From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Sun Sep 1 03:33:37 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 09:33:37 +0200 Subject: HW: German tour dates Message-ID: Hi folks Here are some Holland and German tourdates - 07.09.1996 Tilburg, Festival (Holland) - 08.09.1996 Rotterdam, Nighttown (Holland) - 09.09.1996 Hamberg, Markthalle (Gemany) - 10.09.1996 Solingen, Gateway (Germany) - 11.09.1996 Erlangen, E-Werk (Germany) It looks like if the bad rumors are not true !! Bernhard From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Sun Sep 1 06:17:20 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 12:17:20 +0200 Subject: HW: new boot in the Nova Drive series Message-ID: just got this info from a reliable source: New Nova Drive CD: "THE A FILES". Recorded at Boulder, Colorado '95, 74 min. "-A smash success!" \\joe From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun Sep 1 07:41:11 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 12:41:11 +0100 Subject: HW : Underground Zero In-Reply-To: from "Gordon Hundley" at Aug 31, 96 08:21:00 pm Message-ID: > > that "Vera Gemini" track (or whatever it was called!) > > Uh-oh. I bet there are a few responses telling you that this was BOC! :) > The name that you're after is "Canes Venatici". Close. :) Oops. An acidental topic cross-over ;) Cheers, Carl From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Sun Sep 1 09:50:57 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 15:50:57 +0200 Subject: Reading 1986 programme Message-ID: Hi folks I am looking for the READING FESTIVAL 1986 programme!! If there is someone who wants to swap it or maybe sell, get in contact please cheers Bernhard From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Sun Sep 1 10:28:49 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 00:28:49 +1000 Subject: HW: Rumours of wars In-Reply-To: <960831222548_191926363@emout17.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 31 Aug 1996, Bill Stewart wrote: > In a message dated 96-08-29 21:17:18 EDT, you write: > > >He seems to be a really nice, decent, calm, honest sort of guy. I can't > >imagine what has gone wrong but I fervently hope that whatever it is can > >be sorted out. > > > > > > Yep, I agree, aside from being an intregal part of the HW sound, Allan is a > gentleman. > As far as speculating on what went wrong, who can tell what goes on behind > closed doors between friends and business partners, when your friend happens > to be in business with you (and I'm sure Alan and Dave are real close) all > sorts of crazy things can happen because there is personal aspect to the > business relationship that tends to make small things seem bigger then they > are. Sure hope this can be resolved with Alan remaining in the band. It all > seems quite sad, but this is in fact Hawkwind. > > regards, > Bill Stewart > Perhaps it would be wise to remeber that since the early 80's or there about HW have really been the brainchild/plaything of Brocky, and it really (in the end) doesn't matter a hoot who is in the band. We all have to get used to the *constant* lineup changes, and yet we all hate 'em. But we all keep on buying the records. I thought it quite an interesting point to compare current HW line up to NT's boys. Only time will tell how long the lineup change trend can go. Hope it lasts for an awful long time, as it probably will never change. Troy From acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK Sun Sep 1 11:17:16 1996 From: acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK (Andy Cobley) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 16:17:16 +0100 Subject: HW : Thanks Star-rats. Message-ID: Don't know if anyone else has done this but: Thanks Star Rats for the Dave Brock interview and could you pass Thanks from me (and probably this list I think) to Dave for taking the time out to answer the questions. Andy C From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Sun Sep 1 12:37:21 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 16:37:21 UT Subject: HW: Original SR release Message-ID: > What I wish to know form >those more knowledgeable than me is was SR released with a poster sleeve >and ordinary paper inners, or has someone (for strange and arcane >reasons) swapped them? My copy (bought as new, way back when) has one orange-and-yellow, and one plain paper inner. Maybe they ran out of the fancy inners and some went out without? - Andy From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun Sep 1 14:01:16 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 19:01:16 +0100 Subject: HW : Thanks Star-rats. In-Reply-To: <01BB9821.35B7C7C0@dialinppp.dundee.ac.uk> from "Andy Cobley" at Sep 1, 96 04:17:16 pm Message-ID: > Thanks Star Rats for the Dave Brock interview and could > you pass Thanks from me (and probably this list I think) > to Dave for taking the time out to answer the questions. Yes indeed! I thought the interview with Dave was extremely interesting and I look forward to pt. 2 and further interviews! An _excellent_ use of the web site! Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of ASNAC Studies, Cambridge U. * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 2 00:29:21 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 00:29:21 BST Subject: HW: MoorHawk Message-ID: my apologies - I just checked my interview archive and find that although Moorcock denied the early date of 1967 in connection with the dedication he did answer a following question thusly: ******************** > Is there any connection between the names "Hawkmoon" and "Hawkwind"? "The answer, which also explains the dedication to Dave Brock, is yes. Nik Turner and Dave Brock were readers of the Hawkmoon books and the apocryphal story which Nik, I think, nowadays denies, is that the first part of it came from a book by me and the second part of it came from a fart by Nik! Thus Hawkwind. " ********************* I hope MM won't mind me quoting this since he appears also to have now said more or less the same thing in the 25 years booklet - as someone pointed out. I completely mis-remembered this - sorry! Guess I should always remember to check my sources first...... 8-( jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM Sun Sep 1 20:52:21 1996 From: Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 19:52:21 -0500 Subject: HW : Thanks Star-rats. Message-ID: Thanks for the comments regarding the site/Brock interview. I would have liked the answers he sent back to have been longer, but I will take a different approach for the next one which should sort that problem out. Just as a note, I am working on a searchable database of the Hawkwind catalogue for the site (although it will take a while). I would like to ask the subscribers to this list what they would like to see in a database of this type. I have my own outline for this but would like to hear some other views so that I can get it as close to being right first time round. Yours, Star_Rats From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Sun Sep 1 21:58:25 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 20:58:25 -0500 Subject: HW : Underground Zero Message-ID: On 30-AUG-1996 13:09:53.3 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >Does anyone out there in that wide wide world (of sports) know how one >would go about getting hold of any "Underground Zero" recordings, if >there is any? That is aside from the stuff on the "Friends and >Relations" albums. >I'd be ever so happy if anyone could help me out of this (deep) fix >that I'm in... >Thanks. >- SparrowBreeze Fan #853489 Glad someone began a note with this header, because I've been meaning to ask (since picking up "F&R: The Rarities" a week ago): who exactly are Underground Zero? "Aimless Flight" is fantastic. Also, who exactly were Alman Mulo? I know Harvey and Huy are in there... Chuck `[1;36;46mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From skarsol at EROLS.COM Sun Sep 1 17:59:20 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 21:59:20 +0000 Subject: the bass ritual Message-ID: Carl E. Anderson wrote: > My guess for the track in question is probably "Time We Left". > The bass on that is amazing--it certainly inspires me! That alone > catapults the Doremi version of the song well beyond the Space Ritual > version and IMO its worth having the remastered version for that track > _alone_ (the others are great too, but even if it was just that .... :) i >believe< that is the one,but didnt want to risk misquoting alan.and this track, along with sonic attack,from space ritual,were the first attractions to hw that i found. rj From spacy at TELEPORT.COM Mon Sep 2 03:22:28 1996 From: spacy at TELEPORT.COM (Baron Bloom) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 23:22:28 -0800 Subject: HW,MM-An Alien Heat Message-ID: My copie of An Alien Heat 1972 says: "For Nik Turner, Dave Brock, Bob Calvert DikMik, Del Dettmar, Terry Ollis, Simon King and Lemmy of Hawkwind." I am kind of wondering what is the earliest dedication for Hawkwind on MM's books? ,BB http://www.teleport.com/~spacy/ ------------------------------- spacy at teleport.com (Baron Bloom) From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Sep 2 04:01:07 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:01:07 +0100 Subject: HW : Thanks Star-rats. In-Reply-To: <199609020052.TAA05645@deliverator.io.com> from "Hawkwind" at Sep 1, 96 07:52:21 pm Message-ID: > Thanks for the comments regarding the site/Brock interview. I would have > liked the answers he sent back to have been longer, but I will take a > different approach for the next one which should sort that problem out. I figured that was Brock being his usual personable self ;) Still, even his short answers contained a lot of interesting information. And I noticed a "smiley" on one of his comments ... was that "translated" from Brocks answers or (I wonder) did ol' Dave actually _use_ an internet-style smiley ...? > Just as a note, I am working on a searchable database of the Hawkwind > catalogue for the site (although it will take a while). I would like to ask > the subscribers to this list what they would like to see in a database of > this type. I have my own outline for this but would like to hear some other > views so that I can get it as close to being right first time round. Have you seen the outrageously immense Hawkwind Codex that was put together mostly by FoFP and Jill on this list? An enormous catalogue of each and every Hawkwind song organised into a ranking of various versions and sub-versions (ie, version 3a is like version 3 except slightly remixed, version 3b is 3 seconds shorter than 3a, etc.). Turning that into a searchable database on the web site (with proper attributions of course :) would be extremely cunning and at least all the work of comparing each track is out of the way. Another interesting idea might be a version of the "Hawkwind album poll" that the various fan clubs and this email list run on occasion. It seems to be that the web site would be a good forum for activities of that kind ... Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of ASNAC Studies, Cambridge U. * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From mumford at EUNET.NO Mon Sep 2 04:56:21 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 10:56:21 +0200 Subject: HW:Best of Message-ID: Just picked up another cheapo HW compilation from Castle called "Best of Hawkwind", released 1994. It has all the usual live versions of stuff found on the Anthology series and British Tribal Music compilations, despite its claim on the cover that it has "original recordings". There was one cool funky version of QS&C on there I hadn't come across earlier, and the sound quality is much better on the tracks on this version than the previous ones on the aforementioned compilations. Otherwise, pretty dodgy. Christian From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Sep 2 04:53:38 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:53:38 +0100 Subject: HW : Thanks Star-rats. In-Reply-To: <199609020052.TAA05645@deliverator.io.com> Message-ID: In message <199609020052.TAA05645 at deliverator.io.com>, Hawkwind writes >I would like to ask >the subscribers to this list what they would like to see in a database of >this type. I have my own outline for this but would like to hear some other >views so that I can get it as close to being right first time round. > >Yours, > Star_Rats I'd like to see some guitar tab, if that's possible. -- Jon Browne ObCD : Monkees "Head" Soundtrack : What a psychedelic Nugget! No, Really! From acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK Mon Sep 2 06:47:49 1996 From: acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK (Andy Cobley) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 10:47:49 +0000 Subject: HW: Original SR release Message-ID: Mike Wright wrote: > the bragging at my good luck, I now get to the point of this message, > despite everything else appearing pukkah the inner sleeves are plain paper > rather than the orance/yellow patterned ones. What I wish to know form > those more knowledgeable than me is was SR released with a poster sleeve > and ordinary paper inners, or has someone (for strange and arcane > reasons) swapped them? My copy has one palin sleeve and one orange/yellow sleeve. Andy C --------------------------------------------- Javap-uk, a uk mailbase for Java programmers To join javap-uk send the command: Join javap-uk firstname(s) lastname mailbase at mailbase.ac.uk From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 2 12:21:27 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:21:27 BST Subject: HW: Silver Machine/the other comp. In-Reply-To: Johan Edlundh's message of Sat, 31 Aug 1996 22:03:51 +0200 Message-ID: Johan Edlundh writes: > there's another hw compilation out entitled _Silver Machine_ > > ------------------------------------------------- > this said a friend about this item: > > It has an old bandphoto on the cover (all of them sitting on benches with their > feet on a table in the middle). It's on the Legend Label No. WZ 90144. > 10 Tracks on it: Hurry on sundown, Dreaming, Master of the Universe, In the > egg, > Orgone Accumulator, Sonic Attack, Silver Machine. Yet another permutation of those live tracks. Ande Garibaldi says he'll look into getting some of these. Legend is apparently a French label. I'm off to Geneva tomorrow and there is one good record shop there so I'll have a look for this. Cheers FoFP From a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK Mon Sep 2 09:19:24 1996 From: a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK (Andrew Fergus Wilson) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 13:19:24 -0000 Subject: HW : Underground Zero Message-ID: > Does anyone out there in that wide wide world (of sports) know how one > would go about getting hold of any "Underground Zero" recordings, if > there is any? That is aside from the stuff on the "Friends and > > - SparrowBreeze Fan #853489 ive got a couple of their things: an lp and a 12"; one of which is called 'never reach the stars', they're ok, but i still think canes venatici is their best track. i''' find out the tracks tonite and post a listing tomorrow. if you want i could tape em for you, maybe in return for a tape of anythiong you have: ya don't have magic square of the sun by the mooseheart faith stellar groove band by any remote possibility do you? who knows... a.wilson at derby.ac.uk "walking through heather dept of sociology "you gotta watch the weather uni of derby "when you got salt hair" gorky's zygotic mynci From aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU Mon Sep 2 10:50:52 1996 From: aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU (Duane Hoyt) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 10:50:52 -0400 Subject: HW: Original SR release Message-ID: Andy states: > >Mike Wright wrote: > >> the bragging at my good luck, I now get to the point of this message, >> despite everything else appearing pukkah the inner sleeves are plain paper >> rather than the orance/yellow patterned ones. What I wish to know form >> those more knowledgeable than me is was SR released with a poster sleeve >> and ordinary paper inners, or has someone (for strange and arcane >> reasons) swapped them? > > >My copy has one palin sleeve and one orange/yellow sleeve. > >Andy C > If my memory serves me correctly, which is a highly suspect venture, the original SR albums I bought in 1973 had plain white paper. I again purchased this album in 1980, and they both had white, translucent plastic sleeves, with the name Liberty printed on it. Duane From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Sep 2 12:23:58 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 17:23:58 +0100 Subject: HW : It's the Business Remastered? In-Reply-To: <01I8V75IGT1E8ZJTUX@delphi.com> Message-ID: I just saw ITBOTFTBD in HMV with a "Digitally Remastered : Artwork Faithfully Restored" Sticker under the shrinkwrap. Gotta be a mistake, right? -- Jon Browne From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Mon Sep 2 14:54:04 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 13:54:04 -0500 Subject: the bass ritual Message-ID: On 31-AUG-1996 07:43:44.0 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >> this i heard directly from him on tour. >> alan bought doremi,and gave it a spin.he was dazzled by the bass >lines i n one of the >> tunes(cant remember which).at this time he didnt know what the >insrument wa s called. >> he rushed down to his local music store(instruments),with a >recording of the song, >> and to the proprietor excitedly asked "what's that instrument there?" >> the guy told him it was called a bass guitar,and that was when alan >decided to play >> bass. >My guess for the track in question is probably "Time We Left". >The bass on that is amazing--it certainly inspires me! That alone >catapults the Doremi version of the song well beyond the Space Ritual >version and IMO its worth having the remastered version for that track >_alone_ (the others are great too, but even if it was just that .... :) >Cheers, >Carl I'll guess it was "Lord Of Light". And what about the SR2 version of Time We Left, don't you think that gives Doremi's a run for the money? Chuck `[1;34;43mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Sep 2 14:26:35 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 19:26:35 +0100 Subject: the bass ritual In-Reply-To: <01I907MYOHKY8ZK7KO@delphi.com> from "HERBERT119@DELPHI.COM" at Sep 2, 96 01:54:04 pm Message-ID: > And what about the SR2 version of Time We Left, don't you think that gives > Doremi's a run for the money? Not fair! I haven't got the _SR2_ version with me to listen to again (I've got the weird German CD of that anyway :) Still, I wish they had edited the SR2 material back into the _SR_ remaster. That would have been entirely worthwhile. Ah well. But certianly the _SR_ (as opposed to _SR2_) version of "TWL" is fairly unremarkable in comparsion to the amazing workout it gets on _Doremi_. Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************* Carl Edlund Anderson "So that's Terra. Oohwee, cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk look out wenchlings, here http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html come the Hawklords." cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk -Lord Lemmy (Hawkwind) ************************************************************************* From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Sep 2 14:29:27 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 19:29:27 +0100 Subject: HW : It's the Business Remastered? In-Reply-To: from "Jon Browne" at Sep 2, 96 05:23:58 pm Message-ID: > I just saw ITBOTFTBD in HMV with a "Digitally Remastered : Artwork > Faithfully Restored" Sticker under the shrinkwrap. Gotta be a mistake, > right? So are errors on the external packaging kollectable? ;) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of ASNAC Studies, Cambridge U. * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Mon Sep 2 17:25:37 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 17:25:37 -0400 Subject: the bass ritual In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Carl protests: > > And what about the SR2 version of Time We Left, don't you think that gives > > Doremi's a run for the money? > > Not fair! I haven't got the _SR2_ version with me to listen to > again (I've got the weird German CD of that anyway :) Fair or not, I think the _SR2_ version dusts the floor with all the others. IMHO. :-) > Still, I wish they had edited the SR2 material back into the > _SR_ remaster. That would have been entirely worthwhile. Ah well. Hear, hear! But I do recall someone on this list (Bernhard, perhaps) saying the _SR2_ material is from different gigs, so I guess it's "okay" (in a certain metaphysical sense) to omit them from the remastered CD. (I'd still have preferred them to use the _SR2_ "Time We Left" though!) > But certianly the _SR_ (as opposed to _SR2_) version of "TWL" > is fairly unremarkable in comparsion to the amazing workout it gets > on _Doremi_. No kidding. I got a new, deeper appreciation of that track after listening to my _Doremi_ remaster! (That, and "Brainstorm", which never truly grabbed me before, but which opens up newer intricacies on the remastered CD.) In fact, after listening to the _Doremi_ remaster, I'd say I got a much better liking for the album. It was like meeting an old friend you'd always taken for granted all these years, but never knew what a talented person they were all this time. Cheers, Paul. obCD: Frank Zappa, _YCDTOSA 2_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Mon Sep 2 17:27:57 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 17:27:57 -0400 Subject: HW RUMOR GOOD NEWS Message-ID: Hi all, Mary Bruce left a message on my answering machine today at 1PM. She had just got off the phone with Alan Davey. He stated to her that he has been practising with the band all weekend, before he spoke to her he was talking to both Richard and Dave....all the rumors were exaggerations.....everything is hunky dory....kissy kissy.....in fact they all slept in the same bed ...opps regards, Bill Stewart From lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU Mon Sep 2 17:56:08 1996 From: lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU (dave cohen) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 17:56:08 -0400 Subject: Moorcock reading tape (OFF, i suppose) In-Reply-To: <960902172757_275340123@emout16.mail.aol.com> from "Bill Stewart" at Sep 2, 96 05:27:57 pm Message-ID: just an quick announcement to let anyone who's intersted know i've gotten a tape of the radio broadcast of Moorcocks reading in NYC of 8/19, along with an interview done later that week. if anyone cares to trade i'm most intersted in trading for tapes of Moorcock doing readings, interviews etc or him with HW (such as dates below) - 22.06.1971 - 25.07.1973 - 10.08.1974 - 16.12.1980 - 12.11.1982 - 13.03.1984 - 17.04.1984 - 04.12.1985 so email me if you're interested and don't worry if you've none of the stuff listed above as i'm pretty open about trades etc... dave lapis at pobox.upenn.edu From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Tue Sep 3 00:38:22 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 23:38:22 -0500 Subject: HW : Thanks Star-rats. Message-ID: On 1-SEP-1996 14:03:01.7 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >> Thanks Star Rats for the Dave Brock interview and could >> you pass Thanks from me (and probably this list I think) >> to Dave for taking the time out to answer the questions. >Yes indeed! I thought the interview with Dave was extremely >interesting and I look forward to pt. 2 and further interviews! >An _excellent_ use of the web site! >Cheers, >Carl >************************************************************************ >Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett >cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" >http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * >Dept. of ASNAC Studies, Cambridge U. * -- Pippi Langstrump >************************************************************************ Was this int forwarded to the list? I don't think I ever saw it... Chuck `[1;33;44mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From skarsol at EROLS.COM Mon Sep 2 21:21:58 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:21:58 +0000 Subject: the bass ritual Message-ID: Paul Mather wrote: > Fair or not, I think the _SR2_ version dusts the floor with all the > others. IMHO. :-) pardon my ignorance,but is SR2 the same as ridicule?i have ridicule but not the other.ive never grabbed sr2,cos way back when i heard it said somewhere that ridicule was merely a boot release of sr 2. i always thot the sound was really poor on ridicule,but then that was one of the first vinyl peices i picked up,and havent listened to it in nearly ten years.guess its time.... rj From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Tue Sep 3 03:05:19 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:05:19 +0200 Subject: the bass ritual Message-ID: >pardon my ignorance,but is SR2 the same as ridicule?i have ridicule but >not the other.ive never grabbed sr2,cos way back when i heard it said >somewhere that ridicule was merely a boot release of sr 2. >i always thot the sound was really poor on ridicule,but then that was >one of the first vinyl peices i picked up,and havent listened to it >in nearly ten years.guess its time.... rj the Ridicule single vinyl is one of the lp's from the double album Space Ritual vol II - \\joe From mumford at EUNET.NO Tue Sep 3 03:41:29 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:41:29 +0200 Subject: HW: The Aubergine that Ate Rangoon??? Message-ID: Isn't this a tip off the hat to a monster-movie spoof called "The Eggplant that ate Cincinatti" or some such thing? I'm not sure about the what city, but I know it was an eggplant. Christian From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Tue Sep 3 05:02:38 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:02:38 UT Subject: The Aubergine that Ate Rangoon??? Message-ID: >From the "trivia" file: --- The Aubergine that ate Rangoon - title parodies the novelty song "The Eggplant that ate Chicago". Rangoon is the capital of Burma (Myanmar), and an aubergine is the vegetable known to Americans as an "egg-plant". --- Get the whole file from the Sonique page! - Andy From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 3 07:30:55 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:30:55 +0100 Subject: the bass ritual In-Reply-To: from "Paul Mather" at Sep 2, 96 05:25:37 pm Message-ID: > In fact, after listening to the _Doremi_ remaster, I'd > say I got a much better liking for the album. It was like meeting an old > friend you'd always taken for granted all these years, but never knew > what a talented person they were all this time. My experience was similar--while acquiring the remasters was undoubtedly an important contributing factor to my current poverty ... I really can't say that I regret having done it! Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of ASNAC Studies, Cambridge U. * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 3 07:37:37 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:37:37 +0100 Subject: the bass ritual In-Reply-To: <322B8836.C96@erols.com> from "SKARSOL" at Sep 3, 96 01:21:58 am Message-ID: > i always thot the sound was really poor on ridicule,but then that was > one of the first vinyl peices i picked up,and havent listened to it > in nearly ten years.guess its time.... rj All the more reason these tracks should really get the cleanup treatment that the regular EMI material got! Cheers, Carl ********************************************************************** Carl Edlund Anderson ASNAC Dept., Cambridge U. cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk ********************************************************************** From a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK Tue Sep 3 09:11:35 1996 From: a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK (Andrew Fergus Wilson) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 13:11:35 -0000 Subject: underground zero Message-ID: okay, here's the underground stuff that i know of: 12" Seven Light Years/Canes Venatici (UZ0 UNDER001) Lp Never Reach The Stars Seven Light Years/Robot/Forlorn and Lethal Between Worlds/The Elite/Never Reach the Stars (i guess orig on flicknife, but i seem to have got a spanish pressing on ASPA records (ASLE -0010) from somewhere) crew: Andrew Rix-bs, Adrian Rix-kbs, Judi Griggs-vcls, Karl Dawson-gtr, Paul Holden-gtr, Sean Holden-dms hope it's some help andrew w a.wilson at derby.ac.uk "walking through heather dept of sociology "you gotta watch the weather uni of derby "when you got salt hair" gorky's zygotic mynci From mumford at EUNET.NO Tue Sep 3 08:43:23 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 14:43:23 +0200 Subject: HW:NYC show 95 - the dancing guy! Message-ID: Umm... When Hawkwind played at the Limelight show last year in New York, there was this one guy having a jolly good time dancing a dramatized type strange fairy-like dance up front, wiggling to and fro and making strange gestures in the air as if he were somehow involved in some sort of sign-language with invisible people. I remember he got so into it people actually cleared a space for him. I stood up in the rafters for awhile watching him, and for awhile I found him more interesting to watch than Ron's antics onstage - if I remember correctly he was a smallish bespectacled bearded fellow - anybody on this list perhaps? Well, I'm sure he could get a job with Hawkwind's dancing troupe on the next stateside tour. Or was I just hallucinating? From mumford at EUNET.NO Tue Sep 3 08:59:31 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 14:59:31 +0200 Subject: Rock Legends Message-ID: I had a one of those sleazy 4CD compilation sets called "Rock Legends" which had some Hawkwind and Blue Oyster Cult live material on it. I think the Hawkwind material was Space Chase (from Levitation), Brainstorm (from Live '79, I think), and maybe Earth Calling and a few other ones. The BOC stuff was a very cool live version of Born to Be Wild, which rocks so hard it sounds like everything starts crashing apart towards the end, and a live version of Don't Fear The Reaper. It also had some worthy Motorhead material on it. Does anybody know excactly the source of these recordings? Not the kind of thing I usually go for, but I was broke as hell and needed a quick fix of cheap 70's rock..... Christian From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Tue Sep 3 09:00:24 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:00:24 -0400 Subject: HW:NYC show 95 - the dancing guy! Message-ID: The dancing guy was from Long Island.... a member of The Veteran Cosmic Rocker's entourage...I see this guy all the time at various shows... regards, Bill Stewart From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Tue Sep 3 09:01:38 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:01:38 -0400 Subject: Fwd: HW RUMOR GOOD NEWS Message-ID: --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: HW RUMOR GOOD NEWS Date: 96-09-02 17:28:12 EDT From: Stewartbas To: BOC-L at listserv.spc.edu Hi all, Mary Bruce left a message on my answering machine today at 1PM. She had just got off the phone with Alan Davey. He stated to her that he has been practising with the band all weekend, before he spoke to her he was talking to both Richard and Dave....all the rumors were exaggerations.....everything is hunky dory....kissy kissy.....in fact they all slept in the same bed ...opps regards, Bill Stewart From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Tue Sep 3 09:39:32 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 13:39:32 UT Subject: underground zero Message-ID: > Forlorn and Lethal Oh, a classic - love that rhyme Kalashnikov For your love :) Shame the production's so lousy, really - they were a lot of fun! Much like early Mournblade... - Andy ObCD: Deniz Tek - _Orphan Tracks_ From egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US Tue Sep 3 10:00:50 1996 From: egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US (Ed Gallagher) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:00:50 -0500 Subject: HW:NYC show 95 - the dancing guy! In-Reply-To: <322C27EB.7065@eunet.no> from "Christian Mumford" at Sep 3, 96 02:43:23 pm Message-ID: > there was this one guy having a jolly good time dancing a > dramatized type strange fairy-like dance up front, wiggling to and fro > and making strange gestures in the air as if he were somehow involved in > some sort of sign-language with invisible people. I remember he got so Sounds like any of several hundred people I saw at the last Dead show. ;-} -- "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein Edward Gallagher Internet egallagh at harper.cc.il.us Advanced Technology Specialist William Rainey Harper College Information Systems/User Service Pager (708) 962-4886 1200 W. Algonquin Rd. FAX (847) 925-6036 Palatine, IL 60067 Old Fashion Way (847) 925-6134 From egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US Tue Sep 3 10:58:43 1996 From: egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US (Ed Gallagher) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:58:43 -0500 Subject: OFF: Tangerine Dream In-Reply-To: <9606252038.aa20780@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> from "M Holmes" at Jun 25, 96 08:38:28 pm Message-ID: I was running through some old messages that I hadn't gotten to and came across this post that brought up some old memories. > Tangerine Dream have taken 20 minute beer breaks while leaving the > 'puters running at shows I've attended. I'm certain that some avant > garde composer will already have done the above. > > FoFP > Does anyone have some info on TD's current status, web page, list serv, concert dates (US), or anything else? Thanks! -- "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein Edward Gallagher Internet egallagh at harper.cc.il.us Advanced Technology Specialist William Rainey Harper College Information Systems/User Service Pager (708) 962-4886 1200 W. Algonquin Rd. FAX (847) 925-6036 Palatine, IL 60067 Old Fashion Way (847) 925-6134 From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Tue Sep 3 12:21:30 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 11:21:30 EST Subject: underground zero Message-ID: > > - Andy > > ObCD: Deniz Tek - _Orphan Tracks_ Andy, Could you provide some details on this disc? theo From skarsol at EROLS.COM Tue Sep 3 08:53:34 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:53:34 +0000 Subject: the bass ritual Message-ID: Johan Edlundh wrote: > the Ridicule single vinyl is one of the lp's from the double album Space Ritual vol II - \\joe so i should go get it then? thanks for the reply. rj From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Tue Sep 3 13:03:10 1996 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 13:03:10 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Fwd: NJ Record Message-ID: Thought you might enjoy this, courtesy of Ritch Pee, lawyer/journalist/database-searcher. --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: NJ Record Date: 96-08-28 23:55:58 EDT From: Ritch Pee To: DFrost8547 The Record, Northern New Jersey Copyright 1996 Friday, August 9, 1996 LIFESTYLE / PREVIEWS QUICK SPINS ANTHONY P. BELLE The Brain Surgeons, "Trepanation" (Cellsum Records; running time: 49.51, 14 tracks) @@@ You don't have to be a brain surgeon to realize that the music scene has been lacking a true hard rock band for quite some time. "Trepanation," the Brain Surgeon's second release, fills the void with 14 songs varying from hard to light rock. The band, featuring the husband-and-wife team Al Bouchard (formerly of Blue Oyster Cult) and Deborah Frost, has talented musicians who sparkle on a number of instruments. Bouchard handles drums, guitars, keyboards, saxophone, ebow, and vocals while Frost sings, plays guitar, percussion, and clarinet. Rounding out the band is Billy Hilfiger (brother of Tommy, the fashion designer) on lead, rhythm, and acoustic guitars and vocals; Peter Bohovesky on lead and rhythm guitars, vocals, and trumpet, and David Hirschberg on bass, sax and percussion. "A Kiss is a Promise" and "Everything is Blue" are delicate, mood-changing ballads, while "My Civilization" and "Happy New Year" show off a mean, slow rock sound. Mixed in the collection are fun, light-rock songs reminiscent of the Pretenders and The Moody Blues ("Sally," "If You Come Close"). Showing yet another angle of their rock sound, "Bad Habit" sounds like the Doors' "Love Her Madly." The band also covers Robert Johnson's "Stones In My Passageway" with a destinctive Led Zeppelin flair. Frost, a vocal cross between Alannah Myles and Ozzy Osbourne, grabs a listener's ear on "Gimme Nothin.' " Bouchard wrote most of the album's songs and his drum sound is hard and steady. His brother and ex-Blue Oyster comrade, Joe Bouchard, contributes a tremendous mandolin intro on "A Kiss Is A Promise." With varying degrees of rock intensity, this family effort has the cure for what ails starving rock fans. From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Sep 3 04:48:33 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:48:33 +0100 Subject: HW RUMOR GOOD NEWS In-Reply-To: <960902172757_275340123@emout16.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: In message <960902172757_275340123 at emout16.mail.aol.com>, Bill Stewart writes >Hi all, >Mary Bruce left a message on my answering machine today at 1PM. >She had just got off the phone with Alan Davey. He stated to her that he has >been practising with the band all weekend, before he spoke to her he was >talking to both Richard and Dave....all the rumors were >exaggerations.....everything is hunky dory....kissy kissy.....in fact they >all slept in the same bed ...opps > >regards, >Bill Stewart Hooray! Hooray!! ***** ***** *** * * * * *********** -- Jon Browne From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Sep 3 13:46:29 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 18:46:29 +0100 Subject: HW:NYC show 95 - the dancing guy! In-Reply-To: <960903090023_193247963@emout17.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: In message <960903090023_193247963 at emout17.mail.aol.com>, Bill Stewart writes >The dancing guy was from Long Island.... a member of The Veteran Cosmic >Rocker's entourage...I see this guy all the time at various shows... >regards, >Bill Stewart He sounds like a *very* well known "dancin' fool" on the UK Freak Scene a few years back. Anyone remember Jesus? he disappeared for a while and when he reappeared at a Pop Will Eat Itself gig, it even made the Melody Maker (UK Music Press) " JESUS IS ALIVE! went the headline. -- Jon Browne From swann at MINDVOX.COM Tue Sep 3 14:17:10 1996 From: swann at MINDVOX.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 14:17:10 -0400 Subject: OFF: sabbath/moorcock? -Reply In-Reply-To: from "Brad M. Lauchnor" at Aug 26, 96 08:44:38 am Message-ID: > >>> Stephen Swann 08/22/96 06:35pm >>> > But this post pretty much agrees in total with my perception Dio's > career: _Heaven and Hell_ and Rainbow's _Rising_ are definitely the > high points. I've been looking for the remastered _Heaven and Hell_, > but the damn things sells out as fast the local record stores can > stock it. _Rising_... well, I just keep praying. :-) Brad M. Lauchnor writes: > > I have rising on disk. I think I got it at a used CD store. That anyone would > buy this on CD then trade it... blasphemy. I have it too, and unfortunately the CD is really muddy. If I had it on vinyl, I would probably ditch the CD too. I just keep hoping that somebody will remaster it. Steve swann at panix.com From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Tue Sep 3 15:32:14 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 14:32:14 -0500 Subject: the bass ritual Message-ID: On 3-SEP-1996 03:06:41.3 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >>pardon my ignorance,but is SR2 the same as ridicule?i have ridicule but >>not the other.ive never grabbed sr2,cos way back when i heard it said >>somewhere that ridicule was merely a boot release of sr 2. >>i always thot the sound was really poor on ridicule,but then that was >>one of the first vinyl peices i picked up,and havent listened to it >>in nearly ten years.guess its time.... rj >the Ridicule single vinyl is one of the lp's from the double album >Space Ritu al vol II - \\joe I have the SR2 CD...and I think it's better produced than SR1...though not the remaster. Chuck `[1;36;41mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Tue Sep 3 15:32:23 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 14:32:23 -0500 Subject: underground zero Message-ID: On 3-SEP-1996 08:15:15.8 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >okay, here's the underground stuff that i know of: >12" Seven Light Years/Canes Venatici (UZ0 UNDER001) >Lp Never Reach The Stars >Seven Light Years/Robot/Forlorn and Lethal >Between Worlds/The Elite/Never Reach the Stars (i guess orig on >flicknife, but i seem to have got a spanish pressing on ASPA records >(ASLE -0010) from somewhere) >crew: Andrew Rix-bs, Adrian Rix-kbs, Judi Griggs-vcls, Karl Dawson-gtr, >Paul Holden-gtr, Sean Holden-dms So judging by the line-up, UZ are friends rather than relations. >hope it's some help Thanks! >andrew w Chuck `[1;37;41mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From swann at MINDVOX.COM Tue Sep 3 15:22:50 1996 From: swann at MINDVOX.