From martynl at FUJITSU.COM.AU Thu Oct 1 10:16:52 1998 From: martynl at FUJITSU.COM.AU (Martyn Lawrence) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:16:52 EST Subject: HW: Tim Blake - opinions please In-Reply-To: <199809302233.SAA13049@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu>; from "Keith Henderson" at Sep 30, 98 06:33:15 pm Message-ID: Do yourself a favour and buy New Jerusalem & Crystal Machine,magick is very different for the other two,and is fairly boring,although a couple of tracks were very good live.. New Jerusalem is one of my alltime favourite songs,and it was a delight to see him perform this,Lighthouse and Nati(from magick)when he was with hawkwind. Its a shame he left the band during the 1980 tour,there was an article about hismusical career in Hawkfan 6,and I have to agree he was a bit popstarish. As for what he's upto now is a mystery,but he lives in france I believe. He guested with hawkwind around '95 and played some solo shows in the uk and usa,then joined gong for the birthday reunion gigs. Why he isn't still playing with gong,is a bit strange especially since on the cd for the gong birthday gigs ,he says something like it was great to play with gong again. There are a couple of video's around and FOFP has them,so he might add a few comments here. regards Marty From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Oct 1 00:23:37 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:23:37 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dancing Across the Water In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 30 Sep 1998, BREVARD, Adrian R. wrote: => >obCD-R: Gov't Mule, _Dancing Across the Water_ => => > Eh? Was ist? => => I'd imagine this is a boot tape that Paul recently converted to CD-R => format or perhaps a compilation he put together for himself. Along the right lines. I think I mentioned this CD-R on here before. It is one made by someone on the Gov't Mule list (and so I can't claim credit for it, alas:), and consists of several cover tunes the Mule have done live during the Spring of 98. The centrepiece is a great version of Neill Young's "Cortez the Killer" (from whence is derived the title). The sound quality is great, and the mastering is excellent (with seamless cross-fades between tracks, and banter placed in the pre-gap, etc.). (Ironically, this makes the disc harder to duplicate; I almost managed to do so with CDRWin, but the damn thing bombed out near the end of the burn with a "SCSI bus reset detected" error which left me with a coaster. Anyone managed to get the CDRWin demo to work under NT 4.0???) Of course, this is not a boot, since the Mule sanction taping, and I didn't buy it (I got it for B&P), so it's all entirely legit and above board. Great value, I'd say! I'm looking forward to my Mule Trane #10 DATs soon... :-) Cheers, Paul. NP: The Bevis Frond, _Superseeder_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Oct 1 04:26:45 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:26:45 +0100 Subject: HW: Astral Mind Games / Astrology Box Set In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19981001010928.02ea4020@pop.eunet.no> Message-ID: I think you probably mean the *Anthology* box set... can't recall just which multiply-recycled tracks are on there but it'll be in the codex... - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK Thu Oct 1 04:48:00 1998 From: edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:48:00 +0100 Subject: Tim Blake - opinions Message-ID: From: Mark Edmonds Date: 1998-10-01 09:48 >Full Message Title: Tim Blake - opinions please >I've just got my dealer update and there's three Tim Blake albums back on - >Blake's New Jerusalem, Crystal Machine and Magick. >Now I've never heard anything from any of these. Should I spend some hard >earned pennies? >Opinions please. >Z >NP UFO - Come Away Melinda >ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER I have Crystal Machine and Blake's New Jerusalem on vinyl (EGG Records if I remember correctly). They are OK but nothing special. To be honest, the only interest I find in them now is to hear what Tim Blake was doing round about the time he joined HW. My main gripe is Tim's pre-pubescent singing style but he does do some nice sequencing and the guitar track "Song for a New Age" is quite good. Recently, I saw that these albums are now on CD but only one album per CD which is a bit of a rip-off as both could easily fit on the one disc. Someone on this list commented on Magick a few weeks back with the view that it wasn't too much cop but don't take my word on it. Mark From edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK Thu Oct 1 04:59:00 1998 From: edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:59:00 +0100 Subject: Tim Blake - opinions Message-ID: From: Mark Edmonds Date: 1998-10-01 09:59 >Interesting. I have to admit that I preferred his solo albums over >the performance of Lighthouse on Live 79 - which was disappointing on >the recording. I understand that he was terrific to hear on stage >but I never managed to catch a live show. I think that New Jerusalem >was also performed on that tour? But for some reason that track wasn't >used on the Live album. >jill Yup, I'm pretty sure I have a tape from the '79 tour with New Jerusalem on it. Mark From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Thu Oct 1 05:22:56 1998 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 11:22:56 +0200 Subject: SV: OFF: Help with Scandinavian space/psych Message-ID: Hi there! I?ve supplied some details below. >Hej Folks... > >As I said earlier, I'd be coming to you for help on starting my efforts >towards a Scandinavian space/psych/electronic/ambient artist map. > >So, mainly what I need is geographical assistance (like, where are they all >from?), but would of course accept suggestions for other artists to consider. > >Right now, my list is... > >Akasha (????, Norway) >Algarnas Tradgard (Goteborg???, Sweden) >Circle (Pori, Finland) >Dark Sun (Helsinki, Finland) >darXtar (Korsberga, Sweden) >Holy River Family Band (???, Sweden) >Jukon Speakers (Skelleftea, Sweden) >Kingston Wall (Helsinki, Finland) >Landberk (Stockholm???, Sweden) >The Moor (Falkoping, Sweden) >Optical Blue (???, Sweden) >Pseudo Sun (Jarfalla, Sweden) >Simon Says (Falkoping???, Sweden) >The Spacious Mind (Lovanger, Sweden) >The Word of Life (???, Sweden) > >Any more?? Doesn't Norge have any recent space/psych groups?? > >Here are some other artists that I'm familiar with (their names at least, >not necessarily the music), but my feeling is that they're mostly 'too prog' >to be included. Feel free to disagree....my perception of those I don't >know firsthand may be wrong. > >Anglagard >Anekdoten >5:15 >Flower Kings >Bo Hansson >Jonas Hellborg >Hoyry Kone >Bob Hund >Isuldur's Bane >Kaipa >T. Kriget >Par Lindh >SMM >White Willow > >Tack sa mycket...Kjell > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Oct 1 16:16:35 1998 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:16:35 -0400 Subject: OFF: Jonkoping photos?? Message-ID: Hi Folks... We're looking for someone who took photos at the Jonkoping Festival last month. Does anyone here have some that they could scan (B&W fine) and send to Jerry Kranitz for the upcoming issue of Aural Innovations? I think Scott H. wrote the review of that show, and Jerry would like a photo or two to put in there alongside. Thanks...Keith H. (FAA) Either... jkranitz at infinet.com henderson.120 at osu.edu From sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK Thu Oct 1 16:01:04 1998 From: sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 21:01:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: Help Message-ID: Can any kind soul help. I`ve just picked up a CD copy of Jethro Tull`s A Little Light Music from the local library for ?2. But there are no covers (hence the price). I managed to find a front cover pic which I think will be usable but is there anyone out there who has this CD and a scanner that could do me a scan of the back cover. Anything over 300dpi should print fine on my printer. Any help would be appriciated Si ----- "I`ve got 'some' answers to 'most' of your questions!" The Alice Cooper Trivia File - http://village.vossnet.co.uk/s/sihalley/intro.html My Tubes Page - http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/7998/ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Oct 1 16:12:28 1998 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:12:28 -0400 Subject: SV: OFF: Help with Scandinavian space/psych Message-ID: Hej again... With some help from others (thanks!), I'm moving forward on this collection of artists/locations. I've searched for more names that would apply (?) to my 'definition' of space/psych/electronic/ambient music. I've also found lots of folk, pop, prog, jazz, etc. music I haven't included. Right now, my updated list is... >>Akasha (????, Norway) >>Algarnas Tradgard (Goteborg???, Sweden) >>Burnin' Red Ivanhoe (???, Denmark) >>Circle (Pori, Finland) >>Coo (Pantere, Finland) >>Crescent Venus (Ystad, Sweden) >>Dark Sun (Helsinki, Finland) >>darXtar (Korsberga, Sweden) >>Day of the Phoenix (???, Denmark) >>Holy River Family Band (???, Sweden) >>In the Labyrinth (???, Sweden) >>Jukon Speakers (Skelleftea, Sweden) >>Kingston Wall (Helsinki, Finland) >>Komeda (???(north), Sweden) >>Landberk (Stockholm???, Sweden) >>LethisaloFamily (Pori, Finland) >>Lotus (???, Finland) >>The Moor (Falkoping, Sweden) >>Optical Blue (???, Sweden) >>Pseudo Sun (Jarfalla, Sweden) >>Ruphus (???, Norway) >>Simon Says (Falkoping???, Sweden) >>The Spacious Mind (Lovanger, Sweden) >>Tangle Edge (???, Norway) >>The Word of Life (???, Sweden) Any comments on these (or other) additions/subtractions to be made?? Like Landberk 'too prog'? Who knows about 5:15?? Are they a prog band or do they have space/psych tedencies?? And has anyone heard the 1970 album by 'Tree, Grass, and Stones'? Cranium has it on their site and it sounded interesting. Keith H. (FAA) ObTapReference: I also read about a 60's Swedish group (still going?) called the Spotnicks. It appears that their guitarist once tuned his guitar broadcasting unit to the same frequency as the local police channel, such that the police all heard his guitar on their speakers. Wonder if Chris Guest heard this tale and pinched it for the infamous scene at the Air Force base. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Oct 1 14:53:13 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:53:13 -0400 Subject: OFF: DCC Compact Classics Message-ID: Recently, I mentioned the DCC remaster of _Aqualung_, and someone (Carl?) asked about how to get DCC titles. Well, I enquired with the chap that turned me on to DCC, and he responded with some info, which I've included below. I also did a bit of WWW searching myself, and found one online company that seems to sell DCC titles cheaper than going to DCC directly, so you might want to check that out, too. The company is Audiophile International, USA, and the URL is http://www.audiophileusa.com/DCC.HTM For those that want to start the write-in campaign for the first three BOC albums (which kicked off this thread, and which brings things nicely back on topic:), point yer browsers to, and get scribblin' at http://www.DCCcompact.com/feedback.html ;-) Cheers, Paul. NP: Jimi Hendrix Experience, _BBC Sessions_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 10:19:56 -0700 From: Wyle E Coyote [...] Hi everybody! Much to my delight, DCC released 2 more titles this month. ORIGINAL MASTERS -Jethro Tull & VAN HALEN I Many of you (such as Paul) have asked me about DCC ordering info, website url etc. When I said they didn't have a website, I was going on old information. Everyone into "audiophile-quality" recordings & masters, agrees that DCC puts the "HI" back in "Hi~fi". If you *love good sound* (who doesn't?) & like Tull, Cream, CCR, Deep Purple, the Doors, Eagles, McCartney, Miller (Steve, not Glen), Elvis, Badfinger, Beach Boys, Miles, Coltrane, Montgomery, Rollins (Sonny, not Henry), Evans, Smith, Peterson etc. ...then these re-issues qualify as "must have"! Big, full, rich analog warmth on the cold-gold digital format! 8-) (they also do 180+gram virgin vinyl releases) look `em up; It'll be worth your time, -kenny here's the internet addy: http://www.DCCcompact.com/ also land addy: DCC Compact Classics 9301 Jordan Ave -Ste#105 Chatsworth CA 91311 Phone #: (800) 301-MUSI(c) 800- 301 - 6874 (818) 993 - 8822 (fax) 993 - 0605 (ask for Brigitte) Interview w/DCC VP (in charge of Engineering) Steve Hoffman: (plus reviews, etc) http://www.vintagerock.com/hoffman.html http://www.vintagerock.com/ken2.html http://www.vintagerock.com/gmule.html From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Oct 1 13:08:39 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:08:39 +0100 Subject: Thanks for Tim Blake - opinions please In-Reply-To: <3612A621.A160AEDD@virgin.net> Message-ID: Well I've hummed and hawed and will try out New Jerusalem. The catalogue numbers for ordering are; New Jerusalem - MANTRA068 Crystal Machine - MANTRA067 Magick - MANTRA069 The list price is ?12.49 so if anyone tries to charge more than that, I'll order them for you. Thanks for all help. Z NP - Rory Gallagher - Irish Tour At 22:44 30/09/1998 +0100, you wrote: >I have both NJ and CM and can recommend both of them. They tend more toward >the "octave Doctors" type material Blake did with Gong than the out and out >Hawk stuff, but then he was always more ethereal than Simon House. IMO, CM >is the easier listen, but both are pretty good 3am albums. I can't comment on >Magick, I've never heard of it. In fact, which CD supplier is it from, I'll >probably buy it! > >DaveG > >zeitgeist-scot wrote: > >> I've just got my dealer update and there's three Tim Blake albums back on - >> Blake's New Jerusalem, Crystal Machine and Magick. >> >> Now I've never heard anything from any of these. Should I spend some hard >> earned pennies? >> >> Opinions please. >> >> Z >> NP UFO - Come Away Melinda >> ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER >> http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com >> PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK >> e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com From christmu at EUNET.NO Thu Oct 1 13:28:44 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:28:44 +0100 Subject: OFF: Help with Scandinavian space/psych Message-ID: How about these current Norwegians not on your list: Biosphere (Troms?, ambient space ala Orb) Tangle Edge (Narvik, heavyily spaced out arctic prog!) Motorpsycho (Trondheim, who once were good spacey jam rock, now a pop band) Smell of Incence (???, never heard them, appearantly very krauty spacey jam!) there's also a current "early Kraftwerk/NEU!" style electro-drone band that are quite good , though I forget their name! I'm sure there are more that I have forgotten, and there are many more straight prog type bands I can think of. BTW, Finland is not part of Scandinavia (but Denmark is, so I hafta mention Denmarks' On Trial, a heavy guitar psych band remiscent of Monster Magnet or a very psyched out Masters of Reality (sort of!)) Norway for some reason has little activity/interest in psych/space/prog music, and I don't know why Sweden has been so prolific either----- Christian From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 1 11:11:37 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:11:37 +0100 Subject: Tim Blake - opinions please In-Reply-To: zeitgeist-scot's message of Wed, 30 Sep 1998 19:15:47 +0100 Message-ID: zeitgeist-scot writes: > I've just got my dealer update and there's three Tim Blake albums back on - > Blake's New Jerusalem, Crystal Machine and Magick. > > Now I've never heard anything from any of these. Should I spend some hard > earned pennies? If you like electronic music at all, NJ is a must have. Crystal Machine is a little less accessible but still good. Majick is quite dodgy in places and you might need to be a Blake fan to enjoy it. Tim's problem is that while he really is great on synths when he tries, he just can't sing and he just doesn't seem to realise this. This is largely offset on NJ because he's using vocoders or something. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 1 11:15:33 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:15:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Tim Blake - opinions please In-Reply-To: Doug Pearson's message of Wed, 30 Sep 1998 12:18:20 -0700 Message-ID: Doug Pearson writes: > Crystal Machine is cool if you're into real noodly synth stuff; almost like > Tangerine Dream meets Silver Apples. I never heard Magick, but I wasn't > that thrilled about the show I saw on that tour. Sounded too new-age and > not spacey enough for me. (plus, he was being a jerk to the people who > actually went to the effort of putting on a show in San Jose of all places) Tim's biggest problem it seems is that he really doesn't deal well with people. He was out of Hawkwind in 1979 because of a stupid argument (OK< that's not so unsual for Hawkwind). IMHO he's a guy whose talents have gone largely to waste because of this and I find that very unfortunate. > -Doug FoFP From abrevard at SHL.COM Thu Oct 1 11:05:42 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:05:42 -0700 Subject: OFF: (Sorta) And Now a word from Chocolate City Message-ID: Dubbed Chocalate city by George Clinton, Washington DC is having its 8th annual Taste of DC, International Food and Music Festival. Artist scheduled to appear - Oct 10 -Fuel Gonzalo Rubalcaba Koko Taylor Oct 11 - Kevin McFadden Grace Jones BLUE OYSTER CULT Oct 12 - The Brothers Johnson Paul Howards BOC playing for the brothers? This ought to be good, hehehehehehehehehe Ghost in the Ruins From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 1 11:27:11 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:27:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Tim Blake - opinions please In-Reply-To: Martyn Lawrence's message of Thu, 1 Oct 1998 09:16:52 EST Message-ID: Martyn Lawrence writes: > Do yourself a favour and buy New Jerusalem & Crystal Machine,magick is > very different for the other two,and is fairly boring,although a > couple of tracks were very good live.. New Jerusalem is one of my > alltime favourite songs,and it was a delight to see him perform > this,Lighthouse and Nati(from magick)when he was with hawkwind. Its a > shame he left the band during the 1980 tour,there was an article about > hismusical career in Hawkfan 6,and I have to agree he was a bit > popstarish. > As for what he's upto now is a mystery,but he lives in france I > believe. He guested with hawkwind around '95 and played some solo > shows in the uk and usa,then joined gong for the birthday reunion > gigs. Why he isn't still playing with gong,is a bit strange > especially since on the cd for the gong birthday gigs ,he says > something like it was great to play with gong again. > There are a couple of video's around and FOFP has them,so he might add > a few comments here. Well OK, I'll have to fess up and say I was a huge fan of the title track of New Jerusalem. I played it at least three times a day for a couple of years while I was a student (not bad for a 20 minute track) and quite often while cognitively different. I missed his appearance with Hawkwind at the Brixton Academy in 1990(?) but did catch him at the Brixton Fridge doing Majick the night afterwards. It was great to finally hear him play NJ live, though I heard him play it with Hawkwind in 1979. I do have the Voiceprint video, due to having sent them the money on day one, and pestering them to send me the video for a year. They were slow, and slower still because Tim changed his mind about releasing it. About 50 made it out to those who'd prepaid. It's just Tim wearing his Glitter Suit and playing one of those guitar shaped keyboard things and imagining he could sing. It's overlaid with graphics which were pretty obviously knocked up on a BBC Micro (I'm sure I once had the program which made 'em). I also have a bootleg video which I picked up from someone who recorded the US tour of Majick and another bootleg tape of him in Baltimore. I have a few Blake tapes: Tim Blake --------- Waterfalls in Space C60 7 Live at Orsay 2xC60 9 Home Demos 45 7 Amsterdam 1979/ Leglise St Gervais 1975 C90 6 Oxford Poly 1977 C60 9 Paris Hippodrome [from Gong reunion gig 28/5/77] C90 8 Villejuit, Paris 20/5/78 (90) C90 8 Paris Hippodrome 1977 (60) C60 5 Palace Theatre, Paris 18/2/77 (90) C90 8 Home Demos 1978 45 7 Blake & Agents of Chaos 1989 45 9 Baltimore 1991 110 10 Kennel Club, San Francisco 7/10/92 100 10 Gong 25 Years Concert, London Forum 9/10/94 35 8 What I'd kill for is a tape of him doing New Jerusalem at the Gong reunion gigs. Anyone got such a beast? FoFP From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Oct 1 10:12:08 1998 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:12:08 +0100 Subject: Tim Blake In-Reply-To: <199810010857.EAA21359@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >Subject: Tim Blake - opinions please >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >I've just got my dealer update and there's three Tim Blake albums back on - >Blake's New Jerusalem, Crystal Machine and Magick. > >Now I've never heard anything from any of these. Should I spend some hard >earned pennies? > >Opinions please. > I've had Magick for about 2 years, it gets infrequent play time, I love to chill with the disk in the deck, some of the 'hard' music afficionados (sp) may not like it much, but I find that a pipe generally helps !! My favourite is the last track (who's title evades my mind at this point). If you get a copy for a rewasonablr price give it a spin, and IIRC the sleeve notes indicate that the album was layed down in one go on a winters night in the attic of a house/windmill in France or something to that effect, and then mastered to disk in one go with no additional processing !! Cheers, Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.demon.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Oct 1 10:27:09 1998 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:27:09 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 30 Sep 1998 to 1 Oct 1998 - Special issue In-Reply-To: <199810010857.EAA21359@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >Subject: Re: Tim Blake - opinions please Okay, there's been a lot of comment about 2 of the 3 albums, I haven't actually heard CM or NJ for so long that I can't comment, Magick is very new-age(ish) and I have to agree with one of the comments I noted regarding the vocals, I've heard better is a fair comment, I think I'm goint to have to go and re-purchase NJ and CM, if you want to chill, the disk makes an excellent listen IMHO of course, I remember I picked it up at the same time as I was shopping for stuff similar to Tangerine Dream, I went in a shop and heard it playing, "what's that" says I "summat called Magick by Tim summat" says the owner, hmmmmmm think's I; nips next door to record store and orders it striaght away..... I also picked up a disk by EKO (I believe the artist is Gerald Paetsch), The album is titled Hippogryph and I believe that there is another disk titled Connections by the same artist, anyone care to hint at where I can get a copy, been waiting for my trusty supplier to get it for ages now. Pure Pipe Music is Good for Da Souuuuul. Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.demon.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Oct 1 08:21:32 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:21:32 +0100 Subject: SV: OFF: Help with Scandinavian space/psych In-Reply-To: <002d01bded1e$f702ce80$18cc143e@peace-of-mind> Message-ID: In article <002d01bded1e$f702ce80$18cc143e at peace-of-mind>, Henrik Hallgren writes >Hi there! > >I?ve supplied some details below. > > > >>Hej Folks... >> >>As I said earlier, I'd be coming to you for help on starting my efforts >>towards a Scandinavian space/psych/electronic/ambient artist map. If you ever find anything by the Baby Grandmothers (out of Stockholm '67) give me a shout. They only had one legit released single out to the best of my knowledge but I understand some lives tapes exist. They sound like Blue Cheer/Hendrix. -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Oct 1 09:43:18 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 14:43:18 +0100 Subject: HW : Something for everyone? In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980928110716.0068f578@mail1.wizvax.net> Message-ID: In article <3.0.3.32.19980928110716.0068f578 at mail1.wizvax.net>, Bolts of Ungodly Vision writes >Quicker Hawkwind question: Is Hawkwind punk? In the original 60's sense, before it came to mean specifically post '76 reactionary music. Yes. As punk as early Pretty Things. The 70's punks drew extensivelly from the previous generation epitomised by bands like The Stooges and the MC5. Hawkwind have more in common musically with Iggy than Dave Gilmour. Is Brainstorm a three chord primal thrash or an elaborate artistic edifice? Perhaps more importantly, their attitude has always been ostensively, of the people, and anti-establishment. Their position has hardly mellowed with age. Of course, as you get older, life isn't so black and white, us and them. It becomes easier to capitulate certain principles and put early feelings down to adolescence (or similar) and dismiss ideas previously held as unrealistic but Hawkwind. Never. Copped. Out. and it still takes 5 seconds to decide...... -- Jon From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Oct 1 08:44:08 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:44:08 +0100 Subject: Tim Blake - opinions please Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 1, 1998 1:09 am +0100 "J Strobridge" wrote: > I think that New Jerusalem > was also performed on that tour? But for some reason that track wasn't > used on the Live album. Indeed. "NJ" from that tour is on a Hawkwind bootleg CD ... _Orgasmatron_, I think? -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Thu Oct 1 08:43:36 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:43:36 -0400 Subject: HW: Anubian Lights Message-ID: Quick question about the band Anubian Lights (I think that is the name). I saw a CD of theirs at Newbury Comics in the Hawkwind section. Said something like " . . . made up of former Hawkwind member . . . " Anywho, what do they sound like? Should I pick it up? (kind of a stupid question, I know) From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Thu Oct 1 07:21:11 1998 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (Scott Heller) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:21:11 +0200 Subject: OFF: Scand Psych Message-ID: Hej, I will try to help out now that I am living in this part of the world: Akasha (????, Norway) Algarnas Tradgard (Goteborg???, Sweden) I am pretty sure this is correct. They played a gig not too long ago.. Circle (Pori, Finland) Dark Sun (???, Finland) Helsinki darXtar (Korgsberga, Sweden) Holy River Family Band (???, Sweden) Two from Stockholm, one from Lovanger! Jukon Speakers (???, Sweden) Only know sweden, but maybe Umea Kingston Wall (Helsinki???, Finland) Helsinki Landberk (Malmo???, Sweden) The Moor (Falkoping???, Sweden) Correct Optical Blue (???, Sweden) Pseudo Sun (Jarfalla, Sweden) Outskirts of Stockholm, this town is.. Simon Says (Falkoping???, Sweden) The Spacious Mind (Lovanger???, Sweden) Correct.. The Word of Life (???, Sweden) Sweden Any more?? Doesn't Norge have any recent space/psych groups?? Yes, the Smell of Incense (southern norway), Tangle Edge (Narvik) and there is another, King Midas (60's psych).. Here are some other artists that I'm familiar with (their names at least, not necessarily the music), but my feeling is that they're mostly 'too prog' to be included. Feel free to disagree....my perception of those I don't know firsthand may be wrong. Anglagard Anekdoten (Cool swedish King crimson idols..) 5:15 (great band from Helsinki) Flower Kings Bo Hanssen Jonas Hellborg Hoyry Kone (Finish far out band ) Bob Hund Isuldur's Bane Kaipa T. Kriget Par Lindh SMM White Willow There are three bands that I remember from the (very) dim, dark, distant past (70-73)with Scandinavian connections: Burnin' Red Ivanhoe, Wigwam & Tasavallan Presidentii (sp?). There's the inevitable problem with "classification" & whether they are "prog" or "psych" or "fusion", but BRI (Denmark, I think) are a cert (IMHO), their freak credentials enhanced by having recorded for John Peel's "Dandelion" label. I actually have a copy of their (2nd?) album "W.W.W." (I think that mighht have had a CD re-issue recently). Yes, BRI are from Denmark. They played a gig last Saturday. They have three of the original members still. Wigwam may be too far on the prog/fusion side of the equation, but may be worth checking out - can't remember where they were from, but I'm pretty sure they were mostly Scandinavians with 1 or 2 North Americans in the band. TP were definitely from Finland, and I think were pretty spacy, recorded at least two albums (for RCA, I think) one called "Milky Way Moses" which I nearly bought recently in a second-hand shop in Hull but decided it was on the wrong side of the price/condition equation. Yes, both of these bands are from Finland. Wigwam was more a blues rock thing to start with. TP, I am not that familiar with as I have only heard a couple of songs. We have a great psych band in denmark called On Trial who are like a cross between monster magnet and Roky Erikson They have a limited edition 10 " coming out on Delerium in Novbember and a full CD in Feb. Also, there is a cool band called Mantric Muse, who are a mostly instrumental band influenced by the Ozric Tentacles but have a bit more Prog sound and not as rich a synth sound to them. Great band though.. Scott ObCS- Korai Orom R. Scott Heller PhD Hagedorn Research Institute Niels Steensensvej 6 DK 2820 Gentofte Denmark (45) 44 43 91 96 or 44 3 91 38 Phone (45) 44 43 80 00 Fax shll at hagedorn.dk or heller at hagedorn.dk Http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/stage/7713 From johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM Thu Oct 1 17:52:18 1998 From: johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:52:18 +0200 Subject: Tim Blake - opinions please Message-ID: At 13:44 1998-10-01 +0100, you wrote: >On Thu, Oct 1, 1998 1:09 am +0100 "J Strobridge" >wrote: >> I think that New Jerusalem >> was also performed on that tour? But for some reason that track wasn't >> used on the Live album. > > Indeed. "NJ" from that tour is on a Hawkwind bootleg CD ... >_Orgasmatron_, I think? It's on the _Live - S:t Albans UK Winter Tour 1979_ -joe >-- >Carl Edlund Anderson >Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic >St. John's College, University of Cambridge >mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk >http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ > > From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Oct 1 17:25:29 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 22:25:29 +0100 Subject: OFF: INTERNET BASED RECORD LABEL Message-ID: I've just received a press release that some of you may be interested in; "We are No Type Drones, an Internet-based record label. We release free albums by new artists in MP3 format...Anaesthesia's self-titled effort, a 30-minute ambient gem of epic proportions, would be fit to use as a soundtrack for a sci-fi movie... Oeuf Korreckt's debut EP, "Leonard Nimoy", plays with electronic sounds to turn out tracks that are both joyful and warm, in the vein of blip-sculptors Richard D. James and the Autechre duo. As for Asyncdrone's "Bedroom Videofeed", it has sprung as the result of a particulary productive jam session, a first step in the group's aim to turn sheer noise into a melodic instrument of its own. " http://www.notype.com/drones/ I'm on the road with my mono laptop so haven't checked it out, but it sounds quite intriguing. Z NP Black Widow - Sacrifice ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Oct 1 16:50:06 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:50:06 -0400 Subject: OFF: DCC Compact Classics (fwd) Message-ID: FYI, below is some additional information about getting ahold of DCC titles. Those that consider themselves "audiophiles" should seriously consider checking out DCC's catalogue. Those that can't tell Radio Shack from Linn should probably save their money and give them a miss. ;-) Cheers, Paul. NP: Rush, _Caress of Steel_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 13:15:13 -0700 From: Wyle E Coyote [...] Btw: DCC *prefers* that you go thru a middleman (only hit them up for titles that you *cannot* find elsewhere) Price Club/Costco sell "selected" titles @ $20.00ea & Tower & Virgin stores should carry them as well. From wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Oct 1 18:07:54 1998 From: wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM (wandering-star) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:07:54 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind:-) Message-ID: Any new releases I should know about.. Back online again ;-) Rich(The artist formerly known as Eldritch ;-) From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Thu Oct 1 18:35:41 1998 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (David G) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:35:41 +0100 Subject: OFF: Alchemyst Message-ID: I spent an interesting few minutes this evening sat in the car outside my house listenning to an amazing track on the John Peel show by a band that I think he called Alchemyst (he was certain about the Y). I think either the track or the album was called Seratonin Ronin or something similar. Anyone know anything about these guys? The sound was somewhere between Space Ritual and Monster Magnet. DaveG From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Oct 1 19:08:55 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 00:08:55 +0100 Subject: HW: Anubian Lights In-Reply-To: <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD010E7300@EMSS05M03.ems.lmco.com> Message-ID: It's Turner and his American band. Simon House is on it too. I got it a while back, didn't like it much then went back to it and it was OK. Vaguely new-agey, pleasant without being memorable. Great liner notes though. Should you get it? I dunno. - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From harpo87 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Oct 1 19:22:21 1998 From: harpo87 at HOTMAIL.COM (PER ANDERS JOHANSSON) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:22:21 PDT Subject: OFF: Help with Scandinavian space/psych Message-ID: Whish of the the motorpsycho are spacerock,its a shame i miss it as a collector of scandinavian music,i think they are a ordinary rock band Smell of incence are a real good band,some times real space rock ,mutch more than other Scandinavian bands/HARPO >>From owner-boc-l at listserv.spc.edu Thu Oct 1 15:57:51 1998 >Received: from listserv.spc.edu (listserv at listserv.spc.edu [192.107.46.113]) > by listserv.spc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.8/SPC-2.2-NORELAY) with ESMTP id RAA22287; > Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:34:46 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from LISTSERV.SPC.EDU by LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release > 1.8b) with spool id 19630 for BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 > 17:34:45 -0400 >Received: from mailgate.spc.edu (root at mailgate.spc.edu [192.107.46.158]) by > listserv.spc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.8/SPC-2.2-NORELAY) with ESMTP id RAA22119 > for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:33:22 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from login-2.eunet.no (0 at login-2.eunet.no [193.71.71.239]) by > mailgate.spc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/SPC-3.0-NORELAY) with ESMTP id MAA22857 > for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:36:10 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from netsurfer.online.no (port55.oslo-pm3-2.eunet.no > [193.71.123.183]) by login-2.eunet.no (8.9.0/8.9.0/GN) with SMTP id > SAA02865 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:36:04 +0200 > (CEST) >X-Sender: christmu at pop.eunet.no >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by listserv.spc.edu id > RAA22122 >Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19981001182844.02e8e510 at pop.eunet.no> >Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 18:28:44 +0100 >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >Sender: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >From: christmu at EUNET.NO >Subject: OFF: Help with Scandinavian space/psych >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by listserv.spc.edu id RAA22287 > >How about these current Norwegians not on your list: > >Biosphere (Troms=F8, ambient space ala Orb) >Tangle Edge (Narvik, heavyily spaced out arctic prog!) >Motorpsycho (Trondheim, who once were good spacey jam rock, now a pop ban= >d) >Smell of Incence (???, never heard them, appearantly very krauty spacey j= >am!) > >there's also a current "early Kraftwerk/NEU!" style electro-drone band th= >at >are quite good , though I forget their name! I'm sure there are more that= > I >have forgotten, and there are many more straight prog type bands I can >think of. BTW, Finland is not part of Scandinavia (but Denmark is, so I >hafta mention Denmarks' On Trial, a heavy guitar psych band remiscent of >Monster Magnet or a very psyched out Masters of Reality (sort of!)) > >Norway for some reason has little activity/interest in psych/space/prog >music, and I don't know why Sweden has been so prolific either----- > >Christian > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From harpo87 at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Oct 1 19:35:36 1998 From: harpo87 at HOTMAIL.COM (PER ANDERS JOHANSSON) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:35:36 PDT Subject: SV: OFF: Help with Scandinavian space/psych Message-ID: Its must be very hard to do a space rock list. norwegian RUPHUS are more a heavy band (at last there first lp). If you named spacious mind you must name the spin of ban HOLY FAMILY BAND they are maybe even better, WORLD OF LIFE are a ST MICHAEL,ADAM,STEFAN band on the xotic mind label,and if that fall in the category i think you should look at the other on the label. You do a good work on this and that are fi?n to read,if you need any information about how mutch lp these group on the list have give out,tell. And i going to give you a small band history of the Swedish band TR?D&GR?S OCH STENAR soon if you want it.but the group are more trance? psych better on your list are groups like ?LGARNAS TR?DG?RD/HARPO >>From owner-boc-l at listserv.spc.edu Thu Oct 1 15:58:29 1998 >Received: from listserv.spc.edu (listserv at listserv.spc.edu [192.107.46.113]) > by listserv.spc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.8/SPC-2.2-NORELAY) with ESMTP id RAA22240; > Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:34:24 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from LISTSERV.SPC.EDU by LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release > 1.8b) with spool id 19586 for BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 > 17:34:24 -0400 >Received: from mailgate.spc.edu (root at mailgate.spc.edu [192.107.46.158]) by > listserv.spc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.8/SPC-2.2-NORELAY) with ESMTP id RAA22059 > for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 17:33:13 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu (root at mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu > [128.146.214.32]) by mailgate.spc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/SPC-3.0-NORELAY) > with ESMTP id QAA24536 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 > 16:12:31 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from wet2 (wet2.mps.ohio-state.edu [128.146.132.134]) by > mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA29246 for > ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:12:28 -0400 (EDT) >X-Sender: khenders at pop.service.ohio-state.edu >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Message-ID: <199810012012.QAA29246 at mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> >Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:12:28 -0400 >Reply-To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >Sender: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >From: Keith Henderson >Subject: SV: OFF: Help with Scandinavian space/psych >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > >Hej again... > >With some help from others (thanks!), I'm moving forward on this collection >of artists/locations. I've searched for more names that would apply (?) to >my 'definition' of space/psych/electronic/ambient music. I've also found >lots of folk, pop, prog, jazz, etc. music I haven't included. > >Right now, my updated list is... > >>>Akasha (????, Norway) >>>Algarnas Tradgard (Goteborg???, Sweden) >>>Burnin' Red Ivanhoe (???, Denmark) >>>Circle (Pori, Finland) >>>Coo (Pantere, Finland) >>>Crescent Venus (Ystad, Sweden) >>>Dark Sun (Helsinki, Finland) >>>darXtar (Korsberga, Sweden) >>>Day of the Phoenix (???, Denmark) >>>Holy River Family Band (???, Sweden) >>>In the Labyrinth (???, Sweden) >>>Jukon Speakers (Skelleftea, Sweden) >>>Kingston Wall (Helsinki, Finland) >>>Komeda (???(north), Sweden) >>>Landberk (Stockholm???, Sweden) >>>LethisaloFamily (Pori, Finland) >>>Lotus (???, Finland) >>>The Moor (Falkoping, Sweden) >>>Optical Blue (???, Sweden) >>>Pseudo Sun (Jarfalla, Sweden) >>>Ruphus (???, Norway) >>>Simon Says (Falkoping???, Sweden) >>>The Spacious Mind (Lovanger, Sweden) >>>Tangle Edge (???, Norway) >>>The Word of Life (???, Sweden) > >Any comments on these (or other) additions/subtractions to be made?? Like >Landberk 'too prog'? > >Who knows about 5:15?? Are they a prog band or do they have space/psych >tedencies?? And has anyone heard the 1970 album by 'Tree, Grass, and >Stones'? Cranium has it on their site and it sounded interesting. > >Keith H. (FAA) > >ObTapReference: I also read about a 60's Swedish group (still going?) >called the Spotnicks. It appears that their guitarist once tuned his guitar >broadcasting unit to the same frequency as the local police channel, such >that the police all heard his guitar on their speakers. Wonder if Chris >Guest heard this tale and pinched it for the infamous scene at the Air Force >base. > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Fri Oct 2 03:07:19 1998 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff and Pam Wheaton) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 01:07:19 -0600 Subject: OFF: Alchemyst Message-ID: David G wrote: > Anyone know anything about these guys? The sound was > somewhere between Space Ritual and Monster Magnet. Hmmm. no info here, but I think my wallet is cringing again-sounds interesting:)Pam -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton ____/----^----\____ The greatest tool I think it is worth getting....it's not Hawkwind, but then again, they aren't trying to be...maybe not one of my top 5 playlist CD's for now, but is a good listen every now and then....it's definitely different than anything else you may have heard...., and the production job is good...sounds OK at 3:00 in the morning if you are in the right frame of mind.... Hall, Russell J wrote: > Quick question about the band Anubian Lights (I think that is the name). > > I saw a CD of theirs at Newbury Comics in the Hawkwind section. Said > something like " . . . made up of former Hawkwind member . . . " > > Anywho, what do they sound like? Should I pick it up? (kind of a stupid > question, I know) > From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Fri Oct 2 00:21:29 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 04:21:29 +0000 Subject: OFF: (Sorta) And Now a word from Chocolate City Message-ID: > Artist scheduled to appear - > > Oct 10 -Fuel > Gonzalo Rubalcaba > Koko Taylor > > Oct 11 - Kevin McFadden > Grace Jones > BLUE OYSTER CULT > > Oct 12 - > The Brothers Johnson > Paul Howards All in all this is one bizarre mix of artists. I notice BOC are playing the same day as Grace Jones. They better watch out...she's as wild as ever. Last month, she got pulled off the stage during a concert at Disney World for baring her breasts! -- Nick From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Oct 2 05:25:20 1998 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Rich Lockwood) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 10:25:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: (Sorta) And Now a word from Chocolate City Message-ID: > Artist scheduled to appear - > > > > Oct 10 -Fuel > > Gonzalo Rubalcaba > > Koko Taylor > > > > Oct 11 - Kevin McFadden > > Grace Jones > > BLUE OYSTER CULT > > > > Oct 12 - > > The Brothers Johnson > > Paul Howards > > All in all this is one bizarre mix of artists. I notice BOC are > playing the same day as Grace Jones. They better watch out...she's as > wild as ever. Last month, she got pulled off the stage during a > concert at Disney World for baring her breasts! > > -- Nick Eek - call the outrageous police. Breast baring?! GG Allin would have packed it all in if he'd heard. (And if he wasn't dead.):-) Cheers, Rich. A Storyteller's night http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6717/mag.html From Stephen.Barstow at OCEANOR.NO Fri Oct 2 05:53:34 1998 From: Stephen.Barstow at OCEANOR.NO (Stephen Barstow) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:53:34 +0200 Subject: Jonkoping photos?? Message-ID: You can try Peter Brandholm (pb at kumla.se) and Soren Lundgren (lundgren.soren at ebox.tninet.se) - Peter's pictures of the Man Band at Jonkoping are posted on the Man Band site: (http://www.ringsoft.demon.co.uk/man/index.htm) Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Henderson [SMTP:henderson.120 at OSU.EDU] > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 1998 10:17 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: OFF: Jonkoping photos?? > > Hi Folks... > > We're looking for someone who took photos at the Jonkoping Festival > last > month. Does anyone here have some that they could scan (B&W fine) and > send > to Jerry Kranitz for the upcoming issue of Aural Innovations? I think > Scott > H. wrote the review of that show, and Jerry would like a photo or two > to put > in there alongside. > > Thanks...Keith H. (FAA) > > Either... > jkranitz at infinet.com > henderson.120 at osu.edu From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Oct 2 07:10:30 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:10:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: Jonkoping photos?? Message-ID: > We're looking for someone who took photos at the Jonkoping Festival last > month. Does anyone here have some that they could scan (B&W fine) and send > to Jerry Kranitz for the upcoming issue of Aural Innovations? I think Scott > H. wrote the review of that show, and Jerry would like a photo or two to put > in there alongside. I have numerous photos, a few of which of which came out quite well. I can scan them black&white, but no more than 256 colours (computer technology at my college is pretty ancient!). Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Oct 2 07:13:25 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:13:25 +0100 Subject: SV: OFF: Help with Scandinavian space/psych Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 1, 1998 4:12 pm -0400 "Keith Henderson" wrote: > Any comments on these (or other) additions/subtractions to be made?? There are some missing diacritics in the placenames--that probably doesn't seem like a big deal to English-speakers (and I imagine Scandinavians are used to it), but a, ?, and ? are three completely different letters :) I can do up corrections, though a Scandinavian would catch them more accurately than I ... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Oct 2 07:19:33 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:19:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Anubian Lights Message-ID: I'm not a big electronic/ambient fan, but I quite like this album--rather more than the Nik/Pressurehed collaborations. It tries to have some kind of weird plot line, which is always fun :) When I'm looking for something quiet and spacey and "mystic", I through it on. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Fri Oct 2 08:15:54 1998 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:15:54 +0200 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?HW:_New_Bob_Calvert_CD=B4s.?= Message-ID: Hi there! This morning I got two new CD?s from a friend. They?re " An evening with the action man" and "The Hawk connection". The first is a live-CD with tracks from two shows, 6/11-86 and 31/1-87 and the second is filled with demos and rare tracks by Bob Calvert and Michael Moorcock. Total playing time is about 70 minutes on each CD. Tracklisting on the Live: Ned Ludd, Acid rain, Work song, Re-wind, Ship of fools, Damnation alley, All the machines are quiet, Orgone accumulator, Evil rock, Lord of the hornets, Catch a falling starfighter/Gremlin/Aerospace age inferno, Quark strangeness and charm, Radio Egypt, Working in a diamond mine, Days of the underground. A total of15 tracks. Tracklisting on the demo: The greenfly and the rose, Lord of the hornets, Revenge, Fascism-futurism, Bugatti, Isadora, Messenger & Morpheus/Solstice, Stranger in a strange land, Steppenwolf, Another quiet day in Auschwitz, Starcruiser, Dodgem dude, Brothel in Rosenstrasse 1992, Good girl - bad girl, Time centre, My new life, Peter the vulture, Intro mental, Harlequin. A total of 19 tracks. These two CD?s are in my opinion among the best in my collection since it?s great live-recordings and rare tracks by especially the best rock-poet ever, Bob Calvert. Listen to Steppenwolf, Stranger..., messenger... and Solstice and you will know why! The live-CD contains awesome versions of his own solo-tracks and the Hawkwind-tracks are absolutely faboulus. The action man in a very good mood. Accordning to the source they will be made in 25 copies each and the price is ? 10 / $ 15 including P&P. All the best Henrik From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Oct 2 08:53:26 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:53:26 +0100 Subject: OFF: Alchemyst Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 1, 1998 11:35 pm +0100 "David G" wrote: > I spent an interesting few minutes this evening sat in the car outside > my house listenning to an amazing track on the John Peel show by a band > that I think he called Alchemyst (he was certain about the Y). I think > either the track or the album was called Seratonin Ronin or something > similar. Anyone know anything about these guys? The sound was > somewhere between Space Ritual and Monster Magnet. That sounds promising :) Have no info, but want some! -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Fri Oct 2 09:02:07 1998 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (Scott Heller) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 15:02:07 +0200 Subject: OFF:Alchemyst Message-ID: Hej, These guys are a great acid rock three piece. I saw them at the Terrastock I and they really burned it up. They have two CD's out. The newest one is suppose to be really great. Really nice guys as well. Good friends of Nick Saloman and Phil McMullen of the Ptolamaic Terrascope. scott ObMD- Deep Pupple- K?benhavn 10/1/98 R. Scott Heller PhD Hagedorn Research Institute Niels Steensensvej 6 DK 2820 Gentofte Denmark (45) 44 43 91 96 or 44 3 91 38 Phone (45) 44 43 80 00 Fax shll at hagedorn.dk or heller at hagedorn.dk Http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/stage/7713 From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Fri Oct 2 02:12:45 1998 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:12:45 +0200 Subject: OFF: test, please ignore Message-ID: test, test, test From hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU Fri Oct 2 09:36:34 1998 From: hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU (hijinks at UTARLG.UTA.EDU) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 08:36:34 -0500 Subject: HW: Anubian Lights In-Reply-To: <84503.3116319573@mac014.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: I really like the *Jackal and Nine ep* by Anubian Lights. The music is very ambient spacy, though with beats throughout. "Soul Herder" in particular is stunning, and better than the other version of it on Nik Turner's *Past or Future* CD. This CD is perfect for late night/early morning, and even better for writing to. Does anyone know if there are other Anubian Lights CDs out, or if more are being planned? I know they have one track on the *Area 51* compilation (which is also very good, IMHO). --thomas rickert On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, Carl E. Anderson wrote: > I'm not a big electronic/ambient fan, but I quite like this > album--rather more than the Nik/Pressurehed collaborations. It > tries to have some kind of weird plot line, which is always fun :) > > When I'm looking for something quiet and spacey and "mystic", > I through it on. > > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic > St. John's College, University of Cambridge > mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk > http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ > From abrevard at SHL.COM Fri Oct 2 10:22:51 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 09:22:51 -0500 Subject: OFF: (Sorta) And Now a word from Chocolate City Message-ID: Oct 11 - Kevin McFadden > Grace Jones > BLUE OYSTER CULT > > Oct 12 - > The Brothers Johnson > Paul Howards >All in all this is one bizarre mix of artists. I notice BOC are playing the same day as Grace Jones. They better watch out...she's as wild as ever. Last month, she got pulled off the stage during a concert at Disney World for baring her breasts! -- Nick Ya, too strange to be anything other than intentional. Guess they are going for the most diverse crowd possible. If I'm BOC I take advatange of this, maybe re-mix some tunes. No better chance to go "crossover" than playing before the brothers. Just don't let Puffy Combs jump on stage during ETI. Ghost in the Ruins From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Oct 2 11:05:29 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:05:29 +0100 Subject: Tim Blake - opinions please In-Reply-To: Johan Edlundh's message of Thu, 1 Oct 1998 23:52:18 +0200 Message-ID: Johan Edlundh writes: > >> I think that New Jerusalem > >> was also performed on that tour? But for some reason that track wasn't > >> used on the Live album. > > > > Indeed. "NJ" from that tour is on a Hawkwind bootleg CD ... > >_Orgasmatron_, I think? > > > It's on the _Live - S:t Albans UK Winter Tour 1979_ > -joe The three Tim Blake tracks played on the 1979 tour were: Lighthouse Blake's New Jerusalem Waiting For Nati FoFP From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri Oct 2 11:12:32 1998 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 23:12:32 +0800 Subject: Help In-Reply-To: <01bded76$38b742a0$ac5abcc3@pc> Message-ID: Hi there > Can any kind soul help. I`ve just picked up a CD copy of Jethro Tull`s A > Little Light Music from the local library for ?2. But there are no covers > (hence the price). I managed to find a front cover pic which I > think will be > usable but is there anyone out there who has this CD and a scanner that > could do me a scan of the back cover. Anything over 300dpi should > print fine > on my printer. > You could try browsing some sites on the web dedicated to Jethro Tull. I've found many excellent covers of albums by other artists doing this, on many occasions of a quality far exceeding what my humble scanner can achieve. William From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri Oct 2 11:19:41 1998 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 23:19:41 +0800 Subject: HW: Anubian Lights In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi there Does anyone know if there are other Anubian Lights CDs out, or if more are > being planned? I know they have one track on the *Area 51* compilation > (which is also very good, IMHO). > There was mention on here recently of a new one being out. Someone else with the actual album should be able to give us more info. I'm hoping to get it soon, except the exchange rate between Australia and the rest of the world is really bad right now. The price of imported CD's have almost doubled!!! William From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Fri Oct 2 11:44:40 1998 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:44:40 +0200 Subject: OFF: Jonkoping photos?? Message-ID: Hi Keith! I can send some photos (scanned) via e-mail this weekend. I promised Jerry this a long time ago and I?ve finally got my photos. How many? I should think that 6 or 8 photos will do or...? Cheers Peace of mind records / Henrik ========================================================== Peace of Mind Records c/o Henrik Hallgren, Stapelv?gen 5, 856 34 Sundsvall, Sweden Email: pom at sundsvall.mail.telia.com Peace of mind records website: http://hem.passagen.se/hawkwind/ Fax +46 (0)70 6101310 / Phone +46 (0)70 6743729 -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr?n: Keith Henderson Till: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Datum: den 1 oktober 1998 23:37 ?mne: OFF: Jonkoping photos?? >Hi Folks... > >We're looking for someone who took photos at the Jonkoping Festival last >month. Does anyone here have some that they could scan (B&W fine) and send >to Jerry Kranitz for the upcoming issue of Aural Innovations? I think Scott >H. wrote the review of that show, and Jerry would like a photo or two to put >in there alongside. > >Thanks...Keith H. (FAA) > >Either... >jkranitz at infinet.com >henderson.120 at osu.edu > From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Fri Oct 2 07:50:32 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:50:32 +0000 Subject: OFF: (Sorta) And Now a word from Chocolate City Message-ID: > Eek - call the outrageous police. Breast baring?! GG Allin would have > packed it all in if he'd heard. (And if he wasn't dead.):-) > > Cheers, > > Rich. Man, he was one sick fucker, wasn't he? Guy makes Marilyn Manson and all his TV posturing look like Mr. Rogers!What was the real deal with GG Allin anyway? I only sort of knew of him through a punk friend of mine, but from what little I heard, he seemed to be seriously messed. I saw a home video the other day about him...had all kinds of clips and interviews and stuff. I was almost tempted to buy it just to find out more about him. -- Nick From edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK Fri Oct 2 08:38:00 1998 From: edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:38:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Vinyl Message-ID: From: Mark Edmonds Date: 1998-10-02 13:38 > From: Mark Edmonds > Date: 1998-09-28 15:24 > > > Quick trivia question which came to mind after listening to the old LPs: > > Which Hawkwind track features repeated use of castanets? > > >Mirror of Illusion? > > >FoFP > >The Wizard Blew His Wotsit? There are a lot of odd noises in that I >think? > >jill Just to put the world and his wife (pop. 3) out of their misery here, I think there are castanets in Jack of Shadows. Mark From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri Oct 2 12:32:10 1998 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:32:10 +0800 Subject: HW: Vinyl In-Reply-To: <1303@ems.rail.co.uk> Message-ID: > Just to put the world and his wife (pop. 3) out of their misery here, I > think there are castanets in Jack of Shadows. > > Mark > It could be Only the Dead Dreams of the Cold War Kid? Haven't listened to it lately, but I seem to remember something like that in the background. Or maybe even The Aubergine That Ate Rangoon? William From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Oct 2 12:50:37 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:50:37 +0100 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_HW:_New_Bob_Calvert_CD=B4s.?= In-Reply-To: <000601bdedfe$cc29a7c0$c0cc143e@peace-of-mind> Message-ID: Hi Henrik, Please, please tell me that you have some of these left! Hoping, cash in hand. Stuart At 14:15 02/10/1998 +0200, you wrote: >Hi there! > >This morning I got two new CD?s from a friend. They?re " An evening with the action man" and "The Hawk connection". > >The first is a live-CD with tracks from two shows, 6/11-86 and 31/1-87 and the second is filled with demos and rare tracks by Bob Calvert and Michael Moorcock. Total playing time is about 70 minutes on each CD. >Tracklisting on the Live: Ned Ludd, Acid rain, Work song, Re-wind, Ship of fools, Damnation alley, All the machines are quiet, Orgone accumulator, Evil rock, Lord of the hornets, Catch a falling starfighter/Gremlin/Aerospace age inferno, Quark strangeness and charm, Radio Egypt, Working in a diamond mine, Days of the underground. A total of15 tracks. >Tracklisting on the demo: The greenfly and the rose, Lord of the hornets, Revenge, Fascism-futurism, Bugatti, Isadora, Messenger & Morpheus/Solstice, Stranger in a strange land, Steppenwolf, Another quiet day in Auschwitz, Starcruiser, Dodgem dude, Brothel in Rosenstrasse 1992, Good girl - bad girl, Time centre, My new life, Peter the vulture, Intro mental, Harlequin. A total of 19 tracks. > >These two CD?s are in my opinion among the best in my collection since it?s great live-recordings and rare tracks by especially the best rock-poet ever, Bob Calvert. Listen to Steppenwolf, Stranger..., messenger... and Solstice and you will know why! >The live-CD contains awesome versions of his own solo-tracks and the Hawkwind-tracks are absolutely faboulus. >The action man in a very good mood. > >Accordning to the source they will be made in 25 copies each and the price is ? 10 / $ 15 including P&P. > >All the best > >Henrik > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Oct 2 12:57:41 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 17:57:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Vinyl In-Reply-To: Mark Edmonds's message of Fri, 2 Oct 1998 13:38:00 +0100 Message-ID: Mark Edmonds writes: > From: Mark Edmonds > Date: 1998-10-02 13:38 > > > From: Mark Edmonds > > Date: 1998-09-28 15:24 > > > > > Quick trivia question which came to mind after listening to the old LPs: > > > Which Hawkwind track features repeated use of castanets? > > > > >Mirror of Illusion? > > > > >FoFP > > > >The Wizard Blew His Wotsit? There are a lot of odd noises in that I > >think? > > > >jill > > Just to put the world and his wife (pop. 3) out of their misery here, I > think there are castanets in Jack of Shadows. I didn't know that! Must check later. Didn't know I was married either.... Better check that too! I obviously haven't been paying attention recently 8-))) yrs weekendly jill obCd> Vaughan Williams "Antarctica Symphony". First movement just blows me away! ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Oct 2 13:15:34 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:15:34 +0100 Subject: OFF: Alchemyst In-Reply-To: <36147BA7.D5B148E8@TransWestTaxi.com> Message-ID: Are we talking about Alchemysts with an S? Terrastock veterans from England. If we are then go to; http://www.caber.net/obscura/cam009.htm for background info and sound samples. Where's Scott Heller? I read an on-line review somewhere with his byline. Regards, Z NP Tadpoles - Destroy Terrastock At 01:07 02/10/1998 -0600, you wrote: >David G wrote: > >> Anyone know anything about these guys? The sound was >> somewhere between Space Ritual and Monster Magnet. > >Hmmm. no info here, but I think my wallet is cringing again-sounds >interesting:)Pam > > >-- > Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton > ____/----^----\____ The greatest tool > O O "THE INTERNET" >E-mail: cwheaton at TransWestTaxi.com >http://www.TransWestTaxi.com > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Oct 2 13:31:57 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 18:31:57 +0100 Subject: Anubian Lights Message-ID: If they're still signed to Cleopatra, their on line catalogue is at; http://www.hallucinet.com/cleopatra/cleo_cat.html Z NP Tadpoles - Destroy Terrastock' ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com From adawson at CLARA.NET Fri Oct 2 14:18:56 1998 From: adawson at CLARA.NET (Andrew Dawson) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:18:56 +0100 Subject: HW: Anubian Lights In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 08:36 02/10/98 -0500, you wrote: >I really like the *Jackal and Nine ep* by Anubian Lights. The music is >very ambient spacy, though with beats throughout. "Soul Herder" in >particular is stunning, and better than the other version of it on Nik >Turner's *Past or Future* CD. This CD is perfect for late night/early >morning, and even better for writing to. > >Does anyone know if there are other Anubian Lights CDs out, or if more are >being planned? I know they have one track on the *Area 51* compilation >(which is also very good, IMHO). > >--thomas rickert > Eternal Sky - Hypnotic CLEO 9603-2 Aug'95 Jackel and Nine E.P - Hypnotic CLEO 9666-2 Jan'96 and the latest Let Not the Flame Die Out - Hypnotic CLP 0346-2 Sep'98 only received this today and so haven't had chance to play it. Various AL tracks have appeared on the following compilations Travellers of Space - Cleopatra CLEO PRO2 Jun'95 Ambient Time Travellers - Cleopatra CLEO 9649-2 ???'96 Space Daze 2000 - Cleopara CLEO 1844 Feb'96 Space Box 1970 & Beyond - Cleopatra CLP 9772-2 Sep'96 This is Space - Cleopatra CLP 9974-2 ???'97 Not heard of the AREA 51 compilation. Do you have any more details on this please?. Andy Andrew Dawson adawson at clara.net Into Hawkwind ? Then check out the Worldwide discography. http://home.clara.net/adawson From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Fri Oct 2 14:30:03 1998 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:30:03 -0700 Subject: HW: Anubian Lights Message-ID: >Hi there > > Does anyone know if there are other Anubian Lights CDs out, or if more are >> being planned? I know they have one track on the *Area 51* compilation >> (which is also very good, IMHO). >> >There was mention on here recently of a new one being out. Someone else with >the actual album should be able to give us more info. >I'm hoping to get it soon, except the exchange rate between Australia and >the rest of the world is really bad right now. The price of imported CD's >have almost doubled!!! > >William The new one is"Not Let The Flame Die Out" and it's pretty good, a bit more varied than their previous stuff. The Hawkwind connection is getting a bit strained on this one though: Simon House is listed as a Special Guest (violin on only one track, "Frequency"), and Nik is also a Special Guest, although his sax and flute are almost nonexistent on this! Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu http://www.psn.net/~novadrive/ From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Oct 2 14:25:56 1998 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:25:56 -0700 Subject: OFF: Alchemyst Message-ID: zeitgeist-scot wrote: >Are we talking about Alchemysts with an S? Terrastock veterans from >England. If we are then go to;http://www.caber.net/obscura/cam009.htm >for background info and sound samples. Yeah, this is definitely referring to the Alchemysts (plural). I have their first CD, which was released by Behemoth records in the USA; the descriptions that people have provided are fairly accurate. Although I must admit that I didn't think the CD was as good as the track ("Blind Side") from their first demo tape that was on a Ptolemaic Terrascope EP many years ago ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com >David G wrote: > >> Anyone know anything about these guys? The sound was >> somewhere between Space Ritual and Monster Magnet. From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Oct 2 14:37:49 1998 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 11:37:49 -0700 Subject: SV: OFF: Help with Scandinavian space/psych Message-ID: On Thu, 1 Oct 1998 16:12:28 -0400, Keith Henderson wrote: >And has anyone heard the 1970 album by 'Tree, Grass, and Stones'? Cranium has >it on their site and it sounded interesting. Yes, I have this one (it's actually credited to the Swedish spelling of the name, which I won't attempt, since I know I'd be missing numerous diacriticals :^). Very cool sorta laid-back heavy fuzzed-out rock, with a few bizarre covers ("Satisfaction" is one) and some fine originals. Perhaps a bit like Monster Magnet if Dave Wyndorf was stuffed to his gills with quaaludes (hmmm ... not at all an unlikely possibility?). Anyway, I like it, for whatever that's worth. My other favorite recent Swedish discovery is Algarnas Tradgard (sorry for the missing diacriticals!). I REALLY like this band, partially because I love any spacy band with a good violin player. Lots of electronics on it, too, and a very strong Scandanavian folk vibe to it. Almost like Faust meets Third Ear Band, in Sweden, of course. And speaking of bands with cool violin sounds, I saw a band in SF last night called Deadweight (they were on the same bill as us at a music festival, otherwise I probably never would have checked them out) who were a violin-cello-drums trio. Both string players used effects quite tastefully (just enough distortion on the cello to make it sound like a chunky rhythm guitar), and were quite talented (almost made me feel like hanging up my bow). Difficult to describe, but very rocking and tuneful, with unique melodies and textures that you'd never get with a guitar band. The violinist said that they have recently been more "heavy metal" than their earlier "psychedelic" material. They have a CD out, but unfortunately I was short on cash ... next time! The only disappointment for me was that when they chose to play a cover for their encore, it was "Devil Went Down To Georgia" (uh oh, there's that Southern Rock thread rearing its ugly head!) and not "Saenonymous" (they really did sound like High Tide at times). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Fri Oct 2 14:45:14 1998 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (David G) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:45:14 +0100 Subject: OFF: Alchemyst Message-ID: Thanks for the info. This could very well be the same lot, yes. If I could persuade the RA samples on the web page to play I'd have a better idea! There was definitely a mention of Seratonin something or other as th name of either th track or the album, but maybe th label is different or the page hasn't updated. Peel said the album was recorded in Somerset which ties up with the biog, but that the label was Australian (?). Time for some research. DaveG zeitgeist-scot wrote: > Are we talking about Alchemysts with an S? Terrastock veterans from > England. If we are then go to; > http://www.caber.net/obscura/cam009.htm > for background info and sound samples. > > Where's Scott Heller? I read an on-line review somewhere with his byline. > > Regards, > > Z > NP Tadpoles - Destroy Terrastock > > At 01:07 02/10/1998 -0600, you wrote: > >David G wrote: > > > >> Anyone know anything about these guys? The sound was > >> somewhere between Space Ritual and Monster Magnet. > > > >Hmmm. no info here, but I think my wallet is cringing again-sounds > >interesting:)Pam > > > > > >-- > > Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton > > ____/----^----\____ The greatest tool > > > O O "THE INTERNET" > >E-mail: cwheaton at TransWestTaxi.com > >http://www.TransWestTaxi.com > > > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER > http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com > PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK > e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com From drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Oct 2 15:27:38 1998 From: drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM (Torgo Sedler) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 12:27:38 PDT Subject: BOC: Binghamton Gig (and Golf) Message-ID: Hi kids: Regarding the Binghamton Gig, Theo's directions that were originally my directions are pretty acurate. I totally flaked and was thinking about a different club down in Binghamton. Thanks Theo, now I won't go to the wrong place (DOH!). Anyway, the BEST radio station in the Binghamton Area (KGB FM) has been playing "Live For Me" fairly often lately and today after they played it they talked about the gig a bit. The opening act is "XXX", probably a local act. Tickets are 15 bucks in advance and 18 bucks at the door. Not complaining or anything, 18 bucks for BOC is still a pretty cheap date, but considering the New Hartford gig was 10 bucks it sure hits the wallet harder. Hi Ho. Maybe Live for Me is doing well enough in the Binghamton Area that they hiked the price up. Who can say? More than likely I will be at the show. Nick, are you going for sure? (and then Theo said...) >Hey, when are we gonna get together for a round? I didn't know you >were a duffer. Played 18 yesterday after work... I only took up the sport a few months ago, so naturally I am hooked and it is allI think about. My shots range from brilliant shots that would make Tiger Woods cream 'em to slices that kill people 4 fairways over. I am pretty inconsistent, but I have a great time whether I do good or bad. Talk to me come springtime Theo, It'd be kinda cool to have a BOC OPEN or something. Maybe we could get Brian and Jason to slap a few around too. And in order to tie the golf thing back in with BOC content.... It was suggested to me to mark my balls (golf that is) with a magic marker for easy identification. A buddy of mine uses his initials, and I do that myself on some of mine. But when I want a little good luck on the course..... yep.... I use a good old BOC symbol. :^) Lurkin' again... Torgo has left the building....... *********************************************** Torgo at norwich.net DrTorgo at hotmail.com http://welcome.to/torgos *********************************************** ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Fri Oct 2 16:11:34 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 16:11:34 -0400 Subject: BOC: Binghamton Gig (and Golf) Message-ID: Torgo sez: >It'd be kinda cool to have a BOC >OPEN or something. Maybe we could get Brian and Jason to slap a few >around too. I only get out about 3 or 4 times a season, but I know that if I can just get a few more games in I'll be able to get the ball in the clown's nose. Seriously though, I shoot 100+, but if I can get out early and often this spring I should be able to make my game a little more respectable for a BOC scramble. Although it might be slightly less embarrasing if we play a par 3 like Pope's Grove in Syr. >It was suggested to me to mark my balls (golf that is) with a magic >marker for easy identification. A buddy of mine uses his initials, and I >do that myself on some of mine. But when I want a little good luck on >the course..... yep.... I use a good old BOC symbol. :^) That could be a problem at the BOC Open. TORGO: "Is that your ball or mine over there?" BRIAN: "Mine's a MaxFly #3. BOC symbol." TORGO: "Mine too!" BRIAN: "Damn, well I guess we'll just have to not count this hole." TORGO: "Wait. What color was yours?" BRIAN: "Orange." TORGO: "Oh, then I guess it's not yours then." ;-) OB real BOC content> Has anyone checked out the "Tourdates of Yore" on the official site? Man, they've played in Rochester and Binghamton *a lot*. Unless there really is a place called Bingham(p)ton, NY in the same county... Brian OB CD> Descendents "Somery" ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- From Steve at DOREMI.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Oct 2 16:53:11 1998 From: Steve at DOREMI.DEMON.CO.UK (Steve) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 20:53:11 GMT Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_HW:_New_Bob_Calvert_CD=B4s.?= In-Reply-To: <000601bdedfe$cc29a7c0$c0cc143e@peace-of-mind> Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:15:54 +0200, you sent through the ether: >The first is a live-CD with tracks from two shows, 6/11-86 and 31/1-87 and the second is filled with demos and rare tracks by Bob Calvert and Michael Moorcock. Hiya, I`d like to hear these CD`s.. :) The first 6/11/86 according to my diary is from the Princess Charlotte in Leicester, I played guitar at that show & Bob & I had a MASSIVE falling out during the gig.. (he said I was playing too loud.. ..as if..) can you hear the argument? the 2nd ins`t in my book, the closest I have to that date is 13/12/86 at Dingwalls, so I suspect it may be a date he did with the Starfighers or a typo.. -Steve From erics at NOW.COM Fri Oct 2 19:51:28 1998 From: erics at NOW.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1998 19:51:28 -0400 Subject: HW: Punkwind In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980930162436.0068fc04@mail1.wizvax.net> from "Bolts of Ungodly Vision" at Sep 30, 98 04:24:36 pm Message-ID: At 08:55 PM 9/30/98 +0100, (someone, dunno who) wrote: > I once read something (Trouser Press Guide?) which said that >some people considered Hawkwind offensive merely for existing, >and if that wasn't punk, they didn't know what was :) By that definition, I guess Elvis was punk too :-) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at now.com | | / The Rock & Roll Baby Theorem: Syllables(x+"baby") = Syllables("baby"+x) = Syllables(x) + 2 SemanticContent(x+"baby") = SemanticContent("baby"+x) = SemanticContent(x) - Anonymous From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Oct 3 00:15:55 1998 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 00:15:55 EDT Subject: HW: Anubian Lights/Ash Ra T. Message-ID: Hi. Re: Anubian Lights My opinion is a little more extreme--I think this (along w/most of the material released under the name of "Nik Turner") is some of _the_ best music released in the '90s. Mind-blowing spaciness, complexly-layered, transcendant ambient, with touches of techno. And that's only based upon the Jackal EP and a couple of comp. tunes--I don't even have the Eternal Sky nor the new one yet! NP: Just-released Ash Ra Temple on CD, courtesy of Cleopatra! Imagine Kraut- CDs for domestic prices in the U.S... Chuck From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sat Oct 3 01:47:37 1998 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:47:37 EDT Subject: HW: Magic Muscle for sale Message-ID: Hi, folks. I got ahold of Magic Muscle's "One Hundred Miles Below"--I'm listening to it now and am pretty disappointed; it's pretty much commercial (by HW standards) hardrock, from what I've heard so far. The second track has some House violin tweaking reminiscent of "Robot", however. On fourth track now, some decent House again, perhaps the only reason worth owning this record...unless you're a kompletist kollector...which brings me to the main point of this post! I'm selling this, and since it seems like a fairly rare record, I'm asking $16, ppd. Here are the details: Magic Muscle "One Hundred Miles Below" One Big Guitar Records OBG-LP 9005 1989 Mint-condition Notes: Studioized from a live recording in '88. Players: Rod Goodway, Huw Gower, Ade Shaw, Twink, House E-mail if interested. I could use the cash, but I guess I'll take a trade if you have something I really need. Thanks, Chuck PS: Okay, on further listening, there is some mild spaciness due to House's fine playing, but warning: it's still constantly in a very polished hard-rock context. From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Oct 3 04:49:19 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 09:49:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Punkwind In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Eric Siegerman writes >At 08:55 PM 9/30/98 +0100, (someone, dunno who) wrote: >> I once read something (Trouser Press Guide?) which said that >>some people considered Hawkwind offensive merely for existing, >>and if that wasn't punk, they didn't know what was :) > >By that definition, I guess Elvis was punk too :-) Well, before he joined the Army, how much more contentious and socially upheaving could you get? -- Jon From hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET Sat Oct 3 05:25:59 1998 From: hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 04:25:59 -0500 Subject: HW: New calvert cd's Message-ID: > These two CD?s are in my opinion among the best in my collection since it?s great live-recordings and rare tracks by especially the best rock-poet ever, Bob Calvert. Listen to Steppenwolf, Stranger..., messenger... and Solstice and you will know why! > The live-CD contains awesome versions of his own solo-tracks and the Hawkwind-tracks are absolutely faboulus. > The action man in a very good mood. > > Accordning to the source they will be made in 25 copies each and the price is ? 10 / $ 15 including P&P. > Where is the source? How does somebody order these? From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sat Oct 3 06:41:33 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:41:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Vinyl In-Reply-To: <199810021657.RAA17893@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: jill wrote: > >obCd> Vaughan Williams "Antarctica Symphony". First movement just >blows me away! You & me both - RVW is one of the great discoveries of my (erm) "maturity" (?) ChrisW ObCD:Bruford Levin Upper Extremities Free your mind & watch your ass! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sat Oct 3 06:46:18 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:46:18 +0100 Subject: SV: OFF: Help with Scandinavian space/psych In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981002113749.008114e0@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: At 11:37 02/10/98 -0700, Doug wrote: >Very cool sorta laid-back heavy fuzzed-out rock, with a >few bizarre covers ("Satisfaction" is one) > As bizarre as The Residents' version? > >My other favorite recent Swedish discovery is Algarnas Tradgard (sorry for >the missing diacriticals!). I REALLY like this band, partially because I >love any spacy band with a good violin player. Lots of electronics on it, >too, and a very strong Scandanavian folk vibe to it. Almost like Faust >meets Third Ear Band, in Sweden, of course. > Back to "space folk" again :-{)> ChrisW Free your mind & watch your ass! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sat Oct 3 06:49:16 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 11:49:16 +0100 Subject: BOC: Binghamton Gig (and Golf) In-Reply-To: <19981002192738.12980.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: At 12:27 02/10/98 PDT, you wrote: >It was suggested to me to mark my balls (golf that is) with a magic >marker for easy identification. A buddy of mine uses his initials, and I >do that myself on some of mine. But when I want a little good luck on >the course..... yep.... I use a good old BOC symbol. :^) > >Lurkin' again... > >Torgo has left the building....... Try a muttered incantation of "Blood & souls for my lord Arioch" - then at least you might profit from any fatalities ;^P ChrisW Free your mind & watch your ass! From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sat Oct 3 08:05:30 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 13:05:30 +0100 Subject: HW: Punkwind In-Reply-To: from "Eric Siegerman" at Oct 2, 98 07:51:28 pm Message-ID: > At 08:55 PM 9/30/98 +0100, (someone, dunno who) wrote: > > I once read something (Trouser Press Guide?) which said that > >some people considered Hawkwind offensive merely for existing, > >and if that wasn't punk, they didn't know what was :) > > By that definition, I guess Elvis was punk too :-) Well, he *was*, wasn't he? Cheers, Carl From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Oct 3 15:53:50 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1998 20:53:50 +0100 Subject: OFF: VHI FRIDAY ROCK SHOW Message-ID: Every week the video is set for midnight on Friday and it's usually unmitigated tosh, but last night Thomas the Vance dragged out Black Sabbath - Iton Man (Beat Club 72), Status Quo live in 73 doing Roll Over Lay Down and three in a row from Motorhead! Iron Fist, Burner and Ace Of Spades. It made an old rocker very happy. And I finally realised that they put the playlist on their web site two days before transmission. So no more blind taping. Sometimes it's almost worthwhile. http://www.rocknetwork.com Z NP The Best Of Indie Metal [which apparently includes HW and Huw] ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Sun Oct 4 06:52:37 1998 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 06:52:37 EDT Subject: HW: New calvert cd's Message-ID: I just read this posting about the new Calvert cd's.Unfortunately the original communication didnt come up .Anyone got any details?What are they called,where can I get them , tracklists etc. Thanks All the best Al From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sun Oct 4 19:20:30 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 00:20:30 +0100 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_HW:_New_Bob_Calvert_CD=B4s.?= In-Reply-To: Steve's message of Fri, 2 Oct 1998 20:53:11 GMT Message-ID: Steve writes: > On Fri, 2 Oct 1998 14:15:54 +0200, you sent through the ether: > > >The first is a live-CD with tracks from two shows, 6/11-86 and 31/1-87 and the second is filled with demos and rare tracks by Bob Calvert and Michael Moorcock. > > > Hiya, > > I`d like to hear these CD`s.. :) > > The first 6/11/86 according to my diary is from the Princess Charlotte > in Leicester, I played guitar at that show & Bob & I had a MASSIVE > falling out during the gig.. (he said I was playing too loud.. ..as > if..) can you hear the argument? the 2nd ins`t in my book, the closest I > have to that date is 13/12/86 at Dingwalls, so I suspect it may be a > date he did with the Starfighers or a typo.. I've got a tape dated 31/10/87 with Calvert and the Starfighters in Manchester. Tracklist: Nedd Ludd / Test Tube / Diamond Mine / Quark / power cut and Medusa / Telekinesis / Radio Egypt / Cold War Kid / Hidden Persuasion / Work Song / Picket Line / Machines Are Quiet / Acid Rain / Save Them(? - part only) / Fable of the Failed Race / Spirit of the Age / Ships of Fools / Right Stuff / Catch a Falling Starfighter / Aerospaceage Inferno / Silver Machine Blues. Maybe this is the show referred to above? There's a reference during the Acid Rain intro to a hurricane that had just hit England. Would this be right for the date of that storm? jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Oct 4 19:23:35 1998 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1998 19:23:35 EDT Subject: HW: More Newsgroup Stuff Message-ID: Subject: FS: hawkwind stuff From: grafixx at jps.net Date: Sun, Oct 4, 1998 13:12 EDT Message-id: <6v8a9t$i0c$1 at nnrp1.dejanews.com> posters stickers postcards chronicle of the black sword tour guide patches hawkfan issues hawkzine issues shirts grafixx at jps.net -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own From sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU Mon Oct 5 01:13:10 1998 From: sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 15:13:10 +1000 Subject: HW/OFF: A.T. Wells Band (featuring HLL) Message-ID: Gidday All, Does any one over there in the UK know anything about the AT Wells band? Apparently Allan Wells is an expat Oz who has been based in the UK (currently Ireland) for the last 10 years, and his rhythm section consists of Huw Lloyd- Langton. I've been approached ny a local radio station program manager who happens to be an old friend of Allan to organise an Australian Tour (including HLL!!) Any info would be more than appreciatted! Soniqu? -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique / \( o`-, ----- may sonique at mail.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they UIN #14292706 on ICQ /////// : ; --- Fly! From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Mon Oct 5 02:13:28 1998 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 01:13:28 -0500 Subject: BOC: See You in Black Message-ID: Hi all, a friend of mine was watching Sports Line which is the sports half of our local news here in Saskatoon, which is affiliated with the Global Television Network here in Canada. During the broadcast while they were showing highlights of the recent Toronto Argonauts CFL game they were playing See you in Black. I was quite shocked to hear this, I wish I would of seen it myself I would of went absolutely ballistic to say the least ;-). The broadcast was aired Fri Oct 2 on the 10 o'clock news. I love to hear of any BOC song reference other that DFTR, looking forward to hearing the Metallica version of Astronomy on there next album also. From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Mon Oct 5 01:40:13 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 05:40:13 +0000 Subject: BOC: Binghamton Gig (and Golf) Message-ID: > Anyway, the BEST radio station in the Binghamton Area (KGB FM) has been > playing "Live For Me" fairly often lately and today after they played it > they talked about the gig a bit. The opening act is "XXX", probably a > local act. How is KGB these days? I usually listen to WAAL when I go back up there...it's all classic rock, as opposed to KGB's AOR format which, last time I listened, was starting to include too much alternative. Triple-X is indeed a local band. Metal. Can't really say what they sound like now, but in the early 90s a guy whose sister I almost married sang for them for a while, and they pretty much ranged from 80s hair rock to Queensryche-style prog. > More than likely I will be at the show. Nick, are you going for sure? It's just been confirmed. I will be there. Look for a HUUUUUGE man...very tall, very heavy, with black hair and a beard and mustache. No, that's not me, but I'm the much smaller dude with LONG black hair. I'd tell ya what I'm wearing, but I never pick out my clothes in advance unless It's for a wedding or a funeral! > bad. Talk to me come springtime Theo, It'd be kinda cool to have a BOC > OPEN or something. Maybe we could get Brian and Jason to slap a few > around too. You'll have to count me out, I hate golf and I'm horrible at it. I figure anyplace that O.J. Simpson feels at home is no place for me. -- Nick From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Mon Oct 5 01:40:13 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 05:40:13 +0000 Subject: BOC: See You in Black Message-ID: > looking forward to hearing the Metallica version of Astronomy on there next > album also. WHAT?! I guess that would be on their new "garage band" disc? -- Nick From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Mon Oct 5 00:28:32 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 04:28:32 +0000 Subject: New Metal Compilation from The Music Zone! Message-ID: Slab Recordings/CMC International will be releasing the best hard music compilation of 1998 on October 27th, ECW: Extreme Music. The record features today's top hard rock/heavy metal artists covering songs you love. The record will be tied into ECW (Extreme Championship Wrestling) and the songs on this record will become the theme songs for many of the ECW's biggest stars including Sabu, Sandman, Van Dam, Taz, Shane Douglas, Bam Bam Bigelow and many more. Here are the artists and songs: Megadeth Truth (ECW Instrumental Mix) White Zombie El Phantasmo And The Chicken Run Blast-O-Rama Kilgore Walk Bruce Dickinson The Zoo Motorhead Enter Sandman Grinspoon Snap Your Fingers, Snap Your Neck Anthrax Phantom Lord Tres Diablos (featuring Dimebag Darrell, Vinnie Paul & Rex) Heard It On The X Monster Magnet Kick Out The Jams Muscadine Big Balls Harry Slash & The Slashtones This Is Extreme (ECW Theme) & Huka Blues From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Oct 5 07:24:05 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 07:24:05 EDT Subject: BOC: See You in Black In-Reply-To: <36186388.BC28373B@dlcwest.com> Message-ID: > From: Laj Waldner I love to hear of any BOC song reference other that DFTR, looking > forward to hearing the Metallica version of Astronomy on there next > album also. Is this a put-on? If not, I'd like to hear this one myself... theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Oct 5 08:09:58 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 08:09:58 EDT Subject: BOC: Binghamton Gig (and Golf) In-Reply-To: <19981002192738.12980.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: > From: Torgo Sedler > > Anyway, the BEST radio station in the Binghamton Area (KGB FM) has been > playing "Live For Me" fairly often lately and today after they played it > they talked about the gig a bit. The opening act is "XXX", probably a > local act. Well, if they're anything like the band that opened last time at Strikezone, I'll be next door tossing off a couple beers waiting for BOC... Tickets are 15 bucks in advance and 18 bucks at the door. Not > complaining or anything, 18 bucks for BOC is still a pretty cheap date, > but considering the New Hartford gig was 10 bucks it sure hits the > wallet harder. Hi Ho. > Yeah, that's a bit high, IMO. Brian, how much are they charging for the Roch. gig? > Maybe Live for Me is doing well enough in the Binghamton Area that they > hiked the price up. Who can say? > > More than likely I will be at the show. Nick, are you going for sure? > > (and then Theo said...) > > >Hey, when are we gonna get together for a round? I didn't know you > >were a duffer. Played 18 yesterday after work... > > I only took up the sport a few months ago, so naturally I am hooked and > it is allI think about. My shots range from brilliant shots that would > make Tiger Woods cream 'em to slices that kill people 4 fairways over. I > am pretty inconsistent, but I have a great time whether I do good or > bad. Talk to me come springtime Theo, It'd be kinda cool to have a BOC > OPEN or something. Maybe we could get Brian and Jason to slap a few > around too. > > And in order to tie the golf thing back in with BOC content.... > > It was suggested to me to mark my balls (golf that is) with a magic > marker for easy identification. A buddy of mine uses his initials, and I > do that myself on some of mine. But when I want a little good luck on > the course..... yep.... I use a good old BOC symbol. :^) > Yep, I put the Kronos on mine too... theo From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Mon Oct 5 07:00:41 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 11:00:41 +0000 Subject: BOC: BOC&KGB Message-ID: Just talked to a friend of mine who says KGB is giving "Live for Me" a decent amount of spins, and talking up the album pretty well. In fact, they're apparently running some kind of contest where you call in to win a free copy of HF and your name goes into a drawing for a guitar autographed by the band! I haven't heard of BOC being promoted this much in years...could things be turning up? : ) By the way, this friend tells me that he really enjoys KGB, and they do justice to all the geezer bands that have new albums, like UFO, Deep Purple, etc. Maybe I'll have to start checking them out from now on. Oh well. Counting the days down to Saturday! It'll be my first show in about two years or so. -- Nick From micci at SCI.FI Mon Oct 5 12:53:26 1998 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 19:53:26 +0300 Subject: SV: OFF: Help with Scandinavian space/psych Message-ID: >Hej again... > >With some help from others (thanks!), I'm moving forward on this collection >of artists/locations. I've searched for more names that would apply (?) to >my 'definition' of space/psych/electronic/ambient music. I've also found >lots of folk, pop, prog, jazz, etc. music I haven't included. > >Right now, my updated list is... >>>Lotus (???, Finland) Helsinki >Who knows about 5:15?? Are they a prog band or do they have space/psych >tedencies?? Sometimes, but prog is my opinion. Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Mon Oct 5 23:55:29 1998 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1998 22:55:29 -0500 Subject: Metallica cover Message-ID: Well, I heard the album was due out Nov 30. I think it's a Metallica cover album kinda like that GNR Spaghetti Incident album a few years back, but I don't know for sure. But one song there doing on it is Astronomy. There was a thread on this in the news group Alt.Music.BlueOysterCult. Laj. From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Tue Oct 6 01:41:08 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 05:41:08 +0000 Subject: HELLOOOOOOOO Message-ID: Anybody out there? -- Nick From simplius at SOFTHOME.NET Tue Oct 6 11:25:00 1998 From: simplius at SOFTHOME.NET (Goran Janicijevic) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:25:00 GMT Subject: Metallica cover In-Reply-To: <361994B1.81B9B1B7@dlcwest.com> Message-ID: LW> back, but I don't know for sure. But one song there doing on it is LW> Astronomy. There was a thread on this in the news group LW> Alt.Music.BlueOysterCult. Isn't this listserv group same as alt.music.blueoystercult? If not, where can I find free news server having this news group to subscribe to it? Simplius --- _ SPEED 1.30 G.J. _ + = From simplius at SOFTHOME.NET Tue Oct 6 11:26:00 1998 From: simplius at SOFTHOME.NET (Goran Janicijevic) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:26:00 GMT Subject: HELLOOOOOOOO In-Reply-To: <199810060942.FAA03773@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: > Anybody out there? This is BOC list, not Pink Floyd. ;-) Simplius --- _ SPEED 1.30 G.J. _ ??__ ?__?____ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Oct 6 11:34:31 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:34:31 -0400 Subject: Metallica cover In-Reply-To: <361994B1.81B9B1B7@dlcwest.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 5 Oct 1998, Laj Waldner wrote: => Well, I heard the album was due out Nov 30. I think it's a Metallica => cover album kinda like that GNR Spaghetti Incident album a few years => back, but I don't know for sure. But one song there doing on it is => Astronomy. There was a thread on this in the news group => Alt.Music.BlueOysterCult. I read somewhere that this release will also include the _Garage Days Re-revisited_ EP, which is good news for those of us who only have it on vinyl (and whose vinyl and turntable are some distance removed from their present location). I got the impression it was going to be a collection of past covers, B-sides, etc., but I guess they must be adding some new covers if "Astronomy" is going to appear. Just so long as it isn't _Re-re-load_, I'll be happy... ;-) Cheers, Paul. NP: The Bevis Frond, _North Circular_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Tue Oct 6 11:49:30 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 11:49:30 -0400 Subject: BOC: Metallica cover Message-ID: Paul said: >I read somewhere that this release will also include the _Garage Days >Re-revisited_ EP, which is good news for those of us who only have it on >vinyl (and whose vinyl and turntable are some distance removed from >their present location). >From the Metallica Web site: Mark November 17th, 1998 on your calendar! As well as being the release date for the already announced Metallica home video, it will also note the return of Garage Days. This will be a compilation of both Garage Days Revisited, which was released in 1984 as the b-side to Creeping Death and 1987's Garage Days Re-Revisited, an EP that has been out of print for some time now. Both Garage Days' are amongst the hottest of Metallica rarities and collectibles. This new collection will also feature every cover song the band has recorded and released as a b-side. Lars also promises about 40 minutes of new cover songs recorded especially for this project. Tracklist will include (but not limited to): >From Garage Days Revisited: Am I Evil? Blitzkrieg >From Garage Days Re-Revisited: Helpless The Small Hours The Wait Crash Course In Brain Surgery Last Caress/Green Hell Various b-sides and extra tracks: Breadfan The Prince Stone Cold Crazy Killing Time So What Overkill Damage Case Stone Dead Forever Too Late Too Late >I got the impression it was going to be a collection of past covers, >B-sides, etc., but I guess they must be adding some new covers if >"Astronomy" is going to appear. I'm surprised they didn't cover "Harvester of Eyes" or "Dominance and Submission." Maybe since Metallica has been mellowing, they decided to cover one of the more mellow BOC tunes? >Just so long as it isn't _Re-re-load_, I'll be happy... ;-) Amen! Brian ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- From chip at PCC.COM Tue Oct 6 13:11:19 1998 From: chip at PCC.COM (Chip Hart) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 13:11:19 -0400 Subject: OFF: Metallica EPs In-Reply-To: <329A5258416CD111928F006008A62C76562710@bpxsv.156.106.206.in-addr.arpa> from "brian halligan" at Oct 6, 98 11:49:30 am Message-ID: > This will be a compilation of both Garage Days Revisited, which was released > in 1984 as the b-side to Creeping Death and 1987's Garage Days Re-Revisited, > an EP that has been out of print for some time now. Both Garage Days' are > amongst the hottest of Metallica rarities and collectibles. As someone who owns the oringal cd+tape+vinyl of Re-Re and the picture disk and blue vinyl of Re-, I'm curious if anyone knows what these are worth? I've also got the Jump in the Fire EP and the Neck Brace Remix of Whiplash EP as well. I wouldn't know where to start selling something like these and sure don't want to do it on Usenet. [BTW - from what I can tell, a lot of Metallica fans haven't heard those early "live" versions of Phantom Lord/Seek & Destroy. They're GREAT.] Thanks. -- Chip Hart * chip @ pcc.com Physicians's Computer Company * http://www.pcc.com/~chip 15 Pinecrest Drive * Work:800-722-7708 Essex Junction, VT 05452 * Fax: 802-872-8214 From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Oct 6 13:09:46 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:09:46 +0100 Subject: HELLOOOOOOOO In-Reply-To: <199810060942.FAA03773@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: No At 05:41 06/10/1998 +0000, you wrote: >Anybody out there? > >-- Nick > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Oct 6 13:06:44 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:06:44 +0100 Subject: Metallica cover In-Reply-To: <361994B1.81B9B1B7@dlcwest.com> Message-ID: What they're doing is reissuing the Garge Days EP and recording five new tracks to make it a full length album and putting all the cover versions that appeared as single B-sides on it. Z NP Paradise Lost - One Second At 22:55 05/10/1998 -0500, you wrote: >Well, I heard the album was due out Nov 30. I think it's a Metallica >cover album kinda like that GNR Spaghetti Incident album a few years >back, but I don't know for sure. But one song there doing on it is >Astronomy. There was a thread on this in the news group >Alt.Music.BlueOysterCult. > > >Laj. > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Oct 6 13:32:07 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:32:07 +0100 Subject: HELLOOOOOOOO In-Reply-To: Nick's message of Tue, 6 Oct 1998 05:41:08 +0000 Message-ID: Nick writes: > Anybody out there? > > -- Nick > Bizy! Bak Son jill Gosh! a huge red sun just emerged from under a grey sky, is hanging suspended just above the horizon and slipping slowly down out of sight even as I type this. IMPRESSIVE! ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Oct 6 13:48:01 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:48:01 +0100 Subject: OFF: Metallica EPs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > As someone who owns the oringal cd+tape+vinyl of Re-Re and the picture disk and blue vinyl of Re-, I'm curious if anyone knows > what these are worth? I've also got the Jump in the Fire EP > and the Neck Brace Remix of Whiplash EP as well. I'm afraid you won't retire on the proceeds. Metallica rarities tend to actually be very common. Mint prices; Jump In The Fire 12" red - ?20/$33 " picture disc ?35//$58 Garage Days - ?7/$12 variations add about 15% [not as rare as people believe] No other commercial release is a major rarity except the clear vinyl 12" of Creeping Death which sells for about ?100, with the red/green versions going for about ?75. And remember that's what you'll pay for these. Selling to a dealer, lop 30% off the prices. Z NP Paradise Lost - One Second ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Tue Oct 6 14:09:57 1998 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (Bolts of Ungodly Vision) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 14:09:57 -0400 Subject: Metallica cover In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19981006180644.007a6830@pop.dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: At 06:06 PM 10/6/98 +0100, you wrote: >What they're doing is reissuing the Garge Days EP and recording five new >tracks to make it a full length album and putting all the cover versions >that appeared as single B-sides on it. > Hm.... sounds a bit like _Malpractice_ doesn't it? heheh Jason NP: tBS in Ithaca 12.26.97 Also, for BOC-related coincidences. check out the Addicted to Noise User Feedback page. [watch the needle on self-promoto-gram rocket] It starts with the title "No Summer of Love" and the following letter (the very first) is by yours truly. Only real connection is the title to "TAtSoL" and that they subtitled the quip in a complementary way. (Rock Critic stardom, here I come! (insert insipid insane cackle here... or better yet "Easy Moneys" laughing box end.) From edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK Tue Oct 6 13:47:00 1998 From: edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:47:00 +0100 Subject: HELLOOOOOOOO Message-ID: From: Mark Edmonds Date: 1998-10-06 18:47 >Gosh! a huge red sun just emerged from under a grey sky, is hanging >suspended just above the horizon and slipping slowly down out of sight >even as I type this. IMPRESSIVE! >=========================================================================== >J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk > ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- I remember being knee-high to a greenfly (to try and keep things vaguely on topic) and listening to stories told by my elders about this big round bright thing that used to appear at certain times of the day. Down here in London, this mysterious round object has passed into folk-lore and the only people to have seen it now sit around frazzled out on meths. At weekends, we play "sun rituals" where one of us hides behind the sofa and slowly pokes a torch over the top of it and we pretend its the sunrise. God, I hate winter. From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Oct 6 16:09:00 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 21:09:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Appearance on web cast Message-ID: Found this on a newsgroup. Sounds like a good show. "Here's the latest Real Audio 5.0 stream: Joy Division - Dead Souls Galaxie 500 - Snowstorm Smashing Orange - Don't Have to Tell Me Lazily Spun - Whole Moby Trip - Hey Jonah/Vur Immer Parts 1 & 2 Hawkwind - You Know You're Only Dreaming Ruin - By the By Dead Boys - Sonic Reducer Mudhoney - Mudride The Rezillos - (My Baby Does) Good Sculptures Rhythm Pigs - Road Machine Melvins - God of Thunder |--------[][][][][][][][][][][][]>------------------------- Pete -- Sounds of Tomorrow: http://members.aol.com/losafa or to go directly to the streaming Real Audio webcast: http://members.aol.com/losafa/show.ram " Z NP Whitesnake - Live In The Heart Of The City ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com From makmorn at QIS.NET Tue Oct 6 18:09:51 1998 From: makmorn at QIS.NET (Daniel Ligon) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 18:09:51 -0400 Subject: Metallica cover In-Reply-To: ; from Goran Janicijevic on Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 03:25:00PM +0000 Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 06, 1998 at 03:25:00PM +0000, Goran Janicijevic wrote: > LW> back, but I don't know for sure. But one song there doing on it is > LW> Astronomy. There was a thread on this in the news group > LW> Alt.Music.BlueOysterCult. > > Isn't this listserv group same as alt.music.blueoystercult? Not at all. Some denizens of the newsgroup don't like the non-BOC discussion here, and some us don't want our addresses posted to USENET. > If not, where can I find free news server having this news group > to subscribe to it? There is a list of free newsservers at http://www.jammed.com/~newzbot/ -- Daniel Ligon makmorn at qis.net The entire story of Imaginos has not been told and only time will tell if the riddle will begin. -- Albert From tnelson at NOHUM.K12.CA.US Tue Oct 6 18:11:00 1998 From: tnelson at NOHUM.K12.CA.US (Thomas Nelson) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 15:11:00 -0700 Subject: OFF: Gumby is back, Tape Swap In-Reply-To: <199810060901.FAA15669@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hey folks! The Gumby Man is back! I had some internet provider difficulties at my work, so please notice the new address. Have I missed anything of great importance the last two months? What about the Tape Swap? I have only received two tapes so far. Have we all given up? Is anybody still sending tapes? It's been lonely with out ya'll! Lovesign, The Gumby Man Thomas Nelson 8th Grade Core Teacher McKinleyville Middle School "I am desperately afraid I will die before I've written all of the stories I have in me." Harlan Ellison, author From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Oct 6 20:04:25 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 20:04:25 -0400 Subject: OFF: Gumby is back, Tape Swap Message-ID: >What about the Tape Swap? I have only received two tapes so far. Have we >all given up? Is anybody still sending tapes? After a great delay I sent my second tape out last week. The third should go out once my collaborator on my original tape is done with it. I send mine to Chris Allen. The original tape I sent had a picture of a woman on the cover, and labeled one side "abrasive" and the other side non-abrasive. The second tape only had an e-mail address on it, heavily synth/electronic, not really what I cared for. The third one was entitled "Scenes from chaotica", had some good stuff. ============================= "All praise, he's found the awful truth, Balthazar... He's found the saucer news!" - E.T.I. by Blue ?yster Cult -AAA From fswof at AURORA.ALASKA.EDU Tue Oct 6 23:08:18 1998 From: fswof at AURORA.ALASKA.EDU (William Fuller) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1998 19:08:18 -0800 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles In-Reply-To: <199810070004.UAA28554@in.flite.net> Message-ID: How many different CD versions of Live Chronicles are there? Which one is best and has the most tracks? -- William Fuller fswof at uaf.edu ICQ 1530842 http://members.tripod.com/~Zomb From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Oct 7 01:28:17 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 01:28:17 -0400 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles Message-ID: >How many different CD versions of Live Chronicles are there? Which one is >best and has the most tracks? I'd vote for the Griffin double-cd set. (yes, I know there's one with a sampler now, but still).... They did a fine job on the packaging, even tossing in a Moorcock elric story in the box (the first one). They got one of the Gould paintings for the cover, very good. They got 3 extra tracks, War I survived, Voices in My Head, and one other. And they got all the Moorcock bits restored that were pulled from earlier releases. And they got lyrics in the other booklet. ============================= "All praise, he's found the awful truth, Balthazar... He's found the saucer news!" - E.T.I. by Blue ?yster Cult -AAA From Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG Wed Oct 7 10:36:39 1998 From: Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG (Olivier Boigey) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:36:39 +0200 Subject: HW: Webring Message-ID: Some time ago someone posted a list of all HW related web sites, and the constitution of a ring of these sites was viewed as a possibility; I found more tech news about that at ; if the web creators agree we could be part of this listing; for example you can browse the Pink Floyd ring at Being part of the Music index of webrings also implies having neighboors like Spice Girls or AccordeonI _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Olivier Boigey 35 rue Navier 75017 - Paris - FRANCE TEL/FAX: 33 1 42 26 38 15 e-mail: olivier_boigey at technolink.org http://www.altern.org/obwaje/hmpg.htm _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ - sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered). From mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM Wed Oct 7 10:31:50 1998 From: mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM (Marc Power) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:31:50 -0400 Subject: OFF: Orion SpaceRock Festival - video? Message-ID: Greetings Cozmic ones, I know a few of you were in attendance at the 2nd Orion SpaceRock Festival in Baltimore MD this past Saturday. What a great time! Now tell me, who managed to video Alien Planetscapes & Quarkspace? I would like a copy since the battery in my camcorder died just after our (B0RN to G0) set. I will trade the video of us (B0RN to G0), playing that same night, which came out rather well. Let me know, In Space we Trust, Marc. ----- From wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Oct 7 10:50:59 1998 From: wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM (wandering-star) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 15:50:59 +0100 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles Message-ID: There are 3 different cd versions of 'Live Chronicles'. The best is US release on Griffin, the mastering is better and it has all the Moorcock spoken word tracks that aren't on the 2 Castle Communications releases. The artwork is great too. There are two 'Castle' versions the newest has a load of bonus tracks culled from the stuff they licenced on a second cd. Unfortunately the Griffin release is deleted but you might pick it up from that place in Dundee...CD Services(I think...?) Rich From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 7 11:52:37 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:52:37 +0100 Subject: OFF: Orion SpaceRock Festival - video? In-Reply-To: Marc Power's message of Wed, 7 Oct 1998 10:31:50 -0400 Message-ID: Marc Power writes: > Greetings Cozmic ones, > > I know a few of you were in attendance at the 2nd Orion SpaceRock > Festival in Baltimore MD this past Saturday. What a great time! > > Now tell me, who managed to video Alien Planetscapes & Quarkspace? > I would like a copy since the battery in my camcorder died just after > our (B0RN to G0) set. I will trade the video of us (B0RN to G0), playing > that same night, which came out rather well. Any way to get thses in PAL VHS form? FoFP From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Oct 7 12:02:46 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:02:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 6, 1998 7:08 pm -0800 "William Fuller" wrote: > How many different CD versions of Live Chronicles are there? Which one is > best and has the most tracks? Two that I know of for sure: the 1 CD Castle (GWR?) version and the 2 CD Griffin version. I gather there is a _new_ version of _LC_ with random extra unrelated Hawktrax on it, but I've not seen it and don't know if it is mostly the old Castle/GWR or fuller Griffin... Cheers, carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Oct 7 12:20:38 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:20:38 +0100 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well, I've got three versions. The original, the Castle reissue and the latest with bonus CD. The Chronicles set has stayed the same over the releases I have and the track listing is on the Hawkwind page of my e-zine. Click below, then choose Record Hunter. The latest is probably the best because you get the bonus CD and it's at mid-price. Z NP Deep Purple - Live 1/10/98 At 19:08 06/10/1998 -0800, you wrote: >How many different CD versions of Live Chronicles are there? Which one is >best and has the most tracks? > >-- >William Fuller fswof at uaf.edu > ICQ 1530842 > http://members.tripod.com/~Zomb > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Oct 7 13:06:15 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:06:15 +0100 Subject: HW:Bedouin & Motorhead, London Message-ID: Anyone going to Motorhead at Brixton Academy on the 17th? Anyone going to Bedouin at where-ever-it-is on the 14th? Cheers, carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Oct 7 13:14:02 1998 From: wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM (wandering-star) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:14:02 +0100 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles Message-ID: The Griffin release is definately the best ;-) Incidentally, anyone got the yet another reissue of Acid Daze on Castle with the bonus trax? Theyve got it at 15 squid, expensive or what :-( Rich From wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Oct 7 13:15:28 1998 From: wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM (wandering-star) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:15:28 +0100 Subject: HW:Bedouin & Motorhead, London Message-ID: Where are Bedouin playing? Rich ObGig: Bauhaus at Brixton Academy 7/11/98(I hope) From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 7 13:39:14 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:39:14 +0100 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles In-Reply-To: wandering-star's message of Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:14:02 +0100 Message-ID: wandering-star writes: > The Griffin release is definately the best ;-) > > Incidentally, anyone got the yet another reissue of Acid Daze on Castle > with the bonus trax? Theyve got it at 15 squid, expensive or what :-( which bonus tracks are these again? Not that I intend to pay 15 quid but I should keep in touch with these things I guess. ta jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Oct 7 12:35:02 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:35:02 +0100 Subject: OFF: Orion Space rock review Message-ID: Orion Space Rock Festival '98: A Non-pretentious attempt at a review by Perky Pat Links to all bands, Strange Trips, and Orion follow the "review" Another GREAT festival at Orion. Last year's five band roster was an amazing day, but it was a LONG day, lasting more than 12 hours. This year, there were only three bands, with the show lasting a bit more than six hours (at my age, manageable). All three bands, Born to Go, Quarkspace, and Alien Planetscapes played solid sets that were thoroughly enjoyed by the less than full house. The Strange Trips lightshow was here again, and this year's festival was every bit as tripped out as last year's, due to the cool sounds, and astounding lightshow. They must have gotten a lot more lights since last year, as the lightshow seemed especially layered (that or I've altered my chemistry once too often, and it was me that was layered...I'm pretty sure it was Strange Trips though!!!). Anyways, onto the bands. First up were Born to Go. I only caught the last five songs, as we were running kinda late, but what I saw, I liked a lot. They struck me as a punker kind of Hawkwind (sort of what I imagine they would have sounded like if Lemmy had taken more of a leadership role), with sci-fi/computer related lyrics. Each song I saw was very high energy, with a cool synth wash over the whole thang. They had lots of noisy robots down on the floor banging into everyone's legs, and the lightshow by Strange Trips was excellent. Born to Go ripped, and were a fantastic way to start the evening. Next is a band I've now seen a few times, Quarkspace. Everytime I see them, they seem to be getting better and better. Last year, I reviewed the show, and made a crack about Quarkspace "not being fucked up sounding enuff for my taste"...well, this year they were VERY fucked up and spacial with several long improvised sounding pieces that really worked. The first piece was like a Wendy & Carl/Pink Floyd trip piece that surprised me, and they didn't let me down for the rest of the set--great show guys!!! They were also good at the Strange Daze festival two months ago up in Ohio, but I think their set here was the best I've seen. Finally, the kings of American space rock, Alien Planetscapes. I had seen them at the Strange Daze fest in a rather heavily altered state, and they were incredible (but almost too intense that night if ya get my drift)...so here at the Orion Space Rock fest this night, I was looking forward to seeing the Aliens sans third eye to see if they were as amazingly fucked up as I thought (or if it was just me). And they most certainly didn't disappoint...a completely over the top, intense performance, with the Strange Trips folks casting a heavily multi-layered light show over the whole thing. Every song they did, even if it started out spacey and quiet would just keep building in intensity to an amazing crescendo of psychedelic noise (it's a wonder I survived the Strange Daze show). All members of this band are incredible, and there were great moments by all, but Dr. Synth again impressed me the most. He kept up this incredible wash of synth sounds, and actually drove the band along with his analog swirls. One of the best shows I've seen in years, and I'm at a point where the Aliens are my favorite live band to see (can't think of ANYONE putting out this kind of intensity these daze)... Another great time with special thanks going out to all the bands who travelled far and wide to appear, the Orion Sound Studios in Baltimore for being totally cool by having shows like this, and Jim Lascko and Strange Trips for the best light show on the planet (and also for putting on the Strange Daze Space Music festival this summer...truly one of the highlights of the past few years). A fantastic evening, and I hope these fests continue for years to come!!! If you want more information, follow these links: Alien Planetscapes: http://www.uniflex.net/~borntogo/ap_01.html Born to Go: http://www.uniflex.net/~borntogo/btg.html Quarkspace: http://users.aol.com/quarkspace/qspace.htm Strange Trips: http://www.now-online.com/jmfinity/about.htm Orion Sound Studios: http://www.progrock.net/shows/showcase/ ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Oct 7 13:44:12 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 18:44:12 +0100 Subject: OFF: Motorhead / Monster Magnet Message-ID: Another day, another press release, but this sounds like an interesting one; "Slab Recordings/CMC International will be releasing the best hard music compilation of 1998 on October 27th, ECW: Extreme Music. The record features today's top hard rock/heavy metal artists covering songs you love. The record will be tied into ECW (Extreme Championship Wrestling) and the songs on this record will become the theme songs for many of the ECW's biggest stars including Sabu, Sandman, Van Dam, Taz, Shane Douglas, Bam Bam Bigelow and many more. Here are the artists and songs: Megadeth Truth (ECW Instrumental Mix) White Zombie El Phantasmo And The Chicken Run Blast-O-Rama Kilgore Walk Bruce Dickinson The Zoo Motorhead Enter Sandman Grinspoon Snap Your Fingers, Snap Your Neck Anthrax Phantom Lord Tres Diablos (featuring Dimebag Darrell, Vinnie Paul & Rex) Heard It On The X Monster Magnet Kick Out The Jams Muscadine Big Balls Harry Slash & The Slashtones This Is Extreme (ECW Theme) & Huka Blues" Z NP Deep Purple - Live 1/10/98 ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Oct 7 16:25:36 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 21:25:36 +0100 Subject: Bedouin & Motorhead, London In-Reply-To: <31856.3116772375@mac007.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > Anyone going to Motorhead at Brixton Academy on the 17th? > Anyone going to Bedouin at where-ever-it-is on the 14th? Yeah, probably. Even though Calexico are on on the 14th too... but they're only third on the bill after Vic Chesnutt and Lambchop, and they're bound to be back, headlining, before long! Bedouin are at West One Four in the North End Road. Used to be the Orange. - Andy ObCD: Iggy & the Stooges - _Raw Power_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From chrisr at TIAC.NET Wed Oct 7 16:33:33 1998 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:33:33 -0400 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles Message-ID: wandering-star wrote: > There are 3 different cd versions of 'Live Chronicles'. > > The best is US release on Griffin, the mastering is better and it has > all the Moorcock spoken word tracks that aren't on the 2 Castle > Communications releases. > Rich As I recently noted: I just came back from the CD store in Manchester, NH USA and this is they currently have in stock for Hawkwind: Live Chronicles (Griffin) 2 CD's GCDHA 0-136-2 $24.99 Zones (Griffin) GCDHA 164-2 $14.99 Quark, Strangeness and Charm (Griffin - Box set cover) 162-2 $12.99 Ambient Anarchists (Snapper) 2CD's SMD CD 121 (I forgot the price!) Friend & Relations - Cosmic Travellers Vol.6 (Anagram) CDMGram 105 (Iforgot to price this too!) If anyone is interested in any of these, let me know. Chris -- From mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM Wed Oct 7 17:29:05 1998 From: mpower at CICG-DEV.ETSD.ML.COM (Marc Power) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 17:29:05 -0400 Subject: B0RN to G0 open at a benefit for Khan - Lion's Den Monday October 12th NYC Message-ID: Cozmic Greetingz SpaceRockerz, Khan, our buddy who works at the Lion's Den (Sullivan Street, NYC) got himself banged up pretty bad in a car accident. The experience has left him with massive medical bills, which he can't cover. In order to help him out, his friends are organizing a benefit gig on his home turf, the Lion's Den, all proceeds to go to Khan. Here are the details: Date: Monday 12th October - First band on at 8pm sharp Place: Lion's Den, 214 Sullivan Street, NYC (212 477 2782) between Bleecker and W3rd Schedule: Five incredible bands! Including SpaceRock upstarts B0RN to G0! 8:00 B0RN to G0 9:00 Cows in the Graveyard (from Cleveland) 10:00 Weedkiller 11:00 Chucka Riddim 12:00 Plastic Holiday Please come and support our efforts. Replicate this posting wherever it would be effective but please don't turn it into SPAM. Cheers! Marc Power (B0RN to G0) From wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Oct 7 18:31:43 1998 From: wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM (wandering-star) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 23:31:43 +0100 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles Message-ID: Hmm.. You got me there Jill... They're tracks from the albums castle licenced I think, the blurb said uncle Dave picked them out. Theres a little disclaimer on the back saying that the acid daze tracks were selected for their historical importance...smirk..and not QUALITY smirk ;-) hehe. It has to be said castle must have spent 15 quid on the packaging. It's very nice. I hope this is the end of the line for these trax, theyve been on so many compilations now it's ridiculous. Rich From drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Oct 7 19:35:41 1998 From: drtorgo at HOTMAIL.COM (Torgo Sedler) Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 16:35:41 PDT Subject: BOC: on KGB Message-ID: Hey Kids! Nick said.... >How is KGB these days? I usually listen to WAAL when I go back up >there...it's all classic rock, as opposed to KGB's AOR format which, >last time I listened, was starting to include too much alternative. WAAL is a pretty good station overall, but they just don't... get it. They take a good band, pick 2 tracks by them, and those are the only 2 songs they ever play by them. Whenever they announce what bands are coming up, I can predict the entire song list by what songs are "WAAL songs" or not. They sound great when you first tune in, but on a day to day basis they make you want to wheeze your cheerios. KGB does not play as much alternative as they used to, and when they do they seem to be hitting the bands I don't mind so much, like Days of the New, etc. I think they are pound for pound your best music bet while in the area dude. I have heard LIVE FOR ME on KGB about 10 times now this week. I even heard them play "I Love the Night" once on a request. Ok, now the real reason for yet another peek from the lurkers gallery from me...... I was in Binghamton last night, and I had just gotten out of the NHL preseason game at the Arena where I saw the Panthers slap the Sabres around for 3 periods (Boooooo). I was getting ready to leave the arena when I noticed the car in front of me. It was a red Talon with Pennsylvania plates that read "BOCULT". By any chance, was that someone from this list? As for saturdays gig, it is looking worse and worse that I will be able to swing it (RATS). If I do make it, it will be a last minute thing and I will be running late. Theo of course knows me, but just in case I do make it there to meet you Nick I will make it easy to spot me by wearing my RUSH COUNTERPARTS jersey. Theo will be the guy standing as far away from me as possible. HA! ;^) Lurk Mode On Torgo has left the building....... *********************************************** Torgo at norwich.net DrTorgo at hotmail.com http://welcome.to/torgos *********************************************** ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM Thu Oct 8 02:16:23 1998 From: shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 07:16:23 +0100 Subject: HW:Bedouin & Motorhead, London Message-ID: Me & our lass are off to Motorhead at Brixton Academy on the 17th. Neil. From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Thu Oct 8 00:27:15 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 04:27:15 +0000 Subject: BOC: on KGB Message-ID: > week. I even heard them play "I Love the Night" once on a request. That's ironic...about 10 years ago I called and BEGGED them for "Fireworks"...they refused! > when I noticed the car in front of me. It was a red Talon with > Pennsylvania plates that read "BOCULT". > > By any chance, was that someone from this list? I wish. > As for saturdays gig, it is looking worse and worse that I will be able > to swing it (RATS). If I do make it, it will be a last minute thing and > I will be running late. Theo of course knows me, but just in case I do > make it there to meet you Nick I will make it easy to spot me by wearing > my RUSH COUNTERPARTS jersey. Theo will be the guy standing as far away > from me as possible. HA! ;^) All right...I'll be wearing a black Ultraman T-shirt and black jeans, and again, I have long black hair, thin beard and mustache, and I will be with a friend who I predict will be the biggest man in the bar (He usually is, wherever we go). He's well over six feet tall and 300-something pounds...he's got glasses, short black hair and a beard and mustache. Last time I saw BOC, I had just seen them, and the set was way too Buck-heavy and I was a little brought down overall. But it's been a few years, and I'm getting pretty psyched. -- Nick From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Oct 8 04:40:10 1998 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 04:40:10 EDT Subject: HW: CDs on sale from NG Message-ID: From: scarabrec at aol.com (Scarab Rec) Date: Fri, Oct 2, 1998 15:22 EDT Message-id: <19981002152209.07221.00001317 at ng106.aol.com> Hawkwind-Undisclosed Files Addendum,great collection of the classics, Griffin,US.......