From peter at FAIRFIELD.KAROO.CO.UK Sat May 1 00:26:28 1999 From: peter at FAIRFIELD.KAROO.CO.UK (Peter Greendale) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 05:26:28 +0100 Subject: BOC; Cozy Powell Tribute Concert Sunday Message-ID: I am surprised that there has been no mention of this so far................... Apparently there is to be a tribute/benefit concert for the late Cozy Powell this Sunday. According to BBC radio last night, this concert will feature various members of Black Sabbath, Marillion, (plus others)............ and member(s) of Blue Oyster Cult! Now this is all info. I have , I cannot be more precise, but this is definitely what the BBC man said. Anybody planning on going ? Peter Greendale Hull England. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat May 1 03:07:45 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 03:07:45 EDT Subject: hello Message-ID: In a message dated 4/30/99 7:11:01 PM, riordan at AUSTIN.RR.COM writes: <> it's like you never left! "<>" From ted at ALGER.DEMON.CO.UK Sat May 1 07:00:51 1999 From: ted at ALGER.DEMON.CO.UK (Ted Alger) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 11:00:51 +0000 Subject: BOC: Cozy Powell Tribute Concert Sunday In-Reply-To: <372A8273.8F7B6206@fairfield.karoo.co.uk> Message-ID: >Apparently there is to be a tribute/benefit concert for the late Cozy >Powell this Sunday. > and member(s) of Blue Oyster Cult! >Now this is all info. I have , I cannot be more precise, but this is >definitely what the BBC man said. Bobby Rondinelli is going to be there. Noone else from the band though... Apparently Chuck Burgi is filling in for 3 shows on the east coast. >From what Eric posted on AOL, I guess Chuck was in S. America playing with Enrique Iglesias and flew up just to do these shows so Bobby could come over for the tribute. Ted From squinn at PALMNET.NET Sat May 1 07:24:59 1999 From: squinn at PALMNET.NET (Shawn Quinn) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 07:24:59 -0400 Subject: BOC; Cozy Powell Tribute Concert Sunday In-Reply-To: <372A8273.8F7B6206@fairfield.karoo.co.uk> Message-ID: Recently read a review for a BOC Rhode Island Show on the blueoystercult newsgroup - Chuck Bergi filled in for Bobby who is off supporting the tribute. Shawn At 05:26 AM 5/1/99 +0100, you wrote: >I am surprised that there has been no mention of this so >far................... >Apparently there is to be a tribute/benefit concert for the late Cozy >Powell this Sunday. According to BBC radio last night, this concert will >feature various members of Black Sabbath, Marillion, (plus >others)............ and member(s) of Blue Oyster Cult! >Now this is all info. 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Randy From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Sat May 1 08:47:45 1999 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 14:47:45 +0200 Subject: Off: The MOOR + Nik T Message-ID: Swedish band The Moor will play 2 gigs in Germany with Nik Turner: On Friday, May 14th in Heidelberg, Schwimmbad Club, Tiergartenstr. 13 On Saturday, May 15th in K?ngen (near Stuttgart), Jugendhaus Trafo, Dengendorfer Str. 1 - + support Der Kampf gegen den Schlaf Both gigs will be recorded for a future live album. In Heidelberg there will be no support act, but the band promised to play at least for 3 and a half hours! They?ll present the best stuff from their 2 CDs and a lot of Turner stuff. Their vocalist Hans Moell isn?t with them anymore, instead of him Knut Gerwert will sing, and that includes some Calvert stuff as well. More info at: http://home.t-online.de/home/sonicattack/li-moor.htm From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat May 1 10:20:10 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 10:20:10 -0400 Subject: BOC; Cozy Powell Tribute Concert Sunday In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990501072656.03b56340@pop.interaccess.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 1 May 1999, Randy wrote: =>At 06:38 AM 5/1/99 Shawn Quinn Posted:happy99.exe => =>Hey Shawn what was that happy99.exe you posted to the list? =>i did not even get a chance to see what it was before my antivirus program =>detected it as a virus and automatically deleted it.... It is exactly that---a virus which tries to propagate through e-mail. Shawn should get some anti-virus software and disinfect his machine, or else switch to an operating system that doesn't support viruses. ;-) Cheers, Paul. NP: Robin Trower, _This Was Then: '74--'98_ obBOC-L: Where exactly is this Cozy Powell tribute taking place? e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Sat May 1 10:29:22 1999 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 16:29:22 +0200 Subject: BOC; Cozy Powell Tribute Concert Sunday In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990501072656.03b56340@pop.interaccess.com> Message-ID: >At 06:38 AM 5/1/99 Shawn Quinn Posted:happy99.exe > >Hey Shawn what was that happy99.exe you posted to the list? >i did not even get a chance to see what it was before my antivirus program >detected it as a virus and automatically deleted it.... > >Randy and good old mcafee detected it on my pc too. so be careful and check your files if you still don't know if you are infected with happy99. anybody else DON'T open the attachtment. andre From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat May 1 10:55:29 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 10:55:29 EDT Subject: BOC; Cozy Powell Tribute Concert Sunday Message-ID: sorry, got a mac; nothin i can do w/that other than forward it to a few friends w/pc's... it's the thought that counts, though. "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat May 1 11:05:29 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 11:05:29 EDT Subject: RED ALERT VIRUS WARNING RED ALERT VIRUS WARNING Message-ID: In a message dated 5/1/99 8:29:45 AM, hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM writes: <> GODDAMMIT!!! YOU WANNA BITCH ABOUT TRAINS???? HAPPY 99.EXE IS A VIRUS ,REPEAT A VIRUS, AND IT WONT HURT MY MAC BUT IT JUST MIGHT FUCK SOME OF YOU PEOPLE UP From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat May 1 11:11:48 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 11:11:48 EDT Subject: DELETE THAT &&^%%$ FILE!!! I'M REPEATING IT AGAIN!!! Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: DASLUD at aol.com Subject: RED ALERT VIRUS WARNING RED ALERT VIRUS WARNING Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 11:05:29 EDT Size: 878 URL: From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat May 1 11:23:32 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 11:23:32 -0400 Subject: RED ALERT VIRUS WARNING RED ALERT VIRUS WARNING In-Reply-To: <73825bc1.245c7239@aol.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 1 May 1999 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: =>In a message dated 5/1/99 8:29:45 AM, hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM writes: => =>< =>Hey Shawn what was that happy99.exe you posted to the list? =>i did not even get a chance to see what it was before my antivirus program =>detected it as a virus and automatically deleted it.... => =>Randy =>>> =>GODDAMMIT!!! YOU WANNA BITCH ABOUT TRAINS???? HAPPY 99.EXE IS A VIRUS ,REPEAT =>A VIRUS, AND IT WONT HURT MY MAC BUT IT JUST MIGHT FUCK SOME OF YOU PEOPLE UP The difference is that it is highly unlikely that Shawn *knowingly* posted Happy99.exe to the list. What is likely is that Happy99.exe posted *itself* to the list (that's how it propagates). Now if Happy99.exe starts posting enormous AVIs about trains to the list, *then* it's time to start worrying and COMPLAINING LOUDLY ABOUT IT IN ALL CAPITALS (WITH EXCESS PUNCTUATION!!!!!!!!). ;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat May 1 11:29:38 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 11:29:38 EDT Subject: BOC; Cozy Powell Tribute Concert Sunday Message-ID: yeah, um, i got a little excited just now because when i got that file, i thought it was a flyer for that powell gig and i forwarded it to half a dozen friends, whom i'll call after typing this to reinforce that they shouldnt open that ##**&^&^& file...i got an e-mail warning about EXACTLY THIS VIRUS 3 weeks or so ago...i "IM'd" a friend online and confirmed what i'd momentarily forgotten, and then i e-mailed BOC-L and my friends immediately...i didnt read other BOC-L mail which had already warned of the virus...gee for once i thought i was doing something good here...this has all taken place within a half hour on my end... i have personally put the machines of half a dozen of my friends at risk because of this...c'mon, arent you gonna have an even BIGGER blanket party for this fellow than the one i got over that cursed AVI? i am....mostly....kidding....-_- "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat May 1 11:32:28 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 11:32:28 EDT Subject: BOC; Cozy Powell Tribute Concert Sunday Message-ID: In a message dated 5/1/99 10:56:56 AM, DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: <" >> yeah, that stupid DASLUD..."nothin i can do but send a #@!%$&&^% VIRUS to a few friends w/pc's..." damn. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat May 1 12:24:53 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 12:24:53 EDT Subject: RED ALERT VIRUS WARNING RED ALERT VIRUS WARNING Message-ID: In a message dated 5/1/99 11:23:47 AM, paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU writes: << The difference is that it is highly unlikely that Shawn *knowingly* posted Happy99.exe to the list. What is likely is that Happy99.exe posted *itself* to the list (that's how it propagates). Now if Happy99.exe starts posting enormous AVIs about trains to the list, *then* it's time to start worrying and COMPLAINING LOUDLY ABOUT IT IN ALL CAPITALS (WITH EXCESS PUNCTUATION!!!!!!!!). ;-) >> if you are saying that the virus could have "sent itself" through shawn on its own, w/o him having anything to do w/it, well, in light of possible/likely responses i'll get from this and the several other things i sent in regarding the virus, how bout if i quit. sorry y'all From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Sat May 1 12:45:56 1999 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 18:45:56 +0200 Subject: Off: Bedouin. Message-ID: Hi there! Five new copies of the Bedouin CD-R (first released in January this year) are available for those of you that not had the chance to buy a copy last time. The bootlegger told me that these are the last ones to be made so the total# made is now 15. Alan Davey - Bedouin / Tres Hombres -Live ?98 - LWR CD009, January 1999. Total playing time 73:08 minutes. Sound-quality = 9 out of 10 on a ten grade scale. Tracks:Intro/The call, Queen of the night, Vision quest, Ancient light/unknown (Death on the Nile), Arioch, Sputnik Stan, Passion is an animal, Sword of the east, Chasing the dragon, LSD. The cover looks really great with Alan playing his bass. Price is ? 10 / $ 15 including p&p (earth). Fans living elsewhere: ask for p&p. Cheers Hawkswede From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Sat May 1 13:31:21 1999 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (James A Hogard) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 12:31:21 -0500 Subject: BOC; Cozy Powell Tribute Concert Sunday Message-ID: Randy writes: >Hey Shawn what was that happy99.exe you posted to the list? >i did not even get a chance to see what it was before my antivirus >program >detected it as a virus and automatically deleted it.... It just shows you a little fireworks animation, which is much less impressive than what it does to your computer while you're distracted by the display. From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Sat May 1 13:44:23 1999 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (James A Hogard) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 12:44:23 -0500 Subject: BOC; Cozy Powell Tribute Concert Sunday Message-ID: >i have personally put the machines of half a dozen of my friends at >risk >because of this...c'mon, arent you gonna have an even BIGGER blanket >party >for this fellow than the one i got over that cursed AVI? >i am....mostly....kidding....-_- Well, Larry, it's my opinion that Shawn wasn't aware of his infection with this virus until today, and he certainly didn't intend to spread it. It's my opinion that you, on the other hand, have shown a rather consistent failure to think before posting over several weeks. Your "shouting", profanity, finger-pointing, and low signal-to-noise ratio today are the most recent example. From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat May 1 14:25:20 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 19:25:20 +0100 Subject: BOC; Cozy Powell Tribute Concert Sunday In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990501162708.0094d010@pop.casema.net> Message-ID: In message <4.1.19990501162708.0094d010 at pop.casema.net>, cosmos writes >>At 06:38 AM 5/1/99 Shawn Quinn Posted:happy99.exe >> >>Hey Shawn what was that happy99.exe you posted to the list? >>i did not even get a chance to see what it was before my antivirus program >>detected it as a virus and automatically deleted it.... >> >>Randy > >and good old mcafee detected it on my pc too. >so be careful and check your files if you still don't know >if you are infected with happy99. > >anybody else DON'T open the attachtment. > >andre I guess demon didn't even forward it to me. I didn't even receive the mail. Oh by the way, I spoke to God, he said that wasn't him on BOC-L. He doesn't spam. -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat May 1 14:28:41 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 19:28:41 +0100 Subject: BOC; Cozy Powell Tribute Concert Sunday In-Reply-To: <1f7e837.245c77e2@aol.com> Message-ID: In message <1f7e837.245c77e2 at aol.com>, DASLUD at AOL.COM writes >yeah, um, i got a little excited just now because when i got that file, i >thought it was a flyer for that powell gig and i forwarded it to half a dozen >friends, You forwarded an *.exe file without even knowing what it was? Crumbs. -- Jon From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat May 1 14:36:26 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 14:36:26 -0400 Subject: RED ALERT VIRUS WARNING RED ALERT VIRUS WARNING In-Reply-To: <286f6fb0.245c84d5@aol.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 1 May 1999 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: =>if you are saying that the virus could have "sent itself" through shawn on =>its own, w/o him having anything to do w/it, Yes. When run, Happy99 infects WSOCK32.DLL in the WINDOWS\SYSTEM directly. All Internet connectivity is handled by that DLL. When an e-mail is sent by the user, Happy99 intervenes and also sends another message with the same subject to the same user (or posts to the same newsgroup), but the body of the message is a UUEncoded copy of Happy99 instead. If that user UUDecodes and successfully runs the resultant file, his or her system will be infected, too. So, the only thing Shawn did wrong was to get infected in the first place (by running the attached EXE). He's not spreading around Happy99---it's doing it itself. BTW, as you've now gathered, it's not good form to forward manually Happy99 onto other people. ;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat May 1 14:56:37 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 14:56:37 EDT Subject: BOC; Cozy Powell Tribute Concert Sunday Message-ID: In a message dated 5/1/99 1:48:20 PM, james.hogard at JUNO.COM writes: <> i've concurred, and i'm outta here From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sat May 1 16:52:07 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 21:52:07 +0100 Subject: OFF: Fixing Happy Message-ID: If you have run Happy99.exe, then all you need to know about how to fix it can be found at http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/happy99.worm.html - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat May 1 16:57:48 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 21:57:48 +0100 Subject: OFF: Fixing Happy In-Reply-To: <000001be9414$79bc6880$993f63c3@default> Message-ID: In message <000001be9414$79bc6880$993f63c3 at default>, Andy Gilham writes >If you have run Happy99.exe, then all you need to know about how to fix it >can be found at > >http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/happy99.worm.html > >- Andy Well done, Andy, useful post. -- Jon From john.m.gray at CWIX.COM Sat May 1 17:49:24 1999 From: john.m.gray at CWIX.COM (John Gray) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 14:49:24 -0700 Subject: Bedouin. Message-ID: If you can reserve me one. As soon as I know I will get payment out to you. Thanks, John Gray ----- Original Message ----- From: Henrik Hallgren To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Saturday, May 01, 1999 09:45 Subject: Off: Bedouin. > Hi there! > > Five new copies of the Bedouin CD-R (first released in January this year) are available for those of you that not had the chance to buy a copy last time. The bootlegger told me that these are the last ones to be made so the total# made is now 15. > > Alan Davey - Bedouin / Tres Hombres -Live ?98 - LWR CD009, January 1999. > > Total playing time 73:08 minutes. > > Sound-quality = 9 out of 10 on a ten grade scale. > > Tracks:Intro/The call, Queen of the night, Vision quest, Ancient > light/unknown (Death on the Nile), Arioch, Sputnik Stan, Passion is an animal, Sword of the > east, Chasing the dragon, LSD. > > The cover looks really great with Alan playing his bass. > > Price is ? 10 / $ 15 including p&p (earth). Fans living elsewhere: ask for p&p. > > Cheers > > Hawkswede > From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Sat May 1 19:42:21 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 19:42:21 -0400 Subject: BOC: MoFi's blurb on BOCTM Message-ID: SKU: UDCD738 Price: 24.95 USD BOC fans, the wait is over! Mobile Fidelity has paired Tyranny And Mutation with the first BOC recording, Blue Oyster Cult as a two LP on one CD release. And to add even more value to the set, BOC management has kindly provided first-time lyrics and liner notes written by original band member and lead vocalist Eric Bloom. Eric?s notes tell the story of a BOC gig which eventually led to their first record deal. The self-titled album was released by Columbia in 1972 with Tyranny following in 1973. This BOC two-fer showcases the band at their best with the Rolling Stone Album Guide and All Music Guide To Rock giving both recordings 4-stars. Mastered using the original GAIN System?, you may now indulge your Blue Oyster Cult fantasies without the high-end audio guilt! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Sat May 1 20:11:45 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 17:11:45 -0700 Subject: BOC: MoFi's blurb on BOCTM Message-ID: >without the high-end audio guilt! Do they mean that it was possible to make BOC/T&M sound good buy just by buying an outrageously expensive stereo? Why didn't anyone tell us?!? ;-) I'm itching for the mofo MoFi CD and the new Bevis Frond CD. The cover art for BF is on display at http://www.flydaddy.com/ now. By the time we get to hear these records, the new Star Wars movie will almost be out. Aaarg! I'm also itching to make my mix tape for BOC-L, but I need to buy a better blank tape and I don't want to finish it before the BF CD comes out in case it has a really good track on it. How's business? I feel like going to sleep right now. I have a headache (Prolly shouldn't be starin' at the computer screen, I know) right behind my eyes. Oh well. obTUNE: "Red House" by Shudder To Think off of an old mix tape. Pretty cool for a regular-like pop tune. Supposedly their album before the one this tune is on is supposed to be cool & ecclectic. More art rocky.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, Brian -------------- Brian Halligan Freelance Copywriter (716) 482-9702 bthalligan at earthlink.net -------------- From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Sat May 1 21:43:25 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 21:43:25 -0400 Subject: RED ALERT VIRUS WARNING RED ALERT VIRUS WARNING Message-ID: Happy99 of itself is an annoying joke. DO NOT PANIC. The only danger is that it can pick up -real- virii on the way. Also- do NOT be angry at the guy who posted it. It attaches unknown to ALL mails once it's in. He most likely had NO clue. I see Andy has already posted the fix, so I won't bother... ;) -----Original Message----- From: DASLUD at aol.com To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Saturday, May 01, 1999 11:29 AM Subject: RED ALERT VIRUS WARNING RED ALERT VIRUS WARNING >In a message dated 5/1/99 8:29:45 AM, hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM writes: > >< >Hey Shawn what was that happy99.exe you posted to the list? >i did not even get a chance to see what it was before my antivirus program >detected it as a virus and automatically deleted it.... > >Randy >>> >GODDAMMIT!!! YOU WANNA BITCH ABOUT TRAINS???? HAPPY 99.EXE IS A VIRUS ,REPEAT >A VIRUS, AND IT WONT HURT MY MAC BUT IT JUST MIGHT FUCK SOME OF YOU PEOPLE UP From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Sat May 1 21:46:44 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 21:46:44 -0400 Subject: Off: Bedouin. Message-ID: Does he take credit cards? Seriously. Rj -----Original Message----- From: Henrik Hallgren To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Saturday, May 01, 1999 1:08 PM Subject: Off: Bedouin. Hi there! Five new copies of the Bedouin CD-R (first released in January this year) are available for those of you that not had the chance to buy a copy last time. The bootlegger told me that these are the last ones to be made so the total# made is now 15. Alan Davey - Bedouin / Tres Hombres -Live 498 - LWR CD009, January 1999. Total playing time 73:08 minutes. Sound-quality = 9 out of 10 on a ten grade scale. Tracks:Intro/The call, Queen of the night, Vision quest, Ancient light/unknown (Death on the Nile), Arioch, Sputnik Stan, Passion is an animal, Sword of the east, Chasing the dragon, LSD. The cover looks really great with Alan playing his bass. Price is # 10 / $ 15 including p&p (earth). Fans living elsewhere: ask for p&p. Cheers Hawkswede From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Sat May 1 22:41:56 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 11:41:56 +0900 Subject: Off: Bedouin. Message-ID: Please reserve me one if I'm in time. Dave > Hi there! > > Five new copies of the Bedouin CD-R (first released in January this year) > are available for those of you that not had the chance to buy a copy last > time. The bootlegger told me that these are the last ones to be made so the > total# made is now 15. > > Alan Davey - Bedouin / Tres Hombres -Live 498 - LWR CD009, January 1999. > > Total playing time 73:08 minutes. > > Sound-quality = 9 out of 10 on a ten grade scale. > > Tracks:Intro/The call, Queen of the night, Vision quest, Ancient > light/unknown (Death on the Nile), Arioch, Sputnik Stan, Passion is an > animal, Sword of the > east, Chasing the dragon, LSD. > > The cover looks really great with Alan playing his bass. > > Price is # 10 / $ 15 including p&p (earth). Fans living elsewhere: ask for > p&p. > > Cheers > > Hawkswede -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Sun May 2 04:28:45 1999 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 09:28:45 +0100 Subject: To all interested in Bedouin bootlegs Message-ID: >> Five new copies of the Bedouin CD-R (first released in January this year) >> are available for those of you that not had the chance to buy a copy last >> time. The bootlegger told me that these are the last ones to be made so the >> total# made is now 15. >> >> Alan Davey - Bedouin / Tres Hombres -Live 498 - LWR CD009, January 1999. >> >> Total playing time 73:08 minutes. >> >> Sound-quality = 9 out of 10 on a ten grade scale. >> >> Tracks:Intro/The call, Queen of the night, Vision quest, Ancient >> light/unknown (Death on the Nile), Arioch, Sputnik Stan, Passion is an >> animal, Sword of the >> east, Chasing the dragon, LSD. >> >> The cover looks really great with Alan playing his bass. >> >> Price is # 10 / $ 15 including p&p (earth). Fans living elsewhere: ask for >> p&p. >> >> Cheers >> >> Hawkswede It's inappropriate to advertise bootlegs on a newsgroup that Bedouin read. Alan Davey is not happy about it. If you want to buy their CD's *AND* help the band by rewarding their hard efforts (rather than someone with a tape recorder) then write to: Bedouin PO Box 38 Honiton Devon EX14 9YW They have a hard enough time as it is, without this sort of thing. From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun May 2 08:19:02 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 13:19:02 +0100 Subject: SV: OFF: Bedouin Message-ID: On fre 30 apr 1999 20.08 +0200 "Henrik Hallgren" wrote: > The problem with Bedouin?s music is that we have all heard it before > although it?s very heavy and well done. Alan is rather riding on the Hawkwind covers and his solo stuff from the last few years. They really need to get a record contract and start producing new material. Alan has consistently turned out some solid rockers, hopefully they will go places. But based on your description, I really need to see Dr. Hasbeen! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun May 2 08:31:39 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 13:31:39 +0100 Subject: BOC; Cozy Powell Tribute Concert Sunday Message-ID: On l?r 1 maj 1999 16.29 +0200 cosmos wrote: > anybody else DON'T open the attachtment. I'm not worried--I have a Mac and have been laughing my way through the recent spate of viruses in Windoze world. Not only a lame OS but you have to suffer e-terrorism ;) singing in the rain, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun May 2 08:33:57 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 13:33:57 +0100 Subject: BOC; Cozy Powell Tribute Concert Sunday Message-ID: On l?r 1 maj 1999 11.29 +0000 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > yeah, um, i got a little excited just now because when i got that file, i > thought it was a flyer for that powell gig and i forwarded it to half a dozen > friends, Ah! Never point a loaded computer at someone ;) and never forward what you don't understand. It'd be most embarassing for a Mac to propogate a Windows virus ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun May 2 08:36:09 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 13:36:09 +0100 Subject: OFF: Fixing Happy Message-ID: On l?r 1 maj 1999 21.52 +0100 "Andy Gilham" wrote: > If you have run Happy99.exe, then all you need to know about how to fix it > can be found at www.apple.com ;) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun May 2 08:39:28 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 13:39:28 +0100 Subject: Off: Bedouin. Message-ID: Henrik, you should contact Alan and see if you can get copies of the Live in Europe Summer 1998 CD-R. It's short, but has better sound that _Tres Hombres_. AFAIK, it's only otherwise possible to buy this at gigs. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM Sun May 2 09:15:43 1999 From: drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM (Torgo Sedler) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 06:15:43 PDT Subject: OFF: Happy Happy Virus Virus Joy Joy Message-ID: Hi kids.... First off, a big thank you goes out to the person who decided to upload a virus to the BOC list. May fire ants build an impressive series of nests in your colon. But one good thing about it, it gave me a chance to put some VIRUS software to the test. I use my HOTMAIL account for my BOC-L mail and whenever hotmail detects an attachment it asks you if you would like to download "regular" or download using McAfee's VirusScan. So I chose VirusScan. It scanned the file, then assured me that everything was A-OK. No fear. Godspeed. Smooth sailing. Happy downloading young Grasshopper. Well, I guess this shows you what HOTMAIL'S virus checker is worth. I work with a guy who is fond of saying "it ain't worth the powder to blow it to hell", and I guess this describes it accurately enough. So then I used Norton's FREE VirusScanner (available and updated regularly at the NONAGS site, which I HIGHLY recommend to any PC users), and Norton's caught the virus. I guess this is a good example of what can happen when there is no BOC news to discuss. :^) Torgo has left the building....... *********************************************** DrTorgo at hotmail.com http://welcome.to/torgos *********************************************** _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun May 2 09:19:50 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 14:19:50 +0100 Subject: OFF: Happy Happy Virus Virus Joy Joy Message-ID: On s?n 2 maj 1999 06.15 +0000 "Torgo Sedler" wrote: > Well, I guess this shows you what HOTMAIL'S virus checker is worth. I work > with a guy who is fond of saying "it ain't worth the powder to blow it to > hell", and I guess this describes it accurately enough. Well, Hotmail is owned by Microsoft: what did you _expect_? :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From squinn at PALMNET.NET Sun May 2 10:06:49 1999 From: squinn at PALMNET.NET (Shawn Quinn) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 10:06:49 -0400 Subject: Apologies :( Message-ID: Folks - Please accept my sincerest apologies regarding the happy99.exe worm program. All flames accepted and deserved. I knew I was in trouble when I downloaded my email this morning and saw TWO posts from me. My computer has since been completely scanned and cleaned with Norton Antivirus using the latest Virus update from Symantec's Web site. Interestingly enough is that Norton Antivirus did not even consider this a suspect file and did not detect mods to the winsock files with the old virus data base I had previously installed. Usually, antivirus software can detect this behavior even if the virus or worm program is not explicitly in its database. Many thanks to the folks who reported this back to the group so quickly and with instructions on how to remedy this situation. Once again - I apologize for any inconveniences I have caused to the users of this List Server. Shawn From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Sun May 2 10:49:48 1999 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 16:49:48 +0200 Subject: SV: Re: SV: OFF: Bedouin Message-ID: Hi Carl! I?m sure that if Alan gets a contract he will produce some new and exciting stuff. The band is capable of more than we can hear right now. As I said before, it?s not bad at all but a new set of songs should be nice for a change. All the best Hawkswede >> The problem with Bedouin?s music is that we have all heard it before >> although it?s very heavy and well done. > > Alan is rather riding on the Hawkwind covers and his solo >stuff from the last few years. They really need to get a record >contract and start producing new material. Alan has consistently >turned out some solid rockers, hopefully they will go places. > > But based on your description, I really need to see Dr. Hasbeen! :) > >Cheers, >Carl > >-- >Carl Edlund Anderson >Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic >St. John's College, University of Cambridge >mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk >http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ > From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Sun May 2 10:58:36 1999 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 16:58:36 +0200 Subject: SV: Re: Off: Bedouin. Message-ID: Hi again Carl! I bought two CD?s when I was in Derby recently; "Skinwalker"and "Alien nation" both rather good CD?s. I also noticed that they sold a new video with a few songs and the live CD-R with five songs (total playing time 29:26 min). The price for the CD is ? 10 at the gigs and ?12 if bought on mailorder from the band. I?ve now listened to the two "new" or improved CD?s by Dr Hasbeen and do I like them!?! Better sound and more new tracks. I would say that they?re worth every ?. They cost ? 8 or ?10 each, can?t remember exactly. Because we had to leave soon after the gig was over I didn?t get the chance to speak to Alan unfortunately, he?s a friendly and nice chap from what I remember when I spoke to him down in Hamburg two years ago. Over and out Hawkswede > Henrik, you should contact Alan and see if you can get >copies of the Live in Europe Summer 1998 CD-R. It's short, but >has better sound that _Tres Hombres_. AFAIK, it's only otherwise >possible to buy this at gigs. > >Cheers, >Carl > >-- >Carl Edlund Anderson >Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic >St. John's College, University of Cambridge >mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk >http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ > From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun May 2 11:57:55 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 11:57:55 -0400 Subject: OFF: Fixing Happy In-Reply-To: <100015.3134640969@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Sun, 2 May 1999, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: =>On l?r 1 maj 1999 21.52 +0100 "Andy Gilham" =>wrote: =>> If you have run Happy99.exe, then all you need to know about how to fix it =>> can be found at => => www.apple.com Nah, then you'd have to buy new hardware. An easier (and *much* cheaper) fix can be found at any of: http://www.freebsd.org/ http://www.netbsd.org/ http://www.openbsd.org/ http://www.linux.org/ ;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Sun May 2 11:58:37 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 11:58:37 -0400 Subject: To all interested in Bedouin bootlegs Message-ID: I would buy anything that Alan made available. As I understood it, this was only available at the European gigs, and that they were out of print, and out of circulation. Do you have other information? When Brock saw the discussion of making cd-r's available for the Wierd tapes, he sent a message to the list saying that they would soon become available from the band, which was good enough for most. If Bedouin would like to do the same, they are whole-heartedly invited. If such material is available from the band, then post the ordering information. No use in posting an address to which I can spend half the cost of the CD -asking- if it is available. And the only person who can lay down the law about what is appropriate to post to this list is Ben Cohen. The band is rewarded for their hard efforts when they make their hard efforts available. It took me over a year to track down a copy of the official release of the Bedouin album. >It's inappropriate to advertise bootlegs on a newsgroup that Bedouin read. > >Alan Davey is not happy about it. > >If you want to buy their CD's *AND* help the band by rewarding their hard >efforts (rather than someone with a tape recorder) then write to: > >Bedouin >PO Box 38 >Honiton >Devon >EX14 9YW > >They have a hard enough time as it is, without this sort of thing. From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun May 2 12:03:33 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 17:03:33 +0100 Subject: OFF: Fixing Happy Message-ID: On s?n 2 maj 1999 11.57 -0400 "Paul Mather" wrote: > Nah, then you'd have to buy new hardware. An easier (and *much* > cheaper) fix can be found at any of: > > http://www.freebsd.org/ > http://www.netbsd.org/ > http://www.openbsd.org/ > http://www.linux.org/ Ah, but there aren't enough Linux apps yet. I'd have to learn to program so that I could write the ones I needed. Give them a couple of years, and _then_ we'll have something :) Cheers, Carl, who notes that there's Linux for Macs as well :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Sun May 2 12:03:32 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 12:03:32 -0400 Subject: Apologies :( Message-ID: Apologies, yes. Flames, HELL NO. Those who flamed should take the time to educate themselves before shooting off. It could just as easily have been any of those people who posted the relatively harmless trojan to the list. The only thing -you- are guilty of, besides not having a decent AV program, is running the executable in the first place. Dumb, but forgivable. >Folks - > >Please accept my sincerest apologies regarding the happy99.exe worm >program. All flames accepted and deserved. I knew I was in trouble when >I downloaded my email this morning and saw TWO posts from me. My computer >has since been completely scanned and cleaned with Norton Antivirus using >the latest Virus update from Symantec's Web site. Interestingly enough is >that Norton Antivirus did not even consider this a suspect file and did not >detect mods to the winsock files with the old virus data base I had >previously installed. Usually, antivirus software can detect this behavior >even if the virus or worm program is not explicitly in its database. > >Many thanks to the folks who reported this back to the group so quickly and >with instructions on how to remedy this situation. > >Once again - I apologize for any inconveniences I have caused to the users >of this List Server. > >Shawn > From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun May 2 12:26:04 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 17:26:04 +0100 Subject: To all interested in Bedouin bootlegs Message-ID: I agree that people will be less interested in buying Bedouin bootlegs if Bedouin make more material available--and permit audience taping. Right now Bedouin *both* prohibit live taping _and_ don't have anything which people can easily buy. But they do have a band which people are desperate to listen to. Is it any surprise that someone snuck a recording and pressed a CD-R? Is it any wonder that people want to buy it? If Bedouin allowed live taping, this would be much less likely to happen--as innumerable bands have proven again and again and again. I brought my recorder to a Bedouin gig and asked whether it was OK to tape (as I always try to). I was told "no", so didn't tape since I'm an honest sort. But I knew someone, somewhere would tape it and that because there would be so few tapes around for trades that there would eventually be bootlegs for sale. And I was not wrong. On the other hand, freely available tapes would kill the market for bootlegs and spread word about the band far more widely than than they can now, with no record, no contract, and no distribution beyond a table at their gigs! (As innumerable bands have proven again and again and again!) It should tell Alan and the band something when bootleg CD makers have better distribution than they do themselves! Why is it that there are bootlegs available for Henrik to sell, and not official Bedouin recordings? I don't think anyone on this list would prefer to buy bootlegs over official material--they just need official material to buy! There is a _market_ for Bedouin's music which is currently _only_ being filled by bootleggers! IMO, Bedouin should be selling their own CD-Rs though independant record dealers like Henrik, Delerium, etc. IMO, Bedouin are a great band. I'm a poor student, but I've bought Alan's solo CDs and the _one_ actual Bedouin mini- album (the Live 1998 one) because they're great music and I'd rather spend the little bit of spare cash I have on it rather than on many other things. But there has to be stuff for people to buy. Also: When I brought some friends down to see them, Bedouin definitely won some converts (though people were definitely unwilling to shell out 10 quid for a half-hour live CD-R by a band they were only just seeing for the first time. I think that might have been a bit steeply priced to sell except to the die-hard fans! Like me :) But get a full album out at a reasonable price and I think some people I know would buy it. I definitely know some will be back to see the next Bedouin tour! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun May 2 12:55:44 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 12:55:44 -0400 Subject: OFF: Fixing Happy In-Reply-To: <108423.3134653413@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Sun, 2 May 1999, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: => Ah, but there aren't enough Linux apps yet. I'd have to =>learn to program so that I could write the ones I needed. Give =>them a couple of years, and _then_ we'll have something :) Actually, you might be pleasantly surprised. Between KDE and its family of applications; StarOffice; The GIMP; Netscape; Pine; Adobe Acrobat; etc., there's more than enough to get by on. I have *zero* Microsoft products on my IBM PC clone, and I have not yet been stymied by a lack of any applications for anything I've wanted to do. How much is "enough?" =>Carl, who notes that there's Linux for Macs as well :) As well as NetBSD! But I did not intend to touch off an OS advocacy war, so I shall slink back to the NSF research grant proposal I'm supposed to be working on... Cheers, Paul. NP: Gov't Mule, 5/13/98 e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun May 2 13:16:44 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 18:16:44 +0100 Subject: OFF: Fixing Happy Message-ID: On s?n 2 maj 1999 12.55 -0400 "Paul Mather" wrote: > Actually, you might be pleasantly surprised. Between KDE and its > family of applications; StarOffice; The GIMP; Netscape; Pine; Adobe > Acrobat; etc., there's more than enough to get by on. I have *zero* > Microsoft products on my IBM PC clone, and I have not yet been stymied > by a lack of any applications for anything I've wanted to do. Well, for me text processing is most vital. I'd be interested to know where to find out more about word processors (and more advanced kinds of text-layout apps) for Linux. I work with words and often _strange_ words, so font manipulation apps would also be key. My image processing needs are light, so something along the lines of PhotoShop would do. But I expect I can search for info on this when I've time, and can stop wittering in the off-topic manner ... :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun May 2 16:44:06 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 16:44:06 -0400 Subject: OFF: Fixing Happy In-Reply-To: <372517.3134657804@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: Carl, => Well, for me text processing is most vital. I'd be interested =>to know where to find out more about word processors (and more =>advanced kinds of text-layout apps) for Linux. I work with =>words and often _strange_ words, so font manipulation apps =>would also be key. My image processing needs are light, so =>something along the lines of PhotoShop would do. For word processing, you could try either Corel WordPerfect 8, or StarOffice 5 Personal Edition, both for Linux. (StarOffice 5 is a kind of M$-Office clone, and can even import M$-Office files, with reasonable success.) For advanced document processing, I stick to LaTeX, personally, because all word processors I've used are junk for handling academic/technical documents. (You can even get a WYSIWYMG front-end for LaTeX called Lyx.) There is a KDE app called killustrator, which is supposed to be a sort of Adobe Illustrator for KDE (K Desktop Environment). A handy drawing program is Xfig, which I use for my LaTeX figure needs. For image processing there's The GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program), which is a "free PhotoShop" kind of program with similar features. Remember, all these are free for personal use (and most are just plain free), so, in a sense, you get what you pay for. So, it's a tad unfair to compare them to similar programs costing hundreds of dollars. But, I have to say, I've found the utility and reliability to be high. At least they don't seem to crash every half hour or so, unlike their Micro$oft brethren (or so a friend of mine complains). Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun May 2 16:49:09 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 16:49:09 -0400 Subject: OFF: Fixing Happy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 2 May 1999, Paul Mather wrote: =>For word processing, you could try either Corel WordPerfect 8, or =>StarOffice 5 Personal Edition, both for Linux. (StarOffice 5 is a =>kind of M$-Office clone, and can even import M$-Office files, with [...] Whoops! That was supposed to go just to Carl. Sorry! Worse things happen at sea, I suppose. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sun May 2 18:43:09 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 23:43:09 +0100 Subject: Off: Bedouin. In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Sun, 2 May 1999 13:39:28 +0100 Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > Henrik, you should contact Alan and see if you can get > copies of the Live in Europe Summer 1998 CD-R. It's short, but > has better sound that _Tres Hombres_. AFAIK, it's only otherwise > possible to buy this at gigs. > Is Bedouin still touring and if so are these still available and can someone get hold of a copy for me? Or can Alan produce a few more for circulation to the masses that inhabit the far north and didn't catch his tour? On the other hand I should make it to Buxton so if he could bring some copies with him to that gig that would be just fine! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun May 2 19:15:08 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 19:15:08 EDT Subject: OFF/HW: KREL Message-ID: In a message dated 99-05-02 03:15:47 EDT, bilby at sonique.net writes: << (Note that we also still have copies in stock of Krel's "Ad Astra", also $27) >> ---I saw this in a store recently. As many opinions as possible would be appreciated... Thanks, Chuck From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Mon May 3 05:15:08 1999 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 10:15:08 +0100 Subject: To all interested in Bedouin bootlegs Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Sprawl To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 02 May 1999 17:03 Subject: Re: To all interested in Bedouin bootlegs >I would buy anything that Alan made available. As I understood it, this >was only available at the European gigs, and that they were out of print, > and out of circulation. Do you have other information? > The current list runs something like Bedouin Live 98, SciFiDelic (Alan solo), Alien Heart (early Alan and Nigel Potter) Video of recent gigs to be available soon. They are available from all gigs and the PO Box below. >If such material is available from the band, then post the ordering >information. >No use in posting an address to which I can spend half the cost of the CD >-asking- if it is available. The cost of a stamp for a postcard to Alan is hardly half the price of a CD, if it is then I'll move there!. If you write to him you'll be added to the mailing list and informed of the latest state of things, and be able to give your comments directly. I'll post more details on prices, postage etc.soon. > >And the only person who can lay down the law about what is appropriate to >post >to this list is Ben Cohen. Fair enough, so: It is innappropriate to advertise bootlegs anywhere that Alan, EBS, Rock Music, Copyright Control, etc. might see. >It took me over a year to track down a copy of the official release of the >Bedouin >album. > It took me a few months, too. Bedouin PO Box 38 Honiton Devon EX14 9YW From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon May 3 06:29:22 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 06:29:22 -0400 Subject: BOC: 4/30 Warwick RI Setlist Message-ID: Yes, Chuck Burgi was indeed at "The Station" in Warwick RI. Got his autograph too on my Cult Classics tape cover (woo hoo!) Setlist: Stairway to the Stars Cities on Flame E.T.I. Harvest Moon Bucks Boogie (6:05) O.D.'d on Life This Ain't the Summer of Love Flaming Telepaths See You in Black Astronomy In Thee Take Me Away Burnin'g for You Godzilla Reaper ------------- Red and the Black Chuck did a rather nice drum solo during Take Me Away. I thought that it was a good spot to put one rather than having both a drum solo and a bass solo in 'zilla. From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Mon May 3 10:54:40 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 07:54:40 -0700 Subject: BOC; Cozy Powell Tribute Concert Sunday Message-ID: Erm.. You would have to actually execute the Happy99 file to be infected, no? So as long as you haven't executed the file, you should be fine.. Play safe kiddies.. Don't execute email file attachements unless you're absolutely sure exactly what it is.. This is the latest craze in virii... JB > -----Original Message----- > From: cosmos [mailto:cosmos at CASEMA.NET] > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 1999 7:29 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: BOC; Cozy Powell Tribute Concert Sunday > > > >At 06:38 AM 5/1/99 Shawn Quinn Posted:happy99.exe > > > >Hey Shawn what was that happy99.exe you posted to the list? > >i did not even get a chance to see what it was before my > antivirus program > >detected it as a virus and automatically deleted it.... > > > >Randy > > and good old mcafee detected it on my pc too. > so be careful and check your files if you still don't know > if you are infected with happy99. > > anybody else DON'T open the attachtment. > > andre > From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Mon May 3 11:09:03 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:09:03 -0700 Subject: RED ALERT VIRUS WARNING RED ALERT VIRUS WARNING Message-ID: Nah, don't quit the list.. I, for one, would miss you. You are learning about nettiquet the hard way but you ARE learning, right? So... Post controversial opinions and flames.. Post your opinions.. don't let the whiners put you off.. You have to be pretty thick skinned to enjoy this aspect of the net.. Lists and newsgroups I mean.. Just don't send attachments to the list and avoid WAY off topic stuff.. I believe most people will tolerate some of it if it just wasn't quite so often... I have a bad habit of trailing my sentences with ...'s, don't I? Peace... JB > -----Original Message----- > From: DASLUD at AOL.COM [mailto:DASLUD at AOL.COM] > Sent: Saturday, May 01, 1999 9:25 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: RED ALERT VIRUS WARNING RED ALERT VIRUS WARNING > > > In a message dated 5/1/99 11:23:47 AM, paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU writes: > > << > The difference is that it is highly unlikely that Shawn *knowingly* > posted Happy99.exe to the list. What is likely is that Happy99.exe > posted *itself* to the list (that's how it propagates). > > Now if Happy99.exe starts posting enormous AVIs about trains to the > list, *then* it's time to start worrying and COMPLAINING LOUDLY ABOUT > IT IN ALL CAPITALS (WITH EXCESS PUNCTUATION!!!!!!!!). > > ;-) > >> > > > if you are saying that the virus could have "sent itself" > through shawn on > its own, w/o him having anything to do w/it, > > well, in light of possible/likely responses i'll get from this and the > several other things i sent in regarding the virus, how bout > if i quit. > > sorry y'all > From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Mon May 3 11:16:11 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:16:11 -0700 Subject: BOC; Cozy Powell Tribute Concert Sunday Message-ID: ..and we don't get those nifty see-through cases in pastel colors and an OS that forces you to DO THINGS THEIR WAY... Of course, if you don't actually want to be bothered with actually learning anything about computers, Mac's are definately the correct choice.. Hmm... (searching for a topic...) I bet EB uses a Mac... hehe JB > -----Original Message----- > From: Carl Edlund Anderson [mailto:cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK] > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 1999 5:32 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: BOC; Cozy Powell Tribute Concert Sunday > > > On l?r 1 maj 1999 16.29 +0200 cosmos wrote: > > anybody else DON'T open the attachtment. > > I'm not worried--I have a Mac and have been laughing my way > through the recent spate of viruses in Windoze world. Not only > a lame OS but you have to suffer e-terrorism ;) > > singing in the rain, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic > St. John's College, University of Cambridge > mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk > http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ > From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Mon May 3 11:22:12 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 08:22:12 -0700 Subject: OFF: Fixing Happy Message-ID: Sorry for adding to the OS debate but.. Linux is definately the way to go.. The only thing that keeps me in windows is a severe and incurable addiction to high-end computer games.. ..and I'm forced to use Microsloth's bloatwear here at work.. I understand that.. (damn.. I forget the company name now..) is coming out with a GUI version of Linux late this year that is supposed to run anything Winblows can... Hmmm.. Bye bye Bill! JB > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Mather [mailto:paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU] > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 1999 9:56 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: OFF: Fixing Happy > > > On Sun, 2 May 1999, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > => Ah, but there aren't enough Linux apps yet. I'd have to > =>learn to program so that I could write the ones I needed. Give > =>them a couple of years, and _then_ we'll have something :) > > Actually, you might be pleasantly surprised. Between KDE and its > family of applications; StarOffice; The GIMP; Netscape; Pine; Adobe > Acrobat; etc., there's more than enough to get by on. I have *zero* > Microsoft products on my IBM PC clone, and I have not yet been stymied > by a lack of any applications for anything I've wanted to do. > > How much is "enough?" > > =>Carl, who notes that there's Linux for Macs as well :) > > As well as NetBSD! > > But I did not intend to touch off an OS advocacy war, so I shall slink > back to the NSF research grant proposal I'm supposed to be working > on... > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > NP: Gov't Mule, 5/13/98 > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." > --- James Marshall Hendrix > From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Mon May 3 13:01:03 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 18:01:03 +0100 Subject: OFF: Dr Hasbeen In-Reply-To: <199905010901.FAA24573@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From MCINTYRE at PA.MSU.EDU Mon May 3 14:03:45 1999 From: MCINTYRE at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 14:03:45 -0400 Subject: Peter Hammill on Hawkwind Message-ID: forwarded without permission from the Peter Hammill list VDGG is Van der Graaf Generator, Hammill was their lead singer, guitarist, and principal songwriter ************************************************************************ Whilst we're on the subject of Hawkwind, perhaps people might be interested in what Peter Hammill himself said about Hawkwind's (at one time) vocalist/lyric-writer Robert Calvert according to : http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/calon.htm PH : "He was a good man. And like a lot of good men he was troubled. BUT he made a lot of good work out of his troubles..." "He told me once that it was actually 'Killers", one of my earliest songs, that brought him into music." "The thing I remember, the images that are most vivid are the goggles and the megaphone - and the flying scarf. The Hawkwind of the mid-seventies shows were very theatrical, but they weren't slick. And I don't think they were after putting up a slick show - or after perfection. To me it was more a theatre in an Agit-Prop way. VDGG played with Hawkwind numerous times throughout the 70s - from the early days on, when Calvert wasn't a member - or only a loose one up until the mid/late 70's when he became the band's lead-singer & frontman." "Van der Graaf and Hawkwind were obviously very different bands in style - where Hawkwind had this one riff that went on and on and on - eventually evolving into a kind of soundscape, VDGG had one riff, and another and another - this complex musical structure (and we didn't had a "Stacia" either....) . " "But in terms of the noise, the rawness and energy level during their live performances they weren't that far away. The anarchic element and the sonic quality and rawness of punk was there, both in the performances and sounds of HW and VDGG." So, according to the author, PH actually said that VDGG played WITH Hawkwind, although the interviewer does mention that he wrote the quotations from memory, so he might be making that part of it up. For me it was interesting to take note of the number and variety of people paying tribute to Robert Calvert, that former member of the so-called "crummy space prog-rock group". I personally think that some of their music is just as good as Hammill's, and although Calvert's lyrics covered different ground, some of them are just as good as his. I know this could be treading on dangerous ground, but why not open this up for debate : Don't SOME of you out there think SOME of Hammill's lyrics are just too pretentious? I mean, I would like to think PH7 could be an forum for intelligent debate, and not simply club for avid-Hammillspotters... ****************************************************************** Graham Stanley, International House, Barcelona http://lavender.fortunecity.com/banzai/80/ ICQ #25844839 web pager : http://wwp.mirabilis.com/25844839 email express : 25844839 at pager.mirabilis.com ****************************************************************** From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Mon May 3 21:44:17 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 21:44:17 -0400 Subject: OFF: Test Message-ID: I seem to have NO boc-lmail for the enitre day. that would be a first. Jason From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Sun May 2 17:41:07 1999 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 07:41:07 +1000 Subject: OFF: Linux (was - Fixing Happy) Message-ID: Snipped Linux discussion... So I take it there would be interest in the Robert Calvert, Hawkwind and Moorcock themes I was working on for Enlightenment and WindowMaker. Never finished them because of my assumption that it wouldn't interest too many people. Looks like I will get off my rear-end and make them soon... - Max From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 4 05:33:01 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:33:01 +0100 Subject: OFF: Test In-Reply-To: Bolts of Ungodly Vision's message of Mon, 3 May 1999 21:44:17 -0400 Message-ID: Bolts of Ungodly Vision writes: > I seem to have NO boc-lmail for the enitre day. that would be a first. > Jason There's been a big tornado storm in Oklahoma which has probably been disrupting communications and net traffic from the States. