From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Fri Jan 1 05:36:02 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 21:36:02 +1100 Subject: HW: oh frabjous day!! Message-ID: Happy New Year all On 31 Dec 98, at 17:10, Miikka Wagner wrote: (Greasy Truckers Party 2CD) > >was this just false alarm? > > I saw this once in records-shop Helsinki, not so long time ago. It's real enough ... I bought a copy from a bargain bin for $A30 a year ago Soniqu? -- PO Box 884 Paul Ward Mt Waverley http://sonique.net VIC 3149 (time permitting) Mob:0418 524744 sonique at sonique.net From johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM Fri Jan 1 07:04:47 1999 From: johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 13:04:47 +0100 Subject: Rare Hawkwind (Sales/darXtar) Message-ID: At 20:47 1998-12-30 -0000, you wrote: >Hi! > I am relatively new to this list, i have been into hawkwind for >.........Man ,26 years...i have seen them numerous times around the >uk.....when i heard in search of space it changed my life forever...anyway, >i was just at a web site that had a complete listing of hawkwind albums, i >thought that i had most of them, but looking at that list no way..in >particular there were quite a few rare albums/bootlegs listed. my question >is where can i get hold of these items.has anyone got them on this >list...that can perhaps copy onto cd-r or has anyone got any originals for >sale or know where i can get them from. i dont want to list everything as it >would take up to much bandwidth, but as an example as to what i saw there >was, Dawn of Hawkwind, Rock city, the cyberspace conspiracy , nova drive, >damnation alley, timeless paens, the secret tepee, corridor of flames, the a >files.the list could go on.if anyone could help me search these out it would >be greatly appreciated.......you can reply on list or prefereably off list >as i am only on the digest mode. > > thanks in advance > Nick hi Nick, Welcome to the Future let's see if this is your lucky day, or if it's others in the fast lane... the Commander of darXtar are selling out a bulk of assorted HW goodies, including this stuff: HAWKWIND - NOVA DRIVE (DISCONTENT) CD-R HAWKWIND - DAWN OF HAWKWIND (WSCD2075) HAWKWIND - ROCK CITY (NEWTON) HAWKWIND - TIMELESS PAEANS (NOVA DRIVE) CD-R HAWKWIND - CORRIDOR OF FLAME (NOVA DRIVE) CD-R you should be aware of that the Nova Drives are already CD-R's, but on the other hand they're without doubt the Rolls Royce's of this media thus far. (this is the first time I heard of used Nova Drives are to be sold at all) also Official Picture Log Box, the Italian Never Ending Story/Live in Space + Book is there, along with the recent mentioned Nik Turner/Sphynx LP album. Earthed to the Ground, Roadhawks with poster, Church of HW + booklet... see for yourself at http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Vista/5384/sale/sale.htm or lay your bid immediately at darxtar at geocities.com the Commander says also darXtar's new album has finally finished the last studio treatment, and arrived at the record company. let's see what will happen now. chmod 755 .joe >NP.......1999 party 1999 sales party. final question: is this source reliable? simple answer: yes. From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Jan 1 09:19:02 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 14:19:02 +0000 Subject: OFF: darXtar Message-ID: On fre 1 jan 1999 13.04 +0100 "Johan Edlundh" wrote: > the Commander says also darXtar's new album has finally finished the last > studio treatment, and arrived at the record company. let's see what will > happen now. Now _that_ is good news :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Fri Jan 1 13:34:50 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Bart Brugmans) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 19:34:50 +0100 Subject: NIK : Sphinx In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 30 Dec 98, at 14:37, Andreas Stuewe wrote: > > You can get the recent reissued version on CD from: > SONIC ATTACK, Harald Stuermer, Annastr. 55A, D-64673 Zwingenberg > It costs 29,- DM + postage > > Harald has lots of HW & related stuff, at reasonable prices, just ask for > his list. Does anyone know if he has a webadres? --BArt From micci at SCI.FI Sat Jan 2 09:24:40 1999 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 16:24:40 +0200 Subject: NIK : Sphinx Message-ID: >On 30 Dec 98, at 14:37, Andreas Stuewe wrote: >> >> You can get the recent reissued version on CD from: >> SONIC ATTACK, Harald Stuermer, Annastr. 55A, D-64673 Zwingenberg >> It costs 29,- DM + postage >> >> Harald has lots of HW & related stuff, at reasonable prices, just ask for >> his list. > >Does anyone know if he has a webadres? E-Mail is stuermer at sgd.de Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Jan 3 00:26:48 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 13:26:48 +0800 Subject: HW: In Your Area In-Reply-To: <570d6b6f.368a62dc@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi all I ordered In Your Area from CDNow and have just recieved an e-mail telling me it was posted on the 29th of December, therefore it must be out in the shops by now. Anyone heard it? William From edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK Mon Jan 4 06:14:00 1999 From: edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:14:00 GMT Subject: That's Original: Levi Message-ID: From: Mark Edmonds Date: 1999-01-04 11:14 >I can't speak re: the track indexing error, but what's this about the >transfer? I haven't diffed the two versions, but the transfer on the >Levitation disc of the 2-CD set sounds superb. It's probably the >cleanest sounding, most balanced mix of any of my CD I ever owned >prior to the last couple of years (when digital recording technology >has finally come into its own). In the bad old days before studio >engineering techniques caught up with digital technology, I always >used it as an example of how digital recording *could* be done right. >Confused, >Steve >swann at pplutonia.com OK, here's what happened: About 6 or 7 years ago, a friend of mine bought a new-fangled portable CD player. This machine used the new "bitstream" technology and as my hi-fi deck was early 2nd generation (straight 16bit with some oversampling), we decided to run some tests to see how much better the bitstream machine was. At the time, the only duplicate CD I had was the Bronze/Castle Classics release of Levitation and the Live 79/Levitation double so we stuck one CD in each machine, set them running and then switched between the two players to compare the sound quality. We started off with the Bronze release in my deck and the double release in the portable. It was immediately apparent that the sound from the portable was much thinner and weaker than the deck. Initially we thought that this was due to the inferior quality of the portable but it just didn't ring true that there should be such a difference. Therefore, we switched the discs over and low and behold, the hi-fi deck now sounded weedy. Conclusion: there is a difference between the CDs which is also born out by the fact that the track marking for Prelude/Who's Gonna Win The War is wrong on the double release (I think from memory, it is actually missing one track marker and the Prelude track "starts" half way through or just at the beginning of WGWTW) but right on the Bronze/Castle release. Just to make sure we are talking about the same double release, the one I had was either branded "2 for 1" or "That's Original" and had a white cover with small pictures of the album covers on the front Unfortunately, I don't have this double set any more to re-run the comparison. Mark From dane_c at YAHOO.COM Mon Jan 4 11:00:41 1999 From: dane_c at YAHOO.COM (Dane Carlson) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 08:00:41 -0800 Subject: HW Video for Sale Message-ID: 2 videos of HW live up for grabs. Night of the Hawks and Stonehenge (also features other bands) I am selling them for $30 each. Shipping will run you $3.00 (US only) email your reples to me, not the list. Thanks Dane C. dane_c at yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM Mon Jan 4 11:38:24 1999 From: mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM (Marc Power) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:38:24 -0500 Subject: HW Video for Sale Message-ID: Dane Carlson wrote: > 2 videos of HW live up for grabs. > > Night of the Hawks > and > Stonehenge (also features other bands) > > I am selling them for $30 each. Shipping will run you $3.00 (US only) > > email your reples to me, not the list. > Thanks > Dane C. > dane_c at yahoo.com > Gee Dane, This doesn't seem like much of a bargain since www.cdnow.com lists these for 21.99 and 22.49 respectively. Are your videos your own i.e. recorded by you or somehow different from these? NTSC or PAL? Cheers! Marc. -- Send your snail mail address to mpower at ml.com for your FREE live VHS NTSC video of Heavy Cozmic SpaceRockers B?RN to G?. http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/borntogo for the Btg Mailing-list http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/spacerockers for all things SpaceRock! From dane_c at YAHOO.COM Mon Jan 4 11:58:56 1999 From: dane_c at YAHOO.COM (Dane Carlson) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 08:58:56 -0800 Subject: HW Videos for Sale (part 2) Message-ID: Well it would appeare these items are still "in print". And cheaper than I paid for them years ago (naturally) so... These tapes are playable on US video machines, so that must mean NTSC. They are in great condition. Night of the Hawks $15 Stonehenge $15 add $3 for shipping reply to: dane_c at yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Mon Jan 4 12:54:34 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:54:34 -0500 Subject: That's Original: Levi In-Reply-To: <1581@ems.rail.co.uk> from "Mark Edmonds" at Jan 4, 99 11:14:00 am Message-ID: Mark Edmonds writes: > > From: Mark Edmonds > Date: 1999-01-04 11:14 > > >I can't speak re: the track indexing error, but what's this about the > >transfer? I haven't diffed the two versions, but the transfer on the > >Levitation disc of the 2-CD set sounds superb. It's probably the [...] > > deck and the double release in the portable. It was immediately apparent > that the sound from the portable was much thinner and weaker than the deck. > Initially we thought that this was due to the inferior quality of the > portable but it just didn't ring true that there should be such a > difference. Therefore, we switched the discs over and low and behold, the > hi-fi deck now sounded weedy. Conclusion: there is a difference between the > CDs which is also born out by the fact that the track marking for > Prelude/Who's Gonna Win The War is wrong on the double release (I think from > memory, it is actually missing one track marker and the Prelude track > "starts" half way through or just at the beginning of WGWTW) but right on > the Bronze/Castle release. > > Just to make sure we are talking about the same double release, the one I > had was either branded "2 for 1" or "That's Original" and had a white cover > with small pictures of the album covers on the front Unfortunately, I don't > have this double set any more to re-run the comparison. Well, I have the 2-disc "That's Original" set, so I guess I'm going to have to track down the Bronze/Castle release and run a comparison... If it sounds better, that will be really something, because the one I have is already one of my best-sounding CDs. Steve swann at plutonia.com From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Mon Jan 4 13:33:10 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:33:10 -0500 Subject: HW: re: Help? Weird new L. Chronicles? In-Reply-To: <000001be2c5c$4a699780$a62e63c3@default> from "Andy Gilham" at Dec 20, 98 09:04:10 pm Message-ID: Andy Gilham writes: > > Have a look at Andy Dawson's HW discography page: > > http://www.adawson.clara.net/livechbo.html > > - Andy > > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > I think I finally found it. Not at cdnow or musicboulevard like you might expect - but at amazon, of all places. They have it listed as "Live Chronicles +14", import, 1998. I'll let you know more when it arrives. You know that in a couple of years they'll probably re-release it as a 32-bit mastered DVD, and I'll have to buy it again. Cry me a river. ;-) Steve swann at plutonia.com From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Mon Jan 4 13:51:03 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:51:03 -0500 Subject: BOC: _Live '76_, out on DVD! Message-ID: Just in case anybody was holding out on getting into DVD. ;-) It's by Image, which means that it's sort of a half-assed DVD transfer, with no extras (compare that to Metallica's balls-out 2-disc multi-angle surround sound juggernaut, with animated menus and special features coming out its ears). But it's the classic BOC lineup - featuring the 5 guitar attack - on DVD! You gotta love that. The Dolby 2.0 sound is kind of lame, but that's ok, because they also included a PCM stereo track, which sounds fine. The video looks better than my beat up VHS tape, what a surprise. :-) I haven't watched all of it yet - I'll post a more complete review later. But basically, this is the same old Live 76 that we all know and love, without the video noise problems and eventual media degredation of VHS tape. Isn't that reason enough to own it? :-) Steve swann at plutonia.com From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jan 4 15:49:47 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 20:49:47 -0000 Subject: HW: In Your Area Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: William Duffy To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 03 January 1999 05:34 Subject: HW: In Your Area >Hi all > >I ordered In Your Area from CDNow and have just recieved an e-mail telling >me it was posted on the 29th of December, therefore it must be out in the >shops by now. >Anyone heard it? > >William > I've noticed several online stores in the States offering In Your Area with release dates varying from around 29 Dec '98 to 'sometime in '99'. Anybody know of an official UK release? Nick From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Jan 4 17:42:27 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 22:42:27 -0000 Subject: That's Original: Levi In-Reply-To: <199901041754.MAA10785@imperatrix.plutonia.com> Message-ID: > Well, I have the 2-disc "That's Original" set, so I guess I'm going to > have to track down the Bronze/Castle release and run a comparison... > If it sounds better, that will be really something, because the one I > have is already one of my best-sounding CDs. > > Steve > swann at plutonia.com > Mine's in storage (my dad's garage, actually) but otherwise, or if you're prepared to wait, you can have it if you want. Never did rate Levitation. And I've got it on blue vinyl if I ever really want to hear it :) - Andy ObCD: Moa - _Universal_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM Mon Jan 4 19:03:12 1999 From: mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM (Marc Power) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 19:03:12 -0500 Subject: BORN to GO: website down Message-ID: Hi SpaceRockers, Our ISP finally did what they have been threatening to do and closed the B?RN to G? website. This also wipes out SpaceRock Central and the Alien Planetscapes website that we were hosting. Their reason was excessive traffic, particularly with people in Europe downloading our soundfiles, which was hanging their puny server -- which must have been designed and built by Charles Babbage. I have another site available, it's going to take me a few weeks to get things in order, but it should be up and running soon. It will be bigger and better! Louder!, Heavier!, Spacier! More incredible SpaceRock graphics! All this and Robots too! MP3 and RealAudio soundfiles this time, Megamassivo SpaceRock links section. Meanwhile, the BtG free live video giveaway hit the 300 mark sometime last week. We have been getting some quite incredible feedback from this. If you don't have yours yet, email me a snail mail address to mpower at ml.com In Space we Trust, Marc. -- Send your snail mail address to mpower at ml.com for your FREE live VHS NTSC video of Heavy Cozmic SpaceRockers B?RN to G?. http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/borntogo for the Btg Mailing-list http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/spacerockers for all things SpaceRock! From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Jan 4 19:15:04 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 00:15:04 +0000 Subject: BORN to GO: website down Message-ID: On m?n 4 jan 1999 19.03 -0500 "Marc Power" wrote: > It will be bigger and better! Louder!, Heavier!, Spacier! More > incredible > SpaceRock graphics! All this and Robots too! Rock! :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Tue Jan 5 00:52:42 1999 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:52:42 -0600 Subject: BOC: _Live '76_, out on DVD! Message-ID: Stephen Swann wrote: > Just in case anybody was holding out on getting into DVD. ;-) > > It's by Image, which means that it's sort of a half-assed DVD > transfer, with no extras (compare that to Metallica's balls-out 2-disc > multi-angle surround sound juggernaut, with animated menus and special > features coming out its ears). But it's the classic BOC lineup - > featuring the 5 guitar attack - on DVD! You gotta love that. > > The Dolby 2.0 sound is kind of lame, but that's ok, because they also > included a PCM stereo track, which sounds fine. The video looks > better than my beat up VHS tape, what a surprise. :-) I haven't > watched all of it yet - I'll post a more complete review later. But > basically, this is the same old Live 76 that we all know and love, > without the video noise problems and eventual media degredation of > VHS tape. Isn't that reason enough to own it? :-) > > Steve > swann at plutonia.com The Live '76 Sound quality was far from perfect, but does the DVD really sound a lot better? Laj. From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Tue Jan 5 09:22:06 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 09:22:06 -0500 Subject: BOC: _Live '76_, out on DVD! In-Reply-To: <3691A8AA.40F061D8@dlcwest.com> from "Laj Waldner" at Jan 4, 99 11:52:42 pm Message-ID: Laj Waldner writes: > > > included a PCM stereo track, which sounds fine. The video looks > > better than my beat up VHS tape, what a surprise. :-) I haven't > > watched all of it yet - I'll post a more complete review later. But > > basically, this is the same old Live 76 that we all know and love, > > without the video noise problems and eventual media degredation of > > VHS tape. Isn't that reason enough to own it? :-) > > The Live '76 Sound quality was far from perfect, but does the DVD really > sound a lot better? Only in that the DVD has a PCM stereo (i.e. "CD audio") track, which doesn't suffer from having been dubbed to crappy VHS audio. The sound is more comparable to the Live '76 CD, which is still not great, but better. The main reason to desire this over the VHS tape are the same reasons that you would prefer a CD over a cassette tape - DVD is a robust medium, and doesnn't degrade with repeated playing (or just from sitting on your shelf) like magnetic tape does. Steve swann at plutonia.com From Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU Tue Jan 5 10:05:17 1999 From: Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU (Doug Bates) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 09:05:17 -0600 Subject: HW: Strange Daze review Message-ID: Lasco has a nice review about last year's SD festival on his page and a few details of the customs debacle. http://www.now-online.com/jmfinity/review98.htm Doug From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Tue Jan 5 09:18:45 1999 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (Scott Heller) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:18:45 +0200 Subject: HW: Pink Floyd Message-ID: Hej, Happy new year to all space rockers! Where is the best place in europe to mail order this Pink Floyd book with the HW CD? Help please! SCott P.S: I will be in Brighton at a meeting from Feb. 4-8, anything happening? I will probably come to london on the 3rd and leave on the 8th. R. Scott Heller PhD Hagedorn Research Institute Department of Developmental Biology Niels Steensensvej 6 DK 2820 Gentofte Denmark (45) 44 43 91 37 Phone (45) 44 43 80 00 Fax shll at hagedorn.dk Http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/stage/7713 From abrevard at SHL.COM Tue Jan 5 10:48:18 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 07:48:18 -0800 Subject: BOC: Live '76 on DVD Message-ID: > The Dolby 2.0 sound is kind of lame, but that's ok, because they also > included a PCM stereo track, which sounds fine. The video looks > better than my beat up VHS tape, what a surprise. :-) I haven't > watched all of it yet - I'll post a more complete review later. But > basically, this is the same old Live 76 that we all know and love, > without the video noise problems and eventual media degredation of > VHS tape. Isn't that reason enough to own it? :-) > > Steve > swann at plutonia.com >The Live '76 Sound quality was far from perfect, but does the DVD really >sound a lot better? Can't imagine that. The source was pretty screwed up to begin with. Question I have is do people realy think the average BOC fan can afford a DVD player? 8>) L8er Ghost in the Ruins OBCD - Saigon Kick s/t From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jan 5 10:09:52 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 11:09:52 EDT Subject: BOC: Live '76 on DVD In-Reply-To: <199901051606.JAA29880@docws002.shl.com> Message-ID: > From: "BREVARD, Adrian R." > Question I have is do people realy think the average BOC fan can afford a > DVD player? 8>) > Dunno 'bout that Ghost...Most of 'em have high-ticket computers costing what, $1500 and up, while a DVD player can be had for about 300 bucks. Having said that, I don't have one yet! But then I didn't pay anything for my computer. 'Course I can't take it home with me either... theo From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Tue Jan 5 11:26:38 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 11:26:38 -0500 Subject: BOC: Live '76 on DVD In-Reply-To: <199901051606.JAA29880@docws002.shl.com> from "BREVARD, Adrian R." at Jan 5, 99 07:48:18 am Message-ID: BREVARD, Adrian R. writes: > > Can't imagine that. The source was pretty screwed up to begin with. > Question I have is do people realy think the average BOC fan can afford a > DVD player? 8>) They're running about $250 these days. Think of them as a CD player that shows movies as well. ;-) Steve swann at plutonia.com From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Tue Jan 5 16:57:10 1999 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 16:57:10 -0500 Subject: BOC: Other Buck tunes for next BOC album? Message-ID: This is a question for those of you fortunate enough to have visited the "Museum of Cult." Given BOC's unprolific songwriting over the last 10 years, and since HM was a seed for Heaven Forbid, how many old Buck tunes are sitting around that could be included on a new BOC studio album? Is there anything the caliber of HM that could be the A side of the next album? Of course, I'm making a big assumption that there will be a new studio album within the next 10 years.... Does anyone have an idea how many albums BOC are under contract to release? New year/same old questions, Brian ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html -The new Fierce Wicker electronic showroom "We're drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." - Fierce Wicker ---------- From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Jan 5 19:22:55 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:22:55 EST Subject: HW: fS Message-ID: Just a few things I found on the Progressive NG. The CYM in partic. I thought someone might want... Hawkwind: Choose Your Masques (UK import) (NM-, cover has some bend marks, a bit of wear on the edges) $8 Hawkwind: In Search of Space (w/ fold-apart cover and booklet) (VG, cover has light wear and wear at edges) $10 Hawklords: 25 Years On (VG, cover has cut corner and some wear) $3 From: jdkeener at aol.com (JDKEENER) From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Tue Jan 5 20:07:08 1999 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:07:08 -0600 Subject: BOC: Other Buck tunes for next BOC album? Message-ID: brian halligan wrote: > This is a question for those of you fortunate enough to have visited the > "Museum of Cult." Given BOC's unprolific songwriting over the last 10 > years, and since HM was a seed for Heaven Forbid, how many old Buck tunes > are sitting around that could be included on a new BOC studio album? Is > there anything the caliber of HM that could be the A side of the next album? > Of course, I'm making a big assumption that there will be a new studio album > within the next 10 years.... Does anyone have an idea how many albums BOC > are under contract to release? > > New year/same old questions, > Brian > > ---------- > Brian Halligan > mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com > http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html > -The new Fierce Wicker electronic showroom > > "We're drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." > - Fierce Wicker > ---------- I myself have never been to the Museum, which im working on, but I know that Bolle has quite a few unreleased BOC songs, songs that never made the albums. I'm sure there were songs submitted for HF that never made the cut, and they could very well end up on the next album. "Fire of Unknown Origin" was initially submitted for the Agents of Fortune album, I think. Laj. From squinn at PALMNET.NET Tue Jan 5 21:31:30 1999 From: squinn at PALMNET.NET (Shawn Quinn) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 21:31:30 -0500 Subject: BOC: Other Buck tunes for next BOC album? In-Reply-To: <3692B73C.45E0A5CD@dlcwest.com> Message-ID: I once asked Buck this very question and he told me he does not have a very large collection of unreleased tunes. A friend of mine once mentioned Neil Young has enough material in his basement to release 40 more albums. Shawn At 07:07 PM 1/5/99 -0600, you wrote: >brian halligan wrote: > >> This is a question for those of you fortunate enough to have visited the >> "Museum of Cult." Given BOC's unprolific songwriting over the last 10 >> years, and since HM was a seed for Heaven Forbid, how many old Buck tunes >> are sitting around that could be included on a new BOC studio album? Is >> there anything the caliber of HM that could be the A side of the next album? >> Of course, I'm making a big assumption that there will be a new studio album >> within the next 10 years.... Does anyone have an idea how many albums BOC >> are under contract to release? >> >> New year/same old questions, >> Brian >> >> ---------- >> Brian Halligan >> mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com >> http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html >> -The new Fierce Wicker electronic showroom >> >> "We're drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." >> - Fierce Wicker >> ---------- > >I myself have never been to the Museum, which im working on, but I know that >Bolle has quite a few unreleased BOC songs, songs that never made the albums. >I'm sure there were songs submitted for HF that never made the cut, and they >could very well end up on the next album. "Fire of Unknown Origin" was initially >submitted for the Agents of Fortune album, I think. > >Laj. > From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Tue Jan 5 21:59:31 1999 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:59:31 -0600 Subject: BOC: Other Buck tunes for next BOC album? Message-ID: I bet Buck has enough for another album though, maybe Flat Out 2, a perfect CD-R project I think :-). Laj. Shawn Quinn wrote: > I once asked Buck this very question and he told me he does not have a very > large collection of unreleased tunes. A friend of mine once mentioned Neil > Young has enough material in his basement to release 40 more albums. > > Shawn > > At 07:07 PM 1/5/99 -0600, you wrote: > >brian halligan wrote: > > > >> This is a question for those of you fortunate enough to have visited the > >> "Museum of Cult." Given BOC's unprolific songwriting over the last 10 > >> years, and since HM was a seed for Heaven Forbid, how many old Buck tunes > >> are sitting around that could be included on a new BOC studio album? Is > >> there anything the caliber of HM that could be the A side of the next > album? > >> Of course, I'm making a big assumption that there will be a new studio > album > >> within the next 10 years.... Does anyone have an idea how many albums BOC > >> are under contract to release? > >> > >> New year/same old questions, > >> Brian > >> > >> ---------- > >> Brian Halligan > >> mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com > >> http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html > >> -The new Fierce Wicker electronic showroom > >> > >> "We're drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." > >> - Fierce Wicker > >> ---------- > > > >I myself have never been to the Museum, which im working on, but I know that > >Bolle has quite a few unreleased BOC songs, songs that never made the albums. > >I'm sure there were songs submitted for HF that never made the cut, and they > >could very well end up on the next album. "Fire of Unknown Origin" was > initially > >submitted for the Agents of Fortune album, I think. > > > >Laj. > > From corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET Tue Jan 5 22:14:44 1999 From: corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 22:14:44 -0500 Subject: Off Message-ID: Test From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Tue Jan 5 23:54:51 1999 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 23:54:51 EST Subject: BOC: Other Buck tunes for next BOC album? Message-ID: In a message dated 01/05/99 7:01:00 PM Central Standard Time, erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM writes: << "Fire of Unknown Origin" was initially submitted for the Agents of Fortune album, I think. >> Yep. The time I was there, I got to hear the FOUO demo for AOF. VERY different from the FOUO we all know today... R. From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Wed Jan 6 00:05:30 1999 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 00:05:30 EST Subject: BOC: Other Buck tunes for next BOC album? Message-ID: In a message dated 01/05/99 8:30:59 PM Central Standard Time, squinn at PALMNET.NET writes: << I once asked Buck this very question and he told me he does not have a very large collection of unreleased tunes. A friend of mine once mentioned Neil Young has enough material in his basement to release 40 more albums. >> Neil's currently working on his archives. Rumour has it it will be 32 CD's!! Mostly unreleased! R. From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jan 6 04:06:17 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:06:17 +0000 Subject: BOC: Other Buck tunes for next BOC album? In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990105213130.00842770@palmnet.net> Message-ID: In article <3.0.6.32.19990105213130.00842770 at palmnet.net>, Shawn Quinn writes >A friend of mine once mentioned Neil >Young has enough material in his basement to release 40 more albums. > >Shawn I gather from Mojo that Neil will be releasing 32 CD's of this stuff in 4 8-disc sets, this year. -- Jon From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jan 6 06:19:35 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 11:19:35 GMT Subject: BOC: vinyl Message-ID: I saw a collection of half a dozen BOC vinyl 12" albums the other day in a 2nd hand record stall down in Hull and it reminded me that I very rarely see BOC vinyl. This could be simply because I'm not usually looking for it but can anyone enlighten me as to exactly how rare is it and would it be worth while picking up one whenever I see it in case there's someone out there in search of a copy? jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jan 6 06:36:37 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:36:37 EDT Subject: BOC: vinyl In-Reply-To: <199901061119.LAA24051@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > From: J Strobridge > I saw a collection of half a dozen BOC vinyl 12" albums the other day > in a 2nd hand record stall down in Hull and it reminded me that I very > rarely see BOC vinyl. This could be simply because I'm not usually > looking for it but can anyone enlighten me as to exactly how rare is > it and would it be worth while picking up one whenever I see it in > case there's someone out there in search of a copy? > I see BOC vinyl around here, though not as often lately as in years past. Usually, mint condition LPs cost about $2-3 US, though I suspect this might be a bit high. Even original copies of ST and TaM with the illustrated sleeves don't go any higher than a couple 'bucks.' Probably because they remained in print til the demise of vinyl itself? Funny, even the odd copy of Imaginos doesn't seem to demand much more than this. Needless to say, I buy them all if they're in good shape, though I often pass on the early albums unless they include the picture sleeve... theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jan 6 06:53:51 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 07:53:51 EDT Subject: BOC: Other Buck tunes for next BOC album? In-Reply-To: <3692D192.BDE56E30@dlcwest.com> Message-ID: > From: Laj Waldner > > >brian halligan wrote: > > > > > >> This is a question for those of you fortunate enough to have visited the > > >> "Museum of Cult." Given BOC's unprolific songwriting over the last 10 > > >> years, and since HM was a seed for Heaven Forbid, how many old Buck tunes > > >> are sitting around that could be included on a new BOC studio album? Is > > >> there anything the caliber of HM that could be the A side of the next > > album? > > >> Of course, I'm making a big assumption that there will be a new studio > > album > > >> within the next 10 years.... Does anyone have an idea how many albums BOC > > >> are under contract to release? > > > > >I myself have never been to the Museum, which im working on, but I know that > > >Bolle has quite a few unreleased BOC songs, songs that never made the albums. > > >I'm sure there were songs submitted for HF that never made the cut, and they > > >could very well end up on the next album. "Fire of Unknown Origin" was > > initially > > >submitted for the Agents of Fortune album, I think. Problem is, these old tunes could have been written by Al or SP, and maybe they wouldn't want them released at this time. Certainly anything Al wrote is out of the question. But what's with this 'last 10 years' stuff? BOC always had to held under a gun to make records. Trouble was, nobody in the band could write as prolifically as Al... theo From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Wed Jan 6 08:35:48 1999 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 08:35:48 -0500 Subject: BOC: Other Buck tunes for next BOC album? Message-ID: >I gather from Mojo that Neil will be releasing 32 CD's of this stuff in >4 8-disc sets, this year. >-- >Jon And BOC can't release one lousy disk of unreleased tunes or the SFG album? Is Neil Young 32x as popular as BOC? Well...I'll give him 10 or 15, but still.... Brian ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html -The new Fierce Wicker electronic showroom "We're drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jan 6 07:59:13 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 08:59:13 EDT Subject: BOC: Other Buck tunes for next BOC album? In-Reply-To: <329A5258416CD111928F006008A62C76562921@bpxsv.pulleyn.com> Message-ID: > From: brian halligan > >I gather from Mojo that Neil will be releasing 32 CD's of this stuff in > >4 8-disc sets, this year. > >-- > >Jon > > And BOC can't release one lousy disk of unreleased tunes or the SFG album? > Is Neil Young 32x as popular as BOC? Well...I'll give him 10 or 15, but > still.... Yeah, well BOC seem to exist in some kind of parallel universe anyway. In their defense, I think the SFG stuff is beyond BOC's control, and there might be contractual/copyright problems with the few--very few, as in not enough to make an album--tunes that might actually exist. For example, Wings of Mercury was written by someone outside the band [I think]. Now Al, of course, has continued to release his old tunes with his current group. But it WOULD be great to hear old BOC demos with Buck playing on Al's tunes... theo From abrevard at SHL.COM Wed Jan 6 10:59:48 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 09:59:48 -0600 Subject: BOC: Live 76 DVD Message-ID: Question I have is do people realy think the average BOC fan can afford a > DVD player? 8>) > >Dunno 'bout that Ghost...Most of 'em have high-ticket computers costing what, $1500 and up, while a DVD player can be had for about 300 bucks. Having said that, I don't have one yet! But then I didn't pay anything for my computer. 'Course I can't take it home with me either... >theo Ya I know Theo, geez I gotta learn how to time a joke. Guess most of us were teenage fans in the 70's / corporate weenies in the 90's, with lots of disposable income. Record companies have to know we will buy almost anything BOC. Hmmmm I smell a new lurker on the list. It's the same guy I gave my Live 76 CD to. I know your in here Rich, you cannot hide bwaa hahahahahahahaha L8er Ghost in the Ruins CDNP - Ty Tabor, Moonflower Lane From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Jan 6 11:54:17 1999 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 16:54:17 +0000 Subject: BOC: vinyl & a bit of HW In-Reply-To: <199901061119.LAA24051@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: And the answer is, no. BOC vinyl is rarely rare. The (UK) exceptions are; for mint copies Blue Oyster Cult (1973) ?10 Cultosaurus Erectus (1980 w/poster) ?10 The only rarities worth mentioning are; 7" DFTR w/Tattoo Vampire on the flip instead of RUR2R ?10 12" DFTR 1978 12" reissue ?8 12" Burning for You in pic sleeve 1981 ?7 12" Take Me Away in pic sleeve 1983 ?7 12" Shooting Shark in pic sleeve 1984 ?7 and the solitary CD collectable is; CDS Astronomy 1989 ?7 The current Hawkwind top item is the 1973 one sided 7" promo of Sonic Attack in a cloth sleeve which would set you back about ?175! Z At 11:19 06/01/1999 GMT, you wrote: >I saw a collection of half a dozen BOC vinyl 12" albums the other day >in a 2nd hand record stall down in Hull and it reminded me that I very >rarely see BOC vinyl. This could be simply because I'm not usually >looking for it but can anyone enlighten me as to exactly how rare is >it and would it be worth while picking up one whenever I see it in >case there's someone out there in search of a copy? > >jill > >=========================================================================== >J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk > ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Zeitgeist-Reflections Of The Underground Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Jan 6 15:29:30 1999 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 15:29:30 -0500 Subject: BOC: Tattoo Vampire Artwork Message-ID: Well, as I previously mentioned, the new German BOC compilation "Tattoo Vampire" is not a must-have unless you're a collector, but the artwork is pretty cool. I've scanned the cover and CD tray artwork and put it on my BOC website. http://members.aol.com/bocfaqman and go to the bottom of the "BOC News" page. John From drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jan 6 17:26:06 1999 From: drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM (Torgo) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 17:26:06 -0500 Subject: BOC: Too Hip for the Room Message-ID: Howdy Ho gang: Gee, what could possibly drag me out of my warm little nitch in Lurkerville? Lets find out...... Did anyone else get a mailing today regarding a BOC related project called "Too Hip for the room"? This sounds like a pretty wild album, a bluesy band with a quirky sense of humor doing unusual covers of a (as they put it) "Bucketload" of BOC classics. And to top things off, Buck does the vocals on one track. I plan on getting more info about the project, just curious if anyone else got this thing in the mail, or has maybe heard these guys play. Also, I see on this newsletter that they mention the upcoming BOC King Bisquit Flower Hour collection. Hmmm, got a feelin' 99 is gonna be a good year.... Gone Lurkin....... Torgo has left the building......... *************************************************** drtorgo at hotmail.com http://welcome.to/torgos http://welcome.to/joedon *************************************************** From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jan 6 17:30:17 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:30:17 GMT Subject: HW: skint but richer Message-ID: Well I went on a quick visit to Hull and wandered into a most excellent shop called Andy's Records where it took approximately 5 minutes for my purse to become several dozen pounds lighter than it was before I went in 8-( ! Ah well - nice shop - very nice shop and if anyone is in the area I recommend it highly - he knows his music and was recommending best buys like Hawkwind and Jane's Addiction and other excellent stuff. Anyhow I've collected some Calvert CDs so if anyone is still looking for stuff they don't have I can offer you: Robert Calvert at the Queen Elizabeth Hall Robert Calvert Blueprints from the Cellar Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters And seeing the Live Chronicles 2CD I collected that for myself. The first CD seems to be a reissue of the original GWR version although I haven't played it yet to check and the bonus CD consists of a compilation of tracks froms the 80s: Magnu/ Quark Strangeness and Charm/ Spirit of the Age/ Who's Gonna Win the War/ Ghost Dance/ Master of the Universe/ Choose Your Masques/ Lost Chronicles/ Tides/ Wings/ Lives of Great Men/ Void ofGolden Light/ Techno Tropic Zone Exists/ Gimme Shelter Somebody called Robert Corich has done a brief listing on the inner foldout sleeve to say which albums these tracks have come from with a short info piece on each. The foldout is the Live Chronicles sleeve art but with better printing, nicely done and the CDs have got a close up of the clock face from the cover art to make them into pic discs and they look pretty neat. I'd never realised that the clock was at midnight and you could see a mushroom cloud forming! There's also a short spiel from Dave Brock dated 1998 reiterating the plan for a project between Mike Moorcock and Hawkwind on Mike Butterworth's Ledge of Darkness. I also found what appears to be the Nik Turner/Sphynx "Xitintoday" CD (NIKTCD333) which I assume is the original Sphynx reissue. Haven't played it yet but it looks hopeful! So - that was my Festive Season - Happy New Year to one and all! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jan 6 18:01:18 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 23:01:18 GMT Subject: HW: oh frabjous day!! In-Reply-To: Johan Edlundh's message of Thu, 31 Dec 1998 02:58:44 +0100 Message-ID: Johan Edlundh writes: > not bad - I know people that do not have *any* Japanese Doremi... ;*) mmmmm - so do I but sadly the Edinburgh one is away on a skiing holiday in the States so I can't brag until he get back! If anyone on the list just happens to bump into Mike Holmes in a micro brewery somewhere in San Francisco you have my permission to mention this small fact. > is there any difference between those releases? I'm told that the reissue is far superior in sound quality but I haven't yet matched them up. > do you know when the reissue was released? The reissue is 1982 through King Records, Japan Outwardly the reissue cover doesn't differ much from the original Doremi sleeve except for a manufactured in Japan comment on the back and a Japanese insert inside with what looks to be a brief history of the band. The original Japanese gatefold is a lovely piece of work with the same sleeve design but with good solid hardboard covers and the inner sleeve design printed onto the inside of the gatefold. I'll have to check to see if any track lengths have been sacrificed to make room for Silver Machine. There's also a booklet insert with lyrics in both Japanese and English and some wierd diagram that could either be a Mensa test or some kind of crude circuit board. I guess I'm going to need an interpreter! I don't suppose there is anyone on this list in the Tokyo area just now? If so I'd like to ask you a favour! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From AgentOF at AOL.COM Wed Jan 6 19:06:35 1999 From: AgentOF at AOL.COM (Chuck Saden) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:06:35 EST Subject: BOC: Too Hip for the Room Message-ID: Torgo, Too Hip For The Room is legit. Buck sings a great Reaper/Burnin For You medley. Sort of West Side Story meets the Stray Cat Strut. In Baltimore in April, we had the BOC BBQ East and Too Hip played 43 songs, including at least a dozen unique interpretations of BOC songs. Buck and Danny showed up and Buck joined Too Hip for 16 of the songs, doing Beatles, Beach Boys, BOC including Real World. When you hear the CD, you'd think that Buck is doing the guitar work on Reaper/Burnin, but that's Tony, a very talented guitar player and songwriter. chuck From dahl at AROS.NET Wed Jan 6 21:34:31 1999 From: dahl at AROS.NET (dahl) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:34:31 -0700 Subject: BOC: Flat Out or How I Eat Corn Dogs Message-ID: HEY! Anybody here know abou this: >>>A CD-R of the Buck Dharma (BOC) album "Flat Out" The CD-R was produced by Buck as a "limited edition" for members of the BOC newsgroup on AOL. The disc has one extra track to the original "Gamera Is Missing" an instrumental he did for a guitar magazine around '92 I think???? The disc is signed by Buck himself. Nice item, cool album.<<< If there are copies available, I'd sure like to get one, or do I have to get on AOL to pull this off? Back to being sick, Brad "Hey, check out the quivering fringe on that special doily." Marilyn, a modified dog http://www.moosenet.com/poison.html From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jan 6 22:12:58 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Andrew Wilson) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 03:12:58 -0000 Subject: HW: hi Message-ID: hust thought i'd say hi, i'm new (2nd hand) to the list: i was on ooh about 2 years ago (and if the guy in new zealand still wants the underground zero lp then its styill a spare 2nd copy) and i'm back (worse luck to y'all) anyway that's it, cept to say brainstorm offa doremi has gotta be the track by *anyone* ever. andrew (listening to the soft boys) From mrippa at MEDIASAT.IT Wed Jan 6 23:59:40 1999 From: mrippa at MEDIASAT.IT (Massimo Rippa) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 05:59:40 +0100 Subject: BOC: Flat Out or How I Eat Corn Dogs Message-ID: dahl ha scritto: > Anybody here know abou this: > > >>>A CD-R of the Buck Dharma (BOC) album "Flat Out" > The CD-R was produced by Buck as a "limited edition" for members of the > BOC newsgroup on AOL. It would be quite annoying for non-americans oyster-eaters ;-( Massimo From cando at HIGHFIBER.COM Thu Jan 7 00:04:02 1999 From: cando at HIGHFIBER.COM (James H. Coburn) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 22:04:02 -0700 Subject: BOC: Tattoo Vampire Artwork Message-ID: "Tattoo >Vampire" is not a must-have unless you're a collector, but the artwork >is pretty cool. VERY COOL. James Coburn Albuq., NM From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Thu Jan 7 09:09:49 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:09:49 -0000 Subject: Fw: Hawkwind Passport update! Message-ID: ---------- From: XXX To: BOC_L at listserv.spc.edu Subject: Hawkwind Passport update! Date: 07 January 1999 13:11 Hello all! Just a quick message to let everyone know what is going on with the Hawkwind Passports. They are being processed at the moment but it is taking more time than we anticipated. We will get them back to you soon. The first offer that is open to passport holders only is a limited edition CD. It is called Hawkwind 1997 and was recorded live on the Autumn 1997 UK tour. It is available for ?10 inc postage and packing (UK only, for overseas orders add ?2.50) Please send cheques, POs or money orders made out in pounds sterling only. Write to: PO Box 28 Honiton E. Devon EX14 8AP ENGLAND UK Do not forget to quote your passport number! Happy new year to everyone! Kris P.S. Dave has been granted a visa!!!!!!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Jan 7 09:32:02 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:32:02 +0000 Subject: Fw: Hawkwind Passport update! Message-ID: On tor 7 jan 1999 14.09 +0000 XXX wrote: > P.S. Dave has been granted a visa!!!!!!!! Cool ... Well, I guess I'd better send off for a pass! -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From abrevard at SHL.COM Thu Jan 7 10:20:42 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:20:42 -0600 Subject: HW: Rare Sonic Attack and RR Message-ID: >The current Hawkwind top item is the 1973 one sided 7" promo of Sonic >Attack in a cloth sleeve which would set you back about ?175! >Z A few years back I was having dinner with Robert Rudich (God rest his soul). He told me that while in college he heard a promo version of Sonic Attack, his first encounter with Hawkwind. It made him an instant fan. Up until that time he had never been able to secure a copy of that particular version, something he wanted really bad. Ghost in the Ruins From abrevard at SHL.COM Thu Jan 7 10:24:35 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 09:24:35 -0600 Subject: BOC: B'more BBQ Message-ID: >Did anyone else get a mailing today regarding a BOC related project called "Too Hip for the room"? >Too Hip For The Room is legit. Buck sings a great Reaper/Burnin For You medley. Sort of West Side Story meets the Stray Cat Strut. In Baltimore in April, we had the BOC BBQ East and Too Hip played 43 songs, including at least a dozen unique interpretations of BOC songs. I knew this name was familiar, just couldn't remember where I had heard about them. The B'more BBQ! Good to see your name in lights AOF. Now if only TA can check in from across the great pond. Ghost in the Ruins CDNP - Time of the Oath, Helloween From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Thu Jan 7 11:27:02 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:27:02 -0000 Subject: Fw: Hawkwind Passport update! Message-ID: ---------- From: XXX To: boc-l at listserv.spc.edu Subject: Fw: Hawkwind Passport update! Date: 07 January 1999 14:09 ---------- From: XXX To: BOC_L at listserv.spc.edu Subject: Hawkwind Passport update! Date: 07 January 1999 13:11 Hello all! Just a quick message to let everyone know what is going on with the Hawkwind Passports. They are being processed at the moment but it is taking more time than we anticipated. We will get them back to you soon. The first offer that is open to passport holders only is a limited edition CD. It is called Hawkwind 1997 and was recorded live on the Autumn 1997 UK tour. It is available for ?10 inc postage and packing (UK only, for overseas orders add ?2.50) Please send cheques, POs or money orders made out in pounds sterling only. Write to: PO Box 28 Honiton E. Devon EX14 8AP ENGLAND UK Do not forget to quote your passport number! Happy new year to everyone! Kris P.S. Dave has been granted a visa!!!!!!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Thu Jan 7 11:30:01 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:30:01 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind Passport update Message-ID: Hello all! Just a quick message to let everyone know what is going on with the Hawkwind Passports. They are being processed at the moment but it is taking more time than we anticipated. We will get them back to you soon. The first offer that is open to passport holders only is a limited edition CD. It is called Hawkwind 1997 and was recorded live on the Autumn 1997 UK tour. It is available for ?10 inc postage and packing (UK only, for overseas orders add ?2.50) Please send cheques, POs or money orders made out in pounds sterling only. Write to: PO Box 28 Honiton E. Devon EX14 8AP ENGLAND UK Do not forget to quote your passport number! Happy new year to everyone! Kris P.S. Dave has been granted a visa!!!!!!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Jan 7 11:46:41 1999 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 16:46:41 +0000 Subject: Fw: Hawkwind Passport update! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: How can we quote a passport number when the passports haven't been sent back yet. Mine went back with the 2 photos about 6 weeks back:-( And who do we make the cheques out to? Z At 16:27 07/01/1999 -0000, you wrote: > > >---------- > >To: boc-l at listserv.spc.edu >Subject: Fw: Hawkwind Passport update! >Date: 07 January 1999 14:09 > > > >---------- > >To: BOC_L at listserv.spc.edu >Subject: Hawkwind Passport update! >Date: 07 January 1999 13:11 > >Hello all! > >Just a quick message to let everyone know what is going on with the >Hawkwind Passports. >They are being processed at the moment but it is taking more time than we >anticipated. We will get them back to you soon. >The first offer that is open to passport holders only is a limited edition >CD. It is called Hawkwind 1997 and was recorded live on the Autumn 1997 UK >tour. >It is available for ?10 inc postage and packing (UK only, for overseas >orders add ?2.50) Please send cheques, POs or money orders made out in >pounds sterling only. >Write to: > >PO Box 28 >Honiton >E. Devon >EX14 8AP >ENGLAND >UK > >Do not forget to quote your passport number! > >Happy new year to everyone! > >Kris > >P.S. Dave has been granted a visa!!!!!!!! > > > Zeitgeist-Reflections Of The Underground Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From ted at ALGER.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Jan 7 13:13:51 1999 From: ted at ALGER.DEMON.CO.UK (Ted) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:13:51 +0000 Subject: BOC: B'more BBQ In-Reply-To: <199901071543.IAA02097@docws002.shl.com> Message-ID: Someone speak my initials? yes, we saw THFTR in Baltimore and it was good..... Tony, Paul and Al are great guys too...... Having dinner with the three of them the night before (and the night of, come to think of it) the BBQ was one of the funniest times in recent memory.... these guys should do stand up.... oh yeah, they're all great musicians too... kinda awesome to sit back and watch Paul work on congas.... I have some great pictures from the BBQ, including a great "guitar hero" picture of Tony and some pretty cool ones of Danny M. playing my Ovation. and those shots of Mr. and Mrs. Dharma singing/playing with the band aren't too shabby either.... oh yeah, did I mention myself and several other cultists recording some backing vocals for THFTR's cover of 'Shooting Shark'? told ya you should have wrangled a kitchen pass Ghost! cya Ted ObLP - BOC - "In Concert" Radio show (from the Cultosaurus Tour) >I knew this name was familiar, just couldn't remember where I had heard >about them. The B'more BBQ! Good to see your name in lights AOF. Now if >only TA can check in from across the great pond. > >Ghost in the Ruins > From ted at ALGER.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Jan 7 13:17:44 1999 From: ted at ALGER.DEMON.CO.UK (Ted) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:17:44 +0000 Subject: BOC: Too Hip for the Room In-Reply-To: <199901062226.RAA17213@mailgate.spc.edu> Message-ID: anyone interested... THFTR's address is: P.O. Box 1300 Bellmore NY 11710 or email TooHipRoom at aol.com > >I plan on getting more info about the project, just curious if anyone else >got this thing in the mail, or has maybe heard these >guys play. > From brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Jan 7 14:06:31 1999 From: brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:06:31 -0000 Subject: HW:Large Hairy Bloke In-Reply-To: <199901061000.FAA11019@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hi Everybody, I suffered from a mild attack of nostalgia recently can anyone remember the large hairy roadie who was a feature of the early eighties Hawkwind shows who for no reason, but to great effect mooned at the audience before the hawks came onstage I wonder where he is now? From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Thu Jan 7 14:14:09 1999 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 14:14:09 -0500 Subject: BOC: Too Hip for the Room Message-ID: I got the flyer yesterday for THFTR. I've already got their first album, which has a Reaper/Burnin' medley guested by one Buck Dharma, but I'm eagerly anticipating their release entitled, "Don't Fear The Remake" - it will be the first BOC tribute album (of course most tribute albums aren't done all by one band). THFTR's music is excellent. However, don't expect it to sound anything like BOC. It's acoustic, folksy, bluesy, whimsical, and laid-back. Stylistically, it's not the kind of stuff I particularly like - I've gotten it only to hear their take on BOC tunes (their "Don't Fear the Remake" release is going to include songs such as Veteran of the Psychic Wars, Harvester of Eyes, Last Days of May, Black Blade, Take Me Away, Shooting Shark, In Thee, Sole Survivor, and more). Don't get me wrong, these guys are very talented and creative. It's just not the style of music that I usually enjoy. But, if you enjoy acoustic folksy/bluesy stuff, with a great sense of humor, these guys are great. John From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jan 7 14:16:29 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:16:29 -0000 Subject: Fw: Hawkwind Passport update! In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990107164641.007997a0@pop.dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: Well I *think* I remember my passport number (1038?) from before I sent it back with the mugshots... so I sent off a cheque anyway. With a blank in the payee name because, hey, it's only a tenner when all's said and done! Now, what odds on getting _Hawkwind 1997_ before I get _In Your Area_? (Which I have ordered from America because it doesn't seem to be out here. Or is it?) - Andy ObCD: Deniz Tek - _Outside_. Thinking about the DTG gig in Le Havre on the 29th... mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Jan 7 14:23:34 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 19:23:34 -0000 Subject: BOC: Too Hip for the Room In-Reply-To: <199901071914.OAA09372@mbunix.mitre.org> Message-ID: > THFTR's music is excellent. However, don't expect it to sound anything > like BOC. It's acoustic, folksy, bluesy, whimsical, and laid-back. > Stylistically, it's not the kind of stuff I particularly like - I've > gotten it only to hear their take on BOC tunes (their "Don't Fear the > Remake" release is going to include songs such as Veteran of the Psychic > Wars, Harvester of Eyes, Last Days of May, Black Blade, Take Me Away, > Shooting Shark, In Thee, Sole Survivor, and more). Don't get me > wrong, these guys are very talented and creative. It's just not the > style of music that I usually enjoy. > Hey, I wanna hear a blues version of BB! I woke up this mornin', baby... I had this black sword at my side... An' now it's-a usin' me... An' all mah friends have died... - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Thu Jan 7 17:36:00 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 22:36:00 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind Passport Update Message-ID: Hello all! Just a quick message to let everyone know what is going on with the Hawkwind Passports. They are being processed at the moment but it is taking more time than we anticipated. We will get them back to you soon. The first offer that is open to passport holders only is a limited edition CD. It is called Hawkwind 1997 and was recorded live on the Autumn 1997 UK tour. It is available for ?10 inc postage and packing (UK only, for overseas orders add ?2.50) Please send cheques, POs or money orders made out in pounds sterling only. Write to: PO Box 28 Honiton E. Devon EX14 8AP ENGLAND UK Do not forget to quote your passport number! Happy new year to everyone! Kris P.S. Dave has been granted a visa!!!!!!