$8.00 Early Daze-nice live comp. of songs from their 1st two years,7 tracks, DemiMonde,UK......$8.00 Hawklords-Live,recorded live in 78',Griffin,US.....$8.00 Out+Intake-13 tracks,Griffin,US....................$8.00 Area54-four new songs,95' release,EmergencyBroadcastSystem,UK...$5.00 Mighty Hawkwind Classics-1980-85,12 tracks,Griffin,US....$7.00 Church Of..-94'release,15 tracks,new stuff!,Griffin,US....$8.00 Electric Tepee-78 minutes long,93'release,Griffin,US......$8.00 It Is The Business Of The Future To Be Dangerous-12 tracks,94' release, Griffin,US....$8.00 The Business Trip ''Live'',15 tracks,recorded on UK tour in 93',Griffin, US.....$8.00 Zones-comp.12 tracks,Griffin,US...........$8.00 25 Years On-77-86,15 tracks on this collection,Griffin,US....$8.00 25 Years On-87-94,12 track collection,Griffin,US......$8.00 Friends&Relations,The Rarities-15 tracks,Griffin,US...$6.00 Best Of Hawkwind,Friends&Relations-16 tracks of Hawkwind,solo projects +more,Griffin,US....$6.00 ALL CD'S ARE NEW NEVER PLAYED,SOME MAY HAVE TORN SHRINK WRAP OR CRACKED JEWELCASE.THESE ARE LEFT OVERS FROM A STORE THAT CLOSED! E-MAIL TO RESERVE ScarabRec at aol.com <<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Oct 8 04:42:01 1998 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 04:42:01 EDT Subject: HW: LPs for sale on NG Message-ID: bject: FS: Hawkwind on vinyl ! From: wyzdom at skypoint.com (Mark Nesser) Date: Mon, Sep 28, 1998 00:31 EDT Message-id: <6un3eu$pp1$11 at shadow.skypoint.net> CD's are convenient and boring. Vinyl is art and a piece of history! Records also make an original gift! I have some cool Hawkwind LP's for sale ! If you're a serious buyer and are ready to buy,e-mail me for a list! I have been selling through my web site for almost 2 years now,and I have lots of happy customers! Mark Nesser wyzdom at skypoint.com http://www.skypoint.com/~wyzdom/ I have not updated the LP lists on my web site for a while,that's why I e-mail my LP lists. From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Thu Oct 8 06:29:27 1998 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:29:27 +0100 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles In-Reply-To: <361BEBCE.7AD420A5@geocities.com> Message-ID: OK, I missed the beginning of this, are we talking about Live Chronicles or the new Castle release of 2CD Anthology which title escapes me. I saw this in the shops today and it looks like the usual culprits, with some stuff from live 79, buisiness trip and other 'proper albums' as an added 7 track bonus. M On Wed, 7 Oct 1998, wandering-star wrote: > They're tracks from the albums castle licenced I think, the blurb said > uncle Dave picked them out. Theres a little disclaimer on the back > saying that the acid daze tracks were selected for their historical > importance...smirk..and not QUALITY smirk ;-) hehe. > > It has to be said castle must have spent 15 quid on the packaging. It's > very nice. I hope this is the end of the line for these trax, theyve > been on so many compilations now it's ridiculous. > > Rich > From wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Oct 8 07:12:06 1998 From: wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM (wandering-star) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:12:06 +0100 Subject: HW:Was Live Chronicles(Now Anthology reissue) Message-ID: Well it started as Live Chronicles, and now it's anthology..hehe...no its both ;-) I didn't look what the bonus trax were on either the castle reissue of Live Chronicles, or The Anthology reissue. Anyone care to pop into a record shop and enlighten us about the track listings. Rich ObCDR: All About Eve - D for Desire From wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Oct 8 07:14:39 1998 From: wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM (wandering-star) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:14:39 +0100 Subject: OFF: Free Access UK Message-ID: Just out of interest.. You can now get a free internet connection from www.connectfree.net I've been trying it out and it seems to be ok, better than paying a tenner a month... Of course you have to find yourself free email+webspace but thats not hard. Rich From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Oct 8 07:25:13 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 07:25:13 EDT Subject: BOC: on KGB In-Reply-To: <19981007233542.4204.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: > From: Torgo Sedler > > > As for saturdays gig, it is looking worse and worse that I will be able > to swing it (RATS). If I do make it, it will be a last minute thing and > I will be running late. Theo of course knows me, but just in case I do > make it there to meet you Nick I will make it easy to spot me by wearing > my RUSH COUNTERPARTS jersey. Theo will be the guy standing as far away > from me as possible. HA! ;^) > I'll be the guy that looks like everybody's wastrel uncle! Actually, this gig might be a problem for me too. Anyone know what time BOC will go on? I figure around 11PM, that's about usual for bar gigs. I probably won't be able to leave Syra. 'til around 930 or so. I guess it depends upon how Friday's show goes. If they totally kick ass, I might skip Sat.'s show. But if I can get out of here at a good hour, then for sure I'll make it. Brian, can you tell me the best way to get to the Roch. gig? Anyone else going Friday? theo From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Thu Oct 8 08:36:26 1998 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (LN1GJT) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:36:26 +0000 Subject: HW:Was Live Chronicles(Now Anthology reissue) In-Reply-To: <361C9E06.616C9D09@geocities.com> Message-ID: Rich writes: >Well it started as Live Chronicles, and now it's anthology..hehe...no >its both ;-) > >I didn't look what the bonus trax were on either the castle reissue of >Live Chronicles, or The Anthology reissue. Anyone care to pop into a >record shop and enlighten us about the track listings. > >Rich I was in HMV on Oxford St. last month, and they have a CD listening facility. Anyhow, I checked out the new re-issue of Live Chronicles, and surprise surprise............well, there were NO surprises! All re-issued stuff! I can't recall, but maybe one or two of the trax were from the BBC 1988 "In-concert". Needless to say, I didn't bother parting with my hard earned 15 quid! Guy From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Oct 8 08:07:02 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 13:07:02 +0100 Subject: Bedouin & Motorhead, London Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 7, 1998 9:25 pm +0100 "Andy Gilham" wrote: >> Anyone going to Motorhead at Brixton Academy on the 17th? >> Anyone going to Bedouin at where-ever-it-is on the 14th? > > Yeah, probably. Even though Calexico are on on the 14th too... but they're > only third on the bill after Vic Chesnutt and Lambchop, and they're bound to > be back, headlining, before long! Very well--I believe myself and the not-yet-resubscribed Jon Jarrett will be appearing at both ... Anna will at Motorhead in Brixton, perhaps? not being able to make the 14th, I gather. A Cantabrigian will march (or die) on down, in anycase :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Oct 8 09:37:01 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:37:01 +0100 Subject: BOC: X-Ray Eyes Message-ID: You know that line "In the fifties, Ray Milland..." Anyway, the film came out in 1963. But maybe it was set in the past... :) - Andy ObCD: The Mutton Birds: _Envy of Angels_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Thu Oct 8 09:46:19 1998 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 09:46:19 -0400 Subject: BOC: on KGB Message-ID: >That's ironic...about 10 years ago I called and BEGGED them for "Fireworks"...they refused! Refused to play an Albert song that they either hardly ever or never played live before? Not surprising! > when I noticed the car in front of me. It was a red Talon with > Pennsylvania plates that read "BOCULT". I recently saw a blue pickup in the Burlington, Mass. area with Mass. plates with the exact same lettering! >Last time I saw BOC, I had just seen them, and the set was way too Buck-heavy and I was a little brought down overall. But it's been a few years, and I'm getting pretty psyched. Set is still somewhat "Buck-heavy", although not as much as about a year or two ago when Eric barely sang at all. It's closer to a 50-50 split now - maybe 60-40 Buck to Eric singing. John From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Oct 8 10:04:17 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:04:17 EDT Subject: BOC: on KGB In-Reply-To: <199810081346.JAA22499@mbunix.mitre.org> Message-ID: > From: John A Swartz > > >Last time I saw BOC, I had just seen them, and the set was way too > Buck-heavy and I was a little brought down overall. But it's been a > few years, and I'm getting pretty psyched. > > Set is still somewhat "Buck-heavy", although not as much as about a year > or two ago when Eric barely sang at all. It's closer to a 50-50 split > now - maybe 60-40 Buck to Eric singing. > You're right. When I saw them in New Hartford a couple months ago it was pretty much 50-50. But Nick, you should try to catch this gig. They're pretty hot right now. the NH gig was boffo. Incredible rendition of Flaming Telepaths--worth seeing the show just for that. Current setlist is full of cool stuff: Telepaths Buck's Boogie TCtLDoM LItH and of course the HF tunes. I'm thinking that the Sat. show may be the better one. They're playing someplace in the midwest on thurs., then the Rochester show Fri. Band could be travel-burned for Friday's gig. Still hoping to see both! theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Oct 8 10:07:23 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:07:23 EDT Subject: BOC: X-Ray Eyes In-Reply-To: <000901bdf2c0$bab66480$ae3f63c3@default> Message-ID: > From: Andy Gilham > You know that line "In the fifties, Ray Milland..." Anyway, the film came > out in 1963. But maybe it was set in the past... :) > > - Andy I think the feel of the lyrics is more toward the 50s. I think the lyrics kind of remind me of the McCarthy witch hunts. Don't look too hard into others' lives, as you may not want the info. that you get. Ever notice that a lot of the lyrics on HF deal with paranoia? Or maybe it's just ME that's paranoid, and I'm seeing that imagery in the lyrics... theo From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Thu Oct 8 10:15:37 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:15:37 -0400 Subject: BOC: on KGB Message-ID: > the NH gig was boffo. Incredible > rendition of Flaming Telepaths--worth seeing the show just for that. > > Was that the Lancaster Fair gig? What was it like? (length, setlist, > snafu's) > I was going to go, but ended up being sick instead. From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Oct 8 10:21:33 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:21:33 +0100 Subject: BOC: X-Ray Eyes In-Reply-To: <2C9EE7165E@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: The movie with an ending so horrifying it was cut and never restored... > Ever notice that a lot of the lyrics on HF deal with paranoia? Or > maybe it's just ME that's paranoid, and I'm seeing that imagery in > the lyrics... > Oh, the paranoia is definitely there - blame John Shirley. "Hammer Back" may be the most explicitly paranoid... "Step into a world of strangers/Into a sea of unknowns/Even friends, potential dangers..." Leaving aside the lame rhyming of "stranger" with "danger", that's about as paranoid a lyric I've heard, at least since that Girlschool song with the refrain of "Out to get you, out to get you"... - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Thu Oct 8 06:27:15 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:27:15 +0000 Subject: BOC: X-Ray Eyes Message-ID: > > You know that line "In the fifties, Ray Milland..." Anyway, the film came > > out in 1963. But maybe it was set in the past... :) > > > > - Andy > I think the feel of the lyrics is more toward the 50s. I think the > lyrics kind of remind me of the McCarthy witch hunts. Don't look too > hard into others' lives, as you may not want the info. that you get. > Ever notice that a lot of the lyrics on HF deal with paranoia? Or > maybe it's just ME that's paranoid, and I'm seeing that imagery in > the lyrics... > > theo I think the lyrics are a pretty straight interpretation of the film. The guy went mad because he saw things he wasn't meant to see, etc. I'd hate to start a fresh round of Shirley-bashing, but I guess I could see him getting the decade wrong, just out of sloppiness or apathy. -- Nick From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 8 10:35:33 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:35:33 +0100 Subject: HW:Was Live Chronicles(Now Anthology reissue) In-Reply-To: wandering-star's message of Thu, 8 Oct 1998 12:12:06 +0100 Message-ID: wandering-star writes: > Well it started as Live Chronicles, and now it's anthology..hehe...no > its both ;-) > > I didn't look what the bonus trax were on either the castle reissue of > Live Chronicles, or The Anthology reissue. Anyone care to pop into a > record shop and enlighten us about the track listings. I have the package but I've been too busy with start of term stuff and preparing for a deflationary depression to do important stuff like keeping the Codex up to date. Apologies all round. I'll get to it soon. FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 8 10:38:41 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 15:38:41 +0100 Subject: new hawktracks Message-ID: Got a C&D booklet today. News is: Hawk&Elf CD due very soon. Two new Hawktrax due on a Pink Floyd tribute CD + book package including an Interstellar Overdrive cover (didn't Nik fo one of those on something similar recently?). A band called Doctor Hasbeen are releasing a couple of CDs including Hawkwind covers. Hawkwind In Your Area is Due out New Anubian Lights CD due out. FoFP From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Thu Oct 8 10:51:04 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:51:04 -0400 Subject: new hawktracks Message-ID: >Two new Hawktrax due on a Pink Floyd tribute CD + book package including >an Interstellar Overdrive cover (didn't Nik fo one of those on something >similar recently?). Yeah, "careful with that axe eugene." But I don't remember the name of the disc. rj From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Oct 8 11:03:27 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:03:27 +0100 Subject: BOC: X-Ray Eyes Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 8, 1998 3:21 pm +0100 "Andy Gilham" wrote: > Oh, the paranoia is definitely there - blame John Shirley. "Hammer Back" > may be the most explicitly paranoid... "Step into a world of strangers/Into > a sea of unknowns/Even friends, potential dangers..." Leaving aside the > lame rhyming of "stranger" with "danger", that's about as paranoid a lyric > I've heard, at least since that Girlschool song with the refrain of "Out to > get you, out to get you"... I pick Motohead's "Over Your Shoulder" for some good paranoia :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Thu Oct 8 11:03:09 1998 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:03:09 -0500 Subject: new hawktracks Message-ID: > Two new Hawktrax due on a Pink Floyd tribute CD + book package including > an Interstellar Overdrive cover (didn't Nik fo one of those on something > similar recently?). Nik did _Careful With That Axe, Eugene_ on _A Saucerful Of Pink_ (CLEO9551). Frank --- What happens if a big asteroid hits the Earth? Judging from realistic simulations involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog, we can assume it will be pretty bad. -- Dave Barry, "Well Dressed for Disaster" ============================================================ Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Oct 8 11:42:45 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 16:42:45 +0100 Subject: OFFish: Classic Rock magazine Message-ID: In a railway station waiting for a connection (Sheffield to be exact), went for a wander in a newsagent and found one solitary copy of a magazine called Classic Rock. I normally wouldn't have looked as it had Guns n Roses on the cover, but there was a CD attached so I picked it up and blow me down, it was a bit good. The CD had Blackfoot, So!, Humble Pie, Judas Priest, Robin Trower, Orange Goblin, Uriah Heep, Marillion, Y&T, Greg Lake and one of these new Iron Maiden multimedia hoo-has. And the magazine looks pretty useful as well - Marillion/Steve Hackett interviews. Loads of reviews. An article on the new prog. Well worth ?2.50 of anyones money. OFFish - well it does review the rerelease of 'Live Chronicles'. Z NP Blackfoot - Rattlesnake Rock'n'Roller [live] yee and indeed ha ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Oct 8 11:43:57 1998 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:43:57 EDT Subject: OFF: audio generator Message-ID: Does anyone have information on the audio generator that was discussed on BOC- L a few months back? Thanks in advance. regards, Bill Stewart From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Oct 8 12:04:37 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:04:37 +0100 Subject: OFFish: Classic Rock magazine Message-ID: --On Thu, Oct 8, 1998 4:42 pm +0100 zeitgeist-scot wrote: > In a railway station waiting for a connection (Sheffield to be exact), went > for a wander in a newsagent and found one solitary copy of a magazine > called Classic Rock. Yup--one of my friends in the Cambridge Rock Soc picked it up and lent it too me. It was good fun, and no more crap than one might expect of newsstand mag fare :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Oct 8 12:05:27 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:05:27 +0100 Subject: OFF: audio generator Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 8, 1998 11:43 am +0000 "Bill Stewart" wrote: > Does anyone have information on the audio generator that was discussed on BOC- > L a few months back? Thanks in advance. Actually, I'm interested in that info too--and friend wanted the URL and I've lost it! -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 8 12:08:09 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 17:08:09 +0100 Subject: new hawktracks In-Reply-To: Frank Weil's message of Thu, 8 Oct 1998 10:03:09 -0500 Message-ID: Frank Weil writes: > > Two new Hawktrax due on a Pink Floyd tribute CD + book package including > > an Interstellar Overdrive cover (didn't Nik fo one of those on something > > similar recently?). > > Nik did _Careful With That Axe, Eugene_ on _A Saucerful Of Pink_ (CLEO9551). Some ex-hawk did "Interstellar Overdrive" on something. Was it Simon House then? > Frank FoFP From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Thu Oct 8 14:52:46 1998 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 20:52:46 +0200 Subject: SV: new hawktracks Message-ID: Hi there! >Got a C&D booklet today. News is: > >Hawk&Elf CD due very soon. Out in mid-october with any luck (and Peace of Mind will stock it). > >Two new Hawktrax due on a Pink Floyd tribute CD + book package including >an Interstellar Overdrive cover (didn't Nik fo one of those on something >similar recently?). > >A band called Doctor Hasbeen are releasing a couple of CDs including >Hawkwind covers. Got five (different ones) of them this very day actually, directly from the Doctor himself. Haven?t heard them yet, hopefully it?ll be done tomorrow. > >Hawkwind In Your Area is Due out > >New Anubian Lights CD due out. > > > >FoFP > Hawkswede From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Oct 8 14:27:09 1998 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:27:09 -0700 Subject: OFF: audio generator Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:43:57 EDT, Bill Stewart asked: >Does anyone have information on the audio generator that was >discussed on BOC-L a few months back? Thanks in advance. No problem: http://members.rotfl.com/soundshimmer/triwave.html or email: Dan Green or phone: 314-771-1096 The great thing about the device in question (named 'Triwave Picogenerator' by its creator) is that it's a DUAL audio generator with TRIPLE LFO modulators, so you can get great spacerock sound fx or even lengthy cyclical warbling oscillations. If you get in touch with Dan, tell him I said "hi". Speaking of audio generators, a couple months ago I was cleaning up trash in the vacant lot next to the building I live in ... in addition to the bibles and prayerbooks that I found where the homeless preacher had been living out of his van, and the large-sized high-heeled shoes that turned up near the car where the homeless transvestite had been living, deep in the uncut grass, I found an ancient (50s? 60s?) Philco vaccum-tube signal generator. Unfortunately, it looks fairly trashed (but not destroyed), and uses weird-sized batteries that I can't identify. But if I can ever manage to get it working, it would be the coolest, most vintage, audio generator imaginable! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Oct 8 14:33:17 1998 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 11:33:17 -0700 Subject: HW: Magic Muscle for sale Message-ID: On Sat, 3 Oct 1998 01:47:37 EDT, Chuck Rosenberg wrote: >Hi, folks. I got ahold of Magic Muscle's "One Hundred Miles Below"--I'm >listening to it now and am pretty disappointed; it's pretty much commercial >(by HW standards) hardrock, from what I've heard so far... > >I'm selling this, and since it seems like a fairly rare record, I'm asking >$16, ppd. > >Here are the details: >Magic Muscle"One Hundred Miles Below" >One Big Guitar Records >OBG-LP 90051989 >Mint-condition >Notes: Studioized from a live recording in '88. >Players: Rod Goodway, Huw Gower, Ade Shaw, Twink, House ... a pretty fair critical assessment of the record (although I love pretty much anything with Simon House playing violin ... even the Bowie and Japan stuff!). The Magic Muscle album to get is 'The Pipe, the Roar and the Grid', which is the only one that contains original-era 1970s recordings by the band (including Simon guesting on some tracks). This pressing of 'One Hundred Miles Below' may be fairly rare (don't really know for certain), but the US pressing on Skyclad records is not - it was definitely over-pressed on both vinyl and CD, so it's one of those "pay no more than $5" records in either format. BTW I got vinyl copies of 'The Pipe...' and one other Magic Muscle LP at Strange Daze for $10 each. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Oct 8 13:53:06 1998 From: wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM (wandering-star) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 18:53:06 +0100 Subject: new hawktracks Message-ID: Wasn't the disc with covers floyd covers on called 'Saucer full of Pink' on Cleopatra! Rich From wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Oct 8 16:34:33 1998 From: wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM (wandering-star) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 21:34:33 +0100 Subject: OFF: audio generator Message-ID: I've asked a couple of shops in Newcastle to build me audio generators in the past. The result was alot of piss taking. I didn't think it was that funny...;-) Still got my MOOG Prodigy for sale though, thats like two audio gens tagged together. Rich ObCD: La Femme Nikita OST From john.m.gray at MCI2000.COM Thu Oct 8 17:02:59 1998 From: john.m.gray at MCI2000.COM (john.m.gray) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:02:59 -0700 Subject: LPs for sale on NG Message-ID: Please email me your Hawkwind vinyl list. Thanks, John Gray -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Rosenberg To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Thursday, October 08, 1998 1:46 AM Subject: HW: LPs for sale on NG >bject: FS: Hawkwind on vinyl ! >From: wyzdom at skypoint.com (Mark Nesser) >Date: Mon, Sep 28, 1998 00:31 EDT >Message-id: <6un3eu$pp1$11 at shadow.skypoint.net> > >CD's are convenient and boring. Vinyl is art and a piece of history! >Records also make an original gift! >I have some cool Hawkwind LP's for sale ! >If you're a serious buyer and are ready to buy,e-mail me for a list! >I have been selling through my web site for almost 2 years now,and I >have lots of happy customers! >Mark Nesser >wyzdom at skypoint.com > >http://www.skypoint.com/~wyzdom/ >I have not updated the LP lists on my web site for a while,that's >why I e-mail my LP lists. From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Thu Oct 8 13:26:12 1998 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:26:12 +0200 Subject: new hawktracks Message-ID: M Holmes schrieb: > Frank Weil writes: > > > > Two new Hawktrax due on a Pink Floyd tribute CD + book package including > > > an Interstellar Overdrive cover (didn't Nik fo one of those on something > > > similar recently?). > > > > Nik did _Careful With That Axe, Eugene_ on _A Saucerful Of Pink_ (CLEO9551). > > Some ex-hawk did "Interstellar Overdrive" on something. Was it Simon > House then? > Yes, Spiral Realms (a.k.a. Simon House) did a studio version on A Saucerful and a live one on their Solar Wind CD. The Smell of Incense also covered it on their album All mimsy were the Borogroves a few years ago, titled as (The Smell of) Interstellar Overdrive. And just recently Pseudo Sun included about 20 seconds of I.O. during their set in Jonkoping. Andreas From john.m.gray at MCI2000.COM Thu Oct 8 17:11:51 1998 From: john.m.gray at MCI2000.COM (john.m.gray) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:11:51 -0700 Subject: Way Off Subject Message-ID: To the UK subscribers, My daughter is wanting a beanie baby called "Britannia" available in the UK. The War Department (read wife) wants to know if any of you can find out the price and where to get it. I fail to see the big deal about these beanie baby things, but then the wife fails to see the big deal about HW (go figure!) so it is hard to argue. Anyway, any help will be appreciated. Thanks, John -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adawson at CLARA.NET Thu Oct 8 14:15:45 1998 From: adawson at CLARA.NET (Andrew Dawson) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:15:45 +0100 Subject: OFF: audio generator In-Reply-To: <261561.3116855127@mac010.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 17:05 08/10/98 +0100, you wrote: >On Thu, Oct 8, 1998 11:43 am +0000 "Bill Stewart" >wrote: >> Does anyone have information on the audio generator that was discussed on >BOC- L a few months back? Thanks in advance. > >Actually, I'm interested in that info too--and friend wanted the >URL and I've lost it! > >Carl Edlund Anderson The Triwave synthesiser http://members.rotfl.com/soundshimmer/triwave.html Andy Andrew Dawson adawson at clara.net Into Hawkwind ? Then check out the Worldwide discography. http://home.clara.net/adawson From adawson at CLARA.NET Thu Oct 8 14:37:20 1998 From: adawson at CLARA.NET (Andrew Dawson) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 19:37:20 +0100 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19981007172038.007a9e50@pop.dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: At 17:20 07/10/98 +0100, you wrote: >Well, I've got three versions. The original, the Castle reissue and the >latest with bonus CD. The Chronicles set has stayed the same over the >releases I have and the track listing is on the Hawkwind page of my e-zine. > Click below, then choose Record Hunter. The latest is probably the best >because you get the bonus CD and it's at mid-price. > >Z Hi folks, thought you might be interested in these little gems. Just received 2 "mastering reference" CD roms of Live Chronicles and the bonus CD. The discs have no labels just handwritten artist and title in felt tip pen with a recording date given as 26.7.98. The sleeves are printed gatefolds with disc information on the front and track listing on the reverse. Disc 1 Client: Renaissance Artist: Hawkwind Title: 'Live Chronicles' Cat No: CCSCD829 Type: CD Ref Date 26/7/1998 CD-10929-14294 Disc 2 Client: Renaissance Artist: Hawkwind Title: 'Live Chronicles Bonus CD' Cat No: CCSCD829 Type: CD Ref Date 26/7/1998 CD-10928-14295 The tracks are identical to the commercial release the only difference being that the track times listed are correct unlike the commercial release where they are way out. The discs were produced by Chop Em Out Trinity Mews London W10 6JA Andy Andrew Dawson adawson at clara.net Into Hawkwind ? Then check out the Worldwide discography. http://home.clara.net/adawson From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 8 18:41:04 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:41:04 +0100 Subject: Way Off Subject In-Reply-To: john.m.gray's message of Thu, 8 Oct 1998 14:11:51 -0700 Message-ID: john.m.gray writes: > To the UK subscribers, > > My daughter is wanting a beanie baby called "Britannia" available in the = > UK. The War Department (read wife) wants to know if any of you can find = > out the price and where to get it. I fail to see the big deal about = > these beanie baby things, but then the wife fails to see the big deal = > about HW (go figure!) so it is hard to argue. Anyway, any help will be = > appreciated. =20 Hoo boy - am I really getting out of touch with the world these days! Wot on earth is a beanie baby? However it sounds just like the kind of thing Toys R Us ought to stock. yrs growing old ungracefully jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Oct 8 23:56:45 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:56:45 -0400 Subject: Way Off Subject In-Reply-To: <199810082241.XAA10212@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Jill admits: => Hoo boy - am I really getting out of touch with the world these days! => Wot on earth is a beanie baby? Maybe not so out of touch, as this may only be a crazy American phenomenon. Anyway, they are little stuffed bean-bag toys. The catch with them is that, for some reason, they became incredibly kollectible, and, when then manufacturer, Ty, latched onto this, they fanned the flames by deliberately "retiring" certain models (all of which have cutesy names), thereby limiting their availability and driving up the prices. And the prices can get real crazy---from tens, to hundreds, to, yes, even *thousands* of dollars each (assuming you haven't let yer kid play with it and taken off the label:). Apparently, there are zillions of Beanie Baby collector/fan sites on the Internet. I read in my local newspaper recently, though, that the market may have peaked, and that their value may be about to crash, soon. => However it sounds just like the kind of thing Toys R Us ought to stock. I dunno about Toys R Us; it seems like Antique Malls are a better bet. ;-) Of course, the little blighters pulled McDonalds' arse out of the fire, when they started giving them away free as promotions... In this instance, Jill, I'd say ignorance is bliss. ;-) Cheers, Paul. NP: The Bevis Frond, _Sprawl_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Besides, doesn't he wear the hallowed strip; The same one that you pay way over the odds for, And doubtless will again next season. Do you know how much those shirts cost to make? Three quid, tops, probably way less..." --- The Bevis Frond, "The Pips," _North Circular_ From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Fri Oct 9 01:36:25 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 05:36:25 +0000 Subject: BOC: BINGO! Message-ID: Less than two days away from the Binghamton show, my first in a couple years! Getting a little more psyched by the day... One thing I've been grateful for over the last decade is that BOC seems to have cut out all the covers. To tell the truth, I always hated their choice of cover tunes...I was never a fan of the Doors, Animals etc. Steppenwolf is okay, but I just don't think anybody needs to hear "Born to be Wild" any more! Actually, the one cover that I did REALLY like was "Kick out the Jams" on SEE. But only because of what BOC did to it. I didn't care for the MC5, either. While on the sub. of live tunes...is there any chance that Hot Rails will ever sneak its way back in? The only live performances of that song I have witnessed are the version on ETL and Joe's performance at a Cult Brothers show about a million years ago. Boy, do I love that song! -- Nick From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Fri Oct 9 05:42:56 1998 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:42:56 +0200 Subject: HW: The Elf & the Hawk. Message-ID: Hi there! Just called the record-company who?s responsible for "The Elf & the Hawk" plus Standarte?s new epic CD "Stimmung" that they?re delayed a few weeks more due to problems with a CDbox just released, called " ...E tu vivrai nel terrore". I must say that the guy I spoke with ( Massio) was very friendly despite all the problems. Peace of mind records / Henrik ========================================================== Peace of Mind Records c/o Henrik Hallgren, Stapelv?gen 5, 856 34 Sundsvall, Sweden Email: pom at sundsvall.mail.telia.com Peace of mind records website: http://hem.passagen.se/hawkwind/ Fax +46 (0)70 6101310 / Phone +46 (0)70 6743729 From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Oct 9 06:48:44 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:48:44 +0100 Subject: HW: Bedouin in Manchester Message-ID: Anyone know if the Manchester gig is still on? I can't get through to the Night & Day Club - perhaps they are taking their name literally and just haven't woken up yet but it's been several days now. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Fri Oct 9 06:22:44 1998 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 05:22:44 -0500 Subject: Way Off Subject Message-ID: Paul Mather wrote: > Jill admits: > > => Hoo boy - am I really getting out of touch with the world these days! > => Wot on earth is a beanie baby? > > Maybe not so out of touch, as this may only be a crazy American > phenomenon. > --- The Bevis Frond, "The Pips," _North Circular_ Well it's definitely a Canadian phenomenon too, that's all my niece and nephew ask for these days :-). From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Fri Oct 9 08:47:32 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 08:47:32 -0400 Subject: BOC: NO ROCHESTER GIG! Message-ID: There is no BOC gig in Rochester tonight! I called Club Avalon to find out the ticket price and the two people I talked with said that BOC isn't playing there. I checked http://www.pollstar.com which had listed the date at Club Avalon and it no longer has any date *at all* for Rochester. Just to be sure they weren't playing somewhere else in town, I checked out Rochester's "Freetime" mag online, and they didn't list BOC as a band that was coming to town. (They had a DJ listed as working Club Avalon tonight.) Hopefully, since a Rochester gig is listed on the fan club site, they'll have a make-up date somewhere down the road. Everybody have fun at the Binghamton gig! I want a full report. Brian ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Oct 9 10:47:09 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:47:09 +0100 Subject: new hawktracks Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 8, 1998 7:26 pm +0200 Andreas wrote: > And just recently Pseudo Sun included about 20 seconds of I.O. during their > set in Jonkoping. Ah, yes, I thought I heard that in there! -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Oct 9 10:47:53 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:47:53 +0100 Subject: OFF: audio generator Message-ID: Thanks for the info! -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Oct 9 11:03:53 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:03:53 EDT Subject: avalon blues In-Reply-To: <70571.3116936873@mac015.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: Brian, Thanks for the update, even though it's bad news. I thought something was a little fishy, as last night's gig was way out in INdiana or Illinois, and I couldn't figure out how thew were gonna sleep and then drive all the way back here in time. Anyway, Brian, you saved me from making the long trip for nothing. Does this mean you're going to tomorrow's show in Binghamton? I'm going now even if it means missing a couple of songs... theo From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Fri Oct 9 11:16:47 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:16:47 -0400 Subject: BOC: avalon blues Message-ID: Unfortunately, I've already made plans for Saturday (of the most non-rocking variety.) I guess I'll just have to wait until the next time they swing through upstate. :-( Brian ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- >Brian, >Thanks for the update, even though it's bad news. >I thought something was a little fishy, as last night's gig was way >out in INdiana or Illinois, and I couldn't figure out how thew were >gonna sleep and then drive all the way back here in time. > >Anyway, Brian, you saved me from making the long trip for nothing. >Does this mean you're going to tomorrow's show in Binghamton? >I'm going now even if it means missing a couple of songs... > >theo From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Fri Oct 9 12:42:28 1998 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 11:42:28 -0500 Subject: HW: Stonehenge Clones and Metaphorms Message-ID: Hey! A list of possible sites for the next Hawkwind gig? ;-) Stonehenge Clones and Metaphorms http://www.luckymojo.com/stonehenge.html -- PERCEPTION You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are. - Herb Cohen From adawson at CLARA.NET Fri Oct 9 16:50:39 1998 From: adawson at CLARA.NET (Andrew Dawson) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 21:50:39 +0100 Subject: HW: Stonehenge Clones and Metaphorms In-Reply-To: <361E3CF4.A774A3AB@execpc.com> Message-ID: At 11:42 09/10/98 -0500, you wrote: >Hey! > >A list of possible sites for the next Hawkwind gig? ;-) > >Stonehenge Clones and Metaphorms >http://www.luckymojo.com/stonehenge.html > >-- What no Atomhenge !!!!! Shame on them :-) Andy Andrew Dawson adawson at clara.net Into Hawkwind ? Then check out the Worldwide discography. http://home.clara.net/adawson From wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Oct 9 17:37:56 1998 From: wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM (wandering-star) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 22:37:56 +0100 Subject: OFF:Ozrics Message-ID: Anyone heard that new Ozrics Live album? The one with the dodgy green goo ltd edition... Rich From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Sat Oct 10 02:51:09 1998 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff and Pam Wheaton) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 00:51:09 -0600 Subject: OFF:Ozrics Message-ID: wandering-star wrote: > Anyone heard that new Ozrics Live album? > > The one with the dodgy green goo ltd edition... > > Rich I'd sure like to!! I ordered this thing ages ago it sems-according to them (Snapper Records) It was sent the 4th of Sept. I was charged for it on the 8th of Sept. I have NOT recieved it yet. I've e-mailed them-the e-mails bounce. I'm getting really upset at this one. I'm really gonna be pissed if I have to order it elsewhere & pay twice.I hope it gets here soon. Pam -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton ____/----^----\____ The greatest tool >The Magic Muscle album to get is 'The Pipe, the Roar and the >Grid', which is the only one that contains original-era 1970s recordings by >the band (including Simon guesting on some tracks). There is also CD call Laughs&Thrills, which is live -72! No S.House, but there is A.Shaw. Magic Muscle- Laughs&Thrills (spm-wwr-cd-0021) Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From plamotte at SKYNET.BE Sat Oct 10 06:26:18 1998 From: plamotte at SKYNET.BE (Po) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 12:26:18 +0200 Subject: new hawktracks - Smell of incense gig In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The Smell of Incense, this band coming from Norway, are on tour at the end of October in Europe. They are making a special psychedelic music that inners your brain. Gigs in Liege (belgium) on the 23rd of October, in L'etoile du Nord, the north star (Doll-members : 150bef or about us$4.5, those that are not on the doll will pay 250bef-us$6.5) They also will play in Bastogne (Be) on the 24th of october, and many dates in germany. (infos : mail me) 'Free Marie-Jeanne' M Holmes schrieb: >> Frank Weil writes: >> >> > > Two new Hawktrax due on a Pink Floyd tribute CD + book package including >> > > an Interstellar Overdrive cover (didn't Nik fo one of those on something >> > > similar recently?). >> > >> > Nik did _Careful With That Axe, Eugene_ on _A Saucerful Of Pink_ >>(CLEO9551). >> >> Some ex-hawk did "Interstellar Overdrive" on something. Was it Simon >> House then? >> >Yes, Spiral Realms (a.k.a. Simon House) did a studio version on A >Saucerful and a >live one on their Solar Wind CD. >The Smell of Incense also covered it on their album All mimsy were the >Borogroves >a few years ago, titled as (The Smell of) Interstellar Overdrive. >And just recently Pseudo Sun included about 20 seconds of I.O. during >their set >in Jonkoping. > > >Andreas From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Sat Oct 10 07:37:57 1998 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 13:37:57 +0200 Subject: HW: Interview with Dave Brock Message-ID: A copy from: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Arena/9250/Hawkintr.htm Interview with Dave Brock of Hawkwind Music Street Journal:What do you see in the future for space rock? Dave Brock:I did hear Madonna`s major single which is called "Ray of Light". I said "who is this singer?" She`s using old sort of synthesizer sounds, a very nice sort of dancy trance sort of beat. Basically it sounds like space rock music. Afriend of mine phoned me up and said "you won`t believe it, but I heard Madonna`s new single and she`s gone into space rock music." Over here we have a lot of sort of dancey trance bands who are very influenced by us because of the old psychedelia sort of stuff that we did, and it`s nice actually. A lot of people have done samples of our stuff and rehashed them and put stuff out. It does make it quite interesting because therefore we`re in touch with the younger generation. I really like all that sort of music as well. I might be old, but really never lost touch with it all. So, maybe Madonna`s gonna set space rock up for us, who knows. Music Street Journal:What would you say the changes in the music of the band have been over the years? Dave Brock:Well, the changes are to do with different people. We`ve always had different people in and out of the band. Obviously, I`m the captain, it`s like aboard ship. We set our course and off we go. When Tim Blake was in the band, Tim Blake with his Gong influence brought a lot of nice spacey music. Each character who is in the band obviously brings in a little bit of speciality. All in all we still have our central sort of part of the ship. Which is sort of the good old electronics with the good beat behind it. Music Street Journal:The live show for Hawkwind is such a major experience. How would you describe it and what are your goals with it? Dave Brock:To actually be a multi sort of media. When we do a show, I always thought, "if someone pays some money to come into one of our gigs. The light show, everything has to be really together and good, so they go out thinking, that was a fantastic experience". That`s what we`re aiming for all the time. Obviously we use dancers and all sorts of different people working with us. The next show that we`re gonna do next year is gonna be the Ledge of Darkness and Death Generator. What we`re probably gonna do is get all the old members, which will be Lemmy, Simon House, Michael Moorcock, Nik Turner, Tim Blake, Harvey Bainbridge, Huy Lloyd Langton, to actually come and do a few numbers per night over the period of the tour. We can actually do the whole of the show of the Ledge of Darkness. It would be a continuing saga. It`s quite a lot to get together. Griffin Records put out the 25th anniversary 4 CD compilation. They did 4 CDs in this package with the comic book of the Ledge of Darkness, which was the old Michael Moorcock/Mike Butterworth 2 books, condensed down into a comic. It`s quite interesting. That`s what we`re gonna do. There`s a company over here that would like to do a cartoon of all this. The tour is the project for 1999. We`re not going to be doing much this year, except trying to get this organized for next year. We`ve got some young guys that do all the dance music over here that are really sort of into the light shows. It`s quite spectacular what they want to do. If all this comes together, it will be really something else. The last big show we did was Love in Space in 1995. We haven`t really done a proper show with a theme and a story line in a while. If all this comes together, hopefully a major label will take all this on board. It`s a very interesting story line. It`s a parody of the band over 30 years. The story line is very strong as well, with the fight against the death generator. Our bass player, Ron Tree, has 10 oscillators all linked up, into this old EMS synthesizer, which is linked together, which will be the death generator. You get crossover points. They warp your sense in your head. If this got together, it could be quite an interesting experience, going through a big PA. Done the right way, it could be very hypnotic. Utilizing all of this, we`re working on it for next year. Music Street Journal:How long do you see Hawkwind continuing? Dave Brock:I don`t know. I really don`t know. From year to year, sometimes you go through times when things don`t go right, other times it`s wonderful. We just have to keep going. Music Street Journal:If you could assemble the ultimate Hawkwind lineup, who would be in it? Dave Brock:Lemmy would because Lemmy is a charismatic character. The band we`ve got at the moment is very interesting, because it`s similar to the band of the `70`s in a way. We`ve got characters like Captain Rizz coming in from outside working with us. We`ve got Crumb who plays keyboards. All these guys have been band leaders. Ron Tree playing bass, he`s had his own band. Jerry Richards, lead guitarist, he`s had his own band. They`ve all been band leaders in a way, so they`ve all got their own special little things. That`s really what we`re going to try to utilize next year. Simon House, Nik, there`s Alan Davey. Alan is a wonderful bass player. He was in the band for 13 years. He plays good keyboard stuff. There`s a lot of characters that you can call upon. It`s like a soap opera, noone is bigger than the actual show. The band has done a tour of Europe without me before and noone has actually noticed. I don`t think it was particularly noticed that much. That`s the way I like to see it. Noone is bigger than the band itself. If you start thinking you`re the big star in the band, that is not the case. It`s like a soap opera, the same sort of thing. They`re all involved. Music Street Journal:What was the last CD you bought? Dave Brock:The last one I bought was Venuti/Lang, which is an old 20`s/30`s sort of thing. Joe Venuti who is a violin player. Eddie Lang was a guitarist, used to play in the `20`s jazz bands. Similar to Django Reinhardt, Stephane Grappelly it`s hard to explain. Music Street Journal:What was the last concert you went to? Dave Brock:Last concert I went to was one of our own. I will be going to a few. You`ve got a lot of big houses over here. "Stately homes" they`re called. They actually have lots of concerts with actual orchestras, jazz bands. It`s a fantastic thing to go and visit. It`s quite interesting cause you get a orchestra playing outside a stately home. You can sit outside on the lawn, have your bottle of wine, and have a really nice time. It`s quite pleasant actually. We do that. In fact, we`ll probably be going to one this weekend. There`s a fireworks display and a jazz band playing. Music Street Journal:Are there any particular projects that you would like to talk about right now? Dave Brock:There is a CD of the American Space Rock Festival which we did last year which should be out soon. Hawkwind itself has just finished recording. We are rehearsing at the moment. We`ve done another album, which I don`t know when it will be released. I`ve also done a solo project. You have to keep going. Forever onward, striving for the lost chord. From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Sat Oct 10 07:41:10 1998 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (David G) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 12:41:10 +0100 Subject: OFF:Ozrics Message-ID: I've had the same trouble with Snapper. I got it from CD Services, and I know Tower Records also stocked it in the US and Japan if Snapper don't come through. DaveG Cliff and Pam Wheaton wrote: > wandering-star wrote: > > > Anyone heard that new Ozrics Live album? > > > > The one with the dodgy green goo ltd edition... > > > > Rich > > I'd sure like to!! I ordered this thing ages ago it sems-according to > them (Snapper Records) It was sent the 4th of Sept. I was charged for it > on the 8th of Sept. I have NOT recieved it yet. I've e-mailed them-the > e-mails bounce. I'm getting really upset at this one. I'm really gonna > be pissed if I have to order it elsewhere & pay twice.I hope it gets > here soon. > Pam > > -- > Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton > ____/----^----\____ The greatest tool > O O "THE INTERNET" > E-mail: cwheaton at TransWestTaxi.com > http://www.TransWestTaxi.com From wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM Sat Oct 10 07:52:48 1998 From: wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM (wandering-star) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 12:52:48 +0100 Subject: OFF:Ozrics Message-ID: Strangely Virgin Actually have it in.. 16-99 though ;-( Rich From sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU Sat Oct 10 10:34:54 1998 From: sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 00:34:54 +1000 Subject: HW: Stacia Pictures Message-ID: Greetings all! With thanks to Jorgen Angel, there are now some more pictures of Stacia in the Hawkwind Gallery (http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/Hawkwind/Gallery/) as well as some band publicity shots. The URL's: http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/Hawkwind/Gallery/Stacia2 http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/Hawkwind/Gallery/Jorgen Soniqu? -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique / \( o`-, ----- may sonique at mail.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they UIN #14292706 on ICQ /////// : ; --- Fly! From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Oct 10 12:47:08 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 17:47:08 +0100 Subject: OFF: The Modern Antiquarian Message-ID: Just picked up a copy of Julian Cope's _The Modern Antiquarian_, his eight-years-in-the-making atlas/history of stone circles and other megalithic sites in Britain. Wow! What a gorgeous book! If you've even a passing interest in this sort of thing, essential, I'd say. - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sat Oct 10 12:52:58 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 17:52:58 +0100 Subject: Way Off Subject In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Thu, 8 Oct 1998 23:56:45 -0400 Message-ID: Paul Mather writes: > Maybe not so out of touch, as this may only be a crazy American > phenomenon. Anyway, they are little stuffed bean-bag toys. The catch ....... > prices. And the prices can get real crazy---from tens, to hundreds, to, > yes, even *thousands* of dollars each (assuming you haven't let yer kid > In this instance, Jill, I'd say ignorance is bliss. ;-) I should learn to listen to voices of wisdom...... I was curious. I went to check. I found Britannia. It is a small brownish-yellow coloured bear about 6 inches high with a Union Jack embroidered on its chest. And the cost of it is: One Hundred And Fifty UK Pounds! You are quite right. I should have stayed at home! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Oct 10 18:24:38 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 18:24:38 -0400 Subject: OFF: Iron Man muzak Message-ID: I have the Georgia/Tennessee game on in the background, and, suddenly, I hear one of the pep bands play a bit of Sabbath's "Iron Man" in response to a good play. I guess this means Sabbath are now an integral part of the fabric of US society and the establishment, eh? Anyway, I thought it made an improvement on Darth Vader's theme, or Queen's "We Will Rock You," which is the usual fare for these things... Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From StevenTice at AOL.COM Sun Oct 11 02:11:57 1998 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 02:11:57 EDT Subject: BOC: Hot Rails Message-ID: In a message dated 98-10-09 05:32:31 EDT, you write: << While on the sub. of live tunes...is there any chance that Hot Rails will ever sneak its way back in? The only live performances of that song I have witnessed are the version on ETL and Joe's performance at a Cult Brothers show about a million years ago. Boy, do I love that song! >> You have to go to an X Brothers (the renamed Cult Brothers) concert...since it's Joe's song, everybody else seems content to let him be the one to perform it...:-) SET From brian-coulthard at EMAIL.MSN.COM Sun Oct 11 06:44:51 1998 From: brian-coulthard at EMAIL.MSN.COM (Brian Coulthard) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 11:44:51 +0100 Subject: HW:Passports In-Reply-To: <199810110900.FAA10176@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hello everybody, I just wondered if anyone has had a reply back from the Hawkwind visitor passports yet? I sent off my application right away but so far have heard nothing. From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Sun Oct 11 07:23:26 1998 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (Scott Heller) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 13:23:26 +0200 Subject: HW:off Message-ID: Hej, That was a really great interview with Dave. He seems to be in excellent spirts these days... Has anyone received anything from the HW Passports? As for the New Ozrics- Space Doubt Streaming... I think that it is really excellent. The drums are mixed higher than usual and Rad is really excellent. Some of the jams are really good and they really take off On Eternal Wheel. I highly recommend it.. I had no trouble with the one line mailing and received my copy in early september, if I recall correctly.. Too bad Smell of Incense are not coming to denmark.. Great band with a GONG influence.. Was listening to the 1999 party friday night with a new HW convert and at high volumes the disc one just totally assaults the mind and body... HW were making the most intense music at this tiem point and Magnus said, perhaps ever.. The sonic assault is quite amazing... Rediscovering HW madness.. SCott ObCD- Five Fifteen- Armageddon Jam Session #4 ObCD- Architectural Metaphor- Limited Edition SD 98 From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Sun Oct 11 08:57:45 1998 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 14:57:45 +0200 Subject: HW:Passports In-Reply-To: <000001bdf504$2c9860e0$ed5395c1@default> Message-ID: At 11:44 11.10.98 +0100, you wrote: >Hello everybody, >I just wondered if anyone has had a reply back from the >Hawkwind visitor passports yet? >I sent off my application right away but so far have heard nothing. I am waiting as well :-(( Bernhard From simplius at SOFTHOME.NET Sun Oct 11 11:12:23 1998 From: simplius at SOFTHOME.NET (Goran Janicijevic) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 15:12:23 GMT Subject: OFF: Pavlov's Dog Message-ID: If someone remembers, in the 70's there was a band called Pavlov's Dog, with two albums produced by Sandy Pearlman. So, I'm looking for some links, website, discussion group, or whatever it can be found about this band on the Internet. So far, I couldn't find anything. Thanks in advance for any info. Simplius From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Oct 11 10:39:35 1998 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:39:35 +0800 Subject: new hawktracks In-Reply-To: <199810081503.KAA25266@overlord.stc.comm.mot.com> Message-ID: > > Two new Hawktrax due on a Pink Floyd tribute CD + book package including > > an Interstellar Overdrive cover (didn't Nik fo one of those on something > > similar recently?). > > Nik did _Careful With That Axe, Eugene_ on _A Saucerful Of Pink_ > (CLEO9551). > And Spiral Realms did A Saucerful of Secrets. William From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Sun Oct 11 10:39:40 1998 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:39:40 +0200 Subject: HW: SM-coverversion from James Last Message-ID: Hello Folks! Filip Vanhuyse (a great Belgium HAWKWIND fan) asked me to let you know that he has got the following two vinyl records for trade or sale: James Last, Non-stop Dancing 1973 Cover version of "SILVER MACHINE" Record Number: Polydor 2371319 His address is: Filip Vanhuyse Vlaanderenstraat 37 9000 Gent BELGIUM If you're interested, get in touch with him Bernhard From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Oct 11 10:42:29 1998 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:42:29 +0800 Subject: new hawktracks In-Reply-To: <199810081608.RAA05695@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > > Two new Hawktrax due on a Pink Floyd tribute CD + book > package including > > > an Interstellar Overdrive cover (didn't Nik fo one of those > on something > > > similar recently?). > > > > Nik did _Careful With That Axe, Eugene_ on _A Saucerful Of > Pink_ (CLEO9551). > > Some ex-hawk did "Interstellar Overdrive" on something. Was it Simon > House then? > Yep, it was Spiral Realms (they didn't do A Saucerful of Secrets, which is what I said in another post). William From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Oct 11 11:46:44 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:46:44 +0100 Subject: HW:Passports In-Reply-To: <000001bdf504$2c9860e0$ed5395c1@default> Message-ID: Not a word, and my cheques been cashed and I'm building up to a filthy response. Z At 11:44 11/10/1998 +0100, you wrote: >Hello everybody, > I just wondered if anyone has had a reply back from the >Hawkwind visitor passports yet? > I sent off my application right away but so far have heard nothing. > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER c/o Shamrock Multimedia,PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Oct 11 11:52:16 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 16:52:16 +0100 Subject: OFF: Pavlov's Dog In-Reply-To: <3621ca8c.7038433@news2.binus.com> Message-ID: Take a trip along to http://www.aristotle.net/~srkdavis/pd2000.html where you'll find out about Pavlov's Dog 2000, the latest incarnation and info on the original version. Z NP Jag Panzer - The Age Of Mastery At 15:12 11/10/1998 GMT, you wrote: >If someone remembers, in the 70's there was a band called Pavlov's >Dog, with two albums produced by Sandy Pearlman. > >So, I'm looking for some links, website, discussion group, or whatever >it can be found about this band on the Internet. So far, I couldn't >find anything. > >Thanks in advance for any info. > > >Simplius > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER c/o Shamrock Multimedia,PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Sun Oct 11 12:40:01 1998 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 18:40:01 +0200 Subject: SV: Re: HW:Passports Message-ID: Hi there! What did you expect when you sent the money? I?m sure we will get the stuff sooner or later, probably later:-)))). But what the heck! It?s still Hawkwind after all. All the best from Sweden Hawkswede >At 11:44 11.10.98 +0100, you wrote: >>Hello everybody, >>I just wondered if anyone has had a reply back from the >>Hawkwind visitor passports yet? >>I sent off my application right away but so far have heard nothing. > >I am waiting as well :-(( > > >Bernhard > From simplius at SOFTHOME.NET Sun Oct 11 18:10:11 1998 From: simplius at SOFTHOME.NET (Goran Janicijevic) Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1998 22:10:11 GMT Subject: OFF: Pavlov's Dog In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19981011165216.0079fb50@pop.dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: zeitgeist-scot wrote: >Take a trip along to >http://www.aristotle.net/~srkdavis/pd2000.html >where you'll find out about Pavlov's Dog 2000, the latest incarnation and >info on the original version. Thanx Zeit, I finally completed the bookmarks for my favourite bands. Never had such difficulties to find some point of interest on the Net. BTW, I LOL-led when I read a review describing Surkamp's voice like: "Geddy Lee swallowing helium". :-)))))) Simplius From flossbac at WCIC.CIOE.COM Mon Oct 12 00:20:48 1998 From: flossbac at WCIC.CIOE.COM (John Majka) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 00:20:48 -0400 Subject: New Hawkwind Page! In-Reply-To: <8fcef64a.360953b7@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi everyone: I've just put up my own Hawkwind page. I don't know a bit of HTML, so things are sort of basic, but at least it works! There's not a whole lot there right now but more will be going up in the future. http://wcic.cioe.com/~flossbac/hwspace.html John Majka flossbac at wcic.cioe.com From D.C.Chilton at BHAM.AC.UK Mon Oct 12 05:11:45 1998 From: D.C.Chilton at BHAM.AC.UK (Derrick C Chilton) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:11:45 +0000 Subject: HW:Passports Message-ID: >Hello everybody, > I just wondered if anyone has had a reply back from the >Hawkwind visitor passports yet? > I sent off my application right away but so far have heard nothing. Same Here, still waiting....... Derrick... From andy.ball at RD.BBC.CO.UK Mon Oct 12 04:26:21 1998 From: andy.ball at RD.BBC.CO.UK (Andy Ball) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:26:21 +0100 Subject: HW Passports Message-ID: Hi Everyone! After lurking for a long time I just want to say hello to everyone. Also that I got my Hawkwind Passport in the mail today :-). When I've had a good look at it I'll tell you whats in it! Andy From richard.cutting at SYNOPSYS.LTD.UK Mon Oct 12 05:16:10 1998 From: richard.cutting at SYNOPSYS.LTD.UK (Cutting, Richard) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:16:10 +0100 Subject: HW:Passports === Message-ID: I got my passport in the post this morning. I've got to fill in some rather strange questions and then send it off again with some photos to get it validated. > ---------- > From: Derrick C Chilton[SMTP:D.C.Chilton at BHAM.AC.UK] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: 12 October 1998 10:11 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: HW:Passports > > >Hello everybody, > > I just wondered if anyone has had a reply back from > the > >Hawkwind visitor passports yet? > > I sent off my application right away but so far have heard > nothing. > > Same Here, still waiting....... > > Derrick... > *********************************************************************** LEGAL DISCLAIMER *********************************************************************** The contents of this email and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Synopsys hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this email and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the Technology Department at Synopsys Ltd. on +44 171 250 1990. *********************************************************************** From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Oct 12 05:22:47 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:22:47 +0100 Subject: HW Passports In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19981012092621.00978be0@sunf0> Message-ID: Me too. Not sure how to fill in the clone status section, though. Moral for today: This is Hawkwind. Do not panic! - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Andy Ball > Sent: 12 October 1998 09:26 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: HW Passports > > > Hi Everyone! > After lurking for a long time I just want to say hello to everyone. Also > that I got my Hawkwind Passport in the mail today :-). > When I've had a good look at it I'll tell you whats in it! > > Andy > From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Mon Oct 12 01:45:23 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 05:45:23 +0000 Subject: BOC: Binghamton Message-ID: Sadly, I must report that Sat. nite's show in Bing was probably the worst BOC gig I've seen. That doesn't mean it was necessarily bad...or that it was ALL bad...it just didn't live up to other shows I've seen. The club was packed, but it's tiny. We're talkin' a couple hundred people tops. I thought the acoustics were total crap. Eric is singing everything differently than he used to. I haven't seen a show in about two years, so this took me way off guard when I first started trying to sing along with him. Since I have absolutely no grasp of musical terminology, this may not make any sense, but it seems like the variation in his voice comes at the points where he would normally be belting it out...like he's trying something new to lessen the strain or something...I don't know. I suppose I could get used to it...maybe eventually like it better...but on first listen it just sounded weird. The worst part of it all was that the show lasted just a tad longer than 60 minutes! When I heard Reaper I couldn't believe it! Then they only did one encore...D&S. And again, Eric's singing just didn't do it justice. I'm not really sure what this has to do with the length of BOC's set, but it's pretty interesting: The opening band, Triple-X, were doin' their thing...getting closer and closer to 11:30-ish. Then, after they finished a song, the PA promptly cut out on them and started playing that "in-between-bands filler music". The guys looked a little surprised, and the singer announced, "Okay, I guess we're done. Stick around for BOC". I don't think there were any hard feelings or anything, because the rest of the band also stayed for BOC and seemed to be really enjoying it. Anyway, enough of the negatives. Here's a couple things I liked: Flaming Telepaths. Great to hear this song live. Love the strobe effect during the "Joke's on you" part. Joan Crawford is back in! Also of note: They didn't play that little sound FX cluster with the car crashes, trumpets, alarm clocks, etc. They did, however, play the whispering "Christina...mother's home!" Bass solo during Godzilla: Danny's good! It's nice to see him get to show off a little...although the back-to-back bass 'n' drum solos were maybe a bit much. HF tunes in the show were the standard SYIB, HM, LFM. Eric was funny introducing Live for Me. He said, "You should be hearing this one on the radio right now...if not, call up the station and say, "Hey, let me hear that new fuckin' BOC song!" BTW, when I was pulling into Binghamton Friday afternoon, I heard it on KGB : ) THE NEW HEAVEN FORBID T-SHIRTS! I wasn't planning on spending, but when I saw it, I had to buy it. Wearing it right now, in fact! It's cool. Black, of course. The front is plain except for the left breast, which has a picture of the lady screaming from the HF cover, and it says "Blue Oyster Cult, Heaven Forbid Tour 1998". The back has a big picture of an eye, with the symbol in the middle. Has the same words as front, only bigger, obviously. In closing, not a total waste of a night or anything...but a slight let-down in comparison with other shows. I sort of got the impression that their hearts weren't really in it. I'm still totally psyched about the new shirt, though! -- Nick From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Mon Oct 12 06:46:15 1998 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (LN1GJT) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:46:15 +0000 Subject: HW:Passports In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello folks, I've been a bit out-of-touch for the past few months! Could somebody let me know, what these "Passports" are all about ???????? Guy From richard.cutting at SYNOPSYS.LTD.UK Mon Oct 12 05:56:49 1998 From: richard.cutting at SYNOPSYS.LTD.UK (Cutting, Richard) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:56:49 +0100 Subject: HW:Passports === Message-ID: You can find full details on Hawkwinds own web page http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/ Richard. > ---------- > From: LN1GJT[SMTP:Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: 12 October 1998 11:46 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: HW:Passports > > Hello folks, > > I've been a bit out-of-touch for the past few months! > > Could somebody let me know, what these "Passports" are all about > ???????? > > > Guy > *********************************************************************** LEGAL DISCLAIMER *********************************************************************** The contents of this email and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Synopsys hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this email and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the Technology Department at Synopsys Ltd. on +44 171 250 1990. *********************************************************************** From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Oct 12 07:02:17 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:02:17 +0100 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_HW:Passports_=3D=3D=3D?