From fiskare at WEBCONCEPT.COM.AU Sat Aug 1 08:25:20 1998 From: fiskare at WEBCONCEPT.COM.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 22:25:20 +1000 Subject: OFF:Dream Three Piece Message-ID: Frank Marino: Guitar Mike Shrieve: Drums Geezer Butler: Bass Troy =========================================== Troy Harris fiskare at webconcept.com.au From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Aug 1 00:07:22 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 00:07:22 -0400 Subject: OFF: Better popular bands?? In-Reply-To: <97D73F2C3D@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 31 Jul 1998, Ted Jackson jr. s2h2 wrote: > And WH rarely played slide before joining ABB! I understand the new > guy, Jack Pearson is a kick-ass slide player too. I haven't seen the > current lineup, but it might be a culture shock: two Strats on stage I saw the ABB just over a year ago (5th July 1997, Blockbuster Pavilion, Charlotte, NC), and left wishing it'd been Haynes and Woody filling the guitar and bass slots instead of Pearson and Burbridge. Not that they were bad, just more restrained. Burbridge, in particular, singularly failed to impress, lacking Woody's amazing fluidity. To be fair, the two new members had only recently joined the ABB as replacement, and so may still have been finding their feet. Things may be entirely different nowadays... Cheers, Paul. obCD: Roy Bookbinder, _Travelin' Man_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sat Aug 1 01:39:45 1998 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 00:39:45 -0500 Subject: BOC: "Theme and Bumper Music" Message-ID: Hi Guys! Don't know if this is old news or not . . . I usually read more of the HW messages rather then the ones with BOC headers . . . but here goes! http://www.artbell.com/bumper.html There's a midi file of "Don't Fear the Reaper" on the Art Bell Web site. http://www.artbell.com/audio/reaperxg.mid Think there might also be a few references to some of those "CDs which question our wits?" ;-) Have fun. Karen From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Aug 1 03:17:22 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 08:17:22 +0100 Subject: OFF: Better popular bands??) Message-ID: Chris Warburton wrote: > At 12:58 31/07/98 -0400, you wrote: > >>MOTORHEAD!!!!! > > > >Snip. > > > >Sad seeing Lemmy relegated to the 2nd stage, they had barely > >30 feet x 50 feet for their entire setup. > As an aside, you all might be interested to know that Fast Eddie, Dave "Treeman" King and Jerry Shirley are currently in a recording studio making a new Fastway album! Zeit -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Aug 1 03:14:59 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 08:14:59 +0100 Subject: OFF:Dream Three Piece Message-ID: Andrew A. Apold wrote: > >Here's a dream three peice from the list dreamer: > > > >Doug Pinnick, Bass, vox (Funk/Rock) > >Al Bouchard, Drums, vox (Rock/Funk) > >**Rik Emmett, guitar, vox (Jazz, Rock, Classical) > > Bolle Gregmar, Bass > John Swartz, Bass > Theo, Bass > Nah, gotta be Grand Funk Railroad when they were a three piece! Zeit ObCD Grand Funk - The Best Of -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Aug 1 04:15:26 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 09:15:26 +0100 Subject: OFF: _Dose_ vinyl In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Last I remember on eMULE, the vinyl was still delayed, but due to pop > out Real Soon Now[tm]. If you get it, let us know what "I Put A Spell > On You" sounds like, won't you? If that's the Screamin' Jay Hawkins number, probably nothing like Marilyn Manson's version :) - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Aug 1 04:43:24 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 09:43:24 +0100 Subject: OFF: Better popular bands?? Message-ID: Ted Jackson jr. s2h2 wrote: > Isn't Woody on Pattern Disruptive also? Ashamed I can't remember, > and I don't have it here in front of me... > ******************************* > Well, here's the credits and we appear to be lacking Woody. Dickey Betts - Guitar, Guitar (Electric), Guitar (Rhythm), Vocals, Producer, Main Performer, John Neel - Harmonica, Piano, Harp, Keyboards, Organ (Hammond), Vocals, Vocals (Background) Warren Haynes - Guitar, Guitar (Electric), Guitar (Rhythm), Guitar (Steel), Vocals, Vocals (Background), Slide Guitar Matt Abts - Drums, Vocals (Background) Jon Mathias - Producer, Engineer David Murphy - Marty Privette - Bass, Vocals (Background) Butch Trucks - Percussion Johnny Neel - Piano, Harp, Organ (Hammond), Vocals, Vocals (Background) Michael Caplan - Producer, Liner Notes Zeit OcDB Rory Gallagher - Tattoo -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sat Aug 1 08:06:18 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 12:06:18 +0000 Subject: OFF: _Dose_ vinyl Message-ID: On fre 31 jul 1998 23.44 -0400 "Paul Mather" wrote: > Ah, but is that the standard limited edition, or the super limited > edition (500 worldwide; numbered; coloured vinyl; signed by band; > includes exclusive art print)? > Last I remember on eMULE, the vinyl was still delayed, but due to pop > out Real Soon Now[tm]. If you get it, let us know what "I Put A Spell > On You" sounds like, won't you? Those *BASTARDS*. I hate it when people do shit like this. I'll never manage to scam one of those--have to settle for a tape I reckon :/ -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM Sat Aug 1 12:31:56 1998 From: beautiful_foot at HOTMAIL.COM (Horse Whisperer) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 09:31:56 PDT Subject: OOF: CDs WHICH QUESTION OUR WITS Message-ID: >From: Stuart A Hamilton >Subject: OOF: CDs WHICH QUESTION OUR WITS > >Wet Willie, Marshall Tucker, Stillwater, Bobby Whitlock, every >permutation of Allman, Charlie Daniels and the sublime Poco >etc etc etc. Funkdoobiest, Fun-da-mental, Ices Cube >& T, House of Pain, Hoodratz, Heavy D, Kool Moe Dee and King >Sun. Rick James, Terence Trent D'Arby, Freak Power, Al Green, The >inspirational Isley Brothers, The Kinsey Report and Mr Albert King. > Poison, Ratt, Motley Crue, Cold Sweat, Bang Tango and >CInderella. Electric Boys. It's Never Gonna Happen To Me > >i strive to uphold my credibility..... Oh good Lord. 10 out of 10 for variety - minus several million for cool. ;> At least you've got no Bucks Fizz in there. Phew. Chris. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Aug 1 15:33:48 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 20:33:48 +0100 Subject: OOF: CDs WHICH QUESTION OUR WITS Message-ID: Miaow! Zeit Horse Whisperer wrote: > >From: Stuart A Hamilton > >Subject: OOF: CDs WHICH QUESTION OUR WITS > > > >Wet Willie, Marshall Tucker, Stillwater, Bobby Whitlock, every > >permutation of Allman, Charlie Daniels and the sublime Poco > >etc etc etc. Funkdoobiest, Fun-da-mental, Ices Cube > >& T, House of Pain, Hoodratz, Heavy D, Kool Moe Dee and King > >Sun. Rick James, Terence Trent D'Arby, Freak Power, Al Green, The > >inspirational Isley Brothers, The Kinsey Report and Mr Albert King. > > Poison, Ratt, Motley Crue, Cold Sweat, Bang Tango and > >CInderella. Electric Boys. It's Never Gonna Happen To Me > > > >i strive to uphold my credibility..... > > Oh good Lord. 10 out of 10 for variety - minus several million for > cool. ;> > At least you've got no Bucks Fizz in there. Phew. > > Chris. > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Aug 1 15:35:50 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 20:35:50 +0100 Subject: OFF: BOC-L TAPE SWAP Message-ID: Ok, there's another couple of listings on the following page, by Chris Allen and Brian Halligan. No peeking, Brian 'cos the tape's heading your way this week. Zeit BOC-L PAGE - http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot/boc-l.html -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Sat Aug 1 17:28:26 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 1998 17:28:26 -0400 Subject: OFF: _Dose_ vinyl In-Reply-To: <97599.3110961978@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Sat, 1 Aug 1998, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > Those *BASTARDS*. I hate it when people do shit like this. > I'll never manage to scam one of those--have to settle for a > tape I reckon :/ Well, I guess the label isn't called EVIL TEEN for nothing, then... ;-) Cheers, Paul. obCD: Jethro Tull, _Aqualung_, DCC Gold reissue e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From fiskare at WEBCONCEPT.COM.AU Sun Aug 2 08:15:37 1998 From: fiskare at WEBCONCEPT.COM.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 22:15:37 +1000 Subject: OOF: CDs WHICH QUESTION OUR WITS Message-ID: Hummmm... Well, I have all of Stryper's albums...... and Ellen Foley and Girlschool Troy At 09:31 1/08/98 PDT, Horse Whisperer wrote: >>From: Stuart A Hamilton >>Subject: OOF: CDs WHICH QUESTION OUR WITS >> >>Wet Willie, Marshall Tucker, Stillwater, Bobby Whitlock, every >>permutation of Allman, Charlie Daniels and the sublime Poco >>etc etc etc. Funkdoobiest, Fun-da-mental, Ices Cube >>& T, House of Pain, Hoodratz, Heavy D, Kool Moe Dee and King >>Sun. Rick James, Terence Trent D'Arby, Freak Power, Al Green, The >>inspirational Isley Brothers, The Kinsey Report and Mr Albert King. >> Poison, Ratt, Motley Crue, Cold Sweat, Bang Tango and >>CInderella. Electric Boys. It's Never Gonna Happen To Me >> >>i strive to uphold my credibility..... > >Oh good Lord. 10 out of 10 for variety - minus several million for >cool. ;> >At least you've got no Bucks Fizz in there. Phew. > >Chris. > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > =========================================== Troy Harris fiskare at webconcept.com.au From christmu at EUNET.NO Sun Aug 2 00:40:55 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 06:40:55 +0200 Subject: OFF: Space Lord mo'fo Message-ID: Someone forwarded this to me from the latest Rolling Stone... should intrigue the hair metal "flush rap down the trap" T-shirt crowd here :) "....then there is Monster magnet's "Space Lord", which bears a remarkable resemblance to the glitzy oeuvre of rap director Hype Williams: shiny suits, dancing girls, homeys. (Mind you , these are hard-rock white dudes from Jersy.) "I've wanted to do a rap video for years," says Magnet's Dave Wyndorf. "Those guys live the rock&Roll lifestyle.Money! Sex! CArs! Lights! Big Explosions! that's Rock, not some whining punk on Prozac." The video starts out deceptively. "Joseph Kahn, the director, said. 'Why don't we trick 'em at first, with one of those horrible R.E.M.-type videos?' " Wyndorf relates."'Where there's an old man and a bi-sezual art student?' " Then up come the lights andout come the fly girls. Says's Wyndorf; "Scarily enough, there's not much diffrence between rap videos and Eighties metal videos." Now all you Y&T fans run out and get Monster Magnet's Powertrip! Christian ObCD: Pat Boone - "In The Metal Mood - No More Mr. Nice Guy" (of course! Stairway To Heaven sounds just like the original to my ears :) From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Aug 2 03:20:55 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 08:20:55 +0100 Subject: OFF: SAD TIDINGS:FRANK FRAZETTA/DANNY JOE BROWN Message-ID: I know there's a few comic/illustration buffs and a few Southern rock fans out there, so here's the bad news. Frank has apparently he's very ill having recently suffered two strokes. And Danny Joe Brown, formerly of Molly Hatchet, has also has a stroke, but is now out of hospital and slowly recovering. -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Aug 2 03:23:37 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 08:23:37 +0100 Subject: OFF: QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE Message-ID: You lucky southerners will be pleased to hear that Queens Of The Stone Age are playing a one-off UK gig at the Garage on Friday 21st August. Tickets are ?7. Box office number is 0171-344-0044. HMV and Tower ticket booths are also selling them. Jammy sods. -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From christmu at EUNET.NO Sun Aug 2 08:53:17 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 14:53:17 +0200 Subject: OFF: CDs WHICH QUESTION OUR WITS In-Reply-To: <199808020900.LAA17492@login-2.eunet.no> Message-ID: Troy writes: >Well, I have all of Stryper's albums...... And you are STILL not SAVED???? >and Girlschool I hapen to think Girlschool were kewl (with or without the Motorhead connection) Now: some of my secret vices - music wise - what I can find on CD: Queen - my fave band when I was a kid, for some reason I didn't like Kiss. Oh well. I had most of their stuff but only Flash Gordon (YAAAY!!) is left which kicks ass and I have it on CD. I have several Queen tapes left but I gave 'em to my mom! Meatloaf - Bat out of Hell (obviously!) Marillion - all the old Fish era albums on CD (but no, I am not getting the remasters!!) - they were great- Siouxie & The Banshees - The Dear Prudence video made me think of unspeakable things when I was 10, so I have a comp with that on- Sisters of Mercy - wohooo! Have all their albums on CD, exept Vision Thing which I still have my old shitty tape dub of. Die Cheerleader - an ep by these pseudo goth-metal chicks, for some reason its still here. (I'm not going on about the Pearl Jam CD and the two first Smashing Pumpkins ones. Unplayed since ca. '94 but they are still here... hmm..) And of course UK indie pop when it was *good* (hey Jon B, defender of britpop!) Namely: Blur - the first two albums, and I sold the Syd Barrett-infused Popscene EP for $30 last year - hahaaaa! Teenage Fanclub - The King had an awesome version of Interstellar Overdrive, Bandwagonesque was a nice pop album. I saw them open for Nirvana once and they kicked far more ass than Nirvana. Had several EPs and the first album, now long gone except for the 6 track digipak of What You Do To Me, which has Maharishi Dug The Scene on it. Quite groovy. others: the first Kingmaker album, the first (psychedelic) Boo Radleys album (and the awesome Lazarus EP - dub infused spacerock indeed), Curve (who in retrospect kinda sucked except the odd song), and, ummm... Suede, I have the Metal Mickey EP, hey at least I never got their albums, and no I never listen to this. And the first Neds Atomic Dustbin which rocked (had the EPs and traded them away, the second album was so bad I gave it away within a month after purchase) Now I've incriminated myself enough, but then again I incriminated myself at the time by also being into Hawkwind??? enjoy- Christian From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Aug 2 04:58:43 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 09:58:43 +0100 Subject: HW: [Fwd: Sound alikes] In-Reply-To: <35C1DD4B.41C948F7@execpc.com> Message-ID: In article <35C1DD4B.41C948F7 at execpc.com>, Karen Kusic writes >> We've all heard Nirvana doing "eighties" Only KJ actually swiped the riff from Eddy Grant and The Equals "Baby Come Back" in the first place. So There. -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Aug 2 05:00:56 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 10:00:56 +0100 Subject: HW: [Fwd: Sound alikes] In-Reply-To: <199807311657.RAA29656@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: KJ and HW aren't that far apart, at all. Blanga + synths, straight up, no ice. Didn't they co-headline Reading or am I blurring 85' +'86 again? -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Aug 2 13:02:19 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 18:02:19 +0100 Subject: OFF: CDs WHICH QUESTION OUR WITS In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19980802145317.02e62b54@pop.eunet.no> Message-ID: In article <3.0.2.32.19980802145317.02e62b54 at pop.eunet.no>, christmu at EUNET.NO writes >And of course UK indie pop when it was *good* (hey Jon B, defender of >britpop!) Never been called that before. It's "hippie twat" usually. I only like the psyche-y bands. I just have a broad definition of psyche, I guess. Of "those types", It was really Verve (who have really had it), Spiritualized (who are God right now), perenial faves Primal Scream, My Bloody Valentine, and the consistant Charlatans. Are The Prodigy brit-pop? There's dozens of "dance" bands I like. and Delakota are OK, but he's my kid bro., so, um, there you go. These days I'm just buying increasingly obscure 60's psyche/punk/garage/fuzz/acid primitive teenage rubbish. my favorites this week those are Kaliedoscope (UK) and the Open Mind -- Jon ObBook - Lost In the Wood.- poor Syd. From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Aug 2 13:26:10 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 18:26:10 +0100 Subject: OFF: BOC-L TAPE Message-ID: OK, there's nine listings on the web at; http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot/boc-l.html Zeit -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From christmu at EUNET.NO Sun Aug 2 20:30:24 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 02:30:24 +0200 Subject: OFF: CDnow busy powertrippin.... Message-ID: Thee *instant* classic Powertrip ...a mere 9.8 bucks at CDnow. Its even a current CDnow favorite right there with Dave Matthews Band (woohoo!). I mean its not like Monster Magnet's drug drenched lyrics or kickass music has been toned down or anything :) Chr. ObCD: Legendary Pink Dots - From Here You'll Watch the World Go By From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sun Aug 2 20:46:43 1998 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 19:46:43 -0500 Subject: OFF: CDnow busy powertrippin.... Message-ID: christmu at EUNET.NO wrote: > > Thee *instant* classic Powertrip ...a mere 9.8 bucks at CDnow. Its even a > current CDnow favorite right there with Dave Matthews Band (woohoo!). I > mean its not like Monster Magnet's drug drenched lyrics or kickass music > has been toned down or anything :) > > Chr. > > ObCD: Legendary Pink Dots - From Here You'll Watch the World Go By Great news about Powertrip! *And,* CDnow is also having their great $10 off any purchase over $19.99 sale as well. It's running through August 4th. Here's the link: http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/redirect/leaf=from=bed:y:pcw:html:s+10 *Should* be a general link to access the sale. Not my personal account link that I've sent out in the past! ;-) Karen From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sun Aug 2 21:07:44 1998 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sun, 2 Aug 1998 20:07:44 -0500 Subject: OFF: surprise from Monster Magnet? Message-ID: Huh? Check out track 11 . . . VA-For The Masses - Tribute To Depeche Mode Discography List $ 16.97 CDnow $11.88 Expected Release Date: August 04, 1998. Track Listing 01. Never Let Me Down Again - Smashing Pumpkins 02. Fly On The Windscreen - God Lives Underwater 03. Enjoy The Silence - Failure 04. World In My Eyes - The Cure 05. Policy Of Truth - Dishwalla 06. Somebody - Veruca Salt 07. Everything Counts - Meat Beat Manifesto 08. Shake The Disease - Hooverphonic 09. Master And Servant - Locust 10. Shame - Self 11. Black Celebration - Monster Magnet 12. Waiting For The Night - Rabbit In The Moon 13. I Feel You - Apollo Four Forty 14. Monument - Gus Gus 15. To Have And To Hold - The Deftones 16. Stripped - Rammstein Genre: General Original Release Date: 1998 No. of Discs: 1 Mono/Stereo: Stereo Studio/Live: Studio Category: Rock/Pop Collections Smashing Pumpkins/Cure/Veruca T/T Depeche Mode Notes FOR THE MASSES is a tribute album to Depeche Mode.Producers include: Ted De Bono, Gary Dobbins, Robert Smith, Jack Dangers, Matt Mahaffey.Engineers include: Palli Borg, C. Hawkes, Paul Corkett, Jeff Moleski, Bobby Dufresne, Jr. From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Aug 3 05:05:54 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 10:05:54 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: So many list favourites in the charts these days! Well, Puff Daddy's _Godzilla_ theme in at number two, Apollo 440's _Lost in Space_ in at four... Jamiroquai's _Godzilla_ song drops to nine... - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Aug 3 07:51:12 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 11:51:12 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: On m?n 3 aug 1998 10.05 +0100 "Andy Gilham" wrote: > So many list favourites in the charts these days! Well, Puff Daddy's > _Godzilla_ theme in at number two, Man, I saw Godzilla the other night and well, it coulda been more lame than it was, I suppose, but at least bits of NYC got twatted, which is always good in my book. But I paused briefly at the end to hear the above, and, hmm well, the Kashmir riff was OK (but we knew that), but er, hm, assuming they didn't suddenly change to another song in the middle of the end credits ... that Puff guy cannot sing to save his sorry ass! I fled the theatre before I had to hear any more :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Mon Aug 3 08:20:51 1998 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 08:20:51 -0400 Subject: OOF: CDs WHICH QUESTION OUR WITS Message-ID: >and Girlschool Oh, forgot about that one. I saw 'em live in Boston back in the mid-80s on their "Play Dirty" tour. I've got a recent King Biscuit Flower Hour CD release of a live show around the same timeframe. Not exactly "thinking man's metal" (as BOC have been called), but what the hell - it's rock and roll... John From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Aug 3 08:27:01 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 13:27:01 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <36321.3111133872@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: > Man, I saw Godzilla the other night and well, it coulda been > more lame than it was, I suppose, but at least bits of NYC got > twatted, which is always good in my book. > But I paused briefly at the end to hear the above, and, hmm > well, the Kashmir riff was OK (but we knew that), but er, hm, > assuming they didn't suddenly change to another song in the middle > of the end credits ... that Puff guy cannot sing to save his > sorry ass! I fled the theatre before I had to hear any more :) > Carl, where ya bin? It's not singing, it's called "rap", and according to the Chambers Dictionary, it's "a rhythmic monologue delivered over a musical background; a type of music consisting of such monologues". Very popular with the young folks, I understand! See _Lost in Space_ instead, and stay for Apollo 440 over the end credits! I forgot to mention the Leo Sayer remix that's appeared in the lower reaches of the forty... wonder if HLL's on it anywhere? - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Aug 3 10:33:53 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 14:33:53 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: On m?n 3 aug 1998 13.27 +0100 "Andy Gilham" wrote: >> ... that Puff guy cannot sing to save his >> sorry ass! I fled the theatre before I had to hear any more :) >> > > Carl, where ya bin? It's not singing, it's called "rap", and according to > the Chambers Dictionary, it's "a rhythmic monologue delivered over a musical > background; a type of music consisting of such monologues". Very popular > with the young folks, I understand! Har har ;) No, what I heard was neither rhythmic, nor monotone. Would have been better if it was. That bit during the Kashmir riff was OK. It was the "singing" during some following quiet section where some no hoper, maybe not the same guy, was conveying something about closing his eyes. And I though _I_ couldn't sing ... -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Aug 3 10:21:03 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 15:21:03 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <446316.3111143633@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: > Har har ;) No, what I heard was neither rhythmic, nor monotone. > Would have been better if it was. That bit during the Kashmir riff > was OK. It was the "singing" during some following quiet section > where some no hoper, maybe not the same guy, was conveying something > about closing his eyes. > And I though _I_ couldn't sing ... Oh, OK, I didn't think there were any vocals but Mr Daddy, but I'll pay attention next time I hear it! I must say I quite like it though... good video! - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From abrevard at SHL.COM Mon Aug 3 10:40:37 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 09:40:37 -0500 Subject: Dream Three Piece Message-ID: >Bolle Gregmar, Bass John Swartz, Bass Theo, Bass John on lead bass is a must... >Al Bouchard: drums Lemmy: bass Martin Barre: guitar This group would rock.... >Frank Marino: Guitar Mike Shrieve: Drums Geezer Butler: Bass Oh yeah Frank was born for 3 pieces... >Nah, gotta be Grand Funk Railroad when they were a three piece! Yeah they could do well as 3 peice but the keys made them bigger... >Turntables I can handle, but as my current flat is about 12ftx20ft, people might be a problem. But a couple of extension cords out the window and it's a street party!! No problem as long as there are two women for each guy on the inside, no place for the women to hide when the inevitable ballad is played ...hehehehehe..... Ghost in the Ruins "...all that and a bag a chips too!" - Johhny Bravo From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Aug 3 12:23:01 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 16:23:01 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: On m?n 3 aug 1998 15.21 +0100 "Andy Gilham" wrote: >> That bit during the Kashmir riff >> was OK. It was the "singing" during some following quiet section >> where some no hoper, maybe not the same guy, was conveying something >> about closing his eyes. >> And I though _I_ couldn't sing ... > > Oh, OK, I didn't think there were any vocals but Mr Daddy, but I'll pay > attention next time I hear it! I must say I quite like it though... good > video! Well, that's why I wondered if they had switched to a different song. But the whole sound is so artifical I couldn't tell if they'd segued to a different artist or whether it was just a different part of the same song! -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Mon Aug 3 11:35:48 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 11:35:48 -0400 Subject: OFF: Bad Review Message-ID: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/a/AP-Pavilion-Death.html I know this is in *slightly* bad taste, but I just couldn't help but wonder what the _real_ reason was behind his actions... Brian ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon Aug 3 11:43:44 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 11:43:44 -0400 Subject: shameless appreciation Message-ID: FYI, Alice Cooper will be at the Mohegan Sun Casino (Conn) Sept 6, 98 From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Aug 3 13:28:26 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 13:28:26 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind = SLACK?? Message-ID: I was just reading the post-X-Day SubGenius site, when I followed a link to a Boston Globe article about X-Day. Imagine my shock (and cosmic horror) when I came across this paragraph... Nearly 20 years of the church's twisted prophetical ramblings will climax tomorrow. July 5, 1998, was named doomsday 18 years ago, when Bob dictated his message to ''sacred scribe'' and cofounder Doug Smith, a.k.a. Reverend Ivan Stang of Garland, ^^^^^^^^^^ Texas. Stang has since compiled Bob's message into books, pamphlets, and a Web page at www.subgenius.com. ''Just like in other religions, it's not so much that we love Bob; it's the idea of everyone else going to hell,'' Stang said. (Source: http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe/globehtml/185/July_5__1998__Apocalypse__nah.htm) This thing is bigger than we all thought... or KILL ME! ;-) Cheers, Paul. obCD-R: Gov't Mule, Ziggy's, Winston-Salem, NC, 10th July, 1997 e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU Mon Aug 3 13:42:50 1998 From: lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU (dave cohen) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 13:42:50 -0400 Subject: Many rare Hawkwind items for sale. In-Reply-To: <199807161520.QAA21935@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> from "M Holmes" at Jul 16, 98 04:20:32 pm Message-ID: a few weeks ago mike holmes sent a list of hawkstuff for sale by Jon Delaney. i sent in a bid for an item and haven't heard back yet. has anyone else dealt with Jon/ gotten a response to a bid? cheers --dave lapis at pobox.upenn.edu From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Mon Aug 3 13:15:04 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 18:15:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <000801bdbeda$03fe7e40$763f63c3@default> Message-ID: Carl & Andy wrote: >> Man, I saw Godzilla the other night and well, it coulda been >> more lame than it was, I suppose, but at least bits of NYC got >> twatted, which is always good in my book. I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it when I took my son after all I'd read here on the list, though I felt sorry for Matthew Broderick: some of the lines he had to deliver....and I thought Jean Reno stole the show! >> But I paused briefly at the end to hear the above, and, hmm >> well, the Kashmir riff was OK (but we knew that), but er, hm, >> assuming they didn't suddenly change to another song in the middle >> of the end credits ... that Puff guy cannot sing to save his >> sorry ass! I fled the theatre before I had to hear any more :) >> > >Carl, where ya bin? It's not singing, it's called "rap", and according to >the Chambers Dictionary, it's "a rhythmic monologue delivered over a musical >background; a type of music consisting of such monologues". Very popular >with the young folks, I understand! See _Lost in Space_ instead, and stay >for Apollo 440 over the end credits! So THAT's who it was - unfortunately my kids were in a hurry to go, but I was enjoying it much more than any other blockbuster "close-out" music I've heard in a long while. It's a better movie too. The Guardian's review mused on whether the fact that it didn't insult your intelligence and had halfway decent dialogue were the reasons why it had (so far) not done well at the box-office?!?!? ChrisW obCD: Bill Frisell/gone, just like a train (This gets better every time I play it!) Free your mind & watch your ass! From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Mon Aug 3 14:22:56 1998 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 20:22:56 +0200 Subject: Many rare Hawkwind items for sale. In-Reply-To: <199808031742.NAA31516@pobox.upenn.edu> Message-ID: At 13:42 03.08.98 -0400, you wrote: >a few weeks ago mike holmes sent a list of hawkstuff >for sale by Jon Delaney. i sent in a bid for an item >and haven't heard back yet. has anyone else dealt with Jon/ >gotten a response to a bid? Yes, me. He sent me his list and the next day I phoned him. But most of the time there is his answeringmachine on the phone btw: the rare and best stuff is sold :-( Bernhard From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Aug 3 15:54:55 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 19:54:55 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: >>See _Lost in Space_ instead, and stay >>for Apollo 440 over the end credits! > > So THAT's who it was - unfortunately my kids were in a hurry to go, but I > was enjoying it much more than any other blockbuster "close-out" music I've > heard in a long while. It's a better movie too. The Guardian's review > mused on whether the fact that it didn't insult your intelligence and had > halfway decent dialogue were the reasons why it had (so far) not done well > at the box-office?!?!? Really? I thought _Lost in Space_ was aggressively unremarkable. So it goes. I'm pinning my hopes on _The Avengers_ now :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 3 17:24:32 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 22:24:32 +0100 Subject: Many rare Hawkwind items for sale. In-Reply-To: dave cohen's message of Mon, 3 Aug 1998 13:42:50 -0400 Message-ID: dave cohen writes: > a few weeks ago mike holmes sent a list of hawkstuff > for sale by Jon Delaney. i sent in a bid for an item > and haven't heard back yet. has anyone else dealt with Jon/ > gotten a response to a bid? Actually, in this instance, Jon Delaney is one of the good guys as far as my own trading with him goes. I've had some excellent stuff from him in the past and always sent as promised - tho' his packaging is not of the highest quality, it must be said. It took me a while to get through to him the other evening but when I finally did (latish at night) I had a very quick chat and he said the phone had never stopped and "it was just like the old days" . I sent a cheque and the item I asked for was waiting for me when I got back from a few days out of Edinburgh. However to judge from the re-used envelope, he's maybe a bit behind with all the posting out? I've never had any reason to doubt him and I'm sure you will get whatever he has said he will send you. Equally I'm sure he won't mind if you phone him to check whether your bid was accepted, especially if you want to chat about Hawkwind Kollecting as well! cheers jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU Mon Aug 3 19:31:38 1998 From: lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU (dave cohen) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 19:31:38 -0400 Subject: Many rare Hawkwind items for sale. In-Reply-To: <199808032124.WAA28739@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> from "J Strobridge" at Aug 3, 98 10:24:32 pm Message-ID: this is almost OT, but i wanted to reply onlist to make sure everything was clear. i haven't been able to get through directly to Jon, a friend in the UK left a message for him, (i was travelling in spain) and i called (only to leave another message). i also mailed him a letter, with IRC....but as i said -- no response. this is not a case where Jon hasn't sent me something we agreed to. thanks for all the responses. i wanted to be absolutely clear that i was not impugning jon in any way, just wondering how he was about getting back to people. i guess the Brothel 7" is gone by now...[sigh] anyone have an extra they'd care to flog?? --good dave bad dave > > dave cohen writes: > > > a few weeks ago mike holmes sent a list of hawkstuff > > for sale by Jon Delaney. i sent in a bid for an item > > and haven't heard back yet. has anyone else dealt with Jon/ > > gotten a response to a bid? > > Actually, in this instance, Jon Delaney is one of the good guys as far > as my own trading with him goes. I've had some excellent stuff from > him in the past and always sent as promised - tho' his packaging is > not of the highest quality, it must be said. It took me a while to > get through to him the other evening but when I finally did (latish > at night) I had a very quick chat and he said the phone had never > stopped and "it was just like the old days" . I sent a cheque and > the item I asked for was waiting for me when I got back from a few > days out of Edinburgh. However to judge from the re-used envelope, > he's maybe a bit behind with all the posting out? > > I've never had any reason to doubt him and I'm sure you will get whatever > he has said he will send you. Equally I'm sure he won't mind if you > phone him to check whether your bid was accepted, especially if you > want to chat about Hawkwind Kollecting as well! > cheers > jill > > =========================================================================== > J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk > ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Aug 3 19:38:26 1998 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 1998 16:38:26 -0700 Subject: PROMO: ST37 CD available in USA Message-ID: Hello all, I apologize for the commercial nature of the message, but with Strange Daze coming up in just a couple weeks (yesyesyes!), I thought I'd mention this, in case anyone wants to hear this before the fest. Europeans should ignore this message, since you ought to be able to get the CD cheaper direct from Italy (or elsewhere on the continent or in the UK). I have copies of the recent ST37 CD, 'Spaceage' (Black Widow, Italy) available for sale (mail order) in the USA ... I don't believe that anyone else (besides the band) has them available in this country. If you caught their set at Strange Daze last year, you already know that ST37 are a great space rock band, and this CD is definitely their best release so far (if you picked up their debut, 'The Invisible College' ... this one is WAY better). It includes covers of "Orgone Accumulator", "Deutsche Nepal" (Amon D??l II), "March of the Chrome Police" (Chrome) and "Vitamin C" (Can), as well as 8 or so originals (some of which were played at Strange Daze last summer). I could gush on (I've been fans of these guys for years), but I'll shut up now; Email me for more information. Thanks, -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Tue Aug 4 06:43:18 1998 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 12:43:18 +0200 Subject: HW: Very rare tour programme Message-ID: Hi folks Received yesterday a coloured photocopy of the rarest HW tourprogramme I know. You can find a b/w picture in Robert Godwins HAWKWIND COLLECTORS GUIDE book. This programme is called: HAWKWIND IN CONCERT. It was released in July 1976. I suppose it was sold at the Barnstaple and Cardiff festivals The outer sleeve is in orange with black letters. The inner pages are in b/w with a large photo from the 1976 lineup (with a child sitting on Simon House shoulder) on the middle page There are no lyrics or special informations. Only lots of words about the forthcomming single (Kerb Crawler) album (Astounding) and book (Time Of The Hawklords). You can also find a short list of albums and singles the band has released. Bernhard From s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Wed Aug 5 00:13:41 1998 From: s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Patrick Cordiner) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 21:13:41 PDT Subject: HW: Hawkwind = SLACK?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >I was just reading the post-X-Day SubGenius site, when I followed a >link >to a Boston Globe article about X-Day. Imagine my shock (and >cosmic >horror) when I came across this paragraph... > > Nearly 20 years of the church's twisted prophetical ramblings > will climax tomorrow. July 5, 1998, was named doomsday 18 > years ago, when Bob dictated his message to ''sacred scribe'' > and cofounder Doug Smith, a.k.a. Reverend Ivan Stang. ^^^^^^^^^^ Seems Hawkwind have cloned themselves. None other than Dave Brock appears in the credits for Tori Amos's `Boy's for Pele' (as tour manager of all things) --+---Patrick From sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU Tue Aug 4 07:33:26 1998 From: sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 21:33:26 +1000 Subject: HW: (Fwd) the hawkwind log Message-ID: Any takers? ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: "The Internet Cafe" To: Subject: the hawkwind log Date sent: Fri, 27 Jun 2098 11:01:47 +0100 i have a copy of The Hawkwind Log as found in IN SEARCH OF SPACE , I also have the fold out sleeve but not unfortunately the record itself .If anyone is interested in it and is prepared to make a reasonable offer the can contact me on TerryB at cafe.uk.com many thanks Terry Brunt -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique / \( o`-, ----- may sonique at mail.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they UIN #14292706 on ICQ /////// : ; --- Fly! From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 4 07:56:46 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 07:56:46 EDT Subject: TBS in Roch. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It's been pretty quiet about Saturday's gig here. Is the gig still on? Who all's going? ******************************* theo "...Power in the hands of fools..." From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Tue Aug 4 08:23:59 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 08:23:59 -0400 Subject: tBS: TBS in Roch. Message-ID: >It's been pretty quiet about Saturday's gig here. Is the gig still >on? Who all's going? Hell yeah! I'm there, Jason S. is going to be there, and I'm going to try to get some people from work to check tBS out (although my musical tastes scare just about everyone I work with...) Brian OBtape> tBS: Berbeti Pan, Portland, OR 7/26/97 (thanks John!) ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- >******************************* > >theo > > >"...Power in the hands of fools..." From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Aug 4 08:40:06 1998 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 08:40:06 -0400 Subject: Dream Three Piece Message-ID: >>Bolle Gregmar, Bass John Swartz, Bass Theo, Bass John on lead bass is a must... LOL. Me-thinks you guys give me WAY too much credit... Besides, I likes the low notes best... Maybe the aforementioned bass trio could work up a rendition of Spinal Tap's classic, "Big Bottom" John From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Aug 4 08:58:07 1998 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 08:58:07 -0400 Subject: tBS: TBS in Roch. Message-ID: Well, as with all tBS gigs in the past 2 years, I won't be there. I'm just gonna have to suck it up one of these days and get out to New York - my grovelling for 2 years for another Boston gig hasn't been fruitful. I need a live tBS fix bad! John OBtape> tBS: Berbeti Pan, Portland, OR 7/26/97 (thanks John!) Listened to the 12/97 gig at the Haunt this morning - thank YOU Brian. (PS: Hope to scan the 5 guitars shot soon - Deb wants to see it) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 4 09:25:46 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 14:25:46 +0100 Subject: Many rare Hawkwind items for sale. In-Reply-To: dave cohen's message of Mon, 3 Aug 1998 13:42:50 -0400 Message-ID: dave cohen writes: > a few weeks ago mike holmes sent a list of hawkstuff > for sale by Jon Delaney. i sent in a bid for an item > and haven't heard back yet. has anyone else dealt with Jon/ > gotten a response to a bid? Jon hasn't generally been known for speed on these things, plus he's out of town quite often. What did you bid for out of curiousity? FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 4 09:30:24 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 14:30:24 +0100 Subject: HW: Very rare tour programme In-Reply-To: Pospiech, Bernhard's message of Tue, 4 Aug 1998 12:43:18 +0200 Message-ID: Pospiech, Bernhard writes: > Hi folks > > Received yesterday a coloured photocopy of the rarest HW tourprogramme I > know. > You can find a b/w picture in Robert Godwins HAWKWIND COLLECTORS GUIDE book. > > This programme is called: HAWKWIND IN CONCERT. It was released in July 1976. > I suppose it was sold at the Barnstaple and Cardiff festivals > > The outer sleeve is in orange with black letters. The inner pages are in b/w > with a large photo from the 1976 lineup (with a child sitting on Simon House > shoulder) on the middle page > > There are no lyrics or special informations. Only lots of words about the > forthcomming single (Kerb Crawler) album (Astounding) and book (Time Of The > Hawklords). > > You can also find a short list of albums and singles the band has released. Well done for nailing that sucka. I've been after that for decades. Where'd you find it anyway? FoFP From Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM Tue Aug 4 09:53:35 1998 From: Bernhard.Pospiech at DSM-GROUP.COM (Pospiech, Bernhard) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 15:53:35 +0200 Subject: HW: Very rare tour programme Message-ID: >>Mike Holmes writes: >Well done for nailing that sucka. I've been after that for decades. Like me >Where'd you find it anyway? It was on Jon Delaneys list!! But I was to late. He gave me the address and phonenumber from the guy who bought it. And I asked this guy to sell it to me for 2 Million UKP. And he said: NO !! But he was so friendly to make a colour photocopy for me. Better than nothing I think Bernhard From abrevard at SHL.COM Tue Aug 4 10:17:49 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 09:17:49 -0500 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: >See _Lost in Space_ instead, and stay >>for Apollo 440 over the end credits! >Really? I thought _Lost in Space_ was aggressively unremarkable. So it goes. I'm pinning my hopes on _The Avengers_ My kids seemed to enjoy Lost in Space. I haven't seen a single movie this summer, personal boycott or just no time, I dunno which. I'm always in another room or just missing stuff on the Avengers. Who's in this one? Not sure I wanna try, most of these retro re-makes, (Lost in Space/Mission Impossible) leave me flat. > > So THAT's who it was - unfortunately my kids were in a hurry to go, but I was enjoying it much more than any other blockbuster "close-out" music I've heard in a long while. It's a better movie too. Heard that Armaggedon is too noisy, 'Zilla too much hooey, Saving Private Ryan too bloody. Think I'll go for the safe eye candy and check out Catherine Zeta-Jones in Zorro. Ghost in the Ruins "...all that and a bag a chips too!" - Johhny Bravo From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Aug 4 11:21:46 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 11:21:46 -0400 Subject: HW: Very rare tour programme In-Reply-To: <6496936D88FFD011B1D800A024CB5C5F1ED94E@VEG12_EXCH> Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Pospiech, Bernhard wrote: > And I asked this guy to sell it to me for 2 Million UKP. And he said: NO !! Hey, if you can afford L2M for a tour programme, you can surely afford to bankroll the Hawkwind BOC-L private gig with your small change... ;-) Cheers, Paul. obCD-R: Gov't Mule, Ziggy's, Winston-Salem, NC, 10th July, 1997 e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "Stand by to stand by" --- Gov't Mule From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 4 11:56:30 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 11:56:30 EDT Subject: OFF: summer films In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: "BREVARD, Adrian R." > > Heard that Armaggedon is too noisy, Better to see Deep Impact. Armageddon's just plain boring, and dialog's embarassingly awful. And to think a whole bunch of good screenwriters worked on the project. Wonder how bad it'd be if they'd used a bunch of hacks? Too bad the producers didn't repeat their strategy from Crimson Tide, and hire Tarantino to punch up the script. Part of Armageddon's script woes have to do with their wish to get a PG13 rating. Bruce Willis can't do his usual expletive ridden improvising, and he looks really wooden for it... 'Zilla too much hooey, Didn't see it, for obvious reasons: Monster looks like a gay TRex from Lost World, and snub of BOC's song... Saving > Private Ryan too bloody. Yeah, leave the kids home for this one. Horrific, realistic wartime violence shockingly portrayed. Reminds me of the violence in Braveheart, albeit moved up a couple hundred years...A great film, that would be even better if Spielberg would ever bother to develop a character. He seems steadfastly against giving any of his characters any motivation. Must've skipped that class at film school ******************************* theo "...Power in the hands of fools..." From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Tue Aug 4 11:30:46 1998 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 17:30:46 +0200 Subject: HW: Very rare tour programme In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Hey, if you can afford L2M for a tour programme, you can surely >afford to bankroll the Hawkwind BOC-L private gig with your small >change... ;-) Har har. Well, I just wanted to test if this programm is really worth to get. And you see: It is ;-)) Bernhard From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Aug 4 13:17:01 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 17:17:01 +0000 Subject: OFF: summer films Message-ID: On tis 4 aug 1998 11.56 +0000 "Ted Jackson jr. s2h2" wrote: >> Heard that Armaggedon is too noisy, > > Better to see Deep Impact. Armageddon's just plain boring, and > dialog's embarassingly awful. Gee, and I heard the problem with DI was you had to sit through ages of people having relationships before the film got down to brass tacks and started obliterating bits of the planet! I was assured Arma was going to avoid the pretense of a plot and stick flashy stuff. But perhaps not? Heck, with a film like this, I'm not there to see people have emotions, I'm there to see the planet get whacked by enormous rocks :) > Didn't see it, for obvious reasons: Monster looks like a gay TRex > from Lost World, and snub of BOC's song... It managed to alter what Godzilla should be without any accompanying improvement. And was very schizophreniac about it. Well, I didn't expect much when I saw it with my student discount, so I wasn't really _disappointed_, per se ... >> Saving >> Private Ryan too bloody. > > Yeah, leave the kids home for this one. Horrific, realistic wartime > violence shockingly portrayed. Reminds me of the violence in > Braveheart, albeit moved up a couple hundred years...A great film, > that would be even better if Spielberg would ever bother to develop a > character. He seems steadfastly against giving any of his characters > any motivation. Must've skipped that class at film school ;) I've heard good things about this, but I'm a WWII hobbyist from way back--particularly on European ground war stuff. Gimme a nice muddy tank over some flashy aeroplane any day :) I've been told they've been pretty accuarate on gear, uniforms, etc., so I'm looking forward to it IMO, the violence in Braveheart was a bit "comic book". Sure, medieval weapons are messy, but sometimes the folks in that film were utilizing them is such ridiculous ways ... the realism was belied by the "heroic" attitude; John Woo goes to medieval Scotland ;) No bad thing in a story, but I'd be surprised if the violence in Private Ryan was portrayed in quite that way :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Aug 4 13:26:38 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 17:26:38 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: On tis 4 aug 1998 09.17 -0500 "BREVARD, Adrian R." wrote: > I'm > always in another room or just missing stuff on the Avengers. Who's in > this one? Not sure I wanna try, most of these retro re-makes, Uma Thurman (as Emma Peel), Ralph Fiennes (as John Steed) and Sean Connery (as a bizarre Scottish villian who controls the weather). Good line-up, anyway. My impression is that it's been done with style and flair, but the proof of the pudding remains to be tested ... -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 4 13:29:48 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 13:29:48 EDT Subject: OFF: summer films[Spolier on Pvt. Ryan--Beware!] In-Reply-To: <1299071.3111239821@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > >> Saving > >> Private Ryan too bloody. > > > > Yeah, leave the kids home for this one. Horrific, realistic wartime > > violence shockingly portrayed. Reminds me of the violence in > > Braveheart, albeit moved up a couple hundred years...A great film, > > that would be even better if Spielberg would ever bother to develop a > > character. He seems steadfastly against giving any of his characters > > any motivation. Must've skipped that class at film school > > ;) I've heard good things about this, but I'm a WWII hobbyist > from way back--particularly on European ground war stuff. Gimme a > nice muddy tank over some flashy aeroplane any day :) I've been > told they've been pretty accuarate on gear, uniforms, etc., so I'm > looking forward to it > Me too! It's pretty realistic, as you might have imagined after the Indy Jones movies. Spielberg obviously has a thing for the machinery of the day. You won't be disappointed. Tanks, Half-tracks, doodle bugs, Hanks carries my all-time fave, the Thompson SMG... > IMO, the violence in Braveheart was a bit "comic book". Sure, > medieval weapons are messy, but sometimes the folks in that film > were utilizing them is such ridiculous ways ... the realism was > belied by the "heroic" attitude; John Woo goes to medieval > Scotland ;) No bad thing in a story, but I'd be surprised if the > violence in Private Ryan was portrayed in quite that way :) Spoiler Alert!!! I'm about to give away some good stuff on Saving Private Ryan!!! Pvt. Ryan is a hundred times bloodier than Braveheart, that was just the only recent flick I could think of that even came close. There's a huge set piece about the Normandy landing that comprises about a half hour of the beginning of the flick. Amazing filmmaking--claustraphobic, deafeningly loud, jerky camera work. And throughout, there's constant blood flying. A horrible scene with a guy picking up his blown-off arm and carrying it away. A scene where Hanks is trying to pull a guy to safety and a shell goes off. Hanks keeps pulling, then looks down to see that the lower half of the guy's body is blown away. Several scenes of guys drowning in the surf, with the water tinged with red. Add to that numerous limbs blowing off, heads oozing brains, a guy with his guts spilling out. Just about any agonizing death and dismemberment you can imagine. Makes Schindler's list look like a Sat. matinee. Very little aircraft footage. Though there's a great scene about a glider unit that crashed. This general insists they put his jeep in the glider, which overloads it and makes it drop like a stone when the cable's released! Don't miss this flick! I'm not even a Spielberg fan, but this one's about as good a war movie as possible [oxymoron!] Spielberg's annoying inability to created characters notwithstanding, the sheer visuale brilliance is enough to sustain it... > Cheers, > Carl > > -- > Carl Edlund Anderson > Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic > St. John's College, University of Cambridge > mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk > http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ > ******************************* theo "...Power in the hands of fools..." From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Tue Aug 4 13:35:15 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 13:35:15 -0400 Subject: HW: HW-ish Message-ID: This observation probably has not gone unnoticed by the veteran HW'ers. However, I was listening to Echoes off Pink Floyd's Meddle and I could not help noticing how similar it sounded like parts of HW's Hall of the Mountain Grill. You may go back to your regularly schedule programs. From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Tue Aug 4 16:04:05 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 21:04:05 +0100 Subject: Dream Three Piece Message-ID: BREVARD, Adrian R. wrote: > >Turntables I can handle, but as my current flat is about 12ftx20ft, people > might be a problem. But a couple of extension cords out the window and > it's a street party!! > > No problem as long as there are two women for each guy on the inside, no > place for the women to hide when the inevitable ballad is played > ...hehehehehe..... > > Tsk, tsk, and this is the 90's as well. I suspect a sexual orientation survey would be required before we start assessing percentage breakdowns. Mind you, if we move it to Leith Links, the teacher training college is right next door! Cold shower time, methinks. Zeit ObCD - Things Of Stone & Wood - The Yearning -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From antisol at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Aug 4 18:46:31 1998 From: antisol at HOTMAIL.COM (The Automind) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 15:46:31 PDT Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: > Really? I thought _Lost in Space_ was aggressively >unremarkable. So it goes. I'm pinning my hopes on _The Avengers_ >now :) I'm not! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From antisol at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Aug 4 19:23:10 1998 From: antisol at HOTMAIL.COM (The Automind) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 16:23:10 PDT Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: > Uma Thurman (as Emma Peel), Ralph Fiennes (as John Steed) >and Sean Connery (as a bizarre Scottish villian who controls the >weather). Good line-up, anyway. My impression is that it's been >done with style and flair, but the proof of the pudding remains >to be tested ... It's difficult to explain, but I'd almost feel like I was being personally insulted if I paid to see that one. From the advertisements it looks like its going to be a poorly constructed throwback to all the 60's detective-spy-caper films (how can you recapture that charming innocence?). There is no doubt that shortly after its release there while be a massive trend where the usual idiots will try to adopt that whole attitude and chique urbane, upperclass fashion look. American pop-culture is so desperate for anything new right now, there's no way this won't happen- unless the film bombs, and I don't think it will (the ads looked very appealing). I envy their ability to humiliate themselves in front of others without embarrasment. If it really catches, Moorcock could start writing new Jerry Cornelius novels! It would be interesting to see what he'd do to satirize the imitation of his original targets. THE AUTOMIND IS NOT AMUSED -----. .----- |____ | | ____| \| |/ . . | |\ /| | | \ / | | \ \____________/ / | \ / | \ / | \____________/ | | | \________/ | _ _ _ _ -- | | -- _ - - -_ _- -- _ _ - - ----- - ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 4 19:54:43 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 00:54:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: The Automind's message of Tue, 4 Aug 1998 16:23:10 PDT Message-ID: The Automind writes: > > If it really catches, Moorcock could start writing new Jerry Cornelius > novels! It would be interesting to see what he'd do to satirize the > imitation of his original targets. Good plan - and I'd love to see a updated film version of Jerry Cornelius with all the cynical view of a character simply getting on and making a success of his life while the rest of the world is falling apart all around. The problem would not be portraying the Cornelius character, who is fairly universal IMO, but the personalities around him - most of these are written more in the form of Charles Dickens' grotesque caricatures and would be difficult to put into a film environment where a more realistic (?believeable) frame of reference is needed. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Tue Aug 4 20:25:40 1998 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:25:40 +1000 Subject: New Moorcock Films (Was - UK Charts) In-Reply-To: <199808042354.AAA20499@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of J Strobridge > Sent: Wednesday, 5 August 1998 9:55 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: OFF: UK Charts > The Automind writes: > > If it really catches, Moorcock could start writing new Jerry Cornelius > > novels! It would be interesting to see what he'd do to satirize the > > imitation of his original targets. Well, there has been a new short story, as well as an appearance in the new comic. Which keeps maniacs like me up do date on what Pierrot is getting up to at present... > Good plan - and I'd love to see a updated film version of Jerry > Cornelius with all the cynical view of a character simply getting > on and making a success of his life while the rest of the world is > falling apart all around. The problem would not be portraying the > Cornelius character, who is fairly universal IMO, but the > personalities around him - most of these are written more in the > form of Charles Dickens' grotesque caricatures and would be > difficult to put into a film environment where a more realistic > (?believeable) frame of reference is needed. Well, I won't make any comment with regards to a hypothetical new Jerry film, but here's two I'd like to see. The Brothel in Rossenstrasse - Directed by Peter Greenaway, Music by the Deep Fix. Gloriana, Or the Unfulfill'd Queen - Directed by Terry Gilliam, Music by the Deep Fix. Mmmmmmmmmmm..... (drool drool) - Max Wilcox PS. While I'm at it, on the Gilliam topic.... OBFilm - Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas (I know *exactly* how it feels - well, almost). From antisol at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Aug 4 22:04:58 1998 From: antisol at HOTMAIL.COM (The Automind) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 19:04:58 PDT Subject: New Moorcock Films (Was - UK Charts) Message-ID: >> > If it really catches, Moorcock could start writing new Jerry >> >Cornelius novels! It would be interesting to see what he'd do to >> >satirize the imitation of his original targets. > > Well, there has been a new short story, as well as an appearance in >the new comic. Which keeps maniacs like me up do date on what Pierrot >is getting up to at present... How recent? I'd like to read it. Is it available anywhere? I'm pretty out of touch with Moorcock's recent stuff. From what I've seen in bookstores it looks like he's just trying to cash in (revisions, compilations, etc.)on the successes of his early S&S/Fantasy novels (the same ones he often admits he's embarrassed to have written). >> Good plan - and I'd love to see a updated film version of Jerry >> Cornelius with all the cynical view of a character simply getting >> on and making a success of his life while the rest of the world is >> falling apart all around. The problem would not be portraying the >> Cornelius character, who is fairly universal IMO, but the >> personalities around him - most of these are written more in the >> form of Charles Dickens' grotesque caricatures and would be >> difficult to put into a film environment where a more realistic >> (?believeable) frame of reference is needed. I wasn't even considering a film, though that could be extraordinary if done right. The other thing that would be hard to portray on film is the constant shifting of reality and disconnection(+repetition) of events. It's not that it couldn't be done, it's just that the only person with the guts to take on the task would be Moorcock himself! > Well, I won't make any comment with regards to a hypothetical >new Jerry film, but here's two I'd like to see. >The Brothel in Rossenstrasse - Directed by Peter Greenaway, Music by >the Deep Fix. I don't know if I've read that... And what IS this Deep Fix? Do/did they actually exist outside of his books and the one album release? > Gloriana, Or the Unfulfill'd Queen - Directed by Terry Gilliam, >Music by the Deep Fix. > Mmmmmmmmmmm..... (drool drool) Terry Gilliam is the only one I'd trust to do that. I wonder if he's a Moorcock fan. stupid Deep Fix. I could also see "Black Corridor" as one of those cheesy in-your-face made-for-TV dealies on the Sci-Fi Channel. :) >OBFilm - Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas (I know *exactly* how it feels - well, >almost). I don't understand how they could have flooded their motel room without the water leaking through the walls and doorway. This ruined the entire film for me. :] ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Aug 4 22:50:50 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 22:50:50 -0400 Subject: New Moorcock Films (Was - UK Charts) Message-ID: >> Well, there has been a new short story, as well as an appearance in >>the new comic. Which keeps maniacs like me up do date on what Pierrot >>is getting up to at present... > >How recent? I'd like to read it. Is it available anywhere? I'm pretty >out of touch with Moorcock's recent stuff. What? You're not reading "Michael Moorcock's Multiverse" comic? One issue to go. Get the other 11 now! Elric! Cornelius! Gaynor the Damned! the second ether made enjoyable! And Moorcock himself! Not to mention an article in the back of one about Moorcock's musical history... -AAA From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Wed Aug 5 03:28:04 1998 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff and Pam Wheaton) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 01:28:04 -0600 Subject: New Moorcock Films (Was - UK Charts) Message-ID: Max Wilcox wrote: > Gloriana, Or the Unfulfill'd Queen - Directed by Terry Gilliam, > Music by the Deep Fix. That was a book I had fun getting into-but once I did -it was neat. Strange, but neat. I've been hanging around "Borders" drooling over the new omnibus editions of MM's work. Oh-I do need more $$$ in my poor wallet: too many new books to read & new music to hear too!Rock on! Pam obcd: Marillion "Reel to Reel" > Mmmmmmmmmmm..... (drool drool) > > - Max Wilcox > > PS. While I'm at it, on the Gilliam topic.... > > OBFilm - Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas (I know *exactly* how it feels - well, > almost). -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton ____/----^----\____ The greatest tool From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Wed Aug 5 00:28:04 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 04:28:04 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: > > Really? I thought _Lost in Space_ was aggressively > >unremarkable. So it goes. I'm pinning my hopes on _The Avengers_ > >now :) > > I'm not! This whole damn trend of remakes and movie versions of old TV series is so completely nowhere it makes me sick every time I hear about another one! It's like the sequel plague of the 1980s -- not a shred of originality to be seen! It's like if a script isn't based on a book, an old movie or a TV series, studios don't wanna know from it. I'll give credit to X-Files...I'm not a fan of the show and I didn't see the movie, but it was a much different concept, and far more relevent than a 90s version of Lost in Space or The Avengers. To my mind, if you're gonna mess with an old spy show, the only way to go is the road Mike Meyers took with Austin Powers. The one that really makes me wanna puke is Nicolas Cage doing a remake of The Courtship of Eddie's Father (yes, it's happening, and it was HIS IDEA!). There's one guy I never thought I'd lose respect for! My one guilty pleasure -- Dragnet with Aykroyd and Hanks. -- Nick From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 5 07:40:22 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 07:40:22 EDT Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <199808050823.EAA16083@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: > From: "" > > > This whole damn trend of remakes and movie versions of old TV series > is so completely nowhere it makes me sick every time I hear about > another one! It's like the sequel plague of the 1980s -- not a shred > of originality to be seen! It's like if a script isn't based on a > book, an old movie or a TV series, studios don't wanna know from it. Took the words right out of my mouth! > I'll give credit to X-Files...I'm not a fan of the show and I didn't > see the movie, but it was a much different concept, and far more Also, it's an expansion of a series that's still active, not some pathetic nostalgia shtick, attempting to tug at the sagging heartstrings of desperate baby boomers... > > The one that really makes me wanna puke is Nicolas Cage doing a > remake of The Courtship of Eddie's Father (yes, it's happening, and > it was HIS IDEA!). There's one guy I never thought I'd lose respect > for! > Are you serious? Wow, Cage USED to be one of my favorites... > My one guilty pleasure -- Dragnet with Aykroyd and Hanks. > But, as you said, this is more a spoof along the lines of Austin Powers... > -- Nick > ******************************* theo "...Power in the hands of fools..." From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 5 07:49:13 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 07:49:13 EDT Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <199808042354.AAA20499@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > From: J Strobridge > The Automind writes: > > > > > If it really catches, Moorcock could start writing new Jerry Cornelius > > novels! It would be interesting to see what he'd do to satirize the > > imitation of his original targets. > > Good plan - and I'd love to see a updated film version of Jerry > Cornelius with all the cynical view of a character simply getting When did this become the 'Soul Train' list? ******************************* theo "...Power in the hands of fools..." From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 5 08:02:44 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 08:02:44 EDT Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <19980804232311.29705.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: > From: The Automind > > Uma Thurman (as Emma Peel), Ralph Fiennes (as John Steed) > >and Sean Connery (as a bizarre Scottish villian who controls the > >weather). Good line-up, anyway. My impression is that it's been > >done with style and flair, but the proof of the pudding remains > >to be tested ... > > It's difficult to explain, but I'd almost feel like I was being > personally insulted if I paid to see that one. From the advertisements > it looks like its going to be a poorly constructed throwback to all the > 60's detective-spy-caper films (how can you recapture that charming > innocence?). There is no doubt that shortly after its release there > while be a massive trend where the usual idiots will try to adopt that > whole attitude and chique urbane, upperclass fashion look. American Yep, you got it... > pop-culture is so desperate for anything new right now, there's no way > this won't happen- unless the film bombs, and I don't think it will (the > ads looked very appealing). Oh, I think it'll be a collossal flop. Fiennes isn't big here except for arty type stuff like Quiz Show and English Patient. I don't think he can pull off an action-type flick. Not to say I don't like him. I thought he was fantastic in Strange Days, a great flick overall... I envy their ability to humiliate themselves > in front of others without embarrasment. Great observation, man! You ought to copyright that one! ******************************* theo "...Power in the hands of fools..." From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Wed Aug 5 09:39:32 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 09:39:32 -0400 Subject: New Moorcock Films (Was - UK Charts) Message-ID: er- Sorry, but could someone please recap this? Is there a new MM flick, or is that a simply a wish? Is there something other than "the Final Programme?" rj From lansford at VNET.NET Wed Aug 5 11:30:03 1998 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 15:30:03 GMT Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, "BREVARD, Adrian R." wrote: >Heard that Armaggedon is too noisy, 'Zilla too much hooey, Saving >Private Ryan too bloody. Think I'll go for the safe eye candy and check >out Catherine Zeta-Jones in Zorro. Seen 'em all and highly recommend any but 'Zilla. Zorro is a delightful romp and the only one I've =had= to see twice. I wouldn't recommend it for small children because of a couple of scenes. Armageddon is fun and the science is good enough to not bounce most people out of the film. NASA was involved in making it. As for noisy, I didn't find it nearly as noisy as Lethal Weapon IV. I'm considering seeing it again. I rarely cry at movies, but this one did get to me. And don't miss the credit sequence at the end. There's little in SPR that hasn't been done in your average slasher movie. This is a movie that no one should expect to enjoy, but everyone who can handle it =should= see it. The only movie that has come close to SPR's intensity for me was _Gettysburg_ when seen in the theater. I'm told the only competition SPR is expected to have come Oscar time is _The Thin Red Line_; TRL has a very high mark to aim for. If TRL is done with the same realism, it may be too much for some people who have little trouble with SPR. (TRL is about the 1st Marine Division on Guadalcanal. For me, the movie will make or break itself with how it handles certain events in that battle, particularly the point where the Marines realize their supply ships have pulled out.) Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net http://users.vnet.net/lansford/ From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Wed Aug 5 11:37:05 1998 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 16:37:05 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <35c86e64.12014052@pop.vnet.net> Message-ID: At 15:30 05/08/98 GMT, Jean Lansford wrote: >I'm told the only competition SPR is expected to have come Oscar time >is _The Thin Red Line_; (TRL is about the 1st Marine Division >on Guadalcanal. Er, why's it called Thin *Red* Line? Dave. Harlequin Ltd., Lismore House, 127 George St, Edinburgh, EH2 4JN, UK. Tel: +44 131 240 6106. From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 5 11:38:12 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 16:38:12 +0100 Subject: BOC - Heaven Forbid Review Message-ID: Here's the review from the August issue of Uncut [UK] magazine; "Blue Oyster Cult are back after a mysterious 10-year absence. BOC were metal for people too embarassed to like metal, a sort of meta-metal [1976s Agents Of Fortune is a classic]. Heaven Forbid [SPV} ***** [five star] is one hell of a return to form, their finest since 1980's Cultosaurus Erectus. "Harvest Moon" recalls the likes of "Last Days Of May" in spirit, "Damaged" seriously rocks....superb syuff. Don't leave it another 10 years, guys. Steve Knighton" Zeit Mother Gong - Robot Woman 2 -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 5 11:44:15 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 11:44:15 EDT Subject: BOC - Heaven Forbid Review In-Reply-To: <35C87C62.467E568B@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: > From: Stuart A Hamilton > Here's the review from the August issue of Uncut [UK] > magazine; > > "Blue Oyster Cult are back after a mysterious 10-year > absence. BOC were metal for people too embarassed to like > metal, a sort of meta-metal [1976s Agents Of Fortune is a > classic]. Heaven Forbid [SPV} ***** [five star] is one hell > of a return to form, their finest since 1980's Cultosaurus > Erectus. "Harvest Moon" recalls the likes of "Last Days Of > May" in spirit, "Damaged" seriously rocks....superb syuff. > Don't leave it another 10 years, guys. > Steve Knighton" > > Zeit > Mother Gong - Robot Woman 2 > Nice review in this month's Guitar Shop too... ******************************* theo "...Power in the hands of fools..." From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Wed Aug 5 11:47:14 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 11:47:14 -0400 Subject: OFF: War and Civilization Message-ID: Since the list has been delving into Saving Private Ryan lately, I was wondering if anyone else has been watching the War and Civilization 8 part series on The Learning Channel? It's been an interesting look at armies, weapons, and tactics since the begining of "true" warfare about 3,000 years ago. Tonights episodes cover WWI through the present. And it's narrated by Walter Cronkite. Man, I can listen to that guy talk all day. :-) Although last night I was switching back and forth between W&C and a commercial-free version of Ben Hur... W&C runs from 9-11pm EST tonight. Brian ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 5 11:48:40 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 11:48:40 EDT Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980805163705.009d6a00@mailhost.ed.harlequin.co.uk> Message-ID: > From: Dave Berry > At 15:30 05/08/98 GMT, Jean Lansford wrote: > >I'm told the only competition SPR is expected to have come Oscar time > >is _The Thin Red Line_; (TRL is about the 1st Marine Division > >on Guadalcanal. > > Er, why's it called Thin *Red* Line? > It's the title of a novel written by James Jones, the guy who wrote >From Here to Eternity. Jones was a combat vet from WWII who was stationed in Pearl Harbor when it was bombed, then his unit went to Guadalcanal for the assault there. JOnes was in the Army [tropic lightning division]. It's been a while since I read it--can't remember why it's titled thus, but I suspect it's the line between cowardice and heroism under fire... ******************************* theo "...Power in the hands of fools..." From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Aug 5 11:49:43 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 11:49:43 -0400 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <35c86e64.12014052@pop.vnet.