From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Sep 1 03:21:12 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 08:21:12 +0100 Subject: OFF: Masters of Reality, London Message-ID: Masters of Reality are at the Borderline, 11th September. They rocked last time! I just ordered my ticket from http://www.ticketweb.co.uk/ --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Wed Sep 1 03:36:47 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 08:36:47 +0100 Subject: OFF: Masters of Reality, London In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 01 Sep 1999 08:21:12 BST." Message-ID: > Masters of Reality are at the Borderline, 11th September. They rocked last > time! oh yes. I'm there... Tim From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Sep 1 07:11:17 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:11:17 +0100 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet question In-Reply-To: <19990831113146.90186.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: In article <19990831113146.90186.qmail at hotmail.com>, Suicide Victory writes >ObBummer: BROKE my copy of Hawkwind's TAT in two! Anyone have a spare copy >for trade????? (right...) how'd you do *that*, Chris? -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Sep 1 07:12:23 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:12:23 +0100 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet question In-Reply-To: <37CC1A46.2B56A799@theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: In article <37CC1A46.2B56A799 at theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk>, Jill writes >Copies appear occasionally - usually fairly cheaply without the booklet >so I'll look around for one. booklet? -- Jon From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Wed Sep 1 10:00:39 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Bart Brugmans (aka Gekke Henkie)) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:00:39 +0200 Subject: off: seti@home update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Op 31 Aug 99, om 21:02, Sonique schreef: > On Mon, Aug 30, 1999 at 03:41:31PM +0200, Bart wrote: > > > Join us at: http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi > > bin/cgi?cmd=team_lookup&name =in+search+of... > > Then, On 30 Aug 99, at 19:09, Daniel Ligon wrote: > > > There is also a Blue Oyster Cult group: > > > > http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/cgi?cmd=team_lookup&name=blue+o > > ys ter+cult > > > > which has 73 members, including Eric and Buck. > > Sounds like a challenge!! Well? --BArt From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Sep 1 10:45:26 1999 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Rich Lockwood) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:45:26 +0100 Subject: Tower Records Message-ID: Went into Tower Records at 9:30am on Bank Holiday Monday to be met by the sound of MotorwayCity at huge volume, terrifying Japanese tourists. I knew then that it was going to be a good day. :-) Cheers, Rich. From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Sep 1 11:41:16 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:41:16 +0100 Subject: HW: BADAM Message-ID: Looks like it's back on, with Hawkwind and Bedouin, on Sept 18th. http://www.badam99.freeserve.co.uk/ --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Wed Sep 1 11:49:26 1999 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:49:26 +0100 Subject: HW: BADAM Message-ID: Argh - not Fat Cats (if it's who I think it is) - I bought their drummer's old house a few years back... Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Gilham To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 4:41 PM Subject: HW: BADAM > Looks like it's back on, with Hawkwind and Bedouin, on Sept 18th. > > http://www.badam99.freeserve.co.uk/ > > > --Andy > > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 1 11:53:35 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:53:35 +0100 Subject: Tower Records In-Reply-To: Rich Lockwood's message of Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:45:26 +0100 Message-ID: Rich Lockwood writes: > Went into Tower Records at 9:30am on Bank Holiday Monday to be met by the > sound of MotorwayCity at huge volume, terrifying Japanese tourists. Didn't they just sing along to the Japanese lyrics: Turn us round rejections, turn us round, indeed Rubbing on the edges, you exit from the heat Paper on the pavement, girls gooling in the dark The motion of the city, to raise your hat and go From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Sep 1 12:32:09 1999 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:32:09 -0400 Subject: Tower Records In-Reply-To: <01bd01bef488$a471bec0$1701a8c0@richardl.tpd.co.uk> from "Rich Lockwood" at Sep 1, 99 03:45:26 pm Message-ID: Rich Lockwood wrote: > Went into Tower Records at 9:30am on Bank Holiday Monday to be met by the > sound of MotorwayCity at huge volume, terrifying Japanese tourists. I knew > then that it was going to be a good day. And I went into the main HMV store in Toronto on Sunday to be met by two stacks of the EMI remastered Space Ritual on the "Imports" display rack -- the one right up front where you can't miss it as you get off the escalator. (And to boot, there were a couple of stacks of a Monster Magnet CD a couple of rows down.) Oh frabjous day! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / I'm going to change it, but it's going to take some time. - Linus Torvalds, on Windows's market leadership From vincentr at COGNOS.COM Wed Sep 1 12:56:45 1999 From: vincentr at COGNOS.COM (Rob Vincent) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:56:45 -0400 Subject: HW : Ambient Anarchists Message-ID: Folks, First time posting to the list ... I recently found this collection at my local record store and picked it up. Anything anyone can tell me about it? Rainmaker Elijah Snow : It's a strange world Jakita Wagner : Let's keep it that way Planetary #1 From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Wed Sep 1 14:22:55 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:22:55 -0500 Subject: Tower Records Message-ID: Rich Lockwood wrote: > Went into Tower Records at 9:30am on Bank Holiday Monday to be met by the > sound of MotorwayCity at huge volume, terrifying Japanese tourists. I knew > then that it was going to be a good day. > > :-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. I've always thought that was one of the least terrifying Hawkwind songs available. It sounds like background music for a toy commercial- imagine a "Motorway City" matchbox car playset or something like that.hooray! :) From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Wed Sep 1 14:44:13 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:44:13 -0500 Subject: HW : Ambient Anarchists Message-ID: Rob Vincent wrote: > Folks, > > First time posting to the list ... I recently found this collection at my > local record store and picked it up. Anything anyone can tell me about it? > I love the version of Motorhead on there. It's got great and varied selections, and an attractive cover that's very reminiscent of Quark Strangeness and Charm. And the booklet has a very well-written and informative biography of them and how they are definitely, absolutely, non-conformists! They're Anarchists! grrrrrrr! Fighting for freedom, with music! how unique! It's fun to play IF YOU WANNA GET INTO IT YOU GOTTA GET OUT OF IT on loop while your roomate is sleeping. Be very, very careful with the specialized crystal box. It shatters to pieces at the slightest mechanical shock. Because of it's resonant frequency I guess, it will also break if a truck passes your house. I've gone through 4 of them to date! From Mariej at BIGWIG.NET Wed Sep 1 14:55:27 1999 From: Mariej at BIGWIG.NET (Marie Jenkinson) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:55:27 +0100 Subject: BADAM Message-ID: Hi all, As earlier stated, BADAM is back on - it's been advertised by the local radio frequently over the past days. However, as far as I'm aware after chatting to one of the organisers, Hawkwind have still only agreed verbally, and written contracts have not yet materialised. Bedouin will not be playing on the 18th at Buxton. Here is a (sketchy) list of gigs so far to be confirmed September 17th - Axe and Cleaver, Boston September 18th - Birmingham Roadhouse September 19th Buxton (BADAM) There are more dates to follow from 30th September through to November. Cheers Marie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Sep 1 15:43:10 1999 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:43:10 +0100 Subject: Travellers Aid Trust Message-ID: Jon Browne wrote: > > In article <37CC1A46.2B56A799 at theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk>, Jill > writes > >Copies appear occasionally - usually fairly cheaply without the booklet > >so I'll look around for one. > > booklet? > > > yep! of course. 31 pages with black and white photos, articles on the Travelling Community and a note of your rights should you happen to be arrested by the police. Just in case...... cheers jill -- ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Sep 1 15:58:43 1999 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:58:43 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: Tower Records Message-ID: Eric Siegerman wrote: > > Rich Lockwood wrote: > > Went into Tower Records at 9:30am on Bank Holiday Monday to be met by the > > sound of MotorwayCity at huge volume, terrifying Japanese tourists. I knew > > then that it was going to be a good day. > > And I went into the main HMV store in Toronto on Sunday to be met > by two stacks of the EMI remastered Space Ritual on the "Imports" > display rack -- the one right up front where you can't miss it as > you get off the escalator. (And to boot, there were a couple of > stacks of a Monster Magnet CD a couple of rows down.) > > Oh frabjous day! Interestingly Virgin had their Epoch Eclipse CDs labelled with CHART stickers on them so either there is a chart entry or they are trying to make one happen. Either way this is a rare and remarkable development! jill ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Sep 1 13:39:42 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:39:42 EDT Subject: Tower Records Message-ID: In a message dated 9/1/99 1:26:15 PM, antisol at SOFTHOME.NET writes: <> okay then, what would be the "most" "terrifying" hawkwind song? if'n "sonic attack" and "the beast of chaos" were ruled out for not being "songs", what's left? "<>" From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Sep 1 12:42:37 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:42:37 +0100 Subject: OFF: Masters of Reality, London In-Reply-To: <199909010736.IAA11270@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: At 08:36 01.09.1999 +0100, you wrote: >> Masters of Reality are at the Borderline, 11th September. They rocked last >> time! > >oh yes. > >I'm there... > >Tim If I get one of these jobs.....cross your fingers for me guys!!!! ChrisW ObJoyBeyondBelief:I've got my car back! "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Sep 1 18:07:27 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 23:07:27 +0100 Subject: HW : Ambient Anarchists In-Reply-To: <37CD73FD.59071FB0@softhome.net> Message-ID: At 13:44 01.09.1999 -0500, you wrote: > Be very, very careful with the specialized >crystal box. It shatters to pieces at the slightest mechanical shock. >Because of it's resonant frequency I guess, it will also break if a >truck passes your house. I've gone through 4 of them to date! > I must have a more anarch-friendly environment - no jewel case probs at all (most unusual for me!) ChrisW "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From novadrive at HOME.COM Wed Sep 1 19:03:29 1999 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:03:29 -0700 Subject: Tower Records In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'd suppose "Paranoia"/"Seeing It As You Really Are," which are terrifying in the "Blair Witch Project" sort of way more than the Freddie/Jason/Michael Meyers "Boo!" sort of way...... Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu < http://members.home.net/novadrive/> > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of DASLUD at AOL.COM > Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 10:40 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: Tower Records > > > In a message dated 9/1/99 1:26:15 PM, antisol at SOFTHOME.NET writes: > > < available. It sounds like background music for a toy commercial- imagine a > "Motorway City" matchbox car playset or something like that.hooray! :) > > ===========================================>> > okay then, what would be the "most" "terrifying" hawkwind song? > if'n "sonic attack" and "the beast of chaos" were ruled out for not being > "songs", > what's left? > > "<>" > From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Sep 1 19:08:41 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:08:41 EDT Subject: Tower Records Message-ID: In a message dated 9/1/99 7:04:29 PM, novadrive at HOME.COM writes: <> sounds like a winner! tanx! "<>" From makmorn at QIS.NET Wed Sep 1 19:30:19 1999 From: makmorn at QIS.NET (Daniel Ligon) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:30:19 -0400 Subject: off: seti@home update In-Reply-To: ; from Sonique on Tue, Aug 31, 1999 at 09:02:00PM +1000 Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 31, 1999 at 09:02:00PM +1000, Sonique wrote: > On Mon, Aug 30, 1999 at 03:41:31PM +0200, Bart wrote: > > > Join us at: http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi > > bin/cgi?cmd=team_lookup&name =in+search+of... > > Then, On 30 Aug 99, at 19:09, Daniel Ligon wrote: > > > There is also a Blue Oyster Cult group: > > > > http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/cgi?cmd=team_lookup&name=blue+o > > ys ter+cult > > > > which has 73 members, including Eric and Buck. > > Sounds like a challenge!! Must be my accent. I wonder how many BOC/HW related seti groups there are. Since the Seti at Home project only lets you match on full group names, it would be easy to miss the group you wanted to join. It would take a while for me to find the group "In Search Of..." were I looking for a Hawkwind group to join. >From a recent discussion in alt.music.blueoystercult, it seems that several BOC related groups (including "E.T.I.Live") have joined the Blue Oyster Cult group, since Eric had founded it. That group currently has a total of 876 results, but 323 are from one guy. -- Daniel Ligon makmorn at qis.net We are in the hands of infinite power and infinite sadism. -- _Inferno_ From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Wed Sep 1 19:50:17 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:50:17 +0900 Subject: Tower Records Message-ID: Can you imagine the effect of Paranoia on a bunch of unsuspecting Japanese? (Hint - we covered it in Tokyo last week, with added samples the effect was rather good ) Dave DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 9/1/99 1:26:15 PM, antisol at SOFTHOME.NET writes: > > < available. It sounds like background music for a toy commercial- imagine a > "Motorway City" matchbox car playset or something like that.hooray! :) > > ===========================================>> > okay then, what would be the "most" "terrifying" hawkwind song? > if'n "sonic attack" and "the beast of chaos" were ruled out for not being > "songs", > what's left? > > "<>" From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Thu Sep 2 00:23:12 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 23:23:12 -0500 Subject: Tower Records Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 9/1/99 7:04:29 PM, novadrive at HOME.COM writes: > > < in the "Blair Witch Project" sort of way more than the Freddie/Jason/Michael > Meyers "Boo!" sort of way...... > > Kevin Sommers > >> > > sounds like a winner! > tanx! > "<>" I agree with that entirely. From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Sep 2 03:02:49 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 03:02:49 EDT Subject: HW/NIK: "Hawxtar" CD Message-ID: Hi. It's taken me a while to get around to this note. Two weeks ago in San Diego I found the "Hawxtar" CD at a shop called Off the Record (if you ever happen to be in the area, don't miss it). This was perhaps one of the rarest finds I've ever had--it seems to be the bootleg that Henrik made (or at least he wrote the liner notes) or one of the other Hawkswedes made in '97 from Nik's appearance w/Darxtar in '95. I was so chuffed I almost peed my pants. The label says #38/100. Did one of you people dump it off there? It would seem doubtful. Anyway, somehow it got there. Problem is, the CD itself is defective; the first few tracks come through okay, then it goes insane. I was wondering if maybe Henrik, Joe or someone could make me a CD-R of the recording, sort of as a prize for having found this gem. :) And of course it would be prime stuff for me to air on my show (especially since it's now accessible on the Web, right?? ahem! Has anyone tried it yet? Remember it's Sat 7-9 PST...) Chuck From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Sep 2 04:08:54 1999 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 01:08:54 PDT Subject: OFF Blair Witch (inc: Tower Records) Message-ID: Kevin Sommers wrote:> >I'd suppose "Paranoia"/"Seeing It As You Really Are," which are terrifying >in the "Blair Witch Project" sort of way more than >the Freddie/Jason/Michael Meyers "Boo!" sort of way...... My vote would have to be for Master of the Universe, for sheer lost-in-the-void power and atmosphere. I just saw the _Blair Witch Project_ last night (it's not out in the cinemas over here yet, but a friend downloaded an mpg version...). Awesome film. First 20 minutes I'm thinking "Why am I watching this sub-Seinfeld middle-American drivel?" then it was the end of the film and I realized I'd been on the edge of my seat for fully three-quarters of the movie. I was so tense, only managed to drink one beer. Awesome ending. We spent another half-an-hour just scaring each other with what-to-do-in-a-forest-to-scare-the-pants-offf-somebody stories. AND it was dark outside. Remember, deep in the woods, you are never alone....not in the way you'd think...... Chris. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 2 06:13:18 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:13:18 +0100 Subject: HW : Ambient Anarchists In-Reply-To: Rob Vincent's message of Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:56:45 -0400 Message-ID: Rob Vincent writes: > Folks, > > First time posting to the list ... I recently found this collection at my > local record store and picked it up. Anything anyone can tell me about it? It's a compilation of fairly usual stuff with one track that's unusual in some way, though I don't remember which. FoFP From dhira.lalita at VIRGIN.NET Thu Sep 2 08:28:49 1999 From: dhira.lalita at VIRGIN.NET (Dhira Lalita) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:28:49 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind in Brixton Message-ID: Hi, anyone know anything more about the Brixton dates? It would be criminal to miss it, Thanks From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Thu Sep 2 08:33:05 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:33:05 +0100 Subject: HW: Tower records / chart stickers etc Message-ID: Well now, I was in the pub the other day with a friend of mine who is a freelance music journo. He handed over a copy of Select (a magazine I have never read) to point out the good reviews of the reissues, and the 4* review of the Epoch set. He's only a lad, bless 'im, and is generally unfamiliar with the HW world, but he had been at a a publishers meeting where not only was HW discussed, but the Epoch set was playing, the following day he was at an illegal rave in Streatham where he suddenly realised that the "half hour of weird shit he'd been freaking out to for several months" was in fact HW. He'd never realised until he'd heard Epoch. So when I go back down to London next week I'm under instructions to have several C90s worth of HW for him and his teenybopper friends to assimilate. The point of which was to say that if kiddies magazines, publishing companies and teenage raves are getting into HW, 'twould explain the sudden prominence of 'product' on display. NP: Blind Boys Of Alabama - Didn't It Rain Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "...when the thunder roars you're not alone" - Lord David of Coverdale "...how could anyone fall for a drunk like me?" - Tyla From eggfoolejung at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Sep 2 08:59:52 1999 From: eggfoolejung at HOTMAIL.COM (Suicide Victory) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 05:59:52 PDT Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet question Message-ID: In article <19990831113146.90186.qmail at hotmail.com>, Suicide Victory writes >ObBummer: BROKE my copy of Hawkwind's TAT in two! Anyone have a spare copy >for trade????? (right...) Jon Browne writes: >how'd you do *that*, Chris? CD laying on top of jewel case by PC, when moving equipment falls down with speaker on top. CRASH. Broken Traveller's Aid Trust CD. In article <37CC1A46.2B56A799 at theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk>, Jill writes >Copies appear occasionally - usually fairly cheaply without the booklet >so I'll look around for one. Great! Let me know then. Nobody answered my original question of where the quote "I'm not stealing your vision, you're just blind" is from though... Chr. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Thu Sep 2 10:47:33 1999 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (James A Hogard) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:47:33 -0500 Subject: off: seti@home update Message-ID: >>>> Join us at: http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi >>>> bin/cgi?cmd=team_lookup&name =in+search+of... >>> There is also a Blue Oyster Cult group: >>> http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/cgi?cmd= >>> team_lookup&name=blue+oyster+cult >>> which has 73 members, including Eric and Buck. >> Sounds like a challenge!! > Well? They're up to 84 members, to our 8. 903 results, to our 149. It's going to take a while to catch them. Hogard From tclark at PETRONET.NET Thu Sep 2 11:30:36 1999 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:30:36 -0500 Subject: Tower Records Message-ID: I'd have to say Steppenwolf rates as what you might consider to bne terrifying....first time I listened to that one was under the influence of some pretty good hash..though I was not actually terrified, it struck me as quite a powerful song... DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 9/1/99 1:26:15 PM, antisol at SOFTHOME.NET writes: > > < available. It sounds like background music for a toy commercial- imagine a > "Motorway City" matchbox car playset or something like that.hooray! :) > > ===========================================>> > okay then, what would be the "most" "terrifying" hawkwind song? > if'n "sonic attack" and "the beast of chaos" were ruled out for not being > "songs", > what's left? > > "<>" From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu Sep 2 12:20:42 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:20:42 +0100 Subject: HW : Ambient Anarchists Message-ID: Mike Holmes replies: > >> Folks, >> >> First time posting to the list ... I recently found this collection at my >> local record store and picked it up. Anything anyone can tell me about it? > >It's a compilation of fairly usual stuff with one track that's unusual >in some way, though I don't remember which. > >FoFP As I recall the only unusual track was Love In Space. Until Epoch Eclipse this was, I think, the only collection to have the basic studio version, as opposed to the single mix or the 'dub' version on Distant Horizons. Nick From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Thu Sep 2 12:51:38 1999 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:51:38 -0700 Subject: HW: Random stuff Message-ID: I found a few Hawkwind comps in a local shop and was wondering if any were worth picking up. Among them: Sonic Boom Killers (1st time I've seen this one) Ambient Anarchists (OK, this one was recently discussed) F&R 6: Cosmic Travellers (US$6!) I've got most everything already, I'm looking for alternate versions, I guess, or special packaging, or detailed liner notes...really just a good excuse to buy the damn things! :-) Someone recently asked for a more up-to-date version of the Codex - is there one? That's such a great resource for determining which compilations contain stuff that I don't have already, I'd hate to see it fall out of date. CDNow (among others) is taking advance orders for the "Hawkwind Family Box Set", a 4 CD set on Cleopatra to be released on 9/21. The Cleopatra web page hasn't been updated in months, so that's no help in determining what's on this. I don't hold out much hope for it being worthwhile - Cleo just issued a 2nd Amon Duul II compilation - and it's just a repackaged and retitled version of their first Amon Duul II compilation! Ridiculous! A friend here at work just lent me the CD where Pop Will Eat Itself covers "Orgone Accumulator." The cover is only 2 minutes long, if that, and it has a real cheezy keyboard sound in it. Was this a tribute or a parody? I let my friend borrow _Space Ritual_, to hear the definitive version. He listened to the whole thing, but said that he felt that HW took themselves too seriously. Whatever... Looks like http://www.hawkwind.com just got a facelift! MWood NP: ProjeKct Two: _Space Groove_ --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Thu Sep 2 13:38:06 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:38:06 -0400 Subject: HW: Random stuff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >A friend here at work just lent me the CD where Pop Will Eat Itself covers "Orgone Accumulator." The cover is only 2 minutes long, if that, and it has a real cheezy keyboard sound in it. Was this a tribute or a parody? I let my friend borrow _Space Ritual_, to hear the definitive version. He listened to the whole thing, but said that he felt that HW took themselves too seriously. Whatever... After such a response, i always say :Forgive them Lord. they know not what they do. > >Looks like http://www.hawkwind.com just got a facelift! Yeah, tho I liked the older "space" background and text better. More fitting to the Hawkwind way. This one reminds me of a department store somehow. I'm going to buy Buisness Trip Live on CD (its not in a jewel case either) for 1 dollar (!) at the local Coconuts. Yay! Quick question -- who does the accompanying vox in "Sonic Attack" , saying "do not panic." and "yourself?" Time we bought that disc today Jason From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Sep 2 13:36:22 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:36:22 +0100 Subject: Travellers Aid Trust In-Reply-To: <37CD81CE.63A5747@theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: In article <37CD81CE.63A5747 at theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk>, Jill writes >> >Copies appear occasionally - usually fairly cheaply without the booklet >> >so I'll look around for one. >> >> booklet? >> >> >> > >yep! of course. 31 pages with black and white photos, articles on the >Travelling Community and a note of your rights should you happen to be >arrested by the police. Just in case...... that'll explain why I got mine fairly cheaply then.... -- Jon ObCD in the shop ALL day...EpochEclipse 3CD yummy package. Nice. From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Sep 2 13:39:54 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:39:54 +0100 Subject: Tower Records In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , DASLUD at AOL.COM writes >okay then, what would be the "most" "terrifying" hawkwind song? anything with Mike Moorcock's vocals. -- Jon From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Sep 2 13:50:18 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:50:18 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind in Brixton In-Reply-To: <000e01bef53e$d572ca80$5843fea9@dhiralalita> Message-ID: "On hold." The full press release is on www.hawkwind.com. --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Dhira Lalita > Sent: 02 September 1999 13:29 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Hawkwind in Brixton > > > Hi, anyone know anything more about the Brixton dates? It would > be criminal > to miss it, > > Thanks > From stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM Thu Sep 2 14:15:18 1999 From: stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:15:18 -0400 Subject: HW: Random stuff Message-ID: Jason sez: > Quick question -- who does the accompanying vox in "Sonic Attack" , saying > "do not panic." and "yourself?" Well when at a gig, we do......... ;-) On Chicago '73 its hilariously obvious that its Lemmy, but on 'Space Ritual' its probably Nik ?? Steve L From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Sep 2 14:44:14 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 19:44:14 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: Tower Records In-Reply-To: <37CD8573.E573FBCA@theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Jill wrote: > Eric Siegerman wrote: > > > > Rich Lockwood wrote: > > > Went into Tower Records at 9:30am on Bank Holiday Monday to be met by the > > > sound of MotorwayCity at huge volume, terrifying Japanese tourists. I knew > > > then that it was going to be a good day. > > > > And I went into the main HMV store in Toronto on Sunday to be met > > by two stacks of the EMI remastered Space Ritual on the "Imports" > > display rack -- the one right up front where you can't miss it as > > you get off the escalator. (And to boot, there were a couple of > > stacks of a Monster Magnet CD a couple of rows down.) > > Interestingly Virgin had their Epoch Eclipse CDs labelled with CHART > stickers on them so either there is a chart entry or they are trying to > make one happen. Either way this is a rare and remarkable development! They did that with _Distant Horizons_ too, so I fear it is just their way to flag new CDs which have an excitingly low price before jacking them up to industry standard three weeks later... Yours, Jon From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Sep 2 14:46:48 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 19:46:48 +0100 Subject: Tower Records In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 1 Sep 1999 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 9/1/99 1:26:15 PM, antisol at SOFTHOME.NET writes: > > < available. It sounds like background music for a toy commercial- imagine a > "Motorway City" matchbox car playset or something like that.hooray! :) > > ===========================================>> > okay then, what would be the "most" "terrifying" hawkwind song? > if'n "sonic attack" and "the beast of chaos" were ruled out for not being > "songs", > what's left? In the words of Mr. C. Anderson at Brixton in 1996, Blackheath in 1997 and Shepherd's Bush that same year, `Upside Down! Upside Down!'... Yours, Jon From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Sep 2 15:08:57 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 20:08:57 +0100 Subject: HW : Ambient Anarchists In-Reply-To: <002401bef55f$1c2900a0$0eeba8c2@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Nick Lee wrote: > >It's a compilation of fairly usual stuff with one track that's unusual > >in some way, though I don't remember which. > > > >FoFP > > As I recall the only unusual track was Love In Space. Until Epoch Eclipse > this was, I think, the only collection to have the basic studio version, as > opposed to the single mix or the 'dub' version on Distant Horizons. Heavens. I didn't realise there was such a thing. I shall now have to purchase _Epoch-Eclipse_. Oh well. Yours, Jon From Mariej at BIGWIG.NET Thu Sep 2 15:51:32 1999 From: Mariej at BIGWIG.NET (Marie Jenkinson) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 20:51:32 +0100 Subject: BADAM Message-ID: Hello all, I've been speaking to the organisers of BADAM - again. Here is a more up to date posting on the BADAM festival of 17th September - 19th September. Firstly - anyone who already has tickets for BADAM should receive a letter soon from the organisers explaining the ticket replacement situation. Because the main headlining event on 18th of September has a limited seating capacity, you must contact the organisers to let them know if you are attending or not. Every one who has ticket will get a replacement as long as you contact them quickly (before the 16th of September at the latest). Your new ticket will be reserved for you when you confirm your attendance. Otherwise there's no guarantee of a seat being available on the 18th. The line up for the 17th and the 19th of September has yet to be confirmed. The main event line up is as follows. 1pm Doors Open (Royal Opera House Buxton) 2pm Bedouin, followed by Spacehead, Fula, Arthur Brown and the final headliners - Hawkwind. Bedouin have rearranged their set to the 18th September - they should still be playing the Birmingham Roadhouse that evening - obviously check with the venue. BADAM web site - www.badam99.freeserve.co.uk Cheers Marie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Sep 2 16:59:14 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:59:14 EDT Subject: HW: Random stuff Message-ID: In a message dated 9/2/99 2:16:35 PM, stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM writes: << On Chicago '73 its hilariously obvious that its Lemmy, but on 'Space Ritual' its probably Nik ?? >> ========= lemmy all the way, yes? "<>" From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 2 16:08:22 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 21:08:22 +0100 Subject: HW: Tower records / chart stickers etc In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19990902133305.0068d670@pop3.connectfree.co.uk> Message-ID: At 13:33 02/09/99 , Zeitgeist wrote: >Well now, I was in the pub the other day with a friend of mine who is a >freelance music journo. He handed over a copy of Select (a magazine I have >never read) to point out the good reviews of the reissues, and the 4* >review of the Epoch set. Woah, this is excellent news! I assume you mean the recent re-issues, not the EMI ones? >the following day he was at an illegal rave >in Streatham where he suddenly realised that the "half hour of weird shit >he'd been freaking out to for several months" was in fact HW. Do you know which track(s)? I'd be fascinated to know. >So when I go back down to London next week I'm under instructions to have >several C90s worth of HW for him and his teenybopper friends to assimilate. How in space are you going to choose what to put on there? I once did a set of tapes for a friend where I picked one track from each official album, which worked quite well. I think I included two tracks from some albums (e.g. Assault and Battery/The Golden Void). Another approach might be an ambient tape, a blanga tape, a metal tape, and a pyschedelic tape (or something along those lines). Or of course just pick the tracks that you like most. Dave. From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 2 15:57:40 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 20:57:40 +0100 Subject: HW : Ambient Anarchists In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 17:56 01/09/99 , Rob Vincent wrote: >First time posting to the list ... I recently found this collection at my >local record store and picked it up. Anything anyone can tell me about it? (Possibly stating the obvious). I think the idea is that one disc is ambient tracks, and the other is anarchist-ish tracks. So it's themed differently from most compilations, which tend to survey particular periods. (Having said that, I haven't bought it myself, so I don't know how well it works). Dave. From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Thu Sep 2 20:00:38 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 19:00:38 -0500 Subject: HW: Random stuff Message-ID: Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > >A friend here at work just lent me the CD where Pop Will Eat Itself covers > "Orgone Accumulator." The cover is only 2 minutes long, if that, and it > has a real cheezy keyboard sound in it. Was this a tribute or a parody? I > let my friend borrow _Space Ritual_, to hear the definitive version. He > listened to the whole thing, but said that he felt that HW took themselves > too seriously. Whatever... > > After such a response, i always say :Forgive them Lord. they know not what > they do. > > > >Looks like http://www.hawkwind.com just got a facelift! > > Yeah, tho I liked the older "space" background and text better. More > fitting to the Hawkwind way. This one reminds me of a department store > somehow. > > I'm going to buy Buisness Trip Live on CD (its not in a jewel case either) > for 1 dollar (!) at the local Coconuts. Yay! > > Quick question -- who does the accompanying vox in "Sonic Attack" , saying > "do not panic." and "yourself?" Lemmy, right? From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Thu Sep 2 20:08:56 1999 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 02:08:56 +0200 Subject: Epoch-Eclipse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: still haven't found this 3 cd set here in holland and neither the single cd. so now quite a few of you have it please let me/us know some comment about the booklet, music etc. andre From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Sep 3 07:01:47 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:01:47 +0100 Subject: HW: Guardian review Message-ID: Today's Guardian newspaper has a good review of epoch-eclipse - you can find it on-line in the Friday review section from www.guardian.co.uk. Sample comment on Lemmy's departure: "fired over drugs; like sacking Beckham for playing football." --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Sep 3 07:26:49 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 07:26:49 EDT Subject: HW: Guardian review In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: Andy Gilham > Today's Guardian newspaper has a good review of epoch-eclipse - you can find > it on-line in the Friday review section from www.guardian.co.uk. > > Sample comment on Lemmy's departure: "fired over drugs; like sacking Beckham > for playing football." > This is a GREAT review! Only complaint is that it's too short... theo From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Fri Sep 3 08:54:04 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:54:04 +0100 Subject: HW: Tower records / chart stickers etc Message-ID: > Dave Berry wrote >At 13:33 02/09/99 , Zeitgeist wrote: >>Well now, I was in the pub the other day with a friend of mine who is a >>freelance music journo. He handed over a copy of Select (a magazine I have >>never read) to point out the good reviews of the reissues, and the 4* >>review of the Epoch set. > >Woah, this is excellent news! I assume you mean the recent re-issues, not >the EMI ones? Yup, the recent digipak ones. >>the following day he was at an illegal rave >>in Streatham where he suddenly realised that the "half hour of weird shit >>he'd been freaking out to for several months" was in fact HW. > >Do you know which track(s)? I'd be fascinated to know. He know nothing about HW, but from the description there was a mix of "Church.." era and early 90's ambient stuff, with what he described as a "live fucked up bass thing". > >>So when I go back down to London next week I'm under instructions to have >>several C90s worth of HW for him and his teenybopper friends to assimilate. > >How in space are you going to choose what to put on there? Well, I'm spending Sunday on a train with a Discman and 20 odd HW albums, but I suspect it'll be a mix of the above plus some of my own personal faves. > >I once did a set of tapes for a friend where I picked one track from each >official album, which worked quite well. I think I included two tracks >from some albums (e.g. Assault and Battery/The Golden Void). > >Another approach might be an ambient tape, a blanga tape, a metal tape, and >a pyschedelic tape (or something along those lines). Or of course just >pick the tracks that you like most. This might be the way forward, but I'll be up all Tuesday night trying my best! > >Dave. SAH NP AC/DC - Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK From micci at SCI.FI Fri Sep 3 10:16:28 1999 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:16:28 +0300 Subject: HW/NIK: "Hawxtar" CD Message-ID: Hi! >Hi. It's taken me a while to get around to this note. Two weeks ago in San >Diego I found the "Hawxtar" CD at a shop called Off the Record (if you ever >happen to be in the area, don't miss it). This was perhaps one of the rarest >finds I've ever had--it seems to be the bootleg that Henrik made (or at least >he wrote the liner notes) or one of the other Hawkswedes made in '97 from >Nik's appearance w/Darxtar in '95. I was so chuffed I almost peed my pants. >The label says #38/100. Did one of you people dump it off there? It would >seem doubtful. Anyway, somehow it got there. Problem is, the CD itself is >defective; the first few tracks come through okay, then it goes insane. I was >wondering if maybe Henrik, Joe or someone could make me a CD-R of the >recording, sort of as a prize for having found this gem. :) And of course it >would be prime stuff for me to air on my show (especially since it's now >accessible on the Web, right?? ahem! Has anyone tried it yet? Remember it's >Sat 7-9 PST...) > >Chuck Original cd-r came from DarXtar, I think. At least I buy my copy from S?ren and it?s play okey. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 3 12:02:44 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:02:44 +0100 Subject: Epoch-Eclipse In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990903020715.009349b0@pop.casema.net> Message-ID: At 01:08 03/09/99 , cosmos wrote: >so now quite a few of you have it please let me/us know some comment >about the booklet, music etc. Yes - what is Silver Machine like when it's been infected by the scourge of the earth? Dave. From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Sep 3 15:16:48 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:16:48 EDT Subject: HW: "Space Does Not Care" doubles up! Message-ID: Hello. I will be hosting a special 4-hour shift of "Space Does Not Care" this Sat evening, from 5-9 pm PST on 88.3 fm KUCR. So tune in and bliss out. For non-locals, instructions on how to fire up WinAmp below: Instructions for listening to KUCR on the web. 1) Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to hear KUCR. http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your computer. After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program (Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the following http://www.kucr.org:8000 Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up, double click again to reconnect. Chuck's program is on the air at 7:00 pm Pacific Time. The US is currently on daylight savings time which makes us in California minus seven hours from UTC, GMT, Zulu or whatever they call the standard "universal" time in your country. When the time change comes here in the fall, we will be minus eight hours from UTC. So it will be around 0200 or 0300 in Europe for you UK and German fans but "Space Does Not Care" is well worth staying up late for. No fair listening to other KUCR programs after we've gone to all the trouble to get you connected. Just kidding... From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Sep 4 09:47:41 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 14:47:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Classic Rock mag Message-ID: The Hawkwind pr blitz continues with a really rather good feature in Classic Rock magazine. No website for this one, though. --Andy ObCD: Rory Gallagher - _The BBC Sessions_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Sep 4 14:23:11 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 19:23:11 +0100 Subject: hawkwind members list In-Reply-To: <199908241756.TAA17893@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: Sorry to post this all again, but a few queries spring to my mind: can people help me out? On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > Here is a list of all Musicians that ever appeared with HAWKWIND on stage > > ANDERSON DAVE AD BASS VOCALS 71,84,85 These 84, 85 appearances, are they as guests or was he filling in for a temporarily absent Alan? > BLAKE TIM BL KEYBOARD VOCALS 79,80,91 Likewise - guest appearance, was this, or in lieu of departed Harvey? > CALVERT BOB CA VOCALS GUITAR 71-78,81,82,84 81, 82, 84? Is the 82 just gleaned from CYM credits, or did he actually rejoin the band briefly? Knut's page is unforthcoming... And guitar? Where? > CHAPMAN JENNY CP VOCALS 84 Is she on anything recorded? Backing vocals or a pre-Bridget? > CRUM CR KEYBOARD VOCALS 88,89,97 Are the 88 and 89 things as an Agent of Chaos or was he in the main line-up? What was up with Harvey if so? > DUMPY DU GUITAR VOCALS 86,87,88,99 These guest appearances or has he actually filled in? If so, wasn't he also a guest at Blackheath in 1997, or was that someone else? > LEMMY IAN LE BASS VOCALS 71-75,78,79,84-89 Recte Kilmister, if you're going to use any of his real name, surely... > SLATTERY MICK SL GUITAR VOCALS 85 Did he come out of retirement or whatever? I thought he was only on the demo of `Hurry On Sundown'... Guest appearance I take it... > TAYLOR STEVE TY BASS 98 Who was this? Sorry to pick holes, I don't want to include guests on my file as it rapidly leads to more line-ups than releases... Thanks for any help, yours, Jon From novadrive at HOME.COM Sat Sep 4 15:27:53 1999 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 12:27:53 -0700 Subject: hawkwind members list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Sorry to post this all again, but a few queries spring to my mind: > can people help me out? > > > BLAKE TIM BL KEYBOARD VOCALS 79,80,91 > > Likewise - guest appearance, was this, or in lieu of departed > Harvey? Guested in 91 > > CHAPMAN JENNY CP VOCALS 84 > > Is she on anything recorded? Backing vocals or a pre-Bridget? Nothing recorded oficially; vocals at Stonehenge 22/6/84. > > SLATTERY MICK SL GUITAR VOCALS 85 > > Did he come out of retirement or whatever? I thought he was only > on the demo of `Hurry On Sundown'... Guest appearance I take it... Played with the "band" at Hawkon 10/2/85 > > TAYLOR STEVE TY BASS 98 > > Who was this? The fill-in for Ron at Stange Daze 98. Previously played guitar with Nik. Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu < http://members.home.net/novadrive/> From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Sep 4 15:32:16 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 20:32:16 +0100 Subject: hawkwind members list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > > CALVERT BOB CA VOCALS GUITAR 71-78,81,82,84 > > 81, 82, 84? Is the 82 just gleaned from CYM credits, or did he > actually rejoin the band briefly? Knut's page is unforthcoming... And > guitar? Where? Guest shots, such as at the Rainbow. Just for encores, though, I think - I'm sure he didn't play whole shows. And yes, I saw Bob play guitar, on "Cold War Kid" for the Hawklords. --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sun Sep 5 03:27:41 1999 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 09:27:41 +0200 Subject: hawkwind members list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi >>ANDERSON DAVE AD BASS VOCALS 71,84,85 >>These 84, 85 appearances, are they as guests or was he filling in >>for a temporarily absent Alan? He played only the following gigs: (Most of 71 regular) Dunstable Queensway Hall 08.03.84 Thu Reading University 10.03.84 Sat Leicester DeMontfort Hall 11.03.84 Sun Manchester Picadilly Plaza 10.02.85 Sun >> BLAKE TIM BL KEYBOARD VOCALS 79,80,91 >>Likewise - guest appearance, was this, or in lieu of departed Harvey? He played only the following gigs: (From 79-80 regular) Brixton Academy 06.07.91 Sat >>CALVERT BOB CA VOCALS GUITAR 71-78,81,82,84 >>81, 82, 84? Is the 82 just gleaned from CYM credits, or did he >>actually rejoin the band briefly? Knut's page is unforthcoming... And >>guitar? Where? He played only the following gigs: (From 71-78 regular) London Hammersmith Odeon 21.10.81 Wed Folkestone Leas Cliff Hall 10.11.82 Wed Ramsgate Marina Park 28.05.84 Mon >>CHAPMAN JENNY CP VOCALS 84 >>Is she on anything recorded? Backing vocals or a pre-Bridget? She played only the following gigs: Stonehenge Festival 22.06.84 Fri >>CRUM CR KEYBOARD VOCALS 88,89,97 >>Are the 88 and 89 things as an Agent of Chaos or was he in the >>main line-up? He played only the following gigs: (In 97 regular) Birmingham (HD) Kaleidoscope 14.11.88 Mon Camden (HD) Electric Ballroom 16.11.88 Wed Birmingham (HD) Kaleidoscope 27.02.89 Mon Leeds (HD) Phoenix Club 15.03.89 Wed Bristol (HD) Bierkeller 20.03.89 Mon Bath (HD) Langarce Hall 20.04.89 Thu Finsbury Park (HD) George Robey 23.04.89 Sun Wallsall (HD) Junction 10 23.05.89 Tue Inglestone (HD) Festival 27.05.89 Sat Newquay (HD) Famous Firkin 05.08.89 Sat >> DUMPY DU GUITAR VOCALS 86,87,88,99 >>These guest appearances or has he actually filled in? If so, >>wasn't he also a guest at Blackheath in 1997, or was that someone else? He played only the following gigs: Reading Festival 24.08.86 Sun Finsbury Park Acid Daze 23.08.87 Sun London Hammersmith Odeon 21.04.88 Thu Pentrich Coneygrey Showground 30.07.99 Fri >>SLATTERY MICK SL GUITAR VOCALS 85 >>Did he come out of retirement or whatever? I thought he was only >>on the demo of `Hurry On Sundown'... Guest appearance I take it... He played only the following gigs: Manchester Picadilly Plaza 10.02.85 Sun >>TAYLOR STEVE TY BASS 98 >>Who was this? He played only the following gigs: Garrettsville Strange Daze Festival 15.08.98 Sat Bernhard From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Sep 5 05:24:37 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 10:24:37 +0100 Subject: hawkwind members list Message-ID: >> DUMPY DU GUITAR VOCALS 86,87,88,99 > > These guest appearances or has he actually filled in? If so, >wasn't he also a guest at Blackheath in 1997, or was that someone else? That was Huwie, Dumpy guested with the band this year at the Pentrich bike show, along with several other appearances in the late '80s. Nick From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Sep 5 12:32:35 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sun, 5 Sep 1999 17:32:35 +0100 Subject: hawkwind members list In-Reply-To: <001001bef780$7b399b40$137ba8c2@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Nick Lee wrote: > >> DUMPY DU GUITAR VOCALS 86,87,88,99 > > > > These guest appearances or has he actually filled in? If so, > >wasn't he also a guest at Blackheath in 1997, or was that someone else? > > That was Huwie, Dumpy guested with the band this year at the Pentrich bike > show, along with several other appearances in the late '80s. D'oh! Of course Huwie was at Blackheath. I meant Shepherd's Bush - who was the guest bass player there? I believe he's in the _IYA_ liner too, whoever he is, big chap with metal in his face. Thanks for all the other info, by the way, people... yours, Jon From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Mon Sep 6 04:12:07 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 09:12:07 +0100 Subject: OFF: Masters of Reality / Karma to Burn Message-ID: As already noted here, Masters of Reality play London's Borderline on saturday 11th. Just across town at the Garage, for one night only, Karma to Burn are playing if that's more your taste. Two great bands on the same night. Bugger. On the same night ! Tim PS: I notice a big stack of the debut by Unida (John Garcia's new band) in HMV. Any comments ? From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Sep 6 08:16:42 1999 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:16:42 +0100 Subject: hawkwind members list Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Jarrett To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Sunday, September 05, 1999 5:32 PM Subject: Re: hawkwind members list > On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Nick Lee wrote: > > > >> DUMPY DU GUITAR VOCALS 86,87,88,99 > > > > > > These guest appearances or has he actually filled in? If so, > > >wasn't he also a guest at Blackheath in 1997, or was that someone else? > > > > That was Huwie, Dumpy guested with the band this year at the Pentrich bike > > show, along with several other appearances in the late '80s. > > D'oh! Of course Huwie was at Blackheath. I meant Shepherd's Bush - > who was the guest bass player there? I believe he's in the _IYA_ liner > too, whoever he is, big chap with metal in his face. > That's a good description of Mr Dibs from Spacehead who played several encores (Ejection) on the '97 tour, as well as being bus driver. Also guested in Cornwall. Neil From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Sep 6 09:44:31 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 14:44:31 +0100 Subject: Epoch-Eclipse In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990903170215.00948ac0@pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <4.1.19990903170215.00948ac0 at pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk>, Dave Berry writes >At 01:08 03/09/99 , cosmos wrote: >>so now quite a few of you have it please let me/us know some comment >>about the booklet, music etc. > >Yes - what is Silver Machine like when it's been infected by the scourge of >the earth? > >Dave. Did you like the Ritual of The Solstice stuff? Its very like the rest that. Sub-Firestarter "Big Beat" sound, but not many interesting samples to be honest apart from a great one at the end - "sorry about all these things going wrong and that..." great wobbly voice effect on Lemmy, but not fantastic overall sadly. you'll still have to buy it of course...I see Cauty is signing himself Zeus B. Held, a pseudonym I've used myself here, curses.... Originally an obscure '70's Krautrocker I first heard on "Unknown Deutcheland Vol.1", it couldn't be the same Zeus B. Held, now could it....? -- Jon B. Held From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Sep 6 12:36:29 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:36:29 EDT Subject: Fwd: Terrascopic News Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Ptolemaic Terrascope Subject: Terrascopic News Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 12:57:59 -0400 Size: 3384 URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 6 12:50:08 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 17:50:08 +0100 Subject: HW: Classic Rock mag In-Reply-To: Andy Gilham's message of Sat, 4 Sep 1999 14:47:41 +0100 Message-ID: Andy Gilham writes: > The Hawkwind pr blitz continues with a really rather good feature in Classic > Rock magazine. No website for this one, though. Can anyone type in the text of the Grauniad/Select/Classic Rock reviews? ta in advance! FoFP From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Sep 6 16:02:16 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 21:02:16 +0100 Subject: hawkwind members list Message-ID: Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > D'oh! Of course Huwie was at Blackheath. I meant Shepherd's Bush - >who was the guest bass player there? I believe he's in the _IYA_ liner >too, whoever he is, big chap with metal in his face. > > Thanks for all the other info, by the way, people... yours, > Jon That was Mr Dibs of Spacehead/Krel. He guest for all the dates I caught on that tour, doing the 'Ground Control to Pilot...' intro to Ejection at all shows and playing bass for the same song at the later ones on the tour. Nick From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Sep 6 16:24:19 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 16:24:19 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Set-list 9/4 Message-ID: Hello. Did anyone by any chance tune in to this through WinAmp? If so, let me know. It came in perfectly, so if you're not local, and want to hear the show, you may want to give it a try (instructions follow set-list). "Space Does Not Care" 9/4/99, 88.3 fm KUCR, Saturdays 7-9 pm PST 4-Hour Set 1.Hawkwind--Assault & Battery (Warrior on the Edge of Time) 2.The Orb--Valley (Orbus Terrarum) 3.Quarkspace--Voyage (Spacefolds 5) 4.Sundial--Exploding in Your Mind (Other Way Out) 5.Daniel Lanois--Still Water (Acadie) 6.The Tea Party--Shadows on the Mountain Side (Edges of Twilight) 7.Farflung--The Raven that Ate the Moon (Raven that Ate the Moon, So Many Minds So Little Time) 8.Alien Planetscapes--Prince Chubbs (Turn Century Turn comp ) 9.Helios Creed--Un-human Condition (X-rated Fairy Tales) "Kraut-hour" 10.Kluster--Klopfzeichen part 1 (Klopfzeichen) 11.Faust--Devoted Bone Dance (Space Box comp) 12.Can--Mother Sky (Soundtracks, Cannibalism 1) 13.Agitation Free--In the Silence of the Morning Sunrise (At the Cliffs of the River Rhine, Psychedelic Underground 3) 14.Amon Duul 2--Sandoz in the Rain (Yeti) 15.My Dying Bride--Your River (Turn Loose the Swans) 16.Bloodrock--D.O.A. (Bloodrock Live) 17.Daevid Allen's University of Errors--False Teacher (Same ) 18.Blue Oyster Cult--Before the Kiss, a Redcap (On Your Feet Or On Your Knees) 19.Anubian Lights--Frequency of Sand (Let Not the Flame Die Out) 20.Hawkwind--We Do It (Anthology/Acid Daze) 21.Subarachnoid Space--Talking Tina and Her Mechanical Frog (Delicate Membrane) 22.Frank Zappa--Eric Dolphy Memorial Barbecue (Weazels Ripped My Flesh) 23.Captain Beafheart and His Magic Band--Owed T' Alex (Shiny Beast ) 24.John Johnston--Undertaker (WWF Music Vol. 3) 25.F/i--An Observation; The Eye at the Top of the Pyramid (Out of Space, Out of Time) 26.Gong--Flying Teapot (Live Etc.) 27.Tangle Edge--Dxui (Turn Century Turn comp) 28.Sprial Realms--Solar Flares (Trip to G9) Thanks, Chuck Instructions for listening to KUCR on the web. 1) Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to hear KUCR. http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your computer. After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program (Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the following http://www.kucr.org:8000 Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up, double click again to reconnect. Chuck's program is on the air at 7:00 pm Pacific Time. The US is currently on daylight savings time which makes us in California minus seven hours from UTC, GMT, Zulu or whatever they call the standard "universal" time in your country. When the time change comes here in the fall, we will be minus eight hours from UTC. So it will be around 0200 or 0300 in Europe for you UK and German fans but "Space Does Not Care" is well worth staying up late for. No fair listening to other KUCR programs after we've gone to all the trouble to get you connected. Just kidding... From vincentr at COGNOS.COM Tue Sep 7 12:03:49 1999 From: vincentr at COGNOS.COM (Rob Vincent) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:03:49 -0400 Subject: HW : Ledge Of Darkness Message-ID: For anyone who has the 25 Years On boxed set ... Does anyone have a complete rundown of who is who in the middle part of the Ledge Of Darkness graphic novel that came with 25 Years On ? I can get most of them, but a fair number of others (Anquet, The Shot Down Kid, etc.) escape me. Rainmaker Elijah Snow : It's a strange world Jakita Wagner : Let's keep it that way Planetary #1 From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Sep 7 18:47:59 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 18:47:59 EDT Subject: OFF: HALLOOO....halloo....hal...h... Message-ID: lots of echo in this BOC-L room when it's empty... (sigh) "<>" From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Sep 8 12:42:27 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 17:42:27 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind in good NME review shock! Message-ID: Hi, it looks like the server's currently down so I don't if anyone has has already posted about this. This week's NME contains a review of Epoch-Eclipse (the 3-CD version) giving it 8/10. The last favourable mention I can think of in the NME was the two-page spread they got around the time of Space Bandits (its reprinted in one of Trev Hughes' booklets, if its not been scanned and posted anywhere). "Several men on drugs. Quite possibly playing in your garden now. Hell of a band." Nick From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Sep 8 15:36:52 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:36:52 EDT Subject: OFF: TEST Message-ID: I haven't rec'd any mail from BOC-L in about 4-5 days, so obviously something's up. From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Wed Sep 8 19:03:38 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 19:03:38 -0400 Subject: test Message-ID: Hello? Anyone there? From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Sep 9 11:40:38 1999 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 08:40:38 PDT Subject: BOC: BOC+T&M Reissue Message-ID: I have the Columbia CD's and at the end of Workshop of the Telescopes, when the guitar goes off swirling around through some kind of tremelo or echo effect, it peaks out my speakers - does the remastered doubled CD package do aomething about this....are the levels more consistent? Chris. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Thu Sep 9 14:03:04 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 14:03:04 -0400 Subject: HW: Passports Message-ID: Do I need to include an IRC? (International Reply Coupon?) when I send in my completed passport? From the US side of the Atlantic? From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 9 14:47:34 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 19:47:34 +0100 Subject: New BOC-L Project - UK/US Currency conversion service. Message-ID: This has been agreed between Doug Pearson (in the US) and myself (in the UK). Note though that Doug is away for 3 weeks and so it may take a little time to get things moving. We all know that bankers charge ridiculous amounts to enable you to write a cheque in a foreign currency, and that often when buying a CD privately from someone abroad, this can amount to more than the cost of the CD. As some of you know, I've run around that problem when tanks have paid me Dollars by having those Dollars sent to an account I have at Laissez Faire Books in the US. That account now holds more than my regular bank account and my equivalent of Bridget Jones' fear that she'll die alone and be eaten by alsatians is that I'll die with a "to read" pile that's taller than I am. Short of taking a year out to do nothing but read and eat, that's looking like a certainty. So Doug and I have agreed, initially on an experimental basis, to facilitate a new arrangement which should be to the benefit of all of us who buy stuff from across the water. How this will work is that there will be a facilitator in the US and one in the UK, these being at least initially, Doug and myself. Say someone in the US wants to buy something in the UK for 30 Pounds. They email Doug and I with the details. The 30 Pounds is translated into Dollars at the current exchange rate. Let's say 48 Dollars. They add 3 Dollars (or 2 Pounds going the other way). They send 51 Dollars to Doug. Doug tells me when he has the money and then I send out a cheque for 30 Pounds to the seller. The buyer arranges with the seller that the goods will be sent directly to the buyer. What happens if the goods don't arrive is arranged between the buyer and seller as usual. Doug and I facilitate only the currency exchange. Ideally trades on both sides of the atlantic will be roughly equal. What will happen is that Doug and I will keep a tally of which of us owes the other what. If this gets too far out of line (say 100 Pounds or equivalent) then one of us sends money to the other to rebalance this. Obviously that will cost something in currency exchange too, though by aggregation it should be a lot less than several small individual trades.. This cost, plus stationery and stamps, will be paid out of the accumulating fund of the 2 Pound/3 Dollar addition to each transaction. It's possible that the timing of this vis a vis currency movements could see us losing money and this again would be compensated from the account from the transaction fees. It may be that this ends up as simply too much work for us. We'll run it experimentally to find out. However, hopefully it'll be a useful service to us all and save some money from the bankers besides. Obviously for the rest of you, it does require that you trust both Doug and myself financially. That's probably easy for those who have already dealt with us. I'd suggest that to reassure others, those who feel they want to vouch for us should just go ahead and do so. To get things started I've sent out a 70 Pounds cheque to cover a buy by Doug himself. Note again though that Doug is away until near the end of September. Meanwhile let me know of any queries, comments, or suggestions. Cheers FoFP (Co-founder of The First Virtual Bank of Hawkwind) From c.d.bates at SHU.AC.UK Mon Sep 6 07:38:30 1999 From: c.d.bates at SHU.AC.UK (chris bates) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 12:38:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Guardian review In-Reply-To: "Ted Jackson jr. s2h2"'s message of "Fri, 3 Sep 1999 07:26:49 EDT" Message-ID: "Ted Jackson jr. s2h2" writes: Andy G wrote: > > Today's Guardian newspaper has a good review of epoch-eclipse - you can find > > it on-line in the Friday review section from www.guardian.co.uk. > > > > Sample comment on Lemmy's departure: "fired over drugs; like sacking Beckham > > for playing football." And Theo Followed up with: > This is a GREAT review! Only complaint is that it's too short... Very positive in so far as it went. However as with so many reviews of HW it came to the conclusion that 70s = good, 80s and 90s = not so good. Which, whilst I guess it's the concensus here on BOC-L is not something I agree with. I think EMI are doing a great job of promoting epoch-eclipse. Apart from all of the reviews there are plenty of adverts too. The Guardian had ads for 2 record shops (MVC and Andys I think) which both showed it amongst their albums of the week. This will have 2 effects: older fans who'd stopped listening will be informed that the Hawks are still flying and new fans will be attracted. Bloomin' marvellous! -- Chris Bates Lecturer: School of Computing and Management Sciences Sheffield Hallam University c.d.bates at shu.ac.uk From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu Sep 9 17:47:46 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 22:47:46 +0100 Subject: HW : Ledge Of Darkness Message-ID: Rob Vincent writes: >Does anyone have a complete rundown of who is who in the middle part of >the Ledge Of Darkness graphic novel that came with 25 Years On ? I can get >most of them, but a fair number of others (Anquet, The Shot Down Kid, >etc.) escape me. > I reckon that The Shot Down Kid would be Steve Swindells as for Anquet, not so sure. Nick From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Sep 9 18:42:10 1999 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 23:42:10 +0100 Subject: HW Release Message-ID: I see that there is a "new" CD release advertised in Classic Rock called "Year 2000 - Codename Hawkwind" featuring remastered live recordings of the band from'72. I fear the worst: not Text Of Festival again!! Who buys this stuff? Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Plug, plug. :) --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of M Holmes > Sent: 06 September 1999 17:50 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: HW: Classic Rock mag > > > Andy Gilham writes: > > > The Hawkwind pr blitz continues with a really rather good > feature in Classic > > Rock magazine. No website for this one, though. > > Can anyone type in the text of the Grauniad/Select/Classic Rock reviews? > > ta in advance! > > FoFP > From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Sep 9 21:03:25 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:03:25 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind in good NME review shock! In-Reply-To: <000301befa19$2409c8e0$ba4aa8c2@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: > it looks like the server's currently down so I don't if anyone has has > already posted about this. This week's NME contains a review of > Epoch-Eclipse (the 3-CD version) giving it 8/10. Nostradamus said the world would end in July, but this is definitely a sign of the end times. (Either that or EMI's pr budget is bigger than I thought :) --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Sep 9 21:03:26 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:03:26 +0100 Subject: HW Release In-Reply-To: <001401befb14$8e8437e0$2e37883e@default> Message-ID: Yep, it's the same old shite. Again. "Remastered" this time, though. --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of david hall Sent: 09 September 1999 23:42 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: HW Release I see that there is a "new" CD release advertised in Classic Rock called "Year 2000 - Codename Hawkwind" featuring remastered live recordings of the band from'72. I fear the worst: not Text Of Festival again!! Who buys this stuff? Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Sep 9 21:46:13 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 21:46:13 -0400 Subject: UK/US Currency conversion Message-ID: Mike sed... >So Doug and I have agreed, initially on an experimental basis, to >facilitate a new arrangement which should be to the benefit of all of >us who buy stuff from across the water. Sounds great. So, if this proposed giant series of releases (the HAWKVP series) from the band comes about, and if they're the 'passport-only' type of items a la HW'97, can we use this service to order items from Dave? Will you collect all our names, addresses, and passport numbers and pass them (and the money) along to Dave, while we send all our US$ and checks to Doug P.? (I imagine this might be when the balance gets raised to your 100 UKP limit.) But it would sure be convenient!! Keith H. (FAA) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 10 07:58:20 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:58:20 +0100 Subject: UK/US Currency conversion In-Reply-To: Keith Henderson's message of Thu, 9 Sep 1999 21:46:13 -0400 Message-ID: Keith Henderson writes: > Mike sed... > > >So Doug and I have agreed, initially on an experimental basis, to > >facilitate a new arrangement which should be to the benefit of all of > >us who buy stuff from across the water. > > Sounds great. > > So, if this proposed giant series of releases (the HAWKVP series) from the > band comes about, and if they're the 'passport-only' type of items a la > HW'97, can we use this service to order items from Dave? Will you collect > all our names, addresses, and passport numbers and pass them (and the money) > along to Dave, while we send all our US$ and checks to Doug P.? (I imagine > this might be when the balance gets raised to your 100 UKP limit.) But it > would sure be convenient!! If we can do it all in one deal rather than my sending out cheques to Dave every second day then yeah, why not. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 10 08:01:34 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:01:34 +0100 Subject: Epoch Eclipse Message-ID: I was doing this stuff for the Codex, and hence comparing 'em to the EMI remasters. I have to conclude that the sound on the Epoch CD's is way better than the sound on the Remasters. Also, at the start of "Quark" on the CD, I get that first quack or whatever yo'd call it, three times. Presumably this is deliberate rather than some weird error. FoFP From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Fri Sep 10 08:43:13 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:43:13 -0400 Subject: Epoch Eclipse In-Reply-To: <199909101201.NAA15270@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>; from M Holmes on Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 01:01:34PM +0100 Message-ID: On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 01:01:34PM +0100, M Holmes wrote: > I was doing this stuff for the Codex, and hence comparing 'em to the EMI > remasters. I have to conclude that the sound on the Epoch CD's is way > better than the sound on the Remasters. In what way, Mike? I've always felt a bit awkward trashing the sound quality of the holy EMI remasters, but it sounds to me like they did the audible equivalent of using soft-focus photography to hide the skin problems on the model. I'm curious whether you noted the same thing, or are describing a different phenomenon. Steve swann at plutonia.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 10 10:05:20 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:05:20 +0100 Subject: Epoch Eclipse In-Reply-To: Stephen Swann's message of Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:43:13 -0400 Message-ID: Stephen Swann writes: > On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 01:01:34PM +0100, M Holmes wrote: > > I was doing this stuff for the Codex, and hence comparing 'em to the EMI > > remasters. I have to conclude that the sound on the Epoch CD's is way > > better than the sound on the Remasters. > > In what way, Mike? I've always felt a bit awkward trashing the sound > quality of the holy EMI remasters, but it sounds to me like they did > the audible equivalent of using soft-focus photography to hide the > skin problems on the model. I'm curious whether you noted the same > thing, or are describing a different phenomenon. Could be. I though the remasters seemed mushy compared to the Epoch Eclipse stuff, though it's claimed that the latter came from the former. > Steve FoFP From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Sep 10 09:24:24 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:24:24 -0400 Subject: OFF: CMJ/Tour dates (long) Message-ID: Hi Folks....the big CMJ music marathon is coming up next week in New York City. For any of those in the area who are looking for some shows to attend, here are my recommendations, for what they're worth. :) Either a brief comment, or an actual review that I've written for Aural Innovations will appear below each entry. I hope this helps. (Note...for those outside of the NYC region, skip down to the bottom as there's more tour info there...) This event, I gather, is really a showcase for bands looking for labels, and vice versa, though most every show is open to the public I believe. But don't forget to call the venues first before heading out to the show...these things tend to change at the last minute, I'm sure you're aware! :) For more info, check www.cmj.com and click on 'music marathon.' Again, I'm gonna post this to all the mailing lists I think are relevant...of course, some of you might be on multiple lists like me, so I apologize for loading up your mailboxes. :) Keith H. (FAA) Aural Innovations Maga'zine' http://www.infinet.com/~jkranitz/space/space.html Here goes... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 10th Planet Baby Jupiter 9-18 Sat. 11:00pm I assume this is Malcolm Mooney's (ex-Can) band. ? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Aspera Ad Astra Cooler 9-15 Wed. 10:30pm Aspera Ad Astra - Peace (1998) AudioInformationPhenomena (AIP 03) A quartet from Philadelphia, AAA delivers that thick, dreamy space that is usually associated with the midlands of England. This recording, apparently their debut, was made at the Asteroid #4's Deep Space Studio (see A#4 interview/review) and not surprisingly, the two bands share some common ground. The liner notes for Peace aren't particularly informative, but the four (Matt, Mark, Justin, and Drew) obviously man the standard instrumentation (guitars, bass, and drums), along with some piano, various sound effects and sampled bits. The album sports eight tracks (plus an untitled bonus track stuck on at the end), mostly slowly-driven, deliberate tunes that work not to 'rock your boat' or anything, but rather to lull you into a state of contented indifference. The drummer, however, does his best to move things along, and this is evident right from the outset in the Bonham-esque intro to "Taking to Waking." In the end, the tune loses out to too much sappiness and mirrors the problem with too many hip alternative bands. Things improve dramatically with the next two tracks - "Sick 'n' Sad" jacks up the spaciness and features intertwining guitar lines; "Step into Me" on one hand drags in the mire, but then again features irresistible shimmer-guitar playing and a totally cosmic bridge section. A prime example of how music can sound both retro and uniquely modern. Following a couple less-inspired tracks of mostly piano noodlings, "Scannin' Lights" gets right back to the thick, interwoven drone guitars and a downright heavy chorus. The final credited track, "Take it Easy," is another dreamy piece that goes through more development, with spacey interludes amidst loud fuzz-guitar and more heavy-hitting percussion. Call it 'shoegazer' rock if you will, but Aspera Ad Astra succeed in creating cosmic soundscapes that are both musically interesting and accessible. And it's more challenging to make an album of laid-back tunes and make it work, while avoiding the temptation of covering up deficiencies in writing with misguided bravado and/or heavy sludge. Thankfully, they avoid these crutches, but I do get the feeling that they'd take a step forward if they just let their hair down once in a while and just let loose with reckless abandon. Contact Aspera Ad Astra at P.O. Box 2302, Philadelphia, PA 19103-0302, or AudioInformationPhenomena at 1625 Oakwood Dr., San Mateo, CA 94403 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Asteroid #4 Cooler 9-15 Wed. 11:30pm The fine full-length debut, Introducing...the Asteroid #4 was released this past year (1998) on their own Lounge Records label (lounge #011). You can take one look at the 'oil blot' design on the album cover, or the mop-top haircuts, sideburns, and paisley shirts they sported on that Sunday afternoon, and think, "Oh man, I bet these guys hear no end to the 'retro' label." Though, as we will see in the interview below, that doesn't seem to be the case. I hope that's because music critics on the eastern seaboard recognize the modern qualities to the band's music. My suspicion is, though, that the Neanderthal mainstream writers that would relentlessly tag A#4 as "stuck in the 60s," simply haven't been bothered to take notice of a space-rock band who's just released their debut. With luck, these Philly gents might just soar on past the local scene and find international success. After only a single spin of Introducing... I was immediately impressed with the variety of styles offered - old, new, borrowed, and blue. Following an ambient Cluster-style opening, we're treated to a number of pleasant laid-back ditties, at various times sounding shimmery, droney, and/or dreamy. One might be urged to compare "No More Vitamins" and "Underbelly of a Mushroom" to various Pink Floyd tracks (in particular, "On the Run" and "Set the Controls"), though the guitar sounds are distinctly modern, not really Gilmour-style at all. "What a Sorry Way to Go" finishes off Side A (how quaint!), a hippy-dippy type of tune (read Donovan) with an Eastern flavor, complete with what sounds like a hurdy-gurdy. Despite how that might seem, it sounds entirely fresh - inexplicable really. The second half of the album (Side B) is where things really get exciting - A#4 ups the energy level, and also the space! While some bands may be content to wallow away in their subtle textural experimentation at the expense of any excitement, here we have a modern dream-drone band that isn't afraid to drop the gloves and turn the amps up once in a while. On "Egyptians & Druids," the layers of blanga bass, cosmic gliss guitar, and atmospherics build gradually towards a cosmic finale. Then, the calm before the storm arrives in the form of "Visitation Rights," which begins with a laid-back and groovy bass line, and then is topped off with quiescent gliss-guitar - wonderfully cosmic, man! Finally, we reach the climax of the album with "Kate and the King," which starts out as a simple vocal tune, but then goes through a complete metamorphosis into an extended, heavy space-jam, complete with flute soloing by guest Hugh Luck - brilliant! The album wraps up with a taste of true nostalgia in the form of the Beatle-esque "Honey Bee," with the obligatory sitar - just a bit of fun. I see Asteroid #4 as a manifestation of the entire 'space-time continuum,' with characteristics of the 70s (Pink Floyd), the 80s (Ozric Tentacles), and the 90s (early Verve) all represented. In a way, I think most modern music in any era can be related back to what has come before, so it follows that we truly are receiving something truly novel and progressive here. And as this is only their debut, we should expect to see more innovations arriving in the future from the chunk of cosmic debris known as the Asteroid #4. Contact: Lounge Records, P.O. Box 609, Feasterville, PA 19053 (www.voicenet.com/~lounge/) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Bob Mould Irving Plaza 9-16 Thur. 12:00am The ex-H?sker D?/ex-Sugar guitarist/singer. I've always liked him. Loud and fuzzy, occasionally mellow and introspective. Who cares if he's gay? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Daevid Allen's University of Errors Knitting Factory (Old Office) 9-17 Fri. 11:00pm Daevid Allen's University of Errors - Money Doesn't Make It (1999) innerSPACE 7707 A chance meeting between Gong's Daevid Allen and the members of Mushroom led to the entirely spontaneous formation of 'The University of Errors.' Literally days later, the tracks archived on "Money Doesn't Make It" were recorded, and now less than a year later we can all enjoy the results of this synergistic pairing. The mixing of Daevid's unique word-play compositions with the improvisational genius of Mushroom's core members has produced a fine work of art, but one that also has a message and a heaping of sly humor. Daevid (it doesn't seem right calling him 'Allen') wasn't blessed with the world's best singing voice, but here he puts on quite an excellent vocal performance. And even though there is no hint of synthesizers (or keyboards of any kind) herein, it retains a truly cosmic feel throughout. >From the opening title track, Daevid gets straight to the point, that being a general cynicism with modern technology and the commercial hype of the western world. "Burn your money, free that child. Don't teach children to work a crooked mind." He delivers these words of wisdom in a somewhat rappish style against a phased-out rhythm section (?) and Josh Pollock's psychedelic guitar wizardry. On 'Prince of Sidewalk Scooter,' Submarine Cap'n Michael Clare lays down a fabulously smooth bassline that seems to grab up all the other instruments and carry them along on a blanket of air. Oh, this is a wonderous nine-minute piece, ethereal bits of gliss guitar sprinkled amongst more inspired ranting from Daevid ending simply with, "Throw your computer in the trash." How often I get that urge...but the thing is, my computer is where I write these reviews. Sorry. >From ranting and rapping, we switch to chanting and incantations for 'False Teacher' and 'Mullimbimby Mother,' as the band jams along to an Eastern 'tune.' Erik Pearson, another Mushroom protagonist, adds some excellent flute touches to a mix of swirly, often phased (or treated) strums and drums, and a partially hidden (but inspired) guitar solo from Pollock on the latter. The latter part of the album is a collection of shorter, more peculiar bits and pieces, highlighted by the heavier riffing in 'Talkwind Upswerve' and a reprise of the title track. Here, studio trickery results in a herky-jerky cut-and-splice reading of "Burn Your Money." Effective way to wrap up 45 minutes of very strong material. I don't know where this union of Bay Area musicnauts and the 'Astral Alien' will eventually lead, or even whether it will continue with regularity (the planned live dates are a promising sign), but this is the strongest release from the Gong family I've heard in a long while. It's the kind of thing though that certainly feeds on spontaneity - so I hope future efforts also happen without any prior planning, as it seems to have worked wonders on this debut effort. Go out of your way to track this one down, if you can. Contact: innerSPACE, P.O. Box 411241, San Francisco, CA 94141-1241. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Dark Star Bowery Ballroom 9-17 Fri. 9:00pm Not sure if this is the correct Dark Star (as below), but it's my best guess!! Call to confirm. The newest Dark Star, this British trio was derived from members left over from the band Levitation upon Terry Bickers' split to form his own band Cradle. I managed to track down their second CD-EP, the four-song "I Am the Sun," and while it doesn't quite live up to my expectations based on my fondness for Levitation's "Coterie," I do see significant merit to this music. Two versions of the high-octane rocker "I Am The Sun" are offered, including the dreaded remix. But, lo and behold, the remix version is actually the better of the two! (That's a first.) The lyrics seem a tad inane, though - for instance, "Joan of Arc was cool, but she got burned. Like I'm burning out for you, I'm centrifugal." Hayes voice is perfectly suited to this material such that they really aren't undermanned as a trio. Next, "Living Under the Ground" is a subtle, shimmery piece that only Porcupine Tree do better. To wrap up our short look at these 'newcomers,' "Semaphore" is straight from the Levitation playbook - sweet, soft, and supple harmonic tones from both bass and guitar, a touch of glissando and various sampled vocals. The full-length album "Twenty Twenty Sound" should be available soon, and I hope to find more goodies then. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Marc Olsen CB's 313 Gallery 9-16 Thur. 11:00pm Dunno much anything about his solo works, but he used to be the guitarist for Sky Cries Mary, the Seattle-based avant-space rock combo...one of my favourites. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ NovaSonic Down Hyper Space Cooler 9-15 Wed 9:45pm This band is warming up for Quarkspace in Chicago soon...dunno anything about them otherwise. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Pretty Things Maxwell's 9-17 Fri. 11:00pm Did somebody say they were cancelling their shows over here?? Perhaps my brain is fried....they're still listed on 'Pollstar.' ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Queens of the Stone Age Wetlands Preserve 9-16 Thur. 12:00am The Stoner Kings formerly known as Kyuss. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Super Furry Animals Bowery Ballroom 9-15 Wed. 12:00am Not my favourite, but still.... Super Furry Animals - Radiator (1999) Flydaddy (Fly 034) SFA is sort of the Welsh answer to Athens, Georgia's 'Elephant 6' collective that includes Olivia Tremor Control, Neutral Milk Hotel, and Elf Power, among others. Accordingly, their quirky psych-pop owes a bit to Sgt. Pepper-era Beatles and perhaps even the Jetsons. 'Radiator,' the follow-up to the 1996 debut 'Fuzzy Logic,' is already kinda old (released in 1997 in the UK) as they've already got 'Guerilla' lined up for release on Creation Records in the UK. However, they've just been touring here in the U.S., and are starting to receive some attention and high praise. There's one simple way of telling whether or not you might like 'Radiator'....it comes down to poppy harmonizing. On one track ('The International Language of Screaming') it's "La...la...la," later ('Short Painkiller') it's "Ooh...ooh...ooh," and finally ('Herman loves Pauline') it's "Bop...bop...bop." OK, there's a true spirit of fun and an a party atmosphere overall, but the cheesy choruses turn dreadful real quick. The music isn't all bad though and Gruff Rhys, the band's lead vocalist, actually has a fine voice on his own. SFA also produce a lot of variety, a bouncy surf tune here, a touch of techno/drum 'n' bass there, and a host of rompin' retro rockers. But there's still a lot of dreariness to wade through until you reach the album's stronger tunes, all clustered at the end. On 'Bass Tuned To D.E.A.D', guitarist Huw Bunford lays down an opening jammin' riff, but it's really the Mellotronish synths and cool phaser-buzzing that flavor this tune and make it one of the album's true highlights. Similar noises and bleeps are featured in 'Down A Different River,' which ranges back and forth between a laid-back dreamy piece and grandiose power ballardry. The vocals are really well done here, so I've stopped cringing for the moment. The remainder of the album is decent enough, and even wraps up with a taste of an old-style space march on 'Mountain People.' This music isn't really my 'thing,' so it can only have a certain limited appeal to my tastes - and given that, 'Radiator' is at least tolerable, and even pretty cool in places. I don't mind their open silliness and quirky retro stylings...it's really the harmony vocals and occasional bright sounds (crashy cymbals and trumpets) that I can't stomach too much. And since they've already completely revamped their style once (they started out as a techno band), perhaps they'll evolve into something more palatable to me. Contact: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Seven Percent Solution Twilo 9-15 Wed. 7:00pm Another can't miss item for AI readers is 7% Solution's All About Satellites and Spaceships (1996), which bridges the gap between modern dreamy space (aka, shoegazer rock) and classic space rock. Accordingly, fans of the Verve (particularly A Storm in Heaven) and Hawkwind alike should delight in 7% Solution's style. "Built on Sand" and "Happy?" are both the thickly-layered misty melange that Levitation used to create so well in their day. On the other hand, "Revolve" and "Blindshore" are cosmic mindtrips in the Melting Euphoria style, and really bring out the best in these Austin natives. "The Road and the Common" is a classic 'cigarette-lighter' ballad, and maps out yet one more dimension for this band that can range from ambient to jam rock with ease and continuity. A real find. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That's it...for those outside the NYC area, you still might catch 7% Solution either alone, or paired up with Bevis Frond. Seven Percent Solution Tour (as it stands) Saturday, September 11, 1999 10:00 PM Wreck Room - Fort Worth,TX With: The Tomorrow People Wednesday, September 15, 1999 7:00 PM Twilo - New York, New York Thursday, September 30, 1999 10:00 PM Ridglea Theater - Fort Worth, TX With: Bevis Frond Friday, October 01, 1999 10:00 PM Mary Jane's - Houston,TX With: Bevis Frond Saturday, October 02, 1999 10:00 PM Ritz Lounge - Austin, TX With: Bevis Frond Thursday, October 14, 1999 10:00 PM Empty Bottle - Chicago, IL With: Bevis Frond Friday, October 15, 1999 10:00 PM Cactus Club - Milwaukee, WI Saturday, October 16, 1999 10:00 PM 7th Street Entry - Minneapolis, MN Friday, October 29, 1999 10:00 PM Rudyard's - Houston, TX Friday, November 26, 1999 10:00 PM Stubb's - Austin, TX ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Of course, anyone who's capable of getting to one of these venues (below) should definitely check out these bands touring together. I'm familiar will all three, and highly recommend them all! Primordial Undermind (San Francisco) Sat 9/11 Los Altos, CA - KFJC (webcast at www.kfjc.org 2PM local time) Sun 9/12 San Francisco, CA - Bottom of the Hill w/Subarachnoid Space/St Andre Tues 9/14 Salt Lake City, UT - Safari Club w/Landing Weds 9/15 Iowa City, IA - Gabe's w/Pointy Birds P.U. w/Salamander (Minneapolis) Thurs 9/16 Minneapolis, MN - 400 Bar + Skye Klad / Vortex Navigation Co P.U. w/Salamander and Overhang Party (Japan, with Michio Kurihara) Fri 9/17 Pittsburgh, PA - Stevenson Theater Sat 9/18 Philadelphia, PA - Khyber Pass (Insidious Spectacle Fest) www.maltlicker.com Sun 9/19 New York, NY - WFMU (webcast at www.wfmu.org) - [not sure if this is a CMJ show also?] Mon 9/20 Brooklyn, NY - The Charleston w/ Tono Bungay Tues 9/21 Somerville, MA - Abbey Lounge w/ Yankee Candle Weds 9/22 Cambridge, MA - Middle East + Major Stars Thurs 9/23 Easthampton, MA - Flywheel Collective / Josh Burkett Fri 9/24 Buffalo, NY - Mohawk Place Sat 9/25 Detroit, MI - Detroit Contemp.Gallery w/ Urban Farmers Sun 9/26 Cleveland, OH - Speak in Tongues w/ Fuzzhead Mon 9/27 Chicago, IL - Empty Bottle Tues 9/28 Madison, WI ? From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 10 11:35:50 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:35:50 +0100 Subject: Epoch-Eclipse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 14:44 06/09/99 , Jon Browne wrote: >I see Cauty is signing himself Zeus B. Held, a pseudonym I've used myself >here, curses.... >Originally an obscure '70's Krautrocker I first heard on "Unknown >Deutcheland Vol.1", it couldn't be the same Zeus B. Held, now could >it....? Dunno about that, but I notice that the Love In Space single (with Lord of Light/Sonic Attack) is credited as being remixed by Zeus B. Held and Matt Dietrich. (Although to be honest, the version of Sonic Attack sounds more remixed than Love In Space). (Is this the version of Love In Space on Epoch-Eclipse?) Just playing this now -- it's a real shame they didn't include this version of Lord Of Light on the Love In Space album. While I can see that it's not the best version ever, it's still pretty good, and would have fitted well. (I've said this before, I know...) Dave. From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 10 11:30:56 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:30:56 +0100 Subject: HW: Guardian review In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 12:38 06/09/99 , chris bates wrote: >I think EMI are doing a great job of promoting epoch-eclipse. I agree. The actual content isn't that different from earlier compilations such as 25 Years On or the 3-CD Anthology set, but this set is getting coverage from loads of different publications. Also, the idea of pairing the box set with a single CD "best of" is a good one. On the one hand, it draws in punters who might be willing to risk the price of one CD, but not a boxed set. On the other hand, it appeals to me -- not being a Kollector, I don't really want a 3-CD collection of stuff I already own, but there the single CD is worth it because it has several songs or versions of songs that I don't have elsewhere. (E.g. I don't think I have Back On The Streets on CD; I'm sure I don't have Night Of The Hawks anymore, I don't have the radio edit of Right To Decide, or the Roswell (single?) edit or Alien I Am. I do have a single version of Love In Space, but only on a single, so the inclusion on the compilation is nice. The inclusion of Urban Guerilla is also welcome, just because it doesn't turn up on live albums, and I like it a lot. And of course there's the KLF remix). >However as with so many reviews >of HW it came to the conclusion that 70s = good, 80s and 90s = not >so good. Which, whilst I guess it's the concensus here on BOC-L is >not something I agree with. Mojo's summary of the recent re-releases was "air-brushed heavy metal". Which is a bit harsh, but I can see where they're coming from (even for Palace Springs, which I love). At least they liked IITBOTFTBD. Maybe HW should push this side of things more? Dave. From adrian.brevard at EDS.COM Fri Sep 10 15:07:12 1999 From: adrian.brevard at EDS.COM (Brevard, Adrian R) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:07:12 -0400 Subject: OFF: C'ya folks Message-ID: Robin Harris once said "Gotta go, gotta go..." John be ever faithful to the FAQ updates... Theo stay on your medication dude... Ted A, hope all's well on the other side of the world... Al and tBS, good luck and keep those discs comming... Torgo, visit here every now and then... Crow, need more BOC subjects... the rest of you maniacs keep on space/stoner/acid/metal/classic rocking... L8er its been a blast Ghost in the Ruins From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Sep 10 16:24:36 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:24:36 -0700 Subject: New BOC-L Project - UK/US Currency conversion service. Message-ID: On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 19:47:34 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >This has been agreed between Doug Pearson (in the US) and myself (in the >UK). Note though that Doug is away for 3 weeks and so it may take a >little time to get things moving... Just acknowledging my participation as the other co-founder of The First Virtual Bank of Hawkwind. I'll be looking forward to sending out checks or money orders for people in the UK ordering stuff from the US, and receiving checks from people in the US ordering stuff from the UK. Like Mike said, I'll be away from my home and computer from monday sept 13 until approximately saturday oct 2, so I will be unable to fulfill requests during that time (see tour dates posted by Keith Henderson for more details). And yes, it will be really convenient for everyone if lots of US folks send me checks for their Hawkwind Mission Control CD's simultaneously so Mike can send Dave one cheque for the orders of several passport holders (and I can send Mike just one big cheque or IMO) ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Sep 10 16:13:47 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:13:47 -0700 Subject: OFF: CMJ/Tour dates (long) Message-ID: Just a few things to add to Keith's CMJ roundup and related subjects ... On Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:24:24 -0400, Keith Henderson wrote: >Daevid Allen's University of Errors Knitting Factory (Old Office) 9-17 Fri. >11:00pm I've unfortunately only seen one of their Bay Area shows, but this is definitely one of the best Gong spinoffs ever. It's definitely to the band's benefit to be backing as creative/talented/charismatic a guy as Daevid, and to his advantage to have the energy of musicians half his age pushing him on. And they're loads of fun to boot (as you'd expect from any Daevid Allen project!). Don't miss 'em if you can avoid it. >Pretty Things Maxwell's 9-17 Fri. 11:00pm I saw the Pretty Things last weekend in San Francisco - FANTASTIC! They play music from their entire career, from their original high-energy R&B configuration (and Phil May can still snarl as well now as when he was in his 20s) through the exquisite psychedelia of 'S.F. Sorrow' and 'Parachute' through their straight-ahead 70s rock through a couple good songs off of their newest album. And it's all good! One of the highlights of the performance, for me, was hearing Dick Taylor's psychedelic guitar leads (especially in the set-closing "L.S.D."->"Old Man Going" segment) - it really showed that this was the guy who produced (and played on) the first Hawkwind album. I had never really made the connection before, despite having listened to 'S.F. Sorrow' hundreds of times, but it was obvious that his playing must have been one of the bigger influences (along with Barrett/Gilmour) on Dave Brock's transition from acoustic blues guitarist to the blanga space rocker that we know and love him as. Too bad that both of these great shows are on the same night! I'm glad I don't have to try to make the decision (me, I'll be in Pittsburgh!). >Primordial Undermind w/Salamander and Overhang Party (Japan, with Michio Kurihara) > >Fri 9/17 Pittsburgh, PA - Stevenson Theater >Sat 9/18 Philadelphia, PA - Khyber Pass (Insidious Spectacle Fest) >www.maltlicker.com >Sun 9/19 New York, NY - WFMU (webcast at www.wfmu.org) - [not sure if this >is a CMJ show also?] Unfortunately, the WFMU broadcast is not 100% confirmed. It is however, most definitely NOT any relation whatsoever to the CMJ event. We have nothing to "showcase" to the "industry". BTW the new Primordial Undermind CD, 'Universe I've Got' is out and available at your more undergroundish music stores; of course, it will also be available from us at the shows (sorry for the commerical content!). We hit the road monday and will be gone for three weeks with no computer in tow (hooray!) so if anyone needs to get in touch with me, be sure to do so before then. Hope to see some of you at the shows ... come and say "hi" to the violinist with the big nose! -Doug ceres at sirius.com P.S. If there's anyone in Chicago who might have a place where we could crash out monday 9/27 after the show it would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! From flossbac at NLCI.COM Fri Sep 10 19:16:55 1999 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:16:55 -0500 Subject: OFF: CMJ/Tour dates (long) Message-ID: > One of the highlights of the > performance, for me, was hearing Dick Taylor's psychedelic guitar leads > (especially in the set-closing "L.S.D."->"Old Man Going" segment) - it > really showed that this was the guy who produced (and played on) the first > Hawkwind album. I had never really made the connection before, despite > having listened to 'S.F. Sorrow' hundreds of times, but it was obvious that > his playing must have been one of the bigger influences (along with > Barrett/Gilmour) on Dave Brock's transition from acoustic blues guitarist > to the blanga space rocker that we know and love him as. Although Dick Taylor produced the first Hawkwind LP, he didn't play a note on it. That's Huw Lloyd-Langton you hear wailing away on lead. I noticed in some of the magazine overviews that have cropped up recently surrounding the Epoch-Eclipse release, it has been mentioned that Taylor played guitar on the first album. One wonders how these journalistic mistakes get made. The problem is that once such a mistake appears in print, others will cite it as a reference source, and soon there's a sea of misinformation. John Majka flossbac at nlci.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Sep 10 23:15:30 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 23:15:30 EDT Subject: OFF: SDNC for 4 hours again Message-ID: Once again, SDNC will be airing from 5-9pm PST tomorrow night (Sat, 9/11), 88.3 fm KUCR so this is an invitation: Come and listen on WinAmp or Linux. Here are the instructions-- Instructions for listening to KUCR on the web. 1) Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to hear KUCR. http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your computer. After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program (Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the following http://www.kucr.org:8000 Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up, double click again to reconnect. Chuck's program is on the air at 7:00 pm Pacific Time. The US is currently on daylight savings time which makes us in California minus seven hours from UTC, GMT, Zulu or whatever they call the standard "universal" time in your country. When the time change comes here in the fall, we will be minus eight hours from UTC. Alternate instructions for Linux users: 1) download xmms from www.xmms.org ( redhat6 users can get the i386 RPM and install with rpm -ivh --nodeps xmms*rpm ) 2) install the program (compile it if you downloaded it in source form) 3) start xmms 4) press Ctrl-L and enter http://www.kucr.org:8000 From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Sep 11 01:26:31 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 01:26:31 EDT Subject: OFF: CMJ/Tour dates (long) Message-ID: In a message dated 9/10/99 7:19:54 PM, flossbac at NLCI.COM writes: << Although Dick Taylor produced the first Hawkwind LP, he didn't play a note>> ==== i dont think it's being suggested that taylor played any of the leads on that lp. but i also thought i'd read quite awhile ago that taylor does something on it. nothing major. as for brock's electric gtr style...nnnggghhh...while hawkwind got exceptional career mileage out of "interstellar overdrive" in general, i dont hear the floyd boys as much of a factor in brock's playing. i hear a stoned guy in front of a big amp going "chug-chug", as lemmy put it. and, as epitomized on "space ritual", that pentatonic-lead-through-the-wah-pedal-in-every-song routine portrayed him as singularly constricted as alvin lee, or even john lee hooker. dont get me wrong, i love that sound, always have, am displeased whenever he's cut back on guitar. but i try to be vigilant about this who-got-what-from-who stuff. for that matter, i'd say neil young was more relevant to his lead gtr playing than (grimace) david gilmour. or even cream-era clapton. or jorma k. and if you should stumble across fleetwood mac's "go your own way" on an oldies station, pay close attention to lindsey buckingham's break towards the end. it's brock all the way, but it's unlikely because of any direct influence. next week: THE INTERNAL LOGIC OF SELF-TAUGHT MUSICIANS.. "<>" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Sep 12 16:26:59 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:26:59 +0100 Subject: OFF: Masters of Reality / Karma to Burn In-Reply-To: <199909060812.JAA27901@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, bart wrote: > PS: I notice a big stack of the debut by Unida (John Garcia's new band) in > HMV. Any comments ? Not speaking on my own account here, since all my info is second-hand, but I believe this is not the debut - something with the name `Warren G' in the title was, and there's a split CD with Lowrider on Man's Ruin. Opinion on the stonerrock-list which I inhabit also states that these are a bit sub-par, haven't-got-a-sound-yet, just-John-Garcia's- backing-band kind of thing, but that the new one, `Coping With the Urban Coyote' is better than this and in fact good full-out fuzzed blues rock in a southern/desert style. Hope that helps, yours, Jon From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Sep 12 04:32:32 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 04:32:32 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Set-list Message-ID: "Space Does Not Care" 5-9 pm 9/11/99 (88.3 fm KUCR, Saturdays 7-9 or 5-9 or 8-11 pst ) 1.Mirza--Dream of the Fossil Sea (Anadromous) 2.Helios Creed--Frustration (Activated Condition) 3.The Brain--Box (Access and Amplify) 4.Magic Mushroom Band--Aravinda (The Spaced Collection) 5.Daniel Lanois--The Maker (Acadie) 6.Amon Duul II--Light (Carnival in Babylon CD) 7.Saddar Bazaar--Kiff Riff (Conference of the Birds) 8.The Orb--Plateau (Orbus Terrarum) 9.Hawkwind--The Right Stuff/Wastelands/The Dream Goes On (The Business Trip) 10.F/i--Space Station (Turn Century Turn comp.) 11.David Allen's University of Errors--Prince of Sidewalk Scooter (Money Doesn't Make It) 12.Roy Montgomery--In Our Own Time (And Now the Rain...) 13.Melting Euphoria--Field of Reeds (She Wants to Take Us Over the Edge of the World) 14.Tea Party--Sun Going Down (Summer Solis) 15.Farflung--Solar Electric/Open Your Mouth (25000 Ft. Per Second) 16.Capt. Beefheart and His Magic Band--Floppy Boot Stomp (Shiny Beast ) 17.Banco de Gaia--White Paint (Live at Glastonbury) 18.Zero Gravity--Stonehenge Revisited/NRG (Space Does Not Care) 19.Hawkwind--Lord of Light (Space Ritual) 20.Frank Zappa/Mothers--Son of Orange County (Roxy and Elsewhere) 21.Cream--Anyone for Tennis? (Strange Brew; the Very Best of Cream) 22.Pink Floyd--The Scarecrow (Piper at the Gates of Dawn) 23.Robert Calvert--The Work Song (Freq) 24.Nik Turner--Thoth (Sphynx) 25.Ozric Tentacles--Aumriff (Live Ethereal Cereal) 26.Escapade--Intoxicated by the Swirling Blue (Citrus Cloud Cover--thanks again to Mother West) 27.Helios Creed--Invitation (X-rated Fairy Tales) 28.Hawkwind--Uncle Sam's on Mars/Infinity (P.X.R.5) 29.Harmonia--Sehr Kosmisch (Musik von Harmonia, Space Box comp.) 30.Can--Gomorrha/Doko E (Unlimited Edition) 31.Architectural Metaphor--Brainticket (Odysseum Galacti) Thanks. Comments or questions welcome, Chuck From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Sep 12 05:22:36 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 10:22:36 +0100 Subject: HW: Badam 99 off again Message-ID: Just been to the Badam 99 website (www.badam99.freeserve.co.uk/) , the following statement has been posted: BADAM Restructuring BADAM '99 was established on the back of the success of BADAM '98 when we received the first outdoor Festival licence in the area for 24 years. One thousand attended a trouble free event and the basis was in place for this year. We intimated our intention at the end of BADAM '98 to hold a Festival for 5,000 at Great Low Farm on 31st July and 1st August 1999. The site was one the Police suggested to us and the date was 51 weeks later. Detail was in accordance with Home Office Literature but despite regular contact, meetings and correspondence, BADAM's application did not receive, when it mattered most, support we had enjoyed and anticipated from the Police. Subsequently we were refused a licence - conditional or otherwise 8 days prior to the Festival. The decision to go ahead and try and offer a replacement event in September was an attempt to instil some of the fun and belief from the original Festival. However, too many people wanted refunds - not enough people wanted an exchange - not enough people took up the new ticket offer. These and other variables conspired to prevent the reschedule from happening. It is our full intention to refund every ticket purchased. Monies are both owed and owing and we wish to tidy this situation up as quickly as possible. In the meantime - for every ticket sold, holders will be able to claim two complementary tickets for BADAM 2000. Announcements will not be made until an administrator examines our finances and options. Updates will be posted out on 30th September and 22nd October. We thank you for your continual support and understanding believing that, in spite of circumstances beyond your control, we can still give you something to smile about. From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Sat Sep 11 23:06:47 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:06:47 -0400 Subject: OFF: CMJ/Tour dates (long) In-Reply-To: ; from DASLUD@AOL.COM on Sat, Sep 11, 1999 at 01:26:31AM -0400 Message-ID: On Sat, Sep 11, 1999 at 01:26:31AM -0400, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: [...] > hear the floyd boys as much of a factor in brock's playing. i hear a stoned > guy in front of a big amp going "chug-chug", as lemmy put it. and, as > epitomized on "space ritual", that > pentatonic-lead-through-the-wah-pedal-in-every-song routine portrayed him as > singularly constricted as alvin lee, or even john lee hooker. > dont get me wrong, i love that sound, always have, am displeased whenever > he's cut back on guitar. Ain't it amazing? I'm exactly the same way. Intellectually, I know thet he's no leading light among guitar players. And yet I love that sound, and am always disappointed when he's going through one of those phases when he cuts it back in favor of playing more synths. What *is* it about that Brock guitar sound...? Few things in all of rock music make me so happy. :-) Steve swann at plutonia.com From brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Sep 11 11:06:51 1999 From: brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 16:06:51 +0100 Subject: BADAM Message-ID: Hello Seeing as it is less than a week to go I was wondering if anyone had heard anything about the current situation ie is it still on? are Hawkwind definitely playing? and other minor details like that. I have sent my tickets for exchange but so far no news Hopefully Brian From greatsunjester at YAHOO.COM Sun Sep 12 20:24:34 1999 From: greatsunjester at YAHOO.COM (Darnell Buffington) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 17:24:34 -0700 Subject: OFF: C'ya folks Message-ID: --- "Brevard, Adrian R" wrote: > Robin Harris once said "Gotta go, gotta go..." <<<<<<>>> Always enjoyed reading your posts. Wherever you're going, have a good trip and have a cup of coffee on me. GSJ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From tclark at PETRONET.NET Sun Sep 12 22:20:22 1999 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:20:22 -0500 Subject: OFF: CMJ/Tour dates (long) Message-ID: Style over substance....must be...Yngwe Malsteem, for example, has the style...very fast and consice... pretty jammy at times,...but not much soul, ey? Brock's playing seems to be made to be listended to whilst stoned, and it fits...even while not listenting to it stoned..... > On Sat, Sep 11, 1999 at 01:26:31AM -0400, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > [...] > > hear the floyd boys as much of a factor in brock's playing. i hear a stoned > > guy in front of a big amp going "chug-chug", as lemmy put it. and, as > > epitomized on "space ritual", that > > pentatonic-lead-through-the-wah-pedal-in-every-song routine portrayed him as > > singularly constricted as alvin lee, or even john lee hooker. > > dont get me wrong, i love that sound, always have, am displeased whenever > > he's cut back on guitar. > > Ain't it amazing? I'm exactly the same way. Intellectually, I know > thet he's no leading light among guitar players. And yet I love that > sound, and am always disappointed when he's going through one of > those phases when he cuts it back in favor of playing more synths. > > What *is* it about that Brock guitar sound...? Few things in all of > rock music make me so happy. :-) > > Steve > swann at plutonia.com From eggfoolejung at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Sep 11 11:11:16 1999 From: eggfoolejung at HOTMAIL.COM (Suicide Victory) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 08:11:16 PDT Subject: Hawkwind Radio Special Message-ID: Hey folks, Here's the playlist from last nite of the first part of (hopefully) two 6 hour Hawkwind radio specials. The show was from 12 AM to 6 AM. Forgot to bring the Friday Rock Show Sessions disc for the rockin version of Magnu/Angels of Death, though I'll be squeezing that and more recent HW material plust live and solo material in the next installment: Uh?rt/RadiOrakel FM 99,3 Oslo, 10/9/99: 1999 Party Intro Mighty Hawkwind Classics Hurry On Sundown Mighty Hawkwind Classics Sweet Mistress of Pain Stasis - The U.A. Years You Shouldn't Do That Masters of The Universe Master of The Universe Space Rock From London Silver Machine/Welcome To The Future Stasis - The U.A. Years Seven By Seven Stasis - The U.A. Years Space Is Deep Masters of The Universe Sonic Attack Hall of The Mountain Grill Psychedelic Warlords (DiS) Hall of The Mountain Grill D-Rider Hall of The Mountain Grill Web Weaver 1999 Party You'd Better Believe It 1999 Party You Know You're Only Dreaming 1999 Party Brainbox Pollution Warrior on The Edge of Time Opa-Loka Warrior on The Edge of Time The Demented Man Warrior on The Edge of Time Spiral Galaxy 28948 Warrior on The Edge of Time Kings of Speed Warrior on The Edge of Time Motorhead Astounding Sounds, Amazing.. Kerb Crawler Astounding Sounds, Amazing.. The Aubergine That Ate Rangoon Astounding Sounds, Amazing.. Kadu Flyer Astounding Sounds, Amazing.. Steppenwolf Atomhenge '76 Uncle Sam's On Mars Quark, Strangeness & Charm Spirit of The Age Quark, Strangeness & Charm Days of The Underground Quark, Strangeness & Charm The Iron Dream PXR5 Jack of Shadows PXR5 Infinity PXR5 Robot PXR5 High Rise Hawklords Live 25 Years 25 Years On Free Fall 25 Years On The Age of The Micro Man Silver Machine Shot Down In The Night (live) Silver Machine Levitation Silver Machine Motorway City Silver Machine Urban Guerilla (live) Silver Machine Nuclear Toy Sonic Attack Rocky Paths Sonic Attack Psychosonia Sonic Attack Living on A Knife Edge Sonic Attack Trans-Dimensional Man Choose Your Masques Arrival In Utopia Choose Your Masques Fahrenheit 451 Zones Running Through The Back Brain Undisclosed Files Addendum Coded Languages Undisclosed Files Addendum Damned By The Curse of Man This Is Hawkwind, Do Not... PSY Power This Is Hawkwind, Do Not... Watching The Grass Grow Mighty Hawkwind Classics Night Of The Hawks Chronicle of The Black Sword Assault & Battery (live) Chronicle of The Black Sword Sleep of A Thousand Tears (live)Chronicle of The Black Sword Shade Gate Chronicle of The Black Sword Needle Gun Out & Intake Cajun Jinx The Xenon Codex Heads The Xenon Codex E.M.C. The Xenon Codex Good Evening Palace Springs Damnation Alley California Brainstorm Ejection California Brainstorm Brainstorm Brainstorm got abit snipped, something I hope to rectify if I get the TAT version in time! -Chr. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Sat Sep 11 09:56:47 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 14:56:47 +0100 Subject: HW: Guardian review In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990910160150.00953730@pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 16:30 10/09/99 , Dave Berry wrote: >At 12:38 06/09/99 , chris bates wrote: >>I think EMI are doing a great job of promoting epoch-eclipse. > >I agree. It occurred to me after I posted this that we don't actually know who is responsible for all this PR we're seeing. After all, the re-releases are getting publicity too, and I assume they're on EBS, not EMI? Anyway, whoever's doing it is doing a grand job. Dave. From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 10 15:42:39 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 20:42:39 +0100 Subject: Krel/Spacehead query Message-ID: Mention of Mr. Dibs, and playing Krel's excellent "Ad Astra", reminds to ask the assembled experts for some background info. Am I right to believe that Mr. Dibs used to be in Krel? Presumably with the "Martin" who played everything on "Ad Astra"? Were there other regular members? Did any recordings make it to CD? Why did they split? Spacehead have two albums out, yes? The debut, the name of which I forget, and "In Space We Trust ... Live 95-98"? And the BOC-L recommendation is for the latter? Is it still available? What question should I have asked, but haven't? Dave. From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Mon Sep 13 04:15:39 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:15:39 +0100 Subject: OFF: Masters of Reality / Karma to Burn In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:26:59 BST." Message-ID: > On Mon, 6 Sep 1999, bart wrote: > > > PS: I notice a big stack of the debut by Unida (John Garcia's new band) in > > HMV. Any comments ? > > Not speaking on my own account here, since all my info is > second-hand, but I believe this is not the debut - something with the name > `Warren G' in the title was, and there's a split CD with Lowrider on Man's > Ruin. Opinion on the stonerrock-list which I inhabit also states that > these are a bit sub-par, haven't-got-a-sound-yet, just-John-Garcia's- > backing-band kind of thing, but that the new one, `Coping With the Urban > Coyote' is better than this and in fact good full-out fuzzed blues rock in > a southern/desert style. Oh, I was talking about 'Coping...'. Kerrang seemed to dig it. BTW, Masters of Reality put on another great show saturday. The somewhat intimately sized Borderline was pretty full - hard not to be I guess! First up were We from Norway, who put on a pretty good show (point docked for excesisve tambourine use). Then they gave way to the Big Man Chris Goss & MoR who proceeded to rock as mightily as they did last time around. Set was something like Theme for the Scientist.../It's Shit/Moriath/Great Spelunker/Kill the King/Take a shot at the Clown/Blue Garden/Alder Smoke Blues/Domino/ Doraldina's Prophecies (yeah!)/She Got Me/100 Years/John Brown/ Ants in the Kitchen/Goin Down Blue Garden & Alder Smoke Blues ruled, and as usual the songs which come over as being light in the studio really benefit from the live setup. Great to hear Doraldina's Prophecies too. Tim From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Mon Sep 13 09:23:47 1999 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:23:47 +0200 Subject: OFF: Hello & GONG Message-ID: Hello, I've recently signed on to this list and after some lurking I want to say hello to everybody. I'm 21, live in Munich and I'm a student (Aerospace Engineering). Fav HW-Album: Space Ritual Other Fav Bands: Gong, Ozric Tentacles & ADII That's all for now D-R BTW, Gong will be playing some gigs in October: 15th (Fri) Glastonbury 16th (Sat) Southampton 18th (Mon) Leverkusen (Jazz-Tage) 20th (Wed) Nancy (Jazz Festival) Line-up so far: Daevid Allen, Gilli Smyth, Mike Howlett, Theo Travis & Chris Taylor -- "Nothing is true - everything is permissible" Hassan I Sabbah From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Sep 13 10:32:33 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:32:33 EDT Subject: HW: on brock's guitarisms (formerly CMJ, etc) Message-ID: In a message dated 9/12/99 9:22:31 PM, swann at PLUTONIA.COM writes in regards to dave brock's lead guitar: << Ain't it amazing? I'm exactly the same way. Intellectually, I know thet he's no leading light among guitar players. And yet I love that sound, and am always disappointed when he's going through one of those phases when he cuts it back in favor of playing more synths. What *is* it about that Brock guitar sound...? Few things in all of rock music make me so happy. :-) >> ======= i think there's something "primal", even "archtypical" about it...at least as it had been defined on "space ritual". maybe "primal" isnt the right word, hmmm... but he's chasing something in his head, perhaps of a sort intrinsic to everyone, musician or non-musician, only the musicians would have their "musician's attitude" hat on and the non-musicians lack the means or reason to bring it out. i've continued to like his lead playing all along, it's just that there has been less of it as time moves on. his style hasnt changed so much as he's broken it up now; he's not always racing against, or with, the rhythm section as he did/was obliged to do in the "space ritual" era. you reading this, mr brock, sir? (grin) "<>" From chip at PCC.COM Mon Sep 13 11:07:07 1999 From: chip at PCC.COM (Chip Hart) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:07:07 -0400 Subject: Brain Surgeons Update In-Reply-To: <9cf56098.250e6501@aol.com> from "DASLUD@AOL.COM" at Sep 13, 99 10:32:33 am Message-ID: I had the fortune to get a listen to the new DOUBLE CD from the Brain Surgeons about 2 weeks ago. There are so many songs, it's hard to categorize the release (some heavy, some crooning, some funny, some serious), but I think anyone who enjoyed, say, _Box of Hammers_ will be quite happy. In any event, they had planned to be ready for the release, but the pressing plany apparently screwed up (forgot to label them as "DOUBLE DISK SETS" or something like that). Deb asked me to let people know. In the meantime, I've been trying to convince them to release a track or two on MP3 for all of us! -- Chip Hart * chip @ pcc.com Physicians's Computer Company * http://www.pcc.com/~chip 1 Main Street * Work:800-722-7708 Winooski, VT 05404 * Fax: 802-846-8178 From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Mon Sep 13 12:00:01 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:00:01 -0400 Subject: Brain Surgeons Update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 11:07 AM 9/13/99 -0400, you wrote: > > I had the fortune to get a listen to the new DOUBLE CD from the > Brain Surgeons about 2 weeks ago. There are so many songs, it's > hard to categorize the release (some heavy, some crooning, some > funny, some serious), but I think anyone who enjoyed, say, _Box > of Hammers_ will be quite happy. Pardon me while i go through a short stint of envy and excessive drool. (turn green, now not green). Otherwise I'm glad to hear it's enjoyable Muchos gracias for the update, but more importantly is Billy's health doing OK? I wish I still had my family's AOL to check tBS board. Last I heard, David Roter Method is recording new material. (It would be cool to get "NY,NY" in disc form fer sure) Murmuring in the background it will be time, Jason PS: Now that I've typed it, those lines when sung by E.Bloom on ETL sounded like "it's movie time!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Mon Sep 13 11:54:15 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 11:54:15 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Brain Surgeons Update In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990913120001.0068d860@mail1.wizvax.net> Message-ID: Jason wrote: >PS: Now that I've typed it, those lines when sung by E.Bloom on ETL >sounded like "it's movie time!" Must be Bloom was a psychic MST3K fan back in '82. OB other misheard lyric> "It's whoopie time!" From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Sep 13 12:45:55 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 17:45:55 +0100 Subject: HW: Guardian review Message-ID: Dave Berry writes: >It occurred to me after I posted this that we don't actually know who is >responsible for all this PR we're seeing. After all, the re-releases are >getting publicity too, and I assume they're on EBS, not EMI? > >Anyway, whoever's doing it is doing a grand job. > >Dave. I got an email frm one Lucy Jordache of EMI a couple of months back regarding the Epoch-Eclipse comp (someone else posted it to the list) and hinting at a possible bash at Brixton. Nick From chip at PCC.COM Mon Sep 13 12:51:36 1999 From: chip at PCC.COM (Chip Hart) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:51:36 -0400 Subject: Brain Surgeons Update In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990913120001.0068d860@mail1.wizvax.net> from "Bolts of Ungodly Vision" at Sep 13, 99 12:00:01 pm Message-ID: Bolts of Ungodly Vision spoke: > Pardon me while i go through a short stint of envy and excessive drool. > (turn green, now not green). Otherwise I'm glad to hear it's enjoyable I wish I could give more details, but I don't remember any of the song titles at this point. More info: - There are a number of "Billy" tracks and "Pete" tracks. - Al should post some information about how Billy's health affected the music they made. For example, Billy used a different guitar on one track and it changes the song as a result. - There is quite a mix of musicians from track to track (i.e., on this song, it's Al and Deb on rhythm, Deb playing a slide lead, and one of Pete's solos). I've tried to convince Deb+Al that they need to put that information in the CD booklet, because WE CARE. Deb doesn't like it, apparently, but in an effort to make her a "real guitarist" :-), Al might do it this time. -- Chip Hart * chip @ pcc.com Physicians's Computer Company * http://www.pcc.com/~chip 1 Main Street * Work:800-722-7708 Winooski, VT 05404 * Fax: 802-846-8178 From Mariej at BIGWIG.NET Mon Sep 13 16:01:40 1999 From: Mariej at BIGWIG.NET (Marie Jenkinson) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:01:40 +0100 Subject: Krel/Spacehead query Message-ID: Hi all, Yes Dibs was bass player in Krel - along with Martin M, Radar Dave, Mike Man and Gibbo amongst others No recording made it to CD but there were three main recording on cassette - two of which were Who's Next On This and DarkStar - can't remember the third one off hand. The band spilt because of 'internal and external difficulties'. Krel now consists of Martin M, Mike Man and another guy who we don't know the name of. The first Spacehead album on CD was Of Stars and Time (EBSCD 121) and In Space we Trust (DERNCD) Both should be available from CD Services http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/andygee/cds.htm In Space We Trust is still almost certainly still available and is reviewed on the website - there should be a few copies of the first CD avaiable also. The question you should have asked is what is Spacehead doing right now. And the answer - They are currently working on some new material but have a couple of gigs lined up. There is a free gig on Saturday in Buxton in the afternoon at 1PM. There is also a gig in Coventry on October 8th - can't remember where but I'll find out if anyone is interested. Also maybe a gig at the Head of Steam in Huddersfield on September 28th. Hope that answers your questions. Cheers Marie > Mention of Mr. Dibs, and playing Krel's excellent "Ad Astra", reminds to > ask the assembled experts for some background info. Am I right to believe > that Mr. Dibs used to be in Krel? >Presumably with the "Martin" who played > everything on "Ad Astra"? Were there other regular members? Did any > recordings make it to CD? Why did they split? > > Spacehead have two albums out, yes? The debut, the name of which I forget, > and "In Space We Trust ... Live 95-98"? And the BOC-L recommendation is > for the latter? Is it still available? > > What question should I have asked, but haven't? > > Dave.. From hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM Mon Sep 13 19:39:08 1999 From: hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM (Randy) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 18:39:08 -0500 Subject: OFF: Hello & GONG In-Reply-To: <37DCFAE3.64E07799@unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: Denis wrote: >Hello, > >I've recently signed on to this list and after some lurking I want to >say hello to everybody. Hello Denis Welcome To the list. Randy From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Sep 13 18:32:51 1999 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:32:51 +0100 Subject: UFO and Tubilah Dog Message-ID: Does anyone remember Tubilah Dog supporting HW (1988?)? They did a stomping cover of the UFO theme tune whilst scenes from the series were projected onto the backdrop. Does anyone have a tape of this? Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Sep 14 01:35:45 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 01:35:45 EDT Subject: OFF/HW: Space Rock All-Stars CD! fwd from D. Falcone Message-ID: A press release of my newest project is included below. Best Regards, DF ________________________________________________________________________ _______ > PRESS RELEASE -- Spirits Burning "New Worlds By Design" Coming To > Gazul > In Sept/Oct 1999. > > Spirits Burning "New Worlds By Design" features over 70 minutes of > music celebrating all things space. > Spirits Burning is a Gathering in Space . . . organized by Don Falcone (Spaceship Eyes). Includes performances from Daevid Allen (Gong, original Soft Machine), Thomas Gre?as (Pressurehed), Malcolm Mooney (original Can), Steve Wilson (Porcupine Tree), plus members of Anubian Lights, DarXtar, Melting Euphoria, NemesiS, Pressurehed, Quarkspace, SubArachnoid Space and more . . . > Gazul, a sublabel of France's Musea Records, plans on releasing this > CD in Sept/Oct of 1999. For more info, contact Don Falcone (dfalcone at orban.com) From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Tue Sep 14 03:11:24 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:11:24 +0000 Subject: Trepanation Message-ID: There was some discussion not too long ago about Trepanation (The procedure, not the tBS album). It has come to my attention that there's a new documentary film out about Trepanation. It's called, quite fittingly, "A Hole in the Head". It's out on video from Mad Dog Films, directed by Eli Kabillio. The flick serves up a history of Trepanation, along with some "stomach-turning footage" of trepanation being performed. There are also some interviews with modern-day advocates of the procedure, one of whom is a former college professor of Bill Clinton's. Just thought some of you might be interested. Plus I haven't posted anything in forever. -- Nick From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Sep 14 07:28:46 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:28:46 EDT Subject: Trepanation/trickeration Message-ID: In a message dated 9/14/99 7:10:40 AM, nick at THECAMPUS.COM writes: << There was some discussion not too long ago about Trepanation (The procedure, not the tBS album). >> ========== was there such a discussion? i dont recall. now aint that a hole in the head ^_~ really, i'll have to go look up that word 'coz i got no idea "<>" From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Tue Sep 14 03:49:23 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:49:23 +0000 Subject: Trepanation/trickeration Message-ID: > << There was some discussion not too long ago about Trepanation (The > procedure, not the tBS album). > >> > ========== > was there such a discussion? i dont recall. > now aint that a hole in the head ^_~ Maybe it wasn't quite as recent as I remember, but I know it happened, cuz I didn't know what Trepanation meant until I read about it here! -- Nick From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Tue Sep 14 07:49:46 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:49:46 +1000 Subject: HW/OFF: HLL Web Site Message-ID: Howdy folks, Just got a mail from Marion Lloyd-Langton ... Huw now has his own website at http://www.huwlloyd-langton.co.uk/, a new CD - 'CHAIN REACTION', and tour dates (on the site) for November S. -- sonique at sonique.net From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Sep 14 08:00:05 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:00:05 EDT Subject: Trepanation/trickeration Message-ID: In a message dated 9/14/99 7:48:42 AM, nick at THECAMPUS.COM writes: << << There was some discussion not too long ago about Trepanation (The > procedure, not the tBS album). > >> > ========== > was there such a discussion? i dont recall. > now aint that a hole in the head ^_~ Maybe it wasn't quite as recent as I remember, but I know it happened, cuz I didn't know what Trepanation meant until I read about it here! -- Nick ======= OH MY GUH-HAWD... this has all taken place in about ==what, 10 minutes?== and i went and looked up what 'trepanation' was.... no. no. forget it. gimme an orgone accumulator any ol' time or some crystals or yohimbe root or a pyramid-shaped hat or fasting in a cave or-or-nnnggghhh.... but i aint drillin no holes in my head. that was how they treated what we now call mentally ill people way, way back. drilling a hole in the head so that the demons could fly out. well, my demons pay the rent on time and as long as they dont play their stereo too late at night they can stay. "<>" From asg at LAGUNA.COM.MX Tue Sep 14 02:04:47 1999 From: asg at LAGUNA.COM.MX (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 07:04:47 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: Trepanation/trickeration Message-ID: >> << There was some discussion not too long ago about Trepanation (The >> procedure, not the tBS album). >> >> >> ========== >> was there such a discussion? i dont recall. >> now aint that a hole in the head ^_~ > >Maybe it wasn't quite as recent as I remember, but I know it >happened, cuz I didn't know what Trepanation meant until I read about >it here! Man, that was like ages ago *laughs* I think it happened not too long after I joined the list - which was in 96 - or was it 97 ? Anyway. Been a while :-) Or did the thread reappear more recently ? I must say, I haven't been paying much attention to the list lately... too much going on. Anyway. Oh, and I hadn't posted on here in a long time either. Alex S. Garcia. *switches back to lurking mode* --------------------------------------------------- Read the Icarus Encyclopedia of Fantasy & SF - http://www.noosfere.com/ (in French) - http://www.noosfere.com/icarus/homepage.htm (in English) Music videos : members.xoom.com/agarc/mvdb/ My Web HQ : members.tripod.com/~Mandor/ --------------------------------------------------- From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Sep 14 08:53:36 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:53:36 -0400 Subject: Trepanation/trickeration Message-ID: >OH MY GUH-HAWD... >this has all taken place in about ==what, 10 minutes?== and i went and >looked up what 'trepanation' was.... > >no. no. forget it. >gimme an orgone accumulator any ol' time >or some crystals >or yohimbe root >or a pyramid-shaped hat >or fasting in a cave >or-or-nnnggghhh.... TOOO LAATTEEE !!!! reposting the primary culprit Trepanation Explanation message: OBAside: There actually used to be a mailing list similar to this one, called TREPAN-D, at Brown University! --- Forwarded mail from Linda Branagan This is only for the *truly* sick. I don't suggest reading it immediately before a meal. --Linda --- Forwarded mail from Keith Bostic To: /dev/null at python.bostic.com >>From _Eccentric Lives & Peculiar Notions_ by John Michell. THE PEOPLE WITH HOLES IN THEIR HEADS Amanda Feilding lives in a charming flat looking over London's river with her companion, Joey Mellen, and their infant son, Rock. She is a successful painter, and she and Joey have an art gallery in a fashionable street of the King's Road. Another of her talents is for politics. At the last two General Elections she stood for Parliament in Chelsea, more than doubling her vote on the second occasion from 49 to 139. It does not sound much, but the cause for which she stands is unfamiliar and lacks obvious appeal. Feilding and her voters demand that trepanning operations be made freely available on the National Health. Trepanation means cutting a hole in your skull. The founder of the trepanation movement is a Dutch savant, Dr Bart Hughes. In 1962 he made a discovery which his followers proclaim as the most significant in modern times. One's state and degree of consciousness, he realized, are related to the volume of blood in the brain. According to his theory of evolution, the adoption of an upright stance brought certain benefits to the human race, but it caused the flow of blood through the head to be limited by gravity, thus reducing the range of human consciousness. Certain parts of the brain ceased or reduced their functions while others, particularly those parts relating to speech and reasoning, became emphasized in compensation. One can redress the balance by a number of methods, such as standing on one's head, jumping from a hot bath into a cold one, or the use of drugs; but the wider consciousness thus obtained is only temporary. Bart Hughes shared the common goal of mystics and poets in all ages: he wanted to achieve permanently the higher level of vision, which he associated with an increased volume of blood in the capillaries of the brain. The higher state of mind he sought was that of childhood. Babies are born with skulls unsealed, and it is not until one is an adult that the bony carapace is formed which completely encloses the membranes surrounding the brain and inhibits their pulsations in repsonse to heart-beats. In consequence, the adult loses touch with the dreams, imagination and intense perceptions of the child. His mental balance becomes upset by egoism and neuroses. To cure these problems, first in himself and then for the whole world, Dr Huges returned his cranium to something like the condition of infancy by cutting out a small disc of bone with an electric drill. Experiencing immediate beneficial effects from this operation, he began preaching to anyone who would listen to the doctrine of trepanation. By liberating his brain from its total imprisonment in his skull, he claimed to have restored its pulsations, increased the volume of blood in it and acquired a more complete, satisfying state of consciousness than grown-up people normally enjoy. The medical and legal authorities reacted to Huges's discovery with horror and rewarded him with a spell in a Dutch lunatic asylum. Joseph Mellen met Bart Huges in 1965 in Ibiza and quickly became his leading, or rather one and only, disciple. Years later he wrote a book called _Bore Hole_, the contents of which are summarized in its opening sentence: 'This is the story of how I came to drill a hole in my skull to get permanently high.' . . . (a few paragraphs detail Joseph Mellen's early experiments with LSD, and how he finds out about Bart Huges.) The time came when Joey felt he had preached enough and that he now had to act. He did not agree with Holingshead that the third eye was merely a figure of speech, believing in its physical attainment through self-trepanation. Support for this can be found in archaeology. Skulls of ancient people all over the world give evidence that their owners were skillfully trepanned during their lifetimes, and many of these appear to have been of noble or priestly castes. The medical practice of trepanation was continued up to the present century in treatment of madness, the hole in the skull being seen as a way of relieving pressure on the brain or letting out the devils that possessed it. By his scientific explanation of the reasons for the operation, Bart Huges had removed it from the area of superstition, and Joey Mellen proposed to be the second person to perform it on himself in the interest of enlightenment. Bart had become a close friend of Amanda Feilding, and they went off to Amsterdam together while Joey took care of Amanda's flat. This was the opportunity he had been waiting for to bore a hole in his head. The most gripping passages in _Bore Hole_ describe his various attempts to complete the operation. They are also extremely gruesome, and those who lack medical curiosity would do well to read no further. Yet to those who might contemplate trepanation for and by themselves, Joey's experiences are a salutary warning. It should be empahasized that neither he, Bart nor Amanda has ever recommended people to follow their example by performing their own operations. For years they have been looking for doctors who would understand their theories and would agree to trepan volunteer patients as a form of therapy. Strangely enough, not one member of the medical profession has been converted. In a surgical store Joey found a trepan instrument, a kind of auger or cork- screw designed to be worked by hand. It was much cheaper and, Joey felt, more sensitive than an electric drill. Its main feature was a metal spike, surrounded by a ring of saw-teeth. The spike was meant to be driven into the skull, holding the trepan steady until the revolving saw made a groove, after which it could be retracted. If all went well, the saw-band should remove a disc of bone and expose the brain. Joey's first attempt at self-trepanation was a fiasco. He had no previous medical experience, and the needles he had bought for administering a local anaesthetic to the crown of his head proved to be too thin and crumpled up or broke. Next day he obtained some stouter needles, took a tab of LSD to steady his nerves and set to in earnest. First he made an incision to the bone, and then applied the trepan to his bared skull. But the first part of the operation, driving the spike into the bone, was impossible to accomplish. Joey described it as like trying to uncork a bottle from the inside. He realized he needed help and telephoned Bart in Amsterdam, who promised he would come over and assist at the next operation. This plan was frustrated by the Home Office, which listed Dr Huges as an undesirable visitor to Britain and barred his entry. Amanda agreed to take his place. Soon after her return to London she helped Joey re-open the wound in his head and, by pressing the trepan with all her might against his skull, managed to get the spike to take hold and the saw- teeth to bite. Joey then took over at cranking the saw. Once again he had swallowed some LSD. After a long period of sawing, just as he was about to break through, he suddenly fainted. Amanda called an ambulance and he was taken to hospital, where horrified doctors told him that he was lucky to be alive and that if he had drilled a fraction of an inch further he would have killed himself. The psychiatrists took a particular interest in his case, and a group of them arranged to examine him. Before this could be done, he had to appear in court on a charge of possessing a small amount of cannabis. The magistrate demanded another psychiatrist's report and demanded him for a week in prison. There followed a period of embarrassment as the rumour went round London that Joey Mellen had trepanned himself, whereas in fact he had failed to do so. As soon as possible, therefore, he prepared for a third attempt. Proceeding as before, but now with the benefit of experience, he soon found the groove from the previous operation and began to saw through the sliver of bone separating him from enlightenment or, as the doctors had predicted, instant death. What followed is best quoted from _Bore Hole_. 