From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sun Aug 1 02:54:05 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Stuart Hamilton) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 07:54:05 +0100 Subject: OFF: TAPE SWAP 1999 Message-ID: Well they're starting to filter through. Just received Chris Warburtons tape and rather splendid it is too. The listings page has been updated and can be found at: http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot/boc99.htm SAH NP 13th Floor Elevators - All Time Highs -- Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "There's no walls in music. It's like water; there's currents." --Corey Harris From peter at FAIRFIELD.KAROO.CO.UK Sun Aug 1 03:11:22 1999 From: peter at FAIRFIELD.KAROO.CO.UK (Peter Greendale) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 08:11:22 +0100 Subject: BOC: Concert bills Message-ID: Many moons ago I used to have a poster advertising this BOC/Motorhead concert. The style of the lettering was that of the polished silver/metal/gothic favoured by both bands at the time. just maybe (?) there was "On Your Feet or On your Knees" on the top of the poster............ (my memory may be playing tricks here....) One other point of note was that the Kronos logo was printed incorrectly, it being inverted and therefore facing the wrong way. I did not actually go to this gig, but the poster implied that BOC were top billing, maybe with Motorhead as 'special guests'. (?) Also, only last year BOC were on the same bill as Motorhead AND Alice Cooper in Sweden, I know 'cos I was there.................. Peter Greendale UK DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > goldurn it!! > > 7/20/75 > hammersmith > > while the motohead biostuff i was sent does in fact refer to a number of very > early gigs w/BOC no mention of who was headliner 7/20/75 > > who has a hawkwind gig list ? adrian? bernhard? > i'll look for a hat to eat just in case > but we're talkin 7/20/75 > > "<>" From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Sun Aug 1 06:27:22 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 11:27:22 +0100 Subject: HW: Edinburgh gig? Message-ID: Today's edition of Scotland on Sunday mentions Hawkwind possibly playing with Ken Kesey and Spiritualised in Princes St. Gardens! Can this be true? Does anyone have any firm info? Is there anything we can do to help make this happen? Dave. From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Aug 1 06:44:09 1999 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 03:44:09 PDT Subject: OFF: dialect posts Message-ID: Mr Jarrett hinted: > Once again BOC-L synchronicity strikes... Yours, > Jon Ok, I've read it twice. Clearly I'm not getting it.....Where's the BOC-L tie-in??? Chris. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Sun Aug 1 13:46:59 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 12:46:59 -0500 Subject: OFF: dialect posts Message-ID: Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > After the recent furore, I just spotted this: > > > > Once again BOC-L synchronicity strikes... Yours, > Jon HAHAHA!!! Hooray for the Onion! Few things are better! From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Sun Aug 1 16:06:54 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 21:06:54 +0100 Subject: HW: Derby Rock & Blues Message-ID: Hi, just got back from the Derby Rock & Blues (via a night out in Manchester). After the longest wait between gigs (for me at least, since I've been seeing them) HW didn't disappoint. They opened with Aerospaceage Inferno, followed by Ron reading Wage War (I think, I haven't listed to Gagarin for quite some time), this led into Motorway City then (although not necessarily in this order) Assault & Battery/Golden Void, Assassins of Allah, Alchemy, a new piece, Master of the Universe (with a fantastic trance middle section), Utopia, Blue Skin, Brainstorm with Sonic Attack sandwiched in the middle, encoring Song of the Gremlin and Silver Machine - featuring Dumpy as guest. I think if the curfew hadn't struck we'd have got another song or two, as it was they played about 90 mins. The line-up was the basic four-piece, no Crum this time around. The stage was much smaller than last time around here, but the audience was, apparently, the biggest ever for a Friday night, can't think why... Once the sound had been sorted out, about a couple of songs in, they played an absolute blinder. Not quite a full light show this time, but pretty damn good, and some new dancers along side Kris who, during Utopia, were smoking 4' spliffs and snorting lines of 'coke' the width of the stage with massive straws! Master of the Universe was probably the highlight for me along with rousing version of Brainstorm (Sonic Attack didn't quite work to start with, but became increasingly menacing as it continued) and Silver Machine (not my favourite, but it always works well at events like this). Can't wait until the next one! Nick From tclark at PETRONET.NET Sun Aug 1 18:56:24 1999 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 17:56:24 -0500 Subject: OFF: dialect posts Message-ID: Wow.....again.... I sure did not intend for the previous discussion to continue futher in this fashion...now, it really is turning into something ugly....the Onion is quite funny, but the ebonics thing ought to be left alone and my posting taken as intended, and not any more than that. Sorry for bringing it up to begin with..... "Sen. Volstead" wrote: > Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > > > After the recent furore, I just spotted this: > > > > > > > > Once again BOC-L synchronicity strikes... Yours, > > Jon > > HAHAHA!!! Hooray for the Onion! Few things are better! From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Aug 1 08:29:57 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 1999 13:29:57 +0100 Subject: HW: Edinburgh gig? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990801112522.0093fe30@pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <4.1.19990801112522.0093fe30 at pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk>, Dave Berry writes >Today's edition of Scotland on Sunday mentions Hawkwind possibly playing >with Ken Kesey and Spiritualised in Princes St. Gardens! Can this be >true? It'll be tricky as Spiritualised are no more. Or more precisely Jason has sacked the rest of the band, and is not active at present. Bummer. -- Jon From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 2 07:36:37 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:36:37 EDT Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine In-Reply-To: <37A2DFB9.89365637@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: > From: Christopher Bruce > Definitely no place here for the racism of so-called Ebonics, we might as well > don white sheets and burn a cross... I agree w/ Larry. No fault of Tom's that > someone posted trash translators on the web, but he might have paused and > thought about it for a bit. Blacks denounce Ebonics as it is used in schools > (can you believe it?) to give them a sense of belonging to a distinct culture, > but its been twisted by racists so badly it belongs in the dustbin with the > Confederate flag (also no offence to Southerners implied) > > ChrisB > If there are any Afro-Americans on this list, I'd like to hear their opinions. What I don't need to read are those of a bunch of white people who, like me, are clueless about ebonics... theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 2 07:44:24 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:44:24 EDT Subject: [BOC-NewsWire] Got Cable? In-Reply-To: <37A2A89C.F085C19B@bocfanclub.com> Message-ID: Just got this today from the fan club: > From: melne > > Got Cable? > > The VH-1 show "Where Are They Now?" will feature BOC and several other bands > next Tuesday Aug. 3. > > ICE magazine reports that the new Sony/Legacy B?C compilation will be out > August 31. It's titled "Don't Fear The Reaper: The Best Of." > > ICE also reports that the King Biscuit B?C disc is due September 21. > > Added shows: > > Sept. 17, Allentown, PA > > Changed Show: > August 16: Was at Graham Central Station in Odessa Texas. Now is at Graham > Central Station in San Angelo, TX. > > # # # From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Mon Aug 2 08:46:58 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 12:46:58 +0000 Subject: Leslie West In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 13:59 29/07/99 +0100, you wrote: >> Were they billed as Mountain? What's the lineup? Any idea what the >> album title is? I've never seen Leslie live, damnit, but would love >> to. He was a huge [sic] influence on me when I was just learning the >> guitar... >> > >The new album's called _Man's World_, iirc. And wasn't it was Felix >Pappalardi (sp?) who's dead? - shot by his wife in a "domestic". (All too >easy to imagine: "Not bloody 'Nantucket Sleighride' again...!") Yes, shot, and she was one of the writers of "bloody 'Nantucket Sleighride'". In the sleeve notes to "Over The Top" LW (& CL as well I think) get very bitter & twisted about the way she treated Felix e.g. his apparently ludicrous dress-sense was all her fault. > >Again, iirc, they're now billed as "Leslie West's Mountain". And they were >supported by... by... help me out here, Chris! No wait, I got it - Del >Bromham's Stray! I think Del Bromham's Stray have supported them every time they've played in London recently - is DB the only original member left...as I recall they were quite good (if not very original) during the early '70s..."Saturday Morning Pictures" was about their best iirc. > >I have a mate who's a bit of a Mountain fan, which is a pain if you're on >the whisky at his place, and he puts _Twin Peaks_ or _Flowers of Evil_ on >the stereo. But he usually falls asleep straightaway. > Hmm, even as a Mountain fan I find Twin Peaks a bit much, and definitely not for late night whisky (or whiskey) drinking sessions. Cheers, ChrisW ObCD:King Crimson Live on Broadway (the latest Collectors Club release!!!!!!!!!) From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Mon Aug 2 10:13:39 1999 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas Stuewe) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 16:13:39 +0200 Subject: HW: Derby Rock & Blues Message-ID: Nick Lee schrieb: > Hi, > > just got back from the Derby Rock & Blues (via a night out in Manchester). > After the longest wait between gigs (for me at least, since I've been seeing > them) HW didn't disappoint. > They opened with Aerospaceage Inferno, followed by Ron reading Wage War (I > think, I haven't listed to Gagarin for quite some time), this led into > Motorway City then (although not necessarily in this order) Assault & > Battery/Golden Void, Assassins of Allah, Alchemy, a new piece, Master of the > Universe (with a fantastic trance middle section), Utopia, Blue Skin, > Brainstorm with Sonic Attack sandwiched in the middle, encoring Song of the > Gremlin and Silver Machine - featuring Dumpy as guest. I think if the curfew > hadn't struck we'd have got another song or two, as it was they played about > 90 mins. It was indeed Wage War, and Ron was reading it from a giant piece of paper. Actually it was too long to be exciting, and the synth noodling wasn?t that inventive. Motorway City was quite a surprise, with brilliant vocals by Dave and Jerry?s lead guitar sounded great. Assault and battery/The golden void was next. When it was over I thought a new song began, but it was in fact some 3 min extended Golden Void fade-out (at least Dave said after that it was Golden Void). Next was Alchemy, always nice to hear. The new song was sung by Ron and it?s obviously a Ron Tree song, rather slow one, one which grows with every listen, and great guitar work by Dave and Jerry. The highlight for me was Arrival in Utopia, best version I?ve ever heard! Master of the universe was about 10 min long with some real spacey middle part, a bit similar to I am the reptoid. Assassins of Allah was played as usual with Space is their. same goes with Blue skin. But Brainstorm was performed without that reggae piece inbetween which really was a delight. Instead we heard Sonic Attack which was musically quite different. After 80 min Hawkwind came back for an 8 min encore of The Gremlin and Silver machine. One of the better versions to my tastes, feat. 3 guitars. All in all another great performance by Hawkwind. Though I missed Hippy in the set, as they have done it at their soundcheck. But I believe they had to do some of their classics and a more heavy set since this was a biker festival. Andreas (a mad German who travelled 1200 miles by car to see a 90 min HW set) From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Mon Aug 2 10:19:05 1999 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (Thomas Guy) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:19:05 +0100 Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine Message-ID: Theo writes: >If there are any Afro-Americans on this list, I'd like to hear their >opinions. What I don't need to read are those of a bunch of white >people who, like me, are clueless about ebonics... > >theo Theo - I think you've hit the right chord here. Then maybe we could put this entire issue to bed. There are those here, who express the "Freedom of speech" attitude, but there also seems to an element of "Holier than Thou" white hysteria, cramming morals down our throats. I suspect that most members of the list are regular-everyday-type folk who get really pissed-off by the extremists at both ends of the spectrum. I'm not trying to promote the racist attitude, but likewise, neither am I advocating political correctness for its own sake. Unless we hear from somebody actually qualified to give a definitive case, for, or against ebonics, I propose that we call a halt on this line of discusion. I, for one, have just about had enough of it. Let's get our own mother-ship back on course, and discus those issues relevant to HW. Guy. PS, just heard an audience-cassette of Derby. Superb set, and Silver Machine is increadibly heavy - a real stonker! From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Mon Aug 2 12:22:58 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:22:58 +0100 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet Message-ID: There's a 10 minute live version of Space Lord on the cover CD of this months rock sound magazine. Recorded, appropriately enough, in Las Vegas. Z NP Queens Of The Stone Age Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "There's no walls in music. It's like water; there's currents." --Corey Harris From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Mon Aug 2 12:21:34 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:21:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Another compilation appearance Message-ID: Motorway City (Levitation version) is one of the tracks on this months Classic Rock magazine compilation. Z NP Queens of The Stone Age Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "There's no walls in music. It's like water; there's currents." --Corey Harris From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Aug 2 12:48:44 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:48:44 +0100 Subject: OFF: clearing out old albums Message-ID: Dear All, decided I no longer need or want the following while clearing out: anyone interested before I bandy them about the second-hand stalls of Cambridge? CDs: Amon Duul 2 - _Live In Tokyo_ Electric Wizard - _Electric Wizard_ The Fall - _Middle Class Revolt_ Tapes: Black Sabbath - _Master of Reality_ Blue Oyster Cult - _Cultosaurus Erectus_ Blue Oyster Cult - _Imaginos_ CDs all fine, first and third tapes a little aged but functional. Thinking along the lines of 7 stlng per CD, 3 stlng per tape. Anyone interested? Sorry to be commercial and so on - give me a buzz privately. Thanks, yours, Jon From eggfoolejung at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Aug 2 13:25:02 1999 From: eggfoolejung at HOTMAIL.COM (Suicide Victory) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 10:25:02 PDT Subject: HW: Spacerock radio Message-ID: Hello all, After months offlist I seem to have temporarily overcome several fits of spontaneous mutations (Slaine lingo: warp spasms) enough to get it all together and resub in the wake of a mini spacerock radio show.....------> Spacerock playlist, Radio Nova FM 99.3, Oslo, 01/08/99 1 hr. show interspersed with parts of Steve Hackett's "Dark Town" + interview Orange Goblin / Star Shaped Cloud - "Frequencies From Planet Ten", 1997 Alan Davey / Ancient Light - "Captured Rotation", 1996 Alan Davey / Never Come Down - "Captured Rotation" Anubian Lights / The Fire Breathes - "Let Not The Flame Die Out", 1998 Orange Goblin / The Astral Project - "Frequencies From Planet Ten" Orange Goblin / Magic Carpet - "Frequencies From Planet Ten" Not much new as my musical budget has been less than usual, but a massive 6 hour Hawkwind special will be broadcast later this month.... Christian _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 2 13:51:16 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 13:51:16 EDT Subject: HW: Spacerock radio In-Reply-To: <19990802172503.4616.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: > From: Suicide Victory > Hello all, > > After months offlist I seem to have temporarily overcome several fits of > spontaneous mutations (Slaine lingo: warp spasms) enough to get it all > together and resub in the wake of a mini spacerock radio show.....------> > > > Spacerock playlist, Radio Nova FM 99.3, Oslo, 01/08/99 > 1 hr. show interspersed with parts of Steve Hackett's "Dark Town" + > interview > > Orange Goblin / Star Shaped Cloud - "Frequencies From Planet Ten", 1997 > Alan Davey / Ancient Light - "Captured Rotation", 1996 > Alan Davey / Never Come Down - "Captured Rotation" > Anubian Lights / The Fire Breathes - "Let Not The Flame Die Out", 1998 > Orange Goblin / The Astral Project - "Frequencies From Planet Ten" > Orange Goblin / Magic Carpet - "Frequencies From Planet Ten" > > Not much new as my musical budget has been less than usual, but a massive 6 > hour Hawkwind special will be broadcast later this month.... > > Christian > Not THE Christian of old? Welcome back dude, the list needs a transfusion... theo From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Aug 2 14:02:00 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:02:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Spacerock radio In-Reply-To: <19990802172503.4616.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Hey Christian, good choices. Nice to see you back on the list! Things should get odder now... Yours, Jon From eggfoolejung at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Aug 2 14:47:01 1999 From: eggfoolejung at HOTMAIL.COM (Suicide Victory) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 11:47:01 PDT Subject: HW: spacerock radio Message-ID: Hello, After months offlist I seem to have gotten it it together enough to resub in the wake of a mini spacerock radio show.....------> Spacerock playlist, Radio Nova FM 99.3, Oslo, 01/08/99 1 hr. show interspersed with parts of Steve Hackett's "Dark Town" + interview Orange Goblin / Star Shaped Cloud - "Frequencies From Planet Ten", 1997 Alan Davey / Ancient Light - "Captured Rotation", 1996 Alan Davey / Never Come Down - "Captured Rotation" Anubian Lights / The Fire Breathes - "Let Not The Flame Die Out", 1998 Orange Goblin / The Astral Project - "Frequencies From Planet Ten" Orange Goblin / Magic Carpet - "Frequencies From Planet Ten" Not much new as my musical budget has been less than usual, but a massive 6 hour Hawkwind special will be broadcast later this month or next.... Christian PS: anyone get the HW CDRs solicited by Vinyl Addiction this past winter? _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Aug 2 15:14:23 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:14:23 -0400 Subject: OFF: clearing out old albums In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jonathan, => Dear All, => decided I no longer need or want the following while => clearing out: anyone interested before I bandy them about the second-hand => stalls of Cambridge? => => CDs: Amon Duul 2 - _Live In Tokyo_ => Electric Wizard - _Electric Wizard_ => The Fall - _Middle Class Revolt_ => Tapes: Black Sabbath - _Master of Reality_ => Blue Oyster Cult - _Cultosaurus Erectus_ => Blue Oyster Cult - _Imaginos_ => => CDs all fine, first and third tapes a little aged but functional. => Thinking along the lines of 7 stlng per CD, 3 stlng per tape. Anyone => interested? Sorry to be commercial and so on - give me a buzz privately. => Thanks, yours, => Jon I'd be interested in the Electric Wizard CD. Because my Nat West account still has funds in it, I can pay via UK cheque, but how much extra for postage to the USA? Alternatively, if you want to do a straight trade for CD copies of bootlegs, etc., I'd be up for that, too. (E.g., BOC's _The Thing!_; Hawkwind's _Birmingham Kinetic Playground_, _Atomhenge 76_, _Orgasmatron_; Hendrix 1/9/69 [early and late]; Rush 3/29/80; multitudinous Gov't Mule; etc.) Cheers, Paul. NP: moe. Utica, NY, 11/31/98 From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Aug 2 17:06:31 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 17:06:31 -0400 Subject: OFF: Paging Jonathan Jarrett Message-ID: Paging Jonathan Jarrett... Sorry for the public broadcast but I can't seem to e-mail you directly at jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK. Every time I do, my mailer is informed: "Deferred: 450 Site not yet trusted, try later" and the mail doesn't get through. On a wild guess, maybe this is because my machine, like 99% of other machines, doesn't have identd enabled, and so presumably is "untrustworthy" in the eyes of the machine serving your mail. Do others have problems e-mailing you? Do you have another e-mail address at which you may be contacted, that is more "permissive" in who it lets send you e-mail? Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Mon Aug 2 18:09:20 1999 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:09:20 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Live Message-ID: Is it still the general HW consensus that Space Ritual is the best live Hawkwind? After many playings, I can still listen to it and hear sounds I haven't heard before. This was more evident on the remastered cd. Lately though, I've been playing the Love in Space cd again and it too seems to almost get better with age. Any comments? From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Aug 2 18:32:40 1999 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trevor thoms) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 15:32:40 PDT Subject: Inner City Unit Cassettes Message-ID: I wonder if anyone still hasn't got the new Judgement Recs tape list. They are all made by Judge Trev himself (me), and represent excellent value for money. Here it is: Pass-Out ICU Punkadelic ICU The Maximum effect ICU Maiden Voyage Iron Maiden (featuring me, circa 1970) Now You Know The Score ICU (without Nik) all at ?3.99 +p&p (on chrome cassette) Now You Know The Score C.D. ICU ?9.99 + p&p Cheques/P.O.s/hidden cash to: T Thoms, 48 Barbauld Rd, London, N16 OST. p&p add: U.K. 50p - Europe ?1 - U.S.A. ?1.20 - rest of world ?2 per extra item 10p 30p 60p 70p respectively or equivalent currency All buyers will be informed of future I.C.U. activity. How's that for cottage industry. Love, Judge Trev ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Aug 2 19:14:38 1999 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 00:14:38 +0100 Subject: HW: Derby Rock & Blues Message-ID: Andreas Stuewe wrote: > Andreas (a mad German who travelled 1200 miles by car to see a 90 min HW set) Probably about as far as Hawkwind had to travel to play there themselves! I'm just recovering from endless hours in trains including a nightmare (albeit a mercifully short one) link on a massively overcrowded Virgin train where the air conditioning system had broken down. But it was definitely worth doing and I'm very glad I went. The set was terrific and the tracks linked well together. Motorway City was unexpected and sounded strangely light and almost tuneful in relation to more recently done tracks (it is after all written in a different style and a different time) but it fit in well with the concept of the other songs and made good sense following on from Wage War. This was a brave thing to do with a field full of bikers so close to the start of the set and there were certainly a few who wondered what on earth they were listening to. But the vocals were very good and as people began to listen to what was being recited you could feel the attention grow. This was clever. It challenges an audience to listen to something unexpected and powerful it makes them something less than just recipients of sound from a stage. It makes them think - which I guess is why Calvert did it in the first place. Well, I was impressed anyway! And the version of Sonic Attack I preferred as well - as did others in the crowd - certainly the bloke who went into a frenzy of joy and started doing headstands in the audience did. By heck it had some effect did that track! Amazing stuff. Oh - and a full moon rose steadily over the tents just as Wage War was in full flow and a satellite burnt out with a flash in the sky right over the stage soon after everything started** just all part of the atmosphere! **I do not jest - and yes I was almost completely sober! At least it was either a chunk of space debris being consumed in the atmosphere or it was a meteorite but it's the wrong time of year for the latter. It was an excellent evening - and a shame it only happened once but there you are. Didn't manage to meet up with anyone from the list until the Alan Davey gig but thanks Marie for getting us backstage to meet him - that made the weekend complete! In all a definitely worthwhile trip. jill -- ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Aug 2 19:21:24 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 19:21:24 EDT Subject: Hawkwind Live<<== oh hell yeah!!! Message-ID: In a message dated 8/2/99 6:12:16 PM, DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM writes: <" ps >> i had also been sent sent the original canadian vinyl version by mike coleman of delta wave music who felt there were differences to it... he thought so anyway "<>" From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Aug 2 21:10:40 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 02:10:40 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Live In-Reply-To: <4327A1883D21D311AC9400508B0A1B9E6413F3@NTGUSLAEXS1> Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Aug 1999, Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] wrote: > Is it still the general HW consensus that Space Ritual is the best live > Hawkwind? After many playings, I can still listen to it and hear sounds I > haven't heard before. This was more evident on the remastered cd. Lately > though, I've been playing the Love in Space cd again and it too seems to > almost get better with age. This used to be my opinion, but _LiS_, though it is very good, is growing samey for me now. _Space Ritual_ is unbeatable. That said, I rate _California Brainstorm_, _Palace Springs_ and _This Is Hawkwind Do Not Panic_ quite highly too. While I'm here, anyone give me a quality assessment on _Out & Intake_? It's been sitting around one of the second-hand shops here and I keep feeling I should buy it, but haven't quite plucked up yet. Thoughts welcomed. Yours, Jon From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Mon Aug 2 22:22:35 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:22:35 -0500 Subject: OFF: dialect posts Message-ID: Tom Clark wrote: > Wow.....again.... > > I sure did not intend for the previous discussion to continue futher in > this fashion...now, it really is turning into something ugly....the > Onion is quite funny, but the ebonics thing ought to be left alone and > my posting taken as intended, and not any more than that. > > Sorry for bringing it up to begin with..... A reference to the Onion should only bring joy and levity to such a draining string of messages. It seems everything must be brutally judged and labelled as racist (when it is clearly not in this case), out of fear of offending someone otherwise. This only draws more attention to this 'ugly' subject and poisons any attempt to get off of it with good humor. Not a single person on this list has racist intentions in anything they post, and this should be obvious. From tclark at PETRONET.NET Mon Aug 2 22:57:33 1999 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:57:33 -0500 Subject: Huw Lloyd-Langton Message-ID: No, this has nothing to do with Ebonics. (whew!) Had a marathon Hawkwind listening session last night (some new converts), and was just wondering what Huw LLoyd Langton was up to these days. I really enjoyed his guitar playing, as it did add a distinct flavor to Hawkwind's music at the time. Gotta love the album Sonic Attack. Most recent discussions have revolved around Nik, and current Hawkwind and related happenings, but not much word on Huw. Does he still play gigs, any involvement whatsoever with Hawkwind or related bands? Hmmmmmm. TC From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Aug 3 02:49:04 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 02:49:04 EDT Subject: OFF: Space Does Not Care Set-list Message-ID: "Space Does Not Care", 7/31/99, 88.3 FM, KUCR, every Sat eve. 7-9 PST 1.Darxtar--Eternal War 2.Pressurehed--Silver Bird/Mastadon (Space Daze comp) 3.Celtic Frost--Circle of the Tyrants 4.Hawkwind--Nuclear Toy 5.13th Floor Elevators--Fire Engine 6.Space Explosion--Dino's Dream 7.Dfuse--Libra (Amberdelic Space comp) 8.Ozric Tentacles--Symetricum 9.Anubian Lights--Arc of Ra 10.Gong--Sold to the Highest Buddha/Castle in the Clouds 11.Zappa/Mothers--Help I'm a Rock/Transilvania Boogie (Ahead of Their Time) 12.The Orb--Close Encounters 13.Farflung--Greater Waters 14.Melting Euphoria--Under Virgo's Sun 15.Nik Turner--Osiris Thanks, Chuck From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Tue Aug 3 06:44:45 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:44:45 +0100 Subject: HW: Eclipse in Cornwall Message-ID: Hello! The Eclipse gig address is: Chynowetth Farm Carleen Helston Cornwall Opposite the chapel in Carleen, go down Chytodden Lane. There will be people there all week. As it is officially a wedding reception, guests are asked to make a donation of about ?10 for a wedding present! Guests will be welcome to stay and camp all week. Passport applicants who have not had their passports returned to them need not worry as we have a list. Guests arriving without passports will be asked to fill in a form at the gate and must bring 2 passport sized photographs with them. See you all there! HW P.S. The "Weird Tapes" CD covers look great. From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Tue Aug 3 07:10:42 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 12:10:42 +0100 Subject: HW: Wedding in Cornwall Message-ID: Hello! The Eclipse gig address is: Chynowetth Farm Carleen Helston Cornwall Opposite the chapel in Carleen, go down Chytodden Lane. There will be people there all week. As it is officially a wedding reception, guests are asked to make a donation of about ?10 for a wedding present! All guests should wear Carnations. Guests will be welcome to stay and camp all week. Passport applicants who have not had their passports returned to them need not worry as we have a list. Guests arriving without passports will be asked to fill in a form at the gate and must bring 2 passport sized photographs with them. See you all there! HW P.S. The "Weird Tapes" CD covers look great. From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Tue Aug 3 07:41:36 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 12:41:36 +0100 Subject: HW: Help Message-ID: Why are my messages not being posted? They do not come back, they appear in my sent box, but they do not appear anywhere......or do they??? Trying to post info about Eclipse party. Can I send to someone else to post? Kris From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Tue Aug 3 06:33:58 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 11:33:58 +0100 Subject: HW: Eclipse party Message-ID: Hello! The Eclipse gig address is: Chynowetth Farm Carleen Helston Cornwall Opposite the chapel in Carleen, go down Chytodden Lane. There will be people there all week. As it is officially a wedding reception, guests are asked to make a donation of about ?10 for a wedding present! Guests will be welcome to stay and camp all week. Passport applicants who have not had their passports returned to them need not worry as we have a list. Guests arriving without passports will be asked to fill in a form at the gate and must bring 2 passport sized photographs with them. See you all there! HW From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Aug 3 12:15:24 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:15:24 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind in Cornish Message-ID: It would seem we are not the only ones engaged on this final dreadful quest... Yours, Jon P.S. sent to me by a friend: I don't actually read it myself you understand... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 00:24:12 GMT From: andy roberts Newsgroups: uk.media.radio.archers Subject: Re: Hawkwind in Cornish ( was Worst first record. (Was Men & Sex in TA) >In a pleasing confluence of threads, my first single was Hawkwind's >"Silver Machine". In a pleasing confluence of newsgroups, somebody really needed to know the cornish ( kernowek) translation for "I've got a silver machine" and lo, the answer has been forthcoming: " yma jynnji arghans dhymm". It's pronounced [imah gingee arkhanz thim] From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Tue Aug 3 12:40:59 1999 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (Michael R Godwin) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 17:40:59 +0100 Subject: BOC: Concert bills In-Reply-To: <6eb545f2.24d23d7d@aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Jul 1999 DASLUD at aol.com wrote: > ====it aint like i wanna bat this question around, but why would anyone have > been "gawping" at bob geldof way back in 1975? Good question. He had just formed the Boomtown Rats, but I don't think that I would have known that. I guess that in those days he was just a well-known rock journalist. BOC were definitely headlining, and Motorhead were the support act. - Mike Godwin PS to Albert: Go ahead and publish those diaries! You could always disguise the entries with false names, like Alec Flower and Stag Karma ... From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Aug 3 12:31:09 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 12:31:09 -0400 Subject: OFF: Roye Albrighton Chat Message-ID: Hi Folks... Forwarding from USENET...FYI...Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Not sure about that time. We here are in EDT now (not EST), which is only 4 hours difference from GMT. So does that mean it's really at 5:30 pm EDT? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Due to Roye's very busy schedule, the Live chat with Roye Albrighton from >Nektar, will be next week, Sunday Aug 8, in a Yahoo chatroom for all his fans. >The time of the chat will be 4:30 p.m. E.S.T. or 9:30 p.m. England time. > >Look for Cnektar under who's chatting and go there!!!! > >If you need anymore info contact me Cnektar at aol.com > >http://chat.yahoo.com/?room=music at entertainment From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Tue Aug 3 12:49:20 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 12:49:20 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Live<<== oh hell yeah!!! In-Reply-To: <2cdacb36.24d781f4@aol.com>; from DASLUD@AOL.COM on Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 07:21:24PM -0400 Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 02, 1999 at 07:21:24PM -0400, DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 8/2/99 6:12:16 PM, DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM writes: > > < Hawkwind? After many playings, I can still listen to it and hear sounds I > haven't heard before. This was more evident on the remastered cd. > ====== > this one says "oh hell yeah" > ex==cla==ma==cion==POINT! I don't know if it's the "general HW consensus", but I know you'll have no trouble finding people who agree. > my stepmother said i listened to trash, not music > my teenage true love had said "this is just noise" > me, i said > "oh hell yeah" I married the only woman I ever met who liked Space Ritual. ;-) Steve swann at plutonia.com From imaginos at PAVILION.CO.UK Tue Aug 3 15:18:57 1999 From: imaginos at PAVILION.CO.UK (Jason Gool) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:18:57 +0000 Subject: HW: I've got a Silver Machine In-Reply-To: <37A2DFB9.89365637@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: Here it is in Cornish: Yma jynn arghans dhymm. Phonetic: imah gin arkhanz thim Jas. From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Tue Aug 3 15:16:52 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 15:16:52 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Live Message-ID: I do not regret buying it, although many of the tracks are available elsewhere. I really like Huw alot, tho'... I still listen to it. As to best live HW: I swing from space ritual to live chronicles, depending on my mood. The ones you mentioned are all great- I mean, I am totally into them- but for me they do not approach SR or LC. >On Mon, 2 Aug 1999, Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] wrote: > >> Is it still the general HW consensus that Space Ritual is the best live >> Hawkwind? After many playings, I can still listen to it and hear sounds I >> haven't heard before. This was more evident on the remastered cd. Lately >> though, I've been playing the Love in Space cd again and it too seems to >> almost get better with age. > > This used to be my opinion, but _LiS_, though it is very good, is >growing samey for me now. _Space Ritual_ is unbeatable. That said, I rate >_California Brainstorm_, _Palace Springs_ and _This Is Hawkwind Do Not >Panic_ quite highly too. > > While I'm here, anyone give me a quality assessment on _Out & >Intake_? It's been sitting around one of the second-hand shops here and I >keep feeling I should buy it, but haven't quite plucked up yet. Thoughts >welcomed. Yours, > Jon From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Aug 3 19:57:42 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 16:57:42 -0700 Subject: Hawkwind Live Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Aug 1999 02:10:40 +0100, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >On Mon, 2 Aug 1999, Ductor, Dan [NEUUS] wrote: > >> Is it still the general HW consensus that Space Ritual is the best live >> Hawkwind? After many playings, I can still listen to it and hear sounds I >> haven't heard before. This was more evident on the remastered cd. Lately >> though, I've been playing the Love in Space cd again and it too seems to >> almost get better with age. > > This used to be my opinion, but _LiS_, though it is very good, is >growing samey for me now. _Space Ritual_ is unbeatable. Yeah, I think the only recent (90's) release that could potentially rival 'Space Ritual' would be 'The 1999 Party'. And great as that one is (especially since it's a very different band with Simon House instead of Dik Mik), I'd still say that 'Space Ritual' IS still unbeatable. I really like the 'Live 1976' CD-R boot that came out last(?) year, too; that's definitely a tour that needs "official" documentation (that will hopefully sound better than the boot!) - is it still listed on the "coming soon" list on the Mission Control page? The Neu-like version of "Uncle Sam's On Mars" (nothing like either the version on 'PXR5' or the Hawklords version on the Weird tape) is definitely worth the price of admission on that one, but finally getting to hear "Time For Sale" was pretty revelatory too (with all of Paul Rudolph's funky-bass playing), and hearing the verse of "Back On The Streets" that's missing from the studio version was also cool. >That said, I rate >_California Brainstorm_, _Palace Springs_ and _This Is Hawkwind Do Not >Panic_ quite highly too. I definitely have a bias in favor of 'California Brainstorm' ;^) but I wish that one had Simon House on it (I suppose that's what the 'Live Legends' video is for!), and I like the other two. Especially the two 1984 songs on 'This Is Hawkwind Do Not Panic' (even if the credits on "Watching The Grass Grow" are wrong again, sheesh - one would think Trev Thoms had never existed); there aren't enough Hawkwind live recordings that have great JAMS like "Stonehenge Decoded" (the closest recent example I can think of is "Starfire Mountain Dreaming" from the Bob Lennon/Hawk US SD98 CD-R, and that one's still missing our favorite guitarist). The second LP of 'Text of Festival' and the "Watchfield" jam from the Weird tape that found its way onto the Anthology/Acid Daze set are probably my favorite live Hawkwind behind 'Space Ritual'. > While I'm here, anyone give me a quality assessment on _Out & >Intake_? It's been sitting around one of the second-hand shops here and I >keep feeling I should buy it, but haven't quite plucked up yet. Thoughts >welcomed. If you already have a copy of 'Bring Me The Head Of Yuri Gagarin', then go for it! ;^). Seriously, it's easily one of the most non-essential Hawkwind albums, but it still has its moments. It's mostly studio jams, with a couple remakes (I do *really* like the version of "Solitary Mind Games" with flute all over it that was referred to in the recent Nik thread) and one track of Nik having a saxophone seizure (something I like, but then again, I like Ornette Coleman, too). If you like the Huw era a lot, you should probably go ahead and pick it up. If you don't, then I won't tell you what to do ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Aug 3 22:54:43 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 22:54:43 -0400 Subject: BOC: VH1 show Message-ID: Talk talk talk. Is that all Allen Lanier does? Always has to be out front in the limelight. ;-) Interesting that Buck didn't have anything to say. After all, BOC is *almost* the Buck Dharma Band these days.... Brian obCD> "Heavy Horses" -Jethro Tull unrelated, but excellent From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Tue Aug 3 21:59:01 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 21:59:01 -0400 Subject: BOC: VH1's Where are they now? Message-ID: Well, VH1 just managed to do a remarkable segment on BOC. As part of their "Where are they now?" series, they did a short segment on 3OC, still touring, blah blah blah... managing never *once* to mention Al, Joe, The Brain Surgeons, The X Brothers, or even Soft White Underbelly/Stalk Forrest (despite the fact that the video clips repeatedly focussed on Al and Joe). Also, although they referred to Eric as "the group's vocalist", every single song clip they showed had Buck singing. ;-) It's really galling that they didn't mention Al or Joe, because it's normal for a "Where are they now?" to feature a short segment on what *all* the original band members are currently doing, and what Al and Joe have been doing is *still writing and performing*. And I'm sure that a mention on VH1 would have exposed the Brain Surgeons and the X Brothers to several hundred thousand potential fans. Argh. Nice research, VH1. Steve swann at plutonia.com From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 4 07:00:19 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:00:19 +0100 Subject: Badam99 Message-ID: The web site says they may have a postponement to the weekend of September 9th and 10th. They're still discussing it with the police. They'll have a "special" Hawkwind show and Bedouuin, Arthur Brown and Daevid Allen will play. They have a lower ticket allocation and tickets will be exchanged for the new festival on a first come first served basis with earlier exchanges warranting better "seats" for the Hawkwidn gig. Could be that there'll be a Hawkwind reunion show there too now. The "seats" comment may indicate that they're going to go with plan B and hold the festival in town using gigs and clubs for the bands. Anyway, get thee hence to the web site if you gotta exchange tickets... FoFP From m.r.varley at UCLAN.AC.UK Wed Aug 4 12:39:21 1999 From: m.r.varley at UCLAN.AC.UK (m.r.varley) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:39:21 GMT+0 Subject: Remastered CDs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello List I have just seen that CDNow have a 30% discount on all gold remastered CDs - these include the recent BOC/T&M and AoF discs at $18.18. I have the BOC/T&M - can anyone recommend the remastered AoF? I already have the pre-remastered AoF so is the newer version worth getting? See these at: www.cdnow.com Martin From merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK Wed Aug 4 09:13:49 1999 From: merlinas at DIRCON.CO.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:13:49 +0100 Subject: HW: Epoch-Eclipse Message-ID: Hello there - just joined the list and thought it was about time I contributed something... Just received the new catalogue from CDS in Dundee and it includes several things of interest. As we already know, the 2 Epoch-Eclipse CDs are due on Aug 30, with the following tracks: Epoch-Eclipse: The Ultimate Best of Hawkwind Silver Machine/Master Of The Universe/Urban Guerilla/Sonic Attack/Psychedelic Warlords (7")/Assault & BatteryMotorhead/ Back On The Streets/Quark, Strangeness & Charm/25 Years (7")/Motorway City/Angels Of Death (7")/Night Of The Hawks/ Needle Gun/Right To Decide (radio edit - presumably the Alien Prophets remix?)/Alien (I Am) (Roswell edit)/Love In Space (CD single)/Silver Machine (KLF remix - short version) Epoch-Eclipse: 30 Year Anthology Hurry On Sundown/Paranoia (Part 2)/Master Of The Universe/Children Of The Sun/Silver Machine/Seven By Seven/Brainstorm/ Space Is Deep/Urban Guerilla/Brainbox Pollution/Sonic Attack/Orgone Accumulator/Lost Johnny/Psychedelic Warlords/Motorhead/ Assault & Battery/The Golden Void/Magnu/Kerb Crawler/Steppenwolf/Back On The Streets/Quark, Strangeness & Charm/ Hassan I Sahba/Spirit Of The Age/Psi Power/25 Years/High Rise/Death Trap/Uncle Sam's On Mars/Shot Down In The Night (7")/ Motorway City/Levitation/Angels Of Death/Coded Languages/Some People Never Die/Choose Your Masques/Night Of The Hawks/ Needle Gun/The War I Survived/Black Elk Speaks/Right To Decide/Sputnik Stan/Love In Space/Silver Machine (KLF remix - full version) I'm sure we all have our own opinions about compilations, but this looks like a reasonable stab to me (but maybe not as varied as the 25 Years box). Some People Never Die, though?! Oh, and CDS claim that the single release of Silver Machine may not now happen. Sadly, it looks like the Bass Ritual remix CD (and Earth Calling CD single - didn't know about this before, but never mind...) have been cancelled. I hope this isn't the end of the story, as I was looking forward to that. Wonder what happened? BTW, anyone heard the remastered Xenon Codex? I always thought the original to be well murky. Is this any improvement? Cheers Dave Bottomley -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 4 10:05:45 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 10:05:45 EDT Subject: where are they now? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: So how come nobody's talking about the VH1 show last night? Great spot with EB explaining the demise of the laser show. It will be re-broadcast friday at 1pm, so set those timers... theo From farmer at ALLENCC.NET Wed Aug 4 05:25:12 1999 From: farmer at ALLENCC.NET (Don Farmer) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 09:25:12 +0000 Subject: test Message-ID: Dose anyone know about Blue Oyster Cult playing in Kansas City? I heard about it several weeks ago, but haven't heard about it since. I hope it is still going to happen. Don. From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Thu Aug 5 10:57:45 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:57:45 +0100 Subject: OFF: clearing out old albums In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 02 Aug 1999 15:14:23 EDT." Message-ID: > => Electric Wizard - _Electric Wizard_ > => > => Jon > > I'd be interested in the Electric Wizard CD. Because my Nat West > account still has funds in it, I can pay via UK cheque, but how much > extra for postage to the USA? What do these guys sound like, out of curiosity ? I've seen CDs by them (including a double) - wondered if they were sabbath clones or sub par doom merchants /stoner / sludge whatever. Also anybody heard stuff by Turbonegro ? One of there's going pretty cheap near me too. cheers Tim From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Wed Aug 4 16:52:20 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 21:52:20 +0100 Subject: HW: Eclipse wedding party Message-ID: Hello! The Eclipse party address is: Chynowetth Farm Carleen Helston Cornwall Opposite the chapel in Carleen, go down Chytodden Lane. There will be people there all week. As it is officially a wedding reception, guests are asked to make a donation of about ?10 for a wedding present! All guests should wear Carnations. Guests will be welcome to stay and camp all week. Passport applicants who have not had their passports returned to them need not worry as we have a list. Guests arriving without passports will be asked to fill in a form at the gate and must bring 2 passport sized photographs with them. See you all there! HW From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Wed Aug 4 19:32:00 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 18:32:00 -0500 Subject: OFF:test Message-ID: test! From squinn at PALMNET.NET Wed Aug 4 20:12:00 1999 From: squinn at PALMNET.NET (Shawn Quinn) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 20:12:00 -0400 Subject: OFF: Test Message-ID: Folks - I have not received a message in 2 days. Can someone respond directly to me if the list server is still up ? Thanks, Shawn From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Aug 4 20:10:59 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 01:10:59 +0100 Subject: off: test (please ignore) Message-ID: ping "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Aug 4 22:29:14 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:29:14 -0400 Subject: OFF: Primordial Undermind Message-ID: I spotted a CD in the used racks by The Primordial Undermind today. It was called (if memory serves) _Yet More Wonders of the Invisible World_. I seem to recall them mentioned on BOC-L recently. Is this CD worth picking up??? Cheers, Paul. NP: Nebula, _Let It Burn_ From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Wed Aug 4 21:52:02 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:52:02 +1100 Subject: HW: Epoch-Eclipse Track Listings Message-ID: 3CD 30 YEARS ANTHOLOGY Track 01:HURRY ON SUNDOWN Track 02:PARANOIA-PART 2 Track 03:MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE Track 04:CHILDREN OF THE SUN Track 05:SILVER MACHINE-ORIGINAL SINGLE VERSION Track 06:SEVEN BY SEVEN-ORIGINAL VERSION Track 07:BRAINSTORM Track 08:SPACE IS DEEP Track 09:URBAN GUERILLA Track 10:BRAINBOX POLLUTION Track 11:SONIC ATTACK Track 12:ORGONE ACCUMULATOR Track 13:LOST JOHNNY Track 14:PSYCHEDELIC WARLORDS-SINGLE EDIT Track 15:CD 2: MOTORHEAD Track 16:ASSAULT & BATTARY-PART 1 Track 17:MAGNU Track 18:KERB CRAWLER Track 19:STEPPENWOLF Track 20:BACK ON THE STREETS Track 21:QUARK STRANGENESS AND CHARM Track 22:HASSAN I SHABA Track 23:SPIRIT OF THE AGE Track 24:PSI POWER Track 25:25 YEARS-12''REMIX Track 26:HIGH RISE Track 27:DEATH TRAP Track 28:UNCLE SAM'S ON MARS Track 29:CD 3: SHOT DOWN THE NIGHT-LIVE Track 30:MOTORWAY CITY Track 31:LEVITATION Track 32:ANGELS OF DEATH Track 33:CODED LANGUAGE Track 34:SOME PEOPLE NEVER DIE Track 35:CHOOSE YOUR MASQUES Track 36:NIGHT OF THE HAWKS Track 37:NEEDLE GUN Track 38:THE WAR I SURVIVED Track 39:BLACK ELK SPEAKS Track 40:RIGHT TO DECIDE Track 41:SPUTNIK STAN Track 42:LOVE IN SPACE Track 43:SILVER MACHINE-FULL VERSION (INFECTED BY THE Track 44:SCOURGE OF THE EARTH) EPOCH ECLIPSE : Track 01:SILVER MACHINE Track 02:MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE Track 03:URBAN GUERILLA Track 04:SONIC ATTACK Track 05:PSYCHODELIC WARLORDS-SINGLE EDIT Track 06:ASSAULT & BATTARY PART 1 Track 07:MOTORHEAD Track 08:BACK ON THE STREETS Track 09:QUARK STRANGENESS AND CHARM Track 10:25 YEARS-12''REMIX Track 11:MOTORWAY CITY Track 12:ANGELS OF THE DEATH-SINGLE EDIT Track 13:NIGHT OF THE HAWKS Track 14:NEEDLE GUN Track 15:RIGHT TO DECIDE-RADIO EDIT MIX BY ALLEN PROPHETS Track 16:ALIEN I AM-ROSWELL EDIT Track 17:LOVE IN SPACE-SINGEL MIX Track 18:SILVER MACHINE s. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Aug 5 02:41:41 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:41:41 EDT Subject: OFF:Fwd: Terrascopic News Message-ID: hope it arrives in readable form "<>" -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Jsexbomb at aol.com Subject: Fwd: Terrascopic News Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:38:58 EDT Size: 6697 URL: From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Aug 5 11:04:10 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 11:04:10 -0400 Subject: BOC: VH1's Where are they now? Message-ID: >It's really galling that they didn't mention Al or Joe, because it's >normal for a "Where are they now?" to feature a short segment on what >*all* the original band members are currently doing, and what Al and >Joe have been doing is *still writing and performing*. And I'm sure >that a mention on VH1 would have exposed the Brain Surgeons and the X >Brothers to several hundred thousand potential fans. > >Argh. Nice research, VH1. Well, Al did mention he didn't have much regard for those "where are they now" programs... "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Aug 5 03:18:46 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:18:46 EDT Subject: OFF:testing testing Message-ID: no boc-l mail at all today and something i just forwarded re: terrastock didnt show up everything okay on your end? "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Aug 5 03:39:32 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 03:39:32 EDT Subject: :OFF: uh-oh... Message-ID: yeah, something is indeed amiss... hope it's not critical get well soon ?"<>" From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Aug 3 04:11:50 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:11:50 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Live In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Jonathan Jarrett writes >_Space Ritual_ is unbeatable. SR is unbeatable. 1999 deserves a mention here, though. > While I'm here, anyone give me a quality assessment on _Out & >Intake_? It's been sitting around one of the second-hand shops here and I >keep feeling I should buy it, but haven't quite plucked up yet. Thoughts >welcomed. Yours, In addition to yer Captain, it has Alan, Huw, Nik and Harvey. Could hardly be bad, then, could it? -- Jon ObCD From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 5 08:48:36 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:48:36 +0100 Subject: new BBC CD? Message-ID: Is this getting to anyone as of the 5th or is the list broken? Did anyone ever see a copy of the alleged new BBC CD? FoFP From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Thu Aug 5 10:30:41 1999 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:30:41 +0200 Subject: HW: Hawkwind at Eclipse festival in Cornwall Message-ID: Hi folks Kris Tait asked me fo forward this mail to the list. So here it is: >Hello! > >The Eclipse party address is: > >Chynowetth Farm >Carleen >Helston >Cornwall > >Opposite the chapel in Carleen, go down Chytodden Lane. > >There will be people there all week. > >As it is officially a wedding reception, guests are asked to make a >donation of about ?10 for a wedding present! > >All guests should wear carnations. > >Guests will be welcome to stay and camp all week. > >Passport applicants who have not had their passports returned to them need >not worry as we have a list. > >Guests arriving without passports will be asked to fill in a form at the >gate and must bring 2 passport sized photographs with them. > >See you all there! > >HW From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 5 11:48:54 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:48:54 +0100 Subject: Huw Lloyd-Langton In-Reply-To: Tom Clark's message of Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:57:33 -0500 Message-ID: Tom Clark writes: > Most recent discussions have revolved around Nik, and current Hawkwind and > related happenings, but not much word on Huw. Does he still play gigs, any > involvement whatsoever with Hawkwind or related bands? Hmmmmmm. He played with Alan Davey's Bedouin at The Rigger in Newcastle Under Lyme last Sunday night. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 5 11:56:54 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 16:56:54 +0100 Subject: Badam99 and other "Reunion" gigs. In-Reply-To: M Holmes's message of Wed, 4 Aug 1999 12:00:19 +0100 Message-ID: M Holmes writes: > The web site says they may have a postponement to the weekend of > September 9th and 10th. They're still discussing it with the police. > They'll have a "special" Hawkwind show and Bedouuin, Arthur Brown and > Daevid Allen will play. They have a lower ticket allocation and tickets > will be exchanged for the new festival on a first come first served > basis with earlier exchanges warranting better "seats" for the Hawkwidn > gig. > > Could be that there'll be a Hawkwind reunion show there too now. The > "seats" comment may indicate that they're going to go with plan B and > hold the festival in town using gigs and clubs for the bands. > > Anyway, get thee hence to the web site if you gotta exchange tickets... There are further rumours, and I stress *rumours*: One is that Dave Brock will be on holiday for a fortnight from the 28th and that Badam99 will happen even later in September in order to ensure that Hawkwind can appear. No sign of this on the Badam99 web site. It would also mean that the Edinburgh Festival reunion gig and the Brixton reunion gigs aren't going to happen. The recurring rumour that Lemmy won't appear because of an argument about travel costs is also doing the rounds again. Given that some of us have to decide whether to ask for a Badam99 refund or exchange the tickets for a chance to see a Hawkwind reunion, never mind plan travel and leave from work, it would be very useful if someone could post Hawkwind's position regarding these gigs. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 5 12:01:12 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 17:01:12 +0100 Subject: FAO Hawkwind: Silver Machine cancelled? In-Reply-To: David Bottomley's message of Wed, 4 Aug 1999 14:13:49 +0100 Message-ID: David Bottomley writes: > > Oh, and CDS claim that the single release of Silver Machine may not now = > happen. Is that the "Scourge of the Earth" one? If it is cancelled, any chance of a less "official" release for fan/passport distribution? A few have been made for radio network distribution anyway haven't they? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 5 12:03:34 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 17:03:34 +0100 Subject: New Remasters better sound? Message-ID: In Andy Garibaldi's latest list he comments that the six new remasterd Hawkwind albums have much better sound. Does anyone concur with this? I dunno whether to blow the Federation Credits on these or not. I've got more than enough copies of most albums and I dislike these card covers because they're hard to store and easy to damage. FoFP From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Thu Aug 5 12:10:26 1999 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 17:10:26 +0100 Subject: HW gig info required Message-ID: Dear people, I am trying to plan a trip up north, to see a chum now residing near dundee. Obviously if I could arrange it to coincide with a scottish HW gig that would be extra fine. Are there are rumours of how the tour is shaping up? I'm planning to come up in the usual autumn tour time, with a fair amount of lee-way at the moment. Mike From clemens at TRAIL.COM Thu Aug 5 12:16:53 1999 From: clemens at TRAIL.COM (Clemens & Associates) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:16:53 -0600 Subject: HW: Help Message-ID: Kris wrote: Why are my messages not being posted? They do not come back, they appear in my sent box, but they do not appear anywhere......or do they??? Trying to post info about Eclipse party. Can I send to someone else to post? Kris They came through for me....all four times. The other Mark L. clemens at trail.com From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Thu Aug 5 12:37:02 1999 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:37:02 +0200 Subject: HW: HAWKWIND gig in Cornwall next Wednesday Message-ID: Hi Folks Who is going to the HAWKWIND gig in Cornwall next Wednesday (11.08.199) ? I am curious. It will be an exceptional gig. I am very sure! cheers Bernhard From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Thu Aug 5 12:40:45 1999 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:40:45 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind Live Message-ID: I only picked up Out and Intake last year. In my opinion, it's a must have for any HW fan. I mentioned that I feel that both Space Ritual (a CLASSIC) and Love in Space were both great live albums, but my brain must have been missing a few cells that day. I forgot about the 1999 party album. I have been keeping it in my cd player for months. It's another killer live album...I just wish I had a video of that performance. Dr. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Jon Browne [SMTP:jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 1:12 AM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: Hawkwind Live In article , Jonathan Jarrett writes >_Space Ritual_ is unbeatable. SR is unbeatable. 1999 deserves a mention here, though. > While I'm here, anyone give me a quality assessment on _Out & >Intake_? It's been sitting around one of the second-hand shops here and I >keep feeling I should buy it, but haven't quite plucked up yet. Thoughts >welcomed. Yours, In addition to yer Captain, it has Alan, Huw, Nik and Harvey. Could hardly be bad, then, could it? -- Jon ObCD From james.hogard at JUNO.COM Thu Aug 5 11:06:16 1999 From: james.hogard at JUNO.COM (James A Hogard) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:06:16 -0500 Subject: BOC: Got Cable? Message-ID: >> Changed Show: >> August 16: Was at Graham Central Station in Odessa Texas. Now is at >> Graham Central Station in San Angelo, TX. My pointless comment: I was at Graham's in Odessa a couple of weeks ago, and take my word that this was a good change. Hogard From mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM Thu Aug 5 13:02:23 1999 From: mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM (Matthew Braun) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:02:23 CDT Subject: BOC: VH1's Where are they now? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 05 Aug 1999 12:38:26 CDT." <199908051638.MAA12355@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Stephen Swann writes: >Well, VH1 just managed to do a remarkable segment on BOC. As part of >their "Where are they now?" series, they did a short segment on 3OC, >still touring, blah blah blah... managing never *once* to mention Al, >Joe, The Brain Surgeons, The X Brothers, or even Soft White >Underbelly/Stalk Forrest (despite the fact that the video clips >repeatedly focussed on Al and Joe). Now you weren't paying attention to earlier aspersions cast upon this appearance when it was announced, and still sight unseen, were ya Steve? :-) This is what I figured they'd do. The show drives me up the wall because of this. They did the same thing for "Wall Of Voodoo", completely IGNORING the lead singer (Stan Ridgeway, who is still out there making decent albums) and two other members, and instead focused on one of the guitarists who's splits his time between soundtracks for porno films and a leather/fetish shop. >Argh. Nice research, VH1. Research? Oh, Mr. Swann, you're too kind... m@ (smug as hell) OBCD: The Firesign Theatre, "Give Me Immortality Or Give Me Death" From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 5 13:04:48 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:04:48 +0100 Subject: HW gig info required In-Reply-To: M S Wright's message of Thu, 5 Aug 1999 17:10:26 +0100 Message-ID: M S Wright writes: > Dear people, > > I am trying to plan a trip up north, to see a chum now residing near > dundee. Obviously if I could arrange it to coincide with a scottish HW gig > that would be extra fine. Are there are rumours of how the tour is shaping > up? I'm planning to come up in the usual autumn tour time, with a fair > amount of lee-way at the moment. I've not heard anything except the rumoured Edinburgh Festival gig on Aug 28th. You're welcome to stop over in Edinburgh when you do make it up here though - so long as you don't keep me up as late as last time :-) > Mike FoFP From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Thu Aug 5 13:19:07 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:19:07 -0400 Subject: BOC: VH1, AoF Remaster Message-ID: > Well, VH1 just managed to do a remarkable segment on BOC. As part of > their "Where are they now?" series, they did a short segment on 3OC, > still touring, blah blah blah... managing never *once* to mention Al, > Joe, The Brain Surgeons, The X Brothers, or even Soft White > Underbelly/Stalk Forrest (despite the fact that the video clips > repeatedly focussed on Al and Joe). Also, although they referred to > Eric as "the group's vocalist", every single song clip they showed had > Buck singing. ;-) > > It's really galling that they didn't mention Al or Joe, because it's > normal for a "Where are they now?" to feature a short segment on what > *all* the original band members are currently doing, and what Al and > Joe have been doing is *still writing and performing*. And I'm sure > that a mention on VH1 would have exposed the Brain Surgeons and the X > Brothers to several hundred thousand potential fans. > Reports on alt.music.blueoystercult have also been dissapointing. Apparently they spent more time on several bands, and only about 3 minutes on BOC. And HOW do you mention "Where are they now?" in terms of BOC and not mention either the band's large Internet following, or Heaven Forbid? While I'm not surprised that Al/Joe received no mention, it is unfortunate. After all, they have released 6 albums to BOC's 1 in the last 10 years (of course I'm not counting compilations...). > I have the BOC/T&M - can anyone recommend the remastered > AoF? I already have the pre-remastered AoF so is the newer > version worth getting? Yes. The original AoF is not bad, so the sound quality improvement is not dramatic, but it is there. Also, the expanded liner notes with new notes by Buck are a nice touch. John A. Swartz - The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA - jswartz at mitre.org "Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to Anger - Anger leads to Hate - HATE leads to SUFFERING." -- Yoda (Star Wars: Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace) From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Aug 5 14:03:25 1999 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:03:25 +0100 Subject: HW: HAWKWIND gig in Cornwall next Wednesday Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Bernhard Pospiech To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Thursday, August 05, 1999 5:37 PM Subject: HW: HAWKWIND gig in Cornwall next Wednesday > Hi Folks > > Who is going to the HAWKWIND gig in Cornwall next Wednesday (11.08.199) ? > > I am curious. > > It will be an exceptional gig. I am very sure! I'm planning to go early Monday, just hope the traffic isn't too bad. Neil. From dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK Thu Aug 5 15:08:10 1999 From: dave at PARMA29.FREESERVE.CO.UK (david hall) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:08:10 +0100 Subject: HW: Help Message-ID: They're being posted ok. Dave H -----Original Message----- From: XXX To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 05 August 1999 15:56 Subject: HW: Help >Why are my messages not being posted? >They do not come back, they appear in my sent box, but they do not appear >anywhere......or do they??? >Trying to post info about Eclipse party. Can I send to someone else to >post? >Kris > From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Aug 5 18:19:04 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 23:19:04 +0100 Subject: Off: The Sopranos Message-ID: Dear All, Can anyone help me out here: I'm hypnotised by the theme music for this TV series, what the hell is it? Cheers, ChrisW "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Aug 5 18:43:49 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:43:49 -0700 Subject: HW: OFF: another Silver Machine Message-ID: ... was browsing through ICE magazine at the Tower Records Outlet during my lunch break today, and it mentions that jangly Aussie psych-pop alterna-rockers The Church are going to be releasing an album of covers later this month. Included in the track listing is a version of "Silver Machine". Personally, I think that band would be better-suited to doing a more acoustic-y number ("Mirror of Illusion", "We Took the Wrong Step Years Ago" and "Space Is Deep" come to mind immediately), but it should be interesting to hear. I think the release date was listed as August 24th. So Paul, would this be the first Hawkwind cover to be released on album by an Australian band? -Doug ceres at sirius.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Aug 5 18:46:07 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:46:07 EDT Subject: BOC: Concert bills Message-ID: In a message dated 8/5/99 10:55:32 AM, hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK writes: <<> ====it aint like i wanna bat this question around, but why would anyone have > been "gawping" at bob geldof way back in 1975? Good question. He had just formed the Boomtown Rats, but I don't think that I would have known that. I guess that in those days he was just a well-known rock journalist. BOC were definitely headlining, and Motorhead were the support act. ========== the odd thing about 4 different motorhead bio sources i've discussed w/friends of late is that they all mention them opening for BOC on real early gigs, a bit later in 75, but the headliner specific to 7/20/75 ==their initial gig == isnt specified in any of these sources. also, andy dunkley was dj/mc at the 7/20/75 gig...hawkwind was touring then and he tended to be their dj/mc...did he do work on the side in mid-tour? maybe. but i'm not budging, sorry, until i get hard copy. motorhead indeed coulda opened for BOC on several gigs in '75..their 2nd/ 3rd /4th/ gig, etc. but we've been discussing the very first, 7/20/75, and i say they opened for hawkwind. four different bio sources dont say they DIDNT. dunno about this geldof stuff either, but that would be another story. maybe we should agree to disagree. yours in obstinancy (grin) "<>" From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Thu Aug 5 20:10:47 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:10:47 -0400 Subject: BOC: VH1's Where are they now? In-Reply-To: <199908051504.LAA25369@issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us>; from Andrew A. Apold on Thu, Aug 05, 1999 at 11:04:10AM -0400 Message-ID: On Thu, Aug 05, 1999 at 11:04:10AM -0400, Andrew A. Apold wrote: > >It's really galling that they didn't mention Al or Joe, because it's > >normal for a "Where are they now?" to feature a short segment on what > >*all* the original band members are currently doing, and what Al and > >Joe have been doing is *still writing and performing*. And I'm sure > >that a mention on VH1 would have exposed the Brain Surgeons and the X > >Brothers to several hundred thousand potential fans. > > > >Argh. Nice research, VH1. > > Well, Al did mention he didn't have much regard for those "where > are they now" programs... Well, most of them are about former musicians since turned to grape farming or selling healing crystals. I think it's a little different when we're talking about someone who's *still writing and performing new music*, don't you? :-) Steve swann at plutonia.com From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Thu Aug 5 20:17:02 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:17:02 -0400 Subject: New Remasters better sound? In-Reply-To: <199908051603.RAA20703@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>; from M Holmes on Thu, Aug 05, 1999 at 05:03:34PM +0100 Message-ID: On Thu, Aug 05, 1999 at 05:03:34PM +0100, M Holmes wrote: > In Andy Garibaldi's latest list he comments that the six new remasterd > Hawkwind albums have much better sound. Does anyone concur with this? I would have. Except that I've since heard them on a (much) better stereo system, and I believe that I've changed my mind about them. Basically, the remasters have exchanged musical "punch" for greater smoothness. In other words, they've filed off the burrs, and taken some of the music with it. I've actually put my EMI cds in storage and put my One Way copies back in the CD rack. The One Way's have more "oomph"; the guitar sound has more attack. > I dunno whether to blow the Federation Credits on these or not. I've got > more than enough copies of most albums and I dislike these card covers > because they're hard to store and easy to damage. If there's any doubt at all, don't bother. That said, if you were going to get any at all, I believe that _HotMG_ is the only one that could really be considered "improved" by the change. Steve swann at plutonia.com From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Thu Aug 5 20:24:36 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 20:24:36 -0400 Subject: BOC: VH1's Where are they now? In-Reply-To: <199908051702.MAA20078@chestburster.urbana.css.mot.com>; from Matthew Braun on Thu, Aug 05, 1999 at 12:02:23PM -0500 Message-ID: On Thu, Aug 05, 1999 at 12:02:23PM -0500, Matthew Braun wrote: > Stephen Swann writes: > >their "Where are they now?" series, they did a short segment on 3OC, > >still touring, blah blah blah... managing never *once* to mention Al, > >Joe, The Brain Surgeons, The X Brothers, or even Soft White [...] > Now you weren't paying attention to earlier aspersions cast upon this > appearance when it was announced, and still sight unseen, were ya Steve? :-) Errrr... until the last few days, I was as far behind in BOC-L mail as I've ever been. :) > This is what I figured they'd do. The show drives me up the wall > because of this. They did the same thing for "Wall Of Voodoo", > completely IGNORING the lead singer (Stan Ridgeway, who is still out > there making decent albums) and two other members, and instead focused > on one of the guitarists who's splits his time between soundtracks for > porno films and a leather/fetish shop. Ok, I'm convinced. Any show that could do a feature on Wall of Voodoo and not mention Stan Ridgeway is just completely out to lunch. I was thinking of writing them a (polite) note letting them know about Al and the Brain Surgeons. You know, something along the lines of "he and Joe wrote the majority of the music on the first three critically acclaimed BOC albums, and by the way did they know that he was still writing and performing original rock and roll...?". Steve From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Aug 5 22:58:49 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 22:58:49 -0400 Subject: HW: Re: New Remasters better sound? In-Reply-To: <19990805201702.B18183@plutonia.com> Message-ID: Steve writes: => On Thu, Aug 05, 1999 at 05:03:34PM +0100, M Holmes wrote: => > In Andy Garibaldi's latest list he comments that the six new remasterd => > Hawkwind albums have much better sound. Does anyone concur with this? => => I would have. Except that I've since heard them on a (much) better => stereo system, and I believe that I've changed my mind about them. => => Basically, the remasters have exchanged musical "punch" for greater => smoothness. In other words, they've filed off the burrs, and taken => some of the music with it. Wait a minute, I'm confused. Mike was talking about "the *six* new remastered Hawkwind albums," and since he undoubtedly has the *five* EMI remasters, surely he is talking about something else? So, Mike, what are the titles of the six new remasters? (And who is doing them?) Cheers, Paul. NP: Gov't Mule, The 8x10, Baltimore, MD, 7/30/97 (acoustic set) From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Aug 5 23:19:57 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 23:19:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: clearing out old albums In-Reply-To: <199908051457.PAA03533@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, bart wondered: => > => Electric Wizard - _Electric Wizard_ => => What do these guys sound like, out of curiosity ? I've seen CDs by them => (including a double) - wondered if they were sabbath clones or sub par doom => merchants /stoner / sludge whatever. I bought the double CD reissue of _Come My Fanatics_/_Electric Wizard_ a day or so ago. They are pretty much a stoner/sludge/doom/Sabbath-ish outfit. The charm and appeal of their music is, IMHO, that it is crushingly heavy. Wall of sound doesn't begin to describe it. They remind me of Sleep, only better. I cannot unreservedly recommend them, because, like many bands of that ilk, they play too slowly that it starts to become annoying. Combine that with a limited selection of riffs, and you have to decide whether to be charitable and call the result "relentless" or be brutal and dub it "monotonous." But I can find such "propulsive" simplicity endearing, especially under the right circumstances. As a bonus, there are moments of Space Ritual-era delay-effect spaciness to be found, too, which is rather refreshing. But, as is often the case, the lyrics throughout are throwaway, and probably only made sense when the author was hitting the bong really hard whilst penning them. I don't think this helps you much, does it? :-) Cheers, Paul. NP: Gov't Mule, The 8x10, Baltimore, MD, 7/30/97 (electric set) From tclark at PETRONET.NET Thu Aug 5 23:53:43 1999 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 22:53:43 -0500 Subject: OFF: dialect posts Message-ID: Thank you. The end. "Sen. Volstead" wrote: > Tom Clark wrote: > > > Wow.....again.... > > > > I sure did not intend for the previous discussion to continue futher in > > this fashion...now, it really is turning into something ugly....the > > Onion is quite funny, but the ebonics thing ought to be left alone and > > my posting taken as intended, and not any more than that. > > > > Sorry for bringing it up to begin with..... > > A reference to the Onion should only bring joy and levity to such a draining > string of messages. It seems everything must be brutally judged and labelled > as racist (when it is clearly not in this case), out of fear of offending > someone otherwise. This only draws more attention to this 'ugly' subject and > poisons any attempt to get off of it with good humor. Not a single person on > this list has racist intentions in anything they post, and this should be > obvious. From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Aug 6 03:26:34 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 08:26:34 +0100 Subject: New Remasters better sound? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > So, Mike, what are the titles of the six new remasters? (And who is > doing them?) > I'll answer this - it's Live Seventy-Nine, Levitation, Xenon Codex, Space Bandits, Palace Springs and It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous. Out on Castle/Essential. All part of Doug's ongoing campaign to get the back catalogue under control! --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Aug 6 04:23:38 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 09:23:38 +0100 Subject: OFF: Terrastock III, London Message-ID: So is anyone else going to this? August 27-29? Man, Bevis Frond, Sun Dial, Silver Apples, Bardo Pond, Spacious Mind, Windy & Carl etc etc? http://www.terrascope.org/t3.html --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Fri Aug 6 04:33:35 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 09:33:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: Terrastock III, London In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 06 Aug 1999 09:23:38 BST." Message-ID: > So is anyone else going to this? August 27-29? Man, Bevis Frond, Sun Dial, > Silver Apples, Bardo Pond, Spacious Mind, Windy & Carl etc etc? > > http://www.terrascope.org/t3.html Dunno about the whole weekend, but maybe the sunday. On the saturday, there's a band called Sun Dial. Is this the same as Sundial ( that bloke Ramon's outfit) ? Tim From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Fri Aug 6 07:27:50 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 21:27:50 +1000 Subject: HW: OFF: another Silver Machine Message-ID: On 5 Aug 99, at 15:43, Doug Pearson wrote: > ... was browsing through ICE magazine at the Tower Records Outlet during my > lunch break today, and it mentions that jangly Aussie psych-pop > alterna-rockers The Church are going to be releasing an album of covers > later this month. Included in the track listing is a version of "Silver > Machine". I am absolutely stunned by this! I'd heard that the Church were releasing a cover album, but until now I had no intention of buying it!!! > So Paul, would this be the first Hawkwind cover to be released on album by > an Australian band? AFAIK - yes! -- PO Box 378 Paul Ward Ashburton http://sonique.net VIC 3147 (time permitting) Mob:0418 524744 sonique at sonique.net From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Aug 6 08:10:46 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:10:46 +0100 Subject: The famed 'other list' In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Sorry to take so long with this - Larry asked... > <)>> > ==== > what's up w/this? should i go there and cause trouble there too? ^_~ > > "<>" Well, it's very high-volume and populated by some bands, some fans and a lot of morons, and signal-to-noise is very low. It does produce some useful info, for example the soundman for Orange Goblin and Man's Ruin in the UK is on it, and Meteorcity and Man's Ruin both post to it, but nothing I think that you couldn't get by private mail once you'd been on a couple of weeks so you knew whom to mail. But it's a laugh some of the time and I allow myself more latitude flaming the morons than in other fora (e.g. BOC-L where there aren't any to flame), so I get more fun out of it than some... In terms of mail volume and so forth though, possibly more sensible just to know someone who's on it. Yours, Jon P.S. info to be found at From boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK Fri Aug 6 08:15:26 1999 From: boclist at HWIND.GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:15:26 +0100 Subject: HW: Apologies for multi mail Message-ID: Sorry about all the mails. I did not realise that it could take days to come through. I just kept trying!!!!!!!!!! Kris From adrian.brevard at EDS.COM Fri Aug 6 09:28:11 1999 From: adrian.brevard at EDS.COM (Brevard, Adrian R) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 09:28:11 -0400 Subject: BOC: VH1 Message-ID: Well of course I missed it... Did someone say Alan Lanier got the majority of camera time? Are you kidding me? Since when did Alan become the bands spokesperson? Was this an attempt to disparge 70's rockers..."look kiddes, this is what 70's stone age band guys look like today." No mention of HF...no mention of what Al and Joe are doing...the whole theme is to say "can you believe these guys are still alive?" Brain Surgeons better off not being mentioned on this show if ya ask me. BTW is there any confirmation on what tour KBFH is using for the live disc? Any surprises on it? GitR <--------(Ghost in the Ruins) NP - On Your Feet or On Your Knees From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Fri Aug 6 10:04:37 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 23:04:37 +0900 Subject: HW: Help Message-ID: And me, but my own posts are not showing up. I'm on a different list that has an option not to send you your own posts, have we had a default changed on BOC-L? dave Clemens & Associates wrote: > Kris wrote: > Why are my messages not being posted? > They do not come back, they appear in my sent box, but they do not appear > anywhere......or do they??? > Trying to post info about Eclipse party. Can I send to someone else to > post? > Kris > > They came through for me....all four times. > > The other Mark L. > clemens at trail.com -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 6 10:10:55 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:10:55 +0100 Subject: HW: OFF: another Silver Machine In-Reply-To: Doug Pearson's message of Thu, 5 Aug 1999 15:43:49 -0700 Message-ID: Doug Pearson writes: > ... was browsing through ICE magazine at the Tower Records Outlet during my > lunch break today, and it mentions that jangly Aussie psych-pop > alterna-rockers The Church are going to be releasing an album of covers > later this month. Included in the track listing is a version of "Silver > Machine". Jeese. I remember seeing them way back in 1985 or thereabouts. Was that the band that had a member called "Mike Holmes" or was that IQ? > -Doug FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 6 10:13:19 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:13:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: New Remasters better sound? In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Thu, 5 Aug 1999 22:58:49 -0400 Message-ID: Paul Mather writes: > Steve writes: > > => On Thu, Aug 05, 1999 at 05:03:34PM +0100, M Holmes wrote: > => > In Andy Garibaldi's latest list he comments that the six new remasterd > => > Hawkwind albums have much better sound. Does anyone concur with this? > => > => I would have. Except that I've since heard them on a (much) better > => stereo system, and I believe that I've changed my mind about them. > => > => Basically, the remasters have exchanged musical "punch" for greater > => smoothness. In other words, they've filed off the burrs, and taken > => some of the music with it. > > Wait a minute, I'm confused. Mike was talking about "the *six* new > remastered Hawkwind albums," and since he undoubtedly has the *five* EMI > remasters, surely he is talking about something else? > > So, Mike, what are the titles of the six new remasters? (And who is > doing them?) It's EMI I believe. TistheBis, Xenon Codex, Live '79, Levitation and errrr.... FoFP From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Fri Aug 6 10:13:33 1999 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:13:33 +0100 Subject: HW: HAWKWIND gig in Cornwall next Wednesday Message-ID: I be going :) Helluva long drive from Edinburgh though...argh! What a combination though... two cosmic occurrences on the same day! cheers, Dave >Hi Folks > >Who is going to the HAWKWIND gig in Cornwall next Wednesday (11.08.199) ? > >I am curious. > >It will be an exceptional gig. I am very sure! > > >cheers >Bernhard > > From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Fri Aug 6 06:56:35 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 10:56:35 +0000 Subject: BOC: VH1's Where are they now? Message-ID: Okay, my impression of "Where Are They Now": Sure, the purist in me wants to rip it apart. But I figure the exposure BOC got was more than I'd ever expect from a major cable channel so what the hell. The fact that they teased BOC going into almost every commercial break was pretty cool. I mean, the segment was lacking, but at least they treated it like one of the highlights of the show. Absolutely no mention of Heaven Forbid was atrocious. But at the very least, they DID say a new studio album was coming in 2000. And how about that Allen? What a chatterbox! Any exposure is good exposure, and I hope it helps these guys out. -- Nick From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Fri Aug 6 11:08:31 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:08:31 -0400 Subject: BOC: VH1 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Ghost said: >Did someone say Alan Lanier got the majority of camera time? Are you >kidding me? Since when did Alan become the bands spokesperson? Allen talked a lot. Buck didn't speak at all! He just sat there looking cool. Let's hope Allen's coming forward on VH1 leads to some songwriting credits on the new album. >Was this an >attempt to disparge 70's rockers..."look kiddes, this is what 70's stone age >band guys look like today." Ha! :-) That may have more truth to it than I'd like to admit. Brian From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Aug 6 11:30:03 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:30:03 EDT Subject: BOC: VH1's Where are they now? In-Reply-To: <199908061439.KAA25917@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: >> From: "" > Okay, my impression of "Where Are They Now": > > Sure, the purist in me wants to rip it apart. But I figure the > exposure BOC got was more than I'd ever expect from a major cable > channel so what the hell. Exactly right! > > The fact that they teased BOC going into almost every commercial > break was pretty cool. I mean, the segment was lacking, but at least > they treated it like one of the highlights of the show. Well, now, isnt DFtR the biggest song from any of the bands in the show? I guess you could argue that Bad Co. had bigger songs, but certainly nothing of the quality of Reaper... > > Absolutely no mention of Heaven Forbid was atrocious. But at the very > least, they DID say a new studio album was coming in 2000. > > And how about that Allen? What a chatterbox! > > Any exposure is good exposure, and I hope it helps these guys out. > Nick hits it right on the head here. I'm pretty happy with the WATN feature. Yeah it's too short, yeah they don't talk about Al and Joe, yeah they don't talk about HF...BUT at least BOC got positive mention on a program that goes all over the world. At this point ANY presence by BOC on national TV is a good thing. If you analyze any of the segments on the other groups, they are woefully inadequate--it isn't like BOC was slighted at the expense of the other bands. And isn't it great to see 3OC on TV big as life? theo From greatsunjester at YAHOO.COM Fri Aug 6 11:31:48 1999 From: greatsunjester at YAHOO.COM (Darnell Buffington) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 08:31:48 -0700 Subject: BOC: VH1's Where are they now? Message-ID: --- "" wrote: > Any exposure is good exposure, and I hope it helps > these guys out. > -- Nick ------------- Good point, Nick. I agree. GSJ _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Fri Aug 6 11:07:49 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:07:49 +0100 Subject: HW: Spotted In-Reply-To: <199908060901.FAA16151@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Just been shopping, popped into HMV coz I was feeling rich :) They have two copies of Dawn of Hawkwind on the rack 14:99 UKP each number 138 and 3-- Anybody want me to pick em up ? Meanwhile, lunch over, work on. PS. It's Martyns birthday soon so Dr Hasbeen will be playing at The Victoria, Derby on Fri 20th, Bones is gonna spin some discs, our ex-lead player Daz is gonna do some acoustic stuff and more is planned. The good news is IT'sSFREE. See ya there Andy ;-) Maybe :) S'all for now Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Aug 6 12:21:02 1999 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trevor thoms) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 09:21:02 PDT Subject: Inner City Unit Cassettes Message-ID: I'm resending this list of ICU tapes because not everyone checks their E-Mail every day. I know that they are of particular interest to the Hawkwind discussion group. So here we go again: I wonder if anyone still hasn't got the new Judgement Recs tape list. They are all made by Judge Trev himself (me), and represent excellent value for money. Here it is: Pass-Out ICU Punkadelic ICU The Maximum effect ICU Maiden Voyage Iron Maiden (featuring me, circa 1970) Now You Know The Score ICU (without Nik) all at ?3.99 +p&p (on chrome cassette) Now You Know The Score C.D. ICU ?9.99 + p&p Cheques/P.O.s/hidden cash to: T Thoms, 48 Barbauld Rd, London, N16 OST. p&p add: U.K. 50p - Europe ?1 - U.S.A. ?1.20 - rest of world ?2 per extra item 10p 30p 60p 70p respectively or equivalent currency All buyers will be informed of future I.C.U. activity. How's that for cottage industry. Love, Judge Trev ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From erics at TELEPRES.COM Fri Aug 6 12:46:23 1999 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:46:23 -0400 Subject: OFF: Terrastock III, London In-Reply-To: from "Andy Gilham" at Aug 6, 99 09:23:38 am Message-ID: Andy Gilham wrote: > So is anyone else going to this? August 27-29? Man, Bevis Frond, Sun Dial, > Silver Apples, Bardo Pond, Spacious Mind, Windy & Carl etc etc? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Simeon's back in shape to be playing? Cool! (Last I'd heard the prognosis wasn't good.) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / I'm going to change it, but it's going to take some time. - Linus Torvalds, on Windows's market leadership From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Fri Aug 6 13:11:20 1999 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff and Pam Wheaton) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 11:11:20 -0600 Subject: HW: Spotted Message-ID: I NEED that. It'll be a couple of dayz before I can get the $$ up, but my local cd store can't get it for me:( :( Pam Mark Lee wrote: > Just been shopping, popped into HMV coz I was feeling rich :) > > They have two copies of Dawn of Hawkwind on the rack 14:99 UKP > each number 138 and 3-- > > Anybody want me to pick em up ? > > Meanwhile, lunch over, work on. > > PS. It's Martyns birthday soon so Dr Hasbeen will be playing > at The Victoria, Derby on Fri 20th, Bones is gonna spin some > discs, our ex-lead player Daz is gonna do some acoustic stuff > and more is planned. The good news is IT'sSFREE. > > See ya there Andy ;-) Maybe :) > > S'all for now > > Mark. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please reply to mark at esparto.org > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Aug 6 12:47:18 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:47:18 -0400 Subject: HW: Spotted Message-ID: Pam wrote on "Dawn of Hawkwind"... >I NEED that. It'll be a couple of dayz before I can get the $$ up, but >my local cd store can't get it for me:( :( If anyone's looking for a US-based source online...let me again suggest www.cdquest.com (since Stephan Hawkman isn't carrying it, right?). They seem to have both the ltd ed. with book (for about $18) and what I guess is a simple jewel boxed one (for about $13). They've also got other good deals on cool discs, like Liquid Sound Company's "Exploring the Psychedelic" for $10 and change, and Orange Goblin's "Frequencies from Planet 10" for $13 and change. And they have quick service. Keith H. (FAA) From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Aug 6 14:26:21 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 14:26:21 -0400 Subject: HW: Spotted In-Reply-To: <199908061801.OAA13298@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Keith Henderson wrote: => Pam wrote on "Dawn of Hawkwind"... => => >I NEED that. It'll be a couple of dayz before I can get the $$ up, but => >my local cd store can't get it for me:( :( => => If anyone's looking for a US-based source online...let me again suggest => www.cdquest.com (since Stephan Hawkman isn't carrying it, right?). They => seem to have both the ltd ed. with book (for about $18) and what I guess is => a simple jewel boxed one (for about $13). And also don't forget The Artist Shop, which is where I got mine (for ~$16 w/book). Its URL is http://www.artist-shop.com/, and you can submit an order online. Cheers, Paul. NP: Jazz Is Dead, _Laughing Water_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Aug 6 14:42:08 1999 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 13:42:08 -0500 Subject: HW: Spotted Message-ID: Paul Mather wrote: > > On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Keith Henderson wrote: > > => Pam wrote on "Dawn of Hawkwind"... > => > => >I NEED that. It'll be a couple of dayz before I can get the $$ up, but > => >my local cd store can't get it for me:( :( > => > => If anyone's looking for a US-based source online...let me again suggest > => www.cdquest.com (since Stephan Hawkman isn't carrying it, right?). They > => seem to have both the ltd ed. with book (for about $18) and what I guess is > => a simple jewel boxed one (for about $13). > > And also don't forget The Artist Shop, which is where I got mine (for > ~$16 w/book). Its URL is http://www.artist-shop.com/, and you can > submit an order online. Did that price include shipping? Just ordered it at CDNow for a grand total of $15.98 including shipping. This import version better include the book! ;-) Coupons at http://finditnow.8m.com The coupons along with CDNow's sale until 11AM ET on Aug 10th can turn out to be a decent deal. Karen From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Aug 6 15:20:13 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:20:13 -0700 Subject: OFF: Primordial Undermind Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Aug 1999 22:29:14 -0400, Paul Mather queried: >I spotted a CD in the used racks by The Primordial Undermind today. It >was called (if memory serves) _Yet More Wonders of the Invisible World_. >I seem to recall them mentioned on BOC-L recently. Is this CD worth >picking up??? Hi Paul, that's the first Primordial Undermind album (number two is 'You And Me And The Continuum', and number three is 'Universe I've Got', due out next month). I'd recommend picking it up if you're already familiar with the Crystalized Movements, the band that main Underminder Eric Arn was in before forming his own band (members of the Crystalized Movements later went on to be in Vermonster, Magic Hour [w/Damon & Naomi ex-Galaxie 500], and currently Major Stars). It's good guitar psych, both driving and droning; not as poppy as much of the Bevis Frond stuff, not as wild/excessive as Japanese psych like Fushitsusha or High Rise. And recorded/released well before I joined the band, so I can comment on it somewhat objectively :^). For information on the upcoming Primordial Undermind album (which should be out before the tour), head over to: http://www.cameraobscura.com.au/cam032.htm and take a look at the photo of my ugly mug. Most of the tour dates are now finalized, although I'll probably post them again in the first week of September, right before we head out. I would *highly* recommend the east coast shows to everyone on the list, especially for Overhang Party, who will be have psychedelic master guitarist Michio Kurihara in the band. His expressive and melodic leads, though most heavily influenced by John Cippolina, should appeal to B?C fans as well (since that band has one of the most expressive and melodic lead guitarists I've ever heard...). Primordial Undermind Tour '99 Sun 9/12 San Francisco Bottom of the Hill (w/Tribes of Cro) Tues 9/14 Salt Lake City ? Weds 9/15 Iowa City ? + Salamander (Minneapolis): Thurs 9/16 Minneapolis 400 Bar + Salamander, Overhang Party (Japan): Fri 9/17 Pittsburgh Stevenson Theater Sat 9/18 Philadelphia Khyber Pass (Insidious Spectacle Fest) Sun 9/19 NYC a Bronx loft Mon 9/20 Somerville Abbey Lounge (w/Major Stars?) Tues 9/21 Jamaica Plain Milky Way Weds 9/22 Easthampton Flywheel Collective Thurs 9/23 Albany The Loft Fri 9/24 Rochester Bug Jar Sat 9/25 Detroit Detroit Contemporary Gallery Sun 9/26 Cleveland Speak in Tongues (w/Fuzzhead?) Mon 9/27 Chicago Empty Bottle Tues 9/28 Madison ? If any of you make it to one of these shows, be sure to say "hi" to the guy with the violin (that's me!). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Aug 6 15:23:27 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:23:27 EDT Subject: HW: Spotted/CDNOW Message-ID: In a message dated 99-08-06 14:43:28 EDT, you write: << http://finditnow.8m.com >> Thanks for this link, Karen. That list that has all the different CDNow coupons, can those be used once each by the same person? BTW, I was searching for the new Anubian Lights CD and they don't have it but under Various came a Cleo title called UIltimate Space Rock for $19.99. This might be a worthy purchase for some here--go to the above link, get the $10 off coupon and for about $15 total you would be receiving the Area 51 double-disc comp, Farflung's So Many Minds... and Pressurehed's Sudden Vertigo all in one package. Chuck From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Aug 6 15:27:56 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:27:56 -0400 Subject: HW: Spotted In-Reply-To: <37AB2C80.713C39DD@execpc.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Aug 1999, Karen Kusic wrote: => > And also don't forget The Artist Shop, which is where I got mine (for => > ~$16 w/book). Its URL is http://www.artist-shop.com/, and you can => > submit an order online. => => Did that price include shipping? No, I don't believe so. But, I took the opportunity to fill the holes in my Brain Surgeons collection at the same time to mitigate the shipping costs. :-) => Just ordered it at CDNow for a grand total of $15.98 including => shipping. This import version better include the book! ;-) Well, I was sure to note that I only wanted the version with the book on my order, and I'd exchanged e-mail with Gary, who runs The Artist Shop (and who is also on this list), verifying he was selling the ltd. ed. version with book. => Coupons at http://finditnow.8m.com => => The coupons along with CDNow's sale until 11AM ET on Aug 10th can turn => out to be a decent deal. Sounds like a good deal, there! Cheers, Paul. NP: Electric Wizard, _Come My Fanatics...._ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Aug 6 16:29:45 1999 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 21:29:45 +0100 Subject: HW: Apologies for multi mail Message-ID: XXX wrote: > > Sorry about all the mails. I did not realise that it could take days to > come through. I just kept trying!!!!!!!!!! > Kris Don't worry - just occasionally this whole list goes into hibernation. I always blame it on the weather myself but I'm sure there are much more sensible reasons that technical folk know more about than I do. However it invariably happens just after one has posted some really interesting, vital and essential piece of information to the list and annoyingly there's no way of realising it's done this until you suddenly realise that no mail has arrived for an entire day. Then i normally give it another day to wake up again before the withdrawal symptoms really start to kick in and the irresistible urge to send a test message or several becomes too strong to ignore followed by utter despondency when no response comes back. Eventually the ether gets itself unglued and listerve produces a veritable tidal wave of messages - enough to satisfy any net-addict for at least a full day! jill -- ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Aug 6 16:35:01 1999 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 21:35:01 +0100 Subject: HW: Eclipse weather forecast Message-ID: I've just been watching the longish range forecast. This weekend is going to be very wet, windy and generally rather horrible in the West Country but with a definite clearance around Tuesday with Wednesday looking extremely promising. It may yet happen!!! cheers jill -- ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Fri Aug 6 17:27:06 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:27:06 -0400 Subject: OFF: Primordial Undermind In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990806122013.008cfa60@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: Doug wrote: > Primordial Undermind Tour '99 >Fri 9/24 Rochester Bug Jar >If any of you make it to one of these shows, be sure to say "hi" to the guy >with the violin (that's me!). See you there! Brian From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Aug 6 17:59:49 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:59:49 EDT Subject: OFF: Primordial Undermind Message-ID: In a message dated 8/6/99 5:27:03 PM, bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET channels: <with the violin (that's me!). >> the guy mit der violin will also be making an appearance at STRANGE DAZE 99 in the company of certain others, incl. a couple BOC-L denizens, who'll be playing there.... hmmm... what was their name, anyway... heh "<>" From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Aug 6 18:20:58 1999 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:20:58 -0500 Subject: HW: Spotted/CDNOW Message-ID: Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > > In a message dated 99-08-06 14:43:28 EDT, you write: > > << http://finditnow.8m.com >> > > Thanks for this link, Karen. That list that has all the different CDNow > coupons, can those be used once each by the same person? You betcha as we say here in Wisconsin. I never buy anything at CDNow without using one of those coupons. Think you can only use each one once and only one per order but when they're also having a sale, it usually adds up to a nice savings. > > BTW, I was searching for the new Anubian Lights CD and they don't have it but > under Various came a Cleo title called UIltimate Space Rock for $19.99. This > might be a worthy purchase for some here--go to the above link, get the $10 > off coupon and for about $15 total you would be receiving the Area 51 > double-disc comp, Farflung's So Many Minds... and Pressurehed's Sudden > Vertigo all in one package. Chuck Good find! Hey! If you scroll down a bit, it's actually a *4* disc set! I bought it too. Only $12.98 with shipping! Incredible. Plus, you also get Fast Forward points that add up to free stuff in time. Way to go Chuck! Karen From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Aug 6 18:59:59 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 23:59:59 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: New Remasters better sound? In-Reply-To: <199908061413.PAA10101@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In message <199908061413.PAA10101 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >It's EMI I believe. TistheBis, Xenon Codex, Live '79, Levitation and >errrr.... > >FoFP Space Bandits and Palace Springs, but like most of us, I've got all of these on vinyl and disk at least once, and although the packaging is nice the question above remains unanswered..... -- Jon From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Fri Aug 6 20:15:02 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:15:02 -0500 Subject: HW: Spotted Message-ID: >If anyone's looking for a US-based source online...let me again suggest >www.cdquest.com (since Stephan Hawkman isn't carrying it, right?). They >seem to have both the ltd ed. with book (for about $18) and what I guess is >a simple jewel boxed one (for about $13). Hey there folks, No I'm not officially carrying it but I do have 2 copies of the Book+CD I'll sell for $16...Serial Numbers 1023 and 1024. I'm looking for a copy that has the lowest possible serial number, that's why I was interested in that copy serial number 137 Has anyone actually seen the Jewel Case version yet??? From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Fri Aug 6 20:55:44 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Fri, 6 Aug 1999 19:55:44 -0500 Subject: HW: Re: New Remasters better sound? Message-ID: >> => On Thu, Aug 05, 1999 at 05:03:34PM +0100, M Holmes wrote: >> => > In Andy Garibaldi's latest list he comments that the six new remasterd >> => > Hawkwind albums have much better sound. Does anyone concur with this? >> => >> => I would have. Except that I've since heard them on a (much) better >> => stereo system, and I believe that I've changed my mind about them. >> => >> => Basically, the remasters have exchanged musical "punch" for greater >> => smoothness. In other words, they've filed off the burrs, and taken >> => some of the music with it. >> >> Wait a minute, I'm confused. Mike was talking about "the *six* new >> remastered Hawkwind albums," and since he undoubtedly has the *five* EMI >> remasters, surely he is talking about something else? >> >> So, Mike, what are the titles of the six new remasters? (And who is >> doing them?) > >It's EMI I believe. TistheBis, Xenon Codex, Live '79, Levitation and >errrr.... Hawkman here: OK, well I just got out the old RoadRacer, Castle and New Castle "Remaster" of Palace Springs. I can't tell any difference in any of them. They all sound identical. And it's kinda funny how the New Castle and Old Castle track lenghts are EXACTLY the same, second for second. Personally I don't think they did anything but repackage instead of remaster. (Remastered a different way to get more money from us "Kollectors" who have to have one of everything) But they are kinda packaged cool. Although I don't like digipaks because they wear like albums do. Jewel Case issues at least protect the artwork, and you can make them new again by putting them in a new jewel case. Also, I think it's kinda neat how when you line up all 6 "remasters" (?) in Part Number order, it spells out HAWKWIND along the tops of the digipak spines. Very creative....Mr. Douglas. I checked the sound quality of this comparison on my 5600 watt EXTREMELY Hi-Fidelity stereo, where you can see on my web-site Hawkman Music. Just click on the Upper Left Hand HAWKMAN logo on the front page, and that will link you to 3 personal photos I put on there. www.intplsrv.net/hawkman or go directly to the page... www.intplsrv.net/hawkman/me.html .....Back in the box.... Hawkman From micci at SCI.FI Sat Aug 7 09:13:42 1999 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 16:13:42 +0300 Subject: Hawkwind Bios Message-ID: Hi! >Nik's 58 years old. and nik?s 1 year older than Dave. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Aug 7 13:30:40 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 13:30:40 EDT Subject: HW: Spotted/CDNOW Message-ID: In a message dated 99-08-06 18:21:59 EDT, you write: << Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > > In a message dated 99-08-06 14:43:28 EDT, you write: > > << http://finditnow.8m.com >> > > Thanks for this link, Karen. That list that has all the different CDNow > coupons, can those be used once each by the same person? You betcha as we say here in Wisconsin. I never buy anything at CDNow without using one of those coupons. ---Same here. Think you can only use each one once and only one per order but when they're also having a sale, it usually adds up to a nice savings. ---Damn right. I've done alright w/them. > > BTW, I was searching for the new Anubian Lights CD and they don't have it but > under Various came a Cleo title called UIltimate Space Rock for $19.99. This > might be a worthy purchase for some here--go to the above link, get the $10 > off coupon and for about $15 total you would be receiving the Area 51 > double-disc comp, Farflung's So Many Minds... and Pressurehed's Sudden > Vertigo all in one package. Chuck Good find! Hey! If you scroll down a bit, it's actually a *4* disc set! --Yeah, the double Area 51 + Farflung + P-hed = 4 CDs. :) I bought it too. Only $12.98 with shipping! Incredible. Plus, you also get Fast Forward points that add up to free stuff in time. ---The Pressurehed album alone is worth 13 bucks. Way to go Chuck! Karen >> ---Well, I'm gonna go use up the rest of those coupons. Used the first to order Faust's "Tapes". Fun, fun... Chuck From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Aug 7 19:09:43 1999 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trevor thoms) Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 16:09:43 PDT Subject: INNER CITY UNIT lift Message-ID: I Wonder if anyone wants to go to the Moonshdow Rising eclipse fest. I have spare passes, could you give us a lift from London? Love, Judge Trev ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Aug 7 19:19:50 1999 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trevor thoms) Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 16:19:50 PDT Subject: INNER CITY UNIT lift 2 Message-ID: On second thoughts, how about a lift to the Hawk eclipse fest , could you give Lori and me a ride from London? Love, Judge Trev ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Sun Aug 8 07:21:57 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 21:21:57 +1000 Subject: HW/OFF: LLOYD LANGTON GROUP GIG- general info Message-ID: Hi folks, Just got the following from Marion Lloyd-Langton regarding upcoming HLL gigs Soniqu? (PS: Anyone wanting a copy of the Word file with Gig details mail me privately) ----- Original Message ----- From: lloydlangton To: Paul Ward Sent: Sunday, August 08, 1999 8:46 AM Subject: LLOYD LANGTON GROUP GIG HUW HAS FINISHED HIS CD AND THEY ARE DOING AN IMPROMPTU GIG AT GREYHOUND HENDON IN HENDON - TEL: 0181 203 1300 - TO CELEBRATE 5 MONTHS OF SLOG - FRIDAY 20TH AUGUST- JOHN CLARK THE ORIGINAL DRUMMER HAS REJOINED AND IS PLAYING BETTER THAN EVER. THEY ARE PLANNING A 20-DATE TOUR OF UK IN NOVEMBER AND I WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED - ALSO HUW'S WEB SITE WILL BE FINISHED OVER NEXT 2-3 WEEKS AND ALLEGRO WILL BE ADVERTISING NEW CD WHICH WILL BE AVAILABLE (SEPTEMBER OR OCTOBER AT VERY LATEST). WE WANT IT OUT BEFORE TOUR. I WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED HUW IS ALSO HEADLINING A FESTIVAL IN OXFORD FOR RESTORE (MENTAL HEALTH CHARITY) FOLLOWING DATE 21ST AUGUST - AFTERNOON GIG ON MAIN STAGE 4 PM) - SEE ATTACHED WORD FILE KINDEST REGARDS MARION -- PO Box 378 Paul Ward Ashburton http://sonique.net VIC 3147 (time permitting) Mob:0418 524744 sonique at sonique.net From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sun Aug 8 10:23:51 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 15:23:51 +0100 Subject: OFF: Spocks Beard European Tour Message-ID: Spock's Beard Day For Night European Tour 12.09.1999 Rockfabrik - Augsburg, Germany 13.09.1999 Outpost - G?ttingen, Germany 14.09.1999 Zeche - Bochum, Germany 15.09.1999 Columbia Fritz - Berlin, Germany 16.09.1999 Hirsch - N?rnberg, Germany 17.09.1999 Markthalle - Hamburg, Germany 18.09.1999 Hafenbahn - Offenbach, Germany 19.09.1999 Rockfabrik - Ludwigsburg, Germany 21.09.1999 Rockhouse - Salzburg, Austria 22.09.1999 Konzertfabrik Z7 - Pratteln, Switzerland 23.09.1999 Babylonia - Biella, Italy 24.09.1999 Thelonius - Bordeaux, France 25.09.1999 Le Divan Du Monde - Paris, France 26.09.1999 Spirit Of 66 - Verviers, Belgium 27.09.1999 Paradiso - Amsterdam, Holland 28.09.1999 013 - Tilburg, Holland 29.09.1999 Metropool - Hengelo, Holland 01.10.1999 Oakwood Centre - Rotherham, UK 02.10.1999 LA2 - London, UK Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "There's no walls in music. It's like water; there's currents." --Corey Harris From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sun Aug 8 10:52:32 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 10:52:32 EDT Subject: OFF: Zen Guerrilla CD Message-ID: Anyone interested in buying a copy of this cd, $5 post paid within the U.S. ($6 anywhere else) please email me privately and I'll hold it for you. ZEN GUERRILLA "Invisible Liftee Pads" CD EP still sealed (this is their 2nd cd) Their first self titled CD is a masterpiece of spacerock and at this time extremely rare, This particular cd was released just after their 1st and is more blues/hard rock based than their 1st. Marked by their singer's densely hysterical vocals and super heavy band ZG has won acclaim at their live shows, mostly by the bands they share the bill with This cd released around 1995 is the original issue put out by the band to give to their fans and press, and comes in a light plastic bag with a wrap around sheet. They later released this in a jewel case tracks: Chicken Scratch Slip Knot Wee Wee Hours Dirty Jewel (Poor Man's Pocket Watch) Tin Can Jig A Boo From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Aug 8 14:55:56 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 19:55:56 +0100 Subject: HW/OFF: LLOYD LANGTON GROUP GIG- general info In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 8 Aug 1999, [ISO-8859-1] Soniqu? wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: lloydlangton > To: Paul Ward > Sent: Sunday, August 08, 1999 8:46 AM > Subject: LLOYD LANGTON GROUP GIG > > HUW HAS FINISHED HIS CD AND THEY ARE DOING AN IMPROMPTU GIG AT GREYHOUND > HENDON IN HENDON - TEL: 0181 203 1300 - TO CELEBRATE 5 MONTHS OF SLOG - > FRIDAY 20TH AUGUST- JOHN CLARK THE ORIGINAL DRUMMER HAS REJOINED AND IS > PLAYING BETTER THAN EVER. Is that the John Clark chappy who turns up randomly on 'Night of the Hawks?' Which LLB stuff is he on? Any trivialists out there fill me in on this? Yours, Jon From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Sun Aug 8 20:12:08 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 09:12:08 +0900 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet - Tokyo 8/8 Message-ID: I haven't seen Monster magnet before so this gig was a bit of an experiment. Thankfully, On Air East is bigger than the West version where Gong played a few weeks ago. Still only a five or six hundred capacity venue, though, so it was all pretty intimate. Got to admit that the first half or so wasn't my bag. Maybe I'm getting old (too old for the mosh pit, for sure) but tongue wagging guitarists don't do it for me these days :-) And maybe I'm getting cynical but the heavy metal poodle (or hairstyle with a bass as Manami described him) _did_ look funny! I don't think I was alone in not getting the first half of the show. the mosh pit was bouncing, sure, but it wasn't until Dopes to Infinity appeared that the crowd-surfing began and things started to rock. Up till then it seemed MM were trying too hard. Maybe because they were headlining after coming bottom of the bill the day before with Marylin Manson and Megadeth (amongst others - I can't comment, I didn't go.) It was maybe because the show started at 6pm (this being Tokyo and all) which is hardly the traditional moment for this kind of gig. Whatever, after DtI things got moving and it was nice to see a Theremin being abused for assorted swirly noises on the intro to Brainstorm. Lots of stuff from the new album, of course, and no extended jams in Tab style, mores the pity. Perhaps the USA contingent can comment whether MM gigs are normally so slick and tight and evidently rehearsed or do they let rip a bit more at home? Did they tailor the set for the local taste, which is definitely on the heavy side? The encore was a number that may have been called I will Deny You, but probably wasn't (it's not on the albums I've got!) followed by Kick Out the Jams which was the highlight song of the set. All done by 7:45. -- Dave Greenhalgh ICQ#33513470 From artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM Sun Aug 8 23:35:29 1999 From: artshop at ARTIST-SHOP.COM (Gary Davis) Date: Sun, 8 Aug 1999 23:35:29 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind imports; Quarkspace Message-ID: Hi, folks: The latest Artist Shop newsletter is out and you'll find it in its entirety at . Here are some excerpts of interest to Hawkwind/BOC fans. On our import preorder page you'll find: HAWKWIND-EPOCH - ECLIPSE 30 YEAR... (3CD) Three disc retrospective to coincide with the 30th anniversary of the kings of space rock. 45 tracks, including some remixes, single edits, original versions and other hard to find gems. Includes 'Master Of The Universe', 'Silver Machine', 'Hurry On Sundown' and 'Motorhead'. The full title is 'Epoch - Eclipse 30 Year Anthology'. HAWKWIND-EPOCH - ECLIPSE (THE ULTIMATE BEST OF) 1999 retrospective to coincide with the 30th anniversary of the kings of space rock. 19 tracks, including some single edits. Includes 'Master Of The Universe', two versions of 'Silver Machine' and more! On our page of newly released imports you'll find: BLUE OYSTER CULT-AGENTS OF FORTUNE Limited edition reissue, in a digipak, of B.O.C.'s top 30 & platinum 1976 album featuring the classic '(Don't Fear) The Reaper'. GONG-OTHER SIDE OF THE SKY (2CD) Two CD compilation of the finest recordings by Daevid Allen with his space/ prog outfit Gong. Includes 'The Pot Head Pixies', 'Squeezing Sponges Over Policemans Heads' and 'Sold To The Highest Buddha'. 22 tracks total. HAWKWIND-BACK CATALOG: IT IS THE BUSINESS OF THE FUTURE TO BE DANGEROUS LEVITATION LIVE IN 1979 PALACE SPRINGS SPACE BANDITS XENON CODEX Reissues of select albums from the '80s & '90s by the legendary English prog/ space rock group. Also, fans of Hawkind and space rock in general may be familiar with an up and coming space rock group called Quarkspace which has been newly added to our New Artist section . Quarkspace was formed in 1984 and was originally called Quark! "Space" was added later to stave off any potential lawsuits by a certain software company. College classmates - Jay Swanson on keys, and Kevin Wherry on bass were joined by the brother of a classmate - Darren Gough (guitar). They proceeded to work on cover material, planning to play frat parties and local bars. Fledgling singer-songwriter Chet Santia soon joined along with Darren's classmate, Paul Williams on drums. Whilst slaving over cover tunes by Zappa, Camel, Neil Young, Talking Heads, etc., plus a few originals - a knack for communal space jams became apparent. Paul and Chet both left in early 1986 to concentrate on school. The other members continued for about a year with another singer and a couple of drummers before Quark! went dormant for a period. In the interim, Jay released a couple of cassettes of homespun keyboard music. Paul played in a few bands (including the almost legendary New Druids) and released an ambient space solstice-music cassette that once was the first release from Eternity's Jest Records. Dave Wexler had spent several years writing songs and playing guitar in bands along the west coast before meeting Paul in 1991. Quarkspace released it's first CD in 1996 with Dave (and others) appearing as a guest. By the time spacefolds 2 was released, Dave became the newest member of the band. Since then quarkspace has done several successful live performances (including appearances at Strange Daze 97 & 98 with Hawkwind and some of the other best American spacerock bands, including Alien Planetscapes, Architectual Metaphor, F/i, Melting Euphoria, Pressurehed, ST37, Born to Go, etc). Their second CD, Live Orion, was recorded at the first Orion Spacerock festival. It was named the 3rd best Psychedelic/Spacerock Album of 1998 by the French-canadien Avant-garde radio show, Delire Musical. It also finished #53 on the Gagliarchives Top 100 Progressive albums of 1998. Quarkspace have just released their latest CD, Spacefolds 5, the latest in the Spacefolds series and the first released on CD. This is not a mini-CD as the price might suggest, but over 70 minutes of extended space jams! ...an outer space rave leading to a journey across uncharted space towards ascension into the quark nebula... 100% certified raw improv...enjoy and beware... National Steam is made up of Paul and Dave from quarkspace, plus special guests. They specialize in psychedelic progressive electronica with some kinda strange and crunchy exceptions. Mike Taylor of the Gilbraltar Electronic Magazine says Steam are "excellent.... kinda reminds me of Clearlight." J. J. Iglesias of the Spanish magazine Atropos loved the debut space cassette "SteamDream 1", comparing it to Steve Hillage/Tim Blake era Gong. John Patterson of Progression Magazine highly recommended the Steam debut CD, saying the boys "hit the cosmick nail square on its head!" J. D. Dallas of cringe.com wondered whether R2D2 made a guest appearance! Check 'em out!!! Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop at artist-shop.com phone: 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 SUPPORT THE INDEPENDENT ARTIST!!! ************************************************************** Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Mon Aug 9 01:52:55 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 00:52:55 -0500 Subject: OFF: ICU Message-ID: I've been wanting to get some Inner City Unit material for a while, but don't know where to begin. The only tracks I've heard from them are "Raj Neesh" and "Space Invaders", which I really like. Before I really knew or cared about them I remember a BOC-L discussion about a new CD ROM that held either all of their music or a broad sampling of it. (I actually tried to search the list archives for this information, but something was broken). Is it still available anywhere? ...and is anyone blessed with the lyrics to Raj Neesh, or the knowledge of whether or not the voice of Arthur Brown is in the middle of this song (in the live version on Best of Friends and Relations)? any response welcomed! From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Mon Aug 9 02:53:26 1999 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:53:26 +0200 Subject: OFF: ICU In-Reply-To: <37AE6CB7.D70E64CC@softhome.net> Message-ID: >I've been wanting to get some Inner City Unit material for a while, but >don't know where to begin. The only tracks I've heard from them are "Raj >Neesh" and "Space Invaders", which I really like. > >Before I really knew or cared about them I remember a BOC-L discussion >about a new CD ROM that held either all of their music or a broad >sampling of it. (I actually tried to search the list archives for this >information, but something was broken). Is it still available anywhere? > >...and is anyone blessed with the lyrics to Raj Neesh, or the knowledge >of whether or not the voice of Arthur Brown is in the middle of this >song (in the live version on Best of Friends and Relations)? > try http://www.doremi.co.uk/icu/ for more information about inner city unit. and ask steve pond personally if he can help you. he did a good job for me and helped me a lot with their backcatalogue. andre From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Mon Aug 9 10:44:49 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 15:44:49 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind imports; Quarkspace In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19990809033529.00d0bc3c@gwis.com> Message-ID: At 23:35 08/08/99 -0400, you wrote: >were joined by the brother of a classmate - Darren Gough (guitar). They ******************** While moonlighting from international cricket? ;-{P> ChrisW ObCD: Wayne Horvitz & Pigpen - Miss Ann "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Aug 9 11:06:01 1999 From: judge48 at HOTMAIL.COM (trevor thoms) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 08:06:01 PDT Subject: Sen. Volstead ICU cassettes Message-ID: I'm re-sending this list especially for Sen. Volstead. It represents all of ICU's Albums except "The Imperial Pompadours" up to 1984... Arthur Brown was not on "Raj Neesh", Nik did the talk-over... Write for the words Sen... Pass-Out ICU Punkadelic ICU The Maximum effect ICU Maiden Voyage Iron Maiden (featuring me, circa 1970) Now You Know The Score ICU (without Nik) all at ?3.99 +p&p (on chrome cassette) Now You Know The Score C.D. ICU ?9.99 + p&p Cheques/P.O.s/hidden cash to: T Thoms, 48 Barbauld Rd, London, N16 OST. p&p add: U.K. 50p - Europe ?1 - U.S.A. ?1.20 - rest of world ?2 per extra item 10p 30p 60p 70p respectively or equivalent currency All buyers will be informed of future I.C.U. activity. How's that for cottage industry. Love, Judge Trev ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Mon Aug 9 12:41:55 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 17:41:55 +0100 Subject: HW: Dawn of Hawkwind In-Reply-To: <199908090901.FAA27574@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hmmm, can't reply to Stephan at his address, so it's going via the list matey. Have got both copies of DoH from HMV, the list price was 14.49 UK, postage to you will be free via my employers, hur hur hur. The copies are numbers 0134 and 0308 of 2000, copy 0134 is reserved for you, please advise me of your snail address - would obviously prefer cash stuff in sterling but haven't got a clue what the current exchange rates are so I'll let you work it out (lazy me). Copy number 0308 is reserved for Cliff & Pam, same applies, please advise what ya want me to do next. Meanwhile it's time to call California, work must go on. . . and on and on NP: Chronicle - Needle Gun at volume setting max+ Followed by Utah Saints even louder...Watch out ears. Cheers guys, Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Aug 9 14:38:06 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 11:38:06 -0700 Subject: HW/OFF: LLOYD LANGTON GROUP GIG- general info Message-ID: On Sun, 8 Aug 1999 19:55:56 +0100, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: >On Sun, 8 Aug 1999, [ISO-8859-1] Soniqu? wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: lloydlangton >> To: Paul Ward >> Sent: Sunday, August 08, 1999 8:46 AM >> Subject: LLOYD LANGTON GROUP GIG >> >> HUW HAS FINISHED HIS CD AND THEY ARE DOING AN IMPROMPTU GIG AT GREYHOUND >> HENDON IN HENDON - TEL: 0181 203 1300 - TO CELEBRATE 5 MONTHS OF SLOG - >> FRIDAY 20TH AUGUST- JOHN CLARK THE ORIGINAL DRUMMER HAS REJOINED AND IS >> PLAYING BETTER THAN EVER. > > > > Is that the John Clark chappy who turns up randomly on 'Night of >the Hawks?' Yes. The same one. Does anyone know exactly which tracks he plays on, and which ones Rob Heaton does? I assume that John Clark is on "Dragons and Fables", but what about "Green-Finned Demon" and the title track ("Dream Dancers" sounds like synthesized rhythms to me)? (also, does Lemmy play bass on any of the songs other than the title track? I didn't think so?) >Which LLB stuff is he on? Any trivialists out there fill me in >on this? That I don't know ... anyone ... ? -Doug ceres at sirius.com From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Mon Aug 9 18:02:25 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 23:02:25 +0100 Subject: HW: #134 Message-ID: Stephan, your mail gets abnormally terminated when I try to send, humph. Do you have trusted mail only set up, if so throw me an alt. mail addy. Later dude. Mark ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Mon Aug 9 19:35:45 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:35:45 -0500 Subject: HW: Dawn of Hawkwind Message-ID: Thats $23.30 in US Dollars...call your bank and ask them how much they charge to convert currency, and I'll add that in. Hawkman -----Original Message----- From: Mark Lee To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Monday, August 09, 1999 12:29 PM Subject: HW: Dawn of Hawkwind >Hmmm, can't reply to Stephan at his address, so it's >going via the list matey. > >Have got both copies of DoH from HMV, the list >price was 14.49 UK, postage to you will be free >via my employers, hur hur hur. > >The copies are numbers 0134 and 0308 of 2000, >copy 0134 is reserved for you, please advise me >of your snail address - would obviously prefer >cash stuff in sterling but haven't got a clue what >the current exchange rates are so I'll let you >work it out (lazy me). > >Copy number 0308 is reserved for Cliff & Pam, >same applies, please advise what ya want me to >do next. > >Meanwhile it's time to call California, work must go on. . . >and on and on > >NP: Chronicle - Needle Gun at volume setting max+ >Followed by Utah Saints even louder...Watch out ears. > >Cheers guys, > >Mark. >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Please reply to mark at esparto.org >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From adrian.brevard at EDS.COM Mon Aug 9 16:48:49 1999 From: adrian.brevard at EDS.COM (Brevard, Adrian R) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 15:48:49 -0500 Subject: BOC : VH1 and other stuff Message-ID: >Spock's Beard >Day For Night European Tour Good band...go see them... >The encore was a number that may have been called I will >Deny You, but probably wasn't (it's not on the albums I've >got!) Gee guy thanks...now I got vapor lock trying to think of the title of this mutha... >followed by Kick Out the Jams which was the highlight song of the set. Hey what disc is this on? Heard it once in a record store...put BOC's version to shame...also sounds like you don't care much for the "not so new album", Powertrip. >Any exposure is good exposure, and I hope it helps these guys out. >-- Nick Well...ya this is true...but...this is BOC-L; denizens here are more than happy to see the dark before testing the light hehehehehehe What the hell our proxy server is toast...routers are somewhere on Mars...no one's going to see this post anyway...so... Theo, I'm making a Live Rush Compilation tape in your honor...some of your faves will be on it...The Trees...YYZ...Bytor and the Snowdog...La Villa Strangiato...its gonna smoke...wanna copy? GitR Rush - Exit Stage Left (the Remasters) From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Mon Aug 9 22:19:08 1999 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:19:08 +1000 Subject: HW/OFF: Moorcock Demos origin? Message-ID: Hi all, I was wondering if anyone had any ideas where the two Moorcock demos found on several bootlegs originated - the titles being "My New Knife" and "Peter the Vulture". There seems to be some kind of mystery as to how these got out at all, and noone seems to know where they came from. Any help would be appreciated, as this seems to be turning into one of the great unanswered questions of the multiverse... Max Wilcox, Multiversal Chrononaut From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Aug 9 22:56:21 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 03:56:21 +0100 Subject: BOC : VH1 and other stuff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Brevard, Adrian R wrote: > >The encore was a number that may have been called I will > >Deny You, but probably wasn't (it's not on the albums I've > >got!) > > Gee guy thanks...now I got vapor lock trying to think of the title of this > mutha... That has to be 'Negasonic Teenage Warhead', doesn't it? That's practically the chorus... > >followed by Kick Out the Jams which was the highlight song of the set. > > Hey what disc is this on? Heard it once in a record store...put BOC's > version to shame...also sounds like you don't care much for the "not so new > album", Powertrip. B-side to 'Space Lord' on one of the CDS versions, also I believe on one of the CDSs of 'Powertrip'... Yours, Jon From sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI Tue Aug 10 02:55:52 1999 From: sla at RNI.HELSINKI.FI (Santeri Laakso) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 09:55:52 +0300 Subject: New email address & some Dark Sun info Message-ID: Hello everyone! This is Santtu from Finnish Space Rock band Dark Sun. I just wanted to let you know that my new email address will be from tomorrow: darksanttu at hotmail.com I might not be able to read it that often, but will try to check it every week. Then some Dark Sun news: we recorded our gig with Nik Turner here in Helsinki on the 3rd of July. We just went to studio last Friday to listen to the adats, and they sounded great! This means that there will propably be a live CD out later this year, including a few Dark Sun numbers with classic Hawkwind / ICU songs. There also might be a limited video release of the gig. There's also a new Dark Sun studio album (inc. Nik on a few tracks) on the way. That's all for now, over and out. All Peace to You, Galactic Brothers and Sisters, Darksanttu From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Tue Aug 10 01:42:11 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 05:42:11 +0000 Subject: BOC: VH1 Message-ID: > Allen talked a lot. Buck didn't speak at all! He just sat there looking > cool. Let's hope Allen's coming forward on VH1 leads to some songwriting > credits on the new album. I could be wrong, but I just sorta got the feeling that Buck didn't want to be on the show at all. Perhaps he objected to the implication that BOC have been "missing in action". On the other hand, it's possible that he was a very active participant in the interview, and someone in the editing room decided that none of his comments were broadcast-worthy. He just didn't look happy to me. -- Nick From AgentOF at AOL.COM Tue Aug 10 08:27:25 1999 From: AgentOF at AOL.COM (Chuck Saden) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 08:27:25 EDT Subject: BOC: VH1 Message-ID: In a message dated 8/10/99 5:24:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, nick at THECAMPUS.COM writes: << He just didn't look happy to me. -- Nick >> Buck stated on his board on AOL that the VH1 crew was well informed but that the interview, from his standpoint wasn't very interesting. I'm surprised he didn't yawn in the clip :-) chuck From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Tue Aug 10 08:44:22 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:44:22 +0100 Subject: HW: For Stephan. In-Reply-To: <199908100901.FAA01311@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >Thats $23.30 in US Dollars...call your bank and ask them >how much they charge to convert currency, and I'll add that in. > >Hawkman > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mark Lee >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Date: Monday, August 09, 1999 12:29 PM >Subject: HW: Dawn of Hawkwind I can do the exchange on the high street for less than the bank, just rount up to 25 and that should be okay, they don't do loose change at the exchange shop. Cheers Stephan. PS: Need your snail address now. Sorry about using the list, I think I can get through to you via boeing... Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Tue Aug 10 12:12:16 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:12:16 -0400 Subject: BOC: VH1 In-Reply-To: <9794cf1f.24e174ad@aol.com>; from on Tue, Aug 10, 1999 at 08:27:25AM -0400 Message-ID: On Tue, Aug 10, 1999 at 08:27:25AM -0400, wrote: > -- Nick >> > Buck stated on his board on AOL that the VH1 crew was well informed He did? The people who said that BOC had put out 2 dozen albums? :-) When counting compilations, I don't see how anybody could come up with that number... Also, it still amuses me that they refered to Eric as "the group's vocalist" (as if they had only one), when in fact it was Buck singing in all the clips that they showed... > the interview, from his standpoint wasn't very interesting. I'm surprised he > didn't yawn in the clip :-) Maybe they edited that out, along with everything that he said. :) Steve swann at plutonia.com From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Tue Aug 10 14:08:41 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:08:41 -0400 Subject: HW: Re: New Remasters better sound? In-Reply-To: <199908061413.PAA10101@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>; from M Holmes on Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 03:13:19PM +0100 Message-ID: On Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 03:13:19PM +0100, M Holmes wrote: Paul sez: > > Wait a minute, I'm confused. Mike was talking about "the *six* new > > remastered Hawkwind albums," and since he undoubtedly has the *five* EMI > > remasters, surely he is talking about something else? > > > > So, Mike, what are the titles of the six new remasters? (And who is > > doing them?) > > It's EMI I believe. TistheBis, Xenon Codex, Live '79, Levitation and > errrr.... Wow, a whole bunch of albums that are absolutely not in need of remastering. I dunno about _TheBiz_, but the others are some *fine* sounding CDs. I suppose if this is just an effort to get their back-catalog under control, then it's ok, and not just a waste of studio time and money. I think they deserve to own their own music, after all these years. :-) BTW, did we ever settle the issue of whether there was a difference in sound between the single-album issue of Levitation, and the Castle two-for-one _Levitation/Live '79_? I've got the "twofer" and frankly, both of them have a crystalline perfection of sound that sometimes makes me doubt that they're Hawkwind albums. ;-) Steve From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Tue Aug 10 16:39:44 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:39:44 -0500 Subject: HW: Re: New Remasters better sound? Message-ID: Stephen Swann wrote: > On Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 03:13:19PM +0100, M Holmes wrote: > Paul sez: > > > Wait a minute, I'm confused. Mike was talking about "the *six* new > > > remastered Hawkwind albums," and since he undoubtedly has the *five* EMI > > > remasters, surely he is talking about something else? > > > > > > So, Mike, what are the titles of the six new remasters? (And who is > > > doing them?) > > > > It's EMI I believe. TistheBis, Xenon Codex, Live '79, Levitation and > > errrr.... > > Wow, a whole bunch of albums that are absolutely not in need of > remastering. I dunno about _TheBiz_, but the others are some *fine* > sounding CDs. I suppose if this is just an effort to get their > back-catalog under control, then it's ok, and not just a waste of > studio time and money. I think they deserve to own their own music, > after all these years. :-) > > BTW, did we ever settle the issue of whether there was a difference in > sound between the single-album issue of Levitation, and the Castle > two-for-one _Levitation/Live '79_? I've got the "twofer" and frankly, > both of them have a crystalline perfection of sound that sometimes > makes me doubt that they're Hawkwind albums. ;-) > > Steve Levitation must be one of the cleanest sounding albums they have! Last year I would blast World of Tiers and Space Chase in my dorm, and more than once someone thought it was some sort of weird, brand-new house music! From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Aug 10 15:49:22 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 12:49:22 -0700 Subject: HW: Re: New Remasters better sound? Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Aug 1999 15:39:44 -0500, "Sen. Volstead" wrote: >Stephen Swann wrote: >> BTW, did we ever settle the issue of whether there was a difference in >> sound between the single-album issue of Levitation, and the Castle >> two-for-one _Levitation/Live '79_? I've got the "twofer" and frankly, >> both of them have a crystalline perfection of sound that sometimes >> makes me doubt that they're Hawkwind albums. ;-) > >Levitation must be one of the cleanest sounding albums they have! Don't forget that it was one of the first-ever albums recorded on digital tape. I'm not sure which rock acts besides Frank Zappa had already recorded to digital at this point (1980). Presumably it would be the item in the Hawkwind back catalog LEAST in need of digital remastering. (although I don't have it on CD *at all* so I can't comment on mastering differences, but I'd bet there's not much difference...) -Doug ceres at sirius.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Aug 10 14:36:13 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:36:13 -0400 Subject: OFF: SD'99 - No ToC Message-ID: Hi Folks... The word's gotten out that Tribe of Cro have ditched their entire US tour, which was to include numerous dates from east to west and festival performances at both Strange Daze (Fri. night headliner) and ProgDay. I've seen the notification from their tour manager, and it's not very flattering towards the attitude of the band members themselves. The reason is money (of course...it's either that or visas, innit?), though it appears they will lose *more* money by not coming than they would have lost if they *had* come. You figure out that logic! And quite a few others will now be losing money who had planned to support the band, play shows with them, etc. I don't understand what the hell they were thinking. I don't feel like I should publicly slander them for any perceived unprofessionalism (without stronger evidence), but I'm at a loss to understand why they balked one week in advance of something that has been planned for four months! Anyway, I'm guessing that Friday night will be headlined by Helios Creed now, which is fine and dandy with me. I'll post again when I find out Jim who will fill in the earlier slot on Friday. I've made some suggestions...I hope he listens to me. :) I hope that noone will cancel their plans for coming based on this info. I still believe that this is an *American* Space Rock festival...and even though I love seeing the Eurospacers here (virtually our only solid chance to see them), I wouldn't be terribly upset if we didn't have anyone other than domestic issues. :) There are plenty of good ones. Note to anyone from the upper midwest...there seems to be a caravan of sorts forming in Chicago for the trip east. If you're looking for a ride or company, you might check out the message center on Jim's page (strange-trips.com) for a contact addy. And note that the Ledges has their own site, with maps, photos, and info about the site...www.nlqp.com See ya' there (ToC or not!)...Keith H. (FAA) From erics at TELEPRES.COM Tue Aug 10 16:25:14 1999 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:25:14 -0400 Subject: HW: Re: New Remasters better sound? In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990810124922.008ce860@pop.sirius.com> from "Doug Pearson" at Aug 10, 99 12:49:22 pm Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: > I'm not sure which rock acts besides Frank Zappa had already > recorded to digital at this point (1980). Stevie Wonder. I still remember all the hype about _Secret Life of Plants_. That was '79, apparently. What I don't remember at all is what the thing sounded like -- largely because I probably never bothered listening to it :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / I'm going to change it, but it's going to take some time. - Linus Torvalds, on Windows's market leadership From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Aug 10 17:29:29 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 17:29:29 EDT Subject: OFF: SD'99 - No ToC Message-ID: In a message dated 8/10/99 3:50:28 PM, henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: <> ==== and now, a clip from "dr. synth", doug walker of alien planetscapes START CLIP <> END CLIP "<>" From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Aug 10 20:20:24 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 20:20:24 -0400 Subject: OFF: Anubian Lights Message-ID: Hi Folks... Somebody here mentioned an upcoming Anubian Lights CD, some sort of remix album I think. Anybody have any more concrete details, like a title and release date? Thanks...Keith H. (FAA) From greatsunjester at YAHOO.COM Tue Aug 10 22:09:23 1999 From: greatsunjester at YAHOO.COM (Darnell Buffington) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:09:23 -0700 Subject: BOC: VH1 Message-ID: --- Stephen Swann wrote: > He did? The people who said that BOC had put out 2 > dozen albums? :-) > When counting compilations, I don't see how anybody > could come up with > that number... Well, if you include boots, its pretty close :-) > Also, it still amuses me that they refered to Eric > as "the group's > vocalist" (as if they had only one), when in fact it > was Buck singing > in all the clips that they showed... I'm glad I missed it. It sounds like the project had such great promise but they screwed it up. GSJ _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Wed Aug 11 05:12:14 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:12:14 +0900 Subject: OFF: Happy Eclipse Message-ID: To all those who can see it from one who can't, hope it's clear, and enjoy HW dave From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Aug 11 05:31:20 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:31:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: Happy Eclipse In-Reply-To: <37B13E6E.95058ABC@virgin.net> Message-ID: It's begun, it's a beautiful day in London, and my pinhole camera works! --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Dave Greenhalgh > Sent: 11 August 1999 10:12 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: OFF: Happy Eclipse > > > To all those who can see it from one who can't, hope it's > clear, and enjoy HW > > dave > From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 11 05:52:00 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:52:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Re: New Remasters better sound? In-Reply-To: <19990810140841.A11305@plutonia.com> Message-ID: At 19:08 10/08/99 , Stephen Swann wrote: >BTW, did we ever settle the issue of whether there was a difference in >sound between the single-album issue of Levitation, and the Castle >two-for-one _Levitation/Live '79_? What about whether last year's (?) re-release of Live Chronicles is better than the earlier CD versions? (I mean the single-disc version, I think it was from Griffin? Actually, I don't remember the details). Dave. From Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG Wed Aug 11 11:11:40 1999 From: Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG (Olivier Boigey) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:11:40 +0200 Subject: HW:Dawn ofI Message-ID: Maybe I missed the info, but is this CD a compilation -again - ? , is it worth the $30 asked for it ? Olivier /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Olivier Boigey mailto:olivier_boigey at technolink.org http://www.bwaje.claranet.fr /_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ - sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered). From DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM Wed Aug 11 11:02:42 1999 From: DDUCTOR at NEUUS.JNJ.COM (Ductor, Dan [NEUUS]) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:02:42 -0400 Subject: Anubian Lights Message-ID: I purchased an Anubian Lights Remix cd at their show in Los Angeles. That was about a month ago. Great stuff on it. Since I'm at work now, I don't recall what the title is. It's certainly worth picking up. Dan -----Original Message----- From: Keith Henderson [SMTP:henderson.120 at OSU.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 5:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: OFF: Anubian Lights Hi Folks... Somebody here mentioned an upcoming Anubian Lights CD, some sort of remix album I think. Anybody have any more concrete details, like a title and release date? Thanks...Keith H. (FAA) From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Wed Aug 11 11:55:11 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:55:11 -0500 Subject: HW:BOC-L Message-ID: I know this is gonna sound stupid, but what does the "L" in BOC-L stand for? Levitation? Lemmy? Dave "L" Brock? I waz never told! :) Hawkman. P.S. What's this new Comp CD coming out - all about? It's on CD Zone www.cdzone.co.uk "Year 2000 Codename Hawkwind" Volume....? From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Wed Aug 11 11:56:31 1999 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:56:31 +0100 Subject: HW:BOC-L Message-ID: List isn't it? -- Kevin Perry http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephan Spiegel To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 4:55 PM Subject: HW:BOC-L > I know this is gonna sound stupid, but what does the "L" > in BOC-L stand for? Levitation? Lemmy? Dave "L" Brock? > > I waz never told! > > :) > > Hawkman. > > P.S. What's this new Comp CD coming out - all about? > It's on CD Zone www.cdzone.co.uk > "Year 2000 Codename Hawkwind" Volume....? From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Wed Aug 11 12:47:27 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:47:27 -0400 Subject: HW: Re: New Remasters better sound? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990811104918.00989ef0@pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk>; from Dave Berry on Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 10:52:00AM +0100 Message-ID: On Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 10:52:00AM +0100, Dave Berry wrote: > At 19:08 10/08/99 , Stephen Swann wrote: > >BTW, did we ever settle the issue of whether there was a difference in > >sound between the single-album issue of Levitation, and the Castle > >two-for-one _Levitation/Live '79_? > > What about whether last year's (?) re-release of Live Chronicles is better > than the earlier CD versions? (I mean the single-disc version, I think it > was from Griffin? Actually, I don't remember the details). The re-release of the Castle _Live Chronicles_ (the one with the extra tracks) sounds slightly different than the original Castle 1-CD release; these both sound different than the Griffin 2-CD release, and they all sound different than the vinyl. ;-) Basically, in my opinion, the best sounding release is the vinyl double LP. It has a beautiful smoothness of sound, and Huw's guitar cuts through the mix like a laser beam. The next best is a toss-up between the two Castle CD releases. To be honest, I don't recall them being that much of different. The re-release sounds similar to the original, but (and I'd have to go back and do another comparative listening to be sure of this) I think that they seem to have "beefed up" the bottom end, given a little more kick to the bass and drums. I don't consider this "better" or "worse", it depends really on whether you like the bass and drums to have more presence, or whether you like the more balanced sound of the original (I think the original sounds closer to the vinyl). Both Castle CD releases suffer somewhat from some high-end shrillness, especially in the frequently-used synthesizer washes (the vinyl's smooth high-end rolloff diminishes this effect, leaving the synths sparklingly clear, but not shrill). At the bottom of the heap is the Griffin 2-CD set, which I'm sorry to say sounds like shit. Call it murky, muddy, ill-defined, whatever; it sounds like it was mastered using a pocket cassette recorder. If it wasn't for the restored tracks, I'd say there was no reason whatsoever to own this. Steve swann at plutonia.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Wed Aug 11 14:28:19 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:28:19 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Set-list Message-ID: "Space Does Not Care" 8/7/99, 88.3 KUCR, Saturdays 7-9 pm PST 1.Faust--Krautrock 2.Zappa/Mothers--Charles Ives (You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore Vol. 5) 3.Hawkwind--Stonehenge Decoded 4.Popol Vuh--Aguirre 5.Pressurehed--Altitude 6.Beyondomatic--Aquior 7.Farflung--Future Days 8.B.O.C.--The Red and the Black (On Your Feet, Or on You Knees) 9.Hawkwind/Alien Prophets--Right to Decide (Radio edit mix, Decide Your Future EP) 10.Primus--The Air Is Getting Slippery 11.Residents--Lizard Lady 12.Zappa/Mothers--Motherly Love 13.Pink Floyd--Matilda Mother 14.Melting Euphoria--Into the Liquid Mirror 15.Anubian Lights--Ali Mamoun's Broken Entranceway 16.Tea Party--The Bazaar 17.Miles Davis--Mystery 18.Orb--Spanish Castles In Space 19.Amon Duul II--Stumbling Over Melted Moonlight 20.Nik Turner--Opa-Loka 2000 (Sonic Attack 2001) Thanks, Chuck From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Aug 12 03:49:14 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 03:49:14 EDT Subject: OFFF: AOL's 20th century top 10 (no cookies/no vote) Message-ID: submitted under the general categorization of "misery loves company". the list and their standings as of thursday morning. 1) what a wonderful world - louis armstrong 2) imagine - john lennon 3) american pie - don mclean 4) stairway to heaven - led zeppelin 5) my heart will go on -celine dion 6) smells like teen spirit - nirvana 7) let it be - beatles 8) the dance - garth brooks 9) rhapsody in blue - george gershwin 10) my way - frank sinatra heck, i voted for "rhapsody in blue" just for spite, but as my "cookies" werent activated my vote didnt count. yeah, i got yer cookies right here, pal.... "<>" From SHLL at NOVO.DK Thu Aug 12 05:13:56 1999 From: SHLL at NOVO.DK (SHLL (Scott Heller)) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:13:56 +0200 Subject: HW: Cornwall Message-ID: Hej, How was the HW gathering? Any reports? Did you all meet up and have a great time? I heard it was cloudy? We had a great view of the 84% here in denmark... Also, Anyone know what these are: New Release 30 Aug 1999 Hawkwind: Remix (Audio CD) LIQCD015 Dutch Import New Release 23 Aug 1999 Hawkwind: Year 2000 Codename Hawkwind Vol (Audio CD) PILOT33 Yet, two more compilations.. There must be more HW compilations than Rolling Stones records!! SCott ObCD- Bionaut- Big causway to GOne CD From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Aug 12 05:32:39 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 10:32:39 +0100 Subject: HW: Cornwall In-Reply-To: <27839F4FFBF6D21181E20008C7C5640801AC72AE@exdkba04.novo.dk> Message-ID: > Also, Anyone know what these are: > > New Release 30 Aug 1999 Hawkwind: Remix (Audio CD) LIQCD015 > Dutch Import This is a bootleg, and I gather EMI have sent in their legal team with a big stick. So you may not be able to get a copy anyway. Bit of a shame, in a way, because it seemed more interesting than the same old stuff again and again... --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From des at SUPERLINK.NET Fri Aug 13 08:58:04 1999 From: des at SUPERLINK.NET (E F) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:58:04 -0400 Subject: Test Message-ID: Gone Again? -- Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Albert Einstein From micci at SCI.FI Fri Aug 13 10:02:07 1999 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:02:07 +0300 Subject: OFF Message-ID: Hi! Onko ket??n menossa lauantaina Tavastialle kattomaan Robertsonia? Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Aug 13 11:01:59 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:01:59 EDT Subject: Test Message-ID: In a message dated 8/13/99 8:58:19 AM, des at SUPERLINK.NET writes: <> well yeah, i woulda thought so meself, except now i've heard from you "<>" From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Fri Aug 13 14:18:51 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 14:18:51 EDT Subject: Fwd: This email contains the file KUCR.pls Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Herb Rosenberg" Subject: This email contains the file KUCR.pls Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:47:53 -0700 Size: 1393 URL: From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Aug 13 16:15:13 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 13:15:13 -0700 Subject: HW: Cornwall Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:13:56 +0200, "SHLL (Scott Heller)" wrote: >Hej, > How was the HW gathering? Any reports? Did you all meet up and have >a great time? Yeah, enquiring minds wanna know! Does anyone have a report? (or is the list down again despite the two test messages that made it through?) On a vaguely-unrelated note, I was recently thumbing through a (the?) Throbbing Gristle/COUM bio at a friend's house (COUM was the vaguely performance art group that Genesis P. Orridge and Cosey were involved with before TG), and there were a couple of Hawkwind references. Apparently, early on, COUM did a few performances as a musical (rather than artistic) collective, one of which was in the opening slot for Hawkwind in late 1971 (if anyone is interested, I can go back and look up the date/venue). Also, in an interview (from 78 or 79 IIRC), mr. P. Orridge mildly disses HW by giving them as an example of a band NOT making "real" future music, as opposed to TG, who were. (Ironically, of course, both Hawkwind and Throbbing Gristle have been hugely influential on today's music, both to the point where many musicians today probably don't even know that they were influenced by one, both, or the other). BTW, the book (can't remember the title) is a great read - essential for anyone into the "industrial" genre, and still damn entertaining for anyone into anything remotely "countercultural". -Doug ceres at sirius.com From chris_baxley at SONYMUSIC.COM Fri Aug 13 12:21:12 1999 From: chris_baxley at SONYMUSIC.COM (Chris Baxley) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 09:21:12 -0700 Subject: OFF: clearing out old albums Message-ID: Tim wrote: > Also anybody heard stuff by Turbonegro ? One of there's going pretty cheap near me too. Sorry if this is too late, but I saw this band a few years ago and they rocked. Back then their name was "TRBNGR". Not sure what it means, but I think they're from Norway. I remember a squall of about four or five distorto-wah guitars backing rabid garage-y vocals, like something you might hear on Estrus or Sympathy for the Record Industry. They played in a pub with a stage about as big as a good-sized desk, so they couldn't fit on it and a couple of them had to stand off to the side and try not to knock people's drinks out of their hands with their guitar necks. Hope this helps, Chris From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Fri Aug 13 17:17:20 1999 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 22:17:20 +0100 Subject: HW: Cornwall Message-ID: Got back late last night (Thurs)... what can I say... had the time of my life!! (well, one of them!). The eclipse was pretty much obscured by cloud unfortunately, though it was pretty damn impressive as it was. That woulda been worth travelling to see on its own... never mind the added bonus of HAWKWIND! After an altering of the mind ;) we had a wander onto the hill overlooking the site to take in the great views. As we started down we could hear the sounds of the Hawks revving up, the spacey sythns echoing over the fields as we got nearer. Just as we got into the field where the marquee was the countdown at the start of Aerospaceage Inferno began... It was a pretty wild experience walking those last ten seconds into the marquee and then being hit by the full force of one of my favourite songs... ha ha, I'm sitting here laughing at the memory of it! I can't put a complete set-list together, but I remember a couple of what I assume are new songs, plus Assualt & Battery/Golden Void, Love In Space, Ejection, Hassan I Sahba, Motorway City, Brainstorm, plus more that involve too much thinking for my currently fragile mind! It was a pretty small crowd, but that suited me fine, plenty space to really enjoy it... the skies had completely cleared up by this point, so I could stand outside the marquee with the top half of my vision millions of stars and the bottom half Hawkwind!! I'm sure most of you can picture just how good this was, particularly in this, er, "frame of mind". What a background for Love In Space! During the final song Gremlin partII I was watching a satellite travel across the cosmos when one of the brightest shooting stars I've ever seen flashed over... right on cue! I think the Cosmic Joker was trying to make up for covering us in cloud for the eclipse! Er, maybe ;) Anyway, it was a Great Moment In Life without a doubt. Twenty-four hours total driving time getting there and back and I'd do it again tomorrow! (if only) So thanks to Dave and Kris and everyone involved in putting it on. Roll on 2090 (though I'll mostly be in machine form by then). Dave From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Fri Aug 13 17:27:40 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:27:40 -0400 Subject: Fwd: This email contains the file KUCR.pls Message-ID: Which happens to be what? -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Rosenberg To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Friday, August 13, 1999 2:54 PM Subject: Fwd: This email contains the file KUCR.pls > > From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Fri Aug 13 18:26:53 1999 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:26:53 +0100 Subject: HW: Cornwall In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990813131513.008dd570@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: The TG/COUM book you are referring to is probably "Wreckers Of Civilisation", by Simon Ford. HW are mentioned a couple of times, in addition to the instances mentioned below, it is also stated (IIRC) that Chris Carter did lights for HW at some point. I think a flyer for the book also highlighted Chris' HW "connection", possibly as one of the more likely familiar reference points for those who may not know TG. I always intended to ask Chris about this - I see him & Cosey around from time to time as they live just a few miles away from me (near King's Lynn). Seems to me he was always the most musical of COUM/TG; in fact the most recent material of his that I have heard (from ahem 1995) reminds me a lot of Ritchie Hawtin/Plastikman, except less twitchy, more ethereal & beautiful. Um anyway I guess I'll try to ask Chris about it, or e-mail him, if it's important enough to anyone :-/ The book is available from C&C's website: http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~chris.cosey/ Alasdair On 13 Aug 99, at 13:15, Doug Pearson wrote: > On a vaguely-unrelated note, I was recently thumbing through a (the?) > Throbbing Gristle/COUM bio at a friend's house (COUM was the vaguely > performance art group that Genesis P. Orridge and Cosey were involved with > before TG), and there were a couple of Hawkwind references. > > Apparently, early on, COUM did a few performances as a musical (rather > than artistic) collective, one of which was in the opening slot for > Hawkwind in late 1971 (if anyone is interested, I can go back and look up > the date/venue). > > Also, in an interview (from 78 or 79 IIRC), mr. P. Orridge mildly disses > HW by giving them as an example of a band NOT making "real" future music, > as opposed to TG, who were. (Ironically, of course, both Hawkwind and > Throbbing Gristle have been hugely influential on today's music, both to > the point where many musicians today probably don't even know that they > were influenced by one, both, or the other). BTW, the book (can't > remember the title) is a great read - essential for anyone into the > "industrial" genre, and still damn entertaining for anyone into anything > remotely "countercultural". > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Aug 14 01:13:41 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 01:13:41 EDT Subject: HW: Cornwall Message-ID: In a message dated 8/13/99 4:24:40 PM, ceres at SIRIUS.COM writes: <> you think so, doug? "hugely"? maybe, indirectly, as filtered through others but in terms of the states you'd have had to do some serious foraging to find anyone who'd ever heard of them back then. trivia: they got their name from a 45 by a band from those days name of the pork dukes... "<>" From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sat Aug 14 06:40:39 1999 From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 11:40:39 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind at the Eclipse Party Message-ID: Hello Folks Got back from Cornwall yesterday after a few days in the great outdoors. Got to Carleen and found the site after about 20 minutes. Hawkwind played twice at the party. The first set was just after the total eclipse (which was obscured by cloud unfortunately, though it went completely dark and was a fantastic experience). They came on about midday and played a very unusual set. Lots of improvisation, jams, plus Your Fantasy, Assassins Of Allah, Space Is Their Palestine, Spirit Of The Age and Hippy. Can't remember how long they played but it must have been at least 90 minutes. Very spacey, infact it was reminiscent of the second set they played at Stonehenge in 1984 with everyone stoned and tripping out. Later that night they came on again just after 9 o'clock and played a set similar to the one at Pentrich Rock and Blues and lasted a little over 90 minutes. After there was a wonderful firework display. A great climax to a gem of a day and the stars were out in all their glory. Captain Rizz was there and joined the band onstage for both sets and really did a great job. Even Richard Chadwick got up for some vocals during the first set. Fantastic stuff!! We all had a great time and it all brought back memories of those free festivals in the 1980's. Thanks to Hawkwind and everyone else who got the event together. That's all for now All the best Age Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html From charlie.grant at LINEONE.NET Sat Aug 14 08:21:48 1999 From: charlie.grant at LINEONE.NET (Charlie Grant) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 13:21:48 +0100 Subject: tBS: POW not released yet? Message-ID: I was getting a bit worried having ordered tBS's POW over 3 weeks ago From: Gary Davis so I mailed him and got the following reply: > Sorry for the delay, but this album is not out yet (hence the reason you > haven't received it). I talked to Albert Bouchard who said he didn't > realize people would receive his catalog so quickly. At present he is > telling me that the CD will be out this month. As soon as I get it, yours > will be shipped. Any one got any idea when the release date is yet as I'm really looking forward to receiving some new stuff. Charlie Grant - Charles the Grinning Boy Charlie.Grant at lineone.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sat Aug 14 08:53:50 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 13:53:50 +0100 Subject: tBS: POW not released yet? In-Reply-To: <004b01bee650$d0b2bf20$ecfdabc3@preinstalledco> Message-ID: On Sat, 14 Aug 1999, Charlie Grant wrote: > Any one got any idea when the release date is yet as I'm really looking > forward to receiving some new stuff. I was wondering about that: the Cellsum on-line catalogue have it available and I thought someone would have got it by now if it had actually come out... Yours, Jon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Sat Aug 14 09:51:23 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 09:51:23 -0400 Subject: BOC: Reference in KISS movie rewiew Message-ID: >From the NY Times By Janet Maslin "Detroit Rock City" is a film in which teen-age Kiss worshipers prove that they will do anything, preferably anything nasty, to see the band they love. The idea might have promise if it had even a trace of self-mockery, but no such luck. Sample hagiographic dialogue: "You know, in 1973 Kiss was opening for Blue Oyster Cult. One year later, Blue Oyster Cult was opening for Kiss!" Nice to see BOC get a mention in a movie, even if it is a lousy movie, and a derrogatory statement. ;-) Then again, I guess BOC is no stranger to coverage in lousy movies! Brian From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Aug 14 12:29:10 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 12:29:10 EDT Subject: OFF: DELETE IF NOT ON AOL Message-ID: i know there's at least a couple AOLians amongst ye whom i havent contacted. there's been a variety of problems of late, esp last weekend, with not getting on, getting frequently knocked off, etc... not for all AOL types. but quite a few, incl. moi. well beginning at noon est/9am pacific, mci has begun a major repair job which will last no less than 24 hrs...if you dialed in before this started today, you probably got a box explaining this to click 'okay' to, and it listed an 888 number to use as an alternate "at no extra cost" or whatever. i called their tech # to confirm that, and i was told no, that 888 number ISNT free. he then gave me the free number: 1-800-352-3716 that's the number to use. so if you frequently spend too much time online, as i do, and you received that notice today, dont get burned by the "unfree" 888 number. and there you have it. "<>" From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Aug 14 20:48:36 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 20:48:36 -0400 Subject: Anubian Lights Message-ID: Dan said... >I purchased an Anubian Lights Remix cd at their show in Los Angeles. That >was about a month ago. Great stuff on it. Since I'm at work now, I don't >recall what the title is. It's certainly worth picking up. Dan, could you possibly get back to me with the title of this thing? There's absolutely no mention of it on-line anywhere. I guess it's not on Cleo/Hypnotic??? Also, can anyone tell me the release dates (years) for Bionaut's two releases, Au Naturel and Big Causeway to Gone? Much appreciated! Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Somebody is looking for a ride to SD'99 from Massachussetts. See message board at www.strange-trips.com if you want to help this guy out. From hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM Sat Aug 14 22:14:15 1999 From: hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM (Randy) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:14:15 -0500 Subject: Anubian Lights In-Reply-To: <199908150202.WAA04448@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Keith wrote: >Also, can anyone tell me the release dates (years) for Bionaut's two >releases, Au Naturel and Big Causeway to Gone? Au Naturel released 1996 tiny bubbles music Randy From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Sat Aug 14 22:24:33 1999 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 21:24:33 -0500 Subject: off: tape trade Message-ID: I have two mailings set to go for Nigel Kew, but I have lost his address and haven't got a response from a private email. Is he absent? I imagine this is jamming the tape swap up. Nigel email me if you read this, or if anybody knows what I should do email me. thanks From brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Aug 15 06:35:03 1999 From: brian at COULTHARD1.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Brian Coulthard) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 11:35:03 +0100 Subject: BADAM In-Reply-To: <199908150202.WAA04448@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Hello all I wondered if anyone knows anything about the BADAM 99 situation. Is it worth waiting to see if it is rescheduled or ahould I admit defeat and send off for a refund. I assume the Brixton dates have bit the dust as well. yours Brian From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Aug 15 09:21:46 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 14:21:46 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind Live In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990803165742.008ce2e0@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Aug 1999, Doug Pearson wrote: > I really > like the 'Live 1976' CD-R boot that came out last(?) year, too; that's > definitely a tour that needs "official" documentation (that will hopefully > sound better than the boot!) - is it still listed on the "coming soon" list > on the Mission Control page? The Neu-like version of "Uncle Sam's On Mars" > (nothing like either the version on 'PXR5' or the Hawklords version on the > Weird tape) is definitely worth the price of admission on that one, but > finally getting to hear "Time For Sale" was pretty revelatory too (with all > of Paul Rudolph's funky-bass playing), and hearing the verse of "Back On > The Streets" that's missing from the studio version was also cool. It's still "coming soon". I wonder what's happened to EBS. If they need some help, I need a job soon *:0) But I want that album to come out. I hadn't realised there was a boot of it. I may have to try and find that. Anything that restores my opinion of Rudolph after about 1975 would be worth having, but `Time For Sale' needs to be heard anyway. Oh well, it'll happen eventually I suppose, but if it will distract Dave from the new album trying to get this one out perhaps I should lay off. Yours, Jon From drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Aug 15 09:21:03 1999 From: drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM (Torgo Sedler) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 06:21:03 PDT Subject: tBS: POW not released yet? Message-ID: And now for something completely different........ A peek inside the mind of Torgo's mailman........ "Geez, there's that guy again. Man, are we gonna go through this shit again today? He's got a wild look in his eye, that one. OK, just dump the letters in the box and slowly move away. There we go, onto the next stop. Yep, looks like yesterday all over again. He slowly opens the box...... peeks inside....... and..... oops, must be whatever he wants isn't there again. Man, you'd think that post would break the way he is shaking it back and forth and screaming. Whoa, getting creative today are we, beating the mailbox with a large rock. Heh heh, there he goes, up the driveway tearing up letters and bills. Poor dope." Torgo was extremely bored this morning....... *********************************************** DrTorgo at hotmail.com http://welcome.to/torgos *********************************************** _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Aug 15 09:31:20 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 14:31:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: clearing out old albums In-Reply-To: <199908051457.PAA03533@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Aug 1999, bart wrote: > > => Electric Wizard - _Electric Wizard_ > > What do these guys sound like, out of curiosity ? I've seen CDs by them > (including a double) - wondered if they were sabbath clones or sub par doom > merchants /stoner / sludge whatever. Tim, the double CD is their first two albums reissued. The first, the original of which I am trying to flog still :-) is Sabbath-clonery par excellence, in that it's generally more-Sabbath-than-Sabbath in a slow stoned heavy way. Nothing too shabby, the first few tracks are a bit samey, relieved by the third which is a `Planet Caravan'-style affair only instrumental and much more trippy, and the last, self-titled, which is quite superb heavy stoner which takes all the Sabbath trade-mark tricks with it wherever it goes. The second one is a different kettle of fish. It's heavier, much slower, and much more powerful. A friend of mine described it as, "On the first album you can tell they're on some pretty good drugs. On the second one you change your mind - whatever these guys are on, you don't want any." It is, quite seriously, worth every penny of the ressiue price. They have a couple of split singles with Orange Goblin about, too, which I haven't heard, and an EP called _Supercoven_ which is two quarter- of-an-hour tracks of a suite which I've heard called an Electric Wizard take on Sleep's _Jerusalem_. They have a new one coming out some time called _Dopesick_, release date conditional I think on when Lee Dorian can kick them into a studio for long enough to get it finished. They should also be playing London some time in October, but they are notorious no-shows so I shall see who else is on the bill... > Also anybody heard stuff by Turbonegro ? One of there's going pretty cheap > near me too. No, I'll have to pass on that one. Hope all the above is some help anyhow... Yours, Jon From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Sun Aug 15 11:54:53 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 16:54:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: ROY HARPER US TOUR DATES Message-ID: Miss at your peril! USA TOUR DATES A handful of US gigs have been announced. A more extensive USA tour is planned for Spring 2000. THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 2 PORTLAND, OR Berbati's Pan 231 S.W. Ankeny venue no. (503) 248 4579 SATURDAY SEPTEMBER 4 EUGENE, OR WOW Hall Community Center for the Performing Arts 291 West 8th Avenue venue no. (541) 687 2746 SUNDAY SEPTEMBER 5 SEATTLE, WA Bumbershoot Festival PCC Northwest Court Stage presented by Odwalla 6:00-7:00pm WEDNESDAY SEPTEMBER 8 SAN LUIS OBISPO, CA SLO Brewing Co. 1119 Garden Street venue no. (805) 543 1843 THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 9 - TBC SAN FRANCISCO, CA Bottom Of The Hill 1233 17th Street venue no. (415) 626 9618 OR Slims venue no. (415) 522 0333 SAN FRANCISCO - TBC check back for any news FRIDAY SEPTEMBER 24 SANTA MONICA, CA McCabe's Guitar Shop 3101 Pico Blvd. venue no. (310) 828 Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "There's no walls in music. It's like water; there's currents." --Corey Harris From iscladoc at IDIR.NET Sun Aug 15 12:39:28 1999 From: iscladoc at IDIR.NET (Allan T Grohe Jr) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 11:39:28 -0500 Subject: off: _Aleutian_ anyone? Message-ID: Hey all-- I read an interesting review of the band Aleutian's _Frame Dragging_ (Esque label), and wanted to see if anyone could recommend them? The review makes comparisons to David Lynch's style of films. Here's a representative sample: "Although Aleutian employs numerous samples from artists such as Aphex Twuin and Massive Attack, its music maintains an organic quality tha tmany electronically enhanced acts find difficult to achieve. Much of the credit for this accomplishment goes to singer/guitarist Brad Prenda, whose phychedelic guitar work overpowers the ambient backdrops. The groups dual drummers, Onur Birsen and Steve Dobkowski, interact to powers Aleutian's rhymthmically unique choruses and counter melodies. "Because the of the group's complex song structures and dreamy sound, songs such as 'Madbury' can approach seven minutes without overstaying their welcome.... Aleutian should attract the ears of a diverse grou of music enthusiasts, with fans of Portishead, Pink Floyd and Sonic Youth all likely to be impressed by _Frame Dragging_." Anyone actually heard this album? Allan. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allan T. Grohe, Jr. Nomad of the Time Streams. Poet. iscladoc at idir.net Entropy Engineer. Outer God. Visit the Dreaming City: http://www.rpg.net/ehp/imrryr "When you're hiding 29 you know it ain't a crime to burn a little brighter now"--Marillion, "Torch Song" From mark.robertson at VIRGIN.NET Sun Aug 15 13:59:25 1999 From: mark.robertson at VIRGIN.NET (Mark Robertson) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 18:59:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Teeshirts found !!! Message-ID: Found this on the Demon.adverts newsgroup, might be of use to some one. Mark -----Original Message----- From: copro Newsgroups: demon.adverts Date: 15 August 1999 14:02 Subject: Vintage Hawkwind T shirts >A stock of vintage Hawkwind teeshirts has been found. >These are black with yellow logo. Logo reads Hawkwind , Doctor and the Medics , Pink Fairies etc. >Sizes small, medium, large (no extra large) >Price five UKP plus post and packing. > >Email teeshirts at panton.demon.co.uk >- - >teeshirts at panton.demon.co.uk From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Aug 15 17:43:42 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 17:43:42 EDT Subject: OFF/HW: "Space Does Not Care" Set-list Message-ID: "Space Does Not Care" 8/14/99, 88.3 KUCR FM, Saturdays 7-9pm PST, 909-787-KUCR 1.Hawkwind--Brainstorm/Hawkwind in Your Area/Brainstorm (In Your Area) 2.F/i--Looking for My Head 3.Can--Oh Yeah 4.Nik Turner--Strontium 90 5.The Orb--Pomme Fritz (Meat 'N Veg) 6.Pseudo Sun--Secrets of Infinity 7.Anubian Lights--Anubian Light Destiny 8.National Steam--Sorry, Earth's Not on the Itinerary 9.Hawkwind--Born to Go (orig. version from Greasy Truckers comp/Assassins of Allah boot) 10.The Brain--Morph 11.ST-37--Heather Catherine Tallchief 12.Zero Gravity--Interferon 13.Spacious Mind--Time Recircle 14.Melting Euphoria--Turkish Delight 15.Pink Floyd--Brain Damage/Eclipse 16.Dark Matter--Seeing Strange Lights (edit version from Ambient Time Travellers comp) Thanks, Chuck From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Aug 15 18:46:50 1999 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 23:46:50 +0100 Subject: BADAM Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Coulthard To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Sunday, August 15, 1999 11:35 AM Subject: Re: BADAM > I wondered if anyone knows anything about the BADAM 99 situation. > Is it worth waiting to see if it is rescheduled or ahould I admit defeat and > send off for a refund. I assume the Brixton dates have bit the dust as well. The current attempt is for Sept 18th at Buxton Opera House (ie indoor venue). If that doesn't happen then I think it's the end of it. The police need to know by this Wednesday if it's on or not, so I'd wait til then before doing anything. Apparently lots of people turned up who weren't aware it had been cancelled on the original date, The Brixton dates fall when Dave Brock is out of the country, so you can work that one out yourself! Neil. From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sun Aug 15 21:21:48 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 21:21:48 EDT Subject: Strange Daze 99/Hawkwind Fanzines Message-ID: Hello, Strange Daze 99 special note: I plan to attend this years festival, and as with the previous 2 events, I'll be handing out copies of the fanzine (Time & Space #7) at no cost, so if you're planning a trip this year, save your postage and look for me there. They will be given out while they last!!! bob http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From john.m.gray at CWIX.COM Mon Aug 16 00:37:53 1999 From: john.m.gray at CWIX.COM (John Gray) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 21:37:53 -0700 Subject: Strange Daze 99/Hawkwind Fanzines Message-ID: Bob, I can't make it but I would like a copy of the mag, please let me know how much and where to send payment. Thanks, John Gray ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Lennon To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Sunday, August 15, 1999 6:21 PM Subject: Strange Daze 99/Hawkwind Fanzines > Hello, > Strange Daze 99 special note: I plan to attend this years festival, and as > with the previous 2 events, I'll be handing out copies of the fanzine (Time & > Space #7) at no cost, so if you're planning a trip this year, save your > postage and look for me there. They will be given out while they last!!! > bob > > http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html > From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 16 08:04:51 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 13:04:51 +0100 Subject: HW: That Ken Kesey Edinburgh gig Message-ID: I got an announcement for this gig in the post. It seems that Jason Pierce is bringing Spiritualised back together for a repeat of last year's concert with the classical composer Steve Martland. So it's not a normal Spiritualised gig. There's no mention of Hawkwind at all, so I presume that any negotiations fell through. Dave. From p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU Mon Aug 16 09:47:19 1999 From: p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU (Peter Sondergeld) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:47:19 +1000 Subject: BOC: Oz Tour? In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990816130224.0098adc0@pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: I was talking to Troy Harris the other day, whom some might remember as a former BOC-Ler, who told me that a friend of his has been in touch with some Oz promoters about bringing BOC Downunder. I don't want to put the mockers on it, but apparently there is some interest and maybe, just maybe, there is hope that something could happen. No other details available at this stage. Pete :) ObCD: BOC - Imaginos From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sun Aug 15 07:06:37 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 12:06:37 +0100 Subject: OFF: The Lizard Festival Message-ID: This cropped up on the "Wire" mailing list, and I thought it might be of some general interest. Interesting statistic at the end as well. ChrisW > >From: Vince Millett > >Hi. I've been lurking for quite a while without saying anything on this >list but as a few people have mentioned eclipses I thought I'd give a >brief report on the Lizard Festival and our gig there. > >Overall the festival was a shambles in terms of organisation. There were >something like 16 stages and for the first couple of days (and all night) >there seemed to be a diet of nothing but hard trance of the most minimalist >type. Believe me, after about twenty hours of continuous monotonous >kick-drum you'd kill to hear something with some melody. It seems a lot of >bands didn't get paid but we were paid in cash before we even played. > >There was some good music - Femi Kuti, Juno Reactor with Amapondo >(unbelievable!), The Drummers of Burundi, Future Loop Foundation, Amoeba >Assasins, Alex Patterson, Bipolar and of course us , Secret Archives of the >Vatican, among many many others. We played under the Sitarfunk banner and >did a set that emphasised the Indian side of our music with live sitar and >tablas, DJd backing tracks, live guitar and keys. We were pleased to see >lots of people dancing and there were people calling for more at the end (a >new experience for us!). It was fun. > >The eclipse itself was amazing. There was total cloud cover and just as the >eclipse started a little hole appeared right in front of the sun and we saw >the whole thing. We were directly on the line of totality so it got very >cold and went dark for a couple of minutes. It was quite spooky actually. >Vince Millett >Secret Archives of the Vatican/Broken Drum Records >vince.millett at ndirect.co.uk or brokendrum at ndirect.co.uk > Website: http://www.brokendrum.ndirect.co.uk > >In 1998 there were 31,800 albums released in the US. Of those, only 192 >sold in quantities of 100,000 or >more. "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Aug 16 14:19:53 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 14:19:53 -0400 Subject: HW: Eclipse Party & SD'99 Message-ID: Age said... >Got back from Cornwall yesterday after a few days in the great outdoors. >Got to Carleen and found the site after about 20 minutes. >Hawkwind played twice at the party. The first set was just after the total >eclipse (which was obscured by cloud unfortunately, though it went >completely dark and was a fantastic experience). Obscured by Clouds? They played some Pink Floyd covers? :) Everything about this (and the Derby) event sounds great! Nice to see that the band still exists at least! So the big question...was there any professional-looking recording (audio and/or video) going on at either of these shows? For us poor folks on the wrong side of the pond. That said, I'm getting excited about SD'99, now that it's just a handful of days away! There's every reason to come, HW or not. Nik will be there with Farflung. Anyone who hears that he's cancelled his US appearance should note that although a couple warmup shows have gone by the wayside this week, he will be on stage with Farflung (and also as Anubian Lights) this Saturday night. As far as Friday goes, Helios Creed will headline now instead of the Tribe of Cro of course. Alien Planetscapes has now elected to remain in their spot on Saturday, so there's still an opening on Friday early evening. Based on my suggestions, Jim is talking with two bands who are now the top candidates. Both are excellent and I'm happy to have made some input...hope you like them. I should know by tomorrow who the replacement will be. For those who haven't come before, there's several things to note. I don't think there's any alcohol sales on site, so unless you want to make trips to civilization after arriving, bring your own. And no glass bottles are allowed, which means only crappy beer is acceptable! There were several food vendors last year that were quite good, and rather popular. I'll probably bring a little of my own stuff, but it's not absolutely necessary to haul a side of beef or anything. Bring your swimsuits...the lake is very refreshing after all the hot sun that we normally get. Watch out for the toilets...I hope there's some improvement since last year, but they're a little rancid. The out-of-the-way portapotties seemed to be the cleanest. There's photos and maps to the site at www.nlqp.com. I hope to see you all there...should be another outstanding event. The weekend passes are $50 (at least they were in advance...I'm not sure what the gate price will be on Friday). If you arrive Saturday during the day, you will get in for $35, which allows you to camp over to Sunday also I believe. But you should definitely come early! Helios and the as-yet-unnamed band should not be missed! :) Keith H. (FAA) From mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM Mon Aug 16 18:59:59 1999 From: mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM (Marc Power) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 18:59:59 -0400 Subject: StrangeDaze 99 and BØRN to GØ Message-ID: Remember SpaceRockers, Come and say hi to us when we play the third glorious SD99 festival, 3-4:30pm on Saturday 21st August 1999. Three days of Peace, Love and Space! We have some great new Heavy Cozmic SpaceRock songs for you to hear. If you want a preview of some of the new stuff we are gonna play at the show, check out our rough demos here: See you there! Marc and the crew. From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Mon Aug 16 19:10:06 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 19:10:06 EDT Subject: Strange Daze 99/Hawkwind Fanzines Message-ID: In a message dated 8/15/99 9:38:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, john.m.gray at CWIX.COM writes: << Bob, I can't make it but I would like a copy of the mag, please let me know how much and where to send payment. Thanks, John Gray >> issue #7 is available for a postage donation. $1.21 within the U.S., 2 IRC's from Canada, and 4 IRC's from rest of world send to : Bob Lennon Time & Space 503 S. Warminster Rd. F-2 Hatboro, PA 19040 USA From erics at TELEPRES.COM Mon Aug 16 23:07:11 1999 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 23:07:11 -0400 Subject: HW: Eclipse Party & SD'99 In-Reply-To: <199908161932.PAA17787@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> from "Keith Henderson" at Aug 16, 99 02:19:53 pm Message-ID: Keith Henderson wrote: > And no glass bottles are > allowed [at Strange Daze], which means only crappy beer is acceptable! This is for real. They search all coolers at the gate; if you have bottled beer, you have to decant it into some other container, or leave it at the gate baking in the sun and maybe getting ripped off. I'd be annoyed by a customs-check attitude like this, except that they're enforcing a rule I quite agree with -- it's the glass that's banned after all, not the beer... -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / I'm going to change it, but it's going to take some time. - Linus Torvalds, on Windows's market leadership From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Tue Aug 17 03:52:17 1999 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff and Pam Wheaton) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 01:52:17 -0600 Subject: Dawn of HW! Message-ID: I just got my copy in the mail today!! Unfortunately I've not been paying attention. Where are these tracks from again??? I KNOW i've got them on tape somewhere in the stack in the other room, but I'm too tired right now to go look! I *really* like the way this is done, too! What a neat idea with the book & all! Thanks for the info in advance!!! Pam From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Aug 17 06:11:39 1999 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:11:39 +0100 Subject: HW: Eclipse Party Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Henderson To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 7:19 PM Subject: HW: Eclipse Party & SD'99 > Everything about this (and the Derby) event sounds great! Nice to see that > the band still exists at least! > > So the big question...was there any professional-looking recording (audio > and/or video) going on at either of these shows? For us poor folks on the > wrong side of the pond. > Cornwall was recorded on minidisc from the mixing desk, and something may come of it. Some of the gig was also video taped. I believe Derby R&B was also video taped. Neil. From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Tue Aug 17 08:33:54 1999 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 13:33:54 +0100 Subject: HW: MOJO Message-ID: Dear boclers, I have just got the September edition of Mojo, and they have finally got around to doing a piece on HW. Only read the 1st half, but it is quite good, with quotes from Lemmy, Dave, Nik, Doug, and with some new as well as well known photos. Mike w From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Aug 17 07:01:21 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 12:01:21 +0100 Subject: HW: That Ken Kesey Edinburgh gig In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990816130224.0098adc0@pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <4.1.19990816130224.0098adc0 at pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk>, Dave Berry writes >I got an announcement for this gig in the post. It seems that Jason Pierce >is bringing Spiritualised back together for a repeat of last year's concert >with the classical composer Steve Martland. So it's not a normal >Spiritualised gig. As I understand, its Jason as "Spiritualised" but none of the erstwhile members of the band. He will be ably assisted by Julian Cope's keyboard lunatic ThighPaulSandra (which is nice), and yeah, they're doing the aavnt garde/Martland stuff not Shine A Light etc. >There's no mention of Hawkwind at all, so I presume >that any negotiations fell through. :( -- Jon From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Aug 17 09:26:43 1999 From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 14:26:43 +0100 Subject: Eclipse Party Message-ID: Hello folks I was just wondering if anyone has any photos from the Carleen Eclipse Party last week. Just about to start a review of the event for loading up on the Hawkeye website and would be great to include some pics. I'd be really grateful for any assistance here. You can contact me at: age.p at conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk Look forward to hearing from you All the best Age Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Aug 17 11:40:10 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 11:40:10 -0400 Subject: HW: Cyberspace Interview Message-ID: Hi Folks... Just noticed that Dale's got an announcement up on www.hawkwind.com asking for questions to be submitted for NikT. Nice to see actual activity coming back to the site. Keith H. (FAA) From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Aug 17 17:15:31 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 21:15:31 GMT Subject: OFF: Re: HW: Spotted/Dr Hasbeen/Electric Wizard In-Reply-To: <199908061709.RAA15103@firewall.peritech.co.uk> Message-ID: Mark Lee wrote: >PS. It's Martyns birthday soon so Dr Hasbeen will be playing >at The Victoria, Derby on Fri 20th, The good news is IT'sSFREE. > >See ya there Andy ;-) Maybe :) Yup :) after over a month waiting for some dole, it's turned up today. AND i've talked a mate into coming along on Friday. :) btw, the first thing i bought with my new found riches was lovely shiny vinyl discs. And the first of these was Electric Wizard's 'Supercoven'. BLOODY HELL! i've got their first and have heard som other stuff, but this is utterly colossal! The bass sound is bloody enormous and the guitar's flanged off the face of the planet. This is pretty amazing stuff. anyway. andrew From Mariej at BIGWIG.NET Tue Aug 17 17:49:54 1999 From: Mariej at BIGWIG.NET (Marie Jenkinson) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:49:54 +0100 Subject: HW: Cornwall Message-ID: Hi all, Now that I've finally recovered from the 8 hour drive down to the week long party in Carleen and the 14 hour drive home on Friday, here's the complete picture of the Eclipse gig. Setting off at 6.00pm on Sunday night, the drive down was reasonable, once the traffic on the M1 and M42 had been left behind. The weather, it rained for most of the 8 hours drive down, didn't look too promising for Wednesday's solar show. Carleen was easy to find - although the campsite was very elusive. After driving round Carleen in pitch darkness for about 20 minutes, no doubt freaking out all the neighbourhood watch schemes, we found the site. 10 minutes later, we found ourselves directing Jerry, Richard and Rizz, in their convoy from Devon, onto the site - also lost. (I thought that the Summer Daze site in Langtree was out of the way!) The rain managed to hold off for half an hour - long enough to pitch up the tent, break out a beer and catch up with a few people that were still up. Then - time for a few hours kip before the fun really began. Monday was fairly dull with the odd heavy shower. Popped into Helston for petrol - nightmare, traffic everywhere so vowed not to venture out of the campsite again until it was time to go home. Spent the rest of the day and night milling around catching up with the band and friends down there, chilling out and drinking loads as there was little else to do around there. Tuesday was glorious, absolutely baking hot for most of the day. An exploration of the nearby Tregonning Hill - to check out the vantage point for the eclipse - proved to be interesting. After an assault course over cattle water feeders, five foot high walls, brambles and public footpaths that hadn't seen a walker in years, the view from the top of the hill was spectacular - and the walk back down turned into a stomp through bracken and brambles over seven feet high - I was assured that this was a 'path' down the hill - a rabbit path maybe. With rumours flying round the site that Hawkwind may play a set - off to the marquee in the next field. Sadly - thanks to the trouble in Truro (riot police attacking festival goers with tear gas etc) is seemed better to forget that plan in case of trouble. The night sky looked pretty spectacular - looking good for the Persids meteor shower that peaked on Thursday night. Wednesday - the second most hyped day ever - and it's cloudy. It was overcast, it got dark really quick and then brightened up again. Still a pretty creepy lightshow though. The noise of people cheering and the blinding camera flashes (not quite sure what they were hoping to photograph though) were on all sides. The eclipse was quickly followed by Hawkwind on stage for the afternoon taster. The afternoon session was a great taste of things to come. Basically, it was a loose jam session with some cracking highlights. Spirit of the Age was mind blowing - shivers down the spine etc - great to hear that played live with Ron giving his all on the Calvert vocals. Assassins of Allah / Space is their Palestine - always a crowd pleaser, with Rizz and Ron on main vocals. Fantasy - a good number from the last tour. The best track was probably Hippy, since I've been dying to hear that live ever since listening to 'Hawkwind in your Area' and was annoyed to hear that I'd missed it during the sound check at Pentrich. Also - lots of impro stuff - including a really good track with Richard on vocals, something to do with the moon, sleep and love (a bit vague there I'm afraid due to various excesses throughout the day) Ron also read out a poem - sounded like some sort of body part checklist but again a bit vague here. With the dancer working away on and off stage accompanied by fluorescent feathers, paint and the huge painted 'man' from the Alien tour, there was plenty to see on stage and off. And this was just the warm up set!! The evening slot started around 9.30 - 10.00 Here's the full set list for the evening slot - according to Jerry anyway, and he should know! Aerospaceage Inferno Wage War Motorway City Assault and Battery Golden Void Alchemy Anna Seed Utopia Ron's Poem (no title on this) Assassins / Space is Their Palestine Love in Space Brainstorm Encore - Ejection Gremlin pt 2 The set list was pretty much the same as Pentrich - although they dropped Sonic Attack and Blue Skin - adding Ejection with Mr Dibs guesting on bass. The new song - Anna Seed was a pretty slow trippy instrumental, a welcome breather after the heady Alchemy. Fantastic to hear classic songs resurrected such as Motorway City and Utopia - being fairly new to the Hawkscene I'd never seen those played live. The marquee was packed with very happy people, all enjoying the crowning point of the day (far better that watching the sky go dark for a few minutes) The set was bloody loud too - far louder than Pentrich I thought and, sadly, the vocals tended to distort occasionally too - still, a great job by the sound guys considering it was in a field in the middle of nowhere. Nice to see Jerry doing a fair bit of backing vocal work. Mitzi did an excellent job of the dancing, considering the extreme lack of space on the two flatbed trucks that formed the stage. With the fire act at the back of the marquee as well - great show. Once Hawkwind had finished - off to the fireworks and shooting stars overhead. There were rumours of another set by the band, however, this was not to be. The ensuing rave finally had the plug pulled at around 2.00AM - apparently someone had complained to the police and the site was contacted - end of rave.Thursday - wind down, party loads and look forward to the long, long drive back home. Everyone I spoke to really enjoyed themselves - including the band. Fun was had by all. Finally - many thanks to Hawkwind, Kris and best wishes to all who were there. Simply one of the best weeks of my life and I'm glad that I was fortunate enough to be there and share the experience with so many great people. 