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Jean Lansford wrote: > Armageddon is fun and the science is good enough to not bounce most > people out of the film. NASA was involved in making it. As for Funny, I heard the opposite: that _Deep Impact_ had the decent science, and that _Armageddon_ didn't. One example cited was the spacecraft used. In _Deep Impact_, they use something big and beefy---like it could handle a long flight---but in _Armageddon_, they hurtle off in what look like souped-up space shuttles, which would've run out of juice long before they reached the thing. Also, the notion that a body "the size of Texas" could sneak up on the Earth at such short notice is a little too hard to believe. Still, the important thing is that New York City gets bashed spectacularly... ;-) Cheers, Paul. obCD: Blue Oyster Cult, _The Thing!_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Aug 5 12:55:10 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 16:55:10 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: On ons 5 aug 1998 15.30 +0000 "Jean Lansford" wrote: > I'm told the only competition SPR is expected to have come Oscar time > is _The Thin Red Line_; TRL has a very high mark to aim for. If TRL > is done with the same realism, it may be too much for some people who > have little trouble with SPR. (TRL is about the 1st Marine Division > on Guadalcanal. For me, the movie will make or break itself with how > it handles certain events in that battle, particularly the point where > the Marines realize their supply ships have pulled out.) How marvelous--I love a good WWII film and it seems like there are two headed my way :) Ah, yes, I forgot Zorro. That might be fun :) What I really like in a film is well-made fluff with plenty of zip. This is why I am a sucker for Jackie Chan films :) Hollywood, alas, turns up much fluff that is poorly made with limited zip ... Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 5 11:53:03 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 11:53:03 EDT Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <35c86e64.12014052@pop.vnet.net> Message-ID: >> From: Jean Lansford > scenes. > > Armageddon is fun and the science is good enough to not bounce most > people out of the film. NASA was involved in making it. As for > noisy, I didn't find it nearly as noisy as Lethal Weapon IV. I'm > considering seeing it again. I rarely cry at movies, but this one did > get to me. And don't miss the credit sequence at the end. > I cried quite a few times: mostly during the love scenes bet. Liv Tyler and Ben Affleck [sp?] I've never seen such poor acting in my life! And the cliched oedipal competition between Affleck and Bruce Willis will likely make serious film buffs shed a tear or two. What a horrible script for such a huge budget! Right up there with Batman and Robin... ******************************* theo "...Power in the hands of fools..." From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Aug 5 12:11:27 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 12:11:27 -0400 Subject: HW: Business Trip Message-ID: My version of The Business Trip was not in a jewel case, it was a cardboard case with flip open panels. A recent conversation lead me to believe it is also available in a jewel case. Is there any difference between the cds from the two forms of packaging? (Don't know the label for the other, but mine is EBS.) And he took the stars in his hands and as he scattered them he'd shout: "I'm the Joker of the Universe! I'm What it's all about!" - "The Great Sun Jester" by Blue ?yster Cult (Eric Bloom, Michael Moorcock) -AAA From lansford at VNET.NET Wed Aug 5 12:11:57 1998 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 16:11:57 GMT Subject: OFF: summer films In-Reply-To: <1299071.3111239821@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Aug 1998, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >On tis 4 aug 1998 11.56 +0000 "Ted Jackson jr. s2h2" > wrote: >>> Heard that Armaggedon is too noisy, >> >> Better to see Deep Impact. Armageddon's just plain boring, and >> dialog's embarassingly awful. > > Gee, and I heard the problem with DI was you had to sit >through ages of people having relationships before the film >got down to brass tacks and started obliterating bits of the >planet! I was assured Arma was going to avoid the pretense of >a plot and stick flashy stuff. But perhaps not? For an action film, the plot's rather good if predictable. > Heck, with a film like this, I'm not there to see people >have emotions, I'm there to see the planet get whacked by >enormous rocks :) If you liked The Rock you'll like Armageddon. It also reminds me in places of Top Gun. I avoided DI because I just don't care for angst and hopelessness in my entertainment. I've been told I didn't miss much; most people I know who have seen it called the acting wooden. [snip] >>> Saving Private Ryan too bloody. >> >> Yeah, leave the kids home for this one. Horrific, realistic wartime >> violence shockingly portrayed. Reminds me of the violence in >> Braveheart, albeit moved up a couple hundred years...A great film, >> that would be even better if Spielberg would ever bother to develop a >> character. He seems steadfastly against giving any of his characters >> any motivation. Must've skipped that class at film school > > ;) I've heard good things about this, but I'm a WWII hobbyist >from way back--particularly on European ground war stuff. Gimme a >nice muddy tank over some flashy aeroplane any day :) I've been >told they've been pretty accuarate on gear, uniforms, etc., so I'm >looking forward to it Extremely accurate. How they turned a T-34 into a Tiger I'll never figure out, but the wheel arrangement was the only thing my WWII hobbyist husband noticed as wrong. They do misidentify a plane late in the movie, and I've heard questions about what were Rangers doing on Omaha Beach. (I'm told they were only on Utah, but haven't taken the time to look it up.) One thing that gets you is the sounds. They recorded the bullet sounds at a firing range using live ammo, and had the range owner fire into various materials to get the right impact sounds for mud, water, etc. > IMO, the violence in Braveheart was a bit "comic book". It wasn't messy enough, but I figured a movie studio was unlikely to go for too much realism. That the warriors generally weren't trying to fence with their swords I considered a huge step forward. ;) Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net http://users.vnet.net/lansford/ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Aug 5 12:34:32 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 17:34:32 +0100 Subject: OFF: summer films In-Reply-To: <35c87ba4.15406223@pop.vnet.net> Message-ID: I *am* avoiding this film topic I inadvertantly unleashed, but... > I avoided DI because I just don't care for angst and hopelessness in > my entertainment. ...that's exactly what I look for most of the time! :) - Andy ObCD: Mick Farren - _Vampires Stole My Lunch Money_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Wed Aug 5 13:59:25 1998 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 17:59:25 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <199808050823.EAA16083@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: On 5 Aug 98 at 4:28, Nick English wrote: > relevent than a 90s version of Lost in Space or The Avengers. To my > mind, if you're gonna mess with an old spy show, the only way to go > is the road Mike Meyers took with Austin Powers. You didn't actually see this, did you???? ;-) Alasdair -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Aug 5 10:18:37 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 15:18:37 +0100 Subject: HW: HW-ish In-Reply-To: <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD1972CB@EMSS05M03.ems.lmco.com> Message-ID: In article <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD1972CB at EMSS05M03.ems.lmco.co m>, Hall, Russell J writes >This observation probably has not gone unnoticed by the veteran HW'ers. > >However, I was listening to Echoes off Pink Floyd's Meddle and I could not >help noticing how similar it sounded like parts of HW's Hall of the Mountain >Grill. Which parts? -- Jon From abrevard at SHL.COM Wed Aug 5 13:06:36 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 10:06:36 -0700 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: > > Really? I thought _Lost in Space_ was aggressively > >unremarkable. So it goes. I'm pinning my hopes on _The Avengers_ > >now :) > > I'm not! >This whole damn trend of remakes and movie versions of old TV series is so completely nowhere it makes me sick every time I hear about another one! It's like the sequel plague of the 1980s -- not a shred of originality to be seen! It's like if a script isn't based on a book, an old movie or a TV series, studios don't wanna know from it. Yeah thats my general feeling. Hollywood has really hit a creative lull or they have gone the way of the record companies, maximize the profits by putting a slightly new spin on what has been done before. Some of the worst I have seen - Mission Impossible - Egads what an utterly horrible movie. I cannot believe they are considering a sequel. Lost in Space* - From the report my kids gave me this one should never have left the cutting room floor. *refused to see it. Movies/TV Series I'd hate to see them try - Anything Hitchcock, especially Rope, my fave. The Prisoner - Hollywood would be too tempted to make this a big FX ride and not a real story. Casablanca - Don't dare touch this one. Ultra Man (TV Series) Who the hell could play Hyata? (sp) Speed Racer - Do not attempt to adapt this cutting edge cartoon to a live action movie, they'd cast Tom (yeech) Cruise as Speed and Tommy Lee Jones as Racer X . Its a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World - Are there enough real comics in the world today to even try? Could ego's be set aside? Could Hollywood even afford the payroll? TV Series that are actual re-makes without the guts to admit it... Fake Original Seaquest DSV - Voyage to the Bottom of The Sea. Sliders - Time Tunnel >I'll give credit to X-Files...I'm not a fan of the show and I didn't see the movie, but it was a much different concept, and far more relevent than a 90s version of Lost in Space or The Avengers. Its a pretty good TV series when it isn't too pretentious. Most X-filers I know who have seen it said it captured the flavor of the series. >To my mind, if you're gonna mess with an old spy show, the only way to go is the road Mike Meyers took with Austin Powers. Heheheh, wonderful stories about this one. Why not find the right guy and re-make some of those "Our Man Flint serials..." do the opposite however don't make it a spoof. >The one that really makes me wanna puke is Nicolas Cage doing a remake of The Courtship of Eddie's Father (yes, it's happening, and it was HIS IDEA!). There's one guy I never thought I'd lose respect for! Well for light hearted drama you stand a better chance of making a more relevant film. I really like Cage's work. Recently had an argument with my wife that Nick should be the Jimmy Stewart character in a re-make of the X-mas classic, "It's a Wonderful Life." >My one guilty pleasure -- Dragnet with Aykroyd and Hanks. O Yeah! A wonderful little movie cast in the correct light. I just love the way the landlady goes on and on describing Emil Muzz "That miserable bag of puke..." >Spoiler Alert!!! I'm about to give away some good stuff on Saving Private Ryan!!! Pvt. Ryan is a hundred times bloodier than Braveheart, that was just the only recent flick I could think of that even came close. Yeah this word leaked during the opening weekend. Speilberg won't let his 13 year old son see this one. War is Hell, let there be no misunderstanding. >I've heard good things about this, but I'm a WWII hobbyist from way back--particularly on European ground war stuff. Gimme a nice muddy tank over some flashy aeroplane any day :) But would you want to be a driver or gunner in a tank? Air battles are more glamorous and modern day warfare says you must rule the skies to win a war. Back then War was won by the guys on the ground. No Farkin way would I ever want to be a tank commander, then or now. Nothing but a moving coffin. Besides the Air Force is the only branch of American forces where you can sleep in a bed during conflicts. >Didn't see it, for obvious reasons: Monster looks like a gay TRex from Lost World, and snub of BOC's song... Howls I have heard many descriptions of the new 'Zilla but never one put quite that way. Well I'm just gonna mosey in for my eye candy, Catherine Zeta-Jones. Sure this is typical "Al Bundy" approach to choosing a movie but a babe that overwhelming deserves to be seen on the big screen. Ghost In The Ruins ... ...who is turning into a cynical old chauvinist... "..all that and a bag a chips too!" - Johhny Bravo Watch it you Elvis rip-off... From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Aug 5 14:27:57 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 18:27:57 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: On ons 5 aug 1998 11.53 +0000 "Ted Jackson jr. s2h2" wrote: > I cried quite a few times: mostly during the love scenes bet. Liv > Tyler and Ben Affleck [sp?] I've never seen such poor acting in my > life! And the cliched oedipal competition between Affleck and Bruce > Willis will likely make serious film buffs shed a tear or two. What > a horrible script for such a huge budget! Right up there with Batman > and Robin... Arse, this sounds worrying. Right: what percentage of screen time is devoted to NYC getting trashed by space chunks? If it compares unfavourably to cheezy love scenes then I shan't be able to stomach it! -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Aug 5 14:34:00 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 18:34:00 +0000 Subject: OFF: summer films Message-ID: On ons 5 aug 1998 16.11 +0000 "Jean Lansford" wrote: > If you liked The Rock you'll like Armageddon. It also reminds me in > places of Top Gun. Eeek! Can't stand Top Gun! Didn't see the Rock. Hmmm, this is worrying. May simply skip this one. -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Wed Aug 5 13:34:04 1998 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:34:04 +0200 Subject: HW: Business Trip Message-ID: Andrew A. Apold schrieb: > My version of The Business Trip was not in a jewel > case, it was a cardboard case with flip open panels. > A recent conversation lead me to believe it is also > available in a jewel case. > > Is there any difference between the cds from the two > forms of packaging? (Don't know the label for the > other, but mine is EBS.) > I?ve got both versions. The one with the cardboard sleeve is the UK version on EBS, though I think there must be a version of it on Griffin too because the jewel case version has 2 label numbers on it, one for the normal version (GCD-280-2) and one for the Digipak version (GCD-279-2). Anyway, the difference between those two is that the Jewel case version has a 12 page booklet with a few photographs more (and bigger ones). But the best version is the vinyl album ! Andreas From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Aug 5 14:45:20 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 18:45:20 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: On ons 5 aug 1998 10.06 -0700 "BREVARD, Adrian R." wrote: > But would you want to be a driver or gunner in a tank? Gods, no! I might get shot at! I'm a historian, and as such have an excellent understanding that wars are _dangerous_. I prefer armchair-generalship as both cheaper and safer :) > Air battles are more glamorous and modern day warfare says you must rule > the skies to win a war. Bah! Glamourous. Bunch of sissies :) When it comes to aircraft I like the big, slow sluggers like the P-47 (and its spiritual descendant, the A-10). Or tactical bombers like the B-24. Or even logistical workhorses like the C-47. Snazzy modern interceptors like the F-16 and -15 put me to sleep :) F4Fs and F6Fs were pretty cool, and even the Corsair was OK. But I was never as into the Pacific Theatre. > Besides the Air Force is the only > branch of American forces where you can sleep in a bed during conflicts. Well, besides the Navy ... ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Wed Aug 5 13:48:24 1998 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 18:48:24 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 10:06 05/08/98 -0700, BREVARD, Adrian R. wrote: >But would you want to be a driver or gunner in a tank? >Air battles are more glamorous and modern day warfare says you must rule >the skies to win a war. I believe the average life expectancy of a pilot in the Battle Of Britain was about two months. I can't remember where I heard this though, so it may be just a factoid. Dave. Harlequin Ltd., Lismore House, 127 George St, Edinburgh, EH2 4JN, UK. Tel: +44 131 240 6106. From abrevard at SHL.COM Wed Aug 5 13:28:42 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 12:28:42 -0500 Subject: OFF: Lemmy know, 1983 live? Message-ID: Motor-heads - A rare Live cd from 1983 was recently mentioned on the list. Question is this the same as the King Biscuit Flower Hour cd now in stores? Says its from a 1983 show somewhere in New York. Saw this in Towers which seems to have a bucketload of the recommended MH cd's. Overkill and Motorhead, both, re-mastered versions. Time to go shopping methinks. Ghost in the Ruins From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Wed Aug 5 13:52:27 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 13:52:27 -0400 Subject: BOC: Jeopardy Message-ID: I'll take "Death in Pop for $300 Alex. Answer: Blue Oyster Cult told us not to fear him. Question: The Reaper This appeared on Jeopardy last night (8/4). From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Aug 5 15:31:53 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:31:53 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: On ons 5 aug 1998 18.48 +0100 "Dave Berry" wrote: > At 10:06 05/08/98 -0700, BREVARD, Adrian R. wrote: >>But would you want to be a driver or gunner in a tank? >>Air battles are more glamorous and modern day warfare says you must rule >>the skies to win a war. > > I believe the average life expectancy of a pilot in the Battle Of Britain > was about two months. I can't remember where I heard this though, so it > may be just a factoid. I recall a similar figure--and even shorter ones for pilots in WWI. And, conversely, I imagine the chances of survival for the average American tank crewman in the Gulf War was very good indeed ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Aug 5 14:28:11 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:28:11 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <2890653.3111330477@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: > Arse, this sounds worrying. Right: what percentage of screen > time is devoted to NYC getting trashed by space chunks? If it > compares unfavourably to cheezy love scenes then I shan't be able > to stomach it! Yuk! Girls and kissing! :) - Andy ObCD: Eliza Carthy - _Red Rice_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Wed Aug 5 14:42:32 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 14:42:32 -0400 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: >On ons 5 aug 1998 18.48 +0100 "Dave Berry" wrote: >> At 10:06 05/08/98 -0700, BREVARD, Adrian R. wrote: >>>But would you want to be a driver or gunner in a tank? >>>Air battles are more glamorous and modern day warfare says you must rule >>>the skies to win a war. >> >> I believe the average life expectancy of a pilot in the Battle Of Britain >> was about two months. I can't remember where I heard this though, so it >> may be just a factoid. How long do you expect a 2 month old pilot to survive a battle anyway? (har har) > I recall a similar figure--and even shorter ones for pilots >in WWI. And, conversely, I imagine the chances of survival for >the average American tank crewman in the Gulf War was very good >indeed ;) And would have been even greater if you discount friendly fire. Carl, you may not go for the F-15 or F-16, but what about the new F-22 or the new Swedish Saab-built fighter? Speed, kill power, and stealth all wrapped up in one... Jets worthy of a tribute from BOC! Brian ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- >Cheers, >Carl > >-- >Carl Edlund Anderson >Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic >St. John's College, University of Cambridge >mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk >http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Aug 5 15:53:17 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:53:17 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: On ons 5 aug 1998 19.28 +0100 "Andy Gilham" wrote:> ObCD: Eliza Carthy - _Red Rice_ Uh oh! Distressing trend, Andy! First the Kathryn Ticknell CD, and now this ... ;) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Aug 5 14:59:28 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:59:28 +0100 Subject: OFF: Folk was (RE: OFF: UK Charts) In-Reply-To: <3198565.3111335597@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: > On ons 5 aug 1998 19.28 +0100 "Andy Gilham" > wrote:> ObCD: Eliza Carthy - _Red Rice_ > > Uh oh! Distressing trend, Andy! First the Kathryn Ticknell > CD, and now this ... ;) Folk music, I know, but some programming and drum'n'bass-y bits too... anyway I felt like branching out, and shopping in the folk section always gives a little frisson of, y'know, forbidden fruit... I think that makes three folk albums I've got in total, if you count the Shooglenifty, so it's under control! (I mean, I've got just as many Mylene Farmer albums as I've got folk albums... :) Anyway, some of the vocals and the occasional bit of fiddle are a little bit too trad for my tastes, really, but she's undeniably brilliant at what she does, and it's a useful album to have. And reasonably hip too :) - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Aug 5 14:39:40 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:39:40 +0100 Subject: Off: More film comments In-Reply-To: <1089ECC3429@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: At 08:02 05/08/98 EDT, you wrote: >> From: The Automind > >> > Uma Thurman (as Emma Peel), Ralph Fiennes (as John Steed) >> >and Sean Connery (as a bizarre Scottish villian who controls the >> >weather). Good line-up, anyway. >--snip--< >> how can you recapture that charming >> innocence?). There is no doubt that shortly after its release there >> while be a massive trend where the usual idiots will try to adopt that >> whole attitude and chique urbane, upperclass fashion look. American >-- snip --<< >Oh, I think it'll be a collossal flop. Fiennes isn't big here except >for arty type stuff like Quiz Show and English Patient. I don't >think he can pull off an action-type flick. Not to say I don't like >him. I thought he was fantastic in Strange Days, a great flick >overall... I too am worried about a treasure being ransacked, but I don't think Fiennes as Steed will necessarily be a problem...I DO have serious doubts about Uma Thurman as Mrs. Peel - Diana Rigg she ain't; I also fear that the humour will be overplayed & overwritten to try and guarantee "laffs" from the popcorn bucket audience, rather than the wry, genteel and courtly approach of the original. As for LiS, one of the guys who put it together said that he'd intended to stay faithful to the original, until he went back and watched the old TV shows and realised how dire they were - a sentiment I agree with even though I enjoyed them as a kid! Finally, I second the motion for more new ideas in cinema - maybe the Hollywood types should rediscover books (now there's a revolutionary idea!). My 2 penn'orth ChrisW Free your mind & watch your ass! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Aug 5 14:53:04 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:53:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts (Deep Impact v Armageddon) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 11:49 05/08/98 -0400, you wrote: >On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Jean Lansford wrote: > >> Armageddon is fun and the science is good enough to not bounce most >> people out of the film. NASA was involved in making it. As for > >Funny, I heard the opposite: that _Deep Impact_ had the decent science, >and that _Armageddon_ didn't. Radio 4's "Front Row" arts programme gave Armageddon the thumbs up - well written, believable characters & dialogue, an ensemble cast (not just a star vehicle for Brucie) and a degree of emotional commitment. I also got the impression that the SFX served the story rather than the other way round. BTW I think Texas probably could sneak up - in astronomical terms it's not that big! ChrisW Free your mind & watch your ass! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Aug 5 14:16:15 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:16:15 +0100 Subject: Dream Three Piece In-Reply-To: <35C76934.56A26C97@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: At 21:04 04/08/98 +0100, you wrote: >BREVARD, Adrian R. wrote: > >> >> No problem as long as there are two women for each guy on the inside, no >> place for the women to hide when the inevitable ballad is played >> ...hehehehehe..... >> >> > >Tsk, tsk, and this is the 90's as well. I suspect a sexual orientation survey >would be required before we start assessing percentage breakdowns. Mind you, >if we move it to Leith Links, the teacher training college is right next >door! Cold shower time, methinks. > >Zeit Before the Leith Police dismisseth us? ChrisW NP: Wired - V/A Free your mind & watch your ass! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Aug 5 14:57:14 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:57:14 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <2555829.3111324910@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 16:55 05/08/98 +0000, Carl wrote: >On ons 5 aug 1998 15.30 +0000 "Jean Lansford" wrote: >> I'm told the only competition SPR is expected to have come Oscar time >> is _The Thin Red Line_; TRL has a very high mark to aim for. If TRL >> is done with the same realism, it may be too much for some people who >> have little trouble with SPR. (TRL is about the 1st Marine Division >> on Guadalcanal. For me, the movie will make or break itself with how >> it handles certain events in that battle, particularly the point where >> the Marines realize their supply ships have pulled out.) > > How marvelous--I love a good WWII film and it seems like >there are two headed my way :) > > Me too, but will the hardware be right - I always feel uncomfortable seeing anachronistic tanks & transports... ChrisW P.S. Carl, if you ever want to visit the Tank Museum at Bovington, I can give you a futon for the night! Free your mind & watch your ass! From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 5 15:16:56 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 15:16:56 EDT Subject: OFF: Spoiler alert! Armageddon In-Reply-To: <2890653.3111330477@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: >> From: Carl Edlund Anderson > > Arse, this sounds worrying. Right: what percentage of screen > time is devoted to NYC getting trashed by space chunks? If it > compares unfavourably to cheezy love scenes then I shan't be able > to stomach it! > Not too much of the flick involves NYC getting hit, though that's how the film opens. There's another pretty good scene where a tidal wave engulfs a big chunk of the China coast. The main problem is that Bruce Willis' character does almost the same thing as Robt. Duvall's does in Deep Impact, and Duvall wins hands down. It's obvious Duvall was having a blast making the flick, while Bruce looks like he needs an enema most of the film. The love scenes are GOD-AWFUL! And Bruce Willis as a concerned dad just isn't credible. And mind you, I'm a huge Willis fan! Deep Impact doesn't really have any scenes of asteroid collision until the end, and that's pretty spectacular. The outer space scenes in DI are pretty good, and Duval is a real treat. Armageddon can be compared to The Rock and Crimson Tide in terms of production design, but those 2 had great scripts and acting, which Arma doesn't come close to, I'm afraid... ******************************* theo "...Power in the hands of fools..." From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Aug 5 15:05:38 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:05:38 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 10:06 05/08/98 -0700, Ghost wrote: >Movies/TV Series I'd hate to see them try - > >The Prisoner - Hollywood would be too tempted to make this a big FX ride >and not a real story. If I recall corectly, in a recent interview, Alexis Kanner said that a movie had been mooted, but if it happens, it will be under the appropriate editorial control KWIM! ChrisW Free your mind & watch your ass! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Aug 5 15:14:12 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:14:12 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <3198565.3111335597@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 19:53 05/08/98 +0000, you wrote: >On ons 5 aug 1998 19.28 +0100 "Andy Gilham" >wrote:> ObCD: Eliza Carthy - _Red Rice_ > > Uh oh! Distressing trend, Andy! First the Kathryn Ticknell >CD, and now this ... ;) > >-- >Carl Edlund Anderson You've obviously never seen Ms. Tickell grappling with a set of Northumbrian pipes 8-{P> ChrisW P.s. She's a VERY nice person Free your mind & watch your ass! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Aug 5 15:10:40 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:10:40 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980805184824.009e6a70@mailhost.ed.harlequin.co. uk> Message-ID: At 18:48 05/08/98 +0100, you wrote: >At 10:06 05/08/98 -0700, BREVARD, Adrian R. wrote: >>But would you want to be a driver or gunner in a tank? >>Air battles are more glamorous and modern day warfare says you must rule >>the skies to win a war. > >I believe the average life expectancy of a pilot in the Battle Of Britain >was about two months. I can't remember where I heard this though, so it >may be just a factoid. > >Dave. I think that's pretty close. It wasn't much better for RAF bomber crew (don't know about U.S.) - I think you could count yourself lucky if you survived two full tours of duty. ChrisW Free your mind & watch your ass! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Aug 5 15:08:21 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:08:21 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <2953399.3111331520@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 18:45 05/08/98 +0000, Carl wrote: >On ons 5 aug 1998 10.06 -0700 "BREVARD, Adrian R." wrote: > >> But would you want to be a driver or gunner in a tank? > > Gods, no! I might get shot at! > > I'm a historian, and as such have an excellent understanding >that wars are _dangerous_. I prefer armchair-generalship as both >cheaper and safer :) > >> Air battles are more glamorous and modern day warfare says you must rule >> the skies to win a war. > > Bah! Glamourous. Bunch of sissies :) When it comes to >aircraft I like the big, slow sluggers like the P-47 (and its >spiritual descendant, the A-10). Or tactical bombers like the >B-24. Or even logistical workhorses like the C-47. Snazzy >modern interceptors like the F-16 and -15 put me to sleep :) > > F4Fs and F6Fs were pretty cool, and even the Corsair was >OK. But I was never as into the Pacific Theatre. > Wot! no mention of the Me262! An outraged ChrisW Free your mind & watch your ass! From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Aug 5 16:29:42 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:29:42 +0000 Subject: Off: More film comments Message-ID: On ons 5 aug 1998 19.39 +0100 "Chris Warburton" wrote: > Finally, I second the motion for more new ideas in cinema - maybe the > Hollywood types should rediscover books (now there's a revolutionary idea!). Novel length stuff adapts badly, IMO, but short stories can work OK. On the other hand, the jump from page to screen is fraught with peril (I just wanted to use that expression, actually :) and few films manage it successfully, let alone gracefully. If they could simply come up with nice, punchy little stories and tell them well, that would be OK. Mind you, the Richard Lester Muskateer films are among my faves, so I can contradict myself with the best of 'em :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Aug 5 16:34:52 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:34:52 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts (Deep Impact v Armageddon) Message-ID: On ons 5 aug 1998 19.53 +0100 "Chris Warburton" wrote: > BTW I think Texas probably could sneak up - in astronomical terms it's not > that big! Texas-sized or not, the Earth could easily be hammered by a astronomical object that nobody noticed until it smacked into us. I recall there was one that zipped by a few 100k miles or so away (gnat's whisker, in astronomical terms) that nobody knew about until three days after. Dunno how big it was, but I recall the projected explosive force, had it hit, would have outstripped the total nuclear weapons stocks of the planet by a very, very large amount. Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Aug 5 16:36:11 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:36:11 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: On ons 5 aug 1998 19.57 +0100 "Chris Warburton" wrote: > P.S. Carl, if you ever want to visit the Tank Museum at Bovington, I can > give you a futon for the night! I may take you up on that sometime this autumn! I've not been there since '84 or so! Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Aug 5 16:45:06 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:45:06 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: > Wot! no mention of the Me262! > An outraged > ChrisW ;) Well, heresy though it may be on a BOC list, the actual beast as produced and used doesn't do much for me. Now had it actually been allowed to come into its own as a fighter, I'd have warmer feelings for it. I generally like the German prop fighters, and the Stuka had a certain gut-level charm. But none of it can really compete with a good T-34 or Panther for me. Heavy metal! :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Aug 5 16:46:42 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:46:42 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: On ons 5 aug 1998 20.14 +0100 "Chris Warburton" wrote: > At 19:53 05/08/98 +0000, you wrote: >>On ons 5 aug 1998 19.28 +0100 "Andy Gilham" >>wrote:> ObCD: Eliza Carthy - _Red Rice_ >> >> Uh oh! Distressing trend, Andy! First the Kathryn Ticknell >>CD, and now this ... ;) >> >>-- >>Carl Edlund Anderson > > You've obviously never seen Ms. Tickell grappling with a set of Northumbrian > pipes 8-{P> Quite the opposite :) I'm the folk fan taking the non-tradding Mr. Gilham to task for his out of character music ;) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From adawson at CLARA.NET Wed Aug 5 15:37:38 1998 From: adawson at CLARA.NET (Andrew Dawson) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:37:38 +0100 Subject: HW: Business Trip In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 19:34 05/08/98 +0200, you wrote: >Andrew A. Apold schrieb: >> My version of The Business Trip was not in a jewel >> case, it was a cardboard case with flip open panels. >> A recent conversation lead me to believe it is also >> available in a jewel case. >> >> Is there any difference between the cds from the two >> forms of packaging? (Don't know the label for the >> other, but mine is EBS.) >> I?ve got both versions. The one with the cardboard sleeve is the UK version on >EBS, though I think there must be a version of it on Griffin too because the >jewel case version has 2 label numbers on it, one for the normal version >(GCD-280-2) and one for the Digipak version (GCD-279-2). Anyway, the difference >between those two is that the Jewel case version has a 12 page booklet with a few >photographs more (and bigger ones). But the best version is the vinyl album ! > >Andreas > > Both digipak & jewel case versions were released in the U.K & the USA as well as on vinyl. Digipak U.K EBSSCD 111, USA GCD-279-2 Jewel case U.K EBSCD 111, USA GCD-280-2 Vinyl U.K EBSLP 111, USA GCD280-1 The digipak and vinyl releases are, I believe, identical as they carry both catalogue numbers. The jewel case releases, apart from having the booklet mentioned above, which by the way is identical in both releases, has slightly different artwork on the front. The discs are also different. The U.K release is a plain silver disc with black and purple printing whereas the USA release has the "standard" doremi shield printed on it in common with most Griffin releases. To view the artwork differences take a look at http://home.clara.net/adawson/bus-trip.html Andy Andrew Dawson adawson at clara.net Into Hawkwind ? Then check out the Worldwide discography. http://home.clara.net/adawson From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Aug 5 16:50:35 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:50:35 +0000 Subject: OFF: Folk was (RE: OFF: UK Charts) Message-ID: On ons 5 aug 1998 19.59 +0100 "Andy Gilham" wrote: > Folk music, I know, but some programming and drum'n'bass-y bits too... > Anyway, some of the vocals and the occasional bit of fiddle are a little bit > too trad for my tastes, really, but she's undeniably brilliant at what she > does, and it's a useful album to have. And reasonably hip too :) Ah, you've fallen into their cunning trap! ;) (I will take this opportunity to randomly promote the excellent Swedish trad-jazz metal of Hoven Droven ...) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Aug 5 16:57:39 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:57:39 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: On ons 5 aug 1998 14.42 -0400 "brian halligan" wrote: > Carl, you may not go for the F-15 or F-16, but what about the new F-22 > or the new Swedish Saab-built fighter? Speed, kill power, and stealth > all wrapped up in one... Jets worthy of a tribute from BOC! Well, the stealth planes I've seen look pretty smart--very sci-fi. Saw one fly over Boston a year or so ago and it looked pretty snazzy. Saab has a new fighter? This is news to me--I've not kept on on recent developments as well as I might! The other Saabs were pretty cool. I liked the Harrier as well :) Still, the A-10 is my fave. Low, slow, and heavy-hitting. The Kyuss of Airplanes! I think I just like lo-tech thunder :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Aug 5 17:00:51 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 21:00:51 +0000 Subject: HW: what's up? Message-ID: And for something slightly on-topic ... ;) Does anyone have the slightest idea what HW are up to? As far as I can tell, they've been totally sitting on their arses all year. Are these rumored releases actually going to appear? When? Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 5 16:07:13 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 21:07:13 +0100 Subject: OFF: Lemmy know, 1983 live? Message-ID: Twas me who mentioned the Live 1893 album. It must be a different one because the one I have was recorded at Sheffield University on June 9 1983. A bit East from New York! Zeit The Sensational Alex Harvey Band - Tomorrow Never Comes BREVARD, Adrian R. wrote: > Motor-heads - > > A rare Live cd from 1983 was recently mentioned on the list. Question > is this the same as the King Biscuit Flower Hour cd now in stores? Says > its from a 1983 show somewhere in New York. Saw this in Towers which > seems to have a bucketload of the recommended MH cd's. Overkill and > Motorhead, both, re-mastered versions. Time to go shopping methinks. > > Ghost in the Ruins -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Wed Aug 5 16:10:51 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 16:10:51 -0400 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: Carl said: > Still, the A-10 is my fave. Low, slow, and heavy-hitting. >The Kyuss of Airplanes! > > I think I just like lo-tech thunder :) "The Boys From Syracuse" 174th FW used to fly them over my house. I could get up at 6 the morning and spot them on the horizon. By around 11 p.m. they'd be past my house and out of sight ;-) Seriously though, its armor crunching 30mm gun makes up for it's lack of any speed whatsoever... Being "into speed" as I am, I was happy when the 174th switched to F-16s with added 20mm gun pods. "Blasts from 30mm shells in my snout, and see Iraqi tanks go boom." or something like that. Brian ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html ---------- >Cheers, >Carl > >-- >Carl Edlund Anderson >Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic >St. John's College, University of Cambridge >mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk >http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From abrevard at SHL.COM Wed Aug 5 16:10:11 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 13:10:11 -0700 Subject: OFF: Theo u missed the party Message-ID: >When did this become the 'Soul Train' list? theo Where u been man? The party was at Zeit's. Next party ok? >I'll take "Death in Pop for $300 Alex. >Answer: Blue Oyster Cult told us not to fear him. >Question: The Reaper >This appeared on Jeopardy last night (8/4). Quick somebody alert FAQMAN! Ghost in the Ruins From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Aug 5 16:25:23 1998 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 16:25:23 -0400 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: > Well, the stealth planes I've seen look pretty smart--very sci-fi. Saw one fly over Boston a year or so ago and it looked pretty snazzy. Yeah, those are pretty cool. I saw one in an air show a few years back. Then again, I think F-16s are pretty cool too. >I liked the Harrier as well :) Oh yeah - brings back memories of the "Thunderbirds" series... Hoping to see a B-2 fly-by someday... John From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Aug 5 16:29:13 1998 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 16:29:13 -0400 Subject: OFF: BOC ;-) Message-ID: Lots of off-topic stuff, not much BOC these days... Anybody heard "No-Zilla"? Anybody got a COPY of "No-Zilla"? Check out the August issue of "Vintage Guitar" for a great interview with Buck. "Live For Me", a slightly edited (shortened?) version is being released soon as the next single. John From fn62 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 5 17:21:39 1998 From: fn62 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Alison Hopkins) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 22:21:39 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: -----Original Message----- From: brian halligan To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: 05 August 1998 21:11 Subject: Re: OFF: UK Charts >"The Boys From Syracuse" 174th FW used to fly them over my house. I >could get up at 6 the morning and spot them on the horizon. By around >11 p.m. they'd be past my house and out of sight ;-) Seriously though, >its armor crunching 30mm gun makes up for it's lack of any speed >whatsoever... Give me a good rocket assisted C-130 any day! Do you know, for a minute I thought I was reading Dave's aviation list...,g> Ali From sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU Wed Aug 5 18:42:37 1998 From: sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:42:37 +1000 Subject: OFF: October Prog Festival in Stockholm Message-ID: Just got the following press release from Record Heaven: RECORD HEAVEN & GARF presents The 3rd annual SCANDINAVIAN PROGRESSIVE ROCK FESTIVAL October 23-25, 1998. V?gen, G?teborg (Gothenburg), Sweden. Friday 23rd: MATS & MORGAN (Swe) PRESENT ex-Universe zero (Belgium) BONDAGE FRUIT (Japan), CROMWELL (Germany) Saturday 24th ARENA ex-Marillion & Pendragon (UK) QOPH (Swe), ISILDURS BANE (Swe) FIVE FIFTHEEN (Finland) Sunday 25th Convention / Record fair Make up your plans in time for the biggest progressive rock event in the north Tickets available from August 15st. 3-day ticket: 295:- Payment: Cash in a registered letter. 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Staff of Record Hevaen & GARF (The Artrock society of Gothenburg) -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique / \( o`-, ----- may sonique at mail.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they UIN #14292706 on ICQ /////// : ; --- Fly! From capcloud at PALMNET.NET Wed Aug 5 22:01:45 1998 From: capcloud at PALMNET.NET (Captain Cloud) Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 22:01:45 -0400 Subject: HW: Strange Daze 98 questions Message-ID: I hate to break up the movie review section (in fact I've had trouble staying out of it up 'til now :-), but I'm starting to prepare for Strange Daze '98 and thought I'd toss out some questions: Has anybody ever been to "Nelson Ledges Quarry Park" in Garretsville Ohio before? Specifically, I'd like to know more about the availability of food, drink, water, showers, rest rooms, etc.etc. before I arrive on-site. One of the small details that made SD97 such a success was that the campsite had most amenities available, including a hot kitchen. If we are equally lucky at this year's site, then happy I shall be... However, if I have to slog in all the food/drink/water/toilet paper that will be needed for the weekend, I'd sure better get planning. Since I will be flying into Cleveland on Friday morning it would really mean that I'd be buying all supplies on the road... :-( Yet another question revolves around Sunday night. Apparently the SD98 ticket covers camping on Fri and Sat but not Sunday. Will we be allowed to continue camping on Sun nite (for a fee I assume), or will we have to vacate the park and find a hotel? Anybody with any answers to the above, before I start bugging Jim Lasko for an answer? Did anyone else notice that Nash the Slash seems to have disappeared from the SD98 advert? I was actually looking forward to Nash, since I have some of his releases as well as some FM releases. Still, I'm more than glad that Melting Euphoria will be showing up. I also noticed that M.E. appears to be organizing a show with ArcMet on Thursday (13th) at Wetlands NYC, and possibly another on Sunday (16th) at Coney Is.High NYC. Whoever doesn't make it to SD98 should consider checking these folks out. ObLP: The Spacious Mind - 'Garden of a Well Fed Head' -- Captain Cloud capcloud at palmnet.net http://www5.palmnet.net/~capcloud/ From arjanh at CS.VU.NL Thu Aug 6 03:41:47 1998 From: arjanh at CS.VU.NL (Hulsebos A) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:41:47 +0200 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson "Re: OFF: UK Charts" (Aug 5, 6:45pm) Message-ID: On Aug 5, 6:45pm, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > I'm a historian, and as such have an excellent understanding >that wars are _dangerous_. I prefer armchair-generalship as both >cheaper and safer :) You don't have to be a historian to see that. However, nowadays it's relative safe to be a military, as was widnessed in Bosnia, and even in the Gulf war, if you were on the "right" side. >> Air battles are more glamorous and modern day warfare says you must rule >> the skies to win a war. > > Bah! Glamourous. Bunch of sissies :) When it comes to >aircraft I like the big, slow sluggers like the P-47 (and its >spiritual descendant, the A-10). Or tactical bombers like the Yes, yes!!! I saw two A-10s once on a shooting practise. IM-PRES-SIVE!!! I would say, tho, that the A-10 is the descendant of the Il-2, rather than the P-47. >B-24. Or even logistical workhorses like the C-47. Snazzy >modern interceptors like the F-16 and -15 put me to sleep :) But they look more sexy..... > F4Fs and F6Fs were pretty cool, and even the Corsair was >OK. But I was never as into the Pacific Theatre. >> Besides the Air Force is the only >> branch of American forces where you can sleep in a bed during conflicts. > > Well, besides the Navy ... ;) They're also the only Americans that _sleep_ in a bed during a conflict.... >Cheers, >Carl Cheers, Arjan H Disclaimer? Whaddayamean, disclaimer? This is 1998! Arjan Hulsebos -- arjanh at cs.vu.nl For more info (last updated June 5,1998): finger -l arjanh at top.cs.vu.nl From arjanh at CS.VU.NL Thu Aug 6 03:43:29 1998 From: arjanh at CS.VU.NL (Hulsebos A) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:43:29 +0200 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson "Re: OFF: UK Charts" (Aug 5, 7:31pm) Message-ID: On Aug 5, 7:31pm, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >On ons 5 aug 1998 18.48 +0100 "Dave Berry" wrote: > I recall a similar figure--and even shorter ones for pilots >in WWI. And, conversely, I imagine the chances of survival for >the average American tank crewman in the Gulf War was very good >indeed ;) Unless hit by friendly fire. >Cheers, >Carl Arjan H From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Thu Aug 6 00:16:43 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 04:16:43 +0000 Subject: OFF: BOC ;-) Message-ID: > Anybody heard "No-Zilla"? > > Anybody got a COPY of "No-Zilla"? Guess I missed something. What is No-Zilla? > "Live For Me", a slightly edited (shortened?) version is being released > soon as the next single. > > John They'll probably take that stuff off at the end...you know - the part with the kids playing in the background and stuff. The actual musical term for this part of the song is apparently not in my vocabulary, so let's just call it: The End. -- Nick From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Thu Aug 6 00:37:45 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 04:37:45 +0000 Subject: BOC: Jeopardy Message-ID: > I'll take "Death in Pop for $300 Alex. > > Answer: Blue Oyster Cult told us not to fear him. > > Question: The Reaper > > This appeared on Jeopardy last night (8/4). Damn! I can't believe it! I was actually flipping through the channels that night at the time Jeopardy is on (Freak occurrence - I'm NEVER watching TV at that time), and I actually settled on the show for about five minutes, but never caught that question! My life ain't ruined or anything, but it would have brightened my evening a bit! -- Nick From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Thu Aug 6 05:36:05 1998 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 10:36:05 +0100 Subject: A-10 Re: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 05 Aug 1998 20:57:39 -0000." <3430884.3111339459@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > Still, the A-10 is my fave. Low, slow, and heavy-hitting. > The Kyuss of Airplanes! > Then Carl, you should have been around these parts about 12 years ago. With Woodbridge & Bentwaters US airbases a stones throw away, there were more A10s in the sky than you could shake a stick at. Bentwaters AFB - cool planes, nuclear accident scares (some loader apparently dropped a stack of bombs on the apron), and of course, the obligatory and well documented UFO sightings (Take Me Away and back on topic). Anyway, the coolest aircraft IMHO were the 'Nam era US planes. Super Sabres, Thuds, Corsairs, Phantoms... cheers, Tim ObCD: Mogwai, _Fear Satan remixes_ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Aug 6 06:51:19 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 10:51:19 +0000 Subject: A-10 Re: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: On tor 6 aug 1998 10.36 +0100 bart wrote: >[Carl wrote:] >> Still, the A-10 is my fave. Low, slow, and heavy-hitting. >> The Kyuss of Airplanes! > > Then Carl, you should have been around these parts about 12 years ago. With > Woodbridge & Bentwaters US airbases a stones throw away, there were more A10s > in the sky than you could shake a stick at. Actually, I was :) Lived near Cambridge '83-'84. (Actually saw the big Traveller encampment at Stonehenge back then, though had no idea what the heck it was!) > Anyway, the coolest aircraft IMHO were the 'Nam era US planes. Super Sabres, > Thuds, Corsairs, Phantoms... Ah, Thuds--those were cool. Phantom was prety cool once they realized they shoulda stuck a gun on it ;) Cheers, Carl ObCD: _Captured Rotation_ -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Aug 6 06:55:00 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 10:55:00 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: On tor 6 aug 1998 09.41 +0200 "Hulsebos A" wrote: > On Aug 5, 6:45pm, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> I'm a historian, and as such have an excellent understanding >>that wars are _dangerous_. I prefer armchair-generalship as both >>cheaper and safer :) > > You don't have to be a historian to see that. However, nowadays it's > relative safe to be a military, as was widnessed in Bosnia, and even > in the Gulf war, if you were on the "right" side. True enough. Overwhelming superiority of fire-power is always good to have. >>Snazzy >>modern interceptors like the F-16 and -15 put me to sleep :) > > But they look more sexy..... Well, "sexy" is in the eye of the beholder, as they say. I'll leave them to the "Kings of Speed" (another almost on-topic reference! :) Cheers, Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Aug 6 06:57:27 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 10:57:27 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: On tor 6 aug 1998 09.43 +0200 "Hulsebos A" wrote: >>And, conversely, I imagine the chances of survival for >>the average American tank crewman in the Gulf War was very good >>indeed ;) > > Unless hit by friendly fire. Well, anyone's chances for survival go down when things that blow up start to land on them, no matter who shot it at them ;) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 6 07:53:54 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 12:53:54 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: Dave Berry's message of Wed, 5 Aug 1998 18:48:24 +0100 Message-ID: Dave Berry writes: > At 10:06 05/08/98 -0700, BREVARD, Adrian R. wrote: > >But would you want to be a driver or gunner in a tank? > >Air battles are more glamorous and modern day warfare says you must rule > >the skies to win a war. > > I believe the average life expectancy of a pilot in the Battle Of Britain > was about two months. I can't remember where I heard this though, so it > may be just a factoid. I think it was 10 missions or something of the sort. But almost nobody made it to the full amount and during the heaviest air-raiding period pilots were being called out at least once a day if not more. For a new inexperienced pilot, before the Spitfires arrived, with almost no training your survival rate was reckoned in weeks, if you were lucky. Strange world. Didn't Bob Calvert estimate a similar, if not shorter, survival rate for pilots flying whatever those Starfighter planes were in Captain Lockheed? jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 6 07:56:57 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 12:56:57 +0100 Subject: HW: Business Trip In-Reply-To: Andrew A. Apold's message of Wed, 5 Aug 1998 12:11:27 -0400 Message-ID: Andrew A. Apold writes: > My version of The Business Trip was not in a jewel > case, it was a cardboard case with flip open panels. > A recent conversation lead me to believe it is also > available in a jewel case. > > Is there any difference between the cds from the two > forms of packaging? (Don't know the label for the > other, but mine is EBS.) The original CD issue was in digipak form and because of this they delayed issuing the jewel box version for a few months so that the market wouldn't be flooded with everything at once. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU Thu Aug 6 07:58:39 1998 From: sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 21:58:39 +1000 Subject: HW: what's up? Message-ID: On 5 Aug 98, at 21:00, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote about HW: what's up?: > And for something slightly on-topic ... ;) Nice change :-) > Does anyone have the slightest idea what HW are up to? > As far as I can tell, they've been totally sitting on their > arses all year. Are these rumored releases actually going > to appear? When? I don't have an answer on that, but I do know that the new studio album *IS* finished, but that the boys hadn't decided what label it was to be on. I guess we'll find out in the fullness of time ..... Soniqu? -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique / \( o`-, ----- may sonique at mail.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they UIN #14292706 on ICQ /////// : ; --- Fly! From arjanh at CS.VU.NL Thu Aug 6 07:57:38 1998 From: arjanh at CS.VU.NL (Hulsebos A) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 13:57:38 +0200 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: J Strobridge "Re: OFF: UK Charts" (Aug 6, 12:53pm) Message-ID: On Aug 6, 12:53pm, J Strobridge wrote: >Didn't Bob Calvert estimate a similar, if not shorter, survival rate for >pilots flying whatever those Starfighter planes were in Captain >Lockheed? Must've been German Starfilghter jocks, then. The 'joke' then was that if you wanted to get a Starfighter, you'd only had to buy an acre in Germany.... > >jill > >=========================================================================== >J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk > ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Aug 6 08:01:52 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:01:52 EDT Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <3430884.3111339459@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > > Well, the stealth planes I've seen look pretty smart--very > sci-fi. Saw one fly over Boston a year or so ago and it looked > pretty snazzy. Saab has a new fighter? This is news to me--I've > not kept on on recent developments as well as I might! The > other Saabs were pretty cool. I liked the Harrier as well :) > > Still, the A-10 is my fave. Low, slow, and heavy-hitting. > The Kyuss of Airplanes! > > I think I just like lo-tech thunder :) > > Cheers, > Carl The scariest-looking plane I've ever seen was a B-1 bomber at an air show a couple years ago. The matte paint job, and the ominous plackard next to the plane casually telling us that this one plane could level 30 cities with cruise missiles, the fact that this relatively-small-looking plane could carry a much larger payload than a B-52. And the SMG-armed, beret-wearing APs stationed around the plane to keep spectators from getting too close...Well, it was quite a sight... ******************************* theo "...Power in the hands of fools..." From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Aug 6 09:14:14 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 13:14:14 +0000 Subject: HW: what's up? Message-ID: On tor 6 aug 1998 21.58 +1000 Soniqu? wrote: > I don't have an answer on that, but I do know that the new studio album *IS* > finished, but that the boys hadn't decided what label it was to be on. I > guess we'll find out in the fullness of time ..... Not EBS then? Do we know anything about the character of this new album? Cheers, Carl ObCD: _Palace Springs_ -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Aug 6 08:11:56 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:11:56 EDT Subject: OFF: Spoiler Alert ! Deep Impact... In-Reply-To: <3348621.3111338092@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: > From: Carl Edlund Anderson > > Texas-sized or not, the Earth could easily be hammered by > a astronomical object that nobody noticed until it smacked into > us. I recall there was one that zipped by a few 100k miles or so > away (gnat's whisker, in astronomical terms) that nobody knew > about until three days after. Dunno how big it was, but I > recall the projected explosive force, had it hit, would have > outstripped the total nuclear weapons stocks of the planet by > a very, very large amount. > > Cheers, > Carl Spoiler Alert!!! Right! In Deep Impact, the comet is supposed to be the size of Mt. Everest, and astronomers realize it is a planet-killer. The resuce team isn't completely successful--they manage to plant nukes on the comet, but they can't break it up completely. The biggest piece IS diverted, and misses planet Earth, but a relatively small [maybe one-fifth of the total comet?] piece hits the ocean just off the Virginia coast, and creates a tidal wave that reaches a couple hundred miles inland! BTW, if, as Armageddon posits, an asteroid the size of Texas hit the planet, would that be enough force to disrupt Earth's orbit? Not that anyone would be alive to notice. Isn't that why Neptune's axis of rotation is skewed? ******************************* theo "...Power in the hands of fools..." From arjanh at CS.VU.NL Thu Aug 6 08:13:19 1998 From: arjanh at CS.VU.NL (Hulsebos A) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 14:13:19 +0200 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: "Ted Jackson jr. s2h2" "Re: OFF: UK Charts" (Aug 6, 8:01am) Message-ID: On Aug 6, 8:01am, Ted Jackson jr. s2h2 wrote: >The scariest-looking plane I've ever seen was a B-1 bomber at an air >show a couple years ago. The matte paint job, and the ominous >plackard next to the plane casually telling us that this one plane >could level 30 cities with cruise missiles, the fact that this >relatively-small-looking plane could carry a much larger payload than >a B-52. And the SMG-armed, beret-wearing APs stationed around the >plane to keep spectators from getting too close...Well, it was quite >a sight... It always reminds me of a shark. > >theo > > >"...Power in the hands of fools..." Hmmmm, quite appropriate. Arjan H From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Aug 6 08:14:24 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:14:24 EDT Subject: OFF: BOC ;-) In-Reply-To: <199808052029.QAA25958@mbunix.mitre.org> Message-ID: > From: John A Swartz >> > Check out the August issue of "Vintage Guitar" for a great interview > with Buck. > Consider it done! Is BD much of a collector? His stage gear, even when they had a huge touring budget, usually consisted of recent-issue gtr and amps. What's his favorite stuff to collect? ******************************* theo "...Power in the hands of fools..." From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Aug 6 05:23:29 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 10:23:29 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , BREVARD, Adrian R. writes >Its a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World - Are there enough real comics in the >world today to even try? Could ego's be set aside? Could Hollywood >even afford the payroll? How about a post-apocalyptic update, set in the scorched Oz outback? Call it Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad Max or something. Um, I'll just get my coat, then. -- Jon From christmu at EUNET.NO Thu Aug 6 08:20:49 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 14:20:49 +0200 Subject: OFF: MAN VS MOOSE! Message-ID: This is from a recent local paper, I cracked up when I read it and just had to translate this, as I know moose auto-murder has been a heavy subject on this list in the past. I also put up the story, the dead road-moose pic, and an account of a drunken Swedish moose on my website. All this in one hour. Choose your moose. Christian ( picture at: http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/moose.html ) "Don't understand: The Moose will probably use thousands of years to understand that the automobile is a natural enemy. In 1996, 1142 moose were killed or put to death as a result of traffic accidents. The moose-accidents also take human lives and yearly hurts 100 drivers. The family that ran into this moose in Hedmark earlier this summer, came out of the ordeal mostly unscathed." DON'T GET IT "Every year, over 1 000 moose die on the road. 100 drivers are hurt, and and three are killed. The King of The Forest doesen't have the brains to stay away." THE MOOSE IS NOT AFRAID OF CARS (by Gunnar Hagen) It can take several thousand years before the moose's instinct registers that the automobile is a threat, says moose-professor Olav Hjeljord. The moose is not particularly smart. The sight of speeding cars don't scare it. On the other hand, if a jogger comes jogging along the road, the moose will run away. Inherited insticts tell the moose that the human is a predator classed with a wolf or a bear. Cars on the other hand, do not scare it, says Hjeljord. He is a scientist at Norges landbruksh?gskole [Norway's agricultural college] and has recently taken a doctorate on moose and moose grazing grounds. HUMANS KILL MORE About 10 000 years ago, after the last Ice Age, the moose arrived in Norway. Ever since, humans have hunted it. And still we clearly remain its greatest enemy. During moose-hunt season, we shoot 30-40 000 animals, while the cars "only" kill about 1 000, the trains about 500. Instinct tells the moose that it has more to fear from humans than automobiles, the moose-professor says. Today's moose-stock is at about 1 00 000 animals. -How long time will the animal use to establish fear of the road? Hundreds of years, maybe thousands. The time perspective is not so interesting - within our future it will remain this way. The automobile has been here for 70 years and the moose has not learned. "NEVER SAW THE MOOSE" -What is the usual reason for moose-collision? Often the moose runs parallell to the road for a stretch. It will see the car, but is unable to gauge the speed and will try to cross in front of it. A usual reaction is then: "I never saw the moose". Hjeljord informs that moose-road-accidents happen year around, but with two peak seasons. In May/June, when the young calfs are driven away by their parents - and during winter, when moose congregate in the low lands to graze around trafficked roads. The heaviest versions of The King of The Forest can weigh over half a ton. On its long thin legs, the moose is a potential traffic bomb. FAILED EFFORTS Vegdirektoratet [the road dept.] have attempted several ideas, most of them failing: Large sums were spent on German poles [no pun intended!] with reflectives that looked like eyes of predators. These were to be lit up by the approaching cars' headlights. A waste of money, says Hjeljord. High-frequency sounds on test cars have not been effective. Odor-bags of urine from wolf and bear have not been effective either. Clear roads and better lighting however have helped to an extent. -Now fences are being put up on all new highways. It will help, but will have a significant negative consequence that moose stocks are stopped and grazing grounds isolated, says Olav Hjeljord. From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Aug 6 08:36:47 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:36:47 -0400 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: >> I believe the average life expectancy of a pilot in the Battle Of Britain >> was about two months. I can't remember where I heard this though, so it >> may be just a factoid. > >I think it was 10 missions or something of the sort. Well, what was it from Blackadder Goes Forth? The Twenty-Minuters? And he took the stars in his hands and as he scattered them he'd shout: "I'm the Joker of the Universe! I'm What it's all about!" - "The Great Sun Jester" by Blue ?yster Cult (Eric Bloom, Michael Moorcock) -AAA From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 6 09:04:47 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 14:04:47 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts (Deep Impact v Armageddon) In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Wed, 5 Aug 1998 20:34:52 +0000 Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > On ons 5 aug 1998 19.53 +0100 "Chris Warburton" > wrote: > > BTW I think Texas probably could sneak up - in astronomical terms it's not > > that big! > > Texas-sized or not, the Earth could easily be hammered by > a astronomical object that nobody noticed until it smacked into > us. I recall there was one that zipped by a few 100k miles or so > away There was one about half a million miles away - twice as far as the Moon. In 1972 one grazed the atmosphere (say 200 miles up). It was big enough to swamp every coastal city on the planet if it had hit a deep ocean. >(gnat's whisker, in astronomical terms) that nobody knew > about until three days after. Dunno how big it was, but I > recall the projected explosive force, had it hit, would have > outstripped the total nuclear weapons stocks of the planet by > a very, very large amount. Anything much over a mile wide would destroy civilisation. There are estimated to be at least 2000, and almost certainly a multiple of that, asteroids which cross Earth's orbit. We generally get trashed every 25,000 years or so, and we're about due another one. Of course this is the first time we've ever had the chance to develop technologies which might enable us to detect and prevent a hit. > Carl FoFP From abrevard at SHL.COM Thu Aug 6 09:34:20 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 08:34:20 -0500 Subject: No subject Message-ID: >Twas me who mentioned the Live 1893 album. It must be a different one because the one I have was recorded at Sheffield University on June 9 1983. A bit East from New York! Zeit Thanx Z, will save this. Ghost in the Ruins ----------------------------------------------------- Q: What's the generic name for Viagra? | A: Mycoxafailin | ------------------------------------------------------ From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Thu Aug 6 09:37:59 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 09:37:59 -0400 Subject: HW: Strange Daze 98 questions Message-ID: Captain Cloud wrote: > Yet another question revolves around Sunday night. Apparently > the SD98 ticket covers camping on Fri and Sat but not Sunday. > Will we be allowed to continue camping on Sun nite (for a fee > I assume), or will we have to vacate the park and find a hotel? Good Damned question. If I have to leave directly after the show, I shall be pissed as hell. That would DEFINITELY have a bearing on whether I would attend such things in the future. In fact, If I find that to be the case, I most likely won't go to THIS one, despite the pair of tickets on the desk in front of me. GRRRRR. > Anybody with any answers to the above, before I start bugging > Jim Lasko for an answer? Nope. Please let the Lasko-bugging commence. rj From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Aug 6 11:20:40 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 11:20:40 -0400 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <1209BDB5E0A@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, Ted Jackson jr. s2h2 wrote: > The scariest-looking plane I've ever seen was a B-1 bomber at an air > show a couple years ago. The matte paint job, and the ominous > plackard next to the plane casually telling us that this one plane > could level 30 cities with cruise missiles, the fact that this > relatively-small-looking plane could carry a much larger payload than > a B-52. And the SMG-armed, beret-wearing APs stationed around the > plane to keep spectators from getting too close...Well, it was quite > a sight... I saw the plywood prototype mock-up for the Stealth Fighter, at the SD Air and Space Museum, Ellsworth Air Force Base, Rapid City, SD. Does that count? ;-) (Though, I confess, their B-52 and B-29 struck me as being more impressive.) Cheers, Paul. obCD: Nik Turner, _Past or Future?_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From lansford at VNET.NET Thu Aug 6 11:58:42 1998 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 15:58:42 GMT Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <10C75C903C4@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, "Ted Jackson jr. s2h2" wrote about Armageddon: >I cried quite a few times: mostly during the love scenes bet. Liv >Tyler and Ben Affleck [sp?] I've never seen such poor acting in my >life! And the cliched oedipal competition between Affleck and Bruce >Willis will likely make serious film buffs shed a tear or two. What >a horrible script for such a huge budget! Right up there with Batman >and Robin... I wouldn't go that far. Even I thought about walking out of B&R. (And yes, I found that love scene tedious. But note that I generally find such scenes tedious.) I found the characters believable because I know those characters. The script writers could have lifted most of them right out of my workplace without changing more than the names. I wouldn't ever hold Armageddon to the same standard as, say, the English Patient, not that I've seen the latter. (I just don't like that type of movie.) They're too different. As an action movie, A deserves high marks, and if you enjoy that genre I recommend it. Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net http://users.vnet.net/lansford/ From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Thu Aug 6 12:07:46 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 12:07:46 -0400 Subject: HW: Strange Daze 98 questions Message-ID: sprawl moronically wrote: > > Good Damned question. If I have to leave directly after the show, > I shall be pissed as hell. That would DEFINITELY have a bearing on > whether I would attend such things in the future. In fact, If I find > that to be the case, I most likely won't go to THIS one, despite the > pair of tickets on the desk in front of me. GRRRRR. > > > Anybody with any answers to the above, before I start bugging > > Jim Lasko for an answer? > > Nope. Please let the Lasko-bugging commence. > > rj Oops. Just looked at the schedule. Should have looked before posting. Was thinking the show ended much later in the evening. Guess there's no prob either way then. Sorry, I'm just an excitable boy! rj From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Aug 6 12:18:30 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 12:18:30 EDT Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: From: Paul Mather > I saw the plywood prototype mock-up for the Stealth Fighter, at the SD > Air and Space Museum, Ellsworth Air Force Base, Rapid City, SD. Does > that count? ;-) > > (Though, I confess, their B-52 and B-29 struck me as being more > impressive.) > > Cheers, > > Paul. If you ever get to Pensacola, there's a great Naval aviation museum there, admission is free! Definitely worthwhile... ******************************* theo "...Power in the hands of fools..." From lansford at VNET.NET Thu Aug 6 12:21:32 1998 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 16:21:32 GMT Subject: OFF: summer films In-Reply-To: <2912463.3111330840@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >On ons 5 aug 1998 16.11 +0000 "Jean Lansford" wrote: >> If you liked The Rock you'll like Armageddon. It also reminds me in >> places of Top Gun. > > Eeek! Can't stand Top Gun! Didn't see the Rock. Hmmm, this >is worrying. May simply skip this one. Only in the general sense that you're following the characters through all aspects of an experience, from learning about the asteroid through a minimum of training through actually trying to accomplish what they've been training for. (I didn't care much for Top Gun, either, but I can't think off hand of another of that type of movie.) Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net http://users.vnet.net/lansford/ From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu Aug 6 12:34:44 1998 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 00:34:44 +0800 Subject: Off: More film comments Message-ID: >I too am worried about a treasure being ransacked, but I don't think >Fiennes as Steed will necessarily be a problem...I DO have serious doubts >about Uma Thurman as Mrs. Peel - Diana Rigg she ain't; I also fear that >the humour will be overplayed & overwritten to try and guarantee "laffs" >from the popcorn bucket audience, rather than the wry, genteel and courtly >approach of the original. > I prefer the B&W Emma Peel stories best. They were bizarre, but not too silly. The silliness started to appear when the series went to colour. I also have doubts about Uma Thurman, particularly if her acting is the same as her role of Poison Ivy in the recent Batman film. Emma Peel should be played by someone who is able to show that she can stand on her own two feet. >As for LiS, one of the guys who put it together said that he'd intended to >stay faithful to the original, until he went back and watched the old TV >shows and realised how dire they were - a sentiment I agree with even >though I enjoyed them as a kid! > I had reservations about it originally, especially since most LIS fans I know hated it. I eventually went and saw it and, not being much of a fan of the series (particularly the silly ones), I actually liked it. I came to the conclusion that the fans were dissappointed because it wasn't corny enough. I wonder if the producers have heard the Pressurehead version of the LIS theme, as it is VERY similar to the one in the film (other than the fact that it is the same tune, if you see what I mean)? William From lansford at VNET.NET Thu Aug 6 13:40:56 1998 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 17:40:56 GMT Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Paul Mather wrote: >On Wed, 5 Aug 1998, Jean Lansford wrote: > >> Armageddon is fun and the science is good enough to not bounce most >> people out of the film. NASA was involved in making it. As for > >Funny, I heard the opposite: that _Deep Impact_ had the decent science, >and that _Armageddon_ didn't. Didn't say the science was good, just good enough. 