From mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM Thu Jul 1 00:05:03 1999 From: mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM (Matthew Braun) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:05:03 CDT Subject: BOC on VH1 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 30 Jun 1999 05:01:39 CDT." <199906300901.FAA01482@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Theo wrote: >> According to sources on the AOL board, BOC's recent Pittsburgh show >> was taped for a segment on VH1's Where are they Now, which will air >> in August. Said show was a killer, according to reviews posted >> there. Can't wait to see this one! Don't get your hopes up. "Where Are They Now" is an frustratingly incomplete program. It's not uncommon for them to select an interesting group, focus on one or two members, and COMPLETELY ignore the rest. When they do have footage, and say, "...and the band is still rocking out..." only about 5 to 15 seconds of it actually appears on screen. m@ ObCD: "Weird Al" Yankovic, "Running With Scissors" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Jul 1 03:43:40 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 03:43:40 EDT Subject: OFF: disasteroso Message-ID: hi there...i had a bit of an AOL disaster tonight...lost all saved mail, all e-mail addresses in the address book... all "favorites"... may not be able to properly respond to some people as a result...if your address wasnt clipped and lying on my desktop or scribbled down somewhere else, i dont got it scott, carl, please e-mail real soon "<>" From niko.makila at NOKIA.COM Thu Jul 1 03:47:04 1999 From: niko.makila at NOKIA.COM (niko.makila at NOKIA.COM) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 10:47:04 +0300 Subject: FW: long or short? Message-ID: > From: DASLUD at AOL.COM [mailto:DASLUD at AOL.COM] > > i'm surely not a 'cult aficionado; didnt even know there WAS > a version of > "reaper" minus the middle break. did that version get am > radio airplay in > 1976? and why would such a thing still get aiplay? yuck! Not that I really listen to the radio but I think that here in Finland I've heard both about the same number of times (that's about twice to be about exact). > which is more than i could say about that stairway > song...zappa did a neat > version of it in '88, though This is the point that I have something to say about! Here Zappa and the band did an unbelievable rendition of ``Stairway to (Bondage) Heaven'' with lots of assorted bondage noises in the best Zappa fashion. Too bad that the UMRK Mobile had broken down in Norway -- this was all in all an unbelievable almost all instrumental show because Zappa thought that Finns wouldn't understand the vocal parts anyway. Well, I'm not one to complain about that! //niko NP: Brian Setzer Orchestra: The Dirty Boogie (Now this record has some *amazing* guitar work.) From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 1 04:53:34 1999 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 01:53:34 PDT Subject: long or short? Message-ID: > >which is more than i could say about that stairway song...zappa did a >neat > >version of it in '88, though > >Dread Zeppelin's version was alright... Nah, Rolf Harris' version was the ultimate breath of fresh air for_that_number. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jul 1 07:33:34 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 07:33:34 EDT Subject: BOC on VH1 In-Reply-To: <199907010405.XAA07823@chestburster.urbana.css.mot.com> Message-ID: > From: Matthew Braun > Don't get your hopes up. "Where Are They Now" is an frustratingly > incomplete program. It's not uncommon for them to select an interesting > group, focus on one or two members, and COMPLETELY ignore the rest. When > they do have footage, and say, "...and the band is still rocking out..." > only about 5 to 15 seconds of it actually appears on screen. > > m@ Yeah, that's true, but occasionally the show is watchable. I saw one featuring Skynyrd a while back, and it was a good show. I figure ANY mention of BOC on TV is good news. Gotta figure that most of the air time will feature Buck and Eric, and they're both good interviews. Down side is that we're unlikely to hear anything from Al, the band member who would have the most [and most interesting] stuff to tell... theo From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Thu Jul 1 07:46:24 1999 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 04:46:24 -0700 Subject: BOC on VH1 Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Jul 1999 07:33:34 Ted Jackson jr. s2h2 wrote: >> From: Matthew Braun >> Don't get your hopes up. "Where Are They Now" is an frustratingly >> incomplete program. m@'s right, don't expect much out of this. Jethro Tull had a segment on this show a few months ago, and it probably lasted all of 4 minutes, and contained several inaccuracies. >Yeah, that's true, but occasionally the show is watchable. I saw one >featuring Skynyrd a while back, and it was a good show. Are you sure you aren't confusing the "Where Are They Now" show with the "Behind the Music" show? The latter is one complete hour devoted to one band or performer (the Skynyrd one was very good), while WATN is a 30 minute show where they cover the present activities of 8-10 different acts. MWood NP: Anubian Lights - _The Eternal Sky_ (one of my $4.95 CD purchases from shopnow.com) --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 1 07:54:43 1999 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 04:54:43 PDT Subject: BOC: Faves (Was: New to the List) Message-ID: >>>>So what about the BOC fans? Any of you guys out there? Come on, >>>>tell me your favorite albums, and songs. >> >> >>It would probably be too hard for me to pick a favorite album, >>although the one I've probably listened to the most is Spectres. My >>favorite song, and I've never been able to explain this -- it just >>happened -- is FIREWORKS! >> > >It'd certainly go on my personal "Best OF.." tape, and a good contrast to >my other Spectres favourite: "Golden Age Of Leather" (Perhaps >controversially, I WOULDN'T include "Godzilla") > Apart from _Imaginos_,_OYFOOYK_,_ETL_&_Live 1976_, there are only two (on average) songs on any BOC LP after the 1st three, which are works of complete genius (I even like the production). _Agents of Fortune_ This Ain't the Summer, Reaper, ETI _Cultosaurus Erectus_ Godzilla, Are You Ready to Rock _Mirrors_, though, AND _Spectres_ are absolutely HORRIBLE. And I'll fight anyone over this!! :?> Chris. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jul 1 08:03:08 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 08:03:08 EDT Subject: BOC on VH1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: Marshall Wood > > Are you sure you aren't confusing the "Where Are They Now" show with the "Behind the Music" show? The latter is one complete hour devoted to one band or performer (the Skynyrd one was very good), wh> > MWood > That's entirely possible. I only watch VH1 when I'm channel surfing! theo From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Thu Jul 1 11:16:24 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 08:16:24 -0700 Subject: Faves (Was: New to the List) Message-ID: I agree on _Spectres_ with the exception of "Golden Age of Leather" and Mirrors has that song I recently mentioned but can never think of the name.. On the LP its the first song on side 2.. damn it... Brain Fade! Anyway, despite my faulty memory, it remains one of the BOC classics IMO. Someone help me out here.. whats the name of the song? I can remember the lyrics but not the main chorus or title.. (I'll have to break it out and listen when I get home tonight.) Wait, its coming to me... "The Vigil"! The song is so good that I can forgive the mistakes like "Dr. Music"... "The Great Sun Jester" is also worth hearing. JB > > _Mirrors_, though, AND _Spectres_ are absolutely HORRIBLE. > And I'll fight > anyone over this!! > > :?> > Chris. > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jul 1 11:35:54 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:35:54 EDT Subject: Faves (Was: New to the List) In-Reply-To: <6D986111E966D211A65E00A0C96E961108FBA9@C2> Message-ID: > From: Joseph Brooks > I agree on _Spectres_ with the exception of "Golden Age of Leather" Golden Age is a great song, and they're even doing it live nowadays. Godzilla started out as a great song, just got done to death, I'm afraid. I Love the Night, Nosferatu fine songs too... and > Mirrors has that song I recently mentioned but can never think of the name.. > On the LP its the first song on side 2.. damn it... Brain Fade! The Vigil--which they've done live a couple times within the last few years as well. Otherwise, Mirrors ain't one of my faves... Anyway, > despite my faulty memory, it remains one of the BOC classics IMO. > > Someone help me out here.. whats the name of the song? I can remember the > lyrics but not the main chorus or title.. (I'll have to break it out and > listen when I get home tonight.) > > Wait, its coming to me... "The Vigil"! The song is so good that I can > forgive the mistakes like "Dr. Music"... Oh, man, speaking of brain fades! Someone had a big one when they recorded that tune. I came to hate that song even more when they used it for an opener in place of Stairway. Though I came to resent R.U. Ready for the same reason, even though it's a good song, it wasn't worth bumping Stairway as opener. Curiously, I didn't mind BFY as an opener, as it meant I didn't have to endure it as part of the Big 3 segment of the show, and the group counterbalanced it by putting some great stuff into the show[c.f. Golden Age, Astronomy, etc.] "The Great Sun Jester" is also > worth hearing. > > JB > > > > > _Mirrors_, though, AND _Spectres_ are absolutely HORRIBLE. > > And I'll fight > > anyone over this!! > > Bring help...A lot of help! theo From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Jul 1 13:55:36 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 18:55:36 +0100 Subject: HW: Reissues In-Reply-To: <000001bec27d$c0f90b80$8855dacf@primenet.com> Message-ID: In article <000001bec27d$c0f90b80$8855dacf at primenet.com>, Kevin Sommers writes >HAWKWIND-LEVITATION $17.95 >Reissue of the legendary English prog/ space rock group's 1980 album, one of >the few they cut with Ginger Baker as their drummer. Name another. -- Jon From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jul 1 13:20:27 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 13:20:27 -0400 Subject: HW: Reissues Message-ID: Jon said... >In article <000001bec27d$c0f90b80$8855dacf at primenet.com>, Kevin Sommers > writes >>HAWKWIND-LEVITATION $17.95 >>Reissue of the legendary English prog/ space rock group's 1980 album, one of >>the few they cut with Ginger Baker as their drummer. > >Name another. Didn't he appear on a track or two on one of those hodge-podge releases like Zones or Out and Intake? I thought so, but not sure. But anyway, just a footnote really. Levitation's all that matters as far as Baker's stint with the group. Of course, perhaps there are some live tapes of 'Ginger Baker's Hawkwind' lying around waiting for release. :) Keith H. (FAA) ObCDs: Elektrum - Live at the Opera Zone Six - Zone Six From adrian.brevard at EDS.COM Thu Jul 1 16:43:20 1999 From: adrian.brevard at EDS.COM (Brevard, Adrian R) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 16:43:20 -0400 Subject: BOC: DFtR and Tidbits Message-ID: Haven't heard DFtR on the radio in quite some time but pretty sure when I do its the shorter version. Mentally I fill in the blanks. Stairway to Heaven, per Zepplin, is still an all time fave so I will not bash it. >NP: Brian Setzer Orchestra: The Dirty Boogie (Now this record has some *amazing* guitar work.) Ya it is pretty kewl, BS can still rock. I saw in the current edition of Metal Edge Magazine that Sony is planning a 16 track BOC greatest hits package release for the near future. The difference? All 16 tracks will be re-mastered. Anyone else hear about this project? Don>> Hi again. It's the new guy. Well you are new until you get caught in the cross fire of a flame war hehehehehe. Haven't had one in a while, but thats a good thing. Few years back they could get real ugly. Watch me start something. Yo Theo, wasn't that you wearing the Farewell to Kings T-shirt at the last BOC gig? I knew you were a closet Rush fan. Note: Just kidding big guy don't kick my ass. All for now... Ghost in the Ruins NP - Savatage - Streets, A Rock Opera From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Jul 1 18:08:27 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 18:08:27 EDT Subject: BOC: DFtR and Tidbits Message-ID: In a message dated 7/1/99 4:43:35 PM, adrian.brevard at EDS.COM writes: << <> to which DASLUD replies, having more or less recovered from last night's 5 hour AOL crisis: werent exactly "bashin'" it so much as xpressing weariness over having heard it so many , many times... but THEN there's the matter of randy california's "taurus" from the first lp by spirit...zeppelin used to jam on the "fresh garbage" riff from that lp so page knew/had that lp,,,if you havent heard "taurus" but have access to it, you might be stunned at what zeppelin piece it apparently led to...and i aint talkin no neil sedaka! === Don>> Hi again. It's the new guy. <> ==== a few YEARS back? try FEBRUARY/MARCH, comrade...if you're saying it's been uglier than what i crawled out from under (my bad, my bad, ENOUGH already!) I==DO==NOT==WANNA==KNOW. ==== << Watch me start something.>> === i know! how about styx vs rush! (ducking flying projectiles) ja ne! (a signoff i quit using at that time) (japanese for "see ya!") "<>" From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Thu Jul 1 22:39:27 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 21:39:27 -0500 Subject: BOC: DFtR and Tidbits Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 7/1/99 4:43:35 PM, adrian.brevard at EDS.COM writes: > > << > < bash it>> > > to which DASLUD replies, having more or less recovered from last night's 5 > hour AOL crisis: > > werent exactly "bashin'" it so much as xpressing weariness over having heard > it so many , many times... > but THEN there's the matter of randy california's "taurus" from the first lp > by spirit...zeppelin used to jam on the "fresh garbage" riff from that lp so > page knew/had that lp,,,if you havent heard "taurus" but have access to it, > you might be stunned at what zeppelin piece it apparently led to...and i aint > talkin no neil sedaka! > === > Don>> Hi again. It's the new guy. > > < hehehehehe. Haven't had one in a while, but that's a good thing. Few years > back they could get real ugly. >> > ==== > a few YEARS back? try FEBRUARY/MARCH, comrade...if you're saying it's been > uglier than what i crawled out from under (my bad, my bad, ENOUGH already!) > I==DO==NOT==WANNA==KNOW. > ==== > << Watch me start something.>> > === > i know! how about styx vs rush! > (ducking flying projectiles) Have Styx been exhumed? has anyone else noticed the "buzz" going all around the mass media about Mr Roboto? Its lyrics and music are appearing everywhere in commercials and the such ('domo arigato' was quipped in a new hi-profile commercial promoting e-business). It's also been a subject in several recent conversations i've had. The earliest reference to the song (immediately before this surge began) that I know of was in a May issue of The Onion, in an article titled something like : "Mr. Roboto (and some other song) Only Songs Not Yet Sampled By Rap Artists " ...Could this have actually started it? i bet that, ironically, someone's doing a remix of it right now! From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jul 1 23:20:27 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 04:20:27 +0100 Subject: OFF: Patti Smith Message-ID: Saw Patti Smith at the Forum, London, last night. Very excellent she was, too! Last time I saw her, two or three years ago, she'd just made her comeback to performing, and was rather endearingly bashful. Not any more! With a very hard-rocking set, she was practically a rock chick - no poetry apart from "Piss Factory" to open, and not afraid to do crowd-pleasers like "Because the Night" or "Gloria". The highlights for me were "Dancing Barefoot" and "Free Money", and a song called "Persuasion" from the forthcoming album. I've a feeling the next album could be her best in a long while. She's playing a second night tonight, so if you're in striking distance, do yourself a favour and see if you can get a ticket! --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Fri Jul 2 01:51:07 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 05:51:07 +0000 Subject: BOC: Faves (Was: New to the List) Message-ID: > _Mirrors_, though, AND _Spectres_ are absolutely HORRIBLE. And I'll fight > anyone over this!! I disagree on Spectres. . . but I don't wanna fight. "Nosferatu" is a masterpiece all by itself. I'm done, -- Nick From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Fri Jul 2 01:51:07 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 05:51:07 +0000 Subject: BOC on VH1 Message-ID: > Are you sure you aren't confusing the "Where Are They Now" show with the "Behind the Music" show? The latter is one complete hour devoted to one band or performer (the Skynyrd one was very good), w > ile WATN is a 30 minute show where they cover the presen > MWood Maybe I'm too cynical, but I say there's NO WAY IN HELL that VH-1 would ever do a whole "Behind the Music" on BOC. -- Nick From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Fri Jul 2 07:12:28 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:12:28 +0100 Subject: HW: T/shirts and general merchandise Message-ID: Hello! Would anyone be interested in me reissuing back Hawkwind tour shirts going back to about 1984. If so which ones would be worth doing......any requests???? Kris From flossbac at NLCI.COM Fri Jul 2 07:52:14 1999 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 06:52:14 -0500 Subject: HW: T/shirts and general merchandise Message-ID: > Would anyone be interested in me reissuing back Hawkwind tour shirts going > back to about 1984. If so which ones would be worth doing......any > requests???? > Kris Oh yeah Kris, I'd certainly be interested. I've been seeking a very recent one ("Hawkwind's Galactic Tour" or whatever it was...) but I would almost definitely buy older designs, although living in the USA (a place HW didn't tour in for most of the 80's), I'm not familiar with many of those 80's tour shirts. The ones sold at USA shows from 1989-1998 I already have and love... John Majka flossbac at nlci.com From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Fri Jul 2 08:24:47 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 08:24:47 -0400 Subject: Ebay notice of some cool BOC stuff Message-ID: Just wanted to let those of you in search of cool BOC stuff know that this week I've seen a number of great collectibles. And NO, these are not things I'm selling -- this is just a public service announcement. Go to www.ebay.com and do a search on Blue Oyster Cult -- for best results go to the "SEARCH" page (don't just use the search box on the main page), and be sure to check the box that says "search title AND description". Here are some cool items up for auction right now: 1. CD of DEADRINGER - the band Joe Bouchard formed after leaving BOC -- very much 80s hair-metal music, but it has some cool cuts, including the Buck Dharma tune "Summa cum Loud", the Al Bouchard/Deb Frost "When You're In, You're In" (which would later become the Brain Surgeons song, "Operation Luv"), and "Love is a Killer" - a track which would later appear on Joe's "X Brothers" CD. 2. Copies of Imaginos on CD 3. Stalk-Forrest Group recordings, including a copy of the promo 45 of "Arthur Comics" / "What is Quicksand" that Elektra pressed before dropping the band. 4. A few copies of the 1989 "Astronomy" single CD - the one from Imaginos with Steven King spoken intro. 5. Copies of the "Black and Blue" video 6. A copy of the movie "Bad Channels" 7. A copy of the Cult Classic guitar TAB book 8. A copy of the Agents of Fortune / Spectres music book that was published back in the 70s -- I have a copy of this and it is very cool and hard to find - no TAB in it, just basic piano arrangements and chords with lyrics and a few photos. 9. Copies of "Career of Evil: The Metal Years" ;-) Happy 4th of July all! John -- John A. Swartz - The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA - jswartz at mitre.org "Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to Anger - Anger leads to Hate - HATE leads to SUFFERING." -- Yoda (Star Wars: Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace) From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Jul 2 08:44:30 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 08:44:30 -0400 Subject: HW: T/shirts and general merchandise Message-ID: >Hello! > >Would anyone be interested in me reissuing back Hawkwind tour shirts going >back to about 1984. If so which ones would be worth doing......any >requests???? Yes!!!! but I don't know them, I've never seen one. Is there a website with like small pics of them anywhere? ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jul 2 08:55:17 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 08:55:17 EDT Subject: HW: T/shirts and general merchandise In-Reply-To: <199907021244.IAA23270@issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us> Message-ID: > From: "Andrew A. Apold" > >Hello! > > > >Would anyone be interested in me reissuing back Hawkwind tour shirts going > >back to about 1984. If so which ones would be worth doing......any > >requests???? > > Yes!!!! but I don't know them, I've never seen one. Is there > a website with like small pics of them anywhere? > Hell, I'm not even a HW fan, but I'd dig having a HW t-shirt. Actually saw a guy wearing one at a Bevis Frond gig last year... theo From adrian.brevard at EDS.COM Fri Jul 2 10:05:52 1999 From: adrian.brevard at EDS.COM (Brevard, Adrian R) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 10:05:52 -0400 Subject: BOC: Faves (Was: New to the List) Message-ID: >_Mirrors_, though, AND _Spectres_ are absolutely HORRIBLE. And I'll fight anyone over this!! Far be it from me to pick on anybody's taste but...if you go with the premise that every BOC song is a good song on some level it all comes down to the production/song order on any particular album. I like Specters more than AOF. Mirrors of course has the most underatted song in the bands history, The Vigil. C'mon give it a try you can find redemption in the entire catalog. >Oh, man, speaking of brain fades! Someone had a big one when they recorded that tune. I came to hate that song even more when they used it for an opener in place of Stairway. Though I came to resent R.U. Ready for the same reason, even though it's a good song, it wasn't worth bumping Stairway as opener. Curiously, I didn't mind BFY as an opener, as it meant I didn't have to endure it as part of the Big 3 segment of the show, and the group counterbalanced it by putting some great stuff into the show[c.f. Golden Age, Astronomy, etc.] That's an excellent point. Very few songs seem to work as a set opener for BOC. That is so weird. I get cised for Stairways or Take me Away; I've gotten used to BFY. Anything else just dosen't seem to work. Now if they were 20+ years younger and headbangers SYIB would sound great at the top. Not at this age however. >werent exactly "bashin'" it so much as xpressing weariness over having heard it so many , many times... I know bro. For some reason I could hear it on a daily basis and it wouldn't bother me. >a few YEARS back? try FEBRUARY/MARCH, comrade...if you're saying it's been > uglier than what i crawled out from under (my bad, my bad, ENOUGH already!) > I==DO==NOT==WANNA==KNOW. Are you kidding? That was like female mud wrestling. There are some old timers who remember the "Smiley debate" or the great "coffee wars". I got the scars to prove it. Ask any oldtimer from 5 years and back...we are all Veterans of the Pyschic Wars. How bad was it? Mature well rounded individuals turned off their services; rational well balanced folks issued terse warnings; normally friendly folks spewed curse words. Oh it was bad, real bad. All because newbies (like me) had no, I repeat no concept of internet ettiqutte. The good that came out of it was greater tolerance and patience with those who simply do not know. Look at yesterdays digest, baited Theo with Rush stuff and nary a twitch. 8>) So, who knows about this new SONY project? L8er Ghost in The Ruins NP - Govt Mule - Live...With a Little Help from Our Friends (disc one) From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Fri Jul 2 10:09:54 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 10:09:54 -0400 Subject: HW: T/shirts and general merchandise Message-ID: Interested! Unfortunately, our friend Mr Godwin didn't deem t-shirts collectible, so I have no idea which ones I would want. BTW- Are there any Hawkwind 99 disks left? Ron and Karyn >Hello! > >Would anyone be interested in me reissuing back Hawkwind tour shirts going >back to about 1984. If so which ones would be worth doing......any >requests???? > >Kris From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 2 10:15:40 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:15:40 +0100 Subject: HW: T/shirts and general merchandise In-Reply-To: XXX's message of Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:12:28 +0100 Message-ID: XXX writes: > Hello! > > Would anyone be interested in me reissuing back Hawkwind tour shirts going > back to about 1984. If so which ones would be worth doing......any > requests???? I've got a few but don't have a Sonic Attack if there was any such thing, and that's certainly one I'd like to have. There's a recent one with a Buddha on it I think deserves a re-issue and a wonderful tie-dye long sleeve shirt with a Hawk type mandala design that fluoresces - or did once. But mebbe that's a tad too hippy for these days 8-) jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Fri Jul 2 10:25:56 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 07:25:56 -0700 Subject: BOC: DFtR and Tidbits Message-ID: One can only hope that this is not the case. Some things are better left for dead. (Sorry, sometimes I just can't help myself.. : ) JB > Have Styx been exhumed? has anyone else noticed the "buzz" > going all around the > mass media about Mr Roboto? Its lyrics and music are > appearing everywhere in > commercials and the such ('domo arigato' was quipped in a new > hi-profile > commercial promoting e-business). It's also been a subject in > several recent > conversations i've had. > > The earliest reference to the song (immediately before this > surge began) that I > know of was in a May issue of The Onion, in an article > titled something like : > "Mr. Roboto (and some other song) Only Songs Not Yet Sampled > By Rap Artists " > ...Could this have actually started it? > > i bet that, ironically, someone's doing a remix of it right now! From Joe.Lofft at EXMAIL.ITEC.SUNY.EDU Fri Jul 2 10:06:57 1999 From: Joe.Lofft at EXMAIL.ITEC.SUNY.EDU (Lofft, Joe) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 10:06:57 -0400 Subject: BOC: Ultradisc recordings Message-ID: Can anyone tell me if it is worth buying he ULTRADISC CD with the BOC and T&M albums on it. Is the sound quality that much better? From hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU Fri Jul 2 11:17:56 1999 From: hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU (Thomas Rickert) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 10:17:56 -0500 Subject: BOC: Ultradisc recordings Message-ID: I was impressed with the sound difference. I made a comparison, and there is a noticeable improvement. Better bass, crisper highs, slightly more "push" in the sound. Thomas "Lofft, Joe" wrote: > Can anyone tell me if it is worth buying he ULTRADISC CD > with the BOC and T&M albums on it. Is the sound quality > that much better? From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jul 2 11:07:09 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 11:07:09 EDT Subject: BOC: DFtR and Tidbits In-Reply-To: <6D986111E966D211A65E00A0C96E961108FBAD@C2> Message-ID: > From: Joseph Brooks > One can only hope that this is not the case. Some things are better left for > dead. (Sorry, sometimes I just can't help myself.. : ) > > JB > > > Have Styx been exhumed? How could you tell? > > > > The earliest reference to the song (immediately before this > > surge began) that I > > know of was in a May issue of The Onion, in an article > > titled something like : > > "Mr. Roboto (and some other song) Only Songs Not Yet Sampled > > By Rap Artists " > > ...Could this have actually started it? > > > > i bet that, ironically, someone's doing a remix of it right now! Well, if the Onion said it, it's probably a send-up, eh? theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jul 2 11:15:34 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 11:15:34 EDT Subject: BOC: Faves (Was: New to the List) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: "Brevard, Adrian R" > > Are you kidding? That was like female mud wrestling. There are some old > timers who remember the "Smiley debate" Oh, man, I remember that one. I was just joining the list when that happened...Dr. Bob--what became of him? He was one funny dude! or the great "coffee wars". Yep, another good one, but again, I think I missed most of that one. Curiously, they were from the same time period, weren't they? > The good that came out of it was greater tolerance and patience with those > who simply do not know. Look at yesterdays digest, baited Theo with Rush > stuff and nary a twitch. 8>) > '...all the scars are on the inside...' I WAS twitching, fingers poised over the keys, but yesterday was Canada day, and I defered in the interest of international bonhommie... > So, who knows about this new SONY project? > Supposedly, it's tied to an internet poll, and will contain songs voted for by the fans. Not sure where I came across that rumor, AOL maybe? theo From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jul 2 11:33:40 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 16:33:40 +0100 Subject: BOC: Faves (Was: New to the List) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Ted Jackson jr. s2h2 wrote: > > From: "Brevard, Adrian R" > > > > Are you kidding? That was like female mud wrestling. There are some old > > timers who remember the "Smiley debate" > > Oh, man, I remember that one. I was just joining the list when that > happened...Dr. Bob--what became of him? He was one funny dude! He got read-only banned, didn't he, as I recall? A bit upset when he found out he wasn't the only Ph.D on the List but the others had been too modest to use their titles... I'd just joined the list then too, and a better way to learn netiquette fast than that I cannot imagine. > or the great "coffee wars". > > Yep, another good one, but again, I think I missed most of that one. > Curiously, they were from the same time period, weren't they? Just beforehand I think, because I missed it and it was still being referred to with care when I joined - very confusing... I also remember the day somebody said something careless about religion and then defended his viewpoint against _every_ _single_ counterpost (not mentioing any names). It generated 400K of e-mail in a day, I was already over quota on my university account and as a result I lost my e-mail for three days while I got it sorted out. That was fun :-) Of course, nowadays you can send that much in one file just by accident... Kidding! Kidding! Yours, Jon From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 2 11:52:07 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 16:52:07 +0100 Subject: HW: T/shirts and general merchandise In-Reply-To: Sprawl's message of Fri, 2 Jul 1999 10:09:54 -0400 Message-ID: Sprawl writes: > Interested! > Unfortunately, our friend Mr Godwin didn't deem t-shirts collectible, so > I have no idea which ones I would want. > > BTW- Are there any Hawkwind 99 disks left? Eh? What were the Hawkwind 99 disks? FoFP From micci at SCI.FI Fri Jul 2 12:01:02 1999 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:01:02 +0300 Subject: HW: T/shirts and general merchandise Message-ID: > >Would anyone be interested in me reissuing back Hawkwind tour shirts going >back to about 1984. If so which ones would be worth doing......any >requests???? Oh yes! Do all!! No, just kidding, too expencive. Chronicle Of The Black Sword would be nice. btw. Nik Turner play with Dark Sun & 5.15 tomorrow in Tavastia club, Helsinki. Anyone coming? Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jul 2 12:11:14 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:11:14 -0400 Subject: HW: T/shirts and general merchandise In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, XXX wrote: =>Would anyone be interested in me reissuing back Hawkwind tour shirts going =>back to about 1984. If so which ones would be worth doing......any =>requests???? I'd be interested, but please print them on higher-quality t-shirts this time (and with better printing). The 1988 tour t-shirt design I have faded like it looked over 10 years old *after just one wash!* Plus, all the Hawkwind t-shirts I have (and the "Dave Brock and the Agents of Chaos" shirt) get threadbare so fast it's not funny. Do you put some kind of accelerated aging formula in them, so they look antique and collectible within two washes? :-) Contrarily, the BOC-L t-shirts have held up very well. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 2 12:16:09 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:16:09 +0100 Subject: HW: T/shirts and general merchandise In-Reply-To: J Strobridge's message of Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:15:40 +0100 Message-ID: J Strobridge writes: > XXX writes: > > > Hello! > > > > Would anyone be interested in me reissuing back Hawkwind tour shirts going > > back to about 1984. If so which ones would be worth doing......any > > requests???? > > I've got a few but don't have a Sonic Attack if there was any such > thing There was. I have a rather worn and scabby version of it somewhere. It has the Hawk logo from the front of the album on it. What'd also be neat would be a rerelease of the tatsy die cast badge of the Hawk released around then. > and that's certainly one I'd like to have. There's a recent > one with a Buddha on it I think deserves a re-issue and a wonderful > tie-dye long sleeve shirt with a Hawk type mandala design that > fluoresces - or did once. But mebbe that's a tad too hippy for these > days 8-) I dunno, there was a stall selling very flourescent clothing for the dance tent at Glasters this year so it might even be fashionable. obGlasto: The Glastonbury programme has a summary of Glasters lore in it. There's an old pic of Hawkwind from the In the Beginning CD (I think) in there and also the story of the "1981 Hawkwind riot". The story has it that New Order were on before Hawkwind and that Hawkfans on their motorbikes surrounded the gig and revved in order to encourage them off the stage to let Hawkwind on after which it is claimed that they played a twenty minute version of Silver Machine. Assuming that the statute of limitations is up, I could admit the truth. It was our first Glastonbury and we'd cycled there from Stonehenge where Hawkwind had played the night before to a rather small audience and had chatted to us after the gig. We bought a large flagon of cider from the back of a farmer's wagon and this turned out to be rather lethal. Hawkwind were in fact on before New Order and we made our way down to the front of the metal Pyramid Stage. Early in the gig Brock promised Silver Machine for the encore with some lasers and fireworks. Unfortunately at the end of the set the organisers announced that there was a midnight curfew and New Order would have to begin setting up immediately and therefore there'd be no Hawkwind encore. Unsurprisingly most fans believed that sufficient chanting of "Hawkwind" would disabuse them of this outrageous notion and a goodly amount of this can be heard at the end of the audience tape of the gig. Perhaps unfortunately I banged the now almost empty cider flagon on the sheet metal of the Pyramid Stage to punctuate the chant. This produced rather a tasty booming noise which wasn't lost on the rest of the fans at the front and they started banging their bottles onto the metal by way of percussional accompaniment to the chant. This made an even more tasty booming noise. It was all pretty good natured. The problem probably arose because the band, organisers and perhaps even security were inside the pyramid and this must have been similar to lying in a biscuit tin with someone banging on the lid. By the time around 20 security types had congregated to discourage this, we'd reached a vantage point up the hill a ways, attracted by someone playing "Blake's New Jerusalem" from a speaker powered by a small truck. As far as we could see, the "riot" amounted to the security types rushing the front of the stage and pushing folks back so that they couldn't bang on it. I daresay it's possible that some punches were thrown in the melee but I doubt it could reasonably be classed a "riot". Of course they never did play Silver Machine, never mind a twenty minute version of it. In the end New Order did a very good set and the lasers did look quite good once it was dark. I remember them playing off a large electricity pylon a little ways off from the campfire we'd adopted at the invitation of the Tim Blake fan. The most trouble I remember that year was someone throwing something at Ginger Baker which drew blood from his nose, and some idiots who trashed and set fire to the only semi-reasonable toilets on the site. FoFP P.S: I think the Glastonbury Programme is still available from the organisers. See www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jul 2 12:19:43 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:19:43 -0400 Subject: BOC: Faves (Was: New to the List) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, Ted Jackson jr. s2h2 wrote: =>> From: "Brevard, Adrian R" =>> =>> Are you kidding? That was like female mud wrestling. There are some old =>> timers who remember the "Smiley debate" => =>Oh, man, I remember that one. I was just joining the list when that =>happened...Dr. Bob--what became of him? He was one funny dude! Yeah, I laughed so hard I cried (on the inside). ;-) There's no such thing as a good flame war, IMHO[*]. Off to see the Allman Brothers Band @ Charlotte, NC tomorrow; let's see how that new boy, Derek, works out... BTW, on the subject of t-shirts, the ABB are having their 30th anniversary this year. According to their WWW page, they're printing up a design available only by mail-order to celebrate that. On it they have the ABB logo and underneath is written, "Never trust any band under thirty!" That would look good on a Hawkwind t-shirt, I think. Cheers, Paul. [*] Special Dr. Bob memorial "IMHO." e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jul 2 13:11:15 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 13:11:15 EDT Subject: BOC: Faves (Was: New to the List) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > Off to see the Allman Brothers Band @ Charlotte, NC tomorrow; let's > see how that new boy, Derek, works out... > I saw DTB last month, and he's so good it's scary. His tone is unbelievable. I know you're a big Haynes/Mule fan, and I am too, but DT is even better on slide than Warren. Lead's another matter, but he can more than hold his own. All the more amazing when you consider he's playing an E-tuned guitar for both slide and lead! I've got 18th row for ABB at the NYS Fair in August--and 12th row for Jeff Beck the very next night! theo From ted at ALGER.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jul 2 11:54:46 1999 From: ted at ALGER.DEMON.CO.UK (Ted Alger) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 16:54:46 +0100 Subject: BOC: SONY Best of... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: actually, it wasn't any internet poll.... Eric polled the members of the AOL BOC boards and they figured it out from there >> From: "Brevard, Adrian R" >> >> Are you kidding? That was like female mud wrestling. There are some old >> timers who remember the "Smiley debate" > >Oh, man, I remember that one. I was just joining the list when that >happened...Dr. Bob--what became of him? He was one funny dude! > > >or the great "coffee wars". > >Yep, another good one, but again, I think I missed most of that one. >Curiously, they were from the same time period, weren't they? > > > >> The good that came out of it was greater tolerance and patience with those >> who simply do not know. Look at yesterdays digest, baited Theo with Rush >> stuff and nary a twitch. 8>) >> >'...all the scars are on the inside...' >I WAS twitching, fingers poised over the keys, but yesterday was >Canada day, and I defered in the interest of international >bonhommie... > > >> So, who knows about this new SONY project? >> >Supposedly, it's tied to an internet poll, and will contain songs >voted for by the fans. Not sure where I came across that rumor, AOL >maybe? > >theo From hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM Fri Jul 2 13:38:41 1999 From: hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM (Randy) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:38:41 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Stickers Message-ID: are their any places to get HW stickers like the kind that go on the inside of a car's window? i see grateful dead stickers like that all the time but never a HW one...one of the Space Ritual cover would be really cool... Randy Just think...Space is only 100 miles away...straight up....... From brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jul 2 14:05:41 1999 From: brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:05:41 +0100 Subject: T/shirts and general merchandise In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello all I know its pre 84 but one of my most prized possesions is a rather unwearable Sonic Attack Baseball Shirt which I think is the last word in satorial cool. Brian From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jul 2 14:05:59 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:05:59 -0400 Subject: BOC: Faves (Was: New to the List) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Theo writes: => > Off to see the Allman Brothers Band @ Charlotte, NC tomorrow; let's => > see how that new boy, Derek, works out... => I saw DTB last month, and he's so good it's scary. His tone is => unbelievable. I know you're a big Haynes/Mule fan, and I am too, but => DT is even better on slide than Warren. Lead's another matter, but => he can more than hold his own. All the more amazing when you => consider he's playing an E-tuned guitar for both slide and lead! => I've got 18th row for ABB at the NYS Fair in August--and 12th row for => Jeff Beck the very next night! Actually, I spoke too soon, it seems. I just came back from the local Kroger where their TicketMaster booth informs me that the LAWN is *SOLD OUT*. I can't &#$*%! believe it. Last time I went to see them @ Charlotte in '95 they were nowhere close to selling out the lawn. Jeez, I guess everyone is bitten by the 30th Anniversary tour bug. :-( There are still actual *seats* left in the seated part of the amphitheatre (even ones under the cover), but in my current weakened financial state, $40+/ticket on top of a 3+ hour drive to Charlotte to see the Allmans is just a tad too much right now. (Makes the Mule all the more amazing value: I've never paid > $15 for *any* Mule show, and you get to stand right up close and personal instead of at binocular range.) Sorry for the non-content post, but this just blows chunks. (Hot Tuna were due to support, too. Boo hoo...) Oh, well, I guess I'd best shoot for the Ozrics @ Ziggy's, Winston-Salem, NC in mid-July. (Oh, and Phish are @ Charlotte next Wednesday. Are they worth seeing??) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post..." --- ABB From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jul 2 14:13:06 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:13:06 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Stickers Message-ID: I seem to remember that there were car window stickers available on the '89 Space Bandits tour (not album tour the year later) featuring the 'fireball' design with 'Space Bandits' written in the tail. Didn't get one 'cos I didn't have a car then (doh!). Nick -----Original Message----- From: Randy To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 02 July 1999 18:38 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Stickers >are their any places to get HW stickers like the kind that >go on the inside of a car's window? >i see grateful dead stickers like that all the time >but never a HW one...one of the Space Ritual cover would be really cool... > >Randy >Just think...Space is only 100 miles away...straight up....... From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jul 2 14:17:19 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:17:19 EDT Subject: BOC: Faves (Was: New to the List) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: Paul Mather > > Actually, I spoke too soon, it seems. I just came back from the local > Kroger where their TicketMaster booth informs me that the LAWN is *SOLD > OUT*. I can't &#$*%! believe it. Last time I went to see them @ > Charlotte in '95 they were nowhere close to selling out the lawn. > Jeez, I guess everyone is bitten by the 30th Anniversary tour bug. :-( > > There are still actual *seats* left in the seated part of the > amphitheatre (even ones under the cover), but in my current weakened > financial state, $40+/ticket on top of a 3+ hour drive to Charlotte to What's up with that? I paid $25 for a primo seat--the cheap ones were only 23 bucks... > see the Allmans is just a tad too much right now. (Makes the Mule all > the more amazing value: I've never paid > $15 for *any* Mule show, and > you get to stand right up close and personal instead of at binocular > range.) Yep, sure enough. 2 of the times I saw Mule, I only paid 5 bucks, and if you can believe it, one of those shows also featured BOC! GM's playing a free concert in a couple weeks in Rochester, but I'm not sure I can make that show. Hey Brian, any idea what time that gig starts, and are there any other groups on the bill? theo From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jul 2 14:46:00 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:46:00 EDT Subject: HW: Hawkwind Stickers Message-ID: speaking of stickers...a story from my hippie traveling days... the HW 'roadhawks' lp , when it first came out, came with a small round "DOREMI" sticker...i carried it around for awhile, wondering where to deploy it; it finally found a place on a homemade bong made from a length of black pvc pipe which i had been given. this would be 1976... one saturday night while standing by an on ramp of the new jersey turnpike en route to connecticut, a police car came up and two cops got out. uh-oh... usually cops wouldnt bother a hitchhiker on an on ramp, but it must've been a slow night for these guys. they werent abusive, but clearly they enjoyed having me dump out the contents of my backpack on the hood of their car. in their search they would find a gram of hashish and a very nice pipe my sister had given me for my birthday a few weeks prior. these they confiscated without arresting me.. but when they got to the aforementioned bong, one of the cops handled it, looked quizzically at me, and said "what's this? a musical instrument?". i said nothing. he handed the bong back to me. i repacked my backpack and they drove off. i made it to my friend's house in ct. early the next morning. i would keep the 'hawkbong" until 1991, when it was taken in a police raid on my house, caused by lies a housemate told a bar strumpet in order to get horizontal with her., not knowing she was occasionally a police informant. you know, you just havent lived until a gun gets stuck in your face and you're escorted face down onto the floor....but the joke was on the 14 cops and a dog team who showed up that night, as my housemate had hardly been the "#1 east coast cocaine dealer" as he'd told the strumpet. no cocaine, no computer records...nope. but that would be a story for another off-group time, though. bongs away! "<>" From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Fri Jul 2 14:50:37 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:50:37 -0400 Subject: BOC: BRAIN: Helen Wheels in Rochester, NY Message-ID: >From Freetime Magazine: >Helen Wheels >Monty's Korner >July 10 > >New York City veteran "punk diva" Helen Wheels has gone from poet to leather costume designer >to lyricist for Blue Oyster Cult (receiving >two gold & one platinum album for this work) to punk-rock performer to women's bodybuilder >(winning various titles) to actor to writer, and now back to musical performer. Wheels has >accomplished much throughout her expansive career, including winning the ASCAP award for Best >New Writer and Publisher in 1978 and in 1986, the Helen Wheels Band was nominated for "Best >Heavy Metal Band" in the first ever New York City Music Awards. >Recently, Wheels left the grit of NYC, moving to upstate New York, and currently supporting her >latest release, Archetype, a compilation of her material that spans her twenty year career. Wheels >will be backed by The Skeleton Crew, the band she's been performing with regularly. If anyone's interested in catching the show, I'll try to find out where "Monty's Korner" is. It's not in the yellow pages.... Brian From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Fri Jul 2 14:59:13 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:59:13 -0400 Subject: BOC: Faves (Was: New to the List) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Theo wrote: >Yep, sure enough. 2 of the times I saw Mule, I only paid 5 bucks, >and if you can believe it, one of those shows also featured BOC! >GM's playing a free concert in a couple weeks in Rochester, but I'm >not sure I can make that show. Hey Brian, any idea what time that >gig starts, and are there any other groups on the bill? Nope, but I'll look into it. Manhattan Square Park has a headliner coming in every week for a few weeks. I think the other bands at the festival will be local support since it's a weekly thing instead of a one-shot. Brian From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jul 2 15:20:36 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:20:36 EDT Subject: BOC: BRAIN: Helen Wheels in Rochester, NY In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990702143823.0092f1e0@mail.earthlink.net> Message-ID: > From: Brian Halligan > If anyone's interested in catching the show, I'll try to find out where > "Monty's Korner" is. It's not in the yellow pages.... Hell yeah! I believe HW played at the Wolf Inn here in Syr. recently, but I couldn't make it... theo From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Fri Jul 2 15:32:01 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 14:32:01 -0500 Subject: HW: T/shirts and general merchandise Message-ID: >Would anyone be interested in me reissuing back Hawkwind tour shirts going >back to about 1984. If so which ones would be worth doing......any >requests???? I'd like for some one from EBS to contact me about selling merchandise on my Hawkman Music web site! Hawkman From stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM Fri Jul 2 15:42:44 1999 From: stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:42:44 -0400 Subject: HW: BADAM - Transatlantic gigging Message-ID: So I'm finally booked to go over to good old blighty in July/Aug Of course my parents think that I'm coming to visit to see them and so they can see their grandaughter again. The fact that Hawkwind are playing "just up the street" while I happen to be in town, would of course be merely "a happy coincidence" (but we know better right 8-) 8-) ) Of course its tempting to think I should aimed for the eclipse performance instead but, hey any HW performance is a great one, particularly at a festival. So having secured my opportunity, I'm curious to know who of all the UK'ers might be heading upto Buxton/BADAM at the end of July ?? After seven (?) years of talking to you lot over email, might be nice to actually meet some of you in the flesh. Any thoughts for a meeting spot/get together ? And for all the rest of the North Americans, well when I see you at Strange Daze 3 I promise not to rub in the fact that'll I'll just have seen the boys (well not too much anyway). Cheers, Steve L From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jul 2 16:22:58 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 16:22:58 EDT Subject: BOC: BRAIN: Helen Wheels in Rochester, NY Message-ID: THE MIGHTY MAC SHERLOCK COMES THROUGH AGAIN!!! MONTY'S KORNER 363 EAST AVE. 263-7650 "<>" From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Fri Jul 2 16:46:09 1999 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 16:46:09 EDT Subject: HW: T/shirts and general merchandise Message-ID: Any chance of the chaos shield T shirt....I think it was the chaos tour........Or the church of hawkwind winged pyramid one ?? I really think the doremi logo on a tye died T would be good !! From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Fri Jul 2 17:21:49 1999 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dave huggins) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:21:49 -0400 Subject: Darxtar Message-ID: Sonique, (and all) Any word on a release of their in-the-can CD? I understand there are some publishing probs, maybe Griffin could carry it? Any hope of wedging them out of their Scandanavian abodes to travel to UK or even SD 99 (or 00;)? I now have three of their CDs (all of em I believe), and they are on my favorite playlist now (still trying to hunt down a local copy of IYA). They are damn good, anyone who doesn't have them should run out and get their CDs before they are completely unavailable - I ran across a copy of Sju in a Tower Record Import sale bin. Good hunting, Dave From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Fri Jul 2 17:21:00 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:21:00 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Stickers Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Nick Lee To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 2:42 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind Stickers >I seem to remember that there were car window stickers available on the '89 >Space Bandits tour (not album tour the year later) featuring the 'fireball' >design with 'Space Bandits' written in the tail. Didn't get one 'cos I >didn't have a car then (doh!). > Same here... =( From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Fri Jul 2 17:23:45 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:23:45 -0400 Subject: BOC: BRAIN: Helen Wheels in Rochester, NY In-Reply-To: Message-ID: DASLUD wrote: >THE MIGHTY MAC SHERLOCK COMES THROUGH AGAIN!!! > >MONTY'S KORNER >363 EAST AVE. > >263-7650 > >"<>" Bravo! Thank you. I gave up my six-year-old Mac recently for a PC. I've found it better from a video game availability standpoint, but that's about all. Brian From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Fri Jul 2 17:27:13 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:27:13 -0400 Subject: HW: T/shirts and general merchandise Message-ID: >Sprawl writes: > >> Interested! >> Unfortunately, our friend Mr Godwin didn't deem t-shirts collectible, so >> I have no idea which ones I would want. >> >> BTW- Are there any Hawkwind 99 disks left? > >Eh? What were the Hawkwind 99 disks? > >FoFP Oh, I may have the name wrong. 96, maybe? The first disc released to passport holders. I never got one because I can't get bloody sterling over here! From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Jul 2 18:22:34 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:22:34 -0700 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Stickers Message-ID: My story is even worse. I DID buy one, and put it on my keyboard case. Then the keyboard, in its case, was stolen from me. :^( :^( On a brighter note, I picked up a fine-looking Doremi-logo (just the text, not the shield) bumper sticker last year at Strange Daze. -Doug ceres at sirius.com On Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:21:00 -0400, Sprawl wrote: >-----Original Message----- >From: Nick Lee >Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 2:42 PM > >>I seem to remember that there were car window stickers available on the '89 >>Space Bandits tour (not album tour the year later) featuring the 'fireball' >>design with 'Space Bandits' written in the tail. Didn't get one 'cos I >>didn't have a car then (doh!). >> > >Same here... =( From clemens at TRAIL.COM Fri Jul 2 18:54:52 1999 From: clemens at TRAIL.COM (Clemens & Associates) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 16:54:52 -0600 Subject: HW: T/shirts and general merchandise Message-ID: Sprawl wrote: >Oh, I may have the name wrong. 96, maybe? The first disc released to >passport holders. >I never got one because I can't get bloody sterling over here! You are thinking of Hawkwind '97, i believe. You can get sterling here, if your 'here' is in the States and you're willing to pay handsomely to a bank that offers that service. A local bank wanted $20 for conversion, but after appealing to my employer's banker he reduced it to $15. The US post office also offers this service, I learned after the fact, for under $10 but it may take up to 2 weeks longer. As for the T-shirts, Kris, I say do it. Maybe even package shirts with new designs in with new releases. Mark From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jul 2 17:42:26 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:42:26 -0400 Subject: HW/OFF: Darxtar Message-ID: Dave said... > Any word on a release of their in-the-can CD? I understand there are >some publishing probs, maybe Griffin could carry it? Any hope of wedging them >out of their Scandanavian abodes to travel to UK or even SD 99 (or 00;)? Certainly not SD'99, but we can start dreaming about the draXters at SD'00. But yeah, Sonique, has there been any transmissions from the fjords lately? "Tombola" should be damn well near finished already...where is it? I second the Griffin notion...has Rob G. been contacted about this possibility? > I now have three of their CDs (all of em I believe), Nope. There's a fourth (you're almost certainly missing the second release, darker). It's way out-of-print now. I very much doubt you can find them anymore, except in an auction or something. It's pretty darn good too, I should point out. And there's also the ltd. ed. CD-R of Live DarXtar w/ Nik Turner (HawXtar). Sonique can tell you about that one. >and they are on my >favorite playlist now (still trying to hunt down a local copy of IYA). Try www.cdquest.com. That's where I got mine. They also have the Dawn of Hawkwind CD. Looks like two versions, $14 for jewel boxed (?), and $18 for the ltd. ed. book w/ CD in back. That's what I got the other day. CD Quest is very quick...I like them. >They are damn good, anyone who doesn't have them should run out and get >their CDs before they are completely unavailable. Too late on 'darker,' eh? Keith H. (FAA) ObTruth: My favourite line in the Dawn of Hawkwind book. Written in 1967 about the Famous Cure: "The business side is still always their weakest side but people don't notice this when they play." Ob_DoH_track: Illusions - early spoken-lyric version of Mirror of Illusion/Mask of Morning. I'll have to play the three back-to-back-to-back some day. Cool evolution. From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Fri Jul 2 19:15:24 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:15:24 -0400 Subject: HW: T/shirts and general merchandise Message-ID: > >You are thinking of Hawkwind '97, i believe. You can get sterling here, if >your 'here' is in the States and you're willing to pay handsomely to a bank >that offers that service. A local bank wanted $20 for conversion, but after >appealing to my employer's banker he reduced it to $15. The US post office >also offers this service, I learned after the fact, for under $10 but it may >take up to 2 weeks longer. Yes on all accounts.. but the post office takes my money, then gives me a form that I have to mail off to who knows where, and wait till they get around to it. That is almost word for word what the lady at the PO said when I called. I said, no thanks. As for the banks.. I am not going to pay them alot of money for -money.- I don't need the CD that badly. !!! If the only way I can get HW material is to go thru this mess, I guess I will have to do without. I mean, I only want a cd, I don't want to expatriate! Thanks anyway, Mark. Sorry for the rant. ;) >As for the T-shirts, Kris, I say do it. Maybe even package shirts with new >designs in with new releases. > >Mark From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Fri Jul 2 19:17:52 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:17:52 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Stickers Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Doug Pearson To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Friday, July 02, 1999 6:28 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind Stickers >My story is even worse. I DID buy one, and put it on my keyboard case. >Then the keyboard, in its case, was stolen from me. :^( :^( Gee, Doug, they stole yer whole keyboard and all, just to get their hands on that sticker?!? I wouldn't put anymore HW stickers on my equip if I were you.. ;) From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jul 2 19:28:05 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:28:05 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind 97 CD? Message-ID: Kris (or anyone else in the know): Can the great unwashed masses order this CD, or must you be one of the have-jumped-through-the-hoops passport holders?? I am one of the former, but would like a copy of this CD. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Jul 2 21:02:35 1999 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 21:02:35 -0400 Subject: BOC on VH1 Message-ID: theo said: >Down side is that we're unlikely to hear anything from Al, the band >member who would have the most [and most interesting] stuff to >tell... that's right. i will not be in the show. can't stand those "where are they now?" shows. I will be in the Jan 00 issue of Modern Drummer though. Al From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Fri Jul 2 22:29:39 1999 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:29:39 -0700 Subject: HW: T/shirts and general merchandise Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:15:24 Sprawl wrote: >If the only way I can get HW material is to go thru this mess, I guess I >will have to do without. >I mean, I only want a cd, I don't want to expatriate! Just do what I did. Send US cash. I sent $23 in the envelope with the fill-ed out passport, photos, and 3 IRCs. Had the CD in less than 2 weeks. I know at least one other person on BOC-L did the same.... MWood NP: Sky Cries Mary - _Exit at the Axis_ --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. From corwyn2 at MINDSPRING.COM Sat Jul 3 01:18:50 1999 From: corwyn2 at MINDSPRING.COM (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 01:18:50 -0400 Subject: Off: Blind Man Sun Message-ID: I have just acquired an album from the group Blind Man Sun from NJ. Amazing opus. 130 minuets (called Of the Spheres). It has everything from Metal . jazz. classical. Canterbury. phish. dead. fusion influences. I cannot recommend them enough for those who like their cutting edge progressive. They have a web site as well with MP3 files. This is their second album to date. www. blindmansun.com Go there. Mike PS not affiliated with the band in any way... picked up the cd in a used store here in upstate NY From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Fri Jul 2 22:38:52 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 02:38:52 +0000 Subject: BOC: BRAIN: Helen Wheels in Rochester, NY Message-ID: Ted Jackson jr. s2h2 wrote: > > > From: Brian Halligan > > If anyone's interested in catching the show, I'll try to find out where > > "Monty's Korner" is. It's not in the yellow pages.... > > Hell yeah! I believe HW played at the Wolf Inn here in Syr. > recently, but I couldn't make it... > > theo In your dreams, theo - and in ours! 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The Peoples Computer > is definitely the Mac, the Volkswagon Bus vs. the Dodge Caravan, Hawkwind vs. > Barry Manilow... > > Chris Bruce ^^^^ Now that's corporate loyalty for ya! Just kidding really. I like Macs alot better myself, though I switched to a PC a year and a half ago simply because it was getting expensive and difficult not to. (though I almost bought a MAC 512K for $3 in a thrift store yesterday!) I'm sure Apple Computer would be plenty evil if they were bigger. Macintoshes could be thought of the Beetle though I guess...the new beetle. They look like iMacs! Their commercials are the same too. i apologize if this turns into the inevitable MAC/PC debate that every list has to have. From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Sat Jul 3 06:33:10 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 20:33:10 +1000 Subject: Darxtar Message-ID: On 2 Jul 99, at 17:21, dave huggins wrote: > Sonique, (and all) > > Any word on a release of their in-the-can CD? I understand there are some > publishing probs, maybe Griffin could carry it? Any hope of wedging them > out of their Scandanavian abodes to travel to UK or even SD 99 (or 00;)? Well, Tombola is well and truly recorded and mixed, but at this stage they still don't have a label (unless something has happened in the last few weeks). Griffin's not a bad idea, but I have a feeling that it wouldn't work out for them. As to a tour - I know they would tour Australia if it paid for their bed and breakfast, so the US wouldn't be out of the question ... the difficulty of course is paying for the airfares ... you'd never get a promoter interested I'm afraid (it was hard enough with Hawkwind for the ill- fated Hawkwind Oz Tour) > I now have three of their CDs (all of em I believe), Nup. That's not all. I bet you don't have "darker" - the 2nd release. It's not at all possible to get that these days, which is a real shame because it is a wonderful CD. There's also a tape release entitled "starlog 1990-94" which was a compilation of tracks from the first 3 CD's and a few live cuts (such as UFO). And then there was the HawXtar CD-R with Nik Turner (For those who don't know, the 1st, 3rd and 4th albums were "Darxtar", "Daybreak" and "Sju") > and they are on my > favorite playlist now (still trying to hunt down a local copy of IYA). > They are damn good, anyone who doesn't have them should run out and get > their CDs before they are completely unavailable - I ran across a copy of > Sju in a Tower Record Import sale bin. That was luck! (If anyone is after darXtar CD's, I have copies of Darxtar (just one or two), Daybreak and Sju for $25 Australian dollars (that's about $16 US) available through "Sonic Bilby" - http://sonique.net/bilby) Soniqu? -- PO Box 378 Paul Ward Ashburton http://sonique.net VIC 3147 (time permitting) Mob:0418 524744 sonique at sonique.net From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Jul 3 19:55:29 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 19:55:29 EDT Subject: HW: a few CDs for Trade Message-ID: I have extra copies of: Space Ritual 2 (Magnum, sealed cut-out) Masters of the Universe (Magnum, sealed cut-out) Space Bandits (Castle Comm, used) For trade or $6 each... Thanks, Chuck From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Sun Jul 4 07:19:23 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 12:19:23 +0100 Subject: HW: Glastonbury 1981 Message-ID: Hawkwind did play last. New Order played before us and over ran. We did 40-60 minutes of our set before the curfuw kicked in. We were asked very nicely by both Michael Evis and the police who were back stage if we would finish or else Michael risked heavy fines. The laser display and the fireworks were ours we had some lasers during the set but were saving the best until the end and the fireworks never had a chance to happen. Don't know what was in that cider...............!!!!! Hawkwind ---------- > > Assuming that the statute of limitations is up, I could admit the truth. > > It was our first Glastonbury and we'd cycled there from Stonehenge where > Hawkwind had played the night before to a rather small audience and had > chatted to us after the gig. > > We bought a large flagon of cider from the back of a farmer's wagon and > this turned out to be rather lethal. Hawkwind were in fact on before New > Order and we made our way down to the front of the metal Pyramid Stage. > Early in the gig Brock promised Silver Machine for the encore with some > lasers and fireworks. > > Unfortunately at the end of the set the organisers announced that there > was a midnight curfew and New Order would have to begin setting up > immediately and therefore there'd be no Hawkwind encore. > > Unsurprisingly most fans believed that sufficient chanting of "Hawkwind" > would disabuse them of this outrageous notion and a goodly amount of > this can be heard at the end of the audience tape of the gig. Perhaps > unfortunately I banged the now almost empty cider flagon on the sheet > metal of the Pyramid Stage to punctuate the chant. This produced rather > a tasty booming noise which wasn't lost on the rest of the fans at the > front and they started banging their bottles onto the metal by way of > percussional accompaniment to the chant. This made an even more tasty > booming noise. It was all pretty good natured. > > The problem probably arose because the band, organisers and perhaps even > security were inside the pyramid and this must have been similar to > lying in a biscuit tin with someone banging on the lid. > > By the time around 20 security types had congregated to discourage this, > we'd reached a vantage point up the hill a ways, attracted by someone > playing "Blake's New Jerusalem" from a speaker powered by a small truck. > As far as we could see, the "riot" amounted to the security types > rushing the front of the stage and pushing folks back so that they > couldn't bang on it. I daresay it's possible that some punches were > thrown in the melee but I doubt it could reasonably be classed a "riot". > > Of course they never did play Silver Machine, never mind a twenty minute > version of it. > > In the end New Order did a very good set and the lasers did look quite > good once it was dark. I remember them playing off a large electricity > pylon a little ways off from the campfire we'd adopted at the invitation > of the Tim Blake fan. > > The most trouble I remember that year was someone throwing something at > Ginger Baker which drew blood from his nose, and some idiots who trashed > and set fire to the only semi-reasonable toilets on the site. > > FoFP > > P.S: I think the Glastonbury Programme is still available from the > organisers. See www.glastonbury-festival.co.uk From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Jul 4 07:25:15 1999 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 13:25:15 +0200 Subject: Live 76 CDR Message-ID: Hi Dave! Did you receive the Live 76 CDR by now? If yes, what do you think of it? The Dawn of Hawkwind CD really is beautiful. Tracks 9 & 10 (Bottle up/Diamond ring) sound like they?ve been recorded just recently though - I can?t believe that they?re from the late 60s! True? I like them pretty much nonetheless, only a bit short. Cheers, Andreas From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Jul 4 13:21:22 1999 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 19:21:22 +0200 Subject: Live 76 CDR Message-ID: Hi Dave! Did you receive the Live 76 CDR by now? If yes, what do you think of it? The Dawn of Hawkwind CD really is beautiful. Tracks 9 & 10 (Bottle up/Diamond ring) sound like they?ve been recorded just recently though - I can?t believe that they?re from the late 60s! True? I like them pretty much nonetheless, only a bit short. And the fotos and stuff in the booklet are fascinating. Well done. Cheers, Andreas From dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET Sun Jul 4 14:15:05 1999 From: dhuggins at HYPERNOVA.NET (dhuggins) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 14:15:05 -0400 Subject: Live 76 CDR In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Andreas, Which Dave? (hehe) Serioulsly, I didn't know that the live 76 cd was out yet. Did I miss something? One Dave (of many) At 01:25 PM 7/4/99 +0200, you wrote: >Hi Dave! > >Did you receive the Live 76 CDR by now? If yes, what do you think of it? > >The Dawn of Hawkwind CD really is beautiful. Tracks 9 & 10 (Bottle up/Diamond >ring) sound like they?ve been recorded just recently though - I can?t believe >that they?re from the late 60s! True? I like them pretty much nonetheless, >only a >bit short. > >Cheers, > >Andreas From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Jul 4 20:15:51 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 20:15:51 EDT Subject: OFF: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" Set-List Message-ID: "Space Does Not Care", 7/3/99, 88.3 KUCR, EVERY Sat. night 7-9 PST ---Hey, look it's finally weekly, though 7-9 now, instead of 9-11. Still no Web action, but we're supposed to be hooked up soon... 1.Spiral Realms--Trip to G9 2.Dead Flowers--Elephant's Eye Was Eerie 3.Hawkwind--Aerospaceage Inferno (live, In Your Area) 4.The Shamen--Master Builder (remix from Gong's "You Remixed") 5.Add N to X--King Wasp (I know I played this last week, but it was totally essential to play it this week--after all, the guy who's slot I'm replacing had a blues/soul show, and I knew people would be listening for that, so it was to aid the transition, plus it's a fun song anyway, and obviously bridges the gap absurdly between blues and electronic music.) 6.Zappa/Mothers--Here Lies Love (a "real" blues) 7.Amon Duul II--Little Tornadoes (Live in London) 8.Helios Creed--Some Way Out/The Dream/The Diplomat 9.Guru Guru--Electric Junk 10.Melting Euphoria--Astral Nemesis 11.Legendary Pink Dots--Evolution (Live, from Space Daze anthology) 12.The Tea Party--Raven Skies 13.ST-37--Concrete Island 14.Edgar Froese--Panorphelia 15.F/i--Robot (Hi, Doug! :) 16.Brian Eno--Here Come the Warm Jets 17.Hawkwind--Silver Machine (orig. single mix) Thanks, Chuck From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 5 05:46:25 1999 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 02:46:25 PDT Subject: BOC on VH1 Message-ID: >>theo said: >>Down side is that we're unlikely to hear anything from Al >tell... > >Albert T Bouchard replied: >I will be in the Jan 00 issue of Modern Drummer though. I hope you get an advance copy _this_ year, 'cos it will be difficult to pick up a copy of that magazine (or indeed any other) after Armageddon, which, as we all know, will start quietly but end swiftly......on New Years' Eve this year. Chris. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jul 5 07:18:20 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 12:18:20 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Stickers In-Reply-To: Randy's message of Fri, 2 Jul 1999 12:38:41 -0500 Message-ID: Randy writes: > Just think...Space is only 100 miles away...straight up....... The problem is that unless you can get 17,000 miles per hour sideways speed, it's 100 miles straight back down again to a collision with a planet. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jul 5 07:22:04 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 12:22:04 +0100 Subject: HW: BADAM - Transatlantic gigging In-Reply-To: Stephen Lindsey's message of Fri, 2 Jul 1999 15:42:44 -0400 Message-ID: Stephen Lindsey writes: > So having secured my opportunity, I'm curious to know who of all the > UK'ers might be heading upto Buxton/BADAM at the end of July ?? After > seven (?) years of talking to you lot over email, might be nice to actually > meet some of you in the flesh. Any thoughts for a meeting spot/get together ? I'll be there. I'd suggest that since Andy Garibaldi will have a stall there, we meet there and make ourselves known to Andy. How 'bout 5pm on the Saturday? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jul 5 07:37:13 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 12:37:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Glastonbury 1981 In-Reply-To: XXX's message of Sun, 4 Jul 1999 12:19:23 +0100 Message-ID: XXX writes: > Hawkwind did play last. New Order played before us and over ran. We did > 40-60 minutes of our set before the curfuw kicked in. We were asked very > nicely > by both Michael Evis and the police who were back stage if we would finish > or else Michael risked heavy fines. The laser display and the fireworks > were ours we had some lasers during the set but were saving the best until > the end and the fireworks never had a chance to happen. Don't know what was > in > that cider...............!!!!! Just cider, though it was certainly very strong cider and inimical to the project of staying upright. It's strange that I remember New Order as coming after Hawkwind though. FoFP From pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jul 5 10:14:44 1999 From: pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM (Juha Nurmenniemi) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 07:14:44 PDT Subject: Darxtar Message-ID: Hi! Don?t forget the CD by former Darxtar bass player Juba. The band is called Pseudo Sun and the CD "Future Memoirs" >From: dave huggins >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Subject: Darxtar >Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:21:49 -0400 > >Sonique, (and all) > > Any word on a release of their in-the-can CD? I understand there >are some >publishing probs, maybe Griffin could carry it? Any hope of wedging them >out of their Scandanavian abodes to travel to UK or even SD 99 (or 00;)? > > I now have three of their CDs (all of em I believe), and they are >on my >favorite playlist now (still trying to hunt down a local copy of IYA). >They are damn good, anyone who doesn't have them should run out and get >their CDs before they are completely unavailable - I ran across a copy of >Sju in a Tower Record Import sale bin. > > > Good hunting, > > Dave ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jul 5 11:34:06 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 16:34:06 +0100 Subject: T/shirts and general merchandise In-Reply-To: Brian Coulthard's message of Fri, 2 Jul 1999 19:05:41 +0100 Message-ID: Brian Coulthard writes: > Hello all > I know its pre 84 but one of my most prized possesions is a rather > unwearable Sonic Attack Baseball Shirt which I think is the last word in > satorial cool. I've got a leather band with 'Hawkwind' on it and a wonderful bead bracelet with the Hawkwind name embeaded within it. Never worn either but I'm proud of both! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Mon Jul 5 12:13:53 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 1999 17:13:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: BOC-L TAPE SWAP 99 Message-ID: Another update to the web listing at; http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot/boc99.htm Seventeen tapes listed and I've still only received 1:-( I assume that everyone knows that you listen to the tape and pass it on? SAH NP The Marshall Tucker band - Encore Collection -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com "Never Judge A Man (Until You're Standing In His Shoes)" From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jul 6 04:34:38 1999 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 09:34:38 +0100 Subject: HW: BADAM - Transatlantic gigging Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: M Holmes To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Monday, July 05, 1999 12:22 PM Subject: Re: HW: BADAM - Transatlantic gigging > Stephen Lindsey writes: > > > So having secured my opportunity, I'm curious to know who of all the > > UK'ers might be heading upto Buxton/BADAM at the end of July ?? After > > seven (?) years of talking to you lot over email, might be nice to actually > > meet some of you in the flesh. Any thoughts for a meeting spot/get together ? > > I'll be there. I'd suggest that since Andy Garibaldi will have a stall > there, we meet there and make ourselves known to Andy. How 'bout 5pm on > the Saturday? Anyone is welcome to say hello if thay can spot my Land Rover, hard to miss 'cos its got a shabby faded green canvas top and much of the green paint has been sanded down to bare aluminium. Just ask for Neil and say 'newsgroup'. Neil. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jul 6 07:51:15 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 07:51:15 EDT Subject: BOC: BRAIN: Helen Wheels in Rochester, NY In-Reply-To: <377D77BC.F602AEBF@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: > From: Christopher Bruce > Ted Jackson jr. s2h2 wrote: > > > > > From: Brian Halligan > > > If anyone's interested in catching the show, I'll try to find out where > > > "Monty's Korner" is. It's not in the yellow pages.... > > > > Hell yeah! I believe HW played at the Wolf Inn here in Syr. > > recently, but I couldn't make it... > > > > theo > > In your dreams, theo - and in ours! > By HW, I was meaning Helen Wheels, not the obvious HW... theo From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Tue Jul 6 08:47:29 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 08:47:29 -0400 Subject: BOC: Upcoming Sony Compilation Message-ID: Someone mentioned the upcoming BOC compilation that should be out soon (although I haven't yet seen it available for pre-order on CDNOW.com), and the fact that Eric polled the AOL crowd about what should be on it. Before you all get really excited about any BOC rarities or cool tracks that the die-hard fans would want, I should point out that the ground rules for that poll were that the fans were asked what songs Joe Q. Public would most want to hear. In other words, "Don't Fear the Reaper", "Godzilla", and "Burnin' For You" will probably be the first 3 tracks. And, while I expect that this disc will be good (rumor has it that the tracks will be REMASTERED), don't expect to hear "Mistress of the Salmon Salt", "Monsters", "Nosferatu", "Morning Final", or any sort of rare demo or live tracks -- all of which, I suspect, would be on a compilation that would be hand-picked by die-hard fans of BOC who already have at least 5 CDs in their collection with "The Big 3" on them. John From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Tue Jul 6 09:27:17 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 09:27:17 -0400 Subject: Upcoming New England Show Message-ID: Anyone have any info on the Aug 25th show in Weir's Beach at the Buzzard's Nest? From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Tue Jul 6 09:57:08 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 09:57:08 -0400 Subject: Upcoming Sony Compilation Message-ID: Only 5? Slackers! > ---------- > From: John A. Swartz[SMTP:jswartz at MITRE.ORG] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 8:47 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: BOC: Upcoming Sony Compilation > > Someone mentioned the upcoming BOC compilation that should be out > soon (although I haven't yet seen it available for pre-order on > CDNOW.com), and the fact that Eric polled the AOL crowd about what > should be on it. Before you all get really excited about any BOC > rarities or cool tracks that the die-hard fans would want, I should > point out that the ground rules for that poll were that the fans were > asked what songs Joe Q. Public would most want to hear. In other words, > "Don't Fear the Reaper", "Godzilla", and "Burnin' For You" will probably > be the first 3 tracks. And, while I expect that this disc will be good > (rumor has it that the tracks will be REMASTERED), don't expect to hear > "Mistress of the Salmon Salt", "Monsters", "Nosferatu", "Morning Final", > or any sort of rare demo or live tracks -- all of which, I suspect, > would be on a compilation that would be hand-picked by die-hard fans of > BOC who already have at least 5 CDs in their collection with "The Big 3" > on them. > > John > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jul 6 10:47:44 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:47:44 EDT Subject: Upcoming Sony Compilation In-Reply-To: <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD021CF403@emss05m03.sanders.lmco.com> Message-ID: > > From: John A. Swartz[SMTP:jswartz at MITRE.ORG] > > Someone mentioned the upcoming BOC compilation that should be out > > soon (although I haven't yet seen it available for pre-order on > > CDNOW.com), and the fact that Eric polled the AOL crowd about what > > should be on it. Before you all get really excited about any BOC > > rarities or cool tracks that the die-hard fans would want, I should > > point out that the ground rules for that poll were that the fans were > > asked what songs Joe Q. Public would most want to hear. Wonder if this shameless glomming on is an indication that HF did well enough for sony to want one more pull on the teat? I've read that BOC has the green light for another CMC disc. Must be sony figures there's enough interest to warrant another try? 'Course it costs sony almost nothing to toss out another comp. disc. Remastered? Keep dreaming! Sony wants to spend about twenty cents on the whole thing... theo From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Tue Jul 6 11:27:31 1999 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (James A Hogard) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:27:31 -0500 Subject: OFF: BOC-L TAPE SWAP 99 Message-ID: Stuart sez: >Seventeen tapes listed and I've still only received 1:-( I assume >that >everyone knows that you listen to the tape and pass it on? I have one as well; is there some sort of schedule that we're supposed to be following? Hogard From adrian.brevard at EDS.COM Tue Jul 6 12:11:49 1999 From: adrian.brevard at EDS.COM (Brevard, Adrian R) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:11:49 -0400 Subject: OFF: Nice and Loud Message-ID: => I've got 18th row for ABB at the NYS Fair in August--and 12th row for => Jeff Beck the very next night! Dude you forgot to mention which type of ear plugs you endorse. Saw Beck and Santana on the same bill a few summers ago. Place was Wolftrap a National Park. Awesome place for a show. Very cozy and unbelievable accoustics. Its rigth in the middle of a very affluent neighborhood so the park operators have to obey all kinds of noise restrictions. Beck exceeded them by almost 100%. Was warned to turn down the volume (two gigs back to back) and wouldn't you know it, only exceed tolerances by 90% for the second gig. Never before has an earache felt sooooo good. Theo, I was more than a 150 feet away from the stage and he almost ruptured my spleen. >Oh, man, I remember that one. I was just joining the list when that >happened...Dr. Bob--what became of him? He was one funny dude! Oh he's still around, I talk to him occassionally. He's a really righteous dude if you get to know him. Guess we are kindered spirits as both he and I were the primary targets of the previously mentioned flame wars. L8er Ghost in the Ruins NP - Brian Setzer Orchestra - Guitar Slinger PS - Ted, thanks for the info on the new Sony. Any idea which cuts made the cut? If fan influenced it'll be good. From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Tue Jul 6 12:11:34 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:11:34 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: Darxtar Message-ID: And you can find it reviewed, along with with contact details on my ever so splendid Zeitgeist e-zine at www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamefaced self serving plug mode over. SAH NP Samael - Eternal > From: Juha Nurmenniemi >Hi! >Don?t forget the CD by former Darxtar bass player Juba. >The band is called Pseudo Sun and the CD "Future Memoirs" >From: dave huggins >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Subject: Darxtar >Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 17:21:49 -0400 > >Sonique, (and all) > > Any word on a release of their in-the-can CD? I understand there >are some >publishing probs, maybe Griffin could carry it? Any hope of wedging them >out of their Scandanavian abodes to travel to UK or even SD 99 (or 00;)? > > I now have three of their CDs (all of em I believe), and they are >on my >favorite playlist now (still trying to hunt down a local copy of IYA). >They are damn good, anyone who doesn't have them should run out and get >their CDs before they are completely unavailable - I ran across a copy of >Sju in a Tower Record Import sale bin. > > > Good hunting, > > Dave -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com "Never Judge A Man (Until You're Standing In His Shoes)" From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jul 6 07:34:29 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:34:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Glastonbury 1981 In-Reply-To: <199907051137.MAA28900@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <199907051137.MAA28900 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >Just cider, though it was certainly very strong cider and inimical to >the project of staying upright. It's strange that I remember New Order >as coming after Hawkwind though. > >FoFP That'll be "time becoming a loop" again. Gotta watch out for the Moebius Trip, eh? -- Jon From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jul 6 13:04:18 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 13:04:18 EDT Subject: OFF: Nice and Loud In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: "Brevard, Adrian R" > > Dude you forgot to mention which type of ear plugs you endorse. Saw Beck > and Santana on the same bill a few summers ago. Place was Wolftrap a > National Park. Awesome place for a show. Very cozy and unbelievable > accoustics. Its rigth in the middle of a very affluent neighborhood so the > park operators have to obey all kinds of noise restrictions. > > Beck exceeded them by almost 100%. Was warned to turn down the volume (two > gigs back to back) and wouldn't you know it, only exceed tolerances by 90% > for the second gig. Never before has an earache felt sooooo good. Theo, I > was more than a 150 feet away from the stage and he almost ruptured my > spleen. > Hmm...I was 5th row at Saratoga for a show on that tour, and didn't have any trouble with the noise. It's strange, as JB suffers from tinnitus--you'd think he would play with fewer dbs. At any rate, I'll be using protection--for my hearing, ya know! theo From Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Tue Jul 6 16:12:55 1999 From: Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Nik Lowenberg) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:12:55 -0400 Subject: Subject: HW: Hawkwind Tape Message-ID: I'm getting a Hawkwind tape pretty soon marked Bristol, Colston Hall 9/27/76. This show isn't marked on either of the lists of existing tapes I can find. Does anybody know if this show is for real or is it mis-marked? -Nik From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Tue Jul 6 17:27:21 1999 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:27:21 -0500 Subject: Subject: HW: Hawkwind Tape Message-ID: > From: Nik Lowenberg > Subject: Subject: HW: Hawkwind Tape > I'm getting a Hawkwind tape pretty soon marked Bristol, Colston Hall > 9/27/76. This show isn't marked on either of the lists of existing tapes I > can find. Does anybody know if this show is for real or is it > mis-marked? >From http://www.enteract.com/~weil/golden_void/gigs/gigs1976.html it is a real show. I don't have the set list from it, though, so I would appreciate it if you could type it in and send it to me. Thanks, Frank -- 1010011010 - Binary Number of the Beast ============================================================ Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Tue Jul 6 17:44:32 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (David G) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:44:32 +0100 Subject: Subject: HW: Hawkwind Tape Message-ID: It's definitely for real, I blew the dust off my copy to prove it. I think there are two versions of this tape (maybe the codex people can confirm?) One seems to be a desk tape which is reasonable quality, the other, which a friend of mine has, is either many generations removed or an audience tape. dave Nik Lowenberg wrote: > I'm getting a Hawkwind tape pretty soon marked Bristol, Colston Hall > 9/27/76. This show isn't marked on either of the lists of existing tapes I > can find. Does anybody know if this show is for real or is it > mis-marked? > > -Nik From Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Tue Jul 6 16:40:39 1999 From: Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Nik Lowenberg) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 16:40:39 -0400 Subject: Subject: HW: Hawkwind Tape Message-ID: Frank Weil wrote: > From http://www.enteract.com/~weil/golden_void/gigs/gigs1976.html > it is a real show. I don't have the set list from it, though, so > I would appreciate it if you could type it in and send it to me. Yeah, I knew they played there, but I wasn't sure that the tape was circulating. I should get the show in the mail in a couple days, more info then! -Nik ----------------------- Nik Lowenberg wrote: > > I'm getting a Hawkwind tape pretty soon marked Bristol, Colston Hall > > 9/27/76. This show isn't marked on either of the lists of existing tapes I > > can find. Does anybody know if this show is for real or is it > > mis-marked? > From Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Tue Jul 6 20:19:03 1999 From: Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Nik Lowenberg) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 20:19:03 -0400 Subject: Subject: HW: Hawkwind Tape Message-ID: I also have some other questions. Hawkwind gig in Touluse '75, there are some discrepancies in all the different lists available about this gig. One lists it as 6/20/75 and another lists it as 6/23/75. Then on Adrian Parr's website 6/23/75 is listed as being in Paris. What is the correct date? Also, where was the show held at? Only mention of the venue on any of the lists is "Festival". Any info would be appreciated. Also, I don't have this tape, so if you want to help me out out.... -Nik http://homepages.go.com/~hawkwind7/index_alpha2.html From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jul 6 22:23:51 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:23:51 -0400 Subject: HW/OFF: Ozrics tour (finally) Message-ID: Hi Folks...FYI. Keith H. (FAA) Ozric Tentacles US tour (with the Star People) July 7 Boston, MA Paradise Rock Club (617-562-8801) July 8 Philadelphia,PA Theatre of Living Arts (215-922-1011) July 9 New York, NY Wetlands Preserve (212-966-4225) July 10 New York, NY Wetlands Preserve July 11 West Springfield, VA Jaxx Niteclub (703-569-5940) July 13 Atlanta, GA The Variety Playhouse (414-524-7354) July 14 Winston-Salem, NC Ziggy's (336-748-0810) July 15 Towson, MD Recher Theater (410-547-7598) July 16 Cleveland, OH Odeon Concert Club (216-574-6328) July 17 Detroit, MI The Majestic (313-833-9700) July 18 Chicago, IL House Of Blues (312-923-2011) July 20 Milwaukee, WI Shank Hall (414-276-7288) July 21 Minneapolis, MN First Avenue (612-338-8407) July 22 St Louis, MO Mississippi Nights (314-421-3853) July 24 Boulder, CO Fox Theatre (303-447-0095) July 25 Boulder, CO Fox Theatre July 27 Ventura, CA Ventura Theatre (805-965-2231) July 29 West Hollywood, CA House Of Blues (323-848-5700)(also w/ Nexus 6) July 30 Santa Cruz, CA Palookaville (831-454-0600) July 31 San Francisco, CA Great American Music Hall (415-885-0750) From SHLL at NOVO.DK Wed Jul 7 06:12:38 1999 From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:12:38 +0200 Subject: HW: Cornwall 99' Message-ID: Hej, This event is suppose to be only one month away. Is it happeing or is it Hawkwind, and no one will know until the last minute? I want to come but time is getting short..... The Sept gigs should be confirmed soon too, I hope... Still waiting for Dawn of Hawkwind.... scott From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 7 07:02:56 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:02:56 +0100 Subject: HW: Glastonbury 1981 Message-ID: [My memories of the Glastonbury '81 riot including a false memory New Order playing after Hawkwind...] > Hawkwind did play last. New Order played before us and over ran. We > did 40-60 minutes of our set before the curfew kicked in. We were > asked very nicely by both Michael Evis and the police who were back > stage if we would finish or else Michael risked heavy fines. The > laser display and the fireworks were ours we had some lasers during > the set but were saving the best until the end and the fireworks never > had a chance to happen. Checked my copy of an audience tape of the event last night and sure enough, after Brainstorm, Dave comes on and explains that they've gone over the curfew and Michael Eavis has asked them to come off without an encore. ObKarma: In the audience chant at the end of the tape I can quite clearly hear myself. Unfortunately I can also hear myself whooping at the start of Brainstorm. The interesting thing is that it causes an annoying drop in the recording level of the tape, indicating that the person recording was very close. I suspect that the NME reporter who picked me up after I fell over (the flagon of farmer's scrumpy...) may have been the guy doing the tape or possibly the recorder was lying on the stage just above us. Does anyone know the history of that audience tape? > Don't know what was in that > cider...............!!!!! It's the Ciderspace Conspiracy. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 7 07:04:34 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:04:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Glastonbury 1981 In-Reply-To: Jon Browne's message of Tue, 6 Jul 1999 12:34:29 +0100 Message-ID: Jon Browne writes: > In article <199907051137.MAA28900 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes > writes > >Just cider, though it was certainly very strong cider and inimical to > >the project of staying upright. It's strange that I remember New Order > >as coming after Hawkwind though. > > > >FoFP > > That'll be "time becoming a loop" again. > > Gotta watch out for the Moebius Trip, eh? Which side are you on? > Jon FoFP From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Wed Jul 7 07:22:14 1999 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:22:14 +0200 Subject: AW: Subject: HW: Hawkwind Tape Message-ID: Hi >It's definitely for real, I blew the dust off my copy to prove it. I think >there are two versions of this tape (maybe the codex people can confirm?) One >seems to be a desk tape which is reasonable quality, the other, which a friend >of mine has, is either many generations removed or an audience tape. I know that there is only one tape known. It is a mixingdesk tape with superb quality. It is not identical with the following tapes from the Astounding tour: - 18.09.76 Machester - 02.10.76 Ipswich - 04.10.76 Leicester - 05.10.76 Hammersmith You can identify the "Bristol, 27.09.76" tape very easy. There is a very big mistake at the beginning of BACK ON THE STREETS. Dave had to start the starting guitar-riff for a 2nd time The only difference between all the tapes of that gig is the length. The longer tape has a short (2 minutes) instrumental before STEPPENWOLF cheers Bernhard From adrian.brevard at EDS.COM Wed Jul 7 09:27:55 1999 From: adrian.brevard at EDS.COM (Brevard, Adrian R) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:27:55 -0400 Subject: BOC: Sony Comp. Message-ID: Someone mentioned the upcoming BOC compilation that should be out > soon (although I haven't yet seen it available for pre-order on > CDNOW.com), and the fact that Eric polled the AOL crowd about what > should be on it. Before you all get really excited about any BOC > rarities or cool tracks that the die-hard fans would want, I should > point out that the ground rules for that poll were that the fans were > asked what songs Joe Q. Public would most want to hear. In other words, > "Don't Fear the Reaper", "Godzilla", and "Burnin' For You" will probably > be the first 3 tracks. And, while I expect that this disc will be good > (rumor has it that the tracks will be REMASTERED), don't expect to hear > "Mistress of the Salmon Salt", "Monsters", "Nosferatu", "Morning Final", > or any sort of rare demo or live tracks -- all of which, I suspect, > would be on a compilation that would be hand-picked by die-hard fans of > BOC who already have at least 5 CDs in their collection with "The Big 3" > on them. > > John Fair enough. I don't expect "What is Quicksand" to appear on this, everything from the official catalog. As long as the fans provided some guidance we should still be treated to some pretty good songs. Count the big three out of 16 tracks and you still have room to use at least one song from every album, maybe even something from Imaginos. >Remastered? Keep dreaming! Sony wants to spend about twenty cents on the whole thing... Dude, granted Sony are some cheap bastids, spending even twenty cents on an another On Flame, Superhits...yada yada yada would be pointless even for them. Metal Edge says they will be remastered. Gotta figure sales of HF and possibly the MoFi set has convinced Sony there are a few more drops of blue blood to squeeze from the Oysterboys. >Hmm...I was 5th row at Saratoga for a show on that tour, and didn't have any trouble with the noise. It's strange, as JB suffers from tinnitus--you'd think he would play with fewer dbs. At any rate, I'll be using protection--for my hearing, ya know! 'OK but enquiring minds (namely me) still would like to know what specific type of ear protection you use. Do use one type when doing gigs and another when sitting in the fifth row? I'm getting old so one day I would like to hear my grand kids call me "grandpa". Hehehehehehehehehehehe L8er Ghost in the Ruins NP - Queen - Night At The Opera From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed Jul 7 09:39:58 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:39:58 -0400 Subject: BOC: New England and Compilation Message-ID: > Anyone have any info on the Aug 25th show in Weir's Beach at the Buzzard's > Nest? No, other than it *might* not happen. Eric posted last week on AOL that the Uncasville, CT show (at Mohegan Sun - either the day before or the day after the Weir's Beach show) was likely to be moved to November -- and if it did, there was a chance the Weir's Beach show might be affected. Stay tuned... Referring to how many CDs we all have with "The Big 3"... > Only 5? Slackers! Well, that way I could include even the casual fans... ;-) > Wonder if this shameless glomming on is an indication that HF did > well enough for sony to want one more pull on the teat? Probably. Hey, that's a pretty good slogan for Sony: "SONY: Pulling on the BOC teat for over 10 years..." > I've read > that BOC has the green light for another CMC disc. Hopefully we'll hear some more rumblings about this soon... I was hearing that this disc would come out sometime in 2000, so as that year approaches, we'll at least have to hear if it's being pushed back or not. ;-) > 'Course it > costs sony almost nothing to toss out another comp. disc. > Remastered? Keep dreaming! Sony wants to spend about twenty cents > on the whole thing... I would suspect that as well. Bolle seems to think that it will be remastered, although I don't recall hearing anyone else say that the tracks would be. Bolle is still hoping that someday the albums will all be remastered and seems pretty optimistic for someone who understands the business reasonably well. Personally, I'd be a bit surprised if Sony bends over backwards for this release. On the other hand, I just don't get how all of these miscellaneous BOC compilations are really that profitable for them. *Workshop of the Telescopes* is an exception as it is a reasonably complete package (sure, there are notable exceptions, but it still is quite representative) and presumably had a bit of a push behind it (Sony adding a few "previously unavailable on CD" tracks, as well as space on their website for the release). But all of Sony's other compilations - such as "Revisited", "On Flame with Rock and Roll", "Don't Fear the Reaper", and especially the horribly packaged "Super Hits" (my 2-year old could have drawn a cooler cover) offer very little to the casual listener over other BOC offerings. And really, how many copies are they going to sell to the die-hard collectors like me? If this CD is to be any different, I would think that Sony would at least have to advertise a little for it -- otherwise, it will look no different to the casual listener passing the BOC section in the CD racks... John -- John A. Swartz - The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA - jswartz at mitre.org "Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to Anger - Anger leads to Hate - HATE leads to SUFFERING." -- Yoda (Star Wars: Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace) From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Jul 7 09:57:13 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 09:57:13 -0400 Subject: Earplugs (was Re: BOC: Sony Comp.) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Brevard, Adrian R wrote: => 'OK but enquiring minds (namely me) still would like to know what specific => type of ear protection you use. Do use one type when doing gigs and another => when sitting in the fifth row? I'm getting old so one day I would like to => hear my grand kids call me "grandpa". Hehehehehehehehehehehe FWIW, I use Sonic II's, which I bought at a local music shop. They have a flatter frequency response than the foam types (i.e., they sound less muffled), but are less comfortable to wear. Nevertheless, I recommend them highly. Cheers, Paul. NP: Fairport Convention, _Unhalfbricking_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 7 10:56:05 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:56:05 +0100 Subject: OFF: buying a soundcard Message-ID: I know that there are some PC music experts on this list so... I'm looking to buy a soundcard with a good A/D converter for input. So far the two which look good at a sane price are the Event Darla (275 Dollars) and the Turtle Beach Fiji (175 Pounds). Are there others I should look at or does anyone know of somewhere selling these at lower prices than this? The online specs don't list this but presumably all soundcards will come with onboard clips for connectors to a CD-ROM drive and hopefully a spare for the TV tuner card? Cheers FoFP From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jul 7 11:01:25 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 11:01:25 EDT Subject: BOC: Sony Comp. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: "Brevard, Adrian R" > >Remastered? Keep dreaming! Sony wants to spend about twenty cents > on the whole thing... > > Dude, granted Sony are some cheap bastids, spending even twenty cents on an > another On Flame, Superhits...yada yada yada would be pointless even for > them. Metal Edge says they will be remastered. Gotta figure sales of HF > and possibly the MoFi set has convinced Sony there are a few more drops of > blue blood to squeeze from the Oysterboys. > Hope it turns out that way...guess we wait a while longer for the entire BOC oeuvre to be remastered... > >Hmm...I was 5th row at Saratoga for a show on that tour, and didn't > have any trouble with the noise. It's strange, as JB suffers from > tinnitus--you'd think he would play with fewer dbs. At any rate, > I'll be using protection--for my hearing, ya know! > > 'OK but enquiring minds (namely me) still would like to know what specific > type of ear protection you use. Do use one type when doing gigs and another > when sitting in the fifth row? I'm getting old so one day I would like to > hear my grand kids call me "grandpa". Hehehehehehehehehehehe > I agree with Paul. Sonic IIs are the best I've used. Generally, for my own playing I don't wear them, although there's one drummer I play with occasionally whose playing demands I wear 'em! I usually bring a pair to concerts, but unless a band is really loud, or I'm stuck in front of the PA, I don't use hearing protection... theo From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Jul 7 12:13:59 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:13:59 +0100 Subject: HW: Glastonbury 1981 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Jon Browne wrote: > That'll be "time becoming a loop" again. > > Gotta watch out for the Moebius Trip, eh? Jon, you appear to be suffering from Orbital decay... Watch you don't hit Mir on the way down! Yours, Jon From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Wed Jul 7 12:16:24 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:16:24 +0100 Subject: OFF: BOC-L TAPE SWAP 99 Message-ID: >James A Hogard sez: >I have one as well; is there some sort of schedule that we're >supposed to be following? You receive, you listen, you make a copy if you want to keep it, then you pass it on to the person you made your tape for. Eventually every tape should be heard by everybody (barring acts of god). SAH NP Dave Lee Roth Band - King Of The Hill -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com "Never Judge A Man (Until You're Standing In His Shoes)" From chip at PCC.COM Wed Jul 7 12:50:52 1999 From: chip at PCC.COM (Chip Hart) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:50:52 -0400 Subject: [chugchanga-l] Richard Meltzer piece in Chicago Reader Message-ID: From another list: > Just noticed a too long, and superindulgent, but also kind of interesting > and way different than one ususally sees in rock crit piece in last week's > Chicago Reader by original rock crit Richard Meltzer. I dare you to not > jump over large sections of ughfuzz grumphing, but it was still nice to > see: > > http://www.chicagoreader.com/covers/vinyl.html > > Does this mean he's returning to active duty? -- Chip Hart * chip @ pcc.com Physicians's Computer Company * http://www.pcc.com/~chip 1 Main Street * Work:800-722-7708 Winooski, VT 05404 * Fax: 802-846-8178 From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 7 13:02:06 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:02:06 +0100 Subject: HW: Edinburgh Flux Festival and Ken Kesey Message-ID: The Flux Festival advertising brochure fell through my door the other day and confirms Ken Kesey and The Magic Bus + very special guests on Saturday 28th August at 8.00pm in the Princes Street Gardens but no more detail than that. There is also a Web page address which says nothing other than the above but looks as if it will be being kept up to date as things change http://www.fluxfestival.com Curiously this show being run "In Association with the Edinburgh International Book Festival". Can we hope for a reprint of Bob Calvert's poems perhaps........ jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM Wed Jul 7 13:35:07 1999 From: stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:35:07 -0400 Subject: HW: BADAM - Transatlantic gigging Message-ID: Ok, BADAM meeting point: 5pm on Saturday at Andys Amazing Records sounds good, All welcome, so far we have One transplanted Brit (in his fave waistcoat with the Doremi logo on the back) trying desperately to drop all the Americanisms he's picked up over the years, and actually speak English again. One guy (with a wheelbarrow to hold his list of HW tapes ?) leaning on a flagon of cider trying hard not to start a riot. One guy who'll probably be busy exchanging my wallet for a pile of his most excellent CD's Jill you'll be around for BADAM right ? Is Carl back in the US now terms out ? (or are you lurking somewhere) > > Stephen Lindsey writes: > > > So having secured my opportunity, I'm curious to know who of all the > > UK'ers might be heading upto Buxton/BADAM at the end of July ?? After > > seven (?) years of talking to you lot over email, might be nice to actually > > meet some of you in the flesh. Any thoughts for a meeting spot/get together ? > > I'll be there. I'd suggest that since Andy Garibaldi will have a stall > there, we meet there and make ourselves known to Andy. How 'bout 5pm on > the Saturday? > > FoFP From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Jul 7 13:48:19 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:48:19 -0400 Subject: OFF: buying a soundcard Message-ID: >I know that there are some PC music experts on this list so... > >I'm looking to buy a soundcard with a good A/D converter for input. > >So far the two which look good at a sane price are the Event Darla (275 Dollars) and >the Turtle Beach Fiji (175 Pounds). I have a Turtle Beach Montego AX3D Xstream. It cost me $99 when I got it, it has now been replaced by a newer card of theirs for about the same price, which has a larger wavetable. Nevertheless, it is a very good sound card, it has Aureal3D (A3D) full 3d audio support via 2 speakers (the demos show off this effect, many games like Freespace and Half-Life use it... >The online specs don't list this but presumably all soundcards will come >with onboard clips for connectors to a CD-ROM drive and hopefully a >spare for the TV tuner card? Well, my TV tuner card will take a CD-ROM passthru, at the cost of not having seperate audio controls for each... But yes, the Turtle Beach one I have (apparently lower end than the one you are looking at, so I can only imagine yours would too) has inputs for CD-Rom as well as two auxilliary inputs, one of which I use with my TV tuner card (an STB TVPCI thingamajig I somehow won randomly at ESPN.COM). ============================================ "My thinking is usually pretty good, but I seem to do it after I do my talking-- by which time I've generally destroyed all basis for further conversaton." Conrad Nikimos, "And call me Conrad" by Roger Zelazny Andrew Apold From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Jul 7 14:56:33 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:56:33 +0100 Subject: HW: BADAM - Transatlantic gigging In-Reply-To: <199907071735.NAA08530@dogberry> Message-ID: And it was written: >Ok, > >BADAM meeting point: > >5pm on Saturday at Andys Amazing Records sounds good, > >--snip > >> I'll be there. I'd suggest that since Andy Garibaldi will have a stall >> there, we meet there and make ourselves known to Andy. How 'bout 5pm on >> the Saturday? I'm trying not to get my hopes up, being unemployed & not even getting dole yet, but I may yet make it up there...you have been warned (;-{)> ChrisW From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Jul 7 14:38:05 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:38:05 +0100 Subject: HW: Glastonbury 1981 In-Reply-To: <199907071104.MAA01253@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hmmmmm >> >It's strange that I remember New Order >> >as coming after Hawkwind though. >> > >> >FoFP >> >> That'll be "time becoming a loop" again. >> >> Gotta watch out for the Moebius Trip, eh? > >Which side are you on? > >> Jon > >FoFP There's only one side & one edge!!!!!!! ChrisW From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Jul 7 15:40:08 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 20:40:08 +0100 Subject: HW: BADAM - Transatlantic gigging In-Reply-To: <199907071735.NAA08530@dogberry> Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Stephen Lindsey wrote: > Is Carl back in the US now terms out ? (or are you lurking somewhere) Guess I'd better pick this up: Carl has been unsubscribed for about the last month while he finished his thesis and went back to the US last Tuesday, leaving Cambridge England down to two BOC-Lers (one lurking) unless Mike Parkington is still around, and four known Hawkfans. These are terrible times indeed. And more relevantly, I believe his e-mail in the US is sporadic so we probably won't see him for a while :-( Yours, Jon From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Jul 7 15:53:12 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 20:53:12 +0100 Subject: HW/NIK: Where-abouts of Del Rio/Grenas/Fox? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > 1. Will there ever be another Zero Gravity album? It's been 4 yrs. since the > glorious debut. Must get hold of this! > 2. Will there ever be another Brain album? It's been 3 since the glorious > debut. Must get hold of this! (overdraft deepens) > 3. Will there be another Pressurehed album? It's been 3 years since their > last. Now I heard they were in the works with this, though I can't remember where, and if it was say, Knut's Calvert site, it may well have still been referring to `Explaining the Unexplained', but even that was only two years ago... > 4. A little too soon to be asking for a new Anubian Lights album, but how > about it? I believe you're asking the wrong people mate: if I could, I would... > 5. Does Nik ever wanna record/tour will these people again? > 6. I'm not really a huge fan of Farflung (yet), but are they still together? Well, the last US Nikwind tour wasn't that long ago was it? Did they not back him then? Meanwhile, as the good Mr. Henderson pointed out, he is playing with Farflung at Strange Daze, and as he also says, the new Farflung, _The Belief Module_, is recent and very very good indeed. Best yet, no question, though they did change bass players for one rather more Harvey's level than Buck is... he is now working on solo material. Yours, Jon From harpo87 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jul 7 16:15:57 1999 From: harpo87 at HOTMAIL.COM (PER ANDERS JOHANSSON) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:15:57 PDT Subject: Maybe out of topic Message-ID: Hello This messenger maybe are "out of topic"but i just only want to tell that i started a psychedelic/progressive onelist a half year ago,its like this but we talk about progressive and psychedelic rock of all kinds of styles,we help each other friendly with information. the talk have very much been about us psychedelic music,but there are big interest in list of other styles to,every opinions and letter is important and all kinds of people are included,both dealer,small and big collectors or only fans of music,everybody who want to share opinions or information or only want to read ,take a look at http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/psychedelica ALL THE BEST TO ALL / P A JOHANSSON,SWEDEN ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Wed Jul 7 15:38:21 1999 From: Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Nik Lowenberg) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 15:38:21 -0400 Subject: HW: BADAM - Transatlantic gigging Message-ID: Stephen Lindsey wrote: > One guy (with a wheelbarrow to hold his list of HW tapes ?) That must be some heavy paper! From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jul 7 16:50:50 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 22:50:50 +0200 Subject: HW: BADAM - Transatlantic gigging Message-ID: > Guess I'd better pick this up: Carl has been unsubscribed for > about the last month while he finished his thesis and went back to the US > last Tuesday, leaving Cambridge England down to two BOC-Lers (one > lurking) > unless Mike Parkington is still around, and four known Hawkfans. These are > terrible times indeed. Sod! Buggered off without even stopping by for a beer! Oh well, guess he was busy, I was busy too. Plus I decided not to move to Cambridge myself. Anyway I'm in the south of France now, sending this from my Sony Vaio via my cellular phone... that's not really ? propos of anything, I just felt like pointing it out. Will be back for Godspeed You Black Emperor! on the 15th though. Oh yeah, almost forgot, apparently Masters of Reality are going to be at the Borderline (London) in September. Anyone got their new album yet? -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jul 7 17:43:00 1999 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trevor thoms) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:43:00 PDT Subject: Inner City Unit Cassettes Message-ID: I wonder if anyone still hasn't got the new Judgement Recs tape list. They are all made by Judge Trev himself (me), and represent excellent value for money. Here it is: Pass-Out ICU Punkadelic ICU The Maximum effect ICU Maiden Voyage Iron Maiden (featuring me, circa 1970) Now You Know The Score ICU (without Nik) all at ?3.99 +p&p (on chrome cassette) Now You Know The Score C.D. ICU ?9.99 + p&p Cheques/P.O.s/hidden cash to: T Thoms, 48 Barbauld Rd, London, N16 OST. p&p add: U.K. 50p - Europe ?1 - U.S.A. ?1.20 - rest of world ?2 per extra item 10p 30p 60p 70p respectively or equivalent currency All buyers will be informed of future I.C.U. activity. How's that for cottage industry. Love, Judge Trev ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Jul 7 19:15:25 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 00:15:25 +0100 Subject: HW: BADAM - Transatlantic gigging In-Reply-To: <004201bec8bb$213036c0$9a3763c3@Gilhambtinternet.com> Message-ID: At 22:50 07/07/99 +0200, Andy Gilham wrote: >Anyway I'm in the south of France now, sending this from my Sony Vaio via my >cellular phone... that's not really ? propos of anything, I just felt like >pointing it out. > Sheesh - talk about techno posing!!! OK, so I'm jealous, sue me! > >Will be back for Godspeed You Black Emperor! on the 15th though. > SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT I'll have to miss them again!!!!!!!!!! > >Oh yeah, almost forgot, apparently Masters of Reality are going to be at the >Borderline (London) in September. Some hope for that one at least - unless I end up working for Sky in Livingston... Cheers, ChrisW (who's very happy to have got the rest of his CDs out of storage at his sister's) From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Wed Jul 7 14:02:15 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 18:02:15 +0000 Subject: HW: BADAM - Transatlantic gigging Message-ID: Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Stephen Lindsey wrote: > > > Is Carl back in the US now terms out ? (or are you lurking somewhere) > > Guess I'd better pick this up: Carl has been unsubscribed for > about the last month while he finished his thesis and went back to the US > last Tuesday, leaving Cambridge England down to two BOC-Lers (one lurking) > unless Mike Parkington is still around, and four known Hawkfans. These are > terrible times indeed. > And more relevantly, I believe his e-mail in the US is sporadic so > we probably won't see him for a while :-( Yours, > Jon And I'll pick it up from there... Since Carl will be playing with Das Ludicroix at StrangeDaze '99 and Larry "Daslud" is on vacation in Virginia, and Ian (Daslud's lead guitar) is currently a houseguest, and I'll be mixed up/in/with the band at SD '99, I'll probably be the next to hear from him (assuming he _isn't_ lurking!) so when he does drop by I'll sit him down at the Mac and get him caught up on boc-l and have him reply to anything relevant. I haven't seen him for quite some time and I'm really looking forward to his company on the Strange Trip... Just before Larry left there was rumor of a THIRD guitarist for DasLud from him, so things are going to be very interesting in the next month or so while they woodshed out a set for the show (they have a 90 minute set to fill...). Ian has been hard at work rebuilding a guitar especially for the event, and Ive been told that Ron (bass and/or guitar) is very excited about playing the fest as well. So Carl will be in demand as soon as he surfaces on this side of the pond... We'll let him know how sorely he's missed over there, but don't expect us to let go of him anytime soon;) ChrisB kaduflyer -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3117 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Jul 7 20:09:17 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 20:09:17 EDT Subject: HW/NIK: Where-abouts of Del Rio/Grenas/Fox? Message-ID: In a message dated 99-07-07 15:54:01 EDT, you write: << On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > 1. Will there ever be another Zero Gravity album? It's been 4 yrs. since the > glorious debut. Must get hold of this! ---Yes you must. Good luck. CDnow or one of those deals _might_ have it; haven't checked. > 2. Will there ever be another Brain album? It's been 3 since the glorious > debut. Must get hold of this! (overdraft deepens) ---Yes, you must. I ordered mine from CDNow. Give 'em a try. > 3. Will there be another Pressurehed album? It's been 3 years since their > last. Now I heard they were in the works with this, though I can't remember where, and if it was say, Knut's Calvert site, it may well have still been referring to `Explaining the Unexplained', but even that was only two years ago... ---3 Years. > 5. Does Nik ever wanna record/tour will these people again? > 6. I'm not really a huge fan of Farflung (yet), but are they still together? Well, the last US Nikwind tour wasn't that long ago was it? Did they not back him then? ---Well, I think it was the '95 tour, Past or Future. For me, that's a long time; esp. since in '95 I was just catching up w/HW and didn't even know Nik was doing such great tours (well, it was being discussed here, of course, but I paid no attn...) Meanwhile, as the good Mr. Henderson pointed out, he is playing with Farflung at Strange Daze, and as he also says, the new Farflung, _The Belief Module_, is recent and very very good indeed. Best yet, no question, though they did change bass players for one rather more Harvey's level than Buck is... he is now working on solo material. Yours, Jon >> ---25000 Ft. Per Second is really starting to grow on me. So Many Minds, So Little Time should be here in a couple days. Chuck From JOHNANDBEVBONO at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Wed Jul 7 22:06:20 1999 From: JOHNANDBEVBONO at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (JOHN BONO) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 22:06:20 -0400 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Whenever I get to a message from " Christopher Bruce " with a digital signature , my computer freezes in the mail " Inbox " . Can anyone help with this ? Thanks , John From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Wed Jul 7 22:18:07 1999 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 21:18:07 -0500 Subject: sigs Message-ID: My netscape displays "invalid signature file". You might try updating your version of netscape or whatever you're using. Or maybe Chris could stop attaching the faulty signature cards. JOHN BONO wrote: > > Whenever I get to a message from " Christopher Bruce " with a digital > signature , my computer freezes in the mail " Inbox " . Can anyone help with > this ? Thanks , John From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jul 8 01:45:29 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 07:45:29 +0200 Subject: No subject Message-ID: It's giving me problems with Outlook Express too, and also wants to attach some sodding great file too by the looks of things (which is a pain when connecting via GSM). -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham ----- Original Message ----- From: JOHN BONO To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 4:06 AM > Whenever I get to a message from " Christopher Bruce " with a digital > signature , my computer freezes in the mail " Inbox " . Can anyone help with > this ? Thanks , John > From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jul 8 01:51:20 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 07:51:20 +0200 Subject: HW: BADAM - Transatlantic gigging Message-ID: Chris > Sheesh - talk about techno posing!!! > > OK, so I'm jealous, sue me! Tee hee! >> >>Will be back for Godspeed You Black Emperor! on the 15th though. >> >SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT I'll have to miss them again!!!!!!!!!! > They're touring, so you might be able to catch other dates. www.southern.com (I think) has details. - Southern Studios, anyway, if you need to search. -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From flossbac at NLCI.COM Thu Jul 8 02:21:12 1999 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 01:21:12 -0500 Subject: No subject Message-ID: I've got the same problem! I am dreading receiving his mail, because it inevitably causes me to have to power down my computer! John Majka flossbac at nlci.com > Whenever I get to a message from " Christopher Bruce " with a digital > signature , my computer freezes in the mail " Inbox " . Can anyone help with > this ? Thanks , John > From Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jul 8 02:37:10 1999 From: Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Nik Lowenberg) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 02:37:10 -0400 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Am I the only one who doesn't have this problem? Where does the problem stem from? Which browser versions are you guys using? When I open the message, there's a little icon down at the bottom and my computer won't allow me to open it. -Nik > > Whenever I get to a message from " Christopher Bruce " with a digital > > signature , my computer freezes in the mail " Inbox " . Can anyone help > with > > this ? Thanks , John > > From Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jul 8 02:49:20 1999 From: Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Nik Lowenberg) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 02:49:20 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind and Rush Message-ID: Does anybody know if it's true that Rush opened for Hawkwind on the '75 US tour? The many Rush fans I've asked hadn't a clue.... -Nik From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Thu Jul 8 03:59:35 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 08:59:35 +0100 Subject: HW: BADAM - Transatlantic gigging In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 07 Jul 1999 22:50:50 +0200." <004201bec8bb$213036c0$9a3763c3@Gilhambtinternet.com> Message-ID: > > Guess I'd better pick this up: Carl has been unsubscribed for > > about the last month while he finished his thesis and went back to the US > > last Tuesday, leaving Cambridge England down to two BOC-Lers (one > > lurking) > > unless Mike Parkington is still around, and four known Hawkfans. These are > > terrible times indeed. > > Sod! Buggered off without even stopping by for a beer! Oh well, guess he > was busy, I was busy too. Plus I decided not to move to Cambridge myself. Indeed. Never got to dub a copy from his CD of 'Xmas Pigs' either. > Anyway I'm in the south of France now, sending this from my Sony Vaio via my > cellular phone... that's not really ? propos of anything, I just felt like > pointing it out. Your place in the jet-set digerati is assured ! Though the current 9.6k over GSM must really suck :) > Will be back for Godspeed You Black Emperor! on the 15th though. Alas I'm elsewhere for this. Bugger, since the album is ace and live they sound really intense. > Oh yeah, almost forgot, apparently Masters of Reality are going to be at the > Borderline (London) in September. Anyone got their new album yet? No, but seen it in HMV. A review Kerraappp! said basically good things but also that it wouldn't propel them into new heights either. Definitely on for the show when it happens though. Tim ObLibraryCD: Rory Gallagher, _Rory Gallagher_ From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Thu Jul 8 04:05:45 1999 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff and Pam Wheaton) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 02:05:45 -0600 Subject: No subject Message-ID: I just get an "invalid signature" note on mine. No other problems here!! P Nik Lowenberg wrote: > Am I the only one who doesn't have this problem? Where does the problem > stem from? Which browser versions are you guys using? When I open the > message, there's a little icon down at the bottom and my computer won't > allow me to open it. > > -Nik > > > > Whenever I get to a message from " Christopher Bruce " with a digital > > > signature , my computer freezes in the mail " Inbox " . Can anyone help > > with > > > this ? Thanks , John > > > From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Thu Jul 8 04:08:15 1999 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff and Pam Wheaton) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 02:08:15 -0600 Subject: HW: Hawkwind and Rush Message-ID: I believe they did, although I can't cite anything. I heard it from a friend ages ago. This friend got me into HW , and I'm a diehard Rush fan, so I'm still digging up cool little tidbits on both bands! Pam Nik Lowenberg wrote: > Does anybody know if it's true that Rush opened for Hawkwind on the '75 US > tour? The many Rush fans I've asked hadn't a clue.... > > -Nik From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Thu Jul 8 04:05:48 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:05:48 +0100 Subject: HW/NIK: Where-abouts of Del Rio/Grenas/Fox? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 07 Jul 1999 20:53:12 BST." Message-ID: > On Mon, 21 Jun 1999, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > > > 1. Will there ever be another Zero Gravity album? It's been 4 yrs. since the > > glorious debut. > > Must get hold of this! This is pretty good, but not on par with say, Annubian Lights. As an aside, anybody who watched the programme on the Hindenberg disaster tuesday night Ch4 will recognise the tape of the radio broadcast as being that sample from the Z-G track Precognition. > > 3. Will there be another Pressurehed album? It's been 3 years since their > > last. > > Now I heard they were in the works with this, though I can't > remember where, and if it was say, Knut's Calvert site, it may well have > still been referring to `Explaining the Unexplained', but even that was > only two years ago... I've never seen that either. In fact I'm not sure I've ever seen a Pressurehed album in the UK. I only have _Infradrone_. Tim From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jul 7 07:19:16 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:19:16 +0100 Subject: HW: Glastonbury 1981 In-Reply-To: <199907071104.MAA01253@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <199907071104.MAA01253 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >Which side are you on? I am not a number, I am a free man etc.... -- Jon From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Thu Jul 8 04:37:21 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Gekke Henkie) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:37:21 +0200 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <19990708073930.ZLNT2808@nl-hello> Message-ID: Hi all, I use Pegasus Mail, and have no problems. --BArt Op 8 Jul 99, om 2:37, Nik Lowenberg schreef: > Am I the only one who doesn't have this problem? Where does the problem > stem from? Which browser versions are you guys using? When I open the > message, there's a little icon down at the bottom and my computer won't > allow me to open it. > > -Nik > > > > Whenever I get to a message from " Christopher Bruce " with a digital > > > signature , my computer freezes in the mail " Inbox " . Can anyone help > > with > > > this ? Thanks , John > > > From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Thu Jul 8 06:35:28 1999 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:35:28 +0200 Subject: sigs In-Reply-To: <37840A5F.194F798A@uswest.net> Message-ID: >My netscape displays "invalid signature file". You might try updating >your version of netscape or whatever you're using. Or maybe Chris could >stop attaching the faulty signature cards. > >JOHN BONO wrote: >> >> Whenever I get to a message from " Christopher Bruce " with a digital >> signature , my computer freezes in the mail " Inbox " . Can anyone help with >> this ? Thanks , John i recommend you not to download any attached file. just for your own safety !!!!! andre From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Thu Jul 8 06:37:39 1999 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:37:39 +0200 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <002d01bec90a$14318c40$c86040ce@pavilion> Message-ID: >I've got the same problem! I am dreading receiving his mail, because it >inevitably causes me to have to power down my computer! >John Majka >flossbac at nlci.com > >> Whenever I get to a message from " Christopher Bruce " with a digital >> signature , my computer freezes in the mail " Inbox " . Can anyone help >with >> this ? Thanks , John >> use eudora as a mailreaderand you don't have any problem regarding mail and attachments. andre From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 8 06:40:12 1999 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 03:40:12 PDT Subject: Inner City Unit Cassettes Message-ID: Judge Trev wrote: >Maiden Voyage Iron Maiden (featuring me, circa 1970) Eh? Was Stevie Harris playing bass in his nappies then? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Jul 8 06:59:01 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 11:59:01 +0100 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 10:37 08/07/99 +0200, you wrote: >Hi all, > >I use Pegasus Mail, and have no problems. > >--BArt > Likewise with Eudora Light - it just indicates an attacment called "smime.p7s" which Explorer tells me is a "PKCS #7 Signature" and looking at it with quikview the contents appear to be a VeriSign security/authorisation signature; and it's 4k. Technically Yours, ChrisW > >Op 8 Jul 99, om 2:37, Nik Lowenberg schreef: > >> Am I the only one who doesn't have this problem? Where does the problem >> stem from? Which browser versions are you guys using? When I open the >> message, there's a little icon down at the bottom and my computer won't >> allow me to open it. > >> >> -Nik >> >> > > Whenever I get to a message from " Christopher Bruce " with a digital >> > > signature , my computer freezes in the mail " Inbox " . Can anyone help >> > with >> > > this ? Thanks , John >> > > > > > From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Jul 8 07:06:24 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:06:24 +0100 Subject: sigs In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990708123441.009384d0@pop.casema.net> Message-ID: At 12:35 08/07/99 +0200, you wrote: > >i recommend you not to download any attached file. >just for your own safety !!!!! > >andre > Most of you guys know this stuff, but for those who don't:- Generally speaking, downloading a file isn't a problem, and most mail clients will pull in attachments regardless. The important thing is not to activate any executables unless you know what they are or have virus-checked them. The additional caveat goes with MS-Word docs that may have malicious "virus" macros embedded - though I don't use the Microsnot products myself I'm still cautious. Boffin hat off again. ChrisW CDfromthe vault:One From The Vault - Grateful Dead From flossbac at NLCI.COM Thu Jul 8 07:50:35 1999 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 06:50:35 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawkwind and Rush Message-ID: > Does anybody know if it's true that Rush opened for Hawkwind on the '75 US > tour? The many Rush fans I've asked hadn't a clue.... > -Nik Yes Nik that's absolutely true. I have a Rush book which mentions this fact, as well as a radio interview with Neil Peart where he mentions the same. John Majka flossbac at nlci.com From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jul 8 08:42:03 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:42:03 +0100 Subject: HW: BADAM - Transatlantic gigging In-Reply-To: Stephen Lindsey's message of Wed, 7 Jul 1999 13:35:07 -0400 Message-ID: Stephen Lindsey writes: > Ok, > > BADAM meeting point: > > 5pm on Saturday at Andys Amazing Records sounds good, > > All welcome, so far we have > > One transplanted Brit (in his fave waistcoat with the Doremi logo on the back) > trying desperately to drop all the Americanisms he's picked up over > the years, and actually speak English again. > > One guy (with a wheelbarrow to hold his list of HW tapes ?) leaning on > a flagon of cider trying hard not to start a riot. > > One guy who'll probably be busy exchanging my wallet for a pile of his most > excellent CD's > > Jill you'll be around for BADAM right ? Ah - this is in rather a state of flux right now since I'm leaving one job on the Friday of BADAM and starting a new one on the Monday. Negotiating for extra days might not be the most sensible of actions but I'll have to see what the reactions are...... If any BADAM folk are online or available for a message tell them that the record shops in Edinburgh were *very* keen to display the small posters and kept asking if I had anything bigger to offer them. A mailshot round the addresses in the phone book with a BIG poster would be happily received by all. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Jul 8 08:49:12 1999 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trevor thoms) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 05:49:12 PDT Subject: ICU/Iron Maiden cassettes Message-ID: Horse Whisperer wrote: Judge Trev wrote: Maiden Voyage Iron Maiden (featuring me, circa 1970) Eh? Was Stevie Harris playing bass in his nappies then? No, but he might have been grooving to the orginal Iron Maiden which was my first pro band in 1969. Erm, I have cassettes of the album Maiden Voyage available @ ?3.99 or CD's @ ?15, limited number available. Add 50p p$p for U.K. or whatever it is for abroad. Cheques / P.O.s to: T. Thoms, 48 Barbauld Road, London, N16 OST. See 'I.C.U. Cassettes' for other I.C.U. merchandising. Sorry to appear to be so mercenary but we're skint as usual. I'm pencilled in for the Academy H.W. gigs where I hope to debut a load of new accoustic material. A few nudges in the ribs of the powers-that-be (D. Smith) might change the pencil to ink. The new material represents a radical change in style. Is there anyone out there who can sponsor a new album? What a life eh!, me old mates. Best Wishes to everyone. Love, Trev. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Thu Jul 8 09:16:55 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:16:55 -0400 Subject: BOC: Meltzer Message-ID: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: [chugchanga-l] Richard Meltzer piece in Chicago Reader > Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 12:50:52 -0400 > From: Chip Hart > > From another list: > > > Just noticed a too long, and superindulgent, but also kind of interesting > > and way different than one ususally sees in rock crit piece in last week's > > Chicago Reader by original rock crit Richard Meltzer. I dare you to not > > jump over large sections of ughfuzz grumphing, but it was still nice to > > see: > > > > http://www.chicagoreader.com/covers/vinyl.html > > > > Does this mean he's returning to active duty? > Well, I'll try hard not bash Richard Meltzer -- I'm a big fan of many of his lyrics, but his other written output just leaves me shaking my head. I've ranted enough about that hack-job review he did on BOC a few months back - whether there was more truth in there than a BOC fan would want to know or admit to I don't know, but I'm still of the opinion that a lot of what he said was inappropriate (interesting or not). Reading through his article here reminded me of trying to read through his book "The Aesthetics of Rock" -- I just DON'T GET IT. I'm not saying that it is therefore bad, but it just goes against a lot of my way of thinking about music in general. He seems to place way more "significance" to so many aspects to music than I do - for me, it's just rock and roll - it sounds good and makes me feel good - end of story. Further, I don't get all the seemingly random bits of information that Meltzer throws into his columns that presumably deal with music. Do I need to know that guy never thinks about one particular ex-girlfriend when he jerks off? Or that he left one of his girlfriends in a drunken, comatose heap with a pile of other random stuff. Or how 'bout his description of one of Buck's girlfriends hugging a toilet waiting to vomit followed immediately by the sentence "she had a great ass"? Again, the above isn't meant to bash Meltzer. Some of you probably "get" his stuff and enjoy it. To me, it just leaves me scratching my head trying to figure out exactly what the hell I missed back there in the 60s in my pre-school years... I think maybe it's just a fundamental difference of opinion of what rock music is to each of us. To me, it's a form of sonic enjoyment to me - gets my blood pumping, head banging, etc. On the otherhand, here's a quote from Meltzer on his definition of rock: "Although what, precisely, was/is rocka rocka roll--or punk--or any kind of youth twitch--supposed to entail "if not that"? If not the high risk of behaving like a FLYING FUCKING ASSHOLE?" Dunno - maybe since he mentioned it as a "youth twitch", maybe I'm just getting to old... By the way, thought I would cut-n-paste a bit from that article for those who didn't read it all -- apparently Meltzer ain't on good terms with Sandy Pearlman: >>A friend g-g-g-gone!--and I don't mean dead. Written off, written out. (I wouldn't piss on his grave.) >>No names, no names, but he was a goodfriend, he was a bes' friend--then once he wasn't he was NO FRIEND. Somewhere in the middle, when he was just a midfriend, he helped originate rockwriting. Wait--didn't I originate it? Give him an assist. He had a hand, was at least a catalyst, the person I tried some of this crap out on. A lot of my riffs came in dialogue with him. Which is something, considering how little he knew 'bout rock 'n' roll--it was virtually all bluff. Like here was a guy whose prior exemplar of musical ecstasy was Carmina Burana, whose first try-on-for-size of what he took for rock/roll was Trini Lopez at PJ's (which you'll probably miss the humor of if you're under 45). Meet the Searchers (Kapp KL-1363) was his second. >>Did ya know that the Brit Invasion, stage one, consisted solely of the Beatles, the Dave Clark Five, and the Searchers?--then maybe Peter and Gordon, possibly Gerry and the Pacemakers--it was six months (or more) before the first real U.S. impact of the Stones. Well, this pal, this buddy, championed the Searchers over the Beatles (his favorite Beatle--what a card!--was Stu Sutcliffe, the dead one), imagining a song or two of theirs more overtly "sexual" than either the known works of the Fab Four or his subnovice's inkling of the rock norm. Putting his money where his mouth was, he bought Meet the Searchers (aka Needles and Pins), then I did. From the condition of my copy, I prob'ly spent more time perusing the cover (for Merseybeaters, they dressed and greased themselves like Joey Dee and the Starliters) than playing it. I've got no clear sense no more of what they ever could've meant to me, other than to look in the index to Aesthetics of Rock and see there's SEVEN entries for 'em...well that's his doing. >>My buddy! my pal! who in the late 60s forewent a "career" in rockcrit (jus' kidding!: 'twurn't such a thing) for a career in rock commerce (a career of rock evil? that's putting it too poetically); who as manager of I won't even name them owed me for band services/rendered at a time, a longtime, bloody years over which I could never consistently pay the rent (and was never out of debt); oh! the image of him with his roll of hundreds every time I'd ask him, beg him, for a penny or two. I wouldn't puke... >>And wasn't there more?, didn't he try to "steal" my gal, one of 'em anyway; oh and he never invited me on a tour (although he took I won't name her either--to Europe yet), even just as a friend goddammit; and as a final insult sent me a hideous gold record, so suitable for framing it was already framed...boo-hoo!...a good deal of which can easily be writ off as just, well, ROCK AND ROLL, its wage, its consequence, its everyday walk-the-streets surface and substance, durn near everything but its music, ha ha ha ha ha, but more of which was plain basic treachery, perfidy, bad faith, nongeneric interpersonal DOUBLECROSS. >>I wouldn't puke on his mother. You know? I'm not sure that any of the guys associated with SWU/SFG that hung out together in those days could hang out for too long with eachother without killing eachother. Over the years, I've heard various quotes from many of them and it's amazing to me sometimes to think these guys used to be part of the same group. When I started the FAQ, I wanted to be sure that it didn't go into any "gory details" concerning such topics as the Bouchard departures from BOC or the recording of Imaginos. Reading Meltzer's comments above make me think that there may be much gorier details elsewhere in the history of the good ship BOC... Anyways, all this Meltzer stuff is giving me the urge to pop *Trepanation* in the player -- "Shakespeare in Cyberspace - free as a feather..." John From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Thu Jul 8 05:50:38 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:50:38 +0000 Subject: BOC: New England and Compilation Message-ID: > If this CD is to be any different, I would think that Sony would at > least have to advertise a little for it -- otherwise, it will look no > different to the casual listener passing the BOC section in the CD racks... > > John I realize that people will probably want to buy this thing for the sake of owning everything possible by BOC. I used to do stuff like that, too, until I realized I was just spending dollars upon dollars on the same damn material. I think we should all boycott it, just to show Sony that we're smart enough not to be taken in by their bullshit. I say if Sony wants to make money off BOC, they should get behind and promote the next album. Otherwise, SCREW 'EM! -- Nick From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jul 8 10:27:11 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:27:11 EDT Subject: BOC: New England and Compilation In-Reply-To: <199907081337.JAA07910@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: > From: "" > > I realize that people will probably want to buy this thing for the > sake of owning everything possible by BOC. I used to do stuff like > that, too, until I realized I was just spending dollars upon dollars > on the same damn material. I think we should all boycott it, just to > show Sony that we're smart enough not to be taken in by their > bullshit. I say if Sony wants to make money off BOC, they should get > behind and promote the next album. Otherwise, SCREW 'EM! Right you are! Unless it's remastered, I probably wouldn't buy it anyway...What we need to do is get behind HF and the next new album in a big way, and let Sony make their millions elsewhere... Oh yeah, if the King Biscuit thing ever happens, we all have to run out and get that too. Is that project dead in the water? I'd give anything to hear a live Flaming Telepaths or Stairway. Come to think of it, a CMC album of the current lineup live wouldn't be too bad either. Current setlists have been great... theo From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jul 8 11:39:31 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 17:39:31 +0200 Subject: BOC: New England and Compilation Message-ID: > Oh yeah, if the King Biscuit thing ever happens, we all have to run > out and get that too. Is that project dead in the water? I'd give > anything to hear a live Flaming Telepaths or Stairway. Come to think > of it, a CMC album of the current lineup live wouldn't be too bad > either. Current setlists have been great... There's a live FT on the 12" Burnin for You, and a live SttS on the b-side of the We Gotta Get Out Of This place 7" off SEE... -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Jul 8 12:22:35 1999 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:22:35 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bizarre openers (was Re: Hawkwind and Rush) In-Reply-To: <19990708075126.YBXB9368@nl-hello> from "Nik Lowenberg" at Jul 8, 99 02:49:20 am Message-ID: Nik Lowenberg wrote: > > Does anybody know if it's true that Rush opened for Hawkwind on the '75 US > tour? The many Rush fans I've asked hadn't a clue.... Dunno, but a friend just told me that once, back in the late 60s, she went to see the Monkees somewhere in the NYC area, and the opening act was this complete unknown named Jimi Hendrix. May be common knowledge, but it wasn't to me... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / Perl is a challenge left for the syntactic masochist. - http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/guile.html From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jul 8 13:13:42 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:13:42 EDT Subject: BOC: New England and Compilation In-Reply-To: <000001bec959$d8e65a80$ef3863c3@Gilhambtinternet.com> Message-ID: From: Andrew Gilham I'd give > > anything to hear a live Flaming Telepaths or Stairway. Come to think > > of it, a CMC album of the current lineup live wouldn't be too bad > > either. Current setlists have been great... > > There's a live FT on the 12" Burnin for You, Got it, but it isn't the greatest version, and can't be compared to the way they're doing FT nowadays... and a live SttS on the b-side > of the We Gotta Get Out Of This place 7" off SEE... > Damn! How'd I miss that one? Is it a good rendition? Listening to OYF at work today's really got me stoked for more live BOC...Check out Al's pounding on tRatB! theo From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Jul 8 04:35:03 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:35:03 +0100 Subject: Inner City Unit Cassettes In-Reply-To: <19990707214300.81881.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: In article <19990707214300.81881.qmail at hotmail.com>, trevor thoms writes > >How's that for cottage industry. > >Love, Judge Trev Jungle up the linoleum? -- Jon From deadline at CYBERHIGHWAY.NET Thu Jul 8 15:53:44 1999 From: deadline at CYBERHIGHWAY.NET (Aaron Crandall) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:53:44 -0700 Subject: OFF: ---- Volunteers wanted for PowerSearch.com Collections ---- Message-ID: Hello BOC-Lers, I work for PowerSearch.com and I was hoping people on this list would like to participate in this free service and build some BOC or Hawkwind Collections for us :) See an example by viewing the Collection of Gaming sites I created at http://favorites.powersearch.com/published/view.asp?DID=69 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- We are looking for volunteers to contribute to PowerSearch.com (http://www.powersearch.com) ! 