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu Jan 7 18:06:06 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 18:06:06 EST Subject: Hawkwind Passport Update Message-ID: Deja-vu man !!!!!!!! In a message dated 1/7/99 6:03:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK writes: > > Hello all! > > Just a quick message to let everyone know what is going on with the > Hawkwind Passports. > They are being processed at the moment but it is taking more time than we > anticipated. We will get them back to you soon. > The first offer that is open to passport holders only is a limited edition > CD. It is called Hawkwind 1997 and was recorded live on the Autumn 1997 UK > tour. > It is available for ?10 inc postage and packing (UK only, for overseas > orders add ?2.50) Please send cheques, POs or money orders made out in > pounds sterling only. > Write to: > > PO Box 28 > Honiton > E. Devon > EX14 8AP > ENGLAND > UK > > Do not forget to quote your passport number! > > Happy new year to everyone! > > Kris > > P.S. Dave has been granted a visa!!!!!!!! > From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jan 7 19:16:31 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 00:16:31 +0000 Subject: HW: skint but richer In-Reply-To: <199901062230.WAA29237@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 6 Jan 1999, J Strobridge wrote: > I also found what appears to be the Nik Turner/Sphynx "Xitintoday" CD > (NIKTCD333) which I assume is the original Sphynx reissue. Haven't > played it yet but it looks hopeful! Ha ha - I managed to badly frighten Carl with that when I got it. It's good, but one of the weirdest albums I own, coming in behind 'Trout Mask Replica' and ahead of 'The Raven That Ate The Moon'... Yours, Jon -- /-----------------------------------------------------------\ | Jonathan Jarrett Pembroke College | | jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge | |-----------------------------------------------------------| | "If only you believe, then only you will die" (Motorhead) | \-----------------------------------------------------------/ From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Fri Jan 8 06:57:49 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 11:57:49 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind apologies for multiple messages Message-ID: Hello, Sorry for the multiple messages of yesterday, I don't quite know what happened as the messages were coming back to us rejected and we were receiving no new boc postings???????? In Your Area is available only in the US at the moment, but negotiations are going on for a UK release. Kris et al -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Fri Jan 8 09:11:30 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 14:11:30 -0000 Subject: HW In Your Area and Hawkwind 97 Message-ID: Hawkwind in Your Area is out on Griffin GCD 740-2 Cheques etc for Hawkwind 1997 CD should be made payable to "Hawkwind 97" Best wishes Kris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Fri Jan 8 09:16:57 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 14:16:57 -0000 Subject: HW: Live at Reading 1986 Message-ID: Does anyone have the Live at Reading CD that the BBC put out? Does it have Silver Machine on it? Kris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Fri Jan 8 04:58:21 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 09:58:21 +0000 Subject: BOC: Too Hip for the Room Message-ID: > I got the flyer yesterday for THFTR. > John I got one, too, but I have no idea how! It was initially delivered to a place I moved out of five or six years ago! I'm glad I got the flyer, it's got lots of interesting info on it...but I'm befuddled as to how my name or (old) address were obtained. Anybody know? -- Nick From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Jan 8 09:50:14 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 14:50:14 +0000 Subject: HW: Live at Reading 1986 Message-ID: On fre 8 jan 1999 14.16 +0000 XXX wrote: > Does anyone have the Live at Reading CD that the BBC put out? > Does it have Silver Machine on it? Yes, and yes--though my copy is in the States and I'm in England! >From 1987, I think. The "Silver Machine" is with Lemmy (who can't remember the lyrics, but probably never could :), is about 10 minutes long, and drifts into "Paranoia" or something like that at the end. Not bad! I remember a good "Master of the Universe" on that disc, and a heavy arrangement of "Dream Worker" which was pretty cool. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Fri Jan 8 10:02:02 1999 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:02:02 +0100 Subject: Live at Reading 1986 Message-ID: >Does anyone have the Live at Reading CD that the BBC put out? Yes, me >Does it have Silver Machine on it? YES!!! Bernhard From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jan 8 10:33:16 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 15:33:16 GMT Subject: HW: Live at Reading 1986 In-Reply-To: XXX's message of Fri, 8 Jan 1999 14:16:57 -0000 Message-ID: XXX writes: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_01BE3B11.8C91C9C0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Does anyone have the Live at Reading CD that the BBC put out? > Does it have Silver Machine on it? > > Kris Yes but from memory it's not included on the track listing on the CD itself which came with a little sticker saying "includes extra track" or something of the sort. jill ====================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From abrevard at SHL.COM Fri Jan 8 10:36:52 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 09:36:52 -0600 Subject: BOC:THFTR Message-ID: >oh yeah, did I mention myself and several other cultists recording some backing vocals for THFTR's cover of 'Shooting Shark'? >told ya you should have wrangled a kitchen pass Ghost! >cya >Ted That you did my friend, but as you recall I saved it for the Savatage show that June. Great concert that was. In the end I took a hit though; didn't know Al Pitrelli (guitar) and Jay were buds from way back. Jay wanted a second show that same weekend which the band could not do. Al had broken his arm the night before so couldn't play as much lead and they had to cancel the european tour. To make up for it Sav made a special trip back to Jaxx that Sept. So as it turns out I could have done the BBQ/B'more show with ya and wrangled a pass for the second Sav show. Please don't rub more salt into my open wounds. Besides I would have to do lead vocals on Shooting Shark. Gotta Eddie Kendricks (Temptations) falsetto that would make the ladies howl! Good to see ya post. L8er Ghost in the Ruins CDNP- Ghost of a Disc PS TA - My video store has a copy of Televoid, its never on the shelf though. Still can't find the cd; both me and T-man from New York want to get the cd. From mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM Fri Jan 8 10:43:53 1999 From: mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM (Marc Power) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 10:43:53 -0500 Subject: HW: Golden Void release on Cleopatra Feb 1999? Message-ID: Hi, I just saw this on another list, apparently from the Cleopatra Web site: 02/09/99 * Hawkwind * Golden Void 1969-1979 * Purp * 0471 * $15.98 Anyone know what this is? In Space we Trust, Marc. Send your snail mail address to mpower at ml.com for your FREE live VHS NTSC video of Heavy Cozmic SpaceRockers B?RN to G?. http://members.theglobe.com/spacerockes/btg.html New BtG website http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/borntogo for the Btg Mailing-list http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/spacerockers for all things SpaceRock! From stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM Fri Jan 8 11:04:11 1999 From: stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 11:04:11 -0500 Subject: HW: Golden Void release on Cleopatra Feb 1999? Message-ID: > > > Hi, > I just saw this on another list, apparently from the Cleopatra > Web site: > 02/09/99 * Hawkwind * Golden Void 1969-1979 * Purp * 0471 * $15.98 > > Anyone know what this is? No, but we could have fun guessing ! a) The longest version of Golden Void ever (noone could agree how to end it) b) 10 different versions of GOlden Void from teh very earliest busker version, all the way through to the `79 Dave screwin up thelyrics version c) A description of the bands recollection of the '70's ? Anybody want to bet that Douglas in the Jungle isn't on this ? Cheers, Steve L From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Fri Jan 8 11:07:28 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 16:07:28 -0000 Subject: HW: In Your Area and Hawkwind 97 Message-ID: ---------- From: XXX To: boclist Subject: HW In Your Area and Hawkwind 97 Date: 08 January 1999 14:11 Hawkwind in Your Area is out on Griffin GCD 740-2 Cheques etc for Hawkwind 1997 CD should be made payable to "Hawkwind 97" Best wishes Kris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Please don't rub more >salt into my open wounds. Besides I would have to do lead vocals on >Shooting Shark. Gotta Eddie Kendricks (Temptations) falsetto that would >make the ladies howl! ummmmm, well, when you actually HEAR THFTR's version of 'SS,' you'll understand why the falsetto just wouldn't work..... > >Good to see ya post. > thanks.... I'll try to be a bit more prominent once I get a more reliable modem.... >CDNP- Ghost of a Disc glad to see you're still getting use out of this! >PS TA - My video store has a copy of Televoid, its never on the shelf >though. Still can't find the cd; both me and T-man from New York want to >get the cd. well, I have a copy of the vid.... pretty weird stuff.... as for the CD, try ordering direct maybe? cat# 09006-23097-2 on MIRAMAR Recordings, "Televoid Original Soundtrack" may also be listen under Paul Speer, since he's a solo artist. if all else fails.... email me...I'm sure we can work something out! Ted ObCD - Gary Moore - Out In The Fields - The Very Best (w/ 2nd disc of live and b-sides!) From clemens at TRAIL.COM Fri Jan 8 15:41:53 1999 From: clemens at TRAIL.COM (Clemens) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:41:53 -0700 Subject: HW: In Your Area and Hawkwind 97 Message-ID: Hawkwind 97? Did I miss something? What is this? Mark L. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Fri Jan 8 15:44:49 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 20:44:49 -0000 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Passport Update Message-ID: Hello all! I know that some, if not all, of you will have had this message before, if so I apologise now, (please do not be as rude to me as Massimo Rippa was, you must all have been novices sometime!) Just a quick message to let everyone know what is going on with the Hawkwind Passports. They are being processed at the moment but it is taking more time than we anticipated. We will get them back to you soon. The first offer that is open to passport holders only is a limited edition CD. It is called Hawkwind 1997 and was recorded live on the Autumn 1997 UK tour. It is available for ?10 inc postage and packing (UK only, for overseas orders add ?2.50). Please send cheques, POs or money orders made out in pounds sterling only. Make cheques etc payable to "Hawkwind 97". Write to: PO Box 28 Honiton E. Devon EX14 8AP ENGLAND UK Do not forget to quote your passport number! (If you don't remember it and you have sent off, we should be able to confirm it with your name, although passport numbers will speed things up.) Happy new year to everyone! Bye the way, The Ledge of Darkness will most likely not be known as such and it will not be based on the Bob Walker comic. Kris P.S. Dave has been granted a visa!!!!!!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The comment is a rather anonymous one saying "(Featuring special guest)". ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Thu Jan 7 20:33:58 1999 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:33:58 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind apologies for multiple messages Message-ID: Check with yer service provider. What you describe is often a case of the administrator not knowing how to handle list-serv. He may have thought you were acting as a list-serv. I went thru this with my own provider and in the end, I had Ben Cohen (The owner of this list) in direct contact with my isp provider who then called me and sheepishly admitted his error. Hope that helps, at any rate, it still sounds as if your Isp might be at fault. Ron and Karyn Jennings Hello, Sorry for the multiple messages of yesterday, I don't quite know what happened as the messages were coming back to us rejected and we were receiving no new boc postings???????? Kris et al -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Thu Jan 7 20:39:08 1999 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:39:08 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Passport Deal Question Message-ID: They are being processed at the moment but it is taking more time than we anticipated. We will get them back to you soon. Do not forget to quote your passport number! Happy new year to everyone! Kris P.S. Dave has been granted a visa!!!!!!!! If we have the passports, but have not had the oportunity to have photos taken, and to return them for final processing, are we still eligible? PS. ... Posting in html makes replying very difficult! =) RJ From JOHNANDBEVBONO at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Sat Jan 9 21:56:25 1999 From: JOHNANDBEVBONO at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (JOHN BONO) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 21:56:25 -0500 Subject: BOC: Flat Out or How I Eat Corn Dogs Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: dahl To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Wednesday, January 06, 1999 9:42 PM Subject: BOC: Flat Out or How I Eat Corn Dogs >HEY! > >Anybody here know abou this: > >>>>A CD-R of the Buck Dharma (BOC) album "Flat Out" >The CD-R was produced by Buck as a "limited edition" for members of the >BOC newsgroup on AOL. The disc has one extra track to the original "Gamera >Is Missing" an instrumental he did for a guitar magazine around '92 I >think???? >The disc is signed by Buck himself. >Nice item, cool album.<<< > >If there are copies available, I'd sure like to get one, or do I have to >get on AOL to pull this off? > >Back to being sick, > >Brad > >"Hey, check out the quivering fringe on that special doily." Marilyn, a >modified dog >http://www.moosenet.com/poison.html -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Re Flat out.txt URL: From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri Jan 8 23:20:13 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 12:20:13 +0800 Subject: Live at Reading 1986 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi there Kris Is that the one with the very muscular female on the cover? If so, yes, it does have Silver Machine on it as an encore, with vocals by Lemmy. William -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of XXX Sent: Friday, 8 January 1999 10:17 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: HW: Live at Reading 1986 Does anyone have the Live at Reading CD that the BBC put out? Does it have Silver Machine on it? Kris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET Fri Jan 8 23:18:50 1999 From: corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 23:18:50 -0500 Subject: HW: Re: Hawkwind Passport Update Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri Jan 8 23:33:23 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 12:33:23 +0800 Subject: Live at Reading 1986 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Kris I can send you the Silver Machine track as an MP3 file (which is in a compressed format, but has not lost any of the original quality, as it is done so with the highest quality). If you need any software to convert it back to a wave file, there is quite a few of these for free on the internet, or I can send you one as well. The whole track is about 1/12th the original size when compressed, so it shouldn't take to long to recieve. William -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On Behalf Of XXX Sent: Friday, 8 January 1999 10:17 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: HW: Live at Reading 1986 Does anyone have the Live at Reading CD that the BBC put out? Does it have Silver Machine on it? Kris -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET Fri Jan 8 23:33:57 1999 From: corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 23:33:57 -0500 Subject: BOC: Tattoo Vampire Artwork Message-ID: Love the Millenium snake around the BOC cross. (for our UK readers Millenium is a series stateside from the X-files guy) (unless you get it on your side or the pond too) Mike John A Swartz wrote: > Well, as I previously mentioned, the new German BOC compilation "Tattoo > Vampire" is not a must-have unless you're a collector, but the artwork > is pretty cool. I've scanned the cover and CD tray artwork and put it > on my BOC website. http://members.aol.com/bocfaqman and go to the > bottom of the "BOC News" page. > > John From adawson at CLARA.NET Sat Jan 9 03:51:36 1999 From: adawson at CLARA.NET (Andrew Dawson) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 08:51:36 +0000 Subject: HW: Re: Hawkwind Passport Update In-Reply-To: <3696D8AA.988C5196@global2000.net> Message-ID: At 23:18 08/01/99 -0500, you wrote: > Lurker here who had to delete a bunch of Digests. What is the passport? Date : 12:09:1998 >From the Mission Control Website http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/ Date : 12:09:1998 HAWKWIND PASSPORTS COMMUNIQUE............................................... HAWKWIND PASSPORTS ARE NOW AVAILABLE. SEND AN A5 SAE TO HAWKWIND PASSPORTS PO BOX 28 HONITON EAST DEVON EX14 8AP ENGLAND UK APPLICANTS MUST FILL IN DETAILS AND RETURN TO US FOR VALIDATION. PASSPORTS WILL GIVE ACCESS TO SPECIAL CDs, VIDEOS AND PRIVATE FUNCTIONS. END OF MESSAGE........................................ Sorry 'bout the capitals. Cut and paste job. Andy Andrew Dawson adawson at clara.net Into Hawkwind ? Then check out the Worldwide discography. http://home.clara.net/adawson From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jan 8 08:35:06 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1999 13:35:06 +0000 Subject: HW: In Your US Area In-Reply-To: <89392.3124785727@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <89392.3124785727 at cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk>, Carl Edlund Anderson writes > Woah. New Hawkwind out only in the US?! There's something >you don't see every day. This is without precedent, is it not? I am thwarted! Denied! -- Jon From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Sat Jan 9 06:48:45 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 22:48:45 +1100 Subject: Live at Reading 1986 Message-ID: On 9 Jan 99, at 12:20, William Duffy wrote: > Is that the one with the very muscular female on the cover? If so, yes, it > does have Silver Machine on it as an encore, with vocals by Lemmy. And featuring Dumpy ... Soniqu? -- PO Box 884 Paul Ward Mt Waverley http://sonique.net VIC 3149 (time permitting) Mob:0418 524744 sonique at sonique.net From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sat Jan 9 07:30:59 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 12:30:59 +0000 Subject: Live at Reading 1986 Message-ID: On l?r 9 jan 1999 22.48 +1100 Soniqu? wrote: > And featuring Dumpy ... Good heavens, yes, that's right! How could I forget? (Well, by not having seen the CD since 1995 :/ ) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Jan 9 19:44:32 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1999 19:44:32 EST Subject: OFF: Third World War Message-ID: I remember some talk about this group a few years ago. Thought someone might be interested... Chuck From: "Ron Mellot" As a rule I prefer to trade, but I will considering selling if a trade can't be worked out. Here's what I have at the moment Third World War - s/t (Repertoire 1971) Third World War - II (Repertoire 1972) Thanks for looking, Ron. From adawson at CLARA.NET Sun Jan 10 05:14:06 1999 From: adawson at CLARA.NET (Andrew Dawson) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:14:06 +0000 Subject: HW: From the newsgroups Message-ID: Hi folks, thought you might be interested in this from the alt.music.psychedelic newsgroup redroad at btinternet.com wrote in message Will Hawkwind tour the UK this year ? Does anyone know if there are any plans to tour ? to which marie at fawe.demon.co.uk replied Hopefully, yes. They may be touring the USA and Japan on their Ledge of Darkness tour, with a UK tour planned, maybe, in Autumn. The live vid from the last tour is due out very soon, but has been put back a few times, so don't hold your breath. Same for the live album, 'Hawkwind In Your Area'. Keep an eye out on various festivals, Bike club gathering etc (paticularly Pentrich, Rock and Blues as they've played that couple of times this decade) as they could test out the new stuff. Meanwhile, Alan Davey (ex bass player) will be touring with Bedouin in the UK again late February, through to March 99. I have a few dates scattered around somewhere, but nothing definite yet. If anyone wants gig dates, contact me in a couple of weeks time. I should have a fairly complete gig list by then. Cheers Marie Anyone have any more details. Andy Andrew Dawson adawson at clara.net Into Hawkwind ? Then check out the Worldwide discography. http://home.clara.net/adawson From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun Jan 10 08:02:52 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 13:02:52 +0000 Subject: HW: From the newsgroups Message-ID: On s?n 10 jan 1999 10.14 +0000 "Andrew Dawson" wrote: > to which marie at fawe.demon.co.uk replied > Meanwhile, Alan Davey (ex bass player) will be touring with Bedouin in the > UK again late February, through to March 99. I have a few dates scattered > around somewhere, but nothing definite yet. If anyone wants gig dates, > contact me in a couple of weeks time. I should have a fairly complete gig > list by then. > Anyone have any more details. This is *GOOD* news! Means I'll get to see them again before I finish my degree :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jan 10 15:34:32 1999 From: brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:34:32 -0000 Subject: Live at Reading 1986 Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Soniqu? [mailto:sonique at SONIQUE.NET] > Sent: 09 January 1999 11:49 > Subject: Re: Live at Reading 1986 > > > On 9 Jan 99, at 12:20, William Duffy wrote: > > > Is that the one with the very muscular female on the cover? If > so, yes, it > > does have Silver Machine on it as an encore, with vocals by Lemmy. > > And featuring Dumpy ... > > Soniqu? > -- As I remember Dumpys contribution was to prance round the stage with a set of handlebars I don't think they let him near a mike From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sun Jan 10 18:09:44 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 18:09:44 EST Subject: Born To Go Message-ID: Does anyone out there have a good audio copy of Born To Go from Strange Daze 98. let me know if you do and maybe we can set up a swap. bob http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Sun Jan 10 19:09:30 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:09:30 +0900 Subject: HW: From the newsgroups Message-ID: > > Hopefully, yes. They may be touring the USA and Japan on their Ledge of > Darkness tour, with a UK tour planned, maybe, in Autumn. WHAT!!! Hawkwind over here in Japan? When? Where? Is this for real Kris? If so, do you need a local promoter? :-) Dave (Hawkless in Tokyo) From corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET Sun Jan 10 20:24:46 1999 From: corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1999 20:24:46 -0500 Subject: HW: From the newsgroups Message-ID: Marie You have made quite a stir on the BOC-L Discussion list, many would like to know the source of your information :) BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU Thanx Mike Andrew Dawson wrote: > Hi folks, > thought you might be interested in this from the alt.music.psychedelic > newsgroup > > redroad at btinternet.com wrote in message > > Will Hawkwind tour the UK this year ? Does anyone know if there are any > plans to tour ? > > to which marie at fawe.demon.co.uk replied > > Hopefully, yes. They may be touring the USA and Japan on their Ledge of > Darkness tour, with a UK tour planned, maybe, in Autumn. The live vid from > the last tour is due out very soon, but has been put back a few times, so > don't hold your breath. Same for the live album, 'Hawkwind In Your Area'. > Keep an eye out on various festivals, Bike club gathering etc (paticularly > Pentrich, Rock and Blues as they've played that couple of times this decade) > as they could test out the new stuff. > Meanwhile, Alan Davey (ex bass player) will be touring with Bedouin in the > UK again late February, through to March 99. I have a few dates scattered > around somewhere, but nothing definite yet. If anyone wants gig dates, > contact me in a couple of weeks time. I should have a fairly complete gig > list by then. > > Cheers Marie > > Anyone have any more details. > > Andy > > Andrew Dawson > adawson at clara.net > Into Hawkwind ? > Then check out the Worldwide discography. > http://home.clara.net/adawson From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Jan 10 21:25:17 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:25:17 +0000 Subject: BOC: 'The Stoned Age' movie Message-ID: Dear All, a reference to this on another list came up, a movie in which BOC apparently appear? Does anyone know anything about it, and if it can be got hold of anywhere? Yours, Jon -- /-----------------------------------------------------------\ | Jonathan Jarrett Pembroke College | | jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge | |-----------------------------------------------------------| | "If only you believe, then only you will die" (Motorhead) | \-----------------------------------------------------------/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun Jan 10 22:24:26 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 03:24:26 +0000 Subject: BOC: 'The Stoned Age' movie Message-ID: On m?n 11 jan 1999 02.25 +0000 "Jonathan Jarrett" wrote: > a reference to this on another list came up, a movie in > which BOC apparently appear? Does anyone know anything about it, and if it > can be got hold of anywhere? Came out a couple of years ago. Buck and Eric had cameos as guys selling bootleg T-shirts outside a BOC concert, I believe :) I think it was a straight-to-video affair, if that ... not unlike _Bad Channels_ :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Sun Jan 10 23:54:32 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 04:54:32 +0000 Subject: BOC: 'The Stoned Age' movie Message-ID: > > a reference to this on another list came up, a movie in > > which BOC apparently appear? Does anyone know anything about it, and if it > > can be got hold of anywhere? > > Came out a couple of years ago. Buck and Eric had cameos as > guys selling bootleg T-shirts outside a BOC concert, I believe :) I think they were outside a convenience store...and just so you know, you have to wait until after the credits for the cameo. Warning: This is an absolutely HORRIBLE movie...an even smaller-budget attempt than "Dazed and Confused" to cash in on the current nostalgia craze. Very little attention was put into authentic detail, vernacular, etc. Along those same lines, although the movie is set in the '70s, they play BFY. That said, I think "Stoned Age" is required viewing for BOC fans, because hardly a frame of this film goes by without some visual or verbal reference to BOC. Obviously someone involved in the making of this movie is a big fan. Unfortunately, it seems he or she was skipping film glass to listen to their albums. -- Nick From edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK Mon Jan 11 08:54:00 1999 From: edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 13:54:00 GMT Subject: Live at Reading 1986 Message-ID: From: Mark Edmonds Date: 1999-01-11 13:54 >And featuring Dumpy ... >Soniqui Hang about - this isn't any connection with Dumpy's Rusty Nuts is it? (God, my memory is bad these days). MArk From edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK Mon Jan 11 09:00:00 1999 From: edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:00:00 GMT Subject: Pre-emptive strike to avo Message-ID: From: Mark Edmonds Date: 1999-01-11 14:00 Sorry folks, please ignore my just-clicked-5-seconds-ago post about Dumpy's Rusty Nuts. I just realised what I was typing in! Mark From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Mon Jan 11 09:26:00 1999 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 14:26:00 +0000 Subject: Live at Reading 1986 In-Reply-To: <4348@ems.rail.co.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Mark Edmonds wrote: > >And featuring Dumpy ... > >Soniqui > > Hang about - this isn't any connection with Dumpy's Rusty Nuts is it? The very same. I thought that he not only used the handlebars as a prop, but also used them as a horn type device. I definitely heard it played at that Reading, but it might have been during his set rather than HW's. And was this all before Alan did a tour with him on bass, or after? Mike w From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Mon Jan 11 09:22:00 1999 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 09:22:00 -0500 Subject: BOC: Orchestral Metallica means live Astronomy? Message-ID: I found this at http://www.goodnoise.com/news/jan99/8met.html : >Metallica held a press conference in San Francisco, CA yesterday (January 6) to announce that they will perform with classical music >composer Michael Kamen and the San Francisco Symphony for two Bay Area performances. Kamen is no stranger to rock music; he >orchestrated Metallica's "Nothing Else Matters" for their 1991 album, Metallica. He has also worked with Pink Floyd, David Bowie, >Eric Clapton, and many other rock musicians. The two-night program will feature music from Metallica's entire career, from Kill 'Em >All to Re-Load, and possibly some brand new songs. The collaboration will take place at Berkley, CA's Community Theater on April >21 and 22. Tickets go on sale for $40 plus service charges on Sunday (January 9) from BASS ticket outlets. If you happen to be going >to the Bay Area you can purchase tickets by phone at (415) 478-BASS. --OnRadio This would be the perfect opportunity to unleash "Astronomy" live. Any fans of "Orchestral [band name here]" albums know if they've ever done covers? Brian ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html -The new Fierce Wicker electronic showroom ---------- From iplug at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Jan 11 11:09:44 1999 From: iplug at HOTMAIL.COM (Joseph Brooks) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:09:44 -0800 Subject: 'The Stoned Age' movie Message-ID: In "The Stoned Age", BOC makes a *very* brief appearance. One of the main characters is a fan, goes to a BOC show and hallucinates a glowing eye during DFTR (which his friend insists is a "pussy" song), they show BOC on stage for what, about 3 seconds? Oh and the chick that they're trying to bag all night in the movie wears a BOC T-shirt. Its all in da FAQ... JB "Whatever you do, take care of your shoes.." -- Phish "So Ladies, Fish and Gentlemen, here's my angled dream.." -- Blue Oyster Cult ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Jarrett Sent: Sunday, January 10, 1999 6:25 PM Subject: BOC: 'The Stoned Age' movie > Dear All, > a reference to this on another list came up, a movie in >which BOC apparently appear? Does anyone know anything about it, and if it >can be got hold of anywhere? Yours, > Jon >-- > /-----------------------------------------------------------\ > | Jonathan Jarrett Pembroke College | > | jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge | > |-----------------------------------------------------------| > | "If only you believe, then only you will die" (Motorhead) | > \-----------------------------------------------------------/ From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Mon Jan 11 11:22:39 1999 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 17:22:39 +0100 Subject: HW: Arian Parr's Hawkwindpage Message-ID: Hi folks Here is the address from Arian Parr's Hawkwindpage http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html It is still under construcktion but contains some usefull informations. Bernhard From abrevard at SHL.COM Mon Jan 11 11:44:53 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 08:44:53 -0800 Subject: BOC: Stoned Age Message-ID: >This is an absolutely HORRIBLE movie...an even smaller-budget attempt than "Dazed and Confused" to cash in on the current nostalgia craze. Very little attention was put into authentic detail, vernacular, etc. Along those same lines, although the movie is set in the '70s, they play BFY. >That said, I think "Stoned Age" is required viewing for BOC fans, because hardly a frame of this film goes by without some visual or verbal reference to BOC. Obviously someone involved in the making of this movie is a big fan. Unfortunately, it seems he or she was skipping film glass to listen to their albums. All of the above is too true. However I was throughly impressed by the T&M and BOC t-shirts. Hard to find better advertisement if you know what I mean. hehehehehehehehe L8er Ghost in the Ruins CDNP - Galactic Cowboys - Machine Fish From abrevard at SHL.COM Mon Jan 11 11:50:15 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 10:50:15 -0600 Subject: OFF: Televoid Message-ID: >well, I have a copy of the vid.... pretty weird stuff.... as for the CD, try ordering direct maybe? cat# 09006-23097-2 on MIRAMAR Recordings, "Televoid Original Soundtrack" may also be listen under Paul Speer, since he's a solo artist. if all else fails.... email me...I'm sure we can work something out! I've been looking under Soundtracks. Never occurred to me to look under Speer's name. Reminds me of the time spent looking for Gary Hoey's Endless Summer II soundtrack. Found it under Hoey in one store and Soundtracks in another. Thanks Ghost in the Ruins OBPS - John Swartz, taking a flyer here but do you know anything about Drain STH? Saw a picture in Metal Edge and figured you may know something about them for reasons I find obvious. Think Vixen. Thanks in advance. From clemens at TRAIL.COM Mon Jan 11 14:33:02 1999 From: clemens at TRAIL.COM (Clemens) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 12:33:02 -0700 Subject: hawkstuff Message-ID: Anyone needing some hawkwind stuff should peruse the attachment and contact Philip at blorp at juno.com Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: blorp at juno.com (philip e kasiaras) Subject: Hawkwind list 1/11/1999 Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 02:40:42 -0500 Size: 4426 URL: From crow at ASCENT.NET Mon Jan 11 16:19:21 1999 From: crow at ASCENT.NET (crow) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:19:21 -0500 Subject: I'm new here Message-ID: Hello. I just joined the list and wanted to make my presence known. I love BOC and tBS. I've tried to get a hold of some HW but have had very poor luck in my attempts. Actually, I was on this list a few years ago 'til my mail server went belly-up. But now I'm back with a new name and a new address. I'll try not to lurk in the shadows too much. crow (there's no place like home... there's no place like home...) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Mon Jan 11 16:34:04 1999 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 16:34:04 -0500 Subject: OFF: Televoid Message-ID: Don't know much about Drain STH, except that they're an all-female metal band from Sweden, and presumably very heavy. Not bad looking, but I suppose it's sexist of me to say that... John From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jan 11 17:36:20 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 22:36:20 -0000 Subject: Live at Reading 1986 Message-ID: Yep, Alan's tour with Dumpy was in Summer '88 and can be heard on the 'Firkin Well Live' double album. As I recall Dumpy played guitar with Hawkwind at Reading (possibly using the handlebars as a slide, as he often did). However when he guested with at the Hammersmith that autumn all he did, was as was pointed out, was leap about the stage. Nick -----Original Message----- From: M S Wright To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 11 January 1999 14:34 Subject: Re: Live at Reading 1986 >On Mon, 11 Jan 1999, Mark Edmonds wrote: >> >And featuring Dumpy ... >> >Soniqui >> >> Hang about - this isn't any connection with Dumpy's Rusty Nuts is it? > >The very same. I thought that he not only used the handlebars as a prop, >but also used them as a horn type device. I definitely heard it played at >that Reading, but it might have been during his set rather than HW's. > >And was this all before Alan did a tour with him on bass, or after? > >Mike w > From squinn at PALMNET.NET Mon Jan 11 19:20:23 1999 From: squinn at PALMNET.NET (Shawn Quinn) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 19:20:23 -0500 Subject: BOC: 'The Stoned Age' movie In-Reply-To: <199901111037.FAA03663@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: I know I'm in the minority on this one but I thought the movie was hilarious - certainly not to be taken seriously - kind of reminded me of some folks in high school (early 80s). (Not me - of course.) More BOC is played in this movie then any other I can think of - not counting concert movies. Shawn At 04:54 AM 1/11/99 +0000, you wrote: >> > a reference to this on another list came up, a movie in >> > which BOC apparently appear? Does anyone know anything about it, and if it >> > can be got hold of anywhere? >> >> Came out a couple of years ago. Buck and Eric had cameos as >> guys selling bootleg T-shirts outside a BOC concert, I believe :) > >I think they were outside a convenience store...and just so you know, >you have to wait until after the credits for the cameo. Warning: >This is an absolutely HORRIBLE movie...an even smaller-budget attempt >than "Dazed and Confused" to cash in on the current nostalgia craze. Very little >attention was put into authentic detail, vernacular, etc. Along those >same lines, although the movie is set in the '70s, they play BFY. > >That said, I think "Stoned Age" is required viewing for BOC fans, >because hardly a frame of this film goes by without some visual or >verbal reference to BOC. Obviously someone involved in the making of >this movie is a big fan. Unfortunately, it seems he or she was >skipping film glass to listen to their albums. > >-- Nick > From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Mon Jan 11 22:39:49 1999 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1999 21:39:49 -0600 Subject: 'The Stoned Age' movie Message-ID: I kind of liked this movie, I really thought it was a lot better (more fun anyway) than Dazed and Confused. Yes that T&M shirt that Lanie wore was cool, wouldn't mind trying out the "Agents of Fortune" theory on her . At the end of the movie Buck and Eric make a cameo, when Joe and Hubbs are walking out of the convenience store Buck says "Hey cult jacket" (to Joe because he was wearing that jean jacket with the kronos symbol on the back), Buck and Eric then proceed in trying to sell him some concert shirts for 5 bucks. Joe and Hubbs thinking the shirts are bootlegged, proceeded to give them shit for "ripping off the band", as they walk away Eric turns to Buck and says "4 bucks". The cameo is after the credits, and if you have seen the movie and missed this (Like I did the first time I rented it), then you should definitely rent it again, it's pretty amusing to say the least :-). Laj. Joseph Brooks wrote: > In "The Stoned Age", BOC makes a *very* brief appearance. One of the main > characters is a fan, goes to a BOC show and hallucinates a glowing eye > during DFTR (which his friend insists is a "pussy" song), they show BOC on > stage for what, about 3 seconds? Oh and the chick that they're trying to bag > all night in the movie wears a BOC T-shirt. > Its all in da FAQ... > > JB > "Whatever you do, take care of your shoes.." -- Phish > "So Ladies, Fish and Gentlemen, here's my angled dream.." -- Blue Oyster > Cult > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jonathan Jarrett > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 1999 6:25 PM > Subject: BOC: 'The Stoned Age' movie > > > Dear All, > > a reference to this on another list came up, a movie in > >which BOC apparently appear? Does anyone know anything about it, and if it > >can be got hold of anywhere? Yours, > > Jon > >-- > > /-----------------------------------------------------------\ > > | Jonathan Jarrett Pembroke College | > > | jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge | > > |-----------------------------------------------------------| > > | "If only you believe, then only you will die" (Motorhead) | > > \-----------------------------------------------------------/ From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Jan 12 04:29:16 1999 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Rich Lockwood) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:29:16 +0000 Subject: Live at Reading 1986 / Dumpy Message-ID: Dumpy Dunnell - the very same. He sprayed lager up my arse live on stage at Huddersfield Polytechnic you know... (Ah, the bad old days.) I was listening to Somewhere in England over the Christmas Holiday. I was drunk. Does anyone know if they're still going? (Or Engine, come to that?) Cheers, Rich. > From: Mark Edmonds > Date: 1999-01-11 13:54 > > >And featuring Dumpy ... > >Soniqui > > Hang about - this isn't any connection with Dumpy's Rusty Nuts is it? > (God, > my memory is bad these days). > > MArk From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Jan 12 06:58:22 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 11:58:22 +0000 Subject: Live at Reading 1986 / Dumpy Message-ID: On tis 12 jan 1999 09.29 +0000 "Rich Lockwood" wrote: > Does anyone know if they're still going? (Or Engine, come to that?) Dumpy's Rusty Nuts toured through Cambridge a couple of years ago. Haven't sighted 'em since, though. -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From d.c.chilton at BHAM.AC.UK Tue Jan 12 07:02:22 1999 From: d.c.chilton at BHAM.AC.UK (Derrick Chilton) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:02:22 +0000 Subject: Live at Reading 1986 / Dumpy Message-ID: > Dumpy Dunnell - the very same. He sprayed lager up my arse live on > stage at Huddersfield Polytechnic you know... (Ah, the bad old days.) > I was listening to Somewhere in England over the Christmas Holiday. I > was drunk. > Delurking... I remeber that...Boxhill or Bust. Saw him at wolverhampton poly 1988 Alan davey was his "new" borrowed bass player. They played Hawkwind... :-) Derrick... From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Jan 12 07:22:40 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:22:40 +0000 Subject: OFF: Televoid Message-ID: On m?n 11 jan 1999 16.34 -0500 "John A Swartz" wrote: > Don't know much about Drain STH, except that they're an all-female metal > band from Sweden, and presumably very heavy. Not bad looking, but I > suppose it's sexist of me to say that... "Wot's wrong wiv being sexy?" ;) Not heard Drain STH, though I've been told Misdemeanor (whom I have heard) are better. Considering how much Misdemeanor rock (lots) Drain STH might still be not too bad :) Misdemeanor are an all-female band from Stockholm, and I've no idea what they look like! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From abrevard at SHL.COM Tue Jan 12 10:53:30 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 07:53:30 -0800 Subject: OFF Drain STH Message-ID: >Don't know much about Drain STH, except that they're an all-female metal band from Sweden, and presumably very heavy. Not bad looking, but I suppose it's sexist of me to say that... >John Kewl, just wondered if you had heard any of their stuff. I knew their name, connected with some of those metal fests but never realized until seeing them that it was an all ladies band. Now I'm really interested in hearing them. BTW a beautiful lady is a beautiful lady. L8er Ghost in the Ruins CDNP - Ted Nugent, Live at Hammersmith's '79 From iplug at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jan 12 11:38:33 1999 From: iplug at HOTMAIL.COM (Joseph Brooks) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 08:38:33 -0800 Subject: 'The Stoned Age' movie Message-ID: I do seem to recall a very brief concert clip of the Cult.. Its been a while though and, as I recall, I wasn't paying close attention to the movie. Can anyone confirm this? I also missed the cameo after the credits but, I can't say that I'd want to sit through the movie again just to see it. Though the blond chick in the T&M shirt was not too hard to take... JB "Whatever you do, take care of your shoes.." -- Phish "So Ladies, Fish and Gentlemen, here's my angled dream.." -- Blue Oyster Cult ----- Original Message ----- From: Laj Waldner Sent: Monday, January 11, 1999 7:39 PM Subject: Re: 'The Stoned Age' movie >I kind of liked this movie, I really thought it was a lot better (more fun >anyway) than Dazed and Confused. Yes that T&M shirt that Lanie wore was cool, >wouldn't mind trying out the "Agents of Fortune" theory on her snicker>. At the end of the movie Buck and Eric make a cameo, when Joe and Hubbs >are walking out of the convenience store Buck says "Hey cult jacket" (to Joe >because he was wearing that jean jacket with the kronos symbol on the back), >Buck and Eric then proceed in trying to sell him some concert shirts for 5 >bucks. Joe and Hubbs thinking the shirts are bootlegged, proceeded to give them >shit for "ripping off the band", as they walk away Eric turns to Buck and says >"4 bucks". The cameo is after the credits, and if you have seen the movie and >missed this (Like I did the first time I rented it), then you should definitely >rent it again, it's pretty amusing to say the least :-). > >Laj. > > >Joseph Brooks wrote: > >> In "The Stoned Age", BOC makes a *very* brief appearance. One of the main >> characters is a fan, goes to a BOC show and hallucinates a glowing eye >> during DFTR (which his friend insists is a "pussy" song), they show BOC on >> stage for what, about 3 seconds? Oh and the chick that they're trying to bag >> all night in the movie wears a BOC T-shirt. >> Its all in da FAQ... >> >> JB >> "Whatever you do, take care of your shoes.." -- Phish >> "So Ladies, Fish and Gentlemen, here's my angled dream.." -- Blue Oyster >> Cult >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jonathan Jarrett >> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 1999 6:25 PM >> Subject: BOC: 'The Stoned Age' movie >> >> > Dear All, >> > a reference to this on another list came up, a movie in >> >which BOC apparently appear? Does anyone know anything about it, and if it >> >can be got hold of anywhere? Yours, >> > Jon >> >-- >> > /-----------------------------------------------------------\ >> > | Jonathan Jarrett Pembroke College | >> > | jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge | >> > |-----------------------------------------------------------| >> > | "If only you believe, then only you will die" (Motorhead) | >> > \-----------------------------------------------------------/ From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jan 12 12:55:08 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:55:08 GMT Subject: Live at Reading 1986 / Dumpy In-Reply-To: Rich Lockwood's message of Tue, 12 Jan 1999 09:29:16 +0000 Message-ID: Rich Lockwood writes: > Dumpy Dunnell - the very same. He sprayed lager up my arse live on > stage at Huddersfield Polytechnic you know... (Ah, the bad old days.) > I was listening to Somewhere in England over the Christmas Holiday. I > was drunk. > > Does anyone know if they're still going? (Or Engine, come to that?) He came up as far as Edinburgh 2/3 years back - and an entertaining evening was had by all. He covered practically every music style you can think of and I had the impression (standing quietly in the shadows at the back 'cos most of the audience were seriously serious biker types and I'm most definitely not!) that he and the band were much better musicians than they pretended to be. They started off with some guy wandering on stage in what looked to be a space suit - something which others appeared to understand but I missed completely and there was an enthusiastic bit of arse exposure as a finale. And, yes, they played the Hawkwind anthem! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Jan 12 13:50:14 1999 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:50:14 +0000 Subject: OFF/ Dumpy In-Reply-To: <199901121755.RAA23804@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Yup, I was there as well. Also saw him on the Chronicles tour when with the benefit of his cordless guitar he went for a wander through the Edinburgh Playhouse. Unfortunately, he remembered my *chemically* enhanced state, for 2 weeks later when he played the somewhat smaller Venue, he came off stage, wandered over, still playing guitar, asked me how I was feeling now, and nicked my pint. Bastard! He was still on the go last year, if the concert bills in numerous biker mags are anything to go by. And ye, Jill, I was one of those "biker types". In appearance, anyway. Z NP Waren Haynes - Tales Of Ordinary Madness At 17:55 12/01/1999 GMT, you wrote: >He came up as far as Edinburgh 2/3 years back - and an entertaining >evening was had by all. He covered practically every music style you >can think of and I had the impression (standing quietly in the shadows at >the back 'cos most of the audience were seriously serious biker types >and I'm most definitely not!) that he and the band were much better >musicians than they pretended to be. They started off with some guy >wandering on stage in what looked to be a space suit - something which >others appeared to understand but I missed completely and there was an >enthusiastic bit of arse exposure as a finale. And, yes, they played >the Hawkwind anthem! > >jill > >=========================================================================== >J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk > ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Zeitgeist-Reflections Of The Underground e-zine & freezine Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jan 12 15:18:02 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:18:02 -0500 Subject: OFF: Amon Duul 2 Message-ID: Interesting article on AD2 can be found here... http://www.dfuse.com/the-wire/out/0398_1.htm Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Anyone heard this new Sleep (opened for Nik/Creed Space Ritual tour) album, 'Jerusalem.' I hear it's one 53-minute long track. (?) Seems odd that a sludge/stoner band would do this sort of project...I'm intrigued by what it could be. Anyone?? From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Tue Jan 12 15:31:08 1999 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:31:08 -0600 Subject: OFF: Amon Duul 2 Message-ID: > P.S. Anyone heard this new Sleep (opened for Nik/Creed Space Ritual tour) > album, 'Jerusalem.' I hear it's one 53-minute long track. (?) Seems odd > that a sludge/stoner band would do this sort of project...I'm intrigued by > what it could be. Anyone?? I haven't heard it, but I would like to get hold of it. I have an article from Chicago Reader last Fall about "the holy grail of of stoner metal", the album "Jerusalem" from Sleep. I like the band, and the article had what I consider high praise, calling the album's one song "one massive post-Sabbath symphonic drone of a song." "... suggest the cathedral-filling drones of some extremely baked midnight mass - one for which Cisneros's book-rewriting hard-rock bass, Pike's mind-bending guitar, and Hakius's insistent psychedelic march beat provide an ideal sound track." "... slowed down Sabbath detuned to C." "...sheer power-trio heft becomes hypnotic, even spiritual" "Sustaining a coherent song and groove at great length, with myriad sibtle developments on a basic theme..." The only problem was that this album apparently never came out. Is it officially out now? Frank --- I bought some batteries, but they weren't included. -- Stephen Wright ============================================================ Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 Frank --- A friend of mine gave me a Philip Glass record. I listened to it for five hours before I realized it had a scratch on it. -- Emo Phillips ============================================================ Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Jan 12 15:40:12 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 12:40:12 -0800 Subject: OFF: Sleep Jerusalem (was: Amon Duul 2) Message-ID: Apparently, the 'Jerusalem' track/album was recorded by Sleep some time ago (right after the Nik tour, I think), and promptly rejected by their label (Earache). I'd heard that they finally found a label (or just released it themselves) for it, so I'm eager to hear it! I don't see why it would be a surprise to hear something that extreme from Sleep, though; after all, their set opening for Nik consisted of 3 songs, one of which ("Dopesmoker") ran about 25-30 minutes. And if this sounds enticing, I would also highly recommend the band Earth, who have had at least a couple albums on Sub Pop. (and, if you really wanna go out on a limb, some of the UK noise/rock bands like Skullflower, Ramleh, Total, and even some of the Simon Wickham-Smith/Richard Youngs stuff like the 'Ceaucescu' LP on Forced Exposure). -Doug ceres at sirius.com On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:31:08 -0600, Frank Weil wrote: >Keith Henderson wrote: >> P.S. Anyone heard this new Sleep (opened for Nik/Creed Space Ritual tour) >> album, 'Jerusalem.' I hear it's one 53-minute long track. (?) Seems odd >> that a sludge/stoner band would do this sort of project...I'm intrigued by >> what it could be. Anyone?? > >I haven't heard it, but I would like to get hold of it. > >The only problem was that this album apparently never came out. Is it >officially out now? From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Jan 12 17:22:36 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:22:36 -0500 Subject: OFF: Sleep Jerusalem (was: Amon Duul 2) Message-ID: OK, folks... The review I read (Sonic Unyon's "The Stink" publication) said the following... Sleep - Jerusalem (Music Cartel) "If you can find it, Sleep's Jerusalem is the heaviest record you will hear all year. Consisting of one fifty-three minute long song, Jerusalem is kind of like the Black Sabbath equivalent of Pink Floyd's Echoes. It runs its course and holds your attention for the duration fo the album, something which some epic stoner rock jams fail to do. So find it, light up, and freak out, 'cause Sleep will leave you feeling all right." >>The only problem was that this album apparently never came out. Is it >>officially out now? So, I searched on Music Cartel and Lo and behold, found... http://www.music-cartel.com with the album listed (with photo) in their new releases section. The release date was given as 1/26/99, so it will be out officially two weeks from today. They had a link to CD-Now so I guess it won't be so hard to find it after all. They reiterated the fact that the recording had sat around for a few years before finally now seeing the light of day. BTW, Music Cartel seems to be a label focussed mainly on stoner rock, so any of you stoneheads (?) looking for some new blood might want to check it out anyway. That's all...Keith H. (FAA) ObCD: Hissi - Circle From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Jan 12 18:31:57 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:31:57 +0000 Subject: OFF: Sleep Jerusalem (was: Amon Duul 2) Message-ID: _Jerusalem_ is officially out. I've not heard it, but one of my friends has and says its gawd-awful :) So ... mileage may vary! -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Jan 12 19:05:41 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:05:41 +0000 Subject: OFF: Sleep Jerusalem (was: Amon Duul 2) Message-ID: On tis 12 jan 1999 17.22 -0500 "Keith Henderson" wrote: > BTW, Music Cartel seems to be a label focussed mainly on stoner rock, so any > of you stoneheads (?) looking for some new blood might want to check it out > anyway. Please--I prefer the term "Heavy Groove" :) Cheers, Carl ObCD: Cathedral, _Caravan Beyond Redemption_ -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Tue Jan 12 19:41:12 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:41:12 -0500 Subject: HW: Need ID on anonymous HW video Message-ID: I have a video that I can't identify, because it was bootlegged from a legitimate source, but the opening creds were cut off, and the closing creds don't give me enough of a clue as to what it is. The closing credits do say that it was recorded at: Phantasy Theater, Cleveland OH Odd Rock Cafe, Milwaukee WI The Palace, Hollywood CA And that it's (c) 1990 Horizon Films It's about 45 min long, and contains an extended version of The Golden Void (much like the Palace Springs version), featuring some really funky computer rendered animation of alien planetscapes and such. Also, the vid opens with the band setting up in a practice studio, and ends with a post-show party of some sort. Can anybody ID this vid? And better yet, does anybody know a source for a legitimate copy of it? Thanks! Steve swann at plutonia.com From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Tue Jan 12 20:04:41 1999 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:04:41 -0600 Subject: 'The Stoned Age' movie Message-ID: There is a concert clip in The Stoned Age, it was taken from a 1978 European TV special of a 1977 concert filmed at Cobo Arena in Detroit Michigan, a concert from Dec 30 1977 to be exact. I believe they got this footage from Bolle the fan club president. Now that I think about it, they probably borrowed a lot of stuff from the Museum of Cult. Laj. Joseph Brooks wrote: > I do seem to recall a very brief concert clip of the Cult.. Its been a while > though and, as I recall, I wasn't paying close attention to the movie. Can > anyone confirm this? I also missed the cameo after the credits but, I can't > say that I'd want to sit through the movie again just to see it. Though the > blond chick in the T&M shirt was not too hard to take... > > JB > "Whatever you do, take care of your shoes.." -- Phish > "So Ladies, Fish and Gentlemen, here's my angled dream.." -- Blue Oyster > Cult > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Laj Waldner > Sent: Monday, January 11, 1999 7:39 PM > Subject: Re: 'The Stoned Age' movie > > >I kind of liked this movie, I really thought it was a lot better (more fun > >anyway) than Dazed and Confused. Yes that T&M shirt that Lanie wore was > cool, > >wouldn't mind trying out the "Agents of Fortune" theory on her >snicker>. At the end of the movie Buck and Eric make a cameo, when Joe and > Hubbs > >are walking out of the convenience store Buck says "Hey cult jacket" (to > Joe > >because he was wearing that jean jacket with the kronos symbol on the > back), > >Buck and Eric then proceed in trying to sell him some concert shirts for 5 > >bucks. Joe and Hubbs thinking the shirts are bootlegged, proceeded to give > them > >shit for "ripping off the band", as they walk away Eric turns to Buck and > says > >"4 bucks". The cameo is after the credits, and if you have seen the movie > and > >missed this (Like I did the first time I rented it), then you should > definitely > >rent it again, it's pretty amusing to say the least :-). > > > >Laj. > > > > > >Joseph Brooks wrote: > > > >> In "The Stoned Age", BOC makes a *very* brief appearance. One of the main > >> characters is a fan, goes to a BOC show and hallucinates a glowing eye > >> during DFTR (which his friend insists is a "pussy" song), they show BOC > on > >> stage for what, about 3 seconds? Oh and the chick that they're trying to > bag > >> all night in the movie wears a BOC T-shirt. > >> Its all in da FAQ... > >> > >> JB > >> "Whatever you do, take care of your shoes.." -- Phish > >> "So Ladies, Fish and Gentlemen, here's my angled dream.." -- Blue Oyster > >> Cult > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Jonathan Jarrett > >> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 1999 6:25 PM > >> Subject: BOC: 'The Stoned Age' movie > >> > >> > Dear All, > >> > a reference to this on another list came up, a movie > in > >> >which BOC apparently appear? Does anyone know anything about it, and if > it > >> >can be got hold of anywhere? Yours, > >> > Jon > >> >-- > >> > /-----------------------------------------------------------\ > >> > | Jonathan Jarrett Pembroke College | > >> > | jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge | > >> > |-----------------------------------------------------------| > >> > | "If only you believe, then only you will die" (Motorhead) | > >> > \-----------------------------------------------------------/ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Jan 12 20:55:16 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 20:55:16 -0500 Subject: OFF: Sleep Jerusalem (was: Amon Duul 2) In-Reply-To: <2858587.3125172717@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: Carl writes: => _Jerusalem_ is officially out. I've not heard it, but one of => my friends has and says its gawd-awful :) So ... mileage may vary! I have to admit the recent hagiography coming across BOC-L for Sleep has been a tad puzzling for me, since I almost gave up on the stoner genre entirely after buying _Sleep's Holy Mountain_, which I found has little to redeem it, IMHO. (Did I really read the phrase "critically acclaimed" in regard to that album, or was it just a dream [nightmare]?) However, I sincerely hope _Jerusalem_ is as good as it's being made out. Cheers, Paul. NP: Gov't Mule, "War Pigs," 12/31/98 e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From pookadad at DELTANET.COM Wed Jan 13 02:06:29 1999 From: pookadad at DELTANET.COM (Michael Karschner) Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:06:29 -0800 Subject: OFF Drain STH Message-ID: "BREVARD, Adrian R." wrote: > Kewl, just wondered if you had heard any of their stuff. I knew their name, > connected with some of those metal fests but never realized until seeing > them that it was an all ladies band. Now I'm really interested in hearing > them. BTW a beautiful lady is a beautiful lady. I really like Drain, especially live. They've got a heavy sound, and some good lyrics. Their CD "Horror Wrestling" is worth picking up. I'm glad they found a new label to re-release it after their first one went bankrupt. At their shows, they're much like the Brain Surgeons and BOC in that they hang around signing autographs, letting fans take pictures, talking, and generally being nice to their fans. -- Mike From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Jan 13 04:16:09 1999 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:16:09 +0000 Subject: OFF: Sleep Jerusalem (was: Amon Duul 2) In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990112124012.00836a30@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: But best of all was the album, "Volume 1", which was released prior to their Earache deal on Tupelo Records in 1992. An absolute classic. Z NP Sleep - Volume 1! At 12:40 12/01/1999 -0800, you wrote: >Apparently, the 'Jerusalem' track/album was recorded by Sleep some time ago >(right after the Nik tour, I think), and promptly rejected by their label >(Earache). I'd heard that they finally found a label (or just released it >themselves) for it, so I'm eager to hear it! I don't see why it would be a >surprise to hear something that extreme from Sleep, though; after all, >their set opening for Nik consisted of 3 songs, one of which ("Dopesmoker") >ran about 25-30 minutes. And if this sounds enticing, I would also highly >recommend the band Earth, who have had at least a couple albums on Sub Pop. >(and, if you really wanna go out on a limb, some of the UK noise/rock bands >like Skullflower, Ramleh, Total, and even some of the Simon >Wickham-Smith/Richard Youngs stuff like the 'Ceaucescu' LP on Forced >Exposure). > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > >On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:31:08 -0600, Frank Weil wrote: > >>Keith Henderson wrote: >>> P.S. Anyone heard this new Sleep (opened for Nik/Creed Space Ritual tour) >>> album, 'Jerusalem.' I hear it's one 53-minute long track. (?) Seems odd >>> that a sludge/stoner band would do this sort of project...I'm intrigued by >>> what it could be. Anyone?? >> >>I haven't heard it, but I would like to get hold of it. >> >>The only problem was that this album apparently never came out. Is it >>officially out now? > Zeitgeist-Reflections Of The Underground e-zine & freezine Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Wed Jan 13 04:22:18 1999 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (Scott Heller) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:22:18 +0200 Subject: OFF:Sleep Message-ID: Hej, I have had this SLEEP Jeruslem for 1.5 years and it is not what it is cracked up to be. I really liked Some of Vol.1 a lot and Holy Mountain had some really great tacks but I find that Jerusalem starts off and is heavy the whole way thru but they just seem to go back into the same heavy groove and the peice did not really evolve enough for me. Pretty cool but not for everyone.. Scott ObCs- Bevis Frond- Koln 12-18-98! (w/Bari Watts!) R. Scott Heller PhD Hagedorn Research Institute Department of Developmental Biology Niels Steensensvej 6 DK 2820 Gentofte Denmark (45) 44 43 91 37 Phone (45) 44 43 80 00 Fax shll at hagedorn.dk Http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/stage/7713 From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Jan 13 05:37:47 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:37:47 +0000 Subject: OFF/HW/BOC: Sleep & HW & Astronomy, various Message-ID: --On tis 12 jan 1999 20.55 -0500 "Paul Mather" wrote: > Carl writes: > > => _Jerusalem_ is officially out. I've not heard it, but one of > => my friends has and says its gawd-awful :) So ... mileage may vary! > > I have to admit the recent hagiography coming across BOC-L for Sleep has > been a tad puzzling for me, since I almost gave up on the stoner genre > entirely after buying _Sleep's Holy Mountain_, which I found has little > to redeem it, IMHO. (Did I really read the phrase "critically > acclaimed" in regard to that album, or was it just a dream [nightmare]?) There are plenty of "stoner" (awful term) bands I think are damn good. Having heard "Holy Mountain" ... I've heard worse, but I don't think it deserves its rep at all! Still, the *trend* for "stoner" bands has done some definite good. I've convinced a few people from my uni's rock society to check out Hawkwind on the strength of their proto-stoner cred. _Space Ritual_ and _Doremi_ enjoy a fair bit of respect now, as does _1999 party_! HW should clearly pack in the ambient techno effort and reclaim the "kings of the low-end starfield" crown. Actually, a number of the younglings have been into Metallica's "Astronomy" cover, and I've just lent out 4 CDs of BOC as well! > NP: Gov't Mule, "War Pigs," 12/31/98 Damn it! I *need* this. One good thing about going back to the States for sure: get to see Gov't Mule again! Cheers, Carl ObCD: Dark Sun, _Feed Your Mind_ -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Jan 13 05:38:57 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:38:57 +0000 Subject: OFF: Sleep Jerusalem (was: Amon Duul 2) Message-ID: On tis 12 jan 1999 20.55 -0500 "Paul Mather" wrote: > NP: Gov't Mule, "War Pigs," 12/31/98 Damn it! I *need* a copy of this. (One good thing about going back to the States at least--I can see Gov't Mule again) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From c.d.bates at SHU.AC.UK Wed Jan 13 06:04:10 1999 From: c.d.bates at SHU.AC.UK (chris bates) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 06:04:10 -0500 Subject: Live at Reading 1986 / Dumpy Message-ID: > Dumpy Dunnell - the very same. He sprayed lager up my arse live on > stage at Huddersfield Polytechnic you know... (Ah, the bad old days.) > I was listening to Somewhere in England over the Christmas Holiday. I > was drunk. > > Does anyone know if they're still going? (Or Engine, come to that?) I believe that Dumpy is playing Doncaster this week (Friday?). Your mention of Engine takes me back to my student days. Were they any good - or was I very drunk when I saw them? I guess the latter - all I remember is the bass player kept breaking strings!!! -- Chris Bates lecturer school of computing and management sciences sheffield hallam university c.d.bates at shu.ac.uk From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed Jan 13 12:13:27 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:13:27 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind-In Your Area. A quick review. Message-ID: Hi there Here's a quick review. Tracks 1 to 6 (although it's really 4 tracks, as the other 2 are parts of other songs)are live, and tracks 7 to 14 studio. The first track is an excellent, and very heavy live version of Brainstorm, with a really good guitar piece in there. Track 2, Hawkwind In Your Area, is still part of track one, and is the reggae bit they do, with new lyrics by Captain Rizz. Next up is a live version of Alchemy, which is then followed by Love In Space. This version isn't too long, with the majority of the track now dominated by the heavy bit in the middle, which is now Rat Race, similar to the other live versions, but with slightly different lyrics by Captain Rizz. This is followed by a really powerful version of Aerospace-Age Inferno. The first of the studio tracks is First Landing On Medusa. The vocals claim to be Dave Brock, but it sounds like Robert Calvert. Dave has done a very good impersonation here. The track is really good too. Track 8 is I Am The Reptoid, and is based around the middle part of Reptoid Vision, but is a new track in it's own right. Track 9 is The Nazca, a short track, running at less than one minute, and is basically some narration with spacey music effects in the background. Hippy is Track 10, and is destined to become a classic. As the title suggests, it has lots of Eastern sounds about it, in the style of Kashmir, but not a similar sounding track. It's just that it has lots of sitar sounds, etc.. Track 11, Prairie, reminds me of the instrumental tracks by people like Steve Hackett, Mike Oldfield, Steve Howe, etc., and is interesting since we rarely hear this sort of track on a Hawkwind album. Your Fantasy is a new track which has completely reworked Love In Space into a completely different track. There's one or two other familiar bits in there (such as Zarozinia), and is a lyrical track about the band (I believe). Track 13 is Luxotica, and reminds me of the partially ambient tracks by Bill Nelson, with backward-sounding guitars. Track 14, Diana Park, is Hawkwind doing Hawaiian music, but in a very Hawkwind style. This album, in my opinion, is the best they've done since the days of Space Bandits. There's a lot of variety on here, and they haven't stuck themselves into any particular format with the tracks. It is an interesting mix, and has similarities with other part live, part studio albums they have done. Anyway, I always thought the studio tracks on these particular albums to be particularly refreshing. Bye for now William From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jan 13 12:28:21 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:28:21 GMT Subject: Hawkwind-In Your Area. A quick review. In-Reply-To: William Duffy's message of Thu, 14 Jan 1999 01:13:27 +0800 Message-ID: William Duffy writes: > This album, in my opinion, is the best they've done since the days of Space > Bandits. There's a lot of variety on here, and they haven't stuck themselves > into any particular format with the tracks. > > It is an interesting mix, and has similarities with other part live, part > studio albums they have done. Anyway, I always thought the studio tracks on > these particular albums to be particularly refreshing. I want. Now! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Wed Jan 13 12:45:43 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:45:43 +0000 Subject: Fw: Hawkwind Passport update! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 07 Jan 1999 19:16:29 GMT." <000a01be3a72$3abb78c0$713363c3@default> Message-ID: > - Andy > > ObCD: Deniz Tek - _Outside_. Thinking about the DTG gig in Le Havre on the > 29th... Eh ?? Is that the closest he gets to the UK ? Tim Back from Vancouver with 30 CDs :-) NP: Hellacopters: _Disappointment Blues_, including a cover of 455 SD ! From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jan 13 13:09:13 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 18:09:13 -0000 Subject: OFF: Tek in France (was RE: Fw: Hawkwind Passport update!) In-Reply-To: <199901131745.RAA10999@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: > > ObCD: Deniz Tek - _Outside_. Thinking about the DTG gig in Le > Havre on the > > 29th... > > Eh ?? Is that the closest he gets to the UK ? > 'Fraid so. A trip is planned, however... > > NP: Hellacopters: _Disappointment Blues_, including a cover of 455 SD ! Tell me more! - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Jan 13 17:00:41 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:00:41 -0800 Subject: OFF/HW/BOC: Sleep & HW & Astronomy, various Message-ID: Has anyone checked out the UK fanzine 'Bad Acid'? I was sent a promo copy since the last issue had an interview with ST37 (and if anyone knows the editor, you can tell him I WILL send that F/i CD, I promise!), and it does a pretty good job of covering the intersection between "stoner" and "space" rock (a Hawkwind article in the first issue, Farflung interviews in both 1 & 2, lots of coverage of the post-Mike Gunn psychedelic bands in Texas, who are, of course, VERY Black Sabbath-influenced). I gotta admit I'm not real big on stuff like Kyuss or Fu Manchu (especially since those BASTARDS sold out their last SF show, preventing me from seeing the Hellacopters open, who were the only band on the bill I gave a sh!t about!), but I still think that all this spacerock/psych/stoner-metal crossover potential is a very good thing. Anyway, I'd recommend checking out the 'zine if you're in the UK. They're also supposed to put out a Farflung CD sometime soon ... On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:37:47 +0000, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > There are plenty of "stoner" (awful term) bands I think are >damn good. Having heard "Holy Mountain" ... I've heard worse, but >I don't think it deserves its rep at all! Who's your faves? (and for the record, my top Sleep release is the 'Volume 4' fake live 7") > Still, the *trend* for "stoner" bands has done some definite >good. I've convinced a few people from my uni's rock society >to check out Hawkwind on the strength of their proto-stoner >cred. _Space Ritual_ and _Doremi_ enjoy a fair bit of respect >now, as does _1999 party_! HW should clearly pack in the ambient >techno effort and reclaim the "kings of the low-end starfield"crown. The guitarist for "stoner" rockers Noothgrush (with whom Primordial Underming, the space/psych band I'm in share a rehearsal space) is a pretty mean space-rock analog synth (ARP Odyssey, maxi-Korg, etc.) player, too. And although I like most of Hawkwind's ambient/techno stuff a lot, I'd still rather see 'em Kick Out The Jams! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Jan 13 23:32:01 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 23:32:01 -0500 Subject: OFF: Gov't Mule, "War Pigs" + upcoming live album In-Reply-To: <65226.3125212737@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: Carl writes: => On tis 12 jan 1999 20.55 -0500 "Paul Mather" => wrote: => > NP: Gov't Mule, "War Pigs," 12/31/98 => => Damn it! I *need* a copy of this. (One good thing about going => back to the States at least--I can see Gov't Mule again) You'll no doubt be glad to hear then that the entire 5-hour marathon New Year's Eve show in Atlanta was professionally taped on a big recording truck by Capricorn with a view to releasing a live album from it soon. I don't know if they're going to release the *whole show* (including the ~1 hour jam on "Afro Blue" as encore!), or just "highlights," but I wouldn't be at all surprised if "War Pigs" was included as part of it. Apparently, "War Pigs" (played for the first time at NYE) came as a complete surprise, and, it seems, was played without any rehearsal. Near midnight, after noodling on "Dolphineus" until the appropriate time, Warren does a 10..1 countdown to New Year's and then, after a "Happy New Year!" the band launches right into "War Pigs." It's definitely no-frills, but nicely heavy and the crowd went totally ballistic. (There'd been lobbying for over a year by fans to do this song live.) To top it all off, Warren flubs the lines almost as well as Monster Magnet do on "Brainstorm" from _Superjudge_. A classic moment in Mule history! ;-) Cheers, Paul. NP: Black Sabbath, "Wicked World (Live)," _Paranoid_ (original UK CD) e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Jan 14 03:58:58 1999 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:58:58 +0000 Subject: Bad Acid In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990113140041.0083dc00@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: Except that they cashed my cheque and never bothered sending an issue out. So be careful. It's people like that that give the rest of us a bad name. At 14:00 13/01/1999 -0800, you wrote: >Has anyone checked out the UK fanzine 'Bad Acid'? I was sent a promo copy >since the last issue had an interview with ST37 (and if anyone knows the >editor, you can tell him I WILL send that F/i CD, I promise!), and it does >a pretty good job of covering the intersection between "stoner" and "space" >rock (a Hawkwind article in the first issue, Farflung interviews in both 1 >& 2, lots of coverage of the post-Mike Gunn psychedelic bands in Texas, who >are, of course, VERY Black Sabbath-influenced). I gotta admit I'm not real >big on stuff like Kyuss or Fu Manchu (especially since those BASTARDS sold >out their last SF show, preventing me from seeing the Hellacopters open, >who were the only band on the bill I gave a sh!t about!), but I still think >that all this spacerock/psych/stoner-metal crossover potential is a very >good thing. > >Anyway, I'd recommend checking out the 'zine if you're in the UK. They're >also supposed to put out a Farflung CD sometime soon ... > >On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:37:47 +0000, Carl Edlund Anderson > wrote: >> There are plenty of "stoner" (awful term) bands I think are >>damn good. Having heard "Holy Mountain" ... I've heard worse, but >>I don't think it deserves its rep at all! > >Who's your faves? (and for the record, my top Sleep release is the 'Volume >4' fake live 7") > >> Still, the *trend* for "stoner" bands has done some definite >>good. I've convinced a few people from my uni's rock society >>to check out Hawkwind on the strength of their proto-stoner >>cred. _Space Ritual_ and _Doremi_ enjoy a fair bit of respect >>now, as does _1999 party_! HW should clearly pack in the ambient >>techno effort and reclaim the "kings of the low-end starfield"crown. > >The guitarist for "stoner" rockers Noothgrush (with whom Primordial >Underming, the space/psych band I'm in share a rehearsal space) is a pretty >mean space-rock analog synth (ARP Odyssey, maxi-Korg, etc.) player, too. >And although I like most of Hawkwind's ambient/techno stuff a lot, I'd >still rather see 'em Kick Out The Jams! > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > Zeitgeist-Reflections Of The Underground e-zine & freezine Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Wed Jan 13 23:38:51 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 04:38:51 +0000 Subject: OFF: Motorhead KBFH Message-ID: Hey, Does anybody have the Motorhead King Biscuit CD? If so, how is it? I was going to buy it myself, but it didn't look that great. However, a friend from another state e-mailed me yesterday and said he found it used, picked it up and would send it to me. Since I'm getting it free I'm not all that concerned how good it is, but I was kinda wondering... -- Nick From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Jan 14 04:40:43 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:40:43 +0000 Subject: OFF: Gov't Mule, "War Pigs" + upcoming live album Message-ID: On ons 13 jan 1999 23.32 -0500 "Paul Mather" wrote: > Warren does a 10..1 countdown to New Year's and then, after a > "Happy New Year!" the band launches right into "War Pigs." > To top it all off, Warren flubs the lines almost as well as > Monster Magnet do on "Brainstorm" from _Superjudge_. A classic moment > in Mule history! ;-) :) I have a tape of what I believe is their first attempt to play "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)" without prior rehersal and Warren definitely mangles those lyrics pretty impressively :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Jan 14 05:07:52 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:07:52 +0000 Subject: HW: Sleep & HW & various Message-ID: On ons 13 jan 1999 14.00 -0800 "Doug Pearson" wrote: > Has anyone checked out the UK fanzine 'Bad Acid'? Yeah, someone I know got a copy. It wasn't too bad, though reviews were fantastically opinionated--and therefore quite amusing to read :) I was familiar with a number of the bands being reviewed, and only disagreed with about half the relevant reviews though ;) > On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:37:47 +0000, Carl Edlund Anderson > wrote: >> There are plenty of "stoner" (awful term) bands I think are >>damn good. Having heard "Holy Mountain" ... I've heard worse, but >>I don't think it deserves its rep at all! > > Who's your faves? (and for the record, my top Sleep release is the 'Volume > 4' fake live 7") My top Sleep? Couldn't say really. The only Sleep I've heard in the last several years is _Holy Mountain_. I don't remember their earlier stuff terribly well, and I've not heard the new _Jerusalem_ (so to speak ;) Of bands lumped into the genre I think the Spiritual Beggars have to be my fave. I've seen them twice, once with Orange Goblin (good band!) on first and Fu Manchu (first UK appearance of the reconstituted line-up) headlinging, and not surprisingly Fu Manchu were very pro but the Spiritual Beggars blew everyone away. The inevitable Sabbath comparisons get made, but they don't sound anything like Sabbath to me. More like early Monster Magnet meets Gov't Mule. Heavy groove boogie. There's a track on their latest album which reminds me much of something from _ISOS_ era Hawkwind but heavier. Even a few swooshy noises thrown in. My other recent surprise discoveries would have to be Dark Sun (whose new album I look forward to tremendously)--a very polished, catchy kind of space-rock--and the Spacious Mind who sounds IMO like ISOS/1st album era Hawkwind just jamming wildly. I'm usually not a big fan of really loose unstructured stuff, but these guys really make it work. Very spontaneous and you get the feeling they are really creating something right in front of you (seeing them live, anyway). > The guitarist for "stoner" rockers Noothgrush (with whom Primordial > Underming, the space/psych band I'm in share a rehearsal space) is a pretty > mean space-rock analog synth (ARP Odyssey, maxi-Korg, etc.) player, too. > And although I like most of Hawkwind's ambient/techno stuff a lot, I'd > still rather see 'em Kick Out The Jams! Well, Hawkwind have done some good floaty ambient stuff. It seems to dominate more now--or perhaps the rocky stuff isn't as as rocky in comparison. This decade, I think they hit on a particularly good formula around 92-93--ironically, as the 3-piece-- playing really in-your-face space-rock, Brock really wailing on guitar, and then slipping floaty ambient bits in as light to the shade. The enormous intro > Out of the Shadows > Snake Dance > whatever medleys they had going were great. They didn't even need any sequencers and stuff to produced a perfect space rock sound, they could pretty much do it as the three-piece alone! If Alan Davey gets a really heavy-sounding Bedouin album out, he could do worse than send it to Kerrapp! There are a few people there who seem to have their hearts in the right place, and Bedouin's live gigs certainly ought to appeal to the segment of Kerrapp!'s readership that are eating up the post-Kyuss bands. Heck maybe even HW could pull that off, but its been so long since they've played, who knows what they sound like? It always seems to change :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Jan 14 06:02:08 1999 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:02:08 +0000 Subject: OFF: Motorhead KBFH In-Reply-To: <199901141041.FAA02112@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: It's good enough. The usual shabby KBFH packaging doesn't help, but overall it's about 6/10. Z At 04:38 14/01/1999 +0000, you wrote: >Hey, > >Does anybody have the Motorhead King Biscuit CD? If so, how is it? I >was going to buy it myself, but it didn't look that great. However, a >friend from another state e-mailed me yesterday and said he found it >used, picked it up and would send it to me. > >Since I'm getting it free I'm not all that concerned how good it is, >but I was kinda wondering... > >-- Nick > Zeitgeist-Reflections Of The Underground e-zine & freezine Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK Thu Jan 14 06:09:00 1999 From: edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:09:00 GMT Subject: HW: Sleep & HW & vari Message-ID: From: Mark Edmonds Date: 1999-01-14 11:09 Carl Edlund Anderson writes: >If Alan Davey gets a really heavy-sounding Bedouin album >out, he could do worse than send it to >Kerrapp! ^^^^^^^ Ha! Love that magazine name! Nice one! (I didn't even know it was still being published and I'll shamefully admit that I did read it once every blue moon.) Mark From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Thu Jan 14 07:06:47 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:06:47 +0000 Subject: last night's evening session on radio1 Message-ID: This is a long shot but anyway. Were any of the Yookayans on the list listening to Lamacq's evening session on radio 1 last night? I was in my car at about 8.55 pm and there a rockin' heavy tune I caught the end of, even vaguely HWd-ish. I thought he said the band name was Dark Star and the song was possibly _I am the Sun_. It was right before the Delakotas song. I'm pretty sure he said Dark Star, as opposed to DarXtar, and I'd be surprised / amazed if the latter was played on radio1. Any info on the tune I heard appreciated. Tim ObCD: Hymns of the Worlock: tribute to Skinny Puppy From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Jan 14 08:32:25 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:32:25 +0000 Subject: HW: Sleep & HW & vari Message-ID: On tor 14 jan 1999 11.09 +0000 "Mark Edmonds" wrote: >>Kerrapp! > ^^^^^^^ > Ha! Love that magazine name! Nice one! (I didn't even know it was still > being published and I'll shamefully admit that I did read it once every blue > moon.) I certainly didn't invent it :) But they are rather lame! Actually, like I said, there are a few people on their staff who seem to be cool, and occasionally give a good review to something (relatively) obscure that they probably didn't get bribed to do. I used to pick it up every month or so and read it with my afternoon coffee--but the local grocery store stopped carrying it :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Jan 14 08:33:17 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:33:17 +0000 Subject: last night's evening session on radio1 Message-ID: On tor 14 jan 1999 12.06 +0000 bart wrote: > I'm pretty sure he said Dark Star, as opposed to DarXtar, and I'd be surprised > / amazed if the latter was played on radio1. Any info on the tune I heard > appreciated. I think there is some German band called Dark Star ... I think I've seen them mentioned in Freakbeat's catalogues. -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Jan 14 11:35:28 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:35:28 -0500 Subject: OFF: Motorhead KBFH In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990114110208.007a3300@pop.dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Zeitgeist wrote: => It's good enough. The usual shabby KBFH packaging doesn't help, but overall => it's about 6/10. Also, be warned that despite the King Biscuit Flower *HOUR* name, there's only actually about 30 minutes of music on the disc (drawn almost solely from the _Another Perfect Day_ album). The rest is a ~20 minute interview with Lemmy. I haven't listened to it properly yet, since I only bought mine used very recently, but what I've heard is nice enough. Cheers, Paul. NP: Mot?rhead, _King Biscuit Flower Hour_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Jan 14 13:21:44 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:21:44 +0000 Subject: last night's evening session on radio1 In-Reply-To: <199901141206.MAA15469@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: In article <199901141206.MAA15469 at aeolians.bt.co.uk>, bart writes >This is a long shot but anyway. Were any of the Yookayans on the list listening >to Lamacq's evening session on radio 1 last night? I was in my car at about >8.55 pm and there a rockin' heavy tune I caught the end of, even vaguely >HWd-ish. I thought he said the band name was Dark Star and the song was >possibly _I am the Sun_. It was right before the Delakotas song. What Delakota song was it? That's my kid brother. He's got about 10 HW discs in his collection, so much for your post-Beck Hip-hop country-scratch-crossover. ObContent. He's touring with UNKLE at the moment, who "sound like bloody Hawkwind" (Time Out) and I want my In Your Area. :( -- Jon From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jan 14 17:40:20 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:40:20 -0500 Subject: HW: In My Area!! Message-ID: Hi Folks... "In Your Area" has just become "In My Area," in fact, it's playing right as I type. I'm only up to "Hippy" (track 10), but it's pretty good so far. The live material (NOT recorded at SD'97 as I had assumed, but rather from Belgium) is fine (AerospaceAge Inferno the piece that makes it worthwhile), but not too dissimilar from what we've all heard either in person or on Love in Space etc. (The Alchemy riff is a real winner also.) So far, the new studio tracks are pretty neat as well. I haven't figured out the track indexing yet, so I can't be sure of what's what. I'll try to sort it all out by tomorrow and maybe post something more informative (though that's already been done once). The booklet is very nice...lots of colourful artwork and lyrics! Done by Rob Godwin himself, so he obviously put some time and effort into the project, as it represents the re-emergence of the once great (and soon to be again!) Griffin label. OK, well, you'll all hear it soon enough, but let me be the first to transcribe some of the lyrics (copied directly from the booklet), so that the appropriate personnel can add it into the Codex... Oh, and BTW, in the same order that arrived today, I had gotten a CD copy of The Heads' "The Time is Now," and weird thing!! They put two discs in the jewel case..I'm assuming some machinery got stuck and gave me a free bonus. Cool!! So who wants to trade for a copy? You won't get a booklet, but I'll make a B&W Xerox for you. OK, back to HW. These of course need to be confirmed as actually what appears on the album (I haven't even begun to check), and there may be more there that isn't in the booklet. (And there's a little bit of lyrics (?) printed in the booklet for something called Eedeakaran, which I recognise as being a bizarre way of spelling Ediacaran, which is a famous geological formation that contains some of the earliest metazoan fossils. The lyrics suggest the same. But anyway, there's no song with that title, or even anything similar. But they might appear somewhere.) It's A Rat Race (Brock/Rizz) Open up your eyes It's time to realise You're not the rat race You're the human race (repeat) Everybody wants to live up on Mars, but you can't even live in your own universe So open up your eyes It's time to realise You're not the rat race You're the human race So leave the rat race and join the human race if you want love in space then join the human race and leave the rat race I am the reptoid (Tree/Brock/Richards/Chadwick) I am the reptoid I suggest things in your sleep Infiltrate your dreams I am the reptoid Tele-endoscopic eye into your brain I see how you feel I know why you exist I am the reptoid My scale is wet, my blood is cold My claws invicerate the human bane By the sewer-cide drain I am the reptoid Thermetically (sic) sealed The bastard seed of an alien breed Pneumatically released into your microcosm Hey little boy, hey little girl, hey Mum & Dad, hey Uncle Sam I am the reptoid Hawkwind In Your Area (Brock/Rizz) I spy flying through the sky Flying on a Rizz ship Connected on a Hawkwind tip Switching on your computers with your super booster Don't let technology rule your life Satellites watching the aliens beam you up Send you back a message in a bug You just can't believe it when you unveil it Telling you to jump up and shout Jump up and down and swing yourself around Hawkwind in your area, Hawkwind on your land So jump up and down and swing yourself around Hawkwind in your area, Hawkwind on your land Don't let them rule you, Don't let them school you You can rule your own self, you can rule your own mind So jump up and down and swing yourself around Hawkwind in your area, Hawkwind on your land The Nazca (Brock) Intelligent life is so rare the rarest thing in creation and the most precious It is the only thing that gives meaning to the universe without it nothing begins and nothing ends Hippy (Richards/Tree/Chadwick) Hokmah the wisdom, Beenah understands Tipharks beautiful, Malkut the kingdom Malkut is a sun-king of creation, Malkut is the one burning through the sun shining World of lies from which we rise Break the chain, end the pain Space and time, human kind Water combined the elemental mind. Space, Time, Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Earth, Air, Fire, Water, Earth Manifestation, manifest, elevate, animate, generation, generate, elevate, procreation Manifestation, elevation, animation, creation, air-origination, fire-creation, water-formation, earth immortalised. Your Fantasy (Richards/Tree/Chadwick/Brock/Rizz) Have you seen the magic things you read about in books? Leprechauns, Goblins, Captains with hooks Dupe Obeah and wizards round the fire Witches in the wood fetching herbs for your desire Pleasure - fantasy - desire 21st century and the legends live on Come alive in the dark And they walk in the shade Fear no man, no race, no creed The Hawklords are flying Through the galaxies for your Pleasure - fantasy - desire And the legends live on for your Pleasure - fantasy - desire Trip - trip - trip - trip From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Jan 14 18:41:39 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 23:41:39 +0000 Subject: OFF: Amon Duul 2 In-Reply-To: <199901122018.PAA07293@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 12 Jan 1999, Keith Henderson wrote: > P.S. Anyone heard this new Sleep (opened for Nik/Creed Space Ritual tour) > album, 'Jerusalem.' I hear it's one 53-minute long track. (?) Seems odd > that a sludge/stoner band would do this sort of project...I'm intrigued by > what it could be. Anyone?? Another list I'm on are comparing very much to Electric Wizard's 'Supercoven', but it's more doomy and less groovy, if that's any help. Anyone know anything about a band called Young Team? I just got a recommendation of their new album but given the guy's 'space-rock' bands he named in comparison I'm in serious doubt that he knows anything... Yours, Jon /_______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 338100) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "`It's a Venusian space bassist,' said Turner the bird being." | | (Hawkwind, sleeve notes to 'Doremi Fasol Latido') | \_______________________________________________________________________/ From jandl at ENTER.NET Thu Jan 14 19:40:13 1999 From: jandl at ENTER.NET (John & Lynn) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:40:13 -0500 Subject: Hawklords Message-ID: Hi need 25 years on by hawklords (hawkwind) on cd.. any help is desired...thank you , JESSE From corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET Thu Jan 14 21:01:08 1999 From: corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:01:08 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind-In Your Area. A quick review. Message-ID: Ok where are these showing up? In stores. over mail order? Mike William Duffy wrote: > Hi there > > Here's a quick review. > > Tracks 1 to 6 (although it's really 4 tracks, as the other 2 are parts of > other songs)are live, and tracks 7 to 14 studio. > > The first track is an excellent, and very heavy live version of Brainstorm, > with a really good guitar piece in there. Track 2, Hawkwind In Your Area, is > still part of track one, and is the reggae bit they do, with new lyrics by > Captain Rizz. > Next up is a live version of Alchemy, which is then followed by Love In > Space. This version isn't too long, with the majority of the track now > dominated by the heavy bit in the middle, which is now Rat Race, similar to > the other live versions, but with slightly different lyrics by Captain Rizz. > This is followed by a really powerful version of Aerospace-Age > Inferno. > The first of the studio tracks is First Landing On Medusa. The vocals claim > to be Dave Brock, but it sounds like Robert Calvert. Dave has done a very > good impersonation here. The track is really good too. > > Track 8 is I Am The Reptoid, and is based around the middle part of Reptoid > Vision, but is a new track in it's own right. > > Track 9 is The Nazca, a short track, running at less than one minute, and is > basically some narration with spacey music effects in the background. > > Hippy is Track 10, and is destined to become a classic. As the title > suggests, it has lots of Eastern sounds about it, in the style of Kashmir, > but not a similar sounding track. It's just that it has lots of sitar > sounds, etc.. > > Track 11, Prairie, reminds me of the instrumental tracks by people like > Steve Hackett, Mike Oldfield, Steve Howe, etc., and is interesting since we > rarely hear this sort of track on a Hawkwind album. > > Your Fantasy is a new track which has completely reworked Love In Space into > a completely different track. There's one or two other familiar bits in > there (such as Zarozinia), and is a lyrical track about the band (I > believe). > > Track 13 is Luxotica, and reminds me of the partially ambient tracks by Bill > Nelson, with backward-sounding guitars. > > Track 14, Diana Park, is Hawkwind doing Hawaiian music, but in a very > Hawkwind style. > > This album, in my opinion, is the best they've done since the days of Space > Bandits. There's a lot of variety on here, and they haven't stuck themselves > into any particular format with the tracks. > > It is an interesting mix, and has similarities with other part live, part > studio albums they have done. Anyway, I always thought the studio tracks on > these particular albums to be particularly refreshing. > > Bye for now > William From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jan 14 21:18:20 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:18:20 -0500 Subject: HW: In Your Area Message-ID: Mike asks... >Ok where are these showing up? In stores. over mail order? Mail order, of course. Griffin never did manage to get their stuff well-distributed to these parts (at least until they liquidated their stock upon bankruptcy, then it appeared much more regularly...ironic, huh?...though in cut-out bins). Hopefully, that'll change. Cleopatra does much better in that respect, though their product line is a little more uneven (i.e., a dodgy release here and there). But anyway, there are several places that have In Your Area on-line, including CDNow. I got mine from www.cdcellar.com in California, which had the best price that I could find, and amazingly quick delivery as I've discovered. Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Those in London (or nearby) should look for announcements of concerts by old 70's krautrockers Guru Guru and Birth Control, who are supposed to be headed your way in the near future. My guess is the Astoria, based on other groups who've played there in recent years. From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu Jan 14 21:30:40 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:30:40 EST Subject: New Chrome 2-CD Message-ID: Out now on Cleopatra is a 2-cd set titled: Crome Flashback/Chrome Live It includes on 1st disc a great compilation of early classic tracks. the live disc is from the spring 98 tour. this is very much worth getting. bob http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From stretch at GOT.NET Fri Jan 15 03:33:52 1999 From: stretch at GOT.NET (Jeff Riedle) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:33:52 -0800 Subject: HW: In Your Area Message-ID: I've been lurking for quite awhile, been too busy this past year running my own business to respond to you, but now it's time to get back in to it...I may not have the lowest price in the world but I can get you copies of the cd "In Your Area" because I own a store in California (USA) that sells new & used records, cd's, and tapes. It's between $12.98 and $14.98 [I'm at home now and can't remember the exact price!] plus California sales tax of 8-1/4% plus mailing costs to whatever country you are in. I'm the little independent shop, not the big rich corporation, so any business is appreciated. If interested e-mail me and I'll look into more accurate prices. I would take US dollars cash or most credit cards as payment. For the record, I was even in a band that opened for Hawkwind when they toured the US in 1989. The gig date was October 9th!! Jeff P.S. Hey Jill, do you remember me? From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Jan 15 04:39:33 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:39:33 +0000 Subject: OFF: US > UK mail-order Message-ID: What are the mail order places with the best deals when ordering CDs from the US to the UK? I've been doing my utmost to convince people I know to expand their musical horizons and it would be helpful if I could pass along info on the most cost effective transatlantic CD-ordering :) I've never done it myself, since when I get things from the US, I just have them sent to Tania :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Fri Jan 15 05:56:45 1999 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 05:56:45 -0500 Subject: HW: In Your Area Message-ID: I remember you Jeff. I think I bought Undisclosed Files, or Addendum to same from you. Welcome back, Rj -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Riedle To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Friday, January 15, 1999 3:47 AM Subject: Re: HW: In Your Area >I've been lurking for quite awhile, been too busy this past year running my >own business to respond to you, but now it's time to get back in to it...I >may not have the lowest price in the world but I can get you copies of the >cd "In Your Area" because I own a store in California (USA) that sells new & >used records, cd's, and tapes. It's between $12.98 and $14.98 [I'm at home >now and can't remember the exact price!] plus California sales tax of 8-1/4% >plus mailing costs to whatever country you are in. I'm the little >independent shop, not the big rich corporation, so any business is >appreciated. If interested e-mail me and I'll look into more accurate >prices. I would take US dollars cash or most credit cards as payment. >For the record, I was even in a band that opened for Hawkwind when they >toured the US in 1989. The gig date was October 9th!! > >Jeff > >P.S. Hey Jill, do you remember me? From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jan 15 06:12:32 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:12:32 +0000 Subject: OFF: Amon Duul 2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 23:41 14/01/99 +0000, you wrote: > Another list I'm on are comparing very much to Electric Wizard's >'Supercoven', but it's more doomy and less groovy, if that's any help. what's that like? i've got their first which is feckin great but havent heard aything else by 'em. oh yeah, orange goblin are comin here at the end of the month supporting cathedral. now sure, of course i'm off to see the goblin ones, but know nothing of cathedral, anyone know anything of them? andrew ObLP: Big Hits - Iron Bong From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Jan 15 06:30:42 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:30:42 +0000 Subject: OFF: Cathedral Message-ID: On fre 15 jan 1999 11.12 +0000 andrew wrote: > oh yeah, orange goblin are comin here at the end of the month supporting > cathedral. now sure, of course i'm off to see the goblin ones, but know > nothing of cathedral, anyone know anything of them? Yer basic 3-piece plus singer, unashamedly 70s Sabbathoid riffing, and walk a wobbly line between self-conscious epic rock pomposity and self-conscious cheeeez extravaganza. Singer is ex-Napalm Death, so the vocals are on the grindy side, but he's singing cleaner than ever before, I think. The guitarist is very good and delivers some first-rate riffs (and has a _marvelous_ tone), while the singer is a superb frontman. Rhythm section is pretty damn solid. It took a while before the current line-up stabilized, but they've done three albums together now, IMO easily Cathedral's best work (though of course, many like their older, slow death/doom approach and complain they've "sold out" now :) I saw them once before when I was not terribly taken with the studio recordings, but was _deeply_ impressed with the live performance. I've a friend who says Cathedral have _sucked_ whenever he's seen them as support, but have _rocked_ whenever he's seen them headline ... so it should be all right :) Combination with Orange Goblin should be an ideal gig, for both, really. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jan 15 06:51:34 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:51:34 +0000 Subject: OFF: Cathedral In-Reply-To: <452203.3125388642@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: cheers! At 11:30 15/01/99 +0000, you wrote: > Yer basic 3-piece plus singer, unashamedly 70s Sabbathoid riffing, >and walk a wobbly line between self-conscious epic rock pomposity >and self-conscious cheeeez extravaganza. now this is the way to sell a gig to me... >he's seen them headline ... so it should be all right :) > > Combination with Orange Goblin should be an ideal gig, >for both, really. i'll let you all know how it goes (dmittedly its a fortnight from now, but hey this is derby; we take our entertainment where we can find it: next week, dr hasbeen) andrew andrew andrew at deluminate.freeserve.co.uk From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Jan 15 07:01:13 1999 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:01:13 -0000 Subject: OOF? - MANN Message-ID: There's six Man albums being reissued on Eagle mid price on 25 January; Live At The Rainbow 1972 Do You Like It Here Now, Are You Settling In? Live In London 1975 Welsh Connection To Live For To Die all with the usual remastering etc, but no extra tracks. However, there's also an album called Greasy Truckers Party being issued. Does this just contain the Man trackss or...? Z NP ABBFINOOSTY - Future Zeitgeist e-zine & freezine PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Jan 15 07:10:17 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:10:17 +0000 Subject: OFF: Cathedral Message-ID: On fre 15 jan 1999 11.51 +0000 andrew wrote: > At 11:30 15/01/99 +0000, you wrote: >> Yer basic 3-piece plus singer, unashamedly 70s Sabbathoid riffing, >>and walk a wobbly line between self-conscious epic rock pomposity >>and self-conscious cheeeez extravaganza. > > now this is the way to sell a gig to me... As they say: oooooooooooh ye-ah (baby ...)! Hyperbrief commentary on my fave Cathedral discs: The Carnival Bizarre: Contains arguably their catchiest piece "Hopkins (The Witchfinder General)" with numerous samples taken from the Hammer Horror film (the actual lyrics are very Hammeresque but have nothing to do with the film :) First half of the album is quite strong, the second half less so, though not bad. One song has drifts into the Moby Dick riff for the outro :) "Hopkins" CDEP: Contains a cover of "Fire" with a horn section (!) and an sprawling funk/jazz/blues/metal cheezefest which manages to simultaneous rip-off blaxploitation themes and Sabbath. Hysterical. Supernatural Birth Machine: none of the songs reach the heights of "Hopkins", but overall a stronger album, IMO. Planet of the Apes based "Urko's Conquest" is quite good, as is the title track and the ridiculous "Fireball Demon". Caravan Beyond Redemption: Out the end of this month. I've not formed a full impression yet, but I think they've gotten a bit more melodic. Similar to SBM, with generally strong songs. "Voodoo Fire" is outrageous, as in the R&B/funk doom of "Freedom". "Earth Messiah" verges on space-rock (either the drummer or the bassist is a Hawkwind fan, I forget which), but I think my favorite has to be "The Unnatural World". There is another Hammer-based song, "Captain Clegg", which is exceedingly weird. I'm interested to see how the live versions affect me! > i'll let you all know how it goes (dmittedly its a fortnight from now, but > hey this is derby; we take our entertainment where we can find it: next > week, dr hasbeen) Hey, yer better off than in Cambridge! I've not seen Dr. Hasbeen yet :/ Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Jan 15 07:18:38 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 12:18:38 -0000 Subject: OOF? - MANN In-Reply-To: <199901151201.HAA11165@mailgate.spc.edu> Message-ID: > There's six Man albums being reissued on Eagle mid price on 25 January; > Live At The Rainbow 1972 > Do You Like It Here Now, Are You Settling In? > Live In London 1975 > Welsh Connection > To Live For To Die > all with the usual remastering etc, but no extra tracks. However, there's > also an album called Greasy Truckers Party being issued. Does this just > contain the Man trackss or...? If those are the same ones that they had on sale at the 30th Anniversary show, which they almost certainly are, then the GTP is just the Man tracks. Sorry. Dead good "Spunk Rock" though! - Andy ObCD: Amon D??l II - _Live in London_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK Fri Jan 15 05:21:00 1999 From: edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:21:00 GMT Subject: OFF: US > UK mail-ord Message-ID: From: Mark Edmonds Date: 1999-01-15 10:21 >Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > What are the mail order places with the best deals when >ordering CDs from the US to the UK? I've been doing my utmost >to convince people I know to expand their musical horizons >and it would be helpful if I could pass along info on the most >cost effective transatlantic CD-ordering :) I've never done it >myself, since when I get things from the US, I just have them sent >to Tania :) So far, I have found the best prices at CD Universe (http://cdu2.cduniverse.com) and have a 6CD Miles Davis set on order with them. Their web site enables you to keep a track of the order status and the postage prices are not as extortionate as some I have come across. The irritating thing is knowing that the discs have been sent off and having to wait around for Postman Prat to get his act together. Mark From edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK Fri Jan 15 08:09:00 1999 From: edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:09:00 GMT Subject: HW: In Your Area Message-ID: From: Mark Edmonds Date: 1999-01-15 13:09 Please can someone scan the cover for us to see? I must admit I find it extremely galling to know that a Hawkwind album has been released in the States ahead of good ol' blighty! Mark From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jan 15 08:36:00 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:36:00 +0000 Subject: OFF: Cathedral In-Reply-To: <595045.3125391017@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 12:10 15/01/99 +0000, you wrote: >"Hopkins" CDEP: Contains a cover of "Fire" with a horn section (!) >and an sprawling funk/jazz/blues/metal cheezefest which manages >to simultaneous rip-off blaxploitation themes and Sabbath. Hysterical. oh cheers carl, here i was thinking, 'right, i'll have to stop buying vinyl/shiny discs until the end of the month,' and you bring news from the east of a sabs/blaxploitation crossover, d'oh! :) Oh and the song 'Freedom' that they do: no relation to the one that Praise Space Electric covers (its credited to a Richie Havens but this rings no bells with me) > Hey, yer better off than in Cambridge! I've not seen >Dr. Hasbeen yet :/ me neither, anyone else out there seen them? (i'm also trying to work out selling a hawkwind covers band to my jazz and classical loving best mates...) andrew andrew andrew at deluminate.freeserve.co.uk From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Jan 15 08:47:37 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:47:37 +0000 Subject: OFF: Cathedral Message-ID: On fre 15 jan 1999 13.36 +0000 andrew wrote: > Oh and the song 'Freedom' > that they do: no relation to the one that Praise Space Electric covers (its > credited to a Richie Havens but this rings no bells with me) Writing creds don't seem to be listed, but I don't think so. Unless the Richie Havens song contains the words "It's just a bummer if facists rule!" :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jan 15 09:34:35 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:34:35 +0000 Subject: OFF: Cathedral but heading HWards In-Reply-To: <946241.3125396857@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 13:47 15/01/99 +0000, you wrote: >Unless the Richie Havens song contains the words "It's just a bummer >if facists rule!" :) heheheheheh and you never even mentioned the lyrical magnificence! ObHW: I know its old news by nowbut what did people think of Distant Horizons? To me, it was where all the ideas on Alien 4 started to work (ie: xenomorph IMO nearly works, whereas Phetamine Street really kicks (ass/butt/out the JAMS/etc)). But i wish someone would sort out the lyrics; whilst i too am slavering for in your area, the transcribed lyrics don't really set me on fire, sure the sentiment's there but what of invention? maybe its unfair to compare anyone with robert calvert's with all of his wordsmithery still sounding so fresh (and much of the baron's stuff for that matter) i think that it is perhaps okay for me to expect a bit more from the hawks... enough already! andrew andrew at deluminate.freeserve.co.uk From micci at SCI.FI Fri Jan 15 10:03:57 1999 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:03:57 +0200 Subject: HW:calvert Message-ID: Hi! I have two Calvert?s live tapes, but I don?t know where these are recorded. Can somebody help? Gigs are: Robert Calvert & The Starfighters 1987 "Rhino gig" Robert Calvert and the Krankshaft 28/5/1986 obcd:Dr.Hasbeen- Spirit of the Brock Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Jan 15 10:39:47 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:39:47 +0000 Subject: HW: IYA and DH Message-ID: On fre 15 jan 1999 14.34 +0000 andrew wrote: > ObHW: I know its old news by nowbut what did people think of Distant > Horizons? To me, it was where all the ideas on Alien 4 started to work (ie: > xenomorph IMO nearly works, whereas Phetamine Street really kicks > (ass/butt/out the JAMS/etc)). But i wish someone would sort out the lyrics; > whilst i too am slavering for in your area, the transcribed lyrics don't > really set me on fire, sure the sentiment's there but what of invention? > maybe its unfair to compare anyone with robert calvert's with all of his > wordsmithery still sounding so fresh (and much of the baron's stuff for > that matter) i think that it is perhaps okay for me to expect a bit more > from the hawks... I've not heard IYA, of course, but I did think the posted lyrics were a bit dodgy. Yet while I agree that there were a few good tracks on DH--Phetamine Street, Alchemy, Reptoid Vison--I think A4 was, on the whole, a stronger album. IMO, "Alien (I Am)" for example was as strong a Brock track as any! His output on DH was less spirited. Calvert's lyrics entirely aside, Brock wrote some great songs on his own and still does--he seems to do it less frequently these days, though. It looks to me like much of the lyrics on the new album are Rizzoid in origin, though--I know others like his input, but he's not done much for me, I must say. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jan 15 11:19:54 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:19:54 +0000 Subject: HW: IYA and DH In-Reply-To: <1351021.3125403587@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: >on DH--Phetamine Street, Alchemy, Reptoid Vison--I think A4 was, on >the whole, a stronger album. IMO, "Alien (I Am)" for example was as I wasn't saying it wasn't great - no sirree bob! - i think i was just expecting too much of it at the time. Having been earthbound for a while, the hawks were finally returning to space! But instead of the new X in search of... i got A4. Having said that, in retrospect i know time marches on etc and listening to it again (as i am as i type) it is pretty effin cool. >strong a Brock track as any! His output on DH was less spirited. >Calvert's lyrics entirely aside, Brock wrote some great songs on >his own and still does--he seems to do it less frequently these >days, though. oh yeah, (or following all that neo-sabster chat should that be OH YEEEEeeeAH!) there's no knocking the brockster; i made a comp tape of punk/space/psych stuff for a friend and slipped in 25 Years which i think is a really great space punk song (admittedly the few who listen to my theories find this pushings a bit far) and my mate absolutely loved it and she has begun to desist in her hawk-scepticism ... haha! a convert! seeya > > It looks to me like much of the lyrics on the new album >are Rizzoid in origin, though--I know others like his input, >but he's not done much for me, I must say. > >Cheers, >Carl > >-- >Carl Edlund Anderson >Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic >St. John's College, University of Cambridge >mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk >http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ > > andrew andrew at deluminate.freeserve.co.uk From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jan 15 14:37:14 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:37:14 -0000 Subject: HW:calvert Message-ID: Hi, Not sure about the Krankshaft gig but the Starfighters gig sounds like it was the Big Black Rhino Bash ( a save the rhino benefit) which was at the Town & Country Club, Kentish Town (now the Forum) This was 30th May '88 not '87 though. This was quite a gig. The line featured the Ozrics, Bob Calvert, Nik Turner, Man, Here & Now, some sort of Pink Fairiesvariant or spin-off (Larry Wallis & the Love Pirates of Doom, I remember correctly), Dr & the Medics and, of course, Hawkwind. Bob didn't guest with the Hawks as his spot was mid-afternoon and he had another gig that evening, neither did Turner. However Lemmy joined the band for the encore, pumping out Master of the Universe in classic fashion. Bob's version of Sonic Attack easily outshone the Hawks version (which had mutated into Rhino Attack!!). A top atmosphere and dazzling lasers made this one of my favourite Hawk gigs. Nick -----Original Message----- From: Miikka Wagner To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 15 January 1999 15:12 Subject: HW:calvert Hi! I have two Calvert?s live tapes, but I don?t know where these are recorded. Can somebody help? Gigs are: Robert Calvert & The Starfighters 1987 "Rhino gig" Robert Calvert and the Krankshaft 28/5/1986 obcd:Dr.Hasbeen- Spirit of the Brock Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From iplug at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Jan 15 18:29:36 1999 From: iplug at HOTMAIL.COM (Joseph Brooks) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:29:36 -0800 Subject: With apologies... Message-ID: Now if someone would just ask about moe. and CD-R, this list will over-load, self-combust and solve everyone's problem by ceasing to exist. See this ---> :) JB "Whatever you do, take care of your shoes.." -- Phish "So Ladies, Fish and Gentlemen, here's my angled dream.." -- Blue Oyster Cult -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Fri Jan 15 21:22:56 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 21:22:56 EST Subject: Hawkwind Golden Void 1969-1979/Chrome New CD update Message-ID: Hi, New Hawkwind 2-CD compilation by cleopatra: Golden Void 1969-1979 includes: 6 early Hawkwind, 4 Sonic Assassins tracks, 2 Hawkwind Zoo songs, 2 by Hawklords, and the the 4 Earth Ritual EP tracks, plus the Dave Brock interview from the "official Picture log book" (or so i'm told, i didn't play the 2nd disc yet). Nice pullout cover with tons of sleeve notes. anyhow, a comp is a comp is a comp. Update on the new Chrome 2-cd, the live disc has the track lists incorectly indicated. there are 12 tracks on cd, but the liner notes only list 11, from track 8 on tracks are listed incorrectly. I wonder if the person doing the packaging actually knows much about Chrome? This sort of blunder can confuse newer fans. But since i have no problem telling one track from the next, it doesn';t take away from my immense enjoyment of it. bob http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jan 15 23:44:06 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 04:44:06 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind Golden Void 1969-1979/Chrome New CD update In-Reply-To: <14a9e5ab.369ff800@aol.com> Message-ID: At 21:22 15/01/99 EST, you wrote: >Hi, >New Hawkwind 2-CD compilation by cleopatra: Golden Void 1969-1979 >includes: 6 early Hawkwind, 4 Sonic Assassins tracks, 2 Hawkwind Zoo songs, 2 >by Hawklords, and the the 4 Earth Ritual EP tracks, plus the Dave Brock >interview from the "official Picture log book" (or so i'm told, i didn't play > okay, i really should b shutting my eyes now, but i've got toe know: which early hw?! which sa?! what hz!? what hl?! is is stuff we'll know from other ('official') releases or uncovered demos/live stuff? on tenterhooks (and anything else going) andrew andrew at deluminate.freeserve.co.uk From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Jan 16 06:01:46 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 11:01:46 +0000 Subject: HW: In Your Area In-Reply-To: <3681@ems.rail.co.uk> Message-ID: In article <3681 at ems.rail.co.uk>, Mark Edmonds writes >From: Mark Edmonds >Date: 1999-01-15 13:09 > >Please can someone scan the cover for us to see? I must admit I find it >extremely galling to know that a Hawkwind album has been released in the >States ahead of good ol' blighty! > >Mark Isn't it? This is the first new studio album since PXR5 I've not bought on day of release. Still, it's forced me to be patient enough to wait for a mail order copy at $11.79 i.e. around ?7, whereas if it was at the local, I would have paid ?15.99 for it the day it was out. Maybe it is time to tell UK CD retailers to screw off entirely with their rip-off prices. -- Jon From pn013 at LAMP.AC.UK Sat Jan 16 14:44:58 1999 From: pn013 at LAMP.AC.UK (THE CIDER KING) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 19:44:58 GMT Subject: BOC: Live '76 video Message-ID: Hello all, Just a quick not to British BOC-Lers. I managed to get my hands on a copy of the Live '76 video from the video rack in my parents' local Co-op supermarket. Cheap too, just 3 pounds 99. Not sure how many other copies have been bought by the Co-op, but just thought it might be an idea to keep your eyes open. Cheers, Martin "And when the party's over, It's all over" - Blue Oyster Cult From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Jan 16 16:25:34 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 16:25:34 EST Subject: Hawkwind Golden Void 1969-1979/Chrome New CD update Message-ID: In a message dated 1/15/99 11:47:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: > > okay, i really should b shutting my eyes now, but i've got toe know: which > early hw?! which sa?! what hz!? what hl?! is is stuff we'll know from other > ('official') releases or uncovered demos/live stuff? > actually, havent played the whole thing yet, but I understand that it's the standard flicknife fair....the only thing that appears to be "new" to cd that is, unless i'm mistaken, is the interview...but then again, i'm not a big comp-hound bob http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Sat Jan 16 23:14:07 1999 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 21:14:07 -0700 Subject: HW: Amorphis Message-ID: >From the Fall/Winter issue of Progression magazine, in an article about prog-metal bands: "Amorphis, Elegy. Once a standard death metal band, Amorphis has become one of the most adventurous and smart metal bands working today. On Elegy, they took their inspiration from the 19th century book of Finnish lore, the Kanteletar. In these 10 too-short songs, electric and acoustic guitars meld seamlessly with sitars and tambourines to create a folk-metal sound unlike any other. Amorphis is a metal band that plays absolutely no heed to genre traditions and trends. For instance, the keyboard player lists Parliament/Funkadelic as his chief influence, and the song "Cares" has a polka interlude, for god sakes! Another point of interest: the follow-up disc, the My Kantele EP, sports a fantastic cover of Hawkwind's "Levitation" and sees the band developing a knack for space rock." Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nicad at CLARA.CO.UK Sun Jan 17 15:41:35 1999 From: nicad at CLARA.CO.UK (nick adams) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:41:35 -0000 Subject: Hawkwind boots Message-ID: HI !! A couple of weeks ago i asked about a load of Hawkwind bootlegs i was after, somebody contacted me saying they had some originals for sale, can you please get in touch with me again as i have lost your e mail address, also if anyone else can help me in the pursuit of the following. = live at the bottom line 1978 = glastobury 1981 = live at stonehenge and watchfield 1982 = the golden void = the never ending story of the psychedelic warlords = live at reading 1986 = solstice at stonehenge 1983 = orgasmatron = live at st albans 1979 = lords of light, kings of speed....detroit ? bochom germany 8/10/91 = assassins of allah = dawn of hawkwind = rock city = the cyberspace conspiracy = nova drive = damnation alley = timeless paens from the ongoing rituals of space = the secret tepee = corridor of flame = theta orionis = the a files = Angels of death = atomhenge = ironstrike And any others i dont know about, Thanks for reading this, and any help is much appreciated. Kind Regards Nick From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jan 18 04:51:46 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:51:46 +0000 Subject: OFF: Dr Hasbeen. In-Reply-To: <199901161000.FAA26712@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jan 18 07:46:20 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:46:20 GMT Subject: HW: In your Area and Hawkwind 97 In-Reply-To: XXX's message of Fri, 8 Jan 1999 21:55:32 -0000 Message-ID: XXX writes: > > We did have a competition once for cover art for the Silver Machine 10th > anniversary CD. > We are always open to submissions for cd artwork. Hey Tim: is there a colour version of that Hawk, Moon and Stones piccie? That'd make a neat cover for a CD. FoFP From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Mon Jan 18 09:04:17 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:04:17 +0000 Subject: HW: In your Area and Hawkwind 97 In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:46:20 GMT." <199901181246.MAA27587@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > XXX writes: > > > > We did have a competition once for cover art for the Silver Machine 10th > > anniversary CD. > > We are always open to submissions for cd artwork. > > Hey Tim: is there a colour version of that Hawk, Moon and Stones piccie? > That'd make a neat cover for a CD. Heh, maybe. As far as the original goes, it was B&W, and I expect it resides somewhere in storage for Paul Mather. I was never really happy with the results of any of the t-shirt designs I did though. That doesn't mean I couldn't be persuaded to redo or extend the ideas again :-) I'd be pretty chuffed to get one of my pictures as a Hawkwind CD cover! Tim From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jan 18 10:32:33 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:32:33 GMT Subject: HW: Need ID on anonymous HW video In-Reply-To: Stephen Swann's message of Tue, 12 Jan 1999 19:41:12 -0500 Message-ID: Stephen Swann writes: > I have a video that I can't identify, because it was bootlegged from a > legitimate source, but the opening creds were cut off, and the closing > creds don't give me enough of a clue as to what it is. > > The closing credits do say that it was recorded at: > > Phantasy Theater, Cleveland OH > Odd Rock Cafe, Milwaukee WI > The Palace, Hollywood CA > > And that it's (c) 1990 Horizon Films > > It's about 45 min long, and contains an extended version of The Golden > Void (much like the Palace Springs version), featuring some really > funky computer rendered animation of alien planetscapes and such. > > Also, the vid opens with the band setting up in a practice studio, and > ends with a post-show party of some sort. > > Can anybody ID this vid? And better yet, does anybody know a > source for a legitimate copy of it? That rings a bell. It's the one that opens with piccies of all the Hawkwind albums. It's either the Promos Video or the US Tour 89/90 video - sorry, I can't remember which one. I'd bet that Kris still supplies it through Hawkwind Merchandising. Kris? P.S. If you are online, do you guys have supplies of the Weird tapes? My Hawklords Live one finally went kaput. Or is Cherry Hocking still manning the switches at Wolden? I swear I'm gonna back 'em up this time... FoFP From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Jan 18 10:39:38 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:39:38 +0000 Subject: HW: "Weird Tapes" Message-ID: On m?n 18 jan 1999 15.32 +0000 "M Holmes" wrote: > Kris? > P.S. If you are online, do you guys have supplies of the Weird tapes? My > Hawklords Live one finally went kaput. Or is Cherry Hocking still > manning the switches at Wolden? Damn good question! I've been holding out for several years, since HW keep rumoring that they're going to put the WT on CD. It's been at least 4 or 5 years since this was first mentioned, and I've yet to see any sign of it happening. Probably the best way to bring it about would be for me to finally get the cassette versions ;) *Are* the "Weird Tapes" available? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Jan 18 11:46:25 1999 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:46:25 -0000 Subject: OFF: MONSTER MAGNET Message-ID: Well not only are MM now a bona fide pop band (No 39 in the UK singles chart, but the CDS have the videos of "Powertrip" on CD1 and "Negasonic Teenage Warhead" on CD2. If anyone has trouble getting them I can provide for ?2.99/$5 post paid. Private e-mail if interested. Zeitgeist e-zine & freezine PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jan 18 12:01:54 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:01:54 GMT Subject: HW: Need ID on anonymous HW video In-Reply-To: M Holmes's message of Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:32:33 GMT Message-ID: M Holmes writes: > That rings a bell. It's the one that opens with piccies of all the > Hawkwind albums. It's either the Promos Video or the US Tour 89/90 video not Promos - I was playing that last night - but there are some truly excellent graphic displays on it I had totally forgotten about. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Jan 18 14:09:00 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:09:00 +0000 Subject: HW: "Weird Tapes" In-Reply-To: <1104201.3125662778@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 18 Jan 1999, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > Damn good question! I've been holding out for several years, > since HW keep rumoring that they're going to put the WT on CD. It's > been at least 4 or 5 years since this was first mentioned, and I've > yet to see any sign of it happening. Probably the best way to bring > it about would be for me to finally get the cassette versions ;) > > *Are* the "Weird Tapes" available? Knut has a an address on the Calvert page to order them from, though I don't know if it's actually functional. It's the Wolden one, anyhow. Yours, Jon -- /_______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 338100) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "`It's a Venusian space bassist,' said Turner the bird being." | | (Hawkwind, sleeve notes to 'Doremi Fasol Latido') | \_______________________________________________________________________/ From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jan 18 15:24:35 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:24:35 -0000 Subject: HW: "Weird Tapes" Message-ID: I believe they still are available from the Wolden Studios address. I bought a bunch that I hadn't got to buying yet only a couple of years ago. Still at ?5 each from the same Wolden Studios address. I've got a flyer somewhere still, I think. Nick -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 18 January 1999 15:51 Subject: HW: "Weird Tapes" On m?n 18 jan 1999 15.32 +0000 "M Holmes" wrote: > Kris? > P.S. If you are online, do you guys have supplies of the Weird tapes? My > Hawklords Live one finally went kaput. Or is Cherry Hocking still > manning the switches at Wolden? Damn good question! I've been holding out for several years, since HW keep rumoring that they're going to put the WT on CD. It's been at least 4 or 5 years since this was first mentioned, and I've yet to see any sign of it happening. Probably the best way to bring it about would be for me to finally get the cassette versions ;) *Are* the "Weird Tapes" available? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From charlie.grant at LINEONE.NET Mon Jan 18 15:58:28 1999 From: charlie.grant at LINEONE.NET (Charlie Grant) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:58:28 -0000 Subject: OFF: MONSTER MAGNET Message-ID: There is also an Internet only single release available via their web site. It is "Let It Ride" and includes the video for "Space Lord". It is $5 = $2 p+p. from www.monstermagnet.net .......Charlie. -----Original Message----- From: Stuart A Hamilton To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 18 January 1999 19:06 Subject: OFF: MONSTER MAGNET >Well not only are MM now a bona fide pop band (No 39 in the UK singles >chart, but the CDS have the videos of "Powertrip" on CD1 and "Negasonic >Teenage Warhead" on CD2. If anyone has trouble getting them I can provide >for ?2.99/$5 post paid. >Private e-mail if interested. >Zeitgeist e-zine & freezine >PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK >http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com > From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jan 18 18:20:30 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:20:30 -0000 Subject: HW: "Weird Tapes" Message-ID: *Are* the "Weird Tapes" available? I've dug out that flyer. The Weird Tapes were still available two years ago from Wolden Studios. It says that the tapes are recorded on 'the nearest suitably sized TDK cassette' which implies that they are made to order. The address: Wolden Studios Mid Lodge Landcross Near Bideford EX39 5JB Tapes were (are?) ?5 each inc. p&p. The cheques were made payable to 'Wolden Studios' Hope you can stillget them, Nick From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Mon Jan 18 19:33:34 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:33:34 EST Subject: HW: "Weird Tapes" Message-ID: In a message dated 1/18/99 10:42:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK writes: > > Kris? > > P.S. If you are online, do you guys have supplies of the Weird tapes? My > > Hawklords Live one finally went kaput. Or is Cherry Hocking still > > manning the switches at Wolden? > > Damn good question! I've been holding out for several years, > since HW keep rumoring that they're going to put the WT on CD. It's > been at least 4 or 5 years since this was first mentioned, and I've > yet to see any sign of it happening. Probably the best way to bring > it about would be for me to finally get the cassette versions ;) > > *Are* the "Weird Tapes" available? > > Cheers, > Carl > I believe the weird tapes are still available at Wolden Studios, although Geoffrey Hocking is doing the stuff now days...at least last time I had contact with him bob http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Jan 18 21:05:40 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 21:05:40 EST Subject: HW: FS Message-ID: Subject: HAWKWIND + related -- For Sale From: Andy Date: Mon, Jan 18, 1999 20:12 EST Message-id: I have the following VINYL for sale: To reply, remove: SPAM?NeineDanke! from email address: ande_tucker at hotmail.SPAM?NeineDanke!.com ====== H A W K W I N D ====== LP - Hawklords 25 Years On with obi strip and lyric sheet M/M (JAPANESE 1978) = $100 7" - Silver Machine/7 By 7 = $100 EX/EX (Israel 1972 in PS) 7" - Silver Machine/S Machine/Psych Warlords = $10 M/EX (UK 10th anniversary 1982 in PS) 7" - Silver Machine/S Machine/Psych Warlords = $15 M/no PS issued (UK *PICTURE DISC*) 7" - Silver Machine/7 BY 7 = $10 M/no PS issued (UK Warrior logo PICTURE DISC) 7" - Kerb Crawler/Honky Dorky = $15 EX/no PS issued (UK 1976) 7" - Back on The Streets/Dream Of Isis = $15 EX/no PS issued (UK 1977) 7" - Quark Strangeness & Charm/Forge Of Vulcan = $15 EX/no PS issued (UK 1977) 7" - Psi Power/Death Trap = $15 EX/no PS issued (UK 1977) 2xLP- Business Of The Future = $20 M/M UK fold out sleeve LP - The Cyberspace Conspiracy = $10 M/M Numbered limited edition of 250 ====== H A W K W I N D R E L A T E D ====== LP - Captain Lockheed (BGO reissue) = $14 M/M UK gatefold sleeve LP - Lucky Leif (BGO reissue) = $14 M/M UK gatefold sleeve 7" - Pressurehed (Niks backing band) = $2 The Right Stuff/Man In Static Numbered limited edition of 500 in P/S 7" - Lunar Malice (ex PINK FAIRIES) = $3 Gunfire In The Night/Touched By The Fire Inc Mick Farren & Andy Colquhoun. Numbered limited edition of 500 on clear vinyl in P/S CAS - Harvey Bainbridge = $5 Interstellar Chaos (UK Cassette) Gradings according Record Collector magazine, disc/sleeve. Postage in the U.S. included, overseas extra From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Tue Jan 19 06:16:15 1999 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Guy Thomas) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:16:15 +0000 Subject: HW: "Weird Tapes" In-Reply-To: <76b7028e.36a3d2de@aol.com> Message-ID: Last time I talkded to Geoff Hocking, he still had all the Weird Tapes. He said that he still had masters for the original version of Weird 105 (officially replaced by the new version, with a slightly different track listing, and without the USA Quark radio advert) and could run off a copy if anybody was really mad enough to want one!!!! In one of Brian Tawn's Hawkfans, there was the address and phone number for Geoff Hocking, at Wolden Lodge Studios, so maybe it wouldn't hurt to telephone before ordering: Cherry & Geoff Hocking Wolden Studios, Mid Lodge, Landcross, Bideford, Devon, EX39 5JB UK 012374-77729 (**44-12374-77729 - outside UK) Guy Thomas From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jan 19 04:21:51 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 09:21:51 +0000 Subject: HW: In your Area and Hawkwind 97 In-Reply-To: <199901181246.MAA27587@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <199901181246.MAA27587 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >XXX writes: >> >> We did have a competition once for cover art for the Silver Machine 10th >> anniversary CD. >> We are always open to submissions for cd artwork. > >Hey Tim: is there a colour version of that Hawk, Moon and Stones piccie? >That'd make a neat cover for a CD. > >FoFP I've just bought a scanner. First pic I scanned was one I took of Nik at Henge 84. OK it's just the one pic, but I reckon it's a corker and would make a dandy cover too. I'll mail you if you want it. -- Jon From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jan 19 07:07:36 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 12:07:36 GMT Subject: HW: "Weird Tapes" In-Reply-To: Guy Thomas's message of Tue, 19 Jan 1999 11:16:15 +0000 Message-ID: Guy Thomas writes: > Last time I talkded to Geoff Hocking, he still had all the Weird Tapes. > > He said that he still had masters for the original version of Weird 105 > (officially replaced by the new version, with a slightly different track > listing, and without the USA Quark radio advert) and could run off a copy if > anybody was really mad enough to want one!!!! Yep, they did one for me about five years back. Speaking of obscure pre-releases. Did anyone get the first mail order copy of the Live Chronicles video straight from the band? I'm reliably informed that Dave later altered the video and the final release was two tracks different from the later one. I dunno which tracks but would be most curious and would gnaw off my foot to get the two missing tracks. FoFP From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Tue Jan 19 09:17:21 1999 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 07:17:21 -0700 Subject: HW: "Weird Tapes" In-Reply-To: <199901191207.MAA28801@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: I believe they were on the "1979 - 1989 Concerts - Festivals - Private Parties" video available from the band a few years ago (and advertised on page 20 of 'Hawkfan #18'). The songs on it are "Battle Seq Elric" and "Choose Your Mask," and are similar to, but different from, the versions on the Jettisoundz video. Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of M Holmes > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 1999 5:08 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: HW: "Weird Tapes" > > > Guy Thomas writes: > > > Last time I talkded to Geoff Hocking, he still had all the Weird Tapes. > > > > He said that he still had masters for the original version of Weird 105 > > (officially replaced by the new version, with a slightly different track > > listing, and without the USA Quark radio advert) and could run > off a copy if > > anybody was really mad enough to want one!!!! > > Yep, they did one for me about five years back. > > Speaking of obscure pre-releases. Did anyone get the first mail order > copy of the Live Chronicles video straight from the band? > > I'm reliably informed that Dave later altered the video and the final > release was two tracks different from the later one. I dunno which > tracks but would be most curious and would gnaw off my foot to get the > two missing tracks. > > FoFP > From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Jan 19 12:37:03 1999 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:37:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Black Sword video Message-ID: M Holmes schrieb: > Speaking of obscure pre-releases. Did anyone get the first mail order > copy of the Live Chronicles video straight from the band? > > I'm reliably informed that Dave later altered the video and the final > release was two tracks different from the later one. I dunno which > tracks but would be most curious and would gnaw off my foot to get the > two missing tracks. > > FoFP A friend of mine, Rainer Wangler, is one of about 25 lucky people who has got one. I have seen it, but it has the same tracks, only the video graphics on some of the tracks are different. If I remember correctly it was Zarozinia and Needle Gun. Andreas From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jan 20 04:05:09 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:05:09 +0000 Subject: HW: "Weird Tapes" In-Reply-To: <199901191207.MAA28801@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <199901191207.MAA28801 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >I'm reliably informed that Dave later altered the video and the final >release was two tracks different from the later one. I dunno which >tracks but would be most curious and would gnaw off my foot to get the >two missing tracks. > >FoFP perhaps they could market a restored version with the two extra tracks plus footage of Mike gnawing his foot off. -- Jon From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jan 20 07:26:17 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 12:26:17 GMT Subject: Sci-Fi Delic EP Message-ID: Looks like I missed getting this one by Alan Davey. Does anyone have a spare they'd like to sell or trade? FoFP From sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK Tue Jan 19 13:37:43 1999 From: sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:37:43 -0000 Subject: last night's evening session on radio1 Message-ID: Subject: Re: last night's evening session on radio1 >On tor 14 jan 1999 12.06 +0000 bart wrote: >> I'm pretty sure he said Dark Star, as opposed to DarXtar, and I'd be >surprised >> / amazed if the latter was played on radio1. Any info on the tune I heard >> appreciated. This Darkstar is actually made up of ex-members of Levitation inc. Christian Hayes (who also spent time in Cardiacs). From what I`ve heard, they`re pretty good. Si ----- "I`ve got 'some' answers to 'most' of your questions!" The Alice Cooper Trivia File - http://village.vossnet.co.uk/s/sihalley/intro.html My Tubes Page - http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/7998/ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Jan 20 17:01:44 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:01:44 -0500 Subject: OFF: Dark Star Message-ID: Subject: Re: last night's evening session on radio1 >>On tor 14 jan 1999 12.06 +0000 bart wrote: >>> I'm pretty sure he said Dark Star, as opposed to DarXtar, and I'd be >>>surprised/amazed if the latter was played on radio1. Any info on the tune >>>I heard...appreciated. > >This Darkstar is actually made up of ex-members of Levitation inc. >Christian Hayes (who also spent time in Cardiacs). From what I`ve heard, >they`re pretty good. Well, being a fan of Levitation myself, I looked into this mess. To be honest, I'm more confused than ever...there are obviously several different Dark Star's. (Bengtsson admitted to me that the spelling of darXtar was largely to avoid some of this terrible confusion.) I have been able to find evidence of several full-length and single discs attributed to various Dark Stars. "Marching into Oblivion" This is a band made up of a couple of Germans and a couple of Californians I believe, and is spacerock in nature, according to their webpage (http://members.aol.com/X1Darkstar/). The leader was previously in a band called Psychotic Waltz. Christian Hayes is *not* a member. 'MiO' was their first release (cool cover) and a second is due in March. This may be the band heard on BBC Radio 1 (?) "Gracedelica" (CD single) This second Dark Star contains members of Levitation (presumably Christian Hayes, who apparently was called 'Bic' while in the Cardiacs). But I can't tell if there are any other releases by this particular Dark Star. This certainly could also be the band heard on BBC Radio 1. "Untitled" or "Dark Star" ? A techno (?) duo of a guy named Pure (?) from Loop and Christoph Fringeli from Praxis. "Travelogue" This CD is the most confusing yet. It seems to be attributed to the *band* Dark Star, but then was also released on a label (in Germany) that has a sub-label called Dark Star. Anyway, the style of this one is gothic/electronic and has members of Legendary Pink Dots' guesting. But I don't really know if the band's name was truly Dark Star or not. Or whether it's any of the above. Finally, there are some more titles that I can't tell who they're by. "Twenty-Twenty Sound" (full-length) "Universal Conquest" (single) Hope that clears things up a bit. :) Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Terry Bickers, the frontman for Levitation, has his own new band called Cradle. 'Baba Yaga' was the first full-length release. Haven't heard it yet though. P.P.S. When is darXtar's Tombola to be released?? From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Jan 20 17:13:16 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 17:13:16 -0500 Subject: HW/OFF: Aural Innovations Message-ID: Hi Folks... As contributer to this endeavor (along with Christian and Scott), blame me for spamming the list with this item. Keith H. (FAA) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Forwarded From: "Jerry Kranitz" Hello spacerockers - Can I spam the list if it's spacerock related? Don't beat me up too badly if this isn't cool. Anyway, I publish Aural Innovations: The Global Source For SpaceRock Exploration and issue #5 is ready. Here's my blurb: Issue #5 (January `99) of Aural Innovations: The Global Source For SpaceRock Exploration is ready. This is our second year of publication and we've grown to 40 pages. In this issue you'll find: Articles: Alien Planetscapes The Texas Psych Scene Lard Free/Heldon (Part II) Band Profiles/Interviews: The Asteroid #4 BORN to GO Walk On Water Melodic Energy Commission Ole Lukkoye Glenn Fletcher/Babymash SpaceRock Crossword Puzzle Plus lots of reviews! Single issue copies are $3 in the U.S./Canada and $4 everywhere else. SAVE by subscribing. Yearly subscriptions (4 issues) are $10 in the U.S./Canada and $14 everywhere else. Issues #3 & #4 are still available at the single copy price. For more information visit the Aural Innovations homepage at http://www.infinet.com/~jkranitz/space/space.html Jerry Kranitz (jkranitz at infinet.com) Check out Aural Innovations, a space rock newsletter: http://www.infinet.com/~jkranitz/space/space.html (Space Page) http://www.infinet.com/~jkranitz/music/music.html (Prog Page) From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jan 20 18:56:42 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:56:42 +0000 Subject: last night's evening session on radio1 In-Reply-To: <01be43da$cd215d80$e65abcc3@pc> Message-ID: In message <01be43da$cd215d80$e65abcc3 at pc>, Si Halley writes >This Darkstar is actually made up of ex-members of Levitation inc. Christian >Hayes (who also spent time in Cardiacs). From what I`ve heard, they`re >pretty good. > >Si Stone me. Before Chris AKA Bic was in Cardiacs, he was in a band called Ring with me, for a couple of years. Small world. -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jan 20 19:02:45 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 00:02:45 +0000 Subject: OFF: Dark Star In-Reply-To: <199901202210.RAA13695@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: In message <199901202210.RAA13695 at mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu>, Keith Henderson writes >This second Dark Star contains members of Levitation (presumably Christian >Hayes, who apparently was called 'Bic' while in the Cardiacs). His first band was Bic & The Biros, he got the name because being of slight build and cropped hair, he looked like a biro . He then had an *excellent* band called Panixsphere. Then he did Ring, with me, then the Dave Howard Singers (who I also liked a lot) then Cardiacs, then Levitation (you *know* where that came from), then Mice with Julianne Regan from All About Eve. lost touch after that. -- Jon From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Thu Jan 21 04:39:50 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Bart Brugmans) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:39:50 +0100 Subject: HW: assasins of allah bootleg Message-ID: Hi, Yesterday I walked into a record store and bought myself the Assasins of Allah bootleg and Alien4 on vinyl. They had at least one more Assasins of Allah. If anyone is interested let me know. Mabey we can arrage at trade or something. --BArt From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Thu Jan 21 04:39:50 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Bart Brugmans) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:39:50 +0100 Subject: OFF: work and love of space... Message-ID: Hi there, I seem to meet more and more people working in the environmental protection area who are HW/StarTrek/Monster Magnet lovers. I wonder how it is on this list? --BArt "It's in your head" | Bart Brugmans | tel: 0314 378946 | werk: 030 2316833 (ma,di,do en op even weken ook vrij) | web: http://www.bundersbos.demon.nl | email: bart at bundersbos.demon.nl From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Jan 21 05:15:26 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:15:26 +0000 Subject: HW: Whats the difference In-Reply-To: <199901181001.FAA02389@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hi, I just did a search of CDZone and found these (I've removed the NTSC listings). Who wants to tell me what the difference is between the versions ? Results of search for Hawkwind. ?13.82 Chronicle Of The Black Sword JE297N ?13.82 Hawkwind - Chaos JE287N ?13.82 Hawkwind - Love In Space JE290N ?13.00 Hawkwind-Chronicle Of The Black Sword JE297 ?13.00 Hawkwind-Love In Space JE290 ?13.00 Hawkwind-Night Of The Hawks JE123 ?13.00 Solstice At Stonehenge 84 JE250 ?13.00 Hawkwind Chaos Tour 86 JE287 I guess that those with an N suffix are NTSC also, am I correct ? Are these reasonable prices or should I be looking elsewhere ? Cheers guys. Mark. NP: Pink Floyd - DSOT Disc 2 - Run like Hell (Very Loud) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.demon.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Thu Jan 21 06:52:54 1999 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (Scott Heller) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:52:54 +0200 Subject: OFF:KUla Shaker Message-ID: Hej, Just saw Kula Shaker last night here in Copenhagen. I was quite suprised that the bands 2nd song was HURRY ON SUNDOWN! I knew they had released it on a single but they actually played it. Not a bad version. They also played HUSH by Deep Purple and several new songs, that all seem to have a 60's psych feel to them. NOt bad but they really play it totally safe and never experiment or jam, with all songs being around 3-4 minutes long. When it seem like they could go into a jam with a guitar solo or organ solo, it was back to the chorus within 15 seconds... Very disappointing... Whole show including encore was like 62minutes! Pretty lame..$15 and no opening act.. SCott ObCs- Frank Zappa- Arhus, Denmark 1976 R. Scott Heller PhD Hagedorn Research Institute Department of Developmental Biology Niels Steensensvej 6 DK 2820 Gentofte Denmark (45) 44 43 91 37 Phone (45) 44 43 80 00 Fax shll at hagedorn.dk Http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/stage/7713 From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Jan 21 08:40:50 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 13:40:50 +0000 Subject: OFF:KUla Shaker In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Scott Heller writes >Hej, > > Just saw Kula Shaker last night here in Copenhagen. I was quite >suprised that the bands 2nd song was HURRY ON SUNDOWN! I knew they had >released it on a single but they actually played it. Not a bad version. >They also played HUSH by Deep Purple and several new songs, that all seem >to have a 60's psych feel to them. NOt bad but they really play it totally >safe and never experiment or jam, with all songs being around 3-4 minutes >long. When it seem like they could go into a jam with a guitar solo or >organ solo, it was back to the chorus within 15 seconds... Very >disappointing... Whole show including encore was like 62minutes! Pretty >lame..$15 and no opening act.. > >SCott and the keyboard player had spaghetti hoops in his beard. -- Jon ObCD's Harmonia - Music Von Harmonia V/A - A Heavy Dose of Lite Psyche From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Jan 21 17:07:15 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:07:15 +0000 Subject: Sci-Fi Delic EP Message-ID: On ons 20 jan 1999 12.26 +0000 "M Holmes" wrote: > Looks like I missed getting this one by Alan Davey. Does anyone have a > spare they'd like to sell or trade? Well, I *had* two (one or Scot H. though), but I've sent them both off to Alan since the label gum seemed to have eaten the data :/ Bummer, as it was kinda cool, IMO. -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Thu Jan 21 17:05:37 1999 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:05:37 -0500 Subject: HW: Whats the difference Message-ID: Reasonable in the US once ya convert. Chaos is the best of the lot, except for Live Chronicles. (IMO) If ya get Sword, get the ver. with the extra tracks! -----Original Message----- From: Mark P Lee To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Thursday, January 21, 1999 5:30 AM Subject: HW: Whats the difference Hi, I just did a search of CDZone and found these (I've removed the NTSC listings). Who wants to tell me what the difference is between the versions ? Results of search for Hawkwind. #13.82 Chronicle Of The Black Sword JE297N #13.82 Hawkwind - Chaos JE287N #13.82 Hawkwind - Love In Space JE290N #13.00 Hawkwind-Chronicle Of The Black Sword JE297 #13.00 Hawkwind-Love In Space JE290 #13.00 Hawkwind-Night Of The Hawks JE123 #13.00 Solstice At Stonehenge 84 JE250 #13.00 Hawkwind Chaos Tour 86 JE287 I guess that those with an N suffix are NTSC also, am I correct ? Are these reasonable prices or should I be looking elsewhere ? Cheers guys. Mark. NP: Pink Floyd - DSOT Disc 2 - Run like Hell (Very Loud) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.demon.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu Jan 21 19:17:54 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:17:54 EST Subject: Hawkwind: Fanzine update Message-ID: hello hawkers: Update on Hawk-U.S./Time & Space fanzine Issue #7 is due out within days/a few weeks I am currently having the fanzine printed as we type. This issue will include a special Space Rock CD-R that will feature all 13 bands that played at Strange Daze 98. All tracks were recorded live at the event. It comes with a nice color cover. I'll give out more details in a few days as I get it ready for mailing out. please check my website for info in case you miss the next post. Please do not send out postage for this issue as was usual in the past, as I still am working out the costs involved in shipping it out. As mentioned i will update this list and put news of release on the website http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html see ya bob From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jan 21 21:45:31 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:45:31 -0500 Subject: OFF: Dark Star Message-ID: More on various Dark Stars... >"Travelogue" > >This CD is the most confusing yet. It seems to be attributed to the *band* >Dark Star, but then was also released on a label (in Germany) that has a >sub-label called Dark Star. Anyway, the style of this one is >gothic/electronic and has members of Legendary Pink Dots' guesting. But I >don't really know if the band's name was truly Dark Star or not. Or >whether it's any of the above. OK, I now discover this is a different band from the rest (so that makes at least 4 Dark Star's, apart from darXtar). Actually, it's just one guy, a German named Wolfgang Reffert, who also has a radio show named Pleasuredome on Radio Dreyeckland. (?) Anyway, he released his first album, "Headtrip," back in 1992, then "Travelogue" in 1993. He has also had some cassette releases on M&E ("States of Mind," "No Sign of Intelligent Life," and "Arrival of the Masters of Confusion.") Travelogue was issued on the Strange Ways label, which *does* now have a sub-label called (strangely enough) Dark Star. Arrggghhhh!!! And we thought four "Masters of the Universe" comps. was confusing!! Keith H. (FAA) ObFuckingCD: Agitation Free - At the cliffs of river Rhine (Brilliant!) From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Thu Jan 21 23:15:55 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 04:15:55 +0000 Subject: OFF: Bruce Dickinson Message-ID: I've had Bruce Dickinson's "Chemical Wedding" for a couple weeks now, and I just can't stop playing it! Very good. I recommend it, if anyone cares : ) -- Nick From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Jan 22 05:26:28 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:26:28 +0000 Subject: OFF: work and love of space... Message-ID: I hold merrily extremist environmental views :) But don't work in the field--I might have done an environmental earth science degree, but fled from even so much math as was there involved to medieval studies :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jan 22 05:30:48 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:30:48 +0000 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 21 Jan 1999 to 22 Jan 1999 In-Reply-To: <199901221000.FAA16630@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: > >Reasonable in the US once ya convert. >Chaos is the best of the lot, except for Live Chronicles. (IMO) >If ya get Sword, get the ver. with the extra tracks! > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark P Lee >Subject: HW: Whats the difference > > Results of search for Hawkwind. > >#13.82 Chronicle Of The Black Sword JE297N >#13.82 Hawkwind - Chaos JE287N >#13.82 Hawkwind - Love In Space JE290N >#13.00 Hawkwind-Chronicle Of The Black Sword JE297 >#13.00 Hawkwind-Love In Space JE290 >#13.00 Hawkwind-Night Of The Hawks JE123 >#13.00 Solstice At Stonehenge 84 JE250 >#13.00 Hawkwind Chaos Tour 86 JE287 > Thanks, but, which one has the extra tracks ??? I am considering upgrading the old video recorder to one which can handle NTSC format. Does anyone have a track list for any of the above except for LIS which I picked up at Virgin last week for 7.99UKP !! It's not been popped out of the vid m/c for 5 days... Cheers, Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.demon.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK Thu Jan 21 14:02:54 1999 From: sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:02:54 -0000 Subject: OFF: Dark Star Message-ID: Subject: OFF: Dark Star >Well, being a fan of Levitation myself, I looked into this mess. To be >honest, I'm more confused than ever...there are obviously several different >Dark Star's. (Bengtsson admitted to me that the spelling of darXtar was >largely to avoid some of this terrible confusion.) >"Gracedelica" (CD single) > >This second Dark Star contains members of Levitation (presumably Christian >Hayes, who apparently was called 'Bic' while in the Cardiacs). But I can't >tell if there are any other releases by this particular Dark Star. This >certainly could also be the band heard on BBC Radio 1. > This is the first release. There`s been a lot of talk about them on the cardiacs list. It was definitly them on the session recently. And just to add to your list of Darkstar bands. There was a NWOHM band of that name circa 1980-2 who released at least one album. The most known track was called `lady of mars` and to make it even weirder, I always thought the track always sounded much better when played at 45rpm instead of 33. Si ----- "I`ve got 'some' answers to 'most' of your questions!" The Alice Cooper Trivia File - http://village.vossnet.co.uk/s/sihalley/intro.html My Tubes Page - http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/7998/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jan 22 06:06:27 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:06:27 GMT Subject: Bedouin CD for trade Message-ID: For reasons complex I now have an extra of Alan Davey's Bedouin CD for sale or trade. 1998 Bedouin (Also with Danny Thompson) Rock Palace Wadi Dhar Passion is an Animal Alhadan Space Rock Cafe One Moon Circles Queen of the Night Eyes in the Dark Sand Devil Email me if interested.... FoFP From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jan 22 06:51:36 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:51:36 GMT Subject: OFF: work and love of space... In-Reply-To: Bart Brugmans's message of Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:39:50 +0100 Message-ID: Bart Brugmans writes: > Hi there, > > I seem to meet more and more people working in the environmental > protection area who are HW/StarTrek/Monster Magnet lovers. > I wonder how it is on this list? Babylon 5 for me - there is no other! But tho' I ride a bike and don't have a car and buy organic milk whenever I can find it I guess I don't do much more in the way of environment protection. Which probably doesn't help much! cheers 8-) jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Jan 22 07:13:47 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:13:47 -0000 Subject: OFF: work and love of space... In-Reply-To: <199901221151.LAA12277@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > I seem to meet more and more people working in the environmental > > protection area who are HW/StarTrek/Monster Magnet lovers. > > I wonder how it is on this list? HW for me is more like a marriage - the honeymoon period ended a long time ago, we even had a trial separation. But even though the BLANGA isn't what it was, I keep coming back, and I miss them when they're gone. So it's not love, exactly, any more... or maybe it is, I dunno. :) Stargate SG-1 is my pulp tv of choice these days. Monster Magnet are fun, but I'll never be a huge fan. And my car won't run on unleaded petrol :) - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Fri Jan 22 07:24:24 1999 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:24:24 +0000 Subject: OFF: work and love of space... In-Reply-To: <000701be4600$a977d620$753463c3@default> Message-ID: At 12:13 22/01/99 -0000, Andy Gilham wrote: >And my car won't run on unleaded petrol :) And you have "tested on animals" stickers on your bathroom goods? Dave. (Idea taken from "The Stone Canal", by Ken MacLeod. Anarchist SF; it contains the best joke in SF, IMO. His first book, "The Star Fraction", is even better, and lists a certain Mike Holmes among the credits). Languages Group Manager. Harlequin Ltd., Lismore House, 127 George St, Edinburgh, EH2 4JN, UK. Tel: +44 131 240 6106. From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Jan 22 07:29:56 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:29:56 -0000 Subject: OFF: work and love of space... In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990122122424.01739450@mailhost.ed.harlequin.co.uk> Message-ID: > > And you have "tested on animals" stickers on your bathroom goods? > :) No, but I do recycle! - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jan 22 07:35:14 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:35:14 +0000 Subject: OFF: work and love of space... In-Reply-To: <000701be4600$a977d620$753463c3@default> Message-ID: At 12:13 22/01/99 -0000, you wrote: >> > I seem to meet more and more people working in the environmental >> > protection area who are HW/StarTrek/Monster Magnet lovers. >> > I wonder how it is on this list? > As far as tv SF goes i'm with harlan ellison (who mite have vchanged his tune what with B5): "Star Wars is adolescent nonsense; Close Encounters is obscurantist drivel; Star Trek can turn your brains to puree of bat guano [and remember he hadn't even seen TNG or Voyager when he wrote this]; and the greatest science fiction series of all time is Doctor Who! And I'll take you all on, one-by-one or all in a bunch to back it up!" ObHW: it was michael moorcock who introduced ellison to dr who with the words "now be quiet and just watch" yeah monster magnet are pretty cool; tab 25 is a top lp and the enviroment? well i never learnt to drive for the obvious reasons and now regret it (stuck in derby surrounded by beautiful countryside that i can't get to); meanwhile, down the bottom of our garden we been coming up toadstools: looks like a biological war and the plants are winning the people arent even here anymore. andrew ObCD: ICU - now you know the score andrew andrew at deluminate.freeserve.co.uk From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jan 22 07:38:16 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:38:16 +0000 Subject: OFF: work and love of space... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Bart Brugmans writes >Hi there, > >I seem to meet more and more people working in the environmental >protection area who are HW/StarTrek/Monster Magnet lovers. >I wonder how it is on this list? If I see people dropping litter on the street, I'll follow them around going "Hallo! Excuse me, is this yours? You seem to have dropped your chip papers on the floor! There's a bin over there! Would you like me to put it in the bin for you?" Is that "environmental protection" or would that fall into the "street crazy" bracket? -- Jon From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Fri Jan 22 07:54:08 1999 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 07:54:08 -0500 Subject: Bedouin CD for trade Message-ID: Mike, I want it! RJ -----Original Message----- From: M Holmes To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Friday, January 22, 1999 6:20 AM Subject: Bedouin CD for trade >For reasons complex I now have an extra of Alan Davey's Bedouin CD for >sale or trade. > >1998 Bedouin (Also with Danny Thompson) > Rock Palace > Wadi Dhar > Passion is an Animal > Alhadan > Space Rock Cafe > One Moon Circles > Queen of the Night > Eyes in the Dark > Sand Devil > >Email me if interested.... > >FoFP From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Fri Jan 22 07:57:28 1999 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 07:57:28 -0500 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 21 Jan 1999 to 22 Jan 1999 Message-ID: >Thanks, but, which one has the extra tracks ??? I dunno. But you can cross reference it to cdnow, which lists the extra tracks. >I am considering upgrading the old video recorder to one which >can handle NTSC format. Dint know ya could do that... > >Does anyone have a track list for any of the above except for >LIS which I picked up at Virgin last week for 7.99UKP !! >It's not been popped out of the vid m/c for 5 days... Not readily available. Would have to watch them to get it... RJ > >Cheers, Mark. > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Please reply to mark at esparto.demon.co.uk >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Jan 22 08:20:30 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:20:30 -0500 Subject: OFF: work and love of space... Message-ID: >Bart Brugmans writes: > >> Hi there, >> >> I seem to meet more and more people working in the environmental >> protection area who are HW/StarTrek/Monster Magnet lovers. >> I wonder how it is on this list? > >Babylon 5 for me - there is no other! Ditto.... it ruined ST for me. B5 Call to Arms was great, can't wait for B5crusade.... ..... I work next door to an environmental agency that manages some stuff in the everglades (and have applied there a couple times to work there but nothing);.... does that count? ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jan 22 10:06:16 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:06:16 GMT Subject: Hawkwind: Fanzine update In-Reply-To: Bob Lennon's message of Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:17:54 EST Message-ID: Bob Lennon writes: Hiya Bob. Please add me to the list for distribution of this goodie and advise me of costs to the UK... Cheers Mike > hello hawkers: > Update on Hawk-U.S./Time & Space fanzine > Issue #7 is due out within days/a few weeks > I am currently having the fanzine printed as we type. > This issue will include a special Space Rock CD-R that will > feature all 13 bands that played at Strange Daze 98. > All tracks were recorded live at the event. > It comes with a nice color cover. > I'll give out more details in a few days as I get it ready for > mailing out. > please check my website for info in case you miss the next post. > Please do not send out postage for this issue as was usual in the past, > as I still am working out the costs involved in shipping it out. > As mentioned i will update this list and put news of release on the website > http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html > see ya > bob > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jan 22 10:11:58 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:11:58 GMT Subject: HW: Another Box? In-Reply-To: Mark Edmonds's message of Tue, 22 Dec 1998 13:28:00 GMT Message-ID: > From: Mark Edmonds > Date: 1998-12-22 13:28 > > Another CD Universe item of curiosity: > > "The Entire And Infinite... [3CD Box] $13.97" > > Anyone got any ideas about this one - I expect it to be yet another > repackaging of the repackaged stuff which seems to appear in a new version > every two weeks. Does anyone have a source for this item yet? Cheers FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jan 22 10:12:51 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:12:51 GMT Subject: Cool Edit Pro Message-ID: I'm planning to use Cool Edit Pro to copy LP to CD using a 'puter. Does anyone have any tips on this? (I don't have the manual) FoFP From jdacombe at CSC.COM Fri Jan 22 10:42:49 1999 From: jdacombe at CSC.COM (Jeremy Dacombe) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 15:42:49 +0000 Subject: HW Alan Davey CD Problem Message-ID: A while back I remember a discussion concerning corrosive CD labels on Bedouin CDs causing a problem over time. I am in the process of producing "home made CD's" of my band's own music (nothing to do with copying existing music or producing bootleg CDR's etc) and I have a concern over the above mentioned label issue. Can someone please advise me on which labels I should use/avoid & where I can buy them from. If using a pen is a safer alternative, then again, which type etc. Any info greatly appreciated. My private E-mail is JDACOMBE at CSC.COM if you prefer not to bore everybody with this. Cheers, Jez From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Fri Jan 22 12:44:54 1999 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:44:54 EST Subject: I Do like to be beside the seaside Message-ID: Just got a mailout from Vynil Addiction (E.Mail 101325.1414 at compuserve.Com) advertising a "New Hawkwind CD" called I Do like to be beside the seaside. Recorded live at Folkestone Leas Cliffe Hall 12.7.80 which claims to be good soundboard quality.Anyone Know anything about this...Is it an official release or what?..Is the quality really any good ?They included a track list...here it is if anyones interested...Shot down in the night,Urban Guerilla,The war,.(Possibly whose gonna stop the I suppose ??)..World of Tiers,Dust of Time,Docking port 111.....(???),NATI...(???),Lighthouse,Brainstorm,MOTV....(I,m guessing that this might be Master of the universe abbreviated and misspelt..Who can say???),Silver Machine,Levitation. If anyones never heard of Vynil Addiction out there,theyre pretty reliable,and have a fair sized Hawkwind list which occassionally carries some pretty obscure Items. their Snailmail is :PO Box 27 LLandysul SA 38 9YA Wales UK. From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Fri Jan 22 14:06:31 1999 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:06:31 -0600 Subject: I Do like to be beside the seaside Message-ID: > Just got a mailout from Vynil Addiction (E.Mail 101325.1414 at compuserve.Com) > advertising a "New Hawkwind CD" called I Do like to be beside the seaside. > Recorded live at Folkestone Leas Cliffe Hall 12.7.80 which claims to be good > soundboard quality.Anyone Know anything about this...Is it an official release > or what?..Is the quality really any good ?They included a track list...here it > is if anyones interested...Shot down in the night,Urban Guerilla,The > war,.(Possibly whose gonna stop the I suppose ??)..World of Tiers,Dust of > Time,Docking port > 111.....(???),NATI...(???),Lighthouse,Brainstorm,MOTV....(I,m guessing that > this might be Master of the universe abbreviated and misspelt..Who can > say???),Silver Machine,Levitation. Info on the concert from my concert database (http://www.enteract.com/~weil/golden_void/gigs/): Folkestone, Leas Cliff Hall, 1980, 07, 12, Sat BR/BA/LL/BL/KI (Brock, Bainbridge, Lloyd Langton, Blake, King) July 12, 1980 Brainstorm // Dust of Time // Intro // Levitation // Lighthouse // Master of the Universe // Motorway City // Prelude // Shot Down in the Night // Silver Machine // Space Chase // Spirit of the Age // Urban Guerilla // Waiting for Nati // Who's Gonna Win the War // World of Tiers Frank --- I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it. -- Groucho Marx ============================================================ Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jan 22 14:52:01 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:52:01 -0500 Subject: Cool Edit Pro In-Reply-To: <199901221512.PAA27545@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, M Holmes wrote: => I'm planning to use Cool Edit Pro to copy LP to CD using a 'puter. Does => anyone have any tips on this? (I don't have the manual) I dunno if this helps much, but here's a URL for information about transferring LPs to CD (advice, hints, tips, links, etc.): http://www.garage-a-records.com/lpcd.html I've used Cool Edit 96 to "clean up" the _Atomhenge 76_ CD-R, and it was pretty intuitive to use, so I don't think you'll have any problems. Cheers, Paul. NP: Spiritual Beggars, _Mantra III_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sat Jan 23 05:24:32 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:24:32 +0000 Subject: OFF: Bruce Dickinson Message-ID: On fre 22 jan 1999 04.15 +0000 "" wrote: > I've had Bruce Dickinson's "Chemical Wedding" for a couple weeks now, > and I just can't stop playing it! Very good. I recommend it, if > anyone cares : ) I saw one his recent live gigs and, though I'm not a Maiden fan, it _was_ bloody good. I'm still waiting to hear the album :) But it sounded like the kind of thing BOC *ought* to be doing ... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From nicad at CLARA.CO.UK Sat Jan 23 08:16:16 1999 From: nicad at CLARA.CO.UK (nick adams) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:16:16 -0000 Subject: Glastonbury 81 Message-ID: Hi Gang ! I have just got hold of a copy of Hawkwind at Glastonbury festival 81, there is some great stuff on it....the thing is it hasnt got any covers, would somone be so kind as to scan me the cover of this album and send it to me as a jpeg image, this would be much appreciated. Thanx in advance Nick From jedo at XS4ALL.NL Sat Jan 23 09:36:36 1999 From: jedo at XS4ALL.NL (Donald van den Akker) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:36:36 +0100 Subject: OFF: work and love of space... Message-ID: Hey Bart, I'm sure you will remember me... I Love environmental Space... At the moment I'm working as environmental policy officer for a municipality. Next to me is a guy who has a collection of about 1000 weird and rare 60's 70's vinyl records which he bought when he was 'young'... In a former job at a consultant agency on waste issues there was a guy who heard me playing HW on my computer. He was amazed because he was infected with the same virus as well! We both worked on the top floor of the building which turned into a space-floor. I also worked for the Tibetan Government in Exile in Dharamsala, India. As you all know HW supports the Tibetan Support Group in the UK. The ultimate space experience I had there: a 45 minute private interview with the Dalai Lama himself. I still don't know why HW didn't made the soundtrack for 'Seven Years in Tibet" :-))). Donald From Hawkfan at ZAROZINIA.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Jan 23 11:33:04 1999 From: Hawkfan at ZAROZINIA.DEMON.CO.UK (Dave) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:33:04 +0000 Subject: I Do like to be beside the seaside In-Reply-To: <72befb7a.36a8b916@aol.com> Message-ID: I got this mailout today. But there is one thing you forgot to mention that is it is a CDR and costs ?19.99 + post & packing and apparently limited to 50 copies. A bit pricey for a CDR or what ? I Ordered mine this morning. I Guess 'Sucker for Hawkwind' is written all over my face. Keep a hold Dave In article <72befb7a.36a8b916 at aol.com>, Al Ogilvy writes >Just got a mailout from Vynil Addiction (E.Mail 101325.1414 at compuserve.Com) >advertising a "New Hawkwind CD" called I Do like to be beside the seaside. >Recorded live at Folkestone Leas Cliffe Hall 12.7.80 which claims to be good >soundboard quality.Anyone Know anything about this...Is it an official release >or what?..Is the quality really any good ?They included a track list...here it >is if anyones interested...Shot down in the night,Urban Guerilla,The >war,.(Possibly whose gonna stop the I suppose ??)..World of Tiers,Dust of >Time,Docking port >111.....(???),NATI...(???),Lighthouse,Brainstorm,MOTV....