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 15:22:50 -0400 Subject: New arrival In-Reply-To: <960827163354_188940911@emout19.mail.aol.com> from "Rocker22@AOL.COM" at Aug 27, 96 04:34:21 pm Message-ID: Rocker22 at AOL.COM writes: > > > Uhhh... > > So... what are the answers?? > Well, I think I have a few... > R.> In a message dated 96-08-27 15:07:31 EDT, you write: > > << Well, the following questions would be a clearer indication of a newbie > round here: > > 1. So what's the latest BOC album? _My Life Behind the Rose_ (in collaboration with Brian Eno). It's a little more ambient than the BOC that you're used to, but I think you'll agree that they've grown musically. *Mucho* use of native rythms and chants, etc, mixed with some almost Phillip Glass style dischord. I think they're breaking new ground musically - it will be interesting to see whether the next album will continue to develop along the same lines, or if they'll fall back into their old comfortable "heavy metal" mode. > 2. How come the Bouchard's aren't in BOC anymore, and when are they going > to rejoin the band? Al, his diplomatic career no longer "on hold" because of his commitment to the band, is currently the acting U.S. emabassador to New Guinnea. Joe was last seen in New Orleans, at the head of one of the more popular "Cajun Jazz" bands. > 3. When did Buck Dharma shave off his moustache? Well, he didn't, really. This isn't common knowledge, but he was in a bad automobile accident a couple of years ago (his hands weren't injured, thank god). Unfortunately, there was a delay in getting him to the hospital, and surgeons couldn't save the 'stache. He owns a very convincing prosthetic one, but rumours are that he's embarrassed to wear it. > 4. Does the BOC drummer still play with a Godzilla mask? No, Al retained possession of the mask. He now wears it in his embassadorial role, while attending the yearly "festival of the masks". > 5. Are there any BOC compilations available on CD? There was supposed to be one coming out on K-Tel, entitled _Scrunches, Crunches, and Thumps_, but rumour has it that this one is held up in production, as no one can find the master tapes of the dance mix of "Debbie Denise". Also, Steve Scank (sp?) is supposedly trying to coordinate it with the release of the _My Life Behind the Rose_ Interactive CD-ROM, which is delaying both projects. > 6. Do they still use lasers? Not since the infamous incident (in '76, I think?) at the Red Rocks Amphitheatre. You know, where they burned the ear off of a fan in the 3rd row? You know, if we lived in a less litigious country, things like this wouldn't be such a problem... Hope this helps. Steve swann at panix.com From Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM Tue Sep 3 14:59:59 1996 From: Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 13:59:59 -0500 Subject: EMI Space Ritual Original Release News Message-ID: Hi all, After reading the recent messages regarding the Space Ritual inner sleeves (and lack of them), I checked with EMI on this. I found out that if the inner sleeves were missing, it was a case of someone changing them as the original release was released with them as standard, and not as a limited run. That's not to say that some may have been shipped out from the manufacturing plant without them (due to the printers not keeping up with demand, for example), but even then, they should not have gone out and someone swapped regular inner sleeves for the color sleeves in the factory. Yours, Star_Rats From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Tue Sep 3 15:26:49 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 15:26:49 -0400 Subject: OFF: Tangerine Dream Message-ID: ---------- From: Ed Gallagher[SMTP:egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 1996 10:58 AM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: OFF: Tangerine Dream I was running through some old messages that I hadn't gotten to and came across this post that brought up some old memories. > Tangerine Dream have taken 20 minute beer breaks while leaving the > 'puters running at shows I've attended. I'm certain that some avant > garde composer will already have done the above. > > FoFP > Does anyone have some info on TD's current status, web page, list serv, concert dates (US), or anything else? Thanks! Yo Ed! Being a long-time fan of TD (up until about 1990, I was rabid about them. Now it has cooled dramatically) I can give you the scoop... TD is due to release a new album this month, titled something like "Goblins' Club". I am assuming the label is their own (can't for the like of me think of the real name; something like "Tadream") and is due for a US release. The last two releases were a two CD-set of the Dream Remixes (import to the US, but widely available at Camelot, at least...) and the soundtrack to "Zoning", which is _NOT_ the soundtrack from the movie of the same name, but a re-recording of the music from it, circa 1996. There is a rumored tour, maybe later this year, early next. Sounds to be highly limited in scope. There are a number of un-official Web pages, with the "official" one due to go on-line around the time of the new release. Don't know the www for it (can you say www.yahoo.com ?) There is a mailing list. Send e-mail to majordomo at cs.uwp.edu with the message "subscribe tadream" or "subscribe tadream-digest" your choice. ObjCDPlayer: Steve Hillman / Riding The Storm (as good or better than Matrix!) Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com -- "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein Edward Gallagher Internet egallagh at harper.cc.il.us Advanced Technology Specialist William Rainey Harper College Information Systems/User Service Pager (708) 962-4886 1200 W. Algonquin Rd. FAX (847) 925-6036 Palatine, IL 60067 Old Fashion Way (847) 925-6134 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I just had to learn MS-Access for work, and I was already thinking in terms of a cross-referencing utility for the Hawkwind Discography/Codex. You know, enter a keyword, click "search", and get back a list of all songs that contain that word, along with what albums/compilations you can find them on, etc... Huge amount of work, of course - not the least of which would be finding a way to "automatically" import all that frigging data. (Of course, the best solution might be to find a lacke^H^H^H^H helpful assistant to enter it all by hand.) :-) Steve swann at panix.com From egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US Tue Sep 3 16:54:22 1996 From: egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US (Ed Gallagher) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 15:54:22 -0500 Subject: OFF: List servers-how to start In-Reply-To: <19960903192250.23810.qmail@mindvox.com> from "Stephen Swann" at Sep 3, 96 03:22:50 pm Message-ID: I have a faculty member here that is interested in starting a list service. Can anyone point me where to look? Thanks in advance. -- "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein Edward Gallagher Internet egallagh at harper.cc.il.us Advanced Technology Specialist William Rainey Harper College Information Systems/User Service Pager (708) 962-4886 1200 W. Algonquin Rd. FAX (847) 925-6036 Palatine, IL 60067 Old Fashion Way (847) 925-6134 From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Tue Sep 3 17:07:57 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 17:07:57 -0400 Subject: HW : Thanks Star-rats. In-Reply-To: <19960903203447.26992.qmail@mindvox.com> Message-ID: Steve writes: > > Just as a note, I am working on a searchable database of the Hawkwind > > catalogue for the site (although it will take a while). I would like to ask > > the subscribers to this list what they would like to see in a database of > > this type. I have my own outline for this but would like to hear some other > > views so that I can get it as close to being right first time round. > > Funny. I just had to learn MS-Access for work, and I was already > thinking in terms of a cross-referencing utility for the Hawkwind > Discography/Codex. You know, enter a keyword, click "search", > and get back a list of all songs that contain that word, along > with what albums/compilations you can find them on, etc... > > Huge amount of work, of course - not the least of which would be > finding a way to "automatically" import all that frigging data. (Of > course, the best solution might be to find a lacke^H^H^H^H helpful > assistant to enter it all by hand.) :-) Tsk, tsk. Was nobody paying attention when I mentioned this during the summer? To recap briefly, I said: a) I was toying with doing all this myself; just a matter of finding the time. (Alas, unlike Mr. Star Rats, I don't get paid to make flashy Hawkwind WWW sites.;) b) I already had a full-text retrieval system (SMART) indexing the Hawkwind song lyrics, so you could do vector queries against the song lyrics. All that was needed was to do a WWW forms-based interface to it. c) I'd written an AWK script that processed the Hawkwind codex and produced importable files (sans notes, alas) for a Hawkwind song database, from which could be produced both the Hawkwind Codex and the Hawkwind Discography (instead of maintaining two separate databases, as is done now). I may even still have the MS-Access file I created using it. d) Using the database in (c) as a basis, I was thinking of creating a more fleshed-out Hawkwind tracks database, and, using something like mSQL, making it WWW-accessible (a fairly easy task in itself). However, it would be neater to use an object-oriented database system, as the Hawkwind Codex lends itself nicely to an object-oriented approach. I dunno if this is more grandiose than Mr. Star Rats was after. Btw, if it helps any, I can make available a tar/zip file of all the Hawkwind song lyrics, one song per file. (Handy if you want to index the songs, or include them into WWW pages.) Cheers, Paul. obCD: John Mayall, _Blues From Laurel Canyon_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US Tue Sep 3 16:58:26 1996 From: egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US (Ed Gallagher) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 15:58:26 -0500 Subject: OFF: Tangerine Dream In-Reply-To: <01BB99AF.41176780@dynamic-13.async.pyramid.com> from "Craig A. Shipley" at Sep 3, 96 03:26:49 pm Message-ID: > release. Don't know the www for it (can you say www.yahoo.com ?) > > Craig Shipley > craigs at pyramid.com YAHOO! Thanks! -- "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein Edward Gallagher Internet egallagh at harper.cc.il.us Advanced Technology Specialist William Rainey Harper College Information Systems/User Service Pager (708) 962-4886 1200 W. Algonquin Rd. FAX (847) 925-6036 Palatine, IL 60067 Old Fashion Way (847) 925-6134 From Olivier_Boigey at TECHLINK.FR Tue Sep 3 18:53:33 1996 From: Olivier_Boigey at TECHLINK.FR (Olivier Boigey) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 22:53:33 GMT Subject: HW's circus Message-ID: According to an interview ( that I'm still trying to decode), of Dave Brock, recorded after the last french gig (18/08/96), Dave says that he is planning a huge tour for HW next year: with a circus (that means acrobats, trapeze..etc) and quadrophonic sound...but no new projects for this year... Olivier Via HOLY GALACTIC IMPERIUM ++ - sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered). From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Tue Sep 3 17:41:40 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 17:41:40 -0400 Subject: OFF: Tangerine Dream Message-ID: ---------- From: Ed Gallagher[SMTP:egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US] Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 1996 4:58 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: OFF: Tangerine Dream > release. Don't know the www for it (can you say www.yahoo.com ?) > > Craig Shipley > craigs at pyramid.com YAHOO! Thanks! I KNEW you could! See you there (I'm in lurk mode...) Craig -- "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein Edward Gallagher Internet egallagh at harper.cc.il.us Advanced Technology Specialist William Rainey Harper College Information Systems/User Service Pager (708) 962-4886 1200 W. Algonquin Rd. FAX (847) 925-6036 Palatine, IL 60067 Old Fashion Way (847) 925-6134 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1848 bytes Desc: not available URL: From aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU Tue Sep 3 22:08:15 1996 From: aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU (Duane Hoyt) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 22:08:15 -0400 Subject: HW:NYC show 95 - the dancing guy! Message-ID: > >Umm... When Hawkwind played at the Limelight show last year in New >York, there was this one guy having a jolly good time dancing a >dramatized type strange fairy-like dance up front, wiggling to and fro >and making strange gestures in the air as if he were somehow involved in >some sort of sign-language with invisible people. I remember he got so >into it people actually cleared a space for him. I stood up in the >rafters for awhile watching him, and for awhile I found him more >interesting to watch than Ron's antics onstage - if I remember correctly >he was a smallish bespectacled bearded fellow - anybody on this list >perhaps? Well, I'm sure he could get a job with Hawkwind's dancing >troupe on the next stateside tour. Or was I just hallucinating? > > Perhaps this was the famous Mike Psych? Anyone know if he was in N.Y.? Duane From TheQuail at CTHULHU.MICROSERVE.COM Tue Sep 3 22:57:10 1996 From: TheQuail at CTHULHU.MICROSERVE.COM (TheQuail at CTHULHU.MICROSERVE.COM) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 22:57:10 -0400 Subject: The dancing fool was I. . . . Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Christian Mumford wrote: > Umm... When Hawkwind played at the Limelight show last year in New > York, there was this one guy having a jolly good time dancing a > dramatized type strange fairy-like dance up front, wiggling to and fro > and making strange gestures in the air as if he were somehow involved in > some sort of sign-language with invisible people. I remember he got so > into it people actually cleared a space for him. I stood up in the > rafters for awhile watching him, and for awhile I found him more > interesting to watch than Ron's antics onstage - if I remember correctly > he was a smallish bespectacled bearded fellow - anybody on this list > perhaps? Well, I'm sure he could get a job with Hawkwind's dancing > troupe on the next stateside tour. Or was I just hallucinating? That was me. You were not hallucinating, but I assure you that I certainly was. I had an Elric jacket on . . . By the way, my name is Allen, and I have been a member of the List for about a year and a half, but I rarely post. Yours, The Great Quail PS - what do you mean "invisible people?" You mean to tell me that you didn't see the Zippleduck Mushroom Critters from the Planet Xenon-9? Jeez. ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail | TheQuail at cthulhu.microserve.com Keeper of the Libyrinth | Sarnath - The Quailspace Web Page: | http://www.microserve.net/~thequail riverrun Discordian Society | | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft From mumford at EUNET.NO Wed Sep 4 03:45:44 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:45:44 +0200 Subject: The dancing fool was I. . . . Message-ID: TheQuail at CTHULHU.MICROSERVE.COM wrote: > > PS - what do you mean "invisible people?" You mean to tell me that you > didn't see the Zippleduck Mushroom Critters from the Planet Xenon-9? Jeez. > My central nervous system was not tuned onto the right frequency at the time. Do you do the Macarena? From mumford at EUNET.NO Wed Sep 4 04:04:58 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:04:58 +0200 Subject: HW: HL/25 Years On Message-ID: I'm looking for this on CD - I saw it ages ago and didn't pick it up and have never seen it since (damn!)- if anybody comes across a copy, or have any info on it, I'd be most interested! Thanks in advance, Christian From p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU Wed Sep 4 04:01:45 1996 From: p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU (Peter Sondergeld) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 18:01:45 +1000 Subject: BRAIN: Fwd: NJ Record Message-ID: At 01:03 PM 3/9/96 -0400, Deb wrote: >Thought you might enjoy this, courtesy of Ritch Pee, >lawyer/journalist/database-searcher. > Showing >yet another angle of their rock sound, "Bad Habit" sounds >like the Doors' "Love Her Madly." The band also covers Robert Johnson's > "Stones In My Passageway" with a destinctive Led Zeppelin flair. Hmmm, I'm not sure I can hear the Doors comparison. Never mind. When I first heard "Bad Habit" I thought of an early AC/DC track (from the Bon Scott era, that is) called "It's a Long Way to the Top (if you wanna rock n roll)", sans bagpipes. The "BH" riff and chorus chords are reminiscent, but the similarity in guitar sound was the first to catch my ear. I later read in the liner notes that Angus Young gets a Thanks, and wondered if that was the AC/DC Angus Young, and whether or not he provided some input e.g. getting THAT guitar sound. Deb? Al? Anyone in the know? Pete. ObLyricParody:"It's a long way to the shop if you wanna sausage roll" ************************** Peter Sondergeld p.sondergeld at qut.edu.au "One new slave, the same old rock." - Roy Harper From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Sep 4 04:10:00 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:10:00 +0100 Subject: BRAIN: Fwd: NJ Record In-Reply-To: <199609040801.SAA18103@pigeon.qut.edu.au> from "Peter Sondergeld" at Sep 4, 96 06:01:45 pm Message-ID: > > Showing > >yet another angle of their rock sound, "Bad Habit" sounds > >like the Doors' "Love Her Madly." The band also covers Robert Johnson's > > "Stones In My Passageway" with a destinctive Led Zeppelin flair. > > > Hmmm, I'm not sure I can hear the Doors comparison. Never mind. And when I first got the record the thing that sounded like Zep to me was "Rambling Rose", not realising that is was in fact an MC5 cover! Still sounds zeppelinoid to me :) > ObLyricParody:"It's a long way to the shop if you wanna sausage roll" Or the Richard Thompson parody from the Mrs. Ackroyd Band: "Down Where the Sausage Roll" ... :) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of ASNAC Studies, Cambridge U. * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Wed Sep 4 04:33:12 1996 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (Mike Wright) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:33:12 +0100 Subject: HW RUMOR GOOD NEWS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Jon Browne wrote: > > ***** ***** > *** > * * > * * > *********** Oh no it is the return of the phantom banana, the banana that ate the aubergine that ate the rangoon that ate the cheshire cat. Mike w From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Wed Sep 4 09:46:10 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 13:46:10 UT Subject: OFF: Deniz Tek Message-ID: Theo Deniz Tek's _Orphan Tracks_ is a bunch of tracks from various projects before and after Radio Birdman - there's some crap on there (the Velvets and Chuck Berry covers by his USAF band are pretty dodgy) but some good stuff too. Revenge Records (France) MIG 13. ObBOC: "Went out in the desert night/To the Four Winds Bar & Grill" from "Last Chance", by Tek with Angie Pepper. - Andy From mumford at EUNET.NO Wed Sep 4 10:03:30 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 16:03:30 +0200 Subject: OFF:Born to be Wild Message-ID: Don't remember who was making a list of covers of this song, but I did stuble across an instrumental version (what else!) by The Ventures on a compilation of theirs! Christian From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Wed Sep 4 09:05:03 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 00:05:03 +1100 Subject: HW: (Fwd) Calvert NEWS Message-ID: ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 21:33:13 +0200 To: "Assassin Sonique" From: videofest at mediopolis.de (VideoFest Berlin) Subject: Calvert NEWS Hi Paul, I just put together a new page for the Calvert site: NEWS - which informs you about all new pages and updates on the Calvert site - http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/calnews.htm hope that's useful to you - it also got some nice extras to it...go and find out... Could you let me know how I can post such a message to the BOC/HW discussion group? very best, Knut VideoFest Mediopolis Berlin e.V. Potsdamer Strasse 96 D-10785 Berlin Phone *49 30 262 87 14 Fax *49 30 262 87 13 videofest at mediopolis.de http://www.mediopolis.de/videofest/ -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Sep 4 10:57:42 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:57:42 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Fwd: NJ Record Message-ID: >When I first heard "Bad Habit" I thought of an early AC/DC track (from the Bon Scott era, that is) called "It's a Long Way to the Top (if you wanna rock n roll)" Yes! Me too! But, then the bass and drums kick in with a much more swing-like beat and no bagpipes are to be found . . . "Bad Habit" is a cool little rocker that might go over well live if the crowd is in a dancing mood (memories of the last Mamakin gig come to mind...). John From gary at METALITHIC.COM Wed Sep 4 11:14:00 1996 From: gary at METALITHIC.COM (Gary Wingert) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 08:14:00 -0700 Subject: HW: Covers tapes? Message-ID: After a 3-month hiatus, I'm stealthily (lurkily?) back at a new locale.. Anything ever happen with the HW covers tapes? Last I heard, we were up to 3, threatening to go into 4, waiting for some add'l tracks and mayhaps labels.. If they're done, who do I contact for a set? Thanks! gary -- Gary Wingert gary at metalithic.com Metalithic Systems, Inc. http://www.metalithic.com +1.415.332.2690 VOX +1.415.332.6735 FAX From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Sep 4 11:40:51 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 11:40:51 -0400 Subject: New arrival Message-ID: Nice bit of research, Steve. Just a few comments... Regarding Buck's 'stache - >He owns a very convincing prosthetic one, but rumours are that he's embarrassed to wear it. Actually, he uses it as a capo during "(Don't Fear) The Reaper" Regarding compilations - >There was supposed to be one coming out on K-Tel, entitled _Scrunches, Crunches, and Thumps_, but rumour has it that this one is held up in production, as no one can find the master tapes of the dance mix of "Debbie Denise". Rumor has it that Bolle has a copy of this mix, but he won't say for sure - I suspect K-Tel may scrap that project in favor of another compilation. Rumor has it one of the execs there has been working to get a CD released with tracks from his 3 favorite BOC albums - *Mirrors*, *Revolution By Night*, and *Club Ninja*. Due to legal issues with Sony, however, the band may undertake this project themselves by re-recording the tracks for a *Cult Classics Too* CD. Regarding BOC's latest - >_My Life Behind the Rose_ (in collaboration with Brian Eno) Unfortunately, due to poor album sales, this album now can usually only be found in the cut-out bins. The real problem with the sales wasn't due to the music on the disc (although reaction from BOC fans was mixed at best), but due to the disc's packaging. The cover shot was supposed to show the BOC logo behind a large red rose in a garden engulfed in flames. However, to save production costs, the designers tried to superimpose an image of a rose on the cover design for the *On Flame With Rock And Roll* compilation album -- due to a botched job (rumor has it that the same folks who did the *Workshop of the Telescopes* artwork worked on this project), however, the rose is all but invisible, meaning the finished product bore such a striking resemblance to the *On Flame With Rock and Roll* album (a staple in most record store cutout bins) that most fans (and record store owners) could hardly tell the difference. I've also heard (but can't confirm) that BOC lyricist John Shirley may have been involved in sabotaging the project as none of his lyrics were used. If they go back to their heavier sound, they might try some of the lyrics, which include poems entitled, "Mosquito's Kiss", "The Horsemen Leave", and "I'd Like to See You in Green". John From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 4 17:51:46 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 17:51:46 BST Subject: Rock Legends In-Reply-To: Christian Mumford's message of Tue, 3 Sep 1996 14:59:31 +0200 Message-ID: Christian Mumford writes: > I had a one of those sleazy 4CD compilation sets called "Rock Legends" > which had some Hawkwind and Blue Oyster Cult live material on it. I > think the Hawkwind material was Space Chase (from Levitation), > Brainstorm (from Live '79, I think), and maybe Earth Calling and a few > other ones. The BOC stuff was a very cool live version of Born to Be > Wild, which rocks so hard it sounds like everything starts crashing > apart towards the end, and a live version of Don't Fear The Reaper. It > also had some worthy Motorhead material on it. Does anybody know > excactly the source of these recordings? Not the kind of thing I usually > go for, but I was broke as hell and needed a quick fix of cheap 70's > rock..... > I don't think this compilation ever made it into the Codex simply because I wasn't prepared to buy 4CDs just to get 4-ish Hawkwind tracks that already existed on albums (ooops - my Kollektors persona is clearly showing signs of wear...). I strongly suspect that the Hawkwind tracks are all from their original albums but if anyone has the compilation and would like to give the appropriate tracks a quick run through to check this then we could update the Codex accordingly! Dunno where the BOC items come from though. thanx I'll try and get round to Love In Space and add that as well. Shouldn't take long... jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Wed Sep 4 17:54:27 1996 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 17:54:27 BST Subject: New arrival In-Reply-To: John A Swartz's message of Wed, 4 Sep 1996 11:40:51 -0400 Message-ID: > they might try some of the lyrics, which include poems > entitled, "Mosquito's Kiss", "The Horsemen Leave", and "I'd Like to > See You in Green". On the HW side, Bob Calvert actually recorded songs titled "The Greenfly And The Rose" and "Lord Of The Hornets"! They're good, too. Dave. From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 4 17:58:27 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 17:58:27 BST Subject: HW RUMOR GOOD NEWS In-Reply-To: Bill Stewart's message of Mon, 2 Sep 1996 17:27:57 -0400 Message-ID: Bill Stewart writes: > Hi all, > Mary Bruce left a message on my answering machine today at 1PM. > She had just got off the phone with Alan Davey. He stated to her that he has > been practising with the band all weekend, before he spoke to her he was > talking to both Richard and Dave....all the rumors were well - thank goodness for that! so can anyone confirm if the gig on Saturday 2nd November at the Pavilion, North Parade, Bath is still happening? There was a flyer about it at the Summer Daze venue but I've heard nothing since! cheers jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From swann at MINDVOX.COM Wed Sep 4 14:53:25 1996 From: swann at MINDVOX.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 14:53:25 -0400 Subject: HW: Calvert - where to go from here? Message-ID: It appears that I've at long last "discovered" Bob Calvert... I finally bought "Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters", and it's been in my CD player constantly for the past 2 weeks. I particularly like such lesser known pieces as "Hero With A Wing" (my favorite song on the album), and "Catch a Falling Starfighter". I also like his more thoughtful/introspective versions of the "rock" numbers that Hawkwind often covers. So, with that in mind... what to get next? _Lucky Leif and the Longships_ seems like the obvious choice - is it comparable stylistically? And knowing that this is always a loaded question on BOC-L... is it as good? :-) Also, what kind of material is on Freq (aren't there 2 versions of this)? And is _Tales from the Atomhenge_ worth getting? Thanks for any info. Steve swann at panix.com From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Sep 4 15:08:23 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:08:23 +0100 Subject: HW: Calvert - where to go from here? In-Reply-To: <19960904185325.17179.qmail@mindvox.com> from "Stephen Swann" at Sep 4, 96 02:53:25 pm Message-ID: > So, with that in mind... what to get next? _Lucky Leif and the > Longships_ seems like the obvious choice - is it comparable > stylistically? And knowing that this is always a loaded question on > BOC-L... is it as good? :-) Nothing, but _nothing_, can ever, ever top "Surf Raiders" (or whatever its called. "I guess you could call us barbarians ... Barbarians! Barb-barb, barbarians! Barbarians! Barb-barb, barbarians!" [insert appropriate Beach Boys feel :) ] Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************* Carl Edlund Anderson "So that's Terra. Oohwee, cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk look out wenchlings, here http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html come the Hawklords." cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk -Lord Lemmy (Hawkwind) ************************************************************************* From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Sep 4 05:05:41 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:05:41 +0100 Subject: OFF : Mournblade In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Andrew Gilham writes >Shame the production's so lousy, really - they were a lot of fun! Much like >early Mournblade... > >- Andy I dusted off my copy of "Time's Running Out" (Hello, Can You Hear Me?) just recently. In fact, I was playing it to a mate just this Sunday. I posted some recollections of Mournblade gigs at alt.books.moorcock about six months ago. I know we've been going to the same gigs for about 18 years without meeting, Andy, but you never saw Mournblade, did you? I saw 'em 8-10 times, best show was Oxford New Age Fayre ('84? '85?) Whatever happened to Duncan Mullett and his sodding great Astral Rune- Dagger! Here it comes, heat-seeking, SideWinder! SideWinder! And the crowd, all 8 of us, went crazy! -- Jon Browne From cipriano at COURANT.INFI.NET Wed Sep 4 18:58:48 1996 From: cipriano at COURANT.INFI.NET (Laura or Paul Cipriano) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 22:58:48 +0000 Subject: HW: (Fwd) Calvert NEWS Message-ID: Assassin Sonique wrote: > > ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- > Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 21:33:13 +0200 > To: "Assassin Sonique" > From: videofest at mediopolis.de (VideoFest Berlin) > Subject: Calvert NEWS > > Hi Paul, > > I just put together a new page for the Calvert site: NEWS - which informs > you about all new pages and updates on the Calvert site - > http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/calnews.htm > > hope that's useful to you - it also got some nice extras to it...go and > find out... > > Could you let me know how I can post such a message to the BOC/HW discussion > group? > > very best, > Knut > VideoFest > Mediopolis Berlin e.V. > Potsdamer Strasse 96 > D-10785 Berlin > Phone *49 30 262 87 14 > Fax *49 30 262 87 13 > videofest at mediopolis.de > http://www.mediopolis.de/videofest/ > > -- > Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long > R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may > mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they > http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! Hello Thanks for the note. I went to check out both sites but could not connect. Both servers are down? I will try and connect again tomorrow. Nice Graphic of Hawkwind! Paul From southend at SERV.NET Thu Sep 5 00:11:06 1996 From: southend at SERV.NET (Steve Burton) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 21:11:06 -0700 Subject: the bass ritual Message-ID: At 01:54 PM 9/2/96 -0500, you wrote: >On 31-AUG-1996 07:43:44.0 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 > >> this i heard directly from him on tour. > >> alan bought doremi,and gave it a spin.he was dazzled by the bass > >lines i n one of the > >> tunes > >> he rushed down to his local music store(instruments),with a > >recording of the song, > >> and to the proprietor excitedly asked "what's that instrument there?" > >> the guy told him it was called a bass guitar,and that was when alan > >decided to play > >> bass. > >My guess for the track in question is probably "Time We Left". > >I'll guess it was "Lord Of Light". Yeah! LOL captivated me as a youngster too! I was so proud when I'd learnt the bass line! >And what about the SR2 version of Time We Left, don't you think that gives >Doremi's a run for the money? Yeah! I love the "call and response" thing that Lemmy & Dave do at the end with their instruments! I'm glad someone besides me noticed that one too! It just blew me away the first time I heard it. Not probably the most technical move they ever made - but WOW! > >Chuck >`[1;34;43mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive > > Steve From swann at MINDVOX.COM Wed Sep 4 14:53:25 1996 From: swann at MINDVOX.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 14:53:25 -0400 Subject: HW: Calvert - where to go from here? Message-ID: It appears that I've at long last "discovered" Bob Calvert... I finally bought "Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters", and it's been in my CD player constantly for the past 2 weeks. I particularly like such lesser known pieces as "Hero With A Wing" (my favorite song on the album), and "Catch a Falling Starfighter". I also like his more thoughtful/introspective versions of the "rock" numbers that Hawkwind often covers. So, with that in mind... what to get next? _Lucky Leif and the Longships_ seems like the obvious choice - is it comparable stylistically? And knowing that this is always a loaded question on BOC-L... is it as good? :-) Also, what kind of material is on Freq (aren't there 2 versions of this)? And is _Tales from the Atomhenge_ worth getting? Thanks for any info. Steve swann at panix.com From mordru at MAGG.NET Thu Sep 5 00:44:42 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 00:44:42 -0400 Subject: .mid i files Message-ID: Anyone know of a source for BOC or Hawkwind .midi files? =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU Thu Sep 5 04:13:23 1996 From: p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU (Peter Sondergeld) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:13:23 +1000 Subject: OFF: Ob Message-ID: It seems that our use of Ob notes on boc-l is round the wrong way, at least as I understand it. I was looking over an Internet dictionary and stumbled onto the entry for Ob which says: Ob- A prefix for an obligatory addendum to an off-topic Usenet or list post. Say you get into a political debate in the rec.music.dylan newsgroup. To keep your post technically relevant to the group, you might add: ObDylan: Ah, but I was so much older then/I'm younger than that now. See also Obligatory * content. "Obligatory * content" says pretty much the same thing. The * is meant to be replaced with the subject of the group. So, there you go. And no, I'm not suggesting we all change our ways on this. :) Pete. ObLP:"Bad Luck Streak in Dancing School" - Warren Zevon ************************** Peter Sondergeld p.sondergeld at qut.edu.au "And sometimes I say things I shouldn't, Like..." - Warren Zevon From mumford at EUNET.NO Thu Sep 5 05:12:20 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 11:12:20 +0200 Subject: HW: Calvert - where to go from here? Message-ID: Stephen Swann wrote: > > It appears that I've at long last "discovered" Bob Calvert... > > I finally bought "Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters", and it's > been in my CD player constantly for the past 2 weeks. I particularly > like such lesser known pieces as "Hero With A Wing" (my favorite song > on the album), and "Catch a Falling Starfighter". I also like his > more thoughtful/introspective versions of the "rock" numbers that > Hawkwind often covers. > > So, with that in mind... what to get next? _Lucky Leif and the > Longships_ seems like the obvious choice - is it comparable > stylistically? And knowing that this is always a loaded question on > BOC-L... is it as good? :-) It's kinda different, really. Brian Eno produced it and it sounds that way. It's not as 'heavy' as Lockheed is in places. There's even some kool surf-music on it! But, it's a good album, and it doesen't have all the talking bits (which, at least I find somewhat embarrasing & skip). Moorcock plays banjo on it if I remember right, and there's some odd psychedelic chanting-pieces inbetween songs here and there. Christian From mumford at EUNET.NO Thu Sep 5 05:44:15 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 11:44:15 +0200 Subject: Rock Legends Message-ID: J Strobridge wrote: > > Christian Mumford writes: > > > I had a one of those sleazy 4CD compilation sets called "Rock Legends" > > which had some Hawkwind and Blue Oyster Cult live material on it. I > > think the Hawkwind material was Space Chase (from Levitation), > > Brainstorm (from Live '79, I think), and maybe Earth Calling and a few > > other ones. The BOC stuff was a very cool live version of Born to Be > > Wild, which rocks so hard it sounds like everything starts crashing > > apart towards the end, and a live version of Don't Fear The Reaper. It > > also had some worthy Motorhead material on it. Does anybody know > > excactly the source of these recordings? > > I don't think this compilation ever made it into the Codex simply because > I wasn't prepared to buy 4CDs just to get 4-ish Hawkwind tracks that > already existed on albums (ooops - my Kollektors persona is clearly > showing signs of wear...). I strongly suspect that the Hawkwind tracks > are all from their original albums but if anyone has the compilation and > would like to give the appropriate tracks a quick run through to check > this then we could update the Codex accordingly! The only studio version was 'Space Chase', and I'm pretty sure 'Brainstorm' was off Live '79. As for the others, I believe they were live 'Earth Calling' (I have this version on a HW compilation somewhere), and maybe live 'Ghost Dance' (I think the same as on HW/British Tribal Music) and I'm not sure, the live 'Space is Deep'. I simply bought this second hand very cheap, taped the stuff I liked off it, and traded it off a week later for a used _real_ CD somewhere.... But, both 'Rock Legends' and 'Metal Masters' (which also has some HW tracks listed) are availible from Blackmail at low prices.... like ? 