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Both the tapes I have heard are the same gig, so the duff one is clearly a copy of a copy of copy of.... etc.! I'm listenning to mine now, ah...memories. dave From artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM Thu Jul 8 15:45:03 1999 From: artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM (Gary Davis) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 15:45:03 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind releases Message-ID: Hi, folks: The latest Artist Shop newsletter is out and you'll find it in its entirety at . Among all sorts of info on progressive music, you'll find these tidbits on Hawkwind: I've just done an enormous update of our Voiceprint page which includes a whole slew of new releases including: Hawkwind/Dawn of Hawkwind - Hawkwind were formed from the ashes of the Hawkwind musicians collective in West London in 1969, with their self titled debut album released in 1970 on Liberty Records. Their main songwriter Dave Brock (vocals, guitars, keyboards) has assembled this collection of studio and live recordings, which cover the years 1966 to the early 70's. There are three different acts featured on this release: The Dharma Blues Band, Hawkwind Zoo and Dave Brock solo. All tracks are sequenced in chronological order and are previously unreleased or alternative versions. The first 1,000 copies will come with a 32 page A5 booklet, which will feature previously unseen photographs and reproductions from contemporary Hawkwind tour programmes. This Hawkwind scrapbook has been assembled by Dave Brock and will ensure that the initial pressings become desirable collector's items. And on our import preorder page , you'll find the following impending reissues: HAWKWIND-IT IS THE BUSINESS OF THE... Reissue of the legendary English prog/ space rock group's 1994 album 'It Is The Business Of The Future To Be Dangerous'. HAWKWIND-LEVITATION Reissue of the legendary English prog/ space rock group's 1980 album, one of the few they cut with Ginger Baker as their drummer. HAWKWIND-LIVE IN 1979 Reissue of the legendary English prog/ space rock group's 1980 concert album. HAWKWIND-PALACE SPRINGS Reissue of the legendary English prog/ space rock group's 1991 live album featuring reworkings of a couple of old classics plus a few exclusive cuts. HAWKWIND-SPACE BANDITS Reissue of the legendary English prog/ space rock group's 1990 album. HAWKWIND-XENON CODEX Reissue of the legendary English prog/ space rock group's 1988 album. Spread the word. Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop.com phone: 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 SUPPORT THE INDEPENDENT ARTIST!!! ************************************************************** Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jul 8 14:52:58 1999 From: Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Nik Lowenberg) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 14:52:58 -0400 Subject: Bizarre openers (was Re: Hawkwind and Rush) Message-ID: Oh, that's definately true. He eventually got kicked off for being too flashy. Y'know, before that he opened for Engelberg Humperdinck (sp?), which, IMHO, is worse than the Monkees. -Nik > Dunno, but a friend just told me that once, back in the late 60s, > she went to see the Monkees somewhere in the NYC area, and the > opening act was this complete unknown named Jimi Hendrix. From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jul 8 16:13:47 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:13:47 +0200 Subject: BOC: New England and Compilation Message-ID: > and a live SttS on the b-side > > of the We Gotta Get Out Of This place 7" off SEE... > > > Damn! How'd I miss that one? Is it a good rendition? It's not bad, a bit rushed maybe. (Small "r".) I'll give it a spin when I get back home - haven't listened to it for a while... > > Listening to OYF at work today's really got me stoked for more live > BOC...Check out Al's pounding on tRatB! The track that really stood out for me on the remastered BOC/T&M was Teen Archer - which I'd always thought was the weakest track on T&M - because of that great instrumental break with the organ and bass going great guns, and Albert drumming like five separate demons in the back of it all! -- Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Thu Jul 8 16:56:40 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 16:56:40 -0400 Subject: sigs Message-ID: >From what I can see, he is diditally signing his posts with Outlook Express. Since the Listserv is redirecting the mail, and thereby changing the header, MS security reports the mail as having been tampered with. It may be your anti virus freezing your inbox. The worst it has done for me is to make opening his mail a two-step process, but I am just going to delete it until he stops signing it... RJ -----Original Message----- From: Dan Witt To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 10:47 PM Subject: Re: sigs >My netscape displays "invalid signature file". You might try updating >your version of netscape or whatever you're using. Or maybe Chris could >stop attaching the faulty signature cards. > >JOHN BONO wrote: >> >> Whenever I get to a message from " Christopher Bruce " with a digital >> signature , my computer freezes in the mail " Inbox " . Can anyone help with >> this ? Thanks , John From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Jul 8 20:03:39 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 20:03:39 -0400 Subject: OFF: "Killer" e-mail In-Reply-To: <19990708073930.ZLNT2808@nl-hello> Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Nik Lowenberg wrote: =>Am I the only one who doesn't have this problem? Where does the problem =>stem from? Which browser versions are you guys using? When I open the =>message, there's a little icon down at the bottom and my computer won't =>allow me to open it. I use Pine 4.{04,10}, and I don't have any problems with Chris Bruce's signed e-mail messages. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jul 8 19:54:17 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 19:54:17 -0400 Subject: HW/OFF: Agitation Free list Message-ID: Hello, thought some of you might be interested. (Not expected to be high volume or anything.) I would like to invite you to join the agfree mailing list. This mailing list is for the purpose of discussing the activities (past, present, and future) of the seminal cosmic-rock/progressive group Agitation Free from Berlin, Germany. And also their labelmates (mostly contemporary 70s German bands now defunct) on the Garden of Delights (formerly Penner) record label. Postings in English and/or German are acceptable, and discussion related to other 'family tree' member bands such as Guru Guru, Tangerine Dream, Ash Ra Tempel, and Os Mundi is also encouraged. As Agitation Free is planning new releases and worldwide touring, the intent of the list is to create interest in North America and elsewhere. Join us and help form a network that can succeed in bringing this novel music to our neighborhood. You can join this list by going to the following web page: http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/agfree If you do not wish to join this list, please ignore this message. Thanks, henderson.120 at osu.edu List Owner From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jul 8 21:15:23 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 02:15:23 +0100 Subject: HW: BADAM - Transatlantic gigging In-Reply-To: <37839627.477CC152@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Christopher Bruce wrote: > Just before Larry left there was rumor of a THIRD guitarist for DasLud from > him, so things are going to be very interesting in the next month or so while > they woodshed out a set for the show (they have a 90 minute set to fill...). > Ian has been hard at work rebuilding a guitar especially for the event, and > Ive been told that Ron (bass and/or guitar) is very excited about playing the > fest as well. So Carl will be in demand as soon as he surfaces on this side of > the pond... Dammit, you mean they're going to _rehearse_? They're selling out! :-) Yours, Jon From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jul 8 21:26:46 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 02:26:46 +0100 Subject: HW/NIK: Where-abouts of Del Rio/Grenas/Fox? In-Reply-To: <199907080805.JAA28040@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, bart wrote: > > Now I heard they were in the works with this, though I can't > > remember where, and if it was say, Knut's Calvert site, it may well have > > still been referring to `Explaining the Unexplained', but even that was > > only two years ago... > > I've never seen that either. In fact I'm not sure I've ever seen a Pressurehed > album in the UK. I only have _Infradrone_. Hey Tim, for what it's worth Delerium have `Explaining the Unexplained', or did last time I checked. I got the other one, `Sudden Vertigo' from Guy Thomas on this very list, I don't know where he got it from... Yours, Jon From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jul 8 22:12:55 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 03:12:55 +0100 Subject: your mail In-Reply-To: <19990708073930.ZLNT2808@nl-hello> Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Nik Lowenberg wrote: > Am I the only one who doesn't have this problem? Where does the problem > stem from? Which browser versions are you guys using? When I open the > message, there's a little icon down at the bottom and my computer won't > allow me to open it. > > > > Whenever I get to a message from " Christopher Bruce " with a digital > > > signature , my computer freezes in the mail " Inbox " . Can anyone help > > > with this ? Thanks , John Pine copes fine with it, for what it's worth. Just displays it as an attached file it can't read; it would seem to be an encrypted signature block. Yours, Jon From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jul 8 18:53:26 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 22:53:26 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: flossbac wrote: > > I've got the same problem! I am dreading receiving his mail, because it > inevitably causes me to have to power down my computer! > John Majka > flossbac at nlci.com > > > Whenever I get to a message from " Christopher Bruce " with a digital > > signature , my computer freezes in the mail " Inbox " . Can anyone help > with > > this ? Thanks , John > > From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jul 8 19:08:38 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 23:08:38 +0000 Subject: Signature snafu Message-ID: Apologies to all on boc-l for any problems you may have with Verisign Certificate attachments, if you're using Netscape or Outlook they _should_ be no problem to your browser, and I use it intentionally all the time in other newsgroups, but apparently LISTSERV doesn't like it! I'll turn it off for posts to this group, but if you get personal email from me that's got "invalid signature certificate" posted on it, return it to me so I can take it up with Verisign. I pay for my secure mail and expect it to be so at all times unless its been rewritten by an intermediary (thus invalidating the signature, which is what LISTSERV is doing), or I already know that I'm on an insecure routing. You all might think a bit about using digital certificates on your personal email, they're your last vestige of privacy on the internet. PGP is also one of my favorites, but I'd never use it on a newsgroup! If you need my public key for email its in MIT's PGP key library. Again apologies for any trouble my digital paranoia may have caused! "They've got your number, they've got your name..." Verisign is NOT attached to this message! flossbac wrote: > > I've got the same problem! I am dreading receiving his mail, because it > inevitably causes me to have to power down my computer! > John Majka > flossbac at nlci.com > > > Whenever I get to a message from " Christopher Bruce " with a digital > > signature , my computer freezes in the mail " Inbox " . Can anyone help > with > > this ? Thanks , John > > From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 9 05:01:16 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:01:16 +0100 Subject: NIK, OTHER: FS Anubian Lights 2nd album Message-ID: Hi, this is Dave Berry rejoining the list from my home account. I'm ferretting out a few CDs that I no longer want, and this one is among them. It's called "Let Not The Flame Die Out", and it features Nik. The main performers are Tommy Grenas and Len Del Rio. Gilli Smyth and Simon House play on one track each. This album is more varied than their first, but IMO it isn't as hypnotic, and if I want middle-eastern influenced techno, I turn to Transglobal Underground. So, for sale to anyone in the UK for 6 pounds including postage. If someone outside the UK wants it, then I can check postage rates. Dave. From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Fri Jul 9 01:24:42 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 05:24:42 +0000 Subject: BOC: New England and Compilation Message-ID: > Oh yeah, if the King Biscuit thing ever happens, we all have to run > out and get that too. Is that project dead in the water? I'd give > anything to hear a live Flaming Telepaths or Stairway. There's only one song that will get my to buy this one, if it's on there -- Wings of Mercury! I only heard that song once, at the Broome County Arena in Binghamton. A very underrated song that should never have been buried. Possibly the best tune from the Club Ninja era. -- Nick From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jul 9 07:26:18 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 07:26:18 EDT Subject: BOC: New England and Compilation In-Reply-To: <199907090910.FAA26783@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: > From: "" > > There's only one song that will get my to buy this one, if it's on > there -- Wings of Mercury! I only heard that song once, at the Broome > County Arena in Binghamton. A very underrated song that should never > have been buried. Possibly the best tune from the Club Ninja era. > Amen! Considering the garbage they put on that album, how could they NOT have included WoM? I heard it once too, on the infamous CN tour, which, sadly, saw BOC embarking on their current club-band incarnation. How appropriate that CN's appearance should go hand in hand with the band's descent from Valhalla...WoM was a kick-ass tune live. Too bad they don't dust it off and play it live every once in a while, esp. at the 'biker fests' that they play at occasionally. BTW, speaking of BOC's bike tunes, has anyone heard them play Feel the Thunder live? I know I heard it at least once, on the RbN tour...Song ruled live! theo From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Fri Jul 9 08:44:13 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 22:44:13 +1000 Subject: HW/OFF: Agitation Free list Message-ID: > I would like to invite you to join the agfree mailing list. Keith, Did you know of this new release? AGITATION FREE - TEH OTHER SIDES OF AGITATION FREE CD Rel.date: 12-07-99 ATM ATC-2560 Soniqu? -- PO Box 378 Paul Ward Ashburton http://sonique.net VIC 3147 (time permitting) Mob:0418 524744 sonique at sonique.net From adrian.brevard at EDS.COM Fri Jul 9 10:52:52 1999 From: adrian.brevard at EDS.COM (Brevard, Adrian R) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:52:52 -0400 Subject: OFF: Way off, Richard Meltzer Message-ID: >Reading through his article here reminded me of trying to read through his book "The Aesthetics of Rock" -- I just DON'T GET IT. I'm not saying that it is therefore bad, but it just goes against a lot of my way of thinking about music in general. He seems to place way more "significance" to so many aspects to music than I do - for me, it's just rock and roll - it sounds good and makes me feel good - end of story. Rock and roll is simple, it either Rox or it Sux. Do we really need to make it more than that? Successful bands like Kiss will tell you no. >Again, the above isn't meant to bash Meltzer. Some of you probably "get" his stuff and enjoy it. To me, it just leaves me scratching my head trying to figure out exactly what the hell I missed back there in the 60s in my pre-school years... Well I was just hitting puberty back then but would surmise you missed a golden opportunity to be as weird and delusional as Mr. Meltzer. In retrospect you are far better off. Meltzer may stifll be suffering 60's backlash. >I think maybe it's just a fundamental difference of opinion of what rock music is to each of us. To me, it's a form of sonic enjoyment to me - gets my blood pumping, head banging, etc. On the otherhand, here's a quote from Meltzer on his definition of rock: >"Although what, precisely, was/is rocka rocka roll--or punk--or any kind of youth twitch--supposed to entail "if not that"? If not the high risk of behaving like a FLYING FUCKING ASSHOLE?" >Dunno - maybe since he mentioned it as a "youth twitch", maybe I'm just getting to old... Nope you're getting better. Seriously, Meltzer has his theories and beliefs and we have ours. If you place too much significance on any one thing you are likely to stop enjoying it...until or unless it meets your narrow definitions of what is good or bad. Do you play (for the sake of argument only) Y&T's Black Tiger album to dissect the chords/lyrics/spiritual meaning or just to air guitar? Count me with the latter group. I could care less what the band was thinking when they wrote/recorded...it makes me want to lip synch. >By the way, thought I would cut-n-paste a bit from that article for those who didn't read it all -- apparently Meltzer ain't on good terms with Sandy Pearlman: OK here is the meat of what I found so interesting in your post (loved the whole thing BTW but this makes me salivate). Is it my imagination or are the fringe people form BOC's history immature? Pearlman, Meltzer these guys seem to bash the band, each other...the whole world relentlessly. Are they seeking attention, adulation...what? Maybe there were some real conflicts within the group at any given time, however it seems that only those guys who laced them up and hit the stage have any decency/common sense. For the band the focus was the music...didn't matter if it was painful getting there or if the final product was any good. They did a hell of a job keeping a good face to the public. I cannot think of any band that has not had its share of turmoil...its how you handle the adversity. I admire each and every one one of the original members of this group, but none as much as Al. He's mostly taken the high road on what went on. Never said he was blameless...but more importantly never used this particular forum to air dirty laundry. Sure there were some times when a little somthin' somethin' would come out...generally he kept it a private business/personal matter. I don't recall Eric, Buck or Alan ever doing this on AOL either. You look at Meltzer or Pearlman and these guys are eager to use any forum to do their thing. A real pity for two pitiful small minded individuals. I dunno (I do know I'm rambling) perhaps we should all take a step back and look at the guys who played simply as the guys who played and brought us untold enjoyment for having done so. Maybe look at all bands/muscians this way. What are your choices? Take it for what it is or to "Go Behind the Music" and venture into other aspects that are really none of our business anyway? For fear of becomming a Meltzer I think I'm just gonna kick back and froog. ============================================ Couple of random tidbits - I'm looking on the sunny side of the possible Sony release. If they should re-master this package it is worth getting, irregardless of what finally makes the cut. Obviously Sony will only do this to make a profit but it is a backhand compliment to each and everyone of us. They (Sony) may have finally acknowledged that their are a sufficient number of BOC fans out there that will stick with this band thru thick and thin. WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE!!!! Get off your duffs people - if it is duplicative but remastered then buy it. If its another Sony "...lay the stuff out and see how many suckers we catch this time"... type deal then give them your middle fingers pointing vertically and horizontally ("Ya you geeks you and the horse you rode in on") Teen Archer - Wow I'm so 360...somebody says it was the weakest song on T&M and I always thought it the strongest. Do hope this one makes the grade on the new Sony package. Live stuff - There are tons of good live BOC I cannot possibly rank them. I do flip flop a lot tho except Subhuman from F/K still gives me goosebumps after all these years. I also get cised for the SEE version of DFtR. Please oh please CMC let the next BOC release be a live one...rent them a hall...make the tix prices affordable and do two-three sets. Pick/choose/clean it up a little but try to maintain the edge that is BOC right in front of the stage. L8er Ghost in the Ruins NP Y&T - Live on the Friday Rock Show Black Tiger...ready to strike...looking for a victim in the heat of the night...Black Tiger... From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Jul 9 11:31:22 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 11:31:22 EDT Subject: OFF: Way off, Richard Meltzer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: "Brevard, Adrian R" > > Is it my imagination or are the fringe people form BOC's history immature? I'm not sure I'd describe SP and RM as fringe dwellers. I think they each had a huge impact [for ill or good--you decide] on BOC, esp. in the early days. Compare the sainted first 3 albums to those that followed. Perhaps 'cause I'm an old fuck who was there since the beginning, but to me the first 3 albums--those displaying the greatest SP/RM influence--are the best. Now maybe the band was just writing their best stuff back then as well. How many times do we see bands whose first few albums represent their greatest accomplishment, only to overshadow subsequent work? So, is the greatness of the first 3 due to RM/SP's participation, or simply the band was at a creative peak? We need to call upon Al to offer an opinion here... > Pearlman, Meltzer these guys seem to bash the band, each other...the whole > world relentlessly. Are they seeking attention, adulation...what? AB, I think they are bitter because they realize the greatness that they were associated with, and they also realize that they couldn't sustain it, and that the band, for whatever reasons, decided to do things on their own. They know they were part of a truly great band, but that, through their own failings, allowed it to slip through their fingers. At one point, they were at the top of the heavy music heap, now: where are they now! Again, Al's insight would tell us volumes... > I cannot think of any band that has not had its share of turmoil...its how > you handle the adversity. I admire each and every one one of the original > members of this group, but none as much as Al. He's mostly taken the high > road on what went on. Never said he was blameless...but more importantly > never used this particular forum to air dirty laundry. Sure there were some > times when a little somthin' somethin' would come out...generally he kept it > a private business/personal matter. I don't recall Eric, Buck or Alan ever > doing this on AOL either. Well, mighty big of 'em considering the abortion that accompanied Imaginos, eh? But I hear ya. Ever read any interviews with Ed Van Halen regarding Dave or Sammy? He relentlessly pounds them, whereas whenever they're interviewed, they keep things pretty clean. Makes it hard to side with EVH! > > You look at Meltzer or Pearlman and these guys are eager to use any forum to > do their thing. A real pity for two pitiful small minded individuals. > Well, it's the only forum they have left. They've fucked themselves as far as the music biz goes. Now all they can do is rant in print! > ============================================ > > Couple of random tidbits - > > I'm looking on the sunny side of the possible Sony release. If they should > re-master this package it is worth getting, irregardless of what finally > makes the cut. Agreed. I'll buy a remastered comp. pretty much regardless of what's on it...But only if it's remastered... > Teen Archer - Wow I'm so 360...somebody says it was the weakest song on T&M > and I always thought it the strongest. Do hope this one makes the grade on > the new Sony package. You never heard it from me! TA's a classic! > > Live stuff - There are tons of good live BOC I cannot possibly rank them. I > do flip flop a lot tho except Subhuman from F/K still gives me goosebumps > after all these years. I also get cised for the SEE version of DFtR. > Please oh please CMC let the next BOC release be a live one...rent them a > hall...make the tix prices affordable and do two-three sets. > Pick/choose/clean it up a little but try to maintain the edge that is BOC > right in front of the stage. How right you are! The new live material is SO great. Telepaths, BD's incredible new intro to DFtR, Lips--there's so much good stuff! theo From andy.ball at RD.BBC.CO.UK Fri Jul 9 11:45:15 1999 From: andy.ball at RD.BBC.CO.UK (Andy Ball) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 16:45:15 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind festival plug on R1 Message-ID: Hi all, Had to share this with you all: Whilst driving down the motorway listening to BBC Radio 1 on the "Mark and Lard " show at about 15:50, There was a woman from Buxton on who was doing one of their phone in quizes. After telling the presenters that she was from Buxton, one of them said, "Are you going to see Hawkwind at the festival?". She replied yes probably, and the DJ then said Oh Good! First time I've heard Hawkwind mentioned on national radio since the good old days of the Friday Rock Show!! p.s.. Does anyone know if one can just turn up on the day to the festival??? Back to lurking........ Andy From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Jul 9 12:26:03 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:26:03 -0400 Subject: OFF: Way off, Richard Meltzer Message-ID: >> From: "Brevard, Adrian R" >> >> Is it my imagination or are the fringe people form BOC's history immature? > >I'm not sure I'd describe SP and RM as fringe dwellers. I think they >each had a huge impact [for ill or good--you decide] on BOC, esp. in >the early days. Compare the sainted first 3 albums to those that >followed. Perhaps 'cause I'm an old fuck who was there since the >beginning, but to me the first 3 albums--those displaying the >greatest SP/RM influence--are the best. Now maybe the band was just >writing their best stuff back then as well. How many times do we see >bands whose first few albums represent their greatest accomplishment, >only to overshadow subsequent work? So, is the greatness of the >first 3 due to RM/SP's participation, or simply the band was at a >creative peak? We need to call upon Al to offer an opinion here... >From what I've read, the biggest changes from the first 3 to the ones that followed were more due to things like the 4-track units that allowed them to write stuff more on their own, that they weren't living together in the same place like they used to, and they weren't overtly trying to do the "paint a picture of hell" motif so much anymore.... >AB, I think they are bitter because they realize the greatness that >they were associated with, and they also realize that they couldn't >sustain it, and that the band, for whatever reasons, decided to do >things on their own. They know they were part of a truly great band, >but that, through their own failings, allowed it to slip through >their fingers. At one point, they were at the top of the heavy music >heap, now: where are they now! Again, Al's insight would tell us >volumes... Meltzer, in particular, appears to have something out for Al Lanier, some kind of falling out... >> Teen Archer - Wow I'm so 360...somebody says it was the weakest song on T&M >> and I always thought it the strongest. Do hope this one makes the grade on >> the new Sony package. > >You never heard it from me! TA's a classic! I think Teen Archer's keyboard riff is my favorite, recently passing Flaming Telepaths (though I still like FT overall a bit more...) =============== Andrew Apold Systems Administrator II Facilies Development & Operations Palm Beach County From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Fri Jul 9 12:45:04 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:45:04 EDT Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles In Philly Message-ID: The Ozric Tentacles return to the U.S. and play Philadelphia last night. Great show, but some things worth mentioning: The Ozrics, partly famous for their awesome light show is traveling with a scaled back version of it. Last night, at the TLA show in phily they had images projected on the background behind the band (which was fantastic) and minus the strobes, which actually are my fav part of the show. As far as playing, the band was in top shape, and as excellent as I've remembered them from 5 years ago. And as I've committed no song titles to memory (which is usually the case for me with instrumentals), it would be difficult to elaborate. Anticipating a 2+ hour show, the band was apparently cut off by the club at 1:00 PM after only about 100 minutes. The opening act was Ronnie Montrose, someone I had forgotten about completely until last night, and although his set was good, it's likely that he'll remain forgotten until he shows up somewhere else. The 2nd band was (quoting the Ozrics) "a poor man's James Bond"???, I think they were called the Starmen?...totally forgettable. Anyway, can't wait to see Ozric Tentacles again, maybe a trip to the Wetlands is in order? So long and thanks for all the fish Bob http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jul 9 13:37:23 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 18:37:23 +0100 Subject: OFF: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" Set-List In-Reply-To: <1c0d0c5e.24a80390@aol.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > "Space Does Not Care", Sat, June 26, 1999, 88.3 KUCR > > 20.Nik Turner--Space Station Announcement Ooh, what's that? What's it on? Yours, jon From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jul 9 13:49:38 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 18:49:38 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind festival plug on R1 Message-ID: Didn't you hear the HW session on Mark Radcliffe's old evening show some 4 years ago? It was shortly before the Rock & Blues Festival in '95 and was the first opportunity most of (in the UK) had to hear Ron with the band. Nick >Hi all, > >Had to share this with you all: >Whilst driving down the motorway listening to BBC Radio 1 on the "Mark and >Lard " show at about 15:50, There was a woman from Buxton on who was doing >one of their phone in quizes. After telling the presenters that she was >from Buxton, one of them said, "Are you going to see Hawkwind at the >festival?". She replied yes probably, and the DJ then said Oh Good! > >First time I've heard Hawkwind mentioned on national radio since the good >old days of the Friday Rock Show!! > >p.s.. >Does anyone know if one can just turn up on the day to the festival??? > >Back to lurking........ > >Andy From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jul 9 14:07:50 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 19:07:50 +0100 Subject: Inner City Unit Cassettes Message-ID: Hi Trev, I'll be popping a cheque in the post shortly for a copy of the Iron Maiden CD (I never thought I'd be buying an Iron Maiden CD but there you go!) and a cassette copy of Maximum Effect. Do you have any details on the Brixton gigs? Dates maybe? Cheers, Nick From john.m.gray at CWIX.COM Fri Jul 9 14:16:22 1999 From: john.m.gray at CWIX.COM (John Gray) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 11:16:22 -0700 Subject: Chris Bruce's Mail Message-ID: It freezes my computer as well when I am online, but if I disconnect then I can delete them and get Outlook Express back to normal. I wish he would do us a favor and stop sending his messages with these digital IDs. John From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Jul 9 14:51:59 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 11:51:59 -0700 Subject: OFF: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" Set-List Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Jul 1999 18:37:23 +0100, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >On Sun, 27 Jun 1999, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > >> "Space Does Not Care", Sat, June 26, 1999, 88.3 KUCR >> >> 20.Nik Turner--Space Station Announcement > > Ooh, what's that? What's it on? >Yours, > jon It's on the 'Prophets of Time' CD (Cleopatra), the second Nik CD on that label, featuring the usual suspects (Grenas/Del Rio/Fox/Helios Creed/Del/Simon House) doing mostly remakes of Inner City Unit tunes (GREAT version of "Stonehenge Who Knows" with Simon playing an amazing violin solo), as well as a few recitations of Moorcock poems, including this one, actually spoken by Genesis P. Orridge (Throbbing Gristle, Psychick TV, blah blah etc.). As one would come to expect for releases of this ilk, all the ICU tunes are credited to Nik (even though most were written and/or co-written by Dead Fred and/or Judge Trev), even "Nuclear Waste", which wasn't even written by ANY ICU members! In short, not as essential Nik as the live CD's on Cleopatra, but still 20 times better than the Pinkwind albums. Completely worth it IMO for the version of "Stonehenge Who Knows" by itself. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jul 9 14:41:41 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (David G) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 19:41:41 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind festival plug on R1 Message-ID: This is a joke, right? Mark Radcliffe???? (Cue sounds of crashing pre-suppositions) I don't suppose anyone has a tape of this? Dave NP: Buffalo Daughter - Shaggy Head Dressers Nick Lee wrote: > Didn't you hear the HW session on Mark Radcliffe's old evening show some 4 > years ago? It was shortly before the Rock & Blues Festival in '95 and was > the first opportunity most of (in the UK) had to hear Ron with the band. > > Nick > > >Hi all, > > > >Had to share this with you all: > >Whilst driving down the motorway listening to BBC Radio 1 on the "Mark and > >Lard " show at about 15:50, There was a woman from Buxton on who was doing > >one of their phone in quizes. After telling the presenters that she was > >from Buxton, one of them said, "Are you going to see Hawkwind at the > >festival?". She replied yes probably, and the DJ then said Oh Good! > > > >First time I've heard Hawkwind mentioned on national radio since the good > >old days of the Friday Rock Show!! > > > >p.s.. > >Does anyone know if one can just turn up on the day to the festival??? > > > >Back to lurking........ > > > >Andy From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Fri Jul 9 14:57:48 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 14:57:48 -0400 Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles In Philly Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Bob Lennon To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Friday, July 09, 1999 1:21 PM Subject: OFF: Ozric Tentacles In Philly >The Ozric Tentacles return to the U.S. and play Philadelphia last night. >Great show, but some things worth mentioning: >The Ozrics, partly famous for their awesome light show is traveling with a >scaled back version of it. Last night, at the TLA show in phily they had >images projected on the background behind the band (which was fantastic) and >minus the strobes, which actually are my fav part of the show. Wow. The intense light show was the reason I QUIT going... RJ From Mariej at BIGWIG.NET Sun Jul 4 04:59:23 1999 From: Mariej at BIGWIG.NET (Marie Jenkinson) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 09:59:23 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind festival plug on R1 Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Ball To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Friday, July 09, 1999 4:45 PM Subject: Hawkwind festival plug on R1 > Hi all, > > Had to share this with you all: > Whilst driving down the motorway listening to BBC Radio 1 on the "Mark and > Lard " show at about 15:50, There was a woman from Buxton on who was doing > one of their phone in quizes. After telling the presenters that she was > from Buxton, one of them said, "Are you going to see Hawkwind at the > festival?". She replied yes probably, and the DJ then said Oh Good! > > First time I've heard Hawkwind mentioned on national radio since the good > old days of the Friday Rock Show!! Mark and Lard have mentioned BADAM a couple of times over the last few weeks, they may even turn up there! > p.s.. > Does anyone know if one can just turn up on the day to the festival??? > Yes, unless the 5000 limit is reached, you never know it could happen, ticket sales have been quite good. check out http://www.badam99.freeserve.co.uk/ for details. Cheers, Marie. From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jul 9 15:12:27 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 19:12:27 GMT Subject: Hawkwind festival plug on R1 + Bike Show In-Reply-To: <003501beca33$6c3666c0$a347a8c2@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: >Didn't you hear the HW session on Mark Radcliffe's old evening show some 4 >years ago? It was shortly before the Rock & Blues Festival in '95 and was >the first opportunity most of (in the UK) had to hear Ron with the band. > And when he had his first national radio show (Out On Blue Six *i think*) on R1 he kicked off with Brainstorm, iirc. Might have been MotU, but probably Brainstorm. And I'm 99% certain that he once said that Stacia was his aunty. Oh and the info number for the bike show that HW are going to be playing at is 01492 535626. andrew, well pissed off cos both these things are on my doorstep and i'm too broke to go to either. Bah humbug and curse all this sun (nice doley tan tho') Gouts of blood! Kill all the squares! - The Cramps From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jul 9 15:13:09 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 19:13:09 GMT Subject: ICU/Iron Maiden cassettes In-Reply-To: <19990708124912.27830.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: >See 'I.C.U. Cassettes' for other I.C.U. merchandising. any live ICU tapes left knocking around? andrew Gouts of blood! Kill all the squares! - The Cramps From StevenTice at AOL.COM Fri Jul 9 15:11:58 1999 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 15:11:58 EDT Subject: BOC: Richard Meltzer, Pearlman Message-ID: What I find interesting is that Pearlman's contribution to BOC's music on the first three albums is much greater than Meltzer's. The pre-BOC versions of the band saw a bit more Meltzer influence, but if you look at the first three BOC albums (26 tracks), Pearlman is credited on 15 songs, Meltzer on only 5. Interestingly, the next two studio albums (sandwiched between the first two live albums) contain only 3 songs (out of 20 total tracks) by Meltzer and Pearlman combined...quite a sea change. Steven Tice Calliope Comics From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jul 9 15:18:51 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 20:18:51 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind festival plug on R1 Message-ID: David G wrote: >This is a joke, right? Mark Radcliffe???? (Cue sounds of crashing >pre-suppositions) > >I don't suppose anyone has a tape of this? > >Dave > >NP: Buffalo Daughter - Shaggy Head Dressers No shit. Mark Radcliffe quite frequently played Hawkwind and sometimes Hawk instrumentals were used as backings for the readings/recitals that minor pop celebs would do on his evening show (my favourites of these, although not using Hawk backings, were Noddy Holder reading reading Winnie the Pooh and one of the Manic Street Preachers reading from Deke Leonard's autibiog). Before I was listening to it I believe Richard C was interviewed after a Manchester gig. Other bands that have featured on his show in those days (when the playlist was own), either in session or frequently played, included the Ozrics, Ship of Fools, the Cardiacs and Bevis Frond. I have a tape of the Hawk session but currently no facility for tape-to-taping. (one of the reasons I've not been in touch Bernhard - sorry!). I'm sure several people out there will have it. Is it included on the BBC Sessions CD that IMVS are still waitning to send me (still unreleased, I assume), I wonder? Nick From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jul 9 16:00:49 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 20:00:49 GMT Subject: Hawkwind festival plug on R1 In-Reply-To: <002001beca3f$f5b23580$c978a8c2@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: >No shit. Mark Radcliffe quite frequently played Hawkwind and sometimes Hawk >instrumentals were used as backings for the readings/recitals that minor pop >celebs would do on his evening show (my favourites of these, although not >using Hawk backings, were Noddy Holder reading reading Winnie the Pooh and Ah-hah! Which reminds me that he once got Baron Brock reading Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas which i have snippets of *somewhere* on tape... andrew Gouts of blood! Kill all the squares! - The Cramps From JOHNANDBEVBONO at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Fri Jul 9 16:37:34 1999 From: JOHNANDBEVBONO at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (JOHN BONO) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 16:37:34 -0400 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Thanks for understanding our frustration- stupid computers !! ----- Original Message ----- From: Christopher Bruce To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 6:53 PM > flossbac wrote: > > > > I've got the same problem! I am dreading receiving his mail, because it > > inevitably causes me to have to power down my computer! > > John Majka > > flossbac at nlci.com > > > > > Whenever I get to a message from " Christopher Bruce " with a digital > > > signature , my computer freezes in the mail " Inbox " . Can anyone help > > with > > > this ? Thanks , John > > > From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Fri Jul 9 17:01:07 1999 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 16:01:07 -0500 Subject: OFF: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE" Set-List Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: > blah etc.). As one would come to expect for releases of this ilk, all the > ICU tunes are credited to Nik (even though most were written and/or > co-written by Dead Fred and/or Judge Trev), even "Nuclear Waste", which > wasn't even written by ANY ICU members! > Why would this be? Why not give the proper credit? From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jul 9 21:00:05 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 21:00:05 -0400 Subject: OFF: U. of Errors Message-ID: Hi Folks... For those on the west coast, check out this new joint project between the cool SF improv band Mushroom and Gong's Daevid Allen. Here's a bit of my review of their debut album...the tour dates follow. Daevid Allen's University of Errors - Money Doesn't Make It (1999) innerSPACE 7707 A chance meeting between Gong's Daevid Allen and the members of Mushroom led to the entirely spontaneous formation of 'The University of Errors.' Literally days later, the tracks archived on "Money Doesn't Make It" were recorded, and now less than a year later we can all enjoy the results of this synergistic pairing. The mixing of Daevid's unique word-play compositions with the improvisational genius of Mushroom's core members has produced a fine work of art, but one that also has a message and a heaping of sly humor. Daevid (it doesn't seem right calling him 'Allen') wasn't blessed with the world's best singing voice, but here he puts on quite an excellent vocal performance. And even though there is no hint of synthesizers (or keyboards of any kind) herein, it retains a truly cosmic feel throughout. I don't know where this union of Bay Area musicnauts and the 'Astral Alien' will eventually lead, or even whether it will continue with regularity (the planned live dates are a promising sign), but this is the strongest release from the Gong family I've heard in a long while. It's the kind of thing though that certainly feeds on spontaneity - so I hope future efforts also happen without any prior planning, as it seems to have worked wonders on this debut effort. Go out of your way to track this one down, if you can. Contact: innerSPACE, P.O. Box 411241, San Francisco, CA 94141 Keith H. (FAA) >Daevid Allen's >UNIVERSITY OF ERRORS >July 1999 Tour Dates > >July 16 - Art Rattan Company > 1218 Miller Ave., Oakland, Ca > Benefit For Anne's Cello > W/ Armageddon String Quartet >July 17 - Starry Plough > Berkeley, Ca. > W/Thumb Of The Maid >July 22 - Berbati's Pan > Portland, Or. > W/Rockin' Teenage Combo > & The Gone Orchestra >July 23 - The Rainbow > Seattle, Wa. > W/Rockin' Teenage Combo >July 24 - Sam Bond's Garage > Eugene, Or. >July 25 - Buffalo Gals @ Center for Appropriate Transport > 455 West 1st Ave > Semi Private Party. > Eugene, Or. >July 27 - Bottom Of The Hill > San Francisco, Ca. > Waxing Full Moon Party > W/Rockin' Teenage Combo & Azigza > >CD Out Now!!!!! >Daevid Allen's University Of errors >Money Doesn't Make It >http://www.innerSPACErecords.com > >there is a nice review and short sound samples at CDNow. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jul 9 21:18:04 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 21:18:04 -0400 Subject: HW/OFF: Strange Daze '99 Message-ID: Hi Folks... Just had a brief correspondence with Jim Lascko about Strange Daze. The lineup seems to be set and the late night tent thing seems to be happening. However, the 'tent company' wants Jim to front up $1000 he doesn't have to get the thing on site. For those who don't know what I'm talking about, last year the main stage curfew was strictly enforced and meant that StrangeWind's set was cut short (sound familiar?), and also only one band per night was able to use a light show (since it stays light so long this time of year). So there will be a separate smaller stage inside some sort of large canvas tent that will start up at Midnight both Friday and Saturday nights. More 'subtle' bands like Bionaut (related to ArcMet), Drumplay, and Canis Minor will play in the tent until all hours of the morning, or until enough complaints are called in. :) Loud nasty bands like Born To Go will be banned from this sort of late-night behaviour. :) Anyway, I encourage everyone here to order tix now (www.strange-trips.com) so that Jim can have the money available to have the tent there. Should be a cool addition to an already awesome event. The schedule is nearing completion. I can tell you that Helios & Tribe of Cro will be the Fri. evening entertainment, and A.P. followed by Anubian Lights & Nik Turner/Farflung on Saturday. Of course, lots of other great bands will grace the stage as well...some of you lot even! :) Well, see you there...I'm doing the 'program' so if you wanna help with a band you're particularly knowledgable/fond of (or advertise something spacerock-related for a small fee), contact me personally (henderson.120 at osu.edu) and I'll let you help! Keith H. (FAA) From pn013 at LAMP.AC.UK Sat Jul 10 05:42:05 1999 From: pn013 at LAMP.AC.UK (THE CIDER KING) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:42:05 GMT Subject: OFF: Feeling all alone Message-ID: Hello, No mail for 2 whole days! No BOC, no HW, no OFF. What a great life I lead to start worrying when I don't get mail! Anyway it does seem awfully quiet. Anyone there or have I been cut off by the college computer system staff? Cheers, Martin "And when the party's over, It's all over" - Blue Oyster Cult From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jul 9 14:02:10 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 19:02:10 +0100 Subject: NIK, OTHER: FS Anubian Lights 2nd album In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990709095529.00953290@pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <4.1.19990709095529.00953290 at pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk>, Dave Berry writes >Hi, this is Dave Berry rejoining the list from my home account. welcome back, Dave! -- Jon From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Jul 10 05:56:18 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 10:56:18 +0100 Subject: long or short? In-Reply-To: <48247591.24aba6fb@aol.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 30 Jun 1999 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > i'm surely not a 'cult aficionado; didnt even know there WAS a version of > "reaper" minus the middle break. did that version get am radio airplay in > 1976? and why would such a thing still get aiplay? yuck! I think it's that because the cut version (which is dead boring and converts 'Reaper' nastily into that rather goth pop song it has always nearly been) is shorter, and it winds up on more compilations, and I think that's how most stations have any BOC these days... 'Reaper' is still the only BOC track I have ever heard on the radio. Yours, Jon From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sat Jul 10 10:46:41 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:46:41 +0100 Subject: OFF: GREATEST NEWS HEADLINE OF THE YEAR? Message-ID: Hawkwind save the world at; http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot/space.htm -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "There's no walls in music. It's like water; there's currents." --Corey Harris From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Jul 10 13:00:54 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:00:54 -0400 Subject: OFF: GREATEST NEWS HEADLINE OF THE YEAR? In-Reply-To: <37875CD1.CD394659@connectfree.co.uk> Message-ID: "Space rock taskforce could save the Earth" Ain't that the truth!! Let us mobilise immediately!... Cheers, Paul. NP: Roy Bookbinder, _Travelin' Man_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Sat Jul 10 13:45:51 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 13:45:51 -0400 Subject: OFF: Helen Wheels show Message-ID: Anyone going to be at the show tonight? Theo? There's an opening band and the gig is listed to start at 10:00. As Daslud wrote: Monty's Korner 363 East Ave. Rochester 716-263-7650 It's not far from Richmonds, where the Brain Surgeons played last year. Brian obBallGame> Yankees vs. Mets From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Sat Jul 10 15:10:33 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:10:33 -0500 Subject: long or short? Message-ID: Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jun 1999 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > > > i'm surely not a 'cult aficionado; didnt even know there WAS a version of > > "reaper" minus the middle break. did that version get am radio airplay in > > 1976? and why would such a thing still get aiplay? yuck! > > I think it's that because the cut version (which is dead boring > and converts 'Reaper' nastily into that rather goth pop song it has always > nearly been) is shorter, and it winds up on more compilations, and I think > that's how most stations have any BOC these days... 'Reaper' is still the > only BOC track I have ever heard on the radio. Yours, > Jon "Burnin' for You" receives equal attention by classic rock/popmetallish stations in MA at least. Jocks love it! From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Jul 10 15:21:42 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 15:21:42 EDT Subject: HW: HW/Nik/A. Lights/Brain/Farflung FS/T and Misc. Message-ID: Hello. I finally visited the Rhino Records in West L.A. and man was the used section a beauty. What I picked up for you: Used: 1. Anubian Lights--Eternal Sky 2. Brain--Access and Amplify 3. Farflung--So Many Minds, So Little Time 4. Nik Turner--Space Ritual 1994 (punch-hole) and I still have these: Hawkwind--Space Bandits (Castle) " --Masters of the Universe (Thunderbolt, SS, cut-out) " --Space Ritual 2 (Thunderbolt, SS, cut-out) I really need money now, but I'd like to see what ya'll have for trade; I'm tumbling, end over end... What I bought for myself (again, all used, and for _very_ nice prices ): 1. Space Explosion (recent collaboration of Krautrockers) 2. The Nazgul (looks like a couple Tolkein-crazed Germans, mid '70s) 3. Magic Mushroom Band--The Spaced Collection 4. Brainticket--Voyage 5. " --Adventure 6. Dark Matter--Seeing Strange Lights (H. Creed ambient) Other items I've picked up recently but haven't mentioned to the list yet: Dilate--Cyclos Mother Gong Live '91 Mirza--Anadromous Ozrics--Pungent Effulgent K. Schultze--Dig It Beyondomatic (in the 99 cent bin! Thanks to AI, or I might have passed this by...) Banco de Gaia--Live at Glastonbury (blatantly Orb-ish, but good) Space Box (excellent collection, but they left off Hawklords' "Time Of..."! Still have not heard this song; it's on Cleo's recent HW comp, but damned if I'm gonna buy that thing just for one song...well, there's the Brock int., too, but I heard it was short and/or mediocre) Hash Jar Tempo--Under Glass (also from the 99 cent nin, sealed. The cover had the sticker Bardo Pond and someone Montgomery. I thought I recognized the name BP from this list; not bad, droney improv. psyche in the Mirza/Subarachnoid Space vein) Chuck From Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sat Jul 10 14:59:10 1999 From: Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Nik Lowenberg) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 14:59:10 -0400 Subject: HW: T/shirts and general merchandise Message-ID: The Hawkwind t-shirt I would love to wear is actually a long sleeved thing that Nik Turner can be seen wearing in those photos from Lund 1975 and more recently in a great pic of Nik Turner from 1976 on the Hawkeye on Hawkwind site (where did it come from?). It's a cool off white long sleeved shirt with a circular logo thing in the middle, which I think is about the 1975 tour. Where those widely available in 1975? -Nik From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Jul 10 17:41:21 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 17:41:21 EDT Subject: OFF: Sundial Message-ID: Addendum to my recently acquired list (came in the mail today): SUNDIAL--OTHER WAY OUT!!!! Finally. Now all I need is Return Journey. I'm gonna try to fit "Plains of Nazca" into my set tonight. ---The person who directly turned me onto Sundial was Capt. Cloud (Chuck Johnson), who seems MIA. Too bad, I had some questions to ask him regarding this CD, but perhaps someone else can clear this up: Was there a Sundial release that had an edited version of "Plains of Nazca" (was it a single?); 'cause Chuck taped me a 3-4 minute track and now that I have the album it see it's a few minutes longer. Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Jul 10 20:12:44 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 20:12:44 EDT Subject: OFF: Space Rock Reviews from Prog NG Message-ID: ---Saw a few things in here that I've never heard mention of on BOC-L, so I thought the Hawk-contingent here might be interested... Chuck Subject: some reviews From: "spacefreak" Date: Sat, 10 July 1999 01:03 PM EDT Message-id: <7m7u8f$3qi$1 at newssrv.otenet.gr> Few reviews of the stuff I got lately (not strictly progressive though)? CIRCLE 'Fraten" Outstanding space rock cum kraut band from Finland. With multiple influences ranging from repetitive CAN, CLUSTER and NEU sounds to loose HAWKWINDish jams and JESSAMINE post rock freshness, they play with a dinstinct sense for complex and weird music. Analogue keyboards and electronics, interwoven with floating guitar lines, this is aural bliss? QUARKSPACE "Spacefolds 5" NATIONAL STEAM "National steam" I grouped these two together because they are the brainchilds of Dave Wexler and Paul Williams. For both bands spacerock is the base of departure but different directions are followed. QUARKSPACE has a more floating sound that flirts with the 70ies german electronic scene, especially mid period TANGERINE DREAM and ASH RA TEMPEL sequencers.The sound is constantly uplifting, in times hazy but elegantly flourished withprogressive and jazzy elements. NATIONAL STEAM are more improvisational and esoteric, a strange mixture of "Ummagumma" period PINK FLOYD, early HAWKWIND and west coast acid guitar improvisations. There is also some well digested modern electronica thrown in? Both albums are excellent and totally recommended trip outs. UNLIMBO "Prahna fish" This is for lovers of the good old OZRIC TENTACLES. Festival vibes, hippie space rock with ethnic (middle eastern and arabic) jams, clouds of didjeridoo and sitar, a good dose of cosmic dub and british folk jigs consist one of the trippiest deleriums of 1998. Absolute space psychedelic must. ZONE SIX "Zone 6" A 90ies version of ASH RA TEMPEL's "Schwingungen". Trippy, ultra psychedelic cosmic krautrock, with echoing female vocals, abstract floating guitar based soundscapes, mellotrons and an impressive flair for improvisation. A very mindblowing album from one of the best german bands around. OLE LUKKOYE "Doo doo doo (Remedy for a dwarf)" Russia's ultimate space rock band on their 3rd album. This is a monumental release, featuring 7 long tracks of a unique ethnic flavoured progressive. Pagan acid rituals, dark balkan soundscapes, breathtaking beauty, shamanistic spiritual depth, fantastic mixes of traditional acoustic instruments and layers of resonating guitars and keyboards,result in a deep mind trance. This must be THE release of 1998. ATMAN "Tradition" Close in sonic mentality to OLE LUKKOYE but utterly acoustic, like a stoned version of THIRD EAR BAND, comes Poland's ATMAN. On their 3rd full length album and with the addition of vocalistAnna Nacher, they abandon the long trippy ethnic improvisations for a more "song" structured, yet utterly otherwordly, approach. A colourful patchwork of earth rituals that flow linked into a folky AMON DUUL 2 lysergic trip. Excellent! STONE BREATH "A silver thread to weave the seasons" This duo part of American band MOURNING CLOACK issued their 2nd album of hazy psychedelic folk. Very 70ies sounding INCREDIBLE STRING BAND influenced songs with loads of exotic instrumentation, bizarre ethnic fragments and a dark medieval atmosphere. The best american prodressive/psychedelic folk act of the moment. FIM FROIL "Fim froil" A german duo, consisted of Limo (SHINY GNOMES, FIT & LIMO, DISCOLOR) and Riff (COMIC GARDENERS, RIFF & THE MADHATTERS). As it is expected, a very dreamy psychedelic album full of the old PINK FLOYD type fairytale influence.Fuzzed out guitars, harmonium drones, spaced-out synths, sitars ? all the elements are here to create a zonked late night delight for head people. AUM "Aum" New belgian band with a very modern ambient spacy sound, a lot like a more ethnic OZRIC TENTACLES instrumental bubbling space rock. Fusing a multitude of styles like dub improvisations, cosmic jams, chinese bell music, reggae, ambient soundscaping, GONG like space rock; they may not be very original in their ideas but came up with a hell of a tripped-out album. A private and limited to 500 copies release. VASDEFERENS ORGANIZATION "Saturation" The alter ego of the texan based musician, composer and producer Matt Castille. "Soaturation" is a mysterious album of 8 strange soundscapes varying from weird ethnic evocations to totally out-of-your-mind guitar and sitar experiments. There are no song structures, which may confuse some, but massive layers of electronically processed sounds, making the album a definite delight for the more experienced fans of cosmic krautrock experiments. A beautiful, yet weird album. 7% SOLUTION "Gabriel's waltz" Second album for this american neopsychedelic band. On this one they restrict the long space rock guitar excursions of their debut, for a more depressive psychedelic sounds that takes an influence from bands like TELESCOPES and SLOWDIVE. Mellow vocals flowing into the atmosphere, various guitar distortions, resulting into a pulsating slow and depressive impression. Extremely well done. The CD version includes a bonus cover of CAN's "Oh yeah". DRYGIANNAKIS, Costis "Meta-optical landscapes" The brain behind Greece's excellent experimental band OPTICAL MUSIC in his first solo output. Central figure in this album is the avant garde moods of Mr Drygiannakis that merges different, even conflicting influences into a polyphony of sounds that construct two impressive pieces of contemporary musics.Totally unconventional, this is an attempt for a new language, neither classical, electronic, free jazz, ambient or in between. The tracks are completely undefinable, majesticaly complex, emotional and experimental at the same time. Something new and fresh and yet ancient in its experimentation. A very adventurous challenging album, full of surprises that explore the boundaries of musical language and still remains accessible. A feast to enjoy in all its twists and turns. Mega recommended to adventurous listeners! (url: http://www.anet.gr/edo/) BREITBAND "Fadu und der unterschied" BREITBAND are a new german band that explore the 70ies tradition of cosmic krautrock. They use a large variety of instruments (guitars, synthesizers, samplers, didgeridoo, flute, kalimba, ethnic percussion, old radio & TV sets ets.) on 2 long soundscapes. The effect is a total cosmic bliss of early TANGERINE DREAM, Klaus SCHULZE and LIGHTWAVE sounds played with a modern technical feel. A remarkable debut. HOOD "The cycle of days and seasons" "Post rock" is a definition that seems to me pointless. UK's HOOD sound no more than guitar driven floating psychedelic rock of the highest echelon, involving floating hazy journeys through obscure, moisten memories and that remote feeling of being alienated yet bound to nature and its forces. A modern sounding head album recommended for solitary repetitive listens. -- spacefreak From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Jul 11 07:14:02 1999 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:14:02 +0200 Subject: Off: Test Message-ID: Test From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sun Jul 11 09:20:26 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 14:20:26 +0100 Subject: OFF: Space Rock Reviews from Prog NG Message-ID: > UNLIMBO "Prahna fish" > This is for lovers of the good old OZRIC TENTACLES. Festival vibes, hippie > space rock with ethnic (middle eastern and arabic) jams, clouds of > didjeridoo and sitar, a good dose of cosmic dub and british folk jigs > consist one of the trippiest deleriums of 1998. Absolute space psychedelic > must. Their cassette album "Nine Lives" is a bit of a gem, as well. I reviewed for my zine last year, and can concur with the above. It's still available for ?3.99 from Music & Elsewhere, 6 Farm Court, Frimley, Surrey GU16 5TJ, UK (cheques to S J Taylor). Overseas write first. SAH NP Marxman - Time Capsule -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "There's no walls in music. It's like water; there's currents." --Corey Harris From iscladoc at IDIR.NET Sun Jul 11 12:20:55 1999 From: iscladoc at IDIR.NET (Allan T Grohe Jr) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 11:20:55 -0500 Subject: off: black box recorder? Message-ID: Hi all, I just discovered an English band called Black Box Recorder, via their (new?) lp _England Made Me_ (Jetset Records). On a listen and a half, they sound like a cross between Portishead and perhaps Beth Orton. Anyone have any details on them? Allan. ObHW: My remaster of _HotMG_ was stolen out of my bag by someone at Continental Airlines either in Philly or Cleveland (all HW fans travelling through those hubs beware!). Anyone have a line on another copy? Allan. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allan T. Grohe Jr. Visit the Dreaming City-- iscladoc at idir.net http://www.rpg.net/ehp/imrryr >From somewhere within him all the longing he had known, all the sadness and the grief and the loneliness, all his aspirations and dreams, his times of intense happiness, his loves and his hatreds, his affections and his dislikes, all were voices in the same music which issued from his throat, as if his whole being had been concentrated into this single song. It was a victory and a plea. It was a celebration and an agony. It was nothing more nor less then the song of a single, lonely individual in an uncertain world, the song of a troubled intellect and a generous heart. And most of all, it was a song of love, of yearning idealism and desperate sadness for the fate of the world. ---Michael Moorcock, "The Black Blade's Summoning" From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Jul 11 15:43:02 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:43:02 EDT Subject: HW/OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list 7/10/99 Message-ID: "SPACE DOES NOT CARE", 7/10/99, 88.3 KUCR, 7-9 pm PST every Sat. Magic Words for the night: "Dimensions Unmeasurable". Hour 1: The Oldies a. The Teutonic Cosmic Take-over: Ashra Tempel--Downtown/Powerdrive/Right-hand Lover/Velvet Genes Amon Duul II--Impovisations --Race from Here... (as titled on Purple Pyramid comp) --Sleepwalker's Timeless Bridge (the subtitle here refers to the fact that many of these songs begin w/conventional instruments and rock/blues structure and then become decimated by aggressiven synth/electronics) b. The Brit. Segment (not as fancy or conceptual, oh well...): Hawkwind--Earth Calling/Born to Go (Space Ritual) --Down Through the Night (Doremi) --The Phenomenon of Luminosity --Space is Deep (Doremi) Gong--Sprinkling of Clouds (Est Mort) Hour 2: The Newies 1.Spacious Mind--Interplanetary Love Machine (by far the longest track played on SDNC yet, at 25 min.) 2.The Brain--Dimensions Unmeasurable 3.Sundial--Plains of Nazca 4.Zero Gravity--We're Tumbling, End Over End Thanks, Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Jul 11 15:53:03 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 15:53:03 EDT Subject: OFF/HW: Terrastock Festival in London Message-ID: ---You Brits probably already knew about this one... (Same weekend as SD99!) Chuck Subject: Terrastock III (Bardo Pond, Bevis Frond, Hood, Tom Rapp, Spaceheads, The From: traffic99 at hotmail.com Date: Sat, 10 July 1999 03:30 PM EDT Message-id: <37879F68.7836881D at hotmail.com> (for more Terrastock info, check with the addresses below --- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS ADDRESS) TERRASTOCK III NEWS Terrastock III is scheduled to take place the weekend of August 27th, 28th and 29th 1999 at the ULU (the University of London), Malet Street, London WC1. The first home fixture for this prestigious event aims to build on the runaway success of the first two Terrastock festivals, which were held in Rhode Island and in San Francisco, USA during 1997 and '98 respectively. This upcoming three-day festival is conceived in a similar spirit of adventure and co-operation in order to celebrate the music championed by the long-running independent fanzine The Ptolemaic Terrascope. This time we are pleased to be associated with our good friends at Dreamy Records and Rocket Girl, and with the added bonus of this being the first Terrastock on home turf, it promises to be even bigger and if possible even better than in previous years. Terrastock is not an indie-rock A&R feeding frenzy. Bands and artists will be there at the personal invitation of the organisers because we love their music and they love the way we do things. It's simply about the music, and about the whole Terrastock spirit. If you were there at Terrastock I or II, you'll know what we mean. And if you weren't, you're in for a potentially "life-enhancing experience". Below you'll find a list of confirmed bands to date, including many who are travelling across vast oceans and continents under their own steam simply in order to attend. Please be aware that in order to stand a chance of breaking even a NO GUEST LIST, ABSOLUTELY NO EXCEPTIONS policy has been adopted for this festival. This includes all representatives of the press, TV and radio media, no matter who you might be. Persons buying tickets do so in the knowledge that they are investing in the whole Terrastock experience. For that reason, one- day passes are not available. Please bear in mind that we are aiming for a minimum of 15 separate performances at Terrastock on each of the 3 days, meaning dedicated festival attendees will be paying an average of just GB1.00 to watch each band. Weekend passes can be purchased for GB45.00 until July 31st, thereafter a still reasonable GB55.00 (subject to availability). Cheques or money orders should be made payable to "Rocket Girl" and sent in to the Rocket Girl address shown below. Credit card orders are also accepted. Orders must be post-marked by the cut-off date in order to get the early supporter rate. Please note that places are limited, and as both previous Terrastock festivals have sold out in a matter of days please do not delay making a reservation if you have any intention of attending. If you have questions regarding directions, travel information, sleeping arrangements etc., feel free to ask for information OR check our web site at http://www.terrascope.org To subscribe to the Terrascope's mailing list for updates and further ticket news, send a message to terraguests at terrascope.org and put SUBSCRIBE in the subject line. CONFIRMED BANDS SO FAR (in alphabeticalish order) Abunai! * Air Traffic Controllers The Alchemysts * Arco The Autumn Leaves Bablicon Bardo Pond * The Bevis Frond * Broken Dog Brother JT & Vibrolux * Damon and Naomi * Elf Power * The Freed Unit The Green Pajamas * The Green Ray Hood Kirk Lake The Lothars * The Lucky Bishops Mac Macleod Man The Music Tapes My Drug Hell Pat Orchard Piano Magic Pop Off Tuesday Tom Rapp * Spaceheads * Spacious Mind Warser Gate Windy and Carl * * Veterans of previous Terrastocks ticket info : http://www.rocketgirl.demon.co.uk/news/news.html Ptolemaic Terrascope http://www.terrascope.org From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Sun Jul 11 16:06:45 1999 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 21:06:45 +0100 Subject: Nik T on CD Message-ID: Just got back from the Guildford Green Ambient Picnic, and in the programme there is an advert for: Big Green Experience The musicians of the Big Green Gathering 1998 together in one exciting album. Including; Global, Nik Turners (sic) Fantastic allstars, and Praying for the Rain. CD 12.50 pounds from Green Futures 0181 941 6277 info at gfutures.demon.co.uk I have no more info than that, but will send off for it eventually. Mike w From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sun Jul 11 20:53:40 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 01:53:40 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind festival plug on R1 + Bike Show In-Reply-To: <378c489a.34547625@smtp.freeserve.net> Message-ID: At 19:12 09/07/99 GMT, andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK wrote: >>Didn't you hear the HW session on Mark Radcliffe's old evening show some 4 >>years ago? It was shortly before the Rock & Blues Festival in '95 and was >>the first opportunity most of (in the UK) had to hear Ron with the band. >> > >And when he had his first national radio show (Out On Blue Six *i >think*) on R1 he kicked off with Brainstorm, iirc. Might have been >MotU, but probably Brainstorm. And I'm 99% certain that he once said >that Stacia was his aunty. > >Oh and the info number for the bike show that HW are going to be >playing at is 01492 535626. > >andrew, well pissed off cos both these things are on my doorstep and >i'm too broke to go to either. Bah humbug and curse all this sun (nice >doley tan tho') That makes two of us: maybe we should get together and commiserate: I think we're "practically neighbours" - I'm in sunny Burton at the moment sponging off me dear old mum! ChrisW From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sun Jul 11 21:02:23 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 02:02:23 +0100 Subject: long or short? In-Reply-To: <37879AA8.182AEEA3@softhome.net> Message-ID: At 14:10 10/07/99 -0500, you wrote: >Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > >> On Wed, 30 Jun 1999 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: >> >> > i'm surely not a 'cult aficionado; didnt even know there WAS a version of >> > "reaper" minus the middle break. did that version get am radio airplay in >> > 1976? and why would such a thing still get aiplay? yuck! >> >> I think it's that because the cut version (which is dead boring >> and converts 'Reaper' nastily into that rather goth pop song it has always >> nearly been) is shorter, and it winds up on more compilations, and I think >> that's how most stations have any BOC these days... 