8) IOW, nothing that was so obviously wrong that you stop and say "What the hell?" like, for ex, most of Batman and Robin. That one didn't even do good comic book physics. >One example cited was the spacecraft >used. In _Deep Impact_, they use something big and beefy---like it >could handle a long flight---but in _Armageddon_, they hurtle off in >what look like souped-up space shuttles, which would've run out of juice >long before they reached the thing. Well, they did stop to refuel at Mir.... >Also, the notion that a body "the >size of Texas" could sneak up on the Earth at such short notice is a >little too hard to believe. Not when we can only monitor about 3% of near space. (The number mentioned in A, which I assume they got from NASA.) >Still, the important thing is that New York City gets bashed >spectacularly... ;-) And a major European capital. That was ... impressive. Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net http://users.vnet.net/lansford/ From deadline at CYBERHIGHWAY.NET Thu Aug 6 14:55:08 1998 From: deadline at CYBERHIGHWAY.NET (Aaron Crandall) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 11:55:08 -0700 Subject: OFF: CDClick Message-ID: I just wanted to mention a site that might be of interest to those of you looking for Hawkwind and BOC cds -- this morning a couple of friends and I launched a site called CDClick (www.cdclick.com) that we have been working on for a while. It is a music CD store that searches some of the top Internet music sites and displays the best prices for each CD. It is especially useful for comparing price/availability on imports, etc. Anyway, I haven't registered the site with any search engines yet or done any promotion, and I just wanted to let some of my friends at BOC-L know about it first. If anyone does visit the site I'd appreciate any comments you have! BTW, if you want to see a really LONG list of CDs, just do a search at the site for Hawkwind -- those quys have about a zillion CDs! I might have to give some a try, but I don't know if my pocketbook could handle it if I got hooked! Aaron ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- T h o u g h t s B e f o r e S l e e p Introspective, hauntingly melancholy music..... Come listen to the RealAudio clips! http://www.thoughtsbeforesleep.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Aug 6 15:42:15 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 19:42:15 +0000 Subject: OFF: MAN VS MOOSE! Message-ID: I await the release of a Hawkwind (or, possibly, darXtar) album titled: _Choose your Moose_ ... ;) Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Aug 6 15:02:01 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 15:02:01 -0400 Subject: OFF: MAN VS MOOSE! Message-ID: > I await the release of a Hawkwind (or, possibly, darXtar) >album titled: _Choose your Moose_ ... They have handed out the antlers... and your hide is ready too... So choose your moose and choose the side (of the road) that you'll be on Death to autos! Death to cars! And death to bikes! death to moose! "Help me Rocky! I seem to be on fire!" - one of the MST3K robots, during their treatment of "The Day the Earth Froze", a movie about finnish legends (and made in sweden, IIRC)... And he took the stars in his hands and as he scattered them he'd shout: "I'm the Joker of the Universe! I'm What it's all about!" - "The Great Sun Jester" by Blue ?yster Cult (Eric Bloom, Michael Moorcock) -AAA From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Aug 6 15:44:34 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 20:44:34 +0100 Subject: OFF: MAN VS MOOSE! In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19980806142049.00706070@pop.eunet.no> Message-ID: Just saw this on Ceefax: WANDERING MOOSE LANDS DRIVER IN JAIL A collision with a moose landed a Normwegian driver in hospital then in jail when police found 62lb of hashish stashed in his wrecked car. The crahs happened at Svinesund in Sweden near the Norwegian border when the animal ran out in front of the car. The 35-year-old driver was taken to hospital with minor injuries. When his car was towed to a garage for repairs mechanics discoverd the drug and reported it to the police. - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of christmu at EUNET.NO > Sent: 06 August 1998 13:21 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: OFF: MAN VS MOOSE! > > > This is from a recent local paper, I cracked up when I read it > and just had > to translate this, as I know moose auto-murder has been a heavy subject on > this list in the past. I also put up the story, the dead road-moose pic, > and an account of a drunken Swedish moose on my website. All this in one > hour. Choose your moose. > > Christian > > ( picture at: http://home.eunet.no/~christmu/moose.html ) > > "Don't understand: The Moose will probably use thousands of years to > understand that the automobile is a natural enemy. In 1996, 1142 > moose were > killed or put to death as a result of traffic accidents. The > moose-accidents also take human lives and yearly hurts 100 drivers. The > family that ran into this moose in Hedmark earlier this summer, > came out of > the ordeal mostly unscathed." > > > DON'T GET IT > > "Every year, over 1 000 moose die on the road. 100 drivers are hurt, and > and three are killed. The King of The Forest doesen't have the brains to > stay away." > > THE MOOSE IS NOT AFRAID OF CARS > > (by Gunnar Hagen) > > It can take several thousand years before the moose's instinct registers > that the automobile is a threat, says moose-professor Olav Hjeljord. The > moose is not particularly smart. The sight of speeding cars don't > scare it. > On the other hand, if a jogger comes jogging along the road, the > moose will > run away. Inherited insticts tell the moose that the human is a predator > classed with a wolf or a bear. Cars on the other hand, do not scare it, > says Hjeljord. He is a scientist at Norges landbruksh?gskole [Norway's > agricultural college] and has recently taken a doctorate on moose > and moose > grazing grounds. > > HUMANS KILL MORE > > About 10 000 years ago, after the last Ice Age, the moose arrived in > Norway. Ever since, humans have hunted it. And still we clearly > remain its > greatest enemy. During moose-hunt season, we shoot 30-40 000 > animals, while > the cars "only" kill about 1 000, the trains about 500. Instinct tells the > moose that it has more to fear from humans than automobiles, the > moose-professor says. Today's moose-stock is at about 1 00 000 animals. > > -How long time will the animal use to establish fear of the road? > > Hundreds of years, maybe thousands. The time perspective is not so > interesting - within our future it will remain this way. The > automobile has > been here for 70 years and the moose has not learned. > > "NEVER SAW THE MOOSE" > > -What is the usual reason for moose-collision? > > Often the moose runs parallell to the road for a stretch. It will see the > car, but is unable to gauge the speed and will try to cross in > front of it. > A usual reaction is then: "I never saw the moose". Hjeljord informs that > moose-road-accidents happen year around, but with two peak seasons. In > May/June, when the young calfs are driven away by their parents - and > during winter, when moose congregate in the low lands to graze around > trafficked roads. The heaviest versions of The King of The Forest > can weigh > over half a ton. On its long thin legs, the moose is a potential > traffic bomb. > > FAILED EFFORTS > > Vegdirektoratet [the road dept.] have attempted several ideas, > most of them > failing: Large sums were spent on German poles [no pun intended!] with > reflectives that looked like eyes of predators. These were to be lit up by > the approaching cars' headlights. A waste of money, says Hjeljord. > High-frequency sounds on test cars have not been effective. Odor-bags of > urine from wolf and bear have not been effective either. Clear roads and > better lighting however have helped to an extent. > > -Now fences are being put up on all new highways. It will help, but will > have a significant negative consequence that moose stocks are stopped and > grazing grounds isolated, says Olav Hjeljord. > From christmu at EUNET.NO Thu Aug 6 16:14:25 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 22:14:25 +0200 Subject: OFF: rerun: Choose Your Moose Message-ID: Ahh, how quickly they forget. Here's an old BOC-L post of mine from around the the first great Moose Mania (all praise the BOC-L archives): >>At 10:48 09.09.97 -0400, Andrew A. Apold wrote:> >Okay, that does it. We need to write a moose song. First off I suggest we change the mailing list to MOOSE-L. Divided into subjects of the American, African and European Moose (there is a difference - the african moose is a camel and can carry a medium sized coconut suspended between its two large tumors by a very thin straw..). All this because my brother got run over by a golf-cart riding Swedish m??se on its way over to theo's house to play golf. And Jon losing that ?20 prize on TV. Here's my song: CHOOSE YOUR MOOSE (Marty/Bullwinkle) They have handed out the golfballs and your Volvo's ready too But the most important item has been left up to you You must hit it with precision and once it's hit you'll find That the moose which you have chosen Shall be flattened from behind For the moose you have selected Stands for dinner and is raw But you cannot cook it all now you ain't hungry anymore Choose your moose a golf game's forming Choose your moose the dinner's warming Choose your mooseand choose the ride which you'll be on And learn the words of your new song for the golf game will be long ---Christian From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Aug 6 16:25:10 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 16:25:10 -0400 Subject: OFF: MAN VS MOOSE! Message-ID: >Just saw this on Ceefax: > >WANDERING MOOSE LANDS DRIVER IN JAIL > >A collision with a moose landed a Normwegian driver in hospital then in jail >when police found 62lb of hashish stashed in his wrecked car. > >The crahs happened at Svinesund in Sweden near the Norwegian border when the >animal ran out in front of the car. > >The 35-year-old driver was taken to hospital with minor injuries. > >When his car was towed to a garage for repairs mechanics discoverd the drug >and reported it to the police. The guy probably tried to run with the stash and the local crime figures sent a hit moose to deal with him. And he took the stars in his hands and as he scattered them he'd shout: "I'm the Joker of the Universe! I'm What it's all about!" - "The Great Sun Jester" by Blue ?yster Cult (Eric Bloom, Michael Moorcock) -AAA From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Aug 6 16:01:04 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 21:01:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <329A5258416CD111928F006008A62C7635315D@bpxsv.156.106.206.i n-addr.arpa> Message-ID: At 16:10 05/08/98 -0400, you wrote: >Carl said: > >> Still, the A-10 is my fave. Low, slow, and heavy-hitting. >>The Kyuss of Airplanes! >> >> I think I just like lo-tech thunder :) > I'm still trying to get my "Squadron Commander" joystick to work properly with "Silent Thunder - A-10 Tank Killer 2" :-{(> Does anybody know how to get one of those things programmed properly? Chris"Desert-Pizza"W Free your mind & watch your ass! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Aug 6 15:27:57 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 20:27:57 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <3391362.3111338802@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 20:46 05/08/98 +0000, you wrote: >On ons 5 aug 1998 20.14 +0100 "Chris Warburton" >wrote: >> At 19:53 05/08/98 +0000, you wrote: >>>On ons 5 aug 1998 19.28 +0100 "Andy Gilham" >>>wrote:> ObCD: Eliza Carthy - _Red Rice_ >>> >>> Uh oh! Distressing trend, Andy! First the Kathryn Ticknell >>>CD, and now this ... ;) >>> >>>-- >>>Carl Edlund Anderson >> >> You've obviously never seen Ms. Tickell grappling with a set of >Northumbrian >> pipes 8-{P> > > Quite the opposite :) I'm the folk fan taking the non-tradding >Mr. Gilham to task for his out of character music ;) > >Cheers, >Carl Nice to know I'm not alone... "Space-Folk" nominations anybody? How about John Martyn/Live At Leeds or Afro-Celt Sound System/Volume One Hey-nonny-ChrisW ObCD:King Crimson/Epitaph Disc 3 Free your mind & watch your ass! From stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM Thu Aug 6 17:37:57 1998 From: stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 17:37:57 -0400 Subject: HW: Strange Daze 98 questions Message-ID: > > Captain Cloud wrote: > > Yet another question revolves around Sunday night. Apparently > > the SD98 ticket covers camping on Fri and Sat but not Sunday. > > Will we be allowed to continue camping on Sun nite (for a fee > > I assume), or will we have to vacate the park and find a hotel? > > Anybody with any answers to the above, before I start bugging > > Jim Lasko for an answer? > > Well I can't quite remember where I read it, but I'm pretty damn sure I read somewhere that you can stay Sunday, you've just got to pay for the extra camping night. I mean it is a campsite ... But then if I'm wrong .... Any good rumours ? Lemmy's dog might show up ;-) Looking forward to it ! (Anybody know anthing about 'Kid from Cleveland' ?) See ya, Steve L. From johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM Thu Aug 6 18:22:27 1998 From: johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 00:22:27 +0200 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: At 20:57 1998-08-05 +0000, you wrote: >On ons 5 aug 1998 14.42 -0400 "brian halligan" wrote: >> Carl, you may not go for the F-15 or F-16, but what about the new F-22 >> or the new Swedish Saab-built fighter? Speed, kill power, and stealth >> all wrapped up in one... Jets worthy of a tribute from BOC! > > Well, the stealth planes I've seen look pretty smart--very >sci-fi. Saw one fly over Boston a year or so ago and it looked >pretty snazzy. Saab has a new fighter? This is news to me--I've >not kept on on recent developments as well as I might! The >other Saabs were pretty cool. I liked the Harrier as well :) that new Saab fighter must be the infamous JAS 39 Gripen, that made a spectacular dive in the ground in central Stockholm a few Water Festivals ago. There were at least 200.000 people watching the show, and just one woman was injured. Swedish Air Force is not longer doing shows at large festivals. >Cheers, >Carl best -joe From johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM Thu Aug 6 18:22:30 1998 From: johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 00:22:30 +0200 Subject: HW: Business Trip Message-ID: >Both digipak & jewel case versions were released in the U.K & the USA as >well as on vinyl. > >Digipak U.K EBSSCD 111, USA GCD-279-2 >Jewel case U.K EBSCD 111, USA GCD-280-2 >Vinyl U.K EBSLP 111, USA GCD280-1 > >The digipak and vinyl releases are, I believe, identical as they carry >both catalogue numbers. >The jewel case releases, apart from having the booklet mentioned above, >which by the way is identical in both releases, has slightly different >artwork on the front. The discs are also different. The U.K release is a >plain silver disc with black and purple printing whereas the USA release >has the "standard" doremi shield printed on it in common with most Griffin >releases. > >To view the artwork differences take a look at >http://home.clara.net/adawson/bus-trip.html > >Andy both vinyl and digipak was manufacured in Europe, and just distrubuted by Griffin in the US. The jewel cases is two different releases. best -joe From johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM Thu Aug 6 18:22:29 1998 From: johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 00:22:29 +0200 Subject: BOC: Jeopardy Message-ID: At 04:37 1998-08-06 +0000, you wrote: >> I'll take "Death in Pop for $300 Alex. >> >> Answer: Blue Oyster Cult told us not to fear him. >> >> Question: The Reaper >> >> This appeared on Jeopardy last night (8/4). > remember a headline on the sports side in one of Sweden's tabloid papers during the recent World Championships of Soccer. The evening before had the fantastic match between Brazil and Denmark, Brazil wod 3 to 2, but the Denmark defender Marc Rieper had a few chances to tie in the end. the next day that excellent headline told us: Don't Fear the Rieper > >-- Nick -joe From hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM Thu Aug 6 18:39:17 1998 From: hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM (Randy) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 17:39:17 -0500 Subject: HW: Strange Daze 98 questions In-Reply-To: <35C90E89.98D83AC@palmnet.net> Message-ID: Captain Cloud wrote: >Yet another question revolves around Sunday night. Apparently >the SD98 ticket covers camping on Fri and Sat but not Sunday. >Will we be allowed to continue camping on Sun nite (for a fee >I assume), or will we have to vacate the park and find a hotel? I heard from Jim and he tells me you can stay after the festival, you just have to make arrangements with the campground Sunday evening for the extra nights. They said you can do this. I think it's $8 per person, per night. Randy From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Aug 6 19:51:43 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 23:51:43 +0000 Subject: OFF: Choose Your Moose Message-ID: I have hazy (*very* hazy) recollections of a running joke about "flyganda ?lger" during week-long "drinking tour of Sweden" Uppsala University provided me with last May. As I recall, a theory was developed that these "flying moose" were small, black, two dimensional creatures ... I forget exactly why they were flying, but it seemed appropriate in context. Cheers, Carl ps - of course, it is possible these were simply mygg ... no, no: mygg are larger and three dimesional ... -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Aug 6 19:58:50 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 23:58:50 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: On tor 6 aug 1998 20.27 +0100 "Chris Warburton" wrote: > Nice to know I'm not alone... "Space-Folk" nominations anybody? > How about John Martyn/Live At Leeds or Afro-Celt Sound System/Volume One Well, I did my best with my own demo tape (see web page). OK, a bit more space-rocky than folky, but some folk influences hidden on it anyway. Before my own demo tape, my (extremely dodgy) band recorded a 5 song sampler titled _Heavy Celtic Space Punk_ ;) Some of the songs might have been very good if they had been played by musicians ;) As it is, however .... Some day, I will get access to recording facilities, and then I'm going to have *FUN* .... :) Cheers, Carl ps - the Levellers occasionally tinge on space-folk :) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Aug 6 20:00:09 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 00:00:09 +0000 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: On fre 7 aug 1998 00.22 +0200 "Johan Edlundh" wrote: > that new Saab fighter must be the infamous JAS 39 Gripen, that made a > spectacular dive in the ground in central Stockholm a few Water Festivals ago. > There were at least 200.000 people watching the show, and just one woman was > injured. Swedish Air Force is not longer doing shows at large festivals. Hmmm. Maybe that's why I have not heard about it ;) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Thu Aug 6 18:56:46 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 18:56:46 -0400 Subject: BOC: MP3s of _The Thing!_ Message-ID: Here is another batch of MPEG Layer 3 audio files culled from BOC-L related CD bootlegs. This time, it's Blue Oyster Cult's _The Thing!_ 2CD set, recorded live at "Bands International," 18th June, 1981, New York City. The sound quality of this bootleg is pretty good, though it sounds to me like the CD was mastered from vinyl, since you can hear the clicks and pops. (Another clue is the vinyl-length CDs.) The setlist is great. Once again, these files are compressed using l3enc on a Sun Sparc Ultra with a 128 Kbit/s bitrate. The resultant MPEG audio files can be downloaded via anonymous ftp from gromit.dlib.vt.edu in directory /pub/boc-l/audio/the_thing. There are two subdirectories under there--- disc1 and disc2----which contain the actual files. Alternatively, point your WWW browsers at: ftp://gromit.dlib.vt.edu/pub/boc-l/audio/the_thing/disc1/ ftp://gromit.dlib.vt.edu/pub/boc-l/audio/the_thing/disc2/ Here is the info for the two subdirectories: >>>>> This directory contains MPEG Layer 3 audio files for CD 1 of the 2CD Blue Oyster Cult bootleg, _The Thing!_, recorded live at "Bands International," 18th June, 1981, New York City. The audio has been compressed at a 128 Kbit/s bitrate. The tracks are as follows: Track Time Size(K) Contents =============== ===== ==== ======== track_1.l3-128k 4:20 4072 Dr. Music track_2.l3-128k 5:21 5024 E.T.I. track_3.l3-128k 4:27 4192 Burning For You track_4.l3-128k 5:00 4704 Fire Of Unknown Origin track_5.l3-128k 5:13 4904 Cities On Flame With Rock and Roll track_6.l3-128k 5:17 4968 Joan Crawford track_7.l3-128k 6:52 6448 Flaming Telepaths track_8.l3-128k 4:57 4664 Veteran of the Psychic Wars track_9.l3-128k 5:09 4832 Hot Rails to Hell <<<<< >>>>> This directory contains MPEG Layer 3 audio files for CD 2 of the 2CD Blue Oyster Cult bootleg, _The Thing!_, recorded live at "Bands International," 18th June, 1981, New York City. The audio has been compressed at a 128 Kbit/s bitrate. The tracks are as follows: Track Time Size(K) Contents =============== ===== ===== ======== track_1.l3-128k 4:08 3896 ME262 track_2.l3-128k 4:12 3960 Heavy Metal track_3.l3-128k 7:29 7024 (Don't Fear) The Reaper track_4.l3-128k 11:12 10528 Godzilla / Drum Solo track_5.l3-128k 6:32 6144 Born to Be Wild track_6.l3-128k 5:30 5168 Bass solo / 5 Man Guitar Jam track_7.l3-128k 6:43 4776 Roadhouse Blues <<<<< Once again, feel free to download these, but please don't link to them from WWW pages, because I don't want them indexed by search engines. Cheers, Paul. obCD: Ash Ra Tempel, _Schwingungen/Seven Up_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Aug 6 19:23:54 1998 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 16:23:54 -0700 Subject: Space Folk (was: OFF: UK Charts) Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Aug 1998 20:27:57 +0100, Chris Warburton opined: >Nice to know I'm not alone... "Space-Folk" nominations anybody? >How about John Martyn/Live At Leeds or Afro-Celt Sound System/Volume One let's see, here's some older stuff ... Linda Cohen (classical guitarist accompanied by electronics-wizard hubby Craig Anderton) Danish "Krautrock" band Emtidi ("Don't sit on the grass if it's too wet for your ass") Swedish "Krautrock" band Algarnas Traadgard (great violin on this one) Stone Harbor, from Youngstown, OH had a couple great acoustic guitar + Moog pieces on their sole LP How's that for a start? -Doug ceres at sirius.com From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Thu Aug 6 20:29:16 1998 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 20:29:16 EDT Subject: HW: Strange Daze 98 questions Message-ID: Lemmy's dog...that should be interesting... from what i understand Nash the Slash isnt going to be at SD98 i've not only included as much up to date info as possible on my website about SD98 but have posted the latest Time & Space newsletter there... http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html obviously you can also visit Strange trips website to get the same info bob In a message dated 98-08-06 17:42:35 EDT, you write: << Well I can't quite remember where I read it, but I'm pretty damn sure I read somewhere that you can stay Sunday, you've just got to pay for the extra camping night. I mean it is a campsite ... But then if I'm wrong .... Any good rumours ? Lemmy's dog might show up ;-) Looking forward to it ! (Anybody know anthing about 'Kid from Cleveland' ?) See ya, Steve L. >> From inhaler at U.WASHINGTON.EDU Thu Aug 6 21:39:35 1998 From: inhaler at U.WASHINGTON.EDU (Peter Worley) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 18:39:35 -0700 Subject: BOC Setlist, 8/2, Spokane WA Message-ID: Here's the setlist from the show. Review to follow. Burnin' For You Cities on Flame (With Rock & Roll) E.T.I. Harvest Moon Buck's Boogie O.D.'d on Life Itself The Vigil Live For Me Flaming Telepaths See You In Black In Thee (Drumless version) Lips in the Hills Godzilla Don't Fear The Reaper Encore: Dominance & Submission The Red & The Black -- Peter William Worley inhaler at u.washington.edu From inhaler at U.WASHINGTON.EDU Thu Aug 6 22:12:59 1998 From: inhaler at U.WASHINGTON.EDU (Peter Worley) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 19:12:59 -0700 Subject: BOC Review, 8/2, Spokane WA Message-ID: The show was at Swackhammer's, a restaurant/club, with the band set up on the stage in front of the old dance floor, which was covered with tables. We (several friends and I) were sitting about halfway back, to one side, and had a good view of the show. 90 degrees outside, but inside was OK, in t-shirt and shorts. The overall atmosphere was great; our waitress (Jackie) was a hot little number with longish black hair, pretty face and eyes, a great rack, and a nice bod. I was hanging out in Spokane, drinking beer with friends I grew up with, about to see my favorite band play, and I also ran into a college buddy I hadn't seen in years. Talk about psyched. The opening act, The Perones played a pretty good set - energetic, lots of covers of classic rock tunes. I was sure I'd seen them before, but I don't remember where. Anyhow, they did a great job of getting the crowd up for the Oyster Boys. BOC surprised me by opening with Burnin' For You instead of Stairway to the Stars, Allen playing guitar and ripping it up - much more animated than usual, he played a great solo. Next, they surprised me again with an energetic Cities on Flame, getting me (and the rest of the crowd) psyched up even more. Finally they introduced themselves, before playing E.T.I. (note from friend Jay Schatz: It's awesome). Buck's Boogie was next, and the excitement kept building and building (note from Schatz: Best solo since goat-von-goat [as you may have guessed, Jay was a bit messed up]). (Also, at this point, I was asked to screw in the light bulb above our table, which I had unscrewed 'cause it was too bright - couldn't dampen my mood, however.) They then slowed it down just a bit, playing O.D.'d on Life Itself, one of my favorite BOC tunes (note from Schatz: "Buck Dharma - best guitarist except for Jimmy Page and Howe, including performances by Aerosmith, Rush, The Who, Scorpions, Pearl Jam, etc. etc. etc.") [oops, I hope I don't start another Rush flame war]. Then, during The Vigil (another fave of mine), I was asked not to take photos (of the band, that is - they let me take as many flash photos of my friends and I as I wanted). No prob, the roll was almost done by then. Another new tune then, Live For Me - great sound, I just love that tune. During Flaming Telepaths, Schatz ordered a round of "Screaming Nazi's" (or rather Jay's version, "Screaming Schatzi's" - 1/2 Jaegermeister, 1/2 Goldschlager). So by the time they played Lips in the Hills, I was pretty much wasted, but it was _kick ass_. After Godzilla and DFTR, I went over to talk to my old buddy Pete, who I hadn't seen in 5 years or so, and marvelled at how BOC can bring people together. The encore wasn't too much of surprise (D&S and Red & Black), but it was still kick ass. The crowd was great, and the band seemed to pick up on the crowd's energy (which they picked up from the band). Overall, I'd have to say it's the best BOC concert I've been to (5 total); of course it's the drunkest I've ever been at a BOC concert, but what was best about it was the atmosphere, the friends I was with, and the energy the band played with. -- Peter William Worley inhaler at u.washington.edu From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Aug 6 22:21:31 1998 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 22:21:31 EDT Subject: STANGE DAZE 98 Message-ID: Who's coming from Europe? regards, Bill Stewart From sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU Thu Aug 6 23:05:39 1998 From: sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 13:05:39 +1000 Subject: HW: what's up? Message-ID: On 6 Aug 98, at 13:14, Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > Not EBS then? > Do we know anything about the character of this new album? All that Dave said when I asked what to expect on the album was "New Songs", followed by a laugh .... S. From s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Fri Aug 7 16:59:49 1998 From: s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Patrick Cordiner) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 13:59:49 PDT Subject: HW: Business Trip In-Reply-To: <199808051611.MAA05003@in.flite.net> Message-ID: > My version of The Business Trip was not in a jewel > case, it was a cardboard case with flip open panels. > A recent conversation lead me to believe it is also > available in a jewel case. > > Is there any difference between the cds from the two > forms of packaging? (Don't know the label for the > other, but mine is EBS.) > No, the tracks are identical, because I've got the cardboard case as well (a waste if you ask me cause it gets crushed and bent in under 6 months) and Max Wilcox has the other one. Patrick From s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Fri Aug 7 17:12:14 1998 From: s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Patrick Cordiner) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 14:12:14 PDT Subject: HW:End of Time Message-ID: Has anyone got the illustrated Moorcock's `Elric at the end of time' and seen the double page picture of a very familiar-looking space rock band? Patrick From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Fri Aug 7 01:16:30 1998 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 15:16:30 +1000 Subject: HW: Business Trip In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Quoth Patrick Cordiner:- > No, the tracks are identical, because I've got the cardboard case > as well (a waste if you ask me cause it gets crushed and bent in > under 6 months) and Max Wilcox has the other one. Yes, Patrick, I most certainly do have that one - and mine's in much better condition that yours. But then again, a crappy case is much better than a broken Space Bandits CD, but we won't mention anything about that... Any by the way, let me formally welcome Patrick, the second Brisbane Hawkfan to the list. Or at least, second Brisbane Hawk-fan that's been on the list in the past three years, anyway. Toodle-pip. - Max From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Fri Aug 7 03:25:43 1998 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff and Pam Wheaton) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 01:25:43 -0600 Subject: Space Folk (was: OFF: UK Charts) Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: > On Thu, 6 Aug 1998 20:27:57 +0100, Chris Warburton > opined: > > >Nice to know I'm not alone... "Space-Folk" nominations anybody? > >How about John Martyn/Live At Leeds or Afro-Celt Sound System/Volume One > > let's see, here's some older stuff ... > > Linda Cohen (classical guitarist accompanied by electronics-wizard hubby > Craig Anderton) > Danish "Krautrock" band Emtidi ("Don't sit on the grass if it's too wet for > your ass") > Swedish "Krautrock" band Algarnas Traadgard (great violin on this one) > Stone Harbor, from Youngstown, OH had a couple great acoustic guitar + Moog > pieces on their sole LP Uhoh-my wallet just twinged-these sound downright yummy! I'm afraid my contribution is naught but this on an intersting thread!!Rock on! Pam > > > How's that for a start? > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton ____/----^----\____ The greatest tool Message-ID: Don't know about space-folk, but the _other_ folk album I have is by the aforementioned Shooglenifty, a Scottish six-piece who describe their style as "acid croft". I saw them in Budapest, with an audience of uncomprehending Magyars and four Brits - and by the end everyone was dancing (well thrashing about spasmically in my case) - they were great! Then they played the Swan at Stockwell and I missed them - c'est la vie. On the back of their live album, which is on Peter Gabriel's "Real World" label, it says "Shooglenifty re-invent tradition with a party-full of roots tunes for the dance floor", which is about right. One of their numbers is called "Venus in Tweeds". - Andy ObCD: Shooglenifty - _Live at Selwyn Hall, Box_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Doug Pearson > Sent: 07 August 1998 00:24 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Space Folk (was: OFF: UK Charts) > > > On Thu, 6 Aug 1998 20:27:57 +0100, Chris Warburton > opined: > > >Nice to know I'm not alone... "Space-Folk" nominations anybody? > >How about John Martyn/Live At Leeds or Afro-Celt Sound System/Volume One > > let's see, here's some older stuff ... > > Linda Cohen (classical guitarist accompanied by electronics-wizard hubby > Craig Anderton) > Danish "Krautrock" band Emtidi ("Don't sit on the grass if it's > too wet for > your ass") > Swedish "Krautrock" band Algarnas Traadgard (great violin on this one) > Stone Harbor, from Youngstown, OH had a couple great acoustic > guitar + Moog > pieces on their sole LP > > How's that for a start? > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Fri Aug 7 00:41:34 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 04:41:34 +0000 Subject: OFF: Space Lord Message-ID: Just a little info for anyone who wants it... Space Lord is really kicking ass on alternative radio...no idea how it's doing rock-wise. I'm really loving this song, although it's the only Monster Magnet tune I've ever heard. Apparently, MM were the musical guests on Conan O'Brien Thursday night. Anybody see it? If not, and you happen to know somebody who tapes Conan (do such people exist?), you might want to give them a call. -- Nick From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Fri Aug 7 00:41:34 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 04:41:34 +0000 Subject: BOC: References Message-ID: While we've been on the subject of BOC references...does anybody remember that car commercial not too long ago that mentions "dreaming about jamming with Blue Oyster Cult" when you were younger? What kinda car was that ad for? Also, I think this has been talked about in the not-too-distant past, but did everybody see "The Stoned Age"? Whad'ya think? I loved all the BOC...but I really thought the movie was piss-poor. I have to admit, though, my eyes popped out of their sockets when I saw Buck and Eric (pre-head shave) hawking bootleg T's. That scene was the only reason I kept this one on tape. On a personal note, some advice for Eric: You're one of the most killer frontmen in rock, but you need acting lessons! -- Nick From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Fri Aug 7 00:41:34 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 04:41:34 +0000 Subject: BOC: Jeopardy Message-ID: > remember a headline on the sports side in one of Sweden's tabloid papers > during the recent World Championships of Soccer. The evening before had the > fantastic match between Brazil and Denmark, Brazil wod 3 to 2, but the > Denmark defender Marc Rieper had a few chances to tie in the end. > > the next day that excellent headline told us: > Don't Fear the Rieper A couple years ago, Chris Berman, that guy on ESPN who goofs with everybody's name, twisted somebody's name into Blue Oyster Something-or-other...Kinda sounded like "cult", but I can't remember who he was talking about, or what the exact pun was. -- Nick From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Fri Aug 7 04:45:40 1998 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Rich Lockwood) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:45:40 +0100 Subject: Space Folk (was: OFF: UK Charts) Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: > On Thu, 6 Aug 1998 20:27:57 +0100, Chris Warburton > opined: > > >Nice to know I'm not alone... "Space-Folk" nominations anybody? > >How about John Martyn/Live At Leeds or Afro-Celt Sound System/Volume One > > let's see, here's some older stuff ... > > Linda Cohen (classical guitarist accompanied by electronics-wizard hubby > Craig Anderton) > Danish "Krautrock" band Emtidi ("Don't sit on the grass if it's too wet for > your ass") > Swedish "Krautrock" band Algarnas Traadgard (great violin on this one) > Stone Harbor, from Youngstown, OH had a couple great acoustic guitar + Moog > pieces on their sole LP > > How's that for a start? > > -Doug > ceres at sirius.com > Can I continue by throwing You Slosh and Ed Allein Johnson (sp?) into this? Recommend EAJ's "Purple Electric Violin Concerto" (or something). All recorded in one take. Scary. Cheers, Rich. ** "Mind the oranges, Marlon!" ** From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Aug 7 04:46:41 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:46:41 +0100 Subject: BOC: References In-Reply-To: <199808070837.EAA27383@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: > > While we've been on the subject of BOC references...does anybody > remember that car commercial not too long ago that mentions "dreaming > about jamming with Blue Oyster Cult" when you were younger? What > kinda car was that ad for? > RTFAQ, man :) And I know I've mentioned this before, but in one episode of _I'm Alan Partridge_, after Alan hands over to a colleague on Radio Norwich, said colleague is heard announcing, "and now here's Blue Oyster Cult, from their album _Agents of Fortune_!" But we don't get to hear any of it. (We *do* however get to hear Alan singing along to Steeleye Span's "Gaudete" in the car.) - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Aug 6 08:28:09 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 13:28:09 +0100 Subject: A-10 Re: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <164343.3111389479@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <164343.3111389479 at cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk>, Carl Edlund Anderson writes >(Actually >saw the big Traveller encampment at Stonehenge back then, though had >no idea what the heck it was!) Mayhem! -- Jon From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Fri Aug 7 05:00:13 1998 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:00:13 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 06 Aug 1998 20:27:57 BST." <3.0.5.32.19980806202757.00824840@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: > >>>On ons 5 aug 1998 19.28 +0100 "Andy Gilham" > >>>wrote:> ObCD: Eliza Carthy - _Red Rice_ > >>> > >>> Uh oh! Distressing trend, Andy! First the Kathryn Ticknell > >>>CD, and now this ... ;) > >>> > > Quite the opposite :) I'm the folk fan taking the non-tradding > >Mr. Gilham to task for his out of character music ;) I've been avoiding this thread, since its about some hippy chick fiddle player (when _surely_ Vanessa M is all anyone could ever possibly require :) Anyway - > Nice to know I'm not alone... "Space-Folk" nominations anybody? > How about John Martyn/Live At Leeds or Afro-Celt Sound System/Volume One Afro Celt Sound System - now yer talking! In fact, there's a dose of this on my boc-l swap tape, out there somewhere... Tim ObCD: Tortoise, _TNT_ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Aug 7 05:22:34 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:22:34 +0100 Subject: OFF: UK Charts In-Reply-To: <199808070900.KAA19201@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: > I've been avoiding this thread, since its about some hippy chick fiddle > player (when _surely_ Vanessa M is all anyone could ever possibly > require :) "Wet T-shirt violinist", as (I think it was) Time Out described her... > ObCD: Tortoise, _TNT_ There've been rave reviews a-plenty for this, which is often enough for me but not always, so what's it like? - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Fri Aug 7 05:42:23 1998 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:42:23 +0100 Subject: HW:End of Time In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Aug 1998, Patrick Cordiner wrote: > Has anyone got the illustrated Moorcock's `Elric at the end of time' >and seen the double page picture of a very familiar-looking space rock >band? > Is this the mainly blue one with a bottle of whiskey on stage, and the wierd alien playing a double sax? If so then it is definitely not Hawkwind, despite looking like them, cos when I asked Rodney Matthews if it was them he said no, and said he knew nothing about HW so any similarity is purely by chance. It it isn't that RM piccy then I take it all back. Mike w From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 7 05:45:40 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:45:40 +0100 Subject: OFF: MAN VS MOOSE! In-Reply-To: Carl Edlund Anderson's message of Thu, 6 Aug 1998 19:42:15 +0000 Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > I await the release of a Hawkwind (or, possibly, darXtar) > album titled: _Choose your Moose_ ... See also the new Moosters of the Universe compilation with the tracklist: The Beast of Chaos Black Elk Speaks The Demented Moose Goat Willow Let Barking Moose Lie Life Form Night of the Moose Steppenmoose Trans Dimensional Moose Watching the Grass Grow Window Pine Antlers of Death Deer Rider From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 7 05:51:46 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:51:46 +0100 Subject: HW:End of Time In-Reply-To: M S Wright's message of Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:42:23 +0100 Message-ID: M S Wright writes: > If so then it is definitely not Hawkwind, despite looking like them, cos > when I asked Rodney Matthews if it was them he said no, and said he knew > nothing about HW so any similarity is purely by chance. Hmmmm. I've read a Matthews interview where he said that what he really wanted to do was a Hawkwind stage set. This was yeras & years ago so it seems unlikely that he'd never heard of them. > Mike w FoFP From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Fri Aug 7 05:57:18 1998 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:57:18 +0100 Subject: Space Folk (was: OFF: UK Charts) In-Reply-To: <000001bdc1dc$c196e6e0$b83f63c3@default> Message-ID: At 09:24 07/08/98 +0100, Andy Gilham wrote: >Don't know about space-folk, but the _other_ folk album I have is by the >aforementioned Shooglenifty, a Scottish six-piece who describe their style >as "acid croft". I haven't heard that band, but I do recommend Martyn Bennett's "Bothy Culture". This mixes folk tunes with "dance" beats, using a fair range of instruments and styles. It makes excellent driving music for the Highlands! Dave. Harlequin Ltd., Lismore House, 127 George St, Edinburgh, EH2 4JN, UK. Tel: +44 131 240 6106. From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Fri Aug 7 06:12:28 1998 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 11:12:28 +0100 Subject: HW:End of Time In-Reply-To: <199808070951.KAA19948@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Aug 1998, M Holmes wrote: > M S Wright writes: > > > If so then it is definitely not Hawkwind, despite looking like them, cos > > when I asked Rodney Matthews if it was them he said no, and said he knew > > nothing about HW so any similarity is purely by chance. > > Hmmmm. I've read a Matthews interview where he said that what he really > wanted to do was a Hawkwind stage set. This was yeras & years ago so it > seems unlikely that he'd never heard of them. > OK, maybe I should have said, didn't know what they looked like (to draw). M From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Aug 7 08:00:34 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 12:00:34 +0000 Subject: OFF: MAN VS MOOSE! Message-ID: Moose of Morning? Mooseglum? And, of course, classic BOC track "Seven Screaming Moosebusters" ;) -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Aug 7 07:04:22 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 12:04:22 +0100 Subject: OFF: MAN VS MOOSE! In-Reply-To: <73312.3111480034@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: Oh come on. "The Wizard Blew his Moose". - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From pn013 at LAMP.AC.UK Fri Aug 7 08:08:44 1998 From: pn013 at LAMP.AC.UK (THE CIDER KING) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 12:08:44 GMT Subject: OFF The Avengers cast list Message-ID: I've heard that The Avengers has also got Shaun Ryder and Eddy Izzard in it. They are Sean Connery's henchmen and in the first cut they were rumoured to havestolen the film. I think I'll go and see it just for the perfomances of those two. Cheers, Martin "And when the party's over, It's all over" - Blue Oyster Cult From pn013 at LAMP.AC.UK Fri Aug 7 08:27:42 1998 From: pn013 at LAMP.AC.UK (THE CIDER KING) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 12:27:42 GMT Subject: OFF - Big nasty planes Message-ID: About the comment that the B2 was the scariest aircraft someone had seen. When I was younger I used to live with the bottom of my garden backing onto a RAF camp, and they had one airshow there where they had a Vulcan bomber turn up and do some manoevres. One of these was (and I'm sure it was pretty illegal as was way too low for flying over a residential area) to stand on end and go straight up right over where I was standing in my garden. The noise was HUGE. A big warbird with a loud loud loud cry. It was an amazing sight. Incidentally the Red Arrows once shook the house so badly that part of the inside of our chimney clattered down into the lounge. Cheers, Martin "And when the party's over, It's all over" - Blue Oyster Cult From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Aug 7 07:54:08 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 07:54:08 EDT Subject: OFF - Big nasty planes In-Reply-To: <98080712274277@lamp.ac.uk> Message-ID: > From: THE CIDER KING > About the comment that the B2 was the scariest aircraft someone had seen. > When I was younger I used to live with the bottom of my garden backing > onto a RAF camp, and they had one airshow there where they had a Vulcan > bomber turn up and do some manoevres. One of these was (and I'm sure it was > pretty illegal as was way too low for flying over a residential area) to stand > on end and go straight up right over where I was standing in my garden. The > noise was HUGE. A big warbird with a loud loud loud cry. It was an amazing > sight. > Incidentally the Red Arrows once shook the house so badly that part of the > inside of our chimney clattered down into the lounge. The B1 looks a bit like a Vulcan... From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Aug 7 08:29:37 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 08:29:37 -0400 Subject: OFF: MAN VS MOOSE! Message-ID: >Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > >> I await the release of a Hawkwind (or, possibly, darXtar) >> album titled: _Choose your Moose_ ... >Steppenmoose My personal favorite (everyone knows that "astounding sounds" is a reference to the haunting (american) moose call, if you've heard it you know what I mean....) ...I am a moose-man The man in me would kill the moose I am a man-moose The moose in me would kill my car I am a moose-man Also good: Moosgnu (moose with golden antlers) side note - complete coincidence, and unplanned, some how I ended up in a gamma world game, with one person playing a mutant moose. Had nothing to do with boc-l, someone else was playing a mutant flying squirrel. And he took the stars in his hands and as he scattered them he'd shout: "I'm the Joker of the Universe! I'm What it's all about!" - "The Great Sun Jester" by Blue ?yster Cult (Eric Bloom, Michael Moorcock) -AAA From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Aug 7 08:29:39 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 08:29:39 -0400 Subject: OFF - Big nasty planes Message-ID: >About the comment that the B2 was the scariest aircraft someone had seen. I somehow found myself in Panama for christmas in 1989 just in time to be there during Operation Just Cause. Right before everything started going crazy, a lot of helicopters flew overhead a party I was at, no lights but you could make out a (fairly quiet) noise and sillouhettes against the night sky. Rather creepy. Most were some type of helicopter, I think. There were a lot of them. anyways, that was somewhat impressive. And he took the stars in his hands and as he scattered them he'd shout: "I'm the Joker of the Universe! I'm What it's all about!" - "The Great Sun Jester" by Blue ?yster Cult (Eric Bloom, Michael Moorcock) -AAA From sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU Fri Aug 7 08:38:06 1998 From: sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 22:38:06 +1000 Subject: HW: Psychedelic Warrior in cloth bag Message-ID: Greetings all, Stephan Spiegel (he of the red corvette with the Hawkwind license plate in the Earth Ritual Tour booklet) has gotten his mitts on a dozen or so copies of the Griffin "Psychedelic Warriors" comp in the cloth bag. If you need a copy he's sitting in his country estate waiting for your call :-) Please mail Stpehan directly on spiegel at intplsrv.net if interested. He's also on the prowl for bootlegs, so I'd say a trade would suit him well .... Soniqu? -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique / \( o`-, ----- may sonique at mail.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they UIN #14292706 on ICQ /////// : ; --- Fly! From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Fri Aug 7 09:02:06 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:02:06 -0400 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: joe said: >that new Saab fighter must be the infamous JAS 39 Gripen, that made a >spectacular dive in the ground in central Stockholm a few Water Festivals ago. >There were at least 200.000 people watching the show, and just one woman was >injured. Swedish Air Force is not longer doing shows at large festivals. That's the one. You know, it's funny, but the Gripen on my screen saver is flying in a flat spin. I guess they shouldn't expect the actual jets to fly much better. Maybe it's not really a flat spin though. It could be hovering and acquiring multiple targets in every direction. Yeah, that's probably it. Brian ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- From christmu at EUNET.NO Fri Aug 7 09:13:20 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 15:13:20 +0200 Subject: Space Folk (was: OFF: UK Charts) In-Reply-To: <199808070900.LAA27946@login-2.eunet.no> Message-ID: Doug Pearson... >>Nice to know I'm not alone... "Space-Folk" nominations anybody? >Linda Cohen (classical guitarist accompanied by electronics-wizard hubby >Craig Anderton) >Danish "Krautrock" band Emtidi ("Don't sit on the grass if it's too wet for >your ass") >Swedish "Krautrock" band Algarnas Traadgard (great violin on this one) >Stone Harbor, from Youngstown, OH had a couple great acoustic guitar + Moog >pieces on their sole LP > >How's that for a start? How about: Mooseheart Faith Stellar Groove Band - these guys ARE space-folk. I have their Global Brain CD, one of my all time faves (I'm embarrased to say their Bahai alien-religious hippy ramblings make faaar more sense than I want to admit right now :) Amon Duul II's wonderful Carnival In Babylon! My fave ADII. Liquid space acid folk. Third Ear Band - medieval folk influences mixed with lots of stoned out arabesque noodlery droooneooon-folk. Lovely stuff. Their first two albums are highly recommended and the Radio Sessions set from Voiceprint too. Haven't heard Macbeth but I hear its their weakest one. I guess Simon House's solo album touches on space folk too... Legendary Pink Dots will toss in a smattering of folkyness into the bleak spacyness as well.... Icarus - The Marvel World of Icarus, a bizarre novelty album of cosmic proportions, the track "Conan" is pretty space-folky in an inebriated head-injured Ian Anderson sort of way... And what about Incredible String Band's longer workouts? Or Peter Hammill on occasion with tracks like "Faint Heart and The Sermon". Popol Vuh... tho not outright folk I guess (I am thinking In The Garden of Pharaoh), mayhap Capt. Beefheart, Kevin Ayers-- hmm, the Michael Moorcock New Worlds Fair one could arguably class as space folk :) Rich Lockwood sez: >Can I continue by throwing You Slosh and Ed Allein Johnson (sp?) into this? >Recommend EAJ's "Purple Electric Violin Concerto" (or something). All >recorded in one take. Scary. woo! I've been thinking about snagging a coverless cheapo of this 2nd hand, looks like I gotta get it...... rant etc. Chr- ObCD - Goblin "Zombi/Tenebre" (has a couple of space horror-folk tracks!) From micci at SCI.FI Fri Aug 7 10:03:50 1998 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 17:03:50 +0300 Subject: HW: Atomhenge 76 bootleg CD Message-ID: Hello folks, Received today the Atomhenge 76 bootleg CD. This is really something, it?s make my weekend even better. There is one think. I found this old message >Bernhard wrote: >This CD is a MUST for all hardcore HAWKWIND fans. Unfortunately the >recording date and venue are not known Atleast my CD say Live At Colston Hall, Bristol 27/9 -76! There is also listed two drummer. Powel and King. Strange or was there really two drum player in same gig? All the best and happy weekend to all. Obcd:HW- Atomhenge76 Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Fri Aug 7 09:34:07 1998 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 14:34:07 +0100 Subject: OFF - Big nasty planes In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 07 Aug 1998 12:27:42 GMT." <98080712274277@lamp.ac.uk> Message-ID: > About the comment that the B2 was the scariest aircraft someone had seen. > When I was younger I used to live with the bottom of my garden backing > onto a RAF camp, and they had one airshow there where they had a Vulcan > bomber turn up and do some manoevres. One of these was (and I'm sure it was > pretty illegal as was way too low for flying over a residential area) to stand > on end and go straight up right over where I was standing in my garden. The > noise was HUGE. The coolest big plane has to have been the Valkyrie. What a bummer the prototype crashed - that was a real Gerry Anderson design :-) But enough nerdy tech appreciation for this list. Tim NP: Strobe _Alienation_ From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Fri Aug 7 10:10:18 1998 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:10:18 -0400 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: >The scariest-looking plane I've ever seen was a B-1 bomber at an air show a couple years ago. The matte paint job, and the ominous plackard next to the plane casually telling us that this one plane could level 30 cities with cruise missiles, the fact that this relatively-small-looking plane could carry a much larger payload than a B-52. And the SMG-armed, beret-wearing APs stationed around the plane to keep spectators from getting too close...Well, it was quite a sight... Saw a few fly-bys of one of these babies a few years back. Very cool. On the last flyby, the nose went up about 60 degrees and this thing took off like a rocket. Cool. John From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Fri Aug 7 10:12:22 1998 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 10:12:22 -0400 Subject: OFF: BOC ;-) Message-ID: >Consider it done! Is BD much of a collector? His stage gear, even when they had a huge touring budget, usually consisted of recent-issue gtr and amps. What's his favorite stuff to collect? I forget the details of Buck's collection, but I don't recall it being very big. He seems to have a little of this and a little of that, and it sounds like it's more from a practical perspective than a "collector". John From abrevard at SHL.COM Fri Aug 7 10:41:45 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 09:41:45 -0500 Subject: BOC: References Message-ID: >>While we've been on the subject of BOC references...does anybody >remember that car commercial not too long ago that mentions "dreaming >about jamming with Blue Oyster Cult" when you were younger? What >kinda car was that ad for? Clearing the cobwebs I think it was Mercedes Benz. FAQMAN bound to know for sure. > >>Also, I think this has been talked about in the not-too-distant past, >but did everybody see "The Stoned Age"? Whad'ya think? I loved all >the BOC...but I really thought the movie was piss-poor. I have to >admit, though, my eyes popped out of their sockets when I saw Buck >and Eric (pre-head shave) hawking bootleg T's. That scene was the >only reason I kept this one on tape. On a personal note, some advice >for Eric: You're one of the most killer frontmen in rock, but you >need acting lessons! > --Unfortunately only in bits and pieces. Didn't seem like much of a movie though the BOC and T&M t-shirts looked great on TV. A doctors appointment for one of my kids prevented me from seeing Eric and Buck's cameos. Darn it. > Ghost in the Ruins Who breathlessly awaits official confirmation on a second Savatage show >at Jaxx niteclub in September... From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 7 12:02:52 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 17:02:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Atomhenge 76 bootleg CD In-Reply-To: Miikka Wagner's message of Fri, 7 Aug 1998 17:03:50 +0300 Message-ID: Miikka Wagner writes: > Atleast my CD say Live At Colston Hall, Bristol 27/9 -76! > There is also listed two drummer. Powel and King. Strange or was there > really two drum player in same gig? yep - Hawkwind played with two drummers for a while after Simon King broke a rib and the band had to get a replacement in - they both played once Simon King returned. Made a good sound from what I'm told - never got to see them then 8-( jill obwinge> It's *still* raining obWierdRadio> Ralph Steadman on Desert Island Discs this morning telling stories of what he and Hunter Thompson used to get up to! ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 7 12:10:42 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 17:10:42 +0100 Subject: OFF: MAN VS MOOSE! In-Reply-To: Andrew A. Apold's message of Fri, 7 Aug 1998 08:29:37 -0400 Message-ID: Andrew A. Apold writes: > >Carl Edlund Anderson writes: > > > >> I await the release of a Hawkwind (or, possibly, darXtar) > >> album titled: _Choose your Moose_ ... > > >Steppenmoose > > My personal favorite (everyone knows that "astounding sounds" > is a reference to the haunting (american) moose call, if you've > heard it you know what I mean....) > > ...I am a moose-man > The man in me would kill the moose > I am a man-moose > The moose in me would kill my car > I am a moose-man And one moose recently died in my wardrobe..... Actually that should be a mouse but the Scots accent pronounces it as moose and anyhow, from the aroma it gave off I was fairly sure it was something considerably larger 8-(((( jill Death to mice and death to mouse, Death to moose and mousse to meece. ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 7 12:33:29 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 17:33:29 +0100 Subject: OFF: War and Civilization In-Reply-To: brian halligan's message of Wed, 5 Aug 1998 11:47:14 -0400 Message-ID: brian halligan writes: > Since the list has been delving into Saving Private Ryan lately, I was > wondering if anyone else has been watching the War and Civilization 8 > part series on The Learning Channel? It's been an interesting look at > armies, weapons, and tactics since the begining of "true" warfare about > 3,000 years ago. Tonights episodes cover WWI through the present. Drifting even further off topic - but what the heck - it's Friday afternoon on a wet summer's day: I was watching a programme on the battle of Agincourt the other night** and apparently the weapons that won the battle were the English longbows and it's from the bowmen that the two fingered V-sign comes (not the Victory sign but the reverse V-sign) since the two fingers used are the bowstring-pulling fingers and the bowmen would taunt the French by holding them up in derision! And I always assumed it meant something else entirely....! ** . Historical mode off - going home now. cheers jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Aug 7 13:00:18 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 13:00:18 -0400 Subject: OFF: War and Civilization Message-ID: >brian halligan writes: > >Drifting even further off topic - but what the heck - it's Friday >afternoon on a wet summer's day: I was watching a programme on the >battle of Agincourt the other night** and apparently the weapons that >won the battle were the English longbows and it's from the bowmen that >the two fingered V-sign comes (not the Victory sign but the reverse >V-sign) since the two fingers used are the bowstring-pulling fingers >and the bowmen would taunt the French by holding them up in derision! That's because the French would cut off the bow string fingers of any archers they caught. So those who had them would taunt them with it. This also lead to the expression "Pluck Yew" I get a feeling like deja vu, but I think it was another mailing list I went over this on... And he took the stars in his hands and as he scattered them he'd shout: "I'm the Joker of the Universe! I'm What it's all about!" - "The Great Sun Jester" by Blue ?yster Cult (Eric Bloom, Michael Moorcock) -AAA From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Aug 7 13:08:35 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 13:08:35 EDT Subject: tBS: Richmonds In-Reply-To: <329A5258416CD111928F006008A62C763530BD@bpxsv.156.106.206.in-addr.arpa> Message-ID: Brian, When are you showing up for the gig? Torgo, you going? From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Fri Aug 7 13:39:52 1998 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 13:39:52 -0400 Subject: BOC: References Message-ID: >>While we've been on the subject of BOC references...does anybody >remember that car commercial not too long ago that mentions "dreaming >about jamming with Blue Oyster Cult" when you were younger? What >kinda car was that ad for? Clearing the cobwebs I think it was Mercedes Benz. FAQMAN bound to know for sure. Indeed, it was Mercedes. >Didn't seem like much of a movie though the BOC and T&M t-shirts looked great on TV. (in the Stoned Age) Well, as I recall, the cutoff T&M shirt was rather, uh, attractively packaged... ;-) John From abrevard at SHL.COM Fri Aug 7 10:48:36 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 07:48:36 -0700 Subject: BOC setlist good vs. getting stale Message-ID: >From the Thing> > >Track Time Size(K) Contents >=============== ===== ==== ======== >track_1.l3-128k 4:20 4072 Dr. Music >track_2.l3-128k 5:21 5024 E.T.I. >track_3.l3-128k 4:27 4192 Burning For You >track_4.l3-128k 5:00 4704 Fire Of Unknown Origin >track_5.l3-128k 5:13 4904 Cities On Flame With Rock and Roll >track_6.l3-128k 5:17 4968 Joan Crawford >track_7.l3-128k 6:52 6448 Flaming Telepaths >track_8.l3-128k 4:57 4664 Veteran of the Psychic Wars >track_9.l3-128k 5:09 4832 Hot Rails to Hell ><<<<< > > >Track Time Size(K) Contents >=============== ===== ===== ======== >track_1.l3-128k 4:08 3896 ME262 >track_2.l3-128k 4:12 3960 Heavy Metal >track_3.l3-128k 7:29 7024 (Don't Fear) The Reaper >track_4.l3-128k 11:12 10528 Godzilla / Drum Solo >track_5.l3-128k 6:32 6144 Born to Be Wild >track_6.l3-128k 5:30 5168 Bass solo / 5 Man Guitar Jam >track_7.l3-128k 6:43 4776 Roadhouse Blues ><<<<< This stuff is good. I really love this version of Heavy Metal. ME 262 is far too short though. >>Here's the setlist from the show. Review to follow. > >Burnin' For You >Cities on Flame (With Rock & Roll) >E.T.I. >Harvest Moon >Buck's Boogie >O.D.'d on Life Itself >The Vigil >Live For Me >Flaming Telepaths >See You In Black >In Thee (Drumless version) >Lips in the Hills >Godzilla >Don't Fear The Reaper > >Encore: >Dominance & Submission >The Red & The Black > I dunno this one is getting a bit stale, essentially the same from April 98. C'mon guys there are other songs in the vault worth playing, not to mention on HF. BTW Live for Me as the next single isn't bad. I begin to wonder though if HM and then Live really make a dent in the charts can Buck ignore the lure of a solo effort? >Ghost in the Ruins > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Aug 7 15:14:56 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 15:14:56 EDT Subject: BOC setlist good vs. getting stale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: "BREVARD, Adrian R." > >>Here's the setlist from the show. Review to follow. > > > >Burnin' For You > >Cities on Flame (With Rock & Roll) > >E.T.I. > >Harvest Moon > >Buck's Boogie > >O.D.'d on Life Itself > >The Vigil > >Live For Me > >Flaming Telepaths > >See You In Black > >In Thee (Drumless version) > >Lips in the Hills > >Godzilla > >Don't Fear The Reaper > > > >Encore: > >Dominance & Submission > >The Red & The Black > > > I dunno this one is getting a bit stale, essentially the same from April > 98. C'mon guys there are other songs in the vault worth playing, not to > mention on HF. > > BTW Live for Me as the next single isn't bad. I begin to wonder though > if HM and then Live really make a dent in the charts can Buck ignore the > lure of a solo effort? > Well, they probably won't so you shouldn't have much to worry about. Besides, what kind of realistc solo career does a pushing-50 metalhead have anyway? Regarding the setlist, I'm pretty happy with it. Note that they regularly do Last Days too. From the list above, Id like to see the following dropped: Burnin for You [like that would ever happen!] ETI In Thee The rest of this set is pretty solid, and BOC's been playing the hell out of these tunes. Hard for me to make any other cuts... From d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET Fri Aug 7 16:35:13 1998 From: d.greenhalgh at VIRGIN.NET (David G) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 21:35:13 +0100 Subject: Space Folk (was: OFF: UK Charts) Message-ID: > Rich Lockwood sez: > > >Can I continue by throwing You Slosh and Ed Allein Johnson (sp?) into this? > >Recommend EAJ's "Purple Electric Violin Concerto" (or something). All > >recorded in one take. Scary. > > woo! I've been thinking about snagging a coverless cheapo of this 2nd hand, > looks like I gotta get it...... > I recommend you do, it's a bit good. Dave > rant etc. > Chr- > > ObCD - Goblin "Zombi/Tenebre" (has a couple of space horror-folk tracks!) From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Fri Aug 7 18:15:02 1998 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 18:15:02 EDT Subject: Hawkwind Strange Daze 98 Festival.....here we come~~~~~~> Message-ID: hello, bob here... i'll be at the festival again this year so please look out 4 me. like last year, i'll be looking out for as many people from Hawkwind land as i can find... i'll be wearing a Hawkwind t-shirt (oh, that should give me away) =o) will be in an RV again..probably there should be the jolly rogers flying as last year.... anyway....getting pumped for the event....can't wait... space is deep http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Aug 7 18:42:21 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 23:42:21 +0100 Subject: OFF - Big nasty planes In-Reply-To: <98080712274277@lamp.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 12:27 07/08/98 GMT, Martin wrote: >About the comment that the B2 was the scariest aircraft someone had seen. >When I was younger I used to live with the bottom of my garden backing >onto a RAF camp, and they had one airshow there where they had a Vulcan >bomber turn up and do some manoevres. One of these was (and I'm sure it was >pretty illegal as was way too low for flying over a residential area) to stand >on end and go straight up right over where I was standing in my garden. The >noise was HUGE. A big warbird with a loud loud loud cry. It was an amazing >sight. I can vouch for THAT noise: I went to a tramsport fest at the Crich Tramway Museum one year when they had a Vulcan do a low level flyby - truly awesome, and, backtracking a little, during the lead up to the Gulf war it was fun watching Harriers & A-10s scaring the crap out of wrinklies while practising strafing runs along the A17 in Lincolnshire. This may be apocryphal, but a couple of years before that I heard a tale of a fibre optic comms researcher at Martlesham Heath who got so fed up with low flying A-10s using their aerials as dummy targets disturbing his peace & quiet that heredirected the beam dump from his laser rig out through a vent in the roof - the consequence being that their defensive systems would go ape thinking they were being targeted...they gave the place a wide berth after a while... ChrisW Free your mind & watch your ass! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Aug 7 18:17:09 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 23:17:09 +0100 Subject: OFF: MAN VS MOOSE! In-Reply-To: <000101bdc1f3$21eaeda0$623f63c3@default> Message-ID: At 12:04 07/08/98 +0100, you wrote: >Oh come on. "The Wizard Blew his Moose". > >- Andy > >mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > > Quark, Strangeness & Moose And stranely, the quark is next to the chocolate moose in my fridge.... ChrisW Free your mind & watch your ass! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Aug 7 18:43:58 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 23:43:58 +0100 Subject: OFF: MAN VS MOOSE! In-Reply-To: <199808071229.IAA14334@in.flite.net> Message-ID: >...I am a moose-man >The man in me would kill the moose >I am a man-moose >The moose in me would kill my car Must be a Mercedes A-Class ChrisW Free your mind & watch your ass! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Aug 7 18:50:01 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 23:50:01 +0100 Subject: HW: Atomhenge 76 bootleg CD In-Reply-To: <199808071602.RAA13089@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 17:02 07/08/98 +0100, jill wrote: >obWierdRadio> Ralph Steadman on Desert Island Discs this morning telling >stories of what he and Hunter Thompson used to get up to! > Wish I'd heard this one - is Desert Island Discs still repeated on Sundays? Alternatively, did anyone tape this? In hope, ChrisW Free your mind & watch your ass! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Aug 7 19:14:46 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 00:14:46 +0100 Subject: OFF: MAN VS MOOSE! In-Reply-To: <199808071610.RAA15229@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 17:10 07/08/98 +0100, jill wrote: > >And one moose recently died in my wardrobe..... > >Actually that should be a mouse but the Scots accent pronounces it as >moose and anyhow, from the aroma it gave off I was fairly sure it was >something considerably larger 8-(((( > When we lived in the country our cat, (Mind The Oranges) Marlon failed to administer the coup de grace to a mouse that he brought in. Unfortunately, it picked the bedding drawer under our bed as its final resting place. We subsequently learned the real meaning of "It smells like something crawled in there and died" - pooooo-eee ChrisW Free your mind & watch your ass! From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Fri Aug 7 19:06:40 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 00:06:40 +0100 Subject: OFF: Space-Folk In-Reply-To: <199808070900.KAA19201@aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: I seem to have stirred up quite a few interesting items with this thread, and I've got a feeling my wallet's going to suffer for it. At 10:00 07/08/98 +0100, Tim replied: >> Nice to know I'm not alone... "Space-Folk" nominations anybody? >> How about John Martyn/Live At Leeds or Afro-Celt Sound System/Volume One > >Afro Celt Sound System - now yer talking! In fact, there's a dose of this on >my boc-l swap tape, out there somewhere... > Anybody who likes that should investigate Celtarabia/Ancient Forces - more acoustic/traditional, but in the same spirit. I'll also back up Andy's Shooglenifty recommendation - I have the "Venus In Tweeds" album and rate it v.highly - the title track is a hoot: Velvet Underground in the heather? I saw them (and the Afro-Celts) at WOMAD a couple of years ago, blindin' stuff! ChrisW NP: Celtarabia/Ancient Forces Free your mind & watch your ass! From mordru at FLITE.NET Fri Aug 7 22:52:05 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 22:52:05 -0400 Subject: OFF: MAN VS MOOSE! Message-ID: >Quark, Strangeness & Moose Wait a minute, that's kinda.... 'and I don't believe he ever had a moose'... Don't know how we got down this path, but there is a popular "moose" song which I've heard sung many times at SCA and Amtgard (medieval and fantasy recreation societies, resp.) events, which goes something like (and I do NOT have this memorized, it's on a website called cantaria along with a realaudio file of a friend of mine, Scarhart, singing it)... anyways, I take no responsibilities for this... http://chivalry.com/cantaria/lyrics/moose.html The Moose Song Author Unknown When I was a young lad I used to like girls, I'd play with their corsets and fondle their curls. 'Till one day, my lady I caught with some churl, Now you'd never get treated that way by a moose. Chorus Moose, moose, I likes a moose, I've never had anything quite like a moose. I've had lots of lovers, my life has been loose, But I've never had anything quite like a moose. Now when I'm in need of a very good lay, I go to my closet and get me some hay. I go to my window and spread it around. 'Cause moose always come when there's hay on the ground. Chorus... Gorillas are all right on Saturday night, Lions and tigers, they puts up a fight. But it's just not the same when you slam your caboose, As the feeling you get when you humps with a moose. Chorus I've done it with beasties with long flowing hair, I'd do it with snakes if their fangs were not there. I've done it with walrus, a monkey, and goose, But it's just not the same when you screw with a moose. Chorus Now that I am old and advanced in my years, I look back on my life and shed me no tears. As I sit in my chair with my glass of Matheus, Playing Hide-The-Salami with Melba the Moose. Chorus... -AAA From StevenTice at AOL.COM Fri Aug 7 23:24:55 1998 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 23:24:55 EDT Subject: OFF The Avengers cast list Message-ID: In a message dated 98-08-07 07:07:50 EDT, you write: << I've heard that The Avengers has also got Shaun Ryder and Eddy Izzard in it. >> Cheez, last I checked the Avengers still had Captain America, Thor, and Iron Man! Guess I'm really out of the loop...:-) SET (Comics shop owner, in case you'd forgotten...:-) From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sat Aug 8 06:56:48 1998 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 06:56:48 EDT Subject: OFF: DIAMANDA GALAS Message-ID: Diamanda Galas will be appearing at the Bowery Ballroom in NYC on Sept 22. regards, Bill Stewart From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Sat Aug 8 08:26:00 1998 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 14:26:00 +0200 Subject: HW: Atomhenge 76 bootleg CD In-Reply-To: <199808071403.RAA16341@ds9.sci.fi> Message-ID: Hi there At 17:03 07.08.98 +0300, you wrote: >Atleast my CD say Live At Colston Hall, Bristol 27/9 -76! Ooops! It seems that there exist CD-R's with 2 different sleeve notes. Who else has this CD withouth the venue mentioned on the sleeve? >There is also listed two drummer. Powel and King. Strange or was >there really two drum player in same gig? HAWKWIND played with 2 drummers on stage from June 1974 until October 1976 Bernhard From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Aug 8 10:40:12 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 15:40:12 +0100 Subject: HW:End of Time Message-ID: Well, I'd be extremely insulted if that's what other peoples perceptions of me were! Z Patrick Cordiner wrote: > Has anyone got the illustrated Moorcock's `Elric at the end of time' and seen the double page picture of a very familiar-looking space rock band? > > Patrick -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From erics at NOW.COM Sat Aug 8 19:05:09 1998 From: erics at NOW.