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue May 4 06:06:28 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 11:06:28 +0100 Subject: OFF: yer bog standard OS advocacy Message-ID: On m?n 3 maj 1999 08.16 -0700 "Joseph Brooks" wrote: > ..and we don't get those nifty see-through cases in pastel colors and an OS > that forces you to DO THINGS THEIR WAY... Of course, if you don't actually > want to be bothered with actually learning anything about computers, Mac's > are definately the correct choice.. Silly man :) and MacOS is nothing to Windows for Having It Their Way. Apple has done innumerable silly things, a number of them in the basic set-up of their OS, but they are pretty easy to get around even for someone who hasn't bothered to learn anything about computers ;) and you don't even notice sidestepping them if you have ... I remain unmoved! :) I was a staunch pro-DOS/anti-Mac type back before Windows lumbered awkwardly onto the scene. I've done a lot of user and network support in mixed Mac/PC environments and .. well, *that* made up my mind for me. I just can't face Windows in its various semi-variations after those experiences. The horror ... the horror ... But like everyone else, I expect to stick out my thumb for the Linux bandwagon, to see if it's going my way :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue May 4 08:13:13 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 08:13:13 -0400 Subject: OFF: Test In-Reply-To: <199905040933.KAA22547@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 4 May 1999, Jill wrote: =>There's been a big tornado storm in Oklahoma which has probably been =>disrupting communications and net traffic from the States. I don't see why. Now if it were in Northern Virginia, I might be inclined to agree... Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Tue May 4 08:14:50 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 22:14:50 +1000 Subject: To all interested in Bedouin bootlegs Message-ID: On 2 May 99, at 11:58, Sprawl wrote: > It took me over a year to track down a copy of the official release of the > Bedouin album. Speaking of which, I just found that Black Widow have run out, and I need to order some copies from somewhere. Any suggestions? (I've already mailed Andy G) S. -- PO Box 378 Paul Ward Ashburton http://sonique.net VIC 3147 (time permitting) Mob:0418 524744 sonique at sonique.net From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 4 08:20:35 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:20:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: Pink Fairies, 'Pleasure Island' In-Reply-To: Jonathan Jarrett's message of Fri, 30 Apr 1999 18:48:35 +0100 Message-ID: Jonathan Jarrett writes: > Ah yes - I have one by that line-up from 1997 called 'No Picture' > which is really really bad. There is one half-good track on it and another > that nearly makes it that far and the rest is pants. I've nearly sold it, > but it's a Hawkwind-connected album. This causes me Konscience problems. > When was 'Pleasure Island' from again, or does the sleeve not say? Yours, Forgot to check this but I'm fairly sure it came out last year which makes it 1998. It's only fair to say that there are (I think) 4 tracks on it of which the first three are, to say politely, completely uninspiring tracks and had these comprised the whole album I would have deemed it not worth a second listen and consigned it to my instant resale pile. However it's the last track that sells this album for me - a long 20 minute (at least) instrumental jam that starts quiet and builds up into an extraordinary layering of guitar riffs and drumbeat that I find utterly hypnotic. The guitar work is perfectly timed with exactly the right feel and flow to draw you in and the drumbeat is mixed far enough into the background to give the rhythm without overwhelming the rest of the sound. It's great last-thing-at-night-before-finally-deciding-to-go-to-bed music. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Tue May 4 08:27:48 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 08:27:48 -0400 Subject: Coupla topics Message-ID: > Chuck did a rather nice drum solo during Take Me Away. I thought that > it > was a good spot to put one rather than having both a drum solo and a > bass > solo in 'zilla. WHAT!?!?! NO double solo in Godzilla?!?! Have they all gone MAD?!?!?! It's about f***ing time!!! :-) > Nah, don't quit the list.. I, for one, would miss you. Me too. Sh*t happens, but BOC-L is forever -- kinda like herpes... > Hmm... (searching for a topic...) I bet EB uses a Mac... hehe Actually, he's a PC guy. On the other hand, Buck Dharma uses Macs... > > I'm not worried--I have a Mac and have been laughing my way > > through the recent spate of viruses in Windoze world. Not only > > a lame OS but you have to suffer e-terrorism ;) Carl, it is sometimes kinda SCARY how much you and I think alike... John PS: Forgot to mention on this forum that last week I was in Los Angeles on business, and got to visit the legendary Museum of Cult, and it's equally legendary curator Bolle Gregmar. We shared some beers, laughs, and some incredibly cool rare BOC tunes. Soft White Underbelly, demos, and lots of cool stuff! PPS: 15 days 'til "The Phantom Menace" - but more importantly, only 8 days 'til tickets are available... -- John A. Swartz - The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA - jswartz at mitre.org "Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to Anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to SUFFERING." -- Yoda (Star Wars: Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace) From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 4 08:29:49 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:29:49 +0100 Subject: OFF: Test In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Tue, 4 May 1999 08:13:13 -0400 Message-ID: Paul Mather writes: > On Tue, 4 May 1999, Jill wrote: > > =>There's been a big tornado storm in Oklahoma which has probably been > =>disrupting communications and net traffic from the States. > > I don't see why. Now if it were in Northern Virginia, I might be > inclined to agree... > > Cheers, nope - I don't know why either but it seems to be the case that whenever there are very severe weather conditions in the central/ southern (not too sure of my geography here) States it disrupts the net traffic for a day or so. But it could just be coincidence I guess. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Tue May 4 08:41:13 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 13:41:13 +0100 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 04 May 1999 08:27:48 EDT." <372EE709.57F39DCA@mitre.org> Message-ID: > PPS: 15 days 'til "The Phantom Menace" - but more importantly, only 8 > days 'til tickets are available... > > -- > John A. Swartz - The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA - jswartz at mitre.org > > "Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to Anger. Anger leads > to Hate. > Hate leads to SUFFERING." -- Yoda (Star Wars: Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace) Congrats John, I think you're the first BOC-L resident to enter Andy G's star wars kill file :-) Tim ObGig: Calexico @ the embassy rooms 28/4/99 ObCD: Download, _The Eyes of Stanley Pain_ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue May 4 09:23:14 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:23:14 +0100 Subject: Coupla topics Message-ID: On tis 4 maj 1999 08.27 -0400 "John A. Swartz" wrote: > Carl, it is sometimes kinda SCARY how much you and I think alike... Beer, Bass, BOC! See ya Back in Boston soon! :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue May 4 10:56:57 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 15:56:57 +0100 Subject: OFF: Scylding on MP3! Message-ID: I am pleased to announce that MP3s of tracks from the "Scylding" project, which I recorded in summer '95 right before coming to England, are now available. I recorded three lo-fi songs on ADATs; they were sent (unmixed) to my sister who added swooshy noises and then dumped them (still unmixed) to cassette. The results of this astoundingly lo-fi production process are now available as MP3s stored on a friend's machine in Britain. It's not always up, but is usually available during daytime and evening GMT. Reach them through: http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/scylding.html http://rgi20.joh.cam.ac.uk/carl/scylding.html Listen and weep at the realization that they'll let *anyone* rock and roll these days :) There are three main tracks, plus an "alternative unmix" of one track, and a Special Bonus Track of Larry Boyd's Das Ludicroix (on which I played guitar): chaotic improv space-jamming live from Middleboro, MA, 25 March 1995! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue May 4 11:33:55 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 11:33:55 -0400 Subject: OFF: Amorphis Message-ID: Hi Folks... Well, things are a little quiet on the music front here on boc-l, so I thought I'd bring up this band I discovered recently. I guess they started out as a really doomy metal band, but have since backed off from that into 'my territory.' They're not really of the stoner variety, though they have some of the same tendencies (ie., tinges of psychedelia). But if I had to characterize the sound of their latest album, "Tuonela," I would say equal parts of the following... Uli Roth-era Scorpions (circa Taken by Force) Kingston Wall Metallica's black album The KW comparison is unmistakable on several tracks (esp. Track 8), and seeing as they're from Helsinki, Finland, it's not so hard to figure why. The album's on Relapse and seems to have fairly good distribution over here in the states. Are they well-known to folks here or in general? I'd never heard of them until last month. Keith H. (FAA) ObCD: On Trial - Head Entrance From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue May 4 13:19:03 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 18:19:03 +0100 Subject: OFF: Amorphis Message-ID: On tis 4 maj 1999 11.33 -0400 "Keith Henderson" wrote: > I guess they started out as a really doomy metal band, but have since backed > off from that into 'my territory.' > Are they well-known to folks here or in general? I'd never > heard of them until last month. More part of the Scandinavian death-metal scene. Their earliest stuff is _far_ too much for me to handle. Their _Tales from the Thousand Lakes_ album is still too "cookie monster oriented" IMO, but the superb instrumentation and subject matter (drawn from the Kalevala) just manage to redeem it for me. Their album _Elegy_ still has some of the death-metal vocals, but is otherwise *completely* excellent. This was the Amorphis stuff I first heard, and it was someone on this list who recommended it to me, I think! From that album is the CDS "My Kantele" which includes a Kingston Wall cover ("And I Hear You Call") and a Hawkwind cover ("Levitation")!!! I have just ordered _Tuonela_ from Henrik :) (along with the new Garmarna "Euchari" single). Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue May 4 13:35:26 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:35:26 -0700 Subject: To all interested in Bedouin bootlegs Message-ID: On Mon, 3 May 1999 10:15:08 +0100, Neil Ward wrote: >-----Original Message----- >From: Sprawl >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Date: 02 May 1999 17:03 >Subject: Re: To all interested in Bedouin bootlegs > >>And the only person who can lay down the law about what is appropriate to >>post >>to this list is Ben Cohen. > >Fair enough, so: >It is innappropriate to advertise bootlegs anywhere that Alan, EBS, Rock >Music, Copyright Control, etc. might see. ... if it's inappropriate to advertise bootlegs that we wouldn't want "Copyright Control" to know about, does that mean that we're not allowed to quote lyrics that might be in violation of copyrights held by songwriters like "trad" and "anon" (two of my favorites - I'm also a big fan of the former's cousin, "trad arr")? -Doug ceres at sirius.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue May 4 14:17:50 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:17:50 EDT Subject: OFF: Scylding on MP3! (what? you still here?) Message-ID: golly, that is sooooo cool. "<>" From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue May 4 14:34:53 1999 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:34:53 -0400 Subject: OFF: Test In-Reply-To: <199905041229.NAA01940@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> from "J Strobridge" at May 4, 99 01:29:49 pm Message-ID: J Strobridge wrote: > I don't know why either but it seems to be the case that > whenever there are very severe weather conditions in the central/ > southern (not too sure of my geography here) States Just call it "South Central" :-) > it disrupts > the net traffic for a day or so. But it could just be coincidence > I guess. Here in Toronto, too; it's not (just?) the trans-Atlantic links that are suffering. But then, the center of the netiverse is California, after all; having them cut off's all it takes, I guess... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Perl is a challenge left for the syntactic masochist. - http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/guile.html From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue May 4 14:44:20 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:44:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: Scylding on MP3! (what? you still here?) Message-ID: Damn, I should have mentioned that, with the exception of my sister, every performer on the Scylding recordings has been a subscriber to BOC-L at some point! (Me, Tania, Larry, and David Kuznick!). Nor would it have been possible (for good or for ill ;) without boc-l member Scott Heller :) And even Chris Bruce was subscribed briefly some years back, I believe. So, clearly, in the end, as always Steve Swann is to blame :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From kg at THING.DE Tue May 4 15:31:34 1999 From: kg at THING.DE (stalker) Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 21:31:34 +0200 Subject: Peter Hammill on Hawkwind Message-ID: reply to: >>So, according to the author, PH actually said that VDGG played WITH Hawkwind, although the interviewer does mention that he wrote the quotations from memory, so he might be making that part of it up. as I did the interview I can say: no, I didn't make up anything here. went home after the gig/interview and hacked it straight into the computer. Would this be breaking news that HW and VDGG did some gigs together? I always thought these are well-known 'facts' - or am I wrong here? anyway - from various interviews one thing's for sure: Hammill and Calvert had a lot of respect for each others work. and surely, as vocalists and writers / lyricists they are outstanding figures. best, knut gerwers From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed May 5 06:10:44 1999 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Rich Lockwood) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 11:10:44 +0100 Subject: OFF: Violent Femmes Message-ID: If anyone's interested, the Violent Femmes are playing the Forum, London this evening (5 May). Sorry for the short notice. Cheers, Rich. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed May 5 06:37:11 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 11:37:11 +0100 Subject: Peter Hammill on Hawkwind In-Reply-To: stalker's message of Tue, 4 May 1999 21:31:34 +0200 Message-ID: stalker writes: > Would this be breaking news that HW and VDGG did some gigs together? > I always thought these are well-known 'facts' - or am I wrong here? Well I have an LP which has Hawkwind on one side and Van Der Graaf on the other. FoFP From a.hughes at NEWI.AC.UK Wed May 5 07:29:40 1999 From: a.hughes at NEWI.AC.UK (Alun Hughes) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 12:29:40 +0100 Subject: OFF: Amorphis Message-ID: Well, I just got this the other day. Bought it on the strength of _My Kantele_ - the one with the "Levitation" cover. They have used Paradise Lost's producer who has done a pretty good job of making them sound just like Paradise Lost. In fact, PL are a pretty good comparison in that they too moved from cookie-monster to airbrushed-vocals-and-swirly-keyboards in much the same way. _Tuonela_ is well-produced and "melodic" but I don't suppose I'll be buying any more of their records for much the same reason that I don't buy Bon Jovi albums. Bring back the cookie monster, that's what I say. Alun >But if I had to characterize the sound of their latest album, >"Tuonela," I would say equal parts of the following... > >Uli Roth-era Scorpions (circa Taken by Force) >Kingston Wall >Metallica's black album > >The KW comparison is unmistakable on several tracks (esp. Track 8), and >seeing as they're from Helsinki, Finland, it's not so hard to figure why. >The album's on Relapse and seems to have fairly good distribution over here >in the states. Are they well-known to folks here or in general? I'd never >heard of them until last month. From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed May 5 08:06:06 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 13:06:06 +0100 Subject: OFF: Amorphis Message-ID: I've only heard the "Divinity" track from the new album, and while it seems to have written with the aim of garnering popularity, I still thought it was really cool. Hell, I thought "Enter Sandman" was really cool, and still maintain it is a excellent composition. Actually, my sense is that a comparison between Metallica's black album and _Tuonela_ probably works on several levels .... ;) Cheers, Carl ObCD: Kingston Wall, _I_ -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI Wed May 5 08:30:52 1999 From: sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI (Santeri Laakso) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:30:52 +0300 Subject: OFF: Amorphis In-Reply-To: <179230.3134898366@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hello everyone! This is Santtu from Psychedelic Space rock band Dark Sun. I just thought to add, that Divinity is also released as a CD single (at least in Finland) with a great non-CD track Northern Lights. It's the closest thing to Stoner rock that Amorphis has ever released. Just in case someone is interested... Santtu On Wed, 5 May 1999, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > I've only heard the "Divinity" track from the new album, > and while it seems to have written with the aim of garnering > popularity, I still thought it was really cool. Hell, I thought > "Enter Sandman" was really cool, and still maintain it is > a excellent composition. Actually, my sense is that a comparison > between Metallica's black album and _Tuonela_ probably works > on several levels .... ;) > > Cheers, > Carl > > ObCD: Kingston Wall, _I_ > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic > St. John's College, University of Cambridge > mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk > http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ > From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed May 5 09:08:56 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 14:08:56 +0100 Subject: OFF: Amorphis Message-ID: On ons 5 maj 1999 15.30 +0300 "Santeri Laakso" wrote: > This is Santtu from Psychedelic Space rock band Dark Sun. Hei Santtu, good to see you here! I have some fairly decent pictures of Dark Sun from the J?nk?ping festival last summer to send to you (and I still owe Juba his pictures, and Scott his tapes, and ... ah! this thesis is trouble :} ) When will your new album be available? :) > I just thought to add, that Divinity is also released as a CD single (at > least in Finland) with a great non-CD track Northern Lights. It's the > closest thing to Stoner rock that Amorphis has ever released. Just in case > someone is interested... Absolutely! From where can it be ordered? (Can you get this Henrik?) Cheers, Carl for Jim Lascko, if he's listening: any chance of getting any of the Scandinavian spacerock bands to the US SpaceDaze fest? -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed May 5 08:57:09 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 08:57:09 -0400 Subject: OFF/HW: KREL Message-ID: Chuck says... ><< (Note that we also still have copies in stock of Krel's "Ad Astra", also >$27) >> > >---I saw this in a store recently. As many opinions as possible would be >appreciated... Thanks, Chuck Well, here's one. It's quite good. And (not surprisingly) rather similar to Hawkwind. If I had to pick which HW specifically, I'd say it lies somewhere between 'Choose your Masques' and 'Electric Tepee.' Several songs that sound kinda similar to 'I am the Eye that looks within' and/or 'Choose your masks.' But if that $27 price is US$, I'd look for a cheaper price!! Andy G. would sell it to ya cheaper than that!! Keith H. (FAA) ObCD: The Exploding Meet - Circus of Disharmony From micci at SCI.FI Wed May 5 11:57:44 1999 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 18:57:44 +0300 Subject: OFF: Pink Fairies, 'Pleasure Island' Message-ID: Hi! Consider this album, is there vinyl too or is it only CD? and where I can get this (vinyl)? Help, please. >Jonathan Jarrett writes: > >> Ah yes - I have one by that line-up from 1997 called 'No Picture' >> which is really really bad. There is one half-good track on it and another >> that nearly makes it that far and the rest is pants. I've nearly sold it, >> but it's a Hawkwind-connected album. This causes me Konscience problems. >> When was 'Pleasure Island' from again, or does the sleeve not say? Yours, > > >Forgot to check this but I'm fairly sure it came out last year which >makes it 1998. It's only fair to say that there are (I think) 4 >tracks on it of which the first three are, to say politely, completely >uninspiring tracks and had these comprised the whole album I would >have deemed it not worth a second listen and consigned it to my instant >resale pile. > >However it's the last track that sells this album for me - a long >20 minute (at least) instrumental jam that starts quiet and builds up >into an extraordinary layering of guitar riffs and drumbeat that I find >utterly hypnotic. The guitar work is perfectly timed with exactly the >right feel and flow to draw you in and the drumbeat is mixed far enough >into the background to give the rhythm without overwhelming the rest of >the sound. > >It's great last-thing-at-night-before-finally-deciding-to-go-to-bed >music. > >jill > >=========================================================================== >J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk > ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Wed May 5 11:13:36 1999 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 17:13:36 +0200 Subject: SV: Re: OFF/HW: KREL Message-ID: Hi there Krel-fans! Peace of Mind Records can sell the Krel CD " Ad Astra" for $ 13 (excl. p&p) and that is fairly good I think. You can reach on peaceofmind at telia.com Otherwise I agree with Keith that it?s a rather good CD. But there is more to come - Dr Hasbeen, check them out on Http://hem.passagen.se/hawkwind/ and click on the Dr Hasbeen link. Cheers Henrik >Chuck says... > >><< (Note that we also still have copies in stock of Krel's "Ad Astra", also >>$27) >> >> >>---I saw this in a store recently. As many opinions as possible would be >>appreciated... Thanks, Chuck > >Well, here's one. > >It's quite good. And (not surprisingly) rather similar to Hawkwind. If I >had to pick which HW specifically, I'd say it lies somewhere between 'Choose >your Masques' and 'Electric Tepee.' Several songs that sound kinda similar >to 'I am the Eye that looks within' and/or 'Choose your masks.' > >But if that $27 price is US$, I'd look for a cheaper price!! >Andy G. would sell it to ya cheaper than that!! > >Keith H. (FAA) > >ObCD: The Exploding Meet - Circus of Disharmony > From corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET Wed May 5 18:01:26 1999 From: corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 18:01:26 -0400 Subject: Peter Hammill on Hawkwind Message-ID: Hammil pretentious?? Is the London Bridge in Arizona? Mike John McIntyre wrote: > forwarded without permission from the Peter Hammill list > VDGG is Van der Graaf Generator, Hammill was their lead singer, guitarist, > and principal songwriter > ************************************************************************ > > Whilst we're on the subject of Hawkwind, perhaps people might be interested > in what Peter Hammill himself said about Hawkwind's (at one time) > vocalist/lyric-writer Robert Calvert according to : > http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/calon.htm > > PH : "He was a good man. And like a lot of good men he was troubled. BUT he > made a lot of good work out of his troubles..." > > "He told me once that it was actually 'Killers", one of my earliest > songs, that brought him into music." > > "The thing I remember, the images that are most vivid are the goggles > and the megaphone - and the flying scarf. The Hawkwind of the > mid-seventies shows were very theatrical, but they weren't slick. And > I don't think they were after putting up a slick show - or after > perfection. To me it was more a theatre in an Agit-Prop way. VDGG > played with Hawkwind numerous times throughout the 70s - from the > early days on, when Calvert wasn't a member - or only a loose one up > until the mid/late 70's when he became the band's lead-singer & > frontman." > > "Van der Graaf and Hawkwind were obviously very different bands in > style - where Hawkwind had this one riff that went on and on and on - > eventually evolving into a kind of soundscape, VDGG had one riff, and > another and another - this complex musical structure (and we didn't > had a "Stacia" either....) . " > > "But in terms of the noise, the rawness and energy level during their > live performances they weren't that far away. The anarchic element and > the sonic quality and rawness of punk was there, both in the > performances and sounds of HW and VDGG." > > So, according to the author, PH actually said that VDGG played WITH > Hawkwind, although the interviewer does mention that he wrote the quotations > from memory, so he might be making that part of it up. > > For me it was interesting to take note of the number and variety of people > paying tribute to Robert Calvert, that former member of the so-called > "crummy space prog-rock group". I personally think that some of their music > is just as good as Hammill's, and although Calvert's lyrics covered > different ground, some of them are just as good as his. I know this could be > treading on dangerous ground, but why not open this up for debate : Don't > SOME of you out there think SOME of Hammill's lyrics are just too > pretentious? I mean, I would like to think PH7 could be an forum for > intelligent debate, and not simply club for avid-Hammillspotters... > > ****************************************************************** > Graham Stanley, International House, Barcelona > > http://lavender.fortunecity.com/banzai/80/ > > ICQ #25844839 web pager : http://wwp.mirabilis.com/25844839 > email express : 25844839 at pager.mirabilis.com > > ****************************************************************** From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed May 5 21:58:05 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:58:05 -0400 Subject: OFF: Final Ozrics word Message-ID: We the Ozric Tentacles are deeply upset that we are unable to make the upcoming shows in the USA. This situation has arisen for several reasons that are absolutely out of our hands at the moment but we are working extremely hard to try and reschsdule all of the shows for late summer along with additional shows. We are really sorry for all of you guys that have gone out and purchased tickets to see us in your relevant areas and we are doing everything we can along with our agent in the USA to make sure all the existing destinations will stand on the rescheduled tour list. There should be some news on the new dates in the next week or two so please try and keep the faith for us just for a few more weeks. Again we cannot tell you how we feel about this unfortunate situation but we really hope that you guys can hang in there for us and you have our word that we will be out with you as soon as it is phyically possible for us to do so. Please keep it locked with Mikes incredible site as this will be the first place to get all the correct information and a true representation of how we the Ozric Tentacles feel. It's our input and connecting point to you guys. Massive love and respect to all who continue to support us. Peace. The Ozric Tentacles. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed May 5 23:27:18 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 23:27:18 -0400 Subject: OFF: Final Ozrics word In-Reply-To: <199905060309.XAA20801@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 May 1999, Keith Henderson wrote: => We are really sorry for all of you guys that have gone out and purchased => tickets to see us in your relevant areas and we are doing everything we can => along with our agent in the USA to make sure all the existing destinations => will stand on the rescheduled tour list. There should be some news on the Actually, this is a stroke of luck for me. The date of the only show "near" to me (Ziggy's, Winston-Salem, NC) was smack bang in the middle of a conference/workshop I'm involved with, and so it was likely I'd have to miss the Ozrics. At least now, if they reschedule it for later this summer, I have a great chance of being able to catch the show. :-) => do so. Please keep it locked with Mikes incredible site as this will be the => first place to get all the correct information and a true representation of => how we the Ozric Tentacles feel. It's our input and connecting point to you Does anyone know the URL for "Mikes incredible site?" Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From tclark at PETRONET.NET Thu May 6 11:46:26 1999 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 10:46:26 -0500 Subject: OFF: Final Ozrics word Message-ID: Bummer....was looking forward to the soundscapes and seeing the guy tumbling down the aisle to your music with excitement...(happened a few years ago in LA...:-)))... Keith Henderson wrote: > We the Ozric Tentacles are deeply upset that we are unable to make the > upcoming shows in the USA. This situation has arisen for several reasons > that are absolutely out of our hands at the moment but we are working > extremely hard to try and reschsdule all of the shows for late summer along > with additional shows. > > We are really sorry for all of you guys that have gone out and purchased > tickets to see us in your relevant areas and we are doing everything we can > along with our agent in the USA to make sure all the existing destinations > will stand on the rescheduled tour list. There should be some news on the > new dates in the next week or two so please try and keep the faith for us > just for a few more weeks. > > Again we cannot tell you how we feel about this unfortunate situation but we > really hope that you guys can hang in there for us and you have our word > that we will be out with you as soon as it is phyically possible for us to > do so. Please keep it locked with Mikes incredible site as this will be the > first place to get all the correct information and a true representation of > how we the Ozric Tentacles feel. It's our input and connecting point to you > guys. > > Massive love and respect to all who continue to support us. > Peace. The Ozric Tentacles. From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu May 6 04:12:36 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 04:12:36 EDT Subject: OFF/HW: KREL Message-ID: In a message dated 99-05-05 10:08:37 EDT, you write: << Well, here's one. It's quite good. And (not surprisingly) rather similar to Hawkwind. If I had to pick which HW specifically, I'd say it lies somewhere between 'Choose your Masques' and 'Electric Tepee.' Several songs that sound kinda similar to 'I am the Eye that looks within' and/or 'Choose your masks.' ---Thanks, Keith. But if that $27 price is US$, I'd look for a cheaper price!! Andy G. would sell it to ya cheaper than that!! ---Actually, I've seen it at a local shop for $15.99. I just might take a chance and give it a try. Speaking of giving things a try, I've been listening to Brainstorm, a CD which Sonique convinced me to buy. Judging by the name, liners, etc, I was pretty excited, but not only is it not at all like HW, it's not space-rock or anything even related. Not that there's anything wrong w/that, but it's just not the sort of thing I'm into now. Disappointing. Chuck Keith H. (FAA) ObCD: The Exploding Meet - Circus of Disharmony >> PS: What's this? From m.r.varley at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu May 6 13:08:03 1999 From: m.r.varley at UCLAN.AC.UK (Martin Varley) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:08:03 GMT+0 Subject: Bedouin NOT at Preston!! (&T&M) Message-ID: Hello list If anyone is planning to go to see Bedouin this Saturday (8 May) as advertised on the Hawkwind website, CHECK first!! I have just phoned the Apelphi (which is just over the road from where I work) and they tell me that Jane Weaver is playing on 8 May - they have no date for Bedouin. If anyone knows better than this then please let me know but the Adelphi are unaware of Bedouin playing! On another topic, has anyone got the new release of Tyranny & Mutation yet? Is the 1st album (BOC) on the CD also remastered?? Cheers Martin From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Thu May 6 08:27:29 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 22:27:29 +1000 Subject: OFF/HW: KREL Message-ID: On 6 May 99, at 4:12, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > Speaking of giving things a try, I've been > listening to Brainstorm, a CD which Sonique convinced me to buy. Judging > by the name, liners, etc, I was pretty excited, but not only is it not at > all like HW, it's not space-rock or anything even related. Not that > there's anything wrong w/that, but it's just not the sort of thing I'm > into now. Disappointing. Sorry to hear that Chuck. I did say at the time that despite the name they weren't like HW, but I guess that got lost somewhere in my enthusiasm for it ... S. -- PO Box 378 Paul Ward Ashburton http://sonique.net VIC 3147 (time permitting) Mob:0418 524744 sonique at sonique.net From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu May 6 08:46:55 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:46:55 +0100 Subject: BOC: RE: Bedouin NOT at Preston!! (&T&M) In-Reply-To: <3483052774@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Message-ID: > On another topic, has anyone got the new release of Tyranny & > Mutation yet? I had a look on CDNow the other day, and they list the release date as May 18th. > > Is the 1st album (BOC) on the CD also remastered?? It's supposed to be! - Andy ObCD: Calexico - _'98-'99 Roadmap_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Thu May 6 09:41:37 1999 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (James A Hogard) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 08:41:37 -0500 Subject: OFF: Tape trade Message-ID: Is there a suggested tape length for the trade? Hogard From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu May 6 08:40:21 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 08:40:21 -0400 Subject: OFF: Final Ozrics word Message-ID: Paul asked... >Does anyone know the URL for "Mikes incredible site?" http://www.execpc.com/~mwerning/ Keith H. (FAA) From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu May 6 07:28:05 1999 From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 12:28:05 +0100 Subject: OFF: Final Ozrics word Message-ID: Paul Mather wrote 6 May: >Does anyone know the URL for "Mikes incredible site?" >Cheers, >Paul. Yeah, there's a link to this site (Ozric Tentacles) and plenty of other bands on the Hawkeye links page under Bands and Artists. http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/links_page All the best Age From hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET Thu May 6 11:34:06 1999 From: hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET (D Witt) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 10:34:06 -0500 Subject: OFF: Ozrics Message-ID: > We the Ozric Tentacles are deeply upset that we are unable to make the > upcoming shows in the USA. This situation has arisen for several reasons > that are absolutely out of our hands at the moment but we are working > extremely hard to try and reschsdule all of the shows for late summer along > with additional shows. My friend tells me the Minneapolis show has been rescheduled for July. Hopefully by that time the band will get permission to enter the US. From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu May 6 13:11:37 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 18:11:37 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ozric link In-Reply-To: Adrian Parr's message of Thu, 6 May 1999 12:28:05 +0100 Message-ID: Adrian Parr writes: > Yeah, there's a link to this site (Ozric Tentacles) and plenty of other > bands on the Hawkeye links page under Bands and Artists. > http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/links_page you need to add .html at the end of this to make it work. Leastways I did. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu May 6 13:36:45 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 18:36:45 +0100 Subject: Tape trade In-Reply-To: <19990506.084146.243.3.james.hogard@juno.com> Message-ID: > > Is there a suggested tape length for the trade? > > Hogard Most folks last time did C-90s, but some did more, some did CD-Rs, whatever. I'd say a C-60 minimum, really, but it's not a rule, just a guideline. Share as much (or as little!) as you want to share! - Andy ObCD: Moa - _Universal_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu May 6 14:21:50 1999 From: brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 19:21:50 +0100 Subject: HW Beduion Preston In-Reply-To: <3730BFB6.90F22A5B@global2000.net> Message-ID: Hello Big thanks to the chap who Emailed the note about the cancellation at Preston(unfortunately I deleted the email in shock) it saved me a journey in vain although for all I know I would have liked Julie Weaver whoever she is but I doubt it. Thanks again Brian From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu May 6 14:48:13 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 14:48:13 EDT Subject: OFF/HW: Brainstorm Message-ID: In a message dated 99-05-06 08:27:05 EDT, you write: << Sorry to hear that Chuck. I did say at the time that despite the name they weren't like HW, but I guess that got lost somewhere in my enthusiasm for it ... S. >> ---Or my own enthusiasm! I prob. just saw the name and said "Yes" w/out reading any further. Chuck From kg at THING.DE Thu May 6 19:05:56 1999 From: kg at THING.DE (stalker) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 01:05:56 +0200 Subject: The Moor + Nik Turner + K. Gerwers TOUR (update) Message-ID: Hello, there has been a change in tour-schedule of THE MOOR / NIK TURNER / K. GERWERS - here are the definite gigs/dates: 13. 5. 1999, Riedlingen / Donau / location: Kanzlei Alte Unlinger Str. 6 (Autobahn A8, Abf.Ulm/West, B10/B30 nach Biberach, B312) 14. 5. 1999, Heidelberg / location: Schwimmbad Musikclub 15. 5. 1999, Stuttgart / K?ngen, Richtung/direction: Kirchheim/Teck, location: Jugendhaus Trafo Denkendorfer Stra?e 1, 73257 K?ngen support: Der Kampf gegen den Schlaf - the gig in Heidelberg will be particularly interesting..... I hope some of you will have the opportunity to show up. more info on the tour + the musicians: http://home.t-online.de/home/sonicattack/li-moor.htm http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/themoor.htm best, knut From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu May 6 19:31:44 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 00:31:44 +0100 Subject: The Moor + Nik Turner + K. Gerwers TOUR (update) Message-ID: Worth seeing this lot if you can ... The Moor rock! Cheers, Carl ObCD: _Stoned Revolution_ -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri May 7 00:54:22 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 00:54:22 EDT Subject: Tape trade Message-ID: In a message dated 5/6/99 1:37:47 PM, Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: <> okay...any idea when the sharing will begin? whoever i get, gets xtra ^_~ mr. "drums of doom" hisself "<>" From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 7 03:42:24 1999 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 07:42:24 GMT Subject: Bedouin ARE going to Preston!! / CD prices In-Reply-To: <3483052774@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 6 May 1999 13:08:03 GMT+0, you wrote: >If anyone is planning to go to see Bedouin this Saturday (8 May) as >advertised on the Hawkwind website, CHECK first!! Yes, check first before you set out anyway, but the band are going. > >I have just phoned the Apelphi (which is just over the road from >where I work) and they tell me that Jane Weaver is playing on 8 May - >they have no date for Bedouin. If anyone knows better than this then >please let me know but the Adelphi are unaware of Bedouin playing! > I saw the contract last night stating that Bedouin and Harvey Bainbridge ARE playing Preston Adelphi on May 8th. A quick phone call to the Adelphi confirmed this to be still the case. If Jane Weaver turns up then Danny will probably drown her out with his drums or sit on her! Bedouin CD prices in UK pounds inc. P+P to the USA are as follows: SciFiDelic 10 Live 98 12 Alien Heart 14 Blue vinyl EP 8 All available from Bedouin PO Box 38 Honiton Devon EX14 9YW Neil. From m.r.varley at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri May 7 11:03:03 1999 From: m.r.varley at UCLAN.AC.UK (Martin Varley) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 11:03:03 GMT+0 Subject: Bedouin @ Adelphi, Preston Message-ID: Hello again list I have just spoken to the manager at the Adelphi Preston and he tells me thatBedouin have cancelled the May 8 gig - they were going to reschedule but as yet they haven't. Someone else posted a message that the band will turn up tomorrow so clearly there is some confusion. If any has concrete info then ploease let us all know - as far as I can tell they may or may not be playing, but the adelphi say not and they have someone else on (Jane Weaver). Yours in confusion Martin From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 7 08:14:58 1999 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 12:14:58 GMT Subject: Bedouin @ Adelphi, Preston In-Reply-To: <4A6DF032EB@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 7 May 1999 11:03:03 GMT+0, you wrote: >Hello again list > >I have just spoken to the manager at the Adelphi Preston and he tells >me thatBedouin have cancelled the May 8 gig - they were going to >reschedule but as yet they haven't. > >Someone else posted a message that the band will turn up tomorrow so >clearly there is some confusion. > >If any has concrete info then ploease let us all know - as far as I >can tell they may or may not be playing, but the adelphi say not and >they have someone else on (Jane Weaver). > Bedouin have a signed contract from the Adelphi saying they ARE playing May 8th. I have seen it. The Adelphi is bound to this contract. I think the confusion is because originally they were to play on the 13th, but the contract clearly shows May 8th. The band WILL be going. They checked last night with the venue and everything seemed OK. When did the manager say that the band had cancelled? I'll check again with the band tonight and keep you posted. Neil. From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 7 13:53:04 1999 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Fri, 7 May 1999 18:53:04 +0100 Subject: Bedouin @ Adelphi, Preston Message-ID: Preston is now OFF for May 8th. The Adelphi did not get confirmation of the change to May 8th, so booked someone else. They are ignoring the contract I saw last night. They may be able to reschedule for next Friday May 14th, will post more soon. Neil From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri May 7 19:42:12 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 00:42:12 +0100 Subject: OFF: vote for best album to crank up and play bass to ... Message-ID: ... goes to darXtar, _Daybreak_. 20 straight minutes of uninterupted riffing and improv on the last two tracks :) blanga blanga :) Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Sat May 8 07:21:35 1999 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 13:21:35 +0200 Subject: HW: German Hawkwind Meeting (update!!) Message-ID: Hi folks Here is an update for the German Hawkwind meeting on 11.06.99 - 13.06.1999 in Hamburg The following bands are confirmed for Friday: - Mandragora Light Show Society - Hal9000 - Mother Superior The following bands are confirmed for Saturday: - Huw Lloyd Langton Band - Space Head - Zone 6 The event takes place open air on the clubground of the Heavy-Metal Club TIPSY APES in HAMBURG HARBURG, GERMANY AM RADELAND - near "HEIN GAS" Industriegebiet/ industrial estate this is a non-commercial festival - free camping - light show - food and beverages for small money. DONATIONS ARE ESSENTIAL AND WELCOMED! DONATIONS ARE ESSENTIAL AND WELCOMED! DONATIONS ARE ESSENTIAL AND WELCOMED! The festival ground will already be open on friday - time for music, dia show and chatting! Live music starts on Saturday on 20.00 h How to get there: by car Autobahn A 7, exit HEIMFELD turn right direction Harburg after 800 m turn left at traffic light (sign MOORBURG) next left again next left. after 800 m there you are (follow the noise) by train Hamburg central station take S-Bahn to Hamburg Harburg Bahnhof AT Bahnhof enter Bus No. 141 or 241, direction NEUGRABEN or BOSTELBEEK get out at "Berkefeldweg", at Nissan Car-Dealer enter Pedestrian Bridge, down left ramp, there you are STATE-OF-THE-ART HISTORY 1997 The Rakes (D) 1998 Tranquilizer (D) Nik Turner (GB) Growing Seeds (D) Tribe of Cro (GB/B) Zone Six (D) The Moor (S) Nik Turner (GB) Dark Sun (SF) Trev Thoms (GB) Alan Davey?s Bedouin Alan Davey?s Bedouin(GB) Trevor Thoms (GB) Mandragora Lightshow For more information contact Soenke Kuehne phone ++ +4120/ 519 Thomas Leonhardt phone/fax ++ +4122/489927 Bernhard From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat May 8 08:32:15 1999 From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr) Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 13:32:15 +0100 Subject: HW: Buxton and Bedouin at Preston Message-ID: Hi Folks Just had word that Bedouin will be playing the Adelphi Hotel in Preston on Friday 14. May (as opposed to 8. May) and Harvey Bainbridge will still support. Also expecting update on Hawkwind's performance at Buxton Festival which will be found later this weekend at: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/whats_new.html Thanks to Jill for pointing out the missing part of the link to the Hawkeye links page, the correct URL is: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/links_page.html Here you'll find loads of links to other fine bands, artists, Sci-Fi authors, stockists of Hawkwind music and plenty more besides. All the best Age Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Sat May 8 08:42:08 1999 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 13:42:08 +0100 Subject: OT: Psych rock - London, Tuesday Message-ID: Lowcraft ('highly rated up-and-coming US psychedelic rock band' - review) play Camden Palace (NW1) Tuesday 11th May - 10pm, ?5, concs ?3. If anyone knows whether they're worth watching, let us know. Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat May 8 16:40:30 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 16:40:30 -0400 Subject: OFF/HW: KREL Message-ID: Chuck said.... >Speaking of giving things a try, I've been listening to Brainstorm, a CD >which Sonique convinced me to buy. Judging by the name, liners, etc, I was >pretty excited, but not only is it not at all like HW, it's not space-rock or >anything even related. >Not that there's anything wrong w/that, but it's just not the sort of thing >I'm into now. Disappointing. I'm interested in trading for it. I kinda like it (I borrowed Jerry's copy). And it's closer to space rock than a lot of what I hear called 'space rock' these days. Though it's certainly far from HW-style. Closer to Caravan in some places, and The Feelies on a couple of occasions. (Both of which I like also.) Contact me personally Chuck if you wanna work something out. My list of items is expanding again. > ObCD: The Exploding Meet - Circus of Disharmony > >PS: What's this? A pretty cool instrumental CD by a band from New Brunswick, Canada. I'd liken it to the experimental/improv stuff of either (or both) Djam Karet or Escapade (who I heard just broke up...anyone confirm? I guess they won't be at SD'99 after all). But sometimes TEM do things closer to Melting Euphoria. That's where they get the 'space rock' tag. Keith H. (FAA) Off to see Helios now... From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Sun May 9 05:35:22 1999 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 11:35:22 +0200 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live Message-ID: Utrecht, 7/May/99 I?m not quite sure if I liked this gig. They?ve had some brilliant moments, but half of the gig was pretty boring! Anyway, at least they have their own style and they are real trained musicians. Steven Wilson is one of the very best guitar guitar players around. Tracklisting: Even less Piano lessons Waiting phase 1 Waiting phase 2 Don?t hate me Signify Pure narcotic A smart kid Voyage 34 Slave called shiver Tinto Brass The sky moves sideways -Encore1: Nine cats Dislocated day -Encore2: Radioactive toy total amount of music: 110 min A good light show with slides and strobes, and an enthusiastic audience of 600 people from Holland, Belgium and Germany (PT have never done a gig there). Delerium had a stall selling PT CD?s and shirts for very high prices. I think the PT business is getting more and more commercial, but on the other hand it?s not bad to have a good commercial band among so much crap, isn?t it? Andreas From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Sun May 9 05:45:32 1999 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 11:45:32 +0200 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Utrecht, 7/May/99 >I?m not quite sure if I liked this gig. They?ve had some brilliant moments, but >half of the gig was pretty boring! Anyway, at least they have their own >style and >they are real trained musicians. Steven Wilson is one of the very best guitar >guitar players around. > >Tracklisting: > >Even less >Piano lessons >Waiting phase 1 >Waiting phase 2 >Don?t hate me >Signify >Pure narcotic >A smart kid >Voyage 34 >Slave called shiver >Tinto Brass >The sky moves sideways > -Encore1: >Nine cats >Dislocated day > -Encore2: >Radioactive toy > >total amount of music: 110 min > >A good light show with slides and strobes, and an enthusiastic audience of 600 >people from Holland, Belgium and Germany (PT have never done a gig there). >Delerium had a stall selling PT CD?s and shirts for very high prices. I >think the >PT business is getting more and more commercial, but on the other hand it?s not >bad to have a good commercial band among so much crap, isn?t it? > >Andreas saw them one day after in 's-hertogenbosch. and i had the same feeling about the gig. have seen them probably 10 times now. but i think they played their highlights a couple of years ago. when they released the sky moves sideways they performed brilliant gigs. they become big and probably they deserve it too. i don't know if i will go next time to their gigs. andre From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun May 9 18:01:56 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:01:56 +0100 Subject: OFF: Tape swap 1999 Message-ID: I have the following people signed up for this year's tape swap: Alun Hughes Andrew Apold Andrew Wilson Andy Gilham Bart Brugmans Brian Halligan Chris Baxley Chris Warburton Dave Berry James Hogard Jon Jarrett Larry Boyd Mark P Lee Michael Habiby Rus Hall Stuart Hamilton Tim Fulcher Tom Marazita (9 UK, 8 USA, 1 NL. Maybe I'll make *everybody* send their tape to another country. :) If anyone else wants to join in, tell me now! When you've made your tape, LET ME KNOW by e-mail! In two weeks' time, on the 23rd of May, I'll send instructions ONLY to those of you who have confirmed that your tape is ready! (Discipline must be enforced! :) (PS - A couple of people mentioned that they'd already done their tape - please can they notify me again as I haven't been keeping track and may have deleted your mail. I myself have done my tape, which includes tasters of several of my current favourites, in divers genres and languages.) - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun May 9 20:34:51 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 01:34:51 +0100 Subject: OFF: Pink Fairies, 'Pleasure Island' In-Reply-To: <199905051557.SAA19949@pefletti.saunalahti.fi> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 May 1999, Miikka Wagner wrote: > Consider this album, is there vinyl too or is it only CD? and where I can > get this (vinyl)? Help, please. Miikka, don't know where it would be obtainable by normal routes, Twink's label doesn't seem to have a distribution as such, but the label's address is: Twink Records, 17 Gladstone Road, Colchester, CO1 2EA, UK. They give an e-mail address on 'No Picture too, but it appears to be the one for the studio where it was recorded, and I'm not sure if this has anything to do with the band or the label. But, for what it's worth, it's . Hope this helps, yours, Jon From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Mon May 10 00:47:55 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:47:55 +1000 Subject: OFF: Brainstorm (was Re: OFF/HW: KREL) Message-ID: First, Chuck said.... > >Speaking of giving things a try, I've been listening to Brainstorm, a CD > >which Sonique convinced me to buy. Judging by the name, liners, etc, I was > >pretty excited, but not only is it not at all like HW, it's not space-rock or > >anything even related. Then, Keith Henderson wrote: > I'm interested in trading for it. I kinda like it (I borrowed Jerry's > copy). And it's closer to space rock than a lot of what I hear called > 'space rock' these days. Though it's certainly far from HW-style. Closer > to Caravan in some places, and The Feelies on a couple of occasions. (Both > of which I like also.) Saw them again on Saturday night. As usual they played quite a few tracks from their CD, as well as quite a few Hawkwind covers. Sorry to tell you Chuck that the CD is just one side to the band - The rendition they did of Assault & Battery/Golden Void almost made me cry it was that good. D-Rider, Psychedelic Warlord's, Master of the Universe and Aerospaceage Inferno were pretty damn good too. The good news I think is that they played one of their new tracks "Shadows", and by comparison to what's on "Tales ...", I'd say the next release will be a lot spacier and heavier. (But I'm with Keith - I reckon their CD's quite good even though it sounds nothing like HW despite the name). Soniqu? -- PO Box 378 Paul Ward Ashburton http://sonique.net VIC 3147 (time permitting) Mob:0418 524744 sonique at sonique.net From sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI Mon May 10 02:08:52 1999 From: sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI (Santeri Laakso) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:08:52 +0300 Subject: OFF: Amorphis In-Reply-To: <405994.3134902136@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi Carl! I would love to see those pictures! We hope to have our new album ready this year. New two-track promo will be ready soon, to be sent to record companies, so that we could get a decent deal. Let's see... I don't know how to get that Amorphis single outside Finland, sorry! By the way, I just bought a secondhand copy of Amorphis' Elegy album on vinyl, so I'm willing to trade/sell my Promo CD copy of it in cardboard covers. If someone is interested, just contact me! Santtu On Wed, 5 May 1999, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On ons 5 maj 1999 15.30 +0300 "Santeri Laakso" wrote: > > This is Santtu from Psychedelic Space rock band Dark Sun. > > Hei Santtu, good to see you here! I have some fairly decent > pictures of Dark Sun from the J?nk?ping festival last summer to > send to you (and I still owe Juba his pictures, and Scott his > tapes, and ... ah! this thesis is trouble :} ) > > When will your new album be available? :) > > > I just thought to add, that Divinity is also released as a CD single (at > > least in Finland) with a great non-CD track Northern Lights. It's the > > closest thing to Stoner rock that Amorphis has ever released. Just in case > > someone is interested... > > Absolutely! From where can it be ordered? (Can you get this > Henrik?) > > Cheers, > Carl > > for Jim Lascko, if he's listening: any chance of getting any of the > Scandinavian spacerock bands to the US SpaceDaze fest? > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic > St. John's College, University of Cambridge > mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk > http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ > From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Mon May 10 08:18:59 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:18:59 -0400 Subject: Coupla topics Message-ID: > Congrats John, I think you're the first BOC-L resident to enter Andy G's star > wars kill file :-) If he's afraid of spoilers, he need not fear any of MY emails... > > On tis 4 maj 1999 08.27 -0400 "John A. Swartz" wrote: > > Carl, it is sometimes kinda SCARY how much you and I think alike... > > Beer, Bass, BOC! See ya Back in Boston soon! :) Not to mention Macs, tBS, and "Ape shall never kill ape"... ;-) John From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon May 10 08:50:21 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:50:21 +0100 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: <3736CEB1.7FA2F1C@mitre.org> Message-ID: > > Congrats John, I think you're the first BOC-L resident to enter > Andy G's star > > wars kill file :-) > > If he's afraid of spoilers, he need not fear any of MY emails... > On the contrary, I'm just totally not interested in SW, and I'm just trying to live a SW-free existence over the next few months. A quixotic gesture, perhaps, especially when you spend a fair bit of time on the net, but I'm going to try! (It was a different story when I was 17, I know, but that was then and this is now!) - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon May 10 09:14:55 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:14:55 EDT Subject: OFF: Coupla topics [no BOC/HW] In-Reply-To: <000b01be9ae3$aa51e4e0$6b2d63c3@default> Message-ID: > From: Andy Gilham > > On the contrary, I'm just totally not interested in SW, and I'm just trying > to live a SW-free existence over the next few months. A quixotic gesture, > perhaps, especially when you spend a fair bit of time on the net, but I'm > going to try! > I'm with ya there, Andy. New SW flick is a non-issue to me. Far as I'm concerned, toss it in with ET and all the other little kiddie flicks. Can't understand why anyone over the age of 12 would care about it... theo From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon May 10 09:31:16 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:31:16 +0100 Subject: OFF: Coupla topics [no BOC/HW] Message-ID: On m?n 10 maj 1999 09.14 +0000 "Ted Jackson jr. s2h2" wrote: > I'm with ya there, Andy. New SW flick is a non-issue to me. Far as > I'm concerned, toss it in with ET and all the other little kiddie > flicks. Can't understand why anyone over the age of 12 would care > about it... But battling against Evil with spaceships and lasers is cool! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon May 10 09:40:17 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:40:17 GMT Subject: OFF: Coupla topics [no BOC/HW] In-Reply-To: <815964.3135335476@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 May 1999 14:31:16 +0100, Carl Edlund Anderson did opine thusly: >On m?n 10 maj 1999 09.14 +0000 "Ted Jackson jr. s2h2" > wrote: >> I'm with ya there, Andy. New SW flick is a non-issue to me. Far as >> I'm concerned, toss it in with ET and all the other little kiddie >> flicks. Can't understand why anyone over the age of 12 would care >> about it... > > But battling against Evil with spaceships and lasers is cool! :) > Spaceships!? Lasers!? I thought it was something to do with giant mutants cans of orange fizzy drink being brandished by a kid called Dennis in a red and black jumper. Why else call the Damned Thing 'The Fanta Menace'? andrew From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon May 10 09:50:27 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:50:27 +0100 Subject: OFF: Dark Sun ( was Re: OFF: Amorphis) Message-ID: On m?n 10 maj 1999 09.08 +0300 "Santeri Laakso" wrote: > I would love to see those pictures! We hope to have our new album ready > this year. New two-track promo will be ready soon, to be sent to record > companies, so that we could get a decent deal. Let's see... I will send the pictures soon--I have some to send to Captain Juba also (and some to send to Scott Heller, currently occupied by his recently-arrived daughter). I owe many things to many people, actually, but have been distracted by trying to finish my PhD! Good to hear that the new album is on the way. Will the new material which you played at J?nk?ping be on it? The tune of "Iskariot" (I think that was the name) has been stuck in my head since then! By the way, I very much recommend Dark Sun to HW fans. My sense is of a sound somewhere in between Calvert-era and _HotMG_, plus various other progressive/psych influences. Very clean production, very melodic. My usual personal inclination is towards a more Lemmified "in yer face" spacerock (as darXtar and Pseudo Sun and Bedouin have done in various ways at various times) but Dark Sun add polish without losing energy. I was quite impressed seeing them live last year, never having heard them before their soundcheck! Their first album _Feed Your Mind_ is a killer to get ahold of, and I think the 7" has sold out as well, but definitely look into the new album when it arrives. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon May 10 11:05:56 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:05:56 EDT Subject: Coupla topics Message-ID: In a message dated 5/10/99 8:51:21 AM, Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: <> y'know, i didnt see any of the STAR WARS movies until i saw all three at once, in '91...i concur with mr. gilham's desire for a SW-free existence...and yet... rotsa ruck! ^_~ "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon May 10 11:12:45 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:12:45 EDT Subject: OFF: Coupla topics [no BOC/HW] Message-ID: In a message dated 5/10/99 9:15:34 AM, tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes: << Can't understand why anyone over the age of 12 would care about it...>> ...it was/is FLASH GORDON fortified by contemporary technology; perhaps in 1976 it liberated some people from the post-watergate doldrums... did folks then believe STAR WARS would become its own industry? i doubt it...but they probably wouldnt have expected something like CAR 54 WHERE ARE YOU to become a major motion picture either...^_~ ...i guess the big-screen version of THREE'S COMPANY will be following shortly...(shudder) o cannibalize me.... TH"<>"EO From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon May 10 11:18:26 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:18:26 +0100 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: Andy Gilham's message of Mon, 10 May 1999 13:50:21 +0100 Message-ID: Andy Gilham writes: > I'm just totally not interested in SW, and I'm just trying > to live a SW-free existence over the next few months. A quixotic gesture, > perhaps, especially when you spend a fair bit of time on the net, but I'm > going to try! Well nobody's gonna Force you to see it. On the other hand, tyhe ad campaign will probably be so omnipresent Yoda'rent go outside. FoFP From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon May 10 11:17:30 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:17:30 EDT Subject: OFF: Coupla topics [no BOC/HW] Message-ID: In a message dated 5/10/99 9:40:08 AM, andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: << > But battling against Evil with spaceships and lasers is cool! :) > Spaceships!? Lasers!? I thought it was something to do with giant mutants cans of orange fizzy drink being brandished by a kid called Dennis in a red and black jumper. Why else call the Damned Thing 'The Fanta Menace'? andrew >> ouch ouch ouch not sure you can still find fanta in soda machines in the US, at least not country-wide...(insert punful reference to MR. PIBB, which i dont have time to think up....) "<>" From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon May 10 11:36:48 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:36:48 EDT Subject: OFF: Coupla topics [no BOC/HW] In-Reply-To: <681a6654.2468516d@aol.com> Message-ID: > From: DASLUD at AOL.COM ..but they probably wouldnt have expected something like CAR 54 WHERE ARE > YOU to become a major motion picture either...^_~ Don't know how 'major' a flick it was. Almost went direct to video. Think it played all of a week here in culturally-challenged bumble-fuck > > ...i guess the big-screen version of THREE'S COMPANY will be following > shortly...(shudder) You the man! Shouldn't be too long a wait... theo From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon May 10 11:45:09 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 23:45:09 +0800 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi there Having grown up in the UK on TV shows such as Doctor Who, Out Of The Unknown, the Gerry Anderson shows, Quatermass, etc., I wasn't too impressed when I first saw Star Trek, as I just didn't find it as intriguing as the British shows I had seen up 'til then (I was fairly lucky that my parents would let me stay up until 11pm long before I was 10). When the first Star Wars movie came out, I was one of the few I knew who didn't rush out to see it. I was partly put off by someone who had never seen Doctor Who that thought the Daleks were similar to R2D2 (cute robots!!).I was also not that interested as I liked my SF to be more character driven, and less special effects. I never saw it until it was out on video for about 2 years, and still don't know what the fuss was about. I did, in fact, go see The Empire Strikes Back at the cinema, and rather liked it. I saw it the same evening I went to see Black Sabbath, with Dio singing. It was after this that I got the video out. The 3rd one I also saw at the cinema one day when I was really bored, and could find nothing else to do. I should have gone home to sleep instead! > < just trying > to live a SW-free existence over the next few months. A quixotic gesture, > >> > > y'know, i didnt see any of the STAR WARS movies until i saw all three at > once, in '91...i concur with mr. gilham's desire for a SW-free > existence...and yet... > I know some people who talk about nothing but the new movie. I might go and see it with friends if they go, but I won't go out of my way to see it. I'd much rather see a movie with a good plot and acting, than a special effects laden visual bore. What would make my day is a Doctor Who movie. William From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon May 10 11:53:43 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 23:53:43 +0800 Subject: OFF: Coupla topics [no BOC/HW] In-Reply-To: <326F01326C6@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: > > ...i guess the big-screen version of THREE'S COMPANY will be following > > shortly...(shudder) > One day we may even see a big-screen version of the TEST CARD??? William From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon May 10 11:50:38 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:50:38 -0400 Subject: Coupla topics Message-ID: Did you catch the made for TV Dr. Who movie a couple of years back? > ---------- > From: William Duffy[SMTP:xl5 at IINET.NET.AU] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 11:45 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: Coupla topics > > Hi there > > Having grown up in the UK on TV shows such as Doctor Who, Out Of The > Unknown, the Gerry Anderson shows, Quatermass, etc., I wasn't too > impressed > when I first saw Star Trek, as I just didn't find it as intriguing as the > British shows I had seen up 'til then (I was fairly lucky that my parents > would let me stay up until 11pm long before I was 10). When the first Star > Wars movie came out, I was one of the few I knew who didn't rush out to > see > it. I was partly put off by someone who had never seen Doctor Who that > thought the Daleks were similar to R2D2 (cute robots!!).I was also not > that > interested as I liked my SF to be more character driven, and less special > effects. I never saw it until it was out on video for about 2 years, and > still don't know what the fuss was about. > > I did, in fact, go see The Empire Strikes Back at the cinema, and rather > liked it. I saw it the same evening I went to see Black Sabbath, with Dio > singing. It was after this that I got the video out. > The 3rd one I also saw at the cinema one day when I was really bored, and > could find nothing else to do. I should have gone home to sleep instead! > > > < > just trying > > to live a SW-free existence over the next few months. A quixotic > gesture, > > >> > > > > y'know, i didnt see any of the STAR WARS movies until i saw all three at > > once, in '91...i concur with mr. gilham's desire for a SW-free > > existence...and yet... > > > I know some people who talk about nothing but the new movie. I might go > and > see it with friends if they go, but I won't go out of my way to see it. > I'd > much rather see a movie with a good plot and acting, than a special > effects > laden visual bore. > > What would make my day is a Doctor Who movie. > > William > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon May 10 12:26:22 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:26:22 +0800 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD021CF3A2@emss05m03.sanders.lmco.com> Message-ID: > Did you catch the made for TV Dr. Who movie a couple of years back? > Yep. It was very disappointing, particularly as Paul McGann is one of my favourite actors, and I would have loved to have seen him given the opportunity to do it properly. One of the reasons they took so long to do it was trying to get him to play the role. He didn't want to do it if it was 'Americanized', which is what happened anyway, although it's not as bad as the previous plots written for it. One of the reasons Spielberg dropped out was because he wanted to change far too much (ie He wanted Daleks in it, but like The Terminator??) An interesting book on the struggles to make a Doctor Who movie is THE NTH DOCTOR. William From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Mon May 10 12:26:14 1999 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 02:26:14 +1000 Subject: Coupla topics Message-ID: William Duffy wrote: > Yep. It was very disappointing, particularly as Paul McGann is one of my > favourite actors, and I would have loved to have seen him given the > opportunity to do it properly. One thing about that film was that I kept expecting Richard E. Grant to pop up and say "Matter? Where's it comming from???" or some such line. Ah well, never mind... - Max From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon May 10 12:56:44 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:56:44 +0800 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: <373708A6.FC837062@uq.net.au> Message-ID: > > Yep. It was very disappointing, particularly as Paul McGann is one of my > > favourite actors, and I would have loved to have seen him given the > > opportunity to do it properly. > > One thing about that film was that I kept expecting > Richard E. Grant to > pop up and say "Matter? Where's it comming from???" or some such line. > Ah well, never mind... > Richard E Grant plays the Doctor in The Curse Of Fatal Death (the recent Doctor Who/Comic relief story). He starts off as Rowan Atkinson. I don't want to give anymore away, but if you haven't seen it, try to obtain a copy. William From kg at THING.DE Mon May 10 12:58:30 1999 From: kg at THING.DE (stalker) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:58:30 +0200 Subject: THE MOOR + NIK TURNER + K. Gerwers TOUR (Last Call) Message-ID: Hello, last call for everyone.... its goiing to be fully rehearsed, long shows.... to be recorded for (hopefully) later release) THE MOOR feat. NIK TURNER / K. Gerwers - the gigs/dates: 13. 5. 1999, Riedlingen / Donau / location: Kanzlei Alte Unlinger Str. 6 (Autobahn A8, Abf.Ulm/West, B10/B30 nach Biberach, B312) 14. 5. 1999, Heidelberg / location: Schwimmbad Musikclub 15. 5. 1999, Stuttgart / K?ngen, Richtung/direction: Kirchheim/Teck, location: Jugendhaus Trafo Denkendorfer Stra?e 1, 73257 K?ngen support: Der Kampf gegen den Schlaf - the gig in Heidelberg will be particularly interesting..... I hope some of you will have the opportunity to show up. more info on the tour + the musicians: http://home.t-online.de/home/sonicattack/li-moor.htm http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/themoor.htm best, knut From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon May 10 13:11:03 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:11:03 +0100 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: William Duffy's message of Tue, 11 May 1999 00:26:22 +0800 Message-ID: William Duffy writes: > > Did you catch the made for TV Dr. Who movie a couple of years back? > > > Yep. It was very disappointing, particularly as Paul McGann is one of my > favourite actors, and I would have loved to have seen him given the > opportunity to do it properly. > One of the reasons they took so long to do it was trying to get him to play > the role. He didn't want to do it if it was 'Americanized', which is what > happened anyway, although it's not as bad as the previous plots written for > it. One of the reasons Spielberg dropped out was because he wanted to change > far too much (ie He wanted Daleks in it, but like The Terminator??) I think it'd have been a much better movie with either Daleks or Cybermen in it, though maybe updated versions of 'em. The real problem with the movie was that, as with others, they spent so much of the movie explaining who the Doctor was, and even why he wore a scarf, that there just wasn't any time left for a plot. That the plot concerned time running out was ironically apposite. Paul McGann, IMHO, would clearly make a better Doctor than some of the later ones in the TV series. Perhaps when they find the plot... FoFP From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Mon May 10 13:24:28 1999 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:24:28 +0200 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live Message-ID: cosmos schrieb: > saw them one day after in 's-hertogenbosch. > and i had the same feeling about the gig. > have seen them probably 10 times now. > but i think they played their highlights a couple of years ago. > when they released the sky moves sideways they performed brilliant gigs. > they become big and probably they deserve it too. > i don't know if i will go next time to their gigs. > > andre If the gig in Utrecht would have been good I?d have liked to see them again the next day in Den Bosch, but sadly it wasn?t... after their stupid album Stupid dream I expected worse though. I guess this was my last Porcupine Tree gig. Let them follow the footsteps of Marillion/Fish etc., but without me! I?m hoping that they are getting real big so that I can make a fortune out of selling my PT collection... One year ago in Uden they were brilliant, not that much pop stuff. In 1995 they sounded like Pink Floyd clones, but not in a bad sense. Andreas From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon May 10 13:35:07 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:35:07 +0800 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: <199905101711.SAA06320@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi > I think it'd have been a much better movie with either Daleks or > Cybermen in it, though maybe updated versions of 'em. > I agree. Another company actually had the rights to make a film, and were all ready to go into production, when they discovered that the BBC had done something naughty, and gave the rights to someone else (because Spielberg was linked to it!). Their movie was to feature updated Daleks, including Spider Daleks, which looked like normal Daleks, then morphed into Spider-like versions. There's photos of them on the Web somewhere. > The real problem with the movie was that, as with others, they spent so > much of the movie explaining who the Doctor was, and even why he wore a > scarf, that there just wasn't any time left for a plot. That the plot > concerned time running out was ironically apposite. > Some people hated the original Peter Cushing movies, but I enjoyed them, partly because they were colourful, but mostly because they didn't beat about the bush, and got on with making a good yarn. When they did the Telemovie, they spent a lot of time trying to please fans with too many references, and trying to explain to new viewers what it was all about. If they did them like the original films, they would have quite easily have got on with making a memorable film. > Paul McGann, IMHO, would clearly make a better Doctor than some of the > later ones in the TV series. Perhaps when they find the plot... > He's far better than the last 3 TV Doctors. William From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon May 10 13:40:36 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:40:36 -0400 Subject: Coupla topics Message-ID: > > Paul McGann, IMHO, would clearly make a better Doctor than some of the > > later ones in the TV series. Perhaps when they find the plot... > > > He's far better than the last 3 TV Doctors. > > William > I thought that Sylvester McCoy kinda got shafted. He struck me as a pretty good Doctor - sort for P. Troughton - ish. But the stories were horrible. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon May 10 12:57:51 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:57:51 -0400 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live Message-ID: Andreas said... >If the gig in Utrecht would have been good I?d have liked to see them again the >next day in Den Bosch, but sadly it wasn?t... after their stupid album Stupid >Dream I expected worse though. I dunno, I'm having a hard time trying to determine my own response to this album. I've only had it a short time (four listens so far) and am wondering how I'm going to review it for the next issue of AI. Everyone here (on boc-l) seems to hate it, and everyone on PT-Trans seems to love it (or keep quiet). :) I have a mixed response. I don't believe that it is necessarily 'pop' or 'commercial' or a 'sell-out' whatever. Only Piano Lessons seems like a 'radio' song to me, because it's so empty and thoughtless. :) (And I guess it *has* been played on the radio over here. Bad news I say. Why would any band want to be 'known' for their worst song?) But I agree that some of the very worst PT music is on this album. Crap tunes like 'A Smart Kid' 'Pure Narcotic,' and "Stranger by the Minute." Steve Wilson used to write 'thinly-composed' songs that were epic and poignant (Radioactive Toy and V34 come to mind)...but some of *these* thinly-composed songs just sound ordinary and lifeless, it's true. And the orchestrations are cheesy, and the angelic all-Steve Wilson choir is awful! But I don't see why it's called 'pop'. I just think it's less 'rock' so what else to call it? I guess 'shoegazer-dream rock' a la Spiritualized, Slowdive and/or the first Verve album. And so what, those bands may sell more albums than PT, but I've never heard any of them on the radio (Spiritualized was used in a TV ad though). Well, I don't listen to the radio I admit. :) But, that said, I still think there are some real highlights on the album as well, and as such I will still recommend it. (It only fails if you hold them to a higher standard than everyone else.) Don't Hate Me is fabulous, and the Gong-like jam is irresistable. Even Less is also exciting, as is Tinto Brass in a herky-jerky krautrocky way. This is No Rehearsal is pretty cool also. But 4 out of 11 or 12 isn't a very good hit/miss ratio certainly. But I wouldn't count them out entirely....I think SW has got a lot of good music left in him. All you have to do is compare Fish's very strong 'Sunsets on Empire' (with SW producing, writing, and playing guitar) with the new crappy 'Raingods with Zippos' (with SW only playing guitar) to know what he can create. So, yes, I think it was a bad move in a way, but only because it got away from PT's strength - ie., crunchy riffs a la 'Signify' and energetic drumming from Chris Maitland (who is woefully underused on SD). But this album *might* have worked alright for a different band. >I guess this was my last Porcupine Tree gig. Let >them follow the footsteps of Marillion/Fish etc., but without me! SD is far better than either Radiation (ugh!) or RwZ (ugh! again). >I?m hoping that they are getting real big so that I can make a fortune out of >selling my PT collection... I don't see it happening really. It's not *that* bad. :) Keith H. (FAA) From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon May 10 14:10:18 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:10:18 +0100 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD021CF3A3@emss05m03.sanders.lmco.com> Message-ID: I thought they were going to have Helen Baxendale (Emily out of _Friends_) as the new Dr Who? That's all I have to say on that topic... but today's mails are an example of why I have SW filters in place. And still some gets through... - Andy ObCD: Atari Teenage Riot - _60 Second Wipe Out_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon May 10 14:18:20 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:18:20 +0100 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: <199905101809.OAA24754@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 May 1999, Keith Henderson wrote: > But I don't see why it's called 'pop'. I just think it's less > 'rock' so what else to call it? I guess 'shoegazer-dream rock' a la > Spiritualized, Slowdive and/or the first Verve album. And so what, those > bands may sell more albums than PT, but I've never heard any of them on the > radio (Spiritualized was used in a TV ad though). Well, I don't listen to > the radio I admit. :) Gods, you couldn't get _away_ from The Verve last year! Not their first album, I grant you, which I heard some of on John Peel (which isn't radio as we mean radio :-), but definitely an air-play band. I think SW's aware that his nice new label will want him to sell records, and from the reaction of my more mainstream-listening friends to it, it's probably going to do that. Let's hope this is a temporary trend. I don;t like it when PT actually produce bad songs, like 'Stop Swimming', though I have to admit I thought 'A Smart Kid' was one of the best tracks... > So, yes, I think it was a bad move in a way, but only because it got away > from PT's strength - ie., crunchy riffs a la 'Signify' and energetic > drumming from Chris Maitland (who is woefully underused on SD). But this > album *might* have worked > alright for a different band. I've said to several people: Steve has written a load of No Man songs for PT. They used to sound like Floyd and now they sound like Radiohead only less damaged. What annoys me is that this was supposed to be the album where the band all composed together for the first time, and actually there's less collaboration than there was on 'Signify'. Yours, Jon From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon May 10 13:34:05 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:34:05 -0400 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live Message-ID: >On Mon, 10 May 1999, Keith Henderson wrote: > >> But I don't see why it's called 'pop'. I just think it's less >> 'rock' so what else to call it? I guess 'shoegazer-dream rock' a la >> Spiritualized, Slowdive and/or the first Verve album. And so what, those >> bands may sell more albums than PT, but I've never heard any of them on the >> radio (Spiritualized was used in a TV ad though). Well, I don't listen to >> the radio I admit. :) > > Gods, you couldn't get _away_ from The Verve last year! Not their >first album, I grant you, which I heard some of on John Peel (which isn't >radio as we mean radio :-), but definitely an air-play band. Yeah, I only meant the first album, which I think is pretty decent. I have listened to two others (second and third?) and thought they were awful. And I don't know that I've ever heard *any* Verve other than from my own stereo (ASiH only). Are they *that* popular? Of course, I've only heard one Oasis song in my entire life, and that was on the TV. Terrible singer! Almost as bad as the guy in Radiohead. :) Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Britney Spears and Shania Twain are the ones that are so ubiquitous right now that even I can't escape. Man oh man, is BS awful!! From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon May 10 15:00:17 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:00:17 +0100 Subject: Coupla topics Message-ID: On tis 11 maj 1999 00.26 +0800 "William Duffy" wrote: > Yep. It was very disappointing, particularly as Paul McGann is one of my > favourite actors, and I would have loved to have seen him given the > opportunity to do it properly. Yup, McGann: Good, RestOfIt: Bad seems to be the most common opinion. Shame the BBC is too dumb to do anything about it. Me, I'm a big SW fan (not as much as Tania) but pretty big. I like space opera with heroes, lasers, and things that go whoosh. As a folklorist, I love picking apart the archetypes but that's different. I drawn the line at obsession, though! I'm good at being thorough, I'm bad at being psychologically dependent :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon May 10 15:01:17 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:01:17 +0100 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: <199905101845.OAA07606@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: > Yeah, I only meant the first album, which I think is pretty > decent. I have > listened to two others (second and third?) and thought they were > awful. And > I don't know that I've ever heard *any* Verve other than from my > own stereo > (ASiH only). Are they *that* popular? _Urban Hymns_ was pretty much constantly at number one in the UK album charts last summer. I got really bored with the sight of that bloke with the big nose walking through Hoxton with a bad attitude. :) > P.S. Britney Spears and Shania Twain are the ones that are so ubiquitous > right now that even I can't escape. Man oh man, is BS awful!! > See? :) I really think there's something wrong with getting an anorexic teenager to wear too much makeup and a school uniform two sizes too small, and have her singing "hit me one more time". (But maybe I'm just a puritan :) BTW, the Atari Teenage Riot album rocks big-time! Think Napalm Death meet the Prodigy and their bastard child gets all the best genes! - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon May 10 15:03:38 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:03:38 +0100 Subject: Coupla topics Message-ID: On tis 11 maj 1999 01.35 +0800 "William Duffy" wrote: > He's far better than the last 3 TV Doctors. I'm accustomed to people slagging off C Baker and the last one, but you'd better not be slagging off Peter Davidson, since he's my favorite! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon May 10 15:06:12 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:06:12 +0100 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live Message-ID: On m?n 10 maj 1999 19.18 +0100 "Jonathan Jarrett" wrote: > Gods, you couldn't get _away_ from The Verve last year! Well, I certainly don't know any of their stuff :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon May 10 15:10:04 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:10:04 +0100 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: <2024635.3135355572@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 May 1999, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On m?n 10 maj 1999 19.18 +0100 "Jonathan Jarrett" > wrote: > > Gods, you couldn't get _away_ from The Verve last year! > > Well, I certainly don't know any of their stuff :) I bet if I had a copy of 'The Drugs Don't Work and played it at you you'd recognise it without too much trouble just from cinema and pub jukebox exposure... Yours, Jon From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon May 10 15:24:45 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:24:45 GMT Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: <199905101845.OAA07606@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 May 1999 13:34:05 -0400, Keith Henderson paused from their hectic world to type this: >>> 'rock' so what else to call it? I guess 'shoegazer-dream rock' a la >>> Spiritualized, Slowdive and/or the first Verve album. And so what, those >(ASiH only). Are they *that* popular? Of course, I've only heard one Oasis >song in my entire life, and that was on the TV. Terrible singer! Almost as >bad as the guy in Radiohead. :) Rest assured that come the revolution these will all from the gallows swing. Especially Spiritualized. Twice. Sonic Boom was the talented one in Spacemen 3, he gets a collapsed lung, the other gets the music media falling over themselves to ride his coattails. Curse them! Curse them I say! ahem, i'll just get my coat andrew We're all here sitting in a rainbow, Gor Blimey! Hello Mrs Jones, how's your Bert's lumbago? - The Small Faces From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon May 10 15:31:31 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 03:31:31 +0800 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: <2015384.3135355418@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: > On tis 11 maj 1999 01.35 +0800 "William Duffy" wrote: > > He's far better than the last 3 TV Doctors. > > I'm accustomed to people slagging off C Baker and the last > one, but you'd better not be slagging off Peter Davidson, since > he's my favorite! :) > I like Peter Davison as an actor very much, but found his era to be mostly boring. William From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon May 10 15:35:33 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:35:33 GMT Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: <001801be9b17$7b7d12a0$6b2d63c3@default> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 May 1999 20:01:17 +0100, Andy Gilham paused from their hectic world to type this: >_Urban Hymns_ was pretty much constantly at number one in the UK album >charts last summer. I got really bored with the sight of that bloke with >the big nose walking through Hoxton with a bad attitude. :) although i did like the parody of it in that there 'Vindaloo' song in which 'he' gets knocked over by a car. If only this had happened in the late lamented Rod Hull and Emu's 'Vindaloo' pastiche advert, the world would then be nigh on perfect. ObHWcurry: Madras of the Universe ? ? We're all here sitting in a rainbow, Gor Blimey! Hello Mrs Jones, how's your Bert's lumbago? - The Small Faces From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon May 10 15:50:05 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:50:05 +0100 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live Message-ID: On m?n 10 maj 1999 20.10 +0100 "Jonathan Jarrett" wrote: > On Mon, 10 May 1999, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> On m?n 10 maj 1999 19.18 +0100 "Jonathan Jarrett" >> wrote: >> > Gods, you couldn't get _away_ from The Verve last year! >> >> Well, I certainly don't know any of their stuff :) > > I bet if I had a copy of 'The Drugs Don't Work and played it at > you you'd recognise it without too much trouble just from cinema and pub > jukebox exposure... That's certainly possible. I thought carefully about the wording of my statement for that reason, and decided it could stand :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon May 10 17:12:37 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:12:37 -0700 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live Message-ID: On Mon, 10 May 1999 19:24:45 GMT, andrew wrote: >On Mon, 10 May 1999 13:34:05 -0400, Keith Henderson > paused from their hectic world to type this: > >>>> 'rock' so what else to call it? I guess 'shoegazer-dream rock' a la >>>> Spiritualized, Slowdive and/or the first Verve album. And so what, those >>(ASiH only). Are they *that* popular? Of course, I've only heard one Oasis >>song in my entire life, and that was on the TV. Terrible singer! Almost as >>bad as the guy in Radiohead. :) > >Rest assured that come the revolution these will all from the gallows >swing. Especially Spiritualized. Twice. Sonic Boom was the talented >one in Spacemen 3, Amen to that, brother! I guess I was completely wrong when I compared the first Spectrum and Spiritualized singles ... I expected the band with the catchy shoegaze song to be a commercial monster, while the warmed-over Troggs cover with way too many glossy strings would go nowhere. Oh well, I've been wrong before. On the other hand, I found nothing compelling in Sonic's most recent US tour (solo as "E.A.R.") ... I can twist knobs on noise-making devices in my own studio anytime I want - if I'm gonna pay to see someone do that, they better be damn good at it! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon May 10 19:56:01 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:56:01 EDT Subject: OFF: SPACE DOES NOT CARE Play-list Message-ID: "Space Does not Care", 5/8/99, 88.3 F.M. KUCR, 9-11 pm PST every other Sat. 1.Amon Duul II--Soap Shop Rock (the whole four-part suite) 2.Melting Euphoria--Elixir of Light 3.The Spacious Mind--The Cave Song 4.F. Zappa--G-Spot Tornado (dedicated to Cisco the Chiquaqua) 5.The Tea Party--Sister Awake 6.Manilla Road--Open the Gates 7.Hawkwind--The Wizard Blew His Horn/Opa-Loka 8.The Orb--Valley 9.Saddar Bazaar--Sukoon (dedicated to Marsie) 10.Fripp/Eno--Evening Star 11.Zero Gravity--Centrifuge 12.Pressurehed--Bluff Creek, and Beyond 13.Psychedelic Warriors--White Zone 14.Levitation-Jay 15.Atomic Rooster--Sleeping for Years 16.Architectural Metaphor--Brainticket From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon May 10 20:14:17 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:14:17 +0100 Subject: OFF: SPACE DOES NOT CARE Play-list Message-ID: On m?n 10 maj 1999 19.56 +0000 "Chuck Rosenberg" wrote: > 3.The Spacious Mind--The Cave Song Cool. Anyone know what this lot are up to anyway? I ordered one of their CDs from Delerium back in February, but Delerium never got any copies in from them, so I eventually had to replace it with something else! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon May 10 19:14:15 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:14:15 -0400 Subject: OFF: SPACE DOES NOT MIND Message-ID: >On m?n 10 maj 1999 19.56 +0000 "Chuck Rosenberg" wrote: >> 3.The Spacious Mind--The Cave Song > > Cool. Anyone know what this lot are up to anyway? I ordered >one of their CDs from Delerium back in February, but Delerium >never got any copies in from them, so I eventually had to replace >it with something else! Well, they put out the excellent LP-only 'Garden of a well-fed head' last year I think it was. On Lone Starfighter records in San Antonio, TX IIRC. I've heard it once though I don't own a copy. Cool sleeve design and white marbled vinyl. I think a CD version is planned sometime soon. Keith H. (FAA) From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Mon May 10 21:50:03 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:50:03 +1100 Subject: OFF: Pink Fairies, 'Pleasure Island' Message-ID: On 10 May 99, at 1:34, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > They give an e-mail address on 'No Picture too, but it appears to > be the one for the studio where it was recorded, and I'm not sure if this > has anything to do with the band or the label. But, for what it's worth, > it's . Hope this helps, yours, That looks like Paul Rudolph's address - I'm not sure if it's current tho. Twink was talking about getting an email account about 18mths ago, but I'm not sure if it's happened or not .... S. From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon May 10 23:03:47 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 03:03:47 GMT Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990510141237.00882950@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: >Troggs cover with way too many glossy strings would go nowhere. Oh well, >I've been wrong before. On the other hand, I found nothing compelling in >Sonic's most recent US tour (solo as "E.A.R.") ... I can twist knobs on >noise-making devices in my own studio anytime I want - if I'm gonna pay to >see someone do that, they better be damn good at it! definately as far as EAR goes, but there is much fine knob-twiddlin (ahem) on Spectrum's 'Forever Alien' - if you haven't heard it it's well worth tracking down. (And for all Who fans out there it's got a rather fine instro by the name of Derbyshire Delia) We're all here sitting in a rainbow, Gor Blimey! Hello Mrs Jones, how's your Bert's lumbago? - The Small Faces From sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI Tue May 11 02:25:32 1999 From: sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI (Santeri Laakso) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:25:32 +0300 Subject: OFF: Dark Sun ( was Re: OFF: Amorphis) In-Reply-To: <885216.3135336627@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: > Good to hear that the new album is on the way. Will the new > material which you played at J?nk?ping be on it? The tune of > "Iskariot" (I think that was the name) has been stuck in my head > since then! Yeah,we plan to include that to our next CD. We have 13 songs we are going to record, but a couple of these wont make it to the album. By the way, if everything goes well, Nik Turner will come to Finland this Summer to play and record with us... We'll play in Helsinki on the 3rd of July (at Tavastia club), would be nice time to visit Finland... Santtu From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Tue May 11 03:57:12 1999 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff and Pam Wheaton) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:57:12 -0600 Subject: Coupla topics Message-ID: I've a friend who's invited me to go with him to see SW, but , to be honest, I don't have to see it on the release date. I enjoy almost all SF, tho, whether visual , written or sung:) Pam "Hall, Russell J" wrote: > Did you catch the made for TV Dr. Who movie a couple of years back? > > > ---------- > > From: William Duffy[SMTP:xl5 at IINET.NET.AU] > > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > > Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 11:45 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > > Subject: Re: Coupla topics > > > > Hi there > > > > Having grown up in the UK on TV shows such as Doctor Who, Out Of The > > Unknown, the Gerry Anderson shows, Quatermass, etc., I wasn't too > > impressed > > when I first saw Star Trek, as I just didn't find it as intriguing as the > > British shows I had seen up 'til then (I was fairly lucky that my parents > > would let me stay up until 11pm long before I was 10). When the first Star > > Wars movie came out, I was one of the few I knew who didn't rush out to > > see > > it. I was partly put off by someone who had never seen Doctor Who that > > thought the Daleks were similar to R2D2 (cute robots!!).I was also not > > that > > interested as I liked my SF to be more character driven, and less special > > effects. I never saw it until it was out on video for about 2 years, and > > still don't know what the fuss was about. > > > > I did, in fact, go see The Empire Strikes Back at the cinema, and rather > > liked it. I saw it the same evening I went to see Black Sabbath, with Dio > > singing. It was after this that I got the video out. > > The 3rd one I also saw at the cinema one day when I was really bored, and > > could find nothing else to do. I should have gone home to sleep instead! > > > > > < > > just trying > > > to live a SW-free existence over the next few months. A quixotic > > gesture, > > > >> > > > > > > y'know, i didnt see any of the STAR WARS movies until i saw all three at > > > once, in '91...i concur with mr. gilham's desire for a SW-free > > > existence...and yet... > > > > > I know some people who talk about nothing but the new movie. I might go > > and > > see it with friends if they go, but I won't go out of my way to see it. > > I'd > > much rather see a movie with a good plot and acting, than a special > > effects > > laden visual bore. > > > > What would make my day is a Doctor Who movie. > > > > William > > From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Tue May 11 04:00:28 1999 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff and Pam Wheaton) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 02:00:28 -0600 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live Message-ID: I think SD is quite good. Not one of their better efforts, but pretty good. Definitely listenable! Pam From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Tue May 11 04:07:38 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:07:38 +0100 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 10 May 1999 19:10:18 BST." <000e01be9b10$5c65a5a0$6b2d63c3@default> Message-ID: > - Andy > > ObCD: Atari Teenage Riot - _60 Second Wipe Out_ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yer git! Saw this got 10/10 in the s/times review. Looking to maybe snag it at the weekend. Beat me to it! Tim From c.d.bates at SHU.AC.UK Tue May 11 05:31:24 1999 From: c.d.bates at SHU.AC.UK (chris bates) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:31:24 +0100 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: Andy Gilham's message of "Mon, 10 May 1999 20:01:17 +0100" Message-ID: Andy Gilham writes: > > P.S. Britney Spears and Shania Twain are the ones that are so ubiquitous > > right now that even I can't escape. Man oh man, is BS awful!! > > See? :) I really think there's something wrong with getting an anorexic > teenager to wear too much makeup and a school uniform two sizes too small, > and have her singing "hit me one more time". (But maybe I'm just a puritan > :) Nah, you're just not eleven. My youngest daughter who _is_ 11 cannot understand why my wife and I disapprove of Britney. We had a conversation like this: [me] I think it's wrong that she sings about being hit [youngest daughter] She's not [me] Well she keeps saying hit me one more time [yd] Yes but... it doesn't mean that [me] So what does it mean? [yd] Well errrm.... I don't know! [me] Might it be wrong then? [yd] No [me] It's all right to sing about domestic violence then? [yd] No, but it doesn't mean that! ad nauseum. Apparently if it's on the radio then kids think the lyrics are OK because they've been somehow approved by modern day intellectual giants like Zoe Ball. -- Chris Bates Lecturer School of Computing and Management Sciences Sheffield Hallam University c.d.bates at shu.ac.uk From c.d.bates at SHU.AC.UK Tue May 11 05:44:41 1999 From: c.d.bates at SHU.AC.UK (chris bates) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:44:41 +0100 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: Keith Henderson's message of "Mon, 10 May 1999 12:57:51 -0400" Message-ID: Keith Henderson writes: > I dunno, I'm having a hard time trying to determine my own response to this > album. I've only had it a short time (four listens so far) and am wondering > how I'm going to review it for the next issue of AI. Everyone here (on > boc-l) seems to hate it, and everyone on PT-Trans seems to love it (or keep > quiet). :) I have a mixed response. Let me dispute the truth of your statement about BOC-L. I, for one, rather like *Stupid Dream*. It may not be the best PT album but it is damn good all through and very, very good in places. I meant to post a comment about their live show. I saw them in Sheffield the other week with my wife. She's not really into prog per se, preferring trippy hippy stuff and indie, whilst I'm more into prog and metal. We _both_ really enjoyed live PT. The pub was heaving with a really mixed audience (the ageing proggers were outnumbered by indie-type students) and everyone seemed to enjoy it. Old and new material worked together live and the band are really hot. > I don't believe that it is necessarily 'pop' or 'commercial' or a 'sell-out' > whatever. Only Piano Lessons seems like a 'radio' song to me, because it's > so empty and thoughtless. :) (And I guess it *has* been played on the > radio over here. Bad news I say. Why would any band want to be 'known' for This must be my mistake. *Piano Lessons* is one of my favourite tracks on the album. As for radio play being a bad thing under any circumstances, I rather think _not_! Ask any pro or semi-pro musician if they'd prefer radio play or being ignored and they'll surely prefer the exposure. Imagine HW on the radio even for something risible like *Sputnik Stan*, surely a good thing? > So, yes, I think it was a bad move in a way, but only because it got away > from PT's strength - ie., crunchy riffs a la 'Signify' and energetic But there isn't an audience for that music. Or if there is such an audience the music never gets any exposure so that audience never gets to hear of it. Musicians need to make a living too! > drumming from Chris Maitland (who is woefully underused on SD). This is the first PT album where the band have created their own parts rather than reproducing what SW wrote. At least according to SW in *Classic Rock* magazine. -- Chris Bates Lecturer School of Computing and Management Sciences Sheffield Hallam University c.d.bates at shu.ac.uk From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue May 11 05:52:27 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:52:27 +0100 Subject: OFF: SPACE DOES NOT MIND Message-ID: On m?n 10 maj 1999 19.14 -0400 "Keith Henderson" wrote: > Well, they put out the excellent LP-only 'Garden of a well-fed head' last > year I think it was. On Lone Starfighter records in San Antonio, TX IIRC. > I've heard it once though I don't own a copy. Cool sleeve design and white > marbled vinyl. I think a CD version is planned sometime soon. Yeah, I heard that when Scott got the vinyl last year. I was holding out for the CD since I don't have an LP-player. I bought one of their CDs at J?nk?ping, but that was all that I had enough money for. _Organic Mind Solution_. It was quite good, and I'd figured on getting another one when I got a little money again--but I haven't been able to yet! _Garden of the Well-fed Head_ was cool as well. Worth getting I reckon. Again, they play a very loose kind of swirling chaos which is not my usual thing--but I was completely mesmerized by their live set. Had to get some of that music to listen to back home :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue May 11 05:02:37 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:02:37 +0100 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: <37379d74.3284614@smtp.freeserve.net> Message-ID: In article <37379d74.3284614 at smtp.freeserve.net>, andrew writes >definately as far as EAR goes, but there is much fine knob-twiddlin >(ahem) on Spectrum's 'Forever Alien' - if you haven't heard it it's >well worth tracking down. "OWLSLEY!!!! WHERE ARE YOU NOW!!!! > >We're all here sitting in a rainbow, >Gor Blimey! Hello Mrs Jones, how's your Bert's lumbago? "musn't grumble!" -- Jon From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 11 06:36:04 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:36:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: Pink Fairies, 'Pleasure Island' In-Reply-To: Miikka Wagner's message of Wed, 5 May 1999 18:57:44 +0300 Message-ID: Miikka Wagner writes: > Hi! > > Consider this album, is there vinyl too or is it only CD? and where I can > get this (vinyl)? Help, please. > sorry about the delay on this I've been trying to find somewhere that listed it. Having looked through all my mail order listings I discovered that GEMA had a copy on import for 11 pounds something. But having carefully looked out the info I've forgotten to bring it with me so will have to mail the tel/fax number later. Unless someone knows of a web page for the company. cheers jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue May 11 06:56:05 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:56:05 +0100 Subject: OFF: Dark Sun ( was Re: OFF: Amorphis) Message-ID: On tis 11 maj 1999 09.25 +0300 "Santeri Laakso" wrote: > We'll play in Helsinki on the 3rd of > July (at Tavastia club), would be nice time to visit Finland... I am embarrassed to say I have not yet visited Finland. July might be difficult because I am supposed to finish my PhD and go back to the States in June! Well, who knows. It will happen, eventually. I need to go to Sweden and Denmark to see the many psychedelic/spacerock/"stoner" bands there, also ... Too bad there was no audience at J?nk?ping! So many great bands there. Add the Danish bands like On Trial, and heavier acts like Spiritual Beggars and Misdemeanor, and for the more "pop" side Five Fifteen, and for the more "prog" side Norway's Tangle Edge--then there would be a real cross-section of top-notch Scandinavian psychedelia there! Hard to beat ... Cheers, Carl ObCD: Kingston Wall, _II_ ObRant: Ah, there is much cool music up North these days. I must figure out a way to get a job in Scandinavia and convince Tania it would be fun to live there. The major flaw in this plan is that I only speak bad Swedish, and my Finnish is limited to the words "olut", "kahvi", and "kiitos" ;) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI Tue May 11 08:25:46 1999 From: sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI (Santeri Laakso) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:25:46 +0300 Subject: Anyone selling off their Porcu stuff? Message-ID: Hi! Is there anyone so bored with Stupid Dream to trade/sell older Porcupine Tree records? I'm after Voyage 34 12", Spiral Circus and I.E.M vinyls, and a friend of mine is looking for Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape CD. Santtu From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 11 08:31:20 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:31:20 +0100 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: William Duffy's message of Tue, 11 May 1999 01:35:07 +0800 Message-ID: > Their movie was to feature updated Daleks, including Spider Daleks, which > looked like normal Daleks, then morphed into Spider-like versions. There's > photos of them on the Web somewhere. Sounds cool. The other good effect would have been levitating Daleks. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 11 08:34:26 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:34:26 +0100 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Mon, 10 May 1999 20:00:17 +0100 Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > Me, I'm a big SW fan (not as much as Tania) but pretty big. > I like space opera with heroes, lasers, and things that go whoosh. I'd have thought that the Doc's "Lensman" series was just about written for that kind of stuff. The Lens even pretty much substitutes for The Force. The other great film-to-be of Space Opera is of course Asimov's "Foundation" series, so long as they don't make as bad a fist of it as they did with "Nightfall". I've nothing against space opera, but Star Wars is just Sinbad The Sailor in Space. > Carl FoFP From tclark at PETRONET.NET Tue May 11 20:47:21 1999 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:47:21 -0500 Subject: OFF: SPACE DOES NOT CARE Play-list Message-ID: Great playlist...now if only KUCR can put their radio broadcasts on on-line!..... Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > "Space Does not Care", 5/8/99, 88.3 F.M. KUCR, 9-11 pm PST every other Sat. > > 1.Amon Duul II--Soap Shop Rock (the whole four-part suite) > 2.Melting Euphoria--Elixir of Light > 3.The Spacious Mind--The Cave Song > 4.F. Zappa--G-Spot Tornado (dedicated to Cisco the Chiquaqua) > 5.The Tea Party--Sister Awake > 6.Manilla Road--Open the Gates > 7.Hawkwind--The Wizard Blew His Horn/Opa-Loka > 8.The Orb--Valley > 9.Saddar Bazaar--Sukoon (dedicated to Marsie) > 10.Fripp/Eno--Evening Star > 11.Zero Gravity--Centrifuge > 12.Pressurehed--Bluff Creek, and Beyond > 13.Psychedelic Warriors--White Zone > 14.Levitation-Jay > 15.Atomic Rooster--Sleeping for Years > 16.Architectural Metaphor--Brainticket From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Tue May 11 08:52:34 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Gekke Henkie) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:52:34 +0200 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: <199905111234.NAA23718@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Op 11 May 99, om 13:34, M Holmes schreef: > > The other great film-to-be of Space Opera is of course Asimov's > "Foundation" series, so long as they don't make as bad a fist of it as > they did with "Nightfall". Foundation as a space opera in 7, 8 no 9 parts...or did I miss some...don't know > > I've nothing against space opera, but Star Wars is just Sinbad The > Sailor in Space. And it's great fun! Especially when you first watch Spaceballs, smoke a Joint and then watch Star Wars. You'll laugh your *ss *ff. --BArt From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Tue May 11 08:52:39 1999 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:52:39 +0200 Subject: Anyone selling off their Porcu stuff? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Is there anyone so bored with Stupid Dream to trade/sell older Porcupine >Tree records? > >I'm after Voyage 34 12", Spiral Circus and I.E.M vinyls, and a friend of >mine is looking for Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape CD. > >Santtu hey man i don't like their new cd but you ask for some of their best. stil want to keep those. andre From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Tue May 11 09:25:56 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:25:56 +0100 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 10 May 1999 20:01:17 BST." <001801be9b17$7b7d12a0$6b2d63c3@default> Message-ID: > _Urban Hymns_ was pretty much constantly at number one in the UK album > charts last summer. I got really bored with the sight of that bloke with > the big nose walking through Hoxton with a bad attitude. :) And apart from anything else, the video is a direct rip from Rollins' "Disconnect". On the other off: thread, mike notes > I've nothing against space opera, but Star Wars is just Sinbad The > Sailor in Space. Surely you mean _The Hidden Fortress_ in Space ? :-) Tim From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 11 09:58:02 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:58:02 +0100 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: Gekke Henkie's message of Tue, 11 May 1999 14:52:34 +0200 Message-ID: Gekke Henkie writes: > > The other great film-to-be of Space Opera is of course Asimov's > > "Foundation" series, so long as they don't make as bad a fist of it as > > they did with "Nightfall". > Foundation as a space opera in 7, 8 no 9 parts...or did I miss > some...don't know Well I'd stick to the Straight Hari Seldon stuff and keep the Robots out of it. It irritated me that suddenly every Asimov book had to be tied to the Robots. If he hadn't died they'd have started appearing in his texts on biochemistry. Come to think of it I'd probably skip the stuff with The Mule too... > > I've nothing against space opera, but Star Wars is just Sinbad The > > Sailor in Space. > And it's great fun! Especially when you first watch Spaceballs, > smoke a Joint and then watch Star Wars. You'll laugh your *ss *ff. I suspect I have a different sense of humour. Now Dark Star was funny... > --BArt FoFP From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Tue May 11 10:02:43 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 07:02:43 -0700 Subject: OFF: Coupla topics Message-ID: >Op 11 May 99, om 13:34, M Holmes schreef: >> I've nothing against space opera, but Star Wars is just Sinbad The >> Sailor in Space. >And it's great fun! Especially when you first watch Spaceballs, >smoke a Joint and then watch Star Wars. You'll laugh your *ss *ff. > >--BArt Have you heard that Mel Brooks is planning a prequel to Spaceballs? It's called "Spaceballs Episode One: FAO Schwartz" ;-);-);-) Sorry. Anyway, SW is more fantasy than sci-fi. And they're family movies. I was 8yrs old when Return of the Jedi came out, so I was pre-disposed to it. The reason I'm looking forward to seeing Ep.1 is because I'll be seeing it with my best friend Mike, who I saw all the originals with. We get to relive our childhood for a couple of hours. And like Carl said, "Lasers are cool." ;-) To bring this somewhat on topic- Why hasn't anyone made a decent sci-fi movie with a spacerock soundtrack? Brian From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Tue May 11 10:12:27 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Gekke Henkie) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:12:27 +0200 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: <199905111358.OAA25885@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Op 11 May 99, om 14:58, M Holmes schreef: > > I suspect I have a different sense of humour. Now Dark Star was funny... Dark Star is funny on it's own. SW an Space Balls have to be seen as a combo to be funny. --BArt From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue May 11 10:13:31 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:13:31 EDT Subject: OFF: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: Brian Halligan > The reason I'm looking forward to seeing Ep.1 is because I'll be seeing it > with my best friend Mike, who I saw all the originals with. We get to > relive our childhood for a couple of hours. Hate to break it to ya, Brian, but you're still IN your childhood! Enjoy it while ya can... granpa theo From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 11 10:33:14 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:33:14 +0100 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: M Holmes's message of Tue, 11 May 1999 14:58:02 +0100 Message-ID: M Holmes writes: > Gekke Henkie writes: > > > > The other great film-to-be of Space Opera is of course Asimov's > > > "Foundation" series, so long as they don't make as bad a fist of it as > > > they did with "Nightfall". > > > Foundation as a space opera in 7, 8 no 9 parts...or did I miss > > some...don't know > > Well I'd stick to the Straight Hari Seldon stuff and keep the Robots out > of it. It irritated me that suddenly every Asimov book had to be tied > to the Robots. If he hadn't died they'd have started appearing in his texts > on biochemistry. You know that Benford has written a prequel to this (and Greg Bear has done one too I think) leading up to the collapse of Trantor - and, yes, the robots feature prominently! I don't think you can write them out. > > Come to think of it I'd probably skip the stuff with The Mule too... Apparently just before Asimov died he re-read his Foundation trilogy and expressed absolute amazement that "nothing happened" in them. This is true - they are gorgeous (and I use this word in its 'richly coloured' 'amazing' sense) environments but contain very few events. I don't think the Foundation books themselves would make a good film but they'd be a good background for somebody's heroic adventures perhaps - a sort of butterfly-wing-flapping situation within the whole context of psychohistory - but then I'm not at all sure how you could realistically put the psychohistory concept over in a film either! jill Vague on-topic reference: I wonder if Ron Tree ever managed to sell his robot. Perhaps he could offer it as a prize at the SF convention. ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Tue May 11 10:45:32 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Gekke Henkie) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:45:32 +0200 Subject: OFF: Ron's Robot In-Reply-To: <199905111433.PAA13535@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Op 11 May 99, om 15:33, J Strobridge schreef: > > Vague on-topic reference: I wonder if Ron Tree ever managed to sell his > robot. Perhaps he could offer it as a prize at the SF convention. He hasn't. If you want to buy it check out: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/page7.htm --BArt From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Tue May 11 11:53:59 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 08:53:59 -0700 Subject: OFF: Coupla topics Message-ID: >> From: Brian Halligan >> The reason I'm looking forward to seeing Ep.1 is because I'll be seeing it >> with my best friend Mike, who I saw all the originals with. We get to >> relive our childhood for a couple of hours. > >Hate to break it to ya, Brian, but you're still IN your childhood! >Enjoy it while ya can... > >granpa theo Thanks gramps. Some days I just feel like I'm ready to cash in the Senior discount at Ponderosa, you know? ;-) BTW, I found out more about the Monster Magnet gig, only too late. They were supposed to play in Buffalo, but had to cancel. Gov't Mule is playing Styleen's next month though, and an outdoor gig in Rochester in July or August. Brian From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue May 11 13:12:05 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:12:05 EDT Subject: OFF: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: Brian Halligan > > BTW, I found out more about the Monster Magnet gig, only too late. They > were supposed to play in Buffalo, but had to cancel. Gov't Mule is playing > Styleen's next month though, and an outdoor gig in Rochester in July or > August. Also, Derek Trucks will be at the Dino a week from today. Hey, he's even younger than you, dude! And can he wail, or what? theo From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue May 11 13:16:46 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:16:46 +0100 Subject: Coupla topics Message-ID: On tis 11 maj 1999 13.34 +0100 "M Holmes" wrote: > I've nothing against space opera, but Star Wars is just Sinbad The > Sailor in Space. That's OK, I'm not bothered; Sinbad was cool ... :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Tue May 11 14:41:57 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:41:57 -0700 Subject: OFF: Coupla topics Message-ID: >Also, Derek Trucks will be at the Dino a week from today. Hey, he's >even younger than you, dude! And can he wail, or what? > >theo He only needs 5 strings to do it, too! Brian obSong> Soulshine From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Tue May 11 14:45:04 1999 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:45:04 +0200 Subject: Off: Dr Hasbeen / Bedouin /Dark Sun. Message-ID: Hi there! I?ve just uploaded pictures of Dr Hasbeen and Alan Davey?s Bedouin taken at The Victoria Inn in Derby 28/4 ?99. You can see them on: http://w1.601.telia.com/~u60104377/DrHasbeen.htm There are also new pictures of Dark Sun taken at the Swedish Spacerock-festival in August ?98. You can see them on: http://w1.601.telia.com/~u60104377/rock.htm "Is this the time gone before Is this the way ? No I'm not sure Can I stop is it too late Is this the place where I disintegrate" Hawkswede -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue May 11 15:49:44 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:49:44 +0100 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: <373d319b.21029344@smtp.freeserve.net> Message-ID: In message <373d319b.21029344 at smtp.freeserve.net>, andrew writes > Especially Spiritualized. Twice. Sonic Boom was the talented >one in Spacemen 3, he gets a collapsed lung, the other gets the music >media falling over themselves to ride his coattails. Jason and Pete were equally talented. Spectrum and Spiritualized are both great. You can't begrudge J's success, surely? -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue May 11 15:52:37 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:52:37 +0100 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: <373e33f9.21635387@smtp.freeserve.net> Message-ID: In message <373e33f9.21635387 at smtp.freeserve.net>, andrew writes >ObHWcurry: Madras of the Universe ? ? ObBeatlesCurry : Paperback Raitha ObSoft CellCurry : Sag Aloo, Wave Goodbye -- Jon From stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM Tue May 11 16:30:10 1999 From: stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:30:10 -0400 Subject: HW: Well Ozrics really - US Tour dates off Message-ID: Just in case anyone hadn't seen, the Ozric pages are showing that the Ozrics US tour has had to be postphoned. Grave apologies and requests to be patient while they reschedule. Just as I was convincing myself that a 5 hour drive was goign to be worth it.... Hate to be the bearer of bad tidings etc. etc. Steve L From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 11 16:44:14 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 21:44:14 +0100 Subject: OFF: Pink Fairies, 'Pleasure Island' In-Reply-To: Miikka Wagner's message of Wed, 5 May 1999 18:57:44 +0300 Message-ID: Finally: Pink Fairies: 'Pleasure Island' (no vinyl) GEMA RECORDS: PO Box 54, Reading, Berkshire, RG5 3SD Fax No. 01635 873019 email gema at gemarecs.demon.co.uk web http://www.demon.co.uk/gemarecords// Catalogue No. 81 CD price 13 pounds 95 pence + postage - (ouch!) That's as cheap as I can find it I fear. Sorry! This is a good mail order company though and I would thoroughly recommend them if anyone is searching for stuff. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Mon May 10 17:47:11 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:47:11 +0100 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: <373e33f9.21635387@smtp.freeserve.net> Message-ID: At 19:35 10/05/99 GMT, andrew wrote: > >ObHWcurry: Madras of the Universe ? ? >We're all here sitting in a rainbow, >Gor Blimey! Hello Mrs Jones, how's your Bert's lumbago? >- The Small Faces > Curries & The Small Faces: you could be mistaken for (the strangely quiet lately) Jon Browne ;-{)> ChrisW ObCD: "Hex" Bark Psychosis Free your mind & watch your ass! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Tue May 11 19:27:32 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 00:27:32 +0100 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 10:02 11/05/99 +0100, you wrote: >In article <37379d74.3284614 at smtp.freeserve.net>, andrew ATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK> writes >>definately as far as EAR goes, but there is much fine knob-twiddlin >>(ahem) on Spectrum's 'Forever Alien' - if you haven't heard it it's >>well worth tracking down. > >"OWLSLEY!!!! WHERE ARE YOU NOW!!!! > Probably leaving cylinders of nitrous in God's waiting room :) >> >>We're all here sitting in a rainbow, >>Gor Blimey! Hello Mrs Jones, how's your Bert's lumbago? > >"musn't grumble!" > >-- >Jon Thought you'd show up here eventually ;;)) ChrisW ObCD: The Tony Williams Lifetime - Emergency! From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue May 11 21:11:46 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 21:11:46 -0400 Subject: OFF: Gong lineup change (US tour) Message-ID: Hi Folks... Pierre Moerlen has dropped out from Gong's touring lineup "due to fatigue." :( New lineup will apparently be... DAEVID ALLEN * GILLI SMYTH * DIDIER MALHERBE * MIKE HOWLETT CHRIS TAYLOR (drums) * MARK HEWINS (guitar) What's weird is that I went and checked out the Planet Gong newsgroup, and saw this posting in French. I can't really read French, but this appears to confirm the situation with Moerlen, and furthermore appears to suggest he's currently been replaced by Keith Bailey, who is only known to me as a bass player (Here and Now, wasn't it?). But 'batterie' is 'drums,' so I guess he is also a drummer. Interesting. I guess Pip Pyle isn't available either. So who is Chris Taylor?? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Pierre Moerlen ?tait absent pour cause de maladie et c'est Keith Missile qui s'est occupp? de la batterie. Keith est excellent ? la basse, il l'est beaucoup moins ? la batterie! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Keith H. From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed May 12 01:22:10 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 01:22:10 EDT Subject: OFF: SPACE DOES NOT CARE Play-list Message-ID: In a message dated 99-05-11 08:50:38 EDT, tclark at PETRONET.NET writes: << Great playlist...now if only KUCR can put their radio broadcasts on on-line!..... >> ---There are plans to, at least so the GM tells me. If it happens ya'll'll be the first to know. Thanks, Chuck From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Wed May 12 06:02:23 1999 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:02:23 +0200 Subject: OFF: Gong lineup change (US tour) In-Reply-To: <199905120222.WAA26177@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: >Pierre Moerlen has dropped out from Gong's touring lineup "due to fatigue." :( > >New lineup will apparently be... > >DAEVID ALLEN * GILLI SMYTH * DIDIER MALHERBE * MIKE HOWLETT >CHRIS TAYLOR (drums) * MARK HEWINS (guitar) > >What's weird is that I went and checked out the Planet Gong newsgroup, and >saw this posting in French. I can't really read French, but this appears >to confirm the situation with Moerlen, and furthermore appears to suggest >he's currently been replaced by Keith Bailey, who is only known to me as a >bass player (Here and Now, wasn't it?). But 'batterie' is 'drums,' so I >guess he is also a drummer. Interesting. I guess Pip Pyle isn't available >either. So who is Chris Taylor?? >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Pierre Moerlen ?tait absent pour cause de maladie et c'est Keith Missile qui >s'est occupp? de la batterie. Keith est excellent ? la basse, il l'est >beaucoup moins ? la batterie! >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >Keith H. glad i did see them on their first gig of this tour in verviers. talked with pierre as i had never seen him perform live with gong. great drummer, very different from pip pyle. yes you did translate it quite well, only maladie means he's been ill. fatigue means something like tired, so that's not right. you should look forward to this tour as it's quite different, less spacey and more jazzy. i like that a lot !!!!!!!!! andre From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 12 06:49:04 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:49:04 GMT Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >> Especially Spiritualized. Twice. Sonic Boom was the talented >>one in Spacemen 3, he gets a collapsed lung, the other gets the music >>media falling over themselves to ride his coattails. > >Jason and Pete were equally talented. >Spectrum and Spiritualized are both great. >You can't begrudge J's success, surely? To be honest no, not really I just think that SB has got a bit of a raw deal: i've always preferred the stuff he wrote for S3 after they started squabbling or whatever and think that he has continued experimenting a little bit more. anyway; ObSabsCurry: Sabbath Balti Sabbath We're all here sitting in a rainbow, Gor Blimey! Hello Mrs Jones, how's your Bert's lumbago? - The Small Faces From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 12 06:50:28 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:50:28 GMT Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990512002732.00915120@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: >>>definately as far as EAR goes, but there is much fine knob-twiddlin >>>(ahem) on Spectrum's 'Forever Alien' - if you haven't heard it it's >>>well worth tracking down. >> >>"OWLSLEY!!!! WHERE ARE YOU NOW!!!! >> > >Probably leaving cylinders of nitrous in God's waiting room :) > > I particularly like the "CAN YOU HEAR ME?!!" bit 'cos it'd be a bloody miracle if he couldn't. We're all here sitting in a rainbow, Gor Blimey! Hello Mrs Jones, how's your Bert's lumbago? - The Small Faces From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 12 06:51:25 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:51:25 GMT Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990510224711.007ea100@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: >Curries & The Small Faces: you could be mistaken for (the strangely quiet >lately) Jon Browne ;-{)> Yike! :-) We're all here sitting in a rainbow, Gor Blimey! Hello Mrs Jones, how's your Bert's lumbago? - The Small Faces From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed May 12 10:19:11 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:19:11 +0100 Subject: Anyone selling off their Porcu stuff? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 11 May 1999, Santeri Laakso wrote: > I'm after Voyage 34 12", Spiral Circus and I.E.M vinyls, and a friend of > mine is looking for Yellow Hedgerow Dreamscape CD. Yeah, well, who isn't? :-/ Yours, Jon P.S. I believe some of these are actually available from Delerium as collectors' items - Ken keeps them in a cupboard and you have to ask specialy. But they are _expensive_... From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed May 12 10:20:09 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 15:20:09 +0100 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: <199905111231.NAA22815@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 11 May 1999, M Holmes wrote: > > Their movie was to feature updated Daleks, including Spider Daleks, which > > looked like normal Daleks, then morphed into Spider-like versions. There's > > photos of them on the Web somewhere. > > Sounds cool. The other good effect would have been levitating Daleks. Blimey - that would solve the famous problem they have with stairs! Then the universe really would be at their mercy! Yours, Jon From abrevard at SHL.COM Wed May 12 10:20:52 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 09:20:52 -0500 Subject: OFF:Yawn Message-ID: YAAAAAAWWWWWNNNNNNNNNN......(?) Fun for some but not much for others. Anybody got anything interesting on BOC? Are they still alive? RIP - Darrel Sweeet of Nazareth. L8er Ghost in the Ruins NP: Threshold - Wounded Land Gov't Mule - Live...With A Little Help From Our Friends Helloween - Better Than Raw From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed May 12 10:33:45 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:33:45 -0400 Subject: OFF: Levitating daleks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 12 May 1999, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: => On Tue, 11 May 1999, M Holmes wrote: => => > > Their movie was to feature updated Daleks, including Spider Daleks, which => > > looked like normal Daleks, then morphed into Spider-like versions. There's => > > photos of them on the Web somewhere. => > => > Sounds cool. The other good effect would have been levitating Daleks. => => Blimey - that would solve the famous problem they have with => stairs! Then the universe really would be at their mercy! Yours, Actually, I remember seeing "the famous problem they have with stairs" tackled head on in one of the later dalek episodes, and, yes, indeed, it was shown "levitating" up the stairs (via some kind of blue light underneath). Seemed like too much SFX for Dr. Who, though... :-) Cheers, Paul. NP: Deep Purple, _Made in Japan_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Wed May 12 11:15:39 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:15:39 -0400 Subject: BOC: the coming of MOFIBOCT&M Message-ID: just think, 6 days till it hits the shelves...For you who order online a lot, Ive seen it as low as 20 and some odd cents and as high as 23 or so on some other sights. I prefer to buy it in person, despite the exorbitant mark-up that retailers inflict on our lowly purchasing power. Im surprised that the BOC web site doesnt have a preview review or anything liek that of the remaster. Ah well... Vavona Burr by Bevis Frond is out now, too! Seen that as low as 11 on cdnow. Rock, purchase, and be merry, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Wed May 12 11:20:27 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:20:27 -0400 Subject: OFF: Levitating daleks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 10:33 AM 5/12/99 -0400, you wrote: > >Actually, I remember seeing "the famous problem they have with stairs" >tackled head on in one of the later dalek episodes, and, yes, indeed, it >was shown "levitating" up the stairs (via some kind of blue light >underneath). > >Seemed like too much SFX for Dr. Who, though... :-) Did they have levitating daleks in that anniversary show during the Sylvester McCoy run, where the skaro and the Davros daleks were duking it out in 60's london for.... what was it... the fist of Omega or somthing? Been too long since I've seen Dr. Who to remember precisely. Doctorin' the Tardis, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed May 12 11:02:52 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:02:52 -0400 Subject: OFF: retailer mark-up? In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990512111539.00691c28@mail1.wizvax.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 May 1999, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: => some other sights. I prefer to buy it in person, despite the exorbitant => mark-up that retailers inflict on our lowly purchasing power. Actually, it depends on yer retailer. When Gov't Mule's _Live... With a Little Help From Our Friends_ 2CD came out, loads of folks on the Mule list thought they'd be smart by "pre-ordering" from online CD retailers. Not only did many not receive the album by its release date (unlike those who strolled into their local shops), but also many paid a hefty price. Myself, I got it from the local shop that enjoys my regular patronage, for only $16 (most were reporting it as $20 and up on the list)... If you find a good local shop, stick with it. Cheers, Paul. NP: The Bevis Frond, _Inner Marshland_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Wed May 12 11:02:39 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:02:39 -0400 Subject: OFF: Levitating daleks Message-ID: Remembrance Of The Daleks: They were looking for the Hand of Omega, > > > >Actually, I remember seeing "the famous problem they have with stairs" > >tackled head on in one of the later dalek episodes, and, yes, indeed, it > >was shown "levitating" up the stairs (via some kind of blue light > >underneath). > > > >Seemed like too much SFX for Dr. Who, though... :-) > Did they have levitating daleks in that anniversary show during the > Sylvester McCoy run, where the skaro and the Davros daleks were duking it > out in 60's london for.... what was it... the fist of Omega or somthing? > Been too long since I've seen Dr. Who to remember precisely. > > Doctorin' the Tardis, > Jason > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." > -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed May 12 11:29:10 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:29:10 EDT Subject: OFF: retailer mark-up? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: Paul Mather > On Wed, 12 May 1999, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > > => some other sights. I prefer to buy it in person, despite the exorbitant > => mark-up that retailers inflict on our lowly purchasing power. > > Actually, it depends on yer retailer. When Gov't Mule's _Live... With a > Little Help From Our Friends_ 2CD came out, loads of folks on the Mule > list thought they'd be smart by "pre-ordering" from online CD retailers. > > Not only did many not receive the album by its release date (unlike > those who strolled into their local shops), but also many paid a hefty > price. Myself, I got it from the local shop that enjoys my regular > patronage, for only $16 (most were reporting it as $20 and up on the > list)... > > If you find a good local shop, stick with it. You are correct, sir! I bought the new Mule from an indie up here, and paid 18 bucks for it. Got it as soon as Paul mentioned it here on BOC-L. Speaking of new Mule, Derek Trucks will be here next Tues., if anyone feeld like checking out a monster show. Venue holds about a hundred people! Should be a killer... theo From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 12 12:24:21 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:24:21 GMT Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >> Sounds cool. The other good effect would have been levitating Daleks. > > Blimey - that would solve the famous problem they have with >stairs! Then the universe really would be at their mercy! Yours, > Jon Well, the Daleks are already equipped with this ability as seen in Remembrance of the Daleks. Not that it did them much good. I still miss Venusian Aikido or Hai! Karate as some of us prefer. And the Brigadier, "Jenkins ... chap with wings: five rounds rapid" andrew From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed May 12 12:26:30 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:26:30 -0400 Subject: OFF: Star Wars Message-ID: Wow - been a long time since *I* spawned such a long thread... ;-) My perspective on the new Star Wars movie is simple -- like KISS and BOC, Star Wars came into my life at age 13 -- a time in a boys life when I'm beginning to believe is a time which will forever shape (or WARP) his future existence (this doesn't necessarily seem to be the case for women - not my wife anyway - she laughs at me during these times...). Anyway, when I was growing up, Star Wars was IT - or, as they sometimes say these days, Star Wars was the shit (although that expression doesn't particularly appeal to me as calling something "the shit" hardly seems complimentary). Now, I wasn't a fanatic - I only saw it probably 5 times, and 2 or 3 times for both Empire and Jedi - of course that doesn't count video rentals - and the fact that when the "Special Editions" came out 2 years ago, I went to a theater complex and watched them back to back to back. I will be shortly trying to get myself a ticket for Episode 1 -- I'm psyched in a big way for this. Yeah, the overhype can be draining, and the marketing isn't something I buy into (I do have the soundtrack and storybooks - unread until I see the movie -- I really don't want to know the plot before I see it -- when "Jedi" came out, my local paper gave away the whole plot before I saw the film and I was really pissed), but all that doesn't matter to me. Bottom line is that this is going to be one kick-ass movie that *I* want to see, and I'm gonna see it -- and I'm gonna be excited about it. And if the rest of the world doesn't share that enthusiasm, that is cool -- to each his/her own - just don't anybody rain on my personal parade here... :-) John PS: I would hope that anyone who posts info here would refrain from giving away anything in the movie -- at a minimum, please post spoiler warnings prominently at the head of your post. -- John A. Swartz - The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA - jswartz at mitre.org "Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to Anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to SUFFERING." -- Yoda (Star Wars: Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace) From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed May 12 12:38:35 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:38:35 -0400 Subject: OFF: Star Wars In-Reply-To: <3739ABB2.16A24E4C@mitre.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 May 1999, John A. Swartz wrote: => all that doesn't matter to me. Bottom line is that this is going to be => one kick-ass movie that *I* want to see, and I'm gonna see it -- and I'm Make that "potentially kick-ass movie." You won't know until you see it. I mean, people were saying the _Godzilla_ movie was going to be "one kick-ass movie" before it was released (amid incredible pre-release hype), and that one ended up blowing chunks. Cheers, Paul. NP: Steve Hillage, _BBC Radio 1 Live in Concert_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed May 12 12:40:38 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:40:38 +0100 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: <373fa9fc.21074827@smtp.freeserve.net> Message-ID: > Well, the Daleks are already equipped with > this ability as seen in Remembrance of the Daleks. Not that it did > them much good. Yes, I recall Lee & Herring debunking that one on their BBC2 "Monster Night", after Ian Beale from Eastenders had voiced this common fallacy. - Andy ObCardigansCurry: Lovephal mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed May 12 13:10:47 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:10:47 +0100 Subject: OFF: Star Wars Message-ID: On ons 12 maj 1999 12.38 -0400 "Paul Mather" wrote: > On Wed, 12 May 1999, John A. Swartz wrote: > => all that doesn't matter to me. Bottom line is that this is going to be > => one kick-ass movie that *I* want to see, and I'm gonna see it -- and I'm > > Make that "potentially kick-ass movie." You won't know until you see > it. I mean, people were saying the _Godzilla_ movie was going to be > "one kick-ass movie" before it was released (amid incredible pre-release > hype), and that one ended up blowing chunks. Indeed. I doubt PhM will blow chunks (or, indeed, like wine ;) but some things in the trailers convinced me that mistakes had been made (particularly the lame-looking goofy CGI character). I fear a RotJ situation, which would have been a perfectly decent movie except for the Ewoks :/ People say ESB was the best, but I liked ANH for being zap-bang-pow pretty much all the way through :) Well, at least it's unlikely to be relentlessly mediocre like the recent Star Trek films have been. But hey, it's all about SPACE and SPACE does not care :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From mwood at MY-DEJANEWS.COM Wed May 12 14:32:07 1999 From: mwood at MY-DEJANEWS.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:32:07 -0700 Subject: OFF: Gov't Mule Message-ID: OK, I've been charged with the task of fulfilling my wife's Columbia House obligation. I've got to buy 2 CDs from their catalog. I combed through it pretty thoroughly, and found 3 CDs by Gov't Mule. They have the self-titled one, _Dose_, and _Live at the Roseland Ballroom_. (No sign of the 2-CD live one.) Which one should I start with? I'll probably pick one by GM and _Dopes to Infinity_ by Monster Magnet. MWood NP: _Spacefolds 5_ - quarkspace (So far, I like this much better than their _Live at Orion_ disk.) -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed May 12 14:47:27 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:47:27 -0400 Subject: OFF: Gov't Mule [and Quarkspace] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 12 May 1999, Marshall Wood wrote: => OK, I've been charged with the task of fulfilling my wife's => Columbia House obligation. I've got to buy 2 CDs from their => catalog. I combed through it pretty thoroughly, and found 3 CDs => by Gov't Mule. They have the self-titled one, _Dose_, and _Live => at the Roseland Ballroom_. (No sign of the 2-CD live one.) => Which one should I start with? I'll probably pick one by GM and => _Dopes to Infinity_ by Monster Magnet. My gut feeling is to go for _Live at the Roseland Ballroom_. There are some nice jams on there, especially the opening 16-minute jam on "Trane" from their debut album. If you're not a big fan of live albums, but instead prefer studio efforts, try _Dose_. (Having said that, Gov't Mule "studio" albums are pretty much "live in the studio" affairs, so it's a bit moot.) It is probably a little more complex than _Gov't Mule_, and more representative of their current sound. _Gov't Mule_ still rocks the walls, though. IMHO, you won't go wrong with whatever one you decide on. => NP: _Spacefolds 5_ - quarkspace (So far, I like this much better than their _Live at Orion_ disk.) I got a flyer from Eternity's Jest Records announcing their new CD. Are they any good? Apparently, I can get it free if I subscribe to Aural Innovations before the 15th May. Any quick suggestions/thoughts? Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed May 12 15:02:51 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:02:51 +0100 Subject: OFF: Gov't Mule [and Quarkspace] Message-ID: On ons 12 maj 1999 14.47 -0400 "Paul Mather" wrote: > On Wed, 12 May 1999, Marshall Wood wrote: > => I combed through it pretty thoroughly, and found 3 CDs > => by Gov't Mule. They have the self-titled one, _Dose_, and _Live > => at the Roseland Ballroom_. (No sign of the 2-CD live one.) > => Which one should I start with? > > My gut feeling is to go for _Live at the Roseland Ballroom_. There are > some nice jams on there, especially the opening 16-minute jam on "Trane" > from their debut album. I fully endorse Paul's opinion here :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Wed May 12 15:10:45 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:10:45 -0700 Subject: Gov't Mule Message-ID: As a newbie to Gov't Mule myself, I'd suggest _Dose_ to start with.. I fell in love with that CD the very first time I heard it. I have all the others except for _Live at the Roseland Ballroom_ and really, as far as I am concerned, you can't go wrong with any of them. These guys just plain kick ass... JB > -----Original Message----- > From: Marshall Wood [mailto:mwood at MY-DEJANEWS.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 11:32 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: OFF: Gov't Mule > > > OK, I've been charged with the task of fulfilling my wife's > Columbia House obligation. I've got to buy 2 CDs from their > catalog. I combed through it pretty thoroughly, and found 3 > CDs by Gov't Mule. They have the self-titled one, _Dose_, > and _Live at the Roseland Ballroom_. (No sign of the 2-CD > live one.) Which one should I start with? I'll probably > pick one by GM and _Dopes to Infinity_ by Monster Magnet. > > MWood > > NP: _Spacefolds 5_ - quarkspace (So far, I like this much > better than their _Live at Orion_ disk.) > > > > -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums > From lansford at MY-DEJANEWS.COM Wed May 12 16:36:13 1999 From: lansford at MY-DEJANEWS.COM (Jean Lansford) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:36:13 -0700 Subject: OFF: Star Wars Message-ID: On Wed, 12 May 1999, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > Indeed. I doubt PhM will blow chunks (or, indeed, like wine ;) >but some things in the trailers convinced me that mistakes had >been made (particularly the lame-looking goofy CGI character). I'm showing my age here, but the first thing I thought of when I saw Jar-Jar Binks was ... Snarf of Foglio's SnarfQuest. --- Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net (preferred) lansford at my-dejanews.com http://users.vnet.net/lansford/ -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed May 12 17:08:12 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:08:12 +0100 Subject: OFF: Star Wars Message-ID: On ons 12 maj 1999 13.36 -0700 "Jean Lansford" wrote: > On Wed, 12 May 1999, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> Indeed. I doubt PhM will blow chunks (or, indeed, like wine ;) >>but some things in the trailers convinced me that mistakes had >>been made (particularly the lame-looking goofy CGI character). > > I'm showing my age here, but the first thing I thought of when I saw Jar-Jar Binks was ... > Snarf of Foglio's SnarfQuest. Cor! You're not wrong there, either! -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Wed May 12 17:21:34 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:21:34 -0700 Subject: OFF: RE: Star Wars Message-ID: Thanks to all for the OFF stuff.. Me not being any sort of HW fan and with the current lack of all things BOC, I haven't had much to say on this list of late.. Starwars.. I saw it when it came out (I was 18) and was blown away by the special effects.. The movie itself was fun, in a campy sort of way.. I always thought of it as a western in space, bad guys in black hats and all... Harmless adventure fun.. The following two got progressively worse in all but the fx dept. with the final one being almost hilarious in its hackneyed, cliche`-ridden story line.. "Luke, I am your father!". Why couldn't they have just let ol' Darth be evil, even in the end.. He was such an archtypical villian, it spoiled it for me when he turned out to be just misguided... I'll go see this new one, once the crowds die down.. I just hope against hope that they got better writers.. It seems aimed at a pretty young audience though so I don't feel very confident. It will probably be worth going just for the "gee-wiz" factor.. Lucas can afford some hefty special effects bills, I'd imagine. JB > -----Original Message----- > From: John A. Swartz [mailto:jswartz at MITRE.ORG] > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 9:27 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: OFF: Star Wars > > > Wow - been a long time since *I* spawned such a long thread... ;-) > > My perspective on the new Star Wars movie is simple -- like KISS and > BOC, Star Wars came into my life at age 13 -- a time in a > boys life when > I'm beginning to believe is a time which will forever shape (or WARP) > his future existence (this doesn't necessarily seem to be the case for > women - not my wife anyway - she laughs at me during these times...). > Anyway, when I was growing up, Star Wars was IT - or, as they > sometimes > say these days, Star Wars was the shit (although that > expression doesn't > particularly appeal to me as calling something "the shit" hardly seems > complimentary). Now, I wasn't a fanatic - I only saw it probably 5 > times, and 2 or 3 times for both Empire and Jedi - of course that > doesn't count video rentals - and the fact that when the "Special > Editions" came out 2 years ago, I went to a theater complex > and watched > them back to back to back. > > I will be shortly trying to get myself a ticket for Episode 1 -- I'm > psyched in a big way for this. Yeah, the overhype can be > draining, and > the marketing isn't something I buy into (I do have the soundtrack and > storybooks - unread until I see the movie -- I really don't > want to know > the plot before I see it -- when "Jedi" came out, my local paper gave > away the whole plot before I saw the film and I was really > pissed), but > all that doesn't matter to me. Bottom line is that this is > going to be > one kick-ass movie that *I* want to see, and I'm gonna see it > -- and I'm > gonna be excited about it. And if the rest of the world doesn't share > that enthusiasm, that is cool -- to each his/her own - just don't > anybody rain on my personal parade here... :-) > > John > > PS: I would hope that anyone who posts info here would refrain from > giving away anything in the movie -- at a minimum, please post spoiler > warnings prominently at the head of your post. > > -- > John A. Swartz - The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA - jswartz at mitre.org > > "Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to Anger. > Anger leads > to Hate. > Hate leads to SUFFERING." -- Yoda (Star Wars: Episode 1 - > The Phantom Menace) > From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Thu May 13 08:10:47 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 08:10:47 -0400 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 12 May 1999 to 13 May 1999 Message-ID: > => all that doesn't matter to me. Bottom line is that this is going to be > => one kick-ass movie that *I* want to see, and I'm gonna see it -- and I'm > > Make that "potentially kick-ass movie." You won't know until you see > it. I mean, people were saying the _Godzilla_ movie was going to be > "one kick-ass movie" before it was released (amid incredible pre-release > hype), and that one ended up blowing chunks. No, I believe it will not be "potentially" - it will be kick-ass. I've seen the trailers, and heard the soundtrack -- and I think George Lucas and John Williams have a proven track record in this saga. In some ways, I liken this to the release of Heaven Forbid. The critics can say what they want, but to me, I knew it would be a kick-ass album, and to me, it was. As for the Godzilla movie, well, once I knew how much they had altered the design of the original beast (not to mention the fact that TOHO didn't produce it), I had no desire to see it. John (who has a ticket for opening day next week - YES!) From mwood at MY-DEJANEWS.COM Thu May 13 08:35:58 1999 From: mwood at MY-DEJANEWS.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 05:35:58 -0700 Subject: OFF: Quarkspace [and Gov't Mule] Message-ID: Thanks for the GM recs. I'll order _Roseland_, I think. Maybe _Dose_ as well. On Wed, 12 May 1999 14:47:27 Paul Mather wrote: >=> NP: _Spacefolds 5_ - quarkspace (So far, I like this much better than their _Live at Orion_ disk.) >I got a flyer from Eternity's Jest Records announcing their new CD. Are >they any good? Apparently, I can get it free if I subscribe to Aural >Innovations before the 15th May. Any quick suggestions/thoughts? I'm subscribed to AI, so that's how I got this CD. It's improvised, instrumental electronic space music with guitar. Tracks range from about 3 minutes to over 15. I like it a lot, but check em out for yourself - there are lots of quarkspace sound files at http://www.quarkspace.com. If you like it, consider subscribing to AI - it's a great read, and you'd be getting on board with their biggest issue yet. Interviews with several bands that get mentioned around here a lot (Dark Sun, Jukka of Kingston Wall, etc.) and a few bands you've never heard of, I'll bet. MWood NP: _Nordic Roots_ - NorthSide label sampler -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu May 13 08:43:51 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 08:43:51 -0400 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 12 May 1999 to 13 May 1999 In-Reply-To: <373AC0B3.59AF76CA@mitre.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 13 May 1999, John A. Swartz wrote: =>> Make that "potentially kick-ass movie." You won't know until you see =>> it. I mean, people were saying the _Godzilla_ movie was going to be =>> "one kick-ass movie" before it was released (amid incredible pre-release =>> hype), and that one ended up blowing chunks. => =>No, I believe it will not be "potentially" - it will be kick-ass. I've =>seen the trailers, and heard the soundtrack -- and I think George Lucas =>and John Williams have a proven track record in this saga. Well, I guess I can't argue with such devotion. But, those pesky trailers have a habit of showing movies through such awfully skewed, rose-tinted spectacles. Myself, I'll wait for all the hullabaloo to die down, and then see it and decide for myself. (I might even see it before it comes to the second-run theatre! Egads!!) In the meantime, go and see _Life is Beautiful_. It's one kick-ass movie!! Cheers, Paul. NP: Popa Chubby, Biskuithalle, Bonn, Germany, 4/13/98 e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Thu May 13 09:19:55 1999 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:19:55 +0100 Subject: HW: Pre-release of Bedouin Video Message-ID: OK folks - you'll see it here first! For those of you who have seen the Bedouin merchandise stall at the various Bedouin gigs, there will eventually be released an official video, that I recorded at the West One Four Club, London, last November. With permission from Alan, and Dave Roberts (merchandising man) I'm offering for sale 10 copies, and ONLY 10 copies of the video, in advance of it's official release, to cover my original filming costs etc. etc. !! The advantage of getting these from me, is that they will come from a Hi-8 master, one generation better than the band's release. I can offer the following tape formats, all in PAL signal-format, with the official cover, including postage: VHS: ?10 (UK) ?11 (Europe) ?12 (Rest of the World) 8mm stereo: ?11 (UK) ?12 (Europe) ?13 (Rest of the World) Hi-8 stereo: ?12.50 (UK) ?13.50 (Europe) ?14.50 (Rest of the World) In my opinion, the 8mm offers better visual quality than VHS, and I use data-archive-quality tapes, which are far more stable and robust than regular 8mm tapes. The extra visual quality of the Hi-8 is probably worth it, if you can play back Hi-8 tapes. Unfortunately, I cannot do S-VHS copies, as I do not have an S-VHS deck! E-mail me for more details at: guy.thomas at london.entoil.com So there you have it. First come, first served. Once I've done 10 copies, you'll have to wait for the release from the band, and you won't get the chance for 8mm/Hi-8 Hi-Fi stereo copies. Guy T. From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu May 13 09:42:10 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 14:42:10 +0100 Subject: OFF: Quarkspace [and Gov't Mule] Message-ID: On tor 13 maj 1999 05.35 -0700 "Marshall Wood" wrote: > NP: _Nordic Roots_ - NorthSide label sampler Another fine choice. I have a good bunch of albums from Garmarna, Hedningarna, and Hoven Droven--and look forward to checking out more of them! -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu May 13 05:25:04 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:25:04 +0100 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: <000901be9c96$2abfe880$723f63c3@default> Message-ID: In article <000901be9c96$2abfe880$723f63c3 at default>, Andy Gilham writes >ObCardigansCurry: Lovephal Didn't Tony Newley do "What kind of Phal Am I?" Had a "Madras Of The Universe" last night, as it goes. Now the wind of time is blowing through me. ObZappaCurry : Sheikh Chapati ObCliffRichardCurry....wait for it ........ Living Dahl -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu May 13 05:31:02 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 10:31:02 +0100 Subject: OFF: Gong lineup change (US tour) In-Reply-To: <199905120222.WAA26177@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: In article <199905120222.WAA26177 at mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu>, Keith Henderson writes >Pierre Moerlen ?tait absent pour cause de maladie et c'est Keith Missile qui >s'est occupp? de la batterie. Keith est excellent ? la basse, il l'est >beaucoup moins ? la batterie! ah, mon bon ami Kieth da Missle Bass, qui donne moi un paire du salad spoons avec un grande elephante on them, pour mon cadueax de marriage. Never seen him play the batterie though. -- Jon From micci at SCI.FI Thu May 13 09:56:52 1999 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:56:52 +0300 Subject: OFF: Pink Fairies, 'Pleasure Island' Message-ID: Hi! Thanks Jill. Problem is that I want vinyl, but is there vinyl available at all? >Finally: > >Pink Fairies: 'Pleasure Island' (no vinyl) > >GEMA RECORDS: PO Box 54, Reading, Berkshire, RG5 3SD >Fax No. 01635 873019 >email gema at gemarecs.demon.co.uk >web http://www.demon.co.uk/gemarecords// > >Catalogue No. 81 CD price 13 pounds 95 pence + postage - (ouch!) > >That's as cheap as I can find it I fear. Sorry! This is a good mail >order company though and I would thoroughly recommend them if anyone is >searching for stuff. > >jill > >=========================================================================== >J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk > ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu May 13 10:14:29 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:14:29 +0100 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jon came forth with > Didn't Tony Newley do "What kind of Phal Am I?" > > Had a "Madras Of The Universe" last night, as it goes. > > Now the wind of time is blowing through me. ObBeatlesCurry: Tikka to ride ObAquaCurry: I'm a bhaji girl mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu May 13 10:14:30 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:14:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: Gong lineup change (US tour) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Never seen him play the batterie though. > -- > Jon > Meme pas a l'anatomie humaine? - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Thu May 13 10:37:00 1999 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:37:00 +0100 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: <000901be9d4a$ea0fd740$543f63c3@default> Message-ID: At 15:14 13/05/99 +0100, Andy Gilham wrote: >Jon came forth with > >> Didn't Tony Newley do "What kind of Phal Am I?" >> >> Had a "Madras Of The Universe" last night, as it goes. >> >> Now the wind of time is blowing through me. > >ObBeatlesCurry: Tikka to ride >ObAquaCurry: I'm a bhaji girl Wild Willy Barrett, on his wonderful "Organic Bondage" album, had a track called "Tales from the Raj" that started: "Wasting time at chapati, (pronounced "at ya pahty") Making small talk to any bhaji, ..." The first 50 or so of these albums came in a hand-made wooden sleeve! Dave. Languages Group Manager. Harlequin Ltd., Lismore House, 127 George St, Edinburgh, EH2 4JN, UK. Tel: +44 131 240 6106. From abrevard at SHL.COM Thu May 13 10:47:33 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 07:47:33 -0700 Subject: OFF: Gov't Mule Message-ID: My gut feeling is to go for _Live at the Roseland Ballroom_. There are > some nice jams on there, especially the opening 16-minute jam on "Trane" > from their debut album. > I fully endorse Paul's opinion here :) I second the motion. Paul has never been wrong on GM. BTW got my copy of Live/Friends for $17.99 CDNow. Had a $10 buck coupon for purchased over $20. Got the Mule and a Brand X Comp. Boy was my mailbox happy three days later. The Mule will be in town at the 9:30 Club. Sucks I'd prefer Jaxx out in the burbs to desolate downtown scene. Oh well... L8er Ghost in the Ruins NP: Saigon Kick - Devil in the Details OB Help - Any of the European listers heard SK's - Bastards? What about Jason Bieler's new band Super Trans Atlantic? From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu May 13 10:48:48 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 15:48:48 +0100 Subject: Coupla topics In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990513153700.0092cec0@mailhost.ed.harlequin.co.uk> Message-ID: We've all missed the most obvious Hawkwind curry of the lot: Curry on Sundown! Surely that must end this thread :) - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From mwood at MY-DEJANEWS.COM Thu May 13 11:18:03 1999 From: mwood at MY-DEJANEWS.