From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Fri Aug 1 05:01:00 1997 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 10:01:00 +0100 Subject: off: djam karet In-Reply-To: Ron Jennings' mail of Thu, 31 Jul 97 20:40 -0400 Message-ID: On 01 Aug 01:40, Ron Jennings wrote: > djam karet is an excellent band with "no commercial potential" (they had > a release by that name. some of it sounds something like ozrics, and > some of it borders on industrial. What I've heard sounded like bland jazz fusion. I guess they just didn't trip my trigger. Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Mayfield Road, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. Tel: +44 131 472 4782 From mwood at SLICE.AGILE.COM Fri Aug 1 08:39:43 1997 From: mwood at SLICE.AGILE.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 08:39:43 EDT Subject: OFF: Jethro Tull In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19970731234019.00903ba0@mailbox.mc.hik.se>; from "Daniel Wikdahl" at Aug 1, 97 1:40 am Message-ID: >>Stormwatch which is great, especially considered as the third >>part of a trilogy (i.e. Songs from the Wood, Heavy Horses, Stormwatch) It took many listens for me to really feel that SW was part of this trilogy, despite people on the Tull mailing list insisting it was so. I guess I can hear the connection now, but SftW and HH are much closer in sound. >Huh?!? I've heard this before -that people don't like "Killing Wissie"... >"Kissing Willie"... but I can't understand why not... I like it... I think that serious Tull fans don't appreciate tunes that can't be taken seriously. That said, I don't really care for "KW". My friend who is a casual Tull fan loves that track, and is always disappointed when they don't play it in concert. >have you heard "Roots to Branches" (I >Shit! If I just look at it, standing in my shelf next to "Catfish Rising" and >"Nightcap" and that sort of things then I start to cry... >I just can't find anything on that record that I like -where's the melodies? Oh, come on - "Valley" is a great song, anyway! That track where Anderson just speaks the vocal part is pretty dire, though. >-where's the riffs? -where's the new exciting inventive music??? I hear lots of Middle Eastern influences that I haven't heard in Tull music before, especially in cuts like "Rare & Precious Chain." What did you think of Anderson's solo CD, _Divinities_? I enjoyed it, but it didn't hold my attention for more than a few weeks. >Maybe Ian is using the wrong hole when he's playing the flute on this one??? HA! Sounds like his on-stage antics have gone too far! MWood NP: _Space Ritual_ - Hawkwind From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Fri Aug 1 09:17:38 1997 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:17:38 -0400 Subject: OFF: Jethro Tull Message-ID: > >Huh?!? I've heard this before -that people don't like "Killing Wissie"... > >"Kissing Willie"... but I can't understand why not... I like it... > I think that serious Tull fans don't appreciate tunes that can't > be taken seriously. That said, I don't really care for "KW". My > friend who is a casual Tull fan loves that track, and is always > disappointed when they don't play it in concert. As what is probably considered to be a "casual" Tull fan (I have 6 albums), I do enjoy KW. I can't fathom why there is such a need for fans to view prog rock, or any music, as serious. It doesn't make it any less important, or "classic". And serious is never the first word that comes to mind when I think of Ian Anderson anyway. Now cheezy, that's something else all together. I don't think KW falls into this category though. > >have you heard "Roots to Branches" (I > >Shit! If I just look at it, standing in my shelf next to "Catfish Rising" and > >"Nightcap" and that sort of things then I start to cry... > >I just can't find anything on that record that I like -where's the melodies? > Oh, come on - "Valley" is a great song, anyway! That track > where Anderson just speaks the vocal part is pretty dire, though. > >-where's the riffs? -where's the new exciting inventive music??? > I hear lots of Middle Eastern influences that I haven't heard in > Tull music before, especially in cuts like "Rare & Precious Chain." > What did you think of Anderson's solo CD, _Divinities_? I enjoyed > it, but it didn't hold my attention for more than a few weeks. I was lucky enough to see Tull on the RTB tour, and I can tell you that many of these songs come off better in concert. Martin cranks his guitar up a notch or something. I agree about the Middle Eastern influences, and Rare & Precious Chain is my favorite track on the album. What bothers me about Tull today is Ian's voice. I think he has Eric Bloom syndrome, or vice-versa. It's really a shame, but I believe his flute playing has improved as a result (more time to practice?) ObHawkwind: The opening band was ELP, who have an album on the prog-rock poll, while we're trying to get a HW album on the poll. > >Maybe Ian is using the wrong hole when he's playing the flute on this one??? > HA! Sounds like his on-stage antics have gone too far! No doubt he's probably tried it at home just to see if he could pull it off (no pun intended) at a show. > MWood ObCD: "Mothership Connection" -Parliament -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3484 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mwood at SLICE.AGILE.COM Fri Aug 1 09:58:25 1997 From: mwood at SLICE.AGILE.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:58:25 EDT Subject: OFF: Jethro Tull In-Reply-To: <01BC9E5B.C2BFE620@cathyr.pulleyn.com>; from "Brian Halligan" at Aug 1, 97 9:17 am Message-ID: Jeez, maybe I should resubscribe to the St. Cleve Chronicle... >What bothers me about Tull today is Ian's voice. >It's really a shame, but I believe his flute playing has improved as a result (more >time to practice?) Actually, he took some lessons! Seriously. He found out he had been doing some basic stuff wrong all these years. And he picked up some different kinds of flutes during that Middle Eastern tour where they recorded most of _A Little Light Music_. >ObHawkwind: The opening band was ELP, who have an album on the prog-rock poll, while >we're trying to get a HW album on the poll. You, my friend, are a world-class hoop jumper. >>>Maybe Ian is using the wrong hole when he's playing the flute on this one??? >> HA! Sounds like his on-stage antics have gone too far! >No doubt he's probably tried it at home just to see if he could pull it off (no pun intended) at >a show. Must've hit a lot of bum notes! MWood NP: _The Ritual Continues_ - Djam Karet From kfrazier at NCSA.UIUC.EDU Fri Aug 1 10:35:30 1997 From: kfrazier at NCSA.UIUC.EDU (Keith Frazier) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:35:30 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind NYC 8/29 In-Reply-To: <970731200302_-2008888375@emout16.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: Are there any other tour dates for HW in the US. Keith At 08:03 PM 7/31/97 -0400, you wrote: >Hi All, >OK here'e the scoop. > >Hawkwind/ Hansel und Gretel/ Alien Planetscapes/ Finally Balanced >SOLAR FIRE LIGHTSHOW >Tickets $15 in advance $20 day of show. > >Tickets are available now from TicketMaster 212-307-7171 >Coney Island # is 212-674-7959 >15 St. Marks Pl. Between 2nd & 3rd Av NYC > >The club is in the heart of Greenwich Village in Manhattan NOT A High School >in Brooklyn. For directions and survival guide email me. > >Club is super cool no heavy handed security---do what u like--Just be >discreet. > >regards, >Bill Stewart > > From monsieur at MYMAIL.NET Fri Aug 1 12:05:51 1997 From: monsieur at MYMAIL.NET (DAMON CAPEHART) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:05:51 -0500 Subject: off: Pressurehed show in Phila! Message-ID: On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:56:16 -0400 Bob Lennon wrote: >Just saw Pressurehed at Nick's last night in Phila, PA >they were ****in' incredible!!!! > >if anyone gets a chance to see them - please do I'd love to, but their supposed date at the Orbit Room here in Dallas is apparently not happening, according to the Orbit Room itself. I'll explain more later... Damon From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Fri Aug 1 12:04:19 1997 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (I talk to planets, baby) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 17:04:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Skew the vote (maybe OFF:) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, Erin Marie Moore wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, Craig Shipley wrote: > > > > What do we reckon is the most prog HW? > > > > > Quark is good, but I think a better choice would be Warrior On The Edge Of > > Time. > > I think WotEoT is the obvious choice and I'm all for skewing a vote. > OK that is what I'll vote for then Mike w From Hawkwindus at AOL.COM Fri Aug 1 13:44:21 1997 From: Hawkwindus at AOL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 13:44:21 -0400 Subject: off:The great HW rare vinyl search!! Message-ID: I am re-posting this message with more detail/clarification. anyone caring to respond, make smartass replies, be helpful, or to remind me of the obvious (that these items are rare-please see subject!) please e-mail me directly at: Hawkwindus at aol.com or Hawkus at hotmail.com I have a friend (Mike Coleman) who is searching for mint/mint+ condition copies of the following he is mainly interested in obtaining mint covers as he has these records already with the vinyl in mint condition. He will pay generously for these items as he is a rabbid collector: 1) Hassan I Sahba/Damnation Alley Pt.2 7" mike will swap covers plus give $100 worth of merchandise for mint/mint+ cover 2) Church of Hawkwind 12" ok not a super tough one...but he's looking for a mint/mint+ cover > 3) Dave Brock Agents of Chaos (lighter printed version) 12" the lighter printed version has a dull or matte finish cover the "darker" version is on more of a gloss/coated stock also there is an offer for anyone not wanting to lose their only copy of one of the above items: my friend will send a VG+/excellent copy of any of the above plus trade other rare items for the mint version of it. any takers e-mail me and i'll forward it most recomended cd: th faith healers "lido" From henrik.hallgren at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Fri Aug 1 14:55:01 1997 From: henrik.hallgren at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 20:55:01 +0200 Subject: HW: Pseudo sun Message-ID: Daniel Wikdahl wrote: > > At 09:05 PM 7/31/97 +0200, you wrote: > >Gretings! > > > >I thought I should tell you about a new spacerock-CD from Sweden. > >It?s Pseudo Sun with Juha Nurmenniemi (ex bass-player in drax) > > > > [snip!] > > It sounds good to me, but is't impossible to find it in CD shop even here > in Sweden??? I would like to listen to it before I buy it... Well, I don?t know but you might try phoning him and ask? His number is 08-58358368 > > mvh -Daniel Wikdahl Cheers Henrik > > "Vad? jultraditioner? Hos oss har vi nya traditioner varje ?r" (CG) > > Daniel Wikdahl > Kaptensgatan 2a > S-39 236 KALMAR > SWEDEN > +46 480 245 11 -- ========================================================== "Hallucinations flash by my eyes. I see images of strange far away places. New chocking technology and civilations based on astral magic." >From "Astral magic" by Dark Sun Henrik Hallgren, Stapelv?gen 5, 856 34 Sundsvall, Sweden Email: henrik.hallgren at sundsvall.mail.telia.com / henrik.hallgren at ortv.sca.se Fax +46 70 6101310 / Phone +46 60 173716 From ianfines at JUNO.COM Fri Aug 1 16:34:47 1997 From: ianfines at JUNO.COM (Ian R Fines) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:34:47 -0400 Subject: OFF: Prog Vote Message-ID: >ObNews: NEKTAR reunion > any details on this one? From ianfines at JUNO.COM Fri Aug 1 16:41:10 1997 From: ianfines at JUNO.COM (Ian R Fines) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:41:10 -0400 Subject: Gong US Tour Dates Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Jul 1997 11:14:53 -0700 Chuck Rosenberg writes: >---------- >> >> After some totally extreme surfing, I found that Gong is going to be >> touring the west coast later in Sept.. You lucky bastards! > >Well, it damn well serves you right! When was the last time HW played >So. >Cal? '94? Or any other band that could be labeled "Space Rock", for >that >matter? Oh yeah? When was the last time HW played in Detroit? '90? Though we do have a huge space rock scene... From henderson.120 at OSU.EDU Fri Aug 1 17:31:54 1997 From: henderson.120 at OSU.EDU (Keith Henderson) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 17:31:54 -0400 Subject: OFF: Fish 30/7/97 Toronto Message-ID: Hi Folks... Well, this is a bit off-topic, but at least one list member is interested in Fish's new album, following a couple dodgy releases in recent years. Plus, this newest one (Sunsets on Empire) has a strong Porcupine Tree influence (since Steve Wilson is producer, arranger, guitarist, keyboardist, and cowriter of over half the songs). And PTree isn't too far from the Hawkwind tree. Anyway, the new album is fine material, and is now available on both sides of the pond. He would've been selling them at the Toronto show, except that they had sold out their stock much earlier in the tour. I think that future gigs will have them again. A little like the T-Shirts during Spirit of the Age '95. On to the show...boy, was this a brilliant concert! Fish is an extraordinary performer, and he must've been in rare form this night. The show went an amazing 2 hrs. 20 min., and reached several 'climaxes' (no jokes, please) that I surely thought were the end each time. But they were all premature. The venue was a little strange, but nice. It obviously is a dance/disco club most nights, with the mirror balls and insane overhead flashing lights and spotlights, but most of this stuff was shut down for this night. The sound system, as you might imagine, was of very high caliber-plenty loud enough, but with strong clarity so each 'voice' was easily heard. The stage was a bit narrow but deep, and quite high such that all the players were easily visible at all times. The band - Derek Dick - Vocals, insane commentary & crazy stories J.J. Bell - Guitar (from Fr. Guiana, apparently) Steve Mancis(?) - Bass Mickey Simmonds - Keyboard Dave 'Squeeky' Stewart - Drums These guys are complete no-names to me, other than the fact that Simmonds played on Vigil and Stewart appears on the new album. Nothing about these guys was particularly outstanding, although they were competant & played well together despite obviously just being thrown together. This show was all about Fish, of course, and he held court in the finest of all fashions. I knew he was a big guy, but I didn't realize how big...he must be something like 6'5"/230 lbs. or something. And he's got very little of what you would call 'hair' left. I would'nt have recognized him to be honest. The set - (not exactly in order, I'm sure) Johnny Punter (SoE) Goldfish & Clowns (SoE) Family Business (ViaWoM) What Colour is God? (SoE) Suits (?) (S) Change of Heart (SoE) Brother 52 (SoE) Assassin part I (F) Credo (IE) Tongues (IE) Assassin part II (F) Fugazi (last part) (F) Jungle Ride (SoE) White Feather (MC) Cliche (ViaWoM) Lucky (IE) Encore: The Company (ViaWoM) Worm in a Bottle (SoE) Internal Exile (IE) 2nd Encore: Lavender (MC) A little disappointing that there weren't any tracks from my favourite Marillion/Fish album, Clutching at Straws, but the selection was quite good overall. All the best songs from 'Sunsets' were played (including What Colour is God?...the most PTree-like of the lot, and Jungle Ride, which is very Sky Cries Mary-like), plus my four favourites from Internal Exile were all performed. White Feather was absolutely brilliant, and was the highlight of the show. I was amazed that this wasn't the finale of the show, as the crowd became most energetic at this point. (Toronto crowds are always great, which is why I've seen Hawkwind there three times, as well as Pink Floyd.) Lavender was also a nice touch...and quite surprising. I'm guessing that he doesn't do that one in every city. The only song I didn't know was Suits (I guess) from the album of the same name. It was an O.K. song, but I've heard that the album isn't so hot, which is why I've never shelled out the dough for this import. The last two times I saw Marillion, the shows were ok, but nothing special...the Season's End show I saw at the Phantasy Theatre (Cleveland) was quite brilliant, though. This one was at least as good, probabaly better. I'd definitely recommend seeing this man in action. There's a few weeks of US dates left...including Columbus (!), which I'll miss, since I leave for Nepal/Tibet on Sunday for two months. Check your local calenders. Keith H. (FAA) P.S. See ya' in October....now how the hell do I go about (temporarily) unsubcribing again? P.P.S. Y'all have fun now at the Labor Day Space Rock festival...I'll be thinking about ya' while I'm up in the mountains. From torgo at NORWICH.NET Fri Aug 1 17:52:37 1997 From: torgo at NORWICH.NET (Torgo) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 17:52:37 -0400 Subject: BOC: Fireworks over CNY Message-ID: Hey folks: I just found out that BOC will be appearing at the FIREWORKS OVER CENTRAL NY show at Vernon Downs Racetrack in Vernon (near Utica). Tickets are 5 bucks. For those not familiar, its an all day fest with bands, skydivers, rides, and all that hoo-ha. I caught Thorogood there a few years ago. Other bands on this years bill include... Little Feat Matchbox 20 Govenment Mule (with Warren Hanes) (saw them 2 years ago, they smoke) and a pile of others I have never heard of. I'll probably be there at least for BOC, possibly Mule. Wish Rob (Rudy) Rudich could have been there to catch Gov't Mule, he really dug them. I am glad I met the man at the BS gig in Auburn several months back. He was one cool customer and I will miss him terribly from my daily e-mail. Whoever makes up the rules for this crazy dance we call life is gonna hear it from me some day, I have some things I'd like to say to him. Torgo has left the building...... torgo at norwich.net ***************************************************************** "We each pay a fabulous price on our visions of paradise but a spirit with a vision is a dream with a mission" ***************************************************************** From torgo at NORWICH.NET Fri Aug 1 17:57:17 1997 From: torgo at NORWICH.NET (Torgo) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 17:57:17 -0400 Subject: BOC: Fireworks over CNY Message-ID: HEY! I almost forgot, there are some massive fireworks at this thing also. Thus the name. BOC is being billed UNDER Little Feat, matchbox 20, Gov't Mule, and Sweetvine, so I wonder how many songs they are gonna do. I just hope they don't put them after Puppet Show on the billing. Outta here.... Torgo has left the building...... torgo at norwich.net ***************************************************************** "We each pay a fabulous price on our visions of paradise but a spirit with a vision is a dream with a mission" ***************************************************************** From monsieur at MYMAIL.NET Sat Aug 2 01:57:16 1997 From: monsieur at MYMAIL.NET (DAMON CAPEHART) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 00:57:16 -0500 Subject: OFF: Jethro Tull Message-ID: On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:18:58 EDT Marshall Wood wrote: >I'm surprised you didn't mention _Under Wraps_, which is a truly horrid >effort. Actually, I sorta like Under Wraps... :-) My favorite album is either "Brick" or "Minstrel", though. Damon From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Sat Aug 2 04:24:15 1997 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff and Pam Wheaton) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 02:24:15 -0600 Subject: OFF: Jethro Tull Message-ID: DAMON CAPEHART wrote: > On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:18:58 EDT Marshall Wood > wrote: > >I'm surprised you didn't mention _Under Wraps_, which is a truly > horrid > >effort. > > Actually, I sorta like Under Wraps... :-) > > My favorite album is either "Brick" or "Minstrel", though. > > Damon I haven't heard "Under Wraps" -yet:) I have trouble deciding between "Broadsword" and Song's from the Wood". tho:)Both excellent Pam -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton ____/----^----\____ The greatest tool Hi All esp. Keith Glad to see the Fish review. He wasnt on rare form that night, he is ALWAYS that good. You haven't seen a concert until you have seen Fish doing Sunsets. A word about his band, Dave Stewart the drummer has been with Fish for a long time. He took a few months off prior to this tour to play drums with Proggers Camel though. Very highly rated by Steve Wilson BTW, Squeeky Stewart that is, not Camel!!! Steve Vesantis is the new bass player, good fretless player. JJ replaced Keith More on lead and Mickey returned to Fish's band after doing some session work and a solo album. They get on like a house on fire and he is clearly happy to be back in the fold. Fish is 6ft 5 BTW, Suits was his previous album and is not as good as Sunsets which is astonishing, indeed one reviewer described it as the best thing he had heard the past decade. Steve Wilson will collaborate with Fish on the next one so expect another stunning creation. In the meantime, go and see him live, there is nothing quite like it (concert wise!!!!) All the best Jill Douglas From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Aug 2 05:35:57 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 10:35:57 +0100 Subject: OFF : Julian Cope / Amon Duul etc. Message-ID: Had a good night out last night. Julian Cope presenting Three hours of Krautrock films, (Can In Concert, Amon Duul II do Phallus Dei some Beat Club footage inc. more Amon Duul II, a snatch of Popol Vuh and a glorious one-off collaboration of Neu! and Kraftwerk) at the NFT on the South Bank. As it turned out Julian hadn't seen these films before either and so didn't have a great deal to say before the show, the idea being we would discuss them after. After however, he was as blown away as the rest of us by this "astonishing, evocative, heroic glimpse of Man at the Peak of his Artistic Magic" (tounge firmly in cheek) , and had even less to say. Really, the whole audience was mindsprung by this difficult, experimental primitive psychedelia. 5 nice points 1) not many people 2) jolly comfy seats 3) Going for beer after with Andy G. 4) queueing up next to Bobby Gillespie from Primal Scream 5) Juilan sitting on the floor next to me for half the show. 1 bad point 1) Bar closed at 11.00 :(((( ObServation It's a shame Peter Leopold (ADII) never drummed for the Hawks !! Now I have to buy the first two Neu! albums. Bye! -- Jon B From stayer at PI.NET Sat Aug 2 05:17:35 1997 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 02:17:35 -0700 Subject: OFF: Nektar reunion Message-ID: Jerry: > >ObNews: NEKTAR reunion Ian R Fines wrote: > any details on this one? Hehe, I /knew/ someone would ask about this... :-) I'm so excited about this news! All four original musicians are in; Roye Albrighton, Alan "Taff" Freeman, Derek "Mo" Moore and Ron Howden. Larry Fast has shown interest in working with Nektar again as well. Mo Moore recently said they had some new material worked out and said that everyone was really excited about it. Plus, in 1977 (Roye reuniting with the others), the band wrote some music described by Roye as the best they had ever done. This could help as well: http://www.nektar.com I don't mind if the album is a bad one or a good one, as long as they will go on tour! Jerry From henrik.hallgren at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Sat Aug 2 06:18:51 1997 From: henrik.hallgren at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 12:18:51 +0200 Subject: HW: 1997 Space party/Free festival. Message-ID: Hi again! This time you can read about the festival held in Hamburg 13-15/6 this year. For me and my wife it was really a great moment. We hope you should find the review interesting. A report from the "Free" Festival (1997 space party) in Hamburg 13-15/6-97. Unfortunately a litle bit late due to circumstances beyond my control. The festival was organized by Thomas Leonhardt (Hawkfan from Hamburg) and friends and they where also responsible for selling food and beer and many other things I guess. The festival was free but donations was welcome to minimize the loss plus the income from selling food and beer ( and we drank a lot of beer and ate one or two bratwurst). There where some changes among the bands participating. darXtar had to say no since the commander?s throat got infected by some virus and as a replacement Dark Sun from Finland joined the forces. Unfortunately Hawkwind couldn?t make either, due to other commitments. Anyway, my wife and me was really looking forward to this trip down to Germany since we needed some rest from work and school. Our journey started 5.30 pm on Thursday 12/6 and we travelled by train via Stockholm and Copenhagen, a journey which took us 18 hours. No problem really since we met interesting people along the way, and of course, we had booked two beds in a sleeping-car between Stockholm and Copenhagen. We arrived in Hamburg 1.30 pm next day and went immedietly to our hotel in Harburg (south of Elbe and near the festival-area). After a shower and new clothes we met Bernhard Pospiech who also was staying at the same hotel, and it was indeed a pleasure to meet him after so many e-mails, phonecalls and letters. It seems like the most of us are having only contact via e-mail and so on, which is a pity I think since there are so many friendly fans around the globe. Perhaps we need more spacerock-festivals? We went along to the area together and of course, almost immediately we met more fans I knew from mail and otherwise. We also got the chance to meet Dark Sun and the Moor for the very first time, although I?ve met Kenneth Magnusson before. I?ve also had contact with Santtu from DS for over two years so this was more like a family-meeting than a rock-festival in a sense. The festival was held at an industrial estate along South-Elbe and it was a "green" and calm place. The place is usually used by a local rock-club. Groups that were playing: On friday: The Rakes (local HM/bluesrock), Trev Thoms/Nik (ICU unplugged) and Tribes of Cro (some kind of Ozric-styled group from UK) On Saturday: Dark Sun (finnish heavy prog/spacerock), The Moor with Nik (swedish heavy prog/avantgarderock plus the support from "our" Uncle) and Alan Davey?s Bedouin. The Rakes started the show and they sounded very much like Judas Priest, especially the singer. Nothing for me though even if they played well despite the poor sound. Time for Trev Thoms and Nik doing a sort of ICU unplugged with the standard-set of ICU-songs. I guess it?s OK if you fancy that kind of music. We (me, my wife and Bernhard) left after about the half set and went into the Altstadt of Harburg instead for some talking and beer-drinking, quite nice actually since the weather was great (and the company). For that reason we missed Tribes of Cro completely but I guess if you?ve heard Ozric Tentacles before... Next day started with breakfast together with Bernhard at the hotel and then a trip to the city of Hamburg for some shopping and just strolling around. We went back around 2 pm to the festival for some talk with other fans and then Bernhard left for some anniversery in his hometown. First band on Saturday was Dark Sun who started 6 pm and they started with a real spacerock-song called "Abduction files" from their debut-CD which is a marvellous track. What the song is about you can probably imagine! Like almost every song they have done it?s plenty of guitars and keyboards which I like a lot. Next track "astral magic" continues the way the band started with a rich and colorful sound. Perhaps a heavier version than before. But I guess with a band consisting of seven members there?s lots of ideas and ways of playing, although heavy prog/space is dominating. Time for a new track called "Zombie tree" which sounds promising with plenty of HM-guitars and strong vocals by the lead-singer. This song is perhaps more HM than spacerock but what the heck!!! There?s a slower part in the middle but only a short one. "Our man inside" follows and is about agents and stuff like that. It starts with swirling synths and followed by vocals and the rest of the instrument. It?s a beautiful track with tasty guitarplaying and a solid rhytm-section. Unfortunately some problems again with the sound. Next track was "Tiny the man" and it starts like the most of the DS songs with keyboards. The lyrics is read from the start on this one. It?s a calmer and more relaxed song but nevertheless interesting to hear. The lyrics in their songs are also interesting and I suppose that they?ve done their homework on Asimov, Clarke and so on. On this track in the middle we also can hear a lovely organ-sound and that?s great I think since I like Hammond-style sounds (Hey Keith! where are you?). Last track before Nik is entering the stage is " Song the seaman?s bane", another slow paced keyboard-oriented song with more prog than space or HM. Well, at the end there?s some heavy playing. Nik is entering the stage and two ambient tracks are played with keyboards and sax. It?s more of improvising by Nik but it?s good anyway, not the freakout style but more disciplined playing. Usually he?s quite good at both sax and flute. The tracks are titled "Strange noises and "Time-space continuum" with "Time.." sounding like a hymn of some kind, great and a touching tune indeed. After a few minutes the band starts to use other instruments as well and it somehow reminds me of modern Tangerine Dream, a killer this one! Time for the heavier part of the set which starts with "Black spires". It is a traditional DS song with a higher tempo and played with lots of enthusiasm and energy as usual. Is it the finns famous SISU? I must also add that these guys can really handle their equipment, which is something you can hear on both the CD and on various live-tapes. Time for the HW-covers and they perform two of my HW-favourite tracks "Assault&Battery" and "Golden Void" and they do that like they did on their demotape - fast and furious, perhaps the best version played so far (IMHO). I said it when I heard the demotape and I?ve still got the same opinion. Perhaps even more heavy live than in studio! "Machine lover" comes next and this is yet another powerful song performed brilliant and with lots of energy (a trademark of the band?). Time for another HW-cover "The right stuff", played at high speed by the band and Uncle Nik, amazing to say at least! Time for the last track "Mind eater", yet another track from their debut-CD "Feed your mind" played at a higher speed than usual and an excellent end of their firts show outside Finland, let?s hope we can see more of them both in Scandinavia and Europe. Next band on stage is The Moor together with Nik and of course - Knut Gerwers from Berlin and wellknown for his excellent work with "The spirit of Robert Calvert" homepage. His contribution was to read Calvert-poems between some track and if my menory serves me correctly, he did it between some groups as well. Nik has played before with The Moor on their second CD "Flux" but never live with them so this was really exciting. The Moor is perhaps not so much spacerock but more technoprog a?la King Crimson (another favourite-group). The group does HW-covers usually and "Angels of death" was on their debut-CD "Every pixel sells a story". The show starts with "Suck", a heavy and melodic track with lots of keyboards.It reminds me of early KC around 74-75 (a golden period). Chainsaw-guitars and a tight rhytm-section provides a wall of sound. Over to a Nik-track called "Watching the grass grow", usually not one of my faves but this version is really good, less Nik and more Moor!?! Time for Knut to enter the stage and read "in the egg" which he does perfect I think. It can?t be easy to try this sort of thing, I mean Bob was a great poet abut it seems like the audience did like it very much. Next track by The Moor was "Soon" with a lovely mellotron-intro (Kenneth is one of the guys still using this ancient instrument and thank God for that!), and I can almost feel tears in my eyes. It?s so damn beautiful with mellotron. As usual very dark lyrics read or sung by Hans M?ll with his deep voice, is this the reason why he?s using a headlamp? Now over to the Nik-part of this show with our Uncle using stageclothes which looks like a jokers dress. They starts with "the pyramid-spell" which is performed with lots of feeling and this creates a special atmosphere on the festival-area and people are just standing quiet and enjoying the magic from the ancient Egypt. The magic is continuing with more Nik songs - "Anubis", "Thoth", "Osiris"and "God rock". These songs suits perfectly for live-performances it seems. I can imagine how it would be like if Nik was a man with financial backup by some rich record-company. Knut is entering the stage again and this time we can enjoy his reading in "fly on the screen", and of course, he does it brilliant again, lots of practice before or a natural talent? It was a smart move to add poetry in the show, it gives more value for the money so to speak. Next it?s The Moor again with "Consider death" from their first CD. The opening is heavy with guitar, bass and drums, they do have a special sound these guys! The lyrics are once again very dark and worth considering as most of them or perhaps all of them? Rhytmic and yet heavy songs played with lots of energy by skilled musicians. Time for their last track this time and it?s "night&day", another heavy song (a trademark of the Moor) combining progstyle keyboards with heavy ROCK. This time there?s a long pause since Bedouin got so much gear and the roadies are working intensive to get it all together (I think!). I got the chance to talk to Alan, Shawn and Danny about music in general and their new group. Nice and friendly guys indeed. Their set started about two hours later than expected but anyway and they opened with "Never comedown" from his first solo-CD. The sound was great and these guys can rock your socks off! Next was some new tracks from the 12" single "Rock palace", "Wadi Dhar", "Passion is an animal" and "Al Hadan" followed by some track I can?t remember (to much Astra-beer). What I do remember is that they sound like a crossing between Hawkwind and Mot?rhead (a psychedelic version of Mot?rhead if you like). Very well played, hard as a rock and fast. The trouble is that I?ve heard it all before but then again, I do like it, perhaps my expectations where to high this time, I don?t know? Unfortunately we (me and my wife) got very tired and went to the hotel before the show was over but I think I know what to expect from them in the future. On Sunday we ate breakfast, left the hotel and went to Hamburg and time for us being tourists for the rest of the day (train-departure 5.30 pm from the Hauptbahnhof). Although it did cost us a lot of money it was worth every DM to visit Hamburg and the festival. The germans did a great job and all the fans and musicians where nice, no trouble at all. We will probably go to these kind of festivals more often in the future and especially if we get the chance to meet fans from other countries as well. Hope they do this again another year (I?m sure they do!) Next festival is the prog-rock festival in Stockholm 29-31/8, I?m really looking forward to it. Peace, love & happiness from Sweden Henrik -- ========================================================== "Hallucinations flash by my eyes. I see images of strange far away places. New chocking technology and civilations based on astral magic." >From "Astral magic" by Dark Sun Henrik Hallgren, Stapelv?gen 5, 856 34 Sundsvall, Sweden Email: henrik.hallgren at sundsvall.mail.telia.com / henrik.hallgren at ortv.sca.se Fax +46 (0)70 6101310 / Phone +46 (0)60 173716 From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Aug 2 09:20:38 1997 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 14:20:38 +0100 Subject: OFF : Julian Cope / Amon Duul etc. Message-ID: Indeed, a mind-blowing evening! All the clips were pretty awesome - if I had to pick my highlight, it'd have to be the take-no-prisoners version of "Eye-Shaking King", but the Can footage means I'm going to have to spin my old copy of _Tago Mago_ a bit more often! And the Kraftwerk/Neu! stuff was totally hypnotic. We were all a bit shell-shocked by it all (well I was anyway) - what the hell must it have been like to see these guys live in their prime? Good to see the Brownes after as well! 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Jon's still a bit of a lightweight >for not making it to Blackheath, of course :), but I look forward to seeing >the spacesuit at Shepherd's Bush... The last person to call me a lightweight (a week last Thursday actually) ended up in a whirling alcoholic pit while I, in the role of Pocus, laughed and called foul jeers. And I had him up at 5:00 a.m. with a rumbunctious "Rise and Shine" ! Not that it's big or clever to drink lots of course, especially when it as delitrious to your health as it is to mine. Having said that the word lightweight to me is like the word chicken to Marty McFly. :) I can't help rising to the bait. Probably *because* of my condition. Lager, lager, lager....... Sabina reliably tells me that sadly, the spacesuit is truly dead. Shame. It was an artifact from Gong / Here and Now days. Still, plenty of time to procure a new one. Possibly one with better "life support systems" Hmmmm..... -- Jon B From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Aug 2 10:28:41 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 15:28:41 +0100 Subject: B.O.C. gig in Copenhagen Aug. 9 In-Reply-To: <199707311426.QAA03829@mn1.swip.net> Message-ID: In article <199707311426.QAA03829 at mn1.swip.net>, Ola Nyberg writes >P.S.S. Does anybody have an opinion on Alan Davey's solo album, Captured >Rotation? Is it worth checking out? I love it. Meaty, bassy, sythy space rock. very little filler and very satisfying. Yum yum. We're told Bedouin will not sound like Cap. Rot., darn! -- Jon Browne From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Aug 2 10:35:19 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 15:35:19 +0100 Subject: HW: 1997 Space party/Free festival. In-Reply-To: <33E3098B.4AE2@sundsvall.mail.telia.com> Message-ID: Great review Henrick. Thanks! I'm looking foward to seeing Bedouin first opportunity, they sound like exactly what I want to hear! -- Jon B From henrik.hallgren at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Sat Aug 2 13:13:38 1997 From: henrik.hallgren at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 19:13:38 +0200 Subject: HW: 1997 Space party/Free festival. Message-ID: Jon Browne wrote: Hi Jon! > > Great review Henrick. Thanks! I'm looking foward to seeing Bedouin first > opportunity, they sound like exactly what I want to hear! Thanks for the flowers, as usual there?s to much work that is preventing me from writing. Right now I?ve three weeks off so this was my chance. > -- > Jon B Take care Henrik -- ========================================================== "Hallucinations flash by my eyes. I see images of strange far away places. New chocking technology and civilations based on astral magic." >From "Astral magic" by Dark Sun Henrik Hallgren, Stapelv?gen 5, 856 34 Sundsvall, Sweden Email: henrik.hallgren at sundsvall.mail.telia.com / henrik.hallgren at ortv.sca.se Fax +46 70 6101310 / Phone +46 60 173716 From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Sat Aug 2 13:24:44 1997 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff and Pam Wheaton) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 11:24:44 -0600 Subject: B.O.C. gig in Copenhagen Aug. 9 Message-ID: Jon Browne wrote: > In article <199707311426.QAA03829 at mn1.swip.net>, Ola Nyberg > writes > >P.S.S. Does anybody have an opinion on Alan Davey's solo album, > Captured > >Rotation? Is it worth checking out? > > I love it. Meaty, bassy, sythy space rock. very little filler and very > > satisfying. Yum yum. We're told Bedouin will not sound like Cap. Rot., > > darn! > -- > Jon Browne I agree!!! I agree-Tasty this one sure is!!! I highly reccommend this one!Pam -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton ____/----^----\____ The greatest tool Hey... I knew I should've written this stuff down somewhere. Can anyone tell me (real quickly) how I go about unsubscribing myself temporarily? I leave tomorrow and I don't want 5,000 messages in my box when I return. I've checked the boc-l archive homepage, and the commands aren't listed anywhere (why not?)...only info for potential new subscribers. If Ben is out there, could you make sure I'm off for now? Thanks. See y'all later...Keith H. (FAA) Henderson.120 at osu.edu From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sat Aug 2 13:51:40 1997 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 18:51:40 +0100 Subject: OFF : Julian Cope / Amon Duul etc. Message-ID: >The last person to call me a lightweight (a week last Thursday actually) >ended up in a whirling alcoholic pit while I, in the role of Pocus, >laughed and called foul jeers. OK, OK, it's my round next time!!! :) - Andy ObLP: Can - _Tago Mago_. From the sleeve notes: "The only outfit in England with anything in common with them is Hawkwind, but again that is inapposite. Hawkwind's sound is cleaner and more straightforward..." -- mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From ben at ST-CANARD.SPC.EDU Sat Aug 2 15:12:26 1997 From: ben at ST-CANARD.SPC.EDU (Ben Cohen) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 15:12:26 -0400 Subject: Unsubbing In-Reply-To: <199708021754.NAA12479@mail4.uts.ohio-state.edu> from "Keith Henderson" at Aug 2, 97 01:54:44 pm Message-ID: >Can anyone tell me (real quickly) how I go about unsubscribing myself >temporarily? >I leave tomorrow and I don't want 5,000 messages in my box when I return. >I've checked the boc-l archive homepage, and the commands aren't listed >anywhere (why not?)...only info for potential new subscribers. > >If Ben is out there, could you make sure I'm off for now? Thanks. I've set you for NOMAIL. When you get back, send mail to with a message body of "SET BOC-L MAIL" and you'll start getting mail again. >See y'all later...Keith H. (FAA) So... what do you do for the FAA? [I'm only asking because I'm a PP-ASEL...] Ben From ben at ST-CANARD.SPC.EDU Sat Aug 2 15:54:42 1997 From: ben at ST-CANARD.SPC.EDU (Ben Cohen) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 15:54:42 -0400 Subject: Unsubbing Message-ID: In case you hadn't guessed, that wasn't supposed to go to the list in general. :-) However, for _everyone's_ reference, to temporarily stop mailing list delivery, send mail to with a message body of "SET BOC-L NOMAIL". When you want to restore mail delivery, you can send another mail message with "SET BOC-L MAIL" and everything will be back to normal. YnSSH(and sheepish)M, Ben From StevenTice at AOL.COM Sat Aug 2 23:30:14 1997 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 23:30:14 -0400 Subject: OFF: Prog Vote Message-ID: Somebody please zap this off to the voting site: My choices for three progressive albums: Yes--Tales From Topographic Oceans Genesis--The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway ELP--Brain Salad Surgery King Crimson's Larks' Tongues in Aspic was almost in there, too... SET From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Aug 3 01:10:17 1997 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 13:10:17 +0800 Subject: HW: Skew the vote (maybe OFF:) Message-ID: the mikster wrote: > > OK, I'm up for skewing the vote as best we can. I have two proper prog > albums I'll vote for (by Haze and The Enid) but we ought to decide on > a > proper prog Hawkwind album. What about Levitation? Or Hall of the MG? > What > do we reckon is the most prog HW? > I'd say it would have to be Warrior on the Edge of Time William From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Aug 3 01:20:30 1997 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 13:20:30 +0800 Subject: HW: Skew the vote (maybe OFF:) Message-ID: Hi all How about everyone writing about the most unusual prog rock albums they have come across. I can start th ball rolling by mentioning an album titled "Listen to the Band" by none other than the Glitterband (Yes. Gary's backing band). It may not go all the way as a prog rock album, since they had to keep something of their own commercial style on it, but it's there. By the way, does anyone know if "Consequences" by Godley & Creme is on CD???? William From ianfines at JUNO.COM Sun Aug 3 01:59:22 1997 From: ianfines at JUNO.COM (Ian R Fines) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 01:59:22 -0400 Subject: OFF: Prog Vote Message-ID: >My choices for three progressive albums: > >Yes--Tales From Topographic Oceans >Genesis--The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway >ELP--Brain Salad Surgery mine: Yes--Relayer ELP--Brain Salad Surgery Soft Machine--Third (is Canterbury really prog?) From monsieur at MYMAIL.NET Sun Aug 3 02:12:29 1997 From: monsieur at MYMAIL.NET (DAMON CAPEHART) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 01:12:29 -0500 Subject: HW: Wacky religious types vs. Hawkwind Message-ID: Heya... Preface: I am a Christian - a (mostly) SANE Christian who is neither "lunatic" nor "devout to the point of embarrassing foolishness". I am, however, writing something about a particular author who does fall into one or both of those categories; but he is by no means the norm. It is funny, though. A friend of mine seems to be under the impression that most of the bands that I listen to are evil and satanic and therefore the CDs ought to be either burned or broken or who knows what else. So I bought a few books - at Half Price Books, so no one would get royalties - by so-called Christian authors who try to show just how eeeeeevil so many bands supposedly are. So I found the following entry from "THE god OF ROCK", by Michael K. Haynes, published in 1982: ----- begin ----- HAWKWIND Hawkwind was launched in the late 1960's in London. In the beginning it was a very loose "perform anywhere for anything" kind of group. Their antics gained them a freak following in the Notting Hill area of London, and from there they became England's most popular psychedelic band. Of course, a couple of drug busts helped to cement their followers who were attached to the philosophy and lifestyle of the members of the group. They were hailed as "the people's band" and "the last of the true underground bands". The group's members immersed themselves in science fiction, keying on more spacey aspects of the last decade's music. Their specialty is the Space Ritual Road Show, complete with psychedelic lighting, piercing decibel level, and the worship of alien forces. On the cover of the album recorded live in Liverpool Stadium entitled "Space Ritual Live" [sic], there is a nude woman standing before two panthers. Her arms are outstretched before the gods (all sorts) as a bow encircles her with the all-seeing eye at the top. Her head is covered with snakes and astro signs... the group's message pictured. >From the rapid personnel changes of Hawkwind, Motorhead was formed. Their lastest [sic] album projects their ultimate desire...it is entitled "Masters of the Universe". ----- end ----- It's kind of funny how the guy doesn't even bother doing enough research to figure out that this "lastest album" is a best-of set that the band knew little about to begin with. Oh well. I may post the BOC entry a bit later. It has a bit more entertainment value. Damon C Capehart From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Sun Aug 3 04:09:14 1997 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff and Pam Wheaton) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 02:09:14 -0600 Subject: OFF: Prog Vote Message-ID: > > > >Yes--Tales From Topographic Oceans > >Genesis--The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > >ELP--Brain Salad Surgery > Yes--Relayer > ELP--Brain Salad Surgery > Soft Machine--Third (is Canterbury really prog?) Ok, I hafta throw in my 2 cents worth on this one: Eloy--Silent Cries & mighty Echoes Camel--Harbour of Tears Solaris--Marsebelli Kronikak ( Martian Chronicles) For HW-I hafta agree on Warrior on the Edge of Time:) Soft Machine-a description or a pointer to a sounds site for them? I'm curious:) Lets rock! Pam -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton ____/----^----\____ The greatest tool > > > >Yes--Tales From Topographic Oceans > >Genesis--The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > >ELP--Brain Salad Surgery > Yes--Relayer > ELP--Brain Salad Surgery > Soft Machine--Third (is Canterbury really prog?) When I was a lad, all the ELP/Yes/Genesis fans despised Hawkwind. And vice versa. What happened? - Andy -- mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Sun Aug 3 07:30:31 1997 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 21:30:31 +1000 Subject: RIP WSB Message-ID: Well, all of the Beat generation have now passed on. William Seward Burroughs passed on this today. He died in his sleep from a heart attack at 84. His influence on western culture was very large, and was a fantastic writer. William lived up to his motto: "We're all born to go". Rest in peace. - Max Wilcox From monsieur at MYMAIL.NET Sun Aug 3 08:53:16 1997 From: monsieur at MYMAIL.NET (DAMON CAPEHART) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 07:53:16 -0500 Subject: OFF: Prog Vote Message-ID: On Sun, 3 Aug 1997 11:09:28 +0100 Andrew Gilham wrote: >When I was a lad, all the ELP/Yes/Genesis fans despised Hawkwind. And vice >versa. What happened? Depends on when you were a lad... "Levitation" happened, for one. But I've no idea otherwise. Damon C Capehart From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Sun Aug 3 13:22:46 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 17:22:46 +0000 Subject: OFF: The brave men and women of the Oslo police In-Reply-To: <199708031253.HAA09862@mail.mymail.net> Message-ID: Well, I continue to surprise myself. This morning I was released from jail!! We were celebrating a friend's 30th birthday, and of course things got a little rowdy (we topped off a night of beer drinking with a large bottle of Johny Walker and shots of Vargtass (a kind of cranberry vodka)), and we headed out to continue our merriment after the neighbors had the police drop by, to put an end to that blaring Motorhead!! (sonic attack, anyone??) Well, at one place the doorman refused to let me in (because I'd had a few to many... in fact I'd earlier 'baptized' the the birthday guy in a whole 1/2 liter of beer!). So I then tried to force my way in... Immediatly I had three guys over me trying to force me to the ground, and eventually they did, with my arms held behind my back (I have bruises all over, my shoulders and wrists hurt like a bitch still), I laid there for half an hour with one guy sitting on top of me while they called the cops, and one friend kept trying to talk them into letting me go, but no, this was such a serious issue the law should be involved. So, I was righteously pissed, and when three police officers arrive to take me away even more so, they handcuffed (!) me and since I refused to enter the patrolcar they had to carry me into the back seat... So I'm screaming and yelling etc. all the way and they drag me out at the station, book me, take my belt, necklace, keys, wallet and cigarettes (which they *kept*, of course) and toss me in a tiny cell with no windows, or anything, just a floor and a hole to piss in. I kept going all night yelling insults, that they wouldn't have a job unless people like me paid taxes etc. etc. So next morning they let me out and informed me that I'd been charged with drunk and disorderly behavior, urinating in public and resisting arrest!! I __know__ I did not urinate there, but that's a common trick bouncers use so that people get arrested for sure - recently there's been several cases of violent bouncers, so that's what they do if they can't beat you up. The worst part is the fine of 2500 KR (about ? 