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 19:05:09 -0400 Subject: HW: Strange Daze 98 questions In-Reply-To: <224997c4.35ca4a5d@aol.com> from "Bob Lennon" at Aug 6, 98 08:29:16 pm Message-ID: Bob Lennon wrote: > > from what i understand Nash the Slash isnt going to be at SD98 Now that's disappointing. I was looking forward to seeing ol' Nash again. > Lemmy's dog...that should be interesting... ... including the Antichrist on vibes...? -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at now.com | | / Question: When was the Golden Age of Science Fiction? Asimov's Answer: 13. From erics at NOW.COM Sat Aug 8 20:22:25 1998 From: erics at NOW.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 20:22:25 -0400 Subject: OFF: Folk was (RE: OFF: UK Charts) In-Reply-To: <3405369.3111339035@cea20.joh.cam.ac.uk> from "Carl Edlund Anderson" at Aug 5, 98 04:50:35 pm Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > (I will take this opportunity to randomly promote the > excellent Swedish trad-jazz metal of Hoven Droven ...) Seconded. Good band to see live, too. (The name translates as "Helter Skelter", if I recall, which should give you some idea...) -- | | /\ |-_|/ > Eric Siegerman, Toronto, Ont. erics at now.com | | / Question: When was the Golden Age of Science Fiction? Asimov's Answer: 13. From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Sun Aug 9 04:56:03 1998 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 10:56:03 +0200 Subject: HW: New Festival CD available Message-ID: Hello Folks !! There is a very new Festival CD available with one HAWKWIND track. The CD is called: Open Air Burg Herzberg Wir sind Kinder der Sonne Best of Vol.1 It is an official CD and you can get it at the following address: Kalle Becker Kuenzeller Strasse 15 36043 Fulda Gemany Tel.: +49 661 79137 Fax.: +49 661 9012508 You can find on this CD bands with the following tracks: 1. GONG, Would you like some tea <18:53> 2. GURU GURU, Space baby <09:16> 3. HAWKWIND, Love in Space <11:29> 4. FAUST, Allerdings weisst Du <08:24> 5. EMBRYO, Maroc <06:27> 6. CHRIS KARRER, Ya Habibi <09:12> 7. MAN, The ride & The view <10:00> The catalogue-number of this CD is: TPCD 1.807.030 The prize is: 30 DM + p&p All tracks were recorded between 1995 and 1997 at the BURG HERZBERG Festivals in Germany. The HAWKWIND track is from 21.07.1996 The CD has got a very good sound and the HW track is mixed up very good. A great version of LOVE IN SPACE with a beautyfull guitar solo by Dave !! There is a 10 page coloured booklet with the CD with lots of photos with the CD . Unfortunately no HAWKWIND photos Bernhard From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Aug 9 07:24:39 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 12:24:39 +0100 Subject: HW: New Festival CD available In-Reply-To: <199808090855.KAA29183@mail.castrop-rauxel.netsurf.de> Message-ID: Good old Think Progressive! The Chris Karrer track is, I presume, from his limited live album, _The Mask_, and well worth getting in its own right; the Man track is presumably from the Official Bootleg album also on TP. And for non-German speakers, the title translates as "We are the children of the sun" :) - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Bernhard Pospiech > Sent: 09 August 1998 09:56 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: HW: New Festival CD available > > > Hello Folks !! > > There is a very new Festival CD available with one HAWKWIND track. > The CD is called: > > Open Air Burg Herzberg > Wir sind Kinder der Sonne > Best of Vol.1 > > It is an official CD and you can get it at the following address: > > Kalle Becker > Kuenzeller Strasse 15 > 36043 Fulda > Gemany > > Tel.: +49 661 79137 > Fax.: +49 661 9012508 > > You can find on this CD bands with the following tracks: > > 1. GONG, Would you like some tea <18:53> > 2. GURU GURU, Space baby <09:16> > 3. HAWKWIND, Love in Space <11:29> > 4. FAUST, Allerdings weisst Du <08:24> > 5. EMBRYO, Maroc <06:27> > 6. CHRIS KARRER, Ya Habibi <09:12> > 7. MAN, The ride & The view <10:00> > > The catalogue-number of this CD is: TPCD 1.807.030 > The prize is: 30 DM + p&p > > All tracks were recorded between 1995 and 1997 at the BURG HERZBERG > Festivals in Germany. The HAWKWIND track is from 21.07.1996 > > The CD has got a very good sound and the HW track is mixed up very good. A > great version of LOVE IN SPACE with a beautyfull guitar solo by Dave !! > > There is a 10 page coloured booklet with the CD with lots of photos with > the CD . Unfortunately no HAWKWIND photos > > > Bernhard > From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun Aug 9 11:57:39 1998 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 15:57:39 +0000 Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?OFF:_J=F6nk=F6ping_fest?= Message-ID: Hope to see some of you in J?nk?ping next weekend. Talk to the rest later! ha det bra :) Carl -- Carl Edlund Anderson Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic St. John's College, University of Cambridge mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ From kg at THING.DE Sun Aug 9 12:37:35 1998 From: kg at THING.DE (stalker) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 18:37:35 +0200 Subject: CALVERT - update Message-ID: hello all, new pages on the Calvert site / spirit of the p/age britisch musician / journalist Lee Broughton - who contributed some material before on Arthur Brown and Huw Lloyd Langton - send his thoughts on Calvert >> http//www.thing.de/projekte/future/calon.htm and there's also a page on Broughton's own band AGUA CALIENTE - incl. a soundfile reminiscence to Mr. Calvert http//www.thing.de/projekte/future/calcoll.htm enjoy.... knut ps: does anyone know, if the '76 hawkwind live bootleg will be released officially? I'd rather buy an official release - so the money (hopefully) goes into the right pockets. From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Sun Aug 9 11:46:38 1998 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 17:46:38 +0200 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?SV:______OFF:_J=F6nk=F6ping_fest?= Message-ID: Hejsan Carl! Vi kommer sakert att traffas. See you Henrik -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr?n: Carl Edlund Anderson Till: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Datum: den 9 augusti 1998 16:55 ?mne: OFF: J?nk?ping fest > Hope to see some of you in J?nk?ping next weekend. Talk >to the rest later! > >ha det bra :) > >Carl > >-- >Carl Edlund Anderson >Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse, & Celtic >St. John's College, University of Cambridge >mailto:cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk >http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~carl/ > From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Sun Aug 9 13:16:59 1998 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 19:16:59 +0200 Subject: SV: CALVERT - update Message-ID: Cheers Knut! We?ll take a look at your excellent page asap. Any news about your CD-project? Concerning the Live 76 CD; as far as I know it?ll be released by EMI Premier but there?s no date yet (as usual with Hawkwind). Talking about money getting into the right pockets, haven?t this been an endless discussion between Hawkwind and Doug Smith throughout the decades? All the best Henrik >hello all, >new pages on the Calvert site / spirit of the p/age > >britisch musician / journalist Lee Broughton - who contributed some >material before >on Arthur Brown and Huw Lloyd Langton - send his thoughts on Calvert >>> http//www.thing.de/projekte/future/calon.htm > >and there's also a page on Broughton's own band AGUA CALIENTE - incl. >a soundfile reminiscence to Mr. Calvert >http//www.thing.de/projekte/future/calcoll.htm > >enjoy.... >knut > >ps: does anyone know, if the '76 hawkwind live bootleg will be released >officially? >I'd rather buy an official release - so the money (hopefully) goes into >the right pockets. > From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Aug 9 15:22:55 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 20:22:55 +0100 Subject: OFF: DEEP PURPLE Message-ID: Well, the Deep Purple US tour started August 6 with Dream Theater and Emerson, Lake & Palmer, so I thought I'd post the tracklisting of a show I went to Switzerland to see, for the benefit of those going to see them. Apparently it didn't vary too much from night to night. Out In The Green Festival, Frauenfeld, Switzerland, July 10 1998 Hush Bludsucker Strange Kind Of Woman Ted The Mechanic Pictures Of Home Into The Fire Woman From Tokyo Watching The Sky Almost Human Solo Steve Morse Smoke On The Water Solo Jon Lord Lazy Speed King Ian Paice Solo Not Fade Away ENCORES Highway Star Black Night Zeit -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM Sun Aug 9 16:49:35 1998 From: johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 22:49:35 +0200 Subject: HW: Atomhenge 76 bootleg CD Message-ID: At 14:26 1998-08-08 +0200, you wrote: >Hi there > >At 17:03 07.08.98 +0300, you wrote: >>Atleast my CD say Live At Colston Hall, Bristol 27/9 -76! > >Ooops! It seems that there exist CD-R's with 2 different sleeve notes. > >Who else has this CD withouth the venue mentioned on the sleeve? Henrik? Are you responsible for this kollektor's nightmare???? Mine hasn't date and venue. >>There is also listed two drummer. Powel and King. Strange or was >there >really two drum player in same gig? > >HAWKWIND played with 2 drummers on stage from June 1974 until October 1976 Ollis and King has also been on stage together. >Bernhard -joe From kg at THING.DE Sun Aug 9 19:06:33 1998 From: kg at THING.DE (stalker) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 01:06:33 +0200 Subject: SV: CALVERT - update Message-ID: Hi Henrik, >We?ll take a look at your excellent page asap. >Any news about your CD-project? it's developing - slower than I would like - but I simply had to work on lots of different projects lately and Mr. Calvert was (unfortunately still is) waiting on line (online). but some tracks are already in - VERY good stuff. but until things are really coming together I'll keep it more or less a secret surprise... >Concerning the Live 76 CD; as far as I know it?ll be released by EMI Premier but there?s no >date yet (as usual with Hawkwind). >Talking about money getting into the right pockets, haven?t this been an endless discussion >between Hawkwind and Doug Smith throughout the decades? yep, unfortunately. do you know if Doug Smith is still related with the band? anyway, have fun in J?nk?ping.... best, knut From arjanh at CS.VU.NL Mon Aug 10 03:20:33 1998 From: arjanh at CS.VU.NL (Hulsebos A) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 09:20:33 +0200 Subject: OFF: War and Civilization In-Reply-To: J Strobridge "Re: OFF: War and Civilization" (Aug 7, 5:33pm) Message-ID: On Aug 7, 5:33pm, J Strobridge wrote: >Drifting even further off topic - but what the heck - it's Friday >afternoon on a wet summer's day: I was watching a programme on the >battle of Agincourt the other night** and apparently the weapons that >won the battle were the English longbows and it's from the bowmen that >the two fingered V-sign comes (not the Victory sign but the reverse >V-sign) since the two fingers used are the bowstring-pulling fingers >and the bowmen would taunt the French by holding them up in derision! A little addition: if the English bowmen were captured, these very two fingers were chopped off.... This bit of information adds a little flavor to the gesture, don't you think? >cheers >jill Arjan H From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Mon Aug 10 05:59:13 1998 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 11:59:13 +0200 Subject: SV: SV: CALVERT - update Message-ID: Hi there! >Hi Henrik, > >>We?ll take a look at your excellent page asap. >>Any news about your CD-project? > >it's developing - slower than I would like - but I simply had to work on >lots of different >projects lately and Mr. Calvert was (unfortunately still is) waiting on >line (online). >but some tracks are already in - VERY good stuff. but until things are >really coming >together I'll keep it more or less a secret surprise... OK, looking forward to get one CD in the future. > >>Concerning the Live 76 CD; as far as I know it?ll be released by EMI >Premier but there?s no >date yet (as usual with Hawkwind). >>Talking about money getting into the right pockets, haven?t this been >an endless discussion >between Hawkwind and Doug Smith throughout the >decades? > >yep, unfortunately. do you know if Doug Smith is still related with the >band? > >From what I know he?s fired and a new manager is already in charge!?! >anyway, have fun in J?nk?ping.... I will:-))))) >best, >knut > Cheers Henrik From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon Aug 10 07:53:53 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 07:53:53 -0400 Subject: OFF: Choose Your Moose Message-ID: A moose bit my sister once Obligatory Monty Python: Holy Grail quote You may now return to your regularly scheduled program From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Mon Aug 10 08:40:57 1998 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 08:40:57 -0400 Subject: BOC setlist good vs. getting stale Message-ID: >I dunno this one is getting a bit stale, essentially the same from April 98. C'mon guys there are other songs in the vault worth playing, not to mention on HF. You're talking about a stale setlist from BOC because it's about the same from April? Usually the setlist doesn't change much in 4 years, let alone 4 months. ;-) Well, yes it actually has changed quite a bit over the past 2 years, but that's mainly due to Buck handling more vocals. Rumor has it that one or 2 other songs from HF are supposed to get worked into the setlist soon... John From abrevard at SHL.COM Mon Aug 10 10:00:44 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 07:00:44 -0700 Subject: BOC: What me worry? Message-ID: >BTW Live for Me as the next single isn't bad. I begin to wonder though > if HM and then Live really make a dent in the charts can Buck ignore the > lure of a solo effort? Theo>Well, they probably won't so you shouldn't have much to worry about. Besides, what kind of realistc solo career does a pushing-50 metalhead have anyway? What me worry? No sir, just like to see Buck let fly with another solo. He does not have to leave BOC to do this. Where is Buck now, musically speaking, compared to Flat Out? As for a career hey there are a lot of 50/40 & 30 year olds who'd pay to see him play some of the venues he's playing now. Theo>Regarding the setlist, I'm pretty happy with it. Note that they regularly do Last Days too. OK Theo>From the list above, Id like to see the following dropped: Burnin for You [like that would ever happen!] ETI In Thee The rest of this set is pretty solid, and BOC's been playing the hell out of these tunes. Not arguing that the setlist isn't solid but lets throw one to two more HF songs in there. Push it and push it hard. HF appears to have a bit of momentum so push the damn thing. Those three would be a good start for sure. Theo>Hard for me to make any other cuts... How about Buck's Boogie and The Red and The Black? in a debating mood... Ghost in the Ruins From abrevard at SHL.COM Mon Aug 10 10:02:55 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 09:02:55 -0500 Subject: OFF: t-shirts Message-ID: >Didn't seem like much of a movie though the BOC and T&M t-shirts looked great on TV. (in the Stoned Age) >Well, as I recall, the cutoff T&M shirt was rather, uh, attractively packaged... ;-) Indeed it was... Theo>Brian, When are you showing up for the gig? Torgo, you going? More importantly will aybody be able to tape Jason's froog this show. 8>) Ghost in the Ruins From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 10 10:23:19 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:23:19 EDT Subject: OFF: t-shirts In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: "BREVARD, Adrian R." > > More importantly will aybody be able to tape Jason's froog this show. > 8>) This was the most restrained I ever saw Jason. And this dude's got SOME self control. There was a female tBS fan on hand, who was begging him to dance too! What's up with that? He did dance one furious number, but he appeared to be sucking wind after that. Apart from that, it was kind of a disaster, at least for me. I ran out of a free concert featuring hot-rockin' country guitarist Lee Roy Parnell after only an hour, 'casue I wanted to be sure to catch the whole tBS show. Lee Roy was hot, and tearing the place up, but anyway... So I ran my ass off to get to Rochester, only to see 2 bands open for tBS, including one Syracuse group who played FOREVER. tBS didn't get on until 1am, and then played for 45 minutes. tBS, I'm afraid, were a little flat this night, but I wasn't in the greatest mood either. I was pretty bummed after driving a long while and seeing 2 mediocre bands who played way too long, and missing the rest of a smokin' show here in town. No Torgo on hand this time, though I did hook up with Brian and Jason, who did put on a good floor show [Jason, not Brian!] but I think that hard-rockin' babe kind of bent Jason's valve a little bit, as she wouldn't leave him alone when he wanted to boogie. Almost more fun than his dancing act itself! theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 10 10:34:53 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:34:53 EDT Subject: BOC: What me worry? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: "BREVARD, Adrian R." > > Theo>Hard for me to make any other cuts... > > How about Buck's Boogie and The Red and The Black? > tRatB, no problem, but I think that's mainly an encore. The way BD's been playing on Buck's Boogie lately makes me want to keep it in the set. I suspect that because it's an instrumental and gives BD a chance to rest his voice, it's likely to stay in the set for a long time. BD eally seems to be enjoying himself on this one nowadays... From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Mon Aug 10 10:50:55 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 10:50:55 -0400 Subject: tBS: Richmond's gig (was OFF: RE: t-shirts) Message-ID: Ghost said: >More importantly will aybody be able to tape Jason's froog this show. >8>) Sorry, not this time. He was his usual self though. Set list: St. Vitus Dance I Am the One You Warned Me Of Date With a Guitar Baby Ice Dog Gun A Kiss is a Promise Laura's Plastic Swords My Civilization Gimmie Nothin' The Red & The Black Dominance and Submission Name Your Monster (with improv jam and Chinese Fire Drill drum solo) Good turnout in a small club including a few die-hard fans. The band could barely fit on stage. You literally could not fit another mic on there. I felt sorry for Peter, who was crushed between his mic and his amps with hardly any room to manuever. The band sounded tight and Billy and Peter played some ripping solos. The crowd was pretty into it, esp. Al's many cousins who were in the audience. I think one of them was the bass player for the 1st opening band, "Slight Psych". Highlights: A Kiss is a Promise (the best version I've heard. Peter's solo came through loud and clear) I Am the One (always a highlight) Date With a Guitar (I don't think I've heard this since the 3 set Auburn gig. Loud and heavy!) tR&tB (fastest version I've heard (inc. current BOC.) 5 guitar jam) Name Your Monster (an improv treat with the strangest drum solo I've ever seen) Anyway, it was another great show by the band, and a teriffic way to end the Summer mini-tour. Looking forward to more gigs before the new album comes out next year! The new album will have at least 6 tunes written by Billy, as well as songs from Peter. I can't wait to check it out! Brian ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon Aug 10 11:27:31 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 11:27:31 -0400 Subject: What me worry? Message-ID: > How about Buck's Boogie and The Red and The Black? > > in a debating mood... > > Ghost in the Ruins > > Of the last five shows I have seen, The Red & the Black have only appeared twice (as encore). I personally would like to hear Joan Crawford put in right before Godzilla and Harvester of Eyes put in for first encore. Of course I would love to hear Astronomy live, and Damaged, and R.U Ready to Rock, and . . . You may now return to you regularly scheduled program From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon Aug 10 11:36:55 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 11:36:55 -0400 Subject: OFF: UK Charts Message-ID: After working on the B-1's for several years, I guess that I take the sight a little for granted. But, true, a B-1 is an impressive sight. Looks like a HUGE fighter and after talking with crews, they tend to fly it that way. And after visitng the crash site of one (Van Horn, TX), well . . . it really isn't a fighter after all. > ---------- > From: John A Swartz[SMTP:jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: Friday, August 07, 1998 10:10 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: OFF: UK Charts > > >The scariest-looking plane I've ever seen was a B-1 bomber at an air > show a couple years ago. The matte paint job, and the ominous > plackard next to the plane casually telling us that this one plane > could level 30 cities with cruise missiles, the fact that this > relatively-small-looking plane could carry a much larger payload than > a B-52. And the SMG-armed, beret-wearing APs stationed around the > plane to keep spectators from getting too close...Well, it was quite > a sight... > > Saw a few fly-bys of one of these babies a few years back. Very cool. > On the last flyby, the nose went up about 60 degrees and this thing > took off like a rocket. Cool. > > John > From mpower at FCMC.COM Mon Aug 10 11:58:46 1998 From: mpower at FCMC.COM (Marc Power) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 11:58:46 -0400 Subject: OFF: B0RN to G0 - Louis Boone/Professor Electron in critical condition Message-ID: Dear SpaceRockers, Sadly I have to make the friends of Louis Boone, also known as Professor Electron, synth and audio generator player in the SpaceRock band B0RN to G0, aware that he is in critical condition in the Intensive Care Unit of: Muhlenberg Hospital, Park ave & Randolph road Plainfield, New Jersey, 07061 (908) 668 3115 Louis has been diabetic for many years and had a diabetic crisis whilst we were driving back from a festival in Syracuse NY at which B0RN to G0 played. As far as we can tell, Louis has no living relatives and instead considers the SpaceRock community to be his family. Your good wishes and support would be very helpful for him at this time. In Space we Trust, Marc (212) 898 2946 (908) 233 9309 From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 10 13:22:41 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 13:22:41 EDT Subject: OFF: B0RN to G0 - Louis Boone/Professor Electron in critica In-Reply-To: <35CF18B6.6A9D5B77@fcmc.com> Message-ID: > From: Marc Power > > Louis has been diabetic for many years and had a diabetic crisis > whilst we were driving back from a festival in Syracuse NY at > which B0RN to G0 played. > Marc, Sorry to hear of Louis' trouble. What was this festival in Syracuse? From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Mon Aug 10 13:37:09 1998 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 12:37:09 -0500 Subject: OFF: Warrior over the edge of bustline Message-ID: Got this link in an email today and thought it might be of some entertainment value. Remember hearing about the time Lucy Lawless of "Xena Princess Warrior" fame sung the national anthem and showed more than her national pride? Here's the link to the animated gif of the event: http://www.fperkins.com/public/xena_oops.gif If you think you might be offended by this, don't go to the link and delete this message! Otherwise, check it out while the link is still there! These things tend to get pulled rather quickly. (=):-o-8}==> Karen From antisol at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Aug 10 17:07:14 1998 From: antisol at HOTMAIL.COM (The Automind) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 14:07:14 PDT Subject: STANGE DAZE 98 Message-ID: >Who's coming from Europe? > >regards, >Bill Stewart > I'm not! Does anyone know if there's a bus that heads in the general direction of Nelson & Ledges Park from Cleveland? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From john.m.gray at MCI2000.COM Mon Aug 10 22:50:23 1998 From: john.m.gray at MCI2000.COM (john.m.gray) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 19:50:23 -0700 Subject: OFF - Big nasty planes Message-ID: Only one of the two prototypes crashed, the other is in the museum at Dayton Ohio. It is the most awesome plane I have ever seen. One of the coolest planes I have ever seen in flight is a A-5 Vigilante. I was on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier during a air power display when it flew over, then pulled up to perform a straight up climb, hitting the after burners and breaking the sound barrier. It shot out of sight. All of us stood there, stunned. John >The coolest big plane has to have been the Valkyrie. What a >bummer the >prototype crashed - that was a real Gerry Anderson design :-) >But enough nerdy tech appreciation for this list. >Tim From abrevard at SHL.COM Tue Aug 11 09:32:06 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 06:32:06 -0700 Subject: OFF: Jasons Froog Message-ID: > More importantly will aybody be able to tape Jason's froog this show. > 8>) >Sorry, not this time. He was his usual self though Guess I'll have to wait until tBS has a video with Jason making a cameo. >This was the most restrained I ever saw Jason. And this dude's got >SOME self control. There was a female tBS fan on hand, who was >begging him to dance too! What's up with that? He did dance one >furious number, but he appeared to be sucking wind after that. >Jason, who did put on a good floor show [Jason, not Brian!] but I >think that hard-rockin' babe kind of bent Jason's valve a little bit, >as she wouldn't leave him alone when he wanted to boogie. Almost >more fun than his dancing act itself! Sound like a little method to Jason's madness heheheheheheh.... Ghost in the Ruins From abrevard at SHL.COM Tue Aug 11 09:42:11 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 08:42:11 -0500 Subject: BOC:setlist good vs. getting stale Message-ID: >Rumor has it that one or 2 other songs from HF are supposed to get >worked into the setlist soon... >John Ok this is good at least five from HF should be in there... >tRatB, no problem, but I think that's mainly an encore. The way BD's been playing on Buck's Boogie lately makes me want to keep it in the set. I suspect that because it's an instrumental and gives BD a chance to rest his voice, it's likely to stay in the set for a long time. BD eally seems to be enjoying himself on this one nowadays... Ok so Buck needs a little "finger talkin' between songs, no harm there. However get bold, get whacky, do Born to be Wild without vocals... >I personally would like to hear Joan Crawford put in right before Godzilla >and Harvester of Eyes put in for first encore. >Of course I would love to hear Astronomy live, and Damaged, and R.U Ready >to Rock, and . . . Suddenly I no longer feel all alone anymore... BTW Theo today is the release day of Doug Pinnick's Pound Hound (solo effort). Title is "Massive Grooves..." Ghost in the Ruins From mpower at FCMC.COM Tue Aug 11 16:12:09 1998 From: mpower at FCMC.COM (Marc Power) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 16:12:09 -0400 Subject: Off: B0RN to G0 - Louis Boone/Professor Electron health update Message-ID: Dear SpaceRockers, On behalf of Louis Boone/Professor Electron, I would like to thank you for all of the warm wishes and kind letters and email of support that he has received from all over the world. He is now much improved, responding to treatment and able to carry on a coherent (mostly) conversation, whereas yesterday, as someone visiting commented: 'He looks like the Grim Reaper is sitting on his pillow'. Louis is still in I.C.U. (no, not the band!), his diabetic condition is now stable, though they have discovered that he also has pneumonia, complicating his condition. He now shows every sign of pulling through this health crisis, with all faculties intact. Louis has indicated that he wishes BORN to GO to continue with it's scheduled performances during his health sabbatical and legendary Carl Howard (Nomuzic) has jumped into the slot in support of his good friend Louis, and will be subbing for the next few gigs: Wed, 12th August 1998 Downtime NYC, 251 W. 30th Street between 7th & 8th Ave. 10:00pm Lots of Robots! At Strange Daze 98, we are playing on Sunday 16th August at 1:30pm Carl Howard (Nomuzic) and Doug Walker of Alien Planetscapes will be handling synth and audiogenerator duties. We are dedicating this show to Louis Boone, since, with pneumonia he isn't going to be camping anywhere for a few weeks and he really loves being at Strange Daze. This is incredible progress in Louis's health, we were very worried about him and our spirits are very much uplifted by his improvement. Thank you all. Marc. From christmu at EUNET.NO Tue Aug 11 16:19:23 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 22:19:23 +0200 Subject: OFF: War and Civilization In-Reply-To: <199808100900.LAA22505@login-2.eunet.no> Message-ID: >On Aug 7, 5:33pm, J Strobridge wrote: > >>Drifting even further off topic - but what the heck - it's Friday >>afternoon on a wet summer's day: I was watching a programme on the >>battle of Agincourt the other night** and apparently the weapons that >>won the battle were the English longbows and it's from the bowmen that >>the two fingered V-sign comes (not the Victory sign but the reverse >>V-sign) since the two fingers used are the bowstring-pulling fingers >>and the bowmen would taunt the French by holding them up in derision! > >A little addition: if the English bowmen were captured, these very two >fingers were chopped off.... This bit of information adds a little flavor >to the gesture, don't you think? > >>cheers >>jill > >Arjan H I thought all this was everyday common knowledge to you british?????? Dunno where I know it from... oh yeah, I musta been an English bowman in my former life :) Christian ObCD/subsequent train of thought: Moonloonies - Detonator (by complete accident I found this 2day supercheap - part-time-Hawk Crum plays keys and its very SPACEY! Ditto for the "Head Your Mind" Dreamtime sampler which has two great alternate versions of Ship of Fools tracks... I used to see the video of SoF's L=sd 2 on MTV Europe, oddly enough - and I had it on tape with Sundials' "Fireball" off same channel as well - what happened to spacerock in the mainstream??) From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Wed Aug 12 00:29:55 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 04:29:55 +0000 Subject: BOC setlist good vs. getting stale Message-ID: > Rumor has it that one or 2 other songs from HF are supposed to get > worked into the setlist soon... > > John I think Damaged would be a great song to end the show with...all that rippin' and tearin'. What a way to go out and leave the crowd crying for an encore. I know it would be hard to displace Reaper but come on...it's 1998! Talk about stale...every show I've seen or heard since the Agents tour has ended with it! I realize it's the song most people (other than the die-hards) come to hear, but I think they could work it in somewhere else...maybe even as one of the encores. -- Nick From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Wed Aug 12 00:48:44 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 04:48:44 +0000 Subject: BOC:setlist good vs. getting stale Message-ID: > >I personally would like to hear Joan Crawford put in right before Godzilla > >and Harvester of Eyes put in for first encore. I saw them use Joan Crawford as a first encore once. Awesome! All the lights went out...they put a candelabra on Allen's piano...lit it...and he began banging out that familiar tune... BTW - Did anyone else cry foul at Joan Crawford's exclusion from the Workshop compilation? What's the deal with that?! -- Nick From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Wed Aug 12 05:21:37 1998 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (Scott Heller) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:21:37 +0200 Subject: HW :Jonkoping Message-ID: Hej, Carl and I (Scott) will arrive at the Space and Rock Festival in Jonkoping around 3:30 on friday. I was told that MAN would play around 6. We will search out a camp site and head to the show.. I will be wearing a Spacious Mind t-shirt and GWAR hat, while Carl, will wear his HW- Spirit of the Age tour shirt.. I hope to meet up with some of you... Remember they don't sell beer on saturday or sunday in sweden... If you hear two guys with long hair speaking only english it is probably us! I know Kenneth, Henrik and maybe CHristian will be there... don't know who else.. anyway, a full report will be given as the Commander from Darxtar said they were puuling out all the stops for a true Hawkwind 1972 set with Nik, so it should be killer... scott ( I won't be back until the 24th as we are also going up to Narvik to visit the great band Tangle Edge!) ObCs- Spiritual Beggars- London 2-9-98 R. Scott Heller PhD Hagedorn Research Institute Niels Steensensvej 6 DK 2820 Gentofte Denmark (45) 44 43 91 96 or 44 3 91 38 Phone (45) 44 43 80 00 Fax shll at hagedorn.dk or heller at hagedorn.dk Http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/stage/7713 From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 12 05:34:33 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 10:34:33 +0100 Subject: HW :Jonkoping In-Reply-To: Scott Heller's message of Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:21:37 +0200 Message-ID: Scott Heller writes: > ... Remember they > don't sell beer on saturday or sunday in sweden... If you hear two guys What!!! That must make weekend festivals a real problem or are you allowed to take beer in with you? And is it just beer or all alcohol that is banned at weekends? Hope you enjoy the festival anyhow! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Wed Aug 12 07:29:43 1998 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (M R Godwin) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 12:29:43 +0100 Subject: BOC:setlist good vs. getting stale In-Reply-To: <199808120844.EAA01549@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, wrote: > BTW - Did anyone else cry foul at Joan Crawford's exclusion from the > Workshop compilation? What's the deal with that?! > > -- Nick It's not actually written by band members, so the band may have preferred self-penned material. - Mike Godwin From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Aug 12 06:38:11 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:38:11 +0100 Subject: OFF: B0RN to G0 - Louis Boone/Professor Electron in critical condition In-Reply-To: <35CF18B6.6A9D5B77@fcmc.com> Message-ID: In article <35CF18B6.6A9D5B77 at fcmc.com>, Marc Power writes: >Louis has been diabetic for many years and had a diabetic crisis >whilst we were driving back from a festival in Syracuse NY at >which B0RN to G0 played. > >As far as we can tell, Louis has no living relatives and instead >considers the SpaceRock community to be his family. Tell him to hang in there. I've got bastard diabetes too. I know what he's going through. Doing festivals with diabetes is a real pig. I mean, it's do-able but it takes some real work and you really have to check your blood sugar levels every two hours or so. Fuck knows how Jerry Garcia coped for so long. > >Your good wishes and support would be very helpful for him >at this time. He certainly has my very best wishes, Brothers In Space, -- Jon From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Aug 12 08:41:01 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 08:41:01 -0400 Subject: BOC:setlist good vs. getting stale Message-ID: >On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, wrote: >> BTW - Did anyone else cry foul at Joan Crawford's exclusion from the >> Workshop compilation? What's the deal with that?! >> >> -- Nick > >It's not actually written by band members, so the band may have preferred >self-penned material. ? Joan Crawford is by Albert, Jack Rigg and Roter.... yes, it was partly written by people outside BOC, but so were lots of things on WOTT. And they put Dancin' in the Ruins on there, which was entirely an outside composition written by people not even mildly associated with BOC. I don't think the band had any input on what was on WOTT. I remember an interview with Eric in which he said that, then added he thought the selection was mostly OK. I think most people have a few items they thought should've been different, (for me it would be their Cultosaurus treatment, leaving off Unknown Tongue, Lips in the Hills, Black Blade, etc.) but still consider it the best compilation available (until we get our boxed set)... And he took the stars in his hands and as he scattered them he'd shout: "I'm the Joker of the Universe! I'm What it's all about!" - "The Great Sun Jester" by Blue ?yster Cult (Eric Bloom, Michael Moorcock) -AAA From fiskare at WEBCONCEPT.COM.AU Wed Aug 12 21:49:40 1998 From: fiskare at WEBCONCEPT.COM.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:49:40 +1000 Subject: OFF: (majorly).see ya all soon Message-ID: Dear All, Well, I am off here for a month or so to go to the USA and Canada for a holiday. I hope to see BOC at least in Pittsburgh with Bill Bradley. See you all soon, Troy PS: Nik rules, and I like Club Ninja.. : ) =========================================== Troy Harris fiskare at webconcept.com.au From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Wed Aug 12 12:20:00 1998 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:20:00 +0100 Subject: OFF: (majorly).see ya all soon In-Reply-To: <199808130149.LAA03258@shell-01.webconcept.com.au> Message-ID: At 11:49 13/08/98 +1000, Troy Harris wrote: >PS: Nik rules, and I like Club Ninja.. : ) Have a good trip. Dave. P.S. Rush are gods. ;-) Harlequin Ltd., Lismore House, 127 George St, Edinburgh, EH2 4JN, UK. Tel: +44 131 240 6106. From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 12 12:52:32 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:52:32 +0100 Subject: US Tour dates Message-ID: You may know about this, but here's a groovy little search engine for US concert dates. I checked out BOC and it came up with 22 shows and has links to all the concert venues. One for the bookmarks? http://www.pollstar.com/homenf.htm Z NP: Alkaterian -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 12 13:16:24 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:16:24 EDT Subject: OFF: (majorly).see ya all soon In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980812172000.00a0d1d0@mailhost.ed.harlequin.co.uk> Message-ID: > From: Dave Berry > At 11:49 13/08/98 +1000, Troy Harris wrote: > >PS: Nik rules, and I like Club Ninja.. : ) > > Have a good trip. > > Dave. > > P.S. Rush are gods. ;-) > esp. Geddy... From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Aug 12 14:34:33 1998 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:34:33 -0400 Subject: BOC:setlist good vs. getting stale Message-ID: >I don't think the band had any input on what was on WOTT. I remember an interview with Eric in which he said that, then added he thought the selection was mostly OK. I think the band had minimal input on WOTT, but very little. Bascially, the record company took all/most of the singles (a and b sides) and used that as the basis for WOTT. There were some sins of omission, due probably in part to not wanting to go to 3 CDs. I believe that I heard that the band saw the final song selection and basically O.K.'d it - but I doubt they had much input (if any) prior to that. John From mlooney at IONET.NET Wed Aug 12 16:38:07 1998 From: mlooney at IONET.NET (J. Michael Looney) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:38:07 -0500 Subject: BOC Aug 13th show Message-ID: The BOC show in Wichita KS is a triple bill, with BOC as headliner (based on the poster at the club) The other bands are Nazareth and April Wine. I will be there, wearing black pants and a black short sleeved "polo" shirt, shoulder length brownish blond hair and beard. From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Wed Aug 12 16:57:26 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 16:57:26 -0400 Subject: BOC Aug 13th show Message-ID: J. Michael Looney [mailto:mlooney at IONET.NET] said: >The BOC show in Wichita KS is a triple bill, with BOC as headliner (based on >the poster at the club) >The other bands are Nazareth and April Wine. Watch out for Nazareth. They played before BOC at a festival in Buffalo two years ago and seriously cut into BOC's time on stage. They kept "Love Hurts" as an encore, and BOC only ended up playing 5 songs... Brian OB crowd participation> "Now you're messin' with a..." ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- From abrevard at SHL.COM Wed Aug 12 17:00:19 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:00:19 -0700 Subject: BOC: No Reaper Message-ID: >Rumor has it that one or 2 other songs from HF are supposed to get > worked into the setlist soon... > > John >I think Damaged would be a great song to end the show with...all that rippin' and tearin'. What a way to go out and leave the crowd crying for an encore. I know it would be hard to displace Reaper but come on...it's 1998! Talk about stale...every show I've seen or heard since the Agents tour has ended with it! I realize it's the song most people (other than the die-hards) come to hear, but I think they could work it in somewhere else...maybe even as one of the encores. --> Nick Oh my! You can't say that! No Reaper in the setlist? Sacraliege!! You Heretic! What are we to do with you? Heheheheh they may really start on you for this Nick. But what the hey it makes sense. Why not drop Reaper,and 'Zilla for that matter, from the setlist. At a minimum move Reaper to the encore. People will at least be screaming for it. >BTW - Did anyone else cry foul at Joan Crawford's exclusion from the Workshop compilation? What's the deal with that?! --> Nick I shed a tear or two for it as well as many other glaring omissions...Can't be too upset... they did get the right version of Subhuman on the disc. Ghost in the Ruins MOMENTS ON THE CAROUSEL MUST ADMIT WE RIDE IT WELL AND THE HORSES NEVER TELL ALL THROUGHOUT THE RIDE THAT NO ONE LEAVES NO ONE LEAVES NO ONE LEAVES... ALIVE From erics at NOW.COM Wed Aug 12 20:20:30 1998 From: erics at NOW.COM (Eric Siegerman) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 20:20:30 -0400 Subject: Strange Daze Cybercast!!! In-Reply-To: <199808090855.KAA29183@mail.castrop-rauxel.netsurf.de> from "Bernhard Pospiech" at Aug 9, 98 04:56:03 am Message-ID: If you can't be at Strange Daze '98 in person, at least you'll be able to join us in spirit. Looks as though Jim Lascko (the promoter/organizer/space-rock god) will be cybercasting the whole thing! http://www.now-online.com/jmfinity/cybercast.htm From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Wed Aug 12 21:50:19 1998 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:50:19 +1000 Subject: Strange Daze Cybercast!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Eric Siegerman wrote... > If you can't be at Strange Daze '98 in person, at least you'll be > able to join us in spirit. Looks as though Jim Lascko (the > promoter/organizer/space-rock god) will be cybercasting the > whole thing! > http://www.now-online.com/jmfinity/cybercast.htm WWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Max From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 13 01:52:55 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 06:52:55 +0100 Subject: OFF:,WAY OFF:/BAD TASTE WARNING - ILL ADVISED ALBUM CREDITS Message-ID: In my quest for trivia, I leave no small print unread. So my contender for "The Watch Who You're Thanking And Pick Your Friends With More Care Award" goes to Bobby M, who on his Motown/Gordy album gives consecutive "Special thanks to..Rick James, O.J. Simpson..." That'll be the kidnapper\sexual batterer and a murderer, then. Mind you, if I take a note of every other name and carefully avoid them, my chances of being the victim of violence might diminish. Z NP: Gram Parsons/Flying Burrito Brothers [what's the fuss all about?] -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Thu Aug 13 00:27:51 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 04:27:51 +0000 Subject: US Tour dates Message-ID: > http://www.pollstar.com/homenf.htm While we're on the subject...all you collectors should check out this site: www.concertposters.com Somebody showed it to me recently...it's got old concert posters and some merchandise for a shitload of bands...even Mahogany Rush, so you know they're serious! Checking out the BOC...they have an absolutely amazing Imaginos-era poster, with the cover art, of course. Can't remember how much it was, but in general the BOC stuff was less expensive than some other bands. I cannot in any way vouch for their reliability. I just learned about the site yesterday. -- Nick From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Aug 13 05:05:29 1998 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:05:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Unusual version of Quark???? Message-ID: Hi Folks, Whilst shopping yesterday (Selectadisc, London) I came across a version of Quark which I hadn't seen before. Its on the Griffin label (catalogue number GCDHA-162-2), has the standard track list but has a completely different cover to the power station interior we all know. I was hoping it might be a new master but unlike the Griffin ASAM, I cannot tell any immediate difference. Has anyone come across this before and know whether there is any difference to the original Virgin CD release and WHY the cover was changed? Thanks! -- Mark Edmonds From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Thu Aug 13 09:21:23 1998 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 09:21:23 -0400 Subject: BOC: No Reaper Message-ID: >Why not drop Reaper,and 'Zilla for that matter, from the setlist. At a minimum move Reaper to the encore. People will at least be screaming for it. Good idea - actually, "Reaper" was BOC's encore back in '76. >BTW - Did anyone else cry foul at Joan Crawford's exclusion from the Workshop compilation? What's the deal with that?! Biggest WOTT Omission - Imaginos Material 2nd Biggest WOTT Omission - Hot Rails to Hell 3rd Biggest WOTT Omission - Cities on Flame from "The Bootleg EP" 4th Biggest WOTT Omission - Joan Crawford 5th Biggest WOTT Omission - something else from Cultosaurus Other omissions - single b-sides with live tracks (Flaming Telepaths, Dr. Music, Stairway to the Stars, Godzilla), Harvester of Eyes/Flaming Telepaths from *Secret Treaties* with full "music box" track in-between, Wings of Mercury Of course, don't get me started on the SWU/SFG material... ;-) John From micci at SCI.FI Thu Aug 13 10:09:17 1998 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:09:17 +0300 Subject: off:Calvert/ Wagner Message-ID: Hi! I receive today Adrian Wagner Cd call Distances Between Us, where is Calvert too. Every HW/ Calvert fan must buy this CD, 10% of the profits on sales of this edition are to be given to Nicholas, Roberts son. So go to www.mediaquest.co.uk and buy it now. There is also very early version of Steppenwolf and unreleased song call Stranger in a Strange Land, which is very good. Cheers, Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From abrevard at SHL.COM Thu Aug 13 11:46:24 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:46:24 -0500 Subject: BOC :Tour Message-ID: >The BOC show in Wichita KS is a triple bill, with BOC as headliner (based on the poster at the club). The other bands are Nazareth and April Wine. Hey Torgo I wonder if DB will make this show. A dream concert for him. 8>) April Wine? Those geezers still play? "If you see Kay...." hehehehehehehehe >Watch out for Nazareth. They played before BOC at a festival in Buffalo two years ago and seriously cut into BOC's time on stage. They kept "Love Hurts" as an encore, and BOC only ended up playing 5 songs... Thats rude (of Naz that is) but I'd watch out for them 'cause these guys can still play a ton. They gave a great show down here a couple of summers ago. Nazareth ROX! >Brian OB crowd participation> "Now you're messin' with a..." Son-of-a-BITC$......now you messin' with a son of a bitc$.... Hey don't leave the room when they do "White Bicycle" Ghost in the Ruins MOMENTS ON THE CAROUSEL MUST ADMIT WE RIDE IT WELL AND THE HORSES NEVER TELL ALL THROUGHOUT THE RIDE THAT NO ONE LEAVES NO ONE LEAVES NO ONE LEAVES... ALIVE From Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM Thu Aug 13 12:46:44 1998 From: Guy.Thomas at LONDON.ENTOIL.COM (LN1GJT) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:46:44 +0000 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <199808120934.KAA09888@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Scott Heller writes: > ... Remember they > don't sell beer on saturday or sunday in sweden... If you hear two guys What!!! That must make weekend festivals a real problem or are you allowed to take beer in with you? And is it just beer or all alcohol that is banned at weekends? Signoff ln1gjt BOC-L From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Aug 13 12:00:02 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 12:00:02 -0400 Subject: BOC: HOB in Orlando Message-ID: Anyone else going to the BOC show in Orlando next (not this) weekend? I'll be there, probably in my Flat Out t-shirt... And he took the stars in his hands and as he scattered them he'd shout: "I'm the Joker of the Universe! I'm What it's all about!" - "The Great Sun Jester" by Blue ?yster Cult (Eric Bloom, Michael Moorcock) -AAA From mlooney at IONET.NET Thu Aug 13 12:10:46 1998 From: mlooney at IONET.NET (J. Michael Looney) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:10:46 -0500 Subject: BOC :Tour Message-ID: BREVARD, Adrian R. wrote: > >The BOC show in Wichita KS is a triple bill, with BOC as headliner > (based on the poster at the club). The other bands are Nazareth and > April Wine. I got the tickets in my hot little hands now. BOC is the headliner. The band order seems to be April Wine, Nazareth, then BOC. More after the show... From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 13 12:32:55 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:32:55 +0100 Subject: HW: Unusual version of Quark???? In-Reply-To: Mark Edmonds's message of Thu, 13 Aug 1998 10:05:29 +0100 Message-ID: Mark Edmonds writes: > Hi Folks, > > Whilst shopping yesterday (Selectadisc, London) I came across a version > of Quark which I hadn't seen before. Its on the Griffin label (catalogue > number GCDHA-162-2), has the standard track list but has a completely > different cover to the power station interior we all know. I was hoping > it might be a new master but unlike the Griffin ASAM, I cannot tell any > immediate difference. > > Has anyone come across this before and know whether there is any > difference to the original Virgin CD release and WHY the cover was > changed? Haven't seen this one. Could you describe the cover? My guess is that when Quark was released in the States under the Griffin lable they either decided to or had to change the cover - perhaps the artwork copyright had run out by then? Dunno - just guessing. jill ObAmusement> watching the Porcupine Tree mailing list turning into a Hawkwind discussion group 8-)) ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From adawson at CLARA.NET Thu Aug 13 14:59:42 1998 From: adawson at CLARA.NET (Andrew Dawson) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:59:42 +0100 Subject: HW: Unusual version of Quark???? In-Reply-To: <199808131632.RAA07342@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 17:32 13/08/98 +0100, you wrote: >Mark Edmonds writes: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> Whilst shopping yesterday (Selectadisc, London) I came across a version >> of Quark which I hadn't seen before. Its on the Griffin label (catalogue >> number GCDHA-162-2), has the standard track list but has a completely >> different cover to the power station interior we all know. I was hoping >> it might be a new master but unlike the Griffin ASAM, I cannot tell any >> immediate difference. >> >> Has anyone come across this before and know whether there is any >> difference to the original Virgin CD release and WHY the cover was >> changed? > To which Jill Strobridge replied > >Haven't seen this one. Could you describe the cover? My guess is that >when Quark was released in the States under the Griffin lable they >either decided to or had to change the cover - perhaps the artwork >copyright had run out by then? > >Dunno - just guessing. > Sounds to me like the CD from the Quark boxset (GCD 370-0) Griffin release. At least the catalogue number is the same. It appears Griffin later split out the CD's from the box sets. Take a look at http://home.clara.net/adawson/quark.html and let me know if this is the same artwork. Andy Andrew Dawson adawson at clara.net Into Hawkwind ? Then check out the Worldwide discography. http://home.clara.net/adawson From tgn at GATE.NET Thu Aug 13 15:15:54 1998 From: tgn at GATE.NET (Timothy G. Northrup) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:15:54 -0400 Subject: BOC: HOB in Orlando Message-ID: On Thursday, August 13, 1998 12:00 PM, Andrew A. Apold [SMTP:mordru at FLITE.NET] wrote: > Anyone else going to the BOC show in Orlando next (not this) weekend? > > I'll be there, probably in my Flat Out t-shirt... I'll be there as well, probably in my shorts and polo shirt :-) Just saw Alice Cooper there last Saturday (great show -- got to meet him after the show!) so I'm not sure if I want to stand in front of the stage, or try and snag one of the bench seats in the balcony. -- Tim From adawson at CLARA.NET Thu Aug 13 15:16:11 1998 From: adawson at CLARA.NET (Andrew Dawson) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 20:16:11 +0100 Subject: off:Calvert/ Wagner In-Reply-To: <199808131409.RAA14895@ds9.sci.fi> Message-ID: At 17:09 13/08/98 +0300, you wrote: >Hi! > >I receive today Adrian Wagner Cd call Distances Between Us, where is Calvert >too. Had not realised this was now on CD. Thanks for the info. >Every HW/ Calvert fan must buy this CD, 10% of the profits on sales of this >edition are to be given to Nicholas, Roberts son. So go to >www.mediaquest.co.uk and buy it now. I'll second that. On my way to buy it now >There is also very early version of Steppenwolf and unreleased song call >Stranger in a Strange Land, which is very good. Yes the Steppenwolf track is superb. A must for all Calvert (and HW) fans. BTW Robert also narrates a poem called "Messengers of Morpheus. > >Cheers, > >Miikka Wagner Andy Andrew Dawson adawson at clara.net Into Hawkwind ? Then check out the Worldwide discography. http://home.clara.net/adawson From dlandste at WORLDRAMP.NET Thu Aug 13 15:37:23 1998 From: dlandste at WORLDRAMP.NET (Dennis Landstedt) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:37:23 -0400 Subject: BOC: HOB in Orlando In-Reply-To: <01BDC6CD.448E1740.tgn@Gate.Net> Message-ID: I just saw Third Eye Blind, Our Lady Peace, and Eve 6 at the House of Blues in Orlando last night. It was without a doubt, one of the most memorable concerts events of my lifetime. Everthing was perfect, thought I was lucky that I got there early to get good seats which were in the balcony right at center stage, the view and sound were absolutely incredible! I recomend going to the HOB for a show, though it does get very crowded so you have to plan going early if you want a good seat, otherwise you have to stand. The bands come on like clock work, which is something I never saw at a concert before. The ticket says 8:30, and damn if when the second hand hit 8:30, the lights went out and the band came on! Also, they have over head TV monitors of the stage all over the house, so you can see the band almost everywhere you go! :-) Dennis --------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Landstedt Microsoft MVP and SiteBuilder Network Member On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Timothy G. Northrup wrote: > On Thursday, August 13, 1998 12:00 PM, Andrew A. Apold [SMTP:mordru at FLITE.NET] wrote: > > Anyone else going to the BOC show in Orlando next (not this) weekend? > > > > I'll be there, probably in my Flat Out t-shirt... > > I'll be there as well, probably in my shorts and polo shirt :-) > > Just saw Alice Cooper there last Saturday (great show -- got to meet him after the show!) > so I'm not sure if I want to stand in front of the stage, or try and snag one of the bench seats > in the balcony. > > -- Tim > From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Thu Aug 13 16:07:31 1998 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:07:31 EDT Subject: BOC :Tour Message-ID: In a message dated 08/13/98 11:15:33 AM Central Daylight Time, mlooney at IONET.NET writes: << I got the tickets in my hot little hands now. BOC is the headliner. The band order seems to be April Wine, Nazareth, then BOC. >> According to my phone conversation with the club last night, the order is Naz - 7:00 BOC - 9:00 AW - 11:00 R. From mlooney at IONET.NET Thu Aug 13 16:57:54 1998 From: mlooney at IONET.NET (J. Michael Looney) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:57:54 -0500 Subject: BOC :Tour Message-ID: Rocker22 at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 08/13/98 11:15:33 AM Central Daylight Time, > mlooney at IONET.NET writes: > > << I got the tickets in my hot little hands now. BOC is the headliner. The > band order seems to be April Wine, Nazareth, then BOC. >> > > According to my phone conversation with the club last night, the order is > > Naz - 7:00 > BOC - 9:00 > AW - 11:00 Odd. When I talked to them they said that BOC was playing last. And the tickets say "Doors open at 7:00". We will see in about 3 hours... From mwood at MY-DEJANEWS.COM Thu Aug 13 16:12:52 1998 From: mwood at MY-DEJANEWS.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 13:12:52 -0700 Subject: HW: Unusual version of Quark???? Message-ID: On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:59:42 Andrew Dawson wrote: >At 17:32 13/08/98 +0100, you wrote: >>> Whilst shopping yesterday (Selectadisc, London) I came across a version >>> of Quark which I hadn't seen before. Its on the Griffin label (catalogue >>> number GCDHA-162-2), has the standard track list but has a completely >>> different cover to the power station interior we all know. I was hoping >>> it might be a new master but unlike the Griffin ASAM, I cannot tell any >>> immediate difference. >>> >>> Has anyone come across this before and know whether there is any >>> difference to the original Virgin CD release and WHY the cover was >>> changed? >Sounds to me like the CD from the Quark boxset (GCD 370-0) Griffin release. >At least the catalogue number is the same. It appears Griffin later split >out the CD's from the box sets. > >Take a look at > >http://home.clara.net/adawson/quark.html > >and let me know if this is the same artwork. Yep, that's the one I own (GCDHA-162). No bonus tracks, no remastered anything. Lyrics for the title track are included, I think, but not for any others. MWood NP: Discipline: _Unfolded Like Staircase_ -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums From mlooney at IONET.NET Fri Aug 14 02:38:12 1998 From: mlooney at IONET.NET (J. Michael Looney) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 01:38:12 -0500 Subject: BOC Review of Aug 13th show. Message-ID: BOC in Wichita KS Aug 13th, 1998 This show was at ?Incahoots? which is a country bar. Had some where between 700 and 1800 people in the club. (various estimates, mine being about 1000) Club is a converted aircraft hanger, FWIW. Non Musical Highlights: The dude asking my wife (The retired exotic dancer) to flash her tits at the concert security. She didn?t :-( Musical notes. Nazareth. They played. Enough said on that subject. (my wife says that about 5 of their songs were ?real good?. She likes ?Tool? and ?The Red Hot Chile Peppers? also. You make your own call here) They did find the problems with the mixing board. This helped April Wine & BOC. Granted I did like the lead singer doing the Highland pipes during ?The Hair of the Dog? AKA (?Now your messing with a Son of a Bitch?). I might add that he is not that good of a piper. April Wine. Some what better. Long kick ass drum solo. I also liked ?Gypsy Queen?. Their bass player was BTO?s bassist for what it is worth. Blue Oyster Cult: Set List: Burning For You Cities on Flame ETI Harvest Moon Buck?s Boogie This Ain?t the Summer of Love The Vigil Live for Me Flaming Telepaths See you in Black Last Days of May Godzilla Don?t Fear The Reaper Encore of Dominance and Submission. General notes: I REALLY wanted to hear ?In Thee? and ?The Red and the Black? live. Oh well. Buck is in the top of his form. Really showed what a GREAT guitar player he is. The band sounded really tight. Eric seemed to letting Buck do a lot, and he was playing a lot of keyboards. Alan seems to be trying quit smoking. He only smoked 2 during the whole show (one at the start, one at the end) [That I saw, Vickie says she saw him smoke one in the middle] When Eric was singing, however, his voice sounded great. Did not hear any problems. I did meet Ric at the show, and I am sure that when he gets back to a computer he will post his view of the show. (I want his bike, for what it worth. Nice Harley he has .) Vickie says that he can take her for a ride around town any time he wants. From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Fri Aug 14 06:55:57 1998 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 06:55:57 EDT Subject: Hawkwind Strange Daze 98...we're off..... Message-ID: we're taking off for Ohio and a blast of a weekend... Strange Daze here we come.... bob From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 14 07:39:28 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 12:39:28 +0100 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: LN1GJT's message of Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:46:44 +0000 Message-ID: LN1GJT writes: > > Scott Heller writes: > > > > > > > ... Remember they > > > don't sell beer on saturday or sunday in sweden... If you hear two guys > > > > What!!! That must make weekend festivals a real problem or are you > > allowed to take beer in with you? And is it just beer or all alcohol > > that is banned at weekends? > > Signoff ln1gjt BOC-L I hope it wasn't because of something I said! jill > ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 14 07:41:07 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 12:41:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Unusual version of Quark???? In-Reply-To: Andrew Dawson's message of Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:59:42 +0100 Message-ID: Andrew Dawson writes: > Take a look at > > http://home.clara.net/adawson/quark.html > > and let me know if this is the same artwork. ah - of course. Thank you! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 14 07:42:58 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 12:42:58 +0100 Subject: off:Calvert/ Wagner In-Reply-To: Miikka Wagner's message of Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:09:17 +0300 Message-ID: Miikka Wagner writes: > Hi! > > I receive today Adrian Wagner Cd call Distances Between Us, where is Calvert > too. > Every HW/ Calvert fan must buy this CD, 10% of the profits on sales of this > edition are to be given to Nicholas, Roberts son. So go to > www.mediaquest.co.uk and buy it now. Is there a label and catalogue number? jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From christmu at EUNET.NO Fri Aug 14 08:33:00 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 14:33:00 +0200 Subject: OFF: Scandinavia In-Reply-To: <199808140900.LAA12049@login-2.eunet.no> Message-ID: >> ... Remember they >> don't sell beer on saturday or sunday in sweden... If you hear two guys > >What!!! That must make weekend festivals a real problem or are you >allowed to take beer in with you? And is it just beer or all alcohol >that is banned at weekends? All the great things one hears about Scandinavia are a lie, kids! Social democracy went to hell. Its a happy little place with free hospitals and schools if you put up with every petty petty law and every enforced moral spewed out of the beurocracy :) And the public schools and hospitals are public dumps. If you want to see poverty, street junkies and prostitutes, then why not visit Oslo. In a city of less than half a million there are over 100 registered heroin OD deaths a year (compare stats to, say Amsterdam). Cops will round them up whenever a new boatload of tourists hits the docks though. You can also buy beer here on Saturday. Makes life worth living! Christian From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Aug 14 06:01:33 1998 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:01:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Unusual version of Quark???? In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980813195942.007a0bd0@clara.net> Message-ID: In message <3.0.1.32.19980813195942.007a0bd0 at clara.net>, Andrew Dawson writes >Sounds to me like the CD from the Quark boxset (GCD 370-0) Griffin release. >At least the catalogue number is the same. It appears Griffin later split >out the CD's from the box sets. > >Take a look at > >http://home.clara.net/adawson/quark.html > >and let me know if this is the same artwork. Yep, that's the one! Real shame they made no attempt to remaster it at the same time. Thanks, -- Mark Edmonds From micci at SCI.FI Fri Aug 14 10:06:25 1998 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 17:06:25 +0300 Subject: off:Calvert/ Wagner Message-ID: Hi! >> > > >Is there a label and catalogue number? >jill Mediaquest MS 112 www.mediaquest.co.uk Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Fri Aug 14 10:13:58 1998 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:13:58 EDT Subject: BOC Review of Aug 13th show. Message-ID: Attendance estimate (by me) was 1,200 - 1,400. Mike found me before the BOC set. We chatted and then the Oysterboys emerged and proceeded to rip the roof off the place!! They were smokin' (and not just Allen!). Buck was having a great time. Eric seemed somewhat subdued. Setlist was definately skewed on the Buck side. Also, Eric has changed the way he sings some songs (specifically Cities and ETI). Keeps it in the lower register. And Buck's backing him up more with support vocals. On the other hand, Eric sounded fine when he did sing. Allen spent 80% of his time on guitar. Last time I saw them (2 1/2 years ago at the start of Eric's vocal problems) he spent 80% on keys. Great show. I'm ready for Oklahoma City tomorrow night! Ric From abrevard at SHL.COM Fri Aug 14 09:54:56 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:54:56 -0500 Subject: BOC Review of Aug 13th show. Message-ID: Two questions Mike, What was the band order, Naz/AW/BOC of Naz/BOC/AW? Did AW play If You See Kay? I love that song. Thanks Ghost in the Ruins "Isn't sanity just a one trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking. But when your good and crazy the sky's the limit." -The Tick OBcd - King's X - Dogman From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Fri Aug 14 13:55:40 1998 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:55:40 EDT Subject: BOC Review of Aug 13th show. Message-ID: In a message dated 08/14/98 11:08:53 AM Central Daylight Time, abrevard at SHL.COM writes: << What was the band order, Naz/AW/BOC of Naz/BOC/AW? >> The first - Naz/AW/BOC. Per the OKC venue, that's the same order for Sat... Ric From lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU Fri Aug 14 14:53:39 1998 From: lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU (dave cohen) Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 14:53:39 -0400 Subject: OT: comics -- cerebus 232 In-Reply-To: <16f06795.35d47a1e@aol.com> from "Rocker22@AOL.COM" at Aug 14, 98 01:55:40 pm Message-ID: sorry to post a personal request like this... are there any comic shop owners (or anyone who has a spare copy of cerebus 232, july 1998) that can send me a copy for cost+postage? please contact me directly thank you dave cohen lapis at pobox.upenn.edu From christmu at EUNET.NO Fri Aug 14 19:17:28 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 01:17:28 +0200 Subject: HW: Strange Daze Dream till tomorrow Message-ID: I find myself listening to this stonkingly good pre-techno Shamen CD, looping Strange Days Dream and a couple of other tracks today, *completely* unaware that the catchyness of this very CD may be attributed to some madness inducing subliminal forces at work emanating from western lands! Where's that tin foil!?? ARGH! I beg you to return to your regularly scheduled deprogrammaning at http://www.now-online.com/jmfinity not in Sweden, fearing the bane of The Black M??se, Chr- (who thinks Swedish beer should be prohibited 7 days a week) From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Aug 15 16:11:40 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1998 21:11:40 +0100 Subject: OFFISH: UK TV & TOURS Message-ID: A couple to check the TV guides for. BBC are starting a new series of Rock Family Trees in September. One called "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" is self explanatory and there's also a prog special, about which I have no details, but surely there has to be some HW. Definately off, but possibly of interest - Marillion are touring soon and Man are beginning their 30th anniversary tour at the end of October. Z NP: Soulburn - Feeding On Angels -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Sat Aug 15 20:51:54 1998 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 00:51:54 +0000 Subject: Strange Daze Cybercast!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 12 Aug 98 at 20:20, Eric Siegerman wrote: > If you can't be at Strange Daze '98 in person, at least you'll be > able to join us in spirit. Looks as though Jim Lascko (the > promoter/organizer/space-rock god) will be cybercasting the whole > thing! > > http://www.now-online.com/jmfinity/cybercast.htm > This looks nothing like a "cybercast". :-(((((((((( Anyone have any ideas about this???? Alasdair -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sun Aug 16 11:41:58 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 16:41:58 +0100 Subject: OFFISH: UK TV & TOURS In-Reply-To: Stuart A Hamilton's message of Sat, 15 Aug 1998 21:11:40 +0100 Message-ID: Stuart A Hamilton writes: > A couple to check the TV guides for. BBC are starting a new > series of Rock Family Trees in September. One called > "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" is self explanatory and there's > also a prog special, about which I have no details, but > surely there has to be some HW. Thanks for this! I think the Beeb may have done something similar to this a while ago that I'm sure I remember watching. It must have proved successful but there were some very explicit comments made by ex-band members of various groups and I wondered at the time whether any ex-Hawkwind member would *dare* to be interviewed on TV about Hawkwind history - at least while the band is still around and willing to issue libel writs! > > Definately off, but possibly of interest - Marillion are > touring soon and Man are beginning their 30th anniversary > tour at the end of October. > Even further off topic but I went to see Steve Harley doing an acoustic set last night. Admittedly his voice is a bit off these days but his guitar playing is fine and the person playing with him (Nick Pynn) is a brilliant, brilliant musician and the two of them work off each other with incredible power and tension. I have never heard two acoustic guitars played with such intensity - utterly brilliant. Apparently the two of them will be playing with a rock band tonight and tomorrow somewhere down in Shropshire before returning to Edinburgh - so if there is anyone in the Shropshire area look for posters and go along. You will not be disappointed! jill obDisappointingGig> Spiritualized. Gospel choir and Barber Shop harmony. Not what I expected! ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Aug 16 11:59:01 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 16:59:01 +0100 Subject: OFFISH: UK TV & TOURS Message-ID: Yes, they did. I've still got a tape of the Deep Purple one, which was certainly frank and forthright. It was extremely noticeable that a certain Mr Blackmore refused to participate. There was also an extremely amusing one on Fleetwood Mac. Have to agree about Steve Harley. Nothing better to do so I crashed in Princes Street Gardens and was very pleasantly surprised. I'd never heard anything bar the obvious singles. Z NP: SLAYER - WAR ENSEMBLE J Strobridge wrote: > Thanks for this! I think the Beeb may have done something similar > to this a while ago that I'm sure I remember watching. It must have > proved successful but there were some very explicit comments made by > ex-band members of various groups and I wondered at the time whether > any ex-Hawkwind member would *dare* to be interviewed on TV about > Hawkwind history - at least while the band is still around and willing > to issue libel writs! > > Even further off topic but I went to see Steve Harley doing an acoustic > set last night. Admittedly his voice is a bit off these days but his > guitar playing is fine and the person playing with him (Nick Pynn) is a > brilliant, brilliant musician and the two of them work off each other > with incredible power and tension. I have never heard two acoustic > guitars played with such intensity - utterly brilliant. Apparently the > two of them will be playing with a rock band tonight and tomorrow > somewhere down in Shropshire before returning to Edinburgh - so if there > is anyone in the Shropshire area look for posters and go along. You > will not be disappointed! > > jill > -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From christmu at EUNET.NO Sun Aug 16 11:55:17 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 17:55:17 +0200 Subject: HW: TRANSMISSION FROM STRANGE DAZE! Message-ID: Looks like Dave & Ron got caught! Bummer. Chr- >X-From_: jkranitz at infinet.com Sun Aug 16 17:48:53 1998 >Comments: Authenticated sender is >From: "Jerry Kranitz" >To: christmu at eunet.no >Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1998 11:43:15 +0000 >Subject: Re: SD2 >Priority: normal >X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) > >Hey Christian - I just got home and only have a moment but I wanted >to get a word in before the Hawk list gets cluttered up with shit >about SD2. OK.... Dave Brock and Ron Tree were NOT there. They got >hung up at customs and were not permitted in the country. Richard >and Jerry were joined by members of a Hawkwind cover band from >Cleveland. Plus, they only got to play an hour due to a neighborhood >curfew. > >That's the bad news. Now maybe I'm being pessimistic about people's >attitudes, but the weekend was a total blast and all the bands were >great. Hell, there's even a few today but I couldn't stay due to a >work commitment. Jim Laszko did a hell of a job and anyone who felt >cheated missed the whole point of the weekend. This was a SpaceRock >festival, not just a Hawkwind concert. It was wonderful. > >So if you do start seeing negative posts feel free to reprint this >note to the list. Hopefully, though, everyone else feels the way I >do. > >Gotta dash. > > From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Mon Aug 17 00:40:32 1998 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 00:40:32 -0400 Subject: HW: TRANSMISSION FROM STRANGE DAZE! Message-ID: Chr. forwards the word from my buddy (and neighbor) Jerry Kranitz... >Looks like Dave & Ron got caught! Bummer. >Chr- >>Hey Christian - I just got home and only have a moment but I wanted >>to get a word in before the Hawk list gets cluttered up with shit >>about SD2. OK.... Dave Brock and Ron Tree were NOT there. They got >>hung up at customs and were not permitted in the country. Richard >>and Jerry were joined by members of a Hawkwind cover band from >>Cleveland. Plus, they only got to play an hour due to a neighborhood >>curfew. I've just got in myself...looks like I might be one of the first home, since I'm only a couple hours away. :) For those in the know, we're talking about Steve Taylor (on bass) and Steve Hayes (on keys) from the loose association of HW fans that play HW cover tunes now and agian under the moniker 'Sun Machine.' So 'tnqHWb' was officially... Capt. Rizz+ - Vocals, Antics, Frontman, Synth (that he twiddled with here & there) Jerry Richards - Guitar, Lead Vocals (on most HW stds) Steve Taylor - Bass Steve Hayes - Synths (he never came out from behind...I thought Dave was there!) :) Richard Chadwick - Drums, apologies, and promises >From my perspective, Chadwick was really the key to them being able to perform at all. There was *some* amount of looking around like, 'OK, what'r you going to play just now...and I'll follow'. I think Chadwick deserves a lot of credit being able to keep the proverbial steady beat and guide everyone through it. He really has been the best drummer for HW over all these years IMHO. (And he remembered me from previous tours!) Of course, Jerry's a fine guitarist (sometimes he forgets to sing *into* the microphone though) and plays those crunching riffs just fine. Set list included things like... Assault & Battery/Golden Void (ahhh!! 16 for 16 shows for me with at least tGV) Brainstorm (standard working but with the reggae dub center portion) Time we left... (I think this was the crowd favourite) Spirit of the Age (it was Bob's weekend after all) (subtle version...nice) Space is Deep (neary unrecognizable version...not one of Capt. Rizz' finer moments) some brand new made up stuff on the spot (Richard shouted out a title, so you'll have it on the live tapes for the record...) Capt. Rizz+ reggae ranting in middle of Brainstorm (OK, I admit it...I liked it) a 70-minute set that was rather enjoyable, if you accept the circumstances (which I did). I hope a high percentage of people in the audience were accepting as well. >From rumours I heard, it was debts that Ron owed from an arrest here last time (?) that held him out, and somehow they were able to keep Dave out as well. I guess 'leader of the group' responsibility passed the entry refusal onto him as well. They were both in Niagara Falls I heard, although someone had also said that Ron had already been sent back to the UK. What happened with the cybercast?? I don't have my own computer (and these work computers are not wired up for sound), so I know nothing of such technology. Did anything happen?? Chris Bruce was there and I got the impression that maybe he was responsible for that part. Perhaps I am mistaken? I also heard something about a DAT tape (recording) fiasco. But there were numerous personal camcorders and microphones all over the place. I overheard some nice audio from Jim Collins, so no doubt several versions of audience recordings will pass through listmembers hands. So then we can have a vote as to whether this officially counts as a Hawkwind gig on Bernhard's list. :) I met lots of good folks there...many for the second, third, fourth time, etc. And wonder about the folks I expected to see there, but didn't. I hope those folks simply had other commitments as opposed to travelling fiascos. Arc Met and Born to Go both had separate travelling difficulties, which led to some lineup shuffling, but everyone on the schedule (including an im promptu performance from California's Finally Balanced) played. (Well, Nash the Slash wasn't there as previously stated. But Melting Euphoria did make it.) I should have time in the next few days to do a more comprehensive music review on the whole weekend...I heard pretty much every note. Almost all of them were really good ones. I had said earlier that this festival was really now about Space Rock in the USA, a concept I really tried to push there (in conjunction with Aural Innovations and Jerry Kranitz), and I think my feelings were justified, as there are now many very capable bands ready here to attain feature status (like in Scandinavia). HW is still welcome any time, and Richard promised that they'd *all* be back next year. Jim seemed very happy at the turnout...I think there were many more than last year (I wasn't at last year's, so I can't be sure). And Richard continued by saying that they didn't want to do anything stupid like smuggle Dave & Ron across the border, as they'd certainly lose any hope of ever coming back. So what's up in Jonkoping? Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Pressurehed was amazing. I was completely knocked out by their sonic blitz and crazed lightshow (from Rob the Midnight Sun guy...nice fellow). P.P.S. Long distance traveller award - Thomas from Germany (another nice fellow) ObCD picked up at SD98 - Liquid Sound Company - Exploring the Psychedelic (more Texas psych/space!) From hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET Mon Aug 17 01:03:39 1998 From: hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 00:03:39 -0500 Subject: HW: SD 98 Message-ID: Just got in from the show. Biggest news: Dave Brock and Ron were not allowed in the country(good ol' USA for ya), I'm sure more news on that will get posted. Jerry, Richard, and Captain Rizz(I think) played with a couple stand-ins. They played about six songs with some extended jams. From memory they played Time WE Left, Warrior at the Edge of Time, Space is Deep, Golden Void, Brainstorm. It was about 65 minutes. I'm sure they did their best, but it wasn't quite for me. Arc Met, who I was looking forward to seeing, was unable to play Friday as scheduled because of a theft that had taken place the day before. They were however rescheduled for Sunday at noon, but I had to leave early Sunday for the 12 hour drive home. F/i put on a great show, I'd have to say it was my favorite of the weekend. Something really seemed to irritate Brian(the guitarist) after a few songs, he just about threw his guitar down and was pointing at the speakers, anybody know what happened? Pressure Head put on a good show too, vocals were a little too buried though. The sound system was great, really clean sound. Attendance seemed up from last year, and there were many new faces. I ran into a few list people; Bob Lennon, Eric Sigelman (sp), Keith Henderson, and Stephen Lindsey. I took a bunch of pictures and will get them on the net when I have a chance. Hope it happens again next year, it was well worth the long drive. From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Mon Aug 17 03:41:24 1998 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 03:41:24 EDT Subject: HW: SD 98 Chaos in charge Message-ID: also just got back from Strange daze 98, popped in my videos ... look great... the audio tapes, however are all fucked... tape deck problems....oh well.... bob From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Mon Aug 17 03:49:39 1998 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 03:49:39 EDT Subject: HW: Chadwind Message-ID: One note about the Hawkwind performance at SD98 the hawks that made it to the festival did an excellent job carrying the torch.... Richard, Jerry & Capt Rizz kicked butt space is chaos bob From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Mon Aug 17 00:37:43 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 04:37:43 +0000 Subject: OFF: Calling all comics people! Message-ID: Just out of curiosity, since I know there are at least a few people on the list who know their comic book, I was wondering if anyone could give me a rough estimate of what the following are worth and whether they'll ever be worth anything decent... Alice Cooper: The Last Temptation -- Set of all three, really good condition. Army of Darkness -- Again, all three, really good condition, from Dark Horse comics. I don't know if any different ones were ever made, but this one has the "original" ending, where Ash sleeps past the holocaust. Marvel Comics Godzilla -- The original series, all 24, from the early 80s -- condition varies. If anyone could help out, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks. -- Nick From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 17 06:38:17 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:38:17 +0100 Subject: OFF The Avengers cast list In-Reply-To: Steven Tice's message of Fri, 7 Aug 1998 23:24:55 EDT Message-ID: Steven Tice writes: > In a message dated 98-08-07 07:07:50 EDT, you write: > > << I've heard that The Avengers has also got Shaun Ryder and Eddy Izzard in > it. >> > > Cheez, last I checked the Avengers still had Captain America, Thor, and Iron > Man! Guess I'm really out of the loop...:-) Gee. What happened to Hawkeye? Did he ever get it together with that Black Widow bitch? > SET > (Comics shop owner, in case you'd forgotten...:-) FoFP (Long time ago reader of Fantastic and Terrific comics) P.S. What's the scoop on the X-Men? I caught a cartoon of it on telly and their lineup had changed with this new character called "Wolverine". In my day it usedta be Cyclops, Beast, Iceman, Angel and the woman with the TK powers. From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Mon Aug 17 07:31:51 1998 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 12:31:51 +0100 Subject: OFF The Avengers cast list In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:38:17 BST." <199808171038.LAA21008@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > FoFP (Long time ago reader of Fantastic and Terrific comics) > > P.S. What's the scoop on the X-Men? I caught a cartoon of it on telly > and their lineup had changed with this new character called "Wolverine". Go listen to some Entombed. They'll fill you in. :-) > In my day it usedta be Cyclops, Beast, Iceman, Angel and the woman with > the TK powers. Tim From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon Aug 17 10:08:46 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 10:08:46 -0400 Subject: OFF: Lyrics Message-ID: Just found this site on the net when looking for Hawkwind lyrics. www.lyrics.ch Seems to have the whole kit & kaboodle lyrics-wise for HW, BOC, etc. From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Mon Aug 17 10:19:03 1998 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 10:19:03 EDT Subject: BOC Oklahoma City Show - 08/15/98 Message-ID: Went to the OKC show Sat night. The show was an outdoors concert, presented in the back parking lot of the Bricktown Brewery. I got there late, in the middle of the Nazareth set. April Wine apparently went first. I neglected to bring a pen, but my recollection is that the setlist is the same as the Wichita show two nights earlier, except the encore was TR&TB instead of D&S. Before their set (which started at 10:35), the radio guy doing the band intro said "There's no curfew tonight and these guys might just play all night!". I had my doubts. After an 80 minute set, they came back out for the encore. Eric said "No curfew, huh? (Crowd cheers) We've gotta be in El Paso tomorrow night, but I guess we've got time for one more!" (Combination of cheers and boos) They then ripped into and through TR&TB. 85 minutes total. Finished at midnight. Curfew wasn't an issue... Band looked and sounded great at the show. Bass and drum solos during 'Zilla were longer than in Wichita. R. From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Mon Aug 17 10:21:11 1998 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 10:21:11 EDT Subject: BOC Oklahoma City Show - 08/15/98 Message-ID: BTW, the setlist for the OKC show was: Burning For You Cities on Flame ETI Harvest Moon Buck?s Boogie This Ain?t the Summer of Love The Vigil Live for Me Flaming Telepaths See you in Black Last Days of May Godzilla Don?t Fear The Reaper Encore of Thee Red And The Black R. From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Aug 17 10:24:40 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 15:24:40 +0100 Subject: OFF: Lyrics In-Reply-To: <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD010E7280@EMSS05M03.ems.lmco.com> Message-ID: "He's as drunk as a Kangaroo's Carburetor"??? Not very reliable I wouldn't say! - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Hall, Russell J > Sent: 17 August 1998 15:09 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: OFF: Lyrics > > > Just found this site on the net when looking for Hawkwind lyrics. > > www.lyrics.ch > > Seems to have the whole kit & kaboodle lyrics-wise for HW, BOC, etc. > From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon Aug 17 10:40:52 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 10:40:52 -0400 Subject: Lyrics Message-ID: Another site that was brought to my attention is www.kissthisguy.com Its a list of real lyrics and lyrics people THOUGHT they were. "Excuse my while I kiss this guy" :) Yes, BOC does have an entry - Betcha can guess which one. So far my fav is "Your love is like bad venison" From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon Aug 17 10:55:22 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 10:55:22 -0400 Subject: OFF: Lyrics Message-ID: I'm only vouching for the accuracy of the internet address. :) I guess I should change the name of this threat to Way Off lyrics, eh? ah . . . which song is this from? > "He's as drunk as a Kangaroo's Carburetor"??? Not very reliable I > wouldn't > say! > > - Andy > BTW> while we are on the subject of lyrics does anyone know the real words to BOC's song Deadline? In particular, the following verse. Bill screamed at him, and he hung up the phone I wonder if he ever felt more alone He never finished his coffee that night The (????) oh! Dave, it was a terrible sight From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Aug 17 11:05:31 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 16:05:31 +0100 Subject: OFF: Lyrics In-Reply-To: <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD010E7282@EMSS05M03.ems.lmco.com> Message-ID: > ah . . . which song is this from? > > > "He's as drunk as a Kangaroo's Carburetor"??? Not very reliable I > > wouldn't > > say! > > "Flying Doctor" - always a good litmus test for HW lyric accuracy! Noone seems to be able to figure Calvert's Aussie accent... it should be "about as tight as a kangaroo's Khyber, I'd say", of course :) > > > BTW> while we are on the subject of lyrics does anyone know the real words > to BOC's song Deadline? In particular, the following verse. > > Bill screamed at him, and he hung up the phone > I wonder if he ever felt more alone > He never finished his coffee that night > The (????) oh! Dave, it was a terrible sight > Phil screamed at him, and he hung up the phone I wonder if he ever felt more alone He never finished his coffee that night The photo they showed David was a terrible sight I think Bolle Gregmar is still selling those official lyric books :) - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Mon Aug 17 11:12:26 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:12:26 -0400 Subject: OFF: Lyrics Message-ID: Hall, Russell J [mailto:russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM] said: >BTW> while we are on the subject of lyrics does anyone know the real words >to BOC's song Deadline? In particular, the following verse. > >Bill screamed at him, and he hung up the phone >I wonder if he ever felt more alone >He never finished his coffee that night >The (????) oh! Dave, it was a terrible sight The photo they showed David was a terrible sight Brian OB radio program> Universal Buzz Radio 8/16- The Bevis Frond ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- From abrevard at SHL.COM Mon Aug 17 11:26:56 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 10:26:56 -0500 Subject: OFF: Calling all comics people! Message-ID: >Alice Cooper: The Last Temptation -- Set of all three, really good condition. A mini-series I take it. May have better than list value but not by much I'd guess. >Army of Darkness -- Again, all three, really good condition, from Dark Horse comics. I don't know if any different ones were ever made, but this one has the "original" ending, where Ash sleeps past the holocaust. May have some cult fanatics willing to pay a bit over market rate. >Marvel Comics Godzilla -- The original series, all 24, from the early 80s -- condition varies. A zilla fanatic may pay above market but don't think there are too many of them out there. Series never made sense to begin with. A lot like the defunct cartoon. I may be wrong but I doubt if this series has any real value at all. >If anyone could help out, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks. One or more of the shop owners can probably give you list/guide prices on all of these. Now if you had some original mint condition Jack Kirby Fantastic Four...some Neal Adma's Green Latern/Green Arrow...well... Hey didn't someone mention recently that Frank Frazzettta had passed? Tragic. Adored those Conan covers, Frank was awesome. Ghost in the Ruins OBgood monster movie Re-make of Gamera. This 90's version is really good. From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon Aug 17 11:29:31 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:29:31 -0400 Subject: OFF: Lyrics Message-ID: Thanks - I grabbed the verse from the aforementioned mentioned site > > Bill screamed at him, and he hung up the phone > > I wonder if he ever felt more alone > > He never finished his coffee that night > > The (????) oh! Dave, it was a terrible sight > > > > > > I think Bolle Gregmar is still selling those official lyric books :) > I've been meaning to get one, but . . . What is a khyber? I have a guess, but I'd hate to be wrong From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Mon Aug 17 07:46:59 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:46:59 +0000 Subject: Lyrics Message-ID: > Another site that was brought to my attention is > > www.kissthisguy.com > > Its a list of real lyrics and lyrics people THOUGHT they were. There was a book on this with the title "Scuse me while I kiss this guy". Pretty funny stuff. I wonder if the website is connected? -- Nick From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 17 11:43:49 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:43:49 EDT Subject: OFF: Lyrics In-Reply-To: <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD010E7283@EMSS05M03.ems.lmco.com> Message-ID: > From: "Hall, Russell J" > > What is a khyber? I have a guess, but I'd hate to be wrong It's a place in Pakistan... theo From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Aug 17 06:38:10 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:38:10 +0100 Subject: OFFISH: UK TV & TOURS In-Reply-To: <199808161541.QAA05007@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <199808161541.QAA05007 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, J Strobridge writes >jill > >obDisappointingGig> Spiritualized. Gospel choir and Barber Shop >harmony. Not what I expected! "Oh Happy day!!! Oh happy day!!! When Jesus washed, When Jesus washed, My sins away!!" You're saying that's not spacerock? :-) You're lucky, they can't do the choir at every gig. It's fair to say it's choir *plus* blistering white noise feedback metalstorm on top. His thing about gospel is not at all dissimilar to Lou Reed's Jesus bit with the Velvets i.e junkie no-hoper acknowledeges that he is damned beyond redemption. sort of. Works for me! Hmmm, the barber shop bits new to me though! -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Aug 17 06:20:07 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:20:07 +0100 Subject: OFF: Calling all comics people! In-Reply-To: <199808170831.EAA04786@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: In article <199808170831.EAA04786 at junior.srt.net>, writes > > >Alice Cooper: The Last Temptation -- Set of all three, really good >condition. > Cover Price if mint >Army of Darkness -- Again, all three, really good condition, from Dark >Horse comics. I don't know if any different ones were ever made, but >this one has the "original" ending, where Ash sleeps past the >holocaust. Cover Price if mint > >Marvel Comics Godzilla -- The original series, all 24, from the early >80s -- condition varies. Latest mint price: #1 $7 #2 $5 #3-#10 $4 each #11-#24 $3 each These are recent enough for collectors to buy only mint copies. Therefore if they are not mint, you'll be lucky to get 10% of the above. -- Jon From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Mon Aug 17 12:01:15 1998 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 17:01:15 +0100 Subject: OFFISH: UK TV & TOURS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article <199808161541.QAA05007 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, J Strobridge writes >obDisappointingGig> Spiritualized. Gospel choir and Barber Shop >harmony. Not what I expected! That wasn't just a Spiritualised gig. It was a Spiritualised + Steve Martland gig, combining a rock group with a classical composer, along the lines of last years Divine Comedy + Michael Nyman. So some of the pieces were pure Spiritualised (with the choir doing the backing vocals), and some were pure Steve Martland (e.g. the pieces with the choir alone). IMO, the combination worked best when the band started jamming over a minimalist rhythm on the xylophone or clarinet. The advertising for the gig was a bit dubious. In all the brochures the gig was correctly explained, but in the box office window it was just displayed as Spiritualised. There were some very disappointed rock fans in the audience. I thought is was interesting, but not very satisfying. The choir pieces highlighted the presence of the choir in the Spiritualised pieces, but were otherwise out of place (and not very good anyway). The minimalist pieces were quite good. But the band pieces were the most satisfying. I think the basic problem is that Steve Martland just isn't that good a composer (IMO). Dave. ObUpcomingGig: John Zorn's Masada. Harlequin Ltd., Lismore House, 127 George St, Edinburgh, EH2 4JN, UK. Tel: +44 131 240 6106. From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Aug 17 12:00:35 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 17:00:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: Lyrics In-Reply-To: <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD010E7283@EMSS05M03.ems.lmco.com> Message-ID: > > What is a khyber? I have a guess, but I'd hate to be wrong > Rhyming slang... Khyber Pass, arse... - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From flossbac at WCIC.CIOE.COM Mon Aug 17 12:38:16 1998 From: flossbac at WCIC.CIOE.COM (John Majka) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:38:16 -0500 Subject: SD98 brief report... Message-ID: Well I managed the 6-hour drive to Strange Daze '98, and it was an experience not to be missed! Jerry Richards and Richard Chadwick and Captain Rizz were easily accessible and could be seen wandering around the campsites, generally hanging out and chatting with festival goers. I looked around for Dave Brock and Ron Tree and never saw them, and I soon found out why when HW began to take the stage--sans Dave and Ron--and Richard made the announcement that Dave and Ron were held up by customs and had not been granted entrance to the USA. It was a serious letdown! Nevertheless, Jerry and Richard and Rizz (plus two fill-in guys) tried to make it through the show. They played as best they could, but the truth is that it wasn't very good! Let's see...songs I remember include Spirit of the Age, Space Is Deep, Brainstorm, Assault and Battery, Golden Void, and a brand new one called "Starfire Mountain" which Richard said they had written about the festival site (presumably while encamped there). The bass player was pretty unremarkable...he played the basic chord progressions, but there were no fills or elaborations at all. And of course HW progressions are pretty simple two or three chord progressions usually, so without fills etc. the bass was DULL. Regarding Captain Rizz....hmmm..... did anyone think his performance added anything? It seems he really can't sing...and he didn't know any of the lyrics (he read them from the HW lyric book, which is hillarious considering how the lyrics printed there are in many cases wrong). I really really wish they would lose Rizz. For those who haven't experienced him before, he's a reggae singer really, with all the reggae moves and vocalizations and lyrics like "jump up and down and spin yourself around" etc. I don't know....it just wasn't very Hawkwind-esque. Also tending to mess up the HW experience was this one asshole in the audience, dead center front row (right next to me, unfortunately) who was a drunken idiot who kept LOUDLY and SHRILLY whistling unceasingly. When others asked him to quiet down or chill out, he said, "This is the only way to get a show going!" What a knucklehead. His behavior became worse as he started shouting nonsensical stuff at the top of his lungs, like "White Crayon!" It was incredibly irritating, and finally people were saying to him, "Shut the Fu## up!" He told me, "Hey if a right hook comes over and hits you in the face, it doesn't have anything to do with you." This threat of violence was enough to cause me to move away from him, and sure enough a few minutes later I saw that some sort of minor little brawl had started. I think someone must have removed him from the crowd because I didn't see him thereafter... Anyways, there's some info from the SD98 fest....there's a lot more to be said, about the scene and the other bands, but I need to get running. John Majka flossbac at wcic.cioe.com From mordru at FLITE.NET Mon Aug 17 12:39:05 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 12:39:05 -0400 Subject: OFF: Lyrics Message-ID: >> From: "Hall, Russell J" >> >> What is a khyber? I have a guess, but I'd hate to be wrong > > >It's a place in Pakistan... I don't think that's what was being talking about, but isn't the pass in Afghanistan, not Pakistan? -AAA From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 17 13:03:25 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 13:03:25 EDT Subject: OFF: Lyrics In-Reply-To: <199808171639.MAA18261@in.flite.net> Message-ID: From: "Andrew A. Apold" > >> From: "Hall, Russell J" > >> > >> What is a khyber? I have a guess, but I'd hate to be wrong > > > > > >It's a place in Pakistan... > > I don't think that's what was being talking about, but > isn't the pass in Afghanistan, not Pakistan? > Well, Khyber is in Pakistan, a part that was in India at one time. The Khyber Pass, a different place, is indeed bet. Afg. and pak... theo From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Aug 17 13:28:41 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 18:28:41 +0100 Subject: OFF: Lyrics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Well, Khyber is in Pakistan, a part that was in India at one time. > The Khyber Pass, a different place, is indeed bet. Afg. and pak... Well, it was on the North West Frontier, but I suppose they've given it some newfangled name now, harrumph... immortalised in the classic Britfilm _Carry on Up the Khyber_, starring Kenneth Williams as the Khazi of Kalabar, if memory serves... - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 17 13:53:25 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 18:53:25 +0100 Subject: OFF un-Spiritualised In-Reply-To: Jon Browne's message of Mon, 17 Aug 1998 11:38:10 +0100 Message-ID: Jon Browne writes: > You're lucky, they can't do the choir at every gig. It's fair to say > it's choir *plus* blistering white noise feedback metalstorm on top. They separated them out for this show - it was very much either noise or slow vocals - 80% vocals. Someone musta told them they were performing in a converted church so they decided to treat it seriously. > > Hmmm, the barber shop bits new to me though! A long endless 4-part harmony song about the life and death of someone or another. But the sound quality was pretty crap as well as everything else and all we could glean from it was the fact that she eventually and mercifully, died in the end. I have to say that many of the audience were getting restless by this point and some serious catcalling was building up in the body of the kirk but we left before it escalated further. Since then I've listened to their album on cassette which is really quite good in parts, reminiscent of later Gong, but bears almost no resemblance at all to the show they put on for us the other night. Wierd but I guess it shows that Hawkwind aren't the only band to put on a stage show completely at variance to their album release. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 17 13:56:21 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 18:56:21 +0100 Subject: OFFISH: UK TV & TOURS In-Reply-To: Dave Berry's message of Mon, 17 Aug 1998 17:01:15 +0100 Message-ID: Dave Berry writes: > In article <199808161541.QAA05007 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, J Strobridge > writes > >obDisappointingGig> Spiritualized. Gospel choir and Barber Shop > >harmony. Not what I expected! > > That wasn't just a Spiritualised gig. It was a Spiritualised + Steve > Martland gig, combining a rock group with a classical composer, along the ah - thank you! All is revelation. I'll pass this info on - it'll be appreciated. Thanks. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From fn62 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Aug 17 16:30:20 1998 From: fn62 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Alison Hopkins) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 21:30:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: Lyrics Message-ID: >> Well, Khyber is in Pakistan, a part that was in India at one time. >> The Khyber Pass, a different place, is indeed bet. Afg. and pak... > >Well, it was on the North West Frontier, but I suppose they've given it some >newfangled name now, harrumph... immortalised in the classic Britfilm >_Carry on Up the Khyber_, starring Kenneth Williams as the Khazi of Kalabar, >if memory serves... > Maybe it's the classic rhyming slang.... Ali From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Mon Aug 17 20:20:07 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 20:20:07 -0400 Subject: HW: TRANSMISSION FROM STRANGE DAZE II Message-ID: Just back. No Dave. No Ron. It STILL KICKED ASS. The sound system sucked. Ask any band member of any band that played there. The fill in bass player was at least as good as Ron Tree, maybe better. Jerry Richards needs a headset mic. The new version of Space is Deep is the lousiest bit of noise I have ever heard. Made me want to go shopping at k-mart. Jerry was awesome, great interaction, killer vocals on Spirit of the Age. Rizz was cool, but too much repetition, too much "hip-hype." (Anyone who thinks he can't sing hasn't heard his new album- "I can see clearly now the brain is gone.") Richard did an incredible introduction which (at least in MY camp,) earned him the name Richard the Savage. {{{{{WE ARE WHAT"S LEFT!!!!!}}}} The camp ground was a cesspool. The people who ran it were great, but inadequate facilities, uncontrolled raiding by local animals (spelled p-u-n-k-s,) and a terrible stage setup, made it tuff to enjoy. Still it was a great time, and I for one think that the tapes from this gig will be in HIGH demand. I truly believe Dave would have been VERY PROUD of his mates. Oh yeah. One thing sucked. This over-acid-dosed fruit tried to torch himself in our bon-fire. I had to drag him out. RJ From StevenTice at AOL.COM Mon Aug 17 23:42:39 1998 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 23:42:39 EDT Subject: OFF The Avengers/Comics Message-ID: In a message dated 98-08-17 06:41:03 EDT, you write: > Cheez, last I checked the Avengers still had Captain America, Thor, and Iron > Man! Guess I'm really out of the loop...:-) Gee. What happened to Hawkeye? Did he ever get it together with that Black Widow bitch? FoFP (Long time ago reader of Fantastic and Terrific comics) P.S. What's the scoop on the X-Men? I caught a cartoon of it on telly and their lineup had changed with this new character called "Wolverine". In my day it usedta be Cyclops, Beast, Iceman, Angel and the woman with the TK powers. >> You're making me feel young! :-) When I was just a kid starting to read comics--in the mid-seventies--Wolverine was, in fact, a fairly new character...now he's 25 years old! There are literally dozens of X-Men now...heck, there's something like ten different X-Men related comics published every month! So I guess you could say things have changed a lot in the past few decades...:-) SET P.S. The Black Widow was sharing cover billing with Daredevil by the early seventies...her relationship with Hawkeye was old news even back when I started reading comics...:-) From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Tue Aug 18 00:23:15 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 04:23:15 +0000 Subject: OFF: Calling all comics people! Message-ID: > One or more of the shop owners can probably give you list/guide prices > on all of these. Now if you had some original mint condition Jack Kirby > Fantastic Four...some Neal Adma's Green Latern/Green Arrow...well... Actually, now that you mention it, and since I see some X-men talk going on...I do have that old Fantastic Four where they fight, then team up with, the X-men. I think it's the first appearance by X-men, but I'm not sure. Definitely not in mint condition. Is that one worth anything? > OBgood monster movie Re-make of Gamera. This 90's version is really > good. Liked the monster, but I didn't really care for the opponents. Extra points, however, for most gratuitous bird-crap scene since Mel Brooks' "High Anxiety". -- Nick From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Tue Aug 18 00:28:23 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 04:28:23 +0000 Subject: OFF: Calling all comics people! Message-ID: > These are recent enough for collectors to buy only mint copies. > Therefore if they are not mint, you'll be lucky to get 10% of the above. > > -- > Jon Darn. Looks like I won't be trying to sell any of these for some time! I have a whole bunch of comics from the late 70s, early 80s...and some from much earlier. But unfortunately, when I bought 'em, I bought 'em to read, not collect! I don't think I've got a mint condition comic book in my entire collection. It's sad...I go through my old closet at my mother's house and see all the broken toys, ratty comic books and dog-eared baseball cards and I wonder just how much cash I screwed myself out of when I was a kid! -- Nick From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Aug 18 04:23:44 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 09:23:44 +0100 Subject: OFF: Calling all comics people! In-Reply-To: <199808180821.EAA26652@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: > Darn. Looks like I won't be trying to sell any of these for some > time! I have a whole bunch of comics from the late 70s, early > 80s...and some from much earlier. But unfortunately, when I bought > 'em, I bought 'em to read, not collect! I think you had the right attitude, myself... :) - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Aug 17 12:16:12 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 17:16:12 +0100 Subject: OFF: Lyrics In-Reply-To: <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD010E7283@EMSS05M03.ems.lmco.com> Message-ID: In article <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD010E7283 at EMSS05M03.ems.lmco. com>, Hall, Russell J writes >What is a khyber? I have a guess, but I'd hate to be wrong Rhyming slang, mate. Khyber pass = arse -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Aug 17 12:17:39 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 17:17:39 +0100 Subject: OFF: Calling all comics people! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , BREVARD, Adrian R. writes >Hey didn't someone mention recently that Frank Frazzettta had passed? >Tragic. Adored those Conan covers, Frank was awesome. Reports of his death are exagerated. He had a couple of strokes 18 months or so ago, but he's still with us AFAIK. -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Aug 17 12:14:35 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 17:14:35 +0100 Subject: OFF The Avengers cast list In-Reply-To: <199808171038.LAA21008@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <199808171038.LAA21008 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >P.S. What's the scoop on the X-Men? I caught a cartoon of it on telly >and their lineup had changed with this new character called "Wolverine". >In my day it usedta be Cyclops, Beast, Iceman, Angel and the woman with >the TK powers. Marvel Girl. Jeezuz, Mike, that was nearly 30 years ago! The team was dormant for years, Beast joined The Avengers etc etc. The All-New X-Men i.e. Wolverine etc was launched in, what, 1975? Do you *really* want to know any more about this? -- Jon From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Aug 18 07:59:44 1998 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 12:59:44 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 17 Aug 1998 to 18 Aug 1998 In-Reply-To: <199808180900.FAA24310@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: >Subject: Re: OFF: Lyrics >>> From: "Hall, Russell J" >>> >>> What is a khyber? I have a guess, but I'd hate to be wrong >> >> >>It's a place in Pakistan... > >I don't think that's what was being talking about, but >isn't the pass in Afghanistan, not Pakistan? AFAIK it's from Cockney Rhyming slang (UK) Khyber Pass = Ass (Arse, Butt, Khyster etc etc) Anyone willing to confirm/deny. Mark ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please reply to mark at esparto.demon.co.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Aug 18 05:14:30 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 10:14:30 +0100 Subject: OFF: Calling all comics people! In-Reply-To: <199808180821.EAA26652@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: In article <199808180821.EAA26652 at junior.srt.net>, writes > >Darn. Looks like I won't be trying to sell any of these for some >time! I have a whole bunch of comics from the late 70s, early >80s...and some from much earlier. But unfortunately, when I bought >'em, I bought 'em to read, not collect! I don't think I've got a mint >condition comic book in my entire collection. It's sad...I go through >my old closet at my mother's house and see all the broken toys, ratty >comic books and dog-eared baseball cards and I wonder just how much >cash I screwed myself out of when I was a kid! > >-- Nick Not at all. That's what they're for. Only wierd kids don't play with their stuff. Trust me. I'm a pro. -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Aug 18 05:12:05 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 10:12:05 +0100 Subject: OFF: Calling all comics people! In-Reply-To: <199808180815.EAA26586@junior.srt.net> Message-ID: In article <199808180815.EAA26586 at junior.srt.net>, writes >I do have that old Fantastic Four where they fight, then >team up with, the X-men. That'll be FF #28 "We Have To Fight The X-Men" A Kirby Klassic. > I think it's the first appearance by X-men, >but I'm not sure. Nah, that's X-Men #1. > Definitely not in mint condition. Is that one worth >anything? It's a 1964 edition? You'll have to give me a better idea of its condition. (By E-mail, this time) -- Jon From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Aug 18 08:29:31 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:29:31 +0100 Subject: OFF: Calling all comics people! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > >I do have that old Fantastic Four where they fight, then > >team up with, the X-men. > That'll be FF #28 "We Have To Fight The X-Men" A Kirby Klassic. > You knew that without even looking it up, didn't you? :) - Andy ObCD: Space Explosion - _Space Explosion_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 18 09:23:29 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:23:29 +0100 Subject: OFF: Calling all comics people! In-Reply-To: Nick's message of Tue, 18 Aug 1998 04:23:15 +0000 Message-ID: Nick writes: > Actually, now that you mention it, and since I see some X-men talk > going on...I do have that old Fantastic Four where they fight, then > team up with, the X-men. I think it's the first appearance by X-men, > but I'm not sure. Definitely not in mint condition. Is that one worth > anything? That's the one where Torch fights Iceman? That featured in Fantastic back when I was reading 'em. FoFP From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Tue Aug 18 09:19:28 1998 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:19:28 +0200 Subject: Spacerock in Sweden. Message-ID: Greetings all spacerock fans all over the globe! A review from the spacerock festival will be published in mid-september so stay tuned! Apart from only about one hundred fans the festival was a success musically and the "big" bands that played was: Man (Wales), Nik Turner (Wales), Spacious mind (Sweden), The Moor (Sweden), darXtar (Sweden), Dark Sun (Finland), Pseudo Sun (Sweden. Man was of course the best band with their excellent guitar/psych rock but there was two other bands that showed that they really can rock - Pseudo Sun and Dark Sun. I?m shure that the listmembers that saw it agree? I also know that the fans couldn?t buy Dark Sun?s excellent debut CD "Feed your mind" since it is sold out apart from a few copies here in Sweden. For those of you that want one please contact Peace of mind records at pom at sundsvall.mail.telia.com Price for the CD is 130 skr incl. p&p. Pseudo Sun?s CD is available for 120 skr incl. p&p. All the best Henrik -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 18 09:28:34 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:28:34 +0100 Subject: OFF The Avengers cast list In-Reply-To: Jon Browne's message of Mon, 17 Aug 1998 17:14:35 +0100 Message-ID: Jon Browne writes: > In article <199808171038.LAA21008 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes > writes > >P.S. What's the scoop on the X-Men? I caught a cartoon of it on telly > >and their lineup had changed with this new character called "Wolverine". > >In my day it usedta be Cyclops, Beast, Iceman, Angel and the woman with > >the TK powers. > > Marvel Girl. Oh yeah. > Jeezuz, Mike, that was nearly 30 years ago! The team was dormant for > years, Beast joined The Avengers etc etc. I liked the Avengers more than any of the other stuff, with Hawkeye my fave character mainly because of his disrespectful attitude to Captain America. I think at that point they were The Cap, Hawkeye, Black Widow (guest member), Ant/Giant Man (who was stuck as a giant for a while), Wasp , Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, The Vision, Hercules, and occasionally Thor and Iron Man. > The All-New X-Men i.e. Wolverine etc was launched in, what, 1975? > > Do you *really* want to know any more about this? Sure. Just curious 'n' all that. FoFP From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Tue Aug 18 06:41:03 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 10:41:03 +0000 Subject: OFF: Calling all comics people! Message-ID: > Not at all. That's what they're for. > Only wierd kids don't play with their stuff. > Trust me. I'm a pro. > -- > Jon Yeah, I agree with you and Andy on that note. Still, I see what some of this stuff goes for nowadays and wonder...But then again, if I'd have spent my childhood wondering how much my stuff would someday be worth if I kept it in mint condition, I wouldn't have had much fun, would I? -- Nick From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Tue Aug 18 06:42:42 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 10:42:42 +0000 Subject: OFF: Calling all comics people! Message-ID: > In article 467 at dalmsdoc01.shl.com>, BREVARD, Adrian R. writes > >Hey didn't someone mention recently that Frank Frazzettta had passed? > >Tragic. Adored those Conan covers, Frank was awesome. > > Reports of his death are exagerated. He had a couple of strokes 18 > months or so ago, but he's still with us AFAIK. > -- > Jon I have no intention of starting another Molly Hatchet discussion, but didn't Frazetta do their covers? At least the 70s albums? And were they commissioned or did Hatchet just use his existing work? -- Nick From mwood at MY-DEJANEWS.COM Tue Aug 18 10:43:14 1998 From: mwood at MY-DEJANEWS.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 07:43:14 -0700 Subject: Spacerock in Sweden. Message-ID: On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:19:28 Henrik Hallgren wrote: >A review from the spacerock festival will be published in mid-september = >so stay tuned! Where will it be published? >Apart from only about one hundred fans the festival was a success = >musically and the "big" bands that played was: >Man (Wales), Nik Turner (Wales), Spacious mind (Sweden), The Moor = >(Sweden), darXtar (Sweden), Dark Sun (Finland), Pseudo Sun (Sweden. I just picked up darXtar's _Daybreak_ (got all four now!). Great band. _Daybreak_ is probably their most overtly Hawkwind-influenced CD. Wild guitar solos, pounding drums, spacey vocals and concepts, aahhh... >Pseudo Sun and Dark Sun I have the Dark Sun CD, and it is excellent. This is the kind of stuff I'd prefer to hear Hawkwind churning out in the 90s. Good vocals, and modern spacey music that doesn't sound like the Ozrics. What about Pseudo Sun? I haven't heard much mention of them - can anyone post a review? And as for Spacious Mind - is _Organic Mind Solution_ a good starter? MWood NP: _Love in Space_ (CD single) - Hawkwind -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums From v.stephenson at VIRGIN.NET Tue Aug 18 11:16:25 1998 From: v.stephenson at VIRGIN.NET (vincent stephenson) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:16:25 +0100 Subject: Help for New List member? Message-ID: Hi All New to list , just stumbled across it . I am a Hawkwind fan from Gloucestershire , UK and I was wondering if any UK members could point me in direction of a good Hawkwind vinyl or CD stockist so I can rebuild my collection ??? Also anyone got a complete (ish) HW discography out there on file out there??????? cheers Vince Stephenson From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Tue Aug 18 12:26:56 1998 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:26:56 +0200 Subject: SV: Re: Spacerock in Sweden. Message-ID: Hi there! If you want to read about Pseudo sun, please point your browser at: http://hem.passagen.se/hawkwind and click on the Scandinavian spacerock icon. The review will be published in Aural Innovations and Hawkzine (and perhaps on BOC-L, who knows?). Concerning Spacious mind, I?m not the guy to give an answer but I?m sure there are fans out there that can help you! >On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:19:28 Henrik Hallgren wrote: >>A review from the spacerock festival will be published in mid-september = >>so stay tuned! > >Where will it be published? > >>Apart from only about one hundred fans the festival was a success = >>musically and the "big" bands that played was: >>Man (Wales), Nik Turner (Wales), Spacious mind (Sweden), The Moor = >>(Sweden), darXtar (Sweden), Dark Sun (Finland), Pseudo Sun (Sweden. > >I just picked up darXtar's _Daybreak_ (got all four now!). Great band. _Daybreak_ is probably their most >overtly Hawkwind-influenced CD. Wild guitar solos, pounding drums, spacey vocals and concepts, aahhh... > >>Pseudo Sun and Dark Sun > >I have the Dark Sun CD, and it is excellent. This is the kind of stuff I'd prefer to hear Hawkwind >churning out in the 90s. Good vocals, and modern spacey music that doesn't sound like the Ozrics. > >What about Pseudo Sun? I haven't heard much mention of them - can anyone post a review? > >And as for Spacious Mind - is _Organic Mind Solution_ a good starter? > >MWood > >NP: _Love in Space_ (CD single) - Hawkwind > > > >-----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- >http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums > From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Tue Aug 18 12:34:42 1998 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:34:42 +0200 Subject: SV: Help for New List member? Message-ID: Hi Vincent! If you point your browser at http://hem.passagen.se/hawkwind and click on the Peace of mind icon you will find a few items of interest. I can also send you a list to your private account if you like? All the best Henrik >Hi All >New to list , just stumbled across it . >I am a Hawkwind fan from Gloucestershire , UK and I was wondering >if any UK members could point me in direction of a good Hawkwind >vinyl or CD stockist so I can rebuild my collection ??? >Also anyone got a complete (ish) HW discography out there on file >out there??????? >cheers >Vince Stephenson > From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 18 12:47:27 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 17:47:27 +0100 Subject: Help for New List member? In-Reply-To: vincent stephenson's message of Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:16:25 +0100 Message-ID: Hi Vincent! vincent stephenson writes: > Hi All > New to list , just stumbled across it . > I am a Hawkwind fan from Gloucestershire , UK and I was wondering > if any UK members could point me in direction of a good Hawkwind > vinyl or CD stockist so I can rebuild my collection ??? > Also anyone got a complete (ish) HW discography out there on file > out there??????? > cheers > Vince Stephenson Welcome! Maybe this will get the conversation back to Hawkwind again 8-) if so - my thanks! Most of the big name shops HMV, Virgin, Tower etc. should have a fairly uptodate supply of the official CD releases. However it's well worth while trying to get hold of the remastered versions of the official albums - a bit more expensive and you may have to order them but definitely worth buying - if you didn't get those CDs when they first came out. Mail Order is your best bet if you haven't got access to the big stores - companies like GEMA are usually reliable and offer very reasonable prices. Vinyl is a lot more difficult. Mail Order or Record Fairs are about the only access to Hawkwind vinyl - they appear to be an eminently Kollectable band so very few folk are willing to part with they albums they have meticulously acquired over the years! I recomment the mag "Record Collector", issued monthly, it gives you access to all the main Mail Order companies and tells you when and where there will be a Record Fair - there's bound to be one in your area somewhere! Enjoy jill PS: There's a discography on Sonique's web page - can't remember the address off hand. Anyone? ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Tue Aug 18 12:55:16 1998 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 17:55:16 +0100 Subject: Help for New List member? In-Reply-To: <199808181647.RAA06031@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 17:47 18/08/98 +0100, J Strobridge wrote: >Vinyl is a lot more difficult. Mail Order or Record Fairs are about >the only access to Hawkwind vinyl - they appear to be an eminently >Kollectable band so very few folk are willing to part with they albums >they have meticulously acquired over the years! That reminds me - if any of the Edinburgh people are interested, Record Shak has a copy of Roadhawks, with the poster, for 10 pounds. They claim that it's in mint condition. I'm finding it hard to make trips out of the house at the moment, otherwise I'd offer to pick it up for out-of-town folk. Dave. Harlequin Ltd., Lismore House, 127 George St, Edinburgh, EH2 4JN, UK. Tel: +44 131 240 6106. From mwood at MY-DEJANEWS.COM Tue Aug 18 13:47:51 1998 From: mwood at MY-DEJANEWS.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 10:47:51 -0700 Subject: HW: Davey's _Captured Rotation_ US$4 Message-ID: (Whoa, two posts in one day!) Just noticed that Wayside Music (Maryland, USA) is selling Alan Davey's _Captured Rotation_ for US$4. The web site is at http://members.aol.com/Cuneiform2/cuneiform.html Click on "Catalogs", then "New in Stock". BBC1 is there, too, for US$9. I'm not affiliated with Wayside, blah, blah. But I have ordered from them in the past with no problems. MWood NP: _Scheherazade_ - Renaissance -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums From adawson at CLARA.NET Tue Aug 18 15:00:23 1998 From: adawson at CLARA.NET (Andrew Dawson) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 20:00:23 +0100 Subject: Help for New List member? In-Reply-To: <006101bdcabb$2b5dbae0$1f40a8c2@s051066621> Message-ID: At 16:16 18/08/98 +0100, you wrote: >Hi All >New to list , just stumbled across it . >I am a Hawkwind fan from Gloucestershire , UK and I was wondering >if any UK members could point me in direction of a good Hawkwind >vinyl or CD stockist so I can rebuild my collection ??? >Also anyone got a complete (ish) HW discography out there on file >out there??????? >cheers >Vince Stephenson > > Hi Vincent, Welcome to the list. Compact Disc Srvices are an excellent U.K mail order company for all things Hawkwind and related Give them a call on 01382 776595 and ask for their latest Hawkwind catalogue. Maybe also take a look at my Wordwide Discography website. You might be surprised just how much rebuilding you will have to do . Address in sig. Andy Andrew Dawson adawson at clara.net Into Hawkwind ? Then check out the Worldwide discography. http://home.clara.net/adawson From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Tue Aug 18 13:31:36 1998 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 19:31:36 +0200 Subject: Spacerock in Sweden. Message-ID: Henrik Hallgren schrieb: > > Greetings all spacerock fans all over the globe! > > A review from the spacerock festival will be published in mid-september so > stay tuned! > Apart from only about one hundred fans the festival was a success musically > and the "big" bands that played was: > Man (Wales), Nik Turner (Wales), Spacious mind (Sweden), The Moor (Sweden), > darXtar (Sweden), Dark Sun (Finland), Pseudo Sun (Sweden. > > Man was of course the best band with their excellent guitar/psych rock but > there was two other bands that showed that they really can rock - > Pseudo Sun and Dark Sun. I?m shure that the listmembers that saw it agree? That?s exactly my opinion too. MAN were great as usual, especially on friday when they did "Spunk Rock" with NT blowing that infamous riff on his sax. They sold their new album there, a live double CD (141 min, 2 new tracks) recorded at the Star Club in Oberhausen/Germany on March 27th this year, a splendid gig and the best one I have ever seen, even better than their gigs in Jonkoping. It features their old keyboard man Phil Ryan and it?s their spaciest release yet. PSEUDO SUN was the second best act in my eyes, though they played only for 35 min. They did some seriously hard rocking, sometimes even black sabbath-like riffing, space rock. Juba?s bass playing is reminiscent of Alan Davey?s (a Rickenbacker bass of course). His CD (highly recommended to HW fans!) is available from: Juba Nurmenniemi, Biskop Jons v. 53, S-17676 Jarfalla, Sweden;or from Henrik).He is just busy recording his second CD. In the meantime he released a tape of demos and outtakes on Mick Magic?s Music & Elsewhere label (a copy of which he kindly gave to me on the festival). Third best band was DARK SUN from Finland, simply good space rock skilfully played. They even did Hassan I Sahba and Psychedelic Warlords with NT ! The other bands didn?t impress me much I have to admit. The SPACIOS MIND had their moments but to my taste this jamming stuff without any song structures starts getting boring after a while. DARXTAR were not bad either but I think they have lost some of their magic when Juba left them. > I also know that the fans couldn?t buy Dark Sun?s excellent debut CD "Feed > your mind" since it is sold out apart from a few copies here in Sweden. For > those of you that want one please contact Peace of mind records at > pom at sundsvall.mail.telia.com > Price for the CD is 130 skr incl. p&p. > Pseudo Sun?s CD is available for 120 skr incl. p&p. > > All the best > > Henrik All in all it was a really pleasant weekend with lots of good (sometimes even excellent) music and was really worth the long journey. It?s only such a shame that only so few people turned up. Seems like about 50 % of the people there were playing in a band ! Martin Ace of MAN summed up the festival: "It?s very nice to be here amongst so few beautiful people. But don?t forget: you are the ones that are here and everone else is nowhere, man ! ... We make our own life and this is it, standing underneath a blazing spotlight playing music that nobody wants to listen to...(some people shouting "We do ! We do !")... except you mad bastards !" Andreas From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Tue Aug 18 15:11:40 1998 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:11:40 -0400 Subject: HW: What's going on??? Message-ID: Jill had said... >Welcome! Maybe this will get the conversation back to Hawkwind again 8-) >if so - my thanks! Yeah, really!!! Various listmembers have been arriving home to post their observations and experiences at the amazing Strange Daze '98 festival (attendance over 1,000 I hear), and now we're hearing some reports from the Jonkoping festival. And all this on the 10th anniversary of Bob Calvert's passing. And Hawkwind performs *without* Dave Brock for like the second time in history! And noone gives a rat's ass?!?! You're all talking about frickin' comics?? What the hell is going on?? How bit this? Tell me you don't find *this* interesting! Keith H. (FAA) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^ >From Aural Innovations, Issue #3 (July, 1998) Interview with Nik Turner (by Scott Heller and Christian Mumford) NT: There's an album that's just come out, recorded in Chicago in 1974 of Hawkwind material, (the 1999 Party). SH: It is very good in the sense that it represents the band well from that time period. NT: Well, there's talk of reforming that band...to actually promote that record. SH: Hmmmm.... NT: So that's another thing we might do. CM: You are not talking the entire band though? NT: Well, that's the idea, yeah. CM: Wow. NT: That band, you know. I mean the thing is about it is that Lemmy will be given the option, just as Dave Brock would, whether they take it up is up to them. more discussion continues..... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ >From U.S. Rocker (August, 1998 Issue) Interview with Dave Brock (by Sean Carney) SC: Hawkwind has always used cutting edge electronics. What kind of equipment have you been using lately? DB: .....We still use the old EMS audio generators, too. Ron's had this incredible machine built which is eight audio generators hooked together that makes incredible noises which are in the story 'The Death Generator.' We're doing a big show next year with Michael Moorcock, the science fiction writer, who is coming back with us to do a few shows, and Lemmy from Motorhead as well as Simon House, Harvey Bainbridge, and Nik Turner. SC: What is the Death Generator? DB: It's a novel Michael did with Mike Butterworth back in the 70s -- they wrote a couple of books called 'Time of the Hawklords' and 'Queen of Deleria' which are fantasy, sci-fi stories. There was a comic based on them that came out in the late 80s. I was very impressed by it so I thought, why not do a show about it? It's a bit of a parody of the band -- with us going off into space to fight the Death Generator. HaHaHa! It should be good fun because we've got a great lightshow presentation to go with it. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >From the Strider News, Issue 6 (August, 1998) Interview with Dave Brock (by Adam Strider) AS: What's coming up over the next six months? I know I saw a lot of stuff on the Hawkwind web site. DB: We're doing this SpaceRock album, you know, with Jim Lascko. (He is referring to the Strange Daze '97 album) I think it might be released on Griffin Records, which I believe has been gotten back together by Rob Godwin. And we've put out another album in the meantime -- we've been quite busy, actually. This new studio album will probably be released in America when we do this tour in October, maybe also on Griffin. We've also been asked to record 'Interstellar Overdrive,' the old Pink Floyd song, to be released with a Pink Floyd book. So we've got to get that together! We're also doing the 'Ledge of Darkness' show for next year. That's going to be a stage show and probably a cartoon and all sorts of things. We've got quite a few people involved in that at the moment. It's from the 'Time of the Hawklords' book. AS: From the third part? DB: Well, the 'Death Generator', right, but we've got to rewrite it to make it a bit more interesting and exciting. AS: Will Michael Moorcock be involved in that? DB: I should hope so, yeah, probably doing some spoken pieces. We'll probably be getting an album out of all of this. AS: Wow, that would be really exciting. DB: And there is even the possibility of getting a video game out! There's really no limitation on this because Griffin released their 25-year box set and they had the actual 'Ledge of Darkness' comic in with the package. Basically, a friend of ours who does all the dance and raves stuff and also works for MTV doing all of thier graphics and cartoons and computer technology seems to be quite keen on actually getting a cartoon together on this. So there's actually a chance of getting this released for next year. AS: Is there any chance that you would bring back former members of Hawkwind to do stuff with? DB: Yeah. I've spoken to Lemmy about this, and he's quite interested in getting it together. And Simon House I've spoken to, and Harvey Bainbridge, Tim Blake, Huw Lloyd-Langton, and Nik Turner. All of these characters would love to be involved as well. We could make it an active sort of story line with different actors coming along to play in the band. From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Tue Aug 18 16:25:39 1998 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:25:39 -0700 Subject: HW: SD 98 Message-ID: Hi all, I'm back in grey & overcast California (hey, this is San Francisco!) after a GREAT weekend at Strange Daze 98. It was great to meet the various listmembers who were there (Keith H was in the tent next to mine!), along with many other very nice folks. I don't have time for a full review at the moment, but at the very least, on Mon, 17 Aug 1998 00:03:39 -0500, Dan Witt made some statements that invite further detail (and I'll throw in some further commentary, too): >Biggest news: Dave Brock and Ron were not allowed in the country(good >ol' USA for ya), I'm sure more news on that will get posted. Ron was turned back (apparently as "undesirable") when trying to enter Canada from the UK ... I heard some rumors over the cause, which seems to be related to previous drug conviction(s) - does anyone know the true story? However, if what I heard about Dave is true, I feel reason to be a bit pissed off. As my information comes from conversations with Jim Lascko and Jerry Richards, I feel like the information is valid enough to post (but if I'm incorrect, please flame me!). The reason that Dave was not admitted into the USA (even though he had no trouble getting into Canada) is because he didn't have a visa. All he needed to do was fill out a form and send it to a US consulate to get permission to enter the country. Just a rubber stamp, that's all. If this is true, it bugs me that Dave didn't have his sh*&%t together enough to get one stinkin' rubber stamp. If someone can confirm this, I'd like to hear, but no more negativity from me on this, I promise! >Jerry, Richard, and Captain Rizz(I think) played with a couple stand-ins. >They played about six songs with some extended jams. From memory they >played Time WE Left, Warrior at the Edge of Time, Space is Deep, Golden >Void, Brainstorm. It was about 65 minutes. I'm sure they did their best, >but it wasn't quite for me. I would definitely vote that it was not a "real" Hawkwind gig (I prefer the moniker RizzWind, personally), but I still enjoyed it immensely. The intro was very cool and reminiscent of Calvert's "Over the Top" rap, with Capt. Rizz explaining how Dave & Ron weren't going to be there, but we were still gonna rock. Overall, the substitute Scotts from Sun Machine did an adequate-to-good job of filling in - nothing fancy, but still commendable for only having one rehearsal, in Jerry's tent, earlier that afternoon! Other than the lame & disappointing version of "Space is Deep" (one of my fave HW songs, *sigh*), I thought that the set was very good, both the old songs ("Time We Left"!), the new ones ("Wheels"), and the semi-informal jamming that we got to hear more of than in most Hawkwind concerts. Someone mentioned that Richard deserves mucho credit for holding the whole thing together, and I must second that opinion. He is an undeniably great drummer, and even more importantly, really understands and lives what Hawkwind is all about. And Jerry did just fine, singing both Dave's and Ron's parts (and hey, sometimes my mouth has trouble finding the microphone, too!). >Arc Met, who I was looking forward to seeing, was unable to play Friday >as scheduled because of a theft that had taken place the day before. >They were however rescheduled for Sunday at noon, but I had to leave >early Sunday for the 12 hour drive home. Arc Met and Born to G0 were both quite good on sunday; I'm glad I stuck around for them (well, OK, I left mid-way through BtG 'cause I was feeling kinda burnt). >F/i put on a great show, I'd have to say it was my favorite of the >weekend. Something really seemed to irritate Brian(the guitarist) after >a few songs, he just about threw his guitar down and was pointing at the >speakers, anybody know what happened? It was hard to tell, 'cause at first it just sounded like Grant's synths were going crazy (I've had this happen to me - where one knob is in a weird position, making the analog synth sound like Jimi's guitar feeding back), but once the band stopped playing (kinda ruining the version of "From Poppy With Love" :^( ... ), it was obvious that a CD or tape of some other band was being played over the PA at the same time F/i were trying to play! I'd be pissed, too! It took the soundman what seemed like 3 or 4 minutes after the band to figure out what was going on (hence the complaints many folks have made about the sound, which, while not great, was not that bad IMO, considering...). But after that SNAFU, the band made a great recovery and finished up with one of the best sets at the festival. They had a smaller (4 vs. 6) lineup than last year, with the previous bassist and keyboardist MIA, and cellist Jeff Chase playing some wild rockin' bass. >Pressure Head put on a good show too, vocals were a little too buriedthough. That always seems to happen with their vocals ... I suspect that Tommy just likes them mixed that way. Theirs was also one of the best sets, and they played some really amazingly obscure covers. >Hope it happens again next year, it was well worth the long drive. Or, in my case, the long flight :^) -Doug ceres at sirius.com From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Tue Aug 18 17:54:46 1998 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:54:46 -0700 Subject: HW: SD 98 Message-ID: >I would definitely vote that it was not a "real" Hawkwind gig (I prefer the moniker RizzWind, personally)... I like Chadwind, although not to slight the excellent contributions from the others, maybe Strangewind? Or, to get off the '____wind' idea, we could go with what Richard said: "We are The Ones Who Are Left." Kevin Sommers Primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu http://www.psn.net/~novadrive/ From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Tue Aug 18 17:55:39 1998 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 17:55:39 EDT Subject: HW: SD 98 Message-ID: In a message dated 98-08-17 01:09:50 EDT, you write: << F/i put on a great show, I'd have to say it was my favorite of the weekend. Something really seemed to irritate Brian(the guitarist) after a few songs, he just about threw his guitar down and was pointing at the speakers, anybody know what happened? >> apparently music from the sound board accidently started playing on the stage in the middle of the set....the guy doing sound seemed real jerky... so i wasnt surprised by such a snafu bob From mlooney at IONET.NET Tue Aug 18 12:49:06 1998 From: mlooney at IONET.NET (J. Michael Looney) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:49:06 -0500 Subject: BOC Review of Aug 13th show. Message-ID: BREVARD, Adrian R. wrote: > Two questions Mike, > > What was the band order, Naz/AW/BOC of Naz/BOC/AW? > > Did AW play If You See Kay? I love that song. Order was Naz/AW/BOC. Not sure about If You See Kay. I spent most of AW trying to get a brotworst and some drinks for Vickie. From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Tue Aug 18 20:32:54 1998 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 20:32:54 EDT Subject: HW: SD 98 Message-ID: -Doug ceres at sirius.com writes: << .... >Biggest news: Dave Brock and Ron were not allowed in the country(good< >ol' USA for ya), I'm sure more news on that will get posted.< >>Ron was turned back (apparently as "undesirable") when trying to enter >> Canada from the UK ... I heard some rumors over the cause, which seems to >> be related to previous drug conviction(s) - does anyone know the true >> story? However, if what I heard about Dave is true, I feel reason to be a >> bit pissed off. As my information comes from conversations with Jim Lascko >> and Jerry Richards, I feel like the information is valid enough to post >> (but if I'm incorrect, please flame me!). The reason that Dave was not >> admitted into the USA (even though he had no trouble getting into Canada) >> is because he didn't have a visa. All he needed to do was fill out a form >> and send it to a US consulate to get permission to enter the country. Just >> a rubber stamp, that's all. If this is true, it bugs me that Dave didn't >> have his sh*&%t together enough to get one stinkin' rubber stamp. If >> someone can confirm this, I'd like to hear, but no more negativity from me >> on this, I promise! what i heard from Jim was that Dave had applied for an exemption to come into the country due to prior records on file....that the exemption was mailed out and it never arrived in time for Dave to make his flight....he tried to straighten this out when he got to Canada ... but to no avail... >Jerry, Richard, and Captain Rizz(I think) played with a couple stand-ins. >They played about six songs with some extended jams. From memory they >played Time WE Left, Warrior at the Edge of Time, Space is Deep, Golden >Void, Brainstorm. It was about 65 minutes. I'm sure they did their best, >but it wasn't quite for me. >> I would definitely vote that it was not a "real" Hawkwind gig (I prefer the >> moniker RizzWind, personally), but I still enjoyed it immensely. The intro >> was very cool and reminiscent of Calvert's "Over the Top" rap, with Capt. >> Rizz explaining how Dave & Ron weren't going to be there, but we were still >> gonna rock. Overall, the substitute Scotts from Sun Machine did an >> adequate-to-good job of filling in - nothing fancy, but still commendable >> for only having one rehearsal, in Jerry's tent, earlier that afternoon! >> Other than the lame & disappointing version of "Space is Deep" (one of my >> fave HW songs, *sigh*), I thought that the set was very good, both the old >> songs ("Time We Left"!), the new ones ("Wheels"), and the semi-informal >> jamming that we got to hear more of than in most Hawkwind concerts. >> Someone mentioned that Richard deserves mucho credit for holding the whole >> thing together, and I must second that opinion. He is an undeniably great >> drummer, and even more importantly, really understands and lives what >> Hawkwind is all about. And Jerry did just fine, singing both Dave's and >> Ron's parts (and hey, sometimes my mouth has trouble finding the >> microphone, too!). i vote that the show should be declared a "real" HW gig....what can i say...the 3 hawks did a wonderful job in the face of great difficulties.....i also thoroughly enjoyed their performance....but i'll wait til play my video before i pick it apart... >Arc Met, who I was looking forward to seeing, was unable to play Friday >as scheduled because of a theft that had taken place the day before. >They were however rescheduled for Sunday at noon, but I had to leave >early Sunday for the 12 hour drive home. >>Arc Met and Born to G0 were both quite good on sunday; I'm glad I stuck >> around for them (well, OK, I left mid-way through BtG 'cause I was feeling >> kinda burnt). yep!!! bob From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Aug 19 04:50:41 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 09:50:41 +0100 Subject: HW: What's going on??? In-Reply-To: <199808181911.PAA18253@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: In article <199808181911.PAA18253 at mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu>, Keith Henderson writes >DB: Yeah. I've spoken to Lemmy about this, and he's quite interested in >getting it together. etc. Yeah, that's interesting alright! -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Aug 19 08:20:22 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 13:20:22 +0100 Subject: OFF: Calling all comics people! In-Reply-To: <000001bdcaa3$d96692a0$483f63c3@default> Message-ID: In article <000001bdcaa3$d96692a0$483f63c3 at default>, Andy Gilham writes >You knew that without even looking it up, didn't you? :) > >- Andy I certainly did. I was slightly embarressed I couldn't quote todays mint price on it without checking. I must be getting old. A mint copy would be around $200 US. -- Jon From hogard at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Aug 19 09:56:27 1998 From: hogard at HOTMAIL.COM (~ Hogard) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 06:56:27 PDT Subject: HW: What's going on??? Message-ID: Keith Henderson posted: >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>From the Strider News, Issue 6 (August, 1998) Interview with Dave Brock (by >Adam Strider) [...] >DB: And there is even the possibility of getting a video game out! There's >really no limitation on this because Griffin released their 25-year box set >and they had the actual 'Ledge of Darkness' comic in with the package. >Basically, a friend of ours who does all the dance and raves stuff and also >works for MTV doing all of thier graphics and cartoons and computer >technology seems to be quite keen on actually getting a cartoon together on >this. So there's actually a chance of >getting this released for next year. Next, of course, come the ACTION FIGURES. Hogard he who wields the mighty bass guitar called Skullwarper ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From tclark at PETRONET.NET Wed Aug 19 10:11:33 1998 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 09:11:33 -0500 Subject: HW: What's going on??? Message-ID: ~ Hogard wrote: > Keith Henderson posted: > > >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >From the Strider News, Issue 6 (August, 1998) Interview with Dave Brock > (by > >Adam Strider) > > [...] > > >DB: And there is even the possibility of getting a video game out! > There's > >really no limitation on this because Griffin released their 25-year box > set > >and they had the actual 'Ledge of Darkness' comic in with the package. > >Basically, a friend of ours who does all the dance and raves stuff and > also > >works for MTV doing all of thier graphics and cartoons and computer > >technology seems to be quite keen on actually getting a cartoon > together on > >this. So there's actually a chance of > >getting this released for next year. > > >>Next, of course, come the ACTION FIGURES. And don't forget LUNCH BOXES! > > > Hogard > he who wields the mighty bass guitar called Skullwarper > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU Wed Aug 19 08:47:10 1998 From: sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 20:47:10 +0800 Subject: Help for New List member? Message-ID: Welcome to the list Vincent! On 18 Aug 98, at 17:47, J Strobridge wrote about Re: Help for New List member?: > PS: There's a discography on Sonique's web page - can't remember the > address off hand. Anyone? Mike's discography, Johann's "Top 100" and various other goodies are all at http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/Hawkwind/files and Mike/Jill's Codex is up at http://www.pcmicro.com.au/OzHawks/Codex Soniqu? obIwonder: We had a nice light(ning) show here in Taiwan at about the same time as SD'98 and Jon Koping .... someone been firing up the death generator? -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique / \( o`-, ----- may sonique at mail.