= Message-ID: > You can find full details on Hawkwinds own web page > http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/ People sent money? I've not sent off yet, but I thought one just needed to send an A5 SAE? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Oct 12 07:40:54 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 07:40:54 EDT Subject: BOC: Binghamton In-Reply-To: <199810120947.FAA02105@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: > From: "" > Sadly, I must report that Sat. nite's show in Bing was probably the > worst BOC gig I've seen. That doesn't mean it was necessarily > bad...or that it was ALL bad...it just didn't live up to other shows > I've seen. > Sorry that I have to agree. BOC are great, but this show was somewhat less than the others I've seen. I saw them acouple months ago, and they were boffo, so I'm thinking this was just a bad night. BOC on a bad night are still better than most other mortals on their best night, but it was still disappointing... > The club was packed, but it's tiny. We're talkin' a couple hundred > people tops. I thought the acoustics were total crap. > Actually, it was more crowded the last time, and that was a horrilbe snowing night in the middle of winter. Acoustics ARE god-awful. Don't know what's going on, but you can never hear Buck's guitar solos. It actually sounds better further back. I'm thinking BD keeps his stage amp turned down a bit to save his hearing, then has them crank it through the mains... > Eric is singing everything differently than he used to. I haven't > seen a show in about two years, so this took me way off guard when I > first started trying to sing along with him. Since I have absolutely > no grasp of musical terminology, this may not make any sense, but it > seems like the variation in his voice comes at the points where he > would normally be belting it out...like he's trying something new to > lessen the strain or something...I don't know. I suppose I could get > used to it...maybe eventually like it better...but on first listen it > just sounded weird. > I heard it too. Esp. during Flaming Telepaths. He's starting out lower on some passages so he can curl into them. Standard practice for singers. Maybe EB's voice was the reason they played short? > The worst part of it all was that the show lasted just a tad longer > than 60 minutes! When I heard Reaper I couldn't believe it! Yep. They started about 1140pm and the encore was done by 1am. Notice how they truncated certain parts to cut time too? Like BD's silly routine before the solo on CoF was cut way down. Drum and Bass solos [thankfully!] were shortened. Nothing against Bobby and Danny--they're monster musicians, I'm just not a big fan of that sort of stuff... Then they > only did one encore...D&S. And again, Eric's singing just didn't do > it justice. > I thought he was okay on it. And I'd rather hear D&S than TRatB, the other usual encore. Actually, they shortened D&S a bit too, but BD made up for things with some smokin' lead playing. In fact, even though they played short, Buck's gtr playing was amazing all night. Incredible soloing in Telepaths, Buck's Boogie, TCtLDoM and D&S. > I'm not really sure what this has to do with the length of BOC's set, > but it's pretty interesting: The opening band, Triple-X, were doin' > their thing...getting closer and closer to 11:30-ish. Then, after > they finished a song, the PA promptly cut out on them and started > playing that "in-between-bands filler music". The guys looked a > little surprised, and the singer announced, "Okay, I guess we're > done. Stick around for BOC". I don't think there were any hard > feelings or anything, because the rest of the band also stayed for > BOC and seemed to be really enjoying it. > Well, one small glimmer of luck for me. I couldn't leave here til almost 10 o'clock, and I was worried I'd miss part of the show. And rte 81 was a bitch as it was pouring rain here in Syr, then got real foggy , down to single lane for construction etc. Then the weather lifted, and I hammer-downed and made it to the bar to see them striking the set, so I didn't have to hear one note from the opening act! How were they? Anyway, it's a big pet peeve of mine to have to hang around waiting for the main band, so this worked out great for me. I think this is another reason BOC played short--they never play past 1am. Maybe in the contract, who knows? I could tell early on that they were gonna play short, 'cause they played Cities...second, and there are usually a couple songs between the opener and CoF, like BtK, or OD'd... > Anyway, enough of the negatives. Here's a couple things I liked: > > Flaming Telepaths. Great to hear this song live. Love the strobe > effect during the "Joke's on you" part. > Yeah, they did it up real nice. Better at the New Hartford gig, but this one was fine... > Joan Crawford is back in! Also of note: They didn't play that little > sound FX cluster with the car crashes, trumpets, alarm clocks, etc. > They did, however, play the whispering "Christina...mother's home!" > Not a big fan of that tune, so I could've lived without it. Also I think they could drop ETI--they've been playing it nonstop since AoF... > Bass solo during Godzilla: Danny's good! It's nice to see him get to > show off a little...although the back-to-back bass 'n' drum solos > were maybe a bit much. > > HF tunes in the show were the standard SYIB, HM, LFM. Eric was funny > introducing Live for Me. He said, "You should be hearing this one on > the radio right now...if not, call up the station and say, "Hey, let > me hear that new fuckin' BOC song!" BTW, when I was pulling into > Binghamton Friday afternoon, I heard it on KGB : ) > Really liked the HF tunes. SYIB really rocked. HM was superb--this tune deserves a place in the BOC 'greatest hits' status. Instant classic, and they rave on it live... > THE NEW HEAVEN FORBID T-SHIRTS! I wasn't planning on spending, but > when I saw it, I had to buy it. Wearing it right now, in fact! It's > cool. Black, of course. The front is plain except for the left > breast, which has a picture of the lady screaming from the HF cover, > and it says "Blue Oyster Cult, Heaven Forbid Tour 1998". The back has > a big picture of an eye, with the symbol in the middle. Has the same > words as front, only bigger, obviously. > Damn! Didn't see 'em. Probably wouldn't have had one to fit me anyway. This is good news that somebody's behind the new album enough to have the confidence to print up new shirts. A good sign... > In closing, not a total waste of a night or anything...but a slight > let-down in comparison with other shows. I sort of got the impression > that their hearts weren't really in it. I'm still totally psyched > about the new shirt, though! > > -- Nick My sentiments are the same as yours. I'll still go see BOC any chance I get. Beats sitting home. And really, this was the first lame show I've seen in the last 3 years, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt... theo From christmu at EUNET.NO Mon Oct 12 10:07:21 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:07:21 +0100 Subject: HW passports Message-ID: Whats all this about sending money?? I thought the procedure was to mail an SAE, receive a 'test' of some sort, and then apply for the passport??? I sent off for it right away too. Did i fuck up??? :( Christian ObCD: Mercury Rev - The Deserter's Songs From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Mon Oct 12 09:32:34 1998 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:32:34 -0400 Subject: BOC: BINGO! Message-ID: >is there any chance that Hot Rails will ever sneak its way back in? Doubtful - it's a Joe tune. Look for the X-Brothers gigs if you ever want to see it live again.\ John From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Oct 12 09:34:08 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:34:08 +0100 Subject: HW passports In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19981012150721.02e9056c@pop.eunet.no> Message-ID: No, you didn't. I've no idea why anyone would have sent money, unless they've, like, got too much and want to give some away... in which case can I have some too? I haven't checked, but the inside of the passport looks a lot like the Earth Visitors Passport from the 1981 tour book (surprise). - Andy ObCD: Ryoji Ikeda - _+/-_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of christmu at EUNET.NO > Sent: 12 October 1998 15:07 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: HW passports > > > Whats all this about sending money?? I thought the procedure was > to mail an > SAE, receive a 'test' of some sort, and then apply for the passport??? I > sent off for it right away too. Did i fuck up??? :( > > Christian > ObCD: Mercury Rev - The Deserter's Songs > From christmu at EUNET.NO Mon Oct 12 10:27:15 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 15:27:15 +0100 Subject: OFF: Kurupt & Monster Magnet Message-ID: >From the MTV news page..... 10/8/98 ------- Kurupt Discusses His Hopes For A Monster Magnet Remix Rapper Kurupt hopes to follow in the fine tradition of Puff Daddy and Dave Grohl by teaming with Monster Magnet for a rock remix of one of his upcoming singles. While the former Dogg Pound rapper is currently working on the first single, "We Can Freak It," from his upcoming album, "Kuruption," he already has an eye on his second single, "Gimmewhutchagot," which he hopes Monster Magnet will remix. Kurupt told MTV News last week that he, like much of mainstream America, first caught wind of the band through their recent Buzz Clip for "Space Lord." The rapper was first turned on to the clip by a video editor named Randy who works for A&M Records, the label that the rapper shares with the band. "Randy basically brought me in to see an edit of the video for 'We Can Freak It,' and I'm in there and Randy wanted to show me other videos he's done," Kurupt explained of the origins of the union. "He's like, 'Let me show you this other new one I did with a rock and roll group we have on our label called Monster Magnet.' And I'm like, 'O.K., let me peek it out.' And it's all dark and grim in the beginning, and I'm like, 'O.K., I like that.' I'm like 'O.K.' Then the curtain went up, man, behind them, and it was 'Arrrgh,' and I'm like, 'Eeeew, I love this.' I love the contrast. I love how it went from this to that." [28.8 RealVideo] Kurupt said that he wants Monster Magnet to beef up the guitar riff in "Gimmewhutchagot," and that he also hopes to shoot a separate video for the rock remix, a la Puffy and his two clips for "It's All About The Benjamins." Spokespeople for A&M Records say that both parties are interested in the project, but that nothing has been planned yet, and added that reports that the remix has already happened are entirely off the mark. For more on Kurupt, check out the MTV News Gallery. From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon Oct 12 09:32:53 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 09:32:53 -0400 Subject: BOC: Binghamton Message-ID: As far as bad sound goes, did any of you catch BOC on www.liveconcerts.com? The sound there was very bad. Buck and Eric were completely drowned out by Danny and Bobby. Woo Hoo, new T-shirts! Gotta get me one. I thought that a T-shirt with 1972:Cities on Flame on the front and 1998:Still Burning on the back would be kinda cool. Anyone going to Albany on Sat? From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 12 09:56:23 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:56:23 +0100 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_HW:Passports_=3D=3D=3D?= In-Reply-To: Carl E. Anderson's message of Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:02:17 +0100 Message-ID: Carl E. Anderson writes: > > You can find full details on Hawkwinds own web page > > http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/ > > People sent money? I've not sent off yet, but I thought one > just needed to send an A5 SAE? That's a relief. It's all I sent. Hopefully it will return. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Mon Oct 12 10:54:40 1998 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:54:40 +0200 Subject: HW Passports Message-ID: Andy Ball schrieb: > Hi Everyone! > After lurking for a long time I just want to say hello to everyone. Also > that I got my Hawkwind Passport in the mail today :-). > When I've had a good look at it I'll tell you whats in it! > > Andy I have received mine today here in Germany, and i have sent no money, just an S.A.E. and an IRC. I just wonder what those private HW parties will be... Andreas From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Mon Oct 12 10:54:39 1998 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:54:39 +0200 Subject: BOC: Scream Message-ID: Hi there, I have just seen Scream on video, it?s supposed to be the director?s cut. There?s a really strange version of Don?t fear the reaper to be heard somewhere in the film, with acoustic guitars and violins, obviously not by BOC. I couldn?t see in the credits who had done this shit. Also I didn?t hear it when I saw the movie in the cinema a while ago. So does anybody know who did this cover version? Andreas From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon Oct 12 11:20:36 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:20:36 -0400 Subject: Scream Message-ID: I believe that band was called Gus. Check the BOC FAQ for more information. > ---------- > From: Andreas[SMTP:Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: Monday, October 12, 1998 10:54 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: BOC: Scream > > Hi there, > I have just seen Scream on video, it?s supposed to be the director?s cut. > There?s > a really strange version of Don?t fear the reaper to be heard somewhere in > the > film, with acoustic guitars and violins, obviously not by BOC. I couldn?t > see in > the credits who had done this shit. Also I didn?t hear it when I saw the > movie in > the cinema a while ago. So does anybody know who did this cover version? > > Andreas > From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Oct 12 11:31:00 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 16:31:00 +0100 Subject: BOC: Scream In-Reply-To: Message-ID: If you look for the album on CD Now, you can play a Real Audio sound sample of the track. - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Andreas > Sent: 12 October 1998 15:55 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: BOC: Scream > > > Hi there, > I have just seen Scream on video, it?s supposed to be the > director?s cut. There?s > a really strange version of Don?t fear the reaper to be heard > somewhere in the > film, with acoustic guitars and violins, obviously not by BOC. I > couldn?t see in > the credits who had done this shit. Also I didn?t hear it when I > saw the movie in > the cinema a while ago. So does anybody know who did this cover version? > > Andreas > From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Mon Oct 12 11:42:42 1998 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:42:42 -0500 Subject: HW: Webring Message-ID: > Some time ago someone posted a list of all HW related web sites, and the > constitution of a ring of these sites was viewed as a possibility; I found more > tech news about that at ; if the web creators agree we > could be part of this listing; for example you can browse the Pink Floyd ring > at > Being part of the Music index of webrings also implies having neighboors like > Spice Girls or AccordeonI A few of us posted the site lists, and I suggested the webring. (At least I think it was me. I meant to, anyway. :-) I posted some proposed images and miscellaneous other webring bits, but it kind of fell by the wayside due to serious lack of time on my part. That, by the way, is why my Golden Void site hasn't been updated much lately. Between new job responsibilities, a new house, a new marriage, and being out of town quite a bit, I just haven't had the time to put in that I would like. I'm planning a major revamp of my site later this year. Anyway, I still think a Hawkwind webring would be a good idea. Also, Paul Ward and I should try to finish up our ideas about putting a Hawkwind link server on the web. So many bytes, so little time... Frank --- Interviewer: So you are the camp co-ordinator. What does that entail? Venture Scout: Well, basically, I co-ordinate the camp. -- "8.15 From Manchester", BBC1 TV ============================================================ Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Mon Oct 12 12:59:08 1998 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 11:59:08 -0500 Subject: HW: OFF: Debut Earthlings? Album Blooms In Desert Studio Message-ID: Interesting article: http://features.yahoo.com/sonicnet/storyid/19981012105.html Bands mentioned: Kyuss Queens of the Stone Age Monster Magnet 10/12/98 Debut Earthlings? Album Blooms In Desert Studio SonicNet Daily Music News Reports: The ethereal, spacey earthlings? are not so much a band as they are a collective, recording material with friends and musicians who happen to stop by at their desert recording-studio, Rancho de la Luna. That's where the bonds are formed, and where the music is born. "I'm always amazed, staying at the ranch, how many people just stop through to say 'Hi' and then end up on tape." said earthlings? lead singer Pete Stahl, formerly the vocalist for the legendary D.C. punk-band Scream. Some of those musicians -- including Foo Fighters frontman Dave Grohl (who played with Stahl in Scream), folk-rocker Victoria Williams and ex-Kyuss guitarist Josh Homme -- have ended up on earthlings? self-titled, desert-born, debut LP, which was released over the summer by the German label Crippled Dick Hot Wax. The album, which is heavy on eerie, trance-inducing rock, as well as some psychedelic melodies reminiscent of German avant-rock pioneers Can, veers between distorted Hendrix-like guitar-work and spaced-out jams full of interplanetary imagery and futuristic metaphors. Some of the band's sonic experiments add to the impromptu feel of the dreamy album. On the song "Happiest Day Of My Life" (RealAudio except) Stahl phoned his vocal parts into the studio from the market down the street; on "Reaper (Don't Fear This Child)" (RealAudio excerpt) Stahl preferred to sing his vocals through an old Navy-intercom unit. Two years ago, when earthlings? percussionist Fred Drake was squatting inside an empty hot-tub recording drum tracks, he never dreamed the result would end up on the band's debut album. "Pete [Stahl] was out on the front patio and he had headphones on so he could hear the drums that were being played from the hot tub," Drake said. "This tub ... the acoustics were just really scary in there." The groundwork for the band was laid when Drake (who played in various L.A.-based bands, including House of Love and Code Blue) stumbled on a property in the desert near Joshua Tree, Calif., five years ago. After setting up a studio, dubbed Rancho de la Luna, he and the rest of earthlings? began recording their music. But in the process, the area's unique landscape began to lure a slew of well-known musicians to the ranch to record material of their own. "Right now, Rancho's going through a transition where they got rid of some gear and they're going to pull in some new gear," said Homme, whose new band, Queens of the Stone Age, has done some recording at the ranch. "Normally, we just ping-pong back and forth. We recorded one track [for Queens of the Stone Age] at Rancho, but we wanted that tight, dry sound. Rancho's more like, 'Set it up and go' and track vocals in the kitchen and stuff." The earthlings? are eager to turn just about anything they can find into a musical instrument. One of Drake's favorite's is an old metal-detector wired up to a theramin, which triggers odd-sounding keyboard-effects. "I hope they don't give me hassles when I try to take it to Europe; it looks a bit like a bomb," he said. Currently the earthlings? are shooting a video for their first single, "Saving Up For My Spaceship," and gearing up for a two-week tour of Europe in mid-November, opening for Queens of the Stone Age. Since the band has played only a handful of live dates -- one of which was a barbecue at Stahl's house in Los Angeles -- no two shows are expected to be quite the same. In addition to the earthlings? debut album, the musical atmosphere of Rancho de la Luna has been the subject of a series of 10-inch records released on Man's Ruin Records and dubbed the Desert Sessions. Volumes one and two have recently been combined into a single CD and the series features an army of guest musicians, including Monster Magnet guitarist John McBain, ex-Soundgarden bassist Ben Shepherd, Homme and other ex-members of Kyuss. So many musicians are flocking to Rancho de la Luna (18 albums have been recorded there so far) that Drake and company are being credited with the creation of a "desert sound" comparable to the Seattle sound of the early '90s or the San Francisco sound of the '60s. However, Drake credits the landscape itself. "I think it's the desert that sneaks onto the magnetic tape," he said, "and just affects everybody's mood and they start playing better and really cool things happen." Yahoo! is a trademark of Yahoo! Inc. Copyright ? 1998 Yahoo! and SonicNet. All Rights Reserved. -- PERCEPTION You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are. - Herb Cohen From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Oct 12 14:29:34 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:29:34 +0100 Subject: HW: OFF: Debut Earthlings? Album Blooms In Desert Studio In-Reply-To: <3622355C.D899B113@execpc.com> Message-ID: > market down the street; on "Reaper (Don't Fear This Child)" (RealAudio Hmm.. that title rings a bell (over on the BOC side of the list, anyway)! Doesn't sound very familiar though - unless perhaps if you played it twice as fast or something... - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 12 14:33:32 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:33:32 +0100 Subject: HW: Alan "The Elf" Davey Message-ID: Just got another flyer from Alan Davey: "Sci-fi-delic" EP (ELF 001) A limited edition CD EP (300 only) is now available by Mail Order only. Cost 8.00 pounds including p&p. Postal Orders only, made out to A.Davey. Address: "Bedouin Info", P.O. Box 38, Honiton, East Devon, EX14 9YW. Track list: Sci-fi-delic / Vulcan Ritual / Interceptor 1 / Holosuite Program / Eagle alpha Total running time 24:49 jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From brian-coulthard at EMAIL.MSN.COM Mon Oct 12 16:19:55 1998 From: brian-coulthard at EMAIL.MSN.COM (Brian Coulthard) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:19:55 +0100 Subject: HW:Passports In-Reply-To: <199810120900.FAA14544@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hello again With utterly amazing timing I mention that I have heard nothing about the Passports then as if by magic the following morning the smegging thing arrives. I did not realise that they were so literal when they said passports I shall photograph myself shortly. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Oct 12 18:47:49 1998 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 18:47:49 -0400 Subject: new hawktracks - Smell of incense gig Message-ID: Earlier, we heard... >>> Some ex-hawk did "Interstellar Overdrive" on something. Was it Simon >>> House then? >>> >>Yes, Spiral Realms (a.k.a. Simon House) did a studio version on A >>Saucerful and a live one on their Solar Wind CD. >>The Smell of Incense also covered it on their album All mimsy were the >>Borogroves a few years ago, titled as (The Smell of) Interstellar Overdrive. >>And just recently Pseudo Sun included about 20 seconds of I.O. during >>their set in Jonkoping. And somebody played it at Strange Daze '98 IIRC...was it Melting Euphoria?? BTW, who's releasing the SD97 live comp. (and where)?? Is Griffin truly rising from the ashes, in which case it should be renamed Phoenix Discs?? Keith H. (FAA) P.S. No passport today...but then, I don't think we got mail today due to the fact that it's Columbus Day, aka Native American Demonstration Day. Don't ask me why there's no mail, but I'm sure it's not because I live in Columbus, Ohio. From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Mon Oct 12 23:08:10 1998 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 22:08:10 -0500 Subject: HW: Name that tune! Message-ID: Hey! Is anyone else having problems with their posts not posting to the list? Yes, I'm on the "other side of the pond" and am finding that not every post seems to be making it to the listserv! Emailed Ben to see what's up . . . Maybe you can help. I can't remember where this song lyric is from! Wait! I think I know! Genesis! "You've got to get in . . . to get out." What song though? Was just listening to the Hawkwind double CD, "Ambient Anarchists." One of their songs, "Utopia," has the lyrics: "If you want to get into it, you've got to get out of it." Wow! Just a little similarity. ;-) Deja vu, Karen -- PERCEPTION You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are. - Herb Cohen From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Mon Oct 12 23:35:26 1998 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (J. Scruton) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 23:35:26 -0400 Subject: HW: Name that tune on Broadway In-Reply-To: <3622C41A.1E9F3150@execpc.com> Message-ID: At 10:08 PM 10/12/98 -0500, you wrote: > >Genesis! > >"You've got to get in . . . to get out." What song though? "The Carpet Crawl" (or is it the carpet crawlers?) off of _The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway_. Good ditty. Yay coincidental lyrics, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Tue Oct 13 00:18:34 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 04:18:34 +0000 Subject: BOC: Scream Message-ID: > Personally I like the Gus version, it's extremely moody and well done. > > --EF I enjoyed it, too...and yes, it was in the original theatrical release of the film. With the help of some earlier posts, I seem to recall it being the background music for the "almost" sex scene near the beginning. Don't know if this has anything to do with anything, but it just popped into my head since we're on the subject of wild covers... If you're a Sabbath fan who needs to have EVERYTHING, then I suggest you pick up a copy of the album "First band on the Moon", by that semi-sappy Swedish group The Cardigans (remember Love Fool?). They do a version of "Iron Man" that's just bizarre. -- Nick From sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU Tue Oct 13 08:12:32 1998 From: sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 22:12:32 +1000 Subject: HW: Webring Message-ID: On 12 Oct 98, at 10:42, Frank Weil wrote about Re: HW: Webring: > Anyway, I still think a Hawkwind webring would be a good idea. Also, Paul > Ward and I should try to finish up our ideas about putting a Hawkwind link > server on the web. So many bytes, so little time... As it happens my current project at work is a CGI database front end ... so as soon as I learn a little more (and find some time!) this should be a relatively easy task ...... Soniqu? -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique / \( o`-, ----- may sonique at mail.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they UIN #14292706 on ICQ /////// : ; --- Fly! From edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK Tue Oct 13 09:33:00 1998 From: edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:33:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Vinyl Message-ID: From: Mark Edmonds Date: 1998-10-13 14:33 >It could be Only the Dead Dreams of the Cold War Kid? Haven't listened to it >lately, but I seem to remember something like that in the background. >Or maybe even The Aubergine That Ate Rangoon? >William Hmmm... yes... I'm trying to play it through in my head at the moment... do you mean the bit when the chorus is sung "only the dead dreams of the cold war kid" and then it goes click-click in rhythm? Could be castanets as well... Mark From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Oct 13 09:54:23 1998 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 21:54:23 +0800 Subject: HW: Vinyl In-Reply-To: <5369@ems.rail.co.uk> Message-ID: > >It could be Only the Dead Dreams of the Cold War Kid? Haven't listened to > it > >lately, but I seem to remember something like that in the background. > >Or maybe even The Aubergine That Ate Rangoon? > > >William > > Hmmm... yes... I'm trying to play it through in my head at the > moment... do > you mean the bit when the chorus is sung "only the dead dreams of the cold > war kid" and then it goes click-click in rhythm? Could be castanets as > well... > That's the bit I was thinking of. William From flossbac at WCIC.CIOE.COM Tue Oct 13 08:57:58 1998 From: flossbac at WCIC.CIOE.COM (John Majka) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:57:58 -0400 Subject: New Hawkwind Page! In-Reply-To: <5369@ems.rail.co.uk> Message-ID: Well I finally managed to put up my Hawkwind webpage. The site isn't "complete" as of right now, but there is an interview with Dave Brock and Richard Chadwick from 1989 conducted by Dez Cadena and pals from Black Flag. I also have photos I took of the band on their Chicago visits of 1989, 1991, 1995 and 1997. My film got destroyed for the 1990 tour! As soon as I develop my pictures from Strange Daze 98 I'll put those up as well. There will be more put on the site bit by bit as I get around to it...including perhaps Hawkwind guitar tablatures. Go to: http://wcic.cioe.com/~flossbac/hwspace.html John Majka flossbac at wcic.cioe.com From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Oct 13 10:23:26 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:23:26 -0400 Subject: BOC: Helen Wheels Message-ID: Briefly heard that a local dj at a radio station (WZZR out of Ft. Pierce, FL) is using the name Helen Wheels. I don't think it's the one we know, but will call to check, when I get a chance... ============================================ While outside on the Turnpike They've got this new hit tune Thrills become as cheap as gas and gas as cheap as thrills. - "Before the Kiss (A Redcap)" by Blue ?yster Cult -AAA From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Tue Oct 13 12:22:52 1998 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff and Pam Wheaton) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:22:52 -0600 Subject: Ozric ( Spice Doubt) Message-ID: Hi! This is a response I got from a friend in England when I asked him to see if he could find me an address for Snapper records: Bad news! No record of Snapper Records in the phone listings or as a registered company. There is also no phone listing for Direct Home Entertainment although there is a company named that but with a totally different address right on the other side of town but they have no listed number either. If there is a connection, then I am unable to find it because they have no listed number. I wanted to find an e-mail addy or something so I could yell at them for a refund. I ended up using the P.O. Box # from the order form they sent me. I hope they get it!! I got tired of waiting for something that probably won't arrive.I've ordered this from Syn-Phonic as of today, so I should have it soon. Rock on! Pam -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton _____/----^---\____ The greatest tool for world peace http://www.artbell.com/artquits.html You may recall about a year ago... I told you that there was an event, a threatening terrible event occured to my family, which I could not tell you about. Because of that event, and a succession of other events, what you're listening to right now, is my final broadcast on the air. This is it folks, I'm going off the air and will not return. And what I will tell you now is what I told you then. When the time comes when I can tell you what occurred, I will tell you, through the press, through the media, of one sort or the other. I will explain to you the entire thing, it's not that I want to hold anything back from my audience, however, for the protection of my family, until it is otherwise revealed, I can't discuss it, I won't discuss it. And if you were in my position, you would do exactly the same thing. And when you finally hear whatever it is, what it is, whenever you hear it, I think you will then understand. At any rate, I wanted to tell you, I didn't want to go without saying a word, so I'm telling you now. What you are listening to, is MY FINAL BROADCAST. It's been a good run, and you've been a great audience, and it's been an absolutely incredible forum. And my presumption is, that the forum will continue. At any rate, it certainly is my hope, that the forum will continue. And again when the time comes, when this information can be released, you can be sure that I will release it, and I would assume because of the magnitude of the forum that I have held, at that time, you'll get the whole story. But the time will come when I will tell it. So for now and the foreseeable future, that's it! That is the end of this man's broadcast career. So, thank you, and goodbye... (Art Bell, 2:55 AM, Oct 13, 1998) -- PERCEPTION You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are. - Herb Cohen From abrevard at SHL.COM Tue Oct 13 12:54:26 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:54:26 -0700 Subject: BOC: Binghamton Message-ID: >Sadly, I must report that Sat. nite's show in Bing was probably the worst BOC gig I've seen. That doesn't mean it was necessarily bad...or that it was ALL bad...it just didn't live up to other shows I've seen. Sorry to hear that. >The club was packed, but it's tiny. We're talkin' a couple hundred people tops. I thought the acoustics were total crap. While I do love the smaller venues, gives you a real personal feeling, many of these places just don't have the necesarry equipment to do a major band justice. >Eric is singing everything differently than he used to. I haven't seen a show in about two years, so this took me way off guard when I first started trying to sing along with him. Since I have absolutely no grasp of musical terminology, this may not make any sense, but it seems like the variation in his voice comes at the points where he would normally be belting it out...like he's trying something new to lessen the strain or something...I don't know. I suppose I could get used to it...maybe eventually like it better...but on first listen it just sounded weird. Well Eric will probably never sing as he once did. Poor guy has a lot of mileage on that throat. I thought the boys toured like maniacs before but HF has really got them out there on the road now. Wasn't there supposed to be a Rochester gig this weekend also? Plus they played, where, Ohio on thursday night? From Binghamton they traveled way down south to Wash. DC for the Taste of DC Fest. Thats a lot of travel and singing in a weekend. At the end of the day however Eric sounds better now than he did in 96-97'. >The worst part of it all was that the show lasted just a tad longer than 60 minutes! When I heard Reaper I couldn't believe it! Then they only did one encore...D&S. And again, Eric's singing just didn't do it justice. Could have been local curfew then again they were a bit extended on gigs this week. Bet they played 40 mins. or less at that festival in DC. >Anyway, enough of the negatives. Here's a couple things I liked: >Flaming Telepaths. Great to hear this song live. Love the strobe effect during the "Joke's on you" part. They did this in April and it Rocked! Happy this has remained part of the set. >Joan Crawford is back in! Also of note: They didn't play that little sound FX cluster with the car crashes, trumpets, alarm clocks, etc. They did, however, play the whispering "Christina...mother's home!" Did Alan get to show off his piano? >Bass solo during Godzilla: Danny's good! It's nice to see him get to show off a little...although the back-to-back bass 'n' drum solos were maybe a bit much. Have to agree with Theo, you don't need a bass solo and a drum solo in the same song. Keep Danny's Bass but lose Bobby's drums. Bobby should do something during D&S. >HF tunes in the show were the standard SYIB, HM, LFM. Eric was funny introducing Live for Me. He said, "You should be hearing this one on the radio right now...if not, call up the station and say, "Hey, let me hear that new fuckin' BOC song!" BTW, when I was pulling into Binghamton Friday afternoon, I heard it on KGB : ) Still no Damaged or Hammerback? Dissapointed!!!!! >THE NEW HEAVEN FORBID T-SHIRTS! I wasn't planning on spending, but when I saw it, I had to buy it. Wearing it right now, in fact! It's cool. Black, of course. The front is plain except for the left breast, which has a picture of the lady screaming from the HF cover, and it says "Blue Oyster Cult, Heaven Forbid Tour 1998". The back has a big picture of an eye, with the symbol in the middle. Has the same words as front, only bigger, obviously. Don't think they had those in April or I would have bought one. Real miniscule collection of band T's in my house, one BOC one King's X is all. >In closing, not a total waste of a night or anything...but a slight let-down in comparison with other shows. I sort of got the impression that their hearts weren't really in it. I'm still totally psyched about the new shirt, though! -- Nick Well its always a positve when the band plays, unfortunately they don't control everything when they do. I fell a bit bad about not seeing them this past weekend especially when it was free :). However, life's not a total bummer I did see King's X and Galactic Cowboys wenesday night and that show was to die for.... Back to Lurkerdom while I await the John Swartz debut album "The Bass Player Nobody Knows" hehehehhehehehe Ghost in the Ruins In the Player - Galactic Cowboys, At the End of The Day From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Oct 13 13:41:36 1998 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 19:41:36 +0200 Subject: HW: Sonic boom killers Message-ID: I have read in a German music paper that Sonic Boom Killers, the new singles compilation by HW on Repertoire Records, was remastered by none other than Eroc, who used to be the drummer in Grobschnitt and who is now a wellknown producer. I didn?t care to buy this CD since all the stuff?s been released elsewhere. Has anyone listened to it and noticed any differences ? Andreas From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Tue Oct 13 16:53:25 1998 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:53:25 -0500 Subject: BOC: Binghamton Message-ID: Hall, Russell J wrote: > As far as bad sound goes, did any of you catch BOC on www.liveconcerts.com? > The sound there was very bad. Buck and Eric were completely drowned out by > Danny and Bobby. > > The sound quality was quit bad, it started out sounding really good but after BFY it quickly went down hill. I also tried to watch them at www.justsurfit.com a while back where it was broadcast live, but my Media Player kept buffering ever 3 seconds making it impossible. Laj. From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Tue Oct 13 17:06:29 1998 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:06:29 -0500 Subject: BOC: Scream Message-ID: > Personally I like the Gus version, it's extremely moody and well done. > > > > --EF > > I enjoyed it, too...and yes, it was in the original theatrical > release of the film. With the help of some earlier posts, I seem to > recall it being the background music for the "almost" sex scene near > the beginning. > > -- Nick Saw it in the theater with a friend of mine, talk about being in the background, he was the one that pointed out to me that it was playing, I never even noticed. We were the only people that stayed in the theater for the entire DFTR rendition during the credits, I really never liked it though. What does everybody think about This Ain't the Summer of Love by L7, this too I didn't like, I really hated the vocal especially, but then again I don't like anything L7 has done, and in the song writing credits it credits it to Buck Lee Wallen or something, I know they got it wrong anyway. Laj. From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Oct 13 18:20:22 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 23:20:22 +0100 Subject: BOC: Scream In-Reply-To: <3623C0D5.4DB0EDC8@dlcwest.com> Message-ID: > What does everybody think about This Ain't the Summer of Love by L7, Not too hot. Thud bang crash. However, the Mutton Birds' version of "Reaper" from _The Frighteners_ is really superb. - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Oct 13 19:18:35 1998 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:18:35 -0700 Subject: This Ain't the Summer (was: Re: BOC: Scream) Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Oct 1998 16:06:29 -0500, Laj Waldner wrote: > What does everybody think about This Ain't the Summer of Love by L7, >this too I didn't like, I really hated the vocal especially, but then >again I don't like anything L7 has done, Yeah, just typical 90s post-grunge alternarock. I did like the stuff L7 did on Epitath and Sub Pop before they got "signed", but that was a LONG time ago. (But thanks, Andy, for bringing it to my attention!) >and in the song writing credits >it credits it to Buck Lee Wallen or something, I know they got it wronganyway. REMEMBER: This song was NOT written by BOC. It was written by an LA band called The Imperial Dogs (the Australian label Dog Meat released their unreleased LP a few years ago, which includes the original version of "This Ain't The Summer Of Love") and was subsequently "borrowed" by Pearlman/BOC. So these are probably (sorry, don't have the record in front of me) the original, correct, credits. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Wed Oct 14 00:53:29 1998 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Peter Harris) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:53:29 +0900 Subject: HW:Passports Message-ID: Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > > At 11:44 11.10.98 +0100, you wrote: > >Hello everybody, > >I just wondered if anyone has had a reply back from the > >Hawkwind visitor passports yet? > >I sent off my application right away but so far have heard nothing. > > I am waiting as well :-(( > > BernhardI got mine back on Monday, how are you supposed to fill it in??!! By the way, I am now on secondment to Japan for the foreseeable future which means that I am half a world away from my address book, can someone let me have the address for the passports, and remind me of the Mission Control web address? Thanks DaveG From StevenTice at AOL.COM Wed Oct 14 01:30:04 1998 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 01:30:04 EDT Subject: BOC This Ain't the Summer of Love Message-ID: In a message dated 98-10-13 19:30:17 EDT, you write: << REMEMBER: This song was NOT written by BOC. It was written by an LA band called The Imperial Dogs (the Australian label Dog Meat released their unreleased LP a few years ago, which includes the original version of "This Ain't The Summer Of Love") and was subsequently "borrowed" by Pearlman/BOC. So these are probably (sorry, don't have the record in front of me) the original, correct, credits. >> I'm sure Albert Bouchard will be shocked to hear that he didn't actually write this song! Perhaps there's another song of the same name, but the BOC song was written by Albert Bouchard with contributions from producer Murray Krugman and the song's title by Donald Waller. At least, that's what Albert told ME in a discussion on the Brain Surgeons board...are you suggesting he stole this song from a demo laying around at Columbia or something? SET From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Oct 14 04:08:40 1998 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Rich Lockwood) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:08:40 +0100 Subject: BOC: Scream Message-ID: Andy Gilham wrote: > > What does everybody think about This Ain't the Summer of Love by > L7, > > Not too hot. Thud bang crash. > > However, the Mutton Birds' version of "Reaper" from _The Frighteners_ > is > really superb. > > - Andy > > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; > http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham As is the version by the Bridewell Taxis which I picked up a few years ago on some ropey indie collection tape... Cheers, Rich. ** http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/6717/mag.html ** From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Wed Oct 14 07:35:01 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:35:01 -0400 Subject: BOC: Binghamton Message-ID: When was the justsurfit concert? > ---------- > From: Laj Waldner[SMTP:erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 1998 4:53 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: BOC: Binghamton > > Hall, Russell J wrote: > > > As far as bad sound goes, did any of you catch BOC on > www.liveconcerts.com? > > The sound there was very bad. Buck and Eric were completely drowned out > by > > Danny and Bobby. > > > > > > The sound quality was quit bad, it started out sounding really good but > after > BFY it quickly went down hill. I also tried to watch them at > www.justsurfit.com > a while back where it was broadcast live, but my Media Player kept > buffering > ever 3 seconds making it impossible. > > > Laj. > From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Wed Oct 14 07:36:47 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 07:36:47 -0400 Subject: HW:Passports Message-ID: Can any one tell me what size envelpe is A5? > ---------- > From: Peter Harris[SMTP:d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 12:53 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: HW:Passports > > Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > > > > At 11:44 11.10.98 +0100, you wrote: > > >Hello everybody, > > >I just wondered if anyone has had a reply back from the > > >Hawkwind visitor passports yet? > > >I sent off my application right away but so far have heard nothing. > > > > I am waiting as well :-(( > > > > BernhardI got mine back on Monday, how are you supposed to fill it > in??!! > > By the way, I am now on secondment to Japan for the foreseeable future > which means that I am half a world away from my address book, can > someone let me have the address for the passports, and remind me of the > Mission Control web address? > > Thanks > > DaveG > From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Oct 14 04:30:41 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 09:30:41 +0100 Subject: HW: Sonic boom killers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Andreas writes >I have read in a German music paper that Sonic Boom Killers, the new singles >compilation by HW on Repertoire Records, was remastered by none other than Eroc, >who used to be the drummer in Grobschnitt and who is now a wellknown producer. > >I didn?t care to buy this CD since all the stuff?s been released elsewhere. Has >anyone listened to it and noticed any differences ? > >Andreas Yes, and no, I didn't notice any difference. I wasn't listening for any either though, and had it on in a busy shop, so who knows? I'll have to check it out again. -- Jon From richard.cutting at SYNOPSYS.LTD.UK Wed Oct 14 08:59:44 1998 From: richard.cutting at SYNOPSYS.LTD.UK (Cutting, Richard) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:59:44 +0100 Subject: HW:Passports === Message-ID: Address is http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/ I filled mine in half factually and made up some crap for the rest. Where are we supposed to send them back to ? The address on the web site ? Richard. > ---------- > From: Peter Harris[SMTP:d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: 14 October 1998 05:53 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: HW:Passports > > Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > > > > At 11:44 11.10.98 +0100, you wrote: > > >Hello everybody, > > >I just wondered if anyone has had a reply back from the > > >Hawkwind visitor passports yet? > > >I sent off my application right away but so far have heard nothing. > > > > I am waiting as well :-(( > > > > BernhardI got mine back on Monday, how are you supposed to fill it > in??!! > > By the way, I am now on secondment to Japan for the foreseeable > future > which means that I am half a world away from my address book, can > someone let me have the address for the passports, and remind me of > the > Mission Control web address? > > Thanks > > DaveG > *********************************************************************** LEGAL DISCLAIMER *********************************************************************** The contents of this email and any transmitted files are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Synopsys hereby excludes any warranty and any liability as to the quality or accuracy of the contents of this email and any attached transmitted files. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the Technology Department at Synopsys Ltd. on +44 171 250 1990. *********************************************************************** From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Wed Oct 14 09:18:08 1998 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:18:08 +0100 Subject: HW:Passports === In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 13:59 14/10/98 +0100, Cutting, Richard wrote: >Address is http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hwind/ > >I filled mine in half factually and made up some crap for the rest. It would be very tempting to use fake photos of aliens, etc. But maybe this will be used as a pass for entry to special events, in which case that might backfire? Dave. Harlequin Ltd., Lismore House, 127 George St, Edinburgh, EH2 4JN, UK. Tel: +44 131 240 6106. From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Wed Oct 14 13:14:42 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:14:42 -0400 Subject: BOC: NHL/BOC connection? Message-ID: I was watching the SportsCenter hockey highlights durning lunch and noticed that a player for the new Nashville Predators was named Joe Bouchard. Or at least it sounded like Bouchard. Any hockey-heads know for sure? I wouldn't mention it except that list traffic has reached yet another lull. Off topic aside: It really bothers me that so many Canadian teams are relocating to the Southern US. And that a state like Minnesota has to make due with an IHL team. I think I'll quit watching the games and just rent "Slapshot"... Brian obUnfortunateFavoriteTeam> New York Islanders ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Oct 14 13:20:27 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:20:27 +0100 Subject: HW: Sonic boom killers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well apart from the fact that I was listening to CD versions of old vinyl records, no. Z Mercury rev - Holes At 19:41 13/10/1998 +0200, you wrote: >I have read in a German music paper that Sonic Boom Killers, the new singles >compilation by HW on Repertoire Records, was remastered by none other than Eroc, >who used to be the drummer in Grobschnitt and who is now a wellknown producer. > >I didn?t care to buy this CD since all the stuff?s been released elsewhere. Has >anyone listened to it and noticed any differences ? > >Andreas > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER c/o Shamrock Multimedia,PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Wed Oct 14 13:45:27 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 13:45:27 -0400 Subject: NHL/BOC connection? Message-ID: I've always thought that some team (Islanders/Rangers) should play "Beat 'em Up" during the fights. > ---------- > From: brian halligan[SMTP:brianh at PULLEYN.COM] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 1:14 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: BOC: NHL/BOC connection? > > I was watching the SportsCenter hockey highlights durning lunch and > noticed > that a player for the new Nashville Predators was named Joe Bouchard. Or > at > least it sounded like Bouchard. Any hockey-heads know for sure? I > wouldn't > mention it except that list traffic has reached yet another lull. > > Off topic aside: > It really bothers me that so many Canadian teams are relocating to the > Southern US. And that a state like Minnesota has to make due with an IHL > team. I think I'll quit watching the games and just rent "Slapshot"... > > Brian > obUnfortunateFavoriteTeam> New York Islanders > > ---------- > Brian Halligan > mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com > http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html > > "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." > -Fierce Wicker > ---------- > From matthewc at MICROSOFT.COM Wed Oct 14 14:40:10 1998 From: matthewc at MICROSOFT.COM (Matthew Crinklaw) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 11:40:10 -0700 Subject: OFF: NHL/BOC connection? Message-ID: It's Joel Bouchard. Also next year the NHL will be back in MN with expansion. Matt -----Original Message----- From: brian halligan [mailto:brianh at PULLEYN.COM] Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 10:15 AM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: BOC: NHL/BOC connection? I was watching the SportsCenter hockey highlights durning lunch and noticed that a player for the new Nashville Predators was named Joe Bouchard. Or at least it sounded like Bouchard. Any hockey-heads know for sure? I wouldn't mention it except that list traffic has reached yet another lull. Off topic aside: It really bothers me that so many Canadian teams are relocating to the Southern US. And that a state like Minnesota has to make due with an IHL team. I think I'll quit watching the games and just rent "Slapshot"... Brian obUnfortunateFavoriteTeam> New York Islanders ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Wed Oct 14 14:40:03 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:40:03 -0400 Subject: HW: Where to now Message-ID: I have been meaning to thank you all for iving me new things to spend my money on. Hawkwind. Savatage, King's X, etc. Anywho, I have exhausted all the local places of Hawkwind titles. So I am planning to make an order from www.musicbvld.com, and I am unsure what to order. My collection to date consists of Choose Your Masques Hall of the Mountain Grill Sonic Attack Independent Days v1 & 2 Levitation Mighty Hawkwind Classics 80 - 85 Space is Deep Hawkwind Classics I would like to stay away from any more compilations or live CDs. Please advise. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Oct 14 15:04:25 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:04:25 EDT Subject: eric's gutar In-Reply-To: <2F2DC5CE035DD1118C8E00805FFE354C066414B9@RED-MSG-56> Message-ID: In my comments about the binghamton gig I forgot to mention EB's guitar. He now has 2 of the Kronos paint-job models. The original with a blue paint job, and a great-looking new one, with red and yellow flames around the edges, and the Kronos symbol in black in the middle. They're great guitars, both in sound and appearance, but I recall that they're quite expensive, befitting a limited production hand made instrument. Anyone got a pic of the new one on their web page yet? theo From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Oct 14 15:04:02 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:04:02 -0400 Subject: HW: Where to now Message-ID: >My collection to date consists of >Choose Your Masques >Hall of the Mountain Grill >Sonic Attack >Independent Days v1 & 2 >Levitation >Mighty Hawkwind Classics 80 - 85 >Space is Deep >Hawkwind Classics > >I would like to stay away from any more compilations or live CDs. Recommend the following first: 1. Hall of the Mountain Grill - classic stuff, Paradox, You'd Better Believe it, Lost Johnny, D-Rider, Psychadelic Warlords, etc. As one album rater put it, "If you collect Hawkwind and don't have this, you don't collect hawkwind" (paraphrasing)... They don't get much better than this. 2. Levitation - somewhat debated on here at times. Smooth as silk, polished stuff with Ginger Baker's excellent drumming (oddly the source of some of the debate)... Some argue that it lacks "soul"... "The 5th Second of Forever" in particular always gets me in a certain way, as well as "prelude/who's gonna win the war"... Regardless, a must have... After these two, based on your desire to avoid comps, I'd probably go with Choose your Masques and Sonic Attack, since they are legit albums. There are quite a few HW albums I'd place above them, though, assuming you already have them). The rest are comps, IIRC. Check the Codex. Or Sonique's page. Oh, yeah, and after these, I'd advise "Caution", if you can find it. Try SFR. ============================================ While outside on the Turnpike They've got this new hit tune Thrills become as cheap as gas and gas as cheap as thrills. - "Before the Kiss (A Redcap)" by Blue ?yster Cult -AAA From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Wed Oct 14 15:11:04 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:11:04 -0400 Subject: BOC: NHL/BOC connection? Message-ID: Matthew Crinklaw [mailto:matthewc at MICROSOFT.COM] says: >It's Joel Bouchard. Also next year the NHL will be back in MN with >expansion. > >Matt Well, I was close. That's good news about MN. As far as Russell's wish for "Beat 'Em Up" being played during fights- if Trevor Hoffman can come out to the pitchers' mound to "Hell's Bells" during SD Padre home games, than anything is possible. Brian ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Wed Oct 14 15:32:52 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:32:52 -0400 Subject: HW: Where to now Message-ID: The ones listed are already mine - where to from hrere? > ---------- > From: Andrew A. Apold[SMTP:mordru at FLITE.NET] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 3:04 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: HW: Where to now > > >My collection to date consists of > >Choose Your Masques > >Hall of the Mountain Grill > >Sonic Attack > >Independent Days v1 & 2 > >Levitation > >Mighty Hawkwind Classics 80 - 85 > >Space is Deep > >Hawkwind Classics > > > >I would like to stay away from any more compilations or live CDs. > > Recommend the following first: > > 1. Hall of the Mountain Grill - classic stuff, Paradox, You'd Better > Believe it, Lost Johnny, D-Rider, Psychadelic Warlords, etc. > As one album rater put it, "If you collect Hawkwind and don't > have this, you don't collect hawkwind" (paraphrasing)... > They don't get much better than this. > > 2. Levitation - somewhat debated on here at times. Smooth as silk, > polished stuff with Ginger Baker's excellent drumming (oddly > the source of some of the debate)... Some argue that it > lacks "soul"... "The 5th Second of Forever" in particular > always gets me in a certain way, as well as "prelude/who's > gonna win the war"... Regardless, a must have... > > After these two, based on your desire to avoid comps, I'd probably > go with Choose your Masques and Sonic Attack, since they are legit > albums. There are quite a few HW albums I'd place above them, though, > assuming you already have them). > > The rest are comps, IIRC. Check the Codex. Or Sonique's page. > > Oh, yeah, and after these, I'd advise "Caution", if you can find > it. Try SFR. > > > ============================================ > While outside on the Turnpike > They've got this new hit tune > Thrills become as cheap as gas > and gas as cheap as thrills. > > - "Before the Kiss (A Redcap)" > by Blue ?yster Cult > > > -AAA > From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Wed Oct 14 15:36:31 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:36:31 -0400 Subject: BOC: eric's gutar Message-ID: >Anyone got a pic of the new one on their web >page yet? > >theo There's a few pics on the Harperz Guitarz page: http://members.aol.com/harpergtrs/ Brian ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Oct 14 15:40:35 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:40:35 -0400 Subject: HW: Where to now In-Reply-To: <199810141904.PAA02309@in.flite.