From christmu at EUNET.NO Sat Apr 1 06:19:41 2000 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 13:19:41 +0200 Subject: OFF: Sad lad fantasies... :-) Message-ID: >> For me it's Carol Bayer Sager or that Nina woman with the song about >> balloons. Mine was always Siouxie Sioux, especially the 'Dear Prudence' video in the mid 80s. Chr. ObCD: Husker Du - Everything Falls Apart And More From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Apr 1 13:25:54 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 19:25:54 +0100 Subject: HW Thrilling Fables Message-ID: Here's a list of ten unconfirmed, as yet, HW rumours. Some have been mentioned before, they are not in any order...I've not included the - does X think that Y is @2?4 type. Over to you to verify or deny...or just give an answer. 1. The entire Sundown gig that "It's So Easy" was taken from was almost released by EMI in 1984 and is still in the vault. 2. The Warrior tour was recorded for a live LP but because of Lemmy's exit and M.Moorcock's displeasure with UA and Doug Smith over Kings Of Speed being included in Warrior rather than New World's Fair was not released. 3. PXR5 was meant to have been a live LP from the Quark tour 4. There are enough unreleased tracks from both ASAM and QS&C to fill a CD i.e. High Rise, Robot etc. 5. The Space Ritual was filmed and one of the band has it 6. Simon King rejoined the band in the early 80's but got the boot when he asked for a pay rise. 7. The BBC Sessions ho ho ho tell us the story! 8. Dave Brock still plays in a blues band and releases records under a different name 9. Lemmy rehearsed with the band for the Earth Ritual tour but walked out before the tour because Nik refused to apologise for giving him the boot in 75. 10. The 1982/3(?) baton incident - 'nuff said g'vnor More to follow? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Sat Apr 1 15:11:04 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 06:11:04 +1000 Subject: HW: calvert at QEH Message-ID: Me again. Sorry to bother you, but someone sent me an email a couple of weeks ago re. the Calvert album 'live at Queen E. Hall', and I seem to have accidentally deleted it. Would they mind contacting me again, preferably at my other address (sorry to mung it, but these posts get archived, and I'm determined not to lose that address to spam) Thanks -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From micci at SCI.FI Sun Apr 2 07:11:36 2000 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 14:11:36 +0300 Subject: HW:who´s gonna win the war single Message-ID: Hi! I just found out, that there is two different mix consider Bronze records Who?s Gonna.. single. Original and reissue are different, just listen end of the song and you will find out that. Never saw this mention before. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Apr 2 07:23:17 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 07:23:17 EDT Subject: OFF <== // PGP, anyone? Message-ID: hello folks, in addition to all the groovy times i have at BOC-L, i also participate on a board which, unfortunately, has much more to do with the real world. _much_ more. anyway, i cant recall if it had been there or here, but wasnt someone inquiring about pgp encryption? i've got it, havent used it meself yet (?), but this is from whence i downloaded it. MIT distribution site for PGP sorry my links dont arrive "hot" these days....dunno why that would be, but this is the place.... hope it helps "<>" good-bad but not evil From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Apr 2 07:42:34 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 12:42:34 +0100 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:______HW:who=B4s_gonna_win_the_war_single?= Message-ID: There are two different labels: one the paper type and the other, one of those injection moulded efforts. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Miikka Wagner To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 02 April 2000 12:12 Subject: HW:who?s gonna win the war single Hi! I just found out, that there is two different mix consider Bronze records Who?s Gonna.. single. Original and reissue are different, just listen end of the song and you will find out that. Never saw this mention before. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Apr 2 07:50:17 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 12:50:17 +0100 Subject: OFF <== // PGP, anyone? In-Reply-To: <43.2d4a144.261887a5@aol.com> Message-ID: Oh, sorry, I thought you meant PCP... -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Apr 2 07:49:02 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 12:49:02 +0100 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor (again) Message-ID: Saw this lot in Glasgow last week - awesome. Supported by Sigur ros: a mixture of Durutti Column, the Chameleons, Bjork...and Van der Graaf Generator - check them out! Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Apr 2 07:58:05 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 07:58:05 EDT Subject: OFF <== // PGP, anyone? for real this time -_- Message-ID: In a message dated 4/2/00 7:49:08 AM, Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: << Oh, sorry, I thought you meant PCP... -- Andy >> ======= nay, comrade, mind-rotting, make ya sick type stuff by my experience... but the link i sent was _blank_ !! WTF? here, try this: http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp.html "<>" From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Apr 2 08:28:56 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 13:28:56 +0100 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor (again) In-Reply-To: <002401bf9c99$71aa9fc0$8651883e@default> Message-ID: Going tomorrow! :) Sigur Ros are pretty damn good on record - haven't seen them live yet - check out their web site on http://www.sigur-ros.com/. Apparently they've just swept the Icelandic music awards... At the London date we get a second support, another Canadian outfit called Fly Pan Am, who have been described as Godspeed jamming with White Light-era Velvets. More on them, and the headliners, at the Constellation website, http://www.cstrecords.com/. -- Andy ObCD: Sigur Ros - _Von_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of david hall Sent: 02 April 2000 12:49 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor (again) Saw this lot in Glasgow last week - awesome. Supported by Sigur ros: a mixture of Durutti Column, the Chameleons, Bjork...and Van der Graaf Generator - check them out! Dave From RHamel4129 at AOL.COM Sun Apr 2 09:59:45 2000 From: RHamel4129 at AOL.COM (Rich Hamel) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 09:59:45 EDT Subject: Imaginos Sighting!.... Sort of... Message-ID: Hello all, Well, imagine my surprise when I went to an engagement party at my girlfriend's Aunt's house in Doylestown, PA last weekend when, in looking at the many pictured they have hung in the house, I was confronted by the "Cliff House", the castle on the cover of Imaginos. I always thought that was a doctored shot because it looks like the house is superimposed into the picture, but nope. The only doctoring is that the picture I saw was a sunny day with people standing on the beach near the foreground of the picture. The boat to the left is the same! Looks like they may have taken the shot I saw and "sinister-ized" it into the eerie picture on the cover. Does anyone know if the Cliff House still exists? My company is based near SF and if it's still around I'd like to check it out next time I make the cross-country flight. Rich From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sun Apr 2 10:39:10 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 10:39:10 -0400 Subject: Fwd: SLOTERDIJK: Ticket Giveaway Message-ID: Pass this information on to anyone who might be interested.. http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: SLOTERDIJK at webtv.net (SLOTERDIJK) Subject: SLOTERDIJK: Ticket Giveaway Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 15:11:29 -0500 (EST) Size: 1783 URL: From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sun Apr 2 10:37:21 2000 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 09:37:21 -0500 Subject: Imaginos Sighting!.... Sort of... Message-ID: Yes! It still exists. I was there just about a year ago . . . http://www.sanfranciscomemories.com/cliff/house.html http://www.cliffhouse.com/ BOC Imaginos cover: http://www.bocfanclub.com/TheStudio/Collect.html (scroll to bottom) Great restaurant. Fabulous food and atmosphere. But! I have to say . . . when I went downstairs to the restroom, I was totally spooked. Think there are rumours of the place being haunted . . . Check it out if you get the chance. Take me with you! ;-) Karen Rich Hamel wrote: > > Hello all, > > Well, imagine my surprise when I went to an engagement party at my > girlfriend's Aunt's house in Doylestown, PA last weekend when, in looking at > the many pictured they have hung in the house, I was confronted by the "Cliff > House", the castle on the cover of Imaginos. I always thought that was a > doctored shot because it looks like the house is superimposed into the > picture, but nope. The only doctoring is that the picture I saw was a sunny > day with people standing on the beach near the foreground of the picture. The > boat to the left is the same! Looks like they may have taken the shot I saw > and "sinister-ized" it into the eerie picture on the cover. > > Does anyone know if the Cliff House still exists? My company is based near SF > and if it's still around I'd like to check it out next time I make the > cross-country flight. > > Rich -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Apr 2 10:56:54 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 15:56:54 +0100 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor (again) Message-ID: Fly Pan Am were okay-not brilliant. Take some dosh with you as there are good number of CD's to be bought at the gig. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Andy Gilham To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 02 April 2000 13:27 Subject: Re: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor (again) >Going tomorrow! :) > >Sigur Ros are pretty damn good on record - haven't seen them live yet - >check out their web site on http://www.sigur-ros.com/. Apparently they've >just swept the Icelandic music awards... At the London date we get a second >support, another Canadian outfit called Fly Pan Am, who have been described >as Godspeed jamming with White Light-era Velvets. More on them, and the >headliners, at the Constellation website, http://www.cstrecords.com/. > >-- Andy > >ObCD: Sigur Ros - _Von_ > >mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf >Of david hall >Sent: 02 April 2000 12:49 >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor (again) > > >Saw this lot in Glasgow last week - awesome. Supported by Sigur ros: a >mixture of Durutti Column, the Chameleons, Bjork...and Van der Graaf >Generator - check them out! > >Dave > From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Apr 2 11:09:47 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 16:09:47 +0100 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor (again) In-Reply-To: <000601bf9cb3$b071f2c0$6931883e@default> Message-ID: > > Fly Pan Am were okay-not brilliant. Take some dosh with you as there are > good number of CD's to be bought at the gig. > But I've probably got most of them already... :) I haven't got the Sigur Ros remix album, though, so I probably won't leave empty-handed! -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sun Apr 2 11:18:56 2000 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 10:18:56 -0500 Subject: Imaginos Sighting!.... Sort of... Message-ID: Found the exact picture! http://www.cliffhouse.com/history/ch2bw.htm Cool! Karen Kusic wrote: > > Yes! It still exists. I was there just about a year ago . . . > > http://www.sanfranciscomemories.com/cliff/house.html > > http://www.cliffhouse.com/ > > BOC Imaginos cover: > http://www.bocfanclub.com/TheStudio/Collect.html > (scroll to bottom) > > Great restaurant. Fabulous food and atmosphere. > > But! I have to say . . . when I went downstairs to the restroom, I was > totally spooked. Think there are rumours of the place being haunted . . > . > > Check it out if you get the chance. Take me with you! > > ;-) > > Karen > > Rich Hamel wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > Well, imagine my surprise when I went to an engagement party at my > > girlfriend's Aunt's house in Doylestown, PA last weekend when, in looking at > > the many pictured they have hung in the house, I was confronted by the "Cliff > > House", the castle on the cover of Imaginos. I always thought that was a > > doctored shot because it looks like the house is superimposed into the > > picture, but nope. The only doctoring is that the picture I saw was a sunny > > day with people standing on the beach near the foreground of the picture. The > > boat to the left is the same! Looks like they may have taken the shot I saw > > and "sinister-ized" it into the eerie picture on the cover. > > > > Does anyone know if the Cliff House still exists? My company is based near SF > > and if it's still around I'd like to check it out next time I make the > > cross-country flight. > > > > Rich > > -- > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > - Frank Zappa -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa From denis at D-RIDER.DE Sun Apr 2 11:41:40 2000 From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 17:41:40 +0200 Subject: HW: Harvey's birthday? Message-ID: Hi, does someone here perhaps know when Harvey was born? Just curious. thx&cu D+R -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah www.d-rider.de From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sun Apr 2 12:37:14 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 12:37:14 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Julia Set Dream: (An Evening of Spacerock) Message-ID: http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: SLOTERDIJK at webtv.net (SLOTERDIJK) Subject: Julia Set Dream: (An Evening of Spacerock) Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 11:19:36 -0500 (EST) Size: 1151 URL: From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Apr 2 19:20:28 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 16:20:28 -0700 Subject: HW Andy G'b on the case (a bit) Message-ID: Ah yes - the rumour mill - now what were the questions? Let me see..... 1. The entire Sundown gig that "It's So Easy" was taken from was almost released by EMI in 1984 and is still in the vault.>>>>>>>>> Yep!!! Almost released in '98 too!!! 2. The Warrior tour was recorded for a live LP but because of Lemmy's exit and M.Moorcock's displeasure with UA and Doug Smith over Kings Of Speed being included in Warrior rather than New World's Fair was not released.>>>>> ??????? 3. PXR5 was meant to have been a live LP from the Quark tour>>>>> ????? 4. There are enough unreleased tracks from both ASAM and QS&C to fill a CD i.e. High Rise, Robot etc.>>>>>>>>> ?????? 5. The Space Ritual was filmed and one of the band has it>>>>> Close - dunno about the whole thing being filmed but part of it defintely exists - who's got it? EMI, of course!! 6. Simon King rejoined the band in the early 80's but got the boot when he asked for a pay rise.>>>>>> ?????? 7. The BBC Sessions ho ho ho tell us the story!>>>>> You'll have to wait a few days for this as I'm on a deadline for sleeve notes to a Magma compilation I'm sorting out for a UK label. (It's not THAT much of a story so don't expect to be riveted) 8. Dave Brock still plays in a blues band and releases records under a different name>>>>>> You wish!!!! - ????????? 9. Lemmy rehearsed with the band for the Earth Ritual tour but walked out before the tour because Nik refused to apologise for giving him the boot in 75.>>>>>>>> ????????? 10. The 1982/3(?) baton incident - 'nuff said g'vnor>>>>>>>>> Sorry??????Hmmmm....... Being surprisingly little help in all of this, Andy G'b From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Apr 2 13:32:34 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 13:32:34 -0400 Subject: HW: Andy G'b on the case (a bit) Message-ID: >Ah yes - the rumour mill - now what were the questions? Let me see..... > >Being surprisingly little help in all of this, >Andy G'b Oh, c'mon Andy...Gee-eeezzz... Don't tell me you were completely taken in by this!! You forget to move your clocks ahead one hour also? Oh wait, that's only over here in the colonies, innit? :) Grakkl (FAA) Surprisingly little activity here on 4/1...but then it's a weekend. From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Apr 2 15:26:14 2000 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 20:26:14 +0100 Subject: HW Andy G'b on the case (a bit) Message-ID: >5. The Space Ritual was filmed and one of the band has it>>>>> >Close - dunno about the whole thing being filmed but part of it >defintely exists - who's got it? EMI, of course!! There's also the hour-or-so of BBC footage that the TOTP clip was taken from. From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Apr 2 15:59:29 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 20:59:29 +0100 Subject: HW Andy G'b on the case (a bit) Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 12:20 AM Subject: Re: HW Andy G'b on the case (a bit) > You'll have to wait a few days for this as I'm on a deadline for sleeve > notes to a Magma compilation I'm sorting out for a UK label. (It's not A Magma compilation. Now that sounds interesting. Got any details you can give out in advance? cheers jill From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Sun Apr 2 21:37:48 2000 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:37:48 BST Subject: HW Andy G'b on the case (a bit) Message-ID: >4. There are enough unreleased tracks from both ASAM and QS&C to fill a >CD i.e. High Rise, Robot etc.> >?????? This could well be true. Simon King said in an interview back then that the band were in the rare position of having plenty of material available for ASAM, so what happened to the tracks left off the album? Mick. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From flossbac at NLCI.COM Sun Apr 2 17:58:09 2000 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 16:58:09 -0500 Subject: HW Milton Keynes 11-10-99 track listing? Message-ID: Hey guys, can someone mail me the track listing for the 2-CD Milton Keynes set that was mailed out recently as part of the HW CDR tree? I could also use a track listing for the calvert/moorcock "Hawkwind Connection" CD. Thanks John Majka flossbac at nlci.com From mordru at FLITE.NET Sat Apr 1 17:41:07 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 17:41:07 -0500 Subject: Imaginos Sighting!.... Sort of... In-Reply-To: <38E75B21.733AFAD5@execpc.com> Message-ID: At 09:37 AM 4/2/00 -0500, Karen Kusic wrote: >Yes! It still exists. I was there just about a year ago . . . > >http://www.sanfranciscomemories.com/cliff/house.html > >http://www.cliffhouse.com/ > >BOC Imaginos cover: >http://www.bocfanclub.com/TheStudio/Collect.html >(scroll to bottom) > >Great restaurant. Fabulous food and atmosphere. > >But! I have to say . . . when I went downstairs to the restroom, I was >totally spooked. Think there are rumours of the place being haunted . . Looking at the page, the one on the imaginos cover looks more like the second cliff house, not the current one. The history page link on cliffhouse.com indicates there were 3, one destroyed in 1894 (and which would have been "period" for the Imaginos saga circa Magna of Illusion), another destroyed in 1906, and the current one. THe pics of the second one seem the most sinister, ethereal/horror tinged. This one: http://www.cliffhouse.com/history/ch2bw.htm ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From mordru at FLITE.NET Sat Apr 1 17:41:35 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 17:41:35 -0500 Subject: Imaginos Sighting!.... Sort of... In-Reply-To: <38E764E0.A3D984BB@execpc.com> Message-ID: At 10:18 AM 4/2/00 -0500, you wrote: >Found the exact picture! > >http://www.cliffhouse.com/history/ch2bw.htm That one was destroyed. The current one was built after that one was destroyed. ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Apr 3 01:41:40 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 22:41:40 -0700 Subject: HW : Magma thing Message-ID: Sunn 2-4 Jill S wrote: A Magma compilation. Now that sounds interesting. Got any details you can give out in advance? cheers jill ----------------------- Not yet. But in case you're salivating for rare or unreleased stuff, don't, 'coz it's not that sort of album. Andy G'b. From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Sun Apr 2 19:08:50 2000 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 19:08:50 -0400 Subject: tBS live at Living Room Message-ID: tBS are playing our first acoustic gig ever and our first gig in over a year and a half at the Living Room NYC on Friday April 14th at 11pm. We're doing a half dozen songs from Piece of Work and a few songs from every other album. The band is Deborah, David, Billy and me. Cities on Flame acoustic alone should be worth the price of admission. Oh yea, it's a free show ;-) From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sun Apr 2 19:18:48 2000 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 00:18:48 +0100 Subject: OFF <== // PGP, anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 12:50 02/04/00 +0100, you wrote: >Oh, sorry, I thought you meant PCP... > >-- Andy I use TCP on cuts, grazes, and as a gargle for sore throats - is that any use? ChrisW From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sun Apr 2 19:26:18 2000 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 00:26:18 +0100 Subject: HW Andy G'b on the case (a bit) In-Reply-To: <004201bf9cdd$f57bcce0$4231883e@jds> Message-ID: At 20:59 02/04/00 +0100, Jill wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: ANDREW GARIBALDI >> You'll have to wait a few days for this as I'm on a deadline for >sleeve >> notes to a Magma compilation I'm sorting out for a UK label. (It's not > >A Magma compilation. Now that sounds interesting. Got any details >you can give out in advance? >cheers >jill Which label? Is it stuff that had UK release before, or the harder to come by stuff... Tell me EVERYTHING!!!!!! ChrisW (Who has tons of Magma on vinyl, but doesn't get to play it!) From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun Apr 2 19:48:25 2000 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 19:48:25 -0400 Subject: off:Dark Sun In-Reply-To: <200003311423.RAA03024@pyyhe.saunalahti.fi> Message-ID: At 17.23 +0300 00-03-31, Miikka Wagner wrote: >Bad news! New album call Ice Ritual vinyl version will be late. Probably it >will be out mid April and I personaly really hope so! It will be every HW >fan must item! Except for those of us without LP turntables! What about a CD version! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Apr 2 21:32:58 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:32:58 -0400 Subject: OFF <== // PGP, anyone? In-Reply-To: <43.2d4a144.261887a5@aol.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 2 Apr 2000 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: => anyway, i cant recall if it had been there or here, but wasnt someone => inquiring about pgp encryption? => i've got it, havent used it meself yet (?), but this is from whence i => downloaded it. => => MIT distribution site for PGP A> => => sorry my links dont arrive "hot" these days....dunno why that would be, => but this is the place.... I'm not sure if it is still the case, but the version of PGP distributed at the MIT site is not as powerful as the "international" version of PGP. For one thing, the key lengths are not restricted in size, and it is not made purposefully incompatible with earlier versions of PGP. The International PGP Home Page can be found at http://www.pgpi.org/ You can download both the US and International variants of PGP from there. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Mon Apr 3 05:45:45 2000 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:45:45 +0100 Subject: OFF: Bad News Message-ID: > Hi! > > Bad news! New album call Ice Ritual vinyl version will be late. Bad News have got a new album out????!!! Cheers, Rich. Oh wow, remember seeing Bad News at Donnington (Monsters of Rock) some years ago, where can we get copies.... :))) Mark (Hasbeen) mark at esparto.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ END MESSAGE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon Apr 3 10:09:20 2000 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:09:20 -0400 Subject: Sad lad fantasies... :-) Message-ID: I always thought the song was 99 Dead Baboons > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Lockwood [SMTP:rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM] > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 6:05 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: OFF: Sad lad fantasies... :-) > > > > > > For me it's Carol Bayer Sager or that Nina woman with the song about > > balloons. > > Nena. Good armpit hair I seem to remember. > > Kim McAuliffe for me, every time. > > :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. > > ** Jean-Claude Van Damme should really be referred to as ** > ** "The Mussel From Brussels", as both his parents are shellfish.** From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Apr 3 10:27:14 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 15:27:14 +0100 Subject: Sad lad fantasies... and baboons. Message-ID: "...up, up and away, In my beautiful, my beautiful baboon..." :-) Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: Hall, Russell J To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 3:09 PM Subject: Re: Sad lad fantasies... :-) > I always thought the song was 99 Dead Baboons > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Richard Lockwood [SMTP:rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM] > > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 6:05 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > > Subject: OFF: Sad lad fantasies... :-) > > > > > > > > > > For me it's Carol Bayer Sager or that Nina woman with the song about > > > balloons. > > > > Nena. Good armpit hair I seem to remember. > > > > Kim McAuliffe for me, every time. > > > > :-) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Rich. > > > > ** Jean-Claude Van Damme should really be referred to as ** > > ** "The Mussel From Brussels", as both his parents are shellfish.** __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Apr 3 10:41:45 2000 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Zebulon Mysterioso) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:41:45 GMT Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor (again again) Message-ID: >From: david hall >Saw this lot in Glasgow last week - awesome. Supported by Sigur ros: >a mixture of Durutti Column, the Chameleons, Bjork...and Van der >Graaf Generator - check them out! Saw GYBE! in Belfast last Thursday, with Fly Pan Am and Sigur Ros. Fly Pan Am were pretty nice, if completeley uncommunicative, then came Sigur Ros. This is an incredible band, with keys and a bowed guitar (for most of the set) the music had a lush, engulfing nature and when the singer began..........oh the sweetness of the air! Such purity of tone, he has an amazing, beautiful voice which works perfectly with the music they're creating. I had a lump in my throat so many times. The Godspeed You Black Emperor! came on. There were 9 of them this time and the music was pretty much as it is on CD. They played the whole of the Slow Riot CD, with one track being extended to twice its original length (the voice sample was much longer than on the recording) and sections of the album, plus some stuff I haven't heard. they didn't play the one and three quarter hour set I was hoping for, but then I wasn't bargaining for being blown away by Sigur Ros. All told, the emotive power of Sigur Ros toppled GYBE! as the highlight for me (and for most of the others I spoke to after) whilst GYBE! were still excellent. A good indication of how good it all was is this: I left with 3 CD's. The A Silver Mt. Zion (a GYBE! offshoot) is very appealing, and Sigur Ros are 3 times better live than on CD. Strangely, the only way I can describe Sigur Ros is by thinking of Enya fronting Hawkwind playing the Theme to Get Carter. I'm still thankful to Andy Gilham for saying convincing things here and on his website about GYBE!.... Chris. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Apr 3 10:55:08 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:55:08 -0400 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor (again again) In-Reply-To: <20000403144146.68611.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, Zebulon Mysterioso wrote: => I'm still thankful to Andy Gilham for saying convincing things here and on => his website about GYBE!.... I also am thankful to Andy Gilham. I wouldn't have driven the 2+ hours down to see them in Winston-Salem, NC last year had it not been for the positive boosting he'd given them on BOC-L. The trip was well worth it!!! Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Apr 3 11:10:42 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 16:10:42 +0100 Subject: Sad lad fantasies... and baboons. In-Reply-To: Richard Lockwood's message of Mon, 3 Apr 2000 15:27:14 +0100 Message-ID: Richard Lockwood writes: > "...up, up and away, > In my beautiful, my beautiful baboon..." Let's not forget Baboonshka... FoFP From vincentr at COGNOS.COM Mon Apr 3 11:24:35 2000 From: vincentr at COGNOS.COM (Rob Vincent) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 11:24:35 -0400 Subject: Sad lad fantasies... and baboons. In-Reply-To: <200004031510.QAA08627@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Apr 2000, M Holmes wrote: > Richard Lockwood writes: > > > "...up, up and away, > > In my beautiful, my beautiful baboon..." > > Let's not forget Baboonshka... "You don't need pants for the victory dance/ 'cause Baboon's better than Weasel ..." Rob THV Elijah Snow : It's a strange world Jakita Wagner : Let's keep it that way Planetary #1 From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Apr 3 11:37:59 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 16:37:59 +0100 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor (again again) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Aw shucks! ;) Well, I'm off to see 'em again tonight meself! And now maybe you'll all check out Calexico's _The Black Light_! ;) -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 3 12:29:37 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 09:29:37 -0700 Subject: Imaginos Sighting!.... Sort of... Message-ID: On Sat, 1 Apr 2000 17:41:35 -0500, Andrew Apold wrote: >At 10:18 AM 4/2/00 -0500, you wrote: >>Found the exact picture! >> >>http://www.cliffhouse.com/history/ch2bw.htm > >That one was destroyed. The current one was built after >that one was destroyed. Andrew is correct. The current Cliff House in San Francisco is not nearly as cool looking as the Imaginos one. Check out the room full of vintage arcade games downstairs if you visit. Unfortunately, over the years, several extremely cool locations on the San Francisco Pacific coast have been lost to the ravages of time, neglect and greedy developers. The Sutro Baths were a gigantic indoor swimming pool overlooking the ocean that fell into neglect during the depression and were subsequently torn down. Fortunately, the Doggyhead overlooking the former Doggy Diner has been granted a five-year reprieve by the local board of supervisors. -Doug (Bay Area resident who lives in a building almost as old as the Imaginos Cliff House ...) ceres at sirius.com From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Mon Apr 3 14:58:57 2000 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 19:58:57 +0100 Subject: off:Dark Sun In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 00:48 03/04/00, you wrote: >At 17.23 +0300 00-03-31, Miikka Wagner wrote: >>Bad news! New album call Ice Ritual vinyl version will be late. Probably it >>will be out mid April and I personaly really hope so! It will be every HW >>fan must item! > >Except for those of us without LP turntables! What about a CD version! > >Cheers, >Carl Buy a turntable: you know it makes sense! ChrisW ObLP: Eberhard Weber - Chorus "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Mon Apr 3 15:28:48 2000 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 20:28:48 +0100 Subject: admin Message-ID: Hi, I'm going away for a short while and would like to cancel my subscription, can someone remind me how to do it. Also when I get back I'd obviously like to sign back with you guys so how do I do that again. Cheers Chaps missing you already Doc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Mon Apr 3 16:34:36 2000 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 21:34:36 +0100 Subject: HW Andy G'b - Dave Brock & his Baton 1982-3 In-Reply-To: <38E7D5BC.165@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: Just thought you'd like to know that I clearly remember the 'Dave Brock and his baton',bit! (nuff said guvnor). In 1982/3 I accidentally stumbled on a column in the London Evening Standard about a rock musician appearing in court after being arrested in possesion of dangerous weapon. Apparently Mr David Brock. aged 39 ,was stopped by police in a London street whilst in possesion of a 4ft baton, and when questioned he claimed that he possesed it purely for self defence! He subsequently appeared at Marylebone Magistrates Court and was fined. This is roughly the story as I remember. It quite surprised me because I had always had this vision of DB being a very level headed,laid back sort of guy. Perhaps if Dave Brock reads this,he could verify it and perhaps enlighten us as to his motives at the time.........(perhaps he was on his way to settle a grievance with Doug Smith?????) Mel V. From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 3 17:49:52 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 22:49:52 +0100 Subject: HW Andy G'b - Dave Brock & his Baton 1982-3 Message-ID: Yup, this is the story that I read in Sounds at the time...I've still got the cutting somewhere. He was probably on the way to sort out some bootleggers. Think on that the next time ye peruse your tape collections. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Melvyn Vincent To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 03 April 2000 21:35 Subject: Re: HW Andy G'b - Dave Brock & his Baton 1982-3 >Just thought you'd like to know that I clearly remember the 'Dave Brock and >his baton',bit! (nuff said guvnor). >In 1982/3 I accidentally stumbled on a column in the London Evening >Standard about a rock musician appearing in court after being arrested in >possesion of dangerous weapon. Apparently Mr David Brock. aged 39 ,was >stopped by police in a London street whilst in possesion of a 4ft baton, >and when questioned he claimed that he possesed it purely for self defence! >He subsequently appeared at Marylebone Magistrates Court and was fined. >This is roughly the story as I remember. It quite surprised me because I >had always had this vision of DB being a very level headed,laid back sort >of guy. > > >Perhaps if Dave Brock reads this,he could verify it and perhaps enlighten >us as to his motives at the time.........(perhaps he was on his way to >settle a grievance with Doug Smith?????) > >Mel V. > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 3 17:51:03 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 22:51:03 +0100 Subject: HW Andy G'b - Dave Brock & his Baton 1982-3 Message-ID: Or may be it was "baton twirling on sunday"!! Dave -----Original Message----- From: Melvyn Vincent To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 03 April 2000 21:35 Subject: Re: HW Andy G'b - Dave Brock & his Baton 1982-3 >Just thought you'd like to know that I clearly remember the 'Dave Brock and >his baton',bit! (nuff said guvnor). >In 1982/3 I accidentally stumbled on a column in the London Evening >Standard about a rock musician appearing in court after being arrested in >possesion of dangerous weapon. Apparently Mr David Brock. aged 39 ,was >stopped by police in a London street whilst in possesion of a 4ft baton, >and when questioned he claimed that he possesed it purely for self defence! >He subsequently appeared at Marylebone Magistrates Court and was fined. >This is roughly the story as I remember. It quite surprised me because I >had always had this vision of DB being a very level headed,laid back sort >of guy. > > >Perhaps if Dave Brock reads this,he could verify it and perhaps enlighten >us as to his motives at the time.........(perhaps he was on his way to >settle a grievance with Doug Smith?????) > >Mel V. > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 3 17:52:26 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 22:52:26 +0100 Subject: OFF:Julian Cope Message-ID: Anyone make the Julian Cope event? Were Ashra Tempel any good? Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tclark at PETRONET.NET Mon Apr 3 19:58:08 2000 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 18:58:08 -0500 Subject: HW: Who's gonna win the war Message-ID: Perhaps this is old news, but there's a downloadable version of the song at this Simon King web site. His drumming on this cut seems to rock a bit more than Ginger Baker's version. http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/simonking.html Also available are soundclips of other HW and etc. tunes..... http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/whosgonna.mp3 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Mon Apr 3 21:48:46 2000 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 20:48:46 -0500 Subject: HW: [Fwd: Woronzow news] Message-ID: Ade Shaw's label! :-) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Woronzow news Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 18:24:00 +0100 From: Woronzow Records To: "'Woronzow Records'" WORONZOW NEWS Hi there. Just a brief update to keep you all abreast of what's been going on recently at Woronzow HQ. As you may or may not know, Woronzow has currently got a nice little licence deal going on with the recently formed New York label Rubric, whereby they release in the USA most of the albums we issue in Europe. As a result of this deal, The Frond, The Alchemysts and The Lucky Bishops were all flown over to Austin, Texas for the annual 'South By Southwest' music convention, where Rubric had booked a night at The Atomic Caf? to showcase their acts. Joe Propatire flew down from Providence to drum for us. (You'll be glad to learn that Andy Ward is much better, and should be bashing for us again soon).Simeon drove over from his home in Alabama, and joined the Alchemysts on stage, and The Green Pajamas flew in from Seattle. So for six nights this disparate bunch took up residence at the La Quinta Motel, and much fun was had by all. For some reason, Dave and Kenny, the brains behind Rubric, stayed in a different hotel. On his first night in Texas, Paul of The Alchemysts was carried unconscious to his bed (12 pints and some unfeasibly strong grass doing their insidious worst), and once Ade, Jon Alchemyst and I had cleared his nasal passages of vomit, he apparently slept well! Start as you mean to continue. The next night, during our pre-bed party, Richard of The Bishops, who had been overindulging outrageously and had been consequently sitting in a catatonic stupor, suddenly rose unsteadily to his feet. 'I'm totally minced!' he announced in stentorian tones before collapsing in a heap. On the Thursday, we all gathered to perform in the Atomic Caf?. There was a healthy crowd in to see the festivities, including a few of our old mates. Jello Biafra, Stu Pope and Vic, Mary Lou Lord. It was a lovely atmosphere, marred only by the soundcrew, whose late appearance meant that nobody got a soundcheck, and thus the sound was really below par, and also by the fact that the Hammond organ, hired at great expense for The Bishops,(advertised by The Atomic Caf? as The Lucky Bis Hops) didn't work. None the less, it was a great night, all the bands played well and the crowd loved it. On the Saturday for the Sebadoh gig as 'special guests'. We opened the show in front of about 3,000 people at The Austin Music Hall and went down very well, despite a few murmurs of disappointment that the 'special guests' weren't really that special. There had been rumours going round that it was going to be Neil Young, so even we were disappointed when it turned out to be us! While we were in Austin we were able to take in some of the 1,000 bands performing during the five days of SXSW. Mary Lou was great. I liked Delta 72 but no one else in our party seemed to. Paul Jon and Mat went to The Alternative Tentacles gig and came away visibly shaken by Pachenko (I think) whose massive tattooed lead singer was trying to pick fights with the audience. Ade and I managed to see the top of Roger McGuinn's head. He was playing in the tiny bar of the university (literally hundreds of people couldn't get in, including us), while upstairs in the main hall a gospel choir were performing for about fifty people. For us, the outstanding act was definitely 'The Dung Beatles', an American Beatles tribute band in all the gear, speaking with faux-Liverpudlian accents, who had slightly altered every song to include some kind of scatalogical reference. So we had 'Eight Shits A Week', 'From Meat To Poo', 'Hard Day's Shite', 'She's Got A Thicket To Wipe'. Very silly, but actually very funny. Perhaps you had to be there. On the Monday we bid farewell to Simeon and The Pajamas, and flew up to New York, to do a gig at CBGBs. We booked into a nice hotel in Soho, just round the corner from the gig and the next night we reconvened at the venue, with the welcome addition of Tom Rapp who played the usual mesmeric set with the able assistance of Tim from Stonebreath and the magic harp of Prydwyn. This time The Bishop's organ worked, and they played an absolute stormer, though their soundcheck, which included their version of The Grandstand Theme was even better! The Alchemysts were on fire and we played really well too. I think the whole thing was broadcast over the net, so maybe you can track it down somehow. The show was wound up by Kenny Rubric's own band, 'Aytobach Criser'. No, that's not a misprint, it's apparently how a Hungarian acquaintance of theirs says 'Paperback Writer'! What?! All in all a great little jaunt. Next up are a few gigs in Germany with the three bands. We play Gelsenkirchen Kaue on the 11th of May, Bielefeld Forum on the 12th, and finally The Swamp Room Festival near Hannover on the 13th. Before that, though, we'll be back at The Walthamstow Standard on Sunday May the 7th (see enclosed flier). We're going to decide who plays first by tossing a coin, so make sure you get there on time. Also, there are some plans afoot for Country Joe MacDonald to tour Europe and The UK with The Bevis Frond doing their famous Fish impersonation. If it all comes together, that should happen around September/October. Ade and I are also working hard to get gigs in the UK for The Lucky Bishops and The Alchemysts, together or separately. If you know anywhere that fancies having their ceiling blown off, let us know and we'll follow it up.(the info, not the ceiling.) On the recording front, we're currently putting the finishing touches to 'Acid Jam 2', which we thought was done, but as a result of Ade unearthing an old and revered friend, we're going to attempt to add to it. After the last Standard gig in January, Paul Simmons and I were musing on what fun it would be to do a kind of heavy late 60s/Monster Magnet record. We came up with a stack of typical titles, and then jammed out some songs. Joe Prop was still in England, so we went into the studio and laid down an albums worth of heavy stuff which we've entitled 'Fed To Your Head'. That should be out later this year. Following the success of The Alchemysts And Simeon CD (being re-pressed as I write), The Alchies have got their own new album virtually ready. It's called 'Zero Zen', and it's a killer. We're just concluding a deal to issue the debut album by an Australian band called 'The First Third'. We're really excited by this one. It's a really odd mixture of sounds. Very melodic with nods towards The Beach Boys, John Fahey, Neutral Milk Hotel and Big Star, but without sounding like any of them. I'll be recording a new Bevis album in a few weeks time. And we're also planning to put out new albums by a legendary figure (with the help of The Lucky Bishops), and an equally legendary band, but more about those when and if they happen. So, that's about it for the time being. If you need information on anything don't hesitate to contact us. We're anxious to broaden our mail order/info list, so if you know anyone who might be interested, tell them to contact us so we can add their names to our database. Hope to see you at The Standard on May 7th. All the best, Nick. Woronzow Records Woronzow website - www.woronzow.co.uk From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Apr 3 22:49:30 2000 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 22:49:30 -0400 Subject: tBS live at Living Room Message-ID: Albert Bouchard wrote: > tBS are playing our first acoustic gig ever and our first gig in over a > year and a half at the Living Room NYC on Friday April 14th at 11pm. The address is 84 Stanton Street and the phone number is 212-533-7237 From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Mon Apr 3 23:18:13 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 23:18:13 EDT Subject: 'We Are Motorhead'...yes, you certainly are! Message-ID: check it out: http://www.imotorhead.com/ rmayo From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Apr 4 03:29:17 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:29:17 +1000 Subject: HW: Who's gonna win the war Message-ID: At 06:58 PM 4/3/00 -0500, Tom Clark wrote: >Perhaps this is old news, but there's a downloadable version of the song at >this Simon King web site. His drumming on this cut seems to rock a bit more >than Ginger Baker's version. The hint of what might have been, from the live '79 version of Motorway City, makes me wish so hard that he'd stuck it out to record on 'Levitation'... (sticking hos nose in again) -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 4 05:48:33 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 10:48:33 +0100 Subject: off:Dark Sun In-Reply-To: Chris Warburton's message of Mon, 3 Apr 2000 19:58:57 +0100 Message-ID: Chris Warburton writes: > At 00:48 03/04/00, you wrote: > >At 17.23 +0300 00-03-31, Miikka Wagner wrote: > >>Bad news! New album call Ice Ritual vinyl version will be late. Probably it > >>will be out mid April and I personaly really hope so! It will be every HW > >>fan must item! > > > >Except for those of us without LP turntables! What about a CD version! > > > >Cheers, > >Carl > > Buy a turntable: you know it makes sense! The advantage of a turntable is that you can get one with the special "Tipper" feature which enables you to play it backwards and thus hear those satanic messages in the way that God intended. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 4 05:51:35 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 10:51:35 +0100 Subject: HW Andy G'b - Dave Brock & his Baton 1982-3 In-Reply-To: Melvyn Vincent's message of Mon, 3 Apr 2000 21:34:36 +0100 Message-ID: Melvyn Vincent writes: > Just thought you'd like to know that I clearly remember the 'Dave > Brock and his baton',bit! (nuff said guvnor). In 1982/3 I > accidentally stumbled on a column in the London Evening Standard about > a rock musician appearing in court after being arrested in possesion > of dangerous weapon. Apparently Mr David Brock. aged 39 ,was stopped > by police in a London street whilst in possesion of a 4ft baton, and > when questioned he claimed that he possesed it purely for self > defence! He subsequently appeared at Marylebone Magistrates Court and > was fined. This is roughly the story as I remember. It quite > surprised me because I had always had this vision of DB being a very > level headed,laid back sort of guy. Even level-headed laidback sorts of people sometimes need to defend themselves. I expect that the arresting policemen were carrying batons to do precisely the same thing. > Mel V. FoFP From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Apr 4 06:43:59 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 06:43:59 EDT Subject: HW: Who's gonna win the war Message-ID: In a message dated 4/4/00 3:29:36 AM, lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM writes: << Simon King web site. >> address puh-leeze? "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Apr 4 06:45:42 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 06:45:42 EDT Subject: HW: Who's gonna win the war Message-ID: In a message dated 4/3/00 7:58:27 PM, tclark at PETRONET.NET writes: << http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/simonking.html >> oh, okay. thanks "<>" From Bert.Hulshoff at NN.DHV.NL Tue Apr 4 06:46:51 2000 From: Bert.Hulshoff at NN.DHV.NL (Bert.Hulshoff at NN.DHV.NL) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 12:46:51 +0200 Subject: HW: Who's gonna win the war Message-ID: > Perhaps this is old news, but there's a downloadable version of the song > at this Simon King web site.? > > http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/simonking.html > > Also available are soundclips of other HW and etc. tunes..... > > http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/hawkwind/whosgonna.mp3 > > > > ---------- > From: DASLUD at AOL.COM[SMTP:DASLUD at AOL.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 12:43 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: HW: Who's gonna win the war > > In a message dated 4/4/00 3:29:36 AM, lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM writes: > > << Simon King web site. >> > > address puh-leeze? > > "<>" > > From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Tue Apr 4 09:08:59 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 14:08:59 +0100 Subject: HW: The Hawkwind Connection Message-ID: In case no-one else posted; Robert Calvert demos 1976 & 1992 The Greenfly & The Rose Lord Of The Hornets Revenge Fascism & Futurism Bugatti Isadora Messenger & Morpheus / Solstice Stranger In A Strange Land Steppenwolf Michael Moorcock demos 1992 Another Quiet Day In Auschwitz Starcruiser Dodgem Dude Brothel In Rosenstrasse Good Girl, Bad Girl Time Centre My New Knife Peter The Vulture Intro Mental Harlequin The Hawkwind Shop is at http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk For all your HW and spacerock necessities From micci at SCI.FI Tue Apr 4 10:20:48 2000 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:20:48 +0300 Subject: off:Dark Sun Message-ID: >At 17.23 +0300 00-03-31, Miikka Wagner wrote: >>Bad news! New album call Ice Ritual vinyl version will be late. Probably it >>will be out mid April and I personaly really hope so! It will be every HW >>fan must item! > >Except for those of us without LP turntables! What about a CD version! Yes, there will be CD version too, different cover I belive, maybe diff. songs too, not sure, must check. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From MPower at EXCHANGE.ML.COM Tue Apr 4 11:20:07 2000 From: MPower at EXCHANGE.ML.COM (Power, Marc (ETS - Equity Development Support)) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 11:20:07 -0400 Subject: WEEDSPORT featuring BORN to GO Message-ID: > As they used to say on the radio in Syracuse year after year, "You > know it's summer when they're [space] rockin' at Weedsport." Hah! BORN to GO slayed the Syracuse WOLF INN in 97 on the way to Strange Daze by exposing them to our unshielded SpaceRock transmissions and we SpaceRocked WEEDSPORT in 98. Nary a SpaceRock fan at either event! We converted a ton of Metalheads though. they had never heard anything like it! we even got a few of them to show up at Strange Daze. It blew their rather unsuspecting minds! There has been talk of doing both again this year. If we thought that there were gonna be a bunch of hardcore SpaceRocking fans there, we might be more likely to do it.... I wouldn't want the experience of a bunch o' folk thinking that BORN to GO invented SpaceRock to happen again. It was fun, but it just ain't right! Space is One Trip! Marc. P.S. Get your BORN to GO SpaceRock Radio fix (including NEW TOONZ) at: And the usual Rollicking Robot SpaceRock Extravaganza at: remember to check out the new web site at IUMA we get about $0.004 per click! slightly more for download, Make us rich! (so far we made $0.43 this month) From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Apr 4 11:44:21 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 11:44:21 EDT Subject: WEEDSPORT featuring BORN to GO In-Reply-To: <4FFB381C0259D21180080001FA7EFE94EFD2AF@ewfd37.exchange.ml.com> Message-ID: On 4 Apr 00, at 11:20, Power, Marc (ETS - Equity Development Sup wrote: > > As they used to say on the radio in Syracuse year after year, "You > > know it's summer when they're [space] rockin' at Weedsport." > > Hah! BORN to GO slayed the Syracuse WOLF INN in 97 on the way to Damn! Wish I'd heard about the gig, as I'd have been there for sure. BTW, I was part of BOC-L at the time. Too bad nobody posted the info... > Strange Daze by exposing them to our unshielded SpaceRock > transmissions and we SpaceRocked WEEDSPORT in 98. > Weedsport in '98? Was that one of the Nikstock gigs? Again, I would have gone had I known... > > There has been talk of doing both again this year. If we thought that > there were gonna be a bunch of hardcore SpaceRocking fans there, we > might be more likely to do it.... > Please do--and play more gigs in upstate NY... theo From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Apr 4 11:54:38 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 01:54:38 +1000 Subject: HW Andy G'b - Dave Brock & his Baton 1982-3 Message-ID: At 10:51 AM 4/4/00 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >Melvyn Vincent writes: > >> Just thought you'd like to know that I clearly remember the 'Dave >> Brock and his baton',bit! (nuff said guvnor). In 1982/3 I >> accidentally stumbled on a column in the London Evening Standard about >> a rock musician appearing in court after being arrested in possesion >> of dangerous weapon. Apparently Mr David Brock. aged 39 ,was stopped >> by police in a London street whilst in possesion of a 4ft baton, and >> when questioned he claimed that he possesed it purely for self >> defence! He subsequently appeared at Marylebone Magistrates Court and >> was fined. This is roughly the story as I remember. It quite >> surprised me because I had always had this vision of DB being a very >> level headed,laid back sort of guy. > >Even level-headed laidback sorts of people sometimes need to defend >themselves. I expect that the arresting policemen were carrying batons >to do precisely the same thing. Yes, you see Batons are the UK equivalent to handguns. don't what ever you do get into an argument with somone from the National Baton Association. This reminded me of an old Australian press clipping about Bob. I dug it out. >From RAM (Rock Australia Magazine) November 18, 1977: (Photo of Calvert in Lawrence of Arabia outfit) "At a HAWKWIND concert in London this week, bouncers felt compelled to use excessive violence when restraining the sci-fi rock group's fans. In turn, vocalist Bob Calvert threatened the bemuscled morons with a microphone stand to save his followers from serious injury. (See, the hippie dream still lives!)" -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Apr 4 11:56:37 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 01:56:37 +1000 Subject: HW: The Hawkwind Connection Message-ID: >Michael Moorcock demos 1992 >Another Quiet Day In Auschwitz >Starcruiser >Dodgem Dude >Brothel In Rosenstrasse >Good Girl, Bad Girl >Time Centre >My New Knife >Peter The Vulture >Intro Mental >Harlequin 1992? Those songs (or songs which match their description) were all on the tape he sent me in about 1984. -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Apr 4 11:10:57 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 11:10:57 -0400 Subject: HW: The Hawkwind Connection Message-ID: >>Michael Moorcock demos 1992 >>Another Quiet Day In Auschwitz >>Starcruiser >>Dodgem Dude >>Brothel In Rosenstrasse >>Good Girl, Bad Girl >>Time Centre >>My New Knife >>Peter The Vulture >>Intro Mental >>Harlequin > >1992? Those songs (or songs which match their description) were all on the >tape he sent me in about 1984. Yeah, I knew immediately by listening to these things that '1992' was total crap. We should all know by now (still don't understand how I could have believed the given date on THA without question!) that HW and accurate liner notes should never appear in the same sentence. A Lord of Lihgt... :) Grakkl (FAA) From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Tue Apr 4 13:24:20 2000 From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 13:24:20 -0400 Subject: HW Andy G'b - Dave Brock & his Baton 1982-3 Message-ID: Right on, Mike. It is a sad state that considers the desire to be safe offensive or radical. >Melvyn Vincent writes: > >> Just thought you'd like to know that I clearly remember the 'Dave >> Brock and his baton',bit! (nuff said guvnor). In 1982/3 I >> accidentally stumbled on a column in the London Evening Standard about >> a rock musician appearing in court after being arrested in possesion >> of dangerous weapon. Apparently Mr David Brock. aged 39 ,was stopped >> by police in a London street whilst in possesion of a 4ft baton, and >> when questioned he claimed that he possesed it purely for self >> defence! He subsequently appeared at Marylebone Magistrates Court and >> was fined. This is roughly the story as I remember. It quite >> surprised me because I had always had this vision of DB being a very >> level headed,laid back sort of guy. > >Even level-headed laidback sorts of people sometimes need to defend >themselves. I expect that the arresting policemen were carrying batons >to do precisely the same thing. > >> Mel V. > >FoFP From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Apr 4 14:36:09 2000 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 19:36:09 +0100 Subject: off:Dark Sun Message-ID: >The advantage of a turntable is that you can get one with the special >"Tipper" feature which enables you to play it backwards and thus hear >those satanic messages in the way that God intended. > >FoFP By 'God' I assume you mean the one true Lord, Satan. Nick From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Apr 4 15:25:01 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 20:25:01 +0100 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor (again again) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Another fine show, of course - serious delay - Irish Sea ferry cancelled... Godspeed You Black Emperor! now have a website, which is at this URL: http://www.brainwashed.com/godspeed/ -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Tue Apr 4 17:11:51 2000 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:11:51 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: HW saddos In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000330132651.0097b100@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 01:26:51PM -0800, Doug Pearson wrote: > OK, this has gone off-topic long enough ;^) ... > > On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:55:35 +0100, Nick Lee wrote: > >DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > >>goth woman from Sisters Of Mercy, with > > > >Now playing bass for the Damned, in case anyone's at all interested. > > That would be Patricia Morrison, who got her start in the girl-fronted LA > punk band the Bags (one of whom was later in, I think, the Go-Go's). This has got to be a different Bags than the ones who did _Rock Starve_, right? I can't imagine them as being fronted by anything other than those two ugly guitarists. Steve From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Apr 4 18:17:21 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 15:17:21 -0700 Subject: OFF: Bags x 2 (was Re: HW saddos) Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:11:51 -0400, Stephen Swann wrote: >On Thu, Mar 30, 2000 at 01:26:51PM -0800, Doug Pearson wrote: >> On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:55:35 +0100, Nick Lee wrote: >> >DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: >> >>goth woman from Sisters Of Mercy, with >> > >> >Now playing bass for the Damned, in case anyone's at all interested. >> >> That would be Patricia Morrison, who got her start in the girl-fronted LA >> punk band the Bags (one of whom was later in, I think, the Go-Go's). > >This has got to be a different Bags than the ones who did _Rock Starve_, >right? I can't imagine them as being fronted by anything other than >those two ugly guitarists. Good lord! I can't believe that anyone remembers that band (the mid/late-80s all-male Bags from Boston, not the late-70s mostly-female LA band). Although given the locale I wouldn't be surprised if mr. DASLUD knew (of?) 'em. Yes, they were the "other" Bags ... thanks for reminding me of one of the "mediocre underground rock bands of the 80s" ... Painted Willie (who I saw open for the Butthole Surfers back in 86 or so), anyone? -Doug ceres at sirius.com From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Apr 4 18:45:20 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:45:20 +0100 Subject: HW Andy G'b - Dave Brock & his Baton 1982-3 Message-ID: Wasn't this from 1976? David -----Original Message----- From: Tim Gadd To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 04 April 2000 16:55 Subject: Re: HW Andy G'b - Dave Brock & his Baton 1982-3 >At 10:51 AM 4/4/00 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >>Melvyn Vincent writes: >> >>> Just thought you'd like to know that I clearly remember the 'Dave >>> Brock and his baton',bit! (nuff said guvnor). In 1982/3 I >>> accidentally stumbled on a column in the London Evening Standard about >>> a rock musician appearing in court after being arrested in possesion >>> of dangerous weapon. Apparently Mr David Brock. aged 39 ,was stopped >>> by police in a London street whilst in possesion of a 4ft baton, and >>> when questioned he claimed that he possesed it purely for self >>> defence! He subsequently appeared at Marylebone Magistrates Court and >>> was fined. This is roughly the story as I remember. It quite >>> surprised me because I had always had this vision of DB being a very >>> level headed,laid back sort of guy. >> >>Even level-headed laidback sorts of people sometimes need to defend >>themselves. I expect that the arresting policemen were carrying batons >>to do precisely the same thing. > > >Yes, you see Batons are the UK equivalent to handguns. don't what ever you >do get into an argument with somone from the National Baton Association. > >This reminded me of an old Australian press clipping about Bob. I dug it out. > >>From RAM (Rock Australia Magazine) November 18, 1977: > >(Photo of Calvert in Lawrence of Arabia outfit) > >"At a HAWKWIND concert in London this week, bouncers felt compelled to use >excessive violence when restraining the sci-fi rock group's fans. In turn, >vocalist Bob Calvert threatened the bemuscled morons with a microphone stand >to save his followers from serious injury. (See, the hippie dream still lives!)" > >-- >Tim Gadd >Hobart, Tasmania > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Apr 4 18:48:40 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 23:48:40 +0100 Subject: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor (again again) Message-ID: Thanks for this, I'll add it to my favourites. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Andy Gilham To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 04 April 2000 20:25 Subject: Re: OFF: God Speed You Black Emperor (again again) >Another fine show, of course - serious delay - Irish Sea ferry cancelled... > >Godspeed You Black Emperor! now have a website, which is at this URL: > >http://www.brainwashed.com/godspeed/ > >-- Andy > >mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Tue Apr 4 18:57:19 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 18:57:19 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: live at Living Room Message-ID: >Albert Bouchard wrote: > >> tBS are playing our first acoustic gig ever and our first gig in over a >> year and a half at the Living Room NYC on Friday April 14th at 11pm. > >The address is 84 Stanton Street and the phone number is 212-533-7237 Sounds like fun. Unfortunately, NYC's beyond my concert range and I can't afford to spend the weekend down there sightseeing (just paid my taxes...) Anybody from BOC-L going to be there to give an audience perspective of the gig? What's the word on Peter? Will he be a part of tBS's future, or has he decided to do his own thing? I know he wasn't on PoW much, and it still has some of my favorite Surgeons tunes. So, if you guys are going to keep making music as a 4 piece (with guests) it'll be cool to see how that sound evolves. Any hints on whether any of these acoustic tunes will find their way to a live album? ;-) Brian ----- Brian Halligan mailto:blackblade at bhalligan.com http://www.bhalligan.com/ From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Apr 4 19:01:13 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:01:13 +0100 Subject: HW Andy G'b - Dave Brock & his Baton 1982-3 Message-ID: The Bob Calvert incident was from 76....Manchester I think Dave -----Original Message----- From: david hall To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 04 April 2000 23:53 Subject: Re: HW Andy G'b - Dave Brock & his Baton 1982-3 >Wasn't this from 1976? > >David >-----Original Message----- >From: Tim Gadd >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Date: 04 April 2000 16:55 >Subject: Re: HW Andy G'b - Dave Brock & his Baton 1982-3 > > >>At 10:51 AM 4/4/00 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >>>Melvyn Vincent writes: >>> >>>> Just thought you'd like to know that I clearly remember the 'Dave >>>> Brock and his baton',bit! (nuff said guvnor). In 1982/3 I >>>> accidentally stumbled on a column in the London Evening Standard about >>>> a rock musician appearing in court after being arrested in possesion >>>> of dangerous weapon. Apparently Mr David Brock. aged 39 ,was stopped >>>> by police in a London street whilst in possesion of a 4ft baton, and >>>> when questioned he claimed that he possesed it purely for self >>>> defence! He subsequently appeared at Marylebone Magistrates Court and >>>> was fined. This is roughly the story as I remember. It quite >>>> surprised me because I had always had this vision of DB being a very >>>> level headed,laid back sort of guy. >>> >>>Even level-headed laidback sorts of people sometimes need to defend >>>themselves. I expect that the arresting policemen were carrying batons >>>to do precisely the same thing. >> >> >>Yes, you see Batons are the UK equivalent to handguns. don't what ever you >>do get into an argument with somone from the National Baton Association. >> >>This reminded me of an old Australian press clipping about Bob. I dug it >out. >> >>>From RAM (Rock Australia Magazine) November 18, 1977: >> >>(Photo of Calvert in Lawrence of Arabia outfit) >> >>"At a HAWKWIND concert in London this week, bouncers felt compelled to use >>excessive violence when restraining the sci-fi rock group's fans. In turn, >>vocalist Bob Calvert threatened the bemuscled morons with a microphone >stand >>to save his followers from serious injury. (See, the hippie dream still >lives!)" >> >>-- >>Tim Gadd >>Hobart, Tasmania >> > From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Tue Apr 4 19:33:50 2000 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 19:33:50 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bags x 2 (was Re: HW saddos) In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000404151721.0098ad00@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 03:17:21PM -0700, Doug Pearson wrote: > On Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:11:51 -0400, Stephen Swann wrote: > >This has got to be a different Bags than the ones who did _Rock Starve_, > >right? I can't imagine them as being fronted by anything other than > >those two ugly guitarists. > > Good lord! I can't believe that anyone remembers that band (the > mid/late-80s all-male Bags from Boston, not the late-70s mostly-female LA > band). Although given the locale I wouldn't be surprised if mr. DASLUD > knew (of?) 'em. Yes, they were the "other" Bags ... thanks for reminding > me of one of the "mediocre underground rock bands of the 80s" ... Painted > Willie (who I saw open for the Butthole Surfers back in 86 or so), anyone? I was going to college in Boston during the late 80's. I saw the Bags a few times, usually as the opener for bands that were more "popular" but not nearly as fun as they were. Their album wasn't so hot, but they kicked ass live - they had a *monster* guitar sound that made me want to get up and jump around the room. But the Straw Dogs were my favorites from that music scene. I tried to see every show they did. I remember going to see the 'Dogs as part of a $5 three-fer show at the Rat one time, when the power went out during a set by "9lb. Hammer". There they were, this ripping speed metal band, jamming away like mad on their guitars and shredding the ears of everybody in the place. Then suddenly there was no power, and they were just a bunch of long haired doofy looking guys making these little "ching ching ching" sounds on their guitar strings. Fortunately, they *realized* how silly this looked, so the 'Hammer vocalist (a tall guy with one of the deepest/loudest voices I've ever heard), did a stand up comedy routine while the engineers reset the power. He was genuinely hysterical, too. What a great afternoon that was. I miss Boston. Steve swann at plutonia.com From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Apr 4 19:47:38 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:47:38 +0100 Subject: off:Dark Sun Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Lee To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 7:36 PM Subject: Re: off:Dark Sun > >The advantage of a turntable is that you can get one with the special > >"Tipper" feature which enables you to play it backwards and thus hear > >those satanic messages in the way that God intended. > > > >FoFP > > By 'God' I assume you mean the one true Lord, Satan. > Nick It's the Lord of Light - Lucifer. jill ObNewCD - Orange Goblin - Motorhead meets Hawkwind - why have these guys never played at Pentrich! From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Apr 4 19:45:15 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 16:45:15 -0700 Subject: OFF: Bags x 2 (was Re: HW saddos) Message-ID: Yeah, I'll definitely give you that the Bags (Boston version, I'm too young for the LA one!) were a *fun* live band (even if their album was fairly dull ... didn't they have a followup to 'Rock Starve', too?). Without being DeadMilkmen-goofy, which gets annoying quickly for me. On Tue, 4 Apr 2000 19:33:50 -0400, Stephen Swann wrote: >I remember going to see the 'Dogs as part of a $5 three-fer show at >the Rat one time, when the power went out during a set by >"9lb. Hammer". There they were, this ripping speed metal band, >jamming away like mad on their guitars and shredding the ears of >everybody in the place. And you manage to bring up *another* duplicated band name! "Nine Pound Hammer" (not sure whether they used abbreviation/numeral) were a pretty decent early-90s garage/punk band who had a few releases on Crypt records, who I'm quite certain never played speed metal in Boston (although I suppose I could be wrong). Then, two of them had the bright idea that forming a band with their girlfriends showing off in front would be much more conducive to "hitting the big time". They were entirely correct, as you can see by the success of (whether you like 'em or not) Nashville Pussy, said new spinoff band. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Tue Apr 4 21:06:58 2000 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 20:06:58 -0500 Subject: OFF: Bags x 2 (was Re: HW saddos) Message-ID: Stephen Swann wrote: > On Tue, Apr 04, 2000 at 03:17:21PM -0700, Doug Pearson wrote: > > On Tue, 4 Apr 2000 17:11:51 -0400, Stephen Swann wrote: > > >This has got to be a different Bags than the ones who did _Rock Starve_, > > >right? I can't imagine them as being fronted by anything other than > > >those two ugly guitarists. > > > > Good lord! I can't believe that anyone remembers that band (the > > mid/late-80s all-male Bags from Boston, not the late-70s mostly-female LA > > band). Although given the locale I wouldn't be surprised if mr. DASLUD > > knew (of?) 'em. Yes, they were the "other" Bags ... thanks for reminding > > me of one of the "mediocre underground rock bands of the 80s" ... Painted > > Willie (who I saw open for the Butthole Surfers back in 86 or so), anyone? > > I was going to college in Boston during the late 80's. I saw the Bags > a few times, usually as the opener for bands that were more "popular" > but not nearly as fun as they were. Their album wasn't so hot, but > they kicked ass live - they had a *monster* guitar sound that made me > want to get up and jump around the room. But the Straw Dogs were my > favorites from that music scene. I tried to see every show they did. > > I remember going to see the 'Dogs as part of a $5 three-fer show at > the Rat one time, when the power went out during a set by > "9lb. Hammer". There they were, this ripping speed metal band, > jamming away like mad on their guitars and shredding the ears of > everybody in the place. Then suddenly there was no power, and they > were just a bunch of long haired doofy looking guys making these > little "ching ching ching" sounds on their guitar strings. > Fortunately, they *realized* how silly this looked, so the 'Hammer > vocalist (a tall guy with one of the deepest/loudest voices I've ever > heard), did a stand up comedy routine while the engineers reset the > power. He was genuinely hysterical, too. What a great afternoon that > was. I miss Boston. > > Steve > swann at plutonia.com I don't! Boston's terrible now! It gets worse all the time... more and more ignorant, jockish college students and "young professionals", more corporate presence altogether, meaning corporate entertainment replacing the real stuff. Drugs, esp. pot, are getting *way* more expensive too. Rent prices going up factor into it but how much cause or effect I have no idea. It's the general trend of most cities I guess. (The Rat closed several years ago by the way). Does anyone travel around the U.S. alot? Are there any major cities that aren't getting all zombified? From shmucking at YAHOO.COM Wed Apr 5 00:49:52 2000 From: shmucking at YAHOO.COM (Ian Rosen) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 21:49:52 -0700 Subject: HW: Doremi Fasol Latido on CD? Message-ID: Is Doremi Fasol Latido available on CD? It's my favorite Hawkwind album and I have it on vinyl. But don't have it on CD. By the way, this is my first message on this list. I'm a big-time Hawkwind fan. I have two of their concerts on tape: both in LA from the early 90's. I got into Hawkwind from my liking for the group Motorhead. Hawkwind is awesome! Glad to be on board the Hawkwind spaceship. I'm looking forward to getting spaced out with you all. Ian __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Apr 5 01:46:50 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 01:46:50 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" 3/25/00 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS FOR WINAMP : 1) Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to hear KUCR. http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your computer. After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program (Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the following http://www.kucr.org:8000 Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up, double click again to reconnect. SHOW CANCELLED LAST SATURDAY! <4/1/00> 3/25/00 1.Subarachnoid Space--Shut Inside/Hidden Outside (Almost Invisible) 2.Mirza--Ember Lights (Iron Compass Flux) 3.Nebula Trip--Waves Across the Galaxy (Birth) 4.Saddar Bazaar--Sarmadi Express: West (Sarmadi Express 7") 5.Hawkwind--Assassins of Allah (10/4/89 Minneapolis cassette) 6.Melting Euphoria--To Shade My Mad Existence/Dandelion Mist (Inside the Gardens of the Mind) 7.Syndrone--Synprovisation (The Elf and the Hawk) 8.Spacious Mind--Interplanetarian Love Machine (Organic Mind Solution) 9.Darxtar--Vistor (Darker) <#'s 8 and 9 by request for Scandinavian Space Rock!> 10.Saddar Bazaar--Sarmadi Express: East (7") 11.ST-37--Heaven Tease (I Love to Talk, When There's Something to Talk About) 12.Mr. Quimby's Beard--The Perplexity of Infinity (The Definitive Unsolved Mysteries of...) 13.The Doors--L'america (L.A. Woman) 14.Amon Duul II--Da Guadalupe (Hi-Jack) 15.Can--Dizzy Dizzy (Soon Over Babaluma, Cannibalism 1) 16.Ozric Tentacles--Ayurvedic (Pungent Effulgent) 17.Cream--Spoonful (Fresh Cream) 18.Zero Gravity--Interferon (Space Does Not Care) 19.Hawkwind--Dust of Time (Live Chronicles) 20.PXR1--Spirit of the Age (The Elf and the Hawk) Thanks, Chuck From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Apr 5 06:52:06 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 06:52:06 EDT Subject: OFF: Re: HW saddos Message-ID: In a message dated 4/4/00 6:25:48 PM, swann at PLUTONIA.COM writes: << On Thu, 30 Mar 2000 20:55:35 +0100, Nick Lee wrote: > >DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > >>goth woman from Sisters Of Mercy, with > >> =========== huh. how did i get _here_? heard some sisters of mercy, jeez, a decade ago? was not enthused. and my affexion for the damned starts and ends w/the first lp. siouxie and gaye advert, babe-wise, on the other hand.... == got up this morning and here i was... "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Apr 5 06:56:19 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 06:56:19 EDT Subject: OFF: Bags x 2 (was Re: HW saddos) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/4/00 6:29:53 PM, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: << Good lord! I can't believe that anyone remembers that band (the mid/late-80s all-male Bags from Boston, not the late-70s mostly-female LA band). Although given the locale I wouldn't be surprised if mr. DASLUD knew (of?) 'em. Yes, they were the "other" Bags ... thanks for reminding me of one of the "mediocre underground rock bands of the 80s" ... Painted Willie (who I saw open for the Butthole Surfers back in 86 or so), anyone? ==== still wondering how i entered this thread, doug-chan. only BAGS i recall were them LA gal-bags. >> vaguely recall painted willie, tho. on the other hand, siouxie and gaye advert ===== whoops! already said that. gomen. "<>" From terry at TMK.COM Wed Apr 5 07:15:09 2000 From: terry at TMK.COM (Terry Kennedy) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 07:15:09 -0400 Subject: Please stand by, we are experiencing synaptic difficulties Message-ID: Hello - I'm the former sysadmin at St. Peter's College, where this (and other lists) are hosted on listserv.spc.edu. Due to a lack of time, money, and a suitable replacement for me, SPC has sort of let LISTSERV bumble along on its own. It had been running on an OS release 5 releases old, with an experimental LISTSERV release that's 4 years old, on woefully inadequate hardware (a 486 with 32MB). Yesterday the system started spazzing out (Ben, your list moderator, got 44MB of error messages 8-). As Monty Python would say, "the responsible people have been sacked" and I've built a replacement box with the absolutely latest and greatest OS and LISTSERV code and much faster hardware. This should let things get back to normal as soon as it is installed (sometime Wednesday evening). I am sending this message from the new box, but mail you send to the list won't appear until I swap the box (unless you send to its top-secret tem- porary address, and then Ben and I would have to kill you 8-). Any mail you've already sent will also be distributed this evening. I'll send another message when I've swapped the box, and at that point I'll be accepting trouble reports (if there are any) and cash offerings... Terry Kennedy http://www.tmk.com terry at tmk.com Jersey City, NJ USA +1 201 451 4554 (voice) +1 201 451 0900 (FAX) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Apr 5 07:23:25 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:23:25 +0100 Subject: HW Andy G'b - Dave Brock & his Baton 1982-3 In-Reply-To: david hall's message of Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:01:13 +0100 Message-ID: > >>"At a HAWKWIND concert in London this week, bouncers felt compelled to use > >>excessive violence when restraining the sci-fi rock group's fans. In turn, > >>vocalist Bob Calvert threatened the bemuscled morons with a microphone > >stand > >>to save his followers from serious injury. (See, the hippie dream still > >lives!)" A real man's microphone stand. FoFP From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Wed Apr 5 06:25:43 2000 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:25:43 +0100 Subject: off: GYBE, SR etc... Message-ID: Back from the way cool Vancouver and comparative list stasis ..... Andy (no G) & I checked out GYBE! & Sigur Ros at the Festival Hall in London last night. Various ferry delays from Dublin meant proceedings started late, with Fly Pan Am cancelled and Sigur Ros not starting until 9.30. SR are pretty cool I agree, and while the guy's vocals do indeed suit the music, I'm not sure its quite my cup of tea. Get Labradford or Do Make Say Think in support would have been cool imho. GYBE didn't start until 10.40 ish and only played about 70-80 minutes, unlike my first exposure to them live last year at Union Chapel (awesome) where they played a good 2+quarter hours. Last night the first 45 minutes was all new material and pretty damn cool. Hopefully a new album out soon :-) They finished up with an extended BBF3 from _Slow Riot..._ with tremendous and climactic riffing from all involved. good stuff. Re: Rob Halford from a while back, I always figured the JP split was resultant to his affirmation of an 'alternate lifestyle'. Could be wrong though. His post JP output has been: - the Pantera style metal outfit Fight (albums War of Words, Small Deadly Space & Mutations. Only got the first. Pretty decent if you like that kinda thing) - Industrial tinged experiment "Two", yeah, produced by Trent Reznor. Dunno what it sounds like. Rob wearing way too much mascara on the cover though! - Last news snippet I saw was that he was returning to his metal roots. Hmmm. Tim ObCD: Nebula _To the Center_ From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Wed Apr 5 07:30:13 2000 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 07:30:13 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bags x 2 (was Re: HW saddos) Message-ID: Here is a webpage for the Bags. http://www2.thecia.net/users/prob/bags.shtml The drummer for the Bags (Jim Janota) is now the drummer for Upper Crust and the sometime drummer for the Titanics. > -----Original Message----- > From: DASLUD at AOL.COM [SMTP:DASLUD at AOL.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 6:56 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF: Bags x 2 (was Re: HW saddos) > > In a message dated 4/4/00 6:29:53 PM, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > > << > Good lord! I can't believe that anyone remembers that band (the > mid/late-80s all-male Bags from Boston, not the late-70s mostly-female LA > band). Although given the locale I wouldn't be surprised if mr. DASLUD > knew (of?) 'em. Yes, they were the "other" Bags ... thanks for reminding > me of one of the "mediocre underground rock bands of the 80s" ... Painted > Willie (who I saw open for the Butthole Surfers back in 86 or so), anyone? > ==== > still wondering how i entered this thread, doug-chan. > only BAGS i recall were them LA gal-bags. > > >> vaguely recall painted willie, tho. > > on the other hand, siouxie and gaye advert ===== > whoops! already said that. > gomen. > > "<>" From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Wed Apr 5 07:41:18 2000 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:41:18 +0100 Subject: Doremi Fasol Latido on CD? Message-ID: Ian, Yes it is on CD! Try the Cleopatra original CD, or the EMI re-mastered re-issue, with extra relevant tracks, and a digipak fold-out cover! And VERY BIG welcome to the list! Best wishes, Guy Thomas -----Original Message----- From: Ian Rosen [mailto:shmucking at YAHOO.COM] Sent: 05 April 2000 05:50 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Doremi Fasol Latido on CD? Is Doremi Fasol Latido available on CD? It's my favorite Hawkwind album and I have it on vinyl. But don't have it on CD. By the way, this is my first message on this list. I'm a big-time Hawkwind fan. I have two of their concerts on tape: both in LA from the early 90's. I got into Hawkwind from my liking for the group Motorhead. Hawkwind is awesome! Glad to be on board the Hawkwind spaceship. I'm looking forward to getting spaced out with you all. Ian __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Apr 5 07:58:34 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 21:58:34 +1000 Subject: HW: The Hawkwind Connection Message-ID: At 11:10 AM 4/4/00 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >>>Michael Moorcock demos 1992 >>>Another Quiet Day In Auschwitz >>>Starcruiser >>>Dodgem Dude >>>Brothel In Rosenstrasse >>>Good Girl, Bad Girl >>>Time Centre >>>My New Knife >>>Peter The Vulture >>>Intro Mental >>>Harlequin >> >>1992? Those songs (or songs which match their description) were all on the >>tape he sent me in about 1984. > >Yeah, I knew immediately by listening to these things that '1992' was total >crap. We should all know by now (still don't understand how I could have >believed the given date on THA without question!) that HW and accurate liner >notes should never appear in the same sentence. I've found 2 of tapes he sent me. On one of these he dates the Entropy Tango songs (of which there are about 4 in that list) as recorded in 1976. My guess at Auschwitz would be no later than about 81, but I can't actually remember what I'm basing that on. The really collectable item would be the album by 'The Magnificent Bellyflops' (apparently a reference to MM's stomach) which he recorded in about 1961-1962 with Langdon Jones, Charles Platt and Pete Taylor, titled 'Suddenly it's the Bellyflops' - apparently a very small number pressed privately. Platt, by this stage, had been in a band called 'Jesus Christ and the Apostles', which I think is rather progressive for 1962 :) -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Apr 5 08:03:26 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 22:03:26 +1000 Subject: HW: Doremi Fasol Latido on CD? Message-ID: At 09:49 PM 4/4/00 -0700, Ian Rosen wrote: >Is Doremi Fasol Latido available on CD? > >It's my favorite Hawkwind album and I have it on >vinyl. But don't have it on CD. Hi. I have Doremi on CD on the One-Way label. It's a very good transcription; don't know what other labels are like. I think it's out of print, but it's not hard to get used. There are nearly always some on e-bay; the last three were offered up for between $10 and $15 and none of them sold. -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Apr 5 08:05:10 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 22:05:10 +1000 Subject: HW: Doremi Fasol Latido on CD? Message-ID: "the last three were offered up for between $10 and $15 and none of them sold." I beg your pardon; there were 5, and 2 of them sold. -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From Bert.Hulshoff at NN.DHV.NL Wed Apr 5 10:00:33 2000 From: Bert.Hulshoff at NN.DHV.NL (Bert.Hulshoff at NN.DHV.NL) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 16:00:33 +0200 Subject: Doremi Fasol Latido on CD? Message-ID: Yes it is , try http://www.cranium.co.nz/catalog/A_534.htm Greetings Bert aka Phrozenlight my Homepage https//go.to/phrozenlight (always under construction) please listen to my spacesongs at the shared file section and send me an review ;-) > ---------- > From: Ian Rosen[SMTP:shmucking at YAHOO.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 06:49 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: HW: Doremi Fasol Latido on CD? > > Is Doremi Fasol Latido available on CD? > > It's my favorite Hawkwind album and I have it on > vinyl. But don't have it on CD. > > By the way, this is my first message on this list. > I'm a big-time Hawkwind fan. I have two of their > concerts on tape: both in LA from the early 90's. I > got into Hawkwind from my liking for the group > Motorhead. Hawkwind is awesome! > > Glad to be on board the Hawkwind spaceship. I'm > looking forward to getting spaced out with you all. > > Ian > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Wed Apr 5 10:20:43 2000 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 10:20:43 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: live at Living Room Message-ID: Come back to Boston, Al (and Friends)! > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Halligan [SMTP:blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 6:57 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: BRAIN: live at Living Room > > >Albert Bouchard wrote: > > > >> tBS are playing our first acoustic gig ever and our first gig in over a > >> year and a half at the Living Room NYC on Friday April 14th at 11pm. > > > >The address is 84 Stanton Street and the phone number is 212-533-7237 > > Sounds like fun. Unfortunately, NYC's beyond my concert range and I can't > afford to spend the weekend down there sightseeing (just paid my taxes...) > Anybody from BOC-L going to be there to give an audience perspective of > the > gig? > > What's the word on Peter? Will he be a part of tBS's future, or has he > decided to do his own thing? I know he wasn't on PoW much, and it still > has > some of my favorite Surgeons tunes. So, if you guys are going to keep > making music as a 4 piece (with guests) it'll be cool to see how that > sound > evolves. > > Any hints on whether any of these acoustic tunes will find their way to a > live album? ;-) > > Brian > > ----- > Brian Halligan > mailto:blackblade at bhalligan.com > http://www.bhalligan.com/ From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Apr 5 14:08:15 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:08:15 -0700 Subject: OFF: Bags x 2 (was Re: HW saddos) Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Apr 2000 20:06:58 -0500, "Sen. Volstead" wrote: >Boston's terrible now! It gets worse all the time... more and more >ignorant, jockish college students and "young professionals", more corporate >presence altogether, meaning corporate entertainment replacing the real stuff. >Drugs, esp. pot, are getting *way* more expensive too. Rent prices going up factor >into it but how much cause or effect I have no idea. It's the general trend of >most cities I guess. (The Rat closed several years ago by the way). Don't get me started on San Francisco! ALL of that (except for the college student part, since they all live in out Stanford or Berkeley) is true there, and probably worse than any other city in the US. The Silicon Valley "bridge & tunnel" crowd (no, I'm not talking about you, Chris! :^) ) overruns certain neighborhoods on weekends ... it's just *bad*. And the I-Beam, Stone, and Omni, where Hawkwind played on their 89/90 tours in the Bay Area (gotta have *something* remotely on-topic!), are all closed (although the latter two sucked, to be fair ... the former location of the Stone just reopened a couple months ago as a "gentlemen's club" [read: pricey tittie bar] after years of being empty - it may not last since they never bothered to get the proper permits to allow the -erm- exposure). >Does anyone travel around the U.S. alot? Are there any major cities that aren't >getting all zombified? There's always Detroit (the only place in the U.S. where people are still living out the 80s crack epedemic, so I guess it's just zombified in a different way). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Apr 5 20:59:47 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 17:59:47 -0700 Subject: HW - Garibaldi's back!!! Message-ID: Hi Sports Fans, Returning to the group, following an exhausting time making a compilation, revolving around three Magma albums, into an absolute work of art. Anyway, here is the news. First, in response to the one guy who asked about the BBC Sessions album - not much of a story here I'm afraid. What basically happened was that one of the mail order operations who spend oodles of money advertising in the likes of Record Collector, had an album advertised for sale by Hawkwind called 'BBC Sessions' or similar. Knowing nothing about it, I called EMI, who confirmed that it was coming out, had a release date and even a catalogue number for it, but no other info. So, naturally, to get the full info on content, I called Doug Smith who was quite amazed when I asked the question. It turned out that the album had been arranged between Doug and EMI but had not got as far as any terms or contract being signed for its release to take place and that, I suppose, EMI had 'jumped the gun' assuming it was all signed, sealed and delivered. All I can now presume, since it disappeared off the schedules a while later, is that an agreement couldn't be reached or, more likely, the prospect of the reunion concerts coming up in Sept '99, meant that compilation-time was upon us yet again, as the majors seemed to love to do, and the BBC thing got replaced by the 'Epoch' thing, altho' to be fair, that was for the Eclipse. Anyway, still no BBC album and that's it - pretty dull, eh? To other things - someone told me that a mail Order company are advertising the Hawkwind Family Tree album in this month's Record Collector, and that a Dutch company, among others I gather, are advertising the Calvert 'Revenge' CD also. Prompted by phone calls as to why our beloved customers have not heard about this from me at CD Services, I went into investigation mode, to find out from the label, that the 'Atomhenge' double CD (the '76 one) is now not due for release until sometime in JUNE (Yes, June!!!) and that the 'Family Tree' and the Calvert albums are not even on the schedule yet for release, which means July at the earliest (unless Dave's done a deal with another label about which none of us know anything right know and someone's got wind of it somehow, altho' I find that highly unlikely). Also, following a converstion today, it would appear more than likely that the 'Family Tree' album is not even finished yet, let alone ready for release. So, stick with me at CD Services and we'll keep you updated with what's really going on!! Those who can't wait any longer , really should consider the 'Thrilling Adventures' album which is excellent. The Motorhead new studio album is currently on presale here at CD Services with the first pressing only coming in a special tin packaging and limited to initial orders only, so if you want to secure a copy, get in touch as soon as possible as release date's set for 15th May and our advance order discount will only apply up to a week or so before then. Next, the Starfield album, that Brian Tawn mentioned in his last newsletter, is now in stock here at CDS, and it's just SUPERB. Hawkwind fans will love it, I promise. You'll find my review for it at: www.andygee.dial.pipex.com/album.htm and it's available right now EXCLUSIVELY through CD Services. For the Blue Oyster fraternity, for whom this is probably a well-known thing already, there's now a special fold-out digi-pak release on Munster label of the 4-track NY 1972 live mini-album, which looks and sounds great. Dunno how legit it is tho'. S'pose it's OK otherwise we wouldn't have it here. For UK people and interested overseas fans, Krel's electronic instrumental alter-ego are doing another one-off Supermarket gig, this time in England (the last one was in Scotland) at leading retail giant Sainsbury's in Stafford on May 27th - full details at: www.andygee.dial.pipex.com/event2.htm Had enough yet - I know I have. Andy Garibaldi. From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Apr 5 16:38:38 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 21:38:38 +0100 Subject: HW: Doremi Fasol Latido on CD? Message-ID: Hi Ian boc-l is going to be down for a couple of days so any message I send there won't reach you until its revival. However this is just to say that yes Doremi does exist on CD. There is a One-Way Records version - standard; a Japanese version - remixed and sound improved with Silver Machine as an extra track; and one of the rather splendid EMI digital remasters was Doremi with an elegant foldout cover and some extra tracks. I highly recommend this if you can find a copy. However if you can't I do have a spare copy of the One-Way CD (bought in error - I thought it was the Undiscolosed Files CD- same cover logo) and it's up for sale if you are interested. It cost me 11.79 pounds but I' m happy to let it go for less to someone who genuinely wants it! cheers and welcome to the list - when it wakes up again! Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jill Strobridge ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From To: Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 5:49 AM Subject: HW: Doremi Fasol Latido on CD? > Is Doremi Fasol Latido available on CD? > > It's my favorite Hawkwind album and I have it on > vinyl. But don't have it on CD. > > By the way, this is my first message on this list. > I'm a big-time Hawkwind fan. I have two of their > concerts on tape: both in LA from the early 90's. I > got into Hawkwind from my liking for the group > Motorhead. Hawkwind is awesome! > > Glad to be on board the Hawkwind spaceship. I'm > looking forward to getting spaced out with you all. > > Ian > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Apr 5 17:46:06 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 22:46:06 +0100 Subject: HW: Doremi Fasol Latido on CD? Message-ID: Sure is....welcome aboard! Dave -----Original Message----- From: Ian Rosen To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 05 April 2000 12:13 Subject: HW: Doremi Fasol Latido on CD? >Is Doremi Fasol Latido available on CD? > >It's my favorite Hawkwind album and I have it on >vinyl. But don't have it on CD. > >By the way, this is my first message on this list. >I'm a big-time Hawkwind fan. I have two of their >concerts on tape: both in LA from the early 90's. I >got into Hawkwind from my liking for the group >Motorhead. Hawkwind is awesome! > >Glad to be on board the Hawkwind spaceship. I'm >looking forward to getting spaced out with you all. > >Ian > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Apr 5 18:35:54 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 18:35:54 -0400 Subject: HW: Glasters Message-ID: Hi Folks... I *thought* the list was to be down for a couple days, but here goes.... I just flew by the Glastonbury Festival site, and discovered that they have a list of bands confirmed to play, and other rumours now posted. And Hawkwind *is* listed as a 'rumour' to play on the Field of Avalon, the same site that Gong is confirmed to play (Sunday eve.?). Mike Howlett is also doing some sort of solo performance. The voting booth (that they insisted would be considered in choosing bands, which is crazy, but then I guess it's beneficial to Hawkfans since we all knew about it) is now closed and they will put up the final numbers shortly. Last I checked, Hawkwind was second in total votes only to Neil Finn (ex-Split Enz?) of all people. http://www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/ Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Don't take your dogs near the recording devices! :) From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Apr 6 00:31:36 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 00:31:36 EDT Subject: OFF: Bags de ganja x 2 (was Re: HW saddos) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/5/00 7:02:38 PM, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: channeling for the senator: << >Drugs, esp. pot, are getting *way* more expensive too. >> == yeah, in situations where boston collegiate a-hos charge you a hundred bux a quarter -_- but just a little bit south, prices some places have gone _down_ a bit, to 50 a quarter, and 'mersh' may be the best ever in terms of quality. in recent memory that is. and you know what they say about cannabis and 'recent memory'... i'm sorry, what was the question? "<>" From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Thu Apr 6 01:10:04 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 07:10:04 +0200 Subject: HW: Doremi Fasol Latido on CD? Message-ID: Hello Ian, Welcome to the BOC-L list. Yes,the 'Doremi' is on CD. You should try to get the EMI remastered one. The 'One Way' is a good alternative. The Japanese one is a hell of a job to find ! What are the dates of the 2 LA gigs ? greetings filip hawknut ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Rosen To: Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 6:49 AM Subject: HW: Doremi Fasol Latido on CD? > Is Doremi Fasol Latido available on CD? > > It's my favorite Hawkwind album and I have it on > vinyl. But don't have it on CD. > > By the way, this is my first message on this list. > I'm a big-time Hawkwind fan. I have two of their > concerts on tape: both in LA from the early 90's. I > got into Hawkwind from my liking for the group > Motorhead. Hawkwind is awesome! > > Glad to be on board the Hawkwind spaceship. I'm > looking forward to getting spaced out with you all. > > Ian > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com From terry at TMK.COM Thu Apr 6 02:11:12 2000 From: terry at TMK.COM (Terry Kennedy) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 02:11:12 -0400 Subject: Please stand by... Message-ID: As you've no doubt noticed, LISTSERV is back up. Please let me know if you run into any problems. Terry Kennedy http://www.tmk.com terry at tmk.com Jersey City, NJ USA +1 201 451 4554 (voice) +1 201 451 0900 (FAX) From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Wed Apr 5 07:41:18 2000 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 12:41:18 +0100 Subject: Doremi Fasol Latido on CD? Message-ID: Ian, Yes it is on CD! Try the Cleopatra original CD, or the EMI re-mastered re-issue, with extra relevant tracks, and a digipak fold-out cover! And VERY BIG welcome to the list! Best wishes, Guy Thomas -----Original Message----- From: Ian Rosen [mailto:shmucking at YAHOO.COM] Sent: 05 April 2000 05:50 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: HW: Doremi Fasol Latido on CD? Is Doremi Fasol Latido available on CD? It's my favorite Hawkwind album and I have it on vinyl. But don't have it on CD. By the way, this is my first message on this list. I'm a big-time Hawkwind fan. I have two of their concerts on tape: both in LA from the early 90's. I got into Hawkwind from my liking for the group Motorhead. Hawkwind is awesome! Glad to be on board the Hawkwind spaceship. I'm looking forward to getting spaced out with you all. Ian __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Apr 6 05:22:47 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 10:22:47 +0100 Subject: OFF: Wayne Kramer in LA Message-ID: The LA crew (I know there's a few of you) might want to check this out. But only if you like guitars. ;) -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: Musclemuse at aol.com [mailto:Musclemuse at aol.com] Sent: 03 April 2000 22:08 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Subject: MINT-y Mondays/KRAMER Residency WAYNE KRAMER RETURNS TO THE MINT Celebrated outlaw guitarist and songwriter Wayne Kramer returns to Los Angeles' Mint for an extended engagement consisting of Monday night shows in April. "Returning to The Mint is always a blast. It's the best club room in LA for live music," says Kramer who recorded "LLMF," his 1998 Epitaph release there. "We'll be trying out some new material and, since the sets are early enough, the audience can catch the whole night." Before Kramer's 10pm set every Monday will be Interscope Records' James Hall (9pm), who, "I'm very pleased to announce is really a fantastic performer. Not only is he a talented songwriter, but the boy knows how to dance!" There will also be an 8pm opener every week. Tonight's is solo singer-songwriter Vessy Mink. Wayne Kramer will also pick up again with weekly performances at The Mint in June. The Mint is located at 6010 Pico Blvd. (at Crescent Heights) in Los Angeles. Call the club (323-954-9630) for more information. From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Apr 6 06:09:00 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:09:00 +1000 Subject: HW Andy G'b - Dave Brock & his Baton 1982-3 Message-ID: At 11:45 PM 4/4/00 +0100, david hall wrote: >Wasn't this from 1976? Back in the 70's music often used to take six months to a year to make it over here, so maybe the same went for music news :/ (I distinctly remember reading that 'Quark Strangeness and Charm' would be released in February 1977, and going in about twice a week to the record store for about 8 or 9 months waiting for the thing.) -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Apr 6 07:40:12 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 07:40:12 EDT Subject: off: GYBE, SR etc... In-Reply-To: <200004051029.LAA03391@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: On 5 Apr 00, at 11:25, bart wrote: > Re: Rob Halford from a while back, I always figured the JP split was > resultant to his affirmation of an 'alternate lifestyle'. Could be > wrong though. I may be an old cynic but I thought that Rob's coming out was a publicity ploy. How could he play in a band with 4 other guys for 15 years and nobody could figure out he's gay? Now I know, judging from the post-Halford lyrics, that the JP guys aren't rocket scientists [relax die-hards, I've already praised Glenn's guitar playing and songwriting apart from the lyrics] but they must have known that Rob was, uh, different... theo From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Apr 6 09:36:47 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 09:36:47 EDT Subject: HW Andy G'b - Dave Brock & his Baton 1982-3 Message-ID: In a message dated 4/6/00 6:09:45 AM, lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM writes: << (I distinctly remember reading that 'Quark Strangeness and Charm' would be released in February 1977, and going in about twice a week to the record store for about 8 or 9 months waiting for the thing.) -- >> ======== and yet, i believe i bought 'quark' in the US late 77/early 78, followed by the tour culminating in mr brock selling his guitar upon leaving the stage in SF. yes, fellow yanks? "<>" From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Apr 6 11:57:30 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:57:30 -0400 Subject: HW - Garibaldi's back!!! In-Reply-To: <38EBE183.3998@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: => First, in response to the one guy who asked about the BBC Sessions album => - not much of a story here I'm afraid. What basically happened was that => one of the mail order operations who spend oodles of money advertising => in the likes of Record Collector, had an album advertised for sale by => Hawkwind called 'BBC Sessions' or similar. Knowing nothing about it, I => called EMI, who confirmed that it was coming out, had a release date and => even a catalogue number for it, but no other info. So, naturally, to get => the full info on content, I called Doug Smith who was quite amazed when => I asked the question. It turned out that the album had been arranged => between Doug and EMI but had not got as far as any terms or contract => being signed for its release to take place and that, I suppose, EMI had => 'jumped the gun' assuming it was all signed, sealed and delivered. All I => can now presume, since it disappeared off the schedules a while later, => is that an agreement couldn't be reached [...] So, if I get this right, the _BBC Sessions_ was all ready to hit the players of unsuspecting fans until you called up Doug Smith and wrecked the whole thing?!?!? ;-) We may have to revise the cherised BOC-L tenet that Steve Swann is to blame for everything!... >;-) Cheers, Paul. NP: Pink Floyd, _Meddle_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Thu Apr 6 12:02:30 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:02:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: Planetary Alignments Message-ID: Can anyone confirm whether or not on May 5th? The Earth, Moon, Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Saturn & Jupiter will all be aligned (in a straight line) for the first time in 6000 years. It's all of the ancient Gods lined up at the same time! Apparently, the astronomers and astrologers were jumping up and down and foaming at the mouth the last time we had a four planetary alignment in the early sixties which some say heralded "Flower Power" Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Thu Apr 6 12:02:28 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:02:28 +0100 Subject: HW: Glastonbury 2000 Message-ID: HW may end being there but who's got ?87 plus booking fee plus travelling expenses to get there? Stuart NP UFO - Live In Texas Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Apr 6 12:15:56 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:15:56 +0100 Subject: off:Dark Sun In-Reply-To: <006e01bf9e90$299b8340$9725883e@jds> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, Jill Strobridge wrote: > ObNewCD - Orange Goblin - Motorhead meets Hawkwind - why have these > guys never played at Pentrich! Ooh! Is that the new one? I've been waiting for that ever since I heard it would have a track on it called `You'll Never Get To The Moon In That'... Ah, no, a brief trawl of says it's not out till May 1st so you've presumably got one of the other two, both of which are very fine. Rawk. Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Apr 6 12:24:50 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:24:50 +0100 Subject: OFF: Planetary Alignments In-Reply-To: <002901bf9fe1$833352a0$fe8801d4@stuartha> Message-ID: I heard something on the radio about this this morning... soon after sunset in the west, you'll be able to see the Moon, Jupiter, Saturn and (I think) Venus all at once. Which is unusual. And it looks like it'll be clear, which is even more unusual for something like this! ;) -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Zeitgeist > Sent: 06 April 2000 17:03 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: OFF: Planetary Alignments > > > Can anyone confirm whether or not on May 5th? The Earth, Moon, > Sun, Mercury, > Venus, Mars, Saturn & Jupiter will all be aligned (in a straight line) for > the first time in 6000 years. It's all of the ancient Gods lined up at the > same time! Apparently, the astronomers and astrologers were jumping up and > down and foaming at the mouth the last time we had a four planetary > alignment in the early sixties which some say heralded "Flower Power" > > > Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK > > "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" > > http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com > http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk > From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Thu Apr 6 12:39:33 2000 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 12:39:33 -0400 Subject: OFF: Planetary Alignments Message-ID: The first alignment is today but the major alignment is on May 3, 2000 when 7 planets gather in the sign of Taurus. Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. The last time that they were aligned was February 1962 in Aquarius. The last time in Taurus was May 21st, 529 AD. There will be many Planetary alignments from May 3 to May 28th. Dr. Ductor -----Original Message----- From: Andy Gilham [SMTP:Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM] Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 9:25 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: Planetary Alignments I heard something on the radio about this this morning... soon after sunset in the west, you'll be able to see the Moon, Jupiter, Saturn and (I think) Venus all at once. Which is unusual. And it looks like it'll be clear, which is even more unusual for something like this! ;) -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Zeitgeist > Sent: 06 April 2000 17:03 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: OFF: Planetary Alignments > > > Can anyone confirm whether or not on May 5th? The Earth, Moon, > Sun, Mercury, > Venus, Mars, Saturn & Jupiter will all be aligned (in a straight line) for > the first time in 6000 years. It's all of the ancient Gods lined up at the > same time! Apparently, the astronomers and astrologers were jumping up and > down and foaming at the mouth the last time we had a four planetary > alignment in the early sixties which some say heralded "Flower Power" > > > Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK > > "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" > > http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com > http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Apr 6 11:43:31 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:43:31 -0400 Subject: OFF: Planetary Alignments Message-ID: >Can anyone confirm whether or not on May 5th? The Earth, Moon, Sun, Mercury, >Venus, Mars, Saturn & Jupiter will all be aligned (in a straight line) for >the first time in 6000 years. It's all of the ancient Gods lined up at the >same time! Apparently, the astronomers and astrologers were jumping up and >down and foaming at the mouth the last time we had a four planetary >alignment in the early sixties which some say heralded "Flower Power" Sun, Six Planets to Line Up Matthew Fordahl, AP Science Writer LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Next month, the sun and six of the planets will line up like cosmic billiard balls in a configuration doomsayers warn could shift the Earth's poles, trigger earthquakes, ruin the stock market and usher in the Age of Aquarius if anyone survives. Astronomers are bracing for the May 5-16 alignment, too, but not out of fear their observatories will crumble. They will be busy debunking the end-of-the-world predictions, just as they did when the planets lined up in 1982, 1962 and about every 20 years before that. They will have to do it again in 2020, too. ``If people are determined to be anxious about something, I think it would be a lot better if they were anxious about their driving on the freeways,'' said E.C. Krupp, director of the Griffith Observatory in Los Angeles. The alignment will involve the sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn, and comes just when you thought it was safe to ditch those Y2K survival kits. The May show won't even be visible because it will be obscured by the sun's glare. So if there is to be any earthly excitement, it will have to come from all those quakes, tidal waves and volcanoes. On Thursday, in a celestial preview, three planets -- Mars, Jupiter and Saturn -- will appear close in the sky as they march toward the grand alignment. The crescent moon will be crammed into the same area. ``It's very pretty,'' said Dennis Mammana, astronomer at San Diego's Reuben H. Fleet Science Center. ``I think that's the limit to the significance of this thing.'' There's no risk of a collision: The moon is 239,000 miles away; Mars 216 million miles away; Jupiter 543 million miles away; and Saturn 927 million miles away. Each one of these planetary alignments brings a new round of doomsday predictions. A book called ``The Jupiter Effect'' received wide attention with its prediction that California would be rocked by a major earthquake indirectly caused by the 1982 alignment of the planets. It turned out to be all wrong. Another book ominously titled ``5/5/2000: Ice, The Ultimate Disaster'' predicts the alignment and increased solar activity will unleash a complex chain of events causing the Earth's crust to slide and poles to shift. ``Quite frankly, it would be a geological Armageddon,'' said author Richard Noone. ``You'd have volcanism going on globally. Earthquakes beyond the scale anything Richter ever dreamed of. Tsunamis hundreds of feet high, sweeping hundreds of miles inland.'' The 390-page book uses ``pole shifting'' to explain everything from the disappearance of the civilization that built the pyramids to why woolly mammoths appear to be flash-frozen in Siberia. Noone has moved his family to safety in Georgia, but astronomers say he and everybody else have nothing to worry about because the extra pull and stretching from the aligned planets is a small fraction of the moon's tidal and gravitational strength. Astrologers, though, say the planetary alignment signals a change from the Age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius. And that's not a good thing. The ``pileup of energy'' is going to lead to ``some very serious reversals in the stock market,'' said astrologer Norman Arens. He also predicts cataclysmic quakes, floods and volcanoes as well as a movement away from 2,000-year-old Christian principles. Mammana countered that nobody has ever been able to explain how rocks in space can influence lives. ``It's a shame that they have to fall into the traps of things like this,'' he said. ``The universe is a grand and wonderful place, and the fact that we can understand it and predict the way it behaves is a wonderful testament to our intelligence and our ingenuity.'' And besides, Krupp said, if the end of the world is near, so what? ``There's no reason to get upset about it. If it is the end of the world, there's very little you can do,'' he said. *------ On the Net: Griffith Observatory: http://www.griffithobs.org Reuben H. Fleet Science Center: http://www.rhfleet.org Richard Noone's home page: http://www.rnoones.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Apr 6 11:47:37 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:47:37 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dark Orange Sun Goblin Message-ID: >On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, Jill Strobridge wrote: > >> ObNewCD - Orange Goblin - Motorhead meets Hawkwind - why have these >> guys never played at Pentrich! > > Ooh! Is that the new one? I've been waiting for that ever since I >heard it would have a track on it called `You'll Never Get To The Moon In >That'... > > Ah, no, a brief trawl of says >it's not out till May 1st so you've presumably got one of the other two, >both of which are very fine. Rawk. Well, I already know promo copies are out in the world. A guy at Sonic Unyon has already promised to burn me a copy of his. So it may be the new one she's talking about. Grakkl (FAA) From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Apr 6 13:09:12 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 13:09:12 EDT Subject: HW: Glastonbury 2000 In-Reply-To: <002801bf9fe1$81ecc8e0$fe8801d4@stuartha> Message-ID: On 6 Apr 00, at 17:02, Zeitgeist wrote: > HW may end being there but who's got ?87 plus booking fee plus > travelling expenses to get there? > > Stuart > NP UFO - Live In Texas Yo! What's this UFO disc? Schenker on it? theo From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Apr 6 13:52:03 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 13:52:03 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dark Orange Sun Goblin In-Reply-To: <200004061649.MAA25288@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, K Henderson wrote: => Well, I already know promo copies are out in the world. A guy at Sonic => Unyon has already promised to burn me a copy of his. Tsk, tsk. I trust you will buy a copy of the real thing when it becomes available?... :-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Apr 6 13:51:17 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 13:51:17 -0400 Subject: OFF: Planetary Alignments In-Reply-To: <002901bf9fe1$833352a0$fe8801d4@stuartha>; from stuarthamilton@CONNECTFREE.CO.UK on Thu, Apr 06, 2000 at 05:02:30PM +0100 Message-ID: Zeitgeist wrote: > Can anyone confirm whether or not on May 5th? The Earth, Moon, Sun, Mercury, > Venus, Mars, Saturn & Jupiter will all be aligned (in a straight line) True, more or less. See http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/alignment.html > for the first time in 6000 years. Not sure about this part. > Apparently, the astronomers and astrologers were jumping up and > down and foaming at the mouth the last time we had a four planetary > alignment in the early sixties This time, the astrologers are jumping and foaming again about the alignment. Mostly the astronomers are jumping and foaming about the astrologers. (See many of the pages linked to by the above, especially the "Bad Astronomy" one.) > which some say heralded "Flower Power" "Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]" wrote: > The last time that they were aligned was February 1962 in Aquarius. Hmm, is this what that Age of Aquarius stuff was about? (Maybe not -- my astrology's a bit fuzzy (but no more so, I think, than the astrologers' :-)) If it is, then one could indeed say that the alignment caused flower power. The recreational chemicals helped too, of course... > There will be many Planetary alignments from May 3 to May 28th. Well, perhaps one constantly shifting one. Except for the moon; it'll be out'a there pretty quickly. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of ridicule. he was NOT a loser. thank you, Mr. Schulz. - Robert C. Mayo From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Thu Apr 6 15:08:07 2000 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:08:07 -0500 Subject: OFF: Bags de ganja x 2 (was Re: HW saddos) Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 4/5/00 7:02:38 PM, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: > channeling for the senator: > > << >Drugs, esp. pot, are getting *way* more expensive too. >> > == > yeah, in situations where boston collegiate a-hos charge you a hundred bux a > quarter -_- > > but just a little bit south, prices some places have gone _down_ a bit, to 50 > a quarter, and 'mersh' may be the best ever in terms of quality. in recent > memory that is. > > and you know what they say about cannabis and 'recent memory'... > > i'm sorry, what was the question? > > "<>" haha! I'm mostly disconnected with that crowd except when large groups of them try to start fights with me ("wooooooYEAH!!!!" we're drunk, it's dark out, we've never been in a city before and there's enough of us so we're not intimidated). Even though I *am* one of those college students now, I went to high school in Boston and keep the same degenerate company I always have. Through the past 6 years or so then I've noticed that the more accommodating the place becomes to vacuous commerce/students, the bolder they get, and the more they take over.. now on the important subject of prices: $125 an oz. is high for the "mersh", used to be $90-$100. The evil that happened is this "kyne bud", which sells for $60 an eighth and is barely worth half that. This is what sells to college students, and has replaced everything else for the most part, because it makes so much more money. It's funny then how the other rare innexpensive, stuff has been labelled as "commersh". Hardly anyone I know now sells this anymore. From blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US Thu Apr 6 14:04:10 2000 From: blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US (Brad M. Lauchnor) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 12:04:10 -0600 Subject: BOC: The Golden Age of Palo Alto - tree! Message-ID: O.k. folks. A generous friend has donated some great shows from BOC and since I promised to tree 'em if I got 'em- Here we go. The show is from The Edge in Palo Alto, CA. The sound is clean, clear but a bit unbalanced. About what you would expect. :) I will burn all branch disks using Exact Audio Copy and disc-at-once capable software. The following is the setlist: 2-4-98, The Edge, Palo Alto Disc 1. 1. Intro 2. Before the Kiss, a Redcap 3. Cities On Flame 4. E.T.I. 5. Harvest Moon 6. Buck's Boogie 7. O.D.'d On Life Itself 8. The Vigil 9. Live For Me 10. Flaming Telepaths Disc 2 1. I'd Like To See You In Black 2. Last Days of May 3. In Thee 4. Burnin' For You 5. Godzilla 6. Don't Fear The Reaper 7. Golden Age Of Leather 8. Dominance and Submission If you can burn CDR's and would like to help please send an email to me with "PALO ALTO - BRANCH" in the subject. Include your name, address, and # of leaves you are willing to burn for. PLEASE BE ABLE TO BURN DAO (disk-at-once)! If you can't burn CDR's and would like to be part of the tree send an email to me with "PALO ALTO - LEAF" in the subject. Include your name and address. I would like to see all branches burn for leaves 1:1 plus return postage or 2:1. I will burn for all branches 1:1 plus return postage or 2:1, your preference. If you have any questions please email me, the tree sign-ups will end on 4-14-00 and I will post the structure during the week of the 17th. If you are skilled with computer artwork and would like to design some great CD covers and backs PLEASE let me know!! If you would like more info on trees go here: http://home.earthlink.net/~laburnett/tree/ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Apr 6 13:18:28 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 13:18:28 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dark Orange Sun Goblin Message-ID: >On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, K Henderson wrote: > >=> Well, I already know promo copies are out in the world. A guy at Sonic >=> Unyon has already promised to burn me a copy of his. > >Tsk, tsk. I trust you will buy a copy of the real thing when it becomes >available?... :-) Oh yeah, I would, at least if it were a domestic release again (which I'm assuming). My idea was to get it in early to review for Aural Innovations. I don't solicit CD-R trading, except for samplers and the Milton Keynes thingy. Grakkl (FAA) From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Thu Apr 6 14:20:51 2000 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:20:51 -0700 Subject: BOC: The Golden Age of Palo Alto - tree! Message-ID: >The show is from The Edge in Palo Alto, CA. Which, sad to say, is closing. The last remaining rock club on the Peninsula is going to become... a jazz supper club. scorch From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Apr 6 14:18:57 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:18:57 -0700 Subject: off: GYBE, SR etc... Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 07:40:12 EDT, "Ted Jackson jr." wrote: >On 5 Apr 00, at 11:25, bart wrote: > >> Re: Rob Halford from a while back, I always figured the JP split was >> resultant to his affirmation of an 'alternate lifestyle'. Could be >> wrong though. > >I may be an old cynic but I thought that Rob's coming out was a >publicity ploy. How could he play in a band with 4 other guys for 15 >years and nobody could figure out he's gay? I don't think it was exactly a big secret at the time. I'd heard "friend-of-friend" rumors from people who allegedly knew arena security workers (of the fratboy/college athelete variety) who had been the recipients of personal interest from mr. Halford. Certainly the rest of the band must have known, it's just something that wasn't publicized (sort of the way teen idol pop stars have to keep their marriages secret so not to disappoint their teenybopper fans). I could easily believe, though, that the split came as a result of his *public* affirmation of said lifestyle. >Now I know, judging >from the post-Halford lyrics, that the JP guys aren't rocket scientists >[relax die-hards, I've already praised Glenn's guitar playing and >songwriting apart from the lyrics] but they must have known that Rob >was, uh, different... *Especially* judging from his lyrics! Lots of very blatant innuendo there (certainly in retrospect), and isn't the whole tough-biker-in-leather schtick (remember the guy in the Village People?) sort of homoerotic to begin with ... ? I'll have to ask some of my gay friends if they ever had a boyhood crush on Eric Bloom! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Apr 6 14:22:33 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:22:33 -0700 Subject: OFF: Dark Orange Sun Goblin Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 13:52:03 -0400, Paul Mather wrote: >On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, K Henderson wrote: >=> Well, I already know promo copies are out in the world. A guy at Sonic >=> Unyon has already promised to burn me a copy of his. > >Tsk, tsk. I trust you will buy a copy of the real thing when it becomes >available?... :-) But Keith's a journalist, remember? (Aural Innovations!) He's entitled to a free promo :^) -Doug ceres at sirius.com From StevenTice at AOL.COM Thu Apr 6 14:29:52 2000 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:29:52 EDT Subject: OFF CD burner software Message-ID: In a message dated 04/06/2000 2:04:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US writes: << I will burn all branch disks using Exact Audio Copy and disc-at-once capable software >> Is this the recommended software for burning CDs? I just got a CD-burner with my new computer, and the software it came with advises that special software be used when making audio CDs. SET From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Thu Apr 6 19:49:40 2000 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 19:49:40 BST Subject: HW - Garibaldi's back!!! Message-ID: Hello Everyone, Andy, in the course of your investigations into the 'BBC Sessions' cd, did you find out when it was recordrd? All best Mick. -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Apr 6 14:56:43 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 19:56:43 +0100 Subject: off: GYBE, SR etc... In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000406111857.00980da0@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: > *Especially* judging from his lyrics! Lots of very blatant innuendo there > (certainly in retrospect), and isn't the whole tough-biker-in-leather > schtick (remember the guy in the Village People?) sort of homoerotic to > begin with ... ? I'll have to ask some of my gay friends if they ever had > a boyhood crush on Eric Bloom! > I'd have thought it was a dead giveaway around the time of "Hell Bent for Leather." ;) -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Apr 6 14:01:06 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 14:01:06 -0400 Subject: off: GaYBE, SR etc... Message-ID: >On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 07:40:12 EDT, "Ted Jackson jr." > wrote: >>On 5 Apr 00, at 11:25, bart wrote: >> >>> Re: Rob Halford from a while back, I always figured the JP split was >>> resultant to his affirmation of an 'alternate lifestyle'. Could be >>> wrong though. >> >>I may be an old cynic but I thought that Rob's coming out was a >>publicity ploy. How could he play in a band with 4 other guys for 15 >>years and nobody could figure out he's gay? Mebbe he had his index fingers surgically shortened. :) Well, I could never figure out how the guys in Monty Python didn't know Graham Chapman was gay, but then maybe it was because he often played gay characters on the show and they must have just considered him to be such a great actor that they never considered the possibility. :) Rule No. 1 - No Poufta's! (Is that how you spell it? That euphemism doesn't exist here.) Grakkl (FAA) P.S. In how many states was Rob H. 'breaking the law'? :) From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Thu Apr 6 15:03:58 2000 From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 15:03:58 -0400 Subject: off: GYBE, SR etc... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >I'd have thought it was a dead giveaway around the time of "Hell Bent for >Leather." Isn't that Hell bent OVER for leather? OOPS sorry couldn't resist. Mike From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Thu Apr 6 15:06:20 2000 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:06:20 +0100 Subject: Fw: Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: nigel.kew To: LISTSERV at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 03 April 2000 21:24 SET BOC-L NOMAIL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Thu Apr 6 15:20:22 2000 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 15:20:22 -0400 Subject: Planetary Alignments Message-ID: All I know is that my project for work is due on May 5th and it ain't gonna happen. I have since renamed the May 5th holiday to "Sink-o d' Me-o Day" > -----Original Message----- > From: Zeitgeist [SMTP:stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK] > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 12:03 PM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: OFF: Planetary Alignments > > Can anyone confirm whether or not on May 5th? The Earth, Moon, Sun, > Mercury, > Venus, Mars, Saturn & Jupiter will all be aligned (in a straight line) for > the first time in 6000 years. It's all of the ancient Gods lined up at the > same time! Apparently, the astronomers and astrologers were jumping up and > down and foaming at the mouth the last time we had a four planetary > alignment in the early sixties which some say heralded "Flower Power" > > > Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK > > "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" > > http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com > http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Thu Apr 6 20:26:22 2000 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 20:26:22 BST Subject: HW Andy G'b - Dave Brock & his Baton 1982-3 Message-ID: Hello Everyone' M Holmes wrote: > > "At a HAWKWIND concert in London this week, bouncers felt compelled to use > >excessive violence when restraining the sci-fi rock group's fans. In turn, > >vocalist Bob Calvert threatened the bemuscled morons with a microphone > >stand > >to save his followers from serious injury. (See, the hippie dream still > >lives!)" > >A real man's microphone stand. This reminds me of an incident which occurred at the Guild Hall in Preston during the 1988 (if I remember right) tour. There were a number of very animated fans in front of the stage who were jumping about wildly. Early in the set, the band began to play 'Needle Gun' and as Dave approached the mic one of these 'fans' lunged forward and pulled over his mic stand just as he was about to sing. Anyway as the band played on, a very angry Dave unslung his guitar and swung it down vertically towards the guilty one's head but, of course, stopping before making contact. Dave soon returned to the now upright stand to begin singing, however, the first line or two of the song were out of sync to the music, but it soon came right. It was only a minor incident, but for a second I really thought he was going to let him have it. So if any of you have got a tape from this gig and wondered why 'Needle Gun' may not sound quite right at the beginning, now you know. All the best Mick > -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Apr 6 16:54:03 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:54:03 EDT Subject: Fwd: OFF: Planetary Alignments Message-ID: hi gang, i forwarded this thread to a friend, writer Lawrence Watt-Evans. At 02:16 PM 4/6/00 EDT, DASLUD at aol.com wrote: > >"Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]" wrote: >> The last time that they were aligned was February 1962 in Aquarius. >====== >Hmm, is this what that Age of Aquarius stuff was about? No. The astrological age is determined by precession of the vernal equinox, not by planetary alignments. The equinox shifted from Pisces to Aquarius some time in the last third of the twentieth century, but exactly when depends on where you draw the imaginary line between constellations. Astrological ages last either 2,300 or 2,600 years -- I forget which because I get them mixed up with a Hindu unit of time called a kalpa. I think it's 2,300. Anyway, the Piscean Age, which began when Rome was a republic, ended a few years back and we're now in the Aquarian Age. (The line in the song about "When the Moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter aligns with Mars" is pure bullshit written simply to fit the meter -- moon signs and planetary alignments have nothing to do with it, Juputer aligns with Mars about every two years, and the Moon is in Libra about thirteen times a year.) -- Lawrence The Misenchanted Page is at http://www.sff.net/people/LWE/ I also maintain pages at http://www.watt-evans.com and http://www.ethshar.com My latest novel is DRAGON WEATHER. NIGHT OF MADNESS is coming in November ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: fr From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Apr 6 17:35:06 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:35:06 +0100 Subject: OFF: Dark Orange Sun Goblin Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: K Henderson To: Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 4:47 PM Subject: OFF: Dark Orange Sun Goblin > >On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, Jill Strobridge wrote: > > > >> ObNewCD - Orange Goblin - Motorhead meets Hawkwind - why have these > >> guys never played at Pentrich! > > > > Ooh! Is that the new one? I've been waiting for that ever since I > >heard it would have a track on it called `You'll Never Get To The Moon In > >That'... > > > > Ah, no, a brief trawl of says > >it's not out till May 1st so you've presumably got one of the other two, > >both of which are very fine. Rawk. > > Well, I already know promo copies are out in the world. A guy at Sonic > Unyon has already promised to burn me a copy of his. So it may be the new > one she's talking about. Nah - I'm not that uptodate! It's one of the other ones and a mighty powerful turntable melting (well ok -it's a CD but that kindof thing) sound it is too! They are playing in Edinburgh soon and I was wondering if should go along. jill > > Grakkl (FAA) > From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Apr 6 17:36:24 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:36:24 +0100 Subject: HW: Glastonbury 2000 Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Zeitgeist To: Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: HW: Glastonbury 2000 HW may end being there but who's got ?87 plus booking fee plus travelling expenses to get there? umm me! jill From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Apr 6 17:40:21 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:40:21 +0100 Subject: OFF: Planetary Alignments Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Zeitgeist To: Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: OFF: Planetary Alignments > Can anyone confirm whether or not on May 5th? The Earth, Moon, Sun, Mercury, > Venus, Mars, Saturn & Jupiter will all be aligned (in a straight line) for > the first time in 6000 years. It's all of the ancient Gods lined up at the So that's why the Stock Market computers crashed! Heh However the Listserv seems to be fine. Thank you to those involved for managing that changeover so efficiently! jill From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Apr 6 18:57:24 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:57:24 +0100 Subject: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely Message-ID: There I was web-surfing, and came across the Simon House homepage. http://www.rust.net/~shouse/homepage.htm -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Apr 6 19:25:16 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 19:25:16 -0400 Subject: OFF: WEEDSPORT featuring BORN to GO Message-ID: I'll be spacerock fan #2 at the show if you do it.... >There has been talk of doing both again this year. If we thought that there >were gonna be >a bunch of hardcore SpaceRocking fans there, we might be more likely to do >it.... > >I wouldn't want the experience of a bunch o' folk thinking that BORN to GO >invented SpaceRock to happen again. Well, some people thought Zeppelin invented the blues. These people eventually found their way to Muddy Waters and Willie Dixon (and so on until they discovered that no one invented it ;-) So I guess the lesson is, if they think BORN to GO invented space rock, that's fine- as long as you remember to credit your sources. ;-) Bringin' it on home, Brian ----- Brian Halligan mailto:blackblade at bhalligan.com http://www.bhalligan.com/ From shmucking at YAHOO.COM Thu Apr 6 19:41:21 2000 From: shmucking at YAHOO.COM (Ian Rosen) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:41:21 -0700 Subject: HW: Doremi Fasol Latido on CD? Message-ID: Hi Fil, I'll check on the dates tonight. One was with Bridget Wishart and the other was about a year earlier. Both are from L.A. Thanks for writing to me! It's a pleasure to meet other hawkfans. Ian --- Filip Vanhuyse wrote: > Hello Ian, > > Welcome to the BOC-L list. > Yes,the 'Doremi' is on CD. > You should try to get the EMI remastered one. > The 'One Way' is a good alternative. > The Japanese one is a hell of a job to find ! > What are the dates of the 2 LA gigs ? > > greetings > filip hawknut > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ian Rosen > To: > Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2000 6:49 AM > Subject: HW: Doremi Fasol Latido on CD? > > > > Is Doremi Fasol Latido available on CD? > > > > It's my favorite Hawkwind album and I have it on > > vinyl. But don't have it on CD. > > > > By the way, this is my first message on this list. > > I'm a big-time Hawkwind fan. I have two of their > > concerts on tape: both in LA from the early 90's. > I > > got into Hawkwind from my liking for the group > > Motorhead. Hawkwind is awesome! > > > > Glad to be on board the Hawkwind spaceship. I'm > > looking forward to getting spaced out with you > all. > > > > Ian > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://im.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From shmucking at YAHOO.COM Thu Apr 6 19:42:49 2000 From: shmucking at YAHOO.COM (Ian Rosen) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:42:49 -0700 Subject: HW: Doremi Fasol Latido on CD? Message-ID: Thanks for the tip. Another hawkfan just wrote to me and has a spare copy. So I'm in luck! Talk to you later. Ian --- Tim Gadd wrote: > At 09:49 PM 4/4/00 -0700, Ian Rosen wrote: > >Is Doremi Fasol Latido available on CD? > > > >It's my favorite Hawkwind album and I have it on > >vinyl. But don't have it on CD. > > > Hi. I have Doremi on CD on the One-Way label. It's a > very good > transcription; don't know what other labels are > like. I think it's out of > print, but it's not hard to get used. There are > nearly always some on e-bay; > the last three were offered up for between $10 and > $15 and none of them sold. > -- > Tim Gadd > Hobart, Tasmania > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Apr 6 20:04:21 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:04:21 -0700 Subject: OFF: WEEDSPORT featuring BORN to GO Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 19:25:16 -0400, Brian Halligan wrote: >Well, some people thought Zeppelin invented the blues. These people >eventually found their way to Muddy Waters and Willie Dixon (and so on >until they discovered that no one invented it ;-) So I guess the lesson is, >if they think BORN to GO invented space rock, that's fine- as long as you >remember to credit your sources. ;-) ... and today, there are thousands of kids who believe that Ska was invented by the English in the 1970s (not to mention those who think it was invented by Americans in the 90s!). And either way, believe that it was derived *from* Jamaican Reggae (these are the "smarter" ones). I've probably used up my off-topic quota for the day, so I'll shut up and start saving up for my rant about how the Beach Boys invented spacerock, -Doug ceres at sirius.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Apr 6 19:31:59 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 19:31:59 -0400 Subject: HW: Glaster Vote Message-ID: Hi Folks... Here's the final rundown... TOP 10 votegetters... 1) Neil Finn 894 2) A-Ha 863 3) Hawkwind 751 4) Radiohead 612 5) Duran Duran 542 6) All Star United 530 7) Oasis 394 8) David Bowie 356 9) Marillion 328 10) Deep Jeep 324 Mostly rubbish, ain't it? Who the hell are All Star U. and Deep Jeep? I already asked about A-Ha....I guess they were popular in that 80s age that I absolutely loathe. You know, Duran Duran and that horrific schlock. :) Best of the rest... Cardiacs 174 Tangerine Dream 125 Pink Floyd 109 Fish 84 Ozric Tentacles 65 Gong 29 Dark Aether Project 16 GYBE 15 Britney Spheres 11 Dark Star 9 System 7 8 Spinal Tap 7 Fairport Convention 6 Eat Static 6 Born to Go* 6 Rush 5 Porcupine Tree 5 Nebula Trip 3 Blue Oyster Cult 3 (Is the list *that* one-sided??) Stereolab 2 Poisoned Electrick Head 2 Nik Turner's AllStars 2 Mr. Quimby's Beard 2 Eloy 2 Spectrum 1 Roky Erickson 1 (Fans tripping too much to log on) Monster Magnet 1 (Fans too stoned to log on) Mandragora 1 Kid Rock 1 (Ummmm...kinda tells you something about this vote) Dr. Brown 1 Alien Planetscapes 1 *(There were more for BORN TO GO, with the little Norwegian slashes, but those have vanished sadly. I think there were between 10 to 15 there. So they did better than it seemed. Too bad they'll now be replaced by Ginger Spice.) Grakkl (FAA) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Apr 6 21:41:29 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 18:41:29 -0700 Subject: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:57:24 +0100, Andy Gilham wrote: >There I was web-surfing, and came across the Simon House homepage. > >http://www.rust.net/~shouse/homepage.htm Ha! Not nearly as bad as the other (American) Dave Brock (well, actually David)! And then there was the original drummer for the Barracudas (later in Lords of the New Church IIRC), Nick Turner ... Any more Hawkwind doppelgangers (OK, namesakes) out there? -Doug ceres at sirius.com From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Apr 6 22:57:14 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:57:14 -0400 Subject: HW: Glaster Vote Message-ID: Keith "Grakkl" (?) Henderson wrote: >Best of the rest... [...] >Blue Oyster Cult 3 (Is the list *that* one-sided??) I did the one vote and done routine and figured that HW had history at the festival, so it would be nice to get them back in. I'll vote for BOC to play OzzFest, a Sci-Fi Channel special, or on the Heavy Metal 2 soundtrack. :-) Into the whirlpool where matter vanishes, Brian ----- Brian Halligan mailto:blackblade at bhalligan.com http://www.bhalligan.com/ From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Fri Apr 7 01:06:44 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 07:06:44 +0200 Subject: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely Message-ID: Hello all, At a record-fair some 2 years ago I found in the section Hawkwind/related a single from NICK TURNER : Run Like The Wind/I Rather Rock Than Dancing Jack ASH RECORDS ASH050. Sounds like Johnny Logan (yes,the one that won twice Eurosongfestival) Showed it to the Mad Saxman himself and had a great laugh. Promised Nik if I ever find another copy,it's one for him Has anyone in the meantime any idea who that other Nick is? greetings filip hawknut ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Pearson To: Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 3:41 AM Subject: Re: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely > On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:57:24 +0100, Andy Gilham > wrote: > >There I was web-surfing, and came across the Simon House homepage. > > > >http://www.rust.net/~shouse/homepage.htm > > Ha! Not nearly as bad as the other (American) Dave Brock (well, actually > David)! And then there was the original drummer for the Barracudas (later > in Lords of the New Church IIRC), Nick Turner ... > > Any more Hawkwind doppelgangers (OK, namesakes) out there? > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Apr 7 01:17:50 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 15:17:50 +1000 Subject: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely Message-ID: At 11:57 PM 4/6/00 +0100, Andy Gilham wrote: >There I was web-surfing, and came across the Simon House homepage. > >http://www.rust.net/~shouse/homepage.htm I recall there was some B horror movie made in the 60's or 70's called "The (something something) of Simon House (or King. I forget). -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Fri Apr 7 02:40:05 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 07:40:05 +0100 Subject: OFF: UFO Live CD Message-ID: Live in Texas 1979 out on Essential/Castle. A reissue of "Parkers Birthday"? in new cover. Phil Mogg sounding a tad the worse for wear:-) when talking between songs. And it's Tonka on guitar. Marvellous nonetheless. New UFO CD with Mad Mikkey later this year, recorded in LA recently. Stuart Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Jackson jr. [mailto:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU] > Sent: 06 April 2000 18:09 > Subject: Re: HW: Glastonbury 2000 > > > On 6 Apr 00, at 17:02, Zeitgeist wrote: > > > HW may end being there but who's got ?87 plus booking fee plus > > travelling expenses to get there? > > > > Stuart > > NP UFO - Live In Texas > > Yo! What's this UFO disc? Schenker on it? > theo > From Bert.Hulshoff at NN.DHV.NL Fri Apr 7 02:42:30 2000 From: Bert.Hulshoff at NN.DHV.NL (Bert.Hulshoff at NN.DHV.NL) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 08:42:30 +0200 Subject: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely Message-ID: > Any more Hawkwind doppelgangers (OK, namesakes) out there? > > > Robert Calvert sax with Mother Gong greetings bert From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Fri Apr 7 02:40:09 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 07:40:09 +0100 Subject: off: GYBE, SR etc... Message-ID: Round our way we always sang "Well Bent For Trevor" during gigs as far back as 1980. Hardly a secret. Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael S. Habiby [mailto:cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET] > Sent: 06 April 2000 20:04 > Subject: Re: off: GYBE, SR etc... > > > >I'd have thought it was a dead giveaway around the time of "Hell Bent for > >Leather." > > Isn't that Hell bent OVER for leather? OOPS sorry couldn't resist. > > Mike > From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Fri Apr 7 04:00:01 2000 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:00:01 +0100 Subject: OFF: Orange Goblin Message-ID: Spotted this in my in tray this morning - is this the Orange Goblin I've heard discussed on the list ?? THE VICTORIA INN, DERBY GIG GUIDE - MAY 2000 ========================================== Tue 16th May 2000 ORANGE GOBLIN +GOATSNAKE +SUN Rock 6.00 Adv 7.50 Door ========================================== Mark (Hasbeen) mark at esparto.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ END MESSAGE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Fri Apr 7 04:25:12 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:25:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Glastonbury 2000 Message-ID: Ah, an employed person! That's what they look like. I remember when I was a lad, we all had jobs in those days. Full employment, jumpers for goalposts, marvellous:-) Stuart Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: Jill Strobridge [mailto:jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK] > Sent: 06 April 2000 22:36 > Subject: Re: HW: Glastonbury 2000 > HW may end being there but who's got ?87 plus booking fee plus > travelling > expenses to get there? > > umm > me! > jill > From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Fri Apr 7 04:29:51 2000 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:29:51 +0100 Subject: HW: Glastonbury 2000 Message-ID: >-----Original Message----- >From: Jill Strobridge [mailto:jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK] >Sent: 06 April 2000 22:36 >Subject: Re: HW: Glastonbury 2000 > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Zeitgeist >To: >Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2000 5:02 PM >Subject: HW: Glastonbury 2000 > > >HW may end being there but who's got ?87 plus booking fee plus >travelling >expenses to get there? > >umm >me! >jill Errr, Me too ! (unless of course I splurge it all on catalogue items in the recently received mail from CD Services - Cheers Andy.) Mark (Hasbeen) mark at esparto.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ END MESSAGE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Apr 7 05:35:54 2000 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Zebulon Mysterioso) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:35:54 GMT Subject: Planetary Alignments Message-ID: They're OK, the Last Days of May, I'll be breathing dry air, I'm leaving soon, As the Earth falls into the sun. Venus and Jupiter pulled us apart, And Mars assisted too, And the Wings of Mercury dealt the final blow. Nyuck nyuck nyuck. > > Can anyone confirm whether or not on May 5th? The Earth, Moon, Sun, > > Mercury, > > Venus, Mars, Saturn & Jupiter will all be aligned (in a straight line) >for > > the first time in 6000 years. It's all of the ancient Gods lined up at >the > > same time! Apparently, the astronomers and astrologers were jumping up >and > > down and foaming at the mouth the last time we had a four planetary > > alignment in the early sixties which some say heralded "Flower Power" > > > > > > Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK > > > > "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing >by" > > > > http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com > > http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Apr 7 06:32:21 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:32:21 +0100 Subject: HW: Glastonbury 2000 In-Reply-To: Zeitgeist's message of Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:02:28 +0100 Message-ID: Zeitgeist writes: > HW may end being there but who's got ?87 plus booking fee plus travelling > expenses to get there? It surely ain't cheap. I usually have to budget 300 Pounds to get to Glasters and back. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Apr 7 06:34:55 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:34:55 +0100 Subject: OFF: Planetary Alignments In-Reply-To: Zeitgeist's message of Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:02:30 +0100 Message-ID: Zeitgeist writes: > Can anyone confirm whether or not on May 5th? The Earth, Moon, Sun, > Mercury, Venus, Mars, Saturn & Jupiter will all be aligned (in a > straight line) If by "a straight line" you'll accept 15 degree variations then yes. The Moon/Mars/Jupiter/Saturn conjunction in one part of the sky should make a pretty picture. > for the first time in 6000 years. Dunno about that. > It's all of the > ancient Gods lined up at the same time! Apparently, the astronomers > and astrologers were jumping up and down and foaming at the mouth the > last time we had a four planetary alignment in the early sixties which > some say heralded "Flower Power" Mike "This is the dawning of the age of Ophiucus" Holmes From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Apr 7 06:37:00 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:37:00 +0100 Subject: OFF: Planetary Alignments In-Reply-To: Andy Gilham's message of Thu, 6 Apr 2000 17:24:50 +0100 Message-ID: Andy Gilham writes: > I heard something on the radio about this this morning... soon after sunset > in the west, you'll be able to see the Moon, Jupiter, Saturn and (I think) > Venus all at once. Which is unusual. ^^^^^ Mars I suspect. The J/S/M lineup has been getting steadily closer the last few months and it's been beautiful to watch. Uranus and Neptune were close too (and presumably still are) but they're binocular objects. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Apr 7 06:43:49 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:43:49 +0100 Subject: OFF: Planetary Alignments In-Reply-To: K Henderson's message of Thu, 6 Apr 2000 11:43:31 -0400 Message-ID: > LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Next month, the sun and six of the planets > will line up like cosmic billiard balls in a configuration > doomsayers warn could shift the Earth's poles, trigger earthquakes, This is bollocks. The combined gravity of all the planets would amount to just over 1% of the gravity of the Moon, due to relative distances. As the distance of the Moon varies enough that we routinely experience that variation without ill-effect, it's transparently bollocks too. > ruin the stock market IMHO very likely, though the cause will be the usual two-generational orgy of borrowing and greed rather than any planetary effects. Odds are that those who are doing the borrowing and exercising their greed will look for anything or anyone to blame but themselves, so expect planets/brokers/bears/etc to come in for a hard time. Hell they may even blame evil rock music. > and usher in the Age of Aquarius if anyone > survives. I'm expecting the Age of The Debt Collector. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Apr 7 06:49:25 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:49:25 +0100 Subject: Fwd: OFF: Planetary Alignments In-Reply-To: DASLUD@AOL.COM's message of Thu, 6 Apr 2000 16:54:03 EDT Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: > No. The astrological age is determined by precession of the vernal > equinox, not by planetary alignments. The equinox shifted from Pisces > to Aquarius some time in the last third of the twentieth century, but > exactly when depends on where you draw the imaginary line between > constellations. > Astrological ages last either 2,300 or 2,600 years -- I forget which > because I get them mixed up with a Hindu unit of time called a kalpa. > I think it's 2,300. Anyway, the Piscean Age, which began when Rome > was a republic, ended a few years back and we're now in the Aquarian > Age. > (The line in the song about "When the Moon is in the seventh house and > Jupiter aligns with Mars" is pure bullshit written simply to fit the > meter -- moon signs and planetary alignments have nothing to do with > it, Juputer aligns with Mars about every two years, and the Moon is in > Libra about thirteen times a year.) That's pretty good. Set it to music and we'll release it as "The Skeptic's Lament" FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Apr 7 06:50:45 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:50:45 +0100 Subject: OFF: Planetary Alignments In-Reply-To: Jill Strobridge's message of Thu, 6 Apr 2000 22:40:21 +0100 Message-ID: Jill Strobridge writes: > > Can anyone confirm whether or not on May 5th? The Earth, Moon, Sun, > Mercury, > > Venus, Mars, Saturn & Jupiter will all be aligned (in a straight line) > for > > the first time in 6000 years. It's all of the ancient Gods lined up at > the > > So that's why the Stock Market computers crashed! Nah. That was The Millenium Bug!! Mike "last tax day of the last tax year of the millenium" Holmes From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Apr 7 10:26:26 2000 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:26:26 -0500 Subject: OFF: Backwards Masking--Listen to the Music! Message-ID: Kind of interesting though no BOC or HW yet . . . http://gruel.spc.uchicago.edu/Backmask/music.html -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri Apr 7 11:07:05 2000 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 23:07:05 +0800 Subject: OFF: Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame Message-ID: Hi there Someone on another newsgroup found the following item, which is an interesting read, so I thought I'd forward it on. William ROCK HALL SNUBS ARTISTS OF '70S The Plain Dealer Cleveland, Ohio March 5, 2000 by Clint O'Connor It's only fitting that the decade known for Nixon's ruin and really bad haircuts is being largely ignored by the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum. The rock hall's all-powerful New York foundation and its nominating committee regularly snub early '70s artists from induction into that weird building on the lake with no parking. The New York nominators look at the '60s and see the Beatles, the Rolling Stones and Jimi Hendrix. They look at the '70s and see a vast wasteland of initials: BTO, REO, ELO. But the big rock clock is ticking. The hall which holds its annual induction ceremony tomorrow in New York faces a dilemma: What to do now that it's running out of seminal '60s artists? The prerequisite for induction, that you must have released your first record at least 25 years ago, has brought us to 1975. Potential inductees are nominated by a committee at the New York Foundation. Ballots are then sent to about 1,000 "rock experts." The rock hall has done a wonderful job of recognizing rock's early influences and nonperformers, and honoring a bevy of solid-gold R&B talent. But now, going by the minus-25 rule, they are knee-deep in the album-rock era, while ignoring some of its most prolific purveyors. They have repeatedly shunned early-'70s bands and singers, or artists who started out in the '60s but made their biggest mark in the '70s: Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Steely Dan, Jethro Tull, Little Feat, War, Yes, Alice Cooper, King Crimson, Mott the Hoople, Roxy Music, Boz Scaggs, Ry Cooder and Bob Seger, to name a few. Singer-songwriters like Jackson Browne and Cat Stevens have also been ostracized, as have '70s siren Linda Ronstadt, rock heavyweight Leon Russell, and writer-producer-performer-engineer (he'd probably change your tires if you asked) Todd Rundgren. There's also Canton's the O'Jays, Chicago, the Marshall Tucker Band, Lynyrd Skynyrd, and the everlasting Texas trio ZZ Top. All are eligible. Only four have been nominated: the O'Jays, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Steely Dan, and Black Sabbath, which has been on the ballot three times. (Last year, Sabbath frontman Ozzy Osbourne grew weary of the process and asked that the band's name be withdrawn.) Most of them will probably never make it because their decade is utterly overshadowed by the '60s. And there are still plenty of performers from the '60s waiting for the nod: Joe Cocker, the Moody Blues, Traffic, Procol Harum, the Turtles, Neil Diamond, Judy Collins. Cocker is a likely addition. The Moody Blues have lost points because they look kind of old and annoying now on their PBS specials. The rest don't have much of a chance, except perhaps Traffic. The rock hall has to figure out some way to get the multitalented Steve Winwood inducted, and it might as well be with the innovative Traffic. One fact in favor of early '70s artists is that the rock hall has already lowered the bar. The Mamas and the Papas are enshrined. The Lovin' Spoonful goes in tomorrow. Translation: Everyone, including Uncle Ernie's Skiffle Flaggers, is now eligible. The rock hall can no longer posture about the sanctity of its honorees, not with the Young Rascals and Four Seasons taking up space. The good news: The rock hall has already inducted Led Zeppelin, David Bowie, Bruce Springsteen, Elton John, Bob Marley, Pink Floyd, the Allman Brothers Band, Carlos Santana, the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac, artists with enormous effect on the '70s and beyond. James Taylor, Bonnie Raitt and Earth, Wind & Fire will be added tomorrow. So the nominators are far from blind. It's more like tunnel vision. They seem so caught up in rock-righteous explanations of "importance" and "influence" that they have forgotten which performers people were going to see in concert back then, what albums they were listening to. The hall also needs more women. Now that Raitt is going in, does that help Linda Ronstadt's chances? If she is voted in, will that open the doors for Carly Simon, Roberta Flack, Emmylou Harris, Janis Ian and Joan Armatrading? They could languish for years, dismissed as too soft (Simon and Flack), too country (Harris), too Joan Baezish (Ian) or, like Armatrading, too removed from the mainstream. Still, they need bodies. Somebody has to bridge the gap between the '60s superstars and the late-'70s/early '80s critics' darlings like the Sex Pistols, Talking Heads, Police, the Clash, U2 and R.E.M. Those New York gatekeepers are going to have to break down and invite some '70s album-rockers. But who, and when? (c)2000 The Plain Dealer ********** From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Fri Apr 7 11:10:47 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:10:47 -0400 Subject: SLOTERDIJK prsents THE DRUID'S BALL, SAT APRIL 15TH FREE!!! Message-ID: http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS -------------- next part -------------- http://www.njrocks.com/gigs/messages/3208.html From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Apr 7 11:29:58 2000 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 10:29:58 -0500 Subject: HW: from ansible Message-ID: I just caught this snippet in the latest issue of David Langford's Ansible, http://www.ansible.co.uk/, a sf fanzine: SMALL PRESS. _Gnawing Medusa's Flesh_ is Steve Sneyd's overview of Robert (Hawkwind) Calvert's sf poetry, with bio-biblio-discography. #3.49 or $7 from 4 Nowell Place, Almondbury, Huddersfield, HD5 8PB. fyi. Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Fri Apr 7 12:11:41 2000 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:11:41 -0400 Subject: OFF: Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, I already had my say about the RNRHoF a couple of years ago, but this latest trend just adds "sanctimoniousness" to their list of crimes. They'll probably induct Clapton 25 more times before they ever get to a band that I really like. Steve swann at plutonia.com On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 11:07:05PM +0800, William Duffy wrote: > Hi there > > Someone on another newsgroup found the following item, which is an > interesting read, so I thought I'd forward it on. > > William > > > ROCK HALL SNUBS ARTISTS OF '70S > The Plain Dealer > Cleveland, Ohio > March 5, 2000 > by Clint O'Connor > > It's only fitting that the decade known for Nixon's ruin and really > bad haircuts is being largely ignored by the Rock and Roll Hall of > Fame and Museum. The rock hall's all-powerful New York foundation and > its nominating committee regularly snub early '70s artists from > induction into that weird building on the lake with no parking. > > The New York nominators look at the '60s and see the Beatles, the > Rolling Stones and Jimi Hendrix. They look at the '70s and see a vast > wasteland of initials: BTO, REO, ELO. > > But the big rock clock is ticking. The hall which holds its annual > induction ceremony tomorrow in New York faces a dilemma: What to do > now that it's running out of seminal '60s artists? The prerequisite > for induction, that you must have released your first record at least > 25 years ago, has brought us to 1975. > > Potential inductees are nominated by a committee at the New York > Foundation. Ballots are then sent to about 1,000 "rock experts." The > rock hall has done a wonderful job of recognizing rock's early > influences and nonperformers, and honoring a bevy of solid-gold R&B > talent. But now, going by the minus-25 rule, they are knee-deep in > the album-rock era, while ignoring some of its most prolific > purveyors. They have repeatedly shunned early-'70s bands and singers, > or artists who started out in the '60s but made their biggest mark in > the '70s: > > Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Steely Dan, Jethro Tull, Little Feat, > War, Yes, Alice Cooper, King Crimson, Mott the Hoople, Roxy Music, > Boz Scaggs, Ry Cooder and Bob Seger, to name a few. > > Singer-songwriters like Jackson Browne and Cat Stevens have also been > ostracized, as have '70s siren Linda Ronstadt, rock heavyweight Leon > Russell, and writer-producer-performer-engineer (he'd probably change > your tires if you asked) Todd Rundgren. There's also Canton's the > O'Jays, Chicago, the Marshall Tucker Band, Lynyrd Skynyrd, and the > everlasting Texas trio ZZ Top. > > All are eligible. Only four have been nominated: the O'Jays, Lynyrd > Skynyrd, Steely Dan, and Black Sabbath, which has been on the ballot > three times. (Last year, Sabbath frontman Ozzy Osbourne grew weary of > the process and asked that the band's name be withdrawn.) Most of > them will probably never make it because their decade is utterly > overshadowed by the '60s. And there are still plenty of performers > from the '60s waiting for the nod: Joe Cocker, the Moody Blues, > Traffic, Procol Harum, the Turtles, Neil Diamond, Judy Collins. > > Cocker is a likely addition. The Moody Blues have lost points because > they look kind of old and annoying now on their PBS specials. The > rest don't have much of a chance, except perhaps Traffic. The rock > hall has to figure out some way to get the multitalented Steve > Winwood inducted, and it might as well be with the innovative Traffic. > > One fact in favor of early '70s artists is that the rock hall has > already lowered the bar. The Mamas and the Papas are enshrined. The > Lovin' Spoonful goes in tomorrow. Translation: Everyone, including > Uncle Ernie's Skiffle Flaggers, is now eligible. The rock hall can no > longer posture about the sanctity of its honorees, not with the Young > Rascals and Four Seasons > taking up space. > > The good news: The rock hall has already inducted Led Zeppelin, David > Bowie, Bruce Springsteen, Elton John, Bob Marley, Pink Floyd, the > Allman Brothers Band, Carlos Santana, the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac, > artists with enormous effect on the '70s and beyond. James Taylor, > Bonnie Raitt and Earth, Wind & Fire will be added tomorrow. So the > nominators are far from blind. It's more like tunnel vision. They > seem so caught up in rock-righteous explanations of "importance" and > "influence" that they have forgotten which performers people were > going to see in concert back then, what albums they were listening to. > > The hall also needs more women. Now that Raitt is going in, does that > help Linda Ronstadt's chances? If she is voted in, will that open the > doors for Carly Simon, Roberta Flack, Emmylou Harris, Janis Ian and > Joan Armatrading? > > They could languish for years, dismissed as too soft (Simon and > Flack), too country (Harris), too Joan Baezish (Ian) or, like > Armatrading, too removed from the mainstream. > > Still, they need bodies. Somebody has to bridge the gap between the > '60s superstars and the late-'70s/early '80s critics' darlings like > the Sex > Pistols, Talking Heads, Police, the Clash, U2 and R.E.M. Those New > York gatekeepers are going to have to break down and invite some '70s > album-rockers. But who, and when? > > (c)2000 The Plain Dealer > > > ********** From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Apr 7 11:52:11 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:52:11 -0400 Subject: OFF: Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame Message-ID: Swann's song goes... >They'll probably induct Clapton 25 more times before they ever get >to a band that I really like. Yeah! I was thinking the same thing. On that Steve Winwood/Traffic thing (below), I was saying to myself...well, why not vote in Blind Faith which would give them *another* reason to invite Clapton once more. I caught part of the E.C. interview on 60 minutes here, and (of course) the obligatory 'strung out on drugs' until XXXX date, and then clean ever since, and how much life is better now....that was all there, but what they failed to explain was why it is that all of his music has absolutely sucked since becoming sober. For once I'd like to hear them try to explain that in a politically-correct atmosphere. Or 'haze', I should say. >On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 11:07:05PM +0800, William Duffy wrote: >> It's only fitting that the decade known for Nixon's ruin and really >> bad haircuts is being largely ignored by the Rock and Roll Hall of >> Fame and Museum. Thank God. I don't want there to be anything included that would make me consider going to visit the damn thing. With luck, Lake Erie will continue migrating southward and take the thing out into the water and over Niagara Falls. I'd pay to watch that! >> (Last year, Sabbath frontman Ozzy Osbourne grew weary of >> the process and asked that the band's name be withdrawn.) Good for you, Ozzy. It would be best for them to skip the whole thing now. Christ, 1970-75 likely produced over half of my favourite 100 rock albums of all time (if I were to compile such a list). I'm fine with *my* RnRHoF being the antithesis of theirs. >> Most of them will probably never make it because their decade is utterly >> overshadowed by the '60s. Ha! Social upheaval...yes. Rock music...total bollocks. >> The Moody Blues have lost points because they look kind of old and annoying >> now on their PBS specials. "Kind of"?? :) Well, who doesn't? That doesn't explain the Rolling Stones being in. >> The >> rest don't have much of a chance, except perhaps Traffic. The rock >> hall has to figure out some way to get the multitalented Steve >> Winwood inducted, and it might as well be with the innovative Traffic. Wow! Multitalented...oooh, he could sing *and* play keyboards. No one else ever tried that before! :) And innovative! Doesn't get much more innovative than Traffic, fer chrissakes! :) OK, OK, I really do rather like Traffic as far as classic rock goes, but get real...talk about flowery overstatements. >> Still, they need bodies. Somebody has to bridge the gap between the >> '60s superstars and the late-'70s/early '80s critics' darlings like >> the Sex Pistols, Talking Heads, Police, the Clash, U2 and R.E.M. And don't forget Human League and Soft Cell...certainly *they* belong. (I can't wait for 2008 when New Wavers are in and Ozzy's still telling them to fuck off.) Grakkl (modified long ago from Grackle) (FAA) From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Apr 7 04:40:33 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 09:40:33 +0100 Subject: OFF: WEEDSPORT featuring BORN to GO Message-ID: > > I've probably used up my off-topic quota for the day, so I'll shut up and > start saving up for my rant about how the Beach Boys invented spacerock, > Naaah - it was Buddy Holly, with his seminal version of "It's So Easy". :-) Cheers, Rich. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Apr 7 12:44:59 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:44:59 -0400 Subject: OFF: Planetary Alignments Message-ID: Hi again, Folks... Just wondering if anyone in Scotland and/or Norway had any stories of especially intense Aurora Borealis events from the last several nights. I guess we're in the midst of a major solar storm, no doubt brought upon us by the heightened gravitional pull on the sun from all these aligning planets! Ah, no, sorry, I see we're just reaching the peak phase of our sun's 11-yr. itch. :) Gr?kkl (FAA) From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Fri Apr 7 13:58:16 2000 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:58:16 -0500 Subject: HW: instrumental hawkwind songs? Message-ID: Hiya folks, Does anyone have a list of instrumental (no lyrics) hawkwind songs? I want to burn an all-instrumental cd..... Arin -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Apr 7 14:27:34 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 04:27:34 +1000 Subject: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely Message-ID: >I recall there was some B horror movie made in the 60's or 70's called "The >(something something) of Simon House (or King. I forget). I remember now, it was actually called "Simon King of the Witches" -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Fri Apr 7 14:27:50 2000 From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:27:50 -0400 Subject: OFF CD burner software Message-ID: Far as I know that only matters in On the Fly recording. As far as duping, an on bit is an on bit and off is off. Of course, I just use what works and have done absolutely NO research into burning audio discs.. -----Original Message----- From: Steven Tice To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: Thursday, April 06, 2000 2:39 PM Subject: Re: OFF CD burner software >In a message dated 04/06/2000 2:04:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US writes: > ><< I will burn all branch disks using Exact Audio Copy and disc-at-once >capable software >> > >Is this the recommended software for burning CDs? I just got a CD-burner >with my new computer, and the software it came with advises that special >software be used when making audio CDs. > >SET From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Apr 7 14:39:11 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 19:39:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely In-Reply-To: <20000407182733.HCIR10269.mta02.mail.mel.aone.net.au@Default> Message-ID: There's always Simon King, the bloke who does wildlife photography and stuff for the BBC. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Tim Gadd > Sent: 07 April 2000 19:28 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely > > > >I recall there was some B horror movie made in the 60's or 70's > called "The > >(something something) of Simon House (or King. I forget). > > I remember now, it was actually called "Simon King of the Witches" > -- > Tim Gadd > Hobart, Tasmania > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Apr 7 14:02:12 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:02:12 -0400 Subject: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely Message-ID: Doug P. alluded... >Ha! Not nearly as bad as the other (American) Dave Brock (well, actually >David)! This guy being the conservative-republican-spouting commentator? Same views as the *real* David Brock, I'm sure! :) So who else here was freaked out by the usage of "David Brock" for songwriting credits on the Remasters of the Universe? Just doesn't fit him, y'know! >And then there was the original drummer for the Barracudas (later >in Lords of the New Church IIRC), Nick Turner ... And who's this Mick Turner guy I keep seeing? I do a double-take everytime I flip by one of his discs. And surely there are lots of Dave Anderson's and John Harrison's in the world? And we beat to death the Danny Thompson HW-Fairport confusion awhile back, didn't we? I've forgotten the details already, actually. Grakkl, or "Hugh, Lord of Langtree" (FAA) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Apr 7 15:16:57 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:16:57 -0700 Subject: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Apr 2000 14:02:12 -0400, Grakkl wrote: >Doug P. alluded... >>Ha! Not nearly as bad as the other (American) Dave Brock (well, actually >>David)! > >This guy being the conservative-republican-spouting commentator? Same views >as the *real* David Brock, I'm sure! :) Yep, that one. Formerly of 'American Spectator' magazine. >And who's this Mick Turner guy I keep seeing? I do a double-take everytime >I flip by one of his discs. He's an Australian guitar player (great musician!) who plays in the Dirty Three and was formerly in Venom P. Stinger (with Dirty Three drummer Jim White), the Sick Things, and other noise/punk bands from down under. The hype on the Dirty Three, fortunately, blew over a couple years ago, but if you're not familiar with them, I would *highly* recommend them to fans of Simon House. They're sort of a melodic/jazz/psychedelic instrumental trio, and violinist Warren Ellis is fantastically talented and capable of creating really dramatic, moving melodies and tunes. Unfortunately, his between-song banter leaves a bit to be desired, but that's really the only negative thing I could say about them. >And we beat to death the Danny Thompson HW-Fairport confusion awhile >back, didn't we? I've forgotten the details already, actually. father = folk-rock standup bassist son = thud thud drummer -Doug ceres at sirius.com From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Fri Apr 7 15:33:17 2000 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 15:33:17 -0400 Subject: OFF: Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame In-Reply-To: <200004071654.MAA23058@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 11:52:11AM -0400, K Henderson wrote: > Swann's song goes... > >They'll probably induct Clapton 25 more times before they ever get > >to a band that I really like. > [...] > I caught part of the E.C. interview on 60 minutes here, and (of course) the > obligatory 'strung out on drugs' until XXXX date, and then clean ever since, > and how much life is better now....that was all there, but what they failed > to explain was why it is that all of his music has absolutely sucked since > becoming sober. For once I'd like to hear them try to explain that in a > politically-correct atmosphere. Or 'haze', I should say. Frankly, I haven't been able to stand him ever since he became the poster child for White Boy Blues. As for his more recent material, especially the acoustic stuff (like that castrated version of Leila), well, to say that I find it torturous to listen to would be an understatement. All you'd need now is get Phil Collins to sing for him, and I'd be in musical hell. Steve swann at plutonia.com From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Apr 7 15:36:27 2000 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:36:27 -0700 Subject: instrumental hawkwind songs? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: There's quite a few, especially considering large chunks of the first album, IITBOTFTBD, and The White Zone. I did the same thing, although I cheated, including "Virgin of the World," and ending with "Tides" flowing into "The Demented Man." Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu http://members.home.net/novadrive/ > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Arin Komins > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 10:58 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: HW: instrumental hawkwind songs? > > > Hiya folks, > > Does anyone have a list of instrumental (no lyrics) hawkwind songs? > I want to burn an all-instrumental cd..... > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Apr 7 15:41:47 2000 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:41:47 -0700 Subject: OFF CD burner software In-Reply-To: <006501bfa0be$fb98f8c0$7332accf@tomb> Message-ID: I know of some who have had luck with Easy-CD Creator, which comes bundled with some burners, but as far as I know it still forces that two-second pregap between each song. I use CDRWIN (http://www.goldenhawk.com), which I like a lot. Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu http://members.home.net/novadrive/ > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Sprawl > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 11:28 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF CD burner software > > > Far as I know that only matters in On the Fly recording. > As far as duping, an on bit is an on bit and off is off. > > Of course, I just use what works and have done absolutely > NO research into burning audio discs.. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven Tice > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: Thursday, April 06, 2000 2:39 PM > Subject: Re: OFF CD burner software > > > >In a message dated 04/06/2000 2:04:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US writes: > > > ><< I will burn all branch disks using Exact Audio Copy and disc-at-once > >capable software >> > > > >Is this the recommended software for burning CDs? I just got a CD-burner > >with my new computer, and the software it came with advises that special > >software be used when making audio CDs. > > > >SET > From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Fri Apr 7 15:37:02 2000 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 20:37:02 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: SET BOC-L NOMAIL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Fri Apr 7 15:51:26 2000 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 11:51:26 -0800 Subject: OFF CD burner software Message-ID: I use the Adaptec Easy CD creator (came with my HP CD-RW drive), and it definitely does disk-at-once (i.e., no 2 second gaps). The menu option for choosing this method is not as easy to find as it should be, though. MWood NP: _Arborescence_ - Ozric Tentacles On Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:41:47 Kevin Sommers wrote: >I know of some who have had luck with Easy-CD Creator, which comes bundled >with some burners, but as far as I know it still forces that two-second >pregap between each song. I use CDRWIN (http://www.goldenhawk.com), which I >like a lot. > >Kevin Sommers > >primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu > >http://members.home.net/novadrive/ > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On >> Behalf Of Sprawl >> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 11:28 AM >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >> Subject: Re: OFF CD burner software >> >> >> Far as I know that only matters in On the Fly recording. >> As far as duping, an on bit is an on bit and off is off. >> >> Of course, I just use what works and have done absolutely >> NO research into burning audio discs.. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Steven Tice >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >> Date: Thursday, April 06, 2000 2:39 PM >> Subject: Re: OFF CD burner software >> >> >> >In a message dated 04/06/2000 2:04:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >> >blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US writes: >> > >> ><< I will burn all branch disks using Exact Audio Copy and disc-at-once >> >capable software >> >> > >> >Is this the recommended software for burning CDs? I just got a CD-burner >> >with my new computer, and the software it came with advises that special >> >software be used when making audio CDs. >> > >> >SET >> > --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. From tclark at PETRONET.NET Fri Apr 7 16:05:39 2000 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 15:05:39 -0500 Subject: OFF CD burner software Message-ID: The menu option appears when you start the recording process. Select the "advanced" notebook tab, and the option is available there. Happy Recording! Tclark Marshall Wood wrote: > I use the Adaptec Easy CD creator (came with my HP CD-RW drive), and it definitely does disk-at-once (i.e., no 2 second gaps). The menu option for choosing this method is not as easy to find as it should be, though. > > MWood > > NP: _Arborescence_ - Ozric Tentacles > > On Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:41:47 Kevin Sommers wrote: > >I know of some who have had luck with Easy-CD Creator, which comes bundled > >with some burners, but as far as I know it still forces that two-second > >pregap between each song. I use CDRWIN (http://www.goldenhawk.com), which I > >like a lot. > > > >Kevin Sommers > > > >primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu > > > >http://members.home.net/novadrive/ > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > >> Behalf Of Sprawl > >> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 11:28 AM > >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >> Subject: Re: OFF CD burner software > >> > >> > >> Far as I know that only matters in On the Fly recording. > >> As far as duping, an on bit is an on bit and off is off. > >> > >> Of course, I just use what works and have done absolutely > >> NO research into burning audio discs.. > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Steven Tice > >> To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > >> Date: Thursday, April 06, 2000 2:39 PM > >> Subject: Re: OFF CD burner software > >> > >> > >> >In a message dated 04/06/2000 2:04:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >> >blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US writes: > >> > > >> ><< I will burn all branch disks using Exact Audio Copy and disc-at-once > >> >capable software >> > >> > > >> >Is this the recommended software for burning CDs? I just got a CD-burner > >> >with my new computer, and the software it came with advises that special > >> >software be used when making audio CDs. > >> > > >> >SET > >> > > > > --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- > Share what you know. Learn what you don't. From sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK Fri Apr 7 16:05:48 2000 From: sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 21:05:48 +0100 Subject: OFF CD burner software Message-ID: Subject: Re: OFF CD burner software > I know of some who have had luck with Easy-CD Creator, which comes bundled > with some burners, but as far as I know it still forces that two-second > pregap between each song. No longer true. If you install the update from the website it adds a dao option on the burn menu that comes up when you`re ready to burn. > I use CDRWIN (http://www.goldenhawk.com), which I > like a lot. CDRwin is cool but doesn`t support all drives in some versions. I used to use this for everything but since it doesn`t support my new ricoh (well didn`t when I last checked) I switched to Nero and have zero problems. I`d recommend that happily. Si The Alice Cooper Trivia File - NEW ADDRESS! http://wkweb5.cableinet.co.uk/sihalley/tindex.html From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Fri Apr 7 16:17:26 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 15:17:26 -0500 Subject: OFF CD burner software Message-ID: > I switched to Nero Right, NERO is probably the best for features and ease of use, adaptec is generally considered junk. Check out the cdr newsgroups if you need detailed user comments. From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Apr 7 16:20:01 2000 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 21:20:01 +0100 Subject: HW: Glastonbury 2000 Message-ID: Nik Turner's Fantastic Allstars are confirmed for the Avalon field now. See www.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk which is apparently the 'official' website where the confirmed info from http://www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk/ (which I thought was the official site) comes from. Nick From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Apr 7 17:51:57 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 17:51:57 EDT Subject: No Subject Message-ID: In a message dated 4/7/00 3:44:50 PM, nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET writes: << SET BOC-L NOMAIL >> === but in the subject title, not on the page , comrade. yes? "<>" From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Apr 7 20:44:42 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 17:44:42 -0700 Subject: HW - Schulze? Good? Message-ID: A while back someone posted: Anyone make the Julian Cope event? Were Ashra Tempel any good? Well, early reports say 'under reahearsed, spacey noodling, only played for just over an hour, disappointing especially at ?20 a ticket, and Coil were better' Surprise, surprise. Andy G'b From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Apr 7 21:08:32 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:08:32 -0700 Subject: HW Message-ID: Andy, in the course of your investigations into the 'BBC Sessions' cd, did you find out when it was recordrd? All best Mick. ---------------------- What I gathered was that it was all recent '90's stuff like Mark Radckliffe session that they did and similar - the BBC don't have the original Hawkwind Top Gear session tape from whenever it was ('70? '71? - I have a tape of it somewhere) so it's highly unlikely that this one in particular is ever going to see the light of day as a CD. OH, and to the guy who joked that I'd scuppered the deal by calling Doug Smith - jeez, I wish I had THAT much power!!! Bo, the deal wasn't signed and the CD could not have come out without a signed deal by the two parties - I merely hastened the inevitable, I'm afraid. Of course, getting back to BBC stuff, why on earth someone hasn't released: 1) A stereo copy of the BBC Radio One In Concert CD or 2)The Radio One In Concert hour long broadcast live at Leicester from '88 onto CD yet is a mystery - wonder if they've lost those too? But then, we've all got tapes that are better, any way, haven't we!!! Andy G'b Andy G'b From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Fri Apr 7 18:12:07 2000 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 23:12:07 +0100 Subject: OFF CD burner software In-Reply-To: <006501bfa0be$fb98f8c0$7332accf@tomb> Message-ID: EAC is free and is highly recommended for extraction of audio from source audio CDs - it claims to be the *only* software capable of *exact* copies. CDR-Win is recommended for burning. Cracked copies of CDR-Win are reported to make bad copies. Nero, Fuerio and others are also recommended (I prefer Nero). Adaptec's offerings have the lowest reputation of all burning software. Alasdair On 7 Apr 00, at 14:27, Sprawl wrote: > Far as I know that only matters in On the Fly recording. > As far as duping, an on bit is an on bit and off is off. > > Of course, I just use what works and have done absolutely > NO research into burning audio discs.. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steven Tice > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: Thursday, April 06, 2000 2:39 PM > Subject: Re: OFF CD burner software > > > >In a message dated 04/06/2000 2:04:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US writes: > > > ><< I will burn all branch disks using Exact Audio Copy and > >disc-at-once capable software >> > > > >Is this the recommended software for burning CDs? I just got a > >CD-burner with my new computer, and the software it came with advises > >that special software be used when making audio CDs. > > > >SET > -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Apr 7 18:16:24 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:16:24 EDT Subject: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely Message-ID: In a message dated 4/7/00 11:37:56 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > There's always Simon King, the bloke who does wildlife photography and stuff > for the BBC. > > -- Andy > Yes, and the *other* Residents who contributed music to some nature programs... just kidding, Chuck From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Fri Apr 7 18:23:53 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 00:23:53 +0200 Subject: HW:Guy Thomas Message-ID: Hello Guy, Sorry to do this through the BOC-L list,but some year ago you had some Hawkwind-items to sell. Have lost the list and are there still some items you wanne sell?? please contact me !! best wishes filip hawknut -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Apr 7 18:52:59 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:52:59 -0400 Subject: OFF CD burner software In-Reply-To: <200004072213.XAA19981@avalon.netcom.net.uk>; from alimac@NETCOMUK.CO.UK on Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 11:12:07PM +0100 Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 11:12:07PM +0100, Alasdair Macdonald wrote: > EAC is free and is highly recommended for extraction of audio from > source audio CDs - it claims to be the *only* software capable of > *exact* copies. Getting back an exact copy of a CD's data isn't straightforward, because the CD-audio format was never designed to guarantee a perfect read, only to be good-enough-for-audio. (This wasn't for copy protection, I don't think, but just that the technology wasn't good enough.) So a copy of a CD won't be exact unless you take special pains (and maybe not even then). Still, this program's claim to be the "*only* software" that can do it is as dubious as such claims usually are. Some CD-ROM drives are supposed to be better at extracting audio than others; Plextor, among others, has a good reputation. Take what I say with a grain of salt, by the way; I've never done this, only read about it. See the CD-ROM FAQ: ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/cdrom/cd-recordable/ Section [3-2], "How do I extract tracks from, or copy all of, an audio CD?", has some more URLs. (As an aside, CD-ROM does have to be perfect, of course, so it has another level of error correction on top of what audio has. Specifically, each block of a CD has 2352 bytes of usable data space, and there's other low-level error-detection/correction data stored besides that. An audio CD uses all 2352 bytes for sound samples; a CD-ROM uses some for the extra high-level error-correction data (ie. to correct the errors that weren't already caught by the low-level stuff), leaving 2048 bytes for user data.) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of ridicule. he was NOT a loser. thank you, Mr. Schulz. - Robert C. Mayo From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Apr 7 19:15:01 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 19:15:01 -0400 Subject: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely In-Reply-To: <200004071904.PAA14926@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu>; from henderson.120@OSU.EDU on Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 02:02:12PM -0400 Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 02:02:12PM -0400, K Henderson wrote: > And surely there are lots of [...] John Harrison's in the > world? Including M. John Harrison one who wrote for Moorcock's "New Worlds" -- or is that the HW one? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of ridicule. he was NOT a loser. thank you, Mr. Schulz. - Robert C. Mayo From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Apr 7 19:29:44 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 19:29:44 -0400 Subject: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000407121657.0097ceb0@pop.sirius.com>; from ceres@SIRIUS.COM on Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 12:16:57PM -0700 Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 12:16:57PM -0700, Doug Pearson wrote: > >And who's this Mick Turner guy I keep seeing? I do a double-take everytime > >I flip by one of his discs. > > He's an Australian guitar player (great musician!) who plays in the Dirty > Three Then I saw him last Sunday. Heh. > The > hype on the Dirty Three, fortunately, blew over a couple years ago, but if > you're not familiar with them, I would *highly* recommend them to fans of > Simon House. They're sort of a melodic/jazz/psychedelic instrumental trio, > and violinist Warren Ellis is fantastically talented and capable of > creating really dramatic, moving melodies and tunes. Unfortunately, his > between-song banter leaves a bit to be desired, but that's really the only > negative thing I could say about them. I kept going back and forth between "this is kinda boring" and "this is really cool!". Overall rating: pretty good. One of the local alt. papers put the review of their new CD in the New Age section, but said "Somehow, the Dirty Three again manage to miss capturing the thrilling tension and hard-boiled passion of their performances." And his banter's not *that* bad. > son [ie. Danny Thompson Jr.] = thud thud drummer The one who played with HW? Cool! Who'd have guessed there was a link between HW and Steeleye Span? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of ridicule. he was NOT a loser. thank you, Mr. Schulz. - Robert C. Mayo From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Apr 7 19:23:30 2000 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 00:23:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Glastonbury 2000 In-Reply-To: <002801bf9fe1$81ecc8e0$fe8801d4@stuartha> Message-ID: At 17:02 06/04/00 +0100, you wrote: >HW may end being there but who's got ?87 plus booking fee plus travelling >expenses to get there? > >Stuart >NP UFO - Live In Texas > Not me, not this year, not nohow - unless Helen gets a really good job really soon... ObFoundAtAMatesPlace: Q,S&C !!!!!!!!!!!!! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Apr 7 20:09:53 2000 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 01:09:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame In-Reply-To: <20000407153317.A14361@plutonia.com> Message-ID: At 15:33 07/04/00 -0400, you wrote: >understatement. All you'd need now is get Phil Collins to sing >for him, and I'd be in musical hell. > I think he may have already committed that crime against humanity somewhere alomg the line. Like Deke Leonard said re. the late (GREAT) John Cippolina "They always take the good ones, don't they...why couldn't it have been Phil Collins?" As for Traffic being too "flowery", try their second flowering from "John Barleycorn" through to "On The Road", four very fine & funky albums! Mind you, I love their psych-stuff too!! ChrisW NP: Soft Machine - Seven From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Apr 7 11:38:44 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 16:38:44 +0100 Subject: HW: from ansible Message-ID: Hmm. I come from Almondbury - can't place Nowell Place. Or Steve Sneyd come to that. Cheers, Rich. ----- Original Message ----- From: Arin Komins To: Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 4:29 PM Subject: HW: from ansible > I just caught this snippet in the latest issue of David Langford's > Ansible, http://www.ansible.co.uk/, a sf fanzine: > > SMALL PRESS. _Gnawing Medusa's Flesh_ is Steve Sneyd's overview of Robert > (Hawkwind) Calvert's sf poetry, with bio-biblio-discography. #3.49 or $7 > from 4 Nowell Place, Almondbury, Huddersfield, HD5 8PB. > > fyi. > > Arin > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu > Web Systems Administrator > University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 > 1155 E. 60th St. #302B Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! 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THANK-YOU and HAPPY BIDDING !! - KEV ---------------- This message was requested by stephan spiegel. You can reach this person at spiegel at intplsrv.net. If you have questions or feedback for Amazon.com Auctions and zShops, please e-mail us at auction-support at amazon.com. We hope you've enjoyed getting word of this listing. Amazon.com Earth's Biggest Selection Find, Discover, and Buy Virtually Anything http://www.amazon.com From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sat Apr 8 03:01:37 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 09:01:37 +0200 Subject: HW:Roadhawks Message-ID: Hello all, Have a spare copy of "Roadhawks" LIBERTY/FAME no.1C 038 1575661 It's a German one and is SINGLE sleeve. I know the UK one is gatefold sleeve Did you know there exist 2 versions of the fame one? The name Roadhawks on the bottom of the front exist in yellow and in red ! Seems like an never ending story. greetings filip hawkwind P.S.:as ever I rather swap than sell,ok? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Sat Apr 8 03:27:00 2000 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 01:27:00 -0600 Subject: OFF CD burner software Message-ID: I've not had any real problems with my copy of this,although, I HAVE to run dao or I get the 2-sec. break.No other choice on this one:( The only annoyance I find is an occasional pop midway thru a track. Gotta get around that one soon!!! I'm thinking about looking for something else, just to check them out , for now. Pam Kevin Sommers wrote: > I know of some who have had luck with Easy-CD Creator, which comes bundled > with some burners, but as far as I know it still forces that two-second > pregap between each song. I use CDRWIN (http://www.goldenhawk.com), which I > like a lot. > -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace Hello Filip, It`s also exist an other German Roadhawks with the no.1C 038-82 624 Liberty gatefold sleeve release date 1980 also existing another German Roadhawks at Liberty/ Fame with a other no. Rainer Filip Vanhuyse schrieb: > Hello all, > > Have a spare copy of "Roadhawks" > LIBERTY/FAME no.1C 038 1575661 > It's a German one and is SINGLE sleeve. > I know the UK one is gatefold sleeve > Did you know there exist 2 versions of the fame one? > The name Roadhawks on the bottom of the front exist > in yellow and in red ! > Seems like an never ending story. > > greetings > filip hawkwind > > P.S.:as ever I rather swap than sell,ok? > > From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Apr 7 20:33:03 2000 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 01:33:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely In-Reply-To: <20000407192944.C8508@telepres.com> Message-ID: At 19:29 07/04/00 -0400, Eric Siegerman wrote: > >> son [ie. Danny Thompson Jr.] = thud thud drummer > >The one who played with HW? Cool! Who'd have guessed there was >a link between HW and Steeleye Span? > Danny Thompson Snr. gets you to Richard Thompson gets you to almost anywhere in the universe e.g. to FFKT gets you John "Drumbo" French gets you to Beefheart & then Zappa or gets you Fred Frith Giving you Henry Cow or John Zorn!!! ChrisW (in labyrinthine frame of mind) From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Apr 8 10:29:52 2000 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 10:29:52 EDT Subject: Look what's available at Amazon.com Auctions Message-ID: This has been on amazon for weeks... bob In a message dated 4/7/00 10:01:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET writes: > stephan spiegel wanted to share this Amazon.com listing with you. Enjoy! > > stephan spiegel writes: > I think someone asked if Rush ever played with Hawkwind a while back... > > Item Details: Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sat Apr 8 11:05:31 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 11:05:31 -0400 Subject: SLOTERDIJK returns to Berlin: 8 Juni, 2000/ Message-ID: SLOTERDIJK will be returning to Berlin on June 8th for a return performance at "Dunckerclub" , Dunckerstrasse 64. Also appearing: DEMENTI (D) Doors open at 10PM Show begins about 11PM For those in Western Germany, who are unable to travel to Berlin, or to Hamburg for The North German Hawkfanfest, June 16th-18th, SLOTERDIJK will be playing at least one date in Nederland, tentatively scheduled for Friday Juy 2nd, in Den Hague (The Haag).. For any additional information or questions, write to SLOTERDIJK at webtv.net or visit the tourdates section of The "Control Center" at: http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl Peace, Mike (Sloterdijk) http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS From micci at SCI.FI Sat Apr 8 11:33:15 2000 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 18:33:15 +0300 Subject: off:Dark Sun Message-ID: Greetings from the Dark Sun Galaxy, Bad news about our live CD, I'm afraid. I just got a reply from Ville Maila, who told me that Metamorphos won't be operating any more. This means that he's not going to release the Ice Ritual live album feat. Nik Turner, at least not for a while. He has offered to sell the master to us for 3500,- Finnish marks, let's see what happens. Interested, anyone? All this means, that Ice Ritual will now only be released on vinyl (limited edition of 300 copies) by Danish Burnt Hippie Recordings. The vinyl edition should be ready in two weeks. The latest, and possibly the last release from Metamorphos is excellent mini CD from Helsinki based stoner rockers Spiha called Tooth Helmet. Get it, if you can find it! DS home page at: http://hop.to/darksun Over and out, DarkSanttu Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Apr 8 11:35:46 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 16:35:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely Message-ID: Yeah, There is a Tim Blake site, something to do with the marines and missiles. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Doug Pearson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 07 April 2000 02:46 Subject: Re: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely >On Thu, 6 Apr 2000 23:57:24 +0100, Andy Gilham >wrote: >>There I was web-surfing, and came across the Simon House homepage. >> >>http://www.rust.net/~shouse/homepage.htm > >Ha! Not nearly as bad as the other (American) Dave Brock (well, actually >David)! And then there was the original drummer for the Barracudas (later >in Lords of the New Church IIRC), Nick Turner ... > >Any more Hawkwind doppelgangers (OK, namesakes) out there? > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Apr 8 11:37:16 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 16:37:16 +0100 Subject: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely Message-ID: There is a wildlife cameraman for the BBC by the name of Simon King. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Bert.Hulshoff at NN.DHV.NL To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 07 April 2000 07:43 Subject: Re: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely >> Any more Hawkwind doppelgangers (OK, namesakes) out there? >> >> >> >Robert Calvert >sax with Mother Gong > >greetings >bert > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Apr 8 11:47:54 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 16:47:54 +0100 Subject: HW - Schulze? Good? Message-ID: And what about Copey the Arch-Drude? A candidate for the HW vocal spot if it were to become vacant...perhaps too mental for Hawkwind I fear. Dave np Porcupine Tree - Voyage 34 CD -----Original Message----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 07 April 2000 23:06 Subject: Re: HW - Schulze? Good? A while back someone posted: Anyone make the Julian Cope event? Were Ashra Tempel any good? Well, early reports say 'under reahearsed, spacey noodling, only played for just over an hour, disappointing especially at ?20 a ticket, and Coil were better' Surprise, surprise. Andy G'b From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sat Apr 8 12:05:32 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 17:05:32 +0100 Subject: HW: On-line radio shows Message-ID: this may have ben posted before but check out; http://www.supanovaradio.co.uk/ Stuart Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk From johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Apr 8 14:53:59 2000 From: johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM (Johnny Firich) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 18:53:59 GMT Subject: BOC: Looking for Cultheads in Wisconsin Message-ID: This may seem an... odd place to post this, but: I've just been admitted to Lawrence University in Appleton, Wisconsin (yeeah!). Are there any Cultheads in the area? I'm flying over (from my native Croatia) toward the end of August. Suggestions as to which show to go to would be very welcome. I don't think I can afford to go to the Kesheena (or whatever) one (?Kesheena is in Wisconsin), cause then I'd have to stay at some hotel or something all through August. And another thing. Check out my website: boc.jumptunes.com It's 'under construction forever'. Speak to me in many voices, Johnny xxxxxx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Sat Apr 8 15:25:57 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 05:25:57 +1000 Subject: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely Message-ID: >Danny Thompson Snr. gets you to Richard Thompson gets you to almost >anywhere in the universe > >e.g. to FFKT gets you John "Drumbo" French gets you to Beefheart & then Zappa > or gets you Fred Frith Giving you Henry Cow or John Zorn!!! - which gets you to me, as I played on Bob Drake's 'Animal Medallion Carpet', last year, which has Chris Cutler on it. Isn't nature wonderful? :) -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Sat Apr 8 20:35:39 2000 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 20:35:39 BST Subject: HW BBC Session Message-ID: Hello everyone, Andy G'b wrote : >What I gathered was that it was all recent '90's stuff like Mark >Radckliffe session that they did and similar -< Does anyone know if parts of the Mark Radcliffe Radio 1 session were used for the 'Area S4' EP? I have a tape of the session and the the music on 'Death Trap' sounds near enough identical although the vocals are different. If the session does ever surface on CD, I hope they include the Mark Radcliffe and Lard 'tribute' in which they performed 'Right to Decide' and 'Silver Machine' on a Bontempi organ! All the best Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Apr 8 15:52:01 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 20:52:01 +0100 Subject: HW: Guest spots and Sessions Message-ID: Forgive me if this has been covered in the past. Which HW members, excluding those with their own groups e.g. Lemmy, Huw, Nik, have been the most active in sessions over the years? The obvious ones are Simon House (Bowie, Japan), Simon King (Eno)...anyone got a full listing? I remember Dave Brock being credited for work with Iggy but when I asked him about this years ago he didn't know anything about it; apart from Capt. Lockheed and New World's Fair I don't think he has played on anyone elses stuff. Dave n/p Fluke: Six Wheels On My Wagon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sat Apr 8 16:41:29 2000 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2000 15:41:29 -0500 Subject: OFF CD burner software Message-ID: Found a download link for Nero here: http://www.nero.com/ and http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10078-100-1515735.html?tag=st.dl.10001_103_1.lst.td And, Exact Audio Copy here: http://www.ExactAudioCopy.de/ Have been stuck with Adaptec myself and am going to try these out! Thanks for the tips! Karen Alasdair Macdonald wrote: > > EAC is free and is highly recommended for extraction of audio from > source audio CDs - it claims to be the *only* software capable of > *exact* copies. CDR-Win is recommended for burning. Cracked > copies of CDR-Win are reported to make bad copies. Nero, Fuerio > and others are also recommended (I prefer Nero). Adaptec's > offerings have the lowest reputation of all burning software. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Apr 9 00:42:58 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 00:42:58 -0400 Subject: BOC: weird BOC skit on SNL Message-ID: Did anyone catch the BOC skit on SNL tonight (4/7/2000)?? I wasn't paying attention to the beginning, so I kind of missed the premise of it all. Anyway, it had the band in the studio, recording "(Don't Fear) The Reaper," with a big-name producer and "plenty of cowbell" by someone called Gene (who looked like Eric) so it would be a guaranteed gold record. Like I said, I didn't really get what it was all about, but I have to say the cast did uncannily funny likenesses of the BOC members themselves (especially with the 70s garb). :-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From jperkins at MAILCITY.COM Sun Apr 9 00:56:36 2000 From: jperkins at MAILCITY.COM (Jeff P) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 00:56:36 -0400 Subject: HW: Guest spots and Sessions Message-ID: Well Paul Rudolph would seem to be an obvious candidate, apart from Pink Fairies he also worked with Eno (and Calvert) and Melodic Energy Commission . Dave Anderson got about a bit (Amon Duul 2, especially the British version and a very brief stint in a post Gong line up). I once had an LP of someone I can't remember which had Martin Griffin on it and Steve Swindells apart from solo work was in Pilot. Adrian Shaw is solo these days but has guested on Bevis Frond. Calvert appeared on a Nektar album (Down To Earth) as a German ringmaster doing the intro's. Tim Blake was on a couple of Clearlight Orchestra albums. Nik shows up on live shows left right and centre. From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Sun Apr 9 01:35:03 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 15:35:03 +1000 Subject: HW: Guest spots and Sessions Message-ID: At 12:56 AM 4/9/00 -0400, Jeff P wrote: >Well Paul Rudolph would seem to be an obvious candidate, apart from Pink >Fairies he also worked with Eno (and Calvert) and Melodic Energy Commission >. Dave Anderson got about a bit (Amon Duul 2, especially the British version >and a very brief stint in a post Gong line up). I once had an LP of someone >I can't remember which had Martin Griffin on it and Steve Swindells apart >from solo work was in Pilot. Swindells was also in String-driven Thing, and at least one other band pre-Hawkwind, who I can't recall - but that isn't really session work, as he was a fully-fledged band member. -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From des at SUPERLINK.NET Sun Apr 9 01:52:35 2000 From: des at SUPERLINK.NET (E F) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 01:52:35 -0400 Subject: BOC: weird BOC skit on SNL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Did anyone happen to tape this? I would love a copy! --Eric On 09-Apr-00, Paul Mather says to me: > Did anyone catch the BOC skit on SNL tonight (4/7/2000)?? I wasn't > paying attention to the beginning, so I kind of missed the premise of it > all. Anyway, it had the band in the studio, recording "(Don't Fear) The > Reaper," with a big-name producer and "plenty of cowbell" by someone > called Gene (who looked like Eric) so it would be a guaranteed gold > record. > > Like I said, I didn't really get what it was all about, but I have to > say the cast did uncannily funny likenesses of the BOC members > themselves (especially with the 70s garb). :-) > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > --- Frank Vincent Zappa > -- I think that God in creating man somewhat overestimated his ability. -- Oscar Wilde From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Apr 9 02:18:24 2000 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 14:18:24 +0800 Subject: OFF CD burner software In-Reply-To: <38EE4256.958DC6D7@uswest.net> Message-ID: I did something daring & installed Windows2000, which the latest version of Easy CD Creator didn't like, but worked wonders using Nero. > > I switched to Nero > > > Right, NERO is probably the best for features and ease of use, adaptec > is generally considered junk. Check out the cdr newsgroups if you need > detailed user comments. > From shmucking at YAHOO.COM Sun Apr 9 03:27:19 2000 From: shmucking at YAHOO.COM (Ian Rosen) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 00:27:19 -0700 Subject: Question about Hawkwind albums Message-ID: I'm an avid collector of Hawkwind albums. My question is, "What albums of new material did they release since Electric Teepee?" I've tried looking it up on www.cdnow and there's a lot of stuff I haven't heard of, and I was wondering which albums are all-new material. Thanks for your help, Ian __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Sun Apr 9 05:40:58 2000 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 10:40:58 +0100 Subject: OFF CD burner software Message-ID: For anyone setting up EAC for the first time, the following links will likely be of interest: http://ephobia.interspeed.net/dae/ http://pages.cthome.net/homepage/eac/ Alasdair On 8 Apr 00, at 15:41, Karen Kusic wrote: > Found a download link for Nero here: > > http://www.nero.com/ > and > http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10078-100-1515735.html?tag=st.d > l. 10001_103_1.lst.td > > And, Exact Audio Copy here: > > http://www.ExactAudioCopy.de/ > > Have been stuck with Adaptec myself and am going to try these out! > Thanks for the tips! -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Sun Apr 9 09:09:23 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 23:09:23 +1000 Subject: HW: Alchemy Message-ID: This talk of side-projects reminded me, I used o have a 1969 Third Ear Band album called 'Alchemy', which had absolutely no lineup or composer notes at all. As a matter of fact I don't think it had any notes of any sort. Dos anyone know whether Smin House was in the badn at that early stage? The album had violin on it, but it didn;t sound very much like SH's HW/Deep Fix style. -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sun Apr 9 09:08:21 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 15:08:21 +0200 Subject: Question about Hawkwind albums Message-ID: Hello Ian, My god,there are too much to mention. Best thing you can do is go to Andrew Dawsons website: www.adawson.clara.net There you'll find more you can swallow. best wishes filip hawknut ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Rosen To: Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 9:27 AM Subject: Question about Hawkwind albums > I'm an avid collector of Hawkwind albums. My question > is, "What albums of new material did they release > since Electric Teepee?" > > I've tried looking it up on www.cdnow and there's a > lot of stuff I haven't heard of, and I was wondering > which albums are all-new material. > > Thanks for your help, > Ian > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Sun Apr 9 09:10:42 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 23:10:42 +1000 Subject: HW: Alchemy Message-ID: Geez, I must have been trying for a record of most-typos-per-square-inch in that last post. Aplogies :/ -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sun Apr 9 09:31:24 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 15:31:24 +0200 Subject: HW:Ancienne Belgique concert poster for swap Message-ID: Hello all, As some of you know,I've just relocated and found some items I have double. Have 1 poster left from the Ancienne Belgique,Brussel Hawkwind concert.Date:20/11/1998. Size:90 x 70 cm. Real nice,poster is black with orange Doremi label Ultra rare poster,only 200 or 300 made. Most of all I want another poster for it,otherwise we work something out,ok? greetings filip hawknut -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Yours, Jon P. S. Where did you find the tour dates? I only know of a Nottingham gig... ObCD: Clutch - _Clutch_ -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sun Apr 9 11:41:43 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 17:41:43 +0200 Subject: HW:Quark,Strangeness & Charm Message-ID: Hello all, Just remembered,Dave Brock once told me,there are sleeves of the QS & C where Bob Calvert is looking on the left way instead of the right way on the front sleeve. And yes,the person in the sleeve is Bob Calvert himself. The photo is taken inside Battersy Power Station. You know the power station when you come with the train from Dover to London.I always think when I see it:"We're almost there".It's also the power station on the sleeve from the Pink Floyd album "Animals",as you all know by now,I suppose. Can anyone confirm this? Does anyone has a QS & C with Bob looking the other way? greetings filip hawknut -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Apr 9 11:58:08 2000 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 16:58:08 +0100 Subject: HW BBC Session Message-ID: >Does anyone know if parts of the Mark Radcliffe Radio 1 session were used for the 'Area S4' EP? >I have a tape of the session and the the music on 'Death Trap' sounds near enough identical although the vocals are different. If the session does ever surface on CD, I hope they include the Mark Radcliffe and Lard 'tribute' >in which they performed 'Right to Decide' and 'Silver Machine' on a Bontempi organ! > I Wouldn't have thought so, but it was said on the show that the band were using lots of tapes because of equipment being impounded at customs (on the way back from the Isle of Man TT gigs, I think), so that would explain some of the similarity. The Mark & Lard spoof was great wasn't it! "You can't do this, you can't do that, you shouldn't jump around if you're dyiing for crap!" Nick From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Apr 9 12:02:38 2000 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 17:02:38 +0100 Subject: HW: Guest spots and Sessions Message-ID: Forgive me if this has been covered in the past. Which HW members, excluding those with their own groups e.g. Lemmy, Huw, Nik, have been the most active in sessions over the years? The obvious ones are Simon House (Bowie, Japan), Simon King (Eno)...anyone got a full listing? I remember Dave Brock being credited for work with Iggy but when I asked him about this years ago he didn't know anything about it; apart from Capt. Lockheed and New World's Fair I don't think he has played on anyone elses stuff. Dave did guest on synth on the Dumpy's Rusty Nuts album "Get Out On the Road" on the track Hawkwind. Dumpy's next (live) album featured Alan Davey on loan as bassist and short lived Hawk drummer Mick Kirton. Nick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sun Apr 9 14:53:49 2000 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 13:53:49 -0500 Subject: BOC skit on SNL Message-ID: No comments yet on the BOC skit on "Saturday Night Live" last night? Wish I would have taped it! I'm primarily a HW fan so I'm sure I couldn't thoroughly explain all the subtleties of what went on but still enjoyed it! Hope someone else caught the show! Karen -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Apr 9 16:41:45 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 21:41:45 +0100 Subject: OFF: Dark Orange Sun Goblin Message-ID: I just saw a ticket for the Edinburgh gig posted in the window of Ripping Records so I don't know what other dates they are doing I'm afraid. cheers jill ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Jarrett To: Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2000 3:59 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Dark Orange Sun Goblin > > sound it is too! They are playing in Edinburgh soon and I was > > wondering if should go along. > > Dear Jill, > indubitably! They play a good gig. I suspect I'd have > a soft spot for any band with a Kyuss sticker on one bass drum and one on > the other reading `Drink More Beer' but they are very good live also. Lots > like a cheap healthy Black Sabbath. Carl used to say that they seemed to > be having more fun than almost band he'd seen, which puzzled him > because, if he'd been up there on stage with a guitar and a large amp > _he'd_ be having fun... Yours, > Jon > > P. S. Where did you find the tour dates? I only know of a Nottingham > gig... From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sun Apr 9 17:26:23 2000 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 16:26:23 -0500 Subject: OFF CD burner software Message-ID: Nuts over Nero: Will tackle the EAC setup one of these days but think I'm sold on Nero. http://www.nero.com/ Nice stuff! Easy to install and use. And, it lets one "overburn" a CD! Great when you're trying to record to an 80min blank (yes, they're available) and Adaptec's EasyCD Creator would keep insisting that you didn't have enough room. Wouldn't even let a disc image be created! EasyCD my *ss. ;-) Nero was also pretty intuitive and has a decent online Help section. At first, I kept burning my disc image to another disc image since I forgot to switch to the CD Burner instead of the Image Recorder under the CD-Recorder option. (You need to switch back and forth if you're creating and burning from a disc image.) Burn baby burn! Karen Alasdair Macdonald wrote: > > There's a couple of links for EAC you may find useful (it takes a > little bit of setting up): > > http://ephobia.interspeed.net/dae/ > > http://pages.cthome.net/homepage/eac/ > > Hope this helps > > Alasdair > > On 8 Apr 00, at 15:41, Karen Kusic wrote: > > > Found a download link for Nero here: > > > > http://www.nero.com/ > > and > > http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10078-100-1515735.html?tag=st.dl. > > 10001_103_1.lst.td > > > > And, Exact Audio Copy here: > > > > http://www.ExactAudioCopy.de/ > > > > Have been stuck with Adaptec myself and am going to try these out! > > Thanks for the tips! > > -- > Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 > Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com > > alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Apr 8 00:50:17 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 21:50:17 -0700 Subject: HW instrumental CD Message-ID: Hiya folks, Does anyone have a list of instrumental (no lyrics) hawkwind songs? I want to burn an all-instrumental cd..... ----------------------------------- That's funny - for that's exactly what I told Douglas to release to get the music of Hawkwind across to a non-Hawkwind audience, only, despite him liking the idea, it turned into CD2 of 'Ambient Anarchists' - not quite what I had in mind!! Andy G'b From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Sun Apr 9 20:52:54 2000 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 19:52:54 -0500 Subject: BOC skit on SNL Message-ID: Karen Kusic wrote: > No comments yet on the BOC skit on "Saturday Night Live" last night? > Wish I would have taped it! I'm primarily a HW fan so I'm sure I > couldn't thoroughly explain all the subtleties of what went on but still > enjoyed it! Hope someone else caught the show! > > Karen > > -- > "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production > deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." > - Frank Zappa I saw it. I might have thought it was funny if I understood the Bruce Dickinson part at all. What was that about? From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Apr 9 19:47:54 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 19:47:54 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dark Sun Message-ID: Miikka said sadly... >Greetings from the Dark Sun Galaxy, > >Bad news about our live CD, I'm afraid. I just got a reply from Ville Maila, >who told me that Metamorphos won't be operating any more. This means that >he's not going to release the Ice Ritual live album feat. Nik Turner, at >least not for a while. Ack! That sucks! >He has offered to sell the master to us for 3500,- Finnish marks, let's see >what happens. Interested, anyone? > >All this means, that Ice Ritual will now only be released on vinyl (limited >edition of 300 copies) by Danish Burnt Hippie Recordings. The vinyl edition >should be ready in two weeks. You getting any of these Andy? Looks like the only source, right now. >The latest, and possibly the last release from Metamorphos Ummmm...does that mean Circle's Andexelt is also shelved?? I seriously hope not. A bad day for Finnish spacerock. Will the remaining stock be liquidated and declared OOP like Griffin now? Grakkl (FAA) From jperkins at MAILCITY.COM Sun Apr 9 22:41:15 2000 From: jperkins at MAILCITY.COM (Jeff P) Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 22:41:15 -0400 Subject: HW: Alchemy Message-ID: Sounds too early to me. I had a few of their LP's with credits and I think that was later From Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM Sun Apr 9 23:14:35 2000 From: Martyn.Lawrence at TEAM.TELSTRA.COM (Lawrence, Martyn [IBM GSA]) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:14:35 +1000 Subject: Hw:Studio 22 Update Message-ID: Hi I have just been called by Vanessa from studio22 - she has just informed me it will be shown on - 20/7/00 yep bloody july. I asked why the delay and she didn't know,I also asked her about the tapes for sale and they are NOT for Sale . Its a long time to wait ,but it will be worth it, but how much will they cut out ? A question for Dave - Have you got a copy of what was taped ? regards Marty From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Apr 10 00:00:33 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 04:00:33 +0000 Subject: OFF: CD burner software Message-ID: Karen Kusic wrote: > Nuts over Nero: > > Will tackle the EAC setup one of these days but think I'm sold on Nero. > http://www.nero.com/ > Nice stuff! Easy to install and use. And, it lets one "overburn" a CD! > Great when you're trying to record to an 80min blank (yes, they're > available) and Adaptec's EasyCD Creator would keep insisting that you > didn't have enough room. Wouldn't even let a disc image be created! > EasyCD my *ss. ;-) Just a word of warning about Nero: I quite liked it when I downloaded and tried it, but the bloom was taken off the rose a little when, abruptly, the program expired!! If you don't already, expect your version of Nero to expire pretty soon unless you register it. (Unless they've changed their policy, that is.) BTW, I'm still a firm fan of CDRWin (from Goldenhawk). It's rock solid! Cheers, Paul. -- e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Apr 10 00:39:59 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:39:59 +1000 Subject: HW: Alchemy Message-ID: At 10:41 PM 4/9/00 -0400, Jeff P wrote: >Sounds too early to me. I had a few of their LP's with credits and I think >that was later You mean it was too early for Simon House, or you think it was released later than that? Mine was a re-issue; all I remember it saying was 'originally recorded 1969' or 'originally released 1969' BTW a certain music guide whose URL escapes me for the moment, lists Hawkwind's Simon King as guitarist/percussionist on some 1998 jazz album. I'm assuming this is their mistake? (They also list Hawkwind's John Harrison as playing on various Roy Buchanan albums, and with the Boston Pops Orchestra.) -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Mon Apr 10 01:17:15 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 07:17:15 +0200 Subject: OFF:3,5 inch diskette Message-ID: Hi, Can anyone tell me how to attach info from a 3,5 inch diskette to a e-mail.I'm new to this.Have Windows 98 greetings filip hawknut -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Apr 10 04:30:28 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 04:30:28 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" 4/08/00 (truncated version) Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS FOR WINAMP : 1) Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to hear KUCR. http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your computer. After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program (Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the following http://www.kucr.org:8000 Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up, double click again to reconnect. 4/8/00 (5-7pm) 1.Mushroom--Martina - Queen of Hamburg (Alive and In Full Bloom) 2.Nebula Trip--Causes of Riots (Birth) 3.Ozric Tentacles--Myriapod (Arborescence) 4.Melodic Energy Commisssion--Stranger in Mystery (Stranger in Mystery, Moonphase Compendium) 5.Ebeling Hughes--Night (Transfigured Night) 6.Agitation Free--Soundpool (Last) 7.Tone Float--Tonight We Sleep w/the Eggroll King (Musik von...) 8.Residents--The Coming of the Crow (Hell!) 9. " --Lizard Lady (Hell!) 10.Chrome--New Age (Red Exposure, Chrome Box) 11.Amon Duul 2--Jail-house Frog (Wolf City) 12.Vibrasonic--Sea of Stars (Vibrasonic) 13.ST-37--Discorporate (I Like to Talk...) 14.Hawkwind--The Nazca/Hippy (In Your Area) 15.The Voco Kesh--Track #2 (Smile! and Point at the Mountain?) 16.Quarkspace--Recaesarian (Spacefolds 5) 17.Korai Orom--Track #6 (1997) 18.Ashtabula--Andicraft Export, Munroe Road (Gopi Krishna) thanks, Chuck From ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO Mon Apr 10 05:13:58 2000 From: ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO (Ketil Svendsen) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:13:58 +0200 Subject: OFF CD burner software MACINTOSH Message-ID: for the mac users out there: to avoid the 2 sec gap, i use adaptec jam - it supports dao, 8x speed etc... oh, and you can do all those fun little things like crossfades, normalizing, hidden tracks before and after the actual tracks, crowd noise between tracks (during "pauses") without affecting the original files. ketil svendsen, norway > Subject: Re: OFF CD burner software From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Mon Apr 10 06:00:51 2000 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:00:51 +0100 Subject: HW BBC Message-ID: Hi folks, Andy G, and Andy G'b, Just a minor correction! The one hour 88 BBC "In Concert" is from Hammersmith Odeon. I once did a "mix" using the BBC tape, and a "live" recording, re-generating the full concert as such, complete with the chickens that lay brown joints! I suspect that the confusion with Leicester is the fact that there is a damned fine Leicester tape out there, but not the show that the BBC broadcast. I was in contact with BBC archives, and The 1988 BBC master tape has Brainstorm in full, I suspect that the programme was running late so it was faded out when originally broadcast. The rest of the concert doesn't exist at the BBC archives, but it may possibly exist with the producer of the show (Jeff Griffin), alas he's long retired from the BBC now! They also have the original 1985 "In-session" masters too, as well as the 1995 Mark Ratcliffe Show, the 1972 Paris Theatre show, and the Reading 1986 In concert. Of course the '72 and '86 have already been released. The 1985 "In Session" tracks are: 1: Assault of the Hawk 2: They've Got Your Number 3: Magnu, Dream Worker of Time The 88 and 85 would fit nicely onto one CD! When I last talked to my contact there, there was NOTHING else in the sound archives - none of the John Peel or Top Gear shows. Best wishes, Guy Thomas -----Original Message----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI [mailto:andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM] Sent: 08 April 2000 02:09 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW Andy, in the course of your investigations into the 'BBC Sessions' cd, did you find out when it was recordrd? All best Mick. ---------------------- What I gathered was that it was all recent '90's stuff like Mark Radckliffe session that they did and similar - the BBC don't have the original Hawkwind Top Gear session tape from whenever it was ('70? '71? - I have a tape of it somewhere) so it's highly unlikely that this one in particular is ever going to see the light of day as a CD. OH, and to the guy who joked that I'd scuppered the deal by calling Doug Smith - jeez, I wish I had THAT much power!!! Bo, the deal wasn't signed and the CD could not have come out without a signed deal by the two parties - I merely hastened the inevitable, I'm afraid. Of course, getting back to BBC stuff, why on earth someone hasn't released: 1) A stereo copy of the BBC Radio One In Concert CD or 2)The Radio One In Concert hour long broadcast live at Leicester from '88 onto CD yet is a mystery - wonder if they've lost those too? But then, we've all got tapes that are better, any way, haven't we!!! Andy G'b Andy G'b From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Apr 10 06:12:31 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:12:31 +1000 Subject: HW Andy G'b - Dave Brock & his Baton 1982-3 Message-ID: At 09:34 PM 4/3/00 +0100, Melvyn Vincent wrote: >Just thought you'd like to know that I clearly remember the 'Dave Brock and >his baton',bit! (nuff said guvnor). >In 1982/3 I accidentally stumbled on a column in the London Evening >Standard about a rock musician appearing in court after being arrested in >possesion of dangerous weapon. Apparently Mr David Brock. aged 39 ,was >stopped by police in a London street whilst in possesion of a 4ft baton, >and when questioned he claimed that he possesed it purely for self defence! >He subsequently appeared at Marylebone Magistrates Court and was fined. This perhaps wasn't the best timing in the world, not long after releasing a single with the lyrics "Stalk the city streets / To kill all you meet" :/ -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Apr 10 06:29:30 2000 From: pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM (Juba N) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:29:30 GMT Subject: HW: Alchemy Message-ID: Hi! If I?m not mistaken,Simon House only played on the MacBeth album. Cheers, Juba >At 10:41 PM 4/9/00 -0400, Jeff P wrote: > >Sounds too early to me. I had a few of their LP's with credits and I >think > >that was later > >You mean it was too early for Simon House, or you think it was released >later than that? Mine was a re-issue; all I remember it saying was >'originally recorded 1969' or 'originally released 1969' > >BTW a certain music guide whose URL escapes me for the moment, lists >Hawkwind's Simon King as guitarist/percussionist on some 1998 jazz album. >I'm assuming this is their mistake? (They also list Hawkwind's John >Harrison >as playing on various Roy Buchanan albums, and with the Boston Pops >Orchestra.) >-- >Tim Gadd >Hobart, Tasmania ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From plamotte at SKYNET.BE Sun Apr 9 19:47:48 2000 From: plamotte at SKYNET.BE (Pierre Lamotte) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 00:47:48 +0100 Subject: OFF : Daevid Allen (Gong) In-Reply-To: <12dw4b-1WQvKqC@fwd00.sul.t-online.de> Message-ID: Hi everyone, this one is just to tell you that Daevid Allen is gonna gig on June Friday 23rd 2000 in La Zone in Liege - Belgium - Europe. He's gonna play his new project called The University of Errors, which is a nice crazy project. try it don't be afraid, i know one cd is out. As La Zone is a small underground venue, it's better to book your tickets very early... cheers, Pierre ps:hi mike (slot) La Zone 27, rue M?an 4020 Li?ge Luik L?ttich Belgium http://users.skynet.be/lazone tel. : ++ 32 43 41 07 27 From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Apr 10 09:40:25 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:40:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Collection for sale Message-ID: All sorts of interesting HW items up for sale at this URL: http://www.thecollections.co.uk/ No prices given. I can't vouch for them, so caveat emptor, but they seem for real. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Apr 10 10:13:55 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:13:55 +0100 Subject: HW: instrumental hawkwind songs? In-Reply-To: Arin Komins's message of Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:58:16 -0500 Message-ID: Arin Komins writes: > Hiya folks, > > Does anyone have a list of instrumental (no lyrics) hawkwind songs? > I want to burn an all-instrumental cd..... I think this is reasonably up to date.... 3 or 4 erections in the Course of a Night 5/4 A Day Alchemy Altair Am I Fooling Arioch Assassination [Some People never Die, The Dream, The Dream II] The Aubergine That Ate Rangoon Automation Avante Bay of Bengal Berlin Axis The Blackening Rabbit Black Sun Blue Shift Bombed Out British Tribal Music Cajun Jinx Cake Out [Hash Cake '77] Chaos Army Chronoglide Skyway The Church City Of Lagoons Dawn/Sunrise The Day A Wall Came Down Diana Park Don't Understand Douglas In The Jungle Dream Dancers The Dream of Isis Electric Teepee Electronic #1 [Space] Elements Elfin EMG Empty Dreams Etchanatae Experiment with Destiny Fight Sequence The Forge Of Vulcan Flight to Maputo Frenzzy Frisco Jam Garden Pests Goat Willow Going to Hawaii Hall Of The Mountain Grill Heart Attack Honky Dorky Hyperdrive Reprise I Am The Eye That Looks Within Identimate In Search of Shangrila Interstellar Overdrive The Island It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous The Iron Dream [The Dream Goes On] Journey Kauai The Last Messiah Let Barking Dogs Lie Life Form Light Specific Data Live and Let Live Lost Chronicles Love in Space Luxotica Machine Dream Mists of Meridin Moonbean Mountain in the Sky Nocturne One Change Opa-Loka Paranoia [Improvise..Compromise..Reprise.] The Phenomenon of Luminosity [Satellite] Photo Encounter Pipe Dreams Prairie Prelude Psychedelia Lives Psychosis The Pulsing Cavern Realms The Reason Is? Reject Your Human Touch Rites of Netherworld The Scan Seeing It As You Really Are Shade Gate Snake Dance [Eons] Space Chase Space Dust Space is their (Palestine) Space Sex Spiral Galaxy 28948 Spirits Taxi For Max Terra Mystica Tibet is not China (I) Tibet is not China (II) Tides Time of Time and Space Touchdown Turner Point Vega Voice Inside My Head Void City Void's End Wastelands Wave upon Wave Web Weaver We Do It [I Do It] The White Zone Wind Of Change Window Pane Wizards Of Pan Tang World Of Tiers Zones From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Apr 10 10:17:00 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:17:00 +0100 Subject: OFF CD burner software In-Reply-To: Kevin Sommers's message of Fri, 7 Apr 2000 12:41:47 -0700 Message-ID: Kevin Sommers writes: > I know of some who have had luck with Easy-CD Creator, which comes bundled > with some burners, but as far as I know it still forces that two-second > pregap between each song. I use CDRWIN (http://www.goldenhawk.com), which I > like a lot. Also check out www.feurio.com FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Apr 10 10:20:00 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:20:00 +0100 Subject: HW In-Reply-To: ANDREW GARIBALDI's message of Fri, 7 Apr 2000 18:08:32 -0700 Message-ID: ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > Of course, getting back to BBC stuff, why on earth someone hasn't > released: > 1) A stereo copy of the BBC Radio One In Concert CD > or Didn't someone boot this one as "Space Rock From London"? > 2)The Radio One In Concert hour long broadcast live at Leicester from > '88 > onto CD yet is a mystery Yep, that would be nice. FoFP From vincentr at COGNOS.COM Mon Apr 10 10:41:52 2000 From: vincentr at COGNOS.COM (Rob Vincent) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:41:52 -0400 Subject: HW: Case of mistaken identity, surely In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20000408013303.007d8100@clara.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 8 Apr 2000, Chris Warburton wrote: > At 19:29 07/04/00 -0400, Eric Siegerman wrote: > > > >> son [ie. Danny Thompson Jr.] = thud thud drummer > > > >The one who played with HW? Cool! Who'd have guessed there was > >a link between HW and Steeleye Span? > > > Danny Thompson Snr. gets you to Richard Thompson gets you to almost > anywhere in the universe > > e.g. to FFKT gets you John "Drumbo" French gets you to Beefheart & then Zappa > or gets you Fred Frith Giving you Henry Cow or John Zorn!!! > Where does Kevin Bacon fit into all of this? Rob THV Elijah Snow : It's a strange world Jakita Wagner : Let's keep it that way Planetary #1 From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Mon Apr 10 10:39:45 2000 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:39:45 +0100 Subject: HW: BBC archives Message-ID: Hi folks, Andy G, and Andy G'b, Just a minor correction! The one hour 88 BBC "In Concert" is from Hammersmith Odeon. I once did a "mix" using the BBC tape, and a "live" recording, re-generating the full concert as such, complete with the chickens that lay brown joints! I suspect that the confusion with Leicester is the fact that there is a damned fine Leicester tape out there, but not the show that the BBC broadcast. I was in contact with BBC archives, and The 1988 BBC master tape has Brainstorm in full, I suspect that the programme was running late so it was faded out when originally broadcast. The rest of the concert doesn't exist at the BBC archives, but it may possibly exist with the producer of the show (Jeff Griffin), alas he's long retired from the BBC now! They also have the original 1985 "In-session" masters too, as well as the 1995 Mark Ratcliffe Show, the 1972 Paris Theatre show, and the Reading 1986 In concert. Of course the '72 and '86 have already been released. The 1985 "In Session" tracks are: 1: Assault of the Hawk 2: They've Got Your Number 3: Magnu, Dream Worker of Time The 88 and 85 would fit nicely onto one CD! When I last talked to my contact there, there was NOTHING else in the sound archives - none of the John Peel or Top Gear shows. Best wishes, Guy Thomas -----Original Message----- From: ANDREW GARIBALDI [mailto:andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM] Sent: 08 April 2000 02:09 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW Andy, in the course of your investigations into the 'BBC Sessions' cd, did you find out when it was recordrd? All best Mick. ---------------------- What I gathered was that it was all recent '90's stuff like Mark Radckliffe session that they did and similar - the BBC don't have the original Hawkwind Top Gear session tape from whenever it was ('70? '71? - I have a tape of it somewhere) so it's highly unlikely that this one in particular is ever going to see the light of day as a CD. OH, and to the guy who joked that I'd scuppered the deal by calling Doug Smith - jeez, I wish I had THAT much power!!! Bo, the deal wasn't signed and the CD could not have come out without a signed deal by the two parties - I merely hastened the inevitable, I'm afraid. Of course, getting back to BBC stuff, why on earth someone hasn't released: 1) A stereo copy of the BBC Radio One In Concert CD or 2)The Radio One In Concert hour long broadcast live at Leicester from '88 onto CD yet is a mystery - wonder if they've lost those too? But then, we've all got tapes that are better, any way, haven't we!!! Andy G'b Andy G'b From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Apr 10 10:52:38 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:52:38 -0400 Subject: OFF CD burner software MACINTOSH In-Reply-To: <38F19B50.CAC74A1A@fiskaren.nhst.no> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Ketil Svendsen wrote: => for the mac users out there: => to avoid the 2 sec gap, i use adaptec jam - it supports dao, 8x speed => etc... => oh, and you can do all those fun little things like crossfades, => normalizing, hidden tracks before and after the actual tracks, crowd => noise between tracks (during "pauses") without affecting the original => files. I believe Adaptec Toast V4 now---at long last---supports DAO. Folks might like to bear this in mind, given the significantly higher price of Adpatec Jam vs Toast (assuming they don't want all the other fancy schmancy features Jam provides). Other than CDRWin, Toast is my favourite piece of CD-R burning software. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From tgn at GATE.NET Mon Apr 10 12:40:04 2000 From: tgn at GATE.NET (Timothy G. Northrup) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:40:04 -0400 Subject: weird BOC skit on SNL Message-ID: The setup was a VH1 "Behind The Music" episode on BOC, but the writers didn't even make an effort to get any of the names right. They were in the studio to record DFTR with "famous producer Bruce Dickinson" (a phrase repeated about 6 times in the first minute of the sketch), who insists the song needs more cow bell. Not one of their better BTM send ups, IMO. -- Tim From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Apr 10 12:33:00 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:33:00 -0400 Subject: weird BOC: skit on SNL Message-ID: Tim said... >The setup was a VH1 "Behind The Music" episode on BOC, but the writers >didn't even make an effort to get any of the names right. They were in the >studio to record DFTR with "famous producer Bruce Dickinson" (a phrase >repeated about 6 times in the first minute of the sketch), who insists the >song needs more cow bell. > >Not one of their better BTM send ups, IMO. Yeah, I didn't *get* it. I didn't think it was *supposed* to be B?C (until the BTM thing came on at the end, which made me wonder), esp. since Bruce Dickinson didn't make a damn bit of sense. I just thought they were using a particular song as the actors weren't likely rock musicians (unlike Chris Guest, Michael McKeon and Harry Shearer), and they needed to pipe in a real recording. (Actually, I thought the 'splicing' of the real DFtR backing tape to the real live 'music' when they were cut off by 'Bruce' was done quite well...*almost* believable.) I just didn't have any idea of what they were spoofing. IMHO, it would have been better to have done it with Black Sabbath's The Wizard, where there's that one single cowbell 'donk' right in the middle of the song unaccompanied. It coulda been more like Andy Kaufmann's Mighty Mouse that way, i.e., funny. :) Grakkl (FAA) P.S. I noticed the one guy in the SNL-B?C band was called 'Eric' though....although I think he was really playing the part of Buck, if they were supposed to be B?C at all, that is. From sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK Mon Apr 10 13:35:08 2000 From: sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:35:08 +0100 Subject: OFF: CD burner software Message-ID: > > BTW, I'm still a firm fan of CDRWin (from Goldenhawk). It's rock solid! > CDRwin is great but beware, it doesn`t (or my version doesn`t) work with my Ricoh. Si From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Mon Apr 10 13:50:39 2000 From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:50:39 -0400 Subject: weird BOC skit on SNL In-Reply-To: <01BFA2ED.5E83AD60.tgn@Gate.Net> Message-ID: I am probably missing something here. Since when was SNL even remotely funny. Every time I try again with an open mind (at least twice a season) I last perhaps two to three skits and turn it off. It is soooo tired. Mike From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 10 14:14:09 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:14:09 -0700 Subject: HW: Question about Hawkwind albums Message-ID: Damn there's been a lot since then! Did I miss any? On Sun, 9 Apr 2000 00:27:19 -0700, Ian Rosen wrote: >I'm an avid collector of Hawkwind albums. My question >is, "What albums of new material did they release >since Electric Teepee?" Fortunately, the "albums of new material" part turns this from an impossibly difficult question to a not-so-tough one. There's only four (or three-and-a-half) of those ... 1) 'It Is The Business of the Future To Be Dangerous' CD/double-LP (Castle?/Griffin) last album with the Brock/Davey Chadwick trio; very ambient 2) 'Alien4' CD/double-LP (EBS) last album with Alan Davey, first with Ron Tree 3) 'Distant Horizons' CD (EBS) first album with Jerry Richards, Ron now on bass 4) 'In Your Area' CD (Griffin) half live, half new studio material Unfortunately, I'm goin to try to list *all* releases since then (I count 21!) ... Other "significant" releases since 'Electric Teepee' would include - EPs: 1) 'Gimme Shelter' 3-band CDEP (cover version w/Samatha Fox, vocals) 2) 'Spirit of the Age' CDEP/12" solstice remixes (techno versions based on the original recording) 3) 'Quark, Strangeness & Charm' CDEP live version remixes of "Uncle Sam's On Mars" 4) 'Area S4' CDEP/12" (4 songs from 'Alien4') 5) 'Love In Space' CDEP (with a great live "Lord of Light") new live stuff: 1) 'The Business Trip' CD/double-LP (EBS) the "trio" live 2) 'Love In Space' double-CD/LP (EBS) 'Alien4' done live 3) 'Hawkwind 1997' CD (passport holder private release) 'Distant Horizons' done live; available directly from the band "related": 1) Psychedelic Warriors - 'White Zone' CD (EBS/Griffin) ambient music by Brock/Davey/Chadwick 2) '25 Years' 4xCD box (Griffin) includes one "new" track circa IitBotFtbD 3) 'Ambient Anarchists' double-CD comp. Not a "greatest hits", (one "new" track?) 4) 'Epoch Eclipse' 3xCD box (EMI) includes new "Silver Machine" remix 5) 'Ritual of the Solstice' CD/double-LP - more remixes circa '94(?) 6) 'Hawkwind Remix Project' CD - even more remixes circa '99 7) 'Elf & The Hawk' CD/double-LP (Black Widow) reissue of 'Hawkfan #12' comp (w/live stuff c. 84/85, "friends & relations", etc.) and bonus tracks (the Alan Davey 'Elf' double-7", etc.) vintage stuff: 1) 'Dawn of Hawkwind' CD - Brock's pre-Hawkwind blues recordings 2) 'The 1999 Party' double-CD - GREAT show from 1974 3) 'Thrilling Stories' - part of a show from 1976 4) 3 'Collector Series' releases: 'Live 79' complete - good show, OK sound 'Live 82' - good show, good sound 'Glastonbury 90' - great show, not-so-good sound And I think that's it, although I haven't included boots, re-re-re-reissues of the Dave Anderson/Demi Monde crap, the single-CD EMI comp., the EMI remasters (great bonus tracks!), the Castle remasters (no bonus tracks), the rehash of the Flicknife stuff on Cleopatra, Dave's third solo album, re-re-issues of the 'Anthology'/'Acid Daze' material, CD-R tree discs, Nik Turner's various projects, Alan Davey's Bedouin and other solo material, etc. etc. etc. Hope this helps! Someone else please chime in if I missed anything ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 10 14:21:49 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:21:49 -0700 Subject: HW: Alchemy Message-ID: Juba is correct. The Macbeth soundtrack is the only Third Ear Band album on which Simon House plays (credited with both violin and VCS3 synthesizer). On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:29:30 GMT, Juba N wrote: >If I?m not mistaken,Simon House only played on the MacBeth album. > >Juba > >>At 10:41 PM 4/9/00 -0400, Jeff P wrote: >> >Sounds too early to me. I had a few of their LP's with credits and I >>think >> >that was later >> >>You mean it was too early for Simon House, or you think it was released >>later than that? Mine was a re-issue; all I remember it saying was >>'originally recorded 1969' or 'originally released 1969' From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Mon Apr 10 14:38:52 2000 From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:38:52 -0400 Subject: HW: Question about Hawkwind albums In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000410111409.0097d500@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: Nice work Doug. Very concise. Mike -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Doug Pearson Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 1:14 PM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Question about Hawkwind albums Damn there's been a lot since then! Did I miss any? On Sun, 9 Apr 2000 00:27:19 -0700, Ian Rosen wrote: >I'm an avid collector of Hawkwind albums. My question >is, "What albums of new material did they release >since Electric Teepee?" Fortunately, the "albums of new material" part turns this from an impossibly difficult question to a not-so-tough one. There's only four (or three-and-a-half) of those ... 1) 'It Is The Business of the Future To Be Dangerous' CD/double-LP (Castle?/Griffin) last album with the Brock/Davey Chadwick trio; very ambient 2) 'Alien4' CD/double-LP (EBS) last album with Alan Davey, first with Ron Tree 3) 'Distant Horizons' CD (EBS) first album with Jerry Richards, Ron now on bass 4) 'In Your Area' CD (Griffin) half live, half new studio material Unfortunately, I'm goin to try to list *all* releases since then (I count 21!) ... Other "significant" releases since 'Electric Teepee' would include - EPs: 1) 'Gimme Shelter' 3-band CDEP (cover version w/Samatha Fox, vocals) 2) 'Spirit of the Age' CDEP/12" solstice remixes (techno versions based on the original recording) 3) 'Quark, Strangeness & Charm' CDEP live version remixes of "Uncle Sam's On Mars" 4) 'Area S4' CDEP/12" (4 songs from 'Alien4') 5) 'Love In Space' CDEP (with a great live "Lord of Light") new live stuff: 1) 'The Business Trip' CD/double-LP (EBS) the "trio" live 2) 'Love In Space' double-CD/LP (EBS) 'Alien4' done live 3) 'Hawkwind 1997' CD (passport holder private release) 'Distant Horizons' done live; available directly from the band "related": 1) Psychedelic Warriors - 'White Zone' CD (EBS/Griffin) ambient music by Brock/Davey/Chadwick 2) '25 Years' 4xCD box (Griffin) includes one "new" track circa IitBotFtbD 3) 'Ambient Anarchists' double-CD comp. Not a "greatest hits", (one "new" track?) 4) 'Epoch Eclipse' 3xCD box (EMI) includes new "Silver Machine" remix 5) 'Ritual of the Solstice' CD/double-LP - more remixes circa '94(?) 6) 'Hawkwind Remix Project' CD - even more remixes circa '99 7) 'Elf & The Hawk' CD/double-LP (Black Widow) reissue of 'Hawkfan #12' comp (w/live stuff c. 84/85, "friends & relations", etc.) and bonus tracks (the Alan Davey 'Elf' double-7", etc.) vintage stuff: 1) 'Dawn of Hawkwind' CD - Brock's pre-Hawkwind blues recordings 2) 'The 1999 Party' double-CD - GREAT show from 1974 3) 'Thrilling Stories' - part of a show from 1976 4) 3 'Collector Series' releases: 'Live 79' complete - good show, OK sound 'Live 82' - good show, good sound 'Glastonbury 90' - great show, not-so-good sound And I think that's it, although I haven't included boots, re-re-re-reissues of the Dave Anderson/Demi Monde crap, the single-CD EMI comp., the EMI remasters (great bonus tracks!), the Castle remasters (no bonus tracks), the rehash of the Flicknife stuff on Cleopatra, Dave's third solo album, re-re-issues of the 'Anthology'/'Acid Daze' material, CD-R tree discs, Nik Turner's various projects, Alan Davey's Bedouin and other solo material, etc. etc. etc. Hope this helps! Someone else please chime in if I missed anything ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 10 15:05:36 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:05:36 -0700 Subject: HW: Question about Hawkwind albums Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:38:52 -0400, "Michael S. Habiby" wrote: >Nice work Doug. Very concise. > >Mike Thanks, Mike! And I already remembered one item that I left out of the EP section (thanks to Mike Holmes for reminding me with his list of instrumentals): I had written: >EPs: >1) 'Gimme Shelter' 3-band CDEP (cover version w/Samatha Fox, vocals) >2) 'Spirit of the Age' CDEP/12" solstice remixes (techno versions based on >the original recording) >3) 'Quark, Strangeness & Charm' CDEP live version remixes of "Uncle Sam's >On Mars" >4) 'Area S4' CDEP/12" (4 songs from 'Alien4') >5) 'Love In Space' CDEP (with a great live "Lord of Light") and I'll add ... 6) "Interstellar Overdrive" CD single (Griffin) available only with their 'Collectors Guide To Pink Floyd' book So that makes 4 + 22 now! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From shmucking at YAHOO.COM Mon Apr 10 16:26:29 2000 From: shmucking at YAHOO.COM (Ian Rosen) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 13:26:29 -0700 Subject: HW: Question about Hawkwind albums Message-ID: Thanks for the info, Doug. You saved me a lot of time and wading through lists. There should be a Hawkwind historian. There's so much stuff out there, they'd make the Grateful Dead blush. Ian --- Doug Pearson wrote: > On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:38:52 -0400, "Michael S. > Habiby" > wrote: > >Nice work Doug. Very concise. > > > >Mike > > Thanks, Mike! And I already remembered one item > that I left out of the EP > section (thanks to Mike Holmes for reminding me with > his list of > instrumentals): > I had written: > >EPs: > >1) 'Gimme Shelter' 3-band CDEP (cover version > w/Samatha Fox, vocals) > >2) 'Spirit of the Age' CDEP/12" solstice remixes > (techno versions based on > >the original recording) > >3) 'Quark, Strangeness & Charm' CDEP live version > remixes of "Uncle Sam's > >On Mars" > >4) 'Area S4' CDEP/12" (4 songs from 'Alien4') > >5) 'Love In Space' CDEP (with a great live "Lord of > Light") > > and I'll add ... > > 6) "Interstellar Overdrive" CD single (Griffin) > available only with their > 'Collectors Guide To Pink Floyd' book > > So that makes 4 + 22 now! > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 11 00:00:13 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:00:13 -0700 Subject: HW- Other activities Message-ID: Just to keep you all informed: Friday 12th May Spacehead play The Railway Hotel, Buxton, Derbyshire, supported by Harvey Bainbridge, with full lightshow. Tickets on the door on the night are just ?3 each and doors open 8pm. If you're not in the area, tell a friend who is..... Ta, Andy G'b From jperkins at MAILCITY.COM Mon Apr 10 20:33:31 2000 From: jperkins at MAILCITY.COM (Jeff P) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:33:31 -0400 Subject: OFF:3,5 inch diskette Message-ID: 1 make sure your floppy is in your floppy drive 2 write your email 3 attach as normal except when choosing the location that your file is in you need to get out of your hard drive (probably C:) and into your floppy (A:). Just keep moving up a level until your A: drive appears then select it and then select the file you wish to attach Jeff From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Apr 10 22:05:16 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:05:16 +1000 Subject: HW Message-ID: At 03:20 PM 4/10/00 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > >> Of course, getting back to BBC stuff, why on earth someone hasn't >> released: >> 1) A stereo copy of the BBC Radio One In Concert CD >> or > >Didn't someone boot this one as "Space Rock From London"? Someone sent me a CDR with that title, and it's the same as the old tape I used to have with Andy Dunkley introducing it - with that girl who does the most un-computerlike-countdown sequence this side of Red Dwarf :) -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Tue Apr 11 03:42:26 2000 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:42:26 +0200 Subject: HW In-Reply-To: <20000411020515.SYWW10269.mta02.mail.mel.aone.net.au@Defaul t> Message-ID: > >ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > > > >> Of course, getting back to BBC stuff, why on earth someone hasn't > >> released: > >> 1) A stereo copy of the BBC Radio One In Concert CD > >> or > > > >Didn't someone boot this one as "Space Rock From London"? > > >Someone sent me a CDR with that title, and it's the same as the old tape I >used to have with Andy Dunkley introducing it - with that girl who does the >most un-computerlike-countdown sequence this side of Red Dwarf :) >-- >Tim Gadd >Hobart, Tasmania that girl was named: STACIA andre From ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO Tue Apr 11 05:13:31 2000 From: ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO (Ketil Svendsen) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:13:31 +0200 Subject: OFF Re: CD burner software MACINTOSH Message-ID: and then some macintosh blues: Toast v4 (that rightfully supports dao) doesn't support MacOS9 (but will, as they state on their home page, do so in a future incarnation). *sob* ...that leaves me out of toast 4's "direct from vinyl with the pops and clicks removed"-feature etc... ketil svendsen, norway > I believe Adaptec Toast V4 now---at long last---supports DAO. Folks > might like to bear this in mind, given the significantly higher price of > Adpatec Jam vs Toast (assuming they don't want all the other fancy > schmancy features Jam provides). From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 11 05:27:34 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:27:34 +0100 Subject: HW In-Reply-To: Tim Gadd's message of Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:05:16 +1000 Message-ID: Tim Gadd writes: > At 03:20 PM 4/10/00 +0100, M Holmes wrote: > >ANDREW GARIBALDI writes: > > > >> Of course, getting back to BBC stuff, why on earth someone hasn't > >> released: > >> 1) A stereo copy of the BBC Radio One In Concert CD > >> or > > > >Didn't someone boot this one as "Space Rock From London"? > Someone sent me a CDR with that title, and it's the same as the old tape I > used to have with Andy Dunkley introducing it - with that girl who does the > most un-computerlike-countdown sequence this side of Red Dwarf :) It's a straight copy from the BBC Transcription disc. Weirdly, though it's from the same gig as the BBC Windsong CD, it's a different mix with different cuts from the tracks. FoFP From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Apr 11 06:19:10 2000 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Zebulon Mysterioso) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:19:10 GMT Subject: OFF Re: CD burner software MACINTOSH Message-ID: ketil wrote: >...that leaves me out of toast 4's "direct from vinyl with the >pops and clicks removed"-feature etc... Why would you want to remove the pops and clicks from vinyl playback??? They're half the magic..... ;?> Chris. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Apr 11 07:08:38 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 07:08:38 EDT Subject: OFF: Fwd: FW: strangeness and charm? Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Diacollett at aol.com Subject: FW: strangeness Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 11:56:26 EDT Size: 1266 URL: From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Tue Apr 11 08:53:06 2000 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:53:06 +0100 Subject: OFF: Orange Goblin Message-ID: >On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Mark Lee wrote: > >> Spotted this in my in tray this morning - is >> this the Orange Goblin I've heard discussed on the >> list ?? >> >> THE VICTORIA INN, DERBY >> GIG GUIDE - MAY 2000 >> >> ========================================== >> Tue 16th May 2000 >> ORANGE GOBLIN >> +GOATSNAKE >> +SUN >> Rock >> 6.00 Adv >> 7.50 Door >> ========================================== > > That's them! And Goatsnake are pretty damn crushing >too; Southern >fried doom, might be the best way to put it. Sun is actually >Sunn0))) [hey, I just tell what I know) and Rise Above claim >they're also >good but then they want to sell records. However, if I had >money, I'd be >there... Yours, > Jon > >-- > | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) >jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | > | >======================================================================| > | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? >You've just | > | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" >Harry Hill | Thanks Jon, Looks like my nights booked then. Anybody else going ? Mark (Hasbeen) mark at esparto.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ END MESSAGE ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Tue Apr 11 09:00:33 2000 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:00:33 +0100 Subject: HW- Other activities Message-ID: >-----Original Message----- >From: ANDREW GARIBALDI [mailto:andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM] >Sent: 11 April 2000 05:00 >Subject: Re: HW- Other activities > > >Just to keep you all informed: >Friday 12th May Spacehead play The Railway Hotel, Buxton, Derbyshire, >supported by Harvey Bainbridge, with full lightshow. Tickets >on the door >on the night are just ?3 each and doors open 8pm. If you're not in the >area, tell a friend who is..... >Ta, >Andy G'b Me and Martyn and Stuart will be rolling up the hill to Buxton, (That's 3/5 of Dr Hasbeen anyway). [Ed: Apologies for the dreadful lack of grammar in the above] Anybody else 'up for it' ? Mark (Hasbeen). From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Apr 11 09:17:37 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:17:37 +1000 Subject: BOC: Imaginos CD, and other CD queries Message-ID: Every CD copy of Imaginos I see on ebay states that it is out of print ('gone for good' in one case), yet I saw it listed in a catalogue today with a release date of October 17, 1999 (label not given). Anyone know what the story is? Ditto 'Secret Treaties'. Has this become difficult to get? Also re. ST's: my Australian LP copy used to have red lettering, but the import CD I bought of it about 5 years ago has green. Which is usual? Finally, re the self-titled album: I bought a CD copy, about 8 years ago, and the quality was really poor: very muffled sound; no hard edges to the guitar; generally inferior. However it was in the CBS budget price series at 9.95 (which is actually very cheap for a CD in Australia), so I thought perhaps that may have had something to do with it, and I bought a full-priced copy on their regular label at about $30.00, and that was exactly the same. So my question is simply, did they ever get around to releasing a CD version of BOC which was as good as the vinyl? Tyranny and ST sound great on CD, but the two BOC's I've heard sound pretty sorry. -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Tue Apr 11 09:28:01 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:28:01 +0100 Subject: HW: Kings Of Speed, Lords Of Light Message-ID: Just picked up the above CD in a 2nd hand shop. I assume it's a bootleg. Are the recording details right. Live 18/5/91 at Latin Quarter, Detroit. If so, what was the line up? Stuart Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Apr 11 10:26:56 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:26:56 +0000 Subject: BOC: Imaginos CD, and other CD queries Message-ID: Tim Gadd wrote: > Finally, re the self-titled album: I bought a CD copy, about 8 years ago, > and the quality was really poor: very muffled sound; no hard edges to the > guitar; generally inferior. However it was in the CBS budget price series at > 9.95 (which is actually very cheap for a CD in Australia), so I thought > perhaps that may have had something to do with it, and I bought a > full-priced copy on their regular label at about $30.00, and that was > exactly the same. So my question is simply, did they ever get around to > releasing a CD version of BOC which was as good as the vinyl? Tyranny and ST > sound great on CD, but the two BOC's I've heard sound pretty sorry. The CD sound quality of _Blue Oyster Cult_ and _Secret Treaties_ has long been a topic of complaint on here, i.e., the consensus is that they are not very good at all. Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs remastered and released a 2-for-1 of _Blue Oyster Cult_ and _Tyranny and Mutation_ on one CD not that long ago. However, since MFSL have gone bust, they may be hard to come by nowadays. By all accounts, the sound quality is great. Cheers, Paul. -- e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Apr 11 10:28:59 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:28:59 +0000 Subject: HW: Kings Of Speed, Lords Of Light Message-ID: Zeitgeist wrote: > Just picked up the above CD in a 2nd hand shop. I assume it's a bootleg. > Are the recording details right. Live 18/5/91 at Latin Quarter, Detroit. > If so, what was the line up? No, I believe it is from Bochum, Germany. (One of the list members taped it, in fact.:) I just looked at the "README" file for the copy I have up on my FTP site, but, alas, I neglected to record the venue and date of the gig. :-( Cheers, Paul. -- e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Tue Apr 11 11:23:22 2000 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:23:22 +0200 Subject: HW: Kings Of Speed, Lords Of Light In-Reply-To: <38F336AB.D7E120B7@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: Hi there At 14:28 11.04.2000 +0000, you wrote: >Zeitgeist wrote: > >> Just picked up the above CD in a 2nd hand shop. I assume it's a bootleg. >> Are the recording details right. Live 18/5/91 at Latin Quarter, Detroit. >> If so, what was the line up? > >No, I believe it is from Bochum, Germany. (One of the list members >taped it, in fact.:) Thats true. It is from Bochum, Germany, 08 October 1991. And I was there, and Rainer, and Andreas, and .....yes, also Adrian Parr Bernhard From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Apr 11 11:54:02 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 16:54:02 +0100 Subject: HW: Guest spots and Sessions In-Reply-To: <003f01bfa23d$089747a0$2c7ca8c2@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Nick Lee wrote: > Forgive me if this has been covered in the past. Which HW members, > excluding those with their own groups e.g. Lemmy, Huw, Nik, have been > the most active in sessions over the years? The obvious ones are Simon > House (Bowie, Japan), Simon King (Eno)...anyone got a full listing? I > remember Dave Brock being credited for work with Iggy but when I asked > him about this years ago he didn't know anything about it; apart from > Capt. Lockheed and New World's Fair I don't think he has played on > anyone elses stuff. > > Dave did guest on synth on the Dumpy's Rusty Nuts album "Get Out > On the Road" on the track Hawkwind. Dumpy's next (live) album > featured Alan Davey on loan as bassist and short lived Hawk drummer > Mick Kirton. > > Nick From somewhere on ftp.spc.edu I found a thing called the Hawkwind Family Tree, which has a lot of this stuff, and also the discography there has spin-offs listed; it claims Dave guested on the Nektar album _Down To Earth_, but doesn't mention Bob, who certainly did. Given this, and the fact that it also badly confuses Simons King and House, I wonder if anyone knows if this is actually true? Also, Mick Kirton's a new one on me - when did he fit in on the stool? Cheers for help, yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Apr 11 12:27:42 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 02:27:42 +1000 Subject: BOC: Imaginos CD, and other CD queries Message-ID: At 02:26 PM 4/11/00 +0000, Paul Mather wrote: >The CD sound quality of _Blue Oyster Cult_ and _Secret Treaties_ has >long been a topic of complaint on here, i.e., the consensus is that they >are not very good at all. > >Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs remastered and released a 2-for-1 of _Blue >Oyster Cult_ and _Tyranny and Mutation_ on one CD not that long ago. >However, since MFSL have gone bust, they may be hard to come by >nowadays. By all accounts, the sound quality is great. I think n Australian CD store has a set of the first 3 CD's available, but it's about $50 from memory. There's nothing wrong with my SecretTeaties, sound wise. It's great! Sharper and clearer than the vinyl, with good dynamic range. No complaints at all. Mind you I like that early, kinda thinnish, abrasive production style, but this has transribed to CD without losing anything IMO. I don't know what pressings the complaints are about, but mine's a US pressing on Columbia; nothing exotic about it. It doesn't suffer at all from the muddiness of the first album on CD. -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US Tue Apr 11 12:29:19 2000 From: blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US (Brad M. Lauchnor) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:29:19 -0600 Subject: OFF CD burner software Message-ID: The version of Easy CD creator that I use is V. 3.01d It has a DAO option but you MUST select it if you want it to work! :) Most of the clicking is usually generated during the read process. I ALWAYS read an audio disk to my hard drive and then write to the disc. If you want you can get Exact Audio Copy it's free-ware that makes exact copies from CD to your hard dirve. Go here for EAC http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/ you can configure it to read faster than 0.5x that it starts at. On most disks I can read at 2.8x with the HP 8100 I use. CDR WIN is good for writing but I don't always trust it to read. I've put some bad discs in to test it and it read them improperly and gave no warning. Brad L. Cliff & Pam Wheaton Wrote: I've not had any real problems with my copy of this,although, I HAVE to run dao or I get the 2-sec. break.No other choice on this one:( The only annoyance I find is an occasional pop midway thru a track. Gotta get around that one soon!!! I'm thinking about looking for something else, just to check them out , for now. Pam Kevin Sommers wrote: > I know of some who have had luck with Easy-CD Creator, which comes bundled > with some burners, but as far as I know it still forces that two-second > pregap between each song. I use CDRWIN (http://www.goldenhawk.com), which I > like a lot. From denis at D-RIDER.DE Tue Apr 11 12:37:30 2000 From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:37:30 +0200 Subject: HW: Guest spots and Sessions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, >Also, Mick Kirton's a new one on me - when did he fit in on the >stool? Cheers for help, yours, Mick Kirton was in the band between August and October 1988. He joined after Danny Thompson left and was replaced by Richard Chadwick. regards D+R From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Tue Apr 11 14:30:01 2000 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 19:30:01 +0100 Subject: OFF: The Muffin Men & Jimmy Carl Black Message-ID: I know I keep banging on about these guys, but they really are good fun, and they're touring with JCB himself on vocals in April, as follows. Fri 14 Hanover Hotel, Liverpool 0151 709 6223 Sat 15 Acorn Arts Centre, Penzance 01736 365520 Sun 16 The Brook, Southampton 01703 555366 Tue 18 Cartoon, Croydon 0181 560 6252 Wed 19 Rock Cafe, Stourbridge 01384 390918 Thu 20 Boardwalk, Shefield 01142 799090 Fri 21 Fishpond, Matlock Bath 01629 581000 * Sat 22 Torrington, London (Finchley?) 0181 560 6252 Sun 23 Thatched House, Stockport 0161 683 5220 * Mon 24 Alexanders, Chester 01244 340005 * Tue 25 Worcester Park Hotel, London 0181 560 6252 Wed 26 Fiddlers, Bristol 01179 873403 Thu 27 Zaks, Milton Keynes (Wolverton?) 01908 315447 * Fri 28 The Dome, Whitley Bay 0191 251 2800 I don't know why the 3 Greater London dates have the same phone number; common promoter perhaps? I may be attending one or more of the *ed dates, anybody else thinking about it let me know and we'll arrange a meet (unless you want to give me a wide berth of course *g*) Cheers, ChrisW ObCD: Painted Desert - Ikue Mori (w/R.Quine & Marc Ribot) "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Apr 11 15:13:55 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:13:55 -0400 Subject: HW- Other activities In-Reply-To: <38F2A34D.1269@dial.pipex.com>; from andygee@DIAL.PIPEX.COM on Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 09:00:13PM -0700 Message-ID: On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 09:00:13PM -0700, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: > Friday 12th May Spacehead play The Railway Hotel, Buxton, Derbyshire, > supported by Harvey Bainbridge, with full lightshow. Damn. I really gotta move to the UK for a couple of years... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of ridicule. he was NOT a loser. thank you, Mr. Schulz. - Robert C. Mayo From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Tue Apr 11 15:32:39 2000 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 20:32:39 +0100 Subject: HW: Guest spots and Sessions In-Reply-To: <4.3.0.20000411183429.00aff3c0@kommsrv.rz.unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: Mick Kirton had been in the Tony McPhee Band / Groundhogs from approx 1983 to (I think) 1986 at least, just in case anyone is taking notes. I saw them play about 10 times during that time span. Alasdair On 11 Apr 00, at 18:37, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > Hi, > > >Also, Mick Kirton's a new one on me - when did he fit in on the > >stool? Cheers for help, yours, > > Mick Kirton was in the band between August and October 1988. He joined > after Danny Thompson left and was replaced by Richard Chadwick. > > regards > > D+R > -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Apr 11 16:21:53 2000 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:21:53 +0100 Subject: HW: Guest spots and Sessions Message-ID: > > >Also, Mick Kirton's a new one on me - when did he fit in on the > >stool? Cheers for help, yours, > He played for a few gigs around September '88 between Thompson and Chadwick. Nick From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Tue Apr 11 16:00:14 2000 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:00:14 +0100 Subject: OFF Re: CD burner software MACINTOSH In-Reply-To: <20000411101910.48807.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: At 11:19 11/04/00, you wrote: >ketil wrote: > >>...that leaves me out of toast 4's "direct from vinyl with the >>pops and clicks removed"-feature etc... > >Why would you want to remove the pops and clicks from vinyl playback??? >They're half the magic..... ;?> > >Chris. Indeed they are...alternatively, get a stylus with a different profile that plays the clean parts of the groove! Audiophilically Yours, ChrisW "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Tue Apr 11 16:04:01 2000 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:04:01 +0100 Subject: OFF: Orange Goblin In-Reply-To: <91BAA0121CBDD31183B400A0CC585F7162A6@BRIGHTON> Message-ID: 2At 13:53 11/04/00, you wrote: > >On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Mark Lee wrote: > > > >> Spotted this in my in tray this morning - is this the Orange Goblin I've > >>heard discussed on the list ?? > >> THE VICTORIA INN, DERBY GIG GUIDE - MAY 2000 > >> ========================================== > >> Tue 16th May 2000 > >> ORANGE GOBLIN > >> ========================================== > >Looks like my nights booked then. Anybody else going ? > >Mark (Hasbeen) Subject to the usual ifs, buts & maybes, I'll try & be there...I'll let you know - be nice to meet a "local" listmember ChrisW "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Tue Apr 11 16:05:52 2000 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:05:52 +0100 Subject: HW- Other activities In-Reply-To: <91BAA0121CBDD31183B400A0CC585F7162A7@BRIGHTON> Message-ID: At 14:00 11/04/00, you wrote: > >-----Original Message----- > >From: ANDREW GARIBALDI [mailto:andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM] > >Sent: 11 April 2000 05:00 > >Subject: Re: HW- Other activities > > > > > >Just to keep you all informed: > >Friday 12th May Spacehead play The Railway Hotel, Buxton, Derbyshire, > >supported by Harvey Bainbridge, with full lightshow. Tickets > >Me and Martyn and Stuart will be rolling up the hill to Buxton, >(That's 3/5 of Dr Hasbeen anyway). > >Anybody else 'up for it' ? > >Mark (Hasbeen). A bigger maybe than Orange Goblin - Fridays need clearance from the S.O. - but still a maybe ChrisW "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Apr 11 21:48:45 2000 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:48:45 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dark Sun In-Reply-To: <200004100049.UAA08378@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: At 19.47 -0400 00-04-09, K Henderson wrote: >Miikka said sadly... >>Greetings from the Dark Sun Galaxy, >>Bad news about our live CD, I'm afraid. I just got a reply from Ville Maila, >>who told me that Metamorphos won't be operating any more. This means that >>he's not going to release the Ice Ritual live album feat. Nik Turner, at >>least not for a while. > >Ack! That sucks! That sucks giant mutant space goats :( >>He has offered to sell the master to us for 3500,- Finnish marks, let's see >>what happens. Interested, anyone? >> >>All this means, that Ice Ritual will now only be released on vinyl (limited >>edition of 300 copies) by Danish Burnt Hippie Recordings. The vinyl edition >>should be ready in two weeks. > >You getting any of these Andy? Looks like the only source, right now. This is Scott Heller's baby, this project. Scott, can't Burnt Hippie release CDs? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Apr 11 21:54:09 2000 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:54:09 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dark Orange Sun Goblin In-Reply-To: <011601bfa00f$fa68f7c0$8c3e883e@jds> Message-ID: At 22.35 +0100 00-04-06, Jill Strobridge wrote: >They are playing in Edinburgh soon and I was >wondering if should go along. Damn fine live band, Orange Goblin. They've done a lot of gigging in the last few years, and the stage suits them very well now. I would not recommend missing them. Much rocking :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Wed Apr 12 00:45:48 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 00:45:48 EDT Subject: new motorhead free mp3 Message-ID: anyone interested should go to imotorhead.com ('latest news') where there's a link to a site that offers a newly-recorded and exclusive 'orgasmatrom 2000' for free download. i'd be interested to hear any feedback from those who successfully download this file; when i tried, the download box said it would take 37 minutes (!) and after waiting about 20, a box popped up and said there wasn't enough room on my hard drive for the file (!!) Hmmmmm..... rmayo From SHLL at NOVO.DK Wed Apr 12 05:09:31 2000 From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:09:31 +0200 Subject: OFF:Dark Sun Message-ID: Hej, It is correct that myself and some other guys have started a new record label called Burnt Hippie Records. Our first release is the live Dark Sun- Ice Ritual. It will be limited to 300 copies on 220 gram vinyl with a two sided insert with band pictures and information. The artwork is fantastic. I hope it looks as good on the record cover as in the photshop files.. Anyway, this should arrive next week. We will not be selling this directly. Only via distributors. In the UK you will be able to buy it from Freak Emporium and CD Services (Andy G). In Germany, Swamp Room will distribute it and in Italy, Vinyl Magic. In Sweden, Beautiful lies you could live in and Garageland to start. As for the release of the Dark Sun on CD. We are discussing doing this as well but we have our first three releases to get out the door first. Next up after Dark Sun is the On Trial 2lp live record, again 300 on vinyl. There will be no CD release of this release, that is for sure. This will come the last week in April. Last week in May is the psychedelic stoner rock band Gas Giant. Great band... They do not sound like Kyuss!! Powerful catchy songs, but fucking heavy! The band are great live as they improvise a lot and the songs are always changing. A lot of jamming and long songs live by this band! That is all I can say at this time.. scott From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Wed Apr 12 05:20:11 2000 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:20:11 +0100 Subject: The Muffin Men & Jimmy Carl Black Message-ID: >-----Original Message----- >From: Chris Warburton [mailto:desdinova at EARTHLING.NET] >Sent: 11 April 2000 19:30 >Subject: OFF: The Muffin Men & Jimmy Carl Black > > >I know I keep banging on about these guys, but they really are >good fun, >and they're touring with JCB himself on vocals in April, as follows. > >Fri 21 Fishpond, Matlock Bath 01629 581000 * I assume these are April dates ? If so it looks good for me atm. >I may be attending one or more of the *ed dates, anybody else thinking >about it let me know and we'll arrange a meet (unless you want >to give me a >wide berth of course *g*) How wide :) >"a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for >a coffin" - sniff ! Mark (Hasbeen) From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Apr 12 06:48:12 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:48:12 +0100 Subject: OFF: Magma Message-ID: Years ago I heard an LP by Magma (1981 actually in Edinburgh after the HW Sonic Attack tour). Blackish cover featuring gargoyles? and the band's name in red. I remember being seriously impressed; when I finally got round to buying some of their stuff (Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh) in 1988 what a shock! (Andy G'b could excommunicate me from the CD Services mailing list for this!) Ugh crap. A clunky 'oribble thing, badly executed, second division Amon Duul 2 wannabes...pretentious poorly played kak...hello, hello...who let the cat in, blimey it's Stella Vander. I dug out MDK last week put it on the turntable and gave it a listen; time hasn't improved it. Some questions for the good people of the BOC-L. 1. Did I pick a stinker? 2. What was the name of that Magma LP that I heard in 81 and is it different from MDK? 3. What is the best Magma? Dave np: Paul Oakenfold - The Goa Mix -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Apr 12 07:20:15 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:20:15 EDT Subject: Fwd: HW: Guest spots and Sessions///and doc synth sez... Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: DWa2898572 at aol.com Subject: Re: HW: Guest spots and Sessions Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:50:47 EDT Size: 477 URL: From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Apr 12 07:33:00 2000 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:33:00 -0400 Subject: OFF: Rockin' to the oldies with Lemmy In-Reply-To: <9f.3e009b0.2625597c@aol.com> Message-ID: At 00.45 -0400 00-04-12, Robert C. Mayo wrote: >anyone interested should go to imotorhead.com ('latest news') where there's a >link to a site that offers a newly-recorded and exclusive 'orgasmatrom 2000' >for free download. Speaking of new Lemmy, has anyone else heard the 50s cover album _Lemmy, Slim Jim, & Danny B_? Chock full of rock'n'roll standards with Lemmy singing, harmonica-ing, and playing acoustic guitar (his two accomplices providing the rest of the obligatory rock trio instrumentation). It's much tamer than the awe-inspiring Upsetters cover of "Blue Suede Shoes", and therefore IMO not as good, but still a disc not to be missed. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Apr 12 07:36:14 2000 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:36:14 -0400 Subject: OFF:Dark Sun In-Reply-To: <27839F4FFBF6D21181E20008C7C56408040E9C0C@exdkba04.novo.dk> Message-ID: At 11.09 +0200 00-04-12, SHLL (Scott Heller wrote: > As for the release of the Dark Sun on CD. We are discussing doing >this as well but we have our first three releases to get out the door first. Fair enough! > Last week in May is the psychedelic stoner rock band Gas Giant. >Great band... They do not sound like Kyuss!! Powerful catchy songs, but >fucking heavy! The band are great live as they improvise a lot and the >songs are always changing. A lot of jamming and long songs live by this >band! Gas Giant are, indeed, excellent. I'd compare them with early Monster Magnet, and they sound like they would be excellent live. Have to get to Danmark some time ... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Apr 12 09:40:22 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:40:22 -0400 Subject: OFF: Magma Message-ID: Dave asked.... >Years ago I heard an LP by Magma (1981 actually in Edinburgh after the HW Sonic >Attack tour). Blackish cover featuring gargoyles? and the band's name in red. Udu Wudu perhaps? The Attahk cover had those weird Giger dudes on it, but I'm sure the band's name wasn't in red. >I remember being seriously impressed; when I finally got round to buying some of >their stuff (Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh) in 1988 what a shock! (Andy G'b could >excommunicate me from the CD Services mailing list for this!) Ugh crap. A clunky >'oribble thing, badly executed, second division Amon Duul 2 >wannabes...pretentious poorly played kak...hello, hello...who let the cat in, >blimey it's Stella Vander. >I dug out MDK last week put it on the turntable and gave it a listen; time hasn't >improved it. >Some questions for the good people of the BOC-L. >1. Did I pick a stinker? Well, I guess you and I are the only ones, but I don't like MDK much either. Most of the Magma-heads on rmp (where I usually don't fit in too well anyway) think it's the best damn thing ever made. >2. What was the name of that Magma LP that I heard in 81 and is it different from >MDK? If it were Udu Wudu (from 1976), than yes, a lot different. >3. What is the best Magma? Udu Wudu is my favourite...it has a sort of parallel feel to Space Ritual blanga, esp. during the side-long "De Futura" space jam. The bassist Jannick Top doing an "alternate universe" rendition of the rumbling, scary bass blanga. Totally different sound...demonic almost. Brilliant! 100% pretentious too...but in a 'good' way. :) Kohntarkosz is the other album that's usually cited to be among their best, and I do like that one quite a lot...far more than MDK anyway. Live Hhai (which exists in both single CD form, and (from what I hear) much better quality double CD form) includes alternate versions of both the MDK and Kohntark (retitled thusly) epics. Pretty good. The Christian Vander 'solo' album, the soundtrack to some version of Tristan et Isolde, now titled Wurdah Itah is more similar to MDK (although lots of short tracks instead of giant pieces). Hit and miss for me. This stuff is all from their 'classic' period from 1973-75 or so. Udu Wudu was 1976 and their transition (I would guess) into what became the 'gospel' Magma of the late 70s (and judging by this 1981 video I've just seen...thanks Karen) and early 80s. The album Attahk (1978) I quite like also, even though it's both jazzier and (as I said) kinda like 'gospel.' Vander and cohorts go over the top a bit (nothing surprising there) with the falsetto voices and quasi-spiritual revival-ing....but I like it in limited doses. The second hour of the video is too much of a dose, and it got a little tired for me. I'm not sure what the history has been since then...they put out some 'Retrospectiw' discs (three parts, I and II together) which are actually 'original' recordings I believe. And then a 'Merci' live show (?), which doesn't rate too highly with other fans. And then the recent reformation of a new version of the band that recently came to the US to do four shows. I saw them at ProgFest, and even though they played material entirely from MDK, Kohntarkosz, and Hhai, I thought that they were the most amazing thing I'd ever seen. The new bassist Phillipe Bussonet (?) was out of this world!! And Vander is a fabulous drummer...he looks completely unorthodox (kinda like Keith Moon), but he's always right on. And he 'directs' the band from his drum kit in a strange way that I can't describe. The only really new thing they recorded was a CD-single (name escapes me) that I hear is great. I heard rumours of a new album, but then I've also heard rumours that their breakup is once again imminent. So who knows? Andy G'b might. :) Most of that's probably right...feel free to correct me/fill in details anyone Grakkl (FAA) From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Apr 12 10:53:14 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:53:14 EDT Subject: OFF: Magma Message-ID: In a message dated 4/12/00 10:42:49 AM, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: << >I dug out MDK last week put it on the turntable and gave it a listen; time hasn't >improved it. >Some questions for the good people of the BOC-L. >1. Did I pick a stinker? >> ===== well, um, i reviewed it in CREEM magazine on their "rock-a-rama" page, summer 76; i wrote it backwards.... i have a radio broadcast of theirs from their 'peak years' which i liked better than MDK...well, at least until the drum solo starts..... "<>" From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Wed Apr 12 10:56:21 2000 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John Mcintyre) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:56:21 -0400 Subject: HW: Alchemy Message-ID: Tim Gadd wrote: > This talk of side-projects reminded me, I used o have a 1969 Third Ear Band > album called 'Alchemy', which had absolutely no lineup or composer notes at > all. As a matter of fact I don't think it had any notes of any sort. Dos > anyone know whether Smin House was in the badn at that early stage? The > album had violin on it, but it didn;t sound very much like SH's HW/Deep Fix > style. According to _Adrift In The Ether_, Richard Coff was the violinist on _Alchemy_. Simon House is on _Music From Macbeth_. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Apr 12 11:52:39 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:52:39 +0100 Subject: OFF: Magma Message-ID: The Magma LP reminded me of the Space Ritual in some ways - perhaps it was Udu Wudu. If I can get my hands on a copy I'll let you know. Dave np: Stevie Wonder - Innervisions -----Original Message----- From: K Henderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 12 April 2000 15:53 Subject: Re: OFF: Magma >Dave asked.... > >>Years ago I heard an LP by Magma (1981 actually in Edinburgh after the HW >Sonic >Attack tour). Blackish cover featuring gargoyles? and the band's name >in red. > >Udu Wudu perhaps? The Attahk cover had those weird Giger dudes on it, but >I'm sure the band's name wasn't in red. > >>I remember being seriously impressed; when I finally got round to buying >some of >their stuff (Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh) in 1988 what a shock! >(Andy G'b could >excommunicate me from the CD Services mailing list for >this!) Ugh crap. A clunky >'oribble thing, badly executed, second division >Amon Duul 2 >wannabes...pretentious poorly played kak...hello, hello...who >let the cat in, >blimey it's Stella Vander. >>I dug out MDK last week put it on the turntable and gave it a listen; time >hasn't >improved it. >>Some questions for the good people of the BOC-L. >>1. Did I pick a stinker? > >Well, I guess you and I are the only ones, but I don't like MDK much either. >Most of the Magma-heads on rmp (where I usually don't fit in too well >anyway) think it's the best damn thing ever made. > >>2. What was the name of that Magma LP that I heard in 81 and is it >different from >MDK? > >If it were Udu Wudu (from 1976), than yes, a lot different. > >>3. What is the best Magma? > >Udu Wudu is my favourite...it has a sort of parallel feel to Space Ritual >blanga, esp. during the side-long "De Futura" space jam. The bassist Jannick >Top doing an "alternate universe" rendition of the rumbling, scary bass >blanga. Totally different sound...demonic almost. Brilliant! 100% >pretentious too...but in a 'good' way. :) > >Kohntarkosz is the other album that's usually cited to be among their best, >and I do like that one quite a lot...far more than MDK anyway. Live Hhai >(which exists in both single CD form, and (from what I hear) much better >quality double CD form) includes alternate versions of both the MDK and >Kohntark (retitled thusly) epics. >Pretty good. The Christian Vander 'solo' album, the soundtrack to some >version of Tristan et Isolde, now titled Wurdah Itah is more similar to MDK >(although lots of short tracks instead of giant pieces). Hit and miss for me. > >This stuff is all from their 'classic' period from 1973-75 or so. Udu Wudu >was 1976 and their transition (I would guess) into what became the 'gospel' >Magma of the late 70s (and judging by this 1981 video I've just >seen...thanks Karen) and early 80s. The album Attahk (1978) I quite like >also, even though it's both jazzier and (as I said) kinda like 'gospel.' >Vander and cohorts go over the top a bit (nothing surprising there) with the >falsetto voices and quasi-spiritual revival-ing....but I like it in limited >doses. The second hour of the video is too much of a dose, and it got a >little tired for me. > >I'm not sure what the history has been since then...they put out some >'Retrospectiw' discs (three parts, I and II together) which are actually >'original' recordings I believe. And then a 'Merci' live show (?), which >doesn't rate too highly with other fans. And then the recent reformation of >a new version of the band that recently came to the US to do four shows. I >saw them at ProgFest, and even though they played material entirely from >MDK, Kohntarkosz, and Hhai, I thought that they were the most amazing thing >I'd ever seen. The new bassist Phillipe Bussonet (?) was out of this >world!! And Vander is a fabulous drummer...he looks completely unorthodox >(kinda like Keith Moon), but he's always right on. And he 'directs' the >band from his drum kit in a strange way that I can't describe. > >The only really new thing they recorded was a CD-single (name escapes me) >that I hear is great. I heard rumours of a new album, but then I've also >heard rumours that their breakup is once again imminent. So who knows? >Andy G'b might. :) > >Most of that's probably right...feel free to correct me/fill in details anyone > >Grakkl (FAA) > From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Apr 12 19:34:49 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:34:49 -0700 Subject: HW Nik's work Message-ID: And don't forget Nik's work with BIG AMONGST SHEEP ------------------------------------------------- and ........... Babylon Whores, too!!!!Who? Check out the latest album - it's amazing!!!!!!!! Andy G'b From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Apr 12 19:40:49 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:40:49 -0700 Subject: HW - Magma bits Message-ID: 1. Did I pick a stinker? No - acknowledged to be one of their finest 2. What was the name of that Magma LP that I heard in 81 and is it different from MDK? You heard 'Attahk' and, yes, it's quite different from MDK, but whetehr or not you'd like it.....well, wait for a month or so and you can get it and a lot more, really cheap but I can't say more just yet as it's something I've put together for a label 3. What is the best Magma? See above, but to be honest, if you don't like MDK, debateable you'd enjoy much, altho' their more direct tracks, such as the ones on the thing I've put together, would be a good place to make yuor mind up finally. If you can't wait, try ''Udu Wudu" as it's the most instrumental .....and I don't mind a bit....each to their own - it makes the world go round, eh!!! God, I love Bad English, so what does that make me??? Andy G'b From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Apr 12 13:09:54 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:09:54 +0100 Subject: HW Nik's work In-Reply-To: <38F50819.6E89@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: > Babylon Whores, too!!!!Who? Another Finnish outfit... -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Apr 12 13:34:34 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:34:34 EDT Subject: HW - Magma bits In-Reply-To: <38F50981.4AF7@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: On 12 Apr 00, at 16:40, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: God, I love Bad English, so what > does that make me??? Andy G'b Somebody who gets superior drugs? theo From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Wed Apr 12 15:02:37 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:02:37 -0400 Subject: Fwd: [ARTIMUS-SLOTERDIJK-Pod] SLOTERDIJK: THE DRUID'S BALL, SAT APRIL 15TH, FREE!!!!!! 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From: DWa2898572 at aol.com Subject: Re: HW Nik's work Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:41:52 EDT Size: 479 URL: From jperkins at MAILCITY.COM Wed Apr 12 20:47:16 2000 From: jperkins at MAILCITY.COM (Jeff P) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:47:16 -0400 Subject: HW: Guest spots and Sessions Message-ID: And while thinking about session guys Henry Lowther(from memory) who played trumpet on 25 Years shows up all over the place (like on a Keith Tippett lp, also from memory) From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Apr 13 04:24:06 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 18:24:06 +1000 Subject: HW: Guest spots and Sessions Message-ID: At 08:47 PM 4/12/00 -0400, Jeff P wrote: >And while thinking about session guys Henry Lowther(from memory) who played >trumpet on 25 Years shows up all over the place (like on a Keith Tippett lp, >also from memory) Yeah, I used to have him on some other album, but I haven't a clue now what it was :/ -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Apr 13 04:26:56 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 18:26:56 +1000 Subject: HW: Hawkwind/Amon Duul 2CD? Message-ID: Sanity have an album in their catalogue, which only has these details: Artist: Hawkwind/Amon Duul Title: Gold collection Australian pressing 2 CD Does anyone know what's actually on this? -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Apr 13 08:47:58 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 08:47:58 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dots Message-ID: Legendary Pink Dots No. American tour 2000: 5/24 - Toronto, ON Lee's Palace 5/25 - London, ON Call the Office 5/26 - Montreal, PQ Cabaret Music Hall 5/27 - Cambridge, MA Middle East Downstairs 5/28 - Winooski, VT Higher Ground 5/31 - Rochester, NY TO BE CONFIRMED 6/01 - New York, NY Wetlands Preserve 6/02 - Washington, DC Black Cat 6/03 - Philadelphia, PA Upstage 6/04 - Richmond, VA Twisters 6/06 - Carborro, NC Cat's Cradle 6/07 - Charlotte, NC Tremont Music Hall 6/08 - Atlanta, GA Cotton Club 6/09 - Jacksonville, FL Jack Rabbits 6/10 - Orlando, FL Sapphire Supper Club 6/11 - St. Petersburg, FL The State Theatre 6/12 - New Orleans, LA Howlin' Wolf 6/14 - Cincinnati, OH Bogart's 6/15 - Cleveland, OH Peabody's Down Under 6/16 - Columbus, OH Little Brother's 6/17 - Pittsburgh, PA TO BE CONFIRMED 6/18 - Pontiac, MI 7th House 6/20 - Milwaukee, WI Rave Bar 6/21 - Minneapolis, MN First Avenue 6/22 - Chicago, IL Double Door 6/23 - St. Louis, MO Side Door 6/24 - Lawrence, KS The Bottleneck 6/26 - Austin, TX Stubb's Bar-B-Q 6/27 - Houston, TX Instant Karma 6/28 - Dallas, TX TO BE CONFIRMED 6/30 - Denver, CO Bluebird Theatre 7/01 - Denver, CO Bluebird Theatre 7/03 - Salt Lake City, UT DV8 7/05 - Los Angeles, CA Roxy Theatre 7/06 - Santra Ana, CA TO BE CONFIRMED 7/07 - San Francisco, CA TO BE CONFIRMED 7/08 - Portland, OR TO BE CONFIRMED 7/09 - Seattle, WA TO BE CONFIRMED 7/10 - Vancouver, BC TO BE CONFIRMED 7/11 - San Juan Island TO BE CONFIRMED From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Thu Apr 13 10:38:39 2000 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:38:39 -0400 Subject: Dots Message-ID: I have seen this band name mentioned here before - what are they like? I may try to see them in Cambridge, MA > -----Original Message----- > From: K Henderson [SMTP:henderson.120 at OSU.EDU] > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 8:48 AM > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: OFF: Dots > > Legendary Pink Dots No. American tour 2000: > > 5/24 - Toronto, ON Lee's Palace > 5/25 - London, ON Call the Office > 5/26 - Montreal, PQ Cabaret Music Hall > 5/27 - Cambridge, MA Middle East Downstairs > 5/28 - Winooski, VT Higher Ground > 5/31 - Rochester, NY TO BE CONFIRMED > 6/01 - New York, NY Wetlands Preserve > 6/02 - Washington, DC Black Cat > 6/03 - Philadelphia, PA Upstage > 6/04 - Richmond, VA Twisters > 6/06 - Carborro, NC Cat's Cradle > 6/07 - Charlotte, NC Tremont Music Hall > 6/08 - Atlanta, GA Cotton Club > 6/09 - Jacksonville, FL Jack Rabbits > 6/10 - Orlando, FL Sapphire Supper Club > 6/11 - St. Petersburg, FL The State Theatre > 6/12 - New Orleans, LA Howlin' Wolf > 6/14 - Cincinnati, OH Bogart's > 6/15 - Cleveland, OH Peabody's Down Under > 6/16 - Columbus, OH Little Brother's > 6/17 - Pittsburgh, PA TO BE CONFIRMED > 6/18 - Pontiac, MI 7th House > 6/20 - Milwaukee, WI Rave Bar > 6/21 - Minneapolis, MN First Avenue > 6/22 - Chicago, IL Double Door > 6/23 - St. Louis, MO Side Door > 6/24 - Lawrence, KS The Bottleneck > 6/26 - Austin, TX Stubb's Bar-B-Q > 6/27 - Houston, TX Instant Karma > 6/28 - Dallas, TX TO BE CONFIRMED > 6/30 - Denver, CO Bluebird Theatre > 7/01 - Denver, CO Bluebird Theatre > 7/03 - Salt Lake City, UT DV8 > 7/05 - Los Angeles, CA Roxy Theatre > 7/06 - Santra Ana, CA TO BE CONFIRMED > 7/07 - San Francisco, CA TO BE CONFIRMED > 7/08 - Portland, OR TO BE CONFIRMED > 7/09 - Seattle, WA TO BE CONFIRMED > 7/10 - Vancouver, BC TO BE CONFIRMED > 7/11 - San Juan Island TO BE CONFIRMED From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu Apr 13 10:54:21 2000 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 22:54:21 +0800 Subject: HW: Guest spots and Sessions In-Reply-To: <20000413082405.JPFN14975.mta02.mail.mel.aone.net.au@Default> Message-ID: > At 08:47 PM 4/12/00 -0400, Jeff P wrote: > >And while thinking about session guys Henry Lowther(from memory) > who played > >trumpet on 25 Years shows up all over the place (like on a Keith > Tippett lp, > >also from memory) > > > Yeah, I used to have him on some other album, but I haven't a > clue now what > it was :/ > I've got a feeling he is also on some recordings by The Goodies! William From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Thu Apr 13 11:43:22 2000 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff & Pam Wheaton) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 09:43:22 -0600 Subject: Dots Message-ID: very interesting. I've 3 or 4 of their CD's Edward Ka-Spell's solo work "Tanith & the Lion Tree" is pretty weird!! They're neat to listen to!! Pam "Hall, Russell J" wrote: > I have seen this band name mentioned here before - what are they like? > > I may try to see them in Cambridge, MA > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: K Henderson [SMTP:henderson.120 at OSU.EDU] > > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 8:48 AM > > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > > Subject: OFF: Dots > > > > Legendary Pink Dots No. American tour 2000: > > > > 5/24 - Toronto, ON Lee's Palace > > 5/25 - London, ON Call the Office > > 5/26 - Montreal, PQ Cabaret Music Hall > > 5/27 - Cambridge, MA Middle East Downstairs > > 5/28 - Winooski, VT Higher Ground > > 5/31 - Rochester, NY TO BE CONFIRMED > > 6/01 - New York, NY Wetlands Preserve > > 6/02 - Washington, DC Black Cat > > 6/03 - Philadelphia, PA Upstage > > 6/04 - Richmond, VA Twisters > > 6/06 - Carborro, NC Cat's Cradle > > 6/07 - Charlotte, NC Tremont Music Hall > > 6/08 - Atlanta, GA Cotton Club > > 6/09 - Jacksonville, FL Jack Rabbits > > 6/10 - Orlando, FL Sapphire Supper Club > > 6/11 - St. Petersburg, FL The State Theatre > > 6/12 - New Orleans, LA Howlin' Wolf > > 6/14 - Cincinnati, OH Bogart's > > 6/15 - Cleveland, OH Peabody's Down Under > > 6/16 - Columbus, OH Little Brother's > > 6/17 - Pittsburgh, PA TO BE CONFIRMED > > 6/18 - Pontiac, MI 7th House > > 6/20 - Milwaukee, WI Rave Bar > > 6/21 - Minneapolis, MN First Avenue > > 6/22 - Chicago, IL Double Door > > 6/23 - St. Louis, MO Side Door > > 6/24 - Lawrence, KS The Bottleneck > > 6/26 - Austin, TX Stubb's Bar-B-Q > > 6/27 - Houston, TX Instant Karma > > 6/28 - Dallas, TX TO BE CONFIRMED > > 6/30 - Denver, CO Bluebird Theatre > > 7/01 - Denver, CO Bluebird Theatre > > 7/03 - Salt Lake City, UT DV8 > > 7/05 - Los Angeles, CA Roxy Theatre > > 7/06 - Santra Ana, CA TO BE CONFIRMED > > 7/07 - San Francisco, CA TO BE CONFIRMED > > 7/08 - Portland, OR TO BE CONFIRMED > > 7/09 - Seattle, WA TO BE CONFIRMED > > 7/10 - Vancouver, BC TO BE CONFIRMED > > 7/11 - San Juan Island TO BE CONFIRMED -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace >I have seen this band name mentioned here before - what are they like? > >I may try to see them in Cambridge, MA An odd mix of dreary poetic ramblings and then some very exciting flashes of electronic wizardry and very intense jams. 'The Silverman' has banks of oscillators and such devices that require copious amounts of knob-twiddling during the performance. The sax player, Neils von Hoornblower (or something like that) is really cool...sometimes plays two saxes (alto and bari?) at once. The singer Ka-Spel is a nut...he has a really nasally whiny voice (sim. to Syd Barrett) that I really don't like at all. His lyrics are really more of the ranting variety...not sure what he going on about all the time. Overall, I would say that they're not an exceptionally talented group of musicians. But then we've already had that discussion. :) They seem to be popular with the goth crowd (wear black!), and they do have a similar flavor I guess. Their albums and their live performances both are hit-and-miss affairs. But it's worth it for the thirty minutes or so at the end where they put on the full electronic assault. "The Saucers are Coming" and "The Grain Kings." Great stuff. 'The Maria Dimension' is the album to look for first, I imagine. Grakkl (FAA) From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Thu Apr 13 12:19:50 2000 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 17:19:50 +0100 Subject: OFF: Dots In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:37:30 EDT." <200004131539.LAA24094@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: > The singer Ka-Spel is a nut...he has a really nasally whiny voice (sim. to > Syd Barrett) that I really don't like at all. His lyrics are really more of > the ranting variety...not sure what he going on about all the time. Agreed about the whiny voice. I have a Tear Garden album (ka Spel & cevin key from Skinny Puppy) which is fine except for any part involving vocals! Tim ObFind: Trust Obey, _The Crow_ Original Score From vincentr at COGNOS.COM Thu Apr 13 12:31:22 2000 From: vincentr at COGNOS.COM (Rob Vincent) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 12:31:22 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dots In-Reply-To: <200004131620.RAA26894@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, bart wrote: > > The singer Ka-Spel is a nut...he has a really nasally whiny voice (sim. to > > Syd Barrett) that I really don't like at all. His lyrics are really more of > > the ranting variety...not sure what he going on about all the time. > > Agreed about the whiny voice. I have a Tear Garden album (ka Spel & cevin key > from Skinny Puppy) which is fine except for any part involving vocals! "You ... and me ... and wainbows!" Rob THV Elijah Snow : It's a strange world Jakita Wagner : Let's keep it that way Planetary #1 From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Apr 13 13:06:50 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 13:06:50 -0400 Subject: Dots In-Reply-To: <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD03F0A2AF@emss05m03.sanders.lmco.com>; from russell.j.hall@LMCO.COM on Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 10:38:39AM -0400 Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 10:38:39AM -0400, Hall, Russell J wrote: > I have seen this band name [Pink Dots] mentioned here before - what are they like? Kind of Hawkwind meets the (infamous) Cure? The guy next to me at work is a rabid Pink Dots kollector. A lot of what he plays doesn't really do it for me -- and then I realize I've been really getting into the amazing space-rock that's been emanating from his desk -- and then the song after that is pretty lame. I'm pretty sure I'll check them out. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of ridicule. he was NOT a loser. thank you, Mr. Schulz. - Robert C. Mayo From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Apr 13 15:48:16 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 15:48:16 EDT Subject: Fwd: HW: Guest spots and Sessions//says doc synth Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: DWa2898572 at aol.com Subject: Re: HW: Guest spots and Sessions Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 15:10:58 EDT Size: 747 URL: From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Apr 13 15:05:01 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 15:05:01 -0400 Subject: OFF: Quarkstock 2000 Message-ID: Hi there... I hope you're all making your travel plans to come see the 'indoor' version (in a way) of the Strange Daze festy's. Memorial Day weekend, May 27-28. Right here in bucolic Ohio. Quarkstock will be a nice intimate event (no bigger club would take the chance!), with a max. of 175 space rockers cozying up to each other. I hope some of you will try to make the trip here to Columbus. Perhaps you think it would be redundant to come to both. I hope not. Dark Aether Project and French TV are the type of band that prolly wouldn't play at SD's, and they're fine bands, just as is the normal fare we're all familiar with. Plus, we will have Thom here and Jim's lightshow of course, so you won't be missing that. And some better vending I think. New Sonic Architecture appears to be coming, and Matthew and Greg are the coolest sort of the bigger prog-psych-space dealers. Aether-Or from Indianapolis (Tombstone Valentine-related) are not yet confirmed, but they may bring their stuff as well. And of course, Jerry and I will be offering some things along with the performing bands' wares. I'll have my box of second-hand/closeout stuff for some cheap shopping. I think I've got over 100 or so discs saved up...those of you at previous SD's know what I scrounge up. So, if you're still waffling, I hope you try hard to make it work for you, such that this will continue to happen. Last year's Orion festival caved in, and that gets some people (like myself) down a bit. I would hope this would become an annual event, but it depends upon support. Paul and Jerry et al., have worked hard to get the local/regional media interested, but I'm afraid it's hard to get much response. Most folks that have purchased tix to date are out-of-towners. All the details are at: http://www.quarkspace.com Thanks for your attention... Grakkl (FAA)...*not* an official representative of Quarkstock. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Apr 13 17:36:15 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 22:36:15 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind/Amon Duul 2CD? In-Reply-To: <20000413082656.JPOP14975.mta02.mail.mel.aone.net.au@Default> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Tim Gadd wrote: > Sanity have an album in their catalogue, which only has these details: > > Artist: Hawkwind/Amon Duul > Title: Gold collection > Australian pressing 2 CD > > Does anyone know what's actually on this? At a guess, that's the Hawkwind/Amon Duul (UK)/Van Der Graaf Generator set that came out a little while ago - s'got _Ridicule_ (or disc 2 of Space Ritual to the layman :-), _Die Losung_ and some VDG whose identity I do not know on it - but if so it must be a local pressing, as this one was far too cheap over here to have been an import. Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Apr 14 02:58:56 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 02:58:56 EDT Subject: OFF: Dots Message-ID: In a message dated 4/13/00 9:31:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time, vincentr at COGNOS.COM writes: > "You ... and me ... and wainbows!" > > Rob THV I like the lyrics to the song on the Space Daze comp (and the song as a whole is really cool and sorta Gongish, but I still haven't explored 'em much): what's it called again? "Maybe...in the next life...we'll be dolphins!!" A bit corney maybe, but oh well... Chuck From SHLL at NOVO.DK Fri Apr 14 05:21:06 2000 From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 11:21:06 +0200 Subject: OFF: On Trial/Dots Message-ID: Here are the On Trial Europe Tour Dates and also the new web page with updates on the new double live record. As for the Dots...I saw them here in Denmark and they played a first set of weird gothic stuff with just the singer and synth guy and then a full blow far out space rock set that had elements of GONG for sure. Excellent stuff. CONCERTS! 'Full Mental Jacket' - April in Europe This could turn out to be a nonstop burn-it-if-ya-got-it kamikaze attack, as someone spiked our drinks with a dose of American Unlimited Energy while we were in Texas. The hardest part will be how to survive the days off - IF ANYONE AROUND AMERSFOORT/GENT/WHEREEVER HAVE AN OPEN VENUE ON THE 24th/26th, GET IN TOUCH!! ... Bring money, kids, cos we'll bring vinyl and the 'Exploding Planets' On Trial t-shirt. I have to tell you that the double live lp did not come in time, damn................ The updated schedule goes like this (and a grand FUCK YOU to Windsor in A'dam for cancelling us): Kassel, A.R.M. - Tue 18 Frankfurt, Elfer - Wed 19 Hannover, Bei Chez Heinz - Thu 20 (w/ Payola-DE) Vlaardingen, Villa Musica - Fri 21 Amersfoort, De Kelder - Sat 22 Den Helder, ? - Sun 23 Gent, Frontline - Tue 25 Krefeld? - Wed 26 (very tentative) K?ln, Underground - Thu 27 (w/ Payola) Bern, Reitschule - Fri 28 Schaffhausen, Tap Tab - Sat 29 Geneve, K.A.B. a l'usine - Sun 30 http://www.ontrial.suite.dk/ scott From micci at SCI.FI Fri Apr 14 12:25:49 2000 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 19:25:49 +0300 Subject: off:5.15 & Nik Message-ID: Hi! Tonight Finnish national TV proudly present 5.15 with Nik Turner gig! btw. I don?t have second video, so I can?t make copy. Sorry! Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Fri Apr 14 13:11:54 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:11:54 EDT Subject: BOC: live in ny/'72 uh...what IS this? Message-ID: just picked up the BOC live in ny/'72...it's a strange thing... can anyone fill me in on some of the details of this thing? there are no songwriting/publishing credits; no copyright info..all of this would lead me to beleive it's a boot, but there's a label (munster records, madrid) name, address, phine #, and e-mail listed along with 'lisenced from skydog records, france'. and there's a upc code! the quality of the sound and apparent inner-groove distortion inherent in the sound indicates this was taken from the original 12". i'm assuming that this is what americans would deem a boot, but maybe in spain and france this type of thing is legal somehow? the lyrics to transmaniacon mc are printed in their entirety without any legal info. and about the recording itself: i know this is the promo-only live e.p. from '72, but there must be a story behind this. the audience noise is obviously fake; panned up at the end of each 'side' . where was it recorded? was the show longer than this? if so, do tapes of the entire show (original-or-boot) survive? cool pics... thanks for any info rmayo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Apr 14 13:33:59 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:33:59 EDT Subject: BOC: live in ny/'72 uh...what IS this? In-Reply-To: <7d.386bdba.2628ab5a@aol.com> Message-ID: On 14 Apr 00, at 13:11, Robert C. Mayo wrote: > just picked up the BOC live in ny/'72...it's a strange thing... > > can anyone fill me in on some of the details of this thing? Is this the one that yielded the 2 live tunes on WotT? And also has an early version of Buck's Boogie? If so, I think that some of it was recorded at a small venue in Rochester NY... there are > no songwriting/publishing credits; no copyright info..all of this > would lead me to beleive it's a boot, but there's a label (munster > records, madrid) name, address, phine #, and e-mail listed along with > 'lisenced from skydog records, france'. and there's a upc code! the > quality of the sound and apparent inner-groove distortion inherent in > the sound indicates this was taken from the original 12". i'm assuming > that this is what americans would deem a boot, If it is the material I'm referring to, then it was an official recording that was never released. In other words, Columbia recorded it for promotional purposes, for, say circulating among DJs, etc. I know John the FAQman is well acquainted with this one... but maybe in spain and > france this type of thing is legal somehow? European laws are different, esp. in Italy, hence the inordinate number of 'live' discs with Italian imprints. But apparently, the loopholes have been closed, so I'm told that these should start to dry up... theo From tclark at PETRONET.NET Fri Apr 14 14:21:04 2000 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:21:04 -0500 Subject: MP3 Files Message-ID: Just downloaded Napster from napster.com, did a search on Hawkind, and found several downloadable songs. Spirit of the Age, and several others. Napster is a search tool for MP3 files. Though the files are downloadable for free, it could raise some eyebrows as to copyright issues. From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Fri Apr 14 15:00:10 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 15:00:10 -0400 Subject: BOC: live in ny/'72 uh...what IS this? Message-ID: > > Is this the one that yielded the 2 live tunes on WotT? And also has > an early version of Buck's Boogie? If so, I think that some of it was > recorded at a small venue in Rochester NY... Nugget's Pizza parlor if memory serves me correctly. The version of Workshops is dy-no-mite. Good organwork by Lanier and a far tighter arrangment than on the 1st LP. Skydog is a shifty label in general. I think almost all their catalog is in some way illegit. They did the MC5 _Thunder Express_ Cd of a tv perormance by the 5 (sans bassist Michael Davis) w/ what sounded like direct-from- worn-vinyl copying of Borderline/Looking at You 45 and I can only give you everything. Though the last song has a different ending than on Breakout 66 recently released. The Breakout version fades the end out, while Skydog's has a proper loud chord ending. I'm very happy copying thunder express for others since its probably not giving any funds to Kramer et.al. Has a killer rendition of the Stones' "Empty Hearts" on it, and particularly potent Drummin' throughout. Aesthetic theory incarnate (with caffeine vein-filler) Jason > > there are > > no songwriting/publishing credits; no copyright info..all of this > > would lead me to beleive it's a boot, but there's a label (munster > > records, madrid) name, address, phine #, and e-mail listed along with > > 'lisenced from skydog records, france'. and there's a upc code! the > > quality of the sound and apparent inner-groove distortion inherent in > > the sound indicates this was taken from the original 12". i'm assuming > > that this is what americans would deem a boot, > > If it is the material I'm referring to, then it was an official recording > that was never released. In other words, Columbia recorded it for > promotional purposes, for, say circulating among DJs, etc. I know > John the FAQman is well acquainted with this one... > > > but maybe in spain and > > france this type of thing is legal somehow? > > European laws are different, esp. in Italy, hence the inordinate > number of 'live' discs with Italian imprints. But apparently, the > loopholes have been closed, so I'm told that these should start to dry > up... > > theo > > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Apr 14 14:03:23 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:03:23 -0400 Subject: OFF: Stoner Rock (fwd) Message-ID: Hi...thought this might interest some here... Grakkl (FAA) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ When Welcome to MeteorCity came out, I tried to get a distributor called Bayside to buy it. It featured the first released songs of a lot of bands no had ever heard of before: Goatsnake, The Atomic Bitchwax-- ?The Atomic Bitchwax?? the executive on the phone demanded of me. ?Yeah. Have you ever heard of a band called Monster Magnet? The gui--? ?The Atomic Bitchwax? No one will ever buy a band called The Atomic Bitchwax! Who would say that name in a record store? Are you serious?? ?Yeah, it?s a new genre called sludge rock, stoner rock--? ?What is it like?? ?It?s heavy, downtuned--? ?Like heavy metal?? ?It has the same influences. Black Sabbath, for example--? ?Heavy metal?s dead. No one will want that. What?s your label called again?? That distributor is now one of the two official distributors of Man?s Ruin. Yes, my friends, they mocked us, they reviled us, and now suddenly everybody wants to get involved. It?s a hard transition to make. We used to belong to an obscure musical cult, and now bands we like get radio airplay. How does MeteorCity respond? We?re doing what we?ve always done. We?re ignoring the trends, refusing to go back over the ground we?ve already covered, and searching the world, as always, for the coolest new music (cosmic/sludge/groove/doom) no one?s listening to, getting ready to unleash it on an unsuspecting but already whiplashed world. And damn, do we have some cool things in store for you this year. It will be like listening to Welcome to MeteorCity all over again. Most notably, we?ve finally done something worthy of our reputation, which takes a huge load off our shoulders. Yes, we?ve saved the worldor obliterated it, depending on your philosophical perspective. We?ve released the first album from Solace. Thundering riffs, haunting melodies, clobbering jams and stunning lyrics. The Web?s premier heavy radio station has added it to rotation--go to HardRadio and check out the Hard Music page (http://www.hardradio.com/hr3lead.html). And Mjuice.com has just put up an interview with Tommy Southard, Solace?s guitarist, along with lots of MP3?s (http://www.mjuice.com/mjuice/showcase?id=solace). We?re getting excited phone calls and email messages from people all over the world about this album. But, what?s most thrilling to us is that Further (their CD) contains no cute pop tunesthese are raging songs lasting an average of 7 minutes each, and somehow they?re catching on anyway. Solace has done absolutely nothing to change themselves to appeal to the world: the world is changing to reach out to them. Hell yeah. A lot of people, needless to say, are upset about the delay our albums are experiencing getting released in the rest of the world. MeteorCity customers get them first anyway, so no problems there if you?re getting this message, you?re probably getting our music before its official release date anyway, so you don?t care. But, just so there are no hard feelings, we?re giving those of you outside of North America exactly what you deserve: both Solace and Lowrider are going to be getting killer, amazing, double gatefold vinyl releases in Europe and the rest of the world outside of North America. (Select stores in North America will be carrying some on import.) And, we know we?re really, really late on getting you Spirit Caravan?s Dreamwheel EP--so to make you feel better about that, we?re making a Dreamwheel 10? to complement the CD. Right alongside Solace in terms of quality (and song length) is Eternal Elysium. We used one of their songs for the upcoming I Am Vengeance movie soundtrack, and we were literally overwhelmed. If you want to know why we keep on working at MeteorCity instead of moving on to higher paying jobs, the possibility of being involved with something like Spiritualized D is the answer. This Japanese band offers sludge-filled riffs; massively plodding doom rhythms; slicing, soulful, raging vocals; psychedelic, jazz-filled leads; sweeping jams and driving grooves: every song is epic and raw, each note unforced and shuddering with power. In addition to our long-publicized 2000 releases (The Quill, Eternal Elysium, Solace, Slave to the Power, and the forthcoming Lowrider: Ode to Io and I Am Vengeance CDs), we?re in the process of signing two awesome new bands that we are certain will have a huge impact on the scene. We hope to have an album out from Abdullah by the end of the year. Stoner Rock Rules! (through reviewer Mike Knecht of Warhorse) writes, ?Without hesitation or doubt I can say that Abdullah are one of the best bands I?ve heard in a while. You really have to hear this thing to really appreciate what I?m saying... no question Jeff and Alan are producing some of the most interesting, honest and well written doom inspired heavy rock around.? We?re very, very proud to be able associated with these guys, and we?re also amazed that we?ve been able to keep finding so much great music. Abdullah?s Snake Lore demo, which has gotten rave reviews at a host of sites, will be released in a limited edition on the Rage of Achilles label. We encourage you to check it out once it reaches our All That?s Heavy section, if you haven?t already obtained a copy through the demo-trading rounds. Speaking of demos, we?re a small label, and even though there are a lot of other great sludge/cosmic rock labels out there, there?s just no way all of us combined can release all of the good music in this scene. Added to this there?s the fact that Jadd and I decided recently that we?re no longer going to release any band we don?t both absolutely love. One of us loving the band, or both of us liking it a lot, is no longer going to be good enough for us. (Among other reasons, we simply can?t promote every band we?d have to release otherwise.) That means that we?ve been unable to release some music which really deserves to be heard. That led us to think about how unfair it is that record labels, including us, get to decide who gets heard and who doesn?t. So we?ve started something which we hope will get even more good and hard-to-find music heard. We?ve started an Demo Marketplace, where listeners can find out about tons of unreleased new bands and get demos from them at the same time the record label execs do. Go to our website and look for it in our Message Boards section. There?s already a whole lot of music there. Another new feature of our site is the MeteorCity Affiliate Program. (The Meteorite Program? We?re still considering names.) Everyone links to us anyway, so now we can thank you by paying for the link! You can promote the world?s coolest music and get paid for it. We?ve tried it before, but we?re using better technology now, with a real-time affiliate tracking program that you can look at whenever you want to on our website to find out whether anyone?s followed your link recently and how much money you?re making. This system is actually working right now, we?re just making sure it works without flaws, and then next week we?ll unveil it on our website. For anyone who hasn?t been coming to our website recently, we?ve also added a few other cool features. One is our customer reviews. Obviously, everyone has different taste, and different ways of describing music. So now, you can tell everyone what you think of the new full-length albums we sell, and find out what other fans think. We add new music constantly, and most of it is unavailable almost everywhere else, so this will help you to decide which you?ll like (or dislike) the most. We also now have two different music trading pages. One is very sophisticated and lets you search by band or trader; the other lets you just scroll down an alphabetical list of music traders and red their descriptions of what they want and have to trade with you. In All That?s Heavy news, we?re also selling a lot of Atomic Bitchwax vinyl. We have new purple vinyl 12?s of their album (one, mixed in randomly with our stock, is signed by the band), and we?re giving away a signed Atomic Bitchwax to poster to each person who buys one of the black vinyl 12?s. And don?t think that?s the last you?ll hear about this band from us . One last note: for those of you who are overwhelmed by all of our new stock, it?s because we?re finally adding all of the fundamental sludge/cosmic releases to our catalog. Partly, this is because we were getting embarrassed about always having to explain why we didn?t carry the main Monster Magnet and Kyuss albums. The answer was that our fans already had every Kyuss album; they counted on us to sell them Sons of Kyuss and the One Inch Man single. They already had every Monster Magnet album; they came to us for one of the Cage Around the Sun singles. But there?s a better reason for us to add the other main albums. A lot of people are coming to MeteorCity who have just heard someone mention ?stoner rock? in a record store but have never even heard 25 .Tab, and we?re realizing that the days when all of our customers came from Jay?s Kyuss Trade Page are dwindling fast. So, just above the Red Sun compilation (our second shipment just got in) and new sHEAVY: Celestial Hi-Fi import (our first shipment just sold out), we have a list of sludge/cosmic rock classics we?ve just added. Oh yeah, we have a print catalog now, too, since some of our customers simply refuse to go online. But you can get it too. We?ll start working on the third issue soon. It?s called Smoke Signals, and the last issue had an interview of the Blood Farmers by Drew (they?ll be on the I Am Vengeance soundtrack) and the second installment of Neddal Ayad?s description of playing this kind of music. Singles Club members, Daredevil Magazine Vol. II is on its way to you now, a 7" featuring Rollerball, Thumlock, Cockburn and Ridge. At the bottom of our front page, there's a link to The Hunger Site. All you have to do is visit it, and hungry people get fed. It's paid for through advertising revenue. A lot of people check our site every day to find out what new music has been released, and following that link when you visit us could give you some good karma along with good music. Thanks again for your continued support of MeteorCity. As always, we look forward to your comments, suggestions, questions and advice. And if you have any complaints, send them to Jadd. His email address is . aaron MeteorCity http://www.meteorcity.com P.O. Box 40322 aaron at meteorcity.com Albuquerque NM 87196 011 (505)254-4872 USA Since 1997. The MeteorCity.com Store / The MeteorCity Record Label / The MeteorCity Single of the Month Club. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Apr 14 17:35:56 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:35:56 EDT Subject: MP3 Files Message-ID: In a message dated 4/14/00 2:20:32 PM, tclark at PETRONET.NET writes: << Napster is a search tool for MP3 >> ===== if anyone cares, the 1st uk das ludicroix tape is there [two _very large_ mp3's] and the 3:28 'kimota' is there too. "<>" From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Apr 14 18:53:10 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 15:53:10 -0700 Subject: BOC: live in ny/'72 uh...what IS this? Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Apr 2000 15:00:10 -0400, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: >Skydog is a shifty label in general. I think almost all their catalog is in some >way illegit. Yeah, Skydog is (was?) one weird (French-based) label that deals in stuff of varying degrees of legitimacy (sort of like Eva, another French label which may be related). Their first release was the classic Stooges live album, 'Metallic K.O.' (their last show, with the audience full of angry bikers who had threatened to kill Iggy the night before ... great audience-baiting by the Igster). As I understand it, the album was originally released as a bootleg, but was later authorized by the band (or at least the Ashetons?), and later reissued as a longer double-LP set. One of their most classic semi-legit releases would be 'The Gold Star Tapes' by the Flamin' Groovies (one of my alltime favorite Bay Area bands). The band went to record their fourth album under their Sire Records contract at Gold Star (their previous 3 albums had been recorded at Rockfield studios - recognize that name, Hawkwind fans?) in L.A., where Phil Spector had recorded his famed "wall-of-sound" hits (the Groovies' record includes a great cover of "River Deep Mountain High") and is now a parking lot :^(. Since this was around 1979, in the middle of the post-disco, pre-CD recording industry slump, the band got dropped in the middle of recording the album, and the label refused to pay the bills owed the studio. The band wound up with two completed songs, and three more in rough mix state on a tape that allegedly contained some sort of "intentional noise" that would prevent the songs from sounding good enough to be commercially-releasable. So the record Skydog put out was not truly a "bootleg" (since the band approved it and was paid for it), but was not truly "legit" either, since the studio had never been paid for the recordings, and three of the songs are a bit rough (but hardly THAT bad). Skydog had also released some Flamin' Groovies singles/EPs in the early 70s, between their contracts with UA (c.72) and Sire (c.76). Speaking of the Eva label and upstate New York stuff, are any oldsters (sorry!) on the list from that area familiar with a band called Morgen (or the leader, Doug Morgen)? They had one album on Probe (or maybe Dunhill) in (I think) 1968 that features some blisteringly-heavy guitar work. I'd love to know if anyone actually saw them (or remembered them from then at all!). >They did the MC5 _Thunder Express_ Cd of a tv perormance >by the 5 (sans bassist Michael Davis) w/ what sounded like direct-from- >worn-vinyl copying of Borderline/Looking at You 45 and I can only give you >everything. Though the last song has a different ending than on >Breakout 66 recently released. The Breakout version fades the end out, while >Skydog's has a proper loud chord ending. That single was also reissued on the 'Babes In Arms' cassette (and later CD) on ROIR. I don't know whether the end fades or not, though ... And BTW, Munster records in Spain *is* (essentially, AFAIK) a legit label that mostly releases current garage/punk type stuff, often live albums of Spanish radio broadcasts by US/UK bands. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Fri Apr 14 20:01:57 2000 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:01:57 EDT Subject: BOC: live in ny/'72 uh...what IS this? Message-ID: In a message dated 04/14/2000 12:14:49 PM Central Daylight Time, RMayo19761 at AOL.COM writes: << where was it recorded? was the show longer than this? if so, do tapes of the entire show (original-or-boot) survive? >> Nugget Pizza Parlor, Rochester, NY - 04/03/72 It was a radio broadcast on a Rochester station. Total show length was 8 songs that totaled around 40 minutes. Tapes of the total show do survive... R. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Apr 14 21:02:34 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 21:02:34 -0400 Subject: OFF: Science Proves: Microsoft 14x Bigger Than Elvis!!! Message-ID: http://www.robotwisdom.com/finder/elvis.html Hawkwind is 2.58% as big as Elvis. Now you know. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of ridicule. he was NOT a loser. thank you, Mr. Schulz. - Robert C. Mayo From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Apr 15 07:18:10 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 07:18:10 EDT Subject: BOC: live in ny/'72 uh...what IS this? Message-ID: In a message dated 4/14/00 7:00:11 PM, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: << Their first release was the classic Stooges live album, 'Metallic K.O.' (their last show, with the audience full of angry bikers who had threatened to kill Iggy the night before ... great audience-baiting by the Igster). >> ===== hi doug, despite numerous repetitions that "metallic K.O." was the last stooges show, it wasnt. they persisted for a few more months/gigs... and while it may have been legally dicey, it was reviewed in CREEM right away, and i bought my copy at a record store in a mall, as if it was any other new release, circa sept 77. and the 2lp version of "K.O." is from 2 different shows... == see ya "<>" From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sat Apr 15 12:40:54 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 12:40:54 -0400 Subject: New SLOTERDIJK Merchandising Subsite Message-ID: http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJK0 http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sat Apr 15 12:58:34 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 12:58:34 -0400 Subject: SLOTERDIJK Presents The Druid's Ball, Taxday Spacerock Implosion Sat April 15th!!! Message-ID: http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS -------------- next part -------------- http://www.njrocks.com/gigs/messages/3385.html From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Sat Apr 15 14:01:12 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:01:12 -0400 Subject: BOC/BRAIN: rock is roll? excerpts from a new book Message-ID: friggin' 300 plus brake job (can that be street slang now) waylaid me in Albany for the tBS show. (say your own fave string-o'-cussing here and add the word "Waffle iron") BUT Found the Melzter compendium just published, in which there's a review of OYFoOYK, candid(?obscene/funny) comments about Eric Bloom, Patti Smith, the Minutemen, a paintgun volley of scorn for Pearlman an' B.O.Cult Publishing , mentions of Allan Lanier and the motherf*cker of a drummer from upstate NY (esp. referring to the footnote in Aesthetics of Rock about draft evasion), Don Roeser, other mentions of BOC, SWU, "Hansel and Gretel" reference, and the official lyrics to "electrocute your cock" by Vom. Even John McLaughlin is interviewed. Now that's a book. Beats hot coffee and better for your kidney. Now i have to write about public policy. God bless the 'merican dream. Turn it to 11 on your stereo, Jason From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Apr 15 17:01:30 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 17:01:30 -0400 Subject: OFF: Napster in the news Message-ID: Hi Folks...FYI Rockers accuse Napster, schools of copyright infringement, racketeering April 14, 2000 Web posted at: 12:17 PM EDT (1617 GMT) SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Heavy metal rock band Metallica has accused three universities and the makers of a popular Internet music sharing software of copyright infringement and racketeering. The federal lawsuit contends San Mateo, Calif.-based Napster Inc., the University of Southern California, Yale University and Indiana University encouraged users of Napster software to trade copyrighted material without the band's permission. "We take our craft -- whether it be the music, the lyrics, or the photos and artwork very seriously, as do most artists," Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich said in a statement on the Elektra Records Web site. "It is therefore sickening to know that our art is being traded like a commodity rather than the art that it is." The Napster software program allows Internet users to search for and download music directly from each others' computer hard drives. The music is stored in a digital format known as MP3. Metallica alleges the universities allowed free trade of copyrighted songs to flourish by failing to block access to the Napster sharing program, thereby violating the federal Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act. The San Francisco-based band filed the lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles on Thursday. "We regret that the band's management saw fit to issue a press release -- and to file a lawsuit -- without even attempting to contact Napster," said Eileen Richardson, the company's chief executive officer. "But if these people insist on turning it over to lawyers, we'll defend the case on that turf." Napster also has been sued by the Recording Industry Association of America in federal court in San Francisco. The trade group, which represents major recording labels, alleged copyright infringement by Napster and is seeking $100,000 for each song traded using Napster software. Calls to Yale and USC were not immediately returned. A spokesman for Indiana University said lawyers for the university had not seen the lawsuit. At least seven universities* are known to have blocked access to Napster because its use by students downloading audio files have slowed their computer networks to a crawl. Grakkl (FAA) (*Among them, Ohio State. Oh, well...never went there anyway.) Copyright 2000 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. (Uh oh...I might be sued by the AP!) From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Apr 16 01:24:33 2000 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:24:33 PDT Subject: DOTS Message-ID: Greetings Hawkfans, I see that Pink Dots are coming to Jacksonville. Does anyone know their taping policy? Are they taping friendly? Also, is anyone here in the states going to carry the Dark Sun - Ice Ritual? If not, anybody want to go in on an order w/ me? Please E off list ") np: Eloy - Silent Cries.... Darrin ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Apr 16 01:32:43 2000 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 22:32:43 PDT Subject: NAPSTER Message-ID: If anyone plans on utizing NAPSTER, better do it fast. Check this out: www.livedaily.com/archive/2000/2k04/wk2/MetallicaSuesNapster,Univ.html And Metallica used to be one of my favorite bands..... Hard to believe these days. Darrin ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Apr 16 01:46:14 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 05:46:14 +0000 Subject: NAPSTER Message-ID: Darrin McKeehen wrote: > If anyone plans on utizing NAPSTER, better do it fast. > > Check this out: > > www.livedaily.com/archive/2000/2k04/wk2/MetallicaSuesNapster,Univ.html > > And Metallica used to be one of my favorite bands..... Hey, before you slam Metallica too hard, remember that they *DO* allow taping at shows, which is a lot more enlightened than a lot of bands I could name. > Hard to believe these days. Yes, isn't it gobsmacking that someone should take umbrage at theft of their work. The nerve of those guys! Cheers, Paul. -- e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Apr 16 03:10:59 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 03:10:59 EDT Subject: OFF: Napster in the news Message-ID: In a message dated 4/15/00 6:03:47 PM, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: << "We take our craft -- whether it be the music, the lyrics, or the photos and artwork very seriously, as do most artists," Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich said in a statement on the Elektra Records Web site. "It is therefore sickening to know that our art is being traded like a commodity rather than the art that it is." ===== god i _hate_ it when rock musicians belabor words like "art". so how many 'units' had metallica 'shifted' before the shocking realization that their "art is being treated like a commodity" by their huge corporate employers?. but, see, that's okay; under _those_ circumstances they're getting _paid_. ==== <> === all i knew was, the friend who made me the mp3s for daslud/dsra said "go here"...and told me he made his entire music collexion available via napster [which would have included the daslud material....and/but a variety of copyrighted material tambien. oops.] == if napster is ripping people off, they'll sink. bye. "<>" From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Apr 16 05:42:20 2000 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 02:42:20 PDT Subject: NAPSTER Message-ID: Thanx for posting that diddy Keith! Some people don't like it when people post the big thingy. They would rather have a link to choose, so I just provided that... for those who want a choose... Not slamming Metallica Robert, just don't like them anymore. Yes, it's cool that they are taping friendly! Wish that was the case back in February 1984 when I saw them for the first time w/ Armored Saint and WASP at the Royal Oak Music Theater in Detroit, MI They have changed and so have I. Hard to believe that the former President of the Motorhead fan club would make such statements and take such a stance. Guess we're the only ones still up, tonight! Hit the Lights Darrin ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Sun Apr 16 05:53:52 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 04:53:52 -0500 Subject: off NAPSTER Message-ID: > Hey, before you slam Metallica too hard, remember that they *DO* allow > taping at shows, which is a lot more enlightened than a lot of bands I > could name. No longer true I believe, last I read anyway. From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Sun Apr 16 07:08:20 2000 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:08:20 +0100 Subject: HW:inferior talent Message-ID: Sorry to write so long after the subject came up! Filip, have you got the David Bowie and Eric Clapton articles? Any chance of sending us copies? Thanks Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: Filip Vanhuyse To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 7:20 AM Subject: HW:inferior talent Hello all, I don't agree with some of you who tell that Hawkwind has inferior talent. I have a article with David Bowie where he is asked about the best artists he ever played with and he states:Andrew Belew and Simon House!!! And wasn't Alan Davey a hell of a bass-player? I also have a biography of Eric Clapton who states that he and Mr.Brock played together.I asked Dave about it and he said it's TRUE !! Best wishes filip hawknut -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Sun Apr 16 12:12:04 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:12:04 -0400 Subject: BOC: Meltzer's review of OYFoOYK Message-ID: FOr your plagarizing pleasure-- {italicized intro:) Let's see what background do you need on THIS? Bloom became the UNderbelly's singer, in the spring of 69, primarily 'cuz he had a van, all paid up, and his predecessor's own van had been repossessed; he also had a PA. His singing, however, didn't guarantee him permanence, and one night a year later, while he slept, the band auditioned me and Pearlman to replace him (neither of us panned out). I'd already sung with them, in a manner of speaking, running around yelling "PISS!" onstage at the Cafe a Go Go (fall '67), sticking my head inside the bass drum and unplugging patchcords while people soloed. More importantly, I served as their longtime nuse and author (till about'71) of the preponderance of their lyrics. This has to be my earliest BOC peice that Pearlman had no hand in. There'ed been probably five or six,, pseudonymous or not, where he stood in the room and virtually dictated my copy -- to insure I didn't kill the goose that might someday lay whatever. Sure I had an economic interest in their success, but I once had an artistic one too. (by 75 all I wanted was my money.) Pearlman was big on covering the band's tracks, insisting the world would end if even its former names were revealed. A classic rock paranoid, he changed 'em from Soft White UNderbelly to the Stalk-Forrest Group (the what??) when a West POint dropout, sone of one of Patton's generals, didn't so much salg as ignore them -- "the less said, the better" -- in a Voice review of their Fillmore East appearance with Jethro Tull and Jeff Beck. Having never done a rock review before, the guy didn't realize he need'nt mention every band, but Pearlman took it hard--"Our name is mud in this town." Oaxaca, my suggestion, was an interim name that didn't stick (they were also breifly the Santos Sisters). In 1970 I introduced Patti to Pearlman, who beyond wanting to manage her wanted her, and who brought her to the session where she met rhythm guitarist/keyboardist Allan Lanier, with whom she would soon shack up. "Carreer of Evil," her contribution to Secret Treaties. the third BOC album, was the first forcible fusion of rock and Rimbaud. On each of the early Columbia albs I had at least a lyric or two, but on the one after On Your Feet, the mega-mega Agensts of Fortune (containing their biggest hit "Don't Fear the Reaper"), they used NOTHING of mine; I'be never known for sure if that was their doing or Pearlman's. I did later get lucky with "burnin' for you" (their only other hit), but since I never got my full payoff the luck was only relative. THough my best known lyric, I wouldn't rank it with either "Teen Archer" (on Tyrrany and Mutation) or "Arthur Comics," one side of the Elektra single which consitutes their total vinyl output from before they went for the faux-nazi sturm und rang, all the heavy-handed lazer baloney. I'm the dummy, by the way responsible for the umlaut over the "O"... before Motorhead, before Motley Cure, before Queensryche. INotherwords, in addition to my many National League batting titles, I also (in all likelihood) introduced GRATUTITOUS USE OF THE UMLAUT to U.S. (possibly even Anglo-U.S.) rock and rll. Love me or leave me! But was David Geffen head of Elektra in 75? And what Dylan was that, PLanet Waves? Anyway this review didn't run in the hich circulation glossy that assigned it 'cause I fell down with the editor's girlfriend (while he was boogyin' her roommate in Ensenada--oh, life!) and he found out. So I gave it for free to some jerkwater sheet with a circulation of six. [Actual review coming when I clean my apartment. Ah the suspence] From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Apr 16 12:33:33 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:33:33 +0000 Subject: off NAPSTER Message-ID: Dan Witt wrote: > > > Hey, before you slam Metallica too hard, remember that they *DO* allow > > taping at shows, which is a lot more enlightened than a lot of bands I > > could name. > > No longer true I believe, last I read anyway. That's sad, if it's true. I was only going off the last time I saw them in Roanoke, and there was a separate taper's section with lots o' mic stands there. I hope it wasn't gross abuse of the taping privilege that led to its demise. Remember: trade what they give; buy what they sell. Cheers, Paul. -- e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Sun Apr 16 14:41:21 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 14:41:21 -0400 Subject: Thanks to all Message-ID: Thanks to all who made it to The Druid's Keep last night. It was a great time, very psychedelic, and very fun. Hope to see many of you throughout the summer....Next stop The Netherlands...back to the USSA for The Mandelbrot Sets!! (www.nebulatrip.com).. Possible acoustic engagement for the ringing in of Beltane now being explored...stay tuned.. Peace, Mike Setlist: The Druid's Keep 4/15/00 The Druid's Call>Space intro Integration Fred Goldman's Moustche Sexknowledy Zwarte Piet Technoanthropology Prebonics The Thunderbirds Alice (On Another Planet) Cryogenics Golden Void The band: Mike Burro: guitars, bass, synths, programming & vocals Jay Adcock: guitars, synths, mixing & vocals Robert McConnel: bass, guitar, & synth http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Mon Apr 17 01:04:29 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 07:04:29 +0200 Subject: HW:inferior talent Message-ID: ok Kris, give me a week or so to look it up.I've just relocated and chaos rules for the moment.Must say the Bowie article is in Dutch.(Can't remember if it's a translation from Rolling Stone, as they do sometimes in that magazine). greetings to you and dave filip hawknut ----- Original Message ----- From: XXX To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 1:08 PM Subject: Re: HW:inferior talent Sorry to write so long after the subject came up! Filip, have you got the David Bowie and Eric Clapton articles? Any chance of sending us copies? Thanks Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: Filip Vanhuyse To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 7:20 AM Subject: HW:inferior talent Hello all, I don't agree with some of you who tell that Hawkwind has inferior talent. I have a article with David Bowie where he is asked about the best artists he ever played with and he states:Andrew Belew and Simon House!!! And wasn't Alan Davey a hell of a bass-player? I also have a biography of Eric Clapton who states that he and Mr.Brock played together.I asked Dave about it and he said it's TRUE !! Best wishes filip hawknut -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Stuart NP: Black Crowes & Jimmy Page - Live At The Greek Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Apr 17 09:55:26 2000 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:55:26 +0100 Subject: HW:In your Area UK release Message-ID: The local HMV had several copies in today of a UK, Voiceprint, issue of In Your Area. Same front cover, different back. Did anyone know this was getting released over here? Also there was a copy of the EMI remaster of Doremi still on sale, was somebody after a copy of this recently? Nick From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Apr 17 10:12:39 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:12:39 EDT Subject: BOC: Live review in Classic Rock magazine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 17 Apr 00, at 10:25, Stuart Hamilton wrote: > There's a live review of the 17/2/00 show at The Rage, Vancouver with > a small piccie of Eric Bloom. They liked it. > Do you have a URL? theo From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Apr 17 10:50:50 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:50:50 +0100 Subject: BOC: Live review in Classic Rock magazine In-Reply-To: <200004171413.KAA11880@syr.edu> Message-ID: I don't think Classic Rock are that high-tech... -- Andy ObCD: Calexico - "Ballad of Cable Hogue" mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Ted Jackson jr. > Sent: 17 April 2000 15:13 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: BOC: Live review in Classic Rock magazine > > > On 17 Apr 00, at 10:25, Stuart Hamilton wrote: > > > There's a live review of the 17/2/00 show at The Rage, Vancouver with > > a small piccie of Eric Bloom. They liked it. > > > Do you have a URL? > > theo > From shmucking at YAHOO.COM Mon Apr 17 13:39:18 2000 From: shmucking at YAHOO.COM (Ian Rosen) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 10:39:18 -0700 Subject: HW:In your Area UK release Message-ID: I was looking for a copy of Doremi, but that's been resolved. Thanks for getting back to me, though. Ian --- Nick Lee wrote: > The local HMV had several copies in today of a UK, > Voiceprint, issue of In > Your Area. Same front cover, different back. Did > anyone know this was > getting released over here? > Also there was a copy of the EMI remaster of Doremi > still on sale, was > somebody after a copy of this recently? > > Nick > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 17 14:19:48 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:19:48 -0700 Subject: HW:Third Ear Band:MacBeth Message-ID: On Mon, 17 Apr 2000 07:15:16 +0200, Filip Vanhuyse wrote: >Just bought a copy of theThird Ear Band:Macbeth. >Has Simon House on it. >Does anyone has a complete list of records of Simon with >the Third Ear Band?? That's the only one. Simon House isn't on their other two albums ('Alchemy' & 'Third Ear Band'). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Apr 17 18:02:04 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:02:04 -0400 Subject: BOC: Meltzer's review of OYFoOYK In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20000416121204.0068d834@mail1.wizvax.net>; from js3619@WIZVAX.NET on Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 12:12:04PM -0400 Message-ID: On Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 12:12:04PM -0400, Bolts of Ungodly Vision quoted (um, I think) Meltzer: > A classic rock paranoid, [Pearlman] > changed 'em from Soft White UNderbelly to the Stalk-Forrest Group (the > what??) when a West POint dropout, sone of one of Patton's generals, didn't > so much salg as ignore them -- "the less said, the better" -- in a Voice > review of their Fillmore East appearance with Jethro Tull and Jeff Beck. Amazing coincidence that this should happen at a concert where Tull was also playing! Here's how Tull got their name, as described by Ian Anderson in http://www.rockonline.com/liveinchat/tull121999.html: > Back in February, 1968, we had many different names which > usually changed every week, since we were so bad that we had to > pretend to be some new band in order to get re-booked in the > clubs where we aspired to find fame and fortune. Our agent, who > had studied History at college, came up with the name Jethro > Tull (an eighteenth century English agricultural pioneer who > invented the seed drill). That was the band name during the week > in which London's famous Marquee Club offered us the Thursday > night residency. So it stuck. Is it too late to change? I > thought so. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of ridicule. he was NOT a loser. thank you, Mr. Schulz. - Robert C. Mayo From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 17 20:14:38 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 17:14:38 -0700 Subject: HW: Sonic Boom interview Message-ID: Sonic Boom of Spectrum and E.A.R. (ex-Spacemen 3, and master of the two-chord song) mentions Hawkwind in this interview: http://www.pansiecola.demon.co.uk/sonic.html He also mentions the Speak-And-Spells that he was using on tour a couple years ago when I opened for him in L.A. with Primordial Undermind ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com "Everyone knows Silver Machine, which even for Hawkwind was meant to be some kind of joke that I guess backfired on them. But, you know, Orgone Accumulator, I would have been proud to have written that song, I think that's a cool song." -Sonic Boom From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Apr 17 23:21:13 2000 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:21:13 PDT Subject: HW -Releases Message-ID: HAWKWIND-FAMILY TREE New recording from long running space rock act, featuring solo tracks by the members of the current incarnation. HAWKWIND-LIVE NOTTINGHAM 2 CD set of two live shows with a total running time of over 3 hours. CD 2 features special guest and former band-member Simon House, playing old & new classics. Greetings Hawkfans! Just saw these 2 titles listed and I am not up to speed on what there are......... Reviews? Track lists? Label? Unbiased opinions? Who's got the best price? Andy G, let it rip! Thanx! (in advance") np: Anubian Lights -The Eternal Sky D-Rider (Darrin) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Apr 18 01:31:34 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:31:34 +1000 Subject: HW: Sonic Boom interview Message-ID: >"Everyone knows Silver Machine, which even for Hawkwind was meant to be >some kind of joke that I guess backfired on them. But, you know, Orgone >Accumulator, I would have been proud to have written that song, I think >that's a cool song." > -Sonic Boom Having a #3 single, which subsequently funded the space Ritual tour, which turned out to produce their highest selling album, is a curious definition of backfiring. -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Apr 18 01:01:01 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 01:01:01 -0400 Subject: HW: Sonic Boom interview Message-ID: Tim interpreted... >>"Everyone knows Silver Machine, which even for Hawkwind was meant to be >>some kind of joke that I guess backfired on them. But, you know, Orgone >>Accumulator, I would have been proud to have written that song, I think >>that's a cool song." >> -Sonic Boom > >Having a #3 single, which subsequently funded the space Ritual tour, which >turned out to produce their highest selling album, is a curious definition >of backfiring. No, I think 'backfiring' meant that they weren't serious about the song, and never expected it to be the 'anthem' that they became known for...and of course, highly successful. So it's 'backfiring' in a reverse sense. I'm sure I remember other similar tales of 'accidents' becoming fantastic successes, but it's late and my brain isn't functioning all that efficiently. The stuttering-BTO "Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" is all I can think of. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. I had a bit of a laugh at Orgone. I've said here before that it's hardly a 'song,' in that it's about as simplistic as music can get. But then of course, BtG playing it for 25 minutes straight at SD'99 was a particular favorite concert experience. P.P.S. I thought Jethro Tull was responsible for crop rotation. Perhaps he was, in addition to the seed thingy? ObCD-EP: gybe! - Slow Riot for Zero Kanada (fabulous! Just got it...miles better than the F#A#oo album IMHO.) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 18 05:46:02 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:46:02 +0100 Subject: OFF: Napster in the news In-Reply-To: DASLUD@AOL.COM's message of Sun, 16 Apr 2000 03:10:59 EDT Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: > god i _hate_ it when rock musicians belabor words like "art". > so how many 'units' had metallica 'shifted' before the shocking realization > that their "art is being treated like a commodity" by their huge corporate > employers?. > > but, see, that's okay; under _those_ circumstances they're getting _paid_. Is there some reason why rock musicians shouldn't be paid for their work, whatever its aretistic merits? FoFP From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Apr 18 05:55:39 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 05:55:39 EDT Subject: OFF: Napster in the news Message-ID: In a message dated 4/18/00 5:46:29 AM, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: << Is there some reason why rock musicians shouldn't be paid for their work, whatever its artistic merits? >> ====== that was not of which i wrote. i wasnt expecting such _posturing_ from a member of metallica. any guesses as to what they "lost" via napster? wanna count it in pennies? "<>" From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 18 06:26:34 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:26:34 +0100 Subject: OFF: Napster in the news In-Reply-To: DASLUD@AOL.COM's message of Tue, 18 Apr 2000 05:55:39 EDT Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: > In a message dated 4/18/00 5:46:29 AM, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > > << > Is there some reason why rock musicians shouldn't be paid for their > work, whatever its artistic merits? > >> > ====== > that was not of which i wrote. > i wasnt expecting such _posturing_ from a member of metallica. I guess I agree as far as "art" goes, but it's all down to personal taste anyway. > any guesses as to what they "lost" via napster? > wanna count it in pennies? Lose a few pennies to each of a billion people and pretty soon you're talking some real money. FoFP From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Apr 18 06:44:59 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 06:44:59 EDT Subject: OFF: Napster in the news Message-ID: In a message dated 4/18/00 6:27:19 AM, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: << Lose a few pennies to each of a billion people and pretty soon you're talking some real money. >> lololololol well yes, [sigh] but are there a billion personal computers? are there a billion metallica fans? that would be platinum x 1000, yes? yeah, okay, okay "<>" From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Apr 18 06:44:38 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:44:38 +0100 Subject: OFF: Copying / Napster Message-ID: I justify taping / copying in the following way. 1. Something like the tape swap on this list I have no problem with, as it acts as a sampler for other people - I've certainly gone out and bought stuff by acts I'd never heard before I got a track on those tapes. 2. Taping a whole album - I have no problem with if I can't get hold of a 'legit' copy. If I lend a copy of a rare album I've got to a friend who wants to copy it, fine, but I hope if he saw a copy in Tower Records a couple of weeks later he'd buy a copy. 3. Live recording - fine, if those recordings aren't commercially available. If I tape a gig, and some years later it gets an official release, I'd like to think I'd go out and buy it (if it was any good!). It's bootlegging / copying for profit / pirating that pisses me off. Cheers, Rich. ObMellowCD - Heart - Dreamboat Annie (Keeping my head down now!) ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2000 10:55 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Napster in the news > In a message dated 4/18/00 5:46:29 AM, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > > << > Is there some reason why rock musicians shouldn't be paid for their > work, whatever its artistic merits? > >> > ====== > that was not of which i wrote. > i wasnt expecting such _posturing_ from a member of metallica. > > any guesses as to what they "lost" via napster? > wanna count it in pennies? > > "<>" __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Tue Apr 18 06:55:22 2000 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:55:22 +0100 Subject: HW: Sonic Boom interview Message-ID: I think that the idea of "backfiring" was more the surprise of it's success than anything else - double negative sort of meaning - dunno????? -----Original Message----- From: Tim Gadd [mailto:lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM] Sent: 18 April 2000 06:32 To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: HW: Sonic Boom interview >"Everyone knows Silver Machine, which even for Hawkwind was meant to be >some kind of joke that I guess backfired on them. But, you know, Orgone >Accumulator, I would have been proud to have written that song, I think >that's a cool song." > -Sonic Boom Having a #3 single, which subsequently funded the space Ritual tour, which turned out to produce their highest selling album, is a curious definition of backfiring. -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Apr 18 07:43:02 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:43:02 +0100 Subject: OFF: Copying / Napster In-Reply-To: <037101bfa923$18891610$3d01a8c0@tpd.co.uk> Message-ID: I'm normally anti-taping, but I treated the tape swap here as a virtual "having some mates round and playing them some records." The idea was that you didn't keep the tape, after all. > ObMellowCD - Heart - Dreamboat Annie (Keeping my head down now!) Oh, they were fine when they were still folk-rock. It was when they went power-ballad that they sucked. :) -- Andy ObCD: still Calexico, and "Ballad of Cable Hogue" mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Tue Apr 18 06:55:50 2000 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:55:50 +0100 Subject: HW: Sonic Boom interview Message-ID: >P.P.S. I thought Jethro Tull was responsible for crop >rotation. Perhaps he >was, in addition to the seed thingy? I thought the process of crop-rotation started way back when, farmers used to allow fields to lay fallow for one year in three and plant different crops each year ?? Mark (Hasbeen) From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Tue Apr 18 09:28:08 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:28:08 +0100 Subject: BOC: Classic Rock Review Message-ID: As has already been mentioned, Classic Rock don't have a web site. I might get a chance to type it up this weekend. Stuart NP Man - Maximum Darkness Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 18 10:40:05 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:40:05 +0100 Subject: HW: Sonic Boom interview In-Reply-To: Mark Lee's message of Tue, 18 Apr 2000 11:55:50 +0100 Message-ID: Mark Lee writes: > >P.P.S. I thought Jethro Tull was responsible for crop > >rotation. Perhaps he > >was, in addition to the seed thingy? > > I thought the process of crop-rotation started way back when, farmers > used to allow fields to lay fallow for one year in three and plant different > crops each year ?? I think he's talking of the Tull habit of whirling a leek about one's head. Much safer than cabbage-hurling IMHO. > Mark (Hasbeen) FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 18 11:04:11 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:04:11 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Collection for sale! Message-ID: No, not mine. Thanks to Andy Gilham's tipoff I've been in touch with these guys. It's a longtime collector is letting his son sell up his collection. There's some pretty rare stuff in there too. He's looking for bids on the various items. Note that his email address does appear to be case sensitive. FoFP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Albums ====== Hawkwind Hawkwind Zoo Hawkwind Rock Legends Hawkwind Church of Hawkwind Hawkwind Zones Hawkwind Repeat Performance Hawkwind Live at The Bottom Line Hawkwind Live at the Watchfield and Stonehnge Festival 1976 Hawkwind In Search of Space Hawkwind Doremi Fasol Latido (2 copies) Hawkwind Space Ritual (Gatefold) Hawkwind Hall of the Mountain Grill Hawkwind Warrior on the Edge of Time Hawkwind Roadhawks (German gatefold) Hawkwind Roadhawks (Foldout) Hawkwind Masters of the Universe Hawkwind Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music Hawkwind Hurry on Sundown Hawkwind Hurry on Sundown (Gatefold sleeve) Hawkwind Quark, Strangeness and Charm Hawkwind Quark, Strangeness and Charm (U.S.A.) Hawkwind PXR 5 Hawkwind Live 79 Hawkwind The Rock File Hawkwind Levitation (Ordinary Vinyl) Hawkwind Levitation (Blue vinyl) Hawkwind Sonic Attack Hawkwind Choose Your Masques Hawkwind Friends and Relations Various Glastonbury Fayre Various Greasy Trucker's Party Hawkwind Sonic Assassins=20 Hawkwind Motorhead/Valium Ten Hawkwind 12" Psi Power (Double sided) Hawkwind Silver Machine 12" Hawkwind Silver Machine 12" Silver sleeve PXR5 Singles ======= Sonic Attack in cloth bag Silver Machine/Seven by Seven Silver Machine/Seven by Seven Doremi Sleeve Silver Machine/Silver Machine (Full version) Picture disc. Silver Machine/Silver Machine (Full version) Picture sleeve Silver Machine/Seven by Seven. Live at the Roundhouse Silver Machine/Seven by Seven UK original Silver Machine/Seven by Seven U.S.A. promo Silver Machine/Seven by Seven German Silver Machine/Seven by Seven/Lord of Light/Born to Go. Double single German Big Hit. Fold out sleeve. Silver Machine/Seven by Seven Dutch Import Silver Machine/Seven by Seven Italian Picture sleeve Silver Machine/Seven by Seven French Picture sleeve Silver Machine/Seven by Seven Picture disc Silver Machine/Seven by Seven Picture disc Silver Machine/Seven by Seven U.K. release Silver Machine/Seven by Seven Doremi sleeve. Ike&Tina Turner label. Silver Machine/Urban Guerilla German Shot Down in the Night/Urban Guerilla U.K. Urban Guerilla/Brainbox Pollution. U.K. release withdrawn due to Irish Troubles. Urban Guerilla/Brainbox Pollution German release Urban Guerilla/Brainbox Pollution Portuguese release. Picture sleeve Urban Guerilla/Brainbox Pollution Dutch. Doremi picture sleeve Urban Guerilla/Brainbox Pollution French. Doremi picture sleeve Urban Guerilla/Urban Guerilla Doremi picture sleeve Urban Guerilla. Acetate. Trident studios. Hurry on Sundown/Masters of the Universe/Silver Machine/ Orgone Accumulator. Double single, gatefold sleeve with 1973 U.S. tour Quark, Strangeness and Charm/Forge of Vulcan U.K. release Quark, Strangeness and Charm Acetate Kerb Crawler/Honky Dorky U.K. Dave Gilmour mix Who's Gonna Win the War?/Time of... Hawklords Picture sleeve Who's Gonna Win the War?/Time of... Hawklords Picture sleeve Who's Gonna Win the War?/Nuclear Toy. Bronze label. Levitation sleeve. Angels of Death/Trans-Dimensional Man Hurry on Sundown/Mirror of Illusion. Liberty label in original sleeve Lord of Light/Born to Go German Doremi sleeve Psychedelic Warlords/It's So Easy U.K. Motorhead/Valium Ten Insert with background to record and band line-up. Hall of the Mountain Grill E.P.: The Psychedelic Warlords/Hall of the Mountain Grill/D-Rider/Wind of Change. U.S.A. promo. Shot Down in the Night/Urban Guerilla. German picture sleeve. Back on the Streets/Dream of Isis. German pressing with tour dates Kings of Speed/Motorhead in Fritz the Cat sleeve. Kings of Speed/Kings of Speed Double sided. American mono/stereo 25 Years/(Only) The Dead Dreams of the Cold War Kid Hawklords Psi Power/Death Trap U.K. Misprint Psi Power/Death Trap Hawklords Last Chance E.P. : Dodgem Dude, Lord of the Hornets & Hurry on Sundown Ejection/Catch a Falling Starfighter. Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters. You'd Better Believe It/Paradox. German. Picture sleeve Dodgem Dude/Starcruiser. Michael Moorcock and the Deep Fix. Lord of the Hornets/The Greenfly and the Rose. Robert Calvert Nuclear Waste/Digital Love The Radioactors, (Sting on vocals) Picture sleeve. Cricket Star. Bob Calvert. Related Artists =============== Hawklords Hawklords 12" 25 Years & Dead Dreams of Cold War Kid Nektar Down to Earth Michael Moorcock and the Deep Fix The New World's Fair Rob Calvert Hype Gong You Nik Turner's Sphinx Xitin Today Inner City Unit Mother Gong Fairy Tales Widowmaker Too Late to Dry Rob Calvert Lucky Leif and the Longships Steve Swindells Fresh Blood Various Hot Shower Various A Quiet Night In Pink Fairies Various All Good Clean Fun Programmes ========== Hawkwind Masters of the Universe Monmore Rock Festival Hawkwind Space Ritual Hawkwind Central Deviet Observation Computors Global Exchange Hawkwind Levitation Tour 80 Black Sabbath Rainbow 1980 Gillan circa 1981 Magazines ========= Hawkwind Lyric Book with Illustrations Hawkfan Magazine issues no. 4, no. 6, no. 7, no. 8. Space Ritual, Articles and Lyrics. Zephyr mag 1982 ALSO Temple of Hex Peyotl Poster Laughter of Carthage, (Michael Moorcock Material) Hawkwind History Poster Please contact us at this address: ziggy_zaggy_ziggy_zaggy at yahoo.co.uk Picture sleeves are available for viewing at: www.thecollections.co.uk From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Apr 18 11:30:54 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:30:54 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Collection for sale! In-Reply-To: <200004181504.QAA13817@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: There's another interesting collection on ebay.com: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/jc242/ -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Tue Apr 18 12:12:46 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:12:46 -0400 Subject: ARTIMUS: Beltane Celebration appearance, May 1 Message-ID: Hello, As many of you know, the ancient celtic holiday of "Beltane" is rapidly approaching. This joyous welcoming of spring is something very special, and so it should be rung in with song, and merriment. On Monday May 1rst, ARTIMUS (Mike Burro), along with Jay Adcock, will appear at FERGIE'S PUB, in Philadelphia to welcome the May queen with song and ritual. This will be the second annual ARTIMUS Beltane appearance at FERGIE's and a good time is sure to be had by all. In addition, many of Philadelphia's great singer songwriters will also be there, providing a whole night of entertainment and myrth. Like last year, ARTIMUS will light the traditional Beltane fire, set within a green plant, and then sprinke the May Queen's herbal offering upon the light and greenery.. ARTIMUS will be going on early to sanctify the space, so attendees should arrive between 9:00-9:30 PM. FERGIE'S PUB 1214 SANSOM ST PHILADELPHIA PA http://www.fergies.com (215) 928-8118 Those of you who may be active practitioners of nature religions which acknowledge Beltane, and wish to participate in the ritual, please contact me, so that we can work out the logistics.. Peace, and Merriment to you, ARTIMUS (Mike Burro) "LET THE PEOPLE TOUCH THE STONES"!! http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Apr 18 15:06:13 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:06:13 +0100 Subject: OFF-ish Glastonbury Avalon tent Message-ID: Arthur Brown and Nic Turner's All Stars in the Avalon tent at Glastonbury. Now that's an experience to look forward to! jill From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Apr 18 17:01:46 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:01:46 -0400 Subject: OFF: Metro Guide Airing, Blue Floyd 01/28/00 @ 'Bottom Line', NYC Message-ID: Sources inform me that the 1/28/2000 Blue Floyd show excerpt is airing on Metro Guide(?) cable in NYC the end of this week. The program is called "Rhythm & Dues," and the show is due to air Friday (8, 9, 10, and 11pm), and Saturday at 10pm. If anyone in the NYC area gets this show, and is willing to tape me a copy, I'd be a really happy camper! I'm not sure if Blue Floyd are on the whole hour, or if it's just going to be a song (or two). Cheers, Paul. NP: String Cheese Incident, Harmony Park, Geneva, MN, 8/8/99 e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From george at LONDONOHIO.COM Tue Apr 18 20:02:20 2000 From: george at LONDONOHIO.COM (George Peyton) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:02:20 -0700 Subject: OFF: Dots In-Reply-To: <200004131539.LAA24094@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: I seem to have deleted the tour dates could someone please repost them? thanks george > >I have seen this band name mentioned here before - what are they like? >> >>I may try to see them in Cambridge, MA > >An odd mix of dreary poetic ramblings and then some very exciting flashes of >electronic wizardry and very intense jams. 'The Silverman' has banks of >oscillators and such devices that require copious amounts of knob-twiddling >during the performance. The sax player, Neils von Hoornblower (or something >like that) is really cool...sometimes plays two saxes (alto and >bari?) at once. >The singer Ka-Spel is a nut...he has a really nasally whiny voice (sim. to >Syd Barrett) that I really don't like at all. His lyrics are really more of >the ranting variety...not sure what he going on about all the time. > >Overall, I would say that they're not an exceptionally talented group of >musicians. But then we've already had that discussion. :) They seem to be >popular with the goth crowd (wear black!), and they do have a similar flavor >I guess. Their albums and their live performances both are hit-and-miss >affairs. But it's worth it for the thirty minutes or so at the end where >they put on the full electronic assault. "The Saucers are Coming" and "The >Grain Kings." Great stuff. 'The Maria Dimension' is the album to look for >first, I imagine. > >Grakkl (FAA) -- Londonline - London, Ohio's Web site From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Apr 18 18:17:39 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:17:39 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dots In-Reply-To: <200004131349.JAA25203@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu>; from henderson.120@OSU.EDU on Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 08:47:58AM -0400 Message-ID: Reposted by request... On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 08:47:58AM -0400, K Henderson wrote: > Legendary Pink Dots No. American tour 2000: > > 5/24 - Toronto, ON Lee's Palace > 5/25 - London, ON Call the Office > 5/26 - Montreal, PQ Cabaret Music Hall > 5/27 - Cambridge, MA Middle East Downstairs > 5/28 - Winooski, VT Higher Ground > 5/31 - Rochester, NY TO BE CONFIRMED > 6/01 - New York, NY Wetlands Preserve > 6/02 - Washington, DC Black Cat > 6/03 - Philadelphia, PA Upstage > 6/04 - Richmond, VA Twisters > 6/06 - Carborro, NC Cat's Cradle > 6/07 - Charlotte, NC Tremont Music Hall > 6/08 - Atlanta, GA Cotton Club > 6/09 - Jacksonville, FL Jack Rabbits > 6/10 - Orlando, FL Sapphire Supper Club > 6/11 - St. Petersburg, FL The State Theatre > 6/12 - New Orleans, LA Howlin' Wolf > 6/14 - Cincinnati, OH Bogart's > 6/15 - Cleveland, OH Peabody's Down Under > 6/16 - Columbus, OH Little Brother's > 6/17 - Pittsburgh, PA TO BE CONFIRMED > 6/18 - Pontiac, MI 7th House > 6/20 - Milwaukee, WI Rave Bar > 6/21 - Minneapolis, MN First Avenue > 6/22 - Chicago, IL Double Door > 6/23 - St. Louis, MO Side Door > 6/24 - Lawrence, KS The Bottleneck > 6/26 - Austin, TX Stubb's Bar-B-Q > 6/27 - Houston, TX Instant Karma > 6/28 - Dallas, TX TO BE CONFIRMED > 6/30 - Denver, CO Bluebird Theatre > 7/01 - Denver, CO Bluebird Theatre > 7/03 - Salt Lake City, UT DV8 > 7/05 - Los Angeles, CA Roxy Theatre > 7/06 - Santra Ana, CA TO BE CONFIRMED > 7/07 - San Francisco, CA TO BE CONFIRMED > 7/08 - Portland, OR TO BE CONFIRMED > 7/09 - Seattle, WA TO BE CONFIRMED > 7/10 - Vancouver, BC TO BE CONFIRMED > 7/11 - San Juan Island TO BE CONFIRMED -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of ridicule. he was NOT a loser. thank you, Mr. Schulz. - Robert C. Mayo From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 18 19:50:22 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:50:22 +0100 Subject: Help - info on Hawkwind singles? Message-ID: Has anyone heard of this colour version of the Sonic Attack 7" ? Also Rob Godwin's collectors book lists the "Who's Gonna Win The War?" 7" on Bronze as having appeared with both a green label and a silver one. Has anyone seen the silver one? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 18 19:50:57 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:50:57 +0100 Subject: Mike Coleman's email address? Message-ID: Does anyone have his current one? FoFP From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Tue Apr 18 20:36:27 2000 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:36:27 EDT Subject: Mike Coleman's email address? Message-ID: No, because he doesn't have one. You are welcome to contact me if you need to get in touch with him though. bob In a message dated 4/18/00 4:51:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > Does anyone have his current one? > > FoFP > > Hawkwind: Time & Space Website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Apr 18 23:04:56 2000 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:04:56 PDT Subject: Washing Machine Message-ID: In all this talk of Simon House, I have not seen anyone mention his band High Tide. I recently found the 1970 S/T release on disc and have not decided if I am going to part w/ my near mint vinyl copy at SD 2000 or not.... Quite a good record, even if it is only 3 songs (not short by any means.) Stalk Forrest Group - St. Cecilia: quite interesting recording. BOC in it's infancy. I have the Italian version, which is supposed to be the better sounding...... Also, every BOC fan needs a copy of the June 7,1996 issue of Goldmine w/ BOC on the cover. The title of the extensive article chronicling the early history of BOC is a fitting "Then Came the Last Days of May". I got mine for free.... I was showing my girlfriend my old stomping grounds on High Street in Columbus, Ohio and as we were leaving 'School Kids' records she stole a copy! Well, she did not know she was stealing. She thought it was another one of those free music magazines that she had seen me picking up. What a laugh when she found out! You may be able to order a back issue.... I highly recommend it! If you have not checked out the news page at www.strange-trips.com There's no time like the present. This years Strange Daze 2000 is gearing up to be quite a time. Great location! Great music! And the best bunch of freaks, all in one place ") Born To GO np: Djam Karet - Burning The Hard City D-Rider (Darrin) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Apr 18 22:28:56 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:28:56 -0400 Subject: BOC: Washing Machine Message-ID: Darrin relates... >Also, every BOC fan needs a copy of the June 7,1996 issue of Goldmine w/ BOC >on the cover. The title of the extensive article chronicling the early >history of BOC is a fitting "Then Came the Last Days of May". Was I the only one who thought in the pursuit of completeness and great detail, they wrote an amazingly boring article? I haven't looked at in in the nearly 4 years' hence, but that's how I remember it. >I got mine >for free.... I was showing my girlfriend my old stomping grounds on High >Street in Columbus, Ohio and as we were leaving 'School Kids' records she >stole a copy! USED Kids!!! How could you forget the name of that store?! I worship that place...I'm there about once a week. Actually, it's the Used Kids Annex you were in, that houses the vinyl and 'special' CD sections (i.e., 70s music) for us older folks. Although I find lots of goodies in the alterna-shop (just) "Used Kids" next door where most of the younger generation look for their Dave Matthews fix, or whatever it is they listen to while washing their A&F jammies. :) >If you have not checked out the news page at www.strange-trips.com >There's no time like the present. This years Strange Daze 2000 is gearing up >to be quite a time. Great location! Great music! And the best bunch of >freaks, all in one place ") Please stop staring at me. :) Grakkl (FAA) From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Tue Apr 18 23:44:00 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:44:00 -0400 Subject: BOC/BRAIN: part the second of the Meltzer minifest Message-ID: [here's the text of the review]: Ran into Eric ("Don't call me Manny") Bloom of the BOC formerly known as Stalk-Forrest Group f/k/a Oaxaca f/k/a the Soft White Underbelly the other nite following him and his band's smash 2nd fiddle to the Faces at Madison Square Garden home of the New York (but you can have em Sheboygan) Rangers and the old coozehound (he once got crabs in his beard) tells me I will not be receiving my long-awaited royalty smackola from Secret Treaties for the next umpteen sometimes to come. Baaaaaad news in light of the $2500 total I pocketed in '74 for everything I wrote for every magazoon the entire goddamn year but seems B.O'Cult Music Publishing Inc. decided this poor struggling beat combo had more pressing need of the songwirting boodle due to heavy travel expenses to Jersy and Pennsylvania and leather hot pants and studded belts and ugly space bracelets and all the rest-o-things required for projecting the menacing "now" look of today's rock and roll. Hey I'm not complaining that Patti Smith got _her_ royalites from "Career of Evil" altho she ain't even in the band because Pearlman things if he pays her he can get in her pants even tho she's with Allen Lanier (when she's not with Tom Verlaine).... not at all. Cause Eric--formerly known as Roy Mucilage-- tells me not to worry as their newie is _bound to go gold_ (promises, promises: said the same thing last time) (Pearlman said it tho, not E. "M." Bloom) and since I got a song on it ("Harvester of Eyes") I won't hafta be pickin up no varicose standing on bread lines. YEah, well goody goody gumdrops, pretty penny's gonna be coming my way in no time flat, who could axe for anything more? But like I said I've heard it before so I guess I'll hafta play it safe and encourage a gold ruch with a STRICTLY POSITIVE REVIEW. Don't suppose these paragraphs're gonna sell or unsell more'n 3 or 4 copies but you never can tell, people might just suddenly be nutser than squirrels and the printed rock word--who knows?-- may usddenly somehow've gotten bigger (in Shreveport and altoona)tan the flugging bible, it's certainly worth the gamble and the effort and what the hell anyway, this review should net me a solid 2 figures. Okay, lessee, um well for one thing (my record player's been bust since April but I did get to hear it on cassette in a vehicle) Don Roeser's back in form. Time was ('68-'69,'70) good ole Don was the goshdamn kind of them all, back then you would have to've said out of the 10 hottest geetar solos live or in the sutdio at least 9 of em had to be his (I ain't kiddin). In the interim he kind of slipped a couple-three-four-five notches but who cares cause he wasn't talkin to me no more anyway. Seems I'm SUPPOSED to've messed up his wedding tho all I did was fondly his mom around the chest and hind (nice..._nice_) and yell out "Sandi Nazi! Sandi Nazi!" (that's Don's wife altho she spells it Nasci) and me and Allen each both threw beer bottles thru a window or something, y'know just havin a good time and in fact I even already got punished (by KARMA) by arrivin home all sick and hung over with _shit in my pants_ from not wiping thorough enough (most passengers in Pearlman's car thought the odor was from Manny but the fact is it was _me_) so you'd think the Roesers woulda forgave me but no such luck. Well anyway DON'S PLAYING IS NOW TOP OF THE HEAP ONCE MORE, THE TOPMOST TOPMOST TOP AND THAT'S NO LIE. As a great showcase of pickin as you'd ever wanna hear (c'mon Donny-Boy,. time to lift a tall coool one with your old bud Dick again!) and my pal Terry Atkinson listens to it ever day while shavin the hairs off his face and even after he's done cause he sez it is _that good_ -- he oughta know cause he's played it more than me. Rest of the Cultboys are in ace/primo/A-1 form as well and now that I've complimented all you fuckers how's about usin more of my lyrics next time studio obligations rear their head and I mean two or three or four (such as: "I Live With the Roaches," "A Wrestling Kind of Love" and "Just Like Hansel and Gretel" but whicever ones you wanna use is fine by me, I'm tolerant). [Well, 1 out of 3 20 years or so later isn't too bad :) - J] Really folks, readers of this sheet, this elpee's their best since the one they cut for Elektra back in '70 (hey David Geffen if you're readin this and all those Cher lawsuits aren't getting you down, THAT'S THE ONE Y'REALLY OUGHTA RELEASE, IT'LL MAKE YOU MORE THAN BOBBY DYLAN DID, NO SHIT, IT'S IN THE VAULT THERE SOMEWHERE UNDER EITHER OAXACA OR THE STALK-FORREST GROUP). Nah, this one's even better, 2 records (a "double") so it's _twice_ as good, maybe even 2.6 and I'm not talking Richter scale. Swear to god, I wouldn't lie. Why would I lie? [well, ever more intrique aboute hte Roeser wedding cleared up. very odd rantish review. I dig the Don-centricness of the article. Rest of the book reads very simialr to this with wild zany experiments in style to boot. We should flood elektra's email with SFG/Oaxaca LP requests :) ... it really is a good slab o' wax . Back to the policy machine. Jason] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I'm in a FOUL mood today. Stay outa my way or I'll CRITIQUE YOUR ASS to hell. Just ME, just YOU...a decent song. You wanna see THEM, see THEM. I don't give a ****." - Richard Meltzer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Apr 18 01:08:58 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 01:08:58 -0400 Subject: BOC: Washing Machine In-Reply-To: <200004190331.XAA23558@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: At 10:28 PM 4/18/00 -0400, K Henderson wrote: >Darrin relates... > >>Also, every BOC fan needs a copy of the June 7,1996 issue of Goldmine w/ BOC >>on the cover. The title of the extensive article chronicling the early >>history of BOC is a fitting "Then Came the Last Days of May". > >Was I the only one who thought in the pursuit of completeness and great >detail, they wrote an amazingly boring article? Yes. I loved the incidentals, various new york area scene of the times, as much as stuff about B?C itself... I do remember Albert posting that several recollections of Sandy's (I think) used in this article were faulty, he even crosschecked with some other people to make sure... All that aside, though, great article. Nice feature on Brain Surgeons, too... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Apr 19 03:25:58 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:25:58 +0100 Subject: BOC: Washing Machine In-Reply-To: <200004190331.XAA23558@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: > Was I the only one who thought in the pursuit of completeness and great > detail, they wrote an amazingly boring article? Not at all, I put mine in the recycling. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Apr 19 03:25:59 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 08:25:59 +0100 Subject: Help - info on Hawkwind singles? In-Reply-To: <200004182350.AAA02246@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > Also Rob Godwin's collectors book lists the "Who's Gonna Win The War?" > 7" on Bronze as having appeared with both a green label and a silver > one. Has anyone seen the silver one? I've got two different copies - but one with a green label, and one with the regular Bronze "evolution" label. (This is back when I used to kollekt.) -- Andy Ob7": The New Christs - "Waiting World" c/w "Face a new God" mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Apr 19 07:26:32 2000 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 04:26:32 PDT Subject: Washing Machine Message-ID: Used Kids - Yep, I know that's the name. .....Annex... I did not forget. You are correct on all counts, Captain Columbus....All run by the same people....I believe.... Originating from Used Kids... Didn't think that I would have to duck that one... And I'm not") Picky, picky, picky..... as an old friend would say "Ease Up, Skip". Every time I fly into Columbus, OH.... I hit that store. I have seen used Hawkwind in their '70's bin, nearly every time. OOPS! Now, I never will again ") The best store is long gone though.... As far as I know.... Capital City Records. Now, that was a vinyl junkies Nirvana (No, not the band). Anybody gonna follow-up on the 2 Hawkwind releases that I mentioned a day or so ago...? Strange Daze have found us.... D-Rider ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Wed Apr 19 11:51:20 2000 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 11:51:20 -0400 Subject: BOC: live in ny/'72 uh...what IS this? Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: > Speaking of the Eva label and upstate New York stuff, are any oldsters > (sorry!) on the list from that area familiar with a band called Morgen (or > the leader, Doug Morgen)? They had one album on Probe (or maybe Dunhill) > in (I think) 1968 that features some blisteringly-heavy guitar work. I'd > love to know if anyone actually saw them (or remembered them from then at > all!). The Morgen album was on Probe. Amazingly, it has been released on CD. Welcome to the Void, indeed. (-8 John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From micci at SCI.FI Wed Apr 19 12:22:16 2000 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:22:16 +0300 Subject: Help - info on Hawkwind singles? Message-ID: >> Also Rob Godwin's collectors book lists the "Who's Gonna Win The War?" >> 7" on Bronze as having appeared with both a green label and a silver >> one. Has anyone seen the silver one? > >I've got two different copies - but one with a green label, and one with the >regular Bronze "evolution" label. (This is back when I used to kollekt.) I?m pretty sure that silver one is mistake, should be cream. Hey, listen both singles (green and cream labels) and find out that Who?s gonna.. songs ends are different. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 19 12:50:02 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:50:02 +0100 Subject: BOC/BRAIN: part the second of the Meltzer minifest In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20000418234400.0068f588@mail1.wizvax.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > [well, ever more intrique aboute hte Roeser wedding cleared up. very odd > rantish review. I dig the Don-centricness of the article. Rest of the book > reads very simialr to this with wild zany experiments in style to boot. We > should flood elektra's email with SFG/Oaxaca LP requests :) ... it really > is a > good slab o' wax . Back to the policy machine. Jason] Has anyone _got_ Elektra's e-mail? I'm willing to make a start :-) Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 19 13:14:31 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:14:31 +0100 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Nick Lee wrote: > Forgive me if this has been covered in the past. Which HW members, > excluding those with their own groups e.g. Lemmy, Huw, Nik, have been > the most active in sessions over the years? The obvious ones are Simon > House (Bowie, Japan), Simon King (Eno)...anyone got a full listing? I > remember Dave Brock being credited for work with Iggy but when I asked > him about this years ago he didn't know anything about it; apart from > Capt. Lockheed and New World's Fair I don't think he has played on > anyone elses stuff. In fact, I should be able to work up some kind of a list from my file at home, which'll give people something to pick holes in. This only lists people's work after they had been in Hawkwind - I plan to add the before stuff in sometime but it's a bit more difficult to source. There are clearly some big gaps here, and I make no claims as to completeness of discography - but if anyone wants to send me corrections and additions I'd be glad of them. Anyhow, by member (not including Sonic Assassins & Hawklords releases): DAVE BROCK: ex-Dharma Blues Band, Dave Brock and Friends, The Famous Cure; (1969 Hawkwind Zoo) (original member) (ill 1971; back with Hawkwind 1971) 1974 Captain Lockheed & the Starfighters (S/T); 1974 Nektar (_Down To Earth_); (1977-1978 Sonic Assassins, Hawklords); 1982 Dave Brock (tracks from _Weird 101_, _Weird 105_, _Weird 107_); (1982 Hawklords); 1983 Dave Brock (`Identimate', `Motherless Children'); 1983 Dr. Technical and the Machines (`Zones'); 1983 Dave Brock (`Social Alliance'); 1985 Dave Brock (`Wired Up For Sound'); 1986 Dave Brock (_Earthed to the Ground_); 1988 Dave Brock & his Agents of Chaos (_Agents of Chaos_, `The Damage of Life'); 1988 Agents of Chaos (`The Damage of Life'); 1988 Hawkdog; 1990 Dr. Technical & the Hawks (_The Never-Ending Story of the Psychedelic Warlords_); (ill 1991; back to Hawkwind 1991); 1992 Dumpy's Rusty Nuts (_Get Out On The Road_); 1993 Dave Brock (`Mists of Meridin'); 1995 Dave Brock (_Strange Trips and Pipe Dreams_, `Burn Me Up'); 1995 Psychedelic Warlords (_White Zone_); 1998 Dave Brock (_Brock 7696_); [9] (refused entry to US 1998; back with Hawkwind 1998); forthcoming Dave Brock (_Sex Dreams_); forthcoming Psychedelic Warlords (_Volume 2_); forthcoming Dave Brock (tracks on _Hawkwind Family Tree_). MICK SLATTERY: ex-The Famous Cure; (1969 Hawkwind Zoo); (original member; leaves Hawkwind 1970); 1985 guest with Hawkwind. JOHN HARRISON: (1969 Hawkwind Zoo); (original member; leaves Hawkwind 1970); [somebody said something about Roy Buchanan and the Boston Jazz Orchestra, but this was all news to me... ]. NIK TURNER: ex-Mobile Freakout; (1969 Hawkwind Zoo); (original member); 1973: Captain Lockheed & the Starfighters (`Ejection'); 1974 Captain Lockheed & the Starfighters (S/T); 1975 Lucky Leif and the Longships (S/T); (leaves Hawkwind 1976); 1978 Sphynx (_Xitintoday_); 1979 Sting and the Radioactors (_Radioactivity_); 1979 Inner City Unit (`Solitary Ashtray'); 1979 Mother Gong (_Fairy Tale_); 1979 guest with Hawkwind; 1980 Sham 69 (_The Game_); 1980 Inner City Unit (_Pass Out: the 360? Psycho Deleria Sound_, `Paradise Beach'; 1980 Stranglers and Friends (_Live In Concert_); 1981 Mother Gong (_Robot Woman_); 1981 Inner City Unit (_The Maximum Effect_); 1981 Robert Calvert (_Hype: the songs of Tom Mahler_); 1981 Inner City Unit (`Beer, Baccy, Bingo, Benidorm'); 1981 guest with Hawkwind; 1982 Inner City Unit (`Bones of Elvis'); 1982 Catherine Andrews (_Fruits_); 1982 Inner City Unit (`Raj Neesh'); 1982 Inner City Unit (_Punkadelia_); 1982 The Astronauts (_Peter Pan Hits the Suburbs_); 1982 Big Amongst Sheep (_Space is a Lonely Place_); 1982 Thee Innerpropriates (_Is This The Aqueous?_); 1982 The Imperial Pompadours (_Ersatz_); 1982 guest with Hawkwind (back to Hawkwind 1982); 1983 Big Amongst Sheep (_Astroprop_); 1983 Underground Zero (_Official Bootleg_); 1984 Inner City Unit (_New Anatomy_); (leaves Hawkwind 1984); 1985 Inner City Unit (_The President's Tapes_); 1985 Inner City Unit (_Blood and Bone_); 1988 New Blood Transmission (_39 Converts_); 1988 Nik Turner (`Washing Machine'); 1988 Atomgods (_Wow_); 1992 Criminal Nation (_Trouble In The Hood_); [7] 1992 Mazlyn Jones, Guy Evans, Nik Turner & Friends (tracks from S/T); 1993 Nik Turner (_Sphynx_); 1993 Nik Turner's Space Ritual; 1993 Pinkwind (_Festival of the Sun_); 1994 Nik Turner (_Prophets of Time_); 1994 Hawkfairies (_Purple Haze_); 1994 Nik Turner's Space Ritual (`You Shouldn't Do That'); 1994 Helios Creed (`Hyperventilation'); 1994 Nik Turner's Space Ritual (_Space Ritual Alive 1994_); 1994 Nik Turner's Space Ritual (`Opa Loka'); 1994 Psychic TV (_A Pagan Day_); 1994 Anubian Lights (_The Eternal Sky_); 1994 Mazlyn Jones, Guy Evans, Nik Turner & Friends (tracks from S/T); 1995 Nik Turner (`Careful With That Axe Eugene'); 1995 Anubian Lights (_The Jackal and Nine_); 1995 Zero Gravity (_Space Does Not Care_); 1995 Nik Turner's Space Ritual (`Anubian Light Destiny'); 1996 Nik Turner (`Horus (Mirage Mix)'/`The Weighing of Heart and Negative Confession (Travel Mix)'); 1996 Nik Turner's Space Ritual (_Past or Future_); 1996 Pinkwind (_The Fairies' Tea Party_); 1997 HawXtar (_HawXtar_); 1997 Alien Planetscapes (`Soft Martian', `Radiation King'); 1997 Farflung (`25,000 Feet Per Second', `Soul Herder', `Opa Loka'); 1997 guest with Hawkwind; 1998 Nik Turner's Fantastic All-Stars (`El Dizzy'); 1998 guest with DarXtar, Dark Sun and others at Jonnkoping; 1998 Anubian Lights (_Let Not the Flame Die Out_); 1999 Dark Sun; 1999 guest with Farflung, Anubian Lights and others at Strange Daze; 1999 Nik Turner's Space Ritual; 1999 Mandra Gora Light Show Society (`Floating at the Gates of Dawn'); 1999 guests with Hawkwind; 2000 5:15 (`Silver Machine'); 2000 Nik Turner's Space Ritual; forthcoming Nik Turner's Fantastic All-Stars (_Kubano Kickasso_); forthcoming Dark Sun (_Ice Ritual_); forthcoming The Moor & Nik Turner (_?_); forthcoming Dark Sun (_?_). TERRY OLLIS: (1969 Hawkwind Zoo); (original member; leaves Hawkwind 1971); 1975 Michael Moorcock's Deep Fix (_New World's Fair_, `Dodgem Dude'); 1999 Snorkwind. STEVEN MACMANUS (DIK MIK): (original member; leaves Hawkwind 1971); (back to Hawkwind 1971; leaves Hawkwind 1973). HUW LLOYD LANGTON: (joins Hawkwind 1970; leaves Hawkwind 1971); 1977 Widowmaker (_Too Late To Cry_); 1978 Widowmaker (_Widowmaker_); 1978 Quasar; back to Hawkwind 1979; 1980 Robert Calvert (`Lord of the Hornets'); (1982 Hawklords); 1983 Lloyd Langton Group (`Wind of Change'); 1983 Lloyd Langton Group (_Outside the Law_); 1984 Lloyd Langton Group (_Night Air_); 1986 Lloyd Langton Group (_Like An Arrow (Through the Heart)_); 1986 Snorkwind; 1987 Lloyd Langton Group (_Time Space and LLG_); (leaves Hawkwind 1988); 1990 Nic Potter (_The Blue Zone_); 1991 Lloyd Langton Group (_Elegy_); 1994 Lloyd Langton Group (_River Run_); 1994 Dr. Brown (_Dreamscape_); 1997 Lloyd Langton Group (_On The Move_); 1999 Lloyd Langton Group (_Chain Reaction_). THOMAS CRIMBLE: (joins Hawkwind 1970; leaves Hawkwind 1970); guest with Hawkwind 1971; [lots I'm sure, but I don't know any]. DAVE ANDERSON: ex-Amon D??l II; (joins Hawkwind 1970; leaves Hawkwind 1971); 1983 Amon D??l 2 (_Hawk Meets Penguin Vol. 1_); 1984 Inner City Unit (_New Anatomy_); 1985 guest with Hawkwind; 1985 Amon D??l 2 (_Meetings with Menmachines, Inglorious Heroes of the Past_); 1985 Inner City Unit (_The President's Tapes_); 1985 4x (_Ballet Dancer_); 1987 Groundhogs (_Back Against the Wall_); 1987 Amon D??l 2 (`Olaf (Where's my $20,000?)'); 1989 Amon D??l 2 (_Fool Moon_); 1989 Amon D??l 2 (_Die L?sung_). DEL DETTMAR: (joins Hawkwind 1971); 1974 Captain Lockheed & the Starfighters (S/T); (leaves Hawkwind 1974); ?1975 solo/Melodic Energy Commission (_Synthesis_); [1] ?1977 solo/Melodic Energy Commission (_M=E/C2_); ?1978 Melodic Energy Commission (`Melody is Energy'); 1980 Melodic Energy Commission (_Stranger in Mystery_); 1980 Melodic Energy Commission (_Migration of the Snails_); 1994 Nik Turner's Space Ritual (`You Shouldn't Do That'); 1994 Helios Creed (`Hyperventilation'); 1994 Nik Turner's Space Ritual (_Space Ritual Alive 1994_); 1994 Psychic TV (_A Pagan Day_); 1994 Spiral Realms (_A Trip to G9_); 1994 Anubian Lights (_The Eternal Sky_); 1995 Anubian Lights (_The Jackal and Nine_); 1996 Nik Turner's Space Ritual (_Past or Future_). IAN KILMISTER (LEMMY): ex-Opal Butterfly, Sam Gopal's Dream, Rocking Vicars; (joins Hawkwind 1971); 1973 Captain Lockheed & the Starfighters (`Ejection'); 1974 Captain Lockheed & the Starfighters (S/T) 1974; (leaves Hawkwind 1975); 1976 Mot?rhead (_On Parole_); 1977 Mot?rhead (_Mot?rhead_); 1977 Mot?rhead (_Blitzkrieg on Birmingham_); 1978 Mot?rhead (_What's Words Worth_); 1978 Mot?rhead (`Louie Louie'); 1979 Mot?rhead (_Overkill_); 1979 Mot?rhead (_Bomber_); 1980 Mot?rhead (_The Golden Years Live_); 1980 Mot?rhead (_Ace of Spades_); 1980 Robert Calvert (`Lord of the Hornets'); 1980 Mot?rhead (_Beer Drinkers_); 1981 Headgirl (_The St. Valentine's Day Massacre_); 1981 Mot?rhead (_No Sleep Till Hammersmith_); 1981 Young & Moody Band (`Don't Do That'); 1982 Mot?rhead (_Iron Fist_); 1982 Lemmy and Wendy (`Stand By Your Man'); 1983 Mot?rhead (_Another Perfect Day_); 1983 guest with Hawkwind; 1984 Mot?rhead (_No Rem?rse_); 1985 Mot?rhead (_The Birthday Party_); 1986 Mot?rhead (_Orgasmatron_); 1986 Mot?rhead (_The King Biscuit Flower Hour Live_); 1987 Mot?rhead (_Rock'n'Roll_); 1988 Lemmy and the Upsetters (`Blue Suede Shoes', another track); [4] 1988 Mot?rhead (_No Sleep At All_); 1991 Mot?rhead (_1916_); 1992 Mot?rhead (_March ?r Die_); 1992 Mot?rhead (_'92 Tour Live_); 1992 Mot?rhead (_Better Wear Arm?r_); 1993 Mot?rhead (_Bastards_); 1994 Mot?rhead with Ice-T and Whitfield Crane (`Born To Raise Hell'); 1995 Mot?rhead (_Sacrifice_); 1995 Mot?rhead (_The Mot?rheadbangers' Ball_); 1996 Mot?rhead (_Overnight Sensation_); 1998 Mot?rhead (_Snake Bite Love_); 1999 Mot?rhead (_Everything Louder than Everyone Else_); 2000 Lemmy, Slim Jim & ? (_?_) forthcoming Mot?rhead (_We Are Mot?rhead_). ROBERT CALVERT: (joins Hawkwind 1971; not part of recordings till 1972); (leaves Hawkwind 1973); 1973 Captain Lockheed & the Starfighters (`Ejection'); 1974 Captain Lockheed & the Starfighters (S/T); 1974 Nektar (_Down To Earth_); 1975 Lucky Leif and the Longships (S/T); 1976 John Stevens Away (_Mazin Ennet_); [2] (back to Hawkwind 1976); (1977-1978 Sonic Assassins, Hawklords); 1979 Robert Calvert & The First XI (`Cricket Star'); 1980 Robert Calvert (`Lord of the Hornets'); 1981 Robert Calvert (_Hype: the songs of Tom Mahler_); 1982 The Imperial Pompadours (_Ersatz_); 1982 guest with Hawkwind; 1983 guest with Hawkwind; 1984 Robert Calvert (_Freq_); 1984 guest with Hawkwind; 1986 Robert Calvert (_Test Tube Conceived_); 1986 Robert Calvert & Krankschaft (_At The Queen Elizabeth Hall_); 1989 Robert Calvert (_Blueprints From The Cellar_); 1989 Amon D??l 2 (_Die L?sung_); (posthumous); [6] 1991 Robert Calvert (_Bugatti_); 1992 Robert Calvert (_Revenge_). JOHN `TWINK' ALDER: ex-solo, Pink Fairies, Pretty Things, Tomorrow; (Hawkwind standby 1971); 1973 Captain Lockheed & the Starfighters (`Ejection'); 1975 Pink Fairies (_Live At The Roundhouse_); 1974-6 Mouse and Twink (_Out of the Pink and Into the Blues_); 1977 The Rings (_I Wanna Be Free_); 1978 Twink and the Fairies (_Do It '77_); 1986 Twink (`Apocalipstic'); 1986 Twink (`Space Lover'); 1987 Twink (`Driving My Car'); 1987 Pink Fairies (_Kill 'Em and Eat 'Em_); 1989 Magic Muscle (_One Hundred Miles Below_); 1990 Twink (_Mr. Rainbow_); 1990 Bevis & Twink (_Magic Eye_); 1993 Nik Turner's Space Ritual; 1993 Pinkwind (_Festival of the Sun_); 1994 Hawkfairies (_Purple Haze_); 1996 Pink Fairies (_Out of the Blue and into the Pink_); [8] 1996 Pinkwind (_The Fairies' Tea Party_); 1996 Pink Fairies (_Pleasure Island_). SIMON KING: ex-Opal Butterfly; (joins Hawkwind 1971); 1973 Captain Lockheed & the Starfighters (`Ejection') 1973; 1974 Captain Lockheed & the Starfighters (S/T); 1974 Eno (_Here Come The Warm Jets_); 1975 Michael Moorcock's Deep Fix (_New World's Fair_); (injured 1975; back to Hawkwind 1975); (leaves Hawkwind 1977); (1978 Hawklords); 1978 Quasar; (back to Hawkwind 1979); (leaves Hawkwind 1980); 1980 Robert Calvert (`Lord of the Hornets'); 1981 Turbo. SIMON HOUSE: ex-?Magic Muscle, High Tide, Third Ear Band; (joins Hawkwind 1974); (leaves Hawkwind 1977); 1978 Bowie (_Stage_); 1979 Bowie (_Lodger_); 1980 Denny Gerrard (`Sinister Morning'); 1981 Robert Calvert (_Hype: the songs of Tom Mahler_); 1981 Turbo; 1981 Japan (_Tin Drum_); 1983 Simon House (_House of Dreams_); [3] 1986 High Tide (_Interesting Times_); 1987 Jellymasters (_Two True Believers_); (back to Hawkwind 1989); 1989 Magic Muscle (_One Hundred Miles Below_); (leaves Hawkwind 1990); 1990 High Tide (_Reason of Success_); 1991 Magic Muscle (_Gulp_); 1992 Robert Calvert _(Revenge_); 1993 Nik Turner's Space Ritual; 1994 Nik Turner (_Prophets of Time_); 1994 Simon House (_Yassassim_); 1994 Nik Turner's Space Ritual (`Opa Loka'); 1994 Spiral Realms (_A Trip to G9_); 1994 Anubian Lights (_The Eternal Sky_); 1995 Spiral Realms (_Crystal Jungles of Eos_); 1995 Spiral Realms (`Interstellar Overdrive'); 1995 Anubian Lights (_The Jackal and Nine_); 1995 Nik Turner's Space Ritual (`Anubian Light Destiny'); 1996 Nik Turner's Space Ritual (_Past or Future_); 1996 Spiral Realms (_Solar Wind (live)_); 1998 Anubian Lights (_Let Not the Flame Die Out_); 1999 Nik Turner's Space Ritual; 1999 Adrian Shaw (_Head Cleaner_); (back to Hawkwind 1999); forthcoming Simon House (_Return to the Spiral Realms_). ALAN POWELL: ex-Stackridge, Chicken Shack; (joins Hawkwind 1975); 1975 Michael Moorcock's Deep Fix (_New World's Fair_); 1977 Deviants (_Screwed Up_); 1977 Deviants (tracks from _Have Left The Planet_); 1978 Mick Farren (_Vampires Stole My Lunch Money_); 1978 Mick Farren (`Half-Price Drinks'); 1978 Sphynx (_Xitintoday_); 1978 Tanz der Youth; 1979 Kicks; 1993 Nik Turner's Space Ritual; 1994 Nik Turner's Space Ritual (_Space Ritual Alive 1994_); 1994 Nik Turner's Space Ritual (`Opa Loka'); 1995 Nik Turner's Space Ritual (`Anubian Light Destiny'); 1996 Nik Turner's Space Ritual (_Past or Future_); 1999 Nik Turner's Space Ritual. MICHAEL MOORCOCK: ex-Bellyflops; (long-time Hawkwind guest 1971 onwards; joins Hawkwind 1975; leaves Hawkwind 1975); 1975 Michael Moorcock's Deep Fix (_New World's Fair_, `Dodgem Dude'); 1975 Lucky Leif and the Longships (S/T); 1981 Robert Calvert (_Hype: the songs of Tom Mahler_); (back to Hawkwind 1981; leaves Hawkwind 1981); 1982 Michael Moorcock and the Deep Fix (_The Brothel in Rosenstrasse_); guest with Hawkwind 1982; (back with Hawkwind 1985; leaves Hawkwind 1985); 1996 Nik Turner's Space Ritual (_Past or Future_). PAUL RUDOLPH: ex-Pink Fairies, Pink Fairies, Deviants; (joins Hawkwind 1975); 1975 Eno (_Another Green World_); (leaves Hawkwind 1976); 1977 Eno (_Before and After Science_); 1977 Deviants (_Screwed Up_); 1977 Deviants (tracks from _Have Left The Planet_); 1978 Twink and the Fairies (_Do It '77_); 1978 Eno (_Music For Films_); 1979 Kicks; 1980 Melodic Energy Commission (_Migration of the Snails_); 1996 Pink Fairies (_Out of the Blue and Into the Pink_); [8] 1996 Pink Fairies (_Pleasure Island_); 1997 Pink Fairies (_No Picture_). ADRIAN SHAW: ex-Magic Muscle; (joins Hawkwind 1976; leaves Hawkwind 1977); 1987 Jellymasters (_Two True Believers_); 1988 Magic Muscle (_The Pipe, the Roar and the Grid_); 1989 Magic Muscle (_One Hundred Miles Below_); 1991 Magic Muscle (_Living Weeds and Ancient Seeds_); 1991 The Bevis Frond (_New River Head_); 1991 Adrian Shaw (_Aerial Dance_); 1991 Magic Muscle (_Gulp_); 1992 The Bevis Frond (_Sprawl_); 1994 The Bevis Frond (_Superseeder_); 1996 Adrian Shaw (_Tea for the Hydra_); 1997 The Bevis Frond (_North Circular_); 1997 Deviants (_Memphis Psychosis_); 1997 Adrian Shaw (_Displaced Person_); 1999 Bevis Frond (_Vavona Burr_); 1999 Adrian Shaw (_Head Cleaner_); 1999 The Bevis Frond (_Live at the Great American Music Hall_). HARVEY BAINBRIDGE: (1977-8 Sonic Assassins, Hawklords); (joins Hawkwind 1978); (1982 Hawklords); 1983 Harvey Bainbridge (`The Changing'); 1983 Alman Mulo Band (_Mamissi_); (leaves Hawkwind 1984; back to Hawkwind 1984); 1984 Alman Mulo Band (_Orisha_); 1986 Alman Mulo Band (_Invisible Warrior_); 1988 Hawkdog; 1990 Dr. Technical & the Hawks (_The Never-Ending Story of the Psychedelic Warlords_); (leaves Hawkwind 1991); 1991 Alman Mulo Band (_Afrodisiac_); 1993 Harvey Bainbridge (_Interstellar Chaos_); 1994 Alman Mulo Band (_Diamonds and Toads_); 1997 Harvey Bainbridge (_Red Chaos_); 1997 Ant Bee (_Lunar Muzik_); 1999 Spaceship Eyes (_Truth in the Eyes of a Spaceship_); (back to Hawkwind 1999). PAUL HAYLES: (1977 Sonic Assassins); (joins Hawkwind 1978; leaves Hawkwind 1978). MARTIN GRIFFIN (1977-1978 Sonic Assassins, Hawklords); (joins Hawkwind 1978; leaves Hawkwind 1979; back to Hawkwind 1980); (1982 Hawklords); (leaves Hawkwind 1983). STEVE SWINDELLS: ex-solo, Pilot, String-Driven Thing; (1978 Hawklords); (joins Hawkwind 1978; leaves Hawkwind 1979); 1980 solo (_Fresh Blood_); 1980 solo (`Shot Down in the Night'); 1980 Robert Calvert (`Lord of the Hornets'); 1999 Swindells & Biz (`Y2k'). MICK SMITH: (1978 Hawklords). TIM BLAKE: ex-solo, Steve Hillage, Gong; (joins Hawkwind 1979; leaves Hawkwind 1980); 1991 Tim Blake (_Magick_); 1994 Gong (_The Birthday Party_); 1997 Tim Blake (_Red Shift_); 1998 Christian Boul? (tracks from _Photomuzik_); forthcoming Tim Blake (_The Tide of the Century_). GINGER BAKER: ex-Atomic Rooster, Energy, solo, Baker Gurvitz Army, Ginger Baker's Airforce, Blind Faith, Cream; (joins Hawkwind 1980; leaves Hawkwind 1980); 1982 Ginger Baker & Band (_From Humble Oranges_); 1982 Ginger Baker & Band (_Ginger Baker Live In Concert_); 1986 Public Image Ltd. (_Album_); 1986 Ginger Baker, Ravi Shankar & Bill Laswell (_Horses and Trees_); 1986 Ginger Baker & African Force (_African Force_); 1990 Ginger Baker & African Force (_Palanquin's Pole_); 1991 Ginger Baker, Sonny Sharrock & Peter Brotzman (_No Material_); 1992 Ginger Baker's African Force (_Middle Passage_); 1992 Ginger Baker & Courtney Pine (_The Album_); 1992 Ginger Baker's Energy (S/T); 1994 Jack Bruce (_Cities of the Heart_); 1994 BBM (_Around the Next Dream_); 1994 Ginger Baker Trio (_Going Back Home_). KEITH HALE: (joins Hawkwind 1980; leaves Hawkwind 1980). FREDERICK REEVES (DEAD FRED): ex-Inner City Unit; (joins Hawkwind 1982; leaves Hawkwind 1982); 1985 The Maximum Effect; 1986 Robert Calvert & Krankschaft (_At the Queen Elizabeth Hall_). ROBERT HEATON: (joins Hawkwind 1983; leaves Hawkwind 1983). MICK CLARK: ex-Lloyd Langton Group; (joins Hawkwind 1983; leaves Hawkwind 1984); 1999 Lloyd Langton Group (_Chain Reaction_). ANDY ANDERSON: ex-The Cure; (joins Hawkwind 1984; leaves Hawkwind 1984). CLIVE DEAMER: (joins Hawkwind 1984; leaves Hawkwind 1984; back to Hawkwind 1985; leaves Hawkwind 1985); 1994 Portishead (`Numb'); 1994 Portishead (_Dummy_); 1994 Portishead (`Glory Box'); 1997 Roni Size & Reprazent (`It's Jazzy'); 1997 Roni Size & Reprazent (_Brute Force_); 1997 Portishead (_Cowboys_); 1997 Roni Size & Reprazent (_New Forms_); 1997 Roni Size & Reprazent (`Heroes'); 1997 Portishead (S/T). ALAN DAVEY: ex-solo; (joins Hawkwind 1984); 1986 Snorkwind; 1987 Alan Davey (_The Elf_, other tracks from _The Elf and the Hawk_, `Sand Devil'); 1990 Dr. Technical & the Hawks (_The Never-Ending Story of the Psychedelic Warlords_); 1992 Dumpy's Rusty Nuts (_Get Out On The Road_); 1995 Psychedelic Warlords (_White Zone_); 1996 Alan Davey (_Captured Rotation_); (leaves Hawkwind 1997); 1997 Alan Davey's Bedouin (_Bedouin_); 1998 Alan 'The Elf' Davey (_Sci-Fi-Delic_); 1999 Bedouin (_Bedouin Live '98_); 1999 Ace of Spades; 1999 Snorkwind; 2000 Alan Davey (_Chaos Delight_); forthcoming Bedouin (_?_). DANNY THOMPSON Jnr: (joins Hawkwind 1984; leaves Hawkwind 1985; back to Hawkwind 1985); Snorkwind 1986; (leaves Hawkwind 1988); 1997 Alan Davey's Bedouin (_Bedouin_); 1998 Danny Thompson (_Skinwalker_); 1999 Bedouin (_Bedouin Live '98_); 1999 Ace of Spades; 1999 Snorkwind; forthcoming Bedouin (_?_). JENNY CHAPMAN: 1984 guest with Hawkwind. STEVEN CHARLES: (joins Hawkwind 1985; leaves Hawkwind 1985). [5] PAUL COBBOLD: 1987 guest with Hawkwind. CRUM: ex-Moonloonies; (joins Hawkwind 1988; leaves Hawkwind 1989; back to Hawkwind 1997; leaves Hawkwind 1997); 1999 Moonloonies (_?_). MICK KIRTON: (joins Hawkwind 1988; leaves Hawkwind 1989). RICHARD CHADWICK: (joins Hawkwind 1989); 1990 Dr. Technical & the Hawks (_The Never-Ending Story of the Psychedelic Warlords_); 1995 Psychedelic Warlords (_White Zone_); 1999 Whirlwind; 2000 ?; forthcoming Psychedelic Warlords (_Volume 2_); forthcoming Richard Chadwick (tracks on_Hawkwind Family Tree_). BRIDGET WISHART: ex-Hippie Slags; (joins Hawkwind 1989); 1990 Dr. Technical & the Hawks (_The Never-Ending Story of the Psychedelic Warlords_); (leaves Hawkwind 1991); 1999 Whirlwind. STEVE BEMAND: (joins Hawkwind 1991; leaves Hawkwind 1991). SAMANTHA FOX: 1993 guest with Hawkwind. RON TREE: ex-Bastard; (joins Hawkwind 1995); 1995 Psychedelic Warlords (_White Zone_); 1996 Alan Davey (_Captured Rotation_); (unable to leave the UK 1998; back with Hawkwind 1998); 1999 Whirlwind; (unable to leave UK 2000; back with Hawkwind 2000); forthcoming Psychedelic Warlords (_Volume 2_); forthcoming Ron Tree (tracks on _Hawkwind Family Tree_). JERRY RICHARDS: ex-Tubilah Dog; (1988 Hawkdog); guest with Hawkwind 1995; guest with Hawkwind 1995; (joins Hawkwind 1997); 1999 Whirlwind; 2000 ?; forthcoming Psychedelic Warlords (_Volume 2_); forthcoming Jerry Richards (tracks on _Hawkwind Family Tree_). CAPTAIN RIZZ: ex-solo; (joins Hawkwind 1997; leaves Hawkwind 1999); 1999 guest with Hawkwind. STEVE TAYLOR: 1998 guest with Hawkwind; 1999 Nik Turner's Space Ritual; 1999 Whirlwind; (joins Hawkwind 2000); 2000 ?. Notes [1] I've only heard of these albums as Melodic Energy Commission ones; but the current Melodic Energy Commission propaganda seems to suggest _Stranger in Mystery_ was their first album. Did Del use the name solo before forming the band, which Xaliman now claims was his idea? [2] I think this is the other Robert Calvert, of Mother Gong; my source lists his Mother Gong appearance too, but I can't find anything to check this with. [3] Still unreleased. [4] Uncertain of the date here. [5] _Is_ that his name? You know the feller, percussion on _Chronicle of the Black Sword_. [6] I've left _Blueprints_ on the living side as it's pretty much as Bob left it, whereas as I understand it from Spirit of the P/Age, _Bugatti_ and _Revenge_ were finished after his death. [7] I think this is some other Nick Turner; spelling uncertain. [8] Not sure about this one; I've never seen it or heard of it, but a reputable source lists it (though not the following ones) and the Mouse and Twink album appears to be punning off its title. -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE Wed Apr 19 13:14:58 2000 From: Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE (WANGLER) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:14:58 +0200 Subject: Help - info on Hawkwind singles? Message-ID: I think that was an mistake. I have two version of this single. first release in the yellow bronze label and the second release have the green label Rainer M Holmes schrieb: > Has anyone heard of this colour version of the Sonic Attack 7" ? > > Also Rob Godwin's collectors book lists the "Who's Gonna Win The War?" > 7" on Bronze as having appeared with both a green label and a silver > one. Has anyone seen the silver one? > > FoFP From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Apr 19 12:50:44 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:50:44 -0400 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: Jon heroically tabulated.... >NIK TURNER: > 1997 Alien Planetscapes (`Soft Martian', `Radiation King'); Huh? Do you mean live at SD'97? I don't think he was on Life on Earth. >STEVEN MACMANUS (DIK MIK): > (original member; leaves Hawkwind 1971); > (back to Hawkwind 1971; leaves Hawkwind 1973). Didn't somebody provide a different surname for Dik Mik? >HUW LLOYD LANGTON: He also played with Leo Sayer at one point in his career. > 1983 Lloyd Langton Group (`Wind of Change'); What the heck is this? >DAVE ANDERSON: >ex-Amon D??l II; > (joins Hawkwind 1970; leaves Hawkwind 1971); > 1983 Amon D??l 2 (_Hawk Meets Penguin Vol. 1_); > 1984 Inner City Unit (_New Anatomy_); > 1985 guest with Hawkwind; >From here on, should probably read Amon D??l (UK). > 1985 Amon D??l 2 (_Meetings with Menmachines, Inglorious Heroes of the Past_); > 1985 Inner City Unit (_The President's Tapes_); > 1985 4x (_Ballet Dancer_); > 1987 Groundhogs (_Back Against the Wall_); > 1987 Amon D??l 2 (`Olaf (Where's my $20,000?)'); > 1989 Amon D??l 2 (_Fool Moon_); > 1989 Amon D??l 2 (_Die L?sung_). On one of these last two, the top two credits are given as 'Hawk' and 'Penguin.' I've always figured that 'Hawk' was Anderson and 'Penguin' was Weinzierl. Is that what others' suspect? >MARTIN GRIFFIN > (1977-1978 Sonic Assassins, Hawklords); > (joins Hawkwind 1978; leaves Hawkwind 1979; back to Hawkwind 1980); > (1982 Hawklords); > (leaves Hawkwind 1983). somewhere in here, he was with Richard Strange, ex-Doctors of Madness. And appeared on the Live Rise of... at least. >STEVE SWINDELLS: >ex-solo, Pilot, String-Driven Thing; Messages (1974) belongs here. > (1978 Hawklords); > (joins Hawkwind 1978; leaves Hawkwind 1979); > 1980 solo (_Fresh Blood_); > 1980 solo (`Shot Down in the Night'); > 1980 Robert Calvert (`Lord of the Hornets'); > 1999 Swindells & Biz (`Y2k'). >TIM BLAKE: >ex-solo, Steve Hillage, Gong; also Delired Chameleon Family (soon for CD re-release), though his contribution is not obvious, and Clearlight Symphony (already out on CD) > (joins Hawkwind 1979; leaves Hawkwind 1980); > 1991 Tim Blake (_Magick_); > 1994 Gong (_The Birthday Party_); > 1997 Tim Blake (_Red Shift_); Wot's this? > 1998 Christian Boul? (tracks from _Photomuzik_); > forthcoming Tim Blake (_The Tide of the Century_). Has the title changed once again? >GINGER BAKER: ex-Atomic Rooster, Energy, solo, Baker Gurvitz Army, Ginger >Baker's Airforce, Blind Faith, Cream; > (joins Hawkwind 1980; leaves Hawkwind 1980); 198? Tours Europe as Ginger Baker's Hawkwind...slags Harvey. >KEITH HALE: > (joins Hawkwind 1980; leaves Hawkwind 1980). Didn't he sing Dangerous Visions on Zones? Or is that Hayles? >ANDY ANDERSON: >ex-The Cure; also ex-Steve Hillage Band? > (joins Hawkwind 1984; leaves Hawkwind 1984). >BRIDGET WISHART: >ex-Hippie Slags; and appears on T.A.T. (I think that's her in the photo with her arms out, isn't it?) >RON TREE: >ex-Bastard; and Captain Jesus (?), and DS2000 (?) >STEVE TAYLOR: ex-Nick Riff's Freak Element, ex-Sun Machine Does Doug Buckley, cowriter of Out of the Shadows count in your table? (He also appears on Starfire's self-titled debut (Spokane, WA) which also includes their version of Out of the Shadows.) And Roger Neville-Neal (poet, "Heads", and "The War I Survived"), who has also done stuff with Farflung. Grakkl (FAA) From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Apr 19 14:03:41 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:03:41 EDT Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: In a message dated 4/19/00 1:53:58 PM, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: << >GINGER BAKER: ex-Atomic Rooster, >> ====== you _sure_ suh? they were the band carl palmer left to become 1/3 of elp, around the time of baker's air force...hhmmmm.... "<>" From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Wed Apr 19 14:22:26 2000 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:22:26 +0100 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jon - A couple of additions: On 19 Apr 00, at 18:14, Jon Jarrett wrote: > > DAVE ANDERSON: > 1987 Groundhogs (_Back Against the Wall_); Also Hogs On The Road (double live LP) - recorded Dec 1987. Worth mentioning that the Groundhogs drummer for these albums was Mick Jones, not Mick Kirton. Both the above were released on Demi Monde; not sure it DA & MK ever played together. > > ANDY ANDERSON: > ex-The Cure; > (joins Hawkwind 1984; leaves Hawkwind 1984). Surely Andy Anderson played on the Feb '83 mini-tour only? Also, he has played with Steve Hillage and is recorded on (for instance) Steve Hillage's Live Herald album. I'm fairly sure that his playing with Hillage preceded his playing with the Cure. >MICK KIRTON: > (joins Hawkwind 1988; leaves Hawkwind 1989). Mick Kirton was with the Tony McPhee Band / Groundhogs from approx 1983 to late 80s; he appears on a couple of Groundhogs albums ie: Razor's Edge (also Moving Fast - Standing Still 2 for 1) - 1984 Groundhogs Live "No Surrender" album (copyright date is 1988). I can't believe you keep all this info. The Ginger Baker section *could* be expanded enormously. HTH Alasdair -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Apr 19 14:41:35 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:41:35 -0400 Subject: HW: Sonic Boom interview In-Reply-To: <200004180556.BAA26357@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu>; from henderson.120@OSU.EDU on Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 01:01:01AM -0400 Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 01:01:01AM -0400, K Henderson wrote: > I'm sure I remember other similar tales of 'accidents' becoming fantastic > successes, but it's late and my brain isn't functioning all that > efficiently. The stuttering-BTO "Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" is all I can think of. Not *exactly* space-rock :-) but apparently "Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" was a B-side, that some DJ ... I can't remember now whether it was a literal accident, and he played the wrong song on air; or just decided he preferred the B-side, playlist be damned. Lightfoot has said that if he knew it was going to be a hit, he wouldn't have made it so long and monotonous. Good thing he didn't know, then. > P.P.S. I thought Jethro Tull was responsible for crop rotation. Perhaps he > was, in addition to the seed thingy? He was responsible for a few things, it seems. I went searching on Google yesterday, but couldn't find more than fragmentary references (plus -- and my eyes kind of bugged out at this -- some University's help page on how to get meaningful results from Google that used my exact query as an example :-) The little I found suggests he was something of an agricultural Industrial Revolutionary. If so, I suppose the proverbial Ned Lud (and not-so-proverbial Bob Calvert) would have hated him... Here's a picture: http://www.soilandhealth.org/01aglibrary/010102/01010200frame.html One of the things he's credited with was ideas for farming under more arid conditions than traditional European-style agriculture can cope with (the above URL is actually to a book on the subject from 1910). Condidering population growth, and chronic water problems in the Middle East and a lot of other places, Mr. Tull may have something meaningful to offer the 21st Century. Who'd have thought, for someone who'd never have been heard of if some rock band hadn't appropriated his name... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of ridicule. he was NOT a loser. thank you, Mr. Schulz. - Robert C. Mayo From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Wed Apr 19 15:10:01 2000 From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:10:01 -0400 Subject: Jethro Tull In-Reply-To: <20000419144135.A20561@telepres.com> Message-ID: b. 1674, Basildon, Berkshire, Eng. d. Feb. 21, 1741, Prosperous Farm, near Hungerford, Berkshire English agronomist, agriculturist, writer, and inventor whose ideas helped form the basis of modern British agriculture. Tull trained for the bar, to which he was called in 1699. But for the next 10 years he chose to operate his father's farm in Oxfordshire, on which about 1701 he perfected a horse-drawn seed drill that economically sowed the seeds in neat rows. This was a notable advance over the usual practice of scattering the seeds by hand. In 1709 Tull bought a farm of his own in Berkshire. While later traveling in France and Italy, he was impressed by the cultivation methods in use in the vineyards, wherein the rows of earth between the vines had been pulverized. This reduced the need for manure and increased aeration and the access of water to and from plant roots, though Tull mistakenly believed that earth was the food of plants and that pulverization made it easier for plants to absorb it. He developed a horse-drawn hoe and successfully adopted the vineyard method to his farm. His success led to the publication of his The New Horse Houghing Husbandry: Or an Essay on the Principles of Tillage and Vegetation (1731). Tull's methods were initially subjected to violent attack, but they were eventually adopted by the large landowners and laid the basis for more modern and efficient British farming. Pic attatched is not Ian Anderson Michael S. Habiby VP Sales and Marketing the CableShoppe, inc. One Prospect Ave. Albany, NY 12206 (800) 386-2300 (518) 489-0269 - fax cableshoppe at global2000.net or mhabiby1 at nycap.rr.com ________________________ - Robert C. Mayo -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: JTull.gif Type: image/gif Size: 6560 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Wed Apr 19 15:13:24 2000 From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:13:24 -0400 Subject: More on Tull Message-ID: The first factory for making plows was established in England in 1783. Though the problem of mechanizing harvest work was not solved until the 19th century, a few fairly simple threshing machines were designed and put in use by 1800. Similarly, a variety of machines for such tasks as preparing animal feed, chopping turnips, and cutting chaff were designed and used. The English gentleman Jethro Tull made important contributions during this period, among them the horse-drawn hoe and the seed drill. To save expensive hand labour, Tull designed and fabricated horse-drawn hoes that destroyed the weeds and kept the soil between the rows in good crumbly (friable) condition. Tull believed that friable soil would supply all the nutrients a plant required, and he was so convinced of his theory that he planted wheat in rows spaced widely enough to allow for horse hoeing while the plant was growing. Tull also believed that placing the seed into the ground in small holes (drilling) would permit a much lighter rate of seeding than hand broadcast methods and still get high yields. To place the seeds, he designed and used a seed drill. Tull was not the first man to invent a seed drill. A seed dropper, consisting of a tube attached to a plow through which seed could be dropped by hand at regular intervals, had been attached to an ancient Babylonian plow. A similar system, but with two tubes behind two plowshares set in a rectangular frame, was employed in 17th-century China, and probably at a very much earlier date. An Italian described a modern form of seed drill in the late 16th century. An Austrian, Locatelli, described a sembrador, or seed drill attached to a plow, which was either used or proposed for use in Spain. After Tull, inventors were numerous, and, at the end of the 18th century, the drilling of seed, though not commonplace, was accepted. Throughout this period, however, the ordinary farmer continued to prepare his seedbed by plowing three times a year, occasionally more, and broadcasting seed by hand and harrowing it in. All these techniques were thousands of years old. ________________________ God I am bored. I should get back to work TTFN From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Wed Apr 19 15:19:02 2000 From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 15:19:02 -0400 Subject: off: re jethro tull Message-ID: OOPS I forgot to put off: in front of my last two emails. So sorry to those who filter their mail Michael S. Habiby VP Sales and Marketing the CableShoppe, inc. One Prospect Ave. Albany, NY 12206 (800) 386-2300 (518) 489-0269 - fax cableshoppe at global2000.net or mhabiby1 at nycap.rr.com ________________________ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 19 15:50:08 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 20:50:08 +0100 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. In-Reply-To: <200004191752.NAA24155@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, K Henderson wrote: > Jon heroically tabulated.... > > >NIK TURNER: > > 1997 Alien Planetscapes (`Soft Martian', `Radiation King'); > > Huh? Do you mean live at SD'97? I don't think he was on Life on Earth. Yeah - he is on those tracks on the SD97 CD isn't he? Or am I hearing someone else? > > >STEVEN MACMANUS (DIK MIK): > > (original member; leaves Hawkwind 1971); > > (back to Hawkwind 1971; leaves Hawkwind 1973). > > Didn't somebody provide a different surname for Dik Mik? S'what me book says... > >HUW LLOYD LANGTON: > > He also played with Leo Sayer at one point in his career. Got nothing on that... Anyone? > > 1983 Lloyd Langton Group (`Wind of Change'); > > What the heck is this? Non-album single from _Outside the Law_ sessions. > >DAVE ANDERSON: > >ex-Amon D??l II; > > (joins Hawkwind 1970; leaves Hawkwind 1971); > > 1983 Amon D??l 2 (_Hawk Meets Penguin Vol. 1_); > > 1984 Inner City Unit (_New Anatomy_); > > 1985 guest with Hawkwind; > > >From here on, should probably read Amon D??l (UK). Thought about that - is that what it says on the albums? > > 1985 Amon D??l 2 (_Meetings with Menmachines, Inglorious Heroes of > the Past_); > > 1985 Inner City Unit (_The President's Tapes_); > > 1985 4x (_Ballet Dancer_); > > 1987 Groundhogs (_Back Against the Wall_); > > 1987 Amon D??l 2 (`Olaf (Where's my $20,000?)'); > > 1989 Amon D??l 2 (_Fool Moon_); > > 1989 Amon D??l 2 (_Die L?sung_). > > On one of these last two, the top two credits are given as 'Hawk' and > 'Penguin.' I've always figured that 'Hawk' was Anderson and 'Penguin' was > Weinzierl. Is that what others' suspect? I believe this is correct, although John Weinzierl disowns all but _Hawk Meets Penguin_ as unfinished material which Dave Anderson released without permission (sound familiar?) > >MARTIN GRIFFIN > > (1977-1978 Sonic Assassins, Hawklords); > > (joins Hawkwind 1978; leaves Hawkwind 1979; back to Hawkwind 1980); > > (1982 Hawklords); > > (leaves Hawkwind 1983). > > somewhere in here, he was with Richard Strange, ex-Doctors of Madness. And > appeared on the Live Rise of... at least. More details! > >STEVE SWINDELLS: > >ex-solo, Pilot, String-Driven Thing; > > Messages (1974) belongs here. That's the solo thing I'm thinking of there... > > (1978 Hawklords); > > (joins Hawkwind 1978; leaves Hawkwind 1979); > > 1980 solo (_Fresh Blood_); > > 1980 solo (`Shot Down in the Night'); > > 1980 Robert Calvert (`Lord of the Hornets'); > > 1999 Swindells & Biz (`Y2k'). > > >TIM BLAKE: > >ex-solo, Steve Hillage, Gong; > > also Delired Chameleon Family (soon for CD re-release), though his > contribution is not obvious, and Clearlight Symphony (already out on CD) > > > (joins Hawkwind 1979; leaves Hawkwind 1980); > > 1991 Tim Blake (_Magick_); > > 1994 Gong (_The Birthday Party_); > > 1997 Tim Blake (_Red Shift_); > > Wot's this? Not sure - I only saw it mentioned on here, and there was confusion between it, someone else's album of this name, and Harvey's _Red Chaos_ which all came out at the same time, so I may have misread, or read someone else who had... > > 1998 Christian Boul? (tracks from _Photomuzik_); > > forthcoming Tim Blake (_The Tide of the Century_). > > Has the title changed once again? That was the last I saw on alt.music.planet-gong. > >GINGER BAKER: ex-Atomic Rooster, Energy, solo, Baker Gurvitz Army, Ginger > >Baker's Airforce, Blind Faith, Cream; > > (joins Hawkwind 1980; leaves Hawkwind 1980); > > 198? Tours Europe as Ginger Baker's Hawkwind...slags Harvey. Damn! Should have remembered that! > > >KEITH HALE: > > (joins Hawkwind 1980; leaves Hawkwind 1980). > > Didn't he sing Dangerous Visions on Zones? Or is that Hayles? That's him, but the actual recording is still from 1980 no matter what the release date says :-) > >ANDY ANDERSON: > >ex-The Cure; > > also ex-Steve Hillage Band? Ooh. Don't know. I have no source for Steve's band after _Fish Rising_, and this has annoyed me before. > >BRIDGET WISHART: > >ex-Hippie Slags; > > and appears on T.A.T. (I think that's her in the photo with her arms out, > isn't it?) Yup. > >RON TREE: > >ex-Bastard; > > and Captain Jesus (?), and DS2000 (?) 2000DS, isn't it? Yes, I'd like more details on them. > >STEVE TAYLOR: > > ex-Nick Riff's Freak Element, ex-Sun Machine Ooh! Thanks. > > Does Doug Buckley, cowriter of Out of the Shadows count in your table? > (He also appears on Starfire's self-titled debut (Spokane, WA) which also > includes their version of Out of the Shadows.) > > And Roger Neville-Neal (poet, "Heads", and "The War I Survived"), who has > also done stuff with Farflung. Yeah, I know of them, but they've never appeared with or recorded with the band, so I left them (and Stacia and Kris) out. Thanks for the interest! Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 19 15:52:53 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 20:52:53 +0100 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. In-Reply-To: <4a.4474890.262f4efd@aol.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 4/19/00 1:53:58 PM, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > > << >GINGER BAKER: ex-Atomic Rooster, >> > ====== > you _sure_ suh? > > they were the band carl palmer left to become 1/3 of elp, around the time of > baker's air force...hhmmmm.... So _The Great Rock Discography_ insists, though it fails to list him in the Rooster entry anywhere. I can't quite see when he fitted it in though. Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Apr 19 16:03:33 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 21:03:33 +0100 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. In-Reply-To: <200004191824.TAA29242@camelot.netcom.net.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, Alasdair Macdonald wrote: > Jon - > > A couple of additions: > > On 19 Apr 00, at 18:14, Jon Jarrett wrote: > > > > DAVE ANDERSON: > > > 1987 Groundhogs (_Back Against the Wall_); > > > Also Hogs On The Road (double live LP) - recorded Dec 1987. Aha! Cheers! > > ANDY ANDERSON: > > ex-The Cure; > > (joins Hawkwind 1984; leaves Hawkwind 1984). > > Surely Andy Anderson played on the Feb '83 mini-tour only? Also, > he has played with Steve Hillage and is recorded on (for instance) > Steve Hillage's Live Herald album. I'm fairly sure that his playing > with Hillage preceded his playing with the Cure. Damn! That means he was in the Cure after the Hawks, so I'll have to shovel in a lot of their stuff now :-/ Thanks anyway, though... > >MICK KIRTON: > > (joins Hawkwind 1988; leaves Hawkwind 1989). > > Mick Kirton was with the Tony McPhee Band / Groundhogs from > approx 1983 to late 80s; he appears on a couple of Groundhogs > albums ie: > Razor's Edge (also Moving Fast - Standing Still 2 for 1) - 1984 > Groundhogs Live "No Surrender" album (copyright date is 1988). > > I can't believe you keep all this info. The Ginger Baker section > *could* be expanded enormously. Ha, 'tis a mere 73K... and a big book and some URLs... Yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US Wed Apr 19 16:09:29 2000 From: blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US (Brad M. Lauchnor) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:09:29 -0600 Subject: BOC: Palo Alto Tree structure Message-ID: Here is the tree structure for the Palo Alto show. Branches contact me or send me 2 blank discs and return postage. Leafs contact your branch. If anyone missed out or wants to join we have plenty of room with the branches or I can burn your discs, just contact me. Brad D. you can come by the house or I'll loan you the discs to converrt to mini-disc :) Europe Branch 1 Steffen Hajo hajo.steffen at t-online.de Leaf 1 Stuart Hamilton stuarthamilton at connectfree.co.uk Leaf 2 Jason Gool imaginos at pavilion.co.uk USA Branch 1 Joe Loft joe.lofft at itec.mail.suny.edu Leaf 1 Ted Jackson tojackso at library.syr.edu Leaf 2 John McIntyre mcintyre at pa.msu.edu Leaf 3 Andrew Apold mordru at flite.net Branch 2 Michael Habbiby cableshoppe at global2000.net Leaf 1 Ric Hedges Rocker22 at aol.com Leaf 2 Brian Halligan blackblade at bhalligan.com Brad L. blauchno at deq.state.ut.us From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Wed Apr 19 16:53:52 2000 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 12:53:52 -0800 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 20:50:08 Jon Jarrett wrote: >On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, K Henderson wrote: >> >DAVE ANDERSON: >> >From here on, should probably read Amon D||l (UK). > Thought about that - is that what it says on the albums? I only have the one below, and it is credited to simply "Amon Duul" (with the umlauts, of course). But AD fans call this Amon Duul (UK), as Keith said. >> > 1985 Amon D||l 2 (_Meetings with Menmachines, Inglorious Heroes of >> the Past_); It's actually called "Meetings with Menmachines Unremarkable Heroes of the Past" (no punctuation). It was recorded during the summer of 82. >> > 1997 Tim Blake (_Red Shift_); >> Wot's this? > Not sure - I only saw it mentioned on here, and there was >confusion between it, someone else's album of this name, and Harvey's _Red >Chaos_ which all came out at the same time, so I may have misread, or >read someone else who had... Harvey's got 2 solos out, _Interstellar Chaos_ and _Red Shift_ (I think). MWood NP: nothing.... --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Apr 19 17:05:43 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 14:05:43 -0700 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:14:31 +0100, Jon Jarrett wrote: > >DAVE ANDERSON: >ex-Amon D??l II; > (joins Hawkwind 1970; leaves Hawkwind 1971); > 1984 Inner City Unit (_New Anatomy_); > 1985 Inner City Unit (_The President's Tapes_); Dave Anderson is on 'NewAnatomy' (one track), but not on 'The Presidents Tapes' (or the "Blood and Bone" 12" that came between those two records). He'd already been fired, and all the bass parts on those records were played by "Dead" Fred Reeves and Steve Pond. >JOHN `TWINK' ALDER: >ex-solo, Pink Fairies, Pretty Things, Tomorrow; > (Hawkwind standby 1971); He also guested with Milwaukee psych band Plasticland (as frontman) for their live album, 'You Need A Fairy Godfather' from, I believe, 1990 (Midnight Records). Probably my favorite thing he's done since getting booted from the Pink Fairies. >ALAN POWELL: >ex-Stackridge, Chicken Shack; > (joins Hawkwind 1975); > 1978 Tanz der Youth; Tanz Der Youth released one 7" single on Radar records; can't remember the title offhand. It should probably also be mentioned that he currently plays country(?) music as "Joe Alan". >KEITH HALE: > (joins Hawkwind 1980; leaves Hawkwind 1980). Keith Hale is ex-Comus (whose first album rules, but the second one, with Hale, sucks). >STEVEN CHARLES: > (joins Hawkwind 1985; leaves Hawkwind 1985). [5] > >[5] _Is_ that his name? You know the feller, percussion on _Chronicle of >the Black Sword_. That would be DAVE Charles, one of the engineers at Rockfield studios. I'm pretty sure I've seen his name on other production credits, but I can't think of where ... >RON TREE: >ex-Bastard; > (joins Hawkwind 1995); Also ex-2000DS (see TAT) and ex-Captain Jesus and the Sunray Dream (I have both LP's released by the latter). >STEVE TAYLOR: ex(?)-Sun Machine On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 20:52:53 +0100, Jon Jarrett wrote: >On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: >> In a message dated 4/19/00 1:53:58 PM, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: >> >> << >GINGER BAKER: ex-Atomic Rooster, >> >> ====== >> you _sure_ suh? >> >> they were the band carl palmer left to become 1/3 of elp, around the time of >> baker's air force...hhmmmm.... > > So _The Great Rock Discography_ insists, though it fails to list >him in the Rooster entry anywhere. 'The Great Rock Discography' by M.C. Strong? That book is so ridiculously riddled with stupid errors (some of which are apparently intentional to discourage copyright violation) that I consider it fairly worthless as a serious, reliable reference. There's at least one mistake in damn near every single entry. I've been tempted to make a list of all the mistakes, but I have other things that I need to do during the next three years. If it says that Ginger Baker was in Atomic Rooster, it's a pretty safe assumption that he WASN'T. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Apr 19 19:07:17 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 00:07:17 +0100 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: I think the Andy Anderson time line is: Steve Hillage Sphynx Steve Hillage Steve Hillage/ICU ICU Hawkwind Cure Brilliant? Where is Andy now? -----Original Message----- From: Alasdair Macdonald To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 19 April 2000 19:24 Subject: Re: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Jon - > ANDY ANDERSON: > ex-The Cure; > (joins Hawkwind 1984; leaves Hawkwind 1984). Surely Andy Anderson played on the Feb '83 mini-tour only? Also, he has played with Steve Hillage and is recorded on (for instance) Steve Hillage's Live Herald album. I'm fairly sure that his playing with Hillage preceded his playing with the Cure. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Apr 19 18:14:16 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:14:16 -0400 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: Marshall said... >On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 20:50:08 Jon Jarrett wrote: >>On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, K Henderson wrote: >>> >DAVE ANDERSON: >>> >From here on, should probably read Amon D||l (UK). >> Thought about that - is that what it says on the albums? > >I only have the one below, and it is credited to simply "Amon Duul" (with the >umlauts, of course). But AD fans call this Amon Duul (UK), as Keith said. Since there already was an Amon Duul once before, of course. I'm leaving out the umlauts this time, 'cause apparently some folks' e-mail browsers can't handle them. >>> > 1985 Amon D||l 2 (_Meetings with Menmachines, Inglorious Heroes of >>> the Past_); > >It's actually called "Meetings with Menmachines Unremarkable Heroes of the >Past" (no punctuation). It was recorded during the summer of 82. Not my copy. Mine's 'Inglorious' just as Jon has it. God, I hate Julie Waring's voice. :) >>> > 1997 Tim Blake (_Red Shift_); >>> Wot's this? >> Not sure - I only saw it mentioned on here, and there was >>confusion between it, someone else's album of this name, and Harvey's _Red >>Chaos_ which all came out at the same time, so I may have misread, or >>read someone else who had... > >Harvey's got 2 solos out, _Interstellar Chaos_ and _Red Shift_ (I think). I think there were three "Red Shift"'s all coming out at the same time. Harvey's, Omnia Opera's, and one more that I can't remember. I'm pretty sure Blake doesn't have one of his own, though it's possible he's on one of these other three. (Not Omnia Opera though.) Grakkl (FAA) From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Apr 19 19:40:19 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:40:19 EDT Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: domo arigato, minna, this xchange was fun! "<>" In a message dated 4/19/00 5:13:54 PM, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: << wrote: >On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: >> In a message dated 4/19/00 1:53:58 PM, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: >> >> << >GINGER BAKER: ex-Atomic Rooster, >> >> ====== >> you _sure_ suh? >> >> they were the band carl palmer left to become 1/3 of elp, around the time of >> baker's air force...hhmmmm.... > > So _The Great Rock Discography_ insists, though it fails to list >him in the Rooster entry anywhere. 'The Great Rock Discography' by M.C. Strong? That book is so ridiculously riddled with stupid errors (some of which are apparently intentional to discourage copyright violation) that I consider it fairly worthless as a serious, reliable reference. There's at least one mistake in damn near every single entry. I've been tempted to make a list of all the mistakes, but I have other things that I need to do during the next three years. If it says that Ginger Baker was in Atomic Rooster, it's a pretty safe assumption that he WASN'T. -Doug ceres at sirius.com >> From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Apr 19 19:43:08 2000 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 16:43:08 PDT Subject: Miscellaneous Debris (Not Primus) Message-ID: HAWKWIND-FAMILY TREE New recording from long running space rock act, featuring solo tracks by the members of the current incarnation. HAWKWIND-LIVE NOTTINGHAM 2 CD set of two live shows with a total running time of over 3 hours. CD 2 features special guest and former band-member Simon House, playing old & new classics. Could someone please share some more info regarding the 2 releases listed above or at least post a link? Thanx in advance ") Also, thanx for sharing the historical info on Jethro Tull. I find that very interesting, since I spent a good part of my childhood helping my grandfather on his farm. When he was young, he farmed utilizing the methods outlined. A bit ironic that Ian Anderson is now a "fish farmer". Someone not mentioned on the guest appearances etc. was: Marc Sperhawk - Some People Never Die (bass) from Church of Hawkwind Wasn't Marc the fellow that Dave sold his guitar to?? Also, who is "Madam X"? The book "Rock Record" by Terry Hounsome and Tim Chambre, lists Dave Brock playing on Iggy Pop - New Values (1979) Michael Moorcock - New World's Fair Steve Gilmore(G); Debi Ross(V); Simon House(VLN); Simon King(D); Alan Powell(D); Brock(G); Snowy White(G); Kuma Harada(B); Pete Pavili (cello); Hubert North(G); Graham Charnock(G); Shirley Roden(V) Velocity: 25,000 feet/second D-Rider (Darrin) np: The Spacious Mind - Cosmic Minds At Play ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Wed Apr 19 20:03:42 2000 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:03:42 -0700 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: > >KEITH HALE: > (joins Hawkwind 1980; leaves Hawkwind 1980). > Here's the stuff on Keith Hale, from a discography. Unfortunately it didn't list dates, so I've tried to find them as best I can. Apparently Ginger dubbed Hale 'Jasper Fish' while they were together in Hawkwind..... scorch Comus: 1970? albums: To Keep From Crying Blood Donor: 1977 singles: Rubber Revolution Rice Harvest Soapbox Blues / Dr. Who? Toyah: singles/eps: Victims of the Riddle 1979 Four From Toyah 1981 albums: Sheep Farming In Barnet 1979 Anthem 1981 Warrior Rock - Toyah on Tour 1982 Mayhem 1977 Toyah Toyah Toyah 1980 Hawkwind 1980/81 albums: Zones Stonehenge Ginger Baker 1981 albums: Ginger Baker In Concert Space Cadets 1988 albums: Space Cadets Jasper Fish & the Alice Band 1995- albums: Around The Room In 80 Days 1998 Night of the Long Knives 1999 From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Apr 19 20:44:22 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 01:44:22 +0100 Subject: Miscellaneous Debris (Not Primus) Message-ID: Iggy Pop ...Dave B has denied this. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Darrin McKeehen To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 20 April 2000 00:44 Subject: Miscellaneous Debris (Not Primus) >HAWKWIND-FAMILY TREE >New recording from long running space rock act, featuring solo tracks by the >members of the current incarnation. > >HAWKWIND-LIVE NOTTINGHAM 2 CD set of two live shows with a total running >time of over 3 hours. CD 2 features special guest and former band-member >Simon House, playing old & new classics. > >Could someone please share some more info regarding the 2 releases listed >above or at least post a link? Thanx in advance ") > >Also, thanx for sharing the historical info on Jethro Tull. I find that very >interesting, since I spent a good part of my childhood helping my >grandfather on his farm. When he was young, he farmed utilizing the methods >outlined. A bit ironic that Ian Anderson is now a "fish farmer". > >Someone not mentioned on the guest appearances etc. was: > >Marc Sperhawk - Some People Never Die (bass) from Church of Hawkwind > >Wasn't Marc the fellow that Dave sold his guitar to?? > >Also, who is "Madam X"? > >The book "Rock Record" by Terry Hounsome and Tim Chambre, lists Dave Brock >playing on Iggy Pop - New Values (1979) > >Michael Moorcock - New World's Fair >Steve Gilmore(G); Debi Ross(V); Simon House(VLN); Simon King(D); Alan >Powell(D); Brock(G); Snowy White(G); Kuma Harada(B); Pete Pavili (cello); >Hubert North(G); Graham Charnock(G); Shirley Roden(V) > >Velocity: 25,000 feet/second > >D-Rider >(Darrin) > >np: The Spacious Mind - Cosmic Minds At Play >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Apr 19 21:21:40 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 21:21:40 EDT Subject: Miscellaneous Debris (Not Primus) Message-ID: In a message dated 4/19/00 7:44:33 PM, dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM writes: << The book "Rock Record" by Terry Hounsome and Tim Chambre, lists Dave Brock playing on Iggy Pop - New Values (1979) >> ======= offhand, i doubt it. would like to know, more specifically, please. "<>" From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Apr 19 21:19:33 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:19:33 -0700 Subject: OFF: HW: wanna MP3 ... ? Message-ID: ... of Go Commando, one of the bands I'm in, performing (an abridged version, since our arrangement leaves out the bridge, of) "Psi Power" at a show last friday in San Francisco? It's a boombox recording, so if you can't handle 'Text of Festival' or 'Glastonbury 90', best not to request it (at least there are no barking dogs!). It runs about 3.5M, so hopefully your ISP will handle it OK. If you're interested, send me a private Email and I'll send out the MP3 as an Email attachment around this time tomorrow (5PM-ish PST). And if there is interest, I'll do the same next week with the version of "Evil Rock" that my other band, Dogbreath, are going to open our saturday show in Oakland with. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Thu Apr 20 00:16:54 2000 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 20:16:54 -0800 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:14:16 K Henderson wrote: >Marshall said... >>On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 20:50:08 Jon Jarrett wrote: >>>On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, K Henderson wrote: >>>> >DAVE ANDERSON: >>>> > 1985 Amon D||l 2 (_Meetings with Menmachines, Inglorious Heroes of >>>> the Past_); >>It's actually called "Meetings with Menmachines Unremarkable Heroes of the >>Past" (no punctuation). It was recorded during the summer of 82. >Not my copy. Mine's 'Inglorious' just as Jon has it. No kidding? I have the Spalax digipak version, and I'm pretty certain it's "unremarkable". Don't have it with me right now, but I'd stake several of my in-laws on it. >God, I hate Julie >Waring's voice. :) The entire CD is pretty worthless, IMO. Fans of classic AD2 material need not apply. >>>> > 1997 Tim Blake (_Red Shift_); >I think there were three "Red Shift"'s all coming out at the same time. >Harvey's, Omnia Opera's, and one more that I can't remember. I'm pretty >sure Blake doesn't have one of his own, though it's possible he's on one of >these other three. (Not Omnia Opera though.) Perhaps the 3rd was the self-titled release by the band Redshift, featuring Mark Shreeve? That one is like TD's Rubycon, take 2. Great stuff. MWood --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Before you buy. From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Apr 20 03:26:37 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:26:37 +0100 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > >>It's actually called "Meetings with Menmachines Unremarkable > Heroes of the > >>Past" (no punctuation). It was recorded during the summer of 82. > >Not my copy. Mine's 'Inglorious' just as Jon has it. > > No kidding? I have the Spalax digipak version, and I'm pretty > certain it's "unremarkable". Don't have it with me right now, > but I'd stake several of my in-laws on it. Both exist. "Unremarkable" is, I think, the more common. And possibly more appropriate. ;) -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Thu Apr 20 04:18:54 2000 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:18:54 +0100 Subject: HW: Lemmy on the Telly Message-ID: Morning Guys, Caught the last 30 seconds of Jo Wileys show last night during which brief period she listed the guests for the show next week, Wednesday 26th (probably about 11:30PM, the one which caught my attention and will subsequently cause me to view was "Lemmy", at which point her eyebrows lifted heavenwards ! Cheers, Mark (Hasbeen) From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Thu Apr 20 04:41:50 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:41:50 +0100 Subject: HW: The Golden Void Message-ID: Picked up a copy of the "Golden Void" bootleg and wondered whether the line up and date could be confirmed. The sleeve claims Brock/Bainbridge/Lloyd-Langton/Griffin/Turner at the Glasgow Apollo 1982. I tried to hear myself in the audience but couldn't make myself out:-) Stuart NP: Thin Lizzy - The Irish Dawn ( live 1976 bootleg) Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Thu Apr 20 05:16:10 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:16:10 +0100 Subject: HW: Record Collector Message-ID: As well as Hawkwind moving up 5 places from No 31 to No 26 in this years Top 500 collectable artists, RC also review Complete 79 and Glastonbury 90. Stuart NP Thin Lizzy - The Irish Dawn (live 1976 bootleg) Blessings and peace from Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Apr 20 07:00:59 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:00:59 +0100 Subject: Help - info on Hawkwind singles? In-Reply-To: Miikka Wagner's message of Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:22:16 +0300 Message-ID: Miikka Wagner writes: > >> Also Rob Godwin's collectors book lists the "Who's Gonna Win The War?" > >> 7" on Bronze as having appeared with both a green label and a silver > >> one. Has anyone seen the silver one? > > > >I've got two different copies - but one with a green label, and one with the > >regular Bronze "evolution" label. (This is back when I used to kollekt.) > > I?m pretty sure that silver one is mistake, should be cream. > Hey, listen both singles (green and cream labels) and find out that Who?s > gonna.. songs ends are different. The man is correct. The rerelease has a 10 second chorus edited out from the song. Codex amended accordingly. FoFP From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Apr 20 10:25:14 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:25:14 -0400 Subject: OFF: Circle Message-ID: Hi Folks... I don't know how many folks here know about these Finnish guys, but they're one of my favorite current groups. I think 'post-rock' is the closest categorization, but if you like a mix of D?sseldorfian-motorik rhythms but with a harder-driving pseudo-industrial edge, and a taste of spooky, dark weirdness, then that's pretty much what you get. :) Really, it's wonderful. Anyway, it was posted here recently that Metamorphos, the Finnish space-rock-friendly label, went bellyup and put the kibosh on the Dark Sun/Nik release. But Circle's latest "Andexelt" *did* actually get released on Metamorphos (META-025 CD). And I just learned that tonight (!), they're playing at the Tavastia in Helsinki supporting Faust (!). I suppose that anyone in Helsinki already knows about this, and it's too late if you're *not* in Helsinki. :) I've also discovered that Jussi has his own site now for 'ektro' records (for Ektroverde, the Circle spinoff) at... http://www.uta.fi/~tmjuleh/ Also, I see on the old site this notice. Doug, you know these folks? And can you tell us anything more about it? Like who these other bands are... >'Paint It Black', a compilation with Circle and Mieskuoro Huutajat is coming >out in the USA by tUMULt in January. Other participants are Acid Mother's >Temple, Stilluppsteypa, Amp, Melt Banana, and many more. >Contact: tUMULt, P.O. Box 642371 San Francisco, CA. 94164-2371 >www.tumult.net > >Also hopefully in 2000, a picture disc 12" from Circle sees daylight by the >very same label. From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Thu Apr 20 11:51:48 2000 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:51:48 -0400 Subject: Anubian Lights Message-ID: Anubian Lights is playing this Sunday at Spaceland, in Los Angeles Ca. They always put on a great show. I may video tape it also. You can check out www.clubspaceland.com directions. Anyone else interested in going? Dr. Dan From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Thu Apr 20 12:13:46 2000 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve P.) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 17:13:46 +0100 Subject: OFF: Circle In-Reply-To: <200004201520.LAA02388@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:25:14 -0400, you sent through the ether: >I don't know how many folks here know about these Finnish guys, but they're >one of my favorite current groups. Nothing to do with Circle, but do you know "Motorpsycho"? I just saw them last week in London and they were awesome.. I checked their website and they used to play "You Shouldn`t Do That".. so there`s the Hawkwind connection.. :) Picked up their new album too, "Let the eat cake" ..Highly recommended. :) -S. From micci at SCI.FI Thu Apr 20 12:48:58 2000 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:48:58 +0300 Subject: OFF: Circle Message-ID: Hi Folks... >And I just learned that tonight (!), they're playing at the Tavastia in >Helsinki supporting Faust (!). I suppose that anyone in Helsinki already >knows about this, and it's too late if you're *not* in Helsinki. :) Yeah, I will be there! >I've also discovered that Jussi has his own site now for 'ektro' records >(for Ektroverde, the Circle spinoff) at... > >http://www.uta.fi/~tmjuleh/ Ektroverde is good. I have two albums NP:Circle-Pori (town in finland and circles?home town.) Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From micci at SCI.FI Thu Apr 20 12:49:05 2000 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:49:05 +0300 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: >NIK TURNER: > forthcoming Nik Turner's Fantastic All-Stars (_Kubano Kickasso_); This is already out in cassette format. Nik sell it to me last summer. > forthcoming Dark Sun (_Ice Ritual_); > forthcoming The Moor & Nik Turner (_?_); Flux? >THOMAS CRIMBLE: > (joins Hawkwind 1970; leaves Hawkwind 1970); > guest with Hawkwind 1971; > [lots I'm sure, but I don't know any]. Skin Alley- To Pagham and Beyond >RICHARD CHADWICK: > (joins Hawkwind 1989); > 1990 Dr. Technical & the Hawks (_The Never-Ending Story of the >Psychedelic Warlords_); > 1995 Psychedelic Warlords (_White Zone_); > 1999 Whirlwind; > 2000 ?; > forthcoming Psychedelic Warlords (_Volume 2_); > forthcoming Richard Chadwick (tracks on_Hawkwind Family Tree_). also SMART PILS -NO GOOD NO EVIL Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Apr 20 11:38:39 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:38:39 -0400 Subject: OFF: SETI Message-ID: FYI...Grakkl (FAA) Search for Alien Life Gets Boost, William Schiffmann, AP Writer LAFAYETTE, Calif. (AP) -- With a whir of electric motors, seven satellite dishes swung as one Wednesday, pointing blindly into space in the first demonstration of technology scientists hope will let them eavesdrop on intelligent civilizations thousands of light-years in space. The dishes are the prototype of what is being called the One Hectare Telescope, a joint project of the SETI Institute -- for Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence -- and the University of California, Berkeley. By 2005, the project could include as many as 1,000 of the 6-meter dishes on 2 1/2 acres near Mount Lassen in the rugged hills of Northern California. The dishes, synchronized to shift together, will collect signals from space. The price tag is a relative pittance as scientific endeavors go. At a news conference in the wooded hills above this wealthy enclave 25 miles east of San Francisco, the institute's executive director, Thomas Pierson, set the bill at about $25 million. ``We've always wondered as a human species -- are we alone?'' he said. So how do the dishes do their job? While optical telescopes use mirrors or lenses to collect light to create a visible image, a radio telescope focuses faint radio waves onto a receiver, much like the one in your stereo system, which amplifies them so they are detectable. ``We want to build for the first time, an instrument that takes hundreds of commercial satellite dishes and build one of the largest radio telescopes in the world,'' said Dr. Leo Blitz, director of the UC Berkeley Radio Astronomy Laboratory. ''(If we succeed) we will have made one of the major discoveries of the common era, or we will find out how alone we really are. In either case, we will have succeeded in learning something important about our place in the universe,'' he said. Plans first call for a look at 1,000 relatively close stars similar to our sun, then the project will move on to peer first at 100,000 and then a million sun-like stars in the Milky Way. The project began 40 years ago, and for many years was funded through NASA. But in 1993, Congress cut the cash flow and SETI has been financed privately ever since. The seven dishes, which were shown to the public for the first time Wednesday, won't be searching the heavens in earnest. Instead, they will be used to solve a variety of scientific and technical challenges linked to what scientists called the ``back end'' of the telescope. That includes developing methods for dealing with interference, especially from orbiting satellites. Also under study will be the drive systems that aim the dishes, the software that directs the drives and early versions of a device called the digital beamformer, which will allow the telescope to observe multiple stars and other radio astronomical sources at the same time. Once completed, the telescope will be the largest array in the world dedicated solely to searching for signs of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe. It will be comparable to the Very Large Array in New Mexico, the world's premier instrument for radio astronomy. By adding additional dishes, the telescope can be easily and economically expanded. Dr. Jill C. Tartar, director of SETI research and the inspiration for the Jodie Foster character in the movie ``Contact,'' was delighted as the dishes were demonstrated. ``We just can't wait to get started,'' she said. From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Thu Apr 20 18:48:43 2000 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 18:48:43 BST Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: Jon wrote: > >HUW LLOYD LANGTON: > > He also played with Leo Sayer at one point in his career. > > Got nothing on that... Anyone? > Huw states in an interview (Crohinga Well#11) that he had a 'short stint' with Leo Sayer's band. The artical also says he appeared with the band on the 'Russel Harty Show' on TV in '75. Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Apr 20 14:04:04 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:04:04 +0100 Subject: HW: spin-offs list Message-ID: Hi folks, chasing some stuff up (thanks for all the help by the way), I find a Deviants album I wot not of called _Partial Recall_, and also _Fragments of Broken Probes_ - am I correct in thinking that these are both bits and pieces comps.? If so has anyone got dates and lineups for the tracks? And if they're actual albums, could someone let me know? www.allmusic.com doesn't truck with such fine detail... Thanks, yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Thu Apr 20 14:11:23 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 13:11:23 -0500 Subject: Off:HW: spin-offs list Message-ID: Fragments of broken probes; 16 tracks 1968-1996 4 tracks are outtakes, or live; thats were the trouble started, I want to be called loretta, waiting for the ice cream to melt, half price drinks. I like the cd myself. dan Jon Jarrett wrote: > > Hi folks, > chasing some stuff up (thanks for all the help by the > way), I find a Deviants album I wot not of called _Partial Recall_, and > also _Fragments of Broken Probes_ - am I correct in thinking that these > are both bits and pieces comps.? If so has anyone got dates and lineups > for the tracks? And if they're actual albums, could someone let me > know? www.allmusic.com doesn't truck with such fine detail... Thanks, > yours, > Jon > > -- > | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | > | ======================================================================| > | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | > | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Apr 20 14:10:40 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:10:40 -0700 Subject: BOC: live in ny/'72 uh...what IS this? Message-ID: I just got a note from a friend of mine who works at a record distributor out here in San Francisco. He says they just received their shipment from Munster Records, which includes the BOC live '72 EP in both CD and 10" formats. I should be able to get some of these at wholesale prices, so send me a private Email if you're interested in getting a copy (and let me know which format)... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Apr 20 14:23:45 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:23:45 -0700 Subject: HW: spin-offs list Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:04:04 +0100, Jon Jarrett wrote: > chasing some stuff up (thanks for all the help by the >way), I find a Deviants album I wot not of called _Partial Recall_, and >also _Fragments of Broken Probes_ - am I correct in thinking that these >are both bits and pieces comps.? If so has anyone got dates and lineups >for the tracks? And if they're actual albums, could someone let me >know? Those are both compilations (on the very cool Captain Trip label, out of Japan) of both previously-released and previously-unreleased Deviants/Farren material. I *think* that the only tracks relavent to the Hawkwind spinoffs list would be the four that originally appeared on the Deviants' 1977 Stiff Records 7"EP, 'Screwed Up', which has Paul Rudolph and Alan Powell on it. The tracks in question would be "Screwed Up", "Let's Loot The Supermarket (Again Like We Did Last Summer)", "Shock Horror (Probe Looming)", and one other that I can't remember (and it's driving me crazy right now!). Or is Lemmy also on the Ork Records "Lost Johnny"/"Play With Fire" 7" recorded in NYC? Sorry I'm not at home with my record collection in front of me, so please pardon any inaccuracies! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Apr 20 15:25:14 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:25:14 +0100 Subject: HW: spin-offs list In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000420112345.0099b4d0@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: > Those are both compilations (on the very cool Captain Trip label, out of > Japan) of both previously-released and previously-unreleased > Deviants/Farren material. I *think* that the only tracks relavent to the > Hawkwind spinoffs list would be the four that originally appeared on the > Deviants' 1977 Stiff Records 7"EP, 'Screwed Up', which has Paul > Rudolph and > Alan Powell on it. The tracks in question would be "Screwed Up", "Let's > Loot The Supermarket (Again Like We Did Last Summer)", "Shock > Horror (Probe > Looming)", and one other that I can't remember (and it's driving me crazy > right now!). Outrageous Contagious. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Apr 20 15:39:48 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:39:48 EDT Subject: OFF: Anubian Lights Message-ID: In a message dated 4/20/00 8:55:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM writes: > Anubian Lights is playing this Sunday at Spaceland, in Los Angeles Ca. > They always put on a great show. I may video tape it also. > > You can check out www.clubspaceland.com > directions. > > Anyone else interested in going? > > Dr. Dan I'll be there, Dan. Chuck From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Apr 20 15:22:32 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:22:32 +0100 Subject: OFF - Agriculture Message-ID: How's about you have Baron and Chadwick carrying Richards horizontally, who can point his axe down. Thus as they move forwards the neck and head cutting through the soil making a furrow. Then you can have Tree walking (Ent?) behind dropping............ seeds into the furrow. Then Rizz can coming a boogying an a dancing behind thus pressing the seeds firmly into the ground. HA - match that for efficiency you BOCers! Tim From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Apr 20 15:49:59 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:49:59 +0100 Subject: OFF: Motorpsycho Message-ID: >do you know "Motorpsycho"? Yup. Like them very much. Sort of Pop/prog crossover I'd call them. T From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Thu Apr 20 15:33:25 2000 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:33:25 -0400 Subject: OFF: Napster in the news In-Reply-To: <50.42c2c1f.262d8b1b@aol.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 05:55:39AM -0400, DASLUD at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 4/18/00 5:46:29 AM, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: > > << > Is there some reason why rock musicians shouldn't be paid for their > work, whatever its artistic merits? > >> > ====== > that was not of which i wrote. > i wasnt expecting such _posturing_ from a member of metallica. > > any guesses as to what they "lost" via napster? > wanna count it in pennies? Actually, Metallica is not an example of a band who is being cheated of its bread and butter by Napster. If you want to know a band that's getting raped, think of Stroke 9, whose Little Black Backpack is genuine college radio sensation, but who are being traded like mad on Napster, rather than making CD sales. I toyed with Napster for a couple of hours, before I decided that it was the worst case of mass piracy in action I had ever seen. Napster has no economic model by which artists will ever get paid. It's just outright theft of copyrighted materials. I posted a much fuller description of my experience with it (and why I decided that it was thoroughly evil), but that appears to have been during a time when the list software was fucked up, so the post disappeared into the void. I didn't retain a copy before sending. Sigh. Steve From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Apr 20 16:56:03 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 16:56:03 -0400 Subject: BOC: MFSL _BOC/T&M_ deleted? Message-ID: I just got back a notice from CDNow saying they'd cancelled my order for the MFSL remaster of _BOC/Tyranny & Mutation_ because it has now been deleted from their catalogue (this was after the order languishing in "backorder" status for ~2 weeks or so). So, I'm assuming that with the demise of MFSL, that album (and the _Agents of Fortune_ MFSL remaster) can now be considered deleted. Get 'em while you can! Happy 4/20, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Apr 21 01:02:44 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 22:02:44 -0700 Subject: HW - it's getting like rifle-fire Message-ID: Hi chaps and chapesses, Been away in my homne town securing publicity for the Krel gig (and I'm on the radio the night before if you are in the Midlands area) at Sainsburys, so not been in touch and catching up. ------------------------------- OK.....someone posted this: HAWKWIND-FAMILY TREE New recording from long running space rock act, featuring solo tracks by the members of the current incarnation. (Actually Dave confirmed that this would follow the 'Atomhenge' on this very group a while back but the label aren't admitting to its release just yet) HAWKWIND-LIVE NOTTINGHAM 2 CD set of two live shows with a total running time of over 3 hours. CD 2 features special guest and former band-member Simon House, playing old & new classics. (Like the rest of the Collectors Series, still no date and this was meant to be the last in the series, and we haven't even had the third one yet, 5 months down the line!!!) Just saw these 2 titles listed and I am not up to speed on what there are......... Reviews? Track lists? Label? Unbiased opinions? (How - even the label doesn't seem to have any info, at least as of a couple of weeks ago) Who's got the best price? (Not for me to say but CD Services will have a load knocked off for pre-orders that's for sure, but no point on pre-orders without a release date) Andy G, let it rip! (Already am, squire) Thanx! (in advance") ------------------------------ Well, as I said on a previous e.mail, since the label listed their plans for the next ten or so releases in the collectors series on paper, it's been a field day for anyone anywhere to advertise any one or all of the releases, regardless of what is coming out and when, to try and get your orders in with them before anyone else. But as of 2 weeks ago, the label confirmed that the next release would be the 'Atomhenge Live '76' double CD, now put back to June, and that nothing else was on the schedule - this despite, now five of the other releases being pre-advertised by various outlets (even we did it at first, but dropped it all when we realised the release schedule was turning into an endurance course!!!). But I will call the label next week and see what's happening - stay posted. Andy Garibaldi. From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Thu Apr 20 21:52:24 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 21:52:24 -0400 Subject: Robert McConnel leaves Sloterdijk touring lineup Message-ID: Despite a very successul debut performance with Sloterdijk in Philadelphia, April 15th, sources within the project indicate the Robert McConnel will not be returning during the U.S. summer tour dates, which will begin with The Mandelbrot Sets in Hartford Ct. June 30th. McConnel who shares songwriting credits with Jay Adcock and Mike Burro on the new piece entitiled "cryogenics", will likely continue working with Adcock on an as yet undisclosed body of work. It is assumed that he desires an outlet for his own work, and that Sloterdijk does not allow enough room for the type of material he is creating. Although an initial suprise, McConnel's departure is an amicable one, and "cryogenics" will appear ( along with his performance) on the soon to be released "Integration" CD. Jay Adcock will remain with the project, and will appear at all U.S. dates. "Sloterdijk will continue to evolve as it has been doing. Each player brings something unique and different to the project, and so I appreciate what bob did. I felt he played very well, and I enjoyed having him with us. I feel that his contributions led to the creation of a great new piece (cryogenics), and so I suppose, things are working as they should be. Bob is a very talented guy, but really has a passion for Heavy Metal. He has writtten alot of material which could never become part of Sloterdijk, so I appreciate his drive to do his own thing, though I have only heard of his departure second hand "Right now I have european dates to worry about..digitally recreating many of the old loops, etc, upating etc. I enjoyed the philly show, but I haven't the time to speculate about what bob will do". Jay is still within the fold, and contributing more diversly than ever, so everything looks good from here". Mike Burro http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Apr 21 03:07:35 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:07:35 +1000 Subject: HW: 1975 Hawkwind Parody Message-ID: This just sprang to mind, though I'e had the album forever... Does anyone remember, or is anyone else familiar with the Hawkwind parody on Alberto Y Lost Trios Paranoias first (ST) album, in 1975? It's actually a huge, sprawling track called 'Mandrax Sunset Variations pts I, II & III', which is a general send up of progressive rock, but tends to concentrate most recongisably on Hawkwind and Floyd (the album is also dedicated 'to Pink Floyd, 'for reminding us that music could be funny'.) The vocals start with this space-ritualized declaration over synth doodling... "This is your captain speaking This is your captain speaking You're captain is knackered You are requested to immediately go to the shelters Forget the sick and the infirm the sick and the infirm infirm infirm When you are inside the shelter, take the yellow pill marked "W" It then proceeds into a Silver Machine send up, whose chorus goes "I've got Venusian crabs" Someone then declaims, in a fairly convincing imitation of Mike Moorcock "As the great timelords sail around the cosmos in their eternal egg-yolk..." There's some babbling here which is a little hard to distinguish, but is in the same vein as above, and definately ontains something about 'the mega-computers of Babylon the Barbarian'. At this point the song dissolves into something that sounds conspicuously like Floyd's 'Echoes' (they do this rather splendidly actually). And there's five more minutes to go, with 'Venusian Crabs' coming in again at the end. Sorry if everyone already knows about this one, but I suppose it's a relatively obscure album. IMO it's a must-have, if for no other reason than it possesses the most garishly kitsch cover artwork of any lp ever released. Be warned though, it was several years ahead of its time in general offensiveness. But if the opening track 'Torture You', (the lyrics are offensive enough, but the liner notes are worse) doesn't stop you dead in your tracks, and if other song titles like 'Dead Meat' and 'Jesus Wept' don't put you off (remembering these are the guys who later invented 'snuff rock'), the album is a delight: a hilarious piss-take on everything 70's (and 60's, since there's a paraody of the Velvet Underground's 'Heroin', re-labelled 'Anadin') "All right, I see the day go by Could this be reality? In my mind my memory Reality... reality... YEAH!" (Mandrax Sunset Variations) -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Apr 21 04:18:54 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:18:54 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 4/15/00 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS FOR WINAMP : 1) Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to hear KUCR. http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your computer. After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program (Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the following http://www.kucr.org:8000 Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up, double click again to reconnect. 4/15/00, 5-7pm 1.Vas Deferens Orchestra--Reverie (Sweat Your Cheeses...) 2.Voco Kesh--Paradise Revisited pt. a (Paradise Revisited) 3.ST-37--Acetone (I Love to Talk...) 4.Chrome--You've Been Duplicated (Half Machine Lip Moves, Chrome Box) 5.Hawkwind--Silver Machine (7", Stasis, etc) 6.Korai Orom--Track #2 (1997) 7.Helios Creed--Television (Planet X) 8.Tone Float--Shangrila Mirage (Musik von...) 9.Irmin Schmidt & Bruno Spoerri--Springlight Rite (Toy Planet) 10.Can--Doko E (Limited Edition, Unlimited Edition) 11.Sundial--Mind Train Jam (Psychedelic Psauna comp) 12.Vibrasonic--Cloudburst (Vibrasonic) 13.Mushroom--On the Corner pt. 2 (Alive and in Full Bloom) 14.Melting Euphoria--Harbour of Infinity (Upon the Solar Winds) 15.Pressurehed--title track (Explaining the Unexplained) 16.Agitation Free--Lailla II (Last) 17.Gong--Master Builder (You) 18.F/i--Space Station (Turn Century Turn comp) Thanks, Chuck From joe.e at TELIA.COM Fri Apr 21 06:02:51 2000 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:02:51 +0200 Subject: Miscellaneous Debris (Not Primus) Message-ID: >The book "Rock Record" by Terry Hounsome and Tim Chambre, lists Dave Brock >playing on Iggy Pop - New Values (1979) Iggy Pop - New Values (Arista Records 7C 062-62699, (C) 1979) crew: Iggy Pop - Vocals Scott Thurston - Guitars/Keyboards/Synthesiser/Harp Jackie Clark - Bass Klaus Kruger - Drums John Harden - Horns David Brock - Strings Earl Shackelford, The Alfono Sisters - Backing Vocals James Williamson - Guitar Horn Arrangements - Scott Thurston, James Williamson String Arrangements - David Brock, James Williamson While listening to the album, I doubt this particular David is equivalent with our Dave. peace, .joe From mel at MVA.U-NET.COM Fri Apr 21 08:42:08 2000 From: mel at MVA.U-NET.COM (Melvyn Vincent) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 13:42:08 +0100 Subject: HW: 1975 Hawkwind Parody - Alberto Y Los Trios Paranois In-Reply-To: <20000421070733.XKBO14975.mta02.mail.mel.aone.net.au@Default> Message-ID: Yes......I actually saw this band twice twice in the mid 70's.The first time was at the Lyceum Ballroom in Portsmouth,England where they were the support act to Curved Air (Sonja Kristina!!!). The Alberto's were a really wild act to watch although musically they left little impression on my memory. Can't remember where I saw them the 2nd time,but the set they did was virtually identical. Melvyn. From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Apr 21 09:34:52 2000 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (IAN ABRAHAMS) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 14:34:52 +0100 Subject: HW: 1975 Hawkwind Parody - Alberto Y Los Trios Paranois Message-ID: Hi Melvyn - See that you have got yourself onto the list. Welcome! Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Melvyn Vincent To: Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 1:42 PM Subject: Re: HW: 1975 Hawkwind Parody - Alberto Y Los Trios Paranois > Yes......I actually saw this band twice twice in the mid 70's.The first > time was at the Lyceum Ballroom in Portsmouth,England where they were the > support act to Curved Air (Sonja Kristina!!!). > The Alberto's were a really wild act to watch although musically they left > little impression on my memory. > Can't remember where I saw them the 2nd time,but the set they did was > virtually identical. > > Melvyn. > From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Apr 21 10:14:54 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 00:14:54 +1000 Subject: HW: 1975 Hawkwind Parody - Alberto Y Los Trios Paranois Message-ID: At 01:42 PM 4/21/00 +0100, Melvyn Vincent wrote: >Yes......I actually saw this band twice twice in the mid 70's.The first >time was at the Lyceum Ballroom in Portsmouth,England where they were the >support act to Curved Air (Sonja Kristina!!!). That seems an unlikely combination - thogh perhaps this was before they turned 'punk' (or started satirizing punk, anyway). Mind you, the Berts on a bill with anyone at all seems a weird combination. >The Alberto's were a really wild act to watch although musically they left >little impression on my memory. Some people might remember them for a minor UK hit from the late 70's called 'Heads down no nonsense mindless boogie', which was an excellant Status Quo parody, containing a couplet I rather like: 'I ain't got no time for intellectual music - e.g. 'Hergest Ridge' Give me a riff that swings like a can of cold beans, and I can boogie like a bitch' -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Apr 21 09:54:25 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 09:54:25 -0400 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: Jon jotted... >> >NIK TURNER: >> > 1997 Alien Planetscapes (`Soft Martian', `Radiation King'); >> >> Huh? Do you mean live at SD'97? I don't think he was on Life on Earth. > > Yeah - he is on those tracks on the SD97 CD isn't he? Or am I >hearing someone else? Well, saxophonist Blaise Siwula was with the band back then, so I suppose it's him. Dr. Synth also plays an 'electronic sax' thing at times, as well as flute. >> >STEVEN MACMANUS (DIK MIK): >> > (original member; leaves Hawkwind 1971); >> > (back to Hawkwind 1971; leaves Hawkwind 1973). >> >> Didn't somebody provide a different surname for Dik Mik? > > S'what me book says... I'm sure we had a discussion about this last year, where there were different suggestions made. 'Cause it was said (repeated not too long ago) that MacManus was the surname of a Brock 'acquaintance.' >> >HUW LLOYD LANGTON: >> >> He also played with Leo Sayer at one point in his career. > > Got nothing on that... Anyone? I think I've read more about this in either Ptolemaic Terrascope or Crohinga Well. From www.huwlloyd-langton.co.uk, I got... 1971 to 1979: Came a variety of gigs. A 2-year acoustic stint in vegetarian London restaurant PASTURES. John Butler DIESEL PARK WEST'S singer joined him for 6 months and Eddy Klima, RATTLES singer for a further year. He taught guitar at a comprehensive school in Streatham for a year and did numerous sessions, one included writing the music for a cartoon, narrated by Viv Stanshall, BONZO DOG DOO DA BAND and 6 months with LEO SAYER touring UK & Europe. Several band situations including working with John Lingwood MANFRED MANN'S long standing Drummer. SALT, with top Austrian artist Bobby Hammer. An LP Huw did with them called 'Best of British Rock' is valued at 5,000 German Schillings as a collectors item. AMON DIN with Dave Anderson AMON DUUL'S bass player. GALLERY with Rob Rawlinson on Bass from Ian Hunters OVERNIGHT ANGELS. MAGILL with Pete Scott from SAVOY BROWN. Huw toured Yugoslavia with ALEXANDER JOHN a music presenter on BBC World Network. Another excellent band was the Trinidadian Band BATTI MAMSELLE, whose music had a strong Latin American influence with lead singer LONDON BEAT'S Jimmy Chambers. >> > 1983 Lloyd Langton Group (`Wind of Change'); >> >> What the heck is this? > > Non-album single from _Outside the Law_ sessions. Oh, I think that should actually be 'Working Time' b/w 'I See You'. These two tracks appear on the HW- Friends & Relations: The Rarities CD on Griffin (1995) GCD-523-2. Or maybe there were both. (?) And would Wind of Change be the same track as on HotMG? And what are these sessions? The album 'Outside the Law' (from what I remember) is 100% poorly-recorded live show. But then this 'Working Time' is obviously a studio track. And then 'I See You' is that crappy live stuff again. Also, there's a studio version of 'Outside the Law' on the other Griffin "F&R" disc (GCD-535-2) that I imagine is from the same session as 'Working Time.' 'Cause it's not the same as that which appeared on Huw's 'On the Move' CD. What's the story here? Did Flicknife intend to release a studio album of Huw's entitled 'Outside the Law,' and then for some reason only a couple tracks were ever recorded, and so they just slapped the name on that lousy recording Huw gave them and just released it? I'm making this up, but it fits the 'evidence.' >> >DAVE ANDERSON: >> >ex-Amon D??l II; >> > (joins Hawkwind 1970; leaves Hawkwind 1971); >> > 1983 Amon D??l 2 (_Hawk Meets Penguin Vol. 1_); >> > 1984 Inner City Unit (_New Anatomy_); >> > 1985 guest with Hawkwind; >> >> >From here on, should probably read Amon D??l (UK). > > Thought about that - is that what it says on the albums? I think the '2' was retained for the Menmachines album (with or without inglorious), but that was rather a stretch. Dropped for later recordings. The UK has been added by those of us who wish to keep the original pre-AD2 entity distinct from this latter hodgepodge of folks using that name. I would say 'totally bogus' but I rather like 'Olaf....where's my 20 grand?'. Is that a VDGG cover? That's what I remember, and Guy Evans was in that lineup, himself ex-VDGG. And some of the Calvert stuff was interesting. >> >MARTIN GRIFFIN >> > (1977-1978 Sonic Assassins, Hawklords); >> > (joins Hawkwind 1978; leaves Hawkwind 1979; back to Hawkwind 1980); >> > (1982 Hawklords); >> > (leaves Hawkwind 1983). >> >> somewhere in here, he was with Richard Strange, ex-Doctors of Madness. And >> appeared on the Live Rise of... at least. > > More details! OK, the album was called... "The Live Rise of Richard Strange" on PVC/Ze Records, Cat. # PVC 7917 (1980). Line-up was: Richard Strange - Vocals, Guitar, Keyboards (?) Sam Williams, Paul Martinez (once of PAL and Robert Plant!), Simon Frazier - Bass Martin Griffin - Drums guest Dave Winthrop - Sax (on Preplay) (Note that 'Preplay' is the same music as 'Work' from F&R II, but the lyrics are completely different, as is the title of course. The sax is pretty much the same IIRC....same guy anyway.) It says on the liner notes that it was a live recording from NYC, and it rather seems like that, but it was undoubtedly recorded over with additional stuff. I doubt they had three bassists on tour then! Terry Hounsome's Rock Record lists this album under the title 'The Phenomenal Rise of...' which is in fact the first song on the album. But it's not a separate entity, 'cause the cat. no. is the same. I don't think MG was ever in Doctors of Madness (Richard known as 'Kid Strange' then), but I'm not the expert on this lot. Somebody here made me a tape of that stuff, so there's someone who can answer this I imagine. >> >KEITH HALE: >> > (joins Hawkwind 1980; leaves Hawkwind 1980). >> >> Didn't he sing Dangerous Visions on Zones? Or is that Hayles? > > That's him, but the actual recording is still from 1980 no matter >what the release date says :-) Oh OK, I was just thinking you were noting on which albums they each appeared on, and I knew he appeared on something. Grakkl (FAA) From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Apr 21 11:40:19 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:40:19 +0100 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. In-Reply-To: <200004211449.KAA05506@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: > >> >HUW LLOYD LANGTON: > > >> > 1983 Lloyd Langton Group (`Wind of Change'); > >> > >> What the heck is this? A not-too-shabby 7", no relation to the HW song of the same name. Came out the same day as "Social Alliance" as I recall. B-side was "Outside the Law" (studio). -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Apr 21 15:47:38 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:47:38 -0700 Subject: BOC: live in ny/'72 uh...what IS this? Message-ID: Arrrgh! Please accept my apologies! I'm only able to obtain this release on 10" vinyl (albeit at a very good wholesale price), as it is NOT out on CD. I'm told that Man's Ruin will be doing the CD release later this year (or, if a Munster CD *does* exist, the distributor my friend works at doesn't have copies - sorry!), so you may just have to wait for the shiny silver version ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 11:10:40 -0700, I incorrectly wrote: >I just got a note from a friend of mine who works at a record distributor >out here in San Francisco. He says they just received their shipment from >Munster Records, which includes the BOC live '72 EP in both CD and 10" >formats... From g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK Fri Apr 21 18:36:47 2000 From: g.m.wright at TINYONLINE.CO.UK (g.m.wright) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:36:47 +0100 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: geoff wright g.m.wright at tinyonline.co.uk -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. >> >>It's actually called "Meetings with Menmachines Unremarkable >> Heroes of the >> >>Past" (no punctuation). It was recorded during the summer of 82. >> >Not my copy. Mine's 'Inglorious' just as Jon has it. >> >> No kidding? I have the Spalax digipak version, and I'm pretty >> certain it's "unremarkable". Don't have it with me right now, >> but I'd stake several of my in-laws on it. > >Both exist. "Unremarkable" is, I think, the more common. And possibly more >appropriate. ;) > "Inglorious" would be the original release on Illuminated records, "unremarkable" Demi Monde records onwards, and yes its not the most memorable album. From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Fri Apr 21 18:34:32 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 18:34:32 EDT Subject: BOC: live in ny/'72 uh...what IS this? Message-ID: a munster cd does exist, I am holding one in my hand. it was my purchase of and curiosity about this disc that prompted me to post the query that started this thread. thank you all for your prompt and informative answers, by the way. that's why we're all here, right? rmayo From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Apr 21 23:38:05 2000 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 22:38:05 -0500 Subject: OFF: Napster/Master of Puppets Message-ID: Hmmm . . . Master of Puppets: In response to threat of legal action Indiana University Thursday re-imposed a ban on music utility Napster. Like Yale, Indiana University was promptly dropped from the lawsuit. In related, but far more absurd news, a start-up Thursday launched paylars.com, a Web site that allows fans to donate money to Metallica to compensate the band for its monetary losses suffered at the hands of digital pirates. http://paylars.com/ -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Apr 22 08:27:28 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:27:28 +0100 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: Dil Mik -Richard Michaels S MacManus -name of Dave Brock's wife, I think -----Original Message----- From: K Henderson To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 21 April 2000 15:57 Subject: Re: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. >> >STEVEN MACMANUS (DIK MIK): >> > (original member; leaves Hawkwind 1971); >> > (back to Hawkwind 1971; leaves Hawkwind 1973). >> >> Didn't somebody provide a different surname for Dik Mik? > > S'what me book says... I >'m sure we had a discussion about this last year, where there were different suggestions made. 'Cause it was said (repeated not too long ago) that MacManus was the surname of a Brock 'acquaintance.' From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Apr 22 13:51:31 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:51:31 -0700 Subject: BOC NY '72 Message-ID: Doug wrote: Arrrgh! Please accept my apologies! I'm only able to obtain this release on 10" vinyl (albeit at a very good wholesale price), as it is NOT out on CD. I'm told that Man's Ruin will be doing the CD release later this year (or, if a Munster CD *does* exist, the distributor my friend works at doesn't have copies - sorry!), so you may just have to wait for the shiny silver version --------------------------- Doug, if I remember rightly, and it's difficult to remember more than a week back up here right now, I started this off about the BOC live NY '72 thing as we'd had the CD in stock at CD Services, assuming we're talking the 4-track live thing (with 'Bucks Boogie' and three others I forget) and not something else. Neat little fold-out digi-pak, too. Andy Garibaldi. From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Sat Apr 22 09:39:48 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:39:48 +1000 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: At 01:27 PM 4/22/00 +0100, david hall wrote: >Dil Mik -Richard Michaels So _that's_ it! One of the great mysteries of the universe revealed at last. Cool. And here was me thinking it might have been something to do with those little African antelopes, or Hawkwind tring to eliminate the letter 'c' for some arcane reason (Dik Mik Nik Kris) -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Apr 22 09:52:23 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 09:52:23 EDT Subject: Fwd: hawkwind, etc./upon her first listen of the "doremi" lp Message-ID: greetings, folx, thot y'all might like to see what my friend diana had to say after hearing the "doremi" lp for the first time. she and her husband put out a punk fanzine called "dumpster dive" [as in, "finding cool stuff in the trash"]. i sent her a tape of that lp a couple weeks ago. Disclaimer for the anti-piracy police: it was a tape i made for myself in 1986, which was very well-preserved....i've got like, 4 tape copies of that lp. that copy was of the original vinyl version. what she refers to as "your band" is das ludicroix, which axually "belongs" to no one/everyone. "<>" =============================== <> which isn't to say that i didn't like your band before. it's just hearing the context of what hawkwind sounds like that makes the difference. i like that heavy bass sound that hawkwind has. i even like it because the songs are long and mostly instrumentals for having in the background -- sometimes hearing the same short pop things gets kind of wearisome after a while. but i could listen to instrumental stuff over and over. >> From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Apr 22 11:08:19 2000 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (IAN ABRAHAMS) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:08:19 +0100 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: What beats me through out this discussion is how the heck some Hawks have made a living over the years. I always imagined some, Huw for instance, doing a *lot* more non-Hawk music than has been identified. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Gadd To: Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2000 2:39 PM Subject: Re: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. > At 01:27 PM 4/22/00 +0100, david hall wrote: > >Dil Mik -Richard Michaels > > > So _that's_ it! One of the great mysteries of the universe revealed at last. > Cool. And here was me thinking it might have been something to do with those > little African antelopes, or Hawkwind tring to eliminate the letter 'c' for > some arcane reason (Dik Mik Nik Kris) > -- > Tim Gadd > Hobart, Tasmania > From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Apr 22 11:59:33 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:59:33 +0100 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. In-Reply-To: <000701bfac6c$98ebd120$32ba883e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: > What beats me through out this discussion is how the heck some Hawks have > made a living over the years. It's called a "day job." E.g., Nik's day job is busking. ;) -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sat Apr 22 12:14:35 2000 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 12:14:35 -0400 Subject: off:5.15 & Nik In-Reply-To: <200004141625.TAA09900@pyyhe.saunalahti.fi> Message-ID: At 19.25 +0300 00-04-14, Miikka Wagner wrote: >Tonight Finnish national TV proudly present 5.15 with Nik Turner gig! Cool! >btw. I don?t have second video, so I can?t make copy. Sorry! Damn! Anyone? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sat Apr 22 05:26:52 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:26:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Wind Of Change Message-ID: Flicknife FLS021 Picture sleeve Wind Of Change b/w Outside The Law Line up Huw, Rob Rawlinson - bass, John Clark - drums Blessings and peace from Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Sat Apr 22 12:30:57 2000 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve P) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 16:30:57 GMT Subject: OFF: Motorpsycho In-Reply-To: <00dc01bfab01$e8759440$5d40883e@timsteph> Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:49:59 +0100, you sent through the ether: >>do you know "Motorpsycho"? > >Yup. Like them very much. Sort of Pop/prog crossover I'd call them. Yeah, exactly that, I like the way they skip from clever 3 minute pop songs with 4 part harmonies to 10 minute 2 chord rifferama.. I only have the latest album any earlier recommendations? -S. From denis at D-RIDER.DE Sat Apr 22 13:11:37 2000 From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 19:11:37 +0200 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. In-Reply-To: <005d01bfac56$3752c740$9b32883e@default> Message-ID: At 13:27 22.04.00 +0100, david hall wrote: >Dil Mik -Richard Michaels That sounds rather convincing to me. But in a German rock-encyclopedia I have, his full name is stated as "Richard Michael Davies". I'm not sure if this correct, however. There are some (minor) errors concerning Hawkwind's history in this book, so it might be possible the info about DikMik's real name is also wrong. cheers and a Happy Easter D+R ObCD: Gong, "Zero To Infinity" -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabha www.d-rider.de From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Apr 22 14:21:17 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:21:17 -0400 Subject: HW: Wind Of Change Message-ID: Stuart says... >Flicknife FLS021 Picture sleeve >Wind Of Change b/w Outside The Law >Line up Huw, Rob Rawlinson - bass, John Clark - drums >Blessings and peace from Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground Oh, well that explains where the studio OtL (on the first Best of F&R disc) came from! But is 'Wind of Change' a cover of the HW track of the same name? And is it studio or that crappy live stuff? And who plays the Simon H. violin melody? I'm gonna have to hear this someday...I guess it doesn't appear on any CD...wonder why it didn't get put on the F&R Rarities thingy? So it looks like three 1983 LLG studio tracks were made then... Outside the Law Working Time Wind of Change (maybe) Wonder why it was never finished? Grakkl (FAA) From sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK Sat Apr 22 16:04:36 2000 From: sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 21:04:36 +0100 Subject: HW: Wind Of Change Message-ID: Subject: Re: HW: Wind Of Change > So it looks like three 1983 LLG studio tracks were made then... > Outside the Law > Working Time > Wind of Change (maybe) Don`t know whether any of this is relevent to this thread (I`ve not been paying enough attention :( ) but from memory(and record sleeves): The first Live LLG album was recorded at the Brentford Red Lion. This was supposed to be Huw`s first solo show. I was lucky enough to be there. It was a great gig. Lot`s of cry`s for `Hurry On Sundown` which I seem to remember Huw played a small teaser from but stoped saying it was Dave`s song and he hadn`t reheased it. He said the band had been working on a few tracks for a studio album. At the show it seemed just about everyone was recording it. I know I did (though my tape disappeared years ago). One guy actually had a `ghetto Blaster` ON the front of the stage and Huw even taked into it when someone said the vocals weren`t loud enough! These tapes apparently went into circulation very quickly and copies reached Huw. Most weren`t that good (in his opinion) and so the first album `Outside The Law` was rush released from his tape on Flickknife (Sharp 15) to try and stop people selling the bad tapes. Included with this album was a free single, (free 001) of `Working Time` b/w `I See You`. The Label lists Huw- Gtr, Vox, J. Clark, M Griffin - Drums, R. Rawlinson - Bass. As there are two drummers listed I presume the tracks are from different sessions. Next came the `Wind Of Change` single (FLS 021) which had `Outside The Law` on the B`side. Sleeve says recorded at Alaska Studios so I presume both are studio versions. Can`t check right now but can later if it`s important. The next LLG release I`ve got is a 12" of `Dreams That Fade Away`/`It`s On Me`. Copyright is 1984 so slightly later then your listing. Personal listed is Bass - Kenny Wilson, Drums/Harmony Vocals - John Clarke, Guitar/Synth Guitar/Vocals - Huw. This was released on Ultra Noise (12 Huw 1). I`m presuming this is also Studio recordings. That`s where I lost track as my local source of HW/etc records closed and it became more difficult to get obscure stuff off the shelf. Hope that`s all of interest. Si By the way, was Harvey`s Almon Mulo noted? He also did a tape for Orbit fanzine which was basically a long (over an hour?) interview on tape with him playing all through in the background and featured a few clips of his earlier bands like Ark. I`ve got it somewhere still. Very interesting. -------------------------------- The Alice Cooper Trivia File -REAL NEW ADDRESS! NOW SEARCHABLE! http://www.alicecoopertrivia.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tindex.html From johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Apr 22 17:59:57 2000 From: johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM (Johnny Firich) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 21:59:57 GMT Subject: OFF: Napster/Master of Puppets Message-ID: >paylars.com, a Web site that allows fans to donate money to Metallica to >compensate the band for its monetary losses suffered at the hands of >digital pirates. this is SICK! I'm never buying another Metallica CD!!! imagine Bolle or someone setting up a 'paybuck.com' or something - to 'compensate' for bootleg sales etc.??!! i am appaled. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK Sat Apr 22 18:41:49 2000 From: sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:41:49 +0100 Subject: OFF: Napster/Master of Puppets Message-ID: Subject: Re: OFF: Napster/Master of Puppets > >paylars.com, a Web site that allows fans to donate money to Metallica to > >compensate the band for its monetary losses suffered at the hands of > >digital pirates. > > this is SICK! I'm never buying another Metallica CD!!! > > imagine Bolle or someone setting up a 'paybuck.com' or something - to > 'compensate' for bootleg sales etc.??!! > > i am appaled. There`s actually a bit more to this then meets the eye if you read the second page of the site: http://www.paylars.com/more_info.asp Doesn`t seem like they`re supporting Metallica after you`ve read that page. Si From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Apr 22 18:48:43 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:48:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: Napster/Master of Puppets In-Reply-To: <20000422215957.94551.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: > >paylars.com, a Web site that allows fans to donate money to Metallica to > >compensate the band for its monetary losses suffered at the hands of > >digital pirates. > > this is SICK! I'm never buying another Metallica CD!!! > > imagine Bolle or someone setting up a 'paybuck.com' or something - to > 'compensate' for bootleg sales etc.??!! Take a look at the site - "not affiliated with Metallica." And read the "about paylars.com" page - they're taking the piss. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Apr 22 18:56:53 2000 From: johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM (Johnny Firich) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 22:56:53 GMT Subject: OFF: Napster/Master of Puppets - I don't get it! Message-ID: I've read it, and I don't get what'r'y'all saying. Haven't slept in 30 hrs. or so, though..... Johnny ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Sun Apr 23 01:59:29 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 15:59:29 +1000 Subject: HW: Wind Of Change Message-ID: >Next came the `Wind Of Change` single (FLS 021) which had `Outside The Law` >on the B`side. Sleeve says recorded at Alaska Studios so I presume both are >studio versions. Can`t check right now but can later if it`s important. Yes they are, from memory. I just sold my copy of it, and don't want to play it, as my stylus is so old I'm not sure it would be a good idea. It's not the same as the HW track. I don't remember anything specifically about it, but for a start the composer credits are to Huw. -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Apr 23 02:38:54 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 02:38:54 EDT Subject: OFF: Napster/Master of Puppets - I don't get it! Message-ID: In a message dated 4/22/00 6:58:20 PM, johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM writes: << I've read it, and I don't get what'r'y'all saying. Haven't slept in 30 hrs. or so, though..... >> ======= really? wow. i havent been to the link, but i'd gotten the impression it was facetious. had lars been the metallica guy whose statement i commented on last week? yeah, that statement was pretty gross, like napster required NATO bombing or sumpin'. == <> == me last week on BOC-L so now the pennies are being contributed/donated in compensation to poor, suffering metallica; that would be the joke,"taking the piss", as mr. gilham said. == <> == me last week on BOC-L "<>" ==== "Sitting on two chairs in the company of knowledgable reasonable persons is more or less possible, - doing same in the company of ravers results in a fall and taking of sides." -lady Kisako in israel '00 From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Apr 21 13:49:32 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 18:49:32 +0100 Subject: HW: 1975 Hawkwind Parody - Alberto Y Los Trios Paranois In-Reply-To: <20000421141452.YIKV14975.mta02.mail.mel.aone.net.au@Default> Message-ID: In message <20000421141452.YIKV14975.mta02.mail.mel.aone.net.au at Default> , Tim Gadd writes >'Heads down no nonsense mindless boogie', "and bang your 'ead on a wall!" -- Jon From Hajo.Steffen at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Apr 23 07:06:51 2000 From: Hajo.Steffen at T-ONLINE.DE (HAJO STEFFEN) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:06:51 +0200 Subject: BOC: Palo Alto Tree structure - >EUROPE Message-ID: Hi Brad, glad to see the fina structure. So please tell me your adress to send the blank CDRs + postage to you - or -for easy doing- do you want me to send only cash (letter) to you? Tell me what you like. Kind regards, HAJO Brad M. Lauchnor schrieb: > Here is the tree structure for the Palo Alto show. Branches contact me or > send me 2 blank discs and return postage. Leafs contact your branch. If > anyone missed out or wants to join we have plenty of room with the branches > or I can burn your discs, just contact me. Brad D. you can come by the house > or I'll loan you the discs to converrt to mini-disc :) > Europe > Branch 1 Steffen Hajo hajo.steffen at t-online.de > > Leaf 1 Stuart Hamilton stuarthamilton at connectfree.co.uk > Leaf 2 Jason Gool imaginos at pavilion.co.uk From wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM Sun Apr 23 06:59:22 2000 From: wilberry at MINDSPRING.COM (Wilma Berry/ and: or / Wesley) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 05:59:22 -0500 Subject: LSD Lyrics Message-ID: ************************************************** Excuse me please, this is off the current topic, but if any one can direct me to "LSD" lyrics from "Electric Teepee" I would thank you and this list. ************************************************** From johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Apr 23 07:11:26 2000 From: johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM (Johnny Firich) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 11:11:26 GMT Subject: OFF: Napster/Master of Puppets - OK, now I get it, but still.... Message-ID: yes, well, I finally got some sleep :) still, thw whole thing is absurd - the exact opposite of the way a (commercially established) band should handle mp3s. IM-not-so-HO it is very arguable that they lost anything at all because of mp3s/cdr's etc. I know a couple of people who have in fact done the opposite - bought some Metallica (in particular) CDs having listened to mp3s of 'sandman', 'unforgiven', and yes - 'astronomy', which I gave them. each person went on to buy at least one CD. (ok, this is more and more OFF) even better with BOC - I got tons of people hooked on BOC using MP3s - more then 10 myself since 'heaven forbid' was released, not to mention their friends, etc! all in all, i am positive MP3s are a fantastic way to promote an artist and they're nowhere near piracy. in any case, it is extremely disappointing that a band i like should sue its fans! hmm.... good I live in Croatia, where there's practically no copyright laws - they can't sue me! (yet) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Apr 23 07:12:04 2000 From: johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM (Johnny Firich) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 11:12:04 GMT Subject: OFF: Napster/Master of Puppets - OK, now I get it, but still.... Message-ID: IM-not-so-HO in my not so humble opinion ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From denis at D-RIDER.DE Sun Apr 23 07:41:47 2000 From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:41:47 +0200 Subject: LSD Lyrics In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.20000423055922.0068a350@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: At 05:59 23.04.00 -0500, Wilma Berry wrote: >Excuse me please, this is off the current >topic, but if any one can direct me to "LSD" >lyrics from "Electric Teepee" I would thank >you and this list. Here they are: >By mere existence - we are elite >Without a body - we are complete >There is no master - we are alone >There is an answer - where we have flown lyrics to all HW-songs can be found on my homepage (url in .sig) cheers D+R ObCD: Gong, "Zero To Infinity" -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabha www.d-rider.de From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sun Apr 23 05:28:17 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:28:17 +0100 Subject: HW: Wind Of Change Message-ID: Both are studio versions (and it's not the HW song). Wind Of Change is credited to Huw, Outside the Law to Marion. Produced by Huw and I O'Higgins Stuart Blessings and peace from Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Apr 23 14:09:16 2000 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 11:09:16 PDT Subject: Metallica SUCKS! Message-ID: Johnny, Finally! I am glad that you spoke up. THANX! I feel the same way. What happened to these jerks? >From '82 - '88 they were one of my favorite bands. Did they loose their focus after Cliff died? Or was it just easier to play like Loverboy? Hetfield actually tries to sing now. What's w/ that? 'Kill em All' set the pace for many Metal wannabe bands. The only other American band in the early '80's that had that crunch was Anthrax, but they could not touch Metallica. The fact that these sellout millionaire hasbens went from eating "bread in hand" sandwiches when they were fighting to make it, to actually accepting donations from kids that probably don't even have the money is completely unthinkable! Lars used to be the president of the Motorhead fan club. Now, I guess he's an "artist". Right about the time that this Napster thing hit, I was having a craving to thrash to Ride the Lightning. Not anymore. Don't waste you breath flaming me on this one. I saw Metallica for the first of 12 times in Feb 1984 w/ Armored Saint and WASP in Detroit at the Royal Oak Music Theatre. I own every release up to and including 'And Justice...' on vinyl and CD. All original releases and some worth some big bucks, now from what I understand. You never heard Metallica on commercial radio back then, until the "black" album came out. That's when I stopped buying any of their stuff. Don't get me wrong there are some good songs on that disc, but it ain't Metallica. >From that point they turned into media darlings and everyone liked them. They were on the cover of every tiny bopper magazine. BLAH, BLAH, BLAH! I did not give up there, but after many years I have decided this bad Diamond Head cover band SUCKS! Let's drop this Napster/ Metallica thread and move back to HAWKWIND! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Apr 23 14:47:32 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:47:32 +0000 Subject: Metallica SUCKS! Message-ID: Darrin McKeehen opined: > Finally! I am glad that you spoke up. THANX! I feel the same way. What > happened to these jerks? Sounds like you got miffed with them because they stopped playing _Kill 'em All_ all the time, became successful, started making lots of money after years "fighting to make it" (isn't that the reward of that exercise??), stopped being the poor starving artist, and now don't have to eat "bread in hand" sandwiches anymore. How sad, too bad, never mind... But, this "Metallica sucks," "how cruel of them," "I won't buy another Metallica CD," sentiment on BOC-L as of late prompts me to ask a question: I was in Best Buy yesterday, and I spotted the DCC remaster of _Master of Puppets_ on the shelf. Has anyone heard this? Is it worth plopping down the ~$27 for? The DCC remaster of Tull's _Aqualung_ is incredible (better than EMI's!), so I know the company can work wonders. _Master of Puppets_ is always an album I considered to have been flawed by its mastering, so I'm wondering if DCC have finally fixed that problem. Anyone have this and care to chime in (privately, if need be)? Cheers, Paul. NP: Fleetwood Mac, _The Complete Blue Horizon Sessions: 1967-1969_ (disc 6) -- e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Apr 23 15:30:26 2000 From: johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM (Johnny Firich) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 19:30:26 GMT Subject: (w / BOC:) Metallica SUCKS! but not like the Bloodhound gang Message-ID: Well, dude, I gotta hand it to you - you trashed them the way I cound only dream about. >Lars used to be the president of the Motorhead fan club. >Now, I guess he's an "artist". really? I didn't know that. >>From that point they turned into media darlings and everyone liked them. >They were on the cover of every tiny bopper magazine. BLAH, BLAH, BLAH! heh - not sure I agree there. I'd say that even on 'Load' there are some pretty 'raw' songs - I'd say that all that happened was they grew up. I don't know if you're a BOC fan ro not, but that same thing can be seen between OYFOOYK and Agents of Fortune. some people like it, some don't (I don't, as you might have guessed :)). I only saw them live once (last year, but then, I was 4 years old in 1986 :), and, again, I wouldn't say they suck (the show was great, w/ Mercyful Fate, Monster Magnet, Marilyn Manson etc.etc.), but they've...changed. I mean, I can actually enjoy, say, "Tuesday's gone", or "Turn the page", but "Master" still kicks way above that. OTOH, wouldn't it suck if they'd done things following the same old patterns over and over again, for some two dozen albums? Same dilemma as with BOC 10 years earlier. BOC changed, 'sold out', and made The Reaper. Metallica sold out and, well... sued its fans. So I'd say they've kinda gone a little too far. Anyway, >Let's drop this Napster/ Metallica thread and move back to HAWKWIND! and BOC! -Johnny ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Sun Apr 23 20:27:19 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:27:19 -0400 Subject: OFF : Re: Metallica SUCKS! (an the usual shuck and jive) In-Reply-To: <39034544.41224487@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: Ah well, Think of Metallica going through the transition from Mirrors toCultosaurus pahse right now. Theyre supposed to be touring again this year w/ a bunch of hep rock bands of the present (what?? I thought rock and roll died in 1981!?!?! > >NP: Fleetwood Mac, _The Complete Blue Horizon Sessions: 1967-1969_ (disc 6) GOooOD box set Mr. Mather. Dem youngsters knew the Blues for a while... such a shame the only radio station I could get on the thruway was playing "Gold Dust Woman"and Aerosmith. But thats besides the point. Fortunately I remembered I had Capn. Lockheed and the starfighters to blast their rafters. In other boxset news, King Crimson's _Great Deceiver_ disctacular collection of live-a-riffic material is orderable at www.disciplineglobalmobile.com when it all comes down it, all we wanna do is kick out the jams Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I'm in a FOUL mood today. Stay outa my way or I'll CRITIQUE YOUR ASS to hell. Just ME, just YOU...a decent song. You wanna see THEM, see THEM. I don't give a ****." - Richard Meltzer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Apr 23 20:49:45 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:49:45 -0400 Subject: OFF : Re: Metallica SUCKS! (an the usual shuck and jive) In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20000423202719.0068b0cc@mail1.wizvax.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 23 Apr 2000, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: => In other boxset news, King Crimson's _Great Deceiver_ disctacular => collection of live-a-riffic material is orderable at => www.disciplineglobalmobile.com Is there anything to entice a fellow who has the original _Great Deceiver_ box set to buy the re-release, e.g., extra material, out-of-this-world remastering, etc.? I love _The Great Deceiver_, but am leery of shelling out for an entire *box set* I already have! :-) BTW, on the erstwhile topic of early Fleetwood Mac, I understand the esteemed Mr. Greenbaum and his Splinter Group begin a UK tour the start of May... Cheers, Paul. NP: Fleetwood Mac, _The Complete Blue Horizon Sessions: 1967-1969_ (disc 4) e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Apr 23 21:59:55 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 21:59:55 -0400 Subject: OFF: Amorphis NA tour Message-ID: Hi Folks... The Finnish psychedelic/metal hybrid band Amorphis are touring the US (and Canada) soon. I love their newest (or do they have another just out?) 'Tuonela' CD on Relapse Records. Their previous effort included a Hawkwind cover, so that makes them cool straight away, eh? Anyway, the sad thing is that they're touring with at least three (and perhaps four) other bands, and so I get the feeling that they may only be on stage for a 'half-length' set (45 minutes or so). So I'm not sure if I'll travel three hours each way to see them this time 'round. (Of course, they're not coming to Columbus). Other than Armored Saint (who I've actually never heard), the other names are unfamiliar, but I gather they're all rather ordinary metal bands. Here are the dates anyway... Wed/May-03 PHILADELPHIA,PA TROC Thu/May-04 WHEATON,MD PHANTASMAGORIA Fri/May-05 BROOKLYN,NY L'AMOUR Sat/May-06 WORCESTER,MA THE PALADIUM Sun/May-07 MONTREAL FOUFOUNES Electriques Mon/May-08 TORONTO REVERB ROOM Tue/May-09 PITTSBURGH,PA CLUB LAGA Wed/May-10 CHICAGO,IL HOUSE OF BLUES Thu/May-11 CINCINNATI,OH ANNIE'S Fri/May-12 CLEVELAND,OH FLYING MACHINE Sat/May-13 DETROIT,MI HARPO's Sun/May-14 MILWAUKEE,WI RAVE BAR Tue/May-16 DENVER,CO BLUEBIRD THEATRE Thu/May-18 SAN FRANCISCO,CA COCODRIE Fri/May-19 LOS ANGELES,CA WHISKEY A GO-GO Sat/May-20 PHOENIX,AZ MASON JAR Sun/May-21 EL PASO,TX E9 NITECLUB Tue/May-23 DALLAS,TX GALAXY Wed/May-24 AUSTIN,TX BACKROOM Where the hell is the 'Flying Machine' in Cleveland? That's a new one! I also see that Cerberus Shoal is also touring. They're a band I've seen mentioned in certain spacerock circles, and wonder if they're any good. Well, are they? :) Grakkl (FAA) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Apr 24 06:00:59 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:00:59 +0100 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. In-Reply-To: <003e01bfaa54$030817a0$4e3c883e@default> Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Apr 2000, david hall wrote: > I think the Andy Anderson time line is: > > Steve Hillage > Sphynx > Steve Hillage A trawl on www.allmusic.com suggests that a stint with Mother Gong belongs in here; > Steve Hillage/ICU > ICU > Hawkwind > Cure > Brilliant? _The Great Rock Discography_ claims he was ex-Brilliant when he joined Hawkwind, but I think that's almost self-evidently wrong - if he was ever a member, though, he either didn't recordor they released more than the one entirely drummer-less album with accompanying single in 1984 that I've been able to find record of > Where is Andy now? Assuming that the jazz trumpeter Allmusic brings up as well is a different bloke, last seen 1990 producing and arranging for a band called Two Bit Thief. Hadn't realised he was so underground. Yea, hadn't realised I have his work on two records. Not a bad drummer. Thanks for help, yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Apr 24 06:45:59 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:45:59 +0100 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. In-Reply-To: <200004211449.KAA05506@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, K Henderson wrote: > >> >HUW LLOYD LANGTON: > >> > >> He also played with Leo Sayer at one point in his career. > > > > Got nothing on that... Anyone? > > I think I've read more about this in either Ptolemaic Terrascope or Crohinga > Well. From www.huwlloyd-langton.co.uk, I got... > > 1971 to 1979: Came a variety of gigs. A 2-year acoustic stint in vegetarian > London restaurant PASTURES. John Butler DIESEL PARK WEST'S singer joined him > for 6 months and Eddy Klima, RATTLES singer for a further year. He taught > guitar at a comprehensive school in Streatham for a year and did numerous > sessions, one included writing the music for a cartoon, narrated by Viv > Stanshall, BONZO DOG DOO DA BAND and 6 months with LEO SAYER touring UK & > Europe. Several band situations including working with John Lingwood > MANFRED MANN'S long standing Drummer. SALT, with top Austrian artist Bobby > Hammer. An LP Huw did with them called 'Best of British Rock' is valued at > 5,000 German Schillings as a collectors item. AMON DIN with Dave Anderson > AMON DUUL'S bass player. GALLERY with Rob Rawlinson on Bass from Ian Hunters > OVERNIGHT ANGELS. MAGILL with Pete Scott from SAVOY BROWN. Huw toured > Yugoslavia with ALEXANDER JOHN a music presenter on BBC World Network. > Another excellent band was the Trinidadian Band BATTI MAMSELLE, whose music > had a strong Latin American influence with lead singer LONDON BEAT'S Jimmy > Chambers. Can anyone put dates to any of that? Particularly the Salt LP, and any of the others that made it onto vinyl? Cheers for your help, yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Apr 24 07:04:44 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:04:44 +0100 Subject: HW/OFF: the spin-offs list Message-ID: ... has now been revised, taking into account the extra details that everyone supplied, as well as the results of a few trawls on www.allmusic.com. Thanks especially to Doug Pearson and Keith Henderson for gutting their record collections in the cause of trivia. I suspect it'll need much more revision, but meanwhile if the current version is of any use to anyone, or indeed the chronological Hawkwind + spin-offs dicography that lies behind it, feel free to mail me for them. I don't claim they're right but they are at least obsessive. They're currently in M$ Word 6.0 format, I'm afraid. If you prefer .rtf or .txt please let me know. Again, many thanks for all your helps, yours, Jon -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Apr 24 07:04:58 2000 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:04:58 PDT Subject: Favorite BOC Releases Message-ID: There's quite a few BOC releases that I really like. In college my friends loved to jam "Fire of Unknown Origin" and "Mirrors". Maybe, because they really liked them or because they just came out on disc at that time. At any rate those 2 releases got me back into BOC. I really liked "Cultasaurous Erectis" when it came out. Black Blade is a cool tune. This prompted me to buy "Secret Treaties" about the same time. Still love that one! I was in 6th grade when "On You Feet or On Your Knees" came out and my buddy Mike only had a few records, so that one got played alot. "Spectres" is another great album. My brother bought "Agents" when it came out, so I got to hear his copy alot and never bought that one. I held out for some time to get the best sounding copy of the first 2 releases, which are 2 of my all time favorite BOC releases EVER. I don't really see any selling out on any of these releases and the band does not keep playing the same stuff over and over. You can find a common thread in the first 3 records and between Mirrors, Fire..and Spectres. I have not bought a newer BOC release for a long time. I have a friend that's a big BOC fan and he advised me against buying Club Ninja etc. I have tried to catch BOC every time that they have come through. I have an untorn ticket for their '97 appearance here. I got hit by a car on that day and just could not make it. NO lie! They are coming to Orlando in a couple weeks and I will be making the drive. I am sure it will be a really good show! Do they play longer than 2 hours these days? Peace, Darrin ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Apr 24 07:19:27 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 07:19:27 EDT Subject: Favorite BOC Releases In-Reply-To: <20000424110458.50388.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On 24 Apr 00, at 4:04, Darrin McKeehen wrote: > > They are coming to Orlando in a couple weeks and I will be making the > drive. I am sure it will be a really good show! > > Do they play longer than 2 hours these days? Don't get me started! I'm going to FL next month, but I'm going to miss the Pensacola show and the Orlando gig! They play about an hour and 50 mins. on a good night. Don't think they've gone over 2 hrs at any of the gigs I've seen these past few years... theo > Peace, > > Darrin > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Apr 24 08:22:07 2000 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:22:07 -0400 Subject: OFF: Amorphis NA tour In-Reply-To: <200004240302.XAA07103@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: At 21.59 -0400 00-04-23, K Henderson wrote: >Sat/May-06 WORCESTER,MA THE PALADIUM Dammit, this has been happening consistently. A band I want to see comes into town, and by chance I'm hundreds or thousands of miles away. (This time it will be Michigan -- not sure whether that's hundreds or thousands, but its too far, anyway!) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk From johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Apr 24 08:55:42 2000 From: johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM (Johnny Firich) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:55:42 GMT Subject: Favorite BOC Releases Message-ID: >he advised me against buying Club Ninja etc. >******************************* - "etc." is very important don not tell me he advised you against buying "Imaginos"?! that would be a crime against humanity!!! also, if you like earlier metallica stuff, you'll probably like "heaven forbid". as for the 'big BOC sellout' - from what I've seen on the Net (my only contact with the BOC world), a lot of early fans (people who originally liked the 1st 3 albums) started disliking BOC after OYFOOYK recieved some favorable critics both in the US and in the UK. and they started to seriously hate them after AOF was (were) released (people like Hubbs in "Stoned Age" :). there's been some King Crimson talk lately - their only album I've got is "In the court..." - that "Epitaph" song is AWESOME! "schizoid man", IMHO, would be much better if his voice sounded normal, you know, with no effects. I also like "I talk to the wind". any suggestions for another King Crimson purchase? anyway, -JOHNNY- ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From mordru at FLITE.NET Mon Apr 24 08:42:34 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:42:34 -0400 Subject: Favorite BOC Releases Message-ID: >They are coming to Orlando in a couple weeks and I will be making the drive. >I am sure it will be a really good show! Info, please.... I haven't caught them since House of Blue in Orlando ayear or two ago (I think it was two), want to make this show... "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Apr 24 09:33:19 2000 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 14:33:19 +0100 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: >> sessions, one included writing the music for a cartoon, narrated by Viv >> Stanshall, BONZO DOG DOO DA BAND I think I've heard of this too, probably from the same place. Anyone know what cartoon it was? Nick From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Apr 24 14:02:04 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 04:02:04 +1000 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: At 02:33 PM 4/24/00 +0100, Nick Lee wrote: >>> sessions, one included writing the music for a cartoon, narrated by Viv >>> Stanshall, BONZO DOG DOO DA BAND > >I think I've heard of this too, probably from the same place. Anyone know >what cartoon it was? Viv did narrate a version of Peter and the Wolf, but unless they dumped Prokofiev's score for something of Huw's, it can't have been that. -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Apr 24 14:06:44 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 04:06:44 +1000 Subject: HW: Flexi? Message-ID: Can anyone suggest to me what sort of animal a 6" Russian single of 'Born to Go' is likely to be? :\ I'm assuming some sort of bootleg flexi-disc thing with half the song missing. -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 24 14:14:38 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:14:38 +0100 Subject: HW: Wind Of Change Message-ID: If I remember correctly Frenchy released the live LP without asking Huw. That's what Huw told me in'85. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Si Halley To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 22 April 2000 21:07 Subject: Re: HW: Wind Of Change >Subject: Re: HW: Wind Of Change > > >> So it looks like three 1983 LLG studio tracks were made then... >> Outside the Law >> Working Time >> Wind of Change (maybe) > >Don`t know whether any of this is relevent to this thread (I`ve not been >paying enough attention :( ) but from memory(and record sleeves): > >The first Live LLG album was recorded at the Brentford Red Lion. This was >supposed to be Huw`s first solo show. I was lucky enough to be there. It was >a great gig. Lot`s of cry`s for `Hurry On Sundown` which I seem to remember >Huw played a small teaser from but stoped saying it was Dave`s song and he >hadn`t reheased it. >He said the band had been working on a few tracks for a studio album. >At the show it seemed just about everyone was recording it. I know I did >(though my tape disappeared years ago). One guy actually had a `ghetto >Blaster` ON the front of the stage and Huw even taked into it when someone >said the vocals weren`t loud enough! >These tapes apparently went into circulation very quickly and copies reached >Huw. Most weren`t that good (in his opinion) and so the first album `Outside >The Law` was rush released from his tape on Flickknife (Sharp 15) to try and >stop people selling the bad tapes. >Included with this album was a free single, (free 001) of `Working Time` b/w >`I See You`. The Label lists Huw- Gtr, Vox, J. Clark, M Griffin - Drums, R. >Rawlinson - Bass. As there are two drummers listed I presume the tracks are >from different sessions. > >Next came the `Wind Of Change` single (FLS 021) which had `Outside The Law` >on the B`side. Sleeve says recorded at Alaska Studios so I presume both are >studio versions. Can`t check right now but can later if it`s important. > >The next LLG release I`ve got is a 12" of `Dreams That Fade Away`/`It`s On >Me`. Copyright is 1984 so slightly later then your listing. Personal listed >is Bass - Kenny Wilson, Drums/Harmony Vocals - John Clarke, Guitar/Synth >Guitar/Vocals - Huw. >This was released on Ultra Noise (12 Huw 1). I`m presuming this is also >Studio recordings. > >That`s where I lost track as my local source of HW/etc records closed and it >became more difficult to get obscure stuff off the shelf. > >Hope that`s all of interest. > >Si > >By the way, was Harvey`s Almon Mulo noted? He also did a tape for Orbit >fanzine which was basically a long (over an hour?) interview on tape with >him playing all through in the background and featured a few clips of his >earlier bands like Ark. I`ve got it somewhere still. Very interesting. > >-------------------------------- >The Alice Cooper Trivia File -REAL NEW ADDRESS! NOW SEARCHABLE! >http://www.alicecoopertrivia.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tindex.html > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 24 14:16:03 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:16:03 +0100 Subject: HW: 1975 Hawkwind Parody - Alberto Y Los Trios Paranois Message-ID: This outfit supported HW on a few shows did they not? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Jon Browne To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 23 April 2000 09:04 Subject: Re: HW: 1975 Hawkwind Parody - Alberto Y Los Trios Paranois >In message <20000421141452.YIKV14975.mta02.mail.mel.aone.net.au at Default> >, Tim Gadd writes >>'Heads down no nonsense mindless boogie', > > "and bang your 'ead on a wall!" >-- >Jon > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 24 14:20:14 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:20:14 +0100 Subject: HW: Flexi? Message-ID: Is it likely to be one of those "postcard" singles of the sort favoured in Poland? Dave -----Original Message----- From: Tim Gadd To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 24 April 2000 19:06 Subject: HW: Flexi? >Can anyone suggest to me what sort of animal a 6" Russian single of 'Born to >Go' is likely to be? :\ I'm assuming some sort of bootleg flexi-disc thing >with half the song missing. > > > >-- >Tim Gadd >Hobart, Tasmania > From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Apr 24 14:35:55 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:35:55 -0700 Subject: BOC NY '72 Message-ID: Ah ... sorry to confuse things ... It appears that the CD version is not being imported into the states since Man's Ruin will be releasing it domestically soon. Since the distributor I can get vinyl copies from distributes Man's Ruin, they would definitely not jeopardize that relationship by carrying the "parallel import" CD version (which is technically illegal in the US anyway; actually, in that case, the vinyl is probably illegal, too, but since - according to my sources - Man's Ruin WON'T be doing vinyl, nobody's gonna care). So ... if you're in the US and want a vinyl copy, Email me. If you're in the US and want a CD, either order it from Andy Garibaldi at CD Services now, or wait a few months and buy the easily-obtainable Man's Ruin version when it comes out. And if you're in Europe, order it from CD Services since it's a European release! -Doug ceres at sirius.com On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:51:31 -0700, ANDREW GARIBALDI wrote: >Doug, if I remember rightly, and it's difficult to remember more than a >week back up here right now, I started this off about the BOC live NY >'72 thing as we'd had the CD in stock at CD Services, assuming we're >talking the 4-track live thing (with 'Bucks Boogie' and three others I >forget) and not something else. Neat little fold-out digi-pak, too. The other three tracks are "Workshop of the Telescopes", "Cities On Flame With Rock and Roll" and "The Red & The Black". From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Apr 24 15:07:08 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 20:07:08 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: HW: Flexi? Message-ID: There are "postcards" which are literally picture postcards covered in a plastic vinyl into which the relevant track has been etched. Myself, I find these extremely attractive and eminently collectable (!) but there seem to be several hundred (maybe even thousands?) of them around so don't be tempted into paying huge prices. I've only ever sourced mine from E. European countries (or at least people here who have got them from there) but it seems that once you have found a contact the supply suddenly becomes neverending! I suspect each buyer is in danger of creating his own market - though I have to admit that I've never seen ANY recent tracks produced as postcards so it could be that production of them was limited to the earlier tracks. However I am also informed that these postcard picture postcards are not the original "postcards". The original "postcards" are a poor quality coloured vinyl semi-rigid flexi much as described below. The interest in them lying more in their social history (made at a time when it was illegal to buy records by bands such as Hawkwind) than in their quality. (Exactly why the supposedly original vinyl version was called a postcard if it wasn't, though, entirely escapes me - but no matter!) Basically though, as far as I know (and somebody please tell me if I'm wrong!) it is impossible to date them exactly so unless somebody knows something I don't there's no way you can tell whether you've got a 1970s one or one that was made last week That being said, I really like the half dozen or so I've got - though I'm not planning to add to them! jill ----- Original Message ----- From: david hall To: Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 7:20 PM Subject: Re: HW: Flexi? > Is it likely to be one of those "postcard" singles of the sort favoured in > Poland? > > Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Gadd > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: 24 April 2000 19:06 > Subject: HW: Flexi? > > > >Can anyone suggest to me what sort of animal a 6" Russian single of 'Born > to > >Go' is likely to be? :\ I'm assuming some sort of bootleg flexi-disc thing > >with half the song missing. > > > > > > > >-- > >Tim Gadd > >Hobart, Tasmania > > > From m.j.crook at TALK21.COM Mon Apr 24 20:59:05 2000 From: m.j.crook at TALK21.COM (Michael Crook) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 20:59:05 BST Subject: HW: 1975 Hawkwind Parody - Alberto Y Los Trios Paranois Message-ID: Dave wrote: > This outfit supported HW on a few shows did they not? > >Dave Yeah they did. There's a Melody Maker review from '75 on the Hawkwind.com site which has a few lines about them. Its in the 'scrapbook' section under 'Punk Masculinity' Mick -------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Mon Apr 24 17:23:04 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 17:23:04 -0400 Subject: BOC: a review of Revolution (and the lack thereof) Message-ID: > Full content for this article includes illustration and photograph. > Source: Rolling Stone, Mar 1, 1984 p53(1). > Title: The revolution by night._(phonorecord reviews) > Author: Errol Somay > Subjects: Sound recordings - Reviews > People: Blue Oyster Cult (music group) >Rev Grade: B >Full Text COPYRIGHT Straight Arrow Publishers Inc. 1984 > >THE REVOLUTION BY NIGHT > >BLUE OYSTER CULT Columbia > >Since 1971, Blue Oyster Cult have been stormtrooping and spell-weaving their >way into the hearts and guts of thousands of loyal fans. With The Revolution >by Night, the band's ninth studio LP, the Cult prove they can still pump it >up, though they may be running more on momentum than inspiration. > >Combining patented BOC pop occultism with Donald "Buck Dharma' Roeser's >incendiary guitar solos, songs like "Feel the Thunder' are heavy-metal >bone-crunchers meant to be played while you're breaking the land-speed record >on your motorcycle. Air-guitar specialists, on the other hand, will be sent >into spasms by the dazzling sonic effects of "Take Me Away.' > >Unfortunately, unlike such earlier Cult efforts as Spectres and Agents of >Fortune, which carefully balanced more diverse, mystically sober tunes with >rude headbanging, The Revolution by Night continues the band's trend toward >heavy reliance on wrenching metalisms. Unfortunate indeed, because "Light >Years of Love,' with its stately synthesizer-guitar harmonies and elegiac >melody, and the mesmerizing "Shooting Shark,' enhanced, oddly enough, by a >relatively restrained (for the genre) sax solo, remind us that Blue Oyster >Cult are capable songwriters at both ends of the rock & roll Richter scale. > >Fair-weather Cult fans be forewarned; as finely crafted as the LP is, The >Revolution by Night is anything but revolutionary. In fact, it could be passed >off as a vintage mid-Seventies release without raising an eyebrow. And other >than the reckless, anthemic chanting of "Let Go,' BOC's latest is also a >little too polished for its own good. Still, few bands mix aesthetics and >ass-kicking rock to such good advantage. So give it a shot, but caveat emptor. > From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Apr 24 18:21:41 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 18:21:41 EDT Subject: OFF: Amorphis NA tour Message-ID: In a message dated 4/24/00 8:23:08 AM, cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK writes: << Sat/May-06 >> === huh? michigan? umm... === oh well. -_- From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Apr 24 18:27:43 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 18:27:43 EDT Subject: OFF: Amorphis NA tour////oops! Message-ID: my apologies, that note wasnt meant for the board. "<>" From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Mon Apr 24 18:39:15 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 18:39:15 EDT Subject: Metallica SUCKS! Message-ID: my 2 cents: metallica was destryed by 2 things: the death of cliff burton, from wich they never recovered. (listen to ...and justice for all and TRY to hear ANY bass guitar. there is NONE.) the loss of dave mustaine's riffs. They ran out after puppets (except one bit on justice) and it's been downhill ever since. since then, their most compelling works have been covers, where they apply their doubtlessly pioneering and vital sound to songs written by others who are more capable. that's it! a done deal for over 10 years. rmayo From dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Apr 24 19:38:23 2000 From: dmckeehen at HOTMAIL.COM (Darrin McKeehen) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 16:38:23 PDT Subject: Captain Beyond Tribute Message-ID: Hey Now! Has anyone picked up a copy of this: TRIBUTE: CAPTAIN BEYOND - THOUSAND DAYS OF YESTERDAYS The seminal '70s hard rockers being paid tribute by Brian Robertson (ex - Thin Lizzy, Motorhead) with Lotus, Nik Turner (ex - Hawkwind) with Five Fifteen, The Quill, Qoph, Locomotive Breath and other top acts. Could someone provide a quick review? Worth getting? Also, Someone mentioned the King Crimson - Great Deceiver Box. This is a must have! I am uncertain if the DGM release is anything different than the '92 release, but if someone is interested in getting the original, Gary Davis at the Artist Shop had some originals, as of last week. Here's a link: Gary Davis Cat Food! Darrin np: moe. 10/9/98 DSBD ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Tue Apr 25 00:58:02 2000 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 23:58:02 -0500 Subject: Metallica SUCKS! Message-ID: "Robert C. Mayo" wrote: > my 2 cents: > metallica was destryed by 2 things: > > the death of cliff burton, from wich they never recovered. (listen to ...and > justice for all and TRY to hear ANY bass guitar. there is NONE.) > > the loss of dave mustaine's riffs. They ran out after puppets (except one bit > on justice) and it's been downhill ever since. since then, their most I didn't know they relied on Mustaine's material so much. His name is only listed on a few of their songs. Did they plunder a stack of music he left behind or something? I love slagging these jerks! From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Apr 25 01:35:52 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:35:52 +1000 Subject: HW: 1975 Hawkwind Parody - Alberto Y Los Trios Paranois Message-ID: At 07:16 PM 4/24/00 +0100, david hall wrote: >This outfit supported HW on a few shows did they not? > That would account for how they got the Turner and Moorcock intonations down so well. -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Apr 25 01:51:33 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:51:33 +1000 Subject: HW: Flexi? Message-ID: At 07:20 PM 4/24/00 +0100, david hall wrote: >Is it likely to be one of those "postcard" singles of the sort favoured in >Poland? Hi - and thanks very much, Jill, for the info - no, these are allegedly Russian, and - now that I've got the seller to describe them in a bit more detail - are clear, one-sided flexi-singles ala Cricket Star, not postcards, and not the same as the ones which (eg) Russian magazines were making of Pink Floyd in the early 80's. No other details available other than they're in picture sleeves and all the writing is in Russian. The songs range from 71 to 74, but I have no idea how old the actual singles are. I did notice the same items in an American store, at a somewhat lower price. The guy I've been talking to appears to have only one copy of each one, but let me check on that, or I can find the US store again if anyone wants to know.They were about $20 each in the US store from memory. -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From peke1978 at IOBOX.FI Tue Apr 25 03:00:54 2000 From: peke1978 at IOBOX.FI (Pekka Pesonen) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 03:00:54 -0400 Subject: Favorite BOC Releases Message-ID: My favorite BOC releases are: Secret Treaties (74) On Your Feet Or On Your Knees (75) Agents Of Fortune (76) Cultosaurus Erectus (80) ---- Soitto??net ja ikonit matkapuhelimeen! http://www.iobox.fi/ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Apr 25 04:00:53 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:00:53 +0100 Subject: Metallica SUCKS! In-Reply-To: <7f.36e6490.26362713@aol.com> Message-ID: My goodness, I never thought we'd have a "... SUCKS!" thread on boc-l. Metallica achieved a remarkable, and unsustainable, level of popular acclaim combined with street credibility. Stands to reason it couldn't go on forever, but it hardly means they "SUCK!" just because you don't care for them any more; surely noone wants them still banging out "Ride the Lightning" again and again? So they either stick with the same formula, which is boring, or they change it and risk alienating fans. They can't win. I hardly think they've sold out, when they've been guilty of some dreadfully uncommercial moves (wearing makeup, ditching their logo, an album of covers by 70s acts, Hetfield's alt-country tendencies, a fucking *orchestral* album!, etc). Lars is given to pretension, but he always has been. Heavy metal drummer in articulacy shock. Anyway, I suspect there's more than meets the eye to the Napster suit. It needed a heavyweight act to bring a case, even though the likes of Metallica are more able to afford the loss. That black-rucksack outfit Steve mentioned, they're the kind of people Napster hurts, but they wouldn't have the money or the profile to bring the case. -- Andy ObTrack: Calexico - "Tulsa Telephone Book" mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Tue Apr 25 04:07:47 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:07:47 +0200 Subject: HW: Flexi? Message-ID: Hello Tim, I've got the 6"Russian flexi's (think there are 6 of them) they are really dodgy and almost not playable (you're really glad they tell on the label what song it is) Must say they exist in different colours.Mine are all white. They are just things to have. It's like wanting a "Japanese" silver machine-pressing. They are also completely different from the Polish-postcards,of wich I have a few too. If you want photocopys of how they look like,e-mail me privatly,ok? best wishes filip hawknut ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Gadd To: Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 8:06 PM Subject: HW: Flexi? > Can anyone suggest to me what sort of animal a 6" Russian single of 'Born to > Go' is likely to be? :\ I'm assuming some sort of bootleg flexi-disc thing > with half the song missing. > > > > -- > Tim Gadd > Hobart, Tasmania From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Apr 25 05:04:59 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:04:59 +1000 Subject: HW: Flexi? Message-ID: At 10:07 AM 4/25/00 +0200, Filip Vanhuyse wrote: >Hello Tim, > >I've got the 6"Russian flexi's (think there are 6 of them) >they are really dodgy and almost not playable (you're really >glad they tell on the label what song it is) Come on, that's what old Hawkwind songs sound like anyway - ask DB :) >Must say they exist in different colours.Mine are all white. >They are just things to have. >It's like wanting a "Japanese" silver machine-pressing. I wouldn't be playing them anyway, as I've retire my turntable. I'm more interested in their status as collectibles, or whether they're just regarded as trash. And I have no idea whether $20 US is a reasonable price or not. That US store turned out to be a false alarm, BTW, and I'm still waiting to see if he has multiples. -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From bocfan at AREA51.BCGSYSTEMS.COM Tue Apr 25 05:29:07 2000 From: bocfan at AREA51.BCGSYSTEMS.COM (J. Michael Looney) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 04:29:07 -0500 Subject: Metallica SUCKS! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Andy Gilham wrote: > > ObTrack: Calexico - "Tulsa Telephone Book" > I got to ask: What is this? I live in Tulsa, and I can tell you our Telephone book is, well, dull. From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Tue Apr 25 06:08:47 2000 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:08:47 +0100 Subject: Metallica SUCKS! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 25 Apr 2000 04:29:07 CDT." Message-ID: > On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Andy Gilham wrote: > > > > > ObTrack: Calexico - "Tulsa Telephone Book" > > I got to ask: What is this? > > I live in Tulsa, and I can tell you our Telephone book is, well, dull. Maybe, but the song most certainly *isn't*. cheers Tim From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Apr 25 07:23:25 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 07:23:25 EDT Subject: Metallica SUCKS! In-Reply-To: <7f.36e6490.26362713@aol.com> Message-ID: On 24 Apr 00, at 18:39, Robert C. Mayo wrote: > my 2 cents: > metallica was destryed by 2 things: > > the death of cliff burton, from wich they never recovered. (listen to > ...and justice for all and TRY to hear ANY bass guitar. there is > NONE.) > > the loss of dave mustaine's riffs. Yeah, but on the plus side: the loss of Dave Mustaine! God, what an asshole. I cannot believe the shit he says in interviews. Now he's some kind of Jesus Freak? Come on... theo From bocfan at AREA51.BCGSYSTEMS.COM Tue Apr 25 07:25:41 2000 From: bocfan at AREA51.BCGSYSTEMS.COM (J. Michael Looney) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 06:25:41 -0500 Subject: Metallica SUCKS! In-Reply-To: <200004251008.LAA01749@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, bart wrote: > > On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Andy Gilham wrote: > > > > > > > > ObTrack: Calexico - "Tulsa Telephone Book" > > > > I got to ask: What is this? > > > > I live in Tulsa, and I can tell you our Telephone book is, well, dull. > > Maybe, but the song most certainly *isn't*. > That's nice. Care to expand on that just a hair. From micci at SCI.FI Tue Apr 25 10:08:05 2000 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:08:05 +0300 Subject: OFF: Amorphis NA tour Message-ID: Hi! >The Finnish psychedelic/metal hybrid band Amorphis are touring the US (and >Canada) soon. I love their newest (or do they have another just out?) 'Tuonela' >CD on Relapse Records. Their previous effort included a Hawkwind cover, so >that makes them cool straight away, eh? Tuonela is latest, don?t know about new one. btw. tuonela mean in english realm of the dead, Hades. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From micci at SCI.FI Tue Apr 25 10:08:11 2000 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:08:11 +0300 Subject: OFF:Moonloonies Message-ID: Hi folks.. I bought new Moonloonies album call Karmaceutical, which is pretty good, but this is not a point. Sleeve says that there is also available following albums: Detonator (?94 Mystic Stones), Science Magic Art (`96 Taste), Deep Shaft (?97/?98 EBS). I know Detonator, but what is these last two ones? I know that EBS had not release Moonloonies or am?I wrong? btw. I have one spare Captain Beyound Tribute CD (feat. 5.15&Nik, same that silver.. EP), which I like to swap to Detonator CD. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 25 10:12:27 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:12:27 +0100 Subject: off:5.15 & Nik In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Sat, 22 Apr 2000 12:14:35 -0400 Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > At 19.25 +0300 00-04-14, Miikka Wagner wrote: > >Tonight Finnish national TV proudly present 5.15 with Nik Turner gig! > > Cool! > > >btw. I don?t have second video, so I can?t make copy. Sorry! > > Damn! > > Anyone? I have a second video and wouldn't have any problems making copies *if* they're in PAL format. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Apr 25 10:20:23 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:20:23 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: HW: Flexi? In-Reply-To: Jill Strobridge's message of Mon, 24 Apr 2000 20:07:08 +0100 Message-ID: Jill Strobridge writes: > There are "postcards" which are literally picture postcards covered in a > plastic vinyl into which the relevant track has been etched. Myself, > I find these extremely attractive and eminently collectable (!) but > there seem to be several hundred (maybe even thousands?) of them around > so don't be tempted into paying huge prices. I've only ever sourced > mine from E. European countries (or at least people here who have got > them from there) but it seems that once you have found a contact the > supply suddenly becomes neverending! I suspect each buyer is in > danger of creating his own market - though I have to admit that I've > never seen ANY recent tracks produced as postcards so it could be that > production of them was limited to the earlier tracks. > > However I am also informed that these postcard picture postcards are not > the original "postcards". The original "postcards" are a poor quality > coloured vinyl semi-rigid flexi much as described below. The interest > in them lying more in their social history (made at a time when it was > illegal to buy records by bands such as Hawkwind) than in their quality. > (Exactly why the supposedly original vinyl version was called a postcard > if it wasn't, though, entirely escapes me - but no matter!) The one I have of Silver Machine is postcard size and shape. There's no indication that it ever had any picture on it. FoFP From hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU Tue Apr 25 10:25:40 2000 From: hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU (hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:25:40 -0500 Subject: Metallica SUCKS! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Metallica's music is mostly just uninteresting to me. But it should be noted that these "dreadfully uncommercial moves" are nothing less than a duplication of what all those 70s superstars did on their "solo" projects. You know, in the name of 'artistic growth.' Since Metallica predicated itself, at least early on, as being a reaction against 70s excesses, it only stands to reason that, like a child who reacts against his mother or father too much and then as an adult becomes just like them, Metallica has turned into one of the purest examples of egotistical, excessive 70s-ness. Much more so than all those other 70s influenced bands, like on the MansRuin label, who mix their 70s with a 90s edge and a new millennial ironic-but-serious sensibility. So, maybe its not quite 'selling out,' but it certainly seems to lack much aesthetic credibility. just an observation, thomas On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Andy Gilham wrote: > I hardly think they've sold out, when they've been guilty of some > dreadfully uncommercial moves (wearing makeup, ditching their logo, an album > of covers by 70s acts, Hetfield's alt-country tendencies, a fucking > *orchestral* album!, etc). Lars is given to pretension, but he always has > been. Heavy metal drummer in articulacy shock. > From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Tue Apr 25 10:31:23 2000 From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:31:23 -0400 Subject: Metallica SUCKS! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I dunno. I think S&M is very good. Michael S. Habiby VP Sales and Marketing the CableShoppe, inc. One Prospect Ave. Albany, NY 12206 (800) 386-2300 (518) 489-0269 - fax cableshoppe at global2000.net or mhabiby1 at nycap.rr.com ________________________ -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 9:26 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: Metallica SUCKS! Metallica's music is mostly just uninteresting to me. But it should be noted that these "dreadfully uncommercial moves" are nothing less than a duplication of what all those 70s superstars did on their "solo" projects. You know, in the name of 'artistic growth.' Since Metallica predicated itself, at least early on, as being a reaction against 70s excesses, it only stands to reason that, like a child who reacts against his mother or father too much and then as an adult becomes just like them, Metallica has turned into one of the purest examples of egotistical, excessive 70s-ness. Much more so than all those other 70s influenced bands, like on the MansRuin label, who mix their 70s with a 90s edge and a new millennial ironic-but-serious sensibility. So, maybe its not quite 'selling out,' but it certainly seems to lack much aesthetic credibility. just an observation, thomas On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Andy Gilham wrote: > I hardly think they've sold out, when they've been guilty of some > dreadfully uncommercial moves (wearing makeup, ditching their logo, an album > of covers by 70s acts, Hetfield's alt-country tendencies, a fucking > *orchestral* album!, etc). Lars is given to pretension, but he always has > been. Heavy metal drummer in articulacy shock. > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Apr 25 10:33:46 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:33:46 EDT Subject: Metallica SUCKS! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 25 Apr 00, at 9:25, hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU wrote: > Metallica's music is mostly just uninteresting to me. But it should be > noted that these "dreadfully uncommercial moves" are nothing less than > a duplication of what all those 70s superstars did on their "solo" > projects. You know, in the name of 'artistic growth.' Since Metallica > predicated itself, at least early on, as being a reaction against 70s > excesses, it only stands to reason that, like a child who reacts > against his mother or father too much and then as an adult becomes > just like them, Metallica has turned into one of the purest examples > of egotistical, excessive 70s-ness. Much more so than all those other > 70s influenced bands, like on the MansRuin label, who mix their 70s > with a 90s edge and a new millennial ironic-but-serious sensibility. > So, maybe its not quite 'selling out,' but it certainly seems to lack > much aesthetic credibility. > > > just an observation, And a great one. You nailed it! theo From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Tue Apr 25 11:08:34 2000 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:08:34 -0400 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: > >> >MARTIN GRIFFIN > > >> somewhere in here, he was with Richard Strange, ex-Doctors of Madness. And > >> appeared on the Live Rise of... at least. > > > > More details! > > OK, the album was called... > > "The Live Rise of Richard Strange" on PVC/Ze Records, Cat. # PVC 7917 (1980). > Line-up was: > Richard Strange - Vocals, Guitar, Keyboards (?) > Sam Williams, Paul Martinez (once of PAL and Robert Plant!), Simon Frazier - > Bass > Martin Griffin - Drums > guest Dave Winthrop - Sax (on Preplay) > > (Note that 'Preplay' is the same music as 'Work' from F&R II, but the lyrics > are completely different, as is the title of course. The sax is pretty much > the same IIRC....same guy anyway.) > > It says on the liner notes that it was a live recording from NYC, and it > rather seems like that, but it was undoubtedly recorded over with additional > stuff. I doubt they had three bassists on tour then! Terry Hounsome's Rock > Record lists this album under the title 'The Phenomenal Rise of...' which is > in fact the first song on the album. But it's not a separate entity, 'cause > the cat. no. is the same. > > I don't think MG was ever in Doctors of Madness (Richard known as 'Kid > Strange' then), but I'm not the expert on this lot. Somebody here made me a > tape of that stuff, so there's someone who can answer this I imagine. "The Phenomenal Rise Of Richard Strange" was the studio album followed almost immediately by "The Live Rise Of Richard Strange" with a few changes in the set list. Sigh, I really should check my records at home rather than relying on memory, but here goes... (-8 It's my understanding that for the tour that produced "The Live Rise Of Richard Strange", the show was just Strange with backing from a four track tape machine. So the instrumentation credits are probably from the studio "The Phenomenal Rise Of Richard Strange," with the studio tapes providing the backing for the live show. BTW Kid Strange was listed as performing at Julian Cope's recent two day festival. Anyone catch his act? John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Apr 25 13:52:18 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:52:18 +0100 Subject: Calexico In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's a track on the tribute album _Real: the Tom T Hall Project_, which they've also played live. It's an absoulutely fantastic song: The Tulsa Telephone Book Can send a guy insane Especially when the girl you're looking for Has got no last name -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of J. Michael Looney > Sent: 25 April 2000 10:29 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: Metallica SUCKS! > > > On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Andy Gilham wrote: > > > > > ObTrack: Calexico - "Tulsa Telephone Book" > > > > I got to ask: What is this? > > I live in Tulsa, and I can tell you our Telephone book is, well, dull. > From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Tue Apr 25 15:10:18 2000 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:10:18 -0500 Subject: Metallica SUCKS! Message-ID: hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU wrote: > Metallica's music is mostly just uninteresting to me. But it should > be noted that these "dreadfully uncommercial moves" are nothing less than > a duplication of what all those 70s superstars did on their "solo" > projects. You know, in the name of 'artistic growth.' Since Metallica > predicated itself, at least early on, as being a reaction against 70s > excesses, it only stands to reason that, like a child who reacts against > his mother or father too much and then as an adult becomes just like them, > Metallica has turned into one of the purest examples of egotistical, > excessive 70s-ness. Much more so than all those other 70s influenced > bands, like on the MansRuin label, who mix their 70s with a 90s edge and a > new millennial ironic-but-serious sensibility. So, maybe its not quite > 'selling out,' but it certainly seems to lack much aesthetic credibility. > > just an observation, > thomas > > On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Andy Gilham wrote: > > > I hardly think they've sold out, when they've been guilty of some > > dreadfully uncommercial moves (wearing makeup, ditching their logo, an album > > of covers by 70s acts, Hetfield's alt-country tendencies, a fucking > > *orchestral* album!, etc). Lars is given to pretension, but he always has > > been. Heavy metal drummer in articulacy shock. > > Another fact is the sudden rise in their popularity following their image change, which was intentionally suited for a pop/alternative audience. I knew very few Metallica fans back when I was really into them from, say, 1991-95. It's my impression at least that most of their fans now are unfamiliar with anyththing before Load (and Enter Sandman), and had never heard of the band itself until their publicity crusade several years ago. Exactly what pisses me off, I think, is that Metallica now belongs to a larger, more vaccuous consumer population whose tastes are only the whim of the higher forces of commerce. Thinking about it now I guess it isn't even selling out, since they've never been above teen-angst/aggression in the first place. They've simply swithced to an easier audience. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 25 20:54:27 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:54:27 -0700 Subject: Captain Beyond Tribute Message-ID: Darrin M - the CD is available now from me at CD Services, and here's the write-up I did for it in the catalogue in February: V/A: Thousand Days Of Yesterdays - A Tribute To Captain Beyond CD?12.99 Now, the disadvantage of reviewing a tribute album to such an obscure band as this (and you have to ask yourself why it's been done in the first place) is that you can't really say how good or bad it is compared to what it's meant to sound like (possibly the whole point - I don't know), but the advantage is that you can just listen to it all and then say 'thumbs up' or 'thumbs down'. To my great surprise, this is most definitely 'thums up' and I realy must find one of the Capatin Beyond albums just to see if what I'm hearing here is better or worse. If worse, then Captain Beyond must be one hell of a rock band, because this thing is smoking prog-metal with feet in both camps and it rocks. The guitar and synths work throughout is exemplary, and the consistency of enjoyment incredibly high. The arrangements and production are vast and loud while the vocals throughput work a treat. NOT ONLY THAT, but you'll find an exclusive ten minute track from Flower Kings and a track from Five Fifteen that includes ex-Hawkwind sax man Nik Turner blowing a fine solo in the track. Other bands to be features are Lotus w/ex-Thin Lizzy guitarist Brian Robertson, Locomotive Breath, Standarte and more. OK???? Well worth getting, eh!!!!. We have it in stock unless it's sold out in which case more will be here by Friday. Andy Garibaldi. From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 25 21:05:17 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 18:05:17 -0700 Subject: Moonloonies Message-ID: My night tonight.................. I bought new Moonloonies album call Karmaceutical, which is pretty good, (better than that with copies here once Crum decides to mail them) Detonator (?94 Mystic Stones) Label now folded and CD now hard to get but it's a gem and well worth it. Science Magic Art (`96 Taste) Comes as a bit of a surprise, as we dealt with Taste and I never heard about this (Taste being the home of those dodgy Ozrics videos and the two Harvey Bainbridge CD's and the fantastic Mooch CD's, to mention but a few) Deep Shaft(?97/?98 EBS) Just part of all the albums that EBS were going to bring out, that never made it and which are 'technically' still in the pipeline, altho' Crum may have different ideas on this, perhaps. I have a Moonloonies tape form before the first album if I remember rightly - must dig it out as I can't remember for the life of me what on earth's on it. Thanks once again, Andy Garibaldi From andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Apr 25 20:34:36 2000 From: andygee at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (ANDREW GARIBALDI) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:34:36 -0700 Subject: Metallica don't suck (sort of) Message-ID: OK OK ......I can stay silent no longer I disliked the early Metallica albums (still do - that's my perogative - neverbeen a thrash fan) but when the 'Black' album came along, I was just swept away - the album represents for me one of the best ever balances of metal and commerciality yet achieved. Ok, so the thrash fans say 'sold out' and it made the band millions and megastars overnight, but are you seriously telling me that 'Eneter Sandman' is not a seriously brilliant slice of metal riffing, good enough for the mighty Motorhead to cover; that 'Nothing Else Matters' has some of the best dynamics on a 'power ballad' and an emotive quality that warms the heart; that 'Wherever I May Roam', 'The Unforgiven' and 'Sad But True' aren't great metal songs expertly wrapped up in a mix of qulity and accesibility, etc. In short, it substitutes the dynamics of rock for out and out power (altho' my neighbours may well testify the opposite)while still being a powerful album compared to many. Just because the songs are the sort of thing that stay inside your head and don't let go, are they to be chastised? I won't delve further into the realms of hair-cutting and 'losing' the fans base of old, but 'hey' - groups move on (unless you're Sepultura) - you only have to look at the current Anathema album for proof of how a band can suddenly be stricken by the quality bug - and while the current dallying with the orchestra does not make for good listening at all, I still think the 'black' album is a gem and even tho you are debating the ethical merits of the group on the site, don't let that override your view on the music - yes, feel free to dislike the music but don't siuddenly disklike it just because the group are playing silly games. That's my point of view and that's why it's a discussion group - thank you for listening. Andy Garibaldi. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Apr 25 14:42:46 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:42:46 -0400 Subject: Metallica SUCKS! In-Reply-To: <3905ED9A.1F41D0E0@softhome.net>; from antisol@SOFTHOME.NET on Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 02:10:18PM -0500 Message-ID: On Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 02:10:18PM -0500, Sen. Volstead wrote: > Exactly what pisses me off, I think, is that Metallica now belongs to a > larger, more vaccuous consumer population whose tastes are only the whim of the > higher forces of commerce. I used to know someone who's been big in the jazz scene for decades (friend of my parents). The above quote could be a paraphrase of what Gene once said to me about the revered sixties. Plus ca change, and all that. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of ridicule. he was NOT a loser. thank you, Mr. Schulz. - Robert C. Mayo From JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM Tue Apr 25 15:42:58 2000 From: JLoehr4299 at AOL.COM (Joe Loehr) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:42:58 EDT Subject: Favorite BOC Releases Message-ID: Pekka and ever'body, I agree with your list, and would like to add the following albums: Fire of Unknown Origin (81) Club Ninja (87--yes, I think it is a good album) Imaginos(88--it's so damn weird it's gotta be good!) and, of cuss, Heaven Forbid(98) Joe Loehr From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Apr 25 15:56:00 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:56:00 -0400 Subject: OFF: Last Days of May Message-ID: Hi Folks... I was browsing today in Used Kids (as I do every week about this time), and saw a disc by a band called 'Last Days of May.' I read the little advert blurb on the outside of the disc, which was sufficiently nebulous to not give me much of an idea of what the band was like. All I could gather is that they were an instrumental 'power trio.' And this was their second release. Was just wondering whether the band's name was obviously a BOC reference, or whether Last Days of May is a commonly known phrase for some other reason. Was also wondering if they iz any good. I had a good day...I found the EMI remaster of Pink Floyd's Piper for only $5...it had a nasty mark on it (which the guy warned me about...reason for the low price), but it was outside the area where the music is burned in, so no matter. Grakkl (FAA) P.S. Can anyone tell me what Pere Ubu album(s) I might like? I really like the band Speaker/Cranker (a possible SD2K entry) which inclues PU-guitarist Jim Jones (actually on synth in S/C), and thought I'd try them out. From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Apr 25 17:18:04 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:18:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: Last Days of May In-Reply-To: <200004252051.QAA26271@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: This lot? http://www.squealermusic.com/catalog/ldom2.html Wasn't Karl Precoda in Dream Syndicate? And isn't that where Tommy Zvoncheck came from? -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Apr 25 17:29:43 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:29:43 -0700 Subject: OFF: Last Days of May Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:56:00 -0400, Grakkl (FAA) K Henderson wrote: >I was browsing today in Used Kids (as I do every week about this time) Great store! Say "hi" to Mike Rep (the guy with long-ish grey hair) for me if he's at the counter ... once when visiting friends of mine, they all recorded a weird version of "Spirit of the Age" that was semi-dedicated to me (the same day, they recorded a version of the Twinkeyz' "Aliens In Our Midst" dedicated to our mutual friend Karl who did the CD reissue of the Twinkeyz and, more recently, Debris). >saw a disc by a band called 'Last Days of May.' I read the little advert >blurb on the outside of the disc, which was sufficiently nebulous to not >give me much of an idea of what the band was like. All I could gather is >that they were an instrumental 'power trio.' And this was their second release. I haven't heard this one yet, but I posted about their first album a few months after it came out. I dunno if I'd use the term "power trio" to describe them, although they are a heavy guitar/bass/drums band. Their music is far more psychedelic and exploratory than any typical heavy rock band. Lots of out-there jamming and long tracks, at least on the first album, which I liked very much. >Was just wondering whether the band's name was obviously a BOC reference, or >whether Last Days of May is a commonly known phrase for some other reason. >Was also wondering if they iz any good. Last Days Of May guitarist Karl Precoda (ex-Dream Syndicate, whose lineup, yes, briefly included Tommy Zvoncheck ... I believe Karl and Tommy quit at the same time, and ex-Droogs) wrote the song "Wings of Mercury" that was performed by BOC live during the late 80s (Dream Syndicate were managed by Sandy Pearlman for a while, which explains things). >P.S. Can anyone tell me what Pere Ubu album(s) I might like? I really like >the band Speaker/Cranker (a possible SD2K entry) which inclues PU-guitarist >Jim Jones (actually on synth in S/C), and thought I'd try them out. Definitely begin at the beginning! Get the 'Terminal Tower' collection that includes their seminal first two singles (including "Final Solution", with its' "rave-up" outro that was "borrowed" from "Space Is Deep") and their first actual album, 'The Modern Dance'. Pere Ubu were probably the most advanced band in America at that time (c.76/77), and I would highly recommend their stuff to Hawkwind fans (as long as you can tolerate a singer with a "weird" voice). Jim Jones is an extremely cool musician who has played in a *lot* of great bands from Cleveland, including the VU/Floyd-influenced Mirrors (who were covering "Ejection" within weeks of the release of 'Captain Lockheed'), the jazzier Styrenes (who Mirrors mutated into), the Easter Monkeys (a truly sick heavy/poetic postpunk outfit), and others. I haven't heard Speaker/Cranker yet, so I'll have to check that out. Funny how all those ex-Pere Ubu guys are turning into synth players (drummer Anton Fier, probably most famous for his Golden Palaminos "supersession"-type band, is, like me, one of the owners of the Wiard modular synthesizer designed by Grant Richter of F/i). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Apr 25 18:24:05 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 23:24:05 +0100 Subject: HW: Flexi? Message-ID: --- Original Message ----- From: Tim Gadd To: Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 10:04 AM Subject: Re: HW: Flexi? > I wouldn't be playing them anyway, as I've retire my turntable. I'm more > interested in their status as collectibles, or whether they're just regarded > as trash. Could you pass on any info you discover? I admit I'm really curious to know whether they are limited in quantity or whether there are actually zillions of copies lying in mountainous dusty piles in manufacturers' cellars somewhere. > And I have no idea whether $20 US is a reasonable price or not. > That US store turned out to be a false alarm, BTW, and I'm still waiting to > see if he has multiples. The price over here was a consistent one of between 10 and 12 pounds 3 or 4 years ago. $20 is about 14 pounds so the price seems to have gone up a little. Could be inflation, could be distance. thanks jill From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Apr 25 18:53:11 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 23:53:11 +0100 Subject: OFF: Anathema (was sucking metallica - yuk!) Message-ID: >you only have to look at the current Anathema album for proof of how a band can suddenly be stricken by the quality bug< By an obscure route I have recently got Anathema's 'Judgement'. At first I didnt like it ....standard middle of the road "rock"..... but after a few more listens I'm really into it now. I know nothing about the band. Is this their latest album to which Mr Biscuit refers above? What is their other work like? T np - Farflung 25000 feet From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Apr 25 19:11:22 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 00:11:22 +0100 Subject: Metallica SUCKS! Message-ID: Strangely and depressingly enough, I've been going some distance recently to see one of my favourite bands (PO90) to audiences of 20 to 40 in various pubs. Despite profound musical excellence the band probably wont make it to any size at all and I dont think they expect to. Sitting in these pubs, listening to this exceptional music with a tiny group of like minded souls, reminded me massively of going to Jazz nights in my youth in local pubs. My impression was of middle aged men, playing irrelevant but quite pleasant music for the benefit of a small group of other middle aged men, and then both groups merging and having enthusiastic conversations about Jazz players and bands from before I was born. Pass me the razor blades. T >> Exactly what pisses me off, I think, is that Metallica now belongs to a >> larger, more vaccuous consumer population whose tastes are only the whim of the >> higher forces of commerce. >I used to know someone who's been big in the jazz scene for decades (friend of my parents). The above quote could be a paraphrase of what Gene once said to me about the revered sixties.< From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Apr 25 23:26:08 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 03:26:08 +0000 Subject: OFF: Last Days of May Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: > >Was just wondering whether the band's name was obviously a BOC reference, or > >whether Last Days of May is a commonly known phrase for some other reason. > >Was also wondering if they iz any good. Speaking of BOC-speak, I spotted a CD in the used racks by a band called something along the lines of "The Starry Wisdom Group." I wonder if this or the music is BOC-influenced? Cheers, Paul. NP: Galactic, Summer Session, Harmony Park, Geneva, MN, 8/8/99 -- e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Wed Apr 26 01:36:02 2000 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 00:36:02 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Metallica SUCKS! Message-ID: Eric Siegerman wrote: > On Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 02:10:18PM -0500, Sen. Volstead wrote: > > Exactly what pisses me off, I think, is that Metallica now belongs to a > > larger, more vaccuous consumer population whose tastes are only the whim of the > > higher forces of commerce. > > I used to know someone who's been big in the jazz scene for > decades (friend of my parents). The above quote could be a > paraphrase of what Gene once said to me about the revered > sixties. ...of the "Harris" variety? From jani.rakuscek at GUEST.ARNES.SI Wed Apr 26 04:14:21 2000 From: jani.rakuscek at GUEST.ARNES.SI (direstr8s) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:14:21 +0200 Subject: OFF: BOC / Iron Maiden Message-ID: hi, Is there a connection between BOC and Bruce Dickinson (present vocalist for Iron Maiden)? I mean...HE produced don't fear...the best of. it's weird because he's not mantioned anywhere whit BOC.... i won't some answers :) ____________________________________________________ Todays music ain't got the same soul, I like that old time rock and roll From peke1978 at IOBOX.FI Wed Apr 26 05:02:28 2000 From: peke1978 at IOBOX.FI (Pekka Pesonen) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 05:02:28 -0400 Subject: OFF: BOC / Iron Maiden Message-ID: > hi, > Is there a connection between BOC and Bruce Dickinson (present vocalist for > Iron Maiden)? > I mean...HE produced don't fear...the best of. > it's weird because he's not mantioned anywhere whit BOC.... > i won't some answers :) > He's not same Bruce. "Producer Dickinson" has produced many compilation albums (Super Hits-series) ____________________________________________________ > Todays music ain't got the same soul, I like that old time rock and roll ---- Soitto??net ja ikonit matkapuhelimeen! http://www.iobox.fi/ From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Apr 26 06:44:55 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 20:44:55 +1000 Subject: HW: Flexi? Message-ID: >Could you pass on any info you discover? I admit I'm really curious >to know whether they are limited in quantity or whether there are >actually zillions of copies lying in mountainous dusty piles in >manufacturers' cellars somewhere. He only has 1 copy of each. If you want to buy them, send me your email address and I'll give you his details. He's a seller in the UK and has a very good feedback record. I've decided not to bother with them. Might do if I weren't trying to save money for an overseas trip. His price is actually 12 pounds which is about 19 dollars US, and about 30 AU. The ones he has are Born to Go Lost Johnny Brainstorm You Shouldn't Do That (in 3 parts) The Watcher Seven by Seven Down Through the Night Sonic Attack As you asked first, I'll pass the details to you, if you want them. If you don't I'll post it to the list. -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Apr 26 07:38:50 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 07:38:50 EDT Subject: OFF: Last Days of May In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 25 Apr 00, at 22:18, Andy Gilham wrote: > This lot? > > http://www.squealermusic.com/catalog/ldom2.html > > Wasn't Karl Precoda in Dream Syndicate? And isn't that where Tommy > Zvoncheck came from? > > -- Andy Don't know about that. Didn't Tommy do some work with Billy Idol? Or was that the dude who played drums on CN? theo From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Apr 26 07:50:00 2000 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 07:50:00 EDT Subject: OFF: Last Days of May Message-ID: In a message dated 4/26/00 7:39:29 AM, tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes: << Wasn't Karl Precoda in Dream Syndicate? >> ======== yeah. i've got their first, "days of wine and roses" dunno beyond that. concisely yours, "<>" From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed Apr 26 08:34:20 2000 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 08:34:20 -0400 Subject: OFF: Last Days of May Message-ID: > Speaking of BOC-speak, I spotted a CD in the used racks by a band called > something along the lines of "The Starry Wisdom Group." I wonder if > this or the music is BOC-influenced? "The Starry Wisdom" comes originally from a story by H. P. Lovecraft, so I suspect the influence is there. Either that, or Bolle formed another band... ;-) John PS: Metallica doesn't suck, but perhaps some of their music does. I never got into their early albums, but I did get their first "sellout" album, *Metallica* (the infamous "black album), and I like several of the songs of *Load* (HATE the cover though - can't buy and album who's artwork was made by some guy jerking off and mixing it with pigs blood). They did a decent job on BOC's "Astronomy". If they want to go commercial, that's their choice - hell, most musicians get into the business to make money, right? But, this thing with them suing universities that allow the use of a (currently) legal product - I think it's more to make a statement than actually collect money - is stupid. From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Apr 26 10:29:49 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 00:29:49 +1000 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. Message-ID: >Viv did narrate a version of Peter and the Wolf, but unless they dumped >Prokofiev's score for something of Huw's, it can't have been that. But since apparently the soundtrack also features Chris Spedding and Alvin Lee, maybe this was it. Would also open up a whole new can of connections for HW. -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Apr 26 10:40:34 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:40:34 +0100 Subject: HW: guests, sessions, spin-offs etc. In-Reply-To: <20000426142948.PWBG14975.mta02.mail.mel.aone.net.au@Default> Message-ID: > But since apparently the soundtrack also features Chris Spedding and Alvin > Lee, maybe this was it. Would also open up a whole new can of connections > for HW. Especially as Chris Spedding has played thousands of sessions (including stuff like Mylene Farmer's _Innamoramento_). Lots of stuff at www.chrisspedding.com -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk From SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET Wed Apr 26 11:06:57 2000 From: SLOTERDIJK at WEBTV.NET (SLOTERDIJK) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:06:57 -0400 Subject: Fwd: ARTIMUS: Beltane Celebration appearance, May 1 Message-ID: http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/SLOTERDIJKControl http://community.webtv.net/SLOTERDIJK/ARTIMUS -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: SLOTERDIJK at webtv.net (SLOTERDIJK) Subject: ARTIMUS: Beltane Celebration appearance, May 1 Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:12:46 -0400 (EDT) Size: 3727 URL: From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Apr 26 10:14:22 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:14:22 -0400 Subject: OFF: Last Days of May Message-ID: Doug P.'d... >Great store! Say "hi" to Mike Rep (the guy with long-ish grey hair) for me >if he's at the counter ... once when visiting friends of mine, they all >recorded a weird version of "Spirit of the Age" that was semi-dedicated to >me (the same day, they recorded a version of the Twinkeyz' "Aliens In Our >Midst" dedicated to our mutual friend Karl who did the CD reissue of the >Twinkeyz and, more recently, Debris). Yeah, he's (almost) always there. Are you saying he's a musician? He normally hangs out in the 'Annex', where all the old LPs and 60s/70s CDs are. And that's where they play the good music (Hawkwind occasionally)...the 'real' Used Kids next door almost always is cranking the very worst crap I've ever heard. What's his connection to the Bay Area? >>saw a disc by a band called 'Last Days of May.' >Their music is far more psychedelic and exploratory than any typical heavy rock >band. Lots of out-there jamming and long tracks, at least on the first album, >which I liked very much. Hmmmm...I might try it out then. >>P.S. Can anyone tell me what Pere Ubu album(s) I might like? I really like >>the band Speaker/Cranker (a possible SD2K entry) which inclues PU-guitarist >>Jim Jones (actually on synth in S/C), and thought I'd try them out. > >Definitely begin at the beginning! Get the 'Terminal Tower' collection >that includes their seminal first two singles (including "Final Solution", >with its' "rave-up" outro that was "borrowed" from "Space Is Deep") and >their first actual album, 'The Modern Dance'. This was the one I was looking at in the store yesterday. Almost walked out with it, but thought I'd ask first. They also had a used copy of 'Raygun Suitcase' or something, which I think is much more recent. >Jim Jones is an extremely cool musician who has played in a *lot* of great >bands from Cleveland, including the VU/Floyd-influenced Mirrors (who were >covering "Ejection" within weeks of the release of 'Captain Lockheed'), That sounds interesting...any in-print CD reissues of that stuff? >Funny how all those >ex-Pere Ubu guys are turning into synth players (drummer Anton Fier, >probably most famous for his Golden Palaminos "supersession"-type band, He was in the original Feelies (another VU-influenced band), as well as playing with Bob Mould at some point. Grakkl (FAA) From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Wed Apr 26 12:00:44 2000 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 17:00:44 +0100 Subject: OFF: Anathema (was sucking metallica - yuk!) Message-ID: I've got to jump in on this one having been a fan of Anathema from the days of "Pentecost III". If I had to recommend one of their albums as an example of their superb doom/Pink Floyd crossover it would have to be "Eternity" which would easily be in my top 20 rock albums. And not just because of the Roy Harper cover with spoken intro by the man himself:-) "The Silent Enigma" is also excellent, but they do appear to have gone off the boil a bit recently. Stuart NP Uriah Heep - Different Worlds Blessings and peace from; Zeitgeist, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "A man without love is no man at all, just a cold, bitter wind passing by" http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.stuarthamilton.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Stephenson [mailto:timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK] > Sent: 25 April 2000 23:53 > Subject: OFF: Anathema (was sucking metallica - yuk!) > > > >you only have to look at the current Anathema album for proof of how a > band can suddenly be stricken by the quality bug< > > By an obscure route I have recently got Anathema's 'Judgement'. > At first I > didnt like it ....standard middle of the road "rock"..... but after a few > more listens I'm really into it now. I know nothing about the band. Is > this their latest album to which Mr Biscuit refers above? What is their > other work like? > > T > > np - Farflung 25000 feet > From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Wed Apr 26 13:13:11 2000 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 12:13:11 -0500 Subject: OFF: BOC / Iron Maiden Message-ID: Pekka Pesonen wrote: > > hi, > > Is there a connection between BOC and Bruce Dickinson (present vocalist for > > Iron Maiden)? > > I mean...HE produced don't fear...the best of. > > it's weird because he's not mantioned anywhere whit BOC.... > > i won't some answers :) > > > > He's not same Bruce. "Producer Dickinson" has produced many compilation albums (Super Hits-series) > ____________________________________________________ > > Todays music ain't got the same soul, I like that old time rock and roll > > ---- > Soitto??net ja ikonit matkapuhelimeen! http://www.iobox.fi/ He does make vague hawkwind references though. "Capt. Lockheed" is in the "thanks to:" section of one of his solo albums, and says something about a Hawklord in one of his songs. On the inside cover of Somewhere in Time (Iron Maiden), one of the control panels in the spaceship is titled "Orgone Field"... I said "vague", did I not? From jani.rakuscek at GUEST.ARNES.SI Wed Apr 26 12:57:16 2000 From: jani.rakuscek at GUEST.ARNES.SI (direstr8s) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:57:16 +0200 Subject: OFF: BOC / Iron Maiden Message-ID: Well... afterall...Martin Birch was the producer with cult in years 1979-1981... I don't know when did he start to produce for Maiden...probably at the end of cult.... ____________________________________________________ Todays music ain't got the same soul, I like that old time rock and roll | | He does make vague hawkwind references though. "Capt. Lockheed" is in the "thanks to:" section of one | of his solo albums, and says something about a Hawklord in one of his songs. On the inside cover of | Somewhere in Time (Iron Maiden), one of the control panels in the spaceship is titled "Orgone | Field"... I said "vague", did I not? | From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Apr 26 14:13:05 2000 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:13:05 EDT Subject: OFF: STRAWBS UK TOUR Message-ID: For anyone interested in the Strawbs UK Tour, check the address. http://www.strawbpage.ndirect.co.uk/f_2000.htm Bill From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Apr 26 17:21:22 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 07:21:22 +1000 Subject: HW: Lucky Lief Message-ID: Recieved my CD of Lucky Lief today - along with what was invoiced as Live at Queen Elizabeth Hall, but was in fact some band I've never heard of (though they do a cover of a song I know by The Wolfgang Press) - however I assume this means QEH is still _gettable_ and that someone else has got it by mistake :/ Anyway, having lived with Lucky Lief in my collection over 20 years, I was quite suprised to find atleast two tracks on the CD being different: quite a bit of extra 'footage' in 'Phase-locked Loop', and an entirely different (and entirely awful) version of Making of Midgard, with bounced vocals ala 'Song of the Gremlin.' Is this standard on all the CD releases of LL? The old LP version was so much better; why in hell did they substitute this version? Is anything else different? Ditto for Capt Lockheed. I got the distinct impression when I played the CD version that there was dialogue I didn't recall from the LP, but it's so long since I played either of these albums on vinyl... I also couldn't help thinking that when RC recorded Lucky Lief, he pretty much re-defined the term 'quirky'. Ok, let's do a concept album about the Vikings discovering America. Well, this was 1975. Actually it sounds like something Rick Wakeman might have gotten around to eventually, so I'm glad Bob beat him to it, because that could have been really excruciating. But then... let's make it a _comedy_ album about the Vikings discovering America. Now this is getting a little weird. But let's put at least one serious poem on there, too. And oh yes, rather than having some musical theme, let's make every song of a different genre, so it should really appeal to anyone who happens to like Heavy Metal, Music Hall, Native chants, country and western, and The Beach Boys. Well I don't care. I still think it's a hoot, and Calvert had more musical inventiveness in his little finger than most indie record labels have in their whole catalogue. Now here's a real trivia question for you. Can anyone identify any of the tv shows/movies in Phase-locked Loop? -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Wed Apr 26 17:40:35 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:40:35 -0500 Subject: HW: Lucky Lief Message-ID: > Now here's a real trivia question for you. Can anyone identify any of the tv > shows/movies in Phase-locked Loop? I remember a few of them. I think the "flextime" is from a news segment that would run Saturday mornings (cartoon time for kids) on cbs, at least it's the same guy's voice who did those. The "unusually large heard" is from Wild Kingdom, I believe. dan From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Apr 26 18:20:56 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:20:56 -0400 Subject: HW: Lucky Lief In-Reply-To: <20000426212120.QTFN14975.mta02.mail.mel.aone.net.au@Default>; from lupercal@GEOCITIES.COM on Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 07:21:22AM +1000 Message-ID: On Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 07:21:22AM +1000, Tim Gadd wrote: > I also couldn't help thinking that when RC recorded Lucky Lief, he pretty > much re-defined the term 'quirky'. Uh huh. I like Calvert's stuff, a lot ... except for this one. I searched for it for *years* on vinyl, and I think I only listened to it once. Rather like Annie Haslam's "Annie in Wonderland". I passed by N copies of that in the delete bins after first discovering Hawkwind. By the time someone turned me onto Renaissance, AiW was a collectors item. I finally forked over the cash, got it home, and went "Ick! What's this smarmy crap?" This is completely unlike Capt. Lockheed and New Worlds Fair, both of which I also searched for for years, and both of which were *well* worth the effort. > Recieved my CD of Lucky Lief today - along with what was invoiced as Live at > Queen Elizabeth Hall, but was in fact some band I've never heard of They screwed up the wrong half of your order :-) "Live at QEH" is great! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of ridicule. he was NOT a loser. thank you, Mr. Schulz. - Robert C. Mayo From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Apr 26 18:23:12 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:23:12 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: Metallica SUCKS! In-Reply-To: <39068042.8C3BAC57@softhome.net>; from antisol@SOFTHOME.NET on Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 12:36:02AM -0500 Message-ID: On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 12:36:02AM -0500, Sen. Volstead wrote: > Eric Siegerman wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 02:10:18PM -0500, Sen. Volstead wrote: > > > Exactly what pisses me off, I think, is that Metallica now belongs to a > > > larger, more vaccuous consumer population whose tastes are only the whim of the > > > higher forces of commerce. > > > > I used to know someone who's been big in the jazz scene for > > decades (friend of my parents). The above quote could be a > > paraphrase of what Gene once said to me about the revered > > sixties. > > ...of the "Harris" variety? Lees, actually. A writer and lyricist more than a performer. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / It would be interesting to know how many of the aging baby-boomers are the consequence of romances Frank Sinatra aided and abetted. - Gene Lees From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Apr 26 18:56:08 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:56:08 -0700 Subject: OFF: Last Days of May Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:14:22 -0400, Grakkl (FAA) wrote: >Doug P.'d... >>Great store! Say "hi" to Mike Rep (the guy with long-ish grey hair) for me >>if he's at the counter ... > >Yeah, he's (almost) always there. Are you saying he's a musician? He's been a great one for something like 25 years! His c.1975 band, the Quotas, released a *classic* single, "Rocket To Nowhere" that kicks ass (and is one of the more lo-fi records ever to be released). It's contained on his 'Stupor Hiatus' LP (Siltbreeze). He's only had a couple of albums out, but is very prolific and has sent out tons of cassettes of his work to friends. I'll have to dig the one I have out ... I recall it having a song that sounded like a rewrite of "Motorway City". >What's his connection to the Bay Area? None, really, aside from some of us out here being fans/friends of his. He was a good friend of the late Jim Shepard, another looooong-time Columbus musician whose 70s band, Vertical Slit, fell into that weird arty proto-punk category shared with Pere Ubu, MX-80, Debris, etc. Unfortunately, he took his own life over a year ago after a bad arm injury, nasty divorce, bouts with alcoholism, etc. I would also recommend Shepard's 80s/90s band, V3. re: Pere Ubu 'The Modern Dance' >This was the one I was looking at in the store yesterday. Almost walked out >with it, but thought I'd ask first. They also had a used copy of 'Raygun >Suitcase' or something, which I think is much more recent. Yeah, definitely pick up a copy of 'The Modern Dance'. A classic album. Their more recent stuff can be hit-or-miss, but some of it is surprisingly good ... >>Jim Jones is an extremely cool musician who has played in a *lot* of great >>bands from Cleveland, including the VU/Floyd-influenced Mirrors (who were >>covering "Ejection" within weeks of the release of 'Captain Lockheed'), > >That sounds interesting...any in-print CD reissues of that stuff? The 'Those Were Interesting Times' CD on Scat records has recordings by Mirrors & the Styrenes. Mirrors' version of "Ejection" can be found on one of the volumes of the 'Hawkwind Covers All' tapes (hmmm ... I wonder who could have put it there?). >>Funny how all those >>ex-Pere Ubu guys are turning into synth players (drummer Anton Fier, >>probably most famous for his Golden Palaminos "supersession"-type band, > >He was in the original Feelies (another VU-influenced band), as well as >playing with Bob Mould at some point. I've seen a list of all the bands/session work he's worked with over the years - literally hundreds! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Wed Apr 26 19:19:35 2000 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve P.) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 00:19:35 +0100 Subject: HW: Lucky Lief In-Reply-To: <20000426182056.F7103@telepres.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Apr 2000 18:20:56 -0400, you sent through the ether: >They screwed up the wrong half of your order :-) "Live at QEH" >is great! Hello.. :) Well, some good news, if you like the live QEH Calvert album you`ll *really* like the Live Calvert show I`m going to upload to the ICU website soon.. (tease tease) it`s from the same tour, but we`d actually learned the songs, the playing is more muscular and the blasted drum machine much less annoying.. Stay tuned... -S. From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Wed Apr 26 19:47:09 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:47:09 -0400 Subject: OFF: summer upstate NY shows Message-ID: For everyone on BOC-L who lives along the Thruway or in the Toronto area, here are some upcoming shows you might be interested in. Looks like a great summer for music! May 4 Apples in Stereo-- Mohawk Place, Buffalo Reverend Horton Heat-- The Tralf, Buffalo May 6 Gas Giants-- RIT, Rochester May 15 Tony Levin-- Milestones, Rochester May 16 Tony Levin-- Valentine's, Albany May 28 (this may have been a mistake- more probable on Aug. 28) Gov't Mule-- NYS Fairgrounds, Syracuse May 31 Legendary Pink Dots-- Water St. Music Hall, Rochester June 9 Steve Miller Band/Gov't Mule-- Artpark, Lewiston June 16 SMB/Gov't Mule-- Saratoga Springs PAC, Saratoga Springs June 23 Todd Rundgren-- Westbury Music Fair, Westbury July 2 Savoy Brown feat. Kim Simmonds-- Econolodge (?!?), Oswego July 3-5 Musicstock 2000 (Sloterdijk)-- Cayuga County Fairgrounds, Weedsport Theo: did you get your free tickets for this? July 8 Molly Hatchet-- TBA, Buffalo July 15 Eric Burdon & the New Animals-- NYS R&B fest. in Clinton Sq., Syracuse July 16 Taj Mahal-- Brown Sq. Park, Rochester Yes/Kansas-- Saratoga Springs PAC, Saratoga Springs July 26 Ozzfest (Queens of the Stone Age)-- Saratoga Springs PAC, Saratoga Springs July 27 Kings X-- Northern Lights, Clifton Park July 28 Jethro Tull-- Finger Lakes PAC, Canandaigua July 29 Allman Bros.-- Saratoga Springs PAC, Saratoga Springs August 2 Allman Bros.-- P&C Stadium, Syracuse ----- Brian Halligan mailto:blackblade at bhalligan.com http://www.bhalligan.com/ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Apr 26 22:08:53 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 02:08:53 +0000 Subject: OFF: summer upstate NY shows Message-ID: Brian Halligan wrote: > For everyone on BOC-L who lives along the Thruway or in the Toronto area, > here are some upcoming shows you might be interested in. Looks like a great > summer for music! [...] > May 28 (this may have been a mistake- more probable on Aug. 28) > Gov't Mule-- NYS Fairgrounds, Syracuse No, it's May 28 according to the official Mule WWW site. (It's slated as "WAQS Festival," so it may be a truncated show...) Cheers, Paul. NP: Pink Floyd, _Is There Anybody Out There?_ (disc 2) -- e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Wed Apr 26 23:05:34 2000 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 22:05:34 -0500 Subject: OFF: Spacerock hits Minneapolis Message-ID: Thought I'd pass on a note about an upcoming spacerock show in Minneapolis. "DANCING WITH ALIENS" ATMA from Nebraska Tom Spacey from Chicago Gentle Tasaday from Minneapolis Thursday May 18 at the 7th Street Entry. Anybody know anything about Atma or Tom Spacey? From mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM Thu Apr 27 01:25:17 2000 From: mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM (Matthew Braun) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 00:25:17 CDT Subject: BOC: Re: MFSL _BOC/T&M_ deleted? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 21 Apr 2000 05:00:03 CDT." <200004210900.FAA21332@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Paul Mather writes: >So, I'm assuming that with the demise of MFSL, that album (and the >_Agents of Fortune_ MFSL remaster) can now be considered deleted. > >Get 'em while you can! Yep, indeed. If you're desperate for copies, check out Music Direct, (www.amusicdirect.com) though they'll cost you $50 apiece. (Ever the paranoid, I bought spare copies when I heard MoFi bit the dust, before the price flew through the roof. :-) ) They do sound much better than the Columbia versions. Or you can check out ebay, and usually get things for more reasonable prices. I see there's a copy of MoFi AOF that's currently going for $20. m@ From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Apr 27 03:33:22 2000 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 03:33:22 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 4/22/00 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" airs every Sat evening from 5-8pm PST on 88.3fm KUCR. For comments, questions, requests to be added or removed from this mailing list, e-mail: chuckrecs at aol.com. Thanks, Chuck WEB-RADIO INSTRUCTIONS FOR WINAMP : 1) Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to hear KUCR. http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your computer. After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program (Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the following http://www.kucr.org:8000 Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up, double click again to reconnect. 4/22/00 (still a 2-hour show, should be back to 3 by summer) 1.Korai Orom--Track #3 (1997) 2.ST-37--Tentacle Like Fibers (I Love to Talk...) 3.Neu!--Lila Engel (Neu! 2) 4.Hawkwind--Uncle Sam's on Mars (Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures) 5.Voco Kesh--Track #6 (Smile! and Point at the Mountain?) 6.Irmin Schmidt/Bruno Spoerri--Rapido de Noir (Toy Planet) 7.Vas Deferens Orchestra--Boarding Instructions for Bird Carousels (Sweat Your Cheeses...) 8.Chrome--Chromosome Damage (Alien Soundtracks, Chrome Box) 9.Tangerine Dream--Movements of a Visionary (Phaedra) 10.Children of Dub--Colocado (Amberdelic Space 2 comp) 11.Word of Life--To Dust (...Dust) 12. " " " --Sunrise ( " ) 13.Future Sound of London--Slider (ISDN) 14.Hawkwind--Master of the Universe (Greast Truckers Party comp, etc) 15.Anubian Lights--South of Dashur (Let Not the Flame Die Out) 16.Architectural Metaphor--Brainticket (Odysseum Galacti, Space Box comp) Thanks, Chuck From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Thu Apr 27 03:41:01 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 09:41:01 +0200 Subject: HW:HIGH TIDE:Interesting Times Message-ID: Hello all, Found this yesterday in a record-shop: -HIGH TIDE:Interesting Times AKARMA AK 091 Seems like to be coming from Italy,rather new too,must say have heard better ones from High Tide (although I'm only listening for the first time now) Only 2 members: TONY HILL:lead/rhythm,12-string & bass guitars,vocals SIMON HOUSE:violin,mandolin,keyboards,bassguitar,drum programming,engineering & production Did anyone knew this existed? greetings filip hawknut -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Apr 27 04:51:05 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:51:05 +1000 Subject: PXR 5 CD Message-ID: Latest in recent batch of things-to-turn-up in my process of re-acquiring CD versions of my old vinyl, is PXR 5 (cheers, Paul, if you're on this list). Whereas I'm very happy to have this, and the overall quality of the sound is excellant, I'm left with the same question as per Lucky Lief (though more so, in this case) - why did they have to frig around with a perfectly good album? Where did this remix/re-arrangement of 'High Rise' come from? IMHO it's markedly inferior to the original, particularly in the vocal dept. On the vinyl version Calvert sounds nicely manic, with that frothing-at-the-mouth sort of edge to his delivery. On this one, other than having acquired an annoying echo, the vocals are (for Bob) relatively anaemic and lacklustre. It sounds more like a demo. And why the hell did whoever re-mixed this album decide to jack up the instrument levels in the last minute of the title track? I'm sure it must have seemed like a good idea at the time. Must have been his faourite part of the song. Griffin - if you are listening, and intend to re-release this album, please restore it to its original form! Are there similar differences between the vinyl and Virgin CD of the Hawklords album? Finally, I'm now convinced that the definitive version of 'Uncle Sam' is on the Stonehenge 1977 CD-R (originally Weird 102/3 from memory). Calvert at his most ferocious, Simon House hammering his keyboard like it's a rhythm guitar, and the song hurtles along; all sharp edges and electricity. Nothing wrong at all with the PXR 5 version, and it does have the nice spoken section about Drum Majorettes, but it does seem a bit sedate compared with that other live take. Anyway, just my 2c. I guess there are people who grew up with the CD version of High Rise, and prefer it, but it was a bit of a shock for me. -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Apr 27 04:52:15 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:52:15 +1000 Subject: HW: PXR 5 CD (read first) Message-ID: Sorry - forgot to put the HW prefix on the original of this post. If you get both, would you mind responding to this one, as I won't see replies to the other. Latest in recent batch of things-to-turn-up in my process of re-acquiring CD versions of my old vinyl, is PXR 5 (cheers, Paul, if you're on this list). Whereas I'm very happy to have this, and the overall quality of the sound is excellant, I'm left with the same question as per Lucky Lief (though more so, in this case) - why did they have to frig around with a perfectly good album? Where did this remix/re-arrangement of 'High Rise' come from? IMHO it's markedly inferior to the original, particularly in the vocal dept. On the vinyl version Calvert sounds nicely manic, with that frothing-at-the-mouth sort of edge to his delivery. On this one, other than having acquired an annoying echo, the vocals are (for Bob) relatively anaemic and lacklustre. It sounds more like a demo. And why the hell did whoever re-mixed this album decide to jack up the instrument levels in the last minute of the title track? I'm sure it must have seemed like a good idea at the time. Must have been his faourite part of the song. Griffin - if you are listening, and intend to re-release this album, please restore it to its original form! Are there similar differences between the vinyl and Virgin CD of the Hawklords album? Finally, I'm now convinced that the definitive version of 'Uncle Sam' is on the Stonehenge 1977 CD-R (originally Weird 102/3 from memory). Calvert at his most ferocious, Simon House hammering his keyboard like it's a rhythm guitar, and the song hurtles along; all sharp edges and electricity. Nothing wrong at all with the PXR 5 version, and it does have the nice spoken section about Drum Majorettes, but it does seem a bit sedate compared with that other live take. Anyway, just my 2c. I guess there are people who grew up with the CD version of High Rise, and prefer it, but it was a bit of a shock for me. -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Apr 27 05:58:11 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 10:58:11 +0100 Subject: PXR 5 CD In-Reply-To: Tim Gadd's message of Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:51:05 +1000 Message-ID: Tim Gadd writes: > why did they have to frig around with a perfectly good > album? Where did this remix/re-arrangement of 'High Rise' come from? IMHO Great Hawkwind Mysteries #326 > Are there similar differences between the vinyl and Virgin CD of the > Hawklords album? No. > Anyway, just my 2c. I guess there are people who grew up with the CD version > of High Rise, and prefer it, but it was a bit of a shock for me. Ditto. > Tim Gadd FoFP From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Thu Apr 27 06:43:49 2000 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:43:49 +0200 Subject: HW: PXR 5 CD (read first) In-Reply-To: <20000427085213.UCGK14975.mta02.mail.mel.aone.net.au@Defaul t> Message-ID: Hi The HIGH RISE version on the CD is different to the vinyl one UNCLE SAM, HIGH RISE and ROBOT are NOT from STONEHENGE 77 and NOT from LONDON 77 and LEICESTER 77 Bernhard From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Apr 27 07:26:16 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 07:26:16 EDT Subject: OFF: summer upstate NY shows In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000426191438.00975180@mail.tricreations.com> Message-ID: On 26 Apr 00, at 19:47, Brian Halligan wrote: > For everyone on BOC-L who lives along the Thruway or in the Toronto > area, here are some upcoming shows you might be interested in. Looks > like a great summer for music! > > > May 6 > Gas Giants-- RIT, Rochester > Heard good things on this list about 'em. You going, Brian? > May 15 > Tony Levin-- Milestones, Rochester > Who's with him? Love to go, but mid-week gigs are a bear for this old wheezer... > May 28 (this may have been a mistake- more probable on Aug. 28) > Gov't Mule-- NYS Fairgrounds, Syracuse > More than likely right, but GM does real well in Syr. I'll be at this one hell or high water! > July 3-5 > Musicstock 2000 (Sloterdijk)-- Cayuga County Fairgrounds, Weedsport > Theo: did you get your free tickets for this? Still procrastinating, but I'm def. going. Looks to be a killer show! > August 2 > Allman Bros.-- P&C Stadium, Syracuse This is strange, as they're a fixture at the State Fair. But I'll be at this one. You going? theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Apr 27 07:27:13 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 07:27:13 EDT Subject: OFF: summer upstate NY shows In-Reply-To: <3907A135.A398F695@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> Message-ID: On 27 Apr 00, at 2:08, Paul Mather wrote: > Brian Halligan wrote: > > > For everyone on BOC-L who lives along the Thruway or in the Toronto > > area, here are some upcoming shows you might be interested in. Looks > > like a great summer for music! > [...] > > May 28 (this may have been a mistake- more probable on Aug. 28) > > Gov't Mule-- NYS Fairgrounds, Syracuse > > No, it's May 28 according to the official Mule WWW site. (It's slated > as "WAQS Festival," so it may be a truncated show...) > Paul, any word who else is playing, start time etc? Love to see this one... theo From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Apr 27 07:55:16 2000 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 07:55:16 -0400 Subject: Metallica SUCKS! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Are these "Metallica sucks" still going on after, what, at a good ten years? Hasn't it all been said before? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Apr 27 07:39:07 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 07:39:07 -0400 Subject: PXR 5 CD Message-ID: >> Anyway, just my 2c. I guess there are people who grew up with the CD version >> of High Rise, and prefer it, but it was a bit of a shock for me. It's the only version I have or have heard... I rather like it, it's my favorite track on the cd... "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Apr 27 08:27:11 2000 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 08:27:11 -0400 Subject: BOC: Re: MFSL _BOC/T&M_ deleted? In-Reply-To: <200004270525.AAA17028@chestburster.urbana.css.mot.