230 or $ 300), and I'm taking it to court because it's ridiculous, unfair and I'm not paying it no matter what. So after that I get my stuff back (minus the smokes of course) and get tossed in a kind of waiting cell as they "do the paperwork", there were actually benches and some grafitti to look at at least. I'm in there for an hour before I can go because they "forgot" me there!!! Anyway, the punchline here is: as my last rite in jail, with a coin I scraped into the door in big bold letters..... "HAWKWIND"!!!! Bastards!! Christian ObSong: "Have You Ever Spent the Night In Jail?" - The Standells From PsychoGuy at AOL.COM Sun Aug 3 11:36:22 1997 From: PsychoGuy at AOL.COM (Bill Futreal) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 11:36:22 -0400 Subject: RIP WSB Message-ID: ...another monumental figure has left us...RIP WSB Bill http://www.mindspring.com/~futreal/boc.htm From ianfines at JUNO.COM Sun Aug 3 11:41:04 1997 From: ianfines at JUNO.COM (Ian R Fines) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 11:41:04 -0400 Subject: RIP WSB Message-ID: On Sun, 3 Aug 1997 21:30:31 +1000 Max Wilcox writes: > Well, all of the Beat generation have now passed on. > William Seward Burroughs passed on this today. He died in his >sleep from a >heart attack at 84. > His influence on western culture was very large, and was a >fantastic >writer. > William lived up to his motto: "We're all born to go". > Rest in peace. it's too bad Old Bull Lee has passed away...but just to think that the guy was doing some heavy heroin in the forties. From ianfines at JUNO.COM Sun Aug 3 11:46:22 1997 From: ianfines at JUNO.COM (Ian R Fines) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 11:46:22 -0400 Subject: OFF: Prog Vote Message-ID: >Soft Machine-a description or a pointer to a sounds site for them? I'm >curious:) go to the Canterbury: Calyx web site, where they have much info and many links pertaining to Soft Machine. They were formed in the later 60's by Kevin Ayers, Hugh Hopper, Daevid Allen, Mike Ratledge, and Robert Wyatt. At this point it was mainly rock, but Daevid was deported from England which resulted in a rapid change in the band. By the time _third_ had been released, Soft Machine was almost jazz...but sorta progressive too. After this album, the evolved into more straight jazz, with the addition of musicians such as Allan Holdsworth. From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sun Aug 3 11:54:20 1997 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 16:54:20 +0100 Subject: OFF : Julian Cope / Amon Duul etc. In-Reply-To: <01BC9F75.CD83FAE0@host5-99-51-60.btinternet.com> Message-ID: Andy wrote: >ObLP: Can - _Tago Mago_. From the sleeve notes: "The only outfit in >England with anything in common with them is Hawkwind, but again that is >inapposite. Hawkwind's sound is cleaner and more straightforward..." I take it that this is an original UA "envelope" version - my Spoon reissue doesn't have anything like that on it... ChrisW ObCD: Lou Reed...LIVE, IN CONCERT (excellent cheapie...) From fswof at AURORA.ALASKA.EDU Sun Aug 3 13:29:15 1997 From: fswof at AURORA.ALASKA.EDU (William Fuller) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 09:29:15 -0800 Subject: RIP WSB In-Reply-To: <19970803.114628.10886.0.IanFines@juno.com> Message-ID: > > William Seward Burroughs passed on this today. He died in his > >sleep from a heart attack at 84. Here it is, finally proof that drugs kill!! Sure it might take a while... -- William Fuller fswof at aurora.alaska.edu From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Sun Aug 3 14:48:56 1997 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 19:48:56 +0100 Subject: OFF : Julian Cope / Amon Duul etc. Message-ID: >>ObLP: Can - _Tago Mago_. From the sleeve notes: "The only outfit in >>England with anything in common with them is Hawkwind, but again that is >>inapposite. Hawkwind's sound is cleaner and more straightforward..." > >I take it that this is an original UA "envelope" version - my Spoon reissue >doesn't have anything like that on it... Well, *obviously*! What do you take me for - some johnny-come-lately bandwagon-hopper? :)) Actually, I got it second-hand in about '78. And a righteously fine album it is too! - Andy -- mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From alasdair.macdonald at VIRGIN.NET Sun Aug 3 17:11:00 1997 From: alasdair.macdonald at VIRGIN.NET (Alasdair Macdonald) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 22:11:00 +0100 Subject: RIP WSB Message-ID: It had to happen of course, just a surprise he lived to such a grand age. Bill enriched so much art created in the last 1/2 of this century, and suffered for it. Touching to see HW/BOCers are admirers too. Here's to a gentleman who changed our lives, never forgotten. Alasdair At 11:36 AM 03-08-97 -0400, you wrote: >...another monumental figure has left us...RIP WSB > >Bill >http://www.mindspring.com/~futreal/boc.htm > alasdair.macdonald at virgin.net From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sun Aug 3 18:21:43 1997 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 23:21:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: Prog Vote In-Reply-To: <01BC9FFD.D00286A0@host5-99-53-54.btinternet.com> Message-ID: At 11:09 03/08/97 +0100, you wrote: >> Soft Machine--Third (is Canterbury really prog?) We could debate that even beyond the release of "Ezekiel's Wheel" *snigger* Perhaps the real question is "Is Canterbury?" - The musicians involved mostly seem to reckon not... I personally think there are common sonic factors to most of the bands/players associated with the town and the Wilde Flowers, but whether it's a "school" or not, that's trickier... ChrisW ObGreatTitle: "If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You" (Caravan) From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Sun Aug 3 18:13:39 1997 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 23:13:39 +0100 Subject: OFF : Julian Cope / Amon Duul etc. In-Reply-To: <01BCA046.EC70C6A0@host5-99-52-199.btinternet.com> Message-ID: At 19:48 03/08/97 +0100, Andy wrote (re Tago Mago): >>I take it that this is an original UA "envelope" version - my Spoon reissue >>doesn't have anything like that on it... > >Well, *obviously*! What do you take me for - some johnny-come-lately bandwagon-hopper? :)) > >Actually, I got it second-hand in about '78. And a righteously fine album it is too! > >- Andy My Tago Mago might be a reissue, but my Monster Movie is original (I can still remember hearing John Peel play "Father Cannot Yell" in the days when his show was on Saturday afternoons - undoubtedly a life-changing experience) ChrisW ObWrongSpeedOnTheLabel: Vanishing Point - Primal Scream From gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU Sun Aug 3 18:58:17 1997 From: gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU (Guido Vacano) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 18:58:17 -0400 Subject: OFF: Prog Vote In-Reply-To: <970802233014_918030895@emout17.mail.aol.com> from "Steven Tice" at Aug 2, 97 11:30:14 pm Message-ID: SET sez-- > > Somebody please zap this off to the voting site: > > My choices for three progressive albums: > > Yes--Tales From Topographic Oceans > Genesis--The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > ELP--Brain Salad Surgery > > King Crimson's Larks' Tongues in Aspic was almost in there, too... My top three? King Crimson--Larks' Tongues in Aspic King Crimson--Starless and Bible Black King Crimson--Red Hmmm . . . think I see a pattern! :-) Guido -- If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse From corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET Sun Aug 3 21:42:56 1997 From: corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 21:42:56 -0400 Subject: Three albums Message-ID: Mine two centavos: Lamb Lies Down Uk (eponymous) Church of Hawkwind go forth Mike Habiby From flossbac at WCIC.ORG Sun Aug 3 21:58:06 1997 From: flossbac at WCIC.ORG (John Majka) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 20:58:06 -0500 Subject: RIP WSB Message-ID: It's certainly a sad day today knowing that one of the great literary figures of the twentieth century has passed. Everyone important will leave you in the end... Thanks Bill, you were one of the masters of the written word. John Majka flossbac at wcic.org From mordru at MAGG.NET Sun Aug 3 22:05:11 1997 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 22:05:11 -0400 Subject: Three albums Message-ID: Okay, everyone else is doing this: Genesis - Selling England by the Pound VDGG - The Least We Can do is Wave to Each Other Hawkwind - Warrior on the Edge of Time =================================== Roger Shrubstaff == To dwell within Samsara, however is Duchy of Silverwater = to be subject to the works of those http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm= who are mighty among dreamers. (Andrew A. Apold) == - Mahasamatman ==================================== From hawkus at HOTMAIL.COM Sun Aug 3 22:44:29 1997 From: hawkus at HOTMAIL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 19:44:29 PDT Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! Message-ID: Hello Hawkfans Bob Lennon here from Hawk-U.S./Time & Space with a new e-mail: hawkus at hotmail.com ALSO just got off the phone with news that LEMMY will be joining the Hawks for the August US tour. This is supposed to have been confirmed by Dave Brock himself also Capt. Rizz (the singer, not the band) is expected to be a special guest in the US .... This is getting interesting..... space is truly deep bl great cd: Pain Teens "Destroy Me, Lover" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From StevenTice at AOL.COM Mon Aug 4 00:09:57 1997 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 00:09:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: Prog Vote Message-ID: In a message dated 97-08-03 21:37:36 EDT, you write: << My top three? King Crimson--Larks' Tongues in Aspic King Crimson--Starless and Bible Black King Crimson--Red >> Yes, all great material! And Relayer is also on my top ten albums list, of course, and Tull's Thick as a Brick and Minstrel in the Gallery and probably Songs From the Wood...etc.... I must admit that I'm surprised how many progressive rock fans are lurking here on the BOC mailing list...then again, Bolle Gregmar (head of the BOC fan club) shocked me on the phone one day by telling me that BOC wasn't his favorite band, either...he said, "Who is yours?" I said, "Yes," and he said, "Ah, a man of good taste!" So if even the head of the fan club likes prog music, there must be SOMETHING going on here...hmmm.... By the way, I've yet to hear any Hawkwind, however... SET From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Mon Aug 4 04:25:26 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 08:25:26 +0000 Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! In-Reply-To: <199708040244.TAA11351@f11.hotmail.com> Message-ID: Bob Lennon informed: >LEMMY will be joining the Hawks for the August >US tour. >This is supposed to have been confirmed by Dave Brock >himself Okay that's it. I'm selling everything and heading over there. That's incredible!!! Now that Alan Davey has left the band.... heeheeeheee.... you never know!!??? 25 Days to scam my way across the Atlantic, Christian From chuck at GENESISNETWORK.NET Mon Aug 4 03:31:05 1997 From: chuck at GENESISNETWORK.NET (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 00:31:05 -0700 Subject: OFF: Prog Vote Message-ID: ---------- > > King Crimson--Larks' Tongues in Aspic > King Crimson--Starless and Bible Black > King Crimson--Red > > Hmmm . . . think I see a pattern! :-) > > Guido > > -- > If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse Ooh, now I don't feel so bad for voting: Camel -- Mirage Camel -- Moon Madness Camel -- The Snow Goose Charlie From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Mon Aug 4 06:48:13 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 10:48:13 +0000 Subject: OFF: Prog Vote/Jethro Tull In-Reply-To: <970804000320_-1306332209@emout03.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: At 00:09 04.08.97 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 97-08-03 21:37:36 EDT, you write: > >I must admit that I'm surprised how many >progressive rock fans are lurking here on the BOC mailing list...then again, >Bolle Gregmar (head of the BOC fan club) shocked me on the phone one day by >telling me that BOC wasn't his favorite band, either...he said, "Who is >yours?" I said, "Yes," and he said, "Ah, a man of good taste!" So if even >the head of the fan club likes prog music, there must be SOMETHING going on >here...hmmm.... > >By the way, I've yet to hear any Hawkwind, however... > >SET It's probably a safe bet to say that among HW fans there are more prog fans and BOC more metalheads, but both bands are original/weird enough to have a large crossover appeal into all camps... If you are a metalhead looking to sample Hawkwind, try Live Chronicles or Space Ritual. Proggers may want to go for Hall Of The Mountain Grill, Warrior On The Edge Of Time, Levitation or Electric Tepee. Punks go for PXR5 or California Brainstorm. But really I can't say I can categorize any as either! It's just the closest to conventional categories they come... ah, my vote ... Hawkwind/Warrior On The Edge of Time Hawkwind/Quark, Strangeness & Charm Gong/Angel's Egg I voted for 2 HW albums just for the hell of it (and for the list!), I would probably have switched Warrior for Van Der Graaf Generator/Godbluff or Amon Duul II/Carnival In Babylon.... but oh well :) On the subject of Jethro Tull, I'm surprised no one brought up Too Old To Rock'n'Roll, Too Young To Die. That has to be my favorite of what I have (not that many, but other than that, Broadsword & The Beast, Songs From The Wood and M.U. The Best Of.... plus I have a partial dub of the 25 Years set...). I absolutely *love* TOTR'n'R/TYTD, and it's the sweetest little story of any concept album... plus it's got a great Dave Gibbons cartoon! I also like the fact that most of the music is fairly straightforward with an emphasis on good, straight songwriting rather than longer "experimental" stuff.... definetly in my top 5 of prog... Christian ObProgFromTheVault: Marillion _Fugazi_ From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Aug 4 04:57:18 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 09:57:18 +0100 Subject: OFF: Prog Vote In-Reply-To: <01BC9FFD.D00286A0@host5-99-53-54.btinternet.com> Message-ID: In article <01BC9FFD.D00286A0 at host5-99-53-54.btinternet.com>, Andrew Gilham writes >When I was a lad, all the ELP/Yes/Genesis fans despised Hawkwind. And vice >versa. What happened? > >- Andy Punk? -- Jon Browne From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Aug 4 04:55:06 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 09:55:06 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970804082526.006b78e0@online.no> Message-ID: >Bob Lennon informed: > >>LEMMY will be joining the Hawks for the August >>US tour. >>This is supposed to have been confirmed by Dave Brock >>himself Well, Blimey, that *is* good news! But aren't Motorhead out at the same time? I know they play Brixton only a week or so away from the Sheperd's Bush gig. -- Jon Browne From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Mon Aug 4 07:17:32 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:17:32 +0000 Subject: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle.... Message-ID: I've always wondered what the excact meaning of this british expression is! I know this much: a Bob used to be a penny or something, and has come to mean a quid I believe... But what does the whole expression "Bob's Yer Uncle" mean???? Anyone care to explain :)? The british have the coolest slang! Christian ObEveryone'sCoolUncle: Captain Bob C. From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Aug 4 06:04:24 1997 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:04:24 +0100 Subject: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle.... Message-ID: > I've always wondered what the excact meaning of this british expression is! "Right you are", "there you go", that sort of thing. Brewer's says: "That will be all right, you needn't bother any more. In use in the 1880s but of unknown origin." Not to be confused with "how's your father". Ooh missus! > I know this much: a Bob used to be a penny or something, and has come to > mean a quid I believe... A shilling, actually. Really only survives in those Scottish beers, Ninety Bob (90/-), etc. >The british have the coolest slang! Coolest *everything*, my boy! :) - Andy -- mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Mon Aug 4 03:46:02 1997 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff and Pam Wheaton) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 01:46:02 -0600 Subject: OFF: Prog Vote Message-ID: > > > Camel -- Mirage > Camel -- Moon Madness > Camel -- The Snow Goose > > Charlie Oh yeah-nice choices there guy!! heres my 3fer:Eloy: Power & the Passion Eloy: Ra Eloy: Dawn and all the rest of them too! PAm -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton ____/----^----\____ The greatest tool from "Chuck Rosenberg" at Aug 4, 97 00:31:05 am Message-ID: Charlie says-- > Ooh, now I don't feel so bad for voting: > > Camel -- Mirage > Camel -- Moon Madness > Camel -- The Snow Goose I'll agree with you on Mirage--what a tremendous album! Moon Madness is good, but I'd have to favor Rain Dances over The Snow Goose for my top three Camel albums. Guido -- If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 4 07:51:36 1997 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. 6L6) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 07:51:36 EDT Subject: BOC: Fireworks over CNY Message-ID: > From: Torgo > > Hey folks: > > I just found out that BOC will be appearing at the FIREWORKS OVER CENTRAL > NY show at Vernon Downs Racetrack in Vernon (near Utica). Tickets are 5 bucks. > > For those not familiar, its an all day fest with bands, skydivers, rides, > and all that hoo-ha. I caught Thorogood there a few years ago. Other bands > on this years bill include... > > Little Feat > Matchbox 20 > Govenment Mule (with Warren Hanes) (saw them 2 years ago, they smoke) > and a pile of others I have never heard of. > > I'll probably be there at least for BOC, possibly Mule. > This is incredible! When is it, Torgo? This event is not to be missed. The best fireworks I've ever seen. Last year, the group who did the Olympics fireworks show did the one at Vernon! theo From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Mon Aug 4 09:00:17 1997 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig Shipley) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 09:00:17 -0400 Subject: OFF: Prog Vote Message-ID: The good Doctor Guido sez... Charlie says-- > Ooh, now I don't feel so bad for voting: > > Camel -- Mirage > Camel -- Moon Madness > Camel -- The Snow Goose I'll agree with you on Mirage--what a tremendous album! Moon Madness is good, but I'd have to favor Rain Dances over The Snow Goose for my top three Camel albums. Guido Dang, Doc, we agree on a lot of stuff!! (except the part about Rain Dances over Snow Goose, that is...) Have you heard any of the live releases that Camel Productions have been releasing? Great discs, especially Never Let Go and the new Live In 82 (killer version of Lunar Sea, complete with NASA dialogue; now I know who pioneered the use of the NASA samples!) I assume that you two are on the Camel mailing list? (It was written up in yesterdays' Atlanta Journal Constitution, in the Personal Technology section on how the Internet is helping promote lesser known bands. Too bad that the HW mailing list couldn't get this type of exposure...). Lemme know if you want to join or want the e-mail address... obCDPlayer : VA : The Truth Is Twisted -- If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse From sonique at MAIL.PCMICRO.COM.AU Mon Aug 4 09:13:05 1997 From: sonique at MAIL.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Sonique) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 23:13:05 +1000 Subject: HW/OFF: Underground Zero Message-ID: A while back some folk were asking about UZ. I don't know at the time if a website was mentioned, but here's the URL of the official one: http://users.powernet.co.uk/rix/ Sonique -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique //// '~ ( --- they sonique at mail.pcmicro.com.au /////// : ; --- Fly! From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Mon Aug 4 09:10:20 1997 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig Shipley) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 09:10:20 -0400 Subject: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle.... Message-ID: Andy sez... (CHOMP!) >The british have the coolest slang! Coolest *everything*, my boy! :) 'Cept for yer beer, boy, 'cept for your beer!!! (I actually like my beer served at the proper temperature, except when it is summer and I have to have a cold Budmilloors; can't spoil a good micro- brew by freezing it! obJealous if I wasn't married: Buddy of mine in the office is getting a one-year assignment with my company to London for British Telecom. At least I can hit him up for some CD's on his visits back to the States. Hey, you blokes in London are getting a Hooters in October! (I think this made his decision to go easier! ;-)). Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com - Andy -- mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Aug 4 06:37:28 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:37:28 +0100 Subject: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle.... In-Reply-To: <01BCA0C6.332D3220@host5-99-46-201.btinternet.com> Message-ID: In article <01BCA0C6.332D3220 at host5-99-46-201.btinternet.com>, Andrew Gilham writes >>The british have the coolest slang! > >Coolest *everything*, my boy! :) Reminds me off a Beck interview I read recently. Seems the lad is particularly enamoured with English swearwords, such as Tosspot or Ringpiece. His special favorite is Bugger! Rum fellow. and Robert is indeed your uncle. -- Jon B From kfrazier at NCSA.UIUC.EDU Mon Aug 4 10:20:43 1997 From: kfrazier at NCSA.UIUC.EDU (Keith Frazier) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 09:20:43 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! In-Reply-To: <199708040244.TAA11351@f11.hotmail.com> Message-ID: Can someone please post the tour dates and venues. Keith At 07:44 PM 8/3/97 PDT, you wrote: >Hello Hawkfans >Bob Lennon here from Hawk-U.S./Time & Space >with a new e-mail: hawkus at hotmail.com > >ALSO just got off the phone with news that >LEMMY will be joining the Hawks for the August >US tour. >This is supposed to have been confirmed by Dave Brock >himself >also Capt. Rizz (the singer, not the band) is expected >to be a special guest in the US .... > >This is getting interesting..... >space is truly deep >bl > >great cd: Pain Teens "Destroy Me, Lover" > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > From Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU Mon Aug 4 10:30:34 1997 From: Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU (Doug Bates) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 09:30:34 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! Message-ID: > ALSO just got off the phone with news that > LEMMY will be joining the Hawks for the August > US tour. > > Yes, I got a similar call last night just before going to bed. I > was so excited it took me a while to go to sleep. This is a > Hawkfans dream come true. One can now only hope Born to > Go and Lord of Light will be played. Hopefully, Nik will join in > at Summer Daze too. > > As it stands now these are the US dates (from memory): > > Aug 24 Cubby Bears Chicago IL > Aug 26 Phantasy Lakewood, OH > Aug 29 Coney Island High NY,NY > Aug 30/31 Summer Daze Sherman, NY > > Anyone from the Chicago area who can help me procure tickets > please email me. I look for these show to sell out quickly. > > This is supposed to have been confirmed by Dave Brock > himself > also Capt. Rizz (the singer, not the band) is expected > to be a special guest in the US .... > > This is getting interesting..... > space is truly deep > bl > > -- > Doug Bates > voice:(205) 934-9087 fax:(205) 975-7129 > mailto:dbates at uab.edu > From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Mon Aug 4 12:41:36 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 16:41:36 +0000 Subject: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jon writes: >Reminds me off a Beck interview I read recently. Seems the lad is >particularly enamoured with English swearwords, such as Tosspot or Hmmm...... can you explain this one? Toilet perhaps?? Possibly related to the more american "tossing the cookies"? >Ringpiece. Well, this one has some bizarre sexual overtones no?? Is it, uh, eh... er.. a piece of the female anatomy? Or a contraceptive device maybe?? > His special favorite is Bugger! Ah, that is a good one. Pretty much the same as the F word, no? As in "Bugger me, bloke! Those bobbies are taking that bloody wanker off to gaol, pass the lager and fish 'n' chips and Bob's yer uncle, matey!" Or as in "I say Old McDonald, I believe you have commited sordid acts of unspeakable buggery! Blimey! It's raining cats and dogs! And Bob's yer uncle, matey!" >Rum fellow. I like that one! > >and Robert is indeed your uncle. >-- Righto, old chap, and yours too. >Jon B Ensign C. Lemon curry? From paul at GROMIT.CS.VT.EDU Mon Aug 4 11:10:36 1997 From: paul at GROMIT.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:10:36 -0400 Subject: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle.... In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970804164136.00699074@online.no> Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Christian wrote: > "Bugger me, bloke! Those bobbies are taking that bloody wanker off to gaol, > pass the lager and fish 'n' chips and Bob's yer uncle, matey!" Why Christian, I do declare you are beginning to sound just like a native! Arfur Daley would be proud, indeed. ;-) Cor blimey, duckin' 'n' divin', apples and pears, swift kick to the orchestras, an all that... :-) Cheers, Paul. obCD: Laibach, _Sympathy for the Devil_ e-mail: paul at gromit.cs.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From brianh at PULLEYN.COM Mon Aug 4 11:07:52 1997 From: brianh at PULLEYN.COM (Brian Halligan) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:07:52 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! Message-ID: Is Sherman, NY South of Buffalo? I remember a rumour about a show down there, but I've been spacing-out on this thread for awhile. It would be incredible to see Lemmy with HW at my 1st ever HW show! ObGreatDeal: Live 79 CD $5.00. They also had Friends & Relations, White Zone, MM & Deep Fix in the import bin at my local mall. It's the 1st time I've seen 79 and MM in my area. Brian -----Original Message----- From: Doug Bates [SMTP:Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU] Sent: Monday, August 04, 1997 10:31 AM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! > ALSO just got off the phone with news that > LEMMY will be joining the Hawks for the August > US tour. > > Yes, I got a similar call last night just before going to bed. I > was so excited it took me a while to go to sleep. This is a > Hawkfans dream come true. One can now only hope Born to > Go and Lord of Light will be played. Hopefully, Nik will join in > at Summer Daze too. > > As it stands now these are the US dates (from memory): > > Aug 24 Cubby Bears Chicago IL > Aug 26 Phantasy Lakewood, OH > Aug 29 Coney Island High NY,NY > Aug 30/31 Summer Daze Sherman, NY > > Anyone from the Chicago area who can help me procure tickets > please email me. I look for these show to sell out quickly. > > This is supposed to have been confirmed by Dave Brock > himself > also Capt. Rizz (the singer, not the band) is expected > to be a special guest in the US .... > > This is getting interesting..... > space is truly deep > bl > > -- > Doug Bates > voice:(205) 934-9087 fax:(205) 975-7129 > mailto:dbates at uab.edu -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3060 bytes Desc: not available URL: From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 4 11:18:47 1997 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. 6L6) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:18:47 EDT Subject: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle.... Message-ID: > From: Paul Mather > On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Christian wrote: > > > "Bugger me, bloke! Those bobbies are taking that bloody wanker off to gaol, > > pass the lager and fish 'n' chips and Bob's yer uncle, matey!" > > Why Christian, I do declare you are beginning to sound just like a > native! Arfur Daley would be proud, indeed. ;-) > > Cor blimey, duckin' 'n' divin', apples and pears, swift kick to the > orchestras, an all that... :-) > > Cheers, > > Paul. > Christian, When was the last time your medication was adjusted? theo From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Mon Aug 4 13:31:04 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 17:31:04 +0000 Subject: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle.... In-Reply-To: <192F187F16@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: >> >Christian, >When was the last time your medication was adjusted? >theo I adjust my own medication, theo. Christian From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Mon Aug 4 15:15:09 1997 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 20:15:09 +0100 Subject: OFF: Prog Vote In-Reply-To: <9708032258.AA15194@beaver.mbb.wesleyan.edu> Message-ID: At 18:58 03/08/97 -0400, you wrote: >> King Crimson's Larks' Tongues in Aspic was almost in there, too... > >My top three? > >King Crimson--Larks' Tongues in Aspic >King Crimson--Starless and Bible Black >King Crimson--Red > >Hmmm . . . think I see a pattern! :-) > >Guido I could live with that selection.... ChrisW From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Mon Aug 4 15:17:36 1997 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 20:17:36 +0100 Subject: OFF: Prog Vote In-Reply-To: <19970804073003918.AAA211@herbrose> Message-ID: At 00:31 04/08/97 -0700, you wrote: >---------- >> >> King Crimson--Larks' Tongues in Aspic >> King Crimson--Starless and Bible Black >> King Crimson--Red >> >> Hmmm . . . think I see a pattern! :-) >> >> Guido >> >> -- >> If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse > >Ooh, now I don't feel so bad for voting: > >Camel -- Mirage >Camel -- Moon Madness >Camel -- The Snow Goose > >Charlie > Sad Saaad Saaaaad ChrisW From ianfines at JUNO.COM Mon Aug 4 17:21:42 1997 From: ianfines at JUNO.COM (Ian R Fines) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 17:21:42 -0400 Subject: OFF: Prog Vote Message-ID: >King Crimson--Larks' Tongues in Aspic >King Crimson--Starless and Bible Black >King Crimson--Red what about Lizard? From ianfines at JUNO.COM Mon Aug 4 17:28:59 1997 From: ianfines at JUNO.COM (Ian R Fines) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 17:28:59 -0400 Subject: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle.... Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:17:32 +0000 Christian writes: >I've always wondered what the excact meaning of this british >expression is! >I know this much: a Bob used to be a penny or something, and has come >to >mean a quid I believe... But what does the whole expression "Bob's Yer >Uncle" mean???? Anyone care to explain :)? The british have the >coolest slang! >Christian my friends and I call marijuana "bob" when in public...an example would be: "Eric, would you like to have a quick hit of this BOB i have here?" or "pass the bob" or "hide the BOB" or, in any bad situation: "swallow the BOB dammit, and here, swallow the pipe too..." From ianfines at JUNO.COM Mon Aug 4 17:34:47 1997 From: ianfines at JUNO.COM (Ian R Fines) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 17:34:47 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! Message-ID: On Sun, 3 Aug 1997 19:44:29 PDT Bob Lennon writes: >Hello Hawkfans >Bob Lennon here from Hawk-U.S./Time & Space >with a new e-mail: hawkus at hotmail.com > >ALSO just got off the phone with news that >LEMMY will be joining the Hawks for the August >US tour. >This is supposed to have been confirmed by Dave Brock >himself >also Capt. Rizz (the singer, not the band) is expected >to be a special guest in the US .... > >This is getting interesting..... >space is truly deep >bl Wait...all of a sudden this is a tour??? I only see four dates, which can't really label this as any sort of a tour. Is Lemmy going to be at all shows (esp. Cleveland for me)? From hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM Mon Aug 4 19:00:33 1997 From: hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM (Randy) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 18:00:33 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! In-Reply-To: <318C69E47E41D011B0A500A0246B48A601358C@TUCCster.TUCC.uab.e du> Message-ID: >> Anyone from the Chicago area who can help me procure tickets >> please email me. I look for these show to sell out quickly. >> Hi, I just called the cubby bear and was told that tickets are going to be sold at the door. unless the lady on the phone did not know what she was talking about?? The phone # for the cubby bear is (773) 327-1662 -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Randy,USA,Planet Earth,The Milky Way Galaxy,Through The Void hawkwind at interaccess.com http://homepage.interaccess.com/~hawkwind/universe.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Mon Aug 4 19:47:49 1997 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 01:47:49 +0200 Subject: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle.... Message-ID: tjenixen There was a slang discussion last year some time and I remember that someone posted the adress of a website on that topic... Does anyone recognize that??? I would appreciate if someone could mail me (or the list) that one again. mvh -Daniel "Vad? jultraditioner? Hos oss har vi nya traditioner varje ?r" (CG) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN +46 480 245 11 From hawkus at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Aug 4 20:54:29 1997 From: hawkus at HOTMAIL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 17:54:29 PDT Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! Message-ID: >>ALSO just got off the phone with news that >>LEMMY will be joining the Hawks for the August >>US tour. >>This is supposed to have been confirmed by Dave Brock >>himself >>also Capt. Rizz (the singer, not the band) is expected >>to be a special guest in the US .... >> >>This is getting interesting..... >>space is truly deep >>bl > >Wait...all of a sudden this is a tour??? I only see four dates, which >can't really label this as any sort of a tour. Is Lemmy going to be at >all shows (esp. Cleveland for me)? OH tour...did i say tour ....here insert whatever word you'd prefer for the four dates:____________ sorry i'm not an educated man .... too many geniuses.... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From sprawl at STARLINX.COM Mon Aug 4 20:56:54 1997 From: sprawl at STARLINX.COM (Ron Jennings) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 20:56:54 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! Message-ID: Ian R Fines wrote: > > Wait...all of a sudden this is a tour??? I only see four dates, which > can't really label this as any sort of a tour. Is Lemmy going to be at > all shows (esp. Cleveland for me)? tour: (n,v) a jaunt from one place to another with multiple stops in between. ok, so its a mini tour. so what? =) anyway, my wife just booked lemmy's flight from la to cleveland on aug 22. so i guess that means yes. ;) rj From ianfines at JUNO.COM Mon Aug 4 21:28:19 1997 From: ianfines at JUNO.COM (Ian R Fines) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 21:28:19 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! Message-ID: >>Wait...all of a sudden this is a tour??? I only see four dates, >which >>can't really label this as any sort of a tour. Is Lemmy going to be >at >>all shows (esp. Cleveland for me)? > >OH tour...did i say tour ....here insert whatever > >word you'd prefer for the four dates:____________ > >sorry i'm not an educated man .... too many geniuses.... sorry to offend you...maybe i'm just a little mad that the Hawks aren't hitting more cities? Or maybe i'm just mad because i can't make the Strange Daze? it's just that i've never been aware of HW coming to the US just to play four dates before. maybe they shouldn't have left it up to the fans to promote.....but if they hadn't, they would have probably been ripped off like they always are. go figure...20 dates and losing cash, or 4 dates and maybe coming out even? From hawkus at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Aug 4 21:40:12 1997 From: hawkus at HOTMAIL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 18:40:12 PDT Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! Message-ID: (EDT) >Received: (from ianfines at juno.com) by m11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) >From: Ian R Fines >Subject: Re: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > >>>Wait...all of a sudden this is a tour??? I only see four dates, >>which >>>can't really label this as any sort of a tour. Is Lemmy going to be >>at >>>all shows (esp. Cleveland for me)? >> >>OH tour...did i say tour ....here insert whatever >> >>word you'd prefer for the four dates:____________ >> >>sorry i'm not an educated man .... too many geniuses.... > >sorry to offend you...maybe i'm just a little mad that the Hawks aren't >hitting more cities? Or maybe i'm just mad because i can't make the >Strange Daze? > >it's just that i've never been aware of HW coming to the US just to play >four dates before. maybe they shouldn't have left it up to the fans to >promote.....but if they hadn't, they would have probably been ripped off >like they always are. > >go figure...20 dates and losing cash, or 4 dates and maybe coming out >even? no offense taken ... agreed .. it would be nice to have more dates...i'm gonna get what i can out of the whole thang.. bl ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From hawkus at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Aug 4 21:47:33 1997 From: hawkus at HOTMAIL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 18:47:33 PDT Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! Message-ID: >From: Ian R Fines >Subject: Re: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > >>>Wait...all of a sudden this is a tour??? I only see four dates, >>which >>>can't really label this as any sort of a tour. Is Lemmy going to be >>at >>>all shows (esp. Cleveland for me)? tour: (toor) n. 1. A trip or rambling excursion. 2. A circuit or passing through, as for inspection or sightseeing, or for presenting a performance. 3. A turn or shift, as of service. --on tour Travelingfrom place to place giving performances, as a theatrical company etc. ...see what you started Ron... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From emm14 at COLUMBIA.EDU Mon Aug 4 21:56:05 1997 From: emm14 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Erin Marie Moore) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 21:56:05 -0400 Subject: RIP WSB In-Reply-To: <199708031130.VAA13999@nargun.cc.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: On Sun, 3 Aug 1997, Max Wilcox wrote: > Well, all of the Beat generation have now passed on. > William Seward Burroughs passed on this today. He died in his sleep from a > heart attack at 84. > His influence on western culture was very large, and was a fantastic > writer. > William lived up to his motto: "We're all born to go". > Rest in peace. > > - Max Wilcox > > > One of the best jobs I ever had was working at a bookstore. I can't begin to explain the learning experience. The best day I ever had at work was the day William Burroughs came to sign books. It was my duty to hand him the books to be signed. He was on top of everything, he rembered someone he had not seen in five or six years. We supplied him with Vodak and Coca Cola as that was what he chose to drink. Half a bottle was left at the end and he was good enough to sign it for me. He was truly a fantastic writer and an extraordinary person always quick with a lyrical verse. I had hoped one day I'd get to see him at a reading but I guess not this time around. Sorry to go on so long I remain Adam From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Mon Aug 4 22:34:03 1997 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 04:34:03 +0200 Subject: OFF:List members Message-ID: hi I just checked number of subscribers and right now we are 266 persons (...well maybe 260 'cos some of you have subscribed with two mail-adresses...) and the number of Swedes on the list are 9 which makes us to the third largest group. that's all folks... ...now I _have_ to go home and get some sleep before I collapse... mvh -Daniel "Vad? jultraditioner? Hos oss har vi nya traditioner varje ?r" (CG) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN +46 480 245 11 From monsieur at MYMAIL.NET Tue Aug 5 00:41:36 1997 From: monsieur at MYMAIL.NET (DAMON CAPEHART) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 23:41:36 -0500 Subject: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle.... Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:10:36 -0400 Paul Mather wrote: >On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Christian wrote: >> "Bugger me, bloke! Those bobbies are taking that bloody wanker off to >> gaol, pass the lager and fish 'n' chips and Bob's yer uncle, matey!" > [...] >Cor blimey, duckin' 'n' divin', apples and pears, swift kick to the >orchestras, an all that... :-) Um, ... Gear! Damon P.S.: I had a professor a couple of years ago teach us some Cockney. She taught us "'Op up the apples an' brin' dahn me weepers!". Oh, you British dudes with yer wacky rhyming games. (translation of above quote for the Americans, most of whom probably don't know what I just said: "Hop up the stairs and bring down my pillows.") From gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU Mon Aug 4 23:24:09 1997 From: gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU (Guido Vacano) Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 23:24:09 -0400 Subject: OFF: Prog Vote In-Reply-To: <01BCA0B4.D77ECC60@dynamic-46.async.pyramid.com> from "Craig Shipley" at Aug 4, 97 09:00:17 am Message-ID: Craig sez-- > Guido > > Dang, Doc, we agree on a lot of stuff!! (except the part about Rain Dances > over Snow Goose, that is...) Have you heard any of the live releases that > Camel Productions have been releasing? Great discs, especially Never Let Go > and the new Live In 82 (killer version of Lunar Sea, complete with NASA > dialogue; now I know who pioneered the use of the NASA samples!) Dammit Craig, I'm trying to cut back on my CD purchases! :-) Gonna have to look into these--bye bye cash! I haven't really kept up with Camel (as evidenced by the fact that I have no Camel CDs--only LPs), but I would appreciate it if you'd send me the subscribe address for the list. I have recently "rediscovered" Renaissance (the King Biscuit recordings)--maybe Camel should be next! Guido obCDplayer--Album of the Year by Faith No More -- If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Tue Aug 5 05:05:00 1997 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:05:00 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! In-Reply-To: Ian R Fines' mail of Mon, 4 Aug 97 17:34 -0400 Message-ID: What's happened to Ron? If Lemmy is playing bass and Capt. Rizz is singing, that doesn't leave much for Ron to do... Dave. On Sun, 3 Aug 1997 19:44:29 PDT Bob Lennon writes: >Hello Hawkfans >Bob Lennon here from Hawk-U.S./Time & Space >with a new e-mail: hawkus at hotmail.com > >ALSO just got off the phone with news that >LEMMY will be joining the Hawks for the August >US tour. >This is supposed to have been confirmed by Dave Brock >himself >also Capt. Rizz (the singer, not the band) is expected >to be a special guest in the US .... > >This is getting interesting..... >space is truly deep >bl -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Mayfield Road, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. Tel: +44 131 472 4782 From torgo at NORWICH.NET Tue Aug 5 06:20:46 1997 From: torgo at NORWICH.NET (Torgo) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 06:20:46 -0400 Subject: BOC: Fireworks over CNY Message-ID: Hey... Theo said... >This is incredible! When is it, Torgo? This event is not to be >missed. The best fireworks I've ever seen. Last year, the group who >did the Olympics fireworks show did the one at Vernon! Oh man, I forgot to put the date! Its sunday, August 17th. Don't have any idea what time it starts, last time I was there at 11am and the first band was already on. August 17 Vernon Downs Advance tickets $5.00 (at any Nice & Easy store) See ya there. Torgo has left the building...... torgo at norwich.net ***************************************************************** "It's the nexus of the crisis, and the origin of storms, Just a place to hopelessly encounter time and then came me."" ***************************************************************** From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Tue Aug 5 07:38:26 1997 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig Shipley) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 07:38:26 -0400 Subject: OFF: Prog Vote Message-ID: Go to the Camel WWW page and sign up there... http://www.roadkill.com/Camel. You can buy the CD's from Gary on the Artist Shop page, but you can also buy direct from Camel Productions (and maybe even get an autographed CD from Andy Latimer!). The latest studio CD, Harbour Of Tears is a great bit of Irish- inspired prog music (tells the tale of Irish immigrants leaving home to come to the New World). Not electronic like the older Camel releases, but Latimer is at one of his finest moments on this one. (I happened to be a bit biased towards Irish music, for some unknown reason...) Have fun, Craig ---------- From: Guido Vacano[SMTP:gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU] Sent: Monday, August 04, 1997 11:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: OFF: Prog Vote Craig sez-- > Guido > > Dang, Doc, we agree on a lot of stuff!! (except the part about Rain Dances > over Snow Goose, that is...) Have you heard any of the live releases that > Camel Productions have been releasing? Great discs, especially Never Let Go > and the new Live In 82 (killer version of Lunar Sea, complete with NASA > dialogue; now I know who pioneered the use of the NASA samples!) Dammit Craig, I'm trying to cut back on my CD purchases! :-) Gonna have to look into these--bye bye cash! I haven't really kept up with Camel (as evidenced by the fact that I have no Camel CDs--only LPs), but I would appreciate it if you'd send me the subscribe address for the list. I have recently "rediscovered" Renaissance (the King Biscuit recordings)--maybe Camel should be next! Guido obCDplayer--Album of the Year by Faith No More -- If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse From ben at ST-CANARD.SPC.EDU Tue Aug 5 10:00:42 1997 From: ben at ST-CANARD.SPC.EDU (Ben Cohen) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:00:42 -0400 Subject: ADMIN: An amusing/interesting note and my reply Message-ID: Usually, when someone chooses to unsubscribe from the list, they just drop off. One person chose to send me a message about why they were unsubscribing. Since I was in "one of those moods", I chose to response. As an amusement for everyone here, I include the original message (anonymized) and my response: >As moderator, I thought you might be interested in why I am >unsubscribing to the BOC-L today. My husband and I are big BOC fans >and have seen them perform in excess of 50 times. We listen to all their >albums. I subscribed because I thought I'd get some current info on their >itinerary. We are really interested in where and when they are playing. It >took me two weeks of research to find out who and what HAWKWIND is. >>From what I could find out, it appears they are a British band who is riding >the coat tails of BOC. I am not interested in Hawkwind so I am >unsubscribing. Even though I tried to confine my subscription to BOC >only, many of the numerous messages are about Hawkwind or other >groups. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to weed through all that. It is >too bad the real BOC fans couldn't stick to the subject. I am only telling >you this as a courtesy and not trying to upset or anger anyone. I would >appreciate it if you take my message the same way. Good health to >you..... While I appreciate the comments, I'd like to make a couple of points about the list: 1) Hawkwind is most definitely _not_ a "British band who is riding the coat tails of BOC". They are merely another band that many of the subscribers also enjoy listening to and that tends to have a thematically similar musical content. 2) The original introduction to the list clearly points out that this is a high-traffic mailing list with regular fluctuations as to content. 3) Many of the subscribers to this list _are_ "real BOC fans", but most of us are sick-and-tired of the band deciding that the only thing they want to do for the rest of their (and our) lives is tour the country, hitting small clubs rather than actually getting into the studio and producing a new album. 4) If you wish to be a "drooling fan" (no insult intended), I recommend you find the BOC group on AOL where the band (or at least selected members) tend to hang out. In general, most of us on BOC-L are not appreciated there because: a) We tend to listen to what Al Bouchard has to say about the way the band broke up and not feel the need to kow-tow to Eric whenever he bad-mouths the Bouchard borthers. b) We are unrepentant about telling the band that they should get their minds and instruments in gear and give _the fans_ a new album rather than continually recycling the same stuff they've been playing for the last 10+ years. Ben Cohen, Moderator, BOC-L From sonique at MAIL.PCMICRO.COM.AU Tue Aug 5 10:02:06 1997 From: sonique at MAIL.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Sonic Bilby) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 00:02:06 +1000 Subject: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle.... Message-ID: Brits are colourful? What about us true blues? "Stone the Crows and Pickle me Grandmother - I found a freebie in my glug! And don't forget never to bod chonks from a fruit ...." (Just my 2c worth o 'strine) Sonique -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Sonic Bilby - Prog/Ambient/Space Rock Mail Order! -------- -------- PO Box 884, Mt Waverley, VIC 3149, Australia -------- -------- -------- -------- sonique at mail.pcmicro.com.au -------- ---------------------------------------------- http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/sb --------------------------------- From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Aug 5 10:10:59 1997 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 22:10:59 +0800 Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! Message-ID: > >Bob Lennon informed: > > > >>LEMMY will be joining the Hawks for the August > >>US tour. > >>This is supposed to have been confirmed by Dave Brock > >>himself > Maybe he might even come down under with them as well (and bring Motorhead with him)? I wonder if Nik'll join too??? William From micci at SCI.FI Tue Aug 5 10:28:07 1997 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 17:28:07 +0300 Subject: HW: Pseudo sun Message-ID: >It?s Pseudo Sun with Juha Nurmenniemi (ex bass-player in drax) Henrik, do you know does he speak finnish? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Just `cos you got the power Doesn?t mean you got the right /\/\ -Lemmy //\/\\ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _____//____\\_____ \\ // Miikka Wagner \\/\// hawk at micci.pp.sci.fi \/\/ http://www.sci.fi/~micci From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Tue Aug 5 10:32:59 1997 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:32:59 -0500 Subject: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle.... In-Reply-To: Daniel Wikdahl "Re: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle...." (Aug 5, 1:47am) Message-ID: > There was a slang discussion last year some time and I remember that > someone posted the adress of a website on that topic... > Does anyone recognize that??? > I would appreciate if someone could mail me (or the list) that one again. There are pretty good dictionaries at: http://www.peak.org/~jeremy/dictionary/dict.html and http://pages.prodigy.com/NY/NYC/britspk/main.html and, just to get this somewhat back on topic, my Golden Void site has a page of British words used in Hawkwind songs: http://www.enteract.com/~weil/golden_void/lyrics/dictionary.html Frank -- ============================================================================== Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 I think my new thing will be to try to be a real happy guy. I'll just walk around being real happy until some jerk says something stupid to me. -- Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey [SNL] From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Aug 5 10:37:00 1997 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 22:37:00 +0800 Subject: ADMIN: An amusing/interesting note and my reply Message-ID: Ben Cohen wrote: > > Usually, when someone chooses to unsubscribe from the list, they just > drop > off. One person chose to send me a message about why they were > unsubscribing. Since I was in "one of those moods", I chose to > response. As > an amusement for everyone here, I include the original message > (anonymized) > and my response: > > >As moderator, I thought you might be interested in why I am > >unsubscribing to the BOC-L today. My husband and I are big BOC fans > >and have seen them perform in excess of 50 times. We listen to all > their > >albums. I subscribed because I thought I'd get some current info on > their > >itinerary. We are really interested in where and when they are > playing. It > >took me two weeks of research to find out who and what HAWKWIND is. > >From what I could find out, it appears they are a British band who is > riding > >the coat tails of BOC. I am not interested in Hawkwind so I am > >unsubscribing. Even though I tried to confine my subscription to BOC > >only, many of the numerous messages are about Hawkwind or other > >groups. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to weed through all > that. It is > >too bad the real BOC fans couldn't stick to the subject. I am only > telling > >you this as a courtesy and not trying to upset or anger anyone. I > would > >appreciate it if you take my message the same way. Good health to > >you..... > > While I appreciate the comments, I'd like to make a couple of points > about > the list: > > 1) Hawkwind is most definitely _not_ a "British band who is riding the > coat > tails of BOC". They are merely another band that many of the > subscribers > also enjoy listening to and that tends to have a thematically similar > musical content. > Obviously this person hasn't bothered to properly investigate Hawkwind. Although I am primarily a HW fan, I can see no hassles in receiving news on BOC, etc.. It usually only takes a moment to discover if you want to read each e-mail (unless you receive 100's each day). I can see nothing wrong in people talking about their other interests. William From shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM Tue Aug 5 10:41:26 1997 From: shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:41:26 +0100 Subject: HW: Ron Tree's pat in Leeds Message-ID: >From a work colleague, who used to share a house with Ron :- In Leeds we were sharing with Ron Tree, bass guitarist with Plato's Jacuzzi and then Bastard...who is now lead singer with Hawkwind. He survived on a diet of potatoes mashed with marmite,onion bhajis from the Kagan Valley, and inordinate supplies of drugs. When Dirtbox Dave (the guitarist with Bastard) came to visit they liked nothing better than to plug their guitars in and give it "full dose" (their favourite saying). I would then appear very un-rock'n'roll by having to come out and tell them to keep the noise down 'cos i was trying to revise potential field systems. Still I got my 2:2 and got myself a job with Geco...and what's Ron doing now ? You know, if you take the touring the world, the drugs and the girls out of it ? Neil. From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 5 11:15:09 1997 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. 6L6) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 11:15:09 EDT Subject: ADMIN: An amusing/interesting note and my reply Message-ID: From: William Duffy > Obviously this person hasn't bothered to properly investigate Hawkwind. > > Although I am primarily a HW fan, I can see no hassles in receiving news > on BOC, etc.. It usually only takes a moment to discover if you want to > read each e-mail (unless you receive 100's each day). > > I can see nothing wrong in people talking about their other interests. > > William I agree with William. I'm a BOC fan, and don't have any HW discs [mainly 'cause you just don't see them around here--I do intend to get their stuff some day]. Yet I read all the posts to this list. The HW stuff is interesting, and the HW fans are very cool people. And, if the HW tour gets anywhere near my town, I'd love to see them. And this IS a HW and BOC list! Why the big surprise that there'e HW news to be found here? The only possible objection is stuff that's totally off-topic. People should clearly mark these as 'OFF:' But who would've wanted to delete Christian's war story about getting busted? theo From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Tue Aug 5 13:16:25 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 17:16:25 +0000 Subject: ADMIN: An amusing/interesting note and my reply In-Reply-To: <199708051401.KAA01507@st-canard.spc.edu> Message-ID: Anonymous "real BOC fan" writes: >>As moderator, I thought you might be interested in why I am >>unsubscribing to the BOC-L today. My husband and I are big BOC fans >>and have seen them perform in excess of 50 times. We listen to all their >>albums. Maybe they should get a badge of honor or something?? Get wax mannequins of themselves in BOC T-shirts, walkman's & holding tickets put up at Madame Tussaud's or the Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame???????? > I subscribed because I thought I'd get some current info on their >>itinerary. We are really interested in where and when they are playing. It >>took me two weeks of research to find out who and what HAWKWIND is. >>>From what I could find out, it appears they are a British band who is riding >>the coat tails of BOC. I am not interested in Hawkwind so I am >>unsubscribing. Puuuh-leeez!!!! There's barely much connection here, other than being somewhat sci-fi oriented heavy rock, and if they really need to know, some of Moorcock's material was used before BOC made songs out of them... Not that that matters, they are both great bands, both very original, intelligent and innovative in their own way. "On the coat tails of BOC"??? Hawkwind had released 2 or 3 albums by the time BOC put out their first. Again, why should it matter.... not that either bands sound much alike anyway. And if this person can't figure out how to set filters or unsubbing, is that really the admin's fault? Or any listmembers? If it took this person 2 full weeks to type "Hawkwind" in some search engine, look them up in a rock dictionary or go to a record store, OR JUST READ THE GODDAMN HAWKWIND POSTS THAT FLOODED THEIR MAILBOX, then this person is nothing less than a total and complete *dullard*. (boy, I love that word, has a nice archaic and snobbish ring to it!) > Even though I tried to confine my subscription to BOC >>only, many of the numerous messages are about Hawkwind or other >>groups. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to weed through all that. It is >>too bad the real BOC fans couldn't stick to the subject. I am only telling >>you this as a courtesy and not trying to upset or anger anyone. I would >>appreciate it if you take my message the same way. Good health to >>you..... Yeah, remember BOC fans: you are only REAL BOC FANS if A) you **only** listen to BOC **all the time** and have **all** their albums, have seen them live in every single dive from Paterson, NJ to Skokie, IL, and preferably base a marriage around it, B) have seen them over 50 times, and C) you are stupid enough to take offense at a lively and intelligent forum of good people, a forum that doesen't narrowly worship an old rock band around some obsessive cultish fantasy. (hey, I got my HW shrine, but I have to admit 40 % of it sucks!! :-). I don't think reading this makes anyone angry or upset, hell I thought it was a riot.... Wasn't there some heated discussion some time ago about AOL members calling BOC-L snobbish or elitist??? As true and intelligent as your reply was, I don't think any of it sank in.... (hey, that last sentence of mine WAS snobbish!! So was much of my other comment.... heehehehehe!) Christian >While I appreciate the comments, I'd like to make a couple of points about >the list: > >1) Hawkwind is most definitely _not_ a "British band who is riding the coat >tails of BOC". They are merely another band that many of the subscribers >also enjoy listening to and that tends to have a thematically similar >musical content. > >2) The original introduction to the list clearly points out that this is a >high-traffic mailing list with regular fluctuations as to content. > >3) Many of the subscribers to this list _are_ "real BOC fans", but most of >us are sick-and-tired of the band deciding that the only thing they want to >do for the rest of their (and our) lives is tour the country, hitting small >clubs rather than actually getting into the studio and producing a new album. > >4) If you wish to be a "drooling fan" (no insult intended), I recommend you >find the BOC group on AOL where the band (or at least selected members) tend >to hang out. In general, most of us on BOC-L are not appreciated there >because: > a) We tend to listen to what Al Bouchard has to say about the way the > band broke up and not feel the need to kow-tow to Eric whenever he > bad-mouths the Bouchard borthers. > b) We are unrepentant about telling the band that they should get their > minds and instruments in gear and give _the fans_ a new album rather > than continually recycling the same stuff they've been playing for the > last 10+ years. > > Ben Cohen, > Moderator, BOC-L From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Tue Aug 5 13:20:53 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 17:20:53 +0000 Subject: HW: Ron Tree's pat in Leeds In-Reply-To: <199708051441.PAA09701@achemar.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> Message-ID: At 15:41 05.08.97 +0100, you wrote: >>>From a work colleague, who used to share a house with Ron :- > > >In Leeds we were sharing with Ron Tree, bass guitarist with Plato's Jacuzzi >and then Bastard...who is now lead singer with Hawkwind. > >He survived on a diet of potatoes mashed with marmite,onion bhajis from >the Kagan Valley, and inordinate supplies of drugs. > >When Dirtbox Dave (the guitarist with Bastard) came to visit they liked nothing >better than to plug their guitars in and give it "full dose" (their favourite >saying). > >I would then appear very un-rock'n'roll by having to come out and tell them >to keep the noise down 'cos i was trying to revise potential field systems. > >Still I got my 2:2 and got myself a job with Geco...and what's Ron doing now ? >You know, if you take the touring the world, the drugs and the girls out of it ? > > > > > >Neil. > I see Neil The Hippy from The Young Ones eventually made something of himself and finally graduated from Scumbag College!!! :-) Great story BTW! Christian From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Tue Aug 5 13:24:08 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 17:24:08 +0000 Subject: Theo, (Re: ADMIN: An amusing/interesting note and my reply) In-Reply-To: <31202B6FF1@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: >I agree with William. I'm a BOC fan, and don't have any HW discs >[mainly 'cause you just don't see them around here--I do intend to >get their stuff some day]. Yet I read all the posts to this list. >The HW stuff is interesting, and the HW fans are very cool people. >And, if the HW tour gets anywhere near my town, I'd love to see them. > And this IS a HW and BOC list! Why the big surprise that there'e HW >news to be found here? The only possible objection is stuff that's >totally off-topic. People should clearly mark these as 'OFF:' But >who would've wanted to delete Christian's war story about getting >busted? >theo Hey theo, I had the impression you thought those aggro-rants were inappropriate for the list .... Did someone adjust your medication? :-) Christian From canders at WJH.HARVARD.EDU Tue Aug 5 11:39:53 1997 From: canders at WJH.HARVARD.EDU (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 11:39:53 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! In-Reply-To: <19970804.173454.15830.2.IanFines@juno.com> Message-ID: I see that I rejoined the list at the right moment ..... ;) Right, is anyone from the US Northeast (or anywhere else) going to be at either the Coney Island High, NY or the Strange Daze Festival shows? There's lots of info on tix for strange days on the HW page, but does anyone know about geting tix for the NY show (Bill Stewart? :) I'm about to go to England for a couple of weeks and so will drop off the list again almost instantly but an keen to get information on this! Cheers, Carl From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 5 11:50:42 1997 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. 6L6) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 11:50:42 EDT Subject: Theo, (Re: ADMIN: An amusing/interesting note and my reply) Message-ID: From: Christian > > > Hey theo, I had the impression you thought those aggro-rants were > inappropriate for the list .... Did someone adjust your medication? :-) > > Christian Like you, I do my own adjusting! theo ps Could you send me your narrative about getting busted again if you saved it? I deleted it by mistake, and I want to show it to a friend of mine if you don't mind. From abrevard at SHL.COM Tue Aug 5 11:43:05 1997 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD Adrian R.) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:43:05 -0600 Subject: Off List Memebers Message-ID: Daniel>just checked number of subscribers and right now we are 266 persons (...well maybe 260 'cos some of you have subscribed with two mail-adresses...) and the number of Swedes on the list are 9 which makes us to the third largest group. that's all folks... ...now I _have_ to go home and get some sleep before I collapse... mvh -Daniel A couple of questions how and where did you get this number from? How did you get the group information? When I post I always get a receipt from the listserve, it says how many subscribers there are. As soon as I send this one I will post the receipt to the list. Interesting stuff. lil' ab "When a nice clean brain tumbles to the dirty street to lie among the discarded wrappers and spat out gum wads of wickedness, you can't just pick it and wash it off with soap and water; you gotta think it clean from the inside out." - The Tick OB cd - Never Surrender, Triumph From mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Aug 5 10:57:01 1997 From: mmje at MMJE.DEMON.CO.UK (Mark Edmonds) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:57:01 +0100 Subject: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Sonic Bilby writes >Brits are colourful? What about us true blues? > >"Stone the Crows and Pickle me Grandmother - I found a freebie in my >glug! And don't forget never to bod chonks from a fruit ...." > >(Just my 2c worth o 'strine) > >Sonique Brilliant! LOL! What do you do for an encore?! "Bob's Your Uncle" is an expression which sort of means nothing really and is a typical throw-away remark. The idea behind it is that Bob is an extremely common name so anyone can have an uncle called Bob (so happens I haven't) therefore the value of telling someone that they have an uncle called Bob is zero. So, Bob's your uncle, there you have it! Now someone tell me what the fuck "Stone the Crows" is all about please! From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Tue Aug 5 14:09:35 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 18:09:35 +0000 Subject: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Mark Edmonds enquires eloquently: >Now someone tell me what the fuck "Stone the Crows" is all about please! > Isn't it like "gee whiz", "hot dang", "wowie zowie", "golly gosh", "goddamn" etc.??? Like "Blimey!" right? Christian From abrevard at SHL.COM Tue Aug 5 12:08:04 1997 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD Adrian R.) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:08:04 -0600 Subject: off: list numbers Message-ID: Daniel as promised. >---------- >From: L-Soft list server at St. Peter's College, US >(1.8b)[SMTP:LISTSERV at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU] >Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 1997 11:53 AM >To: Adrian Brevard >Subject: Message ("Your message dated Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:43:05 -0600...") > >Your message dated Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:43:05 -0600 with subject "Off List >Memebers" has been successfully distributed to the BOC-L list (197 >recipients). lil' ab From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Tue Aug 5 12:51:32 1997 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig Shipley) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 09:51:32 PDT Subject: ADMIN: An amusing/interesting note and my reply In-Reply-To: <199708051401.KAA01507@st-canard.spc.edu>; from "Ben Cohen" at Aug 5, 97 10:00 am Message-ID: > > Usually, when someone chooses to unsubscribe from the list, they just drop > off. One person chose to send me a message about why they were > unsubscribing. Since I was in "one of those moods", I chose to response. As > an amusement for everyone here, I include the original message (anonymized) > and my response: > Y'know, maybe we outta post a disclaimer about this list: "If you are here strictly to read about BOC _or_ HW exclusively and are so close-minded to not want the cross-pollenization that the learned subscribers bring to this list about the "other" band, seriously re-think your rational for joining this list. Both bands have been catagorized as "the thinking persons' heavy-metal band" and, if you don't think, we do not want your input here. You will find it very uncomfortable here. We are not elitests here (hell, they let _me_ join!), but we do expect a certain amount of open-mindedness and tolerance for the ebb and flow of e-mails that pertain to the band of your primary interest. Anyways, it is all Steve Swanns' fault in the first place for this even to exist, so you at least know who to blame..." Ben did a great job a responding to the children that couldn't take it anymore. Sheesh, I wonder why they let some people on the 'Net... But, then again, BOC and HW are not my number one favorite bands, so what do I know (OK they are in the top ten). obCDPlayer: Alan Parsons Project / Gaudi -- -m------- Craig Shipley aka: craigs at pyramid.com ---mmm----- Siemens-Pyramid Information Systems -----mmmmm--- 1100 Johnson Ferry Rd. Suite 400 -------mmmmmmm- Atlanta, GA 30342 (404) 845-3404 From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Aug 5 12:34:24 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 17:34:24 +0100 Subject: ADMIN: An amusing/interesting note and my reply In-Reply-To: <33E73A8C.D7420DD7@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: In article <33E73A8C.D7420DD7 at iinet.net.au>, William Duffy writes >Obviously this person hasn't bothered to properly investigate Hawkwind. And neither do they want to. Fine. Bye! > >Although I am primarily a HW fan, I can see no hassles in receiving news >on BOC, etc.. It usually only takes a moment to discover if you want to >read each e-mail (unless you receive 100's each day). > >I can see nothing wrong in people talking about their other interests. The fact that I can talk with people who are similarly-minded without having to *only* talk about the one issue, makes BOC-L the great list it is. Which is why these folk didn't stick around. They weren't similarly- minded. This is the only thing on the 'net that I check every day. Virtually the only thing on the 'net I contribute to, and my posts here are the closest thing to an auto-biography *i'm* likely to write! Ben, you run an excellant list and it's an enclave of sanity I sure appreciate.......but then I'm here for the Hawkwind, so I would say that! > >William -- Jon B From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Tue Aug 5 13:22:44 1997 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 19:22:44 +0200 Subject: Off List Memebers Message-ID: Adrian: >A couple of questions how and where did you get this number from? >How did you get the group information? When I post I always get a >receipt from the listserve, it says how many subscribers there are. As >soon as I send this one I will post the receipt to the list. >Interesting stuff. > Just send this message: REVIEW BOC-L to the address LISTSERV at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU ...and you'll get a list of the subscribers plus their names. It's a strange thing though that our numbers not are the same... ...maybe "my" numbers are old... I dunno -but Hawkjoe is listed as a member and he unsubscribed a while ago. And there's also something else bothering me... there are 13 "concealed" subscribers... I wonder who they are and why they choose not to show their names and addresses. mvh -Daniel "Vad? jultraditioner? Hos oss har vi nya traditioner varje ?r" (CG) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN +46 480 245 11 From etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE Tue Aug 5 10:30:22 1997 From: etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE (Rob Stuckey) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 10:30:22 BST Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! Message-ID: >LEMMY will be joining the Hawks for the August >US tour. >This is supposed to have been confirmed by Dave Brock >himself I don't suppose they're playing in the Atlanta/New Orleans/ Memphis/Nashville area, which is where I'll be after the 1st of September? Too much to ask for I suppose. bye - Rob From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Tue Aug 5 15:50:51 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 19:50:51 +0000 Subject: HW: Ron Tree's pat in Leeds In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970805172053.006bed2c@online.no> Message-ID: Neil Shilladay wrote: >>>>From a work colleague, who used to share a house with Ron :- >> >>He survived on a diet of potatoes mashed with marmite,onion bhajis from >>the Kagan Valley, and inordinate supplies of drugs. >>Neil. I wrote: >I see Neil The Hippy from The Young Ones eventually made something of >himself and finally graduated from Scumbag College!!! :-) > >Great story BTW! Oops! Bummer! I didn't see your name on the post and assumed the guy rooming with these characters and wrote the tale was called Neil, not *you*.... it all fell together like something out of the classic sitcom... BTW, Shilladay is a cool name.... Where did you get it? Ireland??? Where do I apply? Christian From paul at GROMIT.CS.VT.EDU Tue Aug 5 14:01:51 1997 From: paul at GROMIT.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 14:01:51 -0400 Subject: Off List Memebers In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19970805172244.00917714@mailbox.mc.hik.se> Message-ID: On Tue, 5 Aug 1997, Daniel Wikdahl wrote: > And there's also something else bothering me... there are 13 "concealed" > subscribers... > I wonder who they are and why they choose not to show their names and addresses. I am two of those 13 "concealed" subscribers. I choose to have my e-mail address hidden from the list given out in response to a REVIEW command to lessen the possibility of it falling into the hands of spammers. Of course, the fact the archives appear on the WWW sort of defeats that strategy (since I actually post to the list)... Btw, the difference in numbers that AB sees may be due to the number of people getting a digested version of the list probably being lower than the total number of subscribers. He may be seeing the number of "digest" subscribers. Oh, and the number of subscribers is also reported when you read the online archives via the WWW. Cheers, Paul. obCD: Can, _Tago Mago_ e-mail: paul at gromit.cs.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Tue Aug 5 14:23:08 1997 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 20:23:08 +0200 Subject: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle.... Message-ID: At 06:09 PM 8/5/97 +0000, you wrote: >Mark Edmonds enquires eloquently: > >>Now someone tell me what the fuck "Stone the Crows" is all about please! >> > >Isn't it like "gee whiz", "hot dang", "wowie zowie", "golly gosh", >"goddamn" etc.??? Like "Blimey!" right? > >Christian > > I think "Down" (Anselmo from Pantera and Keenan from Corrosion of Conformity and a few other guys) has a song called "Stone the Crow". I've always thought it had something to do with drugs... I feel a little bit stupid now. -Daniel "Vad? jultraditioner? Hos oss har vi nya traditioner varje ?r" (CG) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN +46 480 245 11 From sprawl at STARLINX.COM Tue Aug 5 14:28:03 1997 From: sprawl at STARLINX.COM (Ron Jennings) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 14:28:03 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! Message-ID: Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: > > I see that I rejoined the list at the right moment ..... ;) > > Right, is anyone from the US Northeast (or anywhere else) going to > be at either the Coney Island High, NY or the Strange Daze Festival shows? > > There's lots of info on tix for strange days on the HW page, but > does anyone know about geting tix for the NY show (Bill Stewart? :) tix for coney island high are available from the club (i think) and from ticketmaster. see ya there carl. rj > > I'm about to go to England for a couple of weeks and so will drop > off the list again almost instantly but an keen to get information on this! > > Cheers, > Carl From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Tue Aug 5 14:37:29 1997 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig Shipley) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 11:37:29 PDT Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! In-Reply-To: <9708050930.AA09337@etldp10h>; from "Rob Stuckey" at Aug 5, 97 10:30 am Message-ID: > > >LEMMY will be joining the Hawks for the August > >US tour. > >This is supposed to have been confirmed by Dave Brock > >himself > > I don't suppose they're playing in the Atlanta/New Orleans/ > Memphis/Nashville area, which is where I'll be after the > 1st of September? Too much to ask for I suppose. > > bye - Rob > Gee, Rob, that covers a lot of territory. You gonna have a base of operations somewheres? (FWIW, Memphis to Atlanta is about a 6+ hour drive, with Nawlins being further.) You moving in 'round here? Didn't see anything out there about Hotlanta being on the tour list... -- -m------- Craig Shipley aka: craigs at pyramid.com ---mmm----- Siemens-Pyramid Information Systems -----mmmmm--- 1100 Johnson Ferry Rd. Suite 400 -------mmmmmmm- Atlanta, GA 30342 (404) 845-3404 From gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU Tue Aug 5 15:07:21 1997 From: gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU (Guido Vacano) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:07:21 -0400 Subject: ADMIN: An amusing/interesting note and my reply In-Reply-To: <199708051401.KAA01507@st-canard.spc.edu> from "Ben Cohen" at Aug 5, 97 10:00:42 am Message-ID: Bravo Ben!! :-) Guido -- If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse From canders at WJH.HARVARD.EDU Tue Aug 5 17:10:59 1997 From: canders at WJH.HARVARD.EDU (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 17:10:59 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! In-Reply-To: <33E770B3.BC39CD0A@starlinx.com> Message-ID: At 2:28 PM -0400 8/5/97, Ron Jennings wrote: >Carl Edlund Anderson wrote: >> There's lots of info on tix for strange days on the HW page, but >> does anyone know about geting tix for the NY show (Bill Stewart? :) > >tix for coney island high are available from the club (i think) and from >ticketmaster. see ya there carl. I sure hope to make it! I'm contacting my sister, who's a music tech person in NYC these days about getting tix. She's hip to go as well, though I forgot to pass her the gig date in my initial excitement. ha det bra, Carl From hawkus at HOTMAIL.COM Tue Aug 5 17:40:31 1997 From: hawkus at HOTMAIL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 14:40:31 PDT Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! Message-ID: >On Sun, 3 Aug 1997 19:44:29 PDT Bob Lennon writes: >>Hello Hawkfans >>Bob Lennon here from Hawk-U.S./Time & Space >>with a new e-mail: hawkus at hotmail.com >> >>ALSO just got off the phone with news that >>LEMMY will be joining the Hawks for the August >>US tour. >>This is supposed to have been confirmed by Dave Brock >>himself >>also Capt. Rizz (the singer, not the band) is expected >>to be a special guest in the US .... >> >>This is getting interesting..... >>space is truly deep >>bl >From: Dave Berry >Subject: Re: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >What's happened to Ron? If Lemmy is playing bass and Capt. Rizz >is singing, that doesn't leave much for Ron to do... > >Dave. Hmmm....very interesting.... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From PsychoGuy at AOL.COM Tue Aug 5 17:45:47 1997 From: PsychoGuy at AOL.COM (Bill Futreal) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 17:45:47 -0400 Subject: ADMIN: An amusing/interesting note and my reply Message-ID: well, I read ALL the posts every day and I'm subscribed to the list from AOL and I also read the AOL boards....geez... :-). But seriously, I find the posts on BOC-L to be good reading and I usually leave with a lot of good information and viewpoints...and that's really the object of being a mailing list subscriber. BOC-L is definitely a top-notch list, IMO. Bill http://www.mindspring.com/~futreal/boc.htm From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Tue Aug 5 18:28:37 1997 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 23:28:37 +0100 Subject: ADMIN: An amusing/interesting note and my reply In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970805171625.006c3ff4@online.no> Message-ID: At 17:16 05/08/97 +0000, you wrote: >then this person is >nothing less than a total and complete *dullard*. (boy, I love that word, >has a nice archaic and snobbish ring to it!) A good "woody" word even Cheers Targuin Fin-Tin-Bim-Ftang-Ftang-Ole-Biscuit-Barrel (or something like that) P.S. How does one get the clothes orf a debutante? From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Tue Aug 5 18:32:22 1997 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 23:32:22 +0100 Subject: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 15:57 05/08/97 +0100, you wrote: >In article , Sonic Bilby > writes >>Brits are colourful? What about us true blues? >> >>"Stone the Crows and Pickle me Grandmother - I found a freebie in my >>glug! And don't forget never to bod chonks from a fruit ...." >> >>(Just my 2c worth o 'strine) >> >>Sonique > >--snip--< > >Now someone tell me what the fuck "Stone the Crows" is all about please! > I thought they were a band with Maggie Bell & Les Harvey (Alex's kid brother) *stoopid grin* ChrisW ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "A man must go on a quest to discover the sacred fire in the sanctuary of his own belly to ignite the flame in his heart to fuel the blaze in the hearth to rekindle his ardor for the earth." ? Sam Keen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Tue Aug 5 18:54:00 1997 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 18:54:00 -0400 Subject: ???? LEMMY ????? Message-ID: Just received word that Lemmy is NOT yet confirmed to join Hawkwind for the August USA Tour. Although initial confirmations were made by Dave Brock himself, there seem to be a couple of problems to be sorted out. Keep you posted as to when actual contracts are signed. regards, Bill Stewart From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Tue Aug 5 21:16:59 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 01:16:59 +0000 Subject: ADMIN: An amusing/interesting note and my reply In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970805232837.007c1e00@mcmail.com> Message-ID: At 23:28 05.08.97 +0100, you wrote: >At 17:16 05/08/97 +0000, you wrote: > >>then this person is >>nothing less than a total and complete *dullard*. (boy, I love that word, >>has a nice archaic and snobbish ring to it!) > >A good "woody" word even Er... an erection?? Woody Woodpecker??? (Coco for Co-Co-Puffs? Trix Are For Kids? Loony Toons Crack for inner city housing project kids???????????) >Cheers >Targuin Fin-Tin-Bim-Ftang-Ftang-Ole-Biscuit-Barrel (or something like that) huh..... Fin-Fang-Foom?? >P.S. How does one get the clothes orf a debutante? No idea, but I betcha don't know how you get a russian prostitute pregnant! Let me know how to get the clothes orf a debutante! ObSignOfGettingOldInYour20's: passing out in front of the TV after only 8 beers. ObWakingUpToTVHorror: Jerry Springer wears Armani suits and there's no escape from Tom Brokaw even in Europe. ObStrangeFact: "Korg" spelled backwards is "Grok"! From MYSTICDEAN at AOL.COM Tue Aug 5 19:41:53 1997 From: MYSTICDEAN at AOL.COM (Dean Ciardi) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 19:41:53 -0400 Subject: ???? LEMMY ????? Message-ID: how do i get off this mailing list From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Tue Aug 5 22:59:30 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 02:59:30 +0000 Subject: OFF: G-rated posts..... In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970806011659.006b39d8@online.no> Message-ID: Sorry people, I better shape up or ship out! Christian (how do I get one of those alco-test blowers installed on my machine???) From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Wed Aug 6 04:53:25 1997 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Rich Lockwood) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 09:53:25 +0100 Subject: BOC: Seabright NJ, 27th August Message-ID: Greetings all. I've just resubscribed to the list for one reason (I only came off after getting hassle at work for the volume of mail!), and that's that I understand that BOC are playing in Seabright NJ on 27th August. I'm going to New York 23rd August - 6th September, and I think (please tell me if I'm wrong) that this will be the nearest BOC gig over this period. Can anyone tell me how far Seabright is from NYC, how feasible getting there would be, how I'd get a ticket, and finally, if anyone else is going and would fancy meeting up for a few beers beforehand... If anyone can help, could you please email me at richard.lockwood at tpd.co.uk ? (I'm fairly sure this wouldn't be of interest to the rest of the list!) Many thanks, Cheers, Rich. ** Even men with steel hearts love to see a dog on the pitch ** From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Aug 5 13:04:40 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 18:04:40 +0100 Subject: HW: Ron Tree's pat in Leeds In-Reply-To: <199708051441.PAA09701@achemar.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> Message-ID: In article <199708051441.PAA09701 at achemar.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com>, Neil Shilladay writes >He survived on a diet of potatoes mashed with marmite, Mmmmmm, potatoes mashed with marmite, mmmmmm!! -- Homer Browne From etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE Wed Aug 6 10:14:13 1997 From: etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE (Rob Stuckey) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 10:14:13 BST Subject: Hawkwind NEWSFLASH: LEMMY !!!!! Message-ID: >> I don't suppose they're playing in the Atlanta/New Orleans/ >> Memphis/Nashville area, which is where I'll be after the >> 1st of September? Too much to ask for I suppose. >> >>> bye - Rob >> >Gee, Rob, that covers a lot of territory. You gonna have a base of >operations somewheres? (FWIW, Memphis to Atlanta is about a 6+ hour >drive, with Nawlins being further.) You moving in 'round here? > >Didn't see anything out there about Hotlanta being on the tour list... > Hi Craig, Well, we're hiring a car and driving around for three weeks. I heard that Eat Static (ex-Ozrics) and System 7 (Steve Hillage) are playing in Atlanta on the 5th of Sept in the Big Top Tour. I'm currently in negotiations with my travelling friends who hate techno to see if we can be in or around Atlanta at that time. Do you know of anything else on around then? bye - Rob From sonique at MAIL.PCMICRO.COM.AU Wed Aug 6 09:56:07 1997 From: sonique at MAIL.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Sonique) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 23:56:07 +1000 Subject: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle.... Message-ID: On 5 Aug 97 at 18:09, Christian wrote: > Mark Edmonds enquires eloquently: > > >Now someone tell me what the fuck "Stone the Crows" is all about please! > > > > Isn't it like "gee whiz", "hot dang", "wowie zowie", "golly gosh", > "goddamn" etc.??? Like "Blimey!" right? Pretty much exactly what it means (ie - nothing) S -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique //// '~ ( --- they sonique at mail.pcmicro.com.au /////// : ; --- Fly! From sonique at MAIL.PCMICRO.COM.AU Wed Aug 6 10:02:29 1997 From: sonique at MAIL.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Sonique) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 00:02:29 +1000 Subject: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle.... Message-ID: On 5 Aug 97 at 15:57, Mark Edmonds wrote: > writes > >Brits are colourful? What about us true blues? > > > >"Stone the Crows and Pickle me Grandmother - I found a freebie in my > >glug! And don't forget never to bod chonks from a fruit ...." > > > >(Just my 2c worth o 'strine) > > > >Sonique > > Brilliant! LOL! What do you do for an encore?! I think I've just about used up all the more colourful phrases I could think of (besides all the ones which are also common in Britain) > "Bob's Your Uncle" is an expression which sort of means nothing really > and is a typical throw-away remark. Same down under. It's most common use here is precede with "and" used in a context of describing how to do something "and then it will work/your finished/whatever". I know what I mean if no-one else does .... > The idea behind it is that Bob is an extremely common name so anyone can > have an uncle called Bob (so happens I haven't) therefore the value of > telling someone that they have an uncle called Bob is zero. > > So, Bob's your uncle, there you have it! "there you have it" is what I was looking for ... > Now someone tell me what the fuck "Stone the Crows" is all about please! It means anything you want it too .... ;^) S. -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique //// '~ ( --- they sonique at mail.pcmicro.com.au /////// : ; --- Fly! From MCINTYRE at PA.MSU.EDU Wed Aug 6 12:21:56 1997 From: MCINTYRE at PA.MSU.EDU (John McIntyre) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 12:21:56 -0400 Subject: OFF: Fish 30/7/97 Toronto Message-ID: >From: Jill Douglas >Glad to see the Fish review. He wasnt on rare form that night, he is >ALWAYS that good. Oh yeah? What about _For Whom The Bells Toll_ then? (-8 John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre at pa.msu.edu From flossbac at WCIC.ORG Wed Aug 6 16:15:05 1997 From: flossbac at WCIC.ORG (John Majka) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 15:15:05 -0500 Subject: HW at Cubby Bear, Chicago IL Message-ID: All right, who's the knuckle head who booked Hawkwind at the Cubby Bear of all places? Of all the clubs in Chicago, this is the one that seems least amenable to the Hawks. The Cubby Bear, for those who don't know, is basically a sports bar right across the street from Wrigley Field (home of the Cubs, thus the name). The stage is rather small and so is the venue itself. The primary focus is sports and alcohol. True to nature, Cubby Bear has done nothing to promote this show thus far. In fact, the Chicago Shows List, a list which faithfully reports every upcoming musical event in the Chicago area, regardless of size, does not even have this show listed. Tickets will not be available at ticketmaster. There are no fliers. Hawkwind played here in 1990 and I almost didn't see the show because it wasn't advertised etc. and the only reason I found out was because a friend of mine was in Chicago the day before and saw the Hawkwind name on the marquee. Now when the Hawks played Park West in 1995, for example, there were newspaper adverts, the listing appeared on shows lists, there were fliers everywhere and even full-color event posters available at record stores around town. The Park West is about 4 times the size of Cubby Bear and I would say it was damn near filled to capacity. If this Cubby Bear show gets advertised it will certainly sell out, but it probably won't be advertised so there's nothing to worry about. Hawkwind should play a club instead of a bar. Plus the sound at Cubby Bear kind of sucks compared to a good venue like, say, Metro or Lounge Ax or Double Door etc. John Majka flossbac at wcic.org From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Wed Aug 6 16:51:01 1997 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 22:51:01 +0200 Subject: OFF: test -ignore Message-ID: phh, phh,one, two, one, two, one, two, phh, phh... etc "Vad? jultraditioner? Hos oss har vi nya traditioner varje ?r" (CG) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN +46 480 245 11 From videofest at MEDIOPOLIS.DE Wed Aug 6 18:10:09 1997 From: videofest at MEDIOPOLIS.DE (VideoFest Berlin) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 00:10:09 +0200 Subject: Calvert & HW - Real (STREAMING) Audio / new e-mail address / updates Message-ID: hi there I finally found out how to turn all those Real Audio Files on the Calvert web-site into TRULY STREAMING files - i.e. you just wait 3-4 seconds - while your computer grabs your hopefully installed Real Audio player and there you go - immediately - no matter how long / big the acutal file is. so, from now on ALL audio files are streaming - click and listen. as this is quite a handy device more of these files will follow soon - incl. some quite rare recordings -for a change- so be aware of some WWW-premieres. CHANGE OF E-MAIL / UPDATES....: i am in the process of getting a new account etc - therefore I'll be more or less off-line for about 2 weeks - but working on "the spirit of the p/age" behind the scenes... the new e-mail address will be: kg at thing.de in the meantime please continue to use: kg at mediopolis.de DON'T use videofest at mediopolis anymore - this one is no longer valid. major updates and additions are under construction - heaps of new material have reached me - more on this in 2 -3 weeks. there are also plans for a CALVERT TRIBUTE album...more new on this later on.... best, k. gerwers transmedia 10. VideoFest c/o Podewil Klosterstr. 68-70 D - 10179 Berlin PLEASE NOTE OUR NEW PHONE / FAX NUMBERS: phone: (*49) *30 - 24 72 19 07 fax: (*49) *30 - 24 72 19 09 e-mail: videofest at mediopolis.de http://www.mediopolis.de/videofest/ From shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM Thu Aug 7 05:06:00 1997 From: shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM (Neil Shilladay) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 10:06:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Drac-fest Whitby, Eng 24/9/97 Message-ID: I was bored enough to be reading Teletext last night, & happened upon an article that claims there is to be a festival of music to celebrate the 100th anniversary of the publishing of 'Dracula'. Venue is somewhere near Whitby, N Yorks. Bands listed included: The Damned HAWKWIND Alien Sex Fiend ( + some others I've since forgotten). Does anyone know any more about this (somewhat bizarre) fest ? Neil the hippy. From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Thu Aug 7 07:50:49 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 11:50:49 +0000 Subject: HW: Drac-fest Whitby, Eng 24/9/97 In-Reply-To: <199708070906.KAA15895@achemar.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> Message-ID: Neil the Hippy wrote: >Bands listed included: > >The Damned >HAWKWIND >Alien Sex Fiend > >( + some others I've since forgotten). Hmm.. Hawkwind goes goth? Time for Brock to dig out that cool skeleton outfit then? I guess "Steppenwolf" should be revived on their set list too.... Christian From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Thu Aug 7 07:57:20 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 11:57:20 +0000 Subject: HW: Capt. Rizz Message-ID: I've seen this person mentioned touring with Hawkwind before and now apparantly *in* the band for the US tour... so... Who's Captain Rizz? ...and Where's Captain Kirk? Christian From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Thu Aug 7 07:05:00 1997 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 12:05:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Drac-fest Whitby, Eng 24/9/97 In-Reply-To: Neil Shilladay's mail of Thu, 7 Aug 97 10:06 +0100 Message-ID: This presumably replaces the Leicester gig, which is still listed as "to be confirmed" on the web site. I see the Scottish venues have been announced. Hooray! Now I just have to find out where the "Liquid Rooms" are. Dave. On 07 Aug 10:06, Neil Shilladay wrote: > I was bored enough to be reading Teletext last night, & happened upon an article that claims there is to be a festival of music to celebrate the 100th > anniversary of the publishing of 'Dracula'. Venue is somewhere near Whitby, N > Yorks. > > Bands listed included: > > The Damned > HAWKWIND > Alien Sex Fiend > > ( + some others I've since forgotten). > > > Does anyone know any more about this (somewhat bizarre) fest ? > > Neil the hippy. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Mayfield Road, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. Tel: +44 131 472 4782 From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Thu Aug 7 08:04:54 1997 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 08:04:54 -0400 Subject: HW: Drac-fest Whitby, Eng 24/9/97 Message-ID: Other bands at the Drac fest are The Stranglers, Crazy World Of Arthur Brown plus a few more goth waste-of-times. Oh, and the Liquid Room is what used to be the Music Box in Victoria St. Dave >This presumably replaces the Leicester gig, which is still listed as >"to be confirmed" on the web site. > >I see the Scottish venues have been announced. Hooray! Now I just have >to find out where the "Liquid Rooms" are. > >Dave. > >On 07 Aug 10:06, Neil Shilladay wrote: >> I was bored enough to be reading Teletext last night, & happened upon an article that claims there is to be a festival of music to celebrate the 100th >> anniversary of the publishing of 'Dracula'. Venue is somewhere near Whitby, N >> Yorks. >> >> Bands listed included: >> >> The Damned >> HAWKWIND >> Alien Sex Fiend >> >> ( + some others I've since forgotten). >> >> >> Does anyone know any more about this (somewhat bizarre) fest ? >> >> Neil the hippy. >-- >Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, >Mayfield Road, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. >Tel: +44 131 472 4782 > > From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Aug 7 08:57:05 1997 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 13:57:05 +0100 Subject: BOC: Oysters, Wagons and the Manband Message-ID: Carl and Tania stopped by last night on the way to Cropredy... anyway, I read them this excerpt from Deke Leonard's memoirs, _Rhinos, Winos and Lunatics_, and they said to me, "you must post it to the list!" So here goes: "The new tour started in New York, and it was a doozy. The Blue Oyster Cult, REO Speedwagon, and us [Man]. The plan was that the Blue Oyster Cult would headline on the East Coast where they were most popular, REO Speedwagon would take over top billing in the Mid-West, their heartland, and we would move to the top of the pile on the West Coast, where, apparently, we were the bee's knees. Whichever genius though up this little gem was a simpleton of the highest order. Someone who must have thought - if they thought at all - that artistic ego was an abstract. Someone for whom the folding of a map was an intellectual pursuit. It was catastrophe in waiting. "The first night of the tour the Oysters commandeered all three dressing rooms provided, forcing us and the Wagons to change in corridors and broom-cupboards. We established bi-lateral solidarity against the common enemy. The seeds of revolution were sown. We didn't talk to the Oysters and they didn't talk to us. "REO Speedwagon were brilliant, full of flair and invention. We watched them from the wings, oozing solidarity. "Until I saw the Oysters, I thought the Moody Blues were the worst band in the world. The Oysters were almost supernaturally ungifted. Their hair was neatly groomed and they wore stay-pressed jeans. The tallest was five foot three. At the climax of their set all the band, including the drummer, put on guitars, stood in a line across the front of the stage and strummed furiously. It was pitiful. And the crowd loved it. "By the time we got to the Mid-West scuffles had begun to break out but REO Speedwagon moved to the top of the bill and we breathed a sigh of relief. "REO Speedwagon immediately commandeered all three dressing rooms provided, forcing us and the Oysters to change in corridors and broom-cupboards. We established bi-lateral solidarity against the common enemy. The seeds of revolution were sown. We didn't talk to REO Speedwagon and they didn't talk to us. "We listened to REO Speedwagon with fresh ears. Not only did they suffer from a complete absence of imagination, the most that could be said of them was that they shuffled cliches in a most tiresome manner. It was pathetic. And the crowd loved it. "Astonishingly, we had also misjudged the Oysters. We realised that what we had taken to be dreary leaden riffs were really cascades of shimmering elementalism, simple to the point of eloquence. And at the climax of their set they did this great thing where they all stood in a line across the front of the stage and all played guitar. Even the drummer. It was inspiring." "...three days later, amid scenes of acrimony, rancour and malevolence, the tour collapsed under the weight of our collective egos." - Andy -- mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From sprawl at STARLINX.COM Thu Aug 7 09:06:16 1997 From: sprawl at STARLINX.COM (Ron Jennings) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 09:06:16 -0400 Subject: HW: Capt. Rizz Message-ID: capt rizz is the front man for the band capt rizz. saw them a couple of times.alan davey discovered them. the original guitarist for CR is now Bedouin's guitarist. the shows were decent, a good opener for hawkwind.not that they sound anything remotely like hw. personally, i can't imagine captrizz _IN_ hawkwind, tho alan did guest in capt rizz. so thats about all i know. except that capt kirk is still happily trapped in the NEXXUS. rj Christian wrote: > > I've seen this person mentioned touring with Hawkwind before and now > apparantly *in* the band for the US tour... so... > > Who's Captain Rizz? > > ...and Where's Captain Kirk? > > Christian From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Thu Aug 7 09:20:44 1997 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (M R Godwin) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 14:20:44 +0100 Subject: BOC: Oysters, Wagons and the Manband In-Reply-To: <01BCA339.E23F64C0@host5-99-45-28.btinternet.com> Message-ID: Excellent story, Andy! What year are we talking about here? Did you see in the Independent on Sunday there was an extract from a new book on the Clash by Johnny Green(?) concerning their introduction to Sandy Pearlman and BOC. Pearlman tries to get into a Clash gig, introduces himself to the bouncer as their new producer, and gets beaten up and thrown out! - Mike Godwin From abrevard at SHL.COM Thu Aug 7 09:36:03 1997 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD Adrian R.) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 07:36:03 -0600 Subject: Moderator/Stale Message-ID: >As moderator, I thought you might be interested in why I am >unsubscribing to the BOC-L today. My husband and I are big BOC fans >and have seen them perform in excess of 50 times. We listen to all their >albums. I subscribed because I thought I'd get some current info on their >itinerary. We are really interested in where and when they are playing. It >took me two weeks of research to find out who and what HAWKWIND is. >>From what I could find out, it appears they are a British band who is riding >the coat tails of BOC. I am not interested in Hawkwind so I am >unsubscribing. Even though I tried to confine my subscription to BOC >only, many of the numerous messages are about Hawkwind or other >groups. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to weed through all that. It is >too bad the real BOC fans couldn't stick to the subject. I am only telling >you this as a courtesy and not trying to upset or anger anyone. I would >appreciate it if you take my message the same way. Good health to >you..... Sorry but my mail is all hosed up and I just saw this. Amusing little piece. As I am prone to playing "Devil's Advocate" I can somewhat sympathize with what these people are talking about. Years ago when I joined the list I had never, ever heard of Hawkwind. To an outsider who discovers this list by way of UBL or through a BOC WEBSITE the expectation is that this is primarily a BOC list. What a shock the HW posts must be. Still if newbies would approach HW with an open mind they would find: 1. HW fans on this list are very helpful with explaining HW to newbies 2. HW is a band with a rich and interesting history 3. HW fans on this list have a great sense of humor 4. HW can just farkin' play Maybe beyond the instructions of how to post, use of the filters etc., there should be a disclaimer regarding all of the bands. "The primary content of this list covers Hawkwind, Blue Oyster Cult and The Brain Surgeons. Subscribers should be aware that there is little or no connection between HW and BOC. There is a direct connection between the Brain Surgeons and BOC however there is no official affiliation. Conversations are normally separate and unrelated. With HW most discussions are current, intelligent and far reaching as there are several related groups, former members and tours which are not considered off topic. Brain Surgeon discussions are much the same, current, factual information with the added attraction of having Al Bouchard as a list member. Mr. Bouchard is amenable to answering direct questions when he has sufficient time to participate. DISCLAIMER - For those of you seeking fanboy adulation, current progress of new albums, and general current news for the band Blue Oyster Cult, leave now, you've come to the wrong place. While BOC conversations fluctuate you will find list members will discuss the bands progress or lack thereof honestly. This is not a temple of worship, no band discussed on this list is beyond criticism, questioning or flaming. We have two rules, no long term flaming of the band or list members and no FANYBOYS or FANGIRLS." --The Moderator L8er lil' ab "When a nice clean brain tumbles to the dirty street to lie among the discarded wrappers and spat out gum wads of wickedness, you can't just pick it up and wash it off with soap and water; you gotta think it clean from the inside out." - The Tick From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Thu Aug 7 09:58:07 1997 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (I talk to planets, baby) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 14:58:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Drac Fest 27-9-97 (was 24-7-97) Message-ID: Dear chums, I have just received the following, and thought it might amuse you as it did me. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Johnny-pops Are you off to Dracfest this September?? Hawkwind headlining a festival advertised in NME!! What has happened?? Did Hale-Bopp hit?? --------------------- The full info from NME is 'Thge Whitby centenary dracula festival, to commemorate the 100th anniversary of Bram Stoker's Dracula Stripes Farm, Whitby, North Yorks Friday 26th Sept: The Damned, Christian Death, Alien Sex Fiend Saturday 27th: Hawkwind, the crazy world of arthur brown, Cathedral Sunday 28th: The Stranglers, Marc Almond. Many more bands to be added Bars, food, market stalls and much horror. Weekend tickets 35 poundlings, including VAT, camping and car parking. Postal applications to North East Concerts Ltd, PO Box 45, Whitby, North Yorks, YO22 4YE cheques payable to north east concerts ltd, include an sae and daytime phone number. Credit card hotline (subject to booking fee) 0115 912 9000 National coach info, 24 hour hotline 0115 912 9120' It has the telling phrase 'subject to licence' which might also explain their need for a daytime phone number. Cheers Mike w From sprawl at STARLINX.COM Thu Aug 7 11:53:15 1997 From: sprawl at STARLINX.COM (Ron Jennings) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 11:53:15 -0400 Subject: Moderator/Stale Message-ID: > 1. HW fans on this list are very helpful with explaining HW to newbies > 2. HW is a band with a rich and interesting history > 3. HW fans on this list have a great sense of humor > 4. HW can just farkin' play forgot one lil thing. some of us were fans of BOTH BOC and HAWKWIND, before this list even existed. Some of us associated them before all this. Ok, so maybe it isnt everyone who notices or appreciates that association, but its there anyway. i used to read all the boc posts, now i just scan them. (in case some real news accidentally finds its way in. ;)) i have no filters on, and it takes me a maximum of about ten minutes to read all messgs, although i do check mail at least twice a day. if things on this list started to become a drag, i would simply leave without comment. there have been times when it was a drag, but i waited it out, and things always get better. the only thing i dint like about the post made by the UNKNOWN UNSUBBER, was that they acted like we had done some kind of evil upon them. oh well. rj From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Aug 7 12:46:42 1997 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 17:46:42 +0100 Subject: BOC: Oysters, Wagons and the Manband Message-ID: >What year are we talking about here? Sometime around 73-4, I guess. Deke's (quite rightly, IMO) more concerned with telling a good story than with details of chronology. And he probably doesn't remember, anyway... :) - Andy -- mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Thu Aug 7 12:59:09 1997 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 18:59:09 +0200 Subject: Moderator/Stale Message-ID: Ron Jennings: >i used to read all the boc posts, now i just scan them. (in case some >real news accidentally finds its way in. ;)) Things like "Buck has a moustache again" and other important things, huh??? :-) > >i have no filters on, and it takes me a maximum of about ten minutes to >read all messgs, although i do check mail at least twice a day. Everybody, I command you -"Say No To Filters"! :-) "Dare to read BOC-l without safety-net!" :-) (I have no filters either!) > >if things on this list started to become a drag, i would simply leave >without comment. there have been times when it was a drag, but >i waited it out, and things always get better. So now we know why Ron is so quiet sometimes... I think we all can learn a lesson from this! :-) > >the only thing i dint like about the post made by the UNKNOWN UNSUBBER, >was that they acted like we had done some kind of evil upon them. ...and I don't like reading opinions like theirs when they could started some "interesting" BOC threads themselves if they really wanted to! mvh -Daniel Wikdahl (in a preaching mood today!) "Vad? jultraditioner? Hos oss har vi nya traditioner varje ?r" (CG) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN +46 480 245 11 From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Aug 7 13:12:49 1997 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. 6L6) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 13:12:49 EDT Subject: Moderator/Stale Message-ID: > From: Ron Jennings > i used to read all the boc posts, now i just scan them. (in case some > real news accidentally finds its way in. ;)) > > i have no filters on, and it takes me a maximum of about ten minutes to > read all messgs, although i do check mail at least twice a day. > There ya go! Same with me and HW, though I enjoy most all the HW posts. As AB said, the HW fans on the list are cool and say cool stuff... > if things on this list started to become a drag, i would simply leave > without comment. there have been times when it was a drag, but > i waited it out, and things always get better. > > the only thing i dint like about the post made by the UNKNOWN UNSUBBER, > was that they acted like we had done some kind of evil upon them. > > oh well. > > > rj Right! Just what were they expecting in way of BOC news anyway? They said tour info, but that's avail. from a web page. Unknown Subscriber: there ain't no BOC news! If BOC ever shakes off its self-imposed catatonia, that'd be news. If EB ever really sings again, that's news. The problem with discussing BOC, is that almost anything you can say will be negative: Lack of new album EB's vocal problems Lack of vision within the group and management Spotty tour info Reluctance to patch things up with Al Playing tiny gigs with no press What have I left out? BTW, Next weekend, BOC will play in front of about 30,000 fans, but as a support group at a gig with about 5 other bands. Their positioning before another support group, Matchbox 20 [whom I've never heard of!] on a gig headlined by Little Feat [a band I really like, but they aren't exactly playing football stadiums either] tells volumes about the band's fortunes these days. And, as fans will be drifting in all day, I don't know how much of that huge throng will be present for BOC, but it should still be a huge number. And upstate New York is a BOC stronghold, and since the gig costs a whopping 5 bucks to get in, I expect quite a crowd for this sprawling outdoor fest. I'll have my camera gear with me, so stay tuned, kids... theo From paul at GROMIT.CS.VT.EDU Thu Aug 7 13:34:46 1997 From: paul at GROMIT.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 13:34:46 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: Moderator/Stale In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19970807165909.0090eb94@mailbox.mc.hik.se> Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Daniel Wikdahl wrote: > Everybody, I command you -"Say No To Filters"! :-) > "Dare to read BOC-l without safety-net!" :-) > (I have no filters either!) I have no filters set, but try and respect those who do so by using filter keywords in my own posts. If some BOC fan has decided not to read anything about HW (or vice versa), who am I to tell them their own mind and decide what's best for them? > >the only thing i dint like about the post made by the UNKNOWN UNSUBBER, > >was that they acted like we had done some kind of evil upon them. > > ...and I don't like reading opinions like theirs when they could started > some "interesting" BOC threads themselves if they really wanted to! I think we should remember that the "UNKNOWN UNSUBBER" expressed his or her opinions in PRIVATE E-MAIL to the moderator: they were never intended for public distribution. If you "don't like reading opinions like theirs," console yourself that you were never meant to. Apart from the distinctly odd perspective of Hawkwind, I got the impression that the unsubscriber was trying to provide some positive feedback (as he or she saw it) to the moderator. If guilty of anything, it was of not reading the "instructions" that came with the subscription, thereby being puzzled why a list called *BOC*-L had so much Hawkwind and off-topic traffic. Personally, I think it's the unsubscriber's loss, as it's the "bits between the bits" that makes BOC-L such a great list (and why this is the only list I've stayed subscribed to over many years now). But I can still appreciate his or her point of view in being surprised by the nature and culture of this list in view of its name. Pity for them they didn't give it more time, and "go with the flow..." Cheers, Paul. obCD: The Bevis Frond, _New River Head_ e-mail: paul at gromit.cs.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From flossbac at WCIC.ORG Thu Aug 7 14:23:40 1997 From: flossbac at WCIC.ORG (John Majka) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 13:23:40 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Moderator/Stale Message-ID: Regarding those nasty-tempered anonymous people who were offended to find HW on this list as well as BOC.... I've enjoyed reading stuff about both bands. I'm here for the Hawkwind, but as a consequence of this list I found myself getting curious about BOC and bought Workshop of the Telescopes. Probably there has been a lot of cross-pollination as a direct result of combining the two bands on one list. There have been cases here where people who came in as a fan of one band checked out the other and liked them too. Plus, hey, we're all reasonable-minded sociable people. We can get along even if we don't all agree about the same things. John Majka From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Thu Aug 7 14:23:03 1997 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 20:23:03 +0200 Subject: OFF: Re: Moderator/Stale Message-ID: Paul Mather wrote: > >I have no filters set, but try and respect those who do so by using >filter keywords in my own posts. If some BOC fan has decided not to >read anything about HW (or vice versa), who am I to tell them their own >mind and decide what's best for them? Hmm, I noticed that you've added an "OFF" in the subjectline. I'm using "OFF" also but this time I didn't think of it 'cos I was answering another mail and just used the reply button. The other things you're writing... well, I hope you did see the smileys?!? ...but, of course, not all humour is global even if I would like it to be that way. But... I must also say that would never have discovered the Spaceship Hawkwind if I had used filters. I read almost all the HW mails before I started to listen to them and I've become interested in the band thanks to BOC-l. >> ...and I don't like reading opinions like theirs when they could started >> some "interesting" BOC threads themselves if they really wanted to! > >I think we should remember that the "UNKNOWN UNSUBBER" expressed his or >her opinions in PRIVATE E-MAIL to the moderator: they were never >intended for public distribution. If you "don't like reading opinions >like theirs," console yourself that you were never meant to. True, but at the same time my view was more like "Don't sit infront of your computer and pity yourself 'cos nobody is writing stuff that you want to read. _Make_ the other subscribers to do it by writing some yourself." I can't see anything wrong with that. As I'm living in Sweden I'm sick and tired of everybody complaing "blah blah have nothing to do, no job, no school,nothing blah blah blah and the politicians are all fucked up... blah blah and I'm always out of money... blah blah... and the cigarettes are too expensive blah blah" I often want people like that to shut the f**k up (oops sorry!) 'cos they don't vote (hey, I hope I'm not generalizing too much now) and they never try to make a difference in any other way either. Both in real life and on a mailinglist like this, you have the possibility to affect other people and, their actings and their point of view in many different ways... maybe that's just what the UU have done but I'm very sceptical if they really choosed a wise to do it. Writing to moderator like that and then leave (as I understand immediately) before they can see if their wills and thoughts has generated a fruitful discussion or not irritates me a lot. No matter if I was intended to see the mail or not. with lots of strange grammar and typos as usual mvh -Daniel [snip!] "Vad? jultraditioner? Hos oss har vi nya traditioner varje ?r" (CG) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN +46 480 245 11 From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Thu Aug 7 14:33:57 1997 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 20:33:57 +0200 Subject: OFF: Monster Magnet new album Message-ID: I just found this on a Monster Magnet website and because I know that many of you are interested in this band I thought you would like to read this... Violating the copyright laws: > >Hi, I've been checking out the Monster Magnet websites and happened upon >yours. I thought I'd take this opportunity to > update you on the band's activities of late. I'm their point >person at A&M Records in New York. > - The new record has been recorded in L.A. with Dave Wyndorf and Matt Hyde >(Porno For Pyros, Soul Asylum, MM Bosstones...) sharing producer >responsibilities. >- The record will be mixed in September in L.A. >- The record titled "Power Trip" will be released worldwide in early 1998. >- Monster Magnet have a track "Gimme Danger" on the Iggy Pop tribute "We >Will Fall" coming out on Caroline Records in >early September. >- Dave Wyndorf is collaborating with God Lives Underwater for a Depeche Mode >tribute record to be released on A&M >sometime this year. He's recording the song "Black Celebration". >-Monster Magnet will appear live at the CMJ Convention in NYC in early >September. It will be the first show presenting the >new material. >So that's the dish. Please let me know if there is any other information I >can give you. Thanks for your interest in MonsterMagnet. > Best, > Debbie Southwood-Smith > >"Vad? jultraditioner? Hos oss har vi nya traditioner varje ?r" (CG) > >Daniel Wikdahl >Kaptensgatan 2a >S-39 236 KALMAR >SWEDEN > +46 480 245 11 > > > > "Vad? jultraditioner? Hos oss har vi nya traditioner varje ?r" (CG) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN +46 480 245 11 From jmalcolm at URAEUS.COM Thu Aug 7 14:39:16 1997 From: jmalcolm at URAEUS.COM (Joseph Malcolm) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 14:39:16 -0400 Subject: OFF: munich record stores Message-ID: I'm going to be in Muenchen for a week. Any recommendations on interest places to buy CDs? Or interesting things to do/places to see? From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Wed Aug 6 17:46:41 1997 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 22:46:41 +0100 Subject: ADMIN: An amusing/interesting note and my reply In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970806011659.006b39d8@online.no> Message-ID: At 01:16 06/08/97 +0000, Christian wrote: >>A good "woody" word even > >Er... an erection?? Woody Woodpecker??? No, "woody" as opposed to "tinny" - from an old Monty Python routine.... >(Coco for Co-Co-Puffs? Trix Are For Kids? Loony Toons Crack for inner city >housing project kids???????????) Que? >>Cheers >>Targuin Fin-Tin-Bim-Ftang-Ftang-Ole-Biscuit-Barrel (or something like that) > >huh..... Fin-Fang-Foom?? No, nothing to do with Stan Lee & Co - it's Python again - from the "Upper Class Twit of the Year" sketch >>P.S. How does one get the clothes orf a debutante? > >No idea, but I betcha don't know how you get a russian prostitute pregnant! The possibilities are endless. >Let me know how to get the clothes orf a debutante! Ask Tarquin! >ObSignOfGettingOldInYour20's: passing out in front of the TV after only 8 > beers. Depends on what kind of beer - 4 Duvels in front of the rugby usually put me in the realm of the silly... >ObWakingUpToTVHorror: Jerry Springer wears Armani suits and there's no > escape from Tom Brokaw even in Europe. Jerry who? And there is an escape - don't turn the tv on (especially if it's got cable or satellite...) Cheers, ChrisW NP: "I Can See Your House From Here" - John Scofield & Pat Metheny From desdinova at EARTHLING.NET Thu Aug 7 17:57:33 1997 From: desdinova at EARTHLING.NET (Chris Warburton) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 22:57:33 +0100 Subject: OFF: Taking A Break In-Reply-To: <199708071839.OAA00519@nodens.uraeus.com> Message-ID: I'm off on the annual two week family endurance test - C U all in a fortnight... ChrisW NP: Man - Call Down The Moon From MYSTICDEAN at AOL.COM Thu Aug 7 19:04:37 1997 From: MYSTICDEAN at AOL.COM (Dean Ciardi) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 19:04:37 -0400 Subject: PLEASE GET ME OFF LIST Message-ID: COULD YOU PLEASE TAKE ME OFF LIST.. From sprawl at STARLINX.COM Thu Aug 7 21:10:46 1997 From: sprawl at STARLINX.COM (Ron Jennings) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 21:10:46 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: Moderator/Stale Message-ID: Paul Mather wrote: > I think we should remember that the "UNKNOWN UNSUBBER" expressed his or > her opinions in PRIVATE E-MAIL to the moderator: they were never > intended for public distribution. If you "don't like reading opinions > like theirs," console yourself that you were never meant to. > ok. first, it sounds like you read my post with more weight than was intended. yes, you're right, i did forget. i was thinking of it as a post. and i didnt say anything about their opinions. i spoke of the post (in error, i admit.) i care nothing for such opinions, either way, but only think they are inappropriate posted to the list. (which they weren't, so apparently the "poster" felt the same way.) i only mentioned it, because there have been such posts in the past. any one remember 'mad mike?' the whole post of my reply to lil AB was only that i was into HW and BOC pre this list, which demonstrates that some people see a link of somekind, of whom our moderator is probably one. laterz... =) \rj From sprawl at STARLINX.COM Thu Aug 7 21:16:02 1997 From: sprawl at STARLINX.COM (Ron Jennings) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 21:16:02 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: Moderator/Stale Message-ID: SPRAWL wrote: > > Paul Mather wrote: > oops. apologies. didnt realize you werent really talking to me... and more apologeez for this post. foot in mouth.... rj From Charlotte.Brorsson at EPK.ERICSSON.SE Fri Aug 8 03:11:18 1997 From: Charlotte.Brorsson at EPK.ERICSSON.SE (Charlotte Brorsson) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 09:11:18 +0200 Subject: BOC: Denmark Concerts Message-ID: Hi all! Temporarily out of lurker mode, just to share this piece of information with those who might be interested! Got a mail from Bolle this morning, he told me that BOC will be on stage at about 5.30 on the saturday concert. ...back to the shadows... /Charlotte ...and I've only been waiting for 15 years to get a chance to see them live... From p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU Fri Aug 8 05:01:54 1997 From: p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU (Peter Sondergeld) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 19:01:54 +1000 Subject: OFF: Hey brits: Bob's Yer Uncle.... Message-ID: For the seriously interested, here's a bit more trivia on your uncle Bob. I have a book here that has traced the expression back to around 1890, and the author suggests that it may have been (but not definitely) derived from another (late 17th to early 19th century) phrase "all is bob", meaning "all is safe". Strewth! Crikey! Bewdy bonza mate! See also: for more 'strine Pete. (Fair Dinkum 'Strine Librarian) At 12:02 AM 7/08/97 +1000, Sonique wrote: >On 5 Aug 97 at 15:57, Mark Edmonds wrote: > >> writes >> >Brits are colourful? What about us true blues? >> > >> >"Stone the Crows and Pickle me Grandmother - I found a freebie in my >> >glug! And don't forget never to bod chonks from a fruit ...." >> > >> >(Just my 2c worth o 'strine) >> > >> >Sonique >> >> Brilliant! LOL! What do you do for an encore?! > >I think I've just about used up all the more colourful phrases I could think >of (besides all the ones which are also common in Britain) > >> "Bob's Your Uncle" is an expression which sort of means nothing really >> and is a typical throw-away remark. > >Same down under. It's most common use here is precede with "and" used in a >context of describing how to do something "and then it will work/your >finished/whatever". I know what I mean if no-one else does .... > > >> The idea behind it is that Bob is an extremely common name so anyone can >> have an uncle called Bob (so happens I haven't) therefore the value of >> telling someone that they have an uncle called Bob is zero. >> >> So, Bob's your uncle, there you have it! > >"there you have it" is what I was looking for ... > >> Now someone tell me what the fuck "Stone the Crows" is all about please! > >It means anything you want it too .... ;^) > >S. > >-- >Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long >R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may >http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique //// '~ ( --- they >sonique at mail.pcmicro.com.au /////// : ; --- Fly! > > ************************** Peter Sondergeld p.sondergeld at qut.edu.au "I'm no stranger to hard work - more of a nodding acquaintance" - D.G. Harris From 96163497 at BROOKES.AC.UK Fri Aug 8 06:34:53 1997 From: 96163497 at BROOKES.AC.UK (langner timothy) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 11:34:53 +0100 Subject: Swindon Message-ID: Hi Can any one tell how close Wyvern Theater in Swindon is to the railway station and if I was to catch a 22.34 train how much of Hakwiwnd would I miss? Oh and don't expect a reply since I'm only around for one day but I'll be back in september looking forward to the oxford and reading gigs. I believe a promotor was in at the Ally Cat (Reading) on Wenesday (just gone) to give them a new date. Apprantly it had been changed from the date put up on their site, 31st july, and I phoned 1st August. When I phoned the Zodia, same day, the lady at the other end was surprised to hear they were playing and after talking to somoeone said I should try this firday to get tickets. I'm looking forward to seeing hjawkwind at the Zodia. Only holds about 300 people. The length from the back of the stage to the front is really small and when I saw peter Green there there was hardly any space between his micprone and the drums. So all this talk of Dave Brooks always being at the back won't matter because the back is almost the front. I have never seen hawkwind before so hopefuly I'll be able to see them 3 times to make up. (once for each year they were either to far away or I had exams) Timmy Langner ------------- "Stars occupy miunte areas of space, they are clusted a few billion here and a few billion there as it's seeking consterlation in numbers" (M. Moorcock: Poem and book, Black Corridor) ------------- 96163497 at Brookes.ac.uk (I'm a number not a name...) timlang at hotmail.com (...so I put that right) ------------- BOOTLEGS: http://www.brookes.ac.uk/~96163497/bootlegs.html >From there go else where: From Quo to Me. Just go and see (sorry I got bord!) From 96163497 at BROOKES.AC.UK Fri Aug 8 09:25:17 1997 From: 96163497 at BROOKES.AC.UK (langner timothy) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 14:25:17 +0100 Subject: HW: SR Q's (Forward) Message-ID: jill said: >first-time-ever-officially-recorded-live version of MotU which was the one >done at the Greasy Truckers gig. This is the gig which made the band famous >(in effect) since the original Silver Machine was recorded here too. MotU >isn't *that* bad - what it lacks in 'blanga' it makes up for in >laid-backness, which is how things were then..... Listen to the In Search of Space track! Was Sliver Machine first preformed at the Greasy Truckers gig? Tim From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Fri Aug 8 11:05:00 1997 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 16:05:00 +0100 Subject: Swindon In-Reply-To: langner timothy's mail of Fri, 8 Aug 97 11:34 +0100 Message-ID: On 08 Aug 11:34, langner timothy wrote: > I'll be back > in september looking forward to the oxford and reading gigs. The Dracula festival on the 27th clashes with the proposed Oxford gig, so you may be out of luck there (unless they reschedule it). > I believe a > promotor was in at the Ally Cat (Reading) on Wenesday (just gone) to give them > a new date. Apprantly it had been changed from the date put up on their > site, 31st july, and I phoned 1st August. They must have to juggle dates and commitments continually until they get a final list of confirmed dates. > I have never seen hawkwind before Here's hoping they do a good show for you! They've been on form recently, so the prognosis is good. Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Mayfield Road, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. Tel: +44 131 472 4782 From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Fri Aug 8 13:55:51 1997 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 19:55:51 +0200 Subject: HW: SR Q's (Forward) Message-ID: Hi Tim At 14:25 08.08.97 +0100, you wrote: >Was Sliver Machine first preformed at the Greasy Truckers gig? No. It was for the 1st time performed between July and October 1971 The Greasy Truckers Party was on 13.02.1972 Bernhard From ianfines at JUNO.COM Thu Aug 7 16:20:49 1997 From: ianfines at JUNO.COM (Ian R Fines) Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 16:20:49 -0400 Subject: BOC: Oysters, Wagons and the Manband Message-ID: >"...three days later, amid scenes of acrimony, rancour and >malevolence, the >tour collapsed under the weight of our collective egos." i never knew Deke was such a prolific writer..bravo! From henrik.hallgren at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Sat Aug 9 07:07:01 1997 From: henrik.hallgren at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 13:07:01 +0200 Subject: HW: Pseudo sun Message-ID: Miikka Wagner wrote: Hi Miikka! Sorry for being slow answering, but I?m on holiday (fishing), and is just home for changing gear. > > >It?s Pseudo Sun with Juha Nurmenniemi (ex bass-player in drax) > > Henrik, do you know does he speak finnish? I don?t know, my guess is that he?s born in Sweden. Ususally most finnish-related people does speak finnish though. Not much of help I guess!?! Cheers Henrik > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Just `cos you got the power > Doesn?t mean you got the right /\/\ > -Lemmy //\/\\ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _____//____\\_____ > \\ // > Miikka Wagner \\/\// > hawk at micci.pp.sci.fi \/\/ > http://www.sci.fi/~micci -- ========================================================== "Hallucinations flash by my eyes. I see images of strange far away places. New chocking technology and civilations based on astral magic." >From "Astral magic" by Dark Sun Henrik Hallgren, Stapelv?gen 5, 856 34 Sundsvall, Sweden Email: henrik.hallgren at sundsvall.mail.telia.com / henrik.hallgren at ortv.sca.se Fax +46 (0)70 6101310 / Phone +46 (0)60 173716 From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Sat Aug 9 17:38:16 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Sat, 9 Aug 1997 21:38:16 +0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Moderator/Stale In-Reply-To: <199708071823.NAA26138@wcic.org> Message-ID: At 13:23 07.08.97 -0500, you wrote: > We can get along even if we don't all >agree about the same things. >John Majka Well said - and Bob's yer uncle! Christian From monsieur at MYMAIL.NET Sun Aug 10 01:35:03 1997 From: monsieur at MYMAIL.NET (DAMON CAPEHART) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 00:35:03 -0500 Subject: OFF: I'm Engaged!!! :-) Message-ID: Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! .... Anyway, the tentative date is July 11, so if anything Hawk-related is happening on or immediately following that date, you can count me out. :-) [or immediately before, I guess... from what I gather it's pretty hectic beforehand too.] Damon C Capehart From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Sun Aug 10 04:12:28 1997 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff and Pam Wheaton) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 02:12:28 -0600 Subject: OFF: I'm Engaged!!! :-) Message-ID: DAMON CAPEHART wrote: > Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! > Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! > Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! > Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! > Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! > Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! > Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! > Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! .... > > Anyway, the tentative date is July 11, so if anything > Hawk-related is happening on or immediately following that > date, you can count me out. :-) [or immediately before, I > guess... from what I gather it's pretty hectic beforehand > too.] > > Damon C Capehart Congrats, dude:) May you marriage last as long as mine-Cliff & I celebrated (kinda) our 13th this last june!! I only say kinda 'cause we both had to work that day:( and we work opposite shifts.Good luck to ya both!! Pam -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton ____/----^----\____ The greatest tool from "Chris Baxley" at Jul 29, 97 09:44:39 am Message-ID: Chris Baxley writes: > > Hey, I was there too. It must be that half the audience was made of > members from this list. > > It was cool to finally see Meltzer. He looks like just another crusty NWer > (long hair, greying beard) > but when he speaks, reveals a decidedly dark aesthetic sense. I will have > to search out his book. It adds whole new dimensions to the concept of artistic self-indulgence. That's not to say that it doesn't make for entertaining reading - I stayed up all night when I first got it, reading random passages from it. It reads much better that way - if you read too much of in proper sequence, you start to see how cheap it is; but little bits of it are just dazzling in their wit and excess. > I overheard him say that he has joined the Portland band Smegma, which is a > noisy, dada-istic gaggle of > aging misfits who periodically erupt like a pimple on the face of the > Portland music scene. I think they are > playing this Thursday at the same club. What a strange coincidence. I was just in J&R Music world, looking for some CDs (that I owe to a fellow list member and which they didn't have in stock, of course). Anyway, on on my way out, I happened to notice a CD by a band called "Smegma". My first thought was that it would be a real shame if they're deserving of abuse, because the poor reviewer will be deprived of the pleasure of calling their work "masturbatory". ;-) Steve From swann at ST-CANARD.SPC.EDU Sun Aug 10 15:46:40 1997 From: swann at ST-CANARD.SPC.EDU (Stephen Swann) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 15:46:40 -0400 Subject: OFF: Jethro Tull In-Reply-To: <199707310412.XAA17929@mail.mymail.net> from "DAMON CAPEHART" at Jul 30, 97 11:12:10 pm Message-ID: DAMON CAPEHART writes: > > On Wed, 30 Jul 1997 13:04:21 EDT Marshall Wood wrote: > >Come to think of it, I think it was that box [20th Anniv.] that > >caused my Tullitis. I now have all of their stuff, which is > >the only cure for this condition. > > Really? Even "Stormwatch" and "A"? I got rid of Stormwatch because "Orion" > was the only slightly decent track on it (IMO). "A" I gave away because the > 25th [not 20th] Anniversary box has - IMO again - the definitive mix of > "Black Sunday", which is, like on Stormwatch, the only good track. I actually listen to Stormwatch rather often. It may be because I got into JT through _Broadsword and the Beast_, and _Stormwatch_ is the immediate precursor to that album, so has much of the same atmosphere. I actually like *all* the songs on it, though I agree that Orion is probably the best of the lot (other favorites: "Dark Ages", "Flying Dutchman". And "Something's On the Move" has some really cool lyrics). _A_ I haven't heard in years, though my recollection of it was that I didn't much like it, and I've never oathered to track it down and hear it again. That was really an Ian Anderson solo album that got released under the Jethro Tull name, correct? > > Damon > > P.S.: Even "Catfish Rising"? "Rock Island"?!?!? My girlfriend owns both of those, and listens to them occasionally. They're no great favorites of mine, but I don't find them actually distressing, like the late output from some bands I could name. ;-) Steve From swann at ST-CANARD.SPC.EDU Sun Aug 10 15:58:23 1997 From: swann at ST-CANARD.SPC.EDU (Stephen Swann) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 15:58:23 -0400 Subject: BOC: Denmark Concerts In-Reply-To: <2F5E7761E72@library.syr.edu> from "Ted Jackson jr. 6L6" at Jul 31, 97 07:44:28 am Message-ID: Ted Jackson jr. 6L6 writes: > > I'm not exaggerating about BD's playing of late. Seen them 3 times > in the last 8 months. He's way better than he was back in the days > when they were playing stadiums. So you can see all this amazing > playing up close. BOC-Lers worldwide, don't miss any chance to see > BOC. The only downside is that the rest of the show doesn't really > match BD's performance, and EB is a shadow of his old self... > theo > Absolutely. I can hardly believe what he has done with "Last Days of May" for instance. He has turned that from a classic with some great guitar playing in it, into an almost unbelievable guitar epic. When he played that incredible instrumental bridge in the middle, I was simply transixed by the sheer beauty and power of it. I've heard all kinds of guitarists who can play almost unbelievably fast, or with incredible "technique", but this was something entirely beyond that; it was awe-inspiring. Steve From swann at ST-CANARD.SPC.EDU Sun Aug 10 16:17:11 1997 From: swann at ST-CANARD.SPC.EDU (Stephen Swann) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 16:17:11 -0400 Subject: OFF: The brave men and women of the Oslo police In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970803172246.006acac4@online.no> from "Christian" at Aug 3, 97 05:22:46 pm Message-ID: Christian writes: > > Well, I continue to surprise myself. This morning I was released from jail!! [ sory deleted ] ROFL! You know, lately this list is looking more and more like the good old days of GRUNGE-L. People posting while drunk, list members getting in trouble with the law... I've always thought that rock-n-roll lists *ought* to have a little anarchy. Keep up the good work guys! ;-) Steve From swann at ST-CANARD.SPC.EDU Sun Aug 10 18:13:05 1997 From: swann at ST-CANARD.SPC.EDU (Stephen Swann) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 18:13:05 -0400 Subject: Those demmed elusive Brain Surgeons Message-ID: Where are they right now? Still doing the west coast tour? Steve From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Sun Aug 10 19:41:49 1997 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 19:41:49 -0400 Subject: Those demmed elusive Brain Surgeons Message-ID: Swann queries: >Where are they right now? Still doing the west coast tour? Actually I'm just now on boc-l having set mail to on yesterday. What's been going on? Actually I may have to make an emergency eleventh hour guest appearance on the Cult Bros. album because drummer Jimmy is curently in the hoosegow (ever wonder how that was spelled?) and Joe wants to redo a couple drum parts this weekend. Al From mordru at MAGG.NET Sun Aug 10 20:05:17 1997 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 20:05:17 -0400 Subject: Those demmed elusive Brain Surgeons Message-ID: >Swann queries: > >>Where are they right now? Still doing the west coast tour? > >Actually I'm just now on boc-l having set mail to on yesterday. What's been >going on? Well, there was this amusing story about some tour BOC did w/ REO Speedwagon, and Man.... and a lot of people posting stuff while drunk. =================================== Roger Shrubstaff == To dwell within Samsara, however is Duchy of Silverwater = to be subject to the works of those http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm= who are mighty among dreamers. (Andrew A. Apold) == - Mahasamatman ==================================== From heller at HAGEDORN.DK Mon Aug 11 07:28:18 1997 From: heller at HAGEDORN.DK (Scott Heller) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 13:28:18 +0200 Subject: BOC live in denmark Message-ID: Here is the set list for the BOC show here in denmark at the 5-?rens park in K?benhavn: Intro Music Stariway to the Stars ETI (incredible solo by buck!) Buck's Boogie Cities on Flame Last days of May Burning for You GOdzilla (long bass and drum solos) Don't Fear the reaper 58min long The crowd really was into it and there was some fans with a big flag and some from sweden (charolte and daniel) and I thought they were really tight and buck really smoked for the first 30 min of the set until Burning and then it was a bit boring. Great sound, great weather,e tc.. and Bobby Rondelli the chain smoking drummer. I have never seen a drummer smoke cigarettes the whole way thru a set. The roadies would just keep lighting them for him! I had a great time with Daniel from the list and it was good fun. The bass player said that he hoped they would come back to europe next year. I did not even bother to ask about the new lp. SCott Heller ObMD- Status Quo- 5 ?rens, K?benhavn 8/9/97 From micci at SCI.FI Mon Aug 11 10:09:23 1997 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:09:23 +0300 Subject: HW:hawxtar Message-ID: Hi! I receive today HawXtar cd. Great stuff! I recommend this to all HW and DarXtar fans. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Just `cos you got the power Doesn?t mean you got the right /\/\ -Lemmy //\/\\ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _____//____\\_____ \\ // Miikka Wagner \\/\// hawk at micci.pp.sci.fi \/\/ http://www.sci.fi/~micci From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Mon Aug 11 10:32:01 1997 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 09:32:01 -0500 Subject: OFF: I'm Engaged!!! :-) In-Reply-To: DAMON CAPEHART "OFF: I'm Engaged!!! :-)" (Aug 10, 12:35am) Message-ID: DAMON CAPEHART wrote: > Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! > Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! > Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! > Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! > Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! > Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! > Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! > Happy! Happy! Happy! Happy! .... > > Anyway, the tentative date is July 11, so if anything > Hawk-related is happening on or immediately following that > date, you can count me out. :-) [or immediately before, I > guess... from what I gather it's pretty hectic beforehand > too.] Congratulations! As someone who is getting married soon (on October 10), I think I can help you be prepared for the amount of details that need to be worked out. Close your eyes (after you read this :-) and think of everything you two need to deal with: the wedding, the reception, the limousine, the tuxedos, the wedding dress, the flowers, the cake, the rehearsal, ... Go ahead, do it now. We'll wait. (insert Jeopardy theme music here) Okay, do you have in your mind an idea of what needs to be done? Good. Now double the amount of work you just thought of and you'll be in the right ball park. Start planning early, keep a good sense of humor, remember to keep control because it is *your* wedding, and try not to kill each other (which is frowned on by most major religions and tends to put a damper on the ceremony). Really, though, it can be a fun process. Best of luck to you. Frank ObWeddingHorrorStory: Our photographer skipped town with our deposit less than three months before the wedding, and the next day our florist called up and cancelled our order because they decided they wanted to be on vacation for all of October. It wasn't the best 24 hours of my life. -- ============================================================================== Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 668 - The Neighbor of the Beast. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Mon Aug 11 13:49:33 1997 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 18:49:33 +0100 Subject: OFF: test - ignore Message-ID: Just testing from my new home in cyberspace. FoFP From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Mon Aug 11 17:45:18 1997 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig Shipley) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:45:18 -0400 Subject: test - ignore? NO! Message-ID: So, should we send ya a nice potted plant or other similar house-warmin' gift? ;-) ObCDPlayer: Solaris / Solaris 1990 Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com ---------- From: M Holmes[SMTP:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, August 11, 1997 1:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: OFF: test - ignore Just testing from my new home in cyberspace. FoFP From delacour at UNM.EDU Mon Aug 11 18:48:39 1997 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 16:48:39 -0600 Subject: test - ignore? NO! In-Reply-To: <01BCA67E.5DC4CD00@dynamic-49.async.pyramid.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 11 Aug 1997, Craig Shipley wrote: > So, should we send ya a nice potted plant or other similar house-warmin' gift? > ;-) > > ObCDPlayer: Solaris / Solaris 1990 > > Craig Shipley > craigs at pyramid.com > > ---------- > From: M Holmes[SMTP:fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK] > Sent: Monday, August 11, 1997 1:49 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L > Subject: OFF: test - ignore > > Just testing from my new home in cyberspace. > > FoFP > LOUD & CLEAR!!!!!! Manuel & Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From monsieur at MYMAIL.NET Mon Aug 11 23:54:25 1997 From: monsieur at MYMAIL.NET (DAMON CAPEHART) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 22:54:25 -0500 Subject: OFF: I'm Engaged!!! :-) Message-ID: On Mon, 11 Aug 1997 09:32:01 -0500 Frank Weil wrote: >Congratulations! As someone who is getting married soon (on October >10),... Congrats to you too, then. >Close your eyes (after you read this :-) and think of everything you >two need to deal with: the wedding, the reception, the limousine, the >tuxedos, the wedding dress, the flowers, the cake, the rehearsal, ... >Go ahead, do it now. We'll wait. > >(insert Jeopardy theme music here) > >Okay, do you have in your mind an idea of what needs to be done? >Good. Now double the amount of work you just thought of and you'll be >in the right ball park. > >Start planning early,... Right. We have a head start on all sorts of things, and of course we have 11 months (334 days) from today to do it all. It won't be a walk in the park, but at least it won't be rushed. >...keep a good sense of humor,... [One of the things Kathy loves about me... :-)] >...remember to keep control because it is *your* wedding,... Well, technically it's -her- wedding; and of course, financially it's her -parents'- wedding. But it's OK because our families get along and once the ceremony is taken care of we won't be nearly as stressed, I suspect. >and try not to kill each other (which is frowned on by most major religions >and tends to put a damper on the ceremony). Sounds about right... >ObWeddingHorrorStory: Our photographer skipped town with our deposit >less than three months before the wedding, and the next day our >florist called up and cancelled our order because they decided they >wanted to be on vacation for all of October. It wasn't the best 24 >hours of my life. Ouch! Well, there's not much chance of that happening with us... there are a lot of options that can be taken care of within the church - wedding coordinator, floral type person (she makes beautiful silk bouquets, or so I've heard), a reception hall included w/in the church-use fee, etc. Damon "happiest man he knows" Capehart From Brizo777 at AOL.COM Mon Aug 11 23:46:04 1997 From: Brizo777 at AOL.COM (Teri Cruzan) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 23:46:04 -0400 Subject: Those demmed elusive Brain Surgeons Message-ID: Hey we could handle having Albert guest on the Cult Bros... another reason to look forward to it's release. Will that be on the Cellsum label? Thanks, Teri From corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET Tue Aug 12 00:45:58 1997 From: corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 00:45:58 -0400 Subject: HW:NY mini tour participants Message-ID: Curious as to who here is going to the NYC Dates and/or the Festival?? I am seriously thinking of going to BOTH and would like to meet up with anyone cause I think I would be going "alone". If you respond to me off list I will even send a... egads.. picture of my humble self. Hope to see bunches of folks there... Mike From Charlotte.Brorsson at EPK.ERICSSON.SE Tue Aug 12 04:40:16 1997 From: Charlotte.Brorsson at EPK.ERICSSON.SE (Charlotte Brorsson) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 10:40:16 +0200 Subject: BOC concert #2 in Denmark Message-ID: I suppose I was the only one from the list attending the BOC show at Skanderborg in Denmark, so here's some info on it: Setlist pretty much the same as at 5-orens in Copenhagen, but two more songs added: Stairway to the stars Before the kiss (a redcap) ETI Buck's boogie Dominance&Submission Cities on flame Last days of May Burnin' for you Godzilla Don't fear the Reaper Compared to the first show, I'd say the sound quality was a bit better at Skanderborg, especially the vocal part - was even possible to hear Eric's voice which was much better the 2nd day. Skanderborg was a big festival with xx thousands of people, and it was really crowded in front of the stage at all concerts (BB King, Simple Minds and some Danish groups) except for BOC!!! There were only perhaps 20 persons right in front of the stage and a few others here and there standing up listening. The rest of the crowd must have gone back sitting in the grass taking a rest between the pop shows... I wonder if they've ever had a lousier audience at such a big festival... Of course, to one who's never had a chance to see the band before, it's been a great weekend and well worth the money to travel around Denmark to see the band twice. And of course, lots of fun meeting Bolle at the first show and get a chance to talk to him for a while! /Charlotte From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 12 05:49:32 1997 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 10:49:32 +0100 Subject: test - ignore? NO! In-Reply-To: Craig Shipley's message of Mon, 11 Aug 1997 17:45:18 -0400 Message-ID: Craig Shipley writes: > So, should we send ya a nice potted plant or other similar house-warmin' gift? hehehe. Do you have Rudy's snailmail address? I'd like to send a card to his family. He did a lot of favours in trading for me, and though I've never met him in person, he seemd like a great guy. Cheers FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 12 07:10:39 1997 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:10:39 +0100 Subject: OFF: test - procmailrc help? Message-ID: Just testing .procmailrc If anyone knows how to use this to file list messages to a folder then please send me copy of how to do so. Otherwise I'll figure it out eventually. FoFP From a.hughes at NEWI.AC.UK Tue Aug 12 08:03:24 1997 From: a.hughes at NEWI.AC.UK (Alun Hughes) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 08:03:24 -0400 Subject: OFF: Mournblade Message-ID: Just a gentle health warning here. Anyone browsing the online CD stores coming across _Mournblade_, by Mournblade, might be forgiven for thinking that this was a well-merited rerelease of Dunken Mullett & Co's stuff like _Time's Running Out_ and - well, not much else really; or even new stuff ... Well it isn't. It's two American blokes in a German studio trying to sound like a band. The music is flat, generic, *very boring* metal, the lyrics are sadly and cringe-makingly earnest (and reproduced in full), and the packaging is as naff as you'll see. But if you ordered it online, you *wouldn't* see it, would you? It's on Cream records, distributed by Rough Trade (it's at home so I don't have the numbers or anything). Don't be caught! (Yes, I bought it. I was suspicious all along, but I thought, what the heck, it's only money.) Alun From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 12 09:19:43 1997 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:19:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: FAO Jerry Message-ID: Sorry we seemed to miss you at the Bulldog on Thursday. Did you not make it or did we just fail to recognise each other? We were sitting outside from 8.30 to around 10.00 and I took a wander through the various parts of the establishment with a Nethawks T prominently displayed, but failed to spot anyone tall with hair as long as you described. I had a great time in Amsterdam (apart from one psychopathic driver who attempted to kill me in an ambush - but I won't bore folsk with that story) and will certainly be back, so maybe next time we'll post gifs first... Cheers foFP From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 12 09:35:24 1997 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. 