'Reaper' is still the >> only BOC track I have ever heard on the radio. Yours, >> Jon > > "Burnin' for You" receives equal attention by classic rock/popmetallish >stations in MA at least. Jocks love it! Back in the heady days of my youth (c.1975) I heard all sorts of stuf from OYFOOYK on the radio - it was what got me into them in the first place - I think even John Peel used to play the odd track. ChrisW From capcloud at PALMNET.NET Sun Jul 11 23:33:15 1999 From: capcloud at PALMNET.NET (Captain Cloud) Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 23:33:15 -0400 Subject: OFF: Sundial Message-ID: >Was there a Sundial release that had an edited version of "Plains of Nazca" >(was it a single?); 'cause Chuck taped me a 3-4 minute track and now that I >have the album it see it's a few minutes longer. > >Chuck ...delurking... Hey Chuck, whatzup? The Sundial track you refer to is from the CD-single 'Expoding In Your Mind'. The tracklisting for this item is: 4:10 Exploding In Your Mind 3:36 Other Side 3:45 Plains of Nazca Hope that answers your question. I always think that rarer B-sides make good filler on tape trades, since the main albums by groups tend to be more commonly available. I just wandered out of lurk mode long enough to catch my namecheck, and thought I'd respond. I'm still on BOC-L (continuously since before 1995, like so many folks here), but I'm only reading about one or two digests a week. Sorry if I have missed any previous calls. One happy note. I made it to NYC for the PTree show. Man, Steven Wilson is a god! He is undoubtably the best psychedelic guitarist making the circuit these days IMHO. There have also been several PTree shows making the trade rounds. I saw a particularly well-done copy of the Phantasmagoria show on CDR, with great sound and very polished artwork. These things just go to show what fans can do, compared with the quality of a typical bootlegger. Too bad the band themselves haven't recorded any of the shows for release. I've already sent in my $$$ for Strange Daze 99 tickets, and encourage all of you to do the same. Definitely the best show going. Back to lurk mode. Chuck R., drop me a line and I'll help with whatever... Oh, and catch my cool URL below! -- Captain Cloud capcloud at palmnet.net capcloud at hawklord.com http://www.hawklord.com From Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Mon Jul 12 00:04:59 1999 From: Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Nik Lowenberg) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 00:04:59 -0400 Subject: HW: Books About Hawkwind Message-ID: I was wondering how many biographical books about Hawkwind have been written (no, Time of the Hawklords doesn't count!). I know there's Kris Tate's "This Is Hawkwind Do Not Panic", but what else is there? What is the book "Born to Go" by David Watson? Please, give me some info on what's out there. Thanks, -Nik From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jul 12 03:44:06 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 08:44:06 +0100 Subject: HW: Books About Hawkwind In-Reply-To: <19990712050708.GVGO4954@nl-hello> Message-ID: > I was wondering how many biographical books about Hawkwind have been > written (no, Time of the Hawklords doesn't count!). I know there's Kris > Tate's "This Is Hawkwind Do Not Panic", but what else is there? What is > the book "Born to Go" by David Watson? Please, give me some info > on what's > out there. > A good source for the early years (up to 1979) is Pete Frame's family tree (in _Complete Rock Family Trees_). Back from France - on the last morning I climbed a small mountain in the Pyrenees (Oylandaroy, 933m), and when I go to the top, firstly a hawk glided past no more than twenty metres away; and then a gentle, and welcome, wind started to blow... I felt like I was the master - of the universe... --Andy ObBook: Mick Farren - _Conspiracies, Lies and Hidden Agendas_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Mon Jul 12 07:00:21 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:00:21 +0100 Subject: OFF: BLACK BOX RECORDER Message-ID: > Hi all, > > I just discovered an English band called Black Box Recorder, via their > (new?) lp _England Made Me_ (Jetset Records). On a listen and a half, > they sound like a cross between Portishead and perhaps Beth Orton. > > Anyone have any details on them? > > Allan. Black Box Recorder was a side project/another ettempt at stardom put together by Luke Haines of the Auteurs. They only made the one album plus 2 singles (?) Child Psychology / Girl Singing In The Wreckage and England Made Me / Lord Lucan Is Missing both released in the UK in 1998 on Chrysalis. They were even less successful than his day job so BBR are over and he's back Autering with their new album How I Learned To Love The Bootboys SAH NP Styx - Cornerstone -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "There's no walls in music. It's like water; there's currents." --Corey Harris From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Mon Jul 12 09:13:00 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 14:13:00 +0100 Subject: MoFi BOC / T&M gold disc Message-ID: This came through the mail today from cduniverse.com. Nice package and a funky CD case. Now I'm by no means an audiophile, but this is definitely worth a purchase if you're a fan (some of you out there are :) Hard to say if any track stands out with considerable improvement, though like Andy says, there's much more to the keyboards on Teen Archer; also Red & the Black sounds even heavier, while most the first album has managed to climb out of the primordial ooze of hiss & fuzz. I'm sure further nuances will be rendered on my proper stereo at home. One final point to anybody that cares. Assuming the printed lyrics are pretty definitive, I notice some differences from what we have on the boc-l lyrics FAQ, e.g. the final line of Quicklime Girl for starters (All those years my .sig file was wrong!). Somebody might want to update the files at some point. Tim ObCD: what d'ya think! From mordru at FLITE.NET Mon Jul 12 09:36:05 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:36:05 -0400 Subject: MoFi BOC / T&M gold disc Message-ID: >One final point to anybody that cares. Assuming the printed lyrics are pretty >definitive, Why? Have they ever been right before? (well, I haven't seen Bolle's BOC fanclub lyric sheet, but I'd probably lend some credence to that over my green and white computer paper 50 cents printed lyrics...) =============== Andrew Apold Systems Administrator II Facilies Development & Operations Palm Beach County From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jul 12 10:11:50 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 15:11:50 +0100 Subject: HW: Eighties reissues Message-ID: Saw all these new reissues in the shop this lunchtime - nice-looking, new artwork, digipaks and stuff. New liner notes too, by Paul Huxley (?). No new tracks, unfortunately. Around ?8.99 each. --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Mon Jul 12 10:52:32 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 07:52:32 -0700 Subject: BOC: DFtR and Tidbits Message-ID: Been on vacation, playing catch up.. My comment was meant as a humorous remark in regards to my dislike of their music, not a personal attack on any of their band members. I hope the guy makes it through okay. You mention Garcia; as a closet deadhead for many years, I can definately relate. JB > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Bruce [mailto:kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET] > Sent: Friday, July 02, 1999 7:55 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: BOC: DFtR and Tidbits > > > Joseph Brooks wrote: > > > > One can only hope that this is not the case. Some things > are better left for > > dead. (Sorry, sometimes I just can't help myself.. : ) > > > > JB > > Their keyboard player has been bouncing in & out of rehabs > and detox ctr.s all > over the country - normally I'd consider it none of my > business, but after the > Garcia debacle its fair game. So even if you don't like the > music, put in a > good prayer to the guy Upstairs. It sucks when anybody goes > that way... > ChrisB. > > > > > Have Styx been exhumed? has anyone else noticed the "buzz" > > > going all around the > > > mass media about Mr Roboto? Its lyrics and music are > > > appearing everywhere in > > > commercials and the such ('domo arigato' was quipped in a new > > > hi-profile > > > commercial promoting e-business). It's also been a subject in > > > several recent > > > conversations i've had. > > > > > > The earliest reference to the song (immediately before this > > > surge began) that I > > > know of was in a May issue of The Onion, in an article > > > titled something like : > > > "Mr. Roboto (and some other song) Only Songs Not Yet Sampled > > > By Rap Artists " > > > ...Could this have actually started it? > > > > > > i bet that, ironically, someone's doing a remix of it right now! > From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Mon Jul 12 11:07:20 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 08:07:20 -0700 Subject: Upcoming Sony Compilation Message-ID: Why, why, why? Why would they want yet another comp featuring the "big three" don't they realize that their core audience is the die hard fan? Eric, if I could I'd like to slap some sense into you... Sheesh.... They're not going to win any new fans by running over the same dead ground and "going through the motions". People have heard these songs, they don't need a new compilation to be made aware of them. If they liked those songs, they'd be fans already. Why not show them what else you can do? Grrr.. this just irks me to death... JB > -----Original Message----- > From: John A. Swartz [mailto:jswartz at MITRE.ORG] > Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 5:47 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: BOC: Upcoming Sony Compilation > > > Someone mentioned the upcoming BOC compilation that should be out > soon (although I haven't yet seen it available for pre-order on > CDNOW.com), and the fact that Eric polled the AOL crowd about what > should be on it. Before you all get really excited about any BOC > rarities or cool tracks that the die-hard fans would want, I should > point out that the ground rules for that poll were that the fans were > asked what songs Joe Q. Public would most want to hear. In > other words, > "Don't Fear the Reaper", "Godzilla", and "Burnin' For You" > will probably > be the first 3 tracks. And, while I expect that this disc > will be good > (rumor has it that the tracks will be REMASTERED), don't > expect to hear > "Mistress of the Salmon Salt", "Monsters", "Nosferatu", > "Morning Final", > or any sort of rare demo or live tracks -- all of which, I suspect, > would be on a compilation that would be hand-picked by > die-hard fans of > BOC who already have at least 5 CDs in their collection with > "The Big 3" > on them. > > John > From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Mon Jul 12 11:11:23 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:11:23 +0100 Subject: MoFi BOC / T&M gold disc In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:36:05 EDT." <199907121336.JAA06560@issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us> Message-ID: > >One final point to anybody that cares. Assuming the printed lyrics are pretty > >definitive, > > Why? Have they ever been right before? > > (well, I haven't seen Bolle's BOC fanclub lyric sheet, but I'd probably > lend some credence to that over my green and white computer paper > 50 cents printed lyrics...) True, but since the boc-l lyrics partially (mostly?) came from Steve Swann and other old timers straining to decypher words from records around 91/92 (I just about remember that), I'd think the liner notes are more accurate. Tim ObLyricConfusion: Cup of Tea, Eh ? From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jul 12 11:21:29 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 16:21:29 +0100 Subject: MoFi BOC / T&M gold disc In-Reply-To: <199907121313.OAA06940@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: I just checked, and the insert lyrics match Bolle's lyric book precisely for QG (well, they actually correct a a missing apostrophe :). --Andy ObCD: Friends of Dean Martinez - _Atardecer_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From adrian.brevard at EDS.COM Mon Jul 12 12:21:41 1999 From: adrian.brevard at EDS.COM (Brevard, Adrian R) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:21:41 -0400 Subject: BOC: Wings of Mercury / Tidbits Message-ID: >Amen! Considering the garbage they put on that album, how could they NOT have included WoM? I heard it once too, on the infamous CN tour, which, sadly, saw BOC embarking on their current club-band incarnation. How appropriate that CN's appearance should go hand in hand with the band's descent from Valhalla...WoM was a kick-ass tune live. Too bad they don't dust it off and play it live every once in a while, esp. at the 'biker fests' that they play at occasionally. BTW, speaking of BOC's bike tunes, has anyone heard them play Feel the Thunder live? I know I heard it at least once, on the RbN tour...Song ruled live! Foggy but...BOC doing WoM is a cover tune right? If they perform it publicly they must pay someone, true? Shame, I heard this from one of those live boots and its a fabulous tune that sounds good on them. =============================== Morte Meltzer/Pearlman stuff - >I'm not sure I'd describe SP and RM as fringe dwellers. Sorry...did not mean to say they were always fringe players; they are a very real part of BOC's history. But today? Ya, definitely on the fringe. >AB, I think they are bitter because they realize the greatness that they were associated with, and they also realize that they couldn't sustain it, and that the band, for whatever reasons, decided to do things on their own. They know they were part of a truly great band, but that, through their own failings, allowed it to slip through their fingers. At one point, they were at the top of the heavy music heap, now: where are they now! Again, Al's insight would tell us volumes... I can buy that but its been soooooooo long since the word "greatness" was associated with this band...P & M, get on with your lives...you've been in mourning far longer than normal. I know its a sad situation (depends on your perspective I guess) but Al and Joe have moved on nicely...Buck, Alan and Eric have moved on... Why can't these guys? Who's next to air some historical dirty laundry or current resentment for things past, Les Braunstein (sp?) Dude, ya know I'm just moaning...its a really tired subject bottom line. L8er Ghost in the Ruins NP - Galactic Cowboys - Space in Your Face From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Mon Jul 12 12:27:19 1999 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (Michael R Godwin) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 17:27:19 +0100 Subject: BOC: New England and Compilation In-Reply-To: <13D65DB44C2@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: > From: Andrew Gilham > a live SttS on the b-side > > of the We Gotta Get Out Of This place 7" off SEE... On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Ted Jackson jr. s2h2 wrote: > Damn! How'd I miss that one? Is it a good rendition? It's OK - sounds like an outtake from the Extraterrestrial Live album. Production by George Geranious IIRC. - Mike Godwin From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Jul 12 13:16:07 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:16:07 EDT Subject: BOC: Wings of Mercury / Tidbits In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: "Brevard, Adrian R" > > Foggy but...BOC doing WoM is a cover tune right? If they perform it > publicly they must pay someone, true? Shame, I heard this from one of those > live boots and its a fabulous tune that sounds good on them. > I'm not completely sure about this, but if they're playing the song in a bar, then the bar pays ASCAP and/or BMI a monthly fee for the right to have copyrighted material performed in their joint, whether it's a band playing cover tunes, or simply the jukebox blasting. It wouldn't matter to the band at all... > I know its a sad situation (depends on your perspective I guess) but Al and > Joe have moved on nicely...Buck, Alan and Eric have moved on... Why can't > these guys? Who's next to air some historical dirty laundry or current > resentment for things past, Les Braunstein (sp?) But all the BOC members and ex-members can still get up on stage and let the music do the proverbial talkin,' wheras SP and RM...well they never were rock stars, and never will be. Guess all that's left to 'em is sour grapes... theo From StevenTice at AOL.COM Mon Jul 12 13:31:28 1999 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 13:31:28 EDT Subject: MoFi BOC / T&M gold disc Message-ID: In a message dated 7/12/99 11:22:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: << I just checked, and the insert lyrics match Bolle's lyric book precisely for QG (well, they actually correct a a missing apostrophe :). --Andy >> Is that the current version of the lyric book? I only have the first version, although I've sent Bolle lots of corrections to that which he was evaluating and including in later versions of the book. Apparently the original lyrics sheet you could obtain from BOC had the line "The harvester lives, with arms that are bent," while Bolle has "The harvester lifts his arms to the rain"...which version is current? I don't have the gold disc yet, it'll be interesting to see those lyrics... I wonder if they've fixed the "mush you husky" vs. "my two huskies" thing yet... Steven Tice From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jul 12 14:35:56 1999 From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:35:56 +0100 Subject: HW: Books about Hawkwind Message-ID: Hi folks There have been a number of books about Hawkwind. The first was the 'Hawkwind lyric book' which was first available on the 1982 UK tour, then by mail order. Next came Kris Tait's book 'This Is Hawkwind Do Not Panic' early in 1984. Both these books were reprinted a number of times. Brian Tawn and Gigi Marioni put together 'The Never Ending Sory Of The Psychedelic Warlords' in 1991. When Griffin released the Warrior album in 1993, the box came with 'The Illustrated Collectors Guide To Hawkwind' by Rob Godwin. Two years later the 'Born To Go: Hawkwind in the Seventies' book by David Watson was privately printed and sold by mail order. There was around 300 copies done, all of which were sold and as far as i know, there are no plans to reprint. There have also been a few publications in book form, again all were privately printed. These include 'The Hawkwind Codex' in 1993 by Mike Holmes and Jill Strobridge, 'Hawkwind Decoded' by John MacElhone in 1996 and also 2 from myself, namely 'Roadhawks Live 1969-95' in 1995 and the 'Hawkwind and Related Worldwide Discography' in 1996. With any luck, there will soon be the ultimate book called 'The Hawkwind Chronicles', check out the website below. Hope this is of use All the best Age Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jul 12 14:01:52 1999 From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:01:52 +0100 Subject: Badam Festival: in search of lift Message-ID: Hello folks Is there anyone in the London area driving up to the Buxton Festival late July who has a spare place and wouldn't mind giving me a lift? In Search Of Lift Age Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jul 12 14:47:57 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:47:57 +0100 Subject: MoFi BOC / T&M gold disc In-Reply-To: <6c23d29a.24bb8070@aol.com> Message-ID: I'm not sure which edition it is of the lyric book, but my copy has "arms to the rain" etc. However it still insists on two huskies, which (I'd say!) is obviously wrong... and yes, the lyric insert to the new CD has "mush you huskies"! --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Steven Tice > Sent: 12 July 1999 18:31 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: MoFi BOC / T&M gold disc > > > In a message dated 7/12/99 11:22:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: > > << I just checked, and the insert lyrics match Bolle's lyric book > precisely > for > QG (well, they actually correct a a missing apostrophe :). > > --Andy >> > > Is that the current version of the lyric book? I only have the first > version, although I've sent Bolle lots of corrections to that which he was > evaluating and including in later versions of the book. Apparently the > original lyrics sheet you could obtain from BOC had the line "The > harvester > lives, with arms that are bent," while Bolle has "The harvester lifts his > arms to the rain"...which version is current? I don't have the gold disc > yet, it'll be interesting to see those lyrics... I wonder if > they've fixed > the "mush you husky" vs. "my two huskies" thing yet... > > Steven Tice > From adrian.brevard at EDS.COM Tue Jul 13 09:33:22 1999 From: adrian.brevard at EDS.COM (Brevard, Adrian R) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:33:22 -0400 Subject: BOC: Wings of Mercury / Tidbits Message-ID: I know its a sad situation (depends on your perspective I guess) but Al and > Joe have moved on nicely...Buck, Alan and Eric have moved on... Why can't > these guys? Who's next to air some historical dirty laundry or current > resentment for things past, Les Braunstein (sp?) >But all the BOC members and ex-members can still get up on stage and let the music do the proverbial talkin,' wheras SP and RM...well they never were rock stars, and never will be. Guess all that's left to 'em is sour grapes... Perhaps Dick and Sandy can: 1) Go to a pawn shop and buy an axe 2) Take a few lessons 3) Attempt to fulfill the Marshall Plan Somebody will have to change their name to Johnny... L8er Ghost in the Ruins NP - Savatage - Edge of Thorns From adrian.brevard at EDS.COM Tue Jul 13 09:37:39 1999 From: adrian.brevard at EDS.COM (Brevard, Adrian R) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 09:37:39 -0400 Subject: BOC: New Sony Comp. Message-ID: JB - Ya it seems pointless and each of us would prefer something new but thats what CMC is all about. Da Boys may have a follow up to HF on CMC in Y2K. As for the Sony Comp looks like the band has some say so on content and they should be re-mastered versions. Provided the setlist is good and they do a credible job this could be the best Sony Comp since WotT. Please don't start on the ommissions WotT is a decent package. Now Eric asked the folks on AOL what they thought...can we add our own two-cents for the hell of it? What 16 songs would this list pick I wonder? I'll throw mine out later today... L8er Ghost in the Ruins From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jul 13 12:04:47 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:04:47 +0100 Subject: BOC: New Sony Comp. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Brevard, Adrian R wrote: > Now Eric asked the folks on AOL what they thought...can we add our own > two-cents for the hell of it? > > What 16 songs would this list pick I wonder? > > I'll throw mine out later today... Funny, I was thinking that only the other day and meaning to post the results. Didn't work out what order I'd put them in, but the selection (I allowed myself twenty-four, because you can get twelve BOC songs on a CD easily, can't you?) went: (BOC) Stairway to the Stars, Cities on Flame (T&M) The Red and the Black (ST) Dominance & Submission, Flaming Telepaths (OYFoOYK) ME262, 7 Screamin' Diz-busters (AoF) (Don't Fear) The Reaper, Tattoo Vampire (S) Golden Age of Leather (SEE) ETI, Astronomy, Godzilla (M) The Vigil (CE) Black Blade, Lips in the Hills (FoUO) Burning For You (ETL) Dr. Music, Hot Rails To Hell, Veteran of the Psychic Wars (RBN) Take Me Away (CN) Beat 'Em Up (I) I Am The One You Warned Me Of (BC) The Horsemen Arrive If I had to reduce it to sixteen, well, I'd remove BEU, THA, GAoL, Dr.M, BFY, TMA (it's getting hard now), BB and FT I think. But I'd fight to keep the last three... Yours, Jon From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Tue Jul 13 12:03:29 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:03:29 +0100 Subject: BOC: In Thee Lyrics Message-ID: I'm sure this has been hashed over before, but looking at the In Thee lyrics on Heaven Forbid, who is Jim ?? "Jim says some destinies should not be delivered" Is this some slight Star Trek reference !? Tim From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jul 13 12:12:46 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:12:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Books About Hawkwind In-Reply-To: Nik Lowenberg's message of Mon, 12 Jul 1999 00:04:59 -0400 Message-ID: Nik Lowenberg writes: > I was wondering how many biographical books about Hawkwind have been > written (no, Time of the Hawklords doesn't count!). I know there's Kris > Tate's "This Is Hawkwind Do Not Panic", but what else is there? What is > the book "Born to Go" by David Watson? Please, give me some info on what's > out there. There is a lot, but scattered, Hawkwind biography around. Of the two books you mention above Kris Tait's is the authorised biog. Dave Watson's is a Hawfan's view of the albums along with a historical and social background as well as some band history. It is extremely readable and well worth trying to find - unfortunately I know that he was only printing them in small batches on demand and had planned to stop doing so by the end of last year so I don't think any have been issued recently. Both books however stop around the early 1980s and there are so far no biographical books on modern Hawkwind although there are rumours that something is in progress (see Adrian's mail for confirmation of this!). The Acid Daze booklet gives a track by track background cum history and there are several interviews in the Record Collector mags as well as the interviews on http://www.hawkwind.com which are worth reading. Incidentally, this website appears to have recently come back to life again and was updated as recently as 28 June 1999. Also, as someone mentioned the Pete Frame family tree was brought up to the mid-1980s or so. There's plenty around but you need to go looking for it. It'll be good if someone has a chance to pull everything together! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jul 13 12:13:28 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:13:28 +0100 Subject: BOC: Faves (Was: New to the List) In-Reply-To: <19990701115445.11120.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Jul 1999, Horse Whisperer wrote: > Apart from _Imaginos_,_OYFOOYK_,_ETL_&_Live 1976_, there are only two (on > average) songs on any BOC LP after the 1st three, which are works of > complete genius (I even like the production). > _Agents of Fortune_ > This Ain't the Summer, Reaper, ETI > _Cultosaurus Erectus_ > Godzilla, Are You Ready to Rock > > _Mirrors_, though, AND _Spectres_ are absolutely HORRIBLE. And I'll fight > anyone over this!! No problems over _Spectres_, though I can't help noticing you name two of its songs as redeeming virtues for CE above... I rate CE very highly though, I don't think there's a single bad song on there (well, apart from `The Marshall Plan', but even that's amusing. And _Mirrors_ is saved by `The Vigil'. But the first three albums are untouchable. And SEE is quite nice too... Yours, Jon From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Tue Jul 13 12:16:22 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 17:16:22 +0100 Subject: OFF: PROG SUPERGROUP(?)ALERT Message-ID: Pete Trewavas (Marillion) has just recently returned from Millbrook studios in upstate New York, where he was working with Mike Portnoy (Dream Theatre), Neal Morse (Spock's Beard) and Roine Stolt (Flower Kings) on a 'prog supergroup' of sorts. Pete had a lot of fun and said he had the opportunity to "do things that we wouldn't normally do in our respective bands" and that he enjoyed "playing like Paul McCartney all week!" -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "There's no walls in music. It's like water; there's currents." --Corey Harris From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Tue Jul 13 12:22:58 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:22:58 -0400 Subject: BOC: In Thee Lyrics Message-ID: I forget who originally enlightened us, but it is a quote from.. Crap, I forget his last name. The movie "Basketball Diaries" was about him... -----Original Message----- From: bart To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 12:37 PM Subject: BOC: In Thee Lyrics >I'm sure this has been hashed over before, but looking at the In Thee lyrics >on Heaven Forbid, who is Jim ?? > >"Jim says some destinies should not be delivered" > >Is this some slight Star Trek reference !? > > >Tim From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Tue Jul 13 08:46:49 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 12:46:49 +0000 Subject: HW: Books About Hawkwind Message-ID: Hi Folks, The Kadu Flyer is also working on a book based on an interview questionnaire we have sent the band; we're still awaiting a reply but that is our intention... J Strobridge wrote: > > Nik Lowenberg writes: > > > I was wondering how many biographical books about Hawkwind have been > > written (no, Time of the Hawklords doesn't count!). I know there's Kris > > Tate's "This Is Hawkwind Do Not Panic", but what else is there? What is > > the book "Born to Go" by David Watson? Please, give me some info on what's > > out there. > > There is a lot, but scattered, Hawkwind biography around. Of the > two books you mention above Kris Tait's is the authorised biog. Dave > Watson's is a Hawfan's view of the albums along with a historical and > social background as well as some band history. It is extremely > readable and well worth trying to find - unfortunately I know that he > was only printing them in small batches on demand and had planned to > stop doing so by the end of last year so I don't think any have been > issued recently. > > Both books however stop around the early 1980s and there are so far > no biographical books on modern Hawkwind although there are rumours that > something is in progress (see Adrian's mail for confirmation of this!). > > The Acid Daze booklet gives a track by track background cum history > and there are several interviews in the Record Collector mags as well > as the interviews on http://www.hawkwind.com which are worth reading. > Incidentally, this website appears to have recently come back to life > again and was updated as recently as 28 June 1999. Also, as someone > mentioned the Pete Frame family tree was brought up to the mid-1980s > or so. > > There's plenty around but you need to go looking for it. It'll be good > if someone has a chance to pull everything together! > > jill > > =========================================================================== > J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk > ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 3117 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jul 13 13:07:22 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:07:22 EDT Subject: BOC: In Thee Lyrics In-Reply-To: <001301becd4b$fdcf11c0$a6a58fcc@pxr6> Message-ID: > From: Sprawl > I forget who originally enlightened us, but it is a quote from.. > Crap, I forget his last name. The movie "Basketball Diaries" was about > him... > > > > > >I'm sure this has been hashed over before, but looking at the In Thee > lyrics > >on Heaven Forbid, who is Jim ?? > > > >"Jim says some destinies should not be delivered" > > > >Is this some slight Star Trek reference !? > > I never knew, but I thought maybe it was a reference to Jim Caroll, the poet and sometimes BOC collaborator. Didn't he write something on CN, either Perfect Water or Madness... Anyone ever hear any of JC's stuff? Saw him live a long time ago, and he played the unforgettable 'People Who Died." That song alone would be worth picking up one of his discs... theo From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Jul 13 13:09:01 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:09:01 -0400 Subject: BOC: In Thee Lyrics Message-ID: >I'm sure this has been hashed over before, but looking at the In Thee lyrics >on Heaven Forbid, who is Jim ?? > >"Jim says some destinies should not be delivered" > >Is this some slight Star Trek reference !? It's in the FAQ.... I think it was Jim Carroll, or something like that, I think it was a friend of Allen's... lemme check... ah, here it is. From the FAQ: ? Allen wrote several songs with Jim Carroll (who also co-wrote ?"Perfect Water" on *Club Ninja*). One of them, "Day and Night", ?appears on Carroll's first album, *Catholic Boy*. Allen plays ?keyboards on this track, as well as on the song "I Want The Angel". ?Another Lanier/Carroll collaboration, "Dance the Night Away" ?(originally intended for *Agents Of Fortune*, but was rejected), ?appears on Carroll's, *I Write Your Name*. Allen is also featured on ?keyboards throughout on Carroll's *Dry Dreams* album. Allen's ?contributions on guitar and/or keyboards can also be found on some of ?Patti Smith's albums (including her *Easter* album on the track "Space ?Monkey"; and her 1975 *Horses* album on the tracks "Kimberly" and ?"Elegie", which Allen also co-wrote), on John Cale's album, *Music For ?a New Society*, and on Amy Kanter's 1982 release, *Other Girl*. Allen ?was used often by Sandy Pearlman as a studio musician in the 70's, ?playing on albums by the Dictators, Shakin' Street, Pavlov's Dog, and ?The Clash -- not all of these appearances are credited, or are credited ?to the name "Allen Glover". In addition, Jim Carroll has a spoken-word ?performance ("Nightclubbing") on a Sony Compilation album titled *Home ?Alive*, in which Allen provides guitar accompaniment. ? The line "Jim says some destinies should not be delivered", in the ?song "In Thee" refers to Jim Carroll. As previously mentioned, Jim ?Carroll and Allen Lanier collaborated on several songs, including the ?song "Day And Night", which appeared on Carroll's *Catholic Boy* album. ?The song contains the line "Some destinies, they should not be ?delivered". "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold Systems Administrator From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Tue Jul 13 13:43:24 1999 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (BL Young) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 10:43:24 -0700 Subject: HW: found a few HW cds Message-ID: I can recommend a guy (Geff Ratcheson) who runs a small business named "Dandelion Records" who's just unearthed a few HW cds. Here's his list: > Hawkwind - I'm not very familiar with this band, so the information on > the following 17 titles will be sketchy. We have 1-3 of each title. > > Hawkwind - Friends & Relations the Rarities (sealed) - 1995 15 track cd. > Griffin 05232. $10.50 > > Hawkwind - Independent days 1&2 (sealed) - 1981-1984 recordings. The > jewel box is cracked on one of these. Griffin 04972. $10.50 > > Hawkwind - It Is The Business of The Future to Be Dangerous (sealed) - > 12 tracks. Copywrite date is 1994. Griffin 161. $10.50 > > Hawkwind - Live (sealed) - 7 songs. The copywrite date is 1994. Griffin > 229. $10.50 > > Hawkwind - Live The Business Trip (sealed) - 15 tracks. 1994 copywrite > date. Griffin 280. $10.50 > > Hawkwind - In The Beginning/Masters Of The Universe (sealed UK issue) - > 8 tracks. 1994 copywrite. Magnum UK 028. $11.50 > > Hawkwind - The Xeon Codex (sealed UK issue) - 10 tracks from 1988. > Castle UK 281. $10.50 > > Hawkwind - Friends & Relations best Of (sealed) - 16 tracks. The > original issue was 1993. Griffin 05352. $10.50 > > Hawkwind - Out & Intake - 1992. 13 tracks. Griffin 03922. $10.50 > > Hawkwind - Church Of (sealed) - 15 songs. 1982. Griffin 0932. $10.50 > > Hawkwind - Spirit Of The Age (remixes) - 4 remixes. 1995. Griffin 03432. > $10.50 > > Hawkwind - Palace Springs (Sealed; may be UK issue - I'm not sure) - > 1991. 8 songs. Roadracer UK?? 9303. $10.50 > > Hawkwind - The Chronicle Of The Black Sword (sealed) - 14 songs, 1985. > Griffin 01422. $10.50 > > Hawkwind - Zones (sealed) - 10 tracks. 1983. Griffin 164. $10.50 > > Hawkwind - Do Not Panic (sealed) - 1984. 9 songs. Griffin 163. $10.50. > > Hawkwind - Live Chronicles (sealed 2 cd set) - this features The saga > of Elric Of Melnibone. It includes a collector's reprint of Michael > Noorcock's the dreaming city, + 4 unreleased tracks. Griffin 0136. > $17.99 > > Hawkwind - California Brainstorm (sealed UK Issue) - This is listed as > "Limited edition boxset with Illustrated book Guide to Hawkwind by > Robert Godwin." I don't know if there's a cd in here also, or if it's > just a book. If you're familiar with this set, please let me know! > Pinnacle 015071001141. $13.99 > I've done business with him about 4 or 5 times, so I can vouch for his service. He's always shipped fast up to me here in Canada, anyways. You can contact him off-list at geffr at emeraldnet.net I've got all these already, but maybe somebody else would need them. Bryan PS: I still need the HW97 cd, but I don't know how I would get the passport anymore. Is anybody set up in the UK that could help out? (Maybe even take my visa number, get my passport for me cheaper over there, and then buy the cd for me?) Thanks! -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Bryan Young CANADA blyoung AT bigfoot DOT com ----------------------------------------------------------- http://www.geocities.com/Area51/7118 SF Reading Club http://www.geocities.com/Area51/6568 Hawkwind ----------------------------------------------------------- "20 minutes goes by pretty fast when you're on a breakaway" From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Jul 13 13:45:09 1999 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 13:45:09 -0400 Subject: HW: found a few HW cds In-Reply-To: <378B7ABC.60F0@bigfoot.com> from "BL Young" at Jul 13, 99 10:43:24 am Message-ID: > > Hawkwind - The Xeon Codex (sealed UK issue) - 10 tracks from 1988. > > Castle UK 281. $10.50 So *that's* where Intel got the name for their high-end CPU line :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / I'm going to change it, but it's going to take some time. - Linus Torvalds, on Windows's market leadership From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Tue Jul 13 14:39:48 1999 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 20:39:48 +0200 Subject: OFF: Dr Hasbeen Message-ID: Greetings from a sunny Sundsvall! News from the spacerock heaven says it?s a Dr Hasbeen / Spacehead evening at The Flowerpot in Derby, on the 23rd (Friday night). tickets are 2.50UK advance and 3.00UK on the night. I?m shure it?ll be a great evening with ultimate spacerock from two great acts, especially the "Doctors". They?re now a four piece with the new drummer Stuart Dills and if I?m not mistaken it?s his debut gig. Me and my wife saw them in April and that was one of the best moment in my life. Let?s hope we will get the chance to see them again some time. Cheers Hawkswede -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From StevenTice at AOL.COM Tue Jul 13 14:45:08 1999 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 14:45:08 EDT Subject: BOC: Meltzer/Pearlman Message-ID: In a message dated 7/13/99 9:34:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, adrian.brevard at EDS.COM writes: << Perhaps Dick and Sandy can: 1) Go to a pawn shop and buy an axe 2) Take a few lessons 3) Attempt to fulfill the Marshall Plan Somebody will have to change their name to Johnny... >> According to an article in a 1981 issue of Creem: Wrestling critic and BOC lyricist R. Meltzer was the lead singer for a brief period in 1968. Says Buck: "We were sandwiched between James Cotton and Richie Havens at the Cafe a Go Go and Meltzer sang the blues. To a packed house of college kids, the band did like a frenetic and desperate jam while R. took off his shirt and ran back and forth across the stage yelling 'Piss!' into the microphone. We knew then we needed a real lead singer." SET From StevenTice at AOL.COM Tue Jul 13 15:30:05 1999 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 15:30:05 EDT Subject: BOC: In Thee Lyrics Message-ID: In a message dated 7/13/99 1:10:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mordru at FLITE.NET writes: << The line "Jim says some destinies should not be delivered", in the ?song "In Thee" refers to Jim Carroll. As previously mentioned, Jim ?Carroll and Allen Lanier collaborated on several songs, >> How ironic that Carroll's only credited BOC song appears on the only BOC album that Allen Lanier is not on! SET From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jul 13 21:51:52 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 01:51:52 GMT Subject: Hawkwind festival plug on R1 + Bike Show In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990712015340.007f6e60@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: > >That makes two of us: maybe we should get together and commiserate: I think >we're "practically neighbours" - I'm in sunny Burton at the moment sponging >off me dear old mum! > >ChrisW That sounds like a very good idea nicely timed to coincide with the Dr Hasbeen gig i've just seen advertised on the list. Any others in the area? andrew From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jul 13 22:21:04 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 03:21:04 +0100 Subject: BOC: In Thee Lyrics In-Reply-To: <9c04062.24bcedbd@aol.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Steven Tice wrote: > << The line "Jim says some destinies should not be delivered", in the > ?song "In Thee" refers to Jim Carroll. As previously mentioned, Jim > ?Carroll and Allen Lanier collaborated on several songs, >> > > How ironic that Carroll's only credited BOC song appears on the only BOC > album that Allen Lanier is not on! Actually, can somebody furnish me with writing credits for CN? My tape copy is devoid of them. Cheers, yours, Jon From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jul 14 00:01:54 1999 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:01:54 -0400 Subject: OFF: Way off, Richard Meltzer Message-ID: >> From: theo: >only to overshadow subsequent work? So, is the greatness of the >first 3 due to RM/SP's participation, or simply the band was at a >creative peak? We need to call upon Al to offer an opinion here... I posted my journal at one time on the tBS aol board regarding the creation of ST (my journals for the first two albums were lost) and it was surprising to me how much interaction there was in the creation of the arrangements. Nearly everyone (in the band PLUS Sandy and Murray, but not Meltzer) contributed to the arrangements of the most popular tunes - Dominance, ME262, Telepaths, Subhuman. There was much less of that as time went on. >their fingers. At one point, they were at the top of the heavy music >heap, now: where are they now! Again, Al's insight would tell us >volumes... All the people in the band (including Joe and me) have an outlet for their creativity. Pearlman does not. Meltzer does, however, with poetry redings, books and CDs, so I think he's just being critical because that's his nature. His writing has always been dense but seems to be getting less so. I really liked his book, The Night (Alone) - read it twice. His choice of language is more important than the content. He comes from the post-modernist school that takes as a given that all writing is lies. Only through the broad horizon and unconscious can you discover bits of truth. From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Jul 14 00:23:13 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 00:23:13 -0400 Subject: BOC: In Thee Lyrics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 03:21 AM 7/14/1999 +0100, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Steven Tice wrote: > >> << The line "Jim says some destinies should not be delivered", in the >> ?song "In Thee" refers to Jim Carroll. As previously mentioned, Jim >> ?Carroll and Allen Lanier collaborated on several songs, >> >> >> How ironic that Carroll's only credited BOC song appears on the only BOC >> album that Allen Lanier is not on! > > Actually, can somebody furnish me with writing credits for CN? My >tape copy is devoid of them. Cheers, yours, That is also in the FAQ. Please, please do yourself a favor and get (and read) the FAQ. It makes for a good read, too. I keep a printed copy next to my computer with my goldmine article... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Wed Jul 14 03:46:57 1999 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 09:46:57 +0200 Subject: HW: Cornwall gig, 11.08.99 ???? Message-ID: Hello I am still waiting for some more information about the Cornwall gig in August. But nothing seems to happen. Me and some friends from Germany (and I know that some other fans from outside the UK too) want to go to this gig, but we have no chance to make serious plans because we have absolutely no informations. What we need to know is: - Where exactely will this gig be performed ? - At which time will this gig be performed ? - Are there any campgrounds / hotels nearby ? - Is this gig 100% confirmed ? We do not want to travel hundreds of miles and finding an empty stage (or no stage) Dave and Kris, please help us (especially the fans from outside the UK) with some more informations!!!! We really want to go to this gig but have to arrange our trip (by plane/ferry /train/car) cheers Bernhard From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Wed Jul 14 05:26:36 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Gekke Henkie) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:26:36 +0200 Subject: off: the gathering u.s. tourdates Message-ID: Hi all, I just picked this up. The Gathering is an interestingband. They play a form of spacemusic. If the come nearby go see them. The Gathering are finally comes to the States!!! Here are the latest details on the tour. 19/07 The Ventura Theatre - Ventura, CA [ us ] 20/07 Key Club - Hollywood (west), CA [ us ] 21/07 Maritime Hall - San Francisco, CA [ us ] 25/07 House of Blues - Chicago, IL [ us ] 26/07 Ground Zero - Minneapolis, MN [ us ] 27/07 Sub Culture - Grand Rapids, MI [ us ] 28/07 Sudsy Malones - Cincinatti, OH [ us ] 29/07 Shelter - Detroit, MI [ us ] 30/07 Metalfest [ at the Eagle Ballroom ] - Milwaukee, WI [ us ] 31/07 Flying Machine - Cleveland, OH [ us ] 01/08 Al Rosa Villa - Columbus, OH [ us ] 02/08 Phantasmagoria - Wheaton, MD [ us ] 03/08 Trocadero - Philadelphia, PA [ us ] 04/08 Coney Island High - New York City, NY [ us ] 06/08 Eurorock Festival - Harmond [ bel ] 07/08 Wacken Open Air - Wacken [ ger ] --BArt From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jul 14 05:37:19 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:37:19 +0100 Subject: OFF: the gathering u.s. tourdates In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Saw this lot in London earlier this year with Tim. We both made the mistake of not wearing black and thus stood out like a sore thumb. The band? They were OK. However we were more interested in a pair of Spanish girls in the crowd :) --Andy ObGig: godspeed you black emperor! Union Chapel tomorrow and extra date Friday! mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Gekke Henkie > Sent: 14 July 1999 10:27 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: off: the gathering u.s. tourdates > > > Hi all, > > I just picked this up. > The Gathering is an interestingband. They play a form of > spacemusic. If the come nearby go see them. > > The Gathering are finally comes to the States!!! > Here are the latest details on the tour. > > 19/07 The Ventura Theatre - Ventura, CA [ us ] > 20/07 Key Club - Hollywood (west), CA [ us ] > 21/07 Maritime Hall - San Francisco, CA [ us ] > 25/07 House of Blues - Chicago, IL [ us ] > 26/07 Ground Zero - Minneapolis, MN [ us ] > 27/07 Sub Culture - Grand Rapids, MI [ us ] > 28/07 Sudsy Malones - Cincinatti, OH [ us ] > 29/07 Shelter - Detroit, MI [ us ] > 30/07 Metalfest [ at the Eagle Ballroom ] - Milwaukee, WI [ us ] > 31/07 Flying Machine - Cleveland, OH [ us ] > 01/08 Al Rosa Villa - Columbus, OH [ us ] > 02/08 Phantasmagoria - Wheaton, MD [ us ] > 03/08 Trocadero - Philadelphia, PA [ us ] > 04/08 Coney Island High - New York City, NY [ us ] > > 06/08 Eurorock Festival - Harmond [ bel ] > 07/08 Wacken Open Air - Wacken [ ger ] > > > --BArt > From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Wed Jul 14 01:57:41 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 05:57:41 +0000 Subject: BOC: In Thee Lyrics Message-ID: > Anyone ever hear any of JC's stuff? Saw him live a long time ago, > and he played the unforgettable 'People Who Died." That song alone > would be worth picking up one of his discs... > > theo "People Who Died" can be found on Jim Carroll's "Catholic Boy" album, which also includes a song collaboration and an appearance (On keys, I think) by Alan. Not on that particular song, though. That's pretty much all I know about Jim Carroll. Started watching "Basketball Diaries" once, but I really didn't like it. -- Nick From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 14 08:06:43 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:06:43 +0100 Subject: Nik T on CD In-Reply-To: M S Wright's message of Sun, 11 Jul 1999 21:06:45 +0100 Message-ID: M S Wright writes: > Just got back from the Guildford Green Ambient Picnic, and in the > programme there is an advert for: > > Big Green Experience > The musicians of the Big Green Gathering 1998 together in one exciting > album. Including; Global, Nik Turners (sic) Fantastic allstars, and > Praying for the Rain. > CD 12.50 pounds from Green Futures 0181 941 6277 > info at gfutures.demon.co.uk Global are a bloody good band. I've seen 'em quite a few times at Glasters and was disappointed they weren't there this year. FoFP From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jul 14 08:10:04 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 08:10:04 EDT Subject: off: HW: BADAM - Transatlantic gigging Message-ID: In a message dated 7/8/99 9:16:22 PM, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: < Just before Larry left there was rumor of a THIRD guitarist for DasLud from > him, so things are going to be very interesting in the next month or so while > they woodshed out a set for the show (they have a 90 minute set to fill...). > Ian has been hard at work rebuilding a guitar especially for the event, and > Ive been told that Ron (bass and/or guitar) is very excited about playing the > fest as well. So Carl will be in demand as soon as he surfaces on this side of > the pond... Dammit, you mean they're going to _rehearse_? They're selling out! :-) Yours, Jon ========================= >> "woodshed out a set for the show" translates into "groping with increasing frustration in search of location or two where we (or some combination thereof) can assemble and hack away for a bit prior to the festival"... i would prefer us to not go into SD "stone cold", as it were, but if that's what we end up doing...hey, just another variable tossed into our midst. like, y'know? "rehearse" my buttocks ^_~ being as i'm here i must be back "<>" From SHLL at NOVO.DK Wed Jul 14 08:53:58 1999 From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:53:58 +0200 Subject: the gathering u.s. tourdates Message-ID: Hej Bart, Cool post.. I wish the Gathering would come here to denmark. I really like some of their stuff a lot. I was a little disappointed with the latest 2 CD one. Most of the songs all sounded exactly the same, too little variety.. Cool band. Do you have a lot of their stuff? They have loads of Ep's and remixed lps and stuff.. I can seem to keep up with them.. Can you still get me the Dawn of Hawkwind with the booklet by Dave Brock? IF so, what would you like in trade.. tapes, CD'r's.. danish kroner.. I can make you a CD of the latest MM gig from K?benhavn. I got an incredible recording or something else. Check out my web page: http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstip/stage/7713 scott From adrian.brevard at EDS.COM Wed Jul 14 10:08:02 1999 From: adrian.brevard at EDS.COM (Brevard, Adrian R) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:08:02 -0400 Subject: BOC: Meltzer/Pearlman Message-ID: << Perhaps Dick and Sandy can: 1) Go to a pawn shop and buy an axe 2) Take a few lessons 3) Attempt to fulfill the Marshall Plan Somebody will have to change their name to Johnny... >> >According to an article in a 1981 issue of Creem: Wrestling critic and BOC lyricist R. Meltzer was the lead singer for a brief period in 1968. Says Buck: "We were sandwiched between James Cotton and Richie Havens at the Cafe a Go Go and Meltzer sang the blues. To a packed house of college kids, the band did like a frenetic and desperate jam while R. took off his shirt and ran back and forth across the stage yelling 'Piss!' into the microphone. We knew then we needed a real lead singer." >SET Great hariy howls! Thats funny. Ghost in the Ruins NP - SEE From adrian.brevard at EDS.COM Wed Jul 14 10:03:45 1999 From: adrian.brevard at EDS.COM (Brevard, Adrian R) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:03:45 -0400 Subject: BOC: 16 tracks Message-ID: Gave this some thought (a rarity for sure). I didn't look at it as what got airplay, charts etc just 16 songs that define BOC for me. So without further ado, my take on BOC's 16 best songs and the version of which I speak. (No particular order ok) 1. Stairway to the Stars - BOC 2. Lips in the Hills - CE 3. Unknown Tongue - CE 4. Joan Crawford - FoUO 5. Harvest Moon - HF 6. In The Presence of Another World - Imaginos 7. The Vigil - Mirrors 8. The Subhuman - OYFOOYK 9. Flaming Telepaths - ST 10. Astronomy - ST 11. DFtR - SEE Live version 12. Golden Age of Leather - Specters 13. Noseferatu - Specters 14. Take Me Away - RBN 15. Baby Ice Dog - T&M 16. ETI - AOF Note both Reaper and Subhuman studio versions would make my list but the live ones are to die for. From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Wed Jul 14 10:22:41 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:22:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Eclipse Private Party Message-ID: Hello, Sorry about the secrecy. It is a private festival, unofficial. It will be held on 11th, but we will be there all week. There will be camping, it is all on private land so no usual festival facilities although we will do our best. It basically started as a friend's wedding reception but it has expanded and he is kind enough not to mind sharing it with 500 or so Hawkwind fans! All I can say is that it is near Helston in Cornwall and more details will be released nearer the date. Otherwise we run the risk of it being stopped. Hope this helps! Kris PS Can someone tell me how to reply to messages on the list. If I hit reply to sender, the message goes, but never appears. What am I doing wrong? I can never get a "Re:" From SHLL at NOVO.DK Wed Jul 14 10:42:29 1999 From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:42:29 +0200 Subject: Eclipse Private Party Message-ID: Hej, All I can say is that it is near Helston in Cornwall and more details will be released nearer the date. Otherwise we run the risk of it being stopped. Hope this helps! This sounds like quite risky business for us who want to travel from outside the UK to be there.. What if spend ?200 pounds to come all the way to the edge of the world (england) and it is shut down? Sounds like a very high risk adventure for the band to take the fans on?? scott From Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET Wed Jul 14 10:59:08 1999 From: Joseph.Brooks at GCCCD.NET (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 07:59:08 -0700 Subject: 16 tracks Message-ID: Ok, I'll play.. Lets see.. Airplay is meaningless to me.. I would tend to avoid the airplay songs personally.. (I would be curious what BOC songs people have heard on the radio aside from the "big 3".. I've heard CoF, "Veteran of Psychic Wars" and "Astronomy" but very rarely). Also in no particular order: Career of Evil - ST Baby Ice Dog - T&M Transmaniacon M.C. - BOC Harvester of Eyes - ST Cagey Cretins - ST Black Blade - CE ME262 - ST Shooting Shark - (uh... RBN? CN?) Flaming Telepaths - ST Astronomy - ST Blue Oyster Cult (Subhuman, Imaginos version) Magna of Illusion (Is that the name? from Imaginos...) The Vigil - Mirrors The Great Sun Jester - Mirrors 7 Screaming Diz Busters - T&M Mistress of the Salmon Salt T&M JB > -----Original Message----- > From: Brevard, Adrian R [mailto:adrian.brevard at EDS.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 7:04 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: BOC: 16 tracks > > > Gave this some thought (a rarity for sure). I didn't look at > it as what got > airplay, charts etc just 16 songs that define BOC for me. > > So without further ado, my take on BOC's 16 best songs and > the version of > which I speak. (No particular order ok) > > 1. Stairway to the Stars - BOC > 2. Lips in the Hills - CE > 3. Unknown Tongue - CE > 4. Joan Crawford - FoUO > 5. Harvest Moon - HF > 6. In The Presence of Another World - Imaginos > 7. The Vigil - Mirrors > 8. The Subhuman - OYFOOYK > 9. Flaming Telepaths - ST > 10. Astronomy - ST > 11. DFtR - SEE Live version > 12. Golden Age of Leather - Specters > 13. Noseferatu - Specters > 14. Take Me Away - RBN > 15. Baby Ice Dog - T&M > 16. ETI - AOF > > Note both Reaper and Subhuman studio versions would make my > list but the > live ones are to die for. > From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Jul 14 11:02:44 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:02:44 -0400 Subject: HW: Eclipse Private Party Message-ID: >PS Can someone tell me how to reply to messages on the list. If I hit reply >to sender, the message goes, but never appears. What am I doing wrong? I >can never get a "Re:" There is probably a switch in your e-mail program to turn "quoting" on or off... "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold Systems Administrator From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 14 11:33:33 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:33:33 +0100 Subject: Eclipse Private Party In-Reply-To: Scott Heller's message of Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:42:29 +0200 Message-ID: Scott Heller writes: > Hej, > > All I can say is that it is near Helston in Cornwall and > more details will be released nearer the date. Otherwise we run the risk of > it being stopped. > Hope this helps! > > > This sounds like quite risky business for us who want to travel from outside > the UK to be there.. What if spend ?200 pounds to come all the way to the > edge of the world (england) and it is shut down? Sounds like a very high > risk adventure for the band to take the fans on?? Hey man This is Hawkwind! All you need do is decide to take a holiday that week anyhow and make sure you go to Helston in Cornwall in time for the eclipse. It'll be an great experience (if you weren't already going to see it in Denmark) as long as it doesn't rain and Helston is probably a really nice little place to be for a few days. If it's a wedding then that will definitely happen (one hopes!) and all you need do is keep in touch with Kris & Co and find out where the reception is going to be held and just turn up. Incidentally Brian May was on the TV the other day with Patrick Moore on Sky at Night and he turns out to be an astronomer in his own right. Anyhow he also was going to stay with a friend in Cornwall...... enjoy jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 14 11:58:20 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 16:58:20 +0100 Subject: HW: Eclipse Private Party In-Reply-To: XXX's message of Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:22:41 +0100 Message-ID: XXX writes: > PS Can someone tell me how to reply to messages on the list. If I hit reply > to sender, the message goes, but never appears. What am I doing wrong? I > can never get a "Re:" The messages are probably going to the folks who sent the messages to the list rather than the list. What mail package are you using? FoFP From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jul 14 12:15:35 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:15:35 EDT Subject: HW: T/shirts and general merchandise Message-ID: In a message dated 7/10/99 4:02:46 PM, Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes: <> ++++++++++++ in '75 i sent to some folks who regularly advertised in CREEM for a hawkwind t-shirt; what i got was light blue, long-sleeved, w/a two-headed hawk in front of a half-ring of stars. the band's name ran above this, in lettering much the same as the hall/warriors covers. at the time i didnt like the long sleeves...i lent it to someone and never got it back. rock t-shirts werent nearly as ubiquitous then as they've become; the folks from whom i got the shirt actually had hawkwind's name mentioned in their list of bands in their ad for a while, the only t-shirt dealer (w/ads in CREEM) to do so. "<>" From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Jul 14 11:17:27 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:17:27 -0400 Subject: HW: T/shirts and fonts Message-ID: Larry said... >what i got was light blue, long-sleeved, w/a two-headed hawk in >front of a half-ring of stars. the band's name ran above this, in lettering >much the same as the hall/warriors covers. Hey, on this note...can anyone familiar with fonts and such tell me what the name of this gothic-style font is? Or where I might download a *.ttf of it? Thanks! Keith H. (FAA) From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jul 14 13:01:05 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:01:05 EDT Subject: jim carroll (was: BOC: In Thee Lyrics) Message-ID: In a message dated 7/14/99 5:43:58 AM, nick at THECAMPUS.COM writes: <<> Anyone ever hear any of JC's stuff? Saw him live a long time ago, > and he played the unforgettable 'People Who Died." That song alone > would be worth picking up one of his discs... > > theo =========== cant follow you here, mistah T. gomen nasai =========== "People Who Died" can be found on Jim Carroll's "Catholic Boy" album, which also includes a song collaboration and an appearance (On keys, I think) by Alan. Not on that particular song, though. That's pretty much all I know about Jim Carroll. Started watching "Basketball Diaries" once, but I really didn't like it. -- Nick ==============>> never saw the movie...thought the book was ok when i was about 14... carroll did 3 lp's, i think, w/"catholic boy" being the first, and "people who died" being the "fm airplay cut". "people who died" is an uptempo rockin' 12 bar wherein carroll sings the whole thing through twice, so you get that annoying "people who died" refrain half a dozen times. to the xtent it received airplay, it woulda been for the same reason talking heads' "psycho killer" got commercial fm airplay when it was new: its title. IMHO jim carroll-as- rock-star was farcical and a bit too presumptuous on his part. but i'm also privy to a reliable anecdote (which i think i've used here before ) wherein carroll speaks from the stage of how "clean" he now was, and following the show, heads straight for his "nod"... at least johnny thunders didnt lie to the audience about it...(did he? they probably woulda laughed ) "<>" From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Wed Jul 14 13:04:42 1999 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (James A Hogard) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 12:04:42 -0500 Subject: BOC: In Thee Lyrics Message-ID: >I'm sure this has been hashed over before, but looking at the In Thee >lyrics >on Heaven Forbid, who is Jim ?? > >"Jim says some destinies should not be delivered" "Some destinies, they should not be delivered" is a line from "Day and Night," from the JCB's _Catholic Boy_, credited to Carroll/Lanier. Hogard From brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jul 14 14:07:16 1999 From: brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:07:16 +0100 Subject: HW:BADAM In-Reply-To: <199907141630.MAA09311@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Hello All Joy of Joys my BADAM tickets arrived today. Buxton here I come. BTW does anyone know the order of the bands or who is playing on which day? Brian From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jul 14 15:58:03 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:58:03 EDT Subject: Fwd: HW: Books About Hawkwind Message-ID: this comes by way of someone better known by his real name...^_~ -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: DWa2898572 at aol.com Subject: Re: HW: Books About Hawkwind Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:09:10 EDT Size: 1206 URL: From Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Wed Jul 14 15:15:01 1999 From: Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Nik Lowenberg) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:15:01 -0400 Subject: HW: Books About Hawkwind Message-ID: >> this comes by way of someone better known by his real name...^_~ > >Notable also is Meldoy Maker/New Music Express/Sounds between 1970-1980... >these covered the band's doings regularly during these years! As well, 8/74 >Trouser Press Magazine had a long article on the boys! Anyone have that issue of the Trouser Press? The only articles I've seen are on Hawkwind.com, but I'd love to see some new NME/MM/Sounds articles make the rounds. There also is that guy who has a Hawksite on the net who claims that he has a pile of Hawkwind press clippings going back to 1970 and when he gets a scanner we're all going to suffer. I read that last summer and I am truly suffering now. Is that what he meant? He's going to buy a scanner and not use, just to tease us and make us suffer? Is that how he gets his jollies? Back to the point...I want to read some more Hawkarticles. -Nik From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Jul 14 17:21:00 1999 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:21:00 -0400 Subject: MoFi BOC / T&M gold disc Message-ID: >I'm not sure which edition it is of the lyric book, but my copy has "arms to >the rain" etc. However it still insists on two huskies, which (I'd say!) is >> original lyrics sheet you could obtain from BOC had the line "The >> harvester >> lives, with arms that are bent," while Bolle has "The harvester lifts his >> arms to the rain"...which version is current? I don't have the gold disc LMAO I just checked out the lyric book (which is very good incidentally) and I'm almost aghast. Bolle sent me a copy to check out before the final publication and these errors slipped by me, The line in question should read, "A harvest of limbs, of arms and of legs, of toes that crawl, of knees that jerk, and necks... etc." There's another mistake and that's in the last verse. It should read "It's springtime now and cares subside, And the planting's almost done" There's another mistake in the official lyric book for Tryany: I Dizbusters, the first ramp before the chorus should read: "7 screaming dizbusters who lurked behind the rose had iron for a bloodstream and ice behind their eyes" I think I like cast iron better tho. And it is "mush you huskies" too. From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jul 14 17:28:36 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 22:28:36 +0100 Subject: HW: Books About Hawkwind In-Reply-To: <19990714201722.IARA4954@nl-hello> Message-ID: Hmm - this started me going through my old scrapbook (well, photocopies of a net-friend's scrapbook actually). Some of these will no doubt end up on the hawkwind.com site; but one that might be of interest I'll type out here and now. From Melody Maker's "Any Questions" page, 5th February 1972. --- Q. How did Hawkwind get their name and how do they define their music? - Robert A. Wingate, Malvern. A. Well, it all started as a joke, because Nik Turner has a prominent proboscis and suffers from indigestion! But really it goes a lot deeper than that, because we're all deeply involved in ancient mythology and numerology. The hawk represents a winged god in Egyptian mythology and is a symbol of strength and power in Pagan mythology. It is a dominating bird of prey, with a strong spirit, travelling on the wind. The title is also connected with Hawkmoon, a character devised by famous science-fantasy writer Michael Moorcock, in his story of the runestaff, an ancient staff with great powers of good. All our names and the title Hawkwind have powerful influences when worked out in numerology. We play extra-terrestrial music, in which we try to get the audience involved. Participation creates energy and through the energy it is possible to make experiments. We are working on all kinds of sound developments, because sound has different points which can either make you feel good or bad. It's a matter of getting them sorted out. - DAVE BROCK, Hawkwind. --- --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Nik Lowenberg > Sent: 14 July 1999 20:15 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: HW: Books About Hawkwind > > > >> this comes by way of someone better known by his real name...^_~ > > > >Notable also is Meldoy Maker/New Music Express/Sounds between > 1970-1980... > >these covered the band's doings regularly during these years! As well, > 8/74 > >Trouser Press Magazine had a long article on the boys! > > Anyone have that issue of the Trouser Press? The only articles I've seen > are on Hawkwind.com, but I'd love to see some new NME/MM/Sounds articles > make the rounds. There also is that guy who has a Hawksite on the net who > claims that he has a pile of Hawkwind press clippings going back to 1970 > and when he gets a scanner we're all going to suffer. I read that last > summer and I am truly suffering now. Is that what he meant? > He's going to > buy a scanner and not use, just to tease us and make us suffer? Is that > how he gets his jollies? Back to the point...I want to read some more > Hawkarticles. > > -Nik > From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Wed Jul 14 18:39:40 1999 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 23:39:40 +0100 Subject: Fw: Re: HW: T/shirts and fonts Message-ID: I have a font called (strangely enough!) Brock, which I think is what you're looking for - I've just posted it to http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/brock.zip It's a Windows True Type font. Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jul 14 18:35:49 1999 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 23:35:49 +0100 Subject: HW AND RUSH Message-ID: Sorry for being slow to add this information. At the Hawkon 84 Nik T put a T-shirt up for auction from a USA tour featuring HW supported by Rush. I am not sure but I think Rush used the HW slide show from the Levitation tour. Is there anyone who was at the Hawkon lurking. Dave H -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Jul 14 19:25:38 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:25:38 +0100 Subject: HW: Eclipse Private Party In-Reply-To: <199907141558.QAA21603@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 16:58 14/07/99 +0100, you wrote: >XXX writes: > >> PS Can someone tell me how to reply to messages on the list. If I hit reply >> to sender, the message goes, but never appears. What am I doing wrong? I >> can never get a "Re:" > >The messages are probably going to the folks who sent the messages to >the list rather than the list. What mail package are you using? > >FoFP > According to the header I get, the mail program is:- "X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155" My suggestion would be to download (or get from a magazine CD-ROM) a copy of Eudora Light or Pegasus (both freeware); assuming you're using a PC rather than a Mac. In my experience, Eudora is easier to set up, but Pegasus does a neat trick with digests allowing access to each individual posting, and allows multiple users in one copy of the software. I've no doubt that others on this list will have their own preferences/recommendations *g* ChrisW NP: IITBOTFTBD (of which more later) From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Jul 14 19:42:24 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 00:42:24 +0100 Subject: HW: reissues Message-ID: I strolled in to Our Price (please don't laugh - we only have two disc shops) here in (not so) sunny Burton today, having finally got my dole cheque, in search of the latest Afro-Celt Sound System album. Having failed in my mission I was just about to leave when uch to my surprise I saw in the "promotion" racks above the regular alphabetic section a stack of the new Castle HW reissues, with a little plug for three of them. Thgey're quite neatly packaged in a CD sized "book" with a slot to hold the CD and a little glossy booklet with notes on the music and a bit of HW history & all at ?8.99. The spines each have a large letter or two at the top, and a full set would spell out "HAWKWIND". They are captioned inside as "Hawkwind Presents The Sounds Of Earth" Only having Palace Springs out of this batch I picked up Xenon Codex (a random choice...) but on getting it out this evening, found that the oik in the shop had put IITBOTFTBD in instead, so I guess I'm walking into town again tomorrow!!! ChrisW NP:IITBOTFTD From vince-l at EROLS.COM Wed Jul 14 20:07:16 1999 From: vince-l at EROLS.COM (Vince LeGrand) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:07:16 -0400 Subject: HW: Books About Hawkwind Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Nik Lowenberg To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 4:22 PM Subject: Re: HW: Books About Hawkwind >As well, >8/74 >>Trouser Press Magazine had a long article on the boys! > >Anyone have that issue of the Trouser Press? Are you sure you mean the 8/74 issue of the Trouser Press? I co-authored (w/Ira Robbins) a Hawkwind article in the Trouser Press issue #10 in 1975. I didn't think there had been much Hawkwind coverage in earlier issues of TP. From Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Wed Jul 14 19:17:23 1999 From: Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Nik Lowenberg) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:17:23 -0400 Subject: HW: Books About Hawkwind Message-ID: > Are you sure you mean the 8/74 issue of the Trouser Press? I co-authored > (w/Ira Robbins) a Hawkwind article in the Trouser Press issue #10 in 1975. > I didn't think there had been much Hawkwind coverage in earlier issues of > TP. Could you do me (or everyone) a favour and transcribe this? I'm sure a lot of Hawkfans who haven't seen it would love to read it (especially me). -Nik From vince-l at EROLS.COM Wed Jul 14 20:45:20 1999 From: vince-l at EROLS.COM (Vince LeGrand) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:45:20 -0400 Subject: HW: Books About Hawkwind Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Nik Lowenberg To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 4:22 PM Subject: Re: HW: Books About Hawkwind >>> this comes by way of someone better known by his real name...^_~ >> >>Notable also is Meldoy Maker/New Music Express/Sounds between 1970-1980... >>these covered the band's doings regularly during these years! As well, >8/74 >>Trouser Press Magazine had a long article on the boys! > >Anyone have that issue of the Trouser Press? The only articles I've seen >are on Hawkwind.com, but I'd love to see some new NME/MM/Sounds articles >make the rounds. There also is that guy who has a Hawksite on the net who >claims that he has a pile of Hawkwind press clippings going back to 1970 >and when he gets a scanner we're all going to suffer. I read that last >summer and I am truly suffering now. Is that what he meant? He's going to >buy a scanner and not use, just to tease us and make us suffer? Is that >how he gets his jollies? Back to the point...I want to read some more >Hawkarticles. > >-Nik In searching through my "archives," I have stumbled across an amazing find. Some of the gems I have found: - Original greenbar printout of BOC lyrics - A whole bunch of clippings of Melody Makers, NME's, etc. from 74/75. They focus on a couple of my favorites: Hawkwind and T. Dream. They are pretty yellowed, but I will see how well I can scan them. - 2 unused tickets to Hawkwind at the Academy of Music on Nov. 2, 1974 and 2 programs for that show (actually for all shows that week at the Academy...not much Hawkwind content) - A couple of Hawkwind buttons (DoReMi cover and 1999 Party Tour) - Several BOC bumper-stickers - My handwritten notes (at least the first 7 pages) from an interview I did with Simon King and Alan Powell in 75(?) What memories....as hazy as they may be :-o From vince-l at EROLS.COM Wed Jul 14 20:55:58 1999 From: vince-l at EROLS.COM (Vince LeGrand) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 20:55:58 -0400 Subject: HW: Books About Hawkwind Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Nik Lowenberg To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 8:26 PM Subject: Re: HW: Books About Hawkwind >> Are you sure you mean the 8/74 issue of the Trouser Press? I >co-authored >> (w/Ira Robbins) a Hawkwind article in the Trouser Press issue #10 in >1975. >> I didn't think there had been much Hawkwind coverage in earlier issues of >> TP. > >Could you do me (or everyone) a favour and transcribe this? I'm sure a lot >of Hawkfans who haven't seen it would love to read it (especially me). > >-Nik Let me try some character recognition scanning software on the article...I don't want to get everyone on the list mad at me by uploading scanned images of the article :-( From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jul 14 21:47:50 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 01:47:50 GMT Subject: HW: reissues In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990715004224.008fae20@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: >shops) here in (not so) sunny Burton today, having finally got my dole talking of sunny Burton, if you ever bump into a (formerly) Jamaican guy called Bonny ask him about the Hawks as he sound engineered for them (and Lee Perry) amongst others. Top bloke and mad as fuck (in the nicest possible way). If you already know him, the you know what i mean. andrew Gouts of blood! Kill all the squares! - The Cramps From jtal at C379223-A.PLSTN1.SFBA.HOME.COM Thu Jul 15 00:45:14 1999 From: jtal at C379223-A.PLSTN1.SFBA.HOME.COM (Joe Tal) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 21:45:14 -0700 Subject: Play list for ProgFest 99 In-Reply-To: <378961FB.67B9647@palmnet.net> from "Captain Cloud" at Jul 11, 99 11:33:15 pm Message-ID: Hope this isn't too far off topic... Does anybody know where I can find the Play List for the bands at ProgFest 99 in San Francisco on May 29, especially for Gong and Brand X? Thanks! Joe T. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Jul 15 03:41:07 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 03:41:07 -0400 Subject: Ozric Tentacles @ Ziggy's, Winston-Salem, NC Message-ID: I just got back from seeing the Ozrics at Ziggy's, Winston-Salem, NC. Phew!! Insane version of "Sploosh!!" Lots of energy all around. Ed could've been a bit higher in the mix, but you can't have everything. Worth the 2 hour drive each way, methinks. Nust sleep now, but before I do, an interesting postscript to the recent HW t-shirt/merchandising thread: at the gig I saw not one but *TWO* brand spanking new Hawkwind t-shirts in the crowd. I don't know if they were exactly the same, but they were similar in that they both were black and featured the Doremi shield cover on the front. One of them had "Welcome to the Future" written underneath it. On the back of at least one is a great B&W picture montage of the Doremi line-up (from one of the remasters?) Suffice to say, it was to die for. I didn't get to speak to the guy wearing it, so does anyone know who is knocking these out, and from whence they can be obtained. Like I said, it looked BRAND SPANKING NEW, never been washed, etc. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Jul 15 07:19:41 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 07:19:41 EDT Subject: Fwd: HW: Books About Hawkwind Message-ID: pursuant to yesterday's head-scratching re: that '74 issue of trouser press, dr. synth remembers a little better now "<>" -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: DWa2898572 at aol.com Subject: Re: HW: Books About Hawkwind Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 02:14:43 EDT Size: 517 URL: From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Jul 15 07:33:48 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 07:33:48 EDT Subject: HW shirts//Re: Ozric Tentacles @ Ziggy's, Winston-Salem, NC Message-ID: In a message dated 7/15/99 3:41:48 AM, paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU writes: <> ========= i've got the DOREMI shirt w/the individual band member pix on the back...got it circa '92 from that guy out west == brian pererra or something?