bar 'til 1:00am Door price is a measly three quid to cover costs. Entertainment by Dr Hasbeen and the amazing Time Brothers (most of them), other bits may well fall in ad-hoc ?? An evening of spacerock in the tradition of the acknowledged "Masters of the Universe", meaning of course that we'll be covering some Hawks tracks :-) Jez and others of the Time Brothers will be making the trip to Derby for music, merriment and inebriating fluids. Hopefully we'll get a huge 'jam' going to end the evening. Your support for this event is encouraged, for further details contact me at mark at esparto.uk.com or Martyn at martyn at hasbeens.fsnet.co.uk or speak to Jez on the list Cheers, Mark (Hasbeen) mark at esparto.uk.com mark.p.lee at genie.co.uk mark.p.lee at sms.genie.co.uk (to cellphone) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ END MESSAGE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Thu Aug 3 20:17:53 2000 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:17:53 BST Subject: Hawkwind / Mazda Message-ID: Hello Everyone, The version of Silver Machine used on the advert seems to have a few extra 'swirly bits' in it which are absent from the '72 7" single. Does anyone know if these have these been added for the advert, or were they removed from the single? Cheers Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Aug 3 15:43:32 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 12:43:32 -0700 Subject: Hawkwind / Mazda Message-ID: On Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:17:53 BST, Michael Crook wrote: >The version of Silver Machine used on the advert seems to have >a few extra 'swirly bits' in it which are absent from the '72 >7" single. Does anyone know if these have these been added for >the advert, or were they removed from the single? Heh heh ... just when Mike thought he had the codex up-to-date. If there actually is a difference, then I *really* want to see the commercial. Someone's gonna have to get a video shipped over to this side of the pond (and here's an idea: how about screening it at Strange Daze between bands after the sun goes down? THAT would be cool, and I'm sure that with the lightshow, Jim has the technology) -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Aug 3 16:20:21 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 21:20:21 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind / Mazda In-Reply-To: <20000803191654.ZDLL1601.t21mta02-app.talk21.com@t21mtaV-lrs> Message-ID: I think a few sound effects that go with the action in the ad, such as when the sails billow. But I've only seen the ad twice, and the first time I had the "mute" button on so I didn't even realise it was Silver Machine! It was on during NYPD Blue last week so it might be on again tonight... -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Michael Crook > Sent: 03 August 2000 21:18 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Hawkwind / Mazda > > > Hello Everyone, > > The version of Silver Machine used on the advert seems to have a > few extra 'swirly bits' in it which are absent from the '72 7" > single. Does anyone know if these have these been added for the > advert, or were they removed from the single? > > Cheers > Mick > > > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Aug 3 18:45:39 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 23:45:39 +0100 Subject: Swap tape 2000 Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 11:03 AM Subject: Re: Swap tape 2000 > Chris Warburton writes: > > [...] > > > Chris, > > I was meant to meet up with you last night. Last minute panic at work > ruled that out. Look like next week is out too. How about the following > week we organise a get-together with the other Hawkwind fans around > Edinburgh? Who's still around? Stuart? Dave? > > Maybe Jill could co-ordinate this as I'm gonna be out of commission? > > FoFP > From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Aug 3 19:00:44 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 00:00:44 +0100 Subject: Message for Chris Warburton (and others) Message-ID: sorry about the extra copy of this I sent to the list - daft email system. Serves me right for trying to reply when still on line. Also that it's so completely off topic but if people can email me privately after this it'll be the only message on this subject. Thank you for your tolerance. Ok - who is around Edinburgh and would like to meet up somewhere for a drink-cum Hawkchat sometime during week beginning 14th August? Mike is away next week and I'm struggling with a headcold so next week is definitely out but if anyone is around from the 14th onwards email me privately (address below) and hopefully we can arrange something. Glad to hear you are in residence Chris. How's it going? cheers jill ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 11:03 AM Subject: Re: Swap tape 2000 > Chris Warburton writes: > > [...] > > > Chris, > > I was meant to meet up with you last night. Last minute panic at work > ruled that out. Look like next week is out too. How about the following > week we organise a get-together with the other Hawkwind fans around > Edinburgh? Who's still around? Stuart? Dave? > > Maybe Jill could co-ordinate this as I'm gonna be out of commission? > > FoFP > From nick at NETPHD.NET Thu Aug 3 19:33:08 2000 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 19:33:08 -0400 Subject: BOC: Deb's shirt Message-ID: This may have been discussed ages ago, I don't know. But I was just recently listening to Eponymous, and I noticed that on the back cover of the CD, Deb seems to be wearing an old BOC shirt with charicatures of the band on it. Given Al's history with the band, anyone know why Deb would be wearing that shirt for the Surgeons' debut album? --Nick From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Aug 3 20:38:18 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:38:18 -0400 Subject: BOC: Deb's shirt Message-ID: Nick wrote: >This may have been discussed ages ago, I don't know. >But I was just recently listening to Eponymous, and I >noticed that on the back cover of the CD, Deb seems to >be wearing an old BOC shirt with charicatures of the >band on it. Given Al's history with the band, anyone >know why Deb would be wearing that shirt for the >Surgeons' debut album? It's a Secret Treaties shirt. I always thought it was a little joke. Or, I heard that they weren't necessarily ready to get their picture taken that day. Schedule change or whatever, I'm not sure. So maybe it was just something she threw on and it ended up getting captured on film. Anyway, they have plenty of their own T-shirts to wear now! :-) Brian ----- Brian Halligan mailto:blackblade at bhalligan.com http://www.bhalligan.com/ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Aug 3 20:51:12 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:51:12 -0400 Subject: HW: SD'2K / Harvey Message-ID: Hi Folks... Looks like Saturday night will end up being Quarkspace (main outdoor stage), Alien Planetscapes (tent stage), Harvey Bainbridge (main outdoor stage) to close. No big surprises, and perhaps he heard me about Harvey coming across much better with the cool space lightshow (which will happen now). I think musically, his set (as it went here in Col's) was not of 'headlining caliber,' but with the amazing aft-evening lineup on Saturday, who's going to be complaining? It'll be great to chill out and watch the space unfold, as much as listen, by that hour. Chances are I won't get any sleep Friday night, so nudge me if you see me nodding off! :) Hey, as far as anyone knows, is this Harvey's discography, outside HW (I'm not including Ark, unless there's some CD I don't know about)? Was Mamissi actually released on CD? These are all on Taste right? Are they still in business, at this address? Any website/email? I guess Red Shifts are OOP? The others? Solo Harvey Bainbridge: Interstellar Chaos (1988, CD1993) Red Shift (1996) w/ Alman Mulo Band: Mamissi (1983, CD1993) Orisha (1985, CD1993) Invisible Warrior (1986, CD1993) Afrodiziac (1990, CD1993) Diamonds and Toads (1994) many others with Hawkwind (1978-90) Taste, P.O. Box 775, London E5 9DE UK Thanks in advance... Grakkl (FAA) From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Fri Aug 4 02:28:39 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 01:28:39 -0500 Subject: HW: Harvey set Message-ID: I have posted Harvey's 7-27-00 set to the internet. The full show is at Please open this link in your browser window: http://www.myspace.com/Folders/5173947/ Use the following password to access the folder: "borntogo" - for reading There are 8 tracks in 128kb mp3 form. Gong has confirmed a show for 9-20-00 in Minneapolis at First Avenue. see ya From BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Fri Aug 4 13:05:06 2000 From: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:05:06 -0700 Subject: OFF: HW: Hypocrisy Message-ID: [Message 042301 deleted by moderator at the author's request] From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Fri Aug 4 13:07:12 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:07:12 -0700 Subject: Press Cuttings Message-ID: Yes definitely! I'll do that, or I could scan them then the others could print them as required. Ben J D wrote: Hi,All 5 of you have requested the cuttings, which leaves me in somewhat of a quandry.I could split them, but that would be a drag.How about I weigh them, send you all the postal cost and we'll take it from there.I suppose if anyone out there is organised enough, then they could sort 'em, and photocopy them for the other 4.Have any of you got any that you could photocopy for me in return? (that could well be my deciding factor).Failing any of the above, I'll just have to toss a 5 sided coin!Jez From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Fri Aug 4 05:12:00 2000 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:12:00 +0100 Subject: HW: RE: Well Almost Message-ID: Talk about stupid... Friday 25th August Dr Hasbeen, Spacehead, The Time Brothers. -------------------- I completely forgot to incluce Spacehead, Dibs will not be chuffed as he's making the journey over from Buxton to join us on the 25th. Even more reason to trundle down to Derby !! >Friday August 25th 2000 >The Victoria Inn >Derby > >The 5th Annual Spacerock Party >>>From about 7:00pm until well late (for the UK anyway) >Bar 'til 1:00am >Door price is a measly three quid to cover costs. > >Entertainment by Dr Hasbeen and the amazing >Time Brothers (most of them), other bits may >well fall in ad-hoc ?? > >An evening of spacerock in the tradition of the >acknowledged "Masters of the Universe", meaning >of course that we'll be covering some Hawks tracks :-) > >Jez and others of the Time Brothers will be making the >trip to Derby for music, merriment and inebriating fluids. >Hopefully we'll get a huge 'jam' going to end the evening. > >Your support for this event is encouraged, for further >details contact me at mark at esparto.uk.com >or Martyn at martyn at hasbeens.fsnet.co.uk >or speak to Jez on the list > From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Fri Aug 4 06:01:04 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 11:01:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: Motorhead Message-ID: I assume that Castle have re-released "No Remorse" as "Killed By Death" is on this months Uncut sampler. Stuart http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 4 07:54:12 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 12:54:12 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind / Mazda In-Reply-To: Michael Crook's message of Thu, 3 Aug 2000 20:17:53 BST Message-ID: Michael Crook writes: > Hello Everyone, >The version of Silver Machine used on the advert seems to have a few >extra 'swirly bits' in it which are absent from the '72 7" single. Does >anyone know if these have these been added for the advert, or were they >removed from the single? Nah, I'm sure they'rejust added forthe advert. FoFP From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Aug 4 08:16:14 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 08:16:14 -0400 Subject: BOC: Deb's shirt Message-ID: At 07:33 PM 8/3/2000 -0400, Nick English wrote: >This may have been discussed ages ago, I don't know. >But I was just recently listening to Eponymous, and I >noticed that on the back cover of the CD, Deb seems to >be wearing an old BOC shirt with charicatures of the >band on it. Given Al's history with the band, anyone >know why Deb would be wearing that shirt for the >Surgeons' debut album? It is a shirt by Melne, I believe. I asked Deb about it awhile back when she was on the list. Just cause she doesn't like the way the current incarnation of BOC treated Albert doesn't mean she isn't a fan of the band, especially as it was back w hen Albert was in it... "Left behind by the latest trends... eating fried chicken with his regicidal friends... - "Porcelain Monkey" by Warren Zevon =============== Andrew Apold From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Fri Aug 4 08:38:34 2000 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 08:38:34 -0400 Subject: BOC, BRAIN: Deb's shirt Message-ID: I don't believe the t-shirt is not a Secret Treaties shirt - I was told that the artwork for that particular shirt was done by none other than Melne of the BOC fanclub. Why would Deb wear that shirt? Well, she is rather fond of the drummer in that shirt now, isn't she? ;-) Yeah I know, you'd almost expect to see a big "X" over the image of Bloom... I also recall reading somewhere about that being a sort of impromptu photo. By the way, in the original photo, they aren't holding a picture of the Eponymous cover artwork - it was a picture of a young boy (I'm not sure if I ever found out who - assumed it was either Ace or Albert). John > >This may have been discussed ages ago, I don't know. > >But I was just recently listening to Eponymous, and I > >noticed that on the back cover of the CD, Deb seems to > >be wearing an old BOC shirt with charicatures of the > >band on it. Given Al's history with the band, anyone > >know why Deb would be wearing that shirt for the > >Surgeons' debut album? > > It's a Secret Treaties shirt. I always thought it was a little joke. > Or, I > heard that they weren't necessarily ready to get their picture taken > that > day. Schedule change or whatever, I'm not sure. So maybe it was just > something she threw on and it ended up getting captured on film. > > Anyway, they have plenty of their own T-shirts to wear now! :-) From Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU Fri Aug 4 09:32:50 2000 From: Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU (Doug Bates) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 08:32:50 -0500 Subject: SD'2K / Harvey Message-ID: Awww man, so Quarkspace (yawn) did get the night-time slot to bad. Since Jim pulls out all the big guns for the light show for the closer Sat I was hoping for some Space AND rock as a complement. I think a band from Chicago called Solar ?Confusion? has been added to SD2K. Reportedly with their own light show, dancers, costumes and rocking space sound. It sounds like ole Sol will be their light show now. Anyway, looking forward to next week and seeing everyone again! BTW, if Black Elk speaks just pass him the pipe... -- Doug Bates > Hi Folks... > > Looks like Saturday night will end up being Quarkspace (main > outdoor stage), > Alien Planetscapes (tent stage), Harvey Bainbridge (main > outdoor stage) to > close. > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Aug 4 09:14:32 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 09:14:32 -0400 Subject: HW: OFF: SD'2K / Harvey Message-ID: Doug misreads me with... >Awww man, so Quarkspace (yawn) did get the night-time slot to bad. Since >Jim pulls out all the big guns for the light show for the closer Sat I was >hoping for some Space AND rock as a complement. Ummmm...no. I meant those three in order, so Q-space perhaps 7-8:15ish, A.P. in the tent 8:30-9:45ish, and Harvey 10-11ish (unless he expands his set to fill more time....was 65 min. here in Col's). So Q-space is by far the most 'rock' there, sorry. (A.P. is an 'electronic duo' now in case you didn't know.) >I think a band from Chicago called Solar ?Confusion? has been added to SD2K. >Reportedly with their own light show, dancers, costumes and rocking space >sound. That name sounds vaguely familiar...I'll have to check it out. >It sounds like ole Sol will be their light show now. Yeah, really. I guess it'll only be dark enough for Harvey to have lights, unless they have something going in the tent as well. (They did last year, but then they had Rob Jacobs' lights going on the outdoor stage.) >Anyway, looking forward to next week and seeing everyone again! Yeah, really! Grakkl (FAA) From Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU Fri Aug 4 11:17:39 2000 From: Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU (Doug Bates) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:17:39 -0500 Subject: HW: OFF: SD'2K / Harvey Message-ID: AP with no guitars, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Mellow, ambient music will just kill the mosh pit this year! :-) -- Doug Bates > So Q-space is by far the most 'rock' there, sorry. (A.P. is > an 'electronic > duo' now in case you didn't know.) > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Aug 4 10:44:58 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 10:44:58 -0400 Subject: HW: OFF: SD'2K / Harvey Message-ID: Doug cries... >AP with no guitars, nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Well, actually Orlando does play guitar, in addition to synths and stuff. But it's not the same guitar as you would expect from recent AP's. He plays very aggressively in one sense, but to make it fit in with the Martian theme, he puts it through some sort of dampening field to make it sound distant and therefore less prominent. Anyway, you won't recognize any of the music. Thanks for keeping an open mind. :) >Mellow, ambient music will just kill the mosh pit this year! :-) And how! There's always Ozz-Fest. :) Well, I too, think it makes sense to put on a 'rock' show to close out Saturday, but then what the hell are you gonna do if Star Nation decides they didn't wanna do it after all? If it were my festival, I would probably have put ST 37 on last, but then of course, it's not my festival and I'd rather not have to hear a bunch of people complaining about how I scheduled things. So to those people (I imagine no one here) who decide to lay about at their campsites and veg all day, only to show up when it gets dark and they think the show is *really* set to begin, I say 'Screw you, if you think it's too ambient, where the hell were you all afternoon.' I can see it coming. Grakkl (FAA) From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Aug 4 15:19:49 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 15:19:49 -0400 Subject: OFF: Release date for new Frond CD Message-ID: >From http://www.rubricrecords.com/ >Bevis Frond CD October 3, 2000 > >Acid Jam 2 CD September 18, 2000 Also, if anyone hasn't been to the Woronzow site lately, they will be accepting credit cards "soon." Brian From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Fri Aug 4 16:11:35 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 16:11:35 -0400 Subject: [Hawkwind] Fwd: Hawkwind's Harvey Bainbridge & The Traveing Outerspace Spectacular In-Reply-To: 's message of Fri, 4 Aug 2000 14:04:35 -0700 Message-ID: We are getting some really good media here in the Philadelphia area. Today I saw a small feature article in The Burlington County Times. This was written by Marty Franzen who is a syndicated columnist in this area. Consequetly the same article will appear in 7 other papers as well... Bob Lennon, if you read this, the article may also be found in the Bucks County Courier Times, and possibly the Montgomery County Times. There is also a listing in the Philadelphia Inquirer, and several other papers in the Central/South Jersey, and Northeastern PA newspapers. I know of two radio stations which have been plugging the show ( which I can actually receive), as well as several others which are out of my broadcast range.. For those of you within broadcast range of Philadelphia, or beyond, Chuck van Zyl of STAR'S END 89.1, will be playing some material by Harvey tonight, as well as some Hawkwind. The show runs from 1:00 am to 6:00 tomorrow night (SAT). This show is relayed as far as Baltimore, and The Lehigh Valley etc. Check www.starsend.org for the call letters and locations of the relay stations... If you are within the greater Philadelphia, Deleware/South central New Jersey region, check your local papers for any type of announcement and or ad (including philly club listings). I am interested to find out what other papers might be printing info about the philly gig. Peace, Mike http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Fri Aug 4 16:42:35 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 16:42:35 -0400 Subject: A call for help... Message-ID: I am very disappointed with The Times (of Trenton , NJ), as I have been sending them info regarding the show in Philly for weeks. They never printed my information regarding the show, in favor of printing just the khyber's schedule, which would be fine, but they omitted any listing at all on the khyber's schedule, and skipped from an August 5th show to an August 11th show on that schedule...Now I have been to the Khyber and everything is fine. They are quite excited about the show..This a blunder on the part of the newspaper. They have chosen, it seems to disregard my corrections announcement etc, so now I am asking you to help: Here's How: Send an e-mail to these two addresses: Letters at NJTimes and News at NJTimes, informing them of this blunder. If enough people write in, we may get this problem fixed by the day of the show..You can provide them with the information below, but don't fwd it to them, or they will just delete it.. For anyone who wants to take a slightly more aggressive approach you can call and voice your opinions at: (609) 871-8000 (main number with menu) Or to really get to the heart of the matter you can reach the news bureau directly at these numbers: (609) 871-8054, 8066 Peace, MIke http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: SLOTERDIJK at webtv.net (SLOTERDIJK) Subject: Hawkwind's Harvey Bainbridge & The Traveing Outerspace Spectacular Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 12:17:04 -0400 (EDT) Size: 1926 URL: From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Fri Aug 4 16:52:22 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 16:52:22 -0400 Subject: [ARTIMUS-SLOTERDIJK-Pod] A call for help... In-Reply-To: Sloterdijk@webtv.net's message of Fri, 4 Aug 2000 16:42:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Everyone that's News at NJTimes.com and Letters at NJTimes.com very busy day today!!! http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Aug 4 17:15:47 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:15:47 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind / Mazda Message-ID: I spoke to those wonderful people at EMI and there are no plams at all to release the single on the back of the advert. 'Do you think there will be any demand?', I was asked. Once I'd finished choking on my cup of tea, I replied, 'well, yeh, there certainly will be'. 'For the original version?', they retorted. Cue splutter two. 'Well, judging by the reception your dance promo got in the press last year, the fact that several key DJ's on Radio's One and Two may play it, and several other factorsa besides, then yes, there would be demand'.'Well, I could suggest that to those responsible', she said.' But that's not much good', I said, 'unless the ad campaign is planning on lasting a month or two and the label can get their finger out. Surely they must have known this was happening so why on earth didn't they plan ahead?' There we left it. But, you know why they didn't plan ahead? Because the major labels are now staffed by people young enough never to have heard of the band, who are all trained to seek out the next Boyzone or Fatboy Slim, who have completely lost sight of the idea, if ever they had it, that people over the age of 30 have disposbale income for CD's and are not all into jazz or Doris Day!!! Well, that's my potential job working for EMI shot through the window, I guess........ Andy Garibaldi. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Aug 4 17:22:12 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:22:12 +0100 Subject: SD'2K / + 1 Message-ID: How about all you Americans club together, have a whip round (that's a colloquial English phrase for getting all you money off you) and fund Spacehead, Krel and Bedouin for next years's Strange Daze - now THAT would blow your socks off. Cheap flights anyone???? Andy G (biased of course). From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Aug 4 17:25:33 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:25:33 +0100 Subject: Message for Chris Warburton (and others) Message-ID: Rats- I'll miss you all, as I'm taking a rare trip to the bright lights of Edinburgh for a meeting with a man about a new and interesting way of selling music by downloading off the net, on Saturday 12th. Ho hum......... Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Strobridge" To: Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 12:00 AM Subject: Message for Chris Warburton (and others) > sorry about the extra copy of this I sent to the list - daft email > system. Serves me right for trying to reply when still on line. > Also that it's so completely off topic but if people can email me > privately after this it'll be the only message on this subject. > Thank you for your tolerance. > > Ok - who is around Edinburgh and would like to meet up somewhere for a > drink-cum Hawkchat sometime during week beginning 14th August? > Mike is away next week and I'm struggling with a headcold so next week > is definitely out but if anyone is around from the 14th onwards email me > privately (address below) and hopefully we can arrange something. > > Glad to hear you are in residence Chris. How's it going? > > cheers > jill > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jill Strobridge > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: M Holmes > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 11:03 AM > Subject: Re: Swap tape 2000 > > > > Chris Warburton writes: > > > > [...] > > > > > > Chris, > > > > I was meant to meet up with you last night. Last minute panic at work > > ruled that out. Look like next week is out too. How about the > following > > week we organise a get-together with the other Hawkwind fans around > > Edinburgh? Who's still around? Stuart? Dave? > > > > Maybe Jill could co-ordinate this as I'm gonna be out of commission? > > > > FoFP > > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Aug 4 17:29:09 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:29:09 +0100 Subject: HW: SD'2K / Harvey Message-ID: Was Mamissi > actually released on CD? These are all on Taste right? Not as far as I can recall. Are they still in > business, at this address? Any website/email? Try getting hold of Bill Wood at Taste - easier to get hold of Elvis!!!!! I guess Red Shifts are OOP? Technically, yeah, although I can imagine Bill's sitting on a stack of stuff that I want to buy for CDS but he doesn't know and I can't find him and Cargo don't know where he is either and they're supposed to be his distributors. > The others? > Ditto > Solo Harvey Bainbridge: > Interstellar Chaos (1988, CD1993) > Red Shift (1996) > w/ Alman Mulo Band: > Mamissi (1983, CD1993) > Orisha (1985, CD1993) > Invisible Warrior (1986, CD1993) > Afrodiziac (1990, CD1993) > Diamonds and Toads (1994) > many others with Hawkwind (1978-90) > > Taste, P.O. Box 775, London E5 9DE UK > > Thanks in advance... > Grakkl (FAA) From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Aug 4 17:31:30 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:31:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: HW: Hypocrisy Message-ID: No financial worries, no family worries, no job worries - Jesus, if I had that I'd live smiling to 100 - God bless you maam!!! (well, that's the EMI job AND the knighthood out of the window in one night!!!!) Andy Garibaldi (on a roll) ----- Original Message ----- From: "" <> To: Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 6:05 PM Subject: OFF: HW: Hypocrisy [Message 042301 deleted by moderator at the author's request] From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Fri Aug 4 17:41:52 2000 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 14:41:52 -0700 Subject: Hawkwind / Mazda Message-ID: >those wonderful people at EMI... >From everything I've seen over the years, and many of them, it's fairly obvious that EMI stands for Extreme Mental Incapacity or some other very similar phrase. Only rarely do the lights go on in their hallowed halls, other than for the cleaners..... scorch From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Aug 4 17:59:16 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:59:16 +0100 Subject: OFF: HW: Hypocrisy Message-ID: Hey I hope she lives forever! Well - at least as long as I do. I love getting a 25 gun salute from the battlements of Edinburgh Castle on my birthday each year! Rock on lady! jill ----- Original Message ----- From: <> To: Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 6:05 PM Subject: OFF: HW: Hypocrisy [Message 042301 deleted by moderator at the author's request] From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Fri Aug 4 21:22:21 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 21:22:21 EDT Subject: OFF: Motorhead Message-ID: actually, it's another 'best of' (dear god...); but this one is a 2-cd set with four previously unrelesed live songs 'from their blistering '80's shows': shoot you in the back/fire fire/overkill/one more i can't recall. no further details on this live stuff are given on the site. this is an 'official motorhead release', as opposed to the multitudinous rehash/reissue/retitle/repackage crap that flows steadily from various labels in various territorys resulting from the bronze label going south way back when and their selling off the rights to the 'head catalog to any/everyone. awaiting the 2-cd remastered 'no sleep 'til h-smith', bobm From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Sat Aug 5 22:53:56 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 19:53:56 -0700 Subject: HW: SD'2K / Harvey Message-ID: I've got most of these and can make CDR only if not available elsewhere. ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > Was Mamissi > > actually released on CD? These are all on Taste right? > Not as far as I can recall. > Are they still in > > business, at this address? Any website/email? > Try getting hold of Bill Wood at Taste - easier to get hold of Elvis!!!!! > I guess Red Shifts are OOP? > Technically, yeah, although I can imagine Bill's sitting on a stack of stuff > that I want to buy for CDS but he doesn't know and I can't find him and > Cargo don't know where he is either and they're supposed to be his > distributors. > > The others? > > Ditto > > Solo Harvey Bainbridge: > > Interstellar Chaos (1988, CD1993) > > Red Shift (1996) > > w/ Alman Mulo Band: > > Mamissi (1983, CD1993) > > Orisha (1985, CD1993) > > Invisible Warrior (1986, CD1993) > > Afrodiziac (1990, CD1993) > > Diamonds and Toads (1994) > > many others with Hawkwind (1978-90) > > > > Taste, P.O. Box 775, London E5 9DE UK > > > > Thanks in advance... > > Grakkl (FAA) From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Sat Aug 5 14:37:47 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 19:37:47 +0100 Subject: OFF:MOTORHEAD Message-ID: Mot?rhead legend Lemmy appears on the upcoming album from German vocalist Doro Pesch. Lemmy duets with Doro on two songs: a cover of Motorhead's 'Love Me Forever' (which first appeared on the '1916' album) and a new song 'Aloen Aloen'. The album, titled 'Calling The Wild', will be released by Koch in September. http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sat Aug 5 22:55:34 2000 From: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 19:55:34 -0700 Subject: OFF: HW: Hypocrisy Message-ID: [Message 042326 deleted by moderator at the author's request] From BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sat Aug 5 22:57:32 2000 From: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 19:57:32 -0700 Subject: OFF: HW: Hypocrisy Message-ID: [Message 042327 deleted by moderator at the author's request] From BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sat Aug 5 23:05:36 2000 From: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 20:05:36 -0700 Subject: OFF: HW: Hypocrisy Message-ID: [Message 042328 deleted by moderator at the author's request] From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Sat Aug 5 23:06:43 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 20:06:43 -0700 Subject: OFF:MOTORHEAD Message-ID: That should be good, thanks. Zeitgeist wrote: > Mot?rhead > legend Lemmy appears on the upcoming > album from German vocalist Doro Pesch. Lemmy duets with Doro on two > songs: a > cover of Motorhead's 'Love Me Forever' (which first appeared on the > '1916' album) > and a new song 'Aloen Aloen'. The album, titled 'Calling The Wild', > will be > released by Koch in September. > > http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records > Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist > Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK > > "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" > http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Aug 5 13:58:05 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 13:58:05 -0400 Subject: HW: SD'2K / Harvey Message-ID: Andy Gee writes: >> Was Mamissi actually released on CD? These are all on Taste right? > >> Not as far as I can recall. Is that an answer to question One (Mamissi), or question Two (all being on Taste)? From what I read, it looked like Red Shift was planned for EBS, but then was actually released on Taste in '96...is that right? >> Are they still in business, at this address? Any website/email? > > Try getting hold of Bill Wood at Taste - easier to get hold of Elvis!!!!! So, technically, they *are* alive, but no one can actually recall ever reaching them? :) Grakkl (FAA) P.S. The revised Strange Daze lineup is now up on www.strange-trips.com. As previously noted, Harvey will finish up after QS and AP. The Chicago group Solar Confusion will take AP's afternoon spot. And Bionaut has cancelled (but since ArcMet is still playing, I guess that means that Paul E. was not the problem, but rather Chris Green), so Canis Minor will (probably) fill in their spot. From what I've heard, Solar Confusion is a 'new' group that does a kind of Hawkwind-esque performance with dancers and such, and no breaks between songs...very heavy guitars and that sort. But also not all that together and strong musically...I'll reserve judgement until I see them for myself. From BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sat Aug 5 23:15:37 2000 From: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 20:15:37 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: Your message to Sky News] Message-ID: [Message 042331 deleted by moderator at the author's request] From BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sun Aug 6 00:46:08 2000 From: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 21:46:08 -0700 Subject: OFF: HW: Hypocrisy Message-ID: [Message 042332 deleted by moderator at the author's request] From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Aug 5 20:05:08 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2000 20:05:08 EDT Subject: OFF: Message-ID: GOOD evening due to an unfortunate sequence of events, including the theft of my aol password and screen name, serious virus damage, then problems w/both monitor and 'tower' i've been gone from BOC-L and paying 8 bucks an hour in an otherwise nice cafe downtown, in order to be typing this. so in case anyone had wondered..... "<>" From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Sun Aug 6 13:45:52 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 10:45:52 -0700 Subject: Further Codex mysteries solved Message-ID: I thought it was Code X ? M Holmes wrote: > Thanks to whoever pointed out the link between the Hawkfan 12 and > Undisclosed Files versions of Ghost Dance That error is now fixed (and > BTW I still have a CD copy of Undisclosed Files available if anyone is > looking for it). > > I've also sorted out the various versions of Silver Machine on the > Infected.. 12", the Infected... CD, and the two Epoch collections (there > are 4 versions of Silver Machine between them). > > So the Codex and Discography have now been updated. > > FoFP From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Sun Aug 6 04:40:18 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 09:40:18 +0100 Subject: OFF: Roy Harper UK tour Message-ID: Roy Harper UK Autumn Tour 2000 Catch Roy out on tour this autumn, accompanied by Nick on 10 dates in October. September 16th Errigle Inn, Belfast 028 9032 2925 20th The Studio, Hartlepool t.b.c. 21st King Tuts 0141 221 5279 23rd Spilsby Theatre, Spilsby 01790 752936 24th The Adelphi, Preston 01772 897961 25th Telfords Warehouse, Chester 01244 390090 27th Fleece & Firkin, Bristol 0117 927 7150 28th The Arts Centre, Salisbury 01722 321744 October 1st The Brook, Southampton 01703 555366 5th The Zodiac, Oxford 01865 420042 6th The Arts Centre, Swindon 01793 614837 Dates with Nick 14th The Arts Centre, St. Donats 01446 799100 18th The Irish Centre, Birmingham 0121 622 2314 19th Clair Hall, Haywards Heath 01444 455440 20th Wycombe Swan, High Wycombe 01494 512000 21st Dancehouse Theatre, Manchester 0161 237 9753 24th Guildhall, Derby 01332 255800 25th City Varieties, Leeds 0113 243 0808 27th City Hall, Memorial Hall, Sheffield 0114 278 9789 28th The Opera House, Newcastle 0191 232 0899 29th Picture Playhouse, Beverley 01482 867430 November 3rd Royal Court, Liverpool 0151 709 4321 http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Sun Aug 6 05:51:46 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 10:51:46 +0100 Subject: OFF: More Motorhead - what's going on here Message-ID: Saw the promo for "God Save The Queen" last night. BGriefly amusing with the band playing on top of an open top Routemaster round the middle of London by a Queen lookalike. Then it's fake gig time, rounded off by the band being presented to the Queen. So if you ever want to see Lemmy kissing the Queen on the cheek this could be your only chance (assuming the knighthood is still some way off). Stuart NP Body Full Of Stars - Falling Angels http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Aug 6 07:53:22 2000 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 13:53:22 +0200 Subject: OFF: Release date for new Frond CD Message-ID: Brian Halligan schrieb: > >From http://www.rubricrecords.com/ > > >Bevis Frond CD October 3, 2000 > > > >Acid Jam 2 CD September 18, 2000 > > Also, if anyone hasn't been to the Woronzow site lately, they will be > accepting credit cards "soon." Acid Jam 2 is already out and it?s brilliant! 14 tracks, 150 min of jamming space rock incl. an outtake from the "Gulp!" sessions with Simon House. You can get it from Woronzow for 14 pounds. Andreas From hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU Sun Aug 6 13:58:25 2000 From: hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU (hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 12:58:25 -0500 Subject: OFF: Roy Harper In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Speaking of Harper, I saw a new (new to my eyes, anyway) album of his, can't recall the title but the cover was red, the date was 1998 (?). I was wondering how it is? I have only listened to Harper's early 70s stuff, Stormcock etc., and like it a lot. Is this new stuff worth pursuing? Thomas On Sun, 6 Aug 2000, Zeitgeist wrote: > Roy Harper UK Autumn Tour 2000 Catch Roy out on tour this autumn, > accompanied by Nick on 10 dates in October. > September 16th Errigle Inn, Belfast 028 9032 2925 20th The Studio, > Hartlepool t.b.c. 21st King Tuts 0141 221 5279 23rd Spilsby Theatre, > Spilsby 01790 752936 24th The Adelphi, Preston 01772 897961 25th > Telfords Warehouse, Chester 01244 390090 27th Fleece & Firkin, > Bristol 0117 927 7150 28th The Arts Centre, Salisbury 01722 321744 > October 1st The Brook, Southampton 01703 555366 5th The Zodiac, > Oxford 01865 420042 6th The Arts Centre, Swindon 01793 614837 > Dates with Nick > 14th The Arts Centre, St. Donats 01446 799100 18th The Irish Centre, > Birmingham 0121 622 2314 19th Clair Hall, Haywards Heath 01444 455440 > 20th Wycombe Swan, High Wycombe 01494 512000 21st Dancehouse Theatre, > Manchester 0161 237 9753 24th Guildhall, Derby 01332 255800 25th City > Varieties, Leeds 0113 243 0808 27th City Hall, Memorial Hall, > Sheffield 0114 278 9789 28th The Opera House, Newcastle 0191 232 0899 > 29th Picture Playhouse, Beverley 01482 867430 > November 3rd Royal Court, Liverpool 0151 709 4321 > > > > http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records > Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist > Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK > > "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" > http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine > From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Sun Aug 6 22:18:00 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 19:18:00 -0700 Subject: HW: Reunion Message-ID: this just came from overnight sensation (the motorhead discussion list). * The 25th Anniversary show - looks like it is finally coming together. There is a tentative date in October for Brixton Academy. Teh first night will be Lemmy playing with Hawkwind. The second night will be Motorhead performing with lots of special guests. As soon as the dates are confirmed, I will let you all know. Later in the year will tentatively see Motorhead visiting Japan in September and Germany/United Kingdom in November/December. What a killer year to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the loudest band in the world! Have an awesome week! Ace Trump http://www.imotorhead.com ICQ: 6055706 From hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU Sun Aug 6 14:12:06 2000 From: hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU (hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 13:12:06 -0500 Subject: Spacerock basic library In-Reply-To: <398DA450.220AD3E7@netscapeonline.co.uk> Message-ID: I have always been interested in various aspects of spacerock/psychedelia, and have amassed a good collection of material over the years. But I have gotten more interested lately, and want to fill in some gaps. I was wondering if some people would be willing to post a list of what they think are ten or so of the most essential spacerock/psych. recordings, that are less obvious or less well known. I mean, I have Amon Duul, Ash Ra Tempel, Hawkwind, Farflung, Pressurehed, Gong, Porcupine Tree, Spaceman 3, etc. covered. But I'm interested in exploring further. If it helps, my interests extend to (but aren't limited to) the heavy side of things (Kyuss, Natas, etc.) and the ambient/electronic side of things (Autechre, Eno, trip-hop, Oval, System 7, etc. -- though some of this stuff, like System 7, can get too beat repetetive for me) Thanks! Thomas From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Sun Aug 6 22:55:51 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 19:55:51 -0700 Subject: OFF: HW: Motorhead God Save the queen video Message-ID: The new video is here! http://www.metal-is.com/ This is great stuff! From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Sun Aug 6 23:00:25 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 20:00:25 -0700 Subject: OFF: HW: Motorhead God Save the queen video Message-ID: just click on the attachment, good even on 56k! linuxchaos wrote: > The new video is here! > > http://www.metal-is.com/ > > This is great stuff! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: motorhead_100.asx Type: application/x-mplayer2 Size: 288 bytes Desc: not available URL: From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Aug 6 14:11:16 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 14:11:16 -0400 Subject: HW: OFF: Spacerock basic library Message-ID: Thomas asked... >I have always been interested in various aspects of spacerock/psychedelia, >and have amassed a good collection of material over the years. But I have >gotten more interested lately, and want to fill in some gaps. I was >wondering if some people would be willing to post a list of what they >think are ten or so of the most essential spacerock/psych. recordings, >that are less obvious or less well known. I mean, I have Amon Duul, Ash Ra >Tempel, Hawkwind, Farflung, Pressurehed, Gong, Porcupine Tree, Spaceman 3, >etc. covered. But I'm interested in exploring further. If it helps, my >interests extend to (but aren't limited to) the heavy side of things >(Kyuss, Natas, etc.) and the ambient/electronic side of things (Autechre, >Eno, trip-hop, Oval, System 7, etc. -- though some of this stuff, like >System 7, can get too beat repetetive for me) Well, until someone tells me to shut up and quit spouting the same ole' opinions on the same bands over and over....here goes... A couple years' back, I made this list of the 20 'quintessential' spacerock albums, and I have to say that today I'm still pretty happy with it. Perhaps 14 or 15 would make it onto a revised list. And I might replace a couple only with albums by the same artist, like This Timeless Turning by SCM (instead of Return to the Inner Experience), and either Signify or Coma Divine by PTree (in place of TSMS). Some new things I would add would be Korai ?r?m - 1997, an album by Circle (the new one, Andexelt, is a fine choice), and I might decide that Guru Guru's Dance of the Flames (1974) is too good to ignore. And perhaps I would choose something from Texas (your home state?), but it's hard to pick just one. 7% Solution, ST 37, Liquid Sound Company, Linus Pauling Quartet, Mazinga Phaser, etc. Ah, it's hard not to think 'quota-like' when doing this sort of thing. Like should I give a nod to 'stoner rock' and pick Orange Goblin - Time Travelling Blues? Well, you've all heard this before, so I'll be quiet now and wait to see if anyone else dares respond. :) PINK FLOYD (UK) - A SAUCERFUL OF SECRETS (1968) AMON D??L II (GR) - WOLF CITY (1972) NEKTAR (UK/GR) - JOURNEY TO THE CENTRE OF THE EYE (1972) NEU! (GR) - NEU! (1972) AGITATION FREE (GR) - 2ND (1973) FAUST (GR) - IV (Four) (1973) HAWKWIND (UK) - SPACE RITUAL ALIVE dbl (1973) GONG (FR/UK) - YOU (1974) HAWKWIND (UK) - WARRIOR ON THE EDGE OF TIME (1975) CLUSTER (GR) - SOWIESOSO (1976) ELOY (GR) - SILENT CRIES AND MIGHTY ECHOES (1978) HAWKWIND (UK) - LEVITATION (1980) ---dead zone--- LEVITATION (UK) - COTERIE (1991) OZRIC TENTACLES (UK) - STRANGEITUDE (1991) SKY CRIES MARY (US) - A RETURN TO THE INNER EXPERIENCE (1993) THE SPACIOUS MIND (SW) - COSMIC MINDS AT PLAY (1993) DEAD FLOWERS (UK) - ALTERED STATE CIRCUS (1994) PORCUPINE TREE (UK) - THE SKY MOVES SIDEWAYS (1995) DARXTAR (SW) - SJU (Seven) (1996) ALIEN PLANETSCAPES (US) - LIFE ON EARTH (1997) Grakkl (FAA) From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Mon Aug 7 00:04:08 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 21:04:08 -0700 Subject: HW: OFF: Spacerock basic library Message-ID: I think pink floyd is tosh, rest is good. K Henderson wrote: > Thomas asked... > > >I have always been interested in various aspects of spacerock/psychedelia, > >and have amassed a good collection of material over the years. But I have > >gotten more interested lately, and want to fill in some gaps. I was > >wondering if some people would be willing to post a list of what they > >think are ten or so of the most essential spacerock/psych. recordings, > >that are less obvious or less well known. I mean, I have Amon Duul, Ash Ra > >Tempel, Hawkwind, Farflung, Pressurehed, Gong, Porcupine Tree, Spaceman 3, > >etc. covered. But I'm interested in exploring further. If it helps, my > >interests extend to (but aren't limited to) the heavy side of things > >(Kyuss, Natas, etc.) and the ambient/electronic side of things (Autechre, > >Eno, trip-hop, Oval, System 7, etc. -- though some of this stuff, like > >System 7, can get too beat repetetive for me) > > Well, until someone tells me to shut up and quit spouting the same ole' > opinions on the same bands over and over....here goes... > > A couple years' back, I made this list of the 20 'quintessential' spacerock > albums, and I have to say that today I'm still pretty happy with it. > Perhaps 14 or 15 would make it onto a revised list. And I might replace a > couple only with albums by the same artist, like This Timeless Turning by > SCM (instead of Return to the Inner Experience), and either Signify or Coma > Divine by PTree (in place of TSMS). > > Some new things I would add would be Korai ?r?m - 1997, an album by Circle > (the new one, Andexelt, is a fine choice), and I might decide that Guru > Guru's Dance of the Flames (1974) is too good to ignore. And perhaps I > would choose something from Texas (your home state?), but it's hard to pick > just one. 7% Solution, ST 37, Liquid Sound Company, Linus Pauling Quartet, > Mazinga Phaser, etc. Ah, it's hard not to think 'quota-like' when doing > this sort of thing. Like should I give a nod to 'stoner rock' and pick > Orange Goblin - Time Travelling Blues? > > Well, you've all heard this before, so I'll be quiet now and wait to see if > anyone else dares respond. :) > > PINK FLOYD (UK) - A SAUCERFUL OF SECRETS (1968) > AMON D??L II (GR) - WOLF CITY (1972) > NEKTAR (UK/GR) - JOURNEY TO THE CENTRE OF THE EYE (1972) > NEU! (GR) - NEU! (1972) > AGITATION FREE (GR) - 2ND (1973) > FAUST (GR) - IV (Four) (1973) > HAWKWIND (UK) - SPACE RITUAL ALIVE dbl (1973) > GONG (FR/UK) - YOU (1974) > HAWKWIND (UK) - WARRIOR ON THE EDGE OF TIME (1975) > CLUSTER (GR) - SOWIESOSO (1976) > ELOY (GR) - SILENT CRIES AND MIGHTY ECHOES (1978) > HAWKWIND (UK) - LEVITATION (1980) > ---dead zone--- > LEVITATION (UK) - COTERIE (1991) > OZRIC TENTACLES (UK) - STRANGEITUDE (1991) > SKY CRIES MARY (US) - A RETURN TO THE INNER EXPERIENCE (1993) > THE SPACIOUS MIND (SW) - COSMIC MINDS AT PLAY (1993) > DEAD FLOWERS (UK) - ALTERED STATE CIRCUS (1994) > PORCUPINE TREE (UK) - THE SKY MOVES SIDEWAYS (1995) > DARXTAR (SW) - SJU (Seven) (1996) > ALIEN PLANETSCAPES (US) - LIFE ON EARTH (1997) > > Grakkl (FAA) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Aug 6 16:43:47 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 21:43:47 +0100 Subject: HW: OFF: Spacerock basic library In-Reply-To: <200008061916.PAA22557@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Sun, 6 Aug 2000, K Henderson wrote: > A couple years' back, I made this list of the 20 'quintessential' spacerock > albums, and I have to say that today I'm still pretty happy with it. > Perhaps 14 or 15 would make it onto a revised list. And I might replace a > couple only with albums by the same artist, like This Timeless Turning by > SCM (instead of Return to the Inner Experience), and either Signify or Coma > Divine by PTree (in place of TSMS). _Signify_ is pretty good but is it space-rock>? I've always thought of it as dark psych. _Cma Divine_ on the other hand is unquestionably in space but I hardly ever listen to it these days. Possibly I don't get that relaxed at the moment. I do rather like _Lightbulb Sun_ though, which is most definitely space-rock. > Some new things I would add would be Korai ?r?m - 1997, an album by Circle > (the new one, Andexelt, is a fine choice), and I might decide that Guru > Guru's Dance of the Flames (1974) is too good to ignore. And perhaps I > would choose something from Texas (your home state?), but it's hard to pick > just one. 7% Solution, ST 37, Liquid Sound Company, Linus Pauling Quartet, > Mazinga Phaser, etc. Ah, it's hard not to think 'quota-like' when doing > this sort of thing. Like should I give a nod to 'stoner rock' and pick > Orange Goblin - Time Travelling Blues? No - if you're going to nudge stoner, pick _Welcome to Sky Valley_ or _Blues for the Red Sun_ by Kyuss which are very definitely space-headed. The OG album's perfectly good, although I think their first one is more enduring, but they are in no way the cutting edge of the field. That said, they're more fun live than almost anyone, but I saw Gong this weekend and so they've dropped a spot since then :-) > Well, you've all heard this before, so I'll be quiet now and wait to see if > anyone else dares respond. :) > > PINK FLOYD (UK) - A SAUCERFUL OF SECRETS (1968) > AMON D??L II (GR) - WOLF CITY (1972) > NEKTAR (UK/GR) - JOURNEY TO THE CENTRE OF THE EYE (1972) > NEU! (GR) - NEU! (1972) I know I should like it, and I do, kind of, but it wouldn't be the top thing I'd rescue in a fire. But then, I only have the Germanophon CD, so the true fan may have a better record than me. > AGITATION FREE (GR) - 2ND (1973) > FAUST (GR) - IV (Four) (1973) > HAWKWIND (UK) - SPACE RITUAL ALIVE dbl (1973) > GONG (FR/UK) - YOU (1974) > HAWKWIND (UK) - WARRIOR ON THE EDGE OF TIME (1975) > CLUSTER (GR) - SOWIESOSO (1976) > ELOY (GR) - SILENT CRIES AND MIGHTY ECHOES (1978) > HAWKWIND (UK) - LEVITATION (1980) > ---dead zone--- > LEVITATION (UK) - COTERIE (1991) > OZRIC TENTACLES (UK) - STRANGEITUDE (1991) > SKY CRIES MARY (US) - A RETURN TO THE INNER EXPERIENCE (1993) > THE SPACIOUS MIND (SW) - COSMIC MINDS AT PLAY (1993) > DEAD FLOWERS (UK) - ALTERED STATE CIRCUS (1994) > PORCUPINE TREE (UK) - THE SKY MOVES SIDEWAYS (1995) > DARXTAR (SW) - SJU (Seven) (1996) > ALIEN PLANETSCAPES (US) - LIFE ON EARTH (1997) I can't argue with the rest of that, the ones I know are all damn fine, and those I don't are by and large on my to-buy list. What with the number of plugs I've seen them get, I should probably add Korai Orom to it also. I would however ensure that I had my copy of Farflung's _The Belief Module_ over and above all of those except _Space Ritual_.And I think I'd include _Zeit_ by Tangerine Dream too. And I'd probably get caught in the flames trying to decided about Alan Davey's _Captured Rotation_ and Omnia Opera's _Red Shift_ :-) Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | ======================================================================| | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | From hawklord66 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Aug 7 00:19:39 2000 From: hawklord66 at HOTMAIL.COM (Robbo .) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 04:19:39 GMT Subject: OFF: HW: Hypocrisy Message-ID: Happy Birthday Jill !! It's my birthday too!! Robbo. >From: Jill Strobridge >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: OFF: HW: Hypocrisy >Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:59:16 +0100 > >Hey > >I hope she lives forever! Well - at least as long as I do. I love >getting a 25 gun salute from the battlements of Edinburgh Castle on my >birthday each year! > >Rock on lady! >jill > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <> >To: >Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 6:05 PM >Subject: OFF: HW: Hypocrisy > > [Message 042301 deleted by moderator at the author's request] ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From SHLL at NOVO.DK Mon Aug 7 05:33:51 2000 From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 11:33:51 +0200 Subject: OFF:essential space rock Message-ID: Essential Space Rock CDs Spacious Mind- A mind of a Brother (everyone must hear this CD!!) Dead Flowers- Altered State Circus (a classic from a sadly disbanded UK band) Darxtar- Daybreak (Swedish space rock...) Alien Planetscapes. Life on Earth (A must hear for those into INTENSE music) Korai Orom- 1997 (Hungarian ethnic tribal space music) Dark Sun- Feed your Mind (Hawkwind influenced classic space rock..) Mr. Quimby's Beard- The definitive (Excellent floating UK space jams) These are some of the obscure Space rock bands I highly recommend to hear. These are all must own CDs, as far as I am concerned. Ones that I listen to a lot.. Scott this did not include the bands like Hawkwind and Ozric Tentacles.. My interview the the Ozrics will be on line at Aural Innovations in August.. (www.aural-innovations.com) From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Mon Aug 7 05:46:03 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 10:46:03 +0100 Subject: OFF: Roy Harper Message-ID: His last album was "thedreamsociety". Very good, if not quite classic. His 90s output whilst limited was always of the highest quality ("Death Or Glory" being the best). Always worth seeing live. Lots of rants and raves, plus some of the best guitar work you're ever likely to hear. His new album will be called "The Green Mile". He's been working on it with Jeff Martin of the Tea Party. it will be internet only. I'm hoping to be distributing it. Don't miss him live. He was 60 in June and hasn't been well:-( How many more tours will he do. Stuart http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records Distributor of Stone Premonitions and Elastic Fiction Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Mon Aug 7 08:13:57 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 08:13:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: Obi is no more Message-ID: Alec Guiness has passed away. figuring out Nosferatu, Jason From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Mon Aug 7 08:47:31 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 13:47:31 +0100 Subject: HW in Metal Hammer! Message-ID: Flicking through MH on a train journey and there's a stoner special (yes another one). Along with the splendid Monster Magnet news (new album currently being mixed for a September release) they do a guide to stoner bands and there they are getting the five leaf accolade of ultimate stoner influence - HW. Should give the twelve year old Korn fans something to ponder. Who they? I didn't know you got photographs in black and white. That sort of thing. Stuart NP Krom Lek http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records Distributor of Stone Premonitions and Elastic Fiction Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Aug 7 09:00:15 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:00:15 -0400 Subject: OFF: Trans-Lunar Express at SD'2K Message-ID: Hi Folks... Finally got who exactly is Trans-Lunar Express, the unfamiliar name on the SD'2K schedule. I knew they were local and related to Speaker/Cranker (an excellent krautrocky-improv band that I saw open for both Gong and Bevis Frond), but didn't know exactly *how* related. Well, here is the lineup we should expect...looks excellent! Four out of the six Speaker-crankers. And you'll note that Pufftube did a version of Quark, Strangeness, and Charm on Doug's HW tribute album. (Doug, do you know what all Pufftube has released over the years? I also have a single Pufftube track on a Cleveland compilation titled '3,128 seconds over Cleveland' or something.) Grakkl (FAA) Trans-Lunar Express Scott Pickering - Drums (plays in Speaker/Cranker and Pufftube) Keith Pickering - Guitar (plays in Speaker/Cranker and Pufftube) Lee Fioritto - Bass (regular bass player for Trans Lunar Express) Melanie Fioritto - Guitar, Toys, Drums (Trans Lunar Express and Chump) Jim Jones- Keyboards, Guitar (plays in Speaker/Cranker and occasionally in Pere Ubu) Dave Cintron - Keyboards, Tapes, Guitar (plays in Speaker/Cranker, also revamping lineup for his project; Downside Special) Neil Sherhag - Drums (also plays drums in Fuzzhead) This is a freaky jam band that combines the spacey action of early Pink Floyd w/ the drive of Can. All improv and we are happy to be jamming at this show. From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Mon Aug 7 12:21:28 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:21:28 -0400 Subject: BROC/BRAIN: A new richard meltzer interview Message-ID: go to www.furious.com/perfect/meltzer.html a question on BOC in there in pt. 2 and other sundry goodies. Note the similarityy between my first name and the interviewer. Sadly, thats as as far as similiarities go. Also, a Hassan I sabhah quip is in that pot. a whore just like all the rest, Jason From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Aug 7 13:43:48 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 13:43:48 -0400 Subject: OFF: Release date for new Frond CD Message-ID: Andreas wrote: >Acid Jam 2 is already out and it?s brilliant! 14 tracks, 150 min of jamming >space rock incl. an outtake from the "Gulp!" sessions with Simon House. >You can get it from Woronzow for 14 pounds. Please, tell me more! Brian From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 7 14:02:08 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 14:02:08 EDT Subject: Vernon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 7 Aug 00, at 13:43, Brian Halligan wrote: > Andreas wrote: > > >Acid Jam 2 is already out and it?s brilliant! 14 tracks, 150 min of > >jamming space rock incl. an outtake from the "Gulp!" sessions with > >Simon House. You can get it from Woronzow for 14 pounds. > > Please, tell me more! > > Brian Brian, Are you going to Vernon next week? Any idea when BOC's playing? theo From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Aug 7 14:12:01 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 14:12:01 -0400 Subject: Vernon In-Reply-To: <200008071802.OAA00126@syr.edu> Message-ID: Sorry I keep forgetting to write! I probably won't go, just because they'll probably be doing a short set. At a festival gig I went to in Buffalo a few years ago they played 7 tunes with no encore. And once they play the big three, that leaves even less time for anything new or different. If you go though, let me know if I made a mistake. :-) Brian > Brian, > Are you going to Vernon next week? Any idea when BOC's playing? > > theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 7 14:19:28 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 14:19:28 EDT Subject: Vernon In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 7 Aug 00, at 14:12, Brian Halligan wrote: > Sorry I keep forgetting to write! > > I probably won't go, just because they'll probably be doing a short > set. At a festival gig I went to in Buffalo a few years ago they > played 7 tunes with no encore. And once they play the big three, that > leaves even less time for anything new or different. > > If you go though, let me know if I made a mistake. :-) > Brian I'm going for sure. BOC's done this gig 3 times and they usually play about an hour. It looks like they might actually be headlining the show, esp. given the other acts on tap... theo From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Mon Aug 7 15:18:41 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 20:18:41 +0100 Subject: OFF: Faust UK tour dates Message-ID: FAUST Oct 26 - NORTHAMPTON, Roadmenders / Oct 27 - WOLVERHAMPTON, Wulfrun Hall /Oct 28 - MANCHESTER, University / Oct 29 - NEWCASTLE, Whitley Bay Dome /Oct 30 - GLASGOW, The Old Fruitmarket / Oct 31 - LEEDS, Irish Centre / Nov03 - LONDON, Royal Festival Hall Stuart http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records Distributor of Stone Premonitions and Elastic Fiction Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Mon Aug 7 22:21:57 2000 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 21:21:57 -0500 Subject: OFF: www.starcd.com Message-ID: Name that tune: http://www.starcd.com Got hits on Blue Oyster Cult but not on Hawkwind. ;( *CD allows consumers to immediately learn about and buy the music that's playing on the radio--whether its over the airwaves or the internet. HOW WE DO IT *CD uses a patented computer technology to monitor radio broadcasts and identify songs as they air. Before new music is released, a master recording is obtained from the record companies and scanned into the system's computer -- creating a unique digital fingerprint or "pattern" for that song. *CD's computers monitor local radio stations every second of the day, every day of the week -- processing the digitized broadcast and comparing it with thousands and thousands of patterns. Once a song is recognized, the system records the exact time, date, and station on which it played. -- From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Aug 7 23:34:26 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 20:34:26 -0700 Subject: OFF: Trans-Lunar Express at SD'2K Message-ID: Work is HELL as I try to get ready to head off for SD2k, but I had to answer this one ... On Mon, 7 Aug 2000 09:00:15 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >Finally got who exactly is Trans-Lunar Express, the unfamiliar name on the >SD'2K schedule ... Well, here is the lineup we >should expect...looks excellent! HELL YEAH! Jim Jones has been in more FANTASTIC bands than ANYONE who has EVER graced the Strange Daze stage. Serious mind-blowers like Mirrors and the Easter Monkeys, two of the best to ever come out of Cleveland. > Four out of the six Speaker-crankers. And >you'll note that Pufftube did a version of Quark, Strangeness, and Charm on >Doug's HW tribute album. (Doug, do you know what all Pufftube has released >over the years? I also have a single Pufftube track on a Cleveland >compilation titled '3,128 seconds over Cleveland' or something.) Way the hell to little! There were two or three self-released cassettes (I think) that *I* don't even have. The amazing 'Emergency Peanut' double 7" (with a great version of Bob Seeger's "Heavy Music" ... from back when he was good), the "Boys of Summer" 7" (yes, the Don Henley song ... a SERIOUSLY warped version), a track on the 'Gimme Some Santa' Scat Records XMas 7" from way back, maybe another comp track or two. Unfortunately, Scott Pickering (the mad genius behind Puff Tube, who's also played in Gem, Prisonshake, and a few other Cle'/Kent indierock bands) is a difficult cat to nail down. He moved years without leaving a forwarding address, so this will actually be my opportunity to deliver him the copies of the 'Assassins of Silence' CD that I owe him for playing on it! And Neil from Fuzzhead is a great drummer ... this should be an especially fine act ... >Trans-Lunar Express >Scott Pickering - Drums (plays in Speaker/Cranker and Pufftube) >Keith Pickering - Guitar (plays in Speaker/Cranker and Pufftube) >Lee Fioritto - Bass (regular bass player for Trans Lunar Express) >Melanie Fioritto - Guitar, Toys, Drums (Trans Lunar Express and Chump) >Jim Jones- Keyboards, Guitar (plays in Speaker/Cranker and occasionally in >Pere Ubu) >Dave Cintron - Keyboards, Tapes, Guitar (plays in Speaker/Cranker, also >revamping lineup for his project; Downside Special) >Neil Sherhag - Drums (also plays drums in Fuzzhead) -Doug ceres at sirius.com From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Tue Aug 8 05:16:16 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:16:16 +0100 Subject: OFF:essential space rock Message-ID: And don't forget that you get MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD-"THE DEFINITIVE UNSOLVED MYSTERIES from your friendly neighbourhood Zeitgeist distro at http://www.the-rocker.co.uk Shameless plug over and out. Stuart NP Ian McNabb - Live At Life http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records Distributor of Stone Premonitions and Elastic Fiction Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Aug 8 13:09:14 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 13:09:14 -0400 Subject: OFF: University of Errors Message-ID: Hi Folks...Last minute reminder! Grakkl (FAA) 8th August USA: New Haven, CT: Tune Inn http://www.elevatormusic.com/tuneinn.html 9th August USA: New York, NY - Knitting Factory http://knittingfactory.com 10th August USA: Washington DC - Metro Cafe http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/ music/features/metrocafe0511.htm 11th August USA: Nelson, Ohio- Strange Daze Festival http://www.strange-trips.com/ 12th August USA: Chicago, IL.- Schubas http://www.tribads.com/schubas/ 13th August USA: Milwaukee, WS - Shank Hall http://www.shankhall.com/ 15th August USA: Rochester, NY - Bug Jar http://www.bugjar.com/ 16th August USA: Pittsburgh, PA - Millvale Industrial Theater http://www.mit.telerama.com/ 17th August USA: Philadelphia, PA - Khyber Pass 56 S. 2nd Street, 215-440-9683 19th August USA: Hoboken, NJ - Maxwell's http://www.nj.com/maxwells/ From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Aug 8 13:48:36 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 13:48:36 EDT Subject: OFF: New York Message-ID: Hey, folks. I'm in NY now. Still waiting for some replies to my old note from a couple weeks back: which record stores must I visit?? ...or...does anyone wanna get together? I've got a few more days in the city before Strange Daze. Thanks. Chuck From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Aug 8 14:54:38 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 11:54:38 -0700 Subject: OFF: Spacerock basic library Message-ID: On Sun, 6 Aug 2000 14:11:16 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >PINK FLOYD (UK) - A SAUCERFUL OF SECRETS (1968) >AMON D??L II (GR) - WOLF CITY (1972) >NEKTAR (UK/GR) - JOURNEY TO THE CENTRE OF THE EYE (1972) >NEU! (GR) - NEU! (1972) >AGITATION FREE (GR) - 2ND (1973) >FAUST (GR) - IV (Four) (1973) >HAWKWIND (UK) - SPACE RITUAL ALIVE dbl (1973) >GONG (FR/UK) - YOU (1974) >HAWKWIND (UK) - WARRIOR ON THE EDGE OF TIME (1975) >CLUSTER (GR) - SOWIESOSO (1976) >ELOY (GR) - SILENT CRIES AND MIGHTY ECHOES (1978) >HAWKWIND (UK) - LEVITATION (1980) >---dead zone--- I'd add a few in here; the 80s weren't as dead as some folks think, just more buried (although admittedly some of these are peripherally spacerock, they all show at least a strong influence) ... Metal Urbain (France) - any CHROME (US) - 'Half Machine Lip Moves' or '3rd From The Sun' Wipers (US) - 'Youth Of America' Inner City Unit (UK) - 'Presidents Tape' Butthole Surfers (US) - 'Locust Abortion Technician' Viv Akauldren (US) - hmmm ... not sure which one offhand ... F/i (US) - 'Out of Space/Out of Time' (archival CD) Something by Chrome is especially essential IMO - no spacerock library should be missing out on that fantastic band. >LEVITATION (UK) - COTERIE (1991) >OZRIC TENTACLES (UK) - STRANGEITUDE (1991) >SKY CRIES MARY (US) - A RETURN TO THE INNER EXPERIENCE (1993) >THE SPACIOUS MIND (SW) - COSMIC MINDS AT PLAY (1993) >DEAD FLOWERS (UK) - ALTERED STATE CIRCUS (1994) >PORCUPINE TREE (UK) - THE SKY MOVES SIDEWAYS (1995) >DARXTAR (SW) - SJU (Seven) (1996) >ALIEN PLANETSCAPES (US) - LIFE ON EARTH (1997) Great list, overall ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Tue Aug 8 15:36:08 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 15:36:08 -0400 Subject: Harvey Bainbridge 8/6/00 Message-ID: Hello all...Not possible for me to recount anything at this moment, as I am still recuperating...However here are a few shots which were sent to me courtesy of Joanne Grabiec (Kitteighjo at webtv.net).. Thank You to everyone who came out and supported "The Traveling Outerspace Spectacular" in Philadelphia and New York.. Once I get myself together enough to write some sort of proper summary I will, right now I just need quiet... Peace, MIke (Sloterdijk) http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Kitteigh-Jo at webtv.net Subject: pic Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 20:04:22 -0400 (EDT) Size: 29234 URL: From denis at D-RIDER.DE Tue Aug 8 16:43:33 2000 From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 22:43:33 +0200 Subject: HW: Chaos Live CD Message-ID: Hi all, in news:alt.music.planet-gong Nick Medford wrote: >Re. the 'Chaos' album- I saw it in the CD section of Borders bookshop in >London recently. The cover art is exactly the same as the video of the same >name. I wonder if this means that it IS an official release then? Does anyone know of this one? I never heard of a Chaos-Live-Album from the '86-tour before and I also couldn't find it in Andy Dawson's discography. I'm sure it's not an official release, but what is it? very interested and hoping for help D+R From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Aug 8 17:09:13 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 22:09:13 +0100 Subject: OFF: the future of the rock industry (Was: A new richard meltzer interview) In-Reply-To: <200008071621.MAA00933@mailgate.wizvax.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > go to www.furious.com/perfect/meltzer.html Following up his stuff on the music business and that Courtney Love article a little while back, it occurs to me that the rock industry per se is about forty years old now and awareness is becoming pretty general that the major labels have all the punches in it. And it further occurs to me that when the movie business was a not dissimilar age, and of a similar corporate voraciousness, a bunch of actors got together and formed Equity. And I wondered if that could work in the music business - a kind of musicians' collective, something large enough to have market clout and work for the musicians. There aren't any labels of any size run by artists, are there? Could there be, and would they meet any success? Discuss :-) Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | ======================================================================| | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 8 17:36:55 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 17:36:55 EDT Subject: OFF: the future of the rock industry (Was: A new richard meltzer interview) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8 Aug 00, at 22:09, Jon Jarrett wrote: > On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > > > go to www.furious.com/perfect/meltzer.html > > Following up his stuff on the music business and that Courtney > Love article a little while back, it occurs to me that the rock > industry per se is about forty years old now and awareness is becoming > pretty general that the major labels have all the punches in it. And > it further occurs to me that when the movie business was a not > dissimilar age, and of a similar corporate voraciousness, a bunch of > actors got together and formed Equity. And I wondered if that could > work in the music business - a kind of musicians' collective, > something large enough to have market clout and work for the > musicians. There aren't any labels of any size run by artists, are > there? Could there be, and would they meet any success? > Howls! I'm an ex-member of the musician's union. Unfortunately they only lobby for musicians on a per-gig basis. Thing is, musicians are actually dumb enough to sign those awful major label contracts without [apparently] reading them. The union is more concerned with live gigs, though they do set the rates for studio musicians. In fact, to borrow your analogy, all movie music is union made [at least in the US]... theo From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Aug 8 17:45:33 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 22:45:33 +0100 Subject: OFF: the future of the rock industry (Was: A new richard meltzer interview) In-Reply-To: <200008082137.RAA11183@syr.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Ted Jackson jr. wrote: > Howls! I'm an ex-member of the musician's union. Unfortunately > they only lobby for musicians on a per-gig basis. Thing is, > musicians are actually dumb enough to sign those awful major label > contracts without [apparently] reading them. The union is more > concerned with live gigs, though they do set the rates for studio > musicians. In fact, to borrow your analogy, all movie music is union > made [at least in the US]... Okay, perhaps Equity isn't the ideal template for what I meant, except in as far as it was a collaboration of the exploited. I mean, there are lots of bands with their own labels, there are even some small labels who do the best they can by their musicians (hi Andy) - is it perhaps the way forward for an association of musicians to take over the actual output mechanism? To pick up your point, what if the union formed a label? Could it make it? Would it have enough clout? Or has the Internet made the whole argument redundant in any case? Such are the thoughts in my mind as I try to put off drafting the rest of a conference paper until tomorrow :-) Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | ======================================================================| | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | From flossbac at NLCI.COM Tue Aug 8 18:15:00 2000 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 17:15:00 -0500 Subject: OFF: the future of the rock industry (Was: A new richard meltzer interview) Message-ID: > On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > > > go to www.furious.com/perfect/meltzer.html > > Following up his stuff on the music business and that Courtney > Love article a little while back, it occurs to me that the rock industry > per se is about forty years old now and awareness is becoming pretty > general that the major labels have all the punches in it. And it further > occurs to me that when the movie business was a not dissimilar age, and of > a similar corporate voraciousness, a bunch of actors got together > and formed Equity. And I wondered if that could work in the music business > - a kind of musicians' collective, something large enough to have market > clout and work for the musicians. There aren't any labels of any size run > by artists, are there? Could there be, and would they meet any success? > > Discuss :-) Yours, > Jon There are several labels run by artists that have done well. Fugazi has Dischord Records, which is a fine label. Fugazi do quite all right for themselves, and are certainly among the biggest "non-mainstream" acts in the world, and all this while never charging more than $5 per person for a show. There is also Merge records run by Mac from Superchunk. This label and band are also making a living quite well without any outside interference from the evils of corporate america. I'm sure there are many many others, but those are two that I know particularly well. John Majka From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 8 18:17:39 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 18:17:39 EDT Subject: OFF: the future of the rock industry (Was: A new richard meltzer interview) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 8 Aug 00, at 22:45, Jon Jarrett wrote: > Okay, perhaps Equity isn't the ideal template for what I > meant, > except in as far as it was a collaboration of the exploited. I mean, > there are lots of bands with their own labels, there are even some > small labels who do the best they can by their musicians (hi Andy) - > is it perhaps the way forward for an association of musicians to take > over the actual output mechanism? To pick up your point, what if the > union formed a label? Could it make it? Well, I guess if Metallica and Pearl Jam were in the union, it would be a howling success! Really, the idea was tried by Zeppelin, right, with their Swan Song label, which later signed Bad Company? Of course Pagey was an astute observer of the music biz from years as a session guitarist. It's amazing that more bands haven't tried it. I guess to make a run at your own label, you'd need to be rich enough where having your own label wasn't so important? theo Would it have enough clout? Or > has the Internet made the whole argument redundant in any case? I think the internet self-production will gain a lot of momentum, coupled with advances in recording technology. About time the major labels get what's coming... Such > are the thoughts in my mind as I try to put off drafting the rest of a > conference paper until tomorrow :-) '...never put off until tomorrow what you can put off today...' theo From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Aug 8 18:54:41 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 23:54:41 +0100 Subject: Spacerock basic library Message-ID: 10 groups or artists whose music you really want to check out, and with not a poor release between them: Quarkspace Spacehead/Krel (but then I would say that as they're on my label) Banco De Gaia Melting Euphoria Spiral Realms Rapoon Orange Goblin Tribe Of Cro Ambient Temple Of Imaginantion Escapade Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 7:12 PM Subject: Spacerock basic library > I have always been interested in various aspects of spacerock/psychedelia, > and have amassed a good collection of material over the years. But I have > gotten more interested lately, and want to fill in some gaps. I was > wondering if some people would be willing to post a list of what they > think are ten or so of the most essential spacerock/psych. recordings, > that are less obvious or less well known. I mean, I have Amon Duul, Ash Ra > Tempel, Hawkwind, Farflung, Pressurehed, Gong, Porcupine Tree, Spaceman 3, > etc. covered. But I'm interested in exploring further. If it helps, my > interests extend to (but aren't limited to) the heavy side of things > (Kyuss, Natas, etc.) and the ambient/electronic side of things (Autechre, > Eno, trip-hop, Oval, System 7, etc. -- though some of this stuff, like > System 7, can get too beat repetetive for me) > > Thanks! > Thomas From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Aug 8 19:11:13 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 00:11:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Agents of Chaos Message-ID: Everything will be rereleased eventually when it comes to Hawkwind - just have patience. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "linuxchaos" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 6:40 AM Subject: Re: HW: Agents of Chaos > Do you think it will ever be realeased? > > > > Hmmmm.....if I remember rightly, the CD that came out called 'Agents Of > > Chaos' consisted of two albums on one CD but without all the tracks intact, > > so technically, the 'Agents' CD as an original in its own right still > > doesn't exist. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Aug 8 19:37:08 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 00:37:08 +0100 Subject: Judge Trev lift Big G G Message-ID: Message to Trev Thoms from Andy G at CD Services -could you please e.mail me at agcdser at aol.com Thanks alot, Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "trevor thoms" To: Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 3:13 PM Subject: Judge Trev lift Big G G > Hi there, > > My transport to the Big Green Gathering has vanished... > > Can anyone give me a lift there on monday or tuesday... > > I am in Brighton, might be able to get to London... > > I have several tickets + vehicle pass to offer... > > Wednesday might do at a pinch... > > Help! > > > > Love, Trev (Judge) I C U > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Aug 8 19:41:18 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 00:41:18 +0100 Subject: OFF:essential space rock Message-ID: OK while we are all at it, don't forget MQB CD also available and in stock now from CD Services (agcdser at aol,com). One for all - all for one!!!!! What are the rules here? Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zeitgeist" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 10:16 AM Subject: OFF:essential space rock > And don't forget that you get MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD-"THE DEFINITIVE > UNSOLVED MYSTERIES from your friendly neighbourhood Zeitgeist distro > at http://www.the-rocker.co.uk > > Shameless plug over and out. > > Stuart > NP Ian McNabb - Live At Life > > > > http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records > Distributor of Stone Premonitions and Elastic Fiction > Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist > Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK > > "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" > http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Aug 8 18:34:32 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 18:34:32 -0400 Subject: OFF: the future of the rock industry Message-ID: John said... >> There aren't any labels of any size run >> by artists, are there? Could there be, and would they meet any success? >> >There are several labels run by artists that have done well. Fugazi has >Dischord Records, which is a fine label. The one that comes to my mind is Projekt, the darkwave (i.e., 'ambient-goth') label run by the guy from Black Tape for a Blue Girl (I think). But I don't know if that's even a touring group so much (if at all - it could be just him, and perhaps one other person?), so perhaps that's why he's got the time to have his own label. Most of the other labels of that sort, major-indie-niche labels like Cleo, Man's Ruin (and perhaps Meteor City if that continues to grow), Darla, Sonic Unyon, Parasol, World Domination (momentarily 'bought' out by WB, then subsequently 'let go')...they seem to be run by entreprenurial folks who started out in mail order/distro. Or at least that's my perception. (BTW, is Frank Kozik a musician?) As I've stated before (and others seem to have thought also), some of these other 'niches' seem to be a lot more 'with it' than the space-rockers. Stoner rock, Post-rock, Darkwave, you name it. I guess maybe they're perceived (or the bands perceive themselves?) as more modern and hip - and/or are simply younger people with more energy. So I can go into a store in Columbus and easily find Man's Ruin, or The Music Cartel (now what is that exactly? From the sounds of the name, it almost sounds like a stoner version of what is being discussed here. I thought it was a US 'label' that was created mainly to release/distribute European stoner/doom rock over here, like Rise Above...is that right?), and I almost never see a 'real' new Hawkwind album or anything (Thrilling Adventures never showed up here). Snapper does pretty well, as I could find all the Ozrics, Gong and PT new releases. But forget EBS or anything else remotely unusual. I think I remember Paul W. (Quarkspace) saying something about whether there should be a 'consortium' label to release all of the SD-type spacers, ArcMet, FF, AP, QS, BtG, etc., and the consensus was that everybody has a 'real' job, so who would do it? Gets back to that 'younger people with more energy' idea, or more likely, no family and/or mortgage. Steve Hayes was just telling me (I hope it's ok to relate this info) that none of the SD bands of years' past (save HW) have been particularly interested in the high-quality multitrack recordings he's made from '98 and '99. So I guess the bands' just don't see any interest in getting whatever-label-that-isn't- already-ignoring-their-studio-stuff to put it out. And some bands (like BtG) don't even have a real release of any kind. Anyway, the result is that he's not going to do any recording of SD'2K. Almost makes me wonder if there should be a 'boc-l CD-R label' that self-produces/distributes product and kickbacks (kicks back?) something to the artists somehow. No, I'm not volunteering. :) Bob L./Kevin S. kinda did this on their own with Bob's tapes (?), and I'd imagine that we would have more success obtaining the music we wanted if we got it ourselves (this way), rather than waiting for the bands to find go-betweens to get it to us. No offense, Andy. We know you try! :) (We need Dead Earnest US). Alright, I hafta go back into the lab now....continue please, this is an interesting discussion (finally!). Grakkl (FAA) ObCD: Uzgin Uver - S/T (Hungary has it together!) :) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Aug 8 18:39:59 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 18:39:59 -0400 Subject: OFF:essential space rock Message-ID: AG said... >OK while we are all at it, don't forget MQB CD also available and in stock >now from CD Services (agcdser at aol,com). Ha! Those at SD'2K can get it from Jerry. He'll be the one sitting next to me. :) >One for all - all for one!!!!! What are the rules here? Brittania, Waive the Rules. Grakkl (FAA) From boydan at UKBEARS.EZESURF.CO.UK Tue Aug 8 19:53:53 2000 From: boydan at UKBEARS.EZESURF.CO.UK (danny) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 00:53:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: Roy Harper Message-ID: anyone on here interested in swapping live tapes of rh...i`m,looking for anything i don't have, also interested in boc tapes and particularly vids from any period and early hawks stuff. From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Aug 8 20:16:05 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 17:16:05 -0700 Subject: OFF: the future of the rock industry Message-ID: On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 17:15:00 -0500, flossbac wrote: >There are several labels run by artists that have done well. Fugazi has >Dischord Records, which is a fine label. Fugazi do quite all right for >themselves, and are certainly among the biggest "non-mainstream" acts in the >world, and all this while never charging more than $5 per person for a show. They're one of the more successful ones. Probably the most lucrative artist-owned label these days is Ani DiFranco's; she also charges considerably more than $5 per show! On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 18:17:39 EDT, "Ted Jackson jr." wrote: >Really, the idea was tried by Zeppelin, right, >with their Swan Song label, which later signed Bad Company? And, god bless 'em, the Pretty Things! (and Rockpile) >Of course Pagey was an astute observer of the music biz from years as >a session guitarist. The success of Swan Song (and financial success of 'Zep, for that matter) owes far more to the late Peter Grant than anyone else. He was a SHARP businessman (with just enough thug in him to deal with sleazy promoters/labels/etc.) and one of the few people who could get away with roughing up Bill Graham (YESSSSS!) if he had to. But I'm sure Page's & JP Jones' experience as session men (seeing lots of one-hit-wonders who never made any cash off their brief success and such) clued them into the fact that they'd better have good management if they wanted to go anywhere ... >It's amazing that more bands haven't tried it. When you look at the examples, it's not that amazing; most were failures, despite the sucesses of the bands that set them up: Beatles - Apple Beach Boys - Brother Moody Blues - Threshold Grateful Dead - G.D./Round Elton John - Rocket (despite Kiki Dee) Who - Track (admittedly owned by their management) All now defunct. Most musicians aren't very good businessmen. Not even all their managers are! On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 18:34:32 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >(BTW, is Frank Kozik a musician?) Nope. Rock Poster artist. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Aug 8 20:41:15 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 20:41:15 EDT Subject: OFF: the future of the rock industry Message-ID: In a message dated 8/8/00 8:23:08 PM, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: << There are several labels run by artists that have done well. >> ===== surprised that there's been no menton of the original "United Artists", begun by some hollywood acting folk [garland? sinatra? etc?] long ago. don't know the story well enough to try to tell it. and not coincidentally [?] 'home' of many lps by HW/ Can/ADII and such in the early '70s, though i believe UA was far from its origins by then. ==== EPILOGUE TO SATURDAY'S POST: those nasty AOL password thieves got nailed. my monitor and tower are properly functional again BUT the virus hasnt gone away -_- and total disk erasure beckons in imminence just waiting to see if some new norton virus software could make any dfference. but let me sincerely thank everyone for the cards and letters of support during this unfortunate and perhaps terminal crisis. "<>" From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Aug 8 22:14:00 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 22:14:00 -0400 Subject: OFF: the essential future Message-ID: Speaking of whom.... >Steve Hayes was just telling me... While I'm quoting him, Steve also suggested these titles as 'essential space rock' albums. (He monitors the list, in case you were wondering.) Kingston Wall 3...yeah! Although 'space rock' is only part of that album. Still... >Arthur Brown Kingdom Come The Journey >Planet Gong Floating Anarchy '77 >Here and Now Give and Take >Kingston Wall 3 tri-logy >Omnia Opera Both CDs >Steve Hillage Green (or fish rising) Now back to your regularly scheduled program (or programme if you prefer)... Grakkl (FAA) From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Wed Aug 9 07:31:26 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 04:31:26 -0700 Subject: HW: Chaos Live CD Message-ID: Have you seen this? http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/Hawkwind/Caution/ Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > Hi all, > > in news:alt.music.planet-gong Nick Medford wrote: > > >Re. the 'Chaos' album- I saw it in the CD section of Borders bookshop in > >London recently. The cover art is exactly the same as the video of the same > >name. I wonder if this means that it IS an official release then? > > Does anyone know of this one? I never heard of a Chaos-Live-Album from the > '86-tour before and I also couldn't find it in Andy Dawson's discography. > I'm sure it's not an official release, but what is it? > > very interested and hoping for help > > D+R From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Wed Aug 9 07:33:50 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 04:33:50 -0700 Subject: HW: Chaos Live CD Message-ID: I used to find some old stuff in Borders, Tottenham Ct. Rd. & Oxford St. but they stopped stocking it. Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > Hi all, > > in news:alt.music.planet-gong Nick Medford wrote: > > >Re. the 'Chaos' album- I saw it in the CD section of Borders bookshop in > >London recently. The cover art is exactly the same as the video of the same > >name. I wonder if this means that it IS an official release then? > > Does anyone know of this one? I never heard of a Chaos-Live-Album from the > '86-tour before and I also couldn't find it in Andy Dawson's discography. > I'm sure it's not an official release, but what is it? > > very interested and hoping for help > > D+R From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Aug 9 05:40:31 2000 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 17:40:31 +0800 Subject: HW: Chaos Live CD Message-ID: Yes haha Good cover though Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: linuxchaos To: Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 7:31 PM Subject: Re: HW: Chaos Live CD > Have you seen this? > > > http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/Hawkwind/Caution/ > > > > > > Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > in news:alt.music.planet-gong Nick Medford wrote: > > > > >Re. the 'Chaos' album- I saw it in the CD section of Borders bookshop in > > >London recently. The cover art is exactly the same as the video of the same > > >name. I wonder if this means that it IS an official release then? > > > > Does anyone know of this one? I never heard of a Chaos-Live-Album from the > > '86-tour before and I also couldn't find it in Andy Dawson's discography. > > I'm sure it's not an official release, but what is it? > > > > very interested and hoping for help > > > > D+R > From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Wed Aug 9 06:10:59 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 11:10:59 +0100 Subject: OFF:What are the rules. Was: essential space rock Message-ID: Well my theory was it's OK if it is relevant to the subject matter. I don't send massive amounts of spam relating to the thousands of competitively priced bargains available from Zeitgeist Distro at http://www.the-rocker.co.uk Check our weekly update list fro previously loved bargains. Distributing all Stone Premonition releases worldwide:-) But seriously, I'm happy to read relevant messages from Andy if it makes my collecting habit easier to sate, and I would hope others feel the same about people like us. However, I'll shut up if the majority feel otherwise inclined. Stuart NP: Census of Hallucinations (available from http://www.the-rocker.co.uk ) LOL Subject: Re: OFF:essential space rock OK while we are all at it, don't forget MQB CD also available and in stock now from CD Services (agcdser at aol,com). One for all - all for one!!!!! What are the rules here? Andy G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zeitgeist" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 10:16 AM Subject: OFF:essential space rock > And don't forget that you get MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD-"THE DEFINITIVE > UNSOLVED MYSTERIES from your friendly neighbourhood Zeitgeist distro > at http://www.the-rocker.co.uk http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records Distributor of Stone Premonitions and Elastic Fiction Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Aug 9 08:59:01 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 08:59:01 -0400 Subject: OFF: the future of the rock industry Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: > When you look at the examples, it's not that amazing; most were failures, > despite the sucesses of the bands that set them up: > Beatles - Apple > Beach Boys - Brother > Moody Blues - Threshold > Grateful Dead - G.D./Round > Elton John - Rocket (despite Kiki Dee) > Who - Track (admittedly owned by their management) But Track put out Jimi Hendrix's albums (at least in the UK), which were known to sell a few copies in their day. According to its WWW page, the label has been resurrected! Also, didn't Zappa and his manager, Herb Cohen, found the Disk/Reet label that put out early Beefheart and Alice Cooper albums (as well as Zappa)? Cheers, Paul. NP: Allman Brothers Band, Virginia Beach, 6/16/2000 -- e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Aug 9 09:18:32 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 09:18:32 EDT Subject: OFF: the future of the rock industry Message-ID: In a message dated 8/9/00 9:09:50 AM, paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU writes: << Also, didn't Zappa and his manager, Herb Cohen, found the DiscReet label that put out early Beefheart and Alice Cooper albums (as well as Zappa)? >> ==== that would have been "bizarre/straght"labels; i believe mr.nugent was on discreet, among [not many] others... "<>" From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 9 09:21:49 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 09:21:49 EDT Subject: OFF: the future of the rock industry In-Reply-To: <39915595.F02C5C5A@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: On 9 Aug 00, at 8:59, Paul Mather wrote: > > NP: Allman Brothers Band, Virginia Beach, 6/16/2000 Hey, Paul, Is this with Jimmy Herring on guitar? How is it? theo From tclark at PETRONET.NET Wed Aug 9 10:15:04 2000 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 09:15:04 -0500 Subject: OFF: the future of the rock industry Message-ID: Speaking of Zappa, anyone know where to find Wildman Fischer CD's? (This deranged street poet recorded under Zappa's Bizarre label years ago.) DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 8/9/00 9:09:50 AM, paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU writes: > > << > Also, didn't Zappa and his manager, Herb Cohen, found the DiscReet > label that put out early Beefheart and Alice Cooper albums (as well as > Zappa)? > >> > ==== > that would have been "bizarre/straght"labels; > i believe mr.nugent was on discreet, among [not many] others... > > "<>" From novadrive at HOME.COM Wed Aug 9 10:56:53 2000 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:56:53 -0700 Subject: OFF: the future of the rock industry Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 3:34 PM Subject: Re: OFF: the future of the rock industry > ...Almost makes me wonder if > there should be a 'boc-l CD-R label' that self-produces/distributes product > and kickbacks (kicks back?) something to the artists somehow. No, I'm not > volunteering. :) Bob L./Kevin S. kinda did this on their own with Bob's > tapes (?),.... For completeists or trivia nuts out there, the Time & Space #7 CD-R of SD98 tracks were all taken from my own MiniDisc recordings, except those by F/i (a cassette supplied by the band), Alien Planetscapes (a CD-R supplied by the band, don't know if it was from Steve Hayes' recording), and Born to Go (Bob's videotape). Kevin Sommers From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Wed Aug 9 14:02:27 2000 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:02:27 +0200 Subject: OFF: Release date for new Frond CD Message-ID: > >Acid Jam 2 is already out and it?s brilliant! 14 tracks, 150 min of jamming > >space rock incl. an outtake from the "Gulp!" sessions with Simon House. > >You can get it from Woronzow for 14 pounds. > > Please, tell me more! It?s a live in a studio recording by the Bevis Frond live band, + lots of special guests as Bari Watts, Ric Gunther, Debbie Saloman, Tony Hill of High Tide, all the Alchemysts people and a few more. It?s a real freak out party with songs ranging from 2:46 to 29:45. There is even a 16 min HW sound-alike called "Deep Space Divers". website: www.woronzow.co.uk e-mail: info at woronzow.co.uk. or write to: Woronzow Records, 75 Melville Rd, Walthamstow, London, E17 6QT, UK Andreas From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 9 16:36:45 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 21:36:45 +0100 Subject: OFF:What are the rules. Was: essential space rock Message-ID: Hey man - don't mean to rain on your parade - my honest opinion is that I know it's a tough old world out here in retail land and that we shouldn't ride on the backs of discussion groups like this because things can get so easily out of hand. But, as long as people like us (and |Freak Emporium to be fair) exist, then the giuys and gals on the discussion group will find their buying life a whole lot simpler and easier, even if they hear info and don't necessarily buy it from us (a hazard of being spot on, I guess). I believe that, while the business does make money, that it is also doing a service to people who want the info and the goods, and that providing you don't overdo things, it should be OK to recommend things AND the source providing we're fair to each other in the process. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zeitgeist" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 11:10 AM Subject: OFF:What are the rules. Was: essential space rock > Well my theory was it's OK if it is relevant to the subject matter. > I don't send massive amounts of spam relating to the thousands of > competitively priced bargains available from Zeitgeist Distro at > http://www.the-rocker.co.uk Check our weekly update list fro > previously loved bargains. Distributing all Stone Premonition > releases worldwide:-) > > But seriously, I'm happy to read relevant messages from Andy if it > makes my collecting habit easier to sate, and I would hope others > feel the same about people like us. > > However, I'll shut up if the majority feel otherwise inclined. > > Stuart > NP: Census of Hallucinations (available from > http://www.the-rocker.co.uk ) LOL > > Subject: Re: OFF:essential space rock > > OK while we are all at it, don't forget MQB CD also available and in > stock > now from CD Services (agcdser at aol,com). > One for all - all for one!!!!! What are the rules here? > Andy G. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Zeitgeist" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 10:16 AM > Subject: OFF:essential space rock > > > > And don't forget that you get MR. QUIMBY'S BEARD-"THE DEFINITIVE > > UNSOLVED MYSTERIES from your friendly neighbourhood Zeitgeist > distro > > at http://www.the-rocker.co.uk > > > > > http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records > Distributor of Stone Premonitions and Elastic Fiction > Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist > Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK > > "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" > http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Aug 9 17:49:36 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 22:49:36 +0100 Subject: OFF: the future of the rock industry In-Reply-To: <200008082339.TAA18891@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, K Henderson wrote: > Most of the other labels of that sort, major-indie-niche labels like Cleo, > Man's Ruin (and perhaps Meteor City if that continues to grow), Darla, Sonic > Unyon, Parasol, World Domination (momentarily 'bought' out by WB, then > subsequently 'let go')...they seem to be run by entreprenurial folks who > started out in mail order/distro. Or at least that's my perception. Certainly that's where Meteor City came from, Jadd and Aaron ran a mail order, and indeed that's how Delerium and Dead Earnest started over here, and whatever Cranium's label in New Zealand is called likewise. But they're still small fish really. Delerium has a very patchy shop distribution, the others are all pretty much mail order only. Now of course, that means we can find the stuff when it comes out, but meanwhile they're all, with the exception possibly of Man's Ruin and Meteorcity who keep up a prolific release rate (and in the case of Meteocity are actually ahead of the game enough to sell MP3s, I think the first label of any size to do this) sitting on a lot of product they don't have the money to release. Which in the end stifles the field. It's a stifling it can and has to survive, but it would be marvellous to see someone put the energy into, and get the return out of, the space-rock scene, that Jadd and Aaron do with the stoner one. But where's the money to come from? It doesn't sell as well. Of course, why the two scenes fail to intermix so dramatically, especially given the sharing of so many basic influences among the musicians, notably HW, is still something I don't understand. Partly it's the labels, though. The two stoner ones were started by people who were fanatic about both their scene and the Internet. The space and psych labels always seem to me to be kind of reluctant to tap the internet, which is odd given their inspirations. Woronzow is the only label on that sort of scene that seems to really `keep in touch'. I don't have to go looking for Woronzow info because it's always coming. Finding out about the actual state of Delerium releases, for example, is bloody difficult. If you want to know you have to mail them. They do all their publicity through the mail order catalogues and it's not really clever enough. For example, last thing they had to say about DarXtar's _Tombola_ or whatever it will finally be called was that it was coming out this June and so far it's mentioned on the website, dateless, once. So they shouldn't have said... They also fail to mention the On Trial album on Burnt Hippie, and the news page hasn't been updated since June 26th. I've no doubt Richard Allen is very busy, but I'd like to be able to see some sign of it. And as for EBS - well, I guess we'll never know what happened there. Where are this scene's Jadd and Aaron? Are they in fact Nick Saloman and Ade Shaw? > (BTW, is Frank Kozik a musician?) Journalist, novelist, poet and artist only I believe, though I think one or other of the MR bands talked him into strumming an acoustci somewhere. > As I've stated before (and others seem to have thought also), some of these > other 'niches' seem to be a lot more 'with it' than the space-rockers. > Stoner rock, Post-rock, Darkwave, you name it. I guess maybe they're > perceived (or the bands perceive themselves?) as more modern and hip - > and/or are simply younger people with more energy. > > So I can go into a store in Columbus and easily find Man's Ruin, or The > Music Cartel (now what is that exactly? From the sounds of the name, it > almost sounds like a stoner version of what is being discussed here. I > thought it was a US 'label' that was created mainly to release/distribute > European stoner/doom rock over here, like Rise Above...is that right?), and > I almost never see a 'real' new Hawkwind album or anything (Thrilling > Adventures never showed up here). Snapper does pretty well, as I could find > all the Ozrics, Gong and PT new releases. But forget EBS or anything else > remotely unusual. Yeah, well finding EBS stuff over here is none too easy either. Snapper on the other hand have got the distribution and the product angles down pat, but not the publicity or the band relations angles. My point is we've got lots of these little labels, including a good few run by musicians (Rise Above, EBS as was, Woronzow, Eternity's Jest (I think?)) - and none of them can do very much. But if they worked together on things like distribution, sponsorship, advertising, etc., they might be able to break into rather bigger time by consolidating their market impact. > I think I remember Paul W. (Quarkspace) saying something about whether there > should be a 'consortium' label to release all of the SD-type spacers, > ArcMet, FF, AP, QS, BtG, etc., and the consensus was that everybody has a > 'real' job, so who would do it? Gets back to that 'younger people with more > energy' idea, or more likely, no family and/or mortgage. Isn't EJ that sort of thing? It seems to be trying. > Steve Hayes was just telling me (I hope it's ok to relate this info) that > none of the SD bands of years' past (save HW) have been particularly > interested in the high-quality multitrack recordings he's made from '98 and > '99. So I guess the bands' just don't see any interest in getting > whatever-label-that-isn't- > already-ignoring-their-studio-stuff to put it out. And some bands (like > BtG) don't even have a real release of any kind. Anyway, the result is that > he's not going to do any recording of SD'2K. Almost makes me wonder if > there should be a 'boc-l CD-R label' that self-produces/distributes product > and kickbacks (kicks back?) something to the artists somehow. No, I'm not > volunteering. :) Bob L./Kevin S. kinda did this on their own with Bob's > tapes (?), and I'd imagine that we would have more success obtaining the > music we wanted if we got it ourselves (this way), rather than waiting for > the bands to find go-betweens to get it to us. No offense, Andy. We know > you try! :) (We need Dead Earnest US). Now, that sucks. Apart from that the only way for Jim to make any real money back is by flogging recordings, it seems to me symptomatic of this reluctance across the field to put out any goddamn product. Okay, so the market is disappointingly slow and space-rock will never make anyone rock stars again. But it is _there_ and this refusal to approach the market is killing it. It may not be much fun to try and find the time and money to get a record out, or the support, but it's very trying to have so many bands in this halfway house where they have recordings but never get round to releasing them, or just won't record, and would still like a fanbase. I can't help feeling that either you shouldn't court the public at all, or you should accept that you've got to give them something to make it worth their while. But then, I've never been in a band. I tell you this, though, if I ever do get anything recorded, I shan't be making only 50 CD-Rs. You see my point. Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | ======================================================================| | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | From boydan at UKBEARS.EZESURF.CO.UK Wed Aug 9 21:10:30 2000 From: boydan at UKBEARS.EZESURF.CO.UK (danny) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 02:10:30 +0100 Subject: off: roy harper Message-ID: oops sorry forgot to stick in the url for my tapelist http://come.to/ukbears From cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK Thu Aug 10 03:38:08 2000 From: cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 08:38:08 +0100 Subject: FW: OFF: the future of the rock industry Message-ID: The obvious current example here is Discipline, with the background of Fripp wresting control of the Crimso back catalogue back from "big biz", and providing an "ethical" platform for associated and like-minded artist(e)s to publish/distribute their material without signing away their copyrights etc. (and cf. the prior comments re. Zep/SwanSong/Page, John Paul Jones put out his latest through Discipline). Could be a good template for anybody else trying to do the same things. Cheers ChrisW P.S. Apologies if this arrives twice... mail-server problems! -----Original Message----- From: DASLUD at AOL.COM [mailto:DASLUD at AOL.COM] Sent: 09 August 2000 01:41 Subject: Re: OFF: the future of the rock industry In a message dated 8/8/00 8:23:08 PM, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: << There are several labels run by artists that have done well. >> ===== surprised that there's been no menton of the original "United Artists", begun by some hollywood acting folk [garland? sinatra? etc?] long ago. don't know the story well enough to try to tell it. and not coincidentally [?] 'home' of many lps by HW/ Can/ADII and such in the early '70s, though i believe UA was far from its origins by then. ==== "<>" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 07:38:02 EDT Subject: Sunday's BOC gig In-Reply-To: <003101c00267$c79fce80$ea22893e@ukbears.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: For Brian and anyone else: Sunday's gig at Vernon Downs features BOC as the headliner! This is way beyond cool, as there will be about 50,000 people in attendance. Will be great seeing them close the show, and also that BOC will play a longer set than usual in a festival gig... theo From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Thu Aug 10 19:53:47 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 16:53:47 -0700 Subject: BOC: HW: Moorcock BOC tracks Message-ID: Please does anyone know where the Moorcock & BOC tracks are available: Veterans of the Psychic Wars I dont remeber the rest! Any help would be appreciated. Cheers Ben From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Thu Aug 10 20:04:05 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 17:04:05 -0700 Subject: HW: Moorcock Message-ID: Does anyone know where these are available: The Camus Referendum ??/98 Gara du Nord, magazine Cheering For The Robots 11/98 Interzone # 137, magazine Ta! From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Aug 10 12:54:39 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:54:39 -0400 Subject: BOC: HW: Moorcock BOC tracks In-Reply-To: <3993408B.2622105@netscapeonline.co.uk> Message-ID: VotPW is on Fire of Unknown Origin and Extra Terrestrial Live Black Blade is on Cultosaurus Erectus and Extra Terrestrial Live Great Sun Jester is on Mirrors All these albums should be fairly easy to find in the BOC bin at most record stores, or at any major online retailer. Brian (Who really likes Black Blade, in case it wasn't obvious.) > Please does anyone know where the Moorcock & BOC tracks are available: > > Veterans of the Psychic Wars > > I dont remeber the rest! > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Cheers > > Ben From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Aug 10 12:58:33 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:58:33 -0400 Subject: BOC: Sunday's BOC gig In-Reply-To: <200008101138.HAA14462@syr.edu> Message-ID: Theo, I think I still might have to pass. I need to keep up my energy (and my $) for the University of Errors gig on Tuesday and the Iron Maiden headbanging free-for-all on Wednesday. Brian > For Brian and anyone else: > > Sunday's gig at Vernon Downs features BOC as the headliner! This > is way beyond cool, as there will be about 50,000 people in > attendance. Will be great seeing them close the show, and also that > BOC will play a longer set than usual in a festival gig... > > theo From jrankin at VOYAGER.NET Thu Aug 10 12:48:20 2000 From: jrankin at VOYAGER.NET (W. Jeffrey Rankin) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 12:48:20 -0400 Subject: BOC: HW: Moorcock BOC tracks In-Reply-To: <3993408B.2622105@netscapeonline.co.uk> Message-ID: Hello - "Veteran of The Psychic Wars" is from Fire of Unknown Origin. There's a track on the Mirrors album called "The Great Sun Jester". And, then there's "Black Blade", from the Cultosaurus Erectus album. I believe that's all of them, please correct me if I'm wrong. =================================== Jeff Rankin jrankin at voyager.net http://www.jeffr.net/ =================================== On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, linuxchaos wrote: > Please does anyone know where the Moorcock & BOC tracks are available: > > Veterans of the Psychic Wars > > I dont remeber the rest! > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Cheers > > Ben > > From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Thu Aug 10 13:00:00 2000 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 13:00:00 -0400 Subject: BOC: HW: Moorcock BOC tracks Message-ID: VotPW is also found on the Heavy Metal Soundtrack > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Halligan [SMTP:blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM] > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 12:55 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: BOC: HW: Moorcock BOC tracks > > VotPW is on Fire of Unknown Origin and Extra Terrestrial Live > Black Blade is on Cultosaurus Erectus and Extra Terrestrial Live > Great Sun Jester is on Mirrors > > All these albums should be fairly easy to find in the BOC bin at most > record > stores, or at any major online retailer. > > Brian > (Who really likes Black Blade, in case it wasn't obvious.) > > > Please does anyone know where the Moorcock & BOC tracks are available: > > > > Veterans of the Psychic Wars > > > > I dont remeber the rest! > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Cheers > > > > Ben From colum26 at YAHOO.COM Thu Aug 10 13:27:44 2000 From: colum26 at YAHOO.COM (=?iso-8859-1?q?colm=20mcwilliams?=) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 10:27:44 -0700 Subject: all hawkwind/calvert fans please read this!!!!!!! Message-ID: hello there if anyones interested cdzone has this for sale: > Hawkwind Tales From Atom Henge 1 ?4.92 >+ Postage and Packing ?0.74 Order Total ?5.66 >Payment has been charged to your card >Thank you for your order got mine today it rocks!!!! thought this cd was deleted? and for sale at ?4.92 what a bargain!! though it did take cd zone a month to send it to me anyway thought i would share this info with you the url is www.cdzone.co.uk cheers colm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/ From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Aug 10 14:06:50 2000 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (IAN ABRAHAMS) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 19:06:50 +0100 Subject: HW: Moorcock Message-ID: Ben Would imagine you'd pick-up a copy of the Interzone issue easily enough in London, either at Forbideen Planet or the SF section downstairs at Murder One (on Charing X Roads). Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: linuxchaos To: Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 1:04 AM Subject: HW: Moorcock > Does anyone know where these are available: > > The Camus Referendum ??/98 Gara du Nord, magazine > Cheering For The Robots 11/98 Interzone # 137, magazine > > > Ta! > From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Aug 10 14:00:23 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 14:00:23 -0400 Subject: BOC: HW: Moorcock BOC tracks Message-ID: At 04:53 PM 8/10/2000 -0700, linuxchaos wrote: >Please does anyone know where the Moorcock & BOC tracks are available: > >Veterans of the Psychic Wars > >I dont remeber the rest! > >Any help would be appreciated. The Great Sun Jester - Mirrors Black Blade - Cultosaurus Erectus, Extraterrestrial Live, Career of Evil, other comps Veteran of the Psychic Wars - Fire of Unknown Origin, Extraterrestrial Live, Workshop of the Telescopes, other comps "Left behind by the latest trends... eating fried chicken with his regicidal friends... - "Porcelain Monkey" by Warren Zevon =============== Andrew Apold From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Fri Aug 11 02:48:08 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 23:48:08 -0700 Subject: BOC: HW: Moorcock BOC tracks Message-ID: I have the heavy metal video but never realised MM was on it! "Hall, Russell J" wrote: > VotPW is also found on the Heavy Metal Soundtrack > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Brian Halligan [SMTP:blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM] > > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 12:55 PM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: Re: BOC: HW: Moorcock BOC tracks > > > > VotPW is on Fire of Unknown Origin and Extra Terrestrial Live > > Black Blade is on Cultosaurus Erectus and Extra Terrestrial Live > > Great Sun Jester is on Mirrors > > > > All these albums should be fairly easy to find in the BOC bin at most > > record > > stores, or at any major online retailer. > > > > Brian > > (Who really likes Black Blade, in case it wasn't obvious.) > > > > > Please does anyone know where the Moorcock & BOC tracks are available: > > > > > > Veterans of the Psychic Wars > > > > > > I dont remeber the rest! > > > > > > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > Ben From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Thu Aug 10 20:53:41 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 19:53:41 -0500 Subject: HW: cghweuigviug Message-ID: Well I'm off to SD2000. Before I go, Here are some samples of some live HW that I plan to offer up on the list as a cdr chain. Please open this link in your browser window: http://www.myspace.com/Folders/5370721/ Use the following password to access the folder: "borntogo" - for reading 10/31/82 Bristol snippet1 snippet2 12/08/90 River Grove golden void The samples are in mp3 form, so you can easily download them and see if you want to take part. More info to follow if I return from Strange Daze. dan From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Fri Aug 11 02:35:13 2000 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:35:13 +0800 Subject: all hawkwind/calvert fans please read this!!!!!!! Message-ID: The Robert Calvert Years - a cd worth having but I wish it had Gremlins 1 & 2 on it. Those songs still allude me. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: colm mcwilliams To: Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 1:27 AM Subject: all hawkwind/calvert fans please read this!!!!!!! > hello there > > if anyones interested cdzone has this for sale: > > > Hawkwind Tales From Atom Henge 1 ?4.92 > > >+ Postage and Packing ?0.74 > Order Total ?5.66 > > >Payment has been charged to your card > > >Thank you for your order > > got mine today it rocks!!!! > > thought this cd was deleted? > > and for sale at ?4.92 what a bargain!! > > though it did take cd zone a month to send it to me > > anyway thought i would share this info with you > > the url is www.cdzone.co.uk > > > cheers > > colm > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Fri Aug 11 03:06:39 2000 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (BL Young) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 01:06:39 -0600 Subject: HW: sign me up for a tree! Message-ID: I'll gladly sign up for a branch on any Hawkwind tree! I can verify perfect DAE and I can burn DAO without problems. I've never tried overburning to an 80 minute cdr, but I assume it's possible. I've got a few more Hawkwind boots now than I used to have, but I always need more! The boots I've got are listed online at the link http://www.geocities.com/obolong/bootlegs.htm but all the Hawkwind stuff is near the bottom. And all of my cds in my collection are listed here: http://www.geocities.com/obolong/cd_libry.htm and again, the Hawkwind stuff is near the bottom. If this tree idea catches on, I'd be happy to submit any HW boots that I've got, too. Bryan Young Saskatchewan, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Witt To: Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 6:53 PM Subject: HW: cghweuigviug > Well I'm off to SD2000. > > Before I go, > > Here are some samples of some live HW that I plan to offer up on the > list as a cdr chain. > > > Please open this link in your browser window: > > http://www.myspace.com/Folders/5370721/ > > Use the following password to access the folder: > "borntogo" - for reading > > > 10/31/82 Bristol > > snippet1 > snippet2 > > 12/08/90 River Grove > > golden void > > The samples are in mp3 form, so you can easily download them and see if > you want to take part. > > More info to follow if I return from Strange Daze. > > dan From SHLL at NOVO.DK Fri Aug 11 05:18:42 2000 From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:18:42 +0200 Subject: HW: Casettes for Collectors Message-ID: Hej, I have the pre-recorded cassette tapes of the US releases for Xenon Codex and Live Chronicles if anyone is interested in trading for these. Might be a few collectors who need these.. Did the man searching for the Hawklords- 25 years on ever find his CD? I might be persuaded to sell my copy. scott From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Fri Aug 11 08:40:00 2000 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:40:00 EDT Subject: BOC: HW: Moorcock BOC tracks Message-ID: Yeah, 'Veteran' plays in the first story, during the sequence when the professor and his dwarf dudes are digging the Loc-Nar out of the dirt Joe Loehr From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Fri Aug 11 08:56:56 2000 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 08:56:56 -0400 Subject: BOC: HW: Moorcock BOC tracks Message-ID: "Right . . . twelve . . . degrees" "My name's Harry Canyon. I drive a cab" > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Loehr [SMTP:JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM] > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 8:40 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: BOC: HW: Moorcock BOC tracks > > Yeah, 'Veteran' plays in the first story, during the sequence when the > professor and his dwarf dudes are digging the Loc-Nar out of the dirt > > Joe Loehr From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Fri Aug 11 12:03:45 2000 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (Michael R Godwin) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:03:45 +0100 Subject: BOC: HW: Moorcock BOC tracks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, W. Jeffrey Rankin wrote: > "Veteran of The Psychic Wars" is from Fire of Unknown Origin. There's a > track on the Mirrors album called "The Great Sun Jester". And, then > there's "Black Blade", from the Cultosaurus Erectus album. > > I believe that's all of them, please correct me if I'm wrong. Agreed. Now can anyone remind me which Moorcock books the characters and ideas in these songs are drawn from? 'The Great Sun Jester' is obviously the Fireclown from 'Winds of Limbo'. I guess that 'Black Blade' is an Elric reference. Not sure about VotPW. Some Jerry Cornelius thing possibly? - Mike Godwin From jrankin at VOYAGER.NET Fri Aug 11 12:17:18 2000 From: jrankin at VOYAGER.NET (W. Jeffrey Rankin) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 12:17:18 -0400 Subject: BOC: HW: Moorcock BOC tracks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, there's a reference to "Where the winds of limobo roar..." in VotPW, might it be a reference to the same book (the first one you mentioned, which I've never read BTW, so I'm not sure)? On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Michael R Godwin wrote: > > Agreed. Now can anyone remind me which Moorcock books the characters and > ideas in these songs are drawn from? 'The Great Sun Jester' is obviously > the Fireclown from 'Winds of Limbo'. I guess that 'Black Blade' is an > Elric reference. Not sure about VotPW. Some Jerry Cornelius thing > possibly? > > - Mike Godwin > > From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Aug 11 12:25:21 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:25:21 +0100 Subject: BOC: HW: Moorcock BOC tracks Message-ID: Where's Limobo then? Sounds like somewhere in Central Africa to me... (You can tell I'm tired and on my way to the boozer...) Have a good weekend all! Cheers, Rich. ObListening: Wunnerful Radio 'Ractive - currently playing "Mary" by the SolarFlares. It rocks. (Sadly it only streams through the building here) > Well, there's a reference to "Where the winds of limobo roar..." in VotPW, > might it be a reference to the same book (the first one you mentioned, > which I've never read BTW, so I'm not sure)? > > On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Michael R Godwin wrote: > > > > > Agreed. Now can anyone remind me which Moorcock books the characters and > > ideas in these songs are drawn from? 'The Great Sun Jester' is obviously > > the Fireclown from 'Winds of Limbo'. I guess that 'Black Blade' is an > > Elric reference. Not sure about VotPW. Some Jerry Cornelius thing > > possibly? > > > > - Mike Godwin > > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Aug 11 12:58:56 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 17:58:56 +0100 Subject: BOC: HW: Moorcock BOC tracks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Michael R Godwin wrote: > On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, W. Jeffrey Rankin wrote: > > "Veteran of The Psychic Wars" is from Fire of Unknown Origin. There's a > > track on the Mirrors album called "The Great Sun Jester". And, then > > there's "Black Blade", from the Cultosaurus Erectus album. > > > > I believe that's all of them, please correct me if I'm wrong. > > Agreed. Now can anyone remind me which Moorcock books the characters and > ideas in these songs are drawn from? 'The Great Sun Jester' is obviously > the Fireclown from 'Winds of Limbo'. I guess that 'Black Blade' is an > Elric reference. Not sure about VotPW. Some Jerry Cornelius thing > possibly? Is it actually tied to a book? I took it as a kind of Song of the Eternal Champion. Like the spoken-word pieces on HW's _Warrior at the Edge of Time_ - some of them are almost verbatim culls from _The Eternal Champion_ (is that just the omnibus title? The one with Erekose in, anyway), some of them seem more general. Is it not more a song from the cycle than from any book in particular? My 2pworth, yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | ======================================================================| | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | From jrankin at VOYAGER.NET Fri Aug 11 13:00:17 2000 From: jrankin at VOYAGER.NET (W. Jeffrey Rankin) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:00:17 -0400 Subject: BOC: HW: Moorcock BOC tracks In-Reply-To: <03a701c003b0$bf8e10e0$3d01a8c0@tpd.co.uk> Message-ID: Oops, pardon my misspelling! I mean limbo, not limobo! - Jeff On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Richard Lockwood wrote: > Where's Limobo then? Sounds like somewhere in Central Africa to me... > > (You can tell I'm tired and on my way to the boozer...) > > Have a good weekend all! > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > ObListening: Wunnerful Radio 'Ractive - currently playing "Mary" by the > SolarFlares. It rocks. > (Sadly it only streams through the building here) > > > > Well, there's a reference to "Where the winds of limobo roar..." in VotPW, > > might it be a reference to the same book (the first one you mentioned, > > which I've never read BTW, so I'm not sure)? > > > > On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Michael R Godwin wrote: > > > > > > > > Agreed. Now can anyone remind me which Moorcock books the characters and > > > ideas in these songs are drawn from? 'The Great Sun Jester' is obviously > > > the Fireclown from 'Winds of Limbo'. I guess that 'Black Blade' is an > > > Elric reference. Not sure about VotPW. Some Jerry Cornelius thing > > > possibly? > > > > > > - Mike Godwin > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Aug 11 13:15:00 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:15:00 -0400 Subject: BOC: HW: Moorcock BOC tracks Message-ID: >> Agreed. Now can anyone remind me which Moorcock books the characters and >> ideas in these songs are drawn from? 'The Great Sun Jester' is obviously >> the Fireclown from 'Winds of Limbo'. I guess that 'Black Blade' is an >> Elric reference. Not sure about VotPW. Some Jerry Cornelius thing >> possibly? > > Is it actually tied to a book? I took it as a kind of Song of the >Eternal Champion. Like the spoken-word pieces on HW's _Warrior at the Edge >of Time_ - some of them are almost verbatim culls from _The Eternal >Champion_ (is that just the omnibus title? The one with Erekose in, >anyway), some of them seem more general. Is it not more a song from the >cycle than from any book in particular? My 2pworth, yours, All this info is availabe in the BOC FAQ at http://hometown.aol.com/bocfaqman to quote: The BOC/Michael Moorcock Connection=================================== Science-Fiction writer and former Hawkwind member Michael Moorcock has collaborated with Eric Bloom on three BOC tunes: "The Great Sun Jester", "Black Blade", and "Veteran Of The Psychic Wars". The lyrics to these songs have been inspired by, or used in several of Moorcock's works. "The Great Sun Jester" is mentioned in two of his novels: "The Fireclown" (a line from the song), and "The Transformation of Miss Mavis Ming" (this latter has recently been included in a collection of Moorcock's stories under the title "Constant Fire" - the collection itself is called "Behold the Man and other stories"). Perhaps coincidental, but in "The Transformation of Miss Mavis Ming" (titled "Messiah at the End of Time" in the U.S.), the character who appears claiming to be the Fire Clown states one of his many names as Emmanuel Bloom (E. Bloom - co-author of "The Great Sun Jester"?). The song "Black Blade" refers to Elric the albino king, featured prominently in several Moorcock stories (e.g. "Elric of Melnibone", "Stormbringer"). Elric was a melancholic individual who relied on a supernatural, but treacherous sword for his strength and vigor. The "Black Blade" is that sword, which rules its master, and eventually the universe. The title of the song, "Veteran Of The Psychic Wars" was used in Moorcock's "The Dragon in the Sword" (published in 1987) -- "We are the lost, we are the last, we are the unkind. We are the Warriors at the Edge of Time. We are the cold, the halt, the deaf, the blind. Fate's frozen forces, veterans of the psychic wars..." (from "The Dragon in the Sword", p.68.) In addition, the line "we are veterans of a thousand psychic wars" appears in Moorcock's song "Standing On The Edge", which appeared on Hawkwind's 1975 concept album, *Warrior On The Edge Of Time*. There is an interesting connection between two of the three BOC/Moorcock tunes. One of the lyrics in "Veteran Of The Psychic Wars" refers to "the winds of limbo". "The Winds Of Limbo" was the alternative title of Moorcock's novel, "The Fireclown". As previously mentioned, "the fireclown" is mentioned in song "The Great Sun Jester". In addition to the three songs mentioned, Michael Moorcock also wrote lyrics for a BOC song which eventually became "Feel The Thunder". Although the lyrics were not used, some form of them were eventually used in the song, "Sleep Of A Thousand Tears", which was released on Hawkwind's 1985 album, *Chronicle Of The Black Sword*. Eric Bloom and Michael Moorcock once performed "Black Blade" and "Veteran Of The Psychic Wars" together in 1987 at the Dungeons and Dragons convention, "Dragoncon '87". Moorcock has also performed slightly different forms of the songs "Black Blade" and "The Great Sun Jester" as spoken-word pieces. "Black Blade" was performed in 1977 (3 years before appearing on *Cultosaurus Erectus*), and "The Great Sun Jester was performed with Hawkwind in the early 1980's. ..... side note - I believe Darxtar (with Nik, IIRC) did a spoken word version of the Great Sun Jester.. "Left behind by the latest trends... eating fried chicken with his regicidal friends... - "Porcelain Monkey" by Warren Zevon =============== Andrew Apold From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Fri Aug 11 13:24:50 2000 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 13:24:50 -0400 Subject: BOC: HW: Moorcock BOC tracks Message-ID: Nik Turner did a spoken word version of "The Great Sun Jester" on his first Space Ritual tour with Pressurhead and Helios Creed. Dr. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Andrew A. Apold [SMTP:mordru at FLITE.NET] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 10:15 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: BOC: HW: Moorcock BOC tracks >> Agreed. Now can anyone remind me which Moorcock books the characters and >> ideas in these songs are drawn from? 'The Great Sun Jester' is obviously >> the Fireclown from 'Winds of Limbo'. I guess that 'Black Blade' is an >> Elric reference. Not sure about VotPW. Some Jerry Cornelius thing >> possibly? > > Is it actually tied to a book? I took it as a kind of Song of the >Eternal Champion. Like the spoken-word pieces on HW's _Warrior at the Edge >of Time_ - some of them are almost verbatim culls from _The Eternal >Champion_ (is that just the omnibus title? The one with Erekose in, >anyway), some of them seem more general. Is it not more a song from the >cycle than from any book in particular? My 2pworth, yours, All this info is availabe in the BOC FAQ at http://hometown.aol.com/bocfaqman to quote: The BOC/Michael Moorcock Connection=================================== Science-Fiction writer and former Hawkwind member Michael Moorcock has collaborated with Eric Bloom on three BOC tunes: "The Great Sun Jester", "Black Blade", and "Veteran Of The Psychic Wars". The lyrics to these songs have been inspired by, or used in several of Moorcock's works. "The Great Sun Jester" is mentioned in two of his novels: "The Fireclown" (a line from the song), and "The Transformation of Miss Mavis Ming" (this latter has recently been included in a collection of Moorcock's stories under the title "Constant Fire" - the collection itself is called "Behold the Man and other stories"). Perhaps coincidental, but in "The Transformation of Miss Mavis Ming" (titled "Messiah at the End of Time" in the U.S.), the character who appears claiming to be the Fire Clown states one of his many names as Emmanuel Bloom (E. Bloom - co-author of "The Great Sun Jester"?). The song "Black Blade" refers to Elric the albino king, featured prominently in several Moorcock stories (e.g. "Elric of Melnibone", "Stormbringer"). Elric was a melancholic individual who relied on a supernatural, but treacherous sword for his strength and vigor. The "Black Blade" is that sword, which rules its master, and eventually the universe. The title of the song, "Veteran Of The Psychic Wars" was used in Moorcock's "The Dragon in the Sword" (published in 1987) -- "We are the lost, we are the last, we are the unkind. We are the Warriors at the Edge of Time. We are the cold, the halt, the deaf, the blind. Fate's frozen forces, veterans of the psychic wars..." (from "The Dragon in the Sword", p.68.) In addition, the line "we are veterans of a thousand psychic wars" appears in Moorcock's song "Standing On The Edge", which appeared on Hawkwind's 1975 concept album, *Warrior On The Edge Of Time*. There is an interesting connection between two of the three BOC/Moorcock tunes. One of the lyrics in "Veteran Of The Psychic Wars" refers to "the winds of limbo". "The Winds Of Limbo" was the alternative title of Moorcock's novel, "The Fireclown". As previously mentioned, "the fireclown" is mentioned in song "The Great Sun Jester". In addition to the three songs mentioned, Michael Moorcock also wrote lyrics for a BOC song which eventually became "Feel The Thunder". Although the lyrics were not used, some form of them were eventually used in the song, "Sleep Of A Thousand Tears", which was released on Hawkwind's 1985 album, *Chronicle Of The Black Sword*. Eric Bloom and Michael Moorcock once performed "Black Blade" and "Veteran Of The Psychic Wars" together in 1987 at the Dungeons and Dragons convention, "Dragoncon '87". Moorcock has also performed slightly different forms of the songs "Black Blade" and "The Great Sun Jester" as spoken-word pieces. "Black Blade" was performed in 1977 (3 years before appearing on *Cultosaurus Erectus*), and "The Great Sun Jester was performed with Hawkwind in the early 1980's. ..... side note - I believe Darxtar (with Nik, IIRC) did a spoken word version of the Great Sun Jester.. "Left behind by the latest trends... eating fried chicken with his regicidal friends... - "Porcelain Monkey" by Warren Zevon =============== Andrew Apold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Fri Aug 11 13:53:03 2000 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (Michael R Godwin) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:53:03 +0100 Subject: BOC: HW: Apold info on Moorcock tracks In-Reply-To: <200008111715.NAA15823@issfire2.co.palm-beach.fl.us> Message-ID: Thanks for the comprehensive info, Andrew. There must be some info in there worthy of the FAQ. I met Moorcock once at a book-signing session, and he told me that he was possibly going to make an album with Eric Bloom. It sounds as if the Dragoncon 87 appearances must have been all that came out of that idea. - Mike Godwin From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Aug 11 14:10:49 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:10:49 -0400 Subject: BOC: HW: Apold info on Moorcock tracks Message-ID: At 06:53 PM 8/11/2000 +0100, Michael R Godwin wrote: >Thanks for the comprehensive info, Andrew. There must be some info in >there worthy of the FAQ. You misundestand, I was quoting the FAQ, except that last line about Nik and Darxtar... >I met Moorcock once at a book-signing session, and he told me that he was >possibly going to make an album with Eric Bloom. It sounds as if the >Dragoncon 87 appearances must have been all that came out of that idea. Pity.... with him living over here it would not have been that difficult to get them together for stuff. From what I've read, they weren't really just friends, Eric was a fan of Mike's books and wrote him a letter, which lead to mail correspondence. perhaps they didn't get along as swimmingly when they met in person... "Left behind by the latest trends... eating fried chicken with his regicidal friends... - "Porcelain Monkey" by Warren Zevon =============== Andrew Apold From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Aug 11 14:21:51 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:21:51 EDT Subject: BOC: HW: Apold info on Moorcock tracks In-Reply-To: <200008111810.OAA18852@issfire2.co.palm-beach.fl.us> Message-ID: On 11 Aug 00, at 14:10, Andrew A. Apold wrote: > Pity.... with him living over here it would not have been that > difficult to get them together for stuff. From what I've read, they > weren't really just friends, Eric was a fan of Mike's books and wrote > him a letter, which lead to mail correspondence. perhaps they didn't > get along as swimmingly when they met in person... > Geez, somebody didn't get along with Bloom...Hard to imagine... theo From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Aug 11 18:01:48 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:01:48 EDT Subject: OFF: TEST. Message-ID: today, the virus won hard drive erased. new [pour moi] mac OS9 installed do i need to re-enlist? "<>" From g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK Fri Aug 11 18:29:13 2000 From: g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK (g.m.wright) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 23:29:13 +0100 Subject: CDS FOR SALE Message-ID: I mentioned a few weeks ago the death of a friend. well his parents are selling his records to raise money for a cause relating to diabetes. 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Name: ANTHOLOGY.doc Type: application/msword Size: 22016 bytes Desc: not available URL: From BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sat Aug 12 07:36:48 2000 From: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 04:36:48 -0700 Subject: S & F Message-ID: [Message 042425 deleted by moderator at the author's request] From ckeep at JULIAN.UWO.CA Sat Aug 12 11:16:33 2000 From: ckeep at JULIAN.UWO.CA (Christopher Keep) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 10:16:33 -0500 Subject: HW, Spiral Galaxy Spiral Galaxy 28948 tablature Message-ID: does any guitar wiz out there have / would care to come up with the guitar tablature for this classic simon house number? i know it's more a keyboard workout, but the guitar part is pretty nifty too, only i can't quite figure out the chords! cheers, chris From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Aug 12 12:19:50 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 17:19:50 +0100 Subject: HW and OTHER: HW news? PTree releases? In-Reply-To: <200007311922.PAA29433@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, K Henderson wrote: > >While browsing through a retailer I deal with in Pittsburgh, PA > >(Paul Olszewski, at http://members.aol.com/paulsstore/), I ran across > >some new PTree releases, including a new CD called Lightbulb Sun and > >some singles presumably from it (Stranger By the Minute, Pure Narcotic, > >and 4 Chords that Made a Million). Any reactions to it yet from the > >list? > > Hmmmm...I just got it myself, after picking up the 4 Chords 3-track single > (two non-album tracks) a few weeks back. I was reasonably encouraged by the > 3 songs on the single, but the album is pretty bland I believe. Maybe it'll > take awhile to recognize the merits in the music (I like Stupid Dream a lot > more than I did last year, though I still think it has some serious > problems). On Lightbulb Sun, it appears that SW has made a conscious effort > to change his singing style, and IMHO it was a bad idea...it sounds forced > and full of 'faux confidence'. And several songs have very nice parts here > and there, but there are not many that are interesting throughout. I hope > it's a low point in PT's career. The single is actually better. The single is good. The follow-up one is also not bad, there's a lovely melancholy untitled jam on the non-limited one. I actually like the album, but I have to kind of use _Stupid Dream_ as a lever. I don't like SD very much, but _Lightbulb Sun_ is kind of out of the curve and here they are, a different kind of band. The thing that annoys me most is that all the material is moody lovesongs. Some quite good ones, but all the same, not very interesting. My theory is that Steven Wilson can write these in huge quantity and Snapper are pushing him for product. But the music is pretty good, I think. Some things I never expected to hear PT do, and there isn't anything on it that really gets up my nose like `Stop Swimming' does on SD. So, as long as you know it's a pop record, I'd say it's a pretty good one. My 2pworth, Jon ObCD: On Trial - _New Day Rising_ -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | ======================================================================| | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sat Aug 12 18:53:29 2000 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 18:53:29 EDT Subject: OFF-ish: Moorcock Reading Message-ID: Michael Moorcock does a 16-minute reading of The Dreamthief's Daughter at the SciFi Channel site www.scifi.com/set/readings/moorcock/moorcock1.ram Joe Loehr From multiverse at ONEBOX.COM Sat Aug 12 22:45:57 2000 From: multiverse at ONEBOX.COM (Berry Sizemore AKA Jhary-a-Conel) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 19:45:57 -0700 Subject: Michael Moorcock at ReaderCon Message-ID: To hear the recent ReaderCon readings by Michael Moorcock which are: The Dreamthief's Daughter Playtime: 16:18 minutes Through the Shaving Mirror, Or How We Abolished the Future Playtime: 6:22 minutes The King of the City Playtime: 21:16 minutes Visit http://www.scifi.com/set/readings/moorcock/ Jhary-a-Conel (253) 503-2230 x5541 ICQ: 1400818 multiverse at onebox.com http://www.multiverse.org/ "It seems very pretty," she said when she had finished it, "but it's rather hard to understand!" (You see she didn't like to confess, even to herself, that she couldn't make it out at all.) "Somehow it seems to fill my head with ideas-only I don't exactly know what they are!" - Lewis Carroll __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com From multiverse at ONEBOX.COM Sat Aug 12 22:46:27 2000 From: multiverse at ONEBOX.COM (Berry Sizemore AKA Jhary-a-Conel) Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 19:46:27 -0700 Subject: Michael Moorcock Reads Message-ID: To hear the recent readings by Michael Moorcock which are: The Dreamthief's Daughter Playtime: 16:18 minutes Through the Shaving Mirror, Or How We Abolished the Future Playtime: 6:22 minutes The King of the City Playtime: 21:16 minutes Visit http://www.scifi.com/set/readings/moorcock/ Jhary-a-Conel (253) 503-2230 x5541 ICQ: 1400818 multiverse at onebox.com http://www.multiverse.org/ "It seems very pretty," she said when she had finished it, "but it's rather hard to understand!" (You see she didn't like to confess, even to herself, that she couldn't make it out at all.) "Somehow it seems to fill my head with ideas-only I don't exactly know what they are!" - Lewis Carroll __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Sun Aug 13 03:06:36 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 08:06:36 +0100 Subject: OFF: Lemmy on TV Message-ID: This Wednesday (16th) on BBC2 there is a new series of "All Back To Mine" and Lemmy is the subject. I don't know what time so check local press for details:0( Stuart http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records Distributor of Stone Premonitions and Elastic Fiction Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Sun Aug 13 05:46:45 2000 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 03:46:45 -0600 Subject: OFF: Zero Hour Message-ID: OK folks, I just bought 3 CD's from 3 different local Albuquerque rock bands. Oddly, the most proggish of the 3 is the less interesting (and the production is awful). OTOH, I was _very_ impressed with one of them, Zero Hour. I'd actually heard about them before, as they have kind of a reputation around here, since they do a lot of gigs at parties and clubs and stuff. This album I bought is their first. It's called "Kismet" and it's really amazing. Very professional. You'd think it'd been released on a major label. Now why do I mention it here ? Well, for one thing because I really like it and thought I'd do a bit of "promotion" for them, since you can listen to some of their tracks online and buy the album from Amazon.com or Joe's Grille (www.joesgrille.com). They have their own website up at : http://www.zerohourband.com/ The other reasons why I bring it up here is because : 1) Although they are not a prog band per se, they have a lot of proggish tracks ("Hard times," "Back in love," "Shades of gray...") 2) I think a lot of list members would actually like them - heck, one of their songs ("Shades of gray") is very reminiscent of BOC's "Power underneath despair." My personal favorite, though, has got to be "Back in love." Awesome song. What else ? Oh yes, "Kismet" was their first album and dates from 1998. They apparently have a new CD out called "Grasshopper." So new, actually, that it doesn't seem to be available for purchase yet at Joe's Grille. Haven't checked Amazon yet. Anyway. Listen to the samples on the band's site (they even have "Back in love" on there) and let me know what you think :-) Hopefully you won't regret it :-) Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Aug 13 10:10:32 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 10:10:32 EDT Subject: OFF: bottom, front page, Boston Sunday Globe...(att: Doug P.!) Message-ID: there is a then and now article about... (wait for it!) The Shaggs. "<>" From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Aug 13 15:21:57 2000 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 20:21:57 +0100 Subject: OFF: Lemmy on TV Message-ID: Its Channel 4 at 11.30 pm, this Wed 16th August. Nick -----Original Message----- From: Zeitgeist To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 13 August 2000 09:01 Subject: OFF: Lemmy on TV >This Wednesday (16th) on BBC2 there is a new series of "All Back To >Mine" and Lemmy is the subject. I don't know what time so check >local press for details:0( > >Stuart > > > >http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records >Distributor of Stone Premonitions and Elastic Fiction >Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist >Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK > >"A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" >http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From rdc at NTLWORLD.COM Sun Aug 13 16:13:40 2000 From: rdc at NTLWORLD.COM (Richard Crossley) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 21:13:40 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 Message-ID: Watch for wrapped URL... http://www.wayahead.com/cgi-bin/aloud/search-details.pl?code=23489&s ub=&template=aloud/tickets-online Richard Crossley mailto:rdc at ntlworld.com From colm1 at MINISTRYOFSOUND.NET Sun Aug 13 16:45:25 2000 From: colm1 at MINISTRYOFSOUND.NET (bedroom trancer) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 21:45:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 Message-ID: is this for real? -----Original Message----- From: Richard Crossley To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 13 August 2000 21:25 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 >Watch for wrapped URL... > >http://www.wayahead.com/cgi-bin/aloud/search-details.pl?code=23489&s >ub=&template=aloud/tickets-online > >Richard Crossley >mailto:rdc at ntlworld.com > From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Aug 13 17:05:00 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 22:05:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Richard Crossley writes >Watch for wrapped URL... > >http://www.wayahead.com/cgi-bin/aloud/search-details.pl?code=23489&s ub=&template=aloud/tickets-online ______________________________ Event Information 8pm - 6am Original 67/68 Line up & Liquid Len & The Lensmen ___________________________ Pretty early line-up! -- Jon From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Aug 13 18:59:46 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 23:59:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 Message-ID: Mr Brock - if you're out there - I think it's time for a comment on this perhaps - we'd all love to be the first to know rather than the last.. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Crossley" To: Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 9:13 PM Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 > Watch for wrapped URL... > > http://www.wayahead.com/cgi-bin/aloud/search-details.pl?code=23489&s > ub=&template=aloud/tickets-online > > Richard Crossley > mailto:rdc at ntlworld.com From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sun Aug 13 23:56:54 2000 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 23:56:54 EDT Subject: More Hawkwind Decoded Message-ID: Hello Music Lovers: I've been at it again, and learned some new Hawkwind songs (for those of you that are interested). I learned these songs from the ORIGINAL versions, off of Doremi and Warrior, so don't respond saying they're in the wrong bloody key, compared to some later live version! Thanx to D-Rider for the lyrics (Long may your dragon fly!) Thanks oh so much Joe Loehr LORD OF LIGHT(Brock) in the key of D-Flat, I think Intro: F Major for 15(!!) bars B-Flat (2 bars) /A-Flat (2 bars) /G-Flat (2 bars) /F (2 bars) Verse: B-Flat A-Flat "The elements that gather here/upon this hill shall cast no fear G-Flat F Major Of lines that match across the world/for travel which no man has ever heard . . ." Into break: F Major repeat 6 times ". . . here our lifetime has begun/ What can I see, what can I see . . . F Major for 4 bars, back into verse TIME WE LEFT THIS WORLD TODAY(Brock) D-Flat also Intro: D-Flat/E-Flat/--/--/ ('--' = no chord) play 4 times. Then: D-Flat/E-Flat/F#/F (8 times) Verse: d=D-Flat; e=E-Flat d e/ F# F d e F# F "Time we left/this world today/ time we left/this world today . . ." The middle break is D Major and goes on (too long?) to repeat of verse DYING SEAS(Turner) Intro:-single notes- DDADDA/D#D#A# D#A# (play 7 times[14 bars] At the start of bar # 11 play: D(1 bar)/D# (1 bar)--play twice into verse Verse: D D# D D# "We flostsam been, and the jetsam/ In highness being, gonna get some A# C#/C/A#/G#/A# C#/C/A#/G# On the water walking, it's easy to be/Centralized we to infinity G A For oursel'n only have we to thank/If fool enow are we to walk the plank B C# Eternity to spend in mime/ Drowning in the dying seas of Time . . ." Break: C#(1 bar)/F#(1 bar)--repeat 4 times B(2 bars)/C(2 bars)/C#(2 bars)/D(2 bars)--back to verse I think Dying Seas in is B phrygian mode, or some variation there of. My Scale s and Modes for Guitar book sez that phrygian has the 2,3 6 & 7 intervals lowered a half step. In this song that would be C#(C), D#(D), G#(G) & A#(A). Just when I think I've learned a lot about music, some goofy stuff comes in. "The more I learn, the less I know" --It's All Too Much(George Harrison) From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Aug 14 00:07:36 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:37:36 +0930 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 Message-ID: I Live in Auatralia and If I have to I'll start moonlighting as a Jigalo to get there and see that gig!! Praying for a miricle - {I need a holliday any way } [If i only had da dough] all donation offers c/- this email . ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 8:29 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 > Mr Brock - if you're out there - I think it's time for a comment on this > perhaps - we'd all love to be the first to know rather than the last.. > Andy Garibaldi. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Crossley" > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 9:13 PM > Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 > > > > Watch for wrapped URL... > > > > http://www.wayahead.com/cgi-bin/aloud/search-details.pl?code=23489&s > > ub=&template=aloud/tickets-online > > > > Richard Crossley > > mailto:rdc at ntlworld.com > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Aug 14 00:21:04 2000 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 12:21:04 +0800 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 Message-ID: I live in Australia as well (Perth) and the closest I'll ever see HW live is Studio 22 or on videos. I envy you guys in Europe!!! Cheers Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: michael blackman To: Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 12:07 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 > I Live in Auatralia and If I have to I'll start moonlighting as a Jigalo to > get there and see that gig!! > Praying for a miricle - {I need a holliday any way } [If i only had da > dough] > > all donation offers c/- this email . > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ANDREW GARIBALDI > To: > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 8:29 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 > > > > Mr Brock - if you're out there - I think it's time for a comment on this > > perhaps - we'd all love to be the first to know rather than the last.. > > Andy Garibaldi. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Richard Crossley" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 9:13 PM > > Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 > > > > > > > Watch for wrapped URL... > > > > > > http://www.wayahead.com/cgi-bin/aloud/search-details.pl?code=23489&s > > > ub=&template=aloud/tickets-online > > > > > > Richard Crossley > > > mailto:rdc at ntlworld.com > > > From Steve_Delisle at NAG.NATIONAL.COM.AU Mon Aug 14 00:37:50 2000 From: Steve_Delisle at NAG.NATIONAL.COM.AU (Steven De Lisle) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:37:50 +1000 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 Message-ID: Bill and Cynthia HW were in Sydney earlier this year. You missed em! (so did i .....sigh) Bill & Cynthia on 14/08/2000 14:21:04 Please respond to "BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List" To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU cc: (bcc: Steve Delisle/TI/National Australia Bank/AU) Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 I live in Australia as well (Perth) and the closest I'll ever see HW live is Studio 22 or on videos. I envy you guys in Europe!!! Cheers Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: michael blackman To: Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 12:07 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 > I Live in Auatralia and If I have to I'll start moonlighting as a Jigalo to > get there and see that gig!! > Praying for a miricle - {I need a holliday any way } [If i only had da > dough] > > all donation offers c/- this email . > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ANDREW GARIBALDI > To: > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 8:29 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 > > > > Mr Brock - if you're out there - I think it's time for a comment on this > > perhaps - we'd all love to be the first to know rather than the last.. > > Andy Garibaldi. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Richard Crossley" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 9:13 PM > > Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 > > > > > > > Watch for wrapped URL... > > > > > > http://www.wayahead.com/cgi-bin/aloud/search-details.pl?code=23489&s > > > ub=&template=aloud/tickets-online > > > > > > Richard Crossley > > > mailto:rdc at ntlworld.com > > > From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Aug 14 01:08:35 2000 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 13:08:35 +0800 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven De Lisle To: Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 12:37 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 > Bill and Cynthia > HW were in Sydney earlier this year. You missed em! (so did i .....sigh) I know - found that out when they left.(sob) They are coming back early next year (I think) Hopefully it will be a national tour which includes Perth. If not, I'll have to start saving the pennies. If they do comedown (and dont cancel) I wont miss them this time. Bill From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Mon Aug 14 01:32:38 2000 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (David Greenhalgh) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:32:38 +0900 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 Message-ID: Is this DB or is it Nik? Surely we would have heard something if Dave was getting this together? Dave > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ANDREW GARIBALDI > To: > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 8:29 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 > > > Mr Brock - if you're out there - I think it's time for a comment on this > > perhaps - we'd all love to be the first to know rather than the last.. > > Andy Garibaldi. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Richard Crossley" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 9:13 PM > > Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 > > > > > > > Watch for wrapped URL... > > > > > > http://www.wayahead.com/cgi-bin/aloud/search-details.pl?code=23489&s > > > ub=&template=aloud/tickets-online > > > > > > Richard Crossley > > > mailto:rdc at ntlworld.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Steve_Delisle at NAG.NATIONAL.COM.AU Mon Aug 14 01:33:33 2000 From: Steve_Delisle at NAG.NATIONAL.COM.AU (Steven De Lisle) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:33:33 +1000 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 Message-ID: amen to that. I'll be there with bells and whistles on (provided they're in Melbourne) Bill & Cynthia on 14/08/2000 15:08:35 Please respond to "BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List" To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU cc: (bcc: Steve Delisle/TI/National Australia Bank/AU) Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven De Lisle To: Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 12:37 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 > Bill and Cynthia > HW were in Sydney earlier this year. You missed em! (so did i .....sigh) I know - found that out when they left.(sob) They are coming back early next year (I think) Hopefully it will be a national tour which includes Perth. If not, I'll have to start saving the pennies. If they do comedown (and dont cancel) I wont miss them this time. Bill From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Mon Aug 14 04:03:10 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:03:10 +0100 Subject: HW for sale Message-ID: Well I've had a bit of clear out and there's 20+ HW items up for sale at; http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist Just type Hawkind into the search box. As always interesting trades will be considered. Regards, Stuart NP Yoke Shire - Masque Of Shadows http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records Distributor of Stone Premonitions and Elastic Fiction Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Mon Aug 14 04:59:57 2000 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:59:57 +1200 Subject: new list member In-Reply-To: <013c01c005ad$b34fb3c0$2a4f3bcb@cynthiaf> Message-ID: Hi All, Just like to say I've recently subscribed to the list. Are there any other Hawkwind members on the list besides Dave Brock and Kris Tait ? How about any other New Zealanders ? Richard (at Cranium Music) From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Aug 14 08:16:42 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:46:42 +0930 Subject: Dave & Kris Message-ID: Hi Is the Captain out there somewhere? I Have some intelligent questions that be itchin my brains :>) Michael B -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 14 10:13:33 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:13:33 +0100 Subject: HW: SD'2K / Harvey In-Reply-To: ANDREW GARIBALDI's message of Fri, 4 Aug 2000 22:29:09 +0100 Message-ID: ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > Technically, yeah, although I can imagine Bill's sitting on a stack of > stuff that I want to buy for CDS but he doesn't know and I can't find > him and Cargo don't know where he is either and they're supposed to be > his distributors. And the music biz are astonished that they're having their pants pulled over their heads by 14 year olds with computers. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 14 10:21:06 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:21:06 +0100 Subject: [Fwd: Your message to Sky News] In-Reply-To: linuxchaos's message of Sat, 5 Aug 2000 20:15:37 -0700 Message-ID: > ----------- Your original message is below ---------- > > I think the myth of Royalty is past it's sell by date and fully support > the re-birth of a British republic where members of the public can vote > for key issues on the internet. People who dont have internet access > could visit libraries and internet polling stations. > > Ben Fagin > London I can see it now: we'll put two hundred paedophiles in a stockade festooned with television cameras. Each day they'll have to select two of their number and there'll be a public vote as to which one gets hanged. Each day the public will be invited to email their favourite comic to denounce a neighbour, who'll then be escorted by a mob to the stockade. Denounce 50 paedophiles and meet the Queen Mum! Populism is a wonderful thing and internet voting is a great way to make it more efficient. You only need to read usenet to see that wise policy decisions would result from such a system. FoFP From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Mon Aug 14 11:47:04 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 17:47:04 +0200 Subject: HW:acid jam II Message-ID: Hello all, Please go to the Woronzon Page and click on the teaser from the "acid jam II" Now that's real Hawkwind.All the whooses and blibs,and furthermore Nick Salomon playing guitar.I don't know if any of you guys have ever seen BEVIS FROND. But I can tell you,that guy can REALLY play the guitar.Furthermore he's a very very nice guy,met him twice with Adrian Shaw and they are really GENTLEMEN!!!! That's it.I already collected some Bevis Frond but now I'm addicted. Funny as I founded last week the record "Any Gas Further" and it's really a gas. best wishes filip -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Aug 14 13:36:34 2000 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:36:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 Message-ID: Hi, just made a quick call to the Academy. The gig is on, the guy didn't know what line-up or anything was playing and the tickets should be on sale on wednesday. The Academy website has no info as yet about this. Morothead are playing a 25th anniversary gig entitled "25 years doesn't matter anymore" the next night! Nick From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Aug 14 14:13:28 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:13:28 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 Message-ID: A ten hour concert at Brixton? - no offence, but I didn't think Nik or his promotor had this sort of money - surely we're in the Brock camp here (or even better, maybe everyone's going to be there). That line-up date on that web site thing just has to be someone getting things a bit wrong don't you think? Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: David Greenhalgh To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 6:32 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 Is this DB or is it Nik? Surely we would have heard something if Dave was getting this together? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 8:29 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 > Mr Brock - if you're out there - I think it's time for a comment on this > perhaps - we'd all love to be the first to know rather than the last.. > Andy Garibaldi. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Crossley" > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 9:13 PM > Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 > > > > Watch for wrapped URL... > > > > http://www.wayahead.com/cgi-bin/aloud/search-details.pl?code=23489&s > > ub=&template=aloud/tickets-online > > > > Richard Crossley > > mailto:rdc at ntlworld.