6L6) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 09:35:24 EDT Subject: OFF: FAO Jerry Message-ID: From: M Holmes > Sorry we seemed to miss you at the Bulldog on Thursday. Did you not make > it or did we just fail to recognise each other? We were sitting outside > from 8.30 to around 10.00 and I took a wander through the various parts > of the establishment with a Nethawks T prominently displayed, but failed > to spot anyone tall with hair as long as you described. > > I had a great time in Amsterdam (apart from one psychopathic driver who > attempted to kill me in an ambush - but I won't bore folsk with that > story) and will certainly be back, so maybe next time we'll post gifs > first... > > Cheers > foFP This sounds familiar! I met Jerry at the Bulldog a couple months ago. Which one was it, as the Bulldog is a chain? Maybe you went to the wrong one? Jerry'd be pretty hard to miss, as he's a big dude [though everyone, male and female, in Holland, is over six feet!] with really long hair. Just looks like a rocker. Anyway, Amsterdam was beyond description. Like New York without peole trying to kill each other! theo From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Tue Aug 12 10:53:19 1997 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 16:53:19 +0200 Subject: OFF: Jethro Tull Message-ID: _the real_ Steve Swann wrote: > _A_ I haven't heard in years, though my recollection of it >was that I didn't much like it, and I've never oathered to track it >down and hear it again. That was really an Ian Anderson solo album >that got released under the Jethro Tull name, correct? Yep, it's correct. BTW -what about the Sabs "Seventh Star" ? Is it a Tony Iommi solo album released in the same way as "A"??? -Daniel "Vad? jultraditioner? Hos oss har vi nya traditioner varje ?r" (CG) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN +46 480 245 11 From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 12 11:10:59 1997 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 16:10:59 +0100 Subject: OFF: FAO Jerry In-Reply-To: Ted Jackson jr. 6L6's message of Tue, 12 Aug 1997 09:35:24 EDT Message-ID: Ted Jackson jr. 6L6 writes: > This sounds familiar! I met Jerry at the Bulldog a couple months > ago. Which one was it, as the Bulldog is a chain? Maybe you went to > the wrong one? I checked the other one near the Leidesplein and it was shut until 10.00pm. Maybe he really meant to say some other Plein nearer the train station? > Jerry'd be pretty hard to miss, as he's a big dude > [though everyone, male and female, in Holland, is over six feet!] > with really long hair. Just looks like a rocker. Anyway, Amsterdam > was beyond description. Like New York without peole trying to kill > each other! Oh, allright then. We'd hired bikes to get around. On the way home late one night we were cycling the correct way up one canal. A motorist however was reversing down the wrong way and swerving around alarmingly. If he'd just been likely to hit a bollard, I couldn't have cared, but he was likely to hit us and we were forced onto the pavement at the other side of the bollards. Naturally I shouted at him. The moron (in a red sports car of course) immediately took a road rage attack and gave chase. I took this as mostly light amusement since it was obvious that if I stayed on the pedestrian sides of the bollards that there was little harm he could do. When I stopped he got halfway out of his car and shouted that he would kill me. "Go for it!" I quipped. The chase continued for a couple of blocks in much the same manner and he drove off at great speed elsewhere. I thought that was the end of it and waited while my companion caught up and we headed on. At the next canal bridge I was approaching the junction to cross to it when I saw the red sports car stopped at the crossroads and revving harshly, clearly threatening me if I attempted to cross. However, having done the numbers in an exercise, and from experience, knowing that the power to weight ratio of a bike is vastly superior to even a sports car, and being drunk, and not figuring he could really be that stupid anyway, I accelerated across the junction. The bastard floored the accelerator and presumably made nought to sixty in five seconds. However, obviously in the first second and a half he made about one foot while I made fifteen. One up for math and drunken bravado. My companion, and another couple of cyclists however couldn't believe it. In about another five seconds neither could I and I was furious and tried to chase the car to get the number, but cars do have more power than a bike and he was well out of sight. I can honestly say that's the first time someone has tried to kill me. Certainly nobody in New York cast even a hostile glance. > theo FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 12 11:13:13 1997 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 16:13:13 +0100 Subject: OFF: test Message-ID: Thanks for the help folks, presumably it'll work this time... FoFP From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Aug 12 11:23:58 1997 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 23:23:58 +0800 Subject: OFF: Jethro Tull Message-ID: Daniel Wikdahl wrote: > > _the real_ Steve Swann wrote: > > > _A_ I haven't heard in years, though my recollection of it > >was that I didn't much like it, and I've never oathered to track it > >down and hear it again. That was really an Ian Anderson solo album > >that got released under the Jethro Tull name, correct? > > Yep, it's correct. > > BTW -what about the Sabs "Seventh Star" ? Is it a Tony Iommi solo > album > released in the same way as "A"??? > > -Daniel > Yes. That one was as well, others would include Pink Floyd's Final Cut (and, to a lesser extent, The Wall), the first Whitesnake album, and probably even the first Rainbow album. William From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Tue Aug 12 13:56:18 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 17:56:18 +0000 Subject: OFF: Jethro Tull In-Reply-To: <33F0800E.10B05DE2@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: >Yes. That one was as well, others would include Pink Floyd's Final Cut >(and, to a lesser extent, The Wall), the first Whitesnake album, and >probably even the first Rainbow album. > >William ..and Hawkwind's Church of Hawkwind :) Christian From ChStier at AOL.COM Tue Aug 12 12:36:21 1997 From: ChStier at AOL.COM (Chris Stier) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:36:21 -0400 Subject: OFF: I'm Engaged!!! :-) Message-ID: >ObWeddingHorrorStory: Our photographer skipped town with our deposit >less than three months before the wedding, and the next day our >florist called up and cancelled our order because they decided they >wanted to be on vacation for all of October. It wasn't the best 24 >hours of my life. Or in my case, my limo ride to my ceremony didn't show, so I ended up driving myself and my best man to my own ceremony, arriving there with minutes to spare... Of course it still turned out to be the best day of my life. Chris From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Aug 12 12:39:02 1997 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 00:39:02 +0800 Subject: OFF: Jethro Tull Message-ID: Christian wrote: > > >Yes. That one was as well, others would include Pink Floyd's Final > Cut > >(and, to a lesser extent, The Wall), the first Whitesnake album, and > >probably even the first Rainbow album. > > > >William > > ..and Hawkwind's Church of Hawkwind :) > > Christian Forgot about that one William From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Tue Aug 12 15:12:04 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 19:12:04 +0000 Subject: OFF: Mournblade In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.19970812131047.3bef59de@cygnus.newi.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 08:03 12.08.97 -0400, Alun wrote: >Just a gentle health warning here. Anyone browsing the online CD >stores coming across _Mournblade_, by Mournblade, might be forgiven >for thinking that this was a well-merited rerelease of Dunken >Mullett & Co's stuff like _Time's Running Out_ and - well, not much >else really; or even new stuff ... Is there any thematic (or any other) relation to Moorcock's books other than the name? Who are these people :-) > >Well it isn't. It's two American blokes in a German studio trying to >sound like a band. The music is flat, generic, *very boring* metal, >the lyrics are sadly and cringe-makingly earnest (and reproduced >in full), and the packaging is as naff as you'll see. But if you >ordered it online, you *wouldn't* see it, would you? I think I've seen some guy from this band trying to sell their stuff in the Moorcock newsgroup (or was that a band called Arioch???). Also, anyone care to describe Tygers Of Pan Tang? Obviously metal but any good? Christian obStrangeMemory: I used to have this Full Moon CD. I got it because it had Rodney Matthews' Horsemen of the Apocalypse painting on the cover... for some reason I got rid of it years ago, and now for some reason wish I hadn't! Anyone know if they still exist??? Were they religious? I vaguely recall them as very cheezy but strangely interesting? Kinda like Hawkwind's Elric stuff, except Full Moon were being earnest and *not* tongue-in-cheek like HW...??? From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Aug 12 13:15:56 1997 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:15:56 +0100 Subject: OFF: Jethro Tull Message-ID: >>Yes. That one was as well, others would include Pink Floyd's Final Cut >>(and, to a lesser extent, The Wall), the first Whitesnake album, and >>probably even the first Rainbow album. >> > >.and Hawkwind's Church of Hawkwind :) Sorta... If I remember right, Iommi did want _7th Star_ to be a Tony Iommi album, but his management/record company insisted it go out as a Black Sabbath album. Whereas for _Church_, DB was under contract to do another Hawkwind album for RCA so he assembled some odds and ends and let them have that. (Still turned out to be the best of the three RCA albums, but there you go.) Another one is _Imaginos_, of course, where CBS insisted it be a Blue Oyster Cult album, not an Albert Bouchard album, and they went so far as to put the other BOC people on it! - Andy -- mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 12 13:22:56 1997 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:22:56 +0100 Subject: OFF: test - procmailrc help Message-ID: more messing with .procmailrc though I may really have it this time. From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 12 13:25:52 1997 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:25:52 +0100 Subject: OFF: test Message-ID: or maybe this time From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 12 13:30:12 1997 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:30:12 +0100 Subject: OFF: test In-Reply-To: M Holmes's message of Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:25:52 +0100 Message-ID: M Holmes writes: > or maybe this time > Heavens sake! Just logout and log back in again. It may not work first time without that. jill And don't say you weren't warned..... 8-) ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Tue Aug 12 15:26:56 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 19:26:56 +0000 Subject: OFF: Jethro Tull In-Reply-To: <01BCA74B.D82DD780@host5-99-46-38.btinternet.com> Message-ID: >Sorta... If I remember right, Iommi did want _7th Star_ to be a Tony Iommi >album, but his management/record company insisted it go out as a Black >Sabbath album. Whereas for _Church_, DB was under contract to do another >Hawkwind album for RCA so he assembled some odds and ends and let them have >that. (Still turned out to be the best of the three RCA albums, but there >you go.) Stone the crows! I can't disagree more :-) > Another one is _Imaginos_, of course, where CBS insisted it be a >Blue Oyster Cult album, not an Albert Bouchard album, and they went so far >as to put the other BOC people on it! > >- Andy Imaginos never did me too much (except some *great* parts, most of it didn't work for me...), and I think it's an overall better album than Church... Except the title track Sonic Attack was just slightly better than Masques IMO! Christian From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 12 13:57:50 1997 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:57:50 +0100 Subject: OFF: test In-Reply-To: J Strobridge's message of Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:30:12 +0100 Message-ID: J Strobridge writes: > M Holmes writes: > > > or maybe this time > > > > > Heavens sake! Just logout and log back in again. It may not work > first time without that. > Worse than that, I just got bum advice from the unix team and set up a mail loop! How was the digging? Are you going to the ski club thing later? FoFP From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Tue Aug 12 14:01:58 1997 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. 6L6) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:01:58 EDT Subject: OFF: Mournblade Message-ID: > From: Christian > Also, anyone care to describe Tygers Of Pan Tang? Obviously metal but any > good? > > Christian > Haven't heard too much of them, but get any of their stuff featuring John Sykes, who went on to Thin Lizzy, --ugh--Whitesnake [only to get booted out of the group after playing all over their biggest record! Just as they were hitting it huge...guess he wasn't pretty enough for them] and Blue Murder. I don't know if he's part of the new Thin Lizzy project or not, but I think he is... theo From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 12 14:08:52 1997 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 19:08:52 +0100 Subject: OFF: procmailrc - HELP! Message-ID: OK, I just got advice fromm experts here and set up a mail loop. Maybe the folks on the list will be able to help. I'm running some flavour of unix (details on request) under X windows (usually but sometimes with vt100). We've moved from one flavour to another so what I had worked out with rcvalert scripts and a .maildelivery file now appears to need biff and the .procmailrc file. What I'd ideally like to do is as follows: A) I have mail coming in from two lists, BOC-L and LIBERNET-D. I'd like these filed to folders in Mail/hwin and Mail/lib respectively without lodging themselves in my main email folder in .Mail B) When I send messages out to these lists, I don't want a copy for myself since I'll get one when they arrive back in the correct folders. C) When mail arrives, I'd like to be told who it's from, a clipped subject line, and if it's a list one, marked LIB or BOC-L in an alert line. I understand that this is where biff comes in. D) If I send mail out that's not for the lists, I'd like a copy kept in .Mail but I don't want an alert since I already know I've just sent mail. The account this comes from is fofp at holyrood.ed.ac.uk E) This is trickier I guess. I usually have two windows open to Holyrood. I'd like to set it up so that mail alerts come in one window but not the other. I previously did this by setting up a mailoff command which disabled mail alerts in a window, and a mailon command which enabled mail alerts to the window the command was given from, but disabled them to all other open windows. Something in my .bashrc file (now gone alas) previously set these up using rcvalert. Any help with these massively appreciated. FoFP From senator at UGCS.CALTECH.EDU Tue Aug 12 14:17:41 1997 From: senator at UGCS.CALTECH.EDU (Bill Bradley) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 11:17:41 -0700 Subject: OFF: procmailrc - HELP! In-Reply-To: <199708121808.TAA24690@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> from "M Holmes" at Aug 12, 97 07:08:52 pm Message-ID: > We've moved from one flavour to another so what I had worked out with > rcvalert scripts and a .maildelivery file now appears to need biff and ^^^^^^ Hey Mike, isn't that an RCalvert script Sorry, couldn't resist.... Bill From mwood at SLICE.AGILE.COM Tue Aug 12 14:37:05 1997 From: mwood at SLICE.AGILE.COM (Marshall Wood) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:37:05 EDT Subject: OFF: procmailrc - HELP! In-Reply-To: <199708121808.TAA24690@holyrood.ed.ac.uk>; from "M Holmes" at Aug 12, 97 7:08 pm Message-ID: >We've moved from one flavour to another so what I had worked out with >rcvalert scripts ^^^^^^^^ OK, hands up - how many other people thought that this was a typo? MWood NP: _Stormwatch_ - Jethro Tull (so there!) From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 12 14:39:17 1997 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 19:39:17 +0100 Subject: OFF: procmailrc - HELP! In-Reply-To: M Holmes's message of Tue, 12 Aug 1997 19:08:52 +0100 Message-ID: Yeah - I *know* the last message went to BOC-l - sorry!! Well I'm definitely NOT an expert and can't even come close to trying some of the stuff you want to do but the following works for me: M Holmes writes: > What I'd ideally like to do is as follows: > > A) I have mail coming in from two lists, BOC-L and LIBERNET-D. I'd like > these filed to folders in Mail/hwin and Mail/lib respectively without > lodging themselves in my main email folder in .Mail :0: * ^Reply-to: BOC Mail/hwin :0: * ^From: somenewsboardid Mail/newsboard these are in .procmailrc and you can add as many other different ones as you like. > > C) When mail arrives, I'd like to be told who it's from, a clipped > subject line, and if it's a list one, marked LIB or BOC-L in an alert > line. I understand that this is where biff comes in. Try: /usr/ucb/biff y I've put it in .bashrc after the bit where it says # make any alterations below this line and it seems to be ok.... > D) If I send mail out that's not for the lists, I'd like a copy kept in > .Mail but I don't want an alert since I already know I've just sent mail. > The account this comes from is fofp at holyrood.ed.ac.uk Yep - I'd like to know how to do this one too! Anyone??? cheers jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 12 14:48:27 1997 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 19:48:27 +0100 Subject: OFF: Uncle Bob and Stoned crows Message-ID: Just did a bit of reading around and found that "bob" (apart from being an old form of UK coinage) once meant someone who was a minor kind of thief or cheap con-man who would trick you. Also that "uncle" once meant a pawnbroker. Whether any underlying sense of these two definitions were amalgamated into the phrase "Bob's your uncle" I can't discover but since the comment is usually used in a derogatory sense where something suddenly happens but can't be relied on or trusted, the element or trickery or uncertainty is usually there. "Stone the Crows" is listed as a purely Australian phrase but "crows" are also defined as lazy, good for nothing layabouts. Whether punishment or something else is implied doesn't get a mention! jill obOtherBizarreAlternativeDefinitions> crown and feathers, bobbles and toggles ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Tue Aug 12 14:59:43 1997 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 19:59:43 +0100 Subject: OFF: Mournblade Message-ID: >Also, anyone care to describe Tygers Of Pan Tang? Obviously metal but any >good? Typical NWOBHM act from Newcastle. 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It all went horribly quiet so I thought I'd send an email and this was the response: ---- Begin forwarded message -------------------------------------- >From MAILER-DAEMON at holyrood.ed.ac.uk Tue Aug 12 19:58:55 1997 Received: from monsoon.dial.pipex.net (monsoon.dial.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) by holyrood.ed.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA28455 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 19:58:54 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <199708121858.TAA28455 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Received: (qmail 3981 invoked for bounce); 12 Aug 1997 18:58:41 -0000 Date: 12 Aug 1997 18:58:41 -0000 From: MAILER-DAEMON at monsoon.dial.pipex.net To: eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk Subject: failure notice Status: RO Hi. This is the qmail-send program at monsoon.dial.pipex.net. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. <4thworld at dial.pipex.com>: This account has been deactivated ---- End forwarded message ---------------------------------------------- I got a phone number from directory enquiries but there's only an answermachine type thing response. It doesn't look good. I think I may have to visit Stirling this weekend 8-( jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU Tue Aug 12 15:43:55 1997 From: lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU (dave cohen) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 15:43:55 -0400 Subject: HW: 4th world Hawkwind Sale In-Reply-To: <199708121905.UAA29190@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> from "J Strobridge" at Aug 12, 97 08:05:52 pm Message-ID: hullo jill-- i got a response from em, indicating they had a new email address-- mfr at dial.pipex.com if you do head over there, there's a reward for making sure my stuff actually went out... cheers dave > > Oh dear....... > > Did anyone else repond to these guys. It all went horribly quiet so I > thought I'd send an email and this was the response: > > > ---- Begin forwarded message -------------------------------------- > > >From MAILER-DAEMON at holyrood.ed.ac.uk Tue Aug 12 19:58:55 1997 > Received: from monsoon.dial.pipex.net (monsoon.dial.pipex.net [158.43.128.69]) > by holyrood.ed.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA28455 > for ; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 19:58:54 +0100 (BST) > Message-Id: <199708121858.TAA28455 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk> > Received: (qmail 3981 invoked for bounce); 12 Aug 1997 18:58:41 -0000 > Date: 12 Aug 1997 18:58:41 -0000 > From: MAILER-DAEMON at monsoon.dial.pipex.net > To: eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk > Subject: failure notice > Status: RO > > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at monsoon.dial.pipex.net. > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. > This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. > > <4thworld at dial.pipex.com>: > This account has been deactivated > > ---- End forwarded message ---------------------------------------------- > > > I got a phone number from directory enquiries but there's only an > answermachine type thing response. > > It doesn't look good. > > I think I may have to visit Stirling this weekend 8-( > > jill > > =========================================================================== > J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk > ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET Tue Aug 12 19:04:13 1997 From: hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:04:13 -0500 Subject: HW; ny mini tour Message-ID: > Curious as to who here is going to the NYC Dates and/or the Festival?? > I am seriously thinking of going to BOTH and would like to meet up with > anyone cause I think I would be going "alone". If you respond to me off Me and a friend of mine(assuming my festival tickets arrive) will going to the sherman festival. I was kind of wondering myself how many people on the list are going to this? I don't think we could afford to see any other shows though. -- Standing on the runway waiting for take off Dan Witt MInneapolis, MN USA From chrisr at TIAC.NET Tue Aug 12 20:33:14 1997 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 20:33:14 -0400 Subject: HW:NY mini tour participants Message-ID: Michael S. Habiby wrote: > Curious as to who here is going to the NYC Dates and/or the Festival?? I will be heading to the NYC and Sherman dates. I am kind of nervous about going to Manhattan with a car full of camping gear and coolers and the whole bit. The way I think it will happen is that the Coney Island High gig will end about 3 or 4 AM and then I will have to drive directly to the campground. I have not estimated the time yet, but it looks like it could be around 8 hours. > I am seriously thinking of going to BOTH and would like to meet up > with > anyone cause I think I would be going "alone". If you respond to me > off > list I will even send a... egads.. picture of my humble self. Hope to > > see bunches of folks there... This is going to be one heck of a weekend. I am so excited just to have the tickets and know that I am going to be experiencing some of my favorite music live. I am looking forward to hearing many of the other bands as well. I know it has been said on this list before, but Arc Met is not be missed. I have seen them play many times in New England, and have been put into a near trance state without any additives whatsoever... I am also anxious to hear Melting Euphoria as well. Of course Alien Planetscapes also has great reviews. I have never heard them live, but I witnessed Doug Walker playing with Sun Machine in Cleveland one night doing HW music. It was a night to remember.I have no idea how many people are coming to the festival, but I expect to see familiar faces from Phoenix to Toronto and every in between. Now if only I can get the LIS EP at some point.... > Mike From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 12 21:21:11 1997 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 02:21:11 +0100 Subject: HW: 4th world Hawkwind Sale In-Reply-To: dave cohen's message of Tue, 12 Aug 1997 15:43:55 -0400 Message-ID: dave cohen writes: > hullo jill-- > > i got a response from em, indicating they had a new email > address-- mfr at dial.pipex.com ah - interesting. I'll check with my bank first to see if they've cashed the cheque and if so then I'll try a polite email to the above. > > if you do head over there, there's a reward for making sure my > stuff actually went out... I'd be delighted to. Let me know (by private email if you'd rather) what you paid for. I've every intention of chasing this further if necessary - phoning Stirling District Council, the local Enterprise Zone, Tourist Office, Info Center, whatever and going up there myself to see exactly what the situation is. I hate things like this. cheers jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Tue Aug 12 23:36:27 1997 From: cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 22:36:27 EST Subject: HW:NY mini tour participants Message-ID: I'm signed on. Just made my plane reservations from Florida to NY. Flying into LaGuardia about noon on Friday, flying out again Monday night about 6:00pm. With a little luck I'll be catching a ride with another list member who plans to drive from NYC to Strange Daze sometime early Saturday morn (and back, I hope), else its a rental car :-(. Now all I need to do is arrange for transport and "entertainment" for Friday afternoon, and back to the airport on Monday. Anyone else flying into LaG on Friday afternoon? Might be a good idea to share a ride in, given the cost of taxis in NYC. Bill/Ron/NY contingent: are ya'll having another bash like the 1995 tour? I remember reading of interesting things, maybe this time I'll get a chance to participate. How early will any festivities begin, and how would I get there from the airport? Another question: does anyone have a good map/plan for getting to Strange Daze after the NYC show? An estimated time-to-travel? Last(?) question: I'm trying to figure out what to do with my camping equipment for Strange Daze. I could carry a little on the plane, and then haul it around Friday nite. Another possibility is to ship it ahead of time to someone, then pick it up when I get there (a bit more trouble). Final possibility is to ship it to someone who plans on driving anyway, and pick it up on Saturday. Any one else having these kinds of thoughts? Captain Cloud cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com From emm14 at COLUMBIA.EDU Tue Aug 12 23:15:30 1997 From: emm14 at COLUMBIA.EDU (Erin Marie Moore) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 23:15:30 -0400 Subject: HW:NY mini tour participants In-Reply-To: <33EFEA86.D7752919@global2000.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 12 Aug 1997, Michael S. Habiby wrote: > Curious as to who here is going to the NYC Dates and/or the Festival?? > I am seriously thinking of going to BOTH and would like to meet up with > anyone cause I think I would be going "alone". If you respond to me off > list I will even send a... egads.. picture of my humble self. Hope to > see bunches of folks there... > > > Mike > I plan on goin to the NYC and Strange Day gig. I'm very excited about these shows and would also like to meet up with the list members. CIH is very small but perhaps by the Jukebox. Also, has anyone heard more about the possibility of Lemmy coming along on this tour? Strider From stayer at PI.NET Mon Aug 11 22:15:37 1997 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 19:15:37 -0700 Subject: BOC live in denmark Message-ID: Scott Heller wrote: > Intro Music > Stariway to the Stars > ETI (incredible solo by buck!) > Buck's Boogie > Cities on Flame > Last days of May > Burning for You > GOdzilla (long bass and drum solos) > Don't Fear the reaper I am /sooo/ glad I didn't go to Denmark! Same old shit! I only would have liked Last Days Of May, I think. Maybe BBoogie. Ah man, those long bass and drum solos... :-( Jerry From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Aug 13 05:04:03 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:04:03 +0100 Subject: OFF: Mournblade In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970812191204.006950c4@online.no> Message-ID: In article <3.0.2.32.19970812191204.006950c4 at online.no>, Christian writes >Also, anyone care to describe Tygers Of Pan Tang? Obviously metal but any >good? > >Christian I don't think you'd like 'em Chris. Unless you like early Def Leppard, that is... -- Jon Browne From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Wed Aug 13 07:36:41 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (FluidDruid) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:36:41 +0000 Subject: OFF: Mournblade In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 10:04 13.08.97 +0100, you wrote: >In article <3.0.2.32.19970812191204.006950c4 at online.no>, Christian > writes >>Also, anyone care to describe Tygers Of Pan Tang? Obviously metal but any >>good? >> >>Christian > >I don't think you'd like 'em Chris. Unless you like early Def Leppard, >that is... > >-- >Jon Browne Hehehe, I don't like.. ANY..Def Leppard :) (PS: What's up with misspelled names of big cats like Leppard and Tygers then?? Huh?) Christian From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Wed Aug 13 05:52:45 1997 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:52:45 +0100 Subject: OFF: FAO Jerry In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 12 Aug 1997 16:10:59 BST." <199708121510.QAA12161@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > The moron (in a red sports car of course) immediately took a road rage > attack and gave chase. I took this as mostly light amusement since it Just like to point out that not _all_ drivers of red sports car are necessarily morons :-) It wasn't me btw. cheers, Tim erm well OK, my MX5 is indeed red. ObYeahWhatever: _Crash_ From nexus at PANIX.COM Wed Aug 13 07:36:58 1997 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 07:36:58 -0400 Subject: HW:NY mini tour participants In-Reply-To: from "Erin Marie Moore" at Aug 12, 97 11:15:30 pm Message-ID: >> Curious as to who here is going to the NYC Dates and/or the Festival?? >> I am seriously thinking of going to BOTH and would like to meet up with >> anyone cause I think I would be going "alone". If you respond to me off >> list I will even send a... egads.. picture of my humble self. Hope to >> see bunches of folks there... >> Mike >I plan on goin to the NYC and Strange Day gig. I'm very excited about >these shows and would also like to meet up with the list members. >CIH is very small but perhaps by the Jukebox. Also, has anyone heard more >about the possibility of Lemmy coming along on this tour? >Strider I picked up my tix for the CIH gig yesterday (#'s 18 and 19), and the bar guy selling tickets said that Lemmy was playing the gig. Could someone send me the specs on the Festival again, I seem to have lost them. Finally, on a more or less unrelated point ... I seem to remember somebody on the list, possibly years ago, looking for a Japanese release of one of the Hawkwind albums ... I just saw the Japanese release of In Search of Space, so if that was the one, let me know. JB From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 13 08:04:26 1997 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:04:26 +0100 Subject: HW: Japanese ISoS In-Reply-To: Jeff Berry's message of Wed, 13 Aug 1997 07:36:58 -0400 Message-ID: Jeff Berry writes: > Finally, on a more or less unrelated point ... > I seem to remember somebody on the list, possibly years ago, looking for > a Japanese release of one of the Hawkwind albums ... I just saw the > Japanese release of In Search of Space, so if that was the one, let me know. 12" vinyl? In which case yes it was. FoFP wants this - and if he doesn't then I do! It should have an extra Silver Machine track on it cheers jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From nexus at PANIX.COM Wed Aug 13 08:21:24 1997 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 08:21:24 -0400 Subject: HW: Japanese ISoS In-Reply-To: <199708131204.NAA28955@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> from "J Strobridge" at Aug 13, 97 01:04:26 pm Message-ID: >Jeff Berry writes: >> Finally, on a more or less unrelated point ... >> I seem to remember somebody on the list, possibly years ago, looking for >> a Japanese release of one of the Hawkwind albums ... I just saw the >> Japanese release of In Search of Space, so if that was the one, let me know. >12" vinyl? In which case yes it was. FoFP wants this - and if he >doesn't then I do! It should have an extra Silver Machine track on it >cheers >jill AH...this was a CD release. Sounds like my brain coughed up incomplete info. Sorry if I got anyone's hopes up. JB From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Aug 13 06:15:45 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 11:15:45 +0100 Subject: OFF: procmailrc - HELP! In-Reply-To: <199708121834.OAA08892@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: In article <199708121834.OAA08892 at listserv.spc.edu>, Marshall Wood writes >OK, hands up - how many other people thought that this was a typo? Yup! -- Jon Browne From monsieur at MYMAIL.NET Wed Aug 13 09:02:08 1997 From: monsieur at MYMAIL.NET (DAMON CAPEHART) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 08:02:08 -0500 Subject: HW:NY mini tour participants Message-ID: On Tue, 12 Aug 1997 20:33:14 -0400 Chris Raymond wrote: >The way I think it will happen is that the Coney Island High gig will end >about 3 or 4 AM and then I will have to drive directly to the campground. I >have not estimated the time yet, but it looks like it could be around 8 >hours. Differing web resources estimate driving times between 6.5 and 7.5 hours. Speaking of, I have a question: Two different browsers give me two different routes from NYC (Newark, really) to Sherman. Both are approximately the same length (about a 10 mile difference - 370-380 miles). 1) through Pennsylvania, mostly on US-80 (two hundred something miles), then north (via a number of turns) to Hwy 17 about half an hour east of that small lake near Sherman. 2) Just a bit on US-80, then north into NY and west on some highway (I forget which one) for the bulk of the rest of the trip. Question: Which do you think will be faster? Are the cops in either state (NY or PA) more strict about speeding than in the other? Web resources that I've checked with are www.mapsonus.com and www.mapquest.com, as well as one other that I can't remember. For "fastest route", mapsonus shows the PA route and mapquest shows the NY route. To get the same results that I got on each, submit either *Newark, NJ, to Sherman, NY* or *Parsippany, NJ, to Sherman, NY*, but just be consistent. Thanks, Damon From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 13 09:07:35 1997 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 14:07:35 +0100 Subject: HW: Japanese ISoS In-Reply-To: J Strobridge's message of Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:04:26 +0100 Message-ID: J Strobridge writes: > Jeff Berry writes: > > > Finally, on a more or less unrelated point ... > > I seem to remember somebody on the list, possibly years ago, looking for > > a Japanese release of one of the Hawkwind albums ... I just saw the > > Japanese release of In Search of Space, so if that was the one, let me know. > > > 12" vinyl? In which case yes it was. FoFP wants this - and if he > doesn't then I do! It should have an extra Silver Machine track on it No, I think it's Doremi which has te extra track. > > cheers > > jill FoFP From micci at SCI.FI Wed Aug 13 09:12:15 1997 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 16:12:15 +0300 Subject: HW: 4th world Hawkwind Sale Message-ID: >Oh dear....... > >Did anyone else repond to these guys. It all went horribly quiet so I >thought I'd send an email and this was the response: > Hi! I still waiting my albums. I send email and get this: yeah, very soory for the delay, i have been away for a few days, you will recive your records by the end of the week / beginning of next That was last week and I still waiting ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Just `cos you got the power Doesn?t mean you got the right /\/\ -Lemmy //\/\\ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _____//____\\_____ \\ // Miikka Wagner \\/\// hawk at micci.pp.sci.fi \/\/ http://www.sci.fi/~micci From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 13 09:51:15 1997 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 14:51:15 +0100 Subject: HW: Japanese ISoS In-Reply-To: M Holmes's message of Wed, 13 Aug 1997 14:07:35 +0100 Message-ID: M Holmes writes: > J Strobridge writes: > > > Jeff Berry writes: > > > > > Finally, on a more or less unrelated point ... > > > I seem to remember somebody on the list, possibly years ago, looking for > > > a Japanese release of one of the Hawkwind albums ... I just saw the > > > Japanese release of In Search of Space, so if that was the one, let me know. > > > > > > 12" vinyl? In which case yes it was. FoFP wants this - and if he > > doesn't then I do! It should have an extra Silver Machine track on it > > No, I think it's Doremi which has te extra track. ah - indeed so. I misread the discography. It's the Spanish ISoS which has an extra Silver Machine track. Comes of responding to email while hungry and too hot - in about that order. Sorry! I'm not hungry now. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From abrevard at SHL.COM Wed Aug 13 11:34:20 1997 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD Adrian R.) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:34:20 -0500 Subject: Brain Surgeons - A Challenge Message-ID: As if Al and the Surgeons are not busy enough, I'd like to issue a new challenge to this hard working band. How about the Surgeons and Savatage combine talents and re-do the Imaginos saga. Listening to Dead Winter Dead I think Savatage could add an erie orchestral sound to the original songs and help finish off the unpublished ones in a way Al would appreciate. How about it Big AB, think you can find a few months in your schedule and undertake this project? L8er lil' ab "I'm making gravy without the lumps!" - Evil Midnight Bomber obcd - The Horse That Bud Bought, Galactic Cowboys From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Aug 13 08:17:35 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:17:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: Mournblade In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970813113641.006b30a0@online.no> Message-ID: In article <3.0.2.32.19970813113641.006b30a0 at online.no>, FluidDruid writes >(PS: What's up with misspelled names of big cats like Leppard and Tygers >then?? Huh?) > >Christian Dunno. Could be a surefire formula for success, tho' Ever thought of starting The Oslo Panthas? -- Jon Browne From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 13 13:05:09 1997 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. 6L6) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:05:09 EDT Subject: Brain Surgeons - A Challenge Message-ID: > From: "BREVARD Adrian R." > As if Al and the Surgeons are not busy enough, I'd like to issue a new > challenge to this hard working band. How about the Surgeons and > Savatage combine talents and re-do the Imaginos saga. Listening to Dead > Winter Dead I think Savatage could add an erie orchestral sound to the > original songs and help finish off the unpublished ones in a way Al > would appreciate. How about it Big AB, think you can find a few months > in your schedule and undertake this project? > > > L8er > > lil' ab I'm all for a full-length treatment of the Imaginos saga, but I'm leery of bringing in another band to do it. I'd rather see it done like the existing Imaginos record, except with Al and tBS being a core group for the project, and then bringing in guests to appear on certain songs where needed. I think it would be too big a project for another band to guest on, and that such an undertaking would take a really long time, and that no band would want to give up their current projects to be a part of it. If Al used guests, then he could record things piecemeal, and each guest wouldn't need to learn that much material... theo From ChStier at AOL.COM Wed Aug 13 13:23:34 1997 From: ChStier at AOL.COM (Chris Stier) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:23:34 -0400 Subject: HW: 4th world Hawkwind Sale Message-ID: I ordered a bunch of the set sale merchandise and it all arrived safely to my address in the United States last Thursday. Maybe he's just sorting out all the bids at this point... Chris From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 13 13:34:22 1997 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. 6L6) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:34:22 EDT Subject: OFF: Mournblade Message-ID: > From: Jon Browne > In article <3.0.2.32.19970813113641.006b30a0 at online.no>, FluidDruid > writes > >(PS: What's up with misspelled names of big cats like Leppard and Tygers > >then?? Huh?) > > > >Christian > I always figured Def Leppard was a not-so-subtle nod at Led Zeppelin, or maybe, since DL was formed when all its members were kids, none of them knew how to spell it right? theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 13 13:38:58 1997 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. 6L6) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 13:38:58 EDT Subject: BOC in Denmark Message-ID: I agree with Jerry's sentiments about the BOC setlist, but disagree that it wass well enough to miss the show. If you could hear the way BD's playing the guitar these days, you'd not want to miss any chance to see them. I just saw them last month, and I'm going to see them again Sunday, even though I know it'll be an identical set, and even shorter, as BOC will be a support act. And, that means they'll play, what, 45 mins-1 hr? But man, Buck is simply devastating these days. Almost makes me agree with AB that maybe its time for BD to do a solo gig. It's almost a solo gig nowadays anyway, as BD has assumed a lot of the frontman duties, and the set includes way more of BD's vocal songs than EB's... theo From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Wed Aug 13 16:53:06 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 20:53:06 +0000 Subject: BOC in Denmark In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 13:38 13.08.97 EDT, theo wrote: > I just saw them last month, and I'm going to see them >again Sunday, even though I know it'll be an identical set, and even >shorter, as BOC will be a support act. Let us know which puppet-show that's headlining :) Christian From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Wed Aug 13 15:57:56 1997 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. 6L6) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:57:56 EDT Subject: BOC in Denmark Message-ID: From: Christian > At 13:38 13.08.97 EDT, theo wrote: > > I just saw them last month, and I'm going to see them > >again Sunday, even though I know it'll be an identical set, and even > >shorter, as BOC will be a support act. > > Let us know which puppet-show that's headlining :) > > > Christian Howls! Actually it's a huge outdoor festival, with Little Feat headlining. A local radio station puts it on every year, with a bunch of decent bands, for only 5 bucks! It's not to make money, really, just put on a big show, with humungoud fireworks after the gig. Should be well in excess of 20,000 atending... theo From mordru at MAGG.NET Wed Aug 13 16:17:07 1997 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 16:17:07 -0400 Subject: BOC in Denmark Message-ID: > From: Christian > >Howls! Actually it's a huge outdoor festival, with Little Feat >headlining. A local radio station puts it on every year, with a >bunch of decent bands, for only 5 bucks! It's not to make money, >really, just put on a big show, with humungoud fireworks after the >gig. Should be well in excess of 20,000 atending... They're going to play "Fireworks" after the gig? Without Albert? +---------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold (mordru at magg.net), aka | Roger Shrubstaff, Guildmaster of Reeves | Duchy of Silverwater (BL), Amtgard | aka Asgrim Dragon -=UDIC=- | +--------B-L-U-E--?-Y-S-T-E-R--C-U-L-T--+ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random From cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Wed Aug 13 20:09:41 1997 From: cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 19:09:41 EST Subject: HW: 4th world Hawkwind sale Message-ID: Well, I've already received the 3 LPs and tour program that I ordered. They arrived in a rather flimsy thin cardboard mailer, but were fortunately intact and without obvious (new) damage. I ordered them about a week after the original postings, and used a credit card to pay. So, no complaints from me, although I did get a bit worried for a few days towards the end there. Guess they arrived about a week ago, here in Florida USA. Captain Cloud cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com From stayer at PI.NET Wed Aug 13 21:09:47 1997 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 18:09:47 -0700 Subject: OFF: Amsterdam Message-ID: Ted Jackson wrote: > Anyway, Amsterdam was beyond description. Like New York without peole > trying to kill each other! I've never been to NY, but when I was in San Francisco, I thought that place had kind of an atmosphere like in Amsterdam. Pretty relaxed, mostly because there are so many different kinds of people - it just has to be a (kinda) tolerant society. Jerry From stayer at PI.NET Wed Aug 13 21:36:14 1997 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 18:36:14 -0700 Subject: OFF: I'm Engaged!!! :-) Message-ID: Chris Stier wrote: > Or in my case, my limo ride to my ceremony didn't show, so I ended up driving > myself and my best man to my own ceremony, arriving there with minutes to > spare... Of course it still turned out to be the best day of my life. Hm, if the day of the marriage is supposed to be the best day of one's life, then the days after that, ie. the rest of your days :-), would be less... I wouldn't like to marry a girl when I know all the days to come are less than the very first! :-) Jerry From rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM Thu Aug 14 04:41:50 1997 From: rich-l at GEOCITIES.COM (Rich Lockwood) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 09:41:50 +0100 Subject: OFF: Tygers (Was: Mournblade) Message-ID: > > Also, anyone care to describe Tygers Of Pan Tang? Obviously metal but any > good? > Yup. Top Geordie band in their day, feat. John Sykes who went on to Whitesnake. Sounds a bit dated now tho' Cheers, Rich. ObCD "Voyage to the bottom of the road" - HMHB From sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK Thu Aug 14 06:43:33 1997 From: sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK (Si) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 10:43:33 -0000 Subject: SFX Book Poll In-Reply-To: <970813204453_-603241880@emout07.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: In this month's issue of SFX magazine they are running a poll to find the favourite 50 scifi/fantasy/horror books of all-time. You can vote via the web at www.sfnet.co.uk. How about we try to get some of Mike's books on there. Si -- 'I live in a big dark house, and nobody's here but me and my mouse' http://village.vossnet.co.uk/s/sihalley/index.html From acobley at COMPUTING.DUNDEE.AC.UK Thu Aug 14 06:11:21 1997 From: acobley at COMPUTING.DUNDEE.AC.UK (Andy C) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 11:11:21 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind -Scotland 97 Message-ID: Just to let people know, I talked to the ticket agency for Fat Sams in Dundee. They where quite sure the gig on the 18th October will now not happen. Seems the promoter thought they would not fill the place. Has anyone got details for getting tickets from the Liquid Rooms in Edinburgh and The Garage in Glasgow ? Andy C -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1397 bytes Desc: not available URL: From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Aug 14 07:38:45 1997 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. 6L6) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 07:38:45 EDT Subject: OFF: Amsterdam Message-ID: > > From: Jerry > > I've never been to NY, but when I was in San Francisco, I thought that place had kind of > an atmosphere like in Amsterdam. Pretty relaxed, mostly because there are so many > different kinds of people - it just has to be a (kinda) tolerant society. > > Jerry I'm an east-coaster, asnd only seen SF briefly, but I believe you've hit it right. It's a really tolerant and hip city. I hear New Orleans is similar, but I haven't made it there yet. On a small scale, Key West is really laid back, and of course, all of Hawaii is in its own universe, the ultimate in laissez-faire theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Aug 14 07:50:48 1997 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. 6L6) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 07:50:48 EDT Subject: Bombers at twelve o'clock high? Message-ID: > From: Christian > > > At 13:38 13.08.97 EDT, theo wrote: > > > I just saw them last month, and I'm going to see them > > >again Sunday, even though I know it'll be an identical set, and even > > >shorter, as BOC will be a support act. > > > > Let us know which puppet-show that's headlining :) > > > > > > Christian > Say, given your past history, I was wondering if you've been implicated in any of the terrorist activity regarding the olympics? And why are they against hosting the olympics anyway? Most countries will fellate the olympics folks to get the olympics, and you guys are screaming to take them away? theo From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Thu Aug 14 07:54:57 1997 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 12:54:57 +0100 Subject: OFF: Amsterdam Message-ID: >I'm an east-coaster, asnd only seen SF briefly, Just a poor man's Sydney, isn't it? Or is it the other way round? :) - Andy ObCD: Hawkwind Future Reconstructions - _Ritual of the Solstice_. You know, it's really quite pleasant, and now and then you can even recognise a bit! -- mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Thu Aug 14 10:19:33 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 14:19:33 +0000 Subject: Bombers at twelve o'clock high?