15-20 per 4 CD set. Check the latest Record Collector for their address.... Christian > > Dunno where the BOC items come from though. From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Thu Sep 5 07:41:19 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 22:41:19 +1100 Subject: HW: Original SR release/8-Track Message-ID: On 31 Aug 96 at 6:49, Johan Edlundh wrote: > don't think so - I've owned three copies of the poster sleeve Space Ritual > thru the years - but only one had the psychedelic red/yellow inner sleeve. > The other two has a plain white inner sleeve (one of these now is happy in a > Melbourne suburb kollektion) And very happy indeed it is ..... but now I realise that I now need a fourth copy of _SR_ for the Kollection ... > back cover says it was "also released as a 8-Track Cartridge" :0) Make that five ;^) Sonique -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Thu Sep 5 13:28:59 1996 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (Mike Wright) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:28:59 +0100 Subject: HW: was OFF: Delerium Records Message-ID: Ages ago (Aug 5) Martyn Lawrence martynl at FUJITSU.COM.AU pointed us in the direction of the delerium web page, and I have got around to reading it, it inhabits cyberspace at co-ordinates http://www.delerium.co.uk and I have read the article about Amon Duul II, and there are 2 Hawkwind related bits which I extract for our interest Mike w ------------begin extracts----------- From: Amon Dl II - Yeti Talks to Yogi By Andy Whittaker. That was the end of Amon Duul II until the 1989 gigs, although the name was kept alive by the British 'Amon Duul' LP's, of which more will be said later. In 1986 posters for the Hawkwind tour promised 'special guests Amon Duul III', but this was no more than a whim of the promoter, and no such band appeared. Chris had never heard anything about it! FB:- You then made the LP's with Dave Anderson (the Demi-Monde releases). JW:- Hmmm. Hawk Meets Penguin was actually based on old Amon Dl II tapes. We improvised around them. Yes, I thought it was OK to do that, but no other original Amon Duul members play on the Demi - Monde records. FB:- It's a very good album. JW:- Yes it is. I'm not keen on Men Machines though, and those other two LP's shouldn't have been released, they aren't even finished. Hawk consists of two fairly laid back improvisations, and shouldn't disappoint anyone into the Amon Duul vibe. Men Machines is a more conventional record, although John turns in a thundering "Burundi Drummers' Nightmare". The release of Die Lsung and Fool Moon, has caused a massive row between Dave and John. Dave declares them to be finished products, but the conflict is likely to keep him out of any forthcoming Amon Dl II activity, unfortunately. JW:- We were going to record Bob Calvert and Chris together. You should have seen those two in the studio - real freaks. I don't mean that in any stupid way - It was magical. Bob shouldn't have died, he was one of the brothers. So I was going to play at his memorial concert. I had it planned, to be carried on to the stage by a couple of girls waving peace signs; "Hello my friends, good to see you all again". I was working on the show, but talk got around to doing an Amon Duul gig. I didn't think it would work, so I planned my show, but Chris, Renate, and Peter amazed me by being there. So with some friends we did "Archangels Thunderbird", "Eye - Shaking King", "Metropolis" and "Flower Of The Orient". After that we did the Italian gig with Lothar and Falk. On the way the old Amon Dl tensions started to appear, but that's part of the dynamic of the group, we argue a lot. From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Thu Sep 5 14:49:27 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Le Monsieur) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 13:49:27 -0500 Subject: test Message-ID: Sorry guys, but I haven't received anything in over a day, and there's plenny to talk about. Damon From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Thu Sep 5 08:39:46 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:39:46 +1100 Subject: Moorcock reading tape (OFF, i suppose) Message-ID: dave cohen wrote: > so email me if you're interested and don't worry if > you've none of the stuff listed above as i'm pretty > open about trades etc... > > dave > lapis at pobox.upenn.edu Hi, I'd be VERY interested in getting a copy of this tape, but I don't have any rare Moorcock stuff to trade, though I've got New Worlds Fair on CD, as well as most of the other stuff that was released on single, and a couple of things that he reads a Hawkwind concerts. If you're interested in anything just drop me a note. I've got quite a lot of Pink Floyd rare material if you like that kind of thing, though. If not, I could just post you a money order, as I'd love to hear this tape. Thanks muchly... - Max Wilcox From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Thu Sep 5 23:49:09 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 05:49:09 +0200 Subject: HW: Calvert - where to go from here? Message-ID: At 14:53 1996-09-04 -0400, you wrote: >It appears that I've at long last "discovered" Bob Calvert... > >I finally bought "Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters", and it's >been in my CD player constantly for the past 2 weeks. I particularly >like such lesser known pieces as "Hero With A Wing" (my favorite song >on the album), and "Catch a Falling Starfighter". I also like his >more thoughtful/introspective versions of the "rock" numbers that >Hawkwind often covers. > >So, with that in mind... what to get next? _Lucky Leif and the >Longships_ seems like the obvious choice - is it comparable >stylistically? And knowing that this is always a loaded question on >BOC-L... is it as good? :-) it's not as heavy as the C:n Lockheed, but without compare the second best Calvert effort. another decent album is the _Live at Queen Elizabeth Hall_ with catches Calvert in a *very* good mood - you've got 'Aerospaceage Inferno' on this one. >Also, what kind of material is on Freq (aren't there 2 versions of >this)? And is _Tales from the Atomhenge_ worth getting? in this stage of Calvert Exploring I think you can wait with _Freq_ and _Test Tube Conceived_ which I may describe as 'computer pop' when I'm in *bad* mood. _Atom Henge_ is a compilation that covers the Charisma Years with a few Charisma 7" outtakes (two instrumentals and the rocker "Back on the Streets"). Get it if you don't have ASAM, QS&C, 25Yrs On and/or PXR5 - get it anyway if you're a rich man. >Thanks for any info. > >Steve >swann at panix.com \\joe From mumford at EUNET.NO Fri Sep 6 09:27:54 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 15:27:54 +0200 Subject: TEST Message-ID: IS THIS LIST STILL UP AND RUNNING? Just wondering...... Christian From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Fri Sep 6 09:23:03 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:23:03 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: November gig scheduled Message-ID: Deb recently informed me that the Brain Surgeons have a gig scheduled for November 23rd (a Saturday) in New York City at a place called the Rodeo Bar (Deb says "it's a fun place, great food from the Tex-Mex restaurant next door") John From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Fri Sep 6 14:02:48 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 13:02:48 EST Subject: T&M vinyl Message-ID: Just picked up a mint copy of T&M on vinyl with the picture sleeve intact and also perfect for 2 bucks! Wow! Made my weekend for sure... theo From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Fri Sep 6 14:07:58 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 13:07:58 EST Subject: off:alphabet soup Message-ID: Calling classical language scholars: Which came first, the letter "V" or "U"? When did they cease to be interchangeable, as in the Roman-looking characters on T&M where the letter U is depicted as a V? I've seen this all over a bunch of ancient books I've been handling lately, and would like the low down. thanks theo From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 6 18:41:11 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 18:41:11 BST Subject: HW: Calvert - where to go from here? In-Reply-To: Stephen Swann's message of Wed, 4 Sep 1996 14:53:25 -0400 Message-ID: Are things really this quiet? No mail for a whole day! Stephen Swann writes: > It appears that I've at long last "discovered" Bob Calvert... > > I finally bought "Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters", and it's > been in my CD player constantly for the past 2 weeks. I particularly > like such lesser known pieces as "Hero With A Wing" (my favorite song > on the album), and "Catch a Falling Starfighter". I also like his > more thoughtful/introspective versions of the "rock" numbers that > Hawkwind often covers. > > So, with that in mind... what to get next? _Lucky Leif and the > Longships_ seems like the obvious choice - is it comparable > stylistically? And knowing that this is always a loaded question on > BOC-L... is it as good? :-) > > Also, what kind of material is on Freq (aren't there 2 versions of > this)? And is _Tales from the Atomhenge_ worth getting? > Calvert is difficult. Very individual, very idiosyncratic, very clever. In that he's a performer rather than a straightforward musician his solo work has a sameness of technique that comes across in everything he produces - however the musical style varies enormously from the reggae of Cricket Star to the oddities of Test Tube Conceived. Lucky Leif is a concept album in the same way that Captain Lockheed is but his intention in this album seems to be to produce each song in a totally different musical style, quite deliberately, which makes for interesting if not always coherent listening. Freq is a social protest concept album incorporating media quotes and songs about working class existence - musically I don't remember it as being anything special but it's uniquely Calvert. Test Tube Conceived is wierd and Hype goes along with a book of the same name which is songs based around the life of a writer struggling to retain his individuality and independence. Highly entertaining if somewhat exaggerated book! Blueprints from the Cellar is Calvert performing his own songs and The Kid From Silicon Gulch is a stage show about a private detective and a computer in the crime solving business. I love this - it's truly entertaining and I really hope someone gets a chance to put it back on a stage one day. Tales from Atomhenge is just the Charisma years 'Spirit of the Age' Hawkwind compilation with some different single tracks added. tracklist below: 1992 Tales From Atom Henge CD (Virgin) (Spirit of the Age re-issue + different tracks) Honky Dorky (Brock/Calvert/House/King/Powell/Rudolph/Mandelkau) Flying Doctor (Calvert/Brock) Steppenwolf (Brock/Calvert) Hassan I Sabha (Calvert/Rudolph) 25 Years (Brock) Jack of Shadows (Calvert/Shaw/House) PSI Power (Brock/Calvert) Reefer Madness (Brock/Calvert) Fable of a Failed Race (Brock/Calvert) High Rise (Calvert/House) Quark, Strangeness, and Charm (Brock/Calvert) Back on the Streets (Calvert/Rudolph) The Dream of Isis (Brock/King/House) Kerb Crawler (Brock/Calvert) Only the Dead Dreams of the Cold War Kid (Calvert) Spirit of the Age (Brock/Calvert) cheers jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Sep 6 13:25:22 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 18:25:22 +0100 Subject: Test In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Wh'appen? -- Jon Browne From gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU Fri Sep 6 14:35:00 1996 From: gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU (Guido Vacano) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:35:00 -0400 Subject: Why no posts in two days? Message-ID: Is there anybody out there? Guido -- If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Fri Sep 6 15:58:10 1996 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 15:58:10 -0400 Subject: Title of New Brain Surgeons Album Message-ID: Subj: Re:BRAIN SURGEONS Date: 96-09-05 05:14:57 EDT From: TUBULAR 1 Yes, just what the Doctors ordered.... A Box of Hammers! (A Hammer in Swedish is a Hard-On!) Can't go wrong with such fine words!!! :-) BOLLE_!_? From delacour at UNM.EDU Fri Sep 6 18:57:56 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 16:57:56 -0600 Subject: T&M vinyl In-Reply-To: <25ABDCF4EDB@hawk.syr.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, Ted Jackson jr. EL 84 wrote: > Just picked up a mint copy of T&M on vinyl with the picture sleeve > intact and also perfect for 2 bucks! Wow! Made my weekend for > sure... > theo > Theo; Sounds great!!! You know what would make my weekend? Getting the Worcester '82 tape!!! Perhaps I'll have to go all the way up to NY and make you listen to Club Ninja ALL WEEKEND LONG until you finally dub that show for me!!! Later... Manuel & Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Fri Sep 6 19:02:55 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Le Monsieur) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 18:02:55 -0500 Subject: off:alphabet soup In-Reply-To: <25AD3CD5C1B@hawk.syr.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, Ted Jackson jr. EL 84 wrote: > Which came first, the letter "V" or "U"? "V", which represented today's U,V,and W was pronounced in Latin as a "W" when a consonant and as a "U" when a vowel, much in the same way "Y" can be either a consonant or a vowel. (Note that the letters "U" and "W" were absent from the ancient Latin alphabet. E.g., the word vacuum was originally written "vacvvm" and pronounced "WAH koo um", and the immortalized phrase "Veni, Vidi, Vici" was NOT pronounced "Venny, Viddy, Vichy", but rather "Wenny, Weedy, Weeky". Yes, the Latin "C" was always hard, even preceding "e" and "i", since the letter "K", later borrowed from the Greek letter kappa (you figure) was also not a part of the ancient Latin alphabet (with the exception of two words: "kalendar" and one other). [ Of course, the word "kalendar" was borrowed from the Greeks because the Latin calendar system itself was merely a variation of the Greek calendar, which in turn was ripped off from the ancient Middle East (the Assyrians?).] Also of note is the absence of the letters "J" and "Y". In Latin, the letter "I" took the place of what we now know as "Y" in that "I" could be either a consonant or a vowel. Hence the word "iacio", meaning "to throw", "to toss" or "to shoot forth" (and from which evolves such colorful English words as "ejaculate" and our favorite: "ejection"), is usually written "jacio" in high school Latin textbooks, but still pronounced "YAHK ee oh". > When did they cease to be interchangeable, as in the Roman-looking > characters on T&M where the letter U is depicted as a V? I assume when the letter U came into existence, whenever that was. As you can see, the letters J,K,W,and Y are the youngest letters of the Western alphabet, though I'm not sure of their exact order of appearance. Damon Capehart | "As their numbers dwindled from 70 to 8, the aka Le Monsieur | dwarves began to suspect Hungry..." dcapehar at utdallas.edu | From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Fri Sep 6 19:06:23 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 23:06:23 UT Subject: OFF : Mournblade Message-ID: Jon said >I know we've been going to the same gigs for about 18 >years without meeting, Andy, but you never saw Mournblade, did you? Oh yes I did! :) Once at the Tramshed (?) in Woolwich supporting the Lloyd-Langton Group (Mournblade had all sorts of equipment aggro but were still great fun, although I left half-way through LLG 'cos I got bored), and the later "Live Fast Die Young" Mournblade at the Marquee. "Sidewinder" was definitely their best number "Here it comes - heatseeking - sidewinder - sidewind-uh-huh!" I have a neat 4-track cassette of theirs called _Ein Heldentraum_ (early line-up) which I dust down every so often, mostly for the great lyrics ("they've got the power to destroy/they can melt your little boy" being one of my favourites). Their bass player (in the later line-up) - "Blacken" White - had an electric eight-string Ricky, if I remember right... You know, Ron Tree reminds me of Dunken Mullett... :) - Andy From mjf at GRAHAM.COM Fri Sep 6 19:36:43 1996 From: mjf at GRAHAM.COM (Mike Fuller) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 16:36:43 -0700 Subject: off:alphabet soup In-Reply-To: <25AD3CD5C1B@hawk.syr.edu> Message-ID: >>>>> On Fri, 6 Sep 1996 13:07:58 EST, "Ted Jackson jr. EL 84" >>>>> said: Ted> Which came first, the letter "V" or "U"? V -- there is no U in Latin. Ted> When did they cease to be interchangeable, as in the Roman-looking Ted> characters on T&M where the letter U is depicted as a V? I've seen Ted> this all over a bunch of ancient books I've been handling lately, Ted> and would like the low down. thanks theo I'm not sure, but I'd guess sometime in the 1700s. The only instances I've seen in the US are in some really old cities on the East Coast. For example, when I lived in the DC Area, I lived in Prince George's County, which was established in the 1600s and written "Prince George's Covnty" on the buildings, etc. I also remember seeing many instances of V being used instead of U when I visited London. -- Mike From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Sat Sep 7 00:44:37 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:44:37 BST Subject: East Wind? In-Reply-To: Jon Browne's message of Fri, 6 Sep 1996 18:25:22 +0100 Message-ID: Jon Browne writes: > Wh'appen? > -- > Jon Browne My guess is Hurricane Fran which hit the US east coast yesterday disrupting power supplies and a great deal else besides, according to tonight's news. Hope everyone over there is safe! cheers jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Fri Sep 6 08:44:47 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 23:44:47 +1100 Subject: HW: Calvert - where to go from here? Message-ID: Stephen Swann wrote: > > It appears that I've at long last "discovered" Bob Calvert... > > I finally bought "Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters", and it's > been in my CD player constantly for the past 2 weeks. I particularly > like such lesser known pieces as "Hero With A Wing" (my favorite song > on the album), and "Catch a Falling Starfighter". I also like his > more thoughtful/introspective versions of the "rock" numbers that > Hawkwind often covers. > > So, with that in mind... what to get next? _Lucky Leif and the > Longships_ seems like the obvious choice - is it comparable > stylistically? And knowing that this is always a loaded question on > BOC-L... is it as good? :-) > > Also, what kind of material is on Freq (aren't there 2 versions of > this)? And is _Tales from the Atomhenge_ worth getting? > > Thanks for any info. > > Steve > swann at panix.com YES YES YES YES YES YES!!!!! Luck Leif is BLOODY FANTASTIC!!!! (Sorry about all the exclamation marks[!]). Leif is my faorite at the moment, though any Calvert material seems to be worth getting. I'm realy looking forward to the proposed stuuf from the chap that runs the Calvert page (a CD ROM and video project!). I haven't managed to get hold of Hype and am looking for it at the mement (so if anyone knows how to order this, please E-Mail me). Anyhoo... yes, as I say, any Calvert is worth getting. -Max Wilcox From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Fri Sep 6 21:22:08 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:22:08 -0400 Subject: Why no posts in two days? Message-ID: No, go away, we're listening to the 23-CD set of previously un-released Frank Zappa material, so don't bother us, you silly Italian! Now leave, before I chastise you some more!! %-) I was wondering the same thing, but it all stated to fill me mailbox around 1800 this evening. Looks like someone had a computer problem!!! obCDPlayer: Steve Hillman / Riding The Storm (most appropriate for you guys in the mid-Atlantic. Y'all doing OK?) craigs at pyramid.com ---------- From: Guido Vacano[SMTP:gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU] Sent: Friday, September 06, 1996 2:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Why no posts in two days? Is there anybody out there? Guido -- If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1853 bytes Desc: not available URL: From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Fri Sep 6 21:28:26 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:28:26 -0400 Subject: off:alphabet soup Message-ID: ---------- From: Mike Fuller[SMTP:mjf at GRAHAM.COM] Sent: Friday, September 06, 1996 7:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: off:alphabet soup >>>>> On Fri, 6 Sep 1996 13:07:58 EST, "Ted Jackson jr. EL 84" >>>>> said: Ted> Which came first, the letter "V" or "U"? V -- there is no U in Latin. Ted> When did they cease to be interchangeable, as in the Roman-looking Ted> characters on T&M where the letter U is depicted as a V? I've seen Ted> this all over a bunch of ancient books I've been handling lately, Ted> and would like the low down. thanks theo I'm not sure, but I'd guess sometime in the 1700s. The only instances I've seen in the US are in some really old cities on the East Coast. For example, when I lived in the DC Area, I lived in Prince George's County, which was established in the 1600s and written "Prince George's Covnty" on the buildings, etc. I also remember seeing many instances of V being used instead of U when I visited London. Mike, What part of PGC did you live in? I used to live in the Suitland/Skyline/ Morningside area for almost 20 years. The same can be said for the "s" and "f". In many old texts, I have seen what appears to be an elongated "s" but in actuality, it is an "f". Weird typesets in those days... obCDPlayer: Andy Pickford: Xenomorph (hey, it's a carousel on shuffle!) craigs at pyramid.com -- Mike -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Fran didn't even come ashore until last night, so I don't think we can blame her for this one. Still, I echo Jill's sentiments, and I hope that the list members that are in the path are safe and well (and having a hurricane party as we speak!) The North was getting a load of rain from this one, last time I checked. First time the entire state of North Carolina was declared a disaster zone, even before the storm hit... Later and take care... craigs at pyramid.