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Mon Aug 14 14:24:40 2000 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:24:40 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 In-Reply-To: <003301c00616$454d12a0$563ba8c2@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: Hi I think it is safe ( and logical ) to say that the Brixton Academy gig is most probably the final culmination of the 'Reunion, warm up' Gigs organised by Nik Turner. So I'd expect the line up to be Nik,Huw Lloyd Llangton,Thom Crimble,Terry Ollis + 'whoever' on keyboards/audio generator. Can't see Dave Brock being a willing participant if Niks organised it, but I hope I'm wrong on both counts. I feel certain Dave Brock has probably been invited to participate,but possibly his own personal pride is the one obstacle in the way of making an appearance. Come on Dave!.....You are the REAL Hero........We all want you there. Mel From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Mon Aug 14 14:28:41 2000 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:28:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 Message-ID: >just made a quick call to the Academy. The gig is on, the guy didn't know >what line-up or anything was playing and the tickets should be on sale on >wednesday. That's a relief - the Way Ahead box office web site claims that they're already sold out! DaveB From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Mon Aug 14 14:34:04 2000 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 19:34:04 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 Message-ID: >I think it is safe ( and logical ) to say that the Brixton Academy gig is >most probably the final culmination of the 'Reunion, warm up' Gigs >organised by Nik Turner. So I'd expect the line up to be >Nik,Huw Lloyd Llangton,Thom Crimble,Terry Ollis + 'whoever' on >keyboards/audio generator. Are you saying that it's coincidental that Motorhead's 25-year anniversary 'do' is the following night? My guess is that's it's the real thing - Dave, Lemmy etc. Or am I just being blindly optimistic here? DaveB From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Mon Aug 14 15:09:24 2000 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:09:24 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 In-Reply-To: <003d01c0061e$3d482e20$ba3b70c2@merlinas> Message-ID: Please believe me when I say that I hope I'm wrong. All I'm doing is, taking into account that the recent "reunion" gigs involving Nik,Huw etc were billed as 'warm up' gigs. So I'm presuming that Brixton is what they were warming up for. Dave Brock was definitely invited to take part in these, BUT he declined. Also there has been ZERO info on either the hawkwind.com or hawkwind network websites. (mind you.....past experience tells me that as far as any information (or lack of it) as far as HW is concerned.........it is far safer to take it with a pinch of salt) Mmmmmm.......so when they (Hawkwind) confirm something...........It usually doesn't happen. Therefore..........because they haven't told us...............................means it is happening!!!!????? I have just e-mailed a reliable source who should be able solve this mystery in one sentence. As soon as I get a reply I'll let everyone know. Mel From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Aug 14 15:28:18 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:28:18 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 Message-ID: One night, is that it? Is Dave Brock playing...if he isn't it's not Hawkwind. You can have Lemmy, Nik, Simon H, Simon K and all the others all together but without Dr Technical at the helm what's the point? In anticipation of a Dave participation where can I get a ticket? Dave -----Original Message----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 14 August 2000 19:15 Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 A ten hour concert at Brixton? - no offence, but I didn't think Nik or his promotor had this sort of money - surely we're in the Brock camp here (or even better, maybe everyone's going to be there). That line-up date on that web site thing just has to be someone getting things a bit wrong don't you think? Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: David Greenhalgh To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 6:32 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 Is this DB or is it Nik? Surely we would have heard something if Dave was getting this together? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 8:29 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 > Mr Brock - if you're out there - I think it's time for a comment on this > perhaps - we'd all love to be the first to know rather than the last.. > Andy Garibaldi. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Crossley" > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 9:13 PM > Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 > > > > Watch for wrapped URL... > > > > http://www.wayahead.com/cgi-bin/aloud/search-details.pl?code=23489&s > > ub=&template=aloud/tickets-online > > > > Richard Crossley > > mailto:rdc at ntlworld.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Aug 14 15:07:00 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:07:00 -0400 Subject: HW: SD'2K / Harvey Message-ID: Hi Folks... More formal reviews/photos to come... Top 10 Unusual Sights Witnessed (by me) at SD'2K... 10. Thom the World Poet's voice artificially echoing across the campground saying....Cannabis-cannabis-abis-bis-s-s-s Cafe-cafe-fe-fe-fe over and over again. 9. Skye Klad lead singer Billy Corgan (oops, I mean Adam Backstrom) saying coyly, "OK, who was it that was up screaming all night? I want to talk to you." 8. (Quarkspace guitarist) Stan Lyon's Dad waiting a full half-hour into their set until standing up and shouting 'SpaceRock!' 7. Galaxy Girl Arianna Power (performing with Dad in Born to Go) making silver lam? flowers (to match her dress) and passing them out to people in the audience. 6. Various members of Solar Confusion strolling around all afternoon in their stage garb (more silver lam? and exotic wigs), and at times badgering Harvey for some unknown reason. 5. Guitarist Melanie Fioritto of Trans-Lunar Express 'playing' guitar as a cat would work a scratching post (inverted). 4. Violinist Michele George performing with Einstein's Secret Orchestra in a colorful tight-fitting jester's outfit. 3. Driving through the town of Bainbridge, Ohio on the road between Cleveland and Nelson Ledges. 2. Bassist Moon (from Skye Klad) being led around to interview various unsuspecting soles on videocamera, while wearing the 'Jazzhorse.' (Wait for SD'2K photo gallery to appear at www.a-i.com to see what I mean.) 1. The northern lights making a late-night appearance over the Nelson horizon at 3-4 AM Saturday morning. (Actually, I missed this one....sadly.) Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Get Well, Doug W.! We missed you. From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 14 15:57:27 2000 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:57:27 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 In-Reply-To: <003d01c0061e$3d482e20$ba3b70c2@merlinas> Message-ID: At 19:34 14/08/00, David Bottomley wrote: >Are you saying that it's coincidental that Motorhead's 25-year anniversary >'do' is the following night? My guess is that's it's the real thing - Dave, >Lemmy etc. Or am I just being blindly optimistic here? Given the message from the Motorhead list that was posted here a week or two ago, it seems a safe bet that Lemmy will be playing at the HW gig. Dave. From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 14 15:58:53 2000 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 20:58:53 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 In-Reply-To: <003301c00616$454d12a0$563ba8c2@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: At 18:36 14/08/00, Nick Lee wrote: >just made a quick call to the Academy. Wow. Someone on BOC-L who actually checks facts! Good on yer. Dave. From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 14 16:04:11 2000 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:04:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 20:09 14/08/00, Melvyn Vincent wrote: >Dave Brock was definitely invited to take part in these, BUT he declined. At the time, he posted here to say that he hadn't received an invitation. I doubt that many people really know who said what to whom. Anyway, couldn't Nik et al be "warming up" to a reunion that included everyone else? Remember that Harvey and Nik (and Huw?) all played with Dave's HW last year. Dave. From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Mon Aug 14 17:25:17 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:25:17 -0500 Subject: HW: SD'2K / Harvey Message-ID: > Top 10 Unusual Sights Witnessed (by me) at SD'2K... What about the guy drinking that weird strawberry and alcohol concoction(he had like a gallon in a container), and I heard him screaming a-wuka-wuka-wuka-wukaaaaaaaa...... numerous times. That was probably the most unusual for me. Lot of familiar faces there again this year, great to see. Lots of good performances this year too, really all the bands that I saw did a fine job. Attendance seemed about like last year to me, I thought that was pretty good considering no brock or turner scheduled. From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Mon Aug 14 17:27:57 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:27:57 -0500 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 Message-ID: > Anyway, couldn't Nik et al be "warming up" to a reunion that included > everyone else? Remember that Harvey and Nik (and Huw?) all played with > Dave's HW last year. > I remember Harvey, but when did Nik and Huw play? Just curious, sorry I forgot. dan From shmucking at YAHOO.COM Mon Aug 14 17:46:03 2000 From: shmucking at YAHOO.COM (Ian Rosen) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 14:46:03 -0700 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 Message-ID: > Given the message from the Motorhead list that was > posted here a week or > two ago, it seems a safe bet that Lemmy will be > playing at the HW gig. > > Dave. This sounds like a dream gig. I'm gonna be there if I have to walk there on my elbows! Ian __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail ? Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Aug 14 17:24:53 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 22:24:53 +0100 Subject: all hawkwind/calvert fans please read this!!!!!!! Message-ID: Not quite the same price but it's in stock now with same day delivery at CD Services if anyone wants one. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "colm mcwilliams" To: Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 6:27 PM Subject: all hawkwind/calvert fans please read this!!!!!!! > hello there > > if anyones interested cdzone has this for sale: > > > Hawkwind Tales From Atom Henge 1 ?4.92 > > >+ Postage and Packing ?0.74 > Order Total ?5.66 > > >Payment has been charged to your card > > >Thank you for your order > > got mine today it rocks!!!! > > thought this cd was deleted? > > and for sale at ?4.92 what a bargain!! > > though it did take cd zone a month to send it to me > > anyway thought i would share this info with you > > the url is www.cdzone.co.uk > > > cheers > > colm > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Aug 14 17:53:15 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 17:53:15 -0400 Subject: OFF: ArcMet Message-ID: Hi Folks... One quick word that all ArcMet fans that weren't at SD'2K should note that they did up a big batch of CD-R's of their Quarkstock performance here in May, 2000 and were offering them for $12 (w/ full color cover art and nice label). I got one and it's as excellent as it was in person. A couple places were some static-y clicks got onto the tape somehow, but otherwise the recording and performance are the best I've heard from them. A fabulous 13-minute version of Kairos is on there, and their equally exciting 22-minute Echoes (PF cover obviously). And three or four new songs not on the other CDs. 57 minutes in total. Jerry didn't come home with any extras, so I imagine the way to go is to contact them directly. arcmet at yahoo.com is the place, innit? Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Did anyone else meet the guy Jeff (from Tiffin, OH?) who did the Space Cadet Elroy CD, playing almost all instruments and vocals? I listened to that last night and it's really quite good. There is a phone no. on the disc (three of them actually) but don't have any more info on the guy. I'll have to ring him up if no one else can tell me anything about him. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Aug 14 21:26:47 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:56:47 +0930 Subject: all hawkwind/calvert fans please read this!!!!!!! Message-ID: Hey Thanks Andy, I found a couple of other interesting items as well Cheers Michael Blackman ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 6:54 AM Subject: Re: all hawkwind/calvert fans please read this!!!!!!! > Not quite the same price but it's in stock now with same day delivery at CD > Services if anyone wants one. > Andy Garibaldi. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "colm mcwilliams" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 6:27 PM > Subject: all hawkwind/calvert fans please read this!!!!!!! > > > > hello there > > > > if anyones interested cdzone has this for sale: > > > > > Hawkwind Tales From Atom Henge 1 ?4.92 > > > > >+ Postage and Packing ?0.74 > > Order Total ?5.66 > > > > >Payment has been charged to your card > > > > >Thank you for your order > > > > got mine today it rocks!!!! > > > > thought this cd was deleted? > > > > and for sale at ?4.92 what a bargain!! > > > > though it did take cd zone a month to send it to me > > > > anyway thought i would share this info with you > > > > the url is www.cdzone.co.uk > > > > > > cheers > > > > colm > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Aug 14 21:39:51 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:09:51 +0930 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 Message-ID: Same here... I ony heard of there tour on the last night and hope to see them next year ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill & Cynthia To: Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 2:38 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steven De Lisle > To: > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 12:37 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy, London, 21/10/2000 > > > > Bill and Cynthia > > HW were in Sydney earlier this year. You missed em! (so did i .....sigh) > > I know - found that out when they left.(sob) They are coming back early next > year (I think) Hopefully it will be a national tour which includes Perth. If > not, I'll have to start saving the pennies. If they do comedown (and dont > cancel) I wont miss them this time. > > Bill > From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Tue Aug 15 00:33:07 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:33:07 -0500 Subject: HW: cdr chains Message-ID: The 12-08-90 cdr is ready to go. tracklist 1. Angels Of Death 2. Golden Void 3. Ejection 4. Wings 5. Out Of The Shadows 6. Snake Dance 7. Images 8. Refer Madness/Star Song 9. Tripping Trousers 10. Golden Void 11. Out Of The Shadows 12. Final Check tracks 1-8 12-08-90 Thirsty Whale, River's Grove, IL tracks 9-12 12-09-90 Shank Hall, Milwaukee, WI (soundcheck) total time 78:51 Sound quality is good, but not perfect, there is some audience noise and minor glitches. Anybody who wants it gets in. However you will need to be able to burn a 78:51 cdr for yourself, that is the only requirement. Anybody who is interested send me a PRIVATE email with your name, address, email address that I can post to the list. Subject of the email should read "12-08-00 chain". From the interested people I will make a chain, to the first link I will send a cdr with the wav files and artwork. Each link will copy the files to their hard drive and send the cdr to the next link, thus you don't need to the ability to copy audio cds. Each link should copy and mail out the cdr in a timely fashion, if you tend to put things off for weeks please don't sign up(nothing against you though). dan The 10-31-82 double cdr will be ready some time soon. From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Tue Aug 15 11:49:01 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 08:49:01 -0700 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 Message-ID: Nik was at Croydon, fairfield Halls winter 99, & Huwey at Blackheath Assembly Halls Summer 97. Dan Witt wrote: > > Anyway, couldn't Nik et al be "warming up" to a reunion that included > > everyone else? Remember that Harvey and Nik (and Huw?) all played with > > Dave's HW last year. > > > > I remember Harvey, but when did Nik and Huw play? Just curious, sorry I > forgot. > > dan From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Tue Aug 15 11:53:35 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 08:53:35 -0700 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 Message-ID: So he's being blackmailed or something? Not wise. Can any astrologers out there predict it? Not pride but timing I'd guess! Melvyn Vincent wrote: > Hi > > I think it is safe ( and logical ) to say that the Brixton Academy gig is > most probably the final culmination of the 'Reunion, warm up' Gigs > organised by Nik Turner. So I'd expect the line up to be > Nik,Huw Lloyd Llangton,Thom Crimble,Terry Ollis + 'whoever' on > keyboards/audio generator. > > Can't see Dave Brock being a willing participant if Niks organised it, but > I hope I'm wrong on both counts. I feel certain Dave Brock has probably > been invited to participate,but possibly his own personal pride is the one > obstacle in the way of making an appearance. > > Come on Dave!.....You are the REAL Hero........We all want you there. > > Mel From BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Tue Aug 15 12:12:04 2000 From: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:12:04 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: Your message to Sky News] Message-ID: [Message 042473 deleted by moderator at the author's request] From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Aug 15 04:38:44 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:38:44 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 In-Reply-To: <20000814214603.19374.qmail@web110.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: Here's another sighting: https://ticketing.ticketmaster.co.uk/cgi/asp_events/byid.asp?event_id=180031 0CC2FE3E35 The "Hawkestra" makes me think of Sun Ra's Arkestra... NB 8pm-6am, so no sleep till after the Motorhead gig... I'm trying to get the inside line on this... -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK Tue Aug 15 05:21:11 2000 From: robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK (Stuckey, Robert) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:21:11 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 14 Aug 2000 to 15 Aug 2000 (#2000-149) Message-ID: Hello Everyone, I just rejoined the list after a 3-year hiatus and what a time to rejoin!!! I'll be at the Brixton gig, and I may do the Stourbridge "event" as well. cheers - Rob Stuckey -- This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 15 05:58:59 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:58:59 +0100 Subject: Derby on 25th August Message-ID: Does anyone have the list of bands that are playing? Will Nik's Original Hawkwind be there? Cheers FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 15 06:05:12 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:05:12 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 14 Aug 2000 to 15 Aug 2000 (#2000-149) In-Reply-To: Stuckey, Robert's message of Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:21:11 +0100 Message-ID: Stuckey, Robert writes: > Hello Everyone, > > I just rejoined the list after a 3-year hiatus and > what a time to rejoin!!! I'll be at the Brixton gig, and > I may do the Stourbridge "event" as well. Welcome back Rob! What's happening at Stourbridge? FoFP From cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK Tue Aug 15 05:52:04 2000 From: cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:52:04 +0100 Subject: [Fwd: Your message to Sky News] Message-ID: Let's hear it for democracy: the tyranny of the majority!!!! ChrisW (Having a flashback!) > -----Original Message----- > From: M Holmes [mailto:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] > Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 3:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Fwd: Your message to Sky News] > > > > ----------- Your original message is below ---------- > > > > I think the myth of Royalty is past it's sell by date and > fully support > > the re-birth of a British republic where members of the > public can vote > > for key issues on the internet. People who dont have internet access > > could visit libraries and internet polling stations. > > > > Ben Fagin > > London > > I can see it now: we'll put two hundred paedophiles in a stockade > festooned with television cameras. Each day they'll have to select two > of their number and there'll be a public vote as to which one gets > hanged. Each day the public will be invited to email their favourite > comic to denounce a neighbour, who'll then be escorted by a mob to the > stockade. Denounce 50 paedophiles and meet the Queen Mum! > > Populism is a wonderful thing and internet voting is a great > way to make > it more efficient. You only need to read usenet to see that > wise policy > decisions would result from such a system. > > FoFP > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Tue Aug 15 15:24:51 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:24:51 -0700 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 Message-ID: Yes, Brixton say the tickets will be released later this week, and it IS HW. Andy Gilham wrote: > Here's another sighting: > > https://ticketing.ticketmaster.co.uk/cgi/asp_events/byid.asp?event_id=180031 > 0CC2FE3E35 > > The "Hawkestra" makes me think of Sun Ra's Arkestra... NB 8pm-6am, so no > sleep till after the Motorhead gig... > > I'm trying to get the inside line on this... > > -- Andy > > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Tue Aug 15 15:25:26 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:25:26 -0700 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 Message-ID: DB HW! Melvyn Vincent wrote: > Hi > > I think it is safe ( and logical ) to say that the Brixton Academy gig is > most probably the final culmination of the 'Reunion, warm up' Gigs > organised by Nik Turner. So I'd expect the line up to be > Nik,Huw Lloyd Llangton,Thom Crimble,Terry Ollis + 'whoever' on > keyboards/audio generator. > > Can't see Dave Brock being a willing participant if Niks organised it, but > I hope I'm wrong on both counts. I feel certain Dave Brock has probably > been invited to participate,but possibly his own personal pride is the one > obstacle in the way of making an appearance. > > Come on Dave!.....You are the REAL Hero........We all want you there. > > Mel From novadrive at HOME.COM Tue Aug 15 10:32:40 2000 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 07:32:40 -0700 Subject: HW: SD'2K / Harvey Message-ID: I still miss the Militant Nudist On Acid from '97..... Or not. Kevin Sommers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Witt" To: Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 2:25 PM Subject: Re: HW: SD'2K / Harvey > > Top 10 Unusual Sights Witnessed (by me) at SD'2K... > From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Tue Aug 15 10:34:12 2000 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:34:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 In-Reply-To: <39999926.E4A37B45@netscapeonline.co.uk> Message-ID: Well it is time for me to consume a large helping of humble pie!!!! And put all my (our) doubting mind at rest. I am PROUD to confirm my instincts were 100% wrong. The Brixton Gig IS THE REAL THING! Watch press for details. From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Tue Aug 15 11:30:17 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 08:30:17 -0700 Subject: Stairway to the Stars? Was: BOC: HW: Apold info on Moorcock track s Message-ID: Which reminds me of a story I was going to post to the list... (hey, its a chance for some actual BOC content, ok? :) I'm terrible at remembering years so lets just say that it was around the time when Joe was still in the band, Al was gone (I forget who the drummer was at the time.. Downey?) and BOC was still a big enough name that they had to be billed as Soft White Underbelly in order to play at smaller clubs so as not to attract too large of a crowd I suppose. (In the several times that they played the same club in later years, they were billed as plain ol' BOC, presumably because there was not much concern at drawing an unmanagable crowd). Anyway.. Having been a huge fan since the tender age of 14 or so (circa 1974), a friend and I waited out back for the boys to come out, hoping for a chance to meet them. My friend had brought every BOC LP with him, hoping to get them all autographed. I was very excited. I mean, when I was 15, I wanted to BE these guys. I was oh, 28 or 30 at this time, 25 at the youngest so my sense of worship was, of course, not what it was in, say, 1976, But I was still thrilled to death to meet them at last. First out the door was Joe.. He was great, friendly, signed each BOC LP my friend had brought with good humor, commenting on how cool it was that my friend Steve had brought every single album. Lanier, also friendly though we didn't get him to sign, I don't recall if he declined or what. Everyone pretty much ignored the drummer (would have been very different if it had been Al.. This was the first I'd heard of him not being in BOC anymore..). Buck was amazing, showing incredible patience with all the fans, smiling and answering questions, signing everything put in front of him. In fact, the rest of the band was already in their rented buick, shouting "Buck, we gotta go!" a good 20 minutes after they came out, Buck wouldn't snub anyone by walking away. Last out was Eric. He blew by everyone, not openly hostile but not exactly friendly either. Ok, I had seen this guy on stage more than anyone I knew, I practically worshiped the guy when I was a kid.. I mean, to me, he was the voice of BOC and the most interesting member aside from Buck. I am also a huge Moorcock fan and my first thought was, I wanted to know about his relationship with Mr. Moorcock. I wanted to ask if the Fireclown character was based on him (see the FAQ, its my claim to FAQ fame, I submitted that bit.. haha). So I walk up to him as he's yelling at Buck to hurry the hell up and say, "Hi there, say, how well do you know Michael Moorcock?" His reply? "Yeah, I know him" then he proceeds to turn his back on me and get in his car, effectively ending the conversation. I was dumbfounded. Could it really be true that one of my biggest rock heroes was in fact, an asshole? I understand that he may have been tired, he may have had a bad night, maybe someone pissed him off earlier but people like him need to remember just who it was that got them where they are. I mean, he totally snubbed me. I was no starry eyed Fan Boy, I was a grown man, only about 10 or less years younger than himself with questions about his work. Maybe I pissed him off by seeming more interested in Moorcock than in him. Perhaps I was.. I didn't mean to bruise his ego. Regardless, I'll never forget the incident. It really opened my eyes as to the fact that so-called Stars can be assholes just like anyone else. Stairway to the stars, indeed! Years later, when I learned (mostly through reading this list) that the man has a reputation for being hard to get along with, I could only nod to myself. Yep. In his defense, I did meet him a 2nd time at a New Years Eve show a few years ago. This time he was more friendly (though still a little offish), even putting up with my wife hugging him and gushing over him a little (she was quite drunk and has been a fan as long as I have.. Our first date was a 1975 BOC show..). But I still can't forget that earlier time. Anyway, sorry for being long winded, I've wanted to post this story for a long time. JB From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 15 11:55:55 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 11:55:55 EDT Subject: Stairway to the Stars? Was: BOC: HW: Apold info on Moorcock track s In-Reply-To: <4973895A322CD411A6B000A0C96E9611207356@C2> Message-ID: On 15 Aug 00, at 8:30, Joseph Brooks wrote: > > His reply? "Yeah, I know him" then he proceeds to turn his back on me > and get in his car, effectively ending the conversation. I was > dumbfounded. Could it really be true that one of my biggest rock > heroes was in fact, an asshole? > Ask Deb Frost! > In his defense, I did meet him a 2nd time at a New Years Eve show a > few years ago. This time he was more friendly (though still a little > offish), even putting up with my wife hugging him and gushing over him > a little (she was quite drunk and has been a fan as long as I have.. > Our first date was a 1975 BOC show..). But I still can't forget that > earlier time. > I only talked to EB once. I was pretty drunk and raving about how great he and BOC are. He was pretty friendly [for EB] though not as nice as BD, who, predictably, was very gracious... theo > Anyway, sorry for being long winded, I've wanted to post this story > for a long time. > > JB From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Tue Aug 15 12:01:23 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:01:23 -0400 Subject: Free Concert 9/7/00 Message-ID: Hi everyone...What a great and wonderful trip the last 4 months have been, beginning with the second Sloterdijk tour of europe, the release of the new cd, a northeast coast stint here in the states, with two wonderful shows as part of "The Traveling Outerspace Spectacular", featuring Harvey Bainbridge, The Solar-Fire Lightshow and more... It has been a hell of a ride, and lots of fun.. Thanks to all who were involved in any of this, in any capacity..Things don't happen without people, so thanks to all the people!!!!!!! Now, here is some info regarding the next confirmed Sloterdijk related show: This will be an acoustic concert, and it's FREE and open to the public!!! We will be playing an assortment of material by artists such as Hawkwind, Marc Bolan, Ian Hunter, etc, as well as British and American traditionals and originals..Join us for an evening in the park...Bring assorted hand held percussion if you like! Mike Burro & Jay Adcock of SLOTERDIJK Thursday, September 7, 2000 Mario Lanza Park located on the 200 block of Queen St. Philadelphia PA Starting time: 7:30 PM info line: Gail Chapman (215) 922-1829 http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Aug 15 13:17:24 2000 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 18:17:24 +0100 Subject: Derby on 25th August Message-ID: Playing where (apart from Derby, of course) and at what and with who? Sorry, first I've heard of Derby on 25th Aug. Nick -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 15 August 2000 11:01 Subject: Derby on 25th August >Does anyone have the list of bands that are playing? Will Nik's Original >Hawkwind be there? > >Cheers > > >FoFP > From slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK Tue Aug 15 14:22:00 2000 From: slitchfield at UKONLINE.CO.UK (Steve Litchfield) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 19:22:00 +0100 Subject: More Simon 8-) Message-ID: Just to say I've added half a dozen more rare photos and sound clips of Simon King to my HW page, together with an Accolades (for Simon, not me!) section. http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind Steve From Kilgorechi at AOL.COM Tue Aug 15 15:29:59 2000 From: Kilgorechi at AOL.COM (Carol Ann Kilgore) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:29:59 EDT Subject: More Simon 8-) Message-ID: Steve, I think you have outdone yourself this time!!! Outstanding job! Where in the world did you find the picture of Turbo??? That is absolutely wonderful. I've passed your messages on to Simon, he will be out of town for 3-5 days but hopefully he will find a moment here or there to respond. I would love to know about Turbo too . The accolades section is unbelievable, if he doesn't go away from reading those tributes feeling on top of the world...he isn't reading them!! Thank you a thousand times over. I really liked your addition of the signed picture well done!! Sorry to be so quiet lately...I've been following the BOC and passing on the odd tidbit here and there...and what with live in general I spend most of my time reading..hehe. I hope this finds you and your lovely family well and happy. What milestones has Rachel zoomed through since I last heard from you....she was toddling along surprising you with her speaking ability and walking last I heard. There are so many new breakthroughs each day at this age, you feel like you are watching the life cycle of a firefly!! Give her a big hug and tell her she must reciprocate to you for me!! Hopefully I'll have something for you before too long. Take care, Carol Ann From nick at NETPHD.NET Tue Aug 15 17:03:51 2000 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:03:51 -0400 Subject: Stairway to the Stars? Was: BOC: HW: Apold info on Moorcock track s In-Reply-To: <200008151556.LAA26599@syr.edu> Message-ID: I had a pretty similar experience about five years ago. Buck and Allen were super guys. Danny and the drummer (It was John Reilly/O'Reilly) were also incredibly friendly and appreciative. I was surprised about Danny. He looked like kind of a jerk on stage to me. Boy, was I wrong! But Eric was more concerned with getting out of the club and back on the road than chatting with anyone. He definitely had that "Don't approach me" air. I don't think he thinks he's too above the fans. I just believe that, as good as he is working a crowd from the stage, he's just not a people person in the face-to-face sense. I met Joe separately, during a Cult Brothers show in the late 80s or early 90s. He was also a gem. I've never met Al. --Nick From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Aug 15 18:37:23 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 23:37:23 +0100 Subject: OFF: Review: Canterbury Sound Festival 2000 (Man, Arthur Brown, Gong, etc) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dear All, this is Bcc'd to two mailing lists to avoid cross-posted responses, so Carl and Anna are only the obvious recipients - hullo you two. This was written offline as part of something else so forgive occasional context failures. Now... On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Radio Gnome Invisible wrote: > Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:25:43 GMT > From: Radio Gnome Invisible > To: rocksoc-chat at chiark.greenend.org.uk > Subject: review: cropredy 2000 > > Cropredy Music Festival 2000 > > This is the first time I have been to Cropredy, so I decided to write a > review for you lot (since Carl's not here to write his essays :). Dammit, I knew there was something I was supposed to be doing to make up for Carl's absence other than insist on Hawkwind at WUS (yes, I know, I should be there, but it's wet out and my bike's broken and I'm far too tired to enjoy it). So, without further ado, here is a review of the first ever Canterbury Sound Festival, with bonus headings so you can skip the bits you're less interested in if need be... (ambience) The place it was being held at was called Mount Ephraim Gardens, just up the road from Canterbury, a stately-home-type garden I believe, certainly it had permanent toilets so they must have regular vistors (no pun intended). The weather was lovely, and the place itself is also beautiful, an old piece of landscaping with lots of trees all still looked after, and by someone not bothered about a lot of hippies sprawling on his land either, a true rarity. We had dawdled somewhat and the City Blues Band, whoever they may have been, had already finished, but the person running the PA had fine taste in incidental music although there was quite a lot of folky stuff and _far_ too much on very old crackly vinyl. Nonetheless, sat under a tree drinking Shepherd Neame and listening to old psych in the sun is a damn pleasant way to idle away a spare half hour. As we waited more and more people arrived, and it became clear rapidly from the queues for food that the organisers had massively under-estimated the attendance. They'd only sold a third of their tickets in advance apparently so that can be forgiven, and although people did have to wait a long time not much actually ran out and I didn't see anyone complaining. It was probably too cool to be complaining. (Rubber Biscuit) Because everyone was so chilled, the first band on, Rubber Biscuit ("all the way from Whitstable"), who had a thing about getting people dancing, had a thin time of it. They achieved only three people dancing throughout their set, which was unfair because as far as bands that clearly want to be The Commitments go they weren't bad. They even had some original material, though the best things they did were covers, from people as diverse as James Brown and The Divine Comedy. Nonetheless, when they'd all (three singers, four brass-players, piano-player, guitarist, bass-player, drummer) left the stage I felt things might be a bit more promising. Not bad, but 11 people dressed in black have little to do with that sort of day. (Man) A short gap ensued and then Man arrived. Deke Leonard (guitar, vocals) was wearing black too but we'll let him off as he was playing damn well. In fact, they were all on form, even if Martin (bass, vocals) Ace's Hawaiian shirt should have been burnt on the loom, and Mickey Jones (lead guitar, vocals) was stratospheric. A developing trend was emerging however, in that none of the bands from here on were playing with the line-up you would have expected: keyboardist Phil Ryan was looking after his sick wife and one Gareth Torrington was standing in, on a Yamaha which gave them an unusually up-to-date soundscape to play over. They opened with `Ride and the View', as I'd kind of expected, and were thus off to a flying start. It cannot be stressed enough how professional Man are these days - they do not disappoint. With the song ended Martin took the mike and as always his patter was worth the recording: "Well, here we are in the Garden of England, where all the rich people live... What you laughin' at, you rich bastards? You're adjacent to a Third World country and it's called Wales... Still, you'll have heard we're getting our own Stock Exchange now - the Dai Jones index." The rest of the set went pretty much straight on from there, with `C'mon' following, and then as Martin told us a track from the new album, which was called `Stuck Behind the Popemobile', which wasn't too bad though as far as I'm concerned their song-writing hasn't matured with their playing. `Why Am I So Lonely' is another case in point, though a rather better song - both are two songs inadequately fitted together with choruses that don't belong with the verses either musically or lyrically. But they were played very well. And they ended with a masterpiece version of `Many Are Called But Few Get Up' which suddenly changed into an equally beautiful `The Storm' just before the end and then returned to itself to finish up with the parent song's blistering drum explosion. And that was it, but it was pretty good. (Arthur Brown) Next up was Arthur Brown, and that was something. I had no idea what to expect since I'm only dimly aware even of `Fire', but anyone expecting The Crazy World was rapidly informed otherwise by the band, who were three, playing a variety of percussion, a cellist and one playing mandolin, steel guitar or violin. And of course there's Mr. Brown himself. I'd never seen him before, so I was struck by the following things that may be obvious to the afficionado: (i) his gaunt height - he seemed about seven foot on stage and he wasn't standing on anything extra; (ii) his vocal range, which is even taller, damn near pitch-perfect all the way and exceptionally loud and clear and (iii) his TV-evangelist stage presence. He was all round exceptional. The band made everything sound distinctly otherworldly and suited his style very well. The set-list included some new things which I can only guess the titles of, but otherwise I can piece it together from a discography, and it went: Hard Rain Gonna Fall (this was excellent) I Put a Spell On You (he had the entire audience in his hand for this, it was quite literally spell-binding. he did suggest that aome of us might like to dance after that but he was sensible enough not to push it and followed it with a sudden flash of Laurel and Hardy) Love is (the Spirit that Will Never Die) Tantric Lover (quirkily different to the previous one) ?Bridge Across the River of Your Dreams (including pretending to strum strings on the arm of the video camera, and a short extemporised poem about it) Come And Buy Prelude - Nightmare (I think - he ended by shouting "I AM-" and the stopping and remarking idly how it was a very powerful position to have the audience waiting for just one song, and pretending to lie down and go to sleep, before finally relenting and brushing the camera aside with, "Out of my way, mortal!") Fire (this was of course excellent, even with the odd instrumentation, in fact because of it, but he went to an extreme making an old number interesting by taking a radio mike and coming out into the audience, letting a few people yell `Fire' for him and finally getting right up to the top of the field and discoursing idly about how nice it was to sit on the grass and ignore the band - "but then again, I'm supposed to be performing". He had us eating out of his hand: I could suddenly understand how the Pied Piper of Hamlyn did it and the parallel was inescapable when he ran back down the hill with five kids following him - he ran all the way up and back, where he got the breath to sing from I don't know) (A sort of poem about how love, or more specifically sex, in this plastic age of make-up and gyms and callisthenics, isn't what it used to be - rather funny) ?That's How Strong My Love Is So, as you may understand, people were leaving after that because it couldn't be topped. They were wrong, but never mind, I could see their point. It was one of a hell of a show. (Colosseum) After some more music there followed Colosseum. About this lot I only knew that they were jazz-rock, and though they had some astonishing players, the drummer and the saxophonist standing out for impressive soloes (the latter on two saxophones), they were basically trad stuff and didn't draw me in. I was reared on trad jazz as far as I was raised on anything but classical, and I suspect this lot suffered from the early Led Zeppelin problem - you know, it's very good, but no-one who knows _real_ blues is ever going to consider more than a pale imitation (no pun intended - well, maybe just the one). (Gong) However, then there came the ones I'd really come to see, the mighty and extremely silly Gong. I could talk lots about Gong by way of background but it would be uninteresting to most so I shall just rave a bit. Gong's line-up is always unpredictable: this time it was the three essentials, Daevid Allen on guitar and vocals, he having accepted that he has gone completely white (which with as much hair as he has is impressive) and wearing a white jumpsuit with orange reflective arm-rings, Gilli Smyth on space whisper vocals and Mike Howlett on bass (he's shrunk! Seriously! and gone grey suddenly. Still plays like a maniac though), with extras being Gwyo le Pix of Zorch on keyboards, Theo Travis on saxophone, and Chris Taylor on drums. Chris was very good, Daevid was electric - I hadn't realised he was entirely capable of playing lead as well as rhythm and gliss, and Theo was less good than I expected, most of the sax noise being apparently Didier Malherbe on tape, though my companion insisted it was being played off the keyboards [I was later advised that in fact it was all being done off the keyboards, which apart from anything else had a mouth control for the dynamics - that must be fucking difficult to do!]. But Gilli impressed me most. I saw her with Glo in '97 and then she struck me as no more than a shambling hippy crone. The CD I have from 94 also seemed to indicate a fairly weak performance was to be expected. But she's lost a lot of weight, toned up and she had it together big-time - she still spouts a lot of very dubious stuff but her witch's cackle was genuinely frightening and I was shocked into adoring her without further ado. Like seeing Nik with Hawkwind for the first time,I suddenly got the idea of what she was supposed to add. In fact, a lot of things started making sense to me in strange ways as the set went on... Daevid was on front-man form too, with pseudo-French accent and strangenesses. The set was short, and they came on to a scrambled Francophone radio intro and started up with something I didn't know, may have been off the new album. Then, after an introduction from Daevid, it was off into the old stuff - `Radio Gnome Invisible', which was good, something else I didn't recognise but which I suspect was `Givin' my Luv to You' [possibly `Magdalene'?], and then a marvellous `Zero the Hero and the Witch's Spell', followed by an equally good `I Am Your Pussy' which was when I suddenly `got' Gilli, and then a nice combination of a beginning of `Isle of Everywhere', lots of very low other-wordly but with Gong behind her Gilli sounds more convincing, and then it wandered into the chant that precedes the glorious Om Riff. I should have realised what was going on, I'd have been incredibly excited as it built up, as it was I was very nicely chilled when I suddenly picked up the bass part and realised what was about to happen as the band crashed into the riff. I don't know how long they actually played the Om Riff, ten minutes, maybe less even, but I had to dance to all of it, actually dance or as close as I get, this having only been documented three times before. And I remember very clearly noticing that after they had all left the tune and were improvising wildly that the Riff was *still there*, in the spaces left. I can't imagine that could actually have been so, that is, that they were playing around the riff, I think it must have just been driven into my head but even knowing this I could still anti-hear it. The title became meaningful to me now. I was on Planet Gong for the first time and most reluctant to come back. They're playing Cambridge in November and everyone I can get to go is coming, all right? (Caravan) In a way this wasn't really fair on Caravan, as they'd organised the festival, but many more people left after Gong and Caravan had a much smaller crowd to play to. They were I think pretty good, although I knew none of their stuff, a sort of extra-large (two drummers, violinist, two guitarists and a bass player and keyboard player, on an organ like Ray Manzarek used to use, sort of little thing in a box with a very narrow keyboard) Jethro Tull with violin instead of flute. But I was too far away to enjoy it fully, being still very much on the Planet Gong. We went before they had finished, got Chinese and stayed up debating whether or not Porcupine Tree have lost it. What strikes me most is that there was no police presence, and no pressure to finish up on time - Caravan must have been on track for over-running by half-an-hour or more - and that everything was so peaceful. It was great. I shall be there again next year and hell, as long as they can do it. I hope they bring in some newer bands rather than _just_ sticking to the veterans like that, but no complaints from me for doing so the first time. Yeah baby. Yours all, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | ======================================================================| | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Tue Aug 15 20:29:30 2000 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:29:30 EDT Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 Message-ID: Is BROCK there?????? Anyone???????????? Rregards, Bill From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Aug 15 20:39:55 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:39:55 -0400 Subject: OFF: ArcMet In-Reply-To: <200008142258.SAA10428@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu>; from henderson.120@OSU.EDU on Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 05:53:15PM -0400 Message-ID: This reminds me: Steve (Lindsey, not Swann, so I guess it's not his fault :-) and I both thought we heard Deb Young imply that she was leaving the band -- "thanks for making my last gig such a good one" or words to that effect. Now, neither of us is sure we heard correctly, but since both of us think we might have heard this... I sure hope she's not leaving!, but if she is, what's the story? On Mon, Aug 14, 2000 at 05:53:15PM -0400, K Henderson wrote: > Hi Folks... > > One quick word that all ArcMet fans that weren't at SD'2K should note that > they did up a big batch of CD-R's of their Quarkstock performance here in > May, 2000 and were offering them for $12 (w/ full color cover art and nice > label). I got one and it's as excellent as it was in person. A couple > places were some static-y clicks got onto the tape somehow, but otherwise > the recording and performance are the best I've heard from them. > > A fabulous 13-minute version of Kairos is on there, and their equally > exciting 22-minute Echoes (PF cover obviously). And three or four new songs > not on the other CDs. 57 minutes in total. > > Jerry didn't come home with any extras, so I imagine the way to go is to > contact them directly. arcmet at yahoo.com is the place, innit? > > Grakkl (FAA) > > P.S. Did anyone else meet the guy Jeff (from Tiffin, OH?) who did the Space > Cadet Elroy CD, playing almost all instruments and vocals? I listened to > that last night and it's really quite good. There is a phone no. on the > disc (three of them actually) but don't have any more info on the guy. I'll > have to ring him up if no one else can tell me anything about him. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / [Microsoft's] www.hotmail.com is running Apache/1.3.6 (Unix) ... on FreeBSD - Netcraft's "What's that site running?" service, 12-Jun-2000 From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Aug 16 01:18:38 2000 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 01:18:38 EDT Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 Message-ID: Who's runnin this show anyway???? Is DS involved????? If DS is involved, and Brocky aint, Lemster should be ashamed of himself !! CUNT!!!!!!!!!! From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Aug 16 03:09:02 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 08:09:02 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 Message-ID: > Who's runnin this show anyway???? Is DS involved????? If DS is involved, and > Brocky aint, Lemster should be ashamed of himself !! CUNT!!!!!!!!!! Now now Bill, no sitting on the fence here. Spit it out and say what you really mean... Cheers, Rich. ObCD: The Bristols - Introducing... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK Wed Aug 16 05:02:20 2000 From: cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:02:20 +0100 Subject: Off: Welcome back Message-ID: Just like it sez in the title. All lost sheep welcomed home *g* ChrisW ObCD: Bert Jansch - Crimson Moon > -----Original Message----- > From: Stuckey, Robert [mailto:robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK] > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 10:21 AM > Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 14 Aug 2000 to 15 Aug 2000 (#2000-149) > > > Hello Everyone, > > I just rejoined the list after a 3-year hiatus and > what a time to rejoin!!! 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URL: From cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK Wed Aug 16 05:21:01 2000 From: cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:21:01 +0100 Subject: Review: Canterbury Sound Festival 2000 (Man, Arthur Brown, Go ng, etc) Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon Jarrett [mailto:jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK] > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 11:37 PM > Subject: OFF: Review: Canterbury Sound Festival 2000 (Man, > Arthur Brown, > Gong, etc) All snipped for brevity.... Thanks Jon, a great word-picture of what sounds like a wonderful day - I wanted to be there myself, but having just started work up here in Scotland.... A little more about Colosseum & Caravan and what they played would have been very welcome to this old crow who's a long-time fan of both bands, but I guess I can't expect TOO much from young whippersnappers!!!!! 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Seeing more than 3 space-rock fans w/in a 1-yard radius... 6. Being offered acid for the first time in 12 years 7. Drinking 18 beers in one day 8. Finding the ever-sought Paralle Universe in Bum-fuck, Ohio. 9. Sleeping in my car surrounded by camping BOC-L members in tents 10. Realizing that Harvey Baindridge is the Master of the Universe ...hmmm...what did I miss? Chuck PS: Keith--listened to your Neu!-Wave disc repetitively on the way home--excellent! From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Wed Aug 16 06:58:13 2000 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 11:58:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes!!!!!!!!! Brock is there! Didn't you read my posting?????? From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Wed Aug 16 07:02:21 2000 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:02:21 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 In-Reply-To: <63.9d6706c.26cb7e2e@aol.com> Message-ID: I've said once and I'll say it again. My info came from a reliable source which I will not disclose. It is the REAL REUNION. Brock,Lemmy,Nik,Simon,Tim and all! From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Wed Aug 16 07:21:05 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:21:05 +0100 Subject: HW: Record Mart & Buyer Message-ID: There's a full page on free festivals but more importantly the fan profile is an a certain Mr Tawn. Full page on Hawkfan with a few piccies. Stuart http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - Scotlands leading on-line dealer in previously loved records Distributor of Stone Premonitions and Elastic Fiction Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Aug 16 08:56:51 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:56:51 +0100 Subject: Review: Canterbury Sound Festival 2000 (Man, Arthur Brown, Go ng, etc) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Chris Warburton wrote: > A little more about Colosseum & Caravan and what they played would have been > very welcome to this old crow who's a long-time fan of both bands, but I > guess I can't expect TOO much from young whippersnappers!!!!! First I knew of either band, I'm afraid, so I couldn't provide many details. I know that Colosseum had a massive sound-check performed largely by the drummer which later transpired to be his solo, almost blow-for-blow, and that the saxohonist made a damn good show of playing treble and tenor saxes together in his. The drummer introduced all the band at the end of their set and finished of with, "And I'm just the drummer..." Caravan were missing their regular drummer and had someone else in who was introduced, as far as I could tell purely because of his hat, as Captain Beefheart... They opened with `Liar', which they told us a lot about, and were the only band to get any benefit from the lights, which weren't terribly good, but still. They looked a lot more like a professional act as a result (Gong having looked rather more like a circus - Continental of course). But seeing as we were, well, full, and had a lift waiting we didn't stay out their set. I think they'd have been wise to have Gong on last, really. Now, that really is all I can tell you :-) Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | ======================================================================| | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Aug 16 09:30:19 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:30:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Melvyn Vincent wrote: > I've said once and I'll say it again. > My info came from a reliable source which I will not disclose. > It is the REAL REUNION. > Brock,Lemmy,Nik,Simon,Tim and all! Look, don't take this the wrong way, but four or five "reliable sources" have been quoted by various people about this reunion before now and none of those gigs happened. If you won't name your source the value of your information is not apparently any better than theirs. If the Academy are selling tickets then I guess something's happening, and given the title of the Motorhead gig then I guess Lemmy might be involved. But as for the rest of it, I'm loth to believe anyone knows who's finally going to be there. Except I imagine Nik will make it. But I guess I'm buying tickets anyway... Yours, Jon P.S. The Academy website has still got gigs from July up as forthcoming, and Ticketweb only knows of the Motorhead gig, as of checking five minutes ago. -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | ======================================================================| | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Wed Aug 16 11:26:21 2000 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:26:21 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: -----------------Original Message------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 18:17:24 +0100 From: Nick Lee Subject: Re: Derby on 25th August Playing where (apart from Derby, of course) and at what and with who? Sorry, first I've heard of Derby on 25th Aug. Nick ------------------------------------------------------------- The only event I'm aware of on Friday 25th August is ours !! The Victoria Midland Place Derby (30 seconds from Derby Railway Station) couple of squids on the door to cover costs. (That's 2.00UKP for non-english readers) Dr Hasbeen Spacehead Special guests The Time Brothers An evening of Spacerock and Beer Swilling. Kick off at Around 7.00pm, bar until 1.00am Hopefully a massive attendance !!! Mark (Hasbeen) mark at esparto.uk.com mark.p.lee at genie.co.uk mark.p.lee at sms.genie.co.uk (to cellphone) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ END MESSAGE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 16 12:14:07 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:14:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 In-Reply-To: Melvyn Vincent's message of Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:02:21 +0100 Message-ID: Melvyn Vincent writes: > I've said once and I'll say it again. > My info came from a reliable source which I will not disclose. > It is the REAL REUNION. > Brock,Lemmy,Nik,Simon,Tim and all! Oh, all right then. I'll go. What's their damn phone number? FoFP From stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM Wed Aug 16 12:25:53 2000 From: stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:25:53 -0400 Subject: No subject Message-ID: So did anyone have any luck trying the academy today ? I've got my sister on the case, but she said they are reporting: "they're on the system", they're not on sale yet" Any update on an on-sale date ? Cheers Steve L From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Aug 16 12:48:41 2000 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:48:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 Message-ID: It turns out that the number I rang believing to be the Academy was actually TicketWeb. The operator I spoke to today was aware of the gig (it was on the system, or whatever) but couldn't tell me when tickets would be available. He said to try ringing back in acouple of days. Again, he was of no help about line-ups or anything else about the bill. I'm of the opinion that it will be a Brockwind gig. It seems fairly possible that a reunion with Lemmy may have been negotiated during his recent stay here for the Derby & Guilford gigs. Just an opinion mind and no mysterious reputable sources... Nick From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Wed Aug 16 12:58:29 2000 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:58:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Message-ID: >So did anyone have any luck trying the academy today ? >I've got my sister on the case, but she said they are reporting: >"they're on the system", they're not on sale yet" >Any update on an on-sale date ? > >Cheers >Steve L I tried around 4pm & was told that they're not yet on sale & to keep trying "every couple of days". Helpful....... DaveB From robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK Wed Aug 16 15:09:57 2000 From: robert.stuckey at WCOM.CO.UK (Stuckey, Robert) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:09:57 +0100 Subject: Stourbridge Message-ID: > >Welcome back Rob! What's happening at Stourbridge? > >FoFP > Hi Mike, Well, according to WWW.HAWKWIND.COM:- Running from 12 noon to 12 midnight on September 30th, this all-dayer features a line-up of Nik Turner, Alan Davey, Harvey Bainbridge, Danny Thompson and Judge Trev, with support from Bedouin and another set from Harvey. Stalls, exhibitions, etc, too! At the Rock Cafe 2000, Stourbridge, (telephone 01384 390918). Don't tell me it hasn't been on the list? cheers - Rob -- This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s), please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately and then destroy any copies of it. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Aug 16 16:27:21 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:27:21 -0400 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 In-Reply-To: ; from Andy.Gilham@BTINTERNET.COM on Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 09:38:44AM +0100 Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 09:38:44AM +0100, Andy Gilham wrote: > Here's another sighting: > > https://ticketing.ticketmaster.co.uk/cgi/asp_events/byid.asp?event_id=180031 > 0CC2FE3E35 This looks like the winner! I just bought two tickets through Ticketmaster (I have a printed-out confirmation page and everything :-) I'm not sure about the quoted URL though; it worked better for me when I just went to their home page -- http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk -- and searched for "hawkwind". Next on the agenda: vacation time, plane tickets, what the *$@! else am I going to do in England for long enough to make a real vacation out of it, ... Good luck, everyone! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft -- but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft. - Chris Garrigues From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 16 17:22:52 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 22:22:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 Message-ID: Look - speculation is going to drive you all mad and you're going to start saying things that some of you are going to regret, believe me. Look at it straight - there's an EVENT. It's got Hawkwind's name attached to it. Hawkwind is copyrighted. Nik can't call himself Hawkwind just as it stands. The EVENT lasts 10 hours; it's an all-nighter. It's billed as Hawkwind - noone else. Strangely, to you, no-one is saying anything about it from those that know, which implies that somone is waiting for something to happen. This all just so happens to come at a time when NEW albums are due from Brock and Hawkwind (I know because the Brock one is phenomenal!!!) and Hawkwind are plastered all over the TV on a car advert. To me it seems a tad obvious, but let's wait and see - be excited by the prospect, not disillusioned - you know it makes sense. Andy Garibaldi (putting two and two together and, for once, making four) (Oh yes.... and Melvin......you need say no more, old chap - let things take their course!!!!) soon.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Stewart" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 6:18 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 > Who's runnin this show anyway???? Is DS involved????? If DS is involved, and > Brocky aint, Lemster should be ashamed of himself !! CUNT!!!!!!!!!! From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 16 17:44:42 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 22:44:42 +0100 Subject: OFF: Review: Canterbury Sound Festival 2000 (Man, Arthur Brown, Gong, etc) Message-ID: Hi Jon, Don't know if you're into psychedelic trance style stuff, done with a distinct Gong like feel, but if you've not heard Gilli's two projects in the form of the CD's by Glo and Goddess Trance, you really are missing out big time - fantastic albums. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Jarrett" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 11:37 PM Subject: OFF: Review: Canterbury Sound Festival 2000 (Man, Arthur Brown, Gong, etc) From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Wed Aug 16 17:54:41 2000 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 22:54:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 In-Reply-To: <004401c007c8$7765fc80$2c0abc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: Cheers Andy!!!!!!! In a nut shell.......................as always. Here's to the glorious 21st !!!!!!!!!!!!! (October that is). Melvyn From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Aug 16 18:27:41 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 23:27:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 In-Reply-To: <20000816162720.A3373@telepres.com> Message-ID: Yes, I booked two as well. (Largely to see what if anything shows up, as I can probably blag a ticket if needs be! ;) The other Andy is as close to spot-on as I can confirm at this time. Expect official news at any moment. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Eric Siegerman > Sent: 16 August 2000 21:27 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 > > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 09:38:44AM +0100, Andy Gilham wrote: > > Here's another sighting: > > > > > https://ticketing.ticketmaster.co.uk/cgi/asp_events/byid.asp?event _id=180031 > 0CC2FE3E35 This looks like the winner! I just bought two tickets through Ticketmaster (I have a printed-out confirmation page and everything :-) I'm not sure about the quoted URL though; it worked better for me when I just went to their home page -- http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk -- and searched for "hawkwind". Next on the agenda: vacation time, plane tickets, what the *$@! else am I going to do in England for long enough to make a real vacation out of it, ... Good luck, everyone! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft -- but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft. - Chris Garrigues From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Wed Aug 16 21:11:57 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:41:57 +0930 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 Message-ID: Hey guys where do I get the tickets and can they be ordered online Michael Hawksoul ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:44 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 > Melvyn Vincent writes: > > > I've said once and I'll say it again. > > My info came from a reliable source which I will not disclose. > > It is the REAL REUNION. > > Brock,Lemmy,Nik,Simon,Tim and all! > > Oh, all right then. I'll go. What's their damn phone number? > > FoFP From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Thu Aug 17 01:08:15 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 01:08:15 EDT Subject: nik sighting Message-ID: from hardradio.com: <> -bobm From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Aug 17 01:39:43 2000 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 06:39:43 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 Message-ID: Talking about speculation, has the Mazda advert been the driver (no pun intended!) on this, ie has the funds from the advert financed the gig? Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 10:22 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 > Look - speculation is going to drive you all mad and you're going to start > saying things that some of you are going to regret, believe me. > Look at it straight - there's an EVENT. It's got Hawkwind's name attached to > it. Hawkwind is copyrighted. Nik can't call himself Hawkwind just as it > stands. The EVENT lasts 10 hours; it's an all-nighter. It's billed as > Hawkwind - noone else. Strangely, to you, > no-one is saying anything about it from those that know, which implies that > somone is waiting for something to happen. This all just so happens to come > at a > time when NEW albums are due from Brock and Hawkwind (I know because the > Brock one is phenomenal!!!) and Hawkwind are plastered all over the TV on a > car advert. > To me it seems a tad obvious, but let's wait and see - be excited by the > prospect, not disillusioned - you know it makes sense. > Andy Garibaldi (putting two and two together and, for once, making four) > (Oh yes.... and Melvin......you need say no more, old chap - let things take > their course!!!!) > soon.) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Stewart" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 6:18 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 > > > > Who's runnin this show anyway???? Is DS involved????? If DS is involved, > and > > Brocky aint, Lemster should be ashamed of himself !! CUNT!!!!!!!!!! > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Aug 17 01:48:22 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 15:18:22 +0930 Subject: Brixton Acadamy Message-ID: Hey Fellers I gots my Hawkwind Tickets paid for so I'll see all others attending the concert in October. Looking forward to it. Rock n Roll Dave Brock Michael { Australia } Blackman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Thu Aug 17 02:33:10 2000 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:33:10 +0800 Subject: Brixton Acadamy Message-ID: Hey good on you! Bring us poor aussies back some T shirts. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: michael blackman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:48 PM Subject: Brixton Acadamy Hey Fellers I gots my Hawkwind Tickets paid for so I'll see all others attending the concert in October. Looking forward to it. Rock n Roll Dave Brock Michael { Australia } Blackman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 17 06:00:09 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:00:09 +0100 Subject: Stourbridge In-Reply-To: Stuckey, Robert's message of Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:09:57 +0100 Message-ID: Stuckey, Robert writes: > > > >Welcome back Rob! What's happening at Stourbridge? > > > >FoFP > > > > > Hi Mike, > > Well, according to WWW.HAWKWIND.COM:- > > Running from 12 noon to 12 midnight on September 30th, > this all-dayer features a line-up of Nik Turner, Alan Davey, > Harvey Bainbridge, Danny Thompson and Judge Trev, with > support from Bedouin and another set from Harvey. Stalls, > exhibitions, etc, too! At the Rock Cafe 2000, Stourbridge, > (telephone 01384 390918). Will the Turner/Ollis/Crimble/Langton lineup be there? FoFP From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Thu Aug 17 07:05:40 2000 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 07:05:40 -0400 Subject: BOC on the Radio Message-ID: Last night, while driving back from seeing Joan Jett and the Blackhearts (punk is still kicking), I stumbled across a radio station that played a block of BOC: Mistress of the Salmon Salt, Dominance and Submission, and Before the Kiss, A Redcap. Coolness abounds! Alas, the station faded out so I do not know what other goodies they had cued up. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Aug 17 07:44:41 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 07:44:41 EDT Subject: BOC on the Radio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 17 Aug 00, at 7:05, Hall, Russell J wrote: > Last night, while driving back from seeing Joan Jett and the > Blackhearts (punk is still kicking), I stumbled across a radio station > that played a block of BOC: Mistress of the Salmon Salt, Dominance and > Submission, and Before the Kiss, A Redcap. Coolness abounds! Alas, > the station faded out so I do not know what other goodies they had > cued up. Hey, check it out: Sunday, I saw Joan Jett and BOC at the same show! And Edgar Winter and Todd Rundgren to boot! Horrible experience though...BOC were headliners, but had to finish the show at 930. The other bands had played too long, and BOC only got to play about 55 mins. The band was visibly upset, as they've played this event 3 times as a support act. They finally get to headline the show, and get the rug pulled from under them. So, no new tunes, no interesting old stuff [though they did open up with a ripping TatSoL] and of course, the big 3. Short gig, but of course it included bass and drum solos [though mercifully brief] Probably my worst experience at a BOC show, though not the band's fault. Hey, Rundgren was amazing--power trio format... theo From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Aug 17 09:31:02 2000 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 09:31:02 EDT Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 Message-ID: Whew....This Assertive training class works;) Got a few calls today...Brocks there!!! Everyones there!!!! Regards, Bill 'stepping slowly back from the edge' Stewart From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Thu Aug 17 11:27:17 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:27:17 -0400 Subject: Sloterdijk: U.K, Tour exploratory committee (fall 2000) Message-ID: Hi all, Sloterdijk and or Mike Burro acoustic, is seeking dates in the U.K during the month of October. There are two distinct windows of time open; September 27th-October 14th and October 18th-29th..Unfortunately, I cannot afford to stay for an entire month. What I need is some help arranging some shows. The performances could be one or both of the following formats: 1) I would perform as Sloterdijk, a set of primarily ambient trance/electronic music,with a possible acoustic guitar interface. This type of show would be less rock oriented then what Sloterdijk has been doing this summer, and would lean more on some of the more obscure older cuts, though certain staples will of course be performed. 2) The second type of possible performance is something totally different, and is of the acoustic nature. With this style show, I would perform as myself, doing a mix of covers, traditionals and originals, and would welcome "throw together ensembles" along the way, including hand held percussion, woodwind, etc. These could be small informal "hippy type'" happenings, designed to be more intimate and participatory for the audiences. Now if you reside in the U.K., and you are interested in helping to host or arrange a performance, please write to me. I will choose whichever window of time yields the greatest possiblilties, and take it from there. This is merely an exploratory announcement, however I would very much like to make this happen.. P.S. These dates are not written in stone, so if you have an idea for an event which falls a few days outside of these time windows, please don't hesitate to bring it to my attention. Also these shows need not be eclusive to Sloterdijk. If you have a band/project, or you are a festival organizer, and you are seeking an additional act please wite to: SLOTERDIJK at webtv.net Peace, MIke Burro (Sloterdijk) P.P.S. To those of you have written to me from the U.K. regarding a tour in your area, I can only say that getting there is now my top priority. If we can't make it happen this summer, we will still make it happen. The United Kingdom is now Sloterdijk's next targeted region for live shows, so please be patient. Organizing such things can be very difficult.. Peace, MIke Burro (Sloterdijk) http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu Aug 17 12:54:13 2000 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:54:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 Message-ID: Ordered my tickets today. Incidentally, TicketWeb have it billed as Hawkwind with Liquid Len and the Lensmen. Nick From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Aug 17 13:09:33 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:09:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 In-Reply-To: <000801c0086b$c7949420$993ca8c2@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: And it is now official - an announcement's just gone up on hawkwind.com. Although the full details of the lineup and support won't be confirmed until next week! ;) -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Nick Lee > Sent: 17 August 2000 17:54 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 > > > Ordered my tickets today. Incidentally, TicketWeb have it billed as > Hawkwind with Liquid Len and the Lensmen. > > Nick > From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Aug 17 13:28:10 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:28:10 +0100 Subject: OFF: Godspeed You Black Emperor! Message-ID: They're back in the UK later this year - including four nights at the Scala, King's Cross, London on November 19-22. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 17 16:57:15 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 21:57:15 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 Message-ID: Cripes - that one's out of even my domain - I don't know if it works like that - put it like this, the amount these advetisers pay up is pretty phenomenal but as to what sort of money the group gets for the use of the music, I'm not sure. Royalty - wise who gets it - the composer or the group as a whole? Ah, questions, questions........ Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Abrahams" To: Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 6:39 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 > Talking about speculation, has the Mazda advert been the driver (no pun > intended!) on this, ie has the funds from the advert financed the gig? > > Ian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ANDREW GARIBALDI > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 10:22 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 > > > > Look - speculation is going to drive you all mad and you're going to start > > saying things that some of you are going to regret, believe me. > > Look at it straight - there's an EVENT. It's got Hawkwind's name attached > to > > it. Hawkwind is copyrighted. Nik can't call himself Hawkwind just as it > > stands. The EVENT lasts 10 hours; it's an all-nighter. It's billed as > > Hawkwind - noone else. Strangely, to you, > > no-one is saying anything about it from those that know, which implies > that > > somone is waiting for something to happen. This all just so happens to > come > > at a > > time when NEW albums are due from Brock and Hawkwind (I know because the > > Brock one is phenomenal!!!) and Hawkwind are plastered all over the TV on > a > > car advert. > > To me it seems a tad obvious, but let's wait and see - be excited by the > > prospect, not disillusioned - you know it makes sense. > > Andy Garibaldi (putting two and two together and, for once, making four) > > (Oh yes.... and Melvin......you need say no more, old chap - let things > take > > their course!!!!) > > soon.) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill Stewart" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 6:18 AM > > Subject: Re: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 > > > > > > > Who's runnin this show anyway???? Is DS involved????? If DS is involved, > > and > > > Brocky aint, Lemster should be ashamed of himself !! CUNT!!!!!!!!!! > > From denis at D-RIDER.DE Thu Aug 17 17:04:01 2000 From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 23:04:01 +0200 Subject: HW: Tim Blake's new CD Message-ID: Hi, just a short forward from a message I got from Tim: >BluePrint /Voiceprint records have announced the release date >for "THE TIDE OF THE CENTURY" as:- > >SEPTEMBER 25 ! Seems like good news for all Blake fans! :-) (c)IAO D+R -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabha www.d-rider.de From kruch at PINN.NET Thu Aug 17 17:24:47 2000 From: kruch at PINN.NET (Joseph Elric Smith Servant to Arioch) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:24:47 -0400 Subject: looking to find Boc cd's Message-ID: anyone here know of a place to get BOC cd's thanks p.s. either need to be internet or in the states really From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Thu Aug 17 17:54:58 2000 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:54:58 +0100 Subject: Requests Message-ID: 21st October............ Two tracks which MUST be played: 1. ORGONE ACCUMULATOR This simply HAS to be done. On 'Space Ritual' Lemmy's amazing bass lines carried that track. This track has 'vibe' written all over it. It still has an effect on me every time I hear it. It's a shame Bob's no longer with us though. 2. D-Rider I think this is one track that, I feel, definitely personifies early Hawkwind. A long jam of this would be absolutely fantastic leaving enough room for each member to "do their thing". It's a beautiful piece of music and I reckon the nostalgic references to endless childhood summers, where imagination was the key to adventure, would translate wonderfully to the spirit of the reunion. 3. Knackers, I only get to choose two! If I close my eyes and open my mind I can see it now..................................WOW! Keef -- Technical Thing Do-er Phone:0207 973 4000 Cinesite (Europe) Ltd. Direct:0207 973 4306 9 Carlisle Street Fax:0207 973 4047 London W1V 5RG mailto:keithb at cinesite.co.uk +++++ http://www.cinesite.co.uk +++++ From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Thu Aug 17 19:38:01 2000 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 00:38:01 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind - Requests In-Reply-To: <399C5F32.23B803F1@cinesite.co.uk> Message-ID: Well.......I wouldn't disagree with those choices, but what about........ SPACE IS DEEP. The throbbing bass building into a synthesised creschendo always sent a tingle down my spine (particulary the studio version on Doremi) And.... HURRY ON SUNDOWN Mainly because I'd love to see Brock strumming an acoustic guitar on stage for a change. There is really too much to choose from. I tend to identify particular songs with a given time in my life (and youth!). That has to be one of the most enduring things about music in general.......the ability of a particular song or sound to awaken a distant memory of a time,or even a brief particular moment in the past. I can't wait to find out what the actual schedule of events is for the 21st October! Melvyn From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Aug 17 20:15:24 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 20:15:24 -0400 Subject: BOC: looking to find Boc cd's Message-ID: Joseph Elric Smith Servant to Arioch wrote: >anyone here know of a place to get BOC cd's >thanks >p.s. either need to be internet or in the states really You're bound to find some of the staple BOC albums in just about any mall record store (Record Town, Waves, etc.) or at places like Best Buy or Circuit City. I consider the "staples" to be the albums the most popular songs are on, Agents of Fortune (Reaper), Spectres (Godzilla), and Fire of Unknown Origin (Veterans of the Psychic Wars, Burnin' For You). Since you're an Elric fan and possibly a fan of HW's Chronicle of the Black Sword(?), you might want to start with FoUO or the album that preceeds it, Cultosaurus Erectus, which includes Black Blade. My personal favorite BOC album is Secret Treaties, but that may not be the best place to start. Who knows? I started out with Extraterrestrial Live and I turned out OK. ;-) Then there's always the 2CD best-of: Workshop of the Telescopes. Brian ob Fun and ridiculous gig> Iron Maiden: Six Flags Darien Lake amusement park 8/16 ob Insane rollercoaster> Superman: Ride of Steel ----- Brian Halligan mailto:blackblade at bhalligan.com http://www.bhalligan.com/ From mvdbase at YAHOO.COM Thu Aug 17 20:57:10 2000 From: mvdbase at YAHOO.COM (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:57:10 -0600 Subject: BOC: looking to find Boc cd's Message-ID: >anyone here know of a place to get BOC cd's >thanks >p.s. either need to be internet or in the states really Uh... have you tried cdnow.com ?? Alex. --------------------------------------------------- http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net --------------------------------------------------- From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Thu Aug 17 21:07:08 2000 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 21:07:08 EDT Subject: looking to find Boc cd's Message-ID: Some of the Internet store I buy at are: insound.com, towerreccords.com, cdnow.com, and cduniverse.com . Insound is usually two or three dollars more expensive than the others, and tower is fairly cheap. Plus, with tower, you can get free shipping if you go to the site from the spumco.com site. Spumco.com (John Kricfalusi's site--Ren & Stimpy's creator) has a web cartoon, "The Goddamn George Liquor Show," and Tower Records sponsored some of the episodes. Tower sponsored the last episode and I guess they made some type of deal. Go to spumco.com, click through the Tower Records banner, I think it's called, and you get free shipping on whatever you buy. Of course, Tower's selection is sometimes scarce, a lot of their HW CDs are either "Special Order" or "Out of Stock," but they might have some BOC stuff. Joe Loehr From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Fri Aug 18 08:31:50 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 05:31:50 -0700 Subject: Stourbridge Message-ID: Well lets hope it doesnt get cancelled! M Holmes wrote: > Stuckey, Robert writes: > > > > > > >Welcome back Rob! What's happening at Stourbridge? > > > > > >FoFP > > > > > > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > Well, according to WWW.HAWKWIND.COM:- > > > > Running from 12 noon to 12 midnight on September 30th, > > this all-dayer features a line-up of Nik Turner, Alan Davey, > > Harvey Bainbridge, Danny Thompson and Judge Trev, with > > support from Bedouin and another set from Harvey. Stalls, > > exhibitions, etc, too! At the Rock Cafe 2000, Stourbridge, > > (telephone 01384 390918). > > Will the Turner/Ollis/Crimble/Langton lineup be there? > > FoFP From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Fri Aug 18 00:46:51 2000 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 00:46:51 EDT Subject: HW: Brixton Academy 21 oct 2000 Message-ID: Who's goin from the NY area? Regards, Bill From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Aug 18 07:30:59 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:30:59 EDT Subject: looking to find Boc cd's In-Reply-To: <74.23d0ebb.26cde63c@aol.com> Message-ID: On 17 Aug 00, at 21:07, Joe Loehr wrote: > Some of the Internet store I buy at are: insound.com, > towerreccords.com, cdnow.com, and cduniverse.com . Insound is usually > two or three dollars more expensive than the others, and tower is > fairly cheap. Plus, with tower, you can get free shipping if you go to > the site from the spumco.com site. > http://cheap-cds.com This one's got a lot of BOC stuff... theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Aug 18 07:32:03 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:32:03 EDT Subject: looking to find Boc cd's In-Reply-To: <74.23d0ebb.26cde63c@aol.com> Message-ID: On 17 Aug 00, at 21:07, Joe Loehr wrote: > Some of the Internet store I buy at are: insound.com, > towerreccords.com, cdnow.com, and cduniverse.com . Insound is usually > two or three dollars more expensive than the others, and tower is > fairly cheap. Plus, with tower, you can get free shipping if you go to > the site from the spumco.com site. > Here's another good one: http://www.half.com/ From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Fri Aug 18 11:33:28 2000 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:33:28 +0100 Subject: BOC-L tape swap 2000 Message-ID: Anybody who wants to take part this year should mail me (bart at aeolians.bt.co.uk) with their name, preferred email & surface address. I'll wait another week or so before determining the chain. Come on now, don't be shy! We don't seem to have that many takers at present. Tim From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Fri Aug 18 12:02:26 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:02:26 -0700 Subject: BOC-L tape swap 2000 Message-ID: Are we talking BOC tapes? Or HW? I only have 1 BOC tape and no HW at all. The BOC tape is a mix of some King Biscuit live BOC and old Soft White Underbelly cuts. I do have tons of Phish, Grateful Dead, .moe and Blues Traveller to trade.. I can also do CDR. Anyway, I might be interested. More info please.. (PS, I'm in the States..) JB > -----Original Message----- > From: bart [mailto:bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK] > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 8:33 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: BOC-L tape swap 2000 > > > Anybody who wants to take part this year should mail me > (bart at aeolians.bt.co.uk) with their name, preferred email & > surface address. > > I'll wait another week or so before determining the chain. > > Come on now, don't be shy! We don't seem to have that many > takers at present. > > > Tim > From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Fri Aug 18 12:22:24 2000 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:22:24 -0600 Subject: HW Anthology question.. Message-ID: Hi folx, coming out of lurk mode here:) I ran across a double cd by the name of "Hawkwind Anthology 67-82" ,. Is this one of the Weird Tapes" series?? The track listing looks like one of them. Any info on this one? I came very close to buying it, but thought I'd ask first. It's a new release, this year, so I'm very curious about it! Pam -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace > > Uh... have you tried cdnow.com ?? > Or... your local Tower store. Most shops around here, with the exception of the Mucousland/Spam Goody variety generally carry BOC, with Tower and independents having the best selection. scorch From kruch at PINN.NET Fri Aug 18 14:53:57 2000 From: kruch at PINN.NET (Joseph Elric Smith Servant to Arioch) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 14:53:57 -0400 Subject: BOC: looking to find Boc cd's Message-ID: well the one out here in Va carry a piss poor selection of course I want to get the old stuff to recreate my collection gone thanks ken "John H. McCartney" wrote: > > > > Uh... have you tried cdnow.com ?? > > > > Or... your local Tower store. Most shops around here, with the > exception of the Mucousland/Spam Goody variety generally carry > BOC, with Tower and independents having the best selection. > > scorch From Kilgorechi at AOL.COM Fri Aug 18 15:22:19 2000 From: Kilgorechi at AOL.COM (Carol Ann Kilgore) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:22:19 EDT Subject: BOC: looking to find Boc cd's Message-ID: Has anyone suggested Ebay...I just checked and they list 106 BOC related items. I've been buying Hawkwind stuff on there for the past 8 or 9 months and found it to be a pleasant experience. From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri Aug 18 21:21:35 2000 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 21:21:35 BST Subject: Hawkwind - Requests Message-ID: Hi everyone, Definitely SPACE IS DEEP for me, I've haven't heard that played live yet and it sounds like all the right 'ingredients' will be there to make it sound like it should. I've Just realised this will be my fourth decade of seeing HW live! Mick > Well.......I wouldn't disagree with those choices, but what about........ > >SPACE IS DEEP. >The throbbing bass building into a synthesised creschendo always sent a >tingle down my spine >(particulary the studio version on Doremi) > >And.... > >HURRY ON SUNDOWN >Mainly because I'd love to see Brock strumming an acoustic guitar on stage >for a change. > >There is really too much to choose from. I tend to identify particular >songs with a given time in my life (and youth!). That has to be one of the >most enduring things about music in general.......the ability of a >particular song or sound to awaken a distant memory of a time,or even a >brief particular moment in the past. > >I can't wait to find out what the actual schedule of events is for the 21st >October! > >Melvyn -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Aug 18 16:44:38 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 21:44:38 +0100 Subject: BOC: looking to find Boc cd's Message-ID: Hi There, Even though you're in USA and we mail out worldwide, e.mail me at work on agcdser at aol.com and I'll e.mail you back with a list of everything that's available by BOC world-wide at UK prices then at least you can make up your mind what to look for, whether you use our services or not. Andy Garibaldi. http://www.andygee.dial.pipex.com/cdser.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex S. Garcia" To: Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 1:57 AM Subject: Re: BOC: looking to find Boc cd's > >anyone here know of a place to get BOC cd's > >thanks > >p.s. either need to be internet or in the states really > > Uh... have you tried cdnow.com ?? > > > > Alex. > > --------------------------------------------------- > http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm > Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] > www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] > Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net > --------------------------------------------------- From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Aug 18 17:18:46 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 22:18:46 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind - Requests Message-ID: you and me both - I'd sell my mother-in-law to have Spacehead on there but somehow I don't think the less famous outsiders is what this one is all about. Track I want them to play? Has to be 'You Shouldn't Do That'!!! (although I could do with any Hawkwind line-up playing track five off the forthcoming Brock album but more about that when I'm allowed). Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melvyn Vincent" To: Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 12:38 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Requests > Well.......I wouldn't disagree with those choices, but what about........ > > SPACE IS DEEP. > The throbbing bass building into a synthesised creschendo always sent a > tingle down my spine > (particulary the studio version on Doremi) > > And.... > > HURRY ON SUNDOWN > Mainly because I'd love to see Brock strumming an acoustic guitar on stage > for a change. > > There is really too much to choose from. I tend to identify particular > songs with a given time in my life (and youth!). That has to be one of the > most enduring things about music in general.......the ability of a > particular song or sound to awaken a distant memory of a time,or even a > brief particular moment in the past. > > I can't wait to find out what the actual schedule of events is for the 21st > October! > > Melvyn From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Aug 18 17:14:23 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 22:14:23 +0100 Subject: Stourbridge Message-ID: Better flamin' well not be cancelled - we've got a sales stand there if all goes well!!!!! Actually I've been in touch this afternoon and they seem to know what they're doing - they're sending us a few hundred flyers to dish out with the mail so if anyone else is willing to hand out flyers for the gig, then e.mail me at agcdser at aol.com with your name and address and I'll pass it on to the organisers. For those that want to catch up with us we also have sales stands at the Magma gigs in Newcastle and Glasgow and the synth-Krautrock half-dayer in London on Oct 14th Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "linuxchaos" To: Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 1:31 PM Subject: Re: Stourbridge > Well lets hope it doesnt get cancelled! > > M Holmes wrote: > > > Stuckey, Robert writes: > > > > > > > > > >Welcome back Rob! What's happening at Stourbridge? > > > > > > > >FoFP > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > > > Well, according to WWW.HAWKWIND.COM:- > > > > > > Running from 12 noon to 12 midnight on September 30th, > > > this all-dayer features a line-up of Nik Turner, Alan Davey, > > > Harvey Bainbridge, Danny Thompson and Judge Trev, with > > > support from Bedouin and another set from Harvey. Stalls, > > > exhibitions, etc, too! At the Rock Cafe 2000, Stourbridge, > > > (telephone 01384 390918). > > > > Will the Turner/Ollis/Crimble/Langton lineup be there? > > > > FoFP From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Aug 18 20:31:26 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 10:01:26 +0930 Subject: BOC-L tape swap 2000 Message-ID: Hi there whats this all about Cheers Michael B ----- Original Message ----- From: bart To: Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 1:03 AM Subject: BOC-L tape swap 2000 > Anybody who wants to take part this year should mail me > (bart at aeolians.bt.co.uk) with their name, preferred email & surface address. > > I'll wait another week or so before determining the chain. > > Come on now, don't be shy! We don't seem to have that many takers at present. > > > Tim From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Aug 18 20:33:41 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 10:03:41 +0930 Subject: HW Anthology question.. Message-ID: I can aonly tell you that I have bought it and it has some interesting early stuff at the start and progresses on to some cool tracks . A good buy Cheers Michael Blackman Are you going to brixton? ----- Original Message ----- From: Cliff & Pam Wheaton To: Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 1:52 AM Subject: HW Anthology question.. > Hi folx, coming out of lurk mode here:) I ran across a double cd by the > name of "Hawkwind Anthology 67-82" ,. Is this one of the Weird Tapes" > series?? The track listing looks like one of them. Any info on this one? > I came very close to buying it, but thought I'd ask first. It's a new > release, this year, so I'm very curious about it! > Pam > > -- > Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton > _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace > 0 0 E-mail: cwheaton at TransWestTaxi.com > URL:http://www.TransWestTaxi.com > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Aug 18 20:34:52 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 10:04:52 +0930 Subject: Hawkwind - Requests Message-ID: I requested Moonglum from the Chronicles album and the right to decide because I love those songs ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Crook To: Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 6:51 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Requests > Hi everyone, > > Definitely SPACE IS DEEP for me, I've haven't heard that played live yet and it sounds like all the right 'ingredients' will be there to make it sound like it should. I've Just realised this will be my fourth decade of seeing HW live! > > Mick > > > > Well.......I wouldn't disagree with those choices, but what about........ > > > >SPACE IS DEEP. > >The throbbing bass building into a synthesised creschendo always sent a > >tingle down my spine > >(particulary the studio version on Doremi) > > > >And.... > > > >HURRY ON SUNDOWN > >Mainly because I'd love to see Brock strumming an acoustic guitar on stage > >for a change. > > > >There is really too much to choose from. I tend to identify particular > >songs with a given time in my life (and youth!). That has to be one of the > >most enduring things about music in general.......the ability of a > >particular song or sound to awaken a distant memory of a time,or even a > >brief particular moment in the past. > > > >I can't wait to find out what the actual schedule of events is for the 21st > >October! > > > >Melvyn > > > > -------------------- > talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com > From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Fri Aug 18 21:59:00 2000 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 21:59:00 EDT Subject: HW Anthology question.. Message-ID: Andrew Dawson's 'Hawkwind Files' site says that the Anthology 67-82 set is a reworking of the anthology The Approved History of Hawkwind and the Acid Daze series, with the addition of bonus tracks from other Castle & Essential releases. It also includes a booklet with HW info by Brian Tawn. I've got the set as well, and I like it very much Joe Loehr From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Aug 18 23:42:08 2000 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 23:42:08 -0400 Subject: Stairway to the Stars? Was: BOC: HW: Apold info on Moorcocktrack s Message-ID: Nick English wrote: > I had a pretty similar experience about five years > ago. I met Ron Riddle at Helen Wheels' memorial last spring and was blown away at what an intelligent, thoughtful and sensitive person he was. I really was surprised. > But Eric was more concerned with > getting out of the club and back on the road than > chatting with anyone. He definitely had that "Don't > approach me" air. I don't think he thinks he's too > above the fans. I just believe that, as good as he is > working a crowd from the stage, he's just not a people > person in the face-to-face sense. > Eric is really into his TV, so maybe he was missing "his show." ;-) He can be quite funny sometimes as an individual but I think meeting fans face to face has always made him uncomfortable. From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Sat Aug 19 00:14:55 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:14:55 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: on tour for now Message-ID: Welcome back Albert from your first power trio summer tour (w/the brain surgeons at least). How did it go for all involved? Also, is D.Roter Method planning to have any shows in the future? Hope fun was had by all! Wondering whatever possessed anyone to write a song called "Paff Bumm," Jason ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "And philosophy is wont, in fact, not infrequently, to convert itself into a kind of art of spiritual pimping.And sometimes into an opiate for lulling sorrows to sleep." - Unamuno, _Tragic Sense of Life_ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Aug 19 01:18:41 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 01:18:41 EDT Subject: HW Anthology question.. Message-ID: In a message dated 8/18/00 7:00:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM writes: > Andrew Dawson's 'Hawkwind Files' site says that the Anthology 67-82 set is a > reworking of the anthology The Approved History of Hawkwind and the Acid > Daze > series, with the addition of bonus tracks from other Castle & Essential > releases. It also includes a booklet with HW info by Brian Tawn. > > I've got the set as well, and I like it very much > > Joe Loehr Good thing to have: Unless you're a "Kollektor", this should supply you w/all the tracks you need from the Anthology/Acid Daze stuff (which does indeed contain some of HW's best moments) and avoid the countless reissues of the same stuff. Half of the second CD is just cuts chosen from official '90s albums, but not a great track selection IMO (but then nothing ever is). Chuck From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Sat Aug 19 03:49:48 2000 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 01:49:48 -0600 Subject: HW Anthology question.. Message-ID: I may just have to get it then. I've the Acid Daze series, and really enjoy them. Sounds like a good buy anyway. Thanks for the info! Pam Joe Loehr wrote: > Andrew Dawson's 'Hawkwind Files' site says that the Anthology 67-82 set is a > reworking of the anthology The Approved History of Hawkwind and the Acid Daze > series, with the addition of bonus tracks from other Castle & Essential > releases. It also includes a booklet with HW info by Brian Tawn. > > I've got the set as well, and I like it very much > > Joe Loehr -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace Message-ID: If you're interested in anthologies, I can't recommend the Epoch-Eclipse set enough. Great track list, great sound, and a nice package. Then again, I'm kind of a new fan, so maybe you already have many of the tracks on it. - Jeff =================================== Jeff Rankin jrankin at voyager.net http://www.jeffr.net/ =================================== On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Cliff & Pam Wheaton wrote: > I may just have to get it then. I've the Acid Daze series, and really enjoy them. > Sounds like a good buy anyway. > Thanks for the info! > Pam > > Joe Loehr wrote: > > > Andrew Dawson's 'Hawkwind Files' site says that the Anthology 67-82 set is a > > reworking of the anthology The Approved History of Hawkwind and the Acid Daze > > series, with the addition of bonus tracks from other Castle & Essential > > releases. It also includes a booklet with HW info by Brian Tawn. > > > > I've got the set as well, and I like it very much > > > > Joe Loehr > > -- > Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton > _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace > 0 0 E-mail: cwheaton at TransWestTaxi.com > URL:http://www.TransWestTaxi.com > > From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Sat Aug 19 11:11:19 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 16:11:19 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ted Nugent - this ones for Mike Message-ID: Ted Nugent recommends more guns for students - - - - - - - - - - - - Aug. 15, 2000 | DENVER (AP) -- In his new book, rocker Ted Nugent suggests that students could have stopped last year's Columbine massacre by rushing one of the two gunmen. Nugent, an avid bowhunter and a director of the National Rifle Association, also wrote that the April 20, 1999, shooting proved people should be allowed to carry concealed weapons. "Even Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were nearly robotic in their methodical slaughter. After emptying a double-barreled shotgun, one knelt with his back to grown adults and athletes, sniveling, while he conversed with his next victim for minutes on end," Nugent wrote in "Gods, Guns and Rock N' Roll". He autographed copies of his book Monday at a downtown book store as two police officers stood guard. Tattered Cover Book Store owner Joyce Meskis said the store received several complaints about the event. "But to inject our bias or the bias of another group into the decision over whether to allow an author to come is an affront to the First Amendment," she said. Tom Mauser, whose son Daniel was one of the 12 students killed at Columbine, called Nugent's statements "despicable." "I think he's living in this fantasy world where kids are crybabies if they don't fight back against somebody holding a gun," Mauser said. Mauser, who said his son was shot a second time after shoving a chair at one of the gunmen, said he thought the killers were too well-armed for students to have been able to stop them. Associated Press | August 15, 2000 http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - On-line dealer in previously loved records Distributor of Stone Premonitions, Century Media and Elastic Fiction releases Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sat Aug 19 12:59:57 2000 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 12:59:57 EDT Subject: OFF: Ted Nugent - this ones for Mike Message-ID: WARNING: THIS E-MAIL CONTAINS HEAVY SARCASM. THOSE PERSONS NOT UNDERSTANDING SARCASM SHOULD NOT READ THIS E-MAIL Arm everybody with guns. What a Good Idea! Just about everybody in the Old West carried guns, and we all know what a peaceful place towns like Dodge City and Abilene were. THIS HAS BEEN A SARCASTIC E-MAIL THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION Joe Loehr From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Sat Aug 19 13:27:52 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 12:27:52 -0500 Subject: OFF: Ted Nugent - this ones for Mike Message-ID: Well, arm any adult that's able to handle the weapon, isn't a crook, isn't nuts, and yes things get much safer. BTW 34 states allow this, and it's a good idea. As for Nugent I hope he was talking about the principal or teachers having access to guns, not students. It's hard to imagine him saying arm the kids. Joe Loehr wrote: > > WARNING: THIS E-MAIL CONTAINS HEAVY SARCASM. THOSE PERSONS NOT UNDERSTANDING > SARCASM SHOULD NOT READ THIS E-MAIL > > Arm everybody with guns. What a Good Idea! Just about everybody in the Old > West carried guns, and we all know what a peaceful place towns like Dodge > City and Abilene were. > > THIS HAS BEEN A SARCASTIC E-MAIL THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION > > Joe Loehr From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sat Aug 19 13:48:40 2000 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:48:40 EDT Subject: OFF: Ted Nugent - this ones for Mike Message-ID: I don't belong to the gun-loving right or the gun-hating left; I believe firearms are dangerous when mishandled, and should be dealt with in a cautious, safe and intelligent manner. Which is precisely the problem with a lot of people in this country: they are just too fu**ing stupid to have guns! The main reason I'm not to enthusiastic about civilians carrying guns is that I don't want to get in the crossfire of some yahoo who want to reenact the Gunfight at the O.K. Corral with some robber. I know every gun owner isn't likely to do this. But it's the small percentage who would that scare me silly. Joe Loehr From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Aug 19 13:54:56 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 18:54:56 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ted Nugent - this ones for Mike In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Tell you what, they could have coin-op gun-dispensers in every school. That'd cut down the number of shootings, no trouble. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Zeitgeist > Sent: 19 August 2000 16:11 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: OFF: Ted Nugent - this ones for Mike > > > Ted Nugent recommends more guns for students > - - - - - - - - - - - - > Aug. 15, 2000 | DENVER (AP) -- In his new book, rocker Ted Nugent > suggests that students could have stopped last year's Columbine > massacre by rushing one of the two gunmen. > Nugent, an avid bowhunter and a director of the National Rifle > Association, also wrote that the April 20, 1999, shooting proved > people should be allowed to carry concealed weapons. "Even Eric > Harris and Dylan Klebold were nearly robotic in their methodical > slaughter. After emptying a double-barreled shotgun, one knelt with > his back to grown adults and athletes, sniveling, while he conversed > with his next victim for minutes on end," Nugent wrote in "Gods, Guns > and Rock N' Roll". > He autographed copies of his book Monday at a downtown book store as > two police officers stood guard. > Tattered Cover Book Store owner Joyce Meskis said the store received > several complaints about the event. > "But to inject our bias or the bias of another group into the > decision over whether to allow an author to come is an affront to the > First Amendment," she said. > Tom Mauser, whose son Daniel was one of the 12 students killed at > Columbine, called Nugent's statements "despicable." > "I think he's living in this fantasy world where kids are crybabies > if they don't fight back against somebody holding a gun," Mauser > said. > Mauser, who said his son was shot a second time after shoving a chair > at one of the gunmen, said he thought the killers were too well-armed > for students to have been able to stop them. > > Associated Press | August 15, 2000 > > > > > http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - On-line dealer in previously loved records > Distributor of Stone Premonitions, Century Media and Elastic > Fiction releases > Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk - home to the e-zine From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sat Aug 19 13:57:18 2000 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:57:18 EDT Subject: OFF: Ted Nugent - this ones for Mike Message-ID: Cool, but what about the "Damn-machine-ate-my-money-and-didn't-give-me-my-gun-and-here-comes-the-studen t-shooter-now" situation? Joe Loehr From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Sat Aug 19 14:24:19 2000 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 19:24:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton tickets Message-ID: Hey! Just got my Brixton Academy ticket through today (via Ticketmaster). Now that's what I call efficiency...... DaveB From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Aug 19 14:30:51 2000 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 18:30:51 GMT Subject: ON: Motörhead 25th Anniversary Message-ID: Mot?rhead Celebrates 25 Years With London Show Anniversary show to be preceded by massive "Best Of" collection. by Alexa Williamson LiveDaily Staff Writer LONDON--Mot?rhead is to play a special 25th anniversary concert at London's Brixton Academy on October 22. The concert is titled 25 Years Doesn't Matter Any More and will feature the line-up of Lemmy Kilmister, Phil Campbell and Micky Dee, plus special guests. The speed metal pioneers, best known for the hits "Ace of Spaces" and "Killed by Death," released their latest studio album "We Are Mot?rhead" on May 15, which was followed by a cover of the Sex Pistols' "God Save the Queen" on July 31. The 40-track, two-CD "The Best of Mot?rhead" will be released through Sanctuary Records on Aug. 29 and will include four previously unreleased live "Motorclassics." Before forming Mot?rhead, frontman Lemmy was in popular British space rock band Hawkwind. He was kicked out of the band in the spring of 1975 after spending five days in a Canadian jail for drugs possession. He formed Mot?rhead the same year. The father of thrash metal is also in the process of finishing his autobiography "White Line Highway," which he hopes to release next year. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ These guys got the scoop on Lemmy and even mention HW! You guys across the pond are SO lucky!!! I hope that someone captures this event w/ some good mics and a DAT machine. Take plenty of batteries! SPACE IS THERE D-Rider ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Aug 19 17:55:58 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 22:55:58 +0100 Subject: OFF: Review: Canterbury Sound Festival 2000 (Man, Arthur Brown, Gong, etc) In-Reply-To: <00bc01c007cc$6ce76240$2c0abc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > Don't know if you're into psychedelic trance style stuff, done with a > distinct Gong like feel, but if you've not heard Gilli's two projects in the > form of the CD's by Glo and Goddess Trance, you really are missing out big > time - fantastic albums. Well, some of it I am, yes, but I saw Glo once and they quite put me off the whole idea for a while. Gilli's in much better form at the moment but it struck me as flabby wandering hippy stuff of the most uninteresting sort at the time. Mind you, I had just seen Porcupine Tree for the first time and that had been kinda religious, I'm not sure who could have followed that :-) I shall wander closer towards investigating her solo work once I've got more Gong secured :-) Yours, Jon ObCoincidentalCD: Gong - _25th Birthday Party_ disc one -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | ======================================================================| | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Aug 20 04:12:07 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 17:42:07 +0930 Subject: OFF: Ted Nugent - this ones for Mike Message-ID: Here in Australia all semi automatic weapons and a large variety of weapons have been prohibited since the shootings in Tasmania. The prohibition was started mainly due to emotional over reaction. Since the prohibition was initiated the incidents of violent crimes being commited has increased dramatically - ironically - with the very types of weapons that are supposedly unavaiable to the public. Think about it Now the black market (mafia) have a boomimg business and all us honest citizens have nothing to defend ourselves with if we ever find ourselves in such a situation where we may need to defend ourselves. ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Loehr To: Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 3:18 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Ted Nugent - this ones for Mike > I don't belong to the gun-loving right or the gun-hating left; I believe > firearms are dangerous when mishandled, and should be dealt with in a > cautious, safe and intelligent manner. Which is precisely the problem with a > lot of people in this country: they are just too fu**ing stupid to have guns! > > The main reason I'm not to enthusiastic about civilians carrying guns is that > I don't want to get in the crossfire of some yahoo who want to reenact the > Gunfight at the O.K. Corral with some robber. I know every gun owner isn't > likely to do this. But it's the small percentage who would that scare me > silly. > > Joe Loehr From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Aug 20 06:05:33 2000 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 11:05:33 +0100 Subject: Bedouin / AoS gig changes Message-ID: Hi, None of you who read this list will be surprised to find that the following Bedouin dates have been altered (marked with asterisk). More changes after Oct 21st will probably follow, I don't think I need to say why... August 25th Sneaky Pete's , Mausoleum Drive, Strathclyde Park, Hamilton.01698 286505 AoS 26th Sneaky Pete's , Mausoleum Drive, Strathclyde Park, Hamilton.01698 286505 AoS Sept 28th Running Horse, 16, Alfreton Road, Nottingham.0115 9787398. Bedouin 30th now Rock Cafe 2000, Stourbridge. 01384 390918. All day 12:00pm to 12:00am event. Harvey Bainbridge set, Bedouin set, then a set with Nik Turner, Alan Davey, Harvey Bainbridge, Danny Thompson, Trev Toms. Also stalls/exhibitions Oct *6th Half Moon, 93,Richmond Road, Putney.0181 7809383 Bedouin Moved to 18th Nov TBC 7th Army and Navy,138, Parkway, Chelmsford.01245 354155. Bedouin *20th The Twist,Military Road, Colchester. 01206 562453 AoS To be rearranged *21th Zaks, Milton Keynes.01908 315447. Bedouin May be moved to 6th Oct 21st now at Brixton Academy, along with everyone in there right mind who reads this... 28th Axe and Cleaver,16, West Street, Boston.01205 367300. AoS Nov 2nd Alexanders Jazz Theatre, Rufus Court, Chester.01244 340005. Bedouin 3rd The Rigger, Marsh Parade, Newcastle-Under-Lyme.01782 616602. Bedouin 4th Uplands Tavern, 42,Uplands Cres., Swansea.01792 458242. AoS *7th Victoria Inn, 12, Midland Place, Derby.01332 740091. AoS 9th The Limelight, Crewe. 01270 255519. AoS 10th The Woodman, Black Fern Road, Sidcup. 0181 850 3181 Bedouin 11th Esquires Club, Greyfriars Road, Bedford. 01234 217171 AoS *18th Half Moon, 93,Richmond Road, Putney.0181 7809383 Bedouin **TBC** 24th Axe and Cleaver, 16, West Street, Boston.01205 367300. Bedouin 25th Running Horse,16 Alfreton Road Nottingham.0115 9787398. AoS Dec 1st Uplands Tavern, 42,Uplands Cres., Swansea.01792 458242. Bedouin 2nd Community Centre, Rye, Sussex. 07899 676723. Bedouin Vague trivia stuff: Alan has long owned a Mazda RX7 car with a rotary engine which has 142,000 miles on the clock. If he can get to 180,000 he should get the UK record for mileage of this type of car. Surely worth a new car from Mazda? See you all on 21st, Neil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lansford at VNET.NET Sun Aug 20 06:28:38 2000 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 06:28:38 -0400 Subject: Stairway to the Stars? Was: BOC: HW: Apold info on Moorcocktrack s In-Reply-To: <399E020C.E196223B@mindspring.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Albert Bouchard wrote: >Eric is really into his TV, so maybe he was missing "his show." ;-) He >can be quite funny sometimes as an individual but I think meeting fans >face to face has always made him uncomfortable. Especially if they just stand there with an "I'm meeting this person I've idolized for most of my life and now have no idea what to say" look on their face, I'll wager. ;) Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net From lansford at VNET.NET Sun Aug 20 06:34:03 2000 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 06:34:03 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: on tour for now In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20000819001455.00690e3c@mail1.wizvax.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: >Welcome back Albert from your first power trio summer tour (w/the brain >surgeons at least). How did it go for all involved? Also, is D.Roter >Method planning to have any shows in the future? > >Hope fun was had by all! It was in Nashville, at least.... Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sun Aug 20 09:40:42 2000 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 15:40:42 +0200 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: Hi folks I had a dream....... What about a meeting with all BOC-L members near the Academy on 21.10.2000 ? Rainer Wangler, Andreas Stuewe, me and 2 or 3 other Hawkwind fans from Germany will come to Brixton from Germany. And I am very sure that some folks from the USA, Sweden and Belgium will be there as well I think it will be a great chance to meet there (maybe in a pub very close to the Academy) Who else will be there ???????? Lets make a list and count.... Maybe one of you London guys should check out the right pub for this great event!!!! And maybe STAR_RATS could manage to bring some members to this pub. A phantastic occasion to get some autographs and talk to past and current band members btw: I've voted for SPACE IS DEEP and DAMNATION ALLEY cu all in Brixton Bernhard From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Sun Aug 20 10:00:03 2000 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:00:03 EDT Subject: OFF: Ted Nugent - this ones for Mike Message-ID: In a message dated 8/20/00 3:10:22 AM US Eastern Standard Time, michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes: << Since the prohibition [of some weapons] was initiated the incidents of violent crimes being committed has increased dramatically - ironically - with the very types of weapons that are supposedly unavailable to the public. >> That's why I'm also against banning firearms (or anything really) outright. Banning doesn't work. I've always heard that was how the Mafia rose to power in the US, during Prohibition. Ban something, and a black market will spring up to supply it to those who want it. "Outlaw guns and only outlaws will have them"--cliche, but true. Joe Loehr From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Sun Aug 20 12:33:55 2000 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (David Greenhalgh) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 01:33:55 +0900 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: Well, I'll be there, jet lagged. Good Idea Bernhard, I have a feeling we could fill the whole pub. For the record, my votes went to Space is Deep and Flying Doctor. Dave Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > Hi folks > > I had a dream....... > > What about a meeting with all BOC-L members near the Academy > on 21.10.2000 ? > > Rainer Wangler, Andreas Stuewe, me and 2 or 3 other Hawkwind fans from > Germany will come to Brixton from Germany. > And I am very sure that some folks from the USA, Sweden and Belgium will be > there as well > > I think it will be a great chance to meet there (maybe in a pub very close > to the Academy) > > Who else will be there ???????? > Lets make a list and count.... > > Maybe one of you London guys should check out the right pub for this great > event!!!! > > And maybe STAR_RATS could manage to bring some members to this pub. A > phantastic occasion to get some autographs and talk to past and current > band members > > btw: I've voted for SPACE IS DEEP and DAMNATION ALLEY > > cu all in Brixton > Bernhard From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Sun Aug 20 13:28:26 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 18:28:26 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: I'd like to if I'm allowed!!! Brixton aint such a great place to drink (as far as I'm concerned anyway!) I'm from North (ish) London and can recommend The Worlds End in Camden Town, right near the market. Full of continentals (ideal) and loads of er, students? Maybe someone local to the South can come up with something, a quiet pub? The Worlds End is pretty loud!! Great Idea. Ben David Greenhalgh wrote: > Well, I'll be there, jet lagged. Good Idea Bernhard, I have a feeling we could > fill the whole pub. > > For the record, my votes went to Space is Deep and Flying Doctor. > > Dave > > Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > > > Hi folks > > > > I had a dream....... > > > > What about a meeting with all BOC-L members near the Academy > > on 21.10.2000 ? > > > > Rainer Wangler, Andreas Stuewe, me and 2 or 3 other Hawkwind fans from > > Germany will come to Brixton from Germany. > > And I am very sure that some folks from the USA, Sweden and Belgium will be > > there as well > > > > I think it will be a great chance to meet there (maybe in a pub very close > > to the Academy) > > > > Who else will be there ???????? > > Lets make a list and count.... > > > > Maybe one of you London guys should check out the right pub for this great > > event!!!! > > > > And maybe STAR_RATS could manage to bring some members to this pub. A > > phantastic occasion to get some autographs and talk to past and current > > band members > > > > btw: I've voted for SPACE IS DEEP and DAMNATION ALLEY > > > > cu all in Brixton > > Bernhard From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Aug 20 13:39:27 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 18:39:27 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: Count me in - if all goes well.. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernhard Pospiech" To: Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 2:40 PM Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > Hi folks > > I had a dream....... > > What about a meeting with all BOC-L members near the Academy > on 21.10.2000 ? > > Rainer Wangler, Andreas Stuewe, me and 2 or 3 other Hawkwind fans from > Germany will come to Brixton from Germany. > And I am very sure that some folks from the USA, Sweden and Belgium will be > there as well > > I think it will be a great chance to meet there (maybe in a pub very close > to the Academy) > > > Who else will be there ???????? > Lets make a list and count.... > > Maybe one of you London guys should check out the right pub for this great > event!!!! > > And maybe STAR_RATS could manage to bring some members to this pub. A > phantastic occasion to get some autographs and talk to past and current > band members > > > btw: I've voted for SPACE IS DEEP and DAMNATION ALLEY > > cu all in Brixton > Bernhard From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Sun Aug 20 13:29:19 2000 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 18:29:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: The George IV(?) down Briston Hill is decent - I saw Bedouin there a year or so ago and it's a good enough pub to meet up in, even if it is a bit of a walk from th Academy. --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: linuxchaos To: Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 6:28 PM Subject: Re: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > I'd like to if I'm allowed!!! > > Brixton aint such a great place to drink (as far as I'm concerned anyway!) I'm from > North (ish) London and can recommend The Worlds End in Camden Town, right near the > market. Full of continentals (ideal) and loads of er, students? > > Maybe someone local to the South can come up with something, a quiet pub? The > Worlds End is pretty loud!! > > Great Idea. > > Ben > > David Greenhalgh wrote: > > > Well, I'll be there, jet lagged. Good Idea Bernhard, I have a feeling we could > > fill the whole pub. > > > > For the record, my votes went to Space is Deep and Flying Doctor. > > > > Dave > > > > Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > > > > > Hi folks > > > > > > I had a dream....... > > > > > > What about a meeting with all BOC-L members near the Academy > > > on 21.10.2000 ? > > > > > > Rainer Wangler, Andreas Stuewe, me and 2 or 3 other Hawkwind fans from > > > Germany will come to Brixton from Germany. > > > And I am very sure that some folks from the USA, Sweden and Belgium will be > > > there as well > > > > > > I think it will be a great chance to meet there (maybe in a pub very close > > > to the Academy) > > > > > > Who else will be there ???????? > > > Lets make a list and count.... > > > > > > Maybe one of you London guys should check out the right pub for this great > > > event!!!! > > > > > > And maybe STAR_RATS could manage to bring some members to this pub. A > > > phantastic occasion to get some autographs and talk to past and current > > > band members > > > > > > btw: I've voted for SPACE IS DEEP and DAMNATION ALLEY > > > > > > cu all in Brixton > > > Bernhard From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Sun Aug 20 14:17:49 2000 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 14:17:49 -0400 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: Well some stupid American is hard up enough to see Hawkwind to fly over for the Brixton gig,...and its me. Count me in for a meet up. It would be lovely to get together again with Bernhard, and to get to meet my phone friend, Andy., and meet some of you others. Count me From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Sun Aug 20 14:21:38 2000 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 14:21:38 -0400 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: My last words of my previous message got cut off. I meant to say: Count me in, I'm looking forward to the meeting. El From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Sun Aug 20 15:22:19 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (LINUXCHAOS.ORG.UK) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 20:22:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: Thats a much better suggestion. Kevin Perry wrote: > The George IV(?) down Briston Hill is decent - I saw Bedouin there a year or > so ago and it's a good enough pub to meet up in, even if it is a bit of a > walk from th Academy. > > --- > Kevin Perry > Sonic Energy Authority > http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ > > "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; > and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its > duties." > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: linuxchaos > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 6:28 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > > > I'd like to if I'm allowed!!! > > > > Brixton aint such a great place to drink (as far as I'm concerned anyway!) > I'm from > > North (ish) London and can recommend The Worlds End in Camden Town, right > near the > > market. Full of continentals (ideal) and loads of er, students? > > > > Maybe someone local to the South can come up with something, a quiet pub? > The > > Worlds End is pretty loud!! > > > > Great Idea. > > > > Ben > > > > David Greenhalgh wrote: > > > > > Well, I'll be there, jet lagged. Good Idea Bernhard, I have a feeling > we could > > > fill the whole pub. > > > > > > For the record, my votes went to Space is Deep and Flying Doctor. > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > > > > > > > Hi folks > > > > > > > > I had a dream....... > > > > > > > > What about a meeting with all BOC-L members near the Academy > > > > on 21.10.2000 ? > > > > > > > > Rainer Wangler, Andreas Stuewe, me and 2 or 3 other Hawkwind fans from > > > > Germany will come to Brixton from Germany. > > > > And I am very sure that some folks from the USA, Sweden and Belgium > will be > > > > there as well > > > > > > > > I think it will be a great chance to meet there (maybe in a pub very > close > > > > to the Academy) > > > > > > > > Who else will be there ???????? > > > > Lets make a list and count.... > > > > > > > > Maybe one of you London guys should check out the right pub for this > great > > > > event!!!! > > > > > > > > And maybe STAR_RATS could manage to bring some members to this pub. A > > > > phantastic occasion to get some autographs and talk to past and > current > > > > band members > > > > > > > > btw: I've voted for SPACE IS DEEP and DAMNATION ALLEY > > > > > > > > cu all in Brixton > > > > Bernhard From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Sun Aug 20 15:26:02 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (LINUXCHAOS.ORG.UK) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 20:26:02 +0100 Subject: HW: Napster Message-ID: My Napster username is linuxchaos if anyone wants to swap files. Ben From novadrive at HOME.COM Sun Aug 20 17:32:52 2000 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 14:32:52 -0700 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: At first I couldn't believe Eli was calling me stupid! Until I realized he was referring to himself. Well, one Yank there isn't quite enough; I'll gladly meet for a pint or three wherever those who know best decide on. And another query for those who know best: I'm very open for recommendations on a reasonable place to stay, near or at least easily accessible to the Brockston Hawkademy. Oh, my secret private votes were for "Space Is Deep" and "Paradox." Kevin Sommers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eli Friedman" To: Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 11:17 AM Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > Well some stupid American is hard up enough to see Hawkwind to fly over for > the Brixton gig,...and its me. Count me in for a meet up. It would be lovely > to get together again with Bernhard, and to get to meet my phone friend, > Andy., and meet some of you others. Count me > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernhard Pospiech" To: Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 6:40 AM Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > Hi folks > > I had a dream....... > > What about a meeting with all BOC-L members near the Academy > on 21.10.2000 ? > > Rainer Wangler, Andreas Stuewe, me and 2 or 3 other Hawkwind fans from > Germany will come to Brixton from Germany. > And I am very sure that some folks from the USA, Sweden and Belgium will be > there as well > > I think it will be a great chance to meet there (maybe in a pub very close > to the Academy) > > > Who else will be there ???????? > Lets make a list and count.... > > Maybe one of you London guys should check out the right pub for this great > event!!!! > > And maybe STAR_RATS could manage to bring some members to this pub. A > phantastic occasion to get some autographs and talk to past and current > band members > > > btw: I've voted for SPACE IS DEEP and DAMNATION ALLEY > > cu all in Brixton > Bernhard From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Aug 20 18:03:52 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:03:52 +0100 Subject: Stairway to the Stars? Was: BOC: HW: Apold info on Moorcocktrack s In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Jean Lansford wrote: > On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Albert Bouchard wrote: > > >Eric is really into his TV, so maybe he was missing "his show." ;-) He > >can be quite funny sometimes as an individual but I think meeting fans > >face to face has always made him uncomfortable. > > Especially if they just stand there with an "I'm meeting this person > I've idolized for most of my life and now have no idea what to say" > look on their face, I'll wager. That's exactly what I did to him :-) Though more to Buck, it has to be said. Three quarters of me wanted to say "that was amazing, I've never seen anyone play like that," and the other quarter was desperately trying not to say, "Gee, you're _shorter_ than you looked on stage." The mouth wagged but sound came there none. So Charlie Grant grabbed him and got him to fill in the blank on a lyric sheet to `Harvest Moon' and sign it "Good health to you"... Missed my chance there I think... Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | ======================================================================| | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Aug 20 18:07:57 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 23:07:57 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig In-Reply-To: <200008201340.PAA08244@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > What about a meeting with all BOC-L members near the Academy > on 21.10.2000 ? > > Rainer Wangler, Andreas Stuewe, me and 2 or 3 other Hawkwind fans from > Germany will come to Brixton from Germany. > And I am very sure that some folks from the USA, Sweden and Belgium will be > there as well > > I think it will be a great chance to meet there (maybe in a pub very close > to the Academy) Beehive again anyone :-) > Who else will be there ???????? > Lets make a list and count.... Myself and the SO will be present for sure. Tickets are on their way to me. > Maybe one of you London guys should check out the right pub for this great > event!!!! Nah, for the Academy it's always the Beehive, right? > And maybe STAR_RATS could manage to bring some members to this pub. A > phantastic occasion to get some autographs and talk to past and current > band members Huw's generally there before the fans, isn't he :-) > btw: I've voted for SPACE IS DEEP and DAMNATION ALLEY Excellent! Two at least for `Damnation Alley' then, though my other choice was `Levitation'. Hope to see people there, yours, Jon P.S. Carl may also be present, work permits having been arranged by then... -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | ======================================================================| | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Sun Aug 20 18:26:38 2000 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 18:26:38 -0400 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: This is beautiful. Kevin Sommers and I have to fly all the way to London to hang out together these days. Glad you're gonna make it, Kevin. I'm amazed so many of us have voted for Space Is Deep. I did as well, and for Motorway City. At this point one thing is definite.. it's going to be amazing. From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Aug 20 22:54:57 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:24:57 +0930 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: Hey Im flying from Australia and yeah sounds good to me Michael Blackman www.creativewave.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: Bernhard Pospiech To: Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 11:10 PM Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > Hi folks > > I had a dream....... > > What about a meeting with all BOC-L members near the Academy > on 21.10.2000 ? > > Rainer Wangler, Andreas Stuewe, me and 2 or 3 other Hawkwind fans from > Germany will come to Brixton from Germany. > And I am very sure that some folks from the USA, Sweden and Belgium will be > there as well > > I think it will be a great chance to meet there (maybe in a pub very close > to the Academy) > > > Who else will be there ???????? > Lets make a list and count.... > > Maybe one of you London guys should check out the right pub for this great > event!!!! > > And maybe STAR_RATS could manage to bring some members to this pub. A > phantastic occasion to get some autographs and talk to past and current > band members > > > btw: I've voted for SPACE IS DEEP and DAMNATION ALLEY > > cu all in Brixton > Bernhard > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Aug 20 23:04:14 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:34:14 +0930 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: I'll be there but we'll have to make a definate plan on the meeting place Cheers Michael B www.creativewave.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: Eli Friedman To: Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 3:51 AM Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > My last words of my previous message got cut off. I meant to say: Count me > in, I'm looking forward to the meeting. El From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Aug 20 23:08:23 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:38:23 +0930 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: I would also be interested in any reasonable accomadation near the area. Oh yes one other question..... Can you get cold beer in engalnd :>) Cheers Michael B www.creativewave.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Sommers To: Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 7:02 AM Subject: Re: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > At first I couldn't believe Eli was calling me stupid! Until I realized he > was referring to himself. Well, one Yank there isn't quite enough; I'll > gladly meet for a pint or three wherever those who know best decide on. And > another query for those who know best: I'm very open for recommendations on > a reasonable place to stay, near or at least easily accessible to the > Brockston Hawkademy. > Oh, my secret private votes were for "Space Is Deep" and "Paradox." > > Kevin Sommers > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eli Friedman" > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 11:17 AM > Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > > > > Well some stupid American is hard up enough to see Hawkwind to fly over > for > > the Brixton gig,...and its me. Count me in for a meet up. It would be > lovely > > to get together again with Bernhard, and to get to meet my phone friend, > > Andy., and meet some of you others. Count me > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bernhard Pospiech" > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 6:40 AM > Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > > > > Hi folks > > > > I had a dream....... > > > > What about a meeting with all BOC-L members near the Academy > > on 21.10.2000 ? > > > > Rainer Wangler, Andreas Stuewe, me and 2 or 3 other Hawkwind fans from > > Germany will come to Brixton from Germany. > > And I am very sure that some folks from the USA, Sweden and Belgium will > be > > there as well > > > > I think it will be a great chance to meet there (maybe in a pub very close > > to the Academy) > > > > > > Who else will be there ???????? > > Lets make a list and count.... > > > > Maybe one of you London guys should check out the right pub for this great > > event!!!! > > > > And maybe STAR_RATS could manage to bring some members to this pub. A > > phantastic occasion to get some autographs and talk to past and current > > band members > > > > > > btw: I've voted for SPACE IS DEEP and DAMNATION ALLEY > > > > cu all in Brixton > > Bernhard > From cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK Mon Aug 21 04:10:47 2000 From: cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 09:10:47 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Message-ID: I've booked mine...should find it waiting next time I go home to Mum! This is a ChrisW jinx-avoidance procedure See you all in Brixton!! >Hey! Just got my Brixton Academy ticket through today (via Ticketmaster). >Now that's what I call efficiency...... > >DaveB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kruch at PINN.NET Mon Aug 21 05:23:17 2000 From: kruch at PINN.NET (Joseph Elric Smith Servant to Arioch) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 05:23:17 -0400 Subject: BOC: looking to find Boc cd's Message-ID: I receive a page not found error when I tried the url thanks ken ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > Hi There, > Even though you're in USA and we mail out worldwide, e.mail me at work on > agcdser at aol.com > and I'll e.mail you back with a list of everything that's available by BOC > world-wide at UK prices then at least you can make up your mind what to look > for, whether you use our services or not. > Andy Garibaldi. > http://www.andygee.dial.pipex.com/cdser.htm > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alex S. Garcia" > To: > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 1:57 AM > Subject: Re: BOC: looking to find Boc cd's > > > >anyone here know of a place to get BOC cd's > > >thanks > > >p.s. either need to be internet or in the states really > > > > Uh... have you tried cdnow.com ?? > > > > > > > > Alex. > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/asg-us.htm > > Music Videos : mvdbase.com [database] > > www.milomail.com/com/mv.html [mailing-list] > > Progressive rock : rip.xrs.net > > --------------------------------------------------- From IainFerguson at CS.COM Mon Aug 21 05:23:01 2000 From: IainFerguson at CS.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 05:23:01 EDT Subject: Hawkwind - Requests Message-ID: Andy - "shouldn't do that" would be great.. Do you know when the Dave Brock Album comes out ? PS i've voted for Opa Loka and Hurry on Sundown. regards iain From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Aug 21 06:04:34 2000 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Zebulon Mysterioso) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:04:34 GMT Subject: Stairway to the Stars? Was: BOC: HW: Apold info on Moorcocktrack s Message-ID: Now there's a thing. What do you say to your biggest hero after the best show of your life.........................that he or she hasn't heard one thousand times before? I know some people have the 'gift of the gab' - can just spew forth conversation and get talking with their heroes, but I just get so tongue-tied thinking that all I actually have to say is "Wow, great show". But I've already said that by cheering at every song, stamping the floor for 5 encores and paying for the ticket and the teeshirt. What a dilemma. I always just end up trying not to spoil a perfect moment and go home with a smile and ringing ears. Not like the time I got incredibly drunk and ran up to the stage to shout "Thank for then and thank you for now!" at Peter Green (of the original Fleetwood Mac) until before the bouncers ejected me. Only for me to sneak back in with my backstage pass and do it all over again. >sigh< only young once. Chris. >Especially if they just stand there with an "I'm meeting this person >I've idolized for most of my life and now have no idea what to say" >look on their face, I'll wager. > >;) > > >Jean Lansford >lansford at vnet.net ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Mon Aug 21 06:20:41 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:20:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: haha me too, I got my marching orders (from my mum) again today!! That makes two of us. You could try Youth Hostels for really cheap accomodation, otherwise there are tons of hotels all over the place from ?35 upwards a night. I dont know anyone with spare rooms at the moment. Kevin Sommers wrote: > At first I couldn't believe Eli was calling me stupid! Until I realized he > was referring to himself. Well, one Yank there isn't quite enough; I'll > gladly meet for a pint or three wherever those who know best decide on. And > another query for those who know best: I'm very open for recommendations on > a reasonable place to stay, near or at least easily accessible to the > Brockston Hawkademy. > Oh, my secret private votes were for "Space Is Deep" and "Paradox." > > Kevin Sommers > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eli Friedman" > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 11:17 AM > Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > > > Well some stupid American is hard up enough to see Hawkwind to fly over > for > > the Brixton gig,...and its me. Count me in for a meet up. It would be > lovely > > to get together again with Bernhard, and to get to meet my phone friend, > > Andy., and meet some of you others. Count me > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bernhard Pospiech" > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 6:40 AM > Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > > > Hi folks > > > > I had a dream....... > > > > What about a meeting with all BOC-L members near the Academy > > on 21.10.2000 ? > > > > Rainer Wangler, Andreas Stuewe, me and 2 or 3 other Hawkwind fans from > > Germany will come to Brixton from Germany. > > And I am very sure that some folks from the USA, Sweden and Belgium will > be > > there as well > > > > I think it will be a great chance to meet there (maybe in a pub very close > > to the Academy) > > > > > > Who else will be there ???????? > > Lets make a list and count.... > > > > Maybe one of you London guys should check out the right pub for this great > > event!!!! > > > > And maybe STAR_RATS could manage to bring some members to this pub. A > > phantastic occasion to get some autographs and talk to past and current > > band members > > > > > > btw: I've voted for SPACE IS DEEP and DAMNATION ALLEY > > > > cu all in Brixton > > Bernhard From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Mon Aug 21 06:27:12 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:27:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Trades Message-ID: I'm going to start by apologising, for takinbg so long about the CDRs, I had to re-install my hardware & OS's. Lost all my email so please let me know what I owe you and where to send it to. Mind went blank! Ian? Filip? Chris? Ben From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Mon Aug 21 08:04:54 2000 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:04:54 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind - Requests Message-ID: IF I was going I would have voted for MAGNU and SPACE IS DEEP. Maybe next time :-) Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 5:23 PM Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Requests > Andy - "shouldn't do that" would be great.. > > Do you know when the Dave Brock Album comes out ? > > PS i've voted for Opa Loka and Hurry on Sundown. > > regards > iain > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 21 08:58:06 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 13:58:06 +0100 Subject: Stourbridge In-Reply-To: ANDREW GARIBALDI's message of Fri, 18 Aug 2000 22:14:23 +0100 Message-ID: > For those that want to catch up with us we also have sales stands at the > Magma gigs in Newcastle and Glasgow and the synth-Krautrock half-dayer in > London on Oct 14th When are Magma playing Glasgow? Where? Do you have a phone number for tickets? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 21 09:02:18 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:02:18 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ted Nugent - this ones for Mike In-Reply-To: michael blackman's message of Sun, 20 Aug 2000 17:42:07 +0930 Message-ID: michael blackman writes: > Here in Australia all semi automatic weapons and a large variety of weapons > have been prohibited since the shootings in Tasmania. The prohibition was > started mainly due to emotional over reaction. > > Since the prohibition was initiated the incidents of violent crimes being > commited has increased dramatically - ironically - with the very types of > weapons that are supposedly unavaiable to the public. Unsurprisingly, after the Dunblane gun ban in the UK, gun crimes increased after the ban. The Home Office has since denied that the reason for the ban was to reduce gun crime, though it didn't tell us what the point of the ban could possibly otherwise be. FoFP From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Aug 21 09:11:50 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 09:11:50 -0400 Subject: OFF: Ted Nugent - this ones for Mike In-Reply-To: <200008211302.OAA23142@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, M Holmes wrote: => Unsurprisingly, after the Dunblane gun ban in the UK, gun crimes => increased after the ban. The Home Office has since denied that the => reason for the ban was to reduce gun crime, though it didn't tell us => what the point of the ban could possibly otherwise be. You mean you haven't figured it out, yet? The Home Office enacted the ban because it figured the off-topic traffic was a wee bit on the low side on BOC-L. They reckoned that a gun ban was guaranteed to generate a lot of useless, waste-of-bandwidth threads and postings that never amount to anything new or interesting (just like this one). I think it has worked admirably! Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 21 09:11:50 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:11:50 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig In-Reply-To: Bernhard Pospiech's message of Sun, 20 Aug 2000 15:40:42 +0200 Message-ID: Bernhard Pospiech writes: > Hi folks > > I had a dream....... > > What about a meeting with all BOC-L members near the Academy > on 21.10.2000 ? > > Rainer Wangler, Andreas Stuewe, me and 2 or 3 other Hawkwind fans from > Germany will come to Brixton from Germany. > And I am very sure that some folks from the USA, Sweden and Belgium will be > there as well > > I think it will be a great chance to meet there (maybe in a pub very close > to the Academy) > > > Who else will be there ???????? > Lets make a list and count.... > > Maybe one of you London guys should check out the right pub for this great > event!!!! Yup, I'll be there of course. It'd be great to get together... FoFP From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Aug 21 09:22:44 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:22:44 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: Isn't the Beehive: a) Close b) Traditional for BOC-L meetups c) A Wetherspoons Pub so selling decent beer d) Busier than The Busy Arms, Busyville on a particularly busy evening (when they've got live music from that popular beat combo "The Extremely Busy Brothers") Maybe meet up somewhere in town near a tube on the Victoria Line (which should be open again by then) earlier on, and then head to Brixton later on? Just my two penn'orth. Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 2:11 PM Subject: Re: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > Bernhard Pospiech writes: > > > Hi folks > > > > I had a dream....... > > > > What about a meeting with all BOC-L members near the Academy > > on 21.10.2000 ? > > > > Rainer Wangler, Andreas Stuewe, me and 2 or 3 other Hawkwind fans from > > Germany will come to Brixton from Germany. > > And I am very sure that some folks from the USA, Sweden and Belgium will be > > there as well > > > > I think it will be a great chance to meet there (maybe in a pub very close > > to the Academy) > > > > > > Who else will be there ???????? > > Lets make a list and count.... > > > > Maybe one of you London guys should check out the right pub for this great > > event!!!! > > Yup, I'll be there of course. It'd be great to get together... > > FoFP _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From m.french at DCS.SHEF.AC.UK Mon Aug 21 09:38:10 2000 From: m.french at DCS.SHEF.AC.UK (Merrick Martin French) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:38:10 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: yep count us (julie and me) as well. Merrick French From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Aug 21 10:41:37 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:41:37 -0400 Subject: OFF: Woronzow site now accepting credit cards Message-ID: Hello, Please see above. I ordered Acid Jam II with me ol' credit card in baseball-playin', apple pie eatin', mother lovin' US dollars. Woo! Brian From sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK Mon Aug 21 11:30:26 2000 From: sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:30:26 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: Two more here! Si ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merrick Martin French" To: Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 2:38 PM Subject: Re: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > yep count us (julie and me) as well. > > Merrick French > From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Aug 21 11:39:11 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 11:39:11 -0400 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig In-Reply-To: <200008201340.PAA08244@mail.home.ins.de>; from bernhard.pospiech@HOME.INS.DE on Sun, Aug 20, 2000 at 03:40:42PM +0200 Message-ID: On Sun, Aug 20, 2000 at 03:40:42PM +0200, Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > What about a meeting with all BOC-L members near the Academy > on 21.10.2000 ? Aye! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft -- but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft. - Chris Garrigues From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Aug 21 13:17:54 2000 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:17:54 +0100 Subject: HW: Trades Message-ID: Ben Sorry - forgot to send the up-dated list, here it is. Let me have a list of what you need, but I have a couple of hectic weeks coming up and will probably be out of touch. But i'm on holiday for a week early September so can get some things done then. Unlikely to be going to the reunion gig. Bummer. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: linuxchaos To: Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 11:27 AM Subject: HW: Trades > I'm going to start by apologising, for takinbg so long about the CDRs, I > had to re-install my hardware & OS's. > > Lost all my email so please let me know what I owe you and where to send > it to. > > Mind went blank! > > Ian? Filip? Chris? > > > Ben > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Hawkwind Tapes.xls Type: application/vnd.ms-excel Size: 34304 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Aug 21 13:28:46 2000 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:28:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Trades Message-ID: Sorry folks - thought this was an off-list message. All those people fuming at the attachment - many apologies. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Abrahams To: Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 6:17 PM Subject: Re: HW: Trades > Ben > > Sorry - forgot to send the up-dated list, here it is. Let me have a list of > what you need, but I have a couple of hectic weeks coming up and will > probably be out of touch. But i'm on holiday for a week early September so > can get some things done then. > > Unlikely to be going to the reunion gig. Bummer. > > Ian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: linuxchaos > To: > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 11:27 AM > Subject: HW: Trades > > > > I'm going to start by apologising, for takinbg so long about the CDRs, I > > had to re-install my hardware & OS's. > > > > Lost all my email so please let me know what I owe you and where to send > > it to. > > > > Mind went blank! > > > > Ian? Filip? Chris? > > > > > > Ben > > > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Aug 21 13:39:26 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:39:26 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind - Requests Message-ID: No, not yet but is iminent and we hope to have all the release dates for all the albums in the new catalogue that's out in a 10 days or so - I take it you're on the mailing list. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "" To: Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 10:23 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind - Requests > Andy - "shouldn't do that" would be great.. > > Do you know when the Dave Brock Album comes out ? > > PS i've voted for Opa Loka and Hurry on Sundown. > > regards > iain From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Aug 21 14:00:17 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 19:00:17 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: errrr......aren't we getting in danger of getting more people than you can fit in the average sized London pub or are they all a lot bigger down there than they are up here in sunny Scotland? Andy Garibaldi (drinker? me? surely shome mishtake!!!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Jarrett" To: Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 11:07 PM Subject: Re: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > > > What about a meeting with all BOC-L members near the Academy > > on 21.10.2000 ? > > > > Rainer Wangler, Andreas Stuewe, me and 2 or 3 other Hawkwind fans from > > Germany will come to Brixton from Germany. > > And I am very sure that some folks from the USA, Sweden and Belgium will be > > there as well > > > > I think it will be a great chance to meet there (maybe in a pub very close > > to the Academy) > > Beehive again anyone :-) > > > Who else will be there ???????? > > Lets make a list and count.... > > Myself and the SO will be present for sure. Tickets are on their > way to me. > > > Maybe one of you London guys should check out the right pub for this great > > event!!!! > > Nah, for the Academy it's always the Beehive, right? > > > And maybe STAR_RATS could manage to bring some members to this pub. A > > phantastic occasion to get some autographs and talk to past and current > > band members > > Huw's generally there before the fans, isn't he :-) > > > btw: I've voted for SPACE IS DEEP and DAMNATION ALLEY > > Excellent! Two at least for `Damnation Alley' then, though my > other choice was `Levitation'. Hope to see people there, yours, > Jon > > P.S. Carl may also be present, work permits having been arranged by > then... > -- > | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk > | ======================================================================| > | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Aug 21 14:06:47 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 19:06:47 +0100 Subject: Stourbridge Message-ID: Yes, yes and yes but they are all at work so I'll let you have the details tomorrow via the web altho' we've got a ton of these rather glorious glossy flyers for the gig s if you want one sending out -let me know. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "M Holmes" To: Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 1:58 PM Subject: Re: Stourbridge > > For those that want to catch up with us we also have sales stands at the > > Magma gigs in Newcastle and Glasgow and the synth-Krautrock half-dayer in > > London on Oct 14th > > When are Magma playing Glasgow? Where? Do you have a phone number for > tickets? > > FoFP From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Aug 21 14:08:56 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 19:08:56 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: At that time of the year in UK you'd have a job getting anything other than cold beer!!!! Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael blackman" To: Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 4:08 AM Subject: Re: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > I would also be interested in any reasonable accomadation near the area. > > Oh yes one other question..... > > Can you get cold beer in engalnd :>) > > Cheers > Michael B > www.creativewave.com.au > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kevin Sommers > To: > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 7:02 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > > > > At first I couldn't believe Eli was calling me stupid! Until I realized > he > > was referring to himself. Well, one Yank there isn't quite enough; I'll > > gladly meet for a pint or three wherever those who know best decide on. > And > > another query for those who know best: I'm very open for recommendations > on > > a reasonable place to stay, near or at least easily accessible to the > > Brockston Hawkademy. > > Oh, my secret private votes were for "Space Is Deep" and "Paradox." > > > > Kevin Sommers > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Eli Friedman" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 11:17 AM > > Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > > > > > > > Well some stupid American is hard up enough to see Hawkwind to fly over > > for > > > the Brixton gig,...and its me. Count me in for a meet up. It would be > > lovely > > > to get together again with Bernhard, and to get to meet my phone friend, > > > Andy., and meet some of you others. Count me > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bernhard Pospiech" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 6:40 AM > > Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > > > > > > > Hi folks > > > > > > I had a dream....... > > > > > > What about a meeting with all BOC-L members near the Academy > > > on 21.10.2000 ? > > > > > > Rainer Wangler, Andreas Stuewe, me and 2 or 3 other Hawkwind fans from > > > Germany will come to Brixton from Germany. > > > And I am very sure that some folks from the USA, Sweden and Belgium will > > be > > > there as well > > > > > > I think it will be a great chance to meet there (maybe in a pub very > close > > > to the Academy) > > > > > > > > > Who else will be there ???????? > > > Lets make a list and count.... > > > > > > Maybe one of you London guys should check out the right pub for this > great > > > event!!!! > > > > > > And maybe STAR_RATS could manage to bring some members to this pub. A > > > phantastic occasion to get some autographs and talk to past and current > > > band members > > > > > > > > > btw: I've voted for SPACE IS DEEP and DAMNATION ALLEY > > > > > > cu all in Brixton > > > Bernhard > > From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Mon Aug 21 14:16:02 2000 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:16:02 -0400 Subject: Another good article regarding Napster and internet music Message-ID: Go here Agree, disagree, but interesting reading none the less http://www.theatlantic.com/cgi-bin/o/issues/2000/09/mann.htm Michael S. Habiby ________________________ "Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on." - Winston Churchill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Aug 21 17:29:27 2000 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 21:29:27 GMT Subject: OFF: Ozrix US Tour Dates Message-ID: Subject: Ozric Tentacles US Tour Dates Get out those portables - here's the upcoming (DAT taping friendly) Ozric Tentacles US Tour Dates: Fri 8th Sept - Los Angles CA Knitting Factory 7021 Hollywood Blvd tel 323 463 0204 Price $15/$17 Sat 9th Sept - San Francisco CA Great American Music Hall 859 O' Farrell St. tel 415 885 0750 Price $17 Mon 11th Sept - Eugene OR Wow Hall 291 West 8th tel 541 687 2747 Price $12 Tue 12th Sept - Portland OR Satyricon 125 6th St tel 503 243 2380 Price $15 Fri 15th Sept - Denver CO Soiled Dove 1949 Market St tel 303 299 0100 Price $13 Sat 16th Sept - Lawrence KS Bottleneck 737 New Hampshire tel 785 842 5483 Price $15 Mon 18th Sept - Chicago House of Blues Tue 19th Sept - Milwaukee WI Shank Hall 1434 North Farwell tel 414 276 7288 Price $16 Wed 20th Sept - Minneapolis MN First Avenue 701 First Avenue North tel 612 338 8407 Price $10/$12 Sat 23rd Sept - Huntington WV Buffalo Gap Community Camp Sun 24th Sept - Columbus Thirsty Ear Tue 26th Sept - Cleveland OH Odeon 1295 Old River Rd tel 216 574 2525 Price $12.50/$15 Sat 30th Sept - New York City NY Knitting Factory 74 Leonard St tel 212 219 3006 Price $15/$17 Sun 1st Oct - Philadelphia PA Trocadero Theatre 1003 Arch Street Box Office (215) 922-6888 Doors 7 pm Price $15/$16 www.trocaderotheatre.com Mon 2nd Oct - Boston House of Blues Sat 7th Oct - Ann Arbor MI The Firefly Club 207 South Ashley tel 734 769 2999 Unfortunately, as of now they are not coming close to me. I would love to trade w/ someone that tapes some shows on DAT. Peace, Darrin ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Aug 21 17:46:37 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:46:37 -0400 Subject: OFF: Ozrix US Tour Dates Message-ID: >Subject: Ozric Tentacles US Tour Dates These ain't the Ozric dates...these are the Gong dates!! (See www.planetgong.co.uk) Who the hell sent you this misinformation? (No way they're playing at the Thirsty Ear in Columbus. The place is the size of my living room. Will be interesting to see if it really happens though. I could walk to the club in 10 minutes.) >Get out those portables - here's the upcoming (DAT taping friendly) Ozric >Tentacles US Tour Dates: > > Fri 8th Sept - Los Angles CA > Knitting Factory etc...... Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Ozrics (actual) new album "The Hidden Step" and will be released worldwide on October 2nd (slightly earlier in the USA - 26th September)...they tentatively plan to tour the US in October. ObCD: Salom? - AM From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Aug 21 19:15:30 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:15:30 -0700 Subject: OFF: Ozrix US Tour Dates Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:46:37 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >These ain't the Ozric dates...these are the Gong dates!! (See >www.planetgong.co.uk) And at least for the San Francisco show (3 days before I turn 33), the support act is Kevin Ayers! I'd *really* love to see him and Daevid get together for a version of "Reelin' Feelin' Squealin'" (or any other early Soft Machine chestnut, really). -Doug (not as much of a Kim Fowley fan as *some* people I know) ceres at sirius.com From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Mon Aug 21 19:59:49 2000 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 00:59:49 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton 'ole' gits! In-Reply-To: <006e01c00b9c$6c891220$a444a8c2@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: Hey......has it crossed anyones mind,that at this 9 hour gig we will be witnessing at least 3 grown men/musicians with a combined age of almost 180 years playing continuously (or thereabouts) between 9pm and 6am!......