/Oslo Panthhas?? In-Reply-To: <105BE7B7D5B@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: Jon B. writes: >Ever thought of starting The Oslo Panthas? theo writes: >Say, given your past history, I was wondering if you've been >implicated in any of the terrorist activity regarding the olympics? >And why are they against hosting the olympics anyway? Most countries >will fellate the olympics folks to get the olympics, and you guys are >screaming to take them away? >theo I write: Now now, a drunken brawl, sonic assaults and some dead cockroaches doth not a guilty concience make, nor doth ith maketh me a brutal therrorith... I have no idea what you are talking about. I stopped reading the papers when I retreated away from The Real World into The Really Real World. Olympics shmolympics. Fellatio you say? Have I missed something here? Another group of people making the world less comfortable? Christian (woke up this morning from a dream where the Versace murder was part of The Conspiracy) From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Aug 14 09:27:23 1997 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. 6L6) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 09:27:23 EDT Subject: Bombers at twelve o'clock high?/Oslo Panthhas?? Message-ID: > From: Christian > > theo writes: > > >Say, given your past history, I was wondering if you've been > >implicated in any of the terrorist activity regarding the olympics? > >And why are they against hosting the olympics anyway? Most countries > >will fellate the olympics folks to get the olympics, and you guys are > >screaming to take them away? > >theo > > I write: > > Now now, a drunken brawl, sonic assaults and some dead cockroaches doth not > a guilty concience make, nor doth ith maketh me a brutal therrorith... > > I have no idea what you are talking about. I stopped reading the papers Somebody bombed the Olympic stadium, aparently making it unusable. And this was supposedly done by people who don't want the olympics to come to Sweden, as it would scare off the people who choose sites for the games... > when I retreated away from The Real World into The Really Real World. > Olympics shmolympics. Fellatio you say? Have I missed something here? Well, I was speaking figuratively, but ya never know... > Another group of people making the world less comfortable? > > Christian > > (woke up this morning from a dream where the Versace murder was part of The > Conspiracy) From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 14 09:31:25 1997 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 14:31:25 +0100 Subject: Bombers at twelve o'clock high?/Oslo Panthhas?? In-Reply-To: Christian's message of Thu, 14 Aug 1997 14:19:33 +0000 Message-ID: Christian writes: > Jon B. writes: > >Say, given your past history, I was wondering if you've been > >implicated in any of the terrorist activity regarding the olympics? > >And why are they against hosting the olympics anyway? Most countries > >will fellate the olympics folks to get the olympics, and you guys are > >screaming to take them away? > >theo > Olympics shmolympics. Fellatio you say? The Olympics are going to be in Fellatio? In Italy? > Christian FoFP From lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU Thu Aug 14 09:44:15 1997 From: lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU (dave cohen) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 09:44:15 -0400 Subject: HW:NY mini tour participants In-Reply-To: <199708131136.HAA01376@panix.com> from "Jeff Berry" at Aug 13, 97 07:36:58 am Message-ID: > > >> Curious as to who here is going to the NYC Dates and/or the Festival?? > >> I am seriously thinking of going to BOTH and would like to meet up with well i'll be at the NYC gig too (got my ticket n everything!) just look for the fellow in the turquoise beret (spottable in any crowd! sniper friendly!) has there been any consensus on meeting place before/at the gig?? --dave lapis at pobox.upenn.edu From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Thu Aug 14 09:50:46 1997 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 14:50:46 +0100 Subject: Bombers at twelve o'clock high?/Oslo Panthhas?? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 14 Aug 1997 14:31:25 BST." <199708141331.OAA10567@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > Olympics shmolympics. Fellatio you say? > > The Olympics are going to be in Fellatio? In Italy? > > > Christian > > FoFP No, I think he said fellatio was going to be in the Olympics. Tim From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Thu Aug 14 14:09:31 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 18:09:31 +0000 Subject: Bombers at twelve o'clock high?/Oslo Panthhas?? In-Reply-To: <3A9A5A02@library.syr.edu> Message-ID: >> theo writes: >Somebody bombed the Olympic stadium, aparently making it unusable. >And this was supposedly done by people who don't want the olympics to >come to Sweden, as it would scare off the people who choose sites for >the games... Ah, well that's those goofy Swedes for ya... Norwegians however, will do anything for the slightest bit of positive international recognition (like hey, there's blondes, meatballs, sm?rg?sbord and herring here too! Tourists go to the left on the map!) Anyway, theo, don't mix up those Swedes and Norwegians and Danes huh :) Christian From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Thu Aug 14 14:12:18 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 18:12:18 +0000 Subject: Fellatio at twelve o'clock high?/Oslo Panthhas?? In-Reply-To: <199708141331.OAA10567@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: M Holmes writes: >The Olympics are going to be in Fellatio? In Italy? huhuuhuhhh...... yeah. But without Versace. Christian From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Thu Aug 14 14:26:51 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 18:26:51 +0000 Subject: Bombers at twelve o'clock high?/Oslo Panthhas?? In-Reply-To: <199708141350.OAA15788@dibble.aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: >No, I think he said fellatio was going to be in the Olympics. > >Tim Well, that's the wacky post-sexual revolution Sweden for ya! Christian From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 14 12:51:02 1997 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 17:51:02 +0100 Subject: Bombers at twelve o'clock high?/Oslo Panthhas?? In-Reply-To: Christian's message of Thu, 14 Aug 1997 18:09:31 +0000 Message-ID: Christian writes: > Anyway, theo, don't mix up those Swedes and Norwegians and Danes huh :) > almost as serious as confusing the Scots and the English. Come the revolution...... jill obHawkwindContent: putting chunks of Calvert's poetry into my screen saver. It certainly catches people's attention! ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Thu Aug 14 12:58:27 1997 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. 6L6) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 12:58:27 EDT Subject: Bombers at twelve o'clock high?/Oslo Panthhas?? Message-ID: > From: Christian > >> theo writes: > > >Somebody bombed the Olympic stadium, aparently making it unusable. > >And this was supposedly done by people who don't want the olympics to > >come to Sweden, as it would scare off the people who choose sites for > >the games... > > Ah, well that's those goofy Swedes for ya... Norwegians however, will do > anything for the slightest bit of positive international recognition (like > hey, there's blondes, meatballs, sm?rg?sbord and herring here too! Tourists > go to the left on the map!) > > Anyway, theo, don't mix up those Swedes and Norwegians and Danes huh :) > > Christian Jeez, now I'm so confused I'm not even sure where the fuckin' bomb was... theo From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 14 13:07:47 1997 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 18:07:47 +0100 Subject: HW: 4th world Hawkwind sale In-Reply-To: cjohnson's message of Wed, 13 Aug 1997 19:09:41 EST Message-ID: cjohnson writes: > I ordered them about a week after the original postings, and used a > credit card to pay. So, no complaints from me, although I did get > a bit worried for a few days towards the end there. Guess they > arrived about a week ago, here in Florida USA. I'm glad to hear some folk are getting their stuff. It sounds as if they are busy setting up some new business venture and possibly other small matters like sending out customers' orders have got a bit delayed. On the other hand, if it means they are looking out some more secure packaging to wrap my order in I'll be prepared to wait awhile yet. The good news is that I managed to speak to a human there the other day (not the person in charge tho') so hopefully something will arrive in due course. Apparently it's the other bloke's personal Hawkwind collection that was being sold off (probably to raise finance) so I don't guess he's in that much of a hurry to parcel it off. optimistically..... jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From AGrohe at IGATE.SPRINT.COM Thu Aug 14 15:22:53 1997 From: AGrohe at IGATE.SPRINT.COM (Allan T. Grohe, Jr.) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 14:22:53 CDT Subject: HW: East Coast "tour" info sought Message-ID: OK, I've sort of missed the boat on the tour info: who, what, where, when? Some friends are going to be going whom I hadn't expected to attend, so I'm going to try to head out for a show or two. Allan. obHWatLast: got the remasters in the mail yesterday, will have to listen to them tonight! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Allan T. Grohe, Jr. agrohe at igate.sprint.com http://www.rpg.net/ehp/imrryr iscladoc at idir.net From stayer at PI.NET Thu Aug 14 10:21:26 1997 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 07:21:26 -0700 Subject: BOC in Denmark Message-ID: Ted Jackson jr. 6L6 wrote: > I agree with Jerry's sentiments about the BOC setlist, but disagree > that it wass well enough to miss the show. The show was about 800 kilometers from here - that's another reason. > Almost makes me agree with AB that maybe its time for BD to do a solo > gig. It's almost a solo gig nowadays anyway, as BD has assumed a lot > of the frontman duties, and the set includes way more of BD's vocal > songs than EB's... I wouldn't mind at all seeing BD doing solo gigs with other musicians, and playing old BOC songs. Not the real thing? I wouldn't mind. At least a change. Jerry From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Thu Aug 14 22:10:45 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 02:10:45 +0000 Subject: BOC in Mojo In-Reply-To: <33F31466.4C21@pi.net> Message-ID: Mojo magazine have tossed together a "top 100 singles of all time" article in their August isse... BOC made # 80 with "(Don't Fear) The Reaper"! Each single has a little bio piece around the band/song, and this is the BOC entry....: ------------------ "Extremely poetic. A sad ballad about a man who wants to die with his true love before their love is spoiled by earthly things." - Chris Collingwood, Fountains Of Wayne According to producer/manager/theorist Sandy Pearlman, the Blue Oyster Cult was conjured from equal parts Doors, Byrds and Black Sabbath. Early BOC incarnations had majored on the West Coast flavourings; it was the secret Sab ingredient that helped the familiar BOC identity coalesce, although their biggest hit brought The Byrds back into the fore. "Guys, this is it," engineer Shelly Yakus announced at the end of the first take. "The legendary once-in-a-lifetime-groove!" Lead guitarist Donald 'Buck Dharma' Roeser had delivered the song with its arrangement virtually complete. What evolved in the studio was the extended solo section; it took them nearly as long to edit the five-minute track down to manageable length as it did to record it. But Reaper survived the knife to become a hit, the theme of classic horror flick Halloween, and a recurring favourite in the works of Stephen King. Buck Dharma's little ditty about the undead has become his band's undying accomplishment. --------------------- No Hawkwind entry tho!! Christian From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Fri Aug 15 07:07:12 1997 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:07:12 +0200 Subject: OFF: Mournblade Message-ID: At 11:36 AM 8/13/97 +0000, you wrote: >At 10:04 13.08.97 +0100, you wrote: >>In article <3.0.2.32.19970812191204.006950c4 at online.no>, Christian >> writes >>>Also, anyone care to describe Tygers Of Pan Tang? Obviously metal but any >>>good? >>> >>>Christian >> >>I don't think you'd like 'em Chris. Unless you like early Def Leppard, >>that is... >> >>-- >>Jon Browne > IMHO NWOBHM sucks. (such a funny little message -right?!?) -Daniel "Vad? jultraditioner? Hos oss har vi nya traditioner varje ?r" (CG) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN +46 480 245 11 From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Fri Aug 15 07:52:48 1997 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:52:48 +0200 Subject: Bombers at twelve o'clock high?/Oslo Panthhas?? Message-ID: At 12:58 PM 8/14/97 EDT, you wrote: >> From: Christian > >> >> theo writes: >> >> >Somebody bombed the Olympic stadium, aparently making it unusable. >> >And this was supposedly done by people who don't want the olympics to >> >come to Sweden, as it would scare off the people who choose sites for >> >the games... >> >> Ah, well that's those goofy Swedes for ya... Norwegians however, will do >> anything for the slightest bit of positive international recognition (like >> hey, there's blondes, meatballs, sm?rg?sbord and herring here too! Tourists >> go to the left on the map!) >> >> Anyway, theo, don't mix up those Swedes and Norwegians and Danes huh :) >> >> Christian > >Jeez, now I'm so confused I'm not even sure where the fuckin' bomb >was... >theo > > My God!!! Who was mixing up the countries in Scandinavia the last time?!?! Now it's theo... [I'm so tiiiiiired...] Well, the bomb was placed in Stockholm (i.e the capital of Sweden -a little nation in the north of Europe -approx. 8,5 million citizens, the country that invented the smorgasbord, the ombudsman and the mixed economy ) in the Olympic Stadion (built 1930 something... I think) and blew up a media grandstand (?). Several other sports facilities in Stockholm have been burned this summer and one theory is that this is done as a protest against Stockholm applying for Olympic Games in 2004. Though this time is the only time they have used the "heavy artillery" (i.e the bomb). The day after the attack newspapers and radiostations in Sweden received mails from someone/ some people who call himself/themself "vi som byggde Sverige" [we who built Sweden] and said that they are responsible for the attacks. The same group placed bombs in one or two supermarkets in Gothenburg (second largest city in Sweden, 500 000 citizens, a big harbour and the lowest CD-prices in Sweden) around Christmas as protest against the politics in Sweden. Do you get it?!? ...and Christian (i.e "Norrbagge" med stort och grovt ordf?rr?d)... I'll take care of you later... :-) mvh -Daniel Wikdahl ps Christian... har kommer n?gra till som jag gl?mde f?rrut, dom ?r ganska grova men v?ldigt kul... ?derp?k och Sk?ggbiff... gissa vad som betyder vad :-) ds "Vad? jultraditioner? Hos oss har vi nya traditioner varje ?r" (CG) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN +46 480 245 11 From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Aug 15 07:59:21 1997 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. 6L6) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 07:59:21 EDT Subject: BOC in Denmark Message-ID: >> From: Jerry > Ted Jackson jr. 6L6 wrote: > > Almost makes me agree with AB that maybe its time for BD to do a solo > > gig. It's almost a solo gig nowadays anyway, as BD has assumed a lot > > of the frontman duties, and the set includes way more of BD's vocal > > songs than EB's... > > I wouldn't mind at all seeing BD doing solo gigs with other musicians, and playing old > BOC songs. Not the real thing? I wouldn't mind. At least a change. > > Jerry Wouldn't bother me either. Think of it: EB's a virtual non-entity now, so it leaves just AL and BD from the original band on tour right now. And if he did a solo gig playing BOC songs? Hey, who wrote all that shit? They're his songs anyway, he just wrote them for the band. After Agents, most all BOC material came to the band essentially done. The band members demoed the stuff at home in their home studios. The band just polished the songs. So if BD wanted to do BOC songs, what's the problem. Plus, if BD did a solo show, you can bet he'd add stuff from Flat Out, and maybe new stuff, like Gamera. BTW, wasn't the Atlanta gig supposed to be made available on video and audio? Has anyone heard an update on this. Looks like John's been on vacation... theo From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Fri Aug 15 08:05:35 1997 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. 6L6) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 08:05:35 EDT Subject: Bombers at twelve o'clock high?/Oslo Panthhas?? Message-ID: > From: Daniel Wikdahl > The same group placed bombs in one or two supermarkets in Gothenburg (second > largest city in Sweden, 500 000 citizens, a big harbour and the lowest > CD-prices in Sweden) around Christmas as protest against the politics in Sweden. > Do you get it?!? > ...and Christian (i.e "Norrbagge" med stort och grovt ordf?rr?d)... I'll > take care of you later... :-) > > mvh -Daniel Wikdahl What's to protest about the government n Sweden? You guys should live here! You'd have to nuke the whole country to protest the government here... theo From mordru at MAGG.NET Fri Aug 15 08:17:19 1997 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 08:17:19 -0400 Subject: Bombers at twelve o'clock high?/Oslo Panthhas?? Message-ID: >My God!!! Who was mixing up the countries in Scandinavia the last time?!?! >Now it's theo... [I'm so tiiiiiired...] >Well, the bomb was placed in Stockholm (i.e the capital of Sweden -a little >nation in the north of Europe -approx. 8,5 million citizens, the country that little? It's one of the largest area-wise. In Europe, only Russia, France (and maybe unified Germany, I haven't updated my memory) are larger... >mails from someone/ some people who call himself/themself "vi som byggde >Sverige" [we who built Sweden] and said that they are responsible for the >attacks. Maybe some kind of anniversery of Alfred Nobel? +---------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold (mordru at magg.net), aka | Roger Shrubstaff, Guildmaster of Reeves | Duchy of Silverwater (BL), Amtgard | aka Asgrim Dragon -=UDIC=- | +--------B-L-U-E--?-Y-S-T-E-R--C-U-L-T--+ "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 15 08:28:49 1997 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:28:49 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind -Scotland 97 In-Reply-To: Andy C's message of Thu, 14 Aug 1997 11:11:21 +0100 Message-ID: Andy C writes: > Sams in Dundee. They where quite sure the gig on the 18th October > will now not happen. Seems the promoter thought they would not > fill the place. > > Has anyone got details for getting tickets from the Liquid Rooms > in Edinburgh and The Garage in Glasgow ? Dunno about the Garage but if you need tix for the Liquid Rooms phone either Ripping Records: 0131 226 7010 or Inside Tickets 0131 477 8222. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Aug 15 12:27:23 1997 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 17:27:23 +0100 Subject: NIK: Everlasting Life... Message-ID: Via Induced Suspended-animation... The 20th anniversary of the (alleged) death of the King gives us all an excuse to dust down our scratched-to-buggery copies of _The Maximum Effect_, and play track 1, side 1! - Andy ObCD: anything in my new Cambridge Audio CD player! Sounds like my whole collection's been remastered! -- mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Aug 15 08:34:09 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:34:09 +0100 Subject: OFF: Amsterdam In-Reply-To: <01BCA8B1.60EF3B20@host5-99-51-23.btinternet.com> Message-ID: In article <01BCA8B1.60EF3B20 at host5-99-51-23.btinternet.com>, Andrew Gilham writes >ObCD: Hawkwind Future Reconstructions - _Ritual of the Solstice_. You >know, it's really quite pleasant, and now and then you can even recognise a >bit! >-- I really like it meself. -- Jon B From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Aug 15 12:39:39 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 17:39:39 +0100 Subject: OFF : The Verve Message-ID: Really sorry for being so utterly irredeemably OFF but as you're me pals and it's a bit quiet, I had to say I saw The Verve at the Hammersmith Palais last night and they were totally fucking amazing. Really. Loudest gig i've seen since Motorhead/Bomber tour, if not ever. Best gig I've been to since Hawkwind/Stonehenge '84, IF NOT EVER! (and after 500/600 gigs I do not say this lightly) After a few gigs by highly touted acts where I've been thinking "what am I doing here?" these guys totally restored my faith in blistering rocking out!!! My neck hurts and my ears are still ringing. Brilliant!! (The new single's a bit duff tho'!) -- Jon Browne ObCondition - tintanitis From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Fri Aug 15 13:24:00 1997 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 18:24:00 +0100 Subject: OFF: Amsterdam In-Reply-To: Jon Browne's mail of Fri, 15 Aug 97 13:34 +0100 Message-ID: On 15 Aug 13:34, Jon Browne wrote: > In article <01BCA8B1.60EF3B20 at host5-99-51-23.btinternet.com>, Andrew > Gilham writes > >ObCD: Hawkwind Future Reconstructions - _Ritual of the Solstice_. You > >know, it's really quite pleasant, and now and then you can even recognise a > >bit! > >-- > > I really like it meself. I reckon it's that new CD player. It's knocked all the fluff out of his bits, and refreshed the parts that ordinary hi-fi fails to reach! Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Mayfield Road, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. Tel: +44 131 472 4782 From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Fri Aug 15 16:57:08 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 20:57:08 +0000 Subject: Jada-jada at twelve o'clock high? In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19970815115248.00949efc@mailbox.mc.hik.se> Message-ID: Daniel skriver: >My God!!! Who was mixing up the countries in Scandinavia the last time?!?! >Now it's theo... [I'm so tiiiiiired...] Hey - it WAS theo last time! He didn't pay attention in geography class, - where are you theo?? Put your fingers on your desk while I take this ruler here.... >Well, the bomb was placed in Stockholm (i.e the capital of Sweden -a little >nation in the north of Europe -approx. 8,5 million citizens, the country that >invented the smorgasbord, the ombudsman and the mixed economy ) Here's a bit of counter-propaganda, theo, pay atten-shun or your fingernails get another stroke!!: 1) "smorgasbord" = table with slices of bread with various condiments on or placed next to them (sometimes in various states of biological decay). Eat sandwiches with knife and fork, and avoid the beer! 2) "ombudsman" = beurocratic individual who gets paid by local beurocracy to investigate local beurocrat agencies upon complaints from ordinary local beurocratically inclined citizens, quite often about local beurocracy employees, agencies or officials. ****PS!**** The Ombudsman would have become extinct if not for the Incredible Norwegian Invention: ***The paperclip!*** No joke! Take notes, students. 3) "mixed economy" = system allowing one to kill oneself very expensively with high-luxury taxed alcohol and tobacco, and then spend your last days dying in a hospital for free, surrounded by good looking nurses. >mails from someone/ some people who call himself/themself "vi som byggde >Sverige" [we who built Sweden] and said that they are responsible for the >attacks. >The same group placed bombs in one or two supermarkets in Gothenburg (second I heard about this. Weren't these people speculated to be a group of disgruntled retired folks?? >...and Christian (i.e "Norrbagge" med stort och grovt ordf?rr?d)... I'll >take care of you later... :-) Daniel: .....just.. don't mention.. ***THE WAR!*** :-) > mvh -Daniel Wikdahl > >ps Christian... har kommer n?gra till som jag gl?mde f?rrut, dom ?r >ganska grova men v?ldigt kul... >?derp?k och Sk?ggbiff... gissa vad som betyder vad :-) ds Joda, fikk den mailen. Skaggbiff er jo utrolig harry hva?? D?dsbra! Fitte s?klart! ?derp?k skal jeg skjekke.... Hadde flere ord men begynte ? g? lei all banninga... Agor umpis kall brey mof? Gaga ill ni! Ni! Ni! Niii! Elgen elgen, jor jem ba b?lla ostebonde vettu. ?kles it?r po ?il ig etc.! Christian From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Fri Aug 15 19:10:29 1997 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 19:10:29 -0400 Subject: BOC in Denmark Message-ID: >Looks like John's been on vacation... I have indeed -- I've been at home for the past 3 weeks playin' "Mr. Mom" as my wife went back to work after the birth of our second child. She starts daycare on Monday, at which point I'll be back and (hopefully) posting a bit more (although I've been awfully busy as of late). Would still like to get a FAQ update out early in the fall... John From lindfors at ALGONET.SE Fri Aug 15 22:22:27 1997 From: lindfors at ALGONET.SE (Dan Lindfors) Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 04:22:27 +0200 Subject: Jada-jada at twelve o'clock high? In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970815205708.006cc258@online.no> Message-ID: At 20:57 1997-08-15 +0000, you wrote: >Daniel skriver: > >>My God!!! Who was mixing up the countries in Scandinavia the last time?!?! >>Now it's theo... [I'm so tiiiiiired...] > >Hey - it WAS theo last time! He didn't pay attention in geography class, >- where are you theo?? Put your fingers on your desk while I take this >ruler here.... > >>Well, the bomb was placed in Stockholm (i.e the capital of Sweden -a little >>nation in the north of Europe -approx. 8,5 million citizens, the country that >>invented the smorgasbord, the ombudsman and the mixed economy ) > >Here's a bit of counter-propaganda, theo, pay atten-shun or your >fingernails get another stroke!!: > >1) "smorgasbord" = table with slices of bread with various condiments on > or placed next to them (sometimes in various states of biological decay). > > Eat sandwiches with knife and fork, and avoid the beer! > >2) "ombudsman" = beurocratic individual who gets paid by local beurocracy >to investigate local beurocrat agencies upon complaints from ordinary local >beurocratically inclined citizens, quite often about local beurocracy >employees, agencies or officials. > > >****PS!**** The Ombudsman would have become extinct if not for the >Incredible Norwegian Invention: ***The paperclip!*** No joke! Take notes, >students. > > >3) "mixed economy" = system allowing one to kill oneself very > expensively with high-luxury taxed alcohol and tobacco, and then > spend your last days dying in a hospital for free, surrounded by > good looking nurses. > > >>mails from someone/ some people who call himself/themself "vi som byggde >>Sverige" [we who built Sweden] and said that they are responsible for the >>attacks. >>The same group placed bombs in one or two supermarkets in Gothenburg (second > >I heard about this. Weren't these people speculated to be a group >of disgruntled retired folks?? > > >>...and Christian (i.e "Norrbagge" med stort och grovt ordf?rr?d)... I'll >>take care of you later... :-) > >Daniel: .....just.. don't mention.. ***THE WAR!*** :-) > > >> mvh -Daniel Wikdahl >> >>ps Christian... har kommer n?gra till som jag gl?mde f?rrut, dom ?r >>ganska grova men v?ldigt kul... >>?derp?k och Sk?ggbiff... gissa vad som betyder vad :-) ds > >Joda, fikk den mailen. Skaggbiff er jo utrolig harry hva?? D?dsbra! Fitte >s?klart! ?derp?k skal jeg skjekke.... Hadde flere ord men begynte ? g? lei >all banninga... Agor umpis kall brey mof? Gaga ill ni! Ni! Ni! Niii! Elgen >elgen, jor jem ba b?lla ostebonde vettu. ?kles it?r po ?il ig etc.! > >Christian > ?nnu ett brev producerat under rus, ?r jag r?dd!... Sk?ggbiff och ?derp?k!!! Herremin jesus.. uNDERBART! RPGOSAB! En ?vers?ttning kanske vore p? sin plats, eller, nja det vete tusan... How about a translation of these important swedish words? Hehe... Ocks? h?gst tacksam f?r Daniels intelligenta klarg?rande av v?r "terrorists" g?randen!!! (Fler utropstecken upptr?der n?r man druckit sin lagoma dos, och fortfarande hoppas p? att uppleva Buck Dharma i Stockholm 1998. A dreaM?) Entschuldigung! It was a very tiny bomb indeeed. And I love the Olympics. Stockholm 2004. I have an apartment in the center of this city! Dan (So what! M.D.) __ __ / `_' / ,,, |[====|||||||||||[::} Dan Lindfors, lindfors at algonet.se \__.-._\ ''' From johnv at NCWEB.COM Sun Aug 17 00:57:54 1997 From: johnv at NCWEB.COM (john villani) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 00:57:54 -0400 Subject: HW STRANGE DAZE Message-ID: just a few daze away! is anybody else planning on audio/video the fest other than me in case i run in to problems there was nothing stated in the rules or posted on being not allowed? From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Sun Aug 17 03:35:19 1997 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff and Pam Wheaton) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 01:35:19 -0600 Subject: HW STRANGE DAZE Message-ID: john villani wrote: > just a few daze away! is anybody else planning on audio/video the fest > other > than me in case i run in to problems there was nothing stated in the > rules > or posted on being not allowed? John-let me know if this works out for ya-I'd sure be intersted in audioand/or vid from this-I'm toooo far away & can't afford to take the daze off to see this!!Rock on:) Pam Ob-cd: Ozric:Strangitude ( I swear I'm gonna loop Live Throbbe onto a tape about 4times in a row-gods i love this tune) -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton ____/----^----\____ The greatest tool Christian writes: > >...and Christian (i.e "Norrbagge" med stort och grovt ordf?rr?d)... I'll > >take care of you later... :-) > > Daniel: .....just.. don't mention.. ***THE WAR!*** :-) I thought the one word you never, ever said to a Norwegian was "Denmark". At least that's what I was told! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Sun Aug 17 21:58:54 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 01:58:54 +0000 Subject: OFF: Re: Jada-jada at twelve o'clock high? In-Reply-To: <199708171931.UAA27377@holyrood.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: jill wrote: > >I thought the one word you never, ever said to a Norwegian was >"Denmark". > >At least that's what I was told! > Must have been a looooong time ago !! (sometime between 1356 and 1814???) Maybe mentioning A-HA to a Norwegian will get the same reaction as mentioning "potato" to an Irish? Daniel, would you care to offend any (heavywater drinkin' troll decapitatin' paperclip inventin' ski viking goatcheese-enhanced moosemurderin' whaleslaughterin' sealpoachin' rygsekk and knickerswearing mixed economy) Norwegians please? :) Christian From johnv at NCWEB.COM Sun Aug 17 20:31:18 1997 From: johnv at NCWEB.COM (john villani) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 20:31:18 -0400 Subject: HW TAPE SEARCH Message-ID: HEY GANG!im looking for a couple of hawkwind tapes to trade if anybody has them or can direct me to whom might there hawkwind frick festival 75 and california brainstorm 90. by the way was or is the "74" show ever released yet From torgo at NORWICH.NET Sun Aug 17 22:47:56 1997 From: torgo at NORWICH.NET (Torgo) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 22:47:56 -0400 Subject: BOC: Fireworks over Central NY Message-ID: Hey Gang: Caught BOC today at the Fireworks over Central New York festival. It felt good to finally catch the recent incarnation of the band live, as the last time I saw them was right after Club Ninja came out. The band played 6th out of 8 bands, right in between Government Mule and Matchbox 20, before a hammered crowd of local ninnies soaking up the sunshine on this Sunday afternoon. The setlist was: Stairway to the stars ETI Buck's Boogie Dominance and Submission Cities on Flame Last days of May Burnin' for You Godzilla Don't fear the Reaper The band opened up with STAIRWAY TO THE STARS, and the first thing I noticed was how Eric Bloom's voice really didn't have much spunk. His voice seemed very high and strained, and not the deep, menacing growl I remember from live BOC albums and the last time I saw them live 10 years ago. Overall band sound was good, although they were not nearly as ear splitting as Government Mule before them. By the time the band got around to Dominance and Submission, Eric's voice seemed to have improved, and he summoned up some of that power and passion in his voice that I always remembered. It seemed as if he saved himself up on Stairway and ETI, took a break on Buck's Boogie, and then let loose what he had left on the two "Albert songs" that were paired with each other, knowing that Buck would be taking over Vocals for the bulk of what remained ahead. Although many debates remain unsettled over whether Bloom can pull of the Albert songs of not, the band ripped the heaviest through these 2 songs, and for me it was the highlight of the show. Lets just say D&S and Cities are good enough tunes that they smoke no matter who plays them. I was clever enough to be on the Allen side of the stage, my fave place to be. Allen for me has always been the unsung hero of the band, as I can't imagine BOC ever nailing down that overall eerieness they have in their sound without the man. He smoked, he jammed, he pounded keys, and all in all just did the Allen thing that he does so well. Never says a word, but for me the man is the biggest presence on a BOC stage. Buck is Buck and he threw out some amazing leads, but gimme Allen anyday. Then came "the big three" and the crowd started picking up on who the band was. It was funny during Burnin' to see throngs of 13 year olds with everything from their eyelids to the colons pierced, turn to each other and say "Oh, like wow, I know this song". Which brings us back to the debate on whether the big 3 are as BIG as they are, or a low point in the show for those of us who have heard them 1,000 times. The crowd didn't really respond until the big 3, and they seemed to sort of expect them. Godzilla IMHO is still great on stage, it thunders, it booms, and its a perfect place for Bass and Drum solos. Danny had a bass solo which rumbled in your belly a bit, which led into Bobby's drum solo. I remember Bobby from his Rainbow days, and he still has all the panache on the drums he always did. Bobby also looked like time and twinkies have been good to him. He's a hulking menace of hair and belly behind the skins, and of course I mean that in a good way. I like the way he looks back there. :^) So all in all it was a good set. I didn't get to hear really anything different from the last set I saw them do 10 years ago, but anytime I get to see BOC live I will take it, if you know what I mean. Would have liked to hear one of the newer tunes people on the list have talked about, but alas, it wasn't to be today. Eric never said a word about an upcoming album, and I certainly didn't ask. And there you have it. Torgo has left the building...... torgo at norwich.net ************************************************************* "All the same we take our chances, laughed at by time, tricked by circumstances. Plus ?a change, plus c'est la m?me chose, The more that things change, the more they stay the same..." ************************************************************* From stayer at PI.NET Sun Aug 17 13:08:15 1997 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 10:08:15 -0700 Subject: BD solo Message-ID: Ted Jackson jr. 6L6 wrote: > Think of it: EB's a virtual non-entity > now, so it leaves just AL and BD from the original band on tour right > now. And if he did a solo gig playing BOC songs? Agree. If BD would found a new band and play old BOC tunes, it is nostalgia when they do so. There is no valid reason for a band called BOC playing those old songs over and over again. > Plus, if BD did a solo show, you > can bet he'd add stuff from Flat Out, and maybe new stuff, like > Gamera. Now that would be interesting! Jerry From stayer at PI.NET Sun Aug 17 13:14:49 1997 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 10:14:49 -0700 Subject: Bombers at twelve o'clock high?/Oslo Panthhas?? Message-ID: Daniel Wikdahl wrote: > > The same group placed bombs in one or two supermarkets in Gothenburg (second > > largest city in Sweden, 500 000 citizens, a big harbour and the lowest > > CD-prices in Sweden) around Christmas as protest against the politics in Sweden. > > Do you get it?!? Ted Jackson jr. 6L6 wrote: > What's to protest about the government n Sweden? You guys should > live here! You'd have to nuke the whole country to protest the > government here... And in Holland people go marching through The Hague or sit on the railway track... :-) As far as I can remember, the bombs placed in public areas were all because of international issues; like some guys from Iran wanted the Dutch government to release some Iranian prisoners and placed bombs and protested at the ambassy; like the US president paying a visit :-). Haha, I saw some pictures when Clinton visited The Hague - there were more security agents that people watching! Jerry From stayer at PI.NET Sun Aug 17 14:06:54 1997 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 11:06:54 -0700 Subject: back to school Message-ID: Christian wrote: > 3) "mixed economy" = system allowing one to kill oneself very > expensively with high-luxury taxed alcohol and tobacco, and then > spend your last days dying in a hospital for free, surrounded by > good looking nurses. Same as in Holland, only the alcohol and marihuana is a lot cheaper! (Don't know about tobacco, but it'll probably be a lot cheaper here as well...) And the hospital is not free, but payed for by the insurance. And here, (almost) everyone has got one! :-) Jerry From ola.nyberg at SYSTEM3R.SE Mon Aug 18 04:48:01 1997 From: ola.nyberg at SYSTEM3R.SE (Ola Nyberg) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 09:48:01 +0100 Subject: HW: Strange Daze w/ Lemmy Message-ID: LO everybody, Just forwarding some news from the Motorhead E-mail newsletter Overnight Sensation (issue #7): ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- OK... the first bit of big news... I finally have confirmation of the Lemmy/Hawkwind reunion. It is going to be for ONE SHOW ONLY!! It will take place on Sunday, August 31 at the Brushwood Campgrounds in Sherman, NY as part of the Strange Daze '97 Festival. Tickets cost $35 in advance and $40 at the gate. This facility only seats 2000! This is sure to be a once in a lifetime event, so if you have the means, I suggest strongly that you catch it! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------- Consider yourselves lucky over there! Ola Nyberg Stockholm Sweden From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Aug 15 13:23:07 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 18:23:07 +0100 Subject: OFF: Mournblade In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19970815110712.0091b5ac@mailbox.mc.hik.se> Message-ID: In article <1.5.4.32.19970815110712.0091b5ac at mailbox.mc.hik.se>, Daniel Wikdahl writes >IMHO NWOBHM sucks. > > (such a funny little message -right?!?) Excellent post, except "sucks" should be spelt "sux", no? -- Jon B (don't call me "Sloop") ObCd - Piper by Floyd 30th anniversary Mono edition. Am I sad or what? Still, it charted at around #33 so there's a lot of us about. Still think Obscured is their best... From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Mon Aug 18 07:40:15 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 11:40:15 +0000 Subject: OFF: Interstellar Monodrive (Re: OFF: Mournblade) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jon (Sloop) writes: >ObCd - Piper by Floyd 30th anniversary Mono edition. Am I sad or what? > Still, it charted at around #33 so there's a lot of us about. > Still think Obscured is their best... Hey, what's the difference here (apart from setting "mono" on my stereo..)? I know there's some box involved and an early singles CD (with the stuff not on Relics like in the box thingy some years ago?). I understand some of this stuff is availible separately if I have the remaster of Piper already???? BTW, I just remembered I was gonna send you a tape months ago for Scream Thy Last Scream/Psychedelic Dungeon??? Christian obFriendWhoEatsSugarlumps: Jack From sprawl at STARLINX.COM Mon Aug 18 07:02:09 1997 From: sprawl at STARLINX.COM (Ron Jennings) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 07:02:09 -0400 Subject: OFF: Test- Apologies. Ignore Message-ID: sorry if anyone gets this. but after 3 days without a single mssg. i had to find out if things were still working. rj From tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU Mon Aug 18 07:57:04 1997 From: tojackso at LIBRARY.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. 6L6) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 07:57:04 EDT Subject: BOC: Fireworks over Central NY Message-ID: > From: Torgo > Hey Gang: > > Caught BOC today at the Fireworks over Central New York festival. It felt > good to finally catch the recent incarnation of the band live, as the last > time I saw them was right after Club Ninja came out. The band played 6th > out of 8 bands, right in between Government Mule and Matchbox 20, before a > hammered crowd of local ninnies soaking up the sunshine on this Sunday > afternoon. > > The setlist was: > > Stairway to the stars > ETI > Buck's Boogie > Dominance and Submission > Cities on Flame > Last days of May > Burnin' for You > Godzilla > Don't fear the Reaper > > The band opened up with STAIRWAY TO THE STARS, and the first thing I > noticed was how Eric Bloom's voice really didn't have much spunk. His voice > seemed very high and strained, and not the deep, menacing growl I remember > from live BOC albums and the last time I saw them live 10 years ago. Yet this was far and away the best he's sounded overall in the last 4 BOC gigs I've seen since December! > Overall band sound was good, although they were not nearly as ear splitting > as Government Mule before them. > Oh man, but GM rocked out, didn't they? Way loud, and sometimes rambling, but those 3 dudes can rule the stage. Warren's way too good a singer to be relegated to 2-3 songs during an Allmans show. And given the depth of his songwriting ability, it only makes sense that he'd want his own gig... > By the time the band got around to Dominance and Submission, Eric's voice Hey, it was great to see even this one variation from the stock setlist. I might be imagining this, but I was directly in front of BD in the first row, and I swear he winked at me when he saw my reaction to DaS... > seemed to have improved, and he summoned up some of that power and passion > in his voice that I always remembered. It seemed as if he saved himself up > on Stairway and ETI, took a break on Buck's Boogie, and then let loose what > he had left on the two "Albert songs" that were paired with each other, > knowing that Buck would be taking over Vocals for the bulk of what remained Yeah, I was almost encouraged. And he showed a lot more animation than I've seen in other shows. He really warmed up to DaS. I've got many pictures of the performance. Hope some of them come out okay...Also some good shots of GM. Warren used a Firebird for the first couple songs. Looked and sounded cool... > ahead. Although many debates remain unsettled over whether Bloom can pull > of the Albert songs of not, the band ripped the heaviest through these 2 > songs, and for me it was the highlight of the show. Lets just say D&S and They were great, but I think TCtLDoM was the best thing they did, maybe tied with Buck's Boogie, and I can't leave out DaS, as I desperately want them to open up the setlist a little... The EB vs, Al debate? Well, I have my reasons for actually preferring EB on DaS [at least in his prime] but, they need to be private. CoF? A sacrilege that anyone other than Al should attempt this song... > Cities are good enough tunes that they smoke no matter who plays them. > > I was clever enough to be on the Allen side of the stage, my fave place to > be. Allen for me has always been the unsung hero of the band, as I can't > imagine BOC ever nailing down that overall eerieness they have in their > sound without the man. He smoked, he jammed, he pounded keys, and all in > all just did the Allen thing that he does so well. Never says a word, but > for me the man is the biggest presence on a BOC stage. Buck is Buck and he > threw out some amazing leads, but gimme Allen anyday. > I agree that Allen is underappreciated, but I think you go too far in the other direction. BD IS the band, pointe finale, c'est tout... > Then came "the big three" and the crowd started picking up on who the band > was. It was funny during Burnin' to see throngs of 13 year olds with > everything from their eyelids to the colons pierced, turn to each other and > say "Oh, like wow, I know this song". Which brings us back to the debate on > whether the big 3 are as BIG as they are, or a low point in the show for Oh, they're big all right. The only one I really don't like is Burnin.' I though Reaper was amazing last night. Although I am sick to death of the song, BD still smokes the hell out of it every time. And who am I to begrudge my favorite band for having an actual monster hit song [other than Godzilla]? And speaking of big songs, did you see how the crowd poured out in droves during Matchbox 20's [a most pleasant surprise, BTW] set after they played their big hit? > those of us who have heard them 1,000 times. The crowd didn't really > respond until the big 3, and they seemed to sort of expect them. Godzilla > IMHO is still great on stage, it thunders, it booms, and its a perfect > place for Bass and Drum solos. > > Danny had a bass solo which rumbled in your belly a bit, which led into > Bobby's drum solo. I remember Bobby from his Rainbow days, and he still has > all the panache on the drums he always did. Bobby also looked like time and > twinkies have been good to him. He's a hulking menace of hair and belly > behind the skins, and of course I mean that in a good way. I like the way > he looks back there. :^) > > So all in all it was a good set. I didn't get to hear really anything > different from the last set I saw them do 10 years ago, but anytime I get > to see BOC live I will take it, if you know what I mean. Would have liked > to hear one of the newer tunes people on the list have talked about, but > alas, it wasn't to be today. Eric never said a word about an upcoming > album, and I certainly didn't ask. > > And there you have it. > > > Torgo has left the building...... > torgo at norwich.net Torgo, Sorry I couldn't meet you. I figured you'd be on the BD side of the stage, so I didn't even look over toward Allen's side for ya. You couldn't have missed me, as I was right in front of BD, taking pictures... theo From abrevard at SHL.COM Mon Aug 18 10:44:34 1997 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 09:44:34 -0500 Subject: tbS a Challenge Message-ID: >I'm all for a full-length treatment of the Imaginos saga, but I'm leery of bringing in another band to do it. I'd rather see it done like the existing Imaginos record, except with Al and tBS being a core group for the project, and then bringing in guests to appear on certain songs where needed. I think it would be too big a project for another band to guest on, and that such an undertaking would take a really long time, and that no band would want to give up their current projects to be a part of it. If Al used guests, then he could record things piecemeal, and each guest wouldn't need to learn that much material... theo There I go again not fully explaining myself. Would not be all of Savatage just a select few members that would supplement the current tBS lineup. Specifically I'm thinking Oliva, who plays Keys, gtr. and does a reasonable Lemmy impression on vox, Zak for additional vox and maybe Pittreli on guitar (if he is still with Sav). Oliva is responsible for those wonderful arrangements that make Savatage sound like a huge band when they are not. He would assist Al with the arrangements, play keys, whatever. Zak vox would be perfect for some of the existing Imaginos songs, as would Deb. Yeah they could just have members of Sav phone in their parts but it would be better if they all sat down and did it. L8er lil' ab "The true mad scientist does not make public appearances. He does not wear the "hello my name is" badge. He strikes from below like a viper. Or from up high like a penny being dropped from the tallest building around. He has but one purpose, to do bad things to good people with science!" - Chromedome Stioll riding my Horse, The Horse That Bud Bought - Galactic Cowboys From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Aug 18 10:27:29 1997 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:27:29 +0100 Subject: BOC: Blue Pearl 12 Message-ID: Just got this latest issue of the French BOC fanzine - excellent stuff! Highlights for me: a stunning cover; a real find in the shape of an illustrated version of "Me-262" from a 70's issue of _Metal Hurlant_ (the French equivalent to _Heavy Metal_ magazine); exhaustive list of cover versions played by BOC; an honest review of a recent live tape. Hats off to Luke for dedication above and beyond the call! - Andy ObCD: The New Christs - _Woe Betide_ -- mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From name_removed at invalid Mon Aug 18 11:36:21 1997 From: name_removed at invalid (Name Removed) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 09:36:21 -0600 Subject: tbS a Challenge Message-ID: Specifically I'm thinking Oliva, who plays Keys, gtr. and does >a reasonable Lemmy impression on vox, Zak for additional vox and maybe >Pittreli on guitar (if he is still with Sav). Oliva is responsible for >those wonderful arrangements that make Savatage sound like a huge band >when they are not. Hmmm.... If you're talking about Chris Oliva -- he died a few years ago in a car accident.... Or is there another Oliva in the band? Name Removed by request From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Mon Aug 18 13:15:20 1997 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (M R Godwin) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 18:15:20 +0100 Subject: BOC: Blue Pearl 12 In-Reply-To: <01BCABF0.7021DF20@host5-99-47-71.btinternet.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 18 Aug 1997, Andrew Gilham wrote: > Just got this latest issue of the French BOC fanzine - excellent stuff! Avez-vous l'adresse du journal, s'il vou plait? - Mike Godwin From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Mon Aug 18 14:18:01 1997 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 04:18:01 +1000 Subject: Strange Daze w/ Lemmy Message-ID: Well, I hope somebody tapes it. Let me put it this way - somebody had *BETTER* tape it... Grumble grumble moan moan... Max Wilcox http://student.uq.edu.au/~s333271/index.html > OK... the first bit of big news... I finally have confirmation of the > Lemmy/Hawkwind reunion. It is going to be for ONE SHOW ONLY!! It will > take place on Sunday, August 31 at the Brushwood Campgrounds in Sherman, NY > as part of the Strange Daze '97 Festival. Tickets cost $35 in advance and > $40 at the gate. This facility only seats 2000! This is sure to be a once > in a lifetime event, so if you have the means, I suggest strongly that you > catch it! From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Mon Aug 18 14:17:50 1997 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 19:17:50 +0100 Subject: BOC: Blue Pearl 12 Message-ID: >Avez-vous l'adresse du journal, s'il vou plait? 