From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Jun 1 03:52:36 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 08:52:36 +0100 Subject: OFF: Godpseed You Black Emperor! Message-ID: ...are back in London, Thu 15th July, Union Chapel, Islington. Those who missd them in April, don't miss them again! - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 1 05:32:09 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 10:32:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Improvise...Compromise [was COULD it BE? HW CDs for $5 each???] In-Reply-To: Chuck Rosenberg's message of Mon, 31 May 1999 17:31:13 EDT Message-ID: Chuck Rosenberg writes: > btw, I wanted to get "text" because I still haven't heard the track > "Improvise...Compromise...Reprise", or whatever it's called. Chuck Ah - I'm fairly sure this still doesn't exist in CD format. Despite what it keeps saying on the packaging they havn't managed to include this final track on any of the reissues (someone correct me if I'm wrong here please!). The vinyl is still occasionally around on mail order lists though so it should be track-downable. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Tue Jun 1 08:30:28 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 22:30:28 +1000 Subject: (Fwd) Re: HW/BOC: COULD it BE? HW CDs for $5 each??? Message-ID: On 31 May 99, at 6:43, Kevin Sommers wrote: > > http://www.myshopnow.com/musicsearch/ > > I went there and clicked on 8 or 9 randomly and they all said > "Manufacturer: K-Tel." > > What kind of scam is this?????? Well, I did the obvious thing and did a search for Hawkwind titles at http://www.ktel.com, and guess what? The exact same CD's are listed there, but with surprisingly higher prices. Many of the CD's on the k-tel site list the original label (such as Griffin), so it seems that K-tel are just distributing, not pressing these titles Soniqu? -- PO Box 378 Paul Ward Ashburton http://sonique.net VIC 3147 (time permitting) Mob:0418 524744 sonique at sonique.net From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Jun 1 08:40:42 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 13:40:42 +0100 Subject: (Fwd) Re: HW/BOC: COULD it BE? HW CDs for $5 each??? Message-ID: On tis 1 jun 1999 22.30 +1000 Soniqu? wrote: > On 31 May 99, at 6:43, Kevin Sommers wrote: >> > http://www.myshopnow.com/musicsearch/ >> >> I went there and clicked on 8 or 9 randomly and they all said >> "Manufacturer: K-Tel." >> What kind of scam is this?????? > > Well, I did the obvious thing and did a search for Hawkwind titles at > http://www.ktel.com, and guess what? The exact same CD's are listed there, > but with surprisingly higher prices. Many of the CD's on the k-tel site > list the original label (such as Griffin), so it seems that K-tel are just > distributing, not pressing these titles I more or less instantly assumed this was the case, and that the record-selling place couldn't distinguish between distributor and and maker (which doesn't inspire a *lot* of confidence in their services!). Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Tue Jun 1 10:13:56 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:13:56 +0100 Subject: BOC:Live Review Message-ID: There's a review of the BOC show at Parker's Casino, Seattle on February 18 in the May/June issue of Experience Hendrix magazine, with a b&w photo. They liked. Z NP Dan Hicks & His Hot Licks -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Tue Jun 1 07:31:50 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:31:50 +0000 Subject: BOC: Wherefore art thou? Message-ID: Haven't seen any reviews of shows lately. I'm hoping against hope that this means the Oyster Boys are off the road and in the studio working on next year's studio album. . . . . . ? -- Nick From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Jun 1 12:16:51 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 17:16:51 +0100 Subject: BOC: Wherefore art thou? Message-ID: Well, because that's the name Sandy gave them? Or do you mean _where_ instead of "wherefore"? :) Moreover, I assume you refer to BOC as a collective singular, since the plural would require "are ye" ... :) picking nits :) Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 1 13:27:37 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:27:37 +0100 Subject: HW: Magma review Message-ID: I found this on another mailing list but since it is semi-Hawkwind related and fairly quiet here just now I thought folk might be interested to read it. Sounds like they are worth catching if anyone sees an advert for the tour in time. jill > --------------------------------------------------------- > Rock review, Magma at Martyrs > By Rick Reger > SPECIAL TO THE TRIBUNE > Sunday, May 30, 1999 > > Move over George Lucas! You're not the only galactic mythmaker in town. > > On Friday night at Martyrs, French prog-rock legends Magma took a room of > diehard fans on a remarkable round-trip voyage to the planet Kobaia. While > the journey may have been short on cinematic special effects, it featured > nearly two hours of some of the most strangely beautiful and powerful > music this part of the cosmos has ever heard. > > Magma is the brainchild of drummer Christian Vander, who formed the band > in the early '70s to perform a vast, futuristic opus he had conceived > about the spiritual, ecological decline of Earth and a group of > enlightened ex-Earthlings and their utopian society on the planet Kobaia. > Over the course of Magma's first 10 records, Vander detailed his visionary > Earth-Kobaia conflict in a blend of complex, highly original music and > hazy, non-sequential narrative that proved bewildering to some listeners > and downright daft to others. > > But over time, fans of adventurous music have increasingly come to regard > Vander's Kobaian cycle as something more than an extravagant prog-era > fairy tale. As a result, Vander reconvened Magma several years ago to > revisit the band's eccentric '70s oeuvre. > > That oeuvre was brought brilliantly to life at Martyrs by a seven-piece > Magma that displayed a virtuosity and commitment to music more commonly > seen at the Jazz Showcase or Orchestra Hall than at rock clubs. > > The twin highlights of the band's set were "Kohntarkosz" and "Mekanik > Destruktiw Kommandoh"--two half-hour chapters in the Kobaian saga that > brimmed with sweeping grandeur and singularly rugged rhythmic intensity. > Neither "songs" nor suites, both pieces unfolded one or two musical motifs > into ever-shifting sets of variations that encompassed gently melodic > interludes and volcanic crescendos. > > Although Magma's music incorporates elements of jazz fusion, classical > cantatas and progressive rock, Vander has fused those influences into a > vernacular as unique and colorful as the Kobaian language he invented for > his lyrics. Wordless, three-part vocal harmonies floated above rippling > electric piano figures; thick dissonant chord clusters punctuated martial > rhythms, giving way to grand operatic codas. > > But it was the almost religious fervor that the band brought to this music > that made the set so memorable. Vocalists Stella Vander, Antoine Paganotti > and Isabelle Feuillebois articulated both abstract vocalise passages and > sang Kobaian narratives with devotional rapture. > > Guitarist James McGaw and pianist Emmanuel Borghi were no less focused, > but it was the rhythm section that virtually stole the show. Vander deftly > sprayed the music with explosive sheets of sound from his drums, giving > the pieces a tangible, physical presence. And bassist Philippe Bussonnet > laced the set with lines of both liquid gentility and gut-rumbling > thunder. > > It's a testament to Vander's creativity and his band's skill that Magma > could create such a sometimes-otherworldly musical experience using > nothing more than standard instruments. And it's safe to say that > virtually everyone on Friday night's journey is eagerly looking forward to > another ride. ---- End of forwarded text ---- ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Tue Jun 1 19:33:35 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:33:35 +0900 Subject: BOC: Wherefore art thou? Message-ID: They were in Tokyo a couple of weeks ago. Missed the show, though. "" wrote: > Haven't seen any reviews of shows lately. I'm hoping against hope > that this means the Oyster Boys are off the road and in the studio > working on next year's studio album. . . . . . ? > > -- Nick -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed Jun 2 08:43:32 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 08:43:32 -0400 Subject: BOC: Wherefore art thou? Message-ID: Not too much to report on the BOC front these days - but this I know: 1. The band is back from touring Japan for the first time in around 20 years. 2. The (4th?) annual BOC Barbeque was just held in the LA area this past weekend -- from what I hear, it was a real good time for about 75 people. The highlight of the weekend was a performance by the "Soft White Understudy" - a band consisting of BOC Fanclub leaders Bolle Gregmar (drums, vocals) and Melne Murphy (guitar, vocals) with some various other friends. They played many obscure BOC tune - check out this for a cool setlist: Les Invisibles Shadow of California Workshop of the Telescopes Baby Ice Dog Cagey Cretins Havester of Eyes Teen Archer Mistress of the Salmon Salt Boorman the Chauffer Tattoo Vampire Divine Wind Nosferatu Monsters Searchin' for Celine Tenderloin Dominance and Submission 3. I hear another Sony BOC compilation will be out this month (oh yay...) 4. Uncle Albert tells us that disc 2 of the next tBS release has been done and those of us on the mailing list should be getting something very soon. 5. Version 3.1 of the BOC FAQ will be out sometime this summer. John From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Jun 3 09:04:52 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:04:52 EDT Subject: OFF: GONG in LA, 6/2/99 Message-ID: The line-up was Daevid, Gylli, M. Howlett, Malherbe; the other two (guit and drums) are new to the band. The guitarist was good, fit in well w/the Gong thing, and was the most energetic. The drummer was good, but could not do the things Pierre M. could. Daevid and Gylli both wore several extravagantly silly costumes and played the auidence well. The set-list was something like this: 1.IAO Chant (or Magick Mother Invocation)/Master Builder 2.a song I didn't recognize 3.You Can't Kill Me 4.Flute Salad/Oily Way/Inner and Outer Temple 5.Prostitute Poem 6.Eat that Phonebook 7.Isle of Everywhere/You Never Blow Yr Trip Forever encore: 8. Tropical Fish: Selene That's it; they only played and 90 minutes. They _are_ getting up their in years, though, I'm sure Daevid has broken 60 and he looks 70. Gylli was still as sexy as she could be at her age. I thought they could have used a keys/synthesist, but the "gliss" guitar and space-whisper somewhat made up for that. The place (House of Blues) was the proper size, a club, but not claustrophobic; great acoustics. I stood right in the front row and was six feet away from Allen. It was interesting to see the glissando guitar up close. I've been listening to Gong for about 4 years and never knew what the hell a "glissando" guitar was. Also, there was a sound I heard in Gong which I thought was a synth. Well, now I know it was the gliss; he just rubs this whammy-bar shaped thing against the strings... Best part was You Never Blow yr Trip Forever, where, during the "You are I and I am You", Daevid bent down along the front row, shaking hands, kissing, hugging fans, singing that line to them--He tussled my hair; not sure why. After the gig, I picked up the double-CD "You Re-mixed", techno-ized versions of You songs, same sort of thing as the Future Reconstructions/HW remixes... Overall, good, but they could have played longer and the band could be a bit more filled out. And I could have met some Hawkwind fans! :) Chuck From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Jun 3 09:22:54 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:22:54 -0400 Subject: BOC: Brief reference in "The Onion" Message-ID: http://www.theonion.com/onion3521/zeppelin_sticker.html "Led Zeppelin Bumper Stickers Now Probable Cause For Vehicular Search In 13 States" Brian From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Thu Jun 3 09:32:48 1999 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:32:48 +0100 Subject: OFF: GONG in LA, 6/2/99 In-Reply-To: <9fc04c4e.2487d774@aol.com> Message-ID: At 09:04 03/06/99 EDT, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: >I've been listening to Gong for about 4 years and never knew what the >hell a "glissando" guitar was. Also, there was a sound I heard in Gong which >I thought was a synth. Well, now I know it was the gliss; he just rubs this >whammy-bar shaped thing against the strings... Dave does that for HW, too. Dave. Languages Group Manager. Harlequin Ltd., Lismore House, 127 George St, Edinburgh, EH2 4JN, UK. Tel: +44 131 240 6106. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jun 3 08:27:52 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:27:52 -0400 Subject: OFF: GONG in LA, 6/2/99 Message-ID: Chuck said... >The line-up was Daevid, Gylli, M. Howlett, Malherbe; the other two (guit and >drums) are new to the band. The guitarist was good, fit in well w/the Gong >thing, and was the most energetic. Mark Hewins is his name. And I was amazed to see that his nose is perhaps even larger than Daevid's. :) I thought he was average at best. Steffe was the better choice, but I guess he wasn't available. >The drummer was good, but could not do the things Pierre M. could. Chris Taylor is his name, and was a last minute replacement of course. I thought he did just fine, and in fact, I preferred him to Pip Pyle on the previous tours. >Daevid and Gylli both wore several extravagantly silly costumes and played >the auidence well. > >The set-list was something like this: > >1.IAO Chant (or Magick Mother Invocation)/Master Builder >2.a song I didn't recognize I think this might have been 'Pussy' from Camembert...at least that's the way they did it at ProgFest. >6.Eat that Phonebook This was the highlight at ProgFest...wonderful version. >That's it; they only played and 90 minutes. They _are_ getting up their in >years, though, I'm sure Daevid has broken 60 and he looks 70. Daevid has apparently been ill...at least I heard that's why he didn't perform with University of Errors at ProgFest on Sunday as was scheduled. >It was interesting to see the glissando guitar up >close. I've been listening to Gong for about 4 years and never knew what the >hell a "glissando" guitar was. Also, there was a sound I heard in Gong which >I thought was a synth. Well, now I know it was the gliss; he just rubs this >whammy-bar shaped thing against the strings... Apparently, the object is a piece from a 19th c. French speculum, or at least that's the long-perpetuated story/myth that I've always heard. Appropriate in a way. :) Keith H. (FAA) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jun 3 09:55:53 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:55:53 -0400 Subject: HW: Mission Control? Message-ID: Hi Folks... Anybody try to connect to the Mission Control site lately?? I got some sort of silly 'congratulatory' response, but no HW homepage. Anyone know what's up with that? BTW, what the hell ever happened to Dale's 'official' Hawkwind homepage. It came back online after a long sleep, but then has never been updated since. Looks like Age's site has sort of become the one to check for current updates by default. Keith H. (FAA) From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jun 3 11:18:43 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:18:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: GONG in LA, 6/2/99 In-Reply-To: Dave Berry's message of Thu, 3 Jun 1999 14:32:48 +0100 Message-ID: Dave Berry writes: > At 09:04 03/06/99 EDT, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > >I've been listening to Gong for about 4 years and never knew what the > >hell a "glissando" guitar was. Also, there was a sound I heard in Gong which > >I thought was a synth. Well, now I know it was the gliss; he just rubs this > >whammy-bar shaped thing against the strings... > > Dave does that for HW, too. Looks to me just like one of those Made In Sheffield, tin-plated dinner table knives - the type that are so blunt you can't even cut vegetables with. But I'm just gazing at a rather blurry video so I've no idea in honesty! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jun 3 11:35:27 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:35:27 +0100 Subject: HW: Mission Control? In-Reply-To: Keith Henderson's message of Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:55:53 -0400 Message-ID: Keith Henderson writes: > Hi Folks... > > Anybody try to connect to the Mission Control site lately?? > > I got some sort of silly 'congratulatory' response, but no HW homepage. > > Anyone know what's up with that? > > BTW, what the hell ever happened to Dale's 'official' Hawkwind homepage. It > came back online after a long sleep, but then has never been updated since. Just the usual Nova Drive failure I suspect. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jun 3 11:40:34 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:40:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Magma review In-Reply-To: J Strobridge's message of Tue, 1 Jun 1999 18:27:37 +0100 Message-ID: J Strobridge writes: > I found this on another mailing list but since it is semi-Hawkwind > related and fairly quiet here just now I thought folk might be > interested to read it. Sounds like they are worth catching if anyone > sees an advert for the tour in time. Yeah, Magma, along with Eloy and Nektar, are a band I've always wanted to see. No rumours of a British tour I suppose? FoFP From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jun 3 11:50:30 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:50:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Mission Control? In-Reply-To: Keith Henderson's message of Thu, 3 Jun 1999 09:55:53 -0400 Message-ID: Keith Henderson writes: > Hi Folks... > > Anybody try to connect to the Mission Control site lately?? > > I got some sort of silly 'congratulatory' response, but no HW homepage. > > Anyone know what's up with that? fascinating. Seems like we are being offered free webspace! Not sure how deep I dare go into it but all the links seem to work as far as I've gone. > BTW, what the hell ever happened to Dale's 'official' Hawkwind homepage. It > came back online after a long sleep, but then has never been updated since. no - nothing new has been added since it returned. The Mission Control letters page was extremely active last time I read it! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jun 3 11:54:56 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:54:56 +0100 Subject: HW: Magma review In-Reply-To: M Holmes's message of Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:40:34 +0100 Message-ID: M Holmes writes: > Yeah, Magma, along with Eloy and Nektar, are a band I've always wanted > to see. > > No rumours of a British tour I suppose? If only! I think they were in the States for a Progfest. I don't s'pose anyone could tempt them to turn up at the Buxton BADAM festival?! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jun 3 12:09:09 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:09:09 -0400 Subject: HW: Magma review Message-ID: Mike said... >Yeah, Magma, along with Eloy and Nektar, are a band I've always wanted >to see. Well, here's my 'review' of the event (that I posted on the Porky Tree mailing list yesterday)...for those interested. Note that Magma will play in NYC soon...is it the 8th?? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Got back yesterday from my trip out west for ProgFest (and a quickie trip to the Tahoe region). This was the best concert event I've ever seen...and my concert-going goes back as far as 1980 (starting with Judas Priest/Whitesnake/Iron Maiden triple-bill if you're curious). There were really only three bands (out of the 8, or 11 - if you count the loby entertainment) that were really key from my perspective. And from most others' perspectives from what I could tell. Gong, PT, and Magma. Whereas I've only listened to PT and Magma each for about 4 years now, I first heard Gong somewhere around 1983. And after I got past the pretentious weirdness and pseudo-Buddhist mythology, I eventually recognized the brilliance and innovative nature of their music. So I'm a huge Gong-fan these days, as I should be. :) So they were definitely the highlight of Saturday night. Of course, the audience certainly included a slew of purist progheads with no sense of humor, but still their set was pretty well received. Especially since they haven't always been a band too concerned with technical playing. They're more loose and hippy-dippy than the average 'prog' band. But just the fact that Bloomdido was there (on multiple woodwinds) made it special...he's a genius. I'm sorry that Pierre Moerlen wasn't there on drums, but Chris Taylor was not too shabby. In fact, I thought he fit in better than Pip Pyle on the previous tours. Mark Hewins on guitar didn't add much, and in fact, a couple of his solo parts seemed to ramble on without much purpose. Steffe Sharpstrings was better, although lead guitar really has never been the crucial aspect of Gong's music. Steve Hillage played some really nice things in the classic lineup, but really wasn't a dominant feature of the music. So Hewins' lapses weren't that much of a downer. Daevid and Gilli were their normal selves, and are always interesting visually as much as aurally. So their set made Day 1 worthwhile alone. Although it ran quite late (but not as late as Sunday!), and I heard they took way too long to do a soundcheck. The first half of Sunday was decent enough...the delays were there again, but at least they had entertainment going in the lobby ahead of the main show. Mushroom, a band that I've grown quite fond of, played for 40 minutes first, but to only a very small audience as most folks hadn't yet arrived. I liked their stuff, but it was a little too subtle. I'd like to see them play a true set on their own in a club setting before I judge. Daevid was *supposed* to show up to do a short set with Mushroom members as the "University of Errors" (whose CD was just released - I got one from the Gong table - pretty good), but I guess he wasn't up to it. :( But Gilli did a set with members of Azigza, a Eastern-style band that played later, and they were called Gongmatrix. The violinist (in both groups) played really interesting stuff, and in fact at times sounded like Steve Hillage's guitar/synth playing. He should have played in place of 'lead guitar' in Gong, I think. :) The first two acts on Sunday were Lana Lane & Rocket Scientists, who were better than I expected (but rather ordinary), and Buckethead, who (at least this time) is a gimmick-artist (costumes, props, bizarre movies) who plays solo guitar (and bass) atop piped-in industrial rock backing. His acoustic pieces were melodic and quite nice, but other times he just played Van Halen-style 'hammer-on' (?) solos that went on endlessly. Very talented guy, but not very much of interest to me. Porcupine Tree finally came on (probably about 90 minutes after scheduled), and were very strong. The audience were very much into the music, and they were the first to be called back out for an encore (Radioactive Toy). Even Less (album version) opened the set, PL next. Voyage 34 was in there somewhere, and really took off towards the end...a highlight. Signify was monstrous, and blew the roof off the place...very impressive. They played this as an encore in Baltimore (in 1996), and I don't remember that version as being as energetic as this one. Chris Maitland is fabulous. Again, his presence is hardly noticeable on SD (a shame!), and Coma Divine is my favourite PT album, simply because it shows CM as he really plays (and the track selection is damn good as well). But the true highlight of the event (for me) was Magma. I really went out there to see them first and foremost (having already seen Gong and PT before, and will soon again, here in Cleveland in the next week). Magma, though, hasn't ever been here before (I don't think), and they only did Chicago and LA (and NYC next week), so I had to travel a long distance anyway if I wanted to see them. It wasn't a waste of time and money, not in the slightest. Their performance was the finest thing I've ever witnessed. And I don't think Magma will ever rise above Gong, or Hawkwind, or 10 various krautrock groups on my list of alltime favourites, which means I'm more likely to enjoy 'less technical' playing than 'more technical' (i.e., wanky) groups, but they (Magma) are different. Wanky, yes, but in a way that seems poignant and moving to me....never aimless at all. And also, they played stuff only from their 'classic' period (Kohntarkosz, MDK, and Hhai) which while I like it, I don't like it nearly as much as their later, more jazzy and or gospely material (Attahk and Udu Wudu). But still, their 100-minute set was the best musical performance I've ever seen. Most of the band members weren't original...in fact, I think only Christian and Stella Vander performed on the 70s albums, so I wondered if they could pull it off...but I needn't worry. The bassist, guitarist, keyboardist, everyone was brilliant. Jannick Top (legendary Magma bassist) couldn't himself have 'Topped' this guy on bass. And the fact that they use basic instrumentation...Gibson guitar, Hammond keyboard, Pearl drums - but yet sound so completely different than anything I'd ever heard before - is another amazing thing about Magma. I don't understand a word of Kobaian, but it really doesn't matter, you know? I'm sorry to those who didn't bother to see them in Chicago/LA, as it might have been a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. And even if you've heard them and didn't much care for it, perhaps one day it'll grab you. (Although I must say, I loved them instantly.) Anyway, PT and Magma together basically made the initial 3/4 of the festival irrelevant. And I thought it was going pretty damn well (delays aside) up to that point. As I said....best concert event I've ever seen. Hope to see some of you in Cleveland Saturday...I'll be the guy in the white Tangle Edge T-shirt, 6'0" 190#, lt. brown hair, probably handing out flyers. Stop and say hello.... >No rumours of a British tour I suppose? Don't think so, but it might be a good excuse to go to this year's Berg Herzburg festival in Germany. Keith H. (FAA) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jun 3 12:54:16 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:54:16 -0400 Subject: HW: Magma review Message-ID: Mike said... >Yeah, Magma, along with Eloy and Nektar, are a band I've always wanted >to see. Oh, yeah, all three are (sort of) active these days (Eloy toured around Germany supporting Ocean II (excellent, by the way) back in December), so there's still a chance. And Nektar's long-rumoured reunion is still (I guess) likely to happen, although there's been a delay due to Roye Albrighton's recent liver transplant. You can read about it in the guestbook at www.nektar.com. He seems to be feeling better now, which is good news. The band I really wanted to see was Amon D??l II, but I have heard that they have parted company once again, after only a few sporadic reunion shows in Japan, Germany, and London. Too bad. :( I don't know if they ever played in the US their entire career. Keith H. (FAA) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Jun 3 15:13:07 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 12:13:07 -0700 Subject: OFF: GONG in LA, 6/2/99 Message-ID: On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:18:43 +0100, J Strobridge wrote: >Dave Berry writes: >> At 09:04 03/06/99 EDT, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: >> >I've been listening to Gong for about 4 years and never knew what the >> >hell a "glissando" guitar was. Also, there was a sound I heard in Gong which >> >I thought was a synth. Well, now I know it was the gliss; he just rubs this >> >whammy-bar shaped thing against the strings... The guitar signal also needs to be running through some sort of delay (either analog or digital will work); this is a very fun technique! >> Dave does that for HW, too. > >Looks to me just like one of those Made In Sheffield, tin-plated >dinner table knives - the type that are so blunt you can't even cut >vegetables with. But I'm just gazing at a rather blurry video so >I've no idea in honesty! Fortunately, in the US, one inevitably gets to see Hawkwind up close and personal in fairly small clubs. Indeed, Dave has always appeared to favor cheap flatware for this purpose. I was raiding the silverware drawer and cranking up the delay the day after I first saw Hawkwind (fall '89) and saw how Glissando Guitar works! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jun 3 17:36:05 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel kew) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 22:36:05 +0100 Subject: Nik T's all stars Message-ID: To All, Nik Turners All Stars are appearing at the Cooperage in Plymouth on Tuesday the 8th June. For all those who can't make it I will post a revue as soon as, As to those who can see you there. DOC.............. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abrevard at SHL.COM Thu Jun 3 18:21:23 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 15:21:23 -0700 Subject: BOC: Wherefore art thou? Message-ID: >Not too much to report on the BOC front these days - but this I know: >1. The band is back from touring Japan for the first time in around 20 years. Smashing! Hope they had fun. >2. The (4th?) annual BOC Barbeque was just held in the LA area this > past weekend -- from what I hear, it was a real good time for about 75 > people. The highlight of the weekend was a performance by the "Soft > White Understudy" - a band consisting of BOC Fanclub leaders Bolle > Gregmar (drums, vocals) and Melne Murphy (guitar, vocals) with some > various other friends. They played many obscure BOC tune - check out > this for a cool setlist: > > Les Invisibles > Shadow of California > Workshop of the Telescopes > Baby Ice Dog > Cagey Cretins > Havester of Eyes > Teen Archer > Mistress of the Salmon Salt > Boorman the Chauffer > Tattoo Vampire > Divine Wind > Nosferatu > Monsters > Searchin' for Celine > Tenderloin > Dominance and Submission > Too kewl. Can't wait for the CD! >3. I hear another Sony BOC compilation will be out this month (oh yay...) You are kidding aren't you? >4. Uncle Albert tells us that disc 2 of the next tBS release has been > done and those of us on the mailing list should be getting something > very soon. > Oh getting busy in New York! >5. Version 3.1 of the BOC FAQ will be out sometime this summer. This summer? Do we have to wait that long? Good to see you are still around John. L8er Ghost in the Ruins NP: Galactic Cowboys - Machine Fish > John > > ------------------------------ > > End of BOC-L Digest - 2 Jun 1999 to 3 Jun 1999 > ********************************************** > From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Jun 3 19:31:14 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:31:14 EDT Subject: OFF: GONG in LA, 6/2/99 Message-ID: In a message dated 99-06-03 09:40:04 EDT, you write: << Chuck said... >The line-up was Daevid, Gylli, M. Howlett, Malherbe; the other two (guit and >drums) are new to the band. The guitarist was good, fit in well w/the Gong >thing, and was the most energetic. Mark Hewins is his name. And I was amazed to see that his nose is perhaps even larger than Daevid's. :) ---You're right! I thought he was average at best. Steffe was the better choice, but I guess he wasn't available. ---I've never seen Steffe, but I thought Mark was perfect. Not that I'm a judge of musicians, esp. live performances, since I'm not big on concerts. >The drummer was good, but could not do the things Pierre M. could. Chris Taylor is his name, and was a last minute replacement of course. I thought he did just fine, and in fact, I preferred him to Pip Pyle on the previous tours. ---Yes, he did fine, of course. But I'm used to Pierre's amazing fills. >Daevid and Gylli both wore several extravagantly silly costumes and played >the auidence well. > >The set-list was something like this: > >1.IAO Chant (or Magick Mother Invocation)/Master Builder >2.a song I didn't recognize I think this might have been 'Pussy' from Camembert...at least that's the way they did it at ProgFest. ---That's correct, it was "I am your Pussy", though I think that's originally from Flying Teapot, not CE. >6.Eat that Phonebook This was the highlight at ProgFest...wonderful version. >That's it; they only played and 90 minutes. ---Come to think of it, considering the price of the ticket ($18), 90 minutes _was_ weak, but I guess I shouldn't complain, eps. if Allen is getting over an illness. I won't go to the store when I'm sick, much less perform a concert. They _are_ getting up their in >years, though, I'm sure Daevid has broken 60 and he looks 70. Daevid has apparently been ill...at least I heard that's why he didn't perform with University of Errors at ProgFest on Sunday as was scheduled. >It was interesting to see the glissando guitar up >close. I've been listening to Gong for about 4 years and never knew what the >hell a "glissando" guitar was. Also, there was a sound I heard in Gong which >I thought was a synth. Well, now I know it was the gliss; he just rubs this >whammy-bar shaped thing against the strings... Apparently, the object is a piece from a 19th c. French speculum, or at least that's the long-perpetuated story/myth that I've always heard. Appropriate in a way. :) Keith H. (FAA) >> ---And what is a speculum? Too lazy to get the dictionary right now, Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Jun 3 19:44:42 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:44:42 EDT Subject: OFF: GONG in LA, 6/2/99 Message-ID: In a message dated 99-06-03 15:18:25 EDT, you write: << Fortunately, in the US, one inevitably gets to see Hawkwind up close and personal in fairly small clubs. Indeed, Dave has always appeared to favor cheap flatware for this purpose. I was raiding the silverware drawer and cranking up the delay the day after I first saw Hawkwind (fall '89) and saw how Glissando Guitar works! -Doug >> ---Interesting. Allen's style must be pretty unique, though, 'cause I've never heard anything like it in HW or anything else. BTW, what is the origin/meaning of the word "glissando"? Chuck From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jun 3 21:13:46 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:13:46 -0500 Subject: OFF: GONG in LA, 6/2/99 Message-ID: << Fortunately, in the US, one inevitably gets to see Hawkwind up close and personal in fairly small clubs. Indeed, Dave has always appeared to favor cheap flatware for this purpose. I was raiding the silverware drawer and cranking up the delay the day after I first saw Hawkwind (fall '89) and saw how Glissando Guitar works! -Doug >> ---Interesting. Allen's style must be pretty unique, though, 'cause I've never heard anything like it in HW or anything else. BTW, what is the origin/meaning of the word "glissando"? Chuck Hey now, ***Glissando*** is a classical music term; in notation it refers to moving the pitch evenly up or down from one note to another without reference to any interval scale, though usually from one 12-tone note to another, it is frequently used in microtonal or atonal music and on analog synths in electronic music. The proliferation of MIDI digital synths has made it more difficult for the player to "gliss" very widely, only a couple of notes up or down usually, using the 'pitch wheel'. Its a much easier proposition on stringed instruments and voice, especially fretless strings like the cello and violin. Aside from Daevid Allen and Dave Brock from HW, the only other instances I can point to as examples are Jimmy Page of led zeppelin (Whole Lotta Love, Dazed & Confused) and Bill Buitenheys (ex-Architectural Metaphor, on their Oddyseum Galacti CD), Bill used a #1 Phillips screwdriver held by the tip with the handle touching the strings. "Bottle-neck" guitar playing in the Blues and pedal-steel in rock or country music (listen to Buddy Cage on Finally Balanced's "Fondue") have quite a bit of glissando. BTW- Mary and I are back on the list after a couple of years; we're writing a book about HW at Dave Brocks invitation. If anyone has any anecdotes or stories, or reviews of the band in the US before 1978, please send them along. The Kadu Flyer as a hardcopy newsletter is gone, there was just no way to support 5,500+ subscribers for free... but we will continue to pass any info we get from the band on, through this list and our coming website. Chris B/kaduflyer at worldnet.att.net From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Jun 3 20:20:04 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 01:20:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: GONG in LA, 6/2/99 In-Reply-To: <2d5bb4d2.24886d6a@aol.com> Message-ID: At 19:44 03/06/99 EDT, you wrote: >---And what is a speculum? Too lazy to get the dictionary right now, Chuck speculum // n. (pl. specula / /) 1 Surgery an instrument for dilating the cavities of the human body for inspection. 2 a mirror, usu. of polished metal, esp. (formerly) in a reflecting telescope. 3 a lustrous coloured area on the wing of some birds, esp. ducks. [Latin, = mirror, from specere ?to look?] >BTW, what is the origin/meaning of the word "glissando"? Chuck glissando // n. (pl. glissandi / / or -os) Mus. a continuous slide of adjacent notes upwards or downwards. [Italian from French glissant ?sliding? (as glissade)] Your erudite (with the help of the Concise Oxford Dictionary) correspondent ChrisW (43 today, 43 today - and feeling about 93!) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Jun 3 20:59:50 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:59:50 -0700 Subject: OFF: GONG in LA, 6/2/99 Message-ID: On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:44:42 EDT, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: >In a message dated 99-06-03 15:18:25 EDT, you write: > ><< Fortunately, in the US, one inevitably gets to see Hawkwind up close and > personal in fairly small clubs. Indeed, Dave has always appeared to favor > cheap flatware for this purpose. I was raiding the silverware drawer and > cranking up the delay the day after I first saw Hawkwind (fall '89) and saw > how Glissando Guitar works! -Doug >> > >---Interesting. Allen's style must be pretty unique, though, 'cause I've >never heard anything like it in HW or anything else. Check out the break (after all the verses are through) in "Horn of Destiny" (last song on 'Chronicle of the Black Sword'). Dave's playing glissando guitar there, and also sweeping the knife up the fretboard with the delay turned on for those swooping noises. I think it sounds very much like Daevid Allen there. I can't recall any specific instances of glissando guitar on 'Palace Springs' or 'California Brainstorm', but I do remember Dave using that technique quite a bit on those two US tours; I'll have to give those a listen when I get the chance. >BTW, what is the origin/meaning of the word "glissando"? Chuck On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:13:46 -0500 Christopher Bruce wrote: >***Glissando*** is a classical music term; in notation it refers to >moving the pitch evenly up or down from one note to another without >reference to any interval scale, though usually from one 12-tone note >to another, it is frequently used in microtonal or atonal music and on >analog synths in electronic music. The proliferation of MIDI digital >synths has made it more difficult for the player to "gliss" very >widely, only a couple of notes up or down usually, using the 'pitch >wheel'. Its a much easier proposition on stringed instruments and >voice, especially fretless strings like the cello and violin. To clarify a bit, Glissando refers to moving the pitch evenly, BUT DISCRETELY, from one note to another, in effect playing all the notes on your chosen scale (usually a 12-tone one, as Chris states) between the original and final notes. This is actually easy to do with MIDI, but impossible (OK, next-to-impossible) to do with a fretless instrument. It's also difficult to do on an analog synthesizer, as a quantizer is required to convert all the tones in between two adjacent notes on a scale into the closest of those two notes. If the movement is done CONTINUOUSLY, instead of discretely, it's Portamento, NOT Glissando. This is easy to do with fretless instruments, trombones, and analog (voltage-controlled) synthesizers, but difficult (if not impossible) to do on fretted instruments or digital (MIDI-controlled) synthesizers, except by using the pitch wheel, as Chris states. > Aside from Daevid Allen and Dave Brock from HW, the only other >instances I can point to as examples are Jimmy Page of led zeppelin >(Whole Lotta Love, Dazed & Confused) The glissando-like sounds that Jimmy Page gets on these songs are mostly from bowed guitar (similar, but not *quite* the same) or Theremin (not a guitar at all!). I don't think he played Glissando guitar in the Brock/Allen sense (but I could be wrong). >and Bill Buitenheys >(ex-Architectural Metaphor, on their Oddyseum Galacti CD), Bill used a >#1 Phillips screwdriver held by the tip with the handle touching thestrings. Sonic Youth also used this technique (with drumsticks, too) on their early albums ('Confusion is Sex', 'Bad Moon Rising', etc.). >BTW- Mary and I are back on the list after a couple of years ... Welcome back, guys! Good to see you again!! and lastly, on Fri, 4 Jun 1999 01:20:04 +0100, Chris Warburton wrote: >At 19:44 03/06/99 EDT, you wrote: >>---And what is a speculum? Too lazy to get the dictionary right now, Chuck > >speculum // n. (pl. specula / /) >1 Surgery an instrument for dilating the cavities of the human body for >inspection. Uh, this generally refers to a specific cavity of the human body that the (vast?) majority of the members of this list do not possess (and those few who do are probably disgusted that we would have to ask)! >2 a mirror, usu. of polished metal, esp. (formerly) in a reflecting telescope. In an entirely practical sense, I've been told that fabricating Specula from plastic instead of metal has been one of the greatest achievements of modern medical technology. I certainly don't have any first-hand experience to base this on, however. >3 a lustrous coloured area on the wing of some birds, esp. ducks. >[Latin, = mirror, from specere ?to look?] Is this from one of those dictionaries whose only definition of "merkin" is "a cloth rag used to clean the insides of a gun or cannon"? -Doug ceres at sirius.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jun 3 19:54:52 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:54:52 -0400 Subject: OFF: GONG in LA, 6/2/99 Message-ID: The old man (Chris) said... :) >>---And what is a speculum? Too lazy to get the dictionary right now, Chuck > >speculum // n. (pl. specula / /) >1 Surgery an instrument for dilating the cavities of the human body for >inspection. This one's the one....and a particular 'cavity of the human body' is what I meant, that being gender-specific to the fairer sex. If you know what I mean. Keith H. (FAA) From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jun 3 21:58:00 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 01:58:00 GMT Subject: OFF: GONG in LA, 6/2/99 In-Reply-To: <199906040106.VAA03641@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Keith Henderson wrote: >The old man (Chris) said... :) > >>>---And what is a speculum? Too lazy to get the dictionary right now, Chuck >> >>speculum // n. (pl. specula / /) >>1 Surgery an instrument for dilating the cavities of the human body for >>inspection. > >This one's the one....and a particular 'cavity of the human body' is what I >meant, that being gender-specific to the fairer sex. If you know what I mean. > it's also become a bit of a feminist icon. It's most infamous usage was during the enforcement of the Contagious Diseases act during the mid to late C19th. In areas such as East London (perceived to be full of prostitutes who were blamed for the epidemic levels of VD amongst the british army at the time) single women who were alone on the streets at night could expect to be dragged off for an 'examination'. Resultantly the speculum came to be seen as something of an instrument of torture. I've only ever seen Daevid (and Steffi) use knives. Thankfully. andrew "Funny things can happen when you get a job, Your world comes falling in on you" - Inner City Unit From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jun 3 21:58:03 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 01:58:03 GMT Subject: OFF: GONG in LA, 6/2/99 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990603175950.008974b0@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: >>3 a lustrous coloured area on the wing of some birds, esp. ducks. >>[Latin, = mirror, from specere ?to look?] > >Is this from one of those dictionaries whose only definition of "merkin" is >"a cloth rag used to clean the insides of a gun or cannon"? LOL! I am constantly amused by the word 'merkin'. I'm currently trying to convince a friend that his surname, Merrin, indicates that he comes from a pubic wig making family rather than the Romany heritage he tries and claims. andrew "Funny things can happen when you get a job, Your world comes falling in on you" - Inner City Unit From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Fri Jun 4 10:11:56 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:11:56 +0100 Subject: OFF: PROGRESSIVE ROCK AND HEAVY METAL SHOWCASE Message-ID: Thought you might like to know.... > A Lazy Cat Productions is proud to present.. > > BIG BANG '99 - PROGRESSIVE ROCK AND HEAVY METAL SHOWCASE BENEFITING THE > ERIC > CARR FUND AT ST. JUDE'S CHILDRENS HOSPITAL > > JULY 18, 1999 at Tuxedo Junction, 2 Ives Street, Danbury, CT (203)748-2561 > > Sponsored by Eastcoast Music Mall of Danbury, CT. > > Featuring nine of the hottest bands in America: > > ICE AGE > EVENT > ENERTIA > SOUNDSCAPE > CRUCIBLE > DIVISION > X FACTOR X > AZTEC JADE > JOE STUMP > > Tickets are only $10 in advance, $12 the day of the show. Doors open at > 2pm > and the show starts at 3. This is an all-ages event, and you must be 21 > and > over with valid ID to drink. > > *** Special announcement: Up for auction is a Fender Stratocaster > (donated > by Eastcoast Music Mall) autographed by members of Dream Theater. ALL > proceeds from the sale of this item will go DIRECTLY to the Eric Carr > Memorial Fund at St. Jude's Children's Hospital. *** > > For more information on this major music event, email Christina Ricciardi > at > AnalogGal at aol.com. -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jun 4 14:51:54 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:51:54 GMT Subject: HW: 'Motorheed' (the song) Message-ID: hi all someone on the bomp list has tracked down HW's version of Motorhead on Ambient Anarchists (which i have to say sounds a lot weaker than the vinyl version - digital mastering? Pah!) but since i mentioned 'the other version' got curious about this'n. Despite its superlative-requiring excellence the codex couldn't furnish me with any details so what's the story behind the version on Independent Days? any help gratefully received :) andrew "Funny things can happen when you get a job, Your world comes falling in on you" - Inner City Unit From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jun 4 15:16:20 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:16:20 EDT Subject: HW: 'Motorheed' (the song) Message-ID: In a message dated 6/4/99 2:52:48 PM, andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: << someone on the bomp list has tracked down HW's version of Motorhead on Ambient Anarchists (which i have to say sounds a lot weaker than the vinyl version - digital mastering? Pah!) but since i mentioned 'the other version' got curious about this'n. Despite its superlative-requiring excellence the codex couldn't furnish me with any details so what's the story behind the version on Independent Days? any help gratefully received :) andrew >> i reckon the version on "independent days" was a demo recorded by brock, lemmy and allan whatzisname; brock's vocals are live and he went back and did a little overdubbing and there you have it; probably an afternoon's "work", or less but === they use the rhythm section's part over again on the version released as the b-side of "kings of speed" we've gotta stop meeting like this "<>" From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Jun 4 16:09:54 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:09:54 -0700 Subject: OFF: GONG in LA, 6/2/99 Message-ID: On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:59:50 -0700, I wrote: >On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 19:44:42 EDT, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: >>In a message dated 99-06-03 15:18:25 EDT, you write: >> >><< Fortunately, in the US, one inevitably gets to see Hawkwind up close and >> personal in fairly small clubs. Indeed, Dave has always appeared to favor >> cheap flatware for this purpose. I was raiding the silverware drawer and >> cranking up the delay the day after I first saw Hawkwind (fall '89) and saw >> how Glissando Guitar works! -Doug >>> >> >>---Interesting. Allen's style must be pretty unique, though, 'cause I've >>never heard anything like it in HW or anything else. > >Check out the break (after all the verses are through) in "Horn of Destiny" >(last song on 'Chronicle of the Black Sword'). Dave's playing glissando >guitar there, and also sweeping the knife up the fretboard with the delay >turned on for those swooping noises. I think it sounds very much like >Daevid Allen there. I can't recall any specific instances of glissando >guitar on 'Palace Springs' or 'California Brainstorm', but I do remember >Dave using that technique quite a bit on those two US tours; I'll have to >give those a listen when I get the chance. OK, I did my homework! On the 'Chronicle of the Black Sword' (studio) version of "Horn of Destiny", the Glissando Guitar can be heard in the 4.45-5.35 portion of the track (just watch the counter on your CD player). And on 'California Brainstorm', cue up track 5 (the one with "TV Suicide" in it) and check out the 10.25-11.20 portion. Not very much Daevid Allen-style Glissando, but some is there, nonetheless. There's more of the sweeping-the-knife-up-and-down-the-fretboard technique in Brock's glissando playing - that can be heard in more places on many Hawkwind live (and studio) recordings. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Jun 4 16:30:51 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:30:51 -0700 Subject: HW: 'Motorheed' (the song) Message-ID: On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 18:51:54 GMT, andrew wrote: >someone on the bomp list has tracked down HW's version of Motorhead on Ambient >Anarchists (which i have to say sounds a lot weaker than the vinyl version - >digital mastering? Pah!) but since i mentioned 'the other version' got curious >about this'n. > >Despite its superlative-requiring excellence the codex couldn't furnish me with >any details so what's the story behind the version on Independent Days? I'll start by saying that this is pure speculation on my part ... It's pretty obvious that the rhythm parts (bass, drums, rhythm guitar) are the same on both versions; if they're not the exact same tracks, then they're from a near-identical alternate take. The next thing that strikes me is that the synths sound (to me) more late-70s/early-80s than early-70s (specifically, they sound more like a Korg MS-20, which is included on the 'Church Of Hawkwind' equipment list and is a very obvious and identifiable sound to me on most of the early-80s live HW recordings I've heard, than a EMS Synthi VCS3). This leads me to believe that the synth overdubs were done shortly before the track was released (on the single with "Valium Ten" circa 1981), rather than when the rhythm tracks were recorded (1975). If that's the case, the next question would be whether Dave's lead vocals and lead guitar were also recorded in the early-80s; the guitar (and synth!) solos DO sound reminiscent of the way the Fast Eddie version of Motorhead played them (check out 'No Sleep Til Hammersmith') to me. So my overall guess (only a guess!) is that Dave had a rough mix of the rhythm tracks (definitely a common recording practice to listen extensively to rough mixes of basic tracks before doing overdubs), and overdubbed lead vocals, lead guitar, and synths in the early 80s for the Flicknife release. If anyone has more concrete evidence to confirm or contradict my suspicions ... let's hear 'em! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jun 4 19:41:41 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:41:41 EDT Subject: HW: 'Motorheed' (the song) Message-ID: In a message dated 6/4/99 4:36:34 PM, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: << So my overall guess (only a guess!) is that Dave had a rough mix of the rhythm tracks (definitely a common recording practice to listen extensively to rough mixes of basic tracks before doing overdubs), and overdubbed lead vocals, lead guitar, and synths in the early 80s for the Flicknife release. If anyone has more concrete evidence to confirm or contradict my suspicions ... let's hear 'em! >> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ huh. i hadnt considered anything like that (see previous)...to me brock's vocals were sorta tossoff, as he played...do you think he'd go back, years later, to put on THOSE vocals? (grin) was brock overseeing the flicknife releases? i mean, this is from that batch o' material which has been released many times over, innit? i've got it on INDEPENDENT DAYS but something else too, i bleeve i can't date synth noises meself, but my question is would mr. brock retouch a demo, years later? because he didnt really make it sound like it wasnt a demo , do ya think? i dunno, i'm askin' you ^_~ "<>" From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jun 4 22:53:43 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 02:53:43 GMT Subject: OFF: GONG in LA, 6/2/99 In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990604130954.0088faf0@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: >. There's more of the >sweeping-the-knife-up-and-down-the-fretboard technique in Brock's glissando >playing - that can be heard in more places on many Hawkwind live (and >studio) recordings. come to think of it (and my mind may be playing tricks on me right now cos Gong appeared on the same pprog) but didn't Dave use the guitar-knife-glissando machine on the live TV prog appearnce they made a few years back (w/Harvey, Bridget, Alan, Simon House, et al)? As far as the motorhead query goes, i'm with Larry on the vocal side of things but Doug's synth noise archaeology has also got me pretty convinced. So, somewhere between the two is the rythym section plus the later twiddly bits plus dave throwin down the vocals in one take to show that he could be just as speedy as lemmy (maybe a pang of guilt over the coke/speed sacking incident). There's also the curious byline on Independent Days of 'the way it should have been'.... later ndrew "Funny things can happen when you get a job, Your world comes falling in on you" - Inner City Unit From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Sat Jun 5 03:49:26 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 16:49:26 +0900 Subject: OFF: Hurry on Shakedown Message-ID: So what is wrong with Kula Shaker any way? Yokohama, June 4. Surreal experience of the week: Song Number 3 in the set, Hurry on Sundown (and not a bad version of it either.) Manami and I were stood next to a bunch of teenagers who knew every word to every song. Hurry on Sundown shrieked out by Pinky and Perky is definitely an experience that will stay with me for a while. :-) -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Jun 5 05:15:11 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 05:15:11 EDT Subject: HW: 'Motorheed' (the song) Message-ID: In a message dated 99-06-04 16:36:34 EDT, you write: << If anyone has more concrete evidence to confirm or contradict my suspicions ... let's hear 'em! -Doug >> ......Hmm, all very interesting, but I'm still wondering why there are 2 different versions of the Brock-vocal version which differ _only_ in that one version has Brock yelling "Ohhh" towards the end, while the other leaves it out. For evidence (and if you're on summer break and have a lot of time to burn) check Collection version vs. Mighty Classics version... Sorry of this sounds trivial, but I was raised on the "OH!" version and quite like it, and was extremely offended to find it ommited on the other version... Chuck From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sat Jun 5 05:59:55 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 10:59:55 +0100 Subject: OFF: Hurry on Shakedown Message-ID: Nothing too bad, musically. The first album was OK, althought the new one's mince. I believe the negative Kula reaction is to due to Crispian Mills pronouncements on Nazism, which he now claims (of course) were misconstrued, and his dodgy musical past in a skinhead band (which he now denies). Personally - Spoilt Stupid Rich Kid who's so used to shooting his mouth off among his fellow SSRKs, who probably concur with his views, that he honestly didn't realise that his views were extremely stupid, ill conceived and offensive. Z NP The Gales Bros - Hand Me Down > From: > Dave Greenhalgh > > > > So what is wrong with Kula Shaker any way? > > Yokohama, June 4. > > Surreal experience of the week: Song Number 3 in the set, > Hurry on Sundown (and not a bad version of it either.) > Manami and I were stood next to a bunch of teenagers who > knew every word to every song. Hurry on Sundown shrieked > out by Pinky and Perky is definitely an experience that will > stay with me for a while. :-) > > -- > Dave Greenhalgh > > > ICQ#33513470 -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Jun 5 10:45:18 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 10:45:18 EDT Subject: HW: 'Motorhead' (the song) Message-ID: In a message dated 6/5/99 5:16:59 AM, Chuckrecs at AOL.COM writes: << Sorry of this sounds trivial, but I was raised on the "OH!" version and quite like it, and was extremely offended to find it omitted on the other version... Chuck >> no no, that's what "minutae" is all about, distinctions such as this...hadnt noticed it myself...the difference would be a matter of pressing a button or yanking a fader on the mixing board, ja? but why? if something like "d'yer maker" has dozens of "oh"s ==plenty to spare== why couldnt this version of "motorhead" keep the one "oh" it had? inquiring minds wanna know! calling doctor a-hole "<>" what i really wanted to do was correct the spelling of "motorhead" in the subject line ^_~ From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jun 5 11:36:57 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 15:36:57 GMT Subject: HW: 'Motorheed' (the song) In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990604133051.0089c4f0@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the help guys! I think i probably go along with both of you: Doug's hypothesis seems to work and Larry's one-take vocals has a ring of truth about it. As to why DB would want to go back to the track, well, i don't know if these are the Baron's words or not but the byline to the track on Independent Days is "The way it should have been". Given 'the disappearances' on HW writing credits i just wonder if Dave was angling for 'Motorhead' (Brock) :-) >So my overall guess (only a guess!) is that Dave had a rough mix of the >rhythm tracks (definitely a common recording practice to listen extensively >to rough mixes of basic tracks before doing overdubs), and overdubbed lead >vocals, lead guitar, and synths in the early 80s for the Flicknife release. "Funny things can happen when you get a job, Your world comes falling in on you" - Inner City Unit From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Jun 5 11:48:43 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 11:48:43 EDT Subject: HW: 'Motorheed' (the song) Message-ID: In a message dated 6/5/99 11:41:43 AM, andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: << Given 'the disappearances' on HW writing credits i just wonder if Dave was angling for 'Motorhead' (Brock) :-) >> meanwhile, calvert's "aerospaceage inferno" and particularly this version of "motorhead" share the riff which starts the latter, w/the former using it throughout the song. hmmm.... "<>" From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sat Jun 5 11:47:15 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 16:47:15 +0100 Subject: OFF: DIO TRIBUTE ALBUM - Might Be Kule Message-ID: Century Media release, HOLY DIO - A TRIBUTE TO THE VOICE OF METAL, on August 2nd. The double CD (AVAILABLE FOR THE PRICE OF A NORMAL FULL PRICE CD) features :- YNGWIE MALMSTEEN - ?Gates OF Babylon?, STRATOVARIUS - ?Kill The King?, GAMMA RAY - ?Long Live Rock n Roll?, AXEL RUDI PELL - ?Still I?m Sad?, HAMMERFALL - ?Man On The Silver Mountain?, ANGEL DUST - ?Temple Of The King?, CATCH THE RAINBOW - ?Rainbow Eyes?, PRIMAL FEAR - ?Kill The King?, BLIND GUARDIAN - ?Don?t Talk To Strangers?, DESTINY?S END - ?Last In Line?, DORO - ?Egypt (The chains are ON)?, JAG PANZER - ?Children Of the Sea?, GRAVEDIGGER - ?We Rock?, FATES WARNING - ?Sign Of The southern Cross?, SOLITUDE AETURNUS - ?Shame On The night?, HOLY MOTHER - ?Holy Diver?, ENOLA GAY -?Heaven and Hell?, SWANO / TAGTGREEN - ?Country Girl? and STEEL PROPHET - ?Neon Knights?. Z NP Malmstorm - Journey's End -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Jun 5 15:05:32 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 15:05:32 -0400 Subject: HW: 'Motorhead' (the song) In-Reply-To: <2af35712.248a91fe@aol.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: => what i really wanted to do was => correct the spelling of "motorhead" => in the subject line ^_~ Oh, and all this time I thought you were just using the geordie spelling... :-) Cheers, Paul "did yee spill me pint?" Mather. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sat Jun 5 15:57:13 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 20:57:13 +0100 Subject: HW: 'Motorheed' (the song) Message-ID: I don't have both versions hear to check, but I recall once upon a time gaining the impression that the Valium 10 version was faster and in a higher key, strongly suggesting that an old rhythm track had been sped up ... ?? Someone will want to check on that in case I have halucinated the whole thing! -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Jun 5 16:14:14 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 16:14:14 EDT Subject: HW: 'Motorheed' (the song) Message-ID: In a message dated 6/5/99 3:57:26 PM, cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK writes: << I don't have both versions hear to check, but I recall once upon a time gaining the impression that the Valium 10 version was faster and in a higher key, strongly suggesting that an old rhythm track had been sped up ... ?? Someone will want to check on that in case I have hallucinated the whole thing! >> the song begins in E ; that first change is C,A,C,A,C, B into the "chorus" of E, A, E, B anything else would have been sped up i tell ya pitch control drives me crazy "<>" From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jun 5 18:32:35 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 22:32:35 GMT Subject: HW: 'Motorhead' (the song) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >=> what i really wanted to do was >=> correct the spelling of "motorhead" >=> in the subject line ^_~ > >Oh, and all this time I thought you were just using the geordie >spelling... :-) > yukyukyuk! when i typed in the sunject line i had in mind a friend from Leeds and his pronunciation. but even then what i should have typed was 'Motterheed' >Paul "did yee spill me pint?" Mather. yee callin wor lass a puff? andrew "Funny things can happen when you get a job, Your world comes falling in on you" - Inner City Unit From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Sat Jun 5 18:55:33 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:55:33 +0100 Subject: OFF: Hurry on Shakedown Message-ID: >So what is wrong with Kula Shaker any way? Nothing in my book > >Yokohama, June 4. > >Surreal experience of the week: Song Number 3 in the set, >Hurry on Sundown (and not a bad version of it either.) >Manami and I were stood next to a bunch of teenagers who >knew every word to every song. Hurry on Sundown shrieked >out by Pinky and Perky is definitely an experience that will >stay with me for a while. :-) > >-- >Dave Greenhalgh Hay Dave, two points; 1, even teenageers know cool when they hear it. 2, are you seriously saying you've just seen Kula Shaker in Japan, Far out! Not quite so exotic but I'm seeing Nik Turners All Stars on tuesday here in Plymouth and Bet you any money there will be one or two teenageers shaking their funky thing to a living legend with out knowing it. DOC............. From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Sat Jun 5 19:09:45 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 00:09:45 +0100 Subject: HW: 'Motorheed' (the song) Message-ID: Hey Carl, >impression that the Valium 10 version was >faster and in a higher key, strongly suggesting that an old rhythm >track had been sped up ... ?? Someone will want to check on that >in case I have halucinated the whole thing! > >Carl Edlund Anderson Wow, you're right I'm fortunate to have both the original 'Valium 10' 12" and 'The Collector Series' version and in deed the Valium 10 version is faster but bassier not necessarily in a higher key suggesting two seperate recordings of the track perhaps. DOC............. From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sun Jun 6 09:33:29 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 09:33:29 EDT Subject: Hawkwind Mission Control Message-ID: Dear friends, It appears that Mission Control is Down? I hope this is only temporary....anyone have a clue? 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Visit http://www.msn.com > From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun Jun 6 12:22:02 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 17:22:02 +0100 Subject: Fw: Fwd: Fwd: Fw: Dave Mathews... this is soo sad.. please send on Message-ID: Forwarding chain letters (especially ones with *billions* of headers and *ridiculous* levels of quotation) to lists is generally frowned upon. -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Jun 6 12:34:43 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:34:43 -0400 Subject: Fw: Fwd: Fwd: Fw: Dave Mathews... this is soo sad.. please send on In-Reply-To: <1289543.3137678522@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: Carl writes: => Forwarding chain letters (especially ones with *billions* of => headers and *ridiculous* levels of quotation) to lists is => generally frowned upon. Besides, surely it should have been forwarded to the DMB list instead, who might at least in theory be interested in learning Dave Matthews alleged screen name. ;-) (BTW, reading the chain letter made me realise how obviously bogus it is, and wonder if anyone bothers to read past the "this is for a poor sick dying girl: forward to everyone you know." I mean, there's no way [even if they could track it] that the American Cancer Society is going to donate 3 cents per forward to any *individual's* cancer recovery treatment. That, and the fact that later it says 6 cents.;) Cheers, Craig Shergold. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Jun 6 12:51:45 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:51:45 EDT Subject: Fw: Fwd: Fwd: Fw: Dave Mathews... this is soo sad.. please send on Message-ID: In a message dated 6/6/99 12:22:16 PM, cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK writes: <> yeah yeah what he said (grin) and i oughta know "<>" From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sun Jun 6 14:11:16 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:11:16 +0100 Subject: OFF: Iron Butterfly member dead Message-ID: > MALIBU, Calif. (Reuters) - Remains found at the bottom of a steep > canyon in the posh seaside community of Malibu appeared to be those of > a rock guitarist who disappeared more than four years ago, authorities > said Monday. > > The human skull and bones, discovered late Saturday near a wrecked van > were being studied by a medical examiner to determine if they belonged > to Philip Kramer, who played bass guitar in the second version of the > band Iron Butterfly in the mid-1970s. > -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Jun 6 14:43:08 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 14:43:08 EDT Subject: OFF: austin powers in "THE SPY TO WHOM I PUT IT" Message-ID: i was at the mall this afternoon and saw a couple promo displays for the 2nd austin powers movie, "the spy who shagged me", and it got me to thinkin'... in america, not too many yankees know what "shag" means. ^_~ but in england, ahem, will this movie be released with a different title? calling nick saloman's unpaid analyst "<>" From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun Jun 6 14:51:48 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:51:48 +0100 Subject: OFF: austin powers in "THE SPY TO WHOM I PUT IT" Message-ID: > i was at the mall this afternoon and saw a couple promo displays for the 2nd > austin powers movie, "the spy who shagged me", and it got me to thinkin'... > in america, not too many yankees know what "shag" means. ^_~ > but in england, ahem, will this movie be released with a different title? I wonder that myself! > calling nick saloman's unpaid analyst Diamonds are forever ... ;) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Jun 6 15:18:36 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 20:18:36 +0100 Subject: OFF: austin powers in "THE SPY TO WHOM I PUT IT" In-Reply-To: <1829986.3137687508@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > i was at the mall this afternoon and saw a couple promo displays for the > 2nd > > austin powers movie, "the spy who shagged me", and it got me to > thinkin'... > > in america, not too many yankees know what "shag" means. ^_~ > > but in england, ahem, will this movie be released with a > different title? > > I wonder that myself! > No, that's the title, and we're broad-minded enough to deal with it (and with Mike Myers taking the piss out of us at the same time :). Plus, it's got my sweetheart Heather Graham in it. (In, apparently, even kinkier gear than she wore in Lost in Space. :)) - Andy Ob12": Sonic's Rendezvous - "City Slang" ep mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Jun 6 15:42:49 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 15:42:49 -0400 Subject: OFF: austin powers in "THE SPY TO WHOM I PUT IT" In-Reply-To: <4ec32a5d.248c1b3c@aol.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 6 Jun 1999 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: => i was at the mall this afternoon and saw a couple promo displays for the 2nd => austin powers movie, "the spy who shagged me", and it got me to thinkin'... => => in america, not too many yankees know what "shag" means. ^_~ I thought that myself, but then a friend reminded me that the multitudes of people who saw the first Austin Powers film will now know the meaning of "shag," and so the title's meaning will not be so hidden. I presume it was inspired by the Roger Moore Bond movie, _The Spy Who Loved Me_, but with an Austin Powers ring to it. :-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Jun 6 16:29:14 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 16:29:14 EDT Subject: OFF: austin powers in "THE SPY TO WHOM I PUT IT" Message-ID: In a message dated 6/6/99 3:43:04 PM, paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU writes: << I presume it was inspired by the Roger Moore Bond movie, _The Spy Who Loved Me_, but with an Austin Powers ring to it. :-) >> but of course, mon frere glad we had a bit of fun with it "<>" From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Sun Jun 6 15:56:31 1999 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 12:56:31 -0700 Subject: OFF: austin powers in "THE SPY TO WHOM I PUT IT" In-Reply-To: <000201beb051$6013c320$812b63c3@default> Message-ID: > > > i was at the mall this afternoon and saw a couple promo > displays for the > > 2nd > > > austin powers movie, "the spy who shagged me", and it got me to > > thinkin'... > > > in america, not too many yankees know what "shag" means. ^_~ > > > but in england, ahem, will this movie be released with a > > different title? > > > > I wonder that myself! > > > > No, that's the title, and we're broad-minded enough to deal with it (and > with Mike Myers taking the piss out of us at the same time :). > > Plus, it's got my sweetheart Heather Graham in it. (In, apparently, even > kinkier gear than she wore in Lost in Space. :)) > > - Andy But no roller-skates? Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Jun 6 18:00:04 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:00:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: austin powers in "THE SPY TO WHOM I PUT IT" In-Reply-To: <000001beb056$abea7d20$8855dacf@primenet.com> Message-ID: > But no roller-skates? Be still my beating heart! :)) - Andy ObLP: _Roky Erickson and the Aliens_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Jun 6 18:24:05 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 18:24:05 EDT Subject: OFF: SPACE DOES NOT CARE Set-List Message-ID: "Space Does not Care", 6/5/99, 88.3 KUCR, 9-11 pm PST, every other Sat. (Thanks again to Anish for spicing it up a bit w/his own selections.) 1.Pressurehed--Explaining the Unexplained 2.Dead Can Dance--Xavier 3.Gong--Elephant la Tete/Mother's Gone/Elephant la Cuisse 4.Anubian Lights--The Ba and the Ka 5.Vas--A Garland of Breath 6.Melting Euphoria--The Inner Vastness of Space 7.F. Zappa--Transylvania Boogie 8.Hawkwind--Alchemy (from In Your Area) 9.Architectural Metaphor--Oddyseum Galacti 10.Bela Fleck and the Flecktones--Flight of the Cosmic Hippo (more N. Exposure tunage) 11.Henry Cow--Nirvana for Mice (dedicated to Gustav, Shelly, Jean-Jock (sp?) and the rest of my little Vincours, bad and good) 12.Gong--IAO Chant and Master Builder 13.The Residents--Hello Skinny 14.Amon Duul II--The Ballad of the Shimmering Sand 15.F/i--Electric Waltz 16.Hawkwind--Hashcake '77 17.Nik Turner--Opa-Loka 2000 18.Laibach--Abuse & Confession 19.Farflung--Don't Forget to Breathe 20.Pressurehed--I Predict Thanks, Chuck From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jun 6 20:34:50 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:34:50 GMT Subject: OFF: austin powers in "THE SPY TO WHOM I PUT IT" In-Reply-To: <000301beb067$eefc8840$812b63c3@default> Message-ID: >ObLP: _Roky Erickson and the Aliens_ speaking of The Reverend of Karmic Youth, what's the new CD 'A Day With...' or whatever it's called like? I'm sure someone mentioned recently as being Roky solo w/an acoustic going through a few numbers in a hotel room. Is this right? andrew, working in the Kremlin with a two headed dog. "Funny things can happen when you get a job, Your world comes falling in on you" - Inner City Unit From mordru at FLITE.NET Sun Jun 6 23:11:34 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:11:34 -0400 Subject: OFF: austin powers in "THE SPY TO WHOM I PUT IT" In-Reply-To: <4ec32a5d.248c1b3c@aol.com> Message-ID: At 02:43 PM 6/6/99 EDT, you wrote: >i was at the mall this afternoon and saw a couple promo displays for the 2nd >austin powers movie, "the spy who shagged me", and it got me to thinkin'... > >in america, not too many yankees know what "shag" means. ^_~ In america, it has three accepted meanings: 1. a nap on a coarse material (or coarse, shredded tobacco) 2. a species of coromant 3. to chase after and retrieve (specifically, baseballs durring batting practice). Seriously, though, I do think most people are aware of the meaning from the movie title, but (thankfully) it hasn't appeared on any censor's banned list to date... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Jun 6 23:32:14 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:32:14 EDT Subject: OFF: austin powers in "THE SPY TO WHOM I PUT IT" Message-ID: In a message dated 6/6/99 11:13:55 PM, mordru at FLITE.NET writes: << but (thankfully) it hasn't appeared on any censor's banned list to date...>> do such lists still xist? geez, what's left to get banned? not much left what aint allowed the aging person mumbled "<>" From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jun 7 03:11:24 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:11:24 +0100 Subject: OFF: austin powers in "THE SPY TO WHOM I PUT IT" In-Reply-To: <375d12bc.6231502@smtp.freeserve.net> Message-ID: > >ObLP: _Roky Erickson and the Aliens_ > > speaking of The Reverend of Karmic Youth, what's the new CD 'A > Day With...' or > whatever it's called like? I'm sure someone mentioned recently as > being Roky > solo w/an acoustic going through a few numbers in a hotel room. > Is this right? > > andrew, working in the Kremlin with a two headed dog. The full title is _Demon Angel: A Day and Night with Roky Erickson_. I think it's very good! Good quality recording, Roky on very good form. No very big shocks in the track list, except for "Blowin' in the Wind", but super versions of "Bloody Hammer" and "Stand for the Fire Demon" in particular. I've beenplaying in quite a lot since I got itlast week. There has for some time been a boot, also called _Demon Angel_, which I haven't got and may not be the same thing. - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Mon Jun 7 05:47:22 1999 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:47:22 +0100 Subject: HW: tour rumour Message-ID: Dear boclers in my local venue, Alleycats (live) i Reading, they claim that Hawkwind will be playing there sometime. There are no dates or anything that final, so this might just be for the long planned tour insead of a summer gig. Does anyone else have more substantial rumours? Mike w From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jun 7 05:13:08 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:13:08 +0100 Subject: OFF: Hurry on Shakedown In-Reply-To: <018d01beafab$aeddea40$dcf8a8c2@ekew.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: In article <018d01beafab$aeddea40$dcf8a8c2 at ekew.freeserve.co.uk>, nigel.kew writes > >2, are you seriously saying you've just seen Kula Shaker in Japan, Far out! The other HW connection is, of course, the lyric "Ginger Baker Bagel Tattva...." at least, I think that's what he said...... -- Jon From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon Jun 7 07:10:02 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:10:02 -0400 Subject: BOCish: Too Hip for the Room Message-ID: Has anyone ordered the Too Hip for the Room Tape/CD? From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jun 7 07:53:58 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:53:58 +0100 Subject: BOC: Remastered BOC/T&M Message-ID: This little package arrived this morning... nicely put together little package it is too, with lyrics (!), the inner sleeve art from T&M (which some of you are too young to have seen in its natural habitat :), and new notes from Bloom. Sound quality's the important thing, though - and it seems like an improvement on the earlier CDs (but they're still in storage so I can't directly compare right now); but whether it's an improvement on the original vinyl I'll have to get back to you on... but I'd suggest anyone who's strictly CD-only ought to put this on their to-buy list, really. - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From mordru at FLITE.NET Mon Jun 7 09:19:40 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:19:40 -0400 Subject: BOCish: Too Hip for the Room Message-ID: >Has anyone ordered the Too Hip for the Room Tape/CD? Yeah. It's pub/folk type stuff. Even the BOC material is pretty light, and the Don't Fear/Burning For You thing is completely rearranged. Buck does sing on it, but I never cared that much for it. I didn't care for the CD that much, the songs I tolerated most were ones other than the DFTR/BFY mix. There are some amusing lyrics here and there, and the guy (Tony something) seems like a nice guy. ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From abrevard at SHL.COM Mon Jun 7 10:31:26 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:31:26 -0700 Subject: OFF: PROGRESSIVE ROCK AND HEAVY METAL SHOWCASE Message-ID: ERIC > CARR FUND AT ST. JUDE'S CHILDRENS HOSPITAL > > JULY 18, 1999 at Tuxedo Junction, 2 Ives Street, Danbury, CT (203)748-2561 > > Sponsored by Eastcoast Music Mall of Danbury, CT. > > Featuring nine of the hottest bands in America: > > > DIVISION > Good band Division. Have seen them several times at Jaxx, once opening for BOC. >PRICE CD) features :- YNGWIE MALMSTEEN - "Gates OF Babylon", STRATOVARIUS - "Kill The King", GAMMA RAY - "Long Live Rock n Roll", AXEL RUDI PELL - "Still I'm Sad", HAMMERFALL - "Man On The Silver Mountain", ANGEL DUST - "Temple Of The King", CATCH THE RAINBOW - "Rainbow Eyes", PRIMAL FEAR - "Kill The King", BLIND GUARDIAN - "Don't Talk To Strangers", DESTINY'S END - "Last In Line", DORO - "Egypt (The chains are ON)", JAG PANZER - "Children Of the Sea", GRAVEDIGGER - "We Rock", FATES WARNING - "Sign Of The southern Cross", SOLITUDE AETURNUS - "Shame On The night", HOLY MOTHER - "Holy Diver", ENOLA GAY -"Heaven and Hell", SWANO / TAGTGREEN - "Country Girl" and STEEL PROPHET - "Neon Knights". Two bands doing Kill the King? BTW Division does a cover of Heaven and Hell on their latest album Acension to Eternity. Ghost in the Ruins NP: BOC's - CE From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Mon Jun 7 10:38:01 1999 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:38:01 +0100 Subject: Bye for now Message-ID: Hi folx, I've just learnt that I'm being made redundant. So I'll be signing off the list for a while. I have an alternate e-mail address at daveb at tardis.ed.ac.uk, but I don't yet know how often I'll be checking that. (I'll be able to check mail at Harlequin for the next day or two as well). I hope to rejoin the list once I've got a new job sorted out -- you're the best bunch on the net to hang with. Dave. Languages Group Manager. Harlequin Ltd., Lismore House, 127 George St, Edinburgh, EH2 4JN, UK. Tel: +44 131 240 6106. From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Jun 7 10:56:47 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:56:47 +0100 Subject: Bye for now Message-ID: On m?n 7 jun 1999 15.38 +0100 "Dave Berry" wrote: > I've just learnt that I'm being made redundant. So I'll be signing off the > list for a while. I have an alternate e-mail address at > daveb at tardis.ed.ac.uk, but I don't yet know how often I'll be checking > that. (I'll be able to check mail at Harlequin for the next day or two as > well). I hope to rejoin the list once I've got a new job sorted out -- > you're the best bunch on the net to hang with. That very bumming! Good luck getting back in the saddle! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Mon Jun 7 11:01:53 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Gekke Henkie) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:01:53 +0200 Subject: Bye for now In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990607153801.019f4430@mailhost.ed.harlequin.co.uk> Message-ID: Well Dave, I wish U all the best! --BArt On 7 Jun 99, at 15:38, Dave Berry wrote: > Hi folx, > > I've just learnt that I'm being made redundant. So I'll be signing off > the list for a while. I have an alternate e-mail address at > daveb at tardis.ed.ac.uk, but I don't yet know how often I'll be checking > that. (I'll be able to check mail at Harlequin for the next day or two as > well). I hope to rejoin the list once I've got a new job sorted out -- > you're the best bunch on the net to hang with. > > Dave. > > Languages Group Manager. > Harlequin Ltd., Lismore House, 127 George St, Edinburgh, EH2 4JN, UK. Tel: > +44 131 240 6106. From hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU Mon Jun 7 11:03:55 1999 From: hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU (hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:03:55 -0500 Subject: BOC: Remastered BOC/T&M In-Reply-To: <000901beb0dc$6d1d8f20$812b63c3@default> Message-ID: Where did you obtain them? Is it an online source? --thomas On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Andy Gilham wrote: > This little package arrived this morning... nicely put together little > package it is too, with lyrics (!), the inner sleeve art from T&M (which > some of you are too young to have seen in its natural habitat :), and new > notes from Bloom. > > Sound quality's the important thing, though - and it seems like an > improvement on the earlier CDs (but they're still in storage so I can't > directly compare right now); but whether it's an improvement on the original > vinyl I'll have to get back to you on... but I'd suggest anyone who's > strictly CD-only ought to put this on their to-buy list, really. > > - Andy > > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jun 7 11:19:16 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:19:16 +0100 Subject: BOC: Remastered BOC/T&M In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Where did you obtain them? Is it an online source? > Got it from cduniverse.com - they have it at $20.47 + shipping, which was the best price I could find. I buy nearly all my CDs online these days. Which only partly explains the size of my credit card bill... Just had a decent listen to it: they can't work miracles, and so _BOC_ is still a bit muddy, but _T&M_ really shines. In particular, the bit I really enjoyed was the instrumental break in "Teen Archer", with the bass trading off against the organ. (And you know, they had quite a good drummer in those days too! :) - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Jun 7 11:56:26 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:56:26 +0100 Subject: BOC: Remastered BOC/T&M Message-ID: On m?n 7 jun 1999 16.19 +0100 "Andy Gilham" wrote: > I buy nearly all my CDs online these days. Which only partly explains the > size of my credit card bill... I'm not sure I can remember the last time I *didn't* buy a CD on-line! Who wants to pay shop prices? (Especially UK shop prices, assuming the shop even has what I want which isn't very likely in these parts, actually!). Oh wait, I did buy a Monster Magnet single in a shop several months ago ... Mind you, I haven't gotten a lot of music recently, but that which I have gotten has pretty much all been from on-line sources. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jun 7 12:18:06 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:18:06 +0100 Subject: Bye for now In-Reply-To: Dave Berry's message of Mon, 7 Jun 1999 15:38:01 +0100 Message-ID: Dave Berry writes: > Hi folx, > > I've just learnt that I'm being made redundant. So I'll be signing off the Sorry to hear this. Good luck finding something new and come back soon! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jun 7 12:40:37 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:40:37 -0400 Subject: OFF: Roky Message-ID: Andy said... >ObLP: _Roky Erickson and the Aliens_ Anybody heard the new one (?), Demon Angel or whatever? How does it compare to the last archive album that was released earlier in the year? Keit H. (FAA) From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jun 7 09:18:59 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:18:59 +0100 Subject: OFF: Hurry on Shakedown Message-ID: Enlightened Personages! >> >>2, are you seriously saying you've just seen Kula Shaker in Japan, Far out! > >The other HW connection is, of course, the lyric > >"Ginger Baker Bagel Tattva...." > >at least, I think that's what he said...... >-- >Jon Have HW opened their own patisserie with DB's secret recipe for a Ginger Baker Bagel or is Jon refering to another connection I'm in the dark about. Still to be illuminated... DOC........... From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jun 7 09:14:32 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 14:14:32 +0100 Subject: HW: tour rumour Message-ID: Hi All! > >in my local venue, Alleycats (live) i Reading, they claim that Hawkwind >will be playing there sometime. I konw nothing however this isn't a million miles away from me (give or take 100miles) and if the timing was right I could make this venue. So please confirmation of date / time would be appreciated all round I'm sure. DOC........ From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jun 7 16:24:22 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:24:22 +0100 Subject: Bye for now Message-ID: Hey Dave, Sorry to hear about your bad luck get to us soon we'll miss you. DOC........... From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jun 7 16:27:05 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:27:05 +0100 Subject: OFF: online CD prices Message-ID: Are online CD stores really that much cheaper and can you recommend a good one ?? DOC.......... From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Jun 7 16:59:47 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:59:47 +0100 Subject: OFF: online CD prices Message-ID: On m?n 7 jun 1999 21.27 +0100 "nigel.kew" wrote: > Are online CD stores really that much cheaper and can you recommend a good > one ?? Well, I haven't ordered many domestic British CDs, since I plan on getting the cheaper US releases when I return to the US. Many of my friends at Cambridge, however, regularly mail-order from the US, since even the likes of CDNow let them shave a few quid off the price (even after postage) and have a better selection than Cambridge shops (admittedly, not hard!). Recently I've concentrated on various European releases which are hard to get in Britain anyway, but are still usually cheaper coming direct from Scandinavia than from a British importer. Who needs a middleman, after all? :) But unless a shop is having a special sale, I've never seen a shop (in the UK, at least) selling for less than on-line businesses. Sometimes, postage on small orders will negate the savings--you don't want to buy 3 separate CDs on 3 separate days, you need to group orders--but, well, on-line places don't have anything like the over-head that a shop does, so it would be pretty amazing if they didn't cost at least a little less. There are more second-hand places coming online as well. As for good places, well, I've ordered some things *dirt* cheap from Zweitausandeins in Germany. A somewhat idiosyncratic selection, but excellent prices. I have friends who regularly patronize on-line places in the Netherlands, but I've not gone hunting for them. Ah, how many here remember the days of Ranjit's prog mail-order service? Great times .... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Mon Jun 7 17:02:24 1999 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 16:02:24 -0500 Subject: OFF: online CD prices Message-ID: Give these 2 a try . . . http://www.mysimon.com Does a search for you of many online stores. And . . . http://www.everycd.com Sign up for a trial membership to buy at wholesale! Good luck! Would be interested to hear any other rants/raves about online ordering sites. Karen "nigel.kew" wrote: > > Are online CD stores really that much cheaper and can you recommend a good > one ?? > > DOC.......... From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jun 7 17:33:18 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 22:33:18 +0100 Subject: OFF: online CD prices In-Reply-To: <375C3360.2B824F25@execpc.com> Message-ID: > Good luck! Would be interested to hear any other rants/raves about > online ordering sites. Some specialist sites I've had particularly good experiences with are: * Southern Studios (http://www.southern.com/), who dispatch next day without fail, and have a great catalogue of post-rock weirdness. * Red Eye (http://www.redeye.com.au/), who have before now taken an order on a Sunday night, and I've got the CD on the Thursday morning, from 12,000 miles away! * Forced Exposure (http://www.forcedexposure.com/) who have a great catalogue of krautrock, postrock, avant-garde, japanoise, electronica, and exotica, and offer some of the friendliest service you'll find on the web. Plus they carry all the Captain Trip catalogue, which includes lots of Amon Duul II and Mick Farren and the Deviants. * Citadel Records (link from http://www.sdv.fr/pages/dgieff/rob.htm), who really only sell their own stuff, but since that includes the New Christs and the Deniz Tek Group, that's fine by me! And excellent personal service from John Needham, who recognised my name just from ordering when I met him at the Tek gig in Normandy. For more mainstream stuff, I shop around promiscuously between CDnow.com, CDUniverse.com, CDconnection.com, amazon.com, etc etc etc. Finally, for francophony, I use both www.fnac.fr and www.alapage.com for books and CDs, and they've been fine and ever so polite. (And with the Euro heading south fast, their prices are just getting better and better! :) - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From ted at ALGER.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jun 7 19:15:56 1999 From: ted at ALGER.DEMON.CO.UK (Ted Alger) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 23:15:56 +0000 Subject: BOCish: Too Hip for the Room In-Reply-To: <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD021CF3D0@emss05m03.sanders.lmco.com> Message-ID: >Has anyone ordered the Too Hip for the Room Tape/CD? which one... the "All Time Greatest Hips" CD or the new one "Don't Fear The Remake" ? in my case both, but the 2nd one hasn't been released yet as Buck is fiddling with the masters! Ted From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jun 7 19:46:05 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:46:05 +0900 Subject: OFF: Hurry on Shakedown Message-ID: Jon Browne wrote: > In article <018d01beafab$aeddea40$dcf8a8c2 at ekew.freeserve.co.uk>, > nigel.kew writes > > > >2, are you seriously saying you've just seen Kula Shaker in Japan, Far out! > You can't be too fussy who you see out here, the choice is a bit limited :-) There's a lot of home grown stuff that starts promisingly and then dissolves into a disappointing mix of fancy guitar riffs and a melody line that doesn't fit the backing, at least to my taste, but who am I to judge. Recommended listening: - Buffalo Daughter (on Grand Royal - the Beastie Boys' label.) Captain Vapour Athletes is interesting and the new CD, New Rock is definitely worth a listen. They describe themselves as "Cut and Paste artists." the music sits somewhere between pure rock and what the Art of Noise would sound like with Keith Prodigy doing the writing. Lyrics are, of course, high pitched -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From jdelillo at IQUEST.NET Mon Jun 7 21:03:22 1999 From: jdelillo at IQUEST.NET (Joe) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:03:22 -0500 Subject: HW: Quark STrangeness and Charm In-Reply-To: <375C59BD.A3BF28AF@virgin.net> Message-ID: I have a question about Quark Strangeness and Charm, I am looking through CDUniverse, and it lists three different versions and EP, which I have, a version for 9.99, which I also have as I recognize it from the cover, and another for 23.97, which I don't have. I was wondering if anyone could tell me why there are two different releases and what the differences are if they are different? Thanks, in advance. Joe From SHLL at NOVO.DK Tue Jun 8 05:09:30 1999 From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:09:30 +0200 Subject: OFF:Terrastock Message-ID: Terrastock III is scheduled to take place the weekend of August 27th, 28th and 29th 1999 at the ULU (the University of London), Malet Street, London WC1. Here are some of the bands that are playing: Abunai! ,Air Traffic Controllers ,The Alchemysts ,Arco, The Autumn Leaves, Bablicon ,Bardo Pond ,The Bevis Frond ,Damon and Naomi ,Elf Power ,Green Pajamas ,The Green Ray ,Hood ,Kurihara and Ishihara ,The Lothars ,Man, The Music Tapes ,Piano Magic ,Pop Off ,Tuesday ,Tom Rapp, ,Spaceheads, The Spacious Mind ,Warser Gate ,Windy and Carl NOt as far out of a lineup as i had hoped and a lot of the exact same bands as the other line ups but still will be very cool.. Can anyone put me up for a few nights? SCott ObCD- Aum- Aum (Belgium) From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Tue Jun 8 10:08:15 1999 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (James A Hogard) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:08:15 -0500 Subject: OFF: online CD prices Message-ID: I've just been tipped off to this place that offers a sh*tload of CD's at $4.95 ea. Big _caveat emptor_; I just placed an order on Friday, so I'm yet awaiting the goods. Also, they state upfront "Offer limited to no more than 5 CDs per order. Supplies are limited and the offer may be revoked at any time." Shipping costs may be prohibitive for non-U.S. folks. http://www.myshopnow.com/thegrape/ Hogard From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Tue Jun 8 11:16:04 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:16:04 -0400 Subject: OFF: online CD prices Message-ID: I took a look at the site. Is the shipping ($3.50) for the whole order of each CD? > ---------- > From: James A Hogard[SMTP:james.hogard at JUNO.COM] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 10:08 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: OFF: online CD prices > > I've just been tipped off to this place that offers a > sh*tload of CD's at $4.95 ea. Big _caveat emptor_; I > just placed an order on Friday, so I'm yet awaiting > the goods. Also, they state upfront "Offer limited to > no more than 5 CDs per order. Supplies are limited and > the offer may be revoked at any time." Shipping costs > may be prohibitive for non-U.S. folks. > > http://www.myshopnow.com/thegrape/ > > Hogard > From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Jun 8 11:45:51 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:45:51 EDT Subject: OFF: online CD prices Message-ID: In a message dated 99-06-08 10:08:57 EDT, you write: << http://www.myshopnow.com/thegrape/ Hogard >> --Yeah, this place was being discussed a few days ago. I just placed an order, too, for 5 CDs...now my fingers are crossed...will let ya'll know how it goes... Chuck From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Tue Jun 8 06:15:00 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:15:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Quark STrangeness and Charm Message-ID: >I have a question about Quark Strangeness and Charm >why there are two different releases and what the differences are if >they are different? Thanks, in advance. > >Joe Hi, I can't tell you much more than this, I've got an original 1977 Virgin Records release on vinyl CD's not being available at the time therefore one of the CD releases must be a direct Virgin release and presumably the other is a cheaper version released through another label. I suspect there will be no other differences other than the releasing agent. DOC............ From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Tue Jun 8 06:18:14 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:18:14 +0100 Subject: OFF:Terrastock Message-ID: >Terrastock III is scheduled to take place the weekend of August 27th, 28th >and 29th 1999 at the ULU (the University of London), Malet Street, London >WC1. > ARSE!!!!!!!! :-c I'm unable to attend this worthy event and you've upset me no end pointing out who's playing. Grump, Grump..... mumble.... moan..... DOC....... From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Jun 8 13:39:24 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:39:24 +0100 Subject: HW: Quark STrangeness and Charm Message-ID: On tis 8 jun 1999 11.15 +0100 "nigel.kew" wrote: > I can't tell you much more than this, > I've got an original 1977 Virgin Records release on vinyl CD's not being > available at the time therefore one of the CD releases must be a direct > Virgin release and presumably the other is a cheaper version released > through another label. I suspect there will be no other differences other > than the releasing agent. I used to have one of the original QS&C CD issues (Virgin? Charisma? Can't remember ...). It was terrible :) Not the sound, it just wouldn't play in some decks. Something in the mastering. I ditched it when the Griffin CDs came out and got one of those instead. Silly cover, but better product! -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 8 13:40:07 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:40:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Quark STrangeness and Charm In-Reply-To: Joe's message of Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:03:22 -0500 Message-ID: Joe writes: > I have a question about Quark Strangeness and Charm, I am looking through > CDUniverse, and it lists three different versions and EP, which I have, a > version for 9.99, which I also have as I recognize it from the cover, and > another for 23.97, which I don't have. I was wondering if anyone could tell > me why there are two different releases and what the differences are if > they are different? Thanks, in advance. > > Joe This is all the discography has: ********************************** 1977 Quark Strangeness And Charm (Charisma) (With sleeve insert. German version comes with colour negatives of Hawkwind in concert.) Spirit Of The Age (Brock/Calvert) Damnation Alley (Calvert/Brock/House) Fable Of A Failed Race (Brock/Calvert) Quark Strangeness And Charm (Brock/Calvert) Hassan I Sabha (Calvert/Rudolph) The Forge Of Vulcan (House) Days Of The Underground (Brock/Calvert) Iron Dream (King) 1994 Quark Strangeness and Charm CD single & 12" EP (The Emergency Broadcast System) Uncle Sam's on Mars (Red Planet Radio Mix) Quark Strangeness and Charm Black Sun Uncle Sam's on Mars (Martian Conquest Mix) 7" Quark, Strangeness, and Charm/ The Forge of Vulcan 1977 (Charisma) Quark, Strangeness, and Charm/ The Iron Dream 1977 (European Charisma) ******************************* The 1977 is the 12" vinyl album - later reissued as a CD but not all that rare I would have thought. The 1994 is the EP and also a CD single The two 7" are vinyl only releases - the 2nd probably being considerably rarer than the first though I'd have to check my price list to be sure. I'm not sure why so many versions are listed unless one is a vinyl offer or perhaps an overseas (say Japanese) issue. I don't think it came out as a box set? jill Obnewtoy> shortwave radio ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Tue Jun 8 15:26:12 1999 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 12:26:12 -0700 Subject: OFF: online CD prices Message-ID: X-Sender-Ip: 199.93.238.225 Organization: deja.com Mail (http://www.my-deja.com:80) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 1167 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, I ordered from this place as well (different storefront, though http://www.myshopnow.com/musicsearch). Placed the order on June 1st, and immediately received an e-mail confirmation, but haven't heard anything yet. Nor have I heard from anyone else who has received anything from this place yet, though several people have talked to the proprietors and it seems legit. BTW, the 5 CD limit is new. I heard they were receiving several orders of 100+ CDs and had to impose some kind of limit... MWood NP: Tangerine Dream - _Alpha Centauri_ On Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:08:15 James A Hogard wrote: >I've just been tipped off to this place that offers a >sh*tload of CD's at $4.95 ea. Big _caveat emptor_; I >just placed an order on Friday, so I'm yet awaiting >the goods. Also, they state upfront "Offer limited to >no more than 5 CDs per order. Supplies are limited and >the offer may be revoked at any time." Shipping costs >may be prohibitive for non-U.S. folks. > >http://www.myshopnow.com/thegrape/ > >Hogard > --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Jun 8 16:16:13 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:16:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Quark STrangeness and Charm Message-ID: I'd guess that one would be a Virgin reissue (the cheapest?). The other two would be the Griffin reissue, one in a box with "Queens of Deliria" (the expensive one) and the other the same but without the box and book. Unlike the "Astounding Sounds..." reissue, this has no extra tracks. Nick >I have a question about Quark Strangeness and Charm, I am looking through >CDUniverse, and it lists three different versions and EP, which I have, a >version for 9.99, which I also have as I recognize it from the cover, and >another for 23.97, which I don't have. I was wondering if anyone could tell >me why there are two different releases and what the differences are if >they are different? Thanks, in advance. > >Joe From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jun 8 19:23:10 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 00:23:10 +0100 Subject: HW: ASAM (was "Quark STrangeness and Charm") In-Reply-To: <003e01beb1eb$c314be20$2e49a8c2@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Nick Lee wrote: > I'd guess that one would be a Virgin reissue (the cheapest?). The other two > would be the Griffin reissue, one in a box with "Queens of Deliria" (the > expensive one) and the other the same but without the box and book. Unlike > the "Astounding Sounds..." reissue, this has no extra tracks. Really? What extra tracks are on which version of ASAM? I've been meaning to order the CD from the US for a little while now; sounds like I need to be sure which I get... Yours, Jon From p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU Tue Jun 8 19:48:48 1999 From: p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU (Peter Sondergeld) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:48:48 +1000 Subject: OFF: online CD prices Message-ID: An interesting twist on this has emerged recently here in Oz. Our illustrious federal government is forging ahead with a Goods & Services Tax (10%), and if you believe some commentators, it looks like making internet shopping a cheaper alternative to buying some products locally. CDs, among other things, could be cheaper offshore through mailorder than from our own domestic retailers. Mind you, they'll probably find a way to tax them somehow. Pete. ("Don't blame me, I voted Labor" - bumper sticker) ObCD: Best of Chain - Chain At 09:27 PM 6/7/99 +0100, you wrote: >Are online CD stores really that much cheaper and can you recommend a good >one ?? > >DOC.......... > > -- *************************************************************************** Peter Sondergeld p.sondergeld at qut.edu.au "I'm no stranger to hard work - more of a nodding acquaintance." - D.G. Harris **************************************** From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Jun 8 20:10:46 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 17:10:46 -0700 Subject: HW: ASAM (was "Quark Strangeness and Charm") Message-ID: On Wed, 9 Jun 1999 00:23:10 +0100, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > Really? What extra tracks are on which version of ASAM? I've been >meaning to order the CD from the US for a little while now; sounds like I >need to be sure which I get... I don't know about the Virgin pressing, which is long out of print anyway, but the Griffin version of ASAM has the three bonus tracks (recorded by the ASAM lineup) you would expect: Honky Dorky Back on the Streets Dream of Isis (OK, so Nik isn't on the last two so it's not EXACTLY the ASAM lineup, but close enough...) The CD's in either Griffin package (book or no) are identical. But what is it with all the Charisma-era reissues? Every single one seems to be missing credits, or includes incorrect/inaccurate ones. No songwriting info whatsoever on the Griffin ASAM! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jun 8 04:05:03 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:05:03 +0100 Subject: Bye for now In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990607153801.019f4430@mailhost.ed.harlequin.co.uk> Message-ID: In article <3.0.5.32.19990607153801.019f4430 at mailhost.ed.harlequin.co.uk >, Dave Berry writes cheers, Dave, best of luck etc. thanx again for the ICU vinyl! best -- Jon From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Jun 9 05:30:56 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:30:56 +0100 Subject: OFF: online CD prices Message-ID: On ons 9 jun 1999 09.48 +1000 "Peter Sondergeld" wrote: > An interesting twist on this has emerged recently here in Oz. Our > illustrious federal government is forging ahead with a Goods & Services Tax > (10%), and if you believe some commentators, it looks like making internet > shopping a cheaper alternative to buying some products locally. CDs, among > other things, could be cheaper offshore through mailorder than from our own > domestic retailers. > Mind you, they'll probably find a way to tax them somehow. As far as I can tell, that's pretty much the situation in the UK. Prices are high, taxes are high--if you're willing to wait, even ordering books from the US by slow mail is noticeably cheaper than walking down to the shop! But there are real savings to be had ordering from abroad, and not just from the US: Germany and the Netherlands are also good. An Ozzie friend was bemoaning the fact that the new Tea Party album was currently available only in Canada and Australia. I pointed out that he could mailorder it online and get it faster and in all liklihood cheaper than he would by waiting for a UK release. I read an amusing article in some knee-jerk-type political magazine, which bemoaned this state of affairs, and forecast much random doom. But it seems to me that governments would be well-served re-gearing advantage of mild commerical revolution taking place which *could* really give slow economies a poke, while "dirtside" shop owners should be fighting to get the restrictions which place them at a disadvantage eased. Meanwhile, I'm loving it not so much for the prices, but the variety! With a few mouse-clicks I can now get awesome music from places that I didn't know *had* a rock scene ten years ago. Cheers, Cark -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Wed Jun 9 05:50:41 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Gekke Henkie) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:50:41 +0200 Subject: HW: 3 records for sale/trade Message-ID: Hello all, Well I bought a house and will be moving soon so it's time to get rid of some left-overs. Found out that I still had some double items in my HW collection. These are all vinyl. The covers rate VG to EX and the vinyl is all EX. If you're interested let me know and maybe we can work out something. Sonic Attack RCALP6004 Utopia 1984 SKULL8369 Choose your masks RCALP6055 --BArt From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 9 06:03:59 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:03:59 +0100 Subject: HW: Info request from Jeremy Message-ID: Does anyone have any info on Festival gigs (see below)? I'm suddenly nervous! As a related comment I sent my cheque to Buxton and it was acknowledged with a promise of tickets to come but no tickets have arrived yet...... Are things happening?? ta jill ================================================== > Jill, > Apparently (unconfirmed) Back Street Heroes is advertising HW to play Rock > & Blues again this year. > But it true typical HW fashion the date coincides with the Buxton do. > Any ideas? > Could you please ask around on BOC-L ..... I am unable to send to it for > some strange reason. > Cheers, > Jez > > ---- End of forwarded text ---- ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Wed Jun 9 07:17:29 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:17:29 +1000 Subject: OFF: Oz Prices (was Re: OFF: online CD prices) Message-ID: On 9 Jun 99, at 9:48, Peter Sondergeld wrote: > An interesting twist on this has emerged recently here in Oz. Our > illustrious federal government is forging ahead with a Goods & Services > Tax (10%), and if you believe some commentators, it looks like making > internet shopping a cheaper alternative to buying some products locally. In fact, CD's will become cheaper in Australia as a result. Currently all CD imports attract a 22% sales tax which is payable at the point of entry (ie - customs clearance if imported, payable to wholesaler if local release). This sales tax will be dropped, so the 10% GST will make them cheaper locally than they are now. Of course, if you order small quantities online from abroad you won't get hit with the sales tax at the moment anyway, and as payment of GST will become the retailer's responsibility (rather than the current system of collecting the tax at customs unless you have a sales tax exemption), you probably won't get hit by the 10% slug when it's introduced. In the meantime, be careful if ordering CD's online .... if the total shipment is over $A200 in value you could get slugged the 22% sales tax (even on personal purchases) Soniqu? (still bemoaning all the pending extra hassle of handling GST for Sonic Bilby) -- PO Box 378 Paul Ward Ashburton http://sonique.net VIC 3147 (time permitting) Mob:0418 524744 sonique at sonique.net From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Wed Jun 9 08:38:41 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:38:41 +0100 Subject: BOC: Classic Rock Message-ID: The classic riff in the current issue of Classic Rock magazine (UK) is DFTR, featuring a mini interview with Buck. -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Wed Jun 9 08:37:12 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:37:12 +0100 Subject: HW - Remasters Of The Universe Message-ID: Silver Machine has been remixed by KLFer Jimmy Cauty and will be released as a 4 track CD credited to Hawkwind Infected By The Scourge Of The Earth. Allegedley this has been done from the original masters as EMI build up to a 2CD compilation, to be released in August. Castle are also rereleasing Live 79, Levitation, The Xenon Codex, Space Bandits (altho' they seem to think its called Space Cadets), Palace Springs & IITBOTFTBD this summer. -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jun 9 08:43:06 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:43:06 +0100 Subject: OFF: Tape ring In-Reply-To: <199906090901.FAA26291@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hi, Are we supposed to comment on the tape ring on-list or off ? I've benn playing mine for a couple of days now . . . Cheers for now, Mark. NP Tangerine Dream - Green Desert. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.demon.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jun 9 09:15:01 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:15:01 +0100 Subject: Tape ring In-Reply-To: Message-ID: As you like - it'll probably be of interest generally. I got a very spacey tape from Santtu, which I liked a lot - especially Ship of Fools and Amorphis, which (as per the stated aim of the exercise!) are bands I'd heard mentioned a lot but wasn't familiar with. Which is going to stretch my credit card even further!!! - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Mark P Lee > Sent: 09 June 1999 13:43 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: OFF: Tape ring > > > Hi, > > Are we supposed to comment on the tape ring on-list > or off ? > > I've benn playing mine for a couple of days now . . . > > Cheers for now, > > Mark. > > NP Tangerine Dream - Green Desert. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please reply to mark at esparto.demon.co.uk > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Wed Jun 9 09:36:08 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Gekke Henkie) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:36:08 +0200 Subject: Tape ring In-Reply-To: <000201beb27a$149c62a0$d03363c3@default> Message-ID: Op 9 Jun 99, om 14:15, Andy Gilham schreef: > As you like - it'll probably be of interest generally. here i go. Got the tape last saturday. I've played it about four times now. Some is real shite others are real gold. Dunno what to say about it. The cats hate it_or is it the volume_ :) Well this tape thing surely broadend my mind in a positive manner. Could we do it every quarter? Or is that just to much? Or could we keep the tape for a month and then send it on, I wanna hear more I'm gonna hate or love --BArt From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 9 09:49:40 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 14:49:40 +0100 Subject: HW: Quark STrangeness and Charm In-Reply-To: J Strobridge's message of Tue, 8 Jun 1999 18:40:07 +0100 Message-ID: J Strobridge writes: > Joe writes: > > > I have a question about Quark Strangeness and Charm, I am looking through > > CDUniverse, and it lists three different versions and EP, which I have, a > > version for 9.99, which I also have as I recognize it from the cover, and > > another for 23.97, which I don't have. I was wondering if anyone could tell > > me why there are two different releases and what the differences are if > > they are different? Thanks, in advance. > > > > Joe > > > > This is all the discography has: > > ********************************** > > 1977 Quark Strangeness And Charm (Charisma) (With sleeve insert. German > version comes with colour negatives of Hawkwind in concert.) > Spirit Of The Age (Brock/Calvert) > Damnation Alley (Calvert/Brock/House) > Fable Of A Failed Race (Brock/Calvert) > Quark Strangeness And Charm (Brock/Calvert) > Hassan I Sabha (Calvert/Rudolph) > The Forge Of Vulcan (House) > Days Of The Underground (Brock/Calvert) > Iron Dream (King) > > > 1994 Quark Strangeness and Charm CD single & 12" EP > (The Emergency Broadcast System) > Uncle Sam's on Mars (Red Planet Radio Mix) > Quark Strangeness and Charm > Black Sun > Uncle Sam's on Mars (Martian Conquest Mix) > > 7" > Quark, Strangeness, and Charm/ The Forge of Vulcan 1977 (Charisma) > Quark, Strangeness, and Charm/ The Iron Dream 1977 (European Charisma) > > ******************************* > > > The 1977 is the 12" vinyl album - later reissued as a CD but not all > that rare I would have thought. > The 1994 is the EP and also a CD single > The two 7" are vinyl only releases - the 2nd probably being > considerably rarer than the first though I'd have to check my price list > to be sure. > > I'm not sure why so many versions are listed unless one is a vinyl > offer or perhaps an overseas (say Japanese) issue. I don't think > it came out as a box set? One of them will be the Griffin release which came with a book. > jill FoFP From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jun 9 10:00:24 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:00:24 +0100 Subject: Tape ring In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, what we can do is, on a fairly regular basis, send on the tape you've just got, to the same person you sent your own tape to originally. If we do this like clockwork every month, then around Christmas 2000 you should get your own tape back (Nostradamus willing). There's an interesting mix of material on the tapes listed in Stuart's page! Mine and Alun's have some overlap (and no, there was no collaboration at all!), but there's very little otherwise. What diverse tastes we all have! :) - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jun 9 10:01:48 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:01:48 EDT Subject: OFF: online CD prices Message-ID: In a message dated 6/9/99 6:51:57 AM, cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK writes: << Cheers, Cark >> ....messrs. strangeness und charm will be by directly hoo-hah "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jun 9 10:06:33 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:06:33 EDT Subject: HW - Remasters Of The Universe Message-ID: In a message dated 6/9/99 8:36:19 AM, stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK writes: <> >> is a record being set here for the most times the same song has been released? look out, "white christmas"....^_~ "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jun 9 10:08:48 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:08:48 EDT Subject: Tape ring Message-ID: In a message dated 6/9/99 9:36:16 AM, bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL writes: <> i'd be happy to do it more than once a year; great fun it was... "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jun 9 10:44:22 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:44:22 EDT Subject: Tape ring Message-ID: In a message dated 6/9/99 10:06:22 AM, Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: <> gee, andy, if you werent kidding, why wouldst one want their own tape back? cosmically symetrical perhaps, but it would be a duplicate of stuff one already had...^_~ "<>" From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jun 9 12:13:20 1999 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 17:13:20 +0100 Subject: HW: Info request from Jeremy Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: J Strobridge To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 1999 11:03 AM Subject: HW: Info request from Jeremy > Does anyone have any info on Festival gigs (see below)? I'm > suddenly nervous! As a related comment I sent my cheque to > Buxton and it was acknowledged with a promise of tickets to come > but no tickets have arrived yet...... Are things happening?? > Don't be nervous! The BADAM tickets should return from printers this Thursday. I'm still waiting for mine, and I hear that the ticket design has changed a few times which explains the delay. > > ================================================== > > > Jill, > > Apparently (unconfirmed) Back Street Heroes is advertising HW to play Rock > > & Blues again this year. > > But it true typical HW fashion the date coincides with the Buxton do. > > Any ideas? > > Could you please ask around on BOC-L ..... I am unable to send to it for > > some strange reason. > > Cheers, > > Jez No, they don't coincide if Hawkwind played Rock and Blues as a 'warm up' gig on Friday 30th and played BADAM as the 'main' gig on Saturday 31st ... Please be aware that Rock and Blues is now a smaller festival than 1995 (police restrictions on size I think) and non-bikers are less welcome than those with bikes. Neil. From joe.e at TELIA.COM Wed Jun 9 13:12:25 1999 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:12:25 +0200 Subject: HW: Quark STrangeness and Charm Message-ID: isn't the virgin cd deleted since many moons ago? I've learnt the cheapest quark uses to be the Emergency Broadcast cd single. I've also learnt some online stores lists the exactly same product for different prices - they just are supplied from different directions, and therefore equiped with different id's in the stores database... peace .joe At 21:16 1999-06-08 +0100, you wrote: >I'd guess that one would be a Virgin reissue (the cheapest?). The other two >would be the Griffin reissue, one in a box with "Queens of Deliria" (the >expensive one) and the other the same but without the box and book. Unlike >the "Astounding Sounds..." reissue, this has no extra tracks. > >Nick > > >>I have a question about Quark Strangeness and Charm, I am looking through >>CDUniverse, and it lists three different versions and EP, which I have, a >>version for 9.99, which I also have as I recognize it from the cover, and >>another for 23.97, which I don't have. I was wondering if anyone could tell >>me why there are two different releases and what the differences are if >>they are different? Thanks, in advance. >> >>Joe > > From hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU Wed Jun 9 13:57:10 1999 From: hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU (hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:57:10 -0500 Subject: HW: Quark STrangeness and Charm In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19990609190142.114789c6@m1.171.telia.com> Message-ID: I ordered a copy of QS&C through Amazon.com in March, and it still is yet to arrive. Anyone know anything about that? And is Warrior on the Edge of Time available anywhere currently? I'm having a hard time finding that on CD... thanks, Thomas On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Johan Edlundh wrote: > isn't the virgin cd deleted since many moons ago? > I've learnt the cheapest quark uses to be the Emergency Broadcast cd single. > > I've also learnt some online stores lists the exactly same product for > different prices - they just are supplied from different directions, and > therefore equiped with different id's in the stores database... > > peace > .joe > > > > At 21:16 1999-06-08 +0100, you wrote: > >I'd guess that one would be a Virgin reissue (the cheapest?). The other two > >would be the Griffin reissue, one in a box with "Queens of Deliria" (the > >expensive one) and the other the same but without the box and book. Unlike > >the "Astounding Sounds..." reissue, this has no extra tracks. > > > >Nick > > > > > >>I have a question about Quark Strangeness and Charm, I am looking through > >>CDUniverse, and it lists three different versions and EP, which I have, a > >>version for 9.99, which I also have as I recognize it from the cover, and > >>another for 23.97, which I don't have. I was wondering if anyone could tell > >>me why there are two different releases and what the differences are if > >>they are different? Thanks, in advance. > >> > >>Joe > > > > > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Jun 9 14:44:15 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:44:15 +0100 Subject: HW - Remasters Of The Universe In-Reply-To: <375E5FF7.AC91007A@connectfree.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Stuart Hamilton wrote: > Castle are also rereleasing Live 79, Levitation, The Xenon Codex, Space > Bandits (altho' they seem to think its called Space Cadets), Palace > Springs & IITBOTFTBD this summer. Wasn't aware they'd stopped being released - certainly they're standard fare in most of the shops. Do you think this is likely to put the price up or down? Yours, Jon From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Jun 9 15:01:16 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:01:16 +0100 Subject: HW: Quark STrangeness and Charm In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 9 Jun 1999 hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU wrote: > And is Warrior on the Edge of Time available anywhere currently? I'm > having a hard time finding that on CD... Good luck! It took me bloody ages to find a copy in the US, and there hasn't been one seen in the UK for many moons. It's out of print both sides of the ocean, I fear. Yours, Jon From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Wed Jun 9 17:36:11 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 22:36:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Derby, Buxton and private party! Message-ID: Hello; Firstly the band want to apologise about the Burton Sci Fi gig and stress that they did not cancel, the promoter must accept all responsibility. It looks like we have been confirmed to play both the Derby Rock and Blues Festival (on the Friday) and the Buxton festival on the Saturday. On or about August 11th, Hawkwind will play a private party in Cornwall. This will be for passport holders only and more information will follow. Sorry about Mission Control being down, I was just updating it when we had a massive thunder and lightening storm and my computer crashed and corrupted the index page (or so I've been told), but it will be updated and up and running soon. Thats all for now Kris From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Jun 9 19:29:03 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:29:03 EDT Subject: OFF: online CD prices Message-ID: In a message dated 99-06-08 15:27:33 EDT, you write: << Yes, I ordered from this place as well (different storefront, though http://www.myshopnow.com/musicsearch). Placed the order on June 1st, and immediately received an e-mail confirmation, but haven't heard anything yet. Nor have I heard from anyone else who has received anything from this place yet, though several people have talked to the proprietors and it seems legit. BTW, the 5 CD limit is new. I heard they were receiving several orders of 100+ CDs and had to impose some kind of limit... MWood >> ---I recently placed an order w/them as well, for 5 CDs (all Zappa), the confirm. e-mail said 4-8 bus. days, I believe, like CDNOW...I'll let ya'll know as soon as they come (knock on wood). Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Jun 9 19:40:16 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:40:16 EDT Subject: HW: ASAM (was "Quark Strangeness and Charm") Message-ID: In a message dated 99-06-08 20:15:16 EDT, you write: << I don't know about the Virgin pressing, which is long out of print anyway, but the Griffin version of ASAM has the three bonus tracks (recorded by the ASAM lineup) you would expect: Honky Dorky Back on the Streets Dream of Isis (OK, so Nik isn't on the last two so it's not EXACTLY the ASAM lineup, but close enough...) The CD's in either Griffin package (book or no) are identical. But what is it with all the Charisma-era reissues? Every single one seems to be missing credits, or includes incorrect/inaccurate ones. No songwriting info whatsoever on the Griffin ASAM! -Doug >> ---Saw this CD (CDonly) 1-2 years ago at Virgin Megastore, thought I'd wait for used/better price. Now I'm cursing my ass for not having bought it. It's not exactly the greatest HW album, but a few good tunes (esp. "Chronoglide Skyway") and I've still never heard any of those 3 bonus tracks. ---And speaking of Griffin releases; I recently (finally!) rec'd Brock's "Strange Trips". I already had the Psyche Warriors CDs. Noticing that both have identical versions of "Pipe Dreams" and "White Zone", I was wondering if Brock's album was recorded completely solo or w/Chadwick and/or Davey, because there's no info on the insert as to performance credits. Also, when exactly was the material for these two albums recorded? Just curious, thanks, Chuck From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Thu Jun 10 04:29:22 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Gekke Henkie) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:29:22 +0200 Subject: off: brainscan Message-ID: Hi, check this out... http://www.qix.nl/ its making me nuts \-) --BArt From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Jun 10 04:45:13 1999 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Rich Lockwood) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:45:13 +0100 Subject: OFF: Tape ring Message-ID: I would, but mine hasn't arrived yet... :-( Cheers, Rich. Mark P Lee wrote: > Hi, > > Are we supposed to comment on the tape ring on-list > or off ? > > I've benn playing mine for a couple of days now . . . > > Cheers for now, > > Mark. > > NP Tangerine Dream - Green Desert. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please reply to mark at esparto.demon.co.uk > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Thu Jun 10 04:34:36 1999 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:34:36 +0200 Subject: OFF: Alan Davey. Message-ID: Greetings spacerockers! Latest info from Black Widow Records is that the new Alan Davey cd based on the "Sci-fi delic" minicd is once again delayed and hopefully it?ll be out during October (this year). See you in space Hawkswede -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI Thu Jun 10 05:03:15 1999 From: sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI (Santeri Laakso) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:03:15 +0300 Subject: off: brainscan In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Gekke Henkie wrote: > Hi, > > check this out... > http://www.qix.nl/ > > its making me nuts \-) > > --BArt > Well, it simply removes all the first cards... Santtu From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jun 10 05:46:37 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:46:37 +0900 Subject: off: brainscan Message-ID: Santeri Laakso wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Gekke Henkie wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > check this out... > > http://www.qix.nl/ > > > > its making me nuts \-) > > > > --BArt > > > Well, it simply removes all the first cards... > > Santtu But I love the animated background on the scanning page :-) -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Jun 9 10:50:55 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:50:55 +0100 Subject: Tape ring In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 10:08 09/06/99 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 6/9/99 9:36:16 AM, bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL writes: > ><Could we do it every quarter? Or is that just too much? Or could we >keep the tape for a month and then send it on, I wanna hear more >I'm gonna hate or love >>> > >i'd be happy to do it more than once a year; great fun it was... >"<>" I'm contemplating injecting another tape into the ring anyway - I think I was too conservative in a lot of my selections, but i'll probably wait until a couple have passed through my hands first... ChrisW If anybody wants to check out my track list (and notes) ahead of schedule, take a look at http://users.breathemail.net/ciwsolutions/Academic2.htm From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Jun 10 07:05:25 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:05:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Quark STrangeness and Charm In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 20:01 09/06/99 +0100, you wrote: >On Wed, 9 Jun 1999 hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU wrote: > >> And is Warrior on the Edge of Time available anywhere currently? I'm >> having a hard time finding that on CD... > > Good luck! It took me bloody ages to find a copy in the US, and >there hasn't been one seen in the UK for many moons. It's out of print >both sides of the ocean, I fear. Yours, > Jon > Out of print, maybe, but not impossible to find: within the last 12 months I found a copy of the Griffin edition in the box with the collectors guide in the Nottingham branch of Selectadisc, and I have seen an "ordinary" one somewhere since then (blowed if I can remember where though). ChrisW NP:1999 Party From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Jun 10 07:07:30 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 12:07:30 +0100 Subject: HW - Remasters Of The Universe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 19:44 09/06/99 +0100, you wrote: >On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Stuart Hamilton wrote: > >> Castle are also rereleasing Live 79, Levitation, The Xenon Codex, Space >> Bandits (altho' they seem to think its called Space Cadets), Palace >> Springs & IITBOTFTBD this summer. > > Wasn't aware they'd stopped being released - certainly they're >standard fare in most of the shops. Do you think this is likely to put the >price up or down? Yours, > Jon I concur: I see most of these fairly regularly in assorted branches of HMV, Virgin &c. (usually at ?6.99). ChrisW From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Jun 10 08:05:21 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:05:21 +0100 Subject: off: brainscan Message-ID: On tor 10 jun 1999 12.03 +0300 "Santeri Laakso" wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jun 1999, Gekke Henkie wrote: >> check this out... >> http://www.qix.nl/ >> its making me nuts \-) > > Well, it simply removes all the first cards... My dad fell for that, too ;) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Jun 10 09:31:14 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:31:14 EDT Subject: Tape ring Message-ID: In a message dated 6/10/99 6:18:01 AM, desdinova at EARTHLING.NET writes: <> actually i did exactly that, since i hadnt made a comp tape like i was 'spozed to the first time...so my "subject" was doubly blessed ^_~ "<>" From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Thu Jun 10 10:42:03 1999 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (James A Hogard) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:42:03 -0500 Subject: OFF: Tape ring Message-ID: >Are we supposed to comment on the tape ring on-list >or off ? I just received mine yesterday & am giving it a first listen now. Hogard From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jun 10 11:06:43 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:06:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: Tape ring In-Reply-To: <19990610.094344.215.1.james.hogard@juno.com> Message-ID: I did make most people send their tape from one side of the Atlantic to the other... - Andy ObCD: Rory Gallagher - _Deuce_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of James A Hogard > Sent: 10 June 1999 15:42 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: OFF: Tape ring > > > >Are we supposed to comment on the tape ring on-list > >or off ? > > I just received mine yesterday & am giving it a first > listen now. > > Hogard > From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jun 10 13:36:11 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:36:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Kris Tait Message-ID: Hi this is one for Kris! I was talking to one of the drama tutors in the English Department at Edinburgh University and confessed that I was going to the Buxton Festival and I was really into Hawkwind and the tutor said "Oh really - I taught someone connected with Hawkwind while I was teaching at Exeter". So does Kris remember Olga Taxidou, drama tutor at Exeter? Olga certainly remembers you and sends her regards and best wishes. And she was telling me about the t-shirts! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Jun 10 04:23:55 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:23:55 +0100 Subject: HW: Quark STrangeness and Charm In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Jonathan Jarrett writes >On Wed, 9 Jun 1999 hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU wrote: > >> And is Warrior on the Edge of Time available anywhere currently? I'm >> having a hard time finding that on CD... > > Good luck! It took me bloody ages to find a copy in the US, and >there hasn't been one seen in the UK for many moons. It's out of print >both sides of the ocean, I fear. Yours, > Jon I might have a spare somewhere....ask me again in a couple of days, I'll keep an eye out for it. My stuff whirls about my head, and I have to stick my hand out to catch the bits I need, kind of thing...... -- (the other) Jon From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Jun 10 19:17:59 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:17:59 -0700 Subject: BOC: Remastered BOC/T&M Message-ID: ... just found a good review on the net while srfin' around ... http://www.cosmik.com/aa-june99/reviews/review_boc.html -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Fri Jun 11 03:34:13 1999 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:34:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Warrior OTEOT (was: Quark STrangeness and Charm) Message-ID: I have a spare copy of the Warrior CD (autographed by mike Moorcock too!!!!!!!) If anybody is interested in it, I could hold an auction!!!!! Guy -----Original Message----- From: Chris Warburton [mailto:desdinova at EARTHLING.NET] Sent: 10 June 1999 13:26 To: Thomas Guy; Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: HW: Quark STrangeness and Charm At 20:01 09/06/99 +0100, you wrote: >On Wed, 9 Jun 1999 hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU wrote: > >> And is Warrior on the Edge of Time available anywhere currently? I'm >> having a hard time finding that on CD... > > Good luck! It took me bloody ages to find a copy in the US, and >there hasn't been one seen in the UK for many moons. It's out of print >both sides of the ocean, I fear. Yours, > Jon > Out of print, maybe, but not impossible to find: within the last 12 months I found a copy of the Griffin edition in the box with the collectors guide in the Nottingham branch of Selectadisc, and I have seen an "ordinary" one somewhere since then (blowed if I can remember where though). ChrisW NP:1999 Party From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Fri Jun 11 05:03:24 1999 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 05:03:24 EDT Subject: HW: Quark STrangeness and Charm Message-ID: Just a note of warning ...if youre looking for Warrior in the box with the collectors guide...I dont know why but some uk catalogues frequently listed the Warrior box when what they really had was the California Brainstorm box (Also with the guide)...Certainly this was a common problem in most of the major chains and many indy stores...I think they had similar catalogue numbers or something,or maybe the boxes looked similar,I dont know never having seen the boxed Warrior. I do have the Boxed Brainstorm however ,and nearly ended up with 5 other copies in attempts (unsuccessful) to get Warrior. From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Jun 11 05:15:42 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:15:42 +0100 Subject: Beer Message-ID: Thought you might like this that came to the Jackie Leven listserver via the Pogues/Shane McGowan list: > After the Great Britain Beer Festival, in London, all the brewery > presidents decided to go out for a beer. > > The guy from Corona sits down and says "Hey Sen~or, I would like the > world's best beer, a Corona." The bartender dusts off a bottle from > the shelf and gives it to him. > > The guy from Budweiser says "I'd like the best beer in the world, give > me 'The King Of Beers', a Budweiser." The bartender gives him one. > > The guy from Coors says "I'd like the only beer made with Rocky > Mountain spring water, give me a Coors." He gets it. > > The guy from Guinness sits down and says "Give me a Coke." The > bartender is a little taken aback, but gives him what he ordered. > > The other brewery presidents look over at him and ask "Why aren't you > drinking a Guinness?" and the Guinness president replies "Well, if you > guys aren't drinking beer, neither will I." From SHLL at NOVO.DK Fri Jun 11 06:01:19 1999 From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:01:19 +0200 Subject: HW: Cornwall Message-ID: Hej, So who is planning on trying to go to the Passport Holders only concert in Cornwall? Seems like the band is not that interested in pulling in all the foreign holders by holding the concert in the far west corner of england on a wednesday? I would really like to go but will have to choose between terrastock III and this show.. Anyone know (Kris?) how many passport holders there are? Kris told me that I was not the only one in Denmark. I have no idea who the other one is... SCott ObCD- Korai ?r?m- Recycled (Hungary 1998) From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Fri Jun 11 08:21:20 1999 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:21:20 +0200 Subject: HW: Cornwall Message-ID: > So who is planning on trying to go to the Passport Holders only > concert in Cornwall? Seems like the band is not that interested in pulling > in all the foreign holders by holding the concert in the far west corner of > england on a wednesday? I would really like to go but will have to choose > between terrastock III and this show.. If all goes well I will travel to the HW private party. The reason for this event taking place in Cornwall is that the eclipse can be viewed only in the south-western part of the UK. And I?ll be going to Terrastock III as well! Andreas From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jun 11 09:19:14 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:19:14 +0100 Subject: HW - Remasters Of The Universe Message-ID: >Silver Machine has been remixed by KLFer Jimmy Cauty and will be >released as a 4 track CD credited to Hawkwind Infected By The >Scourge Of >The Earth. I've have fortunate to hear this top tune & I repeat it is a top remix, when I saw Nik Turner on Tuesday. I will write a reveiw later but for now recommend Silver Machine remix to everyone..... DOC........... From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jun 11 09:35:34 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:35:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Derby, Buxton and private party! Message-ID: >On or about August 11th, Hawkwind will play a private party in Cornwall. >This will be for passport holders only and more information will follow. Bollox, I'm at Sea! always seem to miss the cool stuff. Grumpy Doc...... :-c From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jun 11 11:45:24 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 16:45:24 +0100 Subject: HW: Cornwall In-Reply-To: Scott Heller's message of Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:01:19 +0200 Message-ID: Scott Heller writes: > Hej, > > So who is planning on trying to go to the Passport Holders only > concert in Cornwall? Seems like the band is not that interested in pulling > in all the foreign holders by holding the concert in the far west corner of > england on a wednesday? They tried to get the eclipse scheduled for a Saturday but the Cosmic Engineers had to go to a conference that day. FoFP From hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET Fri Jun 11 14:53:35 1999 From: hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:53:35 -0500 Subject: HW:SD 99 Message-ID: I just heard from Jim SD 99 tickets are now on sale at the Strange Trips address, $50 each. Helios Creed has been added to the show, and Hawkwind are now a maybe(of course maybe not, too)! From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jun 11 16:23:53 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:23:53 +0100 Subject: OFFish: Nik Turners all stars Message-ID: For those that are interested I saw Nik and his all stars going under name Cubano Kickasso on Tuesday. It was held in a public house in the barbican area of plymouth (which is nice) but unfortunately it a bit out the way. Publicity for the event was very poor consisting a brief mention in the local paper and one poster outside the venue itself. If you are wondering about the extended dit on the locale, I'm just setting the scene for when I arrived with 2 mates 15 mins before the programmed start time of 2200. Any way we turned up to find the Lord of Hawks on stage playing to 3 people. This turned out to be a false start he was just sound checking so once he disappeared copiuos amount s of ale were consumed, whilst approx. 20 other people turned up. Nik kicked off abit later with some top acid/funk/jazz but since it all seems pretty similiar to me especially after several ales I could not tell you what they were except that it rocked. During the interval I had a chat with him and he's been busking in south Wales for the past couple of years and is just doing a bit of a tour prior to signing a new record deal, he didn't say who with. During the first half as a bit of a wheeze I called out for 'washing machine' the old NT classic live piss take of you know what, but Nik didn't hear me correct and during the interval slapped on both the new remix of SM and the original. The second half kicked off a bit more rock and roll and dancing was seen to occur, later I stagger my weary way home by no means in possesion of all my faculties. Basically a top gig marred only by the poor turn out from the janners and pointed heads who obviously fail in the good music appreciation department. To anyone who has made it down here thanks for listening, sorry could not give a detailed critical judgement on the gig but jazz is not normally my thing but I did have a top time in the presence of a master of reality. DOC......... (I make bombs in my cellar) From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sat Jun 12 07:07:53 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 12:07:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: BOC-L TAPE SWAP Message-ID: I've updated the page today. There are now 14 tapes listed. Click on the URL below, pick Bitter Wind, then BOC99 tape swap. Z NP Allman Brothers Band - 2nd Set (w/Warren Haynes & Allen Woody) -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com "Never Judge A Man (Until You're Standing In His Shoes)" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Jun 12 10:01:33 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 10:01:33 EDT Subject: OFF: "i'm dead, jim" Message-ID: RIP Deforest Kelley From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sun Jun 13 19:02:25 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 00:02:25 +0100 Subject: OFF: "i'm dead, jim" In-Reply-To: DASLUD@AOL.COM's message of Sat, 12 Jun 1999 10:01:33 EDT Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: > RIP Deforest Kelley > This might explain the postponement of the Avalon convention. I'd heard it was because of somebody's serious illness but it was being kept very quiet as to who exactly it was. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From SHLL at NOVO.DK Mon Jun 14 04:02:15 1999 From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:02:15 +0200 Subject: HW: PT Message-ID: Hej, I just saw that the new issue of the Ptolamaic Terrascope Magazine #27 due out in July has a Dave Brock interview in. The magazine has a CD now days instead of a 7 inch and it has so far, always included unreleased material by the artists in the mag, so we can hope that Dave gave up something cool... I hope to see you all at the ecilipse concert in Cornwall on the 11th... It will be great to finally meet all these people that I have been corresponding with on the list for some many years.. I hope you all can make it! Anyone have the Dawn of Hawkwind or BBC Archives CD's yet? scott ObCD- Mr. Quimby's Beard- THe mystery of.... From SHLL at NOVO.DK Mon Jun 14 04:46:22 1999 From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:46:22 +0200 Subject: HW: German Fan Meeting Message-ID: Hej, Did anyone go to the Hawkfan meeting in Hamburg this weekend? Did Bedoiun, Huw or SPacehead really play? I had a great time last year and would like to hear how it turned out? Scott ObMD- Nebula- K?benhavn 5/22/99 From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Mon Jun 14 05:53:10 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Gekke Henkie) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 11:53:10 +0200 Subject: HW: passport Message-ID: Hi, With HW Mission Control being out of the sky, can anyone give me the addres where I can get a hold of a passport? Thanx a lot, --BArt From clemens at TRAIL.COM Mon Jun 14 09:42:20 1999 From: clemens at TRAIL.COM (Clemens & Associates) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:42:20 -0600 Subject: HW: passport Message-ID: >Hi, >With HW Mission Control being out of the sky, can anyone give me >the addres where I can get a hold of a passport? >Thanx a lot, >--BArt You'll find it here, Mark L. http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/whats_new.html From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Jun 14 10:07:28 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:07:28 EDT Subject: OFF:Fwd: Virus Warning !!! Don't touch ZIPPED_FILES.EXE !!! Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Colletti, Diana" Subject: Virus Warning !!! Don't touch ZIPPED_FILES.EXE !!! Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:26:00 -0400 Size: 1418 URL: From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Jun 14 10:10:14 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:10:14 EDT Subject: OFF:Fwd: More Info on Worm Virus Message-ID: is this relevant to the list, gang? -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Colletti, Diana" Subject: More Info on Worm Virus Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 09:29:00 -0400 Size: 2310 URL: From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Mon Jun 14 10:56:14 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 07:56:14 -0700 Subject: "i'm dead, jim" Message-ID: Bones! Say it ain't so! Is it me or did he look awfully thin and sickly these last few years? Cancer? Another icon of my youth bites the dust.. :( JB > -----Original Message----- > From: DASLUD at AOL.COM [mailto:DASLUD at AOL.COM] > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 1999 7:02 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: OFF: "i'm dead, jim" > > > RIP Deforest Kelley > From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Mon Jun 14 10:56:13 1999 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 15:56:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Derby, Buxton and private party! Message-ID: HUGE Bollox !!!!! I'm on holiday in Scotland, (couldn't get much further away in the UK !!!) Shame really, as it would have been nice to video it (if Kris & Dave had gaven the OK!) GeeTee. -----Original Message----- From: nigel.kew [mailto:nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET] Sent: 11 June 1999 13:35 To: Thomas Guy; Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: HW: Derby, Buxton and private party! >On or about August 11th, Hawkwind will play a private party in Cornwall. >This will be for passport holders only and more information will follow. Bollox, I'm at Sea! always seem to miss the cool stuff. Grumpy Doc...... :-c From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Mon Jun 14 11:26:11 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:26:11 -0500 Subject: HW: Warrior OTEOT (was: Quark STrangeness and Charm) Message-ID: Auction Away ! ! sssput -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Guy To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Friday, June 11, 1999 2:52 AM Subject: HW: Warrior OTEOT (was: Quark STrangeness and Charm) >I have a spare copy of the Warrior CD (autographed by mike Moorcock >too!!!!!!!) > >If anybody is interested in it, I could hold an auction!!!!! > >Guy > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Warburton [mailto:desdinova at EARTHLING.NET] > Sent: 10 June 1999 13:26 > To: Thomas Guy; Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: HW: Quark STrangeness and Charm > > > At 20:01 09/06/99 +0100, you wrote: > >On Wed, 9 Jun 1999 hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU wrote: > > > >> And is Warrior on the Edge of Time available anywhere >currently? I'm > >> having a hard time finding that on CD... > > > > Good luck! It took me bloody ages to find a copy in >the US, and > >there hasn't been one seen in the UK for many moons. It's >out of print > >both sides of the ocean, I fear. Yours, > > Jon > > > > Out of print, maybe, but not impossible to find: within the >last 12 months > I found a copy of the Griffin edition in the box with the >collectors guide > in the Nottingham branch of Selectadisc, and I have seen an >"ordinary" one > somewhere since then (blowed if I can remember where >though). > > ChrisW > NP:1999 Party From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Mon Jun 14 11:55:25 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:55:25 -0500 Subject: HW: PT Message-ID: My "Dawn" was shipped from England on June 6, and as of right now, still on the way.... BBC was listed, and then removed. I don't know any details on that CD yet. Hawkman -----Original Message----- From: SHLL (Scott Heller) To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Monday, June 14, 1999 3:09 AM Subject: HW: PT >Hej, > >I just saw that the new issue of the Ptolamaic Terrascope Magazine #27 due >out in July has a Dave Brock interview in. The magazine has a CD now days >instead of a 7 inch and it has so far, always included unreleased material >by the artists in the mag, so we can hope that Dave gave up something >cool... > >I hope to see you all at the ecilipse concert in Cornwall on the 11th... It >will be great to finally meet all these people that I have been >corresponding with on the list for some many years.. I hope you all can >make it! > >Anyone have the Dawn of Hawkwind or BBC Archives CD's yet? > >scott > >ObCD- Mr. Quimby's Beard- THe mystery of.... From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jun 14 16:41:29 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:41:29 +0100 Subject: HW: PT Message-ID: Hi all, Please enlighten the ignorant what's the "Dawn"? DOC..... - >My "Dawn" was shipped from England on June 6, and as of right now, still >on the way.... > >BBC was listed, and then removed. I don't know any details on that CD yet. > >Hawkman > > From brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jun 14 17:06:24 1999 From: brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:06:24 +0100 Subject: HW PT In-Reply-To: <27839F4FFBF6D21181E20008C7C5640809F14B@exdkba04.novo.dk> Message-ID: Hello All I just got Dawn Of Hawkwind and like it very much it was quite a surprise to hear Dave introducing the segments the packaging was first class the book alone almost made it worthwhile. Does anyone know where that version of MotU was recorded I thought I had heard all the early versions but that seems different. It sounds like the Hawkwind Zoo version of Hurry on Sundown. All in all thoroughly recommended. Brian From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Mon Jun 14 18:55:28 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:55:28 -0500 Subject: HW: PT Message-ID: >Please enlighten the ignorant what's the "Dawn"? > >DOC..... Dawn of Hawkwind - latest CD release Hawkman From makmorn at QIS.NET Mon Jun 14 19:00:13 1999 From: makmorn at QIS.NET (Daniel Ligon) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 19:00:13 -0400 Subject: OFF:Fwd: More Info on Worm Virus In-Reply-To: ; from DASLUD@AOL.COM on Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 10:10:14AM -0400 Message-ID: On Mon, Jun 14, 1999 at 10:10:14AM -0400, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > is this relevant to the list, gang? Not in the least. -- Daniel Ligon makmorn at qis.net The entire story of Imaginos has not been told and only time will tell if the riddle will begin. -- Albert From flossbac at NLCI.COM Mon Jun 14 19:03:54 1999 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:03:54 -0500 Subject: HW: PT Message-ID: What is the track listing on this "Dawn of Hawkwind" CD? Is it stuff not released before? Or is this the same as the original "Dawn of Hawkwind" bootleg CD? John Majka flossbac at nlci.com From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Mon Jun 14 19:16:00 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 00:16:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Space Ritual is "Buried Treasure" Message-ID: My July Mojo arrived this morning, and their "Buried Treasure - great albums that time forgot" article is on 'Space Ritual Alive. "a sprawling, in-concert double affair clad in a gloriously OTT fold-out sleeve, provides the missing link between psychedelia & punk rock, and was indeed fuelled by a salad of acid & amphetamines." as if we didn't know... "Its blend of comic-book sci-fi fantasies and musical values that sounded positively prehistoric in 1973 was lapped up by a subterranean audience of speeding bikers and space cadets, heavy metal kids and errant schoolboys." well, at least we know what we are now *g* "More than 25 years later, its trance-rock throb and woozy analogue noodlings remain in remarkably rude health." There's a whole page devoted to it, with a potted history, a few words from DB, and on the whole, it's very favourable. Cheers, ChrisW From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Jun 15 04:33:21 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:33:21 +0100 Subject: HW: Steve Swindells Message-ID: I see that Steve has started recording again, under the name of Sacrosanct, with Loretta Hammond of Bomb the bass. There's Real Audio files to be found at http://www.chocolateboy.com. - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI Tue Jun 15 03:18:01 1999 From: sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI (Santeri Laakso) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:18:01 +0300 Subject: HW PT In-Reply-To: <000401beb6a9$c297a940$9b6b883e@computer> Message-ID: Hi! Where can I get this Dawn from? How much is it? Santtu On Mon, 14 Jun 1999, Brian Coulthard wrote: > Hello All > > I just got Dawn Of Hawkwind and like it very much it was quite a surprise > to hear Dave introducing the segments the packaging was first class the book > alone almost made it worthwhile. Does anyone know where that version of MotU > was recorded I thought I had heard all the early versions but that seems > different. It sounds like the Hawkwind Zoo version of Hurry on Sundown. All > in all thoroughly recommended. > > Brian > From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Tue Jun 15 09:33:33 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 09:33:33 -0400 Subject: Space Ritual is "Buried Treasure" Message-ID: > "More than 25 years later, its trance-rock throb and woozy analogue > noodlings remain in remarkably rude health." > > There's a whole page devoted to it, with a potted history, a few words > from > DB, and on the whole, it's very favourable. > Favorable? I don't even know what it means? ". . . rude health?" ". . . analogue noodlings?" From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Tue Jun 15 10:12:46 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:12:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga Message-ID: Hi > > > > this is one for Kris! I was talking to one of the drama tutors > > in the English Department at Edinburgh University and confessed that I > > was going to the Buxton Festival and I was really into Hawkwind and the > > tutor said "Oh really - I taught someone connected with Hawkwind while I > > was teaching at Exeter". > > > > So does Kris remember Olga Taxidou, drama tutor at Exeter? > > Olga certainly remembers you and sends her regards and best wishes. > > And she was telling me about the t-shirts! > > > > jill > > Hi > > Yes I remember Olga! Tell her: > "Post Feminism?...............Don't make me laugh!" and say hello and best > wishes to her. > By the way, do you (or anyone on the list) live in Edinburgh? If so has > there been any advertising for a concert/event around the 27th August > under Edinburgh Castle, with Ken Kesey (Merry Pranksters), Paul McCartney > and the original line up of Hawkwind? we have been approached to do it and > it is supposed to be a large confirmed event. If this is so it should have > been publicised by now. Can anyone tell us if they have seen any > advertising? > Also we are trying to compile a list of Hawkwind songs that have been > recorded by other artists, does anyone know of any, no matter how obscure? > > Thanks > > Kris > > From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Jun 15 10:13:46 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:13:46 EDT Subject: Space Ritual is "Buried Treasure" Message-ID: In a message dated 6/15/99 9:35:08 AM, russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM writes: <<> Favorable? I don't even know what it means? <<". . . rude health?" ". . .>> as brash/loud/raucous now as it was then? <> in reference to pre-digital electronics? y'think? "<>" From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Tue Jun 15 10:28:44 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:28:44 -0700 Subject: Imaginos? Was: OFF:Fwd: More Info on Worm Virus Message-ID: Curious what/when and in what context is the quote below from? Could it be that tBS are gonna continue the saga? > > The entire story of Imaginos has not been told and only time will > tell if the riddle will begin. > > -- Albert > From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Tue Jun 15 11:23:33 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:23:33 -0500 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga Message-ID: >> Also we are trying to compile a list of Hawkwind songs that have been >> recorded by other artists, does anyone know of any, no matter how >obscure? Don't forget Monster Magnets' "Brainstorm" (I believe it's Brainstorm) and Amorphis' "Levitation" Hawkman. From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Tue Jun 15 11:31:57 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:31:57 -0500 Subject: HW: PT Message-ID: >What is the track listing on this "Dawn of Hawkwind" CD? Is it stuff not >released before? Or is this the same as the original "Dawn of Hawkwind" >bootleg CD? >John Majka Totally different. Pre-Hawkwind to 1st Album? Go to Hawkeyes' web site. He's got the info. Hawkman. www.intplsrv.net/hawkman (Links to good sites are on my Information Page) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 15 14:00:19 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:00:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga In-Reply-To: XXX's message of Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:12:46 +0100 Message-ID: XXX writes: > > By the way, do you (or anyone on the list) live in Edinburgh? There are a handful of us I believe. > > If so has > > there been any advertising for a concert/event around the 27th August > > under Edinburgh Castle, with Ken Kesey (Merry Pranksters), Paul McCartney > > and the original line up of Hawkwind? Not that I've heard of, though it sounds fantastic! Is this something to do with the Festival or the Fringe? If anyone needs any hel then consider me a volunteer. > we have been approached to do it > and > > it is supposed to be a large confirmed event. If this is so it should > have > > been publicised by now. Can anyone tell us if they have seen any > > advertising? I'll look into it, but more clues, like the name of the venue or who you've been dealing with would help. > > Also we are trying to compile a list of Hawkwind songs that have been > > recorded by other artists, does anyone know of any, no matter how > obscure? I guess the folks who've been doing the Hawkwind Covers All project should be able to help with this? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 15 14:01:12 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:01:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga In-Reply-To: Stephan Spiegel's message of Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:23:33 -0500 Message-ID: Stephan Spiegel writes: > >> Also we are trying to compile a list of Hawkwind songs that have been > >> recorded by other artists, does anyone know of any, no matter how > >obscure? > > > Don't forget Monster Magnets' "Brainstorm" > (I believe it's Brainstorm) > and Amorphis' "Levitation" And of course James Last's "Silver Machine". FoFP From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Tue Jun 15 14:03:01 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 14:03:01 -0400 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga Message-ID: Oh, man. Someone forward the track list to the four tape set distributed here a while back... And add Finally Balanced's terrific cover of Hurry on Sundown! Ron -----Original Message----- From: Stephan Spiegel To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 11:54 AM Subject: Re: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga >>> Also we are trying to compile a list of Hawkwind songs that have been >>> recorded by other artists, does anyone know of any, no matter how >>obscure? > > >Don't forget Monster Magnets' "Brainstorm" >(I believe it's Brainstorm) > and Amorphis' "Levitation" > >Hawkman. From tclark at PETRONET.NET Wed Jun 16 14:23:35 1999 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:23:35 -0500 Subject: HW Covers Message-ID: DC3, an LA punkish-jam band band fronted by ex-Black Flag guitarist Dez Cadena, a major Hawkwind fan, did PSI Power on their 1988 album, Vida. > > > Also we are trying to compile a list of Hawkwind songs that have been > > > recorded by other artists, does anyone know of any, no matter how > > obscure? > > I guess the folks who've been doing the Hawkwind Covers All project > should be able to help with this? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: tclark.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 173 bytes Desc: Card for Tom Clark URL: From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Tue Jun 15 14:55:46 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:55:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga Message-ID: Of course there is always Dr & the Medics Silver Machine Are you interested in samples such as PWEI's sampling of Sonic Attack on 'Can you dig it'. DOC...... From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Tue Jun 15 15:41:50 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: HW Covers Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Tom Clark To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 2:54 PM Subject: Re: HW Covers >DC3, an LA punkish-jam band band fronted by ex-Black Flag guitarist Dez Cadena, a >major Hawkwind fan, did PSI Power on their 1988 album, Vida. And Angels of Death, Same medley. From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Jun 15 16:05:33 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:05:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga Message-ID: >Of course there is always Dr & the Medics Silver Machine > >Are you interested in samples such as PWEI's sampling of Sonic Attack on >'Can you dig it'. > >DOC...... Didn't they do a cover of Orgone Accumulator on their "Love Missile F1-11" (or somesuch) EP, c.1986? Nick From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Jun 15 16:00:05 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:00:05 -0700 Subject: HW Covers Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:41:50 -0400, Sprawl wrote: >-----Original Message----- >From: Tom Clark >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Date: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 2:54 PM >Subject: Re: HW Covers > >>DC3, an LA punkish-jam band band fronted by ex-Black Flag guitarist Dez >>Cadena, a major Hawkwind fan, did PSI Power on their 1988 album, Vida. > >And Angels of Death, Same medley. And "Master of the Universe", too, on a different album. I forget which one; I don't own any of their albums because, unfortunately, except for their Hawkwind covers, they sorta sucked. Too bad, 'cause I love Dez-era Black Flag (I'd rather hear him sing than Henry!) and the Screamers (the band synth/bass-player Paul Roessler was previously in - definitely worth checking out for fans of Chrome, Metal Urbain, and other 70s space-punk bands). And, on Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:55:46 +0100, "nigel.kew" wrote: >Of course there is always Dr & the Medics Silver Machine > >Are you interested in samples such as PWEI's sampling of Sonic Attack on >'Can you dig it'. Not to mention their full cover of "Orgone Accumulator" that was on one of their very first records. Who has the complete tracklist for the 'Hawkwind Covers All' project to forward to the list? -Doug ceres at sirius.com (who has recently been proliferating B?C covers via Primordial Undermind's unplugged [2 acoustic guitars, violin, electric bass] "Flaming Telepaths", due out on next album, and by Dogbreath's live rendition of "Dominance and Submission" last weekend, complete with smoke & laser!) From joe.e at TELIA.COM Tue Jun 15 16:19:18 1999 From: joe.e at TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 22:19:18 +0200 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga Message-ID: >> > Also we are trying to compile a list of Hawkwind songs that have been >> > recorded by other artists, does anyone know of any, no matter how >> obscure? > >I guess the folks who've been doing the Hawkwind Covers All project >should be able to help with this? Hawkwind Covers All - boc-l tape project - launched june 1996: (In true Hawkwindish tradition the european and american versions was different - eu was printed on white j-card, while us was coloured.) Vol I: I Am a Clone. I Am Not Alone C-100 / 19 tracks Assault and Battery/Golden Void (ST37) Space is Deep (Human Pot Pie) It's So Easy (the Thing) Spirit of the Age (Sabalon Glitz) Urban Guerilla (Celia Pavlova) The Right Stuff ( Pressurehead) Silver Machine (Thin White Rope) Ejection (Mirrors) Brainstorm (Airport 75) Master of the Universe (Vertigo) Hassan I Sahba (Tibetian Bowlers) Orgone Accumulator (Suffacox) The Right Stuff (Destroy All Monsters) Hawkwind Show (Monoshock) Revolution (Spacemen 3) Standing in the Garden (F/i) Look at Yr Chair (ST37) Final Solution (Pere Ubu) Vol II: Shadows of the Hawk C-90 / 17 tracks Silver Machine (Vardis) Silver Machine (Lambs and Wolves) Angels of Death (the Moor) Hassan I Sahba (Close Edge) Space is Deep (Abaand) Position Unknown/Visions of Beyond Recall (darXtar) Helevetiin, Helevetiin (Nomad Maddog & the Four Horsemen Master of the Universe (Sator Codex) Lost Johnny (Mick Farren & the New Wave) Silver Machine/Hawkwind (Dumpys Rusty Nuts) Orgone Accumulator (Pop Will Eat Itself) Silver Machine (Dumpys Rusty Nuts) Hawkwind (Dumpys Rusty Nuts) Where are They Now? (Spacehead) Brainstorm (Monster Magnet) Vol III: Charged with Cosmic Energy C-100 / 21 tracks Shot Down in the Night/Arioch/Assassins of Allah/Motorhead/Assault and Battery/Golden Void/Neos Skyline/Lost Chronicles (Australian Hawklords) Hurry on Sundown (Magic Mushroom Band) Ejection (Monoshock) Master of the Universe (Dave Watson & Group X) The Hippies and the Hairies-O (Fred Wedlock & Chris Newman) Magnu (Lithium X-Mas) Sonic Attack/Welcome to the Future (Archectural Metaphor) Ejection (Das Ludicroix) Spirit of the Age (Verde) Assault and Battery/Golden Void/the Right Stuff (Dark Sun) Silver Kerching (Sore Throat) Vol IV: Designed to Rob You of Your Mind C-60 / 10 tracks Silver Machine (Alien Sex Frend) the Right Stuff/Assassins of Allah (Sponge) Hurry on Sundown (Finally Balanced) Master of the Universe (Wat Tyler) Master of the Universe (IQ) Creature/Welcome to the Future (Archectural Metaphor) Coded Languages/Waiting for Tomorrow (Mulowind) don't forget doug's double album Assassins of Silence (june 1996): Earth Calling/Born To Go (Temple of Bon Matin) Psychedelic Warlords (Monoshock) Robot (F/i) Ejection (New Bomb Turks) Urban Guerilla (Fuzzface) Hurry On Sundown (the Petals) Quark, Strangeness & Charm (Puff Tube) Hassan I Sahba (Tibetan Bowlers) We Took The Wrong Step Years Ago (Voco Kesh) The Demented Man (Catharsis) The Watcher (ST37) Lord Of Light (Green Machine) Magnu (Lithium X-Mas) You Shouldn't Do That (Liquorball) Death Trap (Slotnick with Bob Lee) Flying Doctor (Gorilla) Motorhead (The Humpers) Orgone Accumulator (Space Dust) Forge of Vulcan (Sabalon Glitz) Time You Left (This World Today) (Brainbombs) Sonic Attack/Master of the Universe (The Mike Gunn) Spirit of the Age (Fly Ashtray) Silver Machine (Cardinal Sin) peace, .joe From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Tue Jun 15 16:31:09 1999 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:31:09 -0500 Subject: HW Covers Message-ID: > Who has the complete tracklist for the 'Hawkwind Covers All' project to > forward to the list? I don't have that list handy, but here is a synopsis of the suggestions people had for what should be on Tape 5 (if we ever get around to making one). Frank P.S. For the sake of brevity, these responses are highly edited. Apologies in advance if I stepped on anyone's e-toes by doing so. :-) +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Just been an bought the new Kula Skaker CD single: > Sound of Drums (Sony KULA21CD) >The title track is OK (better by far than most commercial crap in the charts) >but track 2 is good ol' "Hurry on Sundown". It's actually a rather good >version, a lot better than the rather boppy version that the Magic Mushroom >Band did a few years back. This new version has got lots of harmonica, >accoustic guitar and hammond organ! BOC-l HW Covers Project (Tape 5): The current listing of such a tape would be, per my Tape 5 Covers To Be Archives: Architectural Metaphor- The Golden Void Amorphis- Brain Surgeons- Needle Gun and Hassan I Sabha Born to Go- ? Pseudo Sun- Assault and Battery/Golden Void the original Monster Magnet *demo* of Brainstorm 'Destroy All Monsters' version of the Right Stuff Covered by Born to Go (Marc Power): Lord of the Hornets Hassan I Sabbah Steppenwolf The Right Stuff Orgone Accumulator Uncle Sam's on Mars Master of the Universe Silver Machine Brainstorm Aerospaceage Inferno 101 Theremins (featuring Paul Love) performing "Psonik Attahk", which according to the credits, is "based on 'Sonic Attack' (Hawkwind) 'SpaceAge', the new ST37 CD/LP+7" on Black Widow includes (as mentioned on the list a week or two ago) a cover of "Orgone Accumulator" Kula Shaker, Hurry On Sundown (on Sound of Drums singles) >the original Monster Magnet *demo* of Brainstorm (*) Actually, I think this one's already on one of the first few volumes, under the moniker "Airport 75" (one of the many names they used pre-MM). Terminal Lids Waste Band - "Ejection" (starts as pure heavy rock, ends as pure noise) Dogbreath - "Back on the Streets" (1-1/2 minutes of loud fast punk rock) Alien Sex Fiend - Silver Machine Doctor and the Medics -Silver Machine Kollaa Kestea - Urban Guerilla Pop Will Eat Itself - Orgone Accumulator Hijohkaiden - Silver Machine Friends and Relations - Out of the Shadows Ariel - Do That Cellular Structure - Satellite, Voids End, Heads (They call it Wired), Angels of Death, Lost Chronicles The Nowhere Band - Brainstorm Underground Zero - Silver Machine, Master of Universe (Live with Nik guesting) Led Condom - Silver Machine/Spirit of the Age, live Oct 1992 (video soundtrack from a private gig) Krel - Where are they Now (pre-Spacehead)Live'92, Supporting HW (mix desk) Krel - Infinity (studio) Krel - Opa Loka (studio) Krel - rough demos of about 45/50 mins of other HW trax Krel - new DAT of HW covers iminent. >Kollaa Kestea - Urban Guerilla They record that song 1979 in their debut LP. -- When you choke a smurf, what color does it turn? ============================================================ Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Tue Jun 15 16:43:14 1999 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:43:14 -0500 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga Message-ID: > > Also we are trying to compile a list of Hawkwind songs that have been > > recorded by other artists, does anyone know of any, no matter how > obscure? I sent out a reply to this, and then I realized I also had a not-quite-currently-up-to-date copy on my web site. See http://www.enteract.com/~weil/golden_void/misc/songs_covered.html for that list. Regards, Frank -- There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot. -- Steven Wright ============================================================ Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Jun 15 16:53:33 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:53:33 -0700 Subject: HW mention in Ozzfest review Message-ID: Check it out (the Hawkwind reference is actually on the next page, buried somewhere in the review of Black Sabbath's set): http://www.salonmagazine.com/ent/music/feature/1999/06/15/ozzfest/index.html -Doug ceres at sirius.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jun 15 15:57:23 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:57:23 -0400 Subject: HW Covers Message-ID: Frank's list snipped... >BOC-l HW Covers Project (Tape 5): > >The current listing of such a tape would be, per my Tape 5 Covers To Be >Archives: I also remember that Doug Buckley's group 'Starfire' recorded their own version of the song he cowrote with Brock called Out of the Shadows. This CD came out two or three years ago. Keith H. (FAA) From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jun 15 17:27:26 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:27:26 GMT Subject: HW Covers In-Reply-To: <3767EBA7.18B87F8B@petronet.net> Message-ID: And there's also The Nomads very fine C&W version of 'Motorhead' From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Jun 15 17:30:14 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:30:14 EDT Subject: HW Covers Message-ID: In a message dated 6/15/99 2:27:44 PM, tclark at PETRONET.NET writes: << > > > Also we are trying to compile a list of Hawkwind songs that have been > > > recorded by other artists, does anyone know of any, no matter how > > obscure? > > I guess the folks who've been doing the Hawkwind Covers All project > should be able to help with this? >> you want a list, do ya? well check this one out: HAWKW IND COVERED it's a really well-done and seeimgly xtensive list; i mean, it must be pretty thorough because even DAS LUDICROIX is on it! (grin) "<>" From tclark at PETRONET.NET Wed Jun 16 19:21:01 1999 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:21:01 -0500 Subject: HW Covers Message-ID: > >>DC3, an LA punkish-jam band band fronted by ex-Black Flag guitarist Dez > >>Cadena, a major Hawkwind fan, did PSI Power on their 1988 album, Vida. > > > >And Angels of Death, Same medley. > > they sorta sucked. Yeah, kinda, but they made music strictly uncommercial and weren't really interested in the biz....Dez had another album out also by the name of Vida, which was also the band name. Pretty jammy stuff. Mountain influences,etc and some Hawkwindish stuff....... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: tclark.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 173 bytes Desc: Card for Tom Clark URL: From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 15 19:38:29 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:38:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert In-Reply-To: M Holmes's message of Tue, 15 Jun 1999 19:00:19 +0100 Message-ID: M Holmes writes: > XXX writes: > > > > By the way, do you (or anyone on the list) live in Edinburgh? > > There are a handful of us I believe. > > > > If so has > > > there been any advertising for a concert/event around the 27th August > > > under Edinburgh Castle, with Ken Kesey (Merry Pranksters), Paul McCartney > > > and the original line up of Hawkwind? Ken Kesey appeared at the Queen's Hall last year during the Festival and I'll admit to being a tad disappointed since I was hoping to hear wild stories of the bus tour and instead had a rather gentle new-ageish faerie-tale told to us. But...... > > Not that I've heard of, though it sounds fantastic! Is this something to > do with the Festival or the Fringe? If anyone needs any hel then > consider me a volunteer. > > > we have been approached to do it > > and > > > it is supposed to be a large confirmed event. If this is so it should > > have > > > been publicised by now. Can anyone tell us if they have seen any > > > advertising? > > I'll look into it, but more clues, like the name of the venue or who > you've been dealing with would help. Under the castle could be the Ross Theatre in the Gardens (which would be terrific!) or the performance area at the bottom of the Mound (limited viewing and no stage area) or a venue in the Grassmarket. The latter two would suggest a Fringe venue so we could check the Fringe Festival office to see if they know anything. The Ross Theatre is being used and listed as a Festival venue for the Fireworks on 4th September but there are often performances there at other times. I don't see anything in the official Festival programme but can check at the Festival office next time I get a chance. There's a web site at www.edinburghfestivals.co.uk but I can't try it from here so I've no idea what's on it! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From flossbac at NLCI.COM Tue Jun 15 19:36:07 1999 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 18:36:07 -0500 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga Message-ID: > >> Also we are trying to compile a list of Hawkwind songs that have been > >> recorded by other artists, does anyone know of any, no matter how > >obscure? There is "Silver Machine" by Thin White Rope. John Majka flossbac at nlci.com From makmorn at QIS.NET Tue Jun 15 21:42:19 1999 From: makmorn at QIS.NET (Daniel Ligon) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:42:19 -0400 Subject: Imaginos? In-Reply-To: <6D986111E966D211A65E00A0C96E961108FB70@C2>; from Joseph Brooks on Tue, Jun 15, 1999 at 07:28:44AM -0700 Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 15, 1999 at 07:28:44AM -0700, Joseph Brooks wrote: > Curious what/when and in what context is the quote below from? Could it be > that tBS are gonna continue the saga? The quote is from an interview with Albert. It's on the web at: http://www.geocities.com/~tyranny1/albert.html -- Daniel Ligon makmorn at qis.net We are in the hands of infinite power and infinite sadism. -- _Inferno_ From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Wed Jun 16 01:07:46 1999 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff and Pam Wheaton) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:07:46 -0600 Subject: Off: Tech stuff Message-ID: Could anyone please tell me about doing tape to cd transfers? I seem to not be able to find it in my book, and being still at the kindygarden level on my new toy, I need some tips, please!! Pam From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Wed Jun 16 05:34:51 1999 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 05:34:51 EDT Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga Message-ID: OK this isnt funny !!! "Joe" just posted a track list for a tape series called "Hawkwind covers all" , and a Cd called Assassins of silence........Look,..I've never heard of any of these ...WHERE CAN I GET HOLD OF THEM ???? There are titles here I've never heard of also...I'm assuming that they're just titles of numbers written by these bands which include samples of or bits of versions of HW numbers? If not where are the original HW versions available ?? Please someone help. Yours in total sublime HW induced Chaos and confusion (As usual!!) AL From SHLL at NOVO.DK Wed Jun 16 05:45:35 1999 From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:45:35 +0200 Subject: HW:Covers Message-ID: I think Kris and Dave should Check out Frank Weil's page for the list. The DOOM metal band Count Raven (RIP), did a cover of Levitation on a rehearsal tape that I have. Any more details on Cornwall August 11th? scott From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed Jun 16 08:27:49 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:27:49 -0400 Subject: Weird 3-CD Compilation with BOC on it... Message-ID: At my local CD haunt, I stumbled across a 3-CD set called "Giants of Rock" (maybe it was "Rock Giants" or "Guitar Giants" - I forget in my advancing years, but "Giants" was definitely in there). The first track on CD 1 is BOC's "Demon's Kiss" . . . About half-way through CD 3 is BOC's "The Horsemen Arrive" . . . So, all of you who can't find "Bad Channels", maybe you should seek out this compilation. Who would of thought that these 2 BOC offerings would be on multi-CD compilation... John From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jun 16 04:27:59 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:27:59 +0100 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga In-Reply-To: <199906151801.TAA13042@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <199906151801.TAA13042 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes > >And of course James Last's "Silver Machine". > >FoFP Pop Will Eat Itself did a very passable "Orgone Accumulator" the track list of The Covers tapes should provide about 100 entries, no? two of my four were in my car when it got stolen, so I'll have to pass on this one. -- Jon From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Jun 16 08:48:07 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:48:07 -0400 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga Message-ID: >OK this isnt funny !!! "Joe" just posted a track list for a tape series >called "Hawkwind covers all" , and a Cd called Assassins of >silence........Look,..I've never heard of any of these ...WHERE CAN I GET >HOLD OF THEM ???? > There are titles here I've never heard of also...I'm assuming that they're >just titles of numbers written by these bands which include samples of or >bits of versions of HW numbers? If not where are the original HW versions >available ?? HCA was a tape project on here a few years back (and I never got around to resending cash to get my replacements for the ones that were stolen, though at the time I believe the offer was there for anyone else who wanted the tapes (it's about $15 IIRC)). Most of the songs are cover of hawkwind tunes, but a few are just songs that are hawkwind-related (though not by the band itself). For example, "The Hippies and the Hairys-O" (a parody of "Raggle-Taggle Gypsies") which mentions Hawkwind in one line.... and another song titled "Hawkwind" by Dumpy's Rusty Nuts.... ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Jun 16 08:48:06 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:48:06 -0400 Subject: Diamond Rio MP3 player.... Message-ID: Local Best Buy is selling them for $119.... Anyone have one of these? Are they all they claim to be? I use mp3 files regularly on my computer, and (among other things) would love to be able to listen to stuff like my ICU cd-rom and stuff on trips... are they available for less anywhere else? ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Wed Jun 16 05:33:32 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 09:33:32 +0000 Subject: Weird 3-CD Compilation with BOC on it... Message-ID: > At my local CD haunt, I stumbled across a 3-CD set called "Giants of > Rock" > (maybe it was "Rock Giants" or "Guitar Giants" - I forget in my > advancing > years, but "Giants" was definitely in there). > > The first track on CD 1 is BOC's "Demon's Kiss" . . . > > About half-way through CD 3 is BOC's "The Horsemen Arrive" . . . > > Who would of thought that these 2 BOC offerings would be on multi-CD > compilation... > > > John The rights to these two songs must have been cheaper than those in the BOC back catalog proper, huh? -- Nick From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jun 16 09:55:24 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:55:24 +0100 Subject: Fwd: Re: BOC-L Digest - 14 Jun 1999 to 15 Jun 1999 Message-ID: >Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:46:28 +0100 >To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >From: Mark P Lee >Subject: Re: BOC-L Digest - 14 Jun 1999 to 15 Jun 1999 > >Yo gang, > >Does anybody on-list have a contact via which it is possible >to discuss bookings for Hawkwind !! > >I'll leave that question floating to raise a few eyebrows as I've >had no luck at all with my attemptd to date :( > >Mark ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From abrevard at SHL.COM Wed Jun 16 10:10:47 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:10:47 -0700 Subject: BOC: Imaginos Message-ID: >Curious what/when and in what context is the quote below from? Could it be >that tBS are gonna continue the saga? > > The entire story of Imaginos has not been told and only time will > tell if the riddle will begin. > > -- Albert Doubtful. You would need a bucket full of money to do it. Al may have the desire but where does the money come from? If I remember the original product sucked a $100 grand from his wallet. It would be nice to get the complete Imaginos saga in one sitting (2-3 cds?) but I don't think we will see it any time soon. Of course one of us could hit the lottery and seed the money.... L8er Ghost in the Ruins NP: Kiss - Music From The Elder Q: Carl, you be jamming? What instrument(s)? Congrads!!!!!! From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 16 10:17:56 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:17:56 +0100 Subject: FAO Kris re HW: Edinburgh Concert In-Reply-To: XXX's message of Tue, 15 Jun 1999 15:12:46 +0100 Message-ID: XXX writes: > > By the way, do you (or anyone on the list) live in Edinburgh? If so has > > there been any advertising for a concert/event around the 27th August > > under Edinburgh Castle, with Ken Kesey (Merry Pranksters), Paul McCartney > > and the original line up of Hawkwind? we have been approached to do it > and > > it is supposed to be a large confirmed event. If this is so it should > have > > been publicised by now. Can anyone tell us if they have seen any > > advertising? > > Thanks > > Kris I've done a little asking around about this. Ken Kesey was at last years Edinburgh Festival at the invite of a theatre company called FLUX. This year FLUX have a venue in the Grassmarket and also the Ross Bandstand in Princes Street Gardens. They tend towards the more underground sort of bands and so it seems reasonably likely that it may be FLUX who have been in touch with you. As far as advertising goes, I doubt that any of the Festival or Fringe stuff is out yet. What happens is that the Fringe release a programme booklet which simply lists the events over the whole month with a one line review for each. The Festival have their own booklet. Some of the larger venues and companies also release their own programme. The Gilded Ballon Theatre, The Assembly Rooms, the Pleasance, and FLUX are amongst these. During the month itself there are Daily Diary sheets which list all events on that day. Otherwise publicity amounts to people flyposting and dropping ads around the pubs, clubs and cafes. Just about everywhere gets a mountain of paper each day as volunteers and folks working for the venues, as well as the actors and strolling players themselves leaflet the entire centre of Edinburgh. The best publicity is reckoned to be a good review in The Scotsman, The Glasgow Herald, or the Grauniad. I guess this probably means buttering up reviewers with free tickets or something. I do drink with the SF reviewer for The Scotsman and I'm sure having heard me witter about Hawkwind for years, he could be persuaded along. Better still, offer him an interview. Otherwise I'd guess that having volunteers do leafletting would be a sound plan. Since we know Hawkwind fans in both Edinburgh and Glasgow, volunteers shouldn't be a problem. The upshot is that as yet there hasn't been any publicity, not would it really be expected until next month. The word is that FLUX are very reliable though. Having Hawkwind play the Ross Bandstand would be truly amazing. Having a reunion with ex-hawks and the Ken & Babs duo would be outstanding. Anyone got any old "Can You Pass The Acid Test?" posters? If you can give me more details, I could try to find out more. Give me a call on 0131-668-3287 if you like. Cheers Mike (FoFP) From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Wed Jun 16 10:31:15 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:31:15 -0700 Subject: Imaginos? Message-ID: Great.. On my way.. thanks! JB > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Ligon [mailto:makmorn at QIS.NET] > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 6:42 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: Imaginos? > > > On Tue, Jun 15, 1999 at 07:28:44AM -0700, Joseph Brooks wrote: > > Curious what/when and in what context is the quote below > from? Could it be > > that tBS are gonna continue the saga? > > The quote is from an interview with Albert. It's on the web at: > http://www.geocities.com/~tyranny1/albert.html -- Daniel Ligon makmorn at qis.net We are in the hands of infinite power and infinite sadism. -- _Inferno_ From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Wed Jun 16 10:32:54 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:32:54 -0700 Subject: Imaginos? Message-ID: Ack, that link appears to be dead.. anyone got another? JB > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel Ligon [mailto:makmorn at QIS.NET] > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 6:42 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: Imaginos? > > > On Tue, Jun 15, 1999 at 07:28:44AM -0700, Joseph Brooks wrote: > > Curious what/when and in what context is the quote below > from? Could it be > > that tBS are gonna continue the saga? > > The quote is from an interview with Albert. It's on the web at: > > http://www.geocities.com/~tyranny1/albert.html > > > -- > Daniel Ligon makmorn at qis.net > > We are in the hands of infinite power and infinite sadism. > -- _Inferno_ > From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Wed Jun 16 10:41:18 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:41:18 -0700 Subject: Tech stuff Message-ID: I just hooked a tape deck up to my sound card (output of tape into Aux input of your audio card - you will most likely need a trip to Radio Shack for adapters) then I use a program called CoolEdit to record the tape into a wave file which can then be burnt to CD. It works great.. You can use the program to eliminate things like tape hiss and 60 cycle hum, even boost the bass or whatever before recording. I've gotten very good at cleaning up tapes. JB > -----Original Message----- > From: Cliff and Pam Wheaton [mailto:cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM] > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 10:08 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Off: Tech stuff > > > Could anyone please tell me about doing tape to cd transfers? > I seem to > not be able to find it in my book, and being still at the kindygarden > level on my new toy, I need some tips, please!! > Pam > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 16 12:48:32 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:48:32 +0100 Subject: Tech stuff In-Reply-To: Joseph Brooks's message of Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:41:18 -0700 Message-ID: Joseph Brooks writes: > I just hooked a tape deck up to my sound card (output of tape into Aux input > of your audio card - you will most likely need a trip to Radio Shack for > adapters) then I use a program called CoolEdit to record the tape into a > wave file which can then be burnt to CD. It works great.. You can use the > program to eliminate things like tape hiss and 60 cycle hum, even boost the > bass or whatever before recording. I've gotten very good at cleaning up > tapes. I'd be interested in tips on using Cooledit for doing cleaning up of tapes and any other useful tricks for analog to CD processing. One weird bug I seem to have found is that occasionally I find that one second of music is mysteriously repeated 3 or four times and I have to redo the CD. I think it's getting introduced during the actual recording process. My usual postprocessing is to centre the wave, do a noise reduction using a sample from a piece of the tape that's blank, and then normalising the wave. > JB FoFP From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Wed Jun 16 13:28:36 1999 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 19:28:36 +0200 Subject: HW Covers Message-ID: Alien Sex Fiend covered "Silver machine" on their "Bun-ho" 12" some years ago. Dutch group Aap did a fine version of "Seeing it as you really are" on the "Aap?" tape in ?96. And I?ve got a Smell of Incense live tape from last year with a cover of "The Black Corridor/ Space is deep". Andreas From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 16 13:55:20 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 18:55:20 +0100 Subject: FAO Kris re HW: Edinburgh Concert In-Reply-To: M Holmes's message of Wed, 16 Jun 1999 15:17:56 +0100 Message-ID: M Holmes writes: > XXX writes: > > > > By the way, do you (or anyone on the list) live in Edinburgh? If so has > > > there been any advertising for a concert/event around the 27th August > > > under Edinburgh Castle, with Ken Kesey (Merry Pranksters), Paul McCartney > > > and the original line up of Hawkwind? we have been approached to do it > > and > > > it is supposed to be a large confirmed event. If this is so it should > > have > > > been publicised by now. Can anyone tell us if they have seen any > > > advertising? > > > > Thanks > > > > Kris > > I've done a little asking around about this. Ken Kesey was at last years > Edinburgh Festival at the invite of a theatre company called FLUX. This > year FLUX have a venue in the Grassmarket and also the Ross Bandstand > in Princes Street Gardens. They tend towards the more underground sort > of bands and so it seems reasonably likely that it may be FLUX who have > been in touch with you. > > As far as advertising goes, I doubt that any of the Festival or Fringe > stuff is out yet. What happens is that the Fringe release a programme Interesting. Didn't know about FLUX but I'll just add a note to say that I went down to the Fringe Office on the High Street and although they are not yet open for bookings (that'll happen in July) they do have the Fringe Programme available so I'll list what's there: The Ross Bandstand (actually Ross Theatre) is listed twice: Music: Flux Festival/Orbital - Flux Festival Aug 13 8pm - midnight Talks and Events: Festival Revue - Festival Revue Aug 7 - 30 12noon - midnight. Description of venue: Edinburgh's premier performance preview centre with the Castle as backdrop and Princes Street to the fore. Performances shows on 11 sqm daylight screens, one can be seen from Princes Street. World-wide transmission on the Internet, cable TV and satellite-linked to Covent Garden screen. On the relevant pages the info is as follows: FLUX FESTIVAL Orbital launch the biggest Flux Festival yet; bigger gigs, more venues.... 'Flux continue to showcase the best and the brave' Time Out 'Excited? You should be' The Scotsman Artists mentioned appearing at the Queens Hall are The Fall, Ivor Cutler, and Marc Almond. No mention of anyone else although "... and more" is listed in the advert. Tickets: 0870 907 0999 0131 220 4349 (0131 668 2019 is the Queen's Hall number) FESTIVAL REVUE "Become part of the largest live arts broadcast party in the world. Preview hundreds of live performances appearing at this year's Festival as well as video presentations covering every conceivable art form. Food, drink, and performances all day every day." Aug 7-30 12.00 noon - midnight. Free. Adverts are written by the companies themselves. At a guess I'd say that FLUX have possibly booked the 27th at the Ross Bandstand for a live show. Orbital are confirmed for the 11th so they may have others in mind as well. But that's only a guess. > really be expected until next month. The word is that FLUX are very > reliable though. > > Having Hawkwind play the Ross Bandstand would be truly amazing. Having a > reunion with ex-hawks and the Ken & Babs duo would be outstanding. Interestingly the Firework Show used to be at the end of the 2nd week of the Festival (orchestra plays on the Ross Stage while whizzbangs fly around dramatically all over the place) but it's been moved to the final week this year. A live Hawkwind show would certainly make for a spectacular event to fill the space. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Jun 16 14:07:10 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:07:10 -0700 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 08:48:07 -0400, "Andrew A. Apold" wrote: >from Al Ogilvy : >>OK this isnt funny !!! "Joe" just posted a track list for a tape series >>called "Hawkwind covers all" , and a Cd called Assassins of >>silence........Look,..I've never heard of any of these ...WHERE CAN I GET >>HOLD OF THEM ???? If you're interested in the tribute CD, drop me a private Email :^). >> There are titles here I've never heard of also...I'm assuming that they're >>just titles of numbers written by these bands which include samples of or >>bits of versions of HW numbers? If not where are the original HW versions >>available ?? > >Most of the songs are cover of hawkwind tunes, but a few are just songs >that are hawkwind-related (though not by the band itself). For example, >"The Hippies and the Hairys-O" (a parody of "Raggle-Taggle Gypsies") >which mentions Hawkwind in one line.... and another song titled >"Hawkwind" by Dumpy's Rusty Nuts.... And a few of the unrecognized titles are songs that are quite obviously inspired by parts of Hawkwind songs - Pere Ubu's "Final Solution" (closing portion lifted from "Space Is Deep") and ST37's "Look At Your Chair" (compare with "Valium Ten"). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jun 16 14:36:58 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 14:36:58 EDT Subject: hawkcover tracklists, etc. Message-ID: this fellow tracklists the weird tapes, some video, a clutch of audience tapes, some other hawk-related stuff, and HAWKCOVERS ALL vol. #1-4 http://www.rpg.net/ehp/imrryr/hw.html "<>" From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Wed Jun 16 15:30:41 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 20:30:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga Message-ID: Hi Hawklords etal. Hawkwind Covers All project - was this something put together by you worthy gentleman and how can I get hold of a copy. Thanks for the tip about PWEI's Orgone Accumulator cover, I didn't know about it because it was the b'side and never release ( or so I believe) in album format. > >Hawkwind Covers All - boc-l tape project - launched june 1996: > >(In true Hawkwindish tradition the european and american versions was >different - eu was printed on white j-card, while us was coloured.) > > >Vol I: I Am a Clone. I Am Not Alone C-100 / 19 tracks > >Assault and Battery/Golden Void (ST37) >Space is Deep (Human Pot Pie) >It's So Easy (the Thing) >Spirit of the Age (Sabalon Glitz) >Urban Guerilla (Celia Pavlova) >The Right Stuff ( Pressurehead) >Silver Machine (Thin White Rope) >Ejection (Mirrors) >Brainstorm (Airport 75) >Master of the Universe (Vertigo) >Hassan I Sahba (Tibetian Bowlers) >Orgone Accumulator (Suffacox) >The Right Stuff (Destroy All Monsters) >Hawkwind Show (Monoshock) >Revolution (Spacemen 3) >Standing in the Garden (F/i) >Look at Yr Chair (ST37) >Final Solution (Pere Ubu) > > >Vol II: Shadows of the Hawk C-90 / 17 tracks > >Silver Machine (Vardis) >Silver Machine (Lambs and Wolves) >Angels of Death (the Moor) >Hassan I Sahba (Close Edge) >Space is Deep (Abaand) >Position Unknown/Visions of Beyond Recall (darXtar) >Helevetiin, Helevetiin (Nomad Maddog & the Four Horsemen >Master of the Universe (Sator Codex) >Lost Johnny (Mick Farren & the New Wave) >Silver Machine/Hawkwind (Dumpys Rusty Nuts) >Orgone Accumulator (Pop Will Eat Itself) >Silver Machine (Dumpys Rusty Nuts) >Hawkwind (Dumpys Rusty Nuts) >Where are They Now? (Spacehead) >Brainstorm (Monster Magnet) > > >Vol III: Charged with Cosmic Energy C-100 / 21 tracks > >Shot Down in the Night/Arioch/Assassins of Allah/Motorhead/Assault and >Battery/Golden Void/Neos Skyline/Lost Chronicles (Australian Hawklords) >Hurry on Sundown (Magic Mushroom Band) >Ejection (Monoshock) >Master of the Universe (Dave Watson & Group X) >The Hippies and the Hairies-O (Fred Wedlock & Chris Newman) >Magnu (Lithium X-Mas) >Sonic Attack/Welcome to the Future (Archectural Metaphor) >Ejection (Das Ludicroix) >Spirit of the Age (Verde) >Assault and Battery/Golden Void/the Right Stuff (Dark Sun) >Silver Kerching (Sore Throat) > > >Vol IV: Designed to Rob You of Your Mind C-60 / 10 tracks > >Silver Machine (Alien Sex Frend) >the Right Stuff/Assassins of Allah (Sponge) >Hurry on Sundown (Finally Balanced) >Master of the Universe (Wat Tyler) >Master of the Universe (IQ) >Creature/Welcome to the Future (Archectural Metaphor) >Coded Languages/Waiting for Tomorrow (Mulowind) > > >don't forget doug's double album Assassins of Silence (june 1996): > >Earth Calling/Born To Go (Temple of Bon Matin) >Psychedelic Warlords (Monoshock) >Robot (F/i) >Ejection (New Bomb Turks) >Urban Guerilla (Fuzzface) >Hurry On Sundown (the Petals) >Quark, Strangeness & Charm (Puff Tube) >Hassan I Sahba (Tibetan Bowlers) >We Took The Wrong Step Years Ago (Voco Kesh) >The Demented Man (Catharsis) >The Watcher (ST37) >Lord Of Light (Green Machine) >Magnu (Lithium X-Mas) >You Shouldn't Do That (Liquorball) >Death Trap (Slotnick with Bob Lee) >Flying Doctor (Gorilla) >Motorhead (The Humpers) >Orgone Accumulator (Space Dust) >Forge of Vulcan (Sabalon Glitz) >Time You Left (This World Today) (Brainbombs) >Sonic Attack/Master of the Universe (The Mike Gunn) >Spirit of the Age (Fly Ashtray) >Silver Machine (Cardinal Sin) > > >peace, >.joe From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Jun 16 19:33:04 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 00:33:04 +0100 Subject: HW Covers In-Reply-To: <3766c45c.19803642@smtp.freeserve.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, andrew wrote: > And there's also The Nomads very fine C&W version of 'Motorhead' It pains me to mention it, but there is also a version of this track by The Corduroys. Mmm yes. Yours, Jon From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Jun 16 20:05:55 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:05:55 +0100 Subject: HW: Covers All Questions In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19990615220840.1057344e@m1.171.telia.com> Message-ID: Dear All, two questions that list of covers sparked in my mind: firstly, is Mulowind, as it sounds, an Alman Mulo variation with added HW members? When was it and what did it do? Secondly, on what albums are all these ST37 HW covers, and are they still obtainable? In fact, does anyone know where I might find a decent ST37 discography? Many thanks, yours, Jon ObColumbo: one more thing, those Underground Zero live numbers with Nik: are they legitimate releases, and if so when were they recorded and on what are they released? All grist to my own personal history file you see... From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Jun 16 20:44:41 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 17:44:41 -0700 Subject: HW: Covers All Questions Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:05:55 +0100, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > Dear All, > two questions that list of covers sparked in my mind: > Secondly, on what albums are all >these ST37 HW covers, and are they still obtainable? In fact, does anyone >know where I might find a decent ST37 discography? ST37's only "officially" released Hawkwind covers are: "The Watcher" on the 'Assassins of Silence' tribute CD/double LP (Ceres) "Orgone Accumulator" on 'Spaceage' (Black Widow) ST37's cassettes are: 'Billygoat Nothinghead' C30 (SPASMS) 'Feature Silica Vicarious' C45 (SPASMS) 'From Space With Love' C45 (SPASMS) 'Dimensions Give Quiet (Imaginary Soundtracks)' C45 (SPASMS) 'John Deere Isolation Tank' C90 (Blue circle) ST37's singles are: "Look At Your Chair"/"Pumpkin Face" 7" (OverAndOut) "Taboo Down Under"/"(Don't Need No) Hoodoo Woman" 7" (Noiseville UK) "Crab Nebula"/"The Gypsy's Kiss" 7" (Prospective/Susstones) ST37's albums are: 'The Invisible College' CD (OverAndOut) 'Glare' dbl-LP (Electric Jug/Helter Skelter, Italy) 'Derobe' split LP w/Voco Kesh (RRR) 'Spaceage' CD/LP+7" (Black Widow, Italy) 'Secret Society' LP (Lost) They've also appeared on numerous compilations and tributes (including those to David Bowie and Brian Eno) ... and they have a fifth album in the can that's probably their best yet (I've heard the final mix already)! Hopefully their soundtrack recording for Fritz Lang's 'Metropolis' will also be released sometime soon. The other Hawkwind covers I've heard by them ("Death Trap", "Assault & Battery"/"Golden Void" and an alternate version "The Watcher" with an extended acoustic guitar introduction) were put on the copy of 'Dimensions Give Quiet' that I ordered from the band - each copy of that cassette (an edition of 37 copies, not sure if it's sold out) has a unique set of bonus tracks on it - those were mine! The band, as well as their Blue Circle cassette label (trivia question: to what does the label name refer?) can be contacted at P.O. Box 4962 / Austin, TX 78765. It looks like this summer, instead of driving up to Ohio for Strange Daze, they're flying out to San Francisco for several Bay Area shows during the last week of July - I'll be at all of them! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jun 16 21:06:04 1999 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 21:06:04 -0400 Subject: tBS:Roter Rides Again Message-ID: The David Roter Method will be playing this Saturday at Arlene Grocery (free - no cover) at 9 PM in New York City. This show features the line up of me, Jack Rigg, Adny Schernoff and Tommy Mandel. We're doing almost all new material (it's a live dry run for some songs he's recording this summer). NYC fans who can make it are guaranteed and interesting time. Al From tclark at PETRONET.NET Thu Jun 17 22:46:35 1999 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 21:46:35 -0500 Subject: Wonderwall Message-ID: Yes, I'm one of those people who actually subscribe to the Rolling Stone magazine.....but hey....this bit appeared there recently, and seems sufficiently trippy enough to contribute to this list... Seems a movie has been resurrected from the sixties with some unreleased George Harrison music available at the web site to listen to... http://www.wonderwallfilm.co.uk/music.html Perhaps this belongs to a Beatles Discussion List, but oh well..............did they not inspire us all?.... -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: tclark.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 173 bytes Desc: Card for Tom Clark URL: From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Jun 17 02:02:26 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 02:02:26 EDT Subject: HW: "Unofficial" Covers Message-ID: In a message dated 99-06-16 14:14:22 EDT, you write: << And a few of the unrecognized titles are songs that are quite obviously inspired by parts of Hawkwind songs - Pere Ubu's "Final Solution" (closing portion lifted from "Space Is Deep") and ST37's "Look At Your Chair" (compare with "Valium Ten"). -Doug ceres at sirius.com >> ----Speaking of blatant HW quotes/references but not covers per se (see above and also Spacemen 3's "Revolution" comes to mind)--I'm listening to an album now called "Maya" by a Brit. group called Strobe and the song "Rebirth" lifts the Born to Go riff and another really obvious Hawkriff circa '72 that I can't quite put my finger on. As for the CD in general--kinda "armchair" space-rock, certainly not aggressively spacey/freaky, at least going on a few cursory listens... Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Jun 17 02:12:15 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 02:12:15 EDT Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga Message-ID: In a message dated 99-06-16 17:51:56 EDT, you write: << Hi Hawklords etal. Thanks for the tip about PWEI's Orgone Accumulator cover, I didn't know about it because it was the b'side and never release ( or so I believe) in album format. >> ---Actually, it's on the Now for a Feast CD, released by Rough Trade in the US. Not sure if that's a diff. version... Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Jun 17 02:13:20 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 02:13:20 EDT Subject: HW Covers Message-ID: In a message dated 99-06-16 19:33:28 EDT, you write: << On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, andrew wrote: > And there's also The Nomads very fine C&W version of 'Motorhead' It pains me to mention it, but there is also a version of this track by The Corduroys. Mmm yes. Yours, Jon >> ---And whatever happened to Lawnmower Deth's "Motorhead"? I don't recall it being on either the Covers All tapes or Doug's album... Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Jun 17 02:20:07 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 02:20:07 EDT Subject: HW/OFF: ST-37 Chat Message-ID: In a message dated 99-06-16 20:06:06 EDT, you write: << Secondly, on what albums are all these ST37 HW covers >> ---The only ST-37 album I own so far is the "Space-age" CD, which is excellent, if you don't mind it a bit on the fuzzy/raw side. Interesting, because as well as "Orgone", there are also covers of: Amon Duul II--Deutsch Nepal (are they reciting the actual German or is it just grumbling??) Chrome--March of the Chrome Police (I think I can play this on the radio as the lyrics are so muddy I don't think the censors could catch the cuss-words.) Can--"Vitamin C" (much diff. than the orig., a good summation of the early '70s Can vibe in general) ...and the last one is a song called "No Talk in the '80s", orig. done by...The Hates? I think that's the name.. anyway, prob. my least faves of the covers are the HW and the Hates. The Kraut and Chrome covers are very good... ...oh, and they have some awesome originals, too... :) Chuck From sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI Thu Jun 17 02:41:25 1999 From: sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI (Santeri Laakso) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 09:41:25 +0300 Subject: Nik Turner comes to Finland! Message-ID: Hi! I think I've already mentioned this, but Nik Turner will play with Finnish Five Fifteen at Ruisrock festival in Turku, Finland, on the 2nd of July. I bet Monster Magnet would have played Brainstorm with him too, but I'm afraid they have cancelled... (Does anyone know what's happened?). On the 3rd of July, Nik will play at Never Trust a Hippie summerclub at Tavastia club, Helsinki. There will be a long set of HW and ICU songs with Finnish Space Rockers Dark Sun, and he'll also be guesting with 5.15. Onko listalla muuten paljon suomalaisia? All Peace to You, Galactic Brothers and Sisters! Santtu From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Thu Jun 17 06:11:45 1999 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:11:45 +0100 Subject: HW: Covers All Questions Message-ID: Regarding Hawkwind covers, Krel recorded about 90 minutes of various HW trax, at various stages during the early 90's, (and some rather damned good versions too) and the Krel version of "Where Are They Now", from the mixing desk tape of their support slot at Reading on the final night of the '92 Teepee tour is superb - certainly meatier than the Spacehead version. (not forgetting that Mr. Dibs is doing bass and vocals on both) No-one yet has mentioned Kula Shaker's "Hurry on Sundown" (Hari on Sundown!) Guy T From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jun 17 07:36:23 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 12:36:23 +0100 Subject: HW: Covers All Questions In-Reply-To: Thomas Guy's message of Thu, 17 Jun 1999 11:11:45 +0100 Message-ID: Thomas Guy writes: > Regarding Hawkwind covers, Krel recorded about 90 minutes of various HW > trax, at various stages during the early 90's, (and some rather damned good > versions too) and the Krel version of "Where Are They Now", from the mixing > desk tape of their support slot at Reading on the final night of the '92 > Teepee tour is superb - certainly meatier than the Spacehead version. (not > forgetting that Mr. Dibs is doing bass and vocals on both) I'd really like to hear that. Can you pack it into a wav file and mail it? Or could we do an old fashioned tape swap? > No-one yet has mentioned Kula Shaker's "Hurry on Sundown" (Hari on Sundown!) I have a CD of that somewhere... FoFP From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jun 17 09:04:03 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 14:04:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Covers All Questions In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990616174441.008a74c0@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: > On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 01:05:55 +0100, Jonathan Jarrett > > Secondly, on what albums are all > >these ST37 HW covers, and are they still obtainable? In fact, does anyone > >know where I might find a decent ST37 discography? Many thanks for that, Doug. I only have 'Spaceage' but I love it and will definitely have to get some more! Yours, Jon From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Jun 17 08:16:25 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:16:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Covers All Questions In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990616174441.008a74c0@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: At 17:44 16/06/99 -0700, you wrote: > >The band, as well as their Blue Circle cassette label (trivia question: to >what does the label name refer?) > Probably unconnected, but Blue Circle is a brand of cement/concrete... ChrisW From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Jun 17 08:22:34 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:22:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Covers All Questions In-Reply-To: <199906171136.MAA11303@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 12:36 17/06/99 +0100, you wrote: > >> No-one yet has mentioned Kula Shaker's "Hurry on Sundown" (Hari on Sundown!) > >I have a CD of that somewhere... > >FoFP > Ik ook! (As we used to say in Belgium) ChrisW From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Thu Jun 17 09:57:18 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Gekke Henkie) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:57:18 +0200 Subject: (Fwd) Re: HW: Covers All Questions Message-ID: Op 17 Jun 99, om 13:22, Chris Warburton schreef: > >I have a CD of that somewhere... > > > > Ik ook! (As we used to say in Belgium) Ik niet :-( (As we say in the Netherlands) --BArt From micci at SCI.FI Thu Jun 17 11:17:32 1999 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 18:17:32 +0300 Subject: Nik Turner comes to Finland! Message-ID: Hi all! >Onko listalla muuten paljon suomalaisia? Guess who?! Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Thu Jun 17 12:32:17 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:32:17 +0100 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Festival Message-ID: Saturday 28 August, 8pm, Princes Street Gardens, ?12.50 / ?10.00 Ken Kesey returns to the Flux Festival with the Magic Bus, all of the original pranksters and a line-up of special guests (to be announced). The author of 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest' Kesey was the founding figure of the American counter culture between the Beat Generation and the Hippie movement. His 60's 'Acid Test' launched The Grateful Dead, the Acid explosion and the Summer of Love. Pranksterism turned Woodstock into a free festival and more recently was the inspiration for the Rave Generation. Don't miss this unique, open air, psychadelic trip. In association with the Edinburgh International Book Festival Fri 13 ORBITALPrinces Street Gardens8pm?12.50/?10 Sat 14IVOR CUTLERQueen's Hall3pm?11 Sun 15DAVID THOMAS AND THE PALE ORCHESTRA featuring Jackie Leven & Linda ThompsonQueen's Hall8pm?11 Fri 20JOHN CALEQueen's Hall8pm?12.50 Sat 21JOHN CALEQueen's Hall8pm ?12.50 Sun 22THE FALLQueen's Hall8pm?10 Thu 26THE LODGER Live score by The Divine Comedy's JobyTalbot Lumiere Cinema7:30pm 10pm?11.50 Fri 27 NICK CAVEPrinces Street Gardens8pm?12.50/?10 Fri 27MARC ALMONDQueen's Hall10:45pm?12.50 Sat 28MARC ALMONDQueen's Hall10:45pm?12.50 Sun 29MARC ALMONDQueen's Hall10:45pm?12.50 Mon 30MARC ALMONDQueen's Hall11:15pm?12.50 Fri 28KEN KESEY & THE MAGIC BUS plus very special guestsPrinces Street Gardens8pm Mon 30TINDERSTICKSQueen's Hall8pm?11.50 -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com "Never Judge A Man (Until You're Standing In His Shoes)" From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jun 17 12:55:32 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:55:32 +0100 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Festival Message-ID: Saturday 28 August, 8pm, Princes Street Gardens, ?12.50 / ?10.00 Ken Kesey returns to the Flux Festival with the Magic Bus, all of the original pranksters and a line-up of special guests (to be announced). So are HW the special guests then? From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Jun 17 13:02:32 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 13:02:32 EDT Subject: (Fwd) Re: HW: Covers All Questions Message-ID: In a message dated 6/17/99 9:56:46 AM, bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL writes: <<> > Ik ook! (As we used to say in Belgium) Ik niet :-( (As we say in the Netherlands) >> d'oh! (as homer simpson says on TV) ^_~ "<>" From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jun 17 13:36:35 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 18:36:35 +0100 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Festival In-Reply-To: Nick Lee's message of Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:55:32 +0100 Message-ID: Nick Lee writes: > Saturday 28 August, 8pm, Princes Street Gardens, ?12.50 / ?10.00 > Ken Kesey returns to the Flux Festival with the Magic Bus, all of the > original pranksters and a line-up of special guests (to be announced). > > So are HW the special guests then? Well if it needs a write-in campaign to make sure... FoFP From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jun 17 11:13:34 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:13:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Covers All Questions Message-ID: The only reference to Blue Circle I can think of is bizarrely Blue Circle cement!!? if true what's all that about then. >The band, as well as their Blue Circle cassette label (trivia question: to >what does the label name refer?) can be contacted at P.O. Box 4962 / > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Jun 17 17:12:06 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 17:12:06 -0400 Subject: Storabost? Message-ID: This is the listing for this artist: Artist: Storabrost Similar Artists: ? Hawkwind runned over by a Camping Caravan driven by the Velvet Underground ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Fri Jun 18 09:16:18 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:16:18 -0500 Subject: HW: Dawn of Hawkwind Message-ID: Well, I got my Dawn of Hawkwind "BOOK" The CD is in a zip-lock bag glued to the inside back page. See my site a little later to see the scan. Pretty cool. Wonder if after the books sell out if it will be issued in a jewel case? 2 Versions????? Later, Hawkman From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jun 18 10:14:23 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:14:23 -0400 Subject: HW: Website updates... Message-ID: Hi Folks... Just noticed that Kris has the Mission Control site back up. Also, went by www.strange-trips.com and saw that Jim has the new info about the lineup for Strange Daze '99, and how to order advance tix. Despite HW not being on the bill (I assume this is a final decision?), it looks great!! Nik & Helios will be cool to have there, Tribe Of Cro will be a real treat, and the regular US spacers (Quarkspace, Alien Planetscapes, Born to Go, etc.) are always very strong. And now I see none other than Das Ludicroix listed! OK, Larry, what's the scoop? (Are you coming, Carl?) Keith H. (FAA) From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Fri Jun 18 11:40:05 1999 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:40:05 -0500 Subject: Cover songs list Message-ID: I finally got a few minutes to update the list of cover songs (insert appropriate excuse about being so busy I can't even think straight most of the time, not that anyone would notice :-). I think I have included all the ones that have been sent in to the list recently. When you get a chance, please take a look at the page below and let me know any corrections or additions. I would especially like to fill in more of the "Where" column. http://www.enteract.com/~weil/golden_void/misc/songs_covered.html Thanks, Frank -- I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere. ============================================================ Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jun 18 10:52:45 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:52:45 -0400 Subject: Cover songs list Message-ID: Frank said... >http://www.enteract.com/~weil/golden_void/misc/songs_covered.html Oh, you should add David Graham who did 4 HW covers on his homeproduced Archaeopteryx CD. http://www.datasync.com/~davidg59/archaeo.html Keith H. (FAA) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jun 18 11:08:38 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:08:38 -0400 Subject: (Totally) OFF: Lord Sutch Message-ID: Hi Folks... I just discovered that (Screaming) Lord Sutch, he the maker of bad albums with famous people and champion of the Monster Raving Loony Party, recently committed suicide. What's the 'full' story? Any Hawkwind connections? (Surely there must be one.) Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Now you'll have to vote for Tarquin Fim Tim Lim Dim Wim Bim Bus Stop F'tang F'tang Ole Biscuit Barrel. :) From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jun 18 12:26:47 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:26:47 +0100 Subject: HW: BADAM Festival Message-ID: Relief. I have my ticket for BADAM at Buxton 8-) I also have several flyers advertising the event. I can spread these around various record shops in Edinburgh but is there anyone on the list who isn't going to Buxton but would have a small space somewhere they were willing to advertise this Festival? If so please let me know and I'll send you some of my supply! thanx jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Fri Jun 18 12:27:38 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 12:27:38 -0400 Subject: (Totally) OFF: Lord Sutch Message-ID: > P.S. Now you'll have to vote for Tarquin Fim Tim Lim Dim Wim Bim Bus Stop > F'tang F'tang Ole Biscuit Barrel. :) > Is he from the Silly Party or the Slightly-Silly Party? From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jun 18 12:33:34 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:33:34 +0100 Subject: (Totally) OFF: Lord Sutch In-Reply-To: Keith Henderson's message of Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:08:38 -0400 Message-ID: Keith Henderson writes: > Hi Folks... > > I just discovered that (Screaming) Lord Sutch, he the maker of bad albums > with famous people and champion of the Monster Raving Loony Party, recently > committed suicide. > > What's the 'full' story? I only know he was found hanged in a room. Haven't read the papers recently so if there's any more info I don't know it. > Any Hawkwind connections? (Surely there must be one.) tenuously - he used to own a pub in Devon. Does that count? jill > > Keith H. (FAA) > > P.S. Now you'll have to vote for Tarquin Fim Tim Lim Dim Wim Bim Bus Stop > F'tang F'tang Ole Biscuit Barrel. :) so has Ms Whiplash retired from the political scene? > ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jun 18 12:42:33 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:42:33 +0100 Subject: (Totally) OFF: Lord Sutch In-Reply-To: Hall, Russell J's message of Fri, 18 Jun 1999 12:27:38 -0400 Message-ID: Hall, Russell J writes: > > P.S. Now you'll have to vote for Tarquin Fim Tim Lim Dim Wim Bim Bus Stop > > F'tang F'tang Ole Biscuit Barrel. :) > > > Is he from the Silly Party or the Slightly-Silly Party? He's split the Silly vote... FoFP From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jun 18 12:43:11 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 12:43:11 -0400 Subject: OFF: Lord Sutch Message-ID: Electronic Telegraph UK News ISSUE 1483 Thursday 17 June 1999 Death of Looniest leader in politics By Sebastian Berger SCREAMING LORD SUTCH, founder of the Monster Raving Loony party and a fixture of British elections for decades, was found hanged yesterday afternoon. He was 58. Police were called to his late mother's house in Harrow, north London, at about 3pm. "A man was pronounced dead at the scene," a spokesman for Scotland Yard said. David Sutch first stood for Parliament in 1963 and went on to run in dozens of elections, regularly losing his deposit but always bringing colour to politics. Among his ideas were turning Battersea power station upside down and using it as a snooker table, and converting the EU butter mountain into a ski resort. The questions he asked included "Why is there only one Monopolies Commission?" and the party slogan ran: "Vote for Insanity - You know it makes sense!" More seriously, he proposed lowering the voting age to 18, the introduction of local radio, and honouring the Beatles, all of which eventually happened. His biggest success came in 1990, when he beat the SDP candidate in a by-election at Bootle. The result forced Dr David Owen to disband the party, which had remained outside the merger between the Liberals and mainstream Social Democrats, to avoid further embarrassment. Alan Hope, the party's chairman and deputy leader, said he was appalled and shocked. He said: "I'm astounded. It's going to take a day to sink in. Over the years he has been a bit down, when he owed the bank a lot of money, and when his mother died, but he had bounced back since then. I spoke to him last week and he was buoyant and full of fun." Mr Hope, a pub landlord, is mayor of Ashburton, Devon. He promised last night: "The party will carry on. The Lord is dead, long live the king." Sutch was born in London in 1940 and his father, a policeman was killed in the Blitz. He became a rock 'n' roll singer and adopted the sobriquet Lord from a hat he wore on stage which looked like a coronet, adding it to his name by deed poll in the late Sixties. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jun 18 12:43:16 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:43:16 +0100 Subject: (Totally) OFF: Lord Sutch In-Reply-To: J Strobridge's message of Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:33:34 +0100 Message-ID: J Strobridge writes: > > P.S. Now you'll have to vote for Tarquin Fim Tim Lim Dim Wim Bim Bus Stop > > F'tang F'tang Ole Biscuit Barrel. :) > > so has Ms Whiplash retired from the political scene? Wasn't she murdered some years ago? Or have I got her confused with another scandal? FoFP From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jun 18 12:49:15 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 12:49:15 -0400 Subject: OFF: Lord Sutch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: BBC News Online: Entertainment Thursday, June 17, 1999 Published at 09:57 GMT 10:57 UK Rock roots of political Loony Screaming Lord Sutch, who has been found dead at his London home, will be fondly remembered by a generation of rock fans as well as the UK's politicians. The self-styled lord - real name David Sutch - was Britain's longest-serving political leader, standing in nearly 40 elections. He was found dead at his home in Harrow by his partner, Yvonne Elwood. Police said they were called after reports of a man found hanging. But before he entered politics he was most famous as a pop star, and continued performing up until his death. Born in Middlesex on 10 November, 1940, he first rose to prominence in 1960 when he made his debut appearance at the Two I's coffee bar in London. He was the first long-haired pop star - boasting hair over 18 inches long. Many compared his style at the time to that of Screamin' Jay Hawkins. His early records included 'Til The Following Night, Jack The Ripper and I'm A Hog For You Baby, all produced by Joe Meek of Telstar fame. Meek embellished the Sutch sound with his usual array of treated instruments, compression and odd effects. His early singles were mostly novelties for Halloween - seen by some as a precursor of acts like The Cramps and The Damned - or covers of rock and R & B standards. Although his records were frowned on by critics, he was one of the first geniunely fun rock 'n' roll stars to come out of the UK before the arrival of the Beatles. Although never achieving chart success, his band - the Savages - were one of the most accomplished live acts of the sixties. The band featured stars including Paul Nicholas, Ritchie Blackmore and Nicky Hopkins. In 1964 he also set up an offshore radio station, Radio Sutch, whuch later became Radio City after he sold out. But in 1970, some success did come his way when he scored a hit in the US album charts with Lord Sutch And Heavy Friends. As well as featuring Blackmore and Hopkins, heavyweight support was provided by Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, Keith Moon, Noel Redding and John Bonham. But alongside his music career, he founded the Teenage Party in 1963, which later became the Official Monster Raving Loony Party took up more and more of his time - and his income. Until recently, Sutch performed up to 250 concerts a year throughout Europe, helping to fund his future political ambitions, such as standing for the position of mayor of London - a dream he will now never realise. From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri Jun 18 13:09:29 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 01:09:29 +0800 Subject: (Totally) OFF: Lord Sutch In-Reply-To: <199906181633.RAA00158@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > Hi Folks... > > > > I just discovered that (Screaming) Lord Sutch, he the maker of > bad albums > > with famous people and champion of the Monster Raving Loony > Party, recently > > committed suicide. > > > > What's the 'full' story? > > I only know he was found hanged in a room. Haven't read the papers > recently so if there's any more info I don't know it. > The newspaper here says that there were suspicious circumstances that the police are looking into. One thing I do find annoying though, is that there has been no mention here of his period as a rock star. William From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Fri Jun 18 14:05:47 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:05:47 -0500 Subject: (Totally) OFF: Lord Sutch Message-ID: Yes, indeed there is a HW/Lord Sutch connection, Harvey Bainbridge, for one, had done benefits for him, and I THINK I recall him mentioning that Hawkwind had also, in a discussion we had on the bus in 1990 on the US tour. I wish our politicians were half as entertaining, presidential cigars notwithstanding... Chris B. From Joe.Lofft at EXMAIL.ITEC.SUNY.EDU Fri Jun 18 15:34:20 1999 From: Joe.Lofft at EXMAIL.ITEC.SUNY.EDU (Lofft, Joe) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:34:20 -0400 Subject: BOC and the Stanley Cup Message-ID: Did anyone happen to hear M.E. 262 during the stoppage of play in Thursdays nights Stanley Cup playoff game between Buffalo and Dallas? Joe Lofft From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Fri Jun 18 17:56:05 1999 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 16:56:05 -0500 Subject: OFF: Skye Klad Message-ID: Skye Klad will perform a free outdoor concert Monday at the Nicollet Island park in St. Paul, MN. The concert starts at 7pm and is to celebrate the summer solstice. From hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU Fri Jun 18 19:00:21 1999 From: hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU (hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:00:21 -0500 Subject: OFF: Skye Klad In-Reply-To: <376AC075.4E5AC296@uswest.net> Message-ID: I've heard of this band before, but I don't know what they sound like. could you describe? (The name is way cool in any event...) thomas On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, Dan Witt wrote: > Skye Klad will perform a free outdoor concert Monday at the Nicollet > Island park in St. Paul, MN. The concert starts at 7pm and is to > celebrate the summer solstice. > From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Fri Jun 18 19:14:41 1999 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:14:41 -0500 Subject: OFF: Skye Klad Message-ID: hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU wrote: > > I've heard of this band before, but I don't know what they sound like. > could you describe? (The name is way cool in any event...) > > thomas Space and drone. Their website is http://www.skyeklad.com/gig.html > > On Fri, 18 Jun 1999, Dan Witt wrote: > > > Skye Klad will perform a free outdoor concert Monday at the Nicollet > > Island park in St. Paul, MN. The concert starts at 7pm and is to > > celebrate the summer solstice. > > I think I erred, Nicollet Island Park is in Minneapolis. Although I'm not exactly where yet. From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jun 18 19:29:09 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 00:29:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga In-Reply-To: <000001beb841$f5160a80$1f45fad4@ekew.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: >> >>Vol I: I Am a Clone. I Am Not Alone C-100 / 19 tracks >>Revolution (Spacemen 3) So, is this off "Caution" or what? -- Jon From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Jun 18 20:09:24 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:09:24 -0700 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga Message-ID: On Sat, 19 Jun 1999 00:29:09 +0100, Jon Browne wrote: >>>Revolution (Spacemen 3) > >So, is this off "Caution" or what? No, it's another one of those sounds-like-a-Hawkwind-song tracks, although given the opinions that Sonic and Jason expressed about Hawkwind in mid/late-80s interviews, you can be pretty certain that this time it WASN'T intentional (unlike the previous examples I gave), although Spacemen 3 WERE very talented at "borrowing" other peoples' songs (such as "O.D. Catastrophe" off their first album, which is a note-for-note,fuzz/wah-solo-for-fuzz/wah-solo rewrite of "T.V. Eye"). But the first time I heard "Revolution" on the radio, my immediate thought was "either this is the new Spacemen 3 single, or someone has just released a really great cover of 'You Shouldn't Do That'!" (and then the vocals came in, which answered my question). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Jun 18 20:20:24 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:20:24 -0700 Subject: OFF: Blue Circle (was: Re: HW: Covers All Questions) Message-ID: Damn! It appears that my troll to draw out any lurking punk rockers met with no success. I never heard of the Blue Circle Cement Company, but I wonder if Darby Crash had? The Blue Circle was the logo for seminal L.A. punk/proto-hardcore band The Germs (whose original drummer went on to join the Go-Gos and whose guitarist went on to become fabulously wealthy by becoming a sideman for a certain Seattle rock star who decided he'd rather roll around on the stage than play guitar ... but I digress [further digressions: Cleopatra records have released a Germs live album, and an early Germs 7" was released by Iloki records, who released Hawkwind's 'California Brainstorm' some ten years later]). There's a great version of the Germs song "Land of Treason" recently recorded by ST37 that may or may not be on their next album ... anyone who liked their cover of "No Fight In The 80s" (a punk rock cover so obscure I don't know the original ... but it's not like I own all the volumes of 'Killed By Death' or anything) ought to like this one. -Doug ceres at sirius.com On Thu, 17 Jun 1999 16:13:34 +0100, "nigel.kew" wrote: >The only reference to Blue Circle I can think of is bizarrely Blue Circle >cement!!? if true what's all that about then. > >>The band, as well as their Blue Circle cassette label (trivia question: to >>what does the label name refer?) can be contacted at P.O. Box 4962 / From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jun 18 19:56:15 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 00:56:15 +0100 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990618170924.008a3980@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: In message <3.0.6.32.19990618170924.008a3980 at pop.sirius.com>, Doug Pearson writes >On Sat, 19 Jun 1999 00:29:09 +0100, Jon Browne wrote: >>>>Revolution (Spacemen 3) >> >>So, is this off "Caution" or what? > >No, it's another one of those sounds-like-a-Hawkwind-song tracks, although >given the opinions that Sonic and Jason expressed about Hawkwind in >mid/late-80s interviews, you can be pretty certain that this time it WASN'T >intentional (unlike the previous examples I gave), although Spacemen 3 WERE >very talented at "borrowing" other peoples' songs (such as "O.D. >Catastrophe" off their first album, which is a >note-for-note,fuzz/wah-solo-for-fuzz/wah-solo rewrite of "T.V. Eye"). But >the first time I heard "Revolution" on the radio, my immediate thought was >"either this is the new Spacemen 3 single, or someone has just released a >really great cover of 'You Shouldn't Do That'!" (and then the vocals came >in, which answered my question). > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com You type like a demon, Doug!! I couldn't have dictated a reply that quick, let alone posted one. have a good evening! -- Jon From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Jun 18 20:21:39 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 01:21:39 +0100 Subject: HW: Website updates... In-Reply-To: <199906181526.LAA26800@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: There will be updates to hawkwind.com... --Andy ObCD: Hawkwind - "Silver Machine" :) mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Jun 18 20:21:41 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 01:21:41 +0100 Subject: (Totally) OFF: Lord Sutch In-Reply-To: <199906181620.MAA26582@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Lord Sutch (David Sutch, I think his real name was) came up with lots of really wacky policies which are now mainstream thinking if not actually law, e.g. passports for pets, votes at 18, pubs open all day. People said he was mad, but then again Tony fucking Blair bombs foreign countries at will. Draw your own conclusions. I saw a late incarnation of the Savages in about '92 - early incarnations included Ritchie Blackmore, people like that - they rocked well. He'll be missed. --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of Keith Henderson Sent: 18 June 1999 16:09 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: (Totally) OFF: Lord Sutch Hi Folks... I just discovered that (Screaming) Lord Sutch, he the maker of bad albums with famous people and champion of the Monster Raving Loony Party, recently committed suicide. What's the 'full' story? Any Hawkwind connections? (Surely there must be one.) Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Now you'll have to vote for Tarquin Fim Tim Lim Dim Wim Bim Bus Stop F'tang F'tang Ole Biscuit Barrel. :) From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jun 18 21:55:34 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 01:55:34 GMT Subject: HW: Edinburgh Concert and Kris remembers Olga In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990618170924.008a3980@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: >No, it's another one of those sounds-like-a-Hawkwind-song tracks, although >given the opinions that Sonic and Jason expressed about Hawkwind in >mid/late-80s interviews, you can be pretty certain that this time it WASN'T >intentional what were these opinions? In the only interview of theirs that i remember (and this is probably the reason i remember it) when compared to Hawkwind they seemed pretty pleased with the comparison, saying that they were aiming to achieve a similar drone (their words - i think space is deep was mentioned) throughout all their own stuff. Of course my memory of this innerview mat be flawed. :-) andrew From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Fri Jun 18 23:04:13 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:04:13 -0500 Subject: Das Ludicroix Message-ID: Well, it is indeed official, the best band you never heard will be playing StrangeDaze this year, and I can assure you all, no one will ever be the same after you hear them. This is not a band. This is not a jam session. Das Ludicroix as named is a loose conglomeration of extremely talented individual Spacerockers, any one of whom could hold up their end in Hawkwind. Ian Souther, stage manager of StrangeDaze past, Hawkwind roadie, Dave Brock's guitar tech and Richard Chadwick's drum tech on the 90 and 91 North American tours, and Larry Boyd, early HW archaeologist and percussionist of unequalled stamina (with a well tuned ear to match) form the nucleus. Tentatively scheduled to join the fray are the multi-instrumental genius Doug Walker of Alien Planetscapes and our own Carl Anderson, who needs no intro to this audience. I will be mixing the "band" in typical HW style, but I don't expect to be able to keep this genie in the bottle. They will go where they will, and there are no maps. Do not expect structure, reference, or style. just listen and leave this planet. Whether you make it back is up to you! Having hosted this "thing" at several parties, I will rest my reputation on their power. If you miss Strangedaze this year you will regret it until you either die or go deaf. If you think I'm overpromoting them, you haven't heard them. Anyone who doesn't like open-ended spacejamming doesn't belong at Strangedaze anyway, but I can safely say that there will be a skyscraping soundscape when they take the stage. Wear your helmet and goggles for this one. Chris B From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jun 18 22:11:53 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 22:11:53 EDT Subject: OFF: DAS LUDICROIX/STRANGE DAZE '99: a/k/a THE SCOOP Message-ID: an AHOOASTIA (tm) PRESS RELEASE version 2 add DAS LUDICROIX, that most invisible of psychedelic jam bands, to the roster of bands appearing at the 3 day STRANGE DAZE 1999 space rock festival, to be held august 20-22, at nelson ledges quarry park,"an hour east of cleveland" we are tentatively scheduled to appear on the third day; at the moment our >>theoretical<< lineup is: ian souther = guitar carl anderson = guitar/bass ron scott = bass/guitar larry boyd = drums * esteemed guest doug walker of alien planetscapes = synth/electronics and >>perhaps<< a lady in the role of stacia; ha ha, we might have to sneak her back into the states (many grins) (hi karin!) this is >>subject to modification<<; carl's been penciled in from the start but i havent actually "spoken" w/him since this became a reality. the bass slot has changed a couple times and could change again (we're hoping not) we hope to play a "pass the hat" party or two prior to that in our area (SE mass), to warm up and for gas/expense money ^_~ this is a comparatively shining moment, hoo hah, for "the band that doesnt exist"! we'll see to it that they dont forget us! it's the least we can do... "when all there is, is what you hear..." show up light up turn up DAS LUDICROIX "<>" 1999 ahooastia/VAC From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Sat Jun 19 03:58:43 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Gekke Henkie) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 09:58:43 +0200 Subject: OFF: tape ring Message-ID: Well guys, I just got me second tape yesterday_thanks Stuart_and I'm listening to it right now. This tape is great. It's all new to me! Wonderful. I did send my first tape right on_wath your mailbox Mark_ Hope you all got your second one too! --BArt From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Jun 17 19:05:21 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 00:05:21 +0100 Subject: (Fwd) Re: HW: Covers All Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 15:57 17/06/99 +0200, you wrote: >Op 17 Jun 99, om 13:22, Chris Warburton schreef: >> >I have a CD of that somewhere... >> > >> >> Ik ook! (As we used to say in Belgium) >Ik niet :-( (As we say in the Netherlands) > >--BArt Sorry - forgot that there was at least one person on this list who wouldn't think I was doing chimpanzee impersonations ;-) Any Flemings about? ChrisW From john.m.gray at CWIX.COM Sat Jun 19 16:50:40 1999 From: john.m.gray at CWIX.COM (John Gray) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 13:50:40 -0700 Subject: Dawn of Hawkwind CD Message-ID: Does anyone know were I can order the CD with booklet here in the states? Thanks, John From makmorn at QIS.NET Sat Jun 19 17:35:50 1999 From: makmorn at QIS.NET (Daniel Ligon) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 17:35:50 -0400 Subject: Imaginos? In-Reply-To: <6D986111E966D211A65E00A0C96E961108FB77@C2>; from Joseph Brooks on Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 07:32:54AM -0700 Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 07:32:54AM -0700, Joseph Brooks wrote: > Ack, that link appears to be dead.. anyone got another? It's somewhere among the frames and other detritus of: http://www.keyinfo.com/tyranny1/ -- Daniel Ligon makmorn at qis.net We are in the hands of infinite power and infinite sadism. -- _Inferno_ From flossbac at NLCI.COM Sat Jun 19 19:58:13 1999 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 18:58:13 -0500 Subject: Dawn of Hawkwind CD Message-ID: I've asked repeatedly, but no one has answered, so let me again ask, regarding the Dawn Of Hawkwind CD: What is the track listing? Have these tracks appeared elsewhere? John Majka From jtal at C379223-A.PLSTN1.SFBA.HOME.COM Sun Jun 20 00:32:51 1999 From: jtal at C379223-A.PLSTN1.SFBA.HOME.COM (Joe Tal) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 21:32:51 -0700 Subject: Dawn of Hawkwind CD In-Reply-To: <002d01bebaaf$98336220$dd6040ce@pavilion> from "flossbac" at Jun 19, 99 06:58:13 pm Message-ID: I searched the net and could not find anything, sorry. > > I've asked repeatedly, but no one has answered, so let me again ask, > regarding the Dawn Of Hawkwind CD: What is the track listing? Have these > tracks appeared elsewhere? > John Majka > From brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jun 20 04:37:26 1999 From: brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 09:37:26 +0100 Subject: Dawn of Hawkwind CD Tracklist as requested In-Reply-To: <199906200432.VAA03240@c379223-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com> Message-ID: Dear All The listing is Come On My babys gone Dealing with the devil Roll em Pete Bring it on Home Illusions Get yourself together Whats the matter Bottle up Diamond Ring Hurry on Sundown Cymballine Master of the Universe Hurry on Sundown is the Hawkwind Zoo Version Cymbaline is on the remastered 1st album tracks 3 5 are on the 1986 Samurai Anthology Vol 3 From lbp94 at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jun 20 12:14:55 1999 From: lbp94 at HOTMAIL.COM (lori pompan) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 12:14:55 BST Subject: HW: German Fan Meeting Message-ID: >From: "SHLL (Scott Heller)" >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Subject: HW: German Fan Meeting >Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:46:22 +0200 > >Hej, > > Did anyone go to the Hawkfan meeting in Hamburg this weekend? Did >Bedoiun, Huw or SPacehead really play? I had a great time last year and >would like to hear how it turned out? > >Scott > >ObMD- Nebula- K?benhavn 5/22/99 I can't believe no one has responded to this -- but then again I can't believe they didn't ask Nik or Trev to play. Lori --- Judgement Records -- Inner City Unit ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 2145 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 2145 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sun Jun 20 15:34:17 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:34:17 -0500 Subject: F/I whereabouts Message-ID: Hey, has anyone heard if f/i are still around, I noticed they weren't on the Strangedaze bill... From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sun Jun 20 14:59:51 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 19:59:51 +0100 Subject: Dawn of Hawkwind CD In-Reply-To: flossbac's message of Sat, 19 Jun 1999 18:58:13 -0500 Message-ID: flossbac writes: > I've asked repeatedly, but no one has answered, so let me again ask, Actualy somebody did but merely to say that they were mostly pre-Hawkwind Zoo stuff I think. > regarding the Dawn Of Hawkwind CD: What is the track listing? Have these > tracks appeared elsewhere? Rest assured that as soon as the Codex folk have obtained their copies of Dawn from retailers who either seem to have gone to sleep or have been inundated with so many orders that they've run out of packers/packing material/stamps/ or just plain haven't got round to sending them out yet then you will have your references. From first impressions some of the tracks seem to be from the Wierd tapes or early compilations like White Boy Blues or such like but this is speculation only. Until my retailer gets his finger out and sends me what I've had on order for about 4 months now I can't answer your question. But I will when I can jill aaaaaatchooo - summer cold 8-( ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Sun Jun 20 17:03:13 1999 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:03:13 -0700 Subject: F/I whereabouts In-Reply-To: <376D4239.4563@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: > Hey, has anyone heard if f/i are still around, I noticed they weren't > on the Strangedaze bill... > I was wondering the same about Architectural Metaphor.......... Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Mon Jun 21 00:03:35 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 23:03:35 -0500 Subject: F/I whereabouts Message-ID: Kevin Sommers wrote: > > > Hey, has anyone heard if f/i are still around, I noticed they weren't > > on the Strangedaze bill... > > > I was wondering the same about Architectural Metaphor.......... > > Kevin Sommers Bionaut, their spinoff are playing SD this year. ArcMet are fine, I talked to Paul recently. > > primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu > > From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Jun 21 00:51:16 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 00:51:16 EDT Subject: HW/NIK: Where-abouts of Del Rio/Grenas/Fox? Message-ID: Speaking of whereabouts, I've been wondering myself... I know Nik's doing the jazz thing in England, from a recent review posted here. But what of the Pressurehed guys? 1. Will there ever be another Zero Gravity album? It's been 4 yrs. since the glorious debut. 2. Will there ever be another Brain album? It's been 3 since the glorious debut. 3. Will there be another Pressurehed album? It's been 3 years since their last. 4. A little too soon to be asking for a new Anubian Lights album, but how about it? 5. Does Nik ever wanna record/tour will these people again? 6. I'm not really a huge fan of Farflung (yet), but are they still together? Something, anything on perhaps the best current collective of space musicians appreciated, Chuck From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jun 21 02:39:54 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:39:54 +0900 Subject: OFF: (Way) Doctor Who Stamps Message-ID: I got a letter from the UK last week with a wonderful stamp with a picture of a Dalek. Is this a one off or is there a whole set? -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Jun 21 04:47:42 1999 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Rich Lockwood) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:47:42 +0100 Subject: OFF: tape ring Message-ID: Still not got my first one. :-( I'm hoping it's just held up somewhere in transit, rather than the phantom post theif in our block nicking it again. Cheers, Rich. Gekke Henkie wrote: > Well guys, > > I just got me second tape yesterday_thanks Stuart_and I'm listening > to it right now. This tape is great. It's all new to me! Wonderful. > I did send my first tape right on_wath your mailbox Mark_ > > Hope you all got your second one too! > > --BArt From SHLL at NOVO.DK Mon Jun 21 04:03:47 1999 From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:03:47 +0200 Subject: HW: Eclipse 99 Message-ID: I was just checking up on the Eclipse in Cornwall on August 11th. I hope that HW have it all arranged nicely for us who are traveling in, because there are loads of sites warning about lack of accomidations because there are like 5 music festivals in the area because of the event and camping space,etc is said to be limited and mostly booked up already and forget about getting a hotel room... http://www.netpz.co.uk/total.htm It sure would be great to see it happen though.. I haven't seen Hawkwind since April 1994. Too long.. scott ObCD- Miles Davis- Dark Magus From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jun 21 08:20:55 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 08:20:55 -0400 Subject: HW/NIK: Where-abouts of Del Rio/Grenas/Fox? Message-ID: Chuck wondered... >5. Does Nik ever wanna record/tour will these people again? Perhaps when they meet again at SD'99 (as both Farflung w/ NikT and as Anubian Lights), they'll talk about future works. >6. I'm not really a huge fan of Farflung (yet), but are they still together? Yeah, absolutely. They just put out an album a few months' back. I can't even remember the title, but it's really good. The cover is robin's egg blue (very strange), a digipack, with a photo of a dandelion gone to seed. It's on the Bad Acid label (the same folks who do the stoner rock 'zine of the same name) in the UK. Great...another import release of a US band - happens way too often. Anyway, I got mine through MeteorCity in Albuquerque, NM (see the AI source map). Not *too* expensive...probably cheaper than in the UK anyway. :) Keith H. (FAA) http://www.infinet.com/~jkranitz/space/space.html From artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM Mon Jun 21 09:46:49 1999 From: artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM (Gary Davis) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 09:46:49 -0400 Subject: Dawn of Hawkwind CD Message-ID: At 05:01 AM 6/21/99 -0400, Jill wrote: > >flossbac writes: > >> I've asked repeatedly, but no one has answered, so let me again ask, > >Actualy somebody did but merely to say that they were mostly >pre-Hawkwind Zoo stuff I think. > >> regarding the Dawn Of Hawkwind CD: What is the track listing? Have these >> tracks appeared elsewhere? > >Rest assured that as soon as the Codex folk have obtained their copies >of Dawn from retailers who either seem to have gone to sleep or have >been inundated with so many orders that they've run out of >packers/packing material/stamps/ or just plain haven't got round to >sending them out yet then you will have your references. From first >impressions some of the tracks seem to be from the Wierd tapes or early >compilations like White Boy Blues or such like but this is speculation >only. Until my retailer gets his finger out and sends me what I've had >on order for about 4 months now I can't answer your question. But I >will when I can Hi, folks! For those interested, below is the complete press blurb from Voiceprint regarding Dawn of Hawkwind including the complete track listing: Artist: Hawkwind Title: Dawn of Hawkwind Cat No: BP309CD Label: Blueprint Hawkwind were formed from the ashes of the Hawkwind musicians collective in West London in 1969, with their self titled debut album released in 1970 on Liberty Records. Their main songwriter Dave Brock (vocals, guitars, keyboards) has assembled this collection of studio and live recordings, which cover the years 1966 to the early 70's. There are three different acts featured on this release: The Dharma Blues Band, Hawkwind Zoo and Dave Brock solo. All tracks are sequenced in chronological order and are previously unreleased or alternative versions. The first 1, 000 copies will come with a 32 page A5 booklet, which will feature previously unseen photographs and reproductions from contemporary Hawkwind tour programmes. This Hawkwind scrapbook has been assembled by Dave Brock and will ensure that the initial pressings become desirable collector's items. Track Listing: 1. Come On 2. My Baby's Gone 3. Dealing With The Devil 4. Roll Em Pete 5. Bring It On Home 6. Illusions 7. Get Yourself Together 8. What's The Matter? 9. Bottle Up 10. Diamond Ring 11. Hurry On Sundown 12. Cymballine 13. Master Of The Universe. Key Sales Points 1. The band are approaching their thirtieth anniversary and due to constant recording and touring have retained a very loyal fanbase. This release features many unreleased and alternative versions,including Hawkwind favourites Hurry On Sundown and Master Of The Universe. 2. First 1,000 come with a 32 page A5 booklet, an authorised Hawkwind scrapbook. 3. Press mailout by Frontline to key magazines and fanzines. I've now got this posted up on my Voiceprint page with a graphic of the booklet and a soundbite from my favorite track from the CD, the cover of Pink Floyd's Cymballine. Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop.com phone: 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 SUPPORT THE INDEPENDENT ARTIST!!! ************************************************************** Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jun 21 10:03:53 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 15:03:53 +0100 Subject: Dawn of Hawkwind CD Tracklist as requested In-Reply-To: Brian Coulthard's message of Sun, 20 Jun 1999 09:37:26 +0100 Message-ID: Brian Coulthard writes: > Dear All > The listing is > Come On > My babys gone > Dealing with the devil > Roll em Pete > Bring it on Home > Illusions > Get yourself together > Whats the matter > Bottle up > Diamond Ring > Hurry on Sundown > Cymballine > Master of the Universe > > Hurry on Sundown is the Hawkwind Zoo Version Cymbaline is on the remastered > 1st album tracks 3 5 are on the 1986 Samurai Anthology Vol 3 Are 6 & & the ones from the Weird tapes? Is it a new version of MotU? FoFP From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Mon Jun 21 10:53:14 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 07:53:14 -0700 Subject: DAS LUDICROIX/STRANGE DAZE '99: a/k/a THE SCOOP Message-ID: So where is this Strage Daze gig anyway? I don't suppose its on the west coast.. (Nothing really hip ever is anymore..) JB From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jun 21 11:14:00 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:14:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Eclipse 99 In-Reply-To: Scott Heller's message of Mon, 21 Jun 1999 10:03:47 +0200 Message-ID: Scott Heller writes: > I was just checking up on the Eclipse in Cornwall on August 11th. I hope > that HW have it all arranged nicely for us who are traveling in, because > there are loads of sites warning about lack of accomidations because there > are like 5 music festivals in the area because of the event and camping > space,etc is said to be limited and mostly booked up already and forget > about getting a hotel room... Last I heard from someone who lives under the line of totality in Devon (my Mum) she was telling me how angry and upset the local campsite owners and hotel owners are. Apparently the warnings have been taken literally and not only is no-one booking into the area for the eclipse itself but normal holiday bookings for August are WAY down as well. And I was watching on telly how some farmer had planned to convert a barn on his campsite area into a viewing and exhibition area but is having to scrap the idea because no-one is coming! It's possible everyone is waiting to see what the weather forecast is likely to be before heading down that way but at the moment Devon and Cornwall sound as if they are going to be half empty! jill ObTravelRecommendation> If you are flying in try to land at either Plymouth (or Exeter) or Bristol regional airports - this will save you a 3 or 4 hour journey by rail from London. If you have to fly into London then try and land at one of the terminals to the SW of London and take the airport bus straight to Reading. All trains from London to the West Country go through Reading and, again, it'll save you several hours travel into the city center. ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jun 21 11:01:02 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 11:01:02 -0400 Subject: STRANGE DAZE '99 Message-ID: Joe asked... >So where is this Strage Daze gig anyway? It's the three-day space rock festival in Northeast Ohio, on Aug. 20-22 this year. Worth a long trip, I'd say. (Looks like Carl is coming from England this time! Or are you finishing up over there?) Check out www.strange-trips.com for info/directions/lineups. >I don't suppose it's on the west coast.. (Nothing really hip ever is anymore..) Huh??? Last month, just about the greatest damn festival ever was held in San Francisco. I know, because I was there (I live in Ohio). Gong, Magma, and Porcupine Tree for starters! This was set up by the people at Pangea Music (Shawn Ahearn et al.) who were (sort of) in charge of the entire US tour promotion for these three bands. And I know that when Dave Brock went out to California this spring (to see Lemmy and all), Jim Lascko (of Strange Trips, as above) went out with Dave and met with Shawn about the (hopefully) upcoming Hawkwind tour, and also the possibility of starting some sort of 'Strange Daze West' that Shawn would promote. So perhaps next year? Keith H. (FAA) From mordru at FLITE.NET Mon Jun 21 12:45:14 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 12:45:14 -0400 Subject: STRANGE DAZE '99 In-Reply-To: <199906211613.MAA06254@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: At 11:01 AM 6/21/99 -0400, Keith Henderson wrote: >Joe asked... > >>So where is this Strage Daze gig anyway? > >It's the three-day space rock festival in Northeast Ohio, on Aug. 20-22 this >year. Worth a long trip, I'd say. (Looks like Carl is coming from England >this time! Or are you finishing up over there?) Check out >www.strange-trips.com for info/directions/lineups. > >>I don't suppose it's on the west coast.. (Nothing really hip ever is anymore..) > >Huh??? Last month, just about the greatest damn festival ever was held in True... there are areas far more devoid of cool stuff.... I'm in South Florida, nothing cool ever happens here (just ask Captain Cloud). Year after year we hear of some cool band planning their "US" tour, and the closest they get is somewhere like Baltimore or Chicago. It seems over half the cool stuff is somewhere in the Northeast, about half the remainder is on the west coast. (I'm counting Brain Surgeons gigs in here which skews it towards the NY area somewhat)... Heck, I don't even know anything about them, but was somewhat mildly excited when I heard Phish was gonna do a new year's eve concert here locally, until the local sheriff vowed to prevent it from happening and it looks like it will be somewhere else.... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Mon Jun 21 11:37:18 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 16:37:18 +0100 Subject: Tape Swap Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jun 21 13:28:18 1999 From: brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:28:18 +0100 Subject: Dawn of Hawkwind CD Tracklist as requested In-Reply-To: <199906211403.PAA27423@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Dear All The version of MotU is not one I have heard before it sounds very early tho Brian From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Jun 21 17:37:33 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 14:37:33 -0700 Subject: F/i whereabouts Message-ID: On Sun, 20 Jun 1999 14:34:17 -0500, Christopher Bruce wrote: >Hey, has anyone heard if f/i are still around, I noticed they weren't >on the Strangedaze bill... Unfortunately, I haven't talked to those guys in a while, but I know that both Brian (guitar) and Grant (synth) are pretty intensely involved with other projects at the moment. Brian became a father (I believe) scant weeks after SD98 (I was pretty amazed that his wife, Veronica, made it to the fest at 8+ months while recovering from a severe fever! she rocks!). And Grant has recently gone into full-scale production of his Wiard modular analog synthesizer system, which is probably keeping him (I hope!) incredibly busy. I'll be contacting him shortly to order some modules (the website, http://www.wiard.com, says: "Many features have been taken from dance music technology and married with features from the avant-garde." when it should say "Designed and manufactured BY Space Rockers FOR Space Rockers" ;^) ), which he had demonstrated back at SD97 (it's been a long process for him!). I'll let y'all know if I hear anything more (but check out Grant's synths!) -Doug ceres at sirius.com From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Mon Jun 21 18:23:31 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 1999 18:23:31 -0400 Subject: Tape Swap In-Reply-To: <199906211802.SAA09368@firewall.peritech.co.uk> Message-ID: At 04:37 PM 6/21/99 +0100, Mark wrote: >Hopefully my tape made it over to >Mr Halligan OK ? Yes indeed! Great stuff. Unfortunately, it seems my tape hasn't made it to Rich yet. :-( I'm going to wait another week, and if mine doesn't arrive I'll re-tape it and send it along with your tape to Rich. I've made a copy of yours, so if delivery still doesn't happen you won't have to re-tape it. Brian obTune> "Lasttrak" Plastikman From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Tue Jun 22 08:20:02 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:20:02 +0000 Subject: HW: Eclipse 99 In-Reply-To: <199906211514.QAA25572@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >Scott Heller wrote: > >> I was just checking up on the Eclipse in Cornwall on August 11th. I hope >> that HW have it all arranged nicely for us who are traveling in, because >> there are loads of sites warning about lack of accomidations because there >> are like 5 music festivals in the area because of the event and camping >> space,etc is said to be limited and mostly booked up already and forget >> about getting a hotel room... And At 16:14 21/06/99 +0100, Jill wrote: >Last I heard from someone who lives under the line of totality in Devon >(my Mum) she was telling me how angry and upset the local campsite >owners and hotel owners are. Apparently the warnings have been taken >literally and not only is no-one booking into the area for the eclipse >itself but normal holiday bookings for August are WAY down as well. >And I was watching on telly how some farmer had planned to convert a >barn on his campsite area into a viewing and exhibition area but is >having to scrap the idea because no-one is coming! On Saturday night I heard a very similar story of unbooked camp-sites and cancelled craft-centre pottery courses for that week from an old friend who knows about these things: could be that things won't be too bad after all. ChrisW NP: Wired - New Directions in Dance From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 22 07:52:14 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:52:14 +0100 Subject: Glasters '99 Message-ID: So is anyone from the list going and wants to meet up? FoFP From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Tue Jun 22 08:41:59 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:41:59 +0100 Subject: Glasters '99 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 22 Jun 1999 12:52:14 BST." <199906221152.MAA28844@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > So is anyone from the list going and wants to meet up? > > FoFP Well given the apocalyptic weather the last two years I'm giving it a miss this time round. So it will probably be sunny :-) Maybe next year - if there is one. Have fun. Tim NP: Mogwai, _Come On Die Young_ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 22 09:09:45 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:09:45 +0100 Subject: Glasters '99 In-Reply-To: bart's message of Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:41:59 +0100 Message-ID: bart writes: > > So is anyone from the list going and wants to meet up? > > > > FoFP > > Well given the apocalyptic weather the last two years I'm giving it a miss > this time round. So it will probably be sunny :-) It will be. I deliberately waited until today to book flights/tickets in order to check. The crew are sunburned already. There'll be showers there tomorrow and then a high will move over the area until Monday. > Maybe next year - if there is one. Have fun. I'll do my best... FoFP From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jun 22 09:34:03 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:34:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Dawn of Hawkwind Message-ID: At last! Dawn has arrived 8-) and it's broken my CD player 8-( Perhaps a tad unfair since the player has been thrashing around a bit for a while now but I managed to play it through once and check a couple of tracks before the equipment packed up completely. I think it's fascinating - especially the John Peel show - and contains one of the most bizzare versions of Mirror of Illusion I have ever heard. Possibly because I am a social historian by instinct and a collector of things that go into making up everyday history rather than just dramatic unique events but I personally think it is a rare and wonderful piece of history. It is a chronicle/a diary of the way music and society were changing and is one of the most interesting things I've listened to in years! Trackwise 'Come On' is taken from Wierd 108 only it sounds a lot slower 'Roll Em Pete' is different from the Wierd 108 version however it is the same as that on the White Boy Blues Vol II compilation 2CD the rest I didn't get a chance to check out but there are tracks in the middle (together with commentry from Brock) that are totally unique although not, it has to be admitted, the finest of recordings! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jun 22 14:47:54 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:47:54 -0400 Subject: HW/OFF: Solstice Message-ID: Hi Folks... Was just passing by a newspaper vending machine, and noticed that a photo of Stonehenge appeared on the front page of the Columbus Dispatch. What's the scoop? There seemed to be 'undesirables' hanging out on the monoliths. Keith H. (FAA) From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Jun 22 16:02:14 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 16:02:14 EDT Subject: HW/OFF: Solstice Message-ID: In a message dated 6/22/99 4:00:28 PM, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: << What's the scoop? There seemed to be 'undesirables' hanging out on the monoliths. >> yeah, the cops broke it up. From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Tue Jun 22 18:16:52 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:16:52 -0500 Subject: HW/OFF: Solstice Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > > In a message dated 6/22/99 4:00:28 PM, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > > << > What's the scoop? There seemed to be 'undesirables' hanging out on the > monoliths. > >> > > yeah, the cops broke it up. The cops, Aren't they undesirables?? ChrisB From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jun 23 00:39:30 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:39:30 EDT Subject: HW/OFF: Solstice Message-ID: In a message dated 6/22/99 5:30:05 PM, kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes: << > yeah, the cops broke it up. The cops, Aren't they undesirables?? >> touche, senor bruce "<>" From clemens at TRAIL.COM Wed Jun 23 09:50:13 1999 From: clemens at TRAIL.COM (Clemens & Associates) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:50:13 -0600 Subject: london shopping trip Message-ID: I could use some input/help from any of the England-based list members. My boss is headed to the London area as I type and has offered to do some shopping for me if I tell her what to get and where to get it. Are there any shops in the vicinity of Harrod's? And are there items (Hawkwind, Gong, prog, space etc.) that will be available there that aren't easily obtained in the States? Thanks for any assistance Mark Licht Santa Fe NM clemens at trail.com From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jun 23 10:11:28 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:11:28 +0100 Subject: london shopping trip In-Reply-To: <001301bebd7f$563a2520$0100a8c0@catherine> Message-ID: There are lots and lots of shops in the vicinity of Harrods, but not record shops :). (I boycott Harrods because I don't like Mohammed Al Fayed, but that's neither here nor there. She's probably want to see the shrine anyway. :) These days, most currently available stuff is probably easier and cheaper to get over the internet, to be perfectly honest - I live in London myself, and buy three-quarters or more of my CDs via the net. That said, there are some independents that are worth checking out, like Selectadisc in Berwick Street, Soho; or Rhythm Records in Camden High Street. There's also the usual Tower/Virgin/HMW sheds full of Boyzone's greatest hits (but occasionally some oddities too). Second-hand is another issue, there's lots and lots of places selling used vinyl and CDs (but somehow I doubt your boss will want to page through boxes and boxes of LPs, unless she really likes you! :) --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Clemens & Associates > Sent: 23 June 1999 14:50 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: london shopping trip > > > I could use some input/help from any of the England-based list > members. My > boss is headed to the London area as I type and has offered to do some > shopping for me if I tell her what to get and where to get it. Are there > any shops in the vicinity of Harrod's? And are there items > (Hawkwind, Gong, > prog, space etc.) that will be available there that aren't easily obtained > in the States? > Thanks for any assistance > > Mark Licht > Santa Fe NM > clemens at trail.com > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 23 10:22:08 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:22:08 +0100 Subject: HW/OFF: Solstice In-Reply-To: Keith Henderson's message of Tue, 22 Jun 1999 14:47:54 -0400 Message-ID: Keith Henderson writes: > Hi Folks... > > Was just passing by a newspaper vending machine, and noticed that a photo of > Stonehenge appeared on the front page of the Columbus Dispatch. > > What's the scoop? There seemed to be 'undesirables' hanging out on the > monoliths. Yeah, the Riot Police were there again... FoFP From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Jun 23 19:51:33 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:51:33 EDT Subject: OFF: Melting Euphoria and Hamburgers Message-ID: To place under the recent Where Are They Now file, what of ME these days?? Inside the Gardens of the Mind came out in '97, so it's about that time. Space-rock, I might guess, is an especially difficult profession for an American group--the musicians of which might end up having to do the proverbial hamburger flippin' thing (unless they succumb to some form of techno or "electronica"). I'd hate to hear that Michael Merrill, Anthony Who? and company have donned the ol' apron and paper-hat. Disclaimer: Of course I'm not dissing the current US space/psyche scene, which seems darn good, partly thanks to AI, et. al. (insert your name if you're reading). Chuck From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Wed Jun 23 20:07:43 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:07:43 +0900 Subject: OFF: Gong in Tokyo Message-ID: Hi list, Excuse the mistakes in this, typing in a straight line is not my strong suit this morning. Not sure what I was expecting from the Japanese incarnation of the Global Family. What we got was good, though. The gig started at the inhumanly early time of 6pm at Shibuya's On Air West, a venue which is little larger than a good sized pub hidden away behind a Sushi bar in Shibuya's Love Hotel district. In keeping with a Gong show the waiting audience was eclectic to say the least. Businessmen in suits along side the brightest coloured, longest hair this side of Glasters. And, of course, my challenge. Would Manami the Morrissey fan be converted by the end? Set one was provided by The Canterbury Family which for tonight was Hugh Hopper, Chris Cutler and David Allen. This was a semi improv'd set based around a number of Allen's 80's and 90's compositions. Don't expect a set-list here, the Kirin was doing its stuff and I can barely even read the names on my scrap of paper, never mind the song titles. The trio were joined half way through the set by Mark Hewmin (If that's how it's spelt), a local based synthesist whose name I didn't catch and a trio of J-Pop songstresses called the Ex-Girls. All together they produced an hour of soaring atmospheres and madness that thoroughly pleased those members of the audience who had believed Tokyo Classified's description of Gong as "the british Grateful Dead" and left bemused the ones who had arrived on the strength of DJ Takayoshi being the support. Half an hour later and it's time for part 2. Things get blurry from here. The second set was from Goddess T with Gilli and the band joined by Mark Hewmin, David Allen and the Ex-Girls. This was, without any doubt at all, the best Trance set I have ever seen. Gilli's ululations fitted perfectly with the harsher J-Pop sound of the Ex-Girls and Allen's gliss guitar provided a superbly ethereal backdrop to Orlando and (Sorry, forgotten/can't read the name) mix of loops, live drums and live bass. There was a good thread on the merits of sequence based Trance on this list a while ago, all I can say is that this was how it should be done. This time it was the turn of the GD-ers to look bemused. Much dancing and much beer were indulged in and the Ommriff was heard. Mind you it didn't sound very happy on top of a 140bpm 4 on the floor beat, but once it got used to the idea it flew. Not "Classic Gong", so after over two decades of musical sentience I _still_ haven't caught that act, nevertheless, a bloody good night, and to my never ending surprise, a Morrissey fan was converted to Canterbury Gong. -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Wed Jun 23 21:46:56 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:46:56 -0500 Subject: OFF: Melting Euphoria and Hamburgers Message-ID: Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > > To place under the recent Where Are They Now file, what of ME these > days?? > Inside the Gardens of the Mind came out in '97, so it's about that time. > > Space-rock, I might guess, is an especially difficult profession for an > American group--the musicians of which might end up having to do the > proverbial hamburger flippin' thing (unless they succumb to some form of > techno or "electronica"). I'd hate to hear that Michael Merrill, Anthony > Who? and company have donned the ol' apron and paper-hat. > > Disclaimer: Of course I'm not dissing the current US space/psyche scene, > which seems darn good, partly thanks to AI, et. al. (insert your name if > you're reading). > > Chuck Sorry to say, chuck but I have heard from a fairly reliable source that the original ME has disbanded. I am currently searching for their #, which I had obtained from them as the recording engineer at Strangedaze last year; when I dig through the enless banks of stored addresses in this Black Box I'll find out more for you. If its true its a major loss for the Spacerock scene over here, but at least we finally have Das Ludicroix in a "public" appearance. Make it to SD '99 and bring your Spacerock friends. They won't be disappointed. Chreis Bruce KaduFlyer newsletter From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Wed Jun 23 21:49:34 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:49:34 -0500 Subject: OFF: Gong in Tokyo Message-ID: Dave Greenhalgh wrote: > > Hi list, > > Excuse the mistakes in this, typing in a straight line is > not my strong suit this morning. > > Not sure what I was expecting from the Japanese incarnation > of the Global Family. What we got was good, though. The > gig started at the inhumanly early time of 6pm at Shibuya's > On Air West, a venue which is little larger than a good > sized pub hidden away behind a Sushi bar in Shibuya's Love > Hotel district. In keeping with a Gong show the waiting > audience was eclectic to say the least. Businessmen in > suits along side the brightest coloured, longest hair this > side of Glasters. And, of course, my challenge. Would > Manami the Morrissey fan be converted by the end? > > Set one was provided by The Canterbury Family which for > tonight was Hugh Hopper, Chris Cutler and David Allen. This > was a semi improv'd set based around a number of Allen's > 80's and 90's compositions. Don't expect a set-list here, > the Kirin was doing its stuff and I can barely even read the > names on my scrap of paper, never mind the song titles. The > trio were joined half way through the set by Mark Hewmin (If > that's how it's spelt), a local based synthesist whose name > I didn't catch and a trio of J-Pop songstresses called the > Ex-Girls. All together they produced an hour of soaring > atmospheres and madness that thoroughly pleased those > members of the audience who had believed Tokyo Classified's > description of Gong as "the british Grateful Dead" and left > bemused the ones who had arrived on the strength of DJ > Takayoshi being the support. > > Half an hour later and it's time for part 2. Things get > blurry from here. The second set was from Goddess T with > Gilli and the band joined by Mark Hewmin, David Allen and > the Ex-Girls. This was, without any doubt at all, the best > Trance set I have ever seen. Gilli's ululations fitted > perfectly with the harsher J-Pop sound of the Ex-Girls and > Allen's gliss guitar provided a superbly ethereal backdrop > to Orlando and (Sorry, forgotten/can't read the name) mix > of loops, live drums and live bass. There was a good > thread on the merits of sequence based Trance on this list a > while ago, all I can say is that this was how it should be > done. This time it was the turn of the GD-ers to look > bemused. Much dancing and much beer were indulged in and > the Ommriff was heard. Mind you it didn't sound very happy > on top of a 140bpm 4 on the floor beat, but once it got > used to the idea it flew. > > Not "Classic Gong", so after over two decades of musical > sentience I _still_ haven't caught that act, nevertheless, a > bloody good night, and to my never ending surprise, a > Morrissey fan was converted to Canterbury Gong. > > -- > Dave Greenhalgh > > ICQ#33513470 And its high time! ChrisB From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Jun 23 21:22:32 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:22:32 -0700 Subject: OFF: Gong in Tokyo Message-ID: Not to be too nit-picky (OK, I AM being too nit-picky), but the very wild, very cool female trio that performed with Daevid Allen in Japan are eX-Girl (singular, note capitalization). Their presence on the web can be viewed at: http://0505.net/ex-girl/ My band, Dogbreath, opened for them in SF a few months ago (http://www.sfweekly.com/archives/1998/031099/tudor1.html). It was a blast! They're pretty great; check 'em out ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com P.S. Melting Euphoria haven't played out in ages, as far as I know. I have no idea whether they're still together or not, since I never followed their career too closely (except when I heard that they had a former member of the Lewd playing with them). I guess Chris knows better than I! P.P.S. Heard from Brian Wensing of F/i today, who essentially confirmed the speculations I posted a couple of days ago. He says that they're working on some new material and will be playing out again sometime, although not at Strange Daze. From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Wed Jun 23 21:13:58 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:13:58 +0900 Subject: OFF: Gong in Tokyo Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: > Not to be too nit-picky (OK, I AM being too nit-picky), but the very wild, > very cool female trio that performed with Daevid Allen in Japan are eX-Girl > (singular, note capitalization). Their presence on the web can be viewed at: > > http://0505.net/ex-girl/ > > My band, Dogbreath, opened for them in SF a few months ago > (http://www.sfweekly.com/archives/1998/031099/tudor1.html). It was a > blast! They're pretty great; check 'em out ... > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > There's no pleasing some folk! They are definitely wild, (the CD is pretty good too) -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Wed Jun 23 20:35:19 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:35:19 +1000 Subject: HW: News from EMI Message-ID: Gidday All, Just got this in my in-box from EMI: ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date sent: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 14:24:44 +0100 From: lucy.jordache at emimusic.com (lucy jordache) Subject: hawkiwnd To: The Masters Of The Universe are back with a single CD and 3CD set both entitled Epoch-Eclipse to celebrate the bands 30th Anniversry. To support the albums a remix of Silver Machine by The Scourge Of The Earth (aka Jimmy Cauty of the KLF) is currently doing the rounds at radio stations and clubs in the UK. Also in support of the albums rumours are hotting up of 2 nights at the Brixton Academy London in September with the key members of the band from throughout the last 30 years, Lemmy included. The 1999 Party is here!!! More details to follow. -- PO Box 378 Paul Ward Ashburton http://sonique.net VIC 3147 (time permitting) Mob:0418 524744 sonique at sonique.net From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jun 24 05:00:53 1999 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 02:00:53 PDT Subject: OFF: 1000 mails in my Inbox. Message-ID: Back on the list after about a year - bike accident/major injuries/coma/usual nonsense. I haven't opened this account in all that time and I've never seen a mailbox with over 1000 messages in it before! A friend asked me a question yesterday about The Girl Who Made Love Blind.....and I thought... Imaginos Albert Bouchard Blue Oyster Cult Records BOC-L Oh mi god BOC-L - I owe some guys some tapes and CD's. And so here I am. I think the people I owe stuff to are Clemens, Rocker22, and Andrew Apold. Are any of you guys still there and do you remember? I have copied an Arthur Brown CD for someone and a stack of other stuff - I spent this morning unpacking the boxes of dusty stuff my girlfriend packed while I was in hospital and I found those addresses and other stuff. Who was it was to get my 1996 HW tour teeshirt? Anyway, the question my friend asked me: what is The Girl Who Made Love Blind all about????? Chris Allen Horse Whisperer. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Jun 24 08:24:09 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:24:09 -0400 Subject: OFF: 1000 mails in my Inbox. Message-ID: so here I am. Welcome back... sorry to hear about your trouble.. >I think the people I owe stuff to are Clemens, Rocker22, and Andrew Apold. >Are any of you guys still there and do you remember? I have copied an >Arthur Brown CD for someone and a stack of other stuff - I spent this >morning unpacking the boxes of dusty stuff my girlfriend packed while I was >in hospital and I found those addresses and other stuff. Who was it was to >get my 1996 HW tour teeshirt? I'm still here. Not sure what you owe me unless it was part of the old tape trade I would love a HW tour teeshirt, though, but that wasn't me who was to get it . >Anyway, the question my friend asked me: what is The Girl Who Made Love >Blind all about????? I only have the Malpractice version, I've heard the original Imaginos version was a bit different... I don't remember too much discussion as to what exactly it was about... ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jun 24 08:51:56 1999 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 05:51:56 PDT Subject: OFF: 1001 mails in my Inbox. Message-ID: >Welcome back... sorry to hear about your trouble.. Cheers, still sore but no facial scars, so that's cool ;?>. >I'm still here. Not sure what you owe me unless it was part of the >old tape trade Yeh, I think you were the next person on in the tape trade, or the person before. Does "Stand for the Fire Demon" mean anything to you? >I would love a HW tour teeshirt, though, but that wasn't me who was >to get it . That was definitely a trade for something, I think it may have been a Live BOC tape, but I'm not sure. >what is The Girl Who Made Love Blind all about????? > >I only have the Malpractice version, I've heard the original Imaginos > >version was a bit different... I don't remember too much discussion >as to what exactly it was about... Are the lyrics online anywhere?? And where _did_ you get a listen to the Imaginos version, prey tell????? C. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Jun 24 09:32:14 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:32:14 -0400 Subject: OFF: 1001 mails in my Inbox. Message-ID: >>Welcome back... sorry to hear about your trouble.. > >Cheers, still sore but no facial scars, so that's cool ;?>. > >>I'm still here. Not sure what you owe me unless it was part of the >>old tape trade > >Yeh, I think you were the next person on in the tape trade, or the person >before. Does "Stand for the Fire Demon" mean anything to you? Last tape trade I got two tapes, first I didn't care for and had some kind of brief comedy bit followed by a lot of electronic/tech stuff. The second opened with some scandinavian (I think) band doing 'Iron (wo)man' (a take-off of Iron Man). SFtFD doesn't mean anything to me. >>what is The Girl Who Made Love Blind all about????? >> >>I only have the Malpractice version, I've heard the original Imaginos >> >version was a bit different... I don't remember too much discussion >>as to what exactly it was about... > >Are the lyrics online anywhere?? And where _did_ you get a listen to the >Imaginos version, prey tell????? I didn't, I just heard that on BOC-L from people who have. I believe Bolle has a version you can listen to at the Museum of Cult... (I do have the SWU version of 'Gil Blanco County' on my Imaginos tape, though....) The one I've never even come close to hearing was (I think I remember from somewhere) something called 'Port Jefferson', at least I think I remember it being said this was an Imaginos tune by Buck from way back when... ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jun 24 09:17:52 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:17:52 -0400 Subject: OFF: Melting Euphoria and Hamburgers Message-ID: Chuck asked... >To place under the recent Where Are They Now file, what of ME these >days?? >Inside the Gardens of the Mind came out in '97, so it's about that time. > >Space-rock, I might guess, is an especially difficult profession for an >American group--the musicians of which might end up having to do the >proverbial hamburger flippin' thing (unless they succumb to some form of >techno or "electronica"). I'd hate to hear that Michael Merrill, Anthony >Who? and company have donned the ol' apron and paper-hat. In addition to Chris B.'s info, I also heard that their demise was imminent. I think the situation is that two of the members have moved east (perhaps even to Boston IIRC...Chris should know). But I think they have one more album due on their contract with Cleo. So perhaps we should expect a finale in the next year as a posthumous release. In one sense, it'll be sorry to see them go, but four (or five) albums of similar style is enough for me. And I got to see them perform live at SD'98 (although it wasn't the most inspired performance). So hopefully they'll move on to new and different projects. San Fran is a very vital town and I'm sure we'll see these names (or perhaps their real names) appear again in the future. >Disclaimer: Of course I'm not dissing the current US space/psyche scene, >which seems darn good, partly thanks to AI, et. al. (insert your name if >you're reading). Thanks for the plug. Include Bob Lennon/Kevin Sommers, Dane Carlson and Adam Strider certainly. And of course, the musicians themselves. Rather important ingredient you might say. :) Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Oh, and news of Escapade's demise is premature. I guess there was a communication error between Jim L. and one of the members (also in another band....Oranj something) about playing at SD'99. Escapade wasn't ever supposed to be on the bill I guess. But the Oranj band will be. I think Jerry will put something in the next AI to clear up the situation. P.P.S. Originally, the SD'99 lightshows were advertised as Solar Fire and whatever Tribe of Cro's was called. I guess ToC is not bringing theirs over now, and so Rob Jacobs (Midnite Sun) will do his thing on Sat. night with Nik/Farflung, and Jim will probably do lights Fri. night for ToC. That's my guess anyway. P.P.P.S. Oh, ToC will be doing other shows around the country (probably only the eastern half...sorry out west folks), as they have two weeks between their performance at SD'99 (8/20) and ProgDay '99 (Labor Day wkd. in North Carolina). So far, I know they will play here in Columbus (at Little Brothers w/ Quarkspace) and also Chicago. I think I heard something about Philly as well. ObCD: Faust - Ravvivando From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jun 24 12:18:48 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:18:48 -0500 Subject: OFF: 1000 mails in my Inbox. Message-ID: Horse Whisperer wrote: > > Back on the list after about a year - bike accident/major > injuries/coma/usual nonsense. I haven't opened this account in all that > time and I've never seen a mailbox with over 1000 messages in it before! > > A friend asked me a question yesterday about The Girl Who Made Love > Blind.....and I thought... > Imaginos > Albert Bouchard > Blue Oyster Cult > Records > BOC-L > Oh mi god BOC-L - I owe some guys some tapes and CD's. > > And so here I am. > > I think the people I owe stuff to are Clemens, Rocker22, and Andrew Apold. > Are any of you guys still there and do you remember? I have copied an > Arthur Brown CD for someone and a stack of other stuff - I spent this > morning unpacking the boxes of dusty stuff my girlfriend packed while I was > in hospital and I found those addresses and other stuff. Who was it was to > get my 1996 HW tour teeshirt? > > Anyway, the question my friend asked me: what is The Girl Who Made Love > Blind all about????? > > Chris Allen > Horse Whisperer. Welcome back, from someone who had also been MIA at boc-l for some time and for similar reasons, hope you are in or are on your way to top form, healthwise. Be Well, ChrisB >The Kadu Flyer > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From farmer at ALLENCC.NET Thu Jun 24 13:06:28 1999 From: farmer at ALLENCC.NET (Don Farmer) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:06:28 CST Subject: New to the list In-Reply-To: <199906241332.JAA15750@issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us> Message-ID: Hi, My name is Don Farmer and I just joined this list. I just wanted to introduce myself and see who all is on this list. I am a very big Blue Oyster Cult fan. I have been since the 70's. My first BOC album was Agents of Fortune. I had it on 8-track. Unfortunately, I think it has gotten lost in subsequent moves. Anyway, now I have a lot of their collection. My favorite album is Spectres. I could listen to it all day. I have seen them in concert three times. All three times have been within the past 5 years and all in small venues-- Kansas City, Wichita, and Salina, KS. And I'll see them again if they come around this area. Does anyone know what their summer concert schedule is for this year? Thanks! Don Farmer. From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Jun 24 12:27:01 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:27:01 -0400 Subject: New to the list Message-ID: >Hi, > >My name is Don Farmer and I just joined this list. I just wanted to >introduce myself and see who all is on this list. I am a very big >Blue Oyster Cult fan. I have been since the 70's. My first BOC >album was Agents of Fortune. I had it on 8-track. Unfortunately, I >think it has gotten lost in subsequent moves. Anyway, now I have a >lot of their collection. My favorite album is Spectres. I could >listen to it all day. I have seen them in concert three times. All >three times have been within the past 5 years and all in small >venues-- Kansas City, Wichita, and Salina, KS. And I'll see them >again if they come around this area. Does anyone know what their >summer concert schedule is for this year? Thanks! June 24 -- Pittsburgh, PA June 25 -- Louisville, KY June 26 -- Bottineau, ND --- Rock in the Hills Fest June 27 -- Portsmouth, OH July 3 -- Franklin,PA --- Tune Town July 10 -- Walker, MN --- Moon Dance Ranch Jam July 15 -- Cadott, WI --- Chippewa Valley Rock Fest July 16 -- Beanblossom, IN --- Bike Run July 17 -- Lewistown, MT --- Classic Rock Roundup Aug 3 -- Clarkston, MI --- Pine Knob Music Theatre Aug 7 -- Chicago, IL --- Navy Pier Skyline Stage Aug 12 -- Manchester, TN --- Itchykoo Park Aug 14 -- Omaha, NE ^^ might be your best bet Aug 15 -- Houston, TX Aug 16 -- Odessa, TX Aug 26 -- Uncasville, CT ---The Wolf Den Aug 27 -- Atlantic City, NJ --- Trump Marina Shell Aug 29 -- Anchorage, AK --- Alaska State Fair Aug 30 -- Anchorage, AK --- Alaska State Fair Sept 5 -- Invine, CA --- Irvine Meadows ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Jun 24 12:28:54 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:28:54 -0400 Subject: New to the list In-Reply-To: <199906241502.2195300@allencc.net> Message-ID: Hi Don, Welcome aboard. The BOC traffic on the list has been a little anemic lately, so I hope your arrival will spark some discussion! Check out the official BOC Web site for all the tour news (and a lot more): http://www.bocfanclub.com/Fan-main.html Have you heard about the MoFi gold remastered Agents of Fortune? There is also a MoFi version of BOC and T&M (on one disk) that just came out last month. I have the later, and it sounds amazing. Brian At 11:06 AM 6/24/99 -0600, you wrote: >Hi, > >My name is Don Farmer and I just joined this list. I just wanted to >introduce myself and see who all is on this list. I am a very big >Blue Oyster Cult fan. I have been since the 70's. My first BOC >album was Agents of Fortune. I had it on 8-track. Unfortunately, I >think it has gotten lost in subsequent moves. Anyway, now I have a >lot of their collection. My favorite album is Spectres. I could >listen to it all day. I have seen them in concert three times. All >three times have been within the past 5 years and all in small >venues-- Kansas City, Wichita, and Salina, KS. And I'll see them >again if they come around this area. Does anyone know what their >summer concert schedule is for this year? Thanks! > >Don Farmer. From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Thu Jun 24 12:33:05 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:33:05 -0400 Subject: New to the list Message-ID: Add to that Aug 25 - Weir's Beach NH > ---------- > From: Andrew A. Apold[SMTP:mordru at