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2018 bytes Desc: not available URL: From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Fri Sep 6 21:44:22 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:44:22 -0400 Subject: Calvert - where to go from here? Message-ID: ---------- From: Stephen Swann[SMTP:swann at MINDVOX.COM] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 1996 2:53 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: HW: Calvert - where to go from here? It appears that I've at long last "discovered" Bob Calvert... I finally bought "Captain Lockheed and the Starfighters", and it's been in my CD player constantly for the past 2 weeks. I particularly like such lesser known pieces as "Hero With A Wing" (my favorite song on the album), and "Catch a Falling Starfighter". I also like his more thoughtful/introspective versions of the "rock" numbers that Hawkwind often covers. So, with that in mind... what to get next? _Lucky Leif and the Longships_ seems like the obvious choice - is it comparable stylistically? And knowing that this is always a loaded question on BOC-L... is it as good? :-) This is probably my least favorite of all of the Calvert material. I only have this on LP, if that tells you anything... Also, what kind of material is on Freq (aren't there 2 versions of this)? And is _Tales from the Atomhenge_ worth getting? Freq was released twice, the second release (on Cleopatra) has two additional tracks. They are titles from the HYPE release, but are different (remixed?) versions of the tracks. I think the transfer is a little cleaner, too. I'm gonna buck the trend and put my vote in for HYPE, FREQ or TTC as the next choice to explore. HYPE has got some great tracks on it and a number of HW alumni (House, Turner come right to mind) guest on it. Tracks are a little poppish/punky, but are quite nice. FREQ is probably the darkest of all the Calvert material, tons of synths, dark subject choice (funny political snippits between tracks). TTC continues in the darker mood, not quite as synth-heavy, with some excellent tracks (Fanfare, Fly On The Wall, On-Line, title track). I have BFTC and find that it is for the Calvert completist (kinda like BRING ME THE HEAD, but not as bad) and shouldn't be the next choice. Haven't heard any of the other Calvert disks, so no comment... craigs at pyramid.com Thanks for any info. Steve swann at panix.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2780 bytes Desc: not available URL: From StevenTice at AOL.COM Fri Sep 6 22:54:49 1996 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 22:54:49 -0400 Subject: .mid i files Message-ID: I might have time to make some soon. Anything you'd especially like to see? SET From skarsol at EROLS.COM Fri Sep 6 21:00:05 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 01:00:05 +0000 Subject: .mid i files Message-ID: Steven Tice wrote: > > I might have time to make some soon. Anything you'd especially like to see? > > SET i would like to have some wav.files,of some interesting hw phrases, less than 32k,and 8par 11 mhz or whatever. this is for a game i play online called subspace,in which you are a ship in an arena with 100 or so other players all over the world,and you kill the hell out of each other.the game allows typed mssges tween players,and wave files if they fit the above criteria. if anyone is interested,the address is : http://www.vie.com/sniper if you go there,messge me,im pxr5. and play in the chaos zone. sorry to bug anyone who isnt interested(most of you,im sure). rj From mordru at MAGG.NET Sat Sep 7 02:07:42 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 02:07:42 -0400 Subject: .mid i files Message-ID: >I might have time to make some soon. Anything you'd especially like to see? Most of the stuff in the Imaginos saga, and VotPW as far. as BOC goes. Hawkwind-wise, stuff from Levitation, Church (who could tell the difference?), and Chronicle of the Black Sword.... =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Sat Sep 7 08:14:44 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 14:14:44 +0200 Subject: HW: Cunlhat gig on 18.8.96 Message-ID: Hi folks To all who are interested. Here is the tracklisting from the HAWKWIND gig (thanks O.) jam / master of the universe / awakening / photo encounter / blue skin / hassan i sahba / space is their / hassan i sahba / angels of death / love in space / aerospaceage inferno For the specialists: They played ANGELS OF DEATH for the 1st time since 1991 (Brixton, 06.07.1991) Bernhard From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Sat Sep 7 08:34:39 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 22:34:39 +1000 Subject: OFF: Ob In-Reply-To: <199609050813.SAA23700@pigeon.qut.edu.au> Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Peter Sondergeld wrote: > It seems that our use of Ob notes on boc-l is round the wrong way, at least > as I understand it. I was looking over an Internet dictionary and stumbled > onto the entry for Ob which says: > > Ob- A prefix for an obligatory addendum to an off-topic Usenet or list post. > Say you get into a political debate in the rec.music.dylan newsgroup. To > keep your post technically relevant to the group, you might add: > > ObDylan: Ah, but I was so much older then/I'm younger than that now. So, basically, Peter, you are saying to the list "RTFM", right? :) Troy ObCD- Jethro Tull- Songs from the wood. From paul at PCMICRO.COM.AU Sat Sep 7 08:27:18 1996 From: paul at PCMICRO.COM.AU (Paul G Ward) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 23:27:18 +1100 Subject: Alan Davey - "Captured Rotation" Message-ID: Hiya So:ren ...... Well here it is - the abridged review of sorts, as promised. First the cover art .... pretty awesome. There's a sort of wireframe mesh cube made up of pale blue lines over a starfield backdrop. Some of these frames are filled with live shots of the bass assassin #2. In the very center of the disc is a star going nova ... with rings of expanding flame in different colors. Extending from the center of the sun is a vertical line like a spindle with stars and planets skewered on it below, and truning into a spinal cord above. At the top of the spine is a spaceship, with a crystal mountain above and an illuminated dome below each wing. The center of the ship is a an indian hawk symbol. Behind the ship are clouds, two moons and a star. On one side the mesh cube becomes ribbons of light ... like the northern lights, with some bright stars and a dim face with bright red lips in between. Two paragraphs on the cover ... I must be impressed! Track 1, "The Call" is probably my favorite on the CD. It features Ron on vocals (and hey - he actually sounds OK here!). It's got some spacey effect similar to HW's Alien 4 album, but predominately it's a "I thought this was a rythym guitar" bass track. Lot's of punch and beat - you should like it I think (sounds like Alan was enjoying playing it too!) Track 2, "Never Comedown" was a real surprise for me. It's a very pleasant slow piece, with a nice melody and soft swirling backing synths. Sort of makes you want to close your eyes and sway your head around if you know what I mean. The third track is "Higher than Before", which was featured on the EBS sampler CD. If you aren't familiar with it, it's a little hard to describe. Another slowish track with some nice bits of slow and gentle lead guitar, and swishing synth noises for backing again. Ron Tree is back for "Ancient Light", a more bass-dominated track than what precedes. It's fairly dark and foreboding in places, with a faster pace for the choruses ..... and it has small bits of "The Riff". Ron's vocals once again more restrained than on the recent Hawkwind albums, which is a good thing with this track. The next four tracks are more expiremental and electronic in nature, and while they are quite listenable tracks, I don't find them particularly memorable. "Space Bass" sadly doesn't have any (Bass) .... lot's of metallic sounding noises reminiscent of the sounds you'd expect to hear in a giant freighter in a sci-fi movie, accompanied by an electronic pipe organ sound and some effects. The very short "Hawkestral" is a little faster, with the addition of some heavily synthesized guitar. The also very short "Nebula" follows, the pace slowing and the tone becoing more dark and menacing once again. This quartet closes with "Thunderbird^", the only track which also includes vocals (very soft and ghostlike with tons of oversampling) by Alan. It sort of reminds me of "Virgin of the World" to some extent. Track 9, and the album goes back where it left off with "Nova-drive", an almost frenetic keyboard and guitar combo. This is a very good track, probably my second favorite. "Spacial Wave" is another slow atmospheric piece. It's OK, but it doesn't really go anywhere. "Quirk" is similar in some respects to many of the tracks on Brock's "Strange Trips and Pipe Dreams" album. Wave sequencer's take over, but this track definitely has something. Finally, Ron is back for "Pre-Med", closing the album with some rock, just as it opened. The lyrics are a little repetive, but by no means painfully so. It can be played LOUD! Some great guitar work, and are you sure that those drums are electronic, and not real skins? Overall, it is a very good album, and worth buying. It's not an album of the year by any means. A few tracks in the middle seem to be fillers somehow, but it doesn't really detract when played as a whole. How's that? Sonique -- "If we knew what we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Ward, R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd ................................................................... Phone/Fax: +61 3 9888-9333/+61 3 9888-9001 Business Mail: mailto:paul at pcmicro.com.au ................................................................... Private Mail: mailto:sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au World Wide Web: http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Sat Sep 7 15:36:32 1996 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:36:32 BST Subject: HW: Alan Davey - "Captured Rotation" In-Reply-To: Paul G Ward's message of Sat, 7 Sep 1996 23:27:18 +1100 Message-ID: My take on the Davey album is rather different from Paul and Andy's. I like the wave synth tracks best. They're very spacey and atmospheric, along the lines of Wave Upon Wave and Blue Shift. The rock tracks are OK, but Ron's vocals are too conventional here for my tastes. The drum synths are pretty good, and Alan's guitar playing is OK, but IMO these tracks would sound better with the full band playing. The remaining faster instrumentals aren't so much my thing. Overall, not bad, but not as good as Hawkwind. Mind you, this is only after 1 and a half plays. There's plenty of time for my mind to change itself... Dave. From ROBOdewd at AOL.COM Sat Sep 7 13:36:33 1996 From: ROBOdewd at AOL.COM (ROBOdewd at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 13:36:33 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: November gig scheduled Message-ID: In a message dated 96-09-06 18:13:36 EDT, you write: << Deb recently informed me that the Brain Surgeons have a gig scheduled for November 23rd (a Saturday) in New York City at a place called the Rodeo Bar (Deb says "it's a fun place, great food from the Tex-Mex restaurant next door") John >> hey, when are these guys gonna start playin' in Pennsylvania? they only seem to play in New York and Massafarginchusetts...what about the other 48 states? does that Tex-Mex place have Jalapeno Poppers???!!! ROBO From Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM Sat Sep 7 13:40:20 1996 From: Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 12:40:20 -0500 Subject: HW: German tour dates Message-ID: To all, There are no German dates lined up for September. Star Rats From delacour at UNM.EDU Sat Sep 7 14:41:28 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 12:41:28 -0600 Subject: OFF; UFO list In-Reply-To: <199609071740.MAA20196@deliverator.io.com> Message-ID: Dear List members; If anyone is interested, I ran across an e-mail/discussion group for UFO in the latest issue of Goldmine. There have been some discussion about UFO and Schenker recently, so I thought that perhaps this might be of use to some; UFO Address; http://www.i-way.co.uk/~tristang/ufo/ufo.html I had to double check to make sure I wrote the address correctly. It sure is a long one, aint' it!! God bless... Manuel Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From NJDevilXXX at AOL.COM Sat Sep 7 16:32:03 1996 From: NJDevilXXX at AOL.COM (NJDevilXXX at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 16:32:03 -0400 Subject: Title of New Brain Surgeons Album Message-ID: A hammer is a hard-on and a box is a pussy. So, the new Brain Surgeons album is called "A pussy of hard-ons". Hmmm...I like it. Can't wait to hear it. Mike. };^)' From mumford at EUNET.NO Sat Sep 7 18:06:48 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 00:06:48 +0200 Subject: HW: was OFF: Delerium Records Message-ID: Mike Wright wrote: > > Ages ago (Aug 5) Martyn Lawrence martynl at FUJITSU.COM.AU pointed us in the > direction of the delerium web page, and I have got around to reading it, > it inhabits cyberspace at co-ordinates > > http://www.delerium.co.uk > > and I have read the article about Amon Duul II, and there are 2 > Hawkwind related bits which I extract for our interest > > Mike w > > ------------begin extracts----------- > -----------snip--------------- Ah, it was in Freakbeat # 8 I believe. ObCD: Orb - Orbvs Terrarvm From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Sat Sep 7 18:04:30 1996 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 18:04:30 -0400 Subject: OFF:New!From the Woman Who Recoiled From Pat Smear's MTV Kiss Message-ID: "Whenever I watch TV and see those > poor starving kids all over the world, I > can't help but cry. I mean, I'd love to be > skinny like that but not with all those > flies and death and stuff." > > -- Singer Mariah Carey speaking on the World > Entertainment News Network, as quoted by > columnist Herb Caen in Thursday's San > Francisco Chronicle. > > From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Sat Sep 7 18:04:55 1996 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 18:04:55 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: November gig scheduled Message-ID: so, when are you hiring us? or sending the plane tix... :-) df ps the Rodeo Bar has plenty of peppers, and a smoke blowing buffalo head, too. One night I was there, it even had a Springsteen. From kalex at EECS.UMICH.EDU Sat Sep 7 18:27:26 1996 From: kalex at EECS.UMICH.EDU (Ken Alexander) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 18:27:26 -0400 Subject: BOC: hot rails cover Message-ID: I was listening to a late night college radio show called "All Out Attack" that was lots of metal music interspersed with mangled sample quotes from Satan, Reagan, Limbaugh, and other famous evils. After a bit from Satan promising to let someone sit at his right hand if they help corrupt the youth of america, the song "Hot Rails to Hell" came on. It wasn't BOC. The song was fairly faithful to the original, but it was a bit faster and the vocalist had more of a destroyed larynx than anyone in BOC. It was difficult to get information out of a rather drunken college radio DJ who was blasting the music in his booth and who answers his phone with "this had better be important!", but he said something about it being by [spelling?] TescoVee and White Flag from the [garbled] compilation. From skarsol at EROLS.COM Sat Sep 7 14:42:34 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 18:42:34 +0000 Subject: HW: Calvert - where to go from here? Message-ID: J Strobridge wrote: > > Are things really this quiet? No mail for a whole day! > well,if yer bored,ya can have the 60 odd repeat messages i got today from aug 29.what the hell is going on? karyn says hello,jill. rj From skarsol at EROLS.COM Sat Sep 7 14:46:43 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 18:46:43 +0000 Subject: Alan Davey - "Captured Rotation" Message-ID: Paul G Ward wrote: > > At the top of the spine is a spaceship, with a crystal mountain above > and an illuminated dome below each wing. The center of the ship is a > an indian hawk symbol. this symbol is the necklace pendant that alan wears at all times.he told me on tour that it would be,when i showed him my nearly identical belt buckle.:) rj From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Sep 7 10:23:53 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:23:53 +0100 Subject: HW : HMV Sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just saw Live Chronicles, Space Bandits and Silver Machine (comp. mostly Bronze-era) in the UKP5.99 or 3 for UKP15 HMV sale. Anyone without Live Chronicles in the UK should not pass this up. What did I get? Best of The 13th Floor Elevators for a fiver, a Garage/Psyche comp with Moby Grape, Nirvana (the 60's one), Creation, Tommorrow, Electric Prunes etc for a fiver, Nuggets Vol.2 for a fiver. THAT'S a sale! Now all I need is a couple of Seeds CD's and I'll be just about getting there... -- Jon Browne OBTrack "Get me to the World On Time" - Electric Prunes From david at MASTMOOR.