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Matthew Braun wrote: => Paul Mather writes: => >So, I'm assuming that with the demise of MFSL, that album (and the => >_Agents of Fortune_ MFSL remaster) can now be considered deleted. => > => >Get 'em while you can! => => Yep, indeed. If you're desperate for copies, check out Music Direct, => (www.amusicdirect.com) though they'll cost you $50 apiece. (Ever the => paranoid, I bought spare copies when I heard MoFi bit the dust, before => the price flew through the roof. :-) ) Well, a bit of your paranoia must have rubbed off on me, m@, because the weekend after I got the cancellation notice for my CDNow order, I headed on down to Best Buy in Roanoke and plopped down $25 for one of the two copies I'd remembered seeing there last time I was browsing. I figured "once bitten, twice shy..." The biggest problem was seeing MoFi releases of other albums I like on the shelf, and suppressing the "should I?" urge to buy whilst I still could. Let the record show that I exercised exemplary restraint. :-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." --- Frank Vincent Zappa From pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Apr 27 08:54:51 2000 From: pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM (Juba N) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:54:51 GMT Subject: HW:HIGH TIDE:Interesting Times Message-ID: Hi! It?s just great.I bought my copy when it was released in the 80`s and I just think it?s great.Not as good as the first two,but it really shows what a good musician Simon H is. For being from the early 80`s when drum machines where awful it has IMO it sounds OK to me and I hate drum machines. I wish I could find this one on CD. Cheers, Juba >Hello all, > >Found this yesterday in a record-shop: >-HIGH TIDE:Interesting Times AKARMA AK 091 > >Seems like to be coming from Italy,rather new too,must >say have heard better ones from High Tide (although I'm only >listening for the first time now) >Only 2 members: >TONY HILL:lead/rhythm,12-string & bass guitars,vocals >SIMON HOUSE:violin,mandolin,keyboards,bassguitar,drum >programming,engineering & production > >Did anyone knew this existed? > >greetings >filip hawknut > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Apr 27 10:55:14 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:55:14 +1000 Subject: HW: PXR 5 CD (read first) Message-ID: At 12:43 PM 4/27/00 +0200, Bernhard Pospiech wrote: >Hi > >The HIGH RISE version on the CD is different to the vinyl one > >UNCLE SAM, HIGH RISE and ROBOT are NOT from STONEHENGE 77 and NOT from >LONDON 77 and LEICESTER 77 I've noe idea where they're from. I was just saying my fave version of Uncle Sam is on the weird 103 tape/stonehenge 77 CD, wherever that was in fact recorded. The version of High Rise on PXR 5, though I couldn't swear to it without hearing the original, seems to be basically the same recording as the vinyl, but with different vocal tracks and a generally different mix. Could be wrong about that though. Does anyone _prefer_ this version, as a matter of interest? -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Apr 27 12:28:10 2000 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:28:10 +0100 Subject: HW:HIGH TIDE:Interesting Times In-Reply-To: <000a01bfb01c$14f77dc0$c4a808d4@d8o7x0> Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Filip Vanhuyse wrote: > Found this yesterday in a record-shop: > -HIGH TIDE:Interesting Times AKARMA AK 091 > > Seems like to be coming from Italy,rather new too,must say have heard > better ones from High Tide (although I'm only listening for the first > time now) Only 2 members: TONY HILL:lead/rhythm,12-string & bass > guitars,vocals SIMON HOUSE:violin,mandolin,keyboards,bassguitar,drum > programming,engineering & production Had heard of it: I believe it dates to 1989, though where I got the information from I couldn't tell you; possibly Delerium's old psychedelic archive. Hadn't realised it was just they two though. They had another similar one out a few years later called _Reason of Success_, from 1990, and Tony Hill has had two more since then, _A Fierce Nature_ and _Ancient Gates_, both of which are House-less. There are also two out-takes albums from 70/71, _Precious Cargo_ and _Flood_ which do have Simon on but are still of unknown quality as far as I'm concerned. Recent years have been quietly good for High Tide fanatics. Yours, Jon ObTape: Nirvana - _Nevermind_ -- | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Apr 27 13:08:47 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:08:47 -0400 Subject: BOC - Orlando Message-ID: Apparently they're opening for Joe Walsh. "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Apr 27 13:54:59 2000 From: ian at ABRAHAMSI.FREESERVE.CO.UK (IAN ABRAHAMS) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:54:59 +0100 Subject: HW: PXR 5 CD (read first) Message-ID: The vinyl version of High Rise from PXR5 is on the "Spirit of the Age" Charisma years compilation CD I think (BP - is this right?) Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Gadd To: Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 3:55 PM Subject: Re: HW: PXR 5 CD (read first) > At 12:43 PM 4/27/00 +0200, Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > >Hi > > > >The HIGH RISE version on the CD is different to the vinyl one > > > >UNCLE SAM, HIGH RISE and ROBOT are NOT from STONEHENGE 77 and NOT from > >LONDON 77 and LEICESTER 77 > > I've noe idea where they're from. I was just saying my fave version of Uncle > Sam is on the weird 103 tape/stonehenge 77 CD, wherever that was in fact > recorded. The version of High Rise on PXR 5, though I couldn't swear to it > without hearing the original, seems to be basically the same recording as > the vinyl, but with different vocal tracks and a generally different mix. > Could be wrong about that though. Does anyone _prefer_ this version, as a > matter of interest? > -- > Tim Gadd > Hobart, Tasmania > From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Thu Apr 27 14:09:23 2000 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 20:09:23 +0200 Subject: HW: PXR 5 CD (read first) In-Reply-To: <002201bfb071$b5aefb80$76b8883e@oemcomputer> Message-ID: At 18:54 27.04.2000 +0100, you wrote: >The vinyl version of High Rise from PXR5 is on the "Spirit of the Age" >Charisma years compilation CD I think (BP - is this right?) Sorry Ian, I do not have this CD Bernhard From Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Apr 27 14:23:03 2000 From: Rainer.Wangler at T-ONLINE.DE (WANGLER) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 20:23:03 +0200 Subject: HW: PXR 5 CD (read first) Message-ID: IAN ABRAHAMS schrieb: > The vinyl version of High Rise from PXR5 is on the "Spirit of the Age" > Charisma years compilation CD I think (BP - is this right?) > > Ian >Yes the version on the spirit of the age CD is the vinyl version and I think that is an studio version. Rainer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tim Gadd > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: HW: PXR 5 CD (read first) > > > > At 12:43 PM 4/27/00 +0200, Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > > >Hi > > > > > >The HIGH RISE version on the CD is different to the vinyl one > > > > > >UNCLE SAM, HIGH RISE and ROBOT are NOT from STONEHENGE 77 and NOT from > > >LONDON 77 and LEICESTER 77 > > > > I've noe idea where they're from. I was just saying my fave version of > Uncle > > Sam is on the weird 103 tape/stonehenge 77 CD, wherever that was in fact > > recorded. The version of High Rise on PXR 5, though I couldn't swear to it > > without hearing the original, seems to be basically the same recording as > > the vinyl, but with different vocal tracks and a generally different mix. > > Could be wrong about that though. Does anyone _prefer_ this version, as a > > matter of interest? > > -- > > Tim Gadd > > Hobart, Tasmania > > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Apr 27 14:28:25 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 19:28:25 +0100 Subject: HW: PXR 5 CD (read first) In-Reply-To: IAN ABRAHAMS's message of Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:54:59 +0100 Message-ID: IAN ABRAHAMS writes: > The vinyl version of High Rise from PXR5 is on the "Spirit of the Age" > Charisma years compilation CD I think (BP - is this right?) Yes, and also on Tales From Atomhenge and the 25 Years On 4-CD set. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Apr 27 14:30:00 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 19:30:00 +0100 Subject: HW: PXR 5 CD (read first) In-Reply-To: WANGLER's message of Thu, 27 Apr 2000 20:23:03 +0200 Message-ID: >From the latest Codex: High Rise L 1 Weird 103 - Free Festivals L 1 Hawkwind Live at Stonehenge and Watchfield L 1 a The Best and the Rest of Hawkwind L 1 a The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. I L 1 a The Hawkwind Anthology 1967-1982 [Castle 2CD] L 1 a Acid Daze Vol. I L 1 a Best of Hawkwind L 1 a Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) L 1 a Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] L 1 a Master of the Universe [Laserlight compilation CD] L 1 b Castle Masters Collection L 1 b Hawkwind Anthology triple CD box set [Castle Communications] 2 PXR5 [LP only] 2 Repeat Performance 2 Spirit of the Age [Charisma Compilation] 2 Tales From Atom Henge 2 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] 3 PXR5 [CD only] 3 Epoch Eclipse 30 Year Anthology 4 Hawkwind Live at the Bottom Line 5 The Hawklords Live * 1a is a remix of 1 * versions 1,2 and 3 are from the same tour * Version 2 appeared on the PXR5 LP. Version 3 appeared on the PXR5 CD. * 1b the sound of an explosion at the end of version 1 and 1a has been cut out in editing (see British Tribal Music) * This track is listed but not present on The Ambient Anarchists From denis at D-RIDER.DE Thu Apr 27 16:16:36 2000 From: denis at D-RIDER.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:16:36 +0200 Subject: PXR 5 CD In-Reply-To: <200004271139.HAA12906@issfire2.co.palm-beach.fl.us> Message-ID: At 07:39 27.04.00 -0400, Andrew A. Apold wrote: > >> Anyway, just my 2c. I guess there are people who grew up with the CD > version > >> of High Rise, and prefer it, but it was a bit of a shock for me. > >It's the only version I have or have heard... The same with me. Perhaps some kind soul is able to put up an mp3 of the original vinyl-version? >I rather like it, it's my favorite track on the cd... It's my favourite track at all. best regards D+R -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabha www.d-rider.de From timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Apr 27 16:52:47 2000 From: timnjaq at TSTEPHENSON.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Tim Stephenson) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 21:52:47 +0100 Subject: Metallica SUCKS! Message-ID: >Are these "Metallica sucks" still going on after, what, at a good ten years? Hasn't it all been said before?< Hi Carl, long time no hear (or is that 'read') anyway, arent you taking the short view here? I thought Metallica were an offshoot of the Vandals who settled in the Sahara and had difficulty in finding water. Often they had to take reeds and push them well down into the sand; thus Metallica sucks. T np, Grieg, Peer Gynt Suite No2 From ciwsolutions at BREATHEMAIL.NET Thu Apr 27 20:25:40 2000 From: ciwsolutions at BREATHEMAIL.NET (ciwsolutions) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 01:25:40 +0100 Subject: OFF: Fushitsusha/GYBE/Meltzer Book Message-ID: This should certainly be of interest to a few folks - though once again I'm too skint! Advertised in the latest issue of "The Wire": FUSHITSUSHA ONLY UK Concert "The heaviest, most exciting band in the Japanese underground music scene. 'Effective, spooky, disembodied and paralysingly loud.' - New York Times" Monday 22nd May, 7:30 p.m. The Garage, London ?12 advance Info: 0208 963 0940 Also, same issue has huge Godspeed You Black Emperor article/interview, reviews of Cope's "Cornucopea" at the South Bank & "A Whore Just Like The Rest: The Music Writings Of Richard Meltzer" ChrisW From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Apr 27 19:48:37 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 19:48:37 -0400 Subject: OFF: Spacerock hits Minneapolis Message-ID: Dan asked... >"DANCING WITH ALIENS" > > >ATMA from Nebraska >Tom Spacey from Chicago >Gentle Tasaday from Minneapolis > >Thursday May 18 at the 7th Street Entry. > >Anybody know anything about Atma or Tom Spacey? 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Jerry Kranitz (jkranitz at aural-innovations.com) Aural Innovations SpaceRock e-zine http://Aural-Innovations.com From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Apr 27 21:31:42 2000 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert Bouchard) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 21:31:42 -0400 Subject: OFF: BOC / Iron Maiden Message-ID: direstr8s wrote: > hi, > Is there a connection between BOC and Bruce Dickinson (present vocalist for > Iron Maiden)? > I mean...HE produced don't fear...the best of. > it's weird because he's not mantioned anywhere whit BOC.... > i won't some answers :) Well, I "won't" deny you! Not the same BD (one is American, the other English), and I don't mean Dharma! From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Thu Apr 27 22:49:38 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:49:38 -0400 Subject: OFF: upstate NY summer shows Message-ID: Theo wrote: >> May 6 >> Gas Giants-- RIT, Rochester > >Heard good things on this list about 'em. You going, Brian? I'd like to. I have to see how my schedule unfolds. I'm definately going to see the Apples in Stereo in Buffalo on the 4th. > > May 15 > > Tony Levin-- Milestones, Rochester > > >Who's with him? Love to go, but mid-week gigs are a bear for this >old wheezer... >From www.tonylevin.com: >Tony Levin Waters of Eden tour >featuring Jerry Marotta, Larry Fast and Jesse Gress Who are these guys? I hope Larry Fast is a guitar player. ;-) >> May 28 (this may have been a mistake- more probable on Aug. 28) >> Gov't Mule-- NYS Fairgrounds, Syracuse >> >More than likely right, but GM does real well in Syr. I'll be at this one >hell or high water! Thanks Paul for straightening the date out. I don't know if I'll be there or not Theo. I might catch them with the Steve Miller Band later on. >> July 3-5 >> Musicstock 2000 (Sloterdijk)-- Cayuga County Fairgrounds, Weedsport >> Theo: did you get your free tickets for this? > >Still procrastinating, but I'm def. going. Looks to be a killer show! Is it getting promoted in Syracuse? I haven't seen or heard anything here, but I haven't been looking hard either. >> August 2 >> Allman Bros.-- P&C Stadium, Syracuse > >This is strange, as they're a fixture at the State Fair. But I'll be at >this >one. You going? Well, I've never been to an Allmans show, believe it or not, so this looks like a great opportunity! Tomorrow I'm getting my tickets for Jethro Tull at Finger Lakes. I saw them at the Landmark Theater last year and they put on the best show of the three I've seen since 1994. Apparently it's called the "One Leg to Stand On" Tour. Yikes! ;-) Brian ----- Brian Halligan mailto:blackblade at bhalligan.com http://www.bhalligan.com/ From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Apr 28 03:55:15 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:55:15 +0100 Subject: OFF: Fushitsusha/GYBE/Meltzer Book Message-ID: Well, if you want to catch Mr Gilham, we know where he'll be on the 22nd... :-) Cheers, R. ----- Original Message ----- From: ciwsolutions To: Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 1:25 AM Subject: OFF: Fushitsusha/GYBE/Meltzer Book This should certainly be of interest to a few folks - though once again I'm too skint! Advertised in the latest issue of "The Wire": FUSHITSUSHA ONLY UK Concert "The heaviest, most exciting band in the Japanese underground music scene. 'Effective, spooky, disembodied and paralysingly loud.' - New York Times" Monday 22nd May, 7:30 p.m. The Garage, London ?12 advance Info: 0208 963 0940 Also, same issue has huge Godspeed You Black Emperor article/interview, reviews of Cope's "Cornucopea" at the South Bank & "A Whore Just Like The Rest: The Music Writings Of Richard Meltzer" ChrisW __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From m.s.wright at READING.AC.UK Fri Apr 28 04:50:40 2000 From: m.s.wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 09:50:40 +0100 Subject: HW:HIGH TIDE:Interesting Times In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Jon Jarrett wrote: > On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Filip Vanhuyse wrote: > > ....High Tide ..... > > Only 2 members: TONY HILL:lead/rhythm,12-string & bass > > guitars,vocals SIMON HOUSE:violin,mandolin,keyboards,bassguitar,drum > > programming,engineering & production > > Had heard of it: I believe it dates to 1989, though where I got > the information from I couldn't tell you; possibly Delerium's old > psychedelic archive. Hadn't realised it was just they two though. They had > another similar one out a few years later called _Reason of Success_, > from 1990, In fact Reason of Success has 5 tracks on it, one of which has House. The line up is Garage Gods, Hill, House, Theaker Elephant Trails, Hill, Theaker, Dave Tomlin (violin) The Whid, Hill, Pavli, Theaker Raga Misra, Hill, Tomlin, Android Funnel (bass), Theaker Turn YOurself Down, Hill, Pavli, Tomlin, Theaker and my copy is on World Wide Records. Mike w From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Apr 28 04:54:39 2000 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 09:54:39 +0100 Subject: OFF: Fushitsusha/GYBE/Meltzer Book In-Reply-To: <012701bfb0e7$1c1538b0$3d01a8c0@tpd.co.uk> Message-ID: Uh - this is the first I heard of it! Sounds good though! BTW, two interesting books just turned up from Amazon - Mike Moorcock's KING OF THE CITY, and the aforementioned Meltzer A WHORE JUST LIKE THE REST. And Mr Mick Farren finally sent me the copy of BARBARIAN PRINCES he promised last year... ;) -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.andy.gilham.btinternet.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Richard Lockwood > Sent: 28 April 2000 08:55 > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Subject: Re: OFF: Fushitsusha/GYBE/Meltzer Book > > > Well, if you want to catch Mr Gilham, we know where he'll be on > the 22nd... > > :-) > > Cheers, > > R. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ciwsolutions > To: > Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 1:25 AM > Subject: OFF: Fushitsusha/GYBE/Meltzer Book > > > This should certainly be of interest to a few folks - though once > again I'm > too skint! > > Advertised in the latest issue of "The Wire": > > FUSHITSUSHA > ONLY UK Concert > > "The heaviest, most exciting band in the Japanese underground music > scene. 'Effective, spooky, disembodied and paralysingly loud.' - New York > Times" > > Monday 22nd May, 7:30 p.m. > The Garage, London > ?12 advance > Info: 0208 963 0940 > > Also, same issue has huge Godspeed You Black Emperor article/interview, > reviews of Cope's "Cornucopea" at the South Bank & "A Whore Just Like The > Rest: The Music Writings Of Richard Meltzer" > > ChrisW > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Apr 28 09:04:04 2000 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:04:04 -0500 Subject: HW: [Fwd: Woronzow News] Message-ID: Newsletter from Ade Shaw at Woronzow Records with mention of Tony Hill and Simon House! -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Woronzow News Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:32:15 +0100 From: Woronzow Records To: "'Woronzow Records'" Greetings all, Just a bit about upcoming Woronzow gigs. This is the state of play at the moment: 4th May, 2000 - The Famous Old Alehouse, Salisbury - Lucky Bishops 7th May, 2000 Standard Music Venue, Walthamstow, London - The Bevis Frond, Alchemyst and Lucky Bishops 11th May, 2000 - Gelsenkirchen Kaue, Germany - The Bevis Frond, Alchemyst and Lucky Bishops 12th May 2000 - Bielefeld Forum, Germany - The Bevis Frond, Alchemyst and Lucky Bishops 13th May, 2000 - Swamp Room Happening, Hanover, Germany - The Bevis Frond, Alchemyst and Lucky Bishops 18th May, 2000 - Finnm'couls, Weymouth - Lucky Bishops 27th May, 2000 - Alchemysts with Monkey Wrench, London, venue currently unknown (thanks Paul) see London press for details 16th June, 2000 - Royal Oak, Bridport - Lucky Bishops 23rd June, 2000 - Finnm'couls, Weymouth - Lucky Bishops 27th June, 2000 - The Borderline, London - The Lucky Bishops & the Alchemysts plus? 7th July, 2000 - Finnm'couls, Weymouth - The Lucky Bishops 13th July, 2000 - The Bowling Green, Exeter - The Lucky Bishops 3rd August, 2000 - The Garage, London - The Lucky Bishops & the Alchemysts Plus Nick and I did an interview with Yahoo when we were in Austin, Texas for the SXSW festival recently and it is now up on Yahoo's website. We also perform a couple of songs acoustically. If you want to view it just click on: www.broadcast.com/music/interviews/bevisfrond There are 4 options for viewing this depending on the speed of your modem. If you have an ISDN or better you'll get perfect graphics, if not try the bottom right of the 4 options, jerky graphics but good sound. Also our good friend Nick Bensen has compiled a very nice Woronzow page on his superb Free City Media site. If you open: FreeCityMedia.com. on your web browser it'll take you there. Whilst I'm on the subject you might want to check out Nick Bensen's excellent "Psychedelic Juggernaut" CD. Nick S., Andy Ward and myself have been in the studio recording the new Frond album and all indications are that it's going to be a corker. I still can't believe quite how prolific Nick is in the songwriting department. We had 23 brand new songs to choose from and would have had more if I hadn't put a cover over his cage. Hope to see some of you at the Standard Music Venue on the 7th May and some of our German friends between the 11th and 13th of May (see gig guide above). Last but not least Acid Jam 2 is nearing completion and now has a lineup of: Nick Saloman, Andy Ward, Ade Shaw, Ric Gunther, The Lucky Bishops, Paul Simmons, Tony Hill, Rustic Rod Goodway, Jon Guard, Debbie Saloman, Mat Love, Simon House, Bari Watts, Steve Broughton and the very wonderful Grenville Hammond. It should be out in 3-4 weeks and will be CD only. PLUS All the way from Australia, Vic Conrad and the First Third's debut album is due out around the same time. It'll be on CD Digipak and 180 Gm vinyl and is a superb mixture of melodic quirkiness. We will inform you of the exact release date of these records as soon as we know them. NOT TO MENTION The heaviest album of the Millenium (so far, anyway) "Scorched Earth" will be out soon along with the latest solo outing from the Alchemysts, "Zero Zen". Does life get any better than this? ONE LAST THING, honest, My very old friend and High Tide's main man, Tony Hill, has been located by low-flying aircraft in south east London. Nick and I took him over to our favourite Goldust Studio and with the help of Andy Ward recorded a couple of tracks for Acid Jam 2. We were delighted to find his extraordinary talent is still in one piece and as a result are planning a brand new Tony Hill album. He's currently working on the songs and we should be in the studio soon. We are hoping Pete Pavli, High Tide's bassist extrordinaire, will also be part of this project. Incidentally, if you've never heard High Tide check out either of their first 2 albums, Sea Shanties and High Tide. They are both wonderful and two of both Nick and my favourite all-time albums. That's all for now, thanks for sticking it out to the end, if you'll pardon the expression, All the best, Ade Woronzow Records Woronzow website - www.woronzow.co.uk From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Fri Apr 28 09:45:54 2000 From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 09:45:54 -0400 Subject: OFF: upstate NY summer shows In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000427223823.009748b0@mail.tricreations.com> Message-ID: Brian Wrote: (snip) >>>From www.tonylevin.com: >>Tony Levin Waters of Eden tour >>featuring Jerry Marotta, Larry Fast and Jesse Gress >Who are these guys? I hope Larry Fast is a guitar player. ;-) Larry Fast: solo artist and keyboardist of a band called Synergy Larry, Jerry and Tony are all veterans of Peter Gabriel solo tours. Hope this helps. (snip) Mike Habiby From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Apr 28 09:58:11 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 09:58:11 EDT Subject: OFF: upstate NY summer shows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 794 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET Fri Apr 28 10:03:47 2000 From: cableshoppe at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:03:47 -0400 Subject: OFF: upstate NY summer shows In-Reply-To: <200004281358.JAA01484@syr.edu> Message-ID: Yes they are coming to SPAC in the Albany area as well. Sheesh. On could have hoped the big hair bands died with big hair. Oh well Michael S. Habiby VP Sales and Marketing the CableShoppe, inc. One Prospect Ave. Albany, NY 12206 (800) 386-2300 (518) 489-0269 - fax cableshoppe at global2000.net or mhabiby1 at nycap.rr.com ________________________ -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Ted Jackson jr. Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 8:58 AM To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Subject: Re: OFF: upstate NY summer shows On 28 Apr 00, at 9:45, Michael S. Habiby wrote: > Brian Wrote: > > (snip) > > > > >>From www.tonylevin.com: > >>Tony Levin Waters of Eden tour > >>featuring Jerry Marotta, Larry Fast and Jesse Gress > > >Who are these guys? I hope Larry Fast is a guitar player. ;-) > > Larry Fast: solo artist and keyboardist of a band called Synergy > Larry, Jerry and Tony are all veterans of Peter Gabriel solo tours. > > Hope this helps. > Hey, with all this mention of upstate NY shows, how come everyone is ignoring the MUST-SEE gig of the summer: Power to the People: Motley Crue, Poison, Slaughter, Anthrax et al! I swear I'm not kidding--ads on the Syr radio... theo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From micci at SCI.FI Fri Apr 28 10:07:46 2000 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 17:07:46 +0300 Subject: HW:HIGH TIDE:Interesting Times Message-ID: Hi! I have original italy pressing. There is no year printed anywhere, so I can?t tell when it?s came out. Different sleeve anyway. >On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Filip Vanhuyse wrote: > >> Found this yesterday in a record-shop: >> -HIGH TIDE:Interesting Times AKARMA AK 091 >> >> Seems like to be coming from Italy,rather new too,must say have heard >> better ones from High Tide (although I'm only listening for the first >> time now) Only 2 members: TONY HILL:lead/rhythm,12-string & bass >> guitars,vocals SIMON HOUSE:violin,mandolin,keyboards,bassguitar,drum >> programming,engineering & production > > Had heard of it: I believe it dates to 1989, though where I got >the information from I couldn't tell you; possibly Delerium's old >psychedelic archive. Hadn't realised it was just they two though. They had >another similar one out a few years later called _Reason of Success_, >from 1990, and Tony Hill has had two more since then, _A Fierce Nature_ >and _Ancient Gates_, both of which are House-less. There are also two >out-takes albums from 70/71, _Precious Cargo_ and _Flood_ which do have >Simon on but are still of unknown quality as far as I'm concerned. Recent >years have been quietly good for High Tide fanatics. Yours, > Jon > >ObTape: Nirvana - _Nevermind_ >-- > | Jon Jarrett (01223 741219) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | > | ======================================================================| > | "Now, back me up on this, but isn't it always the same? You've just | > | got on the phone and the bath starts running? Back me up!" Harry Hill | > Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Apr 28 10:09:21 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:09:21 EDT Subject: OFF: upstate NY summer shows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 28 Apr 00, at 10:03, Michael S. Habiby wrote: > Yes they are coming to SPAC in the Albany area as well. > > Sheesh. On could have hoped the big hair bands died with big hair. > Oh well > Hey, you've gotta drag Jason to this gig! His review would be the event of the summer... theo From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Apr 28 10:25:03 2000 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Richard Lockwood) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 15:25:03 +0100 Subject: OFF:More Napster (sorry!) Message-ID: I see Dr Dre is also suing Napster. Full story at http://entertainment.msn.com/news/eonline/0427/napstersuit.asp Cheers, Rich. ObCD: Chris Matthews and Kevin Buxton - 'Exercises at the Bar' __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Fri Apr 28 10:59:42 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:59:42 -0400 Subject: OFF: upstate NY summer shows Message-ID: You wrote: > From: "Ted Jackson jr." > To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU > Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:09:21 EDT > Subject: Re: OFF: upstate NY summer shows > On 28 Apr 00, at 10:03, Michael S. Habiby wrote: > > > Yes they are coming to SPAC in the Albany area as well. > > > > Sheesh. On could have hoped the big hair bands died with big hair. > > Oh well > > > Hey, you've gotta drag Jason to this gig! His review would be the > event of the summer... ha! that would require me not falling asleep during the show. cuz you know the fumes from the hair spray can make one lightheaded. As an antidote Get Wayne Kramer's LLMF CD, its live, a bit too clean for brother wayne but good performances. I NEED TO ROCK. ROCK AND ROLL. Q: What was the setlist at the acoustic Brain Surgeons show ? also, Deborah Frost is being interviewd on the Music Street Journal ezine. kick out the jams an' all that, Jason From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Apr 28 10:03:01 2000 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (K Henderson) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:03:01 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dark Star on the road Message-ID: Hi Folks... For those of you in the UK that are interested in these folks. This is the ex-Levitation Dark Star of course, i.e., Bic et al. Grakkl (FAA) MAY 1. Edinburgh Venue 2. Northumbria University 3. Liverpool Lomax 5. Hull University 6. Sheffield Leadmill 7. Norwich Waterfront 8. Portsmouth Wedgewood Rooms 10. London ULU 11. Leicester University 12. Northampton Roadmender 13. Coventry Colosseum Be quick, there may still be a few tickets left! So keep your eye on the website http://www.dark-star.co.uk where you will shortly be able to see a clip from the video. From lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Apr 28 11:14:27 2000 From: lupercal at GEOCITIES.COM (Tim Gadd) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 01:14:27 +1000 Subject: HW: Russian flexis details Message-ID: This is the email address of the dealer who has those 8 or 9 russian HW flexi singles. Go for your life; I've decide not to get them. Colin Hayes Tim -- Tim Gadd Hobart, Tasmania From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Apr 28 11:26:00 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 16:26:00 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Discography Message-ID: I've been working bringing this up to date. What's left to be done is the "related" stuff - which Jon's files will help with. However they don't include pre-Hawkwind stuff. What might be worth a try is to ask folks on the list to chip in with a little effort of their own? The format is pretty straightforward, so if I could ask you just to amend the relevant section for your fave ex-hawks and email a text-only copy back to me to update the files, you too can have your place in keeping the Hawk-online library the resource it is. P.S: The Codex is now also up to date to cover the recent track difference discoveries and new albums up to the Thrilling Hawkwind Adventures. Those who want their own copy, or one to mount on a public server, please email me. Thanks in advance for any efforts on the discography - remember, even if you only add one line - it all helps. I thought I'd also add a Hawkwind Covers section, so if any of you have files on that, please email 'em in. Cheers FoFP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I. Dave Brock 1969 The Buskers (EMI) [LP pressing of a buskers concert featuring pre-Hawkwind Brock] [only one Brock track] Bring it on Home 1983 Social Alliance/ Raping Robots in the Street - (also on pic disc with "Zones" cover) 1983 Zones/ Processed (Hawkfan release) 1984 Earthed to the Ground (Flicknife) Earthed To The Ground Assassination Green Finned Demon Spirits Sweet Obsession Oscillations Machine Dream Now Is The Winter Of Our Discontent On The Case 1988 The Agents of Chaos (Flicknife) Hi Tech Cities A Day In the Office Hades Deep Words of a Song Heads Nocturne Wastelands of Sleep Empty Dreams Into the Realms Mountain in the Sky 1989 Dave Brock & the Agents of Chaos [Flicknife CD] [Compilation of "Earthed to the Ground" and "The Agents of Chaos"] [Two songs missing - Into the Realms & Mountain in the Sky] Earthed to the Ground Assassination Green Finned Demon Spirits Sweet Obsession Oscillations Machine Dreams Winter of Our Discontent On the Case Hi-Tech Cities A Day In the Office Hades Deep Words of a Song Heads Nocturne Wastelands Empty Dreams 1995 Strange Trips And Pipe Dreams Hearing Aid Test White Zone U.F.O. Line Space Pipe Dream Self Something's Going On Bosnia Parasites Are Here On Earth Gateway It's Never Too Late La Forge Encounters 1999 The Elf and the Hawk CD * Produced by Brian Tawn of "Hawkfan" Burn Me Up (Dave Brock) Dave Brock also appeared on: Get Out on the Road [by Dumpy's Rusty Nuts - Features track "Hawkwind"] Blues Anytime Volume 2. [Dave on two Dharma Blues Band tracks] Dealing With The Devil Roll 'em Pete White Boy Blues CD (Castle) [with Dharma Blues Band] Roll 'em Pete Best of British Blues Vol 1 II. Robert Calvert 1973 Ejection/Catch a Falling Starfighter 7" (UA) 1974 Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters [LP, CD] (UA) Franz Joseph Strauss, Defence Minister, reviews the Luftwaffe in 1958. Finding it somewhat lacking in image potential. The Aerospaceage inferno Aircraft salesman (a door in the foot) The Widow Maker Two test pilots discuss the Starfighter's performance The Right Stuff Board Meeting (seen through a contract lense) The song of the Gremlin (part one) Ground crew (last minute reassembly before take off) Hero with a Wing Ground Control to pilot Ejection Interview I resign The song of the Gremlin (part two) Bier Garten Catch a falling Starfighter 1975 Lucky Leif and the Longships (UA) Ship Of Fools (Calvert) The Lay Of The Surfers(Calvert) Voyaging To Vinland (Calvert) The Making Of Midgard (Calvert) Brave New World (Calvert) Magical Potion (Calvert) Moonshine In The Mountains (Calvert) Storm Chant Of The Skraelings (Calvert) Volstead O Vodeo Do (Calvert) Phase Locked Loop (Calvert) Ragna Rock (Calvert) 1979 Cricket Star (floppy single) (Wake Up Records) 1980 Lord of the Hornets/ Greenfly and the Rose 1980 7" (Flicknife) 2 pic sleeves 1981 Hype LP (A Side/See For Miles) 2 different sleeves Over My Head (Calvert) Ambitious (Calvert) It's the Same (Calvert) Hanging out on the Seafront (Calvert) Sensitive (Calvert) Evil Rock (Calvert) We Like to be Frightened (Calvert) Teen Ballad of Deano (Calvert) Flight 105 (Calvert) The Luminous Green Glow of the Dials of the Dashboard (at Night) (Calvert) Greenfly and the Rose (Calvert) Lord of the Hornets (Calvert) 1985 Freq [LP] (Flicknife) Ned Lud (Calvert) Talk 1 Acid rain (Calvert) Talk 2 All the Machines are Quiet (Calvert) Talk 3 Standing on the Picket Line (Calvert Talk 4 The Cool Courage of Bomb Squad Officers (Calvert) Talk 5 Work Song (Calvert) 1986 Test Tube Conceived [LP, CD] In Vitro Breed The Rah Rah Man Telekinesis I Hear Voices Fanfare for the Perfect Race On Line Save Them From the Scientists Fly on the Wall Thanks to the Scientists Test Tube Conceived 1987 The Cellar Tapes 1 [cassette only] 1987 The Cellar Tapes 2 [cassette only] 1989 Robert Calvert at the Queen Elizabeth Hall (Live 1980) [LP box set contained badge and t-shirt] Evil Rock Catch a Falling Starfighter Gremlins Aerospaceage Inferno Test Tube Conceived Working Down a Diamon Mine All the Machines are Quiet Work song Telekinesis Acid Rain Lord of the Hornets * Clear Records Memorial Album 1992 Revenge [cassette - with Adrian Shaw, Pete Pavli, and Simon House] Revenge Bugatti Fascism/Futurism Isadora Turn the Tape Over Vol.2 1992 Freq Revisited CD (Flicknife) ned ludd talk 1 acid rain talk 2 all the machines are quiet talk 3 picket line talk 4 the cool courage of the bomb squad officers talk 5 work song lord of the hornets the greenfly and the rose 1992 Blueprints From The Cellar CD (BGO) (The Cellar Tapes I & II) All The Machines Are Quiet (Calvert) Work Song (Calvert) Subterraneans (Calvert) Soweto (Calvert) Radio Egypt (Calvert) Over The Moon (Calvert) Hidden Persuasion (Calvert) Re-Wind (Calvert) Working Down a Diamond Mine (Calvert) Thanks To The Scientists (Calvert) I Hear Voices (Calvert) Acid Rain (Calvert) Fly On The Wall (Calvert) Standing On The Picket Line (Calvert) The Ra Ra Man (Calvert) Ned Ludd (Calvert) Marathon Man (Calvert) 1998 An Evening With The Action Man [CD-R] (Live in Leicester 11/6/86 and London 1/13/87) Ned Ludd Acid Rain Work Song Re-Wind Ship of Fools Damnation Alley All the Machines Are Quiet Orgone Accumulator Evil Rock Lord of the Hornets Catch a Falling Starfighter/ Gremlin/ Aerospaceage Inferno Quark, Strangeness and Charm Radio Egypt Working in a Diamond Mine Days of the Underground 1998 The Hawkwind Connection [CD-R] (with Michael Moorcock) (Calvert Demos 1976 & 1992 + Moorcock Demos 1992) Calvert: The Greenfly and the Rose Lord of the Hornets Revenge Fascism & Futurism Bugatti Isadora Messengers of Morpheus/ Solstice Stranger in a Strange Land Steppenwolf Moorcock: Another Quiet Day in Auschwitz Starcruiser Dodgem Dude Brothel in Rosenstrasse Good Girl, Bad Girl Time Centre My New Knife Peter the Vulture Intro Mental Harlequin Bob Calvert also appeared on: "Die Losung" by Amon Duul "Down to Earth" by Nektaar "Mazin Ennit" by John Stevens Away [1976] "Ersatz" by Imperial Pompadours [with Inner City Unit] "Distances Between Us" by Adrian Wagner III. The Huw Lloyd-Langton Group 1977 Widowmaker - Too Late to Cry [UA/Jet] Too Late to Cry The Hustler What a Way to Fall Here Comes the Queen Mean What You Say Something I can Do Without Sign the Papers Pushin' and Pullin' Sky Blues 1978 Widowmaker [JET LP15] Such a Shame Pin a Rose on Me On the Road Straight Faced Fighter Ain't Telling You Nothing When I met You Leave the Kids Alone Shine a Light on Me Running Free Got a Dream 1978 [Widowmaker] Pin A Rose On Me/On the Road 7" (Jet) 1983 Wind of Change/ Outside the Law 7" (Flicknife) 1983 Outside The Law [LP (Actually HLL solo album: Flicknife. (Originally with free single. Recorded Live Brentford '83) Outside the Law (M. Lloyd Langton) Five to Four (H. Lloyd Langton) Talk to You (M. Lloyd Langton) Rocky Paths (M. Lloyd Langton/H. Lloyd Langton) Space Chase (H. Lloyd Langton) Waiting for Tomorrow (H. Lloyd Langton/M. Lloyd Langton) Mark of Gain (H. Lloyd Langton) Psychedelic Warlords (Brock) 1984 Working Time/I See You 7" [free with Outside the Law LP] 1984 Dreams that Fade Away/ It's On Me (12 inch only, Ultra Noise 1984) 1985 Night Air (Flicknife) Night Air Before is Over Got your Number Painted Evergreen Fur Kirsty Diseased Society Alien Jiggers Lonely man Candle Burning Lunar-Tic 1986 Like An Arrow (Straight Through The Heart) LP (Gas) (Two different sleeves) Strange Times I Could Cry (All tracks credited to Like An Arrow H. Lloyd-Langton and So Long Waiting M. Lloyd-Langton) On The Move No Mans Land Voices That Fade Wars Are The Hobby There Take A Back Step In Their Eyes Can You Feel 1988 Space, Time and L.L.G. (GWR) It's A Work of Art Walk A While In the Sun Spoonful of Injustice Mirror Image Could Be A Poor Man Market of Death Can We Be Free Night Crusader I Can See The Day Break City of the Future 1991 Elegy CD (Allegro) Shine A Light (H. Langton) The Night's Young (H & M. Langton) Nature Calls (H & M. Langton) Damn Shame (H.Langton) Little Girl (H. Langton) Bird of Fantasy (H & M. Langton) Farewell (H.Langton) Angel of Ice and Steel (H.Langton) Crazy Days (H.Langton) Elegy (H.Langton) 1994 River Run Dancing in the Rain All Jigged Up Suffer in Silence The Wall Came Tumbling Down Louise River Run Waiting For Whom the Bell Tolls 1998 On the Move Huw Lloyd-Langton also played on: "The Blue Zone" by Nic Potter [1990] "Fresh Blood" by Steve Swindells "Dreamscape" by Dr.Brown IV. Nick Turner's Inner City Unit 1979 Solitary Ashtray/So Try Asid 7" (Riddle) 1980 Paradise Beach/Amyl Nitrate 7" (Riddle) 1980 Pass Out (Riddle) Space Invaders Watching the Grass Grow Polyethylene Solitary Ashtray OB City Muse Brainstorm (Man) Cybernetic Love Cars Eat With Autoface Fallout Nuclear Waste Master the Universe Amyl Nitrate 1981 Beer, Baccy, Bingo & Benidorm/In the Mood 7" (Avatar) 1981 Bones of Elvis/Sid's Song 7" (Avatar) 1981 Maximum Effect (Avatar) (Features Capt. Sensible of The Damned) Bones of Elvis (Reeves/Turner) Man of Steel (Turner/Thoms/Reeves) Beer, Baccy, Bingo & Benidorm (Reeves/Thoms/Turner/Erba) Virgin Love (Turner/Reeves/Thoms/Erba) Two Worlds (Thoms/Reeves) In The Mood (Nude) (Razas/Garland) Epitaph to the Hippies (Thoms) Sid's Song (Reeves) Night Life (Reeves/Thoms/Turner) Remember (Walking in the Sand)/Margate Beach (Romeo/Turner) Skinheads in Leningrad (Thoms/Turner) Metal (Turner/Thoms) 1982 Raj Neesh/Human Beings 7" 1982 Punkadelic [Reprinted a couple of tracks off the now deleted _Pass Out_] (Flicknife) Watching the Grass Grow Space Invaders Polyethylene Cars Eat With Autoface God Disco Disco Tango Gas Money Alright on the Flight Blue Rinse Haggard Robot Bildeborg 1984 New Anatomy (Demi Monde) [also features Dave Anderson] Young Girls (Turner) Convoy (Reeves/Turner/Pond) Beyond the Stars (Pond) Help Sharks (Turner/Reeves) Birdland (Reeves) Lonesome Train (On A Lonsome Track) (Moore/Sabotsky) Forbidden Planet (Turner/Reeves) Stop the City (Reeves/Langdon) Doctor Strange (Reeves/Turner) Wildhunt (Turner/Reeves) Hectic Electric 48K (Pond) (Also titled Spectrum Program, Load It Don't Hate It. A computer program for the Sinclair Spectrum which gives details about ICU.) 1985 The President's Tapes (Flicknife) Stonehenge, Who Knows? (Reeves/Turner) President's Tape (Reeves/Pond/Lee/Turner) Newspeak (Reeves/Pond/Lee/Turner) Europeville (Reeves/Turner) Fungus Among Us (Unknown) ICU (Reeves/Thoms) World of LSD (Unknown) Bigfoot (Pond) Zodiac (Reeves) 1985 Blood and Bone 12" (Jettisoundz) Blood and Bone (Pond/Reeves/Turner/Lee) Hurricane Fighter Plane (Thomson/Cunningham/Barthelme) Brand New Cadillac (Taylor) Paint Your Windows White (Reeves/Pond/Turner/Lee) Little Black Egg (Conlon) 1982 Ersatz - Imperial Pompadours - (Features ICU, Robert Calvert, Pete Pavli, Barney Bubbles and Krankschaft Kabaret) (Pompadour) The Crusher (Nolan) See You Soon Baboon (Unknown) Don't Fool With Fu Manchu (Stone/Schatz) Brand New Cadillac (Taylor) I Want To Come Back From LSD (Unknown) Little Black Egg (conlon) Moo Goo Gai Pan (Slay/Crewe) I Took A Trip On A Gemini Spacecraft (Cowboy) Light Show (Kar) Chicken (Smith/Goldsmith) There's A Fungus Among Us (live) (Unknown) I'm A King Bee (live) (Moore) Black Leather Trousers and Motorcycle Boots (live) (Lieber/Stoller) Insolence Across The Nation - Live At Krankschaft Kabaret (Imperial Pomapdours) 1989 Passout [Oldhitz CD OLD 001] Space Invaders Watching The Grass Grow Polly Ethylene Solitary Ashtray O.B. City Muse Brainstorm Cybernetic Love Cars Eat With Autoface Fallout Nuclear Waste Master Of The Universe Amyl Nitrate us tracks:] Paint Your Windows (Demo Version) Spirit Of The Age (Live, Salford University, 19th February 1985) Bones Of Elvis (As track 14) Rock N Roll (Live, Solihull 1981) Space Invaders (Early live demo version) Zodiac (Rehearsal, Blackboard London '85) Stonehenge (As track 18) Costa Del Dub (Essex, Feb 86) Nik Turner's Hawkwind: 1995 Nik Turner's Space Ritual [with Del Dettmar and Alan Powell] Ghost Dance Watching The Grass Grow D-Rider Master Of The Universe Sonic Attack Thoth King God Rock - Slo Blo Serenade Throw Away the Rind Utopia 2000 Brainstorm Ejection The Awakening The Right Stuff Armour For Everyday Nirbrasion Annasion You Shouldn't Do That TV As Eyes Orgone Accumulator Silver Machine 1995 Thoth (Pyramid Power Mix)/ Lunar Sea 7" White Label [with Simon House] 1995 Space Ritual Live 1994 Video Ejection D-Rider Master of the Universe The Awakening The Right Stuff Armour For Everyday Nibrasion Annasion You Shouldn't Do That Thoth Silver Machine 1996 Past or Future [with Del Dettmar, Simon House, Moorcock & Alan Powell] Dream Worker Kadu Flyer Lord of the Hornets Warriors on the Edge of Time Spiral Galaxy 28948 Dying Seas Soul Herder Opa-Loka 2000 10 Seconds To Forever Ejection Audio Energy High Rise Silver Machine You Shouldn't Do That 1996 Sonic Attack 2001 (with Del Dettmar and Simon House) Horus (mirage Mix) Master of the Universe Sonic Attack The Weighing of Heart and negative Confession (Travel Mix) Anubian Light Destiny Opa-Loka You Shouldn't Do That Grid Coordinate: Vorp One Thoth Arc of Ra Nik Turner's Pinkwind 1995 Festival of the Sun [Live CD at The Mill, Preston 30/8/93] God Rock Cosmic Rock & Roll Stonehenge '95 Silver Machine Master of the Universe Rainbow Ron Call of the Tribes 1996 The Hawkfairies: Purple Haze (Recorded Peterborough, 15/4/95) Masters of the universe Space rock 1999 and 7 months Thoth Brainstorm Foxy Lady Purple Haze D-Rider Stormbringer Video 1985 Blood and Bone - with 3 tracks Inner City Unit Tape Bootlegs: 1981 Stonehenge [Recorded 21/6/81, excellent quality] [Needs songlist] 1985 Manchester Cloud Nine Club [Video exists, high quality bootleg] [Needs songlist] Nik Turner's Sphynx: 1978 Xitintoday The Awakening (Life on Venus) The Pyramid Spell The Hall of Double Truth Anubis Thoth Horus Isis & Nepthys Osiris God Rock (The Awakening) 1978 Unreleased Studio Material, November 1978 [Cassette release] On the Edge Sonic Savages Devas Holographic Lover Waves Chronological Crime Aggro Otters Autumn Desire Morning Ginger Atlantis 1993 Prophets of Time [Also features Simon House] Prophecy (Del Rio, Grenas, fox) Watching the Grass Grow (Turner) Children of the Sun (Turner,Anderson) Strontium 90 (Turner) Communique (Turner) Chances Lost (Moorcock, Del Rio, Grenas, Fox) Stonehenge, Who Knows? (Turner) Cybernetic love (Turner) Armor For Everyday (Moorcock, Del Rio, Grenas, Fox) Bones of Elvis (Turner) Walking in the Sky (Turner, Del Rio, Grenas, Fox) Lunar Sea (House) Fallout (Turner) Andromeda (Bubbles, Del Rio, Grenas, Fox) Space Station Announcement (P.Orrige, Del Rio, Grenas, Fox) 1993 Sphynx CD (Cleopatra) (re-recorded version of Xitintoday) The Awakening (Turner/James) Thoth (Turner/Del Rio/Grenas/Creed) God Rock (Turner/James) Anubis (Turner/Del Rio/Grenas) Isis and Nephthys (Turner/Del Rio/Grenas) Pyramid Spell (Turner/James) Osiris (Turner/James) The Hall of double Truth (Turner/James) The Weighing of the Heart and Negative Confession (Turner/James/Grenas/Del Rio/Creed) Horus (Turner/Del Rio/Grenas) Original Sounds From The Great Pyramid (Turner) The Anubian Lights 1995 The Eternal Sky [with Simon House and Del Dettmar] Breaking the Seal Soul Herder Anubian Light Destiny Grid Coordinate - Vorp One Jackal and Nine Trismegistus Pulse of the Nile Arc of Ra Medulla Mirage The Various Hazards of Being in the Underworld Field of Reeds 1995 The Jackal And Nine EP (With Simon House and Del Dettmar) Jackal And Nine (Biocosmic Energy Mix) 12-24-2011 The Ba & The Ka Soul Herder (live) Pulse of the Nile (Power of the Z-PH Mix) Arcing Into an Infinite Galaxy Jackal And Nine (Ramses II Mix) Nik Turner also plays on: Terminal Velocity LP [Big Amongst Sheep] Astroprop EP [Big Amongst Sheep] The Game [Sham 69] Tell the Children/Jack 7" [Sham 69] Fairy Tales [Mother Gong 1979] Nuclear Waste/Digital Love 7" [Radio Actors 1979] Nuke/Nuclear Waste [Fast Breeder and The Radio Actors] 39 Converts [The New Blood Transmission, 1988] Judgement And Thunder [Cassette only release with Trevor Thoms] A Saucerful of Pink [Compilation of Pink Floyd covers] Flux [The Moor] V. Michael Moorcock's Deep Fix 1975 The New World's Fair (UA) Candy Floss Cowboy Candy Floss Cowboy (demo) [CD Only] Fair Dealer Octopus Sixteen Year Old Doom You're a Hero Song for Marlene Come to the Fair Starcruiser [CD Only] In the Name of Rock and Roll Ferris Wheel Last Merry Go Round Dude's Dream (Rolling in the Ruins) Brothel In Rosenstrasse [CD Only} 1980 Dodgem Dude/ Starcruiser 7" (Flicknife) 1982 The Brothel In Rosenstrasse/ Time Centre 7" (Flicknife) only 500 made 1992 The Brothel in Rosenstrasse [cassette - with Adrian Shaw] The Brothel in Rosenstrasse Good Girl, Bad Girl Another Quiet Day in Auschwitz At the Time Centre Turn the Tape Over Vol.1 1998 The Hawkwind Connection [CD-R] (with Robert Calvert) (Calvert Demos 1976 & 1992 + Moorcock Demos 1992) Calvert: The Greenfly and the Rose Lord of the Hornets Revenge Fascism & Futurism Bugatti Isadora Messengers of Morpheus/ Solstice Stranger in a Strange Land Steppenwolf Moorcock: Another Quiet Day in Auschwitz Starcruiser Dodgem Dude Brothel in Rosenstrasse Good Girl, Bad Girl Time Centre My New Knife Peter the Vulture Intro Mental Harlequin Mike Moorcock also played on: Lucky Leif and the Longships [Bob Calvert] Hype [Bob Calvert] Past Or Future [with Nik Turner, Del Dettar, Simon House & Alan Powell] VI. Tim Blake 1977 Crystal Machine (Egg) Midnight Metro Logic Last Ride of the Boogie Child Synthese Intemporel Crystal Presence 1978 Blake's New Jerusalem (Barclay Towers/Egg - with insert and lyrics) Song for a New Age Lighthouse Generator - Laser Beam Passage Sur La Cite Des Revelations Blake's New Jerusalem * (*****GREAT***** electronic album) 1977 Sintesis Intemporel 1/Sintesis Intemporel 2 [Spanish 7"] (Egg) 1978 Generator - Laser Beam/Woodland Voice [7" single] (Egg) 1991 Magick CD (Voiceprint) A Magick Circle Tonight The Strange Secret of Ohm-Gliding A Return to Clouds Waiting for Nati A Dream More Magick With You Tim Blake also appeared on: "Flying Teapot" by Gong "Angels Egg" by Gong "You" by Gong "Gong Live Etc." by Gong "Vive Gong...Gong Est Mort" by Gong "Live at the Bataclan 1973" by Gong "Live at Sheffield 1974" by Gong "Clearlight Symphony" by Clearlight "Les Contes Du Singes Fou" by Clearlight "Surf/Birdsong" single by Saratoga Space Messengers "Fish Rising" LP with Steve Hillage "It's All Too Much"/Shimmer" 7" with Steve Hillage (Tim B-side only) "Delereid Chameleon Family" LP (label is Pathe/Marconi - French) "Paragong Live '73" by Paragong "V" Compilation (Virgin 1975) "Gong - 25th Birthday Party" VII. Steve Swindells (ex keysman) 1974 Messages (RCA) Miles Away Again Energy Crisis The Earl's Court Case Living In Sin I don't Like Eating Meat Shake Up Your Soul Surrender I Can't See Where the Light Switch Is Messages from Heaven 1974 Energy Crisis/Shake Up Your Soul 7" 1980 Fresh Blood [With Simon King and Huw Lloyd Langton] Turn It On, Turn It Off Fresh Blood I Feel Alive Low Life Joe Bitter and Twisted Don't Wait On the Stairs Is It Over Now? Down on Love Street Figures of Authority Shot Down In the Night 1980 Shot Down in the Night/It's only one Night of Your Life 7" (Atco) [with Simon King and Huw LLoyd Langton] 1980 Turn it On, Turn it Off/Low Life Joe 7" (Atco) [with Simon King and Huw LLoyd Langton] VIII. Del Dettmar Melodic Energy Commission (Del Dettmar) - Synthesis Return of Wolf Chicks Experiment # 28 It's an Idea Improvisation # 1 Out There Somewhere Back on Course Planets in Transit ???? M=E/C^2 ???? Melody is Energy/Night Rhythm 7" 1979 Stranger in Mystery (Energy) Silver Spider Scientific Stranger in Mystery Day on gate Street - Then Night No Familiar Planets Tonight Song of the delatron Revise the Scene 1980 Migration of the Snails [Paul Rudolph also appears on this one] (Energy) Plight of the Dodo Galloop Periwinkle Street Rider From Nempett Thrubwell Escargot Off on a Current Gastropods in Transit Doorway into Summer 1998 Moon Phase Compendium (Compilation culled from Migration of Snails and Stranger in Mystery) Del Dettmar also appeared on: "The Eternal Sky" {Anubian Lights with Nik Turner and Simon House] "The Jackal And Nine" {Anubian Lights EP with Nik Turner and Simon House] "Solar Wind" {Spiral realms live with Simon House} "Nik Turner's Space Ritual" {With Nik Turner and Alan Powell} "Past or Future" {with Nik Turner, Simon House, Moorcock & Alan Powell] "Sonic Attack 2001" {Nikwind with Nik Turner and Simon House} IX. Alan Davey 1987 Solar Jig/Cosmic Dawn 7" (from Brian Tawn) 1987 Chinese Whispers/Ode to a Bass Assassin/The Switch 7" (Brian Tawn) 1987 The ELF EP Double 7" Solar Jig Cosmic dawn Chinese Whispers Ode to a Bass Assassin The Switch (Don't Touch) 1996 Captured Rotation The Call Never Comedown Higher Than Before Ancient Light Space Bass Hawkestrel Nebula Thunderbird A Nova-Drive Spacial Wave Quirk Pre-Med 1998 Bedouin (Also with Danny Thompson) Rock Palace Wadi Dhar Passion is an Animal Alhadan Space Rock Cafe One Moon Circles Queen of the Night Eyes in the Dark Sand Devil 1998 Sci-Fi-Delic Sci-Fi-Delic Vulcan Ritual Interceptor Holosuite Program Eagle Alpha 1999 The Elf and the Hawk CD * Produced by Brian Tawn of "Hawkfan" Davey tracks are: Solar Gig (Alan Davey) Cosmic Dawn (Alan Davey) Chinese Whispers (Alan Davey) Ode To A Bass Assassin (Alan Davey) The Switch (Don't Touch...) (Alan Davey) Fractal Hunter (Alan Davey) Space Rock (Alan Davey) Alan Davey also featured on: Firkin Well Live [Dumpy's Rusty Nuts - has tracks "Hawkwind" and "Silver Machine"] X. Harvey Bainbridge ???? Made in Cornwall [Ark] 1983 Mamissi [Alman Mulo band] cassette only 1985 Orisha [Alman Mulo band] cassette only Electonique Too Late! A Touch Like Ice Let Up! Choko Drives In (Toad On The Road) Antario Old Man From Japan Partie D'Afrique Automind 1986 Invisible warrior [Alman Mulo band] cassette only 1991 Afrodiziac [Alman Mulo band] cassette only (Taste) It's up to You (intro) Cinshe Bane It's up to You It Could be Day Water What's in it for Me? All at Sea Peaches are Free Warriors of Ancient Times Say Goodbye No Hay Calabaza 1993 Interstellar Chaos Mistiness in Orion Caught in an Interstellar Net 1 Caught in an Interstellar Net 2 Cosmic Junk Clouds of Venus Dense Dust The Sun in Hydrogen Light Gravitational Pull Voyager II Voyager I In the Wake of Passing Clouds Heading: Cygnus X-1 Sunspot in H-Alpha Light Light Curve Star Cloud Cosmic Bubble Lost Orbit 1994 Diamonds and Toads [Alman Mulo Band] (Taste) CD Nolo Asaqui Just Knockin' Look At His Face Smart Drinks in the DNA Lounge An Integrated Smart Dream Emergency Battersea Power Station To Hell in a Handbag Hammer That Nail Gone Home 1997 Red Shift Solar Drive Down And He Smoked His Pipe and Talked to Them Cygnus Loop Blue Giant Horseshoe and the Swan 1,000% Solution Long Lines at the Double Helix Bar Out on the Surface XI. Adrian Shaw 1996 Tea For The Hydra Son of Sam Heart of Stone Falling I'm Glad I'm Me Teeth of The Hydra Roger's in a Home Machine Music Red and Grey Iron Curtain Trillib Live for the Day 1998 Displaced Person Adrian Shaw also appeared on: 1987 Laughs & Thrills Live 1972 [Magic Muscle] cassette album only 1987 Two True Believers [Jellymasters, with Simon House] 1988 The Pipe, The Roar, The Grid [Magic Muscle Band] 1989 One Hundred Miles Below [Magic Muscle, also with Simon House] 1989 Ptolemaic Terrascope #2 [free EP - 1 Shaw, 2 pavli tracks] 1989 Various [Woronzoid 2LP - 1 Shaw track] 1990 Living Weeds from Ancient Seeds [Magic Muscle cassette box] 1990 Ear Song [Bevis Frond - 12"] 1991 Gulp (Magic Muscle, also with Simon House. Initial copies came with a poster) 1991 Aerial Dance [Adrian Shaw] 1991 New River Head [Bevis Frond - 2LP] 1993 Revenge [Rober Calvert - cassette only] 1993 Brothel in Rosenstrasse [Michael Moorcock - cassette only] XII. Dave Anderson 1970 Yeti [Amon Duul II] 1972 Hawk Meets Penguin [Amon Duul II] 1982 Meetings with Menmachines, Inglorious Heroes of the Past [Amon Duul II] 1985 Ballet Dancer [by 4X] 1986 Back Against The Wall [Groundhogs] Dave Anderson also appeared on New Anatomy [Inner City Unit] XIII. Keith Hale 1974 To Keep From Crying [Comus] ???? Blood Donor [Blood Donor] ???? Rubber Revolution/Chemical babies 7" [Blood Donor] 1989 The Space Cadets [LP] Keith Hale also played in Toyah Wilcox's band XIV. Simon House 1970 Precious Cargo Live Jam [High Tide] 1991 Gulp (Magic Muscle, also with Adrian Shaw. Initial copies came with a poster) Frank Hailer Of Taxis Spaced And Displaced Pipecall Umbrellamental Psymonic Leaders 1995 Yassasim Yassasim Orion Northlands Omedlor Rides Again Laithwaite Star Drive Neuroscape Sherwood Oldayze 1994 Trip To G9 [Spiral Realms] A Trip To G9 Elements II Red Ginat Tritium 1000 Years Under Solar Sails Solar Flares 1995 Crystal Jugles of Eos [Spiral Realms] Cysysrgy Rush Hour Betelgeuse 5 View From Canymede Sands of Mars SF67 Crystal Jungles of Eos Solar Wind Parsecs Ice Riders of Charon 1996 Solar Wind [Spiral Realms live] (also featuring Del Dettmar) Cysurgy Lunar Sea 1000 years Under Solar Sails Tritium Solar Wind Del dettmar Improvisation The Forge of Vulcan Interstellar Overdrive 1969 Sea Shanties [High Tide] ???? High Tide 3 [High Tide] cassette only 1970 Sinister Morning [Denny Gerrard] 1970 High Tide [High Tide] 1972 Music From MacBeth [Third Ear Band] 1986 Interesting Times [High Tide] 1987 Two True Believers [Jellymasters, with Adrian Shaw] ???? Lodger [David Bowie] ???? Boys Keep Swinging 7" [David Bowie] ???? Experiences [Third Ear Band compilation] ???? Stage [David Bowie] ???? Tin Drum [Japan] 1986 My Brain's Collapsed [the Tryp - Cassette only] 1987 Interesting Times [High Tide] 1988 The Pipe, the Roar & the Grid [Magic Muscle LP] 1988 Rustic Hinge - Replicas LP 1989 One Hundred Miles Below [Magic Muscle, also with Adrian Shaw] 1990 The Reason for Success [High Tide] 1990 The Flood [High Tide] Simon House also appeared on: "Revenge" by Robert Calvert "Prophets of Time" by Nik Turner "Thoth (Pyramid Power Mix)/Lunar Sea 7" White label by Nik Turner "A Saucerful of Pink" [Compilation of Pink Floyd covers] "The Eternal Sky" [Anubian Lights with Nik Turner and Del Dettmar] "The Jackal And Nine" [Anubian Lights EP with Nik Turner and Simon House] "Sonic Attack 2001" [Nikwind with Del Dettmar and Nik Turner] "Past or Future" (with Nik Turner, Alan Powell, Moorcock & Del Dettmar} XV. Simon King 1970 Groupie Girl/Gigging Song 7" [Opal Butterfly] (Polydor) ???? Mary Anne With the Shaky Hand/My Gration Or? 7" [Opal Butterfly] 19?? Shot Down in the Night/It's only one Night of Your Life 7" [with Steve Swindells and Huw LLoyd Langton] 1980 Turn it On, Turn it Off/Low Life Joe 7" [with Steve Swindells and Huw LLoyd Langton] 1980 Fresh Blood [With Steve Swindells and Huw Lloyd Langton] 1973 Here Comes the Warm Jets [Brian Eno LP - with Paul Rudolph] XVI. Alan Powell ???? Cryin' Over You/Lowlife 7" [Jo Allen And The Shapes] (415 Records) ???? I'm Sorry I'm Sorry/Delay 7" [Tanz Der Youth] (Radar Scope Records) XVII. Crum 1994 Detonator [Moonloonies] Energy Temple Autowave Oort Coud Epsilon Cloned Isostasis Crispy Cosmic Luggage Hear Mass Transfer Skullduggery Skyways Orbital Detonator Celtic Tree XVIII. Paul Rudolph 1970 Never Never Land [Pink Fairies] 1971 What a Bunch of Sweeties [Pink Fairies] 1973 Here Comes the Warm Jets [Brian Eno LP - with Paul Rudolph] 19?? Pink Fairies [Pink Fairies] 1977 Before and After Science [Brian Eno LP - with Paul Rudolph] 1977 Screwed Up 7" [Mick Farren and the Deviants] 1980 Migration of the Snails [Del Dettmar also appears on this one] 1982 Live at the Roundhouse 1975 [Pink Fairies] XX. Lemmy 1968 Escalator [Sam Gopal] Lemmy also appeared on ???? The Psychedelic Salvage Co. Vol 1 [1 Sam Gopal track] ???? The Psychedelic Salvage Co. Vol 2 [1 Sam Gopal track] XXI. Danny Thompson 1998 Skinwalker From Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK Fri Apr 28 13:08:26 2000 From: Steve at DOREMI.CO.UK (Steve P) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 17:08:26 GMT Subject: Hawkwind Discography In-Reply-To: <200004281526.QAA26197@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 16:26:00 +0100, you sent through the ether: >1998 An Evening With The Action Man [CD-R] > (Live in Leicester 11/6/86 and London 1/13/87) Anyone got a copy of this they can copy for me? I`ll reward you with a CD-R of a better gig... :) -S. From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Apr 28 13:37:46 2000 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:37:46 -0400 Subject: OFF: upstate NY summer shows In-Reply-To: ; from cableshoppe@GLOBAL2000.NET on Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 09:45:54AM -0400 Message-ID: On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 09:45:54AM -0400, Michael S. Habiby wrote: > >>Tony Levin Waters of Eden tour > >>featuring Jerry Marotta, Larry Fast and Jesse Gress > Larry Fast: solo artist and keyboardist of a band called Synergy And the reason I'll be at the Toronto gig on this tour. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / to me, Charlie Brown represented the courage to be sincere in the face of ridicule. he was NOT a loser. thank you, Mr. Schulz. - Robert C. Mayo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Apr 28 13:56:19 2000 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr.) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:56:19 EDT Subject: OFF: upstate NY summer shows In-Reply-To: <4.1.20000427223823.009748b0@mail.tricreations.com> Message-ID: On 27 Apr 00, at 22:49, Brian Halligan wrote: > >> May 28 (this may have been a mistake- more probable on Aug. 28) > >> Gov't Mule-- NYS Fairgrounds, Syracuse > >> > >More than likely right, but GM does real well in Syr. I'll be at this > >one hell or high water! > > Thanks Paul for straightening the date out. I don't know if I'll be > there or not Theo. I might catch them with the Steve Miller Band later > on. > This gig is in May. It's WAQX's annual 'Blues, Brews and Barbecues' shindig. Should be a helluva party. Hopefully I can make this one... > >> July 3-5 > >> Musicstock 2000 (Sloterdijk)-- Cayuga County Fairgrounds, Weedsport > >> Theo: did you get your free tickets for this? > > > >Still procrastinating, but I'm def. going. Looks to be a killer show! > > Is it getting promoted in Syracuse? I haven't seen or heard anything > here, but I haven't been looking hard either. > Not really. I heard about it from a copy of The Revolving Door [www.therevolvingdoor.com], a Cortland fanzine of sorts, which also carries info on Syr. gigs... > >> August 2 > >> Allman Bros.-- P&C Stadium, Syracuse > > > >This is strange, as they're a fixture at the State Fair. But I'll be > >at this one. You going? > > Well, I've never been to an Allmans show, believe it or not, so this > looks like a great opportunity! > You won't be disappointed. I hope young Derek Trucks is still along on guitar. He will blow yer mind! theo From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Apr 28 13:41:21 2000 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 13:41:21 -0400 Subject: BOC: - seafest May 6 Message-ID: I balked on the House of Blues show May 5th in orlando after learning it was opening for Joe Walsh, and for $32 per ticket (though it is a terrific venue) when I found out they'd be at Sea Fest at port Canaveral the next night, main act (only one mentioned for Saturday) for a measely 3 bucks, which includes enterance to the fair, too. Anyone else in the area care to hook up there? "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Apr 28 14:32:38 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 11:32:38 -0700 Subject: HW:HIGH TIDE:Interesting Times Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:28:10 +0100, Jon Jarrett wrote: >There are also two >out-takes albums from 70/71, _Precious Cargo_ and _Flood_ which do have >Simon on but are still of unknown quality as far as I'm concerned. I have 'Precious Cargo'. The sound quality is a bit rough (but not bad), but the songs/performances are FANTASTIC! I easily rank it up there with the two "official" albums. I'd say it's essential for serious High Tide/Simon House fans. also, on Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:04:04 -0500, Karen Kusic quoted Ade Shaw : >Incidentally, >if you've never heard High Tide check out either of their first 2 >albums, Sea Shanties and High Tide. They are both wonderful and two of >both Nick and my favourite all-time albums. One of the most flattering things I've ever heard was after Primordial Undermind opened for Bevis Frond at the Insidious Spectacle fest in Philadelphia last September, Nick said to Eric Arn (head Underminder) something along the lines of, "you didn't tell me that you sound like bloody High Tide these days!" (and I'll be the first person to tell you that I'm no Simon House! only in my wildest dreams!) -Doug ceres at sirius.com From scorch at TE-CATS.COM Fri Apr 28 14:40:10 2000 From: scorch at TE-CATS.COM (John H. McCartney) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 11:40:10 -0700 Subject: OFF: upstate NY summer shows Message-ID: > >>From www.tonylevin.com: > >>Tony Levin Waters of Eden tour > >>featuring Jerry Marotta, Larry Fast and Jesse Gress > > >Who are these guys? I hope Larry Fast is a guitar player. ;-) > > Larry Fast: solo artist and keyboardist of a band called Synergy > Larry, Jerry and Tony are all veterans of Peter Gabriel solo tours. Welllll... not *exactly* Jerry Marotta and Larry Fast were in Gabriel's band for the first 4 albums and tours, plus the live album, and did some work on the 5th album as well. (Extra Gabriel band fact: he stole his guitarist, David Rhodes, from the band that opened for him on his 3rd tour, Random Hold. Most excellent dark, bass driven, angst-laden stuff, soon to be released on CD, by their bassist, Bill MacCormick, on Phil Manzanera's label.) Larry Fast *is* Synergy, all by himself. Synergy is all electronic, but more orchestral, less like Tangerine Dream, and predates his involvment with Gabriel. Personal favorite of mine anyway. I got turned onto him at the very early experimental Laserium shows in LA, where the track 'Warriors' from the just-released 1st album was being used as exit music. If you love the sound of a wall'o'Moogs, this is the stuff for you! scorch From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Apr 28 15:11:32 2000 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 12:11:32 -0700 Subject: HW: PXR 5 CD (read first) Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:52:15 +1000, Tim Gadd wrote: > - why did they have to frig around with a perfectly good >album? Where did this remix/re-arrangement of 'High Rise' come from? IMHO >it's markedly inferior to the original, particularly in the vocal dept. On >the vinyl version Calvert sounds nicely manic, with that >frothing-at-the-mouth sort of edge to his delivery. On this one, other than >having acquired an annoying echo, the vocals are (for Bob) relatively >anaemic and lacklustre. It sounds more like a demo. I agree 100%. I prefer the first version of "High Rise". The really strange thing is that the first time I heard the "new" (CD) version of the song was on Nik's 'Past Or Future' tour, where Tommy Grenas sang it as the new version, not the original version. I remember wondering "what's up with THIS arrangement?!?" and only understood once I picked up the 'PXR5' CD a couple years later. >Finally, I'm now convinced that the definitive version of 'Uncle Sam' is on >the Stonehenge 1977 CD-R (originally Weird 102/3 from memory). Calvert at >his most ferocious, Simon House hammering his keyboard like it's a rhythm >guitar, and the song hurtles along; all sharp edges and electricity. Nothing >wrong at all with the PXR 5 version, and it does have the nice spoken >section about Drum Majorettes, but it does seem a bit sedate compared with >that other live take. Damn! I guess I need that album (or for Voiceprint to hurry up with the Collectors' Series Weird Tapes reissues)! Of all the versions of "Uncle Sam" I've heard, the 'PXR5' one is my least favorite. I think I've already stated that I prefer both the "Neu-ish" 1976 version and the "punked-up" Hawklords '78 version (Weird 107? 108?) to the one on 'PXR5' (although I agree about the "Drum Majorettes" rant being very good!). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Apr 28 17:30:58 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 17:30:58 -0400 Subject: OFF: Gas Giants (was upstate NY summer shows) Message-ID: >>> May 6 >>> Gas Giants-- RIT, Rochester >> >>Heard good things on this list about 'em. You going, Brian? > >I'd like to. I have to see how my schedule unfolds. I'm definately going to >see the Apples in Stereo in Buffalo on the 4th. I did some checking and these are *not* the same Gas Giants that were mentioned on the list. They are, in fact, the new band of two former members of "The Gin Blossoms." So, I think I'll be taking the opportunity to unclog my sink that night.... And I forgot to mention that BOC is playing around Buffalo this summer too. Check www.bocfanclub.com or www.pollstar.com for the specifics. Have a great weekend, all Brian obWeekendMusic> "Radios Appear" Radio Birdman ----- Brian Halligan mailto:blackblade at bhalligan.com http://www.bhalligan.com/ From blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM Fri Apr 28 19:53:04 2000 From: blackblade at BHALLIGAN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 19:53:04 -0400 Subject: OFF: New Bevis Frond record Message-ID: Thanks Karen for forwarding these newsletters to the list! >Nick S., Andy Ward and myself have been in the studio recording the new >Frond album and all indications are that it's going to be a corker. I >still can't believe quite how prolific Nick is in the songwriting >department. We had 23 brand new songs to choose from and would have had >more if I hadn't put a cover over his cage. Drool...drool...oh, excuse me. Wow, The Bevis Frond is a "band" again. (Were they ever more than Nick with sometimes guests?) I was hoping with all the touring they've been doing and the live album that Nick would agree to record with Ade and Andy. Can't wait to hear it. Brian obBFLivePerformance> http://www.rnsd.com/music.html ----- Brian Halligan mailto:blackblade at bhalligan.com http://www.bhalligan.com/ From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sat Apr 29 05:14:21 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 11:14:21 +0200 Subject: HW:I've been sick Message-ID: Hello all, Been very sick(had hepatitis A,luckely not hepatitis B or C) So if I promised anything to anyone,post me again if you haven't heard of me lately.Also sorry if I posted sometimes twice. But had some 450 e-mails to kleen out.Still some 80 left. So sorry if I did some mistakes greetings filip hawknut -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Apr 29 13:56:20 2000 From: johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM (Johnny Firich) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 17:56:20 GMT Subject: OFF: Last Days of May - BACK to metallica Message-ID: >the songs of *Load* (HATE the cover though - can't buy an album who's >artwork was made by some guy jerking off and mixing it with pigs >blood). serious about this? I have the picture on a t-shirt... I bet everyone I knew knows this except me, and they've all been laughing behind by back for the last 3 or 4 years.... ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sat Apr 29 14:10:24 2000 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 19:10:24 +0100 Subject: Top of the Pops date confirmed Message-ID: I can now confirm that the BBC film made for the TV Top of the Pops show was from Dunstable Queensway Hall on 7th July 1972. The source is a report in Sounds reproduced in a Trev Hughes "Friends" magazine from 1978 which I've just obtained. This was also Jill and my own prime suspect date for the recording of "Brainstorm" and "Silver Machine" for the Brian Matthews "Top of the Pops" radio show BBC Transcription disk as it fits in with the other songs and interviews with Wings, Pretty Things, Beegees and Mary Wells. So I guess that the live "Silver Machine" on that transcription disc is indeed the one replaced by the TV show laying the UA single and showing a melage of video clips from the gig. FoFP P.S: After looking for it for 23 years, I today finally laid my hands on a copy of the Italian Hassan I Sabha/ Damnation Allay Part II 7" with pic sleeve. It's one of those red letter days in the life of your average Kollector. I'm still looking for the French Hassan I Sabha/Fable of a Failed Race 7" and the Spanish Psi Power 7" pic sleeve. If anyone has either for sale or trade, please get in touch. FoFP From RMayo19761 at AOL.COM Sat Apr 29 20:07:40 2000 From: RMayo19761 at AOL.COM (Robert C. Mayo) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 20:07:40 EDT Subject: OFF: Last Days of May - BACK to metallica Message-ID: In a message dated 4/29/00 1:57:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, johnnybravo5858 at HOTMAIL.COM writes: << the songs of *Load* (HATE the cover though - can't buy an album who's >artwork was made by some guy jerking off and mixing it with pigs >blood). serious about this? I have the picture on a t-shirt... I bet everyone I knew knows this except me, and they've all been laughing behind by back for the last 3 or 4 years.... __ >> sorry, but that's exactly what that picture is...doesn't change what's 'in the grooves', though... which is crap. rmayo From ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO Sun Apr 30 07:12:40 2000 From: ketil.svendsen at FISKAREN.NHST.NO (Ketil Svendsen) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 13:12:40 +0200 Subject: HW/OFF: Gong played in smalltown Bergen, Norway Message-ID: ok, they sold tim blake cds at the tea(grin)-shirt stand. that'll do for HW in the topic ;) - man what a concert! i've never seen gong live before, so this was a new experience to me..... they were tight as h**l, apart from some minor glitches in a few of the breaks, yet free-form as an experimental jazz ensemble (reminding me on the italian gianuigi travesi octet - check it out!) - a truly great concert in a small, damp and hot-hot! concert venue ( http://www.garage.no ). they played songs only from the radio gnome "trilogy", and some from the last (fifth in the trilogy?) zero to infinity album. the new songs worked well live (i liked them better live) and stood up well against/amongst/inbetween the older, more familiar (to me) material...... all in all: great! even my gf loved it (she recognized and liked the songs i had "forced" her into hearing :) - what a perfect day! at 3 pm the same day i attended sir George Martin's 2 hour lecture on his life and the making of Sgt. Pepper - truly interesting and what a great lecturer he was..! ok, that's it for now...... anybody got the latest news on the hw reunion? i've been off for a while..... best regards, ketil svendsen, bergen, norway From filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE Sun Apr 30 12:44:40 2000 From: filip.vanhuyse at YUCOM.BE (Filip Vanhuyse) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 18:44:40 +0200 Subject: HW:Hawkfrendz and Bellyflops! Message-ID: Hello, As I try to get my chaos in order,I stumbled across some old Hawkfrendz. I took Hawkeye 8,to look what I had and what not.Here's the one I don't have: -HAWKWIND WINTER 1988/THE TOUR I SURVIVED (february 1989) -THE BOOK OF XENON:BOB WALKER'S EARLY WORK (april 1989) -HAWKWIND SUMMER 1989/THE YEAR OF THE HAWK (june 1989) -STONEHENGE SOLSTICE '89/SURBURBAN GUERILLA FILES (November 1989) So,is there anyone who has those double,or willing to make photocopies? I've tried Trevor himself but he doesn't do foreign mail anymore!?! Does anyone know if Trevor has got some himself anymore? Is Trevor still alive?!? (just kidding) Love the guy,but he's a mess to work with,or even try to buy something from him. Is there anyone in the UK who is willing to make contact with Trevor? All expences paid. Have also a double HAWKWIND 1990:ASSAULT AND BATTERY So if anyone want this,let me know. Now for something different,had a letter in from Brain Tawn and on the backside there's a photocopy of a promo picture of the Bellyflops! It marks:SUDDENLY...IT'S THE BELLYFLOPS! Front row:Michael Moorcock ; Charles Platt ; Pete Taylor ; Langdon Jones The Fabulous Bellyflops,1964 If anyone want a photocopy of it,let me know greetings filip hawknut -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Apr 30 13:04:07 2000 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 18:04:07 +0100 Subject: HW:Hawkfrendz and Bellyflops! In-Reply-To: <000a01bfb2c3$7c39e8c0$73a208d4@d8o7x0> Message-ID: In message <000a01bfb2c3$7c39e8c0$73a208d4 at d8o7x0>, Filip Vanhuyse writes > Is Trevor still alive?!? (just kidding) Saw him half an hour ago at the TUC Comic mart. Bought a load of "Wham!'"s from 1967 off him. Simon House was there, too. cheers -- Jon From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Apr 30 15:25:02 2000 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill Strobridge) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:25:02 +0100 Subject: HW:Hawkfrendz and Bellyflops! Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- > From: Filip Vanhuyse > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2000 5:44 PM > Subject: HW:Hawkfrendz and Bellyflops! > > Hello, > > -HAWKWIND WINTER 1988/THE TOUR I SURVIVED (february 1989) > -HAWKWIND SUMMER 1989/THE YEAR OF THE HAWK (june 1989) > So,is there anyone who has those double,or willing to make photocopies? I have these two and can do a photocopy for you. cheers jill From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Sun Apr 30 16:26:57 2000 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 16:26:57 -0400 Subject: BRAIN/BOC: interview w/ Deborah Frost Message-ID: Interview With Brain Surgeons' Deborah Frost from music street journal. Some good news and bad news alike innit, but such is life. Jason Music Street Journal:Correct me if I'm wrong, but your role in the business seems to be pretty large: Vocalist, publicist, manager, label mogul. You seem to wear a lot of hats. Do youthink that this is a unique place to be -- in general or as a woman in a generally male dominated business? Deborah Frost:Well, you asked to be corrected. I'm not a publicist. We have a very small company and share whatever has to be done. I may oversee what goes out publicity-wise, simply because as a journalist who dealt with the best-- and the worst-- publicists in the biz for 25 years, I have some experience with how I'd like things to be. And Albert may supervise, more closely, those details with which he's had more expertise--- from mic placement in the studio to mixing specifics that I have a lot less patience with. But everything is a team effort, including writing and playing. I certainly wouldn't characterize myself primarily as a vocalist, as you do. I'm as much a songwriter, and I've been forced to become a much better musician. I could afford to get lazy about my guitar playing because I had these great guys to do it for me. That isn't the case any more. In fact, both Pete and Billy were around only sporadically for "Piece of Work", so I just had to do it. Live, I am the guitar player now. It's a challenge. I never felt that I could sing the way I sing and play at the same time. And I don't know if I've ever seen too many people do it-- Robert Plant doesn't try to play the guitar. And of course we don't notice Jimmy Page singing... This definitely is a challenge. And I'm also playing bass on some songs, which I never realized I would enjoy so much. The band is a trio now, and we're experimenting with a lot of different approaches. It will be different and I am sure there will be rocky moments, as there were when we put the band together after Albert and I recorded our debut, Eponymous. What is really unfortunate is that the Brain Surgeons had really developed as a killer live show just before Billy got sick and the momentum we had been building ground to a halt. During the long lay-off, Pete decided he was quitting music completely, sold all of his equipment, without even telling us. He also got married and had a child-- which, I suppose, in his mind, doesn't seem compatible with playing. It is really a shame, because he's an incredible musician, but it's his life, he has a lot of issues to work out, and he was never really that comfortable performing live, anyway. If he changes his mind or if Billy miraculously feels better, we would be thrilled to have them. But after two years, we have to get back out there, and Albert, David and myself, are really enjoying playing together in a way we didn't before. And to get back to your original question about wearing a lot of hats-- most women I know wear even more. They juggle more children, more complicated households, inflexible careers or demanding bosses. What I do is not so atypical. But as to the music industry, it has more women now than certainly when I began...but reality is that it is still, like just about every other business, controlled by white men. During the years I have been involved, I have seen women who were once literally relegated--for years, despite doing ALL of the work for which their bosses got credit---to the receptionist and secretary desks (where they would also frequently be lunged at by the visiting "talent."). Now that they are VPS, they (and the many capable women who work for or with them) are no longer subject to the outright groping and in some ways, the workplace is a more civilized environment. However, the ultimate decisions (and the real bonuses) are made by the male CEOs, who control the huge corporations that have bought all their companies up. Music Street Journal:What kind of advice can you give to people trying to break into this business? Deborah Frost:I think that the bottom line has to be that you have to have something to say and you must be driven by the sheer desire to express it, not some kind of glittery reward, You should not expect other people to pick up the tab and if you do, you should recognize that they will not necessarily have your best interests at stake, only their financial one. If you really have something to offer, build your own following. Educate yourself--both in the traditional sense and in terms of music history and business, which is more about total exploitation rather than shiny fortunes. If you're a writer, join ASCAP, an organization I heartily recommend. They have a lot of useful programs. If you're a woman, there are other organizations, like Women in Music, and magazines like ROCKRGRL, which offer motherlodes of support and information. Forget about"overnight success." There is no such thing. Music Street Journal:You seem to have a very versatile vocal presence -- among other things I have heard influences as far reaching as Patti Smith and Janis Joplin. Who would you consider to be your influences? Deborah Frost:As a singer, I am not influenced at all by Patti Smith. The only thing that we may have in common is that we probably heard a lot of the same soul music and Rolling Stones. Janis Joplin probably had a much greater effect upon me at a very impressionable age but it was also the first time that I heard a white woman sing the blues and express that degree of pain, which I also identified very strongly with. People sort of assume that because one is a woman that your greatest models are women. I disagree but not because, like Patti Smith and others of that ilk, I don't consider myself a feminist. I'm proud to identify myself as a feminist-- but the rock vocalists who influenced me most are people who are much more versatile than either Patti Smith or Janis Joplin, people who could write and sing a lot of different kinds of songs-- like Lennon and McCartney. Mick Jagger, in his prime, used several different voices, so does Robert Plant. I love Joni Mitchell's songs and singing, although no one ever compares me to her. Instead, I get Chrissie Hynde-- I think it's more the hair do than the music, although again, obviously Chrissie Hynde and I grew up loving a lot of the same music. A lot of R&B artists had a tremendous influence on me-- in terms of singing and writing--most of the Motown artists, Otis Redding, Aretha Franklin. As a singer, Aretha Franklin is probably my favorite of all time. Albert likes to tease me that my major influence was Fanny, who he considers total musical lightweights. They were simply the first group of women I saw doing what I'd wanted to do since I first saw the Beatles when I was 9 or 10 and none of my little girl friends had the slightest interest in having a band. But I also shared a youthful affinity for the Blues Project, which had a huge influence on Albert and Buck Dharma--in college, they were a Blues Project cover band. The kid who sat next to me in sixth grade and taught me how to play "Wipe Out" on the desk took piano lessons from Danny Kalb's mother. The Blues Project were our heroes for awhile, and a Rascal went out with another classmate's big sister. So those are just other ingredients that go into the main stew and simmer, and after a long while it comes out with a unique and hopefully tasty flavor of its own. Music Street Journal:Are there any musicians with whom you would like to work? Deborah Frost:I'm working with one of the greatest musicians-- Albert is not only a phenomenal drummer, who's always improving, he knows more about arranging, certainly, writing, and most aspects of playing and recording than almost anyone I've ever met, and that includes some of the so-called biggest stars in the business. The depth of his knowledge constantly amazes me. And anyone who works with him would agree. If things present themselves in a natural way, there are certainly people with whom I'd like to work. But if the situation is forced-- just like when you're set up for a date, even when your best friend is doing the introducing-- it never works. Things have to develop naturally. Music Street Journal:When you play live, do you do any of the old BOC songs? Deborah Frost:If you are referring to songs that Albert wrote earlier in his career, of course we play them. A better question might be why the band that tours as BOC irregardless of who's playing on any given night so heavily relies on the material and contributions of someone who's been gone for almost 2 decades. But why shouldn't Albert play songs that meant enough to him to write them? His fans love to hear him perform them because it's something they've really missed. In some cases, "Death Valley Nights," for instance, these are really special songs for very dedicated and knowledgeable fans who appreciate hearing something that was never or rarely performed live ever. In some cases, Albert feels that the songs were never done justice on record-- which may be due to a poor choice of producer or a rushed recording schedule or compromises that were made to appease colleagues at the time. It's a chance to get it right now or to re-interpret them. Bob Dylan never does anything the same way twice. It's not that extreme. But there's a unique opportunity to fix something that really might have been broke. Then there are songs, like "Cities on Flame" or "Dominance and Submission," that are just too much fun not to play. And people just really love hearing Albert play and sing them. And he does them better than ever. He's the rare rock musician who's really increased his chops and expanded his vocabulary, rather than so many performers who rely on the oldies are essentially going through the motions, and whose core audience has dwindled down to the faithful few who are basically there out of some nostalgia for their youth rather than to be challenged by anything new or demanding. These songs are just the icing, rather than the meat of the show. Times have changed, and the Brain Surgeons don't have the kind of corporate marketing muscle behind them that Albert's previous band was the beneficiary of, but those who have followed his career or find his new music the good old fashioned way, through word of mouth, appreciate that he's writing great stuff that continues to push the envelope. It makes for an unusually interesting audience. Music Street Journal:How is the new album being received? Deborah Frost:It is being received well. It's a great album--actually two albums, so it's a lot of material. It takes a long time to digest. But anyone of any intelligence and taste who listens to it agrees it is great. Music Street Journal:What is next on the agenda -- tour, etc? Deborah Frost:We've been rehearsing as a trio. Of course, if Billy is feeling better, we hope he will join us. Perhaps we will have other guests, like original Cult member Joe Bouchard, who's joined the Brain Surgeons live and on record in the past. We're in the process of putting together some dates now. Albert will be doing a one-off thing with Joe and Leslie West at the end of July. We're planning to go to Seattle and maybe do some other West Coast dates in the fall. Music Street Journal:Any spin-off projects in the works? Deborah Frost:We are working on an album and a concert to honor the memory and music of Helen Wheels, who collaborated on many songs with both Albert and Joe Bouchard for Blue Oyster Cult and the Brain Surgeons. She passed away tragically and unexpectedly on January 17. Donald "Buck Dharma" Roeser and his wife Sandy, who were close to Helen "back in the day"plan to participate in these projects, and hopefully Eric Bloom and Alan Lanier will, too. The Dictators, who were Helen's first back-up band, are on also on board already. Albert has discussed some other things with Donald Roeser, who's already contributed some guitar work to the next album of David Roter, who co-wrote songs like "Joan Crawford" and "Unknown Tongue" with Albert. Donald Roeser is an awesomely talented musician whose creativity and potential should not be untapped for so long. Music Street Journal:Where did the name for the band come from? Deborah Frost:It's a little bit of a play on Patti Smith's brilliant lyrics for "Baby Ice Dog." And we thought my mother might be happier with a son-in-law who's a brain surgeon -- even if he does wear earrings. Music Street Journal:What is the last CD you bought/what are you listening to these days? Deborah Frost:Everything Music Street Journal:What was the last concert that you attended? Deborah Frost:Blue Oyster Cult at the Bottom Line mail to MusicStJournal at aol.com ?2000, Music Street Journal From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Apr 28 10:51:37 2000 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 15:51:37 +0100 Subject: HW: PXR 5 CD (read first) Message-ID: Eh...what PXR5 CD? Your right about the Weird stuff-excellent! Dave -----Original Message----- From: Tim Gadd To: BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Date: 27 April 2000 09:52 Subject: HW: PXR 5 CD (read first) >Sorry - forgot to put the HW prefix on the original of this post. If you get >both, would you mind responding to this one, as I won't see replies to the >other. > >Latest in recent batch of things-to-turn-up in my process of re-acquiring CD >versions of my old vinyl, is PXR 5 (cheers, Paul, if you're on this list). > >Whereas I'm very happy to have this, and the overall quality of the sound is >excellant, I'm left with the same question as per Lucky Lief (though more >so, in this case) - why did they have to frig around with a perfectly good >album? Where did this remix/re-arrangement of 'High Rise' come from? IMHO >it's markedly inferior to the original, particularly in the vocal dept. On >the vinyl version Calvert sounds nicely manic, with that >frothing-at-the-mouth sort of edge to his delivery. On this one, other than >having acquired an annoying echo, the vocals are (for Bob) relatively >anaemic and lacklustre. It sounds more like a demo. And why the hell did >whoever re-mixed this album decide to jack up the instrument levels in the >last minute of the title track? I'm sure it must have seemed like a good >idea at the time. Must have been his faourite part of the song. > >Griffin - if you are listening, and intend to re-release this album, please >restore it to its original form! > >Are there similar differences between the vinyl and Virgin CD of the >Hawklords album? > >Finally, I'm now convinced that the definitive version of 'Uncle Sam' is on >the Stonehenge 1977 CD-R (originally Weird 102/3 from memory). Calvert at >his most ferocious, Simon House hammering his keyboard like it's a rhythm >guitar, and the song hurtles along; all sharp edges and electricity. Nothing >wrong at all with the PXR 5 version, and it does have the nice spoken >section about Drum Majorettes, but it does seem a bit sedate compared with >that other live take. > >Anyway, just my 2c. I guess there are people who grew up with the CD version >of High Rise, and prefer it, but it was a bit of a shock for me. >-- >Tim Gadd >Hobart, Tasmania >