== traded him 3 hw audience tapes for it, as opposed to paying for it. i wore it once or twice but it's up in my closet next to my nausicaa shirt etc. as "something not to wear"...though i'd considered bringing it to STRANGE DAZE (grin) but that shirt == at least its '92 incarnation == was, how you say, less than authorized, and last i knew pererra (sp??) was not in good standing w/a variety of hw-related folks. no offense, misrepresentation, or spelling errors intended by the above. "<>" From wcarter1 at OSF1.GMU.EDU Thu Jul 15 08:00:10 1999 From: wcarter1 at OSF1.GMU.EDU (Killing Joke) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:00:10 -0400 Subject: HW shirts//Re: Ozric Tentacles @ Ziggy's, Winston-Salem, NC In-Reply-To: <2d03a51a.24bf211c@aol.com> Message-ID: Hey..I'm new on the list..and right now I'm in England (I'm staying at Cambridge..and then London) and I'm curious if there are any shops that carry Hawkwind shirts in this country? I've been looking all through London with no luck..can anyone help me out here? (the same goes for Killing Joke shirts too) thanks Bill On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 7/15/99 3:41:48 AM, paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU writes: > > < *TWO* brand spanking new Hawkwind t-shirts in the crowd. I don't know > if they were exactly the same, but they were similar in that they both > were black and featured the Doremi shield cover on the front. One of > them had "Welcome to the Future" written underneath it. On the back > of at least one is a great B&W picture montage of the Doremi line-up > (from one of the remasters?) Suffice to say, it was to die for. I > didn't get to speak to the guy wearing it, so does anyone know who is > knocking these out, and from whence they can be obtained. Like I > said, it looked BRAND SPANKING NEW, never been washed, etc. > > Cheers, > > Paul.>> > ========= > i've got the DOREMI shirt w/the individual band member pix on the back...got > it circa '92 from that guy out west == brian pererra or something?== traded > him 3 hw audience tapes for it, as opposed to paying for it. > i wore it once or twice but it's up in my closet next to my nausicaa shirt > etc. as "something not to wear"...though i'd considered bringing it to > STRANGE DAZE (grin) > > but that shirt == at least its '92 incarnation == was, how you say, less than > authorized, and last i knew pererra (sp??) was not in good standing w/a > variety of hw-related folks. > > no offense, misrepresentation, or spelling errors intended by the above. > > "<>" > From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Jul 15 08:06:49 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:06:49 EDT Subject: HW shirts//Re: Ozric Tentacles @ Ziggy's, Winston-Salem, NC Message-ID: In a message dated 7/15/99 8:00:25 AM, wcarter1 at OSF1.GMU.EDU writes: <> ===== we was discoursin' about this just yesterday, and i just know any christian lion-hearted** BOC-L comrade will show up any second now to fix yiz up **it's time to play "catch the reference"! these things just happen when i dont go to bed (grin) "<>" From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jul 15 09:17:13 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:17:13 -0400 Subject: HW shirts Message-ID: lb said... >i've got the DOREMI shirt w/the individual band member pix on the back...got >it circa '92 from that guy out west == brian pererra or something?== traded >him 3 hw audience tapes for it, as opposed to paying for it. >i wore it once or twice but it's up in my closet next to my nausicaa shirt >etc. as "something not to wear"...though i'd considered bringing it to >STRANGE DAZE (grin) OK, I won't wear mine. :) Yeah, I got it from Brian also, around 10 years ago or so. Back when he ran the 'Rock Cave' and before he founded Cleopatra. The other one I got from him is a tie-dye, with the Space Ritual cover on the front and some original design on the back. It's really cool...I wore it to the St. Catharines show in c. 1991, and when I talked to Dave, he wanted to know where I'd gotten it. I think he just was curious as to who was making money at their expense. :) That same day, it was Chris Bruce (on the day of the van accident IIRC) who stopped me on the street nearby and told me it was a 'pirate.' Ah well, the band's already earned enough of my money already, and without that profit Brian made, we might not have *any* US space rock labels (Madonna tributes notwithstanding). >but that shirt == at least its '92 incarnation == was, how you say, less than >authorized, and last i knew pererra (sp??) was not in good standing w/a >variety of hw-related folks. You can read Dave Thompson's propaganda to tell which ones. :) Keith H. (FAA) P.S. The 'Welcome to the Future' shirts...aren't they from the 1997 mini-tour? From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jul 15 09:25:21 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:25:21 -0400 Subject: HW: T/shirts and fonts Message-ID: Kevin said... >I have a font called (strangely enough!) Brock, which I think is what you're >looking for - I've just posted it to >http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/brock.zip > >It's a Windows True Type font. Thanks, man. Except I haven't been able to access this page. I'm consistantly getting a 'server not responding' message. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks! Keith H. (FAA) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jul 15 12:56:50 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:56:50 +0100 Subject: BOC: In Thee Lyrics In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990714002313.011c3a50@flite.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, Andrew Apold wrote: > > Actually, can somebody furnish me with writing credits for CN? My > >tape copy is devoid of them. Cheers, yours, > > That is also in the FAQ. Please, please do yourself a favor and get > (and read) the FAQ. It makes for a good read, too. I keep a printed > copy next to my computer with my goldmine article... Bother, is it? I am abashed. I didn't remember there being credits in there, I obviously can't have read it carefully enough yet :-) Yours, Jon From corwyn2 at MINDSPRING.COM Thu Jul 15 12:57:20 1999 From: corwyn2 at MINDSPRING.COM (Mike Habiby) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 12:57:20 -0400 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet Desktop Message-ID: Go here folks http://microage.freethemes.com/ Mike From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Jul 15 13:02:12 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:02:12 EDT Subject: HW shirts Message-ID: In a message dated 7/15/99 10:30:51 AM, DASLUD at aol.com und henderson.120 at OSU.EDU write: <<>i wore it once or twice (the doremi hw shirt) but it's up in my closet next to my nausicaa shirt >etc. as "something not to wear"...though i'd considered bringing it to >STRANGE DAZE (grin) ======= OK, I won't wear mine. :) ======== heck of a gesture on your part, comrade ^_~ in return, i'll leave that shirt in my closet. so between you and me, that particular sartorial gesture will be yours and yours alone. been thinking about wearing my cult of the dead cow t-shirt when i played, actually. i sweat too much when i play in those kinda shirts, tho. ^_~ "<>" From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jul 15 13:05:36 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 18:05:36 +0100 Subject: HW shirts In-Reply-To: Killing Joke's message of Thu, 15 Jul 1999 08:00:10 -0400 Message-ID: Killing Joke writes: > Hey..I'm new on the list..and right now I'm in England (I'm staying at > Cambridge..and then London) and I'm curious if there are any shops that > carry Hawkwind shirts in this country? I've been looking all through > London with no luck..can anyone help me out here? (the same goes for > Killing Joke shirts too) You won't find any Hawkwind shirts in the shops I'm afraid. But Kris Tait mailed the list recently about the possibility of re-issuing some of them so - keep watching. It's also possible that Hawkwind Merchandising (errm - I can't remember the address offhand - anyone?) still have some available. And it looks as if I shall be going to Buxton so if anyone would like me to look around for merchandise get in touch and I'll see what I can find. cheers jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Jul 15 16:06:39 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 13:06:39 -0700 Subject: HW shirts Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Jul 1999 09:17:13 -0400, Keith Henderson wrote: >and without that profit Brian made, we might not >have *any* US space rock labels Hey! What're you implying there? ;^) You can rest assured that the US of A would have at least one (if not particularly active at the moment) spacerock label, whether mr. P. was a millionaire or a pauper. >(Madonna tributes notwithstanding). -Doug Ceres Records ceres at sirius.com (who's played Madonna covers in a couple bands he's been in) From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Jul 15 16:16:25 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 16:16:25 EDT Subject: OFF: Bee Gees? Message-ID: In a message dated 99-07-15 08:08:04 EDT, you write: << we was discoursin' about this just yesterday, and i just know any christian lion-hearted** BOC-L comrade will show up any second now to fix yiz up **it's time to play "catch the reference"! these things just happen when i dont go to bed (grin) "<>" >> ---Bee Gees? Chuck From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Jul 15 17:22:54 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 17:22:54 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bee Gees? In-Reply-To: <8070d5f1.24bf9b99@aol.com> Message-ID: At 04:16 PM 7/15/99 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 99-07-15 08:08:04 EDT, you write: > ><< we was discoursin' about this just yesterday, and i just know any christian > lion-hearted** BOC-L comrade will show up any second now to fix yiz up > > **it's time to play "catch the reference"! > these things just happen when i dont go to bed (grin) > "<>" >> > > >---Bee Gees? >Chuck Richard "the lion-hearted" Meltzer. ;-) Brian NP> The Sesquincentenial Rochester Oral History Project Cassettes, vol. 1 (c) 1984 From JOHNANDBEVBONO at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jul 15 21:07:41 1999 From: JOHNANDBEVBONO at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (JOHN BONO) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 1999 21:07:41 -0400 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Please , Chris , stop freezing my computer ! ----- Original Message ----- From: JOHN BONO To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 1999 10:06 PM > Whenever I get to a message from " Christopher Bruce " with a digital > signature , my computer freezes in the mail " Inbox " . Can anyone help with > this ? Thanks , John > From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jul 16 03:56:01 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 03:56:01 EDT Subject: OFF: Bee Gees? Message-ID: In a message dated 7/15/99 4:24:33 PM, Chuckrecs at aol.com writes: <> **it's time to play "catch the reference"! these things just happen when i dont go to bed (grin) "<>" >> ========= ---Bee Gees?>> =========== yowsa, mr. chuck! 30-some odd years ago, there would these boxes of, like, 20 cutout singles for $1.98, and amongst the dross* on one occasion was "any christian lion-hearted man will show you" by the pre-disco bros. gibb. *some of that "dross" may well have become "valuable collectibles" in the ensuing years...^_~ "<>" From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jul 16 03:52:54 1999 From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 08:52:54 +0100 Subject: Chris Bruce's mail Message-ID: Hi folks Dunno abot anyone else but i still can't open Chris Bruce's digitally signed mail. Each time i get a message saying it's been tamprered with on route. >From there i just delete the message but would like to see what he's written? All the best Age Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jul 16 04:24:07 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 04:24:07 EDT Subject: Chris Bruce's mail Message-ID: In a message dated 7/16/99 4:05:11 AM, age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: <> ==== there were 226 e-mails waiting for me upon my return from va (the AOL "new mail" capacity is 550!) and this matter had been one of the major BOC-L themes in my absence... when i began receiving (off-group) mail from chris w/that attachment, i thought "oh sh*t, it's a bloody virus!!....but wait, we both have macs!!" his xplanation as to the purpose of that attachment was among the stored mail i lost when i had my AOL meltdown some weeks ago, but i think he xplained it here... but if he's the only one here "signing" or "protecting" his mail in that manner, and it continues to foul up some of yiz' mailboxes...this week it's either forgetfulness or else he believes he made an adjustment, which apparently aint done the trick... he was gonna show me how to "sign" stuff like that too (laughs) X (his mark) From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Fri Jul 16 05:42:51 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:42:51 +0100 Subject: OFF: Afro Celt Sound System In-Reply-To: <199907150901.FAA06497@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From m.r.varley at UCLAN.AC.UK Fri Jul 16 10:41:40 1999 From: m.r.varley at UCLAN.AC.UK (Martin Varley) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:41:40 GMT+0 Subject: Revisited ?? Message-ID: Hello BOC-L I have just found a BOC CD called Revisited from 1996 - the review states that: Blue Oyster Cult's Revisited is a collection of re-recordings of such songs as (Don't Fear) the Reaper, Godzilla, Transmaniacon MC, Hot Rails to Hell and In Thee. The performances are competent, but never distinctive, making this of marginal interest even to hardcore fans. ( Stephen Thomas Erlewine, All-Music Guide) Has anyone got this? Is this 're-recordings' in the same way as Cult Classic or is this just another bog-standard compilation? Details can be seen at (all on one line): http://www.rock.com/scripts/artist.cfm?a_id=R%20%20%20281878&prod_id=G O742%2E2&rfd=6435&site=up&tck=1 Any news on this from anyone? Does anyone know a reliable source for the St. Cecilia album on CD? Cheers Martin From hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM Fri Jul 16 07:38:52 1999 From: hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM (Randy) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 06:38:52 -0500 Subject: OFF: Afro Celt Sound System In-Reply-To: <199907161050.KAA15754@firewall.peritech.co.uk> Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 532 bytes Desc: not available URL: From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Fri Jul 16 08:12:58 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:12:58 +1000 Subject: HW: T/shirts and fonts Message-ID: On 15 Jul 99, at 9:25, Keith Henderson wrote: > Kevin said... > > >http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/brock.zip > > Thanks, man. Except I haven't been able to access this page. I'm > consistantly getting a 'server not responding' message. Am I doing > something wrong? Ditto. I thought it was just my ISP, but obviously not .... Soniqu? -- PO Box 378 Paul Ward Ashburton http://sonique.net VIC 3147 (time permitting) Mob:0418 524744 sonique at sonique.net From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Fri Jul 16 08:19:37 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 22:19:37 +1000 Subject: HW: T/shirts and fonts Message-ID: > Kevin said... > > >http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/brock.zip Is this the same as http://microage.freethemes.com/fonts/zips/ab/brock.zip ? Soniqu? -- PO Box 378 Paul Ward Ashburton http://sonique.net VIC 3147 (time permitting) Mob:0418 524744 sonique at sonique.net From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jul 16 09:54:57 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:54:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: Chris Bruce's mail In-Reply-To: <000201becf61$ebc535a0$4239883e@default> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Adrian Parr wrote: =>Hi folks =>Dunno abot anyone else but i still can't open Chris Bruce's digitally signed =>mail. Each time i get a message saying it's been tamprered with on route. =>>From there i just delete the message but would like to see what he's =>written? It sounds like your mailer is severely brain damaged and/or broken. I mean, it's nice that it does a "Danger Will Robinson!" and detects and informs you that the mail has been corrupted en route, but it's bad that it won't let you subsequently view it (having been warned). What is this program, your mother??? ;-) You might want to migrate to a more permissive mail reading program such as one of those mentioned previously here (Eudora, Pine, Pegasus Mail, etc.). Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Fri Jul 16 09:59:15 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:59:15 -0400 Subject: Chris Bruce's mail Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Parr To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Friday, July 16, 1999 4:36 AM Subject: Chris Bruce's mail >Hi folks >Dunno abot anyone else but i still can't open Chris Bruce's digitally signed >mail. Each time i get a message saying it's been tamprered with on route. >>From there i just delete the message but would like to see what he's >written? >All the best >Age >Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: >http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html You can open it from that black HTML screen. Just click Open. It makes it a two step process, makes the mail bigger, and has no business being posted to the listserv per the Admin, but don't let that stop ya Chris. We know how the Kremlin is constantly trying to disguise themselves as your secret self, after all. ;) It is pretty simple really, the mail IS being tampered with. Listserv is altering the header. It has to be done. So you can either open the mail in a two step process, or delete it, as I do. Those who are having their systems frozen, I suggest you kill-filter Chris, until you see a message from someone else indicating he has stopped using the verisign on the list. Ron From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jul 16 09:31:16 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:31:16 -0400 Subject: HW: T/shirts and fonts Message-ID: Sonique said... >> >http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/brock.zip > >Is this the same as http://microage.freethemes.com/fonts/zips/ab/brock.zip ? Yeah, it is. This is not, of course, what I was looking for. (I'm looking for the font that is used on Warrior, and Mountain Grill...it's a little like 'English Towne' but less fancy...can anyone help?) Though Kevin insists that this Brock font has been used on several Hawkwind albums. I don't really recognize it though...perhaps from the Text of Festival CD? No, on second thought, maybe not...it seems to me that's the forward-slanted logo with the little 'wings' on the H. I'll hafta go home and check tonight. You know, I can't think of another band that has used so many different fonts/logos as Hawkwind has. I guess that's partially because they so often have no control over the cover art, given that they often don't even know the releases are being prepared!! :) Keith H. (FAA) From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Jul 16 10:45:04 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 10:45:04 EDT Subject: Chris Bruce's mail Message-ID: In a message dated 7/16/99 10:03:58 AM, sprawl at BBOARD.COM writes: << You can open it from that black HTML screen. Just click Open. It makes it a two step process, makes the mail bigger, and has no business being posted to the listserv per the Admin, but don't let that stop ya Chris. We know how the Kremlin is constantly trying to disguise themselves as your secret self, after all. ;) It is pretty simple really, the mail IS being tampered with. Listserv is altering the header. It has to be done. So you can either open the mail in a two step process, or delete it, as I do. Those who are having their systems frozen, I suggest you kill-filter Chris, until you see a message from someone else indicating he has stopped using the verisign on the list. Ron =========>> while making clear i'm not ANY sort of spokesperson for mr. bruce... after reading today's further installments regarding this matter, i called him up and spoke with his wife, (a/k/a "madame quantum" to some of you.) as chris had stepped out. according to her, chris may not even be aware of this problem, or its persistence. i suggested to her that chris catches up on his BOC-L mail, and one might presume adjustments will be made and an xplanation will show up here today. "<>" From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Jul 16 09:45:39 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 09:45:39 -0400 Subject: OFF: Ozrics article Message-ID: Hi there...to promote tonight's Ozrics concert in Cleveland (I'll be there!), Scene magazine did an article on the band. Go to: http://www.clevescene.com/ and then click on music. Keith H. (FAA) From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Fri Jul 16 07:51:15 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:51:15 +0000 Subject: Come out, come out, wherever you are! Message-ID: Well folks, the Signature Certificate has raised its ugly head again! My apologies , again, to you all, but I had forgotten to turn it off the last time I posted to the boc-l list. Sorry! But its going to take some getting used to the ONLY non RFC 822 compliant newsgroup server (LISTSERV) that I've subscribed to. And if you're using Netscape, Internet Explorer/Outlook, MIMEMail, Elm, Pope, or Eudora, you shouldn't have had the problem at all if your browser is setup correctly, whether my Sig file was valid or not, you should simply have been informed as to its validity and nothing more! These Certificates are becoming more common every day, so be prepared for someone elses posts and update either your browser or get LISTSERV to stop adding tabs to the headers. (It would save disc space, too, albeit a tiny amount, but it adds up at 40+ boc-l posts a day!) Once more, my profuse apologies, and if anyone is reading this, could you tell the rest its OK to come out of their bomb shelters and read my posts? :) Possibly but unverifiably signed, Chris Bruce From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Fri Jul 16 12:40:35 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 12:40:35 -0400 Subject: Come out, come out, wherever you are! Message-ID: Quoted for those who might fear to read Chris's posts... =) -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Bruce To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Friday, July 16, 1999 12:24 PM Subject: Come out, come out, wherever you are! >Well folks, the Signature Certificate has raised its ugly head again! My >apologies , again, to you all, but I had forgotten to turn it off the last >time I posted to the boc-l list. Sorry! But its going to take some getting >used to the ONLY non RFC 822 compliant newsgroup server (LISTSERV) that I've >subscribed to. And if you're using Netscape, Internet Explorer/Outlook, >MIMEMail, Elm, Pope, or Eudora, you shouldn't have had the problem at all if >your browser is setup correctly, whether my Sig file was valid or not, you >should simply have been informed as to its validity and nothing more! > >These Certificates are becoming more common every day, so be prepared for >someone elses posts and update either your browser or get LISTSERV to stop >adding tabs to the headers. (It would save disc space, too, albeit a tiny >amount, but it adds up at 40+ boc-l posts a day!) > >Once more, my profuse apologies, and if anyone is reading this, could you tell >the rest its OK to come out of their bomb shelters and read my posts? :) > >Possibly but unverifiably signed, >Chris Bruce From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 16 13:56:12 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 18:56:12 +0100 Subject: Come out, come out, wherever you are! In-Reply-To: Christopher Bruce's message of Fri, 16 Jul 1999 11:51:15 +0000 Message-ID: Christopher Bruce writes: > Well folks, the Signature Certificate has raised its ugly head again! My > apologies , again, to you all, but I had forgotten to turn it off the last > time I posted to the boc-l list. Sorry! But its going to take some getting > used to the ONLY non RFC 822 compliant newsgroup server (LISTSERV) that I've > subscribed to. Ah - well this is the Hawkwind mailing list after all - so subversive that it even subverts the system designed to subvert the system...... ummm yrs cryptically jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jul 16 14:11:35 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:11:35 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: Come out, come out, wherever you are! In-Reply-To: <378F1CB3.6B9852DD@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Christopher Bruce wrote: => Well folks, the Signature Certificate has raised its ugly head again! My => apologies , again, to you all, but I had forgotten to turn it off the last => time I posted to the boc-l list. Sorry! But its going to take some getting => used to the ONLY non RFC 822 compliant newsgroup server (LISTSERV) that I've In what way is it non-RFC 822 compliant? => These Certificates are becoming more common every day, so be prepared for => someone elses posts and update either your browser or get LISTSERV to stop => adding tabs to the headers. (It would save disc space, too, albeit a tiny => amount, but it adds up at 40+ boc-l posts a day!) IMHO, if your signature applies to the body *and* headers of your outgoing message, then *IT* is broken. Because a digital signature explicitly identifies the originator, it is redundant to sign the headers also---especially in view of the fact that RFCs allow for mailers freely to rewrite headers, especially gateway mailers (e.g. going from UUCP-style addresses to canonical FQDNs, etc.). (Analogously, a notary public does not notarize the envelope in which you send the notarized document.) Of course, many mail transport agents are only 7-bit clean, and so signing (which is fundamentally a bit-oriented hash) for text (with its many variant EOL encodings, etc.) is on dodgy ground at the best of times if you want everyone to be able to check its validity... => Once more, my profuse apologies, and if anyone is reading this, => could you tell the rest its OK to come out of their bomb shelters => and read my posts? :) I've never had a problem with any of your posts, Chris. Keep 'em coming! Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Fri Jul 16 15:16:00 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 14:16:00 -0500 Subject: HW: New releases Message-ID: Hi folks! I think I saw someone may have already purchased one or some of the new re-releases at a local CD shop? I just wanted to ask if these 7 re-releases are on the EBS label or Castle? I saw on CD Zone they are listed as EBS part numbers. Can someone confirm or correct that? I'm refering to the CD's I just listed on my "99 Releases" page at Hawkman Music, two weeks ago. Thanks! Stephan From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Sat Jul 17 01:44:20 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 14:44:20 +0900 Subject: OFF: Afro Celt Sound System Message-ID: If you go to IMVS.com, AFCC CDs are half price right now. NP: AFCC - Released Randy wrote: > >>>> > > From: Chris Warburton > Subject: HW: reissues > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > I strolled in to Our Price (please don't laugh - we only have two disc > shops) here in (not so) sunny Burton today, having finally got my dole > > cheque, in search of the latest Afro-Celt Sound System album. > > <<<< > > If you want to get them mail order i noticed that CDNow (http://www.cdnow.com) > has Afro-Celt Sound System CD's > > Randy -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From flossbac at NLCI.COM Sat Jul 17 10:40:39 1999 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 09:40:39 -0500 Subject: Ozrics Chicago: tickets available? Message-ID: Darn!!! I foolishly waited until yesterday to go buy a ticket for Ozric Tentacles at the House of Blues in Chicago for this Sunday July 18, and was told that the show is SOLD OUT! I couldn't believe it! Does anyone by any strange chance know where I might still be able to get a ticket? I've never been to the House of Blues, so I'm wondering if the club maintains some tickets to be sold at the door, after all ticketmaster tickets have sold. Or does anyone have an extra? John Majka flossbac at nlci.com From flossbac at NLCI.COM Sat Jul 17 14:03:57 1999 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 13:03:57 -0500 Subject: Nik Turner in IL Message-ID: Howdy gang, does anyone have information about Nik Turner playing at J. J. Kelley's in Lansing IL sometime soon? I'm looking for the date, time, price etc. if anyone knows. John Majka flossbac at nlci.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Jul 17 14:43:16 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 19:43:16 +0100 Subject: OFF: Bee Gees? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Jul 1999 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > 30-some odd years ago, there would these boxes of, like, 20 cutout singles > for $1.98, and amongst the dross* on one occasion was "any christian > lion-hearted man will show you" by the pre-disco bros. gibb. Sudden echoes in my mind produced, "Any Major Dude Will Tell You", which has got to be better than Bee Gees, even before disco. Hasn't it? Yours, Jon P.S. ObPseudoHW: the band in question took their name from a book by William Burroughs, who owned an orgone accumulator. So don't you be accusing me of irrelevance :-) From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Sat Jul 17 15:45:29 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 14:45:29 -0500 Subject: OFF: Iron Maiden in Boston! Message-ID: Yessir gonna go see Iron Maiden at the Orpheum tomorrow, the 18th of July! That'll learn 'em. From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sat Jul 17 15:06:21 1999 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 14:06:21 -0500 Subject: OFF: APOCALYPTICA Message-ID: Just came across mention of this group while surfing. The sound clips aren't bad. Anyone have this or would recommend it? Really like "Symphonic Led Zeppelin" as well http://www.polygram-us.com/kashmir/ produced by Jaz Coleman and Youth of Killing Joke Don't want to turn Hawkwind or BOC into "muzak" just yet ;-) but some of these interpretations seem kind of interesting . . . APOCALYPTICA Albums: Plays Metallica By Four Cellos (Zen Garden/Mercury 1996). INQUISITION SYMPHONY PGD/POLYGRAM Released Sep 22 1998. A highly unusual development even by the esoteric standards of Finland's popular music industry, Apocalyptica comprise four classically-trained cellists from the Sibelius Academy in Helsinki who interpret heavy metal classics. Their debut album consisted entirely of Metallica songs - and was not, apparently, intended as a joke. Instead, the quartet attempted to recreate the urgency and bombast of such Metallica standards as 'Enter Sandman' and 'Master Of Puppets' by re-arranging them for cello. The group, founded by Eicca Toppinen, Max Lilja, Antero Manninen and Paavo Lotjonen, were drawn together because of what Toppinen describes as 'our love of metal. We wanted to see how metal would work classically, and I especially wanted to try Metallica songs, as they've been a favourite of mine for more than 10 years.' The group was founded in 1993, playing a number of acoustic shows before graduating to an amplified show at a Helsinki hard rock club in the early months of 1996. The idea to record their set was the result of an approach by audience member Kari Hunninen, now the group's manager, who took them to his Mercury Records' subsidiary label, Zen Garden. After the album's release, Apocalyptica achieved another of their dreams when they became support band to Metallica's two shows in Helsinki in November 1996. From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jul 17 15:22:08 1999 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 20:22:08 +0100 Subject: OFF: Testing Message-ID: I'm just trying out a new mail address so if this message carries any wierd code packages or screws up anyone's system could they let me know. I will have absolutely no idea how to fix it but I'll do whatever I can! Also is it netiqually acceptable to post to this list from two separate addresses at the same time? Well not at exactly the same time but if I use one during the day and one at night would that be allowed? I don't see anything in the constitution to gainsay it but I guess it's assumed that most folk don't want to read through TWO lots of BOC-L mail every day! However if it's not proper please let me know! ta jill From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Jul 17 16:31:53 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 16:31:53 -0400 Subject: OFF: Testing In-Reply-To: <3790D7E0.8F5B0950@theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: On Sat, 17 Jul 1999, Jill (Strobridge???) wrote: => Also is it netiqually acceptable to post to this list from two separate => addresses at the same time? Well not at exactly the same time but if => I use one during the day and one at night would that be allowed? I => don't see anything in the constitution to gainsay it but I guess it's => assumed that most folk don't want to read through TWO lots of BOC-L mail => every day! I don't see why not. I think I am (or used to be) subscribed under other accounts set to NOMAIL so I could post from them. Cheers, Paul. NP: Fairport Convention, _What We Did On Our Holidays_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jul 17 21:55:24 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 01:55:24 GMT Subject: OFF: Testing In-Reply-To: <3790D7E0.8F5B0950@theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 20:22:08 +0100, you wrote: >I'm just trying out a new mail address so if this message carries any >wierd code packages or screws up anyone's system could they let me know. >I will >have absolutely no idea how to fix it but I'll do whatever I can! Agent usually includes any xtra crap at the bottom as an attachment, and i don't see any here so i guess everything's a-ok :) andrew From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Jul 17 23:42:22 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 23:42:22 EDT Subject: OFF: Bee Gees? Message-ID: In a message dated 7/17/99 2:43:37 PM, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: <<> 30-some odd years ago, there would these boxes of, like, 20 cutout singles > for $1.98, and amongst the dross* on one occasion was "any christian > lion-hearted man will show you" by the pre-disco bros. gibb. Sudden echoes in my mind produced, "Any Major Dude Will Tell You", which has got to be better than Bee Gees, even before disco. Hasn't it? Yours, Jon ===== i dinna say naught to suggest the BG'S tune was any good, mind yiz, just that it showed up in me head after being awake for 30 hours (grin) and i do believe the song that appeared in yr own head played off of t'other, at least in title....t'other being one of several drippy late '60s BG songs they were so fond of doing at that time; not quite as drippy as "holiday" though, which i tink was the a-side. ====== <> ====== burroughs had an orgone accumulator? what does one do w/it? stick one's head in it? no, i'm not joking, isnt that how such a device is utilized? but being as i knows the band in question, the book in question, and the namesake implement in question (grin), we can see who else amongst us does, and many likely do. "<>" From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Sun Jul 18 00:04:15 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 23:04:15 -0500 Subject: HW: Vinyl Collectors Corner Message-ID: Hi Folks! Just wanted to let you know Hawkman Music is offering a new service in our never ending quest to bring the Hawkwind Community closer. The "Vinyl Collectors Corner" is for people looking for, or wanting to get rid of Vinyl records. I hope you all take advantage of this free service. If you own a web page, I'd appreciate putting a link to my page, so fans can find me. I'll do so in turn, just let me know who you are. Thanks, Stephan From asg at LAGUNA.COM.MX Sun Jul 18 01:28:36 1999 From: asg at LAGUNA.COM.MX (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:28:36 -0500 Subject: OFF: APOCALYPTICA Message-ID: >Just came across mention of this group while surfing. The sound clips >aren't bad. > >Anyone have this or would recommend it? I don't have the album, but I've seen two videos from this band, for "Harmageddon" and "Nothing else matters" - both were instrumental, the second being a Metallica cover. Both excellent. IMHO. I find this band quite impressive. They only use cellos, and yet their music sounds very 'metallic', if you know what I mean - and not just the Metallica cover, even that "Harmageddon" track sounds like hard rock. Very odd. Alex. --------------------------------------------------- Read the Icarus Encyclopedia of Fantasy & SF - http://www.noosfere.com/ (in French) - http://www.noosfere.com/icarus/homepage.htm (in English) Music videos : members.xoom.com/agarc/mvdb/ My Web HQ : members.tripod.com/~Mandor/ --------------------------------------------------- From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sun Jul 18 10:41:23 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:41:23 +0000 Subject: OFF: Bee Gees? In-Reply-To: <65a98de5.24c2a71e@aol.com> Message-ID: As usual (esp. at weekends) timelag leaves me behind At 23:42 17/07/99 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 7/17/99 2:43:37 PM, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: > ><<> 30-some odd years ago, there would these boxes of, like, 20 cutout singles >> for $1.98, and amongst the dross* on one occasion was "any christian >> lion-hearted man will show you" by the pre-disco bros. gibb. > > Sudden echoes in my mind produced, "Any Major Dude Will Tell You", >which has got to be better than Bee Gees, even before disco. Hasn't it? >Yours, > Jon Hell of a conceptual leap, but I guess it scans similarly... >===== >i dinna say naught to suggest the BG'S tune was any good, mind yiz, just that >it showed up in me head after being awake for 30 hours (grin) > And even I'm awed by the capacity for music trivia on display here... > >and i do believe the song that appeared in yr own head played off of t'other, >at least in title....t'other being one of several drippy late '60s BG songs >they were so fond of doing at that time; not quite as drippy as "holiday" >though, which i tink was the a-side. > I think I'm relieved to be completely unfamiliar with this stuff, though I did once watch "Cucumber Castle", but only to see the live footage of Blind Faith!!!!! >====== ><William Burroughs, who owned an orgone accumulator. So don't you be >accusing me of irrelevance :-)>> >====== >burroughs had an orgone accumulator? what does one do w/it? stick one's head >in it? no, i'm not joking, isnt that how such a device is utilized? > Sit in it if you make a full size one. The other thing (apparently) is to keep your stash in one to "potentiate" it. Maybe even better if you make it pyramid shaped and put it at the focus!?!?!?! > >but being as i knows the band in question, the book in question, and the >namesake implement in question (grin), we can see who else amongst us does, >and many likely do. > Well, I'm a bit of a "Nightfly" and I'm "never going back to my old school", "I've never met Napoleon, but I plan to do some time". When I'm done "Reelin' in the years" "I'll go back, Jack, do it again" etc. etc... ChrisW With a Goodbye Look unitil I see you at the Teahouse On The Tracks From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sun Jul 18 10:43:07 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:43:07 +0000 Subject: OFF: APOCALYPTICA In-Reply-To: <3790D42D.9D077D88@execpc.com> Message-ID: At 14:06 17/07/99 -0500, you wrote: > >APOCALYPTICA >Albums: Plays Metallica By Four Cellos (Zen Garden/Mercury 1996). >INQUISITION SYMPHONY PGD/POLYGRAM Released Sep 22 1998. > I don't see why it shouldn't work, cf. Kronos Quartet's "Purple Haze" and Concert Impromptu's Zappa reworkings.. ChrisW From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Jul 18 11:32:14 1999 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 08:32:14 PDT Subject: OFF: Bee Gees? Message-ID: You guys are f**ked up. No, seriously, what is this Orgone Accumulator? How does it make one feel greater? Where can I get one of these cerebral vibrators? Enquiring minds NEED to know. C. > >====== > >burroughs had an orgone accumulator? what does one do w/it? stick one's >head > >in it? no, i'm not joking, isnt that how such a device is utilized? > > >Sit in it if you make a full size one. The other thing (apparently) is to >keep your stash in one to "potentiate" it. Maybe even better if you make >it pyramid shaped and put it at the focus!?!?!?! > > > >but being as i knows the band in question, the book in question, and the > >namesake implement in question (grin), we can see who else amongst us >does, > >and many likely do. > > >Well, I'm a bit of a "Nightfly" and I'm "never going back to my old >school", "I've never met Napoleon, but I plan to do some time". When I'm >done "Reelin' in the years" "I'll go back, Jack, do it again" etc. etc... > >ChrisW >With a Goodbye Look unitil I see you at the Teahouse On The Tracks > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jul 18 11:57:49 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 16:57:49 +0100 Subject: OFF: APOCALYPTICA In-Reply-To: <199907180528.AAA03007@LAGUNA-01.laguna.com.mx> Message-ID: On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Alex S. Garcia wrote: > I find this band quite impressive. They only use cellos, and yet their music > sounds very 'metallic', if you know what I mean - and not just the Metallica > cover, even that "Harmageddon" track sounds like hard rock. Very odd. Concur - they have more attack than a lot of rock bands and arguably do Metallica better than Metallica do these days... But let's not get into that one, eh? :-) Yours, Jon From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Jul 18 11:58:40 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 16:58:40 +0100 Subject: OFF: Bee Gees? In-Reply-To: <19990718153214.75574.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: > > > > > >but being as i knows the band in question, the book in > question, and the > > >namesake implement in question (grin), we can see who else amongst us > >does, > > >and many likely do. Steam-driven dildo was what I was told. Course whoever told me might have been pulling my leg. > > > > >Well, I'm a bit of a "Nightfly" and I'm "never going back to my old > >school", "I've never met Napoleon, but I plan to do some time". When I'm > >done "Reelin' in the years" "I'll go back, Jack, do it again" etc. etc... > > > >ChrisW > >With a Goodbye Look unitil I see you at the Teahouse On The Tracks > > Just don't lose that number. And don't do it without the fez on! :) --Andy BTW ChrisW, you have to see Godspeed You Black Emperor! one of these days. Right up your alley I'd reckon. They were blinding on Thursday. And Friday. ObCD: Holy Curse - _Hereafter_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jul 18 12:09:17 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 17:09:17 +0100 Subject: OFF: Bee Gees? In-Reply-To: <65a98de5.24c2a71e@aol.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > and i do believe the song that appeared in yr own head played off of t'other, > at least in title....t'other being one of several drippy late '60s BG songs > they were so fond of doing at that time; not quite as drippy as "holiday" > though, which i tink was the a-side. I did wonder if there might be any connection, since the band in question (whom I hesitate to mention not so much to irritate as protect myself from any ridicule that might accrue when it came out that I woned all their albums before I had _any_ BOC or HW (so they went and released another, pfah)) were not averse to the odd spot of ironic rip-off... So I am enlightened, thankyou... > ====== > < William Burroughs, who owned an orgone accumulator. So don't you be > accusing me of irrelevance :-)>> > ====== > burroughs had an orgone accumulator? what does one do w/it? stick one's head > in it? no, i'm not joking, isnt that how such a device is utilized? Well, I learnt it on this list, so it must be true... I believe he had a man-szed one in which he used to sit and top up his orgone energy levels resulting in enhanced feelings of well-being and general friskiness, but I go from memory only... > but being as i knows the band in question, the book in question, and the > namesake implement in question (grin), we can see who else amongst us does, > and many likely do. Daniel Steele, outre Daniel, ... ;-) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jul 18 12:10:14 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 17:10:14 +0100 Subject: OFF: Bee Gees? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990718144123.007b3cc0@clara.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 18 Jul 1999, Chris Warburton wrote: > Well, I'm a bit of a "Nightfly" and I'm "never going back to my old > school", "I've never met Napoleon, but I plan to do some time". When I'm > done "Reelin' in the years" "I'll go back, Jack, do it again" etc. etc... > > ChrisW > With a Goodbye Look unitil I see you at the Teahouse On The Tracks ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ooh. That's better than me even, I haven't got the last one... Yours, Jon (here at the western world) P.S. I didn't expect there to be so many of us about here :-) From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Jul 18 12:12:05 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:12:05 EDT Subject: OFF: Bee Gees? Message-ID: In a message dated 7/18/99 11:58:37 AM, Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: following what DASLUD writ: < > >namesake implement in question (grin), we can see who else amongst us > >does, > > >and many likely do. Steam-driven dildo was what I was told. Course whoever told me might have been pulling my leg. >> ==== i dont recall the "steam-driven" aspect, but indeed, from NEKKID LUNCH...and while i did read a bunch of burroughs, twice i began that book, (about 20 years apart), and gave up twice.."why am i subjecting myself to this?" i axed myself. them of sterner stuff would be in for a helluva hellacious, um, trip though... "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Jul 18 12:27:50 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:27:50 EDT Subject: OFF: Bee Gees? Message-ID: In a message dated 7/18/99 12:09:46 PM, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: << > and i do believe the song that appeared in yr own head played off of t'other, > at least in title....t'other being one of several drippy late '60s BG songs > they were so fond of doing at that time; not quite as drippy as "holiday" > though, which i tink was the a-side. I did wonder if there might be any connection, since the band in question (whom I hesitate to mention not so much to irritate as protect myself from any ridicule that might accrue when it came out that I owned all their albums before I had _any_ BOC or HW (so they went and released another, pfah)) were not averse to the odd spot of ironic rip-off... So I am enlightened, thankyou... > ======>> funny...this band who cannot be named earned much scorn from me in my more overtly punque days, but now i, um, respect them...though they did sorta overdose on getting things too perfect in the studio as time went on, at least ACTUAL SONGS were involved... and as i didnt die before i got old, i similarly had to revise my opinion of yes, realizing they had to go in the studio and actually PLAY their mostly-still-irritating compositions, which couldna been easy... "<>" From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Sun Jul 18 12:29:04 1999 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 02:29:04 +1000 Subject: OFF: Bee Gees? Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Horse Whisperer To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 1:32 AM Subject: Re: OFF: Bee Gees? > No, seriously, what is this Orgone Accumulator? It was invented by the slightly lacking in the sanity department pseudo-theoriest Willhem(sp?) Reich. It is more or less a box made up of several layers of different materials, the most important being the central layer which should be soil, or some such organic material. I've got plans for it lying somewhere around here, which I can dig up if necessary. > How does it make one feel greater? Reich's theory was that there were this energy which he call Orgone, that was some kind of life force or something. There was also something to do with UFOs in his theorys, but I can't remember much about it now. Whatever it was actually meant to *be*, it could be focused with these boxes. You'd sit in the box and all of the orgones would seep into you. It was meant to do things ranging from rejuvinate and revitalise, inspire all the way to curing cancer. > Where can I get one of these cerebral vibrators? They're pretty easy to make, with the necessary materials. Why someone would want to, I don't know. You can buy them, too, I believe. Probably a search for Burroughs in the web would yield some results. More worthwhile that the orgone accumulator, and still associated with Burroughs, is the Dream Machine (invented by Bryon Gysin), which brings on LSD-like visual experiences. Unlike the accumulator, this is something that does work. Max Wilcox From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Sun Jul 18 12:42:28 1999 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 02:42:28 +1000 Subject: OFF: Memory Loss Hawklords vinyl Message-ID: Sorry to post this to the list. Would the person who sent me the Hawklords vinyl a couple of months ago please mail me, as I lost all of my archived mail and thus all record of our correspondence. Again, sorry for wasting everybody else's time... Max Wilcox From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jul 18 13:02:42 1999 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:02:42 +0100 Subject: OFF: Orgone-zone Message-ID: Horse Whisperer wrote: > > You guys are f**ked up. > > No, seriously, what is this Orgone Accumulator? > How does it make one feel greater? > Where can I get one of these cerebral vibrators? > > Enquiring minds NEED to know. > > C. > Has somebody got a copy of the FAQ Reich file to hand? My copy is on the other system! jill From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jul 18 13:25:58 1999 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:25:58 +0100 Subject: OFF: Memory Loss Hawklords vinyl Message-ID: Max Wilcox wrote: > > Sorry to post this to the list. Would the person who sent me the > Hawklords vinyl a couple of months ago please mail me, as I lost all of my > archived mail and thus all record of our correspondence. > Again, sorry for wasting everybody else's time... > > Max Wilcox That might have been me - although I don't recall what it was I sent now! cheers jill From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Jul 18 16:27:44 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 16:27:44 EDT Subject: OFF: Space Does Not Care set-list Message-ID: "Space Does Not Care", hosted by Chuck, every Sat. at 7pm PST on 88.3 KUCR. 7/17/99: Melting Euphoria--Daisychain of Thoughts Hawkwind--Do That/The Day a Wall Came Down (Business Trip) F/i--Boots of Ascention Gong--You Can't Kill Me (Camembert Electrique) Orb--Plateau (Live '93) Faust--Devoted Bone Dance Sundial--Other Side Zappa/Mothers--Inca Roads (One Size Fits All) Blue Oyster Cult--Tattoo Vampire Amon Duul II--Yeti Talks to Yogi Puff Tube--Quark, Strangeness & Charm Ozric Tentacles--Sploosh! Doors--My Wild Love Hawkwind--Over the Top Pressurehed--Time Slip Brainticket--One Morning Nik Turner--Horus (Sphynx) Thanks, Chuck From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Jul 18 17:35:05 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:35:05 +0100 Subject: HW: Books About Hawkwind In-Reply-To: <19990714201722.IARA4954@nl-hello> Message-ID: A couple of "my" old HW clippings have made it onto hawkwind.com - a rreview of the first album, and a very early band interview (Huw was stil with them, the first time round!); and I've got lots more where that came from, including a super Calvert interview from 1973. When he was staying at the Dorchester, yet. --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Jul 18 18:08:50 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:08:50 +0100 Subject: HW: Books About Hawkwind In-Reply-To: <008301bece5c$cdf74500$052aa8c0@Daddy.Family> Message-ID: Here's the Calvert interview from Melody Maker, 4th August 1973. There's also a super photo of Bob, looking elegant indeed (although seeing as it was the seventies, the lapels are fairly sinful). (This is of course where Knut says it's already on the Spirit of the Page site :) Take me to the pilot -------------------- When the moon broke away from the earth they continued to be related. When Bob Calvert broke away from Hawkwind they continued to be related. Indeed Bob is partially responsible for Hawkwind's current single. Besides his work with Hawkwind, this strange earthling has been busy creating and developing "Captain Lockheed And The Starfighters," a play with music that looks like becoming highly controversial. Looking incredibly un-Hawkwindish in suit, short hair, rolled umbrella and staying at the Dorchester Hotel, Park Lane, Bob Calvert in his own dynamic, extrovert way talked to me about his latest project. "Although I'm known as a poet and songwriter, it's been my ambition to become a playwright. Since I was a young boy I've always wanted to be connected with aircraft, ideally as an 'Ace'. "I've grown up of the Starfighter lets, which have accounted for the lives of many young pilots. It has become so much a part of me that I've had to write about it in order to get it out of my system." At the moment Bob has a single, "Captain Lockheed And The Starfighters," out on release and it looks like becoming a hit, with over 10,000 sold in its first week of release. Two tracks "Ejection" and "Catch A Falling Starfighter" have Hawkwind voyagers Nik Turner (sax), Lemmy (bass) and Simon King (drums), with former Pink Fairy Twink doing his bit on percussion. Dr. Technical is also there, figuring in production. "It would be nice for the record to be a hit, but I'm not really bothered about it. What concerns me is getting the play staged at somewhere like the Roundhouse. I want it to be a theatrical event in the true sense. Like those in the Elizabethan era. Not like one of Alice Cooper's egotistical displays, which in spite of what people say, is nothing to do with theatrics. "The story is a true one about the German Airforce under the direction of Joseph Strauss, who allegedly for political gain revitalised it with seven hundred Starfighter jets. As we know many of them have crashed, giving them names like 'jinx-jets', and 'widow makers.' A more popular name now is 'flying coffins.' "The play is a comical tragedy - it's a good way to put across a heavy idea, although 159 crashed jets is no joke." So much energy has been injected into the play, Calvert's work with Hawkwind has had to be limited. He's an extremely fragile person, who has been regularly ill from the pressures of being on the road with the band. If the record takes-off, or in true Starfighter tradition crashes into the charts, Calvert won't take a band on the road under the name of Captain Lockheed "I've a tendency to be manic-depressive and the thought of not having regular sleep and meals is too much for me to take. What I'm planning is to stage the play at somewhere like the Roundhouse. A concept album will also follow. "People like Viv Stanshall, Keith Moon, Neil Innes, Arthur Brown - who'll be the gremlin and perhaps Jim Capaldi will all be doing something towards the production. Being a hypo-manic and consequently having mental disturbances means that I need to be settled in one place at a time and by staging the Play, I'll be able to do just that." A space poet from the planet Margate, Calvert has featured intermittently in the success of Hawkwind. He wrote their hugely successful, "Silver Machine," and conceived the idea for their "Space Ritual" album. "Writing hit singles is a matter of luck. I believe I could write hits on purpose, but I don't want to because it wouldn't be satisfying. Financially I'm quite comfortable and the only reason I might want to have more money would be to improve the theatre situation in Britain. I'd dearly like to see it back to Elizabethan times." When I questioned him about staying at the Dorchester, he told me: "I'm going through an elegant phase at the moment. Clean shirts and things feel good and up-lift me. Unfortunately my life-style is governed by being a manic-depressive. "For instance, when I wrote the Captain Lockheed play, I started it by sitting on the old hulk of a boat lying in a cove in Cornwall. It just looked like the remains of a crashed aircraft and just being near it helped me to relate to what I was trying to do. I completed it in Morocco at a time when I was feeling very depressed." For Hawkwind, Calvert can see a more theatrical future and for himself nothing more than being a writer. If his play flops, it won?t worry him. "You can't expect everybody to like everything you do - that would be selfish. Besides I'll have another project to work on by that time." Michael Benton ? Melody Maker - UK 4/8/73 --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Sun Jul 18 18:40:50 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:40:50 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind at Eclipse festival in Cornwall Message-ID: Hello, I now have details of Hawkwind private party in Cornwall. Anyone who is interested please e-mail for further info on the Mission Control e-mail. (you know what it is!) See you all soon Kris From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Sun Jul 18 19:35:23 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:35:23 +0100 Subject: HW: Gig at Newcastle Mayfair Message-ID: Hello, Hawkwind have been approached to play the final gig at Newcastle Upon Tyne Mayfair (which is going to be knocked down). Ozzy Osbourne has also been approached. Thje management can not make a decision. If there is enough interest in Hawkwind, we will get to play! Phone the Mayfair and ask for Hawkwind! Similar situation in Edinburgh on 28th August. We need to have our voices heard. Kris From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jul 18 20:53:05 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:53:05 GMT Subject: OFF: Bee Gees? In-Reply-To: <19990718153214.75574.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: >No, seriously, what is this Orgone Accumulator? >How does it make one feel greater? >Where can I get one of these cerebral vibrators? > >Enquiring minds NEED to know. there's no better startin place imo than http://orgone.org for stuff about Reich generally and http://orgone.org/orgonacc00.htm for stuff about accumulators specifically (incl. how to build/buy one etc) andrew Gouts of blood! Kill all the squares! - The Cramps From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jul 18 21:01:27 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 01:01:27 GMT Subject: OFF: Bee Gees? In-Reply-To: <37927633.36715866@smtp.freeserve.net> Message-ID: http://orgone.org for stuff >about Reich generally and http://orgone.org/orgonacc00.htm for stuff >about accumulators specifically (incl. how to build/buy one etc) and whilst treading dangerous waters http://www.disinfo.com usually has some, um, interesting links andrew Gouts of blood! Kill all the squares! - The Cramps From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Jul 18 20:27:26 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 20:27:26 -0400 Subject: HW/OFF: Aural Innovations #7 Message-ID: Hi Folks... I hope you'll forgive me for the bit of self-promotion...but for those interested in spacerock, psychedelic, and electronic music (and who isn't?) :) I hope it's relevant! So here goes our announcement. 64 pages this time. Review of Dawn of Hawkwind, and interviews with Spacehead, and an article about SF poetry in music, including Calvert and Moorcock. Keith H. (FAA) P.S. To all the folks on other similar lists who receive duplicate copies of this announcement, sorry for the redundancy!! I hope you'll be patient with us. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Issue #7 of Aural Innovations: The Global Source For SpaceRock Exploration is ready! Aural Innovations is a quarterly maga'zine' of band profiles, interviews, and reviews with a focus on Space Rock, but also including psych, ambient, and various electronics. Issue #7 includes... Porcupine Tree (review/interview) Mushroom (review/(interview) Spacehead (review/interview) Mandragora (interview) Nukli (interview) Claus Bohling's Elektrum (interview) Channel/Phoebe Cates (review/interview) Circle (interview) Kraftwerk (profile/interview) Shamen (profile/interview) An Introduction To Sci Fi Poetry (article) SpaceRock For The Novice Musician (article) ProgFest '99 (Review) NEARfest '99 (Review) Camp Buzz 6 Festival (Review) Two Ohm Hop (Label Profile) Record Heaven (Label Profile) The SpaceRock Crossword Puzzle Plus LOTS of REVIEWS!!!!! For ordering information visit the Aural Innovations home page at http://www.infinet.com/~jkranitz/space/space.html or email jkranitz at infinet.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sun Jul 18 22:49:06 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 22:49:06 -0400 Subject: HW: Gig at Newcastle Mayfair In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, XXX wrote: => Hawkwind have been approached to play the final gig at Newcastle Upon Tyne => Mayfair (which is going to be knocked down). Ozzy Osbourne has also been Jeez Louise! They're KNOCKING DOWN THE MAYFAIR!?!?!? When did this happen? First Manny's Car Wash in NY, now the Mayfair. Surely this is sign of the apocalypse?... ;-) Cheers, Paul. NP: Ozric Tentacles, _Waterfall Cities_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From tclark at PETRONET.NET Mon Jul 19 00:30:53 1999 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:30:53 -0500 Subject: OFF: Space Does Not Care set-list Message-ID: OK!....sounds great!...whattasetlist!....But Hey! I Do Care ! Since I'm not a DJ, and live in the sticks of Louisiana, and the most adventurous they get here on the radio is to play bands like Weezer, is this going to eventually be available on the net as a webcast for us people that reside in BumF%$# Egypt? TC huck Rosenberg wrote: > "Space Does Not Care", hosted by Chuck, every Sat. at 7pm PST on 88.3 KUCR. > > 7/17/99: > > Melting Euphoria--Daisychain of Thoughts > Hawkwind--Do That/The Day a Wall Came Down (Business Trip) > F/i--Boots of Ascention > Gong--You Can't Kill Me (Camembert Electrique) > Orb--Plateau (Live '93) > Faust--Devoted Bone Dance > Sundial--Other Side > Zappa/Mothers--Inca Roads (One Size Fits All) > Blue Oyster Cult--Tattoo Vampire > Amon Duul II--Yeti Talks to Yogi > Puff Tube--Quark, Strangeness & Charm > Ozric Tentacles--Sploosh! > Doors--My Wild Love > Hawkwind--Over the Top > Pressurehed--Time Slip > Brainticket--One Morning > Nik Turner--Horus (Sphynx) > > Thanks, Chuck -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: tclark.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 342 bytes Desc: Card for Tom Clark URL: From sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI Mon Jul 19 01:43:39 1999 From: sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI (Santeri Laakso) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:43:39 +0300 Subject: HW: T/shirts and general merchandise In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi! I would love to have most of them... Santtu On Fri, 2 Jul 1999, XXX wrote: > Hello! > > Would anyone be interested in me reissuing back Hawkwind tour shirts going > back to about 1984. If so which ones would be worth doing......any > requests???? > > Kris > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jul 19 06:47:26 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:47:26 +0100 Subject: HW: Gig at Newcastle Mayfair In-Reply-To: XXX's message of Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:35:23 +0100 Message-ID: XXX writes: > Hello, > > Hawkwind have been approached to play the final gig at Newcastle Upon Tyne > Mayfair (which is going to be knocked down). Ozzy Osbourne has also been > approached. Thje management can not make a decision. If there is enough > interest in Hawkwind, we will get to play! Phone the Mayfair and ask for > Hawkwind! > Similar situation in Edinburgh on 28th August. We need to have our voices > heard. What do you need done in Edinburgh? Do ytou want folks to phone the Flux people and ask for you guys to play? Let me know, and I'll organise a phone in :-) > Kris FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jul 19 06:50:56 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 11:50:56 +0100 Subject: HW: Gig at Newcastle Mayfair In-Reply-To: XXX's message of Mon, 19 Jul 1999 00:35:23 +0100 Message-ID: XXX writes: > Hello, > > Hawkwind have been approached to play the final gig at Newcastle Upon Tyne > Mayfair (which is going to be knocked down). Ozzy Osbourne has also been > approached. Thje management can not make a decision. If there is enough > interest in Hawkwind, we will get to play! Phone the Mayfair and ask for > Hawkwind! > Similar situation in Edinburgh on 28th August. We need to have our voices > heard. Another thought about Edinburgh. One of my drinking buddies is the science fiction reviewer for the Scotsman (one of the two leading Scottish newspapers and therefore widely read in Edinburgh). If someone in the band were willing to do an interview based, say on Hawkwind's SF connection then we might just have time to get a plug into the newspapers. If someone will do an interview, even by email, then let me know and I'll try to set it up with Andrew. > Kris Cheers Mike From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Mon Jul 19 08:28:42 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 08:28:42 -0400 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 16 Jul 1999 to 17 Jul 1999 Message-ID: > I have just found a BOC CD called Revisited from 1996 - the review > states that: > > Blue Oyster Cult's Revisited is a collection of re-recordings of such > songs as (Don't Fear) the Reaper, Godzilla, Transmaniacon MC, Hot > Rails to Hell and In Thee. The performances are competent, but never > distinctive, making this of marginal interest even to hardcore fans. > ( Stephen Thomas Erlewine, All-Music Guide) > > Has anyone got this? Is this 're-recordings' in the same way as Cult > Classic or is this just another bog-standard compilation? I have it -- it's a Sony compilation slapped together a year after Workshop of the Telescopes came out -- no re-recordings, no re-mastering. See the FAQ for a track listing and misc. info. > > Does anyone know a reliable source for the St. Cecilia album on CD? Well, there are no "official" St. Cecilia CDs. There is a CD floating around called "Dharma for Buck" - rumor has it that it may be an actual boot, but there are apparently a number of CD-R copies around -- I see this title being auctioned off on Ebay (www.ebay.com) fairly frequently, and going for up to around $50. I'm working to get my hands on one, and will provide more info if I do. This CD was originally produced by someone who is not very familiar with the band -- the track titles are all wrong (e.g. "Kilburn County", "Nope is What I Hope", and others), but also includes some live BOC tracks from '75/'76 (presumably off of a King Biscuit broadcast or two). The "St. Cecilia" bootleg vinyl has the correct titles, and does not have the live BOC tracks, but rather has 3 tracks recorded by the Stalk-Forrest Group some time in between the recording of the actual Elektra demo and the first official BOC album. When I get the FAQ updated, more of this will be explained it there. John From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Mon Jul 19 09:34:07 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:34:07 +0000 Subject: Off: Jim Carroll In-Reply-To: <199902111617.QAA09682@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Given that there was a little discussion opn this guy recently, I thought I'd share this passage from Rock Scully's (somewhat scurrilous) "Living With The Dead" that I've just been reading. It's September 1974, and a guy (crazed dope-fiend?) called Tom Salter has convinced the Dead to do 3 nights at Alexandra Palace in London:- ============================================================ September 5. Band members start Coming in early. Where's the party, man? Jerry, Billy, Bobby ? they've heard about the madness going on at Tom's house and can't wait to get through customs and check out the scene. I take them right out there from the airport and they don't ever want to leave. I book the band into Blakje's Hotel, but Garcia is over at Tom Salter's from early morning to Late at night. The house has the astonishing name of St. John of Jerusalem and it becomes the Dead's nerve center of operations untile we get offices set up out at the Ally Pally. Night and day, day and night, the party that wouldn't end goes on and on. Jim Carroll of "Basketball Diaries" fame is passed out on the floor of the library; Christine Keeler is sprawled on the couch; Top of the Pops deejay John Peel is curled up on a Jacobean sidetable; the guys from "Private Eye" have taken up residence in the pool room. It is like an immense pub in which all life is represented: deviants, bookies, flacks, starlets, rock dogs, minor aristocracy, assorted wildlife, and babes. The Grateful Dead coming to Londontown begins to seem an event of unparalleled anticipation ? like the arrival of Halley's Comet. This Ally Pally thing is starting to heat up big time. And in the general atmosphere of reckless camaraderie and stimulants, it all starts to swirl. ============================================================ Spot the deliberate mistake (just kidding): I'm pretty sure that Peel didn't have anything to do with TOTP until sometime in the post-punk period. Scully also talks about a side trip that he, Garcia & Weir made to the "One Word, One World Poetry Convention" in Amsterdam in '81. Big edits here, 'coz the whole thing is about 3 pages. Starting from having received the invitation: ================================= 'Hey, Jerry, want to go to Amsterdam, go meet William Burroughs, Jim Carroll?' 'Jim Carroll, the "Basketball Diaries" guy?' >--snip--< At this point it's just Jerry and me. I don't even ask weir. I don't think he'll want to go, and I want to make this jauntas simple as possible. Since I'm trying to be the road manager of this weird tour, I don't feel like carting a bunch of irate musicians along on my day off. But Garcia slips up and tells Weir that we're going to Amsterdam (hash, beatniks, etc.) and Weir wants to go. Weir is always up for escapades of whatever stripe. There's adventure to be had! I think. Anyway, I'm going no matter what, because I want to see Jim Carroll, whom I met last year in New York. >--snip--< Simon Vinkenoop meets us at the airport and takes us into town, to this Gothic little hotel, two old buildings put together. Carroll and Burroughs are staying here, too. Burroughs, in porkpie hat and raincoat, looking like a ghost, is checking out as we arrive. He says the hotel is not seedy enough for him. It makes him nervous. >--snip to later--< The convention is moving over to the Melk Weg (Milky Way) for the musical part of the evening. Jim Carroll's a poet with a rock'n'roll band and he's going to play over there. After the reading he talks Weir and Garcia into playing too. Garcia and Weir have brought tgheir guitars with them (what troupers!) and are totally game ===================================================== Th-th-th-that's all f-f-f-f-folks. The book is overall a good read if you're into the Dead or just general tales of rock mayhem. Cheers, ChrisW From chip at PCC.COM Mon Jul 19 09:15:36 1999 From: chip at PCC.COM (Chip Hart) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:15:36 -0400 Subject: OFF: APOCALYPTICA In-Reply-To: <199907180528.AAA03007@LAGUNA-01.laguna.com.mx> from "Alex S. Garcia" at Jul 18, 99 00:28:36 am Message-ID: > >Just came across mention of this group while surfing. The sound clips > >aren't bad. > > > >Anyone have this or would recommend it? Don't buy it unless you can get it used. It's not that it's bad - it's just that, owning both of their CDs, I haven't listened to them more than a few times. The novelty wears off really quickly. You also learn two things about Metallica very quickly: 1) Indeed, their older stuff DOES rock more (Master of Puppets is the standout, imo). 2) Rock music really is PRIMITIVE when compared to good classic music. Riffs that I thought were tough to play - "One," say - really are nothing compared to what those guys really do for a living. If you slap on the Bach Cello suites after listning to this, you'll get quite a chuckle. -- Chip Hart * chip @ pcc.com Physicians's Computer Company * http://www.pcc.com/~chip 1 Main Street * Work:800-722-7708 Winooski, VT 05404 * Fax: 802-846-8178 From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jul 19 09:24:09 1999 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:24:09 +0100 Subject: OT: Spacey new band Message-ID: Went to see a friend's band the other evening (London, Barfly) and the headlining band was from Iceland, called BellaTrix (sp?) - closest thing to space rock I've seen from a new band in ages - lineup is (female) vocalist/violinist, drums, bass, guitar, guitar/keyboards - almost a classic HW lineup! And anyone who can do a cover of The Final Countdown and make it sound good gets my support... Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jul 19 09:34:35 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 09:34:35 -0400 Subject: OFF: Space Does Not Care set-list Message-ID: Chuck Rosenberg wrote: >> "Space Does Not Care", hosted by Chuck, every Sat. at 7pm PST on 88.3 KUCR. >> >> 7/17/99: Hey, *another* great set of stuff. And then, I just saw this on another list...about 4 hrs. from now, apparently this show will debut. Looks cool. Note: I think SDSU must be San Diego State University, so unless you're in that particular city, best to go online. :) Keith H. (FAA) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From: "poetic terrorist" greetings peepwhole ~ crossposts kick ass! kindly lend thy seasoned, connoiss-ears to my new show, the Ejaculation of Serpents on KCR college radio here at SDSU Monday, July 19th from 12pm-3pm PST, via live streaming real audio from our new-fangled webpage located @: http://www.kcrlive.com from whence eye shall once again be unfurling the heavy handed communal acid-pound psychedelic wyrdfolk tribal sound of primordial insanity & drugged lunacy, somwhere in the bulging veins of the almighty Comus, Amon Duul, Trembling Strain, Six Organs of Admittance, Ghost, Trees, Jan Dukes de Gray, Siloah, the Incredible String Band, Current 93, Fille Qui Mousse, Angels of Light, Sun City Girls, Algarnas Tradgard, Charles Manson, in addition to more trad shite that i'm sure you're all bored with by now, like Sand, Faust, Can, Harmonia, Neu!, Agitation Free, blah, as well a veritable smorgasbord of spacerock, accompanied by some serious tape loop/collage wizardry & finally, the ever-captivating 'unauthorized collaborations' courtesy of DJ Cuddly Wuddly hymn cellph. offended by the crosspost, eh poopstain? well, you're wrong, i'm right, fuck you, let's fight . . . er, after the show. meet you by the monkeybars, be there longhair! jovi* From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Mon Jul 19 10:54:46 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Gekke Henkie) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 16:54:46 +0200 Subject: HW: T/shirts and general merchandise In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Op 19 Jul 99, om 8:43, Santeri Laakso schreef: > Hi! > > I would love to have most of them... wouldn't we all --BArt From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Mon Jul 19 11:45:20 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 16:45:20 +0100 Subject: HW: 2 nights at Brixton with Lemmy Message-ID: According to the August 1998 issue of Mojo, the 'original' lineup of HW are scheduled for 2 nights at the Brixton Academy starting September 4. It claims that several line-ups from throughout HW history will appear. And it's accompanied by a grainy B&W image of full frontal Stacia writhing about on the floor of the stage. NP SFB - "One By One" -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "There's no walls in music. It's like water; there's currents." --Corey Harris From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jul 19 12:05:33 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:05:33 +0100 Subject: Off: Jim Carroll In-Reply-To: Chris Warburton's message of Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:34:07 +0000 Message-ID: Chris Warburton writes: > the floor of the library; Christine Keeler is sprawled on the couch; Top of > the Pops deejay John Peel is curled up on a Jacobean sidetable; the guys > ============================================================ > > Spot the deliberate mistake (just kidding): I'm pretty sure that Peel > didn't have anything to do with TOTP until sometime in the post-punk > period. Scully also talks about a side trip that he, Garcia & Weir made to > the "One Word, One World Poetry Convention" in Amsterdam in '81. Big edits Can't swear to this but John Peel definitely had an extremely interesting Sunday evening (I think) radio show in 1971 (I was listening to it at school so it must have been then) and my suspicion is that all the Radio 1 DJs were required to do television ToTP sessions in rotation so folk could see what they looked like so I think it was unavoidable that he would have had appear at least once, and probably more than that. Could be wrong tho'. I have wierd TV memories - like I'm sure I remember Hawkwind appearing on the Old Grey Whistle test - but that MUST be wrong so I dunno what I'm remembering there! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jul 19 12:12:02 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:12:02 +0100 Subject: HW: Orgone Accumulators and the Reich file (long) Message-ID: Here's the info on William Reich. Names have been included to condemn the innocent 8-) jill ============================================================ WORD/PHRASE : Orgone Accumulator TRACK : Orgone Accumulator ALBUM : Doremi REFERENCE : Invention by Dr Reich From: Paul Mather Subject: Orgone. [long] Stephen Swann writes: > Paul Mather once posted an extended explanation of the historical background > for Orgone. As I recall, a mad (or perhaps crafty) 18th century doctor > claimed that it was a source of physical/spiritual energy and wellbeing that > permeated the atmosphere, albeit rarified. His invention, the "Orgone > Accumulator" was a box which supposedly allowed Orgone to enter, but not to > leave, and so by remaining within the accumulator for extended periods of > time, you would allow a great concentration of Orgone to suffuse your body > and thereby increase your health/strength etc... Mostly right. Sadly I don't have the original posting to hand so here is (a better) one from memory... The 18th century doctor was in fact the 20th century psychiatrist Dr. Willhelm Reich. Reich is quite a remarkable fellow in a tragic sort of way. He ended his life in a US jail, dead of a "broken heart" after his books had been burned and he'd been imprisoned over his life's work, orgone. Reich started his career in Europe where he was born. He worked closely with Freud but had a bust-up with him and ended up moving to the USA to pursue his ideas. Rather like Freud, Reich believed that sex and the psyche were inextricably linked and upto moving to the US he'd formed several theories along this line such as his theory of "muscular armour." I guess Reich's ideas from this period could be summed up as "people are at their best when having sex." :-) If I recall correctly, a big difference with Reich's theories (as compared to, say, Freud) is that Reich became comvinced that sex had not only an effect on the psyche but on the entire nervous system. In the US he continued with his research into "bions" which eventually led to Reich's most profound discovery---that of orgone. As has been said in other posts, orgone, so Reich held, was a basic essence of all organic life. It was virtually invisible to the naked eye, except when in concentration in darkened surroundings in which case it was a faintly bluish aura. Reich invented the orgone accumulator in order to concentrate orgone from the surrounding area. Reich embarked upon a vigorous research programme into the properties of orgone based upon his theories about it. Because it was the basic "essence" of living matter, orgone depletion led to ill-health and even death. Reich discovered that ill or depressed people showed remarkable recovery when using the orgone accumulator. (Treatment involved sessions where the patient simply sat inside the accumulator for upwards of half an hour.) Buoyed on by his success, Reich began treating ever more serious ailments with the accumulator, including serious cancers and other terminal illnesses. Reich was startled to discover a large number of the patients go into remission, even become cured. Convinced now of the accumulators powers, Reich began to sell them. Initially he sold them to patients he was treating but later began to advertise and sell them generally. This was to be his downfall. Meanwhile Reich's research into orgone continued. The more he looked into it the more wondrous he found it to be. However, it wasn't until a lab accident occurred involving a radioactive source that he discovered a sinister side to orgone. Mysteriously Reich's lab assistants all fell ill, some (including his wife) very seriously so. I believe one of the experiments he was running at the time was to observe the interaction of orgone on a radium source inside an accumulator. Eventually Reich tracked down the illnesses to this experiment. Reich concluded that the radioactivity had reacted with the orgone inside the accumulator to produce (I think) negative orgone energy. In contrast to the health-infusing properties of orgone, negative orgone was a destructive force and dangerous to organic life. This discovery was to play a prominent role in Reich's future. As a spinoff from this discovery, Reich invented the "cloudbuster." This was a collection of a dozen or so metal pipes (arranged together rather like a barrels of a gatling gun) mounted on a rotating platform. From the pipes led a metal "earth wire." When the earth wire was placed in a water source, the pipes served to narrowly focus the orgone energy, directing it at the target it was pointed at. Reich found in trials of the cloudbuster that he could both cause clouds to form and also to make them disperse. He conducted rigorous tests, even in desert terrain, and reported rainfall occurring or at the very least, clouds forming on each occasion. His new discovery excited him because it spelled the end of drought in the USA. Meanwhile, whilst he was working on the cloudbuster (and before) the Food and Drug Administration had become aware and had taken an interest in Reich's vending of orgone accumulators. (The success of the orgone accumulator had led Reich to begin selling them in more than just his home state, hence the federal interest.) They were to say the least skeptical of the claims made for the accumulator and wanted Reich to provide scientific evidence to back him up. Reich had no time at all for these "pests" and simply ignored them. He did, nevertheless, try to interest the government in his cloudbuster though they declined to attend any demonstrations. Furious, he threatened to flood the entire eastern seaboard to prove himself no charlatan as claimed by them. However, even this dramatic act brought him no support. (Strangely enough on the date Reich said he'd "flood" the east, greater-than-average freak rainfall did indeed fall in many eastern parts, though not the "flood" that Reich had promised.) It was when Reich was working with the cloudbuster that he made one of his most startling discoveries. One night he was out watching the stars. He'd known for a while that the sky was permeated with orgone and had conjectured that space must be also. Indeed, to his delight he noticed that most of the stars had a bluish aura to them. However, this one night he noticed something strange. He'd never looked closely before but now he noticed that not all the stars were like this and that one or two were pure white. Idly Reich pointed the cloudbuster at one of these and to his amazement he saw it fizzle out!!! After experimentation Reich came to the horrific conclusion that the "white" stars were not stars at all but UFOs! This led directly to the development of Reich's "space gun", basically a cloudbuster designed to shoot down UFOs. As with the cloudbuster, Reich threw himself into this new discovery. However, this time Reich realised the stakes were much higher. He reasoned that the advent of the atom bomb, and all the a-bomb tests had caused a massive rise in "deadly orgone radiation" (the negative orgone energy) and this weakened state had drew the space aliens. Fortunately, Reich had discovered a way of combatting them in the nick of time. In effect, Reich was fighting to save the world!! Reich built several space guns and he and his colleagues manned them in the war against the aliens. Surprisingly, the US government declined both to heed his warning of impending doom or to lend tangible support. However, once when he was out with one of the guns he saw a US fighter flying high overhead in the general direction of a group of UFOs he was firing at. Reich realised then that Communist infiltrators in the US High Command had prevented President Eisenhower from lending him help, and that this lone plane was a signal from the President of his tactit, albeit powerless approval. Though the battle was hard fought, and took a severe toll on Reich's own psychical and mental health, he managed to fight off the space aliens. Little did he know that he had further battles to fight... The FDA case against him had been building and building. They'd taken a grudge against him because of the way he largely ignored them and this had made them yet more tenacious. Eventually they brought him to trial. It was a bad time for Reich and at the trial, against the advice of his counsel, he defended and thereby destroyed himself. Consumed by paranoia he railed against everyone, making wild accusations about how the "Communist-infested" government was out to get him, how the whole trial was a sham, how these "cretins" couldn't understand or accept the importance of orgone, and so on and so on... In the end the court ruled against Reich and judged that selling orgone accumulators across state lines was an offence in this case and sentenced him to a short jail term. In addition, the court ruled that all advertising or promotional material relating to orgone be destroyed. The FDA were rather over-zealous in carrying out this part of the ruling and seized *all* of Reich's published works (even his philosophical writings) and carted them off down to the incinerator and burned them. The judgement turned out to be a mortal blow to Reich, one that he never recovered from. Despite frequent visits from his family and friends his depression deepened until he eventually died in jail, a broken man, his genius unrecognised. Today many of Reich's theories on child-rearing are standard practice and Reichian analysis is an established form of psychotherapy. Only now are people realising the true genius of Dr. Willhelm Reich. Err... I guess so now you know... :-) ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Jul 19 14:24:17 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:24:17 EDT Subject: Fwd: HW: Orgone Accumulators and the Reich file (long) Message-ID: i forwarded the long piece on reich to a friend of mine, science-fiction writer lawrence watt-evans; here's his response... -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: lawrence at clark.net (Lawrence Watt-Evans) Subject: Re: Fwd: HW: Orgone Accumulators and the Reich file (long) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:02:20 -0400 (EDT) Size: 1937 URL: From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Jul 19 14:57:28 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:57:28 -0400 Subject: Fwd: HW: Orgone Accumulators and the Reich file (long) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: => i forwarded the long piece on reich to a friend of mine, science-fiction => writer lawrence watt-evans; here's his response... => => From: Lawrence Watt-Evans => To: DASLUD at aol.com => Subject: Re: Fwd: HW: Orgone Accumulators and the Reich file (long) => There's a truly bizarre movie made by a semi-serious Yugoslav => Reichian about thirty years ago that you might want to look for -- => "W.R.: Mysteries of the Orgasm." Sometimes retitled "Mysteries of => the Organism." It's this weird tangle of documentary about Reich => and a story about an ice skater who becomes involved with orgone => accumulation. I've seen this film, creatively edited (to cover over the naughty bits:) when it was aired as part of Channel 4's "Banned" season aeons ago. It even includes authentic footage of the Plaster Casters "in action." (There is also some footage of Orgonon, including a brief glimpse of a cloudbuster.) As for the "dramatic sub-plot," all I remember is a trio, in some kind of communist country, who appear to have sex a lot. Was one of them an ice skater? ;-) Cheers, Paul. NP: Hawkwind, _Space Ritual_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From clemens at TRAIL.COM Mon Jul 19 15:02:49 1999 From: clemens at TRAIL.COM (Clemens & Associates) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:02:49 -0600 Subject: hawkwind covers Message-ID: I recently saw an old Guess Who lp in a local music store and one of the songs was called "The Watcher." This wouldn't have been a cover, would it? Mark From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Mon Jul 19 15:11:43 1999 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:11:43 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind and Aerosmith Message-ID: I noticed that on the Aerosmith web page that they list Hawkwind as one of the bands they toured with in 72-73. Anyone out there ever hear of this? It seems like such a strange combination. dr. Dan From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Jul 19 15:42:17 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:42:17 EDT Subject: hawkwind covers Message-ID: In a message dated 7/19/99 3:03:17 PM, clemens at TRAIL.COM writes: <> ========== um, no, it wouldna been "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Jul 19 15:45:19 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:45:19 EDT Subject: Hawkwind and Aerosmith Message-ID: In a message dated 7/19/99 3:13:05 PM, DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM writes: <> well, the first aerosmith lp came out right about the time hawkwind made their US debut, circa 11/73. it does seem like a strange combination.... "<>" From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jul 19 14:52:13 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:52:13 -0400 Subject: OFF: Space Does Not Care set-list Message-ID: I said... If anyone logged onto this, or tried to dial it up on their radio in So. Calif., and didn't find it at 12 pm PDT, it's because jovi had a flat tire on the way to the station, and was an hour late!! Sorry if you missed it! Actually, it should still be going eh? Keith H. (FAA) >And then, I just saw this on another list...about 4 hrs. from now, >apparently this show will debut. Looks cool. Note: I think SDSU must be >San Diego State University, so unless you're in that particular city, best >to go online. :) > >Keith H. (FAA) > >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >From: "poetic terrorist" > >greetings peepwhole ~ > >crossposts kick ass! kindly lend thy seasoned, connoiss-ears to my new show, >the Ejaculation of Serpents on KCR college radio here at SDSU Monday, July >19th from 12pm-3pm PST, via live streaming real audio from our new-fangled >webpage located @: http://www.kcrlive.com From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jul 19 17:29:43 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:29:43 +0100 Subject: OT: Spacey new band In-Reply-To: <003301bed1e9$fc8348c0$201ec8c3@johann> Message-ID: In message <003301bed1e9$fc8348c0$201ec8c3 at johann>, Kevin Perry writes >And anyone who can do a cover of The Final Countdown and make it sound good >gets my support... and you were *how* drunk at this point, Kev? -- Jon From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jul 19 17:42:29 1999 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:42:29 +0100 Subject: OT: Spacey new band Message-ID: never touch a drop... putting on my sexist hat, he lead singer could have made a cover of the Spice Girls sound good :-) Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Browne To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 10:29 PM Subject: Re: OT: Spacey new band > In message <003301bed1e9$fc8348c0$201ec8c3 at johann>, Kevin Perry > writes > >And anyone who can do a cover of The Final Countdown and make it sound good > >gets my support... > > and you were *how* drunk at this point, Kev? > > > -- > Jon From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Jul 19 18:13:33 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:13:33 -0700 Subject: hawkwind covers Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 13:02:49 -0600, Mark (Clemens & Associates ) wrote: >I recently saw an old Guess Who lp in a local music store and one of the >songs was called "The Watcher." This wouldn't have been a cover, would it? Nope. No more so than the Sammy Hagar song "Urban Guerilla" or the Guns'n'Roses song "It's So Easy". -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Jul 19 18:28:17 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 15:28:17 -0700 Subject: OT: Spinrad on SDI Message-ID: Not quite completely off-topic, since Norm Spinrad provided the name for one of Hawkwind's instrumentals ("The Iron Dream"). I've admired the guy for his politics as well as his writing, so I was quite psyched to see this article by him about the American "Star Wars" Strategic Defense Initiative (and the American sci-fi writer who helped encourage it): http://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/en/1999/07/?c=14star BTW, his book, 'The Iron Dream' is a fantasic parody of Nazism AND pulp sci-fi that obviously strives to point out the inherent fascism in a lot of (especially 50s-era) science fiction. (It's a book-within-a-book written by one German emigre named "Adolph Hitler", who is as bad an author as he was a watercolorist, during the Soviet-dominated 1950s during which Europe came under the communist sway ... a bizarre combination of eugenic/fascist/barely-repressed homoerotic fantasies; highly recommended.) From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Mon Jul 19 19:57:04 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:57:04 -0500 Subject: HW: Orgone Accumulators and the Reich file (long) Message-ID: >From what i've heard about them, orgone accumulators are bogus, and Reich only invented them to sell to rich people. Nevertheless Wilhelm Reich is a fascinating person. A friend of mine has several rare books about him that I haven't been able to read much of as he won't allow anyone to remove them from his house! From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jul 19 19:19:03 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:19:03 +0100 Subject: HW: hawkwind.com Message-ID: There's some new material in the press cuttings section of hawkwind.com, in particular a super "band breakdown" from 1973. Y'all Netscape and other weird browser users let me know if it fucks up, because due to circumstances it's up to me... --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Mon Jul 19 20:50:39 1999 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 10:50:39 +1000 Subject: OT: Spinrad on SDI Message-ID: I'm a great fan of Norman's writing - it's a great shame he's having difficulties in getting his most recent book published at the moment. I'd recommend, aside from The Iron Dream, Bug Jack Barron, which would have to be one of the best books I've ever read. He's got his own homepage, for those who don't know, at:- http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/normanspinrad/ Well worth checking out most of his books, for that matter. Max Wilcox From Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Mon Jul 19 20:12:35 1999 From: Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Shelley Lowenberg-DeBoer) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 20:12:35 -0400 Subject: hawkwind.com Message-ID: Keep those articles coming! I for one really appreciate them, great reading..... -Nik ___________ > There's some new material in the press cuttings section of hawkwind.com, in > particular a super "band breakdown" from 1973. Y'all Netscape and other > weird browser users let me know if it fucks up, because due to circumstances > it's up to me... From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Mon Jul 19 22:12:57 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:12:57 +1100 Subject: HW: Complete Live '79? Message-ID: Seen on Gong-GAS mailout: > www.sonnet.co.uk/gong-gas/ > ------------------------- > FUTURE RELEASES > Finishing Artwork CD: Hawkwind (with Tim Blake)- The Complete Live 79 (Hawks) > Recording CD: Tim Blake- Crystal Island (Voiceprint) Hmmmm ..... I wonder if the Live '79 will include the full Silver Machine? S. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jul 19 22:23:29 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:23:29 -0400 Subject: HW/OFF: Strange Daze '99 Message-ID: Hi Folks... For those who are planning a trip to Ohio next month (and that should be everyone!!), the details of the event are now up on Jim's site at www.strange-trips.com, including the band schedule. It's going to be another awesome event! And if you thought you might not come simply because Hawkwind is not playing, shame on you. :) Tribe of Cro & Nik-flung are both stellar headliners, and Helios & AP are not too shabby themselves! :) And then of course, other fine outfits will grace the stage as well, and into the wee hours this time (assuming the tent idea works out!). Also, it's a chance to pick up a few rare CDs/LPs/tshirts/posters/'zines that you wouldn't find anywhere else! So bring some spending money. I'll have a hundred or so discs for sale (most used prices, some new) at the 'Aural Innovations' table. Stop by, say hello, and shop for a bit. If you didn't come last year and don't know your way around NE Ohio, then go over to the Nelson Ledges page, where all sorts of info can be found, including maps and photos...http://www.nlqp.com See ya' there!! I'll probably be hiding under the trees once again! :) Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Over in the NLQP guestbook, there are rumors of the place closing down in the near future (ack!), so this could possibly be the last one at this idyllic setting! From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Jul 20 01:45:41 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 06:45:41 +0100 Subject: hawkwind.com In-Reply-To: <19990720011449.RLUI4954@nl-hello> Message-ID: Cheers, Nik! The "band breakdown" was facinating for several reasons - not least the way by far the biggest picture was of Stacia... --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Shelley Lowenberg-DeBoer > Sent: 20 July 1999 01:13 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: hawkwind.com > > > Keep those articles coming! I for one really appreciate them, great > reading..... > > -Nik From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Tue Jul 20 05:32:09 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:32:09 +0000 Subject: Off: Jim Carroll/John Peel In-Reply-To: <199907191605.RAA01499@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 17:05 19/07/99 +0100, Jill wrote: >Chris Warburton writes: > >>Top of the Pops deejay John Peel is curled up on a Jacobean sidetable; >>============================================= >> Spot the deliberate mistake (just kidding): I'm pretty sure that Peel >> didn't have anything to do with TOTP until sometime in the post-punk >> period. > >Can't swear to this but John Peel definitely had an extremely interesting >Sunday evening (I think) radio show in 1971 (I was listening to it at >school so it must have been then) At this time, I think JP was on Saturday afternoons, the Sunday evening slot after the chart show and before Radio1 surrendered to R2 was Pete Drummond. >and my suspicion is that all the Radio1 DJs were required to do television >ToTP sessions in rotation so folk could see what they looked like so I think >it was unavoidable that he would have had appear at least once, and >probably more than that. > >Could be wrong tho'. I'm pretty sure that the "underground" DJs were exempted i.e. those who presented "Sounds of the Seventies"(?) Mon-Fri 18:00-19:00 (incl. "Whispering" Bob, Mike Harding (not the folk singer), Alan Black, poss. Annie Nightingale), the aforementioned Drummond and Peel. IIRC, Drummond & Harding got TV exposure as alternating presenters of "Disco 2" (I kid you not!) the predecessor to "The Old Grey Whistle Test". >I have wierd TV memories - like I'm sure I >remember Hawkwind appearing on the Old Grey Whistle test - but that >MUST be wrong so I dunno what I'm remembering there! I cannot confirm or repudiate this, it's not impossible, but I don't remember ever seeing the Hawks on OGWT. I do remember Can just playing...and playing...and playing until they just had to fade the end of the program, and Randy California being so bombed out of his skull that he couldn't play, or even mime. But I think that's enough reminiscence for now.... ChrisW From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Tue Jul 20 05:58:40 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:58:40 +0000 Subject: OT: Spacey new band In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 22:29 19/07/99 +0100, you wrote: >In message <003301bed1e9$fc8348c0$201ec8c3 at johann>, Kevin Perry > writes >>And anyone who can do a cover of The Final Countdown and make it sound good >>gets my support... > >and you were *how* drunk at this point, Kev? > > >-- >Jon I think JB just put himself in a "pot calling the kettle black" position, n'est-ce pas? ChrisW From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Tue Jul 20 06:12:03 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 06:12:03 -0400 Subject: HW: Orgone Accumulators and the Reich file (long) Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Sen. Volstead To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Monday, July 19, 1999 7:28 PM Subject: Re: HW: Orgone Accumulators and the Reich file (long) >>From what i've heard about them, orgone accumulators are bogus, and Reich only >invented them to sell to rich people. Nevertheless Wilhelm Reich is a fascinating >person. A friend of mine has several rare books about him that I haven't been able >to read much of as he won't allow anyone to remove them from his house! I may be confused.... I thought there was only one? Out in the desert? Where some people with various afflictions have developed a sort of healing cult... Am I thinking of something else? RJ From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jul 20 08:10:27 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:10:27 +0100 Subject: OT: Spacey new band In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990720095840.007b6e70@clara.net> Message-ID: In article <3.0.5.32.19990720095840.007b6e70 at clara.net>, Chris Warburton writes >I think JB just put himself in a "pot calling the kettle black" position, >n'est-ce pas? hee! -- Jon From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Tue Jul 20 07:46:20 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:46:20 +0100 Subject: HW: Brixton Academy. In-Reply-To: <199907200901.FAA28403@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >From: Stuart Hamilton >Subject: HW: 2 nights at Brixton with Lemmy >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >According to the August 1998 issue of Mojo, the 'original' lineup of HW >are scheduled for 2 nights at the Brixton Academy starting September 4. >It claims that several line-ups from throughout HW history will appear. >And it's accompanied by a grainy B&W image of full frontal Stacia >writhing about on the floor of the stage. And of course you'll be keeping us all informed about the dates and times and prices and stuff won't ya ;-) Actually it would be great if one of the boys could confirm/deny this coz I for one would take time off work and arrange a doss in our fair(ish) capital. Mark. NP: Nothing - I'm going home now... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Tue Jul 20 11:48:37 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:48:37 +0100 Subject: HW: hawkwind.com In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 20 Jul 1999 00:19:03 BST." Message-ID: > There's some new material in the press cuttings section of hawkwind.com, in > particular a super "band breakdown" from 1973. Y'all Netscape and other > weird browser users let me know if it fucks up, because due to circumstances > it's up to me... You'll be treading on *thin* ice to suggest Netscape is some obscure browser! Better the flawed Netscape than the MS snake oil. Never forget those of us still on unix systems eh ? But the pages looks fine in Navigator 3.01. Tim From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Jul 20 12:17:54 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:17:54 +0100 Subject: HW: hawkwind.com In-Reply-To: <199907201548.QAA17505@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: Cheers, Tim! (OK, on second reading that sentence had ambiguous parsing. So sue me. :) Anyway, I just OCR'd and uploaded a Lemmy interview from 1975. He was giving good quote even back then! --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of bart > Sent: 20 July 1999 16:49 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: HW: hawkwind.com > > > > There's some new material in the press cuttings section of > hawkwind.com, in > > particular a super "band breakdown" from 1973. Y'all Netscape and other > > weird browser users let me know if it fucks up, because due to > circumstances > > it's up to me... > > You'll be treading on *thin* ice to suggest Netscape is some > obscure browser! > Better the flawed Netscape than the MS snake oil. Never forget those of us > still on unix systems eh ? > > > But the pages looks fine in Navigator 3.01. > > > Tim > From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Jul 20 12:26:44 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:26:44 EDT Subject: HW: hawkwind.com Message-ID: just visited the place and enjoyed the clippings quite a bit; we yanks had precious little to read about 'em during the "lemmy era"... at the risk of being obvious, the "band breakdown" involves a couple three paragraphs for each member (incl. stacia) as opposed to an article about the band "breaking down".... tres neato! "<>" From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Jul 20 13:18:06 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:18:06 +0100 Subject: HW: hawkwind.com Message-ID: - >There's some new material in the press cuttings section of hawkwind.com, in >particular a super "band breakdown" from 1973. Y'all Netscape and other >weird browser users let me know if it fucks up, because due to circumstances >it's up to me... > >--Andy I'm using Netscape 4.05 with which the formatting is rather skewed, photos overlap and the text is all over the place. Nick From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Jul 20 16:27:18 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:27:18 +0100 Subject: HW: hawkwind.com In-Reply-To: <003801bed2d3$d6ede580$2544a8c2@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: This little hiccup is no more! Thanks to Nick for helping me fix it. --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Nick Lee > Sent: 20 July 1999 18:18 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: HW: hawkwind.com > > > - > > >There's some new material in the press cuttings section of > hawkwind.com, in > >particular a super "band breakdown" from 1973. Y'all Netscape and other > >weird browser users let me know if it fucks up, because due to > circumstances > >it's up to me... > > > >--Andy > > I'm using Netscape 4.05 with which the formatting is rather skewed, photos > overlap and the text is all over the place. > > Nick > From crow at ASCENT.NET Tue Jul 20 17:15:36 1999 From: crow at ASCENT.NET (crow) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:15:36 -0400 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: An idea has come to me that has made me drag myself from the shadows and let the world know that I am still living. The idea goes something like this... There seems to be fair number of musicians subscribed to this list. Why not take tapes of the music by these persons and form a tape swap? If it was recorded on a 32-track digital machine or a "boom-box" shouldn't matter. I myself am just interested what the "closet songwriter" or "garage musician" is up to. This could be a number of tapes by different musicians or a compilation of sorts. One person taking all submissions and making a "Best of the BOC-L" so to speak. Now, I am not the person to take charge of something like this, I'm just an idea man. Take it. Bat it around a bit. Then call me a genius or call me a fool, there's not always too much difference. crow (insert your own creative signature here) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The last class I had to take was Sociology. The teacher >was >absolutely inspiring with the qualities that I wish every human being had >been graced with. Her last project of the term was called "Smile." The >class was asked to go out and smile at three people and document their >reaction. > >I am a very friendly person and always smile at everyone and say hello >anyway.....so, I thought, this would be a piece of cake literally. Soon >after we were assigned the project, my husband, youngest son, and I went >out to >McDonalds, one crisp March morning. It was just our way of sharing >special >play time with our son. We were standing in line, waiting to be served, >when all of a sudden everyone around us began to back away, and then even >my >husband did. I did not move an inch...an overwhelming feeling of panic >welled >up inside of me as I turned to see why they had moved. As I turned >around >I smelled a horrible "dirty" body smell...and there standing behind me >were >two poor homeless men. As I looked down at the short gentleman, close to >me, >he was smiling. > >His beautiful sky-blue eyes were full of God's Light as he searched for >acceptance. He said, "Good day" as he counted the few coins he had been >clutching. The second man fumbled with his hands as he stood behind his >friend. I realized the second man was mentally deficient and the >blue-eyed >gentleman was his salvation. I held my tears....as I stood there with >them. >The young lady at the counter asked him what they wanted. He said, >"Coffee >is all, Miss" because that was all they could afford (to sit in the >restaurant >and warm up, they had to buy something...they just wanted to be warm). > >Then I really felt it...the compulsion as so great I almost reached out >and >embraced the little man with the blue eyes. That is when I noticed all >eyes >in the restaurant were set on me...judging my every action. I smiled and >asked the young lady behind the counter to give me two more breakfast >meals >on a separate tray. I then walked around the corner to the table that the >men had chosen as a resting spot. I put the tray on the table and laid my >hand >on the blue eyed gentleman's cold hand. He looked up at me, with tears >in >his >eyes, and said, "Thank you." > >I leaned over, began to pat his hand and said, "I did not do this for >you...God is here working through me to give you hope." I started to cry >as I walked away to join my husband and son. When I sat down my husband >smiled >at me and said, "That is why God gave you to me, honey....to give me >hope." > >We held hands for a moment and at that time we knew that only because of >the Grace that we had been given were we able to give. We are not church >goers >but we are believers. That day showed me the pure Light of God's sweet >love. > >I returned to college, on the last evening of class, with this story in >hand. I turned in my project and the instructor read it....then she >looked >up at >me and said, "Can I share this?" I slowly nodded as she got the attention >of >the class. > >She began to read and that is when I knew that we, as human beings and >being part of God, share this need to heal people and be healed. In my >own >way I >had touched the people at McDonalds, my husband, son, instructor, and >every >soul that shared the classroom on the last night I spent as a college >student. I graduated with one of the biggest lessons I would ever >learn.... >UNCONDITIONAL ACCEPTANCE. > >Much love and compassion is sent to each and every person who reads this. >LOVE PEOPLE AND USE THINGS - NOT LOVE THINGS AND USE PEOPLE. > >If this story has touched you in any way, please send this to everyone >you >know. God bless, keep and enlighten you...it is in the giving, that we >receive. Envy is a symptom of lack of appreciation of our own uniqueness >and self-worth. Each of us has something to give that no one else has. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: liz hartrick Subject: [Fwd: Fwd: Fw:to my mom] Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 23:09:11 -0500 Size: 6882 URL: From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Jul 20 17:47:45 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:47:45 EDT Subject: OFF[Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: Fw:to my mom]] Message-ID: chris, mon frere, dey don go fo dat chit heah. mind you, it's okay w/me but take it from the forwarder of the killer phone booth and the e-mail from god. no sir, gripeage may well ensue. shhh... "<>" From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jul 20 17:04:28 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:04:28 -0400 Subject: OFF: Roedelius tour Message-ID: Hi Folks...FYI...Keith H. (FAA) Curious Music is pleased to announce the Indian Summer North American tour by German Electronica legend Hans Joachim Roedelius. These rare live dates represent his first-ever solo tour in over 30 years of highly influential work in avant-garde music. Described by the Chicago Tribune as "one of the best kept secrets of 20th century music", Roedelius is best known as one half of Cluster and as a contemporary of such sound innovators as Kraftwerk, Can and occasional collaborator Brian Eno. His tremendous influence threads throughout contemporary electronica having informed the work of David Bowie, Stereolab, The Orb, Tortoise, Autechre and many others. Roedelius' awe-inspiring catalog of over 80 albums continues to grow with several releases this year. His forthcoming "Global Trotters" project, Drive, has been described by U2's The Edge as a "beautiful, soulful trainride of a record". Roedelius has garnered a sterling international reputation for his live performances. In 1996 Roedelius and Cluster embarked on a successful US/Japan tour of 25 cities lauded by the New York Times as "serenity without the sugar in a New Age sound". In addition to the "normal" shows dates are scheduled at alternative art spaces, avant-cafes and like-minded venues. Selected dates in some cities will include special guests such as Roger Eno & Lol Hammond, Harold Budd, and Tim Story. Roedelius tour - Part I (as support for Roger Eno and Lol Hammond) Wednesday, August 25...The Knitting Factory, New York City Thursday, August 26...Star's End Gathering, Philadelphia, PA Saturday, August 28...The Empty Bottle, Chicago, IL Sunday, August 29...TBA Wednesday, September 1...TBA San Francisco, CA Thursday, September 2...The Henry Miller Library, Big Sur, CA Friday, September 3...Public Space, Los Angeles, CA Saturday, September 4 [TENTATIVE]...Public Space, Los Angeles, CA Roedelius tour - Part II (on his own) Sunday, September 5...TBA, Los Angeles, CA Monday, September 6...Club Mesa, Costa Mesa, CA Wednesday, September 8...Modified, Phoenix, AZ (Presented by Stinkweeds) Thursday, September 10...Luna Loca, Tucson, AZ Monday, September 13...Flamingo Cantina, Austin, TX Wednesday, September 15...Mermaid Lounge, New Orleans, LA Saturday, September 25...The Empty Bottle, Chicago Saturday, October 2...Vincent's Ear, Asheville, NC Saturday, October 9...Star's End Gathering, Philadelphia, PA Sunday, October 10...The Knitting Factory, New York City Tuesday, October 12...Fire & Water Cafe, Northhampton, MA Wednesday, October 13...Gaylordsville Village Cafe, Gaylordsville, CT Wednesday, October 20...Grog Shop, Cleveland, OH Sunday, October 24...Cedar Cultural Center, Minneapolis, MN Wednesday, October 27...Neurolux, Boise, ID Thursday, October 28...WOW Hall, Eugene, OR Monday, November 1...Art Bar, Seattle, WA Thursday, November 4...The Henry Miller Library, Big Sur, CA Friday, November 5...Public Space, Los Angeles, CA (with special guests) Saturday, November 6...Public Space, Los Angeles, CA (with special guests) Contact Russ Curry at Curious Music for further details: Curious Music 1847 Clarice Court Coralville, Iowa 52241-1054 Phone/fax (319) 338-5145 E-mail: info at curiousmusic.com From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Tue Jul 20 14:30:08 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:30:08 +0000 Subject: OFF[Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: Fw:to my mom]] Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > > chris, mon frere, > dey don go fo dat chit heah. > > mind you, it's okay w/me > but take it from the forwarder > of the killer phone booth > and the e-mail from god. > > no sir, gripeage may well ensue. > Thats why "OFF" in the suject header. I've been on boc-l off and on again since 1994, if any one gives me a harder time than for their browsers locking up on simple signature file... well, tough shit. I've posted enough real info over the years to get away with something I consider offtopic but worth reading... Let he who cast the first stone... > shhh... > "<>" From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Jul 20 18:31:57 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:31:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap In-Reply-To: <004501bed2f5$04bbf580$017af0d0@acer> Message-ID: Crow wrote: > > >There seems to be fair number of musicians > >subscribed to this list. Why not take tapes of the > >music by these persons and form a tape swap? We did something similar back in '94 (?) with list members recording covers of HW and BOC tunes. Only three bands submitted anything, but it was fun for those of us who let loose and gave our own take on some of our favorites. > > > >If it was recorded on a 32-track digital machine > >or a "boom-box" shouldn't matter. I myself am just > >interested what the "closet songwriter" or "garage > >musician" is up to. > The covers were definately "boom-box" quality. Or to regress to the 80s for a second- "ghetto blaster" quality. Brian From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Tue Jul 20 19:44:51 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:44:51 -0500 Subject: OFF[Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: Fw:to my mom]] Message-ID: I love you McDonald's. I love giving cheap stuff to those pathetic homeless people, it makes me feel so great about myself, and I for one can stand the smell too! I'm gonna be sick From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Jul 20 20:13:03 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:13:03 -0700 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:31:57 -0400, Brian Halligan wrote: > > Crow wrote: > > >There seems to be fair number of musicians > >subscribed to this list. Why not take tapes of the > >music by these persons and form a tape swap? You can count me in for participation on this! (Not for organization, though ... I'm thoroughly overextended as it is.) I've got an 8-minute krautrock/spacerock solo piece (regrettably, you'll have to hear my attempt at playing drums on the parts where the sequencer isn't handling the rhythm :^P) that just needs to be mixed-down ... this would give me an excuse! Recorded on 6-track cassette, if anyone cares (better than boom box, but not much). > We did something similar back in '94 (?) with list members recording covers of >HW and BOC tunes. > Only three bands submitted anything, but it was fun for those of us who let >loose and gave our own > take on some of our favorites. Must've been shortly before I joined the list (for the first time). Too bad, I would have liked to participate in that. Not right now, though; both my main bands recorded/performed B?C tunes within the last couple months and I'm burnt out on those ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jul 20 19:46:08 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:46:08 GMT Subject: OFF[Fwd: [Fwd: Fwd: Fw:to my mom]] In-Reply-To: <3794B178.23BB6641@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: Now normally these things annoy me, but, oh, this one is wonderful, >>after we were assigned the project, my husband, youngest son, and I went >>out to >>McDonalds, one crisp March morning. It was just our way of sharing >>special >>play time with our son. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! >>in the restaurant were set on me...judging my every action. I smiled and AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH! >>I leaned over, began to pat his hand and said, "I did not do this for >>you...God is here working through me to give you hope." I started to cry >>as I walked away to join my husband and son. When I sat down my husband >>smiled >>at me and said, "That is why God gave you to me, honey....to give me >>hope." AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHURRRLPPPP! I can't believe it's not satire! andrew From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Jul 20 20:45:00 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:45:00 EDT Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: In a message dated 7/20/99 6:38:15 PM, bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET writes: <<>There seems to be fair number of musicians > >subscribed to this list. Why not take tapes of the > >music by these persons and form a tape swap? >> =========== i'm all for it! am kinda doing it w/a few folks here as it is not that i wanna be the coordinator of such a project ps. in 1982 i bought a panasonic platinum series cassette machine which has been faithful to this day for that sorta recording...o sacred blaster... "<>" From pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jul 21 06:59:32 1999 From: pseudo_sun at HOTMAIL.COM (Juha Nurmenniemi) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 03:59:32 PDT Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: Hi! Juba from Pseudo Sun here. I?d like to be part of something like that,though I don?t have the time to organize it. Cheers! Juba >From: crow >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap >Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:15:36 -0400 > >An idea has come to me that has made me drag >myself from the shadows and let the world know >that I am still living. > >The idea goes something like this... > >There seems to be fair number of musicians >subscribed to this list. Why not take tapes of the >music by these persons and form a tape swap? > >If it was recorded on a 32-track digital machine >or a "boom-box" shouldn't matter. I myself am just >interested what the "closet songwriter" or "garage >musician" is up to. > >This could be a number of tapes by different musicians >or a compilation of sorts. One person taking all >submissions and making a "Best of the BOC-L" so >to speak. > >Now, I am not the person to take charge of something >like this, I'm just an idea man. > >Take it. Bat it around a bit. Then call me a genius or >call me a fool, there's not always too much difference. > >crow (insert your own creative signature here) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Wed Jul 21 09:26:17 1999 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (James A Hogard) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:26:17 -0500 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: crow: >There seems to be fair number of musicians >subscribed to this list. Why not take tapes of the=20 >music by these persons and form a tape swap? I'm in. Hogard From wcarter1 at OSF1.GMU.EDU Wed Jul 21 09:52:23 1999 From: wcarter1 at OSF1.GMU.EDU (Killing Joke) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:52:23 -0400 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap In-Reply-To: <19990721.082813.359.0.james.hogard@juno.com> Message-ID: I'm all about that...I give warning..I play in a speed metal band..=) Thrashers can listen to Hawkwind and Helios Creed too! Check out my bio on my band's webpage..I always try to mention those two for influences (With Killing Joke taking nuermo uno influence always..) Any KJ fans on here? I know plenty of people on the KJ list are also Hawkfans...I wonder if it's the same here? bill www.angelfire.com/va/FromWithin On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, James A Hogard wrote: > crow: > > >There seems to be fair number of musicians > >subscribed to this list. Why not take tapes of the=20 > >music by these persons and form a tape swap? > > I'm in. > > Hogard > From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jul 21 12:17:27 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:17:27 EDT Subject: OFF: non-xian off-topic forwarded link of possible relevance Message-ID: some sobering sh*t here, perhaps... -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Diacollett at aol.com Subject: Check out Cosmic Ray Deflection Society Goes Beyond Free Speech Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:20:44 EDT Size: 555 URL: From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Wed Jul 21 12:22:09 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:22:09 -0400 Subject: New to the list In-Reply-To: ; from Paul Mather on Thu, Jun 24, 1999 at 03:49:39PM -0400 Message-ID: On Thu, Jun 24, 1999 at 03:49:39PM -0400, Paul Mather wrote: > On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Christopher Bruce wrote: > > => Well, our dear friends here at boc-l may be (very) mildly miffed at an > => originally BOC list becoming the default Hawkwind site, but we all get along > > BOC-L was never originally a BOC list. It has always been a > Hawkwind/BOC/friends+relations list. The name "BOC-L" is just an > accident of birth. The SUNY Buffalo list server manager wouldn't let me create a list named "BOC-Hawkwind-and-related-music-L". The man clearly had no vision. (Sorry Jim, if you ever read this!) > Steve Swann is to blame, of course... ;-) Wow, I'm actually a *month* behind on my boc-l mail. And I come back to find.......... that things are just the way I left them. ;-) Steve swann at plutonia.com From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Wed Jul 21 10:26:07 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:26:07 +0000 Subject: New to the list Message-ID: Stephen Swann wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 24, 1999 at 03:49:39PM -0400, Paul Mather wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Christopher Bruce wrote: > > > > => Well, our dear friends here at boc-l may be (very) mildly miffed at an > > => originally BOC list becoming the default Hawkwind site, but we all get along > > > > BOC-L was never originally a BOC list. It has always been a > > Hawkwind/BOC/friends+relations list. The name "BOC-L" is just an > > accident of birth. > > The SUNY Buffalo list server manager wouldn't let me create a list named > "BOC-Hawkwind-and-related-music-L". The man clearly had no vision. > (Sorry Jim, if you ever read this!) > > > Steve Swann is to blame, of course... ;-) > > Wow, I'm actually a *month* behind on my boc-l mail. And I come back to > find.......... that things are just the way I left them. > > ;-) > > Steve > swann at plutonia.com Touche! ChrisB. From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Jul 21 16:58:38 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:58:38 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind festival plug on R1 + Bike Show In-Reply-To: <378beca6.38775372@smtp.freeserve.net> Message-ID: At 01:51 14/07/99 GMT, you wrote: >> >>That makes two of us: maybe we should get together and commiserate: I think >>we're "practically neighbours" - I'm in sunny Burton at the moment sponging >>off me dear old mum! >> >>ChrisW > >That sounds like a very good idea nicely timed to coincide with the Dr >Hasbeen gig i've just seen advertised on the list. Any others in the >area? > Since I've just realised that my own car being off the road, the insurance has expired, which means I can't drive my (sainted) mother's car either, so I may have to skip this since the last train back from Derby is well before closing time *sigh* The Warburton gig-curse strikes again; anybody out there going to the show and travelling via Burton-on-Trent? Cheers, ChrisW "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From adrian.brevard at EDS.COM Wed Jul 21 18:08:45 1999 From: adrian.brevard at EDS.COM (Brevard, Adrian R) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:08:45 -0400 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: >This could be a number of tapes by different musicians or a compilation of sorts. One person taking all submissions and making a "Best of the BOC-L" so to speak. Sounds boss. John Swartz can you do Still Burnin' or the Imaginos version of Astronomy? Can non-muscians get copies of this thing? >Now, I am not the person to take charge of something like this, I'm just an idea man. "A genius and a rebel are the way that you're perceived..." >Take it. Bat it around a bit. Then call me a genius or call me a fool, there's not always too much difference. "But how could so many be so utterly deceived?" Sorry, just a little Galactic Cowboy... L8er Ghost in the Ruins... ...who's in a wacky mood "'cause the persons I am are the parts that I play." - Savatage From Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Wed Jul 21 17:26:09 1999 From: Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Nik Lowenberg) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:26:09 -0400 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: An idea crossed my mind. Maybe this is not what everyone's looking for, but what the hey, right? On alt.fan.frank-zappa a music exchange was organized where everyone sent tapes to this one guy and he's currently making a three cdr package. I don't how tape swaps have been done here in the past (please enlighten me), but I think everyone should send their recording to one person who dub everything onto one tape and then send them out. Maybe you guys thought of this already and found an easier way or maybe it's how you're already doing it. Just thought I'd suggest....... -Nik From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Wed Jul 21 18:36:19 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:36:19 -0400 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap In-Reply-To: <19990721222822.KHR25099@nl-hello> Message-ID: Nik wrote: >I don't how tape swaps have been done here in >the past (please enlighten me) For the BOC-L cover tape, the bands sent me their recordings and a blank tape, and I sent them back their original and the completed cover tape. However, this was only for two bands other than my own. Brian obSONG> "Master of the Universe" -Horus From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Jul 21 20:37:15 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:37:15 +0100 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Killing Joke wrote: > I'm all about that...I give warning..I play in a speed metal band..=) > > Thrashers can listen to Hawkwind and Helios Creed too! Check out my bio > on my band's webpage..I always try to mention those two for influences > (With Killing Joke taking nuermo uno influence always..) Any KJ fans on > here? I know plenty of people on the KJ list are also Hawkfans...I wonder > if it's the same here? Oh, hullo Bill! I need to send you some mail don't I... I wasn't expecting to see you here... Yours, Jon From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Jul 21 20:49:25 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:49:25 +0100 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap In-Reply-To: <19990721222822.KHR25099@nl-hello> Message-ID: The famed `other list I'm on' () is currently producing a CD-R of bands on the list, but there are quite a few of the Man's Ruin type stoner bands on there, in one person or another. Nobody ever mentions their musical activities on BOC-L except the members/participants of Das Ludicroix, it seems to me: what are other people doing? Yours, Jon On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Nik Lowenberg wrote: > An idea crossed my mind. Maybe this is not what everyone's looking for, > but what the hey, right? On alt.fan.frank-zappa a music exchange was > organized where everyone sent tapes to this one guy and he's currently > making a three cdr package. I don't how tape swaps have been done here in > the past (please enlighten me), but I think everyone should send their > recording to one person who dub everything onto one tape and then send them > out. Maybe you guys thought of this already and found an easier way or > maybe it's how you're already doing it. Just thought I'd suggest....... > > -Nik > From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jul 21 22:24:13 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:24:13 EDT Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: In a message dated 7/21/99 8:50:04 PM, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: <>, i'm not unaware of this; but a bit of it got writ unbeknownst to me, tambien. i'm TOTALLY in favor of anyone/everyone else who plays amongst us here to do their own spiels...this would be the place for it as far as i'm concerned! "<>" ps> if the tape swap thing hinges on covers i/we cant participate...that cover of 'ejection' some folks here are familiar with was an on-the-spot deal and wasnt repeated...we dont do covers lest they happen under those circumstances. i'd much rather hear other bands' originals, even if i dont like 'em. From Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Wed Jul 21 21:43:21 1999 From: Lowenberg-DeBoer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Nik Lowenberg) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:43:21 -0400 Subject: HW: Terry Ollis out and about?! Message-ID: Just checked the Hawkeye website and saw that Terry Ollis is going to be out on tour. Perhaps it's been discussed before, but I'm relatively new here, so can anyone tell me about the band he's playing in? Also, if anyone happens to catch him live, I think it'd be great to see some photos..... Thanks for any info, -Nik Lowenberg-DeBoer at worldnet.att.net http://homepages.go.com/~hawkwind7/index.html From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Wed Jul 21 20:09:53 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:09:53 +0000 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > > In a message dated 7/21/99 8:50:04 PM, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: > > < members/participants of Das Ludicroix>>, > > i'm not unaware of this; but a bit of it got writ unbeknownst to me, tambien. > i'm TOTALLY in favor of anyone/everyone else who plays amongst us here to > do their own spiels...this would be the place for it as far as i'm concerned! > > "<>" > > ps> if the tape swap thing hinges on covers i/we cant participate...that > cover of 'ejection' some folks here are familiar with was an on-the-spot > deal and wasnt repeated...we dont do covers lest they happen under those > circumstances. > i'd much rather hear other bands' originals, even if i dont like 'em. Hmmm... I've just found myself employed by a major institution who shall remain nameless for my own sake, and it so happens that I am controlling an Internet domain server dedicated to wideband video/voice/data, but only for short intervals during work hours. The software is there for any Mac users already - will any NT/98/2000b folks speak up(?) with apps so folks that meet here on boc-l can do an online realtime jam? Am I asking too much of the musicians to get with the software? This could be the start of something... I've already thought of streaming HW and GD audio when the server is not officially busy... Help! I'm overburdened with possibilities... CB Any votes for RA or mp3? Let me know. From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jul 22 00:36:11 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:36:11 +0900 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: Tried this once a while ago. I can't speak for DSL and Cable Modems, but the best I ever managed for online jamming was broadcasting MIDI data rather than the audio itself. Mind you - our "hub" didn't have the kind of computer muscle needed to receive the independent audio streams, mix them and turn them round fast enough. It was wierd, everything you played came back a bit later. Nice idea though. Dave Christopher Bruce wrote: > Hmmm... > > I've just found myself employed by a major institution who shall remain > nameless for my own sake, and it so happens that I am controlling an Internet > domain server dedicated to wideband video/voice/data, but only for short > intervals during work hours. The software is there for any Mac users already - > will any NT/98/2000b folks speak up(?) with apps so folks that meet here on > boc-l can do an online realtime jam? Am I asking too much of the musicians to > get with the software? This could be the start of something... I've already > thought of streaming HW and GD audio when the server is not officially busy... > Help! I'm overburdened with possibilities... > > CB > Any votes for RA or mp3? Let me know. -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Jul 22 00:30:27 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 00:30:27 -0400 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap In-Reply-To: <37966151.5D419FB3@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Christopher Bruce wrote: => Any votes for RA or mp3? Let me know. My hardware cannot run M$-Windoze (note, I said *cannot*, not "will not"), and is not popular enough to be graced by a binary for the proprietary RealAudio format. But, it can handle MPEG audio just fine. I'll let you guess which one I vote for. :-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From SHLL at NOVO.DK Thu Jul 22 05:21:36 1999 From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:21:36 +0200 Subject: HW: Dawn og PF Message-ID: Hej, Has anyone made a nice cover for the Dawn of Hawkwind CD that one can download? Also, where can I find the one that i missed out on that keven made for the Pink Floyd tribute that HW did that came with the book? Anything more firm on the reunion gigs? I got an email froma guy who knows lemmy and he said that Lemmy was in Germany for amonth and had not told him anything yet about sept 4-5th? Rumor or not? I really thought that Illusions tune was really excellent on the Dawn of Hawkwind CD? Did anyone ever figure out where that version of Master of the Universe came from? It is really really cool... A lot of Nik flute on that one! Scott Oblp- Country Joe McDonald and Bevis Frond- Eat Flowers and Kiss Babies! From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Thu Jul 22 06:35:04 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Gekke Henkie) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:35:04 +0200 Subject: off: seti@home Message-ID: Hi all, I do not know if any of you is involved in the seti at home project, the site is at: http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ but I am. i thought it would/could be nice to start a group of HW/BOC fans trackin down interstellar intelligeces. I have not created one yet, so let me know what you all think of this. Space does not care, or does it? --BArt From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jul 22 07:19:08 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:19:08 +0100 Subject: off: seti@home In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've been running it for a couple of months, but I'm getting bored with it because I haven't found anything yet. :) --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Gekke Henkie > Sent: 22 July 1999 11:35 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: off: seti at home > > > Hi all, > > I do not know if any of you is involved in the seti at home project, the > site is at: http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ but I am. i thought it > would/could be nice to start a group of HW/BOC fans trackin down > interstellar intelligeces. I have not created one yet, so let me know > what you all think of this. > > Space does not care, or does it? > > > --BArt > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jul 22 07:23:14 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:23:14 EDT Subject: kbfh? In-Reply-To: <37969FBB.8251DC2F@virgin.net> Message-ID: Someone on the other list says that KBFH is supposed to be released on 21 Sept! Can't wait for that one... theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Jul 22 07:31:23 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:31:23 EDT Subject: new tBS In-Reply-To: <19990722024533.UPSF5731@nl-hello> Message-ID: I got a mailing from tBS yesterday, advertising their new double, Piece of Work! I left the flier home, damnit, so I can't post the titles. Don't remember if there was any Imaginos-saga stuff. Al says there are a few guest musicians on it... theo From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jul 22 07:48:37 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:48:37 +0100 Subject: off: seti@home In-Reply-To: Andy Gilham's message of Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:19:08 +0100 Message-ID: Andy Gilham writes: > I've been running it for a couple of months, but I'm getting bored with it > because I haven't found anything yet. > > :) > > --Andy I've been trying to run it but I think an extra terestrial has taken over my machine and found Linux indigestible so nothing is working proper yet. I'm told a new version will be coming out soon which will resolve several problems in the current one so I wait.... But I love the idea of running the universe through my PC!! grandiosly jill > > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of Gekke Henkie > > Sent: 22 July 1999 11:35 > > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > > Subject: off: seti at home > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > I do not know if any of you is involved in the seti at home project, the > > site is at: http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ but I am. i thought it > > would/could be nice to start a group of HW/BOC fans trackin down > > interstellar intelligeces. I have not created one yet, so let me know > > what you all think of this. > > > > Space does not care, or does it? > > > > > > --BArt > > > ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Thu Jul 22 08:17:18 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:17:18 -0400 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: John Swartz was quietly napping at his terminal when he read: > > Sounds boss. John Swartz can you do Still Burnin' or the Imaginos version > of Astronomy? Can non-muscians get copies of this thing? Huh? Are you volunteering me for somenthing on my bass here? I can't say that I've ever played either of those 2 tunes. I can play along to a number of tBS tunes though, or maybe "Dominance and Submission"... John From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Thu Jul 22 08:20:26 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 08:20:26 -0400 Subject: BOC, BRAIN: Get Al's latest Piece of Work Message-ID: I know this has been mentioned, but now it is official. I just got my new Cellsum Records catalog in the mail, and the Brain Surgeons' double CD, *Piece Of Work*, is now available for order. Also new is the first Cellsum movie soundtrack, *Burnzy's Last Call*, produced by tBS guest musician Crispin Cioe (sporting tunes from Debbie Harry, David Johansen, Evan Dando, Graham Parker, and Lou Christie to name a few), as well as new tBS t-shirts. More info, including an online version of the latest catalog, can be found at: http://members.aol.com/tbspostop John From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jul 22 06:43:13 1999 From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:43:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Reunion and Hawkeye Site Updates Message-ID: Hi folks Been hearing rumours of a Hawkwind reunion at Brixton Academy over the last month or so. Apparently, it's mentioned in the latest issue of Mojo magazine, with 2 nights pencilled in and possibly a third starting September 4. Anyone going to the Spacehead gig in Coventry this Saturday best note that it's been pulled. The others are on. Over the last week or so, there's been a load of updates on the Hawkeye site: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html They include the Gigs page, with a bundle of forthcoming gigs listed for Terry Ollis's band Little Wing - a Hendrix covers band, plus many more: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/hawkwind_gigs.html The Photos page has also seen a big update, together with smaller thumbnail images for speedier viewing: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/hawkwind_photos.html Another page majorly overhauled has been the New Releases, which goes back to May of last year and has all (i think) of the Worldwide releases: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/new_releases.html Anyone who has any Hawkwind and Related items they wanna sell, trade or are looking for, might want to look at the new Trading Post page: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/trade_post.html Plenty more has taken place on site. Dig around. Talking of sites, anyone from the London area going to the BADAM festival next week? If so, i'm after a lift in anything with 4 wheels or more!!! If you can help, send me a mail: age.p at conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk All the best Age Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Thu Jul 22 12:45:05 1999 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:45:05 +0200 Subject: HW: Dawn og PF In-Reply-To: <27839F4FFBF6D21181E20008C7C5640801AC7236@exdkba04.novo.dk> Message-ID: Hi Scott At 11:21 22.07.99 +0200, you wrote: >Also, where can I find the one that i missed out on that >keven made for the Pink Floyd tribute that HW did that came with >the book? Go to this site http://www.members.pangeatech.com/novadrive/ >Dawn of Hawkwind CD? Did anyone ever figure out where that >version of Master of the Universe came from? It is a well known version. You can find it on several compilations. Do not know the recording date Bernhard From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Jul 22 14:15:30 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:15:30 EDT Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Off topic ... BO2K fun ...] Message-ID: from my friend dan, of the cult of the dead cow... -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Dan MacMillan Subject: [Fwd: Off topic ... BO2K fun ...] Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:19:43 -0700 Size: 1418 URL: From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Jul 22 14:21:30 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:21:30 EDT Subject: Fwd: off: seti@home Message-ID: from dr synth! -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: DWa2898572 at aol.com Subject: Re: off: seti at home Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:07:39 EDT Size: 921 URL: From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Jul 22 15:40:12 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:40:12 -0700 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:49:25 +0100, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > The famed `other list I'm on' () >is currently producing a CD-R of bands on the list, but there are quite a >few of the Man's Ruin type stoner bands on there, in one person or >another. Does that include Noothgrush (we used to share a rehearsal space with 'em)? Ironically, the guy from the Jack Saints (one of the few token non-stoner punk bands on Man's Ruin) is a big Hawkwind fan. This is a great idea, though, to make a CD-R of bands with boc-l members (I wonder if we could get the bands that 'XXX ' and '' are involved with to participate :^) ?). I suppose I could even volunteer to organize it, if no one else will. BUT - if I do, that means it will get done later rather than sooner. It should be no problem for us to fill up a 74-minute CD-R (if there's any question of that, we can just throw on an extra Das Ludicroix jam to take it to the limit). > Nobody ever mentions their musical activities on BOC-L except the >members/participants of Das Ludicroix, it seems to me: what are other >people doing? I just checked the archives and found about a dozen instances of me hyping up various bands I've been in, but since I've been asked :^) ... my current primary musical outlets are: Dogbreath bassist/vocalist - 3-chord loud,fast,simple punk/pop (songs < 3 minutes) (CD on Polypore records this fall) Primordial Undermind violinist - extended hard rock psychedelic jamming (songs > 6 minutes) (CD on Camera Obscura in September) ... but I'm always involved with various projects, including solo recordings (such as the one I mixed last night for inclusion on the boc-l member collection). Who else? -Doug ceres at sirius.com From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Thu Jul 22 15:29:36 1999 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:29:36 -0500 Subject: off: Ozrics Message-ID: Just saw the Ozrics at First Avenue in Minneapolis last night. Great show, they played about 125 minutes. Lots of fancy lights and projections. The opener, Star People, was a real surprise, kind of like Bryan Ferry meets Syd Barret, or maybe Dean Martin meets Sun RA, take your pick. Do check out Star People if you get the chance. I have great dat of the Ozrics show, made from some AKG's and a Lunatec pre. I'll be transferring it to CDR and will be up for a trade in the near future, if anybody is interested contact me privately. On another note; those of you thinking of flying to SD99 here's a little tip that worked good for me. Shop around for fares to Pittsburg and Columbus and maybe even Toledo and erie. For me and my friend to fly to Cleveland it would have been $700.00 roundtrip, to fly to Pittsburg it's $290.00 roundtrip. And since Pittsburg is about 100 miles from Nelson that's our ticket. Point is there can be a huge difference in airfares to cities that are fairly close to each other. Hope to see you all there. From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jul 22 11:50:47 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:50:47 +0000 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: Hi Dave, You have it a little sideways, but that is the basic problem, however, if you set it up right and everyone experiences their own playing delayed(this takes some getting used to) as well as the overall mix, the streaming capability of the musicians modem is the only impediment. I have also sent MIDI performance data over a phone modem, and its amazing! Especially on Macs (no slur on PCs, just Macs are for audio, PCs are for...I forget, why do people like them? ...Ohh, yeah, their bosses meke 'em use 'em... that and Bil Gates subliminal image in every Microsoft product...) Its when you're listening directly to yourself that you screw up. Try playing through a digital delay 100% wet. Same thing. Thanks for the feedback (no pun intended). Chris Dave Greenhalgh wrote: > > Tried this once a while ago. I can't speak for DSL and Cable Modems, but the best > I ever managed for online jamming was broadcasting MIDI data rather than the audio > itself. Mind you - our "hub" didn't have the kind of computer muscle needed to > receive the independent audio streams, mix them and turn them round fast enough. It > was wierd, everything you played came back a bit later. > > Nice idea though. > > Dave > > Christopher Bruce wrote: > > > Hmmm... > > > > I've just found myself employed by a major institution who shall remain > > nameless for my own sake, and it so happens that I am controlling an Internet > > domain server dedicated to wideband video/voice/data, but only for short > > intervals during work hours. The software is there for any Mac users already - > > will any NT/98/2000b folks speak up(?) with apps so folks that meet here on > > boc-l can do an online realtime jam? Am I asking too much of the musicians to > > get with the software? This could be the start of something... I've already > > thought of streaming HW and GD audio when the server is not officially busy... > > Help! I'm overburdened with possibilities... > > > > CB > > Any votes for RA or mp3? Let me know. > > -- > Dave Greenhalgh > > ICQ#33513470 From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jul 22 11:56:01 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:56:01 +0000 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: MPEG Layer 3 it is then. Just curious, what esoteric system ARE you running... an abacus or a Thinking Machine...just wondering, I have to work on Sun, NT, and Mac at work, plus the 4CPU Alpha server, and RA has got around to all but the Sun. It still sucks bandwidth, though. Paul Mather wrote: > > On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Christopher Bruce wrote: > > => Any votes for RA or mp3? Let me know. > > My hardware cannot run M$-Windoze (note, I said *cannot*, not "will > not"), and is not popular enough to be graced by a binary for the > proprietary RealAudio format. But, it can handle MPEG audio just fine. > > I'll let you guess which one I vote for. :-) > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." > --- James Marshall Hendrix From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jul 22 12:17:31 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:17:31 +0000 Subject: off: seti@home Message-ID: Gekke Henkie wrote: > > Hi all, > > I do not know if any of you is involved in the seti at home project, the > site is at: http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ but I am. i thought it > would/could be nice to start a group of HW/BOC fans trackin down > interstellar intelligeces. I have not created one yet, so let me know > what you all think of this. > > Space does not care, or does it? > > --BArt This is a great crowd for something like this! Well thought! My only qualm is that aside from the folks you meet here, its hard enough to find intelligence at home! Count me in, and all the CPU cycles my boss can afford;) Chris B From crow at ASCENT.NET Thu Jul 22 16:33:10 1999 From: crow at ASCENT.NET (crow) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:33:10 -0400 Subject: new tape swap/ what I've been up to musically Message-ID: What have I done? I never expected this much of a response to my idea. I've seen posts from people I haven't ever heard of!! This is cool!! As far as what I've been up to with my music... nothing. Actually, I've taken some of my old demos and had them transfered to CD-R, passed out a few to friends, sold a few (very few). Most of what I play I consider basic rock&roll. It's very hard for me to classify my own material. It's all original. I'm about 99% self-taught and have learned very little in the way of covers. It looks as if we're going to have everything from speed metal to space rock to classic rock to...? Looks like the only thing we're missing is a Donny & Marie tribute band (I'll leave that up to Torgo & AB). One more thing. Seem's as if we're also missing someone to grab this puppy by the reighns and make it fly. There's got to be at least one adventurous soul out there who could handle the strain of our ear-shattering, brain-damaging instruments. Let that person stand before us as we bow down pleading for a good mix. Come on. We're waiting. crow music IS life. the rest are just details. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Jul 22 16:42:48 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:42:48 -0400 Subject: OFF: Ozrics In-Reply-To: <37977120.80B41524@uswest.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Dan Witt wrote: => Just saw the Ozrics at First Avenue in Minneapolis last night. Great => show, they played about 125 minutes. Lots of fancy lights and => projections. The opener, Star People, was a real surprise, kind of like => Bryan Ferry meets Syd Barret, or maybe Dean Martin meets Sun RA, take => your pick. Do check out Star People if you get the chance. I saw the Ozrics at Ziggy's, Winston-Salem, NC on this tour, and arrived during the opening set of Star People. Quite bemusing. They struck me as being a kind of dada outfit, who freely (and sometimes randomly:) ranged over several disparate styles. There is definitely an air of performance art about them, all smartly decked out in those tuxedos and affected antics. It's my guess that folks will either love them or hate them. Some of the spoken word pieces reminded me of early Hawkwind, albeit less heavy (though Star People can lay down some brutal riffs). => I have great dat of the Ozrics show, made from some AKG's and a Lunatec => pre. I'll be transferring it to CDR and will be up for a trade in the => near future, if anybody is interested contact me privately. Do the Ozrics officially allow taping? I ask because I saw at least one mic rig in front of the soundboard at the gig I went to, and one or two people with camcorders, too. I have to say I was sorely disappointed with the Ozrics merchandise. I was all set to buy a 1999 tour t-shirt only to find they didn't have one (just generic Ozrics shirts, and a Blim "creation"). Plus, they'd run out of the latest CD release (which I subsequently got in my local shop), and, in fact, had no CDs or other audio for sale. Cheers, Paul. NP: Ozric Tentacles, _Waterfall Cities_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Jul 22 17:17:57 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:17:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap In-Reply-To: <37973F11.EE58519@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Christopher Bruce wrote: => MPEG Layer 3 it is then. Just curious, what esoteric system ARE you running... => an abacus or a Thinking Machine...just wondering, I have to work on Sun, NT, => and Mac at work, plus the 4CPU Alpha server, and RA has got around to all but => the Sun. It still sucks bandwidth, though. Speaking of Thinking Machines, I do use an Intel Paragon occasionally :-) (100+ CPU multiprocessor system populated with i860s), but my desktop machine is a DEC 3000/500S (DEC 21064 CPU) running Digital Unix 4.0D. I just looked on the RealAudio site again for players, but Digital Unix was not supported (though Sun Solaris and SunOS for Sun was). (Even our AIX boxes here---all of which are decked out with sound cards---are not supported.) As for my own home system, I have a DECstation 3100 (MIPS R2000 CPU) and headless turbochannel DEC 3000/300LX (DEC 21064 alpha CPU), both of which were bought at surplus auctions. (Reduce, reuse, recycle!;) Nuthin' esoteric; just devoid of Intel x86 and Micro$oft... ;-) We do have some Windoze (NT and 95) machines in our lab here, but they are inconvenient to use (i.e., you can't use them remotely). (They tend to crash a lot, too.) Cheers, Paul. NP: Hawkwind, _Dawn of Hawkwind_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Thu Jul 22 18:09:41 1999 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:09:41 -0500 Subject: OFF: Ozrics Message-ID: > Do the Ozrics officially allow taping? I ask because I saw at least one > mic rig in front of the soundboard at the gig I went to, and one or two > people with camcorders, too. Yes they allow audience taping. However they apparently do not allow board access anymore. When I asked the Ozric's soundman for a board patch he laughed sarcasticly, he seemed like he had no appreciation for the fans there, he yawned throughout the night like he was bored to death. This is a different soundman than from the 94 tour. From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jul 22 20:04:04 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:04:04 +0900 Subject: off: seti@home Message-ID: They all laughed at me when I posted a similar note earlier Anyway, I'm running the proggie in the background, too. Check also alt.sci.seti for some informed discussion, some (alright, quite a lot) not so informed Fluff! dave Gekke Henkie wrote: > Hi all, > > I do not know if any of you is involved in the seti at home project, the > site is at: http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ but I am. i thought it > would/could be nice to start a group of HW/BOC fans trackin down > interstellar intelligeces. I have not created one yet, so let me know > what you all think of this. > > Space does not care, or does it? > > --BArt -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Jul 22 20:09:53 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 01:09:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: Tape swap 1999 In-Reply-To: <000501bea85d$87b0fa20$ac2b63c3@default> Message-ID: I finally got round to posting the first tape I received (sorry for the delay James!), and listened to the second. OK, who's the culprit for "Cosmic Rings & Heavy Things": you're going to cost me a fortune when I'm back in work! Cannot resist serious (Hammond?) organ-abuse. And where did that version of "The Snake" come from??????????? Rus - the humour tape was - erm - interesting, but the only things with lasting appeal were those I was already familiar with (sorry Rus). Cheers, Chrisw "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Jul 22 20:04:30 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 01:04:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: Ozzfest In-Reply-To: <000501bea85d$87b0fa20$ac2b63c3@default> Message-ID: If anybody was planning to go to the "farewell" Ozzfest, according to something I heard on the radio today, they've decided to postpone it 'til Dec 21/22 so they can do it on "home ground" at the NEC. Cheers, ChrisW LastPlayed: BOC-L Tape/Cosmic Rings And Heavy Things "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jul 22 20:25:00 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:25:00 +0900 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: Christopher Bruce wrote: > Hi Dave, > You have it a little sideways, but that is the basic problem, however, if you > set it up right and everyone experiences their own playing delayed(this takes > some getting used to) as well as the overall mix, Yep, it's that delay thing that got me. Playing through a delay set 100% effected is something I can deal with, at least the delay is constant. When we tried on-line jams a while ago it was in the UK on 33.6 Modems using a combination of virgin, AOL and demon as the ISPs. Only the guys on demon got anything like a constant delay. The rest of us got breaks in transmission and essentially random delays. I haven't tried it for a while, though but it seems to me that the net has got slower so unless it all runs through the same ISP ... I don't know, I'm not a networks expert!! I have another ISP local here with ISDN. Maybe try that over the weekend, but Japanese traffic levels are huge and the ISDN drop out rate is worse that the phone-line connection that I use to Telnet into Virgin! > Especially on Macs Is there any other machine for music MP3 was a bit esoteric! -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jul 22 20:26:34 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:26:34 +0900 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: Sorry, wrong button, last message was supposed to be direct to Chris, not the list. Sorry. Sorry. -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jul 22 17:25:39 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 21:25:39 +0000 Subject: Fwd: off: seti@home Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > > from dr synth! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: off: seti at home > Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:07:39 EDT > From: DWa2898572 at aol.com > To: DASLUD at aol.com > > I'm not sure I want to A)infect more primitive intellegences with Earth like > qualities(ie Racism, Capitalism, Sexism etc), nor B)bother the more advanced > with our trivial Earthlike qualities! After all, remember what happened when > Columbus invaded North America? But if they show unexpectedly, and want to > talk about how things are on the South 40 of this system, I'd be the first to > bring some coffee & a few Js for a chat! Maybe they'd even be able to > perceive AP MUSIC! > D Dude, they ARE AP Music! I'm sorry but nowhere else on the 'net will anyone understand that statement! (hats off to DW) You bring the Js, something tells me they take it black with two cubes...;) CB From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jul 22 17:31:54 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 21:31:54 +0000 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: > > On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:49:25 +0100, Jonathan Jarrett > wrote: > > The famed `other list I'm on' () > >is currently producing a CD-R of bands on the list, but there are quite a > >few of the Man's Ruin type stoner bands on there, in one person or > >another. > > Does that include Noothgrush (we used to share a rehearsal space with 'em)? > Ironically, the guy from the Jack Saints (one of the few token non-stoner > punk bands on Man's Ruin) is a big Hawkwind fan. > > This is a great idea, though, to make a CD-R of bands with boc-l members (I > wonder if we could get the bands that 'XXX ' > and '' are involved with to participate :^) ?). I > suppose I could even volunteer to organize it, if no one else will. BUT - > if I do, that means it will get done later rather than sooner. It should > be no problem for us to fill up a 74-minute CD-R (if there's any question > of that, we can just throw on an extra Das Ludicroix jam to take it to the > limit). > > > Nobody ever mentions their musical activities on BOC-L except the > >members/participants of Das Ludicroix, it seems to me: what are other > >people doing? > > I just checked the archives and found about a dozen instances of me hyping > up various bands I've been in, but since I've been asked :^) ... > > my current primary musical outlets are: > Dogbreath bassist/vocalist - 3-chord loud,fast,simple punk/pop (songs < 3 > minutes) > (CD on Polypore records this fall) > Primordial Undermind violinist - extended hard rock psychedelic jamming > (songs > 6 minutes) > (CD on Camera Obscura in September) > > ... but I'm always involved with various projects, including solo > recordings (such as the one I mixed last night for inclusion on the boc-l > member collection). > > Who else? > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com Engineer with 19 years experience in Spacerock bands volunteers bandwidth and realtime to all HW-minded comers... Resume on request... CB - HW FOH sound 89,90,91 US tours... inc. Calif. BStorm, Palace Springs eng'ing. MP3 is the winner, now, when do you guys want to play? Its all up to you... From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jul 22 17:41:56 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 21:41:56 +0000 Subject: new tape swap/ what I've been up to musically Message-ID: > crow wrote: > > What have I done? I never expected this much > of a response to my idea. I've seen posts from > people I haven't ever heard of!! This is cool!! > > As far as what I've been up to with my music... > nothing. Actually, I've taken some of my old demos > and had them transfered to CD-R, passed out a > few to friends, sold a few (very few). > > Most of what I play I consider basic rock&roll. > It's very hard for me to classify my own material. > It's all original. I'm about 99% self-taught and have > learned very little in the way of covers. > > It looks as if we're going to have everything from > speed metal to space rock to classic rock to...? > Looks like the only thing we're missing is a Donny & > Marie tribute band (I'll leave that up to Torgo & AB). > > One more thing. Seem's as if we're also missing > someone to grab this puppy by the reighns and make > it fly. There's got to be at least one adventurous soul > out there who could handle the strain of our > ear-shattering, brain-damaging instruments. Let that > person stand before us as we bow down pleading for > a good mix. > > Come on. We're waiting. > > crow > music IS life. the rest are just details. Well, Ive mixed everything from the Grateful Dead to Hawkwind, with many unknown bands in between; if you can get to Boston or get me there (it'll cost you!) I'll make you shine like a Crazy Diamond, for the right "compensation" (money need not apply). I did MFSL Ultradiscs in my spare time! Send a demo and I'll send you an estimate.... Chris Bruce, Hawkwind Front-of-House sound 89,90,91 US/Canada, GD Albany, NY "Dozin' at the Knick" 2CD set. > From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jul 22 17:44:56 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 21:44:56 +0000 Subject: OFF: Ozrics Message-ID: Paul Mather wrote: > > On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Dan Witt wrote: > > => Just saw the Ozrics at First Avenue in Minneapolis last night. Great > => show, they played about 125 minutes. Lots of fancy lights and > => projections. The opener, Star People, was a real surprise, kind of like > => Bryan Ferry meets Syd Barret, or maybe Dean Martin meets Sun RA, take > => your pick. Do check out Star People if you get the chance. > > I saw the Ozrics at Ziggy's, Winston-Salem, NC on this tour, and arrived > during the opening set of Star People. Quite bemusing. They struck me > as being a kind of dada outfit, who freely (and sometimes randomly:) > ranged over several disparate styles. There is definitely an air of > performance art about them, all smartly decked out in those tuxedos and > affected antics. It's my guess that folks will either love them or hate > them. Some of the spoken word pieces reminded me of early Hawkwind, > albeit less heavy (though Star People can lay down some brutal riffs). > > => I have great dat of the Ozrics show, made from some AKG's and a Lunatec > => pre. I'll be transferring it to CDR and will be up for a trade in the > => near future, if anybody is interested contact me privately. > > Do the Ozrics officially allow taping? I ask because I saw at least one > mic rig in front of the soundboard at the gig I went to, and one or two > people with camcorders, too. > > I have to say I was sorely disappointed with the Ozrics merchandise. I > was all set to buy a 1999 tour t-shirt only to find they didn't have one > (just generic Ozrics shirts, and a Blim "creation"). Plus, they'd run > out of the latest CD release (which I subsequently got in my local > shop), and, in fact, had no CDs or other audio for sale. > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > NP: Ozric Tentacles, _Waterfall Cities_ > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." > --- James Marshall Hendrix Yeah, they're cool on taping. I have Masters of their first US appearances on VHS... no problem, into it totally... CB From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jul 22 18:53:20 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:53:20 +0000 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: Dave Greenhalgh wrote: > > Christopher Bruce wrote: > > > Hi Dave, > > You have it a little sideways, but that is the basic problem, however, if you > > set it up right and everyone experiences their own playing delayed(this takes > > some getting used to) as well as the overall mix, > > Yep, it's that delay thing that got me. Playing through a delay set 100% effected is > something I can deal with, at least the delay is constant. When we tried on-line jams a > while ago it was in the UK on 33.6 Modems using a combination of virgin, AOL and demon as > the ISPs. Only the guys on demon got anything like a constant delay. The rest of us got > breaks in transmission and essentially random delays. > > I haven't tried it for a while, though but it seems to me that the net has got slower so > unless it all runs through the same ISP ... I don't know, I'm not a networks expert!! I > have another ISP local here with ISDN. Maybe try that over the weekend, but Japanese > traffic levels are huge and the ISDN drop out rate is worse that the phone-line connection > that I use to Telnet into Virgin! > > > Especially on Macs > > Is there any other machine for music > > MP3 was a bit esoteric! > -- > Dave Greenhalgh > > ICQ#33513470 Right on the money, dave. Try a DSL or get back to me on att. They are running Roadrunner here and it blazes at 1.5 MBPS, only $20 a month, less if you have cable. Where exactly are you? I'll set you up if you have content. CB From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Jul 22 18:59:17 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:59:17 +0000 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: Dave Greenhalgh wrote: > > Sorry, wrong button, last message was supposed to be direct to Chris, not the list. > Sorry. > > Sorry. > > Get like the rest of us and go "OOOPS!" CB > > -- > Dave Greenhalgh > > ICQ#33513470 From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jul 22 23:19:50 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:19:50 +0900 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: Perhaps Spike Milligan references don't make it across the Atlantic!! Christopher Bruce wrote: > Dave Greenhalgh wrote: > > > > Sorry, wrong button, last message was supposed to be direct to Chris, not the list. > > Sorry. > > > > Sorry. > > > > > > Get like the rest of us and go "OOOPS!" > CB > > > > -- > > Dave Greenhalgh > > > > ICQ#33513470 -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Jul 23 01:50:26 1999 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 00:50:26 -0500 Subject: OFF: Glenn Gould? Message-ID: Just had a strange coincidence happen . . . Got the BOC-L message from Glenn Gould and erased it since I didn't recognize the name. Not a half hour later, I was digging through some CDs I had borrowed from a friend and started reading the back of a Gordian Knot CD. Good stuff! Link from The Laser's Edge: http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~spm29386/ There was a quote: The purpose of art is not the release of a momentary ejection of adrenaline but is, rather, the gradual, lifelong construction of a state of wonder and serenity. Through the ministrations of radio and the phonograph, we are rapidly and quite properly learning to appreciate the elements of aesthetic narcissism - and I use that word in its best sense - and are awakening to the challenge that each man contemplatively create his own divinity. - [Glenn Gould] The listmember never said if he was related! Here's a link to the Glenn Gould Foundation: http://www.glenngould.ca/ and the FAQ: http://www.glenngould.ca/10FAQ.html Trivia for the day. ;-) Karen From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Fri Jul 23 01:53:43 1999 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:53:43 -0700 Subject: HW: Dawn og PF In-Reply-To: <199907221652.SAA14490@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: Or more specifically, go here: http://www.members.pangeatech.com/novadrive/PF.htm I've also made a "Dawn Of Hawkwind" jewel case cover for myself, and if anyone wants this (or a higher-resolution version of the Floyd tribute cover), let me know how large of a file you'd like to receive via e-mail. Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu > > > Hi Scott > > At 11:21 22.07.99 +0200, you wrote: > >Also, where can I find the one that i missed out on that > >keven made for the Pink Floyd tribute that HW did that came with > >the book? > > Go to this site... Bernhard From niko.makila at NOKIA.COM Fri Jul 23 07:28:50 1999 From: niko.makila at NOKIA.COM (niko.makila at NOKIA.COM) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:28:50 +0300 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: > From: EXT Paul Mather [mailto:paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU] > > Nuthin' esoteric; just devoid of Intel x86 and Micro$oft... ;-) Hey x86's not that bad! The bad thing is that no-one has written an OS that uses the more sophisticated features (maybe because they're too slow...). I'll admit that i860's are in some ways even more interesting though. > We do have some Windoze (NT and 95) machines in our lab here, but they > are inconvenient to use (i.e., you can't use them remotely). Check out http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ which claims to work on Win (95, NT and CE), Mac, and several UNIXen. Sometimes it seems that someone has already invented anything you can think of. //niko ObCD: tBS, Eponymous From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Fri Jul 23 07:25:57 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:25:57 +0100 Subject: OFF: Plug plug plug, and stuff. In-Reply-To: <199907230901.FAA14194@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Okay den, plugging oneself season it is .. Currently doing Vocals and backing for Dr. Hasbeen - originally formed '96 as a space band - several Hawks covers but a substantial qty of original work, I've been there for 12 months now, aside from that I have zero musical training or skill, I twiddle with keyboards from time to time and swoosh a bit with vox mix box, s'bout it really except to remind you local readers that us and Spacehead are on tonight, The Flowerpot in Derby - be there or not as the space may be ? I Would happily volunteer some of our stuff and our covers for list-distrib as has been mentioned. Apologies to Brian H btw for not having posted the second tape on yet, sorry Brian I'll see to it early next week, been up to my armpits in work for a few weeks. Cheers for now, gotta go soundcheck - Mr Dibs has got a decent 2K rig arriving soon... Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 23 07:42:23 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:42:23 +0100 Subject: off: seti@home In-Reply-To: Christopher Bruce's message of Thu, 22 Jul 1999 16:17:31 +0000 Message-ID: Christopher Bruce writes: > Gekke Henkie wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I do not know if any of you is involved in the seti at home project, the > > site is at: http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ but I am. i thought it > > would/could be nice to start a group of HW/BOC fans trackin down > > interstellar intelligeces. I have not created one yet, so let me know > > what you all think of this. > > > > Space does not care, or does it? > > > > --BArt > > This is a great crowd for something like this! Well thought! My only qualm is > that aside from the folks you meet here, its hard enough to find intelligence > at home! Count me in, and all the CPU cycles my boss can afford;) Yep. If you set it up, count me in. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jul 23 07:45:36 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 12:45:36 +0100 Subject: HW: Dawn og PF In-Reply-To: Kevin Sommers's message of Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:53:43 -0700 Message-ID: Kevin Sommers writes: > Or more specifically, go here: > http://www.members.pangeatech.com/novadrive/PF.htm > I've also made a "Dawn Of Hawkwind" jewel case cover for myself, and if > anyone wants this (or a higher-resolution version of the Floyd tribute > cover), let me know how large of a file you'd like to receive via e-mail. I'm in. How big is the highest resolution file? FoFP From mwood at MY-DEJA.COM Fri Jul 23 08:06:39 1999 From: mwood at MY-DEJA.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 05:06:39 -0700 Subject: HW: Dawn og PF Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 22:53:43 Kevin Sommers wrote: >Or more specifically, go here: >I've also made a "Dawn Of Hawkwind" jewel case cover for myself, and if >anyone wants this (or a higher-resolution version of the Floyd tribute >cover), let me know how large of a file you'd like to receive via e-mail. Hi Kevin - I'd like to get your cover for the Dawn of Hawkwind CD, please! Best resolution possible, please, my mailer can take it! Thanks! MWood NP: Van der Graaf Generator: _Pawn Hearts_ --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Fri Jul 23 09:47:13 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 23:47:13 +1000 Subject: HW: The new EMI releases Message-ID: Just seen on a german catalogue new release update: 1) Artist : HAWKWIND Title : 30 YEARS ANTHOLOGY Type : 3-CD Rel.date: 06-08-99 Label : EMI Suffix : 5217512 2) Artist : HAWKWIND Title : EPOCH-ECLIPSE Type : CD Rel.date: 06-08-99 Label : EMI Suffix : 5217472 Naturally I've mailed both the German wholesaler and EMI to see if there are any further details available yet. They are damned expensive though (at least through Germany), just shy of 30DM for the CD and 65DM for the 3CD wholesale!!! Soniqu? -- PO Box 378 Paul Ward Ashburton http://sonique.net VIC 3147 (time permitting) Mob:0418 524744 sonique at sonique.net From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Fri Jul 23 10:12:25 1999 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (James A Hogard) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:12:25 -0500 Subject: OFF: Tape swap 1999 Message-ID: ChrisW: > I finally got round to posting the first tape I received (sorry for > the > delay James!), and listened to the second. I, er, also just sent off #1 to Stuart, so no apologies to me are needed. Now that the wife's not working (impending maternity), I can send her round to the post more often ;) and the tapes will flow, and he who controls the tapes, controls ... oh, never mind. I slipped a tasty treat (or an inoculating dose) of four or so of my band's songs into the tape I made. Thus will participants of both this trade and the proposed "different type of tape swap" know what to dread. It's, uh, "discrete altercative rock," by the way. Hogard From adrian.brevard at EDS.COM Fri Jul 23 10:16:19 1999 From: adrian.brevard at EDS.COM (Brevard, Adrian R) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:16:19 -0400 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap Message-ID: John Swartz was quietly napping at his terminal when he read: > > Sounds boss. John Swartz can you do Still Burnin' or the Imaginos version > of Astronomy? Can non-muscians get copies of this thing? >Huh? Are you volunteering me for somenthing on my bass here? I can't >say that I've ever played either of those 2 tunes. I can play along to >a number of tBS tunes though, or maybe "Dominance and Submission"... >John C'mon John you know you are my fave bass player that no one has heard of 8>) Naw thought you might want to get in on this project Crow suggested. Sounds like fun if it can be pulled off. Ya for the record I love the bass line in Imaginos-Astronomy. Ghost in the Ruins NP - Velvet Hammer "Live" From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jul 23 10:17:49 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 10:17:49 -0400 Subject: OFF: A different type of tape swap In-Reply-To: <8354A754F252D211ACB60008C7A45975495C91@eseis01nok> Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 niko.makila at NOKIA.COM wrote: => Hey x86's not that bad! The bad thing is that no-one has written an OS that => uses the more sophisticated features (maybe because they're too slow...). Not necessarily bad, but nonetheless a prisoner of the "golden handcuffs" of backwards compatibility with its ancestors (8086, 80286, 80386, etc., all of which biased future development). What I really meant was my systems were devoid of what people consider ubiquitous: x86 architecture and Micro$oft software. (Everyone runs Windoze, right?;) Maybe sometime soon they'll make it illegal *not* to run Windoze on x86 platforms? ;-) => > We do have some Windoze (NT and 95) machines in our lab here, but they => > are inconvenient to use (i.e., you can't use them remotely). => => Check out http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ which claims to work on Win => (95, NT and CE), Mac, and several UNIXen. Actually, I'd heard of VNC, because the *official* Unix bigot in our lab (even more so than I appear to be:) used to insist that it be installed on any Windoze machine he might potentially have to use (so he could connect to his Unix box). But, at that time, at least, I recall you could only get a VNC *client* for Windoze, which is the opposite of what I need. Now, it seems, they have a VNC server for Windoze, albeit a non-multiuser one (which is not very useful). I'll give it a try... Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Fri Jul 23 10:46:26 1999 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:46:26 +0200 Subject: HW: The new EMI releases In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Just seen on a german catalogue new release update: > >1) > >Artist : HAWKWIND >Title : 30 YEARS ANTHOLOGY >Type : 3-CD Rel.date: 06-08-99 >Label : EMI >Suffix : 5217512 > >2) > >Artist : HAWKWIND >Title : EPOCH-ECLIPSE >Type : CD Rel.date: 06-08-99 >Label : EMI >Suffix : 5217472 > >Naturally I've mailed both the German wholesaler and EMI to see if there are >any further details available yet. They are damned expensive though (at least >through Germany), just shy of 30DM for the CD and 65DM for the 3CD >wholesale!!! > >Soniqu? > what is the url of this emi page. i looked on http://www.emimusic.de/ and did not see anything mentioned about hawkwind. andre From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Fri Jul 23 11:42:42 1999 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:42:42 -0400 Subject: Anubian Lights Message-ID: Saw the Anubian Lights last night in Los Angeles. It was a warm up show for the Strange Daze 99 show. Great show!! They played for approx. an hour and sounded great. Lots of visuals and films. Some of the songs were remixed versions of what is found on their cds. I felt they sounded even better live. Looking forward to SD 99!! Dan From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Fri Jul 23 13:57:50 1999 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 13:57:50 EDT Subject: off: Ozrics Message-ID: Who did the light show for Ozrics? Who's doin the light show for the Hawks? Any word on the Hawk shows in Brixton??? To all those who have enguired about the 'little ladies' health, Bev is just fine. Seems she is suffering from a faint/seizure disorder-nothing serious- but she has been told by the doctor to avoid alcohol at concerts where strobes are used and wear shades. All this time we've been putting the blame on herb and other substances, when in fact, it was the beer. regards, Bill Stewart From john.m.gray at CWIX.COM Fri Jul 23 14:10:16 1999 From: john.m.gray at CWIX.COM (John Gray) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 11:10:16 -0700 Subject: Silver Machine 7" Message-ID: Oh happy day! Just opened my mail and am staring at a copy of SM from Peru. I didn't know it was released there, I thought the seller might have made a mistake, but apparently not. John From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jul 23 14:28:25 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:28:25 -0400 Subject: off: Ozrics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Bill Stewart wrote: => Who did the light show for Ozrics? Who's doin the light show for the Hawks? John thanked the person doing the light show at the gig I went to, but because he was mumbling, I couldn't make out the name. The light show was good, except for those times it was obliterated when they went way overboard with the strobes (which was too often for my liking). What's the deal with those strobes? Do they think they get a bulk usage rate or something? ;-) Speaking of John and mumbling, the guy is a trip to watch in concert. He looked well out of it from the off, and when not going about in exaggerated pantomime, he'd be wailing away continuously in a world of his own on wind instruments from his little bag he brought on stage with him---mostly inaudible, as he'd only occasionally wander close enough to his mic for it to pick anything up. Bizarre... The show was great, and everyone looked to be having a ton of fun on stage. Check 'em out. Cheers, Paul. NP: Bevis Frond, _Vavona Burr_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From farmer at ALLENCC.NET Fri Jul 23 16:10:09 1999 From: farmer at ALLENCC.NET (Don Farmer) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:10:09 CST Subject: BOC concert Message-ID: I just read that Blue Oyster Cult, Foghat, and Nazareth are going to be playing at the KY 99.7 Summer Jam in Kansas City on August 21 at Starlight Theather. Anybody else heard about that? I didn't know they were coming to the mid-west. I'm there!! Don Farmer. From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Fri Jul 23 14:34:46 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 14:34:46 -0400 Subject: MoFi BOC / T&M gold disc In-Reply-To: <199907121511.QAA13848@aeolians.bt.co.uk>; from bart on Mon, Jul 12, 1999 at 04:11:23PM +0100 Message-ID: On Mon, Jul 12, 1999 at 04:11:23PM +0100, bart wrote: > > >One final point to anybody that cares. Assuming the printed lyrics are pretty > > >definitive, > > > > Why? Have they ever been right before? > > > > (well, I haven't seen Bolle's BOC fanclub lyric sheet, but I'd probably > > lend some credence to that over my green and white computer paper > > 50 cents printed lyrics...) > > True, but since the boc-l lyrics partially (mostly?) came from Steve Swann and > other old timers straining to decypher words from records around 91/92 (I just > about remember that), I'd think the liner notes are more accurate. Hey! The Imaginos Lyrics Transcription Project was one of the great achievements in the history of this list. After months of listening to those verses over and over (until some members of the ILTP succumbed to a kind of poetical insanity), I think we ended up getting about 30% of the lyrics right. ;-) (Actually, the BOC-L lyrics have long since been corrected to match up with Bolle's much more accurate fan club lyric sheets). Steve swann at plutonia.com From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jul 23 20:56:43 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 09:56:43 +0900 Subject: HW: Dawn og PF Message-ID: Me too, please. Dave M Holmes wrote: > Kevin Sommers writes: > > > Or more specifically, go here: > > http://www.members.pangeatech.com/novadrive/PF.htm > > I've also made a "Dawn Of Hawkwind" jewel case cover for myself, and if > > anyone wants this (or a higher-resolution version of the Floyd tribute > > cover), let me know how large of a file you'd like to receive via e-mail. > > I'm in. How big is the highest resolution file? > > FoFP -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Sat Jul 24 06:34:42 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:34:42 +1000 Subject: HW: The new EMI releases Message-ID: On 23 Jul 99, at 16:46, cosmos wrote: > >Artist : HAWKWIND > >Title : 30 YEARS ANTHOLOGY > > > >Artist : HAWKWIND > >Title : EPOCH-ECLIPSE > > what is the url of this emi page. > i looked on http://www.emimusic.de/ and did not see anything mentioned about > hawkwind. It wasn't from an EMI website - it was from a BBS for a german wholesaler. The CD's would be coming from EMI UK Soniqu? -- PO Box 378 Paul Ward Ashburton http://sonique.net VIC 3147 (time permitting) Mob:0418 524744 sonique at sonique.net From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Sat Jul 24 11:12:51 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:12:51 +0100 Subject: HW: Buxton gig Message-ID: Bad news! We have just heard that the Buxton BADAM festival has been stopped by the council. I don't know if the organisers can appeal or not. We are still playing at the Derby Rock and Blues Festival on the Friday night (20 miles from Buxton festival). We await confirmation of the cancelling of BADAM. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news! Kris From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Sat Jul 24 11:20:19 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:20:19 +0100 Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine Message-ID: A request from the band. They want to find how to say "I've got a silver machine" in as many different languages as possible. Could you include phonetic pronunciation guides! Or send attach voice samples (is this possible?) I think that they are going to sample them all for use in a live gig????? Kris From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sat Jul 24 12:05:54 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:05:54 +0100 Subject: OFF:OZRIC TENTACLES LIVE SHOTS Message-ID: Taken at their July 9th show at Wetlands can be found at; http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot/ozric.html Thanks to Adam at StriderNews, SAH -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "There's no walls in music. It's like water; there's currents." --Corey Harris StriderNews http://members.theglobe.com/stridernews/index.htm From Mariej at BIGWIG.NET Sat Jul 24 15:34:00 1999 From: Mariej at BIGWIG.NET (Marie Jenkinson) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:34:00 +0100 Subject: BADAM Bad News thanks to Derbyshire C***stabulary Message-ID: This is the situation as I understand it regarding BADAM: The festival licence was revoked late on Thursday night by Derbyshire Constabulary regarding ' environmental and health and safety' issues. They managed to convince the local magistrate to stop the festival knowing that there was no time for BADAM organisers to appeal. The local council (and local police for that matter) were quite happy with all health and safety issues and had been for several months. The licence had been granted by the local council - obviously not good enough for the Derbyshire Constabulary. To let your displeasure be heard feel free to call them and let them know, after all we tax payers pay their wages. The phone number for Buxton Police is 01298 72100 and for Derbyshire HQ 01773 570100 - ask for A-Division. The organisers are working overtime to save the festival - either at the original site, an alternative site or an indoor venue (in which case a partial ticket refund will be given to compensate for the lack of camping) High Peak Council have now taken over the organisation of the festival which should add credibility to the appeal of the licence. Expect this to happen in five or six weeks time. The organisers ask people to be patient about ticket refunds until this has been confirmed. Everyone is very disappointed about this but the people involved are not going to give up on the festival just yet. Cheers - keep your fingers crossed. Marie and Neil From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Jul 24 17:25:45 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:25:45 EDT Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine...in indian Message-ID: In a message dated 7/24/99 11:19:27 AM, boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK writes: <" From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Jul 24 17:41:53 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:41:53 EDT Subject: OFF/HW: Anubian Lights Message-ID: In a message dated 99-07-23 11:45:49 EDT, you write: << Saw the Anubian Lights last night in Los Angeles. It was a warm up show for the Strange Daze 99 show. Great show!! They played for approx. an hour and sounded great. Lots of visuals and films. Some of the songs were remixed versions of what is found on their cds. I felt they sounded even better live. Looking forward to SD 99!! Dan >> ----Damnit! Was this advertised at all?? I've got to find out how to be aware of any SoCal gigs...any suggestions? I've corresponded a bit w/T. Grenas, but of course he's pretty busy, so I don't know if he can fill me in... Chuck From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Jul 24 17:43:55 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 17:43:55 EDT Subject: " silver machine" in indian, take two Message-ID: well, i see that the miserably inconsistent AOL forwarding has let me down again, so i've clipped it this time as opposed to forwarding. why do i stay on AOL? because the access call is free....sigh.... ======================== < ============ howdy there ma'm... i thought it would be easy to go into various AOL chat rooms and get one line translated...but i've been ignored, asked to leave a chat full of peruvians, but so far i DID get it in indian, from a room called "bombay" ...no phonetics, unfortunately, but... "mere pas chandi ki machine hai" i'll keep working on it... "<>" From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Jul 24 16:43:15 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 16:43:15 -0400 Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine Message-ID: >In a message dated 7/24/99 11:19:27 AM, boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK writes: > >A request from the band. They want to find how to say "I've got a silver >machine" in as many different languages as possible. Could you include >phonetic pronunciation guides! Or send attach voice samples (is this >possible?) I think that they are going to sample them all for use in a live >gig????? > >Kris Awhile ago, someone posted about Alta Vista's translation engine, so I tried it out. These are the not-so-perfect results.... http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate? English-French: French-English reverse check: j'ai argent?e une machine I silver plated a machine English-German: German-English reverse check: ich habe eine silberne Maschine I have a silver machine English-Italian: Italian-English reverse check: (have.got) d'argento una macchina (have.got) of silver one machine English-Portugeuse: Portugeuse-English reverse check: eu (have.got) de prata uma m?quina I (have.got) of silver a machine English-Spanish: Spanish-English reverse check: tengo de plata una m?quina I have of silver a machine Using 'I have a silver machine' for the two that couldn't understand 'have got', produced these answers (not much difference)... English-Italian: Italian-English reverse check: ho d'argento una macchina I have of silver one machine English-Portugeuse: Portugeuse-English reverse check: eu tenho de prata uma m?quina I have of silver a machine I hardly think these are absolutely correct. I'd be inclined to think that the article (whether une, uma, or una) should precede the 'silver' in all these cases, as the German one ended up. I work with a Russian and several Chinese people...I'll ask them next time I see them. Keith H. (FAA) From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jul 24 18:36:06 1999 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 15:36:06 PDT Subject: BOC: Must Know.... Message-ID: Ladles and Jellyspoons, finally I'm returning to the States (after, oh, fifteen years) and I'm gonna spend a fortnight in San Francisco. It would really make this holiday if I got to see the Cult. Y'know what I'm saying.........this could be soooo special. So. Probably the last two weeks in November. Does anyone know if they're playing in California (hopefully near SF, I won't have the cash to travel far) in late November???? Here's some trivia. My girlfriend (I shiver even to think of her) cried when she heard _(Then Came) The Last Days Of May_. It scared me. It was the _OYFOOYK_ version (unsurpassable) and I played her it on 28th May. It was, shall we say, an unexpected reaction. I then found out her uncle had been shot by a dealer he was trying to rip off, so I discovered the error of my ways. Oh well, life goes on. Oh..last thing - did BOC ever play Australia?? C.. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Jul 24 18:50:54 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 18:50:54 EDT Subject: HW: watashi motsu hitotsu no gin kakai Message-ID: dear kris xxx, i went to my japanese-american dictionary for this one... the japanese dont put together sentences like in english; this is a word-for-word translation of the line "i've got a silver machine"; i hope to get a better translation in an AOL chat... "watashi motsu hitotsu no gin kakai" pronounced, approximately: WA-tah-she/ MOAT-soo/ hi*-TOTE-soo/no/gin**/KICK-ah-ee *soft, like "hit" **soft, like "give" i'm merely a fan of the language, not a student. (someday maybe)...the way it would be spoken in japanese might come off in english more like "a machine of silver i have". i hope to get the right version soon stay tuned for yugoslavian! (maybe) "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Jul 24 19:05:22 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 19:05:22 EDT Subject: HW: silver machine some more...servo-croation Message-ID: 'scuse me, not yugoslavian, servo-croation.... this is what my friend emina, who had to flee to holland from bosnia some time back, has to say. some editing corrections (spelling/punctuation) by moi. i'll give her more details following this ========= <> =================== i dont know how urgently this translation is needed but i'll suggest using capitalized accents on words, like i just did w/the japanese. "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Jul 24 19:09:40 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 19:09:40 EDT Subject: HW: watashi motsu hitotsu no gin kakai Message-ID: In a message dated 7/24/99 6:57:15 PM, DASLUD at aol.com writes: <> let's try KOCK-ah -ee "<>" From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Jul 24 19:17:06 1999 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 00:17:06 +0100 Subject: BADAM Bad News thanks to Derbyshire C***stabulary Message-ID: Marie Jenkinson wrote: > > This is the situation as I understand it regarding BADAM: > > The festival licence was revoked late on Thursday night by Derbyshire > Constabulary regarding ' environmental and health and safety' issues. They > managed to convince the local magistrate to stop the festival knowing that > there was no time for BADAM organisers to appeal. Perhaps I'm being naive here but it seems to me that the constabulary have only made matters worse by revoking the licence so close to the event - how on earth are the organisers going to be able to let folk know in time? We here are fortunate to get this news through the net but what about those who can't? The advertising posters have been distributed for ages - what about people who were planning to come and buy tickets at the gate? How can they possibly be warned in advance that it's been cancelled? Surely, surely a Buxton full of indignant folk who have already made holiday plans, possibly booked accommodation, have bought travel tickets that only allow you to travel on certain days, are maybe even coming from abroad and who arrive to discover that there is no festival is going to be FAR more problematic than policing a crowd of folk who come to enjoy some music for a couple of days and go home again afterwards. Am I being too pesimistic? But I really really hope the constabulary have someone on hand at the station to explain the situation to what I suspect will be a largish number of people who are going to turn up ignorant of the cancellation - and it is going to take a fair amount of explaining! My sympathies to the organisers and good luck with getting something sorted. jill ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From makmorn at QIS.NET Sat Jul 24 20:18:52 1999 From: makmorn at QIS.NET (Daniel Ligon) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 20:18:52 -0400 Subject: BOC: Must Know.... In-Reply-To: <19990724223606.8807.qmail@hotmail.com>; from Horse Whisperer on Sat, Jul 24, 1999 at 03:36:06PM -0700 Message-ID: On Sat, Jul 24, 1999 at 03:36:06PM -0700, Horse Whisperer wrote: > > So. Probably the last two weeks in November. Does anyone know if they're > playing in California (hopefully near SF, I won't have the cash to travel > far) in late November???? According to www.bocfanclub.com, not yet. Here is what is currently scheduled for September/October/November: September 4 Hanover Park, IL Hanover Park Festival 5 Irvine, CA Irvine Meadows 19 Bristow, VA 25 Detroit, MI October 2 El Paso, TX 23 Sutton Bay, MI Leelanau Sands Casino November 6 Columbus, OH 13 Uncasville, CT The Wolf Den -- Daniel Ligon makmorn at qis.net The entire story of Imaginos has not been told and only time will tell if the riddle will begin. -- Albert From tclark at PETRONET.NET Sat Jul 24 20:43:24 1999 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 19:43:24 -0500 Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine Message-ID: Here it is is Scottish: Oi've gought uh sil-vuh ma-choine Keith Henderson wrote: > >In a message dated 7/24/99 11:19:27 AM, boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK writes: > > > >A request from the band. They want to find how to say "I've got a silver > >machine" in as many different languages as possible. Could you include > >phonetic pronunciation guides! Or send attach voice samples (is this > >possible?) I think that they are going to sample them all for use in a live > >gig????? > > > >Kris > > Awhile ago, someone posted about Alta Vista's translation engine, so I tried > it out. These are the not-so-perfect results.... > > http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/translate? > > English-French: French-English reverse check: > j'ai argent?e une machine I silver plated a machine > > English-German: German-English reverse check: > ich habe eine silberne Maschine I have a silver machine > > English-Italian: Italian-English reverse check: > (have.got) d'argento una macchina (have.got) of silver one machine > > English-Portugeuse: Portugeuse-English reverse check: > eu (have.got) de prata uma m?quina I (have.got) of silver a machine > > English-Spanish: Spanish-English reverse check: > tengo de plata una m?quina I have of silver a machine > > Using 'I have a silver machine' for the two that couldn't understand 'have > got', produced these answers (not much difference)... > > English-Italian: Italian-English reverse check: > ho d'argento una macchina I have of silver one machine > > English-Portugeuse: Portugeuse-English reverse check: > eu tenho de prata uma m?quina I have of silver a machine > > I hardly think these are absolutely correct. I'd be inclined to think that > the article (whether une, uma, or una) should precede the 'silver' in all > these cases, as the German one ended up. > > I work with a Russian and several Chinese people...I'll ask them next time I > see them. > > Keith H. (FAA) From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Sat Jul 24 22:49:49 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 22:49:49 -0400 Subject: HW: Silver Macine (in Indonesian) Message-ID: I've got a silver machine. Saya sudah mesin perak. (I have a silver machine.) SA-ya SOO-dah MUH-seen PU-rack Sampai nanti, Brian From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Sun Jul 25 01:35:32 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:35:32 +0900 Subject: HW: I've got a (Japanese) Silver Machine Message-ID: Watashi wa gin no kikai o motte imasu wa-tash wa gin no (as in NOt not as in NOse!) kee-kai (as in hI not as in pAIn) o mott-tay ee-mass. Hardly smaller and more miniaturised, but definitely more flashing lights! Voice sample on the way Dave XXX wrote: > A request from the band. They want to find how to say "I've got a silver > machine" in as many different languages as possible. Could you include > phonetic pronunciation guides! Or send attach voice samples (is this > possible?) I think that they are going to sample them all for use in a live > gig????? > > Kris -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Sun Jul 25 01:38:43 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 14:38:43 +0900 Subject: HW: watashi motsu hitotsu no gin kakai Message-ID: Hi Larry, My Japanese girlfriend says that this "is funny" sorry!! (She came up with the version that I posted) Manami says that an equivalent of this would be "I silver machine one have" if you see what I mean!! Ja ne Dave DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 7/24/99 6:57:15 PM, DASLUD at aol.com writes: > > <> > > let's try KOCK-ah -ee > > "<>" -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Jul 25 01:46:45 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 01:46:45 EDT Subject: HW: watashi motsu hitotsu no gin kakai Message-ID: In a message dated 7/25/99 1:32:39 AM, d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET writes: <> nah, das koo'...as stated, straight outta my lil' dime-at-a-yard-sale dictionary gomen to yr gelfren "<>" From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Sun Jul 25 05:39:30 1999 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 11:39:30 +0200 Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine Message-ID: XXX schrieb: > A request from the band. They want to find how to say "I've got a silver > machine" in as many different languages as possible. Could you include > phonetic pronunciation guides! Or send attach voice samples (is this > possible?) I think that they are going to sample them all for use in a live > gig????? > > Kris In German: Ich habe eine silberne Machine. (Ich har*-be** I -ne** zil***-bear-ne** Ma****-she-ne**) *= like in -Harvey- **= like in -bad- ***= like in -zero- ****= like in -mother- In dutch: Ik heb een zilveren machine. (Ick* hap** an zil***-ve***-ran ma****-sheen*****) *= like in -Mick- **= like in -happen- ***= like in -van- ****= like in -mother- *****= just like Charlie Sheen Andreas From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Sun Jul 25 06:12:11 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 19:12:11 +0900 Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine(Audio Sample) Message-ID: Kris, I'm going to be very unpopular if I post an enormous binary attachment to the list, so, two quick questions: Is boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK OK to send a biggish (more than 1Meg) file to direct ro would you prefer a different address? And ... My laptop' poor little sound input didn't appreciate being hooked up to the synths when I was testing out for Chris Bruce's jam. (It'll be replaced eventually!) So the file is in YAMAHA native sampler format. If you can read it, I'll post. Regards -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From Mariej at BIGWIG.NET Sun Jul 25 15:30:21 1999 From: Mariej at BIGWIG.NET (Marie Jenkinson) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:30:21 +0100 Subject: Bedouin / Huw Lloyd Langton Message-ID: Just to let those interested know, Due to the cancellation of BADAM, Alan has managed to organise a couple of gigs that weekend. Bedouin will be playing The Rigger on Marsh Parade in Newcastle-under-Lyme (near Stoke) on Saturday night (31st July) at about 8.30pm and on Sunday Alan and Danny will be joined by Huw Lloyd Langton to play an extra set, again around 8pm. It's free to get in both nights. The Rigger's phone number is 01782 616602. they'll be able to give more info and directions. Cheers Marie and Neil From iscladoc at IDIR.NET Sun Jul 25 16:18:11 1999 From: iscladoc at IDIR.NET (Allan T Grohe Jr) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:18:11 -0500 Subject: HotMG remaster replacement sought Message-ID: Hi all, My HotMG remaster was stolen about a month ago, and I'm beginning to go stir crazy without it. Anyone have a good line on where I could nab a replacement at a fair price? Allan. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allan T. Grohe Jr. Visit the Dreaming City-- iscladoc at idir.net http://www.rpg.net/ehp/imrryr >From somewhere within him all the longing he had known, all the sadness and the grief and the loneliness, all his aspirations and dreams, his times of intense happiness, his loves and his hatreds, his affections and his dislikes, all were voices in the same music which issued from his throat, as if his whole being had been concentrated into this single song. It was a victory and a plea. It was a celebration and an agony. It was nothing more nor less then the song of a single, lonely individual in an uncertain world, the song of a troubled intellect and a generous heart. And most of all, it was a song of love, of yearning idealism and desperate sadness for the fate of the world. ---Michael Moorcock, "The Black Blade's Summoning" From jeff at LOOK.NET Sun Jul 25 16:05:23 1999 From: jeff at LOOK.NET (Jeff Barger) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:05:23 -0400 Subject: OFF: BOC - Today's UserFriendly Message-ID: Anybody else notice today's reworking of DFtR in UserFriendly comic? http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/99jul/19990725.html From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Sun Jul 25 16:11:17 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:11:17 +0100 Subject: HW: B******s in Blue In-Reply-To: <199907250901.FAA23438@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: The news about BADAM came as a complete shock, those who know that I'm in the band Dr Hasbeen will know we played with Mr Dibs and Spacehead on Friday, the word from Mr Dibs was that the officers who had given the green light and much blessing were "sent on leave" and that a new officer was put in temporarily, this officer seems ?? to have been anti the event and placed in the position for the sole purpose of this occuring !!! This is how Dibster put it anyway. The organisers were given the news late Thursday as I understand and Clive phoned Dibs on Friday am to let him know. Having got much off his chest for a couple of hours and allowing us to do a warmup set for him Dibster played an absolute blinding set, I'll post a better review and track list later, basically the sound was absolutely bang on owing to a decent mix desk and PA which Dibster was trying out, I suggest that if you see a date for Spacehead in an area near you, get there !! Meanwhile, work to finish then off homeski for me. Later dudes and dudettes. Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET Sun Jul 25 16:37:22 1999 From: nigel.kew at VIRGIN.NET (nigel.kew) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 21:37:22 +0100 Subject: Bedouin / Huw Lloyd Langton Message-ID: Cheers for the Info. This is excellent news I've been down in the Dumps 'cos I'm away for the eclipse party and what with BADAM gone my will to live was fading fast. Since my Brother in law is in the area all I got to do is persued my ex to have the kids and I'm in business again. DOC...... >Bedouin will be playing The Rigger on Marsh Parade in Newcastle-under-Lyme >(near Stoke) on Saturday night (31st July) at about 8.30pm and on Sunday >Alan and Danny will be joined by Huw Lloyd Langton to play an extra set, >again around 8pm. > >It's free to get in both nights. The Rigger's phone number is 01782 616602. >they'll be able to give more info and directions. > > >Cheers > >Marie and Neil From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jul 25 17:10:44 1999 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 22:10:44 +0100 Subject: HW: The last resort Message-ID: Aye well - that was going to be *my* best chance of a holiday too since I'll probably also have to miss out on the eclipse as well. Can someone remind me of the phone number for the Derby bike show? I'd been hoping just to turn up in hope of getting a ticket at the gate but given the determination of the world to cancel all forms of entertainment I guess I'd better make sure of getting a ticket now. There isn't going to be much of anything left worth going to soon. Depressedly jill ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU Sun Jul 25 22:47:29 1999 From: p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU (Peter Sondergeld) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 12:47:29 +1000 Subject: BOC: Must Know.... Message-ID: At 03:36 PM 7/24/99 -0700, you wrote: >Oh..last thing - did BOC ever play Australia?? > >C.. No, dammit!!! And I wish they would. I emailed some promoters a few years ago suggesting that they look into bringing BOC and/or tBS to Oz (can't remember now if I mentioned Joe's band too) but had zero replies - not even a "Piss off..." or "Thankyou for your letter, but...." Makes we wish I knew someone in the business. :( Pete. -- *************************************************************************** Peter Sondergeld p.sondergeld at qut.edu.au "I'm no stranger to hard work - more of a nodding acquaintance." - D.G. Harris **************************************** From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Mon Jul 26 03:34:19 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Gekke Henkie) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:34:19 +0200 Subject: off: seti@home In-Reply-To: <199907231142.MAA02670@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi, Due to popular demand ;-) I have created a group. It's called_In search of..._. So if you wanna join visit this site http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi- bin/cgi?cmd=team_lookup&name=In+search+of... and join the group. --BArt From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jul 26 04:08:23 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:08:23 +0900 Subject: off: seti@home Message-ID: Added my credits to the group dave Gekke Henkie wrote: > Hi, > > Due to popular demand ;-) I have created a group. It's called_In > search of..._. So if you wanna join visit this site > > http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi- > bin/cgi?cmd=team_lookup&name=In+search+of... > > and join the group. > > --BArt -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jul 26 06:54:19 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:54:19 GMT Subject: HW: The last resort In-Reply-To: <379B7D54.D0879763@theta-orionis.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: >Can someone remind me of the phone number for the Derby bike show? Yeah, it's 01492 535626. andrew, having missed dr hasbeen /again/ for various reasons. From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Mon Jul 26 06:56:40 1999 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:56:40 +0100 Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine - in Welsh Message-ID: Kris/Dave: As Welsh bands are all the rage these days, and being a bit of a Taffy myself, here's Mr. Calvert's words in Welsh: Mae gen I peiriant arian. (my gen ee pay-ear-ee-ant arian) (I have a silver machine) Nb: "Hawkwind" translates as "Wind of the Hawks": Gwynt yr Hebog (gwint ear hebbog) Best wishes with whatever it is that you're up to! Guy (Taffy) Thomas PS: If you're interested, I could ask a proper-Welsh-speaking friend to translate the entire lyrics! From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Mon Jul 26 09:26:08 1999 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (James A Hogard) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 08:26:08 -0500 Subject: HW: I've got a silver machine Message-ID: Russian (approx. transliteration): U menya serebryannaya mashina. /oo men-YAH se-re-BRYAHN-na-ya ma-SHEE-na/ Esperanto: Mi havas arg^entan mas^inon. /mee HAV-as ar-JENT-an ma-SHEE-non (long "o" as in cone)/ Czech: M?m str?brn? stoj. /mahm STREEBR-nee stoi/ I can do sound files in a couple of days, if needed. Hogard From adrian.brevard at EDS.COM Mon Jul 26 09:43:50 1999 From: adrian.brevard at EDS.COM (Brevard, Adrian R) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 09:43:50 -0400 Subject: BOC: BOC Concert Message-ID: >I just read that Blue Oyster Cult, Foghat, and Nazareth are going to >be playing at the KY 99.7 Summer Jam in Kansas City on August 21 at >Starlight Theather. Anybody else heard about that? I didn't know >they were coming to the mid-west. I'm there!! >Don Farmer. Must be an annual thing. Didn't BOC headline this last year with Nazareth and April Wine on the bill? Ghost in the Ruins NP - Dream Theater - Awake From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jul 26 10:20:39 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:20:39 +0100 Subject: HW: If not Buxton then..... Message-ID: After a night's reflection. Does anyone know if Hawkwind are trying to get an alternative venue in the Buxton / Derby / Stoke area? At the moment my plan is to try and get to Derby and then head for Stoke and stay there for a couple of days to use up my holiday entitlement before heading home. But I'll need time to book a B&B or a campsite or whatever so if anyone has any info I'd be glad to hear it! ta jill PS are there any good 2nd hand record shops in Stoke? ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Jul 26 15:50:05 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:50:05 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Play-list Message-ID: "Space Does Not Care" 7/24/99, every Sat 7-9 pm PST 1.Ebeling Hughes--Transfigured ("can you feel the determination of the Pilgrims/ amidst the depths of the desert's gloom...with their songs of lofty cheer?"--gotta love it) 2.Farflung--Vision of Infinity ("Concussion speed!") 3.Hawkwind--Void City ("here we come...") 4.Monster Magnet--Brainstorm (make up yer own lyrics) 5.Pressurehed--Valiant Thor (hmm...if space aliens do visit, will they want to return Earth to barbaric Viking-culture? Sounds like a change of pace...and several OS Star Trek episodes) 6.Dilate--Oblivium (Tangerine-Dreamy, blissful) 7.Melting Euphoria--In Aquarian Dream (from Space Box comp--Cleopatra releases previously-unreleased track? Wow!) Anyway, She's Taking Us Over the Edge of the World is on the way, Dr. Clic) 8.Ozric Tentacles--Bizarre Bazaar (oblig. Oz tune) 9.The Brain--Vortex in my Cortex (see M. Euphoria) 10.Pressurehed--Explaining the Unexplained (excerpt--only had 2 minutes before the hour break, so I faded in and out for the best part) 11.Underground Zero--Aimless Flight (glorious, need more like this) 12.Cosmic Couriers--Culture in a Small Room 13.Can--Father Cannot Yell (neither can mine, but he's been born, so no good excuse) 14.Hash Jar Tempo--Sources in Cleveland (hmm...still not sure about this CD) 15.Porcupine Tree--Stars Die (nice imagery in the lyrics) 16.Transfinite--Omega (Luna Mix) (from Amberdelic Space comp) 17.Architectural Metaphor--We've Come for Your Children (no lyrics necessary here, the music says it all) 18.Mirza--Feeding the Serpent From a Cup (amazing percussive sculpture, only thing I've heard to parallel would be Zappa's "Theme to Burnt Weeny Sandwich") Thanks for reading (esp. since I was annoyingly compelled to add commentary this time), Chuck From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Mon Jul 26 15:55:33 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 15:55:33 -0400 Subject: BOC FAQ News Message-ID: O.K., I have managed to complete nearly all the updates to the FAQ for version 3.1 It will be released soon, but I want to get 3 CDs in my hands so that I can add their information to the FAQ: 1. The Brain Surgeons' *Piece of Work* 2. The new Sony BOC Compilation 3. The Too Hip For The Room BOC tribute - *Don't Fear The Remake* I have CDs # 1 and 3 on order. # 2 is supposed to be out soon, but I haven't seen any advance order info yet. John From Mariej at BIGWIG.NET Mon Jul 26 16:16:08 1999 From: Mariej at BIGWIG.NET (Marie Jenkinson) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:16:08 +0100 Subject: HW: The last resort Message-ID: Having a similar idea - I decided to try this number but I'm not getting any reply or answer phone (I've tried a few times today to get through) Does anyone know if there are any tickets left for Pentrich?? I heard a rumour that it was sold out weeks ago - but you know rumours. Cheers Marie > >Can someone remind me of the phone number for the Derby bike show? > > Yeah, it's 01492 535626. > > andrew, having missed dr hasbeen /again/ for various reasons. From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Mon Jul 26 16:39:59 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:39:59 +0100 Subject: HW: Derby bike show Message-ID: Hello I spoke to the organisers of the bike show today and they inform me that there are plenty of tickets left to buy on the door. They said that there are no vehicles ie buses etc allowed. But otherwise the Buxton festival goers will be more than welcome. Make sure that when you buy tickets you tell them that it is Hawkwind that you have come to see. That should up our profile with the bikers! The address is; Pentrich Showground, Chesterfield Rd, Pentrich, nr Ripley, Derbyshire. We will have to arrange another meeting place for BOC listers. See you all there Best wishes Kris From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jul 26 18:59:39 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 23:59:39 +0100 Subject: HW: Derby bike show In-Reply-To: XXX's message of Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:39:59 +0100 Message-ID: XXX writes: > Hello > > I spoke to the organisers of the bike show today and they inform me that > there are plenty of tickets left to buy on the door. > They said that there are no vehicles ie buses etc allowed. But otherwise > the Buxton festival goers will be more than welcome. Excellent news! > Make sure that when you buy tickets you tell them that it is Hawkwind that > you have come to see. That should up our profile with the bikers! No problem 8-) > > The address is; > Pentrich Showground, > Chesterfield Rd, > Pentrich, > nr Ripley, > Derbyshire. > > We will have to arrange another meeting place for BOC listers. > I've arranged to meet up with a friend at the beer tent. If the weather stays as hot as forecast then somewhere near or just outside the beer tent entrance (where there's a breeze and some shade) might be a good place to gather. I'll be wearing some sort of Hawkwind shirt and I'm - uh - female, small, elderly looking with glasses. Just your average looking danger to society type of person in other words 8-) jill > See you all there > > Best wishes Kris > ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Mon Jul 26 19:32:52 1999 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 00:32:52 +0100 Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The correct spanish version from my dad Tengo una maquina de plata ten-go oon-a mack-ee-na day platta (all short 'a's as in mat, sat, cat) Mike w On Sat, 24 Jul 1999, XXX wrote: > A request from the band. They want to find how to say "I've got a silver > machine" in as many different languages as possible. Could you include > phonetic pronunciation guides! From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Mon Jul 26 22:53:39 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:53:39 EDT Subject: Looking for Hawkwind CD Message-ID: Hello, A friend is looking for the Hawkwind 2 CD Love In Space, anyone with one to trade sell let me know, I'll pass the info to him thanks bob From john.m.gray at CWIX.COM Tue Jul 27 00:15:07 1999 From: john.m.gray at CWIX.COM (John Gray) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 21:15:07 -0700 Subject: Looking for Hawkwind CD Message-ID: Bob, I am looking for one as well, if you get numerous replies, please pass one on to me. Thanks, John ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Lennon To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 7:53 PM Subject: Looking for Hawkwind CD > Hello, > A friend is looking for the Hawkwind 2 CD Love In Space, > anyone with one to trade sell let me know, I'll pass the info to him > thanks > bob > From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Tue Jul 27 03:36:07 1999 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 02:36:07 -0500 Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine Message-ID: In ethiopian; ber machine alene beer or ber means flashy or shinny, evidently that is the closest word for silver in this phrase. machine is about the same except ma is emphasized. alene means I've got. So in Ethiopia they would say Silver Machine I Have. It's pronounced buwr MA-sheen A-lean I got this info from a former ethiopian I play chess with. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jul 27 07:33:59 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 07:33:59 EDT Subject: BOC FAQ News In-Reply-To: <379CBD01.A91291AF@mitre.org> Message-ID: > From: "John A. Swartz" > O.K., I have managed to complete nearly all the updates to the FAQ for > version 3.1 > > It will be released soon, but I want to get 3 CDs in my hands so that I > can add their information to the FAQ: > > 1. The Brain Surgeons' *Piece of Work* > 2. The new Sony BOC Compilation > 3. The Too Hip For The Room BOC tribute - *Don't Fear The Remake* > > > I have CDs # 1 and 3 on order. # 2 is supposed to be out soon, but I > haven't seen any advance order info yet. John, I'm told that moe. covers DFtR, and has used it as an opener! I'll be seeing them in about a month... theo From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jul 27 08:13:12 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:13:12 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind festival plug on R1 In-Reply-To: <37864264.18347C43@virgin.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, David G wrote: > This is a joke, right? Mark Radcliffe???? (Cue sounds of crashing > pre-suppositions) > > I don't suppose anyone has a tape of this? Psst! This is on the _Theta Orionis_ boot, not too bad either, though the rest of the CD is pretty awful... But I don't *do* bootlegs so you didn't hear it from me, OK? Yours, Jon :-) > Nick Lee wrote: > > > Didn't you hear the HW session on Mark Radcliffe's old evening show some 4 > > years ago? It was shortly before the Rock & Blues Festival in '95 and was > > the first opportunity most of (in the UK) had to hear Ron with the band. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jul 27 08:14:46 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:14:46 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind festival plug on R1 + Bike Show In-Reply-To: <378c489a.34547625@smtp.freeserve.