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Sep 7 08:57:15 1996 From: david at MASTMOOR.DEMON.CO.UK (David Jones) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 13:57:15 +0100 Subject: OFF : Bryan Talbot Message-ID: Sorry for the delay with this message Just catching up on reading the list for last few weeks. Someone mentioned Bryan Talbot anybody got any ideas as to what he's been up to since tale of one bad rat ? David From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sun Sep 8 01:48:55 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 01:48:55 -0400 Subject: Hey, Star Rats? Message-ID: Any tour dates end of Oct., beginning of Nov? regards, Bill Stewart P.S. RJ, you listening??? From dahl at MAIL.AROS.NET Sun Sep 8 03:41:53 1996 From: dahl at MAIL.AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 01:41:53 -0600 Subject: OTHER: alphabet soup Message-ID: Language fans, My good friend and language expert Cami offers this explanation of the V and U thing: U, as in the Greek upsilon (which looks like a Y in upper case) came first, and was a vowel, with the consonantal property of a W when part of a dipthong juxtaposed between syllables. Around the eighth century b.c., the Greek city-states did so much colonizing across the Mediterranean that southern Italy would be known as Magna Graecia right up until the Vandals came calling and pulled the plug on the western Empire. The Etruscans, who dominated the peninsula in those days, traded extensively with the Hellene merchant marines and picked up the alphabet in the process. Rome was an illiterate collection of huts on some of the later-famous seven hills while this was going on, but over the next three hundred years, she learned architecture, set out to take over the world, and decided that reading was fun. The Quirites learned their letters before they threw out Servilius and his ilk forever (it was all downhill for the Etruscans after that) but, being Romans, they modified a bit and came up with the orthography we use ourselves. U was still a U, pronounced "oo" (when long) or "uh" (when short) midsyllable, but its doubling as a W developed beyond that of its precursor; it became a consonant in its own right, disavowing association with other vowels and giving Caesar (and Missile Dick) "ueni, uidi, uici." V as we pronounce it did not exist in Classical Latin (nor did J, or ch-sounding C) and would not chew on the universal tongue of scholars, scientists, and sordid struggling artists until the Dark Ages had fallen and indoor plumbing was forgotten. V as we print it originally represented the Latin U regardless of its incarnation; what dictated the appearance of the letter was the medium in which it was displayed. All handwriting in those days was (impossible to read and), in what we would call cursive--try working with a quill on a scroll, and you'll find lifting the pen off the papyrus is an exercise you care to engage in as infrequently as possible, so your script will tend to avoid both breaks between words and straight lines. If, however, you are carving dedications on a marble monument, chances are pretty good you'll want to keep curves to a minimum, and as it was pro forma to drop the name of the deity to whom you built such a nice temple, CAPITALS (get it?) spelled it out over the colonnade. It may be apocryphal, but the designation of V to distinguish consonantal use is attributed to (my favorite emperor) C-C-Claudius (a.d.41-54), who had studied both history and language before the assassination of Gaius-don't-call-me-Caligula-godammit gave him the authority to determine common spelling application. I happen to be fond of the old guy, so I'm buying. Isn't she wonderful? Love ya, Brad http://www.moosenet.com/poison.html From david at MASTMOOR.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Sep 7 08:57:22 1996 From: david at MASTMOOR.DEMON.CO.UK (David Jones) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 13:57:22 +0100 Subject: .mid i files Message-ID: >I might have time to make some soon. Anything you'd especially like to see? > >SET I'd be very interested in any Hawkwind midi files at all or even any chord progressions for stuff like Blue Shift and the like since I find it very difficult to pick out keyboard progressions with my tin ears. If anybody thinks they know any HW songs well enough to do a chord chart then we should try and put together a few in a document - they can't be that hard can they ? David From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun Sep 8 05:39:16 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 10:39:16 +0100 Subject: the bass ritual In-Reply-To: <199609050411.VAA12800@mx.serv.net> from "Steve Burton" at Sep 4, 96 09:11:06 pm Message-ID: > >I'll guess it was "Lord Of Light". > > Yeah! LOL captivated me as a youngster too! I was so proud when I'd learnt > the bass line! Have you got bass tab for this or could you type it up? I occasionally play along with this but can tell I'm not playing quite what Lemmy is playing and it'd be interesting to know the "proper" lines ... Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************* Carl Edlund Anderson "Hefi ek ok aldri cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk sva reitt vapn at manni http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html at hafi vid kommit." Dept. of ASNAC Studies, Cambridge U. --Skarphedinn Njalsson ************************************************************************* From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun Sep 8 06:11:02 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 11:11:02 +0100 Subject: BRAIN: November gig scheduled In-Reply-To: <960907180453_279705660@emout19.mail.aol.com> from "DFrost8547@AOL.COM" at Sep 7, 96 06:04:55 pm Message-ID: > ps the Rodeo Bar has plenty of peppers, and a smoke blowing buffalo head, > too. Anyplace with a smoke blowing buffalo head cannot be all bad :) Cheers, Carl From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Sun Sep 8 10:16:43 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:16:43 +0200 Subject: Tilburg festival on 07.Sep.96 Message-ID: Hi folks Just a short note to let you know the following facts: The Tiburg gig was a chaotic (but GOOD) gig with lot of problems with Daves synthesizers. Therefore lot of guitar playing by Dave and Jerry. The band was despite the technical problems in a VERY good mood !! Lineup: ROCK / CHADWICK / DAVEY / TREE / RICHARDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, Alan was there, and Jerry !!!!!! They played for about 70 minutes with one new (old) song: BRAINSTORM with an interesting middle part. cu Bernhard From skarsol at EROLS.COM Sun Sep 8 07:50:33 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 11:50:33 +0000 Subject: Hey, Star Rats? Message-ID: Bill Stewart wrote: > > Any tour dates end of Oct., beginning of Nov? > > regards, > Bill Stewart > > P.S. RJ, you listening??? yup.send me private mail,please rj From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun Sep 8 13:43:43 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 18:43:43 +0100 Subject: Tilburg festival on 07.Sep.96 In-Reply-To: <199609081416.QAA29141@mail.castrop-rauxel.netsurf.de> from "Bernhard Pospiech" at Sep 8, 96 04:16:43 pm Message-ID: > The Tiburg gig was a chaotic (but GOOD) gig with lot of problems with Daves > synthesizers. Therefore lot of guitar playing by Dave and Jerry. Well, whatever it takes! :) > Lineup: ROCK / CHADWICK / DAVEY / TREE / RICHARDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Yes, Alan was there, and Jerry !!!!!! Good to see they've got some more people on stage! Still wish they'd get a synth person instead of another guitar person, but oh well. Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************* Carl Edlund Anderson "So that's Terra. Oohwee, cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk look out wenchlings, here http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html come the Hawklords." cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk -Lord Lemmy (Hawkwind) ************************************************************************* From Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM Sun Sep 8 13:45:17 1996 From: Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 12:45:17 -0500 Subject: Hey, Star Rats? Message-ID: At 11:50 AM 9/8/96 +0000, you wrote: >Bill Stewart wrote: >> >> Any tour dates end of Oct., beginning of Nov? >> >> regards, >> Bill Stewart There is one lined up for the beginning of Nov in the UK, but the gig details haven't been confirmed yet by the band. The gig therefore can't be confirmed until these details have been sorted out. Yours Star Rats From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Sun Sep 8 17:23:02 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Le Monsieur) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:23:02 -0500 Subject: Tilburg festival on 07.Sep.96 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, Carl E. Anderson wrote: > Bernard wrote: > > Lineup: ROCK / CHADWICK / DAVEY / TREE / RICHARDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Yes, Alan was there, and Jerry !!!!!! > Good to see they've got some more people on stage! Still wish they'd > get a synth person instead of another guitar person, but oh well. OK, now I'm curious, and have probably missed some information somehow. Who is Jerry Richards, and how come his name isn't ringing any bells in either hemisphere of my brain? Damon Capehart | "As their numbers dwindled from 70 to 8, the aka Le Monsieur | dwarves began to suspect Hungry..." dcapehar at utdallas.edu | From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Sun Sep 8 22:39:20 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 22:39:20 BST Subject: OFF: Back to normal In-Reply-To: SKARSOL's message of Sat, 7 Sep 1996 18:42:34 +0000 Message-ID: SKARSOL writes: > J Strobridge wrote: > > > > Are things really this quiet? No mail for a whole day! > > > > well,if yer bored,ya can have the 60 odd repeat messages i got today > from aug 29.what the hell is going on? Oh! US folk getting special favours from the listserver now..... I'm jealous 8-) Still, things seem back to normal now. > karyn says hello,jill. rj Hi Karyn! Hope to see you on the next UK Hawkwind tour 8-) jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From StevenTice at AOL.COM Sun Sep 8 19:49:18 1996 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 19:49:18 -0400 Subject: OFF : Bryan Talbot Message-ID: Bryan Talbot has been writing the excellent Phage series for Tekno. Check it out if for nothing other than the wonderfully powerful deconstruction of modern art in (I think) the third issue. SET (BOC-L's resident comic shop owner) From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Sun Sep 8 23:09:16 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:09:16 -0400 Subject: OFF : Bryan Talbot In-Reply-To: <960908194917_518498491@emout16.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, Steven Tice wrote: > SET (BOC-L's resident comic shop owner) I thought that honour belonged to our very own Jon Browne?? ;-) Cheers, Paul. obCD: Various, _Singles: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Mon Sep 9 00:33:52 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:33:52 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey - "Captured Rotation" Message-ID: On 7-SEP-1996 09:36:15.5 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >How's that? >Sonique Wonderful, Sonique! Now, how about such an in-depth review of Past Or Future? (a possible album of the year), which you've had for a much longer time?? (G) Sorry, gotta keep harrassin' ya... Chuck `[1;33;46mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From mumford at EUNET.NO Mon Sep 9 03:12:13 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:12:13 +0200 Subject: OFF : Bryan Talbot Message-ID: David Jones wrote: > > Sorry for the delay with this message Just catching up on reading the list > for last few weeks. > > Someone mentioned Bryan Talbot anybody got any ideas as to what he's been > up to since tale of one bad rat ? > > David Yeah, he's been recently, and still is, doing covers for 'Teknophage' for Big Entertainment in the States. He used to do the interior art too for vol. 1 of the series up until recently, and it's pretty damn great. The previous writer, Rick Veitch had some brilliant stories and the series is highly recommended for multiverse-sci-fi type readers....(of course Talbot's opus, 'The Adventures of Luther Arkwright' was a tip off the hat to Moorcock's 'Jerry Cornelius'....). I don't think there's a paperback of 'Teknophage', but the first series is well worth hunting down - some of Talbot's best work IMHO. Christian From mumford at EUNET.NO Mon Sep 9 03:35:18 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:35:18 +0200 Subject: jon@comics.demon.co.uk Message-ID: Jon Browne wrote: > > Just saw Live Chronicles, Space Bandits and Silver Machine (comp. mostly > Bronze-era) in the UKP5.99 or 3 for UKP15 HMV sale. Anyone without Live > Chronicles in the UK should not pass this up. What did I get? Best of > The 13th Floor Elevators for a fiver, a Garage/Psyche comp with Moby > Grape, Nirvana (the 60's one), Creation, Tommorrow, Electric Prunes etc > for a fiver, Nuggets Vol.2 for a fiver. THAT'S a sale! Now all I need is > a couple of Seeds CD's and I'll be just about getting there... > -- > Jon Browne > > OBTrack "Get me to the World On Time" - Electric Prunes Definetly their best tune! I'm very interested in the last 60's Garage/Psych comp, unless somebody already snatched it! What's it called and what do you want in return? Let me know, thanks. Christian From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Mon Sep 9 09:40:33 1996 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:40:33 BST Subject: HW : Hawkwind picture disk In-Reply-To: Jon Browne's message of Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:23:53 +0100 Message-ID: Jon's post reminds me. The 2nd-hand department of Andy's Records in Cambridge (UK) has a picture disk of Hawkwind's eponymous first album for sale. I don't know how much. Dave. From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Sep 9 04:33:15 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:33:15 +0100 Subject: OFF : Bryan Talbot In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , David Jones writes >Sorry for the delay with this message Just catching up on reading the list >for last few weeks. > >Someone mentioned Bryan Talbot anybody got any ideas as to what he's been >up to since tale of one bad rat ? > >David Good question, It's been a little while since the masterly "Tale Of One Bad Rat" and all I've seen is Big/Tekno Covers. I'll see what I can find out. -- Jon Browne From mumford at EUNET.NO Mon Sep 9 08:44:37 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 14:44:37 +0200 Subject: OFF/BOC: Dictators Message-ID: Just listened to the Dictator's great 1975 album 'Go Girl Crazy' again for the first time in ages, and on the song 'Two Tub Man', Manitoba (the singer) roars a crazed challenging opening dialogue, the closing part being to the effect of "Haystack Balloon, Eric Bloom, I don't care who you bring on baby, they'll all tremble under the might of Manitoba!". I presume The Dictators knew BOC through Sandy Pearlman who produced both them and The Dictators. And obviously 'Haystack Balloon' is the legendary wrestler 'Haystack Calhoun'.... It's interesting nonetheless that thru Pearlman and otherwise, a 'rawk-band' like BOC had such new-wave/punk connections like Dictators, Patti Smith and Dream Syndicate. Otherwise, fans of Ramones should definetly get this album, not only do they pre-date their buddies Ramones (I think) with the 'Let's Go!' chorus and style (but somewhat slower, more melodic sound), but they also looked just like them, haircuts, ugliness and leather-jackets and all! Christian From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Mon Sep 9 10:32:44 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:32:44 EST Subject: OFF/BOC: Dictators Message-ID: > > Just listened to the Dictator's great 1975 album 'Go Girl Crazy' again > for the first time in ages, and on the song 'Two Tub Man', Manitoba (the > singer) roars a crazed challenging opening dialogue, the closing part > being to the effect of "Haystack Balloon, Eric Bloom, I don't care who > you bring on baby, they'll all tremble under the might of Manitoba!". I > presume The Dictators knew BOC through Sandy Pearlman who produced both > them and The Dictators. And obviously 'Haystack Balloon' is the > legendary wrestler 'Haystack Calhoun'.... It's interesting nonetheless > that thru Pearlman and otherwise, a 'rawk-band' like BOC had such > new-wave/punk connections like Dictators, Patti Smith and Dream > Syndicate. > > Otherwise, fans of Ramones should definetly get this album, not only do > they pre-date their buddies Ramones (I think) with the 'Let's Go!' > chorus and style (but somewhat slower, more melodic sound), but they > also looked just like them, haircuts, ugliness and leather-jackets and > all! > > Christian I saw the Dictators once, opening for Kiss! Dictators were amazing, it was just as Manifest Destiny was releared. A fine album, and really a progression for them. They never were able to sustain it, though... theo From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Mon Sep 9 09:44:22 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:44:22 -0400 Subject: Title of New Brain Surgeons Album Message-ID: So, if Bolle's interpretations are correct, the Brain Surgeons are exploring new, uh, territory to operate upon . . . John From mumford at EUNET.NO Mon Sep 9 09:54:18 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:54:18 +0200 Subject: Tilburg festival on 07.Sep.96 Message-ID: Le Monsieur wrote: > > > Bernard wrote: > > > Lineup: ROCK / CHADWICK / DAVEY / TREE / RICHARDS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > Yes, Alan was there, and Jerry !!!!!! > > Good to see they've got some more people on stage! Still wish they'd > > get a synth person instead of another guitar person, but oh well. > > OK, now I'm curious, and have probably missed some information somehow. > Who is Jerry Richards, and how come his name isn't ringing any bells in > either hemisphere of my brain? > Never heard of 'im either! Are we in an alternate reality where Jerry Richards has been playing lead guitar since Langton left 8 years ago...? Christian From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Mon Sep 9 09:54:34 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 13:54:34 UT Subject: Tilburg festival on 07.Sep.96 Message-ID: Jerry Richards is the guy who played wah-wah lead guitar on the _Alien 4_ version of "Death Trap". Pay attention, you guys! :) - Andy From etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE Mon Sep 9 15:12:19 1996 From: etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE (Rob) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:12:19 BST Subject: Tilburg festival on 07.Sep.96 Message-ID: > > Jerry Richards is the guy who played wah-wah lead guitar on the _Alien 4_ > version of "Death Trap". Pay attention, you guys! :) > > - Andy > Isn't he also guitarist for Tubilah Dog who supported HW in '89. bye - Rob From C.D.Bates at SHEFFIELD.AC.UK Mon Sep 9 10:57:52 1996 From: C.D.Bates at SHEFFIELD.AC.UK (Chris Bates) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:57:52 +0100 Subject: Tilburg festival on 07.Sep.96 Message-ID: Rob wrote of Jerry Richards: > Isn't he also guitarist for Tubilah Dog who supported HW in '89. I'm also in the *who is he?* camp... but if that is the guy it leads me to ask if he's joined or simply guesting. I vaguely remember liking Tubilah Dog who did some good Hillage and Gong type stuff. Wasn't the guitarist a Hillage clone? If so he'd be just the job IMO. What was he like at Tilburg? Did he fit in? Did the band rock more with him? How was the blanga quotient? Confused of Sheffield From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Mon Sep 9 12:09:00 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 18:09:00 +0200 Subject: HW: Jerry Richard gigs with HW Message-ID: Hi folks Just to make things clearer. Here are the gigs Jerry played with HW - 07.06.1995 Isle Of Man, Festival - 08.06.1995 Isle Of Man, Festival - 27.07.1995 London, Studio - 29.07.1995 Pentrich, Festival - 18.08.1996 Cunlhat, Festival - 07.09.1996 Tilburg, Festival ...and on DEATH TRAP (ALIEN4) ..... see booklet !!!!! Bernhard From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Mon Sep 9 15:34:54 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:34:54 -0400 Subject: Like a hurricane Message-ID: just got reconnected after being hit by hurricane Fran. Did I miss anything? Martyn From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Mon Sep 9 15:50:36 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:50:36 -0400 Subject: OFF/BOC: Dictators Message-ID: The closest I've seen to the Dictators was Mark "The Animal" Mendoza, who used to play bass for them, before achieving further notoriety in Twisted Sister. He was in Boston on the occassion of some band playing in a Boston club did a Dictators tune, and they got him to play bass for the song. And yeah, I once saw Twisted Sister live -- but only because Y&T was opening for them! ;-) John From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Mon Sep 9 15:03:40 1996 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 14:03:40 -0500 Subject: HW: Original SR release/8-Track In-Reply-To: Assassin Sonique "Re: HW: Original SR release/8-Track" (Sep 5, 10:41pm) Message-ID: Assassin Sonique wrote: > On 31 Aug 96 at 6:49, Johan Edlundh wrote: > > > don't think so - I've owned three copies of the poster sleeve Space Ritual > > thru the years - but only one had the psychedelic red/yellow inner sleeve. > > The other two has a plain white inner sleeve (one of these now is happy in a > > Melbourne suburb kollektion) > > And very happy indeed it is ..... but now I realise that I now need a > fourth copy of _SR_ for the Kollection ... My copy of SR has white plastic inner sleeves with the "Liberty" name printed on them. This may have been common in later releases as I didn't get this until 1979 or so. Frank -- ============================================================================== Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 OK, stupid question time. The etter before m on my keyboard is broken. How do I ogout? From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Mon Sep 9 17:33:28 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 16:33:28 EST Subject: OFF/BOC: Dictators Message-ID: > The closest I've seen to the Dictators was Mark "The Animal" Mendoza, > who used to play bass for them, before achieving further notoriety in > Twisted Sister. > > He was in Boston on the occassion of some band playing in a Boston > club did a Dictators tune, and they got him to play bass for the song. > > And yeah, I once saw Twisted Sister live -- but only because Y&T was > opening for them! ;-) > > John Hey, AB, how'd you get onto John's account? There was a great legend about the Animal, don't know if it was PR or not. Supposedly he was was a juvenile delinquent, and he told one interviewer that he and his pals used to steal bowling balls from the local alley, and throw them into buildings from speeding cars! He said it hit like a cannonball, would go clean through the wall! theo From delacour at UNM.EDU Mon Sep 9 18:29:13 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 16:29:13 -0600 Subject: Bugging You In-Reply-To: <2A642AE5BA2@hawk.syr.edu> Message-ID: Theo; Hey, were's my Worcester '82 tape??? Going on 3 months!!!! Take care.... Manuel Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Sep 9 08:45:22 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 13:45:22 +0100 Subject: OFF : Comic Shop Owner! In-Reply-To: <960908194917_518498491@emout16.