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Message-ID: im sorry, but if anyone gets this, could u e-mail me privately? it appears i am not getting mail from the list. i sent in a test, it appears in the archives, but i havent seen it. thanks, rj From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Mon Aug 18 15:12:41 1997 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff and Pam Wheaton) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 13:12:41 -0600 Subject: Strange Daze w/ Lemmy Message-ID: Max Wilcox wrote: > Well, I hope somebody tapes it. Let me put it this way - > somebody had > *BETTER* tape it... > Grumble grumble moan moan. I agree!! I hope SOMEONE tapes this-I can't go-but would REALLY like to hear/see some of this:)Pam -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton ____/----^----\____ The greatest tool Message-ID: Man over board! I replied to your SOS but it bounced off your address (below) Hope you see this flare :) Christian --------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:07:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: Subject: Returned mail: User unknown Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) The original message was received at Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:07:19 -0400 (EDT) from ti34a01-0030.dialup.online.no [130.67.64.94] ** This is an automatic message to inform you that your email was not forwarded through iName's server. The iName email address that you tried to send mail to may not be active. Reasons for the failed delivery attempt could include: 1. The iName customer has selected a new personalized iName email address rendering their old iName email address inactive. 2. The iName customer may have signed up for one of iName's free offers and then not validated their forwarding address. 3 The address may simply be typed incorrectly. 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User unknown Reporting-MTA: dns; ren.globecomm.net Received-From-MTA: DNS; ti34a01-0030.dialup.online.no Arrival-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:07:19 -0400 (EDT) Final-Recipient: RFC822; sprawl at STARLINX.COM Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; starlinx.com Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 relaying mail to STARLINX.COM is not allowed Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:07:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from netsurfer.online.no (ti34a01-0030.dialup.online.no [130.67.64.94]) by ren.globecomm.net (8.8.7/8.8.0) with SMTP id PAA00676 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:07:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970818210050.006ca18c at online.no> X-Sender: bjaanaes at online.no X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.2 (32) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 21:00:50 +0000 To: sprawl at STARLINX.COM From: Christian Subject: Re: Help! In-Reply-To: <33F89751.5DAEB882 at starlinx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 14:41 18.08.97 -0400, you wrote: >im sorry, but if anyone gets this, could u e-mail me privately? >it appears i am not getting mail from the list. i sent in a test, it >appears in the archives, but i havent seen it. >thanks, rj ... --- ... --- ... --- ... --- ??? (well, I think that means SOS?) ... are you receiving this?? It made it all the way to Norway... Christian From david at MASTMOOR.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Aug 18 15:47:42 1997 From: david at MASTMOOR.DEMON.CO.UK (David Jones) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:47:42 +0100 Subject: HW: Love in Space Message-ID: I phoned CDS on Friday to enquire about release of Love in Space EP and according to them it's now back to sometime in September. From hawkus at HOTMAIL.COM Mon Aug 18 18:04:49 1997 From: hawkus at HOTMAIL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:04:49 PDT Subject: HW the great vinyl hunt continues... Message-ID: >I am re-posting this message with more detail/clarification. >anyone caring >to respond, make smartass replies, be helpful, or to remind me >of the >obvious (that these items are rare-please see subject!) please e-mail >me >directly at: >Hawkwindus at aol.com or Hawkus at hotmail.com > >I have a friend >(Mike Coleman) who is searching for mint/mint+ condition >copies of the >following >he is mainly interested in obtaining mint covers as he has these >records >already >with the vinyl in mint condition. > >He will pay generously >for these items as he is a rabbid collector: >1) Hassan I Sahba/Damnation >Alley Pt.2 7" >mike will swap covers plus give $100 worth of merchandise for >mint/mint+ >cover > >2) Church of Hawkwind 12" >ok not a super tough >one...but he's looking for a mint/mint+ cover > >> 3) Dave Brock Agents of >Chaos (lighter printed version) 12" >the lighter printed version has a dull >or matte finish cover >the "darker" version is on more of a gloss/coated >stock > > >also there is an offer for anyone not wanting to lose their only >copy >of one of the above items: my friend will send a VG+/excellent copy of >any >of >the above plus trade other rare items for the mint version of >it. >any takers e-mail me and i'll forward it > >most recomended cd: Van der Graaf Generator "Aerosol Grey Machine" > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From ben at ST-CANARD.SPC.EDU Mon Aug 18 21:01:18 1997 From: ben at ST-CANARD.SPC.EDU (Ben Cohen) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 21:01:18 -0400 Subject: ADMIN: Error mail to Ron Jennings Message-ID: First off, my apologies to everyone besides Ron, but mail to him is bouncing and this is the only way I'm aware of to get anything to him. Ron: I hope you see this appear in the archives and can get someone else to handle it. All list mail from BOC-L has been bouncing from your service provider with the following errors. Please attempt to get in touch with someone from your service provider to see if they can resolve this. Ben Cohen >------------------------ Message in error (145 lines) ------------------------- >Received: from listserv.spc.edu (listserv at listserv.spc.edu [192.107.46.113]) > by listserv.spc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/NYNET-2.2) with ESMTP id UAA18209 > for ; Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:50:28 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from localhost (localhost) > by listserv.spc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/NYNET-2.2) with internal id UAA18201; > Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:50:27 -0400 (EDT) >Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:50:27 -0400 (EDT) >From: Mail Delivery Subsystem >Message-Id: <199708190050.UAA18201 at listserv.spc.edu> >To: >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; > boundary="UAA18201.871951827/listserv.spc.edu" >Subject: Returned mail: User unknown >Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure) >X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:" > > >An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of >the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that >allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect >addresses. > >--> Error description: >Error-For: relaying mail to STARLINX.COM is not allowed >Error-Code: 3 >Error-Text: User unknown > >Error-End: One error reported. > > >This is a MIME-encapsulated message > >--UAA18201.871951827/listserv.spc.edu > >The original message was received at Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:50:26 -0400 (EDT) >from listserv at listserv.spc.edu [192.107.46.113] > > ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >... while talking to starlinx.com.: >>>> RCPT To: ><<< 550 relaying mail to STARLINX.COM is not allowed >550 ... User unknown From sprawl at STARLINX.COM Mon Aug 18 22:56:26 1997 From: sprawl at STARLINX.COM (Ron Jennings) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 22:56:26 -0400 Subject: OFF: testing again...sorry... Message-ID: dfdfsdfgsd From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Aug 18 13:08:26 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 18:08:26 +0100 Subject: OFF: Interstellar Monodrive (Re: OFF: Mournblade) In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970818114015.006c5890@online.no> Message-ID: In article <3.0.2.32.19970818114015.006c5890 at online.no>, Christian writes >Hey, what's the difference here (apart from setting "mono" on my stereo..)? >I know there's some box involved and an early singles CD (with the stuff >not on Relics like in the box thingy some years ago?). I understand some of >this stuff is availible separately if I have the remaster of Piper already???? The difference is, the original vinyl release was mono. Everything subsequent was stereo, therefore if you wanted to hear the original relaese you were gonna have to stump up UKP100+ The climax of Intersteller overdrive for instance *doesn't* fly incredibly from speaker to speaker. Wow. It *is* a nice package, though. And it's only a tenner, and yes if you buy another old Floyd album at the same time you get a free six track EP of the first three singles and B-sides. (Which'll be "Candy" and "Apples and Oranges" if you already have relics and Piper) But if you're a regular at any particular record shop, they'll just give you the EP anyway, I'm sure .....Ahem! > >BTW, I just remembered I was gonna send you a tape months ago for Scream >Thy Last Scream/Psychedelic Dungeon??? Oh yes. Well anytime, eh? :) -- Jon Browne From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 19 06:31:54 1997 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 11:31:54 +0100 Subject: OFF: testing again...sorry... In-Reply-To: Ron Jennings's message of Mon, 18 Aug 1997 22:56:26 -0400 Message-ID: Ron Jennings writes: > dfdfsdfgsd > hmmm - obviously the Left Hand of Darkness...... 8-) jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From sprawl at STARLINX.COM Tue Aug 19 08:14:59 1997 From: sprawl at STARLINX.COM (Ron Jennings) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 08:14:59 -0400 Subject: OFF: testing again...sorry... Message-ID: Hehehehe....took me a second... my provider was blocking the list form our server, but the mighty BEN (quinn's more aggressive cousin) straightened it out. =) rj J Strobridge wrote: > > Ron Jennings writes: > > > dfdfsdfgsd > > > > hmmm - obviously the Left Hand of Darkness...... > > 8-) > > jill > From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Tue Aug 19 08:32:00 1997 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 13:32:00 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind -Scotland 97 In-Reply-To: J Strobridge's mail of Fri, 15 Aug 97 13:28 +0100 Message-ID: Andy C writes: > Fat Sams in Dundee. They where quite sure the gig on the 18th October > will now not happen. Seems the promoter thought they would not > fill the place. How big is Fat Sams? Dundee is 200,000 people; I'd have thought that this would include a couple of hundred people who would go and see Hawkwind. Especially if a few people came across from St. Andrews. On 15 Aug 13:28, J Strobridge wrote: > Dunno about the Garage but if you need tix for the Liquid Rooms phone > either Ripping Records: 0131 226 7010 or Inside Tickets 0131 477 > 8222. Yep, I got mine. 7 weeks to go... Even this is a fairly small venue. In the 80's they filled the Playhouse and the Usher Hall. I know that times have changed, but even so... Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Mayfield Road, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. Tel: +44 131 472 4782 From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Tue Aug 19 08:43:55 1997 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 13:43:55 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind -Scotland 97 In-Reply-To: Dave Berry's message of Tue, 19 Aug 1997 13:32:00 +0100 Message-ID: Dave Berry writes: > Yep, I got mine. 7 weeks to go... > > Even this is a fairly small venue. In the 80's they filled the Playhouse > and the Usher Hall. I know that times have changed, but even so... apparently the Liquid Rooms venue has been complete renovated and enlarged and will now take 500 or 600 people - so I've been told! For those who know it - the bar area has been moved upstairs to the veranda area and a wall has been knocked down to enlarge this bit. The stage has been moved to the end that the bar used to be with the extra space created here which has opened up a large floor area to take loads extra folk. Not that I've seen it yet - the description is a verbal one only but it sounds like a decent sized place now! jill obcomplaint> still waiting.... ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From acobley at COMPUTING.DUNDEE.AC.UK Tue Aug 19 09:00:06 1997 From: acobley at COMPUTING.DUNDEE.AC.UK (Andy C) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 14:00:06 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind -Scotland 97 Message-ID: ---------- From: Dave Berry Sent: 19 August 1997 13:32 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: Hawkwind -Scotland 97 Andy C writes: > Fat Sams in Dundee. They where quite sure the gig on the 18th October > will now not happen. Seems the promoter thought they would not > fill the place. How big is Fat Sams? Dundee is 200,000 people; I'd have thought that this would include a couple of hundred people who would go and see Hawkwind. Especially if a few people came across from St. Andrews. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fat sams holds 200-300 people, I know of a fair number round here who where planning to go, I 'm really relaly peeved about this ! Andy C -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1737 bytes Desc: not available URL: From abrevard at SHL.COM Tue Aug 19 09:16:55 1997 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 08:16:55 -0500 Subject: BOC Fireworks/Savatage Message-ID: >Hmmm.... If you're talking about Chris Oliva -- he died a few years ago in >a car accident.... Or is there another Oliva in the band? >Tom That would be Jon Oliva, Chris' brother. You won't see Jon listed as a member of the band on most of the recent stuff, Edge of Thorns, Handful of Rain or Dead Winter Dead, but Jon does play with the band, writes most if not all the material and produces. He's sort of the secret weapon / guiding force behind Savatage. >The EB vs, Al debate? Well, I have my reasons for actually >preferring EB on DaS [at least in his prime] but, they need to be >private. CoF? A sacrilege that anyone other than Al should attempt >this song.. Clearly yanking Theo's chain, lil ab says, better keep it private bud 'cause only Al can do justice to an Al song, there is nothing to debate. L8er lil ab ************************************************************************ ***************** > Things to ponder > > Why do they sterilize the needles for lethal injections? ************************************************************************ ***************** > From tom at ABACUS-DIRECT.COM Tue Aug 19 11:22:58 1997 From: tom at ABACUS-DIRECT.COM (Tom Minsel) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 09:22:58 -0600 Subject: BOC Fireworks/Savatage Message-ID: >>Hmmm.... If you're talking about Chris Oliva -- he died a few years ago in >>a car accident.... Or is there another Oliva in the band? > >>Tom > >That would be Jon Oliva, Chris' brother. You won't see Jon listed as a >member of the band on most of the recent stuff, Edge of Thorns, Handful >of Rain or Dead Winter Dead, but Jon does play with the band, writes >most if not all the material and produces. He's sort of the secret >weapon / guiding force behind Savatage. Thanks - I remember Jon now that you mention it. Tom Tom Minsel, Ph.D. Statistical Services Abacus-Direct Corp. 8774 Yates Dr. Westminster, CO. 80030 (303) 657-5274 From cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Tue Aug 19 20:27:32 1997 From: cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 19:27:32 EST Subject: HW/OFF: new Delerium items Message-ID: Just got in my new Delerium update catalog (check the web site for a downloadable copy) and see some tasty morsels: - New book called "Adrift in the Ether" is supposed to be a "Complete Guide to British Psychedelic Music in the 1990's". Sure sounds great to me! Advertised as containing complete biographies and discographies for over 200 bands. Price is listed at L19.50 plus postage. The bands covered here include: HAWKWIND, Spiral Realms, Magic Muscle, Astralasia, Porcupine Tree, Sundial, Eat Static, Gong, Ozrics, Bevis, Dead Flowers, etc.etc.etc.etc.etc. Has anybody seen this critter? I want one! (if it is worthwhile) - Crohinga Well #13 is out, with yet more HAWKWIND! I'd a thought they'd run out of things to say after the last 12 issues... - Also advertised is a Texas comp called "Acid Ranch 2000" that contains a song called "Sonic Attack" by 1001 Theramins. Maybe this belongs on the next HW Cover Tapes project? :-) - They list Harvey's "Red Shift" as available on their web site. - Omnia Opera "Red Shift" is finally out. - They also list a Fu Manchu 10" 4-track on green vinyl that I haven't seen before. Anybody know if this incarnation includes the former Kyuss guys that I heard rumoured were now in Fu Manchu? Captain Cloud cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com From cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Tue Aug 19 20:27:41 1997 From: cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 19:27:41 EST Subject: HW: are these rare, or just uncommon Message-ID: Caught a (infrequent) local record show this Florida weekend and scored 3 not-so-common items: - ICU "Presidents Tapes" on M- vinyl. - Underground Zero vinyl, contains a cover of "Robot" - "Palace Springs" CD (USA, not the picdisk) I thought that ICU-P.T. was one of the rarer ICU albums. True? Also, the guy seemed to think that Bridget Wishart was in/had been in UZ0, and even had the price tag marked "contains former HW member". This is news to me, but I bought it for the cover song. All items were at great prices, and turns out I'd even met the salesman at the Atlanta HW show in 1995! We'd shared a, um, whatever, but this time I didn't recognize him. Guess I wasn't in the same state as our first meeting... ;-) Another vendor also had a copy of Hawklords 12" "Who's Gonna Win the War" on silver/grey vinyl. The LP was in good shape, the cover probably a NM/VG, but he wanted $25. Too steep for me on this one. I still have a contact addy if any other takers want to jump on it. Captain Cloud cjohnson at Hpsc.hisd.harris.com From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Tue Aug 19 20:14:18 1997 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 02:14:18 +0200 Subject: HW/OFF: new Delerium items Message-ID: > - They also list a Fu Manchu 10" 4-track on green vinyl that I > haven't seen before. Anybody know if this incarnation includes the > former Kyuss guys that I heard rumoured were now in Fu Manchu? > > > Captain Cloud > cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com > > Only the drummer is an ex-Kyuss member and I think (and hope) he's still in the band. Josh Homme (Kyuss axeman) produced the 3-track "Godzilla" EP. What is this new one called? I didn't now it existed... -Daniel "Vad? jultraditioner? Hos oss har vi nya traditioner varje ?r" (CG) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN +46 480 245 11 From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Tue Aug 19 20:20:19 1997 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 02:20:19 +0200 Subject: OFF: answers Message-ID: I have had some problems with my account lately so I haven't been able to answer any mails at all. But I have read all of them and I have had a good laughter. I'll try to answer all private messages later this week. -Daniel ObAttG?raMittINatten: Kopiera B?cker Gratis P? H?gskolans Kopiator Och Samtidigt Bryta Mot Upphovsr?ttslagen S? Mycket Som M?jligt Under Tiden. "Vad? jultraditioner? Hos oss har vi nya traditioner varje ?r" (CG) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN +46 480 245 11 From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Tue Aug 19 21:42:25 1997 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 03:42:25 +0200 Subject: OFF: Mournblade Message-ID: At 06:23 PM 8/15/97 +0100, you wrote: >In article <1.5.4.32.19970815110712.0091b5ac at mailbox.mc.hik.se>, Daniel >Wikdahl writes >>IMHO NWOBHM sucks. >> >> (such a funny little message -right?!?) > >Excellent post, except "sucks" should be spelt "sux", no? >-- > Jon B (don't call me "Sloop") > Yep. (shorter and shorter) -Dnl "Vad? jultraditioner? Hos oss har vi nya traditioner varje ?r" (CG) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN +46 480 245 11 From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Tue Aug 19 21:59:19 1997 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 03:59:19 +0200 Subject: OFF: Re: Jada-jada at twelve o'clock high? Message-ID: At 01:58 AM 8/18/97 +0000, you wrote: >jill wrote: >> >>I thought the one word you never, ever said to a Norwegian was >>"Denmark". >> >>At least that's what I was told! >> > >Must have been a looooong time ago !! (sometime between 1356 and 1814???) >Maybe mentioning A-HA to a Norwegian will get the same reaction as >mentioning "potato" to an Irish? > >Daniel, would you care to offend any (heavywater drinkin' troll >decapitatin' paperclip inventin' ski viking goatcheese-enhanced >moosemurderin' whaleslaughterin' sealpoachin' rygsekk and knickerswearing >mixed economy) Norwegians please? :) Hmmm, I've always wondered what happened to Norway after 1814? Could you tell me that Christian. :-) -Daniel "Vad? jultraditioner? Hos oss har vi nya traditioner varje ?r" (CG) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN +46 480 245 11 From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Tue Aug 19 22:13:51 1997 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 04:13:51 +0200 Subject: Bombers at twelve o'clock high?/Oslo Panthhas?? Message-ID: >What's to protest about the government n Sweden? You guys should >live here! You'd have to nuke the whole country to protest the >government here... > >theo > > As a start: a package of 20 cigarettes cost 6$!!! (But you shouldn't ask me 'cos I didn't place the bomb... ;-) -Daniel "Vad? jultraditioner? Hos oss har vi nya traditioner varje ?r" (CG) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN +46 480 245 11 From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Wed Aug 20 02:43:05 1997 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 16:43:05 +1000 Subject: are these rare, or just uncommon Message-ID: > From: cjohnson > Caught a (infrequent) local record show this Florida weekend and > scored 3 not-so-common items: > > - ICU "Presidents Tapes" on M- vinyl. > - Underground Zero vinyl, contains a cover of "Robot" > - "Palace Springs" CD (USA, not the picdisk) > > I thought that ICU-P.T. was one of the rarer ICU albums. True? Any of their albums are one of the rarer ones, as far as I'm concerned. > Also, the guy seemed to think that Bridget Wishart was in/had been > in UZ0, and even had the price tag marked "contains former HW > member". This is news to me, but I bought it for the cover song. No Bridget wasn't in UZ0, though she does sound a little like Judi Rix, though... > All items were at great prices, and turns out I'd even met the > salesman at the Atlanta HW show in 1995! We'd shared a, um, > whatever, but this time I didn't recognize him. Guess I wasn't in > the same state as our first meeting... ;-) I know the feeling - people say hello to me all the time - and I don't have the foggiest idea as to who they are. I just say hello and go on my merry way. Ho hum. Max Wilcox http://student.uq.edu.au/~s333271/index.html Brisbane OzHawks http://student.uq.edu.au/~s333271/HawkBris/indexO.html From a.hughes at NEWI.AC.UK Wed Aug 20 04:40:37 1997 From: a.hughes at NEWI.AC.UK (Alun Hughes) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 04:40:37 -0400 Subject: HW: are these rare, or just uncommon In-Reply-To: <9707198720.AA872044061@hpsc.hisd.harris.com> Message-ID: > - ICU "Presidents Tapes" on M- vinyl. > - Underground Zero vinyl, contains a cover of "Robot" It's not a cover, but an UZ0 original. Still well worth having though! Alun > - "Palace Springs" CD (USA, not the picdisk) > From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Aug 20 04:53:40 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 09:53:40 +0100 Subject: HW/OFF: new Delerium items In-Reply-To: <9707198720.AA872044052@hpsc.hisd.harris.com> Message-ID: In article <9707198720.AA872044052 at hpsc.hisd.harris.com>, cjohnson writes > Just got in my new Delerium update catalog (check the web site for > a downloadable copy) and see some tasty morsels: > > what's the URL? -- Jon Browne From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 20 12:15:14 1997 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 17:15:14 +0100 Subject: HW: 4th world (now MFR) Hawkwind sale Message-ID: Just a quick update in case anyone is still interested. I went up to Stirling and had a chat to the guy who runs this mail order company and he promised to chase up my order and/or get me my money back. True to his word I received a couple of albums in the post this morning together with a refund to cover the rest of my order. So I'm content with that and hopefully this means that everyone else's packages should be on their way soon! The delay seems to have been caused by a house-moving problem (which conjurs up some deeply wierd and worrying images..... but I guess they don't train houses as well as they used to!) No matter. All will be well, all being well 8-) jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ianfines at JUNO.COM Wed Aug 20 13:05:56 1997 From: ianfines at JUNO.COM (Ian R Fines) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 13:05:56 -0400 Subject: HW/OFF: new Delerium items Message-ID: On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 09:53:40 +0100 Jon Browne writes: >In article <9707198720.AA872044052 at hpsc.hisd.harris.com>, cjohnson > writes >> Just got in my new Delerium update catalog (check the web site for >> a downloadable copy) and see some tasty morsels: >> >> >what's the URL? >-- >Jon Browne www.delerium.com From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Aug 20 13:19:34 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 18:19:34 +0100 Subject: HW/OFF: new Delerium items In-Reply-To: <19970820.130647.11502.1.IanFines@juno.com> Message-ID: >>what's the URL? >>-- >>Jon Browne > >www.delerium.com Doh! thanks -- Jon From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Wed Aug 20 15:50:36 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 19:50:36 +0000 Subject: HW: Davey dusted? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On the 05/19/92 live HW recording, Alan Davey sings in the first chorus of Hassan I Sahba: "horse tranquilizers, horse tranqulizers, horse tranquilizers.." - no shit! PCP (or "Angel Dust") is a very powerful drug originally used as horse tranks... and is usually smoked. I suppose Davey has more than one genie of the smoke??? Yikes! Just say no! Christian From paul at GROMIT.CS.VT.EDU Wed Aug 20 17:08:33 1997 From: paul at GROMIT.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 17:08:33 -0400 Subject: HW: Davey dusted? In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970820195036.006c9350@online.no> Message-ID: On Wed, 20 Aug 1997, Christian wrote: > On the 05/19/92 live HW recording, Alan Davey sings in the first chorus of > Hassan > I Sahba: "horse tranquilizers, horse tranqulizers, horse tranquilizers.." - no > shit! PCP (or "Angel Dust") is a very powerful drug originally used as horse > tranks... and is usually smoked. I suppose Davey has more than one genie of > the > smoke??? Yikes! Just say no! Because, I understand, PCP contains a stimulant component, it seems unlikely, to me, that it would be employed as a tranquiliser for horses (or for any other creature, for that matter:). PCP was tested by the US military on its soldiers as a possible means of "improving combat effectiveness." Unfortunately, this combination psychedelic/stimulant was prone to effect the onset of severe psychotic episodes, thereby deeming the drug unsuitable for such "field applications." Because of the potentially violent episodes that can result from ingesting PCP, its use is widely deprecated. Someone correct me on the details if I'm wrong, but I believe the above is largely right. Cheers, Paul. obCD: Sundial, _Live Drug_ e-mail: paul at gromit.cs.vt.edu "I didn't mean to take up all your sweet time" --- James Marshall Hendrix From mlooney at IONET.NET Wed Aug 20 17:27:48 1997 From: mlooney at IONET.NET (J. Michael Looney) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 16:27:48 -0500 Subject: Brain Surgeons - A Challenge Message-ID: At 10:34 AM 8/13/97 -0500, you wrote: > How about the Surgeons and Savatage combine talents and re-do the Imaginos saga. Oh, I like this idea.... From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Wed Aug 20 19:35:04 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:35:04 +0000 Subject: HW: Davey dusted? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Paul Mather writes: >Because, I understand, PCP contains a stimulant component, it seems >unlikely, to me, that it would be employed as a tranquiliser for horses >(or for any other creature, for that matter:). >PCP was tested by the US military on its soldiers as a possible means of >"improving combat effectiveness." Unfortunately, this combination >psychedelic/stimulant was prone to effect the onset of severe psychotic >episodes, thereby deeming the drug unsuitable for such "field >applications." > >Because of the potentially violent episodes that can result from >ingesting PCP, its use is widely deprecated. > >Someone correct me on the details if I'm wrong, but I believe the above >is largely right. > >Cheers, > >Paul. Well, it sounds reasonable enough - any mad scientists who can verify all this?? :) Certain chemicals can have different effects on different animals body chemistries, no? If I gave my cat aspirin he'd die, whereas I wouldn't (gee!). Or so I've heard. Of course PCP could have been tested on soldiers, as for some outlandish reason also LSD was. I've heard of adverse effects of PCP, that it is a very powerful hallucinogenic with stimulant properties... I know of people vegging out on it to the point of turning into the mental equivilant of a rock... It has been likened to having THC (Cannabis) like properties in very small doses as well, with strong visual/mental distortions at higher doses, and that it has a numbing effect (I remember all the news in the 80's of people freaking out on it and punching thru windshields, and still throw punches after the hands are hamburger etc.) Perhaps horses don't react to the stimulant/psychedelic properties but only the nerve numbing/vegging effects... interesting thought, can animals trip??? Are their brains rigged correctly? If we fed gorillas acid would they learn how to talk??? :^) Christian ObMonkey: The Detective Chimp From gnome at TELEPORT.COM Wed Aug 20 18:33:52 1997 From: gnome at TELEPORT.COM (Kevin Haskel Rubin) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 15:33:52 -0700 Subject: HW: Davey dusted? In-Reply-To: from "Paul Mather" at Aug 20, 97 05:08:33 pm Message-ID: Paul writes: > Because, I understand, PCP contains a stimulant component, it seems > unlikely, to me, that it would be employed as a tranquiliser for horses > (or for any other creature, for that matter:). In junior high health class we saw a movie about PCP and it was used as an animal tranquilizer. They showed a dentist working on a tiger that was zonked on PCP. >From Andrew Weil's _Chocolate to Morphine_: "It was marketed as a surgical anasthetic... Enthusiasm diminished when reports began to come in of unpleasent side affects...In 1965 withdrawn form use for humans." Says it's used for animals because, "animals could not tell their veterinarians that they disliked the side affects." -kevin obCD: The Brain Surgeons, _Career of Christmas_ -- Kevin Rubin aka 3999RK60 RU5M7I gnome at teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~gnome From ianfines at JUNO.COM Wed Aug 20 18:50:51 1997 From: ianfines at JUNO.COM (Ian R Fines) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 18:50:51 -0400 Subject: HW: Cleveland gig Message-ID: So....who exactly on list is going to the Cleveland gig? From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 20 18:53:16 1997 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:53:16 +0100 Subject: HW: are these rare, or just uncommon In-Reply-To: cjohnson's message of Tue, 19 Aug 1997 19:27:41 EST Message-ID: cjohnson writes: > Another vendor also had a copy of Hawklords 12" "Who's Gonna Win > the War" on silver/grey vinyl. The LP was in good shape, the cover > probably a NM/VG, but he wanted $25. Too steep for me on this one. > I still have a contact addy if any other takers want to jump on it. ???? Was this the 25 years On/Dead Dreams/PXR5 grey vinyl? > Captain Cloud FoFP From fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 20 18:58:16 1997 From: fofp at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:58:16 +0100 Subject: HW: Davey dusted? In-Reply-To: Christian's message of Wed, 20 Aug 1997 19:50:36 +0000 Message-ID: Christian writes: > On the 05/19/92 live HW recording, Alan Davey sings in the first > chorus of Hassan I Sahba: "horse tranquilizers, horse tranqulizers, > horse tranquilizers.." - no shit! PCP (or "Angel Dust") is a very > powerful drug originally used as horse tranks... and is usually > smoked. I suppose Davey has more than one genie of the smoke??? > Yikes! Just say no! Or Just Say Neigh. > Christian FoFP From flossbac at WCIC.ORG Wed Aug 20 20:04:36 1997 From: flossbac at WCIC.ORG (John Majka) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 19:04:36 -0500 Subject: HW: upcoming shows, questions etc. Message-ID: So is anyone from the list going to be in Chicago at the Cubby Bear? What a lame place to see a band! True to form, Cubby Bear hasn't promoted the show at all (In fact if you call them you can't even get any information) and tickets are not available in advance. The Hawks played there in 1990 and it was ok (followed the next night at the notoriously awful dive The Thirsty Whale), but it is mainly a sports bar, not very sizeable or anything. Question: if I go to the Strange Daze Festival, will I be allowed to exit and return after paying at the gate? I don't want to be trapped for two days, but would like to retreat to a hotel or somewhere. Does anyone know where I can get a Griffin CD edition of "This is Hawkwind Do Not Panic: Stonehenge"? Griffin stuff seems to have disappeared. John Majka flossbac at wcic.org From chrisr at TIAC.NET Wed Aug 20 20:52:58 1997 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 20:52:58 -0400 Subject: HW: upcoming shows, questions etc. Message-ID: John Majka wrote: > So is anyone from the list going to be in Chicago at the Cubby Bear? > The Hawks played there in 1990 and it was ok (followed the next night > at the notoriously awful dive The Thirsty Whale), but it is mainly a > sports bar, not very sizeable or anything. I flew out to those 2 gigs from New England. My recollection was that the Cubby Bear was pretty crowded compared to some of the other HW dates I attended in that time frame. Also, the crowd seemed very energized and nearly aggressive at that gig. The Thirsty Whale gig, I liked a lot better. It was less crowded and seemed friendlier. Also, what an opening band, The Sex Kittens. I will not soon forget the female lead singer pouring bottles of water all over herself and then jumping off the stage into the audience. If I remember correctly, the music wasn't bad either.Chris > > > John Majka > flossbac at wcic.org From sprawl at STARLINX.COM Wed Aug 20 21:21:31 1997 From: sprawl at STARLINX.COM (Ron Jennings) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:21:31 -0400 Subject: HW: Davey dusted? Message-ID: no expert here, but horse tranquilizers have nothing to do with pcp afaik. i believe pcp has something to do with formaldehyde, embalming fluid. to the best of my knowledge, i have done pcp three times. 1.it was called "t" and was supposed to be crystalised thc. it was not, as i understand no such form exists. 2.it was called "boat" and was a parsley joint dipped in morticians embalming fluid. 1 hit = 6 hours of nothingness. 3.as angel dust. all of these were done b4 i knew anything about pcp. it most likely has never been used as a tranquilizer, as it does not promote sleep, save for perhaps braindeath, and renders its user impervious to pain, and relieves the user of every iota of give-a-shit. pcp is the drug you see on tv where the cops pump a dozen or so rounds into the badguy, and he doesn't notice. not recommended. i know alan, and can't see him using pcp. maybe he tried it, like i did, but i doubt it caught on with him. IF he sang horse tranq in that song, id like to hear it, cos it is rythmically difficult to imagine. and if he did, he was probably referring to placidels or some such. (which can be a lot of fun, if yer stayin home and nothing to do.) here is one way you could tell if he was on any of these drugs... did his bass-playing suck? if not, then the answer is most likely no. rj From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Thu Aug 21 00:04:11 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 04:04:11 +0000 Subject: HW: Davey dusted? In-Reply-To: <33FB981B.D802EE7B@starlinx.com> Message-ID: At 21:21 20.08.97 -0400, you wrote: >no expert here, >but horse tranquilizers have nothing to do with pcp afaik. >i believe pcp has something to do with formaldehyde, embalming fluid. >to the best of my knowledge, i have done pcp three times. >1.it was called "t" and was supposed to be crystalised thc. it was not, >as i understand no such form exists. >2.it was called "boat" and was a parsley joint dipped in morticians >embalming fluid. 1 hit = 6 hours of nothingness. I have heard of formaldahyde being used/termed as PCP... I'm quite sure PCP was used as horse tranks, in fact I had art teacher once who'd spent jailtime for production/distribution of PCP and he mentioned that it was originally used on animals... As for the formaldahyde, is it possible that it is a great "all-round-product", a convenient chemical you can trip on, get your dog to sleep on and embalm your dead grandmother with all in one afternoon?? :-) >3.as angel dust. >it most likely has never been used as a tranquilizer, as it does not >promote sleep, save for perhaps braindeath, and renders its user >impervious to pain, and relieves the user of every iota of give-a-shit. >IF he sang horse tranq in that song, id like to hear it, cos it is >rythmically difficult to imagine. Well, he mutters some sound between each time... "yeah" or something.. >here is one way you could tell if he was on any of these drugs... did >his bass-playing suck? if not, then the answer is most likely no. Well, the question was not whether he was ON it at the time, but if he was referring to it... I doubt they play the song LSD exclusively on acid... (LSD is on the same show..) Silly rabbit.... Christian From senator at UGCS.CALTECH.EDU Wed Aug 20 22:18:27 1997 From: senator at UGCS.CALTECH.EDU (Bill Bradley) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 19:18:27 -0700 Subject: HW: Davey dusted? In-Reply-To: <33FB981B.D802EE7B@starlinx.com> from "Ron Jennings" at Aug 20, 97 09:21:31 pm Message-ID: > i believe pcp has something to do with formaldehyde, embalming fluid. "Embalming fluid" is just street slang for it. I've heard of emergency room visits from people who took it literally... The full name for it is Phencyclidine. > it most likely has never been used as a tranquilizer, as it does not > promote sleep, save for perhaps braindeath, and renders its user > impervious to pain, and relieves the user of every iota of give-a-shit. According to the Merck Chemical index it is a depressant, controlled substance (US code of Fedral Regulations Title 21, part 1308.12) the ethylamine, pyrrolidine, and thiophene analogs are hallucinogens. Veteranary uses Anesthetic (i.v.), analgesic Bill From flossbac at WCIC.ORG Wed Aug 20 22:56:01 1997 From: flossbac at WCIC.ORG (John Majka) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 21:56:01 -0500 Subject: HW: Davey dusted? Message-ID: PCP (Phencyclidine) was definitely formerly used as an animal tranquilizer. In humans, it has a different effect, acting like a strong stimulant and strong hallucinogen while reducing the ability to feel pain, thus explain the footage you sometimes see of people on PCP breaking police car windows with their fists, breaking bones in the process, and not seeming to mind. People on this drug are wild and out of control most of the time, although it does sometimes produce its hallucinogenic/anaesthetic effects without the hyperkinesis. Anyone who has actually used this drug more than a few times is pretty likely to be screwed up, as it is about as good for the brain as inhaling paint fumes (that is, not at all). Alan Davey seems pretty with it. He can play his instrument and form a complete sentence, so it's possible he may have tried PCP but I doubt he's done it more than a few times at most. I think he was just having a good laugh in the song, introducing a different drug (other than hashish) into the lyrics for entertainment value. And if he was serious, he was perhaps referring to some drug other than PCP. From everything I've read/heard, the Hawks are exclusively into natural plant drugs these days, nothing chemically synthesized, although there is little distinction as many natural products are just as damaging as those made in laboratories. Nik was a heroin addict for a long time, hiding heroin in his sax. Terry Ollis and Lemmy were into speed. Everyone except Huw took acid regularly. Huw's having had a drink spiked with LSD was one of his original reasons for leaving the band. I recall reading an interview with Brock from around 1989 where he said the band will sometimes brew up some psilocybin tea, or bake a hash cake, but things are pretty tame otherwise. Brock said that Needle Gun (Besides being a manifestation of the Black Sword a la Jerry Cornelius) was about the dangers of Heroin, which he considers evil. And of course marijuana is a basic staple. Anyone know anything else about the Hawks' drug consumption? John Majka flossbac at wcic.org From sprawl at STARLINX.COM Wed Aug 20 22:56:16 1997 From: sprawl at STARLINX.COM (Ron Jennings) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 22:56:16 -0400 Subject: HW: Davey dusted? Message-ID: > I have heard of formaldahyde being used/termed as PCP... I'm quite sure PCP > was > used as horse tranks, in fact I had art teacher once who'd spent jailtime for > production/distribution of PCP and he mentioned that it was originally used > on animals... As for the formaldahyde, is it possible that it is a great > "all-round-product", a convenient chemical you can trip on, get your > dog to sleep on and embalm your dead grandmother with all in one afternoon?? > :-) you may be right, i guess if they administer near deadly amounts it could have that effect. not enough and you'd have an uncontrollable berserk animal twice yer size knocking the straw out of you. > >3.as angel dust. > >it most likely has never been used as a tranquilizer, as it does not > >promote sleep, save for perhaps braindeath, and renders its user > >impervious to pain, and relieves the user of every iota of give-a-shit. > > >IF he sang horse tranq in that song, id like to hear it, cos it is > >rythmically difficult to imagine. > > Well, he mutters some sound between each time... "yeah" or something.. that still doesnt sound right, over which part does he sing it? it has too many syllables without the ''Yeah.'' > >here is one way you could tell if he was on any of these drugs... did > >his bass-playing suck? if not, then the answer is most likely no. > > Well, the question was not whether he was ON it at the time, but if he was > referring to it... I doubt they play the song LSD exclusively on acid... (LSD > is on the same show..) i see yer point, but the lsd song is CALLED lsd. are they not supposed to play it simply cos they were out? on the other hand, IF he sang horse tranq in a song that has nothing to do with such things, id guess there was a reason. > Silly rabbit.... ive been called worse. =) > > Christian rj From sprawl at STARLINX.COM Wed Aug 20 23:04:39 1997 From: sprawl at STARLINX.COM (Ron Jennings) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:04:39 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: dusted? Message-ID: Bill Bradley wrote: > > > i believe pcp has something to do with formaldehyde, embalming fluid. > > "Embalming fluid" is just street slang for it. I've heard of > emergency room visits from people who took it literally... > The full name for it is Phencyclidine. > like i said, no pharmacist here. but when this stuff was popular around here, there was a rash of break-ins in morgues. people were stealing the shit. it was in the papers. a bottle of this stuff was going for 2k$ on the street. the street name for it is boat. not embalming fluid. no one called it that. > According to the Merck Chemical index it is a depressant, > controlled substance (US code of Fedral Regulations Title 21, part 1308.12) > the ethylamine, pyrrolidine, and thiophene analogs are hallucinogens. > Veteranary uses Anesthetic (i.v.), analgesic > > Bill all that means nothing to me. i was simply reporting my own experiences with it. also, i've heard of emergencyroom visits from people who drank too much vodka, ate too much weed, or used too much speed. meaning only that we are not necessarily talking about the same thing. rj From monsieur at MYMAIL.NET Thu Aug 21 00:10:03 1997 From: monsieur at MYMAIL.NET (DAMON CAPEHART) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 23:10:03 -0500 Subject: HW: upcoming shows, questions etc. Message-ID: On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 19:04:36 -0500 John Majka wrote: >Question: if I go to the Strange Daze Festival, will I be allowed to exit >and return after paying at the gate? I don't want to be trapped for two >days, but would like to retreat to a hotel or somewhere. Yes, you may leave and come back. I called them today (Wednesday) and the guy said people routinely drive into Sherman to the general store there (remember, Sherman's only a block long), and if you don't have transport, the guy said it's easy to hitch a ride in and back. I don't know about hotels/motels, though. The nearest midsized town is probably Erie, OH (or is it PA?). Also, for those of you who are planning to camp there, bring - along with your tent - plenty of blankets. The place -is- in the Great Lake highlands, so it tends to get rather chilly at night. (I dunno... I've lived in Texas all my life. It'll probably be a walk in the park for most of you.) See ya there? I'm not sure which clothes I'll be packing. I'm the nerdy looking nearly 24 year old with the larger, not-as-nerdy friend. More details soon when I get the plan down more precisely. Damon From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Thu Aug 21 08:47:00 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Christian) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 12:47:00 +0000 Subject: HW: I'll see you beneath me when I'm high...(Re: Davey dusted?) In-Reply-To: <199708210256.VAA01415@wcic.org> Message-ID: At 21:56 20.08.97 -0500, John Majka wrote: > Nik was a heroin addict >for a long time, hiding heroin in his sax. What time period was this? He didn't look too good without the makeup on in the 80s... did he shoot up or enjoy the odd nosefull (would have to be alot with the latter :) > Terry Ollis and Lemmy were into >speed. Ollis also used something called Mandrax, Mandies as slang. I know it was some type of over the counter drug. I also read an account of Syd Barrett rubbing the stuff into his hair, go on stage and and basically veg out with melted gunk running down his face... I have no idea what it originally was used for but it sounds like some kind of depressant in large doses, in some type of pill form??? Ollis also apparantly always carried laxatives and a roll of toilet paper with him because Mandrax, like some other drugs, cause constipation....... Christian ObSong: Beatles _Doctor Roberts_ From abrevard at SHL.COM Thu Aug 21 08:57:02 1997 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 05:57:02 -0700 Subject: Off: PCP Message-ID: > "Embalming fluid" is just street slang for it. I've heard of > emergency room visits from people who took it literally... > The full name for it is Phencyclidine. > >like i said, no pharmacist here. but when this stuff was popular around >here, there was a rash of break-ins in morgues. people were stealing the >shit. it was in the papers. a bottle of this stuff was going for 2k$ on >the street. the street name for it is boat. not embalming fluid. >no one called it that. Yuck PCP nasty stuff indeed. I recall this stuff from the days of my reckless youth. Came in various forms and still does. Back then me and about 6, count 'em 6 others shared a single joint. When I left I swore I had an out of body experience, watched myself walking down the street to my home. Had a strange urge to see if I could actually jump over an oncomming car. Needless to say when my sanity was restored several hours later I vowed never to go near it again. Common street names for this were Angel Dust - Parsley soaked in PCP; Love Boat, Boat or Hinkley (After John Hinkley the guy who shot Prersident Regan, the honor was bestowed upon him because he had to be on Boat if he thought a measley .22 would do the job) - MJ soaked in PCP and the last incarnation I've heard of Blunts. I think a Blunt is a small cigar sized MJ joint soaked in the stuff. Needless to say anyone who has done PCP regularly is hard to hide; they are walking zombies. Sad but true the day I graduated from High School the class president, a truly wonderful girl, had her first and last experimnent with PCP. The batch she inhaled was mixed far too strong to be ingested. To this day she is still in the local mental institution, her mind wiped clean. The year was 1976. Thats the scariest part about PCP, you never know who played chemist. If they did their own product while mixing yours, you risked becomming an instant vegatable. Even Beavis and Butthead wouldn't touch this stuff. Can we talk about something a bit more pleasant....puhlease! L8er lil' ab "The true mad scientist does not make public appearances. He does not wear the "hello my name is" badge. He strikes from below like a viper. Or from up high like a penny being dropped from the tallest building around. He has but one purpose, to do bad things to good people with science!" - Chromedome From Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU Thu Aug 21 09:17:56 1997 From: Doug.Bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU (Doug Bates) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 08:17:56 -0500 Subject: upcoming shows, questions etc. Message-ID: John Majka wrote: > So is anyone from the list going to be in Chicago at the Cubby Bear? > What a I plan to do all four shows and can't wait to hear the new HW lineup. They've had time time to jell, so hopefully the new sound has cured into something thick and heavy. Also the prospect of five, six or seven (Capt Rizz,Lemmy?,Nik??) people making layers of noise harkens back to the old daze, which I favor. You know long hypnotic jams. Anyway, I hope to meet many of you. It seems Hawkfans from all over the US are doing some part of this tour, particularly the festival. Not being very unique I'll most likely be wearing a black HW T-shirt, either a Nethawks/ISOS or Area S4/Starship HW or the 95 US tour OR a white Nik "explode into space". Who knows, by the last day I may have face paint and no shirt, doing the ghost dance. > Question: if I go to the Strange Daze Festival, will I be allowed to > exit > and return after paying at the gate? I don't want to be trapped for > two > days, but would like to retreat to a hotel or somewhere. Not sure, but this place looks like its in the middle of nowhere.The drive from NYC to Sherman could be major task, are people driving after the Coney Island High gig or crashing (er, sleeping) a few hours. Highway 17 lookout... -- Doug Bates voice:(205) 934-9087 fax:(205) 975-7129 mailto:dbates at uab.edu From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Aug 21 08:26:56 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:26:56 +0100 Subject: HW: I'll see you beneath me when I'm high...(Re: Davey dusted?) In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970821124700.006c1590@online.no> Message-ID: In article <3.0.2.32.19970821124700.006c1590 at online.no>, Christian writes >Ollis also used something called Mandrax, Mandies as slang. I know it was some >type of over the counter drug. I also read an account of Syd Barrett rubbing >the stuff into his hair, go on stage and and basically veg out with melted >gunk running down his face... I have no idea what it originally was used for >but it sounds like some kind of depressant in large doses, in some type of >pill form??? Ollis also apparantly always carried laxatives and a roll of >toilet paper with him because Mandrax, like some other drugs, cause >constipation....... > >Christian I beleive Americans will know Mandrax as Quaaludes. Mandies make you randy.....