(I,m guessing that >this might be Master of the universe abbreviated and misspelt..Who can >say???),Silver Machine,Levitation. > If anyones never heard of Vynil Addiction out there,theyre pretty >reliable,and have a fair sized Hawkwind list which occassionally carries some >pretty obscure Items. >their Snailmail is :PO Box 27 LLandysul SA 38 9YA Wales UK. -- Dave From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Jan 23 11:56:30 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:56:30 +0000 Subject: I Do like to be beside the seaside In-Reply-To: <199901221906.NAA09430@overlord.stc.comm.mot.com> Message-ID: In article <199901221906.NAA09430 at overlord.stc.comm.mot.com>, Frank Weil writes >Waiting for Nati Is this some ref. to Rizz? In which case. it was a fair wait, 15 + years. -- Jon ObCD Electric Sitar Headswirlers Vol.3 From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Jan 23 11:52:59 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 16:52:59 +0000 Subject: HW : Got me In Yer Area Message-ID: CdCellar as recommended on this list are great. Ordered from the US on Tuesday, arrived in London on Friday. Worked out at around seven and a half quid. Is it going to be seven and a half quid when it comes out in the UK? I think not! I also snagged a CYM while I was ordering as it was 5 1/2 quid. In the UK it has just gone down to 9.99 from 16 UKP! I'm glad at least we now have an alternative. -- Jon From corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET Sat Jan 23 15:22:32 1999 From: corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:22:32 -0500 Subject: HW : Got me In Yer Area Message-ID: I agree with Jon. I ordered IYA on Tues and it came to New York on Friday. Easy to use with secure credit card billing and shopping. Quite a resource, used it to get the first two volumes of 25 yrs on as well. Highly recommended IYA is interesting, I have had one full listening as of yet. Seems to be much retreaded themes and ideas. Not that this is unusual but I feel on a barely tiny slightly ity bitty bit like a bigger effort could have been made. So much for strong opinions. I am just about to listen to it again on my home stereo so we shall see what I think. Mike in Troy NY Jon Browne wrote: > CdCellar as recommended on this list are great. Ordered from the US on > Tuesday, arrived in London on Friday. Worked out at around seven and a > half quid. Is it going to be seven and a half quid when it comes out in > the UK? I think not! I also snagged a CYM while I was ordering as it was > 5 1/2 quid. In the UK it has just gone down to 9.99 from 16 UKP! > > I'm glad at least we now have an alternative. > -- > Jon From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Sat Jan 23 20:57:08 1999 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 20:57:08 -0500 Subject: Glastonbury 81 Message-ID: If you mean the Glastonbury Faire Album, the one with the Dead, Pete Townshend, I'll be glad to do it. Once I've tracked it down. RJ -----Original Message----- From: nick adams To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Saturday, January 23, 1999 8:31 AM Subject: Glastonbury 81 >Hi Gang ! > > I have just got hold of a copy of Hawkwind at Glastonbury festival 81, >there is some great stuff on it....the thing is it hasnt got any covers, >would somone be so kind as to scan me the cover of this album and send it to >me as a jpeg image, this would be much appreciated. > Thanx in advance > Nick From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Jan 23 22:58:08 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:58:08 +0800 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 21 Jan 1999 to 22 Jan 1999 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi there > Thanks, but, which one has the extra tracks ??? > I am considering upgrading the old video recorder to one which > can handle NTSC format. > > Does anyone have a track list for any of the above except for > LIS which I picked up at Virgin last week for 7.99UKP !! > It's not been popped out of the vid m/c for 5 days... > > Cheers, Mark. > Jettisoundz have their own web page which may assist in working out what is what. It's here:- http://www.visionary.co.uk/music/hawkwind.htm William From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Jan 23 23:05:36 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:05:36 +0800 Subject: OFF: work and love of space... In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990122123514.007ac3f0@pop.freeserve.net> Message-ID: > As far as tv SF goes i'm with harlan ellison (who mite have vchanged his > tune what with B5): > > "Star Wars is adolescent nonsense; Close Encounters is > obscurantist drivel; > Star Trek can turn your brains to puree of bat guano [and remember he > hadn't even seen TNG or Voyager when he wrote this]; and the greatest > science fiction series of all time is Doctor Who! And I'll take > you all on, > one-by-one or all in a bunch to back it up!" > I'm with you on that one. I only wish Doctor Who was brought back to TV. It does exist in various other formats at the moment via independent production companies, who are doing it in much the same way Hawkwind were giving themselves different names due to copyright. But a proper new series is what we need. Doctor Who has far more scope to offer than virtually any other SF production. > ObHW: it was michael moorcock who introduced ellison to dr who with the > words "now be quiet and just watch" > And it was rumoured at one stage that Hawkwind was going to do some instrumental music. The script editor at the time was a HW fan. William From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Jan 23 23:13:43 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:13:43 +0800 Subject: I Do like to be beside the seaside In-Reply-To: <72befb7a.36a8b916@aol.com> Message-ID: > Just got a mailout from Vynil Addiction (E.Mail > 101325.1414 at compuserve.Com) > advertising a "New Hawkwind CD" called I Do like to be beside the seaside. > Recorded live at Folkestone Leas Cliffe Hall 12.7.80 which claims > to be good > soundboard quality.Anyone Know anything about this...Is it an > official release > or what?..Is the quality really any good ?They included a track > list...here it > is if anyones interested...Shot down in the night,Urban Guerilla,The > war,.(Possibly whose gonna stop the I suppose ??)..World of Tiers,Dust of > Time,Docking port > 111.....(???),NATI...(???),Lighthouse,Brainstorm,MOTV....(I,m > guessing that > this might be Master of the universe abbreviated and misspelt..Who can > say???),Silver Machine,Levitation. It sounds to me like another version of the concert the Live 79 recording is from. I know there was another bootleg, which was apparantly not very good quality-wise. Whether this is the same one or not, I don't know? William From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun Jan 24 07:32:53 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 12:32:53 +0000 Subject: HW: Dr. Who Message-ID: On s?n 24 jan 1999 12.05 +0800 "William Duffy" wrote: > I only wish Doctor Who was brought back to TV. It > does exist in various other formats at the moment via independent production > companies, who are doing it in much the same way Hawkwind were giving > themselves different names due to copyright. But a proper new series is what > we need. Doctor Who has far more scope to offer than virtually any other SF > production. Yes, Dr. Who's ressurection is long overdue. The American attempt was terrible, but Paul McGann was great, IMO. They should hire him back on for a proper new BBC series. > And it was rumoured at one stage that Hawkwind was going to do some > instrumental music. The script editor at the time was a HW fan. I have long thought Hawkwind would do a *brilliant* cover of the Dr. Who theme. That is a tune which cries out to be turned into thundering space-rock. If I can ever get back to playing in a band I'd do it myself :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jan 24 09:49:06 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:49:06 +0000 Subject: OFF: work and love of space... In-Reply-To: <000a01be474e$cbc59f60$0f3e3bcb@xl5> Message-ID: >And it was rumoured at one stage that Hawkwind was going to do some >instrumental music. The script editor at the time was a HW fan. > WHAT?! Any more details on this? andrew From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jan 24 10:03:54 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:03:54 +0000 Subject: HW: Dr. Who In-Reply-To: <151785.3126169973@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: > Yes, Dr. Who's ressurection is long overdue. The American >attempt was terrible, but Paul McGann was great, IMO. They should >hire him back on for a proper new BBC series. yeah, i completely agree with you on this one, still if the bbc's happy spending its loot on bugs and crime traveller (don't start me on this one...) then, well i dunno. there*are* fairly confident rumours going around about a new joint-financed TVM in the pipeline, with latest rumour for a dr being played by the guy from Jonathan Creek... ObMusicIfNotHW: classic Who episode - Brain of Morbius, classic S London space punk band - Brain of Morbius, saw them at the Deptford Free Fest a couple of years ago and they were a great laugh, specially the guy running around holding some antlers to his head. andrew 'chap with wings: five rounds rapid' - the brigadier andrew andrew at deluminate.freeserve.co.uk From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Jan 24 11:35:22 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:35:22 +0800 Subject: OFF: work and love of space... In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990124144906.007a7190@pop.freeserve.net> Message-ID: > >And it was rumoured at one stage that Hawkwind was going to do some > >instrumental music. The script editor at the time was a HW fan. > > > > WHAT?! Any more details on this? > There was an article in a Doctor Who magazine some years back which said that the script writer of the time, Andrew Cartmel, wanted Hawkwind to do the music for a story called Battlefield, which has some visual similarities to the Live Chronicles video. I suspect he may have thought that too, and that it would have been ideal. It would certainly have been better than what they used in the end! I don't know if the band was actually approached. I suspect not, because I think they would have jumped at the chance. William From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Sun Jan 24 11:53:59 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:53:59 -0500 Subject: OFF: work and love of space... In-Reply-To: <000001be47b7$89f25560$083e3bcb@xl5> Message-ID: At 12:35 AM 1/25/99 +0800, you wrote: > >I don't know if the band was actually approached. I suspect not, because I >think they would have jumped at the chance. > Doctor Who meets the Warrior on the Edge of Time... now that would be a cool episode never to be made! Just think of it,It could take them to the Hall of the Mountain Grill, be involved in the Space Ritual, all sorts o' Wind related fun. Yeah... the Master gets a hold of an Orgone Accumulator, which threatens to destroy the space time continuum by disrupting the perormance of the space ritual one of the many things which keeps spacetime together, since it ain't a social integrator after all. Throw in the Hawklords and you got a good brew a bubblin' Listen to MC5's "High Time" it's good for you. Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Jan 24 11:56:35 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:56:35 +0800 Subject: OFF: work and love of space... In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990124115359.0068faf0@mail1.wizvax.net> Message-ID: > Doctor Who meets the Warrior on the Edge of Time... now that would be a > cool episode never to be made! Just think of it,It could take them to the > Hall of the Mountain Grill, be involved in the Space Ritual, all sorts o' > Wind related fun. Yeah... the Master gets a hold of an Orgone > Accumulator, > which threatens to destroy the space time continuum by disrupting the > perormance of the space ritual one of the many things which keeps > spacetime > together, since it ain't a social integrator after all. Throw in the > Hawklords and you got a good brew a bubblin' > And the Master wants to become Master Of The Universe!!! William From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Sun Jan 24 10:53:10 1999 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 02:53:10 +1100 Subject: OFF: work and love of space... Message-ID: William Duffy wrote: > And the Master wants to become Master Of The Universe!!! That would be from "Timelords on the Edge of Time", the I suppose... Could resurrect Butterworth's Death Generators, etc and make a good few episodes from it. - Max From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Jan 24 12:40:18 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 17:40:18 +0000 Subject: OFF: work and love of space... In-Reply-To: <36AB41E5.8057A669@uq.net.au> Message-ID: At 02:53 25/01/99 +1100, you wrote: >William Duffy wrote: > >> And the Master wants to become Master Of The Universe!!! > > That would be from "Timelords on the Edge of Time", the I suppose... > > Could resurrect Butterworth's Death Generators, etc and make a good >few episodes from it. In case of Sonic Screwdriver Attack on your district, follow these rules: If you are making love, stop it. The Dcotor's English and we don't do that sort of thing. Use your TARDIS, it is what it is for. Small companions may be placed in doomed spaceships with cybermen and got rid of. Do Not Panic hold on, aren't we heading for another HW/SF crossover here? The Hawks and Disaster Area headlining at the Free Roj Blake Benefit Festival? andrew andrew at deluminate.freeserve.co.uk From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Jan 24 13:00:03 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 02:00:03 +0800 Subject: OFF: work and love of space... In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990124174018.007ae250@pop.freeserve.net> Message-ID: > In case of Sonic Screwdriver Attack on your district, follow these rules: > > If you are making love, stop it. The Dcotor's English and we don't do that > sort of thing. > > Use your TARDIS, it is what it is for. > > Small companions may be placed in doomed spaceships with cybermen and got > rid of. > > Do Not Panic > > hold on, aren't we heading for another HW/SF crossover here? The Hawks and > Disaster Area headlining at the Free Roj Blake Benefit Festival? > Love it!!! William From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Jan 24 17:45:29 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 17:45:29 EST Subject: HW: More Sales on NGs Message-ID: Subject: === FS: HAWKWIND VINYL (some rare) === From: paul at kacz.freeserve.co.uk (Paul Kaczmarek) Date: Sat, Jan 23, 1999 13:09 EST Message-id: <36aa101e.25476231 at news.freeserve.net> I'm selling my Hawkwind records (but I've made sure they're all transferred to tape first). All are original UK releases. They were all bought new - all records and sleeves are in excellent condition and hardly played. Choose your masques (RCA) ?16 Zones (Flicknife) ?12 PXR5 (Charisma - no poster) ?10 Church of Hawkwind (RCA slightly damaged sleeve) ?18 Astounding sounds, amazing music (Charisma) ?10 Quark strangeness and charm (Charisma / white label) ?15 Warrior on the edge of time (UA /shield cover) ?18 Hall of mountain grill (UA) ?9 Roadhawks (UA) ?8 Doremi Fasol Latido (UA / silver foil sleeve, poster) ?16 In search of space (UA / cutout cover/log book) ?18 1st lp (Liberty) ?16 Stonehenge (Flicknife / double lp/ slight damage sleeve) ?15 Text of festivals (Illuminated / double lp) ?25 Space ritual (UA / double lp) ?17 Silver machine (45 - UA / ps) ?8 Urban guerrilla (45 - UA) ?8 Kings of speed (45 - UA) ?4 Kerb crawler (45 - UA) ?4 Back on the streets (45 - UA) ?4 Sonic attack (45 - UA /cloth sleeve) ?130 Psychedelic warlords (45 - UA) ?4 Hurry on sundown (45 - Liberty) ?65 Add ?1 in the UK for postage, ?2.00 if you're outside the UK (that includes insurance). If you want more than one, we'll sort out cheaper postage rates If you're interested, mail me. Thanks paul at kacz.freeserve.co.uk From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jan 25 05:23:07 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 10:23:07 +0000 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 23 Jan 1999 to 24 Jan 1999 In-Reply-To: <199901241000.FAA24767@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >From: Jon Browne >CdCellar as recommended on this list are great. Ordered from the US on >I'm glad at least we now have an alternative. On account of me being a lazy *** could you mail the URL ? >From: William Duffy >Jettisoundz have their own web page which may assist in working out what is >what. It's here:- http://www.visionary.co.uk/music/hawkwind.htm Thanks for that, but Nik has sent me a complete listing, let the shopping commence... And now, here's my contribution to the 'Green Issue'. I drive a car with only half an exhaust system ??? I work at a printers and generate about 40-50 trees worth of waste a week, mind you it does go for recycling !! Does it count that I share a shower with my female companion as often as possible. I do watch Bab5 when I get chance, I liked the original Star Trek, some of the newer stuff is passable, except Voyager which I find a little bit blehhhh most of the time. Here's another question, my mate has just bought a new vid which states it can play NTSC/PAL-Secam/VHS/SVHS etc, I haven't checked out his manual or anything, on the basis that he has one I thought I should go hunting, of course there is the option of having a unit sent over from the USofA and altering the power to 110v, does anybody have any experience of this, I vaguely remember someone offering to convert a tape on this list not too long ago. Work calls, I hear and avoid, Later guys, Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.demon.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Mon Jan 25 05:26:58 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:26:58 +1100 Subject: HW: IRC Message-ID: FYI ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: "john-david lucas" To: Subject: IRC Date sent: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 01:33:58 -0000 My wife and I started a IRC chat. for hawkwind/motorhead phreaks. its world accessible to any one with IRC. The server is Webmaster #HAWKWIND (all upper case) we put our souls into this. Its to bring those who wish to talk Music,earth and space with like minded folks. as well as any thing else. I have informed as many wide ranging hawksites (like your's) as possible. may peace be with you. your's; john-david lucas AKA CaptainZLough -- PO Box 884 Paul Ward Mt Waverley http://sonique.net VIC 3149 (time permitting) Mob:0418 524744 sonique at sonique.net From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jan 25 06:00:33 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:00:33 GMT Subject: OFF: work and love of space... In-Reply-To: Dave Berry's message of Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:24:24 +0000 Message-ID: Dave Berry writes: > At 12:13 22/01/99 -0000, Andy Gilham wrote: > >And my car won't run on unleaded petrol :) > > And you have "tested on animals" stickers on your bathroom goods? > > Dave. > > (Idea taken from "The Stone Canal", by Ken MacLeod. Anarchist SF; it > contains the best joke in SF, IMO. His first book, "The Star Fraction", is > even better, and lists a certain Mike Holmes among the credits). Even apart from the possibility I might be biased, I wholeheartedly recommend Ken's book (and it's two followups) to all readers of futurist SF. The book outlines a future wherein Britain is a balkanised state where each special interest group has it's own political ministate and is ruled by the New Hanoverian Government backed by a dictatorial UN. Research on bio-enhancement, smart drugs, and artificial intelligence is outlawed. Meanwhile a neo-socialist Scottish AI is planning revolution and may need the help of a streetwise gun for hire in the libertarian ministate of Northy London Town to settle some scores. Smart drugs, smart women and smart guns: the future is in a state. Or is it? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jan 25 06:09:47 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:09:47 GMT Subject: BOC-L Digest - 21 Jan 1999 to 22 Jan 1999 In-Reply-To: Mark P Lee's message of Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:30:48 +0000 Message-ID: Mark P Lee writes: > >#13.82 Chronicle Of The Black Sword JE297N > >#13.82 Hawkwind - Chaos JE287N > >#13.82 Hawkwind - Love In Space JE290N > >#13.00 Hawkwind-Chronicle Of The Black Sword JE297 > >#13.00 Hawkwind-Love In Space JE290 > >#13.00 Hawkwind-Night Of The Hawks JE123 > >#13.00 Solstice At Stonehenge 84 JE250 > > >#13.00 Hawkwind Chaos Tour 86 JE287 > Does anyone have a track list for any of the above? >From the discography: 6. Hawkvideo ------------ 1986 Blood And Bone [Nik Turner's Inner City Unit] [ need songlist ] 1987 Bristol Custom Bike Show (recorded live 20/6/86) Master of the Universe [just one Hawkwind track on this one] 1990 Video - Hawkwind 1979-1989 * Released by Hawkwind 1991. various shots from gigs * and parties over the last ten years. The quality is very * variable. World of Tiers 80 Lighthouse 79 Shot Down in the Night 81 Brainstorm 81 Silver Machine 82 Masters of the Universe 82 Choose Your Masks 82 Solitary Mind Games 82 waiting for Tomorrow 82 Masters of the Universe 83 Coded Languages 83 Ghost Attack (Jam) 83 Sonic Attack 83 Psi Power 84 Choose Your Masks 85 Elric Battle Sequence 85 Masters of the Universe 86 Assault and Battery 86 Assassins of Allah 86 Magnu 86 Angels of Death 86 Lost Chronicles 86 Needle Gun 86 Dream Worker 86 Assault and Battery 89 Golden Void 89 Treadmill 89 Levitation 89 Damnation Alley 89 Needle Gun 89 Brainstorm 89 Angels of Death 89 1983 Video - Live at Edinburgh Playhouse 1982 Choose Your Masks Coded Languages Magnu Waiting for Tomorrow Angels of Death Ghost Dance Psychedelic Warlords Social Alliance Utopia Arrival in Utopia Solitary Mind Games Sonic Attack Dream Worker Brainstorm Ejection Shot Down in the Night * Video quality is awful but the sound is good. * This was definitely the best Hawkwind gig I've * ever attended. - M.Holmes * Rest is separate gig - Hammersmith Odeon London?: Ejection Shot Down in the Night Masters of the Universe Waiting for Tomorrow Brainstorm 1992 Video - M.A.G. Festival 1983 Master of the Universe (rehearsal) Hassan I Sabha Dust of Time Waiting for Tomorrow Ghost Dance Psychedelic Warlords (Disappear in Smoke) Utopia 1984 Angels of Death Motorway City Silver Machine Brainstorm Ejection Shot Down in the Night Master of the Universe Sonic Attack Deathtrap Silver Machine 1984 Video - Stonehenge Festival 1984 recorded June 20-22 1984 Stonehenge * With Roy Harper and the Enid * This wasn't one of hawkwind's better gigs ;-) HW tracks: Ghost Dance Angels of Death Watching the Grass Grow Utopia Social Alliance Brainstorm 1985 Hawkon - Hawkwind Convention Various Interviews. [Live tracks featuring ex-members] Hurry On Sundown Mick's Blues Wild Thing They've Got Your Number Waiting For Tomorrow Brainbox Pollution You Shouldn't Do That The Rip-Off Blues Master of the Universe In The Mood 1985 Video - Chronicle of The Black Sword (Hammersmith Odeon 3-4 Dec) [2 versions - only 150 copies of original mail order copy issued] Song of the Swords Sea King Master of the Universe Choose Your Masques Needle Gun Zarozinia Brainstorm Elric & Moonglum Elric the Enchanter Magnu Horn of Destiny Coded Languages [CD-I copy only] Born To Go [CD-I copy only] Arrival In Utopia [CD-I copy only] Levitation [CD-I copy only] 1984 Video - Night of the Hawk (recorded Ipswich 9/3/84) Ghost Dance Watching the Grass Grow Dream Worker Ejection Uncle Sam's on Mars The Martian Disco Stomp Brainstorm Sonic Attack The Island Brainstorm Psi Power Silver machine 1986 Chaos Magnu Angels Of Death Assault And Battery Lost Chronicles Master Of The Universe Dreaming City Arrival In Utopia Brainstorm Sonic Attack Hassan I Sabha 1990 Live Legends (Nottingham) Lives of Great Men Void of Golden Light Out of the Shadows Night of the Hawks Back in the Box Utopia Ejection Damnation Alley Wind of Change 1989 Tregowrey Tree Fayre [running time 90 minutes] Brainstorm Down Through the Night Treadmill Time We Left Hassan I Sabha Lives of Great Men The Void of Golden Light Back in the Box Utopia You Know You're Only Dreaming Damnation Alley Needle gun Ejection Neon Skyline 1992 Bournemouth Academy 1990 Angels of Death Void of Golden Light Unknown track (Wishart narration) Acid House of Dreams You Shouldn't Do That (instrumental) Out of the Shadows Night of the Hawk Unknown Track (Wishart vocals) Back in the Box Arrival in Utopia Paranoia Images Hassan I Sabha Brainstorm Your Secret's Safe With me (Wishart vocals) Brainstorm (reprise) Ejection 1992 Hawkwind Promos Video Out of the Shadows Void of Golden Light Acid House of Dreams Images Treadmill Time We Left Heads Back in the Box Black Elk Speaks 1992 Hawkwind USA Tour 89/90 Assault & Battery The Golden Void Treadmill Interview (Brock & Bainbridge) Wind of Change Time We Left Heads Time We Left Needle Gun The Golden Void Ejection Brainstorm Your Secret's Safe With Me Brainstorm Wings Out of The Shadows Snake Dance Night of the Hawk Eons TV Suicide Blue Shift Back in the Box Hassan I Sabha Images Reefer Madness 1992 Sonic Attack Tour '81 Angel Voices Motorway City Angels of Death PSI Power Coded Languages The Golden Void Magnu Dust of Time Psychedelic Warlords Rocky Paths Psychosonia Shot Down in the Night Sonic Attack Brainstorm Silver Machine Master of the Universe Brixton Academy 15/8/92 Out of the Shadows Right To Decide Seven By Seven Spirit of the Age The Iron Dream Secret Agent Hassan I Sabha The Golden Void L.S.D Blue Shift Brainstorm Time We Left Master of the Universe Welcome to the Future Solstice at Stonehenge 1984 [Ambient - 60 mins] Stonehenge Decoded Ghost Dance Watching the Grass Grow Utopia 1984 Social Alliance Uncle Sam's On Mars Sonic Attack The Right Stuff Dawn in the Morning Derby Custom Bike Show 31/7/93 Brainstorm The Camera That Could Lie Welcome To The Future LSD Springfield 8/4/95 Master of the Universe You Shouldn't Do That The Golden Void Death Trap Wastelands Are You Losing Your Mind? Hassan I Sabha Space Is Their Palestine Wave Upon Wave Robot Elfin Alien (I Am) Urban Guerilla Silver Machine LSD Bochum 26/10/95 (90 mins) Abducted Deathtrap Wastelands Iron Dream Photo Encounter Blue Skin Golden Void Sputnik Stan Robot Alien I Am Xenomorph Vega Love In Space Kapal Lord Of Light Elfin Silver Machine Welcome Hassan I Sahba Space Is Their Hassan I Sahba (cut) VH-1 Show 1996 Silver Machine Love In Space Love In Space Abducted Death Trap Wastelands Are You Losing Your Mind? Photo Encounter Blue Skin Sputnik Stan Robot Alien I Am Xenomorph Vega Love In Space Kapal Elfin Silver Machine Welcome Assassins of Allah From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Jan 25 06:17:11 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:17:11 +0000 Subject: OFF: work and love of space... Message-ID: On m?n 25 jan 1999 11.00 +0000 "M Holmes" wrote: > The book outlines a future wherein Britain is a balkanised state where > each special interest group has it's own political ministate and is > ruled by the New Hanoverian Government backed by a dictatorial UN. > Research on bio-enhancement, smart drugs, and artificial intelligence is > outlawed. Meanwhile a neo-socialist Scottish AI is planning revolution > and may need the help of a streetwise gun for hire in the libertarian > ministate of Northy London Town to settle some scores. Damnit, it's arrestingly similar to the the setting I planned for a novel I hope to develop from one fo my old short stories about a near-future rock band (perhaps somewhat inspired by certain bands known to this list ;) It was going to be set in a Britain dominated by yer standard industrial cartels and dictatorial governments who wanted you all loyal to them, stupid and complacent, or dead. Our heroes would fight to save the world, etc. (and rescue it from canned pop music, of course ;) Not very deep, but I can't stand deep stuff as entertainment :) Sounds like I should read MacLeod's book though! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jan 25 06:19:23 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:19:23 GMT Subject: OFF: B5 Crusade In-Reply-To: Andrew A. Apold's message of Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:20:30 -0500 Message-ID: Andrew A. Apold writes: > >Babylon 5 for me - there is no other! > > Ditto.... it ruined ST for me. > > B5 Call to Arms was great, can't wait for B5crusade.... I was lucky to catch this while in California. The only thing that bothers me was the setting up of a 5 year mission with a one of a kind spacecraft. That's a bit too ST/Voyager I think. However, I'm sure there's a possibility for more interesting plotlines inside the main concept. They appear to have set things up so that Lyta and G'Kar, and Lennir could easily make guest appearances (indeed the Lennir plotline still has to be settled according to the Ghost Morden's prediction). I suspect that the Doc will also guest as a bio researcher on Earth. Other quibbles: We've bypassed the Psi Wars. I hope that this appears in a film. JMS seems to be setting up the Shasow/Vorlon mythos again only with the Drahk/Technomages in the god slots. I was dissapointed not to see Sinclair/Valen return in an episode of B5 (as is told by Minbari prophecy and ritual of keeping a place for him). It'd be reasonably easy for Valen to have kept himself in suspended animation for 1000 years. What I'd really like to see is a film of Valen/Zathras/Catherine in B4 and his subsequent return to the future. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jan 25 06:20:51 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:20:51 GMT Subject: Glastonbury 81 In-Reply-To: nick adams's message of Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:16:16 -0000 Message-ID: nick adams writes: > Hi Gang ! > > I have just got hold of a copy of Hawkwind at Glastonbury festival 81, > there is some great stuff on it....the thing is it hasnt got any covers, > would somone be so kind as to scan me the cover of this album and send it to > me as a jpeg image, this would be much appreciated. Errrr, what album? FoFP From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Mon Jan 25 06:28:59 1999 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:28:59 +1100 Subject: OFF: Can I Cope? Message-ID: Howdy all, Just picked up a nice CD by Julian Cope, "Interpreter" - the song which was as clincher, as far as my decision to purchase it was "s.p.a.c.e.r.o.c.k. with me", amongst others. Some impressive stuff on there - he has very Gong hippy philosophy at points, but very good none the less. My question is - is his other stuff like this album? Is it any good, etc., etc.? Thanks... - Max From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jan 25 07:58:04 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 12:58:04 +0000 Subject: OFF: Can I Cope? In-Reply-To: <36AC557A.2AB92588@uq.net.au> Message-ID: In article <36AC557A.2AB92588 at uq.net.au>, Max Wilcox writes >Howdy all, > > Just picked up a nice CD by Julian Cope, "Interpreter" - the song >which was as clincher, as far as my decision to purchase it was >"s.p.a.c.e.r.o.c.k. with me", amongst others. Some impressive stuff on there - >he >has very Gong hippy philosophy at points, but very good none the less. > My question is - is his other stuff like this album? Is it any good, >etc., etc.? > Thanks... > >- Max No, this is a weak effort by Copey's standards. If you like this you're going to *luuurv* his other stuff. Seriously. Go get Peggy Suicide, then Jehovahkill. Then come back and ask for more :) He's doing a spoken word show at Dingwall's tonight, if you're interested. Buy his Modern Antiquarian book, too. He's doesn't just wibble hippie fluff. He produces gloriously produced tomes of sterling-ly researched groundbreakingly important hippie fluff. with lots of nice pictures. -- Jon From mordru at FLITE.NET Mon Jan 25 08:37:28 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 08:37:28 -0500 Subject: OFF: B5 Crusade Message-ID: >Andrew A. Apold writes: > >> >Babylon 5 for me - there is no other! >> >> Ditto.... it ruined ST for me. >> >> B5 Call to Arms was great, can't wait for B5crusade.... minor "feel" spoilers precaution space >I was lucky to catch this while in California. The only thing that >bothers me was the setting up of a 5 year mission with a one of a kind >spacecraft. That's a bit too ST/Voyager I think. However, I'm sure >there's a possibility for more interesting plotlines inside the main >concept. One would hope so. >They appear to have set things up so that Lyta and G'Kar, and Lennir >could easily make guest appearances (indeed the Lennir plotline still >has to be settled according to the Ghost Morden's prediction). I suspect >that the Doc will also guest as a bio researcher on Earth. Right, there's no reason episodes can't show stuff elsewhere... ' >We've bypassed the Psi Wars. I hope that this appears in a film. There will be a teep on the ship... presumably the ship will be able to communicate with earth... >JMS seems to be setting up the Shasow/Vorlon mythos again only with the >Drahk/Technomages in the god slots. Don't think it'll fall the same way. If I had to take a guess right now, I'd say that most of the Technomages will go down in flames as a result of Galen's actions, with of course Galen surviving since he's not there. The Drahk.... they still can't match up with the Shadows for menace, they seem to be a poor man's shadow but they're working hard to be worthy of a more nefarious status... >I was dissapointed not to see Sinclair/Valen return in an episode of B5 >(as is told by Minbari prophecy and ritual of keeping a place for him). >It'd be reasonably easy for Valen to have kept himself in suspended >animation for 1000 years. What I'd really like to see is a film of >Valen/Zathras/Catherine in B4 and his subsequent return to the future. Any way they can work Zathras back into the plot is a plus. I'm sure the Great Machine could accomplish what is needed, and might be a logical place for the ship to visit, as it could investigate several possibilities before even going places... Generally to me, most of the films have been a dissapointment compared to the show. In The Beginning was good, as was Call To Arms (though the music is taking a pounding in most reviews..... jms says to give the new guy a chance, I guess he deserves the benefit of the doubt for awhile), the rest were uneven. ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK Mon Jan 25 08:41:00 1999 From: edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:41:00 GMT Subject: BOC-L Digest - 21 Jan Message-ID: From: Mark Edmonds Date: 1999-01-25 13:41 >>From the discography: >6. Hawkvideo > ------------ >1990 Video - Hawkwind 1979-1989 > * Released by Hawkwind 1991. various shots from gigs > * and parties over the last ten years. The quality is very > * variable. >1983 Video - Live at Edinburgh Playhouse 1982 >1992 Video - M.A.G. Festival 1983 >1985 Hawkon - Hawkwind Convention >1989 Tregowrey Tree Fayre >1992 Bournemouth Academy 1990 >1992 Hawkwind Promos Video >1992 Hawkwind USA Tour 89/90 >1992 Sonic Attack Tour '81 >Brixton Academy 15/8/92 >Derby Custom Bike Show 31/7/93 >Springfield 8/4/95 >Bochum 26/10/95 (90 mins) >VH-1 Show 1996 I don't know who posted the above video list but having fallen off the back of my chair and having muttered in my best John Hurt voice "What the HELL is this?", I desperately need to know how on earth I get hold of these videos. I have never seen any in any record store. Please please please can someone point me in the right direction. God, what a surreal experience - veins bursting after an onion overdose and now I find out about all these Hawkwind videos. Any help on this gratefully received, Thanks, Mark From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Mon Jan 25 09:07:36 1999 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:07:36 +0100 Subject: AW: BOC-L Digest - 21 Jan Message-ID: Hi Mark >I have never seen any in any record store. Please please please can someone >point me in the right direction. >God, what a surreal experience - veins bursting after an onion overdose and >now I find out about all these Hawkwind videos. >Any help on this gratefully received, These are only a few videos which exist. If you need the complete list (more than 50 videos), just drop me a line. Bernhard (bernhard.pospiech at home.ins.de) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jan 25 10:36:23 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:36:23 GMT Subject: BOC-L Digest - 21 Jan In-Reply-To: Mark Edmonds's message of Mon, 25 Jan 1999 13:41:00 GMT Message-ID: Mark Edmonds writes: > From: Mark Edmonds > Date: 1999-01-25 13:41 > > >From the discography: > >6. Hawkvideo > > ------------ [List of videos....] > I don't know who posted the above video list but having fallen off the back > of my chair and having muttered in my best John Hurt voice "What the HELL is > this?", I desperately need to know how on earth I get hold of these videos. > I have never seen any in any record store. Please please please can someone > point me in the right direction. Hawkwind Merchandising themselves will distribute these: > >1990 Video - Hawkwind 1979-1989 > > * Released by Hawkwind 1991. various shots from gigs > > * and parties over the last ten years. The quality is very > > * variable. > >1983 Video - Live at Edinburgh Playhouse 1982 > >1989 Tregowrey Tree Fayre > >1992 Bournemouth Academy 1990 > >1992 Hawkwind Promos Video > >1992 Hawkwind USA Tour 89/90 > >1992 Sonic Attack Tour '81 These were the Motorcycloe Action Group ones (you could drop 'em a line and ask): > >1992 Video - M.A.G. Festival 1983 > >Derby Custom Bike Show 31/7/93 The following are around on the Fan network. I'm not aware that there are official releases of 'em: > >Brixton Academy 15/8/92 > >Springfield 8/4/95 > >Bochum 26/10/95 (90 mins) > >VH-1 Show 1996 > >1985 Hawkon - Hawkwind Convention > Mark FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jan 25 11:11:31 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:11:31 GMT Subject: Glastonbury 81 In-Reply-To: nick adams's message of Sat, 23 Jan 1999 13:16:16 -0000 Message-ID: nick adams writes: > Hi Gang ! > > I have just got hold of a copy of Hawkwind at Glastonbury festival 81, > there is some great stuff on it....the thing is it hasnt got any > covers, I'm curious as to what you have here. I'd thought that the only official release from that gig was the CND cassette release (with a black and white cover). I was unaware of any vinyl. Is it possible that you have one of the Stonehenge albums? If you email the tracklist I'll let you know and I'd be able to copy the cover for you. > Nick FoFP From edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK Mon Jan 25 09:17:00 1999 From: edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:17:00 GMT Subject: OFF: Can I Cope? Message-ID: From: Mark Edmonds Date: 1999-01-25 14:17 >Howdy all, > Just picked up a nice CD by Julian Cope, "Interpreter" ... > My question is - is his other stuff like this album? Is it any good, >etc., etc.? > Thanks... > - Max I don't have Interpreter which makes my answer a little invalid but I do have Fried, Saint Julian, My Nation Underground and Peggy Suicide as well as a few singles. Basically, its really good stuff with Saint Julian and Peggy Suicide being my faves. Its difficult to draw comparisons with other groups but I suppose bits are Gongish and there are some nice atmospheric touches and unusual instrumentation. See if you can borrow Saint Julian or Peggy Suicide from a library... Hope this helps (probably not though) Mark From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jan 25 13:28:11 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:28:11 GMT Subject: labels for CDs Message-ID: Following up Jeremy Dacombe's request - someone sent a mail here about how to tell the difference between good labels that you can safely put on CDRs and the bad labels that munch their way through plastic digesting bits of data as they go. I didn't pay attention to it at the time but it seems sorta useful to know now! Do these come in packets and is it made clear on the packet which you can use safely? Better mail me direct rather than clutter the list with off topics! ta jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Jan 25 13:32:32 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:32:32 GMT Subject: HW: Elf and Hawk Message-ID: Anyone else got this? Mine came through the other day - nice to have everything on CD at last. Didn't realise there was a 2x12" as well so I've had to order that too! cheers jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Jan 25 15:33:20 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:33:20 +0000 Subject: HW: Elf and Hawk Message-ID: On m?n 25 jan 1999 18.32 +0000 "J Strobridge" wrote: > Anyone else got this? Mine came through the other day - nice to have > everything on CD at last. Didn't realise there was a 2x12" as well so > I've had to order that too! Where ordered from? Henrik? -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jan 25 16:09:58 1999 From: brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:09:58 -0000 Subject: HW: In your Area In-Reply-To: <199901251000.FAA02912@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: > Hi Everybody, I have just received the new CD which I think is wonderful the highlights for me are definitely the new Brainstorm, Your Fantasy, and a rather nice instrumental which I am having difficulty working out the title of owing to the track numbers not matching.( I think it Prairie) Like the Cover. I am a bit disappointed that the version of Love in Space is so short hopefully the full version will be on Hawkwind 97. Listening to Rizz who I very much like, set me to wondering does he have a second album available? From abrevard at SHL.COM Mon Jan 25 17:27:59 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 14:27:59 -0800 Subject: Where B the OC? Message-ID: Ahem... Whatever happened to that band from Long Island, Blue Oyster Cult? No one ever talks about them anymore. Anyone going to see the show at Jaxx, Springfield, VA this weekend? I'll be on the road so hopefully they'll be back this fall. L8er Ghost in the Ruins Five in the Player Savatage - Sirens, Dungeons Are Calling, Fight for the Rock Monster Magnet - Powertrip, Dopes to Infinity From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Mon Jan 25 17:57:11 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:57:11 -0000 Subject: HW: In your Area Message-ID: "I Can See Clearly Now My Brain Has Gone" CDRIZZUR2 Topp Rizz Records I don't have a current (more recent than 2 or 3 years old) address for the band. I got mine from a stall at one of Trev Hughes' comic marts. It's not bad but, I prefer the first one. Nick -----Original Message----- From: Brian Coulthard To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 25 January 1999 21:18 Subject: HW: In your Area >> Hi Everybody, > I have just received the new CD which I think is wonderful >the highlights for me are definitely the new Brainstorm, Your Fantasy, and a >rather nice instrumental which I am having difficulty working out the title >of owing to the track numbers not matching.( I think it Prairie) Like the >Cover. >I am a bit disappointed that the version of Love in Space is so short >hopefully the full version will be on Hawkwind 97. >Listening to Rizz who I very much like, set me to wondering does he have a >second album available? From ted at ALGER.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Jan 25 18:40:19 1999 From: ted at ALGER.DEMON.CO.UK (Ted) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:40:19 +0000 Subject: BOC: Where B the OC? In-Reply-To: <199901252252.PAA22046@docws002.shl.com> Message-ID: ahh..... if ONLY I could see them this weekend......... but I guess I missed the UK appearance a while back...... not that they'd probably play any shows in Yorkshire..... have a fun trip Ghost...... Ted >Ahem... > >Whatever happened to that band from Long Island, Blue Oyster Cult? No one >ever talks about them anymore. Anyone going to see the show at Jaxx, >Springfield, VA this weekend? I'll be on the road so hopefully they'll be >back this fall. > >L8er >Ghost in the Ruins > >Five in the Player > >Savatage - Sirens, Dungeons Are Calling, Fight for the Rock >Monster Magnet - Powertrip, Dopes to Infinity From flossbac at NLCI.COM Mon Jan 25 18:39:22 1999 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (John Majka) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 18:39:22 -0500 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions In-Reply-To: <000001be48a7$107390a0$5c25883e@default> Message-ID: Well my copy of In Your Area arrived in the mail today and I was pleased with the packaging....it's a fine-looking multi-colored affair....very psychedelic. Unfortunately, the music can't really stand up to the packaging, and I feel very sad saying that. The overall impression I get from this album is "Recycled." It is as though the band has been split into two camps....I imagine our hero Dave Brock sitting at home, doing a few light solo projects entirely on his own, while Ron and Jerry and Richard (and Captain Rizz?) are off someplace else, writing their own stuff. It is as though Dave and the rest of the band don't really communicate..... This album is basically a bunch of live tracks from the 1997 tour, but even these live tunes aren't all that exciting. The version of Brainstorm has that obligatory reggae part that they've been playing since 1989....I guess I've just heard it too many times, at too many live shows and on too many albums. You would think in the past ten years, if they wanted to do a reggae part, they would write a new reggae part instead of using the same one....Aerospaceage Inferno is extremely cool on all the tour bootlegs, but this one is merely OK and seems pretty lackluster. The second half of the album is studio stuff, but don't get the idea that it's entirely new. "First Landing on Medusa" is basically Brock reading Calvert's "The Awakening" to some backing synths that don't really contribute all that much to the overall effect. "The Nazca" is a one-minute atmosphere piece with a few spoken words--it's nice, but then again it's not a big deal at only one minute. "Hippy" is a song that I'm not sure should be on a Hawkwind album....Brock wasn't involved with this one at all, and it shows. It sounds extremely un-Hawkwind like with its folky guitar trills. "Prairie"? Did I miss something? Another one of those newer Hawkwind instrumental pieces which sort of just sounds like noodling....not very exciting. "Your Fantasy" is basically the music to "Heads" with Rizz adding some words. "Luxotica" and "Diana Park" are two more noodly instrumentals that sound like the sort of thing every amateur musician with a computer produces at home on the weekends....it's just not worthy of hawkwind.... Sorry to sound so down on this release, but listening to it really bummed me out. I don't think this album will be winning any new converts. It may in fact turn quite a few off of the band. Unquestionably the weakest Hawkwind release ever....and to think that this is an "official" album! If it were an odds and ends collection, I wouldn't mind so much....but I hope this album doesn't represent a general trend in the band. John Majka flossbac at nlci.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jan 25 20:12:40 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:12:40 -0500 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions Message-ID: John says... >The overall impression I get from this album is "Recycled." Well, yeah, the live half is old tracks, so that's a pretty good start to the 'recycled' label right there. OK, the lyrics to Medusa we've heard before of course, and 'I am the Reptoid' is just a further development to part of Reptoid Vision. But it's not like Hawkwind hasn't done this before many times (not that that is any justification necessarily), and I don't think anyone is billing IYA as an all-new album or anything. Rather, we all consider it to fall into the 'Zones', 'Out & Intake', 'Palace Springs' category. Don't we?? So let's think of it in those terms shall we? (I think it's better than the first two, and weaker than 'PS'.) Hopefully, the *real* new album is still in progress. >It is as though the band has been split >into two camps....I imagine our hero Dave Brock sitting at home, doing a >few light solo projects entirely on his own, while Ron and Jerry and >Richard (and Captain Rizz?) are off someplace else, writing their own >stuff. It is as though Dave and the rest of the band don't really >communicate..... I don't have any problem with this whatsoever, in fact, perhaps it would be good. Up until they get into the studio, of course. >You would think in the past ten years, if they wanted to do a >reggae part (for Brainstorm), they would write a new reggae part instead of >using the same one. Is it really the same? Rizz+ certainly hasn't been around since 1989. And although they've always done a reggae bit somewhere in their live sets, it seems to me that they move it from song to song occasionally, and then it can't be *exactly* the same. But anyway, how many bands really change their versions of classic songs *at all*? HW changes their live versions of songs far more than *any* other band I know. Remember the a cappella-opening version of Brainstorm from the mid-80s? That was sure different (I liked that one.) >"Hippy" is a song that I'm not sure should be on a >Hawkwind album....Brock wasn't involved with this one at all Huh?? If anyone is being tagged for the 'laziness' and 'recycled' image of Hawkwind in recent years (right or wrong), it would be Brock, and now you don't like it when he doesn't contribute to all the songs as co-writer? Brock didn't write Spiral Galaxy 28948 either, you know. >and it shows. Well, I totally disagree with that. In fact, "Hippy" is nearly the sole reason for having this (other than the live set, which I've already heard (virtually) on live tapes or in person). I'd put this song right up there with LSD, Mask of Morning, Alien (I Am), and Treadmill as the future classics of 'late-period' Hawkwind. And 'Wheels' and 'Alchemy' were the stronger tracks (IMHO) on DH, so I'm all for Richards & Tree compositions. That is, if Dave is content to do the 'atmospheric' bits these days. >I don't think this album will be winning any new converts. Granted. >It may in fact turn quite a few off of the band. I don't think so...those who aren't knowledgable about HW won't see this as (partly) repetetive or unnecessary. And it's pretty decent material given that. Certainly a hell of a lot better than 'Acid Daze' or 'Yuri Gagarin' as an introduction to the band. >Unquestionably the weakest Hawkwind release ever....and to think that this >is an "official" album! If it were an odds and ends collection, I wouldn't >mind so much *I* consider it (equivalent to) an odds & ends collection, or maybe more like two random EPs combined on to one CD. And it's far from their weakest release ever, depending on how 'official' official is. I think you're expecting too much, given what this is, i.e., *not* the followup studio release to DH. >....but I hope this album doesn't represent a general trend in the band. No, it can't be...they've done this many times in the past to be a trend. You can gripe about that issue certainly! But by now, it's a matter of 'Fool me once...' - you know the rest. Keith H. (FAA) From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jan 25 20:53:34 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 01:53:34 +0000 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions In-Reply-To: <199901260121.UAA24319@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: >that. Certainly a hell of a lot better than 'Acid Daze' or 'Yuri Gagarin' as >an introduction to the band. >Keith H. (FAA) i always think that in the egg is going to win folks over. Never does and i still can't work out why. andrew andrew at deluminate.freeserve.co.uk From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Jan 25 21:07:27 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:07:27 -0500 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions Message-ID: Andrew says... >>that. Certainly a hell of a lot better than 'Acid Daze' or 'Yuri Gagarin' >>as an introduction to the band. >>Keith H. (FAA) > > i always think that in the egg is going to win folks over. Never >does and i still can't work out why. Can't hear it?? Keith H. (FAA) ObCD: Mooseheart Faith - Global Brain From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Jan 25 21:52:01 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 02:52:01 +0000 Subject: Where B the OC? Message-ID: On m?n 25 jan 1999 14.27 -0800 "BREVARD, Adrian R." wrote: > Whatever happened to that band from Long Island, Blue Oyster Cult? No one > ever talks about them anymore. Well, I'm waiting for the new album :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Jan 25 21:58:38 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 02:58:38 +0000 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions Message-ID: On m?n 25 jan 1999 18.39 -0500 "John Majka" wrote: > Unquestionably the weakest Hawkwind release ever.... An impressive statement, considering Hawkwind have managed some impressive prat-falls in the past! ;) Well, I have to say that descriptions I've heard have _not_ prompted me to order it in from the States, though I'll doubtless pick it up once I'm back there. I get the feeling that it won't do that much for me :/ Still, good to see that Hawkfan traditions are alive--some people have praised it, some people have panned it. Proves its genuine at least ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Jan 25 22:00:30 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 03:00:30 +0000 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions Message-ID: On m?n 25 jan 1999 20.12 -0500 "Keith Henderson" wrote: > Rather, we all > consider it to fall into the 'Zones', 'Out & Intake', 'Palace Springs' > category. Don't we?? So let's think of it in those terms shall we? (I > think it's better than the first two, and weaker than 'PS'.) Yeah, but Palace Springs is one of my favorite Hawkwind albums! (well, barring the dodgy "Acid Test" track! :) I thought bits of O&I were quite good as well. -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Jan 25 22:02:13 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 03:02:13 +0000 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions Message-ID: I dunno ... the Acid Daze LPs were among the first HW albums I had (at that time in the States, you took what you could get!) and accepting that it was a dodgy compilation, there were bits of it which were really cool. -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Jan 25 22:03:52 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 03:03:52 +0000 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions In-Reply-To: <199901260215.VAA08947@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: >> i always think that in the egg is going to win folks over. Never >>does and i still can't work out why. > >Can't hear it?? > >Keith H. (FAA) > Aah, that'll be right then Ted andrew (nearly finished marking these feckin assignments) From flossbac at NLCI.COM Mon Jan 25 23:29:46 1999 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (John Majka) Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:29:46 -0500 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions In-Reply-To: <1281911.3126308430@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 03:00 AM 1/26/99 +0000, you wrote: >On m?n 25 jan 1999 20.12 -0500 "Keith Henderson" >wrote: >> Rather, we all >> consider it to fall into the 'Zones', 'Out & Intake', 'Palace Springs' >> category. Don't we?? So let's think of it in those terms shall we? (I >> think it's better than the first two, and weaker than 'PS'.) > > Yeah, but Palace Springs is one of my favorite Hawkwind albums! >(well, barring the dodgy "Acid Test" track! :) I thought bits of >O&I were quite good as well. >Carl Edlund Anderson Yes, Palace Springs is usually among my top three Hawkwind albums! John Majka flossbac at nlci.com From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Jan 26 00:36:19 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:36:19 -0500 Subject: Where B the OC? In-Reply-To: <1251267.3126307921@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 02:52 AM 1/26/99 +0000, you wrote: >On m?n 25 jan 1999 14.27 -0800 "BREVARD, Adrian R." >wrote: >> Whatever happened to that band from Long Island, Blue Oyster Cult? No one >> ever talks about them anymore. > > Well, I'm waiting for the new album :) Whatever happened to the King Biscuit album? ============================= "All praise, he's found the awful truth, Balthazar... He's found the saucer news!" - E.T.I. by Blue ?yster Cult -AAA From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Jan 26 00:55:13 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:55:13 -0500 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990126015334.0079d7f0@pop.freeserve.net> Message-ID: At 01:53 AM 1/26/99 +0000, you wrote: >>that. Certainly a hell of a lot better than 'Acid Daze' or 'Yuri Gagarin' as >>an introduction to the band. >>Keith H. (FAA) > > i always think that in the egg is going to win folks over. Never >does and i still can't work out why. Weird. I keep trying to use "Little Black Egg" to win people over to ICU, and that never seems to work either. ============================= "All praise, he's found the awful truth, Balthazar... He's found the saucer news!" - E.T.I. by Blue ?yster Cult -AAA From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Jan 26 01:36:01 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 14:36:01 +0800 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990125183922.0079dc30@nlci.com> Message-ID: > "First Landing on Medusa" is basically Brock reading Calvert's "The > Awakening" to some backing synths that don't really contribute all that > much to the overall effect. "The Nazca" is a one-minute atmosphere piece > with a few spoken words--it's nice, but then again it's not a big deal at > only one minute. "Hippy" is a song that I'm not sure should be on a > Hawkwind album....Brock wasn't involved with this one at all, and > it shows. Brock is on this track. the only track he is not on is "Prarie", which is more like a Yes instrumental. > It sounds extremely un-Hawkwind like with its folky guitar trills. > "Prairie"? Did I miss something? Another one of those newer Hawkwind > instrumental pieces which sort of just sounds like noodling....not very > exciting. "Your Fantasy" is basically the music to "Heads" with Rizz > adding some words. There's some other tunes in there too, such as "Zarozinia". "Luxotica" and "Diana Park" are two more noodly > instrumentals that sound like the sort of thing every amateur > musician with > a computer produces at home on the weekends....it's just not worthy of > hawkwind.... > > Sorry to sound so down on this release, but listening to it really bummed > me out. I don't think this album will be winning any new > converts. It may > in fact turn quite a few off of the band. Unquestionably the weakest > Hawkwind release ever....and to think that this is an "official" > album! I disagree with that. This album, although no great classic, is far better than most of their recent material, particularly their last one, which to me sounded like an album of tracks that were never finished. there is much more variety on this album, and I think it might open doors to new fans. It has already made a new fan with a friend of mine! William From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Tue Jan 26 01:33:31 1999 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:33:31 -0600 Subject: Where B the OC? Message-ID: "BREVARD, Adrian R." wrote: > > Ahem... > > Whatever happened to that band from Long Island, Blue Oyster Cult? No one > ever talks about them anymore. Anyone going to see the show at Jaxx, > Springfield, VA this weekend? I'll be on the road so hopefully they'll be > back this fall. > > L8er > Ghost in the Ruins > > Five in the Player > > Savatage - Sirens, Dungeons Are Calling, Fight for the Rock > Monster Magnet - Powertrip, Dopes to Infinity I'm hoping they will tour mid Canada, hell I would see them if they played anywhere in the upper states, North Dakota would be fine. But it seems they usually play the east coast, lower states, and west coast, if I didn't know any better I would say they were avoiding me ;-). Well they did play Alberta last year, so I'm hoping they will again this year too. Laj. From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Tue Jan 26 01:39:00 1999 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:39:00 -0600 Subject: Where B the OC? Message-ID: Andrew Apold wrote: > > At 02:52 AM 1/26/99 +0000, you wrote: > >On m?n 25 jan 1999 14.27 -0800 "BREVARD, Adrian R." > >wrote: > >> Whatever happened to that band from Long Island, Blue Oyster Cult? No one > >> ever talks about them anymore. > > > > Well, I'm waiting for the new album :) > > Whatever happened to the King Biscuit album? > > ============================= > "All praise, he's found > the awful truth, Balthazar... > He's found the saucer news!" > > - E.T.I. by Blue ?yster Cult > > -AAA Probably in the same place as the MoFi remaster of Tyranny ;-). MoFi tell me their going to release the Gold Tyranny for sure in March or April, but the last time I looked into the KBFH show nobody knew what was going on. Laj. From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Jan 26 04:50:01 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:50:01 -0000 Subject: HW: Hijokaidan Message-ID: Harrumph. Still waiting for my _IYA_, probably got spot checked in customs. However, did receive this morning _Tapes_ by Japanese white noise feedback rockers Hijokaidan, which has a scary cover of "Silver Machine", not for the fainthearted at all... Btw, re: IYA, is that version of "First landing" the one off the old Weird tape? - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jan 26 04:42:19 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:42:19 +0000 Subject: HW: Elf and Hawk In-Reply-To: <199901251832.SAA23159@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <199901251832.SAA23159 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, J Strobridge writes >Anyone else got this? Mine came through the other day - nice to have >everything on CD at last. Didn't realise there was a 2x12" as well so >I've had to order that too! Where'd you get it? -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jan 26 04:38:49 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:38:49 +0000 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions In-Reply-To: <1275161.3126308318@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <1275161.3126308318 at cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk>, Carl Edlund Anderson writes > An impressive statement, considering Hawkwind have managed >some impressive prat-falls in the past! ;) > > Well, I have to say that descriptions I've heard have _not_ >prompted me to order it in from the States, though I'll doubtless >pick it up once I'm back there. I get the feeling that it won't >do that much for me :/ Still, good to see that Hawkfan traditions >are alive--some people have praised it, some people have panned >it. Proves its genuine at least ;) It's a classic case of "new Hawkwind album syndrome". Give it a year and it'll be regarded as a great LP. Yeah, it does have a lot of stuff on it you've heard before but that's hardly surprising by now. Personally I could do without the title track which is "Camera That Could Lie" again basically. I would rather hear the full blooded "Living On A Knife Edge" that its corrupted from. I would rather the firestorms of atmospheres but there you go, eh? FWIW It's a great Brainstorm. "Rat Race" and "Hippy" are a pair of terrific toons, right up there. They're good versions of "Alchemy" and "Aerospace" and the noodly bits later on, are fine. I'm pleased with it, am playing it in the shop, and am happy to tell people what I'm listening to, whether they ask or not. The only problem I have really is the "jump up and down and swing your self around" refrain. The Spice Girls lyric "slam your body down and wind it all around" just creeps into the consciousness. Please shoot me. That and the scary picture of Trev. Scary Hawk. -- Jon From edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK Tue Jan 26 05:04:00 1999 From: edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:04:00 GMT Subject: HW In Your Area: Imp Message-ID: From: Mark Edmonds Date: 1999-01-26 10:04 > i always think that in the egg is going to win folks over. Never >does and i still can't work out why. >andrew >andrew at deluminate.freeserve.co.uk Initially, you think "what the hell are these terrible lines?" but the words really pick up later on - especially the bit about being eaten. I have never understood why Bring Me The Head is rated so low - yes, the sound quality is a bit naff but when the LP first came out, I regarded it as a major release. If this album was an audience tape, everyone would think it was brilliant - personally, I have never come across any audience tapes from this era which sound remotely as good. Mark From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Jan 26 06:27:20 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:27:20 +0000 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions Message-ID: On tis 26 jan 1999 09.38 +0000 "Jon Browne" wrote: > Give it a year and > it'll be regarded as a great LP. No, I still think _DH_ is half-baked at best :) It didn't seem like it had quite gotten itself organized. -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 26 06:51:32 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 11:51:32 +0000 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990126005513.008d2510@flite.net> Message-ID: >> i always think that in the egg is going to win folks over. Never >>does and i still can't work out why. > >Weird. I keep trying to use "Little Black Egg" to win people >over to ICU, and that never seems to work either. >-AAA It's an egg thing! people just can't like eggs in their music (i don't remember any top pop combo succeeding with egg-related songs). But try 'virgin love' and see who your friends really are :-) andrew From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jan 26 06:36:38 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:36:38 EDT Subject: Where B the OC? In-Reply-To: <199901252252.PAA22046@docws002.shl.com> Message-ID: > From: "BREVARD, Adrian R." > > Whatever happened to that band from Long Island, Blue Oyster Cult? No one > ever talks about them anymore. Anyone going to see the show at Jaxx, > Springfield, VA this weekend? I'll be on the road so hopefully they'll be > back this fall. > There hasn't been much tour activity from BOC lately. Maybe that's good news, as in the band's woodshedding on some new stuff? And didn't BD talk about having to go to Europe to promote HF? I don't remember such a period of inactivity from them in a while. theo From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Jan 26 10:03:10 1999 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:03:10 -0500 Subject: Where B the OC? Message-ID: >There hasn't been much tour activity from BOC lately Untrue. Check the fanclub website (www.bocfanclub.com) - they are still touring regularly, including upcoming shows in Japan this spring. John From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Jan 26 10:10:25 1999 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:10:25 -0500 Subject: BOC: A few tidbits... Message-ID: Grist from the BOC rumor mill... 1. There may be a European remaster of "Cultosaurus Erectus" coming out in a few weeks. Thoughtscape Sounds, an import dealer, has it listed on their "New & Pre-releases" section of their website. I emailed them an inquiry, and they replied as follows: "This piece is not out yet it is on pre-release. I t is European but I won't have any specific information until it is released. It is due out in 2 to 3 weeks." 