FLITE.NET] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 1999 12:27 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: New to the list > > >Hi, > > > >My name is Don Farmer and I just joined this list. I just wanted to > >introduce myself and see who all is on this list. I am a very big > >Blue Oyster Cult fan. I have been since the 70's. My first BOC > >album was Agents of Fortune. I had it on 8-track. Unfortunately, I > >think it has gotten lost in subsequent moves. Anyway, now I have a > >lot of their collection. My favorite album is Spectres. I could > >listen to it all day. I have seen them in concert three times. All > >three times have been within the past 5 years and all in small > >venues-- Kansas City, Wichita, and Salina, KS. And I'll see them > >again if they come around this area. Does anyone know what their > >summer concert schedule is for this year? Thanks! > > June 24 -- Pittsburgh, PA > June 25 -- Louisville, KY > June 26 -- Bottineau, ND --- Rock in the Hills Fest > June 27 -- Portsmouth, OH > July 3 -- Franklin,PA --- Tune Town > July 10 -- Walker, MN --- Moon Dance Ranch Jam > July 15 -- Cadott, WI --- Chippewa Valley Rock Fest > July 16 -- Beanblossom, IN --- Bike Run > July 17 -- Lewistown, MT --- Classic Rock Roundup > Aug 3 -- Clarkston, MI --- Pine Knob Music Theatre > Aug 7 -- Chicago, IL --- Navy Pier Skyline Stage > Aug 12 -- Manchester, TN --- Itchykoo Park > Aug 14 -- Omaha, NE > ^^ might be your best bet > Aug 15 -- Houston, TX > Aug 16 -- Odessa, TX > Aug 26 -- Uncasville, CT ---The Wolf Den > Aug 27 -- Atlantic City, NJ --- Trump Marina Shell > Aug 29 -- Anchorage, AK --- Alaska State Fair > Aug 30 -- Anchorage, AK --- Alaska State Fair > Sept 5 -- Invine, CA --- Irvine Meadows > > ============================================ > "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random > > Andrew Apold > From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Thu Jun 24 12:36:37 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:36:37 -0700 Subject: New to the list Message-ID: >Sept 5 -- Invine, CA --- Irvine Meadows Oooohh, I'm there! This is quite a large venue.. Are the boys on the upswing? Oh and welcome to the list Don, nice to see more BOC folk coming to the rescue.. JB From StevenTice at AOL.COM Thu Jun 24 12:42:30 1999 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:42:30 EDT Subject: Girl lyrics Message-ID: In a message dated 6/24/99 8:53:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM writes: << >what is The Girl Who Made Love Blind all about????? > >I only have the Malpractice version, I've heard the original Imaginos > >version was a bit different... I don't remember too much discussion >as to what exactly it was about... > Are the lyrics online anywhere?? And where _did_ you get a listen to the Imaginos version, prey tell????? >> The Imaginos version is VERY different from the Brain Surgeons version. I, personally, much prefer the Imaginos version. Note that the Imaginos version of Gil Blanco County differs a bit from the original, as well. Lyrics to Girl: I thought your eyes, blue "Oh no, they're green," she said to me We danced in time or didn't you know This dance was time At the party of astrologers The Christmas tide was due On the way to Alberdan The dance, the dream and you Actuals and counterclaims Dancing all the time Dancing in the corridor And the dance was time At the height of Christmas tide She found a ghost inside Give it up or let it ride She must decide Actuals and counterclaims Drugged, reborn, resigned The castle stands, the girl remains And if she'll spin It's packed with eyes Out there in the corridor Caught there in the mirror maze >From her last and loving glance A waltz, a dance, whose time Not here but gone is time So put me to the question But there's no return from this castle of mine For the powers that be The girl and her dreams The girl that love made blind And that's the last dream We had upon that night The party of astrologers The Christmas of my life Christmas, Christmas, the Christmas of my life -------- Lyrics supplied by Bolle Gregmar, although I made a few corrections, and I'm afraid another word or two doesn't quite ring true. The original is quite a powerful and dramatic piece. Hopefully someday it will appear on CD! Steven Tice Calliope Comics From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Jun 24 12:55:08 1999 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 12:55:08 EDT Subject: New to the list Message-ID: Welcome aboard!! Just to save time, lets cut to the chase. Go out and buy the first five Hawkwind cds. I KNOW YOU WILL BE VERY HAPPY HERE. NO ONE HAS COMPLAINED.................................................... regards, Bill Stewart From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jun 24 13:11:18 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:11:18 EDT Subject: New to the list In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990624122409.009337d0@mail.earthlink.net> Message-ID: > From: Brian Halligan > Hi Don, > > Welcome aboard. The BOC traffic on the list has been a little anemic > lately, so I hope your arrival will spark some discussion! > > Check out the official BOC Web site for all the tour news (and a lot more): > http://www.bocfanclub.com/Fan-main.html > > Have you heard about the MoFi gold remastered Agents of Fortune? There is > also a MoFi version of BOC and T&M (on one disk) that just came out last > month. I have the later, and it sounds amazing. > > Brian Brian, I didn't see you at Gov't Mule. Were you there? Helluva show... theo From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Jun 24 13:49:09 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:49:09 -0400 Subject: OFF: Gov't Mule (was Re: New to the list) In-Reply-To: <91F0C9723A@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: >Brian, >I didn't see you at Gov't Mule. Were you there? Helluva show... > >theo I've been putting in long hours at work lately, so no chance to catch the Mule. I'm still hoping to catch their outdoor show here in Rochester next month. Brian From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jun 24 14:11:22 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:11:22 EDT Subject: OFF: Gov't Mule (was Re: New to the list) In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990624134613.00934980@mail.earthlink.net> Message-ID: > From: Brian Halligan > > I've been putting in long hours at work lately, so no chance to catch the > Mule. I'm still hoping to catch their outdoor show here in Rochester next > month. > > Brian What's the story on that gig? I hear it's a free show? theo From farmer at ALLENCC.NET Thu Jun 24 15:42:41 1999 From: farmer at ALLENCC.NET (Don Farmer) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:42:41 CST Subject: New to the list In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990624122409.009337d0@mail.earthlink.net> Message-ID: > Hi Don, > > Welcome aboard. The BOC traffic on the list has been a little anemic > lately, so I hope your arrival will spark some discussion! > > Check out the official BOC Web site for all the tour news (and a lot more): > http://www.bocfanclub.com/Fan-main.html > > Have you heard about the MoFi gold remastered Agents of Fortune? There is > also a MoFi version of BOC and T&M (on one disk) that just came out last > month. I have the later, and it sounds amazing. > > Brian Brian, Thanks for the posting. I am glad to be on board. Please forgive my ignorance, but I am not familiar with Hawkwind, or T&M, can you fill me in? Don Farmer. From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jun 24 15:21:01 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:21:01 +0100 Subject: New to the list Message-ID: Hi Don, I'm Doc! I'm only really here for the Hawkwind and related stuff. To save me spinning a long and boring dit either read this months MOJO, its got a stunning retro reveiw of Hawkwind's 1973 live album 'Space Ritual' or check out the below link http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/ Doc.......... ('Brainstorm here i go..') >Please forgive my ignorance, but I am not familiar with Hawkwind From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Jun 24 15:37:29 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:37:29 -0400 Subject: New to the list In-Reply-To: <199906241738.2202800@allencc.net> Message-ID: >Thanks for the posting. I am glad to be on board. >Please forgive my ignorance, but I am not familiar with Hawkwind, or >T&M, can you fill me in? > >Don Farmer. T&M is shorthand for Tyranny & Mutation. The CD has the first two albums on it. Hawkwind is the band that BOC shares time and bandwidth with here on BOC-L. You don't have to receive messages about Hawkwind, but I recommend it. I'll leave it to the Brock-heads on the list to explain the band, but I'll tell you that the genre they fall into is "spacerock." I joined the list in '93 as a BOC fan having never heard of Hawkwind and today I have 13 of their albums. (And that barely scratches the surface.) Brian From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jun 24 16:38:13 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:38:13 -0500 Subject: New to the list Message-ID: Bill Stewart wrote: > > Welcome aboard!! Just to save time, lets cut to the chase. > Go out and buy the first five Hawkwind cds. > > I KNOW YOU WILL BE VERY HAPPY HERE. NO ONE HAS > COMPLAINED.................................................... > > regards, > Bill Stewart Well, our dear friends here at boc-l may be (very) mildly miffed at an originally BOC list becoming the default Hawkwind site, but we all get along quite well, share news of other 'cool' sounds we encounter, and of course, Mike Moorcock writes for both bands... so we're all partners in the sci-fi-spacerock Universe of boc-l. A Hale and Hearty Welcome, friend. Say Hi to Dorothy & Toto for me. ChrisB Kadu Flyer Newsletter From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Jun 24 15:49:39 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:49:39 -0400 Subject: New to the list In-Reply-To: <37729735.C4028042@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Christopher Bruce wrote: => Well, our dear friends here at boc-l may be (very) mildly miffed at an => originally BOC list becoming the default Hawkwind site, but we all get along BOC-L was never originally a BOC list. It has always been a Hawkwind/BOC/friends+relations list. The name "BOC-L" is just an accident of birth. Steve Swann is to blame, of course... ;-) Cheers, Paul. NP: The Allman Brother Band, _Dreams_ (Disc 3) e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Thu Jun 24 15:53:09 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:53:09 -0400 Subject: New to the list Message-ID: >I joined the list in '93 as a BOC fan having never heard of Hawkwind >and today I have 13 of their albums. (And that barely scratches the >surface.) > >Brian 13!!!??? Ya better rush out and buy a 14th, lest you find yourself in a World of Tiers! (Tears) ;) Ron From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Jun 24 16:10:09 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:10:09 -0400 Subject: New to the list In-Reply-To: <000e01bebe7b$35da33e0$89a58fcc@sprawl> Message-ID: At 03:53 PM 6/24/99 -0400, you wrote: >>I joined the list in '93 as a BOC fan having never heard of Hawkwind >and >today I have 13 of their albums. (And that barely scratches the >surface.) >> >>Brian > >13!!!??? Ya better rush out and buy a 14th, lest you find yourself in a >World of Tiers! (Tears) ;) > >Ron I counted "In the Beginning." One of those cheap-o live comps. So it's really more like 12.5 albums. I feel safe. ;-) Brian Hawkwind in your area, Hawkwind in my CD player> "QS&C" From farmer at ALLENCC.NET Thu Jun 24 17:26:17 1999 From: farmer at ALLENCC.NET (Don Farmer) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:26:17 CST Subject: New to the list In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990624153308.009341a0@mail.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Wow, Sounds like a lot of Hawkwind fans out there. I guess I'll have to give them a listen myself. Anybody recommend a good starting album? So what about the BOC fans? Any of you guys out there? Come on, tell me your favorite albums, and songs. Tell me something about Susie Dear, that I didn't already know. Who has seen them the most in concert around here? I realize I am probably initiating conversations that have already taken place before I joined, but I am very interested in finding out what other people think. Most of the people around here haven't even heard of BOC. Then I play them "Don't Fear the Reaper" and they say, "oh yeah, I've heard that song before!" So I need some comradery. Any takers? Don Farmer. From farmer at ALLENCC.NET Thu Jun 24 17:30:21 1999 From: farmer at ALLENCC.NET (Don Farmer) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:30:21 CST Subject: New to the list In-Reply-To: <37729735.C4028042@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: > Hearty Welcome, friend. Say Hi > to Dorothy & Toto for me. > > ChrisB > Kadu Flyer Newsletter Thanks Chris! And thanks for the Wizard of Oz reference. I get that all the time. But it's all right. I get a kick out of it. It's like Disney, you can't go anywhere without seeing Mickey or some other Disney character.. Don Farmer. Don Farmer Head Track/Cross Country Coach 1801 N. Cottonwood Director Fitness Center Iola, KS 66749 FAX: 316-365-7406 Home: (316) 365-5943 Work: (316) 365-5116 ext. 215 Email: farmer at acccn1.allen.cc.ks.us From farmer at ALLENCC.NET Thu Jun 24 17:33:25 1999 From: farmer at ALLENCC.NET (Don Farmer) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:33:25 CST Subject: New to the list In-Reply-To: <006601bebe78$7ee5e0a0$ae42fad4@ekew.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: > Hi Don, > > I'm Doc! > I'm only really here for the Hawkwind and related stuff. > To save me spinning a long and boring dit either read this months > MOJO, its got a stunning retro reveiw of Hawkwind's 1973 live album > 'Space Ritual' or check out the below link > > http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/ > > Doc.......... > > ('Brainstorm here i go..') > What's up Doc? Thanks for the info. Sound like an interesting band. I can't wait to get to hear some of their music. They've been around since 1973 huh? Same line up? Don Farmer. From john.m.gray at CWIX.COM Thu Jun 24 16:52:32 1999 From: john.m.gray at CWIX.COM (John Gray) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:52:32 -0700 Subject: New To The List Message-ID: >Sounds like a lot of Hawkwind fans out there. I guess I'll have to >give them a listen myself. Anybody recommend a good starting album? Oh God, now you've opened the floodgates! Try: Space Ritual Alive in Liverpool and London John From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jun 24 15:39:15 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:39:15 -0400 Subject: New to the list Message-ID: Don said... >Wow! > >Sounds like a lot of Hawkwind fans out there. Well, apparently, still not enough to become widely known in the states. Perhaps in another 30 years. :) >I guess I'll have to give them a listen myself. Anybody recommend a good >starting album? Yeah, ok, before everyone says 'Chronicle of the Black Sword' or 'Live Chronicles' (which will soon happen, as apparently these were the albums considered to be the best place to start for B?C fans-a consensus that I was not part of), I'll go ahead and argue that the HW experience should always start at the key place...i.e., 1973-75, including Space Ritual, Hall of the Mountain Grill, and/or Warrior on the Edge of Time. Any of the three will do. Of course, I heard 'Quark, Strangeness, and Charm' first, but then bought SR not too much later. And oh yeah Don, the bassist on the '73-'75 albums was some guy named Lemmy Kilmister, who you might have heard of. >So what about the BOC fans? Any of you guys out there? Come on, >tell me your favorite albums, and songs. Well, I'm here mainly because of Hawkwind, but as most others, like both bands. And Spectres is my favourite also. Nice to see someone with the same taste. :) >Who has seen them the most in concert around here? Not me certainly, but I've seen them 6 or 7 times (Hawkwind 16 times). The first being 1983 (?) in State College, PA on the TRBN tour w/ Godzilla & the mirrored guitars/laser bit. Duke Jupiter was the opener. Whatever happened to them? I didn't think they were very good, but then I have zero recollection of their music now. >Most of the people around here haven't even heard of BOC. Likely you won't find too many folks knowledgable of Hawkwind then. :( Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Oh, by the way, T&M is Tyranny & Mutation. From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Jun 24 16:58:59 1999 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:58:59 EDT Subject: New to the list Message-ID: In a message dated 99-06-24 16:22:31 EDT, you write: << Sounds like a lot of Hawkwind fans out there. I guess I'll have to give them a listen myself. Anybody recommend a good starting album? >> Hawkwind In Search of Space Doremifasolatido The Space Ritual Hall of the Mountain Grill Warrior on the Edge of Time This should keep you busy for the summer. regards, Bill Stewart From farmer at ALLENCC.NET Thu Jun 24 18:13:35 1999 From: farmer at ALLENCC.NET (Don Farmer) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:13:35 CST Subject: New to the list In-Reply-To: <199906242051.QAA15876@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: > Well, apparently, still not enough to become widely known in the states. > Perhaps in another 30 years. :) So where do they originate from? > Yeah, ok, before everyone says 'Chronicle of the Black Sword' or 'Live > Chronicles' (which will soon happen, as apparently these were the albums > considered to be the best place to start for BoeC fans-a consensus that I was > not part of), I'll go ahead and argue that the HW experience should always > start at the key place...i.e., 1973-75, including Space Ritual, Hall of the > Mountain Grill, and/or Warrior on the Edge of Time. Any of the three will do. Sounds good. That gives me plenty to choose from. > Of course, I heard 'Quark, Strangeness, and Charm' first, but then bought SR > not too much later. And oh yeah Don, the bassist on the '73-'75 albums was > some guy named Lemmy Kilmister, who you might have heard of. Nope, sorry I haven't. Why should I have heard oh him? > Well, I'm here mainly because of Hawkwind, but as most others, like both > bands. And Spectres is my favourite also. Nice to see someone with the same > taste. :) My favorite songs are Nosferatu and I Love the Night. > >Most of the people around here haven't even heard of BOC. > > Likely you won't find too many folks knowledgable of Hawkwind then. :( Seems likely. > P.S. Oh, by the way, T&M is Tyranny & Mutation. Oh, do I feel dumb. Makes sense! Thanks! Don Farmer. From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jun 24 17:22:03 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:22:03 +0100 Subject: New to the list Message-ID: Hi All, Just thought I'd add a few comments to the below list to help Don out. ><< > Sounds like a lot of Hawkwind fans out there. I guess I'll have to > give them a listen myself. Anybody recommend a good starting album? > >> >Hawkwind 'The First, v.hippy' >In Search of Space >Doremifasolatido 'Most excellent outing to Spacedom' >The Space Ritual 'Previously mentioned live album good starter' >Hall of the Mountain Grill 'My first album an essential listen' >Warrior on the Edge of Time 'Not so keen myself' > These are all fairly early albums, for a good spread try a couple of these along with 'P.X.R.5' and 'Space Bandits'. Same line up you must be joking I wouldn't dream of even attempting to list the many varied line changes that have occurred over the past 30 years (yes I did say 30 years) I've been listening to them since 1984 so I'm a mere youngster. Hope you enjoy and join the ever swelling ranks of world wide 'Urban Guerillas' DOC........ From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Jun 24 17:52:02 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:52:02 -0400 Subject: New to the list Message-ID: >Wow, > >Sounds like a lot of Hawkwind fans out there. I guess I'll have to >give them a listen myself. Anybody recommend a good starting album? Well, that's a subject of much debate. In part depends on what BOC you like the best (specifically, if you like Imaginos). I recommend (as far as BOC crossover) "Live Chronicles", "Quark, Strangeness & Charm", and probably "Space Ritual". > >So what about the BOC fans? Any of you guys out there? Come on, >tell me your favorite albums, and songs. Album? Secret Treaties. Spectres and Imaginos being close seconds. Songs... Flaming Telepaths, Astronomy, I Love the Night, Great Sun Jester, Black Blade, Unknown Tongue, Veteran of the Psychic Wars, In the Presence.... the list goes on... Tell me something about >Susie Dear, that I didn't already know. Who has seen them the most >in concert around here? You have, I take it, read the FAQ, prepared by our very own John Swartz? I realize I am probably initiating >conversations that have already taken place before I joined, but I am >very interested in finding out what other people think. Most of the >people around here haven't even heard of BOC. Then I play them >"Don't Fear the Reaper" and they say, "oh yeah, I've heard that song >before!" So I need some comradery. Any takers? We occasionally debate the likelihood of the "Big 3" being omitted, the recent breakup by moving Burnin' For You to the start of the set sometimes was met with approval... ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Jun 24 17:52:02 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:52:02 -0400 Subject: New to the list Message-ID: >> Of course, I heard 'Quark, Strangeness, and Charm' first, but then bought SR >> not too much later. And oh yeah Don, the bassist on the '73-'75 albums was >> some guy named Lemmy Kilmister, who you might have heard of. > >Nope, sorry I haven't. Why should I have heard oh him? Better known as legendary bass player and leader of Motorhead... ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Thu Jun 24 17:54:11 1999 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:54:11 EDT Subject: New to the list Message-ID: Hey, Dan. There's a show scheduled for McAlister, OK 07/24. 3 - 3 1/2 hours from Wichita... Ric From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jun 24 17:27:00 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:27:00 +0100 Subject: New to the list Message-ID: Hi Don Don't be too shocked! >> some guy named Lemmy Kilmister, who you might have heard of. > >Nope, sorry I haven't. Why should I have heard oh him? Ian Kilminster A.K.A. Lemmy (from Motorhead) I'll be disappointed if this doesn't now ring a bell. Doc....... (notice how kindly I put this) From flossbac at NLCI.COM Thu Jun 24 18:04:03 1999 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:04:03 -0500 Subject: New to the list Message-ID: I have to agree that the best place to start listening to Hawkwind is with the "classic" Hawkwind period. I would recommend: In Search of Space Doremi Fasol Latido Space Ritual Hall of the Mountain Grill Warrior on the Edge of Time and then once the addiction has been initiated, you can safely branch out to the many many other releases.... John Majka From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Thu Jun 24 18:29:47 1999 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:29:47 -0700 Subject: New to the list In-Reply-To: <199906241922.2206700@allencc.net> Message-ID: > Sounds like a lot of Hawkwind fans out there. I guess I'll have to > give them a listen myself. Anybody recommend a good starting album? "Warrior On The Edge Of Time" started it all for me back in '83, when I was already a BOC fan. Who knows? It just work the same kind of magik on you as well........... Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jun 24 21:12:36 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:12:36 -0500 Subject: New To The List Message-ID: John Gray wrote: > > >Sounds like a lot of Hawkwind fans out there. I guess I'll have to > >give them a listen myself. Anybody recommend a good starting album? > > Oh God, now you've opened the floodgates! > > Try: Space Ritual Alive in Liverpool and London > > John And if thats not to your taste try "Sonic Attack", its my favorite HW studio album, or the Live Stonehenge "Do Not Panic" my fave live CD. ChrisB Kadu Flyer From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Jun 24 20:37:14 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 01:37:14 +0100 Subject: New to the list In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Paul wrote: >BOC-L was never originally a BOC list. It has always been a >Hawkwind/BOC/friends+relations list. The name "BOC-L" is just an >accident of birth. > >Steve Swann is to blame, of course... ;-) And one of these days, I'll find something to blame him for...*g* Welcome on board...I found the list through my BOC interest (Secret Treaties my personal fave, closely followed by OYFOOYK) , but it served to reawaken my then dormant interest in Hawkwind (expensive...it must be Steve's fault that I'm broke). As for where to start with our favourite space cadets (?) I'm also a big fan of the early '70s stuff (Check out the remasters) and the recently issued "Live 1999 Party" but recorded way back when, though I'm also fond of more recent stuff too. Beware of dodgy cheap "Best Of" collections, some of them could put you right off before you've had a chance to hear the Hawks in all their glory! Cheers, ChrisW From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Jun 24 22:01:54 1999 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:01:54 EDT Subject: New To The List Message-ID: In a message dated 99-06-24 20:15:11 EDT, you write: << Oh God, now you've opened the floodgates! > > Try: Space Ritual Alive in Liverpool and London >> And lets not leave out a good chemist...very helpful for enjoying Hawkwind tunes;) regards, Bill Stewart From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Thu Jun 24 23:54:39 1999 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:54:39 -0500 Subject: OFF: [Fwd: BayProg: Melting Euphoria] Message-ID: Here's a post from Melting Euphoria from the BayProg mailing list. The posts are few and far between on this mailing list but there are a few jewels here and there. http://www.till.com/BayProg/index.html Sorry I didn't forward this sooner! My friend Don of the band Tesseract administers the list. They're more prog than spacerock. Still good though. You can check out sound clips here: http://www.till.com/tesseract/album.html And, there was recent sad news about the demise of the Exposure Radio Show: http://www.mercurycenter.com/justgo/columnists/ear/docs/64.htm Karen -------- Original Message -------- Subject: BayProg: Melting Euphoria Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 13:46:52 PDT From: "Bob Clic" To: bayprog at lists.best.com Hey everyone, since we've been out of touch lately I thought I'd fill in the blanks. Anthony is still back east, I don't have much personal info on him, ie how he is doing or how he likes it, etc. I speak with Mychael and Zero quite a bit. Zero has been playing me stuff over the phone. The three of us (plus my son Steve filling in on bass) will begin some songwriting sessions over the next month or so. Mychael just moved farther north up the Marin side of the bay. He is living in a large ranch-style place with studio space and NO NEIGHBORS! We will be working there once we get started. I've been busy as hell with the other bands I'm in. The blues band, "Big Daddy From Cincinnati" has 2 shows a month at the Boom Boom Room here in SF. We "might" be opening this years SF Blues Fest (I hope). Sales of my 20 year old punk band The Lewd are way better than we thought, (we're bigger than we were in the 70s) prompting a semi-reunion (natch!) this summer. So I've had to work on my speed again!?!?!? and it still feels great! Our next cd will be out in June according to Cleo. We had problems with them not being able to read the zip disk with the artwork so I had to work that out. Then they fucking LOST our master, so we had to send a back-up. I've been very unhappy with this situation, obviously. We most likely will be moving on to another label after this cd. Never in my 20+ years of recording and record label experience have I had these problems. I better stop here before I get nasty. As I am in touch with everyone in the band, I have been co-ordinating the plan for the new songs. We are all in agreement that the next batch of material will be much more high energy, with a rock feel, while remaining meltingly euphoric at the same time. We all just want to change up a bit, and crank out some less dreamy chaos. Don't expect us to work from a setlist, or play our songs in a recognizable fashion, or bother with those messy time-wasting soundchecks. We're the same old band, we're just putting some umph into it. So thats about it, until June when "She's Taking Us Over The Edge Of The World" comes out. Later everybody, Bob Clic Melting Euphoria _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- BayProg EMail list. To remove yourself from the list, send an email message to: BayProg-request at lists.best.com with a body text of "unsubscribe" (but without the quotes). ---------------------------------------------------------------- From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Fri Jun 25 08:29:22 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:29:22 -0400 Subject: BOC, TBS: Info for the "new guy" Message-ID: Welcome to BOC-L Don! I see you're already making yourself right at home here - I thought I'd throw in a bunch of semi-random bits of information that you may not be aware of (I'm good for that sort of thing): 1. First of all, I assume you know of BOC's latest album, *Heaven Forbid*? Released in 1998, it's their first studio effort in 10 years - time and personnel changes in the band have given a bit of a different sound that, oh, say *Secret Treaties* (which seems to be the benchmark album for most BOC fans), but most fans (myself included) really like it -- check it out - you won't miss it in the racks if it's there - the cover is, uh, "eye-catching" at any rate (some don't like it - others think its cool). Notable tracks to check out are the opening cut, "See You in Black" (with a strong Metallica feel to it), the more classic-sounding "Harvest Moon" (which sounds like it could have been on *Spectres*), and "Damaged". 2. For a true sense of information overload on BOC, check out the BOC FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions about BOC) - I'm the editor, and the FAQ basically came about after lots of discussions on this very forum expressing the need for such a document. It's probably somewhat overkill in terms of what this list was originally looking for, but after I started it, it sort of took on a life of its own. At any rate, you can find it at my website: http://members.aol.com/bocfaqman 3. As you may or may not know, former BOC drummer Albert Bouchard is a member of this list. These days he seems to be more of a lurker, but he does drop in every now and then to answer questions, or give updates on his current band, The Brain Surgeons. If you have not heard tBS, I highly recommend them! They will be coming out with their *5th* CD in the past 6 years - this one will be a double CD, entitled *Piece of Work*, and due out around August. For more info on the band, including sound samples from their past albums, gig reviews, and info on ordering their CDs, check out the following website: http://members.aol.com/tbspostop Also, if you have lots of questions for Albert along the lines of him leaving BOC, I recommend you check the BOC FAQ for some of this info first. There's also lots of info their regarding *Imaginos* - a BOC album that came out largely as a result of his efforts. Well, that ought to hold you for the weekend - enjoy! "Good Health to You", John Swartz (aka "BOC FAQ MAN" -- bocfaqman at aol.com) From farmer at ALLENCC.NET Fri Jun 25 09:45:06 1999 From: farmer at ALLENCC.NET (Don Farmer) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 07:45:06 CST Subject: BOC, TBS: Info for the "new guy" In-Reply-To: <3773761F.51DA329C@mitre.org> Message-ID: John, Thanks for all the great info. I have already checked out the FAQ's and those are very insightful. Looks like you've put a lot of work into those. I'll probably look those over again and again. I had heard of the Brain Surgeons before, but never new much about them. That's cool that it is a former member of BOC. I'll have to get an album and see it sounds like. I guess I have a lot of listening to do this summer. Thansk again. You have been very helpful. I enjoy being on this list already. Don Farmer. From abrevard at SHL.COM Fri Jun 25 10:49:17 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 07:49:17 -0700 Subject: OFF: Welcome Don Message-ID: Hi Don: Welcome aboard. You probably have received more posts/data than you imagined so I'll contribute my fair share of the noise. From memory: How many times have you seen BOC - first time was 1975, Feet/Knees tour. Since then I have seen them at least 7 times in the last 8 years. Things you didn't ask - Both the Bouchard brothers are no longer with the band and haven't been for some time. Al has a new band called the Brain Surgeons and has a ton of great cd's. A new two cd set from tBS is comming soon. Sink your teeth into tBS you will not be sorry. Joe still plays occassionaly, he put out a cd last year thats quite good though you probably will not find either tBS or Joe's X-Brothers in your local shop. BTW Al occassionally graces us with his presence on this list. Pretty hard to do for him as he stays really busy. Still there is no better source for info on the record biz than Al. You ask him a question and he will answer you. Very humble guy for a rock star. Who the heck is Hawkwind - Oh boy is that a can of worms. HW has been around seemingly forever. They are space rock giants. Lemmy of Motorhead was an original Hawkie. Monster Magnet's Dave Wyndorf is a huge HW fan. I have a couple of their live cd's Chronicles of the Black Sword and Live '79. Bottom line, these guys can play a ton and they rock a lot harder than you might imagine. HW'ers can give you great album recommendations but I would suggest one of the live ones first. You may be pleasantly surprised. As near as I can tell the most consistent thing about HW is Dave Brock, only guy (I think) that has been thru every incarnation of this band. Fave BOC releases - Well this is always the subject of great debate on this list. For me Secret Treaties is the top of the mountian for studio albums. Feet/Knees for official live releases. There are quite a few boots out there, pretty expensive stuff. The Thing is one such and its a killer two cd set. Fave songs would be anything and everything off ST, Golden Age of Leather, Lips in the Hills, The Vigil, Joan Crawford, Take me Away, Perfect Water, Teen Archer and Harvest Moon. BTW you know they have a new album called Heaven Forbid. If you don't have it GET IT! A few odds and ends - Buck wears dark clothes on stage now and no longer sports a 'stache. Eric's hair is shorter and he looks younger than he did in '75. Danny Miranda has been playing bass for them for a few years and the guy can absolutely pound it. Alan Lanier, well Alan can still play but now looks likes he's 105 years old. Don't recall if Bobby Rondinelli is back behind the drums. This past spring Alan got sick and took a break. Al Pitrelli (brilliant guitarist for Savatage) filled in for him on keys and Rythm guitar. I missed this show :-(. About the list - Everyone here is a good person. There are all kinds of people who hang out here. Amongst the HW' fans you'll find people that know almost anything about HW's career. John Swartz is editor of the BOC FAQ (frequently asked questions). John keeps it updated and timely. It may take a while to get through it but trust me you have a question the answer is probpably there. Here's the rundown on a few of the "characters" that hang out here. Steve Swann - Great guy and here from the beginning. Whenever there is a problem or blame to be laid, it finds its way to Steve doorstep. You'll see the phrase "Blame it on Steve Swann" quite often. Theo - Plays guitar in a band, loves BOC and positively hates Rush. Guy has started more anti-Rush threads than anybody. Never mention Rush around Theo. We keep him on medication but it dosen't always work. Paul - Mr. Gov't Mule! We talk about a lot of bands here though we shouldn't. Paul knows GM like the back of his hand. If you haven't heard of these guys, you will. Awesome group. Torgo, the Lurker - Pops in occassionally, contributes meaningful dialog or absolute insanity. You'll know when Torgo is in the house. There are many many more good folks most with extensive knowledge and musical experience. So don't be afraid to ask questions. Well that it from this peanut gallery. I'll be signing off BOC-L for a while. Moving to a new company (result of an acquisition) and will have new e-mail addie to work with. Have fun folks, do behave and keep on rocking. L8er Ghost in the Ruins NP - King's X s/t (The biggest KX fan in the world) "When a nice clean brain tumbles to the dirty street to lie among the discarded wrappers and spat out gum wads of wickedness, you can't just pick it and wash it off with soap and water; you gotta think it clean from the inside out." - The Tick From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Fri Jun 25 12:16:50 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 17:16:50 +0100 Subject: BOC: FESTIVAL DATES Message-ID: The Wisconsin Rock Festival features BOC on 15 July and Gov't Mule on July 16th. BOC are also scheduled to appear at Itchycoo Park99 In August. Full details will be in the e-zine Tour Dates section on Sunday 27 July. -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com "Never Judge A Man (Until You're Standing In His Shoes)" From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Fri Jun 25 13:25:32 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:25:32 -0700 Subject: New to the list Message-ID: > > Sounds like a lot of Hawkwind fans out there. I guess I'll have to > give them a listen myself. Anybody recommend a good starting album? Personally, I have two albums ("Space Ritual" and (I think its called) "Silver Machine" and am still unconvinced. Just not my cup of tea I guess.. I still keep my eye open for one of the later efforts or perhaps the "Live Chronicles" (guessing at title once again..) before completely writing them off. > > So what about the BOC fans? Any of you guys out there? Come on, > tell me your favorite albums, and songs. Tell me something about > Susie Dear, that I didn't already know. Who has seen them the most > in concert around here? I realize I am probably initiating > conversations that have already taken place before I joined, but I am > very interested in finding out what other people think. Most of the > people around here haven't even heard of BOC. Then I play them > "Don't Fear the Reaper" and they say, "oh yeah, I've heard that song > before!" So I need some comradery. Any takers? Ok, you asked for it.. 1st concert: October '74 (I believe it was the Secret Treaties tour.. I remember seeing them again the following year and Eric saying to the audience, "We're recording live tonight for our upcoming live album so everyone make alot of noise!". We did.. (no song from that show made it onto the album OYFOOYK) I have seen the approximately 18 - 20 times since then. I was a proud owner of the original lyric sheets (printed on lined green computer paper) which you could send away for just an SASE (as advertised on my copy of Secret Treaties). Damn but I wish I knew whatever happened to those.. Favorite Album: "Secret Treaties" with "Cultosaurus Erectus" being a close second and my favorite among what I consider to be the "latter days" of BOC (Post AOF, I guess). I give "Imaginos" honorable mention here.. I would possibly put in the #1 slot but its not really a true BOC album (see the FAQ). Favorite song: Thats tough... "Career of Evil", "Black Blade", "Shooting Shark", "Blue Oyster Cult" (the re-working of "The Subhuman" that appears on "Imaginos"), "Mistress of the Salmon Salt" ..and damn it.. Mind fade! Whats the first song on side 2 of Mirrors?, you know, "I've got a camera.. and a lead tight alibi"... Can't think of it for the life of me though its a one of their greatest, IMO. Help me out here! I got to meet Eric, Buck, Joe and Allen after a show in San Diego around, oh '90 - 92" (when Joe was still in the band, anyway.., what year did he leave?) Greatest BOC moment? 1975, being mesmerized by BOC (and certain chemicals) during the final part of "Flaming Telepaths", (".. and the joke's on YOU!) that seemed to go on forever and completely blew me away.. One of my most intense musical moments ever which I will always remember.. JB From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Fri Jun 25 13:28:08 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:28:08 -0400 Subject: OFF: Gov't Mule (was Re: New to the list) In-Reply-To: <92F17953B9@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: At 02:11 PM 6/24/99 -0400, you wrote: >> From: Brian Halligan >> >> I've been putting in long hours at work lately, so no chance to catch the >> Mule. I'm still hoping to catch their outdoor show here in Rochester next >> month. >> >> Brian > >What's the story on that gig? I hear it's a free show? > >theo All I know is the date and place. It's very possible it's a free show. I'll have to look into that. I'm surprised they didn't try to get in on the Syracuse Blues Fest. They could have had Savoy Brown open for them! Or vice-versa. Brian BTW, Savoy Brown has a new album out. Don't know the lineup beyond Simmons though. From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Fri Jun 25 18:25:18 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (owen) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 17:25:18 -0500 Subject: OFF: Gov't Mule (was Re: New to the list) Message-ID: Brian Halligan wrote: > At 02:11 PM 6/24/99 -0400, you wrote: > >> From: Brian Halligan > >> > >> I've been putting in long hours at work lately, so no chance to catch the > >> Mule. I'm still hoping to catch their outdoor show here in Rochester next > >> month. > >> > >> Brian > > > >What's the story on that gig? I hear it's a free show? > > > >theo > > All I know is the date and place. It's very possible it's a free show. > I'll have to look into that. I'm surprised they didn't try to get in on > the Syracuse Blues Fest. They could have had Savoy Brown open for them! > Or vice-versa. > > Brian > > BTW, Savoy Brown has a new album out. Don't know the lineup beyond Simmons > though. How is Gov't Mule? The only time I actually heard them was when they played live on WBCN in Boston about 4 years ago. I remember thinking they sounded strangely a little like Black Sabbath, though less 'cheesey heavy metal'-ish, and I guess more blues-based. I liked them, went looking for an album, and could find none. I then heard nothing about them until they were brought up a month or so ago on this list. They must have had some popularity though to have been on 'BCN, an alternative-rock station held tightly within the tendrils of a inconceivably mammoth corporate monster. From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Fri Jun 25 18:44:35 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:44:35 -0400 Subject: OFF: Gov't Mule (was Re: New to the list) In-Reply-To: <377401CE.426D0D86@softhome.net> Message-ID: owen wrote: > How is Gov't Mule? The only time I actually heard them was when they played >live on WBCN in Boston about 4 years ago. I remember thinking they sounded >strangely a little like Black Sabbath, They covered War Pigs on their latest live album, believe it or not! They're a very blues-based power trio whose guitarist (Warren Haynes) and bassist (Allen Woody) were once with the Allman Bros. Band. Warren wrote Soulshine for the Bros. I only have their latest, "Live...With a Little Help From Our Friends" and it's pretty amazing. Guests include Marc Ford (ex- Black Crowes), Bernie Worell (master of P-Funk keys), and Derek Trucks among others. They also have two studio albums and another live album. I was able to find some of their CDs in the big chains, Circuit City, Waves, etc. It might take a little looking around though. Brian From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Fri Jun 25 14:47:20 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:47:20 +0000 Subject: New to the list Message-ID: > >So what about the BOC fans? Any of you guys out there? Come on, > >tell me your favorite albums, and songs. It would probably be too hard for me to pick a favorite album, although the one I've probably listened to the most is Spectres. My favorite song, and I've never been able to explain this -- it just happened -- is FIREWORKS! -- Nick From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Fri Jun 25 14:54:32 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:54:32 +0000 Subject: New to the list Message-ID: > I got to meet Eric, Buck, Joe and Allen after a show in San Diego around, oh > '90 - 92" (when Joe was still in the band, anyway.., what year did he > leave?) Joe in 90-92?! I don't know about that. Joe was probably still doing Cult Brothers at the time. When I saw BOC around that same time period (When they were promoting their "upcoming album 'Harvest Moon'"), the bassist was that guy who co-wrote Still Burnin' -- I can picture him but the name escapes me. -- Nick From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Fri Jun 25 18:56:50 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:56:50 -0700 Subject: New to the list Message-ID: Ok, would you believe 88-90? I dunno.. the years start to run together after a while. It was after AL left but before Joe left and around the start of the time they started playing smaller venues. JB > Joe in 90-92?! I don't know about that. Joe was probably still doing > Cult Brothers at the time. When I saw BOC around that same time > period (When they were promoting their "upcoming album 'Harvest > Moon'"), the bassist was that guy who co-wrote Still Burnin' -- I can > picture him but the name escapes me. > > -- Nick > From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jun 25 20:51:55 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 20:51:55 EDT Subject: OFF: Gov't Mule (was Re: New to the list) Message-ID: In a message dated 6/25/99 1:28:45 PM, bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET writes: << BTW, Savoy Brown has a new album out. Don't know the lineup beyond Simmons though. >> aw, that's okay...that lineup always changed constantly, dinnit? "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jun 25 21:00:43 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:00:43 EDT Subject: OFF: Gov't Mule (was Re: New to the list) Message-ID: In a message dated 6/25/99 5:17:38 PM, antisol at SOFTHOME.NET writes: << They must have had some popularity though to have been on 'BCN, an alternative-rock station held tightly within the tendrils of a inconceivably mammoth corporate monster. >> ================ wbcn's "alternative rock" status began in '95, when they felt it would profit them to do so more than persisting in their being a dinosaur..."the rock revolution" they called it, and perhaps they still do...as far as i can tell they ENJOY the embrace of those tendrils... and IMHO if polkas were to become the next big thing, they'd be happy to be inflicting "the polka revolution" upon their listenership, of whom i am not one. oh he's just so goldurn cranky.... (grin) "<>" From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Jun 25 23:01:41 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 23:01:41 EDT Subject: OFF: "MyShopNow" (or whatever) --- the $5 CDs Message-ID: Remember them? Well, they came through. It took a bit, but I got my order, and they are indeed the real legit CDs. And they're even from the '93 FZ Approved Masters series (Frank Zappa). I'm goin' back now to see what else I can steel (CDNOW are also currently having a 30% off Imports sale). Chuck From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Sat Jun 26 03:41:40 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (owen) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 02:41:40 -0500 Subject: OFF: Gov't Mule (was Re: New to the list) Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 6/25/99 5:17:38 PM, antisol at SOFTHOME.NET writes: > > << They must have had some popularity though to have been on 'BCN, > an alternative-rock station held tightly within the tendrils of a > inconceivably > mammoth corporate monster. > >> > ================ > wbcn's "alternative rock" status began in '95, when they felt it would profit > them to do so more than persisting in their being a dinosaur..."the rock > revolution" they called it, and perhaps they still do...as far as i can tell > they ENJOY the embrace of those tendrils... > and IMHO if polkas were to become the next big thing, they'd be happy to be > inflicting "the polka revolution" upon their listenership, of whom i am not > one. > > oh he's just so goldurn cranky.... > (grin) > "<>" It used to be a contemporary/classic rock station, and not a bad one at that. Then it was bought by Infinity broadcasting, which was then bought by CBS, which was then bought by Disney (or something like that. I don't remember it too clearly because I wasn't paying much attention while it happened). It somehow became Boston's captain of Alternative Music overnight, even though the Top 10 stations had been playing all that crap for several years. From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sat Jun 26 08:37:54 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 13:37:54 +0100 Subject: OFF: GOV'T MULE/ALLMAN BROS Message-ID: As well as "Soulshine", Warren Haynes and Allen Woody also have credits with Gregg Allman and Jack Pearson on "Sailin' Cross The Devils's Sea", former set opener and still an occasional visitor in the live set. Here's a sample of the set lists the ABB are playing this summer: 6/18/99 NEW WORLD MUSIC THEATRE TINLEY PARK, IL Support: Curtis Stigers Don?t Want You No More Cross To Bear Don?t Keep Me Wondering Good Times Don?t Fade Away Please Call Home Southbound Black Hearted Woman J. J.?s Alley BREAK Seven Turns (acoustic) Melissa (acoustic) Sailin? ?Cross The Devil?s Sea Blue Sky Statesboro Blues Les Brers in A Minor Revival (yesssssss!) Encore: Ramblin? Man One Way Out No One To Run With 6/22/99 THE PALACE LOUISVILLE, KY Support: Curtis Stigers True Gravity Ain?t Wastin? Time No More You Don?t Love Me Good Times Don?t Fade Away Southbound What?s Done Is Done Blue Sky BREAK Seven Turns (acoustic) Melissa (acoustic) Jessica Change My Way Of Living Dreams I?ll Never See End Of The Line In Memory of Elizabeth Reed Revival Encore: One Way Out No One To Run With -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com "Never Judge A Man (Until You're Standing In His Shoes)" From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sat Jun 26 09:39:53 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 14:39:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: TICKET PRICES Message-ID: I just received a press release from the promoters of this years Ozzfest; I quote, "OZZFEST 99 - UK Earls Court, London 14 & 15 August The last ever (yeah, right) performance by the original Black Sabbath, also featuring Machine Head, Type O Negative, Coal Chamber and many more. Tickets ?32.50 + ?3.50 booking fee or ?28.50 plus ?3.00 booking fee (ouch!) Plus postage ?3.35 special delivery or Recorded delivery ?0.86 (they're taking the piss now, surely?) Credit card hotline 0121-780-4133" What are these people on? Me, I'm off to see Anathema for seven quid. Stuart NP Allman Brothers Band - 2nd Set -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com "Never Judge A Man (Until You're Standing In His Shoes)" From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Fri Jun 25 21:55:14 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:55:14 -0400 Subject: OFF: Gov't Mule (was Re: New to the list) In-Reply-To: <1054f522.24a57e2b@aol.com> Message-ID: At 08:51 PM 6/25/99 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 6/25/99 1:28:45 PM, bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET writes: > ><< >BTW, Savoy Brown has a new album out. Don't know the lineup beyond Simmons >though. > >>> > >aw, that's okay...that lineup always changed constantly, dinnit? > >"<>" Yeah, at least I know Hawkwind's current lineup, right? That ought to count for something. :-) From flossbac at NLCI.COM Sat Jun 26 12:48:49 1999 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:48:49 -0500 Subject: attention Jim Collins! Message-ID: Hello Jim: I've lost your email address, so I'm contacting you through the list.... do you still have copies of the Hawkwind "Elf and the Hawk" CD? How much should I send you and where to? John Majka flossbac at nlci.com From Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU Sat Jun 26 12:49:48 1999 From: Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU (Doug Bates) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:49:48 -0500 Subject: 1001 mails in my Inbox. Message-ID: >>I think the people I owe stuff to are Clemens, Rocker22, and Andrew >>Apold. >>Are any of you guys still there and do you remember? I have copied >>an >>Arthur Brown CD for someone and a stack of other stuff - I spent this >>morning unpacking the boxes of dusty stuff my girlfriend packed while >>I was >>in hospital and I found those addresses and other stuff. Who was it >>was to >>get my 1996 HW tour teeshirt > >I'm still here. Not sure what you owe me unless it was part of the > >old tape trade > > Yeh, I think you were the next person on in the tape trade, > or the person > before. Does "Stand for the Fire Demon" mean anything to you? > Hi Chris, Hope your get back to normal soon. :-) The above song was on a tape I sent you from the first boc-l tape swap. I'm not sure what you were going to tape for me tho. Probably not Aurthor Brown as I have most of his records already. Wasn't it the punkish band with the song about leaving Chicago from Miami on a train?? It was the last song on side one of the tape you sent me. (Its so comforting to remember trivial details, yet forget a password or an errand my wife ask me to do :) take care, -- Doug Bates From ted at ALGER.