(i.e. Brock,Turner & Lemmy). I can think of a few teenagers that would never be able to last that distance!!!!!! There should be a team of paramedics and a mobile i.c.u. (intensive care unit).....just in case! ( mind you.......Lemmy has such a constitution that even massive coronary coupled with liver and kidney failure probably wouldn't stop him playing through it!) PS. Is there a catagory in the guiness book of records for oldest combined age of a rock band to ever play on stage??????? From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Mon Aug 21 20:06:00 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 01:06:00 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ozrix US Tour Dates Message-ID: Kevin Ayers! is that the musician who worked with mike oldfield and the whole world? Doug Pearson wrote: > On Mon, 21 Aug 2000 17:46:37 -0400, K Henderson wrote: > >These ain't the Ozric dates...these are the Gong dates!! (See > >www.planetgong.co.uk) > > And at least for the San Francisco show (3 days before I turn 33), the > support act is Kevin Ayers! > > I'd *really* love to see him and Daevid get together for a version of > "Reelin' Feelin' Squealin'" (or any other early Soft Machine chestnut, > really). > > -Doug (not as much of a Kim Fowley fan as *some* people I know) > ceres at sirius.com -- ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/free_video/ From lansford at VNET.NET Mon Aug 21 20:21:08 2000 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:21:08 -0400 Subject: Stairway to the Stars? Was: BOC: HW: Apold info on Moorcocktrack s In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Zebulon Mysterioso wrote: >Now there's a thing. What do you say to your biggest hero after the best >show of your life.........................that he or she hasn't heard one >thousand times before? Um, "Your music has always meant a great deal to me. Thank you." is usually appreciated, no matter how many times they've heard it. [snip] >What a dilemma. I always just end up trying not to spoil a perfect moment >and go home with a smile and ringing ears. > >Not like the time I got incredibly drunk and ran up to the stage to shout >"Thank for then and thank you for now!" at Peter Green (of the original >Fleetwood Mac) until before the bouncers ejected me. >Only for me to sneak back in with my backstage pass and do it all over >again. >>sigh< only young once. A huge regret from my misspent first go-round in college is the BOC show in Nashville TN where we got lost trying to get out of the auditorium and ended up in the middle of the backstage buffet. Our collective nerve gave out before anyone showed up. Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Aug 21 20:29:39 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:29:39 -0400 Subject: HW: Brixton 'ole' gits! In-Reply-To: ; from mel@MVA.U-NET.COM on Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 12:59:49AM +0100 Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 12:59:49AM +0100, Melvyn Vincent wrote: > PS. Is there a catagory in the guiness book of records for oldest combined > age of a rock band to ever play on stage??????? Even if there was, the oldest-combined-jazz-band would have it beat by at least a century... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft -- but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft. - Chris Garrigues From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Aug 21 20:43:47 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 10:13:47 +0930 Subject: OFF: Ted Nugent - this ones for Mike Message-ID: Ditto ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Mather To: Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 10:41 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Ted Nugent - this ones for Mike > On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, M Holmes wrote: > > => Unsurprisingly, after the Dunblane gun ban in the UK, gun crimes > => increased after the ban. The Home Office has since denied that the > => reason for the ban was to reduce gun crime, though it didn't tell us > => what the point of the ban could possibly otherwise be. > > You mean you haven't figured it out, yet? The Home Office enacted the > ban because it figured the off-topic traffic was a wee bit on the low > side on BOC-L. They reckoned that a gun ban was guaranteed to generate > a lot of useless, waste-of-bandwidth threads and postings that never > amount to anything new or interesting (just like this one). > > I think it has worked admirably! > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Aug 21 21:02:48 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 10:32:48 +0930 Subject: HW: Brixton 'ole' gits! Message-ID: As long as you don't throw up and pass out before the show you should see how well those cats can last man ----- Original Message ----- From: Melvyn Vincent To: Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 9:29 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton 'ole' gits! > Hey......has it crossed anyones mind,that at this 9 hour gig we will be > witnessing at least 3 grown men/musicians with a combined age of almost 180 > years playing continuously (or thereabouts) between 9pm and 6am!......(i.e. > Brock,Turner & Lemmy). > I can think of a few teenagers that would never be able to last that > distance!!!!!! > There should be a team of paramedics and a mobile i.c.u. (intensive care > unit).....just in case! > ( mind you.......Lemmy has such a constitution that even massive coronary > coupled with liver and kidney failure probably wouldn't stop him playing > through it!) > > PS. Is there a catagory in the guiness book of records for oldest combined > age of a rock band to ever play on stage??????? > From richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ Mon Aug 21 22:08:43 2000 From: richard at CRANIUM.CO.NZ (Richard Stockwell) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 14:08:43 +1200 Subject: OFF: Ozrix US Tour Dates In-Reply-To: <39A1C3E8.41D253D9@netscapeonline.co.uk> Message-ID: >Kevin Ayers! >is that the musician who worked with mike >oldfield and the whole world? The one and only. I have every album Kevin Ayers put out. I've been listening to his music since about 1971 and in my book the guy is brilliant. I think Mike Oldfield was only about 15 years old when he played bass on the "Shootin At The Moon" album. That album also featured Lol Coxhill. Just musing ! Richard From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Tue Aug 22 06:38:02 2000 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:38:02 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ozrics Message-ID: I read in one of my gig guides that Ozrics will be playing the Flowerpot in Derby again shortly - the gig is bieng arranged by Andy of The Victoria Inn in Derby so I'll check the date when we play Friday night. PS: 2 more for seats rqd for Brixton Pre-Gig Boozathon :) Mark (Hasbeen) From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Aug 22 13:27:03 2000 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 18:27:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton 'ole' gits! Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melvyn Vincent" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 12:59 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton 'ole' gits! > Hey......has it crossed anyones mind,that at this 9 hour gig we will be > witnessing at least 3 grown men/musicians with a combined age of almost 180 > years playing continuously (or thereabouts) between 9pm and 6am!......(i.e. > Brock,Turner & Lemmy). Brixton all nighters usually have some support bands first, then the headlining band around the midnight hour, followed by DJ's through til 5am. This one is not likely to be that much different, so I don't think there is any danger of any one person playing for more than a couple of hours at most! If someone fell over though, I wouldn't be that surprised! Neil. From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Tue Aug 22 01:54:31 2000 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 06:54:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Real titles Message-ID: Hi, Does anyone know the proper titles for the following HW/Moorcock poems? It should be obvious from these "working titles" which poems I'm referring to : My Armour's Killing Me The Fireclown The Timeship They were all performed at Rainbow on 18.12.81, which I had the great good fortune to have been at! Cheers, Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But I'm with you all the way........ Andy Garibaldi.(somewhat tongue in cheek) ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Lee To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 7:20 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton it's a bit of a shame that Alan's pulled his gig at Zaks in Wolverton on 20th Oct, Iwas rather looking forward to having Bedouin on Friday followed by Hawkwind on Saturday (with all the trimmings) then Motorhead on Sunday. Just have to make do I s'pose! Nick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Tue Aug 22 21:01:43 2000 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:01:43 BST Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: Hello everyone, I'll be going. I ordered a ticket online from Ticketweb, but they said they would mail the ticket 'within 7 days' of the event which I find a bit worrying as it doesn't allow much time if they mess the order up. Has a suitable meeting place been decided upon? Have you been keeping count of the list members going Bernhard? Mick PS voting for Space is Deep and You'd Better Believe It. > Hi folks > >I had a dream....... > >What about a meeting with all BOC-L members near the Academy >on 21.10.2000 ? > >Rainer Wangler, Andreas Stuewe, me and 2 or 3 other Hawkwind fans from >Germany will come to Brixton from Germany. >And I am very sure that some folks from the USA, Sweden and Belgium will be >there as well > >I think it will be a great chance to meet there (maybe in a pub very close >to the Academy) > > >Who else will be there ???????? >Lets make a list and count.... > >Maybe one of you London guys should check out the right pub for this great >event!!!! > >And maybe STAR_RATS could manage to bring some members to this pub. A >phantastic occasion to get some autographs and talk to past and current >band members > > >btw: I've voted for SPACE IS DEEP and DAMNATION ALLEY > >cu all in Brixton >Bernhard -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Tue Aug 22 16:10:18 2000 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:10:18 +0200 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig In-Reply-To: <20000822195732.REZO1580.t21mta01-app.talk21.com@t21mtaV-lr s> Message-ID: Hi Folks Hi Mick At 21:01 22.08.2000 +0100, you wrote: >Has a suitable meeting place been decided upon? I think it will be the BEEHIVE >Have you been keeping count of the list members going Bernhard? Yes I am still counting. I'll let the list know in a couple of days who these persons are >PS voting for Space is Deep and You'd Better Believe It. Yeah! I think SPACE IS DEEP will make it to the set!! cheers Bernhard From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Tue Aug 22 16:24:24 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 13:24:24 -0700 Subject: So long and thanks for all the hawks Message-ID: Hi all.. Well, sorry to say that the BOC to HW content ratio on this list is just too one sided.. I'm tired of deleting 25 posts and reading 1 or 2 per day (thats on a good day and usually one of the 2 is my own...) (and Yes, I just can't seem to get the hang of HW, never have..). Gonna unsub... I strongly suggest to the List Owner(s) that you change the name to something like hawkwind-L. I know that the list is for both bands according to the FAQ but is that really true anymore? BOC is a side issue at best here now. I will miss the occasional AB post and the ever so knowledgable BOC folks/fans here. I don't blame anyone, its not our fault that pretty much nothing much left to say about BOC. Not much happening to talk about. Signing off, JB From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Aug 22 16:39:16 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 16:39:16 -0400 Subject: So long and thanks for all the hawks Message-ID: >I strongly suggest to the List Owner(s) that you change the name to >something like hawkwind-L. I know that the list is for both bands according >to the FAQ but is that really true anymore? BOC is a side issue at best here >now. I will miss the occasional AB post and the ever so knowledgable BOC >folks/fans here. > >I don't blame anyone, its not our fault that pretty much nothing much left >to say about BOC. Not much happening to talk about. (hands in pocket, looks glumly around....) so, anyone want to start a B?C brawl? vote for your favorite tunes? Are there hidden references to Imaginos in any songs by Keanu Reave's band Dogstar? discuss. let's dissect the song "Light Years of Love", including all references to anything by SWU, Oaxaca or SFG songs.... Morning Final - is there a vampire reference here? Is Eric still playing Gemstone warrior or is he now on Everquest, Asheron's Call or Ultima online? Which server/shard, if so? Do the Bass and Drum solos in present-day B?C serve any purpose other than to give the rest of the band a breather? Or are they still valid crowd pleasers? "Left behind by the latest trends... eating fried chicken with his regicidal friends... - "Porcelain Monkey" by Warren Zevon =============== Andrew Apold From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Tue Aug 22 16:28:10 2000 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:28:10 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: And probably count me in too! --- Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://www.mountaingrill.co.uk/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Bernhard Pospiech To: Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 9:10 PM Subject: Re: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > Hi Folks > Hi Mick > > > At 21:01 22.08.2000 +0100, you wrote: > > >Has a suitable meeting place been decided upon? > I think it will be the BEEHIVE > > > >Have you been keeping count of the list members going Bernhard? > Yes I am still counting. > > I'll let the list know in a couple of days who these persons are > > >PS voting for Space is Deep and You'd Better Believe It. > Yeah! I think SPACE IS DEEP will make it to the set!! > > > cheers > Bernhard From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Aug 22 16:46:01 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 16:46:01 -0400 Subject: So long and thanks for all the hawks In-Reply-To: <4973895A322CD411A6B000A0C96E961120735A@C2>; from Joseph.Brooks@GCCCD.NET on Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 01:24:24PM -0700 Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 01:24:24PM -0700, Joseph Brooks wrote: > Hi all.. Well, sorry to say that the BOC to HW content ratio on this list is > just too one sided.. I'm tired of deleting 25 posts and reading 1 or 2 per > day (thats on a good day and usually one of the 2 is my own...) (and Yes, I > just can't seem to get the hang of HW, never have..). > > Gonna unsub... Well, as one who feels about BOC about the way you feel about Hawkwind: 1. The best HW news in years has us all quivering with excitement; give us a break! 2. You can always tell the list you don't want "HW:" or "OFF:" posts. I can't remember how, but I know it's possible. 3. Actually, some days I envy you. Most of those 25 HW posts are just chitchat; one or two substantive posts a day would be much easier to handle! (Except just now -- see (1) :-) 4. Don't worry; some day it'll be your turn -- all the talk will be about BOC and some of the HW people will be wondering whether to stick around. Cheers. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft -- but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft. - Chris Garrigues From sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK Tue Aug 22 16:02:31 2000 From: sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:02:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton 'ole' gits! Message-ID: > Subject: Re: HW: Brixton 'ole' gits! > > Brixton all nighters usually have some support bands first, then the > headlining band around the midnight hour, followed by DJ's through til 5am. > This one is not likely to be that much different, so I don't think there is > any danger of any one person playing for more than a couple of hours at > most! I heard that HW sometimes come back on in the early hours?. Personally I hope that it would be more like various members doing solo sets followed by a long HW set, then maybe a few more solo spots and a return of the Hawks (Hawkestra?) as a finale. I mean, this is supposed to be the big HW celebration isn`t it? Personally the thought of having to wait through DJ`s half the night in case the band return horrifies me and would put a real down on what should be a great occasion. On top of that I doubt my wife would sit through it. I go to gigs to see musicians play music not DJ`s playing records (I dislike dance music immensly, sorry). This is what has always kept me away from these all-nighters in the past. Si From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Aug 22 17:01:21 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:01:21 -0400 Subject: BOC: So long and thanks for all the hawks In-Reply-To: <200008222039.QAA26286@issfire2.co.palm-beach.fl.us> Message-ID: Sorry to see you go. Hey, at least come back when the new album gets released.... >> I strongly suggest to the List Owner(s) that you change the name to >> something like hawkwind-L. I know that the list is for both bands according >> to the FAQ but is that really true anymore? BOC is a side issue at best here >> now. I will miss the occasional AB post and the ever so knowledgable BOC >> folks/fans here. >> >> I don't blame anyone, its not our fault that pretty much nothing much left >> to say about BOC. Not much happening to talk about. > > (hands in pocket, looks glumly around....) > > so, anyone want to start a B?C brawl? vote for > your favorite tunes? OK. I've got 12 minutes to kill. :-) D&S (original version) tR&tB (T&M version and OYFoOYK version equally) Reaper (AoF version- a.k.a. the one without the TV Mix...) > Are there hidden references to Imaginos in any songs > by Keanu Reave's band Dogstar? discuss. "And don't forget my dog, fixed and consequent." (Beeteljeuce (sp?) the "dog star.") Obviously Keanu is a major BOC fan. In fact, in Bill & Ted 2, Bill says to Ted (Keanu), "don't fear the reaper" when the pair defeat death to return to the land of the living. Dude. > let's dissect the song "Light Years of Love", including > all references to anything by SWU, Oaxaca or SFG songs.... Yes. > Morning Final - is there a vampire reference here? Nope. "For the last time he felt the light and gave up his last fight." He's not giving up because the light is hurting him. He actually enjoys the light. Sometimes he has a picnic in the summertime when the light is very bright and the result is very pleasing to him, even though he ran out of mustard- though that part was cut from the original lyrics.... > Is Eric still playing Gemstone warrior or is he now on > Everquest, Asheron's Call or Ultima online? Which server/shard, > if so? Quake III. He goes by the name "U.V. Reflector" > Do the Bass and Drum solos in present-day B?C serve any purpose other > than to give the rest of the band a breather? Or are they still > valid crowd pleasers? It's an initiation right for the "new" guys. Ah, hazing.... OK. Time's up. Brian > "Left behind by the latest trends... > eating fried chicken with his regicidal friends... > - "Porcelain Monkey" by Warren Zevon > =============== > Andrew Apold From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Aug 22 16:59:58 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:59:58 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Crook To: Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 10:01 PM Subject: Re: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > Hello everyone, > > I'll be going. I ordered a ticket online from Ticketweb, but they said they would mail the ticket 'within 7 > days' of the event which I find a bit worrying as it doesn't allow much time if they mess the order up. If I wuz you I'd cancel your order now and go to ticketmaster instead www.ticketmaster.co.uk or telephone 08705 344 4444 (24 hours). I've got a perfectly legit looking ticket sitting in front of me right now and it arrived within 48 hours of me ordering it. So if ticketweb can't get you a ticket until 7 days before the event it sounds to me as if they are not carrying them or there's something else going on. Admittedly mine is only ticket number 20 so it's clearly still early days yet! > Has a suitable meeting place been decided upon? > Have you been keeping count of the list members going Bernhard? Count me in. Also does anyone know if there's a safe b&b area not too far from the venue? Given that there will probably just be a DJ set from (I'm guessing) around 2am onwards I think I'd prefer to crash preferably somewhere with a bed rather than at the back of the hall which I ended up doing last time! (yeah, yeah, I'm getting old and wrinkly - so....?) I don't really fancy an endless taxi ride nor do I wish to be stumbling around Brixton at that hour of the morning. All recommendations from those with London Knowledge gratefully accepted. Can't decide what to vote for...............8-( jill From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Aug 22 17:03:51 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:03:51 EDT Subject: So long and thanks for all the hawks Message-ID: In a message dated 8/22/00 4:47:20 PM, erics at TELEPRES.COM writes: < Hi all.. Well, sorry to say that the BOC to HW content ratio on this list is > just too one sided.. I'm tired of deleting 25 posts and reading 1 or 2 per > day (thats on a good day and usually one of the 2 is my own...) (and Yes, I > just can't seem to get the hang of HW, never have..). > > Gonna unsub... >> ============ dont y'all worry, mistah brooks; we'll do like we'd been doin' and i'll forward yiz the 1 or 2 a day! heh! "<>" From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 22 17:09:25 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:09:25 EDT Subject: So long and thanks for all the hawks In-Reply-To: <200008222039.QAA26286@issfire2.co.palm-beach.fl.us> Message-ID: On 22 Aug 00, at 16:39, Andrew A. Apold wrote: > Do the Bass and Drum solos in present-day B?C serve any purpose other > than to give the rest of the band a breather? Or are they > still valid crowd pleasers? > Urgh! They included the solos last week even though they played a bit less than an hour! A total cock up, that gig, at least for BOC... theo From denis at D-RIDER.DE Tue Aug 22 17:10:40 2000 From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 23:10:40 +0200 Subject: HW: Real titles In-Reply-To: <000001c00c64$5e64c860$e400883e@jezd> Message-ID: Hi jez, >Does anyone know the proper titles for the following HW/Moorcock poems? >It should be obvious from these "working titles" which poems I'm referring to : > >My Armour's Killing Me That poem also appears on two NikT solo-albums. It's called "Armour for Everyday" there. >The Fireclown "The Joker of The Universe" >The Timeship "The Timeship Will Not Sail Again" AFAIK. (c)IAO D'also going to Brixton'+R From kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK Tue Aug 22 17:15:35 2000 From: kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK (Tim Hall) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:15:35 +0100 Subject: BOC: So long and thanks for all the hawks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >> so, anyone want to start a B?C brawl? vote for >> your favorite tunes? > >OK. I've got 12 minutes to kill. :-) >D&S (original version) >tR&tB (T&M version and OYFoOYK version equally) >Reaper (AoF version- a.k.a. the one without the TV Mix...) Astronomy; SOE version (the song that got me into B?C, 20 years ago) The Vigil Nosferatu >> Do the Bass and Drum solos in present-day B?C serve any purpose other >> than to give the rest of the band a breather? Or are they still >> valid crowd pleasers? > >It's an initiation right for the "new" guys. Ah, hazing.... It's for all those Spinal Tap fans out there? And how *do* you type "?" on this laptop keyboard without a numeric keypad? Alt-153 doesn't work :( -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com "It's a fine line between stupid and clever" - Spinal Tap From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Aug 22 17:40:20 2000 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:40:20 GMT Subject: OFF: Ozrix Retraction Message-ID: I just got this note: My bad - they're actually dates for Gong - Ozric dates will be forthcoming. Steve ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ So just to clarify, the tour dates that I posted for Ozric Tentacles are actually the tour dates for GONG. Same Galaxy, different planet. Peace, Darrin ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM Tue Aug 22 14:03:03 2000 From: prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM (Sara Zaza) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 18:03:03 -0000 Subject: HW Brixton Message-ID: Count in myself and Sara as well! John Stanton From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Aug 22 17:57:12 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:57:12 -0400 Subject: BOC: So long and thanks for all the hawks In-Reply-To: <10r5qs0l4i446gfvuvs0tkqmsvhn2igv6l@4ax.com> Message-ID: >And how *do* you type "?" on this laptop keyboard without a numeric >keypad? Alt-153 doesn't work :( Save an "?" file consisting of just that character, then keep it handy to insert or cut and paste.... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From colm1 at MINISTRYOFSOUND.NET Tue Aug 22 18:17:31 2000 From: colm1 at MINISTRYOFSOUND.NET (bedroom trancer) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 23:17:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: just waiting to hear from my mate to see if he can get the time off work if he can i'll be there too :-) cheers colm > > >> Hello everyone, >> >> I'll be going. I ordered a ticket online from Ticketweb, but they said >they would mail the ticket 'within 7 > days' of the event which I find a >bit worrying as it doesn't allow much time if they mess the order up. > >If I wuz you I'd cancel your order now and go to ticketmaster instead >www.ticketmaster.co.uk or telephone 08705 344 4444 (24 hours). >I've got a perfectly legit looking ticket sitting in front of me right >now and it arrived within 48 hours of me ordering it. So if >ticketweb can't get you a ticket until 7 days before the event it sounds >to me as if they are not carrying them or there's something else going >on. >Admittedly mine is only ticket number 20 so it's clearly still early >days yet! > >> Has a suitable meeting place been decided upon? >> Have you been keeping count of the list members going Bernhard? > >Count me in. > >Also does anyone know if there's a safe b&b area not too far from the >venue? Given that there will probably just be a DJ set from (I'm >guessing) around 2am onwards I think I'd prefer to crash preferably >somewhere with a bed rather than at the back of the hall which I ended >up doing last time! (yeah, yeah, I'm getting old and wrinkly - so....?) >I don't really fancy an endless taxi ride nor do I wish to be stumbling >around Brixton at that hour of the morning. All recommendations from >those with London Knowledge gratefully accepted. > >Can't decide what to vote for...............8-( > >jill > From colum26 at YAHOO.COM Tue Aug 22 18:18:37 2000 From: colum26 at YAHOO.COM (=?iso-8859-1?q?colm=20mcwilliams?=) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 15:18:37 -0700 Subject: HW Brixton Message-ID: count me in and my mate matt(another hawkhead) colm --- Sara Zaza wrote: > Count in myself and Sara as well! > > John Stanton __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail ? Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ From lansford at VNET.NET Tue Aug 22 18:27:00 2000 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 18:27:00 -0400 Subject: BOC: So long and thanks for all the hawks In-Reply-To: <10r5qs0l4i446gfvuvs0tkqmsvhn2igv6l@4ax.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:15:35 +0100, Tim Hall wrote: >>> so, anyone want to start a B?C brawl? vote for >>> your favorite tunes? >> >>OK. I've got 12 minutes to kill. :-) >>D&S (original version) >>tR&tB (T&M version and OYFoOYK version equally) >>Reaper (AoF version- a.k.a. the one without the TV Mix...) > >Astronomy; SOE version (the song that got me into B?C, 20 years ago) >The Vigil >Nosferatu Hmmmm. The Revenge of Vera Gemini Magna of Illusion Mistress of the Salmon Salt >From my other half: Damaged Golden Age of Leather OD'd on Life Itself >And how *do* you type "?" on this laptop keyboard without a numeric >keypad? Alt-153 doesn't work :( What OS? Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net From kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK Tue Aug 22 18:28:24 2000 From: kalyr at CLARA.CO.UK (Tim Hall) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 23:28:24 +0100 Subject: BOC: So long and thanks for all the hawks In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000822175712.008c4d90@flite.net> Message-ID: Andrew Apold wrote: >Save an "?" file consisting of just that character, then keep it handy to >insert >or cut and paste.... Like I have to do with ?ml??t (from an online RPG). One of those names that seemed like a good idea at the time. -- Tim Hall, http://www.kalyr.com "It's a fine line between stupid and clever" - Spinal Tap From linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Tue Aug 22 16:46:06 2000 From: linuxchaos at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (linuxchaos) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:46:06 +0100 Subject: So long and thanks for all the hawks Message-ID: hear hear!! I suppose that the connection was Moorcock's contribution to BOC (which I still have not heard!). Isnt BOC a chemical manufacturer? Yes, when I worked on the railways there were numerous oil tankers with BOC painted on them, Guy? LOL Ben Joseph Brooks wrote: > Hi all.. Well, sorry to say that the BOC to HW content ratio on this list is > just too one sided.. I'm tired of deleting 25 posts and reading 1 or 2 per > day (thats on a good day and usually one of the 2 is my own...) (and Yes, I > just can't seem to get the hang of HW, never have..). > > Gonna unsub... > > I strongly suggest to the List Owner(s) that you change the name to > something like hawkwind-L. I know that the list is for both bands according > to the FAQ but is that really true anymore? BOC is a side issue at best here > now. I will miss the occasional AB post and the ever so knowledgable BOC > folks/fans here. > > I don't blame anyone, its not our fault that pretty much nothing much left > to say about BOC. Not much happening to talk about. > > Signing off, > > JB From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Aug 23 00:05:29 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 00:05:29 -0400 Subject: So long and thanks for all the hawks In-Reply-To: <39A2E68E.D21534E0@netscapeonline.co.uk> Message-ID: At 09:46 PM 8/22/00 +0100, linuxchaos wrote: >hear hear!! > >I suppose that the connection was Moorcock's contribution to BOC (which I still >have not heard!). The real reason was Steve Swann, he liked both bands so he started the list dedicated to the bands he liked. In the early days there was probably more B?C content than Hawkwind content. I'm not sure if archives for the list exist but there were just volumes of serious B?C discussions here in the past. Also, a significant percentage of the B?C only fans have moved over to various B?C soley dedicated lists... on some of which they are vehemently anti-Hawkwind because they got upset on this list at some point in the past. Not sure, but you can probably count Bolle Gregmar amongst these... he once related a "horror" story about a Hawkwind concert only to have most Hawkwind fans feel he was describing an ideal Hawkwind concert. And then there was Susi Wagner... Well, anyways. There's a certain community to this list, it won't be the same without both. I mean, the mystery tape that Theo was supposed to send to someone, reports from Roswell alien conventions in New Mexico, these things go hand in hand with reports from Australian Hawkfans... for sentimental reasons, I am against changing the name. >Isnt BOC a chemical manufacturer? Yes, when I worked on the railways there were >numerous oil tankers with BOC painted on them, Guy? Yes, you can still go to boc.com I believe. ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU Wed Aug 23 01:51:37 2000 From: freeaqua at IINET.NET.AU (Bill & Cynthia) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:51:37 +0800 Subject: So long and thanks for all the hawks Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Apold To: Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:05 PM Subject: Re: So long and thanks for all the hawks > At 09:46 PM 8/22/00 +0100, linuxchaos wrote: > >hear hear!! > > > >I suppose that the connection was Moorcock's contribution to BOC (which I > still > >have not heard!). > > The real reason was Steve Swann, he liked both bands so he started the list > dedicated to the bands he liked. In the early days there was probably more > B?C content than Hawkwind content. I'm not sure if archives for the list > exist but there were just volumes of serious B?C discussions here in the past. > > Also, a significant percentage of the B?C only fans have moved over to various > B?C soley dedicated lists... on some of which they are vehemently > anti-Hawkwind > because they got upset on this list at some point in the past. Not sure, > but you > can probably count Bolle Gregmar amongst these... he once related a > "horror" story > about a Hawkwind concert only to have most Hawkwind fans feel he was > describing > an ideal Hawkwind concert. And then there was Susi Wagner... > > Well, anyways. There's a certain community to this list, it won't be the > same without both. I mean, the mystery tape that Theo was supposed to send > to someone, reports from Roswell alien conventions in New Mexico, these things > go hand in hand with reports from Australian Hawkfans... for sentimental > reasons, > I am against changing the name. I've been here for a few months and read the posts about both bands. I'm with you - don't change the name. Bill > > >Isnt BOC a chemical manufacturer? Yes, when I worked on the railways there > were > >numerous oil tankers with BOC painted on them, Guy? > > Yes, you can still go to boc.com I believe. > > > ============================= > "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to > be subject to the works of those mighty > among dreamers." > > - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" > > Andrew Apold > From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Wed Aug 23 02:39:20 2000 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:39:20 +0200 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: Hi folks Here are so far the folks who will come to the BEEHIVE pub before the Brixton gig on 21.10.2000 Is the BEEHIVE ok ? And where exactely is this pub ? Very close to the Academy ? Near a TUBE station ? More infos from the LONDON folks please!!! 1) Andreas Stuewe 2) Gaby Stuewe 3) Rainer Wangler 4) Bernhard Pospiech 5) Andy Garibaldi 6) Ben Fagin 7) Eli Friedman 8) Kevin Sommers 9) Jon Jarret 10) Mike Holmes 11) Jill Strobridge 12) Michael Blackman 13) Merrick French 14) Julie French 15) Si ??? 16) Eric Siegerman 17) Nick ??? 18) Dave Greenhalgh 19) Mick ??? 20) Kevin Perry 21) John Stanton 22) Sara Stanton 23) Colm ??? 24) Matt ??? Someone forgotten ? I suppose the pub will be filled up with HAWKWIND fans. WOW! cheers Bernhard From denis at D-RIDER.DE Wed Aug 23 04:28:45 2000 From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:28:45 +0200 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) In-Reply-To: <043D0206B66DD311BC2500600878D936BBC5EC@VEG12_EXCH> Message-ID: Hi, >[snip _very_ long list] 25) Denis Regenbrecht 26) Kristin Regenbrecht >I suppose the pub will be filled up with HAWKWIND fans. WOW! Sounds like a lot of fun. (c)IAO D+R From IainFerguson at CS.COM Wed Aug 23 04:30:29 2000 From: IainFerguson at CS.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 04:30:29 EDT Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: Hi Mick, I ordered 4 tickets through Ticketweb on the 17th. They state very clearly in the web site that most tickets are delivered within ten days and that you should contact them if nothing is delivered after 10days. I'm waiting till the 27th to see if they arrive, after that Evil Iain gets let out of the box Best of luck and remember to call them after 10days if nothing arrives.. I'm sure it will be fine. "Buddha will provide" iain From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Aug 23 04:37:02 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:37:02 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig In-Reply-To: <00a801c00c7b$ef164a20$f00d893e@jds> Message-ID: > > I'll be going. I ordered a ticket online from Ticketweb, but they said > they would mail the ticket 'within 7 > days' of the event which I find a > bit worrying as it doesn't allow much time if they mess the order up. > > If I wuz you I'd cancel your order now and go to ticketmaster instead > www.ticketmaster.co.uk or telephone 08705 344 4444 (24 hours). > I've got a perfectly legit looking ticket sitting in front of me right > now and it arrived within 48 hours of me ordering it. So if > ticketweb can't get you a ticket until 7 days before the event it sounds > to me as if they are not carrying them or there's something else going > on. > Admittedly mine is only ticket number 20 so it's clearly still early > days yet! I've ordered from Ticketweb loads of times, and they always say this but then deliver the ticket fairly promptly. I've had tickets for Calexico on Sept 24th on the shelf here for about a month already! I wouldn't worry, just so long as you've kept your booking reference. This week's Time Out has a gig ad, by the way, with the tagline "Don't panic - the mothership is here to collect everyone!" > > > Has a suitable meeting place been decided upon? > > Have you been keeping count of the list members going Bernhard? > > Count me in. > > Also does anyone know if there's a safe b&b area not too far from the > venue? Given that there will probably just be a DJ set from (I'm > guessing) around 2am onwards I think I'd prefer to crash preferably > somewhere with a bed rather than at the back of the hall which I ended > up doing last time! (yeah, yeah, I'm getting old and wrinkly - so....?) > I don't really fancy an endless taxi ride nor do I wish to be stumbling > around Brixton at that hour of the morning. All recommendations from > those with London Knowledge gratefully accepted. Londoners don't actually know where to stay though as they never have to! ;) You could probably do worse than pick up a Rough Guide to London, obviously I haven't used it myself but they've never let me down in Helsinki, Paris, Cairo etc. (But Lonely Planet sucks!) I'd offer to put you up here but I think I'm already committed to having about half a dozen sweaty blokes staying. (Then again that might appeal, I don't know! ;)) -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From IainFerguson at CS.COM Wed Aug 23 04:35:50 2000 From: IainFerguson at CS.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 04:35:50 EDT Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: Bernhard, I'll be there (with 3 others) Cheering on the Bristol Carrot crunchers in the usual pre gig cider challenge ( you dont want to know ) Regards Iain From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Wed Aug 23 04:38:49 2000 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:38:49 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: >And probably count me in too! And me! DaveB (BTW - Lord of Light & It's So Easy) From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Aug 23 04:41:30 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:41:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: Me too! :-) Cheers, Rich. > >And probably count me in too! > > And me! > > DaveB (BTW - Lord of Light & It's So Easy) _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Aug 23 04:49:41 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:49:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) In-Reply-To: <043D0206B66DD311BC2500600878D936BBC5EC@VEG12_EXCH> Message-ID: > > Is the BEEHIVE ok ? And where exactely is this pub ? Very close to the > Academy ? Near a TUBE station ? More infos from the LONDON folks please!!! The Beehive is in Brixton Road, you turn right out of the underground station and it's about 100m on your right. There's a map of the area linked on the hawkwind.com site, or at least there should be - the Beehive is just north of the railway bridge. It's always packed when there's a show at the Academy - with 4,000 fans of whoever in the area, no wonder! You should have seen it when the Ramones played, but I'll let Paul tell that story... There's a Firkin over the road which has a footy table, but on a bad slope which made it virtually unplayable. Well they did last year anyway. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From hawklord66 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Aug 23 05:00:04 2000 From: hawklord66 at HOTMAIL.COM (Robbo .) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 09:00:04 GMT Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: well i just hope someone has a drink for me....... >From: Denis Regenbrecht >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: Re: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) >Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:28:45 +0200 > >Hi, > >>[snip _very_ long list] > >25) Denis Regenbrecht >26) Kristin Regenbrecht > >>I suppose the pub will be filled up with HAWKWIND fans. WOW! > >Sounds like a lot of fun. > >(c)IAO > > D+R ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Wed Aug 23 05:07:44 2000 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 11:07:44 +0200 Subject: AW: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: Hi Andy >The Beehive is in Brixton Road, you turn right out of the underground >station and it's about 100m on your right. There's a map of the area linked >on the hawkwind.com site, or at least there should be - the Beehive is just >north of the railway bridge. Thanks for this info cu all on 21.10.2000 Bernhard From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Aug 22 14:27:06 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 19:27:06 +0100 Subject: HW: Real titles In-Reply-To: <000001c00c64$5e64c860$e400883e@jezd> Message-ID: >Hi, >Does anyone know the proper titles for the following HW/Moorcock poems? >It should be obvious from these "working titles" which poems I'm referring to : >My Armour's Killing Me Armour for Everyday, as least that's what it's called on Nik's PROPHETS OF TIME >The Fireclown This is more or less the same poem performed by Blue Oyster Cult as THE GREAT SUN JESTER, so I guess that's its name! >The Timeship >They were all performed at Rainbow on 18.12.81, which I had the great good fortune to have been at! Me too! -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 23 06:07:04 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 11:07:04 +0100 Subject: HW: Real titles In-Reply-To: J D's message of Tue, 22 Aug 2000 06:54:31 +0100 Message-ID: > Hi, > Does anyone know the proper titles for the following HW/Moorcock poems? > It should be obvious from these "working titles" which poems I'm = > referring to : > > My Armour's Killing Me I thought that was "Use Your Armour". > The Fireclown Was this from the BOC track? > The Timeship=20 "The Timeship Will Not Sail Again" From cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK Wed Aug 23 05:37:37 2000 From: cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:37:37 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton meeting. Message-ID: Obviously I was too oblique... I've booked my ticket, so add me to the list :-{)> Much glee...the jinx will not beat me this time! Haven't decided what to vote for yet, but I reckon "Damnation Alley" will be one. ChrisW -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 23 07:27:51 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 07:27:51 EDT Subject: So long and thanks for all the hawks In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000823000529.008c9b70@flite.net> Message-ID: On 23 Aug 00, at 0:05, Andrew Apold wrote: > Also, a significant percentage of the B?C only fans have moved over to > various B?C soley dedicated lists Can you give details on these lists? Sounds like something I'd like to check out... theo From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed Aug 23 08:28:18 2000 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:28:18 -0400 Subject: BOC: Drum/Bass Solos Message-ID: > Do the Bass and Drum solos in present-day B?C serve any purpose other > than to give the rest of the band a breather? Or are they > still > valid crowd pleasers? Why does the band need a breather before the last song of the set? I doubt Buck is too worn out playing the riff to "Godzilla" to then go into "The Reaper". Biggest problem that I see is that the 2 solos are in the same song! It gets too boring - give Danny a bass solo in Godzilla and move the drum solo somewhere else. They've been doing a drum solo in Godzilla for over 20 years and it's time for a change. I think solos are fun, but back to back gets tedious. John From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Aug 23 08:33:43 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:33:43 -0400 Subject: So long and thanks for all the hawks Message-ID: At 07:27 AM 8/23/2000 EDT, Ted Jackson jr. wrote: >On 23 Aug 00, at 0:05, Andrew Apold wrote: > >> Also, a significant percentage of the B?C only fans have moved over to >> various B?C soley dedicated lists > >Can you give details on these lists? Sounds like something I'd like to >check out... I'm afraid not, I was aware of them being touted on alt.music.blueoystercult, if you ask there I'm sure you can find out. I haven't actively sought them out, though.... "Left behind by the latest trends... eating fried chicken with his regicidal friends... - "Porcelain Monkey" by Warren Zevon =============== Andrew Apold From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Aug 23 08:53:59 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:53:59 -0400 Subject: BOC: Other Lists (was Re: So long and thanks for all the hawks) In-Reply-To: <200008231233.IAA20136@issfire2.co.palm-beach.fl.us> Message-ID: Theo, Try the BOC Bulletin Board. I've heard that they're pretty active. http://www.j-and-a.com/forum/Ultimate.cgi?action=intro Brian > At 07:27 AM 8/23/2000 EDT, Ted Jackson jr. wrote: >> On 23 Aug 00, at 0:05, Andrew Apold wrote: >> >>> Also, a significant percentage of the B?C only fans have moved over to >>> various B?C soley dedicated lists >> >> Can you give details on these lists? Sounds like something I'd like to >> check out... > > I'm afraid not, I was aware of them being touted on alt.music.blueoystercult, > if you ask there I'm sure you can find out. I haven't actively sought them > out, though.... > > "Left behind by the latest trends... > eating fried chicken with his regicidal friends... > - "Porcelain Monkey" by Warren Zevon > =============== > Andrew Apold From clemens at TRAIL.COM Wed Aug 23 09:52:57 2000 From: clemens at TRAIL.COM (Clemens & Associates Inc) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 07:52:57 -0600 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: Bernhard, You can put me down as a maybe. Working on getting my passport and cheap airfare.. will keep you posted the other Mark L Santa Fe ----- Original Message ----- From: Pospiech, Bernhard To: Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 12:39 AM Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > Hi folks > > Here are so far the folks who will come to the BEEHIVE pub before > the Brixton gig on 21.10.2000 > > Is the BEEHIVE ok ? And where exactely is this pub ? Very close to the > Academy ? Near a TUBE station ? More infos from the LONDON folks please!!! > > 1) Andreas Stuewe > 2) Gaby Stuewe > 3) Rainer Wangler > 4) Bernhard Pospiech > 5) Andy Garibaldi > 6) Ben Fagin > 7) Eli Friedman > 8) Kevin Sommers > 9) Jon Jarret > 10) Mike Holmes > 11) Jill Strobridge > 12) Michael Blackman > 13) Merrick French > 14) Julie French > 15) Si ??? > 16) Eric Siegerman > 17) Nick ??? > 18) Dave Greenhalgh > 19) Mick ??? > 20) Kevin Perry > 21) John Stanton > 22) Sara Stanton > 23) Colm ??? > 24) Matt ??? > > Someone forgotten ? > > I suppose the pub will be filled up with HAWKWIND fans. WOW! > > > cheers > Bernhard > From paul-mitchell at KEECO-UK.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Aug 23 08:11:52 2000 From: paul-mitchell at KEECO-UK.DEMON.CO.UK (Paul Mitchell) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:11:52 +0100 Subject: Phone number for CDS in Glasgow In-Reply-To: <200008030950.KAA25319@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Does anyone have the number for CD Services in Glasgow - directory enquiries drew a blank! From slindsey at IDIRECT.COM Wed Aug 23 13:53:33 2000 From: slindsey at IDIRECT.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:53:33 -0700 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: >And probably count me in too! And me too, one more for the Canadian contingent Looking forward to meeting everyone after missing everyone at Derby last year... Steve Lindsey From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 23 11:58:12 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:58:12 +0100 Subject: Phone number for CDS in Glasgow In-Reply-To: Paul Mitchell's message of Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:11:52 +0100 Message-ID: Paul Mitchell writes: > Does anyone have the number for CD Services in Glasgow - directory > enquiries drew a blank! Is that Andy's CD Services in Dundee? 01382 776595 FoFP From mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM Wed Aug 23 12:55:40 2000 From: mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM (Matthew Braun) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 11:55:40 CDT Subject: BOC: Re: So long and thanks for all the hawks In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 23 Aug 2000 05:00:04 CDT." <200008230900.FAA22566@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Joseph Brooks writes: >Hi all.. Well, sorry to say that the BOC to HW content ratio on this list is >just too one sided.. I'm tired of deleting 25 posts and reading 1 or 2 per >day (thats on a good day and usually one of the 2 is my own...) (and Yes, I >just can't seem to get the hang of HW, never have..). I can't seem to get the hang of them, either (tho' the Surgeons' version of "Needle Gun" kicks some serious keyster...) I subscribe in digest mode, and if I don't see anything I'm interested in (in list of subject headers at the beginning of the digest) out it goes. One message, one delete--simple. If you like the multi-message mode, the subject-line filtering is supposed to take care of this. To see only in BOC and Brain Surgeons' material, you can tell the server: SET BOC-L TOPICS: BOC BRAIN and you'll get only mail with BOC or BRAIN in the subject line. Of course, this mechanism relies on a conscientious user population, who read the list's intro message, and is willing to annotate each mail message appropriately, so that they don't annoy folks who follow the other groups. By and large, the folks on this list DO abide by this guideline, making this one of the easiest-to-read (or not-read, as the case may be) lists I've seen. m@ +-mbraun at urbana.css.mot.com-+- Yes I know the secrets of the iron and mind ---+ | Matt Braun -- Motorola, | Their trinity acts a mineral fire. | | Urbana, IL Design Centre | Yes I know the secrets of the circuitry mind | +Simulation Technology Team-+--- It's a flaming wonder telepath... ----[BOC]+ From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Wed Aug 23 13:39:15 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 10:39:15 -0700 Subject: Other: Ok, I'm back Message-ID: I had forgotten about the filtering so I am now re-subbed with BOC BRAIN and OTHER as my filter. Hehe.. I was in a pissy mood I guess. I am not offended by HW posts, I just have little interest in them. Now if everyone remembers to use the filter headers in their topics (like me, I tend to forget..) I'll be a happy little list reader. JB From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Aug 23 13:58:22 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:58:22 EDT Subject: Other: Ok, I'm back Message-ID: YO, it's like you never left! heh "<>" From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Wed Aug 23 14:11:18 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 11:11:18 -0700 Subject: Other: Ok, I'm back Message-ID: LOL, I'm a fickle S.O.B., ain't I? JB > -----Original Message----- > From: DASLUD at AOL.COM [mailto:DASLUD at AOL.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 10:58 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Other: Ok, I'm back > > > YO, > it's like you never left! > > heh > "<>" > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Aug 23 14:21:49 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:21:49 -0400 Subject: OTHER: ADMIN: OFF: Ok, I'm back Message-ID: JB said... >I had forgotten about the filtering so I am now re-subbed with BOC BRAIN and >OTHER as my filter. What's OTHER? I thought we had HW: NIK: BOC: BRAIN: ADMIN: and OFF: - is it really OTHER: instead of OFF:, or are they interchangeable? 'Cause I've been using OFF: for several years now, and so has everyone else I've seen. Is that not correct? And are they case-sensitive? Grakkl (FAA) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Aug 23 15:27:16 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 12:27:16 -0700 Subject: OTHER: ADMIN: OFF: Ok, I'm back Message-ID: According to the join/leave boc-l page at: http://listserv.spc.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=boc-l&A=1 The only valid topic headings are: Boc Brain Hw Nik Other There is no OFF (or ADMIN) built into the automatic filtering, but adding those two headings to messages IS useful. Since the valid headings are listed in mixed case, I would assume that they're not case sensitive. -Doug ceres at sirius.com On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:21:49 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >What's OTHER? I thought we had HW: NIK: BOC: BRAIN: ADMIN: and OFF: - is it >really OTHER: instead of OFF:, or are they interchangeable? 'Cause I've >been using OFF: for several years now, and so has everyone else I've seen. >Is that not correct? > >And are they case-sensitive? From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Wed Aug 23 15:38:35 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 12:38:35 -0700 Subject: OTHER: ADMIN: OFF: Ok, I'm back Message-ID: Pasted from the BOC-L welcome message: -=-snip-=- The current crop of topics which can be selected/specified are: BOC Blue Oyster Cult-specific HW Hawkwind-specific BRAIN Brain Surgeons-specific NIK NikWind-specific OTHER Everything not specifically flagged as a topic ALL Everything (This is the default topic filter) -=-snip-=- So as you can see, OFF should fall under the OTHER catagory since it is not one of the other tags. So I would think that OFF is fine.. easy enough, eh? JB > -----Original Message----- > From: K Henderson [mailto:henderson.120 at OSU.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 11:22 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OTHER: ADMIN: OFF: Ok, I'm back > > > JB said... > > >I had forgotten about the filtering so I am now re-subbed > with BOC BRAIN and > >OTHER as my filter. > > What's OTHER? I thought we had HW: NIK: BOC: BRAIN: ADMIN: > and OFF: - is it > really OTHER: instead of OFF:, or are they interchangeable? > 'Cause I've > been using OFF: for several years now, and so has everyone > else I've seen. > Is that not correct? > > And are they case-sensitive? > > Grakkl (FAA) > From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Wed Aug 23 20:44:12 2000 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:44:12 BST Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: Hello everyone, Thanks for the comments regarding Ticketweb, I'm happier knowing that others are satisfied with their service. I must have missed the 'within 10 days' bit on their site, I was going off the info on their confirmation. By the sound of it its going to take about 3 hours to get served in the Beehive - I must make sure to get a few down on the way there! Cheers Mick. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Aug 23 15:44:49 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:44:49 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" 8/19/00 (ST 37 Interview this SAT) Message-ID: ANNOUNCEMENT FOR 8/26/00--I will be talking to ST 37 around 5:30 PST!) 8/19/00 1.AMP--One Hopes In Uncertainty (Astral Moonbeam Projections) 2.Quarkspace--Bonzo's G.S.B. 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From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Wed Aug 23 16:20:11 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 13:20:11 -0700 Subject: So long and thanks for all the hawks Message-ID: Now that I'm back, I wanna help keep the ball rolling so... (this was the last mail I received before unsubbing..) > (hands in pocket, looks glumly around....) I'm as guilty as anyone. > so, anyone want to start a B?C brawl? vote for > your favorite tunes? (hey, how do you make the umlauts?) Limiting it to 5 and in no particular order: 1. Harvester of Eyes (Love the guitars in this one) 2. Flaming Telepaths/Astronomy 3. The Vigil 4. Mistress of the Salmon Salt (The "Coast Guard crews" line still gives me chills for some reason) 5. Black Blade (Silly fucking humans) Honorable mention: The Imaginos version The Subhuman (Blue Oyster Cult) and several other Imaginos songs. > > > Are there hidden references to Imaginos in any songs > by Keanu Reave's band Dogstar? discuss. Eh? I didn't even know he had a band hehe > > let's dissect the song "Light Years of Love", including > all references to anything by SWU, Oaxaca or SFG songs.... Never heard of it, sorry > > > Morning Final - is there a vampire reference here? > I'd have to review the lyrics. > > Is Eric still playing Gemstone warrior or is he now on > Everquest, Asheron's Call or Ultima online? Which server/shard, > if so? I wish he was playing EQ and on a PvP server hehe. On a side note, can anyone guess the name of my EQ mage character? (I guess the name police on EQ are not BOC fans, in nearly 2 years of playing, only two people have recognized the name.. Hmm, one of which I told about this list.. maybe he's reading this..) > > Do the Bass and Drum solos in present-day B?C serve any purpose other > than to give the rest of the band a breather? Or are > they still > valid crowd pleasers? Musical spam. Not to take anything away from the skill of the players in question but 90% of most crowds (I suspect) could do without them. And truth to tell, though its never been true for me, I know many folks would say the same even back in the day.. (this is true for ANY band). "What ever you do, take care of your shoes..." - Phish JB From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 23 16:16:43 2000 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 21:16:43 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton meeting. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I voted for Hurry On Sundown and Out Of The Shadows. Dunno if I'll be there yet, but I'm hoping to be. Do we know the line-up(s?) and support bands yet? Dave. From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Aug 23 16:58:51 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:58:51 -0400 Subject: So long and thanks for all the hawks Message-ID: >> Is Eric still playing Gemstone warrior or is he now on >> Everquest, Asheron's Call or Ultima online? Which server/shard, >> if so? > >I wish he was playing EQ and on a PvP server hehe. On a side note, can >anyone guess the name of my EQ mage character? (I guess the name police on >EQ are not BOC fans, in nearly 2 years of playing, only two people have >recognized the name.. Hmm, one of which I told about this list.. maybe he's >reading this..) My guesses: 1. Imaginos (would be my pick) 2. Harvester of Eyes (hey, it was listed as your top song) 3. The Fireclown (heh, his casting spells uses "Great Sun Gesture") 4. Jesse Python (heheheh) 5 Sir Rastus Bear (might try it but not on a mage character)... elric would of course be way too obvious to name police. "I'm told that it's my duty to fight against the law... That wizardry's my trade and I was born to wade through gore..." From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Wed Aug 23 17:11:06 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:11:06 -0700 Subject: So long and thanks for all the hawks Message-ID: > > My guesses: > > 1. Imaginos (would be my pick) Give the man a cigar.. "Its so lonely, honey, in the state of Maine" - BOC From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 23 17:18:19 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 22:18:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: the pub? - by my reckoning aren't we near to needing Wembley Stadium!!!!!!! Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denis Regenbrecht" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 9:28 AM Subject: Re: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > Hi, > > >[snip _very_ long list] > > 25) Denis Regenbrecht > 26) Kristin Regenbrecht > > >I suppose the pub will be filled up with HAWKWIND fans. WOW! > > Sounds like a lot of fun. > > (c)IAO > > D+R From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 23 17:16:16 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 22:16:16 +0100 Subject: BOC: So long and thanks for all the hawks Message-ID: Hey - just for kicks why don't we get the bands to do a split CD - BOC do Hawkwind tracks and Hawkwind do BOC tracks - now there's a prospect - BOC doing 'Brainstorm' while the Hawks find some way of doing 'ME262' - a mouth-watering prospect that could turn out ot be anything from amazing to side-splitting - I'd love to hear it, that's for sure. Keep the dual identity - we all need variation in our lives. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Halligan" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 10:01 PM Subject: Re: BOC: So long and thanks for all the hawks > Sorry to see you go. Hey, at least come back when the new album gets > released.... > > >> I strongly suggest to the List Owner(s) that you change the name to > >> something like hawkwind-L. I know that the list is for both bands according > >> to the FAQ but is that really true anymore? BOC is a side issue at best here > >> now. I will miss the occasional AB post and the ever so knowledgable BOC > >> folks/fans here. > >> > >> I don't blame anyone, its not our fault that pretty much nothing much left > >> to say about BOC. Not much happening to talk about. > > > > (hands in pocket, looks glumly around....) > > > > so, anyone want to start a B?C brawl? vote for > > your favorite tunes? > > OK. I've got 12 minutes to kill. :-) > D&S (original version) > tR&tB (T&M version and OYFoOYK version equally) > Reaper (AoF version- a.k.a. the one without the TV Mix...) > > > Are there hidden references to Imaginos in any songs > > by Keanu Reave's band Dogstar? discuss. > > "And don't forget my dog, fixed and consequent." (Beeteljeuce (sp?) the "dog > star.") Obviously Keanu is a major BOC fan. In fact, in Bill & Ted 2, Bill > says to Ted (Keanu), "don't fear the reaper" when the pair defeat death to > return to the land of the living. Dude. > > > let's dissect the song "Light Years of Love", including > > all references to anything by SWU, Oaxaca or SFG songs.... > > Yes. > > > Morning Final - is there a vampire reference here? > > Nope. "For the last time he felt the light and gave up his last fight." He's > not giving up because the light is hurting him. He actually enjoys the > light. Sometimes he has a picnic in the summertime when the light is very > bright and the result is very pleasing to him, even though he ran out of > mustard- though that part was cut from the original lyrics.... > > > Is Eric still playing Gemstone warrior or is he now on > > Everquest, Asheron's Call or Ultima online? Which server/shard, > > if so? > > Quake III. He goes by the name "U.V. Reflector" > > > Do the Bass and Drum solos in present-day B?C serve any purpose other > > than to give the rest of the band a breather? Or are they still > > valid crowd pleasers? > > It's an initiation right for the "new" guys. Ah, hazing.... > > > OK. Time's up. > Brian > > > > "Left behind by the latest trends... > > eating fried chicken with his regicidal friends... > > - "Porcelain Monkey" by Warren Zevon > > =============== > > Andrew Apold From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 23 17:37:32 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 22:37:32 +0100 Subject: Phone number for CDS in Glasgow Message-ID: Ah yes- not for nothing are we 'the best kept mail order secret in the western world' - we've never heard of the word 'advertising' you see - call me (Andy G) on 01382-776595 9am-5pm Mon-Fri Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mitchell" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 1:11 PM Subject: Phone number for CDS in Glasgow > Does anyone have the number for CD Services in Glasgow - directory > enquiries drew a blank! From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Wed Aug 23 17:37:30 2000 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:37:30 -0700 Subject: So long and thanks for all the hawks Message-ID: > 3. The Fireclown (heh, his casting spells uses "Great Sun Gesture") Ouch, you ought to be shot for that one....! (Actually I admire really rank puns, the more pungent the better!) scorch From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Wed Aug 23 17:51:29 2000 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 22:51:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Rainbow 81 Message-ID: Hi, This is in response to Andre's request for more info. Er, what can I tell you 19 years after the event? I think was snowing (although that's largely irrelevant, but kinda sets the scene). This was, of course, back in the days when HW were still commanding large crowds at prestigious venues, so the sense of occasion was overwhelming. I was thrilled to be at the legendary Rainbow. The tape of the show tells the story of the gig really. There was no hint beforehand that Bob, Nik & Mike would turn up so I was amazed when bob stepped on stage. I don't think I really knew it was him until he spoke. His attire evades my memory now, possibly combat-ish gear, but wouldn't bet on it. Talk of Nik and then him appearing on stage had me in a complete state of Nirvana. The duo spot that they performed was absolute tripe, as the tape testifies, but that didn't matter, we had 2 HW legends on stage. This was my first sighting of Nik with HW (although I'd seen ICU is 1980), I'd seen Bob in Hawklords days, but wouln't have been able to pick him out from an identity parade. The lighting and effects for these 2 was minimal, and it wouldn't surprise me if the whole idea had only had 10 mins planning put into it. Anyway, they had fun and the audience loved it. There was only a short break before the gig proper started, and what a gig it was, still one of my favourites from over 50 gigs since 1978. The Astral Projections were astounding, the performance out-standing, the inclusion of the 3 legends throughout amazing. And all during the Xmas holidays. What more can I say? This is the gig that sound have been released on video. I took a trip down Portabello Rd and found The Mountain Grill restaurant the next day. Those were the days. "Jumpers for goalposts" as someone on the list recently said, which still makes me laugh! Anybody going to The Victoria in Derby on Friday for Hasbeen/Spacehead/Time Brothers? (Apart from Mark Lee & myself that is). Jez Dacombe ----- Original Message ----- From: cosmos To: Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 7:26 PM Subject: Re: HW: Real titles > >Hi, > >Does anyone know the proper titles for the following HW/Moorcock poems? > >It should be obvious from these "working titles" which poems I'm referring > >to : > > > >My Armour's Killing Me > >The Fireclown > >The Timeship > > > >They were all performed at Rainbow on 18.12.81, which I had the great good > >fortune to have been at! > >Cheers, > >Jez > > hi jez > good that you were at this special gig. > can you tell us some more about this gig. > if i remember well calvert, turner and moorcock were there all 3 as guests. > i like to hear something about the overture they did before the actual gig. > > thanks > > andre > From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Wed Aug 23 18:04:44 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 15:04:44 -0700 Subject: Off: PUNishment Message-ID: Heh, reminds me of a time, long ago when discussing BOC with a co-worker when an older gentleman that was working near us asked if Blue Oyster Cult was a restaurant. This lead to at least an hours worth of bad pun fun, like, you could call the waitresses, 7 Screaming Dish Busters, serve Cagey Croutons with the salad.. and on and on.. wish I could remember them all, some were quite funny.. (at least they were back in my smokin' days..) JB > -----Original Message----- > From: John H. McCartney [mailto:scorch at TE-CATS.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 2:38 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: So long and thanks for all the hawks > > > > 3. The Fireclown (heh, his casting spells uses "Great Sun Gesture") > > > Ouch, you ought to be shot for that one....! > > (Actually I admire really rank puns, the more pungent the better!) > > > > scorch > From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Wed Aug 23 18:04:32 2000 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 00:04:32 +0200 Subject: HW: Rainbow 81 In-Reply-To: <009601c00d4c$6a6a4980$367c883e@jezd> Message-ID: >Hi, >This is in response to Andre's request for more info. > >Er, what can I tell you 19 years after the event? >I think was snowing (although that's largely irrelevant, but kinda sets the >scene). >This was, of course, back in the days when HW were still commanding large >crowds at prestigious venues, so the sense of occasion was overwhelming. >I was thrilled to be at the legendary Rainbow. >The tape of the show tells the story of the gig really. >There was no hint beforehand that Bob, Nik & Mike would turn up so I was >amazed when bob stepped on stage. >I don't think I really knew it was him until he spoke. >His attire evades my memory now, possibly combat-ish gear, but wouldn't bet >on it. >Talk of Nik and then him appearing on stage had me in a complete state of >Nirvana. >The duo spot that they performed was absolute tripe, as the tape testifies, >but that didn't matter, we had 2 HW legends on stage. This was my first >sighting of Nik with HW (although I'd seen ICU is 1980), I'd seen Bob in >Hawklords days, but wouln't have been able to pick him out from an identity >parade. >The lighting and effects for these 2 was minimal, and it wouldn't surprise >me if the whole idea had only had 10 mins planning put into it. >Anyway, they had fun and the audience loved it. >There was only a short break before the gig proper started, and what a gig >it was, still one of my favourites from over 50 gigs since 1978. >The Astral Projections were astounding, the performance out-standing, the >inclusion of the 3 legends throughout amazing. >And all during the Xmas holidays. >What more can I say? >This is the gig that sound have been released on video. >I took a trip down Portabello Rd and found The Mountain Grill restaurant the >next day. >Those were the days. >"Jumpers for goalposts" as someone on the list recently said, which still >makes me laugh! >Anybody going to The Victoria in Derby on Friday for Hasbeen/Spacehead/Time >Brothers? >(Apart from Mark Lee & myself that is). >Jez Dacombe Hi jeze many thanks for sharing this story of this indeed legendary gig. yes it's certainly worth a video. by the way your name still sounds familiar to me. didn't we trade hawkwind tapes in the 80's. i guess your name is jeremy .............. andr? From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Aug 23 18:11:39 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 18:11:39 -0400 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) In-Reply-To: <00a801c00d48$86b83740$d05295c1@s8d3c4>; from andygee@DIAL.PIPEX.COM on Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 10:18:19PM +0100 Message-ID: I wish! And so does Dave, I imagine :-/ On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 10:18:19PM +0100, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > the pub? - by my reckoning aren't we near to needing Wembley Stadium!!!!!!! > Andy Garibaldi. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Denis Regenbrecht" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 9:28 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > > > > Hi, > > > > >[snip _very_ long list] > > > > 25) Denis Regenbrecht > > 26) Kristin Regenbrecht > > > > >I suppose the pub will be filled up with HAWKWIND fans. WOW! > > > > Sounds like a lot of fun. > > > > (c)IAO > > > > D+R -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft -- but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft. - Chris Garrigues From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Aug 23 18:18:30 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 18:18:30 -0400 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig In-Reply-To: <00a801c00c7b$ef164a20$f00d893e@jds>; from jill@THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK on Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:59:58PM +0100 Message-ID: On Wed, Aug 23, 2000 at 08:39:20AM +0200, Pospiech, Bernhard wrote: > I suppose the pub will be filled up with HAWKWIND fans. WOW! On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 09:59:58PM +0100, Jill Strobridge wrote: > Also does anyone know if there's a safe b&b area not too far from the > venue? Maybe we should do the same for sleeping accomodations as for drinking ones -- all book into the same hotel/b&b too, and make a monstrous floor party out of it. (Maybe if we tell them we're a Hawkwind Convention we'll get a group rate :-) > Can't decide what to vote for...............8-( Me neither. Well, I know one of them -- SG28948 -- but... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft -- but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft. - Chris Garrigues From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Wed Aug 23 18:34:41 2000 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 18:34:41 -0400 Subject: Brixton Gig./ American HW fans Message-ID: Are there any U.S. Hawk fans going? I'm trying to coordinate things; it would be great to go with other HW fans. Talk about a trip! Dan Ductor Los Angeles HW fan -----Original Message----- From: Pospiech, Bernhard [SMTP:Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 11:39 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Hi folks Here are so far the folks who will come to the BEEHIVE pub before the Brixton gig on 21.10.2000 Is the BEEHIVE ok ? And where exactely is this pub ? Very close to the Academy ? Near a TUBE station ? More infos from the LONDON folks please!!! 1) Andreas Stuewe 2) Gaby Stuewe 3) Rainer Wangler 4) Bernhard Pospiech 5) Andy Garibaldi 6) Ben Fagin 7) Eli Friedman 8) Kevin Sommers 9) Jon Jarret 10) Mike Holmes 11) Jill Strobridge 12) Michael Blackman 13) Merrick French 14) Julie French 15) Si ??? 16) Eric Siegerman 17) Nick ??? 18) Dave Greenhalgh 19) Mick ??? 20) Kevin Perry 21) John Stanton 22) Sara Stanton 23) Colm ??? 24) Matt ??? Someone forgotten ? I suppose the pub will be filled up with HAWKWIND fans. WOW! cheers Bernhard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbono at RCN.COM Wed Aug 23 18:55:17 2000 From: jbono at RCN.COM (John) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 18:55:17 -0400 Subject: unsubscribe Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Wed Aug 23 18:07:19 2000 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:07:19 +1100 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: On 23 Aug 2000, at 9:49, Andy Gilham wrote: (BeeHive) > It's always packed when there's a show at the Academy - with 4,000 > fans of whoever in the area, no wonder! You should have seen it when > the Ramones played, but I'll let Paul tell that story... I'm still amazed you found me so easily ... me and my bright ideas "I'lll be the one in the Leather Jacket!" :-) Incidentally ... grabbing a cab after the gig proved difficult .... I ended up walking about two or three miles back towards the B&B I was staying before I bus went past. Wish I could do teh same in Hawktober :( S. From flossbac at NLCI.COM Wed Aug 23 19:16:22 2000 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 18:16:22 -0500 Subject: Brixton Gig./ American HW fans Message-ID: Brixton Gig./ American HW fans I've been trying to think of a way to maybe go to the show....I need to check into the rates for airfare etc...I'm actually at an economic nadir right now, so anything other than "cheap" is out of the question. John Majka Are there any U.S. Hawk fans going? I'm trying to coordinate things; it would be great to go with other HW fans. Talk about a trip! Dan Ductor Los Angeles HW fan -----Original Message----- From: Pospiech, Bernhard [SMTP:Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 11:39 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Hi folks Here are so far the folks who will come to the BEEHIVE pub before the Brixton gig on 21.10.2000 Is the BEEHIVE ok ? And where exactely is this pub ? Very close to the Academy ? Near a TUBE station ? More infos from the LONDON folks please!!! 1) Andreas Stuewe 2) Gaby Stuewe 3) Rainer Wangler 4) Bernhard Pospiech 5) Andy Garibaldi 6) Ben Fagin 7) Eli Friedman 8) Kevin Sommers 9) Jon Jarret 10) Mike Holmes 11) Jill Strobridge 12) Michael Blackman 13) Merrick French 14) Julie French 15) Si ??? 16) Eric Siegerman 17) Nick ??? 18) Dave Greenhalgh 19) Mick ??? 20) Kevin Perry 21) John Stanton 22) Sara Stanton 23) Colm ??? 24) Matt ??? Someone forgotten ? I suppose the pub will be filled up with HAWKWIND fans. WOW! cheers Bernhard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 23 19:46:14 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 00:46:14 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: and I'll be the one in the orange t-shirt that looks more like something you'd wear in prison!!!! Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sonique" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 11:07 PM Subject: Re: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > On 23 Aug 2000, at 9:49, Andy Gilham wrote: > > (BeeHive) > > It's always packed when there's a show at the Academy - with 4,000 > > fans of whoever in the area, no wonder! You should have seen it when > > the Ramones played, but I'll let Paul tell that story... > > I'm still amazed you found me so easily ... me and my bright ideas "I'lll be the one in the Leather > Jacket!" :-) > > Incidentally ... grabbing a cab after the gig proved difficult .... I ended up walking about two or three > miles back towards the B&B I was staying before I bus went past. Wish I could do teh same in > Hawktober :( > > S. From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Wed Aug 23 20:01:08 2000 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:01:08 EDT Subject: So long and thanks for all the hawks(5 fav BOC tunes) Message-ID: My favorite BOC tunes are: 1. Me 262 2. Godzilla 3. Veteran of the Psychic Lords 4. Black Blade 5. anything on Imaginos I never thought so. After Dark, though . . . Stick around Mr. B. I seem to recall that when I joined the list, it was more BOC than HW. Cycles for everything, I guess. "The Revolution by Night Grant me this future Kings of the Shadow On the highways of Night" From kruch at PINN.NET Wed Aug 23 20:21:17 2000 From: kruch at PINN.NET (Joseph Elric Smith Servant to Arioch) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:21:17 -0400 Subject: So long and thanks for all the hawks(5 fav BOC tunes) Message-ID: I think: in the Dark, hopefully the title going from memory, is a great one and also influenced my mr. M as arioch is know as the lord of the 7 darks etc. I also enjoy all the others on your list ken who usually never post and just reads Joe Loehr wrote: > My favorite BOC tunes are: > 1. Me 262 > 2. Godzilla > 3. Veteran of the Psychic Lords > 4. Black Blade > 5. anything on Imaginos > From tclark at PETRONET.NET Wed Aug 23 20:06:40 2000 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 19:06:40 -0500 Subject: Brixton Gig./ American HW fans Message-ID: Hey Dan! I think I'm going...naaah...I know I'm going. . Checking out flights now. Seems that the cheapest way to go is to leave on the Friday, and return on the 23rd. I found the best ticket prices at http://www.cheaptickets.com . Let's keep in touch as to possible ticket deals, promotions, etc..... "Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]" wrote: > > > Are there any U.S. Hawk fans going? I'm trying to coordinate things; > it would be > great to go with other HW fans. Talk about a trip! > > Dan Ductor > Los Angeles HW fan > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pospiech, Bernhard [SMTP:Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 11:39 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > > Hi folks > > Here are so far the folks who will come to the BEEHIVE pub before > > the Brixton gig on 21.10.2000 > > Is the BEEHIVE ok ? And where exactely is this pub ? Very close > to the > Academy ? Near a TUBE station ? More infos from the LONDON folks > please!!! > > 1) Andreas Stuewe > 2) Gaby Stuewe > 3) Rainer Wangler > 4) Bernhard Pospiech > 5) Andy Garibaldi > 6) Ben Fagin > 7) Eli Friedman > 8) Kevin Sommers > 9) Jon Jarret > 10) Mike Holmes > 11) Jill Strobridge > 12) Michael Blackman > 13) Merrick French > 14) Julie French > 15) Si ??? > 16) Eric Siegerman > 17) Nick ??? > 18) Dave Greenhalgh > 19) Mick ??? > 20) Kevin Perry > 21) John Stanton > 22) Sara Stanton > 23) Colm ??? > 24) Matt ??? > > Someone forgotten ? > > I suppose the pub will be filled up with HAWKWIND fans. WOW! > > cheers > Bernhard > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Wed Aug 23 20:10:20 2000 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:10:20 EDT Subject: BOC DVD Message-ID: Does anyone else have the 'Blue ?yster Cult Live 1976' DVD? (silly question, maybe, but tryin' to keep it BOC) If y'all do, what do you think of it? I love it Joe Loehr From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Wed Aug 23 22:06:27 2000 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 22:06:27 EDT Subject: So long and thanks for all the hawks(5 fav BOC tunes) Message-ID: < 3. Veteran of the Psychic Lords> Hoky Smokes! What was I thinking? Veteran of the Psychic Wars There's also a song on the From dusk 'Til Dawn soundtrack that's called After Dark. Also about fooling around with a vamp. Joe From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Wed Aug 23 20:22:09 2000 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:22:09 -0400 Subject: Brixton Gig./ American HW fans Message-ID: Tom Clark- I'm just trying to tie up some loose ends. Let's keep in touch. And to any other US HW fans. Let's get motivated! Dr. Ductor -----Original Message----- From: Tom Clark [SMTP:tclark at PETRONET.NET] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 5:07 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Brixton Gig./ American HW fans Hey Dan! I think I'm going...naaah...I know I'm going. . Checking out flights now. Seems that the cheapest way to go is to leave on the Friday, and return on the 23rd. I found the best ticket prices at http://www.cheaptickets.com . Let's keep in touch as to possible ticket deals, promotions, etc..... "Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]" wrote: Are there any U.S. Hawk fans going? I'm trying to coordinate things; it would be great to go with other HW fans. Talk about a trip! Dan Ductor Los Angeles HW fan -----Original Message----- From: Pospiech, Bernhard [SMTP:Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 11:39 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Hi folks Here are so far the folks who will come to the BEEHIVE pub before the Brixton gig on 21.10.2000 Is the BEEHIVE ok ? And where exactely is this pub ? Very close to the Academy ? Near a TUBE station ? More infos from the LONDON folks please!!! 1) Andreas Stuewe 2) Gaby Stuewe 3) Rainer Wangler 4) Bernhard Pospiech 5) Andy Garibaldi 6) Ben Fagin 7) Eli Friedman 8) Kevin Sommers 9) Jon Jarret 10) Mike Holmes 11) Jill Strobridge 12) Michael Blackman 13) Merrick French 14) Julie French 15) Si ??? 16) Eric Siegerman 17) Nick ??? 18) Dave Greenhalgh 19) Mick ??? 20) Kevin Perry 21) John Stanton 22) Sara Stanton 23) Colm ??? 24) Matt ??? Someone forgotten ? I suppose the pub will be filled up with HAWKWIND fans. WOW! cheers Bernhard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jbono at RCN.COM Wed Aug 23 23:19:22 2000 From: jbono at RCN.COM (John) Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 23:19:22 -0400 Subject: No subject Message-ID: unsubscribe BOC-L -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Thu Aug 24 01:48:32 2000 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 07:48:32 +0200 Subject: HW: UPDATE - Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: Hi folks Here is the updated list (Hey Andy, you are right. Maybe we should choose the Wembley Stadium ;-)) 1) Andreas Stuewe 2) Gaby Stuewe 3) Rainer Wangler 4) Bernhard Pospiech 5) Andy Garibaldi 6) Ben Fagin 7) Eli Friedman 8) Kevin Sommers 9) Jon Jarret 10) Mike Holmes 11) Jill Strobridge 12) Michael Blackman 13) Merrick French 14) Julie French 15) Si ??? 16) Eric Siegerman 17) Nick ??? 18) Dave Greenhalgh 19) Mick ??? 20) Kevin Perry 21) John Stanton 22) Sara Stanton 23) Colm ??? 24) Matt ??? 