2. Appears that Allen Lanier has been under the weather as of late. He did not play at BOC's New Years Eve show I believe, and was replaced at the last minute on 1/23 by none other than Kasim Sulton (who almost became BOC's new bassist after Jon Rogers quit back in '95). Word is that Allen was ill. I also thought I heard (this was all on the AOL boards by the way) that Allen would be missing some upcoming gigs in the Northwest as well, but I'm not sure of the details (other AOLers feel free to chime in with clarifying detail). Hopefully Allen will be back in full form soon. Please note that it is not my intention to spread unfounded rumors, and I'm not trying to imply in any way that Allen is either leaving the band or in poor health. We all get sick from time to time, and sometimes an illness puts us out of commission for more than a day or two. I assume that this is the case with Allen. John From abrevard at SHL.COM Tue Jan 26 10:25:43 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:25:43 -0800 Subject: Where B the OC? Message-ID: >ahh..... if ONLY I could see them this weekend......... >but I guess I missed the UK appearance a while back...... >not that they'd probably play any shows in Yorkshire..... >have a fun trip Ghost...... >Ted Would be more fun if I could see BOC and the Superbowl in the same weekend, sigh. BTW have no fear, Silent Wind is reporting that the "King is Comming" to Europe. They will bring the Cowboys too and perhaps the Mustard Seeds. As for the next BOC album, since KBFH has commenced to dragging feet why not have CMC just do a live one of the current setlist. Band is playing as well as they ever have. L8er Ghost in the Ruins In the Player - Different Stages - Rush Tapehead - King's X Best of... - King's X From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Jan 26 09:40:06 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:40:06 EDT Subject: Where B the OC? In-Reply-To: <199901261550.IAA25591@docws002.shl.com> Message-ID: > From: "BREVARD, Adrian R." > As for the next BOC album, since KBFH has commenced to dragging feet why not > have CMC just do a live one of the current setlist. Band is playing as well > as they ever have. > Wouldn't be surprised to see it. CMC likes live albums, judging by the way they crank 'em out. This philosophy makes sense, considering that their stable comprises mainly nostalgia acts, who work the road pretty hard. Judging by the quality of BOC shows of the last few years, a current live album would be great... theo From iplug at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Jan 26 11:13:01 1999 From: iplug at HOTMAIL.COM (Joseph Brooks) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 08:13:01 -0800 Subject: Where B the OC? Message-ID: I'm out here.. Not a big HW fan, I've just been lurking, waiting for some BOC talk to chime in on. I'll be seeing the boys on Feb 29 at 4th & B in San Diego, CA. Thats 2 days after seeing moe. at the Belly Up Tavern.. so feb looks to be a good month music-wise. Looking forward to that. Hmmmm.... has it all been said? I don't have much new to say, I fear... JB "Whatever you do, take care of your shoes.." -- Phish "So Ladies, Fish and Gentlemen, here's my angled dream.." -- Blue Oyster Cult ----- Original Message ----- From: BREVARD, Adrian R. Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 2:27 PM Subject: Re: Where B the OC? >Ahem... > >Whatever happened to that band from Long Island, Blue Oyster Cult? No one >ever talks about them anymore. Anyone going to see the show at Jaxx, >Springfield, VA this weekend? I'll be on the road so hopefully they'll be >back this fall. > >L8er >Ghost in the Ruins > >Five in the Player > >Savatage - Sirens, Dungeons Are Calling, Fight for the Rock >Monster Magnet - Powertrip, Dopes to Infinity From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jan 26 10:50:32 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:50:32 +0000 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990126115132.007b7600@pop.freeserve.net> Message-ID: In article <3.0.6.32.19990126115132.007b7600 at pop.freeserve.net>, andrew writes > >It's an egg thing! people just can't like eggs in their music (i don't >remember any top pop combo succeeding with egg-related songs). Hey do you remember top '60's psyche combo The Eggy? They had it all, chronic medieval haircuts, egg references the lot. Wonder why they never made it... -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Jan 26 10:54:43 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:54:43 +0000 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions In-Reply-To: <209034.3126338840@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <209034.3126338840 at cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk>, Carl Edlund Anderson writes >> Give it a year and >> it'll be regarded as a great LP. > > No, I still think _DH_ is half-baked at best :) It didn't >seem like it had quite gotten itself organized. Actually, in this instance DH is exactly what I had in mind. It's not the best example (for me) as I did think it was pretty fine when it came out and even better now. This'll make you laugh, though. I do remember being "a bit disappointed" with Electric Tepee when I first heard it. Well, D'uh. -- Jon From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jan 26 11:55:04 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:55:04 GMT Subject: HW: Elf and Hawk In-Reply-To: Jon Browne's message of Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:42:19 +0000 Message-ID: Jon Browne writes: > In article <199901251832.SAA23159 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, J Strobridge > writes > >Anyone else got this? Mine came through the other day - nice to have > >everything on CD at last. Didn't realise there was a 2x12" as well so > >I've had to order that too! > > Where'd you get it? Mine came from C&D records in Dundee. Double album arrived this morning too 8-) jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jan 26 11:59:09 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:59:09 GMT Subject: HW: Elf and Hawk In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Mon, 25 Jan 1999 20:33:20 +0000 Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > On m?n 25 jan 1999 18.32 +0000 "J Strobridge" > wrote: > > Anyone else got this? Mine came through the other day - nice to have > > everything on CD at last. Didn't realise there was a 2x12" as well so > > I've had to order that too! > > Where ordered from? Henrik? It's an official release. A reissue of the Hawkfan12 combined with Alan Davey's double EP "The Elf" and a couple of other tracks as fillers. Haven't listened too closely to those yet though. C&D Records in Dundee have them. Not sure who else. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jan 26 12:06:31 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:06:31 GMT Subject: Eggspressions In-Reply-To: Jon Browne's message of Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:50:32 +0000 Message-ID: In article <3.0.6.32.19990126115132.007b7600 at pop.freeserve.net>, andrew writes > > It's an egg thing! people just can't like eggs in their music (i don't > remember any top pop combo succeeding with egg-related songs). The Beatles "I am The Egg Man" One of the very best psychadelic songs of my recollection that one is! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jan 26 12:16:19 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:16:19 GMT Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions In-Reply-To: Jon Browne's message of Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:50:32 +0000 Message-ID: Jon Browne writes: > In article <3.0.6.32.19990126115132.007b7600 at pop.freeserve.net>, andrew > writes > > > >It's an egg thing! people just can't like eggs in their music (i don't > >remember any top pop combo succeeding with egg-related songs). How about Tonto's Eggspanding Headband? > Jon FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jan 26 12:25:18 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:25:18 GMT Subject: Eggspressions In-Reply-To: J Strobridge's message of Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:06:31 GMT Message-ID: J Strobridge writes: > In article <3.0.6.32.19990126115132.007b7600 at pop.freeserve.net>, andrew > writes > > > > It's an egg thing! people just can't like eggs in their music (i don't > > remember any top pop combo succeeding with egg-related songs). > > The Beatles "I am The Egg Man" One of the very best psychadelic songs > of my recollection that one is! Yes, it was eggselllent, though it was called "I am the Walrus" I think. There's also "Angel's Egg" by Gong, featuring Hawkwind's own Tim Blake. FoFP From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jan 26 12:32:17 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:32:17 GMT Subject: Eggspressions In-Reply-To: J Strobridge's message of Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:06:31 GMT Message-ID: J Strobridge writes: > In article <3.0.6.32.19990126115132.007b7600 at pop.freeserve.net>, andrew > writes > > > > It's an egg thing! people just can't like eggs in their music (i don't > > remember any top pop combo succeeding with egg-related songs). > > The Beatles "I am The Egg Man" One of the very best psychadelic songs > of my recollection that one is! > > jill And in a knee-jerk response to my own ambiguities: quite apart from the fact that the song was about Walruses of course! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 26 12:58:14 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:58:14 +0000 Subject: Eggspressions In-Reply-To: <199901261725.RAA26705@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >There's also "Angel's Egg" by Gong, featuring Hawkwind's own Tim Blake. >FoFP okay, i'll concede that one andrew (still recovering from the tonto's gag - one more like that and i'll crack) "I said the punks don't know nothing, i said the straights don't know nothing i said the hippies don't know nothing" - Alternative TV From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Jan 26 13:40:35 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:40:35 GMT Subject: Eggspressions In-Reply-To: andrew's message of Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:58:14 +0000 Message-ID: andrew writes: > >There's also "Angel's Egg" by Gong, featuring Hawkwind's own Tim Blake. > >FoFP > > okay, i'll concede that one > > andrew (still recovering from the tonto's gag - one more like that and i'll > crack) Well Gong did have an albumen the charts. There's another Hawkwind connection: yanks might call a certain track: The Eggplant That Ate Rangoon. FoFP From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 26 13:55:14 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:55:14 +0000 Subject: Eggspressions In-Reply-To: <199901261840.SAA14416@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >> andrew (still recovering from the tonto's gag - one more like that and i'll >> crack) > >Well Gong did have an albumen the charts. Well, i warned you; that last one scrambled my brains > >There's another Hawkwind connection: yanks might call a certain track: > >The Eggplant That Ate Rangoon. !!!!! and of course there's always Doremi Latidegg (oh shoot me now) > >FoFP > andrew From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Jan 26 13:59:22 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:59:22 -0500 Subject: Eggspressions Message-ID: >andrew writes: > >> >There's also "Angel's Egg" by Gong, featuring Hawkwind's own Tim Blake. >> >FoFP >> >> okay, i'll concede that one >> >> andrew (still recovering from the tonto's gag - one more like that and i'll >> crack) > >Well Gong did have an albumen the charts. > >There's another Hawkwind connection: yanks might call a certain track: > >The Eggplant That Ate Rangoon. It's because of things like these that we threw off the yolk of british tyranny.... (despite that benedict thing...) People weren't willing to shell out money for this. Other tracks (legit) Pink Floyd's 'Embryo' " " Alan's Psychadelic Breakfast 'sunny side up' had the sound of eggs.... BOC's 'Cultosaurus Erectus' album sleve depicted fossilized eggs of a Cultosaurus.... And Albert's Imaginos album had the 'Born of a yolkless egg' line in there.... ============================================ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Andrew Apold From hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU Tue Jan 26 14:15:26 1999 From: hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU (hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:15:26 -0600 Subject: Eggspressions In-Reply-To: <199901261859.NAA14031@issfire1.co.palm-beach.fl.us> Message-ID: I think black sabbath had a brief instrumental called "embryo" as well. (from MofR) thomas On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Andrew A. Apold wrote: > >andrew writes: > > > >> >There's also "Angel's Egg" by Gong, featuring Hawkwind's own Tim Blake. > >> >FoFP > >> > >> okay, i'll concede that one > >> > >> andrew (still recovering from the tonto's gag - one more like that and i'll > >> crack) > > > >Well Gong did have an albumen the charts. > > > >There's another Hawkwind connection: yanks might call a certain track: > > > >The Eggplant That Ate Rangoon. > > It's because of things like these that we threw off the yolk of british > tyranny.... (despite that benedict thing...) > > People weren't willing to shell out money for this. > > Other tracks (legit) > > Pink Floyd's 'Embryo' > " " Alan's Psychadelic Breakfast 'sunny side up' had the sound of > eggs.... > BOC's 'Cultosaurus Erectus' album sleve depicted fossilized eggs of a > Cultosaurus.... > And Albert's Imaginos album had the 'Born of a yolkless egg' line in there.... > > ============================================ > "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random > > Andrew Apold > From hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU Tue Jan 26 14:16:02 1999 From: hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU (hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:16:02 -0600 Subject: Eggspressions In-Reply-To: <199901261859.NAA14031@issfire1.co.palm-beach.fl.us> Message-ID: Oh, and Dead Can Dance have an album called *The Serpent's Egg* thomas On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Andrew A. Apold wrote: > >andrew writes: > > > >> >There's also "Angel's Egg" by Gong, featuring Hawkwind's own Tim Blake. > >> >FoFP > >> > >> okay, i'll concede that one > >> > >> andrew (still recovering from the tonto's gag - one more like that and i'll > >> crack) > > > >Well Gong did have an albumen the charts. > > > >There's another Hawkwind connection: yanks might call a certain track: > > > >The Eggplant That Ate Rangoon. > > It's because of things like these that we threw off the yolk of british > tyranny.... (despite that benedict thing...) > > People weren't willing to shell out money for this. > > Other tracks (legit) > > Pink Floyd's 'Embryo' > " " Alan's Psychadelic Breakfast 'sunny side up' had the sound of > eggs.... > BOC's 'Cultosaurus Erectus' album sleve depicted fossilized eggs of a > Cultosaurus.... > And Albert's Imaginos album had the 'Born of a yolkless egg' line in there.... > > ============================================ > "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random > > Andrew Apold > From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Jan 26 14:23:17 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 19:23:17 -0000 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 26 January 1999 11:40 Subject: Re: HW In Your Area: Impressions >On tis 26 jan 1999 09.38 +0000 "Jon Browne" wrote: >> Give it a year and >> it'll be regarded as a great LP. > > No, I still think _DH_ is half-baked at best :) It didn't >seem like it had quite gotten itself organized. > >-- Good reason for this, the version of DH that was released was only a rough mix demo sent to Doug by the band to show how the album was progressing. Next thing you know the bugger's gone and released it, complete with knocked-together-in-a-minute grey cover! Some of the tracks were probably completely finished, others such as Phetamine Street were still in the rough stages. This also explains the track indexing error at the end. Nick From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Jan 26 15:06:13 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:06:13 -0000 Subject: Eggspressions In-Reply-To: <199901261706.RAA19906@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > The Beatles "I am The Egg Man" One of the very best psychadelic songs > of my recollection that one is! > Or the Beastie Boys' "Egg Man", off of _Paul's Boutique_. "Humpty Dumpty was a big fat egg", "not like the crack that you put in a pipe" etc etc. - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From StevenTice at AOL.COM Tue Jan 26 15:09:35 1999 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:09:35 EST Subject: BOC: A few tidbits... Message-ID: Just talked to Bolle Gregmar about a few of these questions. Regarding King Biscuit: "No News.... same situation, SONY hasn't found the master reels yet and I assume Schenck will find them before they do and then we'll see what happens. I would expect maybe a mid summer release if they are still interested in the release by the time they find the Reels.... " About Allen Lanier: " I understand he needs time off to recover from last year and so he's off until March...you can call Allen's off time a Recreation Vacation and basically don't come back until you're fully restored. " About Allen's replacement: "Kasim Sulton is the Replacement for Allen.... I believe he'll be doing both Guitars & Keys as well as sing back ups, he's got a great voice for that. Hmmm, maybe they'll sound like a real pro outfit now with so many session musicians... It's The buck & Eric show again...The Two Oyster Cult!" And the current setlist: "They are ding real BOC sets again with stuff like harvester Of Eyes, Veteran Of the Psychic Wars, and i hope they'll bring back Black Blade..." Sounds like now's a great time to see the band! SET From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Jan 26 15:40:33 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:40:33 -0000 Subject: HW: Hijokaidan In-Reply-To: <000001be4911$3e1e5700$683f63c3@default> Message-ID: Thought some might be interested in the sleeve notes for "Silver Machine" on Hijokaidan's _Tapes_: Space is deep. Silver Machine is only dream. This is Hawkwind, do not panic. Your captain is dead. Higher and higher... and more... The original sound "SILVER MACHINE" is the great british hit of Hawkwind, 1972. Please listen to their many records if you don't know about Hawkwind. These are some truth of the world's end. By the way this number was recorded at studio of Osaka and Tokyo in June and July, 1986, and produced by Naoto Hayashi, JOJO and Dr. Technical. Dr. Technical? - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU Tue Jan 26 16:02:21 1999 From: hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU (hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:02:21 -0600 Subject: Eggspressions In-Reply-To: <199901261859.NAA14031@issfire1.co.palm-beach.fl.us> Message-ID: ...and to continue the krautrock connections, there is also Can -- *Egg Bamyasi*. thomas On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Andrew A. Apold wrote: > >andrew writes: > > > >> >There's also "Angel's Egg" by Gong, featuring Hawkwind's own Tim Blake. > >> >FoFP > >> > >> okay, i'll concede that one > >> > >> andrew (still recovering from the tonto's gag - one more like that and i'll > >> crack) > > > >Well Gong did have an albumen the charts. > > > >There's another Hawkwind connection: yanks might call a certain track: > > > >The Eggplant That Ate Rangoon. > > It's because of things like these that we threw off the yolk of british > tyranny.... (despite that benedict thing...) > > People weren't willing to shell out money for this. > > Other tracks (legit) > > Pink Floyd's 'Embryo' > " " Alan's Psychadelic Breakfast 'sunny side up' had the sound of > eggs.... > BOC's 'Cultosaurus Erectus' album sleve depicted fossilized eggs of a > Cultosaurus.... > And Albert's Imaginos album had the 'Born of a yolkless egg' line in there.... > > ============================================ > "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random > > Andrew Apold > From hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU Tue Jan 26 16:03:21 1999 From: hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU (hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:03:21 -0600 Subject: Eggspressions In-Reply-To: <199901261859.NAA14031@issfire1.co.palm-beach.fl.us> Message-ID: Paul McCartney and Wings -- *Back to the Egg* On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Andrew A. Apold wrote: > >andrew writes: > > > >> >There's also "Angel's Egg" by Gong, featuring Hawkwind's own Tim Blake. > >> >FoFP > >> > >> okay, i'll concede that one > >> > >> andrew (still recovering from the tonto's gag - one more like that and i'll > >> crack) > > > >Well Gong did have an albumen the charts. > > > >There's another Hawkwind connection: yanks might call a certain track: > > > >The Eggplant That Ate Rangoon. > > It's because of things like these that we threw off the yolk of british > tyranny.... (despite that benedict thing...) > > People weren't willing to shell out money for this. > > Other tracks (legit) > > Pink Floyd's 'Embryo' > " " Alan's Psychadelic Breakfast 'sunny side up' had the sound of > eggs.... > BOC's 'Cultosaurus Erectus' album sleve depicted fossilized eggs of a > Cultosaurus.... > And Albert's Imaginos album had the 'Born of a yolkless egg' line in there.... > > ============================================ > "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random > > Andrew Apold > From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Jan 26 16:04:39 1999 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:04:39 -0500 Subject: BOC: A few tidbits... Message-ID: And, I'll add my interpretation to Bolle's comments: >"No News.... same situation, SONY hasn't found the master reels yet and I assume Schenck will find them before they do and then we'll see what happens. I would expect maybe a mid summer release if they are still interested in the release by the time they find the Reels.... " MY CONCLUSION: Forget it. This KBFH project is dead. Unless Sony starts making a bunch of money of BOC's back catalog with all these compilations (rumor has it another one will be out this year), then I'm assuming they have no motivation to get off their asses and find the tapes. BOC will probably have a better chance of getting CMC to release a live album (which, as was pointed out here, is not out of the realm of possibility for CMC). >" I understand he needs time off to recover from last year and so he's off until March...you can call Allen's off time a Recreation Vacation and basically don't come back until you're fully restored. " MY CONCLUSION: Inconclusive. I had heard in the past that Allen has really been having the time of his life in BOC over the past few years, so I remain optimistic that he will return. *Maybe* he'll use the time off to do some writing for BOC's next album... Still, I have an uneasy feeling about this, not sure why... >"Kasim Sulton is the Replacement for Allen.... I believe he'll be doing both Guitars & Keys as well as sing back ups, he's got a great voice for that. Hmmm, maybe they'll sound like a real pro outfit now with so many session musicians... It's The buck & Eric show again...The Two Oyster Cult!" MY CONCLUSION: Like Steve says, it may be a great time to see the band (then again, when isn't it?). Kasim Sulton was almost the bassplayer, so I'm assuming that he's pretty talented. There's also a connection where one or two of the bandmembers (Buck I think - it's in the FAQ) played on Sulton's solo album. But, hopefully the revolving door of BOC members isn't about to pick up again. >"They are ding real BOC sets again with stuff like harvester Of Eyes, Veteran Of the Psychic Wars, and i hope they'll bring back Black Blade..." MY CONCLUSION: LOL - Eric's always been Bolle's favorite BOC vocalist, and he seems to think that if Eric ain't singing 80% of the stuff, then it ain't BOC. Bring back Black Blade? Maybe, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Then again, I wouldn't have imagined them doing "Veteran..." or "Lips in the Hills" again either. Hey Steve, see if Bolle knows anything about this possible European remaster of Cultosaurus - it is, afterall, Bolle's favorite BOC album John From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Jan 26 16:05:58 1999 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:05:58 -0500 Subject: Eggspressions Message-ID: >People weren't willing to shell out money for this. Other tracks (legit) Pink Floyd's 'Embryo' " " Alan's Psychadelic Breakfast 'sunny side up' had the sound of eggs.... BOC's 'Cultosaurus Erectus' album sleve depicted fossilized eggs of a Cultosaurus.... And Albert's Imaginos album had the 'Born of a yolkless egg' line in there.... Well, let's not forget BOC's "Eggstraterrestrial Live" album, or E.T.I - Eggstraterrestrial Intelligence ... And the yolk's - on you! John From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 26 16:38:50 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:38:50 +0000 Subject: HW: (ish) EMS release Message-ID: hi, no more egg things; it was becoming eggscruciating i remember seeing at my local shiny disc shoppe an ams release by some bloke called Albino Alligator (i think this might have been the name of the beast). Can anybody tell me anything about this? andrew andrew andrew at deluminate.freeserve.co.uk From tclark at PETRONET.NET Tue Jan 26 17:31:33 1999 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:31:33 -0600 Subject: HW: (ish) EMS release Message-ID: andrew wrote: > hi, > > no more egg things; it was becoming eggscruciating > > Yeah! otherwise you may wind up with egg on your face... From StevenTice at AOL.COM Tue Jan 26 17:33:33 1999 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:33:33 EST Subject: BOC: A few tidbits... Message-ID: In a message dated 1/26/99 4:05:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG writes: << Hey Steve, see if Bolle knows anything about this possible European remaster of Cultosaurus - it is, afterall, Bolle's favorite BOC album John >> Nope. :-) He didn't even know it is supposed to be European, and his opinion there is "Europe has no need to inform us of anything they do until after it's done"...oh well! SET From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Tue Jan 26 17:40:49 1999 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:40:49 -0700 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990125183922.0079dc30@nlci.com> Message-ID: > "Hippy" is a song that I'm not sure should be on a > Hawkwind album....Brock wasn't involved with this one at all, and > it shows. > It sounds extremely un-Hawkwind like with its folky guitar trills. I just listened to "X In Search Of Space" and "Alien 4" "Quark, Strangeness and Charm" and "Electric Tepee" and "Sonic Attack" and I'm confused: What is Hawkwind SUPPOSED to sound like? Gee, I sure wish someone would tell them so they can start sounding exactly like that from now on, and stop all this silly stretching of boundaries and styles. Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Jan 26 18:48:52 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:48:52 +0000 Subject: BOC: A few tidbits... Message-ID: On tis 26 jan 1999 15.09 +0000 "Steven Tice" wrote: > Sounds like now's a great time to see the band! What, now that it's the Buck and Eric show? OK, Buck _is_ a great guitar player-no question about it--but still ... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Jan 26 18:53:35 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:53:35 +0000 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions Message-ID: On tis 26 jan 1999 19.23 +0000 "Nick Lee" wrote: > Good reason for this, the version of DH that was released was only a rough > mix demo sent to Doug by the band to show how the album was progressing. > Next thing you know the bugger's gone and released it, complete with > knocked-together-in-a-minute grey cover! Some of the tracks were probably > completely finished, others such as Phetamine Street were still in the rough > stages. This also explains the track indexing error at the end. Well shee-it. That explains a lot. The cover art was incredibly poor. I could have made a better cover than that in less time, I have no doubt! But even if it was "in the rough stages", "Phetamine Street" *was* IMO one of the better tracks on the album :) There was a _lot_ of random electronic dossing about. So can we return to the old list tradition of blaming Doug Smith (and Steve Swann) for everything? :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Jan 26 18:59:08 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:59:08 +0000 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions Message-ID: On tis 26 jan 1999 15.54 +0000 "Jon Browne" wrote: > This'll make you laugh, though. I > do remember being "a bit disappointed" with Electric Tepee when I first > heard it. Well, D'uh. Well, _I_ *am* a bit disappointed with _ET_. There should have been *more* good tracks (and the good tracks on it were *very* good!) and fewer random synth burbly sectionsn :) "LSD", "Mask of Morning" (for all that it was a remake, it was far surperior to the original), "Sadness Runs Deep", and "Right to Decide" were all excellent tracks, able to stand alongside HW's best. But I have have no mercy :) and I hold everything to the standard of albums like Doremi and HotMG where there were a few wacky electronic tracks which seasoned an album of spacerock, whereas in recent years it seems almost the other way around. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Jan 26 19:05:37 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:05:37 -0000 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions Message-ID: I'm told that the "real" DH resides on shelf in HW's studio. Could be a slightly apocryphal tale, but it comes from a reliable source. Me? I rather liked "phetamine Street" as it sound too... -----Original Message----- From: Carl Edlund Anderson To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 27 January 1999 00:06 Subject: Re: HW In Your Area: Impressions >On tis 26 jan 1999 19.23 +0000 "Nick Lee" wrote: >> Good reason for this, the version of DH that was released was only a rough >> mix demo sent to Doug by the band to show how the album was progressing. >> Next thing you know the bugger's gone and released it, complete with >> knocked-together-in-a-minute grey cover! Some of the tracks were probably >> completely finished, others such as Phetamine Street were still in the >rough >> stages. This also explains the track indexing error at the end. > > Well shee-it. That explains a lot. The cover art was incredibly >poor. I could have made a better cover than that in less time, I have >no doubt! But even if it was "in the rough stages", "Phetamine Street" >*was* IMO one of the better tracks on the album :) There was a _lot_ >of random electronic dossing about. > > So can we return to the old list tradition of blaming Doug Smith >(and Steve Swann) for everything? :) > >Cheers, >Carl > >-- >Carl Edlund Anderson >Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic >St. John's College, University of Cambridge >mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk >http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Jan 26 20:32:24 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:32:24 +0000 Subject: Eggspressions In-Reply-To: <199901261732.RAA29008@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, J Strobridge wrote: > > The Beatles "I am The Egg Man" One of the very best psychadelic songs > > of my recollection that one is! > > > > jill > > > And in a knee-jerk response to my own ambiguities: quite apart from > the fact that the song was about Walruses of course! Given the lyrics of 'I Am The Walrus' I think it's possible to argue it's about absolutely *anything*... Yours, Jon -- /_______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 338100) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "`It's a Venusian space bassist,' said Turner the bird being." | | (Hawkwind, sleeve notes to 'Doremi Fasol Latido') | \_______________________________________________________________________/ From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Jan 26 21:05:14 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:05:14 EST Subject: HW: FS Message-ID: Subject: Camel/Hawkwind FS From: "Douglas C. Maynard" Date: Mon, Jan 25, 1999 15:52 EST Message-id: <36ACD97E.3C78 at matrix.newpaltz.edu> Hi, I have the following CD's for sale at $7.50 apiece. ALL ARE SEALED!! The Hawkwind CDs are on the Griffin label Camel - A Compact Compilation Hawkwind - Levitation Hawkwind - Zones Hawkwind - The Hawklords Live Hawkwind - Undisclosed Files: Addendum Postage for 1 CD is $1, $1.50 for 2-3 CDs, $2 for 4-5. Thanks, Doug. From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Jan 26 21:04:34 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:04:34 EST Subject: HW: Strange Nik-post from NG Message-ID: Subject: Attention Hawkwind Fans From: eriksongs at aol.com (Eriksongs) Date: Mon, Jan 25, 1999 16:34 EST Message-id: <19990125163445.20420.00002961 at ng-fx1.aol.com> Nik Turner is or was on tour whith Nik Turner's Hawkwind. AVOID THIS AT ALL COSTS IF YOU VALUE YOUR EARS AND SANITY. Undefinable noise at extreme volume. Yuck! ---Amusing, hmm? I know even people on the "Brockwind side" wouldn't go this far... Chuck From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Jan 26 21:40:13 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 02:40:13 +0000 Subject: HW: Strange Nik-post from NG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Subject: Attention Hawkwind Fans >From: eriksongs at aol.com (Eriksongs) ik Turner is or was on tour whith Nik Turner's Hawkwind. AVOID THIS AT ALL >COSTS IF YOU VALUE YOUR EARS AND SANITY. Undefinable noise at extreme volume. >Yuck! >---Amusing, hmm? I know even people on the "Brockwind side" wouldn't go this >far... Chuck I couldn't think of a greater reccomendation! Both ears and sanity under threat at a gig? Glad to see old Hawknose still at it. andrew "I said the punks don't know nothing, i said the straights don't know nothing i said the hippies don't know nothing" - Alternative TV From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Tue Jan 26 20:52:00 1999 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:52:00 +1100 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions Message-ID: Nick Lee wrote: > Good reason for this, the version of DH that was released was only a rough > mix demo sent to Doug by the band to show how the album was progressing. > Next thing you know the bugger's gone and released it, complete with > knocked-together-in-a-minute grey cover! Some of the tracks were probably > completely finished, others such as Phetamine Street were still in the rough > stages. This also explains the track indexing error at the end. Which would also explain the rumoured tiff they had last year, too... - Max From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Tue Jan 26 20:53:04 1999 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:53:04 +1100 Subject: Eggspressions Message-ID: Andy Gilham wrote: > Or the Beastie Boys' "Egg Man", off of _Paul's Boutique_. "Humpty Dumpty > was a big fat egg", "not like the crack that you put in a pipe" etc etc. Not to forget the classic - "Egg Raid on Mojo" - can't believe I forgot that! - Max From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Tue Jan 26 21:56:26 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:56:26 EST Subject: HW: Strange Nik-post from NG Message-ID: In a message dated 1/26/99 9:21:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, Chuckrecs at AOL.COM writes: > Subject: Attention Hawkwind Fans > From: eriksongs at aol.com (Eriksongs) > Date: Mon, Jan 25, 1999 16:34 EST > Message-id: <19990125163445.20420.00002961 at ng-fx1.aol.com> > > Nik Turner is or was on tour whith Nik Turner's Hawkwind. AVOID THIS AT ALL > COSTS IF YOU VALUE YOUR EARS AND SANITY. Undefinable noise at extreme > volume. > Yuck! > > ---Amusing, hmm? I know even people on the "Brockwind side" wouldn't go this > far... Chuck > who is this eriksongs? where is this post from, and what context is it in, other than the obvious? Too many questions, not enough etreme noise to run away from. sounds like a recommendation to any fans of noise. (count me in) bob http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From StevenTice at AOL.COM Tue Jan 26 23:44:25 1999 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 23:44:25 EST Subject: BOC: A few tidbits... Message-ID: In a message dated 1/26/99 6:50:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK writes: << > Sounds like now's a great time to see the band! What, now that it's the Buck and Eric show? OK, Buck _is_ a great guitar player-no question about it--but still ... >> Well, I said that in response to the setlist... But Buck did a mighty good job as One-OC on the Miracle tape, so having BOC's two front men/lead vocalists/lead guitarist plus three other good musicians sounds like a good night's entertainment... And, heck, the Brain Surgeons do an exceptional job on Red and Black, D&S, and other BOC tunes, and Albert is the only former BOC member in THAT band... SET From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Jan 27 00:48:33 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:48:33 -0500 Subject: HW: Strange Nik-post from NG In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990127024013.007af4e0@pop.freeserve.net> Message-ID: At 02:40 AM 1/27/99 +0000, you wrote: >>Subject: Attention Hawkwind Fans >>From: eriksongs at aol.com (Eriksongs) >ik Turner is or was on tour whith Nik Turner's Hawkwind. AVOID THIS AT ALL >>COSTS IF YOU VALUE YOUR EARS AND SANITY. Undefinable noise at extreme >volume. >I couldn't think of a greater reccomendation! Both ears and sanity under >threat at a gig? Glad to see old Hawknose still at it. I am reminded of once, on alt.music.blueoystercult, when they were complaining about hawkstuff being spoken about on there, Bolle attempted to show how awful the one hawkwind show he had gone to was, and people responding that he had just described the ideal hawkwind show. ============================= "All praise, he's found the awful truth, Balthazar... He's found the saucer news!" - E.T.I. by Blue ?yster Cult -AAA From AgentOF at AOL.COM Wed Jan 27 01:57:26 1999 From: AgentOF at AOL.COM (Chuck Saden) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:57:26 EST Subject: BOC: A few tidbits... Message-ID: I think a night of BOC music would be great to hear anytime. Even if The Green Clam Clan was playing it. chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Jan 27 04:53:30 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 04:53:30 EST Subject: HW: Strange Nik-post from NG Message-ID: In a message dated 99-01-26 22:26:40 EST, you write: << who is this eriksongs? where is this post from, and what context is it in, other than the obvious? Too many questions, not enough etreme noise to run away from. sounds like a recommendation to any fans of noise. (count me in) bob http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html >> ---The post is from the alt.fan.progressive NG, and seems to have been a reply to the ad for HW CDs for sale (which I also forwarded to the list). You and Andrew are right, noise can be highly recommended, but it's not like "Brockwind" wasn't or can't be just as wonderfully noisy. Chuck From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Jan 27 05:14:46 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:14:46 +0000 Subject: HW: Strange Nik-post from NG Message-ID: On tis 26 jan 1999 21.04 +0000 "Chuck Rosenberg" wrote: >> Undefinable noise at extreme volume. >> Yuck! > > ---Amusing, hmm? Well, it would certainly be cool if Brock and Co. played at extreme volume :) But preferably with slightly more definable noise :) Cheers, Carl ObCD: Motorhead, _Snakebite Love_ -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jan 27 05:13:51 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:13:51 +0000 Subject: HW: Strange Nik-post from NG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Chuck Rosenberg writes >Nik Turner is or was on tour whith Nik Turner's Hawkwind. AVOID THIS AT ALL >COSTS IF YOU VALUE YOUR EARS AND SANITY. Undefinable noise at extreme volume. >Yuck! "Undefinable noise at extreme volume." Hmm.....That would be quite good then, surely? -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Jan 27 05:10:45 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:10:45 +0000 Subject: Eggspressions In-Reply-To: <199901261725.RAA26705@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <199901261725.RAA26705 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes > >Yes, it was eggselllent, though it was called "I am the Walrus" I think. Eggs-actly right, dear boy. > >There's also "Angel's Egg" by Gong, featuring Hawkwind's own Tim Blake. I'm getting off this thread before some idjit says "Warrior on The Eggs of Time" -- Jon From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Jan 27 05:20:45 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:20:45 +0000 Subject: BOC: A few tidbits... Message-ID: On tis 26 jan 1999 23.44 +0000 "Steven Tice" wrote: > Well, I said that in response to the setlist... But Buck did a mighty good > job as One-OC on the Miracle tape, so having BOC's two front men/lead > vocalists/lead guitarist plus three other good musicians sounds like a good > night's entertainment... Well, yes, seems likely--though they're getting darned close to being a BOC cover band (again). I wouldn't mind this if they kept turning out new material regularly: a productive band is a real band, IMO. > And, heck, the Brain Surgeons do an exceptional job > on Red and Black, D&S, and other BOC tunes, and Albert is the only former BOC > member in THAT band... Yes, but see above :) Besides, the Brain Surgeons aren't BOC-- they are their own band and play a few BOC covers as a nod to Al's former band (and, of course, because it gets in the punters :) But I would go and see tBS even if they never played a BOC number. Thus, I demand more from BOC! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Jan 27 05:26:00 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:26:00 +0000 Subject: HW: The Wizard Laid an Egg (was Re: Eggspressions) Message-ID: On ons 27 jan 1999 10.10 +0000 "Jon Browne" wrote: > "Warrior on The Eggs of Time" Which, terrifyingly, reminds me: does anyone have a copy of the re-write of "The Wizard Blew his Horn" which was posted here a few years ago as "The Wizard Blew his Nose" (i.e. "he screamed for an asprin ... he screamed for an asprin!"). I've a friend in the local rock society who is keen to see this (being a Moorcock fan and having been exposed to the Warriors album :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jan 27 05:55:41 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:55:41 GMT Subject: Eggspressions In-Reply-To: Andrew A. Apold's message of Tue, 26 Jan 1999 13:59:22 -0500 Message-ID: Andrew A. Apold writes: > Other tracks (legit) > > Pink Floyd's 'Embryo' > " " Alan's Psychadelic Breakfast 'sunny side up' had the sound of > eggs.... Then there's Hawkwind's "Age of the Micro Man" FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jan 27 06:00:54 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:00:54 GMT Subject: Eggspressions In-Reply-To: Jon Browne's message of Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:10:45 +0000 Message-ID: Jon Browne writes: > I'm getting off this thread before some idjit says > > "Warrior on The Eggs of Time" That's the album with "Salt and Batter It". FoFP From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jan 27 06:22:24 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:22:24 -0000 Subject: HW: The Wizard Laid an Egg (was Re: Eggspressions) In-Reply-To: <65870.3126421560@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: > Which, terrifyingly, reminds me: does anyone have a copy of > the re-write of "The Wizard Blew his Horn" which was posted here > a few years ago as "The Wizard Blew his Nose" (i.e. "he screamed > for an asprin ... he screamed for an asprin!"). I've a friend > in the local rock society who is keen to see this (being a > Moorcock fan and having been exposed to the Warriors album :) Oh god, that was me... all I remember is We are humanity's hanky Which will wipe the snot away As if it never existed - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Wed Jan 27 06:39:14 1999 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:39:14 +0000 Subject: HW: Strange Nik-post from NG In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Jon Browne wrote: > "Undefinable noise at extreme volume." > > Hmm.....That would be quite good then, surely? > hmm... that would be Motorhead then, surely? Mike w From a.hughes at NEWI.AC.UK Wed Jan 27 07:01:29 1999 From: a.hughes at NEWI.AC.UK (Alun Hughes) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 12:01:29 +0000 Subject: HW: In Your Area Message-ID: I think we'd have to say this is exactly as expected. Without wishing to be too down on it, it's an accurate reflection of where the band are at the moment: the difficulty of coming up with strong new material and the consequent retreads; the lack of a lyric writer; the execrable Capt Rizz; the poor quality control. But what they hell, they still sound like no-one else, there's some good back-catalogue there to reprocess, and at least there *is* new product. We'd all like Brock to write some good new songs. I would doubt that that's just a matter of his being arsed to do it. The problem seems to be spreading the available inspiration over the volume of product that appears necessary to sustain the band. The result is albums that have enough good tracks to fill an EP, with their impact diluted by perfunctory synth efforts for which "slight" would be the most generous word I could find (the commendable "Elfin" aside). Personally, I'd prefer it if they waited until they had enough decent material for a proper album; I think the need for product can be (and often has been) filled by live material, remixes, even some good old-fashioned improvisation .... Alun From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jan 27 07:01:11 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:01:11 EDT Subject: BOC: A few tidbits... In-Reply-To: <2884089.3126383332@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > What, now that it's the Buck and Eric show? OK, Buck _is_ > a great guitar player-no question about it--but still ... > Hmm...A couple years ago, when Eric's voice was in really bad shape, it was the Buck Show. Period. As Allen was also pretty quiet up there on stage. And the last several shows I've seen these past couple years, Allen has been even more zombie-like than usual, so I hope he takes some time off and gets his battery recharged. His guitar work has been okay, but he hardly plays keys anymore, and I, for one, think that's an essential part of the BOC sound that has been lacking in concert lately [as well as on HF] I really liked Kasim's work with Utopia, so I hope he fits in well here. I can't wait to hear him, though obviously, Allen in top shape is the desideratum... theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jan 27 07:11:12 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:11:12 EDT Subject: BOC: A few tidbits... In-Reply-To: <199901262104.QAA13050@mbunix.mitre.org> Message-ID: > From: John A Swartz > MY CONCLUSION: Forget it. This KBFH project is dead. Unless Sony starts > making a bunch of money of BOC's back catalog with all these compilations > (rumor has it another one will be out this year), then I'm assuming they > have no motivation to get off their asses and find the tapes. BOC will > probably have a better chance of getting CMC to release a live album (which, > as was pointed out here, is not out of the realm of possibility for CMC). Agreed. I think that since BOC is now with CMC, and given CMC's affinity for live records, then perhaps KBFH decided against it? > MY CONCLUSION: Inconclusive. I had heard in the past that Allen has really > been having the time of his life in BOC over the past few years, so I > remain optimistic that he will return. *Maybe* he'll use the time off to > do some writing for BOC's next album... Still, I have an uneasy feeling > about this, not sure why... > Although Allen didn't do an awful lot of writing for the group in the old days. He's been hot and cold at the live shows. Sometimes he looks great, and really animated, others he can hardly move. I don't have good feelings for this either... > MY CONCLUSION: Like Steve says, it may be a great time to see the band > (then again, when isn't it?). Kasim Sulton was almost the bassplayer, so > I'm assuming that he's pretty talented. Listen to any of the Todd rundgren Utopia band albums. Kasim's great. BTW, Todd's a bitching gtrst too, esp. on Ra. Definitely worth checking out... > >"They are ding real BOC sets again with stuff like harvester Of Eyes, Veteran > Of the Psychic Wars, and i hope they'll bring back Black Blade..." > > MY CONCLUSION: LOL - Eric's always been Bolle's favorite BOC vocalist, > and he seems to think that if Eric ain't singing 80% of the stuff, then > it ain't BOC. Bring back Black Blade? Maybe, but I wouldn't hold my > breath. Then again, I wouldn't have imagined them doing "Veteran..." > or "Lips in the Hills" again either. > Imagine my shock hearing Joan Crawford last summer! I guess anything's possible... theo From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jan 27 08:26:16 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:26:16 -0000 Subject: BOC: A few tidbits... In-Reply-To: <771B967555@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: > Hmm...A couple years ago, when Eric's voice was in really bad shape, > it was the Buck Show. Period. As Allen was also pretty quiet up > there on stage. And the last several shows I've seen these past > couple years, Allen has been even more zombie-like than usual, so I > hope he takes some time off and gets his battery recharged. That's funny - in London last year, I was surprised how much Allen did, how much of the best gtr was from him, etc. I guess I always forget how much he does, because I'm always surprised that way. :) - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jan 27 08:26:18 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:26:18 -0000 Subject: HW: In Your Area In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Possibly because I had no real hopes for IYA, I rather like it. I prefer Rizz in the middle of LiS to Tree... You're right, it does sum up the current state of the band - can still put on a dead good show, even if the new material is thin in comparison. Looking forward to HW97! Cover art's really naff though! - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Wed Jan 27 09:06:11 1999 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:06:11 +0000 Subject: HW: In Your Area In-Reply-To: <000401be49f8$9f363700$a23f63c3@default> Message-ID: Where did you guys get it? Dave (who's being a bit slow this year...) Languages Group Manager. Harlequin Ltd., Lismore House, 127 George St, Edinburgh, EH2 4JN, UK. Tel: +44 131 240 6106. From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jan 27 09:15:58 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:15:58 -0000 Subject: HW: In Your Area In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990127140611.0100a010@mailhost.ed.harlequin.co.uk> Message-ID: > > > Where did you guys get it? Well, I ordered mine from CDConnection.com, but it seems that CDCellar.com were cheaper (and quicker!) - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From abrevard at SHL.COM Wed Jan 27 10:44:46 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:44:46 -0600 Subject: BOC: Me and My Big Mouth! Message-ID: Oh sure I can't make the gig this weekend and everyone is rubbing it in. Forgive the bad tone but I'm hurtin' not being able to see them this weekend. To wit: JB>I'm out here.. Not a big HW fan, I've just been lurking, waiting for some BOC talk to chime in on. I'll be seeing the boys on Feb 29 at 4th & B in San Diego, CA. Thats 2 days after seeing moe. at the Belly Up Tavern.. so feb looks to be a good month music-wise. See even lurkers got plans to see 'em. Damn why this weekend? :-) Bolle>And the current setlist: "They are ding real BOC sets again with stuff like harvester Of Eyes, Veteran Of the Psychic Wars, and i hope they'll bring back Black Blade..." Sounds like now's a great time to see the band! Screw you Bolle, why tell me this now! I hope CA falls into the Pacific! Harvester and Veterans? Damn! Ok, ok I'm calmer now. Some other stuff... Bolle>No News.... same situation, SONY hasn't found the master reels yet and I assume Schenck will find them before they do and then we'll see what happens. I would expect maybe a mid summer release if they are still interested in the release by the time they find the Reels.... " JS>MY CONCLUSION: Forget it. This KBFH project is dead. Unless Sony starts making a bunch of money of BOC's back catalog with all these compilations (rumor has it another one will be out this year), then I'm assuming they have no motivation to get off their asses and find the tapes. BOC will probably have a better chance of getting CMC to release a live album (which, as was pointed out here, is not out of the realm of possibility for CMC). Geez I'm beginning to hate anything Sony. I'm with ya JS, forget about it. A CMC live disc of whats happening now appeals to me more anyway. Make that a double disc set ala Judas Priest, please. If they record some in Syracuse any chance Theo can get on stage ala Krieger? Bolle>" I understand he needs time off to recover from last year and so he's off until March...you can call Allen's off time a Recreation Vacation and basically don't come back until you're fully restored. " JS>MY CONCLUSION: Inconclusive. I had heard in the past that Allen has really been having the time of his life in BOC over the past few years, so I remain optimistic that he will return. *Maybe* he'll use the time off to do some writing for BOC's next album... Still, I have an uneasy feeling about this, not sure why... I dunno, don't think there is much to worry about here. Get a viral infection a little anemic (easy to see with Alan) and it takes a while to get over all of this. I mean these guys are getting pretty old and its not like they get to gigs in chartered planes. Rememebr Eric did this a short while ago. Only difference was he was on-stage. Not to be critical but his contibutions during this time period were nil. Now however Eric seems re-born; here's hoping a few weeks away from the grind will help Alan. Guess Buck is next in the rotation for a vacation. Bolle>Kasim Sulton is the Replacement for Allen.... I believe he'll be doing both Guitars & Keys as well as sing back ups, he's got a great voice for that. Hmmm, maybe they'll sound like a real pro outfit now with so many session musicians... It's The buck & Eric show again...The Two Oyster Cult!" JS>MY CONCLUSION: Like Steve says, it may be a great time to see the band (then again, when isn't it?). Kasim Sulton was almost the bassplayer, so I'm assuming that he's pretty talented. There's also a connection where one or two of the bandmembers (Buck I think - it's in the FAQ) played on Sulton's solo album. But, hopefully the revolving door of BOC members isn't about to pick up again. Ooooo another singer, wonderful. Lets get some vocal harmonies cooking guys. Personally I'm a bit pissed by Bolle's characterization of 2 OC. Excuse me but how long has Danny Miranda played bass, 3-4 years? At least that right? Well I saw John Rodgers and he was good. I can't remember the guy between John and Danny but he was good too. Danny however is my fave BOC bassist short of Joe himself. Danny play's his heart out and energizes these guys so lets get it straight Danny is a member of the band, not just a touring fill in. Yeah so what they don't let him write or sing leads, big deal, maybe they oughta. JS>Hey Steve, see if Bolle knows anything about this possible European remaster of Cultosaurus - it is, afterall, Bolle's favorite BOC album Ok so Bolle 's got at least two redeeeming features, he loves CE and his museum. Alright already I'll lay off the B-man, he's a pretty kewl guy anyway. Now that I'm fully vented its time to calm myself with some soothing grooves from King's X. L8er Ghost in the Ruins <----- aguywhotakeshisnamefromagreatsongbyagreatband withanowdeceasedguitarplayerwhoappearedtobeinspiredbytheGreat Buck Dharma,especiallywhenyoulistentothissongoffthealbumStreetsaRockOperawhich isquitegooddontchaknow. OB tBS cover of a Monster Magnet tune better suited for tBS anyway = Dead Christmas From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jan 27 10:51:05 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:51:05 GMT Subject: Time Blake at Alpha Centauri festival in Holland? Message-ID: I've just heard about this festival which is supposed to be happening somewhere in Holland on April 24th. Does anyone have any details? FoFP From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Jan 27 10:52:03 1999 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 10:52:03 -0500 Subject: BOC: This Ain't The Summer of Love - Imperial Dogs Version Message-ID: A little while back there was some discussion about the origins of BOC's "This Ain't The Summer of Love", and about some other version done by the Imperial Dogs. Well, I've managed to find (via Ebay, an online auction - amazing what kinds of stuff turn up there...) a copy of a 7" vinyl single by the Imperial Dogs entitled "This Ain't The Summer of Love", so I'd like to share what I found. Note to Albert Bouchard: If you need a copy of this, and you "come up for air" to read BOC-L these days ;-) then let me know. The single I have is entitled "This Ain't The Summer of Love" (credited to Imperial Dogs lead vocalist Don Waller - As we know, Don Waller has a writing credit for BOC's version). The b-side is "I'm Waiting For the Man" (written by L. Reed - I assume this is Lou Reed? Sorry, the only music I knew in the mid-70s was KISS, and later BOC). Actually, the credits for "...Summer..." are "Waller/Fitario". Musically, this sounds nothing like BOC, and lyrically, the only thing the 2 songs have in common are the words "This Ain't the Garden of Eden" and "This Ain't the Summer of Love". The back of the single says in big letters "Live in '75" (around the time BOC's version was being written), but I don't understand why as this track appears to be a studio track (either that, or the Imperial Dogs played to an audience of none that day...). The Copyright info on the disc itself has the year 1978 (which is of course AFTER the release of AoF). So, my take on all of this is that Don Waller did his own version of a song called "This Ain't The Summer of Love" with the Imperial Dogs, while BOC did their own. Waller may have contributed lyrics for both, but the music for them were created independently. Sort of like John Shirley doing his own version of "See You in Black" (although in that case both his and BOC's songs share much-more-nearly identical lyrics). John From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Jan 27 11:25:10 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:25:10 +0000 Subject: HW: In Your Area In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Alun Hughes wrote: > We'd all like Brock to write some good new songs. I would > doubt that that's just a matter of his being arsed to do it. The > problem seems to be spreading the available inspiration over > the volume of product that appears necessary to sustain the > band. The result is albums that have enough good tracks > to fill an EP, with their impact diluted by perfunctory synth > efforts for which "slight" would be the most generous word I > could find (the commendable "Elfin" aside). Personally, I'd > prefer it if they waited until they had enough decent material > for a proper album; I think the need for product can be (and > often has been) filled by live material, remixes, even some > good old-fashioned improvisation .... Agree. If this is as lack-lustre an effort as people seem to be saying, then I think we might well have been happier with that 'Live '76' album that's been sitting about ready to come out since October (according to the Mission Control page)... Yours, Jon -- /_______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 338100) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "`It's a Venusian space bassist,' said Turner the bird being." | | (Hawkwind, sleeve notes to 'Doremi Fasol Latido') | \_______________________________________________________________________/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Wed Jan 27 11:41:22 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:41:22 +0000 Subject: BOC: Me and My Big Mouth! In-Reply-To: <199901271609.JAA23612@docws002.shl.