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 08:18:03 -0700 Subject: OFF: Northside Message-ID: On Thu, 13 May 1999 14:42:10 Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >On tor 13 maj 1999 05.35 -0700 "Marshall Wood" >wrote: >> NP: _Nordic Roots_ - NorthSide label sampler > Another fine choice. I have a good bunch of albums from >Garmarna, Hedningarna, and Hoven Droven--and look forward to >checking out more of them! Yep, this is pretty cool. Modern Scandavian folk music. The 3 bands you mentioned are my favorites from this CD, along with the Den Fule cut - where should I start? I'd highly recommend this sampler to anyone remotely interested in the genre - even if it was a full-priced release, which it isn't. It has a sticker on the front that says "Cheaper than Food" - costs less than US$3, it's over 77 minutes long, and I've seen it in many stores. MWood NP: Renaissance: _King Biscuit Flower Hour, Part 2_ -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu May 13 11:50:15 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 16:50:15 +0100 Subject: OFF: Pink Fairies, 'Pleasure Island' In-Reply-To: Miikka Wagner's message of Thu, 13 May 1999 16:56:52 +0300 Message-ID: Miikka Wagner writes: > Hi! > > Thanks Jill. Problem is that I want vinyl, but is there vinyl available at all? None at all that I know of. I very much doubt that any vinyl was pressed because of the extra expense. CD only I would guess. cheers jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu May 13 12:08:19 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:08:19 +0800 Subject: Levitating daleks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Actually, I remember seeing "the famous problem they have with stairs" > tackled head on in one of the later dalek episodes, and, yes, indeed, it > was shown "levitating" up the stairs (via some kind of blue light > underneath). > The story you refer to is Remembrance Of The Daleks, though one was also seen hovering in a previous story Revelation Of The Daleks. William From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu May 13 12:51:59 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:51:59 +0800 Subject: OFF: Spider Dalek In-Reply-To: <000301be9d5a$d1800c80$53433bcb@xl5> Message-ID: Hi there On this Web Page you will find a downloadable AVI file of the Spider Dalek that was to have appeared in the Doctor Who Movie. http://www.nitrate.demon.co.uk/download.htm William From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Thu May 13 13:18:48 1999 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:18:48 +0200 Subject: OFF: Pink Fairies, 'Pleasure Island' In-Reply-To: <199905131550.QAA00275@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >> Thanks Jill. Problem is that I want vinyl, but is there vinyl available at >all? > >None at all that I know of. I very much doubt that any vinyl was >pressed because of the extra expense. CD only I would guess. > well i got here the twink records catalogue in front of me. and it says pleasure island is both available on cd and vinyl. all prices are in uk pounds; cd 13,99 and LP 9,99 order directly via a cheque from twink records - 17 gladstone road - colchester CO1 2EA postage in europe is for lp's: 3 uk pounds each. or just phone them and ask for lori pompan. she's twink's manager. tel. 011206 790989 fax 01206 790979. and do it !!!!!!!!!!!! andre From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu May 13 13:36:49 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:36:49 EDT Subject: FAQ-man In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990513191327.009461c0@pop.casema.net> Message-ID: John, I just got in a book entitled 'Stephen King--From A to Z,' and it has a reference to BOC. it says that there's a promo-only cassette of Astronomy with a 42-second intro by SK. Is this FAQ-worthy? Even though this book features a heading for BOC, there is, curiously, no mention of DFtR! theo From StevenTice at AOL.COM Thu May 13 13:51:23 1999 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:51:23 EDT Subject: FAQ-man Message-ID: In a message dated 5/13/99 1:37:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes: << I just got in a book entitled 'Stephen King--From A to Z,' and it has a reference to BOC. it says that there's a promo-only cassette of Astronomy with a 42-second intro by SK. >> I saw that at a record show circa 1989...too expensive for me, so I didn't pick it up... SET From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu May 13 15:31:59 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 20:31:59 +0100 Subject: OFF: Northside Message-ID: On tor 13 maj 1999 08.18 -0700 "Marshall Wood" wrote: > On Thu, 13 May 1999 14:42:10 Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >>Garmarna, Hedningarna, and Hoven Droven--and look forward to >>checking out more of them! > > Yep, this is pretty cool. Modern Scandavian folk music. The > 3 bands you mentioned are my favorites from this CD, along with > the Den Fule cut - where should I start? It's not really possible to go wrong with either of Hoven Droven's two albums: _Hia Hia_ and _Grov_. It's not really possible to go wrong with any of Garmarna's or Hedningarna's albums either. I'd recommend Hedningarna's _Tr?_ CD, and then _Kaksi!_. The new one _Karelia Visa_ has gotten excellent reviews, but I've yet to hear it. With Garmarna ... tough choice between _Guds spelem?n_ or the new _Vederg?llningen_. Both excellent. _Vitrad_ is quite good as well, if a little less adventurous. Cheers, Carl ObCD: Amorphis, _Tuonela_ -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Thu May 13 16:06:08 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:06:08 -0700 Subject: OFF: Tape swap 1999 Message-ID: Hi Andy, My tape is ready to go. And for the record, I like the idea of having everyone send their tapes to another country.... Brian -------------- Brian Halligan 994 Garson Ave. Rochester, NY USA 14609 bthalligan at earthlink.net -------------- From peter at FAIRFIELD.KAROO.CO.UK Thu May 13 16:17:37 1999 From: peter at FAIRFIELD.KAROO.CO.UK (Peter Greendale) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:17:37 +0100 Subject: FAQ-man Message-ID: Ted Jackson jr. s2h2 wrote: > John, > I just got in a book entitled 'Stephen King--From A to Z,' > and it has a reference to BOC. it says that there's a promo-only > cassette of Astronomy with a 42-second intro by SK. Is this > FAQ-worthy? Even though this book features a heading for > BOC, there is, curiously, no mention of DFtR! > > theo There certainly exists a 12" single of 'Astronomy' with a spoken intro by SK. Also on this disc is 'Astronomy' (Wild Mix) and the wonderful 'Magna Of Illusion'. The version of 'Astronomy' with the SK intro. is actually titled (Wild King Mix). The remix was by Francoise Kervorkian. Peter Greendale England From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu May 13 16:33:57 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 21:33:57 +0100 Subject: FAQ-man Message-ID: There is an "Astronomy" CDS with the Stephen King intro version also. But I think John knows about that ... :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Thu May 13 16:42:51 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 13:42:51 -0700 Subject: OFF: Tape swap 1999 Message-ID: Obviously that last message was meant for Andy, not the entire list. Doh! Brian From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed May 12 19:16:39 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 00:16:39 +0100 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990512002732.00915120@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: In message <3.0.5.32.19990512002732.00915120 at mail.clara.net>, Chris Warburton writes > >Probably leaving cylinders of nitrous in God's waiting room :) hee! -- Jon posting drunk & naked From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed May 12 19:15:53 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 00:15:53 +0100 Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990510224711.007ea100@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: In message <3.0.5.32.19990510224711.007ea100 at mail.clara.net>, Chris Warburton writes >Curries & The Small Faces: you could be mistaken for (the strangely quiet >lately) Jon Browne ;-{)> Star Wars, mate. Don't ask. -- Jon From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu May 13 20:47:52 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:47:52 GMT Subject: Off: PORCUPINE TREE Live In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 13 May 1999 00:16:39 +0100, Jon Browne paused from their hectic world to type this: >Jon >posting drunk & naked scarily the last email i read before this one contained the following. Truth will out mate! <===========================================================> Ex-marine is PA town's 'naked bandit' ============================================================= ALLENTOWN, Pennsylvania (Reuters) - A 41-year-old Allentown man known to police as "The Naked Bandit" pleaded guilty to robbing a string of convenience stores while in the nude, authorities said on Thursday. Ex-Marine Stanley Heiserman once stole $400 from a roadside mini-market while naked, save for the underwear on his head. Days later, two cashiers handed over the money before bursting into laughter as he left. "IT'S NuTS," SaiD THe DA http://customnews.cnn.com/cnews/pna.show_story?p_art_id=3720541 From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri May 14 00:56:40 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 00:56:40 EDT Subject: BRING ME THE HEAD OF JAR-JAR BINKS Message-ID: In a message dated 5/12/99 5:07:24 PM, cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK writes: <<> > I'm showing my age here, but the first thing I thought of when I saw Jar-Jar Binks was ... > Snarf of Foglio's SnarfQuest. >> um, okay, i can enjoy characters w/names like revolutionary girl utena and mysterious thief st. tail so okay, these names too. yep. ubetcha. glad i didnt consume literally thousands of comics books for nothin' "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri May 14 01:01:14 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:01:14 EDT Subject: Coupla topics Message-ID: In a message dated 5/13/99 9:55:02 AM, jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK writes: << Had a "Madras Of The Universe" last night, as it goes. Now the wind of time is blowing through me. >> arigato! got a gen-yoo-wine LOL outta that one. "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri May 14 01:04:22 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:04:22 EDT Subject: Coupla topics Message-ID: In a message dated 5/13/99 10:49:56 AM, Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: <> well if it does, we'll all be the poori for it. "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri May 14 01:11:06 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:11:06 EDT Subject: OFF: Tape swap 1999 Message-ID: In a message dated 5/13/99 4:06:24 PM, bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET writes: << My tape is ready to go. And for the record, I like the idea of having everyone send their tapes to another country.... >> y yo tambien to the above. gimme someone to send to, por favor. "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri May 14 01:13:44 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 01:13:44 EDT Subject: OFF: Tape swap 1999 Message-ID: In a message dated 5/13/99 4:43:09 PM, bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET writes: <> and there i went replying to everyone. is that bad? "<>" From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 14 05:59:32 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:59:32 +0100 Subject: OFF: Hoven Droven In-Reply-To: <199905140901.FAA19165@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: > Another fine choice. I have a good bunch of albums from >Garmarna, Hedningarna, and Hoven Droven--and look forward to >checking out more of them! > >-- >Carl Edlund Anderson Is the HD stuff available in the UK ? I have a copy of Grov on CD but would like to replace my very bad quality copy of Hia-Hia on a crappy ferric tape !!! For the record I think HH is the better of the two releases and concur with later comments that it's well worth a listen. Cheers, Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.demon.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri May 14 07:34:23 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 07:34:23 EDT Subject: OFF: Tape swap 1999 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: Brian Halligan > Hi Andy, > > My tape is ready to go. And for the record, I like the idea of having > everyone send their tapes to another country.... > > Brian Brian, You coming into town for Derek Trucks? I hear it's a free show! theo From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Fri May 14 09:21:43 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:21:43 -0400 Subject: FAQ-man Message-ID: > John, > I just got in a book entitled 'Stephen King--From A to Z,' > and it has a reference to BOC. it says that there's a promo-only > cassette of Astronomy with a 42-second intro by SK. Is this > FAQ-worthy? Even though this book features a heading for > BOC, there is, curiously, no mention of DFtR! Well, don't know if the mention in this book is particularly FAQ-worthy. Information about the Astronomy single, with intro by SK is certainly worthy of the FAQ though - however this is already in the FAQ. Curious that this book wouldn't mention DFtR though, since it was used in the TV adaptation of "The Stand", along with (incorrect) lyrics in the book. Further, "Tattoo Vampire" is mentioned in the Straub/King book, "The Talisman". John -- John A. Swartz - The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA - jswartz at mitre.org "Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to Anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to SUFFERING." -- Yoda (Star Wars: Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace) From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 14 05:01:07 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:01:07 +0100 Subject: OFF: Gong lineup change (US tour) In-Reply-To: <000a01be9d4a$eb0274a0$543f63c3@default> Message-ID: In article <000a01be9d4a$eb0274a0$543f63c3 at default>, Andy Gilham writes > >Meme pas a l'anatomie humaine? Assualte et batterie, sur l'anatomie humaine? Mal. -- Jon From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri May 14 10:26:32 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:26:32 +0100 Subject: OFF: Gong lineup change (US tour) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Assualte et batterie, sur l'anatomie humaine? "On top of the human anatomy"? Said in a John Cleese accent ? la "The people called Romanes, they go the 'ouse?" - Andy ObCD: Godspeed You Black Emperor! - _Slow Riot For New Zero Kanada_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri May 14 10:52:09 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:52:09 GMT Subject: OFF: Gong lineup change (US tour) In-Reply-To: <000001be9e15$c3dd13a0$423f63c3@default> Message-ID: >"On top of the human anatomy"? Said in a John Cleese accent ? la "The >people called Romanes, they go the 'ouse?" > Non, the people called Romanes, they go "une-deux-trois-quatre!" andrew From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri May 14 10:54:50 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:54:50 +0100 Subject: OFF: Gong lineup change (US tour) In-Reply-To: <000001be9e15$c3dd13a0$423f63c3@default> Message-ID: On Fri, 14 May 1999, Andy Gilham wrote: > > Assualte et batterie, sur l'anatomie humaine? > > "On top of the human anatomy"? Said in a John Cleese accent ? la "The > people called Romanes, they go the 'ouse?" Motion towards! Motion towards! Now, a hundred times before sunrise, or... (and so forth) Andy - while you're there, do you know where the Camden Underworld is, and are you likely to be there tonight for Orange Goblin/The Dawn/Hangnail? If so I should bring twenty extra quids... Yours, Jon From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri May 14 10:12:20 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:12:20 -0400 Subject: OFF: Fish tour (early warning) Message-ID: Hi Folks... Well, the new album may be kinda lame, but he shouldn't be missed regardless. Keith H. (FAA) Fish - Raingods With Zippos Tour 99 Date City Venue 6-30 Toronto, Lee's Palace - (TBC) 7-2 Trois-Riviere, Quebec , Le Maquistart 7-3 Chicoutimi, Quebec - (TBC) 7-4 Montreal Cabaret 7-6 Quebec City, Albert Rousseau Theatre 7-7 Sherbrooke, Canada, Cafe Du Palais 7-9 Edmonston, NB, O'Costigans 7-10 Halifax, Nova Scotia, The Marquee 7-12 New Haven, CT Toad's Place 7-13 Philadelphia, PA TLA 7-14 Boston, MA The Paradise 7-16 Poughkeepsie, NY The Chance 7-17 New York, NY Irving Plaza (TBC) 7-18 Washington DC Nightclub 9:30 7-20 St Petersburg, FL The State Theater 7-21 Atlanta, GA Variety Playhouse 7-23 Cleveland, OH Odeon 7-24 Pittsburgh, PA Graffiti 7-25 Buffalo, NY The Tralf 7-27 Cincinati, OH Annie's 7-28 Pontiac, MI 7th House 7-30 Chicago, IL Park West (TBC) 7-31 Milwaukee, WI Shank Hall 8-1 Minneapolis, MN Fine Line 8-3 Denver, CO The Bluebird 8-4 Salt Lake City, UT (TBC) 8-6 San Diego, CA Brick by Brick (TBC) 8-8 Los Angeles,CA House of Blues 8-9 San Francisco, CA Slim's 8-11 Portland, OR (TBC) 8-12 Seattle, WA (TBC) 8-14 Mexico City, Metropolitan Theatre 8-15 Guadalajara, Hard Rock Live From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri May 14 11:28:04 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:28:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: Gong lineup change (US tour) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 10:01 14/05/99 +0100, you wrote: >In article <000a01be9d4a$eb0274a0$543f63c3 at default>, Andy Gilham > writes >> >>Meme pas a l'anatomie humaine? > >Assualte et batterie, sur l'anatomie humaine? > >Mal. > >-- >Jon I think l'anatomie humaine is quite tasty, especially a salt hand... (A curry-free) ChrisW ObCD: Rhys Chatham - hard edge From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri May 14 11:41:22 1999 From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:41:22 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Sound Files Message-ID: Good Afternoon I've had a few people asking me where they can find Hawkwind Sound files on the Internet. I guess they mean MP3 files and such, but being a complete novice on this i may well be wrong. Does anyone know anywhere, where they can hear Hawkwind online? Also, those interested on the Buxton BADAM 99 Festival, where Hawkwind, Bedouin, Arthur Brown, Spacehead and Daevid Allen are playing, there's now a website link and advert at the following URL: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/whats_new.html All the best Age Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri May 14 10:48:56 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:48:56 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Sound Files Message-ID: Age asked... >Good Afternoon >I've had a few people asking me where they can find Hawkwind Sound files on >the Internet. >I guess they mean MP3 files and such, but being a complete novice on this i >may well be wrong. Me too...my computer doesn't play music. >Does anyone know anywhere, where they can hear Hawkwind online? But I know about these... http://members.aol.com/losafa/Sounds.htm http://www.tafcommedia.net/music.htm (Radio Free Kansas) The latter I can't even access now it seems, as I don't have the proper plug-in or whatever. But I imagine there are shows with Hawkwind to be found there. And there's that PunkCast thing...but I don't have any idea what that is. Keith H. (FAA) P.S. These two are items you can link to from the 'Space Rock Source Map' on the Aural Innovations site...http://www.infinet.com/~jkranitz/space/space.html From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Fri May 14 12:07:31 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:07:31 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Sound Files Message-ID: > >And there's that PunkCast thing...but I don't have any idea what that is. I do not remember the URL, but Punkcast has at least one or two COMPLETE shows in RA format. RJ From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri May 14 12:21:19 1999 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:21:19 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Sound Files Message-ID: Here's the URL for the PUNKCAST http://punkcast.com/2/ Sprawl wrote: > > > > >And there's that PunkCast thing...but I don't have any idea what that is. > > I do not remember the URL, but Punkcast has at least one or two COMPLETE > shows in RA format. > RJ From Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU Fri May 14 12:36:33 1999 From: Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU (Doug Bates) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:36:33 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Sound Files Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: multipart/alternative Size: 2230 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri May 14 12:33:42 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:33:42 +0100 Subject: OFF: Gong lineup change (US tour) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Camden Underworld is right next door to Camden Town tube - turn left at the top of the escalator and it's under the World's End (hence the name). Would go but I'm totally cream-crackered after moving house and I need me kip!!!! - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Jonathan Jarrett > Sent: 14 May 1999 15:55 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: OFF: Gong lineup change (US tour) > > > On Fri, 14 May 1999, Andy Gilham wrote: > > > > Assualte et batterie, sur l'anatomie humaine? > > > > "On top of the human anatomy"? Said in a John Cleese accent ? la "The > > people called Romanes, they go the 'ouse?" > > Motion towards! Motion towards! Now, a hundred times before > sunrise, or... (and so forth) > > Andy - while you're there, do you know where the Camden Underworld > is, and are you likely to be there tonight for Orange Goblin/The > Dawn/Hangnail? If so I should bring twenty extra quids... Yours, > Jon > From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri May 14 13:01:00 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 13:01:00 EDT Subject: Hawkwind Sound Files Message-ID: In a message dated 5/14/99 12:00:52 PM, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: <<>Good Afternoon >I've had a few people asking me where they can find Hawkwind Sound files on >the Internet. >I guess they mean MP3 files and such, but being a complete novice on this i >may well be wrong. Me too...my computer doesn't play music. === with the right device yr. comp would indeed play music! (yeah, you know this) for the scylding/das ludicroix mp3's, i downloaded something called "macAMP" and they sound just peachy; i didnt wanna use my basic realplayer 'coz i figured they wouldnt sound as good, though i believe it woulda played 'em >>> since the macAMP is for macs (surprise) and you might want something better-sounding than yr basic realplayer (w/o paying 30 bucks for realplayer g2 beta) i'd suggest downloading an AUDIOACTIVE player, which is free and sounds pissa. >Does anyone know anywhere, where they can hear Hawkwind online? === months ago sonique or someone referred to something called outlaw tv; this was very early in my cyberdays/daze, but one seemed to have access to an entire hawkwind show via a referral from that site! it came in two parts and i didnt have the patience to download it (it was a big'un) But I know about these... http://members.aol.com/losafa/Sounds.htm http://www.tafcommedia.net/music.htm (Radio Free Kansas) ===here are a few mp3 search sources: lycos mp3 search == http://www.mp3search.lycos.com mp3 web == http://www.mp3web.com scour.net == http://www.scour.net <> == i dont get how you had access to it and then you didnt, unless they're no longer bitcasting...all radio-related stuff for me goes through the realplayer... happy hunting! "<>" From drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM Fri May 14 15:10:19 1999 From: drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM (Torgo Sedler) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:10:19 PDT Subject: tBS: Cagey Cretins and other stuff Message-ID: Hi kids. Me again...... I was frooging to SECRET TREATIES on my way home from work today (nice day, windows open, speakers pushing 11), and it hit me just what a great tune CAGEY CRETINS is for the Brain Surgeons to do. The drumming is top notch (like Albert could be anything BUT top notch) and I can really hear them slapping this one out live. Deb would sound great on the Eric Bloom parts, and of course Albert would sing the "dumb clouds.." chorus. Would be a real smoker live, yessiree bob. So I figured I'd post it, and maybe put a little BOC/tBS life back in the list. Oh, one other thing that has crossed my mind lately. Am I really at all surprised that the new STAR WARS movie has suffered the same fate on the BOC-L as BANDS that are "popular"? No, I guess not. Tell me, SEX is still a pretty popular thing in most of the free world, do the people on this list think that is just too......... "common", and have they found some new thing that is better, just that the rest of us unwashed slobs have never heard of it? ;^) You'll notice my WINK smiley. Just some good natured ribbing people, don't get yer piss hot. :^) Back to the trenches....... Torgo Torgo has gone to the dark side....... *********************************************** DrTorgo at hotmail.com http://welcome.to/torgos *********************************************** _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Fri May 14 15:33:42 1999 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 12:33:42 -0700 Subject: Hawkwind Sound Files In-Reply-To: <000201be9e21$177b0480$4f1c883e@default> Message-ID: Have you told them about Punkcast #2? (http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/Hawkwind/hawkcast.html) Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu > > Good Afternoon > I've had a few people asking me where they can find Hawkwind > Sound files on > the Internet. > I guess they mean MP3 files and such, but being a complete novice > on this i > may well be wrong. > > Does anyone know anywhere, where they can hear Hawkwind online? > > Also, those interested on the Buxton BADAM 99 Festival, where Hawkwind, > Bedouin, Arthur Brown, Spacehead and Daevid Allen are playing, > there's now a > website link and advert at the following URL: > http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/whats_new.html > All the best > Age > > Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: > http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html > From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri May 14 15:41:46 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:41:46 +0100 Subject: tBS: Cagey Cretins and other stuff Message-ID: On fre 14 maj 1999 12.10 +0000 "Torgo Sedler" wrote: > Tell me, SEX is still a > pretty popular thing in most of the free world, do the people on this list > think that is just too......... "common", and have they found some new thing > that is better, just that the rest of us unwashed slobs have never heard of > it? ;^) Well, for the moment, a guitar, a tub of ice cream, and two pubs within 200 yards of my door will have to do :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Fri May 14 15:40:56 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel kew) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:40:56 +0100 Subject: pink fairies stuff Message-ID: Hi all, I've got a really baddly scratched pink fairies vinyl which is really wicked and now is the time to replace it with CD. It's imaginatively entitled 'Pink Fairies' and is on the polydor label does anyone know where i can get it or a suitable alternative the tracks being; the snake, city kids, wargirl, do it & well,well well to name just the coolest. cheers doc. ps are they still doing it and where can i hear them. From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Fri May 14 16:22:47 1999 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:22:47 +0200 Subject: pink fairies stuff In-Reply-To: <006201be9e44$8308a860$0ff2a8c2@ekew.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: > I've got a really baddly scratched pink fairies vinyl which is really >wicked and now is the time to replace it with CD. It's imaginatively >entitled 'Pink Fairies' and is on the polydor label does anyone know where i >can get it or a suitable alternative the tracks being; > the snake, city kids, wargirl, do it & well,well well >to name just the coolest. > >cheers doc. > >ps are they still doing it and where can i hear them. polydor just released a cheap sampler called master series. it has all the ones on it you mentioned. the best part is it goes on for more then 76 minutes. so up the pinks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! andre From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Fri May 14 18:48:41 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel kew) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:48:41 +0100 Subject: tBS: Cagey Cretins and other stuff Message-ID: ******sex******* Well if some one has found something better than sex i bet they're not on the net because they would be doing it right now or they can't say/ won't say. *****other stuff****** Is there any one in the whole of the southwest (cornwall and s**t) who listens to HW etc and are there any hostileries/pubs/bars/cafes/eating establishments/clubs which cater for such folk, strangeness that we are. From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Fri May 14 20:13:43 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 20:13:43 -0400 Subject: tBS: Cagey Cretins and other stuff In-Reply-To: <19990514191019.94637.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: At 12:10 PM 5/14/99 PDT, you wrote: >Hi kids. Me again...... > >I was frooging to SECRET TREATIES on my way home from work today (nice day, >windows open, speakers pushing 11), and it hit me just what a great tune >CAGEY CRETINS is for the Brain Surgeons to do. The drumming is top notch >(like Albert could be anything BUT top notch) and I can really hear them >slapping this one out live. Deb would sound great on the Eric Bloom parts, >and of course Albert would sing the "dumb clouds.." chorus. Would be a real >smoker live, yessiree bob. They could get good old Joe to play them 88s on the track too. At least only 4 days separate my stereo for remaster cult heaviosity. Other good tBS-able BOC tunes: Im on the Lamb But I ain't No Sheep, Anything that Stalk-Forrest Group churned out, Redeems would make a great "unplugged" number. Ooooh.... how Deb snarling the vocals to "Heavy Metal:Black and Silver". But what would be even better, of course, is te 2 CDs full of new stuff the band is cooking up. Also, given the drumming is becoming wilder and looser (never bad for Albert, he only seems to be able to improve.), They should cover the popular instrumental favorite, "In the Hall of the Mountain King." David's bass would have room to do neat stuff, Pete could supply leads and weirdness as only He of the Fruit Guitar could in a wonderful trading w/ Billy "Hello. I rock" Hilfiger and Deb and Albert could lay dow the vocal harmony lines as in the Who's thundering rendition. Increase heaviness by ten, turn stereo to 11, and you got Brain Surgeons. For the inflammatory record, I think tBS do a better BOC than BOC does now. Reminiscence of tBS variety: The extended version of "Name Your Monster" theat they played at the end of the show in Rochester was great exploration of group dynamic. You haven't lived till you've seen Albert beat the living !!!! out of a defenceless cymbal. Even his hat came off! [insert strange daydream where tBS cover the second part of "A Love Supreme" with pete taking the role of sax lines as Billy riffs with abandon underneath) Order Vavona Burr by Bevis Frond. I did! Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sat May 15 09:10:11 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 14:10:11 +0100 Subject: OFF: Hoven Droven Message-ID: On fre 14 maj 1999 10.59 +0100 "Mark P Lee" wrote: > Is the HD stuff available in the UK ? Yeah--there's a place called ADA records in Yorkshire which I ordered Grov from, while Hia Hia I picked up in HMV Oxford St London! I can't ADA's phone nu., but remind me and I'll hunt about. > I have a copy of Grov on CD > but would like to replace my very bad quality copy of Hia-Hia on > a crappy ferric tape !!! For the record I think HH is the better of the > two releases and concur with later comments that it's well worth > a listen. I can't easily choose--_Grov_ has such tracks as "Slentbjenn", "Grottan", "LP-Schottis", and "Skavadern" (one for the Sundsvall folks there ;) But then _Hia Hia_ has "Kjellingen", the ridiculously heavy (and awesome) "K?ttpolska", etc. ... Looking forward to their new album later this year (when there might be a UK tour, also ...) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat May 15 09:57:15 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 14:57:15 +0100 Subject: HW: Lyrics In-Reply-To: <199904201047.LAA18791@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, M Holmes wrote: > Government attacks and monitoring of the Net such as key escrow for encryption > products would seem to fit in pretty well with the technology theme and > Brock's apparently anarchist politics. 'Streets of Fear' anyone? One of those instances where HW lyrics seem to have prefigured reality... > Rather than far out SF I wonder if a better concept wouldn't be some > sort of near term hard SF such as a realistic but doomed mission to > Mars. Backed up by either a comic or story outlining the characters and > what went wrong, this could look a lot stronger than the Death Generator > idea. Those of you who remember Apollo 13 will know the drama of having > heroes struggling for survival beyond the help of anyone. This would be cool, but seems a bit 'straight space' to me for where the band's output is currently heading - which is rather hippier. I fear at the moment we're all too likely to wind up with Power Rangers or something very similar. Not that I've got anything against space-ships and ley-lines in the same context, I just fear that HW could become really tacky with it. Mind you, when they actually pick up an idea they never do what I'd expect with it, so I shall wait and see what the 'Death Generator' thing kicks up. If it ever does. > It could also end up fairly topical in a few years. It fits in pretty > strongly with things like the Hawkwind Log and poetry like The Awakening > and First Landing on Medusa. Without wanting to drag them back to Moorcock more than we have to, couldn't they do something useful based round 'The Distant Suns'? Yours, Jon From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sat May 15 10:22:08 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 15:22:08 +0100 Subject: HW: Lyrics Message-ID: On l?r 15 maj 1999 14.57 +0100 "Jonathan Jarrett" wrote: > Not that I've got anything against space-ships and > ley-lines in the same context, I just fear that HW could become really > tacky with it. Hawkwind are best when walking that fine line between the tacky and the sublime :) I mean, _Space Ritual_ is *way* tacky if you take it apart. But it's played with a 'tude about 9 astronomical units long, which is what makes it possible to pull off! Cheers, Carl ObCD: Pseudo Sun, _Future Memoirs_ -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Sat May 15 10:52:19 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel kew) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 15:52:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Lyrics Message-ID: If you think 'Space Ritual' is tacky then 'Doremi Faso Latido' must be right out there but it's not and I'll have words with anyone who says otherwise. The power chords at the start of 'Lord OF Light' just have to be felt live to be beleived - Hawkwind with special guest Lemmy Brixton acedemy 1990. DOC........ From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat May 15 12:31:37 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:31:37 EDT Subject: HW: Lyrics Message-ID: In a message dated 5/15/99 10:22:18 AM, cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK writes: << Hawkwind are best when walking that fine line between the tacky and the sublime :) I mean, _Space Ritual_ is *way* tacky if you take it apart. But it's played with a 'tude about 9 astronomical units long, which is what makes it possible to pull off! >> it was so long ago...sigh...i dont think hawkwind's anti-establishment or confrontational aspects are well-remembered here, "urban guerrilla" notwithstanding... if all hawkwind had been conveying to me in the early '70s was the science fiction/outer space stuff, they would not have been the "inspiration" to me that they were...nor would they have stayed with me to this day as they have. a certain audacity was required to pull off albums 2 through 4 (in particular) and as carl is saying above, indeed they pulled it off...and while they couldnt have perpetuated this indefinitely, for awhile they truly did...and what a fookin' rush it is to walk that line... but from my own oft-turbulent band xperiences (inspired in no small way by what we're discussing here) i know that one gets weary...it's hard to sustain that 'tude...and ultimately safer to not do so, unless you sincerely intend to go down in flames (cue: neil young's "out of the blue" etc) more's the pity "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat May 15 12:37:49 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:37:49 EDT Subject: HW: Lyrics Message-ID: In a message dated 5/15/99 10:55:21 AM, nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET writes: <> i could be wrong but i think their use of the word "tacky" involved absurdity more than polyester...no way carl-chan would dis "doremi" and "space ritual"...i have pounded it out in the trenches w/this man >>>> "<>" ps>> is this 1990 "lord of light" w/lemmy something you have on tape? From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sat May 15 13:14:41 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 18:14:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Lyrics Message-ID: On l?r 15 maj 1999 12.37 +0000 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 5/15/99 10:55:21 AM, nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET writes: > < right > out there but it's not and I'll have words with anyone who says otherwise. > The power chords at the start of 'Lord OF Light' just have to be felt live > to be beleived - Hawkwind with special guest Lemmy Brixton acedemy 1990. > > i could be wrong but i think their use of the word "tacky" involved absurdity > more than polyester...no way carl-chan would dis "doremi" and "space > ritual".. Quite. _Space Ritual_ has been firmly entrenched on the list of my favorite albums for a long time, and I've always regarded _Doremi_ to be much of a piece with it--not least because I count the bass solo on the _Doremi_ "Time We Left" to be one of the greatest achievements in the history of the universe. My point is that _SR_ (and a lot of other HW stuff) is basically gonzoid sci-fi with liquid hydrogen thrusters--and, when you get down to it, pretty "tacky". High art, it is not. And don't get me wrong: I _ain't_ sayin' that's a bad thing. And that's not to say that even gonzoid sci-fi cannot be a vehicle of the more serious and confrontational side of HW (which is also a good thing). For example, "Orgone Accumulator" does not explicitly discuss either Reich's theories or the social questions raised by his reception and treatment. It's just a bunch of cheezy rhymes which Bob made up by finding "-ator" in his rhyming dictionary. Or is it? Or are phrases like "no social integrator" and "one man isolator" *actually* social commentary cunningly disguised under the wacky lyrics of a song which seems to regard an orgone accumulator as some kind of cybernetic sex toy? Damned if I know. I just made that up :) Such bizarre deconstructional games can be played _ad_infinitum_, but I prefer not to play them. If they were intended to work at a subconcious level let 'em. A little overt social commentary is fun, but I like it tempered with the gonzoid sci-fi. Similar with Motorhead--Lemmy writes a lot of excellent and very serious lyrics and I dig that, but I appreciate them best because they are delivered by a top notch rock'n'roll band. Mostly, I like Hawkwind, music and lyrics, because they're _fun_. "Shall we travel through space?" "Yeah, why not?" They just pick up and *go*. I like them for all the reasons I've never warmed to post-Barrett Floyd. There were some people taking loads of drugs and still not having fun ;) Miserable introspective gits! :) Very pretty, very clever, but it just gets me down. Cue up "Master of the Universe" please :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat May 15 07:03:42 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:03:42 +0100 Subject: OFF: Gong lineup change (US tour) In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990514162804.00921530@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: In article <3.0.5.32.19990514162804.00921530 at mail.clara.net>, Chris Warburton writes >ChrisW >ObCD: Rhys Chatham - hard edge would you like poppadoms with that? -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat May 15 07:02:48 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:02:48 +0100 Subject: OFF: Gong lineup change (US tour) In-Reply-To: <000001be9e15$c3dd13a0$423f63c3@default> Message-ID: In article <000001be9e15$c3dd13a0$423f63c3 at default>, Andy Gilham writes >> Assualte et batterie, sur l'anatomie humaine? > >"On top of the human anatomy"? Said in a John Cleese accent ? la "The >people called Romanes, they go the 'ouse?" My wife comes from a French family. When we go au Francais, they all gather round and poke me with a sharpened stick, trying to get me to speak. When I do, they all fall about laughing. :( -- Jon From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sat May 15 13:57:31 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 18:57:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Lemmy in _Bassist_ magazine Message-ID: BTW, I note that Lemmy graces the cover of the current issue (June 99) of _Bassist_ magazine (a UK beastie). The pic itself looks like it's probably about 10 years old though. I'm sure Lemmy looks grimmer now :) and last report have him still clean(ish) shaven. But I approve of the bass he's holding in the photo, since its a dead ringer for mine :) (except that he clearly has some kind of humbucker in the neck pickup, while I have a bastardized Telecaster "quarter-pounder" pick up in that position). The article has a couple of paragraphs of HW-related material--the familiar "how I joined story" with Nik's "make noises in E" advice, and the "drug bust/kick-out" story. Lemmy also picks his fave HW albums as _Space Ritual_ and _HotMG_--choices I won't argue with barring a special mention for the bass solo in _Doremi_'s "Time We Left" (which, serendipitously, I am listening to now :) and a lingering affection for the combination of ambientish stuff and and spacerock on _Palace Springs_ (though on that they should have ditched the ridiculous "Acid Test" in favour of and "Out of the Shadows, etc." medley :) Lemmy also asserts that the new Motorhead live album is better than _No Sleep 'til Hammersmith_. A bold statement. But though I haven't heard the new album yet, I've heard a fair deal of live Motorhead in the last few years and I'm prepared to believe him! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat May 15 14:18:46 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 14:18:46 EDT Subject: HW: Lyrics Message-ID: In a message dated 5/15/99 1:14:52 PM, cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK writes: << I count the bass solo on the _Doremi_ "Time We Left" to be one of the greatest achievements in the history of the universe. >> oh man, the engineer mighta gotten pissed at how lemmy cranked up his amp on the spot at the start of that solo...(contrast w/him going through the board on the "warriors" lp and being buried...)...harkening back to my teen daze, "time we left" was "the armageddon song" due in part to that solo...can recall playing side two of "doremi" to a much older friend and telling him "okay, here comes armageddon" and when it was over his response was along the lines of "whew, you were right"... which is not to say we had an unenjoyable time w/this armageddon (no relation of course to keith relf's final band, who would be predominantly unknown here anyway) <> but during the era we're discussing, it was anti-establishment/non-conformist gonzoid sci-fi etc., and this is the distinction lost from where we are now, i tink. those seeking "high art" in 1973 could turn to their yes lp's (grin) <> <> another teen memory, another much older friend, the day i bought my second copy of "a space ritual" (that and "doremi" being the only lp's i had to replace due to overplaying!)...his comment re: "orgone accumulator" was "sounds like someone trying to be jagger singing on top of canned heat"...that that song is really one of the DUMBEST songs of all time (grin) doesnt lessen my enjoyment of it...stupid stupid boogie song but IT'S OKAY! in fact it led me to go find out what an "orgone accumulator" actually was... << Mostly, I like Hawkwind, music and lyrics, because they're _fun_.>> surely i was thinking they were "fun" when i was 15, but they also sang lines like "they put you down/they cut your hair", and as someone who was once forcibly dragged outside from the kitchen table and gagged by their stepmother so that USMC daddy-o could climb on top of me and hack up my hair w/scissors so badly i'd have to go get a haircut...well, i guess you had to be there... << I like them for all the reasons I've never warmed to post-Barrett Floyd. There were some people taking loads of drugs and still not having fun ;) Miserable introspective gits! >> well said, carl-chan. i might have phrased it "miserable filthy-rich introspective gits"...y'know, several weeks back when me and others were tearing up various bands and upsetting certain people here, i didnt dare bring up floyd because it's not worth going there...but beginning w/"dark side" they make me puke. i'll leave it at that. and i wont argue about them now either, so please dont nobody start. time i left... "<>" From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Sat May 15 15:42:17 1999 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:42:17 +0100 Subject: HW/Haze/Bedouin: Photos of 13-May-99 Message-ID: Dear people, after attending a thoroughly good gig last Thursday I have put up some photos from it at http://www.rdg.ac.uk/AcaDepts/kc/nhe/bedouin.htm There are links to the site of the support band, Haze, which I would recommend you get over to, but it appears to contain no data at the moment. I'm sure some responsible member of society will remedy this oversight. Hello to fellow boclers Bodge and Neil Ward, unless of course it wasn't you I spoke to. Neil, if you've got a set list could you send it to me so I could add to the page? Cheers Mike From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sat May 15 15:47:58 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:47:58 +0100 Subject: HW: Lyrics Message-ID: On l?r 15 maj 1999 14.18 +0000 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > but during the era we're discussing, it was anti-establishment/non-conformist > gonzoid sci-fi etc., and this is the distinction lost from where we are now, > i tink. Perhaps so. I mean, I recognize that HW is anti-establishment and non-conformist, but so is darn near all the music I have to some extent (that is, the music collection which I have established conforms well to sentiments of anti-establishment/non-conformist ideologies :) My views are doubtless skewed by a deep distrust of anything that smells like politics--no wonder I was so into the Dead :) > surely i was thinking they were "fun" when i was 15, but they also sang lines > like "they put you down/they cut your hair", and as someone who was once > forcibly dragged outside from the kitchen table and gagged by their > stepmother so that USMC daddy-o could climb on top of me and hack up my hair > w/scissors so badly i'd have to go get a haircut...well, i guess you had to > be there... Hmmm, yes, that's outside of my experience! > In a message dated 5/15/99 1:14:52 PM, cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK writes: > << I like them for all the reasons I've never warmed to post-Barrett Floyd. > There were some people taking loads of drugs and still > not having fun ;) Miserable introspective gits! >> > > well said, carl-chan. i might have phrased it "miserable filthy-rich > introspective gits"...y'know, several weeks back when me and others were > tearing up various bands and upsetting certain people here, i didnt dare > bring up floyd because it's not worth going there... Well, my intention is not to knock post-Barrett Floyd--I mean, they do what they do, and there are countless legions who dig it. I wanted to provide an example that made a good counterpoint to my example of the Hawkwind "fun-factor". Like it or hate it, few I think will pick post-Barrett Floyd as a band over-burdened with _fun_. People have often been surprised that I am not a Floyd-fan since I like all that psychedelic and progressive stuff. I've often been surprised myself. It's fine in small doses. But it comes down to their lacking the "fun" factor. It makes me want to "sit upon the carpet and tell sad stories" ;) Whereas Hawkwind's music, even when they sing about grimmer things, still strikes me as underlyingly "fun" ... or "defiant", at least. Something of the Lemmyish "born to lose, live to win" thing :) Which is why (to get back to the start of this part of the thread) I think that although spaceships and ley-lines are to a great extent inherently tacky, they might make fairly rockin' HW subject matter :) in space we trust, Carl ObCD: Amorphis, "Divinity" CDS -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat May 15 16:45:42 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 16:45:42 EDT Subject: HW: Lyrics Message-ID: In a message dated 5/15/99 3:48:19 PM, cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK writes: << Well, my intention is not to knock post-Barrett Floyd--I mean, they do what they do, and there are countless legions who dig it. ===oh, i got me no prob slammin' post-"dark side" floyd up one side and down the other: they're mcdonald's/marlboro/budweiser, which by design or default are also "dug" by "countless legions". hock ptui! but please, o countless legions, enjoy yourselves w/yr floyd and keep me out of it. i shant go onto your turf and annoy you. 'kay? <> === in regards to something putrid like "the wall", it's more like "please subsidize my fantastically wealthy state of rock-star misery, and dont mind me pissing all over you as you do so". << Whereas Hawkwind's music, even when they sing about grimmer things, still strikes me as underlyingly "fun" ... or "defiant", at least. Something of the Lemmyish "born to lose, live to win" thing :)>> ===well there ya go, carl-chan. there ya go. Which is why (to get back to the start of this part of the thread) I think that although spaceships and ley-lines are to a great extent inherently tacky, they might make fairly rockin' HW subject matter :) ===beats the heck out of wretched mewling like "comfortably numb" IMHO === rama lama fa fa fa "<>" From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Sat May 15 17:04:02 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel kew) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 22:04:02 +0100 Subject: HW: Lyrics Message-ID: Sorry i hav'nt got the brixton concert on tape but wsa talking from personal experience and man what a concert it was! I've been out of the hawkwind scene for quite a while, in fact the last time i saw them was Hammersmith odeon 1992, which is a bit of a bummer and something i definately intend to rectify. Well i say that HW's endurance is based on change and cycles of style, and even the anti-establishment politico stuf was always done with a certain good humour, I don't ever remember leaving a HW concert fired up with revolutionary fervour just hyped up on a good time had by all. Part of that must have been the instant camaradrie experienced in the crowd unlike alot of mosh pits where things could get abit nasty. If for groups to be good they have got write clever stuff why is the innane 'needle gun' so bloody good, from reading everyone scribbling's it apears we nearly all agree back to Space trippy stuff has got to be a good move. DOC........ From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Sat May 15 20:00:26 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 01:00:26 +0100 Subject: HW: IMAGES Message-ID: Has anyone got the lyrics to IMAGES? Thanks Kris From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Sat May 15 20:16:43 1999 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:16:43 -0700 Subject: IMAGES In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, there is a fairly interesting (funny?) try at them in the booklet in the Japanese CD release of "Space Bandits." Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu > > > Has anyone got the lyrics to IMAGES? > > Thanks > Kris > From flossbac at NLCI.COM Sat May 15 20:55:29 1999 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 19:55:29 -0500 Subject: HW: IMAGES Message-ID: Here is my attempt at the lyrics from "Images." There were several lines where I really couldn't figure out what Bridgett was singing, but I'm fairly certain about most of the song. Maybe some other people can help offer some insight into the mystery lines, which I've put in brackets. Here we go... Memories surround him walking through the door smells of dust and summer heat [and water in his thoughts? And Brighton....?] chorus: The singing hand, the face of fate the shifting scenes I can't explain the crazy fool who screams his pain as he tries to cheat now his final game Whispering from the balcony flickers in the the [hall? wall? door?] the world won't call for mortality appearing here once more bridge: It's gone now. It's gone now. twists the soul, turns flesh to stone the fear and the anger of the lost and alone Endless streams [dreams?] of wasted days [only pave the way] laughter echoes [bitter....?] there's no need to stay So there you have it, Kris. I hope this helps out some. John Majka flossbac at nlcic.com ----- Original Message ----- From: XXX To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Saturday, May 15, 1999 7:00 PM Subject: HW: IMAGES > Has anyone got the lyrics to IMAGES? > > Thanks > Kris > From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Sun May 16 05:27:08 1999 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:27:08 +0200 Subject: HW: Brixton 1990 Message-ID: nigel kew schrieb: > The power chords at the start of 'Lord OF Light' just have to be felt live > to be beleived - Hawkwind with special guest Lemmy Brixton acedemy 1990. > > DOC........ Lemmy wasn?t at Brixton Academy in 1990. I know this because I was there, and I still have a tape. In fact it was a very disappointing gig, only 75 min long and Simon House has just left the band again. Lots of other good bands there, it was the first time I heard Bevis Frond (or Magic Bevis Muscle Frond) and the Magic Mushroom Band. Andreas From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun May 16 06:37:13 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:37:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Lyrics Message-ID: On l?r 15 maj 1999 22.04 +0100 "nigel kew" wrote: > I've been out of the hawkwind scene for quite a while, in fact > the last time i saw them was Hammersmith odeon 1992, which is a bit of a > bummer and something i definately intend to rectify. IMO, Hawkwind were at a real peak about then. I was surprised at how strong the post-Alan band looked like it could become, but there hasn't been a lot going on there recently. Or if there _is_ a lot going on, it's all very much behind the scenes. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun May 16 06:48:25 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:48:25 +0100 Subject: HW: IMAGES Message-ID: With my memory jogged, I witter ... Good song, "Images". One of real high-points of _Space Bandits_, though blown away by the towering live performances of "Out of the Shadows" which was strangely weak on the studio version. Alan's "Wings" also comes alive with Bedouin much better live with Bedouin than on _Space Bandits_, which seemed to me to have a bunch of good material imperfectly realized in the studio. I have a dodgy bootleg of the unreleased "Images" video somewhere in the States. It's pretty cool as well. There's a live version freom that Italian CD, neh? That's the one that ended up on the UK release of _California Brainstorm_, isn't it? Cheers, Carl ObCD: Garmarna, _Vederg?llningen_ -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Sun May 16 11:57:50 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel kew) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 16:57:50 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton 1990 Message-ID: Thanx for the correction, may be the it was 1991 but i definately saw lemmy as hawkwind's guest at brixton either 89, 90, 91, 92. My memory of the that period is a bit addled, booze and stuff does that to you, but the concert self is vivid. From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Sun May 16 13:01:45 1999 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 19:01:45 +0200 Subject: HW: Brixton 1990 Message-ID: nigel kew schrieb: > Thanx for the correction, may be the it was 1991 but i definately saw lemmy > as hawkwind's guest at brixton either 89, 90, 91, 92. My memory of the that > period is a bit addled, booze and stuff does that to you, but the concert > self is vivid. Then it might have been 89 or 91, though I?m not sure. I?ve recorded the 92 gig (and there is an official video of this event), great one. Maybe Bernhard could help, but he?s right now on holiday in California... Andreas From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Sun May 16 13:15:12 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel kew) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 18:15:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton 1990 Message-ID: >Then it might have been 89 or 91, though I?m not sure. I?ve recorded >the 92 gig >(and there is an official video of this event), great one. < I'd be interested in getting hold of the said video where is best. Is there also a officail audio cut of that gig! DOC......... From hawkwind at ZEBRA.NET Sun May 16 15:22:37 1999 From: hawkwind at ZEBRA.NET (Jerome Kekatos) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 14:22:37 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind: Found while browsing Message-ID: Saw this site that has an some interesting Hawkwind info. The commercial site had a fairly comprehensive Hawwkind history and disc selection, as well as some good prices on the discs. ooooh and Can too. http://www.wildweb.com/av/article/0,1048,1_1_2521,00.html http://www.atomicpop.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/AtomicPop.woa/wa/atomic?linkType =meta&id=R%20%20%20%2040140&type=Album From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Sun May 16 17:37:16 1999 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 14:37:16 -0700 Subject: HW: Brixton 1990 In-Reply-To: <007601be9fb8$1c076c80$1bf1a8c2@ekew.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: It must've been 9/3/89, then. And Tim Blake joined them there 6/7/91. Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu > > Thanx for the correction, may be the it was 1991 but i definately > saw lemmy > as hawkwind's guest at brixton either 89, 90, 91, 92. My memory > of the that > period is a bit addled, booze and stuff does that to you, but the concert > self is vivid. > From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Mon May 17 08:15:36 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 08:15:36 -0400 Subject: tBS: Cagey Cretins and other stuff Message-ID: Torgo sez: >I was frooging to SECRET TREATIES on my way home from work today (nice day, windows open, speakers pushing 11), and it hit me just what a great tune CAGEY CRETINS is for the Brain Surgeons to do. The drumming is top notch (like Albert could be anything BUT top notch) and I can really hear them slapping this one out live. Deb would sound great on the Eric Bloom parts, and of course Albert would sing the "dumb clouds.." chorus. Would be a real smoker live, yessiree bob. Yessiree Bob, I think yer onto something there. I recently got to hear the song that inspired it, SWU's "Bark in the Sun" (at Bolle's Museum) and it made me remember what a great tune "Cagey Cretins" is. This would definitely work well with tBS. What do you say Albert? How 'bout breaking it out on your next tour? And then Torgo sez: > > They could get good old Joe to play them 88s on the track too. I would have thought no, but after hearing what his keys on the Mike Watt "Dominance and Submission" track sounded like, I'd have to agree. > At least > only 4 days separate my stereo for remaster cult heaviosity. Just got the BOC/T&M remaster myself - it's quite good - would have preferred it to have been remixed heavier, but it does sound better than the original CDs, and the added liner notes by Eric are a nice touch. > Other good tBS-able BOC tunes: Im on the Lamb But I ain't No Sheep, > Anything that Stalk-Forrest Group churned out, Redeems would make a > great "unplugged" number. Hmm... you're starting to stretch a bit too much here Torgo. > Ooooh.... how Deb snarling the vocals to "Heavy > Metal:Black and Silver". Ah - NOW yer talking! John John A. Swartz - The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA - jswartz at mitre.org "Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to Anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate leads to SUFFERING." -- Yoda (Star Wars: Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace) From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Mon May 17 08:52:08 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:52:08 +0100 Subject: OFF: Hoven Droven. In-Reply-To: <199905160901.FAA27609@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >On fre 14 maj 1999 10.59 +0100 "Mark P Lee" >wrote: >> Is the HD stuff available in the UK ? > > Yeah--there's a place called ADA records in Yorkshire which >I ordered Grov from, while Hia Hia I picked up in HMV Oxford St >London! I can't ADA's phone nu., but remind me and I'll hunt >about. > >> I have a copy of Grov on CD >> but would like to replace my very bad quality copy of Hia-Hia on >> a crappy ferric tape !!! For the record I think HH is the better of the >> two releases and concur with later comments that it's well worth >> a listen. > > I can't easily choose--_Grov_ has such tracks as "Slentbjenn", >"Grottan", "LP-Schottis", and "Skavadern" (one for the Sundsvall >folks there ;) But then _Hia Hia_ has "Kjellingen", the ridiculously >heavy (and awesome) "K?ttpolska", etc. ... > > Looking forward to their new album later this year (when >there might be a UK tour, also ...) > >Cheers, >Carl > >-- >Carl Edlund Anderson I'd be chuffed if you'd let me know any dates you hear of 'specially in the midlands, I've never seen them live. I'll get UK directories to root the number out for me and give 'em a bell. Cheers. Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.demon.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From abrevard at SHL.COM Mon May 17 12:01:35 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:01:35 -0500 Subject: No subject Message-ID: >I was frooging to SECRET TREATIES on my way home from work today (nice day, windows open, speakers pushing 11), and it hit me just what a great tune CAGEY CRETINS is for the Brain Surgeons to do. The drumming is top notch (like Albert could be anything BUT top notch) and I can really hear them slapping this one out live. Deb would sound great on the Eric Bloom parts, and of course Albert would sing the "dumb clouds.." chorus. Would be a real smoker live, yessiree bob. Generally speaking anything off ST would sound good on tBS. >So I figured I'd post it, and maybe put a little BOC/tBS life back in the list. Thanks it needed it. >Oh, one other thing that has crossed my mind lately. Am I really at all surprised that the new STAR WARS movie has suffered the same fate on the BOC-L as BANDS that are "popular"? No, I guess not. Tell me, SEX is still a pretty popular thing in most of the free world, do the people on this list think that is just too......... "common", and have they found some new thing that is better, just that the rest of us unwashed slobs have never heard of it? ;^) You'll notice my WINK smiley. Just some good natured ribbing people, don't get yer piss hot. :^) Tha Alpha and Omega...Sex, Lies and Videoatape...Catherine Zeta-Jones...Japanese Anime... Test completed. Sex still works for me. Now about SW...it will never live up to the hype and the smart money says it will not break Titanic's box office record either. How could it possibly live up to what Hollywood has been saying since Lucas announced the schedule? Fortunately for me I may be the only person alive who hasn't seen any of the trailers, not one. I try to stay away from all the articles too. So give me the under on not breaking Titanic's records. The big boat was a complete windfall of good luck. It was the only movie worth seeing the summer it was released. Can't recall a more dreadful pile of schlock than last summer's movie season. SW will have some competition at least. Ghost in the Ruins NP: Iced Earth - Something Wicked This Way Comes From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Mon May 17 12:07:34 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 09:07:34 -0700 Subject: BRAIN: Any news on new album? Message-ID: Just wondering if anyone hooked up to AOL might know if there's been any new info on the double CD at tBS folder. Last I heard, it sounded like it would be out in June. I.M. Ready 2 Rock, Brian obCDsplayingceaselessly> "Box of Hammers" -The Brain Surgeons "Vavona Burr" -The Bevis Frond From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon May 17 13:14:03 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:14:03 EDT Subject: BOC biz... In-Reply-To: <63A955F33941D111A68800805F3198E15A46AF@ws30989.mcit.com> Message-ID: > From: "BREVARD, Adrian R." > > >So I figured I'd post it, and maybe put a little BOC/tBS life back in the > list. > > Thanks it needed it. Well, I'll toss in a bit of tangential BOC content. I just got in a Blue Voodoo guitar amp--same as used by all of BOC's guitarists, though mine's the BV60 as opposed to the BV120 that BOC uses. Same in all details exc. mines only got 4 power tubes for a more-humane 50 watts vs. the 100 watter BD & co. prefer. Anyone out there have any idea what settings BD uses? Man, I am psyched! theo From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Mon May 17 13:18:22 1999 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 19:18:22 +0200 Subject: HW: Brixton 1990 Message-ID: nigel kew schrieb: > I'd be interested in getting hold of the said video where is best. It was released some 5 years ago by HW Merchandise as "Hawkwind Live 15/8/92". I don?t know if it?s still available. It?s one of the better videos (125 min), although Brock, Davey & Chadwick hide behind some big canvas tepees. And there were 2 additional synth players (I forgot their names), though they can barely be heard. Andreas From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon May 17 13:28:44 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:28:44 -0400 Subject: BOC biz... Message-ID: 11 > ---------- > From: Ted Jackson jr. s2h2[SMTP:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 1:14 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: BOC biz... > > > From: "BREVARD, Adrian R." > > > > >So I figured I'd post it, and maybe put a little BOC/tBS life back in > the > > list. > > > > Thanks it needed it. > > Well, I'll toss in a bit of tangential BOC content. I just got in a > Blue Voodoo guitar amp--same as used by all of BOC's guitarists, > though mine's the BV60 as opposed to the BV120 that BOC uses. Same > in all details exc. mines only got 4 power tubes for a more-humane 50 > watts vs. the 100 watter BD & co. prefer. > > Anyone out there have any idea what settings BD uses? Man, I am > psyched! > > theo > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon May 17 13:32:56 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:32:56 EDT Subject: BOC biz... In-Reply-To: <3D092F82B85@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: exc. mines only got 4 power tubes for a more-humane 50 > watts vs. the 100 watter BD & co. prefer. > > Anyone out there have any idea what settings BD uses? Man, I am > psyched! > > theo Guitar nuts will realize that I got that backward--two 6L6 power tubes in my amp, four in the big boy... theo From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon May 17 13:47:06 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:47:06 -0400 Subject: OFF: Audiophile Help Message-ID: Looking for advice on cassette decks. My old one is slowly giving up the ghost and I am looking at getting a new one. I have been looking at ones like the Sony TC-825S (with Dolby S), TC-625, and TC-425, Denon 585, and a Pioneer model (???). My questions are numerous since I really do not know what I am looking at. Which brand is better (if any), is Dolby S worth the extra money, what features seem worthwile (fader/RMS/AMS/Maula Bias/etc). Thanks BTW> price ceiling is $250. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon May 17 15:38:58 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:38:58 EDT Subject: OFF: Audiophile Help Message-ID: In a message dated 5/17/99 1:49:06 PM, russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM writes: <> i dont think you'd necessarily pay more for dolby S; i got a pioneer deck with it almost 5 years ago, dont recall paying much (if any) more for it... my question might be >>and feedback is encouraged here<< "why bother?" i almost never use the dolby S (nor any other dolby, 'tho S is related to B & C in name only). since the folks i send cassettes to most often dont have it, no point in my using it on outbound tapes... i've had some appreciation of it when used on things like really poor quality audience recordings, or exceptionally scratchy '40s transcription discs, but on other occasions, given the condition of the material to start with, one might as well listen to the top-end crackle and hiss. the audience tape type stuff can be muffled and occasionally "surging" w/dolby S as well, i've found... would i go out of my way again to get a deck w/dolby S? nope. harkening back to mr. hall's original question , is it worth the extra money? if in fact extra money was involved, i'd say , one mo' time, nope. but seriously, has anyone else here gotten much use out of dolby S? please xplain. softly, as i leave you... "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue May 18 02:19:56 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 02:19:56 EDT Subject: OFF: looking for life Message-ID: the title of the article in monday's BOSTON GLOBE was if ET does call home, PC owners might listen in. i'm not up to pecking the whole thing out, but: "beginning today, anyone with a home or office computer can participate in the Search for ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence, also known as SETI, and anyone who does could end up being the person credited with helping to make the most earth shaking discovery of all time. "SETI at home, as the program is called... consists of special software that acts like a screen saver. whenever the computer is idle, it begins analyzing data collected by the world's largest radiotelescope, the Arecibo dish in puerto rico, which looks for signs of intelligent signals from far away." there's much more than i've typed, but at the end: "starting today, anyone can download the software from either of these sites: www.planetary.org www.setiathome.ssl.bekeley.edu and with the hawkwind liverpool empire 10/23/97 pt.1 download from punkcast.com choogling in the background (just as discussed last week!)... "<>" From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Tue May 18 04:49:52 1999 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 04:49:52 EDT Subject: HW: Brixton 1990 Message-ID: Andreas wrote>2 other synth players but i cant remember their names... ..They were an ambient band called salt tank ..I can also remember Lemmy jamming at one of the Brixton gigs..I remember the stage being lit mostly in blue light...The back projections didnt come out too well under it !! From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Tue May 18 05:32:58 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:32:58 +0100 Subject: OFF: Tape Deck. In-Reply-To: <199905180901.FAA04646@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >Looking for advice on cassette decks. > >My old one is slowly giving up the ghost and I am looking at getting a new >one. > >I have been looking at ones like the Sony TC-825S (with Dolby S), TC-625, >and TC-425, >Denon 585, and a Pioneer model (???). > >My questions are numerous since I really do not know what I am looking at. >Which brand is better (if any), is Dolby S worth the extra money, what >features seem worthwile (fader/RMS/AMS/Maula Bias/etc). > >Thanks > >BTW> price ceiling is $250. All I can say is that you've ruled out the Nakamichi Dragons then ;-) They used to retail at around 2000UKP, best reference tape decks in da world (IMHO). (Wish I had one . . .) You can get some damned good single or double deck for under a ton if you look around, you couldn't do much worse than grab a copy of What Hi-Fi and check out the price index at the back, also some great 'phile style reviews to make you dribble a little. Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.demon.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue May 18 07:21:38 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 07:21:38 EDT Subject: OFF: Tape Deck. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: Mark P Lee > > You can get some damned good single or double deck for under > a ton if you look around, you couldn't do much worse than grab > a copy of What Hi-Fi and check out the price index at the back, > also some great 'phile style reviews to make you dribble a little. > > Mark. Mark, What is What Hi-Fi? A price guide to used audio gear? I haven't seen it around. Where do you usually find copies of it? Do they have a web site? thanks theo From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Tue May 18 09:25:17 1999 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 09:25:17 EDT Subject: MOTORHEAD TONIGHT NYC Message-ID: Motorhead will be performing in NYC tonight at Irving Plaza. Doors 7:30. Usual suspects will be there! regards, Bill Stewart From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue May 18 10:36:27 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:36:27 EDT Subject: OFF: looking for life Message-ID: In a message dated 5/18/99 2:21:35 AM, DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: <<.bekeley>> shoulda been "berkeley". my bad. "<>" From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Tue May 18 10:40:26 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:40:26 +0100 Subject: Fw: The People Vs Jerry Sadowitz Message-ID: ---------- > From: Masters, James (Ent) > To: 'hwind at globalnet.co.uk' > Subject: The People Vs Jerry Sadowitz > Date: 18 May 1999 14:25 > > Hawkwind-ers > > > Hope you are well. I'm working at LWT on a new series of The People Vs > > Jerry Sadowitz and am looking for to come on. It's the open forum debate > > comedy show with Sadowitz, the magician comedian. We are looking for > > people from all walks of life to come on and chat about anything they > > choose. > > > > We will be visiting London, Sheffield, Manchester, Newcastle, Glasgow, > > Liverpool, Birmingham, Cardiff, Oxford. > > > > As you can tell from the release, it'd be good to have a diverse selection > > of people and subjects and any Hawkwind fans are more than welcome. > > > > I've attached a couple of releases and my direct lines 0171 261 3601. > > Thanks for your help. Hope to hear from you. > > > > James <<...>> <<...>> > > From robotwarrior at HOTMAIL.COM Tue May 18 11:17:17 1999 From: robotwarrior at HOTMAIL.COM (Jeremy Cornell) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 08:17:17 PDT Subject: OFF: Alien Planetscapes and BORN to GO - NYC Spiral Lounge Sunday 5/23 Message-ID: I understand that this gig is on, possibly Escapade will be playing too. Thats gotta constitute a SpaceRock mini-festival! Anyone else from the list gonna go? For those who don't, apparently the spiral lounge is broadcasting the event live on the internet! Jer _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Tue May 18 07:31:59 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:31:59 +0000 Subject: MOTORHEAD TONIGHT NYC Message-ID: > Motorhead will be performing in NYC tonight at Irving Plaza. Doors 7:30. > Usual suspects will be there! > > regards, > Bill Stewart I knew there was a reason I hated living in Central PA! -- Nick From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 18 12:10:54 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:10:54 +0100 Subject: HW: IMAGES In-Reply-To: XXX's message of Sun, 16 May 1999 01:00:26 +0100 Message-ID: XXX writes: > Has anyone got the lyrics to IMAGES? > > Thanks > Kris My files have 'em thusly. As this is just what they sound like to my Hawkwind-deafened ears, any relation to the Real Lyrics may be purely coincidental. If you want a download of all my lyrics files then email me... -- A Friend of Fernando Poo IMAGES ====== ( - Brock/Davey/Wishart - ) Memories surround him Walking through the door Smells of dust and summer heat Embroidering his thoughts The seeing hand The face of fate The shifting scenes I can't explain The crazy fool who screams his pain As he tries to cheat life's final game Whispering from the balcony Lingers in the hall The well worn path of mortality Appearing here once more It's gone now It's gone now Twist the soul Turn Flesh to stone The fear and the anger Of the lost and alone Endless dreams of wasted days Slowly fade away Laughter echoes glittering There's no need to stay From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue May 18 12:19:17 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:19:17 +0100 Subject: Fw: The People Vs Jerry Sadowitz In-Reply-To: XXX's message of Tue, 18 May 1999 15:40:26 +0100 Message-ID: XXX writes: > ---------- > > From: Masters, James (Ent) > > To: 'hwind at globalnet.co.uk' > > Subject: The People Vs Jerry Sadowitz > > Date: 18 May 1999 14:25 > > > > Hawkwind-ers > > > > > Hope you are well. I'm working at LWT on a new series of The People Vs > > > Jerry Sadowitz and am looking for to come on. It's the open forum > debate > > > comedy show with Sadowitz, the magician comedian. We are looking for > > > people from all walks of life to come on and chat about anything they > > > choose. ...and then have the piss royally taken out of them. This lot apprached some Brit libertarian activists some time ago. It quickly beame clear that rather than a forum for amusing debate it was simply attempting to produce "humour" by ridiculing nonconformists and anyone with other than mainstream interests. Sadowitz had promise when he started out but he's now just a shock jock with a magic wand up his butt. FoFP From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Tue May 18 14:43:16 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:43:16 -0400 Subject: BOC: That ol' BOC magic at work again... Message-ID: Well, After much searching in the greater Albany area, not a single one of the major retailers of compact discs had the MoFi release. Somef them didn't even know it was out!! So do not shop at these places: Coconuts, Record Town, For Your Entertainment if BOC ye seek. (I think they're owned by the same bloddy company anyway. I hate music monopolies) Has anyone else been as unsuccessful as I this midlle day in May? Kill them all if you wish, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From tgn at GATE.NET Tue May 18 14:37:20 1999 From: tgn at GATE.NET (Timothy G. Northrup) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:37:20 -0400 Subject: That ol' BOC magic at work again... Message-ID: Jason -- If you still haven't found it ... I used to live up there (now I'm in sunny Florida), and used to have good luck at Borders books on Wolf Road -- they had a pretty good selection of CD's. There was another book store in Crossgates that used to carry a decent collection of BOC discs, but I can't remember the name ... begins with an "L"? .... maybe? Media Play used to carry some good stuff also, but I'm not sure you have any of those any more. Good luck! -- Tim On Tuesday, May 18, 1999 2:43 PM, Bolts of Ungodly Vision [SMTP:js3619 at WIZVAX.NET] wrote: > Well, > After much searching in the greater Albany area, not a single one of the > major retailers of compact discs had the MoFi release. Somef them didn't > even know it was out!! > > So do not shop at these places: Coconuts, Record Town, For Your Entertainment > if BOC ye seek. (I think they're owned by the same bloddy company anyway. I > hate music monopolies) > > Has anyone else been as unsuccessful as I this midlle day in May? > > Kill them all if you wish, > Jason > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." > -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Tim Northrup (TimNorthrup at CSi.Com) ICQ #3835296 From antisol at HOTMAIL.COM Tue May 18 14:38:36 1999 From: antisol at HOTMAIL.COM (The Automind) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:38:36 PDT Subject: MOTORHEAD TONIGHT NYC Message-ID: >From: "" >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Subject: Re: MOTORHEAD TONIGHT NYC >Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:31:59 +0000 > > > Motorhead will be performing in NYC tonight at Irving Plaza. Doors >7:30. > > Usual suspects will be there! > > > > regards, > > Bill Stewart > >I knew there was a reason I hated living in Central PA! > >-- Nick I'm seeing them Friday in the hillariously named town of Lackawanna NY! There's another one to the right of it called 'Olean', as in the fat substitute that causes anal leakage. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Tue May 18 23:08:06 1999 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:08:06 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Any news on new album? Message-ID: >Just wondering if anyone hooked up to AOL might know if there's been any >new info on the double CD at tBS folder. Last I heard, it sounded like it >would be out in June. The last song was mixed last night. I still have to sequence disk 2 and there is some layout and credit things to finish but we're still looking at having it out in late June - early July! Al From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Tue May 18 23:34:31 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:34:31 -0700 Subject: BRAIN: Any news on new album? Message-ID: >>Just wondering if anyone hooked up to AOL might know if there's been any >>new info on the double CD at tBS folder. Last I heard, it sounded like it >>would be out in June. > >The last song was mixed last night. I still have to sequence disk 2 and >there is some layout and credit things to finish but we're still looking at >having it out in late June - early July! >Al Sweeeeeeeeeet! I'll set aside a space next to Malpractise for it tonight. ;-) Brian From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Wed May 19 07:11:30 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:11:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: What Hi-Fi In-Reply-To: <199905190901.FAA08862@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Wed May 19 07:42:56 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 07:42:56 -0400 Subject: What Hi-Fi Message-ID: > Monthly magazine - all new stuff + reviews etc. > The web site can be found at? http://www.whathifi.com/ > and at most larger newsagents for about 2.95UKp a go > each month, I'll root out my old copy which did a review > a couple of months ago for exactlt what you asked, single > and twin decks for 'budget' prices. > Thanks, > 'budget' => a six letter word for "cheap bastard" From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed May 19 09:34:35 1999 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 09:34:35 EDT Subject: MOTORHEAD SELLOUT NYC Message-ID: Motorhead sold out Irving Plaza, in NYC, last night with over two thousand people showing up. This was Motorheads first proper headlining gig in NYC in about 10 yrs, at a large venue. The place was completely nuts, bordering on OUT OF CONTROL. Motorhead came on at 11PM (an hour late) to a wildly drugged and drunken crowd, shortly thereafter, the AC went down, and with the help of 3 hi powered strobes, they started dropping like flies. Lemmy was in his glory. They opened with Bomber followed by No Class. After that everything kicked in for me and its kinda wavy. Metropolis, the Chase, Sacrifice, Stay Clean, Orgasmotron, Civil War,. This is the best Motorhead Ive seen since Phil Taylor, Fast Eddy Clarke days, and thats going back some. Good, Clean, Wholesome, entertainment at a price you can afford...bring the wife and kids...well maybe not. regards, Bill Stewart From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed May 19 09:46:28 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:46:28 +0100 Subject: MOTORHEAD SELLOUT NYC Message-ID: On ons 19 maj 1999 09.34 +0000 "Bill Stewart" wrote: > This is the best Motorhead Ive seen since Phil Taylor, Fast Eddy Clarke > days, and thats going back some. Good, Clean, Wholesome, entertainment at a > price you can afford...bring the wife and kids...well maybe not. Obviously I never saw the "classic" lineup live, but I've been stoutly maintaining that the current band is at least as good if not better. They just rock :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From christou at AS.ARIZONA.EDU Wed May 19 10:55:09 1999 From: christou at AS.ARIZONA.EDU (Julian Christou) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 08:55:09 -0600 Subject: Hawkwind Sound Files Message-ID: I've not found any HW (and related) mp3 files on the web as yet and I've been searching since Jan. I have come across web pages and FTP sites which have RIOI (i.e. boots) of other bands, (eg Floyd, Genesis, Phish & of course the Dead) and was wondering if the HW list know of anything similar. There are a fair number of CD boots out there which could easily be ripped into MP3s and put onto a server for downloading. Stuff which most of us are never likely to find. as for the legal issues, well, these are not officially released albums and therefore do not rip off the artist for royalties which we certainly wouldn't want to do. It would be up to those who have bought the boots to be willing to share them with the rest of us. out of their generosity. I dedicated ftp site could end up being a HW (& related) boot archive. What think the rest of you? Ciao Julian From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Wed May 19 11:46:55 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 16:46:55 +0100 Subject: BOCish/OFFish - BRUCE FAIRBAIRN RIP Message-ID: Veteran producer Bruce Fairbairn, who worked with such notable bands as Aerosmith, Van Halen, AC/DC, Kiss, the Cranberries, and INXS among many others, was found dead at his home in Vancouver yesterday of unknown causes. He was 49. Fairbairn had been expected at an afternoon recording session with '70s art rockers Yes at his Armoury Studios and uncharacteristically failed to show up. Studio manager Sheryl Preston drove to his home and discovered his body on the floor of his bedroom. There were no apparent signs of injury or trauma. Fairbairn began his career as a horn player in the Canadian band Prism and went on to produce that band, as well as local favorites Loverboy, before going on to record such artists as Krokus and Blue Oyster Cult. He was often assisted by Bob Rock, who later established his own career as a rock producer. In 1986, Fairbairn produced Bon Jovi's breakthough album "Slippery When Wet," which set him on a course as one of the most successful producers of the era. He recently completed an album with the horn-laden Atomic Fireballs, which Fairbairn said took him back to his "brass roots." The current sessions for Yes (who were in the midst of mixing a new album) will continue after a brief break, with the bandmembers taking over the controls. -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 19 13:11:24 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:11:24 GMT Subject: OFF: psych/garage etc zine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi all, this was just advertised on the Bomp list and thought some of it might be of interest to the psych/garage inclined list members: UGLY THINGS #17 will be out round about May 28. It?s a monster 160-pager, wrapped in a screaming full color cover ? by far the biggest and best issue yet! INSIDE: THE PRETTY THINGS, The Real Kids, The Missing Links, The Damnation of Adam Blessing, Big Boy Pete Miller, Dock Boggs, Andre Williams, Tony Rivers & the Castaways, The Tiles, Love, Downliners Sect, Fred Neil & hundreds of reviews. $7 postpaid (US/Canada), $10 (overseas by airmail), $12 (Japan & Australasia) The remarkable resurrection of the Pretty Things provides the cover story and central theme this time around. As well as the full behind-the-scenes action on their great new album Rage Before Beauty, there?s a round-up on their recently reissued back catalog and some never before seen vintage pix that are beyond cool. You also get the first installment of a huge two-part article on the Real Kids, plus major features on the Damnation of Adam Blessing, Aussie ?60s punks the Missing Links, British beat/psych crackpot Big Boy Pete, moonshine banjo-plunker Dock Boggs, and an hysterical in-depth interview with R&B icon Andre Williams. Co-stars in this madness include Love, the Black Cat Bones, Fred Neil, the Downliners Sect, the Deviants, the Velvet Underground, and German beat unknowns the Tiles. All this, plus ?The 100 Greatest Worldwide Punk Rock 45s (in order of greatness)? and our biggest ever review section with the lowdown on hundreds of reissues. How to order? USA/Canada: $7. Overseas $10 (by airmail). Japan/Australasia: $12 (by airmail). Overseas readers need to send money in US dollars (cash or IMO). Send to: Ugly Things, 3707 Fifth Ave #145, San Diego, CA 92103, USA, or look for it at clued-in record and magazine outlets. Postman Pat! Is a twat! Period Pains! We're insane! - The Period Pains From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Wed May 19 13:43:48 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:43:48 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Any news on new album? Message-ID: Kewl! What's the name of the album gonna-b? > ---------- > From: Brian Halligan[SMTP:bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 11:34 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: BRAIN: Any news on new album? > > >>Just wondering if anyone hooked up to AOL might know if there's been any > >>new info on the double CD at tBS folder. Last I heard, it sounded like > it > >>would be out in June. > > > >The last song was mixed last night. I still have to sequence disk 2 and > >there is some layout and credit things to finish but we're still looking > at > >having it out in late June - early July! > >Al > > Sweeeeeeeeeet! I'll set aside a space next to Malpractise for it tonight. > ;-) > > Brian > From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Wed May 19 19:27:46 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:27:46 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Sound Files Message-ID: I asked Dave once if i could put up a site with short sound samples (no full versions.) He thought it was a great idea, and told me to go ahead. But as I had not yet heard of MP3, I quickly canned it after seeing a 30 second sample fill over 8 MB on my HDD. I may do it now that I have an MP3 encoder. As for full versions, bad idea. But I can't see the band getting upset over bootlegging the bootleggers. My guess, if they stopped to think about it, they would probably approve... Just my guess, tho'. RJ -----Original Message----- From: Julian Christou To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 11:33 AM Subject: Re: Hawkwind Sound Files >I've not found any HW (and related) mp3 files on the web as yet and I've >been searching since Jan. I have come across web pages and FTP sites >which have RIOI (i.e. boots) of other bands, (eg Floyd, Genesis, Phish & >of course the Dead) and was wondering if the HW list know of anything >similar. There are a fair number of CD boots out there which could >easily be ripped into MP3s and put onto a server for downloading. Stuff >which most of us are never likely to find. as for the legal issues, >well, these are not officially released albums and therefore do not rip >off the artist for royalties which we certainly wouldn't want to do. It >would be up to those who have bought the boots to be willing to share >them with the rest of us. out of their generosity. I dedicated ftp site >could end up being a HW (& related) boot archive. > >What think the rest of you? > >Ciao >Julian From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Wed May 19 20:01:05 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:01:05 +0900 Subject: OFF: Audiophilia Message-ID: While conversation seems to be circling around audio media, here's a question. I have a heap of dead valves (that's tubes to the transatlantic brethren) that used to be a Dansette with a 78 rpm speed. I have a load of 78 rpm records. Does anyone happen to know if I could record these discs onto the hard drive at 45 rpm and use something like Sound Forge to reconvert the speed for burning onto CD-R? I know the stylus is a different shape, but that's deal with-able. -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Thu May 20 04:48:07 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:48:07 +0900 Subject: OFF: SETI@home Message-ID: If any of you are signed up to the SETI at home mailing list waiting to be told that the software is ready to download, it is. The notification didn't happen. -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Thu May 20 01:20:52 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 05:20:52 +0000 Subject: MOTORHEAD SELLOUT NYC Message-ID: > Obviously I never saw the "classic" lineup live, but I've been > stoutly maintaining that the current band is at least as good if not > better. They just rock :) > > Cheers, > Carl This long-time Motorhead fan is in total agreement here. "Overnight Sensation" and "Snakebite Love" are INCREDIBLE discs. For some reason, the band seems to rock better as a three-piece. And Zoom and Mikkey (sp?) definitely have a handle on what it means to be Motorheadbangers! -- Nick From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Thu May 20 08:35:20 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:35:20 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 19 May 1999 to 20 May 1999 In-Reply-To: <199905200901.FAA12633@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu May 20 12:32:11 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 17:32:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Images, Lemmy, Brixton Message-ID: Hi, the 25 Years On box set inlay gives the Images lyrics as: Memories surround him walking through the door Smells of dust and summer heat embroidering his thoughts Singing hand, the face of fate, the shifting scenes I can't explain The crazy fool who screams his pain as he tries to cheat life's final game. Whispering from the balcony lingers in the hall The well worn path of mortality appearing here once more It's gone now, it's gone now. twists the soul, turns flesh to stone. The fear and the anger of the lost and alone, Endless dreams of wasted days slowly fade away Laughter echoes glittering there's now need to stay Lemmy appeared at Brixton in '89 and, if I remember correctly, joined the band for the encore of Master of the Universe followed by Welcome to the Future. ta for now, Nick From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Fri May 21 14:08:33 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 14:08:33 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: BoH featured at CDNow Message-ID: Check out http://www.cdnow.com BoH is listed as one of today's (5/20) picks! >Part of our Ripe and Ready sale. Blues fused with metal, prog, funk, power chords and sharp lyrics. Brian ----------------------------------- Brian T. Halligan Copywriter bthalligan at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/index.html ----------------------------------- From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu May 20 23:32:08 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:32:08 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind Sound Files In-Reply-To: <01bea24f$33c57fd0$ada58fcc@pxr5> Message-ID: Hi there > I asked Dave once if i could put up a site with short sound samples > (no full versions.) He thought it was a great idea, and told me to go > ahead. > But as I had not yet heard of MP3, I quickly canned it after seeing a 30 > second > sample fill over 8 MB on my HDD. > I may do it now that I have an MP3 encoder. > As for full versions, bad idea. But I can't see the band getting > upset over > bootlegging > the bootleggers. My guess, if they stopped to think about it, they would > probably approve... > How about a site with some of the unreleased live and studio recordings (ie Make What You Can, The full version of Phone Home, Elliott, etc..) in MP3 format. If there wasn't enough room on the server, maybe some other member won't mind lending some space, or the site could have different tracks each week or two? William PS Could also put some other stuff, such as the tracks recorded by former members that never made it to official releases, such as Robert Calvert' poetry readings, the outtakes from Nik Turner's Xitintoday, and the other Michael Moorcock recordings. From SHLL at NOVO.DK Fri May 21 05:44:25 1999 From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:44:25 +0200 Subject: HW: News? Message-ID: Hej igen, I have been off line for 5 weeks because my wife had a little girl. All is going great. She is getting large does of SPace ROck early in life to prevent her from becoming a Spice Girl... Bionaut was really great to play when she was very young. Anyway, has anyone reviewed the Dawn of Hawkwind or BBC Archives discs? IF so, what was the opinion of the group?? Any final word on the German Hakwfan Gathering in Hamburg? IS Bedoiun Playing? Is is Spacehead or Huw Lloyd Langton? I can't make it this year but I am curious as it was a really excellent time last year. SCott ObCD- Peter Tosh- Honorary Citizen 3CD box set From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri May 21 05:49:58 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:49:58 +0100 Subject: HW: News? Message-ID: On fre 21 maj 1999 11.44 +0200 "SHLL (Scott Heller)" wrote: > I have been off line for 5 weeks because my wife had a little girl. > All is going great. She is getting large does of SPace ROck early in life to > prevent her from becoming a Spice Girl... Congratulations (again) on your new Space Girl :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri May 21 06:51:25 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:51:25 GMT Subject: OFF: tapeswap Message-ID: can't locate andy g's email addy so unfortunately this appears onlist. the tape's done. Postman Pat! Is a twat! Period Pains! We're insane! - The Period Pains From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri May 21 06:51:37 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:51:37 GMT Subject: OFF: HW + Foobal In-Reply-To: <00e701bea2de$68244740$d947a8c2@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: Hi all, Having its origins on a football website, this may seem like one of those strangely inappropriate posts that people decide to forward to the list but keep reading and i'm sure you will spot the relevance. E-Mail Of The Day: Children! Avoid Alcohol! After an exceptionally long and intense session of drinking fun sponsored by Mr Bud Weiser and Uncle Merlot, I awoke with the certain realisation that, next season, Arsenal are going to finish seventh. So clear and unequivocal was this premonition that I immediately legged it to the nearest bookmaker and placed a substantial wedge of moolah on the fact. Reasons for their impending failure? Without warning, and almost overnight, the back four will become ordinary and make lots of mistakes. It's going to happen sometime and Arsene Wenger has no adequate replacements to introduce as soon as it does happen. The game is littered with former great players who suddenly become awful. Ian Rush comes to mind - finishes one season as a top striker, plays the next like Albert Steptoe. Without their superb defence, Arsenal are not equipped to score enough goals to win enough games to be a championship threat. Nicolas Anelka will go and, even if he doesn't, he's got to be more consistant and contribute more to the game in general. Dennis Bergkamp will have another moody, in-and-out season. Why he doesn't just drive to overseas games or go on a bus, I can't imagine. The midfield will be suspended for 20% of the season. Nwankwo Kanu is their saving grace but next season, everyone knows what to expect and he'll get his a*** kicked a little more by defenders. They'll still play well, they'll still look good, just less and less often. They have no strength in depth. In fact, they have very little depth - strong or otherwise. Their demise will end with Wenger leaving and going back to playing that SS Officer in war movies who does something terrible with tweezers,salt and electricity I'm sure this is all going to come true. This was a bonafide premonition. I also dreamed that Sunderland signed the whole of long defunct blues band Savoy Brown as a new defence and had a large cooking pot in the bar into which Hawkwind's dancer, Stacia, was placed, along with some okra and, perhaps most remarkably, a pair of socks taken from the feet of Samuel Taylor Coleridge. It was a hell of a night on the drink, mind. John Nicholson, North Yorkshire Postman Pat! Is a twat! Period Pains! We're insane! - The Period Pains From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri May 21 07:10:40 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:10:40 +0100 Subject: tapeswap In-Reply-To: <37483a4f.2759292@smtp.freeserve.net> Message-ID: No problemo! There's still about ten folks out there who haven't notified me, and the deadline's approaching fast... - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of andrew > Sent: 21 May 1999 11:51 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: OFF: tapeswap > > > can't locate andy g's email addy so unfortunately this appears onlist. > > the tape's done. > > > Postman Pat! Is a twat! > Period Pains! We're insane! > - The Period Pains > From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Fri May 21 07:23:17 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 07:23:17 -0400 Subject: tapeswap Message-ID: Just finished the tape - woo hoo! > ---------- > From: Andy Gilham[SMTP:Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: Friday, May 21, 1999 7:10 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: tapeswap > > No problemo! There's still about ten folks out there who haven't notified > me, and the deadline's approaching fast... > > - Andy > > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of andrew > > Sent: 21 May 1999 11:51 > > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > > Subject: OFF: tapeswap > > > > > > can't locate andy g's email addy so unfortunately this appears onlist. > > > > the tape's done. > > > > > > Postman Pat! Is a twat! > > Period Pains! We're insane! > > - The Period Pains > > > From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri May 21 07:28:36 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:28:36 GMT Subject: OFF: sad news Message-ID: Michael Phillips, the singer of 80s Aussie psych gods Tyrnaround has killed himself. If that wasn't bad enough Steve Clark, bassist from 60s English psych gods Kaleidoscope was knocked down and killed by a bus in South London. andrew Postman Pat! Is a twat! Period Pains! We're insane! - The Period Pains From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 21 09:39:13 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 14:39:13 +0100 Subject: OFF: sad news In-Reply-To: <374a4154.4556798@smtp.freeserve.net> Message-ID: In article <374a4154.4556798 at smtp.freeserve.net>, andrew writes >If that wasn't bad enough Steve Clark, bassist from 60s English psych >gods Kaleidoscope was knocked down and killed by a bus in South >London. I'm gutted. Fuck. -- Jon From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri May 21 10:20:21 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:20:21 EDT Subject: OFF: sad news Message-ID: In a message dated 5/21/99 9:40:48 AM, jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK writes: << 60s English psych >gods Kaleidoscope >> condolences, etc. and though i guess this'll be followed by a correction, which i'll appreciate, was there not also a west coast late '60s band by this name? "<>" From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Fri May 21 10:31:49 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel kew) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:31:49 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton 1990 Message-ID: >..I can also remember Lemmy jamming at one of the Brixton gigs..I remember the stage being lit mostly in blue light...The back projections didnt come out too well under it !!< Thank goodness for that I thought I was starting to lose my marbles, Well those few I've got left any way. I didn't pay much attention to the back projections that year too busy jostling down the front. Some clown threw up all over my lab coat. From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Fri May 21 10:38:05 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel kew) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:38:05 +0100 Subject: Fw: Beware of e-mail bearing gifts.... Message-ID: Just got this and thought it worth a giggle!! -----Original Message----- From: Martyn To: J BArton ; ciaran ; cardiacs-chat at anyware.co.uk ; dailywaffle at egroups.com ; nigel.kew at virgin.net ; mturner at barkers.co.uk ; mick.l at drp.co.uk ; SB-5076 at mail.necgroup.co.uk Date: 20 May 1999 11:56 Subject: Beware of e-mail bearing gifts.... >!!!New Virus Warning!!! > >> If you receive any sort of 'work' at all, whether via email, >> internet or simply handed to you by a colleague...DO NOT OPEN IT. >> This has been circulating around our building for months and those >> who have been tempted to open it or even look at it have found that >> their social life is deleted and their brain ceases to function >> properly. If you do encounter 'work' via email, then to purge the >> virus, send an email to your boss with the words 'I've had enough >> of your shit...I'm off down the pub'. The 'work' should >> automatically be forgotten by your brain and your career will now >> be successfully destroyed. >> >> If you receive 'work' in paper-document form, simply lift the >> document and drag to your waste paper bin and deposit there. Put on >> your hat and coat and skip to the nearest bar with two friends and >> order three pints of beer. After repeating this action 14 times, >> you will find that 'work' will no longer be of any relavance to you >> and that 'Scooby Doo' was the greatest children's cartoon ever. >> >> Send this message to everyone in your mailbox. If you do not have >> anyone in your mailbox, then I'm afraid the 'work' virus has >> already corrupted your life. >> >> Go out and get some friends. > >Snigger, > >Martyn From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Fri May 21 10:42:01 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel kew) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:42:01 +0100 Subject: tapeswap Message-ID: Sorry I hav'nt got a clue what this tape swap business is all about since i've only just joined the group ('who invited him away' I hear you cry) please let me know before the deadline is up. DOC........ From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Fri May 21 11:19:56 1999 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:19:56 +0100 Subject: HW: Pre-release of Bedouin Video Message-ID: I still have a couple of copies left of the the Bedouin video if anybody is interested. Cheers for now, Guy T. guy.thomas at london.entoil.com From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri May 21 11:53:31 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 15:53:31 GMT Subject: OFF: sad news In-Reply-To: <5e13e42d.2476c5a5@aol.com> Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM stopped watching TV and did something more interesting instead: >In a message dated 5/21/99 9:40:48 AM, jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK writes: > ><< 60s English psych >>gods Kaleidoscope >> > >condolences, etc. >and though i guess this'll be followed by a correction, which i'll >appreciate, was there not also a west coast late '60s band by this name? there was indeed. 