(alledgedly) -- Jon From sprawl at STARLINX.COM Thu Aug 21 09:42:23 1997 From: sprawl at STARLINX.COM (Ron Jennings) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:42:23 -0400 Subject: Off: PCP (blunt) Message-ID: > and the last incarnation I've heard of Blunts. I think a Blunt is a > small cigar sized MJ joint soaked in the stuff. > maybe where you are from, they call this blunt. in philly, a blunt is simply a cigar-shell which has had the "stuffing" knocked out of it, and been refilled with about a quarter oz. or more of weed. no chemicals at all. a bit more pleasant than pcp, but a waste as far as im concerned. this is for people with a large number of party pals, and a lot of grass "to burn." rj From kfrazier at NCSA.UIUC.EDU Thu Aug 21 09:44:06 1997 From: kfrazier at NCSA.UIUC.EDU (Keith Frazier) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 08:44:06 -0500 Subject: HW: Davey dusted? In-Reply-To: <33FB981B.D802EE7B@starlinx.com> Message-ID: There was back in the 70's a misconception about pcp. PCP was an animal tranq. Most of what I saw was actually cannibinal. A derivitive of thc. Angel dust in the midwest was cannibinal and not pcp. Angel dust in large quantities can have the same mental burnout effect as extremely high doses of LSD. As with LSD if you have previous mental problems then you stand the chance of losing your mind. All the people I know who did angel dust aren't mental to this day. PCP may be a different story though. Wouldn't know from experience. Keith At 09:21 PM 8/20/97 -0400, you wrote: >no expert here, >but horse tranquilizers have nothing to do with pcp afaik. >i believe pcp has something to do with formaldehyde, embalming fluid. >to the best of my knowledge, i have done pcp three times. >1.it was called "t" and was supposed to be crystalised thc. it was not, >as i understand no such form exists. >2.it was called "boat" and was a parsley joint dipped in morticians >embalming fluid. 1 hit = 6 hours of nothingness. >3.as angel dust. > >all of these were done b4 i knew anything about pcp. > >it most likely has never been used as a tranquilizer, as it does not >promote sleep, save for perhaps braindeath, and renders its user >impervious to pain, and relieves the user of every iota of give-a-shit. > >pcp is the drug you see on tv where the cops pump a dozen or so rounds >into the badguy, and he doesn't notice. > >not recommended. > >i know alan, and can't see him using pcp. maybe he tried it, like i did, >but i doubt it caught on with him. > >IF he sang horse tranq in that song, id like to hear it, cos it is >rythmically difficult to imagine. > >and if he did, he was probably referring to placidels or some such. >(which can be a lot of fun, if yer stayin home and nothing to do.) > >here is one way you could tell if he was on any of these drugs... did >his bass-playing suck? if not, then the answer is most likely no. > >rj > > Keith Frazier Desktop Support Group NCSA U of IL. Champaign, IL. 61820 217-244-5701 kfrazier at ncsa.uiuc.edu From kfrazier at NCSA.UIUC.EDU Thu Aug 21 09:27:19 1997 From: kfrazier at NCSA.UIUC.EDU (Keith Frazier) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 08:27:19 -0500 Subject: HW: upcoming shows, questions etc. In-Reply-To: <199708210004.TAA28936@wcic.org> Message-ID: At 07:04 PM 8/20/97 -0500, you wrote: >So is anyone from the list going to be in Chicago at the Cubby Bear? What a >lame place to see a band! True to form, Cubby Bear hasn't promoted the show >at all (In fact if you call them you can't even get any information) and >tickets are not available in advance. The Hawks played there in 1990 and it >was ok (followed the next night at the notoriously awful dive The Thirsty >Whale), but it is mainly a sports bar, not very sizeable or anything. > >Question: if I go to the Strange Daze Festival, will I be allowed to exit >and return after paying at the gate? I don't want to be trapped for two >days, but would like to retreat to a hotel or somewhere. > >Does anyone know where I can get a Griffin CD edition of "This is Hawkwind >Do Not Panic: Stonehenge"? Griffin stuff seems to have disappeared. > >John Majka >flossbac at wcic.org > Myself and a brother from Boulder, Co. will be going. I live a few hours south of Chi town so looks like I head up early to make sure I get tickets. The local Chart Records have the griffin releases available. I talked the owner into finally getting hawkwind, ozrics, and Porcupine tree. He seems to only get the domestic releases though. There is also a local source for imports, but the price is a bit high. Keith Keith Frazier Desktop Support Group NCSA U of IL. Champaign, IL. 61820 217-244-5701 kfrazier at ncsa.uiuc.edu From sprawl at STARLINX.COM Thu Aug 21 09:44:41 1997 From: sprawl at STARLINX.COM (Ron Jennings) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 09:44:41 -0400 Subject: upcoming shows, questions etc. Message-ID: Doug Bates wrote: > > John Majka wrote: > > > So is anyone from the list going to be in Chicago at the Cubby Bear? > > What a > > I plan to do all four shows and can't wait to hear the new HW lineup. > They've had time time to jell, so hopefully the new sound has cured into > something thick and heavy. Also the prospect of five, six or seven (Capt > Rizz,Lemmy?,Nik??) people making layers of noise harkens back to the old > daze, which I favor. You know long hypnotic jams. > no confirmation, but i dont believe capt rizz is gonna be there. unless he is making all his own travel arrangements. i know hw have booked only four tickets from london to cleveland. i guess they are hiring road-help here. rj From micci at SCI.FI Thu Aug 21 10:49:51 1997 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 17:49:51 +0300 Subject: HW: 4th world (now MFR) Hawkwind sale Message-ID: I still waiting my parcel. Miikka >Just a quick update in case anyone is still interested. I went up to >Stirling and had a chat to the guy who runs this mail order company and >he promised to chase up my order and/or get me my money back. True to >his word I received a couple of albums in the post this morning together >with a refund to cover the rest of my order. > >So I'm content with that and hopefully this means that everyone else's >packages should be on their way soon! The delay seems to have been >caused by a house-moving problem (which conjurs up some deeply wierd >and worrying images..... but I guess they don't train houses as well as >they used to!) No matter. > >All will be well, all being well 8-) > >jill > >=========================================================================== >J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk > ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Just `cos you got the power Doesn?t mean you got the right /\/\ -Lemmy //\/\\ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _____//____\\_____ \\ // \\/\// \/\/ Miikka Wagner Email: hawk at micci.pp.sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Thu Aug 21 11:23:01 1997 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:23:01 -0500 Subject: HW: upcoming shows, questions etc. In-Reply-To: John Majka "HW: upcoming shows, questions etc." (Aug 20, 7:04pm) Message-ID: > So is anyone from the list going to be in Chicago at the Cubby Bear? What a > lame place to see a band! True to form, Cubby Bear hasn't promoted the show > at all (In fact if you call them you can't even get any information) and > tickets are not available in advance. The Hawks played there in 1990 and it > was ok (followed the next night at the notoriously awful dive The Thirsty > Whale), but it is mainly a sports bar, not very sizeable or anything. My fiancee and I are going (my fiancee only because I am, she is not a fan (yet)). All three times I have called the Cubby Bear about tickets I have gotten different answers. They keep claiming the tickets will be at Ticketmaster (as the ads in the paper imply), but Ticketmaster keeps claiming to know nothing about the show. I'll be wearing my Nethawks t-shirt, so introduce yourself if you see someone wearing one. Even if it isn't me, they are guaranteed to be friendly, right? :-) Frank ObGoal: Finding a way to get backstage at this show, too. -- ============================================================================== Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot. -- Steven Wright From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Thu Aug 21 11:31:29 1997 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:31:29 -0500 Subject: HW: upcoming shows, questions etc. In-Reply-To: Chris Raymond "Re: HW: upcoming shows, questions etc." (Aug 20, 8:52pm) Message-ID: > I flew out to those 2 gigs from New England. My recollection was that > the Cubby Bear was pretty crowded compared to some of the other HW dates > I attended in that time frame. Also, the crowd seemed very energized and > nearly aggressive at that gig. The Thirsty Whale gig, I liked a lot > better. It was less crowded and seemed friendlier. Also, what an opening > band, The Sex Kittens. I will not soon forget the female lead singer > pouring bottles of water all over herself and then jumping off the stage > into the audience. If I remember correctly, the music wasn't bad > either.Chris I remember the Thirsty Whale gig. I got there early and ended up seeing both sets from Sex Kitten. Their second (21 and over) set was less tame than the first one. The music was pretty good. I remember talking to the singer after the show, and she was a big Hawkwind fan, too. The Hawkwind fans at the show were giving her a rough time when they were on stage, but she took it in stride. Oh, BTW, Hawkwind played an excellent show. I have this one on video somewhere, but the quality is not great. Frank -- ============================================================================== Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 Actual sign in jewelry store window: "Ears pierced while you wait" From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Thu Aug 21 12:00:19 1997 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 02:00:19 +1000 Subject: HW: Davey dusted? Message-ID: > From: John Majka > I recall reading an interview with Brock from around 1989 where he said the > band will sometimes brew up some psilocybin tea, or bake a hash cake, but > things are pretty tame otherwise. I was wondering if it would be in bad form to offer this kind of hospitality to the band when they're in Brisbane, or not. For some reason I think it'd be pretty groovy to share a funny smelling cigarette with Dave and the lads. Or perhaps I've just smoked one too many of them............................................................... Max Wilcox http://student.uq.edu.au/~s333271/index.html Brisbane OzHawks http://student.uq.edu.au/~s333271/HawkBris/indexO.html From stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM Thu Aug 21 12:42:34 1997 From: stephen at SPATIALWARE.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 12:42:34 -0400 Subject: HW: Davey dusted? Message-ID: > > I recall reading an interview with Brock from around 1989 where he said > the > > band will sometimes brew up some psilocybin tea, or bake a hash cake, but > > things are pretty tame otherwise. > > I was wondering if it would be in bad form to offer this kind of > hospitality to the band when they're in Brisbane, or not. For some reason I > think it'd be pretty groovy to share a funny smelling cigarette with Dave > and the lads. Or perhaps I've just smoked one too many of > them............................................................... > I see you've never met Ron "Got Any Drugs ?" Bastard before...... ;-) Hide anything you have !! ;-) Steve L. From micci at SCI.FI Thu Aug 21 12:59:25 1997 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:59:25 +0300 Subject: HW: upcoming shows, questions etc. Message-ID: >John Majka wrote: > > Griffin stuff seems to have disappeared. > Thats because Griffin have gone to the wall. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Just `cos you got the power Doesn?t mean you got the right /\/\ -Lemmy //\/\\ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _____//____\\_____ \\ // \\/\// \/\/ Miikka Wagner Email: hawk at micci.pp.sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Thu Aug 21 14:19:09 1997 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 20:19:09 +0200 Subject: HW: Bedouin Message-ID: Hi folks Received today a letter from Alan Davey He told me that BEDOUIN are playing a gig on 30.08.1997 at Brands Hatch Race Track, near Dart Ford, east of London. The entrance-fee at the doors is 6 Pounds. And he informed me that BEDOUIN have a new management and that they'll go on tour in Oct/Nov 1997 in Belgium, Holland and Germany Bernhard From donnell at EPX.CIS.UMN.EDU Thu Aug 21 14:41:31 1997 From: donnell at EPX.CIS.UMN.EDU (donnell at EPX.CIS.UMN.EDU) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 13:41:31 -0500 Subject: HW/Lemmy reunion Message-ID: > Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 09:48:01 +0100 > From: Ola Nyberg > Subject: HW: Strange Daze w/ Lemmy > [...] > OK... the first bit of big news... I finally have confirmation of the > Lemmy/Hawkwind reunion. It is going to be for ONE SHOW ONLY!! It will > take place on Sunday, August 31 at the Brushwood Campgrounds in Sherman, NY > as part of the Strange Daze '97 Festival. Tickets cost $35 in advance and > $40 at the gate. This facility only seats 2000! This is sure to be a once > in a lifetime event, so if you have the means, I suggest strongly that you > catch it! So, Lemmy is going to be re-uniting for only the Daze show in NY? And what about the Chicago show - is Hawkwind still planning on playing there? Don't want to make the trip from Minneapolis to wind up seeing some local filler. Anyone else cruising to Chicago from the Twin Cities? Can someone please lay on us a current listing of the bands at the Daze? Would be a cool show to check out, and I have only heard mentions of bands going to play. Thanks much! -brian From canders at WJH.HARVARD.EDU Thu Aug 21 15:54:35 1997 From: canders at WJH.HARVARD.EDU (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 15:54:35 -0400 Subject: HW/Lemmy reunion In-Reply-To: <00133fc8bda009953@epx.cis.umn.edu> Message-ID: >> OK... the first bit of big news... I finally have confirmation of the >> Lemmy/Hawkwind reunion. It is going to be for ONE SHOW ONLY!! It will >> take place on Sunday, August 31 at the Brushwood Campgrounds in Sherman, NY >> as part of the Strange Daze '97 Festival. Tickets cost $35 in advance and >> $40 at the gate. This facility only seats 2000! This is sure to be a once >> in a lifetime event, so if you have the means, I suggest strongly that you >> catch it! > >So, Lemmy is going to be re-uniting for only the Daze show in NY? Now I'm confused, since I heard from Scott Heller that he had heard from Bill Stewart that Lemmy would be at the NYC show as well ... and that in fact Lemmy's appearance there was in the contract!! Since it's much easier for me to get to the NYC show than the Strange Daze fest, does anyone have any further info on this?? Cheers, Carl From cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Thu Aug 21 18:47:53 1997 From: cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 17:47:53 EST Subject: HW: Seven by Seven is not 7 x 7 Message-ID: Just got in the new Astralasia CD-S called "Seven by Seven". Despite having been the remixers for numerous HW tunes, this CD is COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO HAWKWIND. It contains 6 remixes of the recent Astralasia tune "Seven Pointed Star", and a remix of "Alien Love Song", but no HW. Being the Ast. fan that I am, I bought it anyway. :-) Captain Cloud (kinda disappointed) cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Thu Aug 21 19:29:19 1997 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 00:29:19 +0100 Subject: HW: Strange Combinations Message-ID: With Hawkwind in the States at the same time as the Rolling Stones I don't suppose..... 8-))) Actually - think of the lineup: Hawkwind, Motorhead and the Rolling Stones In your dreams! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM Thu Aug 21 19:49:35 1997 From: stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM (William Stone) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 18:49:35 -0500 Subject: HW: Davey dusted? Message-ID: You wrote: > >There was back in the 70's a misconception about pcp. PCP was an animal >tranq. Most of what I saw was actually cannibinal. A derivitive of thc. >Angel dust in the midwest was cannibinal and not pcp. As I recall, it was just the reverse. The deal was something along the lines that pure THC and it's derivatives could only exist at extremely low temperature or some such. PCP was cheap and easily available (a horse dose was half the size of your fist). Any of our resident chemists monitoring this? Wylie From inhaler at U.WASHINGTON.EDU Thu Aug 21 20:42:12 1997 From: inhaler at U.WASHINGTON.EDU (P Worley) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 17:42:12 -0700 Subject: British Isles Message-ID: I'm going to be in the UK on vacation from Sept 3-19. Anybody have any info on shows, etc. to see while I'm over there? I'll be going through England, Scotland, and Ireland. (Replay via email) Thanks, -Pete ObCD: Erykah Badu - Baduism -- Peter William Worley inhaler at u.washington.edu From ianfines at JUNO.COM Thu Aug 21 14:05:59 1997 From: ianfines at JUNO.COM (Ian R Fines) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 14:05:59 -0400 Subject: HW: upcoming shows, questions etc. Message-ID: I have a tape of GONG at the Cubby Bear on their last tour...it doesn't SOUND too bad. But, oh well. On Wed, 20 Aug 1997 19:04:36 -0500 John Majka writes: >So is anyone from the list going to be in Chicago at the Cubby Bear? >What a >lame place to see a band! True to form, Cubby Bear hasn't promoted >the show >at all (In fact if you call them you can't even get any information) >and >tickets are not available in advance. The Hawks played there in 1990 >and it >was ok (followed the next night at the notoriously awful dive The >Thirsty >Whale), but it is mainly a sports bar, not very sizeable or anything. > >Question: if I go to the Strange Daze Festival, will I be allowed to >exit >and return after paying at the gate? I don't want to be trapped for >two >days, but would like to retreat to a hotel or somewhere. > >Does anyone know where I can get a Griffin CD edition of "This is >Hawkwind >Do Not Panic: Stonehenge"? Griffin stuff seems to have disappeared. > >John Majka >flossbac at wcic.org > From flossbac at WCIC.ORG Thu Aug 21 23:36:53 1997 From: flossbac at WCIC.ORG (John Majka) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:36:53 -0500 Subject: HW: upcoming shows, questions etc. Message-ID: At 02:05 PM 8/21/97 -0400, you wrote: >I have a tape of GONG at the Cubby Bear on their last tour...it doesn't >SOUND too bad. But, oh well. You know, I was at that show and would be sort of interested in obtaining a copy of it. I have a tape of Hawkwind at the Cubby Bear 12-7-1990 (as well as about 100 other HW shows), 2nd generation audience tape. I'm hoping lots of tapes of these shows will be available, particularly the Lemmy reunion. John Majka flossbac at wcic.org From hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET Fri Aug 22 05:54:01 1997 From: hawkwind1 at EARTHLINK.NET (Dan Witt) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 04:54:01 -0500 Subject: HW/Lemmy Message-ID: > So, Lemmy is going to be re-uniting for only the Daze show in NY? > > And what about the Chicago show - is Hawkwind still planning on playing > there? Don't want to make the trip from Minneapolis to wind up seeing some > local filler. Anyone else cruising to Chicago from the Twin Cities? > > Can someone please lay on us a current listing of the bands at the Daze? > Would be a cool show to check out, and I have only heard mentions of bands > going to play. > I haven't given much thought to going to the Chicago show since I've already made plans to attend the festival. 16 hours is just too much driving(unless it was the only place they were playing). Jim Lascko sent me an e-mail last weekend stating that,, well let me just quote him > Lemmy's manager > did not confirm in writing Lemmy's appearance, so we were unable to advertise it but we do believe that he will play bass with > Hawkwind at the festival.Jim Thats all I know on Lemmy. I've been wondering though, if he does play with the band wont he be lost on any material that Hawkwind created after he had departed? It doesn't appear they will be rehearsing together. I'm just curious how this would work. I saw Lemmy at a club here last year and Motorhead was most impressive. setlist as list on the strange daze info page that accompanied my tickets:] Saturday Sunday Gaia Avatara 12-12:45pm Bionaut 10:45 to 11:45am Red Giant 1:30-2:15pm Nick Riff 12:30-1:30pm Nucleon 3:00-3:45pm Melting Euphoria 2:15-3:15pm ST37 4:30-5:30pm Born to Go 4:00-5:00pm Arc Met 6:15-7:15pm Quarkspace 5:45pm-6:45pm F/i 8:00pm-9pm Alien Planetscapes 7:30pm-9pm Nik Turner 10pm-12:00am Hawkwind 10:00pm-12:00am Lot of bands, are there any warm-up bands I should consider a must-see? -- Standing on the runway waiting for take off Dan Witt MInneapolis, MN USA From abrevard at SHL.COM Fri Aug 22 10:44:42 1997 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 07:44:42 -0700 Subject: Off: Blunts and whats up with MJ these days anyway? Message-ID: > and the last incarnation I've heard of Blunts. I think a Blunt is a > small cigar sized MJ joint soaked in the stuff. > >maybe where you are from, they call this blunt. >in philly, a blunt is simply a cigar-shell which has had the "stuffing" >knocked out of it, and been refilled with about a quarter oz. or >more of weed. no chemicals at all. a bit more pleasant than pcp, >but a waste as far as im concerned. this is for people with a large >number of party pals, and a lot of grass "to burn." You may be right as I have never indulged in anything called a blunt but I'm pretty sure in this area (Wash. D.C.) a blunt is dipped in something. If it is just .25 of MJ in a cigar shell I agree thats a tremendous waste. Whats up with MJ these days anyway? Allen Iverson and pals are inhaling and speeding along at over 90 miles an hour. Yesterday they stopped G'towns new point guard for MJ and speeding at more than 90 mph in a Ford Escort no less. Geez in the days where me and the boyz would get a couple of nickels and some beer to wash it down with all we ever wanted to do was sit in a dark room, and chill with some killer rock and roll for hours. Driving cars really fast was the last thing on our minds. Perhaps its the evil influence of rap music. 8>) Please note the smiley, I'm kidding on the Rap music thing. BOC content is it true that no current member of the band is doing MJ anymore? L8er lil' ab > Things to ponder > > If a parsley farmer is sued, can they garnish his wages? > From canders at WJH.HARVARD.EDU Fri Aug 22 11:28:00 1997 From: canders at WJH.HARVARD.EDU (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:28:00 -0400 Subject: HW/Lemmy (& Born to Go) In-Reply-To: <33FD61B9.3C54@earthlink.net> Message-ID: At 4:54 AM -0500 8/22/97, Dan Witt wrote: >> Lemmy's manager >> did not confirm in writing Lemmy's appearance, so we were unable to >> advertise it but we do believe that he will play bass with >> Hawkwind at the festival.Jim So NO ONE really knows what the deal is with Lemmy. I'm hoping he'll at least show up in NYC for a warm-up gig since I can't make the festival! > Saturday Sunday >Gaia Avatara 12-12:45pm Bionaut 10:45 to 11:45am >Red Giant 1:30-2:15pm Nick Riff 12:30-1:30pm >Nucleon 3:00-3:45pm Melting Euphoria 2:15-3:15pm >ST37 4:30-5:30pm Born to Go 4:00-5:00pm >Arc Met 6:15-7:15pm Quarkspace 5:45pm-6:45pm >F/i 8:00pm-9pm Alien Planetscapes 7:30pm-9pm >Nik Turner 10pm-12:00am Hawkwind 10:00pm-12:00am > >Lot of bands, are there any warm-up bands I should consider a must-see? Born to Go! They are way cool guys, though I still haven't heard the tape they sent since Tania thinks she lost it before I arrived in the US!! :/ But I expect nothing less than tremendous coolness from people named after one of my favorite HW tracks so check the out! Cheers, Carl From Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM Fri Aug 22 12:32:53 1997 From: Andy.Gilham at BTINTERNET.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 17:32:53 +0100 Subject: Off: Blunts and whats up with MJ these days anyway? Message-ID: >Whats up with MJ these days anyway? [...] Driving cars really fast was the last thing on our minds. >Perhaps its the evil influence of rap music. 8>) Or maybe it's those evil rock musicians in the 70's, going on about the freedom to smoke dope and drive at over 55 mph? There's your BOC content right there. :) - Andy -- mailto:Andy.Gilham at btinternet.com; http://www.btinternet.com/~andy.gilham From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Fri Aug 22 12:55:41 1997 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 17:55:41 +0100 Subject: HW/Lemmy In-Reply-To: Dan Witt's message of Fri, 22 Aug 1997 04:54:01 -0500 Message-ID: Dan Witt writes: > Saturday Sunday > Gaia Avatara 12-12:45pm Bionaut 10:45 to 11:45am > Red Giant 1:30-2:15pm Nick Riff 12:30-1:30pm > Nucleon 3:00-3:45pm Melting Euphoria 2:15-3:15pm > ST37 4:30-5:30pm Born to Go 4:00-5:00pm > Arc Met 6:15-7:15pm Quarkspace 5:45pm-6:45pm > F/i 8:00pm-9pm Alien Planetscapes 7:30pm-9pm > Nik Turner 10pm-12:00am Hawkwind 10:00pm-12:00am > > Lot of bands, are there any warm-up bands I should consider a must-see? F/i used to be thought of as an excellent band but dunno what they are like now. ST37 I remember someone mailing to this list that they were "Hawkwind clones" but I could never find any of their stuff to listen to and make a personal judgement. Melting Euphoria have produced an excellent CD and should be good. Enjoy jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Fri Aug 22 17:07:48 1997 From: cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 16:07:48 EST Subject: HW: are these rare, or just uncommon Message-ID: > cjohnson writes: >> Another vendor also had a copy of Hawklords 12" "Who's Gonna Win >> the War" on silver/grey vinyl. The LP was in good shape, the cover >> probably a NM/VG, but he wanted $25. Too steep for me on this one. >> I still have a contact addy if any other takers want to jump on it. > ???? Was this the 25 years On/Dead Dreams/PXR5 grey vinyl? > FoFP Sorry "Friend..", I don't remember. What I do have is the contact info for the vendor. As follows: Dixon Music P.O.Box 601 Summerville, SC 29484 USA (803) 821 - 9343 fax dmdixon at awod.com http://gemm.com/s.cgi/Dixon I made sure to get the address in case I got home and changed my mind about purchasing it (which I haven't, yet). Drop him a line and ask about the tracklisting, see if it is what you're looking for. I've already checked the web page, but the tracklist is not listed. Captain Cloud cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com From hawkus at HOTMAIL.COM Fri Aug 22 21:13:41 1997 From: hawkus at HOTMAIL.COM (Bob Lennon) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 18:13:41 PDT Subject: HW/Lemmy Message-ID: >Dan Witt writes: > >> Saturday Sunday >> Gaia Avatara 12-12:45pm Bionaut 10:45 to 11:45am >> Red Giant 1:30-2:15pm Nick Riff 12:30-1:30pm >> Nucleon 3:00-3:45pm Melting Euphoria 2:15-3:15pm >> ST37 4:30-5:30pm Born to Go 4:00-5:00pm >> Arc Met 6:15-7:15pm Quarkspace 5:45pm-6:45pm >> F/i 8:00pm-9pm Alien Planetscapes 7:30pm-9pm >> Nik Turner 10pm-12:00am Hawkwind 10:00pm-12:00am >> >> Lot of bands, are there any warm-up bands I should consider a must-see? yes... ST37 kicks space rock Hiney (in case therz younins on) Arc Met is cool F/i ditto ST37 Alien Planetscapes .....obviously... Born to Go!!!!! a must see..definitely... bl ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From kkusic at EXECPC.COM Sat Aug 23 01:01:05 1997 From: kkusic at EXECPC.COM (Karen Kusic) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 00:01:05 -0500 Subject: F/i Message-ID: > > Lot of bands, are there any warm-up bands I should consider a must-see? > > F/i used to be thought of as an excellent band but dunno what they are like now. Definitely worth seeing. Just caught one of their shows a couple weeks ago. (Just when I joined this list!) Their sound at that show was more "ambient" than I expected but they have a *lot* of material so expect to be surprised! Don't know if this is old news or not but . . . Here's their web site: F/i http://www.execpc.com/~bwnsng/fi.html While you're at it, check out this band that Nik Turner recently played with: The Moor http://www3.tripnet.se/~hmm/moor/ Highly recommended! Karen -- "Without music to decorate it, time is just a bunch of boring production deadlines or dates by which bills must be paid." - Frank Zappa From chuck at GENESISNETWORK.NET Sat Aug 23 01:31:06 1997 From: chuck at GENESISNETWORK.NET (Chuck Rosenberg) Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 22:31:06 -0700 Subject: HW/Lemmy (& Born to Go) Message-ID: ---------- > From: Carl Edlund for a warm-up gig since I can't make the > festival! > > > Saturday Sunday > >Gaia Avatara 12-12:45pm Bionaut 10:45 to 11:45am > >Red Giant 1:30-2:15pm Nick Riff 12:30-1:30pm > >Nucleon 3:00-3:45pm Melting Euphoria 2:15-3:15pm > >ST37 4:30-5:30pm Born to Go 4:00-5:00pm > >Arc Met 6:15-7:15pm Quarkspace 5:45pm-6:45pm > >F/i 8:00pm-9pm Alien Planetscapes 7:30pm-9pm > >Nik Turner 10pm-12:00am Hawkwind 10:00pm-12:00am > > > >Lot of bands, are there any warm-up bands I should consider a must-see? > > Born to Go! They are way cool guys, though I still haven't heard > the tape they sent since Tania thinks she lost it before I arrived in the > US!! :/ One vote here for Melting Euphoria! Don't miss 'em (assuming their live performance is on par with their studio). I also enjoyed St37, F/I and Arc Met doing Hawkcovers. And as for Nik, maybe they should be the headliners... Charlie From monsieur at MYMAIL.NET Sat Aug 23 02:53:33 1997 From: monsieur at MYMAIL.NET (DAMON CAPEHART) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 01:53:33 -0500 Subject: HW: upcoming shows, questions etc. Message-ID: On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 08:17:56 -0500 Doug Bates wrote: >... this place looks like its in the middle of nowhere.The >drive from NYC to Sherman could be major task, are people driving after >the Coney Island High gig or crashing (er, sleeping) a few hours. >Highway 17 lookout... Dave and I 1) will not be going to the CIH gig (I'm dragging him along to the festival as it is; we'll do what -he- wants on Fri. night), and 2) will be sleeing in just a bit on Saturday, then driving out (9 or 10 a.m.). That should get me there around 4-4:30, thus missing the first three acts (Gaia Avatara, Red Giant, Nucleon), of whom I've never heard anyway. Once again, who are the rest of these bands? ST37? Arc Met? F/i? Bionaut? Nick Riff? (I should know - we just discussed him recently) Born To Go? Alien Planetscapes? Thanks. Damon > > > >-- >Doug Bates >voice:(205) 934-9087 fax:(205) 975-7129 >mailto:dbates at uab.edu > From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Aug 23 05:15:42 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 10:15:42 +0100 Subject: Off: PCP (blunt) In-Reply-To: <33FC45BF.3A9F571E@starlinx.com> Message-ID: PCP is also an excellant song by the Manic Street Preachers BTW Guaranteed kick-over-the-furniture rock out every play! -- Jon Browne ObCd Verve - A Storm In Heaven From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Aug 23 05:13:32 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 10:13:32 +0100 Subject: HW : Moorcock Music Book Message-ID: copied from the Moorcock list..... _______________________________________________________________ Dear all, Please note the following new publication, and post it wherever you think people might be interested:- * * * 'DUDE'S DREAMS: The Music Of Michael Moorcock' By BRIAN TAWN With Lyrics by MICHAEL MOORCOCK Illustrated by ANDREAS STWE A 106pp., illustrated book about Michael Moorcock's involvement with music, from his teens to the present day. As well as text there are 57 illustrated lyrics, plus photographs and 6 page discography. 'DUDE'S DREAMS' is 5.50 including postage within the U.K., 6 to the rest of Europe and 7 elsewhere, from Brian Tawn, 27 Burdett Road, Wisbech, Cambridgeshire, PE13 2PR, England. * * * Not sure about Brian's ability to take non-stirling funds, but you could ask. Best, f'now. John. ____________________________________________________________ -- Jon Browne From micci at SCI.FI Sat Aug 23 11:12:36 1997 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 18:12:36 +0300 Subject: HW: are these rare, or just uncommon Message-ID: >> cjohnson writes: >>> Another vendor also had a copy of Hawklords 12" "Who's Gonna Win >>> the War" on silver/grey vinyl. The LP was in good shape, the cover >>> probably a NM/VG, but he wanted $25. Too steep for me on this one. >>> I still have a contact addy if any other takers want to jump on it. > >> ???? Was this the 25 years On/Dead Dreams/PXR5 grey vinyl? >> FoFP > I think that black vinyl issue is rare. Can anybody confirm? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Just `cos you got the power Doesn?t mean you got the right /\/\ -Lemmy //\/\\ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _____//____\\_____ \\ // \\/\// \/\/ Miikka Wagner Email: hawk at micci.pp.sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From micci at SCI.FI Sat Aug 23 14:10:46 1997 From: micci at SCI.FI (Miikka Wagner) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 21:10:46 +0300 Subject: HW : Moorcock Music Book Message-ID: Hi! I receive this last week. Excelent book, Brian has done good job. >copied from the Moorcock list..... > >_______________________________________________________________ >Dear all, > >Please note the following new publication, and post it wherever you >think >people might be interested:- > > * * * > >'DUDE'S DREAMS: >The Music Of Michael Moorcock' > >By BRIAN TAWN > >With Lyrics by MICHAEL MOORCOCK > >Illustrated by ANDREAS STWE > > >A 106pp., illustrated book about >Michael Moorcock's involvement >with music, from his teens to >the present day. As well as text >there are 57 illustrated lyrics, plus >photographs and 6 page discography. > >'DUDE'S DREAMS' is 5.50 including >postage within the U.K., 6 to the >rest of Europe and 7 elsewhere, >from Brian Tawn, 27 Burdett Road, >Wisbech, Cambridgeshire, PE13 2PR, >England. > > * * * > >Not sure about Brian's ability to take non-stirling funds, but you could >ask. > >Best, f'now. > > >John. > >____________________________________________________________ >-- >Jon Browne > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Just `cos you got the power Doesn?t mean you got the right /\/\ -Lemmy //\/\\ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _____//____\\_____ \\ // \\/\// \/\/ Miikka Wagner Email: hawk at micci.pp.sci.fi http://www.sci.fi/~micci From eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK Sat Aug 23 19:15:38 1997 From: eset08 at HOLYROOD.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 00:15:38 +0100 Subject: HW: are these rare, or just uncommon In-Reply-To: Miikka Wagner's message of Sat, 23 Aug 1997 18:12:36 +0300 Message-ID: Miikka Wagner writes: > >> cjohnson writes: > >>> Another vendor also had a copy of Hawklords 12" "Who's Gonna Win > >>> the War" on silver/grey vinyl. The LP was in good shape, the cover > >>> probably a NM/VG, but he wanted $25. Too steep for me on this one. > >>> I still have a contact addy if any other takers want to jump on it. > > > >> ???? Was this the 25 years On/Dead Dreams/PXR5 grey vinyl? > >> FoFP > > I think that black vinyl issue is rare. Can anybody confirm? "Who's Gonna Win The War" shouldn't exist at all on 12" vinyl - grey or otherwise - so if this is a genuine sighting then it's unique and probably priceless. However "25 Years" was officially issued on grey vinyl and is fairly rare - in that you usually have a wait of a year or so between copies appearing for sale. $25 dollars is about ?18.00 pounds which is definitely at the high end of its price range - I'd have said between 12.00 and 18.00 pounds was a reasonable price. The record company apparently used up the last of its black vinyl before starting the grey vinyl run which is why there are black vinyl ones around. There may have been fewer black pressed and so it is supposed to be very rare but there are plenty around for the collector so don't be tricked into paying too high a price for one. The ratio of black to grey seems to be 1:3 - but I'm open to correction on this. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at holyrood.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ianfines at JUNO.COM Sat Aug 23 20:42:33 1997 From: ianfines at JUNO.COM (Ian R Fines) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 20:42:33 -0400 Subject: OFF: Delerium Message-ID: To those i told that Delerium's webpage was www.delerium.com....it's actually www.delerium.co.uk. From nexus at PANIX.COM Fri Aug 29 10:54:51 1997 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 10:54:51 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind gig tonight Message-ID: Hey there, I've got my tix and all, but does anyone happen to know when the doors open at Coney Island High and when Hawkwind is likely to go on? JB, nexus at panix.com From abrevard at SHL.COM Fri Aug 29 16:40:36 1997 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD, Adrian R.) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 15:40:36 -0500 Subject: Interactive BOC FAQ Message-ID: lil ab> BTW I have heard that Wings Of Mecury may actually be a cover song. > Anyone know if this is true and if so what band/artist is the creator? > JS>And the answer is . . . (standard disclaimer: this can be found in the FAQ) JS>Wings of Mercury was written by Karl Percoda of the Dream Syndicate, which, at the time (around '85), was managed by Sandy Pearlman. It was a candidate for *Club Ninja* but apparently the powers that be thought the tune a bit too simplistic and perhaps stereo-typical of BOC's image. A bad decision, IMHO Ah Sir John tis truly a benefit having an interactive FAQ right here in BOC-L. Thanks for the answer. I agree with your IMHO, recently heard WoM for the first time and fell in love with it. Would have fit very nicely on CN. It did not impress me as a BOC song but I loved the way they played it. The CN songs on Crypt of Rays sound great live. Again thanks for the indulgence in answering yet another question covered in the FAQ. BTW whats the web address again, lost my book mark. L8er lil' ab "Ya know gang when you're a superhero you never know where the day will take you. You may find yourself halfway around the world in shark infested waters of true to life living or you may find yourself going down to the store for a lozenge. You can't know can you? No, you got to ride that wave, you got to suck that lozenge. Because if you don't, who will? - The Tick OBCD - Molly Hatchet Double Trouble Live From sonique at MAIL.PCMICRO.COM.AU Fri Aug 29 02:53:56 1997 From: sonique at MAIL.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Sonique) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 16:53:56 +1000 Subject: OFF: Helios Creed Message-ID: Check this: [http://www.foetus.org/news/] "After some discussions with Helios Creed, Thirlwell shall be the new lead singer for the next Chrome studio LP. It shall be at least a couple of tracks, though further involvement is not out of the question. They are slated to enter the studio in Dec '97." (Jim Thirlwell is Foetus) -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique //// '~ ( --- they sonique at mail.pcmicro.com.au /////// : ; --- Fly! From lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU Fri Aug 29 08:40:52 1997 From: lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU (dave cohen) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 08:40:52 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind NYC 8/29 In-Reply-To: <970731200302_-2008888375@emout16.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: are there plans to meetup at the show tonigt?? i'll try to check my email once more before i head off for nyc...however, in case i don't look out for a fellow bout 5'6" with a turquoise beret and a beard, that would be me. --dave From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Fri Aug 29 16:52:25 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Rattus Norvegicus) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 20:52:25 +0000 Subject: Hey????? Message-ID: I'm wondering what's up because stuff I send to the list doesen't appear (nor does anything else off BOC-L)... is the list down??? Christian From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Fri Aug 29 17:58:48 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Rattus Norvegicus) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 21:58:48 +0000 Subject: List disabled??? Message-ID: ...or what? If someone gets this can they email me at cannibal at cutey.com please???? Wazzup? Christian From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Fri Aug 29 14:38:07 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Rattus Norvegicus) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 18:38:07 +0000 Subject: HW: New York, New York In-Reply-To: <3407689e.2683309@pop.vnet.net> Message-ID: Did EVERYONE go to Strange Daze except me or what? :) Awfully quiet here, folks..... Christian obCD: Kluster _Klopfzeichen_ From stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM Thu Aug 28 22:36:58 1997 From: stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM (William Stone) Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 21:36:58 -0500 Subject: Porcupine Tree Message-ID: > >Also gotta get STAIRCASE INFINITIES, which were outtakes from the UtDs sessions. >Good luck on VOYAGE 34 (can you say "Pink Floyd, THE WALL?") as that is a rare >bird, too. > Actually they're both out of print. There are still some vinyl Voyage copies floating about, but I haven't had Staircase in either format in a while... Wylie From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Sat Aug 30 06:42:38 1997 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 12:42:38 +0200 Subject: HW: US gigs Message-ID: Hi folks Is our favorite band playing in empty halls ??!? I am wondering why the US fans are so quiet More informations about the gigs are VERY WELCOME!!!! Bernhard From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Aug 30 04:47:27 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 09:47:27 +0100 Subject: List disabled??? In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970829215848.006e1318@online.no> Message-ID: In article <3.0.2.32.19970829215848.006e1318 at online.no>, Rattus Norvegicus writes >...or what? If someone gets this can they email me at cannibal at cutey.com >please???? > >Wazzup? > >Christian Hi Chris, just low traffic, I guess! -- Jon Browne From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Sat Aug 30 09:13:59 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Rattus Norvegicus) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 13:13:59 +0000 Subject: List disabled??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Hi Chris, > >just low traffic, I guess! >-- >Jon Browne Well, stuff I sent yesterday didn't appear until today on the list (and then knocked out of order) - maybe something on my end, but mail from elsewhere worked okay... Definetly low traffic tho :) Christian From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Aug 30 05:42:21 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 10:42:21 +0100 Subject: DEF LEMMY : cover Message-ID: In an interview in The Face, the Lemster was asked what he thought of the cover of Motorhead by Primal Scream... "Palmer's Green? There's never a band called Palmer's Green?" replies The Bass Assassin #1 -- Jon Browne From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Aug 30 05:38:59 1997 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 10:38:59 +0100 Subject: OFF: Helios Creed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In article , Sonique writes >"After some discussions with Helios Creed, Thirlwell shall be the new >lead singer for the next Chrome studio LP. It shall be at least a >couple of tracks, though further involvement is not out of the >question. They are slated to enter the studio in Dec '97." > >(Jim Thirlwell is Foetus) BRILLIANT!!!!! Cardiacs support Hawkwind Foetus fronts the Creed Rat Scabies to work with Primal Scream (who are in the studio with Jaki and Mikael from CAN) My brother's Press Agent is also The Verve's (who I have to confess, i have been seeing on the side and have fallen in love with) Wot next? Julian Cope to gig in my living room? Syd to rejoin the Floyd? having a great summer! -- Jon Browne obCd - Luke Vibert - Big Soup (odd Mo'Wax Sci-fi Acid Jazz thing) From ben at ST-CANARD.SPC.EDU Sat Aug 30 11:23:11 1997 From: ben at ST-CANARD.SPC.EDU (Ben Cohen) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 11:23:11 -0400 Subject: ADMIN: Listserv catastrophic disk failure Message-ID: As some of you were wondering, there has been a problem with the list and the archives. I received the following mail from the Operations Manager for St. Peter's College (who hosts the list) at 6:00 PM EDT: Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr writes: > listserv.spc.edu's system disk crashed, probably as a result of being hit >by a 20' piece of copper pipe while plumbers were fooling around with the >heating system in the machine room. > > The disk has been replaced and is in the process of being restored from >backups. When the system comes back up, LISTSERV's state will be as of 4:00 >AM on Sunday, August 24th. This has a number of implications: > >1) your subscribers may receive duplicate mailings of prior postings >2) for moderated lists, any approval-required postings that you've already > approved may show as unapproved (no need to re-approve them as they've > already been sent) >3) archives between 04:00 08/24/97 and 18:30 08/29/97 have been lost (but > see below) >4) subscription adds/changes/deletions made between the above date/times > have reverted to their state as of the backup time. >5) anything I didn't think of above 8-) > > If you have archived copies of list postings distributed between the above >times, send 'em to me (digest format is best if you have 'em) and I'll see >that they're reinserted into the archives. Rather than have any/everyone sending mass archives to either myself or Terry, I'll ask that anyone who (for whatever reason) has saved the list mail from the past week _EMAIL_ me saying what you have and what format it is, so I can select the easiest way to rebuild the archives (if, indeed, it's possible at all). YnSSHM, Ben From makmorn at QIS.NET Sat Aug 30 16:29:08 1997 From: makmorn at QIS.NET (Daniel Ligon) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 16:29:08 -0400 Subject: BOC Tours In-Reply-To: ; from BREVARD, Adrian R. on Wed, Aug 27, 1997 at 02:26:14PM -0700 Message-ID: On Wed, Aug 27, 1997 at 02:26:14PM -0700, BREVARD, Adrian R. said: > According to Cyberbaron BOC will be in and around the Wash. DC area > three times in September with the last reported date (Pasedena, MD that > has to be AL Gators) on 9/20. Yup. Except now it's "Daytona's". I remember seeing the Boys there a few years ago when it was "The Network". > Of course Hampton, VA and Frederick, MD > aren't exactly next door. Anyone know where in Frederick they'll be playing? -- Daniel Ligon makmorn at qis.net I have known Geryon. He is not worthy of trust. -- _Inferno_ From raider at PIPELINE.COM Sat Aug 30 16:58:14 1997 From: raider at PIPELINE.COM (Brian Frenck) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 16:58:14 -0400 Subject: BOC Tours Message-ID: >Anyone know where in Frederick they'll be playing? At X-Hale. 244 S. Jefferson St. (301)698-9227. Nice place. I just recently made a commercial for them. If you see a tall young long haired hippie wearing a BOC Godzilla shirt, that's probably me. ----------------------------------------------------------- Whether it's On Your Feet Or On Your Knees, you gotta visit Imaginos. A Blue Oyster Cult Home Page http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/1615/index.html ----------------------------------------------------------- From corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET Sat Aug 30 18:45:30 1997 From: corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Sat, 30 Aug 1997 18:45:30 -0400 Subject: NYC Gig Aug 29 Message-ID: Hello all!!! The gig was great and I have posted the pix at http://members.aol.com/corwyn1961/index.htm I have eight pictures from the gig. Sorry about the bandwitdth, but hey pix from the tour the next day, dont complain Mike From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Sat Aug 30 22:34:46 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Rattus Norvegicus) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 02:34:46 +0000 Subject: NYC Gig Aug 29 In-Reply-To: <3408A289.405EA6ED@global2000.net> Message-ID: At 18:45 30.08.97 -0400, you wrote: >Hello all!!! > >The gig was great and I have posted the pix at > >http://members.aol.com/corwyn1961/index.htm > >I have eight pictures from the gig. Sorry about the bandwitdth, but hey >pix from the tour the next day, dont complain > >Mike Hey, cool pix! I guess the guy who looks like the unholy love child of Lemmy and Zodiac Mindwarp is this Capt. Rizz fellow? Mr. Bastard looks good in purple too. Christian From cannibal at CUTEY.COM Sat Aug 30 23:27:08 1997 From: cannibal at CUTEY.COM (Rattus Norvegicus) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 03:27:08 +0000 Subject: OFF: Helios Creed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In the normal world Jon, you are a freak. Why? Because of these obscure things of which you speak. No one understands what you say, and will politely ask you to go away. As above so below, and if I'm high... I might as well provide some answers why: >Cardiacs support Hawkwind Heartpatiens donate their past-use-by-date nitroglyserin pills to secret military research project involving exploding live bird weaponry, according to the internal CIA memo I just downloaded. >Foetus fronts the Creed A small religious cult led by an unborn child. >Rat Scabies to work with Primal Scream A demented psychoanalysts' incredible breakthrough research results within the field of primal scream therapy, according to medical journal headlines. To be taken internally before screaming. >Wot next? Julian Cope to gig in my living room? Syd to rejoin the Floyd? Much rather the other way around if I were you :-) Christian (attempting to channel Uncle Bob C.) From cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM Sun Aug 31 04:34:53 1997 From: cwheaton at TRANSWESTTAXI.COM (Cliff and Pam Wheaton) Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 02:34:53 -0600 Subject: Tonite's Impulse buy:) Message-ID: Hi all ! Just had to share a new discovery ( for me,anyhow) I went into my fave local cd store looking to trade some fairly ugly used stuff I didn't listen to anymore, and mant to get the Rush remaster of Caress of Steel. They were out of it, so I wandered around and found one I'd only heard about on the 'net in various places. I'm pleased to say that this one worked-Legendary Pink Dots-"It's Raining in Heaven". Nice. very nice. Now for the questions: what else have they got out there? is it all as good as this? If so-I want more. Now. :) thanx for any info on these guys:) I like them. Keep rockin' Pam -- Pam Wheaton Cliff Wheaton ____/----^----\____ The greatest tool Hej, I hope you all had a great time at the Space Daze festival. I just wanted to let you all know that Alien Planetscapes 1st CD is out and called Life on Earth. It is 60min long a has some pretty killer stuff on it! It was all recorded live in the studio, no overdubs. You can write to the band and Doug Walker at: Alien Planetscapes 191-32 116th Ave St. Albans, New York 11412 or call 718-723-1662 I am not sure how much the band is selling the CD for, sorry. scott Heller ObCS- Ozric Tentacles- Dour Festival, Belgium 1994