'After some time there was an ominous sounding schlurp and the sound of bubbling. I drew the trepan out and the gurgling continued. It sounded like air bubbles running under the skull as they were pressed out. I looked at the trepan and there was a bit of bone in it. At last! On closer inspection I saw that the disc of bone was much deeper on one side than on the other. Obviously the trepan had not been straight and had gone through at one point only, then the piece of bone had snapped off and come out. I was reluctant to start drilling again for fear of damaging the brain membranes with the deeper part while I was cutting through the rest or of breaking off a splinter. If only I had an electric drill it would have been so much simpler. Amanda was sure I was through. There seemed no other explanation for the schlurping noises I decided to call it a day. At the time I thought that any hole would do, no matter what size. I bandaged up my head and cleared away the mess.' There was still doubt in his mind as to whether he had really broken through and, if so, whether the hole was big enough to restore pulsation to his brain. The operation had left him with a feeling of wellbeing, but he realized that it could simply be from relief at having ended it. To put the matter beyond doubt, he decided to bore another hole at a new spot just above the hairline, this time using an electric drill. In the spring of 1970, Amanda was in America and Joey did the operation alone. He applied the drill to his forehead, but after half and hour's work the electric cable burnt out. Once again he was frustrated. An engineer in the flat below him was able to repair the instrument and next day he set out to finish the job. 'This time I was not in any doubt. The drill head went at least an inch deep through the hole. A great gush of blood followed my withdrawal of the drill. In the mirror I could see the blood in the hole rising and falling with the pulsation of the brain.' The result was all he had hoped for. During the next four hours he felt his spirits rising higher until he reached a state of freedom and serenity which he claims, has been with him ever since. For some time now he had been sharing a flat with Amanda, and when she came back from America she immediately noticed the change in him. This encouraged her to join him on the mental plane by doing her own trepanation. The operation was carefully recorded. She had obtained a cine-camera, and Joey stood by, filming, as she attacked her head with an electric drill. The film shows her carefully at work, dressed in a blood-spattered white robe. She shaves her head, makes an incision in her head with a scalpel and calmly starts drilling. Blood spurts as she penetrates the skull. She lays aside the drill and with a triumphant smile advances towards Joey and the camera. Ever since, Joey and amanda have lived and worked together in harmony. >>From the business of buying old prints to colour and resell, they have progressed to ownership of the Pigeonhole Gallery and seem reasonably prosperous. They have also started a family. There is nothing apparently abnormal about them, and many of their old friends agree in finding them even more pleasant and contented since their operations. There is plenty of leisure in their lives, mingled with the kind of activities they most enjoy. These of course include talking and writing about trepanation. They have lectured widely in Europe and America to groups of doctors and other interested people, showing the film of Amanda's self-operation, entitled _Heartbeat in the Brain_. It is generally received with awe, the sight of blood often causing people to faint. At one showing in London a film critic described the audience 'dropping off their seats one by one like ripe plums'. Yet it was not designed to be gruesome. The soundtrack is of soothing music, and the surgical scenes alternate with some delightful motion studies of Amanda's pet pigeon, Birdie, as a symbol of peace and wisdom." "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From clemens at TRAIL.COM Tue Sep 14 15:21:26 1999 From: clemens at TRAIL.COM (Clemens & Associates) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 13:21:26 -0600 Subject: Fw: HAWKWIND EMI press release Message-ID: I received this today. Anybody have info on track 15? another Mark L. ----- Original Message ----- From: lucy jordache To: ; ; ; ; ; ; Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 9:35 AM Subject: HAWKWIND > > OUT NOW ON EMI RECORDS THE ULTIMATE HAWKWIND COLLECTIONS. > > Single CD Ultimate Best Of: > EPOCH-ECLIPSE > > 1/ Silver Machine > 2/ Master Of The Universe > 3/ Urban Guerilla > 4/ Sonic Attack > 5/ Psychedelic Warlords (Single Edit) > 6/ Assault & Battery > 7/ Motorhead > 8/ Back On The Streets > 9/ Quark Strangeness And Charm > 10/25 Years > 11/Motorway City > 12/Angels Of Death (Single Edit) > 13/Night Of The Hawks > 14/Needle Gun > 16/Right To Decide (Radio Edit Mix) > 17/Alien I Am (Roswell Edit) > 18/Love In Space (Single Mix) > 19/Silver Machine Infected By the Scourge Of The Earth (Radio Edit) > > The previously unreleased and never heard track 15 on this CD remains > so and does not appear on any tracklistings. The identity of this > track will remain a mystery for the time being. The reports that > playing the CD backwards will reveal it, remain unconfirmed. > > > 30 YEAR ANTHOLOGY: > EPOCH-ECLIPSE > > CD 1: > > 1/ Hurry On Sundown (1969) > 2/ Paranoia (Part 2) (1970) > 3/ Master Of the Universe (1971) > 4/ Children Of The Sun (1971) > 5/ Silver Machine (1972) > 6/ Seven By Seven (1972) > 7/ Brainstorm (1972) > 8/ Space Is Deep (1972) > 9/ Urban Guerilla (1973) > 10/Brainbox Pollution (1973) > 11/Sonic Attack (1973) > 12/Orgone Accumulator (1973) > 13/Lost Johnny (1974) > 14/Psychedelic Warlords (single edit) (1974) > > > CD 2: > 1/ Motorhead (1974) > 2/ Assault And Battery (Part 1) (1975) > 3/ Golden Void (Part 2) (1975) > 4/ Magnu (1975) > 5/ Kerb Crawler (1976) > 6/ Steppenwolf (1976) > 7/ Back On The Streets (1977) > 8/ Quark Strangeness & Charm (1977) > 9/ Hassan I Shaba (1977) > 10/Spirit Of The Age (1977) > 11/Psi Power (1978) > 12/25 Years (1978) > 13/High Rise (1979) > 14/Death Trap (1979) > 15/Uncle Sams On Mars (1979) > > > CD 3: > > 1/ Shot Down In The Night (Live)(Edit) (1979) > 2/ Motorway City (1980) > 3/ Levitation (1980) > 4/ Angels Of Death (1981) > 5/ Coded Languages (1981) > 6/ Some People Never Die (1982) > 7/ Choose Your Masques (1982) > 8/ Night Of The Hawks (1984) > 9/ Needle Gun (1985) > 10/The War I Survived (1988) > 11/Black Elk Speaks (1990) > 12/Right To Decide (1992) > 13/Sputnik Stan (1995) > 14/Love In Space (1997) > 15/Silver Machine (Infected by the Scourage Of The Earth) (Full > Version) > > REPORTS OF REUNION GIGS REMAIN UNCONFIRMED AT THE TIME THIS E-MAIL WAS > SENT. > > > From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Tue Sep 14 16:54:30 1999 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 15:54:30 -0500 Subject: HW: HAWKWIND EMI press release Message-ID: > > REPORTS OF REUNION GIGS REMAIN UNCONFIRMED AT THE TIME THIS E-MAIL > WAS > > SENT. > > > > > > > Probably because they won't happen. Nik has been quoted that he is not involved. Lemmy starts touring with Motorhead in a few weeks. When I think of a reunion I think about at least one of these guys in the band. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Sep 14 18:11:33 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 23:11:33 +0100 Subject: Krel/Spacehead query In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990910203706.00a1ae90@pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Dave Berry wrote: > Mention of Mr. Dibs, and playing Krel's excellent "Ad Astra", reminds to > ask the assembled experts for some background info. Am I right to believe > that Mr. Dibs used to be in Krel? Presumably with the "Martin" who played > everything on "Ad Astra"? Were there other regular members? Did any > recordings make it to CD? Why did they split? The Psychedelic Archive at (I'm afraid I can't get at the full URL just now can probably answer this if no-one else can... > Spacehead have two albums out, yes? The debut, the name of which I forget, > and "In Space We Trust ... Live 95-98"? And the BOC-L recommendation is > for the latter? Is it still available? I have the first, _Of Stars And Time_, which is on EBS, and although the originality is dubious and the vocals make me cringe, it is nevertheless quite good Hawkwind-clonery. The sound is however appalling, it sounds like (as Carl once put it) it was recorded in a vacuum cleaner. Also, the lyrics are really pants. I'm told the sound is improved on the fsecond one, but the rest may not be. It is however still available, being stocked by Delerium (URL above) and CDS at the least (I don't have their address but someone else can provide I imagine). Hope this helps, yours, Jon From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Tue Sep 14 21:38:13 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:38:13 -0400 Subject: J.Jarrett w/best BOCL quote of the year? Message-ID: "The lyrics are really pants." I hurt myself laughing at this when it first popped up. Excellent verbiage! Catching his breath, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I'm in a FOUL mood today. Stay outa my way or I'll CRITIQUE YOUR ASS to hell. Just ME, just YOU...a decent song. You wanna see THEM, see THEM. I don't give a ****." - Richard Meltzer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Wed Sep 15 13:25:08 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:25:08 -0400 Subject: HW: Eclipse Question Message-ID: Just thinking about all the BOC "best of"'s strewn about the earth, and so i wondered: Is this Epoch-Eclipse box/CD the first Official HW best of that has been assembled, other than hatcheting done by odd minor labels? Got the Quark and working on the Strangeness, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Sep 15 13:04:33 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:04:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Eclipse Question In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990915132508.0068c864@mail1.wizvax.net> Message-ID: > Just thinking about all the BOC "best of"'s strewn about the earth, and so > i wondered: > > Is this Epoch-Eclipse box/CD the first Official HW best of that has been > assembled, other than hatcheting done by odd minor labels? > There was ROADHAWKS, way back when... --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Sep 15 12:02:40 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:02:40 -0400 Subject: HW: Eclipse Question Message-ID: Jason asked... >Just thinking about all the BOC "best of"'s strewn about the earth, and so >i wondered: > >Is this Epoch-Eclipse box/CD the first Official HW best of that has been >assembled, other than hatcheting done by odd minor labels? Certainly not!! Of course, *most* of the compilations/boxes out there are hard to call 'official', but at least there's the 4CD '25 Years On' boxset that Griffin released a few years back. And there was that LP box that came out in the pre-digital era also. But only in the UK...I've never seen one, as it was really not necessary for me to get it. Can't even remember the title. And overall, as far as compilations go, HW has BOC beat BIG time, I should think. Keith H. (FAA) From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Sep 15 14:34:38 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:34:38 +0100 Subject: Fw: HAWKWIND EMI press release Message-ID: >I received this today. Anybody have info on track 15? > >another Mark L. > > It's just a sleeve typo that seems to have worked its way into a press release. The cd has but 19 tracks. Nick From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Sep 15 14:37:48 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:37:48 +0100 Subject: Fw: HAWKWIND EMI press release Message-ID: >It's just a sleeve typo that seems to have worked its way into a press >release. The cd has but 19 tracks. > >Nick I meant 18 tracks, really. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Sep 15 13:27:23 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 13:27:23 -0400 Subject: OFF: Orion Space Rock Fest Message-ID: Hi Folks, By OFF, I mean OFF. It's been cancelled...here's the message from Adam Levin: Due to the fact that a week and a half following the mailing of postcards about the festival one of the main acts ceased to exist, another had to cancel due to a members' health problems and a 3rd due to logistical problems, we felt that it would not make sense to continue with a significantly different lineup than advertised, so unfortunately we are cancelling this year's show. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The amazing thing is that I believe that the act that has ceased to exist is none other than Alien Planetscapes. I've heard through the grapevine that Doug has his efforts focussed on another project called 'Sunrise Symphony' instead. Amazing news, and rather unfortunate, though I imagine SS will be a winner as well. I can only hope that Victims of the Blacklist is still released some time in the near future. Until then, we'll just hafta enjoy 'Prince Chubbs' from the Mother West space-rock comp. 'Turn Century Turn' (see www.motherwest.com). The 'health' problem I guess was Greg Koslowski (ArcMet) who hurt his leg or something. As far as ArcMet goes, I've heard they've expanded to four members, bringing on a new drummer which will put Deb out front singing. Good move I say. Dunno who had the logistical problem, but I guess that's of no concern now. It's sad to see that this fest won't happen this year, but then look at how many things haven't happened that were supposed to, eh? Kinda depressing....makes me wonder why more folks don't come to Strange Daze. Of course, each year there always seem to be a few folks/bands missing there also, but at least the event as a whole is always outstanding. It's been the one constant these last few years. Well, that's all I have to report. Anyone seen the Salamander/P.U. tour yet? Keith H. (FAA) From Mariej at BIGWIG.NET Wed Sep 15 15:58:32 1999 From: Mariej at BIGWIG.NET (Marie Jenkinson) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 20:58:32 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind on TV Message-ID: Hawkwind are getting everywhere in the media it seems. Imagine my surprise whilst waiting for the Wednesday night Star Trek - watching Top of the Pops 2 - to see Hawkwind's Silver Machine being played - this was a pleasant shock - seeing as I thought that the footage no longer existed. I particularly liked Steve Wright's comment at the end. "You know straight after this gig they all went home, had a mug of cocoa and went straight to bed". Let's hope they repeat it. Cheers Marie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM Wed Sep 15 16:04:02 1999 From: mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM (Marc Power) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:04:02 -0400 Subject: Orion cancellation+ Alien Planetscapes Message-ID: I can confirm that Alien Planetscapes is no more. Long-standing member, percussionist/drummer Matthew Block has bowed out due to ill-health and new musical studies. I spoke to Doug Walker last week, when he was unsure of what he was going to do next. I also spoke to him two days ago and he was over the surprise and is now planning to rebuild the band with the other personnel and a new drummer. I didn't think that the irrepressible Dr. Synth would be down and out for long. Let's hope that Alien Planetscapes are back on the runway and ready for take-off again real soon. Space! Marc http://www.borntogo.com/index.html http://www.borntogo.com/btg.html From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Sep 15 16:24:30 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:24:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind on TV In-Reply-To: <001501beffb4$f0eb4820$879701d4@fawe> Message-ID: Aargh! I actually watched it for a few minutes but switched off during Twiggy! However, there's another TOTP2 on Saturday at 4.25pm, which might be a repeat (unless tonight's was a repeat of last Saturday's...) I'm reminded of Steve Swindell's comment in Time Out a while back, something like "the only trips they took were to the supermarket..." :) --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Marie Jenkinson Sent: 15 September 1999 20:59 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: HW: Hawkwind on TV Hawkwind are getting everywhere in the media it seems. Imagine my surprise whilst waiting for the Wednesday night Star Trek - watching Top of the Pops 2 - to see Hawkwind's Silver Machine being played - this was a pleasant shock - seeing as I thought that the footage no longer existed. I particularly liked Steve Wright's comment at the end. "You know straight after this gig they all went home, had a mug of cocoa and went straight to bed". Let's hope they repeat it. Cheers Marie From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Sep 15 17:09:10 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 22:09:10 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind on TV Message-ID: >Aargh! I actually watched it for a few minutes but switched off during >Twiggy! However, there's another TOTP2 on Saturday at 4.25pm, which might >be a repeat (unless tonight's was a repeat of last Saturday's...) > Saturday's showing WILL be a repeat (according to the Radio Times, at least). Nick From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Sep 15 18:08:32 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:08:32 +0100 Subject: HW: TOTP2 Message-ID: On the above-mentioned program tonight they showed the old fil of the guys doing "Silver Machine"... interesting to see virtually no attempt to sync the film that they shot with the single...I think there were about 3 shots where Lemmy's mouth was in step, but a lot more where we heard singing, but saw the Lemster just leaping around & tharshing his bass. Still wish I'd had a vid-tape to hand... ChrisW "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Wed Sep 15 18:33:18 1999 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 00:33:18 +0200 Subject: HW: TOTP2 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990915230832.007f9570@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: >On the above-mentioned program tonight they showed the old fil of the guys >doing "Silver Machine"... interesting to see virtually no attempt to sync >the film that they shot with the single...I think there were about 3 shots >where Lemmy's mouth was in step, but a lot more where we heard singing, but >saw the Lemster just leaping around & tharshing his bass. Still wish I'd >had a vid-tape to hand... > >ChrisW wouldn't this be a good idea if someone taped silver machine and put it on his homepage. then we could see this all over the world. there must be someone who is able or knows the technology to do this. looking forward to this. andre From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Wed Sep 15 19:41:35 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:41:35 +0900 Subject: HW: TOTP2 Message-ID: Would some very, very nice person like to video this?? Please!!! Dave (a long way from BBC2) Chris Warburton wrote: > On the above-mentioned program tonight they showed the old fil of the guys > doing "Silver Machine"... interesting to see virtually no attempt to sync > the film that they shot with the single...I think there were about 3 shots > where Lemmy's mouth was in step, but a lot more where we heard singing, but > saw the Lemster just leaping around & tharshing his bass. Still wish I'd > had a vid-tape to hand... > > ChrisW > > "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - > Bierce From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Sep 15 21:45:01 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:45:01 -0400 Subject: OFF: Attn: Cap'n Cloud Message-ID: Hey Chuck Johnson... If you're here, could you respond to me via private e-mail...I've lost your addy. Thanks...Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Sorry to bother you all. From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Thu Sep 16 02:07:44 1999 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 07:07:44 +0100 Subject: HW: TOTP2 Message-ID: I'm going to try, but can't promise anything (my memory's not what it used to be). Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Greenhalgh To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 12:41 AM Subject: Re: HW: TOTP2 > Would some very, very nice person like to video this?? Please!!! > > Dave (a long way from BBC2) > > Chris Warburton wrote: > > > On the above-mentioned program tonight they showed the old fil of the guys > > doing "Silver Machine"... interesting to see virtually no attempt to sync > > the film that they shot with the single...I think there were about 3 shots > > where Lemmy's mouth was in step, but a lot more where we heard singing, but > > saw the Lemster just leaping around & tharshing his bass. Still wish I'd > > had a vid-tape to hand... > > > > ChrisW > > > > "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - > > Bierce From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Thu Sep 16 02:58:47 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:58:47 +0900 Subject: HW: Lemmy in Anime? Message-ID: Apologies to the list if this has been discussed before. Cartoon Network here in Japan is currently screening the animated version of Superman. Can't be more specific as we don't get the full titles/credits of the original, just the local licensee and voice actors. The last couple of episodes featured an intergalactic biker-cum-bounty hunter called "Lobo" (Spelling?) Has any one seen this, and if so, does anyone know if the model for Lobo is Lemmy, or was the animator having a flashback day? dave From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Sep 16 03:59:49 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 03:59:49 EDT Subject: HW: Lemmy in Anime? Message-ID: In a message dated 9/16/99 3:27:47 AM, d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET writes: << Has any one seen this, and if so, does anyone know if the model for Lobo is Lemmy, or was the animator having a flashback day? >> ======= hmm....never thought of that....maybe? lobo goes back at least 10 years in the comic books "<>" From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Sep 15 09:13:48 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:13:48 +0100 Subject: Fw: HAWKWIND EMI press release In-Reply-To: <000701befee6$5b6f3320$0100a8c0@catherine> Message-ID: In article <000701befee6$5b6f3320$0100a8c0 at catherine>, Clemens & Associates writes >I received this today. Anybody have info on track 15? Yes, it's a track off "Caution"! There are in fact 18 tracks on the single disc version, numbered 1-14 and 16-19 on the sleeve, but if you hit track 15 its Right to Decide, and there's no track 19. -- Jon obCD 3 track Silverrrrr Machine promo with regular and 12" Scourge remix! From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Sep 16 04:25:00 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:25:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Lemmy in Anime? In-Reply-To: <37E09527.2D5465BF@virgin.net> Message-ID: Saw it in France once - don't think it's based on Lemmy, although there are similarities, but on an American comic book character. --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Thu Sep 16 00:33:13 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 04:33:13 +0000 Subject: Trepanation Message-ID: Ain't this an interesting little turn of events! I received this e-mail yesterday: Thanks for the nice posting on our film, "A Hole In The Head." It made it's way back to me and its nice to see people talking about the film. If anyone is interested in purchasing the video, the number is 800-729-9368. Very shortly, my next documentary, "Urine: Good Health" will be available on video. More info on the Urine Therapy doc will be available shortly on our web site. The Mad Dog Films, Inc. web site is located at http://www.xemu.com/maddogfilms . Thanks again for the kind words and feel free to let everyone know about our work. Sincerely yours, Eli Kabillio From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 16 05:08:14 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:08:14 +0100 Subject: Fw: HAWKWIND EMI press release In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 14:13 15/09/99 , Jon Browne wrote: >There are in fact 18 tracks on the single disc version, >numbered 1-14 and 16-19 on the sleeve, but if you hit track 15 its Right >to Decide, and there's no track 19. It's nice to see EMI keeping up the HW tradition ;-). Dave. From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 16 05:11:29 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:11:29 +0100 Subject: Trepanation/trickeration In-Reply-To: <3079a460.250f92c5@aol.com> Message-ID: At 13:00 14/09/99 , DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: >well, my demons pay the rent on time >and as long as they dont play their stereo too late at night >they can stay. There's the beginning of a lyric in there somewhere... Dave. From eggfoolejung at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Sep 16 05:57:13 1999 From: eggfoolejung at HOTMAIL.COM (Suicide Victory) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 02:57:13 PDT Subject: HW: Lemmy in Anime? Message-ID: Well, the original Keith Giffen version of Lobo from Omega Men was more straightforward space biker type guy in an orange and purple jumpsuit. But when UK artist Simon Bisley started drawing the character he modelled Lobo more on Lemmy and changed his wardrobe and hairdo abit! Simon Bisley is a confirmed fan of Motorhead and there's no doubt the Lemmy similarity is no coincidence. Christian ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Thu Sep 16 06:16:11 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:16:11 +0100 Subject: HW: For Stephan Spiegal. Message-ID: MSG for Stephan Spiegal, No I didn't, I lost all my m'boxes recently and decided to wait for a 'where is it message' coz it hadn't been addressed and I couldn't remember a) your name !!! or b) your working mail address I think it was something at boeing that worked for me. Confirm your snail and it'll go pronto. Cheers, Mark. From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Thu Sep 16 06:54:10 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:54:10 +0900 Subject: HW: Lemmy in Anime? Message-ID: I knew I wasn't going mad. Thanks for that! Dave Suicide Victory wrote: > Well, the original Keith Giffen version of Lobo from Omega Men was more > straightforward space biker type guy in an orange and purple jumpsuit. But > when UK artist Simon Bisley started drawing the character he modelled Lobo > more on Lemmy and changed his wardrobe and hairdo abit! Simon Bisley is a > confirmed fan of Motorhead and there's no doubt the Lemmy similarity is no > coincidence. > Christian > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Sep 16 07:00:18 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 07:00:18 EDT Subject: HW: Lemmy in Anime? Message-ID: In a message dated 9/16/99 6:53:31 AM, d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET writes: << > Well, the original Keith Giffen version of Lobo from Omega Men was more > straightforward space biker type guy in an orange and purple jumpsuit. But > when UK artist Simon Bisley started drawing the character he modelled Lobo > more on Lemmy and changed his wardrobe and hairdo abit! Simon Bisley is a > confirmed fan of Motorhead and there's no doubt the Lemmy similarity is no > coincidence. > Christian > >> ======= by golly, he's right. lobo looked/acted more like a clown in the beginning. excusing myself by saying this involved comics i had no interest in, despite ==koff== working in the industry, i remain... "<>" From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Thu Sep 16 08:47:56 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 07:47:56 -0500 Subject: HW: For Mark Lee Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Mark Lee To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Thursday, September 16, 1999 5:28 AM Subject: HW: For Stephan Spiegal. >MSG for Stephan Spiegal, > >No I didn't, I lost all my m'boxes recently and decided to wait >for a 'where is it message' coz it hadn't been addressed and I >couldn't remember a) your name !!! or b) your working mail address >I think it was something at boeing that worked for me. > >Confirm your snail and it'll go pronto. Stephan Spiegel RT 1 Box 39AA Blair OK 73526 From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Sep 16 09:29:34 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:29:34 -0400 Subject: HW: Lemmy in Anime? Message-ID: >Apologies to the list if this has been discussed before. > >Cartoon Network here in Japan is currently screening the >animated version of Superman. Can't be more specific as we >don't get the full titles/credits of the original, just the >local licensee and voice actors. The last couple of >episodes featured an intergalactic biker-cum-bounty hunter >called "Lobo" (Spelling?) Has any one seen this, and if >so, does anyone know if the model for Lobo is Lemmy, or was >the animator having a flashback day? You know there are too many comics people on here to let that slip. Lobo comes from comic books... Lobo was created by Keith Giffen, in Omega Men. He became a bit of a hit after showing up in Justice League (at the time written by Giffen) and eventually got his own book, by which time he'd transformed a lot into the biker/bounty hunter he is now known as. To my knowledge, he was never based on Lemmy or anyone else. In fact, he was originally not like the biker/bounty hunter he eventually became. Originally he was just a deadly assassin, who killed everyone on his home planet (well, except one other whom he gets later), and every drop of blood he spilled would make a clone of him (this ability was eventually burned out ). He really came unto his own in his first miniseries, where artist Simon Bisely's ultraviolent art style meshed perfectly with what Giffen wrote for him. There may have been some Motorhead influence from Bisley. This is one of the funniest mini-series I have ever read... The Elvis Truckers.... the violent ballet troupe.... the league of decency... the spelling bee commandos... very highly recommended if you don't mind violent humor. Others have been hit or miss, but I very much recommend the "Unamerican Gladiators" miniseries. Bisely didn't do the art, but this one was great fun. Lobo was a member of the L.E.G.I.O.N. book for a number of years, he was a little toned down (not much) in this, still violent, not as funny, though. Much important info on his character occured in here. Then, he got his own book, which was at times great. It eventually did get cancelled... you can only tell the same jokes so many times... ------------- info about lobo He has a sentimental side, he loves his pals, "Space Dolphins". He goes out of his way to kill anyone who harms them. His motorcycle is a "Spazfrag 666" Lobo as in "wolf"? no, it's Lobo, which in Khundish dialect means "He who devours your entrails and thoroughly enjoys it". Lobo will keep his word when he gives it. Though he always looks for loopholes. His favorite band is "Oedipus Wrecks". His favorite radio station is, IIRC, "Cosmic Rock Zombie". They play one song, non-stop, 24 hours a day, "I killed my parents" by Oedipus Wrecks. Upon pain of death, Lobo said he would kill them if they ever stopped playing that song. He has a receiver built into his cranium so he can hear it non-stop at maximum volume. One of the more amusing stories, the DJ who had been playing that record for over a decade finally had to leave the booth to get a haircut. His understudy took over, and not understanding why it was so vital to play that song, decided to play "Soul Music" instead. Lobo, who had begun banging his head against a wall when this situation started, was approached by a demonic guy (named Neron) who wanted to know if he could take his soul.... Lobo, thinking he meant the soul music in his head, readily agreed.... and after the misunderstanding was sorted out (by violence), there's this great scene of Neron standing while some disco anthem is blaring inside his head. Lobo, a compassionate soul, didn't let him suffer long, as he blew up the radio station a few panels later (carrying out his threat). "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Sep 16 09:55:51 1999 From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:55:51 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind scans Message-ID: Hi folks URGENT Would anybody be kind enough and able to scan any of the following Hawkwind record covers ??. Send attached to email: age.p at conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk Colour scans would be great, preferably at 300 dpi and about half the size of the originals. 1. Single: Quark Strangeness & Charm c/w The Iron Dream 2. Single: Hassan I Sahba c/w Damnation Alley (pt.2.) 3. Single: Psi Power c/ w Death Trap 4. 2 Single Pack: Hurry On Sundown, Master Of the Universe c/ w Silver Machine, Orgone Accumulator 5. 2 Single Pack: Silver Machine, Seven By Seven c/w Lord Of Light, Born To Go 6. Album: Dragon Fly (Hawkwind & Jefferson Starship) 7. Album: Rock On (Hawkwind & Van Der Graff Generator) They're all going in the book, so if you can help out, please do. Hope to hear from you Best Age Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Sep 16 10:54:09 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:54:09 GMT Subject: HW in Leeds? Message-ID: wotchya, i've been away foraa few days and dunno if i missed any gig news however a mate in Leeds swears blind that the Hawks are playing an Irish centre in Leeds on Nov 2nd. Now the mate who told me has a habit of winding me up so he could be bullshitting me but he's gone to the lengths of a promise of train fare and entry so he might be truthing it. Any details anyone? if not i've got a lift up there this weekend and will try and find proof with my own eyes. andrew From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Sep 16 11:22:33 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:22:33 EDT Subject: Orion cancellation+ Alien Planetscapes Message-ID: ....from dr. synth himself! "<>" ========================================================================== Keith...never fear AP will not die! WE'LL BE BACK SOON, with new personell & new direction(more like the early '90s music, more improv/Miles influence than the last 3 years!) Plus, I have rejoined WILLIAM HOOKER's group, so at least I'll be performing regularly around NYC(he's hot here now, gets lots of work) Hey, thanks man, I got into MUSHROOM at your reccomendation, LIKE THIS BAND LOTS! Have you got any line on SD '99 tapes? I'm really curious to hear both the AP set and TOMBSTONE VALENTINE;I'm making plans to go to Indie to produce their next release over Xmas, and I intend to stop of in Columbus to freeload off you & Jerry and Paul Williams for a day or so! I'll have more info on the trip in a few months! Yo, check out MEV Live in Rome '68, and STEVE LACY "Saxophone Special", which just came out! 1st Class stuff, the Lacy has Michel Waisviz(who invented the MIDI GLOVE)on VCS-3, which he ALWAYS played with no keyboard(like a certain NYC guy I know!) Another is EMBRYO "Live in Der Fabrik", a concert from 1974...they are superb, I'm working on a review of some Embryo things for Jerry so you'll hear about them a lot from me! so don't worry, to quote a Cuban proverb:"You can't kill a Cockroach, they never die", so expect AP to be back and at SDY2K! Doug From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Sep 16 11:26:09 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:26:09 EDT Subject: Orion cancellation+ Alien Planetscapes Message-ID: that missive from doc synth was actually addressed to mr henderson...shunta posted it to the gang. sorry. voyeurism in axion "<>" From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Sep 16 11:48:24 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:48:24 -0400 Subject: OFF: Orange Goblin/Nebula Message-ID: Hi Folks... Saw these three dates listed...might be of some interest to you space-metalheads over in the UK. This was from the Nebula page, so there might be more O.G. dates out on their own. Orange Goblin/Nebula: 09/29/99 - London, England @ Underworld 09/30/99 - Milton-Keynes, UK @ PITS 10/01/99 - Hengelo, Holland @ Metropool Keith H. (FAA) From jgoran at TELEBOT.COM Thu Sep 16 14:43:00 1999 From: jgoran at TELEBOT.COM (Goran Janicijevic) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:43:00 +0200 Subject: OFF: Attn: Cap'n Cloud In-Reply-To: <199909160259.WAA03124@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Keith Henderson wrote in <199909160259.WAA03124 at mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu>: >Hey Chuck Johnson... > >If you're here, could you respond to me via private e-mail...I've lost your >addy. Send a mail to listserv at listserv.spc.edu without subject, and body containing: REVIEW BOC-L You'll get all the (unconcealed) residents of this list with their appropriate addresses. (Didn't find any Chuck Johnson in the list I have). -- Goran From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Sep 16 15:45:01 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:45:01 EDT Subject: OFF: Orion Space Rock Fest/A. Planetscapes Message-ID: In a message dated 9/15/99 11:42:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: << The amazing thing is that I believe that the act that has ceased to exist is none other than Alien Planetscapes. I've heard through the grapevine that Doug has his efforts focussed on another project called 'Sunrise Symphony' instead. Amazing news, and rather unfortunate, though I imagine SS will be a winner as well. I can only hope that Victims of the Blacklist is still released some time in the near future. Until then, we'll just hafta enjoy 'Prince Chubbs' from the Mother West space-rock comp. 'Turn Century Turn' (see www.motherwest.com). >> ----Wasn't it Cleo's "Space Box" which said under AP's entry that they were working on a project which would be the first "space rock orchestra" or something? Maybe this has to do w/this Sunrise Symphony? Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Sep 16 16:46:44 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:46:44 EDT Subject: OFF: SDNC hours for Sat (and instructs for Web) Message-ID: ---Once again, new hours. This should be the schedule for the next 3 weeks at least. Space Does Not Care 88.3 FM KUCR, Saturdays---------5-8 PST Note: I am sincerely interested in helping to promote this "scene" (I especially don't want to receive free promo CDs and not put them to use), so if you're not local and are interested in any of the bands I've posted on my play-list, you are encouraged to e-mail me if you listened to my program on the Web and got anything out of it. I just want to know if I'm making a dent at all. UnivCalRiverside, the city of Riverside and it's immediately surrounding areas are not booming w/results, so I'm just hoping to hear from those around the country or abroad. I know WimAmp is not the easiest web-radio server to use, but hopefully the below instructions are simple enough so that it'd be worth it to tune in to "Space Does Not Care". Thanks. Come and listen on WinAmp or Linux. Here are the instructions-- Instructions for listening to KUCR on the web. 1) Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to hear KUCR. http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your computer. After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program (Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the following http://www.kucr.org:8000 Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up, double click again to reconnect. Chuck's program is on the air at 7:00 pm Pacific Time. The US is currently on daylight savings time which makes us in California minus seven hours from UTC, GMT, Zulu or whatever they call the standard "universal" time in your country. When the time change comes here in the fall, we will be minus eight hours from UTC. Alternate instructions for Linux users: 1) download xmms from www.xmms.org ( redhat6 users can get the i386 RPM and install with rpm -ivh --nodeps xmms*rpm ) 2) install the program (compile it if you downloaded it in source form) 3) start xmms 4) press Ctrl-L and enter http://www.kucr.org:8000 From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Sep 16 18:27:00 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:27:00 +0100 Subject: OFF: CMJ/Tour dates (long) In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990910131347.008ece30@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Doug Pearson wrote: > >Pretty Things Maxwell's 9-17 Fri. 11:00pm > > I saw the Pretty Things last weekend in San Francisco - FANTASTIC! They > play music from their entire career, from their original high-energy R&B > configuration (and Phil May can still snarl as well now as when he was in > his 20s) through the exquisite psychedelia of 'S.F. Sorrow' and 'Parachute' > through their straight-ahead 70s rock through a couple good songs off of > their newest album. And it's all good! One of the highlights of the > performance, for me, was hearing Dick Taylor's psychedelic guitar leads > (especially in the set-closing "L.S.D."->"Old Man Going" segment) - it > really showed that this was the guy who produced (and played on) the first > Hawkwind album. I had never really made the connection before, despite > having listened to 'S.F. Sorrow' hundreds of times, but it was obvious that > his playing must have been one of the bigger influences (along with > Barrett/Gilmour) on Dave Brock's transition from acoustic blues guitarist > to the blanga space rocker that we know and love him as. Got _Resurrection_ by this lot as a first step into Things, Pretty, and wasn't too impressed on first listen. Is the old stuff better, or was I just not listening? Yours, Jon From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Sep 17 08:02:05 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:02:05 EDT Subject: OFF: dink floyd Message-ID: i live in new england, towards the cape. and by the time hurricane floyd showed up last night it was mostly some wind and not much else...brief power outage around 5 this morning and that was it. were there any BOC-L folks further south on the east coast who got clobbered? "<>" From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Fri Sep 17 10:57:14 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:57:14 -0400 Subject: OFF: dink floyd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Daslud wrote: >i live in new england, towards the cape. and by the time hurricane floyd >showed up last night it was mostly some wind and not much else...brief power >outage around 5 this morning and that was it. > >were there any BOC-L folks further south on the east coast who got clobbered? > >"<>" Well, I'm on the Southern coast of Lake Ontario. We didn't get violent wind or driving rain, but the results weren't pretty. It rained *all day* yesterday (and this in a very dry season for us), and the resulting dampness and shift in temperature have left me with a terribly sore throat and sinus problems. A casualty of Floyd, Brian From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 17 12:57:09 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 17:57:09 +0100 Subject: Fw: HAWKWIND EMI press release In-Reply-To: Jon Browne's message of Wed, 15 Sep 1999 14:13:48 +0100 Message-ID: Jon Browne writes: > obCD 3 track Silverrrrr Machine promo with regular and 12" Scourge remix! Is there a source for this wondrous object? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 17 13:03:47 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:03:47 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind scans In-Reply-To: Adrian Parr's message of Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:55:51 +0100 Message-ID: Adrian Parr writes: > Hi folks > URGENT > Would anybody be kind enough and able to scan any of the following Hawkwind > record covers ?? > 1. Single: Quark Strangeness & Charm c/w The Iron Dream > 2. Single: Hassan I Sahba c/w Damnation Alley (pt.2.) > 3. Single: Psi Power c/ w Death Trap > 4. 