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Further proof positive to my argument that the theremin is *not* a musical instrument but verily a weapon of war! and a scorching new Bari Watts track amongst others so... any takers for bits of the interview? andrew From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Aug 17 19:19:12 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:19:12 EDT Subject: HW: Interview in Ptolemaic Terrascope Message-ID: In a message dated 8/17/99 6:02:01 PM, andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: << so... any takers for bits of the interview? andrew >> yessuh, puh-leeze "<>" From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Tue Aug 17 20:47:59 1999 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 19:47:59 -0500 Subject: Off:Salamander Message-ID: Tour starts 9-16-99 in Minneapolis. See http://www.skyeklad.com/gig.html From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Aug 17 22:17:04 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 02:17:04 GMT Subject: HW: Interview in Ptolemaic Terrascope In-Reply-To: Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: >so... any takers for bits of the interview? > >>yessuh, puh-leeze >>"<>" hokay, i'll oil me typin joints and get on w/it in the nex coupla daze andrew From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Wed Aug 18 15:01:35 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:01:35 GMT Subject: Ptolemaic Terrascope 27 Dave Brock Interview Part I Message-ID: okay, here's the first bit i typed in: Deepest Devon, Summer 1998 PT: You were born in Isleworth, West London and started playing the banjo in Jazz bands. Unearth your past! DB: Where shall I start? My uncle Maurice gave me a banjo when I was about thirteen. I couldn't play it properly, of course, but I used to plonk about on it and then my parents bought me a guitar when I was fourteen. I used to like jazz - it was quite popular in the '50s. From then on I learned to play the banjo and started playing with some friends and we got together our own New Orleans Jazz band. I preferred New Orleans jazz as it was a lot pokier and more powerful than Dixieland. PT: Do you come from a musical family? Well Uncle Maurice was musical, he used to be the choir master at Newport Pagnell? Stony Stratford? No it wasn't [deep thought] New Bradwell, near Wolverton in Buckinghamshire. I'm just getting my brain working this morning. But we used to have our little band and would play a few clubs for nothing and nothing fantastic ever came of it [laughs]. That was the Gravnier Street Jazz Band. Did it lead to anything though? Well, I used to play in a club in Twickenham called Eel Pie Island, which was a very famous jazz club, quite a big place. I played in the interval with a friend of mine, a piano player called Mike King. Mike was, probably still is, a wonderful piano player who'd learned his stuff from Pete Johnson, a famous boogie piano player, in Canada for a few years, so he had this fantastic style. In the course of the intervals, initially jazz then blues, we played with Memphis Slim, Champion Jack Dupree, Sonny Boy Williamson and other famous blues characters. You lived in Amsterdam at one time. I lived in Amsterdam for a while and busked on the streets there. I went there with my friend Pete Judd who had an old Mercedes car. We used to sleep on in the back, the other in the front - very uncomfortable and jolly cold. Eventually we got a flat thereand played with a wonderful piano player called Rob Hooker and a Dutch player called Boy Van Delden. We played at the Harlem Blues Festival, which I have a LP of which is a bit scratchy! I then lived in Putney where Bob Kerr had a music shop at the end of the street - Gwalior Road, Putney. I was busking in London and decided to get a band together. Bob kindly let us his basement, which was a very small room where we rehearsed with Mick Slattery, and occasionally in my back room which annoyed all the neighbours - the whole street used to hear us playing! By then it was what, 1966? The late 60's, 1966 or '67. I frequented Middle Earth, a psychedelic club. We used to have Arthur Brown and various playing there which was very good. I think we played as "the Famous Cure" in some of these clubs, I vaguely remember we had our own band playing psychedelia. I toured Holland in 1967 with a circus, a rock and roll circus called Tent 67. We were the B-band or warm-up band before they had the famous Dutch bands playing. One night, or maybe we didn't [long pause], not every night. We used to stay in one place 2-3 days and then take the tent down and move on to the next place. It was a long time ago.... more to follow.. andrew From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Aug 19 09:52:44 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:52:44 -0400 Subject: HW: Nik in Chicago? Message-ID: Hi Folks... Gee, it's quiet today. Or is the list down for the moment? Anyway, if there are any folks here in the Windy City vicinity, there has appeared the rumor that Nik Turner and Farflung may be performing tonight (Thursday) at J.J. Kelleys in Lansing, IL (South Side), as a warmup show for Strange Daze. You should call first most definitely. Keith H. (FAA) From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Aug 19 11:24:46 1999 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:24:46 -0500 Subject: HW: Nik in Chicago? In-Reply-To: <199908191506.LAA08725@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 19 Aug 1999, Keith Henderson wrote: :Subject: HW: Nik in Chicago? : :Hi Folks... : :Gee, it's quiet today. Or is the list down for the moment? : :Anyway, if there are any folks here in the Windy City vicinity, there has :appeared the rumor that Nik Turner and Farflung may be performing tonight :(Thursday) at J.J. Kelleys in Lansing, IL (South Side), as a warmup show for :Strange Daze. : :You should call first most definitely. Damn. ...and I would be busy tonight. If anyone goes, post a review to the list. Arin ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #305A Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From mxw at DMU.AC.UK Thu Aug 19 11:31:26 1999 From: mxw at DMU.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:31:26 +0100 Subject: OTHER HUW LLoyd Langton In-Reply-To: <199908190912.JAA03873@macondo.dmu.ac.uk> Message-ID: I saw a message about Huw gigging on friday in Hendon and also in Oxford on saturday - not thinking I could make it - which I now can - does anyone know the name & location for the festival where he is playing on the saturday in Oxford (apparently on stage at 4pm) - also any costs for this brief sojourn... Rgards Pleas reply to maxine.wesley at port.ac.uk M at xine The night shall be filled with music And the cares that infest the day Shall fold their tents like arabs And as silently steal away. H.W. Longfellow Honda VF400 From senator at UGCS.CALTECH.EDU Thu Aug 19 12:11:53 1999 From: senator at UGCS.CALTECH.EDU (Bill Bradley) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:11:53 -0700 Subject: HW: Nik in Pittsburgh? In-Reply-To: from Arin Komins at "Aug 19, 1999 10:24:46 am" Message-ID: > :Anyway, if there are any folks here in the Windy City vicinity, there has > :appeared the rumor that Nik Turner and Farflung may be performing tonight > :(Thursday) at J.J. Kelleys in Lansing, IL (South Side), as a warmup show for > :Strange Daze. > : > :You should call first most definitely. Is Nik playing regularly with Farflung? They're going to be in Pittsburgh on Monday with Flying Luttenbachers, Arab on Radar and Threnody Ensamble on Monday. And tonight is Tribe of Cojoin, Alien Planetscape and Fields-Houle- Roebke Trio. Years of nothing, then most of Strange Daze comes to visit... Bill From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Aug 19 11:34:08 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 11:34:08 -0400 Subject: HW: Nik in Pittsburgh? Message-ID: Bill said... > Is Nik playing regularly with Farflung? They're going to be in >Pittsburgh on Monday with Flying Luttenbachers, Arab on Radar and Threnody >Ensamble on Monday. Hmmm..really?? I didn't hear about that one. Well, there were supposed to be a whole week of dates here this past week, from Ca. to Ohio, but all but this one in Illinois were scrapped due to an intended conflict with Nik in the UK. But I guess Tommy must have got this show in Pittsburgh together just recently. Does anyone know about any more? > And tonight is Tribe of Cojoin, Alien Planetscape and Fields-Houle- >Roebke Trio. Where's this show at? And who is Tribe of Cojoin? You don't really mean Tribe of Cro (or should I say, Tribe of Noshow), do you? > Years of nothing, then most of Strange Daze comes to visit... You should still come to Ohio for the weekend...the weather will be great to be outdoors! Keith H. (FAA) From stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM Thu Aug 19 12:59:59 1999 From: stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:59:59 -0400 Subject: HW: Back to this side of the Pond - Derby/SD Message-ID: Right, well I made it ! Could only read email while I was in the UK and been hectic catching up when I first got back, and tomorrow we're off to Strange Daze so I'd better write this now ! So you travel 3000 miles for a festival, and they cancel the damn thing...... Not a good start to the holiday....... Thanks to the wonders of boc-l and some excellent helpful posts from Kris and Jill (thankyou both wherever you are), I was able to figure out in short time where the hell HW were playing, and make alternative plans (just) in time ! So Derby Rock & Blues turned out to be a very fine thing once we'd got there. Hawkwind were great, really damn good. It was great to see them play in front of a laaaaaarge crowd (there were at least 10,000 in the audience at that point and I could almost believe the organizers claimed 15,000) Most of the bands stuck to the "hits", never a bad idea in front of a crowd of bikers.... Our boys on the other hand came out and were just plain downright wierd and strange, in other words everything you'd want them to be. The sight of Ron reading a poem that probably 3 people recognised (not me at the time I'm ashamed to note) from a scroll while wearing a fluorescent dayglo outfit combined with god knows what on his head, as the second song of the set, well that set a pretty adventurous tone. I got the impression that Rons been practising more than a little, he seems to be playing more adventurous bass now, I think I even remember a bass solo of sorts in AerospaceAge Inferno. High spot was Utopia, utterly brilliant maybe even more relevant today than when it was written. They couldn't get projections out front (too big a crowd) so there were some projections from the side of the stage which were a little dim, too make up for that we got heavy involvement of the dancers and props, excellent work there I must say, don't want to give away all of the tricks but there was some really imaginative stuff that again probably had half the crowd going "what the f..." and the other half going "Woooaahh". Maybe this is more standard on recent UK tours, but we haven't normally had the dancers on the American side of the pond, so very interesting to see... Great set, pity about the curfew, lets see you're Hawkwind playing in front of a field full of bikers, and its time to pick an encore..... hmm tough choice... I realised from descriptions of Cornwall that Capn Rizz wasn't at Derby, maybe they figured the Reggae wasn't going to fit in as well for the biker crowd. Saw Richard & Jerry at breakfast, they looked pretty knackered, but pleased with themselves. Of course I forgot to say anything intelligent, like "Come and see us in Canada sometime...." I was quite suprised at the size of the Derby festival (Buxton was only supposed to be 5,000 people tops) and the organization (bikers with walky talkies !) I would go again, and if you're a motorbike fan then you'd be in seventh heaven I would think. Didn't manage to meetup with any of you UK boc-lers which was a pity, but given the upheaval hardly suprising. Jill I did hang out by the beer tent (Oh go on, force me !) a bit but didn't see you. I had acquired a broken hand just before leaving, so if you saw someone with a cast on his left hand that was almost certainly me. The Stranglers were playing the next night and I was having fun, so decided to stay rather than drive to Newcastle and see Bedouin (sorry Alan, next time !) So now its off to Strange Daze, I've got the cast off now ! If anyone doesn't know who some of us loonies are (and wants too ?), I'd suggest finding Kieth and Jerry at the Aural Innovations booth (and if you're not subscribed to this fine publication - you should be!) and they can probably point out all sorts of poeple. See you there ! Steve L From flossbac at NLCI.COM Thu Aug 19 13:05:07 1999 From: flossbac at NLCI.COM (flossbac) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:05:07 -0500 Subject: HW: Nik in Chicago? Message-ID: It's true-- Nik is playing at J.J. Kelleys in Lansing IL at 10:00 pm tonight for the low price of $10.00. I intend to be there. Is anyone else from the list attending this show? John Majka flossbac at nlci.com > Anyway, if there are any folks here in the Windy City vicinity, there has > appeared the rumor that Nik Turner and Farflung may be performing tonight > (Thursday) at J.J. Kelleys in Lansing, IL (South Side), as a warmup show for > Strange Daze. > > You should call first most definitely. > > Keith H. (FAA) > From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Aug 19 13:26:04 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:26:04 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond Tour Dates Message-ID: >From http://www.flydaddy.com/ September 16 - New London / TAZ 17 - Boston / TT the Bears 18 - Philadelphia / Khyber (Insidious Spectacle Festival) 19 - Wash DC / tba 21 - Baltimore / tba 22 - Pittsburgh / Carnegie Mellon University 23 - Rochester / Bug Jar 24 - Bowling Green / Howard's Club House 25 - Detroit / tba 26 - Knoxville / Tomato Head 27 - Atlanta / Echo Lounge 28 - New Orleans / Mermaid 30 - Ft. Worth / Ridglea Theater (w 7% Solution) October 1 - Houston / Mary Jane's (w 7% Solution) 2 - Austin / Ritz Lounge (w 7% Solution) 5 - Los Angeles / Spaceland 6 - San Francisco / Great American Music Hall 7 - Sacramento / Old Ironsides 8 - Eugene / Univ. of Oregon 9 - Portland / tba 13 - Minneapolis / 400 Bar 14 - Chicago / Empty Bottle (w 7% Solution) 15 - Madison / Union South Club 770 (w 7% Solution) 16 - Cleveland / Speak in Tongues 17 - Toronto / Horseshoe 19 - Northampton / Iron Horse 20 - NYC / Knitting Factory Also, the new Frond Live CD recorded in San Francisco will be out Sept. 28. Primordial Undermind's gig in Rochester is the day after the Frond show. I can't wait! -Brian -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Aug 19 12:50:28 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 12:50:28 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond, etc. Message-ID: Brian said... >September >22 - Pittsburgh / Carnegie Mellon University >24 - Bowling Green / Howard's Club House >October >16 - Cleveland / Speak in Tongues Cool!! I love multiple options! Will Ade be touring with them this time? >October >14 - Chicago / Empty Bottle (w 7% Solution) >15 - Madison / Union South Club 770 (w 7% Solution) Hey, 7% Solution is damn good. (Might even be worth the trip to Chicago.) They must be doing some sort of tour on their own as well, since I know they're planning to play at the CMJ festival in NYC next month. I'll post their complete schedule if and when I receive it. For those that don't know them, you should track down the first CD, 'All about spaceships and satellites' I think it's called. It's extremely good! A bit dreamier than classic space rock, but any Hawkfan should enjoy it. Their latest, Gabriel's Waltz, I like very much also, though it's closer to the same sound as Porcupine Tree's newest. Actually, I think it's better than Stupid Dream, but then, some of you probably think that's not saying much! :) Another show for New Yorkers...Walk On Water (Detroit) is playing at the Continental club next Wednesday night (8/15). They're a really cool high-energy psychedelic band. Perhaps halfway between classic Detroit style (eg., MC5) and 90s stoner rock (without the sludge). They will also return for the CMJ fest next month. Keith H. (FAA) P.S. On SD'99...it seems that the two bands I recommended for filling in for Tribe of Cro couldn't make it this Friday....so it appears Nucleon might step in and take the spot. I'm happy with that...I saw them two months' ago, and thought they had improved a lot (better new songs!) since last year's SD, when I thought they were just 'alright.' Of course, it was 95? at that point, and I was burned out by then, so perhaps I wasn't quite in the right mood for Nucleon then. P.P.S. Nice to see you're back in time for SD'99, Mr. Lindsay. We need you to tell us your new address man, since the last issue got returned to us! We owe you one...see us at SD'99...probably same place, bigger table? Bigger issues, definitely. And more CDs to purchase!! Bring your cash! :) From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Aug 19 14:36:09 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 14:36:09 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond, etc. In-Reply-To: <199908191804.OAA02094@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Keith wrote: >>September >>22 - Pittsburgh / Carnegie Mellon University >>24 - Bowling Green / Howard's Club House >>October >>16 - Cleveland / Speak in Tongues > >Cool!! I love multiple options! Will Ade be touring with them this time? I'm not positive, but I assume he'll be on board. >>October >>14 - Chicago / Empty Bottle (w 7% Solution) >>15 - Madison / Union South Club 770 (w 7% Solution) > >Hey, 7% Solution is damn good. (Might even be worth the trip to Chicago.) >They must be doing some sort of tour on their own as well, since I know >they're planning to play at the CMJ festival in NYC next month. I'll post >their complete schedule if and when I receive it. Their tourdates are also listed at the Flydaddy site. Didn't post them because I didn't know who they were. Thanks for the info! >For those that don't know them, you should track down the first CD, 'All >about spaceships and satellites' I think it's called. It's extremely good! >A bit dreamier than classic space rock, but any Hawkfan should enjoy it. >Their latest, Gabriel's Waltz, I like very much also, though it's closer to >the same sound as Porcupine Tree's newest. Actually, I think it's better >than Stupid Dream, but then, some of you probably think that's not saying >much! :) Brian obSONG> "House of Mountains" -Bevis Frond From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Thu Aug 19 15:25:30 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:25:30 +0100 Subject: HW/OFF: LLOYD LANGTON GROUP GIG- general info Message-ID: HUW IS ALSO HEADLINING A FESTIVAL IN OXFORD FOR RESTORE (MENTAL HEALTH CHARITY) FOLLOWING DATE 21ST AUGUST - AFTERNOON GIG ON MAIN STAGE 4 PM) - SEE ATTACHED WORD FILE KINDEST REGARDS MARION Hi, not having Word on this machine, could someone post the details from this file please? Oxford's not too far away and I'm actually around this weekend, for a change. Nick From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Aug 19 15:02:31 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 15:02:31 -0400 Subject: HW/OFF: LLOYD LANGTON GROUP GIG Message-ID: Nick asked... >HUW IS ALSO HEADLINING A FESTIVAL IN OXFORD FOR RESTORE (MENTAL HEALTH >CHARITY) FOLLOWING DATE 21ST AUGUST - AFTERNOON GIG ON MAIN STAGE 4 PM) - >SEE ATTACHED WORD FILE > >not having Word on this machine, could someone post the details from this >file please? Oxford's not too far away and I'm actually around this >weekend, for a change. Yeah, if you send it to me, I'll do it. henderson.120 at osu.edu Just don't forward it to the list as an attachment! I searched for it (or any info about this gig) at David Graham's site, but came up empty. http://www.datasync.com/~davidg59/huw.html Does he have any other site(s)? Keith H. (FAA) From kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET Thu Aug 19 16:19:58 1999 From: kevin.perry at VIRGIN.NET (Kevin Perry) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 21:19:58 +0100 Subject: OTHER HUW LLoyd Langton Message-ID: Any idea anyone what time he starts on Friday night? Kevin Perry Sonic Energy Authority http://freespace.virgin.net/kevin.perry/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Maxine Wesley To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 4:31 PM Subject: Re: OTHER HUW LLoyd Langton > I saw a message about Huw gigging on friday in Hendon and also in Oxford > on saturday - not thinking I could make it - which I now can - does anyone > know the name & location for the festival where he is playing > on the saturday in Oxford (apparently > on stage at 4pm) - also any costs for this brief sojourn... > > Rgards > Pleas reply to maxine.wesley at port.ac.uk > > M at xine > > > > The night shall be filled with music > And the cares that infest the day > Shall fold their tents like arabs > And as silently steal away. > H.W. Longfellow Honda VF400 From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu Aug 19 16:26:41 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:26:41 EDT Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond, etc. Message-ID: not sure if this was mentioned on this list yet, but during a VH1 show (I think it's called) where are they now??? they had country joe Mcdonald on and they flashed the new Bevis cd on the screen and mentioned it, as bevis & country joe just collaborated on this cd, I guess Nick will go Platinum this time round? bob http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Aug 19 17:23:28 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:23:28 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bevis Frond, etc. In-Reply-To: <17f1d842.24edc281@aol.com> Message-ID: Yeah, with the hep star power of Country Joe in today's market, Platinum is a given. ;-) Hard to believe BOC and Bevis Frond would be involved in Where Are They Now? in the same month. >not sure if this was mentioned on this list yet, but during a VH1 show (I >think it's called) where are they now??? they had country joe Mcdonald on and >they flashed the new Bevis cd on the screen and mentioned it, as bevis & >country joe just collaborated on this cd, I guess Nick will go Platinum this >time round? >bob >http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Aug 19 20:31:11 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 20:31:11 -0400 Subject: HW/OFF: LLOYD LANGTON GROUP GIG Message-ID: For Nick and all other interested parties...here's what the file from Marion says...Keith H. (FAA) A Creative Mental Health Rehabilitation Service Manzil Way Cowley Road Oxford 0X4 1YH Telephone: 01865 790193 Fax: 01865 241434 Also at Elder Stubbs Allotments Rymers Lane Oxford 0X4 3LB Telephone: 01865 747176 ELDER STUBBS FESTIVAL - OXFORD SATURDAY 21ST AUGUST 12 ? 5pm Elder Stubbs Garden Group part of Restore Ltd (Charity No. 274222) Grant aided by Oxford City Council the Elder Stubbs Festival raises funds every year to assist their valuable work offering opportunities and training for people who have experienced mental health problems. There are a range of activities throughout the afternoon, including Drama, Dance and Music. Highlights of the event feature: MAIN STAGE: HUW LLOYD-LANGTON (HEADLINING) Prairie Clams, The Shrink Idiots Savanta, Tola Branca ACOUSTIC DOME: Bob Cockburn ? poetry/songs/improvisation Tacey and Mavis ? folk Blues Giles & Co ? fiddle music Ferd ? The Storyfella Sarah Hinds ? celtic irish music Many and varied acts Around the site Skeleton Crew, Harpist, Pianist etc. The fesitival is being held at Florence Park, Rymers Lane, Cowley, Oxford. Enquiries: 01865 747176. President Lord Young of DarlingtonRehabilitation Services Trust for Oxfordshire Re-employment Ltd A non-profit company limited by guarantee. Reg. 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From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Aug 20 07:27:45 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:27:45 GMT Subject: Ptolemaic Terrascope 27 Dave Brock Interview Part II In-Reply-To: <37bb029e.7319233@smtp.freeserve.net> Message-ID: some more... PT: Where were you living at the time? DB: I lived near Ladbroke Grove, West London, in various places around there. It was the era of psychedelia, loads of people smoking dope, taking LSD, loads of parties, lots of psychedelic music everywhere, clubs, strobes in all the clubs. Luke, a harmonica player, Francis and me got invited to Marc Bolan's party, well, not invited - we gatecrashed really [laughs]. Luke was a wonderful harmonica player, played like Sonny Boy Williamson, and I played guitar. We were at the party and heard Marc Bolan clanking around on his guitar. Luke said to Marc [thick Geordie accent] "Ee mon, give im yer geetar!" So I had this guitar and played some blues and of course Marc Bolan didn't like that 'cos we were good [laughs]. We were asked to leave. Consequently that's why I didn't turn up on his TV show in Manchester that time - I carried resentment for many a year! I gave the excuse my car broke down! I didn't fancy travelling all that way just to mime the show for our latest single 'Quark, Strangeness and Charm' anyway. What do you remember of Hawkwind's first album? It was recorded at Trident Studios, just off Wardour Street. Dick Taylor was asked to come and produce it. He was like the caretaker to keep us in order and used to play in the Pretty Things. A wonderful musician and a nice man too, a great character. Yeah, he played twelve string on it. Hawkwind were the first band to headline on their first tour of America, what springs to mind? We were lucky boys, we had records in the charts and everything was jolly wonderful. We flew everywhere, so we lived a luxurious lifestyle, we were always having parties. I remember in Detroit we were in the same hotel as the Eagles, Man and who else..? I can't remember but it was a famous band. Total lunacy. There were loads of girls running around all over the place, those were the days when groupies used to run around. Oh yes, and the Timothy Leary benefit gig. We got met at San Fransisco airport by Joanna Leary in a cavalcade of 1950s or 40s cars, it looked like a cavalcade of old gangster cars, these big old Buick saloons. It looked fantastic. They asked us who could do this gig and make a phone call to Leary, who in fact could make phone calls out and connect the telephone to the PA's so it could be broadcats to the audience.OK. We did the gig and halfway through said we would make contact with Leary and we got into big trouble with the police 'cos they found out about it. There were bad scenes and we were naughty boys for allowing it to happen which added to our reputation of course. So there you go, that was the Leary benefit gig. We were well received in the States, it was good fun and I've still got a lot of friends there from those days. How did the Strange Daze festival, the first space rock festival, go in America? Wasn't Lemmy supposed to play with you? Well, he wasn't in the line up. He said he had flu [laughs] at the time. It cost too much money cos Lemmy wanted to fly from L.A. to Cleveland and then be picked up by limousine to be taken to this camp-ground where we were. When we checked ou the cost it would have been about ?800-?900 just for his air fares. We weren't getting nothing so it was totally out of the question. Maybe next year, I mean the people that run the Space Rock festival are fantastic characters, they've been Hawkwind fans for years and years back to the early days when we used to tour. You've got to give respect to these people. The festival went well, it was all videoed with a knockout light show. It was on for three days and we were there for 2 days. It was in a wonderful area, you would have loved it; beautiful spot. People all had their luxury campers parked up in a long line [laughs] not far from the stage. We didn't make any money, Jim the guy who ran it lost about ?2000. It was quite well attended but with a lot of bands there the overheads were large. But it was a wonderful show and everyone who was there had a really good time. Anyone who missed out should try to get there. How did the Live in Chicago 1974 CD come about? Well I dunno, EMI found the tapes I think. They had the tapes stashed away for many a year. Nigel Reeves is responsible for it all. He's the guy who has packaged all the new stuff that has come out on EMI, so all the credit must go to Nigel. We mixed it in 3 weeks I think, I enjoyed it but some of it was horrendous because it does meander about a bit. But overall we sung alright, it was exciting. Obviously, you've got to imagine we had a wonderful light-show going on when you listen this double CD. A beautiful stage show, dancing around with a lot of action on stage. The band were full of real over the top characters so it was very visual and it's hard to understand the band going off onto one and wondering why all the cheering's going on. It was the terrific light-show okay, that's it for now. there's about the same again, so i might as well finish typing this in, but not now. RSI beckons! Hope some of you are enjoying this andrew From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Fri Aug 20 07:59:01 1999 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:59:01 +0200 Subject: Ptolemaic Terrascope 27 Dave Brock Interview Part II In-Reply-To: <37bf3231.1671141@smtp.freeserve.net> Message-ID: >PT: Where were you living at the time? > >DB: I lived near Ladbroke Grove, West London, in various places around >there. It was the era of psychedelia, loads of people smoking dope, >taking LSD, loads of parties, lots of psychedelic music everywhere, >clubs, strobes in all the clubs. Luke, a harmonica player, Francis and >me got invited to Marc Bolan's party, well, not invited - we >gatecrashed really [laughs]. Luke was a wonderful harmonica player, >played like Sonny Boy Williamson, and I played guitar. We were at the >party and heard Marc Bolan clanking around on his guitar. Luke said to >Marc [thick Geordie accent] "Ee mon, give im yer geetar!" So I had >this guitar and played some blues and of course Marc Bolan didn't like >that 'cos we were good [laughs]. We were asked to leave. Consequently >that's why I didn't turn up on his TV show in Manchester that time - I >carried resentment for many a year! I gave the excuse my car broke >down! I didn't fancy travelling all that way just to mime the show for >our latest single 'Quark, Strangeness and Charm' anyway. > >What do you remember of Hawkwind's first album? > >It was recorded at Trident Studios, just off Wardour Street. Dick >Taylor was asked to come and produce it. He was like the caretaker to >keep us in order and used to play in the Pretty Things. A wonderful >musician and a nice man too, a great character. Yeah, he played twelve >string on it. > >Hawkwind were the first band to headline on their first tour of >America, what springs to mind? > >We were lucky boys, we had records in the charts and everything was >jolly wonderful. We flew everywhere, so we lived a luxurious >lifestyle, we were always having parties. I remember in Detroit we >were in the same hotel as the Eagles, Man and who else..? I can't >remember but it was a famous band. Total lunacy. There were loads of >girls running around all over the place, those were the days when >groupies used to run around. Oh yes, and the Timothy Leary benefit >gig. We got met at San Fransisco airport by Joanna Leary in a >cavalcade of 1950s or 40s cars, it looked like a cavalcade of old >gangster cars, these big old Buick saloons. It looked fantastic. They >asked us who could do this gig and make a phone call to Leary, who in >fact could make phone calls out and connect the telephone to the PA's >so it could be broadcats to the audience.OK. We did the gig and >halfway through said we would make contact with Leary and we got into >big trouble with the police 'cos they found out about it. There were >bad scenes and we were naughty boys for allowing it to happen which >added to our reputation of course. So there you go, that was the Leary >benefit gig. We were well received in the States, it was good fun and >I've still got a lot of friends there from those days. > >How did the Strange Daze festival, the first space rock festival, go >in America? Wasn't Lemmy supposed to play with you? > >Well, he wasn't in the line up. He said he had flu [laughs] at the >time. It cost too much money cos Lemmy wanted to fly from L.A. to >Cleveland and then be picked up by limousine to be taken to this >camp-ground where we were. When we checked ou the cost it would have >been about ?800-?900 just for his air fares. We weren't getting >nothing so it was totally out of the question. Maybe next year, I mean >the people that run the Space Rock festival are fantastic characters, >they've been Hawkwind fans for years and years back to the early days >when we used to tour. You've got to give respect to these people. The >festival went well, it was all videoed with a knockout light show. It >was on for three days and we were there for 2 days. It was in a >wonderful area, you would have loved it; beautiful spot. People all >had their luxury campers parked up in a long line [laughs] not far >from the stage. We didn't make any money, Jim the guy who ran it lost >about ?2000. It was quite well attended but with a lot of bands there >the overheads were large. But it was a wonderful show and everyone who >was there had a really good time. Anyone who missed out should try to >get there. > >How did the Live in Chicago 1974 CD come about? > >Well I dunno, EMI found the tapes I think. They had the tapes stashed >away for many a year. Nigel Reeves is responsible for it all. He's the >guy who has packaged all the new stuff that has come out on EMI, so >all the credit must go to Nigel. We mixed it in 3 weeks I think, I >enjoyed it but some of it was horrendous because it does meander about >a bit. But overall we sung alright, it was exciting. Obviously, you've >got to imagine we had a wonderful light-show going on when you listen >this double CD. A beautiful stage show, dancing around with a lot of >action on stage. The band were full of real over the top characters so >it was very visual and it's hard to understand the band going off onto >one and wondering why all the cheering's going on. It was the terrific >light-show > >okay, that's it for now. there's about the same again, so i might as >well finish typing this in, but not now. RSI beckons! Hope some of you >are enjoying this > >andrew hello andrew you are doing a great job here. thanks for your time for typing this and i look forward to see more ;<) andre From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Aug 20 08:45:43 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:45:43 GMT Subject: Ptolemaic Terrascope 27 Dave Brock Interview Part III In-Reply-To: <37bf3231.1671141@smtp.freeserve.net> Message-ID: Okay, last lot now: PT: The band are famous for their charity gigs. DB: We done all the Stonehenge things, and had problems with the police - I used to get my phone tapped. In the early days we had the bomb squad, not the bomb squad, it was MI5 actually believe it or not raiding us cos we were working with the White Panthers who used to put out all this risque literature about how to stop the cities, cause punctures, power failures and generally cause confusion. OK we did benefit gigs for them. Also the underground papers, we made money for that, and also Princess Margaret's wheelchair benefit with the Hells Angels [laughs] doing the security there. We've done so many things there is so much to go into. What music have you guested on? Well, I did the Starfighters, I wrote most of that with Bob Calvert. The annoying thing about it was that Calvert and me had this huge argument. We had written so much stuff together and we had this row, as you listen to the Starfighters you find most of the guitar stuff was Paul Rudolph and me! Anyway I won't go into that... It was jolly fun, the major thing was doing a track with Arthur Brown. I've always admired Arthur Brown. Has recording and touring with Hawkwind affected you? Yeah, it has caused a lot of problems in my life unfortunately. If you dedicate yourself to doing something for a long period of time you suffer, there are penalties for it. There are consequences for your actions, it has caused me lots of problems with family and friends, 'cos you know lots of people get very jealous with what you do for a living. It's hard work, it's not easy. What do you do outside of music? Well, I live on a farm so there's plenty of work all the time. I've always got something to do. I've got a train set! A friend of mine, Steve Smith, usually comes round and plays with it [laughs]. My hobbies are my music in a way, I'm lucky to do what I do. What's in the pipeline musically? Unfortunately as we couldn't do the tour of Australia as it would have cost ?6500 to get over there. I'm doing solo stuff as well. We are hoping to update Mission Control on the Internet, everything takes time. There wasn't an autumn 1998 tour but in 1999 we will be touring with a show based on the Ledge of Darkness book which is going to be fantastic, with ex members of Hawkwind joining us on stage. Why did you cease playing the good old Hammersmith Odeon? I dunno, I supoose the people who run it want a lot of money for the hire of the place. I am sure we will do Brixton again. Have the band's legal problems ceased? Well, Doug Smith has got Chumbawumba of course so we've become the little fish now. We've been discarded to a certain extent which is most unfortunate really. Perhaps Douglas will remember us soon, he did earn a lot of money ou of us. Any message for the fans out there? Yeah, the band are always changing and we are trying to get more things together musically. We are still trying to keep the Hawkwind style of course, which is our niche, space rock music is our niche. Come and see us, _we need you_! If it wasn't for people listening to us and buying our music then we would not be doing what we are doing. And that's it! Interview by Dave Sheppard, 1998. In Ptolemaic Terrascope 27 Summer 1999. As it was their interview it's only right that i say the following: For those of you who don't know it, Ptolemaic Terrascope is a _great_ A4 sized mag, packed full of all forms of psychedlia and comes with a full-length CD these days. If it's not in your local record shops, it's ?6 an issue/?20 for a 4 issue subscription. Cheques/POs payable to 'The Ptolemaic Terrascope' at 37 Sandridge Road Melksham Wiltshire SN12 7BQ England oh and there's a website, http://www.terrascope.org (i daren't look in case i've just typed this in and it's been put up there :) andrew From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Aug 20 09:34:34 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:34:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind news 20.8.99. Message-ID: >From the horse's mouth... --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham -----Original Message----- Subject: Hawkwind news 20.8.99. Hawkwind Reunion gigs at Brixton Academy on Hold The September Brixton Academy dates announced in Mojo earlier this month have been put on hold by the promoter after it was found to be impossible to find a period which would allow everyone ever involved with the 'mothership' to participate. When the band were interviewed for the Mojo article back in June, it was assumed that it would be possible to get the 20 past and present band members, along with all the original lighting and sound engineers, together in time. However, finding a period when everyone is free to rehearse, and ultimately perform, is proving something of a nightmare. Nik Turner is currently on tour on the West Coast of America, but "Everyone still wants to make it happen before the end of the year and we are continuing to try to find a clear ten days when we can get together and focus on the show" says Dave Brock. The email and internet response from fans enquiring about tickets has been so overwhelming that it is likely that not just one but three amazing nights are likely to be confirmed. Hawkwind's "Epoch Eclipse, The Ultimate Best Of" 17 track album, celebrating the band's 30th anniversary and containing a manic Jimmy Cauty remix of "Silver Machine", plus the original top 5 hit version, and key original recordings taken from the UA, Charisma, Bronze, RCA, GWR, Castle, Flicknife and EBS years, is due out on EMI on August 30th. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Aug 20 11:06:32 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:06:32 -0400 Subject: OFF: a troubling sort of spam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: => this is the second time i received this in the last few weeks. i considered => forwarding it the first time but decided against it. but since hawkwind => music more than once over the decades has reflected a certain dread and/or => paranoia (to the xtent of a track on the 1st lp being called "paranoia") i => figured some of our european viewers, perhaps mr. brock himself, might have => an interest in the implications of the product offered. chris bruce tells me => the same information could be gathered with the help of, say, the mac => SHERLOCK, but i find something unsettling about the breezy way this product => is being sold online. this isnt a vegematic or a set of ginsu knives... => ========================================================================== => Now you can learn EVERYTHING about your friends, neighbors, enemies, => employees, co-workers, your boss, even yourself! Really? Tell me more... => Locate: => => CIA Information, legal databases, court documents, government databases => => Research: => => Find People who have changed their name, phone number, or e-mail address => Find birth parents and adoptees, access Military databases => Do Social Security Checks, Find anyone using their phone number [etc...] Based upon what they hype, and then what they explicitly claim you can do, this product would appear to be a waste of money. It seems little more than a packaging of links to various sources and sites containing various publicly-available information. I mean, the "CIA information" is probably nothing more than the CIA World Fact Book. => See and record every word typed in e-mails, instant messages, chat rooms, => message boards. Find out who they are talking to and what they are saying. => See what type of chat rooms they are going in. Know the names of the private => rooms they go in. Record and check out the web sites they are visiting or => searching for. This is an outrageous claim, and impossible to achieve in totality without having access to the person's machine (or their subnet). Easier said than done. I notice they do not offer a money back guarantee, presumably because once people find they've been conned, and can't actually find "everything about anyone", they'd be asking for their money back in droves. File under "MAKE MONEY FAST" et al. I'm still not sure why Dave Brock or European users would be particularly interested in this, unless they have a particular penchant for being ripped off. ;-) Cheers, Paul. NP: Nebula, _Let It Burn_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Aug 20 18:33:47 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:33:47 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind news 20.8.99. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Andy Gilham wrote: > -----Original Message----- > > Subject: Hawkwind news 20.8.99. > > The September Brixton Academy dates announced in Mojo earlier this month > have been put on hold by the promoter after it was found to be impossible > to find a period which would allow everyone ever involved with the > 'mothership' to participate. Pfah... > When the band were interviewed for the Mojo article back in June, it was > assumed that it would be possible to get the 20 past and present band > members, along with all the original lighting and sound engineers, together > in time. Hang on - twenty? Now, in that file I keep inquiring for bits of stuff from people for, I make it, um, 34 just from album sleeves alone, not counting about another fifteen who've played with them live for a bit or _any_ of the extras from Sonic Assassins or Hawklords. If you include people like Kris who've performed with them and got writing credits but aren't normally considered band-members it goes up even more. So who would this mythical twenty be? The current guys (let's count Rizz for argument) number 5, then Lemmy, Nik, Alan, Harvey, Alan Powell, Simon House, Simon King, Huw - who else? Dave Anderson? Danny Thompson? Martin Griffin? Bridget would be interesting. Let's see, I need three more: Del of course, Dik Mik's around though not playing any more - maybe he could be persuaded? Please not Mike Moorcock. Let's have Paul Rudolph. So, how likely is *that*? But as an exercise for the class, who would you choose? > The email and internet response from fans enquiring about tickets has been > so overwhelming that it is likely that not just one but three amazing > nights are likely to be confirmed. I have to admit, I assumed it wouldn't happen... > Hawkwind's "Epoch Eclipse, The Ultimate Best Of" 17 track album, > celebrating the band's 30th anniversary and containing a manic Jimmy Cauty > remix of "Silver Machine", plus the original top 5 hit version, and key > original recordings taken from the UA, Charisma, Bronze, RCA, GWR, Castle, > Flicknife and EBS years, is due out on EMI on August 30th. That is an inspiring piece of inter-label co-operation... if only EMI could be got interested in handling Hawkwind's current output we might see some of these legendary EBS coming-soon albums like _Live '76_ et al... Some random thoughts anyway, sorry if I take up your bandwidth :-) Yours, Jon From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Aug 20 18:37:22 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:37:22 +0100 Subject: OFF: Nebula (was: a troubling sort of spam) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Paul Mather wrote: > I'm still not sure why Dave Brock or European users would be > particularly interested in this, unless they have a particular penchant > for being ripped off. ;-) > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > NP: Nebula, _Let It Burn_ Ooh - any good? I've heard lots of hype about them but missed them when they were in London... Yours, Jon From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Fri Aug 20 20:42:28 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:42:28 GMT Subject: OFF: Dr Hsbeen Message-ID: oky, forgive any typos as i'm swaing back and forth towards/away from my keyboard. I went to see Dr Hasbeen tonight zand they were fucking great.Two problems, the mix: which ewwas apperntly down to the venue which would bnot let the bass avbove a certain level as a result of the fascist neifgnours: come the 2nd half of the set and a pedal was pushewd and the neighbours thwarted. The (lead) guitarist sometimes wanted t fit in 333 notes where a single chord would have done (ie Dave Gilmour not Dave Brock) but these minor quibbles aside they were fuckin ace. Their own numbers crept in quite fittingly besides those we know and love (I won't mention what exactly so's not to spoil the experience for the neophytes). But... If they're playing near youe locale, GO AND SEE THEM, they're more than wrth it. They're more like a paralell developmentr to the Hawks than a tribute band and are woth making the efoort to go and see. So, GO AND SEE THEM! nrew From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Aug 21 04:22:30 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 09:22:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind news 20.8.99. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Jonathan Jarrett writes >Please not Mike Moorcock. oh, yes, please, Mike Moorcock! -- the other Jon! From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Sat Aug 21 04:37:57 1999 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:37:57 +1000 Subject: HW: Hawkwind news 20.8.99. Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Browne To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 6:22 PM Subject: Re: HW: Hawkwind news 20.8.99. > In article k>, Jonathan Jarrett writes > >Please not Mike Moorcock. > > oh, yes, please, Mike Moorcock! I think it would be great to see him writing some more stuff for HW! But, as of the current time, Mike has no plans to do anything with them. Unless its one of those special appearances, and also in the US (such as in "Past or Future?"), it isn't likely to happen at any time in the near future due to publishing deadlines. Max Wilcox From Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Aug 21 08:03:25 1999 From: Neil at FAWE.DEMON.CO.UK (Neil Ward) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 13:03:25 +0100 Subject: BADAM latest Message-ID: Here is some news about BADAM re-organisation. The latest idea is to have bands play in pubs/clubs around Buxton on September 17th, 18th and 19th. Buxton Opera House will also be the venue for larger bands including Hawkwind, who have verbally agreed to the new date (Sat 18th). Original tickets will give access to all venues over all 3 days. There may be an arrangement with local camp sites for people who wish to stay a few days. The council are happy about the arrangement, but the police are not, however there is little they can do this time as there is no licence to revoke. Attempts to re-organise an outdoor venue failed with police opposition. There is still a lot to do, including DEFINITE confirmation of Hawkwind, and the line up of other bands, which will now be different from the original due to other commitments. The organisers would like to thank ticket holders for being patient until all the issues can be resolved. I'll post more info as I receive it. On a related note here is a quote from 'The Derbyshire Times' about the Altitude Festival which is planned to be held about 15 miles from Buxton, with Gomez tipped to headline: ' Council chiefs gave the go-ahead this week, despite strong objections from the police. Officers opposed the festival's application for a licence, saying they were concerned about sanitation, fire safety, policing and traffic problems. The licence was granted provided that a detailed events plan was submitted within seven days. The police brought up a strong argument against the festival, and we thought we wouldn't get the licence.' Anything sound familiar? Insp. Froheim was the officer opposing the festival, the same one who revoked the BADAM licence. There is still time for their licence to be revoked the same as BADAM was. Regards, Neil. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Aug 21 13:55:34 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 13:55:34 EDT Subject: HW: Hawkwind news 20.8.99. Message-ID: In a message dated 99-08-20 09:35:33 EDT, you write: << Nik Turner is currently on tour on the West Coast of America >> ---No kidding?? Well, I know he's at Strange Daze at the moment...are he and Farflung coming out west after that?? Please, just one L.A. date! Chuck From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Sat Aug 21 18:47:41 1999 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 18:47:41 EDT Subject: HW: Eclipse in Cornwall Message-ID: Hi I've only just got back and started catching up but your mails are reaching me ok , Kris. Thanks for the reply to my request for info...Got it just in time. Unfortunately missed HWs set From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Sun Aug 22 08:15:03 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 22:15:03 +1000 Subject: Ptolemaic Terrascope 27 Dave Brock Interview Part III Message-ID: On 20 Aug 99, at 12:45, andrew wrote: > What's in the pipeline musically? > > Unfortunately as we couldn't do the tour of Australia as it would have > cost ?6500 to get over there. sob! Cheers for typing all that in Andrew! Soniqu? -- PO Box 378 Paul Ward Ashburton http://sonique.net VIC 3147 (time permitting) Mob:0418 524744 sonique at sonique.net From andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Sun Aug 22 19:46:09 1999 From: andrew at DELUMINATE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (andrew) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 23:46:09 GMT Subject: Ptolemaic Terrascope 27 Dave Brock Interview Part III In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Soniqu? wrote: >> Unfortunately as we couldn't do the tour of Australia as it would have >> cost ?6500 to get over there. > >sob! > >Cheers for typing all that in Andrew! no problem! I did wonder whether to edit that q/a out so as not to bring back unpleasant memories for all you down-under flying doctors, but decided to go ahead for the sake of completeness :) Oh, yeah. I was feeling abit iffy about the (c) issues as PT is not a big circulation mag and so contacted Phil McMullen; he said he would have preferred a plug and than a transcript a couple of months later. After such a time he would have forwarded a pre-digitised version. But he was pretty cool about it which leads me to stress that info for ordering copies of PT was provided at the end of part III of the i/view. He mentioned that he still have a few copies of no.27 (w/Dave in it) available from him for a fiver, so if you want a copy plus the rest of a great mag, then contact the address given previously or Ptolemy at terrascope.org andrew From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Sun Aug 22 23:04:01 1999 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 22:04:01 -0500 Subject: HW: Daze Message-ID: Just got back from sd99, thought I'd post a bit. Great event, probably as good as the 97 festival. Friday night Tribe of Cro had already been a lost cause but then Helios Creed pulled a no-show, real bummer both bands didn't make it. But, luckily Born To Go were good and ready to Go, and they did get on stage and go and go and go, really classic crunching spacerock that went on for a full two hours(which included a 20+ minute "Orgone Accumulator"), great songs too, "Spacerock City" brought a grin to my face. Alien planetscapes played a good rocking set this year, not as jazzy previous years. Of course Saturday was Nik headlining, another great show. Nik played Sonic Attack, Brainstorm, Freefall, Anubis, Watching the Grass Grow, D-rider, Ejection, Master of the Universe, You Shouldn't do That, and maybe one or two that eludes me. After the show Nik appeased the audience with solo sax versions of Silver Machine, The Right Stuff, Space Invaders, I'm a Bad Egg(?), and In the Mood, a real crowd pleaser he was. Lots of other bands played nice sets too on all three days. Great to see all the people from the list there, again, I'm getting used to seeing you guys once a year now. Strangest thing I saw, a baby tarantula caught by the crowd during the Canis Minor set, biggest spider I'd ever seen up close. Anyway, I had a great time. Unfortunately attendance was not what it should have been, Jim needs to have a better turn-out if he's going to keep doing this. There was about 400 tickets sold I believe, hopefully that's enough for sd 2000 to happen. If not I blame it on all you people that were too lazy to go. Thom mentioned that the Ozrics and Gong are being talked to for a possible sd 2000, maybe that will stir some additional interest. From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Mon Aug 23 03:16:56 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Gekke Henkie) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 09:16:56 +0200 Subject: HW: Hawkwind news 20.8.99. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Op 20 Aug 99, om 14:34, Andy Gilham schreef: > Hawkwind > Reunion gigs at Brixton Academy on Hold Bummer, as I am in London on september 4th... maybe next time --BArt From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 23 06:54:49 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:54:49 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind news 20.8.99. In-Reply-To: Jonathan Jarrett's message of Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:33:47 +0100 Message-ID: Jonathan Jarrett writes: > Hang on - twenty? Now, in that file I keep inquiring for bits of > stuff from people for, I make it, um, 34 just from album sleeves alone, > not counting about another fifteen who've played with them live for a bit > or _any_ of the extras from Sonic Assassins or Hawklords. If you include > people like Kris who've performed with them and got writing credits but > aren't normally considered band-members it goes up even more. So who > would this mythical twenty be? The current guys (let's count Rizz for > argument) number 5, then Lemmy, Nik, Alan, Harvey, Alan Powell, Simon > House, Simon King, Huw - who else? Dave Anderson? Danny Thompson? Martin > Griffin? Bridget would be interesting. Let's see, I need three more: Del > of course, Dik Mik's around though not playing any more - maybe he could > be persuaded? Please not Mike Moorcock. Let's have Paul Rudolph. Oh come on, we gotta have Moorcock and Tm Blake in there. Adrian Shaw is still musically active too and it'd be nice to see him again. > Jon FoFP From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Aug 23 10:53:32 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 10:53:32 EDT Subject: baked beans are OFF Message-ID: <> ==== sigh and sigh again... could it be, sir, that their interest wouldnt be to ACQUIRE this device, but to witness the crassness of the product's sales pitch and the implications therein? the sister of an online friend in holland is a journalist, and i'd sent that advertisement to her the first time i received it, and she felt it had grave implications, she took it perhaps too seriously. if it's all a buncha hooey, then fine w/me. "<>" From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Mon Aug 23 11:30:40 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:30:40 EDT Subject: HW: Daze Message-ID: In a message dated 8/22/99 8:03:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lwitt1 at USWEST.NET writes: << Strangest thing I saw, a baby tarantula caught by the crowd during the Canis Minor set, biggest spider I'd ever seen up close. >> Damn!!! you call that a baby spider???? maybe it just looked bigger to me.... bob From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Mon Aug 23 11:43:04 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 11:43:04 EDT Subject: Strange Daze 99 Message-ID: Hello, got back from SD99 last night, had an incredible time. Born To Go kicked arse, Canis Minor were wonderful, Alien Planetscapes rocked out big time, and of course sure to please any crowd Nik Turner, who also made a surprise visit to the tent satdaynite and sat in with Canis Minor. All the other bands were totaly enjoyable. I just woke up after some badly needed sleep, so leaving the other great bands out is due to not being fully conscious, and It's certain they'll all be talked about on this list one note, there were 2 no shows to the event, which is sad, especially when Jim Lascko puts so much blood and sweat into it. Everyone had a great time I'm sure in spite of that. Also, anyone who I talked to at Strange Daze who believe I still have your email address, please email me privately, as recently I lost my address book as well as other things. Great job Jim, and all the bands who played at SD99, thanks so much, can't wait for SD2000 !!!!!! bob From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Aug 23 12:05:37 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 12:05:37 -0400 Subject: baked beans are OFF In-Reply-To: <9735ef2.24f2ba6c@aol.