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, BREVARD, Adrian R. wrote: > Ooooo another singer, wonderful. Lets get some vocal harmonies cooking > guys. Personally I'm a bit pissed by Bolle's characterization of 2 OC. > Excuse me but how long has Danny Miranda played bass, 3-4 years? At least > that right? Well I saw John Rodgers and he was good. I can't remember the > guy between John and Danny but he was good too. Danny however is my fave > BOC bassist short of Joe himself. Danny play's his heart out and energizes > these guys so lets get it straight Danny is a member of the band, not just a > touring fill in. Yeah so what they don't let him write or sing leads, big > deal, maybe they oughta. :swallows imaginary coffee :nods emphatically I think it's long past time we saw Danny's name on a credit or two. Mind you, until HF came out that was so for any of the current line-up. I've said it before, until a song or two of his gets out, it won't look as if Danny's been accepted as part of the band by the veterans, which I think is pretty damned unfair. Yours, Jon -- /_______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 338100) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "`It's a Venusian space bassist,' said Turner the bird being." | | (Hawkwind, sleeve notes to 'Doremi Fasol Latido') | \_______________________________________________________________________/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Jan 27 11:45:11 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:45:11 +0000 Subject: BOC: A few tidbits... Message-ID: On ons 27 jan 1999 08.01 +0000 "Ted Jackson jr. s2h2" wrote: > And the last several shows I've seen these past > couple years, Allen has been even more zombie-like than usual, so I > hope he takes some time off and gets his battery recharged. His > guitar work has been okay, but he hardly plays keys anymore, and I, > for one, think that's an essential part of the BOC sound that has > been lacking in concert lately [as well as on HF] Agreed. Allen is great on keys and that was a key (NPI ;) element in Ye Olde BOC: heavy metal piano! You're right, it was under-used on HF. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Jan 27 12:09:27 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 17:09:27 +0000 Subject: HW: In Your Area Message-ID: On ons 27 jan 1999 12.01 +0000 "Alun Hughes" wrote: > there's some good back-catalogue there to reprocess, > and at least there *is* new product. I still maintain the "Mask of Morning" retread is one of Hawkwind's finest moments--certainly of this decade, but it stands up well along side the best of the back-catalog. > Personally, I'd > prefer it if they waited until they had enough decent material > for a proper album; I think the need for product can be (and > often has been) filled by live material, remixes, even some > good old-fashioned improvisation .... Well, the mighty Spacious Mind have built a fairly decent rep on making albums that sound like all the wildest, spaciest bits of ISOS--mostly improv as far as I can tell, and they do it well. Always have more guitar parts than synth parts--that's the trick :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jan 27 13:12:38 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 18:12:38 GMT Subject: OFF: Delerium list Message-ID: I seem to be on the Delerium/Freakbeat New Issues email list which features such bands as: Breithand, John Fallon, Moom, Farflung, Five Fifteen, Masters Apprentice, Missus Beastly and On Trial (who are supposed to sound a bit like Monster Magnet). I haven't heard of any of them except Farflung but if anyone would like a copy of the list let me know and I'll forward it to you. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Jan 27 12:29:27 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:29:27 EDT Subject: BOC: Me and My Big Mouth! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: Jonathan Jarrett > On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, BREVARD, Adrian R. wrote: > > > Excuse me but how long has Danny Miranda played bass, 3-4 years? At least > > that right? Well I saw John Rodgers and he was good. I can't remember the > > guy between John and Danny but he was good too. Danny however is my fave > > BOC bassist short of Joe himself. Danny play's his heart out and energizes > > these guys so lets get it straight Danny is a member of the band, not just a > > touring fill in. Yeah so what they don't let him write or sing leads, big > > deal, maybe they oughta. > > :swallows imaginary coffee > :nods emphatically > > I think it's long past time we saw Danny's name on a credit or > two. Mind you, until HF came out that was so for any of the current > line-up. I've said it before, until a song or two of his gets out, it > won't look as if Danny's been accepted as part of the band by the > veterans, which I think is pretty damned unfair. Yours, > Jon Couldn't agree more! DM's super talented on bass, and his backing vox are darned good. He should be given a shot at writing. I mean, it's not like BOC is overflowing with songs, right? theo From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Jan 27 14:26:55 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:26:55 -0800 Subject: HW: Strange Nik-post from NG Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:04:34 EST, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: >Subject: Attention Hawkwind FansFrom: eriksongs at aol.com (Eriksongs) >Date: Mon, Jan 25, 1999 16:34 EST >Message-id: <19990125163445.20420.00002961 at ng-fx1.aol.com> > >Nik Turner is or was on tour whith Nik Turner's Hawkwind. AVOID THIS AT ALL >COSTS IF YOU VALUE YOUR EARS AND SANITY. Undefinable noise at extreme volume. Hmmmm ... this IS true, since I once witnessed a friend losing his sanity at a Nik Turner show (the incident is recounted in Monoshock's song, "Hawkwind Show"). Apparently he was under the belief that one mr. (apparently soon-to-be ms.) Genesis P-Orridge was using him to test experimental psychedelic drugs on. Fortunately, he re-discovered his sanity the next day, after the mushrooms wore off. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From iplug at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Jan 27 17:23:30 1999 From: iplug at HOTMAIL.COM (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 14:23:30 -0800 Subject: This Ain't The Summer of Love - Imperial Dogs Version Message-ID: >The b-side is "I'm Waiting For the >Man" (written by L. Reed - I assume this is Lou Reed? Sorry, the >only >music I knew in the mid-70s was KISS, and later BOC). Yes, that was Lou from his heroin soaked Velvet Underground days... (actually late 60's I believe..) JB "Whatever you do, take care of your shoes.." -- Phish "So Ladies, Fish and Gentlemen, here's my angled dream.." -- Blue Oyster Cult ----- Original Message ----- From: John A Swartz Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 1999 7:52 AM Subject: BOC: This Ain't The Summer of Love - Imperial Dogs Version >A little while back there was some discussion about the origins of BOC's >"This Ain't The Summer of Love", and about some other version done by the >Imperial Dogs. Well, I've managed to find (via Ebay, an online auction - >amazing what kinds of stuff turn up there...) a copy of a 7" vinyl single >by the Imperial Dogs entitled "This Ain't The Summer of Love", so I'd >like to share what I found. > >Note to Albert Bouchard: If you need a copy of this, and you "come up for >air" to read BOC-L these days ;-) then let me know. > >The single I have is entitled "This Ain't The Summer of Love" (credited to >Imperial Dogs lead vocalist Don Waller - As we know, Don Waller has a >writing credit for BOC's version). The b-side is "I'm Waiting For the >Man" (written by L. Reed - I assume this is Lou Reed? Sorry, the only >music I knew in the mid-70s was KISS, and later BOC). Actually, the >credits for "...Summer..." are "Waller/Fitario". Musically, this sounds >nothing like BOC, and lyrically, the only thing the 2 songs have in common >are the words "This Ain't the Garden of Eden" and "This Ain't the Summer >of Love". The back of the single says in big letters "Live in '75" (around >the time BOC's version was being written), but I don't understand why as >this track appears to be a studio track (either that, or the Imperial Dogs >played to an audience of none that day...). The Copyright info on the disc >itself has the year 1978 (which is of course AFTER the release of AoF). > >So, my take on all of this is that Don Waller did his own version of a >song called "This Ain't The Summer of Love" with the Imperial Dogs, while >BOC did their own. Waller may have contributed lyrics for both, but >the music for them were created independently. Sort of like John Shirley >doing his own version of "See You in Black" (although in that case both >his and BOC's songs share much-more-nearly identical lyrics). > >John From brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Jan 27 17:24:27 1999 From: brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:24:27 -0000 Subject: HW: in your area In-Reply-To: <199901271000.FAA16113@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On the subject of In your Area we should be grateful there are few bands still going as long as the Hawks and still putting out albums worth listening to at all. At the same time I recieved IYA I also got Hawklords Live which is Calvert on top form the version of Over the top seems to be the Same one as on the Sonic Assasins EP could anyone confirm. One thought a collected Sonic Assasins CD might be an idea for a future Hawkwind Passport release. From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Jan 27 17:27:24 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:27:24 -0000 Subject: HW: in your area In-Reply-To: <003301be4a43$ccfc3ea0$2a05883e@default> Message-ID: > On the subject of In your Area we should be grateful there are few bands > still going as long as the Hawks and still putting out albums worth > listening to at all. Oh, absolutely! I've played IYA through about 4 times already today! > At the same time I recieved IYA I also got Hawklords Live which > is Calvert > on top form the version of Over the top seems to be the Same one as on the > Sonic Assasins EP could anyone confirm. > One thought a collected Sonic Assasins CD might be an idea for a future > Hawkwind Passport release. Weird 101 on CD would be nice, yes! :) Although the one I'm waiting for is the live 1976 one... BTW, I see that my cheque for HW97 has been cashed, so presumably the disc will soon be on its way! - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Jan 27 17:37:20 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 22:37:20 -0000 Subject: HW: In Your Area Message-ID: I just got mine. I found the live stuff to be quite superb. The rest of it worked well for the most part, although I did feel a bit cheated by "I Am The Reptoid" a full live version would've gone down much better (HW 97 hopefully will have this). "Hippy" was great and "Your Fantasy" was much stronger than the live recordings I have from the '97 tour. All in all a a damn good album, I thought. More satisfying than "Distant Horizons" on the whole. I can't believe that Doug dismissed it as crap and refused to release it. Nick From flossbac at NLCI.COM Wed Jan 27 19:59:01 1999 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (John Majka) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 19:59:01 -0500 Subject: HW: In Your Area In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think you've summed up very effectively the situation in which Hawkwind find themselves. Of course I have no personal knowledge of the financial situation in the Hawkwind camp, but I am guessing that like most aging musicians of the non-mainstream variety, Brock and the rest do not have the more financially secure retirement income that a typical worker has. Many musicians wind up digging themselves into a hole which requires them to be constantly scrambling to make ends meet, and I can only imagine the situation as Hawkwind gets older and expenses become higher while interest in the band gets ever smaller. Probably the "raw skills" factor in Hawkwind has never been at a weaker point than it is right now... of course Brock is Brock (our genius in residence), and Richard is probably the strongest drummer they've ever had, but Ron as a bass player, although passable, leaves something to be desired after all those years with virtuosos Alan and Lemmy. Captain Rizz, in my opinion, adds nothing fresh or interesting to the band...rather, sadly, I consider him a nuisance I hope will go away promptly! Jerry Richards is a good guitar playing but, let's be honest, he's no Huw-Lloyd Langton....either in aesthetic style or in technique. The Hawks have a lot of weak areas right now....their musical direction seems unfocused, unclear, and although I think Dave and Richard are very very strong musically, it's just not enough to carry the rest of the band. The keyboard playing in particular has become extremely dull and simplistic. How much i miss Harvey Bainbridge! I feel as though the band may be splintering before our eyes, unable to pull together into a cohesive unit, and so we see the many many many recycled/re-written/live/half-baked half-assed noodling on recent records. And as for that story about Distant Horizons being some unfinished demo tapes that Doug Smith released....I don't mean to be cynical, but I'm not buying it! I find it hard to believe that Hawkwind is so "out of control" that they can't even control the content of a new album. Every other band on earth seems to have total and utter control over what they put onto the market as a "new album" and I expect Hawkwind has the same. I am of course not speaking of the bootleg and other material (Acid Daze, Yuri Gagarin etc etc) that floods the catalog. To claim Distant Horizons was a half-finished demo sounds to me like rationalizing to explain its dearth of material. Of course I'd rather have at least a so-so album rather than no album at all, but still.... John Majka flossbac at nlci.com At 12:01 PM 1/27/99 +0000, you wrote: >I think we'd have to say this is exactly as expected. Without >wishing to be too down on it, it's an accurate reflection of >where the band are at the moment: the difficulty of coming >up with strong new material and the consequent retreads; >the lack of a lyric writer; the execrable Capt Rizz; the poor >quality control. But what they hell, they still sound like no-one >else, there's some good back-catalogue there to reprocess, >and at least there *is* new product. > >We'd all like Brock to write some good new songs. I would >doubt that that's just a matter of his being arsed to do it. The >problem seems to be spreading the available inspiration over >the volume of product that appears necessary to sustain the >band. The result is albums that have enough good tracks >to fill an EP, with their impact diluted by perfunctory synth >efforts for which "slight" would be the most generous word I >could find (the commendable "Elfin" aside). Personally, I'd >prefer it if they waited until they had enough decent material >for a proper album; I think the need for product can be (and >often has been) filled by live material, remixes, even some >good old-fashioned improvisation .... > >Alun > > From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Jan 27 21:08:15 1999 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 02:08:15 GMT Subject: HW: Strange Nik-post from NG In-Reply-To: Doug Pearson's message of Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:26:55 -0800 Message-ID: Doug Pearson writes: > On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 21:04:34 EST, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > > >Subject: Attention Hawkwind FansFrom: eriksongs at aol.com (Eriksongs) > >Date: Mon, Jan 25, 1999 16:34 EST > >Message-id: <19990125163445.20420.00002961 at ng-fx1.aol.com> > > > >Nik Turner is or was on tour whith Nik Turner's Hawkwind. AVOID THIS AT ALL > >COSTS IF YOU VALUE YOUR EARS AND SANITY. Undefinable noise at extreme > volume. > > Hmmmm ... this IS true, since I once witnessed a friend losing his sanity > at a Nik Turner show (the incident is recounted in Monoshock's song, hmmm - on reflection I remember a Nik Turner show that was astonishingly better than I had expected, followed by an interview in a broom cupboard, a ride in the back of a van across London to some strange destination, a further interview in someone's sitting room and a wierd taxi ride to somewhere south of the Thames at some hour of the morning so ridiculous that nothing of any kind was stirring in the streets at all. London was empty. Unique! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET Wed Jan 27 23:05:31 1999 From: corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 23:05:31 -0500 Subject: HW: in your area Message-ID: Isnt it strange that I was thinking the same thing driving home yesterday, I mean fans of genesis. Pink floyd and other "prog" bands would die to have fairly fresh stuff coming from their favorite bands. Me, I am disappointed sure, but still it is great to have something fresh to play. Well back to the grind Mike Brian Coulthard wrote: > On the subject of In your Area we should be grateful there are few bands > still going as long as the Hawks and still putting out albums worth > listening to at all. > At the same time I recieved IYA I also got Hawklords Live which is Calvert > on top form the version of Over the top seems to be the Same one as on the > Sonic Assasins EP could anyone confirm. > One thought a collected Sonic Assasins CD might be an idea for a future > Hawkwind Passport release. From corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET Thu Jan 28 00:44:45 1999 From: corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 00:44:45 -0500 Subject: Alien 4 Message-ID: Ok now I have DH and IYA (obtained less than a month apart) where the heck do I find Alien 4?? No one seems to have it. MIke From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Wed Jan 27 23:10:20 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 04:10:20 +0000 Subject: BOC: Me and My Big Mouth! Message-ID: > Couldn't agree more! DM's super talented on bass, and his backing > vox are darned good. He should be given a shot at writing. I mean, > it's not like BOC is overflowing with songs, right? > > theo Does anybody know if he actually HAS anything to contribute? Does he write? Is he doing so? Maybe the reason he doesn't have any songs on HF is because he didn't write any. I don't know this...just a possibility. -- Nick From hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Jan 28 05:10:32 1999 From: hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET (D Witt) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 04:10:32 -0600 Subject: HW: wizard who blew his nose Message-ID: > Oh god, that was me... all I remember is > > We are humanity's hanky > Which will wipe the snot away > As if it never existed Anybody who seriously wants the lyrics might try the archives. I think search on "humanity's hanky" would surely turn up the post. From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Jan 28 05:24:42 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:24:42 +0000 Subject: HW: in your area Message-ID: On ons 27 jan 1999 23.05 -0500 "Michael S. Habiby" wrote: > Isnt it strange that I was thinking the same thing driving home yesterday, I > mean fans of genesis. Pink floyd and other "prog" bands would die to have > fairly fresh stuff coming from their favorite bands. Me, I am disappointed > sure, but still it is great to have something fresh to play. Yes, but I reserve my most serious criticism for my favorite bands, new or not :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jan 28 04:20:55 1999 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:20:55 -0000 Subject: HW: In Your Area Message-ID: Maybe list members should write some new material for them then! Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ -----Original Message----- From: John Majka To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Thursday, January 28, 1999 1:19 AM Subject: Re: HW: In Your Area >I think you've summed up very effectively the situation in which Hawkwind >find themselves. Of course I have no personal knowledge of the financial >situation in the Hawkwind camp, but I am guessing that like most aging >musicians of the non-mainstream variety, Brock and the rest do not have the >more financially secure retirement income that a typical worker has. Many >musicians wind up digging themselves into a hole which requires them to be >constantly scrambling to make ends meet, and I can only imagine the >situation as Hawkwind gets older and expenses become higher while interest >in the band gets ever smaller. Probably the "raw skills" factor in >Hawkwind has never been at a weaker point than it is right now... of course >Brock is Brock (our genius in residence), and Richard is probably the >strongest drummer they've ever had, but Ron as a bass player, although >passable, leaves something to be desired after all those years with >virtuosos Alan and Lemmy. Captain Rizz, in my opinion, adds nothing fresh >or interesting to the band...rather, sadly, I consider him a nuisance I >hope will go away promptly! Jerry Richards is a good guitar playing but, >let's be honest, he's no Huw-Lloyd Langton....either in aesthetic style or >in technique. The Hawks have a lot of weak areas right now....their >musical direction seems unfocused, unclear, and although I think Dave and From Hawkfan at ZAROZINIA.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Jan 28 05:37:05 1999 From: Hawkfan at ZAROZINIA.DEMON.CO.UK (Dave) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:37:05 +0000 Subject: I Do like to be beside the seaside In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The HAWK LOGS Master Series Vol. 1 "I Do Like to be beside the seaside" CD came today. Nati is a new song for me sounds like Tim Blake singing. Any one have any other info on this track. It's a three track (12 Song) CD, Sounds OK on first quick listen. Cover is plain paper from an inkjet printer. The flyer that came with it says it's the first of a series. the next is entitled Archives. (Also available from Vinyl Addiction ?19.99 Limited 75 copies) track list BBC Archive 1- Assault & Battery 2- Night of the Hawks 3- Thet got your number (?) 4- Magnu 5- Blue Angel/Dreamworker 6- Dust of time Crystal Place Bowl 1985 7- Intro 8- Coded Languages 9- Angels of Death 10-Needle Gun 11-Brainstorm Bonus Tracks 12-Vanishing Point 13-Final Day 14-Masters of the Universe -- Dave From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Thu Jan 28 05:26:15 1999 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (Scott Heller) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:26:15 +0200 Subject: OFF.Delerium Message-ID: Jill wrote: From: J Strobridge Subject: OFF: Delerium list I seem to be on the Delerium/Freakbeat New Issues email list which features such bands as: Breithand, John Fallon, Moom, Farflung, Five Fifteen, Masters Apprentice, Missus Beastly and On Trial (who are supposed to sound a bit like Monster Magnet). Moom sound quite a lot like a more guitar driven version of Caravan. The new one I have not heard but it is suppose to be more west coast like, Jefferson Airplane, Quicksilver Messenger Service,e tc.. The last Farflung CD was excellent. Much better than the first two. I have high hopes for the new one. The new FIve Fifteen is totally excellent! The extra live CD that comes with the first 500 copies is great as well. These guys have a very unique style all their own, taking influences and the name from the Who and other hard rock styles from the 70's but with dual male and female vocals, coll strange lyrics and a really psych feel.. Cool finnish band. The Masters Apprentice rerelease must sound great. Cool record. As for the danish band On Trial (friends of mine), the new one is a mind blower! They are like SPine of God era monster magnet meets Roky Erickson! That is the best description. This new CD coming in March is their 4th record and their best. SCott ObCs- Alien Planetscapes- Life on Earth Demos R. Scott Heller PhD Hagedorn Research Institute Department of Developmental Biology Niels Steensensvej 6 DK 2820 Gentofte Denmark (45) 44 43 91 37 Phone (45) 44 43 80 00 Fax shll at hagedorn.dk Http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/stage/7713 From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Jan 28 06:25:34 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 11:25:34 +0000 Subject: OFF: On Trial Message-ID: On tor 28 jan 1999 12.26 +0200 "Scott Heller" wrote: > As for the danish band On Trial (friends of mine), the new one is a mind > blower! They are like SPine of God era monster magnet meets Roky Erickson! > That is the best description. This new CD coming in March is their 4th > record and their best. The good Mr. Jarrett of this list picked one of their albums up recently--lured by the "more psychedelic Monster Magnet" tag--and was pretty blown away by it! Having heard it, I have to agree. Excellent band. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jan 28 07:01:47 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:01:47 GMT Subject: I Do like to be beside the seaside In-Reply-To: Dave's message of Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:37:05 +0000 Message-ID: Dave writes: > The HAWK LOGS Master Series Vol. 1 "I Do Like to be beside the seaside" > CD came today. > > Nati is a new song for me sounds like Tim Blake singing. Any one have > any other info on this track. Yes, it's a Tim Blake track. It's on Mjick I think. Waiting for Nati ================ ????????????? It was bursting out in Spring An energy to drown everything You and I ????? ????? love On the first day I did declare to you Not before I never felt the way I do You and I We fell in love Now it's Spring again Yes a whole year has passed And that old cosmic magic has worked at last It's your birthday ??????????? It's there for all to see Yes it's growing and feeling ????? Nati, Nati You made me feel a man at last And she's waiting and breathing And loving and feeling And you to me Nati ???? child of love Oh little child of freedom Shine like a god You made me feel a man at last And we're living and breathing And feeling and loving And you for me From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jan 28 07:02:42 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:02:42 GMT Subject: Weird Records Message-ID: Looks like Wolden Studios are still in action for those that don't yet have the 8 Weird tapes. They just replaced my broken Weird 104. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jan 28 07:04:01 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:04:01 GMT Subject: Hawkwind live tracks Message-ID: Work continues on this list. It looks like the last stumper is Brainstorm/blue dreamer from the Travellers Aid Trust album. It's hard to say even which year this came from. If anyone knows, or has any thoughts on this, I'd be most interested. FoFP From AgentOF at AOL.COM Thu Jan 28 08:01:20 1999 From: AgentOF at AOL.COM (Chuck Saden) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 08:01:20 EST Subject: BOC: Me and My Big Mouth! Message-ID: In a message dated 1/28/99 4:07:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, nick at THECAMPUS.COM writes: << Does anybody know if he actually HAS anything to contribute? Does he write? Is he doing so? Maybe the reason he doesn't have any songs on HF is because he didn't write any. I don't know this...just a possibility. Nick, Danny most definitely writes. In Clarksville, Danny was talking about writing for his other band, Pyramid, with George Cintron. With Danny being able to play keys, sax, lead AND bass, I think Danny has many talents that aren't immediately seen in the BOC format. And an added bonus is how happy go lucky he is . chuck From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Jan 28 08:14:33 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 13:14:33 +0000 Subject: I Do like to be beside the seaside In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Dave writes >Crystal Place Bowl 1985 >7- Intro >8- Coded Languages >9- Angels of Death >10-Needle Gun >11-Brainstorm That was a good day out, I (vaguely) seem to remember! -- Jon From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Thu Jan 28 09:36:43 1999 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:36:43 -0500 Subject: BOC: Me and My Big Mouth! Message-ID: >Couldn't agree more! DM's super talented on bass, and his backing vox are darned good. He should be given a shot at writing. I mean, it's not like BOC is overflowing with songs, right? Agreed, and from what I hear, Danny does write songs. However, my perception is that he didn't write material for Heaven Forbid for the simple reason that most, if not all the material for Heaven Forbid was written by the time Danny joined the band in '95. Remember, BOC was trying to get an album deal since around '92 or so, and many songs on HF have been played live since at least '94. With rumors that CMC will do another BOC album in the future, I would hope that Danny would have some writing credits on it. John PS: BTW, the reason I believe Bolle referred to the current lineup as "Two Oyster Cult", even though Danny's an established member is because the "2" refers to ORIGINAL members. I don't believe Danny (or Bobby for that matter) is treated as a "hired hand" - although Buck and Eric seem to have been in charge for the last 10 years. But, I don't interpret the "Two Oyster Cult" comment as a knock against Danny or Bobby -- besides, the band will be the first one's to say that Danny and Bobby are full-fledged bandmembers. "3OC" and "2 Oyster Cult" are names given to them by us fans, not the band. From abrevard at SHL.COM Thu Jan 28 10:35:50 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 09:35:50 -0600 Subject: BOC: Danny and HF Message-ID: >Does anybody know if he actually HAS anything to contribute? Does he >write? Is he doing so? Maybe the reason he doesn't have any songs on >HF is because he didn't write any. I don't know this...just a >possibility. >-- Nick Toes firmly in my mouth...believe most of the songs on HF were written before Danny joined years ago. I know they were playing SYIB, HM and PUD before Danny ever stepped on stage. Danny does provide some good vocals. I'm sure he could belt out a few numbers like Hot Rails to Hell. Ghost in the Ruins "So he says to me you gotta do something smart baby, something big. Says you want to be a super villain right? And I go yeah baby, yeah yeah, what do I got to do? And he says you got bombs blow up the Comet Club its packed with Superheros, you'll go down in super villain history and I go yeah baby cause I'm the Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight." - Evil Midnight Bomber From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Jan 28 11:13:49 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:13:49 GMT Subject: Hawkwind Live List Message-ID: Here's the state of the list we were working on at the end of last year. The most glaring missing item is the TAT tracks which I figure are sometime between 1985 and 1988 but it's hard to say from when. I could also use the recording time/place of the VH-1 show. Anyway, here's the list. Comments to me please. Cheers FoFP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Live Record name Recorded Source Town ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Text Of Festival 18.8.70,19.4.71,19.5.71 CD+LP London Bring Me the Head of Yuri.. 23.05.1973 CD+LP London Greasy Truckers Party 13.02.72 LP London Glastonbury Fayre 13.02.72 LP London Brian Matthews Show 02.08.1972 LP London Maida Vale BBC Transcription Disc 28.09.72 LP London Paris Cinema Space Ritual 22 & 30.12.1972 CD+LP Liverpool & Brixton Space Ritual II 30.12.1972 CD+LP London Roadhawks 30.12.1972 CD+LP London Hall Of The Mountain Grill 26.01.1974 CD+LP London The 1999 Party 21.03.1974 CD Chicago Sonic Assassins 23.12.1977 EP Barnstaple PXR5 ??.??.1977 CD+LP ???? Hawklords Live 24.11.1978 CD Uxbridge Live 79 08.12.1979 CD+LP St.Albans Civic Hall Glastonbury Festival 20.06.1981 Cass. Worthy Farm Zones 31.10.82+18.12.80 CD+LP Bristol, London Out And Intake 12.11.1982 CD+LP London+ ??? Do Not Panic 18.12.80,21.6.84 CD+LP London + Stonehenge Undisclosed Files 27.11.1984 & ?.82 &?.88 CD+LP Sheffield + ???? Hawkfan 12" 27.11.1984 & ??? LP & Cass. Sheffield... Chronicle of the Black Sword 22.04.88 CD+LP London+ ??? Live Chronicles 03.12.1985 CD+LP London Bristol Bike Show 20.06.86 LP Bristol Live at Reading '86 24.08.1986 CD Reading Festival Travellers Aid Trust ??.??.1988 & ??? CD+LP ?? ?? Palace Springs 10.10.1989 CD+LP Los Angeles California Brainstorm 16.12.1990 CD Oakland Never Ending Story of.. 05.11.1990 CD Leicester The Business Trip Nov-Dec.1993 CD+LP Slough,Hastings... Love in Space 19.10.1996 CD+LP Bristol Love in Space EP 19.10.1996 EP Bristol Wir Sind Kinder der Revolte 21.07.1996 CD Burg Herzberg W101 - Sonic Assassins 23.12.1977 Cass. Barnstaple W102 - Hawkwind/Hawklords 22.06.1977 Cass. Stonehenge W103 - Free Festivals 22.06.77 & 23.08.75 Cass. Watchfld&Stonehenge W104 - Hawklords Live 23.11.1978 Cass. Plymouth W105 - Hawkwind 76-77 05.10.76&??.06.77 Cass. London & ??? W106 - Hawkwind 1970/73 Various dates Cass. London + ??? W108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 Various dates Cass. Independent Days Various dates LPs London + ??? Friends & Relations Various dates LP&CD Acid Daze Various dates LP&CD Ambient Anarchists Various dates LP&CD Ambient Anarchists Various dates CD Early years Live Various dates EP Friends & Relations Various dates CD+LP Early years Live Various dates EP Friends & Relations Various dates CD+LP The EBS Samples Various dates CD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bootleg name Recorded Source Town ================================================================ Kinetic Playground 13.12.1971 CD Birmingham Kinetic Space Rock From London 28.09.1972 CD London Paris Theatre Spacerock from London 28.09.1972 CD London Mind Journey 10.08.1975 Acet. Glasgow Atomhenge 76 27.09.1976 CD-R Bristol Colston Hall Live At Watchf. and Stoneh. 22.06.77 & 23.08.75 LP Watchfield&Stonehenge A Quark Night in Paris 23.04.1977 CD-R Paris Live at the Bottom Line 06.03.1978 LP New York Live-St.Albans '79 08.12.1979 CD St.Albans Golden Void 19.10.1982 LP Glasgow Live At Stonehenge 22.06.1983 LP Stonehenge Damnation Alley 04.10.1989 CD-R Minneapolis Cyberspace Conspiracy 25.01.1990 LP Nottingham Kings Of Speed, LoL 08.10.1991 CD Bochum Secret Tepee 19.05.1992 CD-R Reading Rock City 16.11.1993 CD Nottingham The A Files 23.04.1995 CD-R Boulder Orgasmatron different dates CD Dawn of Hawkwind different dates CD Assasins Of Allah different dates LP Nova Drive different dates CD-R Timeless Paens different dates CD-R Corridor of Flame different dates CD-R Theta Orionis 25.01.90 & 11.11.93 CD Nottingham,Cambridge -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nova Drive 1995/9 CD-R (Discontent DISC20470 - US) ---------- 4pg inlay with blank foldout. Cover with white background. Very few released with a slightly different cover - light grey background. The very small run of a total of 35 pcs depended on the appearance of "Terra Mystica", which made Doug Smith roar a bit. The last track is a chant from the middle of LSD. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Born To Go 28.05.84 Ramsgate, Marina Park Spirit of the Age 13.11.94 Koln, Live Music Hall Nova Drive 10.11.80 Doncaster, Rotters Alien 23.04.95 Boulder, Fox Theatre Silver Machine 08.04.95 Springfield, Jaxx Sputnik Stan 23.04.95 Boulder, Fox Theatre Wastelands 22.04.88 London, Hammy Odeon Cold War Kid 06.10.78 Oxford, New Theatre Damage of Life 03.06.89 Woolwich, Coronet Paradox 08.11.86 Birmingham, Odeon Magnu 07.10.89 San Francisco, Stone Doremifasolatido 23.04.89 Boulder, Fox Theatre -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Timeless Paens 1996 CD-R (Nova Drive - US) -------------- Standard CD-Recordable disc. Tracks recorded from various venues and dates, mainly from late 80's or later. The idea was to have new (80's & 90's) versions of Space Ritual-era songs. Some in the early run had a defect with a lot of sparkle, cracks and dropouts. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Brainstorm 18.05.1991 Detroit Latin Quarter Paranoia 12.10.1991 Tilburg Nooderligt Down Through The Night 07.10.1989 San Francisco Stone You Shouldn't Do That 23.04.1995 Boulder Fox Theatre Urban Guerilla 23.04.1995 Boulder Fox Theatre Only Dreamning 13.11.1994 Koln Live Music Hall Born To Go 21.02.1984 Sheffield City Hall 10 Seconds Of Forever 21.02.1984 Sheffield City Hall 7 By 7 24.04.1992 Brighton Event Time We Left 24.04.1992 Brighton Event Master Of The Universe 17.05.1991 St.Catherines Hideaway Be Yourself 25.04.1993 Tilburg Nooderligt Sonic Attack 22.04.1988 London Hammersmith Silver Machine 13.10.1981 Bradford St.Georges Hall Welcome 23.04.1995 Boulder Fox Theatre -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Corridor Of Flame 1996 CD-R (Nova Drive - US) ----------------- 4pg inlay with 'Golden Void' lyrics. Both disc and front cover is numbered. Two different tracklist versions exist - with or without "Time for Sale" Tracks is recorded from various venues and dates, over the whole career of Hawkwind. First appearance of Beast of Chaos and Waiting for My Man. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Tech.of Spaceship Earth 13.12.71 Birmingham Kinetic Playground Void of Golden Light 23.04.95 Boulder Fox Theatre Lost Chronicles 01.10.88 Clyro Court Festival Mark of Cain 01.06.85 Folkestone Leas Cliffe Hall The Secret Agent 29.04.93 Utrecht Tivoli Beast of Chaos 16.10.71 Potter's Bar Elm Court Crystal Void 06.07.91 London Brixton Academy Steppenwolf 12.11.82 Hammersmith Odeon Lord of Light 28.10.95 Berlin Marquee Cajun Jinx 27.11.86 Hammersmith Odeon Phone Home Elliott 15.11.82 Chippenham Goldigger's Club Age of the Micro Man 05.04.95 St.Catherine's Hideaway Waiting For My Man 27.02.77 London Roundhouse PXR5 06.12.79 Preston Guild Hall The Golden Void 27.10.81 Oxford Apollo Theatre -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Orgasmatron 1992 (Bootleg CD) (Cargo CARGOCD22 - UK) ----------- 2pg inlay - flipside is blank. Sleeve notes. Limited edition of 500 copies. First album appearance of New Jerusalem and Starfarers Despatch. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE The Right Stuff 16.04.85 ECT TV Soundtrack Angels of Death 16.04.85 ECT TV Soundtrack New Jerusalem 04.12.79 Ipswich Gaumont Starfarers Despatch 12.12.71 Birmingham Kinetic Playground Master of the Universe 12.12.71 Birmingham Kinetic Playground Mask of Morning 24.04.92 Brighton Event Images 02.07.90 Bournemouth Academy Brainstorm 20.06.84 Stonehenge Magnu 24.08.85 Crystal Palace Shot Down In The Night 22.04.88 Hammersmith Odeon Silver Machine 12.12.71 Birmingham Kinetic Playground -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Text Of Festival: Live 1970-2 (Illuminated/DemiMonde 1983) -------------------- Sides 1 and 2 reissued as In The Beginning & Masters of the Universe TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Master Of The Universe 18.08.70 London Dreaming 18.08.70 London Shouldn't Do That 18.08.70 London Hurry On A Sundown 05.11.70 London Paranoia 05.11.70 London Seeing It As.... 05.11.70 London I Do It 05.11.70 London Sound..Shouldn't... 19.04.71 London Improvise..Compromise.. 19.05.71 London -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Assassins of Allah 1994 Bootleg LP (blank label, HWD3 in runout groove - UK) ------------------ Poor man 'inlay' cover with a 3" wraparound. Limited edition of 300 copies, numbered. Contains rare Hawkwind vinyl tracks. Cover art is a sacred Islam painting. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Master of the Universe Greasy Truckers Party Born To Go Greasy Truckers Party Silver Machine Glastonbury Fayre Welcome to the Future Glastonbury Fayre Assassins of Allah Live at Reading '86 Master of the Universe Bristol Bikeshow Paranoia Bristol Bikeshow Silver Machine Bristol Bikeshow -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greasy Trucker's Party (with various artists) (UA) ---------------------- One of two Double LP recordings of multiple artists from the "Greasy Truckers Party". TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Master of the Universe 13.02.72 London Roundhouse Born To Go 13.02.72 London Roundhouse Glastonbury Fayre (with various artists) (Revelation) ----------------- Triple LP of various artists at early Glastonbury Festivals at Worthy Farm. While Hawkwind did appear in the early days, and in fact had early rehearsals at the farm, the track on the album was from the Greasy Truckers Party. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Silver Machine 13.02.72 London Roundhouse -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Matthews Show : BBC Transcription Disk 1972 ------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Silver Machine 02.08.72 London Maida Vale Brainstorm 02.08.72 London Maida Vale -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dawn Of Hawkwind 1994 CD Bootleg ---------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Silver Machine BBC Brian Mathews Show Brainstorm BBC Brian Mathews Show Master of the Universe Greasy Truckers Announcements Greasy Truckers Born To Go Greasy Truckers Silver Machine Glastonbury Fayre Welcome to the Future Glastonbury Fayre Dawn/Sunrise 28.06.72 Trentishoe Frisco Jam 17.12.90 San Francisco Silver Machine Bristol Bikeshow Paranoia Bristol Bikeshow Master of the Universe Bristol Bikeshow Needle Gun 19.11.85 Aberdeen Capitol -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hall Of The Mountain Grill -------------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE You'd Better Believe It 26.01.74 London Edmonton Sundown Paradox 26.01.74 London Edmonton Sundown -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Watchfield/Stonehenge (Festival HAWK1 - UK LP) [Also Weird 103] --------------------- Original has "Hawkwind Roadies Erecting Scenery" cover. Label says band is "The Hawks", credit goes to "Bob and the Hawks" Rereleased in various covers and with various titles, "Live and Buzzing", "Alive and Kicking" and "Live at Stonehenge". Bootleg of Weird 103 tape. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE High Rise 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival Damnation Alley 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival Uncle Sam's on Mars 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival Robot 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival Cake Out 23.08.75 Watchfield Festival Circles 23.08.75 Watchfield Festival Elements 23.08.75 Watchfield Festival -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 ---------------------------- There were two versions of this tape released, the second being released when the earlier one was withdrawn. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE (a) Back on the Streets 05.10.76 London Hammersmith Paranoia 05.10.76 London Hammersmith Chronoglide Skyway 05.10.76 London Hammersmith Back on the Streets 05.10.76 London Hammersmith Assassins of Allah 27.02.77 London Roundhouse Forge of Vulcan 27.02.77 London Roundhouse Steppenwolf 27.02.77 London Roundhouse (b) Brainstorm 27.02.77 London Roundhouse Wind of Change 27.02.77 London Roundhouse -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PXR5 (Charisma 1978) The original LP came with a wrongly wired plug on the back cover which was covered with a sticker and finallt removed in later releases. The original LP also came with an offer to obtain Pete Frame's Hawkwind Family Tree Poster. The version of High Rise on the CD is different to that on the LP. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Robot late.77 ? ? High Rise [LP] late.77 ? ? High Rise [CD] late.77 ? ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zones (Flicknife 1983) ----- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE The Island 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon Motorway City 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon Utopia 84 31.10.82 Bristol Colston Hall Social Alliance 31.10.82 Bristol Colston Hall Sonic Attack 31.10.82 Bristol Colston Hall Dream Worker 31.10.82 Bristol Colston Hall Brainstorm 31.10.82 Bristol Colston Hall -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stonehenge (This Is Hawkwind/Do Not Panic) (Flicknife 1984 LP & EP) ---------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Psy Power 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon Levitation 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon Circles 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon Space Chase 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon Death Trap 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon Angels Of Death 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon Shot Down In The Night 18.12.80 London Lewisham Odeon Stonehenge Decoded 21.06.84 Stonehenge Festival Watching The Grass Grow 21.06.84 Stonehenge Festival -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Undisclosed Files (1995 LP) ----------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Orgone Accumulator 27.11.84 Sheffield University Sonic Attack 27.11.84 Sheffield University Watching The Grass Grow 27.11.84 Sheffield University Curse of Man 27.11.84 Sheffield University Ghost Dance [CD] 27.11.84 Sheffield University Master ot Universe [LP] late.88 ? ? Coded Languages [LP] late.88 ? ? Coded Languages [CD] late.88 ? ? Ejection late.88 ? ? Motorway City late.88 ? ? Dragons and Fables late.88 ? ? Heads late.88 ? ? Angels of Death late.88 ? ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Out & Intake ------------ TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Turner Point late.82 ? ? (soundcheck) Waiting for Tomorrow late.82 ? ? Solitary Mind Games late.82 ? ? Assassins of Allah ??.??.86 ? ? Ghost Dance late.82 ? ? Warrior on the Edge[CD] 12.11.82 London Hammersmith Odeon -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Travellers Aid Trust (Double LP 1988) -------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Brainstorm ? ? ? Blue Dreamer ? ? ? Washing Machine 01.10.1988 Clyro Court -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THETA ORIONIS [Bootleg CD - UK 1996) ------------- 4pg inlay with pics of Calvert in psychedelia pattern. Pic disc. Contains various live tracks, BBC session and rare vinyl tracks. TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Night of the Hawk 25.01.90 Nottingham Rock City Back In The Box 25.01.90 Nottingham Rock City Right To Decide 11.11.93 Cambridge Junction Quark,Strangeness&Charm 11.11.93 Cambridge Junction LSD 11.11.93 Cambridge Junction Camera That Could Lie 11.11.93 Cambridge Junction Assasins of Allah 11.11.93 Cambridge Junction -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Weird 101 - Sonic Assassins/ Dave Brock --------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Over the Top 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall Magnu 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall Angels of Life 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall Freefall 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall Death Trap 23.12.77 Barnstaple Queensway Hall -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Weird 102 - Hawkwind Live/ Hawklords --------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Quark,Strangeness&Charm 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival Masters of the Universe 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival Welcome to the Future 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival Spirit of the Age 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival Sonic Attack 22.06.77 Stonehenge Festival -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Weird 106 - Hawkwind 1970-73 --------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Born To Go 13.02.72 London Roundhouse Master of the Universe 13.02.72 London Roundhouse Jam 13.02.72 London Roundhouse Hurry on Sundown Text of Festival Came Home ??.??.70 Notting Hill We Do It Text of Festival Earth Calling BBC Transcription Disc -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Weird 108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 --------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Space is Deep Space Ritual Live and Let Live late.73 USA Etchanatae late.73 USA Dreaming Text of Festival Shouldn't Do That Text of Festival -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Independent Days ---------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Over the Top Weird 101 Who's Gonna Win... Weird 101 Angels Of Death Do Not Panic Watching The Grass... Do Not Panic Assault And Battery 03.12.85 London Hammersmith (Live Chronicles) Sleep Of 1000 Tears 03.12.85 London Hammersmith (Live Chronicles) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Chronicle Of The Black Sword -------------------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE [Dojo CD & Griffin CD] The War I Survived 22.04.88 London Hammersmith Voice Inside My Head 22.04.88 London Hammersmith [Flicknife CD] Assault & Battery Independent Days Sleep of 1000 Tears Independent Days -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Emergency Broadcast System Samples -------------------------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE The Camera That... The Business Trip Green Finned Demon The Business Trip Coded Languages Undisclosed Files Angels of Death Undisclosed Files Xenomorph Love in Space -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bristol Custom Bike Show (GWR) ------------------------ TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Master Of The Universe 20.06.86 Bristol Silver Machine 20.06.86 Bristol -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Ambient Anarchists ---------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Urban Guerilla Acid Daze Motorway City Undisclosed Files TV Suicide California Brainstorm Camera That Could Lie The Business Trip LSD The Business Trip Love in Space ??.??.96 VH-1 Show Green Finned Demon The Business Trip Space Is Their... Love in Space Hassan I Sabha Love in Space -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wir sind Kinder der Revolte Vol 1. ---------------------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Love in Space 21.07.96 Burg Herzberg Festival -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Acid Daze --------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE High Rise Weird 103 Spirit of the Age Live '79 Urban Guerilla same as Live '79 Masters of the Universe Late '80 World of Tiers Late '80 Who's Gonna Win the War Glastonbury '81 Ghost Dance late.82 ? ? Earth Calling BBC Transcription Disc Motorhead Independent Days Watchfield Festival Weird 103 Magnu Weird 101 Angels Of Death Weird 101 Hashcake '77 Weird 103 Quark,Strangeness&Charm Weird 102 Born To Go Greasy Truckers Party Space Is Deep Space Ritual You Shouldn't Do That Space Ritual Seeing It As... Space Ritual Hurry On Sundown Text of Festival Came Home Weird 106 We Do It Text of Festival Silver Machine late.81 ? ? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friends And Relations --------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE The Golden Void 23.12.77 Barnstaple (Sonic Assassins) Who's Gonna Win The War Weird 101 Robot Weird 103 Earth Calling BBC Transcription Disc We do It Text of Festival Spirit of the Age Weird 102 Psychedelia Lives Glastonbury 1981 Drug Cabinet Key Weird 105 Over the Top Sonic Assassins Psy Power Do Not Panic -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Early Years Live (EP 1991) -------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Silver Machine Acid Daze Spirit of the Age Live '79 Urban Guerilla Live '79 single b-side Born to Go Greasy Truckers -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1986 Hawkfan 12" ----------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Countdown BBC Transcription Disc Ejection 31.10.82 Bristol Colston Hall Ghost Dance 27.11.84 Sheffield University -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1997 Love in Space EP ---------------------- TRACK DATE TOWN, VENUE Lord of Light 19.10.1996 Bristol -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Jan 28 12:14:32 1999 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 18:14:32 +0100 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions Message-ID: Here are my impressions, well, with typical German thoroughness I tried to get some order into the track index: 1. BRAINSTORM/IN YOUR AREA 11:08 Full live version of Brainstorm + reggae part inbetween with additional rapping by Cpt. Rizz. Crum is a great synth player! 2. ALCHEMY 2:46 Another full live version. 3. LOVE IN SPACE/RAT RACE 5:50 A strangely cut live version of Love in space + middle part feat. Cpt. Rizz. The cut is just after 1 min when all of a sudden Cpt. Rizz begins to sing. 4. LOVE IN SPACE/AEROSPACEAGE INFERNO 5:32 Yes, the rest of Love in space- 25 seconds- and then into a full live version of AI. 5. FIRST LANDING ON MEDUSA 1:41 Actually this is The Awakening spoken and played by Dave, studio version. 