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Oct 1998, Andrew A. Apold wrote: => >My collection to date consists of => >Choose Your Masques => >Hall of the Mountain Grill => >Sonic Attack => >Independent Days v1 & 2 => >Levitation => >Mighty Hawkwind Classics 80 - 85 => >Space is Deep => >Hawkwind Classics => > => >I would like to stay away from any more compilations or live CDs. => => Recommend the following first: => => 1. Hall of the Mountain Grill - classic stuff, Paradox, You'd Better => Believe it, Lost Johnny, D-Rider, Psychadelic Warlords, etc. => As one album rater put it, "If you collect Hawkwind and don't => have this, you don't collect hawkwind" (paraphrasing)... => They don't get much better than this. => => 2. Levitation - somewhat debated on here at times. Smooth as silk, => polished stuff with Ginger Baker's excellent drumming (oddly => the source of some of the debate)... Some argue that it => lacks "soul"... "The 5th Second of Forever" in particular => always gets me in a certain way, as well as "prelude/who's => gonna win the war"... Regardless, a must have... => => After these two, based on your desire to avoid comps, I'd probably => go with Choose your Masques and Sonic Attack, since they are legit => albums. There are quite a few HW albums I'd place above them, though, => assuming you already have them). It seems like you are recommending everything he already has, Andrew! Even though you say you want to stay away from live CDs, for my 2p, I'd say every Hawkwind fan should attempt to get _Space Ritual_. You also can't go wrong with _The 1999 Party_---especially if you like what you hear on _Hall of the Mountain Grill_ and would like to know what some of those sound like live. You seem to be a bit thin on Calvert-era Hawkwind, too, so you might consider picking up _Quark, Strangeness and Charm_. Likewise, for more contemporary Hawkwind, you could consider _Electric Tepee_. And, of course, there's the classic _Warrior on the Edge of Time_... One thing I've found through BOC-L is that no two Hawkfans seem to be able to decide whether any given album is worth getting or not. For every person who ranks something at the top of their list, there's always some come crawling out of the woodwork to say it's the worst thing Hawkwind have ever done. So, it would benefit you to describe your tastes a bit better, and say what amongst your current collection you like (and your preferences in general). Then, people could steer you a bit better. Cheers, Paul. obCD-R: Gov't Mule, Trees---Dallas, Texas, 4/4/98 e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Oct 14 15:48:31 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:48:31 -0400 Subject: HW: Where to now Message-ID: >The ones listed are already mine - where to from hrere? Whoops. My mistake, should read more carefully. Hokay, in purely biased opinion: 1. Warrior on the Edge of Time IIRC, this one won a number of hawkbrawls, especially Assault/Golden Void winning the song ones. But apart from some of the spoken Moorcock bits (which I don't care for), the rest is pretty good too. I like the Dojo one which also has "Motorhead" on it. 2. Quark, Strangeness & Charm 3. Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music Both of these heavily Calvert albums benefited greatly from his return, the lyrics on ASAM's "Steppenwolf" might just be my favorite lyrics form any Hawkwind song. QS&C has the excellent Spirit of the Age, Damnation Alley, and the title track. Good contributions from others, like Simon House.... rate QS&C slightly higher because of Rudolph et al. trying to steer Hawkwind into a disco mode on some of the latter tracks... 4. Chronicle of the Black Sword (though I prefer Live Chronicles, you said you prefer no more live albums). If you can get past Danny Thompson's drumming, an excellent album. Though that is a matter of some debate on here, you should check it for yourself... As with most cds, if there is a griffin version, go for it, they generally do an excellent job packaging, incorporating stuff originally with the album and tour programs, etc. The ASAM job they did was first-rate... After that, there quite a few ways you can go, depending on what you like more... I'd place Space Bandits and Church of Hawkwind as good candidates, but there are live albums (such as Space Ritual, The Business Trip, Live '79, etc. that I think would be worth considering first...) ============================================ she was looking for me.. so I went aboard It was dark in the hold-- and almost as cold as the infinite vaccuum itself - "Starcruiser" by Michael Moorcock's Deep Fix -AAA From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Oct 14 20:25:54 1998 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:25:54 -0400 Subject: This Ain't the Summer (was: Re: BOC: Scream) Message-ID: >Ain't The Summer Of Love") and was subsequently "borrowed" by Pearlman/BOC. > So these are probably (sorry, don't have the record in front of me) the >original, correct, credits. Ahem... This was not "borrowed" by anyone. Waller came up with the title, Krugman fleshed out the lyrics and I wrote the music. Waller was delighted with the whole arrangement until there was actual money involved then everybody wants to rewrite history! Ha Ha Al From khaywolf at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Oct 14 21:05:36 1998 From: khaywolf at GEOCITIES.COM (Wolf Klauschie) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 18:05:36 -0700 Subject: HW: Where to now Message-ID: My picks: 1. Doremi Fasol Latido - Thoroughly primal. 2. Warrior on the Edge of Time - Wonderfully weird. 3. PXR5 - because it has "High Rise", my absolute favorite song. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Wed Oct 14 23:26:42 1998 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 23:26:42 -0400 Subject: HW: Where to now Message-ID: My choices... (Not too much different...just adding a supporting voice) Warrior on the Edge of Time Space Ritual Quark, Strangeness, and Charm Palace Springs (mostly live, but studio-like sound, with overdubs?) Electric Tepee Astouding Sounds, Amazing Music That would round out your collection pretty well. Keith H. (FAA) ObCD: 7% Solution - All about Satellites and Spaceships From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Wed Oct 14 23:13:54 1998 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:13:54 -0500 Subject: BOC: Binghamton Message-ID: Hall, Russell J wrote: > When was the justsurfit concert? Ya know, I don't really remember, it was about a month or so ago now, they were there with Starship for sure, they were the third band out of four anyway, don't remember who even headlined the thing, I asked Just Serf It if they were ever going to offer this concert as an archive and they said yes, but as of yet it still hasn't happened. Laj. From johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM Thu Oct 15 00:22:35 1998 From: johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 06:22:35 +0200 Subject: HW:Passports Message-ID: At 07:36 1998-10-14 -0400, you wrote: >Can any one tell me what size envelpe is A5? could be half an A4. or 148x209mm. don't know what it is in inch or yard or whatever odd length unit you may use ;0) -joe, 187cm From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Wed Oct 14 23:54:24 1998 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 22:54:24 -0500 Subject: BOC: This Aint The Summer Of Love Message-ID: Hi, has anybody ever heard the Imperial Dogs rendition of TATSOL, does it resemble the BOC version at all, Albert just posted that the only thing Waller did was come up with the title, I never heard anything about this before actually and I am rather curious about the whole thing. It was re-released by Dog Meat Records out of Australia, when was the original LP recorded? I tried looking up Dog Meat Records on the net but found nothing. I don't know much about the whole song writing credit thing, but, if Waller only came up with the song title why was his name credited to begin with? From richard.cutting at SYNOPSYS.LTD.UK Thu Oct 15 06:33:06 1998 From: richard.cutting at SYNOPSYS.LTD.UK (Cutting, Richard) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:33:06 +0100 Subject: HW: Bedouin Last Night === Message-ID: Oh god, my head is throbbing, my whole body aches and I have a strange ringing in my ears, who could have believed that three people could cause so much damage........ Bedouin seriously rock, anyone who hasn't seen them yet should get out and do so, just so you can suffer like I am at the moment......( I think it was Sputnik Stan that did it, I've never heard it played quite like THAT before. ) Richard. P.S. Hello to Carl & Andy who I met last night. 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Selection of stuff from both his albums, and his Hawkwind favourites. Sounded more like Hawkwind than Hawkwind at times, not surprising since Alan's had a major hand in defining the Hawkwind sound for many years! Finished gone midnight with "LSD", leaving us with a choice of minicab hell or night bus hell. Minicab hell prevailed. Who's up for Motorhead on Saturday then? And what's this about a Rob Zombie/Monster Magnet gig in December eh? - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU Thu Oct 15 08:42:01 1998 From: sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:42:01 +1000 Subject: HW: Hawkwind/Killing Joke connection? In-Reply-To: <362425F4.4F8D6B2@execpc.com> Message-ID: On 13 Oct 98, at 23:17, Karen Kusic wrote about HW: Hawkwind/Killing Joke connection?: > http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/links.html > > Was kind of surprised (although pleasantly) to see a Killing Joke link > above his Nik Turner link in the Music section! ... > Just "clutching at straws . . ." How'd you manage to fit a Marillion link into a KJ-HW link? ;^) > bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK wrote: > Get Youth doing remixes of Hawkwind. Now there's a thought... Funnily enough, Dave Brock mentioned something along those lines when I spoke to him in May ...... Soniqu? -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique / \( o`-, ----- may sonique at mail.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they UIN #14292706 on ICQ /////// : ; --- Fly! From shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM Thu Oct 15 08:49:25 1998 From: shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:49:25 +0100 Subject: OFF: Motorhead Message-ID: Andy Gilham writes :- Who's up for Motorhead on Saturday then? ME ! Neil S. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 15 09:25:09 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:25:09 +0100 Subject: HW: Where to now In-Reply-To: Hall, Russell J's message of Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:40:03 -0400 Message-ID: Hall, Russell J writes: > My collection to date consists of > Choose Your Masques > Hall of the Mountain Grill > Sonic Attack > Independent Days v1 & 2 > Levitation > Mighty Hawkwind Classics 80 - 85 > Space is Deep > Hawkwind Classics > > I would like to stay away from any more compilations or live CDs. I'd make Space Ritual and Palace Springs the exceptions to your "No live CDs" rule. If you liked Mountain Grill then I'd get Warrior on the Edge of Time which is pretty much a sister album to it. You don't have any of the Bob Calvert era stuff there so I'd rush out and buy Quark, Strangeness and Charm. You're also missing the 90's stuff. I'd go for "The Business Trip" but since that's a live album you might want "Electric Tepee" instead. FoFP From clemens at TRAIL.COM Thu Oct 15 09:42:00 1998 From: clemens at TRAIL.COM (Clemens) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:42:00 -0600 Subject: HW: Where to now Message-ID: >I have been meaning to thank you all for giving me new things to >spend my >money on. >Hawkwind. Savatage, King's X, etc. >Anywho, I have exhausted all the local places of Hawkwind titles. So >I am >planning to >make an order from www.musicbvld.com, and I am unsure what to >order My recommendations include: In Search of Space Doremi Fasol Latido Space Ritual Warrior on the Edge of Time Quark, Strangeness and Charm (of the last two, they are available in a box with a book-a Collectors Guide to Hawkwind) Mark L. From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Thu Oct 15 09:44:12 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:44:12 -0400 Subject: HW: Thank You Message-ID: Thank you all for your input. I have tabulated the results and now have a good shoping list in mind. I did not mean to sound like I hated Live albums - after all ETL is my favorite BOC CD - I just prefer the studio version (usually). I will endevour pick up Space Ritual (along with Warrior and Quark), since most of ya'll seem to swear by it. Thanks again. P.S> What is up with the Yuri Gagarin CD(s) (sp?) From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Thu Oct 15 10:01:08 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:01:08 -0400 Subject: HW: Where to now Message-ID: > Warrior on the Edge of Time > Quark, Strangeness and Charm > (of the last two, they are available in a box with a book-a Collectors > Guide > to Hawkwind) > two CD's, one box, one book? Sounds cool. I hope that this is available in the US. From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Thu Oct 15 10:05:58 1998 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 15:05:58 +0100 Subject: OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: <199810151249.NAA09134@achemar.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Neil Shilladay wrote: > Andy Gilham writes :- > > Who's up for Motorhead on Saturday then? > > ME ! > > Neil S. Me too! Mike w From abrevard at SHL.COM Thu Oct 15 10:31:23 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 07:31:23 -0700 Subject: OFF: Wise Investments Message-ID: >I have been meaning to thank you all for iving me new things to spend my money on. Hawkwind. Savatage, King's X, etc. No problemo, wise investments all. I can't be of much help with the Hawkwind but if you need any advice regarding King's X or Savatage just holler. Ghost In The Ruins From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Oct 15 11:46:31 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:46:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Where to now Message-ID: >>My collection to date consists of >>Choose Your Masques >>Hall of the Mountain Grill >>Sonic Attack >>Independent Days v1 & 2 >>Levitation >>Mighty Hawkwind Classics 80 - 85 >>Space is Deep >>Hawkwind Classics IMO, the best is yet to come! (Barring HotMG, which does rule mightily!) _Space Ritual_ is a must. Classic, roaring, live Hawkwind. From the other early stuff, I recommend _In Search of Space_ and _1999 Party_. Although much of _Doremi Fasol Latido_ is reproduced live on _Space Ritual_, it is IMO worth the price of admission for Lemmy's bass solo in "Time We Left"; _Space Ritual II_ for the same reason! From the late stuff, I point to _Palace Springs_ and _Electric Teepee_, which I'm not totally happy with, but have some top-rate stuff. _California Brainstorm_ hasn't the world's best sound, but the "Out of the Shadows > Snake Dance > Night of the Hawks" storms utterly. Something Calvert-era for the full Hawkwind experience, probably _Quark, Strangeness & Charm_, though one of the Calvert-era comps would also be OK, like _Tales from Atomhenge_. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Oct 15 11:48:09 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:48:09 +0100 Subject: OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OK, the now-usual boc-l Brixton meeting place, the Beehive? Dunno when, 7-ish sound good? - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Oct 15 11:49:37 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:49:37 +0100 Subject: OFF: Motorhead Message-ID: I shall also be there on Saturday--meet in the Beehive beforehand? Cheers, Carl ps--Rob Zombie and Monster Magnet play the Astoria, 15 Dec! -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Oct 15 14:15:32 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 19:15:32 +0100 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_HW:_Bedouin_Last_Night_=3D=3D=3D?= Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 1:10 pm +0100 "Andy Gilham" wrote: > Yep, it was fun. Nice little venue, a bit sparsely populated: about 60-100 > people all told, I'd say, at various stages of the evening, with about 20 > groovers at the front. :) > > There was a support band, Define, who were a rather grisly bunch of Floyd > wannabes. Part Floyd, part "Indie" band of death. They had a few moments but were otherwise strictly for lame-o trendies. They were worryingly clean-cut. > Alan seemed to be enjoying himself! Selection of stuff from both his > albums, and his Hawkwind favourites. Sounded more like Hawkwind than > Hawkwind at times, not surprising since Alan's had a major hand in defining > the Hawkwind sound for many years! Yeah, I really dug Bedouin again. Totally tremendous band-- what more can I say. With a somewhat larger audience to provide some more atmosphere, they would be tough to beat. IMO, it's a treat to see Alan Davey liberated from the confines of Hawkwind. Jeez, I can scarcely believe I wrote that, but it's true. For the last decade at least, Hawkwind's main strengths have been a superb backcatalogue of songs and Alan's input (when he didn't let himself get carried away by synths and sequencers!). But Alan has really dropped about a ton of adrenilin into his HW-era compositions, and his new stuff is shaping up well as one might expect. I've not heard the album still, and I suppose in the studio there will yet be a danger for Bedouin letting the groovy toys get in the way, but the stripped-down, space-metal assualt which they do live serves up a huge chunk of cosmic blanga. Bedouin doesn't much arse about, and does rock muchly. > Who's up for Motorhead on Saturday then? Ich! > And what's this about a Rob Zombie/Monster Magnet gig in December eh? On the 15th, I believe. I'm there. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From clemens at TRAIL.COM Thu Oct 15 14:11:13 1998 From: clemens at TRAIL.COM (Clemens) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:11:13 -0600 Subject: HW:Passports Message-ID: >Can any one tell me what size envelpe is A5? Well, I sent a standard business size envelope and that worked, I got my passport yesterday, but if you look in your word processor under format for envelopes it should have the dimensions. Mark L. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Oct 15 14:56:05 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 14:56:05 EDT Subject: HW: Bedouin Last Night === In-Reply-To: <8067.3117467732@mac007.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: > From: "Carl E. Anderson" > > > And what's this about a Rob Zombie/Monster Magnet gig in December eh? > > On the 15th, I believe. I'm there. > > Cheers, > Carl Hey, that very lineup is playing 29 Oct down the road in Utica, along with Fear Factory. Anyone going? theo From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Thu Oct 15 16:18:23 1998 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 20:18:23 +0000 Subject: BOC: Scream In-Reply-To: <000701bdf6f7$ab3d05a0$f82e63c3@default> Message-ID: On 13 Oct 98 at 23:20, Andy Gilham wrote: > > What does everybody think about This Ain't the Summer of Love by L7, > > Not too hot. Thud bang crash. > > However, the Mutton Birds' version of "Reaper" from _The > Frighteners_ is really superb. > L7's version of "Three Days" on the Willie Nelson covers album "Twisted Willie" is great tho!! Alasdair -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Oct 15 16:31:09 1998 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:31:09 -0700 Subject: This Ain't the Summer (was: Re: BOC: Scream) Message-ID: Looks like I was (mostly) wrong ... On Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:25:54 -0400, Albert T Bouchard (who was there!) wrote: (after I wrote): DP>>Ain't The Summer Of Love") and was subsequently "borrowed" by Pearlman/BOC. DP>> So these are probably (sorry, don't have the record in front of me) the DP>>original, correct, credits. > AB>Ahem... This was not "borrowed" by anyone. Waller came up with the title, AB>Krugman fleshed out the lyrics and I wrote the music. Waller was delighted AB>with the whole arrangement until there was actual money involved then AB>everybody wants to rewrite history! Ha Ha AB>Al Thanks for setting the record straight (and I never meant to imply that any "borrowing" was unauthorized) ... again, I don't actually own a copy of the Imperial Dogs record (unfortunately, as it's a good example of post-Stooges pre-punk 70s rock, was very limited to begin with [which would lead me to believe that nobody made much $ off of it] and is now waaaay out of print), but as I recall, it didn't include Bouchard/Krugman (oops! NOT Pearlman) in the credits, which is what led me to believe that it was "originally" an Imprerial Dogs tune, so I always figured it was a good example of Al's talents in re-writing/fleshing-out/otherwise completing already-written (but not "finished") songs. FWIW, as I remember the Imperial Dogs version, it sounded like a "less complete" version relative to the BOC version, but definitely the same song (perhaps analagous to the "I'm on the lamb..." / tR&tB situation?). Again, I may have a slightly warped historical perspective, but I recall hearing that Pearlman was interested in signing the Imperial Dogs to Columbia, but they broke up before it could happen ... so S.P. eventually went with the Dictators instead .... any truth to this, or just more "rewritten history"? As for Dog Meat records, they were an Australian label who haven't been around for a few years (and were also known in an earlier, late 80s, incarnation as Grown Up Wrong); they released the Imperial Dogs LP sometime in the early 90s. (ObTenuousHawkwindConnection: one of Dog Meat's other releases was a mini-LP by Brother J.T.'s short-lived band Fuzzface, whose only other recording was the track "Urban Guerilla" on the Hawkwind tribute). They put out some very cool punk/psych type crossover stuff. I seem to remember the recording dates for the Imperial Dogs album as 74/75, which would have put it before AoF (thus leading me to believe...), but again, I could be wrong ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Oct 15 17:15:43 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:15:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: <199810151249.NAA09134@achemar.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> Message-ID: At 13:49 15/10/98 +0100, you wrote: >Andy Gilham writes :- > >Who's up for Motorhead on Saturday then? > > >ME ! > >Neil S. > I would have been, except that I just (unexpectedly) won the battle to have the kids for a weekend instead of just a Sunday - the next three weekends in fact. Good news, but terrible timing, n'est-ce pas? ChrisW NP: Jack Bruce "Cities of the Heart" (The 50th Birthday Concert) Free your mind & watch your ass! From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Thu Oct 15 22:21:10 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 22:21:10 -0400 Subject: HW:Passports Message-ID: A5 is a 6X9 envelope. They were just being nice if they accepted the other. Unless of course my local postman got the wrong answer when he called a UK post office to find out for me! =) >>Can any one tell me what size envelpe is A5? > >Well, I sent a standard business size envelope and that worked, I got my >passport yesterday, but if you look in your word processor under format for >envelopes it should have the dimensions. > >Mark L. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Oct 16 00:09:29 1998 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 00:09:29 -0400 Subject: OFF: Rother/Moebius US mini-tour Message-ID: Hi Folks... Michael Rother (Neu!) and Dieter Moebius (Cluster) will be coming to the US for some concerts soon. October 23 The Cooler New York New York October 24 The Cooler New York New York October 26 The Empty BottleChicago Illinois November 3 Spaceland Los Angeles California November 5 TBA Seattle Washington Here is a web page with the tour dates. http://www.onalarm.com/romoebtour.html Here is a page with some information on the Los Angeles venue. http://www.rockcitynews.com/clubs/spaceland/index.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Unfortunately, the Chicago show, the closest for me, is a Monday night. :( Keith H. (FAA) ObCD: Anubian Lights - Let not the flame die out P.S. Anybody know where I can pick up the new Eloy - Ocean II disc? From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Oct 16 01:58:20 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 06:58:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well I've already seen them this week, so I'll give it a miss. I doubt I could hear it anyway. Z At 15:05 15/10/1998 +0100, you wrote: >On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Neil Shilladay wrote: > >> Andy Gilham writes :- >> >> Who's up for Motorhead on Saturday then? >> >> ME ! >> >> Neil S. > >Me too! > >Mike w > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER c/o Shamrock Multimedia,PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Fri Oct 16 07:25:45 1998 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:25:45 +0100 Subject: OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: <000301bdf853$35819260$4e3f63c3@default> Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Andy Gilham wrote: > OK, the now-usual boc-l Brixton meeting place, the Beehive? Dunno when, > 7-ish sound good? > > - Andy sounds good to me Mike w From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Oct 16 07:48:26 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 12:48:26 +0100 Subject: HW: Thank You Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 9:44 am -0400 "Hall, Russell J" wrote: > I will endevour pick up Space Ritual (along > with Warrior and Quark), > since most of ya'll seem to swear by it. Be sure to get the EMI remastered CDs of _Space Ritual_, not the old One Way CDs. The remasters are *far* superior! > P.S> What is up with the Yuri Gagarin CD(s) (sp?) They sound terrible :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Oct 16 08:30:22 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:30:22 +0100 Subject: OFF: Motorhead Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 4:48 pm +0100 "Andy Gilham" wrote: > OK, the now-usual boc-l Brixton meeting place, the Beehive? Dunno when, > 7-ish sound good? So let it be written, so let it be done. -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Oct 16 08:00:38 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 13:00:38 +0100 Subject: OFF: Motorhead Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 15, 1998 10:15 pm +0100 "Chris Warburton" wrote: > I would have been, except that I just (unexpectedly) won the battle to have > the kids for a weekend instead of just a Sunday - the next three weekends > in fact. Good news, but terrible timing, n'est-ce pas? Hey, if Motorhead are still going when I've got kids, I'll take 'em along :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Oct 16 09:12:48 1998 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Rich Lockwood) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:12:48 +0100 Subject: OFF: Motorhead Message-ID: Neil Shilladay wrote: > Andy Gilham writes :- > > Who's up for Motorhead on Saturday then? > > ME ! > > Neil S. ME! Cheers, Rich. From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Oct 16 09:30:02 1998 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Rich Lockwood) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:30:02 +0100 Subject: OFF: Motorhead Message-ID: Andy Gilham wrote: > OK, the now-usual boc-l Brixton meeting place, the Beehive? Dunno > when, > 7-ish sound good? > > - Andy See you there - look out for the new BEER POWERED haircut... (BTW Andy - someone *is* nicking my post! I'll try and get that tape I promised ready for tomorrow.!) Cheers, Rich. ObCD: ORGASMATRON! From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Fri Oct 16 10:41:28 1998 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:41:28 -0400 Subject: BOC: Binghamton Message-ID: >Back to Lurkerdom while I await the John Swartz debut album "The Bass Player Nobody Knows" hehehehhehehehe HEY - I'm back catching up on e-mail and AB's comment just reminded me of something... John Swartz has now been officially seen "live" as a bassplayer... That's right folks, my reputation as a phantom bassist has been possibly irrevocably damaged. Chalk it up to too much alchohol, but the story goes as follows: Last Saturday, my little sister got married. The music for the reception was provided by the "Big Bad Bollocks" - a wacky Irish trio which I am not quite sure how to describe (I should ammend that they are a foursome, not a trio - oops) - kind of like a traditional Irish band on speed with their amps on 11. But, they were a hell of a lot of fun - and, well, I guess I had a little bit too much to drink and lost some of my normal inhibitions. They started playing this slow waltz where they had my sis playing the drums, and the bassplayer was not playing. So, seeing that the guitarist was playing G, C, and D chords, I figured I could handle the gig, and after getting the singers permission, strapped on the Fender Precision and played along. Wasn't exactly "Dominance and Submission", but it was 2 minutes of good fun (and I think the event was captured in pictures). Luckily, everyone else at the reception was probably too drunk to remember it... :-) John From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Fri Oct 16 10:43:33 1998 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 10:43:33 -0400 Subject: BOC: Scream Message-ID: > What does everybody think about This Ain't the Summer of Love by L7, this too I didn't like, I really hated the vocal especially, but then again I don't like anything L7 has done, I'm not familiar w/L7, but about a year ago I did hear this version on the radio -- personally, I thought it was pretty good. A grungier, 90s version of the song, but very true to BOC's version. John From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Oct 16 11:43:14 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 11:43:14 -0400 Subject: BOC: Scream Message-ID: >> What does everybody think about This Ain't the Summer of Love by L7, >this too I didn't like, I really hated the vocal especially, but then >again I don't like anything L7 has done, > >I'm not familiar w/L7, but about a year ago I did hear this version on >the radio -- personally, I thought it was pretty good. A grungier, 90s >version of the song, but very true to BOC's version. Ah, didn't L7 do that "shitlist" song on "Natural Born Killers"? I think I remember hearing something by them about bricks also. Not all that bad. ============================================ I would have like you to have been deep frozen too and waiting still as fresh in your flesh for my return to earth but your father refused to sign the forms to freeze you let's see, you'd be about sixty now and long dead by the time I return to earth -"Spirit of the Age" by Hawkwind (Robert Calvert) (cf. 'Starfarer's Dispatch') -AAA From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Fri Oct 16 12:40:44 1998 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (LN1GJT) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:40:44 +0000 Subject: HW: Bedouin Last Night === In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Andy, There was quite a few good ol' regulars in the crowd at Bedouin then! Adrian Parr was ther too, as were Colin Wilson/Stuart Barton from "Anomie". Doug and Eve Smith were there too, and John Chase was taking photos! (John does a lot of HW photography for covers etc. - he even designed the cover for Business Trip) I eventually got permission from the manager to video the performance, (they were a bit pissed off letting me do it, as they have their own in-house video facility, which can be hired for some extortionate fee!), and I suspect that that was the reason why the lighting was total crap during the set. Low-intensity red lights come out terrible on video, and "bleed" all over your telly! (Just look at the Chaos Vid!) The in-house video operator also being responsible for the lighting, was probably making sure that most of my film was un-watchable! (Not true though - to his detriment - ha!) Anyhow, having finally packed my gear away, Adrian and I attmpted to find a cab back to Kingston, but luckily found the last train to Richmond, running about a half hour late - to our benefit!) Even though the video is really quite good (except for the middle 15 minutes - when there is no lighting) I'm not really in a position to copy it. - moral obligation etc., but maybe if enough people ask Alan..............!!! Guy T. From johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM Fri Oct 16 11:52:05 1998 From: johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:52:05 +0200 Subject: Off: Paris, France? Message-ID: hi, going to Paris next week to attend a Teradyne sysadm class. there's a gap between Class End's and Flight Home on about 40 hrs next weekend, and I just wonder if somebody's got a slightest idea where the "used vinyl" area in Paris is - and if there's any CD/LP store which can be recommended for the common hawkwind kollektor. with no input, I guess I'll just end up in the eiffel tower... peace -joe From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Fri Oct 16 12:43:09 1998 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:43:09 +0100 Subject: OFF: Motorhead In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 15 Oct 1998 16:49:37 BST." <167759.3117458977@mac007.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: > I shall also be there on Saturday--meet in the Beehive beforehand? enjoy. > ps--Rob Zombie and Monster Magnet play the Astoria, 15 Dec! Count me in for this one. Maybe I will get to see MM in London eventually! Tim ObOTTCD: Strapping Young Lad, _City_ From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Oct 16 13:50:49 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:50:49 +0100 Subject: HW:New album! Message-ID: I've just read this months MOJO and aparently Hawkwind have a new album out called "Distant Horizons". Does anyone know about this? Z NP Mahogany Rush - World Anthem ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER c/o Shamrock Multimedia,PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Fri Oct 16 14:09:41 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 14:09:41 -0400 Subject: HW:New album! In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19981016185049.007a6990@pop.dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Oct 1998, zeitgeist-scot wrote: => I've just read this months MOJO and aparently Hawkwind have a new album out => called "Distant Horizons". => => Does anyone know about this? It's a little early/late for April Fool's, isn't it? Cheers, Paul. PS: _Distant Horizons_ came out quite a while ago! ob2CD-R: Gov't Mule, Trees---Dallas, Texas, 4/4/98 e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET Fri Oct 16 16:05:07 1998 From: corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 16:05:07 -0400 Subject: BOC:Albany (Clifton Park) NY on Saturday 10.17.98 Message-ID: BOC will be playing at the same place as last year, it is just under new management. It is called the "Northern Lights" , which was the "Park West" last year. They have an opening band, doors open at 8, opening band at 9, tix are 12.00. From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Oct 16 18:20:25 1998 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 15:20:25 -0700 Subject: OFF: FS: TAB ... 25 Message-ID: Hello all, Stopped by the local Tower outlet while picking up lunch (as is my habit), and grabbed an extra copy of the Monster Magnet 'TAB ... 25' CDEP. 3 songs, 40 minutes approx., semi-original ('Spine of God' era) lineup with John McBain still on lead guitar. Probably my personal fave Monster Magnet full-length. $6 plus tax plus shipping ... call it $8.00 in the USA. Drop me a line if interested, -Doug ceres at sirius.com From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Fri Oct 16 18:35:52 1998 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:35:52 -0500 Subject: BOC: Scream Message-ID: John A Swartz wrote: > > What does everybody think about This Ain't the Summer of Love by L7, > this too I didn't like, I really hated the vocal especially, but then > again I don't like anything L7 has done, > > I'm not familiar w/L7, but about a year ago I did hear this version on > the radio -- personally, I thought it was pretty good. A grungier, 90s > version of the song, but very true to BOC's version. > > John They do perform the song pretty much intact which is nice, and I am glad to see any band that covers a BOC tune, means more publicity for the Cult, but I just can't get past the vocal. The best BOC cover I have probably ever heard would be the Minutemen's Red and Black, I thought they did a great job of this song, but then again I haven't really heard very many Cult covers. Never heard THFTR's Reaper which im 99.99999% sure I will like, ordered the disk a while ago, must still be in mail land somewhere, or the Radio Birdman , or the Mike Watt rendition of Dominance and Submission which I hear is just killer. Seems to me that the Cult needs a tribute album, wonder why this hasn't happened yet. About L7, heard an album a while ago at a party, can't really remember too much about it, didn't sound too different or exceptional too me, that's just my opinion though. Laj. From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Fri Oct 16 18:42:18 1998 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:42:18 -0500 Subject: BOC: Binghamton Message-ID: John A Swartz wrote: > >Back to Lurkerdom while I await the John Swartz debut album "The Bass > Player Nobody Knows" hehehehhehehehe > > HEY - I'm back catching up on e-mail and AB's comment just reminded me > of something... > > John Swartz has now been officially seen "live" as a bassplayer... > > That's right folks, my reputation as a phantom bassist has been possibly > irrevocably damaged. Chalk it up to too much alchohol, but the story > goes as follows: > > Last Saturday, my little sister got married. The music for the reception > was provided by the "Big Bad Bollocks" - a wacky Irish trio which I am > not quite sure how to describe (I should ammend that they are a foursome, > not a trio - oops) - kind of like a traditional Irish band on speed with > their amps on 11. But, they were a hell of a lot of fun - and, well, I > guess I had a little bit too much to drink and lost some of my normal > inhibitions. They started playing this slow waltz where they had my > sis playing the drums, and the bassplayer was not playing. So, seeing > that the guitarist was playing G, C, and D chords, I figured I could > handle the gig, and after getting the singers permission, strapped on > the Fender Precision and played along. Wasn't exactly "Dominance and > Submission", but it was 2 minutes of good fun (and I think the event was > captured in pictures). > > Luckily, everyone else at the reception was probably too drunk to > remember it... :-) > > John Hey John, are ya going too post some of these pictures on your site, the FAQ man in action ;-). Laj. From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Oct 16 20:21:46 1998 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:21:46 -0400 Subject: This Ain't the Summer (was: Re: BOC: Scream) Message-ID: >perspective, but I recall hearing that Pearlman was interested in signing >the Imperial Dogs to Columbia, but they broke up before it could happen ... >so S.P. eventually went with the Dictators instead .... any truth to this, >or just more "rewritten history"? Wait! Was Don Waller NOT the writer of the Imperial Dogs version? Maybe he stole the title from them and sold it to us!?? I worked on the song in late 75. It was one of the last tunes we wrote before recording AoF. From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Fri Oct 16 20:25:43 1998 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:25:43 -0400 Subject: This Ain't the Summer (was: Re: BOC: Scream) Message-ID: Hmmm: >seem to remember the recording dates for the Imperial Dogs album as 74/75, >which would have put it before AoF (thus leading me to believe...), but >again, I could be wrong ... I'd be interested to know exactly who the writers credited on this recording... and if it's not Don Waller I'd be EXTREMELY interested in getting a copy. From flossbac at WCIC.CIOE.COM Fri Oct 16 19:55:48 1998 From: flossbac at WCIC.CIOE.COM (John Majka) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:55:48 -0400 Subject: HW:New album! In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19981016185049.007a6990@pop.dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: At 06:50 PM 10/16/98 +0100, you wrote: >I've just read this months MOJO and aparently Hawkwind have a new album out >called "Distant Horizons". > >Does anyone know about this? Now that's what I call comedy! John Majka flossbac at wcic.cioe.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Fri Oct 16 21:25:56 1998 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:25:56 -0700 Subject: This Ain't the Summer (was: Re: BOC: Scream) Message-ID: Albert T Bouchard wrote: >Hmmm: > >>seem to remember the recording dates for the Imperial Dogs album as 74/75, >>which would have put it before AoF (thus leading me to believe...), but >>again, I could be wrong ... > >Wait! Was Don Waller NOT the writer of the Imperial Dogs version? Maybe he >stole the title from them and sold it to us!?? I worked on the song in late >75. It was one of the last tunes we wrote before recording AoF. > >I'd be interested to know exactly who the writers credited on this >recording... and if it's not Don Waller I'd be EXTREMELY interested in >getting a copy. This is confusing! (and what I THOUGHT I knew is obviously incorrect, so don't trust anything I have said or will say here until I manage to check out the details!) I'll have to get in touch with my former housemate who owns the Imperial Dogs LP to double-check song credits and liner notes (I THOUGHT I remembered that the credits were D. Waller + others), as well as to get a tape of the song so everyone can hear for themselves. I *did* find the track listing for a tape I made several years ago (when I had access to said housemate's record collection) of "proto-punk" material from 64-77, on which the Imperial Dogs "This Ain't The Summer..." was listed as a 1973 recording (which I must have copied from the liner notes of the LP). Unfortunately, I gave the tape to a female I had the hots for at the time, without retaining a copy for myself (always a stupid move!). Obviously, this will require further research (there may be info buried in old fanzines, too - I found a review on the web from 'Noise For Heroes fanzine at: http://members.webgalaxy.com/nkvd/auslph_l.htm#THE IMPERIAL DOGS, but I have plenty of print stuff buried at home to look through). I will report back to the list with any discoveries, but it may take a few weeks to turn something up. -Doug ceres at sirius.com From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Fri Oct 16 23:23:14 1998 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (Bryan Young) Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:23:14 -0700 Subject: OFF: Monster magnet 25..tab Message-ID: Yeah, it's a great cd for sure. Somebody will snap it up, I'm sure. But I think you're wrong on the 3 song thing. I'd have to check, but I'm sure there's at least 5 songs. One of the songs not listed is the "Tractor" song that just showed up on the new Powertrip album. ("driving my tractor on the drug farm...") Anybody have any information on this cd? Was it before or after "Spine of God"? What are the songs about? Why is it so weird compared to other MM stuff? Thanks! > Hello all, > > Stopped by the local Tower outlet while picking up lunch (as is my habit), > and grabbed an extra copy of the Monster Magnet 'TAB ... 25' CDEP. 3 songs, > 40 minutes approx., semi-original ('Spine of God' era) lineup with John > McBain still on lead guitar. Probably my personal fave Monster Magnet > full-length. > > $6 plus tax plus shipping ... call it $8.00 in the USA. > > Drop me a line if interested, > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > > -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Bryan Young CANADA blyoung AT bigfoot DOT com ----------------------------------------------------------- http://www.geocities.com/Area51/7118 SF Reading Club http://www.geocities.com/Area51/6568 Hawkwind http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Track/6878 IFHL-FLA ----------------------------------------------------------- "20 minutes goes by pretty fast when you're on a breakaway" From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Oct 17 06:20:26 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:20:26 +0100 Subject: OFF: Gregg Allman US tour Message-ID: Greg Allman is back on the road in the US through till 1999. You can find the dates at; Gregg Allman & Friends Fall/Winter Tour Dates: http://www.allmanbrothersband.com/people/gregg Z ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER c/o Shamrock Multimedia,PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sat Oct 17 07:54:24 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:54:24 +0100 Subject: HW:New album! Message-ID: --On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 6:50 pm +0100 zeitgeist-scot wrote: > I've just read this months MOJO and aparently Hawkwind have a new album out > called "Distant Horizons". > > Does anyone know about this? Apart from it being like, what? a year old? :) It's rather on the so-so side. A few quite decent tracks, and a *lot* of electronic dossing about. The artwork must have taken at least 5 minutes to complete, using shareware fonts that *I* rejected as too crap to contemplate using. They're supposed to have _In Your Area_ coming out soonish, yes? Hopefully it will be better, despite some retreads, though I fear additional Captain Rizz input ... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sat Oct 17 07:57:05 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 12:57:05 +0100 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_HW:_Bedouin_Last_Night_=3D=3D=3D?= Message-ID: On Fri, Oct 16, 1998 4:40 pm +0000 LN1GJT wrote: > Even though the video is really quite good (except for the middle 15 minutes - > when there is no lighting) I'm not really in a position to copy it. - moral > obligation etc., but maybe if enough people ask Alan..............!!! Well, supposing we *pay* Alan? Heck, how else are fans around the world going to see the band? Like they're gonna do a club tour of Oz anytime soon! Seriously, why not just make an arrangement to run off some PAL & NTSC copies and sell them for Alan or through Alan or something? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Sat Oct 17 08:51:58 1998 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 14:51:58 +0200 Subject: HW: Festival poster from 1973 Message-ID: Hi Folks! Today morning I bought in a poster shop an "ultra rare" Festival poster (original) from 24.02.1973. It was a Festival in Duesseldorf (Germany) Phillips Hall. The listed bands are: - Hawkwind - Golden Earring - Focus - Savoy Brown - Vinegar Joe - Mick Abraham's Band (Of course there exists a tape from this HAWKWIND gig!!!) The Festival title is: HOT ROCK NIGHT The size is 60cm x 85cm. It is multicoloured and flower-power like. Prize: 80 DM (= 50 US$) Condition: Very good There is one (the last one!) poster left in the shop. If someone here is interested to buy this poster, let me know. You will have to pay the 50 US$ and the stamps Bernhard From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Sat Oct 17 10:28:45 1998 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (J. Scruton) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 10:28:45 -0400 Subject: HW: Festival poster from 1973 In-Reply-To: <199810171252.OAA19010@mail.castrop-rauxel.netsurf.de> Message-ID: At 02:51 PM 10/17/98 +0200, you wrote: >Hi Folks! > >Today morning I bought in a poster shop an "ultra rare" Festival poster >(original) from 24.02.1973. > >It was a Festival in Duesseldorf (Germany) Phillips Hall. > >The listed bands are: > >- Hawkwind >- Golden Earring >- Focus >- Savoy Brown >- Vinegar Joe >- Mick Abraham's Band Pardon me as I let out a mourful sigh. Focus AND Hawkwind at the same gig?? Man, I was definately born in the wrong era. Well, at least Jan Akkerman is still out there laying waste to audiences, just like Hawkind. Drinking a Newcastle Brown Ale as "Anonymous 2" is on the stereo and "You Better Beleive it" is in my head, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sat Oct 17 10:22:11 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 15:22:11 +0100 Subject: OFF: new Motorhead live album Message-ID: Motorhead will soon release a new live album called _False Teeth for the Deaf_ (which will include a performance of "Over Your Shoulder", among others). -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From adawson at CLARA.NET Sat Oct 17 13:19:08 1998 From: adawson at CLARA.NET (Andrew Dawson) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 18:19:08 +0100 Subject: HW:New album! In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19981016185049.007a6990@pop.dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: At 18:50 16/10/98 +0100, you wrote: >I've just read this months MOJO and aparently Hawkwind have a new album out >called "Distant Horizons". > >Does anyone know about this? > >Z News had drifted on the wind of many minds that this was to be an occasion of great importance. For it was said by some that BOC-L had somehow uncovered a single time sleeper from the time before. Although the cryptic writings on the album sleeve were now faded beyond decipherable reading, it was said that the entombed was from that time on Earth before the list stretched it's electronic web from pole to pole leaving Distant Horizonns only in the wells of immortal minds. Mentet November 1997 Andy Andrew Dawson adawson at clara.net Into Hawkwind ? Then check out the Worldwide discography. http://home.clara.net/adawson From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Sat Oct 17 19:34:27 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:34:27 -0400 Subject: OFF: Monster magnet 25..tab Message-ID: It was before SOG. It is wierd because it is wierd. Check the title! The songs are about tripping out on acid, what else? rj > >Anybody have any information on this cd? Was it before or after "Spine >of God"? What are the songs about? Why is it so weird compared to >other MM stuff? > >Thanks! From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Sat Oct 17 19:35:46 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 19:35:46 -0400 Subject: OFF: FS: TAB ... 25 Message-ID: The rawest best MM. >Hello all, > >Stopped by the local Tower outlet while picking up lunch (as is my habit), >and grabbed an extra copy of the Monster Magnet 'TAB ... 25' CDEP. 3 songs, >40 minutes approx., semi-original ('Spine of God' era) lineup with John >McBain still on lead guitar. Probably my personal fave Monster Magnet >full-length. > >$6 plus tax plus shipping ... call it $8.00 in the USA. > >Drop me a line if interested, > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com From sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU Sun Oct 18 06:04:31 1998 From: sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 20:04:31 +1000 Subject: HW: Bedouin Last Night === Message-ID: On 17 Oct 98, at 12:57, Carl E. Anderson wrote about Re: HW: Bedouin Last Night ===: > Well, supposing we *pay* Alan? Heck, how else are fans around the > world going to see the band? Like they're gonna do a club tour of > Oz anytime soon! Hmmmm ... I just got mail from Marion Lloyd-Langton. Huwy wants to come to Oz (with the HLL band) ... I wonder if Bedouin would make it a _realistic_ proposition??? > Seriously, why not just make an arrangement to run off some > PAL & NTSC copies and sell them for Alan or through Alan or something? Sounds like a fine idea! If anyone actually does something about this, count me (or the Bilby to be more precise) in! Soniqu? -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique / \( o`-, ----- may sonique at mail.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they UIN #14292706 on ICQ /////// : ; --- Fly! From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Oct 18 16:06:01 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 21:06:01 +0100 Subject: HW Passports - address please Message-ID: Third time lucky perchance. Hard disk done been trashed and I've lost my inbox. I've got the form, I've got the photos but I ain't got no address. Repost please. Thanks, Z ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER c/o Shamrock Multimedia,PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From christmu at EUNET.NO Sun Oct 18 20:12:01 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 01:12:01 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind & spacerock radio! Message-ID: I just guested for an hour on a local radio station, promoting the spacerock zine Aural Innovations and grooving to spacerock in general, and I'll be doing a six hour session next Friday crammed with psychedelic music! Of course Hawkwind figure in the mystical equation :) This is what I managed to foist upon unwitting greater Oslo dwellers a couple of hours ago: Architectural Metaphor - "Sonic Attack" (opening the show!) from "Odysseum Galacti" F/i - "From Poppy With Love" from 7" Mooseheart Faith Stellar Groove Band - "The Space We're In" from "Global Brain" Nik Turner - Soul Herder/Opa-Loka 2000 (from "Past Or Future?") it was fairly impromptu as the guy called last minute for me to bring some music, but Bob's my uncle etc. I'll post the incredible 6-hour monster spacerock meltown playlist if I am still sane next week. Christian PS: of course I'm eligible for receiving free stuff to play :) From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Oct 18 19:22:01 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 00:22:01 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind & spacerock radio! In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19981019011201.02e9e1fc@pop.eunet.no> Message-ID: > I'll post the incredible 6-hour monster spacerock meltown playlist if I am > still sane next week. > > Christian "Still" sane? :) - Andy ObCD: Friends of Dean Martinez - _The Shadow of Your Smile_. Desert lounge! mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Sun Oct 18 20:35:32 1998 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 17:35:32 -0700 Subject: HW Passports - address please Message-ID: >Third time lucky perchance. > >Hard disk done been trashed and I've lost my inbox. > >I've got the form, I've got the photos but I ain't got no address. Repost >please. > >Thanks, > >Z >ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER HAWKWIND PASSPORTS ARE NOW AVAILABLE. SEND AN A5 SAE TO HAWKWIND PASSPORTS PO BOX 28 HONITON EAST DEVON EX14 8AP ENGLAND UK From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Oct 19 06:24:13 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:24:13 +0100 Subject: HW/OFF: Kinder der Revolte Message-ID: Just got this live-from-Germany's-premier-hippy-festival compilation, which features an eleven-minute version of "Love in Space", which may be the definitive version (OK, so Ron misses his vocal cue in the middle - or maybe his mike wasn't switched on - but so what eh). Also good stuff from Chris Karrer, Man, Faust, etc... and an eighteen-minute track from Gong called "Would you like some tea?" that I haven't nerved myself to listen to yet! The booklet has lots of funny photos, although I'm not sure which is scarier, the naked bearded paunchy German, or the children in face-paint. - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 19 06:58:55 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:58:55 +0100 Subject: Off: Paris, France? In-Reply-To: Johan Edlundh's message of Fri, 16 Oct 1998 17:52:05 +0200 Message-ID: Johan Edlundh writes: > hi, > going to Paris next week to attend a Teradyne sysadm class. > > there's a gap between Class End's and Flight Home on about 40 hrs next > weekend, and I just wonder if somebody's got a slightest idea where the > "used vinyl" area in Paris is - and if there's any CD/LP store which can be > recommended for the common hawkwind kollektor. Can't help but if you spot the French Hassan I Sabha single then please grab it with all available tentacles. FoFP From Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG Mon Oct 19 09:40:03 1998 From: Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG (Olivier Boigey) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:40:03 +0200 Subject: HW: Festival poster from 1973 In-Reply-To: <199810171252.OAA19010@mail.castrop-rauxel.netsurf.de> Message-ID: In message ID <199810171252.OAA19010 at mail.castrop-rauxel.netsurf.de> on 17/10/98, BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List wrote: BDL> BDL> The size is 60cm x 85cm. It is multicoloured and flower-power like. BDL> Prize: 80 DM (= 50 US$) BDL> Condition: Very good BDL> BDL> There is one (the last one!) poster left in the shop. If someone here is BDL> interested to buy this poster, let me know. BDL> BDL> You will have to pay the 50 US$ and the stamps What about scanning posters, tickets, and missing items from original vynils ? We could post the picts in a ftp site for BOC subscribers' useI Olivier _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Olivier Boigey 35 rue Navier 75017 - Paris - FRANCE TEL/FAX: 33 1 42 26 38 15 e-mail: olivier_boigey at technolink.org http://www.altern.org/obwaje/hmpg.htm _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ - sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered). From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Mon Oct 19 09:30:20 1998 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:30:20 +0200 Subject: HW: Festival poster from 1973 Message-ID: >What about scanning posters, tickets, and missing items from original vynils ? >We could post the picts in a ftp site for BOC subscribers' useI >Olivier Good idea for tickets, and missing items from original vinyls. But with lots of poster it will be difficult because most of them are to large for the scanners :-( Bernhard From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Mon Oct 19 10:14:55 1998 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 10:14:55 -0400 Subject: BOC: Binghamton Message-ID: >Hey John, are ya going too post some of these pictures on your site, the FAQ man in action ;-) Sometimes the mystery is better than the real thing... ;-) John From shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM Mon Oct 19 10:30:52 1998 From: shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:30:52 +0100 Subject: OFF: Motorhead last Sat Message-ID: First off, apologies to list members in the Beehive. Dunder brain that I am, I didn't realise that I don't know any of you by sight, therefore I had trouble finding you. (This startling revelation came to me as I entered the pub). DOH ! Secondly, it heres a review ...it was bloody excellent. Ok, a slightly better review would include the fact the played some reeeall oldies on Sat. Particularly 'Shine' which Lemmy admitted they hadn't played for about 14 years. The only thing that seemed below par was the sound from Lemmy's bass, which sounded ok to my untutored ears, but the main man was not happy about something, even changing basses in the middle of 'Killed by Death'. Oh well. In short, twas all rather good fun. Cheers, Neil. From christmu at EUNET.NO Mon Oct 19 11:59:11 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:59:11 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind & spacerock radio! In-Reply-To: <199810190900.LAA12550@login-2.eunet.no> Message-ID: Andy Gilham fires off his golden one-liner of the day: >> I'll post the incredible 6-hour monster spacerock meltown playlist if I am >> still sane next week. >> >> Christian > >"Still" sane? :) matter of definition - sure, who here isn't "legally insane" several times over according to US law anyway- tho "illegally sane" has a truer ring to it IMO. :) (My inner child was playing with an ancient electronic thesaurus today, like, this Kraftwerk-like robotic voice kept proclaiming: "KLEE-TOR-IS", "PEE-NIS", "EEN-TER-KORSE", "VA-GEE-NA" etc. etc. Most amusing.) "he who picks the cosmic tunage", Christian (breathing, eating & defacating in the correct order, & as tranquilly sane as your average log too! What a deal!) From christmu at EUNET.NO Mon Oct 19 14:11:19 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:11:19 +0100 Subject: BOC/HW: Heaven Forbid for trade Message-ID: I have this fine CD up for grabs - I also saw a cheapo copy of Robert Calvert's "Lucky Leif" album if anyone needs it - will trade for a copy of "Freq"! (or anything else I need) Christian ObCD: Mercury Rev - Deserter's Songs "very mad today thankyou" From christmu at EUNET.NO Mon Oct 19 14:22:57 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:22:57 +0100 Subject: HW: Aural Innovations update Message-ID: cast your eyes unto here and follow instructions! http://www.infinet.com/~jkranitz/space/space.html Contents Of Aural Innovations Number Four (October '98 - 32 Pages) Coverage of the Strange Daze '98 SpaceRock festival (Article) Coverage of the Jonkoping Space and Rock festival (Article) Coverage of the WOMAD festival (Article) Can: The History and Mystery (Article) Lard Free/Heldon: An Examination Of Directions In French Progressive Rock: Part I (Article) Krel (Interview) Vas Deferens Organization (Review/Interview) Spaceship Eyes (Review/Interview) David Sweet (Profile/Interview) Nik Turner: Part III (Interview) Reviews Escapade, Anubian Lights, Walk On Water, Monster Magnet, Amoeba, We, Ebeling Hughes, Korai Orom, Kadura, Fushitsusha, Onna-Kodomo, Nik Turner/Trev Thoms, Simon, Skye Klad, Spacecraft, Mazinga Phaser, Kopecky, Fonya, Neu Tribute, Ash Ra Tempel, Nektar, Kevin Leonard, Ayanami live Christian From wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM Mon Oct 19 14:26:18 1998 From: wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM (wandering-star) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:26:18 +0100 Subject: Off: Paris, France? Message-ID: I was in Paris in May. There were a couple of good second hand record shops in the latin quarter. Apparently though over the weekends theres a massive flee market with tonnes of vinyl. Least thats what it said in the guide book I read. Unfortunately I wasnt there at a weekend. Can't remember where the market is supposed to be though. Check out the megastore(s) on the champs elysees, they had a cracking range of stuff. Just couldn't afford that 25CD Klaus Schultze box set ;-) Question: Anyone know how much Ozric Tentacles 'Vitamin Enhanced' 6CD boxset is going for second hand these days? Rich ObCD: Little Bird - Marianne Faithfull From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Oct 19 14:47:07 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:47:07 +0100 Subject: OFF: Motorhead last Sat In-Reply-To: <199810191430.PAA27474@achemar.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> Message-ID: > > First off, apologies to list members in the Beehive. Dunder brain > that I am, I didn't > realise that I don't know any of you by sight, therefore I had > trouble finding > you. (This startling revelation came to me as I entered the pub). DOH ! I was *sure* we were expecting someone else! :) > Secondly, it heres a review ...it was bloody excellent. Indeed! They even played my favourite "old" Motorhead song, "Too Late Too Late". Great merchandising, too - I'm presently having a nice cup of tea from my Motorhead mug. If I smoked I'd have got a Motorhead lighter too. - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Oct 19 16:09:52 1998 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:09:52 -0700 Subject: BOC: SFG "reissue" Message-ID: This may be a dangerous question to ask, but ... does anyone know about a recently-released (apparently, VERY expensive and possibly very limited) LP of Stalk-Forrest Group recordings? Thanks, -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Oct 19 16:25:08 1998 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 13:25:08 -0700 Subject: OFF: Monster magnet 25..tab Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:23:14 -0700, Bryan Young wrote: >But I think you're wrong on the 3 song thing. I'd have to check, but >I'm sure there's at least 5 songs. One of the songs not listed is the >"Tractor" song that just showed up on the new Powertrip album. >("driving my tractor on the drug farm...") Are you sure you're not thinking of the self-titled mini-album that came out on the German label Glitterhouse? That one DOES have 5 (all short, unlike 'TAB...25') songs, including the song "Tractor" that you mention, which was originally the B-side of their second single, "Murder", on Caroline's Primo Scree subsidiary (same label that put out the first version of 'Spine of God' - there are apparently two mixes of that album). Also on the mini-album were remakes of the first single, "Lizard Johnny" and "Freak Shop USA" as well as early versions of "Snake Dance" and "Nod Scene" (that were re-done for 'Spine of God'). >Anybody have any information on this cd? Was it before or after "Spine >of God"? What are the songs about? Why is it so weird compared to >other MM stuff? I believe that it was done around the same time as the second single and the other tracks on the self-title mini-album I mentioned above. "TAB" is actually a re-make of a song that was on the first MM demo tape (aka 'Fuck Life, I'm High On Drugs') that features the same band lineup as the first singe (McBain = lead guitar, Wyndorf = rhythm guitar, Cronin = drums/vocals). That's what the band originally sounded like (there was a heavy Skullflower influence going on, thanks to Tim Cronin - they were the number one band he recommended to me when he sent me that tape after I wrote him to inquire about Monster Magnet 'cause I liked the first single and heard that they'd recorded a version of "Brainstorm"). At the time, many of my friends were of the opinion that the early stuff was the only MM worth listening to, and that 'Spine of God' was a pathetic sell-out (the review in the 'zine I wrote for at the time, which had raved about the first two singles, was entitled "Let's Call A Duck A Duck Department"; no, I didn't write it!). I don't necessarily agree, but that first tape is still MY favorite MM. also, sprawl wrote: >It was before SOG. It is wierd because it is wierd. Check the title! The >songs are about tripping out on acid, what else? All correct information, AFAIK! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Oct 19 17:34:58 1998 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:34:58 -0400 Subject: OFF: Pink Dots in Cincinnati Message-ID: Hi Folks... Got back late last night from a quick trip down to Cincinnati to check out the Legendary Pink Dots show. The venue, Bogarts, is a place I'd seen mentioned a zillion times as it generally gets all the same bands coming through that also come here to the Newport in Columbus (but not this time) and either Peabody's or the Odeon (or the old Empire club) up in Cleveland. But I'd never been there (Bogarts) before, but discovered it's very similar to those other places, though the ceilings are only half as high as at the Newport, and twice as high as at Peabody's. It's right across the street from the U. Cincinnati campus, and hence is dominated by local face-metal-alternakids. Jerry Kranitz went along and brought the fresh-off-the-presses October issue of Aural Innovations. For the first time, *all* the art, graphics, and photos came out looking great! The issue is again longer this time, up to 32 pages, plus with some smaller fonts being used, much more info can be found within its pages. After a beer at BW3's, we entered the club just before 8 pm, when things were scheduled to start. It musta been dollar-off goth night, as it seemed as though anyone not totally dressed in black (like me) or wearing WWF-style makeup were looked upon with disdain. Either that, or people were getting an early start on Halloween. And for whatever reason, everyone seemed to be smoking clove cigarettes, which I will now state as being the most disgusting f*cking things ever invented. I may have to burn my clothing now. The opening act was billed as the 'Twilight Circus Dub Soundsystem.' When a crazed dude wearing a feather red boa came sauntering out, I knew this was the guy from the Dots that Christian was talking about in his review (Oslo show) in the last issue of AI. It was Ryan Moore, who plays drums (and occasionally bass guitar) in the full band. TCDS is kind of a joke, or at least I hope so. The music is almost entirely piped in, to which Moore gyrates around and generally acts like a total lysergic freakazoid. Inane commentary into the mic, some triggered sound effects from either a keyboard and some hand-held device that looks similar to the floor pedal that Ron Tree uses, and some bass "playing" or totally incompetent drumming all accompany the reggae dub music programmed in. It's the kind of act that one might have expected from Andy Kaufmann, and I admit it was entertaining, but not in any serious way. After about 45 minutes of this bizarre display, there was a short break, and then the proper Dots came out. A five piece, there's lead singer/keyboardist Edward Ka-Spel, main keyboardist/audio generator Phil Knight (aka the Silverman), sax/flute meister 'Hornblower' (don't know his real name), a guy on guitar/bass, and then Moore on drums/bass. The name LPD has been known to me for quite awhile, but I hadn't heard any of the music until perhaps 4-5 months ago, when I picked up a used CD (The Maria Dimension, from 1991) after seeing Pam Wheaton's recommendation of LPD music. [I'd since picked up two others, The Lovers from the mid-80s, and the one from 1992...can't remember the title off-hand...Neither of these were as good.] I was generally pleased with this stuff, though I wasn't too keen on Ka-Spel's voice and singing style. I would characterize his voice as a nasal mix of Daevid Allen and Neil Tennant, or more simply, like fictional hero Austin Powers....i.e., a ridiculously sappy, heavy British-accented voice (though I'm sure he can't help it). After about 45 minutes of LPD's set, I had to admit to myself that this was an extremely disappointing show, and hence I was souring greatly on LPD as a band. Up to then, most of the music had been lifeless, avant-dreamy-poetic-pop schlock with Ka-Spel's whiny yap going on and on and on.... [His voice characteristics aside, part of the problem with his singing style is that the lyrical lines are nearly continuous (a la Eric Idle's character who never shuts up), and so you get that incessant whine.] The only interesting thing was Hornblower's great sax (he'd play both alto and bass sax at the same time!) and occasional knob-twiddling psychedelic weirdness coming from the Silverman. But then, in the biggest turnaround in my concert-going history (about the time I had decided I'd need to send a very nasty e-mail to Christian indeed), everything picked up suddenly, and the sonic blitz version of LPD beamed in from outer space. It all started with Hornblower (complete with headlamps) jumping into the audience (of perhaps 200) and jamming on his sax (a tenor this time?) while strolling through the crowd. From then on, LPD were ON. We quickly got one of the cool tracks I'd heard on a compilation tape (The Legendary Pink Mix) Jerry gave me which really smoked, and then that segued into the totally crazy 'The Saucers are Coming,' with introduction by Ka-Spel that was right out of the Calvert/Turner/Bloom-Godzilla manual on panic-inducing ranting. A little later there was a brief respite from the insanity with an acoustic something that I thought might be the title track from the Lovers, and then a fabulous energetic and totally freaked-out version of the Grain Kings, one of my favourite tracks from The Maria Dimension. That turned out to be the finale, but then two encores of at least two songs each ensued, and much of that material was quite strong as well. By this point, Silverman's audio generators were fully charged up and things got a bit out of control on the screechy side. As far as the band goes, Hornblower is the true star, in a very similar manner as Bloomdido in Gong. Ka-Spel in an eccentric guy, but well outdid by his own drummer (who during this set kept his antics subdued, and proved to us that he truly *wasn't* an incompetent musician, though he's still undertalented). The guitar player (who of course, played quite a bit of bass as well) "disappeared" for large portions of the show, but occasionally put forth some really cool material. Silverman, as stated above, is a true knob-twiddler kind of synth player. With Ka-Spel's oft-annoying singing, this is a band that can never (in my book) attain greatness (they've had plenty of time to work on it) but this show was definitely worth seeing. Just be prepared for a mixed response...some things just don't work. But they really are different from any other band I've seen. The Gong comparisons are numerous, but on the surface only. The space rock qualities of the music really sound more like the sonic attack of a band like Pressurehed, but the writing style is more like the PsychedeliDreamPop bands of the UK. And that's what sometimes gets a little sickening. In fact, they should have just lopped off the top portion of the set, and started out smoking as they could have done. The North American tour is just underway, so many of you will have a show nearby (it goes for at least a month still). I posted the tentative dates awhile back, which I got from their website. I'd post the URL if I had it, but you can probably find it yourselves easily, by searching UBL or something. On the way out, I did pick up the two CDs from 1995 and 1997 that Christian had recommended (title names fail me now). I had actually heard a couple of these songs on that same tape (Citadel was particularly exciting) so I knew there was good material to be found therein. A new 1998 release is also being sold (along with a flood of Ka-Spel's and Moore's solo material), called Nemesis (something?). An interesting night...very different indeed. Keith H. (FAA) From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Mon Oct 19 21:20:35 1998 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (J. Scruton) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:20:35 -0400 Subject: BOC: SFG "reissue" In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981019130952.00829100@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: At 01:09 PM 10/19/98 -0700, you wrote: >This may be a dangerous question to ask, but ... does anyone know about a >recently-released (apparently, VERY expensive and possibly very limited) LP >of Stalk-Forrest Group recordings? > I don't but i found a website that offers it for sale, under the LP title _St. Cecilia_ for (choke) $38.00. page: http://members.surfsouth.com/~jfrecord/ugrelp.html I would be wary just because it's been such an underground recording with little to no hope of it ever surfacing with the care the material is due. The day Sony or whoever owns it now releases it will be a day to remember (and probably beyond all our lifetimes). Bad oats in town, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Mon Oct 19 21:28:50 1998 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:28:50 +0900 Subject: HW/OFF: Kinder der Revolte Message-ID: Sounds interesting, where did you find it? DaveG Andy Gilham wrote: > > Just got this live-from-Germany's-premier-hippy-festival compilation, which > features an eleven-minute version of "Love in Space", which may be the > definitive version (OK, so Ron misses his vocal cue in the middle - or maybe > his mike wasn't switched on - but so what eh). > > Also good stuff from Chris Karrer, Man, Faust, etc... and an > eighteen-minute track from Gong called "Would you like some tea?" that I > haven't nerved myself to listen to yet! > > The booklet has lots of funny photos, although I'm not sure which is > scarier, the naked bearded paunchy German, or the children in face-paint. > > - Andy > > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Mon Oct 19 21:38:56 1998 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:38:56 -0500 Subject: BOC: SFG "reissue" Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: > This may be a dangerous question to ask, but ... does anyone know about a > recently-released (apparently, VERY expensive and possibly very limited) LP > of Stalk-Forrest Group recordings? > > Thanks, > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com Well, I ordered a Stock Forest Group LP from a vinyl vendor, he only had one to my knowledge but this is his Web Site . I will try to get a set of scanned images of this LP from him as I am sure he has them, when I do I will post them, I think this is probably the same LP your speaking of, which is somewhere between Brazil and my house, but when I receive it I will post more info on it, and should be able to answer any questions. Being that I haven't heard any SFG recordings, I am really excited about its arrival, God knows I paid enough for it ;-), hope the sound quality is ok, I kind of took a bit of a gamble with this one. Laj. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Mon Oct 19 22:46:47 1998 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:46:47 -0500 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet set list? Message-ID: Hey! Anyone been to a date on the current Monster Magnet tour? I'm going this week and was wondering what their set list was. Thanks! -- PERCEPTION You and I do not see things as they are. We see things as we are. - Herb Cohen From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Oct 19 23:41:08 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:41:08 -0400 Subject: OFF: Pink Dots in Cincinnati In-Reply-To: <199810192134.RAA00167@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Keith Henderson wrote: => LPD has been known to me for quite awhile, but I hadn't heard any of the => music until perhaps 4-5 months ago, when I picked up a used CD (The Maria => Dimension, from 1991) after seeing Pam Wheaton's recommendation of LPD => music. [I'd since picked up two others, The Lovers from the mid-80s, and => the one from 1992...can't remember the title off-hand...Neither of these => were as good.] I was generally pleased with this stuff, though I wasn't too => keen on Ka-Spel's voice and singing style. I would characterize his voice => as a nasal mix of Daevid Allen and Neil Tennant, or more simply, like => fictional hero Austin Powers....i.e., a ridiculously sappy, heavy => British-accented voice (though I'm sure he can't help it). I'm glad it's not just me. I also picked up a used LPD album (_Nine Lives to Wonder_) on Pam Wheaton's recommendation, and found that the vocalist "got on my wick in no time" (as I remember my review saying:). I attributed it to a fanatical zeal to emulate Syd Barrett, but now I like your Austin Powers explanation better. :-) A classic case of a "shut up 'n' play yer guitar" band, IMHO. Cheers, Paul. ob2CD-R: Gov't Mule, Trees---Dallas, Texas, 4/4/98 e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Stand by to stand by" --- Gov't Mule From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Tue Oct 20 05:04:01 1998 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:04:01 +0100 Subject: HW: Motorhead Message-ID: The occasion: An autumnal evening at the Brixton Academy, seeing a band play in an attempt to to tide me over another month without a Hawkwind gig. So there we were, in the Beehive, drinking beer. And then we went to the Academy, managing to avoid all these modern music support bands and getting to the merchandising desk with plenty of time to make our wise purchases. If I had one complaint about the evening it was this: Motorhead coffee mugs. I fear that this is neither Rock nor Roll. I am looking forward to the next tour's merchandise, fluffy slippers with the logo, a deluxe limited edition set with leather soles? A pouch for your pipe tobacco? Motorhead walking sticks? Hmmm.... As for the gig. I am of the opinion that trying to review a Motorhead gig is like trying to find the chemical composition of various bits of lava flying away from Krakatoa at supersonic speeds. You could try, but you might as well just revel in the overall effect and magnitude of the event. Because we arrived so late we were right at the back. This had some advantages, we were near the bar, we could easily get to the toilets, our eardrums did not explode. A word on the volume, despite being as far away from the stage as it was possible to be, and still see the stage, it was very loud. It was the volume that allows the bass drum to wobble your clothes. About what you'd expect from a Motorhead gig. As for the stage setup. I have been to the Academy quite a few times, it is a big stage and allows Hawkwind to fill it with dancers and fire eaters. Motorhead have a minimal approach to stage design. three people, three logos, some lights (mainly from behind) and lots of empty stage. Well, that isn't entirely correct, some stage, but about half the usual size of the Academy stage, the rest was full of speakers. Oh yes, and a backline of Marshall stacks. Infact anything that wasn't full of speakers or minimalist stage set was backline. And the lights, simple yet effective. Lots of light (I guess to make the lighting crew feel as important as the sound crew, both having excess of their chosen stuff). The sound was sort of OK, in that I could hear what was going on, despite the volume. I think Lemmy's vocals were completely indistinguishable, which is as it should be. He did have bass problems, and did change in Killed by Death, and then changed back, but I didn't notice. He also kept tuning his bass, which I think is a nice touch. As for the songs, I'm not sure about lots of them. I know they started off with Bomber, and then No Class. After this I forgot the order, but it was all top entertainment. After 20 minutes I went to the toilet, and discovered that the vocals were clearer outside. I also discovered that I had got a ringing in my ears. I hadn't seen Micky Dee before, but he fits in well with the Motorhead style. To my mind a Motorhead drummer should hit his entire kit as quickly as possible all the time, apart from in Metropolis when he should hit most of his kit very hard indeed, replacing speed by volume; he did this very well. The songs I can remember are Love for Sale (a subtle reworking of Calvert's time for sale [no, not really]), maybe Don't Lie to Me, Civil War, Over your Shoulder, Born to Raise Hell, I'm so bad (Baby I don't Care), Going to Brazil (which is just so good, if you haven't got any later Motorhead then this is one of the many superb songs you're missing out on), Orgasmatron (a super fine song), Nothing up my Sleeve, Dead men Tell no Tales, I got mine, Iron Fist, Ace of Spades, The Chase is better than the Catch, Metropolis, Killed by Death. The Encore finished with Overkill. There was something pure about the volume, speed and intensity of finishing with this song. Of course I could have made most of those titles up, but that is my recollection. To sum up: Volume, melody, rhythm and light, but mainly volume. Cheers Mike w From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Tue Oct 20 05:22:42 1998 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Rich Lockwood) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:22:42 +0100 Subject: OFF: Motorhead last Sat Message-ID: > Great merchandising, too - I'm presently having a nice cup of tea from > my > Motorhead mug. If I smoked I'd have got a Motorhead lighter too. > I would be having a nice cup of tea from my Motorhead mug - if some bastard hadn't gone and nicked it. ALREADY!! I only brought the damn thing in yesterday. Best go and have a smoke, using my nice Motorhead lighter... Cheers, Rich. From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Oct 20 05:55:57 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:55:57 +0100 Subject: HW/OFF: Kinder der Revolte In-Reply-To: <362BE752.643E@virgin.net> Message-ID: > Sounds interesting, where did you find it? Good old Forced Exposure, http://www.forcedexposure.com. $15 US + shipping. They get far too much of my money these days! The Faust track is superb! - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Tue Oct 20 06:25:28 1998 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:25:28 +0900 Subject: HW/OFF: Kinder der Revolte Message-ID: Thank you! Andy Gilham wrote: > > > Sounds interesting, where did you find it? > > Good old Forced Exposure, http://www.forcedexposure.com $15 US + shipping. > They get far too much of my money these days! > > The Faust track is superb! > > - Andy > > mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Tue Oct 20 06:54:42 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 06:54:42 -0400 Subject: BOC: Toads Place, New Haven CT (10/16) Message-ID: Play list for the Toad's Place concert was Burnin' For You Cities on Flame E.T.I. Harvest Moon Take Me Away Bucks Boogie (6:16) Joan Crawford Live for Me Flaming Telepaths See You in Black Astrnomy ME262 (mini blues jam session - 1 min) In Thee Godzilla Reaper ---------------------------- Lips in the Hills The Red and the Black From s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Tue Oct 20 10:31:35 1998 From: s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Patrick Cordiner) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:31:35 +1000 Subject: HW:Have you ever noticed... Message-ID: This is another one of those `Have you ever noticed..' things after I went through a big vinyl Sabbath phase recently:-) On "Master of Reality" the track suspiciously labelled "Into the void" had some very familiar lyrics... `Rocket engines burning fuel so fast Up into the night sky they blast Through the universe the engines whine Could be the end of man and time.' also `Freedom fighters sent out into the sun Escape from brainwashed minds and pollution.' Well..er.. that's what I think anyway (I've probably just got Hawkwind on the brain) Patrick From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Oct 20 10:34:51 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:34:51 +0100 Subject: HW: Motorhead Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 20, 1998 10:04 am +0100 "M S Wright" wrote: > If I had one complaint about the evening it was this: Motorhead > coffee mugs. I fear that this is neither Rock nor Roll. I am looking > forward to the next tour's merchandise, fluffy slippers with the logo, a > deluxe limited edition set with leather soles? A pouch for your pipe > tobacco? Motorhead walking sticks? Hmmm.... Hey, I dug the Motorhead coffe mugs :) Had to have one--I'm going to worry people with that for *years*, no matter where I go :) > After 20 minutes I went to the toilet, and > discovered that the vocals were clearer outside. I also discovered that I > had got a ringing in my ears. Without earplugs it verged on a wall of noise. With ear-plugs it sounded decently mixed and Lemmy's vocals were distressingly clear. It may be cheating, but since the sound man's got 'em, it's nice to hear the gig you paid for! > The songs I can remember are Love for Sale (a subtle reworking of > Calvert's time for sale [no, not really]), maybe Don't Lie to Me, Civil > War, Over your Shoulder, Born to Raise Hell, I'm so bad (Baby I don't > Care), Going to Brazil (which is just so good, if you haven't got any > later Motorhead then this is one of the many superb songs you're missing > out on), Orgasmatron (a super fine song), Nothing up my Sleeve, Dead men > Tell no Tales, I got mine, Iron Fist, Ace of Spades, The Chase is better > than the Catch, Metropolis, Killed by Death. The Encore finished with > Overkill. There was "Shine" in there somewhere as well. The "Hootchie Cootchie Man"-type song (with random lyrics) which they had been playing was gone, oh, but "Overnight Sensation" was still in there. Probably some other stuff. There was, actually, a good balance between the "classic" stuff and the new stuff. IMO, when you hear them all together like that, they all sound remarkably good (I just realized the other day that I actually don't currently own proper albums of anything before _1916_, I just have the old stuff on compilations! On the other hand, I have everything after _1916_, barring _March or Die_, with me :) I don't recall hearing Lemmy's usual promise to kick our ass, but he did :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Oct 20 10:53:20 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:53:20 +0100 Subject: HW:Have you ever noticed... Message-ID: Well, we *were* born to go :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Oct 20 10:54:54 1998 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 10:54:54 -0400 Subject: BOC: SFG "reissue" Message-ID: It will be interesting to hear about this release. I suspect that perhaps someone got a hold of a tape of the SFG stuff and made a bootleg vinyl copy? Strange, since there are BOC bootleg vinyls around, but this was never one I had heard about. NOTE: There is one BOC bootleg, called "Fantasy Distillation of Reality", which is a vinyl recording of the 4-song "Bootleg EP" that Columbia put out (from a '72 show - Red+Black, Cities on Flame, Workshop of Telescopes, Buck's Boogie), along with the 2 vinyl tracks from the Elektra radio-only promo that was put out w/SFG stuff (Arthur Comics, What is Quicksand). It will be interesting to see if this "St. Cecilia" vinyl is really the whole SFG recording, or a copy of this "Fantasy Distillation..." BOC boot. Keep us informed - I'll want to add this info to the FAQ. John From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Tue Oct 20 08:02:32 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:02:32 +0000 Subject: BOC: Toads Place, New Haven CT (10/16) Message-ID: > Play list for the Toad's Place concert was > > Burnin' For You > Cities on Flame > E.T.I. > Harvest Moon > Take Me Away > Bucks Boogie (6:16) > Joan Crawford > Live for Me > Flaming Telepaths > See You in Black > Astrnomy > ME262 > (mini blues jam session - 1 min) > In Thee > Godzilla > Reaper > ---------------------------- > Lips in the Hills > The Red and the Black Okay...since nobody did a setlist for Binghamton, I think I've got it now. Basically the same as above, but without the following: Take Me Away Astronomy ME262 In Thee Lips in the Hills The Red and the Black. Dominance and Submission was the lone encore. I think Theo and I kinda trashed the Binghamton show...or at least expressed a bit of disappointment...but I will say this -- Eric was all aces on SEE YOU IN BLACK. I think he saved up all his energy for that song, and was spent by the last note. But it was a damn fine performance. -- Nick From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Oct 20 13:16:03 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:16:03 EDT Subject: BOC: Toads Place, New Haven CT (10/16) In-Reply-To: <199810201604.MAA20598@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: > From: "" > Okay...since nobody did a setlist for Binghamton, I think I've got it > now. Basically the same as above, but without the following: > > Take Me Away > Astronomy > ME262 > In Thee > Lips in the Hills > The Red and the Black. > > Dominance and Submission was the lone encore. This is pretty much the set they did at New Hartford [NY], though I'm not sure about the encores. I think they did a cover tune, as there was a guest guitarist sitting in. But they did perform all those tunes at that show. Brian, Torgo, am I right about this? Maybe they didn't do tRatB or ME 262 at that show... > > I think Theo and I kinda trashed the Binghamton show...or at least > expressed a bit of disappointment... Guilty as charged, but I think BOC deserved it. Since Dec '96 I've seen them 6 times, and the Bing. show was far and away the worst of the bunch... but I will say this -- Eric was > all aces on SEE YOU IN BLACK. I think he saved up all his energy for > that song, and was spent by the last note. But it was a damn fine > performance. > > -- Nick Yeah, EB is light years ahead of where he was in early '97, where BD and Danny backed him up on almost all his vocals. He's obviously pacing himself, and as Nick pointed out before, he's altered his style to allow himself to hit the high notes better, but, apart from the Bing. show, he's sounding pretty good these days... theo From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Tue Oct 20 13:50:37 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 13:50:37 -0400 Subject: BOC: Toads Place, New Haven CT (10/16) Message-ID: From: Ted Jackson jr. s2h2 [mailto:tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU] >> From: "" >> Okay...since nobody did a setlist for Binghamton, I think I've got it >> now. Basically the same as above, but without the following: >> >> Take Me Away >> Astronomy >> ME262 >> In Thee >> Lips in the Hills >> The Red and the Black. >> >> Dominance and Submission was the lone encore. >This is pretty much the set they did at New Hartford [NY], though I'm >not sure about the encores. I think they did a cover tune, as there >was a guest guitarist sitting in. "Slow Down" with Smokin' Joe Bonamassa. (sp?) There's a pretty cool version of this song on Brian May's new solo album (no anti-Queen flames, please ;-) >But they did perform all those >tunes at that show. Brian, Torgo, am I right about this? Maybe they >didn't do tRatB or ME 262 at that show... No TMA, ME262, tR&tB, Astronomy (?) and no Joan Crawford. They did do Od'd and a couple others though. OFF TOPIC: Anyone else pick up the new Sabbath double live? Opinions? I like it so far. It's polished, but not too much to my ears (Ozzy sings some really flat notes.) I love hearing Fairies Wear Boots and Electric Funeral live too! Of the new tunes, I love the riff in the middle section of Psycho Man. Brian obCD> Black Sabbath "Reunion" ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Oct 20 15:05:45 1998 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:05:45 -0700 Subject: HW: Motorhead Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:34:51 +0100, "Carl E. Anderson" wrote: > >On Tue, Oct 20, 1998 10:04 am +0100 "M S Wright" >wrote: >> If I had one complaint about the evening it was this: Motorhead >> coffee mugs. I fear that this is neither Rock nor Roll. I am looking >> forward to the next tour's merchandise, fluffy slippers with the logo, a >> deluxe limited edition set with leather soles? A pouch for your pipe >> tobacco? Motorhead walking sticks? Hmmm.... > > Hey, I dug the Motorhead coffe mugs :) Had to have one--I'm >going to worry people with that for *years*, no matter where I go :) Coffee mugs neither rock not roll? They are if they're filled with 50% coffee, 50% Jack Daniels! What else would you put in your Motorhead coffee mug, anyway? :^) Motorhead walking sticks would come in very handy in a street fight or barroom brawl ... and I'm sure that many Motorhead fans could find a good use for a pouch for pipe *ahem* "tobacco". I think you may be onto something here ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com (who would love to own fuzzy slippers with Snaggletooth B. Motorhead's face on them!) From janbudd at WORLDONLINE.NL Tue Oct 20 17:55:46 1998 From: janbudd at WORLDONLINE.NL (jan buddenberg) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 23:55:46 +0200 Subject: SFG "reissue" Message-ID: Hello there, First of all let me introduce myself: I'm Jan Buddenberg and I live in the netherlands (near amsterdam to make some of you jealous?:-)) I have seen BOC 5 times sofar (1989 in germany with Kansas, 1992 in germany, 1995 in london UK, and twice in 1998; london and Koln (germany) and I simply have to say they are the best band around. To bad they haven't been to holland since.... eh let me see? 1979 mirrors tour :-(( I have started collecting BOC stuff in 1980 (at which time I was only 11 years young) and have found some interesting stuff since, among which lately the SFG st cecilia reissue, so i know a little about the following question: > This may be a dangerous question to ask, but ... does anyone know about a > recently-released (apparently, VERY expensive and possibly very limited) LP > of Stalk-Forrest Group recordings? The album contains the st cecilia album (in the same kind of quality as the spread around boot-tape) and also contains three more tracks which are from the period between SFG and BOC (preBOC so to speak). Those tracks are: donovan's monkey (feat. Eric bloom on vocals so no SFG stuff for sure!) I'm on the lamb but I ain't no sheep (different to the albumversion) A fact about sneakers (pre BOC track!) The album is called "The california album" because it was recorded in California (according to some details mentioned in the mornin final mags. I have got two copies (which I both intend to keep, I'm sorry to say) but if you manage to get one I wouldn't hesitate and just buy it for there are only supposed to be about 500 copies around, and there are some """new""" tracks on it!!! > Thanks, > Your welcome, Jan Buddenberg Janbudd at worldonline.nl From christmu at EUNET.NO Tue Oct 20 20:10:03 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 01:10:03 +0100 Subject: HW/NIK: Opa-Loka Message-ID: Anyone know where the version of Opa-Loka on the Sonic Attack 2001 comp is from? Sounds like it could be from the Space Ritual 94 (but not on the SR94 live CD) and its definetly not the one on Past Or Future. Chr- From Nebosuke at AOL.COM Tue Oct 20 19:59:00 1998 From: Nebosuke at AOL.COM (Chris Baker) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 19:59:00 EDT Subject: BOC: Re: SFG "reissue" Message-ID: Jan Buddenberg wrote re: "Donovan's Monkey" > (feat. Eric bloom on vocals so no SFG stuff for sure!) ??? St. Cecilia was SFG, yes/no? And Bloom sang on some of that... ??? -Chris Baker From des at SUPERLINK.NET Tue Oct 20 23:55:37 1998 From: des at SUPERLINK.NET (E F) Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 23:55:37 -0400 Subject: BOC: Re: SFG "reissue" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Chris Wrote: On 20-Oct-98, Chris Baker says to me: > Jan Buddenberg wrote re: "Donovan's Monkey" >> (feat. Eric bloom on vocals so no SFG stuff for sure!) > > ??? St. Cecilia was SFG, yes/no? And Bloom sang on some of that... ??? > > -Chris Baker > Regards I think you're all mixing SFG up with SWU, but the best thing to do would be to check the FAQ (or ask Albert or John). --EF -- Rise to claim Saturn- Ring and Sky From janbudd at WORLDONLINE.NL Wed Oct 21 02:49:30 1998 From: janbudd at WORLDONLINE.NL (jan buddenberg) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:49:30 +0200 Subject: SFG "reissue" Message-ID: ---------- > Van: Chris Baker > Aan: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Onderwerp: BOC: Re: SFG "reissue" > Datum: woensdag 21 oktober 1998 1:59 > > Jan Buddenberg wrote re: "Donovan's Monkey" > > (feat. Eric bloom on vocals so no SFG stuff for sure!) > > ??? St. Cecilia was SFG, yes/no? And Bloom sang on some of that... ??? > Oops, you're absolutely right, what I meant to say was that it's not from another sfg recording before the st cecilia album, but I guess I will have to read the MF mags yet once again:-)) From edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK Wed Oct 21 04:25:00 1998 From: edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 09:25:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Motorhead Message-ID: From: Mark Edmonds Date: 1998-10-21 09:25 >Motorhead walking sticks would come in very handy in a >street fight or barroom brawl ... and I'm sure that many Motorhead fans >could find a good use for a pouch for pipe *ahem* "tobacco". I think you >may be onto something here ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com I am sure this must have been mentioned before but what about a set of Motorhead playing cards? (And then there is Motorhead false teeth.....) Mark From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 21 07:04:11 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:04:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Motorhead In-Reply-To: Doug Pearson's message of Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:05:45 -0700 Message-ID: > >> If I had one complaint about the evening it was this: Motorhead > >> coffee mugs. I fear that this is neither Rock nor Roll. I am looking > >> forward to the next tour's merchandise, fluffy slippers with the logo, a > >> deluxe limited edition set with leather soles? A pouch for your pipe > >> tobacco? Motorhead walking sticks? Hmmm.... They didn't have any Motorhead place mats did they? I've been after some for ages. FoFP From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Wed Oct 21 08:27:11 1998 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (J. Scruton) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:27:11 -0400 Subject: HW: Motorhead In-Reply-To: <199810211104.MAA18444@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 12:04 PM 10/21/98 +0100, you wrote: >> >> If I had one complaint about the evening it was this: Motorhead >> >> coffee mugs. I fear that this is neither Rock nor Roll. I am looking >> >> forward to the next tour's merchandise, fluffy slippers with the logo, a >> >> deluxe limited edition set with leather soles? A pouch for your pipe >> >> tobacco? Motorhead walking sticks? Hmmm.... > >They didn't have any Motorhead place mats did they? I've been after some >for ages. Even better would be a Lemmy voice modification device so you you can fool your friends and astound your neighbors as you call them on the phone as Lemmy. Just imagine the looks on people's faces, as well as the shuddering of the spine! Hours of fun. Heh, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Wed Oct 21 08:49:41 1998 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (J. Scruton) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:49:41 -0400 Subject: BOC: Snippet about Donnington Message-ID: Leafing through a Kerrang book on AC/DC, it reported that Eric Bloom was so unhappy about Albert Bouchard walking out(?) that he through a commemorative plaque BOC received on the grass and stomped on it. Ah, the maturity of rock performers. Will it ever cease to amaze me? Jason PS: Upon listening to "Ragamuffin Dumpling" recently, I noticed that the riff for "The Subhuman" is being played in the background. They were a good band. I really like the Byrds-ish sound of the chording--makes things "dangerous..." From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Oct 21 08:44:23 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 08:44:23 -0400 Subject: HW: Motorhead Message-ID: >At 12:04 PM 10/21/98 +0100, you wrote: >>> >> If I had one complaint about the evening it was this: Motorhead >>> >> coffee mugs. I fear that this is neither Rock nor Roll. I am looking >>> >> forward to the next tour's merchandise, fluffy slippers with the logo, a >>> >> deluxe limited edition set with leather soles? A pouch for your pipe >>> >> tobacco? Motorhead walking sticks? Hmmm.... >> >>They didn't have any Motorhead place mats did they? I've been after some >>for ages. > Even better would be a Lemmy voice modification device so you you can >fool your friends and astound your neighbors as you call them on the phone >as Lemmy. Just imagine the looks on people's faces, as well as the >shuddering of the spine! Hours of fun. Lemmy Weedkiller -- Strong stuff. Based on his quote that if he moved next door to you, your lawn would die. ============================================ It's the Nexus of the crisis and the Origin of Storms... -"Astronomy" by Blue ?yster Cult -AAA From mrippa at MEDIASAT.IT Wed Oct 21 10:09:00 1998 From: mrippa at MEDIASAT.IT (massimo rippa) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:09:00 +0200 Subject: BOC: Snippet about Donnington Message-ID: J. Scruton ha scritto: > Leafing through a Kerrang book on AC/DC, it reported that Eric Bloom was so > unhappy about Albert Bouchard walking out(?) that he through a > commemorative plaque BOC received on the grass and stomped on it. > Ah, the maturity of rock performers. Will it ever cease to amaze me? > > Jason > Well, what I know of Donnington is that BOC were in quarrel with the organization, and broke some plaques of the festival due to time limitation of the concert, and restrictions on the use of lights, effects and H.D. on stage What about the maturity of rock promoters? From abrevard at SHL.COM Wed Oct 21 10:39:33 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 07:39:33 -0700 Subject: BOC: Toads Place, New Haven CT (10/16) Message-ID: >Play list for the Toad's Place concert was Burnin' For You Cities on Flame E.T.I. Harvest Moon Take Me Away Bucks Boogie (6:16) Joan Crawford Live for Me Flaming Telepaths See You in Black Astrnomy ME262 (mini blues jam session - 1 min) In Thee Godzilla Reaper ---------------------------- Lips in the Hills The Red and the Black **************************************** I like this setlist a lot. Good to see Astronomy, Take Me Away and ME262 in the mix. Now if only they would resurrect Stairway to the Stars and drop Burnin' from the top of the setlist. Ghost in the Ruins OBCD - King's X Tapehead (bass players this one is a must have!) OBnever to early to start the holidays - Trans Siberian Orchestra - Christmas Attic From sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK Wed Oct 21 05:19:36 1998 From: sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 10:19:36 +0100 Subject: BOC: Metallica cover BOC Message-ID: Sorry if I missed this but Kerrang! has a listing of the new Metallica covers album and it will feature a cover of Astronomy! Si ----- "I`ve got 'some' answers to 'most' of your questions!" The Alice Cooper Trivia File - http://village.vossnet.co.uk/s/sihalley/intro.html My Tubes Page - http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/7998/ From christmu at EUNET.NO Wed Oct 21 11:56:09 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:56:09 +0100 Subject: HW/BOC: Lockheed not Leif & Heaven Forbid Message-ID: I remembered/posted in error - its the "Capt. Lockheed" CD I saw cheap 2nd hand, which I would snag for someone in trade for anything Hawk/psych related I am looking for.... Also I have a copy of BOC's "Heaven Forbid" CD to trade (would trade for the much derided (?) "Mirrors"! :) Christian ObCD's: Ym:Stammen "Dvergm?l"/Lords Of Acid "Our Little Secret" From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Wed Oct 21 11:36:02 1998 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (Michael R Godwin) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:36:02 +0100 Subject: BOC: Snippet about Donnington In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19981021084941.0068edd0@mail1.wizvax.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, J. Scruton wrote: > Leafing through a Kerrang book on AC/DC, it reported that Eric Bloom was so > unhappy about Albert Bouchard walking out(?) that he through a > commemorative plaque BOC received on the grass and stomped on it. > Ah, the maturity of rock performers. Will it ever cease to amaze me? It's one of my few claims to fame, so let me go on about this again. Albert actually walked out following an SWU warm-up gig at Dunstable Civic Hall, which I saw. The result was that the Donnington gig, which was their first big UK festival appearance, featured a roadie on drums. Apparently BOC's set fell extremely flat, which is not surprising in the circs, and Eric expressed himself afterwards by jumping on the plaque. I definitely used to have a photo of this - whether I've still got it is anybody's guess. - Mike Godwin From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Oct 21 11:36:25 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:36:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Moorcock on drugs! Message-ID: This week's _Time Out_ (London listings magazine) is one of their periodic "drugs specials" - what makes this more interesting than usual is an article by Michael Moorcock. He writes about Hawkwind: "a band generally considered the ultimate 'acid head' band. Which it might have been. But it was also a well-rehearsed working band, with coherent principles and questioning, edgy, urban lyrics." Also Similin' Mike (of black motorcycle fame), who "lost his keys and decided to climb to his room, three storeys up. He almost made it. When he fell he impaled himself on the basement railings." But the thrust of the article is how the drug scene isn't what it was, and how (like everything else) it's all Mrs Thatcher's fault. - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Wed Oct 21 11:48:32 1998 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 01:48:32 +1000 Subject: Moorcock on drugs! In-Reply-To: <000c01bdfd08$8fe42060$613f63c3@default> Message-ID: If anyone wants the complete article and doesn't live in the UK, I have it as a text file and could e-mail it to anyone who's interested. The published article may be slightly different to the copy I have on file, depending on the editors of Time Out. By the by, did they end up using any photos in the article? - Max Wilcox -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU] On Behalf Of Andy Gilham Sent: Thursday, 22 October 1998 1:36 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: HW: Moorcock on drugs! This week's _Time Out_ (London listings magazine) is one of their periodic "drugs specials" - what makes this more interesting than usual is an article by Michael Moorcock. He writes about Hawkwind: "a band generally considered the ultimate 'acid head' band. Which it might have been. But it was also a well-rehearsed working band, with coherent principles and questioning, edgy, urban lyrics." Also Similin' Mike (of black motorcycle fame), who "lost his keys and decided to climb to his room, three storeys up. He almost made it. When he fell he impaled himself on the basement railings." But the thrust of the article is how the drug scene isn't what it was, and how (like everything else) it's all Mrs Thatcher's fault. - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Oct 21 12:17:45 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 17:17:45 +0100 Subject: BOC: Snippet about Donnington In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19981021084941.0068edd0@mail1.wizvax.net> Message-ID: Twas true because I was there. Kerrang printed a picture of the act in the Donington issue that came out a couple of weeks later, which implies that Eric waited for a photographer to arrive before his 'spontaneous' act. Z At 08:49 21/10/1998 -0400, you wrote: >Leafing through a Kerrang book on AC/DC, it reported that Eric Bloom was so >unhappy about Albert Bouchard walking out(?) that he through a >commemorative plaque BOC received on the grass and stomped on it. >Ah, the maturity of rock performers. Will it ever cease to amaze me? > >Jason > >PS: Upon listening to "Ragamuffin Dumpling" recently, I noticed that the >riff for "The Subhuman" is being played in the background. They were a good >band. I really like the Byrds-ish sound of the chording--makes things >"dangerous..." > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER c/o Shamrock Multimedia,PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM Wed Oct 21 12:39:31 1998 From: stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 12:39:31 -0400 Subject: HW: HawkFairies New CD ? Message-ID: Anyone got any info on this ? Just seen it at the rpm records site. Somewhat wary after other comments on a previous PinkWind CD (poor sound quality ?) Hawk Fairies- Purple Haze / Members of Hawkwind and the Pink Fairies (also know as Pinkwind), recorded live at the Purple Haze Club in 1995; features Nik Turner and Twink, among others..........$15.99 Cheers, Steve L From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Wed Oct 21 13:23:53 1998 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:23:53 +0100 Subject: HW: HawkFairies New CD ? In-Reply-To: <199810211639.MAA20013@dogberry> Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Oct 1998, Stephen Lindsey wrote: > Anyone got any info on this ? It is terrible. No honest, it is irredeemably poor. > Just seen it at the rpm records site. Somewhat wary after other comments > on a previous PinkWind CD (poor sound quality ?) and poor musical ability, and poor songs, and pointless versions of songs. > Hawk Fairies- Purple Haze / Members of Hawkwind and the Pink Fairies (also know > as Pinkwind), recorded live at the > Purple Haze Club in 1995; features Nik Turner and Twink, among > others..........$15.99 It is quite an old CD. I think there are a couple of HW covers, but they sound as if the band have barely decided which NT compositions to do, let alone trying to practice them. Actually this might be a bit harsh, but I'm not going back to listen to it to be sure. Mike w However it was probably me who ranted against it last time, so if anyone else out there has a different point of view then don't let me put you off. From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Wed Oct 21 13:34:47 1998 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 03:34:47 +1000 Subject: HW: HawkFairies New CD ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Don't have any info on the HawkFairies disk, but I can confirm that the PinkWind CD is doggy doo. The highlight of the album for me is the "shit in the pit" comment made by some off-their-face hippy-sounding guy. Set the tone for the whole thing, really. - max wilcox From sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK Wed Oct 21 11:39:21 1998 From: sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:39:21 +0100 Subject: BOC: Snippet about Donnington Message-ID: Subject: BOC: Snippet about Donnington >Leafing through a Kerrang book on AC/DC, it reported that Eric Bloom was so >unhappy about Albert Bouchard walking out(?) that he through a >commemorative plaque BOC received on the grass and stomped on it. >Ah, the maturity of rock performers. Will it ever cease to amaze me? Haha! I`ve actually got some photos of him doing it as well in an old book. I`m sure it was just a photo oportuniity thing. Si ----- "I`ve got 'some' answers to 'most' of your questions!" The Alice Cooper Trivia File - http://village.vossnet.co.uk/s/sihalley/intro.html My Tubes Page - http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/7998/ From wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Oct 21 14:10:10 1998 From: wandering-star at GEOCITIES.COM (wandering-star) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:10:10 +0100 Subject: HW: HawkFairies New CD ? Message-ID: Anything relating to Pinkwind.. Is loadacrap... Total waste of money indeed ;-) Rich From peter at FAIRFIELD.KAROO.CO.UK Wed Oct 21 14:46:18 1998 From: peter at FAIRFIELD.KAROO.CO.UK (Peter Greendale) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:46:18 +0100 Subject: BOC: Snippet about Donnington Message-ID: massimo rippa wrote: > J. Scruton ha scritto: > > > Leafing through a Kerrang book on AC/DC, it reported that Eric Bloom was so > > unhappy about Albert Bouchard walking out(?) that he through a > > commemorative plaque BOC received on the grass and stomped on it. > > Ah, the maturity of rock performers. Will it ever cease to amaze me? > > > > Jason > > > > Well, what I know of Donnington is that BOC were in quarrel with the > organization, and broke some plaques of the festival due to time limitation of > the concert, and restrictions on the use of lights, effects and H.D. on stage > What about the maturity of rock promoters? I was at this concert and amongst the above problems, BOC were not featured in the souvineer program for the day, also, I beleive they were excluded from the official T shirt. They followed a rejuvinated Slade that day and I'm afrain fell rather flat. There was a picture in SOUNDS the next week of Eric trashing the plaque and a quote thus, 'the new wave is a crock of shit' Those were the days.......... Peter Greendale Hull England From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Wed Oct 21 16:59:16 1998 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 20:59:16 +0000 Subject: HW: HawkFairies New CD ? In-Reply-To: <362E2382.F88D461A@geocities.com> Message-ID: I wouldn't have bothered responding except for the amount of hostility expressed in this and other replies... I have the CD originally inquired of, and whilst I wouldn't wish to pay full price for it (as I believe the original question mentioned), I found it to be kinda fun and it is a good reminder of the one time I saw Pinkwind. It's not that bad.... it's just not great, either. Alasdair On 21 Oct 98 at 19:10, wandering-star wrote: > Anything relating to Pinkwind.. > Is loadacrap... > > Total waste of money indeed ;-) > > Rich > -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Wed Oct 21 16:02:56 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 16:02:56 -0400 Subject: Toads Place, New Haven CT (10/16) Message-ID: I love Stairways as the opening song. I miss Last Days, though. > ---------- > From: BREVARD, Adrian R.[SMTP:abrevard at SHL.COM] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 10:39 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: BOC: Toads Place, New Haven CT (10/16) > > >Play list for the Toad's Place concert was > > Burnin' For You > Cities on Flame > E.T.I. > Harvest Moon > Take Me Away > Bucks Boogie (6:16) > Joan Crawford > Live for Me > Flaming Telepaths > See You in Black > Astrnomy > ME262 > (mini blues jam session - 1 min) > In Thee > Godzilla > Reaper > ---------------------------- > Lips in the Hills > The Red and the Black > **************************************** > I like this setlist a lot. Good to see Astronomy, Take Me Away and > ME262 in the mix. Now if only they would resurrect Stairway to the > Stars and drop Burnin' from the top of the setlist. > > Ghost in the Ruins > OBCD - King's X Tapehead (bass players this one is a must have!) > OBnever to early to start the holidays - Trans Siberian Orchestra - > Christmas Attic > From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Oct 21 17:02:55 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:02:55 +0100 Subject: Moorcock on drugs! In-Reply-To: <000501bdfd0a$42535620$2e916682@default> Message-ID: > > If anyone wants the complete article and doesn't live in the UK, I have it > as a text file and could e-mail it to anyone who's interested. > The published > article may be slightly different to the copy I have on file, depending on > the editors of Time Out. By the by, did they end up using any > photos in the > article? No, just a postage-stamp size headshot of MM, and a 60's archive pic of the Grateful Dead. Do you get this stuff through the Nomads? - Andy ObPissedOff: BBC2 postponing an entertaining-looking documentary about a concerned mother going on tour with Cradle of Filth and getting on with them like a house on fire, in favour of an episode of Miss Marple in a "tribute" to the old dear who used to play the silly old bat mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG Wed Oct 21 18:36:16 1998 From: Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG (Olivier Boigey) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 00:36:16 +0200 Subject: HW: HawkFairies New CD ? In-Reply-To: <199810211639.MAA20013@dogberry> Message-ID: In message ID <199810211639.MAA20013 at dogberry> on 21/10/98, BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List wrote: BDL> Anyone got any info on this ? BDL> BDL> Just seen it at the rpm records site. Somewhat wary after other comments BDL> on a previous PinkWind CD (poor sound quality ?) BDL> BDL> BDL> Hawk Fairies- Purple Haze / Members of Hawkwind and the Pink BDL> Fairies (also know as Pinkwind), recorded live at the BDL> Purple Haze Club in 1995; features Nik Turner and Twink, among BDL> others..........$15.99 BDL> BDL> Cheers, BDL> Steve L Definitely good compared to the precedent one, sound is really harsh, lots of solo stuff, and sound quality acceptable, but Nik's throat not at its best; I rather prefer the instrumental bits. _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Olivier Boigey 35 rue Navier 75017 - Paris - FRANCE TEL/FAX: 33 1 42 26 38 15 e-mail: olivier_boigey at technolink.org http://www.altern.org/obwaje/hmpg.htm _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ - sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered). From simplius at SOFTHOME.NET Wed Oct 21 18:39:59 1998 From: simplius at SOFTHOME.NET (Goran Janicijevic) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 18:39:59 -0400 Subject: BOC: Snippet about Donnington Message-ID: Peter Greendale wrote: > They followed a rejuvinated Slade that day and I'm afrain fell rather flat. There > was a picture in SOUNDS the next week of Eric trashing the plaque and a quote thus, > 'the new wave is a crock of shit' > Those were the days.......... So, what was the problem: Organization, new wave, or Al's departure? Simplius From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Wed Oct 21 22:34:26 1998 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:34:26 -0500 Subject: BOC: Toads Place, New Haven CT (10/16) Message-ID: BREVARD, Adrian R. wrote: > >Play list for the Toad's Place concert was > > Burnin' For You > Cities on Flame > E.T.I. > Harvest Moon > Take Me Away > Bucks Boogie (6:16) > Joan Crawford > Live for Me > Flaming Telepaths > See You in Black > Astrnomy > ME262 > (mini blues jam session - 1 min) > In Thee > Godzilla > Reaper > ---------------------------- > Lips in the Hills > The Red and the Black > **************************************** > I like this setlist a lot. Good to see Astronomy, Take Me Away and > ME262 in the mix. Now if only they would resurrect Stairway to the > Stars and drop Burnin' from the top of the setlist. > I agree, The best opening songs have always been Stairway or Red and Black in my opinion, but it was nice to hear them break up the big three, I was kind of excited to hear them open with Burnin though, I knew then that it wouldn't be a predictable set anyway. Laj. > Ghost in the Ruins > OBCD - King's X Tapehead (bass players this one is a must have!) > OBnever to early to start the holidays - Trans Siberian Orchestra - > Christmas Attic From peter at FAIRFIELD.KAROO.CO.UK Thu Oct 22 03:44:38 1998 From: peter at FAIRFIELD.KAROO.CO.UK (Peter Greendale) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 08:44:38 +0100 Subject: BOC: Snippet about Donnington Message-ID: Goran Janicijevic wrote: > Peter Greendale wrote: > > > They followed a rejuvinated Slade that day and I'm afrain fell rather flat. There > > was a picture in SOUNDS the next week of Eric trashing the plaque and a quote thus, > > 'the new wave is a crock of shit' > > Those were the days.......... > > So, what was the problem: Organization, new wave, or Al's departure? > > Simplius I believe that BOC were in dispute with the organisers/promoter re. marketing. Hence their absence from souvineers for that occasion. The photo was, as someone else said , a good oppourtunity for a staged outburst. The 'new wave' comment was I suspect not Eric's at all (or if it was a quote, it was also 'staged') at that time SOUNDS was in it's HM phase, unlike a couple of years before, so it stacked up with it's policy of the time. 1981 of course. It is unclear to me anyway, what the effect of Albert's departure was at this time but BOC's placing on this bill still mystifies me, it being essentially a 'boogie' bill, and their placing after Slade particularly unfortunate. Peter Greendale From a.hughes at NEWI.AC.UK Thu Oct 22 04:09:28 1998 From: a.hughes at NEWI.AC.UK (Alun Hughes) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 09:09:28 +0100 Subject: BOC: Deep Reduction Message-ID: This is from the Deniz Tek page (http://www.ozemail.com.au/~citadel/english/tek/dtnews.html) You have to read to the end to get the BOC connection! Alun DEEP REDUCTION SAGA MAY BE RESOLVED: After much frustration, the long awaited Deep Reduction album has finally been scheduled for a mid November release. The eponymously titled album was recorded early this year in Mechanicsburg, PA. Regrettably, the band's cover artwork was rejected by US label Get Hip and the following (sometimes acrimonious) discussions delayed the project. Initially it will be available in Australia and Europe as an import. Deep Reduction combines Deniz with members of the Stump Wizards on a collaborative project that delves heavily into their roots ... resulting in a set of garage based hard rock that touches on psychedelic blues, garage punk and acid folk, with trademark guitars and with most songs coming in under 3 minutes. Most of the material was written by Deniz in collaboration with Jack Chiara, and there are two cover versions of original songs by Michel Polnareff and The Vibrators. (...)] The band is already in the planning stages for their second album, although it is not yet clear what label it will be on. Interestingly, they have recruited Blue Oyster Cult guitarist Buck Dharma to assist with production on Deep Red Two. - Alun From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Thu Oct 22 01:50:37 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 05:50:37 +0000 Subject: BOC: Metallica cover BOC Message-ID: > Sorry if I missed this but Kerrang! has a listing of the new Metallica > covers album and it will feature a cover of Astronomy! > > Si Yeah...they've actually got some pretty bizarre stuff on that disc. So much so that I'm getting pretty tempted to buy it, even though I've never liked Metallica. The one I'd love to hear the most is their version of Bob Seger's "Turn the Page"(?) -- Nick From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 22 06:40:58 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 11:40:58 +0100 Subject: HW: HawkFairies New CD ? In-Reply-To: wandering-star's message of Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:10:10 +0100 Message-ID: wandering-star writes: > Anything relating to Pinkwind.. > Is loadacrap... Not totally true. We had a fabby time at the gig at the Emerald Centre a few years ago. > Rich FoFP From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Oct 22 09:58:01 1998 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 14:58:01 +0100 Subject: Donnington '81 In-Reply-To: <199810220900.FAA03295@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: This caught me eye... > I believe that BOC were in dispute with the organisers/promoter re. marketing. Hence >their absence from souvineers for that occasion. The photo was, as someone else said , a >good oppourtunity for a staged outburst. The 'new wave' comment was I suspect not Eric's >at all (or if it was a quote, it was also 'staged') at that time SOUNDS was in it's HM >phase, unlike a couple of years before, so it stacked up with it's policy of the time. >1981 of course. >It is unclear to me anyway, what the effect of Albert's departure was at this time but >BOC's placing on this bill still mystifies me, it being essentially a 'boogie' bill, and >their placing after Slade particularly unfortunate. As I recall the promoters were MCP and the dispute as I heard it was aimed initially at the way that the organisers were being "dictated to by one group of artisits" (AC/DC), IIRC it was AC/DC who had the ultimate control over the levels of sound produced by everyone else... Noddy Holder actually hinted at this during the set by Slade and was overheard having a dig backstage afterwards ( I managed to snaff a ticket off one of the organisers for 81 thru 85 ). I didn't witness the incident above but staged or not it expressed some of the feelings felt by more than just BOC on the day. I remember BOC's set and although not one of the best by any stretch it was as good as could be expected under the circumstances I thought, roadie on drums etc, anyway it was the first time I saw 'em live. !! Mark. Gleefully giggling his way along the humpbacked highway of life... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.demon.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Oct 22 12:07:11 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 17:07:11 +0100 Subject: HW: HawkFairies New CD ? Message-ID: >> Anyone got any info on this ? > > It is terrible. > No honest, it is irredeemably poor. Yup. It's a pile of big floppy pants which makes Yuri Gargarin look really quite good. -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Oct 22 13:32:41 1998 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 13:32:41 EDT Subject: OFF: DOTS IN NYC Message-ID: Dots tonite NYC Wetlands doors 8PM. The ususal suspects will be there. regards, Bill Stewart PS Yanks Win World Series again...hohum From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Thu Oct 22 13:33:49 1998 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:33:49 +0200 Subject: HW: The Elf & the Hawk CD. Message-ID: Hi there! Just wanna let you know that "The Elf & the Hawk" and Standarte?s "Stimmung" is delayed once again so the final release-date is in the middle of November. This delay is caused by the fact that BWR has modified the covers. All the best Hawkswede From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 22 14:06:13 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:06:13 +0100 Subject: HW: The Elf & the Hawk CD. In-Reply-To: Henrik Hallgren's message of Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:33:49 +0200 Message-ID: Henrik Hallgren writes: > Hi there! > > Just wanna let you know that "The Elf & the Hawk" and Standarte?s > "Stimmung" is delayed once again so the final release-date is in > the middle of November. This delay is caused by the fact that BWR > has modified the covers. hmph - obviously the 10th dimensional hologram pic sleeve cover art has got its strings in a knot again. I wonder if this is why Davey is issuing his Sci-fidelic CD/EP by himself. jill obSuddenShock> I'm about to become an Alien it would appear. My real passport expires in barely a few weeks time and it not only now costs 21 pounds just to get the thing renewed but I've also had to fork out a further 11 pounds to get a copy of a certificate to prove I was born on this planet. I guess Customs wouldn't accept my Hawkwind Passport..... ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET Thu Oct 22 16:59:42 1998 From: corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:59:42 -0400 Subject: BOC: Northern Lights, Clifton Park Message-ID: Reading the set list from Toads place confirmed my worst suspicions that we got a shortened set in for our show last Saturday. When it looked like BOC were just about to go on, Eric came on and introduced a band from Suny Albany who did three songs. Then after more waiting BOC came on and played. If any of BOC or someone in the know who reads our list has any idea whether one of the band members was late to the gig or what the actual proble was I would sure love to know. Please copy any responce to my email box as well corwyn at global2000.net Other than that it was a fine show by the way, Buck rocked, Eric looked great and sounded better, Allan was jamming more than last year (same place diff name to venue) and the rhythum section was fantastic. The drum solo during Godzilla was very very good. Didn't get an In thee or a lips but the stuff off of HF was really great, I had heard Harvest Moon last year so getting a See you in black was a great treat. The encores were Joan and The red and black. Sorry I was too "pissed" to remember the song order but that is what six beers on a semi empty stomach will do for you. The show was sponsored by 102.3 a local rock station so I assume they are playing cuts as well, but since I dont listen to that station I dont know. Ok shoot me, I prefer the alternative and NPR stations locally. On a side note for Hawkwind I ran into a canadian guy at a cable industry convention in Baltimore last week who was from the Manchester area of England who had seen Hawkwind years and years ago with Lemmy and couldnt believe that the group was still together. His booth was directly across from ours. The world is very small indeed. Mike From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Thu Oct 22 16:23:00 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 16:23:00 -0400 Subject: HW: HawkFairies New CD ? Message-ID: Is this the one with all the hendrix covers? If so, I would call it worth <5$. I paid ten for it and was annoyed. Bad sound, so-so performance, Nik shouldnt have bothered singing. rj -----Original Message----- From: Alasdair Macdonald To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Wednesday, October 21, 1998 4:06 PM Subject: Re: HW: HawkFairies New CD ? I wouldn't have bothered responding except for the amount of hostility expressed in this and other replies... I have the CD originally inquired of, and whilst I wouldn't wish to pay full price for it (as I believe the original question mentioned), I found it to be kinda fun and it is a good reminder of the one time I saw Pinkwind. It's not that bad.... it's just not great, either. Alasdair On 21 Oct 98 at 19:10, wandering-star wrote: > Anything relating to Pinkwind.. > Is loadacrap... > > Total waste of money indeed ;-) > > Rich > -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Oct 22 18:45:50 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:45:50 +0100 Subject: OFF: London Astoria Gigs Message-ID: OK, got my tickets today for Man (Nov 15) and Rob Zombie/Monster Magnet (Dec15). Who's up for these eh??? - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Oct 22 19:20:46 1998 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 19:20:46 EDT Subject: OFF: Calling Cpt. Cloud/Reviews of A.Lights/Krautrock Message-ID: I was annoyed that I couldn't find Cloud's e-mail address and that I'd have to contact him publically, but it's just as well, since I think I'll review the tapes he gave me. First of all, CHUCK--I sent your Lith X-mas CD but it was returned! I guess you moved. Wanna e-mail me your new address? As for your tapes, I really about half of it. The biggest highlight is certainly: the new Anubian Lights material--fucking brilliant again!! I've got to get ahold of this. Where do I get it? Is it import or Cleo? BTW, has anyone noticed that at the very end of "One Eye To The Sky", as it starts to fade, there's an effect which sounds exactly like, and might even be sampled from, a sound from the first HW album? I can't really describe it, but it's kind of an abrasive screech, though lower-pitched than you'd usually think of a "screech". Which reminds me, I think I heard the exact same sound somewhere on IItBotFtbD. So who knows, maybe Turner heard this, and sort of "retaliated"... The Zappa Guitar stuff--I don't really like this, or any of his extended guit solos in general. Go figure... Now onto the Krautrock Blitzkrieg: Can: My favorites were the tunes from Ege Bamyasi. Obviously that and Tago Mago are the next ones for me to purchase. Cosmic Jokers: I think it'll just take time, maybe try it w/the headphones. Ash Ra Tempel I: Different than the 2nd and 3rd albums, almost even a Sabbathy vibe at times. Not bad. Faust IV: Awesome. I used to see this CD at Best Buy all the time, why didn't I buy it. Now of course that store doesn't stock anything decent anymore... Well, that wasn't as detailed as I thought it would be. I have lots to do. Any comments? Chuck From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Fri Oct 23 00:14:37 1998 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 23:14:37 -0500 Subject: Donnington '81 Message-ID: Mark P Lee wrote: > This caught me eye... > > > I believe that BOC were in dispute with the organisers/promoter re. > marketing. Hence > >their absence from souvineers for that occasion. The photo was, as someone > else said , a > >good oppourtunity for a staged outburst. The 'new wave' comment was I > suspect not Eric's > >at all (or if it was a quote, it was also 'staged') at that time SOUNDS > was in it's HM > > >phase, unlike a couple of years before, so it stacked up with it's policy > of the time. > >1981 of course. > >It is unclear to me anyway, what the effect of Albert's departure was at > this time but > >BOC's placing on this bill still mystifies me, it being essentially a > 'boogie' bill, and > >their placing after Slade particularly unfortunate. > > As I recall the promoters were MCP and the dispute as I heard it was aimed > initially at the way that the organisers were being "dictated to by one > group of > artisits" (AC/DC), IIRC it was AC/DC who had the ultimate control over the > levels > of sound produced by everyone else... Noddy Holder actually hinted at this > during > the set by Slade and was overheard having a dig backstage afterwards ( I > managed > to snaff a ticket off one of the organisers for 81 thru 85 ). I didn't > witness the > incident above but staged or not it expressed some of the feelings felt by > more > than just BOC on the day. I remember BOC's set and although not one of the > best by any stretch it was as good as could be expected under the > circumstances > I thought, roadie on drums etc, anyway it was the first time I saw 'em > live. !! > > Mark. > > Gleefully giggling his way along the humpbacked highway of life... > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Please reply to > > mark at esparto.demon.co.uk > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Does anybody still remember the bands that played this tour, and in what order? Just curious. Laj. From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Fri Oct 23 02:08:47 1998 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 15:08:47 +0900 Subject: Donnington '81 Message-ID: Laj Waldner wrote: > > Mark P Lee wrote: > > > This caught me eye... > > > > > I believe that BOC were in dispute with the organisers/promoter re. > > marketing. Hence > > >their absence from souvineers for that occasion. The photo was, as someone > > else said , a > > >good oppourtunity for a staged outburst. The 'new wave' comment was I > > suspect not Eric's > > >at all (or if it was a quote, it was also 'staged') at that time SOUNDS > > was in it's HM > > > > >phase, unlike a couple of years before, so it stacked up with it's policy > > of the time. > > >1981 of course. > > >It is unclear to me anyway, what the effect of Albert's departure was at > > this time but > > >BOC's placing on this bill still mystifies me, it being essentially a > > 'boogie' bill, and > > >their placing after Slade particularly unfortunate. > > > > As I recall the promoters were MCP and the dispute as I heard it was aimed > > initially at the way that the organisers were being "dictated to by one > > group of > > artisits" (AC/DC), IIRC it was AC/DC who had the ultimate control over the > > levels > > of sound produced by everyone else... Noddy Holder actually hinted at this > > during > > the set by Slade and was overheard having a dig backstage afterwards ( I > > managed > > to snaff a ticket off one of the organisers for 81 thru 85 ). I didn't > > witness the > > incident above but staged or not it expressed some of the feelings felt by > > more > > than just BOC on the day. I remember BOC's set and although not one of the > > best by any stretch it was as good as could be expected under the > > circumstances > > I thought, roadie on drums etc, anyway it was the first time I saw 'em > > live. !! > > > > Mark. > > > > Gleefully giggling his way along the humpbacked highway of life... > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Please reply to > > > > mark at esparto.demon.co.uk > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Does anybody still remember the bands that played this tour, and in what order? > Just curious. > > Laj. Wish I could! All I remember was the food stalls being upended one by one by a group of denimed teens, the fact that the Slade set was superb, the BOC set pleasantly surprising given I had never seen them before, and that I got bored in AC/DC's set and went off to spend the night under a hedge. Ah, youth, where are you now. DaveG From Nebosuke at AOL.COM Fri Oct 23 02:10:17 1998 From: Nebosuke at AOL.COM (Chris Baker) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 02:10:17 EDT Subject: BOC: Northern Lights, Clifton Park Message-ID: Michael S. Habiby writes: > Reading the set list from Toads place confirmed my worst suspicions that we got a shortened set in for our show last Saturday. When it looked like BOC were just about to go on, Eric came on and introduced a band from Suny Albany who did three songs... I don't know what the deal with the short set was, but is was posted on AOL that the SUNY band featured Bloom's son. -Chris Baker From shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM Fri Oct 23 02:55:27 1998 From: shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 07:55:27 +0100 Subject: BOC: Donington '81 Message-ID: 1981 ACDC Whitesnake Blue Oyster Cult Slade Blackfoot More and for the Hawkfans out there, how about THIS for an eclectic bill... 1982 Status Quo Gillan Saxon Hawkwind Uriah Heep Anvil them were the days.... Neil. From Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG Fri Oct 23 04:37:03 1998 From: Olivier_Boigey at TECHNOLINK.ORG (Olivier Boigey) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 10:37:03 +0200 Subject: HW: HawkFairies New CD ? In-Reply-To: <179343.3118064831@mac006.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: In message ID <179343.3118064831 at mac006.joh.cam.ac.uk> on 22/10/98, BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List wrote: BDL> Yup. It's a pile of big floppy pants which makes Yuri Gargarin BDL> look really quite good. Aaargh! Yuri Gagarin has the poorer sound of all; I may have listened to it twice for 10 years, in the contrary the Hawkfairies live is very Icorrect, and has a raw live sound, just like if you were thereI Olivier _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Olivier Boigey 35 rue Navier 75017 - Paris - FRANCE TEL/FAX: 33 1 42 26 38 15 e-mail: olivier_boigey at technolink.org http://www.altern.org/obwaje/hmpg.htm _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ - sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered). From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Fri Oct 23 08:26:11 1998 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (J. Scruton) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 08:26:11 -0400 Subject: BOC: Northern Lights, Clifton Park In-Reply-To: <70e81238.36301dc9@aol.com> Message-ID: At 02:10 AM 10/23/98 EDT, you wrote: > >I don't know what the deal with the short set was, but is was posted on AOL >that the SUNY band featured Bloom's son. > >-Chris Baker >From numerous persons on campus, I've heard that E.Bloom's son attends SUNY Albany as an undergrad. At the grad school, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From antisol at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Oct 23 10:52:04 1998 From: antisol at HOTMAIL.COM (The Automind) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 07:52:04 PDT Subject: OFF: Pink Dots in Cincinnati Message-ID: >from the U. Cincinnati campus, and hence is dominated by local >face-metal-alternakids. > >It musta been dollar-off goth night, as it seemed >as though anyone not totally dressed in black (like me) or wearing >WWF-style makeup were looked upon with disdain. Either that, or >people were getting >an early start on Halloween. Its a shame I couldn't attend the Boston show Tuesday. I would have worn a white button-down shirt with a blinking LED tie and carried a can of mace. >And for whatever reason, everyone seemed to be >smoking clove cigarettes, which I will now state as being the most >disgusting f*cking things ever invented. I may have to burn my >clothing now. "waaaaaah you dont understand us! we have to smoke *something* to look cool and Marlboro's are conformist!" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Oct 23 11:46:41 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 16:46:41 +0100 Subject: OFF: London Astoria Gigs Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 22, 1998 11:45 pm +0100 "Andy Gilham" wrote: > OK, got my tickets today for Man (Nov 15) and Rob Zombie/Monster Magnet > (Dec15). Who's up for these eh??? Zombie/MM for sure. Will have to consider Man, based on the fact that I have to go down to London on the 11th for QotSA/Orange Goblin. Cheers, carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Fri Oct 23 12:24:24 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 17:24:24 +0100 Subject: BOC: Donington '81/HW Merchandise In-Reply-To: <199810230655.HAA13532@achemar.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> Message-ID: Having dug out my Doningtin 81 flyer it would appear that BOC were not the only ones with a complaint. The rather crappy T only has AC/DC, Whitesnake, Slade & More billed, so no Blackfoor either. I don't recall Rick Rattlesnake Medlocke or Jackson Thunderfoot Spires having a wobbly. Perhaps it was due to late confirmation by the bands/management, what with merchandise being produced months in advance. But of course the management would never admit to cocking it up. And now to really piss everyone off, those prices in full. Sweatshirt ?8 T-shirt ?4 Programme ?1.50 Button Badge 50p Which to drag HW into the equation even further is the same price as the Levitation tour merchandise except you could also get a HW metal badge for a pound! And to think I used to complain. Z NP Deep Purple - Knebworth 85 At 07:55 23/10/1998 +0100, you wrote: >1981 >ACDC >Whitesnake >Blue Oyster Cult >Slade >Blackfoot >More > >and for the Hawkfans out there, how about THIS for an eclectic bill... > >1982 >Status Quo >Gillan >Saxon >Hawkwind >Uriah Heep >Anvil > > >them were the days.... > >Neil. > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER c/o Shamrock Multimedia,PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Oct 23 13:21:27 1998 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:21:27 +0100 Subject: OFF: London Astoria Gigs In-Reply-To: <000001bdfe0d$b7dd3740$aa3f63c3@default> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Oct 1998, Andy Gilham wrote: > OK, got my tickets today for Man (Nov 15) and Rob Zombie/Monster Magnet > (Dec15). Who's up for these eh??? Glurk! Up for the second all right! Where is it? I had no idea MM were playing over here. It _is_ over here, is it? Jon (back fulltime at last) /----------------------------------------------------------\ | Jonathan Jarrett Pembroke College | | jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge | | 01223 338100 CB2 1RF | |----------------------------------------------------------| | "Wilhelm Reich died for your sins" (ST37) | \----------------------------------------------------------/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Fri Oct 23 13:22:05 1998 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:22:05 +0100 Subject: OFF: London Astoria Gigs In-Reply-To: <000001bdfe0d$b7dd3740$aa3f63c3@default> Message-ID: Dear Andy, oops! Just read the subject header. Yes, consider me there! Yours, Jon /----------------------------------------------------------\ | Jonathan Jarrett Pembroke College | | jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge | | 01223 338100 CB2 1RF | |----------------------------------------------------------| | "Wilhelm Reich died for your sins" (ST37) | \----------------------------------------------------------/ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Oct 23 13:54:20 1998 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 13:54:20 -0400 Subject: HW/OFF: Cool Space Rock Bands on tour Message-ID: Hi Folks... Just wanted to get the word out about three very cool space rock acts doing some shows around the NE/Central US. First, there's Asteroid #4 from Philadelphia, PA. Excellent debut CD called 'Introducing...' available from the band's own Lounge Records label. (see http://www.voicenet.com/~lounge/ for more info.) They will be at the following places... *October 23 (Tonight!) - Black Cat, Wash. DC October 25 (Sunday!) - Neptune (Record Shop) in-store performance at 2 pm, Royal Oak, MI October 25 (Sunday night!) - 1529 Broadway (new club, no name yet), Detroit, MI (may be 1525 Broadway, not sure) *October 27 - Empty Bottle, Chicago *October 29 - Maxwell's, Hoboken, NJ November 7 - Baby Jupiter (CMJ music fest, 11 pm), I'm guessing this is either NYC (as below) or perhaps Philly Some (*) dates will also feature another band (Lilys) presumably as support (?) Check 'em out...they should be cool. Also, the great psych/space group from Texas called '7% Solution' will be in NYC for a single show on Thursday, November 05, 1998 at 11 PM at the Knitting Factory (CMJ ShowCase). They've got some more dates later on down in their home territory (Dallas/Fort Worth)...www.sevenpercent.com for more details. Finally, the very cool heavy psych band (somewhere between Kingston Wall and Monster Magnet) 'Walk On Water' (Detroit, MI) will be heading to NYC on Friday November 6, 1998 to play at the Continental Club as part of this same CMJ fest. Enjoy! (I wish I could be there in NYC, but then I'm seeing both WOW and Asteroid #4 in Michigan this weekend, so I can't complain.) Keith H. (FAA) P.S. What is CMJ anyway?? It looks like they're bringing in a whole slew of cool space/psych bands to the City. From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Oct 23 22:12:03 1998 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 22:12:03 -0400 Subject: HW: Theta Orionis Message-ID: Hi Folks... Was just wondering if anyone could tell me what sort of sound quality this bootleg CD has. Thanks... Keith H. (FAA) From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Fri Oct 23 23:20:12 1998 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 22:20:12 -0500 Subject: Donnington '81 Message-ID: Dave Greenhalgh wrote: > Laj Waldner wrote: > > > > Mark P Lee wrote: > > > > > This caught me eye... > > > > > > > I believe that BOC were in dispute with the organisers/promoter re. > > > marketing. Hence > > > >their absence from souvineers for that occasion. The photo was, as someone > > > else said , a > > > >good oppourtunity for a staged outburst. The 'new wave' comment was I > > > suspect not Eric's > > > >at all (or if it was a quote, it was also 'staged') at that time SOUNDS > > > was in it's HM > > > > > > >phase, unlike a couple of years before, so it stacked up with it's policy > > > of the time. > > > >1981 of course. > > > >It is unclear to me anyway, what the effect of Albert's departure was at > > > this time but > > > >BOC's placing on this bill still mystifies me, it being essentially a > > > 'boogie' bill, and > > > >their placing after Slade particularly unfortunate. > > > > > > As I recall the promoters were MCP and the dispute as I heard it was aimed > > > initially at the way that the organisers were being "dictated to by one > > > group of > > > artisits" (AC/DC), IIRC it was AC/DC who had the ultimate control over the > > > levels > > > of sound produced by everyone else... Noddy Holder actually hinted at this > > > during > > > the set by Slade and was overheard having a dig backstage afterwards ( I > > > managed > > > to snaff a ticket off one of the organisers for 81 thru 85 ). I didn't > > > witness the > > > incident above but staged or not it expressed some of the feelings felt by > > > more > > > than just BOC on the day. I remember BOC's set and although not one of the > > > best by any stretch it was as good as could be expected under the > > > circumstances > > > I thought, roadie on drums etc, anyway it was the first time I saw 'em > > > live. !! > > > > > > Mark. > > > > > > Gleefully giggling his way along the humpbacked highway of life... > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > Please reply to > > > > > > mark at esparto.demon.co.uk > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > Does anybody still remember the bands that played this tour, and in what order? > > Just curious. > > > > Laj. > > Wish I could! All I remember was the food stalls being upended one by > one by a group of denimed teens, the fact that the Slade set was > superb, the BOC set pleasantly surprising given I had never seen them > before, and that I got bored in AC/DC's set and went off to spend the > night under a hedge. Ah, youth, where are you now. > > DaveG Sounds like fun to me :-). Laj. From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Sat Oct 24 00:57:21 1998 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 21:57:21 -0700 Subject: HW: Theta Orionis Message-ID: >Hi Folks... > >Was just wondering if anyone could tell me what sort of sound quality this >bootleg CD has. > >Thanks... > >Keith H. (FAA) Mostly excellent, although the the live stuff from Cambridge Junction 11/11/93 is comparatively crappy. This baffled me, since there are definitely much better-sounding tapes of this tour out there....... Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu http://www.psn.net/~novadrive/ From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Sat Oct 24 02:35:58 1998 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:35:58 +1000 Subject: OFF: Donnington Question In-Reply-To: <363002AD.ACCBD9B7@dlcwest.com> Message-ID: Howdy All, I've always been keen to know weather people actually know anything about Bad News "performing" at Donnington. Did they actually perform? If so, did anyone actually see them? Now that would have been a thing to see... Max Wilcox From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Oct 24 05:24:23 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:24:23 +0100 Subject: OFF: Donnington Question In-Reply-To: <000101bdff18$8f1d4500$2e916682@default> Message-ID: I was there, they did 'perform', and yes I did hit Ade Edmondson with a bottle of 'water'. The Comic Strip never were funny and my only regret is that I didn't nail them all. Z NP Whitesnake live at the marquee 1980 At 16:35 24/10/1998 +1000, you wrote: >Howdy All, > > I've always been keen to know weather people actually know anything about >Bad News "performing" at Donnington. Did they actually perform? If so, did >anyone actually see them? Now that would have been a thing to see... > >Max Wilcox > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER c/o Shamrock Multimedia,PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From christmu at EUNET.NO Sat Oct 24 11:01:48 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:01:48 +0100 Subject: HW: Six Hour Spacerock Special playlist Message-ID: Uh?rt/RadiOrakel, Oslo FM 99.3, 24/10/98, 12:00 - 06:00 AM: What Do You Turn On When You Turn On? - Dr. Timothy Leary (You Can Be Anyone This Time Around, 1970) Superficial Roadblocks - Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come (Journey, 1972) Not In Vogue - Glenn Fletcher (Void, 1998) Ejection - Hawkwind (Undisclosed Files, 1989) Levitation - Amorphis (My Kantele, 1997) Many Brains Have Died - Mooseheart Faith (Global Brain, 1996) Void City - Hawkwind (Choose Your Masques 1982) S.A.L.T. - Orb (Orblivion, 1997) Inner Vastness of Space - Melting Euphoria w/Don Falcone (Through The Strands Of Time, 1994) L=sd^2 - Ship Of Fools Spirit Of The Age - Fly Ashtray (Assassins Of Silence/Hundred Watt Violence, 1996 (Hawkwind tribute)) The Sutler - National Steam (National Steam, 1998) *competition: "hva skrur du p? n?r du skrur p?? (what do you turn on when you turn on?)" prize was National Steam CD and copy of Aural Innovations* A Trip To G9 - Spiral Realms (A Trip To G9, 1996) Creature - Melting Euphoria (Creature of The Velvet Void, 1997) And The Ants Marched On - Tribe Of Cro (Hydroculture, 1997) Radiation King - Alien Planetscapes (Life On Earth, 1997) You Are Just A Flying Egg - Mooseheart Faith Stellar Groove Band (Succour comp. 1996) Air - Quarkspace (Live Orion 97, 1998) Two Hours Over Two Blue Mountains With A Cuckoo On Each Side, Of The Hours... That Is - ?lgarnas Tr?dg?rd (Framtiden ?r ett sv?vande skepp, f?rankrad i f?rntiden, 1971) Goodbye Grace - Cardiacs (from Sampler CD) Tarred And Feathered - Cardiacs (from Sampler CD) Blind In Safety And Leafy In Love - Cardiacs (from Sampler CD) Veronica In Ecstacy - Cardiacs (from Sampler CD) Scream Thy Last Scream - Pink Floyd Spine of God (live) - Monster Magnet (Evil EP, 1992) Siren/The Grain Kings - Legendary Pink Dots (Canta Mientras Puedas, 90-95) The Hollow Earth - Mooseheart Faith Stellar Groove Band (Global Brain, 1996) Black Light - Temple (Unknown Deutschland: The Krautrock Archives vol. 1) Odinsrune - Bionaut (Au Naturel, 1997) Chris In Space - Alien Planetscapes (Life On Earth, 1997) Interstellar Shortwave - Astral Army (Unknown Deutschland: The Krautrock Archives vol. 1) end of show: Hawkwind, live at Reading University 19/05/92 ----- Well, this is what I played. All in all, at least music wise, it was sucessful. Possibly with one exception: I later regretted playing the live Hawkwind show: or is my worrying unfounded? I made it clear that it was an excellent show to stay tuned for, even to tape, so that people would stay on for the full show. But is the price that someone might bootleg it and press it? Would the band approve either way? After all its "unauthorized", and have I crossed an ethical line from tape trading fan? I don't know in the case of Hawkwind, and its something I gave no further thought to until I actually put it on and and went home. In the future I will not play any full shows, or bootlegs, on the radio, unless I get authorization I guess. I would like to hear what others here think - did I cross an ethical line broadcasting the live Hawkwind show? There was a huge bootleg bickering thread on another list, and I know its a matter no one really agrees clearly on, but any advice would be good if I do another show in the future. I make no money from this, but I might also have "robbed" the hawks by broadcasting something they may want to release themselves? Christian From s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Sat Oct 24 10:11:28 1998 From: s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Patrick Cordiner) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:11:28 +1000 Subject: OFF: Donnington Question Message-ID: zeitgeist-scot wrote on Saturday, October 24, 1998 7:24 PM > I was there, they did 'perform', and yes I did hit Ade Edmondson with a > bottle of 'water'. > > The Comic Strip never were funny and my only regret is that I didn't nail > them all. > I beg to differ, seeing the recent telemovie from the BBC, and the comic and filming talents of that crew, I now have renewed faith in British comedy as I know it. `Bad News' was meant to be just that, extremely bad:-) Patrick. From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Oct 24 11:21:03 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 16:21:03 +0100 Subject: OFF: Donnington Question In-Reply-To: <199810241413.AAA23745@bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: At 00:11 25/10/1998 +1000, you wrote: >zeitgeist-scot wrote on >Saturday, October 24, 1998 7:24 PM > >> I was there, they did 'perform', and yes I did hit Ade Edmondson with a >> bottle of 'water'. >> >> The Comic Strip never were funny and my only regret is that I didn't nail >> them all. >> > >I beg to differ, seeing the recent telemovie from the BBC, and the comic >and filming talents of that crew, I now have renewed faith in British >comedy as I know it. `Bad News' was meant to be just that, extremely bad:-) > >Patrick. > Yes, but television comedy is just that. Televisual. It's not funny when they prat around on the stage at Donington. Just as Spinal Tap was a movie, when they started making records and touring it went from comedy to farce. And nothing can convince me that the Comedy Strip were anything but unfunny, middle class, university graduates who should never been allowed in front of a camera. It may have been funny in front of 100 other undergraduates, but please! Z ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER c/o Shamrock Multimedia,PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From christmu at EUNET.NO Sat Oct 24 12:34:33 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 17:34:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Six Hour Spacerock Special (corrected) playlist Message-ID: Uh?rt/RadiOrakel, Oslo FM 99.3, 24/10/98, 12:00 - 06:00 AM: What Do You Turn On When You Turn On? - Dr. Timothy Leary (You Can Be Anyone This Time Around, 1970) Superficial Roadblocks - Arthur Brown's Kingdom Come (Journey, 1972) Not In Vogue - Glenn Fletcher (Void, 1998) Ejection - Hawkwind (Undisclosed Files, 1989) Levitation - Amorphis (My Kantele, 1997) Many Brains Have Died - Mooseheart Faith (Global Brain, 1996) Void City - Hawkwind (Choose Your Masques 1982) S.A.L.T. - Orb (Orblivion, 1997) Inner Vastness of Space - Melting Euphoria w/Don Falcone (Through The Strands Of Time, 1994) L=sd^2 - Ship Of Fools (Close Your Eyes... (Forget The World), 1992) Spirit Of The Age - Fly Ashtray (Assassins Of Silence/Hundred Watt Violence, 1996 (Hawkwind tribute)) The Sutler - National Steam #4 *competition: "hva skrur du p? n?r du skrur p?? (what do you turn on when you turn on?)" prize was National Steam CD and copy of Aural Innovations* A Trip To G9 - Spiral Realms (A Trip To G9, 1996) Holographic Caves - Architectural Metaphor (Creature of The Velvet Void, 1997) And The Ants Marched On - Tribe Of Cro (Hydroculture, 1997) Radiation King - Alien Planetscapes (Life On Earth, 1997) You Are Just A Flying Egg - Mooseheart Faith Stellar Groove Band (Succour comp. 1996) Air - Quarkspace (Live Orion 97, 1998) Two Hours Over Two Blue Mountains With A Cuckoo On Each Side, Of The Hours... That Is - ?lgarnas Tr?dg?rd (Framtiden ?r ett sv?vande skepp, f?rankrad i f?rntiden, 1971) Goodbye Grace - Cardiacs (from Sampler CD) Tarred And Feathered - Cardiacs (from Sampler CD) Blind In Safety And Leafy In Love - Cardiacs (from Sampler CD) Veronica In Ecstacy - Cardiacs (from Sampler CD) Space Baby - Guru Guru (Open Air Burg Herzberg: Wir sind Kinder der Revolte Vol. 1, 1998) Scream Thy Last Scream - Pink Floyd Spine of God (live) - Monster Magnet (Evil EP, 1992) Siren/The Grain Kings - Legendary Pink Dots (Canta Mientras Puedas, 90-95) The Hollow Earth - Mooseheart Faith Stellar Groove Band (Global Brain, 1996) Black Light - Temple (Unknown Deutschland: The Krautrock Archives vol. 1) Odinsrune - Bionaut (Au Naturel, 1997) Chris In Space - Alien Planetscapes (Life On Earth, 1997) Interstellar Shortwave - Astral Army (Unknown Deutschland: The Krautrock Archives vol. 1) end of show: Hawkwind, live at Reading University 19/05/92 From s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Sat Oct 24 12:02:44 1998 From: s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Patrick Cordiner) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 02:02:44 +1000 Subject: OFF: Donnington Question Message-ID: > And nothing can convince me that the Comedy Strip were anything but > unfunny, middle class, university graduates who should never been allowed > in front of a camera. It may have been funny in front of 100 other > undergraduates, but please! Are you saying you didn't like:- Comic Strip Presents The Young Ones Bottom Absolutely Fabulous????? Were they any different from the Oxbridge Footlights crowd when they started out?, i.e. Monty Python, Goodies, etc. Patrick From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Sat Oct 24 12:25:15 1998 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (J. Scruton) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 12:25:15 -0400 Subject: HW: Help for a paper Message-ID: Hey there Hawkgang, Probably opening up a bag of worms, I'm thinking about writing a paper on the political interpretations of rock groups -- both in the material they play and how they are received, etc. So...obviously Hawkwind falls into that category of political participants. What I need though is to be pointed in webdirections for commentary in the press to that effect, song lyrics (already got "Urban Guerilla,""Hassan I Sabah," "Uncle Sam's On Mars" from spirit of the p/age.) and any other helpful things that might be pointed out about Hawkwind's doings on such a playing field. I'm fairly new to Hawkwind on the whole; a fan of BOC is me.. But I do have "Hall of the Mountain Grill." (Sad story: bought WotEoT and Space Ritual on vinyl (Just got to, you know?)... but no LP player. The stopre also had the Sonic Assasins EP w/the skull cover and 25 years on. Dig this, the MC5's Kick out the Jams LP was 30.00!! zounds! Glad I got the Fine Elektra cd issuing) But a turntable would be nice first.) Please email privately, unless of course, it's such a cool thing you want to point out that the list just has to know/be enlightned by. Thanks in advance and all that good blanga cheer, (now there would be a good song "We wish you a blanga christmas..." hehehe) Winds of time are blowing through me, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Oct 24 12:41:59 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 17:41:59 +0100 Subject: OFF: Humourless:Was Donnington Question In-Reply-To: <199810241604.CAA01801@bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: At 02:02 25/10/1998 +1000, you wrote: >> And nothing can convince me that the Comedy Strip were anything but >> unfunny, middle class, university graduates who should never been allowed >> in front of a camera. It may have been funny in front of 100 other >> undergraduates, but please! > >Are you saying you didn't like:- >Comic Strip Presents >The Young Ones Puerile and juvenile >Bottom Sporadically amusing toilet humour >Absolutely Fabulous????? Complete and utter tripe. In jokes for overpaid, undertalented luvvies. > >Were they any different from the Oxbridge Footlights crowd when they >started out?, i.e. Monty Python, Goodies, etc. Who were also undertalented and overvalued. Although, to be fair some of the individual Pythons have had some hilarious moments, and the films in general were excellent, but the original TV series were dire. The Goodies were unmitigated shite and no number of midlife crisis ridden forty somethings claiming otherwise will convince me otherwise. > >Patrick > Z NP Borknagar - The Archaic Course ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER c/o Shamrock Multimedia,PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From mnspbm at MANAGEMENT.BATH.AC.UK Sat Oct 24 13:01:52 1998 From: mnspbm at MANAGEMENT.BATH.AC.UK (Paul Mitchell) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:01:52 +0100 Subject: OFF: Humourless:Was Donnington Question Message-ID: Please.......speak your mind.....don't hold back on account of us!! So what *does* make you laugh? > -----Original Message----- > From: zeitgeist-scot [SMTP:xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM] > Sent: 24 October 1998 17:42 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: OFF: Humourless:Was Donnington Question > > At 02:02 25/10/1998 +1000, you wrote: > >> And nothing can convince me that the Comedy Strip were anything but > >> unfunny, middle class, university graduates who should never been > allowed > >> in front of a camera. It may have been funny in front of 100 other > >> undergraduates, but please! > > > >Are you saying you didn't like:- > >Comic Strip Presents > >The Young Ones > > Puerile and juvenile > > > >Bottom > > Sporadically amusing toilet humour > > > >Absolutely Fabulous????? > > Complete and utter tripe. In jokes for overpaid, undertalented luvvies. > > > >Were they any different from the Oxbridge Footlights crowd when they > >started out?, i.e. Monty Python, Goodies, etc. > > Who were also undertalented and overvalued. Although, to be fair some of > the individual Pythons have had some hilarious moments, and the films in > general were excellent, but the original TV series were dire. The Goodies > were unmitigated shite and no number of midlife crisis ridden forty > somethings claiming otherwise will convince me otherwise. > > > >Patrick > > > > Z > NP Borknagar - The Archaic Course > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER > c/o Shamrock Multimedia,PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK > e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com > http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Oct 24 13:07:56 1998 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 01:07:56 +0800 Subject: OFF: Humourless:Was Donnington Question In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19981024174159.007ace10@pop.dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: > At 02:02 25/10/1998 +1000, you wrote: > >> And nothing can convince me that the Comedy Strip were anything but > >> unfunny, middle class, university graduates who should never > been allowed > >> in front of a camera. It may have been funny in front of 100 other > >> undergraduates, but please! > > > >Are you saying you didn't like:- > >Comic Strip Presents > >The Young Ones > > Puerile and juvenile > > > >Bottom > > Sporadically amusing toilet humour > > > >Absolutely Fabulous????? > > Complete and utter tripe. In jokes for overpaid, undertalented luvvies. > > > >Were they any different from the Oxbridge Footlights crowd when they > >started out?, i.e. Monty Python, Goodies, etc. > > Who were also undertalented and overvalued. Although, to be fair some of > the individual Pythons have had some hilarious moments, and the films in > general were excellent, but the original TV series were dire. The Goodies > were unmitigated shite and no number of midlife crisis ridden forty > somethings claiming otherwise will convince me otherwise. > > Some, not all, of the Comic Strips were funny. Samr goes for The Young Ones and Bottom. I hate Absolutely Fabulous, but believe the actresses are talented but wasted. I definately disagree with your views on Monty Python and The Goodies (particularly The Goodies!), and it all makes me wonder what you consider to be good humour? William From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Oct 24 13:45:30 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:45:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: Humourless:Was Donnington Question In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19981024174159.007ace10@pop.dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: In article <3.0.2.32.19981024174159.007ace10 at pop.dial.pipex.com>, zeitgeist-scot writes > >>Absolutely Fabulous????? > >Complete and utter tripe. In jokes for overpaid, undertalented luvvies. >> I am *not* overpaid! -- Jon From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Oct 25 07:12:02 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 12:12:02 +0000 Subject: OFF: Humourless:Was Donnington Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Derek & Clive and pretty much anything original by Peter Cook, Spike Milligans Q, Seinfeld, Larry Sanders (and The Garry Shandling Show), Phil Kay, Bill Hicks, Jerry Sadowitz, Tony Blair, Harry Hill, Mark Thomas, Robin Williams when he was still a cokehead etc. Z At 18:01 24/10/1998 +0100, you wrote: >Please.......speak your mind.....don't hold back on account of us!! > >So what *does* make you laugh? > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: zeitgeist-scot [SMTP:xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM] >> Sent: 24 October 1998 17:42 >> To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >> Subject: Re: OFF: Humourless:Was Donnington Question >> >> At 02:02 25/10/1998 +1000, you wrote: >> >> And nothing can convince me that the Comedy Strip were anything but >> >> unfunny, middle class, university graduates who should never been >> allowed >> >> in front of a camera. It may have been funny in front of 100 other >> >> undergraduates, but please! >> > >> >Are you saying you didn't like:- >> >Comic Strip Presents >> >The Young Ones >> >> Puerile and juvenile >> >> >> >Bottom >> >> Sporadically amusing toilet humour >> >> >> >Absolutely Fabulous????? >> >> Complete and utter tripe. In jokes for overpaid, undertalented luvvies. >> > >> >Were they any different from the Oxbridge Footlights crowd when they >> >started out?, i.e. Monty Python, Goodies, etc. >> >> Who were also undertalented and overvalued. Although, to be fair some of >> the individual Pythons have had some hilarious moments, and the films in >> general were excellent, but the original TV series were dire. The Goodies >> were unmitigated shite and no number of midlife crisis ridden forty >> somethings claiming otherwise will convince me otherwise. >> > >> >Patrick >> > >> >> Z >> NP Borknagar - The Archaic Course >> ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER >> c/o Shamrock Multimedia,PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK >> e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com >> http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER c/o Shamrock Multimedia,PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Oct 25 07:14:37 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 12:14:37 +0000 Subject: OFF: Humourless:Was Donnington Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 18:45 24/10/1998 +0100, you wrote: >In article <3.0.2.32.19981024174159.007ace10 at pop.dial.pipex.com>, >zeitgeist-scot writes >> >>>Absolutely Fabulous????? >> >>Complete and utter tripe. In jokes for overpaid, undertalented luvvies. >>> > >I am *not* overpaid! Thats OK, I've nothing against underpaid, undertalented luvvies:-) Z >-- >Jon > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER c/o Shamrock Multimedia,PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Sun Oct 25 08:41:22 1998 From: s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Patrick Cordiner) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 23:41:22 +1000 Subject: OFF: Humourless:Was Donnington Question Message-ID: zeitgeist-scot wrote on Sunday, October 25, 1998 10:12 PM > Derek & Clive and pretty much anything original by Peter Cook, Spike > Milligans Q, Seinfeld, Larry Sanders (and The Garry Shandling Show), Phil > Kay, Bill Hicks, Jerry Sadowitz, Tony Blair, Harry Hill, Mark Thomas, Robin > Williams when he was still a cokehead etc. Ok, I'd agree with you there, but not Larry Sanders. So it goes without saying that you're a Goon Show and/or Peter Sellers fan? (Or not) I think that all in all that tastes in comedy are similar to tastes in music (i.e. the dreaded question which Hawkwind album is the best springs to mind). Patrick From christmu at EUNET.NO Sun Oct 25 11:16:57 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 17:16:57 +0100 Subject: OFF: Humourless:Was Donnington Question Message-ID: >>The Young Ones >Puerile and juvenile Would we want it any other way? >>Bottom >Sporadically amusing toilet humour Nothing I couldn't outdo myself (on the toilet) >>Absolutely Fabulous????? >Complete and utter tripe. In jokes for overpaid, undertalented luvvies. Time to get a face peel? I agree the Comic Strip stuff is incredibly lame - Bottom is sort of half funny, mediocre at best. Now, Young Ones - the anarchic/surreal undercurrent and offensiveness for its own sake... worked for me, some episodes are outright classics! How can you fail to laugh at some YO episodes..... ("Bambi"?), I always saw these guys as forces inside someone's head!? And as for Absolutely Fabulous... few shows point out the basic folly of mankind as well as that one.... little to do with in-jokes or reference really, other than some sort of context (and what better than the one you point out?) Its the same as seeing Black Adder as only a bunch of historical in-jokes. Christian From johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM Sun Oct 25 13:49:36 1998 From: johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 19:49:36 +0100 Subject: Off: Paris, France? Message-ID: At 19:26 1998-10-19 +0100, Rich wrote: >I was in Paris in May. > >There were a couple of good second hand record shops in the latin >quarter. >Apparently though over the weekends theres a massive flee market with >tonnes of vinyl. >Least thats what it said in the guide book I read. Unfortunately I >wasnt there at a weekend. Can't remember where the market is supposed to >be though. I *might* have been there, and if I *was* there I saw tons of Africa Bambaata & friends. No space rock. I've visited about 15 stores, and saw 3 Hawkwind LP's - Xenon Codex, Acid Daze 2 & 3 - so the vinyl scene of Paris was a disappointment. Stores that looked promising was either closed, or had vinyl area inaccessible due to reconstruction. And it rained all weekend. >Check out the megastore(s) on the champs elysees, they had a cracking >range of stuff. yes, as usual the megastores has plenty of everything - when talking CD's. I bought the new Anthology thing, and a missing incarnation of the "In the Beginning/Masters of the Universe" ripoff. Actually it's entitled "ItB" on the front cover and in the foldout, but "MotU" on all the other places, including cd. Weekend quiz: So what is the title of this item? >At 11:58 1998-10-19 +0100, FoFP wrote: >Can't help but if you spot the French Hassan I Sabha single then please >grab it with all available tentacles. yes, I surely would act like an octopussy - and if I there was another copy, I know which list I would ask first for trading their spare Yuri Gagarins... ;0) but no, I saw no 7" at all. best -joe From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Sun Oct 25 15:21:26 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 15:21:26 -0500 Subject: HW: HawkFairies New CD ? Message-ID: >In message ID <179343.3118064831 at mac006.joh.cam.ac.uk> on 22/10/98, BOC/Hawkwind >Discussion List wrote: > >BDL> Yup. It's a pile of big floppy pants which makes Yuri Gargarin >BDL> look really quite good. I think the sound quality is superior to Yuri by far, but the performance is substandard. A buncha drinks, maybe it would sound like something... > >Aaargh! >Yuri Gagarin has the poorer sound of all; I may have listened to it twice for >10 years, in the contrary the Hawkfairies live is very Icorrect, and has a raw >live sound, just like if you were thereI If I had been there, and it sounded like that, I would have left. Probably. maybe. Nah.. prolly not, but I would definitely have not recorded it. rj From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Oct 25 19:41:31 1998 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 00:41:31 +0000 Subject: OFF: Monster magnet 25..tab In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981019132508.0082a7f0@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Oct 1998, Doug Pearson wrote: > On Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:23:14 -0700, Bryan Young wrote: > > >But I think you're wrong on the 3 song thing. I'd have to check, but > >I'm sure there's at least 5 songs. One of the songs not listed is the > >"Tractor" song that just showed up on the new Powertrip album. > >("driving my tractor on the drug farm...") > > Are you sure you're not thinking of the self-titled mini-album that came > out on the German label Glitterhouse? That one DOES have 5 (all short, > unlike 'TAB...25') songs, including the song "Tractor" that you mention, > which was originally the B-side of their second single, "Murder", on > Caroline's Primo Scree subsidiary (same label that put out the first > version of 'Spine of God' - there are apparently two mixes of that album). > Also on the mini-album were remakes of the first single, "Lizard Johnny" > and "Freak Shop USA" as well as early versions of "Snake Dance" and "Nod > Scene" (that were re-done for 'Spine of God'). My copy of 'Tab.... 25' has five tracks, four of which are listed. They are: "Tab.... ", "25", "Longhair", "Lord 13", and then "Tractor", anonymously. I don't know if there are varinat versions, but that's what I have. Is the early cassette still available anywhere? I would like that a lot, I think... Yours all, Jon /----------------------------------------------------------\ | Jonathan Jarrett Pembroke College | | jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge | | 01223 338100 CB2 1RF | |----------------------------------------------------------| | "Wilhelm Reich died for your sins" (ST37) | \----------------------------------------------------------/ From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Sun Oct 25 19:44:11 1998 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 00:44:11 +0000 Subject: BOC: Toads Place, New Haven CT (10/16) In-Reply-To: <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD010E7343@EMSS05M03.ems.lmco.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Oct 1998, Hall, Russell J wrote: > Play list for the Toad's Place concert was > > Burnin' For You > Cities on Flame > E.T.I. > Harvest Moon > Take Me Away > Bucks Boogie (6:16) > Joan Crawford > Live for Me > Flaming Telepaths > See You in Black > Astrnomy > ME262 > (mini blues jam session - 1 min) > In Thee > Godzilla > Reaper > ---------------------------- > Lips in the Hills > The Red and the Black > They're doing 'Joan Crawford' now? I would have killed to see that in London... Oh well. 'Lips in the Hills' was worth the whole ticket price... Jon /----------------------------------------------------------\ | Jonathan Jarrett Pembroke College | | jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge | | 01223 338100 CB2 1RF | |----------------------------------------------------------| | "Wilhelm Reich died for your sins" (ST37) | \----------------------------------------------------------/ From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sun Oct 25 20:05:51 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 01:05:51 +0000 Subject: OFF: Donnington Question In-Reply-To: <199810241604.CAA01801@bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: At 02:02 25/10/98 +1000, you wrote: >> And nothing can convince me that the Comedy Strip were anything but >> unfunny, middle class, university graduates who should never been allowed >> in front of a camera. It may have been funny in front of 100 other >> undergraduates, but please! > >Are you saying you didn't like:- >Comic Strip Presents For me, about 1 in 3 >The Young Ones Hated it! >Bottom Even worse! >Absolutely Fabulous????? Funny at first, but ran out of jokes... Same with Chef!...the first two series had me biting the carpet, but the last one? ChrisW Free your mind & watch your ass! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sun Oct 25 20:15:36 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 01:15:36 +0000 Subject: OFF: Humourless:Was Donnington Question In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19981025121202.007ab100@pop.dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: At 12:12 25/10/98 +0000, you wrote: >Derek & Clive one joke >and pretty much anything original by Peter Cook, better >Spike Milligans Q, A mix of inspired lunacy & utter tripe >Seinfeld, In jokes, overrated >Larry Sanders (and The Garry Shandling Show), ditto >PhilKay, ? >Bill Hicks, Jerry Sadowitz, Like what I've heard >Tony Blair, Definitely double-edged humour.... >Harry Hill, Hmmmmmmm > Mark Thomas, Robin Williams when he was still a cokehead etc. A double yes. Personally, I reckon I get more laffs out of "I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue" on Radio 4 than any of the above, but I said goodbye to my marbles a long time ago. Honourable mention to Francis Wheen's column in the Guardian! ChrisW My word, I'm feeling VERY opinionated tonight! Free your mind & watch your ass! From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Sun Oct 25 19:15:59 1998 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (Dave Greenhalgh) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 09:15:59 +0900 Subject: OFF: Donnington Question Message-ID: Max Wilcox wrote: > > Howdy All, > > I've always been keen to know weather people actually know anything about > Bad News "performing" at Donnington. Did they actually perform? If so, did > anyone actually see them? Now that would have been a thing to see... > > Max Wilcox Yes they did, I was there to see it, and I'm not sure I wanted to be in all honesty. The joke was funny-ish, but it definitely wasn't sustainable for a whole set. I seem to remember they actually did a good version of something or other at the end of the set, maybe they mimed it! DaveG From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Mon Oct 26 05:13:51 1998 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:13:51 +0000 Subject: HW: HawkFairies New CD ? In-Reply-To: <005101be0055$0b6a7960$3ea48fcc@sprawl> Message-ID: On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, sprawl wrote: > >BDL> Yup. It's a pile of big floppy pants which makes Yuri Gargarin > >BDL> look really quite good. > > I think the sound quality is superior to Yuri by far, but the performance is > substandard. A buncha drinks, maybe it would sound like something... > In the spirit of exploration and research I did listen to this over the weekend and came up with the following thoughts. Nik wasn't singing very well on this. The mix is terrible. The songs don't flow very well. The jams are rather stop start and marred by the mix. The guitar is too high. The addition of a trumpet doesn't improve Brainstorm. Or any other track. It sounds like a pub band doing covers. Badly. It sounds like a covers band doing walk through versions of Hawkwind. And the Hendrix tracks aren't a worthy addition to the CD. > If I had been there, and it sounded like that, I would have left. > Probably. > maybe. > > Nah.. prolly not, but I would definitely have not recorded it. > rj > I agree entirely. If I was in a pub watching them then once I'd had a few drinks I might have enjoyed it, having made allowances for a live sound being crap. However as for releasing it..... Yours humbuggedly M From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Oct 26 05:48:22 1998 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:48:22 +0000 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 22 Oct 1998 to 23 Oct 1998 In-Reply-To: <199810230900.FAA08005@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >1981 >ACDC >Whitesnake >Blue Oyster Cult >Slade >Blackfoot >More He he he, I remember More, saw them in Derby as a support group about three months before Donno', they were pushing a 'new' brand of music which they called "Atomic Rock", the end result of their efforts was to get bombed off stage, deservedly so in my opinion. >and for the Hawkfans out there, how about THIS for an eclectic bill... > >1982 >Status Quo >Gillan >Saxon >Hawkwind >Uriah Heep >Anvil Oh yes, I remember the "Hospitality Tent" backstage (brag brag), there was food layed on, about 500 salami sarnies IIRC, Rick Parfitt ducked and narrowly avoided one of my best throws !!! The food fight was almost more fun than the gig !!! Mark. Sweet memories of days of yore....... > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.demon.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Oct 26 05:55:17 1998 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 10:55:17 +0000 Subject: Bad News at Donnington. In-Reply-To: <199810240900.FAA11910@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >Howdy All, > > I've always been keen to know weather people actually know anything about >Bad News "performing" at Donnington. Did they actually perform? If so, did >anyone actually see them? Now that would have been a thing to see... > >Max Wilcox Ah yes, memory returns, "Bad News" was "The Young Ones" Rik Mayall etc done up to the nines in best 'rocker' gear, they had about a 20 minute set the point of which was to allow Channel 4 (UK tv) to film them for use in comedy show later that year. I now remember the show and the footage, darn me but I never had a video in those pre-technology days, well okay I did, but it was Betamax....... They were bloody funny and actually very damn good at the time. If anybody out there managed to tape the show they were in I'd love a copy ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.demon.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 26 06:05:57 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:05:57 GMT Subject: HW: Help for a paper In-Reply-To: J. Scruton's message of Sat, 24 Oct 1998 12:25:15 -0400 Message-ID: J. Scruton writes: > Hey there Hawkgang, > > Probably opening up a bag of worms, I'm thinking about writing a paper on > the political interpretations of rock groups -- both in the material they > play and > how they are received, etc. Ah well, I may have something for you here. My fave "political" item was this lovely ditty based on the British "Spycatcher" affair. Basically there was an ex MI5 spy called Peter Wright who, in contravention of the Official Secrets Act, wrote a book about secrets and the activity of MI5. He published from Australia and the Thatcher Government proptly banned the book. This, as these things do, gave it excellent promotion and it became the most heavily "smuggled" item into Britain for a while. Even in a nation where half the population don't own a book, the hardcover was sold from barrows in street markets. The book didn't contain anything of great shock value since there can be hardly anyone in the UK who doesn't believe that MI5 spy on opposition leaders, dissidents, and people who don't wear the Right Sort of Tie. It was kinda fun to see The Wicked Old Bat fulminating that Wright, the smugglers, and so on were all way short of Proper Patriotism and probably paid up members of The Enemy Within. P.S: Peter Rabbit is a character from a children's fable. No relation to Roger Rabbit. The SpyCatcher Song ------------------- by Leon Rosselson, Billy Bragg, et al. Now, listen children while I sing this ballad I've just made About a Peter Wright (not rabbit!), a spycatcher by trade I'll sing of how he joined a special gang called MI5 Who guard the nation's secrets so that Liberty may thrive Our young Peter, quick to learn, soon got to know the ropes The trick of picking locks, the art of opening envelopes The other senior officers began their working day By trying to solve the crossword (in the "Times", needless to say) But of all the strange things I'll relate, the strangest one to me Is that this doggerel I'm singing contravenes Subsection Three For Nanny (God Bless Nanny!) thinks it wouldn't do for you To know about the naughty things that grownup people do. SF (Special Facility) was Peter's favourite toy And night and day he played with it, like any little boy For tapping phones and bugging rooms were things he loved the best Five years - says Wright - we bugged and burgled at the State's behest. They bugged the Russian embassy, which wasn't very chic So they bugged the French, the Chinese, the Egyptian and the Greek. They bugged Khruschev's room in Claridges, and listened in with care While K decided on his tie, and how to part his hair. They bugged colonial conferences, then they turned their minds To keeping tabs on militants, and lefties of all kinds Communists and students were the targets of their wiles They burgled CP members homes, and stole the Party's files. And what did it add up to? And what did it avail? All this bugging and burgling and intercepting mail? Did it save us from the Russians? Did it help to keep us free? Did it keep this country green and pleasant? Did it buggery! The trouble was - says Wright - that we often were misled And the Russians always seemed to be a step or two ahead. For whatever MI5 knew, the Russians knew it too, And when we knew they knew they knew we knew they knew we knew. Penkovsky - was he theirs or ours? A triumph or a con? So back and forth and round and round the mazy dance went on. While Peter set up operations Peer Group, Sunshine, Choir And Mole, and Dew (What lovely names!) and saw them all misfire. I fear the worst - says Peter - and this I can't forgive. For years this Secret Service has been leaking like a sieve. The evidence is growing, there is someone placed on high Who is tipping off the Russians - a traitor, and a spy! Is it Mitchell? Is it Hollis? (The outfit's own DG) "Incredible!" I hear you cry, but Wright did not agree. The finger points to Hollis, I'll unmask him if I can. He's ex-public school and Oxford - and I never liked the man. And now this tale grows farcical, but should we laugh or cry? For the CIA man Angleton names Wilson as a spy And Cecil King in '68 decides to lead a coup Against the Wilson government - so strange it *must* be true. And certain shady businessmen ask Peter for the gen To do the dirt on Wilson, keep him out of Number Ten. And a group of senior officers tell Wright of their intent To save us from the clutches of a Labour government. Now I haven't time to tell you of the other dirty tricks Like the plot to bump off Nasser (but that was MI6) And of how the CIA planned in 1965 To open up their sharky mouth and swallow MI5 alive But one more thing I feel that I should bring to your attention For all his pains, poor Peter never got his proper pension. So why not buy his book yourself and do the man some good? So he can die in comfort as ex-spycatchers should. But of all the things I've told you, the strangest thing to me Is that this doggerel I'm singing contravenes Subsection Three For Nanny (God Bless Nanny!) thinks it wouldn't do for you To know about the naughty things that grownup people do. From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Mon Oct 26 08:40:22 1998 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (J. Scruton) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 08:40:22 -0500 Subject: HW: Help for a paper In-Reply-To: <199810261105.LAA20059@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 11:05 AM 10/26/98 GMT, you wrote: >J. Scruton writes: > >> Hey there Hawkgang, >> >> Probably opening up a bag of worms, I'm thinking about writing a paper on >> the political interpretations of rock groups -- both in the material they >> play and >> how they are received, etc. > >Ah well, I may have something for you here. My fave "political" item was >this lovely ditty based on the British "Spycatcher" affair. Basically >there was an ex MI5 spy called Peter Wright who, in contravention of the >Official Secrets Act, wrote a book about secrets and the activity of >MI5. He published from Australia and the Thatcher Government proptly >banned the book. This, as these things do, gave it excellent promotion >and it became the most heavily "smuggled" item into Britain for a while. >Even in a nation where half the population don't own a book, the >hardcover was sold from barrows in street markets. The book didn't >contain anything of great shock value since there can be hardly anyone >in the UK who doesn't believe that MI5 spy on opposition leaders, >dissidents, and people who don't wear the Right Sort of Tie. It was >kinda fun to see The Wicked Old Bat fulminating that Wright, the >smugglers, and so on were all way short of Proper Patriotism and >probably paid up members of The Enemy Within. > > > >P.S: Peter Rabbit is a character from a children's fable. No relation to >Roger Rabbit. > Heheheheh. Nice! I remember when the book came out. Always thought it wasn't wise to ban a book of secrets from being sold in every country but the one it's written about. Seems to defeat the purpose. Good book, too. Bought it for my dad one father's day and read it soon afterward. Thanks! I've got a file on you all (hahahaha), Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon Oct 26 10:57:48 1998 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 23:57:48 +0800 Subject: OFF: Humourless:Was Donnington Question In-Reply-To: <199810251343.XAA14703@bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: > zeitgeist-scot wrote on > Sunday, October 25, 1998 10:12 PM > > Derek & Clive and pretty much anything original by Peter Cook, Spike > > Milligans Q, Seinfeld, Larry Sanders (and The Garry Shandling > Show), Phil > > Kay, Bill Hicks, Jerry Sadowitz, Tony Blair, Harry Hill, Mark Thomas, > Robin > > Williams when he was still a cokehead etc. > > Ok, I'd agree with you there, but not Larry Sanders. So it goes without > saying that you're a Goon Show and/or Peter Sellers fan? > (Or not) > Not Seinfeld either. A few others I know nothing of (living in Australia does tend to cut you off to the rest of the world). Another thing I should say is that the shows you hated, particularly Monty Python and The Goodies, were shows that did lose some steam in their later years, and ended up running past their use-by dates (although the last series of Monty Python (the first without John Cleese) was suprisingly better than most that had gone before it. I think they managed to toghten the sketches to actually make them funnier, unlike previous years when on many occasions it seemed that they were making it up as they went along! William From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon Oct 26 11:08:47 1998 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:08:47 +0800 Subject: OFF: Donnington Question In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981026010551.00800e60@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: > >Are you saying you didn't like:- > >Comic Strip Presents > > For me, about 1 in 3 > Same here > >The Young Ones > > Hated it! > A lot of the humour was repeated each week, so most episodes really just seemed the same. The only ones that I would ever watch again would be Bambi and the one that was a send up of The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe. > >Bottom > > Even worse! > Only seen about 2 or 3 episodes, and one where they went camping I thought was hilarious. Another where they are stuck on the Big Wheel at the fairground was a bit dull. > >Absolutely Fabulous????? > > Funny at first, but ran out of jokes... I never saw or heard any jokes in it, and am still amazed that it is popular? > Same with Chef!...the first two series had me biting the carpet, but the > last one? > The last series has only just begun to screen in Australia, and it's obvious why they left it so long. I find it hard to believe that this is the same show? William From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Oct 26 11:41:23 1998 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:41:23 +0000 Subject: HW/NIK: Opa-Loka In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19981021011003.02e98a2c@pop.eunet.no> Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Oct 1998 christmu at EUNET.NO wrote: > Anyone know where the version of Opa-Loka on the Sonic Attack 2001 comp is > from? Sounds like it could be from the Space Ritual 94 (but not on the SR94 > live CD) and its definetly not the one on Past Or Future. Just working from the personnel the sleeve lists, I figured it must be from that Space Ritual tour, just not the same gigs as the main album was recorded at. Anyone know for sure? I mean, we could mail Tommy Grenas and ask, but that could be more involvement than we need... Jon /----------------------------------------------------------\ | Jonathan Jarrett Pembroke College | | jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge | | 01223 338100 CB2 1RF | |----------------------------------------------------------| | "Wilhelm Reich died for your sins" (ST37) | \----------------------------------------------------------/ From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Oct 26 12:45:26 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:45:26 +0000 Subject: OFF: Humourless:Was Donnington Question In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981026011536.007d7210@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: At 01:15 26/10/1998 +0000, you wrote: >At 12:12 25/10/98 +0000, you wrote: >>PhilKay, >ChrisW >My word, I'm feeling VERY opinionated tonight! > Lunatic Scottish comedian who had one Channel 4 (?) series and has started popping up on cable channel UK play. Live, he can be inspirational or diabolical, as he is one of those comedians who doesn't actually bother preparing anything. And I forgot to mention Craig Ferguson in his Bing Hitler phase, and Mr Don & Mr George. Z ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER c/o Shamrock Multimedia,PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Oct 26 12:47:29 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 17:47:29 +0000 Subject: Bad News at Donnington. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've got both Bad News on tape, but no way of copying them. If you have I would happily lend them. Z At 10:55 26/10/1998 +0000, you wrote: >>Howdy All, >> >> I've always been keen to know weather people actually know >anything about >>Bad News "performing" at Donnington. Did they actually perform? If so, did >>anyone actually see them? Now that would have been a thing to see... >> >>Max Wilcox > >Ah yes, memory returns, "Bad News" was "The Young Ones" Rik >Mayall etc done up to the nines in best 'rocker' gear, they had about a 20 >minute set the point of which was to allow Channel 4 (UK tv) to film >them for use in comedy show later that year. I now remember the >show and the footage, darn me but I never had a video in those >pre-technology days, well okay I did, but it was Betamax....... >They were bloody funny and actually very damn good at the time. > >If anybody out there managed to tape the show they were in I'd >love a copy ? > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Please reply to > > mark at esparto.demon.co.uk > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER c/o Shamrock Multimedia,PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Mon Oct 26 11:51:04 1998 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 03:51:04 +1100 Subject: OFF: Comic Strip et al... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Comedy, by definition is defined by an individuals' taste. Therefore it is impossible to argue about which thing or that is better. For the record, I enjoy "comedy" programs even if they are not funny. Red Dwarf, for example, is not funny all the time, but contains other elements that sustain my enthusiasm for it. Comic strip, I believe are the most thought out, most politically subversive and most enjoyable comedies available nowadays. Seinfeld, Sanders, etc are mimetic and imitative, in my opinion and, though I enjoy the odd episode, I don't think they have much value overall. Apart from the Frogger episode of Seinfeld. Bad News is --> In my opinion <-- the best, and most intelligent satire dealing with the heavy metal genre. Spinal Tap was crap. I identify with the comedy involved. Anyway, that's enough rationalisation for one night. On to some more wine. Max Wilcox From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Mon Oct 26 11:56:02 1998 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 03:56:02 +1100 Subject: Bad News at Donnington. In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19981026174729.007b4220@pop.dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: And there is the CD and the single of Bad News, too. The CD is a masterpiece IMHO. "Drink `Til I Die" is, as far as I am concerned the definitative work on the subject. Similarly, has anyone noticed the simularity with Ade Edmondsons' voice and Mr L. Kilmiester. I know I haven't got the spelling correct. Max Wilcox -----Original Message----- From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU] On Behalf Of zeitgeist-scot Sent: Tuesday, 27 October 1998 3:47 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: Re : Bad News at Donnington. I've got both Bad News on tape, but no way of copying them. If you have I would happily lend them. From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 26 13:30:42 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:30:42 GMT Subject: OFF: London Astoria Gigs In-Reply-To: Jonathan Jarrett's message of Fri, 23 Oct 1998 18:21:27 +0100 Message-ID: Hi Jon Jonathan Jarrett writes: > were playing over here. It _is_ over here, is it? Jon (back fulltime at > last) > Welcome back to the Groves of Academe. Have fun! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK Mon Oct 26 10:38:00 1998 From: edmondsm.brbs at EMS.RAIL.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 15:38:00 GMT Subject: OFF: Humourless:Was D Message-ID: From: Mark Edmonds Date: 1998-10-26 15:38 I'm still trying to work out how this thread went from Donnington to British TV Humour but.... The Young Ones: bloody daft if you ask me. The only time it REALLY made me laugh was the episode where the stage set suddenly got pulled away and they found themselves on some quiz show (or something or other). Basically, I don't think it would stand a single repeat these days. (Someone will no doubt prove me wrong and state that it has been used as programme filler on BBC World...). Ultimately ('cos I still don't know how this thread got there so I don't know what I am adding to), the only ones (IMHO) which have survived the test of time have been the original Beyond the Fringe recordings and Fawlty Towers. Its nice to laugh at things for nostalgic reasons but nearly all the other stuff (including the Legenday Goodies bouncing bomb sequence) will be consigned to post 9PM pub talk for a narrow generation bandwidth when there has been one beer too many. "We need a futile gesture at this time Perkins." From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 26 14:18:10 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:18:10 GMT Subject: HW: Help for a paper In-Reply-To: J. Scruton's message of Sat, 24 Oct 1998 12:25:15 -0400 Message-ID: J. Scruton writes: > Hey there Hawkgang, > > Probably opening up a bag of worms, I'm thinking about writing a paper on > the political interpretations of rock groups -- both in the material they > play and > how they are received, etc. So...obviously Hawkwind falls into that > category of political participants. > > What I need though is to be pointed in webdirections for commentary in the > press to that effect, song lyrics (already got "Urban Guerilla,""Hassan I > Sabah," "Uncle Sam's On Mars" from spirit of the p/age.) and any other > helpful things that might be pointed out about Hawkwind's doings on such a Practically infinite - as no doubt many folk have told you by now - since Hawkwind have always been a 'politically aware' (horrible phrase but I can't think of an alternative just now) unit. I s'pose it could depend on whether you feel you can separate social comment from political comment (if such a thing is possible) which might narrow things down a bit but otherwise you'll really need to look at everything from the first album onwards. If it helps, the Codex (to be found on Sonique's page and others) will list out the albums and tracks in chronological order and I could probably help you out with some lyrics if you haven't already found these elsewhere by now. Probably also worth finding a book of Hawkwind history if you can track one down - there is much to discover in terms of how Hawkwind have presented their music over the years quite apart from their lyrics and to trace the various influences not least the SF genre - which certainly as far as Moorcock is concerned, is often stuffed with political allegory. IMO it is probably during the Bob Calvert era which was when, arguably, the bulk of the songs with direct political reference were composed although both Moorcock and Nik Turner have had plenty to say. enjoy! jill (who is now to be numbered among those favoured multitude who have had a Virgin Experience - this is anyone who has been trapped in a Virgin train on the West coast line going nowhere. Do NOT travel on this route!!!) ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ChStier at AOL.COM Mon Oct 26 16:22:20 1998 From: ChStier at AOL.COM (Chris Stier) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 16:22:20 EST Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet Review From Amazon.com Message-ID: Gotta love this Monster Magnet review of the 'Space Lord' single from the Amazon.com website...! :-) A music fan from Chicago , September 14, 1998 Bleehhhhhh Theres only 2 words for this CD the worst. Horrible Singing. Horrible Lyrics. This CD is not worth a penny! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Mon Oct 26 19:17:58 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:17:58 +0000 Subject: OFF: Humourless:Was D In-Reply-To: <5020@ems.rail.co.uk> Message-ID: At 15:38 26/10/98 GMT, you wrote: >From: Mark Edmonds >Date: 1998-10-26 15:38 > >I'm still trying to work out how this thread went from Donnington to British >TV Humour but.... > > >The Young Ones: bloody daft if you ask me. The only time it REALLY made me >laugh was the episode where the stage set suddenly got pulled away and they >found themselves on some quiz show (or something or other). Basically, I >don't think it would stand a single repeat these days. (Someone will no >doubt prove me wrong and state that it has been used as programme filler on >BBC World...). Paramount Comedy on cable actually! ChrisW Free your mind & watch your ass! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Mon Oct 26 19:16:20 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:16:20 +0000 Subject: HW: Help for a paper In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19981026084022.0068fc74@mail1.wizvax.net> Message-ID: At 08:40 26/10/98 -0500, you wrote: >At 11:05 AM 10/26/98 GMT, you wrote: >>J. Scruton writes: >> >>> Hey there Hawkgang, >>--snip--<< >>> how they are received, etc. >> >>Ah well, I may have something for you here. My fave "political" item was >>--snip--<< >>P.S: Peter Rabbit is a character from a children's fable. No relation to >>Roger Rabbit. >> >Heheheheh. Nice! I remember when the book came out. Always thought it >wasn't wise to ban a book of secrets from being sold in every country but >the one it's written about. Seems to defeat the purpose. Good book, too. >Bought it for my dad one father's day and read it soon afterward. >Thanks! > >I've got a file on you all (hahahaha), >Jason I'm pretty sure that somebody somewhere has a file on me; probably saying "Mostly harmless" (? Douglas Adams) or something like that; and even more sure about my (soon to be ex-)wife... If I make it to the Astoria (depends on Sunday dad duties) any body else who's there should ask me about the "Leon Brittan" affair.... Mysteriously yours, ChrisW Free your mind & watch your ass! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Mon Oct 26 19:08:10 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 00:08:10 +0000 Subject: Off: Curly's Airships Message-ID: This is a musical project that some of you may be interested in. Chris Judge Smith has been working on an album telling tales of the airship era in conjunction with various Van der Graaf Generator connected people and others. > >Web Site: http://www.enduser.co.uk/curly/ > I'v just received the latest bulletin, and like so many such things, it's running behind schedule, but it looks like it will get finished before too long. If anybody wants a copy of the bulletin, mail me off-list, and I'll forward it. Cheers, ChrisW P.S. If anybody has a good tape of R.E.M.'s Radio 1 concert from Sunday night, I'd love a copy: I was driving at the time, and unable to do one for myself. N.P. The Cure - Paris Free your mind & watch your ass! From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Mon Oct 26 22:30:11 1998 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 03:30:11 +0000 Subject: OFF: Humourless:Was Donnington Question In-Reply-To: <199810251343.XAA14703@bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: On Sun, 25 Oct 1998, Patrick Cordiner wrote: > Ok, I'd agree with you there, but not Larry Sanders. So it goes without > saying that you're a Goon Show and/or Peter Sellers fan? > (Or not) > > I think that all in all that tastes in comedy are similar to tastes in > music (i.e. the dreaded question which Hawkwind album is the best springs > to mind). I still can't believe there are people who think it's _not_ 'Space Ritual'... But then I'm a massive Goon Show fan so who am I to comment? Jon (getting his tastes, and possibly his mailing lists confused... ) /----------------------------------------------------------\ | Jonathan Jarrett Pembroke College | | jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge | | 01223 338100 CB2 1RF | |----------------------------------------------------------| | "Wilhelm Reich died for your sins" (ST37) | \----------------------------------------------------------/ From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Tue Oct 27 00:14:49 1998 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 23:14:49 -0600 Subject: BOC: Stock-Forest Group L.P. Message-ID: A few days ago I received in the mail the Stalk-Forest Group St. Cecilia L.P. This is the album they recorded for Elektra after Les Braunstein left Soft White Underbelly if im not mistaken, and since this album was never released it must be a bootleg, that and the fact that you can't find any trace of a record company or the name of the company that printed it anywhere. The album jacket is white with the words "Stock-Forest" and underneath that "Group" indented into the album with a pattern of little silver squares that reflect different colors, There is also two Silo wets of Dragons on either side of the word Group indented with the same silver squared pattern. On the bottom of the L.P. is the words "St. Cecilia", and under that is "The California Album". on the back the songs are listed as follows; Side A Side B 1 Gil Blanco County 3:46 1 St. Cecilia 6:55 2 Ragamuffin' Dumplin 5:22 2 Donovan's Monkey 3:41 3 Bonomo's Turkish Taffy 2:14 3 I'm On The Lamb, But I Ain't No Sheep 2:50 4 Arthur Comics 3:14 4 A Fact About Sneakers 7:45 5 Curse Of The Hidden Mirrors 3:22 6 What is Quicksand 3:25 The overall sound quality of this album is very good, except on the second side there is a bit of a hiss, becoming more distinct on Donovan's Monkey, having an Equalizer helps. There's a chord progression on "A Fact About Sneakers" resembling "Screams", funny considering Joe wasn't even in SFG. The labels on the album, both side A and B, are white with no lettering at all. On the back of the album jacket it has the band list, reading; Buck Dharma-Lead Guitar and Vocals Jesse Python-Lead Vocals and Guitar La Vern-Keyboards & Guitar Prince Omega-Drums Andy Winters-Bass Produced by Sandy Pearlman. "I'm On The Lamb. . ." is different, the mix has a Piano part, there is a cool break in the intro and again at the first "you kill you maim", the Solo is quite a bit different, no "ride my two huskies", there is an extra lyric between the "It's all right"'s on the second and third verse it's very hard to distinguish but I think it's something like "my lovely baby", but I am not sure, and it doesn't have the ending riff that inspired "The Red And The Black". I actually like this version better, and the Piano part sounds really cool, it's in the background, the closest comparison would be the Piano on "Stairway to the Stars". This would probably be one of the coolest thing I have in my collection, I have never heard a SFG song before I got this album, and this album is GREAT, it should of been released 28 years ago, I think it would fit nicely in the BOC music collection. I don't have any info about who bootlegged it at when. I don't think it's been around for that long because I have never heard anything about it before, there was a small thread about this album on BOC-L and somebody said that there might be only 500 printed, I really don't know any more than that, later. Laj. From pookadad at DELTANET.COM Tue Oct 27 05:04:41 1998 From: pookadad at DELTANET.COM (Michael Karschner) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 02:04:41 -0800 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet Review From Amazon.com Message-ID: I think MM's "Powertrip" is a very good CD! In fact, I'd like to see what BOC would do with a couple of their songs ("See you in Hell" & "Baby Gotterdammerung"). -- Mike Chris Stier wrote: > Gotta love this Monster Magnet review of the 'Space Lord' single from the > Amazon.com website...! :-) > > A music fan from Chicago , September 14, 1998 > Bleehhhhhh > Theres only 2 words for this CD the worst. Horrible Singing. Horrible > Lyrics. This CD is not worth a penny! From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Tue Oct 27 04:26:33 1998 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (Scott Heller) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:26:33 +0200 Subject: HW:Under the Sun Message-ID: Hej, I just got a tape of a band called Under the Sun. they are a UK band from 1980. They are highly influenced by Clavert era HW and even have a song that sounds a lot like High Rise.. Anyone know anything about what happened to these guys? Did they ever play with HW? Scott ObCs- Clark Hutchinson- Retribution (free to be stoned) From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Tue Oct 27 05:41:10 1998 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (LN1GJT) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 10:41:10 +0000 Subject: HW:Under the Sun In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Scott, Sorry, I do vaguely recall them from 1980ish, but don't know anything else about them! Having said that, "Under the Sun" from "Black Sabbath - Vol 3" is my favourite Sabbath track - the end riff is sort of reminiscent of "Lord of Light" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Guy Thomas >Hej, > > I just got a tape of a band called Under the Sun. they are a UK >band from 1980. They are highly influenced by Clavert era HW and even have >a song that sounds a lot like High Rise.. Anyone know anything about what >happened to these guys? Did they ever play with HW? > >Scott > >ObCs- Clark Hutchinson- Retribution (free to be stoned) From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Tue Oct 27 09:59:48 1998 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (J. Scruton) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:59:48 -0500 Subject: BOC: Stock-Forest Group L.P. In-Reply-To: <363556C9.EE56A920@dlcwest.com> Message-ID: > Side A Side B > 1 Gil Blanco County 3:46 1 St. Cecilia 6:55 > 2 Ragamuffin' Dumplin 5:22 2 Donovan's Monkey 3:41 > 3 Bonomo's Turkish Taffy 2:14 3 I'm On The Lamb, But I >Ain't No Sheep 2:50 > 4 Arthur Comics 3:14 4 A Fact About Sneakers >7:45 > 5 Curse Of The Hidden Mirrors 3:22 > > >"I'm On The Lamb. . ." is different, the mix has a Piano part, there is >a cool break in the intro and again at the first "you kill you maim", >the Solo is quite a bit different, no "ride my two huskies", there is an >extra lyric between the "It's all right"'s on the second and third verse >it's very hard to distinguish but I think it's something like "my lovely >baby", but I am not sure, and it doesn't have the ending riff that Could be "my lovely belle punice"? Imagine my suprise when I tell you you can't see but you want to anyway, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Oct 27 15:02:53 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (zeitgeist-scot) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:02:53 +0000 Subject: Metallica confirmed tracklisting Message-ID: According to the press release is; METALLICA has set the tracks for their upcoming "Garage Inc." double disc set. Containing songs both released and unreleased, it contains the following covers: Disc 1: Free Speech for the Dumb (Discharge), It's Electric (Diamond Head), Sabbra Cadabra (Black Sabbath), Turn the Page (Bob Seger), Die Die My Darling (the Misfits), Loverman (Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds), Mercyful Fate (Mercyful Fate), Astronomy (Blue Oyster Cult), Whiskey in the Jar (Thin Lizzy), Tuesday's Gone (Lynyrd Skynyrd), The More I See (Discharge) Disc 2: Helpless (Diamond Head), The Small Hours (Holocaust), The Wait (Killing Joke), Crash Course in Brain Surgery (Budgie), Last Caress/Green Hell (the Misfits), Am I Evil? (Diamond Head), Blitzkrieg (Blitzkrieg), Breadfan (Budgie), The Prince (Diamond Head), Stone Cold Crazy (Queen), So What (the Anti-Nowhere League), Killing Time (Sweet Savage), Overkill (Motorhead), Damage Case (Motorhead), Stone Dead Forever (Motorhead), Too Late Too Late (Motorhead) I assume the MH stuff is the live rehearsal material they recorded for Lemmys 50th birthday party which I've already got. Z ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER c/o Shamrock Multimedia,PO Box 13499, Edinburgh, EH6 8YL, UK e-mail zeitgeist at zeitgeist-scot.com http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com From adawson at CLARA.NET Tue Oct 27 14:38:20 1998 From: adawson at CLARA.NET (Andrew Dawson) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:38:20 +0000 Subject: HW: Theta Orionis In-Reply-To: <000e01bdff0a$c8aed9e0$8855dacf@Sommers.primenet.com> Message-ID: At 21:57 23/10/98 -0700, you wrote: >>Hi Folks... >> >>Was just wondering if anyone could tell me what sort of sound quality this >>bootleg CD has. >> >>Thanks... >> >>Keith H. (FAA) > >Mostly excellent, although the the live stuff from Cambridge Junction >11/11/93 is comparatively crappy. This baffled me, since there are >definitely much better-sounding tapes of this tour out there....... > >Kevin Sommers > Hi folks, has anyone out there got a copy that plays correctly. Mine appears to be a misspress but I didnt bother buying another copy as it is a bootleg and i assumed that they would all be preessed the same. Anyhow the CD plays correctly up to the end of Terra Mystica (Track 8). Then track 9 listed as Space Sex is actually the full version of track 10 Gimme Shelter. Then track 10 is the last 3 minutes or so of Gimme Shelter. Comments anybody ?. Andy Andrew Dawson adawson at clara.net Into Hawkwind ? Then check out the Worldwide discography. http://home.clara.net/adawson From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Oct 27 19:15:50 1998 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:15:50 -0800 Subject: HW: HawkFairies New CD ? Message-ID: Just gotta add my two cents (everyone's got an opinion, right?) ... I haven't picked up the HawkFairies album because I was rather disappointed with the PinkWind one (as, it seems, was everyone else who chimed in). But despite its faults (which have already been covered here), I feel compelled to point out that I really like Trev Thoms' guitar playing on the album - very Brock-ish IMO - more so than anyone else Nik has had playing guitar for him in recent years. And that's pretty much all I can find to like about it ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Oct 27 19:26:14 1998 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:26:14 -0800 Subject: OFF: Monster magnet 25..tab Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 00:41:31 +0000, Jonathan Jarrett wrote: > My copy of 'Tab.... 25' has five tracks, four of which are listed. >They are: "Tab.... ", "25", "Longhair", "Lord 13", and then "Tractor", >anonymously. My copy (the US release on Caroline) lists the same four tracks, but "Tab...25" is actually a single 25 or 30-minute track. "Longhair" is about 10 minutes long, and "Lord 13" is about 5 minutes. >I don't know if there are varinat versions, but that's what I have. Obviously there are! It was originally released on the German label Glitterhouse. Is that your copy, or are there others that I don't know about? > Is the early cassette still available anywhere? I would like that >a lot, I think... It was never "available" per se; a few promo copies were sent out to fanzines to promote the debut 7", and there were probably a few copies sent out to fans who wrote to them early on (like me :^). I think you can download it in real audio and/or MP3 on one of the various Monster Magnet fan sites. If you can't find it, drop me a line and I can probably help ... (there was also a second demo cassette with early versions of the 'Spine of God' material, but I don't have that one, unfortunately). -Doug ceres at sirius.com P.S. Doug Bates - got your check; your copy of '25...Tab' (the US/Caroline one) goes into the mail this week ... From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Tue Oct 27 20:53:15 1998 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 01:53:15 +0000 Subject: OFF: Monster magnet 25..tab In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981027162614.00825bd0@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Oct 1998, Doug Pearson wrote: > On Mon, 26 Oct 1998 00:41:31 +0000, Jonathan Jarrett > wrote: > > > My copy of 'Tab.... 25' has five tracks, four of which are listed. > >They are: "Tab.... ", "25", "Longhair", "Lord 13", and then "Tractor", > >anonymously. > > My copy (the US release on Caroline) lists the same four tracks, but > "Tab...25" is actually a single 25 or 30-minute track. "Longhair" is about > 10 minutes long, and "Lord 13" is about 5 minutes. 'Tab....' runs for 32 minutes on mine, then '25' (which seems actually to be two different songs played together for no clear reason) goes for about 12, 'Longhair' and 'Lord 13' around five minutes each, likewise 'Tractor'. Mine is also a Caroline copy; perhaps a British print? There was no import sticker on it in HMV (never thought I'd find it in HMV!) Hope that adds to the file, anyway... I'm still not convinced these are different versions. Yours, Jon P. S. Thanks for the tape info though! /----------------------------------------------------------\ | Jonathan Jarrett Pembroke College | | jjarrett at chiark.greenend.org.uk Cambridge | | 01223 338100 CB2 1RF | |----------------------------------------------------------| | "Wilhelm Reich died for your sins" (ST37) | \----------------------------------------------------------/ From johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM Tue Oct 27 23:57:54 1998 From: johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 05:57:54 +0100 Subject: HW: Theta Orionis Message-ID: At 19:38 1998-10-27 +0000, you wrote: >At 21:57 23/10/98 -0700, you wrote: >>>Hi Folks... >>> >>>Was just wondering if anyone could tell me what sort of sound quality this >>>bootleg CD has. >>> >>>Thanks... >>> >>>Keith H. (FAA) >> >>Mostly excellent, although the the live stuff from Cambridge Junction >>11/11/93 is comparatively crappy. This baffled me, since there are >>definitely much better-sounding tapes of this tour out there....... >> >>Kevin Sommers >> > >Hi folks, >has anyone out there got a copy that plays correctly. Mine appears to be a >misspress but I didnt bother buying another copy as it is a bootleg and i >assumed that they would all be preessed the same. Anyhow the CD plays >correctly up to the end of Terra Mystica (Track 8). Then track 9 listed as >Space Sex is actually the full version of track 10 Gimme Shelter. Then >track 10 is the last 3 minutes or so of Gimme Shelter. > >Comments anybody ?. once upon a time I typed this Theta Orionis comment: "CD count 8 (Terra Mystica) is a 'vinyl only' release, and the last two track is the original version from the "Benefit for the Homeless" sessions, added with the second half of the same track - which is repeated instead of bringing us the promised Space Sex 'vinyl only' track." I haven't heard of another version of this boot yet, and still believe there has been made just one and only run of this item. Guess the bootlegger himself was more interested in Sam Fox than 'Space Sex'... -joe >Andy >Andrew Dawson >adawson at clara.net >Into Hawkwind ? >Then check out the Worldwide discography. >http://home.clara.net/adawson From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Oct 28 11:01:13 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 11:01:13 -0500 Subject: ICU: Little Black Egg Message-ID: Does anyone know if the audio track of 'Little Black Egg' that was used on the video appears anywhere else? I have the ICU CD-ROM, and while it has two versions of the song (off 'Blood & Bone' and 'Ersatz') I like the one on the video better.... trouble is, my CD-ROM is messed up somehow, of the entire CD the one thing that won't play in its entirety is the video of 'Little Black Egg', it sometimes makes it through but never without pausing, and usually freezes up about halfway through. (attempting to copy the .avi fails about halfway through, too)... (there do not appear to be any scratches on the CD, anyone else have this problem?) ============================================ It's the Nexus of the crisis and the Origin of Storms... -"Astronomy" by Blue ?yster Cult -AAA From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Oct 28 19:50:05 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 00:50:05 +0000 Subject: OFF: Monster magnet: Space Lord Music In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19981027162614.00825bd0@pop.sirius.com> Message-ID: Thought some of you might like o know, the current issue of "Guitar" (U.S.) has music & lyrics for "Space Lord" Cheers ChrisW Free your mind & watch your ass! From des at SUPERLINK.NET Thu Oct 29 01:05:57 1998 From: des at SUPERLINK.NET (E F) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 01:05:57 -0500 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet show at Roseland, NYC Message-ID: Just got back from the MM / Rob Zombie show in NYC. An incredibly fun and well done show! They worked uup the crowd well. I was very surprised at the great response 'Dopes to Infinity' got. This is the first time I've seen MM live and I was very impressed with them. I like it when bands can reproduce the vision that creates the album live on stage. Got to go to the 'meet and greet' between acts and spoke to the bass player and Dave for a quick bit. Rob Zombie was amazing. Great set, great performance, great stage!! I'm still smiling. --Eric -- Words to live by from my cat: -If I had two dead mice, I'd give you one. From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Thu Oct 29 02:24:05 1998 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 01:24:05 -0600 Subject: BOC: Stock-Forest Group L.P. Message-ID: J. Scruton wrote: > > Side A Side B > > 1 Gil Blanco County 3:46 1 St. Cecilia 6:55 > > 2 Ragamuffin' Dumplin 5:22 2 Donovan's Monkey 3:41 > > 3 Bonomo's Turkish Taffy 2:14 3 I'm On The Lamb, But I > >Ain't No Sheep 2:50 > > 4 Arthur Comics 3:14 4 A Fact About Sneakers > >7:45 > > 5 Curse Of The Hidden Mirrors 3:22 > > > > > >"I'm On The Lamb. . ." is different, the mix has a Piano part, there is > >a cool break in the intro and again at the first "you kill you maim", > >the Solo is quite a bit different, no "ride my two huskies", there is an > >extra lyric between the "It's all right"'s on the second and third verse > >it's very hard to distinguish but I think it's something like "my lovely > >baby", but I am not sure, and it doesn't have the ending riff that > Could be "my lovely belle punice"? > > Imagine my suprise when I tell you you can't see but you want to anyway, > Jason > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." > -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ No, it's not "my lovely Belle Punice", it's right before the "it's all right" that's right before the "my lovely Belle Punice", if that makes sense, and it doesn't appear on the BOC S/T. Laj. From erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM Thu Oct 29 02:40:56 1998 From: erebus7 at DLCWEST.COM (Laj Waldner) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 01:40:56 -0600 Subject: BOC: Stock-Forest Group L.P. Message-ID: Through a record merchant named Fabio in Brazil, I was contacting one of his friends on info for another BOC item which I can't remember and he told me he traded this SFG full length LP to him. I contacted him and bought it, so he probably doesn't have another one. There was also a place offering it for $38 but I can't remember the URL, maybe CultJacket knows after posting the price in his message on the BOC news group. $38 sounds like a lot for a record yes, and I paid more for mine, I probably paid WAY to much, but what the hell, I paid more for a couple BOC Radio Broadcast records, I need help. Kototh wrote: > Great Post, > > Can you let me know where you got this from? Any Chance another copy might be > avaible? Any chance you want to see your copy? (Ha, Ha...but it never hurts > to ask). > > Thanks in advance for your relpy. > > Greg > kototh at flash.net > From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 29 13:50:14 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:50:14 GMT Subject: Bootleg CD removal from Codex proposed Message-ID: To my mind there are now so many bootleg CDs coming out from fans own CD writers on their home computers in release numbers of 50 or less that they're now simply the equivalent (and in many cases are merely CD prints of) the live tapes that also do the rounds. The original purpose of the Codex was to enable fans to discover which versions of which tracks appeared on the many official, semi-official albums, singles and EP's by Hawkwind. It seems to me that whereas the Codex should incorporate items released in numbers of 250 or more, it's becoming pointless to include tracks from Cds off which 5 copies have been made and released to a few friends of the fan who printed them. It's somewhat unlikely that most folks will ever come across many of these CDs and it's beginning to look like numbers of them are heading towards becoming a significant fraction of the official albums and the Codex will simply degenerate into an index of live tapes. What I propose is to remove entries of fan CD's and reduce the Codex to indexing vinyl releases, official releases, and bootleg releases where these appear to be in significant numbers. I've listed the bootlegs below and my proposals for them. If anyone knows that any that I'm thinking of rejecting are (semi)official or have been produced in significant numbers then please let me know. In fact if you know the print run of any of them then please let me know and I'll add a note to the discography (discretion assured). If any of you have an argument about this or comments to make, then also please let me know. Also: Have I missed any out here? To my thinking the current split would be: In the Codex: ------------- Hawkwind Live at Stonehenge and Watchfield (vinyl boot of Weird 103) The Golden Void (vinyl boot of Glasgow 1982) Solstice at Stonehenge (Yugoslav vinyl boot of Stonehenge 83) Live at St. Albans - (live 79 boot CD released in fair numbers) Kings of Speed, Lords of Light (semiofficial boot CD of German gig) Assassins of Allah (compilation vinyl boot) Dawn of Hawkwind (compilation CD boot) Rock City (CD boot of 93 gig) The Cyberspace Conspiracy (vinyl boot) Out of the Codex: ----------------- Nova Drive (CD boot) Timeless Paens From The Ongoing Rituals of Space (CD boot) The Secret Tepee (CD boot) Corridor of Flame (CD boot) The A Files (CD boot) Hawkwind Live at the Kinetic Playground (CD boot) Atomhenge 76 (CD boot) A Quark Night in Paris (CD boot) Undecided --------- Damnation Alley (Minneapolis 89 CD boot) Theta Orionis (CD boot) From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Oct 29 13:59:35 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 13:59:35 -0500 Subject: Bootleg CD removal from Codex proposed In-Reply-To: <199810291850.SAA06929@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, M Holmes wrote: => What I propose is to remove entries of fan CD's and reduce the Codex to => indexing vinyl releases, official releases, and bootleg releases where => these appear to be in significant numbers. I agree! => Also: Have I missed any out here? I couldn't spot _Orgasmatron_ in the lists. I propose it for the "to remain in the codex" list. Cheers, Paul. NP: The Bevis Frond, _Inner Marshland_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Oct 29 14:26:43 1998 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:26:43 -0800 Subject: OFF: HIGH RISE Message-ID: ... sorry to yell, but my ears are still ringing from last night! High Rise, from Tokyo, played an incinderary ultra-blanga rock blowout in San Francisco last night. Ultra-fuzzed bass, thoroughly over-the-top guitar leads (Ron Asheton on bad speed?), pummeling rhythms ... you get the idea. They're only playing five shows in the US (San Jose tonight, then Chicago, New York, and Philadelphia), and this is the first time they've been in the country (after releasing at least four studio albums, one live album, and dozens of cassettes in Japan for the last 10 years or so). If you can check 'em out, I'd highly recommend it ... -Doug ceres at sirius.com From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Oct 29 14:21:23 1998 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:21:23 -0800 Subject: BOC: Stock-Forest Group L.P. Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 01:40:56 -0600, Laj Waldner wrote: >Through a record merchant named Fabio in Brazil, I was contacting one of his >friends on info for another BOC item which I can't remember and he told me he >traded this SFG full length LP to him... > >Kototh wrote: >> Great Post, >> Can you let me know where you got this from? Any Chance another copy might be >> avaible? Any chance you want to see your copy? (Ha, Ha...but it never hurts >> to ask). I would *highly* recommend, if you're in the area, to visit record fairs in the NYC/NJ/Philly area, such as the WFMU swap. I can't say so with 100% certainty, but it would be highly likely that one of the dealers in attendance would have a copy (especially the one with the mail-order bride). -Doug ceres at sirius.com From jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK Thu Oct 29 14:43:07 1998 From: jjarrett at CHIARK.GREENEND.ORG.UK (Jonathan Jarrett) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 19:43:07 +0000 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet Review From Amazon.com In-Reply-To: <2dbe7c8d.3634e80c@aol.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Oct 1998, Chris Stier wrote: > Gotta love this Monster Magnet review of the 'Space Lord' single from the > Amazon.com website...! :-) > > A music fan from Chicago , September 14, 1998 > Bleehhhhhh > Theres only 2 words for this CD the worst. Horrible Singing. Horrible > Lyrics. This CD is not worth a penny! I always worry about people who describe themselves as "Music Fans". It seems to need a TM mark... Yours, Jon From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Thu Oct 29 15:38:37 1998 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:38:37 -0500 Subject: HW: SF/Space Rock Halloween party in NE Ohio Message-ID: Hi Folks... Saw this in today's edition of Cleveland Scene Magazine. Sounds fun. Perhaps I'll even go. Keith H. (FAA) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The Phoenix Coffeehouse on Pearl Rd. is hosting a late-night "Interstellar Overdrive" this Saturday, October 31. The science fiction fest/space rock jam will feature a screening of the 1978 production of War of the Worlds, which includes Thin Lizzy's Phil Lynott and the Moody Blues' Justin Hayward. Space rock music by Hawkwind, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Klaatu and others will be spun throughout the night and into the morning. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gort, klaatu barada nikto! (Did I get that right??) From johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM Thu Oct 29 16:26:05 1998 From: johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:26:05 +0100 Subject: Bootleg CD removal from Codex proposed Message-ID: >If any of you have an argument about this or comments to make, then also >please let me know. 100% seconded. CD-R:s has turned into more and more like tapes. I'm a bit sad for the excellent copies in the Nova Drive series though - they deserves better company, but there has to be a clear definition - and this is fair. I had thought about this for myself for a while, and my own definition tend to be CD-R or not CD-R. >Also: Have I missed any out here? in the codex: Live at the Bottom Line, New York, 1978 Space Rock from London (too good to be a boot!) Orgasmatron Theta Orionis Out of the Codex: Damnation Alley Time of the Hawklords (don't know if the last one ever made it into the codex in the first place...) >To my thinking the current split would be: > >In the Codex: >------------- > >Hawkwind Live at Stonehenge and Watchfield (vinyl boot of Weird 103) >The Golden Void (vinyl boot of Glasgow 1982) >Solstice at Stonehenge (Yugoslav vinyl boot of Stonehenge 83) >Live at St. Albans - (live 79 boot CD released in fair numbers) >Kings of Speed, Lords of Light (semiofficial boot CD of German gig) >Assassins of Allah (compilation vinyl boot) >Dawn of Hawkwind (compilation CD boot) >Rock City (CD boot of 93 gig) >The Cyberspace Conspiracy (vinyl boot) > > >Out of the Codex: >----------------- >Nova Drive (CD boot) >Timeless Paens From The Ongoing Rituals of Space (CD boot) >The Secret Tepee (CD boot) >Corridor of Flame (CD boot) >The A Files (CD boot) >Hawkwind Live at the Kinetic Playground (CD boot) >Atomhenge 76 (CD boot) >A Quark Night in Paris (CD boot) > > > > > >Undecided >--------- >Damnation Alley (Minneapolis 89 CD boot) CD-R boot made in 7 copies. out of the codex. >Theta Orionis (CD boot) well spread - has been found in Sweden, Australia, UK and USA. Conventional CD. in the codex. -joe From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Thu Oct 29 17:21:10 1998 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:21:10 -0700 Subject: Bootleg CD removal from Codex proposed Message-ID: >To my mind there are now so many bootleg CDs coming out from fans own CD >writers on their home computers in release numbers of 50 or less that >they're now simply the equivalent (and in many cases are merely CD >prints of) the live tapes that also do the rounds. > >The original purpose of the Codex was to enable fans to discover which >versions of which tracks appeared on the many official, semi-official >albums, singles and EP's by Hawkwind. > >It seems to me that whereas the Codex should incorporate items released >in numbers of 250 or more, it's becoming pointless to include tracks >from Cds off which 5 copies have been made and released to a few friends >of the fan who printed them. It's somewhat unlikely that most folks will >ever come across many of these CDs and it's beginning to look like >numbers of them are heading towards becoming a significant fraction of >the official albums and the Codex will simply degenerate into an index >of live tapes. > >What I propose is to remove entries of fan CD's and reduce the Codex to >indexing vinyl releases, official releases, and bootleg releases where >these appear to be in significant numbers. > >I've listed the bootlegs below and my proposals for them. If anyone >knows that any that I'm thinking of rejecting are (semi)official or have >been produced in significant numbers then please let me know. In fact if >you know the print run of any of them then please let me know and I'll >add a note to the discography (discretion assured). > >If any of you have an argument about this or comments to make, then also >please let me know. > >Also: Have I missed any out here? > > > >To my thinking the current split would be: > >In the Codex: >------------- > >Hawkwind Live at Stonehenge and Watchfield (vinyl boot of Weird 103) >The Golden Void (vinyl boot of Glasgow 1982) >Solstice at Stonehenge (Yugoslav vinyl boot of Stonehenge 83) >Live at St. Albans - (live 79 boot CD released in fair numbers) >Kings of Speed, Lords of Light (semiofficial boot CD of German gig) >Assassins of Allah (compilation vinyl boot) >Dawn of Hawkwind (compilation CD boot) >Rock City (CD boot of 93 gig) >The Cyberspace Conspiracy (vinyl boot) > > >Out of the Codex: >----------------- >Nova Drive (CD boot) >Timeless Paens From The Ongoing Rituals of Space (CD boot) >The Secret Tepee (CD boot) >Corridor of Flame (CD boot) >The A Files (CD boot) >Hawkwind Live at the Kinetic Playground (CD boot) >Atomhenge 76 (CD boot) >A Quark Night in Paris (CD boot) > > > > > >Undecided >--------- >Damnation Alley (Minneapolis 89 CD boot) >Theta Orionis (CD boot) I'm a bit biased, maybe (probably.........OK, definitely!), but I'd have to say I agree. I do think 'Theta Orionis' should be included, but why is 'Damnation Alley' "Undecided"? I had always assumed that was a very small run (~5). Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu http://www.psn.net/~novadrive/ From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu Oct 29 22:11:27 1998 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:11:27 EST Subject: Bootleg CD removal from Codex proposed Message-ID: In a message dated 10/29/98 1:50:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK writes: << Also: Have I missed any out here? To my thinking the current split would be: In the Codex: ------------- Hawkwind Live at Stonehenge and Watchfield (vinyl boot of Weird 103) The Golden Void (vinyl boot of Glasgow 1982) Solstice at Stonehenge (Yugoslav vinyl boot of Stonehenge 83) Live at St. Albans - (live 79 boot CD released in fair numbers) Kings of Speed, Lords of Light (semiofficial boot CD of German gig) Assassins of Allah (compilation vinyl boot) Dawn of Hawkwind (compilation CD boot) Rock City (CD boot of 93 gig) The Cyberspace Conspiracy (vinyl boot) >> orgasmatron & theta orionis spring instantly to mind bob From js3619 at WIZVAX.NET Thu Oct 29 22:53:11 1998 From: js3619 at WIZVAX.NET (J. Scruton) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:53:11 -0500 Subject: OFF: Klaatu (was groovie sci-fi movie) In-Reply-To: <199810292038.PAA16995@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: At 03:38 PM 10/29/98 -0500, you wrote: Space rock music by Hawkwind, Pink Floyd, Genesis, Klaatu and others will be >spun throughout the night and into the morning. What is the list's general take on Klaatu? I had the strange sensation of finding 3 Klaatu LPs when I was in college radio and played the track "Welcome Occupants (of the interplanetary craft)" My spine has never dcringed as much as it did then. Needless to say, I countered it by hitting the cart w/ "Scratching vinyl by needle sound" and blasted I'm so bad baby I dont care... or was it You Better Believe it? could have been both. Anyway, did Klaatu ever get any heavier or more inventive after the first LP (I think the one I played was the first.. it was eponymous after all). lead us to a 1,001 nights, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "It is only beginning with me that the earth knows great politics." -F.Nietzsche, _Ecce Homo_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Oct 30 08:44:28 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 13:44:28 GMT Subject: Bootleg CD removal from Codex proposed In-Reply-To: Johan Edlundh's message of Thu, 29 Oct 1998 22:26:05 +0100 Message-ID: Johan Edlundh writes: > >Also: Have I missed any out here? > > in the codex: > Live at the Bottom Line, New York, 1978 > Space Rock from London (too good to be a boot!) > Orgasmatron > Theta Orionis Fairy Nuff. > Out of the Codex: > Damnation Alley Does anyone know the history of this one? > Time of the Hawklords > (don't know if the last one ever made it into the codex in the first place...) Do you have a tracklist? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Oct 30 09:41:19 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 14:41:19 GMT Subject: Another error on a Hawkwind cover. Message-ID: The latest version of The Hawkwind Anthology which is out on a 2CD by Castle (in a very nice cover and with bonus tracks) has the track "Watchfield Festival" listed thus: Watchfield Festival i. We Do It ii. Brainstorm (intro) However, the first part of the track seems to be You Shouldn't Do That so it's an error unless "We Do It" was supposed to be some sort of proto YSDT. Also, listening to the Brainstorm into at the end of this track,, I've a feeling I've heard it elsewhere. I wonder if it's the same piece that's done as "Elements" on one of the Weird tapes. FoFP From abrevard at SHL.COM Fri Oct 30 09:53:04 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:53:04 -0600 Subject: BOC: KBFH Update? Message-ID: Anybody heard anything new on the proposed KBFH - BOC release? Just saw a new one for Kansas (been a while since I actually stepped into a record store) and a friend tells me April Wine signed on the dotted line for theirs (April Wine? Oh come on!). Seeing as Aerosmith and Black Sabbath have both released double live discs (not to mention Dream Theater and Fates Warning) I'm getting some serious shakes for live BOC. Bet Kiss releases one next year based on their current tour. Anybody know anything it would be appreciated. Ghost in the Ruins Five in the Player - King's X - Tapehead (get this one Theo!) Galactic Cowboys - At the End of the Day (get this one too!) Dr. Butcher - S/T (You probably wouldn't like this one Theo) Steve Morse Band -Coast to Coast Sea Level - Best of Sea Level From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Oct 30 10:05:10 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 15:05:10 GMT Subject: CD-R removal from Codex - Kinetic Playground? Message-ID: Was this just a CD-R also? I agree with Kevin's comments regarding the Nova Drive series but they really weren't made in large numbers. Mike From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri Oct 30 10:26:49 1998 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 23:26:49 +0800 Subject: Bootleg CD removal from Codex proposed In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19981029222112.113726b2@m1.171.telia.com> Message-ID: Hi there I think it's also becoming increasingly difficult to keep up with bootlegs, particularly when some only exist in quantities of a dozen. It might be useful putting in the occasional significant one, those that have hard to find material, such as Terra Mystica and so on, but in today's society it would be very difficult to keep up. Maybe someone else could take care of the bootlegs and maybe devote a web site to it in the same vain as the Pink Floyd ROIO Database web site. William From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri Oct 30 10:43:23 1998 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 23:43:23 +0800 Subject: Klaatu (was groovie sci-fi movie) In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19981029225311.0068f6ec@mail1.wizvax.net> Message-ID: > What is the list's general take on Klaatu? I had the strange sensation of > finding 3 Klaatu LPs when I was in college radio and played the track > "Welcome Occupants (of the interplanetary craft)" My spine has never > dcringed as much as it did then. Needless to say, I countered it > by hitting > the cart w/ "Scratching vinyl by needle sound" and blasted I'm so bad baby > I dont care... or was it You Better Believe it? could have been both. > Anyway, did Klaatu ever get any heavier or more inventive after the first > LP (I think the one I played was the first.. it was eponymous after all). > The first LP was a bit too Beatle-ish. The second album, Hope, ignored trying to sound like the Beatles and was far better. It was an SF concept album, more in the style of the Moody Blues when they did that sort of thing. The third album, Sir Army Suit, was ok but mostly straight forward songs and styles. I saw another album by them in a shop once. I've never seen it or heard anything of it again. William From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Fri Oct 30 06:41:16 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:41:16 +0000 Subject: BOC: NEW? Message-ID: Hey, guys...I know I probably shouldn't be getting too greedy, but in five months, Heaven Forbid will be a whole year old. Does anybody know if the Oyster Boys are working on material for another disc? If I didn't like HF so much, I probably wouldn't even be thinking about it now...but it seems to me that the iron is nice and hot right now...HF was incredibly solid and radio is still spinning the tunes...so I'm assuming that sales were at least halfway decent (Does anybody know for sure?). I just get the feeling that if these guys keep writing now, things can only get better...like now that they've finally gotten over that hump and put out the first one, they can get back into the swing of things. Besides, lots of bands with a lot less talent put out albums every year. So, back to the original question...any new songs being written? Any hints that a follow-up is in the planning stages? -- Nick From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Fri Oct 30 06:41:16 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:41:16 +0000 Subject: BOC: KBFH Update? Message-ID: > Anybody heard anything new on the proposed KBFH - BOC release? Just saw a > new one for Kansas (been a while since I actually stepped into a record > store) and a friend tells me April Wine signed on the dotted line for theirs > (April Wine? Oh come on!). Well, this will probably not end up being news to anybody, but just in case, what the heck...They have both Uriah Heep and Motorhead King Biscuits in stores now. I think the Motorhead one is pretty short, but with a Lemmy interview thrown in. -- Nick From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Oct 30 12:15:45 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 17:15:45 GMT Subject: Bootleg CD removal from Codex proposed In-Reply-To: Kevin Sommers's message of Thu, 29 Oct 1998 15:21:10 -0700 Message-ID: Kevin Sommers writes: > >Undecided > >--------- > >Damnation Alley (Minneapolis 89 CD boot) > >Theta Orionis (CD boot) > > I'm a bit biased, maybe (probably.........OK, definitely!), but I'd have to > say I agree. I do think 'Theta Orionis' should be included, but why is > 'Damnation Alley' "Undecided"? I had always assumed that was a very small > run (~5). Damnation Alley should definitely be out! I'm not convinced that Theta Orionis should stay in either. I agree that this is about the only one I've ever seen available at record fairs but surely it is in exactly the same category as all the other bootlegs and giving this credence in the Codex simply by sure wieght of numbers when we are excluding others of identical type doesn't really seem to justfy its inclusion. I vote against it - if only on grounds of consistency. jill PS: I heard on the news about the fire in Gothenberg. My sympathies to all and anyone involved there. ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Fri Oct 30 12:59:20 1998 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:59:20 -0700 Subject: Bootleg CD removal from Codex proposed Message-ID: >Kevin Sommers writes: > >> >Undecided >> >--------- >> >Damnation Alley (Minneapolis 89 CD boot) >> >Theta Orionis (CD boot) >> >> I'm a bit biased, maybe (probably.........OK, definitely!), but I'd have to >> say I agree. I do think 'Theta Orionis' should be included, but why is >> 'Damnation Alley' "Undecided"? I had always assumed that was a very small >> run (~5). > > >Damnation Alley should definitely be out! >I'm not convinced that Theta Orionis should stay in either. I agree >that this is about the only one I've ever seen available at record fairs >but surely it is in exactly the same category as all the other bootlegs >and giving this credence in the Codex simply by sure wieght of numbers >when we are excluding others of identical type doesn't really seem to >justfy its inclusion. I vote against it - if only on grounds of >consistency. > >jill My thinking on 'Theta Orionis' is that it's a "proper" CD, as opposed to a CD-R; I think that's where the line should be drawn. Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu http://www.psn.net/~novadrive/ From johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM Fri Oct 30 13:05:07 1998 From: johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:05:07 +0100 Subject: Bootleg CD removal from Codex proposed Message-ID: >Damnation Alley should definitely be out! >I'm not convinced that Theta Orionis should stay in either. I agree >that this is about the only one I've ever seen available at record fairs >but surely it is in exactly the same category as all the other bootlegs >and giving this credence in the Codex simply by sure wieght of numbers >when we are excluding others of identical type doesn't really seem to >justfy its inclusion. I vote against it - if only on grounds of >consistency. If your Theta Orionis is a CD-R, there's two versions around. Your version shall be out, and mine shall be in. So it'll end up in anyway - if consistency is something to take care about in this matter. >jill -joe >PS: I heard on the news about the fire in Gothenberg. My sympathies >to all and anyone involved there. The country is in a shock state today. From johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM Fri Oct 30 13:05:09 1998 From: johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:05:09 +0100 Subject: Bootleg CD removal from Codex proposed Message-ID: >> Out of the Codex: >> Damnation Alley > >Does anyone know the history of this one? same German source as the Secret Tepee CD-R. Only 7 copies were made. Recorded at Minneapolis - First Avenue - 1989.10.04 >> Time of the Hawklords >> (don't know if the last one ever made it into the codex in the first place...) > >Do you have a tracklist? Time Of / Death Trap / Micro Man / Spirit of the Age / Urban Guerilla / Steppenwolf / Freefall / Uncle Sam's on Mars / Iron Dream / Who's Gonna Win the War / Flying Doctor / Brainstorm US origin, dated 1996/12, only 5 copies made. Track 1 is the 7" b/w, track 2-9 is the complete Weird 104 - Hawklords Live '78 tape, recorded at Plymouth - Polytechnic - 1978.11.23. Track 10-12 is from unknown dates and venues. >FoFP -joe From johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM Fri Oct 30 13:05:11 1998 From: johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 19:05:11 +0100 Subject: CD-R removal from Codex - Kinetic Playground? Message-ID: At 15:05 1998-10-30 GMT, you wrote: >Was this just a CD-R also? pure CD-R. >I agree with Kevin's comments regarding the Nova Drive series but they >really weren't made in large numbers. it's a pity. we can lie about the numbers made..? >Mike From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Fri Oct 30 21:40:36 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 21:40:36 -0500 Subject: Klaatu (was groovie sci-fi movie) Message-ID: I used to be severely into Klaatu. Sir Army Suit was my favorite. Followed by Hope. There was another, which was VERY pop. Sounded like the Beatles again. I sold it long ago and cannot recall the title. One song made it to local radio, The love of a Woman or something similar. I have this other album by a group called the dreamies which is a VERY LSD-trippy take off of SGT PEPPER. Always thought that might be Klaatu in disguise. >> What is the list's general take on Klaatu? I had the strange sensation of >> finding 3 Klaatu LPs when I was in college radio and played the track >> "Welcome Occupants (of the interplanetary craft)" My spine has never >> dcringed as much as it did then. Needless to say, I countered it >> by hitting >> the cart w/ "Scratching vinyl by needle sound" and blasted I'm so bad baby >> I dont care... or was it You Better Believe it? could have been both. >> Anyway, did Klaatu ever get any heavier or more inventive after the first >> LP (I think the one I played was the first.. it was eponymous after all). >> >The first LP was a bit too Beatle-ish. The second album, Hope, ignored >trying to sound like the Beatles and was far better. It was an SF concept >album, more in the style of the Moody Blues when they did that sort of >thing. >The third album, Sir Army Suit, was ok but mostly straight forward songs and >styles. >I saw another album by them in a shop once. I've never seen it or heard >anything of it again. > >William From Alogilvy at AOL.COM Sat Oct 31 03:16:49 1998 From: Alogilvy at AOL.COM (Al Ogilvy) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 03:16:49 EST Subject: HW:Under the Sun Message-ID: During the late 70's I was involved in the local rock scene in Telford Shropshire . For those of you who dont know Telford is a "New town",which basically means it is an attempt to artificially create a large town by filling in the gaps around old towns and villages with new development.It is aprox.30 miles from Birmingham,the UK's 2nd biggest city,roughly in the middle of the country.Under the Sun were a band from Telford who got lucky and recorded an album at a (more or less) local studio and pressed it independently in small quantities.Most of us saw them as Hawkwind clones at the time ,which is not to put them down ,because they were reasonably competent at what they did compared to most of the rest of us.Several members came from Wellington,and I remember sharing a rehersal with them at a church hall there.One of the guys had a brother who was a Hawkwind roadie at one stage,I believe...(My memories a bit hazy on this,but I dod know that some of them at least were huge HW fans,as most of the rest of us were.) One of the guys played half a flute (Honest!!) Nik turner style , through lots of echo (I have a vague memory of them using a tape loop echo machine with lots of heads on it )...I think his name was andy.Also a guy called Stu Cairns on guitar.I remember doing a gig with them...I think the band we were then involved in was called "Flashpoint",although I;m not sure.The Gig was the one and only time I shared a gig with them,and was at a small hall in Oakengates,to an audience of about 40 kids ....I think it may have been a youth club event.I remember their light show being impressive despite being cobbled together with borrowed slide projectors,and,I seem to recall,a borrowed liquid wheel projector (Mine I think).I remember EVERYONE there thinking " uhmmm...Hawkwind fans are they???"..The slide effects included shots of earth from space,Rockets taking off etc.But they were enjoyable. Lastly,my apologies to the band if My memory is incorrect on anything,but if any of you are out there reading this,or anyone from the late 70's Telford scene,please contact me....It would be great to talk. Hope this has been some use to the originator of this query.(sorry,I;ve lost the details,but please feel free to contact me.) All the best Al. From christmu at EUNET.NO Sat Oct 31 09:02:49 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 15:02:49 +0100 Subject: Bootleg CD removal from Codex proposed Message-ID: I think its a fairly clear issue. Of course "properly" pressed & distributed bootleg CD runs such as "Theta Orionis" or "Kings of Speed, Lords of Light", etc. belong IN the Codex. Little runs of private burned CDR's, despite cover printouts or good sound etc. should be excluded ("Quark Night In Paris", "Nova Drive", "Secret Tepee" etc. etc.) I do feel there should be an exception with CDR's done up by the band(s) themselves in large enough numbers, for instance the HawXtar CDR, or Alan Davey's recent CDR release sold at gigs etc. These two or any others sold from the band could be counted in the Codex, just as the Weird Tapes are, despite being just cassettes.... because its sanctioned and availible to more than a handful of friends or fans. But would the incredible Inner City Unit "The Complete Works 1979-1986" MP3, info & video CDR be included here? But the idea of having an "apocryphal" "DIY CDR Codex" to correspond with a live tape index, and rating the CDRs compared to the sources or other CDRs of the same material (source/mastering/cleaning sound etc) in addition to quality packaging (if one is making something like this why not go all the way?), plus info on how large a run and the CDR origin country, could make for an interesting appendix to the "official" discography. It might also encourage budding "DIY bootleg whippersnappers" to put better work into the production, not just transferring, becoming more "legit" and worthwile to collect, from status of being essentially a normal live tape... because a CDR is a medium with greater potential than an analog tape (plus its essentially a CD/record anyway, if thats a factor anymore) Christian From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sat Oct 31 13:14:32 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 18:14:32 GMT Subject: Codex update Message-ID: I'm proceeding with the removal of CD-Rs from the Codex. I also checked out a hunch and discovered that the section in the middle of the "Watchfield festival" track on the various Anthologies is none other than the "Elements" track on Weird 103. It's sandwiched between You Shouldn't do That and Brainstorm which is presumably how it was at Watchfield '75 (Bernhard?) Dave has clearly added some audience noises, dalek noises and overlaid lyrics when he mixed theWeird tape. I'll amend the Codex acordingly. FoFP