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Aug 1999 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: => < particularly interested in this, unless they have a particular penchant => for being ripped off. ;-)>> => ==== => sigh and sigh again... => could it be, sir, that their interest wouldnt be to ACQUIRE this device, but => to witness the crassness of the product's sales pitch and the implications => therein? => => the sister of an online friend in holland is a journalist, and i'd sent that => advertisement to her the first time i received it, and she felt it had grave => implications, she took it perhaps too seriously. People (especially journalists) felt that "cold fusion" had "grave implications" when it was ballyhooed. But then when folks actually took time to check the claims, they decided it wasn't so grave after all. I'm sure that the product advertised---if it could truly do what it stated---would also have "grave implications," but then (being extremely kind) that is an enormous "IF" we're dealing with there. (I don't feel the manner of the advertisement was anything new at all. It was written as a classic scam: high on promises, vague on details. Haven't these people heard of "hair in a can?" Nor do I think the topic particularly novel. The privacy and surveillance industry is in a boom time right now. Just look what the "Boston Nanny" case did for hidden cameras in the home, to spy on child minders: a huge surge in sales.) What I feel does have grave implications is the way misinformation is routinely forwarded around, and the way science is reported in the media. I was fairly shocked when a local news broadcast cited "the Internet" as the source for some breaking news. I only hope your Dutch friend does not take those claims seriously. But then again, I may just be a moron, as the tone of your reply seems to suggest. Cheers, Paul. NP: The Primordial Undermind, _Yet More Wonders of the Hidden World_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Aug 23 13:27:12 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:27:12 -0400 Subject: OFF: Nebula (was: a troubling sort of spam) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Aug 1999, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: => > NP: Nebula, _Let It Burn_ => => Ooh - any good? I've heard lots of hype about them but missed them => when they were in London... Yours, Yes, it is, if you like early Monster Magnet (and I do). My only complaint is that, even with the two bonus tracks, the CD ends too soon (it's about ~35 mins total). But the tracks therein are short and sweet, and with plenty of vivacious energy (and a monster fuzz tone:). They are decidedly up-tempo compared with other stoner bands such as Electric Wizard, Sleep, etc. (Think more along the lines of Fu Manchu[*], Monster Magnet, etc.) Cheers, Paul. NP: Nebula, _Let It Burn_ [*] D'oh! I just read that Nebula consists of ex-Fu Manchu members. Here's the album description from Relapse's WWW site: "A stoner's wet dream! Three ex-Fu Manchu members kick out the jams in the tradition of Kyuss, Monster Magnet, and Sundial. This re-issued version contains exclusive bonus tracks!" I'd say the Sundial comparison is a bit tenuous, but there's a grain of truth in it. Needless to say, they're more lightweight than Kyuss, too... e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Mon Aug 23 13:53:29 1999 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:53:29 +0100 Subject: HuW: Huwie @ Oxford Message-ID: I went to see Huw play a solo acoustic benefit in Oxford on Saturday, and enjoyed myself. I also took some photos, and these can be found at http://www.rdg.ac.uk/AcaDepts/kc/nhe/hll.htm and he played for 48 mins, with a set list of Wars are the hobby there Play with Fire (Stones) Solitary Mind Games Death of a clown (Kinks) Smokestack Lightning Wind of Change (Huw's version) with 5th second of forever intro & outro Fur Kirsty All Along the Watchtower Rocky Paths Hurry on Sundown (in A, not D) Knocking on Heaven's Door and it was good. Mike w From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Aug 23 13:32:24 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:32:24 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind news/SD'99 Message-ID: Chuck asked... >In a message dated 99-08-20 09:35:33 EDT, you write: > ><< Nik Turner is currently on > tour on the West Coast of America >> > >---No kidding?? Well, I know he's at Strange Daze at the moment...are he and >Farflung coming out west after that?? Please, just one L.A. date! Well, there were *supposed* to be west coast dates prior to those in this part of the country, but they were cancelled because Nik thought he had some commitments in the UK to honor then. As it turned out, he ended up being 'free' all of last week, and regretted having to tell Tommy to nix 'em. So there were three shows...Illinois, SD'99, and the post-SD'99 party in Lakewood, OH last night (I think I was the only listmember there?). I think Nik goes to Chicago today to return to the UK, but Farflung is flying back to LA tomorrow from Pittsburgh (hence the show there tonight). So don't expect to see Nik tonight! Anyway, the show last night was excellent!!! 45 min. of Anubian Lights, 45 min. of Pressurehed, and 90 min. of Hawkwind tunes (as Dan said). I didn't expect to go to this show as I knew I would be burned out already, but I *had* to, because I have absolutely no recollection of Saturday night's show whatsoever (despite being 'awake' and vertical the entire time). Somebody said something about dancing alien girls on stage...I have no clue what he was talking about. I vaguely remember Scott Kuti coming out as the Spaceman again, but I probably remember that more from a similar appearance last year with Pressurehed. That'll teach me to mix rum and space rock!! (I *do* remember yelling out 'D-Rider' during Nik's solo jam, and being surprised that he said, 'We've already done that one'. I thought, What? Really? Damn, I missed it!! What else did they play? That was the beginning of my return to active consciousness! Thankfully I was mostly aware of Canis Minor's excellent trance out in the tent, but it wasn't until Bob L. nudged me that I realized Nik was playing with them as well.) And nothing but 'Free Fall' came back to me upon seeing the show again. Anyway, what a near tragedy since my brain virtually missed the SD show entirely! I'd only seen Nik on the '94 tour here in Columbus, a terrible gig mainly due to the abysmal sound. But last night was stellar. D-Rider just rules. And Free Fall...how cool was that?? Note: Tommy did the vocals, not Nik...and he did them straight from Calvert's performance on Sonic Assassins EP. And he did them very well! Nik played flute bits here and there. Oh, I'll come back with a full review later. I'm going through multiple aspects of withdrawl right now. (Normally, I'm a rather well-behaved type...I'm not quite sure what happened!?) :) Hello to everyone I met (again). And sorry for those who I didn't. (Larry, man, I apologize profusely for not tracking you down after your excellent set. I went into the pool just then, and couldn't find you afterwards.) Oh, and this was better IMHO than SD'98. Fewer people, but a stronger community feel, NO DOUBT. Keith H. (FAA) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Aug 23 16:20:37 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:20:37 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind news/SD'99 In-Reply-To: <199908231846.OAA14019@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Keith Henderson wrote: > Anyway, the show last night was excellent!!! 45 min. of Anubian Lights, 45 > min. of Pressurehed, and 90 min. of Hawkwind tunes (as Dan said). I didn't > expect to go to this show as I knew I would be burned out already, but I > *had* to, because I have absolutely no recollection of Saturday night's show > whatsoever (despite being 'awake' and vertical the entire time). Somebody > said something about dancing alien girls on stage...I have no clue what he > was talking about. I vaguely remember Scott Kuti coming out as the Spaceman > again, but I probably remember that more from a similar appearance last year > with Pressurehed. That'll teach me to mix rum and space rock!! (I *do* > remember yelling out 'D-Rider' during Nik's solo jam, and being surprised > that he said, 'We've already done that one'. I thought, What? Really? No chance of set-lists for the above then I imagine... didn't they play any Farflung stuff? I did wonder how much chance they'd get to do their excellent new material with Nik playing Hawkwind, though it sounds as if he was on fine form... Yours, Jon From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Aug 23 17:06:50 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:06:50 EDT Subject: OFF:they dont bite; they dont even light! Message-ID: <> ============= nahhhh.... that had more to do w/a typically defensive posture on my part than any insult... i was moments in the door back from strange daze, checking my mail, and... let's assume i'm unusually sensitive to posting here on the OFF side of things... well, yeah, unusually sensitive in general, but ^_~ you have a more level approach to this de-vice, apparently. my e-mail friend, a psychiatrist, and her journalist twin sister are bosnian expatriates (am i using that word correctly?) from a couple years ago...the information that thang proposes to unearth would, in the wrong hands, f*ck my friend up in a big way...at least as it's implied, to them. strange daze was a worthy xperience to say the least...i did get a few hours sleep just now...wondering how much to comment on the fest. considered writing some sorta article/post, but i spent the whole time in such a sleepless and /or cannibanized, heh, daze, that i'm less sure of that now... nik turner was great, though...everyone i heard perform (we had to miss friday) was at least "good" if not great...i wonder if to others we were too...me, i'm still wincing over too many goddam drum flubs, as i'm wont to do...nnnggghhh... pray for a good harvest (sign seen in front of an ohio church which became our motto) "<>" From stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM Mon Aug 23 17:08:20 1999 From: stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 17:08:20 -0400 Subject: HW: Daze Message-ID: > lwitt1 at USWEST.NET writes: > > << Strangest thing I saw, a baby tarantula caught by the crowd during the > Canis Minor set, biggest spider I'd ever seen up close. >> > > Damn!!! you call that a baby spider???? > maybe it just looked bigger to me.... > bob Well it was only about a tenth the size of that lizard with the pointy head that was on the stage........ Steve L From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Mon Aug 23 20:00:08 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:00:08 -0400 Subject: BRAIN/OFF: uh huh. yep he's back (dang!) Message-ID: Hey all, Glad to be back after a long hot (but air conditioned) summer but thar be good news (if it hasnt been spread already by other list members): Billy H. is out of the hospital recuperating from a successful chemo. In other news, 1. Savoy Brown's _The Blues Keep Me Holding On_ is one of the best albums I bought this summer (its all new steaming guitar lines thanks to Kim Simmonds) They also are a great touring outfit. heavy sound, man. 2. Go see Sleater Kinney if you can. They put on one of the best live shows Ive seen in a club 1000 degrees F. Reminds me of a female Who without the pot-Tommy bombast. 3. Repertoire records reissued Yardbirds For Your Love, Having a Rave up and Roger the Engineer with the obligtory extra tracks. but sadly there really are a lot of bonus cuts in the Yardbirds catalogue. Having a Rave up is well reproduced, with decent liner notes and the two versions of Train Kept a rollin that put Aerosmith to shame (ha!) 4. MC 5 news: _Breakout 66_ is a compliation of pre kick out the jams hoohah aided and abetted by Wayne K's liner note contribution and mebbe production savvy. Its actually in stores. or go to www.alive-totalenergy.com for info. Thats all there is and there ain't no more (other than the POW wait:)). Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Aug 23 18:42:57 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 18:42:57 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind news/SD'99 Message-ID: Jon wondered.... > No chance of set-lists for the above then I imagine... didn't they >play any Farflung stuff? I did wonder how much chance they'd get to do >their excellent new material with Nik playing Hawkwind, though it sounds >as if he was on fine form... Yours, Oh, yeah, there was Farflung material to be heard sandwiched between Anubian Lights and Nikflung on Sat. night...and uh, no, no setlist from me! I do remember this part of the show however, mainly because I was a little disappointed it wasn't nearly loud and heavy enough for my current mood. That, and "Where the hell is Nik?" I was too hoping to hear Belief Module stuff, but couldn't begin to tell you if they did any of that. Nik's set on Sunday went something like this....order not exact- Sonic Attack Brainstorm some heavy instrumental jam I didn't recognize Opa-Loka Soul Herder Free Fall Watching the Grass Grow D-Rider Ejection Master of the Universe ----- You Shouldn't Do That Did they get all of this into the Saturday set? I wasn't sure of the exact lineup even... Something like: Nik Turner - Sax, Flute, Vocals Tommy Gre?as - Synths, Guitar, Vocals Len Del Rio - Synths/Electronics Steve Taylor - Lead Guitar Brandon Labelle - Drums (is he the same as Gammaknife?) and then another guitarist and a bassist, who Nik introduced as Brian and Scott, I think. I assumed the bassist was Dan Meyer and guitarist was Doran Shelley, but I guess not. Keith H. (FAA) From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Mon Aug 23 16:00:36 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:00:36 +0000 Subject: HW: Hawkwind news/SD'99 Message-ID: Keith Henderson wrote: > Oh, and this was better IMHO than SD'98. Fewer people, but a stronger > community feel, NO DOUBT. > > Keith H. (FAA) What he said sums up the whole thing.... and hats off to Doug Walker for jamming with so many bands - trying to outstage Nik! ChrisB. From vince-l at EROLS.COM Mon Aug 23 20:05:41 1999 From: vince-l at EROLS.COM (Vince LeGrand) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:05:41 -0400 Subject: HW: Daze Message-ID: > >Unfortunately attendance was not what it should have been, Jim needs to >have a better turn-out if he's going to keep doing this. There was >about 400 tickets sold I believe, hopefully that's enough for sd 2000 to >happen. If not I blame it on all you people that were too lazy to go. >Thom mentioned that the Ozrics and Gong are being talked to for a >possible sd 2000, maybe that will stir some additional interest. > Just got back from SD99 myself...funny you should mention Ozrics and Gong...I was talking to some folks I met there and those were the 2 bands we talked about being potentially really good draws for next year! From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Mon Aug 23 16:09:48 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:09:48 +0000 Subject: HW: Hawkwind news 20.8.99. Message-ID: We've been working on a book; with fairly loose interpretation, it's closer to 50. We sent out 37 questionaires to those we can reach... Anyone know how to reach Paul Rudolph or Flicknife Frenchy? ChrisB. M Holmes wrote: > > Jonathan Jarrett writes: > > > Hang on - twenty? Now, in that file I keep inquiring for bits of > > stuff from people for, I make it, um, 34 just from album sleeves alone, > > not counting about another fifteen who've played with them live for a bit > > or _any_ of the extras from Sonic Assassins or Hawklords. If you include > > people like Kris who've performed with them and got writing credits but > > aren't normally considered band-members it goes up even more. So who > > would this mythical twenty be? The current guys (let's count Rizz for > > argument) number 5, then Lemmy, Nik, Alan, Harvey, Alan Powell, Simon > > House, Simon King, Huw - who else? Dave Anderson? Danny Thompson? Martin > > Griffin? Bridget would be interesting. Let's see, I need three more: Del > > of course, Dik Mik's around though not playing any more - maybe he could > > be persuaded? Please not Mike Moorcock. Let's have Paul Rudolph. > > Oh come on, we gotta have Moorcock and Tm Blake in there. Adrian Shaw is > still musically active too and it'd be nice to see him again. > > > Jon > > FoFP From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Mon Aug 23 16:12:56 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:12:56 +0000 Subject: HW: Daze Message-ID: Eloy were mentioned, as well as Nektar... Gong & OT's would be stellar alone. ChrisB. Vince LeGrand wrote: > > > > >Unfortunately attendance was not what it should have been, Jim needs to > >have a better turn-out if he's going to keep doing this. There was > >about 400 tickets sold I believe, hopefully that's enough for sd 2000 to > >happen. If not I blame it on all you people that were too lazy to go. > >Thom mentioned that the Ozrics and Gong are being talked to for a > >possible sd 2000, maybe that will stir some additional interest. > > > > Just got back from SD99 myself...funny you should mention Ozrics and > Gong...I was talking to some folks I met there and those were the 2 bands we > talked about being potentially really good draws for next year! From DASLUD at AOL.COM Mon Aug 23 21:01:52 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 23 Aug 1999 21:01:52 EDT Subject: Fwd: (Revised) Latest Terrastock Schedule Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Ptolemaic Terrascope Subject: (Revised) Latest Terrastock Schedule Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 11:04:34 -0400 Size: 3984 URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 24 07:02:01 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:02:01 +0100 Subject: HW: Daze In-Reply-To: Christopher Bruce's message of Mon, 23 Aug 1999 20:12:56 +0000 Message-ID: Christopher Bruce writes: > Eloy were mentioned, as well as Nektar... Gong & OT's would be stellar alone. > ChrisB. If Eloy and Nektar are at next year's SD then I'll be making the trip from Scotland... FoFP From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Tue Aug 24 07:05:17 1999 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 07:05:17 -0400 Subject: OFF: 199 BOC Tape Swap Message-ID: Good Morning, Just wondering if anyone out there is stilll receiving/sending tapes? From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Tue Aug 24 07:38:59 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Gekke Henkie) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:38:59 +0200 Subject: OFF: 199 BOC Tape Swap In-Reply-To: <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD03F09FE0@emss05m03.sanders.lmco.com> Message-ID: Op 24 Aug 99, om 7:05, Hall, Russell J schreef: > Just wondering if anyone out there is stilll receiving/sending tapes? This weekend I recieved another tape ( the thirth already), and I do sned them along --BArt From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Aug 24 07:59:17 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:59:17 +0100 Subject: OFF: 199 BOC Tape Swap In-Reply-To: <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD03F09FE0@emss05m03.sanders.lmco.com> Message-ID: Rather embarrassingly, I lost Chris Baxley's address, so I haven't sent anything along - so Chris, if you're there, drop me a note and I'll send on Santtu's excellent space-rock tape! --Andy ObCD: Rachel's - _The Sea and the Bells_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Hall, Russell J > Sent: 24 August 1999 12:05 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: OFF: 199 BOC Tape Swap > > > Good Morning, > > Just wondering if anyone out there is stilll receiving/sending tapes? > From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Aug 24 08:11:34 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:11:34 -0400 Subject: OFF: 199 BOC Tape Swap Message-ID: >Op 24 Aug 99, om 7:05, Hall, Russell J schreef: > >> Just wondering if anyone out there is stilll receiving/sending tapes? > >This weekend I recieved another tape ( the thirth already), and I do >sned them along I have one I need to send, thanks for the reminder. "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Aug 24 09:43:23 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 09:43:23 -0400 Subject: HW: Daze Message-ID: Mike Holmes dreams... >>Eloy were mentioned, as well as Nektar... Gong & OT's would be stellar >>alone. >>ChrisB. > >If Eloy and Nektar are at next year's SD then I'll be making the trip >from Scotland... Well, let's hope all four of these bands play!! Or at least that they're all scheduled, so that when two don't show up, the other two will at least be there! :) Anyway, I'm not sure how likely most of these are (the Ozrics seem like the most probable case...Gong the least probable). I wonder where the Eloy and Nektar talk started. Of course, Nektar would depend heavily on how well Roye is recovered from his recent liver transplant. And someone at SD'99 said something about Eloy soon calling it quits after some dates in France. Who knows how accurate *that* is, though. On the subject of Nektar...here's something I saw from Jack on USENET. Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Add 'The Awakening' to Nik's set on Sunday night. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ?...f a good copy of RTF and who knows how long it will take because of what happened to Passport records I asked Roye if he could do an acoustic version of RTF on a 12 string for his fans. Roye loved the idea and is willing to do this if he can get enough of fan support to do this project. So please visit my website and post a message on the guestbook and let us know what you think about it, or email me at my website address and tell me directly and i will pass it along to roye when i have my weekly chat with him!! The webpage is updated on a regularly basis if you havent been there in awhile please check it out Roye will be holding another live chat in his chatroom 'Roye's Recycle' (http://www.roye.bigwig.net) that he just put on his webpage - Sept. 5 1999 at 4:30 P.M. EST / 21:30 GMT to announce his up and coming release of his new live Grand Alliance cd along with some videos!!!! Hope to see you all there From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Aug 24 11:20:28 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:20:28 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind news/SD'99 In-Reply-To: <199908232357.TAA10378@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Keith Henderson wrote: > I wasn't sure of the exact lineup even... > > Something like: > Nik Turner - Sax, Flute, Vocals > Tommy Gre?as - Synths, Guitar, Vocals > Len Del Rio - Synths/Electronics > Steve Taylor - Lead Guitar > Brandon Labelle - Drums (is he the same as Gammaknife?) > and then another guitarist and a bassist, who Nik introduced as Brian and > Scott, I think. I assumed the bassist was Dan Meyer and guitarist was Doran > Shelley, but I guess not. As far as I know Brandon La Belle is Gammaknife!, yes... hmm. It sounds to me as Tommy's found some new friends to write with... I wonder if that means a new band or has Farflung just done a Hawkwind? Yours, Jon From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Aug 24 11:30:09 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:30:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind news 20.8.99. In-Reply-To: <37C1AA8D.7565914A@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Aug 1999, Christopher Bruce wrote: > We've been working on a book; with fairly loose interpretation, it's closer to > 50. We sent out 37 questionaires to those we can reach... Anyone know how to > reach Paul Rudolph or Flicknife Frenchy? > ChrisB. Um: there's an e-mail address in the last Pink Fairies album which I think someone said was Paul Rudolph's: . Hope that's some use. Yours, Jon P.S. I make it 46 letting everyone I can think of in... No dancers except Stacia (listed as part of the band on the albums, also on record doing the Countdown) and Kris (has writing credits). But I can't possibly have got all of them :-) From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Aug 24 11:55:06 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:55:06 +0100 Subject: OFF: 1999 BOC Tape Swap In-Reply-To: <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD03F09FE0@emss05m03.sanders.lmco.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Hall, Russell J wrote: > Just wondering if anyone out there is stilll receiving/sending tapes? Oog. Getting there, sorry... Yours, Jon P.S. Well, there's this thesis then three job applications and moving house. So probably next week (argh! Can't make Terrastock!) From adrian.brevard at EDS.COM Tue Aug 24 12:26:18 1999 From: adrian.brevard at EDS.COM (Brevard, Adrian R) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 11:26:18 -0500 Subject: BOC: What Gives? Message-ID: Excuse my lack of courtesy today but WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH THE BOC RELEASES? A short while ago didn't someone post something on the list from the BOC Fan Club that both the remastered Sony GH package and the KBFH would be released late Aug? I know I'm not dreaming because I cut and pasted that thread to a bulletin board elsewhere. How come Sony of KBFH don't show these discs? CDNow never heard of either one. WHAT THE FARK IS GOING ON? an extremely irratated... Ghost in the Ruins blasting Iced Earth's "Night of the Stormrider" to match his mood...grrrrrrr From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Aug 24 12:29:50 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:29:50 EDT Subject: off: das ludicroix SD '99: PRAY FOR A GOOD HARVEST Message-ID: this is what i sent to my compatriots this morning..."pray for a good harvest" was on a sign we saw in front of an ohio church about 3am as we got closer to the festival. it specifically pertains to the 'drought of 99' but those sentiments have been xpressed for thousands of years... my 1980 dodge st. regis performed like a dream, justifying the almost $400.00 of car work i put into it prior to our departure. one of the reasons i continue to live around here is that my mechanic lets me run a tab...heh...but over 1400 miles later, we were all happy to be back home. sorry we missed the first night while en route; born to go was singled out for being way cool...and provided me w/a moment's notoriety the next day when, while stumbling around the food table seeking to feed myself, i hear this english accent call out "larry?! are you the larry who stirs shit up on BOC-L?" or words to that effect. "i must be", i replied. hey, there was a stage, and good equipment to play through, and free food for the players,, and amicable when not righteous guys and gals (more of the latter than i'd been told to xpect) to mingle with or stumble amidst, and no dearth of the herb either. many thanks to jim lascko and co. for putting the whole thing together out of , um, love == certainly not for any profit left unturned == i hope he feels like putting up w/the aggravation again next year. we're happy to have been part of it. "<>" ======================================================================== i played the boombox version of our set last night... bearing in mind, comrades, that i listen to everything but everything with a hypercritical ear... there's less to cause me to feel unhappy about than i kinda thought there was while we were playing. a boombox can be merciful like that; hearing the board tape will be a separate xperience ^_~ strangely enough, we sounded like das ludicroix, heh...nothing at all to regret in that respect....we delivered as to what folks might've "expected" to "get" from us. we did in fact fly by the seat of our collective britches start to finish, even by ending w/an actual song which was only known to me. (disarray's "down at the mall") we played rhythms we'd never used before; we had some loud/quiet/loud moments which we'd rarely touched upon...and a few train-wreck moments as well. goes with the territory. in the absence of the guitar overdose we've tended to indulge in previously, we dealt in dynamics and ensemble sound...to the extent that those of us onstage could hear each other (laughs). the boombox tape "mix" is dominated by doug walker and ian...carl a. might be the least audible overall although he does cut through now and then, and you can hear him doing that dave brock wah pedal cool stuff in the distance. ron is audible too and he was as killer as theorized. we're a good rhythm section and i couldnt "lose" him on the occasions i switched gears or had "mathematical" moments. doug pearson was an xcellent contribution to our gang; can't hear him a whole lot but then suddenly you can, w/xactly the sound i'd've wished for in the violin shoes. i look forward to hearing him more clearly on the board tape. more than i look forward to hearing myself...aaahh, i dunno, at least the periodic clumsy moments are in tempo. the missed crashes dont sound so bad via boombox; god knows there were cymbal crashes to spare that day, for reasons including for once i had great cymbals to come down hard on. there is one noticeable time falter on my part during the most hawklike jam...i remember when it happened because i went "oh shit, did i just do what i think i did?"...alas, such was the case, but i managed to bring the tempo back up, and i'll just have to live w/it...ha ha, you'll know it when you hear it ^_~ doug walker, "dr.synth", was cool as shite. easily the MVP of STRANGE DAZE 99, hands down, for what he did for us, a couple other bands, and the kickass set he performed with the lean and mean incarnation of alien planetscapes. and ian? he's had serious medical problems in general, a problem w/one of his hands more recently, did much last-minute repair work on his guitar (damaged on the bus ride) and had problems w/his effects pedals the whole time...he didnt do a whole lot of the classic-ian-souther-blazing-psychedelic-ranger-lead-guitar stuff i had hoped for, and after hearing the tape i believe he was tripping during our set, which is only a conjecture of mine right now....but he did some worthy playing despite all that, just w/more subtlety. it was a significant moment for him to play that festival, and he carried on through more than his share of adversity; moreso than the rest of us, truth told. i guess all the unexpected aspects of what we did should be considered components of, ahem, "the das ludicroix xperience"; no one knew what would happen until it happened. we had never sounded quite like that before and are unlikely to again. when and if an entity called das ludicroix makes a subsequent appearance neither the personnel nor the music played will be like it was on this sunday afternoon in ohio. or else it was all a bunch of crap. i hope we are invited back to STRANGE DAZE 2000, if there'll end up being such a thing. PRAY FOR A GOOD HARVEST "<>" From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Aug 24 12:35:18 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:35:18 +0100 Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out Message-ID: Positive review of Hawkwind album shock! London listings mag _Time Out_ has a pretty close to rave review... I may well OCR it in a bit. --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 24 12:44:43 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:44:43 +0100 Subject: hawkwind members list In-Reply-To: Jonathan Jarrett's message of Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:20:28 +0100 Message-ID: I'd have thought that between us we could list pretty much everyone who's ever played for Hawwkwind? Here's a start. If you can add to the list then please do so. MT,AN,HE,MA,DM,KT,AS,SA,MI,BS,TY,HY Dave Brock Dave Anderson Terry Ollis Dik Mik Nick Turner John Harrison Mick Slattery Huw Lloyd Langton Twink Bob Calvert Del Dettmar Lemmy Kilminster Simon King Tim Blake Mike Moorcock Simon House Alan Powell Clive Beamer Andy Dunkley Paul Rudolph Adrian Shaw Harvey Bainbridge Martin Griffin Paul Hayles Steve Swindells Ginger Baker Twink (roadie) Keith Hale Dead Fred Danny Thompson Alan Davey Dumpy Crum Richard Chadwick Bridget Wishart Ron Tree Jerry Richards Captain Rizz From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Aug 24 12:49:34 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:49:34 +0100 Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out In-Reply-To: Message-ID: And here we are: ---- Hawkwind Epoch Eclipse: The Ultimate Best Of (EMI) Drugfreak nutters Hawkwind have been cruelly misrepresented for years as hippy-drippy prog-rock bollocks. If the fact that they were actually named after saxophonist Nik Turner's coughing and farting habits doesn't blow their cover, then try this snatch of lyric from 1973's greasily groovy 'Urban Guerilla' single: 'So lets not talk of love and flowers and things that don't explode/We used up all our magic powers trying to do it in the road.' This well-aimed kiss-off to the flabby thinking of the post-'Sgt Pepper' Beatles generation got their follow-up to massive hit 'Silver Machine' banned by the BBC because of sensitivity around the IRAs bombing campaigns. Which conveniently sums up the constant, tragicomic chaos surrounding Notting Hill's quintessential counter-culture rock band. Admittedly, this compilation goes steadily more pear-shaped from the moment in 1975 when future Motorhead leader Lemmy was fired ostensibly for preferring speed to acid. But the opening seven tracks demonstrate exactly how The 'Wind (ahem) provided the bridge between Brit psychedelia and Brit punk. Essentially rough-arsed twelve-bar boogies coated with daft synth effects, cosmic apocalypse lyrics, and an ever-present penchant for violent revolution, they represent perfectly the gloriously bikered-up intellectual dumbness that led them to feature sci-fi guru Michael Moorcock and an enormous-breasted dancing girl called Stacia when they played live. For those who already know all this, a triple-CD '30 Year Anthology' is also available. For those who don't, grab this little slice of pharmaceutically inspired cultural history. They were one of Johnny Rotten's favourite bands, you know. Garry Mulholland ---- --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Aug 24 12:00:58 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:00:58 -0400 Subject: hawkwind members list Message-ID: Mike began... >I'd have thought that between us we could list pretty much everyone >who's ever played for Hawkwind? > >Here's a start. If you can add to the list then please do so. There were some people who showed up on various recordings around 1981-4 I think. Like Marc Sperhawk (sp?), and a drummer named Clark or something (?) Check the "Your Last Chance" thing...there's some names there. And Doug Buckley of Starfire, he cowrote a tune but not sure he appeared on anything. How 'bout Drachen Theaker...for some reason, I remember him as appearing with them somewhere/sometime. Perhaps that's a false memory though. And who was the guitarist that filled in for Brock on that European tour about a decade ago? I know his name appeared in a Hawkfan issue I've got somewhere in my 'archives.' And on that note, will we count Steve Taylor and Steve Hayes of StrangeWind? And in the case of Mr. Taylor, also StrangeNik. Did you get Sam Fox? Keith H. (FAA) >MT,AN,HE,MA,DM,KT,AS,SA,MI,BS,TY,HY Wot's this? From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Tue Aug 24 13:47:30 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:47:30 -0400 Subject: BOC: What Gives? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 11:26 AM 8/24/99 -0500, you wrote: >Excuse my lack of courtesy today but WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH THE BOC >RELEASES? The usual "we'll go in a circle to get things done" approach to work I think. A short while ago didn't someone post something on the list from >the BOC Fan Club that both the remastered Sony GH package and the KBFH would >be released late Aug? I know I'm not dreaming because I cut and pasted that >thread to a bulletin board elsewhere. I thought the website (www.bocfanclub.com) listed the KBFH release as some time in September, taking it's info from a wee blurb in ICE Magazine.Personally, I could care less for (yet another) new GH even if it is remastered. whoopdeedoo to quote the bard. The fanclub aslo said something about the GH package but it eludes me at the moment. Well it could be worse, there could be NO oyster cult anywhere on the horizon. In listhappy news, Virgin records will be doing a 30th anniversary superdeluxe and sparkly CD re-release of King Crimson's _In the COurt of the Crimson King: An Observation by King Crimson_. I might have to give up the 3.99 EG collectors series audio tape i bought for 3 bucks now. A harvest of limbs, of arms and of legs! Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Aug 24 13:22:47 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:22:47 +0100 Subject: hawkwind members list Message-ID: ->Dave Brock >Dave Anderson >Terry Ollis >Dik Mik >Nick Turner >John Harrison >Mick Slattery >Huw Lloyd Langton >Twink >Bob Calvert >Del Dettmar >Lemmy Kilminster >Simon King >Tim Blake >Mike Moorcock >Simon House >Alan Powell >Clive Beamer >Andy Dunkley >Paul Rudolph >Adrian Shaw >Harvey Bainbridge >Martin Griffin >Paul Hayles >Steve Swindells >Ginger Baker >Twink (roadie) >Keith Hale >Dead Fred >Danny Thompson >Alan Davey >Dumpy >Crum >Richard Chadwick >Bridget Wishart >Ron Tree >Jerry Richards >Captain Rizz How about Ande Anderson (spelling?) and Rick Martinez both drums c.1984? Why does Twink get in twice? Should.t that be Clive Deamer not Beamer? (drums again c.1984! This is getting a bit Spinal Tap!) Also Viv Prince, I believe, played drums for a bit around 71-ish. Does Steve Bemand (guitar in lieu of Brock for the Europe '91 tour) count? Then of course there's Mick Kirton who drummed (!) briefly in 1988. And if Andy Dunkley gets a mention surely Stacia should, and what of Tony Crerar and Kris, all are credited? Nick From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 24 13:30:33 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:30:33 +0100 Subject: hawkwind members list In-Reply-To: Keith Henderson's message of Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:00:58 -0400 Message-ID: Keith Henderson writes: > Mike began... > > >I'd have thought that between us we could list pretty much everyone > >who's ever played for Hawkwind? > > > >Here's a start. If you can add to the list then please do so. > > There were some people who showed up on various recordings around 1981-4 I > think. Like Marc Sperhawk (sp?) That name rings a bell you know... > > Did you get Sam Fox? No, She should be in there though. > >MT,AN,HE,MA,DM,KT,AS,SA,MI,BS,TY,HY > > Wot's this? It's a list of initials from Bernhards gig list who I couldn't identify offhand. I'm sure Bernhard will enlighten us... FoFP From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Aug 24 13:27:56 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:27:56 +0100 Subject: hawkwind members list Message-ID: >There were some people who showed up on various recordings around 1981-4 I >think. Like Marc Sperhawk (sp?), and a drummer named Clark or something (?) >Check the "Your Last Chance" thing...there's some names there. >And Doug Buckley of Starfire, he cowrote a tune but not sure he appeared on >anything. That'd be Huw's drummer John Clark, played on the Earth Ritual EP (c., ahem, 1984), Rob Heaton (of New Model Army, I believe, also played on this) >Did you get Sam Fox? Good one! Nick From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Tue Aug 24 13:37:28 1999 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 12:37:28 -0500 Subject: hawkwind members list Message-ID: > Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:44:43 +0100 > From: M Holmes > Here's a start. If you can add to the list then please do so. Please see http://www.enteract.com/~weil/golden_void/history/table.html for my not-quite-up-to-date list. It has more names than the list here. Also, you can go to http://www.enteract.com/~weil/golden_void/history/ for a few links to more information. Frank -- You guys line up alphabetically by height. -- Bill Peterson, a Florida State football coach ============================================================ Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Tue Aug 24 13:43:50 1999 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:43:50 +0200 Subject: hawkwind members list In-Reply-To: <199908241715.NAA17355@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Hi At 12:00 24.08.99 -0400, you wrote: >And who was the guitarist that filled in for Brock on that >European tour about a decade ago? I know his name appeared in a >Hawkfan issue I've got somewhere in my 'archives.' His name is STEVE BEMAND. The tour was in March/April 1991 I have seen HAWKWIND 4 times on this tour! Bernhard From bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE Tue Aug 24 13:56:21 1999 From: bernhard.pospiech at HOME.INS.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:56:21 +0200 Subject: hawkwind members list Message-ID: Hi there Here is a list of all Musicians that ever appeared with HAWKWIND on stage You can also find the initials I've used btw: There were 2 different TWINKS in HAWKWINDs lineup (see the list) NAME INIT INSTR_A INSTR_B INSTR_C YEAR ANDERSON ANDY AN DRUMS 83 ANDERSON DAVE AD BASS VOCALS 71,84,85 ASHLEY ALAN AS POET 88,89 BAINBRIDGE HARVEY BA BASS KEYBOARD VOCALS 77-91 BAKER GINGER BK DRUMS 80,81 BEMAND STEVE BM GUITAR VOVALS 91 BLAKE TIM BL KEYBOARD VOCALS 79,80,91 BROCK DAVE BR GUITAR KEYBOARD VOCALS 69-99 CALVERT BOB CA VOCALS GUITAR 71-78,81,82,84 CHADWICK RICHARD CH DRUMS 88-99 CHAPMAN JENNY CP VOCALS 84 CRIMBLE THOMAS CB BASS VOCALS 70,71 CRUM CR KEYBOARD VOCALS 88,89,97 DAVEY ALAN DA BASS KEYBOARD VOCALS 84-96 DEAD FRED DF KEYBOARD VIOLINE 83,84 DEAMER CLEVE DM DRUMS 84,85 DETTMAR DEL DE KEYBOARD 71-74 DIK MIK DI KEYBOARD 70-73 DUMPY DU GUITAR VOCALS 86,87,88,99 GRIFFIN MARTIN GR DRUMS 77,78,81,82,89 HARRISON JOHN HR BASS 70 HAYES STEVE HY KEYBOARDS 98 HAYLE KEITH HA KEYBOARD VOCALS 80,81 HAYLES PAUL HS KEYBOARD 77,78 HEATON ROB HE DRUMS 83 HOUSE SIMON HO VIOLINE KEYBOARD 74-78,89,90,94 KING SIMON KI DRUMS 72-80 KIRTON MICK KT DRUMS 88 LEMMY IAN LE BASS VOCALS 71-75,78,79,84-89 LLOYD LANGTON HUW LL GUITAR VOCALS 70,79-89,97 MARTINEZ RICK MA DRUMS 84 MATTHEWS AL MT DRUMS 74,75 MIDAS MI KEYBOARD 92,93 MOORCOCK MIKE MO POET 73,74,80-82,84,85 OLLIS TERRY OL DRUMS 70-72 POWELL ALAN PO DRUMS 74-76 RICHARDS JERRY RI GUITAR BASS 95-99 RIZZ CAPTAIN RZ VOCALS 97-99 RUDOLPH PAUL RU BASS VOCALS GUITAR 74-76 SALT SA KEYBOARDS 92,93 SHAW ADRIAN SH BASS VOCALS 77,78 SLATTERY MICK SL GUITAR VOCALS 85 SWINDELLS STEVE SW KEYBOARD 78 TAYLOR DICK TA GUITAR 70 TAYLOR STEVE TY BASS 98 THOMPSON DANNY TH DRUMS 84-88 TREE RON TR VOCALS 95-99 TURNER NICK TU SAX FLUTE VOCALS 69-76,79,81-85,97 TWINK TW TAMBOURINE DRUMS 71,72 TWINK TK KEYBOARDS 80 WISHART BRIDGETT WI VOCALS 89-91 From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Tue Aug 24 14:16:01 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 13:16:01 -0500 Subject: Get out yur wallets, Folks! Message-ID: Well, if you haven't been to CDZone in the last day or two, there's 11 new hawkwind CD's coming out. My mind-blowing question is "Where is COLLECTORS SERIES #3" ? ? ? ? Who at the main camp gives out the catalog numbers???? Argggg, sequences, sequences...sequences ! ! ! ! ! See my "What's new(s)" page for the breakdown or summery of all these new releases www.intplsrv.net/hawkman/whatsnew.html Hawkman From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Tue Aug 24 15:38:11 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:38:11 -0500 Subject: HW: Daze Message-ID: Dan Witt wrote: > Just got back from sd99, thought I'd post a bit. Great event, probably > as good as the 97 festival. Friday night Tribe of Cro had already been > a lost cause but then Helios Creed pulled a no-show, real bummer both > bands didn't make it. But, luckily Born To Go were good and ready to > Go, and they did get on stage and go and go and go, really classic > crunching spacerock that went on for a full two hours(which included a > 20+ minute "Orgone Accumulator"), great songs too, "Spacerock City" > brought a grin to my face. Alien planetscapes played a good rocking set > this year, not as jazzy previous years. Of course Saturday was Nik > headlining, another great show. Nik played Sonic Attack, Brainstorm, > Freefall, Anubis, Watching the Grass Grow, D-rider, Ejection, Master of > the Universe, You Shouldn't do That, and maybe one or two that eludes > me. After the show Nik appeased the audience with solo sax versions of > Silver Machine, The Right Stuff, Space Invaders, I'm a Bad Egg(?), Black Egg I believe (?).I got Silver Machine on tape! (and possibly some of the other ones are elsewhere on the cassette. what a riot!) That was such a great show! The projections were great, though it was difficult to choose between staring almost straight up at the "screen", and Nik's outrageous costume. What I loved particularly was the stock footage of fighter jets (no starfighters though i noticed : )) during Ejection. Being the first time ever seeing Nik Turner, i have to say it was overwhelming. From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Aug 24 14:41:52 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:41:52 +0100 Subject: hawkwind members list In-Reply-To: <199908241756.TAA17893@mail.home.ins.de> Message-ID: Dear Bernhard, wow, that swamps my effort rather :-) I didn't know Dave Anderson did a second stint, was this just as guest? Also, for what it's worth, Deleriums's Psychedelic Archive claim Thomas Crimble also stood in for Brock on guitar at Glastonbury 1971; you only have him as bass player. Interesting to find out Crum and Dibs's real names :-) It might help with the Twink problem if you put Twink "Pink Fairies" Twink in as John Adler, which is I believe his correct moniker. Yours, |Jon From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Aug 24 14:56:45 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:56:45 EDT Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out Message-ID: In a message dated 8/24/99 12:49:31 PM, Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: << Essentially rough-arsed twelve-bar boogies>> ======= nary a 12-bar in the whole goldurn catalog and other than "orgone accumulator" i cant think of any "boogies", either. a description i read long ago, "the world's only 3 chord art-rock band" would have been more to the point. thanks for the typeage, andy "<>" From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Aug 24 15:03:03 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:03:03 +0100 Subject: hawkwind members list Message-ID: > Interesting to find out Crum and Dibs's real names :-) It might >help with the Twink problem if you put Twink "Pink Fairies" Twink in as >John Adler, which is I believe his correct moniker. Yours, > |Jon Dibs is Jonathan Derbyshire-Hulme (source Adrift In The Ether, book by Christopher Williams - a superb study of the current UK underground scene available from Delerium/Freak Emporium). Don't know about Crum though (he's mentioned both as part of the Agents of Chaos and his own band, the Moonloonies, in the book) Nick From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Aug 24 14:36:28 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 14:36:28 -0400 Subject: Get out yur wallets, Folks! Message-ID: Hawkman said... >Well, if you haven't been to CDZone in the last day or two, >there's 11 new hawkwind CD's coming out. My mind-blowing >question is "Where is COLLECTORS SERIES #3" ? ? ? ? Here's the list (below). Wow!! What is all this stuff? Well, perhaps Atomhenge 1976 *is* Collector's Series 3? So, these are all releases from the band itself obviously, based on the catalog numbers matching what they started with Hawkwind 1997. That was No. 1 wasn't it? So what's number two, I ask? I didn't miss anything, did I? Anyway do you suppose the entire Weird Tapes series is archived in this list of stuff? Will these releases all be Passport only thingies?? And in that case, will it start becoming a pain in the ass for us folks outside the UK to continually deal with currency issues each time one of these trickles out? The first two coming out together will help a little, but it would be nice not to have to deal with this each time. Last time I simply sent US$ and Dave sent the thing to me, but I gather that's not ideal for them. BTW, is EBS still alive, or is this what EBS has become? Keith H. (FAA) P.S. A rumour that Griffin has once again closed up shop (already) passed my way this past weekend. Any truth there? >From Stephan's page... 8/24/ 1999 New release "Collectors Series 1" HAWKVP3CD (OCT 25) 8/24/ 1999 New release "Collectors Series 2" HAWKVP4CD (OCT 25) 8/24/ 1999 New release "Atom Henge 1976" HAWKVP5CD 8/24/ 1999 New release "Collectors Series 4" HAWKVP6CD 8/24/ 1999 New release "Collectors Series 5" HAWKVP7CD 8/24/ 1999 New release "Collectors Series 6" HAWKVP8CD 8/24/ 1999 New release "Collectors Series 7" HAWKVP9CD 8/24/ 1999 New release "Weird 106" HAWKVP10CD 8/24/ 1999 New release "Weird 107" HAWKVP11CD 8/24/ 1999 New release "Family Tree" HAWKVP12CD 8/24/ 1999 New release "Live in Nottingham" HAWKVP13CD From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Tue Aug 24 16:14:40 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:14:40 +0100 Subject: Get out yur wallets, Folks! Message-ID: >Hawkman said... > >>Well, if you haven't been to CDZone in the last day or two, >>there's 11 new hawkwind CD's coming out. My mind-blowing >>question is "Where is COLLECTORS SERIES #3" ? ? ? ? > Err, without wishing to appear too ignorant, what is CDZone and how come all this (unreleased) HW stuff is listed there? Cheers, Nick From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Aug 24 17:28:31 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:28:31 +0100 Subject: Get out yur wallets, Folks! In-Reply-To: <199908241950.PAA13843@mail1.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Looking at my Hawkwind 1997, its serial number is HAWKVP999 - and Kris did drop a teaser about the Weird CD covers looking nice... EBS has been in sort of suspended animation - Alan was pretty involved with running it, until he left, is my understanding. Doug's hoping to get Warrior and PXR5 out on EBS in due course. --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Tue Aug 24 17:33:07 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:33:07 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Set-list Message-ID: "Space Does Not Care" 8/21/99, 88.3 fm KUCR, Saturdays 7-9 pm PST 1.Helios Creed--Tele-vision 2.Farflung--Landing on Cydonia 3.Magic Mushroom Band--Pictures in My Mind 4.Hawkwind--Iron Dream (Quark) 5.Robert Calvert--The Greenfly and the Rose 6.Banco de Gaia--Mafich Arabi (Live at Glastonbury) 7.Can--I'm So Green 8.The Brain--Precambrian Shuffle/Rust 9.Melting Euphoria--Portals of the Past (She Wants to Take Us...) 10.Amon Duul II--Wolf City 11.Voco Kesh--We Took the Wrong Step Years Ago 12.Hawkwind-- " " " 13.ST-37--Night Jetz 14.Kraftwelt--Deranged (Zero Gravity Mix, from Space Box) 15.Guru Guru--Space Ship 16.Anubian Lights--Field of Reeds BTW: 1.If you want to be added to the SDNC mailing list to receive play-lists by e-mail, let me know: chuckrecs at aol.com. 2.If you do _not_ care about "Space Does Not Care", e-mail me and I will remove you from the mailing list. Thanks, Chuck From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Tue Aug 24 17:51:05 1999 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:51:05 EDT Subject: HW: Daze Message-ID: In a message dated 8/24/99 11:40:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, antisol at SOFTHOME.NET writes: << > me. After the show Nik appeased the audience with solo sax versions of > Silver Machine, The Right Stuff, Space Invaders, I'm a Bad Egg(?), Black Egg I believe (?) >> "Little Black Egg" is the title of that track, it is a cover by the (Oh I forget...from the 60's) and it';s on the Blood and Bone ep bob http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Tue Aug 24 19:13:20 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 19:13:20 -0400 Subject: OFF: perfect frond forever Message-ID: dont know if its old or new news, but click on this: http://furious.com/perfect/bevisfrond.html interview with Nick! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Tue Aug 24 15:37:55 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:37:55 +0100 Subject: OFF: 199 BOC Tape Swap In-Reply-To: <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD03F09FE0@emss05m03.sanders .lmco.com> Message-ID: At 07:05 24/08/99 -0400, you wrote: >Good Morning, > >Just wondering if anyone out there is stilll receiving/sending tapes? > > > Having made a copy, I'm on the verge of forwarding Jon Jarrett's tape to Texas Thanks Jon....lots of goodies *GRINNZ* ChrisW ObCD: King Crimson Live on Broadway (from the DGM Collectors Club) Totally ****ing awesome "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Tue Aug 24 15:39:30 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:39:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: 199 BOC Tape Swap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 12:59 24/08/99 +0100, you wrote: >Rather embarrassingly, I lost Chris Baxley's address, so I haven't sent >anything along - so Chris, if you're there, drop me a note and I'll send on >Santtu's excellent space-rock tape! > >--Andy > As co-ordinator, you should reprimand yourself most severely *snigger* "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Tue Aug 24 15:43:43 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:43:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: 1999 BOC Tape Swap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 16:55 24/08/99 +0100, you wrote: >On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Hall, Russell J wrote: > >> Just wondering if anyone out there is stilll receiving/sending tapes? > > Oog. Getting there, sorry... Yours, > Jon > >P.S. Well, there's this thesis then three job applications and moving >house. So probably next week (argh! Can't make Terrastock!) Much sympathy, Helen's wrassling with her MA dissertation, while trying to work as a temp (well, one of us needs to work!), and find time for her annual trip to Cap d'Agde (frowns disapprovingly)... Cheers, ChrisW "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Aug 24 19:05:04 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:05:04 -0700 Subject: HW: Daze Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:51:05 EDT, Bob Lennon wrote: >In a message dated 8/24/99 11:40:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >antisol at SOFTHOME.NET writes: > ><< > me. After the show Nik appeased the audience with solo sax versions of > > Silver Machine, The Right Stuff, Space Invaders, I'm a Bad Egg(?), > > Black Egg I believe (?) >> > >"Little Black Egg" is the title of that track, it is a cover by the (Oh I >forget...from the 60's) and it';s on the Blood and Bone ep The Nightcrawlers. A pretty obscure garage band from Florida who released one LP in the 1960s that's now (natch) a collectors item. I thought it was great hearing Nik do "Space Invaders" and "Little Black Egg" - especially the audience participation on "Space Invaders" (Nik: "All right now, you all have to do the nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh."). Too bad I didn't yell "Bones of Elvis" loud enough! I don't have much time to add to what everyone else has said, but it was a great weekend, and really fantastic to meet up with some of the list folks who made it there. Especially joining Larry and Carl (and Ross and Ian and the great Doug Walker - I'll second the MVP nomination) onstage! Unfortunately I missed Nik's post-Strange Daze show in Cleveland/Lakewood due to family obligations. Once again, cheers to Jim Lascko for pulling off an amazing event; lookin' forward to next year's ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com P.S. Some changes have been made to the Primordial Undermind/Salamander/Overhang Party tour schedule - the Rochester show replacing Buffalo, and an additional Boston area show, for instance. Everything is not yet finalized, so I'll post the schedule again in a week or two when in it ... From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Tue Aug 24 20:00:39 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:00:39 -0400 Subject: BOC: say what? Message-ID: Dig this, according to www.bocfanclub.com: It was at this time that the band was named, by Sandy Pearlman, ?Blue Oyster Cult.? (The umlaut being added later by Allen Lanier). ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ! I was always under the impression from everything i've read prior to the website's history that Richard Meltzer gave the band the almighty umlaut. Hmmmmmm Cranking Tyrrany mofi, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From vince-l at EROLS.COM Tue Aug 24 20:03:37 1999 From: vince-l at EROLS.COM (Vince LeGrand) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:03:37 -0400 Subject: HW: Distant Horizons Message-ID: I bought a copy of Hawkwind's Distant Horizons at SD99. The liner says there are 11 songs (Love in Space being track 11), but my CD player tells me there are only 10. Is my CD player wacked or are there only 10 tracks? Thanks. From sprawl at BBOARD.COM Tue Aug 24 20:43:31 1999 From: sprawl at BBOARD.COM (Sprawl) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 20:43:31 -0400 Subject: HW: Distant Horizons Message-ID: It's the CD. They are all like that. One of the prologues got listed, if I remember correctly? I think the one leading into LIS, which makes the last two listed, actually a single track. >From Distant Memory, and so- suspect. -----Original Message----- From: Vince LeGrand To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 8:06 PM Subject: HW: Distant Horizons >I bought a copy of Hawkwind's Distant Horizons at SD99. The liner says there >are 11 songs (Love in Space being track 11), but my CD player tells me there >are only 10. Is my CD player wacked or are there only 10 tracks? > >Thanks. From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Tue Aug 24 20:59:06 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:59:06 +0900 Subject: HW: The Early Years??? Message-ID: Found this listing at cdparadise.com, thought it might amuse? Children's Video (Pal) Chronicle - Black Sword - Ntsc; Hawkwind Vid ?12.05 (Normal Price ?13.85) Chronicle Of The Black - Ntsc; Hawkwind Vid ?12.05 (Normal Price ?13.85) Dave From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Aug 24 22:51:09 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 22:51:09 -0400 Subject: SD'99 Message-ID: Bob.... Saw that you used my terrible-resolution *.gif of my ad poster from last year in your Hawk US Issue 7. Sorry about that...I didn't know how to properly export them last year. So, here's the '99 version of my ad, with proper 300 dpi resolution. Feel free to use it in your next issue, if you like. See you next year! Keith -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Embarrassing, quoi! --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From colum26 at YAHOO.COM Wed Aug 25 04:45:54 1999 From: colum26 at YAHOO.COM (colm mcwilliams) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 01:45:54 -0700 Subject: Michael Moorcock speaks Message-ID: Hello there all you Hawksters, You haven't heard from me for a while as I have been happy justing lurking around the list. But i have something interesteing to tell you all. I to have read the MOJO issue about hawkwind and great that it might be i don't agree with the slagging off of the charisma era of the bands history. This is the period of hawkind that i first got into when i was a kid courtesy of my dad and my favourite album is Quark, Strangness and Charm. Calvert really took the band in a different and new direction then and I for one appreciated it. Anyway enough of my moanings what i am mailing you all about is the answer to a question that i posed Michael Moorcock(yes the one and only!) on the nomad of the time streams website(address:http://www.multiverse.org). I asked him about his involvment if any in the 30th aniversary reunion at brixton academy. Here is his reply and my intial question: "Mike, Seeing that Hawkwind are talking about staging a huge concert for there 30th aniversary at Brixton Acamdemy, which it has been said will feature Hawkwind members from all lineups of the band. Have you been invited to take part? Will you be in attendence and will we get any spoken word/singing/whatever participation from you with the band on stage? cheers colm" Mike's Answer I was talking to Dave Brock about this earlier. There appeared to be two sets of people organising the event. One set included Doug Smith. I won't do business with Doug Smith. If he's involved, I'm not. I think Dave understood that, so the chances are I won't be doing anything with the band, which is a disappointment, since it would be a chance to meet a lot of old friends, but there you go. Best, MM This question was answered on 8/23/99 So Michael doesn't get on with Doug Smith? Anway i thought i would share that interesting information with you all. cheers colm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From colum26 at YAHOO.COM Wed Aug 25 05:07:37 1999 From: colum26 at YAHOO.COM (colm mcwilliams) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 02:07:37 -0700 Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out Message-ID: Hawkwinds One of johnny rottens fav bands eh? I didn't read that in his autobiography. Why is it that no one famous ever acknoledges hawkwind as a fav band or an infulence on there own material(even though its obvious that they are) in interviews. Take for example Primal Scream they covered Motorhead on ther last album it resembled the hawkwind one not motorheads version but i can't remmeber any interview with the band acknowledging hawkind.I always thought there was some kind of stigma surrounding liking hawkwind. colm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From colum26 at YAHOO.COM Wed Aug 25 05:05:13 1999 From: colum26 at YAHOO.COM (colm mcwilliams) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 02:05:13 -0700 Subject: hawkwind members list Message-ID: when a saw hawkwind a brighton academy for one of there 24 hr extravaganza's(the one aphex twin supported them!) they brought on one of the members of astralasia for the encore of spirit of the age with calverts vocals on DAT. ALso i remember DAve Brock said in an interview i read somewhere that he has two members of astralasia playing live with them sometime ago but it didn't work out or soemthing. Also Salt tank there where involoved in a single of two with hawkwind as well. colm --- Nick Lee wrote: > ->Dave Brock > >Dave Anderson > >Terry Ollis > >Dik Mik > >Nick Turner > >John Harrison > >Mick Slattery > >Huw Lloyd Langton > >Twink > >Bob Calvert > >Del Dettmar > >Lemmy Kilminster > >Simon King > >Tim Blake > >Mike Moorcock > >Simon House > >Alan Powell > >Clive Beamer > >Andy Dunkley > >Paul Rudolph > >Adrian Shaw > >Harvey Bainbridge > >Martin Griffin > >Paul Hayles > >Steve Swindells > >Ginger Baker > >Twink (roadie) > >Keith Hale > >Dead Fred > >Danny Thompson > >Alan Davey > >Dumpy > >Crum > >Richard Chadwick > >Bridget Wishart > >Ron Tree > >Jerry Richards > >Captain Rizz > > How about Ande Anderson (spelling?) and Rick > Martinez both drums c.1984? > Why does Twink get in twice? Should.t that be Clive > Deamer not Beamer? > (drums again c.1984! This is getting a bit Spinal > Tap!) Also Viv Prince, I > believe, played drums for a bit around 71-ish. Does > Steve Bemand (guitar in > lieu of Brock for the Europe '91 tour) count? Then > of course there's Mick > Kirton who drummed (!) briefly in 1988. And if Andy > Dunkley gets a mention > surely Stacia should, and what of Tony Crerar and > Kris, all are credited? > > Nick > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Aug 25 05:44:05 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:44:05 +0100 Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out In-Reply-To: <19990825090737.21181.rocketmail@web209.