6. I AM THE REPTOID 3:19 I think this is also live, the ending of Reptoid Vision, again with Cpt. Rizz rapping. 7. THE NAZCA 0:44 A Dave Brock studio track. 8. HIPPY 5:45 THE track on this album! Great vocals by Ron and excellent guitar by Jerry. This will be another classic HW song in the future. The intro of the song strangely reminds me of The Watcher. 9. PRAIRIE 2:39 This sounds nothing like HW at all, a nice instrumental with acoustic guitar and percussion. 10. YOUR FANTASY 5:04 The worst track on the album! I just hate techno rhythms. And I already hated this one on the ?97 tour. Notice: there are no real drums here! Also worst lyrics EVER. 11. LUXOTICA 3:09 A rather boring instrumental synth track. 12. DIANA PARK 4:21 Another instrumental, this time with some good guitar, but once again with computer beats. All in all not a bad album, at least it?s better than DH. I hope the live ?97 album is as excellent recorded as those on this CD! Andreas From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Jan 28 12:55:40 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:55:40 -0500 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions Message-ID: Andreas spake thusly... >8. HIPPY 5:45 > THE track on this album! Great vocals by Ron Yes, I agree absolutely. Someone here mentioned they thought Dave did a good Calvert impersonation on Medusa. On Hippy, I thought Ron did an excellent Brock impersonation. In fact, I was surprised that it was Tree singing on that one...I had to look at the liner notes twice to be sure. Granted, he uses some minor effects on the vocals, but I think's it apparent that he's more capable than he's been given credit for. >9. PRAIRIE 2:39 > This sounds nothing like HW at all, a nice instrumental with acoustic > guitar and percussion. I like this one quite a lot...a bit simple, but this 8 1/2 minutes of the album are a glimpse of what *can* be 21st century Hawkwind. They just gotta build that 'bridge.' (Where's that confounded bridge?) Keith H. (FAA) ObCD: Agitation Free - At the cliffs of river Rhine From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu Jan 28 14:50:16 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 19:50:16 -0000 Subject: HW: In Your Area Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: John Majka To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 28 January 1999 01:19 Subject: Re: HW: In Your Area To claim Distant Horizons was a >half-finished demo sounds to me like rationalizing to explain its dearth of >material. Of course I'd rather have at least a so-so album rather than no >album at all, but still.... >John Majka I was never 'claiming' that DH was a half-finished demo or to trying to rationalise anything. But it is a fact that that it was not the final mix that got released. If you don't like the material as presented then I doubt that the finished version would sound much better. This does, however, explain the lacklustre sound of a few of the tracks, the indexing errors at the end and the poor presentation. From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Thu Jan 28 15:43:21 1999 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 15:43:21 -0500 Subject: BOC: Danny and HF Message-ID: >I know they were playing SYIB, HM and PUD before Danny ever stepped on stage. Also Still Burnin' and CGLOD >I'm sure he could belt out a few numbers like Hot Rails to Hell Agreed, but don't hold your breath on that tune since Joe Bouchard wrote it. Sure, BOC still does some songs that were at least co-written by the Bouchards, but that one is a Joe-only compilation, and one that Joe sung. The band hasn't done it (as far as I know) since Joe left in '86. I would also be suspicious of Buck and Eric of giving up any of the lead vocal tasks. Certainly lead vocals was always Eric's main function (which is why his role in the band seemed so reduced in late '96 and '97 -- when he couldn't sing as much. Hey, I admit that Eric can play guitar and keys as well, but he is and will always be considered BOC's lead vocalist first, and an instrumentalist second). And, I think Buck has gotten quite comfortable handling a larger load of lead vocals. I don't know that Danny is necessarily ever going to get a shot at lead vocals -- unless maybe he writes a killer song for the next BOC album that he sings and then can convince the band to let him sing it live as well. John From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Thu Jan 28 17:48:37 1999 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 16:48:37 -0600 Subject: BOC: Me and My Big Mouth! Message-ID: "" wrote: > > In a message dated 1/28/99 4:07:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, > nick at THECAMPUS.COM writes: > > << Does anybody know if he actually HAS anything to contribute? Does he > write? Is he doing so? Maybe the reason he doesn't have any songs on > HF is because he didn't write any. I don't know this...just a > possibility. > Nick, > > Danny most definitely writes. In Clarksville, Danny was talking about writing > for his other band, Pyramid, with George Cintron. With Danny being able to > play keys, sax, lead AND bass, I think Danny has many talents that aren't > immediately seen in the BOC format. And an added bonus is how happy go lucky > he is . > > chuck Pyramid? I didn't know Danny was in another band, how does he find the time. Any info on Pyramid would be great Chuck :-). Laj. From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Jan 29 02:46:57 1999 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 07:46:57 +0000 Subject: OFF: Webcast Message-ID: The following sounded interesting. Anyone have any info? Z "On Saturday February 13 at 9:00 pm PST, Here Are The Facts You Requested will begin broadasting live in streaming audio and video an evening of kaleidophonic music and psychedelic visuals from Cafe Babylon in San Jose, CA (http://www.cafebabylon.com). An accompanying chat space, moderated and instigated by EL DIABLO de KUNG FU GRIP, will address audience questions and concerns as they happen. Here Are The Facts You Requested was formed in Baltimore in 1991 and relocated to San Francisco in 1994, finding a home and an eager fan base for their beautiful, confusing music in the Burning Man arts community (http://www.burningman.com). Comprised of sounds generated by cello, turntables, drums, guitar and guitar synth, the music of Here Are The Facts You Requested is wildly ecclectic and largely improvised. Their composed songs often appear as islands of clarity amid sparkling exploratory jams." Zeitgeist e-zine PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM Fri Jan 29 05:05:41 1999 From: mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM (Matthew Braun) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 04:05:41 CST Subject: BOC: Me and My Big Mouth! In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 29 Jan 1999 05:00:44 CST." <199901291000.FAA26985@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: John A Swartz writes: >Agreed, and from what I hear, Danny does write songs. However, my >perception is that he didn't write material for Heaven Forbid for the >simple reason that most, if not all the material for Heaven Forbid was >written by the time Danny joined the band in '95. Remember, BOC was >trying to get an album deal since around '92 or so, and many songs on >HF have been played live since at least '94. '91, actually... m@ From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Fri Jan 29 00:32:20 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 05:32:20 +0000 Subject: BOC: Me and My Big Mouth! Message-ID: > Danny most definitely writes. In Clarksville, Danny was talking about writing > for his other band, Pyramid, with George Cintron. With Danny being able to > play keys, sax, lead AND bass, I think Danny has many talents that aren't > immediately seen in the BOC format. And an added bonus is how happy go lucky > he is . Well, I don't know what kind of band Pyramid is, or if their stuff fits in with a fan's perception of what BOC ought to be...but personally, the best thing about BOC right now is that the road ahead is kind of open. On HF, they dabbled with some stuff they've really never tried before, and if there's more life in this band, I wouldn't mind seeing more of that...even though this IS the band that warned us of those "experiments that failed too many times" and "transformations that were too hard to find." -- Nick From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jan 29 06:17:27 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:17:27 +0000 Subject: OFF: Nati In-Reply-To: <199901291000.FAA26991@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >Dave writes: > >> The HAWK LOGS Master Series Vol. 1 "I Do Like to be beside the seaside" >> CD came today. >> >> Nati is a new song for me sounds like Tim Blake singing. Any one have >> any other info on this track. > >Yes, it's a Tim Blake track. It's on Mjick I think. > >Waiting for Nati >================ > Absolutely correct, written by Tim, and according to the sleeve notes (from memory), recorded direct to disc in one take on a dark night in a windmill in France. The album is Magick, some like it some don't, I find the track without lyrics to be more my cup of tea. Other albums available are Jerusalem and Crystal **** (doh !) I've only heard Magick but would like to try the others, they were discussed on the list about two months ago as I recall. Cheers, Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.demon.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Jan 29 09:07:46 1999 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:07:46 +0000 Subject: BOC: FOUO Message-ID: This months Record Collector magazine has a feature on AOR. In their Top 10 AOR albums, BOC and FoUO, controversially, pops in at number 5. For those who care that full list is; 1] BOSTON - Walk On 2] ASIA - Asia 3] JOURNEY - Escape 4] STYX - Paradise Theater 5] BOC - FoUO 6] FOREIGNER - 4 7] REO SPEEDWAGON - Hi-Infidelity 8] TOTO - IV 9] SURVIVOR - Caught In The Game 10]KANSAS - Drastic Measures Z NP Frank Zappa - Cheap Thrills Zeitgeist e-zine PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Fri Jan 29 09:23:53 1999 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:23:53 +0000 Subject: HW in science shock Message-ID: I am currently trying to put together a collaboration with some people from the University of Derby, who have a device for following where someone is looking. Imagine my joy and surprise on glancing at page http://www-hcs.derby.ac.uk/avru/eyemovanalysis.htm where they use the HotMG cover as an example of something visually interesting. On analysis it appears that it is mainly the age group 50-59 that are interested in it. Mike w From abrevard at SHL.COM Fri Jan 29 10:58:58 1999 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 07:58:58 -0800 Subject: BOC: More Danny... Message-ID: >I'm sure he could belt out a few numbers like Hot Rails to Hell JS>Agreed, but don't hold your breath on that tune since Joe Bouchard wrote it. Sure, BOC still does some songs that were at least co-written by the Bouchards, but that one is a Joe-only compilation, and one that Joe sung. The band hasn't done it (as far as I know) since Joe left in '86. OK, but wouldn't this one sound nice in the classic BOC portion of the setlist? JS>I would also be suspicious of Buck and Eric of giving up any of the lead vocal tasks. Certainly lead vocals was always Eric's main function (which is why his role in the band seemed so reduced in late '96 and '97 -- when he couldn't sing as much. Hey, I admit that Eric can play guitar and keys as well, but he is and will always be considered BOC's lead vocalist first, and an instrumentalist second). And, I think Buck has gotten quite comfortable handling a larger load of lead vocals. I don't know that Danny is necessarily ever going to get a shot at lead vocals -- unless maybe he writes a killer song for the next BOC album that he sings and then can convince the band to let him sing it live as well. More truth. I'm amazed as to how relaxed Buck appears on stage these days. Gosh when I first saw them back in '75 he looked very uncormfotable, would barely glance at the audience even when singing. Eric, I'm very happy seeing him sing again. Its weird but Al was always my fave BOC vocalist yet Eric was always lead vox on my fave songs. I can't figure this out. JS>PS: BTW, the reason I believe Bolle referred to the current lineup as "Two Oyster Cult", even though Danny's an established member is because the "2" refers to ORIGINAL members. I don't believe Danny (or Bobby for that matter) is treated as a "hired hand" - although Buck and Eric seem to have been in charge for the last 10 years. But, I don't interpret the "Two Oyster Cult" comment as a knock against Danny or Bobby -- besides, the band will be the first one's to say that Danny and Bobby are full-fledged bandmembers. "3OC" and "2 Oyster Cult" are names given to them by us fans, not the band. Point taken but its "us fans" who need to stop this practice. George, Paul and Ringo on stage again would not be referred to as "the Bugs" Dalton, Enwhistle and Townsend would not be "the What" Van Zant died in a plane crash and there are other new members sprinkled throughout but they are still Lynard Skynard Has anybody changed personnel more than Hawkwind? Nobody here refers to them as "Breaking Wind" The Brain Surgeons are not BOC, jr. they are simply the Brain Surgeons. My point being while we may joke about 2OC and 3OC it really isn't very flattering to the current lineup when we do this. I'm not ragging anybody and I have been guilty of using these terms myself. From henceforth however I will not do this anymore. Instead I may refer to Buck, Eric and Alan as "members of the original lineup" and Danny and Bobby as "memebers of the current lineup". As for 2OC and 3OC the late Robin Harris would say "Gotta go, gotta go". Soapbox returns to its place under the podium... L8er Ghost in the Ruins OBCD - Triumph In Concert [KBFH release] From ted at ALGER.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jan 29 11:06:55 1999 From: ted at ALGER.DEMON.CO.UK (Ted) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:06:55 +0000 Subject: BOC: Danny and Pyramid In-Reply-To: <199901291135.GAA01070@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: Pyramid does mostly covers IIRC..... the tape I have from a gig last year has covers ranging from Zeppelin (Kashmir), Sabbath (Heaven & Hell), Van Halen (Right Now) to Sly Stone (I Wanna Take You Higher)! I think there's an original song on there and I seem to remember thinking it was pretty good... dunno who wrote it though. I think George handles all the lead vocals. They're a 3-piece band with (I think) taped or sequenced keyboards. I know Jon Micelli used to be in the band, and I think Bobby replaced him when Jon left to tour with Meatloaf. I think Pyramid is more or less George & Danny's thing to let off some steam when they're home from touring with BOC and the young Mr. Iglesias.... > >Well, I don't know what kind of band Pyramid is, or if their stuff >fits in with a fan's perception of what BOC ought to be...but >personally, the best thing about BOC right now is that the road ahead >is kind of open. On HF, they dabbled with some stuff they've really >never tried before, and if there's more life in this band, I wouldn't >mind seeing more of that...even though this IS the band that warned >us of those "experiments that failed too many times" and >"transformations that were too hard to find." > >-- Nick Ted From ted at ALGER.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jan 29 11:07:09 1999 From: ted at ALGER.DEMON.CO.UK (Ted) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:07:09 +0000 Subject: BOC: Dennis Miller In-Reply-To: <199901291135.GAA01070@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: anyone else read Dennis Miler's book "Ranting Again" (or see his show) and see this quote? "...These days, by the time a story is actually made into a movie, it has been passed around like a goatskin flask at a Blue Oyster Cult concert. The script has been exposed to more secondhand guessing than schizophrenics week on Jeopardy!" Ted From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Jan 29 11:33:55 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:33:55 GMT Subject: 80 minute CD blanks Message-ID: Now that I've got the replacement for my broken Weird 104, I'm considering backing up the Weird tapes to CD. I was wondering about using 80 minute blanks. Are there any cons to doing this? Are they less likely to play on CD players? What I'm considering is putting together the shows that are disperesed about the Weird tapes and putting together similar tracks, like all the Hawklords stuff, all the early stuff, and all the Brock studio demos. What I'll need to do first is to time all the tracks and work out what fits where. It'd be sensible to ask if anyone has actually done this already? FoFP From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jan 29 11:46:25 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:46:25 +0000 Subject: HW: In Your Area In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Jonathan Jarrett writes > If this is as lack-lustre an effort as people seem to be >saying, then I think we might well have been happier with that 'Live '76' It's not Space Ritual, but it's really not. at. all. bad, by any means. There's plenty to enjoy, It's just got a (or "the") dodgy reggae bit in the middle of Brainstorm, that's all. It's no worse than Harvey Bainbridge saying "If you want to get out of it, you've to get into it." over and over and over again! Probably too contemporary or something :)) Gor-blimey, it's only 7 1/2 nicker. I'll have the next one now please! -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jan 29 11:46:06 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:46:06 +0000 Subject: HW: Strange Nik-post from NG In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990127112655.00855d30@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: In message <3.0.5.32.19990127112655.00855d30 at pop.sirius.com>, Doug Pearson writes >Apparently he was under the belief that one mr. >(apparently soon-to-be ms.) Genesis P-Orridge What fresh lunacy is this? GPO having his "little fireman" removed? -- Jon From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Fri Jan 29 14:01:23 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:01:23 -0000 Subject: HW: In Your Area Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Jon Browne To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 29 January 1999 16:59 Subject: Re: HW: In Your Area >It's not Space Ritual, but it's really not. at. all. bad, by any means. >There's plenty to enjoy, It's just got a (or "the") dodgy reggae bit in >the middle of Brainstorm, that's all. > I like the dodgy reggae!! Nick From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Jan 29 14:46:37 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:46:37 -0500 Subject: 80 minute CD blanks In-Reply-To: <199901291633.QAA28222@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, M Holmes wrote: => Now that I've got the replacement for my broken Weird 104, I'm => considering backing up the Weird tapes to CD. I was wondering about => using 80 minute blanks. Are there any cons to doing this? Are they less => likely to play on CD players? I have heard that 80-minute blank CD-Rs are almost apocryphal, in that they are really hard to get ahold of and, when you do, they are *MUCH* more expensive than the regular 74-minute blanks that everyone uses. There's an entry in the CD-R FAQ on 80-minute blanks, if I recall correctly. I think I can summarise that entry with "they're not worth it." Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Jan 29 14:43:41 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 11:43:41 -0800 Subject: OFF: Webcast Message-ID: On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 07:46:57 +0000, Stuart A Hamilton wrote: >The following sounded interesting. Anyone have any info? >Z > >"On Saturday February 13 at 9:00 pm PST, Here Are The Facts You Requested >will begin broadasting live in streaming audio and video an evening of >kaleidophonic music and psychedelic visuals from Cafe Babylon in San Jose, >CA (http://www.cafebabylon.com). No shit!?! For a short while, I was in a band ("Stereolab-influenced", so I played synth & organ) with the drummer from Here Are The Facts You Requested (and it also turned out that his girlfriend went to the same college as me, and her senior friends when she was a freshman were freshman friends of mine when I was a senior!). Here Are The Facts You Requested are an interesting an unique band ... the closest comparison I can think of is experimental pop bands from NYC like Tono-Bungay or Fly Ashtray (and yes, their drummer's really good). I would advise checking this out; I might even head down to San Jose for the show. Cafe Babylon is a cool venue, too (tip to any South Bay residents - hi Chris!). I played there (guesting on synth) with Liquorball a couple months ago when they opened for High Rise (a severely Blanga-to-the-max band!) there. Very spacious, lots of funky art around, and an ideal room for projections and psychedelic visual effects. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From flossbac at NLCI.COM Fri Jan 29 14:48:39 1999 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (John Majka) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:48:39 -0500 Subject: HW: In Your Area In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well I actually like Harvey saying that over and over again! One of my favorite Hawkwind moments, definitely! At 04:46 PM 1/29/99 +0000, you wrote: > >It's no worse than Harvey Bainbridge saying "If you want to get out of >it, you've to get into it." over and over and over again! John Majka flossbac at nlci.com http://nlci.com/users/flossbac/hawkwind.html From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Fri Jan 29 15:34:03 1999 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 13:34:03 -0700 Subject: 80 minute CD blanks In-Reply-To: <199901291633.QAA28222@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: I don't know anything about 80 minute blanks, but I have been able to get a record time of up to 76:30 from 74 minute blanks. Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of M Holmes > Sent: Friday, January 29, 1999 9:34 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: 80 minute CD blanks > > > Now that I've got the replacement for my broken Weird 104, I'm > considering backing up the Weird tapes to CD. I was wondering about > using 80 minute blanks. Are there any cons to doing this? Are they less > likely to play on CD players? From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Jan 29 15:40:00 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:40:00 +0000 Subject: HW: In Your Area Message-ID: On fre 29 jan 1999 16.46 +0000 "Jon Browne" wrote: > It's no worse than Harvey Bainbridge saying "If you want to get out of > it, you've to get into it." over and over and over again! But that was terrible! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jan 29 15:41:37 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:41:37 +0000 Subject: HW: The 3 r's: repetition repetition repetition In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >There's plenty to enjoy, It's just got a (or "the") dodgy reggae bit in >the middle of Brainstorm, that's all. > >It's no worse than Harvey Bainbridge saying "If you want to get out of >it, you've to get into it." over and over and over again! But but but but that's the best bit of 'choose...' imo. and i always thought it was "if you want to get it into it you've got to get out of it" "if you want to get it into it you've got to get out of it" there, it sounds even better now ive repeated it my problem with the dodgy reggae bit is that i'm sitting comfortably listening to the hawks thinking "yup, the gods of space rock" and there there's that; my reaction is probably the same as it would be if i was listening to, say, lee perry thinking "indeed there are few superior purveyors of the dub" and then all of a sudden he decided to 'have a go at' space rock. it just don't cut it to my ears. i must away, intoxification calls to me... andrew andrew andrew at deluminate.freeserve.co.uk From brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jan 29 15:55:11 1999 From: brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:55:11 -0000 Subject: HW: Crystal Palace Vera Lynn In-Reply-To: <199901291000.FAA26991@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hello All I Remember the Crystal Palace Bash particularly for the encore of Hawkwind, Dr and the Medics, and loads of others featuring Vera Lynn singing "We'll meet again" and "white Cliffs of Dover". Now that would make for and interesting CD. Also in front of the stage there was a large pool of green foul smelling water if anyone fell in I doubt they would have come out again it was a very effective deterrent against stage invaders. Brian From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jan 29 16:13:02 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:13:02 +0000 Subject: OFF: Delerium list In-Reply-To: <199901271812.SAA24192@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Dear Jill, get the On Trial CD before the last ones sell out! This is possibly the best album I bought all of last year. Can't plug it enough! Yours, Jon -- /_______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 338100) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "`It's a Venusian space bassist,' said Turner the bird being." | | (Hawkwind, sleeve notes to 'Doremi Fasol Latido') | \_______________________________________________________________________/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jan 29 16:20:18 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:20:18 +0000 Subject: HW: in your area In-Reply-To: <003301be4a43$ccfc3ea0$2a05883e@default> Message-ID: On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Brian Coulthard wrote: > At the same time I recieved IYA I also got Hawklords Live which is Calvert > on top form the version of Over the top seems to be the Same one as on the > Sonic Assasins EP could anyone confirm. I believe the versions are identical, it being flung on the 'Hawklords' CD to pad out an otherwise EP-length CD. > One thought a collected Sonic Assasins CD might be an idea for a future > Hawkwind Passport release. I didn't realise there was much more - the F&R 'Golden Void', es, but what else? Definitely worth putting tofether if thre is more than that. Yours, Jon -- /_______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 338100) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "`It's a Venusian space bassist,' said Turner the bird being." | | (Hawkwind, sleeve notes to 'Doremi Fasol Latido') | \_______________________________________________________________________/ From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jan 29 16:30:24 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:30:24 +0000 Subject: HW: In Your Area In-Reply-To: <001201be4bb9$c618ce60$a946a8c2@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: In message <001201be4bb9$c618ce60$a946a8c2 at xpnwjjkf>, Nick Lee writes >>There's plenty to enjoy, It's just got a (or "the") dodgy reggae bit in >>the middle of Brainstorm, that's all. >> >I like the dodgy reggae!! > >Nick Gor-blimey! -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jan 29 16:33:32 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:33:32 +0000 Subject: HW: The 3 r's: repetition repetition repetition In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990129204137.007c14a0@pop.freeserve.net> Message-ID: In message <3.0.6.32.19990129204137.007c14a0 at pop.freeserve.net>, andrew writes >But but but but that's the best bit of 'choose...' imo. > >and i always thought it was "if you want to get it into it you've got to >get out of it" > Yes, yes, of course. >"if you want to get it into it you've got to get out of it" there, it >sounds even better now ive repeated it > >my problem with the dodgy reggae bit is that i'm sitting comfortably >listening to the hawks thinking "yup, the gods of space rock" and there >there's that; my reaction is probably the same as it would be if i was >listening to, say, lee perry thinking "indeed there are few superior >purveyors of the dub" and then all of a sudden he decided to 'have a go at' >space rock. it just don't cut it to my ears. but he does! Frequently! "I am an alien from outer space, I am an elephant from out of space" > >i must away, intoxification calls to me... Yeah, well, get those lyrics right when you post pist. -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jan 29 16:36:07 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:36:07 +0000 Subject: HW: Crystal Palace Vera Lynn In-Reply-To: <000f01be4bc9$a9830bc0$7c37883e@default> Message-ID: In message <000f01be4bc9$a9830bc0$7c37883e at default>, Brian Coulthard writes >Hello All > I Remember the Crystal Palace Bash particularly for the encore of Hawkwind, >Dr and the Medics, and loads of others featuring Vera Lynn singing "We'll >meet again" and "white Cliffs of Dover". Now that would make for and >interesting CD. Also in front of the stage there was a large pool of green >foul smelling water if anyone fell in I doubt they would have come out again >it was a very effective deterrent against stage invaders. > >Brian Do you remember how quickly the arena emptied when she started singing? -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Jan 29 16:40:37 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:40:37 +0000 Subject: HW: In Your Area In-Reply-To: <1703752.3126631200@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: In message <1703752.3126631200 at cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk>, Carl Edlund Anderson writes >On fre 29 jan 1999 16.46 +0000 "Jon Browne" wrote: >> It's no worse than Harvey Bainbridge saying "If you want to get out of >> it, you've to get into it." over and over and over again! > > But that was terrible! :) I'm glad you agree! I thought I was on my own there for a moment. otherwise it's a great album, yeah? In Your Area has as many really good moments as any of the RCA albums. *plus* I now think Ron's a fucking excellent Hawk, and that took me three albums to decide. Hawkwind Forever. -- Jon From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Fri Jan 29 17:03:25 1999 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 17:03:25 EST Subject: HW: in your area Message-ID: Ok ,I've not got round to getting IYA yet,but I did enjoy the gigs for the 97 tour. IMO youre all forgetting something ie; Hawkwind havw always been about breaking moulds and changing the formula when youn least expect it.Rizz worked for that tour ,for me anyway. His input was totally unexpected to most people when they saw their first gig of that tour.I Remember most people at guildford saying "Who the Fuck is that???"When he came on.(He looked different last time most of us saw him). Once you got used to it ,it worked.Ok jerry isnt Huw,but HW are no longer the kind of band Huws style fits into . ( I'm a great Huw fan..Hes always been one of my favourite guitarists and i actually like his solo stuff a lot,but when hes in HW he does give them that METAL edge,and in my opinion that was then for the band and this is now.All things change (HW more than most!!!!) ) HW with Rizz to me sum up the "Free festival " HW that I miss so much.HW with the brakes off,with the "lets see where we go with this then" hats on.Dont get me wrong,I wouldnt want to see Rizz everytime i go to see Hawkwind,and yes DH is a weak album.I was looking forward to it after the gigs but was overall quite disappointed when I heard it first. I think all talk of HW disintegrating before our very eyes as one contributor wrote is a bit of an exageration.Just look at some of the old albums in your collection.I have heard some live tapes which had me wondering how they ever bounced back , but they did ,usually in a very unexpected way. All the best Keep the faith Al From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Jan 29 17:17:12 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 14:17:12 -0800 Subject: OFF: GPO's "little fireman" (was: HW: Strange Nik-post from NG) Message-ID: On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:46:06 +0000, Jon Browne wrote: >In message <3.0.5.32.19990127112655.00855d30 at pop.sirius.com>, Doug >Pearson writes >>Apparently he was under the belief that one mr. >>(apparently soon-to-be ms.) Genesis P-Orridge > >What fresh lunacy is this? GPO having his "little fireman" removed? That's the word on the street ... apparently his upcoming tour is intended to finance the operation. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Jan 29 17:29:12 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 22:29:12 +0000 Subject: HW: In Your Area In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 29 Jan 1999, Jon Browne wrote: > It's no worse than Harvey Bainbridge saying "If you want to get out of > it, you've to get into it." over and over and over again! But that bit's cool! Yours, Jon -- /_______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 338100) jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk | | ======================================================================| | "`It's a Venusian space bassist,' said Turner the bird being." | | (Hawkwind, sleeve notes to 'Doremi Fasol Latido') | \_______________________________________________________________________/ From clemens at TRAIL.COM Fri Jan 29 18:35:59 1999 From: clemens at TRAIL.COM (Clemens) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:35:59 -0700 Subject: HW: In Your Area Message-ID: > It's no worse than Harvey Bainbridge saying "If you want to get out of > it, you've to get into it." over and over and over again! when you look back over your life it seems short. when you look back over your life it seems short. when you look back over your life it seems short. when you look back over your life it seems short. when you look back over your life it seems short. when you look back over your life it seems short. when you look back over your life it seems short. when you look back over your life it seems short. Mark L. clemens at trail.com From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Jan 29 18:50:25 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 23:50:25 +0000 Subject: HW: In Your Area Message-ID: On fre 29 jan 1999 21.40 +0000 "Jon Browne" wrote: > In Your Area has as many really good > moments as any of the RCA albums. Yeeeeessssss, welllllll .... -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jan 29 22:28:12 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 03:28:12 +0000 Subject: HW: The 3 r's: repetition repetition repetition In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 21:33 29/01/99 +0000, you wrote: >>listening to, say, lee perry thinking "indeed there are few superior >>purveyors of the dub" and then all of a sudden he decided to 'have a go at' >>space rock. it just don't cut it to my ears. > >but he does! Frequently! >"I am an alien from outer space, I am an elephant from out of space" >Yeah, well, get those lyrics right when you post pist. >Jon all i cn manage is :-)))))))) obSong - Mama-Oom-Mow-Mow - The Rivingtons (passing out fron typing the l;ast line so careullly ) ansfdrew "This song, Ping pong" - Thee Headcoats From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Jan 29 22:35:51 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 03:35:51 +0000 Subject: HW: Crystal Palace Vera Lynn In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Hawkwind, >>Dr and the Medics, and loads of others featuring Vera Lynn singing "We'll >>meet again" and "white Cliffs of Dover". Now that would make for and >Do you remember how quickly the arena emptied when she started singing? look. thingz ar a bit fuxzzuy roight now bvut let me get this strate, the hawks plus otherrs , and vera luynn on stage, jammuing????!!! ObhowtoeckleartherromwhenyouwanttosleepSong _ Anythimg by Andre Williams (thee mighttiest od thee bloos shouters) andrew "This song, Ping pong" - Thee Headcoats From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Fri Jan 29 23:07:32 1999 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:07:32 -0700 Subject: HW: The Pink Floyd Encyclopedia In-Reply-To: <199812151831.SAA06817@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Sorry for the size, but here it goes... First the front; Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of M Holmes > Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 1998 11:31 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: HW: The Pink Floyd Encyclopedia > > > Kevin Sommers writes: > > > For those who want to keep the CD separate from the book, in > it's own case, > > I've made a front and back cover, which can be seen at > > http://www.members.pangeatech.com/novadrive/PF.htm. Just save > it, print it, > > and insert it in your favorite jewel case. If anyone would like a larger > > file size version of this, e-mail me personally and let me know > how big of a > > file you'd like, and if you'd like JPEG or bitmap. > > I like it! Could I have it in the best res you've got please? > > Send it in uuencoded format if you can since my unix mail isn't mime > compliant. > > > Kevin Sommers > > Cheers > > FoFP > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: front.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 21283 bytes Desc: not available URL: From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Fri Jan 29 23:11:18 1999 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:11:18 -0700 Subject: HW: The Pink Floyd Encyclopedia Message-ID: My hugest apologies for the last posting with a file attachment, inadvertently, to the list; it was to go only to an individual, which I realized seconds after I sent it. Again, I'm very sorry. 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Z NP Suicide - Why Be Zeitgeist e-zine PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Jan 30 05:38:19 1999 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 10:38:19 +0000 Subject: HW: The Pink Floyd Encyclopedia In-Reply-To: <000401be4c06$96563760$8855dacf@primenet.com> Message-ID: That's OK. It makes rather nice wallpaper. Z NP Bedouin - Tres Hombres Live At 21:11 29/01/1999 -0700, you wrote: > My hugest apologies for the last posting with a file attachment, >inadvertently, to the list; it was to go only to an individual, which I >realized seconds after I sent it. Again, I'm very sorry. Kevin Sommers >primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu > Zeitgeist e-zine PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Jan 30 05:43:03 1999 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 10:43:03 +0000 Subject: BEDOUIN - Tres Hombres Live Message-ID: Well I've given this boot a few listens now, and it's all rather splendid. Always having managed to miss them live, it's nice to know they can cut it (not that I really doubted them). The guitars a bit too far up in the sound for my taste, making it a bit too rawk, but a minor quibble. For those who need to know the tracklisting is; The Call Queen Of The Night Vision Quest Ancient Light/Unknown Arioch Sputnik Stan Passion Is An Animal Sword Of The East Chasing The Dragon LSD Z Zeitgeist e-zine PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sat Jan 30 05:47:45 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 10:47:45 -0000 Subject: HW: in your area Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Al Ogilvy To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 29 January 1999 22:18 Subject: Re: HW: in your area >Ok ,I've not got round to getting IYA yet,but I did enjoy the gigs for the 97 >tour. IMO youre all forgetting something ie; Hawkwind havw always been about >breaking moulds and changing the formula when youn least expect it.Rizz worked >for that tour ,for me anyway. His input was totally unexpected to most people >when they saw their first gig of that tour.I Remember most people at guildford >saying "Who the Fuck is that???"When he came on.(He looked different last time >most of us saw him). > Once you got used to it ,it worked.Ok jerry isnt Huw,but HW are no longer the >kind of band Huws style fits into . ( I'm a great Huw fan..Hes always been one >of my favourite guitarists and i actually like his solo stuff a lot,but when >hes in HW he does give them that METAL edge,and in my opinion that was then >for the band and this is now.All things change (HW more than most!!!!) ) HW >with Rizz to me sum up the "Free festival " HW that I miss so much.HW with the >brakes off,with the "lets see where we go with this then" hats on.Dont get me >wrong,I wouldnt want to see Rizz everytime i go to see Hawkwind,and yes DH is >a weak album.I was looking forward to it after the gigs but was overall quite >disappointed when I heard it first. > I think all talk of HW disintegrating before our very eyes as one contributor >wrote is a bit of an exageration.Just look at some of the old albums in your >collection.I have heard some live tapes which had me wondering how they ever >bounced back , but they did ,usually in a very unexpected way. >All the best > Keep the faith >Al Amen to that. Having given IYA good few spins now, its really grown on me. I still feel cheated every time I listen to "I Am the Reptoid" though. Just when you think its building up to the last part of "Reptoid Vision" it cuts out. Its kind of like Hawkus Interruptus. Nick From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sat Jan 30 06:24:46 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 11:24:46 -0000 Subject: BEDOUIN - Tres Hombres Live Message-ID: Where can I get this? From Alan? Nick -----Original Message----- From: Stuart A Hamilton To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 30 January 1999 11:01 Subject: BEDOUIN - Tres Hombres Live >Well I've given this boot a few listens now, and it's all rather splendid. >Always having managed to miss them live, it's nice to know they can cut it >(not that I really doubted them). The guitars a bit too far up in the >sound for my taste, making it a bit too rawk, but a minor quibble. For >those who need to know the tracklisting is; > >The Call >Queen Of The Night >Vision Quest >Ancient Light/Unknown >Arioch >Sputnik Stan >Passion Is An Animal >Sword Of The East >Chasing The Dragon >LSD > >Z >Zeitgeist e-zine >PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK >http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Jan 30 06:51:12 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 11:51:12 +0000 Subject: HW: Crystal Palace Vera Lynn In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990130033551.007a82b0@pop.freeserve.net> Message-ID: In article <3.0.6.32.19990130033551.007a82b0 at pop.freeserve.net>, andrew writes >look. thingz ar a bit fuxzzuy roight now bvut let me get this strate, the >hawks plus otherrs , and vera luynn on stage, jammuing????!!! Yup. Lemmy too. If I remember correctly. -- Jon From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Jan 30 08:17:29 1999 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 13:17:29 +0000 Subject: BEDOUIN - Tres Hombres Live In-Reply-To: <005501be4c43$259b3100$573da8c2@xpnwjjkf> Message-ID: Sshh. It's a bootleg. Alan might not like it! Z At 11:24 30/01/1999 -0000, you wrote: >Where can I get this? From Alan? > >Nick >-----Original Message----- >From: Stuart A Hamilton >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Date: 30 January 1999 11:01 >Subject: BEDOUIN - Tres Hombres Live > > >>Well I've given this boot a few listens now, and it's all rather splendid. >>Always having managed to miss them live, it's nice to know they can cut it >>(not that I really doubted them). The guitars a bit too far up in the >>sound for my taste, making it a bit too rawk, but a minor quibble. For >>those who need to know the tracklisting is; >> >>The Call >>Queen Of The Night >>Vision Quest >>Ancient Light/Unknown >>Arioch >>Sputnik Stan >>Passion Is An Animal >>Sword Of The East >>Chasing The Dragon >>LSD >> >>Z >>Zeitgeist e-zine >>PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK >>http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com > Zeitgeist e-zine PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From harpo87 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Jan 30 09:19:06 1999 From: harpo87 at HOTMAIL.COM (PER ANDERS JOHANSSON) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 06:19:06 PST Subject: Hawkwind video help Message-ID: HELLO I gonna buy some videos here in sweden,can anyone help me with information about this videos,are they something to have. CHAOS LOVE IN SPACE PROMO COLLECTION-DEMOS SOLSTICE IN STONEHENGE Please inform me who other official and unofficial videos who exist and if so if anybody can help me to find more. THANKS VERY MUTCH/PER-ANDERS,SWEDEN ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Jan 30 11:10:23 1999 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:10:23 +0000 Subject: OFF: Eggstraordinary: an epilogue Message-ID: Whilst maintaining my rep as the worlds worst record dealer at a fair yesterday, spending all my profits in an after hours orgy of record buying I couldn't resist buying an old 7" by The Fabulous Farquahr entitled "My Eggs Don't Taste the Same Without You". Z Zeitgeist e-zine PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Jan 30 11:12:52 1999 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 16:12:52 +0000 Subject: OFF: Did anyone ever see a film called "Light Of Day" Message-ID: Which starred Michael J Fox and Joan Jett. I was playing the soundtrack last night (which is actually OK, despite Mr Fox getting to sing one of his own songs), but I have never seen it. Complete arse? Oh, and I could claim a very tenous BOC link (B Halligan Jr wrote one of the songs), but I thought that was pushing it:-) Z Zeitgeist e-zine PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From mordru at FLITE.NET Sat Jan 30 12:21:44 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 12:21:44 -0500 Subject: OFF: Did anyone ever see a film called "Light Of Day" In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990130161252.007a8680@pop.dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: At 04:12 PM 1/30/99 +0000, you wrote: >Which starred Michael J Fox and Joan Jett. I was playing the soundtrack >last night (which is actually OK, despite Mr Fox getting to sing one of his >own songs), but I have never seen it. Complete arse? Oh, and I could >claim a very tenous BOC link (B Halligan Jr wrote one of the songs), but I >thought that was pushing it:-) Yeah, I saw it in 1987. Basically a blue-collar working class band movie, with Joan Jett getting into trouble (like stealing stuff) and Fox always bailing her out (like borrowing money to pay off the people who knew she stole the stuff)... formula picture, the band breaks up, but then at the last moment gets back together and plays a good show. ============================= "All praise, he's found the awful truth, Balthazar... He's found the saucer news!" - E.T.I. by Blue ?yster Cult -AAA From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Jan 30 13:20:45 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 13:20:45 EST Subject: Hawkwind Hawk-U.S. Time & Space Issue #7 availablity Message-ID: Hello hawkers, Issue #7 of Hawk-U.S./Time & Space Fanzine is now printed and ready to be sent out. As a special addition to Hawk-U.S./Time & Space #7, there will be a CD-R offered on a very limited basis. This CD includes one live track by all 13 bands that performed at "Strange Daze 98" (all tracks recorded at the event) in the order that they performed and comes in a jewel case with full color art. Those wanting details on ordering, the fanzine or the CD, please visit: http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkus7.html for full ordering info etc. see ya bob http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Jan 30 12:56:15 1999 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 17:56:15 +0000 Subject: OFF: Did anyone ever see a film called "Light Of Day" In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990130122144.008f5b10@flite.net> Message-ID: Thanks. I think I'll just wait till Blockbuster have one of their twoferone deals. Z NP Bill Nelson - Quit Dreaming And get On The Beam At 12:21 30/01/1999 -0500, you wrote: >At 04:12 PM 1/30/99 +0000, you wrote: >>Which starred Michael J Fox and Joan Jett. I was playing the soundtrack >>last night (which is actually OK, despite Mr Fox getting to sing one of his >>own songs), but I have never seen it. Complete arse? Oh, and I could >>claim a very tenous BOC link (B Halligan Jr wrote one of the songs), but I >>thought that was pushing it:-) > >Yeah, I saw it in 1987. > >Basically a blue-collar working class band movie, with Joan Jett >getting into trouble (like stealing stuff) and Fox always bailing >her out (like borrowing money to pay off the people who knew she >stole the stuff)... formula picture, the band breaks up, but >then at the last moment gets back together and plays a good >show. > >============================= >"All praise, he's found > the awful truth, Balthazar... > He's found the saucer news!" > > - E.T.I. by Blue ?yster Cult > >-AAA > Zeitgeist e-zine PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Sat Jan 30 14:22:10 1999 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 19:22:10 -0000 Subject: HW: The 3 r's: repetition repetition repetition Message-ID: For conspiracy theorists out there, it's repeated 23 times, which is 'the' number in all the Illuminati books... Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ -----Original Message----- From: Jon Browne To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Friday, January 29, 1999 9:53 PM Subject: Re: HW: The 3 r's: repetition repetition repetition >In message <3.0.6.32.19990129204137.007c14a0 at pop.freeserve.net>, andrew > writes >>But but but but that's the best bit of 'choose...' imo. >> >>and i always thought it was "if you want to get it into it you've got to >>get out of it" >> > >Yes, yes, of course. > >>"if you want to get it into it you've got to get out of it" there, it >>sounds even better now ive repeated it >> >>my problem with the dodgy reggae bit is that i'm sitting comfortably >>listening to the hawks thinking "yup, the gods of space rock" and there >>there's that; my reaction is probably the same as it would be if i was >>listening to, say, lee perry thinking "indeed there are few superior >>purveyors of the dub" and then all of a sudden he decided to 'have a go at' >>space rock. it just don't cut it to my ears. > >but he does! Frequently! >"I am an alien from outer space, I am an elephant from out of space" >> >>i must away, intoxification calls to me... > >Yeah, well, get those lyrics right when you post pist. > >-- >Jon > From tclark at PETRONET.NET Sat Jan 30 14:21:44 1999 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 13:21:44 -0600 Subject: OFF: Eggstraordinary: Message-ID: Oh..this egg thing can go on and on but, .............. Well there's egg and bacon; egg, sausage and bacon; egg and spam; bacon and spam; egg, bacon, sausage and spam; spam, bacon, sausage and spam; spam, egg, spam, spam, bacon and spam; spam, spam, spam, egg and spam; spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, baked beans, spam, spam, spam and spam; or lobster thermidor aux crevettes with a mornay sauce garnished with truffle pate', brandy and a fried egg on top of spam." "Monte Python's Flying Circus" From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Jan 31 06:00:29 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:00:29 -0000 Subject: OFF: Deniz Tek au Havre Message-ID: Me and Alun just got back from a totally excellent trip to Normandy to see the Deniz Tek Group! The nearest Deniz' European tour got to here was the little town of Notre Dame de Gravenchon, 25 km from Le Havre, so off we went, 4am start to catch the ferry from Portsmouth and all. Found the venue without difficulty, the Maison de Jeunesse et Culture (I'd been wodnering what MJC stood for). Basically a youth club. No advance tickets, just entry on the door, 30FF. Getting in to the show was going to be the cheapest part of the whole deal! Found a hotel, got a pizza, played some pinball, drank some beer. Anyway, first up was a local band called Holy Curse. Bloody excellent! They included a kickin' versiof Birdman's "Cryin' Sun", and their own material was good too. They've got a CD out, _Livin' with a Head_, so I've just ordered a copy from www.fnac.fr, obviously. We hung around while Deniz set up - they didn't seem to have any road crew, the man himself was busy with the gaffer tape (which immediately makes him seem more human!) It was a really friendly venue, about 150 people showed up, so it had a bit of a party atmosphere. Cool. Deniz took the stage accompanied by bass and drums. Bass was (99% certain) the player from _Equinox_, Todd Eagle, and the drummer was this new 18-year-old guy called Tommy something, who seems to be some sort of multi-instrumental prodigy. Looked a bit like Cobi Jones, the USA footballer who used to play for Coventry. But a better drummer than Cobi Jones is a striker! Inspirationally good gig. Deniz is a real perfectionist - he'd take a minute or two to retune between songs, and nobody minded! Great sound, real charisma. Great versions of the old stuff - "Hand of Law" was like to die for (ObBOC - lyric "and the light that never warms") - and the new stuff, some of which had seemed a bit baffling on disc, all fell into place when witnessed live. Set ended with a scorching version of "Outside" from the album of the same name. Encores: "Steel Beach", "Christmas Eve" from _Equinox_, with slide guitar!, and "New Race" (yeah hup!) with Eric from Holy Curse on vocals. Eric, obviously a huge fan, was clearly totally made up. As would I be in his shoes! So anyway we emerged and they'd set up a merchandising stand. There was supposed to be a limited-edition live CD on sale at the shows, but shock horror it wasn't there!!! So I asked the guy in my best French what had happened. By his stumbling pidgin reply I quickly deduced I was speaking to the only Aussie in the place, who turned out to be John Needham of Citadel Records who was mamaging the tour. And he recognised my name from some large mail orders. Which was cool. Turns out the CD wasn't ready in time and they're still in Oz. So I'll get a copy soon, John just has to fly back home and post one! We also got several free beers from the promoter - seems that after I'd phoned the venue to confirm the show was on a couple of days beforehand, they'd all been going "there's a couple of guys coming all the way from London" "get outta here" "mais si!"... And yes, finally we did get a chance to chat with the Man himself. OK, I was a bit the tonguetied fanboy, but he was such a nice guy! Everybody was, in fact. Spent the next day offsetting the cost of the trip against cheap wine and beer. A good time had by all. Seemed like a mad idea in advance, but I'd do it again in a flash. - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun Jan 31 06:18:51 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:18:51 +0000 Subject: BEDOUIN - Tres Hombres Live Message-ID: Eh? What kind of creature is this bootleg? First I've heard of it ... -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun Jan 31 06:34:54 1999 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 11:34:54 +0000 Subject: OFF: DownUnderRock and other gigs Message-ID: On s?n 31 jan 1999 11.00 +0000 "Andy Gilham" wrote: > Me and Alun just got back from a totally excellent trip to Normandy to see > the Deniz Tek Group! Speaking of rock from Well South. I note the Mutton Birds are touring in the UK. I'm probably going to catch their Cambridge gig on the 7th (after meeting up with Scott Heller in London). Cathedral/Orange Goblin are playing the Camden Underworld on the 6th and I've a conference to go in London on the 5th--so it looks like a pretty London-heavy and gig-tastic weekend coming up for me! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Jan 31 09:36:42 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 22:36:42 +0800 Subject: HW In Your Area: Impressions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Here are my impressions, well, with typical German thoroughness I > tried to get > some order into the track index: > > 1. BRAINSTORM/IN YOUR AREA 11:08 > Full live version of Brainstorm + reggae part inbetween with additional > rapping by Cpt. Rizz. Crum is a great synth player! > 2. ALCHEMY 2:46 > Another full live version. > 3. LOVE IN SPACE/RAT RACE 5:50 > A strangely cut live version of Love in space + middle part > feat. Cpt. Rizz. > The cut is just after 1 min when all of a sudden Cpt. Rizz > begins to sing. Thankfully, the Love In Space part is so short. This song for me was the lowpoint of HW. It's more suited to Celine Dion. > 6. I AM THE REPTOID 3:19 > I think this is also live, the ending of Reptoid Vision, again > with Cpt. Rizz > rapping. Sounds studio to me, and according to the track listing it sould be. Then again, the the album list 14 tracks, when really it's 12. > 9. PRAIRIE 2:39 > This sounds nothing like HW at all, a nice instrumental with > acoustic guitar > and percussion. This one doesn't have Dave on it, and is similar to instrumentals by Steve Howe, Steve Hackett, etc.. > 10. YOUR FANTASY 5:04 > The worst track on the album! I just hate techno rhythms. And > I already hated > this one on the ?97 tour. Notice: there are no real drums > here! Also worst > lyrics EVER. I wouldn't have called that techno rythms. It's the same rythmn from the track Into The Realms on Agents Of Chaos. > 11. LUXOTICA 3:09 > A rather boring instrumental synth track. It's actually backwards guitars. I like it. very Bill Nelson sounding. > All in all not a bad album, at least it?s better than DH. I hope > the live ?97 > album is as excellent recorded as those on this CD! I agree William From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Jan 31 09:47:09 1999 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 22:47:09 +0800 Subject: HW: in your area In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > One thought a collected Sonic Assasins CD might be an idea for a future > > Hawkwind Passport release. > > I didn't realise there was much more - the F&R 'Golden Void', es, > but what else? Definitely worth putting tofether if thre is more than > that. Yours, > There is also the tracks on Mighty Hawkwind Classics, There's Agents Of Death & Magnu on Acid Daze, and there's some other tracks that have yet to appear officially. William From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Sun Jan 31 23:41:36 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 04:41:36 +0000 Subject: BOC: Friday Rock Show Message-ID: > Well those insomniac enough to stay up for VH1s Friday Rock Show were > treated to a rare sighting of Messrs Bloom and Roeser, during a classic > "where are they now video" - Stars by Hear'n'Aid. An absolute peach. If memory serves, Eric actually got to sing his very own solo line in that, didn't he? -- Nick From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Fri Jan 1 23:37:26 1999 From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 23:37:26 -0500 Subject: Re the Poll Message-ID: Whoa, easy there, big guy. ;) -----Original Message----- From: Bill Stewart To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 9:46 PM Subject: Re: Re the Poll >In a message dated 11/30/99 9:13:23 PM EST, mhabiby1 at NYCAP.RR.COM writes: > ><< > So what do you all think about that? We are a bunch of old farts? Or are we > the most loyal fan base out there? :) >> > > >Or....we love the ACID;(...........and da porn.......and the........whatever > >Bill From sprawl at STARPOWER.NET Fri Jan 1 23:42:04 1999 From: sprawl at STARPOWER.NET (Sprawl) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 23:42:04 -0500 Subject: HW Poll Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: david hall To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 7:47 PM Subject: HW Poll >This poll raises some interesting questions: >1. how many are on the list? >2. Are those on the list representative of the active HW fanbase? Well, I bought my first computer for the sole purpose of getting on this list. >3. Geographic location? Reston VA, now. >4. Is the poll representative of those who would possibly turn out for a gig? (probably) One would think. It would take alot for me to miss a HW gig. Like... a gig at Nelson Ledges Quarry. Yep, that'd do it. >Dave rj