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, andrew wrote: > >Didn't you hear the HW session on Mark Radcliffe's old evening show some 4 > >years ago? It was shortly before the Rock & Blues Festival in '95 and was > >the first opportunity most of (in the UK) had to hear Ron with the band. > > And when he had his first national radio show (Out On Blue Six *i > think*) on R1 he kicked off with Brainstorm, iirc. Might have been > MotU, but probably Brainstorm. And I'm 99% certain that he once said > that Stacia was his aunty. And he was also responsible for Porcupine Tree's first radio appearance... In as much as one can `appear' on radio - oh dear, I think I need another cup of tea... Yours, Jon From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Tue Jul 27 08:19:00 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:19:00 +0100 Subject: OFF: Godspeed You Black Emperor! interview Message-ID: Well I broke the habit of a lifetime and bought a copy of the NME this week, since they claim to have practically the only interview ever with GYBE. Not that it tells a great deal mind, but a few folks here dig them I know, so you might want to snag a copy. For those of you clueless to the band, do yourself a favour and go see them live. They're stunning. cheers Tim NP: Faithless, _Sunday 8pm_ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jul 27 08:30:38 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:30:38 +0100 Subject: HW: HW/Nik/A. Lights/Brain/Farflung FS/T and Misc. In-Reply-To: <2f5773ea.24b8f746@aol.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Jul 1999, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > Hello. I finally visited the Rhino Records in West L.A. and man was the used > section a beauty. What I picked up for you: > Used: > 1. Anubian Lights--Eternal Sky > 2. Brain--Access and Amplify > 3. Farflung--So Many Minds, So Little Time > 4. Nik Turner--Space Ritual 1994 (punch-hole) > and I still have these: > Hawkwind--Space Bandits (Castle) > " --Masters of the Universe (Thunderbolt, SS, cut-out) > " --Space Ritual 2 (Thunderbolt, SS, cut-out) > I really need money now, but I'd like to see what ya'll have for trade; I'm > tumbling, end over end... Hullo Chuck, are these vinyl or CD? If CD, can you let me know which ones you still have to sell? Yours, Jon From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Tue Jul 27 10:16:33 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:16:33 +0100 Subject: OFF: Spacehead In-Reply-To: <199907270901.FAA01539@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: As promised, a somewhat better idea of what occured on Friday the 23rd at The Flowerpot in Derby. 17:00 - arrived and started setting up drum kit and stuff with occasional breaks for cobs and beer, well it is a pub. Dibs arrives at 18:15 ish with gruesome tidings concerning the fate of BADAM - a break ensues for mutual grumbles etc. After soundcheck its off we go for more beer while Dr Hasbeen get the crowd going - the set went great, the sound was A1 and Mary did the biz with the lights as usual. pretty good response from the crowd - only about 40 in but they enjoyed it. 22:30 - Spacehead take the stage Set list Intro/Dark Star/Outro Ape to Human Aliens Visitations Waves Pt.1/Aero Pharoahs/Waves Pt.2 Monolith Bone Power Aerospaceage Inferno Planetscapes Intro/Iwill be the Sun Astroman Sona #23 Where Are They Now We are the Future Dibs was in great voice and really gave it some welly, I've not heard him sound this good for the last few gigs I've seen, tonight he was superb. Graham threw in some really excellent work on lead and the was ably supported by a throbbing drum line, my only complaint was that Graham didn't do any violin work, he said he preffered not too anyway as a general rule, partlt because it takes a while to get a good setup with the PA to work it well. Sadly the bar closed at 11:45 and the barstaff decided to leave the room with all the lights up part way through We Are The Future, Dibs had timed the set to perfection and should have finished at exactly midnight with Odyssey, owing to the lighting he left the track out - shame really, it's the first Spacehead track I ever heard and still my favourite. We were shunted fairly quickly out of the building owing to the manageress being a tad upset about the number of people smoking in the room, fair does really, it's her license - but a bit of a bummer when youve got 30 minutes and 7 guys gear to clear away. In the end it was a most excellent night - looking forward to seeing Dibs get some bigger venues and large PA so he can really rock out, he hinted that there would be a more full-scale tour later this year and some European dates were planned for that. Anyway, enough waffle, Mr Dibs is going to be at Pentrich running a stall for a friend, maybe a good place to meet, apart from the beer tent, I'm trying to sort out early departure from work so I can get there, and of course some transport would be nice. Ah well, have a nice day y'all. Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Tue Jul 27 11:46:00 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:46:00 EDT Subject: Looking for Hawkwind CD Message-ID: In a message dated 7/27/99, 12:20:46 AM, BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU writes: <> Not A Problem John, will do bob From mxw at DMU.AC.UK Tue Jul 27 11:48:40 1999 From: mxw at DMU.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:48:40 +0100 Subject: HWIND Passports In-Reply-To: <199907270927.JAA19820@macondo.dmu.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi y'all I got my Hawkwind passport 'application' but believe I am to send it somewhere after making^H^Hfilling in the details - am I right or do i fil it in then officiate it myself (kind of doubtful but ya never know). If so anybody got the address - I have had this for a few months now and really ought to get my act sorted. Regards reply to maxine.wesley at port.ac.uk M at xine The night shall be filled with music And the cares that infest the day Shall fold their tents like arabs And as silently steal away. H.W. Longfellow Honda VF400 http://alpha5.iso.port.ac.uk/~mxw/index.html From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Jul 27 13:51:59 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:51:59 +0100 Subject: HW: Derby bike show Message-ID: Kris wrote: >They said that there are no vehicles ie buses etc allowed. But otherwise >the Buxton festival goers will be more than welcome. Are cars welcome? I would assume they are as I drove there the last time the Hawks played, but confirmation would be nice. see you there Nick From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Tue Jul 27 16:48:20 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:48:20 -0400 Subject: HWIND Passports Message-ID: Ya need to fill it out, send it back in with pictures. I have been putting this off, too. -----Original Message----- From: Maxine Wesley To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 12:21 PM Subject: Re: HWIND Passports >Hi y'all > >I got my Hawkwind passport 'application' but believe I am to send it >somewhere after making^H^Hfilling in the details - am I right or do i fil >it in then officiate it myself (kind of doubtful but ya never know). If so >anybody got the address - I have had this for a few months now and really >ought to get my act sorted. > >Regards > >reply to maxine.wesley at port.ac.uk > >M at xine > >The night shall be filled with music >And the cares that infest the day >Shall fold their tents like arabs >And as silently steal away. > H.W. Longfellow Honda VF400 > >http://alpha5.iso.port.ac.uk/~mxw/index.html From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Tue Jul 27 19:36:31 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:36:31 +0900 Subject: Hawkwind festival plug on R1 Message-ID: Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, David G wrote: > > > This is a joke, right? Mark Radcliffe???? (Cue sounds of crashing > > pre-suppositions) > > > > I don't suppose anyone has a tape of this? > > Psst! This is on the _Theta Orionis_ boot, not too bad either, > though the rest of the CD is pretty awful... But I don't *do* bootlegs so > you didn't hear it from me, OK? Yours, > Jon :-) > Didn't here what? Did someone speak? From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Tue Jul 27 19:48:06 1999 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:48:06 -0400 Subject: OFF/HW: Anubian Lights Message-ID: Chuck, I usually keep up with all the local So. Cal. papers. If I see any other concerts coming up, I'll let you know. I also talk to Len Del Rio. He usually keeps me posted on upcoming events. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Rosenberg [SMTP:Chuckrecs at aol.com] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 1999 2:42 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: OFF/HW: Anubian Lights In a message dated 99-07-23 11:45:49 EDT, you write: << Saw the Anubian Lights last night in Los Angeles. It was a warm up show for the Strange Daze 99 show. Great show!! They played for approx. an hour and sounded great. Lots of visuals and films. Some of the songs were remixed versions of what is found on their cds. I felt they sounded even better live. Looking forward to SD 99!! Dan >> ----Damnit! Was this advertised at all?? I've got to find out how to be aware of any SoCal gigs...any suggestions? I've corresponded a bit w/T. Grenas, but of course he's pretty busy, so I don't know if he can fill me in... Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Jul 27 20:24:42 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:24:42 EDT Subject: OFF/HW: New A. LIGHTS remix album! Message-ID: In a message dated 99-07-27 15:24:08 EDT, Chuckrecs writes: << Hi Chuck, Well, you have reached the email address for Pressurehed, Anubian Lights, etc. Glad to hear you are out there purveying the space music. There is a new Anubian Lights remix CD just came out. If you email Glortch at aol.com, you might be able to get one. They just did a show at Spaceland in Silverlake last Thursday. We will put you on the Pressurehed, etc. emailing list. Nothing has actually been sent out on it yet, but hopefully soon it will start getting used. Farflung will be appearing at the Strange Daze fest in Ohio this summer with Nik Turner. Take care, Paul Fox >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Chuckrecs at aol.com Subject: Re: Music Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:24:08 EDT Size: 1641 URL: From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Wed Jul 28 02:28:37 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 06:28:37 +0000 Subject: BOC: Concert bills Message-ID: For whatever reason, Woodstock got me thinking about concert double-bills, and who I'd most like to see performing together. Just out of pure curiosity, has BOC ever been on a bill with: Motorhead? Uriah Heep? Deep Purple? Alice Cooper? Ozzy-era Sabbath or Ozzy solo? That would be pretty cool. The strangest bill I've ever seen them on was at Cornell University in about '92. They "opened" for the Violent Femmes and Fishbone. Pretty sad when you consider that both those bands are now either LESS popular than BOC or have definitely begun the descent. -- Nick From farmer at ALLENCC.NET Wed Jul 28 08:13:22 1999 From: farmer at ALLENCC.NET (Don Farmer) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 06:13:22 CST Subject: BOC: Concert bills In-Reply-To: <199907281014.GAA15177@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: > For whatever reason, Woodstock got me thinking about concert > double-bills, and who I'd most like to see performing together. Just > out of pure curiosity, has BOC ever been on a bill with: > > Motorhead? > Uriah Heep? > Deep Purple? > Alice Cooper? > Ozzy-era Sabbath or Ozzy solo? > > That would be pretty cool. The strangest bill I've ever seen them on > was at Cornell University in about '92. They "opened" for the Violent > Femmes and Fishbone. Pretty sad when you consider that both those > bands are now either LESS popular than BOC or have definitely begun > the descent. > > -- Nick A couple years ago I saw BOC billed with Kansas. That was a pretty good show, but too short. The whole thing lasted three hours. Don Farmer. From Mark_Winkelmann at FINANCE.IRLGOV.IE Wed Jul 28 08:22:03 1999 From: Mark_Winkelmann at FINANCE.IRLGOV.IE (Mark Winkelmann) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:22:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Gigs in London - true or false Message-ID: Hello I'm new to the list so I hope I don't break any notable etiquettes but I have an urgent question that I'd like to ask. I read in Mojo that Hawkwind are playing 2 nights in London on the weekend of the 4th of September - I am due to fly through london that weekend (on the 4th) and if they were playing on the 3rd I'd come over early to go and see them. I saw them in 1989 for their 20th aniversary gig in London and it was the best gig I've ever seen. I am particularly keen on this as they almost never play in Ireland (only once since I got into them in about 1982) . If anyone has any info on this I'd really appreciate if you could mail me (offlist if appropriate) it as I need to confirm my flights asap and then I can't chnage them. Thanks Mark Winkelmann From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Jul 28 08:37:58 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:37:58 -0400 Subject: BOC: Concert bills Message-ID: >For whatever reason, Woodstock got me thinking about concert >double-bills, and who I'd most like to see performing together. Just >out of pure curiosity, has BOC ever been on a bill with: > >Motorhead? >Uriah Heep? >Deep Purple? >Alice Cooper? Definitely Cooper. According to the Goldmine article, they learned a lot about showmanship from touring with Cooper. ... "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold Systems Administrator From mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU Wed Jul 28 09:10:50 1999 From: mcintyre at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:10:50 -0400 Subject: BOC: Concert bills Message-ID: > >For whatever reason, Woodstock got me thinking about concert > >double-bills, and who I'd most like to see performing together. Just > >out of pure curiosity, has BOC ever been on a bill with: > > > >Motorhead? > >Uriah Heep? > >Deep Purple? > >Alice Cooper? > Uriah Heep was the opening act on the 1976 tour that was videotaped at the Capital Center near Washington DC. That was the first time I saw them with the lasers. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu P.S. The first time I saw BOC they were opening for Lou Reed on his Transformer tour. From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Wed Jul 28 09:32:30 1999 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:32:30 +0100 Subject: Gigs in London - true or false Message-ID: Mark Winkelmann writes: I saw them in 1989 for their 20th aniversary gig in London and it was the best gig I've ever seen. Hello Mark, Welcome to the list indeed! We're not too bad a crowd here really, a few eccentrics maybe................... I couldn't agree more, about the 1989 tour. I got to both nights at Hammersmith in 1989, and with Simon House playing, and hearing such fantastic new songs like Treadmill, Out of the Shadows, Snake Dance (the pre-Teepee version) and Back in the Box; combined with classics like Heads/Time we Left breathing a new lease of life................WOW! I took my sister too, and she was totally bowled over by the gigs! The lazers were awesome, as were the strobing lights at the back of the stage too - the thick "aromatic" atmousphere enhanced the whole thing too - if you know what I mean! In fact the 1989 tour was so brilliant, that the 1990 tour was a bit of a let down in comparison. Best wishes, Guy Thomas From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Jul 28 09:41:30 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:41:30 +0100 Subject: BOC: Concert bills In-Reply-To: <199907281014.GAA15177@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, wrote: > For whatever reason, Woodstock got me thinking about concert > double-bills, and who I'd most like to see performing together. Just > out of pure curiosity, has BOC ever been on a bill with: > > Motorhead? > Uriah Heep? > Deep Purple? > Alice Cooper? > Ozzy-era Sabbath or Ozzy solo? Motorhead's first ever gig was in support of Blue Oyster Cult... How times have changed. This was the Lemmy-Wallis-Fox line-up and apparently it went very badly wrong. I have also heard it contained a fifteen minute `Silver Machine' but this may just be Motormyth. Hammersmith Odeon, according to the sleeve notes in _On Parole_. Yours, Jon From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Wed Jul 28 09:40:07 1999 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:40:07 +0100 Subject: HW: NIK: Nik's flute playing Message-ID: I was just playing Jethro Tull's "Bursting Out - Live", and there is an instumental flute piece,(sorry - I can't recall the Tull track title) which is identical to Nik's "King" track, from his "Space Ritual" CD a few years back. Then of course, I realised that "Serenade", also from Space Ritual, is the same song as "Serenade to a Cuckoo", from Tull's first LP, "This Was". Obviously, the flute is the main point in both theses songs. I am rather a fan of Tull, but I also love Nik's flute playing too. I suspect that Nik may be a Tull admirer too. I think Nik's flute playing is far superior to his sax playing - Maybe it's because he has to concentrate more on it, as the flute isn't second nature to him , (whilst sax is), - hence less chance to wander off in a musical tangent blasting out any old noise! One of my HW highlights is "Solitary Mind Games" with Nik playing flute, from the 1982 "Choose Your Masques" tour. I think I've got a tape somewhere, of Chippenham from that tour, which isn't bad quality at all - must dig it out and give it another listen! (Kris - didn't you dance with the band for the first time on the 1982 tour?) Ah - such fond memories! Guy T. From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Wed Jul 28 10:01:23 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:01:23 -0400 Subject: HW: NIK: Nik's flute playing In-Reply-To: <997CDAC4BBC5D211BE0B0008C70D298F67D412@lnnt47.london.entoi l.com> Message-ID: Thomas Guy wrote: >I was just playing Jethro Tull's "Bursting Out - Live", and there is an >instumental flute piece,(sorry - I can't recall the Tull track title) which >is identical to Nik's "King" track, from his "Space Ritual" CD a few years >back. > >Then of course, I realised that "Serenade", also from Space Ritual, is the >same song as "Serenade to a Cuckoo", from Tull's first LP, "This Was". >Obviously, the flute is the main point in both theses songs. I am rather a >fan of Tull, but I also love Nik's flute playing too. I suspect that Nik may >be a Tull admirer too. According to "This Was" liner notes: Serenade to a Cookoo is this Roland Kirk one, which was the first thing Ian learned to play on flute (so he says)-- it's probably all right. I don't have "Bursting Out - Live," so I couldn't say about the other tune. I'd have to guess it's a cover too. That's not to say Nik didn't get the tunes from the Tull versions instead of the originals.... Brian From micci at SCI.FI Wed Jul 28 10:05:39 1999 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:05:39 +0300 Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine Message-ID: Hi! In finish: Minulla on hopeinen kone= I have silver machine >A request from the band. They want to find how to say "I've got a silver >machine" in as many different languages as possible. Could you include >phonetic pronunciation guides! Or send attach voice samples (is this >possible?) I think that they are going to sample them all for use in a live >gig????? > >Kris > Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Jul 28 09:20:03 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:20:03 -0400 Subject: BOC: Concert bills Message-ID: Don asked... >> For whatever reason, Woodstock got me thinking about concert >> double-bills, and who I'd most like to see performing together. Just >> out of pure curiosity, has BOC ever been on a bill with: >> >> Motorhead? >> Uriah Heep? >> Deep Purple? >> Alice Cooper? >> Ozzy-era Sabbath or Ozzy solo? I distinctly remember a 'Black & Blue' tour, which almost certainly was Black Sabbath and Blue Oyster Cult. But the timing probably would have put it into the original Ronnie Dio-era, circa 1983. I just saw a show announced in Cleveland sharing the bill with Steppenwolf (aka John Kay and some other people born after 'Born to Be Wild' probably). Reminds me of the five-band show I saw about five years ago. Let's see....it was Leslie West, Jefferson Airplane, John Kay & Steppenwolf, somebody else I can't remember, and then finally, BOC. It was at the 'shed' outside Pittsburgh, and it went to like 2 AM. Unusually late for one of those shows. Only the most rabid BOC fans stayed 'till the bitter end. Keith H. (FAA) From tclark at PETRONET.NET Wed Jul 28 10:40:00 1999 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:40:00 -0500 Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine Message-ID: And for more of the humerous side: In black english (ebonics, translated from a couple of web-based translators): 1.) ah've gots uh silver machine, you know das right! Sheeit! 2.) Yo buss dis. I'z gets a silvuh machine Sheeit! Miikka Wagner wrote: > Hi! > > In finish: > > Minulla on hopeinen kone= I have silver machine > > >A request from the band. They want to find how to say "I've got a silver > >machine" in as many different languages as possible. Could you include > >phonetic pronunciation guides! Or send attach voice samples (is this > >possible?) I think that they are going to sample them all for use in a live > >gig????? > > > >Kris > > > > Miikka Wagner > email: micci at sci.fi > http://www.sci.fi/~micci From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Wed Jul 28 10:51:24 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:51:24 -0400 Subject: Alice Cooper with Blue Oyster Cult Message-ID: Here is a pic of an old concert poster. http://www.geocities.com/Area51/corridor/9875/pix/alice.gif From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jul 28 11:37:11 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:37:11 EDT Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine Message-ID: In a message dated 7/28/99 10:53:18 AM, tclark at PETRONET.NET writes: <> personally i find zero ==repeat ZERO== humor in this. as someone who's used numerous attempts at dialect in my postings here this is a low point in my association with BOC-L because this isnt dialect. it's something UGLY. "<>" From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Wed Jul 28 12:02:49 1999 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:02:49 +0100 Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine Message-ID: >-----Original Message----- >From: DASLUD at AOL.COM [mailto:DASLUD at AOL.COM] >Sent: 28 July 1999 16:37 >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Subject: Re: HW: I've got a Silver Machine > > >In a message dated 7/28/99 10:53:18 AM, tclark at PETRONET.NET writes: > >< >In black english (ebonics, translated from a couple of web-based translators): > >1.) ah've gots uh silver machine, you know das right! Sheeit! > >2.) Yo buss dis. I'z gets a silvuh machine Sheeit! >> > >personally i find zero ==repeat ZERO== humor in this. > >as someone who's used numerous attempts at dialect in my postings here this >is a low point in my association with BOC-L > >because this isnt dialect. >it's something UGLY. >"<>" DASLUD !!! Don't get so heavy - lighten-up man! I'm sure TClark was only trying a bit of humour From farmer at ALLENCC.NET Wed Jul 28 13:20:34 1999 From: farmer at ALLENCC.NET (Don Farmer) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:20:34 CST Subject: BOC: Concert bills In-Reply-To: <199907281433.KAA03992@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: > I distinctly remember a 'Black & Blue' tour, which almost certainly was > Black Sabbath and Blue Oyster Cult. But the timing probably would have put > it into the original Ronnie Dio-era, circa 1983. Yes, It was Black Sabbath. I was a senior in high school in 1982, and some of my friends were going to see this concert in Little Rock, AR. My parents wouldn't let me go because it was a school night. I was bummed!! The next day, that's all they could talk about. And I missed it. That is something I'll never forget. > I just saw a show announced in Cleveland sharing the bill with Steppenwolf > (aka John Kay and some other people born after 'Born to Be Wild' probably). > Reminds me of the five-band show I saw about five years ago. Let's > see....it was Leslie West, Jefferson Airplane, John Kay & Steppenwolf, > somebody else I can't remember, and then finally, BOC. It was at the 'shed' > outside Pittsburgh, and it went to like 2 AM. Unusually late for one of > those shows. Only the most rabid BOC fans stayed 'till the bitter end. I thought Leslie West was dead. I think BOC has played with John Kay and Steppenwolf at Kansas City before as well. Along with Ozark Mountain Daredevils. Every year Sandstone Ampitheather has a Summer Jam that has several legends of rock. Or as some of my friends call it, "Has-beens of rock." Don Farmer. From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jul 28 12:19:41 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:19:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Gigs in London - true or false In-Reply-To: <802567BC.0043ED80.00@finance.irlgov.ie> Message-ID: The plan is to play the reunion(s) as announced in Mojo, but as far as I can tell, Mojo jumped the gun and published what are basically plans as if they were definite fact. If you're a betting man, book your flight tickets...! I saw three shows in 1989, and the two at Brixton - the Calvert memorial in March, and the 20th anniversary in September - were both superb, and reaffirmed my waning hawk-faith. Then I thought they sucked at Hammersmith, but as Marvin Aday sang, two out of three ain't bad... --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Mark Winkelmann > Sent: 28 July 1999 13:22 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: HW: Gigs in London - true or false > > > Hello > > I'm new to the list so I hope I don't break any notable etiquettes but I > have an urgent question that I'd like to ask. > > I read in Mojo that Hawkwind are playing 2 nights in London on the > weekend of the 4th of September - I am due to fly through london that > weekend (on the 4th) and if they were playing on the 3rd I'd come over > early to go and see them. I saw them in 1989 for their 20th > aniversary gig > in London and it was the best gig I've ever seen. I am > particularly keen on > this as they almost never play in Ireland (only once since I got into them > in about 1982) . > > If anyone has any info on this I'd really appreciate if you could mail me > (offlist if appropriate) it as I need to confirm my flights asap > and then I > can't chnage them. > > Thanks > > Mark Winkelmann > From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jul 28 12:17:30 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:17:30 EDT Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine Message-ID: In a message dated 7/28/99 12:12:53 PM, Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM writes: << DASLUD !!! Don't get so heavy - lighten-up man! I'm sure TClark was only trying a bit of humour >> as molly said on the radio in the 1940's: "'taint funny, mcgee" period. "<>" From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Jul 28 12:21:18 1999 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:21:18 -0400 Subject: HW: Gigs in London - true or false In-Reply-To: <802567BC.0043ED80.00@finance.irlgov.ie> from "Mark Winkelmann" at Jul 28, 99 01:22:03 pm Message-ID: Mark Winkelmann wrote: > I'm new to the list so I hope I don't break any notable etiquettes but I > have an urgent question that I'd like to ask. Welcome! > I read in Mojo that Hawkwind are playing 2 nights in London on the > weekend of the 4th of September - I am due to fly through london that > weekend (on the 4th) and if they were playing on the 3rd I'd come over > early to go and see them. > > If anyone has any info on this I'd really appreciate if you could mail me > (offlist if appropriate) it as I need to confirm my flights asap and then I > can't chnage them. I definitely want to hear any news about this too, ASAP, if there's any to be had! I'm scheduled to fly to Paris the night of Sept. 3 -- and I'm not sure, but perhaps I *can* change my reservation, if I do it quickly enough. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / I'm going to change it, but it's going to take some time. - Linus Torvalds, on Windows's market leadership From farmer at ALLENCC.NET Wed Jul 28 13:26:05 1999 From: farmer at ALLENCC.NET (Don Farmer) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:26:05 CST Subject: BOC: Concert bills In-Reply-To: <199907281516.3274100@allencc.net> Message-ID: > > I distinctly remember a 'Black & Blue' tour, which almost certainly was > > Black Sabbath and Blue Oyster Cult. But the timing probably would have put > > it into the original Ronnie Dio-era, circa 1983. > > Yes, It was Black Sabbath. I was a senior in high school in 1982, > and some of my friends were going to see this concert in Little Rock, > AR. My parents wouldn't let me go because it was a school night. I > was bummed!! The next day, that's all they could talk about. And I > missed it. That is something I'll never forget. By the way, I think it was this very concert in Little Rock that "Don't Fear the Reaper" was recorded for the Some Enchanted Evening release. I may be wrong about that, but that is the way my memory recalls it. Don Farmer. Don Farmer Head Track/Cross Country Coach 1801 N. Cottonwood Director Fitness Center Iola, KS 66749 FAX: 316-365-7406 Home: (316) 365-5943 Work: (316) 365-5116 ext. 215 Email: farmer at acccn1.allen.cc.ks.us From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Wed Jul 28 12:37:19 1999 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:37:19 -0400 Subject: BOC/Black and Blue Message-ID: Does anybody know if the movie Black and Blue was ever released on video? I saw the movie at a theatre in Los Angeles and thought that it was pretty damn good. It must be because of legal reason(s) that it never got released on video (or did it?) Dan From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Wed Jul 28 12:39:57 1999 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:39:57 +0100 Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine Message-ID: Daslud, OK man, have it your way. >In a message dated 7/28/99 12:12:53 PM, Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM writes: >> >>Don't get so heavy - lighten-up man! >> >>I'm sure TClark was only trying a bit of humour >> > >as molly said on the radio in the 1940's: >"'taint funny, mcgee" > >period. >"<>" PS: what the hell does "<>" mean? From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 28 12:47:44 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:47:44 +0100 Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine In-Reply-To: DASLUD@AOL.COM's message of Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:37:11 EDT Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: > > In black english (ebonics, translated from a couple of web-based translators): > > 1.) ah've gots uh silver machine, you know das right! Sheeit! > > 2.) Yo buss dis. I'z gets a silvuh machine Sheeit! > >> > > personally i find zero ==repeat ZERO== humor in this. > > as someone who's used numerous attempts at dialect in my postings here this > is a low point in my association with BOC-L > > because this isnt dialect. > it's something UGLY. Och awa wi ye. A wee bit giggle ne'er did ony herm. If ye henna foond eet funny then jist smile onyway. ObGlesgae: Ah've goat a silver machine. Jimmy. Ken what ah'm saen? From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Wed Jul 28 13:07:13 1999 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:07:13 +0100 Subject: BOC/Black and Blue In-Reply-To: <4327A1883D21D311AC9400508B0A1B9E486852@NTGUSLAEXS1> Message-ID: > Does anybody know if the movie Black and Blue was ever released on video? It definitely came out on video in the UK because I went to see it at a Rock Soc. screening at Sheffield University back in 1983. Mike w From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jul 28 13:13:50 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:13:50 EDT Subject: BOC: Concert bills In-Reply-To: <199907281521.3274600@allencc.net> Message-ID: > From: Don Farmer > > > I distinctly remember a 'Black & Blue' tour, which almost certainly was > > > Black Sabbath and Blue Oyster Cult. But the timing probably would have put > > > it into the original Ronnie Dio-era, circa 1983. > > > > Yes, It was Black Sabbath. I was a senior in high school in 1982, > > and some of my friends were going to see this concert in Little Rock, > > AR. My parents wouldn't let me go because it was a school night. I > > was bummed!! The next day, that's all they could talk about. And I > > missed it. That is something I'll never forget. > > By the way, I think it was this very concert in Little Rock that > "Don't Fear the Reaper" was recorded for the Some Enchanted Evening > release. I may be wrong about that, but that is the way my memory > recalls it. > Hmm...I always thought the Black and Blue tour was earlier than 1983, and , as Don suggests, if these concerts produced the DFtR that appeared on SEE, then the tour was much earlier. SEE was released in, what, '78 or '79? But now I'm thinking that the first Sab. album w/RJD was Heaven and Hell, which was released in 1980, so DFtR from SEE couldn't have been from this tour... theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jul 28 13:15:40 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:15:40 EDT Subject: BOC: Concert bills In-Reply-To: <199907281516.3274100@allencc.net> Message-ID: > From: Don Farmer > > I thought Leslie West was dead. I think BOC has played with John Kay Leslie's still alive...not sure how well! > and Steppenwolf at Kansas City before as well. Along with Ozark > Mountain Daredevils. Wow, that's some creative scheduling... theo From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jul 28 13:29:20 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:29:20 EDT Subject: way, way, muchly off: der schtory of "<>" Message-ID: In a message dated 7/28/99 12:50:43 PM, Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM writes: <" mean? >> ============================ dinna mean moch of nuffink but permit me to wyste a wee mite of yiz toime: it dates back to something i forwarded to BOC-L called , if memory serves, "a message from god" which would bring an end to my 'forwarding phase' (mostly) i got a note from master theo saying that all he'd received of the forward was: <> i joked back that it must have been a case of 'divine intervention', and indeed that was the all-encompassing message, or words to that effect. so it went from being an in-joke twixt master theo and i to being the way i signed things. i had become too discouraged to end w/"ja ne" anymore and "X (his mark)" only goes so far. ======= listen, guys n' gals, there are no lack of individuals of all ethnicities etc. who unknowingly or willfully act like stereotypes. okay? that's how stereotypes come about and are perpetuated. and, like, the 'irish phonetic dialect' someone deployed just now in response to my response, that was killer! i loved it! thanks! but sorry, i was pretty bummed by the lame blackface stuff and i said so. i considered it casually mean-spirited, by default if not design. and das ludicroix's black bassist and black synth player (for STRANGE DAZE) most likely wouldnt have enjoyed it either. so there ya go. AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY MISANTHROPE ja ne! X (his mark) larry b "<>" From tgn at GATE.NET Wed Jul 28 13:31:09 1999 From: tgn at GATE.NET (Timothy G. Northrup) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:31:09 -0400 Subject: BOC: Concert bills Message-ID: Theo wrote: > Hmm... I always thought the Black and Blue tour was earlier than 1983... I seem to remember going to 2 different Black & Blue shows, both at Lebanon Valley Speedway in upstate NY. I'm pretty sure they were the summers of '76 and '77, with Ozzy, not RJD. But then, I'm getting on in years and my memory isn't what it used to be :-) -- Tim From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jul 28 13:31:50 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:31:50 +0100 Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine In-Reply-To: Dan Witt's message of Tue, 27 Jul 1999 02:36:07 -0500 Message-ID: I'm trying to get someone translate this for me into (Scots) Gaelic. Hopefully... jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jul 28 13:36:48 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:36:48 +0100 Subject: BOC: Concert bills In-Reply-To: <01BED8FD.749FAE60.tgn@Gate.Net> Message-ID: I'm sure the faqman can answer all this without looking it up :), but I'm pretty certain the B&B tour was with Dio-era Sabs, and was around 1980-81. When SP was managing Sabbath, anyway. --Andy ObCD: Masters of Reality - _Welcome to the Western Lodge_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Timothy G. Northrup > Sent: 28 July 1999 18:31 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: BOC: Concert bills > > > Theo wrote: > > Hmm... I always thought the Black and Blue tour was earlier than 1983... > > I seem to remember going to 2 different Black & Blue shows, both > at Lebanon > Valley Speedway in upstate NY. I'm pretty sure they were the > summers of '76 > and '77, with Ozzy, not RJD. But then, I'm getting on in years and my > memory isn't what it used to be :-) > > -- Tim > From tclark at PETRONET.NET Wed Jul 28 13:41:19 1999 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:41:19 -0500 Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine Message-ID: Sorry you got so upset over that one...whew! wow! man-o-man! It was definitely not meant to be derogatory whatsoever, or elicit a response such as yours. Lighten up, dude! I work with people who happen to be of African descent and we often trade phrases - stereotypical red-neck white boy phrases, and the teach me stereotypical ebonics-type phrases and it is quite funny at times - quite harmless, actually, just making fun of the reality that people do tend to mangle the english language from time to time. I ain't no red-neck, by the way. Theeere you go! Aintnuttinbutamuddafukkinthang! DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 7/28/99 10:53:18 AM, tclark at PETRONET.NET writes: > > < > In black english (ebonics, translated from a couple of web-based translators): > > 1.) ah've gots uh silver machine, you know das right! Sheeit! > > 2.) Yo buss dis. I'z gets a silvuh machine Sheeit! > >> > > personally i find zero ==repeat ZERO== humor in this. > > as someone who's used numerous attempts at dialect in my postings here this > is a low point in my association with BOC-L > > because this isnt dialect. > it's something UGLY. > "<>" From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Jul 28 13:53:09 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:53:09 -0400 Subject: way, way, muchly off: der schtory of "<>" Message-ID: >In a message dated 7/28/99 12:50:43 PM, Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM writes: > ><" mean? In some computer languages, it means "not equal to". As in "less than or greater than", so you get the full range except equal to. Being a C man myself, I prefer to say != , but there are some that use it. Heck, some languages permit both. "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold Systems Administrator From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Jul 28 13:59:36 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:59:36 +0100 Subject: HW: NIK: Nik's flute playing Message-ID: >I was just playing Jethro Tull's "Bursting Out - Live", and there is an >instumental flute piece,(sorry - I can't recall the Tull track title) which >is identical to Nik's "King" track, from his "Space Ritual" CD a few years >back. I don't have "Bursting Out", but one of the flute pieces on NT's Space Ritual (can't remember which one) sounds very similar to a Tull track called (I think) "Bouree" which I have on a compilation. Nick From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Wed Jul 28 13:59:59 1999 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:59:59 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Bios Message-ID: This is just a stupid, off the wall question regarding Hawkwind. Who is older, Dave Brock, Lemmy or Nik? I bet a friend of mine and would just like to know. dan From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jul 28 14:06:22 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:06:22 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Bios In-Reply-To: <4327A1883D21D311AC9400508B0A1B9E486853@NTGUSLAEXS1> Message-ID: Not 100% sure, but I think it's Turner. And I think Lemmy is the baby of the three. Ready to be corrected by anybody who knows better though! --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] > Sent: 28 July 1999 19:00 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Hawkwind Bios > > > This is just a stupid, off the wall question regarding Hawkwind. > > Who is older, Dave Brock, Lemmy or Nik? I bet a friend of mine and > would just like to know. > > dan > From tclark at PETRONET.NET Wed Jul 28 14:27:15 1999 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:27:15 -0500 Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine Message-ID: Final thoughts on this one.....(keeping this simple, as I am a simple minded person) People are people and everyone talks funny, depending on your perspective and sense of humor. I talk funny, Scottish people talk funny, Scottish people think everyone else talks funny, some people who happen to be of African descent talk funny, some people of African descent think white people talk funny, Bill Clinton talks funny, Barbara Walters talks funny, my brother talks funny, Keith Richards talks funny, New Yorkers talk funny, German people talk funny, especially when speaking English (I am half German, by the way) , Dan Ductor talks funny, and I bet you talk funny. The list can go on. This is all what makes the world a fascinating place to be. As for the Ebonics thing, don't know if you remember, a few years ago, and even up until now, certain groups (people who happen to be of Africa descent) are pushing to make this dialect (Ebonics) a recognized language(dialect) taught in public schools in America. I will not comment on that. It belongs on a different forum. Take it as you will. Tom Clark wrote: > Sorry you got so upset over that one...whew! wow! man-o-man! > It was definitely not meant to be derogatory whatsoever, or elicit a response > such as yours. Lighten up, dude! > > I work with people who happen to be of African descent and we often trade > phrases - stereotypical red-neck white boy phrases, and the teach me > stereotypical ebonics-type phrases and it is quite funny at times - quite > harmless, actually, just making fun of the reality that people do tend to mangle > the english language from time to time. > > I ain't no red-neck, by the way. Theeere you go! > > Aintnuttinbutamuddafukkinthang! > > DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > > > In a message dated 7/28/99 10:53:18 AM, tclark at PETRONET.NET writes: > > > > < > > > In black english (ebonics, translated from a couple of web-based translators): > > > > 1.) ah've gots uh silver machine, you know das right! Sheeit! > > > > 2.) Yo buss dis. I'z gets a silvuh machine Sheeit! > > >> > > > > personally i find zero ==repeat ZERO== humor in this. > > > > as someone who's used numerous attempts at dialect in my postings here this > > is a low point in my association with BOC-L > > > > because this isnt dialect. > > it's something UGLY. > > "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jul 28 14:33:40 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:33:40 EDT Subject: way, way, muchly off: der schtory of "<>" Message-ID: In a message dated 7/28/99 1:54:54 PM, mordru at FLITE.NET writes: << ><" mean? In some computer languages, it means "not equal to". As in "less than or greater than", so you get the full range except equal to. >> ============== i like it! pretty darned coincidentally kozmic yo, theo, wot yiz think? twas 'divine intervention' after all, mayhaps (lopsided grin) "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jul 28 14:44:37 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:44:37 EDT Subject: BOC: Concert bills Message-ID: In a message dated 7/28/99 9:55:35 AM, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: << Motorhead's first ever gig was in support of Blue Oyster Cult... How times have changed. This was the Lemmy-Wallis-Fox line-up and apparently it went very badly wrong. I have also heard it contained a fifteen minute `Silver Machine' but this may just be Motormyth. Hammersmith Odeon, according to the sleeve notes in _On Parole_. Yours, >> actually wasnt the first motohaid gig in '75 opening for hawkwind? the gig which began with an xcerpt from ==koff== a hitler speech? i've got it; it didnt go so wrong aside from that opening...dunno about 15 minutes of "silver machine" but they did play it; also the velvet underground's "i'm waiting for the man"... so if anyone ever asks 'what's the one cover song which the yardbirds, motorhead, and hawkwind have in common?' the latter song be it. "what's word's worth?" (by any other name) is way sloppier than their first gig, memory serving "<>" From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Wed Jul 28 14:49:32 1999 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:49:32 -0400 Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine Message-ID: Well, Tom... I agree with everything you said except for the Dan Ductor thing. You really think that I talk funny? Man, you think you know some one and then they stab you in the back. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Tom Clark [SMTP:tclark at PETRONET.NET] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 11:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: HW: I've got a Silver Machine Final thoughts on this one.....(keeping this simple, as I am a simple minded person) People are people and everyone talks funny, depending on your perspective and sense of humor. I talk funny, Scottish people talk funny, Scottish people think everyone else talks funny, some people who happen to be of African descent talk funny, some people of African descent think white people talk funny, Bill Clinton talks funny, Barbara Walters talks funny, my brother talks funny, Keith Richards talks funny, New Yorkers talk funny, German people talk funny, especially when speaking English (I am half German, by the way) , Dan Ductor talks funny, and I bet you talk funny. The list can go on. This is all what makes the world a fascinating place to be. As for the Ebonics thing, don't know if you remember, a few years ago, and even up until now, certain groups (people who happen to be of Africa descent) are pushing to make this dialect (Ebonics) a recognized language(dialect) taught in public schools in America. I will not comment on that. It belongs on a different forum. Take it as you will. Tom Clark wrote: > Sorry you got so upset over that one...whew! wow! man-o-man! > It was definitely not meant to be derogatory whatsoever, or elicit a response > such as yours. Lighten up, dude! > > I work with people who happen to be of African descent and we often trade > phrases - stereotypical red-neck white boy phrases, and the teach me > stereotypical ebonics-type phrases and it is quite funny at times - quite > harmless, actually, just making fun of the reality that people do tend to mangle > the english language from time to time. > > I ain't no red-neck, by the way. Theeere you go! > > Aintnuttinbutamuddafukkinthang! > > DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > > > In a message dated 7/28/99 10:53:18 AM, tclark at PETRONET.NET writes: > > > > < > > > In black english (ebonics, translated from a couple of web-based translators): > > > > 1.) ah've gots uh silver machine, you know das right! Sheeit! > > > > 2.) Yo buss dis. I'z gets a silvuh machine Sheeit! > > >> > > > > personally i find zero ==repeat ZERO== humor in this. > > > > as someone who's used numerous attempts at dialect in my postings here this > > is a low point in my association with BOC-L > > > > because this isnt dialect. > > it's something UGLY. > > "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jul 28 14:54:19 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:54:19 EDT Subject: BOC: Concert bills Message-ID: In a message dated 7/28/99 12:31:33 PM, farmer at ALLENCC.NET writes: <<> I distinctly remember a 'Black & Blue' tour, which almost certainly was > Black Sabbath and Blue Oyster Cult. But the timing probably would have put > it into the original Ronnie Dio-era, circa 1983. Yes, It was Black Sabbath. I was a senior in high school in 1982, >> i was helping to tear down a former shoe factory when the 'black and blue' tour came about, which woulda been subsequent to sabbath's 'heaven and hell' lp, the first w/dio, which places this closer to 1980, dont it? i mention the demolition job 'cause a co-worker had lent me 'heaven and hell' and raved about the 'b&b' tour... might mr farmer have been a sophmore then, not a senior? what say you, mr bouchard? "<>' From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jul 28 14:58:35 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:58:35 EDT Subject: BOC/Black and Blue Message-ID: In a message dated 7/28/99 12:50:39 PM, DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM writes: <> yes it was, unless the BOC maniac co-worker i had earlier this year (who was turned on by me to motorhead and hawkwind; he preferred mo'haid) had a boot. "<>" From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jul 28 15:02:21 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:02:21 EDT Subject: Hawkwind Bios In-Reply-To: <4327A1883D21D311AC9400508B0A1B9E486853@NTGUSLAEXS1> Message-ID: > From: "Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]" > This is just a stupid, off the wall question regarding Hawkwind. > > Who is older, Dave Brock, Lemmy or Nik? yes... th?o From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jul 28 15:01:21 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:01:21 EDT Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine In-Reply-To: <379F4B83.1D1993BE@petronet.net> Message-ID: en francais: j'ai une machine d'argent... th?o From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jul 28 15:03:23 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:03:23 EDT Subject: way, way, muchly off: der schtory of "<>" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: DASLUD at AOL.COM > > << > ><" mean? > > In some computer languages, it means "not equal to". As in > "less than or greater than", so you get the full range except > equal to. > >> > ============== > i like it! > pretty darned coincidentally kozmic > yo, theo, wot yiz think? > twas 'divine intervention' after all, mayhaps > (lopsided grin) > "<>" hmmm...you, me and divine in the same paragraph? theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jul 28 15:06:37 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:06:37 EDT Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine In-Reply-To: <4327A1883D21D311AC9400508B0A1B9E486854@NTGUSLAEXS1> Message-ID: > Final thoughts on this one.....(keeping this simple, as I am a > simple minded person) > > People are people and everyone talks funny, depending on your > perspective and sense > of humor. > Barbara Walters talks funny, my brother talks funny, Keith Richards > talks funny, Not only that, Barbara Walters get paid a fortune to talk funny! So does Tom Broke-jaw... theo From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jul 28 15:12:10 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:12:10 EDT Subject: HW: ah gots a Silver Machine, sho nuff yes i do Message-ID: In a message dated 7/28/99 2:28:17 PM, tclark at PETRONET.NET writes: << As for the Ebonics thing, don't know if you remember, a few years ago, and even up until now, certain groups (people who happen to be of Africa descent) are pushing to make this dialect (Ebonics) a recognized language(dialect) taught in public schools in America. I will not comment on that. It belongs on a different forum. >> this ebonics thang came out of san fran or oakland a few years ago; dont think anyone was seeking to make it a "language", more like an escape hatch for black kids doing poorly in english. as such it was a total f*cking farcical copout and was rightfully scorned by black and white, as well it should have been. i dont think the practice currently exists. good enough for it. "<>" ps>> y'know, i'd considered submitting a version of that line in 'appalachian'....couldnt figure out how to write it...if you were singing the whole verse i guess the end of each line would lilt upwards as if it was a question... hey, bad morning this morning, what kin ah tail yew "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jul 28 15:20:26 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:20:26 EDT Subject: HW: NIK: Nik's flute playing Message-ID: In a message dated 7/28/99 2:01:18 PM, nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET writes: << a Tull track called (I think) "Bouree" which I have on a compilation. >> isnt this some ol' classical music bit? "<>" From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Wed Jul 28 16:32:43 1999 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:32:43 -0500 Subject: HW: NIK: Nik's flute playing Message-ID: > From: Nick Lee > I don't have "Bursting Out", but one of the flute pieces on NT's Space > Ritual (can't remember which one) sounds very similar to a Tull track called > (I think) "Bouree" which I have on a compilation. If I have my facts straight, Tull's "Bouree" is a variation of J. S. Bach's "Bouree in E minor" from Lute Suite no. 1. Frank -- A true friend always stabs you in the front -- Oscar Wilde ============================================================ Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Jul 28 16:44:00 1999 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:44:00 -0400 Subject: way, way, muchly off: der schtory of "<>" In-Reply-To: <31F46882A51@library.syr.edu> from "Ted Jackson jr. s2h2" at Jul 28, 99 03:03:23 pm Message-ID: Ted Jackson jr. s2h2 wrote: > > hmmm...you, me and divine in the same paragraph? > But not, one hopes, in the same silver machine! (Sorry; a friend of mine just bought his brother a copy of Pink Flamingos.) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / I'm going to change it, but it's going to take some time. - Linus Torvalds, on Windows's market leadership From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Wed Jul 28 16:57:33 1999 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:57:33 -0700 Subject: Hawkwind Bios In-Reply-To: <4327A1883D21D311AC9400508B0A1B9E486853@NTGUSLAEXS1> Message-ID: At the Castle Donnington Monsters of Rock Festival on Aug 21, 1982, in the intro to "Silver Machine," Dave says "I'm getting old, you know. It was my birthday yesterday. Forty-one, you know." I believe that Lemmy just recently turned fifty. And at Strange Daze 97, when Nik was onstage, Dave said something to the effect of "Nik's getting on, you know. Just turned seventy years old. He's getting ready to collect his pension." So, was Dave joking that Nik was actually older than himself, or that Dave was older? Hmmmmmm. Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 11:00 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Hawkwind Bios > > > This is just a stupid, off the wall question regarding Hawkwind. > > Who is older, Dave Brock, Lemmy or Nik? I bet a friend of mine and > would just like to know. > > dan > From farmer at ALLENCC.NET Wed Jul 28 18:06:34 1999 From: farmer at ALLENCC.NET (Don Farmer) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:06:34 CST Subject: BOC: Concert bills In-Reply-To: <43e9a62f.24d0abdb@aol.com> Message-ID: > Yes, It was Black Sabbath. I was a senior in high school in 1982, > > i was helping to tear down a former shoe factory when the 'black and blue' > tour came about, which woulda been subsequent to sabbath's 'heaven and hell' > lp, the first w/dio, which places this closer to 1980, dont it? > i mention the demolition job 'cause a co-worker had lent me 'heaven and hell' > and raved about the 'b&b' tour... > > might mr farmer have been a sophmore then, not a senior? O.K. It looks like I stand corrected. I guess maybe I was a sophomore. At least I got the high school part right. Memory tends to play tricks with my mind. And I guess I might have been wrong about the Little Rock show being on Some Enchanted Evening as well, but now I am wondering if maybe there was more than one Black and Blue tour. That might explain some of the descrepancy in memories. > what say you, mr bouchard? Yes, please clear this up please! Don Farmer. From adrian.brevard at EDS.COM Wed Jul 28 17:11:07 1999 From: adrian.brevard at EDS.COM (Brevard, Adrian R) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:11:07 -0400 Subject: BOC: Black and Blue...so's my memory too... Message-ID: <> >yes it was, unless the BOC maniac co-worker i had earlier this year (who was turned on by me to motorhead and hawkwind; he preferred mo'haid) had a boot. Wasn't it released on Laser Disc in the US? I'd buy a VHS video. And while everyone is carbon dating themselves trying to think of mixed-matched BOC gigs...first time I saw them Rush was the openeing act...of this I'm sure...as sure as...as sure as...oh fark it, wait til John Swartz posts...he'll know L8er Ghost in the Ruins NP- Van Halen - Fair Warning From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Jul 28 18:02:35 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:02:35 EDT Subject: semi-HW: lemmy's 50th b-day party Message-ID: In a message dated 7/28/99 4:58:20 PM, novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM writes: << I believe that Lemmy just recently turned fifty.>> yeah, at lemmy's birthday party a year or two ago, somewhere in california (LA maybe), the surprise guests were....METALLICA. and every one of them were dressed like lemmy. and they played an entire set of motorhead toonz before playing a set of their own stuff. i have a friend w/a video of this ==not to be copied or circulated== and i've been waiting for eons for him to bend the rules and make me a copy, as promised. ==== when i met mr brock in NY in april '91 i thought i heard something about him being 50. maybe "almost 50"; dunno really** **"dunno really" was ol' dave's favorite answer to questions... we didnt die before we got old. "<>" 41 and holding From flossbac at NLCI.COM Wed Jul 28 18:06:21 1999 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:06:21 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Bios Message-ID: Dave is 58 and Nik is older by either 1 or 2 years. Don't know about Lemmy. John Majka. From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jul 28 18:16:33 1999 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:16:33 +0100 Subject: HW London gigs Message-ID: I'm trying not to get my hopes up with regard to the reunion rumours. Every tour since the late 70's has come "semi-reunion" or special guest rumours. Lemmy has been rumoured to be turning up since the Firemans Ball in 1980 (gig cancelled) and was meant to tour on the Earth Ritual in '84 etc etc. Nik lasts two tours and Simon House one. I haven't seen the gigs advertised anywhere yet which is leaving things a bit late for those in the US or mainland Europe. So Kris give us a clue: when, where, and who? Dave -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Jul 28 18:44:36 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:44:36 +0100 Subject: HW: NIK: Nik's flute playing Message-ID: >In a message dated 7/28/99 2:01:18 PM, nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET writes: > ><< a Tull track called >(I think) "Bouree" which I have on a compilation. >>> > >isnt this some ol' classical music bit? > >"<>" > Could well be, someone out there know? Nick From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Wed Jul 28 18:48:01 1999 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:48:01 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Bios Message-ID: In the "Dawn of Hawkwind Book" the article reprinted talking about the Famous Cure's tour of 67, it refers to the leader of the group as 23 year old Dave Brock. If this is correct it would seem he should be 55 this summer. Reasonably Dave and Nik must be getting close to retiring. >From the web; Ian 'Lemmy' Kilminster (bass / vocals) Born: Stoke-On-Trent, England 24th December 1945 flossbac wrote: > > Dave is 58 and Nik is older by either 1 or 2 years. Don't know about Lemmy. > John Majka. From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Jul 28 18:30:22 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:30:22 +0100 Subject: BOC: Concert bills In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 18:36 28/07/99 +0100, you wrote: >--Andy > >ObCD: Masters of Reality - _Welcome to the Western Lodge_ > So what's the verdict? ChrisW Sitting in silence... "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Jul 28 18:36:07 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:36:07 +0100 Subject: BOC: Concert bills In-Reply-To: <31D7AC30566@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: At 13:15 28/07/99 EDT, you wrote: >> From: Don Farmer >> >> I thought Leslie West was dead. I think BOC has played with John Kay > >Leslie's still alive...not sure how well! > I don't know how "well", but Mountain have played in the UK several times in the last couple of years, and there's been a new album... ChrisW "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Jul 28 18:48:03 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:48:03 +0100 Subject: BOC: Concert bills In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 14:44 28/07/99 EDT, "<>" wrote: >In a message dated 7/28/99 9:55:35 AM, jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK writes: > ><< Motorhead's first ever gig was in support of Blue Oyster Cult... >How times have changed. This was the Lemmy-Wallis-Fox line-up and >apparently it went very badly wrong. I have also heard it contained a >fifteen minute `Silver Machine' but this may just be Motormyth. >Hammersmith Odeon, according to the sleeve notes in _On Parole_. Yours, > >>> > >actually wasnt the first motohaid gig in '75 opening for hawkwind? the gig >which began with an xcerpt from ==koff== a hitler speech? i've got it; it >didnt go so wrong aside from that opening...dunno about 15 minutes of "silver >machine" but they did play it; also the velvet underground's "i'm waiting for >the man"... >so if anyone ever asks 'what's the one cover song which the yardbirds, >motorhead, and hawkwind have in common?' the latter song be it. Hmmm, I'm sure that the B?C support was reported as being Mot?rhead's debut in the press, and maybe even in the advertising. Certainly the reviews that I read were less than complimentary, "they sucked" pretty much sums up the reportage. By the time I first saw them (Fast Eddie/Philthy version) at Burton's 76 Club (a venue about twice the size of a middle class US suburban living room) they were storming. I reckon this was the first gig that I ever went to that could be described as having a mosh-pit. The small dance-floor seething with head-banging/slam-dancing/pogoing loonies; the rest of the audience pinned to the walls by the noise level and looking on in horrified fascination. Probably the loudest experience of my life. ChrisW Still with some vestige of hearing "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Wed Jul 28 19:52:42 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:52:42 +0900 Subject: OFF: -ish: Mini Eclipse Party. Message-ID: The time, 28 July 1999, sometime between 7 and 8. ish The place, The Tavern English Bar, Yokohama Chinatown The Sound Track, HotMG (After a slight discussion) The Event, Lunar Eclipse. It was cloudy. We missed it. Better luck in August, boys and girls. -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jul 28 20:15:04 1999 From: drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM (Torgo Sedler) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:15:04 PDT Subject: BOC: Concert bills Message-ID: Out from the inkwell, jumps Torgo the lurker..... It has been written that......... ----For whatever reason, Woodstock got me thinking about concert double-bills, and who I'd most like to see performing together.---- That reminds me of the VERY first time I ever heard the name BLUE OYSTER CULT.......... Uh oh kids...... I smell a flashback coming on........ I was young, just a kid really, and I got a job working for my wicked Uncle Ernie on his slapped together farm in Upstate NY. It was my job to sell hay and help load trucks and bah blah blah. I think I got 10 cents for every bale I sold or something and........ GET ON WITH IT!!!!!! Oh. Anyway, I had the radio on and I was helping some guy load his truck and GODZILLA came on the radio. I had heard it before and I knew I liked it (what 13 year old kid wouldn't?) but I didn't know who the hell it was. The guy told me about BOC, RAVED about BOC and went on about what a freakin' awesome band BOC was. He told me he saw them live opening for BE BOP DELUXE (to this day I still don't know who the fark BE BOP DELUXE is or what they do...... or don't do) and that BOC was so great that they ended up booing Be Bop Deluxe off the stage and BOC came back out and played. I have NO IDEA if this is true or not but that's the story that was told to my pimply teenage face. So, if it's true, at one time BOC and BE BOP DELUXE were on the same Concert bill. Also, it has been written that..... ---I thought Leslie West was dead.--- A few years ago BOC played "Fireworks over central NY", a big deal up here in the unwashed reaches of the Empire State. This year the lineup is headlined by FOGHAT, LOVERBOY, and MOUNTAIN (featuring Leslie West). Ok, so from what I heard FOGHAT looks like cadavers propped up on stage these days. And I still can't forgive Canada for selling us Loverboy, but I would kinda like to see Mr. West play live. Still 50/50 on the whole Fireworks thing. Theo, you going? Brian? Crow? Anyway, that's enough from me to last several months. See you guys sometime in the fall I guess. LOL!!!!!! Torgo tucks himself back into a tight ball and gets ready to press the PAGE DOWN key for several more months. *********************************************** DrTorgo at hotmail.com http://welcome.to/torgos *********************************************** _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From vince-l at EROLS.COM Wed Jul 28 21:09:04 1999 From: vince-l at EROLS.COM (Vince LeGrand) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:09:04 -0400 Subject: BOC: Concert bills Message-ID: Back in the 70's (maybe someone can help me remember the year?), I went to a New Year's Eve show at the Academy of Music in NYC. The bill was: Kiss (had signed a record contract but no album out yet) Teen Age Lust Iggy and the Stooges (Raw Power line-up w/J. Williamson and the Ashtons....what a performance!) And headlining....BOC (black balloons came down from the ceiling at midnight) Vince From RHamel4129 at AOL.COM Wed Jul 28 23:51:15 1999 From: RHamel4129 at AOL.COM (Rich Hamel) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:51:15 EDT Subject: BOC: Black and Blue Tour Message-ID: The Black and Blue tour from the BOC perspective was definately the Cultosaurus Erectus Tour (video contains "Divine Wind" live and has the "Marshall Plan" video tacked on the end. I Think it might have been the Mob Rules tour for Sabbath, but I'm not sure about that 1/2. The CE tour would be in '80 I assume since that when the vinyl was released. Rich From Nebosuke at AOL.COM Thu Jul 29 01:00:17 1999 From: Nebosuke at AOL.COM (Chris Baker) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 01:00:17 EDT Subject: BOC: Concert bills Message-ID: -Black & Blue was 1980. -DFtR from SEE was recorded 4/9/78 at Barton Coliseum, Little Rock, Arkansas. -Be-Bop Deluxe & BOC was '78, BOC headlined. I saw two shows (one in Boston recorded for SEE but not used), and Be-Bop Deluxe had the wit to favor their harder stuff; they were heavy, tight, and well-received by both crowds. -The Academy of Music NY show w/Iggy etc. was New Year's Eve 1973. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Jul 29 02:02:35 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:02:35 EDT Subject: BOC: Concert bills Message-ID: In a message dated 7/28/99 9:14:00 PM, vince-l at EROLS.COM writes: << Kiss (had signed a record contract but no album out yet) Teen Age Lust Iggy and the Stooges (Raw Power line-up w/J. Williamson and the Ashtons....what a performance!) And headlining....BOC (black balloons came down from the ceiling at midnight) >> ======= this would have to have been 1973... actually the first kiss lp would have been out and very new i have several tapes from that stooges tour incl this show and this gig sucked but it may fare better in memory. and since kiss has finally been mentioned in this sequence i can relate that the first time my friend izzy saw them in early '74 they opened for... (wait for it...) POCO "<>" From sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI Thu Jul 29 02:07:05 1999 From: sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI (Santeri Laakso) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:07:05 +0300 Subject: Hawkwind Bios In-Reply-To: <000001bed93b$d093d640$8855dacf@primenet.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, Kevin Sommers wrote: > At the Castle Donnington Monsters of Rock Festival on Aug 21, 1982, in the > intro to "Silver Machine," Dave says "I'm getting old, you know. It was my > birthday yesterday. Forty-one, you know." I believe that Lemmy just > recently turned fifty. And at Strange Daze 97, when Nik was onstage, Dave > said something to the effect of "Nik's getting on, you know. Just turned > seventy years old. He's getting ready to collect his pension." So, was > Dave joking that Nik was actually older than himself, or that Dave was > older? Hmmmmmm. > > Kevin Sommers > > primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu > > > Nik's 58 years old. DarkSanttu > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > > Behalf Of Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 11:00 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > > Subject: Hawkwind Bios > > > > > > This is just a stupid, off the wall question regarding Hawkwind. > > > > Who is older, Dave Brock, Lemmy or Nik? I bet a friend of mine and > > would just like to know. > > > > dan > > > From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jul 29 04:42:42 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:42:42 +0100 Subject: OFF: Masters of Reality In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990728233022.008e23b0@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: > >--Andy > > > >ObCD: Masters of Reality - _Welcome to the Western Lodge_ > > > > So what's the verdict? Not bad, perhaps not a "must have" like their debut, but starts with the thumping, anthemic "It's Shit", and has an interesting selection of grooves, edging towards the glam in patches. A bit of a grower, I expect - I've spun it afew times but haven't had the opportunity to reallylisten to it, if you see what I mean. And it's been alternating in my deck with _Selenography_ by Rachel's, which is another kettle of fish entirely! --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Thu Jul 29 05:53:01 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:53:01 +0100 Subject: BOC: Video . In-Reply-To: <199907282046.QAA09558@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Does anybody know if the movie Black and Blue was ever released on video? I saw the movie at a theatre in Los Angeles and thought that it was pretty damn good. It must be because of legal reason(s) that it never got released on video (or did it?) Damnit, should have read the whole digest before starting replies, but just to confirm the fact, the video was released, at least on Betamax and was called strangely enough "Black and Blue", I have absolutely no recollection of who did the release or its cat numbers etc. Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Thu Jul 29 05:48:27 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:48:27 +0100 Subject: BOC: Joint tours In-Reply-To: <199907282046.QAA09558@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >> double-bills, and who I'd most like to see performing together. Just >> out of pure curiosity, has BOC ever been on a bill with: >> >> Motorhead? >> Uriah Heep? >> Deep Purple? >> Alice Cooper? >> Ozzy-era Sabbath or Ozzy solo? I distinctly remember a 'Black & Blue' tour, which almost certainly was Black Sabbath and Blue Oyster Cult. But the timing probably would have put it into the original Ronnie Dio-era, circa 1983. Which reminds me, the Black and Blue tour was videoed, I remember getting a copy on Betamax way back in the mid 80's. Ahh those heady days of my youth. As you recall it was RJD fronting for Sabbath at the time and I remember distinctly having a good laugh at the vid coz he looked a right plonker as he attempted to posture and wave two fingers around, gimme Ozzy anytime. Cheers. The other Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From SHLL at NOVO.DK Thu Jul 29 06:45:25 1999 From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:45:25 +0200 Subject: HW: New releases Message-ID: CD Zone has these new things listed: 30 Aug 1999 Remix CD ?11.40 LIQCD015 New Release 9 Aug 1999 Hawkwind: Epoch Eclipse-Best Of Hawkwind (Audio CD) 5217472 ?13.39 Hawkwind: 30 Year Anthology (Audio CD) ?18.39 Can Kris and Dave give us any details.. Like Andy said, EMI web page says nothing at all.. scott From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jul 29 06:57:19 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:57:19 +0100 Subject: way, way, muchly off: der schtory of "<>" In-Reply-To: DASLUD@AOL.COM's message of Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:29:20 EDT Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM writes: > listen, guys n' gals, there are no lack of individuals of all ethnicities > etc. who unknowingly or willfully act like stereotypes. okay? that's how > stereotypes come about and are perpetuated. > > and, like, the 'irish phonetic dialect' someone deployed just now in response > to my response, that was killer! i loved it! thanks! Oirish! Oirish ey sais. Ah'll hev yow ken thaut wus Borderer speek. > but sorry, i was pretty bummed by the lame blackface stuff and i said so. > i considered it casually mean-spirited, by default if not design. and das > ludicroix's black bassist and black synth player (for STRANGE DAZE) most > likely wouldnt have enjoyed it either. Aye weel. Thay piyanae players jist hev nae sense o' hughmer. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jul 29 06:59:11 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:59:11 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Bios In-Reply-To: Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]'s message of Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:59:59 -0400 Message-ID: Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] writes: > This is just a stupid, off the wall question regarding Hawkwind. > > Who is older, Dave Brock, Lemmy or Nik? Damn, and I was expecting a neato proggie to flash into my motherboard. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jul 29 07:01:01 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:01:01 +0100 Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine In-Reply-To: Tom Clark's message of Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:27:15 -0500 Message-ID: Tom Clark writes: > People are people and everyone talks funny, depending on your > perspective and sense of humor. I talk funny, Scottish people talk > funny, Scottish people think everyone else talks funny, some people > who happen to be of African descent talk funny, some people of African > descent think white people talk funny, Bill Clinton talks funny, No, that's not "funny". That's just what we call "lying". FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jul 29 07:06:28 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:06:28 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Bios In-Reply-To: Kevin Sommers's message of Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:57:33 -0700 Message-ID: Kevin Sommers writes: > At the Castle Donnington Monsters of Rock Festival on Aug 21, 1982, in the > intro to "Silver Machine," Dave says "I'm getting old, you know. It was my > birthday yesterday. Forty-one, you know." I believe that Lemmy just > recently turned fifty. And at Strange Daze 97, when Nik was onstage, Dave > said something to the effect of "Nik's getting on, you know. This seems to be a running gag. From the CND Glastonbury 81 tape: Dave: This is Shot down in the Night.