25) Denni Regenbrecht 26) Kristin Regenbrecht 27) Iain Ferguson + Friends 28 ) Dave Bottomley 29) Rick Lockwood 30) Scott Heller 31) Carl Anderson 32) Stephen Lindsay 33) Chris Warburton 34) Mark L. Someone forgotten ? Most of you folks are comming from UK. The others are from: USA, CANADA, GERMANY, AUSTRALIA cheers Bernhard From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Aug 24 03:26:32 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 08:26:32 +0100 Subject: HW: UPDATE - Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) In-Reply-To: <043D0206B66DD311BC2500600878D936BBC5FB@VEG12_EXCH> Message-ID: In article <043D0206B66DD311BC2500600878D936BBC5FB at VEG12_EXCH>, Pospiech, Bernhard writes > > >Someone forgotten ? I'm in, too. cheers -- Jon From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Aug 24 04:39:15 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:39:15 +0100 Subject: HW: UPDATE - Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: > 29) Rick Lockwood Please - not "Rick". It implies a silent "P". :-) Cheers, Rich. ObListening - The Fugs-Slum Goddess From The Lower East Side __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Thu Aug 24 04:39:50 2000 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:39:50 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Message-ID: For the record 29) Mark Lee 30) Martyn Needham My votes were for Needle Gun and Space is Deep. BTW, who's going to see me and Jez on Friday then ? (Yes I know it should read Jez and I) Mark (Hasbeen) From m.french at DCS.SHEF.AC.UK Thu Aug 24 04:53:33 2000 From: m.french at DCS.SHEF.AC.UK (Merrick Martin French) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:53:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: what about designing a name badge for everyone (downloadable via the web ) I'm afaid I can't do it as my artistic merits are about the same standard as the russian submarine service !! I'm also thinking about getting the band a pressy for all those years of pleasure the music has given me. love, light and peace Merrick & Julie French From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Aug 24 04:56:48 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:56:48 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: > By the sound of it its going to take about 3 hours to get served in the Beehive - I must make sure to get a few down on the way there! > Again - I'd strongly suggest meeting elsewhere. The Beehive gets ****ing heaving. Even if we have to leave the pub a bit earlier. Cheers, Rich. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Aug 24 05:08:17 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:08:17 +0100 Subject: off: Pedantry Message-ID: > > BTW, who's going to see me and Jez on Friday then ? > > (Yes I know it should read Jez and I) > > Mark (Hasbeen) No it shouldn't. Jez and I went to the Gig. Everyone came to the gig to see me and Jez. Subject / object thingy. Cheers, Rich. (Donning the mantle of pedantry) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK Thu Aug 24 05:04:21 2000 From: cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:04:21 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: What an excellent idea, anybody feeling creative? ChrisW (Similarly unartistic) > -----Original Message----- > From: Merrick Martin French [mailto:m.french at DCS.SHEF.AC.UK] > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 9:54 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > > > what about designing a name badge for everyone (downloadable > via the web ) I'm > afaid I can't do it as my artistic merits are about the same > standard as the > russian submarine service !! > > I'm also thinking about getting the band a pressy for all > those years of > pleasure the music has given me. > > love, light and peace > > Merrick & Julie French > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Aug 24 05:42:27 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:12:27 +0930 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: Apologies to anyone who doesn't want this file How about this?? Any suggestions? I could probably have them made up pretty cheap say as badges and mail them out ----- Original Message ----- From: Merrick Martin French To: Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 6:23 PM Subject: Re: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > what about designing a name badge for everyone (downloadable via the web ) I'm > afaid I can't do it as my artistic merits are about the same standard as the > russian submarine service !! > > I'm also thinking about getting the band a pressy for all those years of > pleasure the music has given me. > > love, light and peace > > Merrick & Julie French -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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ChrisW (Similarly unartistic) > -----Original Message----- > From: Merrick Martin French [mailto:m.french at DCS.SHEF.AC.UK] > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 9:54 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > > > what about designing a name badge for everyone (downloadable > via the web ) I'm > afaid I can't do it as my artistic merits are about the same > standard as the > russian submarine service !! > > I'm also thinking about getting the band a pressy for all > those years of > pleasure the music has given me. > > love, light and peace > > Merrick & Julie French > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Aug 24 07:28:03 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 07:28:03 EDT Subject: So long and thanks for all the hawks In-Reply-To: <4973895A322CD411A6B000A0C96E9611207368@C2> Message-ID: On 23 Aug 00, at 13:20, Joseph Brooks wrote: Hey, Welcome Back! > Limiting it to 5 and in no particular order: > > 1. Harvester of Eyes (Love the guitars in this one) > 2. Flaming Telepaths/Astronomy > 3. The Vigil > 4. Mistress of the Salmon Salt (The "Coast Guard crews" line still > gives me chills for some reason) 5. Black Blade (Silly fucking humans) This is tough, as there are 2 categories for me: best performance vs. songs that originally hooked me on the band--in fact that might be another thread... But here goes [again, in no particular order]: Stairway To the Stars [1st album version] Dominance and Submission [Secret Treaties version] Flaming Telepaths [From any recent tour--the current live version of this song is as good as music gets] Last Days of May [Rich Stadium with full laser show] Reaper [current version with BD intro] Ask me next week and you might get a defferent five, though Flaming Telepaths will always be there! theo From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Aug 24 08:01:37 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 08:01:37 -0400 Subject: BOC: So long and thanks for all the hawks Message-ID: side note - put BOC: back on the subject tag, now that we have some BOC discussion going... >Ask me next week and you might get a defferent five, though Flaming >Telepaths will always be there! Have to agree with you there. My 5: Flaming Telepaths Astronomy (live '76 version) Veteran of the Psychic Wars (ETL version) Last Days of May Death Valley Nights "Left behind by the latest trends... eating fried chicken with his regicidal friends... - "Porcelain Monkey" by Warren Zevon =============== Andrew Apold From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Thu Aug 24 08:04:44 2000 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 23:04:44 +1100 Subject: HW: (OFF) Reefer Madness film Message-ID: Just happened to stumble across Reefer Madness for those who haven't seen it: http://movieflix.com/cgi-bin/action.pl?movie_info=1&movie_id=118 S. From paul-mitchell at KEECO-UK.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Aug 24 09:49:08 2000 From: paul-mitchell at KEECO-UK.DEMON.CO.UK (Paul Mitchell) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 14:49:08 +0100 Subject: Phone number for CDS in Glasgow In-Reply-To: <200008231558.QAA17572@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Yes it is - and I now can proclaim myself "dullard of the week" on the basis of not knowing my Glasgow from my Dundee. Thanks! In message <200008231558.QAA17572 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >Paul Mitchell writes: > >> Does anyone have the number for CD Services in Glasgow - directory >> enquiries drew a blank! > >Is that Andy's CD Services in Dundee? > >01382 776595 > >FoFP -- Paul Mitchell From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 24 10:06:13 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:06:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig In-Reply-To: Michael Crook's message of Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:44:12 BST Message-ID: Michael Crook writes: > By the sound of it its going to take about 3 hours to get served in > the Beehive - I must make sure to get a few down on the way there! Anyone for a Hawkwind pubmeet prior to the Beehive? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 24 10:07:06 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 15:07:06 +0100 Subject: So long and thanks for all the hawks In-Reply-To: Joseph Brooks's message of Wed, 23 Aug 2000 14:11:06 -0700 Message-ID: Joseph Brooks writes: > > > > My guesses: > > > > 1. Imaginos (would be my pick) > > Give the man a cigar.. That's what Monica said. FoFP From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Thu Aug 24 10:07:11 2000 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:07:11 -0400 Subject: Ozrics: Ozrics in NYC Message-ID: The Wetlands in NYC have announced and are advertising two nights with Ozric Tentacles, Friday and Saturday Oct.27 and 28. These are the first confirmed U.S. shows that I'm aware of. From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu Aug 24 10:23:39 2000 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 22:23:39 +0800 Subject: HW: Brixton meeting. Message-ID: Hi there Let's hope that for all of us who can't be there that this unique event is to be recorded by some method or another. I'd love to see it all released as a DVD??? I know it won't happen, but maybe if someone suggests such a thing, someone out there will consider recording it! William ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Berry" To: Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 4:16 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton meeting. > I voted for Hurry On Sundown and Out Of The Shadows. > > Dunno if I'll be there yet, but I'm hoping to be. Do we know the > line-up(s?) and support bands yet? > > Dave. > From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Thu Aug 24 10:57:05 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 07:57:05 -0700 Subject: BOC DVD Message-ID: The big question is, where'd you get it? I've been looking for that *in any format* for a long time. JB > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Loehr [mailto:JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 5:10 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: BOC DVD > > > Does anyone else have the 'Blue ?yster Cult Live 1976' DVD? > (silly question, > maybe, but tryin' to keep it BOC) > If y'all do, what do you think of it? > > I love it > > Joe Loehr > From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Thu Aug 24 11:24:20 2000 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:24:20 EDT Subject: BOC DVD Message-ID: I bought my copy at the mall, at Suncoast Motion Picture Company, for about $25. I just checked my crystal ball, and Amazon.com has it for $21.49, Tower Records.com has it for $18.99. CDNow.com has something titled 'Live 1976'( doesn't say if it's BOC) for $19.99. The track lineup is: Stairway to the Stars Harvester of Eyes Cities on Flame Me 262 Dominance and Submission Astronomy E. T. I. Buck's Boogie This Ain't the Summer of Love Born to be Wild Don't Fear the Reaper Joe From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Thu Aug 24 11:52:09 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 08:52:09 -0700 Subject: BOC DVD Message-ID: Thanks.. I guess I just don't have the hang of on-line shopping yet. I never think of looking there. JB > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Loehr [mailto:JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM] > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 8:24 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: BOC DVD > > > I bought my copy at the mall, at Suncoast Motion Picture > Company, for about > $25. > I just checked my crystal ball, and Amazon.com has it for > $21.49, Tower > Records.com has it for $18.99. CDNow.com has something titled > 'Live 1976'( > doesn't say if it's BOC) for $19.99. > > The track lineup is: > Stairway to the Stars > Harvester of Eyes > Cities on Flame > Me 262 > Dominance and Submission > Astronomy > E. T. I. > Buck's Boogie > This Ain't the Summer of Love > Born to be Wild > Don't Fear the Reaper > > Joe > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Aug 24 11:42:51 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:42:51 -0400 Subject: OFF: SubArachnoid Space/Circle update Message-ID: Hi Folks... For those of you not completely overwhelmed with excitement over the official HW 30th reunion show, and want to see some younger faces on stage :) And can't afford to fly to the UK for a bloody concert... :) Here's the updated tour list of the space-drone-improv group SubArachnoid Space, for which they will be hooking up for some shows with the totally-awesome space-kraut-ambient-industrial-etc. group Circle from Finland. I believe Circle will be doing shows other than these (and some out west I hear), but they don't update their website anymore. :( Skye Klad, Escapade, and Salom? I know for a fact are awesome bands as well. Not too shabby a lineup of shows. 9/16/00 Minneapolis, MN TBD with Skye Klad 9/17/00 Chicago, IL Empty Bottle with Circle and Salome 9/18/00 Detroit, MI Gold Dollar with Circle and Paik 9/19/00 Pittsburgh TBD* with Circle 9/20/00 Philadelphia, PA Khyber Pass with Circle 9/21/00 New York, NY TBD with Circle 9/22/00 Portland, ME The Skinny with Black Tara 9/23/00 Providence, RI Fort Thunder Deep Heaven Festival! with Lockgroove, Circle & more 9/24/00 Easthampton, MA Flywheel with Circle and Landing 9/25/00 New York, NY The Cooler with Escapade 9/26/00 New York, NY Knitting Factory with TBA 9/30/00 Denver, CO Pinebox Construction Company 3039 Walnut, (303) 308-0449 TBD 10/5/00 San Francisco Bottom of the Hill with Damo's Network 11/3-5/00 Seattle Terrastock 4 with many others! See www.terrastock.org/t4.html for more info! 11/10/00 San Francisco Bottom of the Hill with TBA 12/6/00 San Francisco Bottom of the Hill with Acid Mothers Temple * The Pittsburgh show looks to be at Millvale Industrial Theatre. www.mit.telerama.com for info/directions. Grakkl (FAA) From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu Aug 24 13:31:49 2000 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:31:49 +0100 Subject: off: Pedantry Message-ID: No! Everyone came to the gig to see Jez and me. Pedantry mode off. Nick -----Original Message----- From: Richard Lockwood To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 24 August 2000 10:09 Subject: off: Pedantry >> >> BTW, who's going to see me and Jez on Friday then ? >> >> (Yes I know it should read Jez and I) >> >> Mark (Hasbeen) > >No it shouldn't. > >Jez and I went to the Gig. >Everyone came to the gig to see me and Jez. > >Subject / object thingy. > >Cheers, > >Rich. (Donning the mantle of pedantry) > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com From clemens at TRAIL.COM Thu Aug 24 14:07:29 2000 From: clemens at TRAIL.COM (Clemens & Associates Inc) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:07:29 -0600 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: Maybe there is a hotel where us out-of-towners could stay, like a mini-convention, and use a banquet room for our pre-concert get-together? The other Mark L > Michael Crook writes: > > > By the sound of it its going to take about 3 hours to get served in > > the Beehive - I must make sure to get a few down on the way there! > > Anyone for a Hawkwind pubmeet prior to the Beehive? > > FoFP > From colm1 at MINISTRYOFSOUND.NET Thu Aug 24 14:23:21 2000 From: colm1 at MINISTRYOFSOUND.NET (bedroom trancer) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:23:21 +0100 Subject: hawkwind cd's cheap Message-ID: alright all popped into selectadisc today(berwick street, london) and bought Hawkwind "in your area" for 6.99 and Harvey Bainbridges's "Red shift" for 1.99!!! both on cd. there is still a few copies left of both if anyone is interested. Oh yeah got a cool spaceman 3 t-shirt aswell. anyway thats all. see ya all at brixton colm From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Aug 24 14:37:58 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:37:58 +0100 Subject: HW: UPDATE - Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) In-Reply-To: <043D0206B66DD311BC2500600878D936BBC5FB@VEG12_EXCH> Message-ID: On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Pospiech, Bernhard wrote: > Here is the updated list > Someone forgotten ? Yeah, you've forgotten my other half :-) Not that she's technically BOC-L. But she'll be there. Don't worry, the Beehive's plenty big, it's a Wetherspoons with two bars. Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | ======================================================================| | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Aug 24 15:30:01 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 20:30:01 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton tracks vote Message-ID: I think I 've decided. If Lemmy is there then "Kings of Speed" has to be the number one choice. After that - well it has to be something early and long so I guess "Be Yourself" will cover that - lots of opportunities for Nick's saxaphone and some long guitar runs and if Terry Ollis is on drums it should sound pretty good! still only dreaming jill From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Thu Aug 24 15:18:28 2000 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 20:18:28 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: Hi All, I may or may not be the country for the gig! (bloody work) If I am count me in on the beehive meet! Doc (Lurker cum occasional submitter!) -----Original Message----- From: Pospiech, Bernhard To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 23 August 2000 07:39 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Hi folks Here are so far the folks who will come to the BEEHIVE pub before the Brixton gig on 21.10.2000 Is the BEEHIVE ok ? And where exactely is this pub ? Very close to the Academy ? Near a TUBE station ? More infos from the LONDON folks please!!! 1) Andreas Stuewe 2) Gaby Stuewe 3) Rainer Wangler 4) Bernhard Pospiech 5) Andy Garibaldi 6) Ben Fagin 7) Eli Friedman 8) Kevin Sommers 9) Jon Jarret 10) Mike Holmes 11) Jill Strobridge 12) Michael Blackman 13) Merrick French 14) Julie French 15) Si ??? 16) Eric Siegerman 17) Nick ??? 18) Dave Greenhalgh 19) Mick ??? 20) Kevin Perry 21) John Stanton 22) Sara Stanton 23) Colm ??? 24) Matt ??? Someone forgotten ? I suppose the pub will be filled up with HAWKWIND fans. WOW! cheers Bernhard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 24 16:30:07 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:30:07 +0100 Subject: BOC: So long and thanks for all the hawks Message-ID: surprise surprise - although known more for Hawkwind, I have a Grateful Dead like love for BOC, in other words I love them live but don't rate the studio stuff. Saw BOC at Manchester Free Trade Hall way back in about '74 I think, supported by Birth Control, and it was one hell of a concert. The next one was some 16 or so years later when they successfully, at Hanley Victoria Hall, became, and this includes Motorhead gigs, the loudest band I have ever heard in my life, so loud in fact that Jackie and me managed to last about half way before having to walk out for sake of our hearing - talk about overdoing it. So, for the hell of it, my fave five providing they are done live are: ME 262 (still seeking the difinitive version 'coz it sure as hell ain't on record) Cities On Flame With Rock and Roll Bucks Boogie Shooting Shark (their finest studio track for me) Seven Screaming Diz-busters Andy Garibaldi (closet BOC fan - live of course!!!!!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew A. Apold" To: Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 1:01 PM Subject: BOC: So long and thanks for all the hawks > side note - put BOC: back on the subject tag, now that we have some BOC > discussion > going... > > >Ask me next week and you might get a defferent five, though Flaming > >Telepaths will always be there! > > Have to agree with you there. > > My 5: > > Flaming Telepaths > Astronomy (live '76 version) > Veteran of the Psychic Wars (ETL version) > Last Days of May > Death Valley Nights > "Left behind by the latest trends... > eating fried chicken with his regicidal friends... > - "Porcelain Monkey" by Warren Zevon > =============== > Andrew Apold From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 24 16:39:12 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:39:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: Looks fine to me Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "michael blackman" To: Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 10:42 AM Subject: Re: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > Apologies to anyone who doesn't want this file > > How about this?? Any suggestions? > > I could probably have them made up pretty cheap say as badges > and mail them out > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Merrick Martin French > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 6:23 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > > > > what about designing a name badge for everyone (downloadable via the web ) > I'm > > afaid I can't do it as my artistic merits are about the same standard as > the > > russian submarine service !! > > > > I'm also thinking about getting the band a pressy for all those years of > > pleasure the music has given me. > > > > love, light and peace > > > > Merrick & Julie French > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 24 16:42:01 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:42:01 +0100 Subject: HW: UPDATE - Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: A good trick if you can do it (a silent 'P' that is) Anonymous!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lockwood" To: Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 9:39 AM Subject: Re: HW: UPDATE - Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > > 29) Rick Lockwood > > Please - not "Rick". It implies a silent "P". > > :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > ObListening - The Fugs-Slum Goddess From The Lower East Side > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 24 16:50:43 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:50:43 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton meeting. Message-ID: Actually the first Hawkwind DVD will be out in 12 days time but we were saving that for the new catalogue we're issuing in 10 days time, so that should cut it fine a tad. Anyway, at least it starts the DVD ball rolling!!! Andy Garibaldi P.S. OK - now I know you're all going to be wondering what the DVD is all about now I've said this. Providing no-one minds a gratuitous plug for my retail services, I will explain all - anyone object? ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Duffy" To: Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 3:23 PM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton meeting. > Hi there > > Let's hope that for all of us who can't be there that this unique event is > to be recorded by some method or another. I'd love to see it all released as > a DVD??? I know it won't happen, but maybe if someone suggests such a thing, > someone out there will consider recording it! > > William > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Berry" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 4:16 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Brixton meeting. > > > > I voted for Hurry On Sundown and Out Of The Shadows. > > > > Dunno if I'll be there yet, but I'm hoping to be. Do we know the > > line-up(s?) and support bands yet? > > > > Dave. > > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 24 16:55:50 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 21:55:50 +0100 Subject: hawkwind cd's cheap Message-ID: I will take all the copies you can get of 'Red Shift' at this price and pay you immediately - e.mail me if successful at: andygee at dial.pipex.com Thanks, Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "bedroom trancer" To: Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 7:23 PM Subject: hawkwind cd's cheap > alright all > > popped into selectadisc today(berwick street, london) and bought Hawkwind > "in your area" for 6.99 and Harvey Bainbridges's "Red shift" for 1.99!!! > both on cd. > there is still a few copies left of both if anyone is interested. Oh yeah > got a cool spaceman 3 t-shirt aswell. > > anyway thats all. > > see ya all at brixton > > colm From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Thu Aug 24 16:55:05 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 13:55:05 -0700 Subject: BOC: So long and thanks for all the hawks Message-ID: I remember seeing them at the Golden Hall in San Diego, CA. back in 75 or so when they were SO loud that it literally hurt my ears. I'm talking actual pain here. It was so bad that I broke the filters off two cigs and stuffed them in my ears (the filters, that is). Of course, being 15 and stupid, I loved every minute of it. ...and yes, at age 40, after many many concerts and being in bands myself for quite a few years, I am quite hard of hearing. "Say what, Sonny? I cain't hear ya". But I have to agree, BOC had to hold the record for loudest band ever. I've seen the Who and Zeppelin and they were loud but never actually past the pain threshold. BOC's amps must "go to 11".. hehe JB > -----Original Message----- > From: ANDREW GARIBALDI [mailto:andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM] > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 1:30 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: BOC: So long and thanks for all the hawks > > > surprise surprise - although known more for Hawkwind, I have > a Grateful Dead > like love for BOC, in other words I love them live but don't > rate the studio > stuff. Saw BOC at Manchester Free Trade Hall way back in > about '74 I think, > supported by Birth Control, and it was one hell of a concert. > The next one > was some 16 or so years later when they successfully, at > Hanley Victoria > Hall, became, and this includes Motorhead gigs, the loudest > band I have ever > heard in my life, so loud in fact that Jackie and me managed > to last about > half way before having to walk out for sake of our hearing - > talk about > overdoing it. > So, for the hell of it, my fave five providing they are done live are: > ME 262 (still seeking the difinitive version 'coz it sure as > hell ain't on > record) > Cities On Flame With Rock and Roll > Bucks Boogie > Shooting Shark (their finest studio track for me) > Seven Screaming Diz-busters > Andy Garibaldi (closet BOC fan - live of course!!!!!) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew A. Apold" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 1:01 PM > Subject: BOC: So long and thanks for all the hawks > > > > side note - put BOC: back on the subject tag, now that we > have some BOC > > discussion > > going... > > > > >Ask me next week and you might get a defferent five, though Flaming > > >Telepaths will always be there! > > > > Have to agree with you there. > > > > My 5: > > > > Flaming Telepaths > > Astronomy (live '76 version) > > Veteran of the Psychic Wars (ETL version) > > Last Days of May > > Death Valley Nights > > "Left behind by the latest trends... > > eating fried chicken with his regicidal friends... > > - "Porcelain Monkey" by Warren Zevon > > =============== > > Andrew Apold > From Rob at JAZZBOX.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Aug 24 18:58:47 2000 From: Rob at JAZZBOX.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Robert Robinson) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 23:58:47 +0100 Subject: OFF :Canterbury sound fest/ rock radio Message-ID: If you have an old astra satellite(in Europe) reciever (not digital),you can hear highlights from the recent Canterbury sound fest on Total Rock Radio,which is on an audio band on the granada plus channel(you have to tune to a different audio feed)or you can listen on the web , they played Man last saturday,Arthur Brown is on this saturday night,then a band will feature each saturday for the next 4 weeks (not complete sets though ,still got to be worth hearing!) Usually between 9pm and midnight on saturdays(GMT) they play a lot of old ,obscure prog rock you would never imagine to hear on a radio station. Nektar,Earth and Fire,Birth Control,even Hawkwind!( Goat Willow and Paradox last week !) Cheers Rob From hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU Thu Aug 24 19:27:48 2000 From: hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU (Thomas Rickert) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 18:27:48 -0500 Subject: OFF: Nature and Organization Message-ID: I saw an intriguing looking CD by a band called Nature and Organization. The title was something about beauty reaping blood yadda yadda yadda. Does anybody here on the list know what they sound like or if they are any good? They seemed to have an electronic/psychedelic vibe, but they could have been goth, too. thanks, Thomas From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Aug 24 20:02:39 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 20:02:39 -0400 Subject: HW: Ask Simon H. Message-ID: Hello.... Suppose I'll be the first to tell everyone (unless someone's already mentioned it, and I missed it), that a new Cyberspace Interview with Simon House is opening up on www.hawkwind.com, and soliciting questions. Hmmmm....now to come up with something that no one else will ask like 60 times over so that the finished product doesn't read like a broken record.... "Dear Simon, when are you going to rejoin Hawkwind officially and come to play ?" :) Grakkl (FAA) From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Aug 24 23:22:14 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 12:52:14 +0930 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: But is it really necessary\ ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 6:09 AM Subject: Re: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > Looks fine to me > Andy Garibaldi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "michael blackman" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 10:42 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > > > > Apologies to anyone who doesn't want this file > > > > How about this?? Any suggestions? > > > > I could probably have them made up pretty cheap say as badges > > and mail them out > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Merrick Martin French > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 6:23 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > > > > > > > what about designing a name badge for everyone (downloadable via the > web ) > > I'm > > > afaid I can't do it as my artistic merits are about the same standard as > > the > > > russian submarine service !! > > > > > > I'm also thinking about getting the band a pressy for all those years of > > > pleasure the music has given me. > > > > > > love, light and peace > > > > > > Merrick & Julie French > > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Thu Aug 24 23:27:41 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 12:57:41 +0930 Subject: HW: Ask Simon H. Message-ID: i'll bet no one will be asking him how its hangin sorry havnt had me medication yet :>) ----- Original Message ----- From: K Henderson To: Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 9:32 AM Subject: HW: Ask Simon H. > Hello.... > > Suppose I'll be the first to tell everyone (unless someone's already > mentioned it, and I missed it), that a new Cyberspace Interview with Simon > House is opening up on www.hawkwind.com, and soliciting questions. > > Hmmmm....now to come up with something that no one else will ask like 60 > times over so that the finished product doesn't read like a broken record.... > > "Dear Simon, when are you going to rejoin Hawkwind officially and come to > play ?" :) > > Grakkl (FAA) From cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK Fri Aug 25 03:45:26 2000 From: cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 08:45:26 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: Or a "WaverlyStationMeet" *grinnz* ChrisW But tonight, the only thing I need is the Ace of Spades, the Ace of Spades (staggers off with body jerking to imaginary rhythms) > -----Original Message----- > From: M Holmes [mailto:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 3:06 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > > > Michael Crook writes: > > > By the sound of it its going to take about 3 hours to get served in > > the Beehive - I must make sure to get a few down on the way there! > > Anyone for a Hawkwind pubmeet prior to the Beehive? > > FoFP > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK Fri Aug 25 03:54:11 2000 From: cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 08:54:11 +0100 Subject: HW: UPDATE - Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: My father always used to say "the 'p' is silent, as in (p)sawdust" Folklorically yours, ChrisW > -----Original Message----- > From: ANDREW GARIBALDI [mailto:andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM] > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 9:42 PM > Subject: Re: HW: UPDATE - Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > > > A good trick if you can do it (a silent 'P' that is) > Anonymous!!!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Lockwood" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 9:39 AM > Subject: Re: HW: UPDATE - Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > > > > > 29) Rick Lockwood > > > > Please - not "Rick". It implies a silent "P". > > > > :-) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich. > > > > ObListening - The Fugs-Slum Goddess From The Lower East Side > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://im.yahoo.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From IainFerguson at CS.COM Fri Aug 25 04:56:59 2000 From: IainFerguson at CS.COM (Iain Ferguson) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 04:56:59 EDT Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: "is it really neccessary " obviously the answer is no, but would it be cool to be able to walk up to people you e-mail on the list and meet them face to face. Plus it would be a terrific momento to the occasion, and we are certainly talking about a huge one of those arnt we.. the thought of seeing people like Terris Ollis etc playing the early stuff, Harvey and martin griffin playing the hawklords stuff. The lemster growling though lord of light, nik doing the flute thang man....maybe even getting Dave brock to slap on the accoustic guitar for some Hurry on sundown, children of the sun, maybe even get a Sweet Mistress of Pain live... I'd love a badge !!! I simply cannot wait till the 21st... and by the way the TICKWEB tickets arrived today everyone who's waiting on them. Love & Peace Iain ferguson From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Fri Aug 25 06:04:51 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 19:34:51 +0930 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: Fair enough then I just wanted to make sure the interest was there Cheers Michael B Oh yeah if you want one send me your mailing address. michaelangelo68 at ozemail.com.au www.creativewave.com.au ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 6:26 PM Subject: Re: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > "is it really neccessary " > > obviously the answer is no, but would it be cool to be able to walk up to > people you e-mail on the list and meet them face to face. Plus it would be a > terrific momento to the occasion, and we are certainly talking about a huge > one of those arnt we.. > > the thought of seeing people like Terris Ollis etc playing the early stuff, > Harvey and martin griffin playing the hawklords stuff. The lemster growling > though lord of light, nik doing the flute thang man....maybe even getting > Dave brock to slap on the accoustic guitar for some Hurry on sundown, > children of the sun, maybe even get a Sweet Mistress of Pain live... > > I'd love a badge !!! > > I simply cannot wait till the 21st... and by the way the TICKWEB tickets > arrived today everyone who's waiting on them. > > Love & Peace > Iain ferguson From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 25 09:25:42 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:25:42 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig In-Reply-To: Clemens & Associates Inc's message of Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:07:29 -0600 Message-ID: Clemens & Associates Inc writes: > Maybe there is a hotel where us out-of-towners could stay, like a > mini-convention, and use a banquet room for our pre-concert get-together? Reasonable plan. Can anyone check out hotels near Brixton? Camden maybe? FoFP From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri Aug 25 10:37:44 2000 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 22:37:44 +0800 Subject: HW: Brixton meeting. Message-ID: I'd love to hear all about it!!! William ----- Original Message ----- From: "ANDREW GARIBALDI" To: Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 4:50 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton meeting. > Actually the first Hawkwind DVD will be out in 12 days time but we were > saving that for the new catalogue we're issuing in 10 days time, so that > should cut it fine a tad. > Anyway, at least it starts the DVD ball rolling!!! > Andy Garibaldi > P.S. > OK - now I know you're all going to be wondering what the DVD is all about > now I've said this. Providing no-one minds a gratuitous plug for my retail > services, I will explain all - anyone object? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Duffy" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 3:23 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Brixton meeting. > > > > Hi there > > > > Let's hope that for all of us who can't be there that this unique event is > > to be recorded by some method or another. I'd love to see it all released > as > > a DVD??? I know it won't happen, but maybe if someone suggests such a > thing, > > someone out there will consider recording it! > > > > William > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dave Berry" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 4:16 AM > > Subject: Re: HW: Brixton meeting. > > > > > > > I voted for Hurry On Sundown and Out Of The Shadows. > > > > > > Dunno if I'll be there yet, but I'm hoping to be. Do we know the > > > line-up(s?) and support bands yet? > > > > > > Dave. > > > > From mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM Fri Aug 25 10:54:08 2000 From: mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM (Michael Habiby) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 10:54:08 -0400 Subject: 5-18-2000 tree structure In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Brad The CD-R's came in today's mail Thank you. _______________________ Michael S. Habiby VP Sales and Marketing the CableShoppe, inc. One Prospect Ave. Albany, NY 12206 (800) 386-2300 (518) 489-0269 - fax cableshoppe at global2000.net or mhabiby1 at nycap.rr.com ________________________ "Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on." - Winston Churchill >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >Behalf Of Brad M. Lauchnor >Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 12:21 PM >To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >Subject: BOC: 5-18-2000 tree structure > > >Here is the tree structure for the 5-18-2000 Tree. If you are not >on the list please contact me and I'll get you on. The good news >is that Paul Mather and I will be trading this show and he will >provide me a copy of "The Thing" which we will make the next show >to tree. I'll announce that one a bit later. For right now: >branches send me 2 blanks and postage, leaves contact your >branches. Enjoy! > >Branch 1 Tom Marazita toad at engineering.ucsb.edu > >Mark Licht walkerb79 at juno.com >Daniel Ligon makmorn at qis.net >Ted Jackson tojackso at library.syr.edu >Jeff Perkins trudyw at locl.net >Thomas Nelson gumby at telis.org > >Branch 2 Michael Habiby cableshoppe at global2000.net > >George Payton george at londonohio.com >John McIntyre mcintyre at pa.msu.edu >Robert Pardini robert_pardini at grove.com >Ric Hedges Rocker22 at aol.com > >Europe Branch Hajo Steffen Hajo.Steffen at t-online.de > >Stuart Hamilton stuarthamilton at strayduck.com > From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Fri Aug 25 11:37:03 2000 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 17:37:03 +0200 Subject: HW: tickets Message-ID: Hi I've got our tickets for Brixton !!!! 2 days after booking them from Ticketmaster online Thats fast! Brixton, I'm comming!!! cheers Bernhard From lansford at VNET.NET Fri Aug 25 12:26:28 2000 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 12:26:28 -0400 Subject: BOC: Songs that Set the Hook (was: Re: So long and thanks for all the hawks) In-Reply-To: <200008241128.HAA04971@syr.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, "Ted Jackson jr." wrote: >This is tough, as there are 2 categories for me: best performance >vs. songs that originally hooked me on the band--in fact that might be >another thread... So let's start it. For me, the first song I heard was Last Days of May. Unfortunately, KDF rarely told you who the bands were, so the first album I bought was AOF, just because the cover art was cool. I never looked back. But if I had to pick one song, it would be... The Revenge of Vera Gemini. Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Aug 25 12:42:25 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 12:42:25 EDT Subject: OFF: seeking Steve Hayes.... Message-ID: STEVE HAYES: doug walker[dr.synth/alien planetscapes] seeks your e-mail address...he is rather unwell at present. if you write me off-group, i'll give you his e-mail address and phone ##. larry b "<>" ps>my apologies. dunno how else to do this. From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Fri Aug 25 14:02:31 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 11:02:31 -0700 Subject: Songs that Set the Hook (was: Re: So long and thanks for all the hawks) Message-ID: I saw them live before ever hearing a single studio cut. They were playing downtown for some sort of charity thing, the admission price was a can of food. I had never heard of them (this was in '74, I think) but a friend had and described them to me as, "Black Sabbath but with synthesizers".. well, that was enough for me, I went and was blown away. When I saw the 5 guitars, I was permanently hooked. I went out the next day and bought Blue Oyster Cult and Tyranny & Mutation. I don't think ST was out yet but I picked that up soon after as well. So, I would have to say that "Cities on Flame" was the song that really drew me in as far as studio tracks are concerned. But seeing them live was what really hooked me. Gods, have I really been listening to these guys for 26 years? "We're sick and tired and dying to meet you..." - BOC JB > -----Original Message----- > From: Jean Lansford [mailto:lansford at VNET.NET] > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 9:26 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: BOC: Songs that Set the Hook (was: Re: So long and thanks for > all the hawks) > > > On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, "Ted Jackson jr." > wrote: > > >This is tough, as there are 2 categories for me: best performance > >vs. songs that originally hooked me on the band--in fact > that might be > >another thread... > > So let's start it. > > For me, the first song I heard was Last Days of May. Unfortunately, > KDF rarely told you who the bands were, so the first album I bought > was AOF, just because the cover art was cool. I never looked back. > > But if I had to pick one song, it would be... > > The Revenge of Vera Gemini. > > > Jean Lansford > lansford at vnet.net > From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Fri Aug 25 19:02:32 2000 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 19:02:32 BST Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Iain Wrote: >I simply cannot wait till the 21st... and by the way the TICKWEB tickets >arrived today everyone who's waiting on them. > >Love & Peace >Iain ferguson Mine arrived today too, so my initial fears about Ticketweb were unfounded. I won't hesitate to use them again. Mick Crook -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Aug 25 15:37:04 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 20:37:04 +0100 Subject: BOC: Songs that Set the Hook (was: Re: So long and thanks for all the hawks) In-Reply-To: <3n7bqs4djehs4e0o8jd7a0r4q0g4865med@4ax.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, Jean Lansford wrote: > On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, "Ted Jackson jr." > wrote: > > >This is tough, as there are 2 categories for me: best performance > >vs. songs that originally hooked me on the band--in fact that might be > >another thread... > > So let's start it. > > For me, the first song I heard was Last Days of May. Unfortunately, > KDF rarely told you who the bands were, so the first album I bought > was AOF, just because the cover art was cool. I never looked back. > > But if I had to pick one song, it would be... > > The Revenge of Vera Gemini. Well, for me it's actually the same song - except the original thread excluded that one, it being `Reaper'... Heard it twice on the radio in about the same number of years, and having actually realised when I heard it the third time that the bit before and after the guitar break were both the same song, I was pleased to get it on a GenericRockComp (tm) tape - except it wasn't, it had the guitar break _cut_ _out_! Argh! So I was immediately forced to go to Watford Market, where there was and probably is an excellent music stall which did and probably does tapes in a world where everyone else has forgotten them, and among them were four BOC albums. After some deliberation I chose _Some Enchanted Evening_ because I thought a song called `Godzilla' was probably a good thing - and I got it home and heard `Astronomy'... And ever since I have known BOC to be the greatest band ever to strike a note. I'll sit down now :-) Yours, Jon ObCD: The Not Very Good Interval Band - _Peru_ -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | ======================================================================| | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | From flossbac at NLCI.COM Fri Aug 25 15:43:04 2000 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 14:43:04 -0500 Subject: OFF: Nature and Organization Message-ID: This CD is fantastic...one of my favorites in fact! It is in the "apocalyptic folk" genre of Current 93, if you're familiar with that. There are beautiful acoustic guitar melodies with cellos etc. as well as near-industrial bursts of noise and feedback, with some very poignant and dark lyrics by David Tibet (Current 93) and the lovely female vocals of Rose McDowell (sp?). Yes, they are gothic and psychedelic.... nothing electronic on there though. I say buy it! It's a winner! John Majka > I saw an intriguing looking CD by a band called Nature and Organization. The > title was something about beauty reaping blood yadda yadda yadda. Does > anybody here on the list know what they sound like or if they are any good? > They seemed to have an electronic/psychedelic vibe, but they could have > been goth, too. > > thanks, > Thomas > From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Aug 25 16:18:41 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:18:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 2:25 PM Subject: Re: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > Clemens & Associates Inc writes: > > > Maybe there is a hotel where us out-of-towners could stay, like a > > mini-convention, and use a banquet room for our pre-concert get-together? > > Reasonable plan. Can anyone check out hotels near Brixton? Camden maybe? Yeah - well - I've been struggling with London maps for the past couple of nights and can say categorically that Camden is nowhere near Brixton! However Clapham is and Camberwell is reasonably close. However London tends to list its accommodation by district numbers rather than name. Brixton is actually in SW2 but the Academy itelf is in SW9 and there is very little accommodation listed for these areas. Clapham is in SW4, Nine Elms and Vauxhall (mostly entirely industrial) is in SW8, Battersea is SW11, Kennington and Lambeth are in SE11,Walworth is SE17, Camberwell SE5 and Herne Hill SE24 Pimlico, on the other side of the river is SW1 Here's a useful web address in case anyone else wants to browse: http://www.s-h-systems.co.uk/ jill From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Fri Aug 25 17:17:38 2000 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 22:17:38 +0100 Subject: HW: UPDATE - Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I thought it was a silent pee, as in (p)swimming pool. Alasdair On 25 Aug 00, at 8:54, Chris Warburton wrote: > My father always used to say "the 'p' is silent, as in (p)sawdust" > > Folklorically yours, > ChrisW > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ANDREW GARIBALDI [mailto:andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM] > > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 9:42 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: UPDATE - Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > > > > > > A good trick if you can do it (a silent 'P' that is) > > Anonymous!!!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Richard Lockwood" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 9:39 AM > > Subject: Re: HW: UPDATE - Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > > > > > > > > 29) Rick Lockwood > > > > > > Please - not "Rick". It implies a silent "P". -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Aug 25 16:53:32 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:53:32 +0100 Subject: BOC: So long and thanks for all the hawks Message-ID: Yeh - one has to ask how the hell they managed this - I mean, like you I've seen hundreds and hundreds of concerts but BOC were the only ones who caused pain. I wonder if the group were aware of this 'coz surely the soundcheck must have been a doozy!!! I have to admit though, for that '74 concert, they were spot on and that was one I'll never forget. Incidentally, altho' it won't interest anyone here, the prize for the loudest group with an absolutely crystal clear sound, for me was Kraftwerk in '75 - it was like the band standing right next to you but way acceptable. Luckily I grew out of that phase, even though Madonna clearly hasn't..... Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Brooks" To: Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 9:55 PM Subject: Re: BOC: So long and thanks for all the hawks > I remember seeing them at the Golden Hall in San Diego, CA. back in 75 or so > when they were SO loud that it literally hurt my ears. I'm talking actual > pain here. It was so bad that I broke the filters off two cigs and stuffed > them in my ears (the filters, that is). Of course, being 15 and stupid, I > loved every minute of it. > > ...and yes, at age 40, after many many concerts and being in bands myself > for quite a few years, I am quite hard of hearing. "Say what, Sonny? I > cain't hear ya". > > But I have to agree, BOC had to hold the record for loudest band ever. I've > seen the Who and Zeppelin and they were loud but never actually past the > pain threshold. > > BOC's amps must "go to 11".. hehe > > JB > From hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU Fri Aug 25 17:54:54 2000 From: hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU (Thomas Rickert) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:54:54 -0500 Subject: OFF: Nature and Organization Message-ID: "apocalyptic folk"... does this bear similarities to the sound of some of the bands on the Projekt label (Black Tape for a Blue Girl, Love Spirals Downward, etc.)? Thomas flossbac wrote: > This CD is fantastic...one of my favorites in fact! It is in the > "apocalyptic folk" genre of Current 93, if you're familiar with that. There > are beautiful acoustic guitar melodies with cellos etc. as well as > near-industrial bursts of noise and feedback, with some very poignant and > dark lyrics by David Tibet (Current 93) and the lovely female vocals of Rose > McDowell (sp?). Yes, they are gothic and psychedelic.... nothing electronic > on there though. I say buy it! It's a winner! > > John Majka > > I saw an intriguing looking CD by a band called Nature and Organization. > The > > title was something about beauty reaping blood yadda yadda yadda. Does > > anybody here on the list know what they sound like or if they are any > good? > > They seemed to have an electronic/psychedelic vibe, but they could have > > been goth, too. > > > > thanks, > > Thomas > > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Aug 25 18:48:07 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 18:48:07 -0400 Subject: BOC: So long and thanks for all the hawks In-Reply-To: <008901c00edb$c0b6b540$2897bc3e@s8d3c4> Message-ID: On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: => Yeh - one has to ask how the hell they managed this - I mean, like you I've => seen hundreds and hundreds of concerts but BOC were the only ones who caused => pain. I wonder if the group were aware of this 'coz surely the soundcheck => must have been a doozy!!! Clue: they all use earplugs (band and crew). So, whereas it is painfully loud for you without them, it is merely loud for those with them. Cheers, Paul. NP: BOC, 5/18/2000 e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Aug 25 18:51:16 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 18:51:16 -0400 Subject: BOC: Songs that Set the Hook (was: Re: So long and thanks for all the hawks) In-Reply-To: <3n7bqs4djehs4e0o8jd7a0r4q0g4865med@4ax.com> Message-ID: At 12:26 PM 8/25/00 -0400, Jean Lansford wrote: >On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, "Ted Jackson jr." >wrote: > >>This is tough, as there are 2 categories for me: best performance >>vs. songs that originally hooked me on the band--in fact that might be >>another thread... For me, Veteran of the Psychic Wars. I was too young to be into B?C in the 70's, for the most part. Some kids bought FOUO and were playing Veteran on a boom box on my school bus one day, was instantly hooked... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From flossbac at NLCI.COM Fri Aug 25 19:14:05 2000 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 18:14:05 -0500 Subject: OFF: Nature and Organization Message-ID: Actually I'm not sure, as I haven't heard those bands. Other comparisons I might draw would be Current 93, Death in June, a smattering of Nurse With Wound. John Majka > "apocalyptic folk"... does this bear similarities to the sound of some of the > bands on the Projekt label (Black Tape for a Blue Girl, Love Spirals Downward, > etc.)? > > Thomas > > flossbac wrote: > > > This CD is fantastic...one of my favorites in fact! It is in the > > "apocalyptic folk" genre of Current 93, if you're familiar with that. There > > are beautiful acoustic guitar melodies with cellos etc. as well as > > near-industrial bursts of noise and feedback, with some very poignant and > > dark lyrics by David Tibet (Current 93) and the lovely female vocals of Rose > > McDowell (sp?). Yes, they are gothic and psychedelic.... nothing electronic > > on there though. I say buy it! It's a winner! > > > > John Majka > > > I saw an intriguing looking CD by a band called Nature and Organization. > > The > > > title was something about beauty reaping blood yadda yadda yadda. Does > > > anybody here on the list know what they sound like or if they are any > > good? > > > They seemed to have an electronic/psychedelic vibe, but they could have > > > been goth, too. > > > > > > thanks, > > > Thomas > > > > From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Fri Aug 25 19:44:20 2000 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 19:44:20 EDT Subject: BOC: Songs that Set the Hook (was: Re: So long and thanks for all ... Message-ID: Yeah, Veteran was the hook for me, too. I was watching 'Heavy Metal' one night, and saw in the end credits that Veteran was co-written by Eric and Michael Moorcock. I went out the next day to find what album that was on, found it, and also found Black Blade. Bought FoUO and CE for the Moorcock Connection, then I listened to the rest of the songs, thought, "They're pretty good!", and have been a rabid BOC fan since. Joe Loehr From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Fri Aug 25 21:25:05 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:25:05 -0400 Subject: BOC: Songs that Set the Hook In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >songs, thought, "They're pretty good!", and have been a rabid BOC fan since. Cuz I havent been list present in a while, heres my stab at BOC hookery and geegoshwow points of origin locating. Though I gotta admit now, Im not rabid. Occasionally I;ll foam during a praticualr track at a particular volume in the car or at home on a nice day or after writing a good piece of bs for political theory classes , but I think that the overall power and magnatude that once constituded the BOC for me has dissipated. Heaven Forbid was duelling versions of Feel the thunder and Buck Dharma, with a strange rehash of allan Lanier thrown in "live" for good measure at the end of the disc. Anyhoo.... this was what originally cast its spell on my ears: ME 262 on ON Your Feet. It was raucous unclean in sound and apparanet that the band was having some degree of fun when the song hurtled through the guitars to the end refrains. Ditto to 7 Screaming Diz busters but thats almost more for the way in which guitar and drum manage to steer the band along to places that only rock and roll can go and have rarely been to since. Even Eric is in sarcastic tiptop shape with his lucifer rap. Sides, where else would you be told how to spell Lucifer?? :) Studio wise... Flaming telephaths had a wild mix of well orchestrated (as foar as rock orchestation goes) instrment placement and the feel that the band was rocking out beneath the complexity of it all (god, theres like a billion guitars playing all over the place duiring occurrences of the main riff). The texture of the entire tyrrany and Mutation is a great tension betwen sparseness and opaque lyrics, a feel which was recaptured on Agents of Fortune, but with a finer ability to swril color wheel swatches together. Spectres wants to be Secret treaties with even more feeling and and traces of that arid aesthetic. After Some Enchanted evening.... i dont know. It always blurs, for with the exception of everything on Mirrors, its a Martin Birch production through and through but with members of Blue Oyster Cult writing songs. A very bright, like "the gleam of the teeth of an evil salesman" sorta sheen to everything in place of the twilight lit desert that marked earlier stuff. (maybe sunrise, I dont know) But for now, my favorite blue oyster cult is the Stalk Forrest Group. Personally, The material that the Brain Surgeons are producing and have produced has much more fixedness than the ever touring BOC. On the other hand, and the other foot in the mouth too? its very vey very cool to see that Buck is playing on Helen Wheels tributes and with Les Vegas' material and with albert an' Joe and Roter (i think... its been a while since i loked at the cellsum.com website to drool oer the Roter newie prior to paychecks reasserting their presence in my bank account. ) Then again with any band you love, if you have to be willing to let em go and reassert the quality that was so appelaing in the first place. Which is probably why i'm willing to go see BOC when they come to Albany in november (is it?) f theres new stuff, NEW in content and form, then f*&^ I'm gonna rave poetic. Fer now. ... they be a standard(piece-of-nostalgia) i question all other records with. A Love Supreme, Kasim ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "And philosophy is wont, in fact, not infrequently, to convert itself into a kind of art of spiritual pimping.And sometimes into an opiate for lulling sorrows to sleep." - Unamuno, _Tragic Sense of Life_ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Aug 26 04:45:59 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:15:59 +0930 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: Sounds Potentially interesting Whos paying for the pre concert strippers 8>) ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 10:55 PM Subject: Re: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > Clemens & Associates Inc writes: > > > Maybe there is a hotel where us out-of-towners could stay, like a > > mini-convention, and use a banquet room for our pre-concert get-together? > > Reasonable plan. Can anyone check out hotels near Brixton? Camden maybe? > > FoFP > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Aug 26 04:49:26 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:19:26 +0930 Subject: HW: Brixton meeting. Message-ID: Me too Please tell!! ----- Original Message ----- From: William Duffy To: Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 12:07 AM Subject: Re: HW: Brixton meeting. > I'd love to hear all about it!!! > > William > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ANDREW GARIBALDI" > To: > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 4:50 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Brixton meeting. > > > > Actually the first Hawkwind DVD will be out in 12 days time but we were > > saving that for the new catalogue we're issuing in 10 days time, so that > > should cut it fine a tad. > > Anyway, at least it starts the DVD ball rolling!!! > > Andy Garibaldi > > P.S. > > OK - now I know you're all going to be wondering what the DVD is all about > > now I've said this. Providing no-one minds a gratuitous plug for my > retail > > services, I will explain all - anyone object? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "William Duffy" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 3:23 PM > > Subject: Re: HW: Brixton meeting. > > > > > > > Hi there > > > > > > Let's hope that for all of us who can't be there that this unique event > is > > > to be recorded by some method or another. I'd love to see it all > released > > as > > > a DVD??? I know it won't happen, but maybe if someone suggests such a > > thing, > > > someone out there will consider recording it! > > > > > > William > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Dave Berry" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 4:16 AM > > > Subject: Re: HW: Brixton meeting. > > > > > > > > > > I voted for Hurry On Sundown and Out Of The Shadows. > > > > > > > > Dunno if I'll be there yet, but I'm hoping to be. Do we know the > > > > line-up(s?) and support bands yet? > > > > > > > > Dave. > > > > > > > From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Aug 26 04:50:18 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:20:18 +0930 Subject: HW: tickets Message-ID: cool man 8>) ----- Original Message ----- From: Bernhard Pospiech To: Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 1:07 AM Subject: HW: tickets > Hi > > I've got our tickets for Brixton !!!! > > 2 days after booking them from Ticketmaster online > Thats fast! > > Brixton, I'm comming!!! > > cheers > Bernhard From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sat Aug 26 05:02:03 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:32:03 +0930 Subject: The Hawkestra Name Badge Message-ID: Regarding the Hawkestra badge for the pre concert get together I was enlightened tonight by a wise man who said that it would be more practical & cheaper if the name badges were handed out on the night. Hows that sound. All I need is names and I can get the ball rolling Ihave 4 names so far. Cheers Michael Blackman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sat Aug 26 06:42:23 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:42:23 +0200 Subject: The Hawkestra Name Badge Message-ID: Ok,count me in ----- Original Message ----- From: michael blackman To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 11:02 AM Subject: The Hawkestra Name Badge Regarding the Hawkestra badge for the pre concert get together I was enlightened tonight by a wise man who said that it would be more practical & cheaper if the name badges were handed out on the night. Hows that sound. All I need is names and I can get the ball rolling Ihave 4 names so far. Cheers Michael Blackman -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Sat Aug 26 04:28:33 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 09:28:33 +0100 Subject: BOC-ish Message-ID: >>From blacksabbath.com In ex-drummer news, Bobby Rondinelli is interested in having ex-bassist Neil Murray work on his upcoming solo album, and Vinny Appice, whose new band is called Hunger Farm, will do an on-line chat on September 9 at noon Pacific time at http://www.drum-talk.com . http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - On-line dealer in previously loved records Distributor of Stone Premonitions, Century Media and Elastic Fiction releases Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist US site at http://www.zeitgeist.gemm.com/ Blessings and peace from Zeitgeist E-Zine - http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sat Aug 26 11:23:25 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 11:23:25 -0400 Subject: Blue Oyster Cult in Seaside Heights NJ 9/23 ( a biker event) Message-ID: Hi, does anyone have any specific info regarding this show? Is this a private affair etc? Please send me the info back burner.. Peace, MIke http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Sat Aug 26 11:42:43 2000 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 17:42:43 +0200 Subject: HW:Brixton Votes Message-ID: Here are the songs and votes cast so far: > > Master of the universe 111111111111111 > Lord of light 111111111111111 > Spirit Of The Age 111111111111111 > Assault & Battery 1111111111 > Space Is deep 11111111 > Hurry on Sundown 11111111 > Brainstorm 1111111 > Orgone accumlator 1111111 > Magnu 111111 > Motorhead 111111 > Seven By seven 111111 > Born To Go 111111 > D-Rider 11111 > Damnation alley 11111 > Silver Machine 1111 > Utopia 1111 > Paradox 1111 > Levitation 1111 > You shouldn't Do That 1111 > Golden Void 1111 > Time we left 1111 > Psychedelic Warlords 111 > LSD 111 > Valium 10 111 > Down through the night 111 > Kings of speed 11 > Brainbox pollution 11 > Uncle Sam's On Mars 11 > Lost johnny 11 > Wind of Change 11 > High Rise 11 > Right To Decide 11 > Robot 11 > Hassan I Sahba 11 > Opa Loka 11 > Moonglum 11 > Its so Easy 11 > Psi Power 11 > Seeing it as you really are 11 > PXR5 11 > Shot down in the night 11 > Aerospaceage Inferno 11 > Lighthouse 11 > Treadmill 11 > Motorway City > Love In Space > Flying Doctor > Forge Of Vulcan > Earth Calling > Steppenwolf > The Watcher > Dust of time > I am the reptoid > Alchemy > Urban Guerilla > Rocky Paths > Green Finned demon > Hippy > Blue Skin > disco tango > Flying Doctor > Kerb Crawler > Dying Seas > Reefer Madness > Infinity > Dreaming city > Farenheit 451 > Demented man > Ghost Dance > Heads > Alien I am > Mirror Of Illusion > Social alliance > Quark S & C > Out Of The Shadows > Right Stuff > Knife Edge > Death Trap > Angels Of Death From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Aug 26 11:56:55 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 16:56:55 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Votes In-Reply-To: <13Si6V-23poeqC@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> Message-ID: Well, it's out of date, but how did you get hold of this? -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Andreas Stuewe > Sent: 26 August 2000 16:43 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: HW:Brixton Votes > > > Here are the songs and votes cast so far: > > > > Master of the universe 111111111111111 > > Lord of light 111111111111111 > > Spirit Of The Age 111111111111111 > > Assault & Battery 1111111111 > > Space Is deep 11111111 > > Hurry on Sundown 11111111 > > Brainstorm 1111111 > > Orgone accumlator 1111111 > > Magnu 111111 > > Motorhead 111111 > > Seven By seven 111111 > > Born To Go 111111 > > D-Rider 11111 > > Damnation alley 11111 > > Silver Machine 1111 > > Utopia 1111 > > Paradox 1111 > > Levitation 1111 > > You shouldn't Do That 1111 > > Golden Void 1111 > > Time we left 1111 > > Psychedelic Warlords 111 > > LSD 111 > > Valium 10 111 > > Down through the night 111 > > Kings of speed 11 > > Brainbox pollution 11 > > Uncle Sam's On Mars 11 > > Lost johnny 11 > > Wind of Change 11 > > High Rise 11 > > Right To Decide 11 > > Robot 11 > > Hassan I Sahba 11 > > Opa Loka 11 > > Moonglum 11 > > Its so Easy 11 > > Psi Power 11 > > Seeing it as you really are 11 > > PXR5 11 > > Shot down in the night 11 > > Aerospaceage Inferno 11 > > Lighthouse 11 > > Treadmill 11 > > Motorway City > > Love In Space > > Flying Doctor > > Forge Of Vulcan > > Earth Calling > > Steppenwolf > > The Watcher > > Dust of time > > I am the reptoid > > Alchemy > > Urban Guerilla > > Rocky Paths > > Green Finned demon > > Hippy > > Blue Skin > > disco tango > > Flying Doctor > > Kerb Crawler > > Dying Seas > > Reefer Madness > > Infinity > > Dreaming city > > Farenheit 451 > > Demented man > > Ghost Dance > > Heads > > Alien I am > > Mirror Of Illusion > > Social alliance > > Quark S & C > > Out Of The Shadows > > Right Stuff > > Knife Edge > > Death Trap > > Angels Of Death > From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sat Aug 26 12:27:58 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:27:58 -0400 Subject: Fwd: [The Pipeline Original Music Radio Show] Sloterdijk members to perform Free Concert in the park Message-ID: http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: sloterdijk at webtv.net Subject: [The Pipeline Original Music Radio Show] Sloterdijk members to perform Free Concert in the park Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:04:05 -0400 (EDT) Size: 3184 URL: From novadrive at HOME.COM Sat Aug 26 15:18:39 2000 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 12:18:39 -0700 Subject: HW:Brixton Votes Message-ID: disco tango?????? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andreas Stuewe" To: Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 8:42 AM Subject: HW:Brixton Votes > Here are the songs and votes cast so far: > > > > Master of the universe 111111111111111 > > Lord of light 111111111111111 > > Spirit Of The Age 111111111111111 > > Assault & Battery 1111111111 > > Space Is deep 11111111 > > Hurry on Sundown 11111111 > > Brainstorm 1111111 > > Orgone accumlator 1111111 > > Magnu 111111 > > Motorhead 111111 > > Seven By seven 111111 > > Born To Go 111111 > > D-Rider 11111 > > Damnation alley 11111 > > Silver Machine 1111 > > Utopia 1111 > > Paradox 1111 > > Levitation 1111 > > You shouldn't Do That 1111 > > Golden Void 1111 > > Time we left 1111 > > Psychedelic Warlords 111 > > LSD 111 > > Valium 10 111 > > Down through the night 111 > > Kings of speed 11 > > Brainbox pollution 11 > > Uncle Sam's On Mars 11 > > Lost johnny 11 > > Wind of Change 11 > > High Rise 11 > > Right To Decide 11 > > Robot 11 > > Hassan I Sahba 11 > > Opa Loka 11 > > Moonglum 11 > > Its so Easy 11 > > Psi Power 11 > > Seeing it as you really are 11 > > PXR5 11 > > Shot down in the night 11 > > Aerospaceage Inferno 11 > > Lighthouse 11 > > Treadmill 11 > > Motorway City > > Love In Space > > Flying Doctor > > Forge Of Vulcan > > Earth Calling > > Steppenwolf > > The Watcher > > Dust of time > > I am the reptoid > > Alchemy > > Urban Guerilla > > Rocky Paths > > Green Finned demon > > Hippy > > Blue Skin > > disco tango > > Flying Doctor > > Kerb Crawler > > Dying Seas > > Reefer Madness > > Infinity > > Dreaming city > > Farenheit 451 > > Demented man > > Ghost Dance > > Heads > > Alien I am > > Mirror Of Illusion > > Social alliance > > Quark S & C > > Out Of The Shadows > > Right Stuff > > Knife Edge > > Death Trap > > Angels Of Death From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Sat Aug 26 15:46:06 2000 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 20:46:06 +0100 Subject: HW:Brixton Votes In-Reply-To: <004b01c00f92$70c6ea20$36730918@chnd1.az.home.com> Message-ID: At 12:18 26/08/00, Kevin Sommers wrote: >disco tango?????? It's an ICU track (not their best, IMO). Apart from that, I'd be happy if they played the lot ;-). Dave (wishing he'd voted for SteppenWolf). From m.j.crook at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Aug 26 16:26:01 2000 From: m.j.crook at BTINTERNET.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 21:26:01 +0100 Subject: TEST Message-ID: TEST May there always be starlight on the path...Burnham Jn. From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sat Aug 26 17:22:47 2000 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 16:22:47 -0500 Subject: OTHER: Planet Prog Radio Message-ID: Hello! Planet Prog is happy to announce that our weekly live radio show is now being archived to stream and listen to anytime during the current week or download and save for future listening! Recent shows have featured interviews with Nexus, Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull, and Daevid Allen of Gong & University of Errors. 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Mark Krueger & Karen aka "Bubbles" the Planet Prog Webmaster http://claim.to/planprog.html -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Aug 26 17:51:18 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 22:51:18 +0100 Subject: HW:Brixton Votes In-Reply-To: <13Si6V-23poeqC@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> Message-ID: Well, it's a good set list, but are they gonna do for an encore? >Here are the songs and votes cast so far: >> >> Master of the universe 111111111111111 >> Lord of light 111111111111111 >> Spirit Of The Age 111111111111111 >> Assault & Battery 1111111111 >> Space Is deep 11111111 >> Hurry on Sundown 11111111 >> Brainstorm 1111111 >> Orgone accumlator 1111111 >> Magnu 111111 >> Motorhead 111111 >> Seven By seven 111111 >> Born To Go 111111 >> D-Rider 11111 >> Damnation alley 11111 >> Silver Machine 1111 >> Utopia 1111 >> Paradox 1111 >> Levitation 1111 >> You shouldn't Do That 1111 >> Golden Void 1111 >> Time we left 1111 >> Psychedelic Warlords 111 >> LSD 111 >> Valium 10 111 >> Down through the night 111 >> Kings of speed 11 >> Brainbox pollution 11 >> Uncle Sam's On Mars 11 >> Lost johnny 11 >> Wind of Change 11 >> High Rise 11 >> Right To Decide 11 >> Robot 11 >> Hassan I Sahba 11 >> Opa Loka 11 >> Moonglum 11 >> Its so Easy 11 >> Psi Power 11 >> Seeing it as you really are 11 >> PXR5 11 >> Shot down in the night 11 >> Aerospaceage Inferno 11 >> Lighthouse 11 >> Treadmill 11 >> Motorway City >> Love In Space >> Flying Doctor >> Forge Of Vulcan >> Earth Calling >> Steppenwolf >> The Watcher >> Dust of time >> I am the reptoid >> Alchemy >> Urban Guerilla >> Rocky Paths >> Green Finned demon >> Hippy >> Blue Skin >> disco tango >> Flying Doctor >> Kerb Crawler >> Dying Seas >> Reefer Madness >> Infinity >> Dreaming city >> Farenheit 451 >> Demented man >> Ghost Dance >> Heads >> Alien I am >> Mirror Of Illusion >> Social alliance >> Quark S & C >> Out Of The Shadows >> Right Stuff >> Knife Edge >> Death Trap >> Angels Of Death -- Jon From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Aug 26 19:38:40 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 00:38:40 +0100 Subject: BOC: Songs that Set the Hook Message-ID: Neat set of thoughts. For my pasrt I loved the first four albums ages back but in the light of the Y2K, they don't have the magic and necessry kick-ass ingredients that stand up as classics. In the light of this penchant by groups and record labels to remaster everything in sight from the '70's, I keep hoping that the first three studio albums will get the treatment. As to 'On Your Feet', I remember a certain Geoff Barton proclaiming it as one of the greatest live albumson the planet, yet like so many live albums, the post-production flattened it and the vibrancy was not there, again a classic case for a remaster, perhaps. As to later albums, well. 'Agents' earned them loads but screwed the machinery real bad that it took several albums for them to recover (in my humble opinion). The two subsequent live albums came close to wild abandon,but it was 'Imaginos' that really put them back on track and 'Revolution By Night' that put them back up there with the greats ( my fave album) I must admit that, apart from the album of re-recordings of old classics ('Champions Of Rock'), which strangely had mixed results (who was playing on this??), I've lost sight of the band for the last few years, so really can't comment on late '90's activity - here's hoping their light will shine again one day. Andy Garibaldi (with my last on the subject - Motorhead tomorrow - look forward to that one, folks) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bolts of Ungodly Vision" To: Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 2:25 AM Subject: Re: BOC: Songs that Set the Hook > >songs, thought, "They're pretty good!", and have been a rabid BOC fan since. > > Cuz I havent been list present in a while, heres my stab at BOC hookery > and geegoshwow points of origin locating. Though I gotta admit now, Im not > rabid. > Occasionally I;ll foam during a praticualr track at a particular volume in............................. From hawkwind at ZEBRA.NET Sun Aug 27 03:38:54 2000 From: hawkwind at ZEBRA.NET (Jerome Kekatos) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 02:38:54 -0500 Subject: MP# swap In-Reply-To: <3986C521.EFD00CC3@netscapeonline.co.uk> Message-ID: ok so it takes me 30 days to digest my email i am imfamous spreader of calvert and rare hawkwind, and hawkwindish stuffs - check me on napster as Iamgremlin156 hot list me and perhaps will run into each other From micci at SCI.FI Sun Aug 27 04:00:58 2000 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:00:58 +0300 Subject: HW:Song Nazca Message-ID: Hi! Who sing Nazca song? It?s sound very female. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Sun Aug 27 07:49:24 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:19:24 +0930 Subject: HW:Brixton Votes Message-ID: I wonder who the other person was to vote for Moonglum & right to decide - he or she has good taste 8>) MichaelBlackman ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Browne To: Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 7:21 AM Subject: Re: HW:Brixton Votes > Well, it's a good set list, but are they gonna do for an encore? > > > >Here are the songs and votes cast so far: > >> > >> Master of the universe 111111111111111 > >> Lord of light 111111111111111 > >> Spirit Of The Age 111111111111111 > >> Assault & Battery 1111111111 > >> Space Is deep 11111111 > >> Hurry on Sundown 11111111 > >> Brainstorm 1111111 > >> Orgone accumlator 1111111 > >> Magnu 111111 > >> Motorhead 111111 > >> Seven By seven 111111 > >> Born To Go 111111 > >> D-Rider 11111 > >> Damnation alley 11111 > >> Silver Machine 1111 > >> Utopia 1111 > >> Paradox 1111 > >> Levitation 1111 > >> You shouldn't Do That 1111 > >> Golden Void 1111 > >> Time we left 1111 > >> Psychedelic Warlords 111 > >> LSD 111 > >> Valium 10 111 > >> Down through the night 111 > >> Kings of speed 11 > >> Brainbox pollution 11 > >> Uncle Sam's On Mars 11 > >> Lost johnny 11 > >> Wind of Change 11 > >> High Rise 11 > >> Right To Decide 11 > >> Robot 11 > >> Hassan I Sahba 11 > >> Opa Loka 11 > >> Moonglum 11 > >> Its so Easy 11 > >> Psi Power 11 > >> Seeing it as you really are 11 > >> PXR5 11 > >> Shot down in the night 11 > >> Aerospaceage Inferno 11 > >> Lighthouse 11 > >> Treadmill 11 > >> Motorway City > >> Love In Space > >> Flying Doctor > >> Forge Of Vulcan > >> Earth Calling > >> Steppenwolf > >> The Watcher > >> Dust of time > >> I am the reptoid > >> Alchemy > >> Urban Guerilla > >> Rocky Paths > >> Green Finned demon > >> Hippy > >> Blue Skin > >> disco tango > >> Flying Doctor > >> Kerb Crawler > >> Dying Seas > >> Reefer Madness > >> Infinity > >> Dreaming city > >> Farenheit 451 > >> Demented man > >> Ghost Dance > >> Heads > >> Alien I am > >> Mirror Of Illusion > >> Social alliance > >> Quark S & C > >> Out Of The Shadows > >> Right Stuff > >> Knife Edge > >> Death Trap > >> Angels Of Death > > -- > Jon From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sun Aug 27 08:51:50 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 14:51:50 +0200 Subject: HW:Brixton Votes Message-ID: Hell, Why don't they just play "Space Ritual" and do the encores with our favourites? Should clean up the mess considibraly. Anyway,I'll be there and will enjoye the gig anyhow, just to see all those guys on stage,you know. I once wrote to Dave he can even let a fart and record it, I would buy it (sorry the language) I can only say you're all in too much hopes,you all think it will be the ultimate Hawkwind concert,with the best sound, the best lights,THE BEST of everything.I hope it will be. But I think it's asking too much.Don't say the Hawks will not try to do the best they can,I'm sure they will. I remember going to Sheperd's Bush a few years back and I was told the London gigs were always something special. Must tell you it was one of the worst Hawkwind gigs I ever saw. And I've seen quite a few.Even more, not a month later I saw them at Brussels(at my home country) and they were really cooking!!! Shouldn't bothered to go to London (expencive!)anyhow. Anyhow,there are profesional digital 32-track recordings from the Brussels gig (some were released on the "In your Area" album) But Dave has the whole gig.We talked after the gig and he wasn't satisfied with the second part as Ron Tree and Dave couldn't hear eachother.But I couldn't hear that.It was far superior to the London gig!!!! So why don't we all give Dave a push in the back to release the Brussels gig? Enough said,I'll be there the 21th,even at the BEEHIVE,with 2 guys who never heard Hawkwind before. Now that would be a challange:Everybody should bring along 2 guys who had never been to a Hawkwind concert before!! best wishes filip hawknut ----- Original Message ----- From: michael blackman To: Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 1:49 PM Subject: Re: HW:Brixton Votes > I wonder who the other person was to vote for Moonglum & right to decide - > he or she has good taste > > 8>) > > MichaelBlackman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jon Browne > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 7:21 AM > Subject: Re: HW:Brixton Votes > > > > Well, it's a good set list, but are they gonna do for an encore? > > > > > > >Here are the songs and votes cast so far: > > >> > > >> Master of the universe 111111111111111 > > >> Lord of light 111111111111111 > > >> Spirit Of The Age 111111111111111 > > >> Assault & Battery 1111111111 > > >> Space Is deep 11111111 > > >> Hurry on Sundown 11111111 > > >> Brainstorm 1111111 > > >> Orgone accumlator 1111111 > > >> Magnu 111111 > > >> Motorhead 111111 > > >> Seven By seven 111111 > > >> Born To Go 111111 > > >> D-Rider 11111 > > >> Damnation alley 11111 > > >> Silver Machine 1111 > > >> Utopia 1111 > > >> Paradox 1111 > > >> Levitation 1111 > > >> You shouldn't Do That 1111 > > >> Golden Void 1111 > > >> Time we left 1111 > > >> Psychedelic Warlords 111 > > >> LSD 111 > > >> Valium 10 111 > > >> Down through the night 111 > > >> Kings of speed 11 > > >> Brainbox pollution 11 > > >> Uncle Sam's On Mars 11 > > >> Lost johnny 11 > > >> Wind of Change 11 > > >> High Rise 11 > > >> Right To Decide 11 > > >> Robot 11 > > >> Hassan I Sahba 11 > > >> Opa Loka 11 > > >> Moonglum 11 > > >> Its so Easy 11 > > >> Psi Power 11 > > >> Seeing it as you really are 11 > > >> PXR5 11 > > >> Shot down in the night 11 > > >> Aerospaceage Inferno 11 > > >> Lighthouse 11 > > >> Treadmill 11 > > >> Motorway City > > >> Love In Space > > >> Flying Doctor > > >> Forge Of Vulcan > > >> Earth Calling > > >> Steppenwolf > > >> The Watcher > > >> Dust of time > > >> I am the reptoid > > >> Alchemy > > >> Urban Guerilla > > >> Rocky Paths > > >> Green Finned demon > > >> Hippy > > >> Blue Skin > > >> disco tango > > >> Flying Doctor > > >> Kerb Crawler > > >> Dying Seas > > >> Reefer Madness > > >> Infinity > > >> Dreaming city > > >> Farenheit 451 > > >> Demented man > > >> Ghost Dance > > >> Heads > > >> Alien I am > > >> Mirror Of Illusion > > >> Social alliance > > >> Quark S & C > > >> Out Of The Shadows > > >> Right Stuff > > >> Knife Edge > > >> Death Trap > > >> Angels Of Death > > > > -- > > Jon From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Aug 27 09:34:30 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 14:34:30 +0100 Subject: HW:Brixton Votes In-Reply-To: <000b01c01025$ace50b20$72ae08d4@d8o7x0> Message-ID: On Sun, 27 Aug 2000, Filip Vanhuyse wrote: > Why don't they just play "Space Ritual" and do the encores with > our favourites? Because we've all *got* that already :-) What'll be interesting is hearing some of the other songs get the "treatment". I don't mind what they play in fact, I'd like to hear `Damnation Alley' lots but I won't suffer if it's not there. I'm not expecting it to be the Space Ritual tour either, all I'm expecting is surprises. That's what they've always delivered before. Except... > I remember going to Sheperd's Bush a few years back and > I was told the London gigs were always something special. > Must tell you it was one of the worst Hawkwind gigs I ever saw. > And I've seen quite a few.Even more, not a month later I saw them > at Brussels(at my home country) and they were really cooking!!! > Shouldn't bothered to go to London (expencive!)anyhow. If that was 1997, I wholly agree with you. Everything was in the mid-range, you couldn't make out the bass or treble at all adequately, Crum might as well have not been there and the synths and guitars managed to blur each other out completely. But the Shepherds Bush Empire is not a good venue and it was horribly over-full. I think the Academy will be better (though obviously it would be better still if they were playing the Forum - best sound system in London). London has it too easy - the venues don't have to spend as much making things good because people will come there anyway. > Anyhow,there are profesional digital 32-track recordings from > the Brussels gig (some were released on the "In your Area" album) > But Dave has the whole gig.We talked after the gig and he wasn't > satisfied with the second part as Ron Tree and Dave couldn't hear > eachother.But I couldn't hear that.It was far superior to the London gig!!!! > So why don't we all give Dave a push in the back to release the Brussels > gig? Nuh. We've got _Hawkwind 1997_, that's none of it bad apart from the gods-awful `Fantasy' - I don't think we need any more official releases from that tour. There are plenty of other tours without coverage, some of which Dave presumably has tapes for, let's start on them :-) > Enough said,I'll be there the 21th,even at the BEEHIVE,with 2 guys who > never heard Hawkwind before. > Now that would be a challange:Everybody should bring along 2 guys who had > never been to a Hawkwind concert before!! I'm doing my best... I may get one :-) Yours, Jon From stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM Sun Aug 27 09:16:44 2000 From: stuarthamilton at STRAYDUCK.