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they UIN #14292706 on ICQ /////// : ; --- Fly! From abrevard at SHL.COM Wed Aug 19 11:23:19 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 10:23:19 -0500 Subject: OFF The Avengers cast list - More about X People Message-ID: >P.S. What's the scoop on the X-Men? I caught a cartoon of it on telly > >and their lineup had changed with this new character called "Wolverine". > >In my day it usedta be Cyclops, Beast, Iceman, Angel and the woman with > >the TK powers. > > Marvel Girl. >Oh yeah. > Jeezuz, Mike, that was nearly 30 years ago! The team was dormant for > years, Beast joined The Avengers etc etc. Not to mention Angel and Iceman forming the Champions. Group also included Ghost Rider, Hercules, Black Widow and some other Russian babe who's name I forget. Gee the black Widow must be the Kevin Bacon of the marvel universe. Is there any group she's hasn't joined? Is there any hero she hasn't loved? >I liked the Avengers more than any of the other stuff, with Hawkeye my fave character mainly because of his disrespectful attitude to Captain America. I think at that point they were The Cap, Hawkeye, Black Widow (guest member), Ant/Giant Man (who was stuck as a giant for a while), Wasp , Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, The Vision, Hercules, and occasionally Thor and Iron Man. Occassionally Iron Man and Thor? Dude Thor and IM were charter members of the group, along with Giant Man, Wasp and the Hulk. Cap is probably the longest continuing memeber of the band but Thor and Iron Man were there first. Avengers have changed more than the X-men. > The All-New X-Men i.e. Wolverine etc was launched in, what, 1975? > > Do you *really* want to know any more about this? >Sure. Just curious 'n' all that. OK the new X-men were created when this living entity that was an island caprtured the original team., Prof. X knew of their (new X-people) existence and brought them togetherr to rescue the original team. At the end of the day there was suddenly a boatload of X people. All of the original members with the exception of Cyclops decided to leave. Over the years even this team has changed, not to mention the creation of variant groups, X-Caliber, X-Force etc. Interesting that the new team has greater tenure than the original. >I have no intention of starting another Molly Hatchet discussion, but didn't Frazetta do their covers? At least the 70s albums? And were they commissioned or did Hatchet just use his existing work? Sigh there was a time in my youth that I could provide you a definitive answer for this. So fuzzy those days but the answer I beleive is one of the following. Take your pick - a. They are FF artwork used by MH b. They were commissioned by MH from FF c. Neither, they were done by this guy (another forgotten name) who patterned himself after FF. Sure its one of those. Ghost in the Ruins OB Wuzup - So what are the plans for BOC's follow-up to HF? -- Nick From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Aug 19 11:28:57 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 11:28:57 -0400 Subject: OFF The Avengers cast list - More about X People Message-ID: >Occassionally Iron Man and Thor? Dude Thor and IM were charter members >of the group, along with Giant Man, Wasp and the Hulk. Cap is probably >the longest continuing memeber of the band but Thor and Iron Man were >there first. Avengers have changed more than the X-men. Ever see the "What if everyone who had ever been an avenger remained an Avenger"?? short one-pager, showed, someone calling "Avengers assemble!" to handle a candy store robbery, and the proceding trampling of the entire block as all the avengers (all of them) gather to handle the case... More people in a group than anyone this side of the preboot legion... And he took the stars in his hands and as he scattered them he'd shout: "I'm the Joker of the Universe! I'm What it's all about!" - "The Great Sun Jester" by Blue ?yster Cult (Eric Bloom, Michael Moorcock) -AAA From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 19 13:26:49 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 13:26:49 EDT Subject: OFF The Avengers cast list - More about X People In-Reply-To: <199808191528.LAA00065@in.flite.net> Message-ID: > >Occassionally Iron Man and Thor? Dude Thor and IM were charter members > >of the group, along with Giant Man, Wasp and the Hulk. Cap is probably > >the longest continuing memeber of the band but Thor and Iron Man were > >there first. Avengers have changed more than the X-men. > Somebody's forgetting Sub mariner who was actually in the Avengers for the first mag. I know, 'cause I bought it new way back then and still have it! theo From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 19 13:46:07 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 18:46:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Help for New List member? - Do Not Panic In-Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?='s message of Wed, 19 Aug 1998 20:47:10 +0800 Message-ID: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?= writes: > Welcome to the list Vincent! > > On 18 Aug 98, at 17:47, J Strobridge wrote about Re: Help for New List > member?: > > > PS: There's a discography on Sonique's web page - can't remember the > > address off hand. Anyone? > > Mike's discography, Johann's "Top 100" and various other goodies are all at > http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/Hawkwind/files and Mike/Jill's Codex is up > at http://www.pcmicro.com.au/OzHawks/Codex I think there is also a DO NOT PANIC reduced discography somewhere on line - slimmed down to include just the basic official releases for those folk who just hate watching their wallet have a heart attack every time they even glance at the full discography listing! > > Soniqu? > > obIwonder: We had a nice light(ning) show here in Taiwan at about the same > time as SD'98 and Jon Koping .... someone been firing up the death generator? This might not as unreasonable as it may sound! Apparently during one of the shuttle missions as the astronauts were staring out at the lightning storms on earth there did seem to be a pattern where a sudden flash in the clouds in one quadrant of the earth would set off a reaction in clouds quite another quadrant - often half way around the world. Impossible to prove that this was anything more than coincidence but I have to admit that the film they showed of the effect was quite convincing! Maybe Dave should test it out... jill StrangeThought> that Ken Kesey can visit this country from the States to regale us with tales about his Psychedelic Bus adventures but Dave Brock can't visit the States from here just to play music in a rock band. Sheesh. ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 19 13:51:37 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 18:51:37 +0100 Subject: HW: What's going on??? In-Reply-To: Keith Henderson's message of Tue, 18 Aug 1998 15:11:40 -0400 Message-ID: Keith Henderson writes: > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >From the Strider News, Issue 6 (August, 1998) Interview with Dave Brock (by > Adam Strider) > > DB: Yeah. I've spoken to Lemmy about this, and he's quite interested in > getting it together. And Simon House I've spoken to, and Harvey Bainbridge, > Tim Blake, Huw Lloyd-Langton, and Nik Turner. All of these characters would > love to be involved as well. We could make it an active sort of story line > with different actors coming along to play in the band. > WOW! Comes the Millenium... jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Wed Aug 19 13:47:34 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 13:47:34 -0400 Subject: HW: Help for New List member? - Do Not Panic Message-ID: J Strobridge wrote: > StrangeThought> that Ken Kesey can visit this country from the States > to regale us with tales about his Psychedelic Bus adventures but Dave > Brock can't visit the States from here just to play music in a rock > band. Sheesh. Hehehe... I agree with you, Jill. Our border laws suck big-time! But this last was more of a case of: "Dave Brock can't remember to sign the little paper and send it in in time to make the gig!" (But I _do_ think he shouldn't HAVE to!) =) RJ From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Wed Aug 19 13:56:07 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 13:56:07 -0400 Subject: HW: SD 98 Message-ID: Bob Lennon wrote: > i vote that the show should be declared a "real" HW gig....what can i > say...the 3 hawks did a wonderful job in the face of great difficulties.... and I vote that the question as to whether this was a real HW gig should be deemed silly, and dismissed. =) it needs no analysis. dave said it was HW, richard said it was HW. HW got paid. It was HW. again. =) RJ From lansford at VNET.NET Wed Aug 19 14:00:30 1998 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 18:00:30 GMT Subject: BOC: Live for Me Message-ID: WRAL in Raleigh is already playing it. Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net http://users.vnet.net/lansford/ From lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU Wed Aug 19 15:18:22 1998 From: lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU (dave cohen) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 15:18:22 -0400 Subject: MM & HW (fwd) Message-ID: Forwarded message: > From multiverse at hotmail.com Wed Aug 19 00:44:53 1998 > From: "Berry Sizemore" > > Could you pass this along: > > In about a weeks time, everyone who loves MM's work will find > http://www.multiverse.org/ on line! > > Tanelorn is at the center of the Multiverse still, and there a number of > new items. But it is still a work in progress. And, I'm sad to admit, > it will be lacking in the way of MM's musical endeavours. But that > should be resolved within the next several months. > > Thanks, > > Jhary-a-Conel From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Wed Aug 19 18:28:04 1998 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 18:28:04 EDT Subject: HW: What's going on??? Message-ID: In a message dated 98-08-19 13:54:12 EDT, you write: << > >From the Strider News, Issue 6 (August, 1998) Interview with Dave Brock (by > Adam Strider) > > DB: Yeah. I've spoken to Lemmy about this, and he's quite interested in > getting it together. And Simon House I've spoken to, and Harvey Bainbridge, > Tim Blake, Huw Lloyd-Langton, and Nik Turner. All of these characters would > love to be involved as well. We could make it an active sort of story line > with different actors coming along to play in the band. > >> "characters????" LOL bob http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Wed Aug 19 18:29:53 1998 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 18:29:53 EDT Subject: HW: SD 98 Message-ID: In a message dated 98-08-19 14:01:33 EDT, you write: << Bob Lennon wrote: > i vote that the show should be declared a "real" HW gig....what can i > say...the 3 hawks did a wonderful job in the face of great difficulties.... and I vote that the question as to whether this was a real HW gig should be deemed silly, and dismissed. =) it needs no analysis. dave said it was HW, richard said it was HW. HW got paid. It was HW. again. =) RJ >> i vote that voting on this question being deemed silly should be deemed silly bob http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From abrevard at SHL.COM Thu Aug 20 10:56:54 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 07:56:54 -0700 Subject: OFF: Comics and Age Message-ID: >Somebody's forgetting Sub mariner who was actually in the Avengers >for the first mag. I know, 'cause I bought it new way back then and >still have it! Ouch guy! I know I'm getting old but I think you are wrong here. Yes the Sub Mariner may appear in the first few issues of the Avengers however I think you will find that he is a villian not a memeber. Their (Avengers) first major rumble was toe to toe with the Sub Mariner and the Hulk. Namor somehow convinced the Hulk to join him in his fight against mankind. Hulk leaves Avengers to do this. Still the proof is in the pudding why don't ya mail me this particular issue for me to see for myself hehehehehehehehe.... Ghost in the Ruins From abrevard at SHL.COM Thu Aug 20 11:00:36 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 08:00:36 -0700 Subject: OFF: Comics ooops... Message-ID: >Ever see the "What if everyone who had ever been an avenger remained an Avenger"?? Forgot this one... No. But I had the first three recent issues when the heros returned to Earth. In that one the Avengers call on everyone who had been an Avenger at one point. Not all of them came back, (Spider Man, Reed Richards, Ben Grimm and the Hulk). Some were dead and others no, where to be found. Still the number of heros that did heed the call "Avengers Assemble" was massive. It was actually pretty kewl. Ghost in the Ruins From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed Aug 19 11:04:57 1998 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1998 23:04:57 +0800 Subject: HW: Unusual version of Quark???? Message-ID: >Whilst shopping yesterday (Selectadisc, London) I came across a version >of Quark which I hadn't seen before. Its on the Griffin label (catalogue >number GCDHA-162-2), has the standard track list but has a completely >different cover to the power station interior we all know. I was hoping >it might be a new master but unlike the Griffin ASAM, I cannot tell any >immediate difference. > The version that was released with the book has a different cover, therefore I assume this is it. I don't know if it's a remaster, though? William From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Aug 20 06:08:02 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 11:08:02 +0100 Subject: OFF The Avengers cast list - More about X People In-Reply-To: <10C41BB36D3@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: In article <10C41BB36D3 at library.syr.edu>, Ted Jackson jr. s2h2 writes >Somebody's forgetting Sub mariner who was actually in the Avengers >for the first mag. I know, 'cause I bought it new way back then and >still have it! > >theo No, he wasn't. Namor guest starred in #3 when he teamed up with the Hulk (who quit the team in #2) to battle The Avengers. If you still have your Avengers #1 in good shape, its worth $2,000. -- Jon From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Aug 20 11:35:34 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 11:35:34 EDT Subject: OFF The Avengers cast list - More about X People In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: Jon Browne > > If you still have your Avengers #1 in good shape, its worth $2,000. > -- > Jon Jon, I've got a ton of comics from that vintage, but I bought them as a kid and never figured they'd be worth more than the 12 CENTS I paid for 'em! So I've still got them, but they were all read and handled [albeit carefully] but I never put them in little bags or anything. Any idea if they're still worth anything? I've got the first several X Men, First several Avengers, about 20 Nick Fury, lots of early Spider Man etc, but obviously not preserved as collectibles. Any value there, or strictly dreaming? theo From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Aug 20 13:01:55 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 18:01:55 +0100 Subject: OFF The Avengers cast list - More about X People In-Reply-To: <12267D41F09@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: In article <12267D41F09 at library.syr.edu>, Ted Jackson jr. s2h2 writes >Jon, >I've got a ton of comics from that vintage, but I bought them as a >kid and never figured they'd be worth more than the 12 CENTS I paid >for 'em! So I've still got them, but they were all read and handled >[albeit carefully] but I never put them in little bags or anything. >Any idea if they're still worth anything? I've got the first several >X Men, First several Avengers, about 20 Nick Fury, lots of early >Spider Man etc, but obviously not preserved as collectibles. Any >value there, or strictly dreaming? > >theo Short answer is yes, even in average condition, the lot could easily be worth several hundred and if you're really lucky, into four figures. I'm too far away to realistically make you any offers but if we take this to e-mail, I'd be glad to help you find somewhere where you could at least get an honest evaluation. In the meantime, perhaps, you'd like to subscribe to rec.arts.comics.marketplace (headers only!) You're looking for "Silver Age" Marvel. You'll get a nice surprise. Others: I won't be posting anymore on this subjectas it's too "off", but I'm happy to talk privately. best -- Jon From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Aug 20 13:18:36 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 18:18:36 +0100 Subject: OFF The Avengers cast list - More about X People In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > No, he wasn't. Namor guest starred in #3 when he teamed up with the Hulk > (who quit the team in #2) to battle The Avengers. > > If you still have your Avengers #1 in good shape, its worth $2,000. > -- > Jon > Hmm.. I can still name the villains in each of the first ten issues of Fantastic Four, but I'm not sure this is really the place to do it :) - Andy ObCD: Emmylou Harris - _Spyboy_ mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Thu Aug 20 20:26:22 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 20:26:22 -0400 Subject: HW: Conspiracy vs. Dave Message-ID: Hello people, I just received an e-mail from Dave Brock, which in no uncertain terms advised me that I was wrong in the info I posted about his being turned away at the border being due to paperwork not filed on time. I apologize for my mistake, I was mis-informed. Apparently it was more a matter of some heavy-handed customs goons wanting to flex their pencil-pushing muscles. Again, I am sorry. Flame away. RJ From martynl at FUJITSU.COM.AU Fri Aug 21 11:52:48 1998 From: martynl at FUJITSU.COM.AU (Martyn Lawrence) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:52:48 EST Subject: HW: Conspiracy vs. Dave In-Reply-To: <35DCBEAE.6507FECC@blackboard.com>; from "sprawl" at Aug 20, 98 08:26:22 pm Message-ID: > > Hello people, > > I just received an e-mail from Dave Brock, which in no uncertain terms > advised me that I was wrong in the info I posted about his being turned > away at the border being due to paperwork not filed on time. > Does this mean dave is on boc-l? If he is/you are ,then welcome to the list Dave. regards Marty From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Thu Aug 20 21:05:46 1998 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Doug Pearson) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 18:05:46 -0700 Subject: HW: Conspiracy vs. Dave Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Aug 1998 20:26:22 -0400, RJ sprawl posted: > I just received an e-mail from Dave Brock, which in no uncertain terms >advised me that I was wrong in the info I posted about his being turned >away at the border being due to paperwork not filed on time. > > I apologize for my mistake, I was mis-informed. Apparently it was more >a matter of some heavy-handed customs goons wanting to flex their >pencil-pushing muscles. > > Again, I am sorry. Flame away. and, on Wed, 19 Aug 1998 13:47:34 -0400, RJ sprawl posted: >I agree with you, Jill. Our border laws suck big-time! But this last >was more of a case of: "Dave Brock can't remember to sign the littlepaper >and send it in in time to make the gig!" (But I _do_ think he shouldn't >HAVE to!) which was probably entirely based on what *I* posted on Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:25:39 -0700: >...However, if what I heard about Dave is true, I feel reason to be a >bit pissed off. As my information comes from conversations with Jim Lascko >and Jerry Richards, I feel like the information is valid enough to post >(but if I'm incorrect, please flame me!). The reason that Dave was not >admitted into the USA (even though he had no trouble getting into Canada) >is because he didn't have a visa. All he needed to do was fill out a form >and send it to a US consulate to get permission to enter the country. Just >a rubber stamp, that's all. If this is true, it bugs me that Dave didn't >have his sh*&%t together enough to get one stinkin' rubber stamp. If >someone can confirm this, I'd like to hear, but no more negativity from me >on this, I promise! which was corrected by Bob Lennon on Tue, 18 Aug 1998 20:32:54 EDT as follows: > what i heard from Jim was that Dave had applied for an exemption to come into >the country due to prior records on file....that the exemption was mailed out >and it never arrived in time for Dave to make his flight....he tried to >straighten this out when he got to Canada ... but to no avail... ... thereby confirming that the problem was NOT that Dave didn't have his s*(&%t together (unless he applied for the exemption 3 days before his scheduled departure), but rather that the US consulate or INS (Immigration/Naturalization Service) or whoever doles out the proper forms are the ones who screwed up (imagine that!). Which all means that I probably owe someone out there an apology/retraction (but what do you expect from someone who can't tell the difference between John Major and Tony Blair ... or Keith Henderson and Kevin Sommers [sorry Kev!] ... arrgh!). So ... sorry for having passed on severly mis-interpreted information, and, if indeed you're watching the list, welcome Dave! -Doug ceres at sirius.com From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Thu Aug 20 21:04:29 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 21:04:29 -0400 Subject: HW: Conspiracy vs. Dave Message-ID: Martyn Lawrence wrote: > Does this mean dave is on boc-l? > If he is/you are ,then welcome to the list Dave. > I doubt it. But the archives are available to all. And of course, people love to repeat things. I do know that Rizz keeps up on what is posted via the archives. Speaking of whom, has anyone heard Rizz's new album "I can see clearly now the brain is gone?" It's pretty good. Features guest appearances by Ron Tree and Alan Davey. Most of the material is what they played on the 96 tour when they opened for HW. I like it MUCH better than its predecessor: "The Rizz Manifesto." Rj From hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Aug 20 23:37:36 1998 From: hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 22:37:36 -0500 Subject: HW: Fall tour, any news Message-ID: What's the status of the propsed Fall U.S. tour? If there is going to be October dates shouldn't we be hearing about them by now? From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Fri Aug 21 04:34:12 1998 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 09:34:12 +0100 Subject: HW: What's going on??? In-Reply-To: <199808181911.PAA18253@mail3.uts.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: >How bit this? Tell me you don't find *this* interesting! OK, . Damn, I can't keep a straight face. Yes, this is fascinating! Can someone who has read Ledge of Darkness summarise what the Death Generator sequence is all about? Dave. Harlequin Ltd., Lismore House, 127 George St, Edinburgh, EH2 4JN, UK. Tel: +44 131 240 6106. From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Fri Aug 21 00:39:45 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 04:39:45 +0000 Subject: OFF: FF Movie (was Avengers Cast List) Message-ID: > Hmm.. I can still name the villains in each of the first ten issues of > Fantastic Four, but I'm not sure this is really the place to do it :) > > - Andy I'll stay off list for just another second here to ask: Does anybody know what happened to that Fantastic Four movie? I'm pretty sure it was made, but to my knowledge it was never released anywhere...even video. Although I think I saw a still from it in a magazine or something. Any info? -- Nick From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Fri Aug 21 04:48:19 1998 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (M S Wright) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 09:48:19 +0100 Subject: HW: What's going on??? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980821093412.009ace30@mailhost.ed.harlequin.co.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, Dave Berry wrote: > Can > someone who has read Ledge of Darkness summarise what the Death Generator > sequence is all about? No. But then I thought the whole LoD was a mish mash of fan writing and drawing with a confused story lagging ages behind. Mind you neith TotH or QoD qould get my vote for good read if they weren't about my fave band. Still, if you want a comic based on a fairly good representation of HW then you aint got a big choice, and if you like B+W psychedelia and festy nonsense and don't like Russel, then it's fairly OK (just the once mind you). Or am I wrong? Mike w From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Fri Aug 21 05:02:02 1998 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:02:02 +0100 Subject: HW: What's going on??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 09:48 21/08/98 +0100, M S Wright wrote: >Mind you neith TotH or >QoD qould get my vote for good read if they weren't about my fave band. I read TotH ages ago, and haven't felt the need to since. It was kind of fun though, and could make a good show if weren't done too earnestly. >and if you like B+W psychedelia and festy >nonsense and don't like Russell, Don't like Russell? Isn't that illegal? ;-) Admittedly later issues seemed to go from story-telling mode into rant mode, but the first few are brilliant. Oh no, I've joined the comics thread! Lead me to the death generators, I confess, I confess! (I think I'd better confess...) Dave. Harlequin Ltd., Lismore House, 127 George St, Edinburgh, EH2 4JN, UK. Tel: +44 131 240 6106. From sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK Fri Aug 21 05:14:14 1998 From: sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:14:14 +0100 Subject: HW: What's going on??? Message-ID: Subject: Re: HW: What's going on??? >On Fri, 21 Aug 1998, Dave Berry wrote: > >> Can >> someone who has read Ledge of Darkness summarise what the Death Generator >> sequence is all about? I`m going by memory here, but isn`t the Death Generator the thing in Time Of The Hawklords. It was a device that was sending powerful rays across the earth making people depressed (or something) and only Hawk Music could stop the effects so the band had to play constantly with various members taking turns to do shifts to keep the music going while others tried to find a way to stop the rays. Only live music worked as it had a special quality that studio recordings didn`t. As I say, I`m going from memory as I haven`t read the book for years. Si ----- "I`ve got 'some' answers to 'most' of your questions!" The Alice Cooper Trivia File - http://village.vossnet.co.uk/s/sihalley/intro.html My Tubes Page - http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/7998/ From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Fri Aug 21 05:56:20 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 05:56:20 -0400 Subject: HW: Conspiracy vs. Dave Message-ID: Doug Pearson wrote: > which was probably entirely based on what *I* posted on > Tue, 18 Aug 1998 13:25:39 -0700: Nah, Doug. I did not base my information on your post. I knew the deal on friday, the first day of the festival. Or rather I _thought_ I knew the deal. I believe it all comes down to our wonderously efficient (lol) government. It appears the orders never reached the right hands, or were ignored. Probably got lost in the chaos of Ken Starr's Dick Tracy fantasy. I think the mis-information was the product of hurried explanations over the phone, coloured by disappointment. rj From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Aug 21 07:53:33 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 12:53:33 +0100 Subject: HW: What's going on??? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980821100202.00a10220@mailhost.ed.harlequin.co.uk> Message-ID: > Oh no, I've joined the comics thread! Lead me to the death generators, I > confess, I confess! (I think I'd better confess...) > It might be OK to talk about MM's Multiverse, which just ended :) Ulitmately it didn't work for me, but Walter Simonson had a damn good go at drawing the undrawable, and there was quite a lot of fun on the way. Probably unfair to go into detail until the Australians have had a chance to read the conclusion, though! - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Fri Aug 21 09:23:17 1998 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 09:23:17 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: News on new album Message-ID: I haven't seen this posted here, but Albert posted info recently on the tBS AOL board (hey Al - don't forget you were on BOC-L before that board existed! ;-) ) regarding the upcoming tBS album. Tentative release is January of 1999 - while I initially was concerned that the "one album per year" string was going to be broken, Deb informed us that this was to be a DOUBLE ALBUM, so I guess we can forgive them an extra month. I forget the working song titles now (Al mentioned only a few), but there will be some material penned by both Pete Bohovesky and Billy Hilfiger on the album. The band has already cut a few tracks for it. Also, there's a new Meltzer tune, and I think a Helen Wheels one as well. More details sure to follow... John From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Aug 21 09:09:48 1998 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 14:09:48 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 20 Aug 1998 to 21 Aug 1998 In-Reply-To: <199808210900.FAA08167@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Martyn Lawrence wrote: Referring to Rizz's latest offering >Features guest appearances by Ron Tree and Alan Davey. For the guys anywhere near Derby (England). Mr Davey will be in Derby on the 18th Sep, ttbomk a gig will be played by Bedouin at The Victoria PH, opposite the railway station (literally). Mark. HAND, Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Work mark at esparto.demon.co.uk Private mark.lee at dial.pipex.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Fri Aug 21 10:37:27 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 10:37:27 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: News on new album Message-ID: John said: >[...] regarding the upcoming tBS album. > >Tentative release is January of 1999 Woo-hoo! Birthday present! >[...]Also, there's a new Meltzer tune, and I think a Helen Wheels >one as well. More details sure to follow... I wonder if the Meltzer tune came out of the "ways to kill me" lyrics he presented the band at the Portland show? (thanks again John) If the new Helen Wheels song for tBS is as good as "Niagra Falls", then it should be a show stopper. Since M* was mostly covers, I wonder if the new album will be all originals? More info please. ;-) Brian obCD at work> tBS: "Trepanation" ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- From abrevard at SHL.COM Fri Aug 21 14:01:16 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 11:01:16 -0700 Subject: OFF: Attention Bass Players Message-ID: To all the bass players on the list who love tone and great thumping highly recommend Poundhound's "Massive Grooves from the Electric Church of Psychofunkadelic Grungelism Rock Music". A mouthful I know. Music is very much like the title in that all these styles can be heard. Poundhound is Doug Pinnick, bass player for King's X. He plays everything but drums. Theo, Doug must have taken guitar lessons from Ty, same tone and everything. Anyhow I thought I pass this on to the bass aficiandos and players on the list. Doug's bass sounds PHAT! Ghost in the Ruins OBCD - "Massive Grooves from the Electric Church of Psychofunkadelic Grungelism Rock Music" - Poundhound From Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE Fri Aug 21 14:21:16 1998 From: Andreas.Stuewe at T-ONLINE.DE (Andreas) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 20:21:16 +0200 Subject: BEDOUIN Message-ID: Alan Davey & Bedouin will be in the Netherlands, but so far there?s only one gig: Sept. 3rd, Zoetermeer, De Boerderij, Amerikaweg 145, entry at 8 pm, show starts 8.30 pm, no support act, 15,00 hfl. I think I?ll be there. Andreas From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Fri Aug 21 19:01:52 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 19:01:52 -0400 Subject: HW: FORWARD FROM DAVE Message-ID: ATTENTION: FORWARDED FROM DAVE BROCK Hello Ron and Karyn, {{{Personal stuff snipped!}}} We have had such a shit time you would not believe. We spent 4 days trying every possible way of getting to the festival, going to the Embassy in Toronto, immigration, Niagra etc. We had people working 24 hours a day in UK, sitting outside sorting offices at 4.00am as US Embassy claimed that they had sent visa. A courier service was waiting to bring it across in 8 hours, we were waiting...... There was supposed to be a phone link to the gig so I could directly address the fans, also I was going to sing a number down the phone, we sat in the hotel room all evening and no call came, we rang 3 times, eventually we were told that they had not got it together. The next 3 days were spent trying to change our plane tickets so that we could come home. When we got home, we were inundated with e-mails from people who had been told that it was all our own fault and that we had not been bothered to get the visas together. (The passports have been at the US embassy since June. The embassy will not do anything until the paperwork at the US side is completed by the promoter.) You can imagine how it felt to come home to all of this..... If you can post the correct version on BOC we would be grateful - Dave Also: Hello Folks! This is Dave Brock here and I would like to say that on Wednesday 12th August, Ron and me were refused entry into the USA. Ron was put onto a plane and sent back to England and I went to the US embassy in Toronto to see if I could get my visa, but to no avail. The reason being, in 1974, I was busted for marihuana and the US seems to regard me as some dangerous character about to corrupt people. Anyway, I went to Niagra to try there on Friday, no luck. Now I hear that the band did not make an announcement. To be told the truth of what was happening, I even asked for a mobile to link up with the PA so that I could explain to all. Nobody seemed to want to do this. I did all that I could, it seems that the US immigration did not want me there. It was not merely a case of filling in forms on time! STOP THESE RUMOURS!!!!! From hwind at GLOBALNET.CO.UK Fri Aug 21 19:51:11 1998 From: hwind at GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 00:51:11 +0100 Subject: Strange Daze THE TRUTH!!!!!!! Message-ID: Hello Folks! > > This is Dave Brock here and I would like to say that on Wednesday 12th > August, Ron and me were refused entry into the USA. > Ron was put onto a plane and sent back to England and I went to the US > embassy in Toronto to see if I could get my visa, but to no avail. > The reason being, in 1974, I was busted for marihuana and the US seems to > regard me as some dangerous character about to corrupt people. > Anyway, I went to Niagra to try there on Friday, no luck. > Now I hear that the band did not make an announcement. To be told the truth > of what was happening, I even asked for a mobile to link up with the PA so > that I could explain to all. Nobody seemed to want to do this. > I did all that I could, it seems that the US immigration did not want me > there. > It was not merely a case of filling in forms on time! > STOP THESE RUMOURS!!!!! We have had such a shit time you would not believe. We spent 4 days trying every possible way of getting to the festival, going to the Embassy in Toronto, immigration, Niagra etc. We had people working 24 hours a day in UK, sitting outside sorting offices at 4.00am as US Embassy claimed that they had sent visa. A courier service was waiting to bring it across in 8 hours, we were waiting...... There was supposed to be a phone link to the gig so I could directly address the fans, also I was going to sing a number down the phone, we sat in the hotel room all evening and no call came, we phoned the festival 3 times, eventually we were told that they had not got it together. The next 3 days were spent trying to change our plane tickets so that we could come home. When we got home, we were inundated with e-mails from people who had been told that it was all our own fault and that we had not been bothered to get the visas together. (The passports have been at the US embassy since June. The embassy will not do anything until the paperwork at the US side is completed by the promoter.) You can imagine how it felt to come home to all of this..... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hwind at GLOBALNET.CO.UK Fri Aug 21 20:04:51 1998 From: hwind at GLOBALNET.CO.UK (XXX) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 01:04:51 +0100 Subject: HW Strange Daze THE TRUTH!!!!!! Message-ID: Hello Folks! > > This is Dave Brock here and I would like to say that on Wednesday 12th > August, Ron and me were refused entry into the USA. > Ron was put onto a plane and sent back to England and I went to the US > embassy in Toronto to see if I could get my visa, but to no avail. > The reason being, in 1974, I was busted for marihuana and the US seems to > regard me as some dangerous character about to corrupt people. > Anyway, I went to Niagra to try there on Friday, no luck. > Now I hear that the band did not make an announcement. To be told the truth > of what was happening, I even asked for a mobile to link up with the PA so > that I could explain to all. Nobody seemed to want to do this. > I did all that I could, it seems that the US immigration did not want me > there. > It was not merely a case of filling in forms on time! > STOP THESE RUMOURS!!!!! We have had such a shit time you would not believe. We spent 4 days trying every possible way of getting to the festival, going to the Embassy in Toronto, immigration, Niagra etc. We had people working 24 hours a day in UK, sitting outside sorting offices at 4.00am as US Embassy claimed that they had sent visa. A courier service was waiting to bring it across in 8 hours, we were waiting...... There was supposed to be a phone link to the gig so I could directly address the fans, also I was going to sing a number down the phone, we sat in the hotel room all evening and no call came, we phoned the festival 3 times, eventually we were told that they had not got it together. The next 3 days were spent trying to change our plane tickets so that we could come home. When we got home, we were inundated with e-mails from people who had been told that it was all our own fault and that we had not been bothered to get the visas together. (The passports have been at the US embassy since June. The embassy will not do anything until the paperwork at the US side is completed by the promoter.) You can imagine how it felt to come home to all of this..... From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Fri Aug 21 22:40:33 1998 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 22:40:33 EDT Subject: HW Strange Daze 98 pics Message-ID: hello, i just put some of the many SD98 pics up my website: http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/picindex.html i will be putting more up as i get time... there are many that turned out nice bob http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From StevenTice at AOL.COM Sat Aug 22 02:00:47 1998 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 02:00:47 EDT Subject: OFF: FF Movie (was Avengers Cast List) Message-ID: In a message dated 98-08-21 04:35:55 EDT, you write: << I'll stay off list for just another second here to ask: Does anybody know what happened to that Fantastic Four movie? I'm pretty sure it was made, but to my knowledge it was never released anywhere...even video. Although I think I saw a still from it in a magazine or something. Any info? >> Last I heard, that movie was so bad that they refused to release it, but you can find copies of it for sale if you try hard enough...:-) Try video sellers at comics conventions! :-) SET From john.m.gray at MCI2000.COM Sat Aug 22 04:06:12 1998 From: john.m.gray at MCI2000.COM (john.m.gray) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 01:06:12 -0700 Subject: Off: Comics Message-ID: I know several of you are into comics, has anyone heard of the book "DC Big Five War Comic Guide". I had thought I had seen a reference to it somewhere, but I'll be damned if I can find either the book or where I got the idea that it exists. Thanks, John From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Aug 21 13:05:34 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 18:05:34 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 20 Aug 1998 to 21 Aug 1998 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Mark P Lee writes >For the guys anywhere near Derby (England). >Mr Davey will be in Derby on the 18th Sep, ttbomk a gig ^^^^^^ >will be played by Bedouin at The Victoria PH, opposite >the railway station (literally). ttbomk? -- Jon From hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET Sat Aug 22 05:42:00 1998 From: hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 04:42:00 -0500 Subject: HW: The Truth Message-ID: > > The reason being, in 1974, I was busted for marihuana and the US seems to > > regard me as some dangerous character about to corrupt people. > > Anyway, I went to Niagra to try there on Friday, no luck. I figured it was something stupid like this. How do you fix this? Has the U.S. decided to permanantly ban him? What a bunch of shit!! Why don't we permanantly ban Bill Clinton, he's a pothead. What about Paul Mccartney? Hell let's ban everybody. I wish there was something the fans could do, but if we complain to the authorities it would just make things worse. From micci at SCI.FI Sat Aug 22 06:38:43 1998 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 13:38:43 +0300 Subject: HW: Conspiracy vs. Dave Message-ID: Hi! >Speaking of whom, has anyone heard Rizz's new album "I can see clearly >now the brain is gone?" It's pretty good. Features guest appearances >by Ron Tree and Alan Davey. Most of the material is what they played on >the 96 tour when they opened for HW. I like it MUCH better than its >predecessor: "The Rizz Manifesto." >Rj Is there a label and catalogue number? Miikka Wagner email: micci at sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM Sat Aug 22 09:49:19 1998 From: johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 15:49:19 +0200 Subject: BOC: Antichrist Message-ID: while searching after web sites covering the recent Armageddon movie, I stumbeled across the www.antichrist.com site. while browsing those pages, I found this page that might be of interest for the BOC side of this list - www.antichrist.com/boyblue.htm as a sideeffect, the page .../bloc.htm contains 116k of BOC lyrics. no hw references found so far, best -joe ObLine: welcome to the future, Dave. From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Aug 22 09:35:02 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 14:35:02 +0100 Subject: HW: The Truth In-Reply-To: <35DE9268.9FF29DCC@earthlink.net> Message-ID: In article <35DE9268.9FF29DCC at earthlink.net>, Dan Witt writes >I figured it was something stupid like this. How do you fix this? Has >the U.S. decided to permanantly ban him? What a bunch of shit!! Why >don't we permanantly ban Bill Clinton, he's a pothead. If only he was. Dude should chill. -- Jon From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Sat Aug 22 11:19:48 1998 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 11:19:48 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: News on new album Message-ID: Brian asked: >be a show stopper. Since M* was mostly covers, I wonder if the new >album will be all originals? Only one cover and it's looking like it'll make the record. We recorded a lot more material than we plan to use but with a double CD format we won't have to cut anything if it turns out good enough. Don't bother asking what it is because Deb wants it all to be a big surprise! From adawson at CLARA.NET Sat Aug 22 13:51:31 1998 From: adawson at CLARA.NET (Andrew Dawson) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 18:51:31 +0100 Subject: Bedouin gig (Was: BOC-L Digest - 20 Aug 1998 to 21 Aug 1998) In-Reply-To: <6DvBoFBeja31EwSq@comics.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: At 18:05 21/08/98 +0100, you wrote: >In article , Mark P Lee > writes >>For the guys anywhere near Derby (England). >>Mr Davey will be in Derby on the 18th Sep, ttbomk a gig > ^^^^^^ >>will be played by Bedouin at The Victoria PH, opposite >>the railway station (literally). To which Jon raised the question >ttbomk? to the best of my knowledge >-- >Jon > Can anyone confirm this gig. I only live 15 miles outside Derby so it looks like i'll be there. Any one else ?. Andy Andrew Dawson adawson at clara.net Into Hawkwind ? Then check out the Worldwide discography. http://home.clara.net/adawson From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Aug 22 14:35:35 1998 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 14:35:35 EDT Subject: Hawkwind/Space rock Chatroom Message-ID: hello, i know these things are popping up all over the place and they usually dont get much attention ... but i've set up a hawkwind chatroom on my website: http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/chat.html these web chats are good for folks all over to live chat with each other any1 interested stop by and say hi,... i dont know how often i'll be in it...but it could be a cool hangout for Hawkwind fans.... space is deep bob http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From christmu at EUNET.NO Sat Aug 22 16:00:57 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:00:57 +0200 Subject: OFF: dem comix dem comics dem bone dry komeeks In-Reply-To: <199808210900.LAA09665@login-2.eunet.no> Message-ID: >I'll stay off list for just another second here to ask: Does anybody >know what happened to that Fantastic Four movie? I'm pretty sure it >was made, but to my knowledge it was never released anywhere...even >video. Although I think I saw a still from it in a magazine or >something. Any info? > >-- Nick Its availible as a bootleg. Its 100% utter crap, though fun to watch. Wotta MONSTER turkey. Marvel were so completely embarrassed about it they withdrew *after* its completion! Its chintzy as hell. Imagine, worse than any other Marvel movie. Dr. Doom is a gas, in silver painted latex armor! Looks real funny when he talks :) I recall there was this huge computer generated scene near the end where the Human Torch goes into a volcano or an atomic blast (or the sun, or some hot fuckin place other than Hell) and its all cheezy computer graphics (tho kinda cool, I saw this about 3-4 years ago, memory is HAZY!). In the end Reed & Sue get married, and, erm, Reed (AKA Mr. Fantastic), WAVES to the people attending. Find the rest out at your own risk! (apropos offensively off-topic:I thought the Capt. America movie was forgivable despite the PLASTIC EARS on Cap. Better than Dolph Lundgren as a generic Punisher. Or "Thor" (GAH! Walt S.???) guesting with Lou Ferrigno/Bill Bixby (RIP) Hulk. Never saw the Daredevil one. Thank GOD! I understand Marvel are going bankrupt again. PRAISE! Lets do the "#1 jig" AGAIN! Lets just turn the old fans AWAY! We almost got them back with Gene Colan on Daredevil and Alan Davis on FF, but NOOOO! STAY AWAY, you over-25's! (except mr. Brevard :) Argh. I am a bitter person who occasionally reads Comics Journal (no comics anymore aside from Hellblazer, or Crumb comix, it seems) just to bitch and say "Yeah! assholes! Grrr!" Theo, keep your memories, and like sell those fuckin books FAST ey???? I already told you you were stinkin rich months ago- :) Christian ObCD: loads, huge trade closed. Incl. Brainticket - Cottonwoodhill, like wow. PS: met up with Scott Heller and Carl E Anderson the list last nite here in Oslo, provided some square feet of surface, & some walking today (the Voices of Wonder shop probably a drab highlight!). They told me only TWENTY people attended the spacefest in Jonk?ping!!! From johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM Sat Aug 22 16:49:06 1998 From: johan.edlundh at HABO.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Johan Edlundh) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 22:49:06 +0200 Subject: OFF: dem comix dem comics dem bone dry komeeks Message-ID: >PS: met up with Scott Heller and Carl E Anderson the list last nite here in >Oslo, provided some square feet of surface, & some walking today (the >Voices of Wonder shop probably a drab highlight!). They told me only TWENTY >people attended the spacefest in Jonk?ping!!! oh geez, we scandinavians are a bit shy, and tend to avoid crowded places. remember the hawk tour 91 - I think - when Brock & co played Borl?nge, Dalecarlia. a friend of mine was there. according to his story there was only five in the audience. may this be the hawk low score of all time? not one of the twenty, but silver and bronze. -joe From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Sat Aug 22 19:15:39 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 19:15:39 -0400 Subject: HW: Conspiracy vs. Dave Message-ID: label: Topp Rizz Records. Cat#: CDRIZZRU2 I THINK this may be available from EBS. I bought it at SD98, so I don't know what the normal channels are... rj Miikka Wagner wrote: > > Hi! > > >Speaking of whom, has anyone heard Rizz's new album "I can see clearly > >now the brain is gone?" It's pretty good. Features guest appearances > >by Ron Tree and Alan Davey. Most of the material is what they played on > >the 96 tour when they opened for HW. I like it MUCH better than its > >predecessor: "The Rizz Manifesto." > >Rj > > Is there a label and catalogue number? > > Miikka Wagner > email: micci at sci.fi > http://www.sci.fi/~micci From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Sat Aug 22 19:17:22 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1998 19:17:22 -0400 Subject: HW: The Truth Message-ID: Dan Witt wrote: > I figured it was something stupid like this. How do you fix this? Has > the U.S. decided to permanantly ban him? What a bunch of shit!! Why > don't we permanantly ban Bill Clinton, he's a pothead. He shouldn't be banned fort smoking pot. He should be banned for LYING about it. Locking up people for taking the same pleasure he took himself. RJ From mordru at FLITE.NET Sun Aug 23 03:57:55 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 03:57:55 -0400 Subject: BÖC in House of Blues (Orlando) Message-ID: Great show.... opening act was pretty good. Got in too late to get anywhere to sit, ended up standing directly in front of stage (just off to stage right a bit). Sound quality excellent. Numerous bozos climbing on stage, including one who leapt back into the crowd trying to escape bouncers.... Excellent venue... BOC is moving up.... they played a commercial from a local radio station plugging Heaven Forbid... setlist Burning for you Cities on Flame E.T.I. Harvest Moon Buck's Boogie (order somewhat foggy from here) Joan Crawford (!) Lips in the Hills In Thee See You in Black Last Days of May Flaming Telepaths Godzilla Don't Fear the Reaper -encores- Dominance & Submission The Red & The Black Was surprised as hell to hear Allen banging out that Joan Crawford piano intro on the keys... The noise effects were off somewhat, messing with Eric who seemed to want to mouth the "christina" parts... Eric has trouble with the wireless feed from his guitar, eventually the hob staff gave up and gave him a chord, which was not nearly long enough for his tastes, and got tangled on equipment several times. Minor glitch on In Thee, Allen had trouble with his guitar, plucked at it inquiringly with a puzzled expression, then Eric reached over and hit some switch and it was ok after that... Sound level very nice, not as loud as last time I saw them (Mr. Laff's). Place had a camera feeding video to various monitors throughout the place.... were they filming? Overall, excellent show. Buck in top form. Danny did a good job. Everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves.... More info when it isn't 4am after getting back from the show... -AAA From christmu at EUNET.NO Sun Aug 23 07:54:38 1998 From: christmu at EUNET.NO (christmu at EUNET.NO) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 13:54:38 +0200 Subject: SD98 Message-ID: Someone might have posted this URL already, if so here it is again : http://www.infinet.com/~jkranitz/space/sd98/page1.html lots of snaps from Strange Daze 98 - more than 20 people!! (joe: when Hawkwind played Oslo, there were between 60-100 people, and one could just stroll up to the front of the stage and stand next to the lonely headbanger, the stoned chick, or the two guys who were totally into it but hadn't heard anything since Warrior ;) Christian From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sun Aug 23 10:25:06 1998 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 10:25:06 EDT Subject: SD98 Message-ID: i went to the URL below and there are plenty of excellent SD98 pics there as a matter of fact, i was surprised to see that i was in the "group of HW" fans pic. i managed to identify some of the people by the backs of their heads but couldnt make out every1...any1 figure it out? there was a shortage of HW pics on this fine gallery of pics/pages... but all is not lost since i posted about 10 HW pics on my pics page: http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/picindex.html and will be adding more as i get time shortly...maybe today... space is missing, bob http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html In a message dated 98-08-23 08:00:01 EDT, you write: << Someone might have posted this URL already, if so here it is again : http://www.infinet.com/~jkranitz/space/sd98/page1.html lots of snaps from Strange Daze 98 - more than 20 people!! >> From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Aug 23 10:49:35 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 15:49:35 +0100 Subject: HW : a quick question...? Message-ID: Where's my Palace Springs, dammit? -- Jon ObCD's Business Trip, Love In Space double, Distant Horizons, Friends and Relations Vol.6 From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sun Aug 23 13:22:03 1998 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 13:22:03 EDT Subject: HW SD98 tapes tapes tapes tapes... Message-ID: hi all.... sometimes its like emailing myself when i post to this list, (based soley upon the response...or lack of) LOL anyhow...any1 that wuz workin out tape trades w/me please be informed that i'll be away 4 about a week and my lack of response to any1's emails on the subj is not due to ignoring....see every1 next weekend bob http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/hawkwindrulesindex.html From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sun Aug 23 18:40:11 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 23:40:11 +0100 Subject: HW SD98 tapes tapes tapes tapes... In-Reply-To: Bob Lennon's message of Sun, 23 Aug 1998 13:22:03 EDT Message-ID: Bob Lennon writes: > hi all.... > sometimes its like emailing myself when i post to this list, > (based soley upon the response...or lack of) LOL yeah - I know the feeling! You log in to the Hawkwind list and the only new stuff for reading are the mails you posted half a day ago - I hate reading my own history! If anyone has any SD98 tapes for trade I'd be interested to hear from them! I hope someone is responding to Dave. Certainly all my sympathies go out to him! I can well imagine the frustration of being trapped in that bureauocratic mess and trying to get someone to even pay attention to you never mind do something about it. 25 years on (almost)! Nothing changes. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK Sun Aug 23 19:43:34 1998 From: alimac at NETCOMUK.CO.UK (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 23:43:34 +0000 Subject: BOC Webcast Message-ID: For you BOC guys: www.liveconcerts.com Friday Sept 11th. I think you can get the site to send you an e-mail 24 hours prior, as a reminder... Alasdair -- Page me online: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/1573250 Send me E-mail Express direct to my screen: 1573250 at pager.mirabilis.com alimac at netcomuk.co.uk (Alasdair Macdonald) From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Sun Aug 23 19:40:24 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 19:40:24 -0400 Subject: HW : a quick question...? Message-ID: Jon Browne wrote: > > Where's my Palace Springs, dammit? I haven't got it Jon. I swear! RJ From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sun Aug 23 22:07:36 1998 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 22:07:36 -0400 Subject: HW Strange Daze THE TRUTH!!!!!! Message-ID: Technicians of Cyberspace Hawkwind! This is your Captain speaking! Your Captain is undesirable! Your Captain is undesirable! :) >> This is Dave Brock... > >We have had such a shit time you would not believe. Ughhhh...now I feel guilty for having such a great time. >There was supposed to be a phone link to the gig so I could directly >address the fans, also I was going to sing a number down the phone, we sat >in the hotel room all evening and no call came, we phoned the festival 3 >times, eventually we were told that they had not got it together. Now this woulda been the coolest Hawkwind experience of my life. Could you imagine hearing a disembodied Brockian voice emanating from Strange Daze speakers?? "I am a clone, I am quite alone... every fibre of my flesh and bone is holed up in this damn hotel in Canada." >The next 3 days were spent trying to change our plane tickets so that we >could come home. >When we got home, we were inundated with e-mails from people who had been >told that it was all our own fault and that we had not been bothered to get >the visas together. (The passports have been at the US embassy since June. >The embassy will not do anything until the paperwork at the US side is >completed by the promoter.) >You can imagine how it felt to come home to all of this..... Awright...WHO was it!?!?! :) Goddamn Ken Starr, it's all his fault. (Yer off the hook *this* time, Swann.) :) Keith H. (FAA) P.S. In the photo of HW fans, I think Mark Marianetti (sp?) is in there (perhaps his brother is one of the others?), and the guy with no shirt's name is John I think. I remember talking to him, anyway. From mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM Mon Aug 24 00:29:25 1998 From: mbraun at URBANA.CSS.MOT.COM (Matthew Braun) Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 23:29:25 CDT Subject: BRAIN: Re: News on new album In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 22 Aug 1998 05:00:37 CDT." <199808220900.FAA12843@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: John A Swartz writes: >Tentative release is January of 1999 - while I initially was concerned >that the "one album per year" string was going to be broken, Deb >informed us that this was to be a DOUBLE ALBUM, so I guess we can forgive >them an extra month. Hmmm...If they've got room, it sure would be nice to hear a redone "Gil Blanco County" (considering they re-did "The Girl Love Made Blind".) Or even the original GBC... :-) >I forget the working song titles now (Al mentioned >only a few), but there will be some material penned by both Pete Bohovesky >and Billy Hilfiger on the album. Cool--IMHO "Donkey Show" was one of the highlights of "Box Of Hammers". (It was even enough to persuade me to buy Billy's solo album, which is in fact an okay album.) m@ ObCD: Peter Bohovesky From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon Aug 24 07:09:14 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 07:09:14 -0400 Subject: OFF The Avengers cast list - More about X People Message-ID: > Ever see the "What if everyone who had ever been an avenger > remained an Avenger"?? > > short one-pager, showed, someone calling "Avengers assemble!" to > handle a candy store robbery, and the proceding trampling of the > entire block as all the avengers (all of them) gather to handle > the case... > I have this issue of "What If" It has a myriad or shot stories that were quite funny. What is Cyclops eyebeams came out of his ears (ruby earmuffs) What if Power-Man was a girl and Wonder-Man was a woman (We advise you not to continue - signed the competition) What if Black Bolt and the Inhumans were a rock group (Can't Get No, SATISFACTION!!!!) What if Doctor Strange was an ordinary stage magician (Pick a card, any card) From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 24 07:57:00 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 07:57:00 EDT Subject: BRAIN: Re: News on new album In-Reply-To: <199808240429.XAA16286@chestburster.urbana.css.mot.com> Message-ID: > > >I forget the working song titles now (Al mentioned > >only a few), but there will be some material penned by both Pete Bohovesky > >and Billy Hilfiger on the album. > Cool--IMHO "Donkey Show" was one of the highlights of "Box Of Hammers". > (It was even enough to persuade me to buy Billy's solo album, which is in > fact an okay album.) > Well, okay for you guys. But this is the man who brought us Imaginos. What are they wasting disc time with garbage like Donkey Show for? I don't get it... theo From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Aug 24 08:04:03 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 08:04:03 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Re: News on new album In-Reply-To: <17EC5A4767A@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Ted Jackson jr. s2h2 wrote: => > Cool--IMHO "Donkey Show" was one of the highlights of "Box Of Hammers". => > (It was even enough to persuade me to buy Billy's solo album, which is in => > fact an okay album.) => > => Well, okay for you guys. But this is the man who brought us => Imaginos. What are they wasting disc time with garbage like Donkey => Show for? I don't get it... They are hoping to get airplay on The Jerry Springer Show? ;-) Cheers, Paul. obCD: Bevis Frond, _Any Gas Faster_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 24 08:08:42 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 13:08:42 +0100 Subject: BRAIN: Re: News on new album In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Mon, 24 Aug 1998 08:04:03 -0400 Message-ID: Paul Mather writes: > On Mon, 24 Aug 1998, Ted Jackson jr. s2h2 wrote: > > => > Cool--IMHO "Donkey Show" was one of the highlights of "Box Of Hammers". > => > (It was even enough to persuade me to buy Billy's solo album, which is in > => > fact an okay album.) > => > > => Well, okay for you guys. But this is the man who brought us > => Imaginos. What are they wasting disc time with garbage like Donkey > => Show for? I don't get it... > > They are hoping to get airplay on The Jerry Springer Show? ;-) I hope not - I'd have to watch it then 8-( (just out of sheer curiosity you understand) jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Aug 24 05:48:26 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:48:26 +0100 Subject: HW : a quick question...? In-Reply-To: <35E0A868.3EFC2C0D@blackboard.com> Message-ID: In article <35E0A868.3EFC2C0D at blackboard.com>, sprawl writes >Jon Browne wrote: >> >> Where's my Palace Springs, dammit? > >I haven't got it Jon. I swear! >RJ No, it's alright, I found it. With it's red spine and the P..S.. it ended up in with the Primal Scream. Thanks for looking though. -- Jon obCD - Unkle : Psyence Fiction From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Mon Aug 24 09:40:00 1998 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 06:40:00 -0700 Subject: SD98 Message-ID: >i went to the URL below and there are plenty of excellent SD98 pics there >as a matter of fact, i was surprised to see that i was in the "group of HW" >fans pic. >i managed to identify some of the people by the backs of their heads but >couldnt >make out every1...any1 figure it out? Well, that's me in the white shirt.... Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu http://www.psn.net/~novadrive/ From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Mon Aug 24 10:05:11 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:05:11 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: News on new album Message-ID: Al said: >Only one cover and it's looking like it'll make the record. We recorded a >lot more material than we plan to use but with a double CD format we won't >have to cut anything if it turns out good enough. Don't bother asking what >it is because Deb wants it all to be a big surprise! No asking? How about some uneducated guesses? Everyone, feel free to shoot these down or tell me if you think I'm on to something here. ;-) 21st Century Schitzoid Man (King Crimson) Burn (Deep Purple) - Billy likes to play the riff while warming up for shows. CC Voodoo (BOC outtake?) I Just Want to Make Love to You (Foghat, etc.) My Guitar Wants to Kill Your Mama (Zappa) Shout at the Devil (Motley Crue) -Can't you see the Surgeons having a blast with this one? Back to reality, Brian ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- From sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU Mon Aug 24 10:42:31 1998 From: sonique at MAXWELL.PCMICRO.COM.AU (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Soniqu=E9?=) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 22:42:31 +0800 Subject: HW : a quick question...? Message-ID: On 23 Aug 98, at 19:40, sprawl wrote about Re: HW : a quick question...?: > Jon Browne wrote: > > > > Where's my Palace Springs, dammit? > > I haven't got it Jon. I swear! I thought had it here in Taiwan, but no, that's the biz trip and the repertoire comp. Sorry Jon Soniqu? From chip at PCC.COM Mon Aug 24 14:19:05 1998 From: chip at PCC.COM (Chip Hart) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 14:19:05 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: News on new album In-Reply-To: <329A5258416CD111928F006008A62C763531D8@bpxsv.156.106.206.in-addr.arpa> from "brian halligan" at Aug 24, 98 10:05:11 am Message-ID: > Al said: >>Only one cover and it's looking like it'll make the record. We recorded a >>lot more material than we plan to use but with a double CD format we won't >>have to cut anything if it turns out good enough. Don't bother asking what >>it is because Deb wants it all to be a big surprise! Brian: > No asking? How about some uneducated guesses? Everyone, feel free to > shoot these down or tell me if you think I'm on to something here. ;-) I've always hoped they'd do a good CCR cover. I think Deb (with Al growling behind her) could do a *ripping* cover of Fortunate Son, Lodi, I Put a Spell On You, Travelin' Band, Sinister Purpose, etc. Hell, I'd pay good money for an album of just CCR covers by the Brain Surgeons! :-) -- Chip Hart * chip @ pcc.com Physicians's Computer Company * http://www.pcc.com/~chip 15 Pinecrest Drive * Work:800-722-7708 Essex Junction, VT 05452 * Fax: 802-872-8214 From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 24 14:31:21 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 14:31:21 EDT Subject: BRAIN: News on new album In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >> From: Chip Hart > > Brian: > > No asking? How about some uneducated guesses? Everyone, feel free to > > shoot these down or tell me if you think I'm on to something here. ;-) > > I've always hoped they'd do a good CCR cover. I think Deb (with > Al growling behind her) could do a *ripping* cover of Fortunate > Son, Lodi, I Put a Spell On You, Travelin' Band, Sinister > Purpose, etc. Hell, I'd pay good money for an album of just CCR > covers by the Brain Surgeons! :-) > I'm a big CCR fan too, but I don't see tBS as a group too into covern them. But ya never know...I heard them do a ravin' cover of Skynyrd's Simple Man...Hey--there it is! Cat's out of the bag. New album live, studio or some of each? theo From abrevard at SHL.COM Mon Aug 24 15:39:59 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:39:59 -0700 Subject: OFF:dem comix dem comics dem bone dry komeeks Message-ID: >(apropos offensively off-topic:I thought the Capt. America movie was forgivable despite the PLASTIC EARS on Cap. There were two of these weren't there? One with Cap vs. the Red Skull and a second with Reb Brown who was the son of Capt. America. So bad MST3K wouldn't touch them. >Better than Dolph Lundgren as a generic Punisher. Or "Thor" (GAH! Walt S.???) guesting with Lou Ferrigno/Bill Bixby (RIP) Hulk. Naw Dolph was ok...heheheheh...I'm just a sucker for all his bad movies... Thor on Bill Bixby's Hulk, projectile vomiting commences...yuck >Never saw the Daredevil one. Thank GOD! Never knew they tried it. Would be pretty simple to do. I probably would have liked it as it took me 3-4 episodes to figure the live action Spidey series was trash...Guess this leaves us few hero movies/series to be proud of. The envelope puhlease..... {riiiippppppp} "And the winner of the best series based on a comic book character(s) is BATMAN! Excepting for the series is Adam West" 'thank you...thank you. I am here before you today to accept this award on behalf of the entire creative team...without them, well there would have been less drama. But I would be remiss if I did not take advantage of this forum to speak out on a true injustice. A wrong, so wrong that words themselves cannot ease the pain. To Tim Burton, F*$# you and the horse you rode in on. Why couldn't I be Batman in the first movie? Why Tim, why?" >I understand Marvel are going bankrupt again. PRAISE! Lets do the "#1 jig" AGAIN! Lets just turn the old fans AWAY! We almost got them back with Gene Colan on Daredevil and Alan Davis on FF, but NOOOO! STAY AWAY, you over-25's! (except mr. Brevard :) Naw comics these days just plain out suck. Women with disporportionate bodies and no clothes to boot (hmmm that ain't a bad thing after all). Nope I can bring out some of my classic Spidey and see more super hero action in one issue than Marvels entire run of every title in a month. Oh bring back the graphic Conan Mags... >Argh. I am a bitter person who occasionally reads Comics Journal (no comics anymore aside from Hellblazer, or Crumb comix, it seems) just to bitch and say "Yeah! assholes! Grrr!" Well if you want some real entertainment you should read the Tick. I'm a bigger fan of the animated series but the comic isn't half bad. >Theo, keep your memories, and like sell those fuckin books FAST ey???? I already told you you were stinkin rich months ago- :) Naw better idea, keep your memories and just mail the books to me hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha..... Ghost in the Ruins OBMost underrated Marvel Hero - The Black Panther From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Aug 24 15:42:22 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:42:22 -0400 Subject: OFF: Can anyone ID this Sundial release? Message-ID: A while ago I bought a used copy of some kind of Sundial CD single/EP. Can anyone ID its title for me? The contents are: 1. Going Down (single mix) [3:52] 2. Watch You Smile (single mix) [3:25] 3. Jewel [4:51] 4. Starbaby (live) [5:42] It's on Beggars Banquet, and the catalogue number appears to be BBQ 15 CD. Cheers, Paul. obCD-R: Gov't Mule, _Dancing Across the Water_ (misc. live Spring '98 covers) e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Mon Aug 24 15:56:03 1998 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 21:56:03 +0200 Subject: HW: SD98 track list Message-ID: Hi folks Have not seen here the exact track list from the HAWKWIND SD98 gig before. So here it is for you who were not there (like me) electronics wheels standing at the edge assault & battery golden void spirit of the age starfire mountain dreaming time we left space is deep brainstorm Bernhard From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon Aug 24 15:56:21 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:56:21 -0400 Subject: dem comix dem comics dem bone dry komeeks Message-ID: > >Never saw the Daredevil one. Thank GOD! > > Never knew they tried it. Would be pretty simple to do. I probably > would have liked it as it took me 3-4 episodes to figure the live action > Spidey series was trash...Guess this leaves us few hero movies/series to > be proud of. The envelope puhlease..... > > The Hulk & Dardevil movie was pretty sad. ('nuff said) Bill shows up changes into the Hulk once, finds out about this superhero name Daredevil (who dresses in black mind you). And spends the rest of the movie trying to convince DD that he should not give up the Superhero biz. (He got slammed by some sound waves early in the movie and thinks he's washed up). From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Mon Aug 24 16:49:16 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 16:49:16 -0400 Subject: dem comix dem WILDCARDS! Message-ID: Anyone heard about GRR Martin's Mosaic Wildcards novels/comics being made to movie? Heard Lavaar Burton talk about it on tv a couple yrs ago... rj Hall, Russell J wrote: > > > >Never saw the Daredevil one. Thank GOD! > > > > Never knew they tried it. Would be pretty simple to do. I probably > > would have liked it as it took me 3-4 episodes to figure the live action > > Spidey series was trash...Guess this leaves us few hero movies/series to > > be proud of. The envelope puhlease..... > > > > > The Hulk & Dardevil movie was pretty sad. ('nuff said) > > Bill shows up changes into the Hulk once, finds out about this superhero > name Daredevil > (who dresses in black mind you). And spends the rest of the movie trying to > convince DD that > he should not give up the Superhero biz. (He got slammed by some sound > waves early in the movie > and thinks he's washed up). From Nebosuke at AOL.COM Mon Aug 24 18:55:38 1998 From: Nebosuke at AOL.COM (Chris Baker) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 18:55:38 EDT Subject: BRAIN: Re: News on new album Message-ID: Theo wrote: > But this is the man who brought us Imaginos. What are they wasting disc time with garbage like Donkey Show for? Well, "the man who brought us Imaginos" is not "they"; maybe there's a hint in there somewhere. And maybe he doesn't feel the need to be grappling with Big Concepts in everything his band puts out. At any rate, my copy runs about 54 minutes, so it seems as though the disc time that Donkey Show "wasted" would have otherwise been blank. -Chris Baker From des at SUPERLINK.NET Mon Aug 24 19:36:22 1998 From: des at SUPERLINK.NET (E F) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 19:36:22 -0400 Subject: OFF: RE: Fantastic Four Movie Message-ID: Just my 2cents on the subject from what I remember reading/seeing: The reason the FF movie wasn't released was the rights were optioned by another studio for BIG bucks, to make a REAL movie with a real budget. (The one that was made was directed by Roger Corman, Nuff said) And they ate the Corman film. So it probably will never be released. I remember the preview for it - It looked like they spent all the money on their "Thing" costume. Had the same feel as the "Captain America" clunker that went straight to video a couple of years ago. You can find the preview for it as a trailer on some of Corman's newer movies on video (Carnosaur, Frankenstein, I think - but don't hold me to it). It had nothing to do with how bad it was (Even though it probably was). ...And just to keep it list oriented: Is anyone (besides me) going to the BOC show wednesday at the Tradewinds in Sea Bright, NJ? --Eric -- Words to live by from my cat: -If I had two dead mice, I'd give you one. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 24 19:50:18 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 19:50:18 EDT Subject: OFF: RE: Fantastic Four Movie In-Reply-To: <35E1F8F6.4AAE@superlink.net> Message-ID: > From: E F > Just my 2cents on the subject from what I remember reading/seeing: > > The reason the FF movie wasn't released was the rights > were optioned by another studio for BIG bucks, > to make a REAL movie with a real budget. > (The one that was made was directed by Roger Corman, Nuff said) > And they ate the Corman film. > So it probably will never be released. > I remember the preview for it - It looked like they spent all the money > on their "Thing" costume. Had the same feel as the "Captain America" > clunker > that went straight to video a couple of years ago. > You can find the preview for it as a trailer on some of Corman's newer > movies > on video (Carnosaur, Frankenstein, I think - but don't hold me to it). > > It had nothing to do with how bad it was (Even though it probably was). > > ...And just to keep it list oriented: Is anyone (besides me) going to > the BOC show wednesday at the Tradewinds in Sea Bright, NJ? > > --Eric > The only TV superhero flick I liked was the one with Thor and Hulk, where Thor hangs out with bikers! theo From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Aug 24 23:09:02 1998 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 23:09:02 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Re: News on new album Message-ID: Ted sniffs: >Well, okay for you guys. But this is the man who brought us >Imaginos. What are they wasting disc time with garbage like Donkey >Show for? I don't get it... Just come up with ANOTHER 3/4 mil and I'll give you two that'll blow Imaginos away! BoH was made for $1200. What I don't get is people who think you can just crank out Imaginos after Imaginos. Look I spent a fortune of my own money and a boatload of Columbia's on Imaginos and it was a BOMB!! Nobody bought it. Just ask Eric Bloom, it proves I'm out of it. And so are you Ted! Sorry... From inhaler at U.WASHINGTON.EDU Mon Aug 24 23:31:05 1998 From: inhaler at U.WASHINGTON.EDU (Peter Worley) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:31:05 -0700 Subject: OFF: List Question (Unsubscribe) Message-ID: Sorry to send this to the entire list, but I can't figure out how to unsubscribe (this email address is going away). Can somebody help me out? Thanks, -Pete From hawkwind at ZEBRA.NET Mon Aug 24 23:42:19 1998 From: hawkwind at ZEBRA.NET (Jerome Kekatos) Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 22:42:19 -0500 Subject: HW: Strangely Dazed Message-ID: Ok ok, I was there. Drove a 1000 miles, caught the end of the Pressurehed set, pretty good, but I was fairly zonked with road hum. Saturday was a delight, morning sat and talked with Jerry for a bit, joined by Richard, and then Rizz, passed the pipe. Wasn't going to be dissappointed by Dave and Ron's absence. Impressed by the amount of Hawkwind stuff for sale. Best band of the day (besides the Hawks, and yes my own opinion) was Quarkspace. Met a lot of fans, talked with members of just about all the bands... the guy who hitched in from colorado, the locals who didn't know Hawkwind, the guys who showed just cause they had one hawkwind album. Still don't know the name of the video guy from birmingham who I've talked with at every show since 89. Looked for the listsrv members without success (was sitting just a couple of yards behind the hawkwind fan shot...in the shade) me was tiedye '90 tour shirt. Pretty much pleased with the Hawkwind set. Richard once again proving that he's the POWERHOUSE, pounding it out like we were in the Roundhouse. When will Rizz learn the lyrics? The two fill-in Steves did good. And Jerry is the new blood the band needs. Sorta dug the regga-fied breaks in performance. All in all a fun set considering the bad breaks with trying to get everybody on that stage. Let me tell ya about a really weird set in may 75. At the airie crown in chicago, an auditorium stage flanked by massive brick walls, not designed for Hawkwind metal, bad echoes, and some kind of tension with the band. Nik having an off night, leading into sonic attack he smacks his head into the mic stand, it falls forward, Nik falls back, two roadies rush out and re-erect both, and Nik launches into a sonic attack on your district that came off like some kind of vaudeville act. Only caught part of Sunday, had to book out towards Chicago, should've stayed, got stuck on the Ohio turnpike for like 5 hours. Daze2 my eighteenth live show since 73. Wouldn't have missed it... From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Tue Aug 25 01:25:05 1998 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 01:25:05 EDT Subject: BRAIN: Re: News on new album Message-ID: In a message dated 08/24/98 10:46:38 PM Central Daylight Time, ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM writes: << Just come up with ANOTHER 3/4 mil and I'll give you two that'll blow Imaginos away! >> I'd LOVE to hear those two. What are they, anyway? << BoH was made for $1200. >> Damn! Impressive! Sounds MUCH more expensive than that! << What I don't get is people who think you can just crank out Imaginos after Imaginos. >> Uhhh... Albert, we think you're a GENIUS! And based on your track record, we're right! But we don't expect EVERY ONE to be an Imaginos... << Look I spent a fortune of my own money and a boatload of Columbia's on Imaginos and it was a BOMB!! >> I think most people on this list would disagree with you. I know I do... << Nobody bought it. >> I have 3 copies. As do a few others here... << Just ask Eric Bloom, it proves I'm out of it. >> Again, I think most here would disagree with you on this issue... << And so are you Ted! Sorry... >> No arguement there!! ;-) R. From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Tue Aug 25 03:02:41 1998 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:02:41 +0100 Subject: BRAIN: News on new album In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 14:19 24/08/98 -0400, Chip wrote: > > I've always hoped they'd do a good CCR cover. I think Deb (with > Al growling behind her) could do a *ripping* cover of Fortunate > Son, Lodi, I Put a Spell On You, Travelin' Band, Sinister ******************** Screamin' Jay Hawkins akcherly! ChrisW "My Palace Springs is my own!" From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Tue Aug 25 06:15:35 1998 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:15:35 +0100 Subject: BRAIN: News on new album In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 14:19 24/08/98 -0400, Chip Hart wrote: >> No asking? How about some uneducated guesses? This is getting needlessly self-referential, but how about the Monster Mash? ;-) Dave. Harlequin Ltd., Lismore House, 127 George St, Edinburgh, EH2 4JN, UK. Tel: +44 131 240 6106. From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Tue Aug 25 06:49:09 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 06:49:09 -0400 Subject: OFF: RE: Fantastic Four Movie Message-ID: > The only TV superhero flick I liked was the one with Thor and Hulk, > where Thor hangs out with bikers! > What I did not like about the Hulk/Thor is when they first meet it makes THor look like a wuss. Thor: "Take this you ugly troll!" and whips the hammer. Hulk: "Urrrrrr!!!!" After getting hit by said hammer Thor: "Maybe we can be friends" as he stares at the still standing Hulk. The real Thor would have just hit em again. "Verily, I smite thee again, troll!" From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Tue Aug 25 06:57:39 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 06:57:39 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Re: News on new album Message-ID: I'll have to agree with some of the others - Imaginos rocks. I myself have three copies (1 CD, 1 Tape, 1 LP). I would have to say that it is my personal fav of original stuff (ETL being a smidge ahead). I also want to thank you for the incredibly prompt service on my tBS order (just under 2 weeks - cool). I can't wait to listening to all of them. (Gotta love "I play the Drums"). Also, thanks of rthe special treatment on my Malpractice CD. Any chance you will be playing New England (Mama Kins, maybe)? > ---------- > From: Albert T Bouchard[SMTP:ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: Monday, August 24, 1998 11:09 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: Re: BRAIN: Re: News on new album > > Ted sniffs: > > >Well, okay for you guys. But this is the man who brought us > >Imaginos. What are they wasting disc time with garbage like Donkey > >Show for? I don't get it... > > Just come up with ANOTHER 3/4 mil and I'll give you two that'll blow > Imaginos away! BoH was made for $1200. What I don't get is people who > think > you can just crank out Imaginos after Imaginos. Look I spent a fortune of > my own money and a boatload of Columbia's on Imaginos and it was a BOMB!! > Nobody bought it. Just ask Eric Bloom, it proves I'm out of it. And so are > you Ted! Sorry... > From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 25 07:33:57 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 07:33:57 EDT Subject: BRAIN: Re: News on new album In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: Albert T Bouchard > Ted sniffs: > > >Well, okay for you guys. But this is the man who brought us > >Imaginos. What are they wasting disc time with garbage like Donkey > >Show for? I don't get it... > > Just come up with ANOTHER 3/4 mil and I'll give you two that'll blow > Imaginos away! BoH was made for $1200. What I don't get is people who think > you can just crank out Imaginos after Imaginos. Look I spent a fortune of > my own money and a boatload of Columbia's on Imaginos and it was a BOMB!! > Nobody bought it. Just ask Eric Bloom, it proves I'm out of it. And so are > you Ted! Sorry... I wasn't suggesting you come up with another Imaginos given current budget considerations. Besides, Imaginos evolved over many years [I think? and represented a bit of collaboration with Sandy, right?] Apples and oranges, this I understand. The only reason Imaginos was a bomb was because people weren't smart enough to buy a great album, not because of any artistic deficiencies. BOC had already started to sag, and I suspect a lot of the fans had moved on. As I said to somebody else, I can listen to Howard make shit jokes all morning for free. Maybe I'm just a repressed old fuck who doesn't get the current direction of music. For that I apologize. As for my being out of it...Well, Al, I'm one of your biggest fans... From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Tue Aug 25 08:39:00 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:39:00 -0400 Subject: BOC: Imaginos on CD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Aug 1998 Rocker22 at AOL.COM wrote: => << Nobody bought it. >> => I have 3 copies. As do a few others here... I bought a copy of _Imaginos_, on LP. I'd like to get a copy on CD, since my turntable (and vinyl) are across the Atlantic ocean. Does anyone know if it is still in print in Britain, so I can ask my brother to grab me a copy? I guess from what Al was saying, there's no plans to spiff it up with remastering, extra tracks, etc. I know my vinyl sounded somewhat "compressed" due, no doubt, to the running length. Cheers, Paul. obCD: Bevis Frond, _It Just Is_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Aug 25 09:54:55 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:54:55 +0100 Subject: OFF:dem comix dem comics dem bone dry komeeks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , BREVARD, Adrian R. writes >Naw comics these days just plain out suck. Trying very hard not to post on the subject, i wuz baited by this. Comics these days are the best they've ever been (esp if you include all the current reprints of the best old stuff) But the clue is, they're not published by Marvel. I will return to my comics-silence. -- Jon From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Aug 25 10:51:37 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:51:37 +0100 Subject: OFF: Unkle Message-ID: Amused to read the review of Unkle's _Psyence Fiction_ in Time Out: "Cripes. Is this _really_ the long-awaited LP from UNKLE? The humourlessly trendy but usually compelling Mo'Wax flagship project? Arty purveyors of dark, instrumental hip-hop? Apparently. But for most of this album, you'd think you were listening to bloody Hawkwind. "[etc etc...]" (Being humourlessly trendy myself, I bought the album yesterday. OK, I thought, although I wasn't sure where the cutting edge was. Another "useful" album to have :) - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 25 10:55:39 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:55:39 +0100 Subject: OFF: Unkle In-Reply-To: Andy Gilham's message of Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:51:37 +0100 Message-ID: Andy Gilham writes: > Amused to read the review of Unkle's _Psyence Fiction_ in Time Out: > > "Cripes. Is this _really_ the long-awaited LP from UNKLE? The humourlessly > trendy but usually compelling Mo'Wax flagship project? Arty purveyors of > dark, instrumental hip-hop? Apparently. But for most of this album, you'd > think you were listening to bloody Hawkwind. > > "[etc etc...]" > > (Being humourlessly trendy myself, I bought the album yesterday. OK, I > thought, although I wasn't sure where the cutting edge was. Another > "useful" album to have :) Well don't leave us in suspense - is it like listening to bloody Hawkwind ot not? > - Andy FoFP From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Aug 25 09:51:33 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 14:51:33 +0100 Subject: BRAIN: News on new album In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980825080241.007fa4b0@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: In article <3.0.5.32.19980825080241.007fa4b0 at mail.clara.net>, Chris Warburton writes >ChrisW >"My Palace Springs is my own!" I wuz only askin' if anyone knew where I put it. I wouldn't accuse any of yooz guyz. ah shucks, -- Jon From nick at THECAMPUS.COM Tue Aug 25 07:07:32 1998 From: nick at THECAMPUS.COM (Nick English) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:07:32 +0000 Subject: tBS,BOC AND SOME OFF Message-ID: Kinda hard to stay on-topic when there seems to be so much silence from the BOC camp these days. Although I will add in a little tidbit... I checked out that liveconcerts.com site that was posted here the other day. The September 11th BOC show is a double bill with Foghat, and I think BOC plays first. I'm not sure if it's an actual double bill or just two shows played back to back. Due to the name of the site, I'm going on the assumption that it is indeed a live show. Wow, Al got pretty jacked, huh? I imagine he's tired of having to justify what he's doing now with what he did 10+ years ago. I guess I can understand that. Finally, anyone know if Live for Me is doing anything on the charts? Has it even been released yet? The music director at my station says he hasn't seen it yet. But since we're alternative, he doesn't really check the rock charts for anything other than curiosity. -- Nick From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Aug 25 11:08:32 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:08:32 +0100 Subject: OFF: Unkle In-Reply-To: <199808251455.PAA21919@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > Well don't leave us in suspense - is it like listening to bloody > Hawkwind ot not? > Even before I read that review, I thought bits sounded like a more polished version of parts of _Strange Trips..._ I played it while working this morning but haven't really paid attention! More later maybe!!! - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From JOHNANDBEVBONO at WORLDNET.ATT.NET Tue Aug 25 07:18:31 1998 From: JOHNANDBEVBONO at WORLDNET.ATT.NET (JOHN BONO) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:18:31 -0000 Subject: tBS,BOC AND SOME OFF Message-ID: Nick- The BOC concert on liveconcerts.com was actually taped July 25 at the House of Blues. You can get their website-it's free.I subscribed and i'm waiting for the show- I'm also going to see them at Tradewinds in New Jersey wednesday Aug.26-just look for a Harley With Kronos on the back. -----Original Message----- From: To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Date: Tuesday, August 25, 1998 3:05 PM Subject: tBS,BOC AND SOME OFF Kinda hard to stay on-topic when there seems to be so much silence from the BOC camp these days. Although I will add in a little tidbit... I checked out that liveconcerts.com site that was posted here the other day. The September 11th BOC show is a double bill with Foghat, and I think BOC plays first. I'm not sure if it's an actual double bill or just two shows played back to back. Due to the name of the site, I'm going on the assumption that it is indeed a live show. Wow, Al got pretty jacked, huh? I imagine he's tired of having to justify what he's doing now with what he did 10+ years ago. I guess I can understand that. Finally, anyone know if Live for Me is doing anything on the charts? Has it even been released yet? The music director at my station says he hasn't seen it yet. But since we're alternative, he doesn't really check the rock charts for anything other than curiosity. -- Nick From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Tue Aug 25 11:30:04 1998 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:30:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: Unkle In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 25 Aug 1998 15:51:37 BST." <000101bdd037$dc3ce940$0100007f@default> Message-ID: > Amused to read the review of Unkle's _Psyence Fiction_ in Time Out: > > "Cripes. Is this _really_ the long-awaited LP from UNKLE? The humourlessly > trendy but usually compelling Mo'Wax flagship project? Arty purveyors of > dark, instrumental hip-hop? Apparently. But for most of this album, you'd > think you were listening to bloody Hawkwind. Hmm. I saw a pretty enthusiastic review in the Times on sunday which piqued my interest. And with Dj Shadow involved, can it go wrong? Looks like a disc to snag at the weekend :) Tim ObSong: Cake (who shit on the?), Desert Sessions vol I/II From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 25 11:42:23 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:42:23 EDT Subject: tBS,BOC AND SOME OFF In-Reply-To: <002401bdd01a$182ef6a0$af054f0c@default> Message-ID: > > Wow, Al got pretty jacked, huh? I imagine he's tired of having to > justify what he's doing now with what he did 10+ years ago. I guess I > can understand that. > Well, I've seen the band 5 times myself. Maybe Brian's seen them more than that, but I can't think of anyone else who might have. As a fan of over 25 years, I believe I'm entitled to question the integrity of 1 song, a song he didn't even write, but maybe I'm not. FWIW, whatever his opinion of me might be I still think the guy's a brilliant songwriter and musician, one of the very best in rock history... From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Aug 25 11:46:08 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 11:46:08 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: News on new album Message-ID: >In article <3.0.5.32.19980825080241.007fa4b0 at mail.clara.net>, Chris >Warburton writes >>ChrisW >>"My Palace Springs is my own!" > >I wuz only askin' if anyone knew where I put it. >I wouldn't accuse any of yooz guyz. (whisperwhisperStevetookitwhisper) overheard From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Aug 25 11:26:08 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:26:08 +0100 Subject: OFF: Unkle In-Reply-To: <199808251455.PAA21919@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: In article <199808251455.PAA21919 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk>, M Holmes writes >Well don't leave us in suspense - is it like listening to bloody >Hawkwind ot not? I don't think so. Maybe it pushes some of the same buttons. It is very eclectic and the contributors shape it a great deal. i.e. The track with Thom Yorke sounds like a Radiohead track, the Mike D contribution sounds like something off the new Beastie Boys etc. It's a very complete package and I think it's the best release of 1998 but as you know I am given to superlatives, and my reviews are often of no use as I have little in the way of critical faculites. You *will* parts it soon as it's gone staight in at #1, my spies tell me. and it really is *jolly* good. -- Jon From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Aug 25 11:16:26 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 16:16:26 +0100 Subject: OFF: Unkle In-Reply-To: <000101bdd037$dc3ce940$0100007f@default> Message-ID: In article <000101bdd037$dc3ce940$0100007f at default>, Andy Gilham writes >"Cripes. Is this _really_ the long-awaited LP from UNKLE? The humourlessly >trendy but usually compelling Mo'Wax flagship project? Arty purveyors of >dark, instrumental hip-hop? Apparently. But for most of this album, you'd >think you were listening to bloody Hawkwind. Ah. that would explain why I like it so much. I've got 10 of the amazing Unkle Action Figures coming in Thursday. cool. -- Jon - Humourlessly trendy. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 25 13:47:59 1998 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. s2h2) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 13:47:59 EDT Subject: AoF in GW In-Reply-To: <329A5258416CD111928F006008A62C763530BD@bpxsv.156.106.206.in-addr.arpa> Message-ID: Guitar World mag. has a column every month called Classic Rock Albums REvisited, a reminder to all today's young turks that good music did indeed exist before Korn. Anyway, this month's feature is an appreciation of AoF, including many quotes from BD. I highly recommend it to yas... theo From hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Aug 25 18:12:05 1998 From: hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 17:12:05 -0500 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles reissue Message-ID: A friend of mine who works at a record store just told me that Live Chronicles has just appeared as an import reissue. It is listed as a double CD with a third bonus CD. It is priced low. Anybody know what the bonus CD is? From antisol at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Aug 25 22:55:14 1998 From: antisol at HOTMAIL.COM (The Automind) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 19:55:14 PDT Subject: HW: The Truth/ Message-ID: >> > The reason being, in 1974, I was busted for marihuana and the US seems to >> > regard me as some dangerous character about to corrupt people. >> > Anyway, I went to Niagra to try there on Friday, no luck. > >I figured it was something stupid like this. How do you fix this? Has >the U.S. decided to permanantly ban him? What a bunch of shit!! Why >don't we permanantly ban Bill Clinton, he's a pothead. Dave should have sneaked in through the woods :)) I'm embarassed to admit that I didn't even notice that he wasn't there until the next day! I had a nice conversation with Rob Calvert though. I can recall some of it if no one minds: Initially I couldn't take my eyes off the stage planks in front of me, where an Egyptian emporer was sitting, offering me a hookah. Some drunken idiot kept up this shrill, ear-piercing whistle behind me for nearly a half hour, making me really uncomfortable and paranoid. I kept looking behind me trying to think of a way to make him quiet down without provoking a fight. Shock of paranoia! I thought the whole crowd was backing him up and ready to tear me to pieces if I shifted my position or changed the expression on my face. He almost fell on top of me once or twice, and I was a micro-locust's hair away from making a mad dash out of there wildly spraying Mace in front of me (That certainly would have ruined the festivities!). I was trying hard for a while to force myself out of this psychosis, but to no avail. I had never had so many hallucinogens in my system before in my entire life, and my thinking process had almost completely disintegrated- I desperately needed to focus on something intelligent. I was beginning to accept as reality that I would be a babbling idiot for the rest of life, when somehow I channeled in a ghostly presence of none other than Mr. Calvert!!! (fitting for the 10th anniversary of his passing) Everything was dark and cold all of a sudden, and I just sort of saw his face in front of me. His expression didn't change, his lips didn't move, but he was saying a thousand things at once, and the sound just sort of hovered there, then echoed into the darkness. It faded away leaving me completely alone, and I began to cry out to him, saying all sorts of things I can barely remember. Then, for a moment he flickered around me again- And SPIRIT OF THE AGE came on!!! It was like a wave of cold energy washing everything away. It was simply beautiful. I looked back and the drunken idiot wasn't even there anymore! The rest of the set was pure bliss. Now THAT's something that doesn't happen every day. Laugh all you want! STUPID APPROPRIATELY NAMED CONCERT!!! :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Aug 25 23:14:45 1998 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 23:14:45 -0400 Subject: tBS,BOC AND SOME OFF Message-ID: >Wow, Al got pretty jacked, huh? I imagine he's tired of having to >justify what he's doing now with what he did 10+ years ago. I guess I >can understand that. Yea I guess I did. Too much time backing up lately! Better than recreating all your work though ;-) From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Tue Aug 25 23:27:15 1998 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 23:27:15 -0400 Subject: tBS,BOC AND SOME OFF Message-ID: OK Ted: >a fan of over 25 years, I believe I'm entitled to question the >integrity of 1 song, a song he didn't even write, but maybe Sorry you don't like Donkey Show. I think it's hysterical myself and almost every time we play people call out for it (I guess that wasn't you though). If I didn't feel it was a worthy song it wouldn't have been on the album. Is it worse than "Let Go"? Imaginos was a concept album where anything that didn't fit into a rather narrow plot was left out. Maybe someday I'll do another one of those. Right now I'm into trying all different things out after years of being out of the loop. I'm having fun expressing my creativity in many different ways. Also I was only half joking when I said we must both be out of it. From mordru at FLITE.NET Tue Aug 25 23:54:59 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 23:54:59 -0400 Subject: tBS,BOC AND SOME OFF Message-ID: >Is it worse than "Let Go"? Hell, no. >Also I was only half joking when I said we must both be out of it. Half joking? lessee, 2 people, so half must mean that one of them is out of it and the other is not.... -AAA From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Wed Aug 26 01:05:40 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 01:05:40 -0400 Subject: HW: The Truth/ Message-ID: The Automind wrote: > > Now THAT's something that doesn't happen every day. Laugh all you want! I wouldn't laugh, I was the drunken whistling idiot! I saw him too! That's why I left! He wanted my drink! Just kidding. He was really after my tabs. I think I was behind the drunken whistler. Was he a short guy with glasses and a baseball cap? rj From s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Wed Aug 26 18:39:54 1998 From: s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Patrick Cordiner) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:39:54 PDT Subject: Multiverse Message-ID: Finally a comic topic worth discussing:-), the last Multiverse was good but definitely not what I expected. Walter Simonson doing a passable attempt at the nigh-impossible task of visualising Moorcock's words. Elric absorbing all incarnations of himself to create `a single chance of redemption for the entire multiverse'????? This I had problems with and does anyone know what `Next:The mathematics of Smoke' means? Is there more to come? Is it a joke? So yes, Australian readers have finally got the last issue, however I am still missing issues 9 and 11 because the bastard comic shop people only order in 5 copies for the entire of bloody Brisbane and then don''t order in any more, even on request, and they sell out in the first day!!!!!!!!!!! Can anyone help me out? Patrick Cordiner From antisol at HOTMAIL.COM Wed Aug 26 01:53:38 1998 From: antisol at HOTMAIL.COM (The Automind) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 22:53:38 PDT Subject: HW: The Truth/ Message-ID: >> Now THAT's something that doesn't happen every day. Laugh all you want! > >I wouldn't laugh, I was the drunken whistling idiot! I saw him too! >That's why I left! He wanted my drink! >Just kidding. He was really after my tabs. I think I was behind the >drunken whistler. Was he a short guy with glasses and a baseball cap? He was right up front at the beginning. I was sitting right at the base of the stage ( you can see the back of my head in some of the photos ) and he was directly behind me. He had a baseball cap (green?). No glasses. Glazed eyes, blank expression. The point of his whistle was to be as ear piercing as possible. He'd pause occasionally, and the moment I would register this and feel relief he'd start up again. I should have maced him! He had a dripping wet bag with him that I hope only contained ice or something. He was staggering all over the place falling on people (I'm surprised he didn't vomit on anyone, I applaud him for not doing that). At one point he even climbed onto the stage, and I think someone pulled him down- Maybe he had a friend with him. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Wed Aug 26 03:43:26 1998 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (Scott Heller) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:43:26 +0200 Subject: HW:Jonkoping 98' Message-ID: SPACE AND ROCK FESTIVAL- Rocksjon, Jonkoping, Sweden 8/14-15/98 The best Space Rock Festival ever put on, that no one came to.... The music at this event was really incredible but there were only 46 people to observe and document the event.. I believe that Carl Anderson and I were among perhaps 15 paying people and the rest were the members of the bands that played at the event. It was an incredible disappointment for the bands and especially Evert, who spent a lot of time and money to pull this event off and no one came.. Dietrich Pless and his wife drove 16 hours from Germany for the event, a british guy living in Trondheim (Norway), Andreas from Germany, and a few swedish rock fans had traveled from Stockholm, but that was about it for the paying fans... 8/14 SEAMONSTER- 15M EX* local band EVIL KNIEVEL- 25M EX* G?teborg THE MOOR w/Nik Turner- 90M EX Falk?ping MAN- 75M EX (Nik on Encore) Wales The Rockjon was a beautiful place. A fenced off area right on a lake with bathroom and shower facilities as well as a little place selling drinks and some food. We were able to camp right on the grounds behind the main stage. We would have gone swimming but the weather was not that great, with a temperature of around 60F and raining on and off, mostly on..... Anyway.... The place was set up with two stages. All the local acts except Ryno played on the 2nd stage. They tried to time it so one band would start soon after another finished. Seamonster, a local three piece band, were very heavy psych. They played all instrumental numbers some reminding of some of the japanese noise bands like Fushitsusha. Pretty cool band.. Next up was Evil Knievel from Goteborg, Sweden. They were also all instrumental but included a female organ player, which made their sound a bit more 60'ish.. They had really great bass lines and some pretty spacy stuff. These guys are really young and this was their first show, so we might want to watch out for them.. The MOOR were next and sounded really great! They played about 55 minutes of their own music and then they were joined by Nik Turner and played some of his numbers from the Xiitoday like Thoth and Pyramid Spell. The MOOR were really excellent today, much tighter than when i saw them in Hamburg in January. The new material also sounded really good. For those not familiar with the MOOR, they play a heavy gothic space rock. The vocals are spoken words in which the singer (Hans) improvises a bit upon, sort of his own brand of poetry, making social commentary along the way. The guitars can be quite heavy (almost metallic) using wah wah and phazer at times. Kenneth lays down an excellent synth sound (very rich) providing the backdrop for the excellent rhythm section of Stefan and Ulf.. Great band who have two CD's, Every Pixie sells a Story and Flux. The set list was: Candlelight, Now, Stay, Body, Soon, Bell, Consider Death, Suck, Dream Worker, Pyramid Spell, Thoth, Watching the Grass Grow, Bucket on my Head MAN closed the show this first night, not including the hangout with the band after the show. I had never seen MAN live and neither had nearly anyone else in the audience. the last time they had played in sweden was 1973! They were playing without their keyboard player (who lives in denmark), so this limited the set they could (or would) play. The band opened up with The Right and The View and that really got things started. The thing you noticed right away is that these guys can really play and there is a great interaction between each instrument. We had Martin Ace on Bass, mickey on guitar and vocals, Deke on guitar and Terry on drums. Next up was a killer version of C'mom lasting over 20 minutes. The slide opening by Micky was great and then the guitar kicks in and everyone is moving.. Excellent jam.... The band followed with by Do it and Many are called but few Get up. These were both great as well, with cruchy guitar riffs... They closed their set with a 20 mintute version of Spunk Rock with Nik Turner sitting in on sax. This was the first time Nik had jammed with the band since 1974! Everyone was talking about how great MAN was after the set and many headed into a small tent behing the main stage to party with the band. I had Deke sign his book, Rhino's, Wino's and Lunatics. He was a very nice guy. We spoke a bit about some of the things in his book and they Carl and I called it a night. If you have not read this book, you must. It is one of the best music biographies I have ever read. 8/15 CHOUAGHAH- 20M EX* local (horrible) RYNO- 60M EX (w/Nik Turner) local MAN- 75M EX Wales PSEUDO SUN- 32M EX* Stockholm SPACIOUS MINDS- 67M EX Lov?nger DARXTAR- 30M EX Sweden HAWKXTAR- 45M EX (NIK AND DARXTAR) DARK SUN- 60M EX Finland Day two started out by Carl and I heading out to check out Jonkoping and the one record store they have there. turnsout we would find some choice CD's at this little store! Not a bad little town spread across two large lakes. This is suppose to be the swedish bible belt! As for the music, Chouaghah, a female trio of bass, guitar and drums, were really amateur and the guitar player had a really bad amp that kept feeding back all the time driving the soundman mad... Ryno played next on the main stage and were a guitar and bass duo who were joined by Nik for the entire set on sax and flute. The band played mostly cover songs by Dylan and and Neil Young but few originals as well. They were enjoyable but nothing but nothing very special. Nik sounded really great on some of the songs like I shot the Sherriff and Like a Rolling stone. The band also played Rockin' in the Free World, and All along the Watchtower. MAN were up next on the main stage and seemed a bit tired but still jammed nonetheless. The band played most of a song off 2 ounces of plastic during the soundcheck but would not do it for the audience. The bands opened the set again with The Right and the View and went into C'mom, which was 3 minutes shorter and the guitar solos not as hot as the night before. After Do it and Many are called but Few get Up, we got a great version of Bananas! This song has the great lyrics, "I like Bananas 'cause they ain't got no Bones, I like marijhuana because it gets me stoned". They followed Bananas with a short blues number.. Still a great set, but not quite as inspired as the first night. I was a bit disappointed that a band that has been playing together on and off for 30 years would not play a different set of music knowing that the audience of 40 was the same as the night before... Oh well... After MAN, we sprinted over to the side stage to check out PSEUDO SUN. This is the band that Juba formed after leaving Darxtar. They are a heavy 3 piece band of bass, guitar and drums, with Juba handeling the vocals and running the pre-recorded sequences (which you could not really hear at all except at the beginning of the set!). The band started off with a new song called Mutiny. This was a great song with a heavy bass line and a long solo by the guitar player (Bjorn Jacobson). This was followed by the excellent Signs of Life from their CD. This songs was like 15 minutes long and really spacey at times. They closed their 33 minute set with Atmosfear, another new song. The 20 or so people who watched their set were quite impressed and everyone was talking about them afterwards. A band to look out for, especially live! Next up were the SPACIOUS MIND from northern sweden. This is a band that I have been waiting to see for a long time. Their CD's are really incredible psychedelic mindfeasts...They don't play very many live gigs so this was quite special. It was dark enoough now that they could utilize the light show and smoke as well. The band started off with a killer 32 minute version of Interplanetarian Love Machine. This was just totally amazing. Thomas, one of the lead guitar players really played more psychedelic textures, while Henrik, who handled the vocals played the more intense guitar lines and some leads as well. Jens was just truely a synth keyboard organ wizard creating so many interesting and every changing organ to synth textures and sounds... This song was really incredible. The band followed that with a song off Cosmic Minds at Play CD called House in the Country. They dedicated this song to me, which really touched me. The song again was quite stretched out and moved through several transitions in which the band would come back into a heavy guitar riff. Very cool... I should mention that the bass player and the drummer were really excellent flowed exceptionally well in and out of the various psychedelic moods that the bands created. The set ended with a 22 minute version of Euphoria Euphoria ( I think it is this song?) off the new Garden of a Well Fed Head lp, in which Nik turner joined in on saxophone. He was able to squeeze the sax playing into a unique niche within the wall of sound that the band created. It worked quite well most of the time. Nik incorrectly thanked the band for the jam calling them the Spasms, a punk band that would play later in the night! That's nik for you! While Darxtar were setting up, the SPASMS played a wild and crazy set on the side stage. They were like a cross between Blue Cheer and the Dwarves. The singer was just completely mad and had most of those watching laughing quite a lot. I thought the guitar riffs were pretty cool but it was pretty much over the top.... DARXTAR, another band I have been waiting many years to see started their set with a killer spacey version of Breath Messages. The band has such a great mixture of spacey guitar sounds and synths. I really think the synth player is excellent. The bass player is really good but he does not have as heavy a sound as Juba, so the bottom end is not quite as heavy as it used to be. The band followed that with 7 from the Sju release and this was great as well. I really like the guitar solo in this song. The band closed it's 35 minute set with an excellent version of Eternal War from Daybreak. I was very impressed with them but was disappointed that they did not play any longer. The band was now joined by NIk Turner to create HAWXTAR 1998! Because we were running a bit short on time and Dark Sun were to play last and they traveled all the way from Finland, the Hawxtar set had to be trimmed down. They opened up with Sonic Attack, which was mostly spoken words as Jens (from the Spacious Mind) and the synth player worked on getting the audio generator/synth up and running.. The band next launched into a great version of you shouldn't do that. I have seen Hawkwind (90's), Nik and Pressurehed, and Sun Machine all perform this song but never has anyone done such a rendition that was so true to 1971.... Really amazing... wow... Next up was Kadu Flyer.. musically this sounded great but Nik got confused and had forgotten where the lyrics fit in and this really through the band off and so the rendition was a bit strange. Jens was creating some really amazing space sounds to augument the keyboard lines for the song and were almost too much.. A very strange version... The band moved back into Brainstorm, a song Nik could do in his sleep! Again, the band really reproduced the 1972 sound with amazing clarity! The band ended their set with a great version of Master of the Universe. I really think that Jens was incredible during this song going really over the top. Really great set of about 40 minutes. The band had planned to play for 90 minutes and do paranoia, D-Rider, You know you're only Dreaming, Children of the sun, Time we Left and Silver Machine, but there was no time, if Dark Sun were going to get to play. DARK SUN came on about 12:20 or so and started the show with a improv jam that just sort of materialized out of the soundcheck. The band opened the set with Iskariot, a new song that the band has written. The song starts slowly with some very nice space sounds and chirps and 12 string acoustic guitar. The vocalist, janne has a really excellent singing voice. I really love his vocals, combining power and finesse. The song really builds up to a climax and then spaces out again. The acoustic guitar player, Ylli, is really good and was dressed in a traditional finnish costume, which was cool.. The band also had various painted wooden symbols and cardboard figures of people up on the stage, which was an added touch. Kari, the lead guitar player was excellent, but a little too low in the mix. I really liked the way that Mikko used a lot of sampled sounds from MD and CD and then played layers of keyobard and synth over the top. The band then performed another new song called Ethics about a man who went out to space and never came back! The band then played Abduction Files from their excellent (sold out only 1500 copies) CD called Feed your Mind. This version was over 10 minutes and was one of the highlights of the bands set. This was followed by another new song called Dream Circuit in which Nik Turner joined the band. This was a very cool, song with an excellent almost funky space rock groove to it. Having Nik playing on it and not really knowing the song certainly changed the arrangement a bit. The band closed the normal set with great versions of Psychedelic Warlords and Hassan I Sahba! The band really wanted to keep playing so the soundman cut down the volume of the PA and the band played another new song called Wooden Man. Really excellent vocals on this song... The band tried to start up another song but it was already near 1:30 and the town has a sound code regulating music atter 1:00 am and we were already well after this, so the soundman killed the PA and the band played on for several minutes until janne realized that his vocal were not being heard at all and he called it quites. Ylli kept on playing the acoustic guitar and Nik kept playing as well and they did a bit of silver machine and the audience sang along and it all ended well. The party continued for several hours and everyone hung out and had a good time.... Evert Wysell must be congratulated for the effort that was put forth to make this event happen. It is quite a blow that so few people showed up and that he lost a lot of money but one can never know why there were not 100's of people. Anyway, this was an incredible weekend of music and one that I enjoyed as much as any I have ever experienced. I met many incredible people (Evert, Henrik, Jens and the Spacious Mind, Deke, Kenneth and the MOOR, Janne and Dark Sun, Andreas, Juba and Pseudo Sun, and Soren from Darxtar). I did not mind that only 20 people came, like Martin Ace from MAN said. " It's very nice to be here amongst so few beautiful people. But don't forget, you are the ones that are here and everyone else is nowhere, man!". scott heller shll at hagedorn.dk R. Scott Heller PhD Hagedorn Research Institute Niels Steensensvej 6 DK 2820 Gentofte Denmark (45) 44 43 91 96 or 44 3 91 38 Phone (45) 44 43 80 00 Fax shll at hagedorn.dk or heller at hagedorn.dk Http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/stage/7713 From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Aug 26 04:44:49 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 09:44:49 +0100 Subject: Multiverse In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Elric absorbing all incarnations of himself to create `a single > chance of redemption for the entire multiverse'????? This I had > problems with and does anyone know what `Next:The mathematics of > Smoke' means? > Is there more to come? > Is it a joke? "The Mathematics of Smoke" was the title of part one, wasn't it? So yes, I guess it is a joke, but it's about circularity or something... The part I had trouble with was Pop and Rupoldo escaping from the buckyball by turning the universe inside out... very silly! I was also unsure about Moonglum's sudden appearance, which would be simply puzzling to the non-aficionado. But I liked matching up the identities of the characters in the different stories, lots of the dialogue, and Simonson's excellent artwork. The double-page of Elric absorbing the Champion (with Balance) was great! - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 26 05:50:43 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:50:43 +0100 Subject: HW: The Truth/ In-Reply-To: sprawl's message of Wed, 26 Aug 1998 01:05:40 -0400 Message-ID: sprawl writes: > The Automind wrote: > > > > Now THAT's something that doesn't happen every day. Laugh all you want! > > I wouldn't laugh, I was the drunken whistling idiot! I saw him too! > That's why I left! He wanted my drink! > Just kidding. He was really after my tabs. I think I was behind the > drunken whistler. Was he a short guy with glasses and a baseball cap? HIM???? He works for Bill Clinton. He has your FBI file. > rj FoFP From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Aug 26 06:36:02 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:36:02 +0100 Subject: OFF: Cozy Powell Message-ID: The following was in today's (London) _Times_ - may be of morbid interest: --- Rock star's girlfriend heard crash on phone BY SIMON DE BRUXELLES COZY POWELL, the rock drummer, died when he crashed his car while talking to his girlfriend on a hand-held mobile telephone, an inquest was told yesterday. The 50-year-old musician, real name Colin Powell, was over the drink-driving limit and was not wearing a seatbelt when he told Sharon Reeve that he was doing 104mph. The car spun out of control on a bend after a slow puncture deflated a rear tyre. The drummer, who had a solo hit with Dance With the Devil and had been a member of Black Sabbath, Whitesnake and the Michael Schenker Group, was hurled from the vehicle as it cartwheeled through the air before landing on top of him. The inquest in Bristol was told that the accident happened as Mr Powell was driving along the M4 on his way to visit Miss Reeve in Cardiff. In a statement Miss Reeve said: "He said he was having trouble with his gearbox and said, 'I'm driving at nearly 104mph and I hope the engine doesn't seize.' He broke off in mid-sentence. I heard Cozy say 'Oh, shit' and I heard a loud bang." Verdict: accidental death. --- - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Wed Aug 26 06:47:11 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 06:47:11 -0400 Subject: tBS,BOC AND SOME OFF Message-ID: > Is it worse than "Let Go"? > But I like "Let Go" :) O.K. so there is no deep meaning to the song, but its a fun song. From arjanh at CS.VU.NL Wed Aug 26 06:59:08 1998 From: arjanh at CS.VU.NL (Hulsebos A) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:59:08 +0200 Subject: HW: The Truth/ In-Reply-To: M Holmes "Re: HW: The Truth/" (Aug 26, 10:50am) Message-ID: On Aug 26, 10:50am, M Holmes wrote: >HIM???? He works for Bill Clinton. He has your FBI file. Yup, but you and I got his, right? >FoFP Arjan H From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 26 08:16:48 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:16:48 +0100 Subject: HW: The Truth/ In-Reply-To: M Holmes's message of Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:50:43 +0100 Message-ID: M Holmes writes: > sprawl writes: > > > The Automind wrote: > > > > > > Now THAT's something that doesn't happen every day. Laugh all you want! > > > > I wouldn't laugh, I was the drunken whistling idiot! I saw him too! > > That's why I left! He wanted my drink! > > Just kidding. He was really after my tabs. I think I was behind the > > drunken whistler. Was he a short guy with glasses and a baseball cap? > > HIM???? He works for Bill Clinton. He has your FBI file. It's ok - you're quite safe - they're still processing their 1975 data so you've got another 25 years or so before they catch up with you. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Wed Aug 26 08:24:17 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:24:17 -0400 Subject: HW: The Truth/ Message-ID: M Holmes wrote: > > sprawl writes: > > > The Automind wrote: > > > > > > Now THAT's something that doesn't happen every day. Laugh all you want! > > > > I wouldn't laugh, I was the drunken whistling idiot! I saw him too! > > That's why I left! He wanted my drink! > > Just kidding. He was really after my tabs. I think I was behind the > > drunken whistler. Was he a short guy with glasses and a baseball cap? > > HIM???? He works for Bill Clinton. He has your FBI file. The guy I'm thinking of was in the camp next to ours. In the wee hours of the AM he slunked into our camp and had a seat. HW was sitting around our fire, and this guy didn't realise who they were. He kept complaining about the gig and everyone just watched him with mild amusement. Things got quiet at one point, and he started hollering Hawk-wiiiiiiind at random intervals. It was hard not to laugh. Then some kid came into our camp and tried to kill himself in our campfire. Interesting night. And I don't have an FBI file. I purchased it in '89. rj > > > rj > > FoFP From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Aug 26 08:51:50 1998 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 08:51:50 -0400 Subject: tBS,BOC AND SOME OFF Message-ID: Al writes: >Sorry you don't like Donkey Show. I think it's hysterical myself and almost every time we play people call out for it (I guess that wasn't you though). If I didn't feel it was a worthy song it wouldn't have been on the album. Without meaning to bootlick too much (I never ass-kiss), I think Donkey Show is a really cool tune. It's got a cool riff and it's wacky. tBS aren't slaves to any particular style, and we should remember that tBS is not an extension of Al's BOC work. Al is no slave to Imaginos, or the "heavy metal" style. However, humor has always been an important element in much of Al's work, so in that sense, a tune like "Donkey Show" is not exactly out of character. Granted, a lot of Al's more humorous tunes were probably deemed out of character for BOC ("Cities on Flame with Disco", "She Fell in Love with Richie Blackmore's Dildo" among others). John From s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Thu Aug 27 02:27:10 1998 From: s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Patrick Cordiner) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:27:10 PDT Subject: Multiverse In-Reply-To: <000001bdd0cd$c94bc0e0$683f63c3@default> Message-ID: > "The Mathematics of Smoke" was the title of part one, wasn't it? So yes, I guess it is a joke, but it's about circularity or something... > > The part I had trouble with was Pop and Rupoldo escaping from the buckyball by turning the universe inside out... very silly! I was also unsure about Moonglum's sudden appearance, which would be simply puzzling to the non-aficionado. I personally think that anyone that hadn't done at least a couple of weeks in Moorcock background reading for the comics would have been totally lost, i.e. the first couple of letters to the editor from people who had read `Stormbringer' and nothing else, and then wondering why they were getting lost. > But I liked matching up the identities of the characters in the different > stories, lots of the dialogue, and Simonson's excellent artwork. The > double-page of Elric absorbing the Champion (with Balance) was great! > Agreed! It boggles the mind as to what Moorcock will do next. Is there any more word on a remake of the `New World's Fair' record? Q:When will a space-rock event occur Down Under? A:At the end of time. Patrick C. From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Aug 26 10:01:39 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:01:39 -0400 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles reissue In-Reply-To: <35E336B5.F5801A0B@earthlink.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Dan Witt wrote: => A friend of mine who works at a record store just told me that Live => Chronicles has just appeared as an import reissue. It is listed as a => double CD with a third bonus CD. It is priced low. => => Anybody know what the bonus CD is? A *third* CD? When did it even become *TWO* CDs?? (Mine is a single!) Cheers, Paul. obCD-R: Gov't Mule, _Dancing Across the Water_ (misc. Spring '98 covers) e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Aug 26 10:10:08 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:10:08 +0100 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles reissue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > A *third* CD? When did it even become *TWO* CDs?? (Mine is a single!) > > When Griffin released their version and reinstated the Moorcock spoken-word bits. I did notice a copy of _LC_ in Selectadisc the other day, with the original cover art but printed rather darker than usual, but I didn't pay it much attention. (It's only Live Chronicles after all :) Maybe it was this new reissue? I'll take a closer look next time I'm in the area... - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From mordru at FLITE.NET Wed Aug 26 10:08:31 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 10:08:31 -0400 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles reissue Message-ID: >On Tue, 25 Aug 1998, Dan Witt wrote: > >=> A friend of mine who works at a record store just told me that Live >=> Chronicles has just appeared as an import reissue. It is listed as a >=> double CD with a third bonus CD. It is priced low. >=> >=> Anybody know what the bonus CD is? > >A *third* CD? When did it even become *TWO* CDs?? (Mine is a single!) The Griffin release was as a double-cd, and included some stuff not on the earlier one. (Also included a Moorcock Elric booklet and lyrics and stuff). Around here, anyways, it was actually one of the more commonly available Hawkwind CD's, I was able to get extras as gifts for friends... Offhand I'm guessing they'll toss in the studio "Chronicle of the Black Blade" as the bonus.... And he took the stars in his hands and as he scattered them he'd shout: "I'm the Joker of the Universe! I'm What it's all about!" - "The Great Sun Jester" by Blue ?yster Cult (Eric Bloom, Michael Moorcock) -AAA From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Wed Aug 26 10:47:53 1998 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:47:53 +0200 Subject: HW: A Quark Night In Paris Message-ID: Hello Folks !! Received 2 days ago another CD-R with the title: "A Quark Night In Paris" CD Number: LWR CD003. August 1998 (Lone Wolf Production) This more than 70 minutes long CD contains a gig which was recorded on 23.04.1977 in Paris, Salle Pleyel. The quality is slightly better that my tape. LONE WOLF did a good job. He deleted the very disturbing background rustle The gig is absolutely idenical with the tape I have from this gig. Only one song is missing (Uncle Sam's On Mars) Here are the tracks and times: - Reefer Madness 07:26 - Hassan I Sahba 06:35 - Forge Of Vulcan 03:16 - Brainstorm 07:59 - Wind Of Change 04:41 - Steppenwolf 10:04 - Spirit Of The Age 09:21 - Damnation Alley 08:16 - Iron Dream 01:09 - Waiting For My Man 05:01 - Master Of The Universe 05:27 - Welcome 02:01 Highlights are DAMNATION ALLEY (with and unusual spoken intro to this great song) and WAITING FOR MY MAN. Hawkwind played only during February - April 1977 this song ! All in all I must say that this new CD-R is really worth to get. But it hasn't the quality (recording and gig) from ATOMHENGE 1976. It should be a very welcome addition to the collection of every hardcore HAWKWIND fan!!! Bernhard From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 26 11:42:26 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:42:26 +0100 Subject: Multiverse In-Reply-To: Patrick Cordiner's message of Wed, 26 Aug 1998 23:27:10 PDT Message-ID: Patrick Cordiner writes: > > But I liked matching up the identities of the characters in the different > > stories, lots of the dialogue, and Simonson's excellent artwork. The > > double-page of Elric absorbing the Champion (with Balance) was great! > > > > Agreed! It boggles the mind as to what Moorcock will do next. Is there any more word on a remake of the `New World's Fair' record? Did I mention that I'd seen the Avengers film recently and had the strangest feeling afterwards that I'd been watching something vaguely similar to one of Moorcock's Jerry Cornelius books. I've been mentally re-writing the cast into appropriate character roles ever since. Maybe someone should approach the director - we could start a whole new cult..... > > Q:When will a space-rock event occur Down Under? > A:At the end of time. Makes you wonder why nature waited until all the continents had thoroughly drifted apart before evolving rock musicians - touring would have been so much easier when everything was joined as a single landmass. musingly jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU Wed Aug 26 11:55:54 1998 From: lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU (dave cohen) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 11:55:54 -0400 Subject: Multiverse In-Reply-To: <199808261542.QAA18041@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> from "J Strobridge" at Aug 26, 98 04:42:26 pm Message-ID: > > Did I mention that I'd seen the Avengers film recently and had the > strangest feeling afterwards that I'd been watching something vaguely > similar to one of Moorcock's Jerry Cornelius books. I've been > mentally re-writing the cast into appropriate character roles ever since. > Maybe someone should approach the director - we could start a whole new > cult..... > > musingly > jill didn't the director of the Final Programme (jerry c. film from 73ish -- Moorcock apparently hates it with a passion and it is now out of print on video as far as i know) also direct some of the Avengers tv series?? museless, lapis From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Wed Aug 26 12:10:29 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 12:10:29 -0400 Subject: HW: The Truth/ Message-ID: J Strobridge wrote: > It's ok - you're quite safe - they're still processing their > 1975 data so you've got another 25 years or so before they catch > up with you. Good Hit, Jill! =) rj From simplius at SOFTHOME.NET Wed Aug 26 12:35:54 1998 From: simplius at SOFTHOME.NET (Goran Janicijevic) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:35:54 GMT Subject: BOC: Antichrist In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19980822154625.10cf94a8@m1.171.telia.com> Message-ID: Johan Edlundh wrote: >while browsing those pages, I found this page that might be of interest for >the BOC side of this list - www.antichrist.com/boyblue.htm >as a sideeffect, the page .../bloc.htm contains 116k of BOC lyrics. Ouch! What a .... Now I expect to find some Nazi page for their interpretation of BOC lyrics. :-( Goran Janicijevic From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 26 12:50:03 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 17:50:03 +0100 Subject: HW: A Quark Night In Paris In-Reply-To: Bernhard Pospiech's message of Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:47:53 +0200 Message-ID: Bernhard Pospiech writes: If anyone can get a copy for me (Henrik?) could they please get in touch. FoFP > Hello Folks !! > > Received 2 days ago another CD-R with the title: > "A Quark Night In Paris" > > CD Number: LWR CD003. August 1998 (Lone Wolf Production) > > This more than 70 minutes long CD contains a gig which was recorded > on 23.04.1977 in Paris, Salle Pleyel. > > The quality is slightly better that my tape. LONE WOLF did a good job. He > deleted the very disturbing background rustle > > The gig is absolutely idenical with the tape I have from this gig. Only one > song is missing (Uncle Sam's On Mars) > > Here are the tracks and times: > > - Reefer Madness 07:26 > - Hassan I Sahba 06:35 > - Forge Of Vulcan 03:16 > - Brainstorm 07:59 > - Wind Of Change 04:41 > - Steppenwolf 10:04 > - Spirit Of The Age 09:21 > - Damnation Alley 08:16 > - Iron Dream 01:09 > - Waiting For My Man 05:01 > - Master Of The Universe 05:27 > - Welcome 02:01 > > Highlights are DAMNATION ALLEY (with and unusual spoken intro to this great > song) and WAITING FOR MY MAN. Hawkwind played only during February - April > 1977 this song ! > > All in all I must say that this new CD-R is really worth to get. But it > hasn't the quality (recording and gig) from ATOMHENGE 1976. > > It should be a very welcome addition to the collection of every hardcore > HAWKWIND fan!!! > > > Bernhard > From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 26 13:24:31 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:24:31 +0100 Subject: OFF: Can anyone ID this Sundial release? Message-ID: > To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Subject: Re: OFF: Can anyone ID this Sundial release? > References: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Well I can't give you details of the single, but 3 of the tracks are from the > album > LIBERTINE [ BBQCD 138] the full track listing of which is; > - Send > - Going Down > - Watch You Smile > - Deep Inside > - Everything You See > - Dual > - Hold On > - Around and Around > - Star Baby > - Believe > > There is another album, "Acid Yantra" [BBQCD 173] which should be readily > available. My wholesaler said he could have it within 14 days, so there's stock > somewhere. > > Z > NP: Live 79 [a first - writing to BOC-L while playing an on topic album] > > Paul Mather wrote: > > > A while ago I bought a used copy of some kind of Sundial CD single/EP. > > Can anyone ID its title for me? The contents are: > > > > 1. Going Down (single mix) [3:52] > > 2. Watch You Smile (single mix) [3:25] > > 3. Jewel [4:51] > > 4. Starbaby (live) [5:42] > > > > It's on Beggars Banquet, and the catalogue number appears to be BBQ 15 CD. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Paul. > > > > obCD-R: Gov't Mule, _Dancing Across the Water_ (misc. live Spring '98 covers) > > > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > > > "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" > > --- James Marshall Hendrix > > -- > ================================================================= > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com > > Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK > > Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 > > ============================================================================ -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 26 13:25:32 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:25:32 +0100 Subject: NIK TURNER/BOB CALVERT/OFF: GOVT MULE Message-ID: > Subject: NIK TURNER/BOB CALVERT/OFF: GOVT MULE > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Well after a fallow period, todays mail brought three > delightful items. > > First, apologies to the Mule-heads on this list. My > wonderful ltd ed, 2LP, autographed, red vinyl copy of "Dose" > is absolutely superb. Well worth the wait, even if it does > mean I have to buy its predecessors with unseemly haste. > Its blasting away now in the next room. Marvellous. > Someone asked about the bonus track, "I Put A Spell On > You". Well it's done in the traditional slow blues manner, > five minutes long and with a tasty guitar solo. But nothing > special. Better than the bloody Beatles cover which the > album could have done without. A minor quibble, but I do > miss the skip button! > > The Adrian Wagner CD arrived with the Bob Calvert tracks and > another pleasant surprise. "Distances Between Us" stands on > its own two feet. Worth the money and I'm glad Bobs family > gets 10%. > > Finally, the cassette release "Judgement & Thunder - The > Greatest Hits Of Judge Trev and Nik Turner" arrived and > enlivened an unusually long journey home. Nothing > extraordinary but most of the tracks were new to me and > worth the minimal admission. > > Z > NP - GOVT MULE - Dose [of course] > -- > ================================================================= > > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at > http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com > > Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK > > Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 > > ============================================================================ -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Wed Aug 26 13:28:07 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:28:07 +0100 Subject: BOC: Antichrist In-Reply-To: <35e61e60.1573224@smtp.softhome.net> Message-ID: > Johan Edlundh wrote: > > >while browsing those pages, I found this page that might be of > interest for > >the BOC side of this list - www.antichrist.com/boyblue.htm > >as a sideeffect, the page .../bloc.htm contains 116k of BOC lyrics. > > > Ouch! What a .... > > Now I expect to find some Nazi page for their interpretation of BOC > lyrics. :-( > I checked out that page - they guy's obviously two horsemen short of an apocalypse... even if it's a joke, you'd have to be a nutter to pursue it so elaborately. Check out a relevant Mick Farren poem (verse 3) at: http://members.aol.com/Deviant4d/index5.html - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From asg at LAGUNA.COM.MX Wed Aug 26 15:20:29 1998 From: asg at LAGUNA.COM.MX (Alex S. Garcia) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 13:20:29 -0600 Subject: OFF: Music Video Website Project Message-ID: Hi folks, I'm currently working on a music video website project and I was wondering if anyone on this list could help me out. What I need, actually, is someone who'd be willing either to build a database structure for the site or to teach me how to do one myself. I currently have some 11,000+ videos listed in my personal database (a Works file, actually) and it's growing everyday. But unfortunately, I don't have much info on the BOC music videos. If anyone knows anything about them (especially if you have director credits), they'd be more than welcome. All I have for now are the videos listed in the BOC FAQ. Again, I'd appreciate any help I could get on this project ! Thanks. Alex S. Garcia. --------------------------------------------------- Become a Patternwalker ! Visit Corwin's Pattern... http://members.tripod.com/~Mandor/ Read the Icarus Encyclopedia of Fantasy & SF http://www.pelnet.com/icarus/ --------------------------------------------------- From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 26 14:22:49 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Zeitgeist) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 19:22:49 +0100 Subject: [Fwd: NIK TURNER/BOB CALVERT/OFF: GOVT MULE] Message-ID: Stuart A Hamilton wrote: > > Subject: NIK TURNER/BOB CALVERT/OFF: GOVT MULE > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > Well after a fallow period, todays mail brought three > > delightful items. > > > > First, apologies to the Mule-heads on this list. My > > wonderful ltd ed, 2LP, autographed, red vinyl copy of "Dose" > > is absolutely superb. Well worth the wait, even if it does > > mean I have to buy its predecessors with unseemly haste. > > Its blasting away now in the next room. Marvellous. > > Someone asked about the bonus track, "I Put A Spell On > > You". Well it's done in the traditional slow blues manner, > > five minutes long and with a tasty guitar solo. But nothing > > special. Better than the bloody Beatles cover which the > > album could have done without. A minor quibble, but I do > > miss the skip button! > > > > The Adrian Wagner CD arrived with the Bob Calvert tracks and > > another pleasant surprise. "Distances Between Us" stands on > > its own two feet. Worth the money and I'm glad Bobs family > > gets 10%. > > > > Finally, the cassette release "Judgement & Thunder - The > > Greatest Hits Of Judge Trev and Nik Turner" arrived and > > enlivened an unusually long journey home. Nothing > > extraordinary but most of the tracks were new to me and > > worth the minimal admission. > > > > Z > > NP - GOVT MULE - Dose [of course] > > -- > > ================================================================= > > > > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at > > http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com > > > > Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK > > > > Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 > > > > ============================================================================ > > -- > ================================================================= > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com > > Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK > > Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 > > ============================================================================ -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From adawson at CLARA.NET Wed Aug 26 14:25:10 1998 From: adawson at CLARA.NET (Andrew Dawson) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 19:25:10 +0100 Subject: HW: Ade Shaw CD offer Message-ID: Hi folks, received this from Adrian Shaw via the Woronzow mailing list. Dear Woronzow E mail listees, Sorry for the long absence, still, no news is good news, or so they tell us. There are two gigs poking their heads over the horizon. First of all is the annual Bevis Frond bash, being held at the Garage, Highbury corner, London, on Sunday, 6th of September. Secondly, following on from the memorable Queen Elizabeth Hall gig with the Frond acting as Country Joe McDonald's backing band, proving he's a sucker for punishment, he's asked us to play with him again. This time most of you will be well out of harms way, as the venue is His Majesty's Theatre, Aberdeen. However, for those of you with a Caledonian persuasion, the date of this twice in a lifetime event is Wednesday the 21st of October. PLUS! Announcing the Woronzow Records special offer of a lifetime. For those poor unfortunates with short arms and deep pockets, who have never taken the plunge and bought my solo CDs, until the end of September you can get both "Tea For The Hydra" and "Displaced Person" on a two for one offer. With guest appearances by Nick Saloman, Andy Ward, Bari Watts and Aaron Shaw, it's essential listening for all of you with a psychedelic bent. Just send 10 Pounds plus the following post and packing - 2 Pounds UK, 3 Pounds mainland Europe and 4 Pounds elsewhere, to : Adrian Shaw 102 Crescent Road New Barnet, Herts. EN4 9RJ England. Cheques, IMOs etc. made out to A. Shaw. Concealed cash in a letter is probably the easiest way to pay, we have never had a problem with this (famous last words). For those who wish to send Dollars rather than Pounds, 28 Dollars should do it. Best wishes from all of us at Woronzow Records, Adrian Shaw PS Don't forget to check out our web site on: www.thenerve2.com/woronzow/ -------------------------------------------------- Woronzow Records adeshaw at woronzow.netkonect.co.uk www.thenerve2.com/woronzow/ Andrew Dawson adawson at clara.net Into Hawkwind ? Then check out the Worldwide discography. http://home.clara.net/adawson From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Aug 26 16:53:34 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:53:34 -0400 Subject: OFF: Can anyone ID this Sundial release? In-Reply-To: <35E444CD.6C9C4372@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, Stuart A Hamilton wrote: => > Well I can't give you details of the single, but 3 of the tracks are from the => > album => > LIBERTINE [ BBQCD 138] the full track listing of which is; => > - Send => > - Going Down => > - Watch You Smile => > - Deep Inside => > - Everything You See => > - Dual => > - Hold On => > - Around and Around => > - Star Baby => > - Believe => > => > There is another album, "Acid Yantra" [BBQCD 173] which should be readily => > available. My wholesaler said he could have it within 14 days, so there's stock => > somewhere. Thanks for the info; at least this narrows things down somewhat. I already have _Acid Yantra_. Does anyone know of the availability of _Libertine_? Cheers, Paul. obCD: The Bevis Frond, _A Gathering of Fronds_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Wed Aug 26 17:11:08 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 17:11:08 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: NIK TURNER/BOB CALVERT/OFF: GOVT MULE In-Reply-To: <35E4450B.947CC265@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, Stuart A Hamilton wrote: => > First, apologies to the Mule-heads on this list. My => > wonderful ltd ed, 2LP, autographed, red vinyl copy of "Dose" => > is absolutely superb. Ahem, you forgot to mention it's a *numbered* limited edition (of 500). Not that you were trying to rub our noses in it, or anything. ;-) => > Well worth the wait, even if it does => > mean I have to buy its predecessors with unseemly haste. But, being a Hawkfan, you'll be used to that kind of wallet-draining addiction by now. (At least you only have two albums to pick up, not two hundred as with Hawkwind...;) => > [...] Better than the bloody Beatles cover which the => > album could have done without. A minor quibble, but I do => > miss the skip button! Actually, it'll probably grow on you. :-) I had the same reaction on my first listen (and I *still* think the guitar solo needs to be a bit bigger, given they slow the song down and hence give it an inevitable climactic build-up), but now it's really grown on me, and I like it. The little outro portion is known as "Tomorrow Never Knows Jam," and they usually extend and jam on it quite a bit live. Remember: Resistance is Futile --- You WILL be Ass-imilated! ;-) Cheers, Paul. obCD: The Bevis Frond, _Triptych_ e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Wed Aug 26 17:22:38 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 22:22:38 +0100 Subject: OFF: Can anyone ID this Sundial release? Message-ID: Try asking Beggars Banquet. They've been quite helpful in the past. http://www.beggars.com/ Z NP: History of the Grateful Dead Vol 1 Paul Mather wrote: > On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, Stuart A Hamilton wrote: > > => > Well I can't give you details of the single, but 3 of the tracks are from the > => > album > => > LIBERTINE [ BBQCD 138] the full track listing of which is; > => > - Send > => > - Going Down > => > - Watch You Smile > => > - Deep Inside > => > - Everything You See > => > - Dual > => > - Hold On > => > - Around and Around > => > - Star Baby > => > - Believe > => > > => > There is another album, "Acid Yantra" [BBQCD 173] which should be readily > => > available. My wholesaler said he could have it within 14 days, so there's stock > => > somewhere. > > Thanks for the info; at least this narrows things down somewhat. > > I already have _Acid Yantra_. Does anyone know of the availability of > _Libertine_? > > Cheers, > > Paul. > > obCD: The Bevis Frond, _A Gathering of Fronds_ > > e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu > > "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" > --- James Marshall Hendrix -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Wed Aug 26 18:15:01 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 18:15:01 -0400 Subject: OFF: Can anyone ID this Sundial release? Message-ID: I have it on CD and I believe I still have it on vinyl. I don't know if it's till available on retail, but I don't suppose I really NEED the vinyl. rj Paul Mather wrote: > > Thanks for the info; at least this narrows things down somewhat. > > I already have _Acid Yantra_. Does anyone know of the availability of > _Libertine_? > > Cheers, > > Paul. From flossbac at WCIC.CIOE.COM Wed Aug 26 18:38:10 1998 From: flossbac at WCIC.CIOE.COM (John Majka) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 17:38:10 -0500 Subject: HW: The Truth/The Automind Message-ID: The Automind wrote: >drunken idiot kept up this shrill, ear-piercing whistle behind me for >nearly a half hour, making me really uncomfortable and paranoid. I kept >looking behind me trying to think of a way to make him quiet down >without provoking a fight. Shock of paranoia! I thought the whole crowd >was backing him up and ready to tear me to pieces if I shifted my >position or changed the expression on my face. He almost fell on top of >me once or twice, and I was a micro-locust's hair away from making a mad >dash out of there wildly spraying Mace in front of me (That certainly >would have ruined the festivities!). Wow, I know this fuckhead ruined things for a lot of people. I think you were the fellow who was sitting right up front, right? I was standing directly behind you (we talked a little bit) and unfortunately I was standing right next to the idiot you're talking about! He kept shrilly whistling so loud, I was holding my hand over my right ear and other people were shouting, "Hey, shut the fuck up!" and similar stuff, but to no avail. He just kept on and on and on.... explaining, "This is the only way to get a show going!", which should help explain the moronicly underdeveloped state of thinking that such a person has! You know, a very similar incident happened to me at Hawkwind 1995 at the Park West in Chicago....I bet it was the same fucker... At that time, he said to me, "You don't look like you're having enough fun" and made vague insinuations that he was going to rough me up or something. Once HW started playing, he kept yelling at the top of his lungs "Doremi Fasol Latido!" really loudly for like fifteen minutes straight, so irritatingly that even Ron Tree noticed and, to shut him up, started singing those same words during an improv bit (check the tape--it's true!). He told me at SD98 that he had been in prison for a few years (big surprise). I hope that if the same thing happens at the next HW even, someone will slug him in the face before it gets too out of hand. I hope not too many people were put out by his behavior.... John Majka flossbac at wcic.cioe.com PS: Did Chuck Johnson make it to SD98? I looked but didn't find him, or any other list members in fact...but that may just be my special problem! From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 26 19:12:23 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 00:12:23 +0100 Subject: OFF: Can anyone ID this Sundial release? In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Wed, 26 Aug 1998 16:53:34 -0400 Message-ID: Paul Mather writes: > On Wed, 26 Aug 1998, Stuart A Hamilton wrote: > > => > Well I can't give you details of the single, but 3 of the tracks are from the > => > album > => > LIBERTINE [ BBQCD 138] the full track listing of which is; > => > - Send > => > - Going Down > => > - Watch You Smile > => > - Deep Inside > => > - Everything You See > => > - Dual > => > - Hold On > => > - Around and Around > => > - Star Baby > => > - Believe > => > > => > There is another album, "Acid Yantra" [BBQCD 173] which should be readily > => > available. My wholesaler said he could have it within 14 days, so there's stock > => > somewhere. > > Thanks for the info; at least this narrows things down somewhat. > > I already have _Acid Yantra_. Does anyone know of the availability of > _Libertine_? Dunno if it helps but C&D records and Freak Emporium had the following records listed in their last catalogues: Acid Yantra / Libertine / Other Way Out / Return Journey each CD 13.99 Bad Drug-Fairground (CD Maxi) 4.99 Fazer EP (CD Maxi) CD 8.99 Live Drug CD 11.99 Reflector CD 15.99 these prices are C&D Records with descriptions of 'Live' being a particularly mind-expanding set while 'Reflector' and 'Libertine' are full of great guitar work and 'Return' sounds like early 70s Hawkwind without the synths and more guitar. Freak Emporium describe 'Bad Drug' (CD EP) as a single with a non LP side; 'Live Drug' as their first ever album with stuff from all their albums recorded in psychedelic glory; 'Other Way Out' (US version) has tracks that do not appear elsewhere; and they share a 7" with Drug Emporium tracks: "Ghost Machine"/"Time Traveller" I admit I've never heard any of the above so can't judge! cheers jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 26 19:16:33 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 00:16:33 +0100 Subject: HW: Ade Shaw CD offer In-Reply-To: Andrew Dawson's message of Wed, 26 Aug 1998 19:25:10 +0100 Message-ID: Andrew Dawson writes: > Hi folks, > received this from Adrian Shaw via the Woronzow mailing list. > > will be well out of harms way, as the venue is His Majesty's Theatre, > Aberdeen. However, for those of you with a Caledonian persuasion, the date > of this twice in a lifetime event is Wednesday the 21st of October. natch. Wish it could have been a weekend 8-( There's just no way to get to Aberdeen and back in time for work next morning. Sigh! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 27 05:26:02 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:26:02 +0100 Subject: OFF: Eastern Winds Message-ID: I hope everyone on the eastern seaboard around Carolina is safe and well from the weather. Did the hurricane come ashore? take care jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 27 06:49:37 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:49:37 +0100 Subject: HW: The Truth/The Automind In-Reply-To: John Majka's message of Wed, 26 Aug 1998 17:38:10 -0500 Message-ID: John Majka writes: > Wow, I know this fuckhead ruined things for a lot of people. I think you > were the fellow who was sitting right up front, right? I was standing > directly behind you (we talked a little bit) and unfortunately I was > standing right next to the idiot you're talking about! He kept shrilly > whistling so loud, I was holding my hand over my right ear and other people > were shouting, "Hey, shut the fuck up!" and similar stuff, but to no avail. > He just kept on and on and on.... explaining, "This is the only way to get a > show going!", which should help explain the moronicly underdeveloped state > of thinking that such a person has! You know, a very similar incident > happened to me at Hawkwind 1995 at the Park West in Chicago....I bet it was > the same fucker... At that time, he said to me, "You don't look like you're > having enough fun" and made vague insinuations that he was going to rough me > up or something. Once HW started playing, he kept yelling at the top of his > lungs "Doremi Fasol Latido!" really loudly for like fifteen minutes > straight, so irritatingly that even Ron Tree noticed and, to shut him up, > started singing those same words during an improv bit (check the tape--it's > true!). Wow! This explains the last track on the Nova Drive bootleg CD. FoFP From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Thu Aug 27 07:02:28 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:02:28 +0100 Subject: WAY WAY OFF: MOLLY HATCHET Message-ID: Some people on this list hold Hatchet in regard, so; Danny Joe Brown is out of hospital after his stroke and expected to make a full recovery, and the new Hatchet are heading for Europe. Dates are; Get ready to rock Europeans!!!! MH is coming !!! 15. Okt Hannover 16. Okt Osnabr?ck 17. Okt Freiburg 19. Okt G?ttingen 20. Okt Dortmund 22. Okt K?ln 23. Okt Amsterdam 24. Okt Hellendoorn, NL 26. Okt Ulm 27. Okt M?nchen 28. Okt Stuttgart 29. Okt Aschaffenburg 30. Okt Prattein (?)Czech Rep. 31. Okt Lichtenfels 02. Nov N?rnberg 03. Nov Wien 04. Nov Regensburg 05. Nov Saarbr?cken 06. Nov Erndtebruck (?) 07. Nov Worms 09. Nov Hamburg 10. Nov Bremen And if anyone is in the Jacksonville area, they're playing a free Labor Day show. None of which are any use to me whatsoever. Z NP - still Govt Mule -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Aug 27 07:28:11 1998 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andy Gilham) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:28:11 +0100 Subject: WAY WAY OFF: MOLLY HATCHET In-Reply-To: <35E53CC2.429530B7@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: Isn't it amazing how this sort of stuff is still big in Germany? :) - Andy mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham > -----Original Message----- > From: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List [mailto:BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU]On > Behalf Of Stuart A Hamilton > Sent: 27 August 1998 12:02 > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: WAY WAY OFF: MOLLY HATCHET > > > Some people on this list hold Hatchet in regard, so; > > Danny Joe Brown is out of hospital after his stroke and > expected to make a full recovery, and the new Hatchet are > heading for Europe. Dates are; > > Get ready to rock Europeans!!!! > MH is coming !!! > 15. Okt Hannover > 16. Okt Osnabr?ck > 17. Okt Freiburg > 19. Okt G?ttingen > 20. Okt Dortmund > 22. Okt K?ln > 23. Okt Amsterdam > 24. Okt Hellendoorn, NL > 26. Okt Ulm > 27. Okt M?nchen > 28. Okt Stuttgart > 29. Okt Aschaffenburg > 30. Okt Prattein (?)Czech Rep. > 31. Okt Lichtenfels > 02. Nov N?rnberg > 03. Nov Wien > 04. Nov Regensburg > 05. Nov Saarbr?cken > 06. Nov Erndtebruck (?) > 07. Nov Worms > 09. Nov Hamburg > 10. Nov Bremen > > And if anyone is in the Jacksonville area, they're playing a > free Labor Day show. > > None of which are any use to me whatsoever. > > Z > NP - still Govt Mule > > -- > ================================================================= > > ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at > http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com > > Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK > > Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 > > ================================================================== > ========== > From arjanh at CS.VU.NL Thu Aug 27 07:32:42 1998 From: arjanh at CS.VU.NL (Hulsebos A) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:32:42 +0200 Subject: WAY WAY OFF: MOLLY HATCHET In-Reply-To: Andy Gilham "Re: WAY WAY OFF: MOLLY HATCHET" (Aug 27, 12:28pm) Message-ID: On Aug 27, 12:28pm, Andy Gilham wrote: >Isn't it amazing how this sort of stuff is still big in Germany? :) Hard rock & heavy metal always were big in Germany. Don't ask me why.... Arjan H From shll at HAGEDORN.DK Thu Aug 27 07:53:43 1998 From: shll at HAGEDORN.DK (Scott Heller) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:53:43 +0200 Subject: HW: Bruces Message-ID: Hej, I am just curious if anyone spoke with Chris and Mary Bruce at Strange Daze and if anyone has nay idea what they are up to and where they live now.. If you know please send me an email.. scott ObCD- Psuedo SUn- Future Memories R. Scott Heller PhD Hagedorn Research Institute Niels Steensensvej 6 DK 2820 Gentofte Denmark (45) 44 43 91 96 or 44 3 91 38 Phone (45) 44 43 80 00 Fax shll at hagedorn.dk or heller at hagedorn.dk Http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/stage/7713 From hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET Thu Aug 27 08:13:52 1998 From: hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 07:13:52 -0500 Subject: HW: Re The Truth Message-ID: > I hope that if the same thing happens at the next HW even, > someone will slug him in the face before it gets too out of hand. I hope > not too many people were put out by his behavior.... It's amazing how many people observed this guy. I noticed him stumbling around in this weird stance, after the first few songs. Shortly after that I saw a guy hauling him off at a fast pace with a firm grip on his arm. From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Thu Aug 27 09:44:01 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:44:01 -0400 Subject: HW: Re The Truth Message-ID: Dan Witt wrote: > > > I hope that if the same thing happens at the next HW even, > > someone will slug him in the face before it gets too out of hand. I hope > > not too many people were put out by his behavior.... > > It's amazing how many people observed this guy. I noticed him stumbling > around in this weird stance, after the first few songs. Shortly after > that I saw a guy hauling him off at a fast pace with a firm grip on his > arm. That's why they call it "making a spectacle of one's self," or "making a scene...." =) rj From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Thu Aug 27 09:57:35 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:57:35 -0400 Subject: OFF: Eastern Winds Message-ID: J Strobridge wrote: > > I hope everyone on the eastern seaboard around Carolina is safe > and well from the weather. Did the hurricane come ashore? I don't live near the place, but saw it on the news. It didn't really make it inland. There was a higher consentration in a smaller area. The thing parked over eastern N. Carolina. It is now at the weakest it can be and still be labelled a hurricane. 70 mph winds. The worst of it is done. But Danielle is jealous. Haven't heard any reports of deaths. =) (knocking on wood) rj > > take care > jill > > =========================================================================== > J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk > ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Thu Aug 27 10:25:35 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:25:35 -0400 Subject: ATTN:Scott Heller (private E didn't work) sorry! Message-ID: Scott Heller wrote: > > Hej, > > I am just curious if anyone spoke with Chris and Mary Bruce at > Strange Daze and if anyone has nay idea what they are up to and where they > live now.. If you know please send me an email.. > > scott > > ObCD- Psuedo SUn- Future Memories > > R. Scott Heller PhD > Hagedorn Research Institute > Niels Steensensvej 6 > DK 2820 Gentofte Denmark > (45) 44 43 91 96 or 44 3 91 38 Phone > (45) 44 43 80 00 Fax > shll at hagedorn.dk or heller at hagedorn.dk > Http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/stage/7713 Scott, Spent quite a bit of time with them at the festival. Healthwise ok. Sort of a bad situation. Living with a family with many kids. They pretty much get abused there. (The Bruces, not the kids.) Cris had an important, if not THE important, court appearance scheduled for the day after he was to return home. I believe this one was to be the one thru which he would learn the final outcome of his recent legal problems. (Do you know about that? It was mentioned on the list previously.) My wife has their number somewhere, but she's not home. I will try to send it to you later on. Rj From MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Aug 27 10:15:25 1998 From: MLee at ESPARTO.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark P Lee) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:15:25 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 26 Aug 1998 to 27 Aug 1998 In-Reply-To: <199808270900.FAA08591@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Hey peeps, As mentioned previously, Alan Daveys Bedouin will be playing The Victoria Public House, Derby on Friday 18th September. Tickets are ?5 advance or ?6 on the door, doors are 7.30. Bedoiun as you probably all know are Alan and 2 other ex Hawks members ?? (Stupid me doesn't know who tho). The Victoria is approx 100 yards from Derbys train station, and about 10 minutes walk from the bus station. If anyone wants full directions etc drop me a line... And now for the brag, support band for the evening will be Dr Hasbeen, Martin, Bones, Daz and ME ???? Cheers, Mark. NP- Captured Rotation HAND, Mark. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Work mark at esparto.demon.co.uk Private mark.lee at dial.pipex.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Thu Aug 27 10:58:22 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:58:22 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Thoughts about the new album Message-ID: Some thoughts about the double album: The upcoming double album seems like a slight change in direction for the Surgeons- with more input from Peter and Billy. I wonder if the album artwork will reflect this shift? Will we see another Steve Brodner cover? (Trep is my favorite so far) Or will they use stock photography? Will the liner be sparse, or will there be extensive liner notes and lyrics? And of course, what will the title be? (Remember, it starts, or did start, with "P".) Since, I assume, the songs Peter wrote for this album weren't leftovers from his solo album, how many will he sing? Will Billy sing any of the songs he wrote? Is having more than one or two vocalists detrimental to a band's sound (BOC or the Eagles as past examples)? Has anyone (or everyone) noticed that each album plays longer than the last? BoH had a few guest musicians/singers. Do you think this trend will continue? Who might return from previous albums? Will this album be the Surgeons' "Pet Sounds" or "Sgt. Pepper's"? Or would that album have to be an extension of the Imaginos storyline? Who's Snowy, and will he be part of the production/engineering of the new album? I loved the way Needle Gun and Hassan sounded up-front and "filled-out". Finally, will the album be immediately released on Ripe and Ready, eventually released on R&R (like BoH and M*), or distributed by someone else? Brian 5 at work> Brain Surgeons "BoH" BOC "Secret Treaties" The Bevis Frond "North Circular" The Who "Who's Better, Who's Best" Ramones "All the Stuff (And More) Vol. 1 From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 27 11:03:56 1998 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:03:56 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 26 Aug 1998 to 27 Aug 1998 In-Reply-To: Mark P Lee's message of Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:15:25 +0100 Message-ID: Mark P Lee writes: > Hey peeps, > > As mentioned previously, Alan Daveys Bedouin will be playing > The Victoria Public House, Derby on Friday 18th September. mmmm - interesting. > And now for the brag, support band for the evening will > be Dr Hasbeen, Martin, Bones, Daz and ME ???? I note C&D Records have the Dr Hasbeen album in the catalogue. I guess other CDs will be available at the venue? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Work mark at esparto.demon.co.uk sorry - I *have* to ask this.... It's been nagging at me every time I read your sig file but feel free to ignore me since this is wildly off topic and I'm just curious - but is the "esparto" related to esparto grass? My Dad used to import the stuff for paper making years ago, before wood pulp took over and I haven't ever seen the word used at all since then. Is there another use for esparto? > Private mark.lee at dial.pipex.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Aug 27 09:12:19 1998 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:12:19 +0100 Subject: WAY WAY OFF: MOLLY HATCHET In-Reply-To: <9808271332.ZM20341@cs.vu.nl> Message-ID: In article <9808271332.ZM20341 at cs.vu.nl>, Hulsebos A writes > > >>Isn't it amazing how this sort of stuff is still big in Germany? :) > >Hard rock & heavy metal always were big in Germany. Don't ask me why.... > >Arjan H Julian Cope says in his Krautrocksampler book, it takes the Germans a little longer to catch on to any musical trends but once they do they don't let them go. BTW His book is entirely complimentary and this is in no way a critism. -- Jon From s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Fri Aug 28 04:46:43 1998 From: s328171 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Patrick Cordiner) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 01:46:43 PDT Subject: Anubian Lights Message-ID: Just surfed over to Paul Fox's Pressurehed site who said the new Anubian Lights album is finished! Does anyone know if Nik is involved and where I can get my grubby hands on a copy? -Patrick From abrevard at SHL.COM Thu Aug 27 11:57:06 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:57:06 -0700 Subject: OFF: Al is great, now give us some of that cake! Message-ID: Al>Just come up with ANOTHER 3/4 mil and I'll give you two that'll blow Imaginos away! BoH was made for $1200. What I don't get is people who think you can just crank out Imaginos after Imaginos. Look I spent a fortune of my own money and a boatload of Columbia's on Imaginos and it was a BOMB!! Would disagree that it was a bomb, the world just wasn't ready for it. Wow thats a ton of money to be out of pocket. It also shows what kind of a person your are, many would have quit the biz altogether yet you continue to rock on. We fans should be more appreciative of stuff like this. Al>Nobody bought it. Just ask Eric Bloom, it proves I'm out of it. {Tick Voice On} "I don't think so" Theo>As I said to somebody else, I can listen to Howard make shit jokes all morning for free. Maybe I'm just a repressed old fuck who doesn't get the current direction of music. Well you can add many ingredients to your rock and roll, but few are better than just plain old fun dude...Donkey Show rules! >I guess from what Al was saying, there's no plans to spiff it up with remastering, extra tracks, etc. Money aside, today might be the day to do it. There is a scarcity of thought provoking rock out there. Just do it with Paul O'Neil and Jon Oliva of Savatage fame, they can add that big production feel thats missing in the original. Instead of a guitar orchestra use a real one. Al I beg ya, on the new tBS do a cover, but not just any cover. Heard one today that tBS would eat alive, "Cut the Cake" by the Average White Band. It would rewl and imagine Jason froogin' to this. Hell man if you have a few hours I got a million suggestions hehehehehehehe Ghost in the Ruins From mordru at FLITE.NET Thu Aug 27 12:13:50 1998 From: mordru at FLITE.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:13:50 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Thoughts about the new album Message-ID: >Some thoughts about the double album: > >The upcoming double album seems like a slight change in direction for >the Surgeons- with more input from Peter and Billy. I wonder if the >album artwork will reflect this shift? Will we see another Steve >Brodner cover? (Trep is my favorite so far) Or will they use stock >photography? Will the liner be sparse, or will there be extensive liner >notes and lyrics? And of course, what will the title be? (Remember, it >starts, or did start, with "P".) As for liner notes..... I don't mind the URL pointing to a place to get lyrics instead of printing them, as a cost saving move..... though I would like it if said site had something you could print out (say, on .pdf that would be usable on any system) as liner notes.... Besides, with a double case (unless it's one of those slimline things (mine always break within 1 week, don't care, I toss out all my jewel cases anyways) you can cram a lot of stuff in there... (I'm pretty sure you could find plenty of people around here willing to whip something up....) My latest prediction for the album title: "Premedication" And he took the stars in his hands and as he scattered them he'd shout: "I'm the Joker of the Universe! I'm What it's all about!" - "The Great Sun Jester" by Blue ?yster Cult (Eric Bloom, Michael Moorcock) -AAA From sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK Thu Aug 27 10:43:45 1998 From: sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK (Si Halley) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:43:45 +0100 Subject: WAY WAY OFF: MOLLY HATCHET Message-ID: Subject: WAY WAY OFF: MOLLY HATCHET >and the new Hatchet are >heading for Europe. Dates are; Surprise surprise, still not playing the UK. Last time was `78 I believe!! on`t they like us or something! No, can`t be that, none of the last line-up to play here are still in band are they? Si ----- "I`ve got 'some' answers to 'most' of your questions!" The Alice Cooper Trivia File - http://village.vossnet.co.uk/s/sihalley/intro.html My Tubes Page - http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/7998/ From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Aug 26 17:17:11 1998 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 22:17:11 +0100 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles reissue In-Reply-To: <000201bdd0fb$3b8b5e40$683f63c3@default> Message-ID: In article <000201bdd0fb$3b8b5e40$683f63c3 at default>, Andy Gilham writes >I did notice a copy of _LC_ in Selectadisc the other day, with the original >cover art but printed rather darker than usual, but I didn't pay it much >attention. (It's only Live Chronicles after all :) Maybe it was this new >reissue? I'll take a closer look next time I'm in the area... > Maybe the 3rd is some video CD of the already-released video? Mark From antisol at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Aug 27 16:02:39 1998 From: antisol at HOTMAIL.COM (The Automind) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:02:39 PDT Subject: HW: The Truth/The Automind Message-ID: >Wow, I know this fuckhead ruined things for a lot of people. I think >you were the fellow who was sitting right up front, right? I was >standing directly behind you (we talked a little bit) and >unfortunately I was standing right next to the idiot you're talking >about! He kept shrilly >whistling so loud, I was holding my hand over my right ear and other >people Yeah, that was me sitting up there. I vaguely remember some of the people I was talking to. Are you the guy from Warren? It's too bad I was tripping so heavily, otherwise I would have helped anyone try to talk him into sitting down somewhere. He sort of looked like he wanted a fight, didn't he? >were shouting, "Hey, shut the fuck up!" and similar stuff, but to no >avail. oh god! I was so paranoid I thought I was the only one there who noticed him. >He just kept on and on and on.... explaining, "This is the only way >to get a show going!", which should help explain the moronicly >underdeveloped state of thinking that such a person has! I didn't even think he could speak! >You know, a very similar incident >happened to me at Hawkwind 1995 at the Park West in Chicago....I bet >it was the same fucker... At that time, he said to me, "You don't >look like you're having enough fun" and made vague insinuations that >he was going to rough me up or something. Once HW started playing, >he kept yelling at the top of his lungs "Doremi Fasol Latido!" really >loudly for like fifteen minutes straight, so irritatingly that even >Ron Tree noticed and, to shut him up, started singing those same >words during an improv bit (check the tape--it's >true!). He told me at SD98 that he had been in prison for a few >years (big surprise). I hope that if the same thing happens at the >next HW even, someone will slug him in the face before it gets too >out of hand. I hope not too many people were put out by his >behavior.... Wow! So there's this drunken oraungutan who just sort of turns up at Hawkwind shows... no, it's too weird! Why would anyone like him even listen to Hawkwind? Why can't he bother people at Van Halen concerts or something? I bet he drives a 1986 Camaro with a busted right headlight. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From antisol at HOTMAIL.COM Thu Aug 27 16:12:18 1998 From: antisol at HOTMAIL.COM (The Automind) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:12:18 PDT Subject: OFF: Eastern Winds Message-ID: >I hope everyone on the eastern seaboard around Carolina is safe >and well from the weather. Did the hurricane come ashore? I was down in NC visiting my family about a day before it hit. Right now it's moving slowly North, and doesn't show any signs of easing up. It has come ashore and is causing damage across North Carolina, but I don't think anyone has been killed. Thanks for showing your concern. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Thu Aug 27 20:06:17 1998 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:06:17 EDT Subject: HW: Lithium X-Mas? Message-ID: Hi, folks. Remember Lithium X-Mas? I think they were the band that did the cover of "Magnu" which someone contributed to the HW Covers All Tape Series. Last weekend I picked up three used copies of their "Helldorado" CD ('93). Listening to it now, it sounds pretty good. Pretty modern sound, grungey, Sundial/Monster Magnet/Sky Cries Maryish groove, at times very metalish/heavy/distorted. Plus a cover of Alice Cooper's "Second Coming" (which, btw, I wouldn't have recognized if it hadn't been for a recent tape that I got through the BOC-L Tape Swap!). Anyway, I'm pretty sure I'm going to keep a copy for myself, but the other two I'm ready too sell or trade for, so e-mail me if interested. Chuck From des at SUPERLINK.NET Fri Aug 28 00:18:29 1998 From: des at SUPERLINK.NET (E F) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 00:18:29 -0400 Subject: BOC:Corrupting the youth Message-ID: I went to see BOC last night at the Tradewinds in Sea Bright, NJ. I'll leave out the details as I have never been one to bother about what songs got played and when and all that. Let's just say it was genuinely a really good show. The audience was into it and the band was into. On a cool note Jon Rogers came out and played Harvest Moon (I think) with them. It's pretty obvious that he and Buck still have a good relationship. I brought two friends with me though: a girl who used to work for me and her boyfriend. They are in their early 20s and though she is familiar with BOC from me her boyfriend is not. Well they are now converted. She loved it! Matter of fact she called me up today to tell me that she went out this morning and picked up ETL and AOF. Her boyfriend was also impressed. To quote him (this was after the 3rd song), "Wow, I can't beleive a bunch of guys who look like my dad's bowling team can rock the place like this!" Guess that says it all. These are the sixth people who are not very familiar with BOC that I have taken to a show over the years and the reaction is always the same. So perhaps the key to the bands re-birth lay in bringing new people, younger people to their shows and not just getting them to hear a song or two over the radio or as presented to them by we the already converted via a tape or a quick "check this song out." Also, I doubt anyone from this list would be low-brow enough to do this, but just in case, quit screaming out non-stop for which songs YOU want to hear. It's really annoying and pathetic. Besides the band has already decided long ago what they're going to play and no braying from you is going to change that. Finally, I took some pictures at the show and put them in my web-space. If anyone cares, here's the links to them, you'll have to browse to them individually as I don't have a web page just some space I put things in (a web closet??). www.superlink.net/~des/boc_98.jpg www.superlink.net/~des/4guitars.jpg www.superlink.net/~des/eric_key.jpg www.superlink.net/~des/eric&buc.jpg www.superlink.net/~des/buck&jon.jpg www.superlink.net/~des/bja.jpg www.superlink.net/~des/converts.jpg OK, last thing. On a sad note: Ricky Browning has passed away (did anyone else know this or does anyone know exactly when?) Buck dedicated 'Reaper' to him and gave a nice little tribute. Well, that's enough rambling for one night. Back to the bushes. Happy converting. --Eric From arjanh at CS.VU.NL Fri Aug 28 05:36:30 1998 From: arjanh at CS.VU.NL (Hulsebos A) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 11:36:30 +0200 Subject: Just a test, junk it. In-Reply-To: Andy Gilham "Re: BOC: Antichrist" (Aug 26, 6:28pm) Message-ID: I had no mail from boc-l this morning. Unless the rest of the world has perished, that's quite inconceivable, isn't it? Cheers, Arjan H From henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Fri Aug 28 10:15:28 1998 From: henrik at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 16:15:28 +0200 Subject: HW: A quark night in Paris. Message-ID: Greetings! There?s a few copies left of the "...quark..." CD and the price is 125 skr / ? 10 / $ 15 including p&p. If you want a copy please send an e-mail to henrik at sundsvall.mail.telia.com enjoy the weekend Henrik -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Z NP-Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds Of Fire -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Fri Aug 28 13:35:15 1998 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 19:35:15 +0200 Subject: OFF: test Message-ID: test. please ignore ! From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Fri Aug 28 14:24:36 1998 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:24:36 EDT Subject: HW: The Truth/ Message-ID: In a message dated 98-08-26 07:00:04 EDT, you write: << On Aug 26, 10:50am, M Holmes wrote: >HIM???? He works for Bill Clinton. He has your FBI file. Yup, but you and I got his, right? >FoFP Arjan H >> no,,,,but i have his tie bl From hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET Fri Aug 28 21:37:26 1998 From: hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1998 20:37:26 -0500 Subject: HW Strange Daze Pix Message-ID: I finally got around to getting some pictures of Strange Daze up on my site. Please let me know if you spot any errors or can identify the pictures I could not. The address: http://home.earthlink.net/~hawkwind1/sdpix.htm From des at SUPERLINK.NET Sat Aug 29 00:43:19 1998 From: des at SUPERLINK.NET (E F) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 00:43:19 -0400 Subject: TEST Message-ID: Mail server's been acting up, this is a test. -- Words to live by from my cat: -If I had two dead mice, I'd give you one. From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sat Aug 29 09:48:33 1998 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 09:48:33 EDT Subject: HW: SD98 & SD97 pics Message-ID: hello, i've finally got around to putting more pics up from SD97.... and more from SD98... http://members.aol.com/Hawkwinder/picindex.html if any1 has any problems seeing stuff on my websites please contact me bob From als24 at CAM.AC.UK Sat Aug 29 09:57:26 1998 From: als24 at CAM.AC.UK (A.L. Shefl) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 14:57:26 +0100 Subject: HW: Elf & Hawk disc In-Reply-To: <802922.3113389831@mac001.joh.cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: What light can you people shed on this before I return to that most dangerous pursuit of purchase contemplation? As it's bowing in at Henrik's site, its availability should be improved beyond the realm of the hypothetical. It's not fair to ask for comparisons to Alan Davey's more recent solo-ish efforts and not reasonable to ask for list consensus, but. anna Now playing: large chunks disgorged from the aftermath of Carl's journey to the greatest spacerock festival never heard -- -----A.L.-Shefl,-Clare-Hall----------------------------- Outer space is no place for a person of breeding. Lady Violet Bonham Carter --------------------University-of-Cambridge--------------but my ideas From adawson at CLARA.NET Sat Aug 29 10:18:28 1998 From: adawson at CLARA.NET (Andrew Dawson) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 15:18:28 +0100 Subject: Off: Test Message-ID: Hello folks, Sorry for the test post but I havent received anything from the list for 2 days now. Is everything O.K or are you all on holiday?. If everything is normal can some of you please E.Mail me privately so that I can check things out my end. Normal mail is working fine. Thanks Andy Andrew Dawson adawson at clara.net Into Hawkwind ? Then check out the Worldwide discography. http://home.clara.net/adawson From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sat Aug 29 11:43:48 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 16:43:48 +0100 Subject: OFF: MOTORHEAD - The Best Of...Live Message-ID: OK, 3 in the morning. In a service station. Looking through the CDs and there's another dodgy Motorhead live album. So naturally, I bought it. But does anyone know where it comes from. From the tracklisting it's the Iron Fist tour. But the version of Ace Of Spades sounds like a studio rehearsal. To save bandwith and typing the tracklisting is at http://members.tripod.com/~zeitgeist_scot/live.html Z NP NO-MAN - Carolina Skeletons -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Sat Aug 29 15:32:27 1998 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 15:32:27 -0400 Subject: HW: CALVERT: Luck Lief, PP etc. Message-ID: Hi Folks... Is the list down, or is it just unusually quiet?? Well, a couple of weeks ago, I picked up a used CD copy of Calvert's Lucky Lief, more to work towards kompletion (I still need Hype) than because I really needed to upgrade my old LP copy. (I only think a few of the tracks work, although I think it's quite humourous in places even when the music is less than inspired.) Anyway, I just got around to listening to it last night, and silly me...I expected it to be the exact same album as I already knew for 15 years. But then I got to the spoken 'The Making? of Midgard' piece, and I wondered what the hell had happened to my disc player...'cause I knew that this echoed crap wasn't what I remembered hearing before. I pulled out my LP copy just to make sure I hadn't gone crazy. So what's the deal on that?? And then in the Phased Locked Loop, I don't ever recall hearing the automobile commercial at the end. (I forgot to check my LP on that part...perhaps I'm mistaken.) Weird. IIRC, PXR5's High Rise isn't quite the same as on the original LP, right?? How do these things happen? Are they intentional?? And what about the new (EBS?) CD re-release of PXR5...does it have the same edit of High Rise as the Virgin oop? CD or the original Charisma LP?? On the subject of misprintings...over on r.m.p., there's been a bit of a panning of the quality control of Purple Pyramid (i.e., Cleopatra's newest space/psych/kraut arm). Now I've always been wary of their stuff in general, more because of 1) the questionable nature of the recordings they were using for certain compilations (The Pink Fairies compilation comes to mind) and also 2) reports of Brian Perrera not always making good on artist royalties (I don't have any specifics, so don't quote me on that). But the discs in particular that have been showing up with problems, according to r.m.p.'ers are: Brainticket - Celestial Ocean (first track repeated and/or extra long gaps between songs) - Mine is perfectly fine...neither of these problems Brainticket - Voyage (with Adventure music) Brainticket - Adventure (with Voyage music) My copy of Voyage *is* Voyage...I don't have Adventure Ash Ra Tempel - the two-for-ones (I can't remember how they're matched up, but they include Schwingungen, Join Inn, Starring Rosi, and one other) Anyway, reports are that they're edited down a bit to fit them into the time limit (presumably 78 minutes). I don't have the original LPs, so I can't confirm, but I assume this is true. Yes - some new 2CD compilation of stuff (live?) apparently has been showing up in people's hands with two Disc 1's or Disc 2's (can't remember which, or perhaps both?) However, I'm not going to do what some have suggested, and boycott the label outright because of a few snafus (even Griffin had the infamous Pendragon/Warrior fiasco). That's because they're the only label right now that's willing to put things out in the US that haven't ever been readily available to us in the past (at least since the 70's). Of course, that might change if Griffin resurfaces (let's hope so). But anyway, I thought I should let folks here be aware that you may come across some of these problems with at least these particular releases. Presumably, returning them to the store of purchase or the label itself will result in your receiving a proper copy, but of course, that can be a bit of a pain. Oh yeah, PP also released a 2CD Nektar compilation called The Dream Nebula. It's marginally ok, but let me point out three things to think about on this one also. First, they didn't fully utilize the 'space' they had on two discs, and each are like 50 minutes rather than 70 min. That's kind of stupid. They also cut out the Part 2 section of The Dream Nebula and awkwardly merge Part 1 into It's all in the mind. This is my favourite Nektar sequence ever, and they kind of ruined it. This is really stupid, since (as I said) they've got 20 minutes of empty space, and they cut out like 2:30 or something in the middle of a fluid sequence. Why?? And three...the Remember the Future contribution is still the terrible keyboard-heavy, guitar-thin mix that was on the original Bellaphon CD release (the one that should have never seen the light of day). The band are currently working on a proper CD release of RtF, hopefully that will appear in the next 6 months or so. Well, just wanted to make sure you were all informed out there. Let's hope they get a handle on these problems and save what has started out to be a very promising label. Keith H. (FAA) ObCD: Ash Ra Tempel (Purple Pyramid) - The Best of The Private Tapes (2CD)...they did a good job on this one...140 minutes of cool spacey guitar & electronics ObBOC/HW misprint: In issue 11 of Crohinga Well, in the review of Dave Brock's ST&PD, they refer to his second solo album as 'The Agents of Fortune.' ObSelf-deprecating misprint: In the Japanese rerease of Captain Beyond's first album, the (mainry Japanese) riner notes indicate Rarry "Rhino" Rheinhart as guitarist. From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Sat Aug 29 21:03:31 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:03:31 -0400 Subject: Off: Test : it's been real slow. Message-ID: Yes indeedy. rj From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Sat Aug 29 21:05:15 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:05:15 -0400 Subject: HW: Elf & Hawk disc Message-ID: The elf stuff is cool. very similar to recent, sans the tree. Some ambient, some riffage. I like it. If I see this disc, I will buy it. rj A.L. Shefl wrote: > > What light can you people shed on this before I return to that most > dangerous pursuit of purchase contemplation? As it's bowing in at > Henrik's site, its availability should be improved beyond the realm of the > hypothetical. > It's not fair to ask for comparisons to Alan Davey's more recent > solo-ish efforts and not reasonable to ask for list consensus, but. > > anna > Now playing: large chunks disgorged from the aftermath of Carl's journey > to the greatest spacerock festival never heard > > -- > -----A.L.-Shefl,-Clare-Hall----------------------------- > Outer space is no place for a person of breeding. > Lady Violet Bonham Carter > --------------------University-of-Cambridge--------------but my ideas From flossbac at WCIC.CIOE.COM Sat Aug 29 21:11:37 1998 From: flossbac at WCIC.CIOE.COM (John Majka) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 20:11:37 -0500 Subject: HW: The Truth/The Automind Message-ID: At 01:02 PM 8/27/98 PDT, you wrote: >Wow! So there's this drunken oraungutan who just sort of turns up at >Hawkwind shows... no, it's too weird! Why would anyone like him even >listen to Hawkwind? Why can't he bother people at Van Halen concerts or >something? I bet he drives a 1986 Camaro with a busted right headlight. Yeah, exactly. White trash/hick/classic rock USA. Woo Hoo! Maybe someone should turn him on to the ROCK (capital letters necessary) bands he should be listening to. I don't think mind-expanding, adventurous stuff like Hawkwind is his cup of tea (or can of Bud, as it were). John Majka In space we trust, flossbac at wcic.cioe.com From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Sat Aug 29 21:07:46 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:07:46 -0400 Subject: HW: Lithium X-Mas? Message-ID: Whatcha lookin for, and where do ya live? rj Chuck Rosenberg wrote: > > Hi, folks. Remember Lithium X-Mas? I think they were the band that did the > cover of "Magnu" which someone contributed to the HW Covers All Tape Series. > Last weekend I picked up three used copies of their "Helldorado" CD ('93). > Listening to it now, it sounds pretty good. Pretty modern sound, grungey, > Sundial/Monster Magnet/Sky Cries Maryish groove, at times very > metalish/heavy/distorted. Plus a cover of Alice Cooper's "Second Coming" > (which, btw, I wouldn't have recognized if it hadn't been for a recent tape > that I got through the BOC-L Tape Swap!). > > Anyway, I'm pretty sure I'm going to keep a copy for myself, but the other two > I'm ready too sell or trade for, so e-mail me if interested. > > Chuck From sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM Sat Aug 29 21:18:13 1998 From: sprawl at BLACKBOARD.COM (sprawl) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:18:13 -0400 Subject: HW: The Truth/The Automind Message-ID: > Wow! So there's this drunken oraungutan who just sort of turns up at > Hawkwind shows... no, it's too weird! Why would anyone like him even > listen to Hawkwind? He listens to anything that pumps him up. I have met this moron at every show, HW or not, that I have ever been to. ;) > Why can't he bother people at Van Halen concerts or something? He Does. With 6- or 8,000 of his brothers, and a couple of sisters. And sometime, Mom. > I bet he drives a 1986 Camaro with a busted right headlight. Well, he is a likely candidate for TrailorTrash (Apologies for the stereotype, just a joke, and I didn't invent it,) isn't he? rj From cando at HIGHFIBER.COM Sat Aug 29 22:23:29 1998 From: cando at HIGHFIBER.COM (James Coburn) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 20:23:29 -0600 Subject: BOC:Corrupting the youth In-Reply-To: <35E62F95.3199@superlink.net> Message-ID: Keep up the missionary work, Eric. Too bad about Ricky Browning-maybe he was a little bit happier his last year or two thanks to Buck. James Coburn Albuquerque, NM James Coburn Albuquerque, NM From antisol at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Aug 30 00:56:02 1998 From: antisol at HOTMAIL.COM (The Automind) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 21:56:02 PDT Subject: HW: CALVERT: Luck Lief, PP etc. Message-ID: >Well, a couple of weeks ago, I picked up a used CD copy of Calvert's >Lucky Lief, more to work towards kompletion (I still need Hype) than Well...well! I just got that a week ago myself! And I need Hype too!!! >because I really needed to upgrade my old LP copy. (I only think a >few of the tracks work, although I think it's quite humourous in >places even when the music is less than inspired.) I thought it was hilarious! especially the Beach Boys parody. The lyrics were well written even for Calvert, though it's definitely not something I'd listen to regularly, but it wasn't really meant to be (I dont think at least). It's great for what it is. > >Anyway, I just got around to listening to it last night, and silly >me...I expected it to be the exact same album as I already knew for >15 years. But then I got to the spoken 'The Making? of Midgard' >piece, and I wondered what the hell had happened to my disc >player...'cause I knew that this echoed crap wasn't what I remembered >hearing before. I pulled out my LP copy just >to make sure I hadn't gone crazy. So what's the deal on that?? !!!ANTI-Rhythm!!! >And then in the Phased Locked Loop, I don't ever recall hearing the That's the only track I skip over >automobile commercial at the end. (I forgot to check my LP on that >part...perhaps I'm mistaken.) Weird. !!! FLEX-TIME !!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From antisol at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Aug 30 01:10:36 1998 From: antisol at HOTMAIL.COM (The Automind) Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1998 22:10:36 PDT Subject: HW: The Truth/The Automind Message-ID: >> Wow! So there's this drunken oraungutan who just sort of turns up at >> Hawkwind shows... no, it's too weird! Why would anyone like him even >> listen to Hawkwind? >He listens to anything that pumps him up. I have met this moron at >every show, HW or not, that I have ever been to. ;) Maybe the venue in which Hawkwind plays will spontaneously generate an autochthon out of the evaporating pools of cheap, evil-smelling beer and urine from the last night's show that indeed -was- a ROCK band. >> Why can't he bother people at Van Halen concerts or something? > >He Does. With 6- or 8,000 of his brothers, and a couple of sisters. >And sometime, Mom. > >> I bet he drives a 1986 Camaro with a busted right headlight. > >Well, he is a likely candidate for TrailorTrash (Apologies for the >stereotype, just a joke, and I didn't invent it,) isn't he? > >rj Hey! I live in a trailer!!!...no i dont ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sun Aug 30 01:36:43 1998 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 00:36:43 -0500 Subject: BOC: Antichrist Message-ID: Hi! I'm from the "Hawkwind" side of the list but I wanted to tell you how much I appreciated your post. I think that Andy Gilham is "nutters" to so easily dismiss the site. I just saw the movie "Pi" http://www.pithemovie.com/ last weekend and have been obsesssed with it ever since. The quote from the Antichrist site tied in perfectly for me: In the world of physics we have found that CHAOS (complete disorder), on the outer level of the spectrum, makes a consistent pattern. In other words, as a whole, when all is either done, tested or viewed, no matter how unorganized or sporadic something appears to be or have been, even in the most random something can possibly be, there is a distinct pattern and order of symmetry. Random is not random at all when conceived from the larger scale. Thank you again for the link. It's (the antichrist.com) a *huge* site but the more I read, the more I'm intruiged. Just wanted to let you know. I can't stand people who respond negatively to a posting without anything to back it up. *You* are on to something! :-) I posted info about the Pi movie to another mailing list I am/was on, the Course of Empire list, and was shot down as well. I'm sorry that they didn't take the time to take a look and understand! You did good and I for one appreciate it! Karen Johan Edlundh wrote: > > while searching after web sites covering the recent Armageddon movie, I > stumbeled across the www.antichrist.com site. > > while browsing those pages, I found this page that might be of interest for > the BOC side of this list - www.antichrist.com/boyblue.htm > > as a sideeffect, the page .../bloc.htm contains 116k of BOC lyrics. > > no hw references found so far, > > best -joe > > ObLine: welcome to the future, Dave. From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sun Aug 30 01:48:13 1998 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 00:48:13 -0500 Subject: BOC: Antichrist Message-ID: Oops! Kick me off the list. I meant to send that last one to Johan only but I've had a few glasses of wine. ;-) Well, since it's done . . . I *do* want to recommend the movie "Pi" http://www.pithemovie.com/ again to the rest of the list. Remember the discussions on trepanation? Don't mean to spoil the end of the movie but those discussions on this mailing list brought a new insight to what I thought was represented in the movie. I think you guys are more enlightened than the Course of Empire list and would appreciate what the movie was getting at! Karen Karen Kusic wrote: > > Hi! > > I'm from the "Hawkwind" side of the list but I wanted to tell you how > much I appreciated your post. I think that Andy Gilham is "nutters" to > so easily dismiss the site. > > I just saw the movie "Pi" http://www.pithemovie.com/ last weekend and > have been obsesssed with it ever since. The quote from the Antichrist > site tied in perfectly for me: > > In the world of physics we have found that CHAOS (complete disorder), on > the outer level of the spectrum, makes a consistent pattern. In other > words, as a whole, when all is either done, tested or viewed, no matter > how unorganized or sporadic something appears to be or have been, even > in the most random something can possibly be, there is a distinct > pattern and order of symmetry. Random is not random at all when > conceived from the larger scale. > > Thank you again for the link. It's (the antichrist.com) a *huge* site > but the more I read, the more I'm intruiged. > > Just wanted to let you know. I can't stand people who respond > negatively to a posting without anything to back it up. *You* are on to > something! :-) > > I posted info about the Pi movie to another mailing list I am/was on, > the Course of Empire list, and was shot down as well. > > I'm sorry that they didn't take the time to take a look and understand! > > You did good and I for one appreciate it! > > Karen > > Johan Edlundh wrote: > > > > while searching after web sites covering the recent Armageddon movie, I > > stumbeled across the www.antichrist.com site. > > > > while browsing those pages, I found this page that might be of interest for > > the BOC side of this list - www.antichrist.com/boyblue.htm > > > > as a sideeffect, the page .../bloc.htm contains 116k of BOC lyrics. > > > > no hw references found so far, > > > > best -joe > > > > ObLine: welcome to the future, Dave. From blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM Sun Aug 30 04:08:49 1998 From: blyoung at BIGFOOT.COM (BL Young) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 01:08:49 -0700 Subject: OFF: L Ron Hubbard "Space Jazz" Message-ID: The L. Ron thread died about 3 months ago, but I just found this crazy website that you've got to check out. http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/extra/gilstrap/crawl92.html It's a site where the guy scans an obscure or weird LP from his collection each week. The one I've given above is for L. Ron's "soundtrack" for his Battlefield Earth novel. Check it out! There's even soundbytes (in aiff format) to hear this "space jazz". Did anybody ever hear anything of the Mission Earth "soundtrack" that was supposedly done by Johnny Winter? Later, Bryan -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Bryan Young CANADA blyoung AT bigfoot DOT com ----------------------------------------------------------- http://www.geocities.com/Area51/7118 SF Reading Club http://www.geocities.com/Area51/6568 Hawkwind http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Track/6878 IFHL-FLA ----------------------------------------------------------- "20 minutes goes by pretty fast when you're on a breakaway" From Chuckrecs at AOL.COM Sun Aug 30 04:03:24 1998 From: Chuckrecs at AOL.COM (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 04:03:24 EDT Subject: HW: Lithium X-Mas? Message-ID: In a message dated 98-08-29 21:13:09 EDT, you write: << Whatcha lookin for, and where do ya live? rj >> I live in Southern California and I'm looking mainly for Frank Zappa, Krautrock, still some Hawkstuff and Family. I know that's not very specific, but maybe it's a start. Chuck From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Aug 30 04:22:24 1998 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 16:22:24 +0800 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles reissue In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi all Here is the info I found on the RPM record site for this album. Hawkwind- Live Chronicles + 14 (2cd) / Digitally remastered reissue of the legendary space rock outfit's 1988 live album for GWR, Live Chronicles, which itself is a compilation of the highlights from their 1985 tour Chronicle of the Black Sword. This release also includes a bonus CD: a 14 track sampler of Hawkwind tracks from the forthcoming reissues of the group's Bronze~GWR eras. A combines total of 38 tracks.........$18.99 I suspect it is not the ful version previously released by Griffin? William From adawson at CLARA.NET Sun Aug 30 05:50:52 1998 From: adawson at CLARA.NET (Andrew Dawson) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 10:50:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Live Chronicles reissue In-Reply-To: <000301bdd3ef$51704a80$973e3bcb@xl5> Message-ID: At 16:22 30/08/98 +0800, you wrote: >Hi all > >Here is the info I found on the RPM record site for this album. > >Hawkwind- Live Chronicles + 14 (2cd) / Digitally remastered reissue of the >legendary space rock outfit's 1988 live album for GWR, Live Chronicles, >which itself is a compilation of the highlights from their 1985 tour >Chronicle of the Black Sword. This release also includes a bonus CD: a 14 >track sampler of Hawkwind tracks from the forthcoming reissues of the >group's Bronze~GWR eras. A combines total of 38 tracks.........$18.99 > >I suspect it is not the ful version previously released by Griffin? > >William > > Hi folks O.K I have this disc now. Here's the details. It is a remaster of Live Chronicles with bonus CD Released on Castle Communications cat No CCS CD 829 Disc 1 Remaster of original Castle release CCSCD 321 Disc 2 Magnu - From Approved History CD Quark Strangeness & Charm - From Approved History CD Spirit of the Age - From Live 79 CD Who's Gonna Win the War - From Levitation CD Ghost Dance - From Approved History CD Master of the Universe - From Live Chronicles CD Choose Your Masques - From Live Chronicles CD Lost Chronicles - From The Xenon Codex CD Tides - From The Xenon Codex CD Wings - From Space Bandits CD Void of Golden Light - From Palace Springs CD Lives of Great Men - From Palace Springs CD Techno Tropic Zone Exists - From It is the Business CD Gimme Shelter - From It is the Business CD Nothing new but it is a nice compilation overall. The two CD's are picture discs of the clock face on the front cover. The sleeve notes are written by Dave Brock part of which reads "As most will know, we have worked with Michael Moorcock in the past and this collaboration became one of the highlights of Hawkwind history blending sci fi fantasy rock music and electronics. 1999 sees the beginning of a further collaboration with Michael Moorcock and Hawkwind for a project, Mike Butterworth's Ledge of Darkness" For now Andy Andrew Dawson adawson at clara.net Into Hawkwind ? Then check out the Worldwide discography. http://home.clara.net/adawson From simplius at SOFTHOME.NET Sun Aug 30 06:58:52 1998 From: simplius at SOFTHOME.NET (Goran Janicijevic) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 10:58:52 GMT Subject: tBS,BOC AND SOME OFF In-Reply-To: <91B3F4CA7220D1118BA00000F83114BD010E7294@EMSS05M03.ems.lmco.com> Message-ID: Hall, Russell J wrote: >> Is it worse than "Let Go"? >> >But I like "Let Go" :) >O.K. so there is no deep meaning to the song, but its a fun song. "Let Go' is a sort of attempt to have a band's anthem, as the Queen's "We Will Rock You". But it (fortunately?) didn't make it. Goran Janicijevic From fn62 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Sun Aug 30 06:01:03 1998 From: fn62 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Alison Hopkins) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 11:01:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Elf & Hawk disc Message-ID: > What light can you people shed on this before I return to that most >dangerous pursuit of purchase contemplation? As it's bowing in at >Henrik's site, its availability should be improved beyond the realm of the >hypothetical. > It's not fair to ask for comparisons to Alan Davey's more recent >solo-ish efforts and not reasonable to ask for list consensus, but. > >anna >Now playing: large chunks disgorged from the aftermath of Carl's journey >to the greatest spacerock festival never heard > Heavens, Anna, do you get *everywhere*???? :) :) Ali From moonglum at ECLIPSE.NET Sun Aug 30 08:17:01 1998 From: moonglum at ECLIPSE.NET (K) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 08:17:01 -0400 Subject: BOC: question about Imaginos tour Message-ID: Do any of you know if BOC ever played Imaginos in its entirety after its release in 1988? I've been asked this question and don't have an answer. If any of you could fill me in on this I'd appreciate it. K From Hawkwinder at AOL.COM Sun Aug 30 09:49:45 1998 From: Hawkwinder at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 09:49:45 EDT Subject: HW: The Truth/The Automind Message-ID: In a message dated 98-08-30 01:12:08 EDT, you write: << >> Wow! So there's this drunken oraungutan who just sort of turns up at >> Hawkwind shows... no, it's too weird! Why would anyone like him even >> listen to Hawkwind? >He listens to anything that pumps him up. I have met this moron at >every show, HW or not, that I have ever been to. ;) >>Maybe the venue in which Hawkwind plays will spontaneously generate an >> autochthon out of the evaporating pools of cheap, evil-smelling beer and >> urine from the last night's show that indeed -was- a ROCK band. evil smelling beer? urine? a can of Budweiser?....they are about the same to me >> Why can't he bother people at Van Halen concerts or something? > >He Does. With 6- or 8,000 of his brothers, and a couple of sisters. >And sometime, Mom. > >> I bet he drives a 1986 Camaro with a busted right headlight. > >Well, he is a likely candidate for TrailorTrash (Apologies for the >stereotype, just a joke, and I didn't invent it,) isn't he? > >rj Hey! I live in a trailer!!!...no i dont >> From tclark at PETRONET.NET Sun Aug 30 15:19:00 1998 From: tclark at PETRONET.NET (Tom Clark) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 14:19:00 -0500 Subject: Anubian Lights Message-ID: I just ordered one from CDNow, and it is on it's way.....according to the last e-mail I got from them.....the total with shipping is $15.98 (US)....can't wait..... Patrick Cordiner wrote: > Just surfed over to Paul Fox's Pressurehed site who said the new > Anubian Lights album is finished! > Does anyone know if Nik is involved and where I can get my grubby > hands on a copy? > > -Patrick > From Nebosuke at AOL.COM Sun Aug 30 19:58:23 1998 From: Nebosuke at AOL.COM (Chris Baker) Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1998 19:58:23 EDT Subject: BOC: question about Imaginos tour Message-ID: K wrote: > Do any of you know if BOC ever played Imaginos in its entirety after its release in 1988? No, they did not. I believe they only things they ever played were "I Am the One...", "Astronomy", and "In the Presence of Another World". -Chris Baker From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Aug 31 02:50:14 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 07:50:14 +0100 Subject: BOC: ANOTHER RARITY/OFF: ANOTHER MOTORHEAD RARITY Message-ID: Here's another one for all the BOC completists on the list. CBH/ SPV offered a 18-track CD promo sampler for the POPKOMM 98 convention in Cologne in August last week, that included the following bands + songs: 1) Molly Hatchet - Mississippi Moon Dog 2) Night Ranger - Sign Of The Times 3) Tommy Shaw - Ocean 4) Pat Benatar - Hit Me With Your Best Shot 5) Little Feat - Home Ground 6) Van Zant - I'm A Want You Kind A Man 7) Blue Oyster Cult - Power Underneath Despair 8) Axel Rude Pell - Ride The Rainbow 9) Styx - Boat On The River 10) Fixx - Two Different Voices 11) Saga - Careful Where You Sleep 12) Angra - Wings Of Reality 13) Judas Priest - Burn In Hell 14) Mot?rhead - Snake Bite Love 15) Lynyrd Skynyrd - We Ain't Much Different 16) Creedence Clearwater Revisited - Hey Tonight 17) 38 Special - Fade To Blue 18) Roger Chapman - Riot On The Western Front Z NP KYUSS - Demon Cleaner 2 part CDS -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM Mon Aug 31 03:02:52 1998 From: novadrive at PANGEATECH.COM (Kevin Sommers) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 00:02:52 -0700 Subject: HW: The Truth/The Automind Message-ID: >John Majka writes: >> Wow, I know this fuckhead ruined things for a lot of people. I think you >> were the fellow who was sitting right up front, right? I was standing >> directly behind you (we talked a little bit) and unfortunately I was >> standing right next to the idiot you're talking about! He kept shrilly >> whistling so loud, I was holding my hand over my right ear and other people >> were shouting, "Hey, shut the fuck up!" and similar stuff, but to no avail. >> He just kept on and on and on.... explaining, "This is the only way to get a >> show going!", which should help explain the moronicly underdeveloped state >> of thinking that such a person has! You know, a very similar incident >> happened to me at Hawkwind 1995 at the Park West in Chicago....I bet it was >> the same fucker... At that time, he said to me, "You don't look like you're >> having enough fun" and made vague insinuations that he was going to rough me >> up or something. Once HW started playing, he kept yelling at the top of his >> lungs "Doremi Fasol Latido!" really loudly for like fifteen minutes >> straight, so irritatingly that even Ron Tree noticed and, to shut him up, >> started singing those same words during an improv bit (check the tape--it's >> true!). > >Wow! This explains the last track on the Nova Drive bootleg CD. > >FoFP Actually, that last track is from the Fox Theatre in Boulder, CO. Kevin Sommers primiti too taa, nnz kkr muu From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 31 06:22:08 1998 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:22:08 +0100 Subject: HW: The Truth/ In-Reply-To: Bob Lennon's message of Fri, 28 Aug 1998 14:24:36 EDT Message-ID: Bob Lennon writes: > In a message dated 98-08-26 07:00:04 EDT, you write: > > << On Aug 26, 10:50am, M Holmes wrote: > > >HIM???? He works for Bill Clinton. He has your FBI file. > > Yup, but you and I got his, right? > > >FoFP > > Arjan H >> > no,,,,but i have his tie The question is: who has his humidor? FoFP From RHamel4129 at AOL.COM Mon Aug 31 08:35:33 1998 From: RHamel4129 at AOL.COM (Rich Hamel) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 08:35:33 EDT Subject: Question about Imaginos Tour Message-ID: In a message dated 98-08-31 05:30:26 EDT, you write: << K wrote: > Do any of you know if BOC ever played Imaginos in its entirety after its release in 1988? No, they did not. I believe they only things they ever played were "I Am the One...", "Astronomy", and "In the Presence of Another World". -Chris Baker >> I THINK when I saw them on this tour (at the Club Casino in Hampton, NH) they played Del Rio's Song, but I'm not sure. They definitely played "I am the one" and "Astronomy" (with the single guitar notes of the old version breaking into the quicker guitar intro of the newer one). They also did "In the Presence". I doubt they did any of the other songs, since they are much more of a production, given the lighter gear BOC's been carrying around the last 10+ years. Rich From xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM Mon Aug 31 08:47:41 1998 From: xzx28 at DIAL.PIPEX.COM (Stuart A Hamilton) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 13:47:41 +0100 Subject: OFF: ROCK FAMILY TREES / ROCK COVER VERSIONS Message-ID: The previously mentioned BBC Rock Family Trees starts Friday 4 September. The six programmes are; Folk Rock [Mamas & The Papas / Lovin Spoonful] Sabbath Bloody Sabbath The Mersey Sound Banshees And Other Creatures The Prog Rock Years And God Created Manchester. A further aside. Trapped in a hospital ward last week with three seventeen year olds I was subjected to MTV for 4 whole days. And as a collector of cover versions I was hit in the pocket by dance versions of "I Love Rock And Roll" which has re-emerged as "Everybody Get Up" by 5IVE, "Paradise City" by N-TRANCE and "You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet" by BUS STOP which actually has Randy Bachman in the video looking like Jerry Garcia. And do you know what was worst of all. None of my ward mates remembered any of the originals. God, I feel old. Z NP - 5IVE - Everybody Get Up -- ================================================================= ZEITGEIST E-ZINE & THE RECORD HUNTER at http://www.zeitgeist-scot.com Shamrock Multimedia, PO Box 13499, Edinburgh EH6 8YL, UK Tel: 0966-389732 Fax: 0131-467-1827 =========================================================================== From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Mon Aug 31 09:26:10 1998 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (brian halligan) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 09:26:10 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Thoughts about the new album Message-ID: Andrew said: >I don't mind the URL pointing to a place to get lyrics instead >of printing them, as a cost saving move..... though I would >like it if said site had something you could print out (say, on >.pdf that would be usable on any system) as liner notes.... Great idea. That way you could use the booklet like Frank Zappa did with "You Are What You Is," and throw in an essay or article. Maybe even some band-produced artwork a la "Career of Christmas"? >My latest prediction for the album title: >"Premedication" "Pox Set" Brian ---------- Brian Halligan mailto:brianh at pulleyn.com http://home.earthlink.net/~halligan/wicker.html "We are drawing a moustache on the wanted poster of the face of music." -Fierce Wicker ---------- > And he took the stars in his hands > and as he scattered them he'd shout: > "I'm the Joker of the Universe! > I'm What it's all about!" > > - "The Great Sun Jester" > by Blue ?yster Cult (Eric Bloom, Michael Moorcock) > >-AAA From abrevard at SHL.COM Mon Aug 31 10:19:13 1998 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 07:19:13 -0700 Subject: OFF: Molly Hatchet Message-ID: >Isn't it amazing how this sort of stuff is still big in Germany? :) > >Hard rock & heavy metal always were big in Germany. Don't ask me why.... Cake... They know good beer and good rock and roll when they hear it... Ghost in the Ruins From paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU Mon Aug 31 11:02:50 1998 From: paul at GROMIT.DLIB.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 11:02:50 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Thoughts about the new album In-Reply-To: <329A5258416CD111928F006008A62C765625E3@bpxsv.156.106.206.in-addr.arpa> Message-ID: On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, brian halligan wrote: => Andrew said: => => >I don't mind the URL pointing to a place to get lyrics instead => >of printing them, as a cost saving move..... though I would => >like it if said site had something you could print out (say, on => >.pdf that would be usable on any system) as liner notes.... => => Great idea. That way you could use the booklet like Frank Zappa did => with "You Are What You Is," and throw in an essay or article. Except Frank printed the lyrics in that booklet... Cheers, Paul. obCD: Egg, _Egg_ PS: At the very least you'd want PURLs or handles, not URLs. e-mail: paul at gromit.dlib.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Mon Aug 31 12:41:22 1998 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 12:41:22 -0400 Subject: BOC - Al use of a gas mask?? Message-ID: Can anyone (preferably Al) confirm or deny this? The following post was recently posted to USENET: "Even though it's really hard to think about much of anything, what with the terrible news about Ricky, I decided I had better post this before I forget it. About a week ago, I met a fellow at a really cool used record store who was a big fan of B C around the Secret Treaties era... he had a lot to say about the laser show that was to come later, but he also mentioned something I thought was interesting about Albert Bouchard when they did Me262 during the Agents of Fortune and Spectres tours: he said that somewhere towards the end of the song (presumably after the five guitars), Albert would be wearing a German style gas-mask. Eventually, rockets would shoot from either side of Al's drums, and he would then take the mask off and throw it into the crowd. He claimed to have actually had one of these masks for a time, and as a kid had painted the Kronos symbol on the front of it with blue paint (and, of course, since lost it somewhere along the line). I guess my question is, can anyone else substantiate this? If so, I really think it ought to be added to the BOC FAQ... I think this has to be at least as interesting as where it mentions that they used to use colored lights in ETI during the "queen in yellow and king in red" line..." John From brian-coulthard at EMAIL.MSN.COM Mon Aug 31 14:07:11 1998 From: brian-coulthard at EMAIL.MSN.COM (Brian Coulthard) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 19:07:11 +0100 Subject: I've got a sausage machine In-Reply-To: <199808310900.FAA27805@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: Did anyone see the Reeves and Mortimer show on Saturday on BBC1 when Vic Reeves sang a rather unusual version of Silver Machine while some one was stuffing a sausage. He changed the words to "I've got a sausage machine" On the subject of the proposed Ledge of Darkness tour while it could be the Hawks finest hour well hour and a half I hope the current line up does not get neglected as Rizz, Richards and Tree have got the potential to make some of the freshest and most interesting music for years. Could they support? From russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM Mon Aug 31 14:39:46 1998 From: russell.j.hall at LMCO.COM (Hall, Russell J) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 14:39:46 -0400 Subject: I've got a sausage machine Message-ID: I love to grind with a sausage machine and I'm still pretty keen Do you want to grind forequarters & hind making some links, right next to the sink It works like a dream and antiseptically clean thats my sausage Machine I love to grind with my sausage machine > Do you want to grind > forequarters & hind stuffing those skins, made from cow intestines I know what you are saying - these lyrics are the 'wurst' > ---------- > From: Brian Coulthard[SMTP:brian-coulthard at EMAIL.MSN.COM] > Reply To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List > Sent: Monday, August 31, 1998 2:07 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: I've got a sausage machine > > Did anyone see the Reeves and Mortimer show on Saturday on BBC1 when Vic > Reeves sang a rather unusual version of Silver Machine while some one was > stuffing a sausage. He changed the words to "I've got a sausage machine" > > From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Mon Aug 31 18:52:23 1998 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:52:23 -0400 Subject: BOC - Al use of a gas mask?? Message-ID: >end of the song (presumably after the five guitars), Albert would be wearing >a German style gas-mask. Eventually, rockets would shoot from either side I only did it for a few shows. I got the mask from Dick Manitoba at a 'Taters show and wore it for a while until I got tired of it and threw it to the crowd one night. It was from the Army/Navy store on 14th street. Don't know if it was German. Doubt it though. I also wore a gas mask in the Regal Tones (high school band) whenever we played at the American Legion (because of the smoke). We always had pyro ever since we played with Kiss. I don't remember any actual rockets though. >of Al's drums, and he would then take the mask off and throw it into the >crowd. He claimed to have actually had one of these masks for a time, and >as a kid had painted the Kronos symbol on the front of it with blue paint That was probably it. Al From m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU Mon Aug 31 21:26:30 1998 From: m.wilcox at UQ.NET.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1998 11:26:30 +1000 Subject: HW: New Era? (WAS: I've got a sausage machine) Message-ID: Brian Coulthard wrote: > On the subject of the proposed Ledge of Darkness tour while it could be the > Hawks finest hour well hour and a half I hope the current line up does not > get neglected as Rizz, Richards and Tree have got the potential to make some > of the freshest and most interesting music for years. Could they support? Assuming that all of these rumors are true (or even a small percentage of them are true) it looks like the Hawks could quite possibly make a come-back. Its certainly what they need, considering the fiasco with Distant Horizons (i.e. the complete lack of marketing & the overall rush job). As far as Rizz, Richards & Tree being a part of the new stuff - I think they should (and most likely will). The Hawks have never been too worried about having a large number of members in the band (more than 3 or 4, that is) - and IMHO that is when they have done some of their best stuff. Having diverse influences was always what kept them going - Calvert's singing/lyrics or Huw's guitar vs Brock, etc., etc. Lastly, I'd love to see the band get a dedicated synth player back into the fold. Nuff said... - Max Wilcox