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > Hawkwinds One of johnny rottens fav bands eh? I've heard this one a few times - sometimes it's claimed he was a Hawkwind roadie, but I don't think that's true. Mind you, knowing Rotten, he might just say he likes HW to piss people off. > > I didn't read that in his autobiography. Why is it that no one famous > ever acknoledges hawkwind as a fav band or an infulence on there own > material(even though its obvious that they are) in interviews. Take for > example Primal Scream they covered Motorhead on ther last album it > resembled the hawkwind one not motorheads version but i can't remmeber > any interview with the band acknowledging hawkind.I always thought > there was some kind of stigma surrounding liking hawkwind. > > colm That's for sure! The line in the Time Out review about HW being the "bridge between psychedelia and punk" was spot on, and got me thinking. It's sort of against received wisdom that such a thing could even be; in the user-friendly blister-packaged Rock Circus-style history of popular music, punk didn't even exist before Johnny said "shit" to Bill Grundy. But it ain't so - for instance, in the press clippings on hawkwind.com, you'll find in an item from February 1975: "Their music sounds like good, solid punk rock to me." And a couple of years ago, there was an exhibit of punk rock art at the Festival Hall, purporting to show how punk design was radically different from all that had gone before. And what was one of the key exhibits? Barney Bubbles' sleeve designs for Elvis Costello! They could have had a much more interesting exhibit showing how punk had in fact *evolved* from what had happened before, and that what happened in 1976 was just the media catching up with it some years after the fact. It's all symptomatic of something, anyway - Hawkwind have always been rock's awkward squad, never conforming to any of the nice little genre labels. (Like "hippy-drippy prog-rock bollocks,", a form I never had much time for myself. :) --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 25 07:20:07 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:20:07 EDT Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out In-Reply-To: <19990825090737.21181.rocketmail@web209.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > From: colm mcwilliams Why is it that no one famous > ever acknoledges hawkwind as a fav band or an infulence on there own > material(even though its obvious that they are) in interviews. With the obvious exception of Dave Wyndorf... theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 25 07:33:50 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:33:50 EDT Subject: nick interview? In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990824160504.008e2bb0@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: Damn! I deleted Jason's post giving a url for Nick's interview. can you re-post it? theo From colum26 at YAHOO.COM Wed Aug 25 08:12:53 1999 From: colum26 at YAHOO.COM (colm mcwilliams) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 05:12:53 -0700 Subject: nick interview?- repost Message-ID: REPOSTED! dont know if its old or new news, but click on this: http://furious.com/perfect/bevisfrond.html interview with Nick! --- "Ted Jackson jr. s2h2" wrote: > Damn! > I deleted Jason's post giving a url for Nick's > interview. can you > re-post it? > > theo > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Aug 25 08:30:25 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:30:25 EDT Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out Message-ID: In a message dated 8/25/99 5:43:58 AM, Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM writes: <<> Hawkwinds One of johnny rottens fav bands eh? I've heard this one a few times - sometimes it's claimed he was a Hawkwind roadie, but I don't think that's true. Mind you, knowing Rotten, he might just say he likes HW to piss people off. >> ======================= yeah, i'd read the "hawkwind roadie" mention before too, allegedly on the "space ritual" tour... in tandem w/references to "hundreds" of acid trips... "<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Aug 25 08:33:05 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:33:05 EDT Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out Message-ID: In a message dated 8/25/99 7:20:42 AM, tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU writes: <<> From: colm mcwilliams Why is it that no one famous > ever acknoledges hawkwind as a fav band or an infulence on there own > material(even though its obvious that they are) in interviews. >> =============== yeah yeah, and ian anderson disavowed the influence of roland kirk, for that matter ^_~ "<>" From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 25 08:43:42 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:43:42 +0100 Subject: hawkwind members list In-Reply-To: Nick Lee's message of Tue, 24 Aug 1999 18:22:47 +0100 Message-ID: Nick Lee writes: > ->Dave Brock > >Dave Anderson > >Terry Ollis > >Dik Mik > >Nick Turner > >John Harrison > >Mick Slattery > >Huw Lloyd Langton > >Twink > >Bob Calvert > >Del Dettmar > >Lemmy Kilminster > >Simon King > >Tim Blake > >Mike Moorcock > >Simon House > >Alan Powell > >Clive Beamer > >Andy Dunkley > >Paul Rudolph > >Adrian Shaw > >Harvey Bainbridge > >Martin Griffin > >Paul Hayles > >Steve Swindells > >Ginger Baker > >Twink (roadie) > >Keith Hale > >Dead Fred > >Danny Thompson > >Alan Davey > >Dumpy > >Crum > >Richard Chadwick > >Bridget Wishart > >Ron Tree > >Jerry Richards > >Captain Rizz > > How about Ande Anderson (spelling?) and Rick Martinez both drums c.1984? I forgot Martinez. Who's Ande Anderson? > Why does Twink get in twice? There were two: Twink from Pink Fairies and Twink the roadie who took over from Tim Blake when he quit on tour in 1980. > Should.t that be Clive Deamer not Beamer? Yes, sorry. > (drums again c.1984! This is getting a bit Spinal Tap!) Also Viv Prince, I > believe, played drums for a bit around 71-ish. That rings a bell. > Does Steve Bemand (guitar in > lieu of Brock for the Europe '91 tour) count? Yep. > Then of course there's Mick > Kirton who drummed (!) briefly in 1988. And if Andy Dunkley gets a mention > surely Stacia should, and what of Tony Crerar and Kris, all are credited? Maybe we should stick to folks who played onstage. > Nick FoFP From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Aug 25 09:17:38 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:17:38 EDT Subject: OFF:Fwd: Latest Terrastock News & Netcast Info Message-ID: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Ptolemaic Terrascope Subject: Latest Terrastock News & Netcast Info Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 03:14:39 -0400 Size: 3073 URL: From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Wed Aug 25 08:27:50 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:27:50 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind legacy In-Reply-To: <19990825090737.21181.rocketmail@web209.mail.yahoo.com>; from colm mcwilliams on Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 02:07:37AM -0700 Message-ID: I am convinced that Hawkwind (and Blue Oyster Cult) will get their due, someday. Sort of like it took 25 years for Black Sabbath's influence to be owned up to (and no, I'm not suggesting that Hawkwind is as influential as Sabbath). Some bands are never recognised in their own time... but someday, people are going to look back at the Hawkwind legacy and be awed by what they accomplished, with virtually no recognition or support. Steve swann at plutonia.com On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 02:07:37AM -0700, colm mcwilliams wrote: > Hawkwinds One of johnny rottens fav bands eh? > > I didn't read that in his autobiography. Why is it that no one famous > ever acknoledges hawkwind as a fav band or an infulence on there own > material(even though its obvious that they are) in interviews. Take for > example Primal Scream they covered Motorhead on ther last album it > resembled the hawkwind one not motorheads version but i can't remmeber > any interview with the band acknowledging hawkind.I always thought > there was some kind of stigma surrounding liking hawkwind. > > colm > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed Aug 25 09:44:30 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:44:30 -0400 Subject: BOC: What Gives? Message-ID: > Excuse my lack of courtesy today but WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON WITH THE BOC > RELEASES? A short while ago didn't someone post something on the list from > the BOC Fan Club that both the remastered Sony GH package and the KBFH would > be released late Aug? I know I'm not dreaming because I cut and pasted that > thread to a bulletin board elsewhere. > > How come Sony of KBFH don't show these discs? CDNow never heard of either > one. WHAT THE FARK IS GOING ON? > Are you really surprised by this? Have you forgotten the days back in the early-mid 90s when the album was always only a few months away? Actually, ICE magazine mentioned the release date of the KBFH disc as Sept. 21st I believe - Bolle doesn't believe that date is real, based on his understanding of how far along production is -- he expects later in 1999 is more realistic. Bolle also just announced a mid-October release date for "Don't Fear The Reaper: The Best of BOC" (don't you just *LOVE* THAT title!). Presumably there will be some cool liner notes, and the stuff will be remastered, but most hard-core fans will probably figure "so what - who needs another GH compilation?". I suppose some of the AOL crowd will be pleased to know that they had a hand in the selection - but since the ground rules were always picking the stuff that the general population would most consider BOC's best, there won't be anything too out of the ordinary in my opinion - no demos, rare live stuff, or even some of those cool obscure tunes like, say, "Quicklime Girl". It will be "The Big Three and 13 other songs that you've heard over and over and over ..." On alt.music.blueoystercult a few weeks back, I proposed Sony put out a new GH compilation called: "Don't Fear the Reaper: BOC's Greatest Hit" And I came up with at least a dozen variations (live and studio) of the song that could be used as tracks. I mean, what the hell... John From jswartz at MITRE.ORG Wed Aug 25 09:44:33 1999 From: jswartz at MITRE.ORG (John A. Swartz) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:44:33 -0400 Subject: BOC: say what? Message-ID: f Ungodly Vision > > Dig this, according to www.bocfanclub.com: > It was at this time that the band was named, by Sandy Pearlman, ?Blue > Oyster Cult.? (The umlaut being added later by Allen Lanier). > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ! > I was always under the impression from everything i've read prior to the > website's history that Richard Meltzer gave the band the almighty umlaut. > The story was reported in a magazine years ago was that Meltzer came up with the umlaut. Bolle Gregmar (fanclub prez) has stated in the past that it was Allen that came up with it. Who's right? I'm not sure, but since the fanclub website has Bolle's fingerprints all over it (although Melne is the webmaster), I'm not surprised that it says Allen added the umlaut. John From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 25 09:54:29 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:54:29 EDT Subject: Hawkwind legacy In-Reply-To: <19990825082750.A1096@plutonia.com> Message-ID: > From: Stephen Swann > I am convinced that Hawkwind (and Blue Oyster Cult) will get their > due, someday. Sort of like it took 25 years for Black Sabbath's > influence to be owned up to (and no, I'm not suggesting that Hawkwind > is as influential as Sabbath). Some bands are never recognised in > their own time... but someday, people are going to look back at the > Hawkwind legacy and be awed by what they accomplished, with > virtually no recognition or support. Well, Metallica paid BOC the ultimate tribute, and you could argue Monster Magnet has given HW a similar tribute. Perhaps the future is now... theo From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Aug 25 08:42:50 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 08:42:50 -0400 Subject: SD'99 Message-ID: Hi Folks.... AGGGHHH! Son of a bitch!! Did I really send that *.gif to the list by accident? My sincerest apologies for those whose servers coughed and hacked over that one!!! I should know better. Keith H. (FAA) From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 25 07:14:49 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:14:49 +0100 Subject: HW: MOJO In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 13:33 17/08/99 , M S Wright wrote: >I have just got the September edition of Mojo, and they have finally got >around to doing a piece on HW. Only read the 1st half, but it is quite >good, with quotes from Lemmy, Dave, Nik, Doug, and with some new as well >as well known photos. I read this in the shop the other day, and it is pretty good, except for being too skimpy on post-70's HW. I realise that the 70's were when the band were most popular, and arguably most creative, but I think the article could at least have pointed readers to the best of the post-70's albums -- say Live Chronicles and Palace Springs for live albums, and Electric Teepee and Alien 4 for studio ones. And I'm not sure whether it mentioned the Stonehenge festivals; if not, it should have done. On the positive front, there was a half-page ad opposite the article for the recent re-releases, which will hopefully encourage some people to try them out. Dave. From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 25 09:00:44 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:00:44 +0100 Subject: HW: Mixing It, 22-Jun-1992 Message-ID: I'm clearing out a load of old tapes, and came across a tape of Radio 3's "Mixing It" from 22nd June, 1992, which included Electric Teepee. For anyone who's interested, here's the brief discussion between the two presenters (Mark Russell and Robert Sandall) about the track. For context, Radio 3 is the BBC's serious culture station -- lots of classical music, original compositions, etc. "Mixing It" is a weekly programme that plays music from all sorts of genres, especially music that crosses genres or defies categorisation. Immediately before the Hawkwind track, they played a track by Percy Jones, who used to be in Brand X. Then came Electric Teepee, and then these comments: --------- MR: Well, what was that second mystery item? Well we're continuing the "where are they now?" theme, and I'm sure you will be stunned when I reveal that it was the title track from the new Hawkwind album. Yes, they're still going! It's called "Electric Teepee" and it's on their own Castle label. [Before that...] I was amazed that Hawkwind were still going. RS: It's lovely to hear the old folks enjoying themselves, isn't it? Yes, I think that anyone who has a soft spot for the old space boogie team really ought to go and listen to this new Hawkwind album. There's only one of the original members left -- Dave Brock -- all the others have either died or left, and it's astonishing really to me that they can still sound as convincing on this album as they did back in the 1970's. There are really only two sorts of songs on this album, I think it has to be said, the more cosmic synthesisery track, that we just heard, and the driving rockers, and the album basically falls into those two parts. But I must say that they really do pull the whole thing off. MR: I suppose, as on that track we've just heard, they're in a way in vogue with all this Ambient House music that's going around. Because mean The Orb, which was fronted by Steve Hillage, was just that sort of music with breakbeat drums. RS: Exactly, and these people have obviously been messing around with electronic sounds for a lot longer than a lot of the younger kind of techno freaks. MR: Shame about the title and the artwork. It's real Roger Dean artwork from the 70's, isn't it? RS: Red Indians in outer space, yeah. MR: Anyway, seeing as we're dwelling in the past, let's move back further back still, to Charlie Mingus... --------- If any of you completists out there want a copy of this tape, just drop me some e-mail. Dave. From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Wed Aug 25 10:37:18 1999 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 00:37:18 +1000 Subject: HW: Spotted! Message-ID: Hi All, I forgot to mention this when I first saw it, and I don't recall anyone else mentioning it. In a few issues past of Fortean Times, there is an advert for an alien (perhaps SCHWA?) themed CD shelf, and what CD do I see leant up against it in the photo? Alien4. You probably have to squint to see it, though. Also in fortean times, Pressurehed gets a mention in a Fortean-themed music section. Just a short paragraph concerning Explaining the Unexplained. That was due to my neighbour sending them a letter about the album. Just thought people might like to know... Max Wilcox From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Aug 25 11:05:56 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:05:56 +0100 Subject: HW: MOJO In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990825120840.0096c870@pophost.tardis.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > On the positive front, there was a half-page ad opposite the article for > the recent re-releases, which will hopefully encourage some people to try > them out. Unless they read the review later in the same issue... --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Wed Aug 25 08:00:22 1999 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 12:00:22 +0000 Subject: OFF: Tull in Albany Message-ID: I'm heading north to see Jethro Tull in Albany this Saturday. Anybody else from Upstate NY going? Anybody know if there's an opening act? -- Nick From mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM Wed Aug 25 11:57:10 1999 From: mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM (Marc Power) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:57:10 -0400 Subject: SD99 Message-ID: DASLUD Larry wrote: > while stumbling around the food table seeking to feed myself, i hear > this english accent call out "larry?! are you the larry who stirs shit up on > BOC-L?" or words to that effect. "i must be", i replied. Yes, that was I. ;-) And that was pretty much what I said, I think I also added that I thought it was 'no bad thing'. I have never met so many BOC-L people in one place at one time before, it was great. Finally met Carl 'Cozmic Runemeister' Anderson, Don 'Spaceship Eyes' Falcone, Doug 'Ceres' Pearson as well as the aforementioned Larry. I am sure that there were many others too, but my capacity for remembering names was somewhat impaired. I do remember that Steve Lindsey had one of the 'NetHawks' T-Shirts. Now I want one. XL or XXL please, where do I send the dough? As for Larry, both he and his compatriots in crime, DAS LUDICROIX did a stirling jobbie, seriously hitting their stride after about ten minutes into their set and creating some very memorable organic spacerock. Doug Walker was going to play with us (BORN to GO) too, but we filled in for Tribe of Cro and Helios Creed's absence and played the friday night, instead of the Saturday slot and Doug arrived sometime during our set. Doug provided some of the highs and lows of SD99, the highs, when he played with Alien Planetscapes, DAS LUDICROIX and Tombstone Valentine and the lows when he was pulled over by the local cops outside the venue on a completely spurious traffic violation pretext, the fuzz just 'happened' to have a K9 unit on hand, ran the dog around the outside of his van, the dog barked, so they then put Doug in cuffs for twenty minutes while they ran sniffer dogs thru his van. Fortunately they released him in time for the AP set, which was awesome. Anubian Lights were very cool, ambienting away spacily, Farflung really rocked and by that time, everyone was ready for Nik. Nik was even better than in 97, made his entrance in a kinda 'space hedgehog' outfit, with a star mask that completely covered his head and had big red spikes. I can't describe it, check out the BORN to GO website for pics: Nik played (and looked!) like a demon. Coming up with some of the best Live SpaceRock I have heard ever. Then, we were treated to a repeat of the 'Nik at Night' solo Sax experience of SD97, already detailed. You have got to hear Nik doing 'The Right Stuff' and 'Little Black Egg' on his own, with the crowd clapping time and doing harmonies and stuff - he did 'In the Mood' with the crowd singing the Woo-Woo's! Later on he played flute with Canis Minor, in the after hours tent. What a fireball of energy and enthusiasm this man (alien?) was, enjoying every moment of the festival with an obvious relish. Other honourable mentions (in no particular order): Thom the world poet (great MC), WOO Revelator, Quarkspace, National Steam, Canis Minor, Sloterdijk, bionaut all rocked (or ambiented). I missed Oranj Climax who opened on friday night, but I am sure that they were excellent too, from the party mood that everyone was in when we got to the site. An incredible time, this festival keeps getting better and better. If you missed out on this one, start making plans for SD2K now. An aside, if anyone has good pics of us (BORN to GO) playing friday night or Alien Planetscapes playing on Saturday, please email me a .gif or .jpg if you can, I would love to put some up on our site. And on another note, Nik told me that he was not going to be involved with the 'Ledge of Darkness' thing. Of course, he can always change his mind. Space! Marc. From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Aug 25 13:40:15 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:40:15 -0700 Subject: hawkwind members list Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:43:42 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >Nick Lee writes: >> How about Ande Anderson (spelling?) and Rick Martinez both drums c.1984? > >I forgot Martinez. Who's Ande Anderson? Andy Anderson. Replaced Martin Griffin in 1983, and was only in Hawkwind briefly before he jumped ship to join ... The Cure (yes, that famous goth/pop band, not to be confused, of course, with The Famous Cure). He played on their 1984 album 'The Top', but I have no idea what happened to him after that. Hawkwind are connected with a lot of weird/unexpected bands, but that strikes me as one of the weirder connections ... And speaking of weird connections, I could have sworn that mr. Lydon mentioned liking Hawkwind in his autobiography, but I don't own a copy myself ... the rumors that he was actually a roadie are untrue, however. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Aug 25 13:42:57 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:42:57 -0400 Subject: NetHawks t-shirts In-Reply-To: <199908251557.LAA28940@monster.cicg-dev.etsd.ml.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Marc Power wrote: => I do remember that Steve Lindsey had one of the 'NetHawks' T-Shirts. => Now I want one. XL or XXL please, where do I send the dough? Which one: Mk. I (full colour with Me. 262) or Mk. II (B&W with standing stones and Hawk with moon, put out by Holmes and Strobridge)? Actually, there's also a Mk. I.5, in which the colour NetHawks t-shirt *also* has the cover picture from _In Search of Space_ on it. To complicate matters, there are apparently even two versions of that, I understand: one in which the NetHawks design is on the back (like I have), and one where it is on the front. (I also have a Mk. I and Mk. II shirt.:) Of course, you expected this, being not unfamiliar with Hawkwind Kollecting... ;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 25 13:58:29 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:58:29 +0100 Subject: NetHawks t-shirts In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:42:57 -0400 Message-ID: Paul Mather writes: > On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Marc Power wrote: > > => I do remember that Steve Lindsey had one of the 'NetHawks' T-Shirts. > => Now I want one. XL or XXL please, where do I send the dough? > > Which one: Mk. I (full colour with Me. 262) or Mk. II (B&W with > standing stones and Hawk with moon, put out by Holmes and Strobridge)? I could probably get some more of those, though the minimum plausible run is a dozen. > Paul. FoFP From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Wed Aug 25 13:59:08 1999 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:59:08 EDT Subject: HW: Spotted! Message-ID: Hmmm..At last someone else on the list whos a fortean times reader!....Hawkwind actualy always seemed pretty fortean to me....Open minded aproach,impossible to quantify and label...there are definitely connections...I recall reading somewhere that FT was one of Bobs favourite reads..any calvert fans out there recall the source for that?? or was I just dreaming it? From nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET Wed Aug 25 14:04:34 1999 From: nick.lee2 at VIRGIN.NET (Nick Lee) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:04:34 +0100 Subject: hawkwind members list Message-ID: >> How about Ande Anderson (spelling?) and Rick Martinez both drums c.1984? > >I forgot Martinez. Who's Ande Anderson? > He was one of Nik's mates, drummed for a bit in '84, he also played with the likes of Steve Hillage around the late 70's early 80's. Nick From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Wed Aug 25 13:06:20 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:06:20 -0400 Subject: SD99 In-Reply-To: <199908251557.LAA28940@monster.cicg-dev.etsd.ml.com>; from Marc Power on Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 11:57:10AM -0400 Message-ID: On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 11:57:10AM -0400, Marc Power wrote: > > I do remember that Steve Lindsey had one of the 'NetHawks' T-Shirts. > Now I want one. XL or XXL please, where do I send the dough? We haven't done a T-shirt run for a while. Frankly, I wouldn't mind another one or two myself, except that this time, I'd get the one with the _ISoS_ pic on the back. My wife has one of those, and it's much cooler than the front-only version. Also, hopefully next time around, the ME262's jets will show up, so it won't be a glider anymore. ;-) Steve From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Aug 25 14:28:30 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:28:30 -0400 Subject: SD99 In-Reply-To: <19990825130620.A12409@plutonia.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Stephen Swann wrote: => We haven't done a T-shirt run for a while. Frankly, I wouldn't mind => another one or two myself, except that this time, I'd get the one with => the _ISoS_ pic on the back. My wife has one of those, and it's much => cooler than the front-only version. My Mk. I.5 has the _ISoS_ pic on the front (and NetHawks pic on the back), which is a bit weird. (I also have a NetHawks-only version, like you.) I understand that the _ISoS_ versions were a limited-run anomalous "accident." (Didn't you do those, Doug?) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Wed Aug 25 15:11:56 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:11:56 -0400 Subject: OFF: Tull in Albany In-Reply-To: <199908251542.LAA31813@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: At 12:00 PM 8/25/99 +0000, you wrote: >I'm heading north to see Jethro Tull in Albany this Saturday. Anybody >else from Upstate NY going? Anybody know if there's an opening act? > >-- Nick Being in Albnay, i have not heard of any opening act for Ian and co. I won't be at the shopw... im saving my dough for the one later in september in Syracuse. THe venue there (Landmark Theatre) is the BEST place i've seen the band play in (that and it's my hometown). Enjoy the show! let us know how it went Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM Wed Aug 25 15:41:09 1999 From: mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM (Marc Power) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:41:09 -0400 Subject: Nethawks T-Shirts Message-ID: Paul stated: > On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Marc Power wrote: > > => I do remember that Steve Lindsey had one of the 'NetHawks' T-Shirts. > => Now I want one. XL or XXL please, where do I send the dough? > > Which one: Mk. I (full colour with Me. 262) or Mk. II (B&W with > standing stones and Hawk with moon, put out by Holmes and Strobridge)? > > Actually, there's also a Mk. I.5, in which the colour NetHawks t-shirt > *also* has the cover picture from _In Search of Space_ on it. To > complicate matters, there are apparently even two versions of that, I > understand: one in which the NetHawks design is on the back (like I > have), and one where it is on the front. > > (I also have a Mk. I and Mk. II shirt.:) > > Of course, you expected this, being not unfamiliar with Hawkwind > Kollecting... ;-) AND M. Holmes scribed: > I could probably get some more of those, though the minimum plausible > run is a dozen. I rather liked the Mk. I.5, but really, whatever is available. Can you make a guesstimate as to cost? I will buy two, XXL please. Space! Marc. From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Aug 25 16:04:41 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:04:41 EDT Subject: off: "little black egg" Message-ID: ...coulda sworn i had an aircheck w/a version of this song by someone other than the nightcrawlers...guess not. according to info gleaned by the mighty mac SHERLOCK, it was released on lee in 8/65, and then on kapp 11/65 and 11/66 ...found an in-house playlist from KFWB Los Angeles for the week of 3/8-15/67 which has it making its debut at #36. i remember hearing it at least once as an oldie on a phoenix top 40 station circa 1970, and reading about how it was banned in some places for allegedly being about hashish, but if it dates back to '65 i'd kinda doubt it >>though i believed that part until a few minutes ago!<< in addition the the ep doug p. pointed out, it's also on nuggets vol. 6 and CD vol. 2... and much later covered by the lemonheads and tarnation, whoever they are... still gonna check my aircheck tapes for another '60s version...doesnt look good, though. the only other record i can think of to chart in different locales over a year or more's time was "timothy" by the buoys, '70-71. xtra credit for knowing the writer and subject matter for that one! "<>" From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Aug 25 16:26:25 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:26:25 -0400 Subject: off: "little black egg" Message-ID: >in addition the the ep doug p. pointed out, it's also on nuggets vol. 6 and >CD vol. 2... >and much later covered by the lemonheads and tarnation, whoever they are... Is this the same as the one from the ICU video, Imperial Pompadours, and one other ICU album whose name eludes me? I always like the version on the video (audio-wise) the best.... The version off Ersatz the least... "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Aug 25 16:35:17 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:35:17 EDT Subject: off: "little black egg" Message-ID: In a message dated 8/25/99 4:27:55 PM, mordru at FLITE.NET writes: << Is this the same as the one from the ICU video, Imperial Pompadours, and one other ICU album whose name eludes me? >> ====== must be; the sequence began w/talk of mr. turner doing it at strange daze sat. night. "<>" From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 25 16:20:54 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:20:54 +0100 Subject: HW: MOJO In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 16:05 25/08/99 , Andy Gilham wrote: >> On the positive front, there was a half-page ad opposite the article for >> the recent re-releases, which will hopefully encourage some people to try >> them out. > >Unless they read the review later in the same issue... Ah, I didn't see that. I'll take a look next time I'm in town. Dave. From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Wed Aug 25 16:04:31 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:04:31 -0400 Subject: shirts In-Reply-To: ; from Paul Mather on Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 02:28:30PM -0400 Message-ID: On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 02:28:30PM -0400, Paul Mather wrote: > On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Stephen Swann wrote: > > => We haven't done a T-shirt run for a while. Frankly, I wouldn't mind > => another one or two myself, except that this time, I'd get the one with > => the _ISoS_ pic on the back. My wife has one of those, and it's much > => cooler than the front-only version. > > My Mk. I.5 has the _ISoS_ pic on the front (and NetHawks pic on the > back), which is a bit weird. (I also have a NetHawks-only version, like > you.) > > I understand that the _ISoS_ versions were a limited-run anomalous > "accident." (Didn't you do those, Doug?) The very first print run of the Nethawks shirt was offered with or without the _ISoS_ back. I ordered both of mine without, because (a) I was on a student budget at the time, and the back cost extra, plus (b) I thought the shirt would look too busy with stuff on both front and back. Anyway, I was wrong about the back art making it look too busy. Like I said, it's much cooler that way. Maybe the version with the ISoS cover on the *front* was an accident or anomaly... does that make it a BOC-L Kollektor's item? So, now we have 4 different BOC-L shirts: Mk. IA Nethawks original (art by Tim Fulcher) Mk. IB Nethawks original + _ISoS_ back Mk. I.5 Reversed IB Mk. II Hawkwind only version (art by Mike Holmes?) I've never seen a Mk. II shirt (or a I.5 for that matter). Was it offered in A and B versions, like the Mk. I? Steve swann at plutonia.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Wed Aug 25 17:21:20 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 14:21:20 -0700 Subject: off: "little black egg" Message-ID: "Little Black Egg", originally by the Nightcrawlers, is one of those old garage rock chestnuts that's been covered by a zillion bands, including the Imperial Pompadours and ICU. On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:04:41 EDT, Larry wrote: >...coulda sworn i had an aircheck w/a version of this song by someone other >than the nightcrawlers...guess not. It could easily have been by someone else since there are *many* cover versions and I hardly know them all. >according to info gleaned by the mighty mac SHERLOCK, it was released on lee >in 8/65, and then on kapp 11/65 and 11/66 Lee was the local Florida label that originally issued the Nightcrawlers' single, which was such a big local hit that it was picked up by Kapp (the same NYC-area label that released the two original Silver Apples albums), who also released the Nightcrawlers' sole LP (this might be the 11/66 release). >...found an in-house playlist from KFWB Los Angeles for the week of 3/8-15/67 >which has it making its debut at #36. Ah yes, the days when songs could be local hits in several parts of the country without being national hits. Sort of like the Thirteenth Floor Elevators' "You're Gonna Miss Me" - a hit in Texas and San Francisco, but nowhere else. >i remember hearing it at least once as an oldie on a phoenix top 40 station >circa 1970, and reading about how it was banned in some places for allegedly >being about hashish, but if it dates back to '65 i'd kinda doubt it >>though >i believed that part until a few minutes ago!<< hmmm ... I had heard it was banned because it was allegedly about micegenation (interracial relations) ... I guess it's one of those songs like "Louie Louie" that was condemned by people who had no idea what it was actually about, or that the lyrics are ambiguous enough to interpret however you want - the ICU version sounds to me like it's (literally) about an alien creature's egg - I don't get that impression from any of the other original or cover versions! >in addition the the ep doug p. pointed out, it's also on nuggets vol. 6 and >CD vol. 2... ... the original Nightcrawlers version. >and much later covered by the lemonheads Late-80s/early-90s alternapoprock band from Boston led by Evan Dando. Yuck. >and tarnation, whoever they are... Great folksy band from the Bay Area, now defunct. I'm embarassed to say that I've never heard their version, I'll have to check it out. Leader/singer/autoharpist Paula Fraizer is now in another great band called Virginia Dare (with ace producer/recordist Greg Freeman, whose credits include the Faust album on Table of the Elements, on bass). >still gonna check my aircheck tapes for another '60s version...doesnt look >good, though. I don't know of any other 60s versions, but the Pagans (77-era Cleveland punk band) did a great version as a B-side to their "Dead End America" 7" (I think it was that one). Then there are also the three Nik versions, first by the Imperial Pompadours (recorded, of course, after Nik, Trev, Dino and maybe Bob had only heard the song once), and then by ICU proper, with slightly-different versions appearing on the 'Blood and Bone' 12"EP and video. I'm sure that Steve Pond could fill us in on the differences between the vinyl and video versions. A couple good places to get information about songs are the ASCAP and BMI databases, although the ASCAP one is currently down and the BMI one doesn't list "Little Black Egg" (meaning that it's probably controlled by an ASCAP-afilliated publisher): http://www.ascap.com/ace/ACE.html http://www.bmi.com/repertoire/database.html I'm sure there are more versions of the song out there, since it's such a great one (I wouldn't be delving into all this trivia if it wasn't)! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Wed Aug 25 17:59:00 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:59:00 -0400 Subject: shirts have a history as convoluted as Hawkwind!:) In-Reply-To: <19990825160431.A19370@plutonia.com> Message-ID: At 04:04 PM 8/25/99 -0400, you wrote: >On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 02:28:30PM -0400, Paul Mather wrote: >So, now we have 4 different BOC-L shirts: > >Mk. IA Nethawks original (art by Tim Fulcher) >Mk. IB Nethawks original + _ISoS_ back >Mk. I.5 Reversed IB >Mk. II Hawkwind only version (art by Mike Holmes?) I remember waaaay back there was a graphic of one of the shirts (I think the one with the ME 262) on the old BOC-L website. Does it still exist somewhere? If the other versions are around somewhere , they should be put on a website so a vote could be taken of what and how many to print up. After all, (I think) we have new people since then right who are probably dying to be hipper than hip with such a shirt. (I know i don't have one fer one) At least this time we won't have the list swamped in the great "what should be on the shirt debate" that transpired. It took forever to get all the messages during that! :) Just another temple falling, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I'm in a FOUL mood today. Stay outa my way or I'll CRITIQUE YOUR ASS to hell. Just ME, just YOU...a decent song. You wanna see THEM, see THEM. I don't give a ****." - Richard Meltzer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM Wed Aug 25 17:58:03 1999 From: mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM (Marc Power) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:58:03 -0400 Subject: convoluted nethawks T shirts Message-ID: I think we should be trying to create more new original material rather than all these reissues, who do we think we are, Hawkwind? ;-) Space is deep, Marc. It was wriiittteeeeenn: --------------------------------------------------------------- At 04:04 PM 8/25/99 -0400, you wrote: >On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 02:28:30PM -0400, Paul Mather wrote: >So, now we have 4 different BOC-L shirts: > >Mk. IA Nethawks original (art by Tim Fulcher) >Mk. IB Nethawks original + _ISoS_ back >Mk. I.5 Reversed IB >Mk. II Hawkwind only version (art by Mike Holmes?) I remember waaaay back there was a graphic of one of the shirts (I think the one with the ME 262) on the old BOC-L website. Does it still exist somewhere? If the other versions are around somewhere , they should be put on a website so a vote could be taken of what and how many to print up. After all, (I think) we have new people since then right who are probably dying to be hipper than hip with such a shirt. (I know i don't have one fer one) At least this time we won't have the list swamped in the great "what should be on the shirt debate" that transpired. It took forever to get all the messages during that! :) Just another temple falling, Jason From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Aug 25 18:08:06 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:08:06 -0400 Subject: shirts In-Reply-To: <19990825160431.A19370@plutonia.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Stephen Swann wrote: => So, now we have 4 different BOC-L shirts: => => Mk. IA Nethawks original (art by Tim Fulcher) => Mk. IB Nethawks original + _ISoS_ back => Mk. I.5 Reversed IB => Mk. II Hawkwind only version (art by Mike Holmes?) The artwork of Mk. II was also by Tim Fulcher. => I've never seen a Mk. II shirt (or a I.5 for that matter). Was it => offered in A and B versions, like the Mk. I? No, it was front-printed only. I used to have scans of the original artwork up on one of my accounts, but that account was deleted, and so they're currently packed away in a .tar.gz file on another machine. I could bung 'em up on a WWW page, though (along with the _Hawkwind Covers All_ cassette inlay pages, packed away in same .tar.gz file). Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Aug 25 18:04:47 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:04:47 +0100 Subject: NetHawks t-shirts In-Reply-To: <199908251758.SAA07153@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 18:58 25/08/99 +0100, you wrote: >Paul Mather writes: > >> On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Marc Power wrote: >> >> => I do remember that Steve Lindsey had one of the 'NetHawks' T-Shirts. >> => Now I want one. XL or XXL please, where do I send the dough? >> >> Which one: Mk. I (full colour with Me. 262) or Mk. II (B&W with >> standing stones and Hawk with moon, put out by Holmes and Strobridge)? > >I could probably get some more of those, though the minimum plausible >run is a dozen. > >> Paul. > >FoFP I'd be interested...even in my straitened circumstances I could probably rustle up the cash for a t-shirt...XXL of course *GRINNZ* ChrisW ObT-shirtNow: BMC Software DB2 Summit Oct '92 Rotterdam WTC (Ultimo tecno-nerdery) "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Aug 25 18:07:05 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:07:05 +0100 Subject: HW: Spotted! In-Reply-To: <802092ac.24f588ec@aol.com> Message-ID: At 13:59 25/08/99 EDT, you wrote: >Hmmm..At last someone else on the list whos a fortean times >reader!....Hawkwind actualy always seemed pretty fortean to me....Open minded >aproach,impossible to quantify and label...there are definitely >connections...I recall reading somewhere that FT was one of Bobs favourite >reads..any calvert fans out there recall the source for that?? or was I just >dreaming it? Me too...though only sporadically - I like the healthy mix of scepticism and "anythings possible". Unlike some more credulous publications! ChrisW "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Aug 25 18:12:21 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:12:21 +0100 Subject: off: "little black egg" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 16:04 25/08/99 EDT, you wrote: . > >the only other record i can think of to chart in different locales over a >year or more's time was "timothy" by the buoys, '70-71. xtra credit for >knowing the writer and subject matter for that one! > >"<>" That wouldn't be the "Timothy" covered by UFO on their first album would it? ChrisW (In the usual mother induced late night silence) "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Aug 25 19:00:03 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:00:03 EDT Subject: off: "little black egg" Message-ID: In a message dated 8/25/99 6:38:26 PM, desdinova at EARTHLING.NET writes: <<> >the only other record i can think of to chart in different locales over a >year or more's time was "timothy" by the buoys, '70-71. xtra credit for >knowing the writer and subject matter for that one! > >"<>" That wouldn't be the "Timothy" covered by UFO on their first album would it? >> wayyyy back on the first UFO LP? i'd kinda doubt it...what a kick THAT would be... '<>" From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Aug 25 19:09:18 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 19:09:18 EDT Subject: off: Re: "lil' black egg" on BILLBOARD..."timothy" too Message-ID: In a message dated 8/25/99 6:49:45 PM, ceres at sirius.com writes: << Unfortunately, the only song named "Timothy" I know is the one on the first UFO album. So you got me on that piece of trivia. But I do love those obscure 60s psych and 70s punk bands! >> ===== "timothy" was about 3 guys trapped in a cave in; timothy is, ahem, eaten by the other two. rupert holmes would later try to say timothy was a mule, but too late, dude... speaking of 'obscure' i'm looking for the lp by the german group the rattles*, ca 1970, incl the songs "devil's on the loose" and "(i'm a) virgin"...their us 'hit' was 'the witch" on decca. i'm not into spending big bux on vinyl, i just wanna tape... *actually they may have been a us "frat rock" band in the mid-'60s who moved to germany and added a female singer From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Wed Aug 25 20:10:52 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:10:52 -0400 Subject: convoluted nethawks T shirts In-Reply-To: <199908252158.RAA29287@monster.cicg-dev.etsd.ml.com> Message-ID: At 05:58 PM 8/25/99 -0400, you wrote: >I think we should be trying to create more new original material >rather than all these reissues, who do we think we are, Hawkwind? >;-) > At least we can't do multiple Best Ofs like BOC has done :) Alhough... perhaps its not such a bad idea... ISoS on front and whatever the heck is left for the back Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Wed Aug 25 19:58:57 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:58:57 +0900 Subject: convoluted nethawks T shirts Message-ID: Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: > At 05:58 PM 8/25/99 -0400, you wrote: > >I think we should be trying to create more new original material > >rather than all these reissues, who do we think we are, Hawkwind? > >;-) > > > At least we can't do multiple Best Ofs like BOC has done :) > Alhough... perhaps its not such a bad idea... ISoS on front and whatever > the heck is left for the back Don't forget the red, green and gold section inserted for no apparent reason halfway down the back :-) (XL for me please.) Dave From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Wed Aug 25 20:26:25 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:26:25 -0400 Subject: OFF: Holy !>@#@!$$! Message-ID: Hot off of the DGM Diary webpage: Ade & Robert are belewbricated out following an afternoon of brain & ear dribbling. [--->]Larks' Tongues Part IV [<---] began our day with some tasty offsets which defy the brain to lead or follow. Adrian is working with the New Standard Tuning, and learning rapidly. Some exquisite nuances emerge in the middle of what might otherwise be fairly tonal music. Ahhhhh, it's good to be alive. tBS has a new album, (hopefully good) KBFH to be on your feet or on your knees with, 1999 Party was actually seen(!) in a major record store, and the temptation to buy Bevis Frond wafts on the breeze. Not to mention a touring Jethro Tull. Just wait till the coffee wears off, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Aug 25 20:10:15 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:10:15 -0400 Subject: shirts In-Reply-To: <19990825160431.A19370@plutonia.com> Message-ID: >So, now we have 4 different BOC-L shirts: > >Mk. IA Nethawks original (art by Tim Fulcher) >Mk. IB Nethawks original + _ISoS_ back >Mk. I.5 Reversed IB >Mk. II Hawkwind only version (art by Mike Holmes?) > >I've never seen a Mk. II shirt (or a I.5 for that matter). Was it >offered in A and B versions, like the Mk. I? You realize, of course, for this version we are going to have to make some slight alterations, thus creating Mk. III, to continue this tradition and annoy future list-members... Andrew, who will order at least 1.... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Aug 25 20:14:44 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:14:44 -0400 Subject: off: "little black egg" In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990825142120.008e0140@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: >Then there are also the three Nik versions, first by the Imperial >Pompadours (recorded, of course, after Nik, Trev, Dino and maybe Bob had >only heard the song once), and then by ICU proper, with slightly-different >versions appearing on the 'Blood and Bone' 12"EP and video. I'm sure that >Steve Pond could fill us in on the differences between the vinyl and video >versions. The video sounds like a more "normal" vocal, wheras the Blood & Bone version sounds like it has echo and faded out and otherwise transformed somewhat.... Both (to me) sound much better than the IP version. Now I want to know how to get ahold of a recording of the one Nik did at SD99.... (seeing as every version they did was (to me) better than the previous, by now it has to be an absolute masterpiece....) ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Aug 25 20:53:10 1999 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:53:10 -0400 Subject: off: "little black egg" In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990825142120.008e0140@pop.sirius.com> from "Doug Pearson" at Aug 25, 99 02:21:20 pm Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: > >still gonna check my aircheck tapes for another '60s version...doesnt look > >good, though. > > I don't know of any other 60s versions, but the Pagans (77-era Cleveland > punk band) did a great version as a B-side to their "Dead End America" 7" > (I think it was that one). "The Little Black Egg, which was a modest hit, was also covered by Music Explosion, Columbus's Margins and The Kommotions among others. Little Black Egg can also be heard on Nuggets, Vol 6, More Nuggets, Vol 2 (CD) and Nuggets 4-CD box set." So saith Delerium's Psychedelic Archive, http://www.delerium.co.uk/archive/psychtop.html (the quote is from the entry for the Nightcrawlers). They give the following dates: Nightcrawlers 1966 Music Explosion 1967 Kommotions 1965 [sic] Margins (none given) So, can anybody explain what all the fuss is about? Judging by what I heard Saturday night, it seems a pretty silly song -- the kind that should have been a very minor hit and then vanished forever. -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / I'm going to change it, but it's going to take some time. - Linus Torvalds, on Windows's market leadership From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Aug 25 21:26:34 1999 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:26:34 -0400 Subject: shirts In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990825201015.00a4fd50@flite.net> from "Andrew Apold" at Aug 25, 99 08:10:15 pm Message-ID: Andrew Apold wrote: > > >So, now we have 4 different BOC-L shirts: > > > >Mk. IA Nethawks original (art by Tim Fulcher) > >Mk. IB Nethawks original + _ISoS_ back > >Mk. I.5 Reversed IB > >Mk. II Hawkwind only version (art by Mike Holmes?) As I recall it, the Mk. I's weren't really several issues, but rather semicustom orders (kinda like cars). There was the Nethawks-colour artwork, and the ISoS artwork, and you could mix'n'match 'em any way you liked. Have I got that right, Doug? Besides a Nethawks-only and a Nethawks+ISoS, I've got one not yet mentioned: ISoS-only. But again, that's not because there was a run of these, it's just what I asked Doug to have made. (Gee, does that mean maybe I have a HW thing *nobody* else has? Cool! Nah ... someone else must have had one of these made)-: In theory, there are 8 combinations (excluding blank+blank) -- kollektor hell! Dunno how many of those anyone actually requested, though. > You realize, of course, for this version we are going to have to make > some slight alterations, thus creating Mk. III, to continue this > tradition and annoy future list-members... Yah, besides what's been mentioned, there was an error on the Mk. I's. Can't remember exactly, but there was some line X of type that went where line Y was supposed to have been. Count me in for more shirts. Especially if there's another run of Mk. II's. I just saw those for the first time at SD, and I neeeed one! -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / I'm going to change it, but it's going to take some time. - Linus Torvalds, on Windows's market leadership From erics at TELEPRES.COM Wed Aug 25 21:31:47 1999 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:31:47 -0400 Subject: convoluted nethawks T shirts In-Reply-To: <199908252158.RAA29287@monster.cicg-dev.etsd.ml.com> from "Marc Power" at Aug 25, 99 05:58:03 pm Message-ID: Marc Power wrote: > > I think we should be trying to create more new original material > rather than all these reissues, who do we think we are, Hawkwind? > ;-) ROTFL! Yah, how about a Warriors shield, with another knight on the far cliff wearing a BOC logo? > Space is deep, But kollektors' pockets are deeper :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / I'm going to change it, but it's going to take some time. - Linus Torvalds, on Windows's market leadership From DASLUD at AOL.COM Wed Aug 25 22:38:22 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 22:38:22 EDT Subject: off: "little black egg" Message-ID: In a message dated 8/25/99 8:53:36 PM, erics at TELEPRES.COM writes: << So, can anybody explain what all the fuss is about? Judging by what I heard Saturday night, it seems a pretty silly song -- the kind that should have been a very minor hit and then vanished forever. >> ============== no fuss, just an obsession with minutiae; its failure to have vanished forever fueling the desire...inquiring minds wanna know! "<>" From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Aug 25 23:25:34 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 23:25:34 -0400 Subject: off: "little black egg" In-Reply-To: <199908260053.UAA07138@telepres.com> Message-ID: >So, can anybody explain what all the fuss is about? Judging by >what I heard Saturday night, it seems a pretty silly song -- the >kind that should have been a very minor hit and then vanished >forever. You've gotta see the video.... It's available on the ICU cd-rom from Steve Pond, $20, a bargain, you also get the Blood & Bone version, the Imperial Pompadour's Ersatz version, and over 100 other songs... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Thu Aug 26 03:44:13 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:44:13 +0100 Subject: shirts In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 25 Aug 1999 18:08:06 EDT." Message-ID: shirts. blimey, here we go again :-) > On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Stephen Swann wrote: > > => So, now we have 4 different BOC-L shirts: > => > => Mk. IA Nethawks original (art by Tim Fulcher) > => Mk. IB Nethawks original + _ISoS_ back > => Mk. I.5 Reversed IB > => Mk. II Hawkwind only version (art by Mike Holmes?) > > The artwork of Mk. II was also by Tim Fulcher. Actually there is a version 0.1, of which there is exactly 1 shirt (painted on directly). It's a simpler design than all others but I kinda like it. > No, it was front-printed only. I used to have scans of the original > artwork up on one of my accounts, but that account was deleted, and so > they're currently packed away in a .tar.gz file on another machine. I > could bung 'em up on a WWW page, though (along with the _Hawkwind Covers > All_ cassette inlay pages, packed away in same .tar.gz file). Pouring petrol on the embers, I guess I could come up with another design. For once, its my fault ;-) Tim ObCD: Metal Church, _Masterpeace_ From MLee at ESPARTO.ORG Thu Aug 26 03:15:14 1999 From: MLee at ESPARTO.ORG (Mark Lee) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:15:14 +0100 Subject: HW: Adding to it Message-ID: >Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:55:06 +0100 >From: Jonathan Jarrett >Subject: Re: OFF: 1999 BOC Tape Swap >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > >On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Hall, Russell J wrote: > >> Just wondering if anyone out there is stilll receiving/sending tapes? > > Oog. Getting there, sorry... Yours, > Jon fardles, I knew I'd forget something, hand me a screwdriver please matron, my head feels wobbly... Gekke's tape should be on it's way to the states shortly ! Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Aug 26 07:29:51 1999 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Rich Lockwood) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:29:51 +0100 Subject: Tape Swap Message-ID: My tapes from Brian and Mark(?) will be winging their way out, after a small repair job... (My girlfriend's car's tape player took a dislike to the Olivia Tremor Control and snapped it... CRINGE!) Off down to Tandy for a tape splicing kit. :-( Cheers, Rich. From bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Aug 26 08:16:49 1999 From: bthalligan at EARTHLINK.NET (Brian Halligan) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:16:49 -0400 Subject: Tape Swap In-Reply-To: <03a101beefb6$50932720$1701a8c0@richardl.tpd.co.uk> Message-ID: Rich wrote: >My tapes from Brian and Mark(?) will be winging their way out, after a small >repair job... (My girlfriend's car's tape player took a dislike to the >Olivia Tremor Control and snapped it... CRINGE!) > >Off down to Tandy for a tape splicing kit. :-( > >Cheers, > >Rich. I just couldn't resist using a 120min tape, you know? I should have known something like this would happen.... As Mark just wrote that he'll be sending the next tape on, I'll be sending it to you soon after (once it's been rightly copied on strong, durable, 90min tape. ;-) Off to work, Brian From jandl at ENTER.NET Thu Aug 26 08:43:53 1999 From: jandl at ENTER.NET (John & Lynn) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:43:53 -0400 Subject: All future emails Message-ID: Please remove name from list. From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Aug 26 09:19:46 1999 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Rich Lockwood) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:19:46 +0100 Subject: Fw: Tapes / List Bands Message-ID: >>Rich wrote: >> >>>My tapes from Brian and Mark(?) will be winging their way out, after a >small >>>repair job... (My girlfriend's car's tape player took a dislike to the >>>Olivia Tremor Control and snapped it... CRINGE!) >>> >>>Off down to Tandy for a tape splicing kit. :-( >>> >>>Cheers, >>> >>>Rich. >> >>I just couldn't resist using a 120min tape, you know? I should have known >>something like this would happen.... >> >>As Mark just wrote that he'll be sending the next tape on, I'll be sending >>it to you soon after (once it's been rightly copied on strong, durable, >>90min tape. ;-) > > Ah - that'll be it then! Mind you, I fully intend going out and buying Dusk at Cubist Castle this weekend... Y'see - this tape swap thing does work for the record companies! Now I've worked out a way to post to the list again, I suppose I ought to bang on about something or other... What happened to the idea of a 'compilation of list members' bands' tape? Is anyone organising this, or is it another good idea dropped through lack of time? :-( Oh - and for those of you who missed it (like, everyone), it looks as though the mighty BEER POWERED NOISE FRENZY will be regrouping in the New Year as Superdrunk and playing again. Be afraid. Be very afraid. :-) Cheers, Rich. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Aug 26 08:19:57 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:19:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: Faust US tour Message-ID: Hi Folks... Early warning. Faust US dates 10-18-99 New York, NY Knitting Factory 10-19-99 Philadelphia, PA Nicks 10-21-99 Pittsburgh, PA Millvale Industrial Theatre 10-23-99 Chicago, IL Lounge Ax 10-26-99 San Francisco, CA Great American MH Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Their latest Ravvivando is really quite good. Should be interesting! Somebody at SD'99 was telling me about a bizarre show a few years' back where they played next to a RR track and made the trains part of the 'show.' P.P.S. When did Pittsburgh start getting interesting concerts?? So did anyone see Farflung w/o Nik Turner, and how was that? From stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK Thu Aug 26 12:42:28 1999 From: stuarthamilton at CONNECTFREE.CO.UK (Zeitgeist) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:42:28 +0100 Subject: Re. T shirts Message-ID: I'll be up for a couple as large as you can make them XXXL, to accompany my brand new Hibs away top:-) (in-reference for Edinburgh based BOC-Lers) Z Zeitgeist - Reflections Of The Underground - e-zine and freezine http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK "There's no walls in music. It's like water; there's currents." --Corey Harris From akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU Thu Aug 26 13:01:55 1999 From: akomins at MIDWAY.UCHICAGO.EDU (Arin Komins) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:01:55 -0500 Subject: tshirts In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990825230447.007eb580@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: If someone is making t-shirts (or resurrecting t-shirts), put me down for an XL. Arin ------------------------------------------------------------------ Arin Komins akomins at midway.uchicago.edu Web Systems Administrator University of Chicago/NSIT tel: (773)834-4087 1155 E. 60th St. #305A Chicago, IL 60637 fax: (773)702-0559 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU Thu Aug 26 13:33:33 1999 From: Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU (Doug Bates) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:33:33 -0500 Subject: NetHawks t-shirts Message-ID: In the HW tradition maybe we can call the Nethawk t-shirts the Master of the Universe shirt. It should qualify, there are five versions and rumors of reissues. There were two images, that could be used in any combination. Of the possible eight combinations only five were requested. >From memory: front back orders nethawks 77 (even the band got one of these) nethawks nethawks 2 (ok, ok) nethawks ISOS 10 (were you cool in '95?) ISOS nethawks 1 (just me on this one) ISOS 5 (always wanted one, this was my motivation to do this project!) total 95 The most unique request was to place the nethawk image on the back of a Atlanta Falcons sweat-shirt, which seemed 1/4 inch thick. I have regretted not doing more shirts, there were 87 orders. I kept three and gave the others away as gifts. I am a clone, I am not alone -- Doug Bates From Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU Thu Aug 26 13:42:25 1999 From: Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU (Doug Bates) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 12:42:25 -0500 Subject: HW: SD99 Message-ID: I'm still in a daze, how strange... Wow, I love this festival, its seems like only yesterday I was writing SD98 on my tapes. I thank Jim Lasco for pulling this off once again. This is a special event that is becoming an annual family reunion. If you want to help keep this going go to http://www.strange-trips.com and purchase the 2CD SD97, also there is a video of HW from the 97 tour in Chicago. Before I rave about all the good things, I must say THE VENUE SUX AND IT MUST CHANGE for next years festival. Last year it meet the minimum requirements I guess. But now they have invoked silly rules about where to camp ect. This rubbed many the wrong way trust me. Just as people entered this was thrust upon them (negative energy man). We had to pay for an extra night of camping, unlike last year (minor detail, but the little things started to add up). But, the biggie is those flashing blue lights! The cops found us folks, being the threat we are to society its time we left (this world today). I thought Alien Planetscapes were great. They seem to improve every year, but there're new guitarist has really helped. And the bass player drives that whole thing and Doug Walker has really got it together. Its no accident that he always sounds great. As Tribe of Cro and Mr Creed burned there bridges there was a band ready, willing and able to save Friday night. Born to Go stepped up to fill the void and just as important they rose to the occasion! They open with Born to Go (as they should) it was heavy, it was hard, it was spacerock! I think they closed with Orgone Accumulator which was a classic improve. For those unfamiliar with the inventor of said machine, they received a crash course about the man. Way to go Marc that was hilarious! Anyway, BtG went to the next level. There original material was bitch'in. I thought Aunubian Lights played to long, they played alot of new material which was good. But, it seemed to cut into the time allocated for Farflung. Did Farflung sound good or what? Did they bring there're own sound man (not a knock on anyone else)? I want rant about this band because I'm not objective, but I put them at the top of the US spacerockers. Nik, what can I say, not objective here either. D-rider as always is a classic. Its a privilege to see Nik, he said he'll be back next year. I couldn't help but notice how he has slowed down a bit. Makes me appreciate him even more. Sunday, he went swimming and kept going further and further out in the lake. I thought to myself please stop, if something happens I'm not sure I can swim that far in my current state. If I went to do something I ask whoever I was near to keep watching that little head in the middle of the lake and call me if it disappears! :-) A very cool moment: We're at our campsite about 2am, Bionaut is playing just loud enough to hear. Across the lake some dude starts singing/chanting a Native American song for about 5 minutes. His voice was beautiful. Our location was in-between so it was in stereo! It was nice to talk to fellow BOC-l ers, hopefully I made some sense when we talked. I could go on and on, but its back to work PS I'll be surprised if the Ozrics are not signed for SD2K, Eloy seems a long shot at best, assuming there're still together. -- Doug Bates From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Aug 26 14:10:55 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:10:55 -0700 Subject: hawkwind members list Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 10:40:15 -0700, I wrote: >On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 13:43:42 +0100, M Holmes wrote: >>Nick Lee writes: >>> How about Ande Anderson (spelling?) and Rick Martinez both drums c.1984? >> >>I forgot Martinez. Who's Ande Anderson? > >Andy Anderson. Replaced Martin Griffin in 1983, and was only in Hawkwind >briefly before he jumped ship to join ... The Cure ... And, on further research, it turns out that he also played in Steve Hillage's (pre-techno) band before joining Hawkwind. He's on the 'Live Herald' album and a couple of the studio albums around that time. That would have been around the time that Steve and Nik played together on 'Sphynx' (the original recording) and the "Nuclear Waste" single, so describing him as "one of Nik's mates" would seem to make a lot of sense (even though Andy didn't actually play on either of those two records). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Aug 26 14:16:44 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:16:44 -0400 Subject: NetHawks t-shirts In-Reply-To: <305C7F16988BD111B0F300A0246B48A6028C78@tuccster.tucc.uab.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Doug Bates wrote: => There were two images, that could be used in any combination. => Of the possible eight combinations only five were requested. => >From memory: => => front back orders => nethawks 77 (even the band got one of these) => nethawks nethawks 2 (ok, ok) => nethawks ISOS 10 (were you cool in '95?) => ISOS nethawks 1 (just me on this one) Then what is that imposter I have in my drawer??? :-) (I have one printed this way, too, at least I seem to recall. I'll verify tonight...) => I am a clone, I am not alone Indeed, apparently not. The shirts are great, Doug (although a friend still calls it my "Nazi t-shirt" when she sees me wearing it:), and you did a super job producing them. But, I must confess I still dislike the chosen slogan... ;-) Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From erics at TELEPRES.COM Thu Aug 26 14:19:34 1999 From: erics at TELEPRES.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 14:19:34 -0400 Subject: OFF: Faust US tour In-Reply-To: <199908261334.JAA08470@mail2.uts.ohio-state.edu> from "Keith Henderson" at Aug 26, 99 08:19:57 am Message-ID: Keith Henderson wrote: > P.P.S. When did Pittsburgh start getting interesting concerts?? So did > anyone see Farflung w/o Nik Turner, and how was that? About when Toronto stopped :-( -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at telepres.com | | / I'm going to change it, but it's going to take some time. - Linus Torvalds, on Windows's market leadership From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Aug 26 15:26:21 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:26:21 -0400 Subject: NetHawks t-shirts Message-ID: >On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Doug Bates wrote: > >=> There were two images, that could be used in any combination. >=> Of the possible eight combinations only five were requested. >=> >From memory: >=> >=> front back orders >=> nethawks 77 (even the band got one of these) >=> nethawks nethawks 2 (ok, ok) >=> nethawks ISOS 10 (were you cool in '95?) >=> ISOS nethawks 1 (just me on this one) > >Then what is that imposter I have in my drawer??? :-) (I have one >printed this way, too, at least I seem to recall. I'll verify >tonight...) You probably bought it from Eric Bloom and Don Roeser. They're ripping off the list, man! "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU Thu Aug 26 16:02:20 1999 From: Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU (Doug Bates) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:02:20 -0500 Subject: NetHawks t-shirts Message-ID: > >Then what is that imposter I have in my drawer??? :-) (I have one > printed this way, too, at least I seem to recall. I'll verify > tonight...) > > => I am a clone, I am not alone > > Indeed, apparently not. Thus, the "from memory" disclaimer. ;-) > > The shirts are great, Doug (although a friend still calls it my "Nazi > t-shirt" when she sees me wearing it:), and you did a super job > producing them. But, I must confess I still dislike the chosen > slogan... ;-) > Thanks, at the time I knew nothing about graphics and had to work with some rudimentary software. Somehow, the jet engines were left off, I should have caught that. Never cared for the slogan either. I have a friend who saw a HW t-shirt made by Sam ???, and said the Hawk was a slightly modified Nazi symbol. Sam's t-shirts have a certain thematic font that's consistent. When I pulled out the rest of my HW Sam-shirts he just shook his head and ask who has the Nazi infatuation in HW. I said nobody now that Lemmy's gone. :-) Flashback: In '93 I scanned in some of my CD covers which were placed on a FTP server, we thought that was so cool. You see there were very few web pages at the time, I don't think I had a browser back then. And now scanners are half the price and ten times better. I tell ya sunny, we had to pay $20 or more for imports CDs from Ranjit, it was bad. It was none of this four-day and its in your mail box E-commerce stuff. When did this list start '90? I got on just after Electric Teepee came out. -- Doug Bates From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Thu Aug 26 15:04:16 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:04:16 -0400 Subject: shirts In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990825201015.00a4fd50@flite.net>; from Andrew Apold on Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 08:10:15PM -0400 Message-ID: On Wed, Aug 25, 1999 at 08:10:15PM -0400, Andrew Apold wrote: > >So, now we have 4 different BOC-L shirts: > > > >Mk. IA Nethawks original (art by Tim Fulcher) > >Mk. IB Nethawks original + _ISoS_ back > >Mk. I.5 Reversed IB > >Mk. II Hawkwind only version (art by Mike Holmes?) > > > >I've never seen a Mk. II shirt (or a I.5 for that matter). Was it > >offered in A and B versions, like the Mk. I? > > You realize, of course, for this version we are going to have to make > some slight alterations, thus creating Mk. III, to continue this > tradition and annoy future list-members... If we wanted to be really Hawkwind-esque, Mk. III should be a reissue of IA, with different colored sleeves. ;-) Steve swann at plutonia.com From mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM Thu Aug 26 16:14:22 1999 From: mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM (Marc Power) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:14:22 -0400 Subject: SD99 Message-ID: Doug Bates scribed: > Before I rave about all the good things, I must say THE VENUE > SUX AND IT MUST CHANGE for next years festival. What can I say? this is absolutely true, but it's not going to change. Jim got an exceptionally good deal on the site this year and the only reason that he didn't make a ruinous loss and the possibility is there for an SD2K is because of that deal. I don't like then venue, particularly the sanitation, but I will stick it out for another year for the sake of being able to attend and perform at America's only outdoor weekend annual SpaceRock festival. > I thought Alien Planetscapes were great. They seem to improve > every year, but there're new guitarist has really helped. And > the bass player drives that whole thing and Doug Walker has > really got it together. Its no accident that he always sounds > great. Alien Planetscapes are terrific, I thought that the new piece they played that was a bit more rock'n'roll than the rest featured some really great guitar lines from Josh, their guitarist. However, if you liked A.P. at SD99/98/97, then you really have to see them in a smaller venue, their show becomes even more intense! We (BORN to GO) play with them or see them play at gigs all the time in NYC. They were blistering at the Orion SpaceRock festival last year down in Baltimore, they had the Lascko light show and they just played a long mindbending set with incredible visuals. A.P. are simply a world class act that the world has yet to discover. They will. A.P. are too good to ignore. Well done Doug, definately M.V.P. of SD99. > As Tribe of Cro and Mr Creed burned there bridges there was a > band ready, willing and able to save Friday night. Born to Go > stepped up to fill the void and just as important they rose > to the occasion! They open with Born to Go (as they should) > it was heavy, it was hard, it was spacerock! I think they > closed with Orgone Accumulator which was a classic improve. > For those unfamiliar with the inventor of said machine, they > received a crash course about the man. Way to go Marc that > was hilarious! Anyway, BtG went to the next level. There > original material was bitch'in. Thanks Doug, mate. I must have been blitzed though, I don't even remember playing 'Born to Go'! Space is the Place! Marc. ------------------------------------------------------------------- BORN to GO: From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Aug 26 16:15:21 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:15:21 +0100 Subject: off: Re: "lil' black egg" on BILLBOARD..."timothy" too In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 19:09 25/08/99 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 8/25/99 6:49:45 PM, ceres at sirius.com writes: > ><< >Unfortunately, the only song named "Timothy" I know is the one on the first >UFO album. So you got me on that piece of trivia. But I do love those >obscure 60s psych and 70s punk bands! >>> >===== >"timothy" was about 3 guys trapped in a cave in; timothy is, ahem, eaten by >the other two. rupert holmes would later try to say timothy was a mule, but >too late, dude... > Weeeell, my UFO1 went away a loooong time ago, but I seem to recall that the song had a fairly grisly theme, so it could be the same one.... >speaking of 'obscure' i'm looking for the lp by the german group the >rattles*, ca 1970, incl the songs "devil's on the loose" and "(i'm a) >virgin"...their us 'hit' was 'the witch" on decca. i'm not into spending big >bux on vinyl, i just wanna tape... > >*actually they may have been a us "frat rock" band in the mid-'60s who moved >to germany and added a female singer I think that we've still got the single around the house somewhere, and I always thought they were echt deutsch...from Hamburg(?) and had been around since the days when the Beatles used to play over there, but my memory could be failing me! ChrisW "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Aug 26 16:06:30 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:06:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: Holy !>@#@!$$! In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990825202625.0068f204@mail1.wizvax.net> Message-ID: At 20:26 25/08/99 -0400, you wrote: >Hot off of the DGM Diary webpage: > >Ade & Robert are belewbricated out following an afternoon of >brain & ear dribbling. [--->]Larks' Tongues Part IV [<---] began our day with >some tasty offsets which defy the brain to lead or follow. Adrian >is working with the New Standard Tuning, and learning rapidly. >Some exquisite nuances emerge in the middle of what might >otherwise be fairly tonal music. Sounds most excellent...I haven't checked in there for a while...someyhing to do later I think....Have you got "Live On Broadway from the "Collectors Club" - it's awesome! Also, do you know/have you heard anything about the "Projeckt" albums? ChrisW (In a Crimson Mood) ObCD: Epitaph - KC Mk1 Live "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Thu Aug 26 15:15:28 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:15:28 -0400 Subject: shirts In-Reply-To: <199908260744.IAA14024@aeolians.bt.co.uk>; from bart on Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 08:44:13AM +0100 Message-ID: On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 08:44:13AM +0100, bart wrote: > shirts. blimey, here we go again :-) Heh heh heh. Hey, this topic took much longer than usual to come up again. It used to start up every few months. :) > > On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Stephen Swann wrote: > > => So, now we have 4 different BOC-L shirts: > > => > > => Mk. IA Nethawks original (art by Tim Fulcher) > > => Mk. IB Nethawks original + _ISoS_ back > > => Mk. I.5 Reversed IB > > => Mk. II Hawkwind only version (art by Mike Holmes?) > > > > The artwork of Mk. II was also by Tim Fulcher. > > Actually there is a version 0.1, of which there is exactly 1 shirt (painted on > directly). It's a simpler design than all others but I kinda like it. Actually I have a another one-of-a-kind BOC-L t-shirt (a custom airbrush job). It shows a 2-headed hawk with a fiery blue Chronos symbol gripped in its claws. The hawk is a little more "cartoonish" in appearance than I would really prefer, but quite cool nontheless. > Pouring petrol on the embers, I guess I could come up with another design. I love the original design, except that the ME262's jets disappeared somewhere between the drawing phase and the printing phase. :-) > For once, its my fault ;-) Steve From swann at PLUTONIA.COM Thu Aug 26 15:21:43 1999 From: swann at PLUTONIA.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:21:43 -0400 Subject: NetHawks t-shirts In-Reply-To: ; from Paul Mather on Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 02:16:44PM -0400 Message-ID: On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 02:16:44PM -0400, Paul Mather wrote: > > The shirts are great, Doug (although a friend still calls it my "Nazi > t-shirt" when she sees me wearing it:), and you did a super job > producing them. But, I must confess I still dislike the chosen > slogan... ;-) But the slogan is THE BEST slogan in the history of t-shirts. :) It's great fun at parties watching people surreptitiously trying to read it - especially when they succeed. Steve swann at plutonia.com From mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM Thu Aug 26 16:30:28 1999 From: mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM (Marc Power) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:30:28 -0400 Subject: SD99 Message-ID: I wrote: > Well done Doug, definately M.V.P. of SD99. I was referring to Doug Walker of A.P. here sorry for any confusion! Space! Marc. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Aug 26 17:09:28 1999 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:09:28 -0400 Subject: NetHawks t-shirts In-Reply-To: <19990826152143.C7942@plutonia.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Stephen Swann wrote: =>On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 02:16:44PM -0400, Paul Mather wrote: =>> =>> The shirts are great, Doug (although a friend still calls it my "Nazi =>> t-shirt" when she sees me wearing it:), and you did a super job =>> producing them. But, I must confess I still dislike the chosen =>> slogan... ;-) => =>But the slogan is THE BEST slogan in the history of t-shirts. :) Okay, to each his own, I guess... still think "Some Enchanted Network" is better... :-) Cheers, Paul. NP: Tad, _8-Way Santa_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I don't live today; maybe tomorrow..." --- James Marshall Hendrix From JOHNANDBEVBONO at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Aug 26 16:35:14 1999 From: JOHNANDBEVBONO at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (JOHN BONO) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:35:14 -0400 Subject: OFF: Tull in Albany Message-ID: I'm going to see Tull in Conn. I know that the opening act when they play the PNC Bank (isn't that disgusting ) Arts Center is supposed to be 10 Years After . I can only hope... John ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 8:00 AM Subject: OFF: Tull in Albany > I'm heading north to see Jethro Tull in Albany this Saturday. Anybody > else from Upstate NY going? Anybody know if there's an opening act? > > -- Nick > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Aug 26 16:19:21 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:19:21 -0400 Subject: SD99 Message-ID: Marc 'BtG' Power said... >> Before I rave about all the good things, I must say THE VENUE >> SUX AND IT MUST CHANGE for next years festival. > >What can I say? this is absolutely true, but it's not going to >change. >Jim got an exceptionally good deal on the site this year >and the only reason that he didn't make a ruinous loss and the >possibility is there for an SD2K is because of that deal. Oh is that what happened? Cause I know Jim was really unhappy with what they were charging him in 1998. I know their fees then were based on number of attendees, not a set fee. Of course, with fewer attendees this year, it wouldn't have been nearly so much if he were charged the same way. So I wonder how much this 'new deal' really saved him? I imagine the merchandising, esp. selling the SD'97 discs, must've helped a lot relative to last year. But of course, he probably would have sold those to a lot of people through mail order anyway. Still, it should have helped some. And then he didn't have to pay two bands to play!! Well, three really, since Tribe of Cro never came either. BTW, my copy of SD'97 seems to have a minor skip/defect (not visible) in the Quarkspace track on the first disc. Anybody else have this? I've only played it on my little box stereo...not sure if it will happen on my home stereo. >I don't like the venue, particularly the sanitation, but I >will stick it out for another year for the sake of being able >to attend and perform at America's only outdoor weekend annual >SpaceRock festival. I don't know what the big deal is...I really like the Ledges. Of course, I wasn't rooted out of my campsite like I guess some others were. And I didn't get stopped by the police (as I never left the grounds). But I know that Frontier Ranch here in the Columbus vicinity was seriously considered for this year, and it was decided against it mainly due to increased police presence in the area, so perhaps then it was the right choice! It could have been worse. Yeah, ok, the sanitation leaves a little to be desired. But having sanitation services at all seems like the high life to me (who has 'camped' with absolutely none for over 60 days at a time). Some would like to see it moved into the city and made into an indoor event. Phfft. I'd still go, but I wouldn't like it one bit. I'd be happy to see two events a year (one indoor and one outdoor) though. Well, we've already got that in a sense with Orion's thingy. Though that's *very* limited seating. In the end, I think we should have it at wherever Jim *wants* to have it (and can afford it). I'm not going to complain until I start putting on my own shows, and start hearing others' friendly suggestions! :) If I was able to spout off about one pet peeve about the Ledges (which I'll commence to doing now), it's the damn driveway in front of the stage. Plant some damn grass there, you fools! :) That's a suggestion for the NLQP people, not Jim. >> They open with Born to Go (as they should) >> it was heavy, it was hard, it was spacerock! I think they >> closed with Orgone Accumulator which was a classic improve. >> For those unfamiliar with the inventor of said machine, they >> received a crash course about the man. Way to go Marc that >> was hilarious! Anyway, BtG went to the next level. There >> original material was bitch'in. > >Thanks Doug, mate. I must have been blitzed though, I don't even >remember playing 'Born to Go'! Whew!! I didn't hear it either! I was afraid that perhaps I had another memory lapse on Friday night! :) Keith H. (FAA) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Aug 26 16:21:30 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:21:30 -0400 Subject: OFF: Tull in Albany Message-ID: John said... >I'm going to see Tull in Conn. I know that the opening act when they play >the PNC Bank (isn't that disgusting ) Arts Center is supposed to be 10 >Years After. Why would the opening act play 10 years after Tull? And who the hell is going to hang around that long to see them? Keith H. (FAA) From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Thu Aug 26 18:07:36 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 18:07:36 -0400 Subject: OFF: Tull in Albany In-Reply-To: <00b901bef007$fd7cbb80$f6324f0c@john> Message-ID: At 04:35 PM 8/26/99 -0400, you wrote: >I'm going to see Tull in Conn. I know that the opening act when they play >the PNC Bank (isn't that disgusting ) Arts Center is supposed to be 10 >Years After . I can only hope... John That is COOL. Alvin Lee had a big early influence on my pubescent ears. namely, play things LOUD and FAST :) Get the LP "Undead" good live 'un. Jason PS: the bassist of TYA recently did session work on a very TYA-ish number at the end of Savoy Brown's new CD. Good boogie. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From DASLUD at AOL.COM Thu Aug 26 17:44:35 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:44:35 EDT Subject: off: Re: "lil' black egg" on BILLBOARD..."timothy" too Message-ID: In a message dated 8/26/99 4:19:43 PM, desdinova at EARTHLING.NET writes: <<"timothy" was about 3 guys trapped in a cave in; timothy is, ahem, eaten by >the other two. rupert holmes would later try to say timothy was a mule, but >too late, dude... > Weeeell, my UFO1 went away a loooong time ago, but I seem to recall that the song had a fairly grisly theme, so it could be the same one.... >> ======= wow, that would be neat were it the same song after all...i've got a pal who efinitely owns that lp.... history in action "<>" From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Thu Aug 26 18:04:48 1999 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:04:48 -0500 Subject: SD99 Message-ID: > Thanks Doug, mate. I must have been blitzed though, I don't even > remember playing 'Born to Go'! > I'm pretty certain you didn't From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Aug 26 18:13:36 1999 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:13:36 +0100 Subject: off: Re: "lil' black egg" on BILLBOARD..."timothy" too In-Reply-To: <522c7baa.24f70f43@aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Aug 1999 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 8/26/99 4:19:43 PM, desdinova at EARTHLING.NET writes: > > <<"timothy" was about 3 guys trapped in a cave in; timothy is, ahem, eaten by > >the other two. rupert holmes would later try to say timothy was a mule, but > >too late, dude... > > > Weeeell, my UFO1 went away a loooong time ago, but I seem to recall that > the song had a fairly grisly theme, so it could be the same one.... > >> > ======= > wow, that would be neat were it the same song after all...i've got a pal who > efinitely owns that lp.... > > history in action > "<>" For what it's worth, the Freak Emporium mention UFO's Timothy as one of the originals off that album, but they're not always right. Yours, Jon From JOHNANDBEVBONO at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Thu Aug 26 19:21:32 1999 From: JOHNANDBEVBONO at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (JOHN BONO) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 19:21:32 -0400 Subject: OFF: Tull in Albany Message-ID: Ha Ha...If they're that good , I might come back 9 years,11 months ,and 30 days later... ----- Original Message ----- From: Keith Henderson To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 4:21 PM Subject: Re: OFF: Tull in Albany > John said... > > >I'm going to see Tull in Conn. I know that the opening act when they play > >the PNC Bank (isn't that disgusting ) Arts Center is supposed to be 10 > >Years After. > > Why would the opening act play 10 years after Tull? And who the hell is > going to hang around that long to see them? > > Keith H. (FAA) From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Thu Aug 26 19:55:30 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:55:30 +0900 Subject: HW: T-Shirts Message-ID: OK, for the benefit of us (or is it only me) that don't have a MK Anything Nethawk shirt, what was the controversial slogan that causes so much fun at parties? Dave From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Thu Aug 26 22:03:41 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:03:41 -0500 Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out Message-ID: Andy Gilham wrote: > > Hawkwinds One of johnny rottens fav bands eh? > > I've heard this one a few times - sometimes it's claimed he was a Hawkwind > roadie, but I don't think that's true. Mind you, knowing Rotten, he might > just say he likes HW to piss people off. > > > > > I didn't read that in his autobiography. Why is it that no one famous > > ever acknoledges hawkwind as a fav band or an infulence on there own > > material(even though its obvious that they are) in interviews. Take for > > example Primal Scream they covered Motorhead on ther last album it > > resembled the hawkwind one not motorheads version but i can't remmeber > > any interview with the band acknowledging hawkind.I always thought > > there was some kind of stigma surrounding liking hawkwind. > > > > colm > > That's for sure! > > The line in the Time Out review about HW being the "bridge between > psychedelia and punk" was spot on, and got me thinking. It's sort of > against received wisdom that such a thing could even be; in the > user-friendly blister-packaged Rock Circus-style history of popular music, > punk didn't even exist before Johnny said "shit" to Bill Grundy. But it > ain't so - for instance, in the press clippings on hawkwind.com, you'll find > in an item from February 1975: "Their music sounds like good, solid punk > rock to me." That's really amazing. Does anyone recall any earlier appearances of the term "punk rock"? On the Johnny rotten thing: A friend of mine who's a big Sex Pistols fan once showed me a picture of Johhny Rotten in some biographical book of hers, where he had long hair, and the caption below said something like "back in the Hawkwind days". I'll find out more about this (the title of the book and if there's anything else on the subject that she knows about) From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Thu Aug 26 22:48:49 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:48:49 -0500 Subject: off: "little black egg" Message-ID: Andrew Apold wrote: > >So, can anybody explain what all the fuss is about? Judging by > >what I heard Saturday night, it seems a pretty silly song -- the > >kind that should have been a very minor hit and then vanished > >forever. > > You've gotta see the video.... > > It's available on the ICU cd-rom from Steve Pond, $20, a bargain, > you also get the Blood & Bone version, the Imperial Pompadour's Ersatz > version, and over 100 other songs... ahhh...proof! Until now I thought I had imagined this item! how exactly can it be bought? From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Aug 27 00:35:57 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 00:35:57 -0400 Subject: off: "little black egg" In-Reply-To: <37C5FC91.84DF4216@softhome.net> Message-ID: >> It's available on the ICU cd-rom from Steve Pond, $20, a bargain, >> you also get the Blood & Bone version, the Imperial Pompadour's Ersatz >> version, and over 100 other songs... > >ahhh...proof! Until now I thought I had imagined this item! >how exactly can it be bought? Well, Steve Pond is (or used to be) on this list.... but hop over to http://www.doremi.co.uk/icu/ for info... ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Aug 27 02:36:04 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 02:36:04 EDT Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out Message-ID: In a message dated 8/26/99 9:06:42 PM, antisol at SOFTHOME.NET writes: << That's really amazing. Does anyone recall any earlier appearances of the term "punk rock"? >> ============== boy, couldnt we just go round and round with this'n...but there were multiple references circa 1971 to, ha ha, the j. geils band being "punk rock", and i have no doubt there are earlier references than that, dating back to the second half of the '60s.. cant think of 'em at 2:30am... that's just a wacky one that comes to mind... then there's always zappa's "flower punk" from '68, perhaps alluding to the whole garage band-meets-flower-power intermingling...attitues collide... "<>" From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Aug 27 04:46:01 1999 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Rich Lockwood) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:46:01 +0100 Subject: HW: I've been meaning to ask this... Message-ID: I've been on the list for about three / four years now, and have always meant to ask this, but never got round to it... Here goes. Silver Bloody Machine 7" single. On United Artists. Catalogue number UP35381. Produced by Hawkwind and Doctor Technical. We all know that. I've got three vinyl copies of the damn thing, and one of them hasn't got the obvious crowd noises at the start, and the (for want of a better phrase) WAWAWAWAWAwawawawawa...wawawawawWAWAWAWAWAWAWA bit at the start goes on for ages. But the catalogue number and all other information on the label are exactly the same. Can anyone enlighten me? Have I got a 12" version on 7" or something? Or were there a couple of different pressings? In all other aspects they're exactly the same - I know, I sat up until about 4 this morning with only a bottle of gin for company trying to spot differences. And there aren't any. Sorry if everyone out there knows all the differences and I'm just being a cretin, but it's been bothering me. :-( Cheers, Rich. From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Aug 27 05:12:06 1999 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Rich Lockwood) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:12:06 +0100 Subject: NetHawks t-shirts Message-ID: >Flashback: >In '93 I scanned in some of my CD covers which were placed on >a FTP server, we thought that was so cool. You see there were >very few web pages at the time, I don't think I had a browser >back then. And now scanners are half the price and ten times >better. I tell ya sunny, we had to pay $20 or more for imports >CDs from Ranjit, it was bad. It was none of this four-day and >its in your mail box E-commerce stuff. > We used to have to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before we went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down t'mill AND pay t'mill owner for permission to come to work and when we got home our dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing 'Hallelujah'. And you try and tell t'young people of today that, and they won't believe you. :-) Oh - I'll have an XL too please! Cheers, Rich. From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Fri Aug 27 05:56:46 1999 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:56:46 +0200 Subject: off: "little black egg" In-Reply-To: <37C5FC91.84DF4216@softhome.net> Message-ID: >> It's available on the ICU cd-rom from Steve Pond, $20, a bargain, >> you also get the Blood & Bone version, the Imperial Pompadour's Ersatz >> version, and over 100 other songs... > >ahhh...proof! Until now I thought I had imagined this item! >how exactly can it be bought? i have this cd rom too. just send steve an email and he answers promptly with the details. here is his homepage where you can find his email address. http://www.doremi.co.uk/icu/ greetings andre From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Aug 27 05:58:54 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 10:58:54 +0100 Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out In-Reply-To: <19990825090737.21181.rocketmail@web209.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: In article <19990825090737.21181.rocketmail at web209.mail.yahoo.com>, colm mcwilliams writes >Hawkwinds One of johnny rottens fav bands eh? I heard it too, probably in an interview but.... > >I didn't read that in his autobiography. I thought I had read it in his book, though... >Why is it that no one famous >ever acknoledges hawkwind as a fav band Pete Shelley of the Buzzcocks 'fesses up in Mojo, this month. -- Jon From farmer at ALLENCC.NET Fri Aug 27 02:40:18 1999 From: farmer at ALLENCC.NET (Don Farmer) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 06:40:18 +0000 Subject: BIllboard Message-ID: According to Billboard.com the new compilation Best of BOC is scheduled to be released on Aug. 31, 1999. Just saw that on their website and thought I would pass it on. Don Farmer Head Track/Cross Country Coach 1801 N. Cottonwood Director Fitness Center Iola, KS 66749 FAX: 316-365-7406 Home: (316) 365-5943 Work: (316) 365-5116 ext. 215 Email: farmer at acccn1.allen.cc.ks.us From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 27 07:41:08 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:41:08 +0100 Subject: HW: I've been meaning to ask this... In-Reply-To: Rich Lockwood's message of Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:46:01 +0100 Message-ID: Rich Lockwood writes: > I've been on the list for about three / four years now, and have always > meant to ask this, but never got round to it... > > Here goes. > > Silver Bloody Machine 7" single. On United Artists. Catalogue number > UP35381. Produced by Hawkwind and Doctor Technical. We all know that. > I've got three vinyl copies of the damn thing, and one of them hasn't got > the obvious crowd noises at the start, and the (for want of a better phrase) > WAWAWAWAWAwawawawawa...wawawawawWAWAWAWAWAWAWA bit at the start goes on for > ages. But the catalogue number and all other information on the label are > exactly the same. Can anyone enlighten me? Have I got a 12" version on 7" > or something? Or were there a couple of different pressings? In all other > aspects they're exactly the same - I know, I sat up until about 4 this > morning with only a bottle of gin for company trying to spot differences. > And there aren't any. > > Sorry if everyone out there knows all the differences and I'm just being a > cretin, but it's been bothering me. > :-( Relevant sections of the Codex follow. You can tell which version you've got by checking the runoff groove on each side. There'll be a number from A1 to A4 and B1 to B4. The combinations known are: 7 inch A1/B1 and A1/B2 - 1972 original release and rerelease due to demand. Seven by Seven remixed on the 2nd release. A2/B2 - 1976 different remix of Seven By Seven and Silver Machine from the segue with Seeing It As You Really Are made for Roadhawks. A3/B3 - 1978 original version of Silver Machine with 1976 version of Seven by Seven A4/B4 - 1983 original version of Silver Machine and cut version of Seven By Seven from Space Ritual LP After 1983 the versions released were the 1976 Silver Machine from Roadhawks and the cut Space Ritual version of Seven by Seven. This may be different in other countries. Abroad there were also double A side Silver Machine/Urban Guerilla released with the 1972 version of Silver Machine. Also on 7" was the version of Silver Machine on the Magnu motorbike pic disk and the pic disk of Warrior for the 10th anniversary reissue from Choose Your Masques in both ull and edited format. 12 inch 1978 the silver coloured sleeve had the original silver machine with the 1976 mix of Seven By Seven. There was also a 12 inch version of the Silver Machine/Magnu seven inch. Could you have a look at the runoff grooves on yours and let me know. I'm curious. FoFP Silver Machine L 2 Glastonbury Fayre L 2 Assassins of Allah LP L 2 Dawn of Hawkwind CD 3 Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1972] 3 X In Search Of Space [Spanish album and remastered CD only] 3 Doremifasolatido [Japanese album only] 3 US double 7" EP 3 Silver Machine/7 by 7/Lord of Light/Born to Go German double 7" EP 3 Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1978] 3 Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 12" [1978] 3 Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1983] 3 Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 12" [1983] 3 Silver Machine/ Urban Guerilla 7" [Dutch 1989] 3 Stasis 3 (The Best of) Psychedelic Warlords 3 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] 3 Sonic Boom Killers 3 a Roadhawks 3 a Silver Machine/ Urban Guerilla 7" [German 1975] 3 a Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1976] 3 a Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [after 1983] L 8 Silver Machine/Magnu 7" L 8 Silver Machine/Magnu 7" motorbike shaped pic disk L 8 Silver Machine Live 12" EP L 8 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] L 8 Ironstrike L 8 British Tribal Music L 8 Castle Masters Collection L 8 Night Riding L 8 The Best and the Rest of Hawkwind L 8 The Early Years Live EP L 8 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. I CD L 8 Acid Daze Vol. III CD L 8 The Hawkwind Collection L 8 Best of Hawkwind CD L 8 Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] L 8 Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) L 8 Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] {Silver Machine live} L 8 Silver Machine CD [Hallmark compilation] 9 Choose Your Masques 9 Silver Machine 10th Anniversary 7" EP [long version] 9 a Silver Machine 10th Anniversary 7" EP [short version] 9 a Choose Your Masques [CD only] * Version 2 was recorded at the Roundhouse in 1972 and not at Glastonbury. * Version 3 was mixed from version 2 at Rockfield. * Version 3a was remixed from 3 for the Roadhawks album by overlapping the end of the Shouldn't Do That track from the Space Ritual encore with the start of the version 3 single. * Version 5a is a remix from version 5 * Version 7 stops with an explosion soon after the track begins * The 10th anniversary 7" EP contained both the version from the Choose Your Masques album, and a shorter edited version. The CD of Choose Your Masques had the full three tracks from the 10th Anniversary EP and thus contained the full version twice. The EP was also released as a pic disk with the covers from Warrior On The Edge of Time and Doremifasolatido. * Two versions of Silver Machine on Assassins of Allah LP and three versions on Dawn of Hawkwind CD Seven by Seven 1 Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1972] A1/B1 1 In Search of Space [remastered CD only] 1 Sonic Boom Killers 1 a Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1972] A1/B2 1 b Silver Machine/7 by 7/Lord of Light/Born to Go German double 7" EP 1 b Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1976] 1 b Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1978] A3/B3 1 b Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 12" [1978] 1 b Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 12" [1983] 1 b Stasis 1 b Lord of Light L 2 BBC Transcription Disc LP L 2 Space Rock from London L 2 a BBC Radio - Live In Concert CD L 3 Space Ritual Alive L 3 a Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1983] L 3 a Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [after 1983] L 4 Space Ritual II L 4 Hawkwind Live [Imtrat] L 4 Hawkwind: The Masters L 4 Ridicule L 4 a Live '70/'73 L 4 a Welcome To The Future [Mausoleum LP] L 5 The 1999 Party * 1a is a remix of 1 - both released in 1972 * 1b is a remix of 1 * 2a is a remix of 2 * 3a is a cut version of 3 * 4a is a cut version of 4 From DASLUD at AOL.COM Fri Aug 27 08:04:35 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:04:35 EDT Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out Message-ID: In a message dated 8/27/99 6:00:30 AM, jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK writes: << >Why is it that no one famous >ever acknoledges hawkwind as a fav band? Pete Shelley of the Buzzcocks 'fesses up in Mojo, this month. >> ======== axually mr shelley copped to this long ago...nice to hear him repeat it though. if you want another, how about jello biafra? a mention of HW in a review of my band, disarray, in maximum rock and roll circa '84, led him to write me, and we corresponded on and off for over a decade...he related his dismay over having seen the lineup w/ginger baker in england...and it was he who filled me in on high tide, and would later send me his copy of their 1st lp..."sabbath fronted by jim morrison" was how he'd described them.... anyhoo, cheers then "<>" From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Aug 27 08:39:46 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:39:46 -0400 Subject: NetHawks t-shirts Message-ID: >We used to have to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an >hour before we went to bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine >hours a day down t'mill AND pay t'mill owner for permission to come to work >and when we got home our dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on >our graves singing 'Hallelujah'. And you try and tell t'young people of >today that, and they won't believe you. Luxury. "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Fri Aug 27 09:35:46 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 09:35:46 -0400 Subject: NetHawks t-shirts In-Reply-To: <199908261926.PAA12115@issfire.co.palm-beach.fl.us> Message-ID: At 03:26 PM 8/26/99 -0400, you wrote: >>On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Doug Bates wrote: >> >>=> There were two images, that could be used in any combination. >>=> Of the possible eight combinations only five were requested. >>=> >From memory: >>=> >>=> front back orders >>=> nethawks 77 (even the band got one of these) >>=> nethawks nethawks 2 (ok, ok) >>=> nethawks ISOS 10 (were you cool in '95?) >>=> ISOS nethawks 1 (just me on this one) >> >>Then what is that imposter I have in my drawer??? :-) (I have one >>printed this way, too, at least I seem to recall. I'll verify >>tonight...) > >You probably bought it from Eric Bloom and Don Roeser. They're >ripping off the list, man! hehehe. Maybe Steve Shenck was using mind control on them, make them preform acts of unspeakable resource wasting AND fan annoyance. Think about it, Rob Trower made up his own record comp. (v 12) to sell his wares, and he's released at least 2 new CDs in as many years. BOC will probsbly never be managed in a way that makes sense to anyone. So they're condemned to life on the classic rock bopogie club/bar circuit justly I think. It makes me sad. To quote the SpaceBard: "What is lost is never gained again." Too true. Heck, even when they do jumpstart their output (HF, the MoFI, and so on) it gets less rock press than the return of a second rate guitar player to Red Hot Chili Peppers (is it me or does that single sound just like that bridge song they were popular for a while back?). At least the Fan Club has a sharp cohesion and the MC5 has been getting a lot of accolades. Just listen to your Vavona Burr and go in peace :) To quote the SpaceBard: "What is lost is never gained again" Nothing scares pedestrians like Sonic Attack blasting out a car stereo, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Aug 27 09:43:28 1999 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Rich Lockwood) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:43:28 +0100 Subject: Fw: Re: HW: I've been meaning to ask this... Message-ID: Will do when I get home (sometime over the weekend). All I know at the mo. is that they're all marked 1972 on the label, and the longer intro version came in a black/white Doremi style sleeve. Sadly I spilled gin on one of them last night, but I think I managed to wipe most of it off with my t-shirt. ;-) I'll let you know. Cheers, Rich. ObCD: You Hold The Pigeons Down While We Shit On Their Heads - Beer Powered Noise Frenzy Live At The Pigeons 11/9/98 >-----Original Message----- >From: M Holmes >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Date: 27 August 1999 12:43 >Subject: Re: HW: I've been meaning to ask this... > > >>Rich Lockwood writes: >> >>> I've been on the list for about three / four years now, and have always >>> meant to ask this, but never got round to it... >>> >>> Here goes. >>> >>> Silver Bloody Machine 7" single. On United Artists. Catalogue number >>> UP35381. Produced by Hawkwind and Doctor Technical. We all know that. >>> I've got three vinyl copies of the damn thing, and one of them hasn't got >>> the obvious crowd noises at the start, and the (for want of a better >phrase) >>> WAWAWAWAWAwawawawawa...wawawawawWAWAWAWAWAWAWA bit at the start goes on >for >>> ages. But the catalogue number and all other information on the label >are >>> exactly the same. Can anyone enlighten me? Have I got a 12" version on >7" >>> or something? Or were there a couple of different pressings? In all >other >>> aspects they're exactly the same - I know, I sat up until about 4 this >>> morning with only a bottle of gin for company trying to spot differences. >>> And there aren't any. >>> >>> Sorry if everyone out there knows all the differences and I'm just being >a >>> cretin, but it's been bothering me. >>> :-( >> >>Relevant sections of the Codex follow. You can tell which version you've >>got by checking the runoff groove on each side. There'll be a number >>from A1 to A4 and B1 to B4. The combinations known are: >> >>7 inch >> >>A1/B1 and A1/B2 - 1972 original release and rerelease due to demand. >> Seven by Seven remixed on the 2nd release. >>A2/B2 - 1976 different remix of Seven By Seven and Silver >> Machine from the segue with Seeing It As You Really >> Are made for Roadhawks. >>A3/B3 - 1978 original version of Silver Machine with 1976 >> version of Seven by Seven >>A4/B4 - 1983 original version of Silver Machine and cut >> version of Seven By Seven from Space Ritual LP >> >>After 1983 the versions released were the 1976 Silver Machine from >>Roadhawks and the cut Space Ritual version of Seven by Seven. This may >>be different in other countries. Abroad there were also double A side >>Silver Machine/Urban Guerilla released with the 1972 version of Silver >>Machine. >> >>Also on 7" was the version of Silver Machine on the Magnu motorbike pic >>disk and the pic disk of Warrior for the 10th anniversary reissue from >>Choose Your Masques in both ull and edited format. >> >>12 inch >> >>1978 the silver coloured sleeve had the original silver machine with the >>1976 mix of Seven By Seven. There was also a 12 inch version of the >>Silver Machine/Magnu seven inch. >> >>Could you have a look at the runoff grooves on yours and let me know. >>I'm curious. >> >>FoFP >> >> >>Silver Machine >> L 2 Glastonbury Fayre >> L 2 Assassins of Allah LP >> L 2 Dawn of Hawkwind CD >> 3 Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1972] >> 3 X In Search Of Space [Spanish album and remastered CD only] >> 3 Doremifasolatido [Japanese album only] >> 3 US double 7" EP >> 3 Silver Machine/7 by 7/Lord of Light/Born to Go German double 7" >EP >> 3 Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1978] >> 3 Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 12" [1978] >> 3 Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1983] >> 3 Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 12" [1983] >> 3 Silver Machine/ Urban Guerilla 7" [Dutch 1989] >> 3 Stasis >> 3 (The Best of) Psychedelic Warlords >> 3 25 Years On [Griffin 4-CD Set] >> 3 Sonic Boom Killers >> 3 a Roadhawks >> 3 a Silver Machine/ Urban Guerilla 7" [German 1975] >> 3 a Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1976] >> 3 a Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [after 1983] >> L 8 Silver Machine/Magnu 7" >> L 8 Silver Machine/Magnu 7" motorbike shaped pic disk >> L 8 Silver Machine Live 12" EP >> L 8 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] >> L 8 Ironstrike >> L 8 British Tribal Music >> L 8 Castle Masters Collection >> L 8 Night Riding >> L 8 The Best and the Rest of Hawkwind >> L 8 The Early Years Live EP >> L 8 The Hawkwind Anthology Vol. I CD >> L 8 Acid Daze Vol. III CD >> L 8 The Hawkwind Collection >> L 8 Best of Hawkwind CD >> L 8 Silver Machine CD [Spectrum compilation] >> L 8 Live & Rare (Onward Flies The Bird) >> L 8 Master of the Universe [Pulse CD] {Silver Machine live} >> L 8 Silver Machine CD [Hallmark compilation] >> 9 Choose Your Masques >> 9 Silver Machine 10th Anniversary 7" EP [long version] >> 9 a Silver Machine 10th Anniversary 7" EP [short version] >> 9 a Choose Your Masques [CD only] >> >> * Version 2 was recorded at the Roundhouse in 1972 and not at >> Glastonbury. >> * Version 3 was mixed from version 2 at Rockfield. >> * Version 3a was remixed from 3 for the Roadhawks album by >> overlapping the end of the Shouldn't Do That track from the >> Space Ritual encore with the start of the version 3 single. >> * Version 5a is a remix from version 5 >> * Version 7 stops with an explosion soon after the track begins >> * The 10th anniversary 7" EP contained both the version from the >> Choose Your Masques album, and a shorter edited version. The >> CD of Choose Your Masques had the full three tracks from the >> 10th Anniversary EP and thus contained the full version twice. >> The EP was also released as a pic disk with the covers from >> Warrior On The Edge of Time and Doremifasolatido. >> * Two versions of Silver Machine on Assassins of Allah LP and three >> versions on Dawn of Hawkwind CD >> >>Seven by Seven >> 1 Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1972] A1/B1 >> 1 In Search of Space [remastered CD only] >> 1 Sonic Boom Killers >> 1 a Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1972] A1/B2 >> 1 b Silver Machine/7 by 7/Lord of Light/Born to Go German double 7" >EP >> 1 b Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1976] >> 1 b Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1978] A3/B3 >> 1 b Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 12" [1978] >> 1 b Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 12" [1983] >> 1 b Stasis >> 1 b Lord of Light >> L 2 BBC Transcription Disc LP >> L 2 Space Rock from London >> L 2 a BBC Radio - Live In Concert CD >> L 3 Space Ritual Alive >> L 3 a Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [1983] >> L 3 a Silver Machine/ Seven by Seven 7" [after 1983] >> L 4 Space Ritual II >> L 4 Hawkwind Live [Imtrat] >> L 4 Hawkwind: The Masters >> L 4 Ridicule >> L 4 a Live '70/'73 >> L 4 a Welcome To The Future [Mausoleum LP] >> L 5 The 1999 Party >> >> * 1a is a remix of 1 - both released in 1972 >> * 1b is a remix of 1 >> * 2a is a remix of 2 >> * 3a is a cut version of 3 >> * 4a is a cut version of 4 > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Aug 27 08:41:04 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 08:41:04 -0400 Subject: OFF/HW: Strange Daze '99 (again) Message-ID: Hi Folks...finally finished my 'official' review. STRANGE DAZE '99 OK, well, my departure for the Ledges was delayed as usual, due to various commitments here at the office. But at 2:15, I began the three-hour journey from Columbus, and with a pretty good traffic situation, got there in time to catch the last bit of Oranj Climax' set. Of course, I was frantically grabbing stuff out of my car for both camp and setting up my little stand next to Jerry's official table for Aural Innovations (and as it turned out, merchandising for most of the festival bands' themselves!). I brought around 125 CDs that I'd picked up in various second-hand and closeout bins in stores around the country, and a few online. I wasn't looking to make much of a profit (probably a stupid idea), since I've only ever been a 'dealer' on this very occasion, so I kept them cheap and as a result was popular once again. I'm glad to provide this service for folks who likely don't spend as much time as I searching for space rock bargains. My hope is that these bargains I'm passing on to Strange Daze attendees becomes something that makes them decide to come back next year....that's the idea, anyway. So this is the only festival where I actually come home with *more* money that when I left! But still, I now am the proud owner of about a dozen new titles I hadn't ever found before. So my only recollection of Oranj Climax is that it was spacey ambient music that seemed an appropriate 'intro' to the festival as a whole. I can't tell you a lot more about them, but I know Jerry has a copy of their disc e-Noise and so eventually I'll have the pleasure of hearing them in a more conducive setting (i.e., not so preoccupied). Soon, after numerous 'Hello, I always see you here's' and 'Glad to finally meet you's', Canis Minor came onstage for the first of their two performances. With the cancellation of Tribe of Cro, this spot remained open even after much effort was made to bring in additional regional artists...always one member with a conflict. Oh well, Canis Minor knew from last year (where they played onstage despite not being on the program, due to a travel situation with ArcMet) that being prepared to go on at any point can be fruitful. Again, it was competition with more friends and shoppers that took my attention away from their performance, but here the duo (with a guest or two) did some interesting proggy stuff with the Chapman stick giving them that unique sound for a 'space' band. There was one cool tune that I remember that I swore had some guitar soloing in it, and I looked and looked and saw no guitarist, so I thought it must've been a DAT recording piped in along with what they were playing live. Whatever, it was really an excellent piece. It was sometime around then that I talked for Jim for the first time, and the first thing out of his mouth was 'You know, Helios isn't here.' Jesus...I spent all that time worrying over whether my program was going to be accurate - I guess there really wasn't any way to prepare for these sorts of occurrences. Perhaps next year, the program will say 'To Be Announced' for each and every time slot! Well, anyway, I don't understand why they weren't there for their set, but if they don't want to show, we'd just as soon see someone else who did! And that turned out to be Born to Go, and boy did they ever show!! Going on just as it was getting dark, they got the added advantage of playing with Solar Fire's excellent lights. Wow...every performance from this lot is more impressive than the last. Above the stage was the obligatory projection 'screen' and there were lots of newly-acquired NASA-type stills to go along with the usual projection wheels and such. Well, anyway, back to the music...Born to Go plays bass-heavy space blanga tunes that are reminiscent of Doremi-era Hawkwind. And why not? Vocalist/bassist Marc Power always gives us a little intro for most tunes, telling us what alien creature or particular mysterious event he'll be singing about just then. The robots were lounging back at the hotel I hear, or they would have made an appearance for the show...oh well, their signature 'Robots on the Rise' was still scary enough as it was. So after ninety minutes of killer original space tunes, we all could see by our watches that there was still thirty minutes before the main stage curfew was invoked. Hmmmm....what to play then to fill up that time? OK, how 'bout a 25-minute version of Orgone Accumulator! So in a sense, it was perhaps a little ridiculous to play a few simple chords and sing a few simple lyrics over and over again, but for me it was the most enjoyable moment of the entire weekend! Those of you there, perhaps you even noticed! :) A new feature of Strange Daze offered this year was the 'late-night' tent, which also acted as merchandising center (and temporary rain shelter) during the day. To keep the neighbors from complaining, the after-midnight music had to be kept relatively quiet and so the performing acts were chosen accordingly. First up on Friday night was Drumplay, a local-based percussion combo that seems to grow in size and dimension each time I see them. Last year's Sunday morning performance was quite nice, but this one was trully impressive. Each piece is spontaneously created...you can think of it as kind of a 'professional drum circle.' But then the addition of Matthew Abelson on the hammered dulcimer and an additional guest on the vibraphone created additional lead 'voices' (to James Onysko's xylo-marimba) that really gave the unit a fully-orchestrated feel. And there was even a brief appearance by Thom the World Poet, who stopped by the offer one of his unique musical wordplays. Towards the end, the fire-eater who goes by the name 'Insanity in Motion' came by and provided even more colorful entertainment. Quite a few folks decided to hang around on this pleasant late evening, and they got to catch one of the weekend's many highlights. And as I strolled around the campsites nearest the tent, I found folks were grooving along to the music drifiting through the trees, and not their own boomboxes (thankfully!). Sometime around 2 AM, the Boston-area electronic duo Bionaut brought out their loads of gear and set up to do an additional late-night show. I think having the tent was a fabulous idea, but I discovered the attention span of the festival as a whole runs out at about 1:30. So only the hardy few hung around to see them perform their improvised space-borne electronics, though I've heard people say they could hear the music from across the lake. By then, the music was only competing with crickets and the crackling of campfires. It was a time for me to wind down and prepare for what I expected to be a restful night of sleep (which unfortunately didn't happen), so Bionaut's ambient sounds were just the thing. And as it turned out, they got a 'real' chance to play for the SD'99 crowd on Saturday afternoon, and then they played some pieces that were really interesting and quite a bit more lively. Saturday opened with Quarkspace firing up right on time at 11 AM, and fighting off the delerium of a restless night (thanks in part to Mr. Barky, the dog next door), I eventually was able to groove along with the cosmic sounds. I'm a bit spoiled in having Quarkspace in my back yard (I got to see them again just two days later), but the band seems quite difficult to mix correctly, and this was one of the rare occasions where I got to hear all the instruments together. Usually, either Chet Santia's bass, or Dave Wexler's gliss-style guitar, or Jay Swanson's keys...something's almost always buried in the mix, but not this time. The band played mostly material from the brand new 'Hidden Moon' double CD, including some of the very best, like the very Floydian 'The Circle' and the journey down the 'Outerspace Highway.' And I even really got into the techno-ish tracks (like 'Starbridge Freaks'), since Paul Williams' programmed loops weren't so invasive on this day. What I thought was the end of the Quarkspace performance turned out to just be a temporary break in the action, since Texas' Light Bright Highway failed to show. I guess they used the hurricane as an excuse, which I could easily accept if they were from Houston. But being from north of Dallas, I don't understand it! Anyway, Paul and Dave kept their stuff on stage and went back to do a set as their alter-ego National Steam. Not too different from Quarkspace, especially towards the end when they went into full improv mode and Chet and guest guitarist Stan Lyon showed back up to join in. I was a little busy with merchandising efforts (a brief rainshower or two brought the folks into our tented area) so I wasn't able to focus too heavily on the music, but I enjoyed what I heard as always from this lot...and I'm not saying that just because they're friends of mine! Bionaut's second impromptu performance came next, and as I said before, they did some things here that I got into a little more. The funny thing was, after nearly an hour of playing, I thought they'd finished and so I went back to my 'table' and was chatting with folks nearby. A bit later, I casually asked Jerry what they were playing over the PA (thinking it was just a tape or CD), and only then discovered it was still Bionaut on stage! My thought was that I wanted to find this disc and add it to my collection, and so weirdly enough, I simply stood up and grabbed Bionaut's newest CD (Big Causeway to Gone) from Jerry's table and handed over the money. Easy enough, eh? Alien Planetscapes were up next...always a treat! The band have been hit with some recent health difficulties, which you might think would've slowed them down a bit, but they were as vibrant and rockin' as ever. Doug Walker's synths were maybe a little less prevalent in the mix this time, but then every so often I used to feel he went a little overboard, so his spaced-out effects were just perfect on this afternoon. The newcomer Josh Gazes was impressive on guitar, and they cranked out a lot of new tunes I didn't recognize and is now making me very anxious to hear the upcoming 'Victims of the Blacklist' CD. They're a headlining quality band that probably gets way too little respect in their home territory. Us midwesterners really appreciate their journeys to Strange Daze. Of course, when 'planning' my activities at SD'99, I fully intended to take notes and try to keep track of setlists and such. But of course, when the time came, I just said "Fuck it," got loaded, and went a little nuts. I guess you could say I got into the spirit of things! Anyway, I think I made a bit of a miscalculation, as I have absolutely no recollection of Saturday night's Nik/Farflung show whatsoever (despite being 'awake' and vertical the entire time). Somebody said something about dancing alien girls on stage...I have no clue what he was talking about. I vaguely remember Scott Kuti coming out as the Spaceman again, but I probably remember that more from a similar appearance last year with Pressurehed. That'll teach me to mix rum and space rock!! (I *do* remember yelling out 'D-Rider' during Nik's solo jam, and being surprised that he said, 'We've already done that one'. I thought, What? Really? Damn, I missed it!! What else did they play? That was the beginning of my return to active consciousness!) Anyway, I do easily recall the earlier hour-long Anubian Lights performance, which was limited by daylight putting the kibosh on Rob Jacobs' excellent movies and images (they worked very nicely indoors at Sunday night's Symposium show). And then Nik never came out to play flute with Len and Tommy, though they did include the Soul Herder track in the main performance later. Eventually, the band morphed into Farflung, and things start to get kinda hazy at this point. I do remember being a little disappointed it wasn't nearly loud and heavy enough for my current mood. That, and "Where the hell is Nik?" I was hoping to hear Belief Module stuff, but couldn't begin to tell you if they did any of that. It seemed more spacey and hypnotic than I expected, without much of that crunchy buzz-guitar you expect from this lot. Eventually, Nik did come out (they tell me), and put on a stellar show. Having seen it Sunday night, I can agree! I'd only seen Nik on the '94 tour here in Columbus, a terrible gig mainly due to the abysmal sound. But the Sunday night show was stellar. D-Rider just ruled. And Free Fall...how cool was that?? (Note: Tommy did the vocals, not Nik...and he did them straight from Calvert's performance on Sonic Assassins EP. And he did them very well! Nik played flute bits here and there.) Of course, the obligatory Brainstorm and Master of the Universe were offered. Super-sub Steve Taylor (a local musician who's played with the likes of Nick Riff and Sun Machine) was guesting as lead guitarist and his playing was really quite impressive. (In fact, I think he was better in this role than as fill-in bassist for last year's StrangeWind ensemble.) At 11 (I assume), the Saturday show ended only to have Nik come out to do his patented solo sax jam, taking requests from the audience. Versions of Silver Machine, Little Black Egg, Space Invaders, and In the Mood were to be heard (I remember these!). Here was the setlist from Sunday (not exact order): Sonic Attack Brainstorm some heavy instrumental jam I didn't recognize Opa-Loka Soul Herder Free Fall Watching the Grass Grow D-Rider The Awakening Ejection Master of the Universe ----- You Shouldn't Do That After the show, I found myself in the company of a trio of poets (Roger Neville-Neil, Don Falcone, and Thom) and Thom was running through a rapid fire delivery of concepts and anecdotes way too abstruse for my brain to comprehend at the time. So I wandered back to the tent where I'd earlier seen a bunch of strange people engaging in antics that I couldn't figure out. I realized then that they were the Circus Kaotica as advertised, and that they were *supposed* to be there. I guess one of their tarantulas got loose in the process only to be found later by some unsuspecting folks, which no doubt was one of the more memorable happenings! Anyway, eventually, Canis Minor came on for their second performance of the weekend, and it was really quite excellent. Solar Fire's Scott Kuti had busted his ass all day to get the lightshow prepared, and it turned out awesome. The far end (where the band set up) had been closed up, so that when the fog machine was cranked up, the place turned into a soupy mist amongst which the rotating colored beams would dance and fight to penetrate through. Canis Minor played ambient trance music all along, and it really soaked into my being in my near-vegetative state. The lateness of the hour and the lack of sleep on Friday really dulled my senses, though the chill of nightfall helped keep me awake. But it wasn't until Bob Lennon (Hawk-US) nudged me that I even realized that Nik had come by to play a little flute with the duo. I think they played for about two hours (or more), but it seemed like one single timeless moment. Strange Daze should have something like this every year! I think it was about 2:45 AM when it seemed like things *must* be coming to a close, but Mike Burro's Sloterdijk was still left to get his tent-time. Like Friday, the tent crowd thinned to just a few, so Mike gets the award for 'Most Underappreciated Artist' of SD'99. Which is too bad, since his brand of ambient music was worthy of praise also. Burro (with guest percussionist Jay Adcock) used frequent voice samples to color the electronic throbbing, and then the occasional stream of guitar would slice through the thickening haze. By this time, Scott was going crazy with the fog (I don't think I ever really saw the band actually), and I can only imagine that it looked like a spaceship landing scene from the other side of the lake. Thom the World Poet again came by and delivered some more of his inspired 'musical-prose' through a crappy PA that made it seem like he was speaking through a megaphone or a stadium loudspeaker from a long way away. Actually, it was a rather cool effect, even if unintentional. I think it was around 3:30 when the power was finally cut, and this time I fell asleep almost immediately upon crawling into my tent, not to wake until well after sunrise. I needed it! Despite the uninterrupted rest, it was still difficult on Sunday morning to walk upright and erect. I managed to remember to eat, and then make a little conversation with folks who were far more alive than I. But promptly at 11 AM, the music started up once again, and soon I was recharged once more. W.O.O. Revelator came on first, an improvisational psychedelic/jazz trio (for lack of a better term) and they were all over the place. At times, they would diverge into a no-man's land of atonal and tempoless sound, but then just minutes later be fixed into a steady groove that would prove to be outstanding. There were two or three occasions when the WOO clan simply were brilliant without peer. The 'star' of the trio is colorful sax/flute-player Bonnie Kane, but Ray Sage is a truly phenomenal drummer. He's almost too good for 'space rock'! If they'd just refrain from the random high-pitched sonic squeals, I think I could hang with WOO for another ninety minutes. Das Ludicroix is a Massacusetts-based 'band,' but they also featured guests Doug Walker of Alien Planetscapes (synths) and Doug Pearson of Primordial Undermind (violin). And they're less a 'band' than a collection of acquaintances from over the years, so this unit was an assemblage of people who had hardly met, let alone played together. So it was evident a time or two from the funny glances or a brief rough spot that the group was unrehearsed, but still I enjoyed every minute of their performance. I think that the Das Ludicroix bunch came closest to re-creating the sound of Space Ritual-era cosmic blanga, Ron Scott playing the part of Lemmy and Carl Anderson's strings and foot petal playing the part of Dave Brock. Ron was a monster on the bass in fact, and it surprised me when Carl told me that he knows nothing of space rock, as he could easily become Bass Assassin No. 3. The mix was randomly evolving through the performance such that some instruments would be lost for a spell, but eventually Doug P.'s violin came through and it was a perfect fit. Soon thereafter, I thought we'd lost him again only to realize he'd switched on some effect that made it sound like an additional synth. All in all, a really strong performance by a band who (up till then) were probably more linked through cyberspace than in real life. A good number of folks hung around until the final bell, and they were all rewarded with a strong performance from Indianapolis' Tombstone Valentine. A five-person unit with no drummer, they came across with a number of organic, hippy tunes that floated out across the lake with ease. Musically-speaking, there really isn't that much there, but Richelle Toombs is a vocalist of rare talent, a powerful yet beautiful voice with perfect vibrato control and a soulful quality that carries the music to exceptional heights. I couldn't hear Randy Schwartz' violin much at all, and the music was generally heavy on the simple, repetitive basslines of Rick Wilkerson. Gave it a 'hippy krautrock' feel. Amazingly, their set ended within a minute of 4:00 PM, the scheduled closing time, and topped off a three-day schedule (wrought with cancellations) that 'seemed' to go off without a hitch (though far from it, I'm certain) and be exactly on-time all the way through. Amazing. Well, to sum up, I'd have to say that SD'99 was a more enjoyable event than SD'98. From what I hear, there were a lot less folks than last year (which is rather disturbing), but it never really seemed that way to me. I guess that the ones who came this time were just more into the music, since I believe that the daytime bands got perhaps even more notice and hopefully sold more product. The tent was a perfect addition, both as a 'community/merchandising' center and also as a late night venue, though (as I hinted at before) there should probably only be one act booked each night to be fair to the performers. Some people think the Ledges is a crap venue and future fests should be moved into an indoor facility in a major metropolitan area. Perhaps it would attract more folks, but I'd argue against it. Outdoor festivals have a charm that couldn't exist in a sterile, policed environment like a city theatre. (Here, the police only bothered people *outside* the grounds.) Let the prog folks do those festivals...space rock belongs outside in open space. Hopefully, Jim Lascko sold enough T-shirts and SD'97 CDs to cover the losses from running this year's event, such that SD2K will become a reality. Talk of the Ozrics performing has already gotten out, and is starting to produce some excitement already. Let's keep the momentum rolling and actually find some bands who have the dedication to actually show up at the venue! And let's encourage the lazier folks that didn't make the effort to come this year, to get up off their butts and head to SD2K wherever and whenever it takes place. We thank you for your support! :) Keith H. (FAA) From daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 27 10:03:33 1999 From: daveb at TARDIS.ED.AC.