'Side Trips' (1967) and 'A Beacon From Mars' (1968) being there best known albums. I've never heard 'owt by them (well i did once but i've forgotten it entirely). They seem to be almost as well loved as their UK counterparts (tho' no relation betwixt the two) and people rate their stuff quite highly. andrew Postman Pat! Is a twat! Period Pains! We're insane! - The Period Pains From christou at AS.ARIZONA.EDU Fri May 21 12:15:32 1999 From: christou at AS.ARIZONA.EDU (Julian Christou) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:15:32 -0600 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 20 May 1999 to 21 May 1999 Message-ID: Certainly MP3s are a good way to store the sound files being relatively cheap on disk space. The idea of short sound samples of official relaeses is good and the "boot the bootleggers" is ceratainly a way to make the live recordings available for the general fan base (at least those with computer access) w/o paying exhorbitant prices. I know that there is a circulation of live recordings between the list members and an mp3 site would be a boon to us all. What is Dave's position on the bootleg situation? A site with band approved rare stuff as mentioned below would also be great. Julian > Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 11:32:08 +0800 > From: William Duffy > Subject: Re: Hawkwind Sound Files > > Hi there > > > I asked Dave once if i could put up a site with short sound samples > > (no full versions.) He thought it was a great idea, and told me to go > > ahead. > > But as I had not yet heard of MP3, I quickly canned it after seeing a 30 > > second > > sample fill over 8 MB on my HDD. > > I may do it now that I have an MP3 encoder. > > As for full versions, bad idea. But I can't see the band getting > > upset over > > bootlegging > > the bootleggers. My guess, if they stopped to think about it, they would > > probably approve... > > > How about a site with some of the unreleased live and studio recordings (ie > Make What You Can, The full version of Phone Home, Elliott, etc..) in MP3 > format. If there wasn't enough room on the server, maybe some other member > won't mind lending some space, or the site could have different tracks each > week or two? > > William > > PS Could also put some other stuff, such as the tracks recorded by former > members that never made it to official releases, such as Robert Calvert' > poetry readings, the outtakes from Nik Turner's Xitintoday, and the other > Michael Moorcock recordings. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri May 21 12:43:47 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:43:47 EDT Subject: OFF: sad news Message-ID: In a message dated 5/21/99 11:53:27 AM, andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: <In a message dated 5/21/99 9:40:48 AM, jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK writes: > ><< 60s English psych >>gods Kaleidoscope >> > ===at which point DASLUD at AOL.COM interjected==== >condolences, etc. >and though i guess this'll be followed by a correction, which i'll >appreciate, was there not also a west coast late '60s band by this name? ===at which point ANDREW at DELUMINATE etc continues=== there was indeed. 'Side Trips' (1967) and 'A Beacon From Mars' (1968) being there best known albums. I've never heard 'owt by them (well i did once but i've forgotten it entirely). They seem to be almost as well loved as their UK counterparts (tho' no relation betwixt the two) and people rate their stuff quite highly. >> ===at which point DASLUD at AOL.COM responded with=== yeah, some folks in the US kaleidoscope would become more visible later...um, such as david lindley? not ry cooder, right, but lindley? or was it both cooder and lindley? yeah, seems i heard 'em w/some frequency on der "underground" radio, a few decades and a zillion brain cells ago. dunno from the UK 'scope, but they sound cool arigato! "<>" ps> recent/current anime watchables: REVOLUTIONARY GIRL UTENA (weirdest goddam cartoon series i ever seen) THE VISION OF ESCAFLOWNE (the former "weirdest..." etc) CARD CAPTOR SAKURA KAITOU (mysterious thief) ST.TAIL MIRACLE GIRLS i dunno why it is, but the anime for boys doesnt appeal much to me...martial arts/giant robots/variations on "star wars"...nah... but beginning w/ SAILOR MOON (says he who owns all 200 episodes), the superhero variation shows aimed at girls are great stuff! great characters, more involving stories, wider range of emotional possibilities...shoujo anime! From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri May 21 12:54:49 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:54:49 EDT Subject: BOC-L Digest - 20 May 1999 to 21 May 1999 Message-ID: In a message dated 5/21/99 12:29:48 PM, christou at AS.ARIZONA.EDU writes: <> throughout this week's discussion on this matter there's been no mention at all of all the material available, at least one entire show and more, at: http://punkcast.com/2/ ...as had been discussed the week before... is it a matter of sound quality? i went back and got 46 mins or so and it sounded alright to me on the generic realplayer; would no doubt sound better on a better edition realplayer.. .not that i'd be mistaken for an audiophile; if i wanna hear it, quality be darned. "make what you can" sounds to me to be a rough draft of "it's so easy", from the "space ritual" tour..and primarily serves as a suggestion that this entire show was recorded....huh, mr. brock? "<>" From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri May 21 01:06:45 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:06:45 +0800 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 20 May 1999 to 21 May 1999 In-Reply-To: <5b4af11.2476e9d9@aol.com> Message-ID: >"make what you can" sounds to me to be a rough draft of "it's so easy", from >the "space ritual" tour..and primarily serves as a suggestion that this >entire show was recorded....huh, mr. brock? I haven't noticed any similarity between the 2 songs, as Make What You Can is faster paced, and the lyrics seem different. I haven't actually compared the 2 songs before though, but will do now. I may discover some similarities if I do. William From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri May 21 01:09:37 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:09:37 +0800 Subject: OFF: Chemical Brothers Message-ID: Hi there I heard a new track by The Chemical Brothers called "Hey Boy Hey Girl", which is very, very Hawkwind sounding. Can someone tell me if this is what they sound like generally, as I liked this track? William From antisol at HOTMAIL.COM Fri May 21 13:13:18 1999 From: antisol at HOTMAIL.COM (The Automind) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 10:13:18 PDT Subject: OFF: sa(d news)ilor moon Message-ID: >From: DASLUD at AOL.COM >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Subject: Re: OFF: sad news >Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 12:43:47 EDT ... >ps> recent/current anime watchables: >REVOLUTIONARY GIRL UTENA (weirdest goddam cartoon series i ever seen) >THE VISION OF ESCAFLOWNE (the former "weirdest..." etc) >CARD CAPTOR SAKURA >KAITOU (mysterious thief) ST.TAIL >MIRACLE GIRLS > >i dunno why it is, but the anime for boys doesnt appeal much to >me...martial >arts/giant robots/variations on "star wars"...nah... > >but beginning w/ SAILOR MOON (says he who owns all 200 episodes), the >superhero variation shows aimed at girls are great stuff! great characters, >more involving stories, wider range of emotional possibilities...shoujo >anime! > yeah! that's right! Sailor moon (in japanese) kicks ass! did you know that you can download entire episodes from www.starhedgehog.com? and I've always wanted someone to sneak some of the transformation sequences into a trippy HW light show! _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri May 21 13:22:38 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:22:38 +0100 Subject: HW: News? In-Reply-To: <340480.3136272598@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 21 May 1999, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > On fre 21 maj 1999 11.44 +0200 "SHLL (Scott Heller)" wrote: > > I have been off line for 5 weeks because my wife had a little girl. > > All is going great. She is getting large does of SPace ROck early in life > to > > prevent her from becoming a Spice Girl... > > Congratulations (again) on your new Space Girl :) Dammit Carl, I was going to do that one! Benedict's favourites so far would appear to be 'Sju', 'Eatin' Dust' and of course 'Space Ritual'. At the suggestion of a list-member, I am hunting for a special cocoon... Yours, Jon From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Fri May 21 13:22:10 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:22:10 +0100 Subject: OFF: Chemical Brothers In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 21 May 1999 13:09:37 +0800." <000101bea348$1fbe71a0$9f433bcb@xl5> Message-ID: > Hi there > > I heard a new track by The Chemical Brothers called "Hey Boy Hey Girl", > which is very, very Hawkwind sounding. Can someone tell me if this is what > they sound like generally, as I liked this track? Not sure about the HW sound in there, but its definitely like a bunch of their other material. IMHO, its a fair track ruined by excessive use of the title sample, which just becomes annoying from about 1 minute in. I guess its me becoming an old fogey, but I notice these days that all these big tracks by the Chem Bros (& particularly Fat Boy Slim) start off promising but go absoutely nowhere for 4 minutes, looping about 15 seconds of sonic interest ad nauseum. Where's the dynamics and progression gone ? I mean plenty of HW songs chug along for 10 minutes but at least there's some variance to keep you occupied. Tim From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri May 21 13:27:37 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:27:37 EDT Subject: Buck's amp... In-Reply-To: <19990521171327.5857.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Well, I finally was able to give my new amp a serious workout last night. It's easy to see why BD uses this model. When I unpacked it and got it running, the first thing I played was the opening chords to OD'd On Life Itself. Surprise: sounded exactly like Cult Classic's version. This amp has tons of gain, but also excels at bluesy, classic rock sounds too, when you back off the gain a bit. Amp's a killer. Way to go, Buck... theo From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri May 21 01:40:22 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:40:22 +0800 Subject: OFF: Chemical Brothers In-Reply-To: <199905211722.SAA26495@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: > > I heard a new track by The Chemical Brothers called "Hey Boy Hey Girl", > > which is very, very Hawkwind sounding. Can someone tell me if > this is what > > they sound like generally, as I liked this track? > > Not sure about the HW sound in there, but its definitely like a > bunch of their > other material. > > IMHO, its a fair track ruined by excessive use of the title > sample, which just > becomes annoying from about 1 minute in. I guess its me becoming > an old fogey, > but I notice these days that all these big tracks by the Chem Bros (& > particularly Fat Boy Slim) start off promising but go absoutely > nowhere for 4 > minutes, looping about 15 seconds of sonic interest ad nauseum. > Where's the > dynamics and progression gone ? I mean plenty of HW songs chug > along for 10 > minutes but at least there's some variance to keep you occupied. > Thanks for the info. I found it very Hawkwindy, and a nice change to the usual crap that's played on the radio here in West Australia,a place that considers REM and Dire Straits as far too way out and experimental (Yes, it's that bad here). You do find decent music if you hunt around for it, but most of the general stores are full of the usual (Celine Dion, Kylie Minough, Boyzone, Spice Girls, etc..). The same shops usually put groups like Dire Straits & REM under progressive, and don't have a clue about music. One of my friends even had trouble convincing one of these stores that there is (or was) a group called Emerson, Lake & Palmer. William From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Fri May 21 15:46:28 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel kew) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 20:46:28 +0100 Subject: OFF: Chemical Brothers Message-ID: Another band using sonicy looping these days are Blur especially 'Bugman' off '13', 'On your own' and 'theme from retro' both off 'Blurred'. They also have been getting into that fuzz box feeling. DOC........ From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Fri May 21 17:08:48 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 17:08:48 -0400 Subject: BOC: freinds romans countrymen- lend me your MoFi Message-ID: For all you hep cats with the retooled 2fer, How is it different? are T&M's background chatter more discernable? Is it fuller? does the first LP finally receive auditory justice? hows the booklet? iquiring, impatient w/UPS minds want to know, Jason From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Fri May 21 20:15:33 1999 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 20:15:33 -0400 Subject: tBS: Piece of Work! Message-ID: The new Brain Surgeons two CD set is finally done. It's called Piece of Work and the songs on the first disk are: Biloxi Rain, Rain On The Road (Again) Practise Make Perfect Swamp Thing Alpha And Omega More Than Truth Hot Dog Man Bad Hair Day Last Angry Woman Way of the World Pink Roses Disk two has yet to be sequenced and the final version of the album cover still needs some touch up but we are moving ahead. From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Fri May 21 21:04:41 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 21:04:41 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Sound Files Message-ID: How about a List-owned site, mirrored on several member's webspace? Each site would only need maintain one or two files... They would all appear to be the same page at multiple addy's. Anyone hear ever done anything like this? From s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Fri May 21 21:39:17 1999 From: s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Patrick C.) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 11:39:17 +1000 Subject: OFF: Chemical Brothers Message-ID: Sitting in the arse-end of Queensland myself, I would have to say that I haven't listened to Australian radio for about two years. IMHO, Midnight Oil's new album `Redneck Wonderland' is the best thing that has happened in Australian music in a long time, apart from that I rely totally on import music. -Mr C. ---------- > From: William Duffy >> Date: Friday, May 21, 1999 3:40 PM > Thanks for the info. I found it very Hawkwindy, and a nice change to the > usual crap that's played on the radio here in West Australia,a place that > considers REM and Dire Straits as far too way out and experimental (Yes, > it's that bad here). > You do find decent music if you hunt around for it, but most of the general > stores are full of the usual (Celine Dion, Kylie Minough, Boyzone, Spice > Girls, etc..). The same shops usually put groups like Dire Straits & REM > under progressive, and don't have a clue about music. One of my friends even > had trouble convincing one of these stores that there is (or was) a group > called Emerson, Lake & Palmer. > > William From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Fri May 21 21:09:00 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 21:09:00 -0400 Subject: tBS: Piece of Work! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 08:15 PM 5/21/99 -0400, Al wrote: >The new Brain Surgeons two CD set is finally done. It's called Piece of >Work and the songs on the first disk are: >Biloxi >Rain, Rain >On The Road (Again) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Is this what I think it is??? ;-) >Practise Make Perfect >Swamp Thing >Alpha And Omega >More Than Truth >Hot Dog Man >Bad Hair Day >Last Angry Woman >Way of the World >Pink Roses > >Disk two has yet to be sequenced and the final version of the album cover >still needs some touch up but we are moving ahead. Is it another Brodner cover? I wonder what he would come up with for a title like Piece of Work? Definately Ready 2 Rock, Brian ----------------------------------- Brian T. Halligan Copywriter bthalligan at earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/index.html ----------------------------------- From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat May 22 02:02:28 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 02:02:28 EDT Subject: BOC-L Digest - 20 May 1999 to 21 May 1999 Message-ID: In a message dated 5/21/99 1:08:47 PM, xl5 at IINET.NET.AU writes: << I haven't noticed any similarity between the 2 songs, as Make What You Can is faster paced, and the lyrics seem different. I haven't actually compared the 2 songs before though, but will do now. I may discover some similarities if I do. >> actually, yeah, after i submitted that i wished i had worded it differently; "make what you can" was more of a precursor to "it's so easy" (or something,) i think anyway...same tempo...not a number they pursued, apparently; i think the recording might be a little before the "space ritual" tour, like fall '72...sure would like to hear the whole gig there, dave... "<>" ps> you want a comparison? one i'm fond of is "the golden void" and "cowgirl in the sand" (grin) From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sat May 22 11:19:09 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 16:19:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Badam Fest Message-ID: I just heard from the BADAM '99 Festival at Buxton to say that Bedouin and Magic Mushroom Band have both been confirmed so it's looking good! cheers jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat May 22 13:18:52 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 13:18:52 -0400 Subject: OFF: Ozrics dates...Episode II Message-ID: Hi Folks...First set of rescheduled dates are as follows... Jul 8 1999 9:00PM THEATRE OF LIVING ARTS PHILADELPHIA PA Jul 16 1999 9:00PM ODEON CLEVELAND OH Jul 17 1999 8:00PM MAJESTIC THEATRE DETROIT MI Jul 18 1999 9:00PM HOUSE OF BLUES CHICAGO IL Jul 20 1999 9:00PM SHANK HALL MILWAUKEE WI Jul 24 1999 9:00PM FOX THEATRE & CAFE BOULDER CO Jul 25 1999 9:00PM FOX THEATRE & CAFE BOULDER CO Keith H. (FAA) From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sun May 23 04:24:13 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 09:24:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Sound Files and Disk Space Message-ID: Well I've got 50mb of soace lying unused on EasySpace. If you decide to go for it, I'm happy to donate it. Let me know. SAH -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun May 23 11:50:25 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 16:50:25 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Sound Files Message-ID: On fre 21 maj 1999 21.04 -0400 Sprawl wrote: > How about a List-owned site, mirrored on several member's webspace? > Each site would only need maintain one or two files... > They would all appear to be the same page at multiple addy's. > Anyone hear ever done anything like this? New BOC-L program HAWK at home harnesses the power of the internet, putting blank disc space all over the planet to use to make blanga more widely available to the whole universe ... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri May 21 16:49:56 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 21:49:56 +0100 Subject: HW: News? Message-ID: On fre 21 maj 1999 18.22 +0100 "Jonathan Jarrett" wrote: > Dammit Carl, I was going to do that one! Benedict's favourites so > far would appear to be 'Sju', 'Eatin' Dust' and of course 'Space Ritual'. > At the suggestion of a list-member, I am hunting for a special cocoon... Ah, since this is the first BOC-L announcement on the subject I have seen, Congratulations to Jon on the first new addition to his dynasty also! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri May 21 16:53:47 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 21:53:47 +0100 Subject: OFF: Chemical Brothers Message-ID: On fre 21 maj 1999 18.22 +0100 bart wrote: > IMHO, its a fair track ruined by excessive use of the title sample, which just > becomes annoying from about 1 minute in. I guess its me becoming an old fogey, > but I notice these days that all these big tracks by the Chem Bros (& > particularly Fat Boy Slim) start off promising but go absoutely nowhere for 4 > minutes, looping about 15 seconds of sonic interest ad nauseum. Where's the > dynamics and progression gone ? I mean plenty of HW songs chug along for 10 > minutes but at least there's some variance to keep you occupied. The curse of techno: insufficient human input ... or even human error! Old Hawkwind is chugging over a pattern but the details are being controlled by human beings in real time, all (possibly ;) listening to each other and building a sonic gestalt. Hard to replicate when everything is done by machine, hard to get that wetware sound from a hardware box. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Sun May 23 15:24:54 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 15:24:54 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Sound Files Message-ID: Are you making fun of me Carl? =P > New BOC-L program HAWK at home harnesses the power of the >internet, putting blank disc space all over the planet to use >to make blanga more widely available to the whole universe ... > From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Sun May 23 15:28:03 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 15:28:03 -0400 Subject: HW: Sound Files and Disk Space Message-ID: Well I have 15 megs, that I have never used. Wouldn't need that much space? One file on each site= 8 megs or so? It doesn't seem to me like this sort of project would be all that difficult... I mean, ya could even put the files on free-space like geo-cities and all. Links, man! -----Original Message----- From: Stuart Hamilton To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Sunday, May 23, 1999 5:37 AM Subject: HW: Sound Files and Disk Space >Well I've got 50mb of soace lying unused on EasySpace. If you decide to >go for it, I'm happy to donate it. Let me know. > >SAH >-- >Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground >PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK >e-zine and freezine >http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun May 23 15:43:19 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 20:43:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Sound Files and Disk Space Message-ID: On s?n 23 maj 1999 15.28 -0400 Sprawl wrote: > I mean, ya could even put the files on free-space like geo-cities and all. > Links, man! Actually, my recollection is that GeoCities frowns on MP3s and such like (partially because of legal issues, partially because of bandwidth). I remember scoping it as a possible home for my Scylding MP3s, but it was a no goer :/ Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun May 23 15:46:18 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 20:46:18 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Sound Files Message-ID: On s?n 23 maj 1999 15.24 -0400 Sprawl wrote: > Are you making fun of me Carl? =P > >> New BOC-L program HAWK at home harnesses the power of the >>internet, putting blank disc space all over the planet to use >>to make blanga more widely available to the whole universe ... No--or perhaps yes, but not any more than I am of SETI or would cheerfully do of myself :) I was simply struck by the comparison and couldn't resist! And besides ... it's all about *space* ... ;) Cheers, Carl ObTape: Five Fifteen, _Progressive Rock beyond the Mainstream_ -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sun May 23 16:39:33 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 21:39:33 +0100 Subject: HW: News? In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Fri, 21 May 1999 21:49:56 +0100 Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > On fre 21 maj 1999 18.22 +0100 "Jonathan Jarrett" > wrote: > > Dammit Carl, I was going to do that one! Benedict's favourites so > > far would appear to be 'Sju', 'Eatin' Dust' and of course 'Space Ritual'. > > At the suggestion of a list-member, I am hunting for a special cocoon... > > Ah, since this is the first BOC-L announcement on the subject > I have seen, Congratulations to Jon on the first new addition to > his dynasty also! Oh? Do I understand Jon has cloned a smaller version of himself? Congratulations and best wishes to all! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun May 23 16:58:25 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 16:58:25 EDT Subject: OFF: Space Does not Care set-list Message-ID: "Space Does Not Care" 5/22/99, 88.3 KUCR 1.Sky Cries Mary--Walla Walla/Moving Like Water 2.Amon Duul II--Deutsch Nepal 3.Faust--The Sad Skinhead 4.Helios Creed--Lactating Purple 5.Ozric Tentacles--Al Salooq 6.Can--Mushroom 7.ST-37--Vitamin C 8.Mirza--Souza 9.Darxtar--Valley of Time 10.F/i--Aum 11.Hawkwind--You'd Better Believe It 12.Quarkspace--Quarkital 13.Tangerine Dream--Fly & Collision of Comas Sola 14.Pressurehed--We Come in Waves 15.Amon Duul II--Pale Gallery 16.Anubian Lights--Field of Reeds OBCDs: Zappa--Make a Jazz Noise Here Farflung--25000 Feet p/Second Thanks, Chuck From drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM Sun May 23 21:35:19 1999 From: drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM (Torgo Sedler) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:35:19 PDT Subject: BOC: Happy Birthday Albert Bouchard Message-ID: I guess the subject says it all. Happy Birthday Albert. Keep on doing what you do best! Torgo has left the building....... *********************************************** DrTorgo at hotmail.com http://welcome.to/torgos *********************************************** _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun May 23 20:32:47 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 20:32:47 -0400 Subject: OFF: Chemical Brothers Message-ID: Carl said... > The curse of techno: insufficient human input ... or even >human error! Old Hawkwind is chugging over a pattern but the >details are being controlled by human beings in real time, all >(possibly ;) listening to each other and building a sonic gestalt. >Hard to replicate when everything is done by machine, hard to get >that wetware sound from a hardware box. Yes, I agree wholeheartedly!! That's why I recommend Hungary's Korai ?r?m exclusively as a 'techno/trance' band. From what I've heard (probably not enough to be sure), they are the only ones who bother to actually *play* their instruments as opposed to letting the computers do all the work. '1997' is a brilliant piece of work, and puts everything else I've heard in the 'genre' to shame. What's weird is that there has been a 'remix' album made of Korai ?r?m songs made in the last year. I don't know whether they did it themselves or whether other artists contributed. But I wonder...did they take something that wasn't broken in any way, and try to fix it?? Keith H. (FAA) ObCD: 7% Solution - Gabriel's Waltz From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Mon May 24 00:15:47 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 04:15:47 +0000 Subject: BOC: Happy Birthday Albert Bouchard Message-ID: > I guess the subject says it all. > > Happy Birthday Albert. Keep on doing what you do best! > > Torgo has left the building....... When was it, Sunday? If so, Happy belated. Kick back a little. I don't think anyone on this list would dare say you haven't earned it! -- Nick From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon May 24 04:20:28 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:20:28 +0100 Subject: BOC: Happy Birthday Albert Bouchard Message-ID: "Happy Birthday, baby--ready for another round?" :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon May 24 05:23:46 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:23:46 +0100 Subject: OFF: Tape swap 1999 Message-ID: It's almost the deadline, we're standing on the runway waiting for take-off, and I haven't had confirmation your tape is ready from these bad boys: Santtu Laakso Alun Hughes Jon Jarrett Alasdair Macdonald Larry Boyd Andrew Apold Michael Habiby Tom Marazita Dan Witt (If you have confirmed, and I've lost track, apologies.) So, this is your final call at gate six, if I don't hear that you're ready by the end of Wednesday (London time), we'll start without you! The white zone is for loading and unloading only. (Nigel - what it is is this - lots of us bang on about our favourite off-topic bands probably more than we ought, so the tape swap is all about sharing some of this non-HW/BOC music. You tape about a C-90 of off-topic stuff people won't have heard, list the tracks but not the artists [you keep a list for later], and I put all the names of participants into a virtual hat and tell you who to send your tape to. You can continue the circle as long as you like, and hopefully pick up on some new music along the way. It was fun last year, so we're giving it another shot. But you'll have to be quick!) - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon May 24 06:19:47 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:19:47 +0100 Subject: OFF: JUDGE TREV & NIK TURNER In-Reply-To: <3724965D.5200B36@connectfree.co.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Stuart Hamilton wrote: > >And my old mucker Mick Magic has got "Judgement & Thunder" by Judge Trev > >& Nik Turner as a cassette release for ?3.99 (payable to S J Taylor) > >from Mick Magic, 6 Farm Court, Frimley, Surrey GU16 5TJ, UK > > >CRRICKK! (Whiplash neckwound sustained) What manner of fowl is this? > > JUDGEMENT & THUNDER: The Greatest Hits Of Judge Trev And Nik Turner > (JUC001/M&E440) > > Tracklisting; > ATOMGODS - Atlantic Waves > ICU - Solitary astrid > ICU - Bones Of Elvis > ATOMGODS - Oh Yeah > ICU - Masters Of The Universe > ICU - Polythene > IMPERIAL POMPADOURS - The Crusher > IMPERIAL POMPADOURS - Little Black Egg > ICU - Watching The grass Grow > ATOMGODS - China All right then, someone older and wiser - who were the Atomgods and what did they release? Thanks, yours, Jon From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon May 24 06:21:47 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:21:47 +0100 Subject: HW/OFF: Aural Innovations #6 In-Reply-To: <199904261935.PAA01290@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Keith Henderson wrote: > If there's anyone overseas that has thought about subscribing, but hasn't > simply because of currency exchange, please contact me personally and I will > work with you to make it easier. > Quick calculations give me the following rates (1-yr. sub)... > UKP = 9 (or 10, if you wish to be generous and send only 1 bill) :) So, let me check here - if I send you a tenner I get a year's AI subscription? Sounds good. Where to send to, and is that the appropriate sum? Yours, Jon From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon May 24 06:23:01 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:23:01 +0100 Subject: Bother! Message-ID: Dear All, sorry, private post went to the list. Won't happen again, sorry. Yours, Jon From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Mon May 24 09:12:35 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:12:35 -0400 Subject: BOC, BRAIN: Albert, Billy, and their latest "Piece of Work" Message-ID: 1. On this, the 24th of May, we must get out our favorite tBS discs in honor of one Albert Bouchard -- Happy Birthday Albert! 2. Billy Hilfiger recently reported on the AOL tBS folder that he is feeling much better (for those of you not aware - he was recently in the hospital with a bout of spinal meningitis) - he also reports that his nephew is going to be on tour opening for Brittany Spears (tour is sponsored by Tommy Hilfiger, I believe). 3. Albert, Billy, as well as the rest of us are really stoked about the upcoming tBS double-CD, "Piece of Work" -- fans on the mailing list should be receiving something relatively soon. Rumors are that it is the best tBS album so far... John -- John A. Swartz - The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA - jswartz at mitre.org "Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to Anger - Anger leads to Hate - HATE leads to SUFFERING." -- Yoda (Star Wars: Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace) From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon May 24 10:26:07 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:26:07 EDT Subject: OFF: Tape swap 1999 Message-ID: In a message dated 5/24/99 5:24:11 AM, Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: <<(If you have confirmed, and I've lost track, apologies.)>> 'taint no prob, said he who believes he is confirmed... "<>" From abrevard at SHL.COM Mon May 24 10:40:56 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 07:40:56 -0700 Subject: OFF: Anime Message-ID: >i dunno why it is, but the anime for boys doesnt appeal much to me...martial arts/giant robots/variations on "star wars"...nah... Interesting. Jubei is one of my fave characters. Have you seen Ninja Scroll or Ninja Ressurection? Beyond that Vegeta of Dragon Balls Z also floats my boat. Whats wrong with Voltron? >but beginning w/ SAILOR MOON (says he who owns all 200 episodes), the superhero variation shows aimed at girls are great stuff! great characters, more involving stories, wider range of emotional possibilities...shoujo anime! Sat thru a couple of episodes on a Cartoon Network marathon yesterday. Easily one of the worst series I have ever seen. I'm probably just weird but Sailor Moon is just awful. Give me Ghost in the Shell, Vampire Hunter D, heck I could even sit thru Violence Jack (again) anything but Sailor Moon. Since you like the female persepctive how are you for Project Ako series? Ghost in the Ruins Who is so happy that Spawn Season 3 will be shown in a single week and not speard out forever. Oh... Happy birthday AB! NP: Marillion - Made Again Disc 1 From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon May 24 11:00:24 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:00:24 +0100 Subject: OFF: Tape swap 1999 In-Reply-To: <5e1ca700.247abb7f@aol.com> Message-ID: Larry Gotcha, you're in now! - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of DASLUD at AOL.COM > Sent: 24 May 1999 15:26 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: OFF: Tape swap 1999 > > > In a message dated 5/24/99 5:24:11 AM, Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > > <<(If you have confirmed, and I've lost track, apologies.)>> > > 'taint no prob, said he who believes he is confirmed... > "<>" > From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon May 24 11:16:07 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:16:07 +0100 Subject: OFF: Anime Message-ID: On m?n 24 maj 1999 07.40 -0700 "BREVARD, Adrian R." wrote: [DasLud opined:] >>i dunno why it is, but the anime for boys doesnt appeal much to >>me...martial >>arts/giant robots/variations on "star wars"...nah... > > Interesting. Jubei is one of my fave characters. Have you seen Ninja > Scroll or Ninja Ressurection? Beyond that Vegeta of Dragon Balls Z also > floats my boat. Whats wrong with Voltron? Voltron rocks! Ah, my adolescent post-school TV dose ... :) Even better is a superb fan-parody made by putting voice-overs over the original. I have a fuzzy tape of that somewhere, which also has the stunning fan-video of "Enter Sandman" done with clips from Iczer One. Makes the real video of the song look stupidly weak :) Never watched a lot of giant robot stuff, but I quite like a few peripheral things, like Gunbuster :) > Easily one of the worst series I have ever seen. I'm probably just weird > but Sailor Moon is just awful. Give me Ghost in the Shell, Vampire Hunter > D, heck I could even sit thru Violence Jack (again) anything but Sailor > Moon. Haven't seen a lot of Sailor Moon--it broke big in the West after my undergrad years when I regularly watched loads of pre-release stuff thanks to the offices of a guy who worked for one of the translation companies. Some of the "magic girl" anime stuff is pretty freaky stuff though. Magic Knights of Rayearth springs to mind, Pretty Sammy ... something else I watched in the US last year that I can't remember but was highly warped. Still, I hang tight for some of the old Rumiko Takahashi stuff: Lum, Ranma, Supergal. Top notch! And my original faves the incomparable Dirty Pair (er ... Lovely Angels! :) Good old D. He pretty much kicked ass too. > Since you like the female persepctive how are you for Project Ako series? The first one kicked every kind of butt. It was just loaded with beautiful parodies of loads of other anime. I thought the follow-ons were not nearly so clever, though have vague recollection of watching one of the "Blue vs. Grey" productions some years back and thinking it was pretty cool. no dubs please, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Mon May 24 11:48:48 1999 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:48:48 EDT Subject: BOC: Happy Birthday Albert Bouchard Message-ID: Have a great day, Albert. Ric From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon May 24 11:48:24 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:48:24 EDT Subject: OFF: Anime Message-ID: In a message dated 5/24/99 10:41:56 AM, abrevard at SHL.COM writes: << Whats wrong with Voltron?>> well, um, got no beef w/VOLTRON; saw it intermittently in the '80s...ditto CAPT. HARLOCK... ditto ROBOTECH...all in terms of US TV, though...guess i'm speaking in terms of shows i'd "make a project of" (i.e. collect 'em all) that wouldnt be seen on US TV == >but beginning w/ SAILOR MOON (says he who owns all 200 episodes), the superhero variation shows aimed at girls are great stuff! great characters, more involving stories, wider range of emotional possibilities...shoujo anime! == <> == ...the cartoon network marathon was gonna feature the 17 episodes that completed japanese season 2 (SAILOR MOON R) which US fans waited almost 2 years for, until last year (canadian TV got it first, fall '97) but, see, the english version of SAILOR MOON was severely hacked up, compared to the japanese version...some pretty freaky scheiss takes place in japanese seasons 3 and 5... when i first started following SM it was in part because it was totally absurd: purty li'l gals in tiny skirts saving the world...and after 23 years of involvement in US superhero comics as a fan/collector/retailer/editor (and to a lesser xtent creator) this was glorious absurdity! and then one finds out there's an entire GENRE of stuff like this! NURSE ANGEL RIRIKA SOS, WEDDING PEACH, ST. TAIL, etc. and a whole gang of lesser girls-w/wands type stuff...i'm gonna try to draw the line w/REVOLUTIONARY GIRL UTENA, a far cry from SAILOR MOON... == <> i know a little about it, not very much(a-ko, b-ko, c-ko, etc); did i see a dubbed-in-english portion on the sci-fi channel? i may be wrong about what it is, but it might have more to do w/the babes/bikinis/guns/ DIRTY PAIR type shows than the shows i've been perusing...and possibly has less to do w/"female perspective" than blokes who dig babes and bikinis packing hardware...but i've decided i dont necessarily care for anime dubbed in english, RANMA 1/2 notwithstanding... i guess i could add that while the original manga for these shows tended to be originated by women, for the publications aimed at girls, the anime versions are overseen if not dominated by men...SAILOR MOON creator naoko takeuchi was irked more than once by certain liberties taken w/the anime SAILOR MOON, though in her case she could be irked all the way to the bank ^_~ but i've got an art print by ms. takeuchi of all 10 of the sailor senshi, framed and on my wall... sometimes, when and if everything else seems to suck, absurdity is a good thing... "<>" larry b From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon May 24 11:58:40 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:58:40 +0100 Subject: Star Trek con travels through time. Message-ID: I called the number for the Star Trek Con and was told that it has been postponed until November. The woman didn't really know what was happening about Hawkwind and supposed that they might or might not play in November. Does anyone know anything more? If someone from the band is online then it'd be nice to let folks know. Travel tickets from Scotland are expensive, and even more so if we have to wait until the very last minute to decide if it's safe to buy 'em. Are Hawkwind still playing Buxton Festival? Who's all planning on going? Maybe we can get a little BOC-L camp and picnic going.... dib dib dib... FoFP From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon May 24 12:24:18 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:24:18 +0100 Subject: OFF: Anime Message-ID: On m?n 24 maj 1999 11.48 +0000 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > sometimes, when and if everything else seems to suck, > absurdity is a good thing... [drifting on topic:] "It's an electric ride to your zodiac sign!" Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Mon May 24 14:40:40 1999 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:40:40 +0100 Subject: HW: Star Trek convention CANCELLED Message-ID: Bad news I'm afraid. It seems that the Star Trek Avalon Convention has been 'postponed' and will NOT be happening on June 5th. The leisure centre where it was to be held say that the venue has NOT been booked. Hawkwind have had NO confirmation to play, and attempts to contact the organizer have failed for the last 3 weeks. Trying to phone the number that came with my tickets (01283 521304) yields a BT 'number not available' message. An alternative phone number for Sean Clark (organiser) is 01283 520843, and phoning this I got a lady who said it had been postponed until September. She also asked if I were a Hawkwind fan, which says that we 're probably the only ones who've bought tickets. She also said that letters were going out to those who had bought tickets shortly. Another mobile number for Sean Clark is 0790 1964872 although I haven't tried this myself. The address given with the tickets was 28, Yew Tree Road, Hatton Derbyshire, DE65 5EX I suggest anyone who has bought tickets get in touch to let them know how unhappy we are as soon as possible. Also Hawkwind would like to stress that the cancellation is NOT due to them, as was (maybe) rumoured by the leisure centre. Regards, One unhappy space camper, now waiting for BADAM. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Mon May 24 14:51:39 1999 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:51:39 +0100 Subject: Star Trek con travels through time. Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 4:58 PM Subject: Star Trek con travels through time. > I called the number for the Star Trek Con and was told that it has been > postponed until November. The woman didn't really know what was > happening about Hawkwind and supposed that they might or might not play > in November. Looks like it's OFF. > > Does anyone know anything more? If someone from the band is online then > it'd be nice to let folks know. Travel tickets from Scotland are > expensive, and even more so if we have to wait until the very last > minute to decide if it's safe to buy 'em. > > Are Hawkwind still playing Buxton Festival? Who's all planning on going? > Maybe we can get a little BOC-L camp and picnic going.... Yes it's still on as of today. I'm going, my name's on ticket number 1. I'll bring a teapot for the picnic, maybe we can get Daevid Allen to fly it... Regards, Neil. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon May 24 15:00:05 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 15:00:05 EDT Subject: OFF: Chemical Brothers/ELECTRIC MUSIC 4D MIND & BODY Message-ID: In a message dated 5/23/99 9:44:46 PM, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: < The curse of techno: insufficient human input ... or even >human error! Old Hawkwind is chugging over a pattern but the >details are being controlled by human beings in real time, all >(possibly ;) listening to each other and building a sonic gestalt. >Hard to replicate when everything is done by machine, hard to get >that wetware sound from a hardware box. >> WELL SAID, CARL-CHAN! pour moi, as much as i like swooshy noises, i've found i still have some internal resistance to "music that ceases to exist when the plug is pulled..." and electronic drums, as advanced and better-sounding as they continually get..., bug me...(most recent case in point for me would be alan davey's recently-heard "bedouin" cd; i did like it, but... would much rather have drummed on it myself ^_~) i guess i must be exempting amplification of "standard" instrumentation, though, since i like guitar "blanga" (and plenty of it) even more than swooshy noises... the old guy squeeks and having squeeked, moves on "<>" From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon May 24 15:35:50 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 20:35:50 +0100 Subject: OFF: sad news In-Reply-To: <374e8087.20737667@smtp.freeserve.net> Message-ID: In message <374e8087.20737667 at smtp.freeserve.net>, andrew writes > They seem to be almost as >well loved as their UK counterparts (tho' no relation betwixt the two) >and people rate their stuff quite highly. Augustus Pablo died the same day, aged 46. Why do these guys always leave us in bunches? -- Jon ....My God, the spiders are everywhere......... From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon May 24 17:02:52 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:02:52 EDT Subject: OFF: a moment of silence for augustus pablo Message-ID: "<>" From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon May 24 17:09:17 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:09:17 +0100 Subject: OFF: JUDGE TREV & NIK TURNER Message-ID: Atomgods were Judge and, well, whoever was playing with at the time, basically. Those included Kofi Baker (Ginger's son and Steve Pond). They released two albums "Wow!" as the Atomgods and "History Rewritten" as Atomgod. The first is the better one. Tracks (pretty much all by Trev, I think) included "Bashin' up the rich", "Slow down motorhead", and "Dog rot". Its like much more metalised ICU, with quite a strong thrash/punk edge to it. Well worth tracking down. Nick -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Jarrett To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 24 May 1999 11:20 Subject: Re: OFF: JUDGE TREV & NIK TURNER On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Stuart Hamilton wrote: > >And my old mucker Mick Magic has got "Judgement & Thunder" by Judge Trev > >& Nik Turner as a cassette release for ?3.99 (payable to S J Taylor) > >from Mick Magic, 6 Farm Court, Frimley, Surrey GU16 5TJ, UK > > >CRRICKK! (Whiplash neckwound sustained) What manner of fowl is this? > > JUDGEMENT & THUNDER: The Greatest Hits Of Judge Trev And Nik Turner > (JUC001/M&E440) > > Tracklisting; > ATOMGODS - Atlantic Waves > ICU - Solitary astrid > ICU - Bones Of Elvis > ATOMGODS - Oh Yeah > ICU - Masters Of The Universe > ICU - Polythene > IMPERIAL POMPADOURS - The Crusher > IMPERIAL POMPADOURS - Little Black Egg > ICU - Watching The grass Grow > ATOMGODS - China All right then, someone older and wiser - who were the Atomgods and what did they release? Thanks, yours, Jon From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon May 24 17:27:05 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:27:05 EDT Subject: OFF: /ELECTRIC MUSIC 4D MIND & BODY Message-ID: In a message dated 5/24/99 3:01:35 PM, DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: << i guess i must be exempting amplification of "standard" instrumentation, though, since i like guitar "blanga" (and plenty of it) even more than swooshy noises... >> but now that you mention it ...something which turned me off to most of the last couple decades of "metallic" muzik is that it takes little effort to make a big noise nowadays...once it seemed one had to make the effort to [wring it out] but now...it promotes WWF wrestling! it's "equipment rock", way out beyond the "scholz nadir" for better and/or worse, the grunge-era bands who did it because it was in 'em to do it were the ones who inherited the notion of [wringing it out]...not that theirs was the only way...(ask nick saloman, for one) i call it "respect for electricity"...with "equipment rock" the "power" is assumed, taken for granted....not respected... i'm not sure i'm making sense but I KNOW you know what i'm sputtering about here mistah theo "<>" From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Mon May 24 19:55:29 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:55:29 +0900 Subject: HW/OFF: Aural Innovations #6 Message-ID: Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Keith Henderson wrote: > > > If there's anyone overseas that has thought about subscribing, but hasn't > > simply because of currency exchange, please contact me personally and I will > > work with you to make it easier. > > Quick calculations give me the following rates (1-yr. sub)... > > UKP = 9 (or 10, if you wish to be generous and send only 1 bill) :) > > So, let me check here - if I send you a tenner I get a year's AI > subscription? Sounds good. Where to send to, and is that the appropriate > sum? Yours, > Jon And what is it in Yen? -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Mon May 24 19:59:55 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:59:55 +0900 Subject: Bother! Message-ID: And there was me replying to it. Double drat. Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > Dear All, > sorry, private post went to the list. Won't happen > again, sorry. Yours, > Jon -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Mon May 24 20:12:24 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:12:24 +0900 Subject: OFF: GONG in Japan Message-ID: If anyone is passing through, or if there are listees out here, Gong will be at Shibuya On Air West on 23 and 24 of June. Anyone have any idea of the line up, these dates sound familiar from a previous (and deleted) post. Is this the Divided Alien/Gilli Smythe incarnation? -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon May 24 19:06:15 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 19:06:15 -0400 Subject: OFF: GONG in Japan Message-ID: >If anyone is passing through, or if there are listees out >here, Gong will be at Shibuya On Air West on 23 and 24 of >June. Anyone have any idea of the line up, these dates >sound familiar from a previous (and deleted) post. Is this >the Divided Alien/Gilli Smythe incarnation? The US lineup will be: Daevid Allen Gilli Smyth Mark Hewins (Gtr) Mike Howlett (B) Didier Malherbe (Sax, Flute) Chris Taylor (D) - taking the place of Pierre Moerlen (who fell ill or something) (Hugh Hopper is rumoured to make an appearance at San Fran/ProgFest also.) Presumably, the Japan lineup will be similar, if not the same. The setlists they've been doing in Europe are very heavy on the Camembert/Trilogy era material. Daevid was writing semi-daily logs on the GAS site, so you might look there for more info. Keith H. (FAA) From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue May 25 04:40:02 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 04:40:02 EDT Subject: OFF: GONG in L.A. Message-ID: In a message dated 99-05-24 20:17:59 EDT, you write: << Presumably, the Japan lineup will be similar, if not the same. The setlists they've been doing in Europe are very heavy on the Camembert/Trilogy era material. Daevid was writing semi-daily logs on the GAS site, so you might look there for more info. Keith H. (FAA) >> ---BTW, are there any BOC-Lers in the SoCal area who plan to attend the LA gig at House of Blues (or the P. Tree/Magma gig the day before) on June 2?? I'm not sure I'm going, but getting to meet some boc-lers live would be a great impetus. Chuck From abrevard at SHL.COM Tue May 25 10:30:32 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 07:30:32 -0700 Subject: OFF: Anime Message-ID: >but, see, the english version of SAILOR MOON was severely hacked up, compared to the japanese version...some pretty freaky scheiss takes place in japanese seasons 3 and 5... I'll buy that for a dollar. English dubs usually bite the big one. Don't think I would enjoy Ninja Scroll half as much if it were dubbed. Unfortunately Ninja Ressurection is dubbed in english...no comparison to Scroll. >when i first started following SM it was in part because it was totally absurd: purty li'l gals in tiny skirts saving the world...and after 23 years of involvement in US superhero comics as a fan/collector/retailer/editor (and to a lesser xtent creator) this was glorious absurdity! Ya that is pretty left field. >i know a little about it, not very much(a-ko, b-ko, c-ko, etc); did i see a dubbed-in-english portion on the sci-fi channel? I recall seeing it on sci-fi channel a few years back. They were running an anime marathon, Ako, Vampire Hunter D, Robot Carnival and a few others. It was the first Ako volume. Will never forget Ako jumping from rocket to rocket to get to the alien mothership. Way kewl. >Voltron rocks! Big fan of the five lions. Other version comprised of multiple spaceships did little for me. >Even better is a superb fan-parody made by putting voice-overs over the original. I have a fuzzy tape of that somewhere, which also has the stunning fan-video of "Enter Sandman" done with clips from Iczer One. Makes the real video of the song look stupidly weak :) Wicked. I've attempted to put a Tick collage to the music of the Galactic Cowboys. Wish I had better equipment. Contemplating a Spawn video using the music of Queensryche, Iced Earth, old Savatage and BLUE OYSTER CULT'S Dominance and Submission! Everyone get into the spirit, lets watch cartoons while we rock. Ghost in the Ruins OBSpawn Thought - My oh my is season three shapjng up in interesting ways. OBCD: Rush - Different Stages Disc 3 From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue May 25 12:01:06 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:01:06 EDT Subject: OFF: Anime Message-ID: In a message dated 5/25/99 10:34:40 AM, abrevard at SHL.COM writes: << I've attempted to put a Tick collage >> if there is a discreet way of talking about my personal involvement w/the original TICK comics, and my cameo/parody appearance in the "mole king" episode of the cartoon series, let me know "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue May 25 12:05:59 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:05:59 EDT Subject: OFF: Anime Message-ID: In a message dated 5/25/99 10:34:40 AM, abrevard at SHL.COM writes: <> i only saw a couple first season ep's (no HBO at my house)...impressive and repellent at the same time...but it's made it to season 3, no kiddin'... kinda not my turf, but i'd watch it again...at least until body parts started flyin'... "<>" From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Tue May 25 12:12:41 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:12:41 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anime Message-ID: To paraphase my fav. hero (aside from Ambush Bug). "Let's Bungee for Justice!!!" > ---------- > From: DASLUD at AOL.COM[SMTP:DASLUD at AOL.COM] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 12:01 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: OFF: Anime > > In a message dated 5/25/99 10:34:40 AM, abrevard at SHL.COM writes: > > << I've attempted to put a Tick collage >> > > if there is a discreet way of talking about my personal involvement w/the > original TICK comics, and my cameo/parody appearance in the "mole king" > episode of the cartoon series, let me know > > "<>" > From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue May 25 12:23:08 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:23:08 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anime Message-ID: >To paraphase my fav. hero (aside from Ambush Bug). "Let's Bungee for >Justice!!!" Ambush Bug.... ah... a true hero.... I have all the issues.... The book of jobs.... the (gasp) Darkseid on the final page of every issue... the mind-slaves of the caption king.... forever ambush... advantageous!.... the largest ever alcohol-dipped cotton swab.... his exploits versus the legion of substitute heroes - auxilliary.... ah... memories... the ambush bug mart, with the 50' inflatable proty..... ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue May 25 12:42:06 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:42:06 EDT Subject: OFF: Anime Message-ID: In a message dated 5/25/99 12:13:56 PM, russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM writes: <> OH YESSSS.... "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue May 25 12:47:30 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 12:47:30 EDT Subject: OFF: Anime..then again she may not Message-ID: In a message dated 5/25/99 12:24:21 PM, mordru at FLITE.NET writes: <> including all those early appearances in ACTION? <> yeah, mr. giffen was on a roll there for awhile nice to find someone here who knows comics a bit SALUD, AMBUSH BUG! "<>" From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue May 25 13:19:48 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 13:19:48 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anime..then again she may not Message-ID: >In a message dated 5/25/99 12:24:21 PM, mordru at FLITE.NET writes: > >< >I have all the issues....>> > >including all those early appearances in ACTION? But of course. >yeah, mr. giffen was on a roll there for awhile >nice to find someone here who knows comics a bit >SALUD, AMBUSH BUG! It's hard to single out an absolute favorite moment. I think, perhaps, it's when Giffen decided that "Artists don't need writers" and attempted to do the book himself. Above the city..... and somewhat off to one side.... lurks.... AB: I, Bug, have lurked above (and somewhat off to one side) this city for far too long. Besides which, Forsooth! My enemy doth appear! JS I doth appear. Verily, I doeth! etc... ....... it's at least as good as when they let Robert Loren Fleming draw that one panel. Believe it or not, I learned to draw from the "How to draw Ambush Bug and make Teriyaki Burgers" sketch too... ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Tue May 25 14:07:14 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 14:07:14 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anime..then again she may not Message-ID: My first (and fondest moment). B.G.> "Open Up! It's Me Homer Spalding!" A.B.> "Your name's homer?" B.G.> "Yeah, my mother was into Greek mythology and all that, why?" A.B.> WHAM! "I always wanted to hit a Homer" B.G.> "uugh..." A.B.> "hmmmph, I usually get more life out of a spalding" > ---------- > From: Andrew A. Apold[SMTP:mordru at FLITE.NET] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 1:19 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: OFF: Anime..then again she may not > > >In a message dated 5/25/99 12:24:21 PM, mordru at FLITE.NET writes: > > > >< > > >I have all the issues....>> > > > >including all those early appearances in ACTION? > > But of course. > > >yeah, mr. giffen was on a roll there for awhile > >nice to find someone here who knows comics a bit > >SALUD, AMBUSH BUG! > > It's hard to single out an absolute favorite moment. > I think, perhaps, it's when Giffen decided that > "Artists don't need writers" and attempted to do > the book himself. > > Above the city..... and somewhat off to one side.... lurks.... > > AB: I, Bug, have lurked above (and somewhat off to one side) > this city for far too long. Besides which, Forsooth! > My enemy doth appear! > > JS I doth appear. Verily, I doeth! > > etc... > > ....... > it's at least as good as when they let Robert Loren Fleming > draw that one panel. Believe it or not, I learned to draw > from the "How to draw Ambush Bug and make Teriyaki Burgers" > sketch too... > ============================================ > "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random > > Andrew Apold > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue May 25 14:26:29 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 19:26:29 +0100 Subject: more smoke to disappear in ~~~~~~~*~~~~~~~~~~~~*~~~~~ In-Reply-To: <8db00969.24588219@aol.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Apr 1999 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > i do have the hypothetical disc 2 more or less mapped out, but i'd put in > this 25 min jam w/twink on drums from '71, which would be 1/3 of the disc, > and now i think such a jam would be better off on the hypothetical disc > 3...the main thing that jam has going for it is the sound quality and the > presence of twink... Dear Larry, I missed the original behind this, which is rather old... But, is this a reference to a Hawkwind recording with Twink? Which one, is it available, and stuff like that? I've often wondered if he was on record with the Hawks anywhere, more for interest than any guarantee of quality (since Terry Ollis wasn't at all bad on the drums when he wasn't off his face). Can you furnish me with any information? Yours, Jon From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Tue May 25 14:40:07 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel kew) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 19:40:07 +0100 Subject: Non BOC/HW Y2K 'joke' Message-ID: This tickled me so thought I'd share! >Brother Dave told me this, apologies if you've heard it... > >There's a new year 2000 compliant product on the market, Y2KY-Jelly. >Apparently it allows you four digits where previously you could only >get two... > >Martyn > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue May 25 18:15:23 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 18:15:23 -0400 Subject: OFF: ATTN Steve Lindsay Message-ID: Sorry to go this route... but Steve, if you're out there, email jkranitz at infinet.com and tell him where you live. I gotta go now. See ya' in a week after I get back from San Fran. Keith H. (FAA) From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue May 25 20:23:24 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 00:23:24 GMT Subject: OFF: mayeb of interest... swedish psych Message-ID: hi all i saw this review whilst trawling the net, the guy reviewing it is pretty opinionated but i thought it might interest some folks... from http://home.swipnet.se/~w-55354/ TRIPPING IN THE BASEMENT:COMP-LP(SUBLIMINAL SOUNDS) This is a compilation of Swedish Psychedelic music from the 80's and 90's.Most of the bands and songs on this one was never released on record before.It's only 7 tracks on this LP by groups like:Stoner,Freak,Zonk,Dream machine,Twilight souls,Twin suns and Infanto freako.Most of the bands doing heavy psychedelic rock and it's a good comp if you're into late 60's,early 70's psychedelic hard rock.The high points from this album has to be Stefan Kery's own bands Stoner and Zonk.The song by Zonk is called "Head"and it's a heavy killer song with Stefan's great powerful vocals,that song is outstanding on this LP.I also like the Infanto Freako song "It all adds up"a song that was made as a tribute to The 13th floor elevators.Dream machine's "Mind expander"is a great organ based song which is taken from some demo tape in 1985.This LP is worth getting if you are into this type of music.Otherwise you won't need this. Postman Pat! Is a twat! Period Pains! We're insane! - The Period Pains From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed May 26 01:59:54 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 01:59:54 EDT Subject: more smoke to disappear in ~~~~~~~*~~~~~~~~~~~~*~~~~~ Message-ID: In a message dated 5/25/99 2:26:46 PM, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: << Dear Larry, I missed the original behind this, which is rather old... But, is this a reference to a Hawkwind recording with Twink? Which one, is it available, and stuff like that? I've often wondered if he was on record with the Hawks anywhere, more for interest than any guarantee of quality (since Terry Ollis wasn't at all bad on the drums when he wasn't off his face). Can you furnish me with any information? Yours, Jon >> sho nuff...twink filled in for mr. ollis in birmingham 12/2 or 2/12 or dec. 2. '71 === he does okay bluffing his way through the set (considering), which ends w/an early "born to go" and the aforementioned 25 minute jam. pretty good sound quality too>> contact me off group if you wanna hear it...(i'll have to play it again myself, now that we mention it) there's one particular may or june 72 HW show where ollis just aint cuttin' it...frequently stops playing...this was around the time mr. king took over; there were a few gigs w/ollis and king together (!) sure would like to find one... ollis sounded like a drummer who had taken lessons and king sounded like one day he sat down and started bashing away (as i did, w/king looming largely) === not a knock on ollis, just making a distinction ^_~ though indeed, mr. king is a MAIN MAN of mine "<>" From sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI Wed May 26 04:39:44 1999 From: sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI (Santeri Laakso) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:39:44 +0300 Subject: Hawkwind lyrics Message-ID: Hi there! Could someone please help me with the complete lyrics of Kadu Flyer and Watching the Grass Grow? Thanks in advance! All is well, galactic brother... Santtu/Dark Sun From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed May 26 06:26:39 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:26:39 +0100 Subject: Non BOC/HW Y2K 'joke' In-Reply-To: nigel kew's message of Tue, 25 May 1999 19:40:07 +0100 Message-ID: > >There's a new year 2000 compliant product on the market, Y2KY-Jelly. > >Apparently it allows you four digits where previously you could only > >get two... And it's thumbs up for February 29th 2000 too. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed May 26 06:31:48 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:31:48 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind lyrics In-Reply-To: Santeri Laakso's message of Wed, 26 May 1999 11:39:44 +0300 Message-ID: Santeri Laakso writes: > Hi there! > > Could someone please help me with the complete lyrics of Kadu Flyer and > Watching the Grass Grow? Dunno about Komplete, but this is what I have: Kadu Flyer ========== I want to try, I want to be me I want to get high, I want to see I want to fly, I want to be free I take the trail from Katmandu With a different kind of trip in view Everest is behind the town Mountain High-bound to get higher My glider, I'm the Kadu Flyer Cygnus of the skies, the prize And I will rise to win it Never fly through a cloud if there's a mountain in it My route is by the steep ascent Do battle with the elements Reefs of peril, fierce freezing winds Downdraft dangers want to drag me down My straining ailerons the only sound I'm carried by the keening wind, with the dandelions glide Everest, I'll never rest I'll see you a mogul when I'm high Crawl the thermal up a mountain Like the Pteradacyl's wings Waves of lift and wing vibrations Help me to invoke the sun True me up in soaring fun Rising like the phoenix In full flight from the fire A dragon wing of string and sticks Gliding higher and higher and higher _______________________________________________________________________ Watching the Grass Grow ======================= We are the Survivors The eternal survivors Androgynous energies Travelling through time Particle Accelerators Morality Degenerators Dadata Disseminators Cyclotron attenuators Hyperspatial Conflagrators MEST Integrators Well your neutron bomb neutralised your history Wiped cancer from the Earth, and mystery Now we're pushing over concrete Blowing up the rockery Watching the garden Letting the grass grow Letting the grass grow We all know where the flowers went today Media explosion blew them all away After the thunder Always comes the rain We're coming up again Letting the grass grow Letting the grass grow Post future reality, it's a better real world Post future reality, it's a real better world Post future super-reality, it's a real super world Post holocaust hilarity, it's a super real world Post future surreality, it's sure a surreal world Post future surreality, it's a real surreal world Tell me Doc Spock have you got all your answers Ephemeral vision recalling the dancers Picking up the pieces In a progress picture Taking samples to his curator Letting the grass grow Watching the grass grow Pieces of the omniversal zoo But will we survive? we always do We're coming up again We're coming up again We're coming up again Watching the grass grow Watching the grass grow Watching the grass grow __________________________________________________________________________ From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Wed May 26 10:42:05 1999 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (James A Hogard) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:42:05 -0500 Subject: Non BOC/HW Y2K 'joke' Message-ID: >>> There's a new year 2000 compliant product on the market, >>> Y2KY-Jelly. >>> Apparently it allows you four digits where previously you could >>> only get two... > And it's thumbs up for February 29th 2000 too. I believe that there is no 29 Feb 2000. Right? Hogard From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed May 26 10:50:44 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:50:44 -0400 Subject: Non BOC/HW Y2K 'joke' Message-ID: >>>> There's a new year 2000 compliant product on the market, >>>> Y2KY-Jelly. >>>> Apparently it allows you four digits where previously you could >>>> only get two... > >> And it's thumbs up for February 29th 2000 too. > >I believe that there is no 29 Feb 2000. Right? Wrong. In the gregorian calendar, we skip a leap year on every year ending in "00" EXCEPT those divisable by 400. So this Feb 29 will be a rather unique day, it won't happen again until the yeaer 2400. Of course, for those unaware of the Gregorian skip (which happened in 1700, 1800 and 1900) they will think nothing is different.... ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed May 26 11:02:33 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:02:33 +0100 Subject: Non BOC/HW Y2K 'joke' In-Reply-To: James A Hogard's message of Wed, 26 May 1999 09:42:05 -0500 Message-ID: James A Hogard writes: > >>> There's a new year 2000 compliant product on the market, > >>> Y2KY-Jelly. > >>> Apparently it allows you four digits where previously you could > >>> only get two... > > > And it's thumbs up for February 29th 2000 too. > > I believe that there is no 29 Feb 2000. Right? > > Hogard There is a February 29th in 2000. Years divisible by 100 do not have 29/2 except when they're divisible by 400, as is 2000. Since many programs have just the "divide by 100" rule programmed in, and not the divide by 400 rule, the 29th of February is also a "Y2K" test. Other fun and exciting dates are: 1/1/99 : 99 is used as an error code in many programs and some did in fact crash at the start of this year. 9/9/99: Used as a date error code in many programs. FoFP From mlooney at IONET.NET Wed May 26 11:05:51 1999 From: mlooney at IONET.NET (Mike Looney - ionet) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:05:51 -0500 Subject: Non BOC/HW Y2K 'joke' Message-ID: James A Hogard wrote: > >>> There's a new year 2000 compliant product on the market, > >>> Y2KY-Jelly. > >>> Apparently it allows you four digits where previously you could > >>> only get two... > > > And it's thumbs up for February 29th 2000 too. > > I believe that there is no 29 Feb 2000. Right? Wrong. Year 2000 is a leap year If divisible by 4, unless divisible by 100 unless also divisible by 400 -- Sillyness is the last refuse of the doomed. P. Opus http://www.spellbooksoftware.com -- -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GAT d-- s:- a38 US++ P+ L+ E W+++ N++ K++ w++ O- M- V-- PS+ PE++ Y PGP t++ 5 X R+++ tv+ b++++ DI+++ D G+ e+ h--- r+++ y+++(**) ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From abrevard at SHL.COM Wed May 26 11:23:27 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 10:23:27 -0500 Subject: OFF: Anime, Tick, Ambush Bug, Spawn Message-ID: << I've attempted to put a Tick collage >> >if there is a discreet way of talking about my personal involvement w/the original TICK comics, and my cameo/parody appearance in the "mole king" episode of the cartoon series, let me know "<>" Please just let it fly! Never got into the comic books but I have all 36 animated episodes on tape. Somewhat spoiled as I have never been privy to the differences of Animated Tick vs. Comic Book Tick. Ooooo for a full lenght Tick movie...what price would I pay? <<"When a nice clean brain tumbles to the dirty street to lie among the discarded wrappers and spat out gum wads of wickedness, you can't just pick it and wash it off with soap and water; you gotta think it clean from the inside out." - The Tick>> Ambush Bug? <<"What's in a name anyway? If I were called Bob or Jack or Vinny or a piece of fruit, would I be any less a hero? And if Barry were called Ruppert, Max or rainbow would he be any less a jerk? I don't think so. Because a name is a rose and it only smells as sweet as you are." - The Tick>> Who is this Ambush Bug? Sounds right up my alley. Spawn - I only saw a couple first season ep's (no HBO at my house)...impressive and repellent at the same time...but it's made it to season 3, no kiddin'... kinda not my turf, but i'd watch it again...at least until body parts started flyin'... The violence thus far this season is toned down. However this is the calm before the storm. Lots of background thus far and further explanation of Spawn's powers and past life. Good stuff. 3 more to go. <<"60 seconds to Midnight...60 seconds to nowhere baby. You have all become victims of the Evil Midnight Bomber what bombs...hey pay attention." EMB>> Ghost in the Ruins From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed May 26 11:55:01 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 11:55:01 EDT Subject: OFF: Anime, Tick, Ambush Bug, Spawn Message-ID: In a message dated 5/26/99 11:24:28 AM, abrevard at SHL.COM writes: <> it's being worked on! has been for awhile now...one can hope... "<>" by request, i'll go into more detail about my experiences with THE TICK and new england comics press 1987-93(such as they were) when i get home from work... From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Wed May 26 12:02:56 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:02:56 +0100 Subject: OFF: Anime, Tick, Ambush Bug, Spawn In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 26 May 1999 11:55:01 EDT." <5c4d9c6.247d7355@aol.com> Message-ID: > In a message dated 5/26/99 11:24:28 AM, abrevard at SHL.COM writes: > > <> > > it's being worked on! has been for awhile now...one can hope... > > "<>" > > by request, i'll go into more detail about my experiences with THE TICK and > new england comics press 1987-93(such as they were) when i get home from > work... yeah, but preferably NOT on boc-l Tim ObCD: Godspeed You Black Emperor F#A#oo From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed May 26 12:11:28 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:11:28 EDT Subject: OFF: Anime, Tick, Ambush Bug, Spawn Message-ID: In a message dated 5/26/99 12:05:51 PM, bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK writes: <> huh. several days of this kinda material here but suddenly THAT bothers you? i dont get it. screw it, then. "<>" From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed May 26 12:33:52 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:33:52 +0100 Subject: OFF: Anime, Tick, Ambush Bug, Spawn Message-ID: On ons 26 maj 1999 12.11 +0000 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 5/26/99 12:05:51 PM, bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK writes: > <> > > huh. several days of this kinda material here but suddenly THAT bothers you? > i dont get it. > screw it, then. It's a fair cop, guv. We're supposed to try to avoid over indulgence in off-topic things. This is the kind of stuff which it makes sense to send to people who ask to hear about, rather than the list at large--the list at large being, well, large, and the percentage of hardcore comic fans perhaps rather smaller than that. But then everybody is happy, and when everybody is happy, everything is good :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed May 26 12:52:14 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:52:14 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anime, Tick, Ambush Bug, Spawn Message-ID: >In a message dated 5/26/99 12:05:51 PM, bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK writes: > ><> > >huh. several days of this kinda material here but suddenly THAT bothers you? > >i dont get it. >screw it, then. If you want, take names and send it to us privately, I'm interested in hearing about New England Comics and that stuff.... (any idea where Ben Edlund is these days?) ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed May 26 12:52:14 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 12:52:14 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anime, Tick, Ambush Bug, Spawn Message-ID: ><<"When a nice clean brain tumbles to the dirty street to lie among the >discarded wrappers and spat out gum wads of wickedness, you can't just pick >it and wash it off with soap and water; you gotta think it clean from the >inside out." - The Tick>> > > >Ambush Bug? >>Who is this Ambush Bug? Sounds right up my alley. Well, his origin goes like this: The Secret Origin of Ambush Bug: We thunk him up! okay, well, there is another version, involving a wardrobe sent from a doomed planet that got bitten by a giant cosmic radioactive space spider.... He's one of those where he knows he's in a comic, and treats it as a job (and often gets fired). Among more amusing characters: Villian the Villain. Took his name to teach people the proper way to spell "Villain". Argh! Yle, evilest of socks. Ambush bug left behind one item of clothing from the wardrobe of Brum-El, a sock which achieved sentience and vowed revenge. He could animate other abandoned socks to do his bidding. Cheeks, the Toy Wonder. A stuffed doll. Was killed when Ambush Bug left him next to a bomb with orders to defuse it. Jonni DC - this DC mascot appears frequently as a continuity cop. Darkseid - issue after issue, the last page featured a cliffhanger confrontation with Darkside, promising the next issue to be "When Titans Clash" (the most over-used title in comic-history) .......... In particular, if you like to see a universe skewered (far better than any of the "Sergio Aragones destroys the (insert name) Universe", and at least as good as the Fred Hembeck versions, Ambush Bug's "History of the DC Universe" (Ambush Bug (1st series issue 3)) was incredible. All the characters DC tried to shove under the rug, including Egg-Fu, Wonder Tot, The Green Team, Sugar and Spice, the evil starfish army, Binky... and perhaps... the greatest: Ace, the Bathound. Lessee if I can recall how this one goes: Bruce Wayne discovers an abandoned dog. Searching for his owner, he puts a picture of himself with the dog in the local paper. Later, an emergency arises. He changes into his Batman uniform, and with Robin, leaps in the batmobile. Before the door closes, the dog leaps in with them. There is no time to turn back. However, Batman realizes that the dog's picture is in the paper, and if anyone sees Batman with the dog then people will (gasp!) draw the link between Bruce Wayne and Batman. So.... while speeding to the crime scene.... they cut out a mask for the dog to conceal his secret identity.... you had to be there.... ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Wed May 26 13:00:57 1999 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:00:57 +0200 Subject: Off: Spacehead. Message-ID: Hi there! Yesterday I got the new Spachead CD "In space we trust... Live ?95 - ?98". So far I?ve heard it three times and my personal view is that this Cd is far better than their debut CD. This time they actually got some tasy melodies. My favourite-tracks are " Third age of magic" and "Where are they now". The first track has already been included on one Krel tape but this time it?s remastered. The second track is an old Hawkwind-track and it?s a very good version. the CD is a must for every spacerock fans (IMHO). Peace of mind records sell for 100 SKR / ? 13 (P&P not included). The new CD?s by Dr Hasbeen is also on sale at the very same place for 100 SKR / $ 13 (P&P not included). You can reach them at this adress: peaceofmind at telia.com Space is deep... Hawkswede -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed May 26 14:53:27 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:53:27 +0100 Subject: OFF: Anime, Tick, Ambush Bug, Spawn In-Reply-To: <199905261652.MAA18305@issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us> Message-ID: At 12:52 26/05/99 -0400, you wrote: >>In a message dated 5/26/99 12:05:51 PM, bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK writes: >> >><> >> >>huh. several days of this kinda material here but suddenly THAT bothers you? >> >>i dont get it. >>screw it, then. > >If you want, take names and send it to us privately, I'm interested in >hearing about New England Comics and that stuff.... (any idea where >Ben Edlund is these days?) > >============================================ >"I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random > >Andrew Apold I'm interested too! ChrisW Another closet Ambush Bug fan ( & the Moon Roach/Captain Cockroach/Wolverroach) From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Wed May 26 15:11:55 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:11:55 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anime, Tick, Ambush Bug, Spawn Message-ID: Lets not forget his super power - he does have one you know. He teleports. He is also the head of the Superman fan club - the hero he idolizes most. > ---------- > From: Andrew A. Apold[SMTP:mordru at FLITE.NET] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 12:52 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: OFF: Anime, Tick, Ambush Bug, Spawn > > ><<"When a nice clean brain tumbles to the dirty street to lie among the > >discarded wrappers and spat out gum wads of wickedness, you can't just > pick > >it and wash it off with soap and water; you gotta think it clean from the > >inside out." - The Tick>> > > > > > >Ambush Bug? > >>Who is this Ambush Bug? Sounds right up my alley. > > Well, his origin goes like this: > > The Secret Origin of Ambush Bug: > We thunk him up! > > okay, well, there is another version, involving a wardrobe > sent from a doomed planet that got bitten by a giant cosmic > radioactive space spider.... > > He's one of those where he knows he's in a comic, and treats > it as a job (and often gets fired). Among more amusing characters: > > Villian the Villain. Took his name to teach people the proper > way to spell "Villain". > > Argh! Yle, evilest of socks. Ambush bug left behind one item of > clothing from the wardrobe of Brum-El, a sock which achieved > sentience and vowed revenge. He could animate other abandoned > socks to do his bidding. > > Cheeks, the Toy Wonder. A stuffed doll. Was killed when Ambush > Bug left him next to a bomb with orders to defuse it. > > Jonni DC - this DC mascot appears frequently as a continuity cop. > > Darkseid - issue after issue, the last page featured a cliffhanger > confrontation with Darkside, promising the next issue to be > "When Titans Clash" (the most over-used title in comic-history) > > .......... > > In particular, if you like to see a universe skewered (far better > than any of the "Sergio Aragones destroys the (insert name) > Universe", and at least as good as the Fred Hembeck versions, > Ambush Bug's "History of the DC Universe" (Ambush Bug (1st series > issue 3)) was incredible. All the characters DC tried to shove > under the rug, including Egg-Fu, Wonder Tot, The Green Team, > Sugar and Spice, the evil starfish army, Binky... and perhaps... > the greatest: > > Ace, the Bathound. > > Lessee if I can recall how this one goes: > > Bruce Wayne discovers an abandoned dog. Searching for his owner, > he puts a picture of himself with the dog in the local paper. Later, > an emergency arises. He changes into his Batman uniform, and with > Robin, leaps in the batmobile. Before the door closes, the dog leaps > in with them. There is no time to turn back. However, Batman > realizes that the dog's picture is in the paper, and if anyone > sees Batman with the dog then people will (gasp!) draw the link > between Bruce Wayne and Batman. So.... while speeding to the > crime scene.... they cut out a mask for the dog to conceal > his secret identity.... > > you had to be there.... > > ============================================ > "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random > > Andrew Apold > From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed May 26 17:38:32 1999 From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 22:38:32 +0100 Subject: HW:Love In Space/Trek Con/and more Message-ID: Hi Folks I was wondering if the Love in Space album had been released in jewel case CD, or has it only ever been released as the digipack? Anyone considering going to see Hawkwind at the Star Trek Con beginning of June would be wise to double check as i hear it has been cancelled. There may be another Hawk gig hastily arranged to fill this show. Check late tomorrow (27 May) on the "Whats New" page on the Hawkeye website for any details. A new ambient Hawk remixed album called "Bass Ritual - The Original Masters Of The Universe" is due fairly soon. Furthermore, if anyone mailed me between 16 May to 23May, it's likely i never recieved the message as the Freeserve mail server was down for days. I recieved some personal mail but little BOC-L stuff. Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html I'm still looking urgently for a number of items for the Hawkwind Book. Details can be found at: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/hawkwind_chrons.html So, get up into those attics and dig through those stored boxes of stashed Hawkwind stuff. I'd be more than grateful for ANY assistance. Ta in advanced All the best Age From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed May 26 18:15:04 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 23:15:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: Tape swap 1999 Message-ID: Instructions are now being sent to all participants. (In an uncharacteristically terse manner, but it's a pain doing all that cutting and pasting! :) Questions, whinges, etc to the usual address. - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Wed May 26 18:46:25 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel kew) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 23:46:25 +0100 Subject: Non BOC/HW Y2K 'joke' Message-ID: >1/1/99 : 99 is used as an error code in many programs and some did in fact crash at the start of this year. 9/9/99: Used as a date error code in many programs.< such as southern electric which did crash even though it was briefly and strangely enough not mentioned on any media!!!! Conspiracy, conspiracy, conspiracy, MU, MU etal. DOC............ From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Wed May 26 18:51:33 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel kew) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 23:51:33 +0100 Subject: OFF: Anime, Tick, Ambush Bug, Spawn Message-ID: With respect this definately belongs some place else, I'm slighthly interested but it's starting to fill my lazy inbox with nonessential HW unrelated trivia. Please desist! I'm pissed as a fart and happy in my work. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu May 27 01:39:02 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 01:39:02 EDT Subject: OFF: done desisted Message-ID: In a message dated 5/26/99 7:12:18 PM, nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET writes: << I'm slighthly interested but it's starting to fill my lazy inbox with nonessential HW unrelated trivia. Please desist!>> yes, yes, it's done it's done and for once i didnt *&^%^(*& start it ,and there were colleagues alongside...whew... gotta keep that inbox primed for any new digital penetration jokes a'comin down the pike...(grin) ^_~ "<>" you saw the (grin), right? From abrevard at SHL.COM Thu May 27 10:31:50 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:31:50 -0500 Subject: OFF: Off List Anime Message-ID: >yeah, but preferably NOT on boc-l Tim "Yeah, well don't count your weasels before they pop dink!" The Tick Since you ask so politely... Ladies and gentlemen can we compile a list of names and take this off line for the benefit or the overly-sensitive? Thanks. Ghost in the Ruins "So he says to me you gotta do something smart baby, something big. Says you want to be a super villain right? And I go yeah baby, yeah yeah, what do I got to do? And he says you got bombs blow up the Comet Club its packed with Superheros, you'll go down in super villain history and I go yeah baby cause I'm the Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight." - Evil Midnight Bomber OBSpawn Comment - Vampire bounty hunters? From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu May 27 10:43:22 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 10:43:22 EDT Subject: OFF: free music from mp3. com Message-ID: actually i didnt contact these folks so this must be junque mail...but in the hopes that the possibilty of free stuff, and the music-related subject, will not offend my ever-vigilant comrades, i remain... "<>" -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: freecd at mp3.com Subject: 103 of the Best Songs You've Never Heard - Free CD Date: 26 May 1999 16:26:09 -0000 Size: 1543 URL: From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu May 27 12:25:27 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:25:27 +0100 Subject: OFF: Tape swap 1999 Message-ID: Now you've all made your tapes, and maybe even mailed them (mine just went in the post), you can reveal their contents to the volunteer moderator, Stuart Hamilton. Send him a list, with title, artist, and maybe even the album it's from, to stuart at zeitgeist-scot.com and he'll put it on his web site (in due course). So we can see how much (or probably how little!) overlap there is between tastes. I think the only actual track that turned up on more than one tape last year was "13" by Johnny Cash... - Andy ObCD: Red Star Belgrade - _End of the Line_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu May 27 14:53:28 1999 From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:53:28 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkeye newsletter Message-ID: Hi Folks I've now sent out all the Hawkeye newsletter atachments, but about eight never got thru and were returned. So, if anyone filled the mailing list form out and hasn't recieved the n/letter, chances are you were one of the eight. Email me or resubmit and I'll get it off to you. Also, if you weren't able to open the Word file, I've now got it on a more acceptable format. All the best Age Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Thu May 27 17:09:12 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel kew) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 22:09:12 +0100 Subject: OFF: done desisted Message-ID: Sorry wasn't trying to piss on any one fireworks but there had been alot, obviously i'm not a net facsist or i wouldn't have post the y2k joke. DOC........... *grinning* also From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu May 27 17:41:44 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 22:41:44 +0100 Subject: OFF : cheap laugh at William Shatner Message-ID: Just make sure u listen to tamborine man !!!! only 150K downloads in seconds. http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/1931/dance.html -- Jon From tclark at PETRONET.NET Fri May 28 05:55:34 1999 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 04:55:34 -0500 Subject: OFF : cheap laugh at William Shatner Message-ID: Ouch!...that even scared my dog out of the room! Jon Browne wrote: > Just make sure u listen to tamborine man !!!! > > only 150K downloads in seconds. > > http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/1931/dance.html > > -- > Jon -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: tclark.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 198 bytes Desc: Card for Tom Clark URL: From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu May 27 18:00:13 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 23:00:13 +0100 Subject: OFF : cheap laugh at William Shatner Message-ID: Cue Leonard Nimoy's "Ballad of Bilbo Baggins" ... :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu May 27 17:58:00 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:58:00 EDT Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond!!!!! Message-ID: just got this email...figured I would pass it along. some great shows this spring!!! +++++ NEWS +++++ Nick Saloman and Adrian Shaw of THE BEVIS FROND will participate in an INSOUND live chat this Friday, May-28 at 6pm EST. (The Insound site says 9pm but it is actually 6pm EST) http://www.insound.com/chat/ +++++ TOUR DATES +++++ THE OLIVIA TREMOR CONTROL May (Japan) 27 - Tokyo - Club Quattro 28 - Tokyo - Guilty June (USA) 12 - NYC - Bell Atlantic Jazz Festival - 9:45pm with The Dirty Three and Hovercraft (Seaport Atrium / South Street Seaport Pier 17) THE BEVIS FROND July 29 - San Francisco - The Great American Music Hall This is a special one-night engagement featuring one set from Country Joe McDonald (backed by The Bevis Frond) and one set from The Bevis Frond. Possible NYC show that weekend ... stay tuned ... TIM KEEGAN & THE HOMER LOUNGE ($ = w The Go-Betweens) June 19 - Hoboken - Maxwells $ 20 - Philadelphia - 5 Spot $ 22 - Providence - The Met $ 23 - Boston - The Paradise $ 24 - Wash DC - 9:30 Club $ 25 - Baltimore - tba $ 26 - NYC - Fez $ THE BEVIS FROND AND SUPER FURRY ANIMALS WILL EACH TOUR THE U.S. IN SEPT/OCT ... STAY TUNED FOR DATES AND VENUE INFORMATION ... *** out now *** THE BEVIS FROND 'Vavona Burr' CD / import 2LP THE OLIVIA TREMOR CONTROL 'Black Foliage' CD / 2LP SUPER FURRY ANIMALS 'Radiator' CD (reissue of 1997 release) *** out July-13 *** SUPER FURRY ANIMALS 'Guerrilla' CD / import 2LP (the new album) *** August / September *** THE MOLES 'Untune the Sky' CD (reissue) THE BEVIS FROND 'Live at The Great American Music Hall' CD for more information, sound clips, band bios and photos, and the most current tour and release information please check out our website: http://www.flydaddy.com Flydaddy PO Box 545 Newport, RI 02840 USA info at flydaddy.com mailorder at flydaddy.com (catalog requests, queries) http://www.flydaddy.com From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Thu May 27 19:48:58 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 08:48:58 +0900 Subject: OFF : cheap laugh at William Shatner Message-ID: Oh please, no... Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > Cue Leonard Nimoy's "Ballad of Bilbo Baggins" ... :) > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic > St. John's College, University of Cambridge > mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk > http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri May 28 01:27:35 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 01:27:35 EDT Subject: OFF : cheap laugh at William Shatner Message-ID: In a message dated 5/27/99 6:00:30 PM, cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK writes: << Cue Leonard Nimoy's "Ballad of Bilbo Baggins" ... :) >> thou beateth me to it, carl-chan...this work schedule i got, y'know... "<>" From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri May 28 04:47:18 1999 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Rich Lockwood) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:47:18 +0100 Subject: OFF: Tape swap 1999 Message-ID: And what a top toon it was too. Scared the hell out of me... :-) Cheers, Rich. ObTape - "Music With A Proper Beat" - Me. :-) > I think the only > actual track that turned up on more than one tape last year was "13" by > Johnny Cash... > > - Andy > From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 28 06:25:38 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:25:38 +0100 Subject: OFF: Shatter(nered) Illusions In-Reply-To: <199905280901.FAA14065@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >Subject: OFF : cheap laugh at William Shatner > >Just make sure u listen to tamborine man !!!! > >only 150K downloads in seconds. > > >http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/1931/dance.html What can I say, Momeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ! Phew ! Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.demon.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Fri May 28 07:19:02 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel kew) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:19:02 +0100 Subject: Tape swap Message-ID: Help my OUTLOOK Express has commited HARI KARI and I've lost who I'm meant to send my tape to and who to send the list to.# DOC............ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri May 28 08:05:40 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:05:40 +0100 Subject: Tape swap Message-ID: On fre 28 maj 1999 12.19 +0100 "nigel kew" wrote: > Help my OUTLOOK Express has commited HARI KARI This explains your HTML ... ;) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri May 28 11:54:03 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 16:54:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Extra gig? Message-ID: Anyone know if this postulated extra Hawkwind gig is going ahead despite the cancellation of the Avalon Convention? And if it will be on the Saturday 5 June? There's a cricket match in Leeds that Sunday and if I'm going to be in the general area a detour that way for a few hours while heading homwards would be most pleasant....... jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Fri May 28 20:11:15 1999 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 01:11:15 +0100 Subject: HW: Extra gig? Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: J Strobridge To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 4:54 PM Subject: HW: Extra gig? > Anyone know if this postulated extra Hawkwind gig is going ahead despite > the cancellation of the Avalon Convention? And if it will be on the > Saturday 5 June? > It looks like there will very likely be NO extra gig on June 5th, there doesn't seem to be anywhere in Burton that is available at such short notice, even the park by the river. Neil From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri May 28 20:35:55 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 01:35:55 +0100 Subject: HW: Extra gig? In-Reply-To: <003701bea967$c5340940$ca22989e@neilward> Message-ID: At 01:11 29/05/99 +0100, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: J Strobridge >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 4:54 PM >Subject: HW: Extra gig? > > >> Anyone know if this postulated extra Hawkwind gig is going ahead despite >> the cancellation of the Avalon Convention? And if it will be on the >> Saturday 5 June? >> > >It looks like there will very likely be NO extra gig on June 5th, there >doesn't seem to be anywhere in Burton that is available at such short >notice, even the park by the river. > >Neil Anybody know ANY good gigs (cheap) in the general area that weekend (i'm currently staying with my sainted mum in Burton!) - it's my b'day on the 4th (I got BOC at the Astoria last year). It's got to be cheap & cheerful 'coz I'm still out of work, but I'd really like to get my brains blown out by something loud!! ChrisW NP: just the fan in my PC - Mum's retired to bed From mlooney at IONET.NET Sat May 29 11:41:41 1999 From: mlooney at IONET.NET (J. Michael Looney) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 15:41:41 GMT Subject: BOC and Comics Message-ID: New Blue Oyster Cult reference found: The current issue of the "gamers" comic book "Knight's of the Dinner Table" (KoDT) is titled "Don't Fear the Reaper" BOC reference aside any body who is into RPGing who doesn't read both KoDT and "Dork Tower" is missing a lot. KoDT is the better of the two, IMHO. -- Sillyness is the last refuse of the doomed. P. Opus http://www.spellbooksoftware.com/epic -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GAT d-- s:- a38 US++ P+ L+ E W+++ N++ K++ w++ O- M- V-- PS+ PE++ Y PGP t++ 5 X R+++ tv+ b++++ DI+++ D G+ e+ h--- r+++ y+++(**) ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sat May 29 11:55:55 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 16:55:55 +0100 Subject: OFF: Hellacopters, London Message-ID: I see that this Swedish outfit are coming to the Garage on June 22nd. Could be fun. They might do "455 SD". :) I expect the usual suspects may be up for it! - Andy ObCD: _Demon Angel: A Day and a Night with Roky Erickson_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sat May 29 05:26:28 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 10:26:28 +0100 Subject: OFF: GONG live pix Message-ID: Adam Strider at Strider News http://members.theglobe.com/stridernews/index.htm sent some live shots of Gong at the Knitting Factory on 27 May which you will find posted at; http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot/gong.htm SAH -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sat May 29 05:29:35 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 10:29:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: TAPE SWAP 99 Message-ID: The first batch of lists are now posted at; http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot/boc99.htm For the historically minded, the 1998 lists are still available. You can find them by going to the Bitter Wind section at the URL below. SAH -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat May 29 17:15:15 1999 From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 22:15:15 +0100 Subject: Web design for Hawkeye Message-ID: Hello folks I know this has no direct link to BOC L, but i'm thinking of getting hold of an upgraded Web Design package to add to the Hawkeye Hawk site. I've been told Micrografx's "Webtricity" has great potential, with stunning graphics, animation, 3D effects and vast amounts of clipart. Does anybody on the list have any other recommendations for web design packages or views on "Webtricity"? I'd appreciate any feedback on this. Contact me direct if you wish, at: age.p at conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk All the best Age Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html From antisol at HOTMAIL.COM Sat May 29 20:09:20 1999 From: antisol at HOTMAIL.COM (The Automind) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 17:09:20 PDT Subject: OFF : cheap laugh at William Shatner Message-ID: >Oh please, no... > >Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > > Cue Leonard Nimoy's "Ballad of Bilbo Baggins" ... :) > > > > -- > > Carl Edlund Anderson > > Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic > > St. John's College, University of Cambridge > > mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk > > http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ > >-- >Dave Greenhalgh > > >ICQ#33513470 A friend of mine actually owns that album!!! I've got a CD copy of it! Did anyone see him performing with that band on Dave Letterman a few weeks ago? _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From flossbac at NLCI.COM Sat May 29 21:46:23 1999 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 20:46:23 -0500 Subject: HW BBC CD? Message-ID: So has anyone heard any further news about this CD of early Hawkwind/Dave Brock BBC tracks which was originally supposed to have been released in March of this year? John Majka flossbac at nlci.com From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat May 29 23:39:50 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 23:39:50 EDT Subject: HW BBC CD? Message-ID: In a message dated 5/29/99 6:55:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, flossbac at NLCI.COM writes: << So has anyone heard any further news about this CD of early Hawkwind/Dave Brock BBC tracks which was originally supposed to have been released in March of this year? John Majka flossbac at nlci.com >> It appears to be on Gemm. the url to the listing follows: http://www3.gemm.com/GEMM/cgi-bin/search.pl?sid=3167415&key=56894&outformat=0& artist=HAWKWIND&title=HAWKWIND+BBC+A It is listed as being in stock. In the past, we've seen people list Hawkwind before they actually have had inventory to sell, so it may be safe to email and ask. space is deep bob http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon May 31 02:40:15 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 02:40:15 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Playlist Message-ID: "Space Does not Care", 5/29/99, 88.3 KUCR, hosted by Chuck (w/assistance from Anish): 1.Nik Turner--Ghost Dance (from NT's Space Ritual) 2.Killing Joke--Requiem (A Floating Leaf Always Reaches the Sea, Dub Mix) 3.Hawkwind--Magnu (from Warrior at the Edge of Time) 4.Anubian Lights--The Fire Breathes 5.Ozric Tentacles--Secrete Names 6.Brainticket--Feel the Wind 7.The Tea Party--Inanna 8.Daniel Lanois--Where the Hawkwind Kills 9.James Johnston--entrance music for Gangrel/The Brood (WWF Theme Songs) 10.Sky Cries Mary--Back to the Sea 11.Gong--Flying Teapot (from Live Etc.) 12.Pressurehed--The Right Stuff 13.Hawkwind--Levitation (from Stonehenge) 14.Subarachnoid Space--Whispers of Momentum 15.David Schwartz--Alaskan Nights (Music from TV series "Northern Exposure") 16.Amon Duul II--Deutsch Nepal (Olaf the Chipmunk mix) 17.Anubian Lights--Vision of a New Homeland 18. " " --Let not the Flame Die Out Thanks, Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon May 31 04:20:48 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 04:20:48 EDT Subject: HW/BOC: COULD it BE? HW CDs for $5 each??? Message-ID: Subject: all new Cd's only $5! From: A Rosenfield Date: Fri, May 28, 1999 21:05 EDT Message-id: <374F3D52.4D8D at earthlink.net> This place is just opening, and all their CD's are only $5! It's a pretty decent deal. http://www.myshopnow.com/musicsearch/ later. ----Followed this guy's note to the site, and they had a shitload of HW titles for $5 each (though ones like 1999 Party were around $25)...after I put Text of Festival in my "shopping cart", it said that the CD was manufactured by K-Tel. Someone on the NG suggested that these may be CDRs...any idea what's going on here? Chuck From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Mon May 31 09:43:29 1999 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 06:43:29 -0700 Subject: HW/BOC: COULD it BE? HW CDs for $5 each??? In-Reply-To: <19c45ca8.2483a060@aol.com> Message-ID: > This place is just opening, and all their CD's are only $5! It's a > pretty decent deal. > http://www.myshopnow.com/musicsearch/ > > later. > > ----Followed this guy's note to the site, and they had a shitload of HW > titles for $5 each (though ones like 1999 Party were around $25)...after I > put Text of Festival in my "shopping cart", it said that the CD was > manufactured by K-Tel. Someone on the NG suggested that these may be > CDRs...any idea what's going on here? Chuck > I went there and clicked on 8 or 9 randomly and they all said "Manufacturer: K-Tel." What kind of scam is this?????? Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon May 31 11:33:19 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 16:33:19 +0100 Subject: HW/BOC: COULD it BE? HW CDs for $5 each??? In-Reply-To: Kevin Sommers's message of Mon, 31 May 1999 06:43:29 -0700 Message-ID: Kevin Sommers writes: > > This place is just opening, and all their CD's are only $5! It's a > > pretty decent deal. > > http://www.myshopnow.com/musicsearch/ > > > > later. > > > > ----Followed this guy's note to the site, and they had a shitload of HW > > titles for $5 each (though ones like 1999 Party were around $25)...after I > > put Text of Festival in my "shopping cart", it said that the CD was > > manufactured by K-Tel. Someone on the NG suggested that these may be > > CDRs...any idea what's going on here? Chuck > > > > > I went there and clicked on 8 or 9 randomly and they all said "Manufacturer: > K-Tel." > > What kind of scam is this?????? > > Kevin Sommers It might be worth checking against the discography but my guess would be that the really cheap CDs will be the "Master of the Universe" "British Tribal Music" "Yuri Gagarin" variants since these (including Text of Festival) have all now been bought out by the insta-endless-rerelease companies. The "Acid Daze" stuff may also be there as well. And check the tracklists against the Codex in case you've already got versions of the tracks somewhere else. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon May 31 17:31:13 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 17:31:13 EDT Subject: HW/BOC: COULD it BE? HW CDs for $5 each??? Message-ID: In a message dated 99-05-31 11:33:41 EDT, you write: << It might be worth checking against the discography but my guess would be that the really cheap CDs will be the "Master of the Universe" "British Tribal Music" "Yuri Gagarin" variants since these (including Text of Festival) have all now been bought out by the insta-endless-rerelease companies. The "Acid Daze" stuff may also be there as well. And check the tracklists against the Codex in case you've already got versions of the tracks somewhere else. jill >> ---This is true, Jill, that many of the $5 CDs are Thunderbolt/Anthology issues, but many still were Stonehenge, Zones, IItBotFtBD, Teepee, etc. So that makes me wonder... btw, I wanted to get "text" because I still haven't heard the track "Improvise...Compromise...Reprise", or whatever it's called. Chuck From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon May 31 17:36:42 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 21:36:42 GMT Subject: HW/BOC: COULD it BE? HW CDs for $5 each??? In-Reply-To: <199905311533.QAA05517@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: (excuses made for typos as my keyboards a bit fucked up at te mo''') >> > This place is just opening, and all their CD's are only $5! It's a >> > pretty decent deal. >> > http://www.myshopnow.com/musicsearch/ There's been a bit of curiousity about thhis place on te bomp list >> I went there and clicked on 8 or 9 randomly and they all said "Manufacturer: >> K-Tel." >It might be worth checking against the discography but my guess would be >that the really cheap CDs will be the In terms of te garage stuff its mostly "bigg" labels suc as Norton, Crypt and Bomp but tere releases are also listed as bein on K-Tel. owever, te followin appeared on toter list and may answer some questions (but not all as te initial caveat implies): "Like many of you I was skeptical of the $4.95 CDs at myshopnow.com, but I figured it couldn't hurt to try, so last week I ordered a CD. Well, it arrived today and I can confirm that it's the real deal. Well, I can confirm that the *CD* is legit-- I still can't confirm if they only charged my credit card $4.95. The reason that K-Tel is listed as the record label is because the CDs are shipped from K-Tel's warehouse in California. But they ARE the original CDs." ope tis elps, andrew From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon May 31 19:43:58 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 19:43:58 EDT Subject: HW/BOC: COULD it BE? could it indeed? Message-ID: In a message dated 5/31/99 5:36:43 PM, andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: <<(excuses made for typos as my keyboards a bit fucked up at te mo''')>> yeeeeah , dar y'go, blem d'ca, na d'driva ^_~ intersting "dialect" spelling y'got goin there..neato... tryna dula quesna d'ezy! (cue the doink w/the answering machine "response" who shows up about now)... (fah kinazo!!) "<>" From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Mon May 31 04:04:43 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 09:04:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: MOTORHEAD US TOUR - SET LIST Message-ID: Thought you might like to know what Lemmy is pumping out these days. The songs being played include; Dead Men Tell No Tales (introduced as "Dead Men Smell Toe Nails") / Bomber / No Class / I'm So Bad / Civil War / Take the Blame / Too Late Too Late / Chase is Better than the Catch / Nothing Up My Sleeve / Born to Raise Hell / Shine / Straight to Hell / Overnight Sensation / Sacrifice / Orgasmatron / Going to Brazil / Iron Fist / Killed by Death encoring with Ace of Spades / Overkill -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com