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 14:16:44 +0100 Subject: OFF: Allen Woody RIP Message-ID: >Dear family, > >There is tragic news to share. Allen Woody has passed away in his >sleep in >his New York City apartment. Further information and funeral >arrangements >are not yet known. Allen was preceded in death by his mother. He is >survived by his father Doug, wife Jenny and daughter Savannah. The >hearts >and prayers of the Allman Brothers Band, their management and >extended >family are with them and with Allen as his journey continues. > >"I see my light come shining, >>>From the west unto the east. >Any day now, any way now, >I shall be released." > >Take care and know that you are loved ... > http://www.the-rocker.co.uk - On-line dealer in previously loved records Distributor of Stone Premonitions, Century Media and Elastic Fiction releases Secure facilities and searchable catalogue at http://www.netsounds.com/zeitgeist US site at http://www.zeitgeist.gemm.com/ Blessings and peace from Zeitgeist E-Zine - http://www.zeitgeist-scot.co.uk From EliPXR5 at AOL.COM Sun Aug 27 10:20:18 2000 From: EliPXR5 at AOL.COM (Eli Friedman) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 10:20:18 EDT Subject: HW:Brixton Votes Message-ID: I'm afraid I've got some issues with the tally of votes for fan picks posted regarding the Brixton show. The tally doesn't coincide in some cases with what boc-l members have posted to the list, and I know of some songs that have definitely been voted for that came up with no tally on the list. I voted day one and voted for Motorway City, and I posted that fact to the list and its got no tally listed. I know of another case like this as well. I have no idea where that tally came from, but it seems obviously wrong, and I totally question its accuracy. Sorry, but wrong is wrong. Yours, Eli From blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Sun Aug 27 10:20:05 2000 From: blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (Gordon Reid) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 10:20:05 -0400 Subject: HW votes Message-ID: Am I the only person to vote for the Watcher, my other was Seven By Seven From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Aug 27 06:24:50 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 11:24:50 +0100 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:______ON:_Mot=F6rhead_25th_Anniversary?= Message-ID: Hi, The Double CD is out tomorrow but we've had it in and it's just fantastic - sound quality is superb and the tracks thunder like never before. The choice of tracks means it's possibly the definitive 'best of' (always open to debate) going right up to the choice of 'SnakeBite Love' and 'God Save The Queen' and the 4 extra live tracks are way cool. There's Hawkwind doing 'Motorhead' on it, the Girlschool cover and it's all in contxt with the flow of the album, although it's not in any chronological order of tracks. I'd say an essential purchase, but for those of you flushed with money, look out for the very limited edition triple LP which is very expensive but bound to disappear really fast (it may even have sold out already at source) because the packaging is fantastic with a glorious red and balck cover design unlike the CD's slip case shot of Lemmy in black and white. For once it should be around all major stores and web retailers, but hurry fast for the vinyl - we've already pre-sold all ours, even at the price!! Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrin McKeehen" To: Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 7:30 PM Subject: ON: Mot?rhead 25th Anniversary > Mot?rhead Celebrates 25 Years With London Show > > Anniversary show to be preceded by massive "Best Of" collection. > > by Alexa Williamson > LiveDaily Staff Writer > > LONDON--Mot?rhead is to play a special 25th anniversary concert at London's > Brixton Academy on October 22. The concert is titled 25 Years Doesn't Matter > Any More and will feature the line-up of Lemmy Kilmister, Phil Campbell and > Micky Dee, plus special guests. > > The speed metal pioneers, best known for the hits "Ace of Spaces" and > "Killed by Death," released their latest studio album "We Are Mot?rhead" on > May 15, which was followed by a cover of the Sex Pistols' "God Save the > Queen" on July 31. The 40-track, two-CD "The Best of Mot?rhead" will be > released through Sanctuary Records on Aug. 29 and will include four > previously unreleased live "Motorclassics." > > Before forming Mot?rhead, frontman Lemmy was in popular British space rock > band Hawkwind. He was kicked out of the band in the spring of 1975 after > spending five days in a Canadian jail for drugs possession. He formed > Mot?rhead the same year. The father of thrash metal is also in the process > of finishing his autobiography "White Line Highway," which he hopes to > release next year. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > These guys got the scoop on Lemmy and even mention HW! > > You guys across the pond are SO lucky!!! > > I hope that someone captures this event w/ some good mics and a DAT machine. > Take plenty of batteries! > > SPACE IS THERE > > D-Rider > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Sun Aug 27 12:12:18 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 12:12:18 -0400 Subject: HW:Brixton Votes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: As a compelte andd utter aside, it think it would be rather funny if HW opened the show with "You better believe it" since it took so long hypewise to get the show together. "Welcome to the Future" would be a good way to open as well, as HW ushers in the millenium en masse with past/future members. Could think of it as the show picks up where space ritual left off (and over sideways down (sorry for the gratuitous Yardbirds refernce in these parentheses). Wow! im posting on Hawkwind! Jason ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "And philosophy is wont, in fact, not infrequently, to convert itself into a kind of art of spiritual pimping.And sometimes into an opiate for lulling sorrows to sleep." - Unamuno, _Tragic Sense of Life_ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Sun Aug 27 12:23:24 2000 From: blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (Gordon Reid) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 12:23:24 -0400 Subject: HW Brixton New News Message-ID: I was talking to Alan Davey last night sat 26th , we went to see him in Hamilton doing the Motorhead tribut Ace Of Spades, anyway we were talking about the Brixton gig he was saying he has had a lot to do with it, I can't remember everthing that was said ( i was just a little bit out of it at the time ) but he did say that Bedouin will be doing a set at some point in the evening, he also said that there will be both old and new Hawkwind members there so it's not just an early line-up, Oh and he said he is back in Hawkwind he also said that steve swindeles might be involved so another Hawkwind line-up for the near future. Cant wait till the 21st. I get married the sat before the gig so this will be part of my honeymoon. Can't wait see you all there. Cheers. Gordon. From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sun Aug 27 12:55:25 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 18:55:25 +0200 Subject: HW Brixton New News Message-ID: Well seems like rumours been truth that Alan Davey wanted to return to the band,so Dave let him another go,he was the nearest to Lemmy as even better.I don't want to cause a stirr,but 1973 was 1973 and we live in 2000 (after) Christ,if you catch my drift. Always had good laughs and talks with Alan during the years. Even saw one of the first Bedouin concerts (I think it was the second ever) Still have some not thorn off tickets lying around from that concert. So if anyone's interested? Also had good contact with Sean Massett,the guitar player at that time. Did anyone knew he did some Hawkwind merchandise selling during continental tours? While on the subject,does anyone knows if "Basil" still does the sound-engineering for Hawkwind during live concerts? Found that a really decent chap. best wishes filip ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Reid To: Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 6:23 PM Subject: HW Brixton New News > I was talking to Alan Davey last night sat 26th , we went to see him in > Hamilton doing the Motorhead tribut Ace Of Spades, anyway we were talking > about the Brixton gig he was saying he has had a lot to do with it, I can't > remember everthing that was said ( i was just a little bit out of it at the > time ) but he did say that Bedouin will be doing a set at some point in the > evening, he also said that there will be both old and new Hawkwind members > there so it's not just an early line-up, Oh and he said he is back in > Hawkwind he also said that steve swindeles might be involved so another > Hawkwind line-up for the near future. Cant wait till the 21st. I get married > the sat before the gig so this will be part of my honeymoon. Can't wait see > you all there. > > Cheers. > Gordon. From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Sun Aug 27 13:36:13 2000 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 13:36:13 -0400 Subject: HW Brixton New News Attn: CAPT Brock, your crew is calling In-Reply-To: <200008271623.MAA11906@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Gordon, The Bass Master is BACK in the fold? Cool. AD, RC, and JR should really chug things along now! Do you mean that Steve Swindells is joining HW in the future, as in a Member of HW, or as an appearance at the Brixton Gig? Does the Honorable Mr. Brock (aka XXX) have a desire to add to, amplify, or correct this information? (Time to break out your VCS3 again!) At 12:23 PM 8/27/00 -0400, you wrote: >I was talking to Alan Davey last night sat 26th , we went to see him in >Hamilton doing the Motorhead tribut Ace Of Spades, anyway we were talking >about the Brixton gig he was saying he has had a lot to do with it, I can't >remember everthing that was said ( i was just a little bit out of it at the >time ) but he did say that Bedouin will be doing a set at some point in the >evening, he also said that there will be both old and new Hawkwind members >there so it's not just an early line-up, Oh and he said he is back in >Hawkwind he also said that steve swindeles might be involved so another >Hawkwind line-up for the near future. Cant wait till the 21st. I get married >the sat before the gig so this will be part of my honeymoon. Can't wait see >you all there. > >Cheers. >Gordon. From blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Sun Aug 27 13:55:04 2000 From: blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (Gordon Reid) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 13:55:04 -0400 Subject: HW Brixton New News Attn: CAPT Brock, your crew is calling Message-ID: Going by what Alan was saying it sounded to me thet Steve Swindeles would be in the new line-up. Gordon. From blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Sun Aug 27 14:02:18 2000 From: blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (Gordon Reid) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 14:02:18 -0400 Subject: HW Brixton New News Message-ID: On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 18:55:25 +0200, Filip Vanhuyse wrote: >Well seems like rumours been truth that Alan Davey wanted to >return to the band,so Dave let him another go,he was the nearest >to Lemmy as even better.I don't want to cause a stirr,but 1973 was >1973 and we live in 2000 (after) Christ,if you catch my drift. >Always had good laughs and talks with Alan during the years. >Even saw one of the first Bedouin concerts (I think it was the second ever) >Still have some not thorn off tickets lying around from that concert. >So if anyone's interested? >Also had good contact with Sean Massett,the guitar player at that time. >Did anyone knew he did some Hawkwind merchandise selling during >continental tours? >While on the subject,does anyone knows if "Basil" still does the >sound-engineering for Hawkwind during live concerts? >Found that a really decent chap. > >best wishes >filip > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Gordon Reid >To: >Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 6:23 PM >Subject: HW Brixton New News > > >> I was talking to Alan Davey last night sat 26th , we went to see him in >> Hamilton doing the Motorhead tribut Ace Of Spades, anyway we were talking >> about the Brixton gig he was saying he has had a lot to do with it, I >can't >> remember everthing that was said ( i was just a little bit out of it at >the >> time ) but he did say that Bedouin will be doing a set at some point in >the >> evening, he also said that there will be both old and new Hawkwind members >> there so it's not just an early line-up, Oh and he said he is back in >> Hawkwind he also said that steve swindeles might be involved so another >> Hawkwind line-up for the near future. Cant wait till the 21st. I get >married >> the sat before the gig so this will be part of my honeymoon. Can't wait >see >> you all there. >> >> Cheers. >> Gordon. yes i must agree that Alan is the next best to Lemmy. (then Ron he is good) P.S Filip I still need you to e-mail me with your address so we can do that trade, hope to here from you soon. Gordon. From flossbac at NLCI.COM Sun Aug 27 15:29:10 2000 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 14:29:10 -0500 Subject: HW: So Alan's back! Message-ID: Wow, that's great news that Alan is once again taking up the Bass Assassin role in Hawkwind! I always loved his playing, and with him back in the fold, Hawkwind will have a monstrous rhythm section--Alan Davey + Richard Chadwick = pure bliss! John Majka From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Aug 27 16:11:51 2000 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:11:51 +0100 Subject: HW Brixton New News Attn: CAPT Brock, your crew is calling Message-ID: >The Bass Master is BACK in the fold? Cool. > >AD, RC, and JR should really chug things along now! > >Do you mean that Steve Swindells is joining HW in the future, as in a >Member of HW, or as an appearance at the Brixton Gig? > >Does the Honorable Mr. Brock (aka XXX) have a desire to add to, amplify, or >correct this information? > > >(Time to break out your VCS3 again!) > Didn't Dave mention in one the open forums thingies recently that he'd been talking to Steve Swindells about doing something in the near future, or was that Tim Blake? It'll be good to see Alan back in the fold, for sure. Nick PS Got Acid Jam 2 this week - Deep Space Divers is superb, how about having the Frond doing that at Brixton then? Having Mr Shaw around for later wouldn't go amiss either. From artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM Sun Aug 27 16:48:22 2000 From: artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM (Gary Davis) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 16:48:22 -0400 Subject: David Roter Method/They Made Me Message-ID: Hi, folks: The latest Artist Shop newsletter is out and you'll find it in its entirety at . Here's an excerpt Brain Surgeons and BOC fans will appreciate. Available Now from Cellsum Records David Roter Method/They Made Me Singer/songwriter David Roter returns with his rather bizarre and twisted sense of humor still intact. This album is definitely not for the prudish! This album was produced by Albert Bouchard and features Al, Joe Bouchard, Buck Dharma, Tommy Mandel, Crispin Cioe and more. Fans of the Brain Surgeons and BOC will enjoy this! soundbite Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop.com phone: 877-856-1158, 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 INDEPENDENT PROGRESSIVE MUSIC!!! ************************************************************** Artist Shop Radio Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Aug 27 17:47:09 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 22:47:09 +0100 Subject: HW Brixton New News Attn: CAPT Brock, your crew is calling Message-ID: that was Tim Blake!!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Lee" To: Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2000 9:11 PM Subject: Re: HW Brixton New News Attn: CAPT Brock, your crew is calling > >The Bass Master is BACK in the fold? Cool. > > > >AD, RC, and JR should really chug things along now! > > > >Do you mean that Steve Swindells is joining HW in the future, as in a > >Member of HW, or as an appearance at the Brixton Gig? > > > >Does the Honorable Mr. Brock (aka XXX) have a desire to add to, amplify, or > >correct this information? > > > > > >(Time to break out your VCS3 again!) > > > > Didn't Dave mention in one the open forums thingies recently that he'd been > talking to Steve Swindells about doing something in the near future, or was > that Tim Blake? > It'll be good to see Alan back in the fold, for sure. > > Nick > > PS Got Acid Jam 2 this week - Deep Space Divers is superb, how about having > the Frond doing that at Brixton then? Having Mr Shaw around for later > wouldn't go amiss either. From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sun Aug 27 18:07:27 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 18:07:27 -0400 Subject: Issuance of statement regarding proposed Sloterdijk tour of the U.K. Message-ID: Hello all, As many of you know, I have been trying to throw together a small string of shows in the United Kingdom. All this has been done on extremely short notice, mostly because I wanted to try and coordinate something, wherein which I would be able to attend the Stourbridge all day gathering of Hawkwind friends and relations. In addition, I was hoping that while crisscrossing around I would catch up with my friend Thom (The World Poet) Woodruff, who will be touring the U.K. in October. Now many of you have written to me with kind offers of hospitality, support and assistance in setting up gigs, in essence responding to my own call for help..Several lucrative proposals have already been talked about, but alas, my own financial situation has necessitated the writing of this statement, whereby I have no choice but to report, that the U.K. visit must be temporarily postponed. Examining the existing airfares was all it took for me to quickly realize that it is not currently feasible for me to make the trip. I now propose to make the trip in February, when I will be able to take the exact same flights for 50-55% percent less money. With roughly 4 months of planning time, I believe a more proper tour can be arranged. To those of you whom have offered help, I say "thank you", and ask if you would continue your support and assistance. Without " people" it just doesn't happen. To ride the underground railroad, one needs places to stop, and operative contacts. Any of you who would like to help in setting up gigs in the U.K. between February 9th-23rd, just drop a line. Another good thing which will come from this delay, is the increased possibility of having additional musicians coming over for at least some of the shows. Jay Adcock and Robert McConnel have both expressed sincere interest in joining me for as much time as they can afford. Although I'll be missing some events which I would really like to be part of, the added planning time, will help to make the visit in february that much more organized. Thanks so much, Peace, Mike Burro (Sloterdijk) http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Sun Aug 27 20:33:53 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 19:33:53 -0500 Subject: HW: Halloween 82 chain Message-ID: The 10/31/1982 Bristol chain is ready to go. Disc I Choose Your Masques 7:07 Coded Languages 5:11 Magnu 5:02 Dust Of Time 3:57 Waiting For Tomorrow 6:14 Angels Of Death 6:49 Ghost Dance 4:53 Golden Void 3:12 Psychedelic Warlords 5:05 47:34 Disc II Psychedelic Warlord Jam 1:52 Creatures Of The Nite 4:59 Utopia 2:20 Arrival In Utopia 6:04 Solitary Mind Games 6:22 Sonic Attack 5:53 Dream Worker 5:34 Brainstorm 9:48 Ejection 4:46 (encore) 47:42 total Sound quality is quite good. Ejection fades out due to the master tape running out, I'm not sure if they performed another encore that night. Fabulous artwork by Kevin Sommers included for this show. Once again, send me a PRIVATE email to sign up for the the chain. It'll probably start off in about 5 days. dan From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Aug 28 00:09:28 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 13:39:28 +0930 Subject: Australian Adventurers?? Message-ID: Hey ... Are there any other Australian Hawkwind fans going to Brixton besides me? Any Canadians? Thats where I was born, Hey. ***** To Dr Technical ******* This trip is gonna be a trip!!!!! A week of relative freedom. Hawkwind Saturday Night Motorhead Sunday Night 8>) 8>) 8>) 8>) 8>) Cheers ******************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU Mon Aug 28 00:29:00 2000 From: michaelangelo68 at OZEMAIL.COM.AU (michael blackman) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 13:59:00 +0930 Subject: regarding hawkwind vids Message-ID: I dont know if this helps but it may be of interest? http://outlawtv.simplenet.com/music/hawkwind/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Mon Aug 28 05:40:29 2000 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:40:29 +1100 Subject: HW Brixton New News Attn: CAPT Brock, your crew is calling Message-ID: On 27 Aug 2000, at 21:11, Nick Lee wrote: > PS Got Acid Jam 2 this week - Deep Space Divers is superb, how about > having the Frond doing that at Brixton then? Having Mr Shaw around for > later wouldn't go amiss either. Got mine today ... only ordered it last week ... not bad all the way to Oz! I asked Ade about the Brixton gig last week - he said that Doug Smith had asked him to join in and he probably would ... he didn't say anything about BF being there though .... Sonique From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Mon Aug 28 07:21:21 2000 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:21:21 +1100 Subject: OFF: Calling Knut Gerwers Message-ID: Sorry for the bandwidth wastage folks. Does anyone out there have a current address for Knut Gerwers?? Thanks in Advance, Sonique From nick at NETPHD.NET Mon Aug 28 09:16:51 2000 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:16:51 -0400 Subject: BOC: Songs that Set the Hook (was: Re: So long and thanks for all the hawks) In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000825185116.008d4460@flite.net> Message-ID: In 1980, as an 11-year-old Godzilla fan, I first heard the BOC tune about my favorite film star. Rushed out and purchased the Spectres LP. . . and loved it. I know now that other BOC albums have been far better, but this one will always hold a special place in my heart, especially for its lesser-known gems like Death Valley Nights, Nosferatu, I Love the Night and my all- time favorite BOC song to this day -- FIREWORKS! --Nick From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 28 09:21:47 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 14:21:47 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig In-Reply-To: Jill Strobridge's message of Fri, 25 Aug 2000 21:18:41 +0100 Message-ID: Jill Strobridge writes: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: M Holmes > To: > Sent: Friday, August 25, 2000 2:25 PM > Subject: Re: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig > > > > Clemens & Associates Inc writes: > > > > > Maybe there is a hotel where us out-of-towners could stay, like a > > > mini-convention, and use a banquet room for our pre-concert > get-together? > > > > Reasonable plan. Can anyone check out hotels near Brixton? Camden > maybe? > > Yeah - well - I've been struggling with London maps for the past couple > of nights and can say categorically that Camden is nowhere near Brixton! > However Clapham Camden, Clapham. I always get those two confused. IIRC it's a 20 minute walk from Brixton to Clapham. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 28 09:31:52 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 14:31:52 +0100 Subject: HW Brixton New News Attn: CAPT Brock, your crew is calling In-Reply-To: Gordon Reid's message of Sun, 27 Aug 2000 13:55:04 -0400 Message-ID: Gordon Reid writes: > Going by what Alan was saying it sounded to me thet Steve Swindeles would be > in the new line-up. Does that mean that Tim Blake isn't? FoFP From micci at SCI.FI Mon Aug 28 10:08:54 2000 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:08:54 +0300 Subject: HW:Brixton Votes Message-ID: Hi! >Enough said,I'll be there the 21th,even at the BEEHIVE,with 2 guys who >never heard Hawkwind before. >Now that would be a challange:Everybody should bring along 2 guys who had >never been to a Hawkwind concert before!! > >best wishes >filip hawknut Yeah, if you pay our trip?! ;-)) It?s very sad, but I don?t have any opportunity to be there. I wish VERY good gig to everybody and please, record it! Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Mon Aug 28 11:01:19 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 08:01:19 -0700 Subject: BOC: Songs that Set the Hook Message-ID: Hmm.. Perhaps its because of my age. We tend to look back fondly on what we liked when we were young. To me, the first 3 BOC albums were *it*. Personally, I think BOC hit their peak with Secret Treaties. Everything after just pales for me. I tend to think of BOC as almost two bands, pre-ST and post-ST. OYFOOYK was great fun but I was mad because I remember on the last tour before they came out with it, Eric had said something to the effect that they were recording so, "make a lot of noise!" I was dissappointed to find no cuts from my home town on it. Seriously, it was a little sloppier and poorly recorded for my 10 bucks. Most every album past Spectres had at least a song or two on it that I liked but were hardly classics. I especially liked Mirrors and Cultosaurus. I bought both Revolution by Night and Club Ninja as they came out and I could count the number of times I've listened to those albums on one hand. Very bland and boring to me. I consider ST to be ground breaking and classic but BOC has never surpassed it. Imaginos is another classic IMO but as I discovered (much to my disappointment), you can call it a BOC album only in the broadest sense. I remember hearing it the first time and being so blown away and thinking, "wow! They're back!" I'm afraid BOC has become a nostalgia act for me as well. It seems to me that if you look at what they're doing live these days (er, its been about 3 years since I last caught them), thats about what they want to be. JB > -----Original Message----- > From: ANDREW GARIBALDI [mailto:andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM] > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 4:39 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: BOC: Songs that Set the Hook > > > Neat set of thoughts. > For my pasrt I loved the first four albums ages back but in > the light of > the Y2K, they don't have the magic and necessry kick-ass > ingredients that > stand up as classics. In the light of this penchant by groups > and record > labels to remaster everything in sight from the '70's, I keep > hoping that > the first three studio albums will get the treatment. As to > 'On Your Feet', > I remember a certain Geoff Barton proclaiming it as one of > the greatest live > albumson the planet, yet like so many live albums, the post-production > flattened it and the vibrancy was not there, again a classic > case for a > remaster, perhaps. As to later albums, well. 'Agents' earned > them loads but > screwed the machinery real bad that it took several albums for them to > recover (in my humble opinion). The two subsequent live > albums came close to > wild abandon,but it was 'Imaginos' that really put them back > on track and > 'Revolution By Night' that put them back up there with the > greats ( my fave > album) > I must admit that, apart from the album of re-recordings of > old classics > ('Champions Of Rock'), which strangely had mixed results (who > was playing on > this??), I've lost sight of the band for the last few years, > so really can't > comment on late '90's activity - here's hoping their light > will shine again > one day. > Andy Garibaldi (with my last on the subject - Motorhead > tomorrow - look > forward to that one, folks) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bolts of Ungodly Vision" > To: > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2000 2:25 AM > Subject: Re: BOC: Songs that Set the Hook > > > > >songs, thought, "They're pretty good!", and have been a > rabid BOC fan > since. > > > > Cuz I havent been list present in a while, heres my stab > at BOC hookery > > and geegoshwow points of origin locating. Though I gotta > admit now, Im > not > > rabid. > > Occasionally I;ll foam during a praticualr track at a > particular volume > in............................. > From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Mon Aug 28 11:17:02 2000 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:17:02 +0100 Subject: OFF: Pedantry Message-ID: Darn ! Doesn't matter how pedantic you get with yourself, some bugger can always do better ! ;-) Anyways, in the event none of the list members appeared so a fun night for all was missed by some, nyah nyah :)) Subjectively and objectively, but non-pedantically yours Mark (Hasbeen) (Who plans to get to Brixton before everybody and gain a position of maximum proximity to either bar.) >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:08:17 +0100 >From: Richard Lockwood >Subject: off: Pedantry > >> >> BTW, who's going to see me and Jez on Friday then ? >> >> (Yes I know it should read Jez and I) >> >> Mark (Hasbeen) > >No it shouldn't. > >Jez and I went to the Gig. >Everyone came to the gig to see me and Jez. > >Subject / object thingy. > >Cheers, > >Rich. (Donning the mantle of pedantry) From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Mon Aug 28 11:19:53 2000 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 16:19:53 +0100 Subject: HW: Badges. Message-ID: Great plan, but . . . Think what'll happen if everybody gets Lemmy the obvious choice of a bottle of Jack !!! Ashe ob Shpadesh anybody :) Mark (Hasbeen) >> what about designing a name badge for everyone (downloadable >> via the web ) I'm >> afaid I can't do it as my artistic merits are about the same >> standard as the >> russian submarine service !! >> >> I'm also thinking about getting the band a pressy for all >> those years of >> pleasure the music has given me. >> >> love, light and peace >> >> Merrick & Julie French From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 28 11:30:39 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 11:30:39 EDT Subject: BOC: Songs that Set the Hook In-Reply-To: <4973895A322CD411A6B000A0C96E9611207371@C2> Message-ID: On 28 Aug 00, at 8:01, Joseph Brooks wrote: > Hmm.. Perhaps its because of my age. We tend to look back fondly on > what we liked when we were young. To me, the first 3 BOC albums were > *it*. Personally, I think BOC hit their peak with Secret Treaties. > Everything after just pales for me. I tend to think of BOC as almost > two bands, pre-ST and post-ST. Yep, no doubt about it. One has to grudgingly admit the brilliance of SP and RM in helping give BOC a shot of lyric adrenaline in the early days, one which, sad to say, has been lacking in the group since then. Granted Albert could always be counted upon to kick in a great song here and there [along with the odd flyer too] as could Buck, but the first 3 were IT... > > OYFOOYK was great fun but I was mad because I remember on the last > tour before they came out with it, Eric had said something to the > effect that they were recording so, "make a lot of noise!" I was > dissappointed to find no cuts from my home town on it. Seriously, it > was a little sloppier and poorly recorded for my 10 bucks. > Agreed. It's almost heresy in these parts to critique OYF...as it seems a favorite of a lot of folk on the list, but I too was disappointed when it came out. It wasn't anywhere near as good as concerts I'd already seen by BOC to that point! > Most every album past Spectres had at least a song or two on it that I > liked but were hardly classics. I especially liked Mirrors and > Cultosaurus. I bought both Revolution by Night and Club Ninja as they > came out and I could count the number of times I've listened to those > albums on one hand. Very bland and boring to me. While, overall, I was disappointed by them, I nonetheless listened to each countless times. Anything with BD's guitar on it is eminently listenable [well, okay, most of CN is unlistenable--guess any band deserves one clanger]... > I consider ST to be ground breaking and classic but BOC has never > surpassed it. Never approached it since, though the first 2 are close, if a step behind... Imaginos is another classic IMO but as I discovered > (much to my disappointment), you can call it a BOC album only in the > broadest sense. I remember hearing it the first time and being so > blown away and thinking, "wow! They're back!" > > I'm afraid BOC has become a nostalgia act for me as well. It seems to > me that if you look at what they're doing live these days (er, its > been about 3 years since I last caught them), thats about what they > want to be. > I hate to do it, but I agree with you. They act like a nostalgia act, and play nostalgia gigs: '...if it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck...' BUT, OTOH, HF was way better than I'd imagined it would be, and BD is far from Going Through the Motions at their live shows. Ironically, BD has never played as well as he's doing nowadays. I still go way out of my way to catch their shows, so I guess they're still doing something right. I could do without the drum and bass solos, and some of the other campy shit they pull out of their hats-- it's a sad testimony to BOC fans that the group feels like they need to do that not to disappoint them! There's still plenty of good music left in the band, and I'm not quite ready to write them off yet. One listen to Flaming Telepaths live would convince anyone of that... theo From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Mon Aug 28 12:13:59 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 09:13:59 -0700 Subject: BOC: Songs that Set the Hook Message-ID: > Yep, no doubt about it. One has to grudgingly admit the brilliance of > SP and RM in helping give BOC a shot of lyric adrenaline in the early > days, one which, sad to say, has been lacking in the group since > then. We think alike. Lyrics are more important to me than I like to admit. They are a big part of what drew me in to BOC in the first place. Spooky, funny, mystical and odd all at the same time... >Granted Albert could always be counted upon to kick in a great > song here and there [along with the odd flyer too] as could Buck, but No doubt. The BD songs are for the most part, the only thing that saves many of the later releases (IMO). "Dancing in the Ruins" was the only song off CN that I could bear listening to. > While, overall, I was disappointed by them, I nonetheless listened to > each countless times. Anything with BD's guitar on it is eminently > listenable [well, okay, most of CN is unlistenable--guess any band > deserves one clanger]... What I finally did was take the few songs from each that I deemed worthy and make my own "best of" tape. > > BUT, OTOH, HF was way better than I'd imagined it would be, and Sorry to say, I didn't care for HF much at all. With the exception of 1 song, I find the lyrics hackneyed, awkward and cliche` and the music, while *OK* is largely not what I consider BOC style, its more like they're trying to emulate the younger bands out there that have replaced them. If it wasn't for the familiar voices of EB & BD, I think I'd not even recognize it as BOC (well, except that BD's guitar work is always distinctive and recognizable). > BD is far from Going Through the Motions at their live shows. > Ironically, BD has never played as well as he's doing nowadays. > I still go way out of my way to catch their shows, so I guess they're > still doing something right. Agreed. I've been catching them live for 26 years. No reason to stop now. They can still please. >I could do without the drum and bass > solos, and some of the other campy shit they pull out of their hats-- Hey, we need that time to go stand in the beer line! > it's a sad testimony to BOC fans that the group feels like > they need to > do that not to disappoint them! Thats one of my biggest gripes. I would be FLOORED if they did a show and skipped the "big three". I've heard them enough. Play something thats more of a challenge both to the band AND the audience. >There's still plenty of good > music left > in the band, and I'm not quite ready to write them off yet. Definitely not. I will buy their CD's and go to their shows for as long as they feel fit to keep going (and keep at least the last 3 original members). And I will be entertained. But its more out of a sense of nostalgia and.. loyalty to my roots (?) than in any expectation of seeing anything really new and exciting. I suppose I'd better get off my ass and do some actual work now, eh? > One listen > to Flaming Telepaths live would convince anyone of > that... "..and the joke's on YOU!" JB From denis at D-RIDER.DE Mon Aug 28 12:48:15 2000 From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:48:15 +0200 Subject: HW: So Alan's back! In-Reply-To: <001701c0105d$13ca4580$666040ce@pavilion> Message-ID: Hi, >Wow, that's great news that Alan is once again taking up the Bass Assassin >role in Hawkwind! Yup. Really great news!! [1] Any ideas, what will happen to Ron now? Will he return to the "only-front-man"-role, or will he leave the band (if he hasn't already done it - it was relatively quiet about him the last few months)? (c)IAO D+R [1] although Ade Shaw rejoining would be even better IMO From denis at D-RIDER.DE Mon Aug 28 12:54:22 2000 From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:54:22 +0200 Subject: HW Brixton New News Attn: CAPT Brock, your crew is calling In-Reply-To: <200008281331.OAA00965@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi, > > Going by what Alan was saying it sounded to me thet Steve Swindeles > would be > > in the new line-up. > >Does that mean that Tim Blake isn't? I'd rather see Tim Blake back on the mothership than Steve Swindells. Steve is without doubt a good keyboardist, but IMO Tim is _the_ synth-man! (c)IAO D+R From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 28 13:04:31 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:04:31 +0100 Subject: HW Brixton New News Attn: CAPT Brock, your crew is calling In-Reply-To: Denis Regenbrecht's message of Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:54:22 +0200 Message-ID: Denis Regenbrecht writes: > Hi, > > > > Going by what Alan was saying it sounded to me thet Steve Swindeles > > would be > > > in the new line-up. > > > >Does that mean that Tim Blake isn't? > > I'd rather see Tim Blake back on the mothership than Steve Swindells. Steve > is without doubt a good keyboardist, but IMO Tim is _the_ synth-man! Yep, no doubt about that. FoFP From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Mon Aug 28 13:26:24 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 13:26:24 -0400 Subject: HW: So Alan's back! In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.0.20000828184259.00ae9a80@post.strato.de> Message-ID: >> Wow, that's great news that Alan is once again taking up the Bass Assassin >> role in Hawkwind! > > Yup. Really great news!! [1] > > Any ideas, what will happen to Ron now? Will he return to the > "only-front-man"-role, or will he leave the band (if he hasn't already done > it - it was relatively quiet about him the last few months)? > > (c)IAO > > D+R > > [1] although Ade Shaw rejoining would be even better IMO Only if Ade could also continue touring (and recording, for now anyway) with The Bevis Frond, and still find time to record the occasional solo album.... Brian From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Mon Aug 28 13:29:22 2000 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 19:29:22 +0200 Subject: HW: Brixton Votes Message-ID: Andy Gilham schrieb: > Well, it's out of date, but how did you get hold of this? > > -- Andy Well, I have my sources. But how do you know that it is out of date? Can you provide us with a more actual list? Andreas From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Mon Aug 28 13:29:21 2000 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 19:29:21 +0200 Subject: The Hawkestra Name Badge Message-ID: michael blackman schrieb: > I was enlightened tonight by a wise man who said that it would be more > practical & cheaper if the name badges were handed out on the night. > > Hows that sound. All I need is names and I can get the ball rolling > > Ihave 4 names so far. > > Cheers Michael Blackman Count me in as well, Andreas From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Aug 28 13:31:56 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:31:56 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig In-Reply-To: <200008281321.OAA27048@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > IIRC it's a 20 minute walk from Brixton to Clapham. Took Ron Davies a bit longer, though. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Aug 28 13:38:07 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 18:38:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Votes In-Reply-To: <13TSio-2DbbOsC@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> Message-ID: > Well, I have my sources. But how do you know that it is out of > date? Can you > provide us with a more actual list? I could, but it's not up to me! -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Aug 28 14:10:07 2000 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 19:10:07 +0100 Subject: HW: So Alan's back! Message-ID: Well I'm a little confused here. What is the evidence for this? Would be great news if true and would indicate DB has touring/recording plans afoot. But unless I missed part of this thread somehow..... Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Denis Regenbrecht To: Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 5:48 PM Subject: Re: HW: So Alan's back! > Hi, > > >Wow, that's great news that Alan is once again taking up the Bass Assassin > >role in Hawkwind! > > Yup. Really great news!! [1] > > Any ideas, what will happen to Ron now? Will he return to the > "only-front-man"-role, or will he leave the band (if he hasn't already done > it - it was relatively quiet about him the last few months)? > > (c)IAO > > D+R > > [1] although Ade Shaw rejoining would be even better IMO > From colm1 at MINISTRYOFSOUND.NET Mon Aug 28 15:14:45 2000 From: colm1 at MINISTRYOFSOUND.NET (bedroom trancer) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 20:14:45 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: got my tickets today at ticketmaster see you all there colm -----Original Message----- From: Michael Crook To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 25 August 2000 19:12 Subject: Re: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) >Hello Everyone, > >Iain Wrote: >>I simply cannot wait till the 21st... and by the way the TICKWEB tickets >>arrived today everyone who's waiting on them. >> >>Love & Peace >>Iain ferguson > >Mine arrived today too, so my initial fears about Ticketweb were unfounded. I won't hesitate to use them again. > >Mick Crook > > > > >-------------------- >talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Aug 28 15:22:37 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 15:22:37 -0400 Subject: OFF: Krel Message-ID: Hi there... I *just* received a copy of Christopher Williams' Adrift in the Ether (looks like an essential thing to have!), and noticed an early (1992) cassette release listed for Krel called 'Dark Star.' Can anyone tell me if that includes a track by the name 'Dark Star?' If so, I would like to obtain a copy of said track, preferably pre-digitised (eg., .wav) but dubbed onto a separate cassette would work also. I'm making a collection of 'Dark Star'-related music tracks (bands and songs of that name) to produce a theme radio show for a-i.com. Side note...are any of these old Krel cassettes going to see the light of day again, perhaps as a compilation CD? Andy? Grakkl (FAA) From colm1 at MINISTRYOFSOUND.NET Mon Aug 28 16:39:15 2000 From: colm1 at MINISTRYOFSOUND.NET (bedroom trancer) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 21:39:15 +0100 Subject: HW Brixton New News Attn: CAPT Brock, your crew is calling Message-ID: doesn't steve swindells do stuff thats kinda like speed garage on the same record label as shanks and bigfoot? is he still into space rock then? colm -----Original Message----- From: Nick Lee To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 27 August 2000 21:15 Subject: Re: HW Brixton New News Attn: CAPT Brock, your crew is calling >>The Bass Master is BACK in the fold? Cool. >> >>AD, RC, and JR should really chug things along now! >> >>Do you mean that Steve Swindells is joining HW in the future, as in a >>Member of HW, or as an appearance at the Brixton Gig? >> >>Does the Honorable Mr. Brock (aka XXX) have a desire to add to, amplify, or >>correct this information? >> >> >>(Time to break out your VCS3 again!) >> > >Didn't Dave mention in one the open forums thingies recently that he'd been >talking to Steve Swindells about doing something in the near future, or was >that Tim Blake? >It'll be good to see Alan back in the fold, for sure. > >Nick > >PS Got Acid Jam 2 this week - Deep Space Divers is superb, how about having >the Frond doing that at Brixton then? Having Mr Shaw around for later >wouldn't go amiss either. > From colm1 at MINISTRYOFSOUND.NET Mon Aug 28 16:44:02 2000 From: colm1 at MINISTRYOFSOUND.NET (bedroom trancer) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 21:44:02 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig Message-ID: hey when i go to the academy i always meet up with people at the prince of wales, its quite a big pub u just turn left when u walk out of brixton tube station and its a bout a minutes walk down the road on the left. colm -----Original Message----- From: Richard Lockwood To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 24 August 2000 10:01 Subject: Re: HW: Meeting before Brixton gig >> By the sound of it its going to take about 3 hours to get served in the >Beehive - I must make sure to get a few down on the way there! >> > >Again - I'd strongly suggest meeting elsewhere. The Beehive gets ****ing >heaving. Even if we have to leave the pub a bit earlier. > >Cheers, > >Rich. > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Aug 28 17:20:10 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:20:10 +0100 Subject: OFF: Krel Message-ID: Yes - a double compilation CD of Krel material is in the planning stages and will include a fair wadge of music that has not so far seen the light of day on any format as well as remastered and even remixed stuff from the cassettes. Release probably around Xmas time if negotiations go well. Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "K Henderson" To: Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 8:22 PM Subject: OFF: Krel > Hi there... > > I *just* received a copy of Christopher Williams' Adrift in the Ether (looks > like an essential thing to have!), and noticed an early (1992) cassette > release listed for Krel called 'Dark Star.' > > Can anyone tell me if that includes a track by the name 'Dark Star?' If so, > I would like to obtain a copy of said track, preferably pre-digitised (eg., > .wav) but dubbed onto a separate cassette would work also. I'm making a > collection of 'Dark Star'-related music tracks (bands and songs of that > name) to produce a theme radio show for a-i.com. > > Side note...are any of these old Krel cassettes going to see the light of > day again, perhaps as a compilation CD? Andy? > > Grakkl (FAA) From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Aug 28 17:24:57 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 17:24:57 -0400 Subject: HW: Badges. In-Reply-To: <91BAA0121CBDD31183B400A0CC585F7103BF2A@BRIGHTON>; from mark@ESPARTO.UK.COM on Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 04:19:53PM +0100 Message-ID: He wasn't there when we gave the band T-shirts. His loss... On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 04:19:53PM +0100, Mark Lee wrote: > Great plan, but . . . > > Think what'll happen if everybody gets Lemmy the obvious choice > of a bottle of Jack !!! Ashe ob Shpadesh anybody :) > > Mark (Hasbeen) > > >> what about designing a name badge for everyone (downloadable > >> via the web ) I'm > >> afaid I can't do it as my artistic merits are about the same > >> standard as the > >> russian submarine service !! > >> > >> I'm also thinking about getting the band a pressy for all > >> those years of > >> pleasure the music has given me. > >> > >> love, light and peace > >> > >> Merrick & Julie French -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft -- but they could get fired for relying on Microsoft. - Chris Garrigues From nick at NETPHD.NET Mon Aug 28 19:49:42 2000 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 19:49:42 -0400 Subject: BOC: X-Brothers In-Reply-To: <4973895A322CD411A6B000A0C96E9611207371@C2> Message-ID: I finally got my hands on a copy of X-Brothers -- "Solid Citizens". . . and I really, really like it. Maybe I'm just way off base here, but there's some intangible, classic BOC-ish quality that I'm hearing in these songs that really makes me think Joe was a much bigger part of the overall Cult sound than I'd realized. I can't put my finger on it, and having no musical skills of my own, I wouldn't know the terminology anyway -- but the best way I can describe it is that "Solid Citizens" in many ways felt more like a BOC album than "Heaven Forbid" or any of the Brain Surgeons stuff. Yes, it's got its misses, but overall, the time I spent searching for this thing was time well spent. --Nick From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Aug 28 22:15:52 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:15:52 EDT Subject: OFF: Krel/Dark Star Message-ID: Keith, You probably already know this, but just in case: On Spacehead's "In Space We Trust" CD, there is a song called "Dark Star" (damn good one, too). Mr. Dibbs of SH used to be w/Krel, so there might be a connection there... Chuck From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Mon Aug 28 22:47:11 2000 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:47:11 -0400 Subject: HW: So Alan's back! In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.0.20000828184259.00ae9a80@post.strato.de> Message-ID: If Ron were to leave, I for one, would prefer to see another front man come forward. Does anyone know if Bobby Calvert had any poetry-swilling offspring interested in the muzik biz? At 06:48 PM 8/28/00 +0200, you wrote: >Hi, > >>Wow, that's great news that Alan is once again taking up the Bass Assassin >>role in Hawkwind! > >Yup. Really great news!! [1] > >Any ideas, what will happen to Ron now? Will he return to the >"only-front-man"-role, or will he leave the band (if he hasn't already done >it - it was relatively quiet about him the last few months)? > >(c)IAO > > D+R > >[1] although Ade Shaw rejoining would be even better IMO From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Aug 28 22:40:01 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 22:40:01 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" 8/26/00 (Q-space int 9/9!) Message-ID: ANNOUNCEMENT: on 9/9/00 I'll be interviewing Quarkspace on-the-air! 8/26/00 1.F/i--Looking for my Head (Out of Space and Out of Time) 2.ST 37--Palpable (I Love to Talk, if There's Anything to Talk About) 3.Spacious Mind--Interplanetary Love Machine (Organic Mind Solution) interspersed w/ST 37 interview: 4.ST 37--Surfin w/the Shah (Derobe split-LP w/Voco Kesh) 5. " --Nicht Jetzt (Derobe; Spaceage) 6. " --Acetone (I Love to Talk...) 7. " --Concrete Island (Spaceage) 8.Chrome--Anti-Fade (Subterranean Modern compililation; Chrome Box) 9.Incredible Expanding Mind-fuck--Deafman (self-titled) 10.Can--Mushroom (Tago Mago; Cannibalism 1) 11.Hawkwind--title track (P.X.R.5) Thanks, Chuck "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-7pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS for WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER: KUCR is now available on Windows Media Player 7.0 which many of you have already. Otherwise it can be downloaded from Microsoft for free. Connect to the Internet and open Windows Media Player. Select file from the menu and then "open URL". Type in http://www.kucr.org:8000 and say OK. WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS for WINAMP: Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to hear KUCR. http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your computer. After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program (Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the following http://www.kucr.org:8000 Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up, double click again to reconnect. WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS For REAL-AUDIO: KUCR is now available on RealPlayer from RealAudio. Many of you Windows and Mac users already have it so no download and installation would be necessary. Connect to the Internet and open RealPlayer. Select file from the menu and then "open location". Type in http://www.kucr.org:8000 and say OK. Repeat the process if you lose the station at any time. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Aug 28 21:48:20 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 21:48:20 -0400 Subject: OFF: Krel/Dark Star Message-ID: Chuck said... >You probably already know this, but just in case: > >On Spacehead's "In Space We Trust" CD, there is a song called "Dark Star" >(damn good one, too). Mr. Dibbs of SH used to be w/Krel, so there might be a >connection there... Oh, yeah, you're right. I had made a mental note of that track when I first got that ISWT album, but today didn't make the connection from that back to Krel. I imagine that it's the same tune, tho' prolly not the same version. That'll be good enuf for puttin' on the radio show tho'. So I guess I don't need to beg for that file/tape after all. And thanks to Andy Gee, it looks like the best of this old Krel stuff will be reborn soon anyway. Signing off 'till Friday (vacation time)... Grakkl (FAA) ObCD: Here & Now - Gospel of Free From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Tue Aug 29 00:16:58 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 00:16:58 EDT Subject: OFF: NUGENT: can the 'new right wing' be far behind? Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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There is one safe way to go with this: use a debit card with just enough money in the account to cover the bill... theo From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Tue Aug 29 08:23:45 2000 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:23:45 -0400 Subject: BOC: Songs that Set the Hook Message-ID: Allright, I suppose it's high time I de-lurk and weigh in on this one. > > In 1980, as an 11-year-old Godzilla fan, I first heard > the BOC tune about my favorite film star. Rushed out > and purchased the Spectres LP. . . and loved it. My BOC inititiation was similar. Around 1979, after a steady 2-3-year diet of KISS in my early teens, I heard that this band called "Blue Oyster Cult" had a song called "Godzilla" - having been (and continue to be) a huge Godzilla fan, I decided to check it out - and found a used copy of "Some Enchanted Evening" at my local record store (one that sold lots of bootlegs - I remember in the BOC section some album called "In My Mouth or On the Ground" - which of course I later found out was the 4-song live recording from '72 - I just wished I had bought a copy back then). And I was blown away by BOC - I had previously heard "The Reaper" on the radio, as when that track came on it sounded familiar - but besides "Godzilla", at the time "Kick Out the Jams" (not even a BOC tune!) may have been my favorite track (maybe it's because it sounded the most like KISS?). Anyway, I started picking up a few other albums - I remember getting "On Your Feet..." and this is where I was really "hooked" - I could listen to "The Subhuman", "Harvest of Eyes", "The Red & The Black", and "Seven Screaming Diz-Busters" in particular over and over again... I never got to see BOC live until 1982 when I went off to college, and I played lots of BOC in those years (and got to see BOC 2 more times in Boston while there), and sometime after "Imaginos" came out, lost track of the band. Then, somewhere around 1993 or so, I found out about this email list called "BOC-L" . . . > > I consider ST to be ground breaking and classic but BOC has never surpassed > it. Imaginos is another classic IMO but as I discovered (much to my > disappointment), you can call it a BOC album only in the broadest sense. I > remember hearing it the first time and being so blown away and thinking, > "wow! They're back!" Yep. At the time I thought Imaginos was just the most kick-ass BOC I'd ever heard -- I found out much later how little "BOC" it was. > > I'm afraid BOC has become a nostalgia act for me as well. It seems to me > that if you look at what they're doing live these days (er, its been about 3 > years since I last caught them), thats about what they want to be. It is, but that doesn't necessarily make it bad. I still wish they would continue to add some variety to the set, especially focussing more on some new material, but it's hard to get tired of hearing those "Cult Classics"... > Sorry to say, I didn't care for HF much at all. With the exception of 1 > song, I find the lyrics hackneyed, awkward and cliche` and the music, while > *OK* is largely not what I consider BOC style, its more like they're trying > to emulate the younger bands out there that have replaced them. If it wasn't > for the familiar voices of EB & BD, I think I'd not even recognize it as BOC > (well, except that BD's guitar work is always distinctive and recognizable). I like it. Maybe I just waited in anticipation for so long that ANY new BOC would be appreciated by me. Still, while it will never be "Secret Treaties, Part II", there's some good stuff on there - the thing has a bit too many Buck songs on it (I still say they should have put the 2 "Bad Channels" songs, plus a live version of "Wings of Mercury" on there) to sound like "classic BOC" - gives it more of a "Flat Out, Part II" feel. Still, I guess I didn't expect a band who's last real studio album (i.e., Club Ninja, not Imaginos) was 12 years previous to sound a particular way. And "See You in Black" is a kick-ass way to start an album... ;-) Will be interesting to see what their next album will sound like... John From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Aug 29 08:29:11 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:29:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Ticketmaster & Visa In-Reply-To: <000e01c01177$8a73d000$10a408d4@d8o7x0> Message-ID: I've been ordering stuff over the net for years and never had a real hassle. But you could always phone the box office and give them your card details verbally, if you trust that. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Filip Vanhuyse Sent: 29 August 2000 06:09 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW:Ticketmaster & Visa Hello, Can anyone tell if it's safe to order on the website from Ticketmaster with Visa? Never done that before. I'm probably asking a stupid question. greetings filip hawknut From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Aug 29 08:31:50 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:31:50 -0400 Subject: BOC: X-Brothers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nick wrote: > I finally got my hands on a copy of X-Brothers -- > "Solid Citizens". . . and I really, really like it. > Maybe I'm just way off base here, but there's some > intangible, classic BOC-ish quality that I'm hearing in > these songs that really makes me think Joe was a much > bigger part of the overall Cult sound than I'd > realized. I agree with you there. Stuff like "Hot Time in Hell" especially. I wish they performed that song a little heavier though. Less keys and more guitar. I'm not thrilled with the ballads on the CD. I think if they were BOC tunes, they'd have been down toward the bottom of the list with "Eyes on Fire" ;-) >[...] "Solid Citizens" in many ways felt more like > a BOC album than "Heaven Forbid" or any of the Brain > Surgeons stuff. I don't think I would ever mistake it for a BOC release if I just heard it in passing, but there is that vibe. If Joe asked Al and Buck to guest on the next X-Bros. CD, then we might have the closest thing to a new classic BOC album. I think guesting is great, but I'd rather not have a permanent BOC reunion if it kept Al, Joe, Buck, and 3OC from making their own unique music. Not that I'd begrudge one reunion CD and tour, of course. ;-) Brian From AgentOF at AOL.COM Tue Aug 29 08:55:24 2000 From: AgentOF at AOL.COM (Chuck Saden) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:55:24 EDT Subject: BOC: X-Brothers Message-ID: << I agree with you there. Stuff like "Hot Time in Hell" especially. I wish they performed that song a little heavier though. >> I put Solid Citizens in the player with Buck in the car in San Antonio. Buck asked if Joe was singing "Hot Tub In Hell" :-) chuck From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Aug 29 09:44:40 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:44:40 -0400 Subject: HW:Ticketmaster & Visa In-Reply-To: <200008291117.HAA04683@syr.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Ted Jackson jr. wrote: => On 29 Aug 00, at 7:09, Filip Vanhuyse wrote: => => > Hello, => > => > Can anyone tell if it's safe to order on the website => > from Ticketmaster with Visa? => > Never done that before. => > I'm probably asking a stupid question. => => There is one safe way to go with this: use a debit card with just => enough money in the account to cover the bill... Actually, I've heard that debit cards are the absolutely *least safe* way to buy "with plastic." They have little or none of the protections that come with credit cards (refusing charges; dispute resolution; etc.), and are a direct line to your bank account. In fact, that's the reason I ditched my debit card in favour of a credit card. I've heard some people advise getting a separate credit card just for online and mail-order purchases, one with a low credit limit to prevent third-party abuse. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Aug 29 09:54:22 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:54:22 -0400 Subject: BOC: X-Brothers In-Reply-To: <57.a87f55f.26dd0cbc@aol.com> Message-ID: > << I agree with you there. Stuff like "Hot Time in Hell" especially. I wish > they performed that song a little heavier though. >> > > I put Solid Citizens in the player with Buck in the car in San Antonio. Buck > asked if Joe was singing "Hot Tub In Hell" :-) > > chuck Great. Now every time I hear it I'll think he's saying that! Kind of like that hit song from Rusted Root, "Simian the Whale" (a.k.a. Send Me On My Way) Brian Sing along: "Simian the whale. (Oh my whale.) Simian *my* whale..." From tclark at PETRONET.NET Tue Aug 29 09:59:18 2000 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:59:18 -0500 Subject: HW:Airfares to London from the U.S. Message-ID: Anyone going to the show from the U.S.. I'm in the process of shopping for a cheap airfare. Not worried about the New Orleans leg, as it would stopover at Atlanta or JFK. The cheapest flight I have found so far is $578.00 round trip through cheaptickets.com. Any suggestions or findings would be greatly appreciated (I think we can all use this as a forum to exchange what has been found)...... From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 29 10:02:30 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:02:30 EDT Subject: HW:Ticketmaster & Visa In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 29 Aug 00, at 9:44, Paul Mather wrote: > > Actually, I've heard that debit cards are the absolutely *least safe* > way to buy "with plastic." They have little or none of the > protections that come with credit cards (refusing charges; dispute > resolution; etc.), I'm not sure how using a debit card would be a problem for dispute resolution. There is still a transaction record. You mean getting your money back? Could be a problem there, I guess... and are a direct line to your bank account. The way to do it [or so I'm told by a friend who does a lot of internet buying] is to have an account just for this purpose, not tied to your regular bank account. Then maintain a balance just for purchasing. When inactive, keep just a couple of dollars in the account [obviously, some banks won't like this and will likely charge you a service fee]. When you want to use the card for purchases, simply find out what the cost is, and put the appropriate amount in the account... > In fact, that's the reason I ditched my debit card in favour of a > credit card. > To be honest, I never use my debit card for internet buying, but the original poster was averse to using a credit card... > I've heard some people advise getting a separate credit card just for > online and mail-order purchases, one with a low credit limit to > prevent third-party abuse. Laws vary, but in most states, you're liable only for the first 50 dollars of fraudulent use, so the credit limit approach isn't necessary. But make sure you know the local laws! > theo From nick at NETPHD.NET Tue Aug 29 10:08:04 2000 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 10:08:04 -0400 Subject: BOC: X-Brothers Message-ID: I guess a "BOC vibe" is a pretty good way to describe the feeling I got off Solid Citizens. And while I liked Heaven Forbid, I don't really think it has very much of that "vibe". With the exception of the first two tracks, it really doesn't feel -- lyrically or musically -- like BOC as I've come to know them. And while some may say that even SIYB is hackneyed, I found it delicious. "I'd like to see you in black/It'd make me feel like your husband's dead" is no more or less corny than "I'd like to do it to your daughter on a dirt road". As for Brain Surgeons, I think they're quite a departure from BOC, but in mostly good ways. When Eponymous came out, I was hoping for BOC Jr., but was pleasantly surprised to find that Al wanted us to "work a little harder", if you will. Yes, I agree that "Hot Time In Hell" is a cult-ish tune, but the one that really put me in mind of classic BOC is "Dream Machine". Damn, I can't get enough of that song! --Nick From clemens at TRAIL.COM Tue Aug 29 10:33:02 2000 From: clemens at TRAIL.COM (Clemens & Associates Inc) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:33:02 -0600 Subject: HW:Airfares to London from the U.S. Message-ID: try SkyAuction.com that's what I'm gonna do Mark L (the other) ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Clark To: Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 7:59 AM Subject: Re: HW:Airfares to London from the U.S. > Anyone going to the show from the U.S.. I'm in the process of shopping for > a cheap airfare. Not worried about the New Orleans leg, as it would > stopover at Atlanta or JFK. The cheapest flight I have found so far is > $578.00 round trip through cheaptickets.com. > > Any suggestions or findings would be greatly appreciated (I think we can all > use this as a forum to exchange what has been found)...... > From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Aug 29 11:00:48 2000 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:00:48 +0200 Subject: HW Brixton New News Attn: CAPT Brock, your crew is calling Message-ID: Nick Lee schrieb: > PS Got Acid Jam 2 this week - Deep Space Divers is superb, how about having > the Frond doing that at Brixton then? Having Mr Shaw around for later > wouldn't go amiss either. Ade Shaw will definitely be in Brixton! And he will be playing bass with HW! This is information 100 % proved by Mr. Shaw himself. Bevis Frond will play somewhere in London in November and Terrastock 4 in Seattle that same month. After that there will be a longer pause for the Frond as a live band. Andreas From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Tue Aug 29 11:01:40 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 08:01:40 -0700 Subject: BOC: X-Brothers Message-ID: > while some may say that even SIYB is hackneyed, I found > it delicious. "I'd like to see you in black/It'd make > me feel like your husband's dead" is no more or less > corny than "I'd like to do it to your daughter on a > dirt road". True, if you just pluck the two single lines from their respective songs. However, taken in context, there is no comparison. > > As for Brain Surgeons, I think they're quite a > departure from BOC, but in mostly good ways. When > Eponymous came out, I was hoping for BOC Jr., but was > pleasantly surprised to find that Al wanted us to "work > a little harder", if you will. Can anyone tell me this.. I bought Eponymous a few years ago and didn't care for it. (Sorry Al :) It had a few bright spots but not enough to earn it a spot on my frequently played list. Part of the problem is my own hang up about female vocalists - I just don't enjoy them, however talented they may be. I can't explain why.. I'm not sure myself! So from what I told you here, would it be worth my time to seek out more Brain Surgeon CD's? Or is Eponymous pretty representative of all BS music? Its one of those things where I *want* to like it, feel like I *should* like it (similar to my feelings about Hawkwind) but I just don't. > Yes, I agree that "Hot Time In Hell" is a cult-ish > tune, but the one that really put me in mind of classic > BOC is "Dream Machine". Damn, I can't get enough of > that song! I'll have to look for an X-Bros cd... JB From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Aug 29 11:41:21 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 11:41:21 -0400 Subject: HW:Ticketmaster & Visa In-Reply-To: <200008291403.KAA07521@syr.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Ted Jackson jr. wrote: => I'm not sure how using a debit card would be a problem for dispute => resolution. There is still a transaction record. You mean getting your => money back? Could be a problem there, I guess... Yeah, I meant getting your money back. With a credit card, you can dispute the bill, and even decline payment if you believe the goods were not of advertised quality, or the company sent you duff merchandise and were being ornery about it. You can get the credit card company to go to bat for you in resolving problems like that. With a debit card, you are at an instant disadvantage because the company debits your account first. They *have* your money, and so getting it back is harder than not paying it in the first place, should problems arise. => The way to do it [or so I'm told by a friend who does a lot of internet => buying] is to have an account just for this purpose, not tied to your => regular bank account. Then maintain a balance just for purchasing. => When inactive, keep just a couple of dollars in the account => [obviously, some banks won't like this and will likely charge you a => service fee]. When you want to use the card for purchases, simply => find out what the cost is, and put the appropriate amount in the => account... I had a lot of hassle in the US finding a no-annual-fee debit card. The sad thing is that by the time I found a bank that would do one without having me maintain a ridiculous minimum balance to avoid a monthly fee, I decided to switch to using a credit card instead. :-) => To be honest, I never use my debit card for internet buying, but the => original poster was averse to using a credit card... But, IMHO, a debit card is a worse option. => Laws vary, but in most states, you're liable only for the first 50 dollars => of fraudulent use, so the credit limit approach isn't necessary. But => make sure you know the local laws! I'm not sure, but it may be the first $50 of each transaction. (I'd have to read the fine print.) So, a low credit limit would still protect you from someone going on a spending spree with your card number and buying several things in different places. Personally, I like paying with cheque when ordering from Cellsum, because then you get Al's autograph when you get your cheques back from the bank. ;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM Tue Aug 29 12:18:13 2000 From: mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM (Matthew Braun) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 11:18:13 CDT Subject: BOC: Re: Songs that Set the Hook In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 29 Aug 2000 00:18:10 CDT." <200008290418.AAA18325@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Joseph Brooks writes: >Sorry to say, I didn't care for HF much at all. With the exception of 1 >song, I find the lyrics hackneyed, awkward and cliche` and the music, ... Likewise. I'm not a fan of Mr. Shirley's lyrics, either. (So what's the exception?) Harvest Moon is the one that I play the most... m@ From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Tue Aug 29 12:21:40 2000 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:21:40 +0100 Subject: BOC: BOC-L tape swap 2000 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:33:28 BST." <200008181533.QAA20496@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: With a BOC: header for the boccies... OK, so I've been too busy to reply to questions on this till now. The BOC-L tape swap has been around a couple of years. Anybody who wants to participate makes up a compilation tape of music they feel they need to share with the world at large. No real restiction beyond the fact that including Hawkwind of BOC material is rather pointless! Anything else goes. Once in the tape swap, you'll get another list member's address to post the tape to. Send you tape off; at the same time you'll get one to listen to. After a couple of weeks, forward that one on to the person 'downstream' to you. Theoretically (though it never happens!) you'll get to hear all the tapes in the loop. Interested ? Send email to: bart at aeolians.bt.co.uk with your name your email address your surface address cheers Tim From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Aug 29 12:21:54 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:21:54 -0400 Subject: BOC: X-Brothers Message-ID: >Yes, I agree that "Hot Time In Hell" is a cult-ish >tune, but the one that really put me in mind of classic >BOC is "Dream Machine". Damn, I can't get enough of >that song! I agree, that one is my favorite, the one I play the most. slip it onto the middle of a tape of Spectres.... see how nicely it fits? "Left behind by the latest trends... eating fried chicken with his regicidal friends... - "Porcelain Monkey" by Warren Zevon =============== Andrew Apold From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Aug 29 12:21:53 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 12:21:53 -0400 Subject: HW:Ticketmaster & Visa Message-ID: At 07:17 AM 8/29/2000 EDT, Ted Jackson jr. wrote: >On 29 Aug 00, at 7:09, Filip Vanhuyse wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Can anyone tell if it's safe to order on the website >> from Ticketmaster with Visa? >> Never done that before. >> I'm probably asking a stupid question. > >There is one safe way to go with this: use a debit card with just >enough money in the account to cover the bill... A number of credit cards offer internet guarantees, something to the tune of no more than $50 lost due to internet fraud or theft... I think one was even offering no loss... As far as the debit, yes, that protects you now, but someone might wait and use it later when you had more cash on it... "Left behind by the latest trends... eating fried chicken with his regicidal friends... - "Porcelain Monkey" by Warren Zevon =============== Andrew Apold From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Tue Aug 29 12:24:53 2000 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:24:53 +0100 Subject: HW: BOC-L Tape Swap 2000 Message-ID: With a HW: header for the hawksters... OK, so I've been too busy to reply to questions on this till now. The BOC-L tape swap has been around a couple of years. Anybody who wants to participate makes up a compilation tape of music they feel they need to share with the world at large. No real restiction beyond the fact that including Hawkwind of BOC material is rather pointless. Anything else goes. Once in the tape swap, you'll get another list member's address to post the tape to. Send you tape off; at the same time you'll get one to listen to. After a couple of weeks, forward that one on to the person 'downstream' to you. Theoretically (though it never happens!) you'll get to hear all the tapes in the loop. Interested ? Send email to: bart at aeolians.bt.co.uk with your name your email address your surface address cheers Tim From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Tue Aug 29 12:49:12 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 09:49:12 -0700 Subject: Songs that Set the Hook Message-ID: > Joseph Brooks writes: > >Sorry to say, I didn't care for HF much at all. With the > exception of 1 > >song, I find the lyrics hackneyed, awkward and cliche` and > the music, ... > > Likewise. I'm not a fan of Mr. Shirley's lyrics, either. > (So what's the exception?) Harvest Moon is the one that I > play the most... > > m@ Ditto JB From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Aug 29 14:14:30 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 14:14:30 -0400 Subject: BOC: Me262 pic Message-ID: This picture looks very familiar.... I would send it, but I'm afraid the size might cause some problems. So just go to the Breitling Web site, http://www.breitling.com then click on Milestones and 1942. Brian From nick at NETPHD.NET Tue Aug 29 15:44:13 2000 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 15:44:13 -0400 Subject: Songs that Set the Hook In-Reply-To: <4973895A322CD411A6B000A0C96E9611207377@C2> Message-ID: Quoting Joseph Brooks : > > Joseph Brooks writes: > > >Sorry to say, I didn't care for HF much at all. With the > > exception of 1 > > >song, I find the lyrics hackneyed, awkward and cliche` and > > the music, ... > > > > Likewise. I'm not a fan of Mr. Shirley's lyrics, either. > > (So what's the exception?) Harvest Moon is the one that I > > play the most... > > > > m@ > > Ditto > > JB > I'll third this motion, but I still think SYIB is good. It's not perfect, but it's head and shoulders above Shirley's other contributions. I think a lot of BOC fans -- myself included here -- are in denial about how inadequate HF is as a Blue Oyster Cult album. But we can hardly be blamed for wanting to like it!!! --Nick From multiverse at ONEBOX.COM Tue Aug 29 16:13:25 2000 From: multiverse at ONEBOX.COM (Berry Sizemore AKA Jhary-a-Conel) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 13:13:25 -0700 Subject: News, Announcements, and Other Random Stuff Message-ID: Greetings everyone! I wanted to let everyone know that I have finally created something useful! Over the years, I've recieved help from a number of people, people who love Michael Moorcock's work as much as I do, with news, images, text, files and nearly every bit of stuff one can conceive of. The problem has been that I haven't had the time to spend an hour to make a web page for each bit of information. I've always felt bad about that. The information you get from me is seldom timely and is usually missing some important visual component. I solved that problem. http://www.multiverse.org/news I pledge to keep all news tidbits that I get in the future will be posted in a timely manner to this part of the website. I've asked John Davey to feel free to use News, Announcements, and Other Random Stuff for announcements about Nomads announcements, althought I believe he'll probably use the mailing list as his primary announcement means. The News section of multiverse.org is merely a supplement to what you can get via nearly every other electronic medium and as a quick way for me to info to you. Also, it'll function as an archive of uncategorizable tidbits that seem to defy my ability to build a web page. As usual, I beg your opionion on this design. Does it get the information to you in a readable format? Did it load slow? How can I improve it? As always Champion, Jhary-a-Conel (253) 503-2230 x5541 ICQ: 1400818 multiverse at onebox.com http://www.multiverse.org/ "It seems very pretty," she said when she had finished it, "but it's rather hard to understand!" (You see she didn't like to confess, even to herself, that she couldn't make it out at all.) "Somehow it seems to fill my head with ideas-only I don't exactly know what they are!" - Lewis Carroll __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com From blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Tue Aug 29 17:01:52 2000 From: blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (Gordon Reid) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:01:52 -0400 Subject: HW Brixton New News Attn: CAPT Brock, your crew is calling Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:00:48 +0200, Andreas Stuewe wrote: >Nick Lee schrieb: >> PS Got Acid Jam 2 this week - Deep Space Divers is superb, how about having >> the Frond doing that at Brixton then? Having Mr Shaw around for later >> wouldn't go amiss either. > >Ade Shaw will definitely be in Brixton! And he will be playing bass with HW! > >This is information 100 % proved by Mr. Shaw himself. > >Bevis Frond will play somewhere in London in November and Terrastock 4 in >Seattle that same month. After that there will be a longer pause for the Frond >as a live band. > >Andreas Looks like there's going to be a battle of the bass players then, to you Ade Shaw said he will be there, to me Alan Davey said himself & Ron Tree will be there & then the word on the net is Lemmy is going to be there. What we need is an official line-up from the Hawkwind camp. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Aug 29 17:36:29 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 17:36:29 EDT Subject: OFF: are 'friends' electric? Message-ID: http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/08/29/aoliza.idg/index.html From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Tue Aug 29 18:31:37 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 18:31:37 -0400 Subject: Gig: Freedomriders MC, 30th annual Bike Day Weekend: (Biker event) Message-ID: Hello, this is a special gig announcement: SLOTERDIJK will perform at the Freedomriders MC, 30th annual Bike Day Weekend; September 30th between 4:00 PM, and 6:00PM The event begins on September 29th and runs through October 4th: Festivities take place at the clubhouse grounds in Red Hill PA (Montgomery County) see below. $30.00 admission entitles you to the following perks for the entire event: Camping ( space available for tents, RV's etc), Road Tour on Saturday, Live music all afternoon and evening on Saturday, door prizes, vendors, Free Beverages, Free Breakfast and Coffee, Bike Show, games, contests, showers, and lots of fun. Ride on the Saturday Run!!! This event is open to the public, and you don't have to be a rider to attend. For complete directions and information visit the Freedomriders MC website at: http://www.Freedomridersmc.com or drop the club an e-mail at: Freedomridersmc at aol.com Also you can bring your own beverages as well: Hope to see and meet some of you there, as Sloterdijk will be there for the entire weekend!!! http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Tue Aug 29 19:38:02 2000 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 19:38:02 EDT Subject: HW: Ticketmaster & Visa Message-ID: In a message dated 8/29/00 7:28:32 AM US Eastern Standard Time, Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: << I've been ordering stuff over the net for years and never had a real hassle. But you could always phone the box office and give them your card details verbally, if you trust that. >> I've been ordering CDs off the net, w/credit card, and only had one semi hassle. No false charges were made on mine, so I guess I lucked out. But, if some hacker wants to get your info badly enough, or you just happen to have some bad luck, you'll get ripped-off. They could get the info when you transmit it to the site, or they could break into the card company's, or the site's files and get it that way. When you make on-line purchases w/credit card, you can always check with your card provider to see what's being charged to your account. There's no way to be 100% safe, except to not have a card. Joe Loehr From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Tue Aug 29 19:47:45 2000 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 19:47:45 EDT Subject: BOC: Me262 pic Message-ID: In a message dated 8/29/00 1:13:50 PM US Eastern Standard Time, blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM writes: << This picture looks very familiar... >> Oooohhh . . . "Bombers at 12 O'clock High . . ." Joe From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Aug 30 03:41:59 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 08:41:59 +0100 Subject: OFF: Pedantry Message-ID: > Darn ! > > Doesn't matter how pedantic you get with yourself, some > bugger can always do better ! ;-) > > Anyways, in the event none of the list members appeared so > a fun night for all was missed by some, nyah nyah :)) > > Subjectively and objectively, but non-pedantically yours > > Mark (Hasbeen) > (Who plans to get to Brixton before everybody and gain a > position of maximum proximity to either bar.) > :-) See you there! Cheers, Rich. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed Aug 30 09:07:44 2000 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:07:44 -0400 Subject: BOC: X-Brothers, Heaven Forbid, Brain Surgeons Message-ID: > I think guesting is great, but I'd rather not have a permanent BOC reunion > if it kept Al, Joe, Buck, and 3OC from making their own unique music. Not > that I'd begrudge one reunion CD and tour, of course. ;-) Yes, no BOC fan would complain about seeing the original 5 together again for a few shows - but very few would probably want them to be back together permanently - the musical output is greater for the most part now with the various entities putting out their own stuff. I mean, how much of the 5 (6 if you count PoW as 2 discs) tBS CDs would have been put out on a BOC record? Maybe half a CD's worth? And, while the real intent of the effort is to honor a dearly-departed friend, many of us are very interested in the upcoming Helen Wheels tribute CD - which reunited Buck, Al, and Joe. I wish they could have met under other circumstances though... > > << I agree with you there. Stuff like "Hot Time in Hell" especially. I wish > > they performed that song a little heavier though. >> > > > > I put Solid Citizens in the player with Buck in the car in San Antonio. Buck > > asked if Joe was singing "Hot Tub In Hell" :-) > > Great. Now every time I hear it I'll think he's saying that! Kind of like Kind of like the way BOC fans hear K.C. and the Sunshine Band when listening to "Damaged" of HF (I'm Damaged - uh huh, uh huh - and Like It - uh huh, uh huh...) ;-) > > I guess a "BOC vibe" is a pretty good way to describe > the feeling I got off Solid Citizens. And while I > liked Heaven Forbid, I don't really think it has very > much of that "vibe". With the exception of the first > two tracks, it really doesn't feel -- lyrically or > musically -- like BOC as I've come to know them. Well, the BOC that we had come to know hadn't put out a complete studio album in over 10 years, and had gone through 3 new bassplayers (Rogers, Smith, Miranda) and 6 drummers (Wilcox, Riddle, Burgi, Miceli, O'Reily, Rondinelli). It isn't a stretch to say that it's a different band than it was 20 years ago. Actually, I think much of the "vibe" on HF (at least on the heavier tunes) sounds very much like the current line-up -- it just doesn't sound much like "classic BOC". > And > while some may say that even SIYB is hackneyed, I found > it delicious. "I'd like to see you in black/It'd make > me feel like your husband's dead" is no more or less > corny than "I'd like to do it to your daughter on a > dirt road". Well, what I liked most about SYIB (as a first single and an album opener), and the somewhat cheezy cover-art is that there appeared to be a sense of daring with the band - a sense that they were going to come out as a hard-hitting rock/metal act - not at all like, oh, say *Club Ninja*. It made a statement that BOC is back. The general public's response ultimately may have been "who cares?", but I still liked the agressive move. As a fan waiting for a new album for 10 years, it resonated with ME. > Can anyone tell me this.. I bought Eponymous a few years ago and didn't care > for it. (Sorry Al :) It had a few bright spots but not enough to earn it a > spot on my frequently played list. Part of the problem is my own hang up > about female vocalists - I just don't enjoy them, however talented they may > be. I can't explain why.. I'm not sure myself! So from what I told you here, > would it be worth my time to seek out more Brain Surgeon CD's? Or is > Eponymous pretty representative of all BS music? Well, maybe Al should repost Steve Swann's review of *Eponymous*... ;-) I like *Eponymous*, but would say that it is not as hard-hitting and instrumentally rich (mix-wise) as the other tBS albums. It might also be the most stylistically diverse (up until perhaps *Piece of Work* - more on that in a minute) - *Eponymous* was really a home-grown solo album by Albert - no, I really mean a "duo" album by Albert and Deb -- they recorded it in their living room, I believe, and did most of the instrumentation and production themselves. Of course, the biggest thing to remember when approaching this (or any) tBS release is that tBS does not equal BOC - they shared the same drummer, and that's about it. If you are familiar with the BOC fanclub newsletter, "Morning Final" - which among other things discusses the songs that various members brought to the various recording sessions - you know that Al wrote albums worth of material that BOC never recorded. Personally, I really enjoy female vocalists, so the fact that Al doesn't sing all tBS stuff doesn't bother me - some people like Deb's vocals, some don't. I don't think it's the case of her being a "bad" singer (far from it), but her delivery may not be for all. As for *Eponymous*, I like a lot of the material on there, but *Trepanation* is by far my favorite tBS album, followed by *Box of Hammers* - these 2 albums have a very heavy guitar sound, and sound much more like a "band" produced them (because, in fact, tBS became a real "band" after *Eponymous*, when they added Hilfiger, Bohovesky, and Hirschberg to the live sets). *Trepanation* is particularly heavy, while BoH has a bit more refined feel. *Malpractise* is sort of a mixed bag - all good, but it is a collection of various things - from the 3-track "Career of Christmas" tape that the band did a few years prior, to the the Hawkwind covers and the tunes from their "Pull the Plug" acoustic tape. *Piece of Work*, is their most recent, slickest, and most varied CD. A little something for everyone, and very well-done -- the "layers" of instrumentation are many, and the sound is great. You can check out my complete reviews on the various CDs at "The Post-Op" - http://members.aol.com/tbspostop > > > >Sorry to say, I didn't care for HF much at all. > With the > > > exception of 1 > > > >song, I find the lyrics hackneyed, awkward and > cliche` and > > > the music, ... > > > > > > Likewise. I'm not a fan of Mr. Shirley's lyrics, > either. > > > (So what's the exception?) Harvest Moon is the one > that I > > > play the most... > > > Uh, guess what? Jon Shirley didn't write the lyrics to "Harvest Moon". I guess that supports your arguments. > > I think a lot of BOC fans -- myself included here -- > are in denial about how inadequate HF is as a Blue > Oyster Cult album. But we can hardly be blamed for > wanting to like it!!! Maybe - especially if you are expecting "Secret Treaties - Part II". But it ain't exactly "Club Ninja - Part II" either... ;-) John From nick at NETPHD.NET Wed Aug 30 09:52:42 2000 From: nick at NETPHD.NET (Nick English) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 09:52:42 -0400 Subject: BOC: X-Brothers, Heaven Forbid, Brain Surgeons In-Reply-To: <39AD0718.E3086BBF@mitre.org> Message-ID: > > I think guesting is great, but I'd rather not have a permanent BOC > reunion > > if it kept Al, Joe, Buck, and 3OC from making their own unique music. Not > > that I'd begrudge one reunion CD and tour, of course. ;-) > > Yes, no BOC fan would complain about seeing the original 5 together > again for a few shows - but very few would probably want them to be back > together permanently - the musical output is greater for the most part > now with the various entities putting out their own stuff. Are you guys kidding??? I'd trade everything after Imaginos for one really heartfelt, kick-ass new studio by the original five members! ON the other hand, I don't really think I'd care all that much to see them just rehashing the old stuff. I'd still pay to see it, mind you. . . but I'd much rather see a full-on studio collaboration. > Kind of like the way BOC fans hear K.C. and the Sunshine Band when > listening to "Damaged" of HF (I'm Damaged - uh huh, uh huh - and Like It > - uh huh, uh huh...) ;-) Thanks alot, John. I used to like that song!!! > Well, what I liked most about SYIB (as a first single and an album > opener), and the somewhat cheezy cover-art is that there appeared to be > a sense of daring with the band - a sense that they were going to come > out as a hard-hitting rock/metal act - not at all like, oh, say *Club > Ninja*. I actually like the cover art on HF. The only thing I found cheezy about it is that the dude's face is a little too explicit. Otherwise, I think it's a pretty cool, PHantom of the Opera-ish concept. > Personally, I really enjoy female vocalists, so the fact that Al doesn't > sing all tBS stuff doesn't bother me - some people like Deb's vocals, > some don't. I don't think it's the case of her being a "bad" singer > (far from it), but her delivery may not be for all. I'd have to say I'm somewhere in the middle. I like her on some songs, don't on others. I have to say, though, that she really ruins one of my favorite TBS tunes, "A Kiss Is A Promise", with that ungodly wailing. That high-pitched, throat-ravaging scream just doesn't fit if you ask me. Otherwise I think it's a great tune. --Nick From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Wed Aug 30 11:25:41 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 08:25:41 -0700 Subject: BOC: X-Brothers, Heaven Forbid, Brain Surgeons Message-ID: > > I think guesting is great, but I'd rather not have a > permanent BOC reunion > > if it kept Al, Joe, Buck, and 3OC from making their own > unique music. Not > > that I'd begrudge one reunion CD and tour, of course. ;-) > > Yes, no BOC fan would complain about seeing the original 5 together > again for a few shows - but very few would probably want them > to be back > together permanently - the musical output is greater for the most part > now with the various entities putting out their own stuff. I > mean, how > much of the 5 (6 if you count PoW as 2 discs) tBS CDs would have been > put out on a BOC record? Maybe half a CD's worth? Are you nuts? Greater in qty. maybe but greater in quality? I've wanted them back together since they split. Jeez, for me, it'd be like a Beatles reunion! (with Lennon!) Of course, I would only want it if they could truely do it right and be succesful, which, frankly, I doubt. You just can't go back, in most cases. Similar to DL Roth getting back in Van Halen, it may turn out that the expectations of the fans would be so high that nothing they could do would be enough. Still, personal issues among band members aside, I would give much to see those 5 guys on stage again and have them create some new music. I have been listening to Imaginos lately. That CD is so good its almost mind boggling. I'd like to see them do something in that vein... Listen to the vibe on that album and go from there. Everytime I listen to Imaginos, I have this fantasy BOC on a stage in my mind, the hall is similar to the one pictured on the inner sleeve of OYFOOYK. Its storming outside... > > And, while the real intent of the effort is to honor a dearly-departed > friend, many of us are very interested in the upcoming Helen Wheels > tribute CD - which reunited Buck, Al, and Joe. I wish they could have > met under other circumstances though... Its a step in the right direction.. who knows what may result in the aftermath? > Actually, I think much of the "vibe" on HF (at > least on the heavier tunes) sounds very much like the current > line-up -- > it just doesn't sound much like "classic BOC". Very good point. But one that I find hard to accept.. Living in the past, I guess. > Well, what I liked most about SYIB (as a first single and an album > opener), and the somewhat cheezy cover-art is that there > appeared to be > a sense of daring with the band - a sense that they were going to come > out as a hard-hitting rock/metal act - not at all like, oh, say *Club > Ninja*. It made a statement that BOC is back. The general public's > response ultimately may have been "who cares?", but I still liked the > agressive move. As a fan waiting for a new album for 10 years, it > resonated with ME. I want the band to grow and evolve but it seemed to me that something was missing. Where was that quasi mystical wierdness that drew so many of us to BOC in the early days? Gone with Pearlman, the Bouchards and company, I guess. > > > Well, maybe Al should repost Steve Swann's review of > *Eponymous*... ;-) Of course, the > biggest thing > to remember when approaching this (or any) tBS release is > that tBS does > not equal BOC - they shared the same drummer, and that's about it. Yes and to quote what someone recently wrote to me, I was looking for BOC Jr. > > Personally, I really enjoy female vocalists, so the fact that > Al doesn't > sing all tBS stuff doesn't bother me - some people like Deb's vocals, > some don't. I don't think it's the case of her being a "bad" singer > (far from it), but her delivery may not be for all. No, my dislike is not because of her style, talent or delivery. I just can't get used to a female voice in my rock n' roll. Like I said, its my own little hang up. > As for *Eponymous*, I like a lot of the material on there, but > *Trepanation* is by far my favorite tBS album, followed by *Box of > Hammers* - these 2 albums have a very heavy guitar sound, and > sound much > more like a "band" produced them (because, in fact, tBS became a real > "band" after *Eponymous*, when they added Hilfiger, Bohovesky, and > Hirschberg to the live sets). *Trepanation* is particularly heavy, > while BoH has a bit more refined feel. Perhaps I will give one of those a shot. > > *Piece of Work*, is their most recent, slickest, and most > varied CD. A > little something for everyone, and very well-done -- the "layers" of > instrumentation are many, and the sound is great. Now that made my pointy little ears stand up! The "layered" effect is to me what makes Imaginos so great. > Uh, guess what? Jon Shirley didn't write the lyrics to > "Harvest Moon". > I guess that supports your arguments. I'm assuming that BD did? Its always been hard for me not to like any BD song. > > > > > I think a lot of BOC fans -- myself included here -- > > are in denial about how inadequate HF is as a Blue > > Oyster Cult album. But we can hardly be blamed for > > wanting to like it!!! > > Maybe - especially if you are expecting "Secret Treaties - Part II". > But it ain't exactly "Club Ninja - Part II" either... ;-) I think I've said this to the list before but, you've hit the nail on the head here. ST was, IMO, the band's best work period. They have never topped it. Everything that came after had to live up to it (for me anyway) and much of it failed to do so (most albums did have their moments but not consistantly enough). Imaginos was (would have been) the first album that lived up to ST and even surpassed it but then I learn that it wasn't even BOC (I was happier when I was ignorant of this..) but some mix bag band with BOC members thrown in for commercial's sake. (Insert Sam Kinneson style scream here). I really need to get over this.. I can only hope that BOC's next release improves upon HF. JB From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Wed Aug 30 11:38:11 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 08:38:11 -0700 Subject: off: Allen Woody (Gov't Mule) Message-ID: With great sadness... -=-=- By JOHN SWENSON Jazze.com Senior Editor NEW YORK-Allen Woody died in a Long Island hotel room last Saturday, a damn lousy place to check out. He was a great bassist who played with dynamism and rhythmic elasticity, as good a rock player texture-wise as anyone on the genre's history and a keen improvisor inspired by Charles Mingus, John Coltrane and Charlie Parker. He gave his sidekick, the virtuoso guitarist Warren Haynes, everything he could handle from a creative standpoint and everything he needed from the pivot point in the trio he and Haynes formed with drummer Matt Abts, Govt Mule. Woody and Haynes had it all - tremendous power from both sides of the plate and a touch as sure and delicate as a Luis Aparicio to Nellie Fox double play. Woody spent most of his career in the shadow of poseurs who couldn't bring the hammer down but always looked good in the video. He didn't care because the payoff was in the creative interplay, first with the Allman Brothers, then with Govt Mule. Though his albums are filed under rock in the record stores, he was also a great blues and jazz player, exploring modal improvisational realms and playing with Parkeresque dexterity. The band's fascination with jazz is reflected in its compositions "Kind of Bird," "Trane," "Dolphineus," "Thelonius Beck" and an epic cover of "Afro Blue." Parker himself would have been 80 today and wouldn't that have been something? Talk about great minds that could have made a difference over time. But even in death Parker looms over the musical landscape of the last 50 years, not just in the obvious ways, either. For example, his "Now's the Time" groove became the blueprint for the proto-rock & roll hit "The Hucklebuck," and John McLaughlin coined a fusion highlight by transposing Parker solos to electric guitar with the Mahavishnu Orchestra. They flocked to Marcus Garvey park Saturday and Tompkins Square park Sunday to pay tribute to Parker, and his memory was suitably invoked by a near-contemporary of Bird's, saxophonist James Moody, a venerable jazz player who did make it to Y2K. And while Moody has his own bag, he knows how to bring the voodoo down, closing out the memorial with Jon Faddis playing Dizzy Gillespie to his Bird on a phenomenal "Night in Tunisia." Columbia radio station WKCR is concluding its annual 3-day birthday broadcast memorializing Lester Young and Parker tonight at 9:30. During a section called "Bird South of the Border" aired earlier today a tape of Symphony Sid interviewing Parker about his work with Machito was played. Sid suggested that Bird was putting a more commercial spin on bop, and Bird replied, "Bop is just a term. It's all music." Parker knew better than anyone that musical creativity is about transcending categories, not building them. It's a message that Woody, and many other great musicians, have taken to heart. We're all the better for it, if we only take the time to really listen. JB From novadrive at HOME.COM Wed Aug 30 11:45:44 2000 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 08:45:44 -0700 Subject: HW: Ticketmaster & Visa Message-ID: But of course if someone really wanted your credit card number, all they would reality have to do is get a minimum-wage job at any store that takes credit cards (and even McDonalds does now) and save a receipt without too much trouble. I guess it's all up to your own personal tolerance for risk? Kevin Sommers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Loehr" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 4:38 PM Subject: Re: HW: Ticketmaster & Visa > In a message dated 8/29/00 7:28:32 AM US Eastern Standard Time, > Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > > << I've been ordering stuff over the net for years and never had a real > hassle. > But you could always phone the box office and give them your card details > verbally, if you trust that. > >> > I've been ordering CDs off the net, w/credit card, and only had one semi > hassle. No false charges were made on mine, so I guess I lucked out. > > But, if some hacker wants to get your info badly enough, or you just happen > to have some bad luck, you'll get ripped-off. They could get the info when > you transmit it to the site, or they could break into the card company's, or > the site's files and get it that way. > > When you make on-line purchases w/credit card, you can always check with your > card provider to see what's being charged to your account. There's no way to > be 100% safe, except to not have a card. > > Joe Loehr From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 30 11:45:21 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 11:45:21 EDT Subject: BOC: X-Brothers, Heaven Forbid, Brain Surgeons In-Reply-To: <4973895A322CD411A6B000A0C96E9611207379@C2> Message-ID: On 30 Aug 00, at 8:25, Joseph Brooks wrote: > Are you nuts? Greater in qty. maybe but greater in quality? I've > wanted them back together since they split. Jeez, for me, it'd be like > a Beatles reunion! (with Lennon!) Of course, I would only want it if > they could truely do it right and be succesful, which, frankly, I > doubt. You just can't go back, in most cases. I never bought the Sabbath Reunion disc. How is it? Doesn't it have a couple of new tunes? Do they compare to the old stuff? Similar to DL Roth > getting back in Van Halen, it may turn out that the expectations of > the fans would be so high that nothing they could do would be enough. > But EVH's guitar playing is what I listen for on a VH disc. Still, since he's become a sober artiste I understand the new stuff is awful. I never got around to buying VHIII... > Still, personal issues among band members aside, I would give much to > see those 5 guys on stage again and have them create some new music. > Amen to that! The current rhythm section are great players, Danny is arguable a better bass player than Joe [hey, it's my understanding that Joe was always a guitarist/keyboardist, and played bass for BOC to help the band get started. Anyone know the real story?] Still, I'd give anything to see the original lineup. The reason it won't happen? Sad to say, there probably isn't much interest in it. BOC squandered their fan base, and music has simply moved in other directions. Nobody's fault, really. And, though I hate saying it, Pearlman played a bigger role in the band than I'd care to admit... > I have been listening to Imaginos lately. That CD is so good its > almost mind boggling. I'd like to see them do something in that > vein... Listen to the vibe on that album and go from there. > But how much of Imaginos IS BOC? Isn't a lot of the playing done by outside players? Wasn't it released as a BOC album simply to assuage Columbia? theo From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Wed Aug 30 11:56:01 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 08:56:01 -0700 Subject: BOC: X-Brothers, Heaven Forbid, Brain Surgeons Message-ID: > I never bought the Sabbath Reunion disc. How is it? Doesn't it have > a couple of new tunes? Do they compare to the old stuff? Its actually quite good, much to my suprise. Ozzy is, well, Ozzy but the old boys still know how to lay it down, apparently. If you're an old Sabbath fan, I highly recommend it. (The new tunes are not worth the trouble, IMO, but its just one or two and the rest of the material is very good...) > > > I have been listening to Imaginos lately. That CD is so good its > > almost mind boggling. I'd like to see them do something in that > > vein... Listen to the vibe on that album and go from there. > > > But how much of Imaginos IS BOC? Isn't a lot of the playing done > by outside players? Wasn't it released as a BOC album simply to > assuage Columbia? Yes, much to my dismay.. read down in my last post where I mention this.. JB From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Aug 30 13:16:30 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 18:16:30 +0100 Subject: HW: So Alan's back! In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.0.20000828184259.00ae9a80@post.strato.de> Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > Any ideas, what will happen to Ron now? Will he return to the > "only-front-man"-role, or will he leave the band (if he hasn't already done > it - it was relatively quiet about him the last few months)? I've said it before, but I think Ron's had a rough run of it - as frontman he was always being compared to Calvert, but what with Bob being dead no-one could clamour for him to rejoin. Since he picked up the bass though it seems to me that all the clamour has been for the reunion gigs and Lemmy Lemmy Lemmy. When I saw them on the Love in Space tour Ron was being given the whole stage. Last couple of gigs I've seen, though, Dave has been a lot more active and Ron's quite often not got a word in edgeways. Watching him trying to out-weird Nik at Croydon was also pretty painful. I quite like Ron's presence in the band, but he does seem to be in a threatened position. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he'd got tired of it. He seems to have a less easy-going attitude than the older members and I could see him getting fed up with not being given the space to make an impact. And to be honest, if Alan's rejoining, the impact is all that Ron can contribute. Still, if Alan is back in that's got to be a good thing. When I saw Bedouin in Cambridge a while back he was saying that he'd quit becuase the band never wanted to _do_ anything. I can only hope that if he's coming back they're making some attempt to remedy that :-) Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | ======================================================================| | "Zeron Gamma Two continuum entropy control parameters - AFFIRMATIVE!" | From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Wed Aug 30 14:09:37 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 14:09:37 -0400 Subject: BOC: X-Brothers, Heaven Forbid, Brain Surgeons In-Reply-To: <200008301545.LAA28885@syr.edu> Message-ID: >But how much of Imaginos IS BOC? Isn't a lot of the playing done >by outside players? Wasn't it released as a BOC album simply to >assuage Columbia? > >theo > Super simpleified recap time: Froim what i remember, Immaginos started out as an Albert Bouchard solo projectas part 1 of a trilogy based around the activity of the main dude in the story inviloving aliens and human history and fun like that (giant wodges of stuff about it are now in teh FAQ from when that mini-theseis on the Imaginos album was done by a former BOCL'er... wowo that was a while back)! Musically, most of the band was not Blue Oyster cult, Buck eric etc were brought in b by Pearlman and Columbia to overdub vox in some cases and put in solos in others.... a longer while back I remember asking who the guitar orchestra was on each track and it might have been FAQed bu i know satriani was brought in to do Seige and INvestiture, and Riobbeie Kreiger did the "BOC" song solo. The basic band was not BOC on the album... though who,i am not 100 sure about: Jack rigg was guitar/ Albert (everything maybe even kitchen sink :)) Tommy m. keyborads... .and i dont remember who else. Most are listed in the liner notes. Some players were not included in the final roster as appeared on LP sleeve fun. It was released as a BOC album in order to make Columbia happy in the end... I think the coolest thing in the whole wide world would be to pool a lot of money together and on one night only, have the Actual Imaginos Band come together and do a multimedia lightshow/rock song extravaganza performing the entire Part 1 of Imaginos as was intended by its originators.... by the way Albert if i remmber correctly got associate producer credit or somesuch in recognition of the fact he did put in a boatload of his own muscle and sweat behind the LP. Pearlman was in charge when Albert was no lionger in the loop. (i think). For now, remember "I may be wrong, but i wont be wrong always" Jason (now i fyou know who performed that song, brownie points! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "And philosophy is wont, in fact, not infrequently, to convert itself into a kind of art of spiritual pimping.And sometimes into an opiate for lulling sorrows to sleep." - Unamuno, _Tragic Sense of Life_ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 30 14:01:59 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 19:01:59 +0100 Subject: Mesage from Doug Walker via Andy G'b Message-ID: Doug from Alien Planetscapes e.mailed me and wants this message passing on....... ----------------------------- Andy...I'm quite sick, have developed GASTRONEUROPATHY...this means that due to having diabetes 36 years, it has killed some of the nerve endings in my stomach, so the stomach doesn't get cues to move food along to the small intestine! It has most unpleasant and dangerous effects such as nausea, multiple vomiting, diarreah, extreme swings in bloodsugar, abdominal cramps like you wouldn't believe! In severe cases, surgery is often the only answer;I don't have it this bad yet, but it kept AP from appearing at SD 2000(I did play with Escapade, who opened for HARVEY BAINBRIDGE here...haven't seen him in 10 years, we had a great time together. The upshot is that I will not appear at any live venues for the next month in an attempt to recover. I do have some things coming out this fall(CDs w/AMBIBAT, "OLD FRIENDS TRIO")and Rich Orlando and I recorded the new AP CD this past weekend. The sound this time out is 73-75 TD meets HELDON from the same period Far as the 98 SD set, what we dsent you was actually from Bob Lennon's video! I'm getting my hands on the board copies on SD 99, and a better 2trk mix of 98. I do think we can get some sort of noise reduced mix on the copy that produced your demo, let me work on it! I'm trying to find a CD copy of Arthur Brown's Journey LP...if you've got it in stock ("we haven't"), Thanks for your patience, and let AP European fans know that despite these ailments(had heart problem 6/11/00, congestive heart failiure, was in hospital 5 days!) we will be back on the scene in 2001 Doug PS are you going to the HW reunion? If so, pls. give my regards to all involved, if they come here for it I'll get off my sickbed to be there! D -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lansford at VNET.NET Wed Aug 30 17:29:09 2000 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 17:29:09 -0400 Subject: BOC: X-Brothers, Heaven Forbid, Brain Surgeons In-Reply-To: <39AD0718.E3086BBF@mitre.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, John A. Swartz wrote: >Well, maybe Al should repost Steve Swann's review of *Eponymous*... ;-) IIRC, it went: It's funky, it's rappin', it sucks. [snip] >As for *Eponymous*, I like a lot of the material on there, but >*Trepanation* is by far my favorite tBS album, followed by *Box of >Hammers* - these 2 albums have a very heavy guitar sound, and sound much >more like a "band" produced them (because, in fact, tBS became a real >"band" after *Eponymous*, when they added Hilfiger, Bohovesky, and >Hirschberg to the live sets). *Trepanation* is particularly heavy, >while BoH has a bit more refined feel. For me, Trepanation then Piece of Work. Hmm. Now I have to go listen to both back-to-back to figure out why. Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 30 18:27:58 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 23:27:58 +0100 Subject: Space-rock at Stourbridge Message-ID: Got the flyers for the Rock Cafe 200 gig at Stourbridge, West Midlands, today and I quote: HAWKWIND CONVENTION Sat Sept 30th 2.00pm-Late FEATURING Nik Turner Alan Davey Harvey Bainbridge Danny Thompson Plus Special guests t.b.c WITH SUPPORT FROM BEDOUIN + A solo Set In The Afternoon From Harvey Plus Hawkwind disco and quiz Tel:01382 390918 / 01384 833556 Tickets: All day ?10 Evening After 7.30 ?7 ----------------------------------------- We'll be there with some kind of stand selling Hawkwstuff/ Dead Earnest label , so hope to see some of you there. Andy Garibaldi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Wed Aug 30 19:04:41 2000 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 00:04:41 +0100 Subject: HW: So Alan's back! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yeh....sure Ron did make an impact as far as stage presence is concerned (particulary on the 'Love in Space'Tour. But having seen Bob Calvert with HW a number of times in the 70's,there was no comparison as far as Ron is concerned. For a start.....Rons vocal deliverance on many HW songs is pretty bad ....( I didn't like his rather strangulated shrieking style which made it virtually impossible to make out any words). I thought Calverts vocal tones were a lot more versatile and he had a way of delivering the words in perfect sync with what the rest of the band were playing. This is all quite surprising when you consider the fact that Bob was the more 'unstable character' of the two. For a while I was prepared to give Ron Tree the benefit of the doubt........Until...that is......I saw HW at Croydon at the end of their mini tour last year. I really thought he spoilt it! I did notice that near the end,Dave Brock wandered off during the middle of a number and stood on a platform at the back of Chadwicks drums with his arms folded, observing what was going on,on the stage below him. I wondered what he was thinking while Ron was prancing and shrieking around the stage? As for Alan Davey?......That guys HW through and through,and I'm really glad he's back. Oh!.....A question for the older HW fans on this discussion list. ANDY DUNKLEY?????? What did happen to him? Will he re-surface as the 'everpresent' resident DJ at the Brixton Reunion? Regards Melvyn From prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM Wed Aug 30 15:12:11 2000 From: prabbit at GOWEBWAY.COM (Sara Zaza) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 19:12:11 -0000 Subject: HW:Airfares to London from the U.S. Message-ID: I booked through cheaptickets.com and it was only $430.00 including taxes but I'm flying out of Wash DC so maybe it was cheaper because of that. I also made inquiries through 2 different travel agents that were recommended by co-workers that always seemed to get really good rates whenever they flew and both quoted me around $525 including taxes, so I went with cheaptickets. This was done last Friday. John Stanton From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Wed Aug 30 19:49:31 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 19:49:31 -0400 Subject: BOC: X-Brothers, Heaven Forbid, Brain Surgeons In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >It's funky, it's rappin', it sucks. I LIKE that... if monly most reviews in the lit. were that to the point. For me the albums go from the most compressed Albert-itude in Eponymous... since he does 99.99% guitar and drums and stuff.With trep its a triuly distinct shif in tBS's sound with two really new guitar people doing the work of Albert (and more) the soloing styles are far more varied... from Pete's graceful not torture and warble to Billys rocktasticness in the grand Traditino of Rock Guitar. But as an Album, Trep never had the feelin' of internal cohesion that Epon. or the other 3 had... but then again the band still was very much NEW to each other. Box I like better... it had more sense of togetherness (the live shows on that tour an./ Malpractice too) were so much more focusessed than in Eponymous days...the album itself seemed to use more of the attemptes to link the songs together as an album that Tyrrany used to have... like the earthquake noise in Earthquake boogie... and the heartbeat sound of Gun's intro. Malpractice wasnt so much an album as a complation of "odds and sods" to quote the Who... but I liked it for the diversity and extra cripsness of the formerly tape only tracks.... the ver sion of Baby Ice Dog they do is DEFINITIVE in its attitude adjustment of the material comparaed to T&M ... and the acousticness of the tunes (such as the pull the Plug stuff and to some extent Girl Who Made Love...)_ always seemed to my ear to show much of the development that had happend as the brian surgeons became 5 people in a band working well. The "new" stuff too was gooood respectiful kicking covers. not to mention a nod to one of BOCL's fallen compatriots. Piece of Work is sinply grandiose in scope.... it does the work of Epon. variety of quirk p plus the cohesiveness in compositionsal placement on the two CDs which Box o hammers... fascinating since the album happens at an equllay if not moreso turbulent personnel time for the band.... But its GOOD. It does a good job and being both the end of an era with Petes retiring and Billy unfortunate battle w/illness and also show that a viably rich sonic future is still ahead for albert, deb and david. yay. Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I'm in a FOUL mood today. Stay outa my way or I'll CRITIQUE YOUR ASS to hell. Just ME, just YOU...a decent song. You wanna see THEM, see THEM. I don't give a ****." - Richard Meltzer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From clemens at TRAIL.COM Wed Aug 30 21:28:38 2000 From: clemens at TRAIL.COM (clemens) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 19:28:38 -0600 Subject: HW: airfare to hawkestra Message-ID: I am interested in talking to anyone in the US making plans to attend the reunion in October and looking for affordable airfare and lodging. A round trip to London including 2 night stay at a 3 star hotel just sold at auction for $400! There is now a round trip package with 7 days lodging on auction that closes Friday afternoon. It's a better deal with 2 people, so if anyone wants to join as a travel partner please call me. Standing on the runway, The other Mark L(icht) clemens at trail.com day (505)982-4005 eve (505)438-7771 -- From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Wed Aug 30 21:31:05 2000 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 21:31:05 EDT Subject: Brixton directions Message-ID: Hello, anyone out there familiar with the London area would like to give advice on getting aroung from airport (not picked yet) and hotel (not picked yet) to and from Brixton Academy. Also, anyone familiar with the venue itself (ie: internal geography), I have some specific questions. thank you, bob Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Aug 31 02:33:43 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 07:33:43 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton directions In-Reply-To: <42.a212eee.26df0f59@aol.com> Message-ID: A lot of the venue questions can be answered at www.brixton-academy.co.uk - look under tech info, I think, they've got stage plans, capacities, all sorts. London travel is pretty straightforward, especially as there's an underground station very close to the venue. Ask away! -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Bob Lennon > Sent: 31 August 2000 02:31 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Brixton directions > > > Hello, > anyone out there familiar with the London area would like to give > advice on > getting aroung from airport (not picked yet) and hotel (not picked yet) to > and from Brixton Academy. > Also, anyone familiar with the venue itself (ie: internal > geography), I have > some specific questions. > thank you, > bob > > Hawkwind: Time & Space Website > http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html > From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Aug 31 03:58:09 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 08:58:09 +0100 Subject: BOC: X-Brothers, Heaven Forbid, Brain Surgeons Message-ID: > > For now, remember > "I may be wrong, but i wont be wrong always" > Jason Ten Years After? (dig dig dig deeeep) :-) Cheers, Rich. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM Thu Aug 31 05:46:07 2000 From: mark at ESPARTO.UK.COM (Mark Lee) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 10:46:07 +0100 Subject: OFF: Some Gigs Message-ID: Flicking through the gig guide for The Flowerpot in Derby I found these which may be of interest... Thursday 14th September Man - Martin Ace, Micky Jones, Deke Leonard, Phil Ryan, Bob Richards Tickets 7.00 Saturday 14th October Stan Webbs Chicken Shack Blues/Rock You gotta see this guy if you get chance ! Tickets 7.00 The Crazy World of Arthur Brown Saturday 21st October Tickets 8.00 and finally The Colin Blunstone & Rod Argent Band Colin Blunstone, Rod Argent, Jim Rodford, Steven Rodford, Mark Johns Tickets 8.00 Interested parties can contact the venue on 01332 204955 or the promoters (Raw Promotions) on 01332 834438 Mark (Hasbeen) From keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK Thu Aug 31 06:13:28 2000 From: keithb at CINESITE.CO.UK (Keith Barton) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 11:13:28 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: Ordered my ticket yesterday lunchtime - got it this morning! I therefore claim my free badge :) I guess I'll see you lot in the Beehive then. Are we buying rounds? cheers, Keef -- Thing Do-er Phone:0207 973 4000 Cinesite (Europe) Ltd. Direct:0207 973 4306 9 Carlisle Street Fax:0207 973 4047 London W1V 5RG mailto:keithb at cinesite.co.uk +++++ http://www.cinesite.co.uk +++++ "Pospiech, Bernhard" wrote: > Hi folks > > Here are so far the folks who will come to the BEEHIVE pub before > the Brixton gig on 21.10.2000 > > Is the BEEHIVE ok ? And where exactely is this pub ? Very close to the > Academy ? Near a TUBE station ? More infos from the LONDON folks please!!! > > 1) Andreas Stuewe > 2) Gaby Stuewe > 3) Rainer Wangler > 4) Bernhard Pospiech > 5) Andy Garibaldi > 6) Ben Fagin > 7) Eli Friedman > 8) Kevin Sommers > 9) Jon Jarret > 10) Mike Holmes > 11) Jill Strobridge > 12) Michael Blackman > 13) Merrick French > 14) Julie French > 15) Si ??? > 16) Eric Siegerman > 17) Nick ??? > 18) Dave Greenhalgh > 19) Mick ??? > 20) Kevin Perry > 21) John Stanton > 22) Sara Stanton > 23) Colm ??? > 24) Matt ??? > > Someone forgotten ? > > I suppose the pub will be filled up with HAWKWIND fans. WOW! > > cheers > Bernhard From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 31 06:25:09 2000 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 11:25:09 +0100 Subject: HW: So Alan's back! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 18:16 30/08/00, Jon Jarrett wrote: >And to be honest, if Alan's rejoining, the impact is all that Ron >can contribute. Well, that and his vocals -- he's a more versatile singer than anyone else in the band. Whether Bob was better is irrelevant -- although we miss him, a dead man can't sing. > Still, if Alan is back in that's got to be a good thing. What is the actual source of this rumour? Not to pick on anybody, but this is typical of BOC-L. Someone who may or may not have some degree of inside information posts a rumour without saying where the information comes from. The rest of us are left guessing whether this is a done deal, a possibility that someone mentioned, someone expressing a wish, or pure invention. It's like Kremlin watching (or leaks from the New Labour cabinet). That said, *if* Alan is back, it would be good news. Dave. From cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK Thu Aug 31 05:39:22 2000 From: cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 10:39:22 +0100 Subject: BOC: X-Brothers, Heaven Forbid, Brain Surgeons Message-ID: Rich responded to: > > > > For now, remember > > "I may be wrong, but i wont be wrong always" > > Jason With: > Ten Years After? (dig dig dig deeeep) :-) Almost, but not quite ChrisW who can't quite dig deep enough for the exact title -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Thu Aug 31 08:58:53 2000 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 08:58:53 -0400 Subject: BOC: X-Brothers, Heaven Forbid, Brain Surgeons Message-ID: > > Yes, no BOC fan would complain about seeing the original 5 together > > again for a few shows - but very few would probably want them to be back > > together permanently - the musical output is greater for the most part > > now with the various entities putting out their own stuff. > > Are you guys kidding??? I'd trade everything after > Imaginos for one really heartfelt, kick-ass new studio > by the original five members! ON the other hand, I > don't really think I'd care all that much to see them > just rehashing the old stuff. I'd still pay to see it, > mind you. . . but I'd much rather see a full-on studio > collaboration. When you say "everything after Imaginos", are you referring only to BOC, or BOC/tBS/X-Brothers? If you just mean BOC, I'd agree - that only leaves out HF, Bad Channels, and lost of compilations. My point was more that there would be too much "politics" involved - Al and Joe would probably only get a few songs on the album, and much of the volume of material they've released since Imaginos would go unreleased. Also, I'm assuming that just getting the lineup back together wouldn't recreate the kind of vibe and chemistry they had back in the 70s. > > > Kind of like the way BOC fans hear K.C. and the > Sunshine Band when > > listening to "Damaged" of HF (I'm Damaged - uh huh, > uh huh - and Like It > > - uh huh, uh huh...) ;-) > > Thanks alot, John. I used to like that song!!! Well, I still do - then again, someone else is at fault for pointing this out to me... > I actually like the cover art on HF. The only thing I > found cheezy about it is that the dude's face is a > little too explicit. Otherwise, I think it's a pretty > cool, PHantom of the Opera-ish concept. I've heard various comments as to the "quality" of the artwork, but I agree - I like it. > I'd have to say I'm somewhere in the middle. I like > her on some songs, don't on others. I have to say, > though, that she really ruins one of my favorite TBS > tunes, "A Kiss Is A Promise", with that ungodly > wailing. That high-pitched, throat-rava ging scream > just doesn't fit if you ask me. Otherwise I think it's > a great tune. What, Deb just ain't "sensitive" enough for ya? ;-) But, that "ungodly wailing" may not seem to fit the song, but it fits the overall vibe of *Trepanation*, IMHO. > > Are you nuts? Greater in qty. maybe but greater in quality? I've > wanted them > back together since they split. Jeez, for me, it'd be like a Beatles > reunion! (with Lennon!) Of course, I would only want it if they could > truely > do it right and be succesful, which, frankly, I doubt. Yes, and there's the rub - that's why I say I don't think BOC fans would really want it - it's like my fantasy of wishing that Imaginos was recorded after Some Enchanted Evening (instead of Mirrors) - it's fun for speculation, but when you hold it up to the realities of life, it just wouldn't have worked. And again, I'm not saying we wouldn't like to see a "reunion", I just don't think a continued long-term partnership would be in the best interests of the bandmembers or the fans. > I have been listening to Imaginos lately. That CD is so good its > almost mind > boggling. I'd like to see them do something in that vein... Listen to > the > vibe on that album and go from there. Yeah, but you are assuming the band WOULD go from there. The main reason those songs exist is because of Albert - most of BOC didn't want to do it. All post-release bitterness aside, what do you think the chance is that the original 5 would all agree to go in that direction if they were to get together? > Its a step in the right direction.. who knows what may result in the > aftermath? I see it more as a step in the direction of friendships that transcend music - I don't see it as necessarily a step toward future musical collaboration. That isn't why they got together. From a fan's standpoint it's very cool to think that we will hear music in the future from Buck/Al/Joe playing together. But from THEIR perspectives, I expect the much more cool thing was that they were able to get together and pay tribute to a mutual friend - and maybe share some personal moments with eachother. If it ultimately leads to future musical collaboration, that's great - but that would really be a by-product of why they got back together in the first place (and it would be unfair for fans to place any sort of expectation in this). > > No, my dislike is not because of her style, talent or delivery. I just > can't > get used to a female voice in my rock n' roll. Like I said, its my own > little hang up. Paul Stanley once said, "How can you understand rock and roll if you don't have balls?" Of course, he made a living out of wearing makeup... ;-) > > > > *Piece of Work*, is their most recent, slickest, and most > > varied CD. A > > little something for everyone, and very well-done -- the "layers" of > > instrumentation are many, and the sound is great. > > Now that made my pointy little ears stand up! The "layered" effect is > to me > what makes Imaginos so great. Hmm... never thought to compare *Imaginos* to *Piece of Work* - both have lots of "layers", but very different stylisticly for the most part. > > > Uh, guess what? Jon Shirley didn't write the lyrics to "Harvest Moon". > > I'm assuming that BD did? Its always been hard for me not to like any > BD song. Yes, I believe he did. > > I never bought the Sabbath Reunion disc. How is it? Doesn't it have > a couple of new tunes? Do they compare to the old stuff? The Sabbath Reunion disc is cool because 1) it has the reunion and 2) the original line-up never did a proper live album together. It's not bad, but Ozzy's voice can't hit the high notes on some of the songs like he used to. Instrumentation is good and production is slick. The new songs are fairly forgettable - not bad, but not exactly the second coming (or is this the third, fourth, or fifth) of Black Sabbath. > But as an Album, Trepanation never had the > feelin' of internal cohesion that Epon. or the other 3 had... I feel the opposite - Trepanation was much more "cohesive" than Eponymous. Box of Hammers is also very cohesive. The other albums less so - which really is to say that there are more stylistic variations on them. But, to each his/her own... John PS: Gee, weren't we just complaining recently about the lack of BOC content? ;-) From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Aug 31 09:05:36 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 09:05:36 EDT Subject: OFF: Terrastock IV Message-ID: Just a quick reminder and update on the Terrastock IV festival taking place over the weekend of November 3rd - 5th, 2000 at the historic Showbox, located in downtown Seattle, Washington, USA. 32 bands are currently confirmed for this outstanding event with a couple of surprises still up our collective sleeves. Weekend passes, which are available through Ticketweb (see below for details), can be purchased at the extremely reasonable price of $65.00 until August 31st --- that's tomorrow! (or today, depending on your time zone) --- thereafter still only $75.00. This is for three days worth of music remember, and a chance to see many bands who are making a rare if not unique appearance in the Pacific Northwest. LINE-UP UPDATE Mazarin have cancelled, but the following folks are now confirmed: Moe Tucker, Doug Yule, Creeper Lagoon, Delicate AWOL, and Bardo Pond. With the exception of Bardo Pond, none of these additions have performed at a prior Terrastock festival; of the 32 confirmed bands, 19 (or 60%) are Terrastock "virgins." All the bands listed below will be playing individual sets. IN ADDITION, you can expect collaborations between Damon & Naomi and Ghost, Moe Tucker and Doug Yule, Windy & Carl and The Lothars, and more! It's these collaborations --- some rehearsed, some not --- that put into action the "spirit of peace, love and cooperation" we always write about. Together we hope to make Terrastock IV the most memorable of what has already been a very special series of events. Here's the current list of confirmed bands: ABUNAI! THE ALCHEMYSTS AMBER ASYLUM BARDO POND THE BEVIS FROND CHARALAMBIDES CHILDREN OF THE RAINBOW COUNTRY JOE McDONALD & THE FROND-FISH CREEPER LAGOON CROME SYRCUS DAMON & NAOMI DELICATE AWOL DONOVAN'S BRAIN ETHEREAL COUNTERBALANCE GHOST THE GREEN PAJAMAS THE LINUS PAULING QUARTET THE LOTHARS MAJOR STARS MARTYN BATES (Eyeless in Gaza) THE MINUS FIVE THE MONKEYWRENCH PAT ORCHARD THE SIX ORGANS OF ADMITTANCE STONE BREATH SUBARACHNOID SPACE TARENTEL MOE TUCKER VOYAGER ONE WELLWATER CONSPIRACY WINDY & CARL DOUG YULE T4 CONTACT INFORMATION Tickets: * Ticketweb (www.ticketweb.com or call 1-800-965-4827 or 1-510-594-1400) Direct link to purchase tickets on-line: http://www.ticketweb.com/user/?region=wa&query=schedule&attract=37999 * Sonic Boom Records, Seattle (206-547-2666) * Orpheum Records, Seattle (206-322-6370) Venue address: Showbox 1426 1st Avenue Seattle, WA 98101 (206-628-3151) Festival Organizer: Chris Porter One Reel P.O. Box 9750 Seattle, WA 98109 cporter at onereel.org Festival Promoter: Phil McMullen, The Ptolemaic Terrascope, PO Box 2152, Melksham, Wiltshire SN12 7UQ, England Editor at terrascope.org For questions about the Terrascope website write to Jon at: webmaster at terrascope.org From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Thu Aug 31 11:16:46 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 08:16:46 -0700 Subject: BOC: X-Brothers, Heaven Forbid, Brain Surgeons Message-ID: > Yes, and there's the rub - that's why I say I don't think BOC > fans would > really want it - it's like my fantasy of wishing that Imaginos was > recorded after Some Enchanted Evening (instead of Mirrors) - it's fun > for speculation, but when you hold it up to the realities of life, it > just wouldn't have worked. Well, wanting it to happen and actually believing that it *could* happen are two different things. I don't understand the comment about fans not wanting it though. > > And again, I'm not saying we wouldn't like to see a "reunion", I just > don't think a continued long-term partnership would be in the best > interests of the bandmembers or the fans. I disagree. IF it could be done (big IF), I think it would be great for all concerned. Again, thats IF it could be done the right way. I know there are various reasons that doing that would be problematic. I don't care, I'm just wishing.. (If wishes were fishes...) > > > I have been listening to Imaginos lately. That CD is so good its > > almost mind > > boggling. I'd like to see them do something in that vein... > Listen to > > the > > vibe on that album and go from there. > > Yeah, but you are assuming the band WOULD go from there. The main > reason those songs exist is because of Albert - most of BOC > didn't want > to do it. All post-release bitterness aside, what do you think the > chance is that the original 5 would all agree to go in that > direction if > they were to get together? Again, I'm just saying what *I* want them to do, not neccesarily what they would do. My guess is that if it happened, I'd prolly end up disappointed in the end. My expectations would be unrealistic. But hey, who knows? Sometimes you *can* go back... > > > > Its a step in the right direction.. who knows what may result in the > > aftermath? > > I see it more as a step in the direction of friendships that transcend > music - I don't see it as necessarily a step toward future musical > collaboration. That isn't why they got together. From a fan's > standpoint it's very cool to think that we will hear music in > the future > from Buck/Al/Joe playing together. Of course, I'm speaking as a fan, I don't know these people on a personal level and their private affairs are not my concern. I'm looking at it (maybe selfishly) as a possibility that friendships rekindled could perhaps lead to the desire to perform together as well. > If it ultimately leads to future musical > collaboration, that's great - but that would really be a by-product of > why they got back together in the first place (and it would be unfair > for fans to place any sort of expectation in this). Expectations, no.. Hope? Yes... > > Paul Stanley once said, "How can you understand rock and roll if you > don't have balls?" > Of course, he made a living out of wearing makeup... ;-) Hah! Great quote! > > > *Piece of Work*, is their most recent, slickest, and most > > > varied CD. A > > > little something for everyone, and very well-done -- the > "layers" of > > > instrumentation are many, and the sound is great. > > > > Now that made my pointy little ears stand up! The "layered" > effect is > > to me > > what makes Imaginos so great. > > Hmm... never thought to compare *Imaginos* to *Piece of Work* - both > have lots of "layers", but very different stylisticly for the > most part. Having never heard *Piece of Work*, I wouldn't know. I was merely mentioning that I enjoy music with "layers" and so perhaps would enjoy PoW more than I did Eponymous. > > I never bought the Sabbath Reunion disc. How is it? > Doesn't it have > > a couple of new tunes? Do they compare to the old stuff? > > The Sabbath Reunion disc is cool because 1) it has the reunion and 2) > the original line-up never did a proper live album together. It's not > bad, but Ozzy's voice can't hit the high notes on some of the > songs like > he used to. Instrumentation is good and production is slick. The new > songs are fairly forgettable - not bad, but not exactly the second > coming (or is this the third, fourth, or fifth) of Black Sabbath. I actually don't miss most of Ozzy's high notes.. I found them a little obnoxious (Listen to Sabbath Bloody Sabbath) and it actually is easier on the ears with him unable to reach them. Also, you can get hours of good family entertainment just trying to count how many times Ozzy says, "Lemme see your fucking hands in the air!" > PS: Gee, weren't we just complaining recently about the lack of BOC > content? ;-) Leave it to an opinionated bastard like me to stir up the pot :) JB From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Thu Aug 31 12:32:12 2000 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:32:12 EDT Subject: BOC: X-Brothers, Heaven Forbid, Brain Surgeons Message-ID: In a message dated 08/31/2000 5:57:14 AM Central Daylight Time, cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK writes: << Rich responded to: > > > > For now, remember > > "I may be wrong, but i wont be wrong always" > > Jason With: > Ten Years After? (dig dig dig deeeep) :-) Almost, but not quite ChrisW who can't quite dig deep enough for the exact title >> Actually, the exact title was "I may be wrong, but I won't be wrong always". >From the album Undead. Ric From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Aug 31 13:18:48 2000 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 18:18:48 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: Reminds me of a HW gig at Plymouth Academy circa 1998. The power went off and at the front i shouted "so, who's round is it?". Got a laugh from Alan on-stage. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Barton To: Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 11:13 AM Subject: Re: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > Ordered my ticket yesterday lunchtime - got it this morning! > > I therefore claim my free badge :) > > I guess I'll see you lot in the Beehive then. Are we buying rounds? > > cheers, > > Keef > > > -- > Thing Do-er Phone:0207 973 4000 > Cinesite (Europe) Ltd. Direct:0207 973 4306 > 9 Carlisle Street Fax:0207 973 4047 > London W1V 5RG mailto:keithb at cinesite.co.uk > +++++ http://www.cinesite.co.uk +++++ > > > > > "Pospiech, Bernhard" wrote: > > > Hi folks > > > > Here are so far the folks who will come to the BEEHIVE pub before > > the Brixton gig on 21.10.2000 > > > > Is the BEEHIVE ok ? And where exactely is this pub ? Very close to the > > Academy ? Near a TUBE station ? More infos from the LONDON folks please!!! > > > > 1) Andreas Stuewe > > 2) Gaby Stuewe > > 3) Rainer Wangler > > 4) Bernhard Pospiech > > 5) Andy Garibaldi > > 6) Ben Fagin > > 7) Eli Friedman > > 8) Kevin Sommers > > 9) Jon Jarret > > 10) Mike Holmes > > 11) Jill Strobridge > > 12) Michael Blackman > > 13) Merrick French > > 14) Julie French > > 15) Si ??? > > 16) Eric Siegerman > > 17) Nick ??? > > 18) Dave Greenhalgh > > 19) Mick ??? > > 20) Kevin Perry > > 21) John Stanton > > 22) Sara Stanton > > 23) Colm ??? > > 24) Matt ??? > > > > Someone forgotten ? > > > > I suppose the pub will be filled up with HAWKWIND fans. WOW! > > > > cheers > > Bernhard > From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Aug 31 13:25:27 2000 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Ian Abrahams) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 18:25:27 +0100 Subject: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) Message-ID: Yes, I know, I know.... circa 1988! ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Abrahams To: Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 6:18 PM Subject: Re: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > Reminds me of a HW gig at Plymouth Academy circa 1998. The power went off > and at the front i shouted "so, who's round is it?". Got a laugh from Alan > on-stage. > > Ian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Keith Barton > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 11:13 AM > Subject: Re: HW: Meeting in pub before Brixton gig (List) > > > > Ordered my ticket yesterday lunchtime - got it this morning! > > > > I therefore claim my free badge :) > > > > I guess I'll see you lot in the Beehive then. Are we buying rounds? > > > > cheers, > > > > Keef > > > > > > -- > > Thing Do-er Phone:0207 973 4000 > > Cinesite (Europe) Ltd. Direct:0207 973 4306 > > 9 Carlisle Street Fax:0207 973 4047 > > London W1V 5RG mailto:keithb at cinesite.co.uk > > +++++ http://www.cinesite.co.uk +++++ > > > > > > > > > > "Pospiech, Bernhard" wrote: > > > > > Hi folks > > > > > > Here are so far the folks who will come to the BEEHIVE pub before > > > the Brixton gig on 21.10.2000 > > > > > > Is the BEEHIVE ok ? And where exactely is this pub ? Very close to the > > > Academy ? Near a TUBE station ? More infos from the LONDON folks > please!!! > > > > > > 1) Andreas Stuewe > > > 2) Gaby Stuewe > > > 3) Rainer Wangler > > > 4) Bernhard Pospiech > > > 5) Andy Garibaldi > > > 6) Ben Fagin > > > 7) Eli Friedman > > > 8) Kevin Sommers > > > 9) Jon Jarret > > > 10) Mike Holmes > > > 11) Jill Strobridge > > > 12) Michael Blackman > > > 13) Merrick French > > > 14) Julie French > > > 15) Si ??? > > > 16) Eric Siegerman > > > 17) Nick ??? > > > 18) Dave Greenhalgh > > > 19) Mick ??? > > > 20) Kevin Perry > > > 21) John Stanton > > > 22) Sara Stanton > > > 23) Colm ??? > > > 24) Matt ??? > > > > > > Someone forgotten ? > > > > > > I suppose the pub will be filled up with HAWKWIND fans. WOW! > > > > > > cheers > > > Bernhard > > > From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Aug 31 13:20:32 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:20:32 -0400 Subject: BOC: X-Brothers, Heaven Forbid, Brain Surgeons In-Reply-To: <4973895A322CD411A6B000A0C96E961120737E@C2> Message-ID: JB writes: > Well, wanting it to happen and actually believing that it *could* happen are > two different things. I don't understand the comment about fans not wanting > it though. In my case, I just said I wasn't hoping for a "permanent" reunion. I would love to have a reunion CD and tour, but I wouldn't want a reformed BOC to infringe on the great stuff Al, Joe, etc. are putting out on their own. >> I see it more as a step in the direction of friendships that transcend >> music - I don't see it as necessarily a step toward future musical >> collaboration. That isn't why they got together. From a fan's >> standpoint it's very cool to think that we will hear music in >> the future >> from Buck/Al/Joe playing together. > > Of course, I'm speaking as a fan, I don't know these people on a personal > level and their private affairs are not my concern. I'm looking at it (maybe > selfishly) as a possibility that friendships rekindled could perhaps lead to > the desire to perform together as well. I look at The Brain Surgeons performing Godzilla live as a step in this direction. Of course, it doesn't mean they'll definitely get together. But if BOC starts playing Magna of Illusion.... ;-) > Having never heard *Piece of Work*, I wouldn't know. I was merely mentioning > that I enjoy music with "layers" and so perhaps would enjoy PoW more than I > did Eponymous. I did. Box of Hammers has this sound as well, and it has a more similar vibe between songs (as much as can be said for a Brain Surgeons release) than PoW. So, I'd personally go with that album first. > I actually don't miss most of Ozzy's high notes.. I found them a little > obnoxious (Listen to Sabbath Bloody Sabbath) and it actually is easier on > the ears with him unable to reach them. I agree about Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. It's like the difference between the album and live versions of 7x7 (Hawkwind). The live version doesn't make my ears bloody bleed. >Also, you can get hours of good > family entertainment just trying to count how many times Ozzy says, "Lemme > see your fucking hands in the air!" Or "Louder! Louder!" Must be Ozzy's been listening to the studio Sabbath Bloody Sabbath too much over the years. "No, really, I can't hear you!" ;-) >> PS: Gee, weren't we just complaining recently about the lack of BOC >> content? ;-) > > Leave it to an opinionated bastard like me to stir up the pot :) > > JB Yes. Thank you! Has anyone heard the new BOC tunes "Eye of the Hurricane," "Pocket," (Guess what's in my?) and "Now is the Time The Old Gods Return" and want to expound on the "sounds like AC/DC" or "like a Buck tune" analysis? Could one of these actually be a new Spinal Tap tune? "Now is the Time the Old Gods Return (The Time For the Returning of the Old Gods is Now)" Brian obSong> "Back From the Dead" Spinal Tap From m.j.crook at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Aug 31 14:53:41 2000 From: m.j.crook at BTINTERNET.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:53:41 +0100 Subject: HW Stonehenge Collection Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Apologies if this has been covered before or is old news. I bought a HW cd today called the 'Stonehenge Collection'. Its a double cd and consists of 'Zones' and 'Do not panic'. It claims to be a collectors limited edition on gold discs. I haven't seen any mention of it before and was wondering if it is a genuine limited edition. As I haven't got either album on CD it seemed like a good buy. Cheers Mick From blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK Thu Aug 31 15:29:19 2000 From: blueskin69 at NETSCAPEONLINE.CO.UK (Gordon Reid) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:29:19 -0400 Subject: HW: So Alan's back! Message-ID: On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 11:25:09 +0100, Dave Berry wrote: >At 18:16 30/08/00, Jon Jarrett wrote: >>And to be honest, if Alan's rejoining, the impact is all that Ron >>can contribute. > >Well, that and his vocals -- he's a more versatile singer than anyone else >in the band. Whether Bob was better is irrelevant -- although we miss him, >a dead man can't sing. > >> Still, if Alan is back in that's got to be a good thing. > >What is the actual source of this rumour? Not to pick on anybody, but this >is typical of BOC-L. Someone who may or may not have some degree of inside >information posts a rumour without saying where the information comes from. > The rest of us are left guessing whether this is a done deal, a >possibility that someone mentioned, someone expressing a wish, or pure >invention. It's like Kremlin watching (or leaks from the New Labour cabinet). > >That said, *if* Alan is back, it would be good news. > >Dave. This info came from me I was talking to Alan on satarday night, the funny thing is me & the mates were just talking about this today, you know that some of the stuff you read on here you think is that true or are we in fantasy land, that is when i said well we know we were talking to him and thats good enough for me. On the same note other people might also be telling the truth for all anyone knows all these ex Hawkwind members might just be fucking with our heads. And on!!!! A mate of mine phoned me today after buying the new best of Motorhead CD and he said in the notes that it said Lemmy will be recording with Hawkwind later in the year, but once again is it true. Cheers. Gordon. From Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK Thu Aug 31 16:18:15 2000 From: Jeremy at DACOMBE.FSNET.CO.UK (J D) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:18:15 +0100 Subject: HW: Rumour of Alan Message-ID: Hi, I'm wondering if the original rumour of AD's return is in fact a mis-interpretation of a comment in Brian Tawn's latest newsletter. In it, Brian was listing AD dates, but then said that in his opinion the ones around 21st Oct are dubious due to the HW gig. I read that as meaning that AD wouldn't want to be competing for the same audience or even that he'd want to be in the audience himself. Maybe others read that as meaning something else? I dunno, would the originator care to comment? Personally I don't want to see any bassist other than Lemmy at Brixton, for obvious reasons. Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From colm1 at MINISTRYOFSOUND.NET Thu Aug 31 16:52:08 2000 From: colm1 at MINISTRYOFSOUND.NET (bedroom trancer) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:52:08 +0100 Subject: HW: Rumour of Alan Message-ID: yeah i want lemmy too but i wouldn't mind paul rudolph making an appearance on 2nd bass guitar. colm -----Original Message----- From: J D To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 31 August 2000 21:38 Subject: HW: Rumour of Alan Hi, I'm wondering if the original rumour of AD's return is in fact a mis-interpretation of a comment in Brian Tawn's latest newsletter. In it, Brian was listing AD dates, but then said that in his opinion the ones around 21st Oct are dubious due to the HW gig. I read that as meaning that AD wouldn't want to be competing for the same audience or even that he'd want to be in the audience himself. Maybe others read that as meaning something else? I dunno, would the originator care to comment? 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( AGAIN ! ) I was talking to Alan davey on saturday night and that is what he said. bedroom trancer wrote: > yeah i want lemmy too but i wouldn't mind paul rudolph making an > appearance on 2nd bass guitar. colm > > -----Original Message----- > From: J D > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: 31 August 2000 21:38 > Subject: HW: Rumour of Alan > Hi,I'm wondering if the original rumour of AD's return is > in fact a mis-interpretation of a comment in Brian Tawn's > latest newsletter.In it, Brian was listing AD dates, but > then said that in his opinion the ones around 21st Oct are > dubious due to the HW gig.I read that as meaning that AD > wouldn't want to be competing for the same audience or even > that he'd want to be in the audience himself.Maybe others > read that as meaning something else?I dunno, would the > originator care to comment?Personally I don't want to see > any bassist other than Lemmy at Brixton, for obvious > reasons.Jez > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 31 17:33:17 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 22:33:17 +0100 Subject: BOC going off at a tangent into H'wind/Oxxy areas Message-ID: ..........or going off at a complete tangent (as this is prone to doing) and linking the content here with H'wind, has anyone heard the track on the tribute to Ozzy album with Lemmy on lead vocals and great bass guitar - better than Ozzy!!!! Actually 80% of the album's better than Ozzy, in the same way that all the AC/DC tribute albums are better than AC/DC and the Pink Foyd tribute double walks over the real thing - funny old world (and of course nothing to do with BOC - sorry chaps!!) Still reckon'Revolution By Night' is a killer album but no-one's brought that one up yet. Andy Garibaldi. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Halligan" To: Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 6:20 PM Subject: Re: BOC: X-Brothers, Heaven Forbid, Brain Surgeons > JB writes: > > > Well, wanting it to happen and actually believing that it *could* happen are > > two different things. I don't understand the comment about fans not wanting > > it though. > > In my case, I just said I wasn't hoping for a "permanent" reunion. I would > love to have a reunion CD and tour, but I wouldn't want a reformed BOC to > infringe on the great stuff Al, Joe, etc. are putting out on their own. > > >> I see it more as a step in the direction of friendships that transcend > >> music - I don't see it as necessarily a step toward future musical > >> collaboration. That isn't why they got together. From a fan's > >> standpoint it's very cool to think that we will hear music in > >> the future > >> from Buck/Al/Joe playing together. > > > > Of course, I'm speaking as a fan, I don't know these people on a personal > > level and their private affairs are not my concern. I'm looking at it (maybe > > selfishly) as a possibility that friendships rekindled could perhaps lead to > > the desire to perform together as well. > > I look at The Brain Surgeons performing Godzilla live as a step in this > direction. Of course, it doesn't mean they'll definitely get together. But > if BOC starts playing Magna of Illusion.... ;-) > > > Having never heard *Piece of Work*, I wouldn't know. I was merely mentioning > > that I enjoy music with "layers" and so perhaps would enjoy PoW more than I > > did Eponymous. > > I did. Box of Hammers has this sound as well, and it has a more similar vibe > between songs (as much as can be said for a Brain Surgeons release) than > PoW. So, I'd personally go with that album first. > > > I actually don't miss most of Ozzy's high notes.. I found them a little > > obnoxious (Listen to Sabbath Bloody Sabbath) and it actually is easier on > > the ears with him unable to reach them. > > I agree about Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. It's like the difference between the > album and live versions of 7x7 (Hawkwind). The live version doesn't make my > ears bloody bleed. > > >Also, you can get hours of good > > family entertainment just trying to count how many times Ozzy says, "Lemme > > see your fucking hands in the air!" > > Or "Louder! Louder!" Must be Ozzy's been listening to the studio Sabbath > Bloody Sabbath too much over the years. "No, really, I can't hear you!" ;-) > > >> PS: Gee, weren't we just complaining recently about the lack of BOC > >> content? ;-) > > > > Leave it to an opinionated bastard like me to stir up the pot :) > > > > JB > > Yes. Thank you! Has anyone heard the new BOC tunes "Eye of the Hurricane," > "Pocket," (Guess what's in my?) and "Now is the Time The Old Gods Return" > and want to expound on the "sounds like AC/DC" or "like a Buck tune" > analysis? > > Could one of these actually be a new Spinal Tap tune? > "Now is the Time the Old Gods Return (The Time For the Returning of the Old > Gods is Now)" > > Brian > obSong> "Back From the Dead" Spinal Tap From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 31 17:37:19 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 22:37:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Rumour of Alan Message-ID: To put this one well and truly to bed, Alan is joining Hawkwind full-time after the reunion, but it looks like Bedouin will take a back seat rather than disappear. While we all applaud the former, believe me, once you all get to hear the new Bedouin album (as opposed to the next Alan Davey solo that we are doing), you'll regret the latter. Andy Garibaldi (who does know) ----- Original Message ----- From: J D To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 9:18 PM Subject: HW: Rumour of Alan Hi, I'm wondering if the original rumour of AD's return is in fact a mis-interpretation of a comment in Brian Tawn's latest newsletter. In it, Brian was listing AD dates, but then said that in his opinion the ones around 21st Oct are dubious due to the HW gig. I read that as meaning that AD wouldn't want to be competing for the same audience or even that he'd want to be in the audience himself. Maybe others read that as meaning something else? I dunno, would the originator care to comment? Personally I don't want to see any bassist other than Lemmy at Brixton, for obvious reasons. Jez -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 31 17:41:42 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 22:41:42 +0100 Subject: HW Stonehenge Collection Message-ID: Yes - we've had it for a few weeks here at CDS. It is a limited edition in as far as Cleoptra say but as to how many that is, open to guesswork, 'cuz they're not saying. The Hawkwind 'Psychedelic Warriors' comp in the cloth bag on Cleopatra ultimately disappeared, but not after a few years, so don't hold you breath for a collectors item - neat piece of work though (and the other 'gold' one 'Golden Void' is still in stock and orderable from Cleo., so who can say what limited means here). Andy Garibaldi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mick Crook" To: Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 7:53 PM Subject: HW Stonehenge Collection > Hello Everyone, > > Apologies if this has been covered before or is old news. > I bought a HW cd today called the 'Stonehenge Collection'. > Its a double cd and consists of 'Zones' and 'Do not panic'. > It claims to be a collectors limited edition on gold discs. > I haven't seen any mention of it before and was wondering if it > is a genuine limited edition. > As I haven't got either album on CD it seemed like a good buy. > > Cheers > Mick From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Thu Aug 31 17:35:52 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 14:35:52 -0700 Subject: BOC going off at a tangent into H'wind/Oxxy areas Message-ID: > Still reckon'Revolution By Night' is a killer album but > no-one's brought > that one up yet. I'm afraid that one sits on my dusty shelves along with Club Ninja and... Sheesh, this is bad, I can't even remember the name of the other, it was after Cultosaurus I think. JB From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Thu Aug 31 17:40:46 2000 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 14:40:46 -0700 Subject: BOC going off at a tangent into H'wind/Oxxy areas Message-ID: I remember now.. Fire of Unknown Origin... > I'm afraid that one sits on my dusty shelves along with Club > Ninja and... > Sheesh, this is bad, I can't even remember the name of the > other, it was > after Cultosaurus I think. > > JB > From m.j.crook at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Aug 31 18:49:30 2000 From: m.j.crook at BTINTERNET.COM (Mick Crook) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 23:49:30 +0100 Subject: HW Stonehenge Collection Message-ID: Thanks Andy, the lable is Purple Pyramid, is that the same as Cleopatra? I've long since lost track of all these various lables. I haven't played these tracks for ages - I'd forgotten what a great version of Levitation is on the 'Do not Panic' album. Mick >Yes - we've had it for a few weeks here at CDS. It is a limited edition in >as far as Cleoptra say but as to how many that is, open to guesswork, 'cuz >they're not saying. The Hawkwind 'Psychedelic Warriors' comp in the cloth >bag on Cleopatra ultimately disappeared, but not after a few years, so >don't hold you breath for a collectors item - neat piece of work though (and >the other 'gold' one 'Golden Void' is still in stock and orderable from >Cleo., so who can say what limited means here). >Andy Garibaldi >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mick Crook" >To: >Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2000 7:53 PM >Subject: HW Stonehenge Collection > > >> Hello Everyone, >> >> Apologies if this has been covered before or is old news. >> I bought a HW cd today called the 'Stonehenge Collection'. >> Its a double cd and consists of 'Zones' and 'Do not panic'. >> It claims to be a collectors limited edition on gold discs. >> I haven't seen any mention of it before and was wondering if it >> is a genuine limited edition. >> As I haven't got either album on CD it seemed like a good buy. >> >> Cheers >> Mick > > From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Aug 31 19:07:47 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:07:47 -0700 Subject: HW Stonehenge Collection Message-ID: On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 23:49:30 +0100, Mick Crook wrote: >Thanks Andy, the lable is Purple Pyramid, is that the same as Cleopatra? I've >long since lost track of all these various lables. Yes, Purple Pyramid seems to be the Cleopatra subsidiary for spacerock/psych/krautrock/etc. That also seems to have a nasty habit of not quite giving you everything you thought you were paying for. I was incensed when I found that the last 3-1/2 minutes of "Robot" are cut from the version on their 'Golden Void' double CD. I've also heard that their Ash Ra Tempel 2-fers cut out some of the material, but I haven't actually heard the CD's (and after my experience with 'Golden Void' I certainly won't be buying them!). Does 'Stonehenge Collection' have any unfortunate edits along those lines? At least the Pink Fairies CD on Purple Pyramid includes the complete live at Glastonbury version of "Uncle Harry's Last Freakout"! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Thu Aug 31 19:23:32 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:23:32 EDT Subject: OFF: MOTORHEAD no sleep til h'smith news Message-ID: from an email sent to me by steve hammonds, label president, castle records: <> 'that tour' meaning the 'ace up your sleeve' tour... psyched! bobm From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu Aug 31 21:14:56 2000 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:14:56 EDT Subject: HW: Brixton directions Message-ID: thank you, bob In a message dated 8/30/00 11:33:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > A lot of the venue questions can be answered at www.brixton-academy.co.uk - > look under tech info, I think, they've got stage plans, capacities, all > sorts. > > London travel is pretty straightforward, especially as there's an > underground station very close to the venue. Ask away! > > -- Andy Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Aug 31 23:34:27 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 23:34:27 EDT Subject: OFF: MOTORHEAD no sleep til h'smith news Message-ID: In a message dated 8/31/00 7:24:54 PM, RMayo19761 at AOL.COM writes: <> ======= i could see where you'd be so.... heh good for you "<>" From desdinova at BREATHEMAIL.NET Thu Aug 31 17:46:34 2000 From: desdinova at BREATHEMAIL.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 22:46:34 +0100 Subject: BOC: X-Brothers, Heaven Forbid, Brain Surgeons In-Reply-To: <4b.4a7287.26dfe28c@aol.com> Message-ID: I humbly apologise & back down...something's obviously gone VERY fuzzy in the back brain ChrisW NP:Jack Bruce -Live On The Old Grey Whistle Test At 17:32 31/08/00, you wrote: >In a message dated 08/31/2000 5:57:14 AM Central Daylight Time, >cwarburton at RDF-CONSULTING.CO.UK writes: > ><< Rich responded to: > > > > > > > For now, remember > > > "I may be wrong, but i wont be wrong always" > > > Jason > > With: > > Ten Years After? (dig dig dig deeeep) :-) > > > Almost, but not quite > > ChrisW > who can't quite dig deep enough for the exact title >> > >Actually, the exact title was "I may be wrong, but I won't be wrong always". > >From the album Undead. > >Ric From desdinova at BREATHEMAIL.NET Thu Aug 31 17:51:31 2000 From: desdinova at BREATHEMAIL.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 22:51:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Rumour of Alan In-Reply-To: <005701c01389$fd9c4c60$658f883e@jezd> Message-ID: After Friday's AoS show in Hamilton, I said to Alan on my way out "See you at Brixton" and he replied "Oh, yeah, should be a good one!" make of that what you will! ChrisW At 21:18 31/08/00, you wrote: >Hi, >I'm wondering if the original rumour of AD's return is in fact a >mis-interpretation of a comment in Brian Tawn's latest newsletter. >In it, Brian was listing AD dates, but then said that in his opinion the >ones around 21st Oct are dubious due to the HW gig. >I read that as meaning that AD wouldn't want to be competing for the same >audience or even that he'd want to be in the audience himself. >Maybe others read that as meaning something else? >I dunno, would the originator care to comment? >Personally I don't want to see any bassist other than Lemmy at Brixton, >for obvious reasons. >Jez