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:03:33 +0100 Subject: HW: and GSYBE Message-ID: Have you folks noticed the intense similarity between God Speed You Black Emperor's "Providence", the section from about 10 minutes in to 16 minutes, and one of my favourite Hawkwind tracks, "The Iron Dream"? I join the commendations of GSYBE, BTW. This album (f#a#oo***) is stunning stuff. Not at all what I expected. Not much like anything I've heard before, in fact. Dave. From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Fri Aug 27 11:27:08 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:27:08 -0400 Subject: OFF: its a bird its a place its ProjecKts! In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990826210630.0090bc10@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: >Sounds most excellent...I haven't checked in there for a while...someyhing >to do later I think....Have you got "Live On Broadway from the "Collectors >Club" - it's awesome! Also, do you know/have you heard anything about the >"Projeckt" albums? Go to the website now... they have alllllll the info on the box set and "best of " ProjecKt CD. www.discipline.globalmobile.com >ChrisW (In a Crimson Mood) >ObCD: Epitaph - KC Mk1 Live Dig that live Schizoid man on disc 1. Giles was THE Drummer for that song. What's best though about the Epitaph package is the liner notes though. very slick and full of good words. Hmmm... I think I'll go buy a CD now. See what this list does?? It promotes capitalism :) beauty and prefection are my attack Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Aug 27 11:14:48 1999 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:14:48 EDT Subject: OFF: its a bird its a place its ProjecKts! In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990827112708.0068d3b8@mail1.wizvax.net> Message-ID: > From: Bolts of Ungodly Vision > >ObCD: Epitaph - KC Mk1 Live > Dig that live Schizoid man on disc 1. Giles was THE Drummer for that song. You got THAT right! I remember way back to the hoary days of old when ItCotCK was released. Man did that album cause a stir. I had a drummer pal who obsessed on the song, and did his best to nail MG's drum parts. In fact MG shines throughout. Always mystified me why he didn't become more of a drum legend. I know he did an album with McDonald after KC. Anyone have any idea what else he did post-KC? theo From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 27 11:40:15 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:40:15 +0100 Subject: Fw: Re: HW: I've been meaning to ask this... In-Reply-To: Rich Lockwood's message of Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:43:28 +0100 Message-ID: Rich Lockwood writes: > Will do when I get home (sometime over the weekend). All I know at the mo. > is that they're all marked 1972 on the label, and the longer intro version > came in a black/white Doremi style sleeve. Sounds like the 1978 7 inch version. Should be A3/B3 FoFP From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Fri Aug 27 12:37:55 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:37:55 -0400 Subject: OFF: MC 5 goodness for under 20 Message-ID: As i said, I went shoppin' and got MC5 _Starship: the MC5 Live at the Sturgis Armory 6/27/68_ from the local used disc store AND MC 5 _Power Trip_. ONly listening to starship right now as i eat kielbasa(sp?) , but let me tell you this- if you though _Kick Out the Jams_ was angry and loud, this is ANGRIER and LOUDER... Come Together has a more experimental middle than what was orignally heard way back on LP.. Can't wait to hear "revolutionary Blues","James Brown Medley-Cold Sweat/I cant Stand Myself/There was a Time," "Little Egypt" and the fabled "Black to Comm". Liner notes have the White panter party statement and all sort o' John Sinclair penned reveries. A shme Tyner and Smith are no longer with us... ahhhhh ears rejoice! we'll proceed to kick 'em out some more, youdont mind do you? - R.Tyner] Brother Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Fri Aug 27 12:46:11 1999 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:46:11 +0100 Subject: shirts In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:15:28 EDT." <19990826151528.B7942@plutonia.com> Message-ID: Steve writes - > > > The artwork of Mk. II was also by Tim Fulcher. > > > > Actually there is a version 0.1, of which there is exactly 1 shirt (painted on > > directly). It's a simpler design than all others but I kinda like it. > > Actually I have a another one-of-a-kind BOC-L t-shirt (a custom > airbrush job). It shows a 2-headed hawk with a fiery blue Chronos > symbol gripped in its claws. The hawk is a little more "cartoonish" > in appearance than I would really prefer, but quite cool nontheless. bizarre. That's almost identical to the shirt I did as well, though the hawk was more angular than cartoonish, a la say the Xenon Codex cover. 'great minds' and all that... ;-) Its a less cluttered design which has space for whatever slogan you prefer. Maybe I'll try and scan an image in. Tim From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Aug 27 14:32:41 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:32:41 -0700 Subject: OFF: MC 5 goodness for under 20 Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:37:55 -0400, Bolts of Ungodly Vision wrote: >Can't wait to hear "revolutionary Blues", >"James Brown Medley-Cold Sweat/I cant Stand Myself/There was a Time," >"Little Egypt" and the fabled "Black to Comm". ... and you'll finally get to hear how "Black To Comm" sounds almost exactly like a certain Hawkwind song off of 'X In Search of Space' (which was not an intentional rewrite) or a certain Spacemen 3 song off of 'Playing With Fire' (which WAS an intentional rewrite of "Black To Comm"). Great stuff! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Aug 27 14:39:12 1999 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:39:12 -0700 Subject: off: "little black egg" Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:56:46 +0200, cosmos wrote: >>> It's available on the ICU cd-rom from Steve Pond, $20, a bargain, >>> you also get the Blood & Bone version, the Imperial Pompadour's Ersatz >>> version, and over 100 other songs... > >i have this cd rom too. >just send steve an email and he answers promptly with the details. >here is his homepage where you can find his email address. >http://www.doremi.co.uk/icu/ I'm not sure if this is still available. When I ordered mine from Steve, he said he was only going to make enough to cover his costs (20-some copies, I think). Hopefully, if you ask him nicely enough, he can still make you a copy. I hope so - it's a fantastic bargain and contains lots of fantastic music! And while I'm on the subject, I should point out that neither the Imperial Pompadours, ICU, or Nik solo (SD99 - and I do mean SOLO) versions of "Little Black Egg" sound anything whatsoever like the Nightcrawlers' original version (or most of the other covers of the song). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From antisol at SOFTHOME.NET Fri Aug 27 18:32:25 1999 From: antisol at SOFTHOME.NET (Sen. Volstead) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:32:25 -0500 Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out Message-ID: DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 8/27/99 6:00:30 AM, jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK writes: > > << > >Why is it that no one famous > >ever acknoledges hawkwind as a fav band? > > Pete Shelley of the Buzzcocks 'fesses up in Mojo, this month. > >> > ======== > axually mr shelley copped to this long ago...nice to hear him repeat it > though. > > if you want another, how about jello biafra? a mention of HW in a review of > my band, disarray, in maximum rock and roll circa '84, led him to write me, > and we corresponded on and off for over a decade...he related his dismay over > having seen the lineup w/ginger baker in england...and it was he who filled > me in on high tide, and would later send me his copy of their 1st > lp..."sabbath fronted by jim morrison" was how he'd described them.... > > anyhoo, cheers then > "<>" Nik Turner's "Past or Future?" CD has a version of Silver Machine, that has an intro written by Jello Biafra. Though it sounds like Nik reading it, the sleeve notes say it is the voice of Jello's. Nevertheless it's very reminiscent of his spoken word stuff so I at least believe he penned it. On the Rob Calvert web site (www.thing.de/projekte/future.htm) you can find an interview where Jello Biafra speaks of Rob Calvert as an early influence to his work. I also read that ICU once played at a show with the Toy Dolls! ...I'd kill to see that. From mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM Fri Aug 27 17:37:10 1999 From: mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM (Marc Power) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 17:37:10 -0400 Subject: NYC Psychedelic SpaceRock Event! Thursday September 2nd 1999 at the Spiral Lounge Message-ID: A SpaceRock extravaganza in the heart of NYC, featuring, fresh from rip-roaring performances at Strange Daze 99: Alien Planetscapes and BORN to GO, plus other exceptional SpaceRock bands: Eschaton, Ambibat, Monkey Love and World of Tomorrow. The fun starts at 8pm and continues until 1:30am. 10:00pm Alien Planetscapes 11:30pm BORN to GO The Spiral Lounge will be broadcasting this event live over the internet. Check here: Help build the SpaceRock scene in NYC attend this event and Support your local SpaceRock! See you there. Marc. From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Fri Aug 27 17:49:42 1999 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:49:42 -0500 Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out Message-ID: > Nik Turner's "Past or Future?" CD has a version of Silver Machine, that has an > intro written by Jello Biafra. Though it sounds like Nik reading it, the sleeve > notes say it is the voice of Jello's. Nevertheless it's very reminiscent of his > spoken word stuff so I at least believe he penned it. Jello does backing vocals on the track "I've got a silver machine", you can hear him singing that. From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Aug 27 17:55:32 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:55:32 +0100 Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out In-Reply-To: <752013a0.24f78bd4@aol.com> Message-ID: At 02:36 27/08/99 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 8/26/99 9:06:42 PM, antisol at SOFTHOME.NET writes: > ><< >That's really amazing. Does anyone recall any earlier appearances of the term >"punk rock"? >>> >============== >boy, couldnt we just go round and round with this'n...but there were multiple >references circa 1971 to, ha ha, the j. geils band being "punk rock", and i >have no doubt there are earlier references than that, dating back to the >second half of the '60s.. cant think of 'em at 2:30am... > >that's just a wacky one that comes to mind... > >then there's always zappa's "flower punk" from '68, perhaps alluding to the >whole garage band-meets-flower-power intermingling...attitues collide... > Strange that this should come up at the same time as the MC5 references, 'coz I always thought that the term had been coined in the early days of th '5 The Stooges, The Amboy Dukes &c. I was trying to find my copy of "Nuggets" to try & support this contention via Lenny Kaye's sleeve notes. Maybe Jon Browne can de-lurk & shed some light on the subject??? ChrisW NP: Freedom & Rain/June Tabor & The Oyster Band "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Aug 27 17:58:01 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:58:01 +0100 Subject: off: Re: ..."timothy" too In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 23:13 26/08/99 +0100, you wrote: >On Thu, 26 Aug 1999 DASLUD at AOL.COM wrote: > >> In a message dated 8/26/99 4:19:43 PM, desdinova at EARTHLING.NET writes: >> >> <<"timothy" was about 3 guys trapped in a cave in; timothy is, ahem, eaten by >> >the other two. rupert holmes would later try to say timothy was a mule, but >> >too late, dude... >> > >> Weeeell, my UFO1 went away a loooong time ago, but I seem to recall that >> the song had a fairly grisly theme, so it could be the same one.... >> >> >> ======= >> wow, that would be neat were it the same song after all...i've got a pal who >> efinitely owns that lp.... >> >> history in action >> "<>" > > For what it's worth, the Freak Emporium mention UFO's Timothy as >one of the originals off that album, but they're not always right. Yours, > >Jon I tracked down my Castle "UFO Collection", and the writing credit is "UFO", so I guess that should clear some of the fog? ChrisW "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM Fri Aug 27 20:05:34 1999 From: hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM (Randy) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 19:05:34 -0500 Subject: HW: T-Shirts In-Reply-To: <37C5D3F1.E6B0C04F@virgin.net> Message-ID: Dave wrote: >OK, for the benefit of us (or is it only me) that don't >have a MK Anything Nethawk shirt, what was the >controversial slogan that causes so much fun at parties? i am not sure what the slogan is but i think it was something like (on the net or on your knees) or something like that. to who ever is doing the Nethawk shirts count me in for a XL Randy From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Aug 27 20:24:46 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew Apold) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:24:46 -0400 Subject: HW: T-Shirts In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990827190534.00696eb8@pop.interaccess.com> Message-ID: At 07:05 PM 8/27/1999 -0500, you wrote: >Dave wrote: >>OK, for the benefit of us (or is it only me) that don't >>have a MK Anything Nethawk shirt, what was the >>controversial slogan that causes so much fun at parties? > >i am not sure what the slogan is but i think it was something like >(on the net or on your knees) or something like that. > >to who ever is doing the Nethawk shirts count me in for a XL You know, to date I've never heard anyone definitively say they are doing it.... which is probably something we need to settle before we place orders and argue on the slogan. ============================= "To dwell within Samsara, however, is to be subject to the works of those mighty among dreamers." - Mahasamatman, in Zelazny's "Lord of Light" Andrew Apold From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Fri Aug 27 21:20:52 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 20:20:52 -0500 Subject: HW: Get out yur wallets ! ! Message-ID: Has anyone noticed the massive releases that hit CDZone last week? www.cdzone.co.uk Listed on my Whats New(s) page www.intplsrv.net/hawkman/whatsnew.html Hawkman. (Dave ! ! What happened to "Collectors Series #3") From lwitt1 at USWEST.NET Fri Aug 27 22:03:45 1999 From: lwitt1 at USWEST.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 21:03:45 -0500 Subject: HW: Turner Message-ID: I'm looking to do some trading. I have the Nik Turner SD 99 show on my hardrive now, so it's easy to make some cdrs. Would like to trade for other cdrs. If interested private email me. From hawkwind at ZEBRA.NET Sat Aug 28 01:42:35 1999 From: hawkwind at ZEBRA.NET (Jerome Kekatos) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 00:42:35 -0500 Subject: HW: Jello Loves HW Message-ID: Groove-alicious compilation spoken word lp from 1987 FEAR POWER GOD, featuring Jello B. doing a "ohmygodamIhavinaflashback" free interpretation version of the Sonic Attack, called Alien Orders. oooooo scary. do not panic, you are already living in a police state... From asg at LAGUNA.COM.MX Sat Aug 28 00:56:52 1999 From: asg at LAGUNA.COM.MX (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 05:56:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Codex Message-ID: Hi there, Is there a more recently updated version of the Codex available somewhere ? The one I have is from 1996... Thanks. Alex S. Garcia. --------------------------------------------------- Read the Icarus Encyclopedia of Fantasy & SF - http://www.noosfere.com/ (in French) - http://www.noosfere.com/icarus/homepage.htm (in English) Music videos : members.xoom.com/agarc/mvdb/ My Web HQ : members.tripod.com/~Mandor/ --------------------------------------------------- From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Sat Aug 28 09:47:59 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 08:47:59 -0500 Subject: HW: Codex Message-ID: >Is there a more recently updated version of the Codex available somewhere ? >The one I have is from 1996... If your just looking for CD releases (Titles, no songs) then go to Hawkman Music Then use Andrew Dawsons page to find out the details Hawkman From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Aug 28 09:07:58 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 09:07:58 -0400 Subject: HW/OFF: Gong-related stuff Message-ID: Hi Folks... Here's some random stuff about Gong activities, including some bits of HW-related stuff. Keith H. (FAA) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gong have started to record a new studio album, their first since 1992?s Shapeshifter. More recoding will take place in September. The line-up at present is Daevid, Gilli, Mike Howlett, Theo Travis, Chris Taylor and Didier Malberbe. It is scheduled for a Spring 2000 release. GONG Line-up at least Daevid Allen, Gilli Smyth, Mike Howlett, Theo Travis, Chris Taylor with Didier guesting in France. Fri 15th Oct UK-Glastonbury: Town Hall-to be confirmed. tel 01749-676-624 Sat 16th Oct UK--Southampton: The Brook-to be confirmed Wed 20th Oct France-Nancy Jazz Festival : Chapiteau de la Pepini?re Gong play this festival mid recording (so expect some new songs) along with Magma & a band put together by Robert Wyatt called Soupson, who include Didier Malherbe and Annie Whitehead. I don't however think this means Robert performing with them. GONG MATRIST with Gilli Smyth Gilli, Pierce on bass, James on Keys and programming, Aryeh on electric violin, harp and flutes. After 24th Oct USA-California-2 gigs: -to be confirmed (Hmmm....I thought they were called GongMatrix. It's Gilli with Azigza anyway) KH FUTURE POSSIBILITIES Hubble bubble, simmering ideas. PLANET GONG : USA Tour Plans being hatched for Daevid, Steffe, Keith Missile, Steve Cassidy & Mark Robson to bring the perfect, anarchic, space-punk set/band to the States. Oh Ali Baba, Ali Baba....make it so. DAEVID ALLEN'S UNIVERSITY OF ERRORS : UK dates-Spring 2000. GONG : 2000. Israel gigs, European Tour, S. American Tour? Further updates on the Gong/GAS website (hopefully). ------------------------- LATEST GONG FAMILY RELEASES Available now (all prices in UK pounds stirling) CD Here & Now- Gospel of Free-Live 76-78 (GAS) 12.50 A wild live, psychedelic experience with Here & Now from the vaults. The accompanying 32 page booklet is crammed with the photographs and artifacts, the history and thoughts and the tall tales of those transforming times. CD Goddess T- Electric Shiatzu (Voiceprint) 12.50 Organic techno/trance. The band is Gilli Smyth, Orlando Allen, Tone, Nick Spacetree with Mark Hewins and Daevid guesting many of the tracks, Plus the help and input of a host of other musicians and a whale! Highly good. CD Brainville- The Children?s Crusade (Shimmy Disc) 13.50 Daevid, Hugh Hopper, Kramer and Pip Pyle together as Brainville Mind-bending psychedelic noise. Hard yet gentle, heavy yet ethereal. You want beautiful extremes... you got them here. CD Daevid Allen?s University of Errors-Money Doesn?t Make It (InnerSpace) 12.50 Imagine Gong?s Continental Circus crossed with New York Gong and a splash of Camembert and you have a picture of this release. A Rhythmic gliss and guitar fest. CD Kangaroo Moon-In Transit (K. Moon) 12.50 Latest and best Moonie studio CD. Simply superb. Like a huge jouney round the world on a Kangaroo. 2LP Various-Open Air Berg Herzberg (Think Progressive) 12.50 New 180 gsm collectors vinyl release for this collection of live tracks from this famous German festival. Gong?s contribution is a 19 minute track called Would You Like Some Tea. Other bands incl Hawkwind, Faust, Guru Guru and Man. We also have theCD version at 13.50. LP Daevid Allen-Bananamoon (Get Back) 12.50 New 180 gsm collectors vinyl re-release of Daevid?s first album from 1970. Gatefold sleeve. Go to www.sonnet.co.uk/gong-gas/ for ordering details... ------------------------- FUTURE RELEASES Release Autumn CD: Russell Hibbs (with bonus Daevid tracks)- ? (Voiceprint) Finishing Artwork CD: Hawkwind (with Tim Blake)- The Complete Live 79 (Hawks) Finishing Artwork CD: Didier Malherbe's Hadouk - 2nd CD Mixing CD: Daevid Allen's University of Errors- 2nd CD (Inner Space) Recording CD: Tim Blake- Crystal Island (Voiceprint) Recording CD: Steffe- ? Recording CD: Invisible Opera Co. of Tibet- ? Recording CD: Gong- ? To be mixed CD: Anima Rising (Steffe/Cheryl Newsam)- ? Mixing/Artwork CD: Daevid Allen-Seven Drones Recording CD: Daevid Allen's University of Errors- 3rd CD (Inner Space) To be mixed CD: Lady June/Mark Hewins- Rebela To be scheduled CD: Tim Blake- New Jerusalem (Voiceprint) Recording CD: Bubbled Up On Dub- Vol 2 (Gliss) (Hmmm...looks like the entire Live '79 show *is* being planned for release. Presumably, it will include New Jerusalem and Nati?? I wonder if Silver Machine will be restored to its original condition!? Looks also like we'll have to wait awhile for that Tim Blake CD, if its still in 'recording' stage!) KH Keith H. (FAA) From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Aug 28 09:10:18 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 09:10:18 -0400 Subject: HW/OFF: Gong-related stuff Message-ID: Jerry...FYI Here's some random stuff about Gong activities, including some bits of HW-related stuff. Keith ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gong have started to record a new studio album, their first since 1992?s Shapeshifter. More recoding will take place in September. The line-up at present is Daevid, Gilli, Mike Howlett, Theo Travis, Chris Taylor and Didier Malberbe. It is scheduled for a Spring 2000 release. GONG Line-up at least Daevid Allen, Gilli Smyth, Mike Howlett, Theo Travis, Chris Taylor with Didier guesting in France. Fri 15th Oct UK-Glastonbury: Town Hall-to be confirmed. tel 01749-676-624 Sat 16th Oct UK--Southampton: The Brook-to be confirmed Wed 20th Oct France-Nancy Jazz Festival : Chapiteau de la Pepini?re Gong play this festival mid recording (so expect some new songs) along with Magma & a band put together by Robert Wyatt called Soupson, who include Didier Malherbe and Annie Whitehead. I don't however think this means Robert performing with them. GONG MATRIST with Gilli Smyth Gilli, Pierce on bass, James on Keys and programming, Aryeh on electric violin, harp and flutes. After 24th Oct USA-California-2 gigs: -to be confirmed (Hmmm....I thought they were called GongMatrix. It's Gilli with Azigza anyway) KH FUTURE POSSIBILITIES Hubble bubble, simmering ideas. PLANET GONG : USA Tour Plans being hatched for Daevid, Steffe, Keith Missile, Steve Cassidy & Mark Robson to bring the perfect, anarchic, space-punk set/band to the States. Oh Ali Baba, Ali Baba....make it so. DAEVID ALLEN'S UNIVERSITY OF ERRORS : UK dates-Spring 2000. GONG : 2000. Israel gigs, European Tour, S. American Tour? Further updates on the Gong/GAS website (hopefully). ------------------------- LATEST GONG FAMILY RELEASES Available now (all prices in UK pounds stirling) CD Here & Now- Gospel of Free-Live 76-78 (GAS) 12.50 A wild live, psychedelic experience with Here & Now from the vaults. The accompanying 32 page booklet is crammed with the photographs and artifacts, the history and thoughts and the tall tales of those transforming times. CD Goddess T- Electric Shiatzu (Voiceprint) 12.50 Organic techno/trance. The band is Gilli Smyth, Orlando Allen, Tone, Nick Spacetree with Mark Hewins and Daevid guesting many of the tracks, Plus the help and input of a host of other musicians and a whale! Highly good. CD Brainville- The Children?s Crusade (Shimmy Disc) 13.50 Daevid, Hugh Hopper, Kramer and Pip Pyle together as Brainville Mind-bending psychedelic noise. Hard yet gentle, heavy yet ethereal. You want beautiful extremes... you got them here. CD Daevid Allen?s University of Errors-Money Doesn?t Make It (InnerSpace) 12.50 Imagine Gong?s Continental Circus crossed with New York Gong and a splash of Camembert and you have a picture of this release. A Rhythmic gliss and guitar fest. CD Kangaroo Moon-In Transit (K. Moon) 12.50 Latest and best Moonie studio CD. Simply superb. Like a huge jouney round the world on a Kangaroo. 2LP Various-Open Air Berg Herzberg (Think Progressive) 12.50 New 180 gsm collectors vinyl release for this collection of live tracks from this famous German festival. Gong?s contribution is a 19 minute track called Would You Like Some Tea. Other bands incl Hawkwind, Faust, Guru Guru and Man. We also have theCD version at 13.50. LP Daevid Allen-Bananamoon (Get Back) 12.50 New 180 gsm collectors vinyl re-release of Daevid?s first album from 1970. Gatefold sleeve. Go to www.sonnet.co.uk/gong-gas/ for ordering details... ------------------------- FUTURE RELEASES Release Autumn CD: Russell Hibbs (with bonus Daevid tracks)- ? (Voiceprint) Finishing Artwork CD: Hawkwind (with Tim Blake)- The Complete Live 79 (Hawks) Finishing Artwork CD: Didier Malherbe's Hadouk - 2nd CD Mixing CD: Daevid Allen's University of Errors- 2nd CD (Inner Space) Recording CD: Tim Blake- Crystal Island (Voiceprint) Recording CD: Steffe- ? Recording CD: Invisible Opera Co. of Tibet- ? Recording CD: Gong- ? To be mixed CD: Anima Rising (Steffe/Cheryl Newsam)- ? Mixing/Artwork CD: Daevid Allen-Seven Drones Recording CD: Daevid Allen's University of Errors- 3rd CD (Inner Space) To be mixed CD: Lady June/Mark Hewins- Rebela To be scheduled CD: Tim Blake- New Jerusalem (Voiceprint) Recording CD: Bubbled Up On Dub- Vol 2 (Gliss) (Hmmm...looks like the entire Live '79 show *is* being planned for release. Presumably, it will include New Jerusalem and Nati?? I wonder if Silver Machine will be restored to its original condition!? Looks also like we'll have to wait awhile for that Tim Blake CD, if its still in 'recording' stage!) KH Keith H. (FAA) From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Aug 27 06:07:25 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:07:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out In-Reply-To: <37C5F1FD.7C84E69D@softhome.net> Message-ID: In article <37C5F1FD.7C84E69D at softhome.net>, Sen. Volstead writes >Does anyone recall any earlier appearances of the term >"punk rock"? oh yes, indeed Before the term was reapplied to the 70's punks, "punk rock" was a common enough term for bands like MC5, Iggy etc and all the Nuggets bands like the Prunes, the Elevators, The Seeds etc. The 60's garage sound was called punk in most rock books published prior to '75. -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Aug 27 06:01:19 1999 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 11:01:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Andy Gilham writes >> Hawkwinds One of johnny rottens fav bands eh? > >I've heard this one a few times - sometimes it's claimed he was a Hawkwind >roadie, but I don't think that's true. Mind you, knowing Rotten, he might >just say he likes HW to piss people off. quite possibly, as apparently he never really "hated Pink Floyd". When he and Dave Gilmour met, he told Dave he "quite liked them really" Lydon in Punk/Floyd shock! -- Jon From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Sat Aug 28 11:39:22 1999 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:39:22 +1000 Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out Message-ID: Jon Browne wrote... > >> Hawkwinds One of johnny rottens fav bands eh? > > > >I've heard this one a few times - sometimes it's claimed he was a Hawkwind > >roadie, but I don't think that's true. Mind you, knowing Rotten, he might > >just say he likes HW to piss people off. > > quite possibly, as apparently he never really "hated Pink Floyd". > When he and Dave Gilmour met, he told Dave he "quite liked them really" And - Malcom Mclaren approached Syd Barrett at one point (when Syd was having one of his er... "off" periods) and asked him to produce one of the Pistols' albums. Certainly would have been strange... Max Wilcox From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sat Aug 28 12:21:25 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:21:25 EDT Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out Message-ID: In a message dated 8/28/99 11:41:31 AM, m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU writes: << And - Malcom Mclaren approached Syd Barrett at one point (when Syd was having one of his er... "off" periods) and asked him to produce one of the Pistols' albums. Certainly would have been strange... >> =========== gee, um, since his leaving der floyd, how often has the sydster NOT been "off"? strange it would have been, sho nuff...^_~ "<>" From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sat Aug 28 13:16:07 1999 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:16:07 -0500 Subject: HW: One Way Records Close Out Items Message-ID: Don't think this has been posted yet . . . Found some Close Out items at One Way Records: http://www.artist-shop.com/oneway/index.htm#closeout Hawkwind/Doremi Fasol Latido ....CD $9.99 Hawkwind/Hawkwind ....CD $9.99 Hawkwind/In Search of Space ....CD $9.99 Hawkwind/Stasis: The U.A. Years 1971-1975 ....CD $9.99 From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Sat Aug 28 15:46:11 1999 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:46:11 EDT Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out Message-ID: I saw a brief discussion on Pete shelley being influenced by Hawkwind earlier..I recall seeing the Buzzcocks live in manchester at an outdoor event and hearing Shelley say that they hoped to make a live album as great as Space Ritual one day.Sometime later I saw an interview in sounds where he stated that space ritual was his favourite live album ever. (This would be about 78...I think the gig was an Anti Nazi League benefit or rally or something. From greatsunjester at YAHOO.COM Sat Aug 28 23:48:23 1999 From: greatsunjester at YAHOO.COM (Darnell Buffington) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 20:48:23 -0700 Subject: BOC: Magic in Atlantic City Message-ID: Checked out the show after more than 10 years of being BOC-free, and was impressed. It was a great show this weekend in an upscale, private atmosphere of 400 people. There was a real closeness with the fans. There were a bunch of AOL-types there. Anyway, the band sounded tight, and Mr. Rosier is still DA MAN. In the song lineup, there was nothing from RBN or CJ, and only Harvest Moon from HF. An awesome show and well worth the flight time. GSJ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Aug 29 00:14:25 1999 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 00:14:25 -0400 Subject: HW: SD'99 photos Message-ID: Hi Folks...looks like 'our' SD'99 photos are now up and available for public consumption. Keith H. (FAA) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Check out our pics from the Strange Daze 1999 SpaceRock Festival. Some are a bit on the blurry side but you'll still get a feel for the fest. I broke it up into five pages so you wouldn't go totally crazy waiting for the pics to load. Links to the pics are at the Aural Innovations page (see sig). Jerry Kranitz (jkranitz at infinet.com) Check out Aural Innovations, the global SpaceRock maga"zine": http://www.infinet.com/~jkranitz/space/space.html (Space Page) http://www.infinet.com/~jkranitz/music/music.html (Prog Page) From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sat Aug 28 15:13:14 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 20:13:14 +0100 Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 11:07 27/08/99 +0100, you wrote: >In article <37C5F1FD.7C84E69D at softhome.net>, Sen. Volstead > writes >>Does anyone recall any earlier appearances of the term >>"punk rock"? > >oh yes, indeed > >Before the term was reapplied to the 70's punks, "punk rock" was a >common enough term for bands like MC5, Iggy etc and all the Nuggets >bands like the Prunes, the Elevators, The Seeds etc. The 60's garage >sound was called punk in most rock books published prior to '75. > >-- >Jon > Thank-you very much...show's the old brain hasn't clouded-up completely :-{)> ChrisW NP:Gomez/Bring It On "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From cosmos at CASEMA.NET Sun Aug 29 13:34:44 1999 From: cosmos at CASEMA.NET (cosmos) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:34:44 +0200 Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out / buzzcocks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >I saw a brief discussion on Pete shelley being influenced by Hawkwind >earlier..I recall seeing the Buzzcocks live in manchester at an outdoor event >and hearing Shelley say that they hoped to make a live album as great as >Space Ritual one day.Sometime later I saw an interview in sounds where he >stated that space ritual was his favourite live album ever. >(This would be about 78...I think the gig was an Anti Nazi League benefit or >rally or something. and for me the buzzcocks/shelley wrote and performed some of best punksingles ever made. listen to their singles going steady album, if you want to know what i mean. so that makes two ........ andre From DASLUD at AOL.COM Sun Aug 29 15:04:26 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:04:26 EDT Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out / buzzcocks Message-ID: In a message dated 8/29/99 1:35:39 PM, cosmos at CASEMA.NET writes: << and for me the buzzcocks/shelley wrote and performed some of best punksingles ever made. listen to their singles going steady album, if you want to know what i mean. so that makes two ........ andre >> ===== and for me the first two buzzcocks lp's rank way up on my all time list, so that makes 2 more... "<>" From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Sun Aug 29 16:10:44 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:10:44 -0400 Subject: OFF: the beast wakes up in a 250 seat venue Message-ID: Since the band is THAT good, here's a ditty to pass on: "King Crimson will return to active duty in the front line at 12th & Porter, in Nashville, between Wednesday 17th. - Saturday 20th. November, 1999. The four consecutive shows begin at 21.00. Tickets will be on sale at $15.00 from the middle of September. Audients are asked to refrain from smoking, photography and recording. If any potential audience member finds these conditions onerous or unacceptable in any way, these shows are not for them. The members of King Crimson reserve their rights to withdraw from any performance should this request be violated. DGM Live as Archiveconcert.com & Bootlegtv.com intend to make these performances initially available through net download." Ought to be rather a non-boring instance of musik. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sun Aug 29 17:15:10 1999 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:15:10 -0500 Subject: HW: only 5 copies left... Message-ID: Found another great buy out there . . . I've been updating the music vendor links on a website I do for a prog radio show and have ended up finding some great stuff and placing a few orders! Check this out! This is not a typo but they only have about 5 copies left. ALAN DAVEY-Captured Rotation (UK) $6.00 US$ Debut solo album from Hawkwind's current bassist; here Davey adds guitars & synths to the cosmic stew. Vocalist Ron Tree appears on 3 tracks. Mostly instrumental. It sounds quite a bit like Hawkwind in a lot of ways. http://cuneiformrecords.com/wayjr.html http://cuneiformrecords.com/ Wow. If anyone wants to check out a good prog show online, you can tune in on the internet Sunday nights from 9-10:30pm Central to Planet Prog. http://claim.to/planprog.html Happy shopping/listening! Karen From mordru at FLITE.NET Mon Aug 30 09:29:52 1999 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:29:52 -0400 Subject: winamp skins Message-ID: Does anyone have or know of any winamp skins for BOC or Hawkwind? "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random =============== Andrew Apold From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Mon Aug 30 09:08:19 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Bart Brugmans (aka Gekke Henkie)) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:08:19 +0200 Subject: HW: Jello Loves HW In-Reply-To: <000201bef118$34143040$a9450cd1@hawkwind> Message-ID: Op 28 Aug 99, om 0:42, Jerome Kekatos schreef: > Groove-alicious compilation spoken word lp from 1987 FEAR POWER GOD, > featuring Jello B. doing a "ohmygodamIhavinaflashback" free interpretation > version of the Sonic Attack, called Alien Orders. oooooo scary. do not > panic, you are already living in a police state... Jello with HW, hmm a very nice combo afaics Maybe HW can do a cover of california uber alles some weird strange cover warning for a space take-over by little green or grey (wo)men coming from Mars after defeting Uncle Sam of course! --BArt From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Mon Aug 30 03:59:09 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Bart Brugmans (aka Gekke Henkie)) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:59:09 +0200 Subject: HW:Year 2000 Message-ID: Hi All, I walked in to the store last weekend and found a cd called Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind volume one, on the Millenium Communications label (never heard of). It consists of Space Ritual 2 and Text of festival, packed in a very nice plastic box an it says to be remastereed, although i do not hear any difference. Does anyone know more about this, like what the other releases will be, as could not find any on the net... --BArt btw I'm in for a t-shirt (L would be fine) From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Mon Aug 30 09:41:31 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Bart Brugmans (aka Gekke Henkie)) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:41:31 +0200 Subject: off: seti@home update Message-ID: WARNING THIS A COMMERICIAL MESSAGE OR YOU MAY FIND IT OFFENSIVE Hi, is your computer still doing nothing when you are doing nothing? The join the seti at home, boc-hw-list group. We consist of 8 members right now, and have finished 138 datapack. We can do with some more help. Join us at: http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi bin/cgi?cmd=team_lookup&name =in+search+of... END OF MESSAGE --BArt From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Mon Aug 30 10:24:57 1999 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:24:57 +1000 Subject: HW: Jello Loves HW Message-ID: And also, of course, Jello sings on Silver Machine in Nik's "Past or Future?" - wish he had of sung more, or perhaps more audibly, but there you go. I'd say that songs like Calvert's Burpin' Gorilla were hugely influential for the `ol DKs. In fact, I recall that there are some quotes from Jello on Knut's Spirit of the P/Age. Max Wilcox From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Aug 30 11:53:51 1999 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 16:53:51 +0100 Subject: HW:Year 2000 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Hi All, > > I walked in to the store last weekend and found a cd called > Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind volume one, on the Millenium > Communications label (never heard of). > It consists of Space Ritual 2 and Text of festival, packed in a very > nice plastic box an it says to be remastereed, although i do not > hear any difference. > Does anyone know more about this, like what the other releases > will be, as could not find any on the net... Oh Christ, not those again. Someone who'll remain nameless hoping to cash in on EMI's PR spend on _Epoch/Eclipse_, no doubt. Which is now out, in both formats, by the way, and rather glorious it is too. With the "Silver Machine" remix as well, and packaging of the calibre of the EMI remasters. About as good a job as could have been done, I'd say in my unbiased fashion, (except for putting "Coded Languages" on there. :) --Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 30 12:46:38 1999 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:46:38 +0100 Subject: HW:Year 2000 In-Reply-To: aka Gekke Henkie's message of Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:59:09 +0200 Message-ID: aka Gekke Henkie writes: > Hi All, > > I walked in to the store last weekend and found a cd called > Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind volume one, on the Millenium > Communications label (never heard of). > It consists of Space Ritual 2 and Text of festival, packed in a very > nice plastic box an it says to be remastereed, although i do not > hear any difference. > Does anyone know more about this, like what the other releases > will be, as could not find any on the net... There are going to be two of these packages consisting of all the Dave Anderson stuff, allegedly also with the side of Text of Festival that hasn't as yet made it to CD. FoFP From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Mon Aug 30 14:11:10 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:11:10 -0500 Subject: HW: Year 2000 Message-ID: >I walked in to the store last weekend and found a cd called >Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind volume one, on the Millenium >Communications label (never heard of). >It consists of Space Ritual 2 and Text of festival, packed in a very >nice plastic box an it says to be remastereed, although i do not >hear any difference. >Does anyone know more about this, like what the other releases >will be, as could not find any on the net... Your the first one I've heard of getting it. By the way, if Anyone comes across a new re-issue of the "Text of Festival" on CD, Please let me know. Andy G of CD Services listed it on his news page but hasn't responded on where to find it. Thanks, Folks. Stephan P.S. Like to hear a few words from D.B. on the new releases ! ! (How `bout it, Dave?) From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Mon Aug 30 15:30:47 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:30:47 -0500 Subject: HW: Year 2000 Message-ID: >>I walked in to the store last weekend and found a cd called >>Year 2000: Codename Hawkwind volume one, on the Millenium >>Communications label (never heard of). >>It consists of Space Ritual 2 and Text of festival, packed in a very >>nice plastic box an it says to be remastereed, although i do not >>hear any difference. >>Does anyone know more about this, like what the other releases >>will be, as could not find any on the net... Your the first one I've heard of getting it. By the way, if Anyone comes across a new re-issue of the "Text of Festival" on CD, Please let me know. Andy G of CD Services listed it on his news page but hasn't responded on where to find it. Thanks, Folks. Stephan P.S. Like to hear a few words from D.B. on the new releases ! ! (How `bout it, Dave?) From age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK Mon Aug 30 16:37:06 1999 From: age.p at CONIFERSCLOSE.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Adrian Parr) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:37:06 +0100 Subject: 30 Years of Hawkwind Message-ID: 30 Years of Hawkwind Friday August 29th 1969 to 29th August 1999 Happy Anniversary Age Visit the "Hawkeye on Hawkwind" website at: http://www.conifersclose.freeserve.co.uk/index.html From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Mon Aug 30 18:25:17 1999 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:25:17 EDT Subject: OFF: "Space Does Not Care" Set-list/Instructns4Web-radio Message-ID: "Space Does Not Care" 8/28/99, 88.3 fm KUCR, Saturdays 7-9 pm PST --Note 1: assistance this week provided by Anish --Note 2: see below for web-radio instructions 1.Celtic Frost--Innocence and Wrath 2.Hawkwind--Brainstorm (Space Ritual) 3.Beyondomatic--Clara 4.Cathedral--Soul Sacrifice (Soul Sacr. EP) 5.Helios Creed--The Descent 6.Pressurehed--Dark Runs Deeper 7.Tangerine Dream--Phaedra 8.Melting Euphoria--Harbour of Infinity 9.F/i--Boots of Ascention 10.Zero Gravity--Time in My Brain/Space Does Not Care 11.Orb--Bang'er 'N Chips 12.Contagious Orgasm--The Spot 4:06-7:06 (Japanese industrial noise from "Conception" comp) 13.Mirza--Aphasia 14.Anubian Lights--12/24/2011 15.Nile--Ramses: Bringer of War (symphonic death metal) 16.Hawkwind--Iron Dream (played in tandem w/Nile because both use Holst's "Jupiter riff") 17.Amon Duul II--Wie Der Wind Am Ende Einer Strasse 18.Hawkwind--Conjuration of Magnu/Magnu (Live Chronicles) 19.Therion--Ho Drakon Ho Megas (the ultimate symphonic metal) Instructions for listening to KUCR on the web. 1) Download the Winamp installation file from the address below. "Winamp Basic" rather than the larger file, "Winamp Complete," is all you'll need to hear KUCR. http://www.winamp.com/winamp/download/index.phtml After you've downloaded the installation file (Winamp25c.exe is the latest at this time), run it by double-clicking. This will install Winamp on your computer. After you've installed Winamp, you need to run the actual Winamp program (Winamp.exe) but first you need to connect to your internet server so Winamp can connect to the Internet. When you run Winamp, a small screen comes up on the left with lots of fancy controls. Ignore them to begin with. Also on the right, a web page is displayed which you can also ignore. On the lower left hand corner is a button which says "add". Click that and then click the top button of the three that come up above the one you just clicked on. When asked to provide an internet address, type in the following http://www.kucr.org:8000 Say OK. One more step. Double click on the item in the file box of Winamp and it will start to play KUCR live. If it stops playing or breaks up, double click again to reconnect. Chuck's program is on the air at 7:00 pm Pacific Time. The US is currently on daylight savings time which makes us in California minus seven hours from UTC, GMT, Zulu or whatever they call the standard "universal" time in your country. When the time change comes here in the fall, we will be minus eight hours from UTC. So it will be around 0200 or 0300 in Europe for you UK and German fans but "Space Does Not Care" is well worth staying up late for. No fair listening to other KUCR programs after we've gone to all the trouble to get you connected. Just kidding... From makmorn at QIS.NET Mon Aug 30 19:09:11 1999 From: makmorn at QIS.NET (Daniel Ligon) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:09:11 -0400 Subject: off: seti@home update In-Reply-To: ; from Bart Brugmans (aka Gekke Henkie) on Mon, Aug 30, 1999 at 03:41:31PM +0200 Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 30, 1999 at 03:41:31PM +0200, Bart Brugmans (aka Gekke Henkie) wrote: > WARNING THIS A COMMERICIAL MESSAGE OR YOU MAY > FIND IT OFFENSIVE > Hi, > is your computer still doing nothing when you are doing nothing? The join the > seti at home, boc-hw-list group. We consist of 8 members right now, and > have finished 138 datapack. We can do with some more help. > Join us at: > http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi bin/cgi?cmd=team_lookup&name > =in+search+of... > END OF MESSAGE There is also a Blue Oyster Cult group: http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/cgi?cmd=team_lookup&name=blue+oyster+cult which has 73 members, including Eric and Buck. -- Daniel Ligon makmorn at qis.net We are in the hands of infinite power and infinite sadism. -- _Inferno_ From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Mon Aug 30 17:55:43 1999 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:55:43 +0100 Subject: HW: Epoch Eclipse review in Time Out / buzzcocks In-Reply-To: <4bb90f65.24fade3a@aol.com> Message-ID: At 15:04 29/08/99 EDT, you wrote: >In a message dated 8/29/99 1:35:39 PM, cosmos at CASEMA.NET writes: > ><< >and for me the buzzcocks/shelley wrote and performed some of best punksingles >ever made. >listen to their singles going steady album, if you want to know what i mean. >so that makes two ........ > >andre > >>> >===== >and for me the first two buzzcocks lp's rank way up on my all time list, so >that makes 2 more... > >"<>" Heady days...all the original singles except "Orgasm Addict" sit in my 7" box.... Liverpool Empire '78(?) - a great night! ChrisW "a cynic is a man who when he smells flowers looks around for a coffin" - Bierce From asg at LAGUNA.COM.MX Mon Aug 30 20:08:32 1999 From: asg at LAGUNA.COM.MX (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 01:08:32 +0100 Subject: HW: Codex Message-ID: >>Is there a more recently updated version of the Codex available somewhere ? >>The one I have is from 1996... > >If your just looking for CD releases (Titles, no songs) then go to Hawkman >Music >Then use Andrew Dawsons page to find out the details OK. And where's Hawkman Music ? Alex. --------------------------------------------------- Read the Icarus Encyclopedia of Fantasy & SF - http://www.noosfere.com/ (in French) - http://www.noosfere.com/icarus/homepage.htm (in English) Music videos : members.xoom.com/agarc/mvdb/ My Web HQ : members.tripod.com/~Mandor/ --------------------------------------------------- From sonique at SONIQUE.NET Tue Aug 31 07:02:00 1999 From: sonique at SONIQUE.NET (Sonique) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:02:00 +1000 Subject: off: seti@home update Message-ID: On Mon, Aug 30, 1999 at 03:41:31PM +0200, Bart wrote: > Join us at: http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi > bin/cgi?cmd=team_lookup&name =in+search+of... Then, On 30 Aug 99, at 19:09, Daniel Ligon wrote: > There is also a Blue Oyster Cult group: > > http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/cgi?cmd=team_lookup&name=blue+o > ys ter+cult > > which has 73 members, including Eric and Buck. Sounds like a challenge!! S. -- sonique at sonique.net From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Tue Aug 31 07:07:18 1999 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:07:18 +0900 Subject: off: seti@home update Message-ID: So who's going to persuade Dave and Kris to join the forces of light? Sonique wrote: > On Mon, Aug 30, 1999 at 03:41:31PM +0200, Bart wrote: > > > Join us at: http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi > > bin/cgi?cmd=team_lookup&name =in+search+of... > > Then, On 30 Aug 99, at 19:09, Daniel Ligon wrote: > > > There is also a Blue Oyster Cult group: > > > > http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/cgi-bin/cgi?cmd=team_lookup&name=blue+o > > ys ter+cult > > > > which has 73 members, including Eric and Buck. > > Sounds like a challenge!! > > S. > > -- > sonique at sonique.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eggfoolejung at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Aug 31 07:31:45 1999 From: eggfoolejung at HOTMAIL.COM (Suicide Victory) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 04:31:45 PDT Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet question Message-ID: Hi all, I'm racking my brains trying to recall from whence the repeated quote "I'm not stealing your vision, you're just blind" is from, which Dave Wyndorf keeps saying in the middle of the live "Cage Around The Sun", from the tour edition of Powertrip. Anyone else recognize this? Of course he paraphrases Rob Tyner by doing the MC5 "I wanna see you see your hands out there!" thing. Christian ObBummer: BROKE my copy of Hawkwind's TAT in two! Anyone have a spare copy for trade????? (right...) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL Tue Aug 31 07:49:35 1999 From: bart at BUNDERSBOS.DEMON.NL (Bart Brugmans (aka Gekke Henkie)) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:49:35 +0200 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet question In-Reply-To: <19990831113146.90186.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Op 31 Aug 99, om 4:31, Suicide Victory schreef: > ObBummer: BROKE my copy of Hawkwind's TAT in two! Anyone have a spare copy > for trade????? (right...) Sorry for my ignorance, but what is TAT? --BArt From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Tue Aug 31 08:39:05 1999 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:39:05 -0400 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet question In-Reply-To: <19990831113146.90186.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: At 04:31 AM 8/31/99 PDT, you wrote: >Of course he paraphrases Rob Tyner by doing the MC5 "I wanna see you see >your hands out there!" thing. I always thought it was "I wanna see a sea of hands out there" both ways have heaps to Tynerness. Jason NP: MC 5 doing "Cold Sweat" -- proving yet again "even a white boy can be bad too (excluding Albert Bouchard of course because his funk wasn't evident till later. Y'know, he would have made an intersting drummer for the now defunct Body Count)." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Tue Aug 31 09:54:29 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:54:29 -0500 Subject: HW: Discography info Message-ID: >>>Is there a more recently updated version of the Codex available somewhere ? >>>The one I have is from 1996... >> >>If your just looking for CD releases (Titles, no songs) then go to Hawkman >>Music >>Then use Andrew Dawsons page to find out the details > >OK. And where's Hawkman Music ? Where's Hawkman Music? Where's Hawkman Music???? Hello? McFly? ....... :)))) www.intplsrv.net/hawkman Also on all Major Search Engines And a few selected Hawkwind Web Sites From jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK Tue Aug 31 14:09:10 1999 From: jill at THETA-ORIONIS.FREESERVE.CO.UK (Jill) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:09:10 +0100 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet question Message-ID: "Bart Brugmans (aka Gekke Henkie)" wrote: > > Op 31 Aug 99, om 4:31, Suicide Victory schreef: > > ObBummer: BROKE my copy of Hawkwind's TAT in two! Anyone have a spare copy > > for trade????? (right...) > Sorry for my ignorance, but what is TAT? > Took me a few minutes to work that one out too - it's been a LONG time! Travellers Aid Trust. Copies appear occasionally - usually fairly cheaply without the booklet so I'll look around for one. jill -- ====================================================================== Jill Strobridge or J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk ====================================================================== From asg at LAGUNA.COM.MX Tue Aug 31 09:30:09 1999 From: asg at LAGUNA.COM.MX (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:30:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Discography info Message-ID: >Where's Hawkman Music? Where's Hawkman Music???? >Hello? McFly? ....... :)))) *smile* Well, hey, I'm more on the BOC-side of the list, actually, so I don't know all that much about Hawkwind... sorry for the obvious question :-) Alex. --------------------------------------------------- Read the Icarus Encyclopedia of Fantasy & SF - http://www.noosfere.com/ (in French) - http://www.noosfere.com/icarus/homepage.htm (in English) Music videos : members.xoom.com/agarc/mvdb/ My Web HQ : members.tripod.com/~Mandor/ --------------------------------------------------- From DASLUD at AOL.COM Tue Aug 31 15:51:19 1999 From: DASLUD at AOL.COM (DASLUD at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:51:19 EDT Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet question Message-ID: In a message dated 8/31/99 8:08:53 AM, js3619 at WIZVAX.NET writes: <<>Of course he paraphrases Rob Tyner by doing the MC5 "I wanna see you see >your hands out there!" thing. I always thought it was "I wanna see a sea of hands out there" both ways have heaps to Tynerness. >> ==================== hmmm.... this one wonders just how much is being made here of what in the second version appears to be no more than an exhortation to the audience, from a guy in a band who nigh-badgered their audience ca. '68-69 in a manner not utterly removed from, say, the "testifying" one might have encountered at a soul revue long before the days of the MC5. the dance from which all dances come "<>" From spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET Tue Aug 31 16:10:31 1999 From: spiegel at INTPLSRV.NET (Stephan Spiegel) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:10:31 -0500 Subject: HW: Discography info Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: Alex S. Garcia To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 2:38 PM Subject: Re: HW: Discography info >>Where's Hawkman Music? Where's Hawkman Music???? >>Hello? McFly? ....... :)))) > >*smile* Well, hey, I'm more on the BOC-side of the list, actually No problem! :))) Just gives me another chance for a "free ad" on the list, without looking aggressive. www.intplsrv.net/hawkman Just got in more Metal Shield's... Serial No. 31,33,35 & 68 For those who are looking for low numbers. Thanks, Stephan From kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Wed Aug 18 17:03:25 1999 From: kaduflyer at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (Christopher Bruce) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 16:03:25 -0500 Subject: OFF: Orion Space Rock Fest/A. Planetscapes Message-ID: What a hoot! It is truly amazing how rumors and misinformation get generated on the net! A. P. has not, is not, and will not disband. These guys practice at least twice a week! And there have been more members of AP than of Hawkwind! I have just spoken with Fran Walker, and aside from Matt leaving to go back to school, A.P. goes on as ever, and "sunrise Symphony" is nothing of their design... The grapevine has been hitting a little of the grape, it seems! I would be among the first, as his former Hawkwind crew manager and very good friend, to know if the best American Spacerock/jazz ensemble ever decided to call it quits. There is too much invested in the A.P. "brand name" to throw it away as suggested. Doug Walker needs a little better press management, apparently; but the band lives on as long as its leader, and despite some health problems that have cropped up now & then Doug is strong and has as much stamina as ever. He'll get a laugh out of this one, but any press is good press, as they say. I'm glad its 100% wrong, though! Doug jammed with more bands than Nik Turner did at SD 99... I've been putting in 14 hour days for the past two months and haven't kept up on the boc-l as I used to, but this HAS to be the farthest-out thing I have read here in a very long time! Chris Bruce Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > > In a message dated 9/15/99 11:42:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > henderson.120 at OSU.EDU writes: > > << The amazing thing is that I believe that the act that has ceased to exist > is > none other than Alien Planetscapes. I've heard through the grapevine that > Doug has his efforts focussed on another project called 'Sunrise Symphony' > instead. Amazing news, and rather unfortunate, though I imagine SS will be > a winner as well. I can only hope that Victims of the Blacklist is still > released some time in the near future. Until then, we'll just hafta enjoy > 'Prince Chubbs' from the Mother West space-rock comp. 'Turn Century Turn' > (see www.motherwest.com). > >> > > ----Wasn't it Cleo's "Space Box" which said under AP's entry that they were > working on a project which would be the first "space rock orchestra" or > something? Maybe this has to do w/this Sunrise Symphony? Chuck