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Jun 26 14:31:17 1999 From: ted at ALGER.DEMON.CO.UK (Ted Alger) Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 19:31:17 +0100 Subject: New to the list In-Reply-To: <6D986111E966D211A65E00A0C96E961108FB94@C2> Message-ID: ACTUALLY..... would you believe Joe left in '86? (yes, it's been that long)... I saw him on the Club Ninja tour in Germany about 2 weeks before he left..... and the guy/bass player who co-wrote "Still Burnin'" would be Jon Rogers.... Ted (have I achieved lurker status yet?) >Ok, would you believe 88-90? I dunno.. the years start to run together after >a while. It was after AL left but before Joe left and around the start of >the time they started playing smaller venues. > >JB > >> Joe in 90-92?! I don't know about that. Joe was probably still doing >> Cult Brothers at the time. When I saw BOC around that same time >> period (When they were promoting their "upcoming album 'Harvest >> Moon'"), the bassist was that guy who co-wrote Still Burnin' -- I can >> picture him but the name escapes me. >> >> -- Nick >> From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Sun Jun 27 18:20:50 1999 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:20:50 -0500 Subject: OFF: SALAMANDER tour Message-ID: I spoke to Eric Wivinus the other night while at a Skye Klad gig. He told me Salamander will be playing the Insidious music festival, September 18th I think. Also at that time they are doing a small tour with a Japanese psych band, the dates are all on the east coast except for a Minneapolis date. From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Jun 27 18:45:36 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:45:36 EDT Subject: OFF: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" Set-List Message-ID: "Space Does Not Care", Sat, June 26, 1999, 88.3 KUCR 1. Hawkwind--Brainstorm (Doremi) 2. Add N to X--King Wasp 3. Zappa/Mothers--Wowie Zowie 4. Farflung--Solar Electric/Open Your Mouth 5. Psychic TV--Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun 6. Can--Halleluwah (Cannibalism edit) (dedicated to Noah in Pomona) 7. Melting Euphoria--Harbour of Infinity 8. Subarachnoid Space--Repetitive Smile 9. Amon Duul II--Deutsch Nepal (dedicated to Bitch Goddess, Pomona) 10.Hawkwind--Sonic Attack (Hawklords Live) 11.Helios Creed--Lactating Purple 12.Zappa/Mothers--Didja Get Any Onya? 13.Residents--The Coming of the Crow 14.Blue Oyster Cult--Dominance and Submission (Secret Treaties) 15.Black Sabbath--Black Sabbath (dedicated to Chris Odorous, Pomona) 16.Pink Faries--Do It (studio demo) 17.Voodoo Warriors of Love--Sweat 18.Hawkwind--Light Specific Data 19.Bowie (w/B. Eno)--All Saints 20.Nik Turner--Space Station Announcement Chuck From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sun Jun 27 20:02:49 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 01:02:49 +0100 Subject: New to the list In-Reply-To: <6D986111E966D211A65E00A0C96E961108FB92@C2> Message-ID: At 10:25 25/06/99 -0700, JB wrote: >Greatest BOC moment? 1975, being mesmerized by BOC (and certain chemicals) >during the final part of "Flaming Telepaths", (".. and the joke's on YOU!) >that seemed to go on forever and completely blew me away.. One of my most >intense musical moments ever which I will always remember.. > Pretty similar for me - without the chemicals (unfortunately?): First BOC gig, same period, their first actual tour of the UK, Manchester Free Trade Hall; a lot of the detail has blurred by now, but I remember them kicking off with "Stairway to the Stars", I remember "ME262" & the 5 guitars, but most of all, that refrain of "..and the jokes on YOU!" haunted me for ages - and I never understood why Stairway & Telepaths weren't on OYFOOYK. (Note: I never even knew what the title of "Flaming Telepaths" was until I eventually bought ST a year or two later!) Cheers, ChrisW From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sun Jun 27 20:05:49 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 01:05:49 +0100 Subject: New to the list In-Reply-To: <199906252243.SAA30501@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: At 18:47 25/06/99 +0000, Nick wrote: >> >So what about the BOC fans? Any of you guys out there? Come on, >> >tell me your favorite albums, and songs. > > >It would probably be too hard for me to pick a favorite album, >although the one I've probably listened to the most is Spectres. My >favorite song, and I've never been able to explain this -- it just >happened -- is FIREWORKS! > It'd certainly go on my personal "Best OF.." tape, and a good contrast to my other Spectres favourite: "Golden Age Of Leather" (Perhaps controversially, I WOULDN'T include "Godzilla") ChrisW From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Jun 28 14:19:00 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:19:00 -0700 Subject: OFF: SALAMANDER tour Message-ID: On Sun, 27 Jun 1999 17:20:50 -0500, Dan Witt wrote: >Salamander will be playing the Insidious music festival, >September 18th I think. Also at that time they are doing a small tour >with a Japanese psych band, the dates are all on the east coast except >for a Minneapolis date. Here's some more details ... The full lineup of the tour is Overhang Party (Japan - highly-recommended spacious, tranced-out heavy psych; this tour is going to feature the fantastic Kurihara of White Heaven, Marble Sheep and Ghost on lead guitar), Salamander (Minneapolis) and Primordial Undermind (SF Bay Area; the reason why I'll obviously be posting more about the tour as dates are lined up). We should be hitting most of the major cities in the rough triangle bounded by Minneapolis, Philadelphia and Boston, including Chicago, Cleveland, Madison, maybe Detroit and maybe Rochester or elsewhere in upstate New York. I know that the Empty Bottle in Chicago on 9/28 is confirmed, as is the Insidious Spectacle festival in Philadelphia: INSIDIOUS SPECTACLE Thurston Moore w/ AALY Trio (Mats Gustafsson, Ken Vandermark) Bevis Frond Strapping Fieldhands Major Stars Asuza Plane Pelt Alan Licht Overhang Party (Japan) Jemeel Moodoc Trio Test Michael Hurley Tono-Bungay Doldrums Salamander Primordial Undermind God is My Co-Pilot Cul de Sac Saturday September 18th 1999 I'll be hoping to see some of the northeast listmembers as we make our way through the territory! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Mon Jun 28 11:12:18 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 08:12:18 -0700 Subject: New to the list Message-ID: Wow.. time does fly, doesn't it? I was way off.. Granted, this was back when BOC was still big enough that, when they played the smaller venues, they were billed as Soft White Underbelly.. So, must have been '85 or so.. heh... JB > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Alger [mailto:ted at ALGER.DEMON.CO.UK] > Sent: Saturday, June 26, 1999 11:31 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: New to the list > > > ACTUALLY..... would you believe Joe left in '86? (yes, it's been that > long)... I saw him on the Club Ninja tour in Germany about 2 weeks > before he left..... > > and the guy/bass player who co-wrote "Still Burnin'" would be > Jon Rogers.... > > Ted > (have I achieved lurker status yet?) > > >Ok, would you believe 88-90? I dunno.. the years start to > run together after > >a while. It was after AL left but before Joe left and around > the start of > >the time they started playing smaller venues. > > > >JB > > > >> Joe in 90-92?! I don't know about that. Joe was probably > still doing > >> Cult Brothers at the time. When I saw BOC around that same time > >> period (When they were promoting their "upcoming album 'Harvest > >> Moon'"), the bassist was that guy who co-wrote Still > Burnin' -- I can > >> picture him but the name escapes me. > >> > >> -- Nick > >> > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Jun 28 14:27:42 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 14:27:42 EDT Subject: BOC on VH1 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990628111900.008a4630@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: According to sources on the AOL board, BOC's recent Pittsburgh show was taped for a segment on VH1's Where are they Now, which will air in August. Said show was a killer, according to reviews posted there. Can't wait to see this one! theo From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Mon Jun 28 22:34:00 1999 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:34:00 -0500 Subject: OFF: International Lyrics Server Message-ID: It's back! Sort of . . . http://www.lyrics.ch/index.htm Welcome back to lyrics.ch, THE INTERNATIONAL LYRICS SERVER. Through an arrangement with FOX AGENCY INTERNATIONAL we are working to secure the authority from the rights owners to bring you lyrics to thousands of your favorite songs. Individual songs will be posted as each approval is granted. ..In the meantime, you can search on Artist, Song Title, Album and full text to locate songs and recordings that interest you. http://www.newsweek.com/nw-srv/tnw/today/cs/cs03su_1.htm >From the Newsweek issue dated July 5, 1999 MUSIC Huh? What Did He Say? The internet's top source for pop-music lyrics has returned from a five-month legal lapse. The International Lyrics Server (www.lyrics.ch) first posted the lyrics of 116,000 songs in 1997. But a complaint from the National Music Publishers Association pulled the private library's plug in January. The two have since settled. Now users can only type phrases to search for corresponding artists, songs or albums. So if ILS doesn't match what you think R.E.M.'s Michael Stipe mumbled, you're lyrically out of luck. From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Tue Jun 29 01:42:39 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 05:42:39 +0000 Subject: BOC on VH1 Message-ID: > According to sources on the AOL board, BOC's recent Pittsburgh show > was taped for a segment on VH1's Where are they Now, which will air > in August. Said show was a killer, according to reviews posted > there. Can't wait to see this one! > > theo I'm beggin' anyone who gets a date on this thing to let us know as soon as possible. I really don't wanna miss this one! -- Nick From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jun 29 07:23:29 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 07:23:29 EDT Subject: BOC on VH1 In-Reply-To: <199906290936.FAA16720@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: > > According to sources on the AOL board, BOC's recent Pittsburgh show > > was taped for a segment on VH1's Where are they Now, which will air > > in August. Said show was a killer, according to reviews posted > > there. Can't wait to see this one! > > > > theo > > I'm beggin' anyone who gets a date on this thing to let us know as > soon as possible. I really don't wanna miss this one! > > -- Nick I'll double-check, but I think it's supposed to be 1 Aug. At any rate, it'll be heavily advertised on VH-1. Hmm...they probably have a web site? And you are correct, sir, this is not to be missed. By all accounts, BOC was hittin' the note that night... theo From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Jun 29 10:30:48 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:30:48 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anti-piracy encryption article Message-ID: June 29, 1999 CDs To Have Anti-Piracy Feature By The Associated Press SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- The latest round of portable digital music players will soon be available in stores nationwide, equipped with security features designed to prevent piracy, designers say. Members of the Secure Digital Music Initiative announced Monday they had completed design specifications for the Walkman-like devices they claim will thwart online piracy. On a yet-to-be determined date, new CDs released by the major record producers will be digitally encrypted to prevent piracy, and the digital players will need to be upgraded to accept the new music, the Secure Digital Music Initiative said. ``SDMI will enable the future of music and today's announcement signals to consumers that this future is coming quickly. This future holds the promise that consumers will have access to vast amounts of exciting new content with a new level of portability,'' SDMI director Leonardo Chiariglione said in a statement. Diamond Multimedia, which makes the popular and controversial Rio portable digital music player, said it will comply with the new standards. The original version of the Rio player has served as a focal point for the music piracy debate because it doesn't require copyright protection to play music using MP3 technology. New devices, available as early as Christmas, would initially support all current digital music formats, including MP3. After the new digital standard is implemented and the machines' software is upgraded, the only new songs that work on the machines will be ones that are digitally encoded with copyright protections. Even with the new protections, the players will still be able to play old music already illegally copied using the MP3 format, a major concession by the recording industry. Future versions of Rio players will be completely SDMI-compliant, said Lorraine Comstock, of Diamond's RioPort division. A spokeswoman for Milpitas, Calif.-based Creative Labs said its Nomad digital music player, to hit store shelves in July, will also comply with the SDMI standard. Industry members adopted the design specifications at a conference in Los Angeles earlier this month. They are under technical review and are to be ratified and made public by July 8. Analysts said the security features, however cumbersome, were inevitable. ``I think for the traditional music industry to back this, there has obviously going to have to be some fairly rigorous copyright protection,'' said Clay Ryder, an analyst for Zona Research. He suspects computer-savvy hackers will try to find a way around the security features, but the chore will prove labor-intensive. ``Nothing's 100 percent crack-proof, but you would go through a hell of a lot of effort to descramble something,'' Ryder said. The SDMI members include each of the big five record labels -- BMG Entertainment, EMI Recorded Music, Sony Music Entertainment, Universal Music Group and Warner Music Group -- all looking to capitalize on the growing digital music marketplace while protecting artist and label copyrights. The Recording Industry Association of America lost a suit earlier this month to halt sales of the Rio -- a portable machine that carries about an hour's worth of CD-quality MP3 music on a computer chip. Comstock thinks the design specifications will help make popular music available to online consumers. ``For the consumers the SDMI specification is a good thing because today you cannot buy music online from well known artists,'' Comstock said. Currently, most of the music available for sale on the Internet consists of lesser-known artists. From senator at UGCS.CALTECH.EDU Tue Jun 29 13:11:52 1999 From: senator at UGCS.CALTECH.EDU (Bill Bradley) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:11:52 -0700 Subject: BOC on VH1 In-Reply-To: <199906290936.FAA16720@junior.srt.net> from at "Jun 29, 1999 05:42:39 am" Message-ID: > > According to sources on the AOL board, BOC's recent Pittsburgh show > > was taped for a segment on VH1's Where are they Now, which will air > > in August. Said show was a killer, according to reviews posted > > there. Can't wait to see this one! The show was good, but not awesome. I suspect all we'll see on VH1 is the Godzilla/Burning/Reaper show closing. For someone who hadn't seen BOC live before, they may have been blown away (I brought friend who'd never seen them before and he was very impressed, just disappointed that they hadn't played some of the less popular tracks. In the last few times they'd played the Rib Fest in Pittsburgh they played In Thee, Shooting Shark, Monsters and Lips in the Hills. This show was an ETL set with Harvest Moon as the only new song) Still, it would be nice to see them on TV. Bill From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Jun 29 15:43:33 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 20:43:33 +0100 Subject: Welcome to the Future Updated Message-ID: Hi there, just a quick line to point out that the Welcome to the Future website has been (at last) updated. The KLF/Silver Machine release is mentioned and the gig list updated to include the summer festivals. The Liquid Len interview has now been published. cheers, Nick From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Tue Jun 29 16:44:59 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:44:59 -0500 Subject: OFF: Anti-piracy encryption article Message-ID: Brian Halligan wrote: > June 29, 1999 > CDs To Have Anti-Piracy Feature > > By The Associated Press > SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- The latest round of portable digital music players will > soon be available in stores nationwide, equipped with security features > designed to prevent piracy, designers say. > Members of the Secure Digital Music Initiative announced Monday they had > completed design specifications for the Walkman-like devices they claim will > thwart online piracy. > On a yet-to-be determined date, new CDs released by the major record producers > will be digitally encrypted to prevent piracy, and the digital players will > need to be upgraded to accept the new music, the Secure Digital Music > Initiative said. > ``SDMI will enable the future of music and today's announcement signals to > consumers that this future is coming quickly. This future holds the promise > that consumers will have access to vast amounts of exciting new content with a > new level of portability,'' SDMI director Leonardo Chiariglione said in a > statement. > Diamond Multimedia, which makes the popular and controversial Rio portable > digital music player, said it will comply with the new standards. The original > version of the Rio player has served as a focal point for the music piracy > debate because it doesn't require copyright protection to play music using MP3 > technology. > New devices, available as early as Christmas, would initially support all > current digital music formats, including MP3. After the new digital standard is > implemented and the machines' software is upgraded, the only new songs that > work on the machines will be ones that are digitally encoded with copyright > protections. > Even with the new protections, the players will still be able to play old music > already illegally copied using the MP3 format, a major concession by the > recording industry. > Future versions of Rio players will be completely SDMI-compliant, said Lorraine > Comstock, of Diamond's RioPort division. A spokeswoman for Milpitas, > Calif.-based Creative Labs said its Nomad digital music player, to hit store > shelves in July, will also comply with the SDMI standard. > Industry members adopted the design specifications at a conference in Los > Angeles earlier this month. They are under technical review and are to be > ratified and made public by July 8. > Analysts said the security features, however cumbersome, were inevitable. > ``I think for the traditional music industry to back this, there has obviously > going to have to be some fairly rigorous copyright protection,'' said Clay > Ryder, an analyst for Zona Research. > He suspects computer-savvy hackers will try to find a way around the security > features, but the chore will prove labor-intensive. > ``Nothing's 100 percent crack-proof, but you would go through a hell of a lot > of effort to descramble something,'' Ryder said. > The SDMI members include each of the big five record labels -- BMG > Entertainment, EMI Recorded Music, Sony Music Entertainment, Universal Music > Group and Warner Music Group -- all looking to capitalize on the growing > digital music marketplace while protecting artist and label copyrights. > The Recording Industry Association of America lost a suit earlier this month to > halt sales of the Rio -- a portable machine that carries about an hour's worth > of CD-quality MP3 music on a computer chip. > Comstock thinks the design specifications will help make popular music > available to online consumers. Huzzah! the planet is saved!!! From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Jun 29 16:11:31 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 16:11:31 EDT Subject: OFF: Anti-piracy encryption article Message-ID: In a message dated 6/29/99 3:50:05 PM, antisol at SOFTHOME.NET writes: << Comstock thinks the design specifications will help make popular music > available to online consumers. >> and here's today's 50 point bonus question, contestants: what is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT word in this sentence? "<>" From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Jun 29 16:18:03 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 16:18:03 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anti-piracy encryption article In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: => In a message dated 6/29/99 3:50:05 PM, antisol at SOFTHOME.NET writes: => => << Comstock thinks the design specifications will help make popular music => > available to online consumers. => >> => => and here's today's 50 point bonus question, contestants: => what is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT word in this sentence? => "<>" "Thinks?" Cheers, Paul. NP: Hawkwind, _Space Ritual_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Jun 29 16:31:34 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 16:31:34 EDT Subject: OFF: Anti-piracy encryption article Message-ID: In a message dated 6/29/99 4:19:05 PM, paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU writes: <<=> => << Comstock thinks the design specifications will help make popular music => > available to online consumers. => >> => => and here's today's 50 point bonus question, contestants: => what is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT word in this sentence? => "<>" "Thinks?" >> (insert harsh buzzer sound) (audience makes "awwwww" sound) sorry, that's NOT the word we're looking for!! anyone else? what is the corporate motivation behind all this and from WHOM do corporations most benefit? who, in the context of this article, they are not benefitting from as MUCH as they'd LIKE? we'll be right back after these messages... "<>" From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Jun 29 17:08:39 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 17:08:39 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anti-piracy encryption article Message-ID: >In a message dated 6/29/99 4:19:05 PM, paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU writes: > ><<=> >=> << Comstock thinks the design specifications will help make popular music >=> > available to online consumers. >=> >> >=> >=> and here's today's 50 point bonus question, contestants: >=> what is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT word in this sentence? >=> "<>" > >"Thinks?" >>> > >(insert harsh buzzer sound) >(audience makes "awwwww" sound) >sorry, that's NOT the word we're looking for!! >anyone else? "popular" or "consumers" ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Jun 29 17:44:17 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 14:44:17 -0700 Subject: OFF: Anti-piracy encryption article Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 16:11:31 EDT, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: >In a message dated 6/29/99 3:50:05 PM, antisol at SOFTHOME.NET writes: > ><< Comstock thinks the design specifications will help make popular music >> available to online consumers. >>> > >and here's today's 50 point bonus question, contestants: >what is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT word in this sentence? I don't know what the single most important word IS, but I know that it ISN'T: "music" -Doug ceres at sirius.com From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Tue Jun 29 18:21:37 1999 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 15:21:37 -0700 Subject: HW: Reissues Message-ID: >From the latest Artist Shop newsletter: "PRE-ORDER IMPORT FULL LENGTH HAWKWIND-IT IS THE BUSINESS OF THE... $17.95 Reissue of the legendary English prog/ space rock group's 1994 album 'It Is The Business Of The Future To Be Dangerous'. HAWKWIND-LEVITATION $17.95 Reissue of the legendary English prog/ space rock group's 1980 album, one of the few they cut with Ginger Baker as their drummer. HAWKWIND-LIVE IN 1979 $17.95 Reissue of the legendary English prog/ space rock group's 1980 concert album. HAWKWIND-PALACE SPRINGS $17.95 Reissue of the legendary English prog/ space rock group's 1991 live album featuring reworkings of a couple of old classics plus a few exclusive cuts. 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Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop.com phone: 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 SUPPORT THE INDEPENDENT ARTIST!!! ************************************************************** Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm" Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Jun 29 19:45:23 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 19:45:23 EDT Subject: OFF: Anti-piracy encryption article Message-ID: In a message dated 6/29/99 5:09:56 PM, mordru at FLITE.NET writes: <<> >(insert harsh buzzer sound) >(audience makes "awwwww" sound) >sorry, that's NOT the word we're looking for!! >anyone else? ========= "popular" or "consumers" =>> (murmuring amongst audience...) "well, mister moderu=" (annoyed)"that's MORDRU, cleve--" "heheh, of course, of course, isnt that what i just said? little touchy today, arent we, mister mooduro? flies in your cornflakes this morning?" (audience laughs) "well , we're gonna have to turn this one over to danielle, our lovely and scantily-clad hostess-- (wild cheers from audience) --and SHE can make the final decision!" (giggles) well, cleve, he got it HALF right, and he IS kinda cute (giggles); i say he gets the 50 points." (applause) "well, danielle has spoken, mister modemo-- (pissed) "that's MOR- " --today's 50 point bonus word was "consumers", and you're today's GRAND PRIZE WINNER on EMPTY YOUR WALLET!!! c'mon, let's hear a great big studio audience round of applause for mister maydemoo!" (wild cheers from audience) (cue closing theme) "and we hope you at home will join us again tomorrow for the show that tells you what your priorities are and expects you to pay for the privilege! here on... EMPTY YOUR WAL-AARRRHHHGGHH!!" (crumples to floor) (screams from audience) (standing behind cleve with baseball bat) "that's MORDRU, you rotten son of a bitch! MORDRU! MORD---" (screen goes blank) ====== "<>" From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Jun 29 23:29:39 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 23:29:39 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anti-piracy encryption article In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 07:45 PM 6/29/1999 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 6/29/99 5:09:56 PM, mordru at FLITE.NET writes: > ><<> >>(insert harsh buzzer sound) >>(audience makes "awwwww" sound) >>sorry, that's NOT the word we're looking for!! >>anyone else? >========= > >"popular" >or >"consumers" >=>> > >(murmuring amongst audience...) >"well, mister moderu=" This is even funnier if you know where the name "Mordru" comes from.... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From c.d.bates at SHU.AC.UK Wed Jun 30 05:40:22 1999 From: c.d.bates at SHU.AC.UK (chris bates) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:40:22 +0100 Subject: OFF: Anti-piracy encryption article In-Reply-To: Brian Halligan's message of "Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:30:48 -0400" Message-ID: Brian Halligan writes: > June 29, 1999 > SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- The latest round of portable digital music players will > soon be available in stores nationwide, equipped with security features > designed to prevent piracy, designers say. Isn't this nicely written. At first glance it appears to suggest that these features are there for our benefit. The music industry always argues that *piracy* is bad for listeners because it reduces sales and hence the amount of money that they can put into nurturing new talent like Steps. Of course most of their money (apart from that going up the noses of A and R men) goes into the established acts. Isn't it about time we had some new *product* from Phil Collins? > Members of the Secure Digital Music Initiative announced Monday they had > completed design specifications for the Walkman-like devices they claim will > thwart online piracy. They can claim whatever they like 'cause new formats can be developed that their technology won't work against :-) I rather suspect that the actions of the companies might be slightly... illegal. Copyright legislation for recorded music lets the purchaser of that music make back-up copies for security and for use in other formats. The laws make no comment about the format of those backups. If a CD is encrypted so that it can be recorded onto DAT or mini disc or cassette tape but _not_ into MP3 format then the music companies are restricting the rights of the owner of the CD. Additionally even if the encryption prevents CD to MP3 it cannot prevent CD to cassette to WAV to MP3, for instance. And, finally, it will have absolutely no effect upon the activities of genuine pirates and their CD pressing plants in some Asian countries. The only people affected will be fans who want to put a few tracks in a Rio for personal use to share some music on the 'net. > ``SDMI will enable the future of music and today's announcement signals to > consumers that this future is coming quickly. This future holds the promise > that consumers will have access to vast amounts of exciting new > content with a new level of portability,'' Loosely translated this means: *See, if everyone buys a player for a new format then we can re-re-release the REM back catalogue. Which would turn a tidy profit*. > New devices, available as early as Christmas, would initially support all Christmas eh? Why would they release a new format then? > implemented and the machines' software is upgraded, the only new songs that > work on the machines will be ones that are digitally encoded with copyright > protections. > Even with the new protections, the players will still be able to play old music > already illegally copied using the MP3 format Now how does the player know it's a new song with encryption or an old song without it? > all looking to capitalize on the growing > digital music marketplace while protecting artist and label > copyrights. Yeah, the big labels are so concerned about artists copyright! Why before you know it they'll be giving songwriters their publishing rights! > ``For the consumers the SDMI specification is a good thing because today you > cannot buy music online from well known artists,'' Comstock said. So if I point a Web browser at CD Now and buy a few discs then according to this bozo I'm not buying on-line!! If anyone wants to become an *analyst* on technology matters they should foolw this simple 2 step procedure: 1. stick your head up your arse 2. talk only about subjects that you don't understand. -- Chris Bates Lecturer School of Computing and Management Sciences Sheffield Hallam University c.d.bates at shu.ac.uk From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Wed Jun 30 07:17:08 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 21:17:08 +1000 Subject: Welcome to the Future Updated Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 879 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jun 30 07:42:59 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:42:59 +0100 Subject: Bikers festival Message-ID: Apparently this will be the night before the Buxton festival and will feature Hawkwind. Does anayone have details? FoFP From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Wed Jun 30 07:42:44 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:42:44 +0100 Subject: OFF: Bonus points. In-Reply-To: <199906300901.FAA01488@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >=> << Comstock thinks the design specifications will help make popular music >=> > available to online consumers. >=> >> >=> >=> and here's today's 50 point bonus question, contestants: >=> what is the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT word in this sentence? >=> "<>" Bzzzzzzzzz "popular" Gimme da points !! :) Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Wed Jun 30 08:01:32 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:01:32 +0100 Subject: OFF: MP3 players et al In-Reply-To: <199906300901.FAA01488@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: At 05:01 30/06/99 -0400, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 05:01:39 -0400 >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >Sender: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >From: Automatic digest processor >From: chris bates >Subject: Re: OFF: Anti-piracy encryption article >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Brian Halligan writes: > >> June 29, 1999 > >> SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- The latest round of portable digital music players will >> soon be available in stores nationwide, equipped with security features >> designed to prevent piracy, designers say. > >Isn't this nicely written. At first glance it appears to >suggest that these features are there for our benefit. The >music industry always argues that *piracy* is bad for listeners >because it reduces sales and hence the amount of money that >they can put into nurturing new talent like Steps. Of course >most of their money (apart from that going up the noses >of A and R men) goes into the established acts. Isn't it >about time we had some new *product* from Phil Collins? > >> Members of the Secure Digital Music Initiative announced Monday they had >> completed design specifications for the Walkman-like devices they claim will >> thwart online piracy. > How about us people who use assorted software to play music on our PeeCees ? is this going to affect users of WinAmp and other stuff, there are literally dozens of packages that play an incredible range of formats, I can only assume that there will be millions of users who like myself copy CD's onto MO and play them whilst at work, anyway all ya gotta do is plug the phones output into your souncard input and stream to disk !! I suspect the only way to make this work is to 'upgrade' RIO's and the like so they ONLY play encrypted format files, or am I not reading this properly, and as the owner of copyright material I for one would fight anything that stops anybody getting my music by darned near any means they want ! [big snip for brevity] . . . [end snip] >They can claim whatever they like 'cause new formats can be >developed that their technology won't work against :-) >So if I point a Web browser at CD Now and buy a few discs then >according to this bozo I'm not buying on-line!! If anyone wants >to become an *analyst* on technology matters they should foolw >this simple 2 step procedure: > 1. stick your head up your arse > 2. talk only about subjects that you don't understand. I've been getting paid for this for years :))))))) very interesting points made there Chris Cheers, Mark. (Who returneth to mid-lurk mode. . . Zzzzzzz) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Jun 30 08:16:35 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 08:16:35 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anti-piracy encryption article Message-ID: >Brian Halligan writes: > >> June 29, 1999 > >> SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- The latest round of portable digital music players will >> soon be available in stores nationwide, equipped with security features >> designed to prevent piracy, designers say. > >Isn't this nicely written. At first glance it appears to >suggest that these features are there for our benefit. The >music industry always argues that *piracy* is bad for listeners >because it reduces sales and hence the amount of money that >they can put into nurturing new talent like Steps. Of course >most of their money (apart from that going up the noses >of A and R men) goes into the established acts. Isn't it >about time we had some new *product* from Phil Collins? If anything, currently the mp3 market is dominated by bands that can't get much exposure otherwise... >They can claim whatever they like 'cause new formats can be >developed that their technology won't work against :-) I certainly hope so... >Additionally even if the encryption prevents CD to MP3 it >cannot prevent CD to cassette to WAV to MP3, for instance. >And, finally, it will have absolutely no effect upon the >activities of genuine pirates and their CD pressing plants in >some Asian countries. The only people affected will be fans >who want to put a few tracks in a Rio for personal use to >share some music on the 'net. I have a rio, I keep a large library on my computer of my favorite stuff, all of which I have bought, BTW. I like to be able to load it up with stuff before going out... I'm not sure how they're gonna come by this, they're not talking of releasing something that existing cd players can't play, are they? And if an existing cd player can play it, how can they stop it from being scratched? I could just keep my current versions of my software... I suppose they could add new features and stuff, but I'll just keep an old version and have a new one too. I was considering upgrading to the new Diamond Rio model when it comes out (it has a backlit display, displays the name of the track, etc.). >> New devices, available as early as Christmas, would initially support all > >Christmas eh? Why would they release a new format then? > >> implemented and the machines' software is upgraded, the only new songs that >> work on the machines will be ones that are digitally encoded with copyright >> protections. >> Even with the new protections, the players will still be able to play old music >> already illegally copied using the MP3 format > >Now how does the player know it's a new song with encryption or >an old song without it? Precisely, I figure it may be something at the start (I suppose it will have to transcend sampling levels, or perhaps they only care about the 128 kbps (cd-quality)... FWIW, when I go rollerblading, I use mostly 96 kbps, I can fit more on my player (I only have the base 32 meg of memory right now). BTW, if you see them saying these things hold an "hour of music", that's not at cd quality. You can get a little over half an hour at cd quality without buying some flash memory. The new versions coming out will have more base memory, one of the main reasons I was looking at getting one... but now I may just consider the original, "pre-protection" version, superior... ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Jun 30 10:24:56 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 10:24:56 -0400 Subject: OFF: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" Set-List Message-ID: Chuck said.... >"Space Does Not Care", Sat, June 26, 1999, 88.3 KUCR > >2. Add N to X--King Wasp What are these guys like? I saw a review of their latest and couldn't quite tell if they were something I'd go for. >7. Melting Euphoria--Harbour of Infinity I thought you were still looking for this CD? I just picked up an extra used copy (Upon the Solar Winds) at NEARfest thinking you needed one. Oh, well, I'll find a home for it soon. Funny thing, it looks like it has a manufacturing defect in it, but it played fine last night. Keith H. (FAA) ObCD: Solaris - The Martian Chronicles (they were very impressive at NEARfest) From farmer at ALLENCC.NET Wed Jun 30 13:36:18 1999 From: farmer at ALLENCC.NET (Don Farmer) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:36:18 CST Subject: long or short? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi again. It's the new guy. I still haven't gotten a Hawkwind CD yet, but don't worry, I'm still working on that one. But I have a question for the BOC fans out there. If this has already been discussed then I apologize for the duplication, but I was curious which version of Don't Fear the Reaper radio stations play more of in other parts of the world. Around here it depends on the kind of station that is playing it. Mostly we get the short version with the guitar part left out of the middle. Occasionally on a good rock station I get to hear the whole thing. I personally like the long version. In fact, that part of the song was what originially got me hooked on BOC. So what about it? What gets played more, long version or short version? Don Farmer. From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Wed Jun 30 12:52:04 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:52:04 -0700 Subject: long or short? Message-ID: Here in San Diego, CA. I've never even heard a "short version". Hmmm... JB > Hi again. It's the new guy. I still haven't gotten a Hawkwind CD > yet, but don't worry, I'm still working on that one. But I have a > question for the BOC fans out there. If this has already been > discussed then I apologize for the duplication, but I was curious > which version of Don't Fear the Reaper radio stations play more of in > other parts of the world. Around here it depends on the kind of > station that is playing it. Mostly we get the short version with the > guitar part left out of the middle. Occasionally on a good rock > station I get to hear the whole thing. I personally like the long > version. In fact, that part of the song was what originially got > me hooked on BOC. So what about it? What gets played more, long > version or short version? > > Don Farmer. > From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jun 30 12:59:39 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:59:39 EDT Subject: long or short? Message-ID: In a message dated 6/30/99 12:31:51 PM, farmer at ALLENCC.NET writes: <> === i'm surely not a 'cult aficionado; didnt even know there WAS a version of "reaper" minus the middle break. did that version get am radio airplay in 1976? and why would such a thing still get aiplay? yuck! the first time i heard that song it gave me chills, for real...twas my personal #1 song for 1976...but like a certain song about a stairway, there's only so many million times you can hear something... while i dont listen to fm rock anymore ==of my own volition== i would not turn the dial away from "reaper" if i heard it. which is more than i could say about that stairway song...zappa did a neat version of it in '88, though "<>" From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Jun 30 13:25:07 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:25:07 -0400 Subject: long or short? Message-ID: >Hi again. It's the new guy. I still haven't gotten a Hawkwind CD >yet, but don't worry, I'm still working on that one. But I have a >question for the BOC fans out there. If this has already been >discussed then I apologize for the duplication, but I was curious >which version of Don't Fear the Reaper radio stations play more of in >other parts of the world. Around here it depends on the kind of >station that is playing it. Mostly we get the short version with the >guitar part left out of the middle. Occasionally on a good rock >station I get to hear the whole thing. I personally like the long >version. In fact, that part of the song was what originially got >me hooked on BOC. So what about it? What gets played more, long >version or short version? Long version here. Of course, that's a relative term, I'd rather a good live version (Some Enchanted Evening), but whatever.... I don't really care which, I'd rather they play more of the new stuff or rarely played old stuff instead... ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Jun 30 13:25:07 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:25:07 -0400 Subject: long or short? Message-ID: >while i dont listen to fm rock anymore ==of my own volition== i would not >turn the dial away from "reaper" if i heard it. pretty much the same. I occasionally catch a smidgen since I listen to a talk show that is on an FM station that plays music the rest of the day... > >which is more than i could say about that stairway song...zappa did a neat >version of it in '88, though Dread Zeppelin's version was alright... ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Wed Jun 30 17:14:35 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 17:14:35 -0400 Subject: BOC: long or short? In-Reply-To: <199906301531.2379500@allencc.net> Message-ID: Don wrote: >So what about it? What gets played more, long >version or short version? There was a period of about a year where the stations began to play the short version here in upstate NY. Thankfully, the trend is reversing, and I haven't heard the cropped DFtR in a while. It might have something to do with Heaven Forbid coming out- one of the DJs at our classic rock station had been praising it. It's probably just that thousands of miffed BOC fans dialed in demanding the longer version. ;-) ;-) ;-) Brian From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jun 30 12:39:15 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 17:39:15 +0100 Subject: long or short? In-Reply-To: <199906301531.2379500@allencc.net> Message-ID: I honestly don't think I've heard it on the radio in England since about 1978... --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Don Farmer > Sent: 30 June 1999 18:36 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: long or short? > > > Hi again. It's the new guy. I still haven't gotten a Hawkwind CD > yet, but don't worry, I'm still working on that one. But I have a > question for the BOC fans out there. If this has already been > discussed then I apologize for the duplication, but I was curious > which version of Don't Fear the Reaper radio stations play more of in > other parts of the world. Around here it depends on the kind of > station that is playing it. Mostly we get the short version with the > guitar part left out of the middle. Occasionally on a good rock > station I get to hear the whole thing. I personally like the long > version. In fact, that part of the song was what originially got > me hooked on BOC. So what about it? What gets played more, long > version or short version? > > Don Farmer. > From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Jun 30 14:56:37 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 19:56:37 +0100 Subject: long or short? In-Reply-To: <48247591.24aba6fb@aol.com> Message-ID: At 12:59 30/06/99 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 6/30/99 12:31:51 PM, farmer at ALLENCC.NET writes: > ><version or short version? >>> >=== >i'm surely not a 'cult aficionado; didnt even know there WAS a version of >"reaper" minus the middle break. did that version get am radio airplay in >1976? and why would such a thing still get aiplay? yuck! > There was definitely a "horribly foreshortened" (?FZ) version over here in the UK on 7" 45 (it may even have charted!) that was heard on radio & many a pub jukebox in the late 70s > >which is more than i could say about that stairway song...zappa did a neat >version of it in '88, though And I had the great pleasure of seeing it performed by the "best Band You Never Heard In Your Life" ChrisW From des at SUPERLINK.NET Sun Jun 6 18:32:35 1999 From: des at SUPERLINK.NET (E F) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 18:32:35 -0400 Subject: test Message-ID: Empty test