2 Single Pack: Hurry On Sundown, Master Of the Universe c/ w Silver > Machine, Orgone Accumulator > 5. 2 Single Pack: Silver Machine, Seven By Seven c/w Lord Of Light, Born To > Go > 6. Album: Dragon Fly (Hawkwind & Jefferson Starship) Sure, yeah. Which of my six copies would you like me to scan? Mike "Is it April 1st?" Holmes From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Sep 17 13:09:27 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:09:27 EDT Subject: Hawkwind scans Message-ID: In a message dated 9/17/99 1:04:03 PM, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: << > 6. Album: Dragon Fly (Hawkwind & Jefferson Starship) >> ================== say WHAT?!? "<>" From vince-l at EROLS.COM Fri Sep 17 18:16:40 1999 From: vince-l at EROLS.COM (Vince LeGrand) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:16:40 -0400 Subject: OFF: dink floyd Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: DASLUD at AOL.COM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Friday, September 17, 1999 8:06 AM Subject: OFF: dink floyd >i live in new england, towards the cape. and by the time hurricane floyd >showed up last night it was mostly some wind and not much else...brief power >outage around 5 this morning and that was it. > >were there any BOC-L folks further south on the east coast who got clobbered? > >"<>" I live about 25 miles southwest of Philly, and yeah, we got dumped on! The wind wasn't as bad as predicted, but it sure did rain...there are conflicting reports on the amount of rain, but all of them say at least 8 inches. Fortunately, my basement stayed dry and my CD's, stereo, drums, synths, etc. didn't get wet. But, it was quite a drive home from work on Thursday...had to make a lot detours because of closed roads. Vince From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Sat Sep 18 00:24:06 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 00:24:06 -0400 Subject: OFF/BOC: Roter Method Rumblings... Message-ID: This I found on the Tommy Mandel web page http://www.tommymandel.com/NewTom.html Oh yeah, also an independent CD called "Sheniqua's Having a Baby", about a 14 year old black girl giving birth in a rack house; that one is by a NYC school teacher, David Roter, he's a tough guy-intellectual, and the Albert Bouchard, the drummer from Blue Oyster Cult (and the Brain Surgeons) is coproducing. Just gigged with Roter at Arlene's Grocery, down on theLower East Side of nyc. He's OutRageous live! I also played at the High School Graduation yesterday for David's kids [Note: this doesn't seem updated since summer. Either way, news is out there on bubbling new product.] not listening to ANY music until the mighty PoW arrives (take bets on how long i'll last!:)), Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From moonglum at ECLIPSE.NET Sat Sep 18 09:44:31 1999 From: moonglum at ECLIPSE.NET (Julie) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 09:44:31 -0400 Subject: OFF: dink floyd In-Reply-To: <199909180901.FAA27236@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Here in NJ we got hit pretty well...I had a tree fall on my car (not Ron Tree, but the destructive properties were maybe just as great, audio generator or not). And the store I work at got seriously flooded with app. $10K of damage. 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From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Sat Sep 18 12:14:11 1999 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 17:14:11 +0100 Subject: Bedouin gigs Message-ID: 18/9 Roadhouse, Birmingham, 0121 458 6883 30/9 Joiners Arms, Southampton, 01703 225612 1/10 Verdi's, Weymouth, 01305 779842 7/10 The White Hart, Telford, 01952 246982 8/10 West One Four, London 0171 381 0444 (with Snorkwind) 9/10 Rye Community Centre, 07889 676273 (with Snorkwind) 15/10 The Rigger, Newcastle-under-Lyme (tbc), 01782 616602 23/10 Harrogate Arms, Harrogate, 01423 502434 13/11 The Bierkellar, Southampton, 01703 332005 25/11 The Limelight, Crewe, 01270 251929 26/11 Army & Navy, Chelmsford, 01245 354155 Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Sat Sep 18 12:50:10 1999 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 11:50:10 -0500 Subject: HW TOTP2 video Message-ID: Kevin Perry wrote: > > I have the video and hopefully next weekend will be able to digitise it > ready for the Web. Any preferences to format? > High quality mpg or avi, about a 12 meg file should look good. If you have the space. > Captions at end also said 'Celebrating 30th anniversary this year, new > version of Silver Machine + gigs'... > > Kevin Perry > Sonic Energy Authority > http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ > > "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; > and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its > duties." From dhira.lalita at VIRGIN.NET Sat Sep 18 13:15:01 1999 From: dhira.lalita at VIRGIN.NET (Dhira Lalita) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 18:15:01 +0100 Subject: HW TOTP2 video Message-ID: Hi, that was so weird, I never watch that show usually. And I was gonna turn it off because it was so boring. Never expected to see Hawkwind on TOTP. Dunno about format, but the web address would be great, thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Perry To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 5:13 PM Subject: HW TOTP2 video I have the video and hopefully next weekend will be able to digitise it ready for the Web. Any preferences to format? Captions at end also said 'Celebrating 30th anniversary this year, new version of Silver Machine + gigs'... Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Sep 18 13:35:52 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 18:35:52 +0100 Subject: HW TOTP2 video In-Reply-To: <004f01bf01fb$04202da0$230ffea9@dhiralalita> Message-ID: Weren't they great? And weren't they so young! Grunge - now there's another genre they invented! :) --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Sat Sep 18 15:10:42 1999 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 20:10:42 +0100 Subject: HW TOTP2 video Message-ID: I will have that amount of space soon - not sure when but don't worry, I'll keep people here informed. Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Witt To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 5:50 PM Subject: Re: HW TOTP2 video > Kevin Perry wrote: > > > > I have the video and hopefully next weekend will be able to digitise it > > ready for the Web. Any preferences to format? > > > > > High quality mpg or avi, about a 12 meg file should look good. If you > have the space. > > > > Captions at end also said 'Celebrating 30th anniversary this year, new > > version of Silver Machine + gigs'... > > > > Kevin Perry > > Sonic Energy Authority > > http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ > > > > "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; > > and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its > > duties." From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Sat Sep 18 18:19:37 1999 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 00:19:37 +0200 Subject: HW TOTP2 video Message-ID: >Weren't they great? And weren't they so young! > >Grunge - now there's another genre they invented! :) > >--Andy > stacia looked really cooooooooooooollllllllllllllllll great and even dikmik with/without head singing. andre From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Sat Sep 18 18:23:35 1999 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 00:23:35 +0200 Subject: HW TOTP2 video In-Reply-To: <004901bf0209$81afb340$231ec8c3@johann> Message-ID: >I will have that amount of space soon - not sure when but don't worry, I'll >keep people here informed. > >> > I have the video and hopefully next weekend will be able to digitise it >> > ready for the Web. Any preferences to format? >> > >> >> >> High quality mpg or avi, about a 12 meg file should look good. If you >> have the space. >> >> >> > Captions at end also said 'Celebrating 30th anniversary this year, new >> > version of Silver Machine + gigs'... > hello kevin really appriciate the trouble for putting it online. i recorded it too but the broadcast was not very clear here where i live in holland. but it's still a great souvenir. andre From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Sat Sep 18 18:25:19 1999 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 00:25:19 +0200 Subject: HW TOTP2 video In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990919001930.00933800@pop.casema.net> Message-ID: >> > >stacia looked really cooooooooooooollllllllllllllllll > >great and even dikmik with/without head singing. > sorry meant "hat" instead of "head". excuse me. andre From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Sep 19 05:23:02 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 10:23:02 +0100 Subject: HW TOTP2 video Message-ID: It was quite excirting to finally see this old clip. Does anyone know if the raw footage still exists? Perhaps EMI could use it along with other Hawk tv appearances to release an Epoch-Eclpise video compilation. Incidentally if anyone wants a copy of the TOTP performance then I can easily do them. Mail me off-list if interested to arrange something. Nick From micci at SCI.FI Sun Sep 19 13:11:42 1999 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 20:11:42 +0300 Subject: Bedouin gigs Message-ID: Hi! >8/10 West One Four, London 0171 381 0444 (with Snorkwind) >9/10 Rye Community Centre, 07889 676273 (with Snorkwind) What or who is Snorkwind? Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Sun Sep 19 13:12:55 1999 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 18:12:55 +0100 Subject: Bedouin gigs Message-ID: Dunno - HW tribute band? I'm just copying from the Bedouin flyer that dropped through the letterbox. Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Miikka Wagner To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Bedouin gigs > Hi! > > > >8/10 West One Four, London 0171 381 0444 (with Snorkwind) > >9/10 Rye Community Centre, 07889 676273 (with Snorkwind) > > What or who is Snorkwind? > > Miikka Wagner > email: micci at sci.fi > http://www.sci.fi/~micci From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Sun Sep 19 13:24:43 1999 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 19:24:43 +0200 Subject: Bedouin gigs In-Reply-To: <003601bf02c2$37d0b940$231ec8c3@johann> Message-ID: >Dunno - HW tribute band? I'm just copying from the Bedouin flyer that >dropped through the letterbox. > >> >8/10 West One Four, London 0171 381 0444 (with Snorkwind) >> >9/10 Rye Community Centre, 07889 676273 (with Snorkwind) >> >> What or who is Snorkwind? >> >> Miikka Wagner >> email: micci at sci.fi >> http://www.sci.fi/~micci probably it's a mix of ex-hawkwind members like huw lloyd langton, alan, danny and others famous guests. andre From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Sep 19 16:40:38 1999 From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 21:40:38 +0100 Subject: Snorkwind Message-ID: Snorkwind are Alan Davey, Huw Lloyd Langton and Danny Thompson. They played a few gigs in 1985 - 1986 when Hawkwind were off the road. Rock and Blues, with Hendrix and Dylan covers thrown in. I think they also did a gig earlier this year. Age Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Sep 19 17:06:47 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 17:06:47 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Set-list Message-ID: "Space Does Not Care" 9/18/99 5-8pm pst 88.3 fm KUCR 1.The Brain--Vortex in My Cortex (Space Box comp) 2.Pseudo Sun--Signs of Life (Signs of Life; great song, Juba) 3.Melting Euphoria--Of Misting Eyes and Lavender (Through the Strands of Time) 4.Ektroverde--Kalkutta (Turn Century Turn comp) 5.Escapade--Turtle Chase (Citrus Cloud Cover) 6.Helios Creed--Monster Lust (Superior Catholic Finger) 7.Alien Planetscapes--Radiation King (Life on Earth) 8.Hawklords--Automaton/25 Years (Hawklords Live) 9.Roy Montgomery--Entertaining Mr. Jones (And Now the Rain...) 10.Saddar Bazaar--Arc of Ascent Part 1 (Conference of the Birds) 11.Popol Vuh--In the Gardens of Pharaoh (In the Gardens of Pharaoh) 12.Daniel Lanois--Fisherman's Daughter (Acadie) 13.Pink Floyd--Chapter 24 (Piper at the Gates of Dawn) 14.Daevid Allen's University of Errors--Mullumbimby Mother (Money Doesn't Make It) 15.Uriah Heep--Circle of Hands (Demons & Wizards) 16.Robert Calvert--The Right Stuff (Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters) 17.Spaceship Eyes--Pegasus Burning (Kamarupa; thanks to Don Falcone) 18.The Orb--UForb (UForb) 19.Pressurehed--Beyond the Pale Mirrors (Infadrome) 20.Faust--Jennifer (IV) 21.Ozric Tentacles--Erpriff (Live Ethereal Cereal) 22.Anubian Lights--Soul Herder (Jackal & 9) 23.Hawkwind--P.X.R.5 (P.X.R.5) Comments/questions welcome, Chuck From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Mon Sep 20 04:54:23 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 09:54:23 +0100 Subject: OFF: Shameless self promotion Message-ID: Apologies if this arrives twice. Server problems donchaknow. Issue 4 reviews on line now. Freezine out 30 September 1999 for a 31p A5 SAE (UK) 2 IRCs (RoW). Next issue includes MATRIX 22 EMULATOR PARACHUTE ICED EARTH SCHNITTSTELLEN SFB DYING DAY VARIOUS ARTISTS - Holy Dio SAMAEL CARDIACS meet CAMP BLACKFOOT VARIOUS - 13th Hour Sampler EPOCH GRAND FACADE SLOTERDIJK INTERLOCK ROBERT and REBECCA RICHARDSON ROOT-O-EVIL 1st Anniversary sampler Click on URL below, then select Zeitgeist e-zine, Issue 4 reviews. To receive a monthly Zeitgeist update, please sign up to our mailing list, available on the Zeitgeist index page. Regards, Z Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com alternate url: http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "The way I keep in touch with the world is very gingerly, because the world touches too hard" Don Van Vliet From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Sep 20 09:53:20 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 09:53:20 -0400 Subject: OFF: Orion Space Rock Fest/A. Planetscapes Message-ID: Chris says... >What a hoot! It is truly amazing how rumors and misinformation get generated >on the net! A. P. has not, is not, and will not disband. These guys practice >at least twice a week! And there have been more members of AP than of >Hawkwind! I have just spoken with Fran Walker, and aside from Matt leaving to >go back to school, A.P. goes on as ever, and "sunrise Symphony" is nothing of >their design... The grapevine has been hitting a little of the grape, it >seems! Yeah, well, I was sort of 'eavesdropping' on a conversation including Adam himself, and I would have thought *he* would've known what he was talking about. When he mentioned further about one of the bands ceasing to exist, I figured he was confirming what I'd seen earlier. I think the SS comment came from the other person in this non-factual discussion. I can't explain why so much mis-information was passed among those directly involved with Orion itself. Whatever, it seemed hard to believe since I had talked to Doug at SD'99 and this news seemed out of the realm of possibility, but I waited four or five days upon first notice to post anything, and I saw nothing to counter what I'd heard. Suppose I should've asked Doug directly. Oh, well, no permanent harm done I hope. :) I do see, though, that since Matt can't continue with the group, there will hafta be some sort of hiatus in order to come up with a new drummer. And that would have kept them from performing at Orion, so some truth to the matter *did* exist. But the best thing is that AP should be ready 'n' willing to take the stage again for SD2K at least. Wouldn't be the same without 'em. Keith H. (FAA) From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Mon Sep 20 12:51:22 1999 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 18:51:22 +0200 Subject: HW: 70's Synths Message-ID: Hello everybody, I'm currently reading a book about synthesizers (one of my hobbies, btw) and now I wonder what synthies DikMik and Del used in their time with Hawkwind. I know that Tim Blake used both EMS (VCS3 & AKS) and Moog synths and I suppose D&D also used them. But does someone here know it exactly? D-R From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Sep 20 14:15:48 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 19:15:48 +0100 Subject: 70's Synths In-Reply-To: <37E6660A.7C6501D4@unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: Somewhere in the "scrapbook" section of www.hawkwind.com, there's a "band breakdown" from 1973, which has an equipment list at the end. --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Denis Regenbrecht > Sent: 20 September 1999 17:51 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: HW: 70's Synths > > > Hello everybody, > > > I'm currently reading a book about synthesizers (one of my hobbies, btw) > and now I wonder what synthies DikMik and Del used in their time with > Hawkwind. > I know that Tim Blake used both EMS (VCS3 & AKS) and Moog synths and I > suppose D&D also used them. But does someone here know it exactly? > > > D-R > From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Sep 20 15:55:27 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 20:55:27 +0100 Subject: Fw: HAWKWIND EMI press release In-Reply-To: <199909171657.RAA14184@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In message <199909171657.RAA14184 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >Jon Browne writes: > >> obCD 3 track Silverrrrr Machine promo with regular and 12" Scourge remix! > >Is there a source for this wondrous object? > >FoFP I was given one by a plugger, for which I am well grateful. I did see one on ebay for $42 last week. Scandalous! -- Jon From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Tue Sep 21 01:58:07 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 16:58:07 +1100 Subject: HW/OFF: HLL FINAL DATES & NEWS Message-ID: FYI .... ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Send reply to: "lloydlangton" From: "lloydlangton" To: "Paul Ward" Subject: FINAL DATES & NEWS Date sent: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 07:37:18 +0100 TOUR DATES WILL BE UPDATED ON SITE TODAY IN THE MEANTIME the finalised schedule for LLG iss below, please note the new CD 'Chain Reaction' will only available from the web site http://huwlloyd-langton.co.uk or via mail order from Allegro - details are all on site - CD will not be sold in records shops - this is a deliberate move on our parts because time and time again fans were unable to buy CDs from shops - so the web is our only answer to this. CD in stock on 28th September - I will keep you informed Thanks again. DAY DATE VENUE TOWN SUNDAY 26TH SEPT'99 GRAND HOTEL LEIGH-ON-SEA MONDAY 1ST NOV'99 BULLINGTON ARMS OXFORD THURSDAY 4TH NOV'99 NEW ROSCOE LEEDS FRIDAY 5TH NOV'99 FIBBERS YORK SATURDAY 6TH NOV'99 THE RIGGER NEWCASTLE-UNDER LYME SUNDAY 7TH NOV'99 VICTORIA INN DERBY WEDNESDAY 10TH NOV'99 LINCOLN IMP SCUNTHOPE THURSDAY 11TH NOV'99 LIMELIGHT CLUB CREWE (Cheshire) FRIDAY 12TH NOV'99 THE LEOPARD DONCASTER SATURDAY 13TH NOV'99 LOUISIANA ROOMS BRISTOL SUNDAY 14TH NOV'99 T.J. O'REILLYS MARLOW BOTTOM,BUCKS FRIDAY 19TH NOV'99 GRAND HOTEL LEIGH-ON-SEA SUNDAY 21ST NOV'99 THE WELLINGTON HULL WEDNESDAY 1ST DEC'99 PRINCESS CHARLOTTES LEICESTER THURSDAY 9TH DEC'99 100 CLUB CENTRAL LONDON SNORKWIND: EX-HAWKWIND MEMBERS BASSIST ALAN DAVEY AND DRUMMER DANNY THOMPSON AND HUW HAVE GOT TOGETHER AGAIN TO PLAY 2 DATES IN OCTOBER: 8TH OCTOBER - THE ORANGE CLUB, ,LONDON W14 9TH OCTOBER - RYE COMMUNITY CENTRE, RYE, SUSSEX LLG are also featured on mp3.com/lloydlangtongroup - this is really working for them as is a good medium for other artists - they have had thousands of visits with thousands of downloads!!! Great stuff. Regards Marion ------- End of forwarded message ------- From jean-charles.moriaud at COMPAQ.COM Tue Sep 21 03:22:44 1999 From: jean-charles.moriaud at COMPAQ.COM (Moriaud, Jean-Charles) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:22:44 +0200 Subject: BOC - Best bass line. Message-ID: Hello, I am starting to learn to play the bass... I was always a great fan of Joe B. and I like how Danny M. has taken over. I particularily like the bass line on "The Revenge of Vera Gemini", "The Vigil", "Divine Wind", "Shooting Shark"... What's your favorite song when it comes to bass? Cheers, Jean-Charles Moriaud BOC Fan from France... From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Sep 21 06:48:50 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:48:50 GMT Subject: HW in Leeds? In-Reply-To: <37e10383.1188849@smtp.freeserve.net> Message-ID: andrew wrote: yeah, Leeds on Monday 1st Nov at the Irish Centre. 'T.B.C.' From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Sep 21 07:29:00 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 07:29:00 EDT Subject: BOC - Best bass line. In-Reply-To: <6F160416EA6CD11181F80000F8068CE6F91BFB@geoexc1.geo.dec.com> Message-ID: > From: "Moriaud, Jean-Charles" > Hello, > > I am starting to learn to play the bass... > > > What's your favorite song when it comes to bass? > I assume we're talking BOC here? Then I'll say TRatB and ETI to start... theo From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 21 07:52:48 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:52:48 +0100 Subject: HW: TOTP2 - the real live track? In-Reply-To: Chris Warburton's message of Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:08:32 +0100 Message-ID: Chris Warburton writes: > On the above-mentioned program tonight they showed the old fil of the guys > doing "Silver Machine"... interesting to see virtually no attempt to sync > the film that they shot with the single...I think there were about 3 shots > where Lemmy's mouth was in step, but a lot more where we heard singing, but > saw the Lemster just leaping around & tharshing his bass. Still wish I'd > had a vid-tape to hand... An interesting possibility is that I may have the live sound from the gig on the Brian Matthews Top of the Pops BBC Transcription disc. Certainly the live version of Silver Machine on the LP does have flute in the background and the video clip showed Turner playing flute. Attempting to match the live sound to the video didn't work. The live version is shorter than the single version by about half a minute. It also doesn't match what's shown. However it remains possible that the BBC clip is from the gig, but either isn't them playing Silver Machine, or the BBC decided that since the video didn't match the sound (Hawkwind were, I believe, the first to refuse to just go to the studio and lip sync?) they'd just edit together what they thought were tasty clips from their recording of the gig. Whatever the case, what would be possible, if someone had the equipment to edit video (anyone got an editing suite on their 'puter yet?) and sync sound to it, would be to take the sound from the live track and sync appropriate clips from the TotP video track to match it. That's unfortunately beyond the tech that I have. Could anyone here give it a try? Maybe the band have contacts who could have a shot at this? Although it's great to finally have the TofP clip, it'd be nice to try to have the video match some live sound from that era as a bonus. > ChrisW FoFP From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Sep 21 07:54:30 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:54:30 +0100 Subject: BOC - Best bass line. In-Reply-To: <83FD6916606@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: > > What's your favorite song when it comes to bass? > > > I assume we're talking BOC here? Then I'll say TRatB and ETI > to start... > Hot Rails to Hell. No contest! --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From greatsunjester at YAHOO.COM Tue Sep 21 08:36:57 1999 From: greatsunjester at YAHOO.COM (Darnell Buffington) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 05:36:57 -0700 Subject: BOC - Best bass line. Message-ID: > > > What's your favorite song when it comes to bass? Its all good. Hardest to play, IMO, is Hot Rails... GSJ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Tue Sep 21 08:45:12 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:45:12 -0400 Subject: BOC - Best bass line. Message-ID: > I was always a great fan of Joe B. and I like how Danny M. has taken over. I > particularily like the bass line on "The Revenge of Vera Gemini", "The > Vigil", "Divine Wind", "Shooting Shark"... > > What's your favorite song when it comes to bass? In terms of BOC songs, there's plenty of great stuff to play along on the bass - some of my favorites include Hot Rails to Hell, Godzilla, Stairway to the Stars, Tattoo Vampire, Dominance and Submission, Cities on Flame, Career of Evil - someday I hope to give "Damaged" a try, but right now that's a bit out of my league. I also enjoy playing a number of songs by the Brain Surgeons - Gimme Nothin', Medusa, My Civilization, Name Your Monster, Time Will Take Care of You, Gun, Overture, St. Vitus Dance, Soul Jive, and The Most Romantic Place in the World. John From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Sep 21 10:06:07 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:06:07 -0400 Subject: BOC: Best bass line. In-Reply-To: <37E77DD7.D5A662B2@mitre.org> Message-ID: Jean-Charles wrote: > I was always a great fan of Joe B. and I like how Danny M. has taken over. I > particularily like the bass line on "The Revenge of Vera Gemini", "The > Vigil", "Divine Wind", "Shooting Shark"... > > What's your favorite song when it comes to bass? I've always loved how the bassline in Stairway plays off the riff. I just wish it were a little louder in the mix! Actually, I wish stairway were totally re-recorded to give it some guts. I mean, c'mon. There's no "umph" at all to those chords. Would have been perfect for Cult Classic. Brian From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Tue Sep 21 09:10:23 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:10:23 -0400 Subject: BOC - Best bass line. In-Reply-To: <37E77DD7.D5A662B2@mitre.org>; from John A. Swartz on Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 08:45:12AM -0400 Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 08:45:12AM -0400, John A. Swartz wrote: > > I was always a great fan of Joe B. and I like how Danny M. has taken over. I > > particularily like the bass line on "The Revenge of Vera Gemini", "The > > Vigil", "Divine Wind", "Shooting Shark"... > > > > What's your favorite song when it comes to bass? > > In terms of BOC songs, there's plenty of great stuff to play along on > the bass - some of my favorites include Hot Rails to Hell, Godzilla, > Stairway to the Stars, Tattoo Vampire, Dominance and Submission, Cities > on Flame, Career of Evil - someday I hope to give "Damaged" a try, but Not being a musician myself, I have no idea if this qualifies as a great bass line or not... but I've always loved the bass riff in "Fireworks". Steve swann at plutonia.com From farmer at ALLENCC.NET Tue Sep 21 05:31:12 1999 From: farmer at ALLENCC.NET (Don Farmer) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:31:12 +0000 Subject: BOC - Best bass line. In-Reply-To: <6F160416EA6CD11181F80000F8068CE6F91BFB@geoexc1.geo.dec.com> Message-ID: > > I was always a great fan of Joe B. and I like how Danny M. has taken over. I > particularily like the bass line on "The Revenge of Vera Gemini", "The > Vigil", "Divine Wind", "Shooting Shark"... > > What's your favorite song when it comes to bass? > Absolutely, it has to be Divine Wind. Don Farmer. From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Tue Sep 21 12:51:33 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 12:51:33 -0400 Subject: BRAIN/SWU: news and things that rock in the night Message-ID: Subject: Yes, we have no bannas! Date: Fri, 10 September 1999 08:06 PM EDT From: AltBouch Message-id: <19990910200638.07752.00010540 at ng-fi1.aol.com> We sold out of Roter videos but we'll make some more I guess because there are orders. But we're expecting to send out PoW orders next week as soon as possible. As usual we've had delays getting stuff from the pressing plant and they forgot things that had to be included so now it's next week. We're doing a small run of Roter vids as well to cover immediate demand within the week. Personally I'm ready to start working on some new tunes. Not to say that PoW isn't great, listening to it compared to our other albums I'd have to say that to my ear it is by far our best sounding album. It even sounds a little commercial despite the fact that that was the last thing on our minds when we recorded it. I'm really curious to know what you'all think when you get to hear it. ---And: Subject: Re: What's the latest? Date: Sat, 18 September 1999 10:52 PM EDT From: AltBouch Message-id: <19990918225222.02194.00003503 at ng-fi1.aol.com> tBS practice went great. Sounded pretty good considering. Some may even say it was an improvement this new cruder sound (others might just attribute to rust) but we all had a gas. We only played the new stuff. Looking forward again to next week. the lyrics of Queens Boulevard...an Underbelly tune (words by Sandy Pearlman - about Meltzer, and music - though you can't hear it - by Donald and Albert)...... Queens Boulevard El Patio's the place the place is no waste and down to El Patio on Queens Boulevard I see the queen of heaven Mother Mary on the gates of Calvery Cemetary Position's just like plastic Mary of that famous song the Queen - also seen by Suzy but being Jewish and knowing movies Suzy thinks horse cannot figure Mary from the gates of Cavelry Cemetary and cross country - another place Brown haired man from his place on the floor inclines his head as if to speak to the lady who was his wife At one time there were three Flieschman's Motorcycle shops. One in Bayside one Flushing one on Queens Boulevard but along came your new Suzukis and old Indians and those bikes just sat waiting to be bought And Old Man Fleischman closed up his shop on Queens Boulevard and cross country - another place Brown haired man from his place on the floor inclines his head as if to speak to the lady who was his wife So early one morning early one day we drove off to Queens Boulevard Meltzer and me in a little open car to paint the queen of the Fauves she'd had sixten guys in two hours each one many times being a real queen - as she was and cross country - another place Brown haired man from his place on the floor inclines his head as if to speak to the lady who was his wife ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Sep 21 12:30:11 1999 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:30:11 PDT Subject: BOC - Best bass line. Message-ID: > > What's your favorite BOC song when it comes to bass? > > Could be no other than Seven Screaming Diz-busters. I love playing that riff, whether it be on guitar or bass. Mmmm-Mmmmm. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Sep 21 13:18:27 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:18:27 +0100 Subject: HW in Leeds? Message-ID: >yeah, Leeds on Monday 1st Nov at the Irish Centre. 'T.B.C.' Seems like an odd one for a one-off. I know it's Ron's old stoomping ground, but a Monday? Is there a tour in the offing? Anyone seen any other signs of gigs? Nick From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Sep 21 15:57:27 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:57:27 EDT Subject: BOC - Best bass line. Message-ID: In a message dated 9/21/99 10:17:12 AM, swann at PLUTONIA.COM writes: << Not being a musician myself, I have no idea if this qualifies as a great bass line or not... but I've always loved the bass riff in "Fireworks". Steve swann at plutonia.com >> =============================== let me get this straight then, comrade ^_~ only 'musicians' are capable of determining what is 'great'. you, not being a 'musician', are not. your 'always loving' the bass riff in 'fireworks' does not necessarily make it 'great' in and of itself, because you=arent=a=musician, therefore your ability to determine what 'qualifies' as 'great' is suspect at best, and invalid in general. ==koff== grasshopper, have you truly 'always loved' the bass riff in 'fireworks'? and if a so-called 'musician' shows up to tell you it's not 'great' will you stop loving that riff? better you should bitch-slap that pompous clown. in terms of >>your<< personal relationship with music if >>you<< love it if >>you<< think it's 'great'...... case closed. luv, a so-called musician "<>" From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Sep 21 18:48:03 1999 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 23:48:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Year 2000 Codename Hawkwind Message-ID: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHHH yeah - it was a mistake. My train was delayed or lost or had wandered off somewhere else for a while so I went for a walk round York until it rediscovered the station. And I passed Track Records. And I went in. And there was a neat little package labelled as above sitting in the Hawkwind bin. Ah heck - I'm a Kollector and as I understood it this was to be the final time for these reissues. In The Beginning - Text of Festival - Space Ritual Vol 2. All the discs brought together in a single package with all the correct track lists containing all the tracks in one final presentation package and that would be it - no more re-releases of these particular tapes, ever. I might be unaware of the finer details of this agreement but I really did think that for this particular occasion they'd at least have corrected the track listings. Not a bit of if! Quite apart from an initial confusion before I realised the discs had been put in the wrong sleeves Disc One turns out to be the reissue of Space Ritual 2 and Disc Two the reissue of In The Beginning. I'd been anticipating this and indeed the track names on Disc Two have definitely been slightly amended but the tracks listed on the cover are still 8 in number while the tracks my CD player recognises are only 6. Worse - the track Came Home has never, ever, existed on ANY of the reissues and yet it has consistently been added to the reissue cover every single time. And yes, it is duly listed on this cover and no - it is not there at all on the disc. Sigh. Discs Three and Four when they come out are supposed to include the missing track from Text of Festival (correctly named I assume...) Somehow I'm beginning to doubt it. However I have to admit that the packaging is stylish and the CD sleeve cover artwork is very elegant indeed. Who is Paul Jukes? His combination of Easter Island and Stonehenge is magnificent - I want more. jill -- ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE Tue Sep 21 19:00:00 1999 From: denis.regenbrecht at UNIBW-MUENCHEN.DE (Denis Regenbrecht) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 01:00:00 +0200 Subject: HW: Year 2000 Codename Hawkwind Message-ID: Hi, I purchased that package, too. I don't own neither "Space Ritual 2" nor "In The Beginning" so I thought it would be a good purchase. But does the sound really improve after the re-mastering compared to the original releases? Or is just a nice trick to sell more copies? D-R From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Sep 21 22:01:45 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 22:01:45 -0400 Subject: BOC: Ezekiel's Wheel? Message-ID: Maybe there's an extraterrestrial/BOC connection after all. Take a close look at the pic on the left from the Chandra X-Ray Observatory. http://www.discovery.com/news/briefs/zoom1.html From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Wed Sep 22 00:05:16 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 23:05:16 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: This is what I do without internet access] Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Bob R Henderschmidt Subject: This is what I do without internet access Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:09:13 -0400 Size: 1554 URL: From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Sep 22 04:13:40 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:13:40 +0100 Subject: HW: Year 2000 Codename Hawkwind In-Reply-To: <37E80B23.1159FE9@theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: In article <37E80B23.1159FE9 at theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk>, Jill writes >However I have to admit that the packaging is stylish and the CD sleeve >cover artwork is very elegant indeed. and I so nearly bought one..... -- Jon From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Wed Sep 22 09:45:07 1999 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:45:07 +0100 Subject: HW: TOTP2 - the real live track? Message-ID: Mike Holmes wries: >Whatever the case, what would be possible, if someone had the equipment >sync sound to it, would be to take the sound from the live track and >sync appropriate clips from the TotP video track to match it. That's the equipment >sync sound to it, would be to take the sound from the live track and >sync appropriate clips from the TotP video track to match it. That's >unfortunately beyond the tech that I have. Could anyone here give it a >try? Maybe the band have contacts who could have a shot at this? Likewise, I would also like to get in touch with anybody who has some decent 'puter-based video editing kit. I filmed two gigs from the Business Trip, one with brilliant Mixing desk sound, and both films are superb quality Hi-8. This is seriously stunning footage which I've been wanting to mix for the past 6 years!!! Similarly, I did a 2-camera Hi-8 shoot of Porcupine Tree when they played at the Garage a couple of years back, and would like to get that sorted too! Anybody got any ideas? Guy Thomas From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Wed Sep 22 09:46:59 1999 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:46:59 +0100 Subject: HW: TOTP2 - the real live track? Message-ID: Forgot to mention that I recorded the TOTP2 repeat from last Saturday, direct onto my Hi-8 deck, (much better quality than VHS) and can make copies for anybody who missed it. Guy From mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM Wed Sep 22 10:32:04 1999 From: mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM (Marc Power) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:32:04 -0400 Subject: HW: TOTP2 - the real live track? Message-ID: Thomas Guy wrote: > > Forgot to mention that I recorded the TOTP2 repeat from last Saturday, > direct onto my Hi-8 deck, (much better quality than VHS) and can make copies > for anybody who missed it. > > Guy NTSC or PAL ? Space! Marc Power -- Send your snail mail address to mpower at exchange.ml.com for your FREE live VHS NTSC video of Heavy Cozmic SpaceRockers B?RN to G?. http://www.borntogo.com/btg.html Really New BtG website http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/borntogo for the Btg Mailing-list http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/spacerockers for all things SpaceRock! From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Wed Sep 22 10:37:30 1999 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:37:30 +0100 Subject: HW: TOTP2 - the real live track? Message-ID: How does a (basic) video editing suite and pro-quality digital studio sound? Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Guy To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 2:45 PM Subject: Re: HW: TOTP2 - the real live track? > Mike Holmes wries: > > >Whatever the case, what would be possible, if someone had the equipment > >sync sound to it, would be to take the sound from the live track and > >sync appropriate clips from the TotP video track to match it. That's > the equipment > >sync sound to it, would be to take the sound from the live track and > >sync appropriate clips from the TotP video track to match it. That's > >unfortunately beyond the tech that I have. Could anyone here give it a > >try? Maybe the band have contacts who could have a shot at this? > > Likewise, I would also like to get in touch with anybody who has some decent > 'puter-based video editing kit. I filmed two gigs from the Business Trip, > one with brilliant Mixing desk sound, and both films are superb quality > Hi-8. This is seriously stunning footage which I've been wanting to mix for > the past 6 years!!! > > Similarly, I did a 2-camera Hi-8 shoot of Porcupine Tree when they played at > the Garage a couple of years back, and would like to get that sorted too! > > Anybody got any ideas? > > > Guy Thomas From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Sep 22 10:55:29 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 10:55:29 -0400 Subject: HW: TOTP2 - the real live track? Message-ID: >Likewise, I would also like to get in touch with anybody who has some decent >'puter-based video editing kit. I filmed two gigs from the Business Trip, >one with brilliant Mixing desk sound, and both films are superb quality >Hi-8. This is seriously stunning footage which I've been wanting to mix for >the past 6 years!!! > >Similarly, I did a 2-camera Hi-8 shoot of Porcupine Tree when they played at >the Garage a couple of years back, and would like to get that sorted too! I used to work for a company called RGB Computer & Video... we made Amilink, a video editing system that ran primarily on Amiga computer systems (worked directly with Video Toaster if you had that). The company is now defunct, still have the software.... but don't have all the boards that go with it, you need at least a pair of time-based correctors for your decks (and they had to be pro decks that could accept TBC) plus a control module for the decks. My Amiga is currently gathering dust in my garage... I don't know whatever became of all our old stock. RGB eventually took its money and bought a company called saf-t-lok and severed all its computer and video connections (they made gun locks hoping that a law would be passed requiring them, but kept bleeding money badly last I heard from them).... It was a pretty nifty program, standard AB/roll suite, could mark all your video spots, control various switchers, it would roll them far back enough to be at full speed, etc. Very professional editing for pretty cheap price.... I wrote a video logging program for maintaining a database of video stuff (scenes, etc.)..... I think maybe 50 sold, total. The company basically died when commodore-amiga declared bankruptcy. We did have a windows version of it... and a mac version that never saw light of day due to some agreement with some other company. Anyway, while I worked there they wanted everyone, even us programmers, to have "hands on" video editing experience so we'd understand better what we were creating.... I took some cameras and filmed a bunch of footage of a friend's band (well, a friend's sister's fiance's band), had fun with that. Primarily S-VHS, some Betacam also. Digital video was just surfacing right at the end there.... "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Wed Sep 22 10:55:48 1999 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 15:55:48 +0100 Subject: HW: TOTP2 - the real live track? Message-ID: PAL !!!! I can copy onto mono-VHS, stereo-8mm, or stereo Hi-8 -----Original Message----- From: Marc Power [mailto:mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM] Sent: 22 September 1999 15:32 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: HW: TOTP2 - the real live track? Thomas Guy wrote: > > Forgot to mention that I recorded the TOTP2 repeat from last Saturday, > direct onto my Hi-8 deck, (much better quality than VHS) and can make copies > for anybody who missed it. > > Guy NTSC or PAL ? Space! Marc Power -- Send your snail mail address to mpower at exchange.ml.com for your FREE live VHS NTSC video of Heavy Cozmic SpaceRockers B?RN to G?. http://www.borntogo.com/btg.html Really New BtG website http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/borntogo for the Btg Mailing-list http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/spacerockers for all things SpaceRock! From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Sep 22 12:19:09 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:19:09 EDT Subject: OFF:HW: 7/70/75 some more Message-ID: hi gang! some weeks back the question "what band did motorhead open for at their first gig?" was being batted around; everyone involved said 'BOC' 'cept me, who was insisting it was hawkwind, and required some kinda hard copy to believe otherwise. well. i found a "master" (as of the early '90s) HW gig list i'd forgotten i had. and while HW was in france the night before and in england the night after, what does it say for 7/20/75? not a thing. i have a good friend w/a friend who e-mailed this 1st gig question straight to lemmy, not that we'll hold our breath awaiting the reply. barring a stunner from lemmy hisself, it does now appear that the unsigned trio with no recordings, led by a guy who'd weeks before gotten the boot from a "major" band because of ==eeek!== a drug bust, was opening for blue oyster cult that fateful night, 7/20/75. i still wonder what the link was... i found my tape of their initial performance and listened to it last night for the first time in quite awhile. thought i'd type on it a bit. the selections on my tape are: *end of andy dunkley intro *adolf speaks **MOTORHEAD <<==much like the HW version **LEAVING HERE <<== w/an extended jam **GOOD MORNING LITTLE SCHOOLGIRL <<== w/an even longer extended jam...the 'song' part has no small resemblance to the toonz of another band yet to release vinyl, the ramones. **LOST JOHNNY <<== as w/"motorhead" **CITY KIDS (cuts off short on my tape) **medley: SILVER MACHINE/WAITING FOR THE MAN/IMPROV/WAITING FOR THE MAN/(SOME '60S SONG I DON'T KNOW) <<== vocals by wallis on "silver machine" (!) and "waiting for the man"....and, somewhere in the improv, a brief snippet of "golden void" (the 2nd progression). the song i dont know reminded me of the swingin medallions or DC5, some sorta party song. there are some moments when the jamming wouldnt find the contributions of Dik Mcdettmar inappropriate, but all the elements of les motorhead classique were, how you say, in the house from the beginning. absolutely. the opening moments of 'silver machine' are missing from my copy; the audience had clamored for it, i wonder how it was introduced. if wallis was singing it, perhaps things werent so cool twixt lemmy and HW that motorhead would've opened for 'em... or would've wanted to, just then. however,the rumor that the show was any sort of disaster is incorrect. wallis has a few sloppy/forgetful moments, but it wasnt a sham gig. none of the way-out-of-sync stuff like on "what's word's worth?" (a/k/a). and they were well received, judging from the applause at the end. not a bad first showing for an opening act...though i hope they dumped that adolf intro soon enough. ====== and so, standing guardedly corrected i am "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Sep 22 12:26:19 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:26:19 EDT Subject: BOC- best bass line Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "adrian brevard" Subject: I'm seeing but not sending... Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:19:40 EDT Size: 1334 URL: From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Sep 22 12:34:10 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 12:34:10 EDT Subject: BOC- best bass line Message-ID: if you didnt wade through the junk on top just now, that was me forwarding something here from adrian brevard... "<>" From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Wed Sep 22 14:44:55 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:44:55 -0400 Subject: OFF:HW: 7/70/75 some more In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 12:19 PM 9/22/99 EDT, you wrote: >barring a stunner from lemmy hisself, it does now appear that the unsigned >trio with no recordings, led by a guy who'd weeks before gotten the boot from >a "major" band because of ==eeek!== a drug bust, was opening for blue oyster >cult that fateful night, 7/20/75. i still wonder what the link was... Wow. The very day I was born seems to have had one heck of a concert goin' on. So two good things happened. In other "historic" news, the 30th Anniversary Remastering of "In the Court of the Crimson King" w/ a gatefold cover and nostalgia booklet has just been released today/yesterday. Only 14 bucks or so! I'm Mad Like Eldridge Cleaver, Jason From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Sep 22 15:09:23 1999 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:09:23 +0100 Subject: HW: Year 2000 Codename Hawkwind Message-ID: Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > > Hi, > > I purchased that package, too. > I don't own neither "Space Ritual 2" nor "In The Beginning" so I thought > it would be a good purchase. But does the sound really improve after the > re-mastering compared to the original releases? Or is just a nice trick > to sell more copies? I've only listened through once but the "digital remastering" appears to have improved the sound by the massive digital factor of about zero. But then I guess the tapes were of the era when muddy sound was about the best you could hope for from a reel-to-reel and, to be honest, I rather like the sonic sloshing around you get from those early tapes. Early 70s Hawkwind, IMO should sound fuzzy so I don't really mind too much. jill -- ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Sep 22 15:46:58 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:46:58 +0100 Subject: HW/OFF:Ace of Spades? Message-ID: I just noticed looking at the Bedouin tour dates on Age's website http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/hawkwind_gigs.html#bedouin that some of the dates have "Ace of Spades" in brackets. In this a Motorhead tribute band supporting him or is Alan doing a spot of moonlighting as a Motorhead tribute band? The Army & Navy in Chelmsford, which is one of these dates, usually has pretty much nothing but tribute bands on. Can anyone cast any light on this? Nick From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Sep 22 16:53:59 1999 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:53:59 EDT Subject: Bedouin gigs Message-ID: In a message dated 99-09-19 13:25:18 EDT, you write: << probably it's a mix of ex-hawkwind members like huw lloyd langton, alan, danny and others famous guests. >> Sounds like a winner to me. regards, Bill From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Sep 22 19:01:36 1999 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trevor thoms) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:01:36 PDT Subject: INNER CITY TREV Message-ID: Judge Trev is playing a free solo acoustic gig at the Bird Cage pub (58 Stamford Hill, London N16) on Friday 1st Oct. The set will include C/W, R&R, 60's and 70's standards, with material from his forthcoming album, "The Lysergic Parables"! Love, Trev ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Sep 23 04:50:15 1999 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:50:15 +0100 Subject: HW/OFF:Ace of Spades? Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Lee To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 8:46 PM Subject: HW/OFF:Ace of Spades? > I just noticed looking at the Bedouin tour dates on Age's website > http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/hawkwind_gigs.html#bedouin > > that some of the dates have "Ace of Spades" in brackets. In this a > Motorhead tribute band supporting him or is Alan doing a spot of > moonlighting as a Motorhead tribute band? The Army & Navy in Chelmsford, > which is one of these dates, usually has pretty much nothing but tribute > bands on. Can anyone cast any light on this? > It's Alan, Danny and new bloke Glenn doing a Motothead tribute band. Alan's bass has some of Lemmy's pickups in it and sounds pretty good. My ears were only ringing for one day though, unlike when I last saw Motorhead. Took nearly a week that time... Cheers, Neil From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Thu Sep 23 08:36:26 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:36:26 -0400 Subject: BOC: Queen's Boulevard Message-ID: > the lyrics of Queens Boulevard...an Underbelly > tune (words by Sandy Pearlman - about Meltzer, and music - though you can't > hear it - by Donald and Albert)...... (lyrics snipped) Uh, where's the line about "Diz Dust Massage"? As pointed out in the BOC Fanclub newsletter, "Morning Final", this was the first appearance in BOC lyrics of the term "Diz" - and the phrase "Diz Dust Massage" referred to ... well, I should keep this forum "family-oriented"... ;-) John From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Thu Sep 23 08:48:37 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:48:37 -0400 Subject: BOC- best bass line Message-ID: Adrian writes: > I'd vote Vera Gemini, Subhuman (live version from Feet/Knees), John Rodger's > flailing on the Imaginos version of Astronomy, Monsters, ETI > See You In Black. I believe Kenny Aaronson played most of the bass parts on Imaginos. That was to me perhaps the second most odd thing when I first bought the album. The first most odd thing was of course Albert's name all over the place, and the second oddest thing was that while Joe Bouchard was listed prominently as being in "the band" (as was Albert), he did not play bass. Of course, we now know more of the real story... John From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Sep 23 11:25:12 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 11:25:12 EDT Subject: Fwd: Not Rodgers? Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "adrian brevard" Subject: Not Rodgers? Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:50:58 EDT Size: 1414 URL: From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu Sep 23 12:30:51 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 17:30:51 +0100 Subject: HW/OFF:Ace of Spades? Message-ID: >It's Alan, Danny and new bloke Glenn doing a Motothead tribute band. Alan's >bass has some of Lemmy's pickups in it and sounds pretty good. My ears were >only ringing for one day though, unlike when I last saw Motorhead. Took >nearly a week that time... > >Cheers, > >Neil Is this as well as Bedouin sets at those dates or instead of? Has Sean left of is 'new bloke Glenn' only for the Motorhead stuff? Sorry to pester but I'm interested to know. Nick From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Sep 23 13:42:23 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:42:23 +0100 Subject: OFF: change of address Message-ID: Dear All, just sorting out the tape I should long since have sent on, it occurs to me that whoever's sending a tape to me probably needs my new address... I'm now at: 11 Manhattan Drive, Cambridge, CB4 1JL, ENGLAND. And for those who might be interested, the phone number is 01223 741219, and I'm temporarily out of academia at the close of my masters and applying for research jobs etc. My music budget is therefore uncomfortably constrained and my internet access sporadic, but I'm _still_ _here_... Yours, Jon From jgoran at TELEBOT.COM Thu Sep 23 14:41:48 1999 From: jgoran at TELEBOT.COM (Goran Janicijevic) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 20:41:48 +0200 Subject: Trepanation/trickeration In-Reply-To: <199909141253.IAA05010@issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us> Message-ID: Andrew A. Apold wrote in <199909141253.IAA05010 at issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us>: >>>From _Eccentric Lives & Peculiar Notions_ by John Michell. > > THE PEOPLE WITH HOLES IN THEIR HEADS This is from http://www.urbanlegends.com/drugs/trepanation.html. The site www.urbanlegends.com, and is highly recommended for explaining a lot of issues, like Self-combustion, Hitler's vegetarianism, Bill Gates' "sufficient 640 kB", Zappa's faeces consumption, Disney's frozen corpse, VW Beetle origins, Betamax failure vs. VHS, etc., etc. -- Goran From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Sep 23 19:05:41 1999 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 00:05:41 +0100 Subject: Ace of Spades? Message-ID: > > Is this as well as Bedouin sets at those dates or instead of? Has Sean left > of is 'new bloke Glenn' only for the Motorhead stuff? Sorry to pester but > I'm interested to know. > > Nick Glenn was originally just for the Motorhead stuff, but then problems with Sean making the last 2 gigs meant that he left and Glenn stepped in to cover the Bedouin stuff too. So Glenn will be now for both the Bedouin sets and the Ace of Spades sets. Cheers, Neil From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Thu Sep 23 19:51:17 1999 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:51:17 -0400 Subject: Bedouin Message-ID: Has anyone heard if there is talk of Bedouin doing any sort of tour of the U.S.? It's been along time Since I've seen Alan Davey in the States. Sure would be great to see him again. Dr. Ductor -----Original Message----- From: Neil Ward [SMTP:Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 1999 4:06 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: Ace of Spades? > > Is this as well as Bedouin sets at those dates or instead of? Has Sean left > of is 'new bloke Glenn' only for the Motorhead stuff? Sorry to pester but > I'm interested to know. > > Nick Glenn was originally just for the Motorhead stuff, but then problems with Sean making the last 2 gigs meant that he left and Glenn stepped in to cover the Bedouin stuff too. So Glenn will be now for both the Bedouin sets and the Ace of Spades sets. Cheers, Neil From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sat Sep 25 07:00:37 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 12:00:37 +0100 Subject: OFF: TAPE: re:change of address In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 18:42 23.09.1999 +0100, Jon wrote: > Dear All, > just sorting out the tape I should long since have sent >on, it occurs to me that whoever's sending a tape to me probably needs my >new address... I'm now at: > Which reminds me, has the tape system stalled? I sent Jon's tape (the 2nd I received) off to James in Texas a couple of weeks back, but I still haven't got another one through...Rus, have you had a 3rd yet? ChrisW "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Fri Sep 24 07:19:42 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 07:19:42 -0400 Subject: TAPE: re:change of address Message-ID: Rus Sez: Nope, only got one so far - sent you two so far mine and "Electric Wizard, et al." > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Warburton [SMTP:desdinova at EARTHLING.NET] > Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 7:01 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: OFF: TAPE: re:change of address > > At 18:42 23.09.1999 +0100, Jon wrote: > > Dear All, > > just sorting out the tape I should long since have sent > >on, it occurs to me that whoever's sending a tape to me probably needs my > >new address... I'm now at: > > > > Which reminds me, has the tape system stalled? I sent Jon's tape (the 2nd > I received) off to James in Texas a couple of weeks back, but I still > haven't got another one through...Rus, have you had a 3rd yet? > > ChrisW > "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - > Bierce From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Sep 24 08:12:43 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:12:43 +0100 Subject: HW: Posters Message-ID: I probably do have more money than sense, but I just spent ?75 having two old HW posters framed - Barney classics, both of them, ROADHAWKS and LOVE & PEACE, which used to be on my wall when I was a student. Visitors to my humble abode can envy away (at least as soon as I get them back from the framers). Not sure what to do with the Motorhead ON PAROLE poster though. :) --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Sep 24 09:55:50 1999 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (rich-l) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:55:50 +0000 Subject: HW: Posters Message-ID: Give it to me as a housewarming present? ;-) Cheers, Rich. ---------- >From: Andy Gilham >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Subject: HW: Posters >Date: Fri, Sep 24, 1999, 12:12 pm > > I probably do have more money than sense, but I just spent ?75 having two > old HW posters framed - Barney classics, both of them, ROADHAWKS and LOVE & > PEACE, which used to be on my wall when I was a student. > > Visitors to my humble abode can envy away (at least as soon as I get them > back from the framers). > > Not sure what to do with the Motorhead ON PAROLE poster though. :) > > --Andy > > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Fri Sep 24 09:16:08 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 23:16:08 +1000 Subject: NIK: Nik T & Sphynx Site Message-ID: Hi all, There's a new set of pages dedicated to Nik Turner/Sphynx at Jezaland: http://www.jezaland.demon.co.uk/NikTurner.htm S. -- sonique at sonique.net From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Sep 24 09:25:40 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:25:40 +0100 Subject: HW: Posters In-Reply-To: <199909241254.NAA01114@em1.telegraph.co.uk> Message-ID: I meant like, where to hang it! :) I've also found that I've still got a BOC poster which, back in 1978, I thought was the coolest thing going - white on black, big symbol, and BLVE ?YSTER CVLT written below. And that's all. Might be a bit gauche in 1999 though. --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Sep 24 10:38:48 1999 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (rich-l) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:38:48 +0000 Subject: HW: Posters Message-ID: Cool! :-) Cheers, Rich. > > I've also found that I've still got a BOC poster which, back in 1978, I > thought was the coolest thing going - white on black, big symbol, and BLVE > ?YSTER CVLT written below. And that's all. Might be a bit gauche in 1999 > though. > From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 23 10:25:41 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:25:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Source of cover versions Message-ID: Does anyone know where the following cover versions are taken from? (E.g. the name of an album by the band concerned -- not the original HW track). Last year I put together an "Alternate history of Hawkwind" from the best of the Hawkwind Covers All tapes and Assassins of Silence, but I'm not sure where all the tracks came from. Hurry On Sundown, by Finally Balanced. (Was this on Assassins of Silence?) Assault and Battery/The Golden Void, by Dark Sun (Was this recorded specially for Hawkwind Covers All?) The Right Stuff, by Pressurehed (I know this was on an album, but which?) Spirit of the Age, by Verge Angels of Death, by The Moor Silver Machine, by Alien Sex Fiend Helvetiin, by Nomad Maddog and the Four Horsemen. Thanks for any help. Dave. From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Sep 24 11:36:06 1999 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (rich-l) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 15:36:06 +0000 Subject: HW: Source of cover versions Message-ID: Thank God you never heard Night Of The Hawks by Tangled Skein... :-) Cheers, Rich. ---------- >From: Dave Berry >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Subject: HW: Source of cover versions >Date: Thu, Sep 23, 1999, 2:25 pm > > Does anyone know where the following cover versions are taken from? (E.g. > the name of an album by the band concerned -- not the original HW track). > Last year I put together an "Alternate history of Hawkwind" from the best > of the Hawkwind Covers All tapes and Assassins of Silence, but I'm not sure > where all the tracks came from. > > Hurry On Sundown, by Finally Balanced. (Was this on Assassins of Silence?) > Assault and Battery/The Golden Void, by Dark Sun (Was this recorded > specially for Hawkwind Covers All?) > The Right Stuff, by Pressurehed (I know this was on an album, but which?) > Spirit of the Age, by Verge > Angels of Death, by The Moor > Silver Machine, by Alien Sex Fiend > Helvetiin, by Nomad Maddog and the Four Horsemen. > > Thanks for any help. > > Dave. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Sep 24 11:00:30 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 11:00:30 EDT Subject: HW: Source of cover versions Message-ID: In a message dated 9/24/99 10:40:40 AM, rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM writes: << Hurry On Sundown, by Finally Balanced. (Was this on Assassins of Silence?) >> naw, it's on their own cd produced/engineered by (wait for it) chris bruce leastwise i dont think it was =also= on assassins etc... " "<>" From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Sep 24 10:25:26 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 10:25:26 -0400 Subject: HW: Source of cover versions Message-ID: Dave asked... >The Right Stuff, by Pressurehed (I know this was on an album, but which?) Sudden Vertigo. Keith H. (FAA) ObCD: Colorstar - Heavenicetrip P.S. I've heard that there will be a 'Hawkwind pastiche' piece added onto the upcoming reissue of Porcupine Tree's 'Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape.' Does anyone know exactly what this might be? I've got one of the original YHD CDs, and wonder if it's worth it to get this new one as well. From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Fri Sep 24 11:55:48 1999 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 08:55:48 -0700 Subject: HW: Source of cover versions (Pressurehed) Message-ID: On Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:25:41 Dave Berry wrote: >Does anyone know where the following cover versions are taken from? >The Right Stuff, by Pressurehed (I know this was on an album, but which?) That's on _Sudden Vertigo_, which I just got! Pretty good CD (especially "Slo Blo"), but I prefer _Explaining the Unexplained_. TRS by Pressurehed also appears on _HW F&R Vol 6 - Cosmic Travellers_. MWood NP: Bjorn Lynne: _Wizard of the Winds_ --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Sep 24 14:38:58 1999 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 19:38:58 +0100 Subject: OFF: PTree (was Re: HW: Source of cover versions) Message-ID: Keith Henderson wrote: > > P.S. I've heard that there will be a 'Hawkwind pastiche' piece added onto > the upcoming reissue of Porcupine Tree's 'Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape.' Does > anyone know exactly what this might be? I've got one of the original YHD > CDs, and wonder if it's worth it to get this new one as well. Are you still on the Porcupine Tree list? I abandoned it some time ago. Has anything interesting come up recently? Just curious jill -- ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Fri Sep 24 09:38:46 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:38:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Posters In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:25:40 BST." Message-ID: > I meant like, where to hang it! :) > > I've also found that I've still got a BOC poster which, back in 1978, I > thought was the coolest thing going - white on black, big symbol, and BLVE > ?YSTER CVLT written below. And that's all. Might be a bit gauche in 1999 > though. I would give that a good home !! The only BOC poster I have is the horseman from SEE for the tour when they were supported by Aldo Nova. Tim Ob Ob *Ob* CD: Unida, _Coping with the Urban Coyote_ From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Fri Sep 24 14:19:40 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 14:19:40 -0400 Subject: BOC - Best bass line. In-Reply-To: <988fe4b2.25193d27@aol.com>; from DASLUD@AOL.COM on Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 03:57:27PM -0400 Message-ID: On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 03:57:27PM -0400, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > let me get this straight then, comrade ^_~ > > only 'musicians' are capable of determining what is 'great'. > you, not being a 'musician', are not. [...] > grasshopper, have you truly 'always loved' the bass riff in 'fireworks'? > and if a so-called 'musician' shows up to tell you it's not 'great' > will you stop loving that riff? Nope. Whether it's great and whether I love it are two essentially unrelated properties. I don't know much about the bass, and things that sounds "great" to me might be mindlessly simplistic to someone who knows the instrument. But my opinions really aren't in any need of bolstering, as I'm sure anyone who's read this list for long can tell you. ;-) Steve swann at plutonia.com From dhira.lalita at VIRGIN.NET Fri Sep 24 16:06:35 1999 From: dhira.lalita at VIRGIN.NET (Dhira Lalita) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 21:06:35 +0100 Subject: BOC CD Message-ID: Hi chaps, I am quite new to BOC. I am of limited funds and cannot afford limitless cd's. So can anyone please recommend some BOC for me to be getting on with, thanks, DL -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From novadrive at HOME.COM Fri Sep 24 16:23:47 1999 From: novadrive at HOME.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 13:23:47 -0700 Subject: Posters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Try getting a "Brixton Academy: 12 Hours of Pyschedelic Madness" poster framed. AARRRRRGGGGHHHHHH! Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu < http://members.home.net/novadrive/> > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Andy Gilham > Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 5:13 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: HW: Posters > > > I probably do have more money than sense, but I just spent ?75 having two > old HW posters framed - Barney classics, both of them, ROADHAWKS > and LOVE & > PEACE, which used to be on my wall when I was a student. > > Visitors to my humble abode can envy away (at least as soon as I get them > back from the framers). > > Not sure what to do with the Motorhead ON PAROLE poster though. :) > > --Andy > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Sep 24 16:44:25 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:44:25 -0400 Subject: BOC CD Message-ID: >Hi chaps, > >I am quite new to BOC. I am of limited funds and cannot afford limitless cd's. So can anyone please recommend some BOC for me to be getting on with, thanks, All of them. Okay, okay, if you're just sampling and want to get a good overview, Workshop of the Telescopes 2-cd set has most of the good stuff, better than any other compilation. You can't go wrong with the recently remastered 2-cd set of BOC and Tyranny&Mutation either. Or Secret Treaties, or Cultosaurus Erectus, or Imaginos, or... Heaven Forbid, or.... you get the idea. "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Fri Sep 24 16:10:21 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:10:21 -0400 Subject: HW: Posters Message-ID: I once had a poster in which five members stood at the front, all wailing on guitars. Oddly the only member whose face and posture I can remember is Alan L. I remember that he looked like he was about to explode in a ball of purple fire! I also had a HUGE promo poster of ETL. And a picture disc of BFY with FT on the back... Boy I miss those days... MY favorite Bass... Golden Age of Leather... or maybe Tenderloin.... Opposites... RJ -----Original Message----- From: bart To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Friday, September 24, 1999 2:43 PM Subject: Re: HW: Posters > I meant like, where to hang it! :) > > I've also found that I've still got a BOC poster which, back in 1978, I > thought was the coolest thing going - white on black, big symbol, and BLVE > VYSTER CVLT written below. And that's all. Might be a bit gauche in 1999 > though. I would give that a good home !! The only BOC poster I have is the horseman from SEE for the tour when they were supported by Aldo Nova. Tim Ob Ob *Ob* CD: Unida, _Coping with the Urban Coyote_ From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Fri Sep 24 16:50:42 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 21:50:42 +0100 Subject: HW: Sci fi con. Message-ID: Did you see Watchdog tonight about the sci-fi convention (Avalon) that we were meant to be playing? They are fighting for the money of the sci-fi fans. They should be fighting for the Hawkwind fans too. They have found Sean Clark. I phoned them to tell them this. Maybe anyone who is owed money should phone too. Kris (&Hawkwind) From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Fri Sep 24 16:38:38 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:38:38 -0400 Subject: BOC CD Message-ID: Start with Extraterestrial Live, IMO. Great tracks, well done. And usually in the bargain bins to boot. My favorite studio albums are Agents of Fortune and Spectres. But I love them ALL. RJ -----Original Message----- From: Dhira Lalita To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Friday, September 24, 1999 4:22 PM Subject: BOC CD Hi chaps, I am quite new to BOC. I am of limited funds and cannot afford limitless cd's. So can anyone please recommend some BOC for me to be getting on with, thanks, DL From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Fri Sep 24 17:43:52 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:43:52 -0400 Subject: BOC CD In-Reply-To: <001101bf06cc$c85b87c0$8da58fcc@sprawl> Message-ID: For cost, the Sony 3 pack of BOC,Tyrrany and Mutation and Secret Treaties can't be beat. Though the MoFI is EXCELLENT remastering, the CD releases of the first two aren't completely horrible. After all You do get a bigger picture of the cool cover drawings on the old 'uns. After that, ETL or Ony Your Feet or On Your Knees are good for number of tunes per dollar spent. The fact they're both live is a plus (THough ETL does suffer from being A. Bouchardless on all but 2 tracks. And Hot Rails to Hell is just plain better on On Your Feet. And there's no Buck's Boogie on ETL. And There is the cool Godzilla intro ruined by a bleep on ETL. I think I'll stop picking on ETL now. I need Piece of Work!!!) Buying the "In the Court of the Crimson King" remaster w/gatefold cover, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Sep 24 17:00:03 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:00:03 -0400 Subject: OFF: Marillion in Europe etc. Message-ID: Hi Folks... Does anybody still like this band? I thought Radiation was crap, but who knows what the masses think? Of course, I thought Fish's Raingods with Zippos was crap too, so there's twice as much crap out there from one original source. Lucky us! :) Sometimes I cheer on reunions for just this very reason!! Half (or sometimes a third!) as many lousy albums. (I should say that I thought Sunsets on Empire was quite excellent, so *sometimes* one or the other comes through...of course, Steve Wilson was probably the *real* reason for that success.) Marillion on tour... NOVEMBER (UK) 15 Newport/Bristol/Cardiff, TBC 16 Dudley, JB's 17 Nottingham, Rock City 18 Manchester, Academy 20 London, Shepherds Bush Empire (HOLLAND) 22 Groningen, Oosterpoort 23 Tilburg, 013 24 Enschede, Music Centre 25 Amsterdam, Paradiso (GERMANY) 27 Hamburg, Docks 28 Berlin, Columbiahalle 29 Koln, E-Werk 30 Stuttgart, Longhorn December 02 Dresden, Schlachthof 03 TBC 04 Mannheim, Capitol Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Did anyone go to see the Deep Purple concert in the Royal Albert Hall?? As much of a fan of DP that I am (and have been since I was just able to walk), I'm not really sure that there was a point to doing this rock band w/ orchestra thing ONE MORE TIME! Haven't the Moody Blues already beaten this to death by now? P.P.S. Queensryche's going out on tour now...anybody got the new album, Q2K? Is it any damn good? I imagine it would have to be different at least, now that DeGarmo has split. P.P.P.S. Yeah, Jill, I'm still on PT Trans...and no, nothing of any consequence being discussed (disgust?). Mainly stuff about the Church and the Flaming Lips. I hardly know a thing about either. P.P.P.P.S. Any more word on that Leeds HW date? Is it real? Or is it Memorex? P.P.P.P.P.S. I saw the Salamander/P.U./Overhang Party show in Pgh, PA. Man, Salamander is a really cool space-improv group...Old Mr. Jones (or whatever it's called) from Red Mantra is an awesome tune (very Space Ritual-esque, but without the VCS3's or whatever) and it kicked live. Musta been 20 min. or more. I'll have to write up some sort of review soon, so I'll tell you more about it later. P.P.P.P.P.P.S. I've run out of post-scripts, sorry. From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sat Sep 25 17:54:13 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 22:54:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Posters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 14:25 24.09.1999 +0100, you wrote: >I meant like, where to hang it! :) > >I've also found that I've still got a BOC poster which, back in 1978, I >thought was the coolest thing going - white on black, big symbol, and BLVE >?YSTER CVLT written below. And that's all. Might be a bit gauche in 1999 >though. > > >--Andy > >mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > Naaahh...still waaay coool...I used to have the one from the first tour with just the name in OYFOOYK script! ChrisW "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sat Sep 25 18:49:48 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 23:49:48 +0100 Subject: OFF: Marillion in Europe etc. In-Reply-To: <199909242215.SAA09362@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: At 17:00 24.09.1999 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Folks... > >Does anybody still like this band? I thought Radiation was crap, but who >knows what the masses think? Of course, I thought Fish's Raingods with >Zippos was crap too, so there's twice as much crap out there from one >original source. Lucky us! :) Sometimes I cheer on reunions for just this >very reason!! Half (or sometimes a third!) as many lousy albums. > >(I should say that I thought Sunsets on Empire was quite excellent, so >*sometimes* one or the other comes through...of course, Steve Wilson was >probably the *real* reason for that success.) Me, I never liked them, thought they gave rock (hah!) music a bad name...pompous, derivative, recycled & regurgitated...one of the many reasons why I spent most of the '80s listening to various kinds of (shhhh!) jazz. (ducks anticipating wall of flame) but that's just MHO, I'm sure they must have some redeeming features. 8-{P> >P.S. Did anyone go to see the Deep Purple concert in the Royal Albert >Hall?? As much of a fan of DP that I am (and have been since I was just >able to walk), I'm not really sure that there was a point to doing this rock >band w/ orchestra thing ONE MORE TIME! Haven't the Moody Blues already >beaten this to death by now? I don't know about the Moodys - gave up on them by 7th sojourn, but it seems strange to me that DP were revisiting what most people consider to be their biggest mistake. >P.P.S. Queensryche's going out on tour now...anybody got the new album, >Q2K? Is it any damn good? I imagine it would have to be different at >least, now that DeGarmo has split. I'm curious too as quite a fan of "Operation Mindcrime" & "Empire" ChrisW - In "sad bastard at home on Friday night" mode! "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Fri Sep 24 19:48:51 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 19:48:51 -0400 Subject: OFF: Deep Purple: Concerto for Group and Orchestra In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990925234948.00828e60@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: >>P.S. Did anyone go to see the Deep Purple concert in the Royal Albert >>Hall?? As much of a fan of DP that I am (and have been since I was just >>able to walk), I'm not really sure that there was a point to doing this rock >>band w/ orchestra thing ONE MORE TIME! Haven't the Moody Blues already >>beaten this to death by now? > >I don't know about the Moodys - gave up on them by 7th sojourn, but it >seems strange to me that DP were revisiting what most people consider to be >their biggest mistake. Whether or not it was a mistake is is question best left for other things, but the original concert did do a great deal to promote the fact that Deep Purple existed and 2. it had a new lineup and 3. they weren't doing "Hush" and Beatles covers anymore. The biggest difference between the Moody's use of orchestra and DP was the fat that the Moody Blues just grafted it on to songs the band had cooked up. The horror of such a practice is all too evident on "Live at Red Rocks." Remember, the mellotron was the main "symphonic" impetus in Days of Future Past, not a bonafide symphony. On the other hand, the Royal Albert Hall Concert was the performance of an actual piece of music for both rock group and the orchestra written by Hammondmaster Jon Lord.Classical bigwig Malcolm Arnold did the conducting for the event then (the Malcolm Arnold website has a good sized page about the oprccasion, if you're dying to know more about the classical goings on of the gig) Being a fan of the Conerto myself, I would have been very interested to hear how the performance went... specially with Steve Morse in the role of Strat player (Q: does he play strat only? a la Blackmore? (Although Richie used to play Gibson on the first 3 DP LPs)) As to whether Mssr. Lord managed to integrate one with the other, ehhh the verdict safely was "not really." When the band was allowed to rock out, they did. When they did a cooool blues section in Movement 2, it was sufficiently bluesy w/ good Gillan vox (at least back on the original LP). Movement 3 is the drummers movement, Ian Paice gets his own drum break... its a fast paced "rocker" of a movement w/ orchestra bouncing along appropriately. All in all, being there (then and now) would probably be something very unique one would remember. I know the BBC taped the original show for TV broadcast, though abridged. Curious to know whether the same PR effort went into this incarnation. That's enough of Deep Purple for now. Wring That Neck (from the 1970 "In Concert" CD), Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Fri Sep 24 21:02:27 1999 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 02:02:27 +0100 Subject: HW: TOTP video Message-ID: http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~toaster/HWTOTP72.avi Goodness gracious me! How did that get there? 15M, 320x240 with a compressed 8bit audio. The audio I took from the Stasis CD, re-syncing with the video from last week's broadcast. The sync on *that* was dodgy, the way I've done it is equally questionable, but I've padded a few seconds at the beggining and the result is a full 4:40 vid of Silver Machine. I have a couple of smaller (6M, and 10M) versions, of reduced quality, but no space for them. Could conceivably send to someone else on this list for them to upload to www. Additionally, I intend to assemble a variety of versions to CD which if required could be vined around the list. This requires an Intel i263 CODEC, one which is not necessarily found on all PCs so you might need to download CODEC also from: http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~toaster/codinstl.exe This may not be the same CODEC as currently available from the Intel site ... if you have a different version of the CODEC I believe you worst you may suffer is video but no audio (or vice-versa?? 8-/ ) I'll check e-mail tomorrow morning to see if anyone has picked up on any problems with these files ... but I have no more webspace so if further files would be needed I doubt I can offer soultions. Fingers crossed. Alasdair -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Fri Sep 24 22:09:54 1999 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 21:09:54 -0500 Subject: HW: TOTP video Message-ID: Looks great. Looks good enough to dump out to a vcr. thanks From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Sep 24 22:11:54 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 22:11:54 -0400 Subject: HW: TOTP video In-Reply-To: <199909250103.CAA11699@camelot.netcom.net.uk> Message-ID: On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Alasdair Macdonald wrote: => http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~toaster/HWTOTP72.avi => => Goodness gracious me! How did that get there? => => 15M, 320x240 with a compressed 8bit audio. The audio I took from => the Stasis CD, re-syncing with the video from last week's => broadcast. The sync on *that* was dodgy, the way I've done it is => equally questionable, but I've padded a few seconds at the => beggining and the result is a full 4:40 vid of Silver Machine. => => I have a couple of smaller (6M, and 10M) versions, of reduced => quality, but no space for them. Could conceivably send to someone => else on this list for them to upload to www. Additionally, I intend to => assemble a variety of versions to CD which if required could be => vined around the list. => => This requires an Intel i263 CODEC, one which is not necessarily => found on all PCs so you might need to download CODEC also from: If someone converts this to a format I can play (e.g., MPEG), I have the disc space to host it for others to download. Cheers, Paul. NP: Roy Bookbinder, _Travelin' Man_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From iscladoc at IDIR.NET Sat Sep 25 01:20:40 1999 From: iscladoc at IDIR.NET (Allan T Grohe Jr) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 00:20:40 -0500 Subject: HW: Source of cover versions In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990923151918.009594e0@pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Dave Berry wrote: > Does anyone know where the following cover versions are taken from? > (E.g. the name of an album by the band concerned -- not the original HW > track). Last year I put together an "Alternate history of Hawkwind" > from the best of the Hawkwind Covers All tapes and Assassins of Silence, > but I'm not sure where all the tracks came from. I just extracted all 58 emails in my covers folder into a file if you want it Dave? I thought they were credited in Chuck's tape sleeves too? Allan. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allan T. Grohe, Jr. Visit the Dreaming City iscladoc at idir.net http://www.rpg.net/ehp/imrryr If you want to view paradise / simply look around and view it Anything you want to, do it / Want to change the world there's nothing to it . . . . -- "Pure Imagination" from _Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory_ From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Sep 25 06:13:59 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 06:13:59 EDT Subject: OFF: Deep Purple: Concerto for Group and Orchestra Message-ID: from bob mayo: ============= concerto stuff: my info is from my 'invitation' (being a member of the dpas): this latest concerto performance is not a repeat of the 1st; some of the arnold/lord stuff is performed in addition to some dp songs w/orchestra added, and other material as well with many notable (though not named in my invite/hype) guest stars to appear. the reason they're doing it again is that the proceeds go to charity; which one i don't recall. i consider the concerto a failed experiment; those interested in the concept should check out the dp/malcom arnold live recording of john lord's GEMINI SUITE from 1970 (1993 rpm records uk). it wipes the floor w/concerto in sound quality, performance, band/orchestral integration, and unlike the concerto then, it was performed live only once. it is truly outstanding and is everything the concerto should have been. the tapes were not released until '93, insuring that the one-time-only (but superior) gemini suite would not be the orch/band meeting that the history remembers. a shame. bobm From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Sep 25 06:20:44 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 06:20:44 EDT Subject: OFF: Marillion in Europe etc. Message-ID: In a message dated 9/24/99 6:15:29 PM, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: << Does anybody still like this band? >> never did like 'em; considered them, like, a sub-gabriel era genesis, but points from me for mentioning 'em. supper's ready "<>" From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sat Sep 25 07:15:01 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 12:15:01 +0100 Subject: OFF: Deep Purple: Concerto for Group and Orchestra Message-ID: I'll let you know when I get back 'cos it hasn't happened yet. Deep Purple Concerto For Group & Orchestra (+ special guests) Royal Albert Hall, London 25 & 26 September The second Deep Purple Appreciation Society convention will be held at Imperial College, London (5 mins from Albert Hall) on the afternoon of 26 September, slap in the middle of Purples 2 historic gigs. Tickets are ?6.50 each (restricted to DPAS members + guest). Ticket details and membership details can be found at http://www.purplepeople.co.uk NP Iced Earth - Something Wicked This Way Comes Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com alternate url: http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "The way I keep in touch with the world is very gingerly, because the world touches too hard" Don Van Vliet From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Sep 25 08:14:56 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 13:14:56 +0100 Subject: HW: Source of cover versions In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990923151918.009594e0@pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <4.1.19990923151918.009594e0 at pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk>, Dave Berry writes > >Helvetiin, by Nomad Maddog and the Four Horsemen. I had no idea what Helvetiin meant till I was absently-mindedly singing it in the kitchen, while a Finnish friend of my wife's was visiting........ -- Jon From drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Sep 25 09:05:55 1999 From: drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM (Torgo Sedler) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 06:05:55 PDT Subject: OFF: Q2K Message-ID: Hi folks...... Keith Henderson asked......... >P.P.S.? Queensryche's going out on tour now...anybody got the new album, Q2K?? Is it any damn good?? I imagine it would have to be different at least, now that DeGarmo has split. I have Q2K, and it's all I have listened to for a week straight now. Personally, I think it is one of their best albums. Kelly Gray is the new guitarist, and he does indeed give the band a much different feel. On a first quick listen this album sounds much like their last one "Hear in the now frontier", but after you get your teeth into in they couldn't be more different. It's hard to describe all of the subtle changes on this album. The easiest way is to compare the new sound to KING'S X. The infamous AB and I have been discussing this and we agree that it almost sounds like Queensryche is trying to sound more like them. The album is a nice mix of hard and heavy (more so than their last album) with alot of "trippy" sounding stuff mixed in. It has a few power ballads that start soft and then build. Another band that comes to mind is TEA PARTY. I always thought TEA PARTY sounded like a real spacey Queensryche. Q2K in some places reminds me of this, as it sounds closer to TEA PARTY than any other release. The new sound would have worked nicely on a concept effort much like PROMISED LAND or the phenomenal OPERATION:MINDCRIME, but sadly Q2K is not along those lines. There is a well written song by song breakdown review of the album on the Queensryche Campaign Web site (www.queensryche.com), if you are interested in picking up the album I highly recommend reading it. I can't get enough Queensryche these days, and I think it's going to take something like... oh I don't know......a new BRAIN SURGEONS ALBUM maybe to dislodge it from my player. Back into the lurkers cave with me. Back!! Back I say!!!! Torgo ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Sep 25 10:44:04 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 10:44:04 EDT Subject: HW: Source of cover versions Message-ID: In a message dated 9/25/99 8:48:53 AM, jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK writes: << I had no idea what Helvetiin meant till I was absently-mindedly singing it in the kitchen, while a Finnish friend of my wife's was visiting........ >> ========= and? AND? "<>" From moonglum at ECLIPSE.NET Sat Sep 25 10:58:59 1999 From: moonglum at ECLIPSE.NET (Julie) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 10:58:59 -0400 Subject: OT: Queensryche In-Reply-To: <199909250902.FAA24243@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: I have Q2K by Quuensryche, and like it a hell of a lot better than their last album Hear in the Now Frontier. It's a bit heavier, a tough more imaginative and a smidge more creative. It's no Operation Mindcrime, nor is it Empire. But it's pretty damned good. But I like Marillion too, so who am I to say? :-) Julie -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1912 bytes Desc: not available URL: From eggfoolejung at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Sep 25 12:04:56 1999 From: eggfoolejung at HOTMAIL.COM (Suicide Victory) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 09:04:56 PDT Subject: Hawkwind radio special pt. 2 Message-ID: Hi folks, here is the playlist for the second part of the Hawkwind 12 hour radio special. I broadcast some live shows which I think worked well but am unsure about as regards potential bootleggers. Uh?rt, RadiOrakel, 99,3 FM 12.00 AM to 06.00 AM 28.09.99: #1 Friday Rock Show Sessions Magnu/Angels of Death #11 Out & Intake Ghost Dance #9 Out & Intake Confrontation #8 Xenon Codex Sword of The East #5 California Brainstorm TV Suicide/Back In The Box/Assassins Of Allah #3 California Brainstorm Brainstorm #1 Electric Teepee LSD #6 Electric Teepee Space Dust #7 Electric Teepee Snake Dance #3 Gimme Shelter EP Gimme Shelter (w/Samantha Fox) #3 Decide Your Future EP Right To Decide (Radio Edit Mix) #2 Quark EP Quark, Strangeness & Charm (live) #3 Quark EP Black Sun #5 Alien 4 Beam Me Up #9 Alien 4 Sputnik Stan #2 Love In Space EP Lord of Light (live) #1 Distant Horizons Distant Horizons #2 Distant Horizons Phetamine Street #6 Distant Horizons Reptoid Vision #2 In Your Area Alchemy #6 In Your Area I Am The Reptoid #7 In Your Area The Nazca #8 In Your Area Hippy --- #3 Assassins of Silence/Hundred... Hurry On Sundown - The Petals #13 Assassins of Silence/Hundred... Master of The Universe - The Mike Gunn #14 Assassins of Silence/Hundred... Spirit of The Age - Fly Ashtray #10 Assassins of Silence/Hundred... Robot - F/i #1 Hawkwind,Friends&Relations The Right Stuff - Pressurehed #10 Monster Magnet - Superjudge Brainstorm --- KZ Hawkwind Limelight, NYC 9/4/95 CD Hawkwind Strange Daze, Nelson Ledges, OH 15/08/98 #1 Assassins of Silence/Hundred... Death Trap - Slotnick ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From micci at SCI.FI Sat Sep 25 12:28:09 1999 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 19:28:09 +0300 Subject: HW: Source of cover versions Message-ID: Hi! >Does anyone know where the following cover versions are taken from? ( >Assault and Battery/The Golden Void, by Dark Sun (Was this recorded specially for Hawkwind Covers All?) No, taken from cassette release (a-side). B- side is Right Stuff! >Helvetiin, by Nomad Maddog and the Four Horsemen. Another finnish band. Never release nothing Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From micci at SCI.FI Sat Sep 25 12:28:14 1999 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 19:28:14 +0300 Subject: HW: Source of cover versions Message-ID: Hi! >In article <4.1.19990923151918.009594e0 at pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk>, Dave >Berry writes >> >>Helvetiin, by Nomad Maddog and the Four Horsemen. > >I had no idea what Helvetiin meant till I was absently-mindedly singing >it in the kitchen, while a Finnish friend of my wife's was >visiting........ And know you know :-)) Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Sep 25 12:50:07 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 17:50:07 +0100 Subject: OFF: TAPE: re:change of address In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990925120037.00917100@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Chris Warburton wrote: > Which reminds me, has the tape system stalled? I sent Jon's tape (the 2nd > I received) off to James in Texas a couple of weeks back, but I still > haven't got another one through...Rus, have you had a 3rd yet? Rus hasn't had a second yet - but it's now in the post. Sorry... Yours, Jon (who is in similar state to Rus) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Sep 25 12:56:56 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 17:56:56 +0100 Subject: HW: Source of cover versions In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990923151918.009594e0@pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Dave Berry wrote: > The Right Stuff, by Pressurehed (I know this was on an album, but which?) Can't help you with the others but this is on _Sudden Vertigo_, although I believe it was a single as well. Knut's Calvert site at has the details though I couldn't tell you exactly where - under Collab/Relations somewhere. Hope this helps, yours, Jon From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Sep 25 12:59:13 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 17:59:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Source of cover versions In-Reply-To: <199909241540.LAA15677@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Keith Henderson, having answered the question I just posted about, wrote: > P.S. I've heard that there will be a 'Hawkwind pastiche' piece added onto > the upcoming reissue of Porcupine Tree's 'Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape.' Does > anyone know exactly what this might be? I've got one of the original YHD > CDs, and wonder if it's worth it to get this new one as well. > *head spins* What! Reissue? Where does one find out about this? I wonder if there is any point being subscribed to Deerium's lists any more... Yours, Jon (who was soon going to shell out Collector's price for the original... ) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Sep 25 13:11:42 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 18:11:42 +0100 Subject: OT: Queensryche In-Reply-To: <002501bf0766$7f48cf80$42c4cfcf@eclipse.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Julie wrote: > I have Q2K by Quuensryche, and like it a hell of a lot better than their > last album Hear in the Now Frontier. It's a bit heavier, a tough more > imaginative and a smidge more creative. It's no Operation Mindcrime, nor is > it Empire. But it's pretty damned good. I borrowed _Empire_ from a friend and it quite put me off: seemed to me to be sub-_Club Ninja_ ballad metal. Did I just have my head in the wrong plane when I listened to it, or is this a matter of fundamental taste? 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Does >> anyone know exactly what this might be? I've got one of the original YHD >> CDs, and wonder if it's worth it to get this new one as well. > >Are you still on the Porcupine Tree list? I abandoned it some time >ago. Has anything interesting come up recently? > >Just curious >jill > >-- >====================================================================== >Jill Strobridge or >J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk >====================================================================== > From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Sep 25 15:13:49 1999 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 20:13:49 +0100 Subject: Urban Guerilla Message-ID: Does anyone know if a promo film was made for Urban Guerilla? One was made for "Who's gonna win the war", any others made for releases on Bronze? Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Sep 25 15:19:58 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 15:19:58 -0400 Subject: Was HW: Source, now OFF: PT Message-ID: >On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Keith Henderson, having answered the question I just >posted about, wrote: > >> P.S. I've heard that there will be a 'Hawkwind pastiche' piece added onto >> the upcoming reissue of Porcupine Tree's 'Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape.' Does >> anyone know exactly what this might be? I've got one of the original YHD >> CDs, and wonder if it's worth it to get this new one as well. >> > *head spins* What! Reissue? Where does one find out about this? I >wonder if there is any point being subscribed to Deerium's lists any >more... Yours, Here's the official info from SW's own homepage. I know there was once posted an e-mail address for the guy who runs 'Gates of Dawn'. His last name is of course, Piper. :) But I imagine that any important info about it will appear soon. Since this is an American release, maybe Doug P. might be convinced to make a joint order for those in Europe interested? We'll have to wait until he returns home to ask. :) Keith H. (FAA) NEW SINGLE A single of "Stranger By the Minute" on CD and 7 inch vinyl will be issued on Sep 27th. There is an enhanced portion on the CD which includes the "Piano Lessons" video, a photo gallery, discography and lyrics. The CD format will also include "Even Less Part 2" (7 and a half minutes that were excised from the album version), while the B side of the 7 inch will be a remixed version of Steven's interpretation of Neu's "Hallogallo" (originally included on the Insignificance cassette). NOTE : It was originally intended to include the complete version of "Even Less" on the single, but this would have meant exceeding the maximum running time allowed for a single in the UK. YELLOW HEDGEROW DREAMSCAPE VINYL EDITION American label Gates of Dawn will be issuing a vinyl edition of "Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape" in October. This album comprises archive material from 1984-91, most of which appeared on early cassette releases and was later made available on a limited edition CD in 1994. This new vinyl edition has been remastered and one track "The Cross" has been replaced by another track from the same period ("Out" - a Hawkwind pastiche) for purely selfish reasons (Steven didn't like it). The double album will be pressed on high quality vinyl and come in a full colour gatefold sleeve with extensive sleeve notes. The first 500 copies of the album will be pressed on yellow vinyl. For those people not interested in vinyl only releases, note that this new definitive master of YHD will eventually also appear on CD, although there are no plans at present. FORTHCOMING CONCERTS The second leg of the Stupid Dream tour is as follows : 16.10 - Club Dunois, Paris, France 18.10 - Transbordeur Club, Lyon, France 19.10 - La Laiterie, Strasbourg, France 20.10 - La Splendid, Lille, France 21.10 - Spirit of 66, Verviers, Belgium 22.10 - Aluminium, Munich, Germany 23.10 - Gaswerk, Winterthur, Switzerland 24.10 - Pala Tendra, Mantovar, Italy 29.10 - Binaro Zero, Milan, Italy 30.10 - Roxy Bar, Parma, Italy 4.11 - MarX (Markthalle), Hamburg, Germany 5.11 - Underground, Cologne, Germany 6.11 - De Kade, Zaandam, Holland 8.11 - The Scala, London, UK Immediately following the tour the band will be going in to the studio to commence work on a new studio album. From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Sep 25 17:37:48 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 17:37:48 EDT Subject: HW: Source of cover versions Message-ID: In a message dated 9/25/99 7:45:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: << :48:53 AM, jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK writes: << I had no idea what Helvetiin meant till I was absently-mindedly singing it in the kitchen, while a Finnish friend of my wife's was visiting........ >> ========= and? AND? "<>" >> ---My guess was "Hawkwind"...?? Chuck From eggfoolejung at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Sep 25 19:10:02 1999 From: eggfoolejung at HOTMAIL.COM (Suicide Victory) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 16:10:02 PDT Subject: Hawkwind radio special REPOST Message-ID: Looks like I messed up on the date (now corrected) and forgot to include that RadiOrakel is broadcast in Oslo, Norway. Here is the playlist for the second part of the Hawkwind 12 hour radio special. I broadcast some live shows which I think worked well but am unsure about as regards potential bootleggers. Uh?rt, RadiOrakel, 99,3 FM 12.00 AM to 06.00 AM 25.09.99: #1 Friday Rock Show Sessions Magnu/Angels of Death #11 Out & Intake Ghost Dance #9 Out & Intake Confrontation #8 Xenon Codex Sword of The East #5 California Brainstorm TV Suicide/Back In The Box/Assassins Of Allah #3 California Brainstorm Brainstorm #1 Electric Teepee LSD #6 Electric Teepee Space Dust #7 Electric Teepee Snake Dance #3 Gimme Shelter EP Gimme Shelter (w/Samantha Fox) #3 Decide Your Future EP Right To Decide (Radio Edit Mix) #2 Quark EP Quark, Strangeness & Charm (live) #3 Quark EP Black Sun #5 Alien 4 Beam Me Up #9 Alien 4 Sputnik Stan #2 Love In Space EP Lord of Light (live) #1 Distant Horizons Distant Horizons #2 Distant Horizons Phetamine Street #6 Distant Horizons Reptoid Vision #2 In Your Area Alchemy #6 In Your Area I Am The Reptoid #7 In Your Area The Nazca #8 In Your Area Hippy --- #3 Assassins of Silence/Hundred... Hurry On Sundown - The Petals #13 Assassins of Silence/Hundred... Master of The Universe - The Mike Gunn #14 Assassins of Silence/Hundred... Spirit of The Age - Fly Ashtray #10 Assassins of Silence/Hundred... Robot - F/i #1 Hawkwind,Friends&Relations The Right Stuff - Pressurehed #10 Monster Magnet - Superjudge Brainstorm --- KZ Hawkwind Limelight, NYC 9/4/95 CD Hawkwind Strange Daze, Nelson Ledges, OH 15/08/98 #1 Assassins of Silence/Hundred... Death Trap - Slotnick ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From jgoran at TELEBOT.COM Sat Sep 25 18:00:21 1999 From: jgoran at TELEBOT.COM (Goran Janicijevic) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 00:00:21 +0200 Subject: BOC CD In-Reply-To: <008b01bf06c8$ffbf0d80$c1a1fea9@dhiralalita> Message-ID: Dhira Lalita wrote in <008b01bf06c8$ffbf0d80$c1a1fea9 at dhiralalita>: >I am quite new to BOC. I am of limited funds and cannot afford limitless cd's. So can anyone please recommend some BOC for me to be getting on with, thanks, This is one of the most often FAQ's. Click this URL to get the answers about Blue Oyster Cult: http://j-and-a.com/blueoystercult/faq.html Anyway, appreciating the advices for obtaining some BOC compilation or live album, my advice for you is to get the remastered versions of 'Agents Of Fortune' and 'Cultosaurus Erectus'. I got into the Cult in the early eighties with these albums. -- Goran From asg at LAGUNA.COM.MX Sat Sep 25 15:13:01 1999 From: asg at LAGUNA.COM.MX (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 20:13:01 +0100 Subject: OT: Queensryche Message-ID: >> I have Q2K by Quuensryche, and like it a hell of a lot better than their >> last album Hear in the Now Frontier. It's a bit heavier, a tough more >> imaginative and a smidge more creative. It's no Operation Mindcrime, nor is >> it Empire. But it's pretty damned good. > > I borrowed _Empire_ from a friend and it quite put me off: seemed >to me to be sub-_Club Ninja_ ballad metal. Did I just have my head in the >wrong plane when I listened to it, or is this a matter of fundamental >taste? Whoah ! That's a weird comparison... I'd have to listen to both again, but "Empire" never struck me as sounding anything like CN. I do like both, but I think they're quite different. OTOH, "Silent lucidity" reminded me *a lot* of Pink Floyd (with tracks like "Comfortably numb" or "Hey you"). Cheers. Alex. --------------------------------------------------- Read the Icarus Encyclopedia of Fantasy & SF - http://www.noosfere.com/ (in French) - http://www.noosfere.com/icarus/homepage.htm (in English) Music videos : members.xoom.com/agarc/mvdb/ My Web HQ : members.tripod.com/~Mandor/ --------------------------------------------------- From joe.e at TELIA.COM Sun Sep 26 04:43:26 1999 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 10:43:26 +0200 Subject: HW: Source of cover versions Message-ID: At 19:28 1999-09-25 +0300, you wrote: >Hi! > >>Does anyone know where the following cover versions are taken from? ( > >>Assault and Battery/The Golden Void, by Dark Sun (Was this recorded >specially for Hawkwind Covers All?) > >No, taken from cassette release (a-side). B- side is Right Stuff! it was the darXtar double contribution that was made especially for this particular project. .joe From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Sun Sep 26 09:20:42 1999 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 14:20:42 +0100 Subject: TotP video Message-ID: Now digitiised - unfortuately, the mpeg is 56MB and I can't get it any smaller (the smallest avi I could get with Indeo R3.2 was 133MB). The quality is superb but the size pretty much rules it out of posting on the Web. I'm game for burning it to CD for a small fee if people are interested. Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Sun Sep 26 10:44:41 1999 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:44:41 +0100 Subject: TotP video In-Reply-To: <00e801bf0821$ef992f80$231ec8c3@johann> Message-ID: I managed to make a 38M mpeg - I can probably improve on this with a bit more practice. According to Netcom, http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~toaster/HWTOTP72.avi has been "seen by 47 visitors". Excluding my own test of the upload, if all "visitors" were successful one-shot downloads, this means 46 of you have downloaded the vid. I'll try to put a nicer size mpeg onto a CD by tonight, then I'll be offering to send copies out for B&P to a handful of others who agree to make similar B&P offer. Alasdair On 26 Sep 99, at 14:20, Kevin Perry wrote: > Now digitiised - unfortuately, the mpeg is 56MB and I can't get it any > smaller (the smallest avi I could get with Indeo R3.2 was 133MB). The > quality is superb but the size pretty much rules it out of posting on the > Web. > > I'm game for burning it to CD for a small fee if people are interested. > > > Kevin Perry > Sonic Energy Authority > http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ > > "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; > and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its > duties." > -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Sun Sep 26 10:53:11 1999 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:53:11 +0100 Subject: TotP video In-Reply-To: <00e801bf0821$ef992f80$231ec8c3@johann> Message-ID: On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Kevin Perry wrote: > Now digitiised - unfortuately, the mpeg is 56MB and I can't get it any > smaller (the smallest avi I could get with Indeo R3.2 was 133MB). The > quality is superb but the size pretty much rules it out of posting on the > Web. > > I'm game for burning it to CD for a small fee if people are interested. I would pay good money for that, so please count this as a vote in favour. Mike w From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Sun Sep 26 11:00:48 1999 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 16:00:48 +0100 Subject: TotP video Message-ID: OK - will do. It'd basically be a few quid to cover a blank CD and postage - I'll see how demand grows over the next few days. Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: M S Wright To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 3:53 PM Subject: Re: TotP video > On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Kevin Perry wrote: > > > Now digitiised - unfortuately, the mpeg is 56MB and I can't get it any > > smaller (the smallest avi I could get with Indeo R3.2 was 133MB). The > > quality is superb but the size pretty much rules it out of posting on the > > Web. > > > > I'm game for burning it to CD for a small fee if people are interested. > > I would pay good money for that, so please count this as a vote in favour. > > Mike w From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Sep 26 11:36:56 1999 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 08:36:56 PDT Subject: OFF: Deep Purple (Was: Marillion in Europe etc.) Message-ID: >itseems strange to me that DP were revisiting what most people >consider to be their biggest mistake. SINNER! I have both the original Purple/Orch recordings and they are very good. If you stand them alongside April on their 3rd MkI LP, you see exactly where they come from and how to make sense of them. And even the idea of Purple in 1970 in the Royal Albert Hall with the Philharmonic getting totally confused with the orchestra following the conductor (Malcolm Arnold) and the band following Ian Paice.... What a mental image... BTW, does anyone have a recording of the footage of the Concerto for Group and Orchestra??? Chris. PS who played in the Purp's lineup this time around anyway? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From micci at SCI.FI Sun Sep 26 12:03:53 1999 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 19:03:53 +0300 Subject: HW: Source of cover versions Message-ID: Hi! > I had no idea what Helvetiin meant till I was absently-mindedly singing > it in the kitchen, while a Finnish friend of my wife's was > visiting........ > >> > ========= > and? AND? > > "<>" >> > >---My guess was "Hawkwind"...?? >Chuck Well, that?s is "little" bit wrong! Okey, it?s mean going to hell! Actually right spelling is helvettiin In finnish hawkwind is haukantuuli, when haukka= hawk and tuuli = wind I once met one guy from this band (Nomad Maddog and the Four Horsemen) and he told me that this was only couple of guy who?s like HW. They never do gigs or records. They are broken now. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Sep 26 12:04:50 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 12:04:50 -0400 Subject: TotP video In-Reply-To: <199909261445.PAA16793@camelot.netcom.net.uk> Message-ID: Alasdair, => I managed to make a 38M mpeg - I can probably improve on this with a bit => more practice. I can host this file, if you like. Would you be willing to upload it to my FTP server? It can go in /pub/boc-l with the rest of the stuff. E-mail me, and I'll send you upload info. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Sun Sep 26 12:28:57 1999 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 11:28:57 -0500 Subject: HW TotP video Message-ID: You could put in on www.click2send.com That's a free internet file site. That is if you have cable or dsl. Kevin Perry wrote: > > Now digitiised - unfortuately, the mpeg is 56MB and I can't get it any > smaller (the smallest avi I could get with Indeo R3.2 was 133MB). The > quality is superb but the size pretty much rules it out of posting on the > Web. > > I'm game for burning it to CD for a small fee if people are interested. > > Kevin Perry > Sonic Energy Authority > http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ > > "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; > and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its > duties." From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Sun Sep 26 12:28:46 1999 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 17:28:46 +0100 Subject: HW TotP video Message-ID: 56K modem on a good day :-) Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its duties." ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Witt To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Sunday, September 26, 1999 5:28 PM Subject: Re: HW TotP video > You could put in on www.click2send.com > > That's a free internet file site. That is if you have cable or dsl. > > Kevin Perry wrote: > > > > Now digitiised - unfortuately, the mpeg is 56MB and I can't get it any > > smaller (the smallest avi I could get with Indeo R3.2 was 133MB). The > > quality is superb but the size pretty much rules it out of posting on the > > Web. > > > > I'm game for burning it to CD for a small fee if people are interested. > > > > Kevin Perry > > Sonic Energy Authority > > http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ > > > > "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; > > and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its > > duties." From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Sun Sep 26 12:43:18 1999 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 17:43:18 +0100 Subject: TotP video In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think there is room for picture quality improvement with the mpeg I made; I'll keep on trying & get back to you Alasdair On 26 Sep 99, at 12:04, Paul Mather wrote: > Alasdair, > > => I managed to make a 38M mpeg - I can probably improve on this with a > bit => more practice. > > I can host this file, if you like. Would you be willing to upload it to > my FTP server? It can go in /pub/boc-l with the rest of the stuff. E-mail > me, and I'll send you upload info. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." > --- James Marshall Hendrix > -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Sun Sep 26 14:57:18 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 13:57:18 -0500 Subject: Arthur Brown mentioned Message-ID: ahoy! check Virgo in the horoscope section of the Onion, before the next issue comes out Tues. night. you'll be pleasantly surprised! From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sun Sep 26 14:35:17 1999 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 13:35:17 -0500 Subject: Arthur Brown mentioned Message-ID: Here's the link! http://www.theonion.com/onion3534/horoscopes_3534.html "Sen. Volstead" wrote: > > ahoy! > check Virgo in the horoscope section of the Onion, before the next issue comes out Tues. > night. you'll be pleasantly surprised! -- "Like any driving directions/map, you should always do a reality check and make sure the road still exists, watch out for construction, and follow all traffic safety precautions. This is only to be used as an aid in planning." - Yahoo Maps From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Sep 26 15:09:09 1999 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 12:09:09 PDT Subject: OFF: Godspeed You Black Emperor! Message-ID: I have to thank Andy Gilham for doing what he does with his website. His mention of Godspeed You Black Emperor! combined with an interesting experience at a pub gig last week led me to buy their album, previously unheard. It is excellent. So today I browsed the web for a bit more information, and after reading two intelligent, well thought-out, interesting and even challenging reviews, I stumbled over the NME review. I'm sure big-name media coverage like this is good for any artist, but do these journalists have to write such shite? Hang the editors too. But thank you Andy, I now have to go out and buy their EP too. Chris. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Sep 26 15:51:04 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 20:51:04 +0100 Subject: Urban Guerilla Message-ID: Does anyone know if a promo film was made for Urban Guerilla? One was made for "Who's gonna win the war", any others made for releases on Bronze? Dave Has anyone seen this? Its the first I've heard of such a thing. Nick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Sep 26 16:57:53 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 21:57:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: Godspeed You Black Emperor! In-Reply-To: <19990926190909.76104.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Gee, thanks Chris! I've seen them live three times this year, including twice on consecutive nights (and I'd never done that for any band ever including Hawkwind!*), and they really are blinding live. And the F#A#00 album made great listening at max volume down the M1 today as well! --Andy *although I did see the 3 times in 5 nights in 1981 :) mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Horse Whisperer > Sent: 26 September 1999 20:09 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: OFF: Godspeed You Black Emperor! > > > I have to thank Andy Gilham for doing what he does with his website. > His mention of Godspeed You Black Emperor! combined with an interesting > experience at a pub gig last week led me to buy their album, previously > unheard. It is excellent. > > So today I browsed the web for a bit more information, and after > reading two > intelligent, well thought-out, interesting and even challenging reviews, I > stumbled over the NME review. I'm sure big-name media coverage > like this is > good for any artist, but do these journalists have to write such shite? > Hang the editors too. > > But thank you Andy, I now have to go out and buy their EP too. > > Chris. > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Sat Sep 25 13:04:31 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 18:04:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Source of cover versions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 16:00 24/09/99 , DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: ><< Hurry On Sundown, by Finally Balanced. (Was this on Assassins of >Silence?) >> > >naw, it's on their own cd Do you know the title of this CD? Dave. From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Sat Sep 25 13:06:32 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 18:06:32 +0100 Subject: HW: Source of cover versions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 06:20 25/09/99 , Allan T Grohe Jr wrote: >I just extracted all 58 emails in my covers folder into a file if you want >it Dave? OK, I might as well go back to the source. Thanks, Allan. >I thought they were credited in Chuck's tape sleeves too? I lost or threw out a load of stuff when I moved house and moved computer. Occasionally I miss some of it -- like this. Dave. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Sep 26 17:22:40 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 17:22:40 EDT Subject: HW: Source of cover versions Message-ID: In a message dated 9/26/99 5:11:35 PM, daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK writes: << ><< Hurry On Sundown, by Finally Balanced. (Was this on Assassins of >Silence?) >> > >naw, it's on their own cd Do you know the title of this CD? >> ======= yeah, this time i made the trek to my room, heh... the cd is entitled 'fondue'....they're a really capable band; the 'slam poetry' may be an acquired taste for some...was for me anyway. i'm like that "<>" From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Sun Sep 26 18:14:15 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 18:14:15 -0400 Subject: HW: Source of cover versions (Finally Balanced - Canis Minor) Message-ID: Finally Balanced: Fondue Triple Beam Cat #TBD-124C41 There is a WebSite: www.finallybalanced.com Related Ambience: Canis Minor. http://www.canis-minor.com/ RJ -----Original Message----- From: Dave Berry To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Sunday, September 26, 1999 5:16 PM Subject: Re: HW: Source of cover versions >At 16:00 24/09/99 , DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: >><< Hurry On Sundown, by Finally Balanced. (Was this on Assassins of >>Silence?) >> >> >>naw, it's on their own cd > >Do you know the title of this CD? > >Dave. From iscladoc at IDIR.NET Sun Sep 26 21:26:44 1999 From: iscladoc at IDIR.NET (Allan T Grohe Jr) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 20:26:44 -0500 Subject: HW: Source of cover versions In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990925180444.0096c870@pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Sat, 25 Sep 1999, Dave Berry wrote: > At 06:20 25/09/99 , Allan T Grohe Jr wrote: > >I just extracted all 58 emails in my covers folder into a file if you want > >it Dave? > > OK, I might as well go back to the source. Thanks, Allan. I'll forward these seperately. > >I thought they were credited in Chuck's tape sleeves too? > > I lost or threw out a load of stuff when I moved house and moved > computer. Occasionally I miss some of it -- like this. Frank Weil's web site lists covers and is at: http://www.enteract.com/~weil/golden_void/misc/songs_covered.html My listing of the HW Covers All project appears on my web site at: http://www.rpg.net/ehp/imrryr/hw.html I thought that Chuck had the images of the sleeves online too, but I can't seem to find them now? I think that perhaps Paul Mather had them on his site?? 'night! Allan. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allan T. Grohe, Jr. Visit the Dreaming City iscladoc at idir.net http://www.rpg.net/ehp/imrryr If you want to view paradise / simply look around and view it Anything you want to, do it / Want to change the world there's nothing to it . . . . -- "Pure Imagination" from _Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory_ From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Mon Sep 27 04:53:08 1999 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:53:08 +0100 Subject: HW: Source of cover versions Message-ID: On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Keith Henderson, having answered the question I just posted about, wrote: > P.S. I've heard that there will be a 'Hawkwind pastiche' piece added onto > the upcoming reissue of Porcupine Tree's 'Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape.' Does > anyone know exactly what this might be? I've got one of the original YHD > CDs, and wonder if it's worth it to get this new one as well. > Kieth, This track is titled "One", and VERY closely resembles Magnu. I heard it on cassette a few years back. Long-time HW/PT fan Steve Freight has it, but he WILL NOT....REPEAT..WILL NOT copy it for anybody, as he has promised not to! You'll just haver to wait for the re-issue of YHD. Guy T. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 27 07:14:18 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:14:18 +0100 Subject: HW: Sci fi con. In-Reply-To: XXX's message of Fri, 24 Sep 1999 21:50:42 +0100 Message-ID: XXX writes: > Did you see Watchdog tonight about the sci-fi convention (Avalon) that we > were meant to be playing? They are fighting for the money of the sci-fi > fans. They should be fighting for the Hawkwind fans too. They have found > Sean Clark. I phoned them to tell them this. Maybe anyone who is owed money > should phone too. So what was the real story behind all the fuss? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 27 07:34:46 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:34:46 +0100 Subject: TotP video In-Reply-To: Alasdair Macdonald's message of Sun, 26 Sep 1999 15:44:41 +0100 Message-ID: Alasdair Macdonald writes: > I managed to make a 38M mpeg - I can probably improve on this with a bit > more practice. > > According to Netcom, http://www.netcomuk.co.uk/~toaster/HWTOTP72.avi has > been "seen by 47 visitors". All I get is redirected to another page offering browser services. FoFP From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Sep 27 08:40:31 1999 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 05:40:31 PDT Subject: OFF: Godspeed You Black Emperor! Message-ID: >From: Andy Gilham >Gee, thanks Chris! Just callin' it as ah'm a-findin' it....:-> >I've seen them live three times this year... The implication here being that they've played in the UK????? Why why why why why do I always get to be the last to know? I askya. C. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Mon Sep 27 08:48:30 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:48:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: Godspeed You Black Emperor! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 27 Sep 1999 05:40:31 PDT." <19990927124032.82136.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: > >From: Andy Gilham > >Gee, thanks Chris! > > Just callin' it as ah'm a-findin' it....:-> > > >I've seen them live three times this year... > > The implication here being that they've played in the UK????? > Why why why why why do I always get to be the last to know? > I askya. Yup. Last time was 2 consecutive nights at the Union Chapel London. Great venue, fitted the band well. They *ruled*. Truly mesmerising and intense. Tim From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon Sep 27 11:59:22 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:59:22 +0800 Subject: TotP video In-Reply-To: <00e801bf0821$ef992f80$231ec8c3@johann> Message-ID: I'm interested!!! William > > Now digitiised - unfortuately, the mpeg is 56MB and I can't get it any > smaller (the smallest avi I could get with Indeo R3.2 was 133MB). The > quality is superb but the size pretty much rules it out of posting on the > Web. > > I'm game for burning it to CD for a small fee if people are interested. > > > Kevin Perry > Sonic Energy Authority > http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ > > "It is the business of the future to be dangerous; > and it is among the merits of science that it equips the future for its > duties." > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon Sep 27 12:01:51 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 00:01:51 +0800 Subject: Deep Purple (Was: Marillion in Europe etc.) In-Reply-To: <19990926153656.54452.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: > BTW, does anyone have a recording of the footage of the Concerto for Group > and Orchestra??? > I've got it on a Beta tape. I should be able to copy to VHS if you are interested? William From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Sep 27 20:35:35 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 01:35:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: Godspeed You Black Emperor! In-Reply-To: <19990927124032.82136.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: There's a website at http://www.southern.com/southern/band/GDSPD/ which is usually up to date with tour news (and an excellent mail order service should you have trouble finding the EP). --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Horse Whisperer > Sent: 27 September 1999 13:41 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: OFF: Godspeed You Black Emperor! > > > >From: Andy Gilham > >Gee, thanks Chris! > > Just callin' it as ah'm a-findin' it....:-> > > >I've seen them live three times this year... > > The implication here being that they've played in the UK????? > Why why why why why do I always get to be the last to know? > I askya. > > C. > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Sep 28 02:43:57 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 02:43:57 EDT Subject: OFF/Hawkwind: "Space Does Not Care" Set-list Message-ID: "Space Does Not Care" 9/25/99, 5-8pm PST, 88.3 fm KUCR 1.Quarkspace--Prince (Hidden Moon) 2.Robert Calvert--Acid Rain (Freq) 3.Spiral Realms--Rush Hour Betelgeuse 5 (Crystal Jungles of Eos) 4.Tea Party--The Badger (Edges of Twilight) 5.Tibra Komal--Oriental Orchids Spinned of a Silkworm (Turn Century Turn comp) 6.Subarachnoid Space--Karoshi (Delicate Membrane) 7.Pink Floyd--Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun (Umma Gumma) 8.Orb--Outlands (Live '93) 9.Anubian Lights--Arcing Into an Infinite Galaxy (Jackal & 9) 10.Hawkwind--Chronoglide Skyway (Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music) 11.The Brain--Access and Amplify/Echoes of an Ancient Sky/Glow of Aristarchus (Access and Amplify) 12.Melting Euphoria--Scarab Sands (Upon the Solar Winds) 13.Gong--New Age Transformation: No More Sages (Floating Anarchy) 14.Nik Turner--Lord of the Hornets (Past or Future?) 15.Helios Creed--Nirbasion Annasion (The Last Laugh) 16.F/i--Trauma at the Beach (Out of Space and Out of Time) 17.Hawkwind--Death Trap (P.X.R.5) 18.Mirza--The Path is White Clouds (Iron Compass Flux) 19.Can--Transcendental Express (Unlimited Edition) 20.Uncle Nik and the E.T.'s--Phone Home Elliot (Hawkwind's Friends and Relations: The Rarities) 21.Henry Cow--Bellycan (Legend) 22.Future Sound of London--Spineless Jelly (Space Daze 2000 comp) 23.Zero Gravity--The Centrifuge (Space Does Not Care) 24.Ozric Tentacles--Obstacular Explosion (Live Ethereal Cereal) 25.Hawkwind--Hashcake '77 (Anthology/Acid Daze) 26.Pressurehed--Slo Blow (Sudden Vertigo) Comments or questions are welcome, Chuck From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Tue Sep 28 03:58:54 1999 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 02:58:54 -0500 Subject: HW: church Message-ID: Just got back from watching the Church. Most notable part of the show was the final encore "Silver Machine". From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Sep 28 04:17:31 1999 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 01:17:31 PDT Subject: Deep Purple Concerto Video Message-ID: >From: William Duffy > > BTW, does anyone have a recording of the footage of the Concerto > for >Group and Orchestra??? > > >I've got it on a Beta tape. I should be able to copy to VHS if you >are interested? > Oh yes, I'm interested. You're Down Under, yeah? How much would it cost to post....? I'm sure we can arrange something.... Any ideas? Chris. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 28 04:46:30 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 09:46:30 +0100 Subject: Space Daze '97 double CD Message-ID: This has good versions of: Kauai Hassan I Sabha/ Space is Their Palestine Brainstorm/Hawkwind In Your Area Is there anyone out there who has the track order for disc two? Cheers FoFP From dewi at DEWI1.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Sep 28 05:26:19 1999 From: dewi at DEWI1.DEMON.CO.UK (Dewi Thompson) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:26:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Reunion at Brixton (or anywhere) Message-ID: Anyone out there got any news/rumours/pure speculation about the supposed reunion gigs at Brixton academy. Perhaps I'm being pessimistic, but it seems that the longer we wait to hear about it, the less likely it is to happen. Hope I'm wrong. Dewi From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Sep 28 08:11:30 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:11:30 -0400 Subject: HW: Reunion at Brixton (or anywhere) In-Reply-To: <01BF099C.30EC3D80@dewi1.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: >Anyone out there got any news/rumours/pure speculation about the supposed >reunion gigs at Brixton academy. Perhaps I'm being pessimistic, but it >seems that the longer we wait to hear about it, the less likely it is to >happen. > >Hope I'm wrong. > >Dewi I talked to Adrian Shaw at a recent Bevis Frond show. He said he had heard that *one* of the reasons the show won't happen is because Lemmy only wanted two days to rehearse, and he also wanted a large sum of money to play (which he rightly deserves). I believe Motorhead will be touring soon as well, so if the reunion ever does happen, it will be without Lemmy. Brian From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Sep 28 08:40:17 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:40:17 EDT Subject: HW: Reunion at Brixton (or anywhere) In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990928080855.00948d50@mail.earthlink.net> Message-ID: > From: Brian Halligan > > I talked to Adrian Shaw at a recent Bevis Frond show. He said he had heard > that *one* of the reasons the show won't happen is because Lemmy only > wanted two days to rehearse, and he also wanted a large sum of money to > play (which he rightly deserves). I believe Motorhead will be touring soon > as well, so if the reunion ever does happen, it will be without Lemmy. So, where's the review of the BF gig? theo From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Tue Sep 28 09:09:02 1999 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (James A Hogard) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:09:02 -0500 Subject: OFF: Godspeed You Black Emperor! Message-ID: I've been listening to a bunch of GYBE mp3's lately, great stuff. They're playing here tonight, but I have to stay home with the kids :( Man, I feel old when I say that. Hogard From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Tue Sep 28 10:02:19 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:02:19 -0400 Subject: Space Daze '97 double CD Message-ID: I may be wrong. But I do not remember them playing Kauai. Was this possibly added into the remix? RJ I haven't listened to disc two yet, but if disc one is an indicator, it should be great! RJ -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 4:53 AM Subject: Space Daze '97 double CD >This has good versions of: > >Kauai >Hassan I Sabha/ Space is Their Palestine >Brainstorm/Hawkwind In Your Area > > >Is there anyone out there who has the track order for disc two? > >Cheers > >FoFP From SHLL at NOVO.DK Tue Sep 28 10:25:23 1999 From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:25:23 +0200 Subject: HW: newreleases Message-ID: Have Dave and Kris responded or does anyone know just what all these collector's series discs are that cdzone have listed as being released in oct? They also havea whole set of stuff for jan 3 2000, like Greasy Truckers, BBC Archives. Most everything is a dutch import as well. I am just curious. I have been away for a bit. scott ObCD- On Trial- 70 kilometers of underwater nothingness, Kaptain! From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 28 11:56:55 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:56:55 +0100 Subject: HW: Reunion at Brixton (or anywhere) In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990928080855.00948d50@mail.earthlink.net> Message-ID: At 13:11 28/09/99 , Brian Halligan wrote: >I talked to Adrian Shaw at a recent Bevis Frond show. He said he had heard >that *one* of the reasons the show won't happen is because Lemmy only >wanted two days to rehearse, and he also wanted a large sum of money to >play (which he rightly deserves). My suggestion is to take the sum that Lemmy wants, divide it by the number of seats, and let people know that they're paying x pounds per ticket just to see Lemmy play with Hawkwind (on top of the other costs). I reckon most people will gladly pay one or two quid for a "Lemmy tax", which would translate into a couple of grand for him. Like it or loathe it, that's the way the market works. On the other hand, if he's asking for 5-10 quid per punter, he can go screw himself. Dave. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 28 12:38:29 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:38:29 +0100 Subject: Space Daze '97 double CD In-Reply-To: Sprawl's message of Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:02:19 -0400 Message-ID: Sprawl writes: > I may be wrong. But I do not remember them playing Kauai. > Was this possibly added into the remix? Dunno. Possibly. It was clearly at the start of the Hawkwind gig and has the organiser running through a list of thanks as the track plays and then he intriduces Hawkwind. > RJ > > I haven't listened to disc two yet, but if disc one is an indicator, > it should be great! OK. I'd appreciate an ordered tracklist since I don't recognise all the bands. Cheers FoFP From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Tue Sep 28 13:09:28 1999 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:09:28 +0200 Subject: Space Daze '97 double CD In-Reply-To: <199909281638.RAA02091@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi > I may be wrong. But I do not remember them playing Kauai. Here is the complete track listing from this gig 31.08.97, SHERMAN, STRANGE DAZE FESTIVAL intro / kauai / wheels / standing at the edge / assault & battery / golden void / hassan i sahba / space is their / hassan i sahba / alchemy / love in space / aerospaceage inferno / sonic attac / blue skin / brainstorm / jam / brainstorm / needle gun / ejection / raptoid vision Bernhard From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Tue Sep 28 13:57:11 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:57:11 -0400 Subject: Space Daze '97 double CD Message-ID: Yep, I had just checked the video. I -was- wrong. What a shocker. ;) RJ >Hi > > >> I may be wrong. But I do not remember them playing Kauai. > > >Here is the complete track listing from this gig > >31.08.97, SHERMAN, STRANGE DAZE FESTIVAL >intro / kauai / wheels / standing at the edge / assault & battery / golden >void / hassan i sahba / space is their / hassan i sahba / alchemy / love in >space / aerospaceage inferno / sonic attac / blue skin / brainstorm / jam / >brainstorm / needle gun / ejection / raptoid vision > > >Bernhard From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Sep 28 16:07:26 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:07:26 -0400 Subject: OFF: Insidious Spectacle on-line Message-ID: Hi Folks... Just noticed that Pete Sounds (of Philly) has the entire Insidious Spectacle fest available in either Real Audio or Windows Media at his www.DrugMusic.com site. There you can hear the performances by Salamander (check them out!), Primordial Undermind (see if you can hear Doug P.!), Bevis Frond (w/ Ade Shaw), and Overhang Party (Japan's noisy psychedelists), among others. As a side note, he's got lots of other standard radio shows (all space/psych) there also. The newest one includes an Agitation Free tune from the 'new' live release (1974 recording). Check 'em out if you're curious about the band. That's all... Keith H. (FAA) P.S. I lied...For some great SD'99 photos (taken by Roger Neville-Neil!), go to the Aural Innovations homepage (http://www.infinet.com/~jkranitz/space/space.html) and go to Pages 6-8 of the SD'99 photo gallery. ObCD: River of Return - Agitation Free (1999) From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Sep 28 18:01:52 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:01:52 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond live review Message-ID: The Bevis Frond September 17 Bug Jar Rochester, NY Set list in almost correct order: Hole Song No. 2 ????? (Rocked, of course) Stoned Train Driver Leave a Light On (more groove than on the record) Virus (kicking! Someone in the audience said "That was really good.") London Stone He'd Be a Diamond God Speed You to Earth (excellent + extended mellow guitar intro because Ade's bass quit for a minute) Stain on the Sun Well Out of It Encores: Temple Falls Lights Are Changing Small stage, maybe 50 people in attendance (the show started after midnight). All 50 were rowdy and appreciative to the Nth degree though. The sound was crisp and the guitar got steadily louder through the first 3 songs because people in the audience kept telling Nick to turn it up. ;-) The drummer used to play for the Silver Apples (I think) and was very good. Nick said he only had 2 days to rehearse with them before the tour, but you would hardly know it except that you could see Ade and Nick giving him enterance cues sometimes. Ade was dead-on when his bass was working.... Highlights for me were Virus, God Speed You to Earth (which translated well live, believe it or not), and Well Out of It, which just kicks major ass all over the place. The only downer is that the groove in Stoned Train Driver was too slow and stilted. There wasn't the rhythm it had at the Syracuse show last year with Andy Ward on drums. Another highlight of the show was that during Well Out of It, Nick jumped down off the stage and played *right in front of me* for about 30 seconds. (I could have plucked the strings without fully extending my arm.) Then he wandered around the front row wailing away. I was surprised nobody touched the guitar or otherwise screwed-up his playing. After Well Out of It everyone was going nuts, so they played an encore (Nick said it was a song they had forgotten to play and he and Ade and the drummer all accused each other). That was Temple Falls. They played it at almost twice the speed of the album cut- frantic and heavy. And when the crowd cheered even louder after that, they decided to play one more (Lights Are Changing). The band seemed to really enjoy the gig tremendously. After the show I picked up the Country Joe/BF live CD. It's good. Not as rockin' as I hope the BF live CD will be, but definately fun. Here's the story behind the Vavona Burr album title: There is a wood veneer factory in London that has a large sign with the "Veneer of the Week" up on it, and one time when Nick was driving by it was Vavona Burr. Hense the album title. The next week there was an even better one, (can't remember- started with a B and sounded weird) that he thought would make an even better album title, but it was too late. Another bit of interesting information: When I got to talk to Nick before the show he said he was upset with Flydaddy (it seemed mostly due to the fact that they're touring without being able to push their new live album because of delays from Flydaddy). So apparently he's looking for a new record company in the US. Brian obCD> New River Head (That thing that looks like a rock in the water is actually Nick "drowning.") From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Sep 28 21:29:48 1999 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:29:48 -0400 Subject: Fwd: Not Rodgers? Message-ID: > >No sense in arguing with the keeper of the FAQ :-) but I could have sworn >Rodgers played bass on that track. Aronson does a mean impression of Kenny does indeed play all the bass parts on the Imaginos album that has been released by Columbia. Al From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Sep 29 07:54:06 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 07:54:06 EDT Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond live review In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990928174510.00946270@mail.earthlink.net> Message-ID: > From: Brian Halligan > > Here's the story behind the Vavona Burr album title: > There is a wood veneer factory in London that has a large sign with the > "Veneer of the Week" up on it, and one time when Nick was driving by it was > Vavona Burr. Hense the album title. The next week there was an even > better one, (can't remember- started with a B and sounded weird) that he > thought would make an even better album title, but it was too late. > Bubinga? An exotic hardwood... Sure it wasn't Vavona , referring to the grain pattern of the wood? theo [big fan of Norm's] From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Wed Sep 29 05:31:02 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Bart Brugmans (aka Gekke Henkie)) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 11:31:02 +0200 Subject: HW: Reunion at Brixton (or anywhere) In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990928165326.0098cab0@pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Op 28 Sep 99, om 16:56, Dave Berry schreef: > My suggestion is to take the sum that Lemmy wants, divide it by the number of seats, and let people know that they're paying x pounds per ticket just to see Lemmy play with Hawkwind (on top of the other costs). I reckon most people will gladly pay one or two quid for a "Lemmy tax", which would translate into a couple of grand for him. Like it or loathe it, that's the way the market works. Sound pretty reasonable to me, but what if everybody is gonna ask for some extra cash. It's allright for me to pay a few quid extra just for Lemmy, but I also would like to see Nik and Huw on stage. So what if the ask for a few quid? I would like to say screw all who want a few quid extra, we buy enough records, t-shirts and other shit already. that should be enough. --BArt NP Poison Idea - Motorhead (a nice cover version BTW) From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Sep 28 13:51:24 1999 From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:51:24 +0100 Subject: Brixton Reunion Message-ID: Hello folks I wouldn't want to pay anything extra just to see someone rake a few more bob up, or for that case, being the only way to entice someone over from overseas. Surely, they'll all be getting a fee for performing and expenses? As for a "Lemmy tax", as was mentioned earlier, what the f**k is all that about? What about the fans on the dole? Or the fans who will pay out hundreds on travel? Bet your life they'll get down to Brixton. How about a reasonably priced ticket, with members of Hawkwind past and present who wanna do the gig. If it comes off, it'll be a blinding night for all. There's plenty of Hawkwind musicians and I'm sure they'll all have a fine old time. Oh, and stuff any tax. Best regards Age Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Wed Sep 29 07:21:47 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 21:21:47 +1000 Subject: HW/OFF: LLG Final Tour Dates Message-ID: Guys n Gals of boc-l ... This is a bit stale - some of the dates have come n gone (been fixing the old PC this last week so only just got to sending this on to the list), but I thought a few of you would be up for some of these show .... Anyone see the Melbourne date??? :( S. ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Send reply to: "lloydlangton" From: "lloydlangton" To: "Bruce Stringer" , "Paul Ward" Subject: final dates & CD Date sent: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 14:37:23 +0100 THE FINAL DATES FOR LLG: Web Site: http://huwlloyd-langton.co.uk DAY DATE VENUE TOWN MONDAY 1ST NOV'99 BULLINGTON ARMS OXFORD THURSDAY 4TH NOV'99 NEW ROSCOE LEEDS FRIDAY 5TH NOV'99 FIBBERS YORK SATURDAY 6TH NOV'99 THE RIGGER NEWCASTLE-UNDER LYME SUNDAY 7TH NOV'99 VICTORIA INN DERBY WEDNESDAY 10TH NOV'99 LINCOLN IMP SCUNTHOPE THURSDAY 11TH NOV'99 LIMELIGHT CLUB CREWE (Cheshire) FRIDAY 12TH NOV'99 THE LEOPARD DONCASTER SATURDAY 13TH NOV'99 LOUISIANA ROOMS BRISTOL SUNDAY 14TH NOV'99 T.J. O'REILLYS MARLOW BOTTOM,BUCKS FRIDAY 19TH NOV'99 GRAND HOTEL LEIGH-ON-SEA SUNDAY 21ST NOV'99 THE WELLINGTON HULL WEDNESDAY 1ST DEC'99 PRINCESS CHARLOTTES LEICESTER THURSDAY 9TH DEC'99 100 CLUB CENTRAL LONDON SNORKWIND: EX-HAWKWIND MEMBERS BASSIST ALAN DAVEY AND DRUMMER DANNY THOMPSON AND HUW HAVE GOT TOGETHER AGAIN TO PLAY 2 DATES IN OCTOBER: 8TH OCTOBER - THE ORANGE CLUB, THE WESTBOURNE, 3 NORTH END CRESCENT, LONDON W14 -TEL: 0171 381 0444 9TH OCTOBER - RYE COMMUNITY CENTRE, CONDUIT HILL, RYE, SUSSEX Pre-tour date: SUNDAY 26TH SEPT'99 GRAND HOTEL LEIGH-ON-SEA TELEPHONE NUMBERS FOR DATES: BULLINGTON ARMS- 01865 244 516 NEW ROSCOE - 0113 246 0778 FIBBERS - 01904 670542 THE RIGGER - 01782 616602 VICTORIA INN- 01332 740 091 LINCOLN IMP - 01724 840 891 LIMELIGHT CLUB - 01270 255519 THE LEOPARD - 01302 363 054 LOUISIANA ROOMS - 0117 944 2495 GRAND LEIGH-ON-SEA - 01702 710 768 THE WELLINGTON - 01482 320 756 PRINCESS CHARLOTTES: 0116 255 3956100 CLUB - 0171 636 0933 'CHAIN REACTION' CDS IN STOCK ON 28TH - ONLY ON SALE WEB SITE OR MAIL ORDER FROM ALLEGRO OVERSEAS SAME PRICE AS UK ?13 OR EQUIVALENT IN YOUR NATIONAL CURRENCY INCLUDES POSTAGE-ORDER BY CREDIT CARD (NOT AMERICAN EXPRESS) - FORM ON SITE OR BY MAIL FROM ALLEGRO: P.O. BOX 10208, LONDON NW4 4WF REGARDS MARION ------- End of forwarded message ------- -- sonique at sonique.net From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 29 06:47:13 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 11:47:13 +0100 Subject: Space Daze '97 double CD In-Reply-To: Sprawl's message of Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:57:11 -0400 Message-ID: Sprawl writes: > Yep, I had just checked the video. I -was- wrong. What a shocker. ;) > RJ Any available copies of this video to trade? FoFP > > >Hi > > > > > >> I may be wrong. But I do not remember them playing Kauai. > > > > > >Here is the complete track listing from this gig > > > >31.08.97, SHERMAN, STRANGE DAZE FESTIVAL > >intro / kauai / wheels / standing at the edge / assault & battery / golden > >void / hassan i sahba / space is their / hassan i sahba / alchemy / love in > >space / aerospaceage inferno / sonic attac / blue skin / brainstorm / jam / > >brainstorm / needle gun / ejection / raptoid vision > > > > > >Bernhard > From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Wed Sep 29 13:12:53 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 13:12:53 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond live review In-Reply-To: <19990929170659.77182.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: >>Here's the story behind the Vavona Burr album title: >>There is a wood veneer factory in London that has a large sign with the >>"Veneer of the Week" up on it, and one time when Nick was driving by it >>was Vavona Burr. Hense the album title. The next week there was an even >>better one, (can't remember- started with a B and sounded weird) that he >>thought would make an even better album title, but it was too late. >Bubinga? An exotic hardwood... Sure it wasn't Vavona , >referring to the grain pattern of the wood? Yep. That's the one. And it is Vavona Burr, which according to my dictionary is another name for a California Redwood (or something close to that- I looked it up awhile ago and I don't have the dictionary handy at the moment). Brian >theo [big fan of Norm's] From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Sep 29 14:02:39 1999 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 19:02:39 +0100 Subject: Brixton Reunion Message-ID: Spot on! Dave -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Parr To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 29 September 1999 14:59 Subject: Re: Brixton Reunion >Hello folks > >I wouldn't want to pay anything extra just to see someone rake a few more >bob up, or for that case, being the only way to entice someone over from >overseas. >Surely, they'll all be getting a fee for performing and expenses? >As for a "Lemmy tax", as was mentioned earlier, what the f**k is all that >about? >What about the fans on the dole? Or the fans who will pay out hundreds on >travel? >Bet your life they'll get down to Brixton. > >How about a reasonably priced ticket, with members of Hawkwind past and >present who wanna do the gig. >If it comes off, it'll be a blinding night for all. >There's plenty of Hawkwind musicians and I'm sure they'll all have a fine >old time. >Oh, and stuff any tax. > >Best regards >Age > >Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: >http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html > From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Sep 29 14:49:43 1999 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 19:49:43 +0100 Subject: HW: newreleases - HawkFan update Message-ID: "SHLL (Scott Heller)" wrote: > > Have Dave and Kris responded or does anyone know just what all these > collector's series discs are that cdzone have listed as being released in > oct? They also havea whole set of stuff for jan 3 2000, like Greasy > Truckers, BBC Archives. Most everything is a dutch import as well. I am just > curious. I have been away for a bit. Don't know how many folk will have received one but I had a Hawkwind Feedback letter from Brian Tawn yesterday. I won't type all of it in (if you send an SAE to Brian Tawn, 27 Burdett Road, Wisbech, Cambs, PE13 2PR he might have some spare to send out) but he comments that the upcoming releases are: Hawkwind Year 2000 Codename Hawkwind Vol One (this is out - it's a hopefully final reissue of Space Ritual 2 and Early Daze reissued reissues) Glastonbury (Travellers Field) which will be Glastonbury 1990 Greasy Truckers which might be the full HW set from Feb 1972 Collectors Series Vol 1 - Live 1982. Dougle CD of the whole set. Collectors Series Vol 2 - Complete 1979. Double CD of the whole set Collectors Series Vol 4 - Atomhenge 76 - the live 1976 set Vol 3 appears to be missing somewhere. None of these appear to be out yet but must be due soon. Also promised: Hawkwind Family Tree on Voiceprint. Finishing touches are apparently still being made to this..........(!) but it might be out in Oct/Nov featuring Dave, Ron Jerry and Richard individual offerings + cuts from Hawkwind including a 10 min Motorway City. There's also a Hawkwind studio album about two-thirds complete and a solo album from Dave apparently called Sex Dreams with guests Crum and Richard on it. Gigs have apparently been offered in the USA and UK for October/November but nothing has yet been arranged. The suggestion is that reunion guests might appear at different times during the tour Other comments are that the Spacehead CD In Space we Trust is out on the Dead Earnest lable. Adrian Shaw's latest CD is called Head Cleaner. Here and Now's new CD is called Gospel of Free and Dr. Hasbeen have been (excuse pun!) producing 3 new CDs. Dave Watson (who wrote the Hawkwind history "Born To Go" book) and Gavin Wilson have a band called "Time Brothers" based on the Hawkwind sound and have taken the Space Ritual theme together with added dialogue from the Hawklog and recorded a selection of songs. Dave Brock has approved the issue of a small number of CDs which will be available from Gavin sometime in November. They are looking for a drummer if anyone is reading this in the West Lothian area of Scotland!! There are comments on Bedouin and Alan Davey's Motorhead tribute band and also on the ToTP2 showing of Silver Machine which apparently Dave Brock says was a composite from more than one film. That mostly covers everything in brief but contact Brian Tawn (Hawkfan) for any further info. jill ObWeather> I see from CNN that the Carolinas are several feet under water. It looks pretty miserable up that way. Sympathies to everyone there! ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Sep 29 14:35:47 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 19:35:47 +0100 Subject: Brixton Reunion Message-ID: >Hello folks > >I wouldn't want to pay anything extra just to see someone rake a few more >bob up, or for that case, being the only way to entice someone over from >overseas. >Surely, they'll all be getting a fee for performing and expenses? >As for a "Lemmy tax", as was mentioned earlier, what the f**k is all that >about? >What about the fans on the dole? Or the fans who will pay out hundreds on >travel? >Bet your life they'll get down to Brixton. > >How about a reasonably priced ticket, with members of Hawkwind past and >present who wanna do the gig. >If it comes off, it'll be a blinding night for all. >There's plenty of Hawkwind musicians and I'm sure they'll all have a fine >old time. >Oh, and stuff any tax. > >Best regards >Age Couldn't agree more. While I'd love to see Lemmy do a full gig with HW, I'd also love to see Simon House with them again, or Harvey, Huw, Alan, Nik or Ade Shaw or any number of others. Basically I'd just like to see HW again, and think that they should be getting a tour together on the back of this wave of publicity without or without special guests. Nick From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Wed Sep 29 18:38:34 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:38:34 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind reunion dates Message-ID: Hello Folks, Hawkwind are playing some dates in November, which will include Norwich Waterfront, 9th Nov. Waventon Stables 10th Nov. St Austell Coliseum, 12th Nov. Croyden Fairfields Halls, 14th Nov. These dates will feature "special guests" The Brixton Acadamy dates are on hold pending "negotiations" Call them and inquire! Yours Dave Brock From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Wed Sep 29 20:04:47 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:04:47 +0900 Subject: Hawkwind reunion dates Message-ID: Looks like it's time to dust off the bicycle. I should be back in the UK by these gigs, what a way to be welcomed home, thanks for the tribute guys:-) The last time I crossed continents with a HW gig was Worthing Assembly Rooms, which I think must have been about the first time Ron played the Bass live. Withdrawal has been long and painful. Dave XXX wrote: > Hello Folks, > > Hawkwind are playing some dates in November, which will include > Norwich Waterfront, 9th Nov. > Waventon Stables 10th Nov. > St Austell Coliseum, 12th Nov. > Croyden Fairfields Halls, 14th Nov. > > These dates will feature "special guests" > > The Brixton Acadamy dates are on hold pending "negotiations" Call them and > inquire! > > Yours Dave Brock From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Wed Sep 29 20:13:04 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:13:04 +0900 Subject: HW: Musings on Epoch Eclipse Message-ID: CDZone finally got around to airmailing me my copy of Epoch Eclipse which arrived yesterday. At last I see what all the fuss is about. It sounds astonishingly similar to one of my "Traffic Jam" MDs! I'll take that as a compliment to my taste in HW. It's good to see that the fine old HW tradition of exactly matching the sleeve notes to the track list is still being observed. Others have mentioned the 19 tracks listed vs the 18 on the CD. Did anyone spot where the Hurry on Sundown demo that the sleeve notes hint to being on the album might be tucked away? Last cogitation from me. I have to admit to disappointment in the Scourge of the Earth Silver Machine. If we were going to get a radical re-interpretation (isn't that what "remix" is all about?) then, IMHO - which is worth exactly what you're paying for it - Future Reconstructions has the edge for adventurousness. Dave (Imagining the masses rioting in the streets of Brixton "NO TO THE LEMMY TAX", aah nostalgia.) From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Thu Sep 30 00:20:54 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:20:54 -0400 Subject: HW: Reunion at Brixton (or anywhere) Message-ID: Put a donation box out front... one for each member... the ultimate popularity contest.. see what the fans really want.. and see who really warrants "extra cash." Lemmy should have no trouble agreeing to this, if he is so sure that he is -that- valuable.. Let's see... last reunion effort, he backed out because HW wouldn't fly him first class... Maybe not his decision- his agent's- but all the same to me. RJ -----Original Message----- From: Bart Brugmans (aka Gekke Henkie) To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Wednesday, September 29, 1999 10:01 AM Subject: Re: HW: Reunion at Brixton (or anywhere) Op 28 Sep 99, om 16:56, Dave Berry schreef: > My suggestion is to take the sum that Lemmy wants, divide it by the number of seats, and let people know that they're paying x pounds per ticket just to see Lemmy play with Hawkwind (on top of the other costs). I reckon most people will gladly pay one or two quid for a "Lemmy tax", which would translate into a couple of grand for him. Like it or loathe it, that's the way the market works. Sound pretty reasonable to me, but what if everybody is gonna ask for some extra cash. It's allright for me to pay a few quid extra just for Lemmy, but I also would like to see Nik and Huw on stage. So what if the ask for a few quid? I would like to say screw all who want a few quid extra, we buy enough records, t-shirts and other shit already. that should be enough. --BArt NP Poison Idea - Motorhead (a nice cover version BTW) From richard.cutting at SYNOPSYS.LTD.UK Thu Sep 30 07:15:19 1999 From: richard.cutting at SYNOPSYS.LTD.UK (Cutting, Richard) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:15:19 +0100 Subject: HW: UK CONCERT 14th NOVEMBER === Message-ID: >From the local paper last night - Hawkind playing Croydon Fairfield Halls on 14th November 1999. Just gone on sale so front row seats are available ( minus 2 !! ). Box office is 020 8688 9291 Richard. ********************************************************************** LEGAL DISCLAIMER ********************************************************************** The contents of this email and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. 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Rich From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Thu Sep 30 08:49:38 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:49:38 -0400 Subject: BOC/BS/SWU: The Girl That Love Made Blind / Gil Blanco County In-Reply-To: <31e4d5ce.2524ab09@aol.com> Message-ID: At 08:01 AM 9/30/99 EDT, you wrote: >Hi Folks, > >I'm falling into my once a year period in which I play nothing but Imaginos >for about a month, and now that we have some extra pieces I'm trying to put a >full tape together, etc. Two Questions: > >Where in the order would TGTLMB go, and does anybody have the lyrics? I know for certain that the running order of the entire trilogy, according to Albert, is found within the FAQ. Gil Blanco County's questions can be found in the same place too. I might be wrong, but didn't Albert post the words to "TGtLMB" to the list about 94/5? or am I thnking about Gil Blanco County? broke my palomino down, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I'm in a FOUL mood today. Stay outa my way or I'll CRITIQUE YOUR ASS to hell. Just ME, just YOU...a decent song. You wanna see THEM, see THEM. I don't give a ****." - Richard Meltzer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From StevenTice at AOL.COM Thu Sep 30 13:12:09 1999 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:12:09 EDT Subject: BOC/BS/SWU: The Girl That Love Made Blind / Gil Blanco County Message-ID: In a message dated 9/30/99 8:19:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, RHamel4129 at AOL.COM writes: << i Folks, I'm falling into my once a year period in which I play nothing but Imaginos for about a month, and now that we have some extra pieces I'm trying to put a full tape together, etc. Two Questions: Where in the order would TGTLMB go, and does anybody have the lyrics? I read somewhere, I think in something Albert wrote, that Gil Blanco County was part of the story, or at least could have been. Can anyone confirm that, and if so, where would that one fall in? I'm assuming that one would be somewhere before Imaginos met up with the Oyster boys? Rich >> Lyrics to Girl: I thought your eyes, blue "Oh no, they're green," she said to me We danced in time or didn't you know This dance was time At the party of astrologers The Christmas tide was due On the way to Alberdan The dance, the dream and you Actuals and counterclaims Dancing all the time Dancing in the corridor And the dance was time At the height of Christmas tide She found a ghost inside Give it up or let it ride She must decide Actuals and counterclaims Drugged, reborn, resigned The castle stands, the girl remains And if she'll spin It's packed with eyes Out there in the corridor Caught there in the mirror maze >From her last and loving glance A waltz, a dance, whose time Not here but gone was time So put me to the question But there's no return from this castle of mine For the powers that be The girl and her dreams The girl that love made blind And that's the last dream We had upon that night The party of astrologers The Christmas of my life Christmas, Christmas, the Christmas of my life -------- Lyrics supplied by Bolle Gregmar. Note: the Imaginos version of this song differs greatly in mood, length, and overall presentation from the Brain Surgeons version of the song. Hopefully someday it (and Albert Bouchard's amazing Imaginos arrangement of Gil Blanco County) will appear on CD! Steven Tice Calliope Comics From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Sep 30 13:26:31 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:26:31 EDT Subject: BOC/BS/SWU: The Girl That Love Made Blind / Gil Blanco Count In-Reply-To: <8a96c371.2524f3e9@aol.com> Message-ID: > From: Steven Tice > > Lyrics to Girl: > > I thought your eyes, blue > "Oh no, they're green," she said to me > We danced in time or didn't you know > This dance was time > > At the party of astrologers > The Christmas tide was due > On the way to Alberdan > The dance, the dream and you > Actuals and counterclaims > Dancing all the time > Dancing in the corridor > And the dance was time > > At the height of Christmas tide > She found a ghost inside > Give it up or let it ride > She must decide > > Actuals and counterclaims > Drugged, reborn, resigned > The castle stands, the girl remains > And if she'll spin > It's packed with eyes > Out there in the corridor > Caught there in the mirror maze > From her last and loving glance > A waltz, a dance, whose time > Not here but gone was time > > So put me to the question > But there's no return from this castle of mine > For the powers that be > The girl and her dreams > The girl that love made blind > > And that's the last dream > We had upon that night > The party of astrologers > The Christmas of my life > > Christmas, Christmas, the Christmas of my life > > -------- > > Lyrics supplied by Bolle Gregmar. > > Note: the Imaginos version of this song differs greatly in mood, length, and > overall presentation from the Brain Surgeons version of the song. Hopefully > someday it (and Albert Bouchard's amazing Imaginos arrangement of Gil Blanco > County) will appear on CD! > > Steven Tice Steve, Thanks for posting the lyrics. I hate to completely expose my ignorance, but who wrote the lyrics, Al or SP? Whoever the author, they're great lyrics... theo From StevenTice at AOL.COM Thu Sep 30 14:13:47 1999 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:13:47 EDT Subject: Imaginos/Half Life Time Message-ID: In a message dated 9/30/99 1:32:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes: << Steve, Thanks for posting the lyrics. I hate to completely expose my ignorance, but who wrote the lyrics, Al or SP? Whoever the author, they're great lyrics... theo >> As with all Imaginos lyrics, Girl was written by Sandy Pearlman. If Albert made any changes to Sandy's originals, he'll have to tell us. :-) And, if you liked THOSE lyrics, check out these lyrics to Half Life Time, another "lost" Imaginos song: Half Life Time The fourth world stands behind the third world The third world opposite stands behind you When the bones of our oppressors have turned to dust And the cause we serve rules the world Then a vision, a visitation All hail the revolution You who have nothing to lose but your lives You who fear to die more than once In red, go riding It's Half Life Time Now begins the time of life ride Ghosts they are, they walk the Earth Casualties not necromantic The furnace affords them birth Within Europa's fiery furnace The last page of prophecy I am the ghost of countless yearnings Burn we now for victory! After midnight in the prison yard The red virgins come to set you free A lie called truth is on their lips They do not come to bring you sleep Red for wine dress of the lord The bonds that cut our energy Energy imprisoned must make itself free Easter Sunday, Saint John's Night The messenger sleeps between us tonight If he wakes before the dawn The message will not be wrong If he wakes after light The message will not be right One for the loved one, one for the life One for the husband and one for the wife Now begins the time of life ride Ghosts they are, they walk the Earth Casualties not necromantic The fiery furnace affords them birth Within Europa's fiery furnace The last page of prophecy I am the ghost of countless yearnings Burn we now for victory! On the starship field with the ruler's son He dreams of revolution, but this chosen one Will not dream of you Plutonia, the dream state beckons Country of the Half Life Time Areana, the northern sun Agent of the first design This world will not end with a whimper The cries of anguish our victory History becomes your test Energy imprisoned must make itself free (dated 1978) Lyrics courtesy Bolle again...this is one of the spookiest songs I've ever heard, another track I hope will appear on disc someday. Steven Tice From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Thu Sep 30 14:22:04 1999 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:22:04 +0100 Subject: HW TOTP2 video Message-ID: On account of having inadvertently included copyright images in avi file I posted to the web recently, I have this evening removed the file. Alasdair -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From StevenTice at AOL.COM Thu Sep 30 14:26:31 1999 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:26:31 EDT Subject: Imaginos track order Message-ID: 1. I Am The One You Warned Me Of 2. Imaginos 3. Gil Blanco County 4. Del Rio's Song 5. Blue Oyster Cult 6. Les Invisibles 7. The Girl Love Made Blind 8. The Siege...Frankenstein 9. In the Presence of Another World 10. Blue Oyster Cult Reprise 11. Astronomy 12. Magna of Illusion 13. Magna Reprise BOC Reprise is an instrumental version of a portion of that track, with a focus on the drums. Magna Reprise is an a cappella version of about the first third of the lyrics to that song, although if you listen closely there's an acoustic guitar in the background keeping time. Steven Tice From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Sep 30 13:28:26 1999 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:28:26 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind reunion dates Message-ID: I would like to make the trip down and get to some of these. However, which "special guests" are you talking about, and at which venues? Dave -----Original Message----- From: XXX To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 29 September 1999 23:40 Subject: Hawkwind reunion dates >Hello Folks, > >Hawkwind are playing some dates in November, which will include >Norwich Waterfront, 9th Nov. >Waventon Stables 10th Nov. >St Austell Coliseum, 12th Nov. >Croyden Fairfields Halls, 14th Nov. > >These dates will feature "special guests" > >The Brixton Acadamy dates are on hold pending "negotiations" Call them and >inquire! > >Yours Dave Brock > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Sep 30 14:46:59 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:46:59 -0400 Subject: HW TOTP2 video In-Reply-To: <199909301823.TAA17513@camelot.netcom.net.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Alasdair Macdonald wrote: => On account of having inadvertently included copyright images in avi => file I posted to the web recently, I have this evening removed the file. I guess one of "the powers that be" took you aside for a quick word, then? :-( Stupid bugger that I am, I did not download this during the brief time it was up, and, being in the USA, had no chance to watch the actual broadcast. Is there some kind soul that did download it that can avail me of a copy (i.e., is willing temporarily to put it up for me to download, or else be prepared to FTP it to me)? Reply to me directly, for fear of attracting further the wrath of those that might object... Cheers, Paul. PS: Actually, I thought it would be the copyrighted *audio* that you'd catch hell for, Alasdair, as you said you sync'd with the version from _Stasis_... :-) e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Sep 30 15:06:09 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:06:09 EDT Subject: Imaginos/Half Life Time In-Reply-To: <83fc9e05.2525025b@aol.com> Message-ID: > From: Steven Tice > > Half Life Time > [Amazing lyrics snipped] Well, doesn't this speak volumes about BOC's songwriting doldrums? The double whammy of SP and Al departing the band left a huge lyric void that never was filled. Imagine going from great stuff like this to 'Make Rock Not War' or 'Beat 'em Up!' Sure, occasional flashes of lyric inspiration [c.f. Harvest Moon] bust through the murk, but damn!, SP's lyrics really had such a huge impact on the mystery that swirled around BOC's first 3 great albums. The music has always been uniformly great, but the lyrics never seemed to recapture those early days... theo From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Sep 30 15:08:35 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:08:35 -0400 Subject: OFF: Godspeed You Black Emperor! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 26 Sep 1999, Andy Gilham wrote: => Gee, thanks Chris! I've seen them live three times this year, including => twice on consecutive nights (and I'd never done that for any band ever => including Hawkwind!*), and they really are blinding live. And the F#A#00 => album made great listening at max volume down the M1 today as well! I discovered that Godspeed You Black Emperor! are playing this Saturday at The Wherehouse in Winston-Salem, NC, which is "only" a little over 2 hours drive away from me. Are they worth seeing? I have no idea what they sound like, but people appear to be raving about them on here. If it help any, I am partial to the music of the Rev. Gary Davis (piedmont bluesman), whom, I notice, gets a dedication on the back of one of their albums. Oh, and does anyone have any clue as to where The Wherehouse actually is? Phone number?? Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Thu Sep 30 16:06:00 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:06:00 -0400 Subject: BOC: dem words dem words dem wild words heed the word of de cult... In-Reply-To: <7E4E6F388C@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: At 03:06 PM 9/30/99 EDT, Ted wrote: >Well, doesn't this speak volumes about BOC's songwriting doldrums? >The double whammy of SP and Al departing the band left a huge lyric >void that never was filled. Imagine going from great stuff like this >to 'Make Rock Not War' or 'Beat 'em Up!' Although, Beat em Up can be excused because it wasnt written "in house." We can sneer at BOC for a momentary lapse of reason in agreeing to set them to music. Aong those lines, the fact it took more than one person to write "Let Go" never ceases to scare/amaze me! heheh >Sure, occasional flashes of lyric inspiration [c.f. Harvest Moon] >bust through the murk, but damn!, SP's lyrics really had such a huge >impact on the mystery that swirled around BOC's first 3 great albums. >The music has always been uniformly great, but the lyrics never >seemed to recapture those early days... What struck me the most about the lyrics of Heaven Forbid is that they seem to be, besides not being as cool as "Cities on Flame," a try at being more contemporary with song content. And lyrics about the times in which they were written were never a trademark of BOC. For me, those "Golden Days" were most imp[reessive in that the lyrical content of the songs did not describe anything we could think of as relating to everyday life (well, the angst of Death Valley Nights or "In Thee's" nostalgia might be exceptions). After all our world is not "redeemed by a country song", nor full of silverfish imperatrixes(?), harvesters of eyes or diz-Busters. Add the boffo verbiage to the strange amalgam of styles that became the Music, a strangley marked O and an alien first LP cover -- what do ya got? Something diametrically opposed to "Whole Lotta Love" or "Problem Child" blues/rock. But then again the blues/rock did groudn itself in the fact the experiences they talk about could be done by human beings. BOC's try to be more topical (throw in "Real World," "see you in black") almost 30 years since it hit the streets with what we all know and love, just seems "alien" to the band we think they are. Not to mention the fact that John Shirley seems to a have a completely diffent view of what work lyrics perform in songs on the audient. By the way, if you order the 30th Anniversary court of the crimson king, make sure they actually send you that version of the CD :)(They sent me the old 'un) Gimme Nothing, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Sep 30 18:54:16 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:54:16 +0100 Subject: OFF: Godspeed You Black Emperor! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I discovered that Godspeed You Black Emperor! are playing this Saturday > at The Wherehouse in Winston-Salem, NC, which is "only" a little over 2 > hours drive away from me. > > Are they worth seeing? Well, yes... --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Sep 30 19:05:23 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 00:05:23 +0100 Subject: dem words dem words dem wild words heed the word of de cult... In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990930160600.00693f80@mail1.wizvax.net> Message-ID: I may be able to respond better in the a.m., but I jjst got back from pissing it up with Rich L... Anyway, the master of the incomprehensible-but-somehow-deeply-moving lyric is Roger Roky Kynard Erickson, with such great stuff as "Sputnik your theory/Alien I creator". And "I walked with a zombie - last night..." More in the a.m. --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Bolts of Ungodly Vision > Sent: 30 September 1999 21:06 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: BOC: dem words dem words dem wild words heed the word of de > cult... > > > At 03:06 PM 9/30/99 EDT, Ted wrote: > >Well, doesn't this speak volumes about BOC's songwriting doldrums? > >The double whammy of SP and Al departing the band left a huge lyric > >void that never was filled. Imagine going from great stuff like this > >to 'Make Rock Not War' or 'Beat 'em Up!' > > Although, Beat em Up can be excused because it wasnt written "in house." > We can sneer at BOC for a momentary lapse of reason in agreeing to set > them to music. Aong those lines, the fact it took more than one person to > write "Let Go" never ceases to scare/amaze me! heheh > > >Sure, occasional flashes of lyric inspiration [c.f. Harvest Moon] > >bust through the murk, but damn!, SP's lyrics really had such a huge > >impact on the mystery that swirled around BOC's first 3 great albums. > >The music has always been uniformly great, but the lyrics never > >seemed to recapture those early days... > > What struck me the most about the lyrics of Heaven Forbid is that > they seem > to be, besides not being as cool as "Cities on Flame," a try at > being more > contemporary with song content. And lyrics about the times in which they > were written were never a trademark of BOC. For me, those "Golden Days" > were most imp[reessive in that the lyrical content of the songs did not > describe anything we could think of as relating to everyday life > (well, the > angst of Death Valley Nights or "In Thee's" nostalgia might be > exceptions). After all our world is not "redeemed by a country song", nor > full of silverfish imperatrixes(?), harvesters of eyes or > diz-Busters. Add > the boffo verbiage to the strange amalgam of styles that became > the Music, > a strangley marked O and an alien first LP cover -- what do ya got? > Something diametrically opposed to "Whole Lotta Love" or "Problem Child" > blues/rock. But then again the blues/rock did groudn itself in the fact > the experiences they talk about could be done by human beings. BOC's try > to be more topical (throw in "Real World," "see you in black") almost 30 > years since it hit the streets with what we all know and love, just seems > "alien" to the band we think they are. Not to mention the fact that John > Shirley seems to a have a completely diffent view of what work lyrics > perform in songs on the audient. > > By the way, if you order the 30th Anniversary court of the crimson king, > make sure they actually send you that version of the CD :)(They > sent me the > old 'un) > > Gimme Nothing, > Jason > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." > -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Thu Sep 30 19:36:57 1999 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 00:36:57 +0100 Subject: HW TOTP2 video In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Paul The objection came from a list memeber whose stills I copied to fill 18 seconds of non-BBC images at the start of the video. I will redo the vid without his images, and offer it either by CD-ROM trade or download. Sorry for any difficulties you may have experienced. Thanks for your comments, Netcom reveals 100+ downloads, I've had few responses other than the copyright objection (which was unintentional and I regret), but I have no difficulty with sending out the BBC broadcast and I will endeavour to do so in a format which no list member could object to. Alasdair On 30 Sep 99, at 14:46, Paul Mather wrote: > On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Alasdair Macdonald wrote: > > => On account of having inadvertently included copyright images in avi => > file I posted to the web recently, I have this evening removed the file. > > I guess one of "the powers that be" took you aside for a quick word, > then? :-( > > Stupid bugger that I am, I did not download this during the brief time it > was up, and, being in the USA, had no chance to watch the actual > broadcast. Is there some kind soul that did download it that can avail me > of a copy (i.e., is willing temporarily to put it up for me to download, > or else be prepared to FTP it to me)? Reply to me directly, for fear of > attracting further the wrath of those that might object... > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > PS: Actually, I thought it would be the copyrighted *audio* that you'd > catch hell for, Alasdair, as you said you sync'd with the version from > _Stasis_... :-) > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." > --- James Marshall Hendrix > -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Sep 30 20:01:18 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 01:01:18 +0100 Subject: Imaginos/Half Life Time In-Reply-To: <7E4E6F388C@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Ted Jackson jr. s2h2 wrote: > Sure, occasional flashes of lyric inspiration [c.f. Harvest Moon] > bust through the murk, but damn!, SP's lyrics really had such a huge > impact on the mystery that swirled around BOC's first 3 great albums. > The music has always been uniformly great, but the lyrics never > seemed to recapture those early days... 'Tis all too true... Though, I tell you what else is good, letting John Shirley's lyrics slip aside for the moment (ergh), I have on phones at this moment _Chemical Wedding_ by Bruce Dickinson, which the lamentably departed Carl Anderson was quite right to attempt to persuade me was comparable to _Imaginos_ in is grandeur and its lyrical virtuosity... Most of it lifted from Blake but, hell, Sandy owed rather a lot to Lovecraft didn't he, it's the arrangement of words that makes for the marvel in these cases. Yours, Jon From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Sep 30 20:13:35 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 01:13:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet @ the Brighton Bar, 27/09/99 Message-ID: Hey people, thought there might be relief to know that the latest Monster Magnet show, though still heavy on _Powertrip_ material, featured no burning guitars, dancing girls, or Dave being a Kiss-o-phile, but did feature a ten-minute plus `Spine Of God' and a cover of `The Right Stuff', according to information on my other list... Yours, Jon From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Sep 30 20:29:03 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 01:29:03 +0100 Subject: HW: 70's Synths In-Reply-To: <37E6660A.7C6501D4@unibw-muenchen.de> Message-ID: On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Denis Regenbrecht wrote: > I'm currently reading a book about synthesizers (one of my hobbies, btw) > and now I wonder what synthies DikMik and Del used in their time with > Hawkwind. > I know that Tim Blake used both EMS (VCS3 & AKS) and Moog synths and I > suppose D&D also used them. But does someone here know it exactly? Not seen any replies to this, though I may have missed them... Anyway, the sleeve notes to the remaster of HW say that Del used a VCS3 at that time, and I assume since his sound didn't change much it stayed that way mostly? Other people could probably contribute more... I believe Dik Mik on the other hand was a build-your-own man. Some day I must find out if I actually _do_ know where he drinks or if my informant was making it up. Yours, Jon From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Thu Sep 30 20:39:22 1999 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:39:22 -0500 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet @ the Brighton Bar, 27/09/99 Message-ID: Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > the latest Monster Magnet show featured . . . > a ten-minute plus `Spine Of God' and a cover of `The Right Stuff', > according to information on my other list... Is this the same "The Right Stuff" that was mentioned here a week ago? >The Right Stuff, by Pressurehed (I know this was on an album, but which?) That's on _Sudden Vertigo_, which I just got! Pretty good CD (especially "Slo Blo"), but I prefer _Explaining the Unexplained_. TRS by Pressurehed also appears on _HW F&R Vol 6 - Cosmic Travellers_. 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