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: In message <960908194917_518498491 at emout16.mail.aol.com>, Steven Tice writes >Bryan Talbot has been writing the excellent Phage series for Tekno. Check it >out if for nothing other than the wonderfully powerful deconstruction of >modern art in (I think) the third issue. > >SET (BOC-L's resident comic shop owner) No *I'm* BOC-L's resident comic shop owner and Hawk-nut! THEY WALK AMONG US est .1987 see our crumbling ruin of a web-site, not updated since Marvel went direct thus gobbling up all my free time! http://www.demon.co.uk/comicshop/index and I've met Bryan! :) -- Jon Browne From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Mon Sep 9 20:06:47 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 20:06:47 -0400 Subject: Tilburg festival on 07.Sep.96 Message-ID: In a message dated 96-09-08 13:44:59 EDT, you write: > Still wish >they'd get a synth person instead of another guitar person, but oh well. PERSON? We dunt need no stinkun persons---get another MACHINE;-) regards, Bill Stewart From ir004728 at INTERRAMP.COM Tue Sep 10 00:09:43 1996 From: ir004728 at INTERRAMP.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:09:43 -0400 Subject: Shipping date of BoH Message-ID: As Deborah has posted, Box of Hammers has been finished. What's left to be done is the sequencing of the songs, mastering, all the artwork, and duplication. We have started on all these tasks but realisticly we don't expect to have anything for sale before November. We have not decided how we will sell this album. We may sell it as part of a special offer and include some other piece of merchandise such as clothing or some collectable (i.e. Metallica's fan can). We have decided that it will not be available in any store before next May (5/97) because we want to try for a better distribution deal and we are not sending out any promos before then either. It will only be available three ways; from the mailing list; from BOC-L; or at a live show. PLEASE DO NOT SEND ANY MONEY NOW. If you already have please be patient. We will keep you posted. In the meantime I can tell you the names of the songs that made it. They are: 1. Locked Up 2. I'm On Fire 3. Gun 4. Date With A Guitar 5. In 6. Little Egypt 7. End In Tears 8. Mexican Joint 9. Earthquake Boogie 10. Laura's Plastic Swords 11. Overture 12. Donkey Show 13. Tender Was The Night 14. St Vitus Dance All of the regular suspects participated in the recording plus many special guests. The surprises are: Flip Barnes; trumpet on Donkey Show, and Overture Jacob Bouchard; vocals on Overture Joe Bouchard; keyboards on Gun, Tender was the Night, and St. Vitus Dance, Overture Crispin Ceo; sax on End in Tears, Donkey Show and Laura's Plastic Swords Dave Dunton; keyboards on End In Tears, Date With a Guitar, and Laura's Plastic Swords Don Fleming; guitar on Gun, Overture, theraimin on Gun and Little Egypt John Freid and Deena Shoskus; vocals on Donkey Show Tara Key; guitar on St. Vitus Dance Jack Rigg; guitar on Overture Felice Rosser; vocals on End In Tears Jack Secret; vocals on Earthquake Boogie Anyway I'm really happy with how it came out. It is definitely the best Surgeons album ever and I suggest that some of you have a change of underpants before you listen to it because, even though we tried to please ourselves first and foremost we also kept in mind the personalities that we have come to know (and love) here within the group. (No Hawkwind covers yet but ya never know! Maybe the next one). Al From StevenTice at AOL.COM Tue Sep 10 00:48:57 1996 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:48:57 -0400 Subject: OFF : Comic Shop Owner! Message-ID: Sorry for not knowing there was another comic shop owner on BOC-L! Hmmm, what does it say about BOC-L that out of however many people are on here, two of us are comic shop owners? Hmmm.... SET From mumford at EUNET.NO Tue Sep 10 03:38:13 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:38:13 +0200 Subject: OFF : Comic Shop Owner! Message-ID: Steven Tice wrote: > > Sorry for not knowing there was another comic shop owner on BOC-L! Hmmm, > what does it say about BOC-L that out of however many people are on here, two > of us are comic shop owners? Hmmm.... > > SET Hey, I draw the silly things! Christian From mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK Tue Sep 10 09:18:48 1996 From: mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK (Mike Parkington) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:18:48 +-100 Subject: OFF: Thanks Message-ID: Back on the list, Thanks Bernhard. All are fine but no sleep for days! Mike P From C.D.Bates at SHEFFIELD.AC.UK Tue Sep 10 04:44:34 1996 From: C.D.Bates at SHEFFIELD.AC.UK (Chris Bates) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:44:34 +0100 Subject: OFF/BOC: Dictators Message-ID: John wrote: > And yeah, I once saw Twisted Sister live -- but only because Y&T was > opening for them! ;-) Are you saying that you prefered the very average Y and T to the ultimate good-time rock'n'roll band? John you are one sick puppy!!!! Chris From lansford at VNET.NET Tue Sep 10 05:17:03 1996 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:17:03 GMT Subject: Title of New Brain Surgeons Album In-Reply-To: <960906155809_473163977@emout17.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, DFrost8547 at aol.com wrote: >Subj: Re:BRAIN SURGEONS >Date: 96-09-05 05:14:57 EDT >From: TUBULAR 1 > >Yes, just what the Doctors ordered.... A Box of Hammers! (A Hammer in >Swedish is a Hard-On!) >Can't go wrong with such fine words!!! :-) >BOLLE_!_? I guess this means Fran made me miss the announcement. Now I'm =really= ticked. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Political campaigns have about them the same excitement as a prizefight. Campaigns, however, are not nearly as orderly as professional boxing matches. - Ansolabehere and Iyengar -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Jean Lansford oyster.girl at genie.geis.com lansford at vnet.net From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Tue Sep 10 07:06:42 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:06:42 +1100 Subject: Alan Davey - "Captured Rotation" Message-ID: On 8 Sep 96 at 23:33, HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM wrote: > >How's that? > >Sonique > > Wonderful, Sonique! Now, how about such an in-depth review of Past Or > Future? (a possible album of the year), > which you've had for a much longer time?? (G) > Sorry, gotta keep harrassin' ya... Awww ... awright. Stay tuned (and one day I'll get apst the mid-80's on my HW reviews too!) Sonique -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Tue Sep 10 08:07:03 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 14:07:03 +0200 Subject: Title of New Brain Surgeons Album Message-ID: >>Yes, just what the Doctors ordered.... A Box of Hammers! (A Hammer in >>Swedish is a Hard-On!) >>Can't go wrong with such fine words!!! :-) >>BOLLE_!_? I've never heard the word 'Hammare' been used this way. >Jean Lansford oyster.girl at genie.geis.com lansford at vnet.net \\joe From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Tue Sep 10 07:06:42 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:06:42 +1100 Subject: Shipping date of BoH Message-ID: On 10 Sep 96 at 0:09, Albert T Bouchard wrote: > 14. St Vitus Dance Gidday Al, Just an idle question ... is this an original, or a cover of one of the previous incarnations of tracks of this name? Just wondering, SOnique -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Tue Sep 10 07:06:43 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:06:43 +1100 Subject: HW: More Calvert and HW NEWS Message-ID: >From Knut Gerwers .... ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- and again there are several new items on my Calvert site - amongst others a completely new-'designed' Hawkwind page - links for the Pink Fairies / Twink / Paul Rudolph - plus exclusice pics by our ole friend Phil Franks check out the HAWKWIND and COLLABRELATIONS pages..... or have a look first at the NEWS pages for ALL updates did I tell you about the new STEPPENWOLF page? a killer site in terms of it's size...but worth waiting a bit for the download.... and much more ahead.... http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/ -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From mumford at EUNET.NO Tue Sep 10 08:32:55 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 14:32:55 +0200 Subject: Title of New Brain Surgeons Album Message-ID: Johan Edlundh wrote: > > >>Yes, just what the Doctors ordered.... A Box of Hammers! (A Hammer in > >>Swedish is a Hard-On!) > >>Can't go wrong with such fine words!!! :-) > >>BOLLE_!_? > > I've never heard the word 'Hammare' been used this way. > > >Jean Lansford oyster.girl at genie.geis.com lansford at vnet.net > > \\joe Maybe it's another novel American misunderstanding of all things euro? I guess you could say something to the effect of 'to hammer it in' (excuse my french, ladies and gentlemen) in any language... And what would you do with a box of swedish hard-ons anyway? Play squash? :-) Of course, the Grateful Dead's 'Box of Rain' has a whole new meaning now... Christian (just another dirty mind) From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Tue Sep 10 08:28:29 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:28:29 +1000 Subject: Bugging You In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, jean l delacour wrote: > Theo; > > Hey, were's my Worcester '82 tape??? Going on 3 months!!!! > > Take care.... > > Manuel > YEAH THEO!!! Oh, Manuel, I tried that UFO website, and it bounced me. You sure about the address? Troy > delacour at unm.edu > From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Tue Sep 10 08:53:53 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:53:53 +1000 Subject: Title of New Brain Surgeons Album In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960910140852.24375a8e@eka.ericsson.se> Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Johan Edlundh wrote: > >>Yes, just what the Doctors ordered.... A Box of Hammers! (A Hammer in > >>Swedish is a Hard-On!) > >>Can't go wrong with such fine words!!! :-) > >>BOLLE_!_? > > I've never heard the word 'Hammare' been used this way. > Me neither. It could not be "hammel" either. However, we who work on the sea have *always used the word "hammer" to mean male organ, erect or otherwise. Maybe it is an old Scandinavian mariner's slang term that has infiltrated other nationalities nautical jargon? Any way, Bolle is from *Ska^ne* after all. Troy "Men han har ju ingenting pa^ sig!!" ...."Kejsarens nya kla"der" > \\joe > From ROBOdewd at AOL.COM Tue Sep 10 09:03:42 1996 From: ROBOdewd at AOL.COM (ROBOdewd at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:03:42 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: November gig scheduled Message-ID: In a message dated 96-09-07 18:06:41 EDT, you write: << so, when are you hiring us? or sending the plane tix... :-) df >> well, I'm gettin' married July 19, 1997...lemme know how much you guys charge...if I have to pay for plane tickets, then you guys are gonna fly in one of dem rubberband-powered bi-planes! ROBO From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Tue Sep 10 08:08:29 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 23:08:29 +1100 Subject: HW: Steppenwolf on Calvert Pages Message-ID: Lookit this: http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/lywolf.htm -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Tue Sep 10 09:27:40 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 13:27:40 UT Subject: Title of New Brain Surgeons Album Message-ID: There's a new Brain Surgeons album on the way, and all the discussion it generates is another selection of knob gags? I despair of this list sometimes. "Gun" is a long-lost BOC tune, n'est-ce pas? "I'm on Fire" isn't the Springsteen number? Is it??? Let's try and get the UK ordering sorted out in advance, this time! - Andy From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Sep 10 09:39:21 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:39:21 -0400 Subject: OFF/BOC: Dictators Message-ID: Chris comments on me: > And yeah, I once saw Twisted Sister live -- but only because Y&T was > opening for them! ;-) Are you saying that you prefered the very average Y and T to the ultimate good-time rock'n'roll band? John you are one sick puppy!!!! Well, I did become an SMF for awhile after that show (I actually got front row seats free from a local radio promotional thing). I won't start raving about Y&T, but I used to like them quite a bit. Twisted Sister? Well, I have to admit that they were lots of fun. Sure, songs like "We're Not Gonna Take It" don't compare with some of BOC's masterpieces, but my foot starts tappin' just thinking about that song . . . John From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Sep 10 09:41:44 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:41:44 -0400 Subject: Title of New Brain Surgeons Album Message-ID: > I've never heard the word 'Hammare' been used this way. > > >Jean Lansford oyster.girl at genie.geis.com lansford at vnet.net > > \\joe Maybe it's another novel American misunderstanding of all things euro? Well, Bolle is from Sweden . . . From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Sep 10 09:43:24 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:43:24 -0400 Subject: Shipping date of BoH Message-ID: > 14. St Vitus Dance Gidday Al, Just an idle question ... is this an original, or a cover of one of the previous incarnations of tracks of this name? Someone previously asked about this song (tBS have been playing it live this year) - wondering if it was a Black Sabbath cover. It is NOT a cover. John From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Sep 10 10:01:19 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:01:19 -0400 Subject: Shipping date of BoH Message-ID: Well, a sure sign that the latest Brain Surgeons' CD is coming along well is on-line commentary from Al Bouchard ;-) Thanks for all the cool info on the upcoming CD, even if I have to wait at least 2 or 3 months to hear it (then again, I've been waiting much longer than that to hear a new BOC release...). I'll be sure to change my underpants before then... >3. Gun Is this the several-times-tried-but-never-made-it-on-a-BOC-album song that you and Joe wrote? >2. I'm On Fire Not related to the song "On Fire With Love" that the Bouchard Brothers used to perform? >4. Date With A Guitar >14. St Vitus Dance Two cool tunes that have been part of tBS live show recently... >9. Earthquake Boogie "Buck's Boogie" on steroids? Or would that be "Bouchard Boogie"? ;-) >We have not decided how we will sell this album. We may sell it as part of a special offer and include some other piece of merchandise such as clothing or some collectable (i.e. Metallica's fan can). Well, to be thematic with the album, you could distribute plastic swords and Mexican joints . . . John From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Tue Sep 10 11:06:26 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:06:26 EST Subject: Shipping date of BoH Message-ID: > Anyway I'm really happy with how it came out. It is definitely the best > Surgeons album ever and I suggest that some of you have a change of > underpants before you listen to it because, even though we tried to please > ourselves first and foremost we also kept in mind the personalities that we > have come to know (and love) here within the group. (No Hawkwind covers yet > but ya never know! Maybe the next one). > Al Al, Great hearing from ya again, and best of luck. Could you post a brief rundown of gear the band used on the record? Amps, gtrs, that sort of shit? theo From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Tue Sep 10 10:41:29 1996 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:41:29 -0400 Subject: Shipping date of BoH Message-ID: Al! Thanks for the update on BoH. Hopefully, with the bulk of the work on the new disc done, we'll see more of you online. We've missed ya! R. From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Tue Sep 10 10:41:29 1996 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:41:29 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: November gig scheduled Message-ID: In a message dated 96-09-10 09:07:46 EDT, ROBOdewd write: << I'm gettin' married July 19, 1997. >> Congratulations Dude!! Is this the same Dudette that you were going to marry on Feb 29th?? As I recall, job difficulties slowed that one down... :-( Anyway, congrats!! R. From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Tue Sep 10 12:42:00 1996 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:42:00 -0400 Subject: Shipping date of BoH Message-ID: You can't take Albert's spelling too seriously (obviously, I saw this post when everybody else did). Correct titles and names follow: 6. 'Lil Egypt Crispin Cioe (of the Uptown Horns, The Rolling Stones' Steel Wheels experience and too many other incredible credits to enumerate) plays sax; Don Fleming plays theremin John Fried and Deena Shoshkes of the Cucumbers are the people who appear on Donkey Show And of course, if you need underwear, the guitar player's bro puts the family name on a very fine line (although, confidentially, they're really made by Jockey). They may be a little pricey for what may happen to 'em...But consider yerselves warned... From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Tue Sep 10 12:42:29 1996 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:42:29 -0400 Subject: Title of New Brain Surgeons Album Message-ID: Gun is an improvement upon Joe and Helen's original sketch... i.e., there was a riff, but no real chorus, among other structural probs... I'm On Fire is a Dwight Twilley song... think we improved upon that, too..otherwise, why bother? Ya know... Yeah, for people overseas, it makes much more sense to join together rather than send individual money orders. Some people who were very organized did that for last year's Xmas offer and it worked really well. From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Tue Sep 10 12:42:32 1996 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:42:32 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: November gig scheduled Message-ID: Dudette that you were going to marry on Feb 29th??... and who was supposed to get a ring at Xmas? Sure, we'll do your wedding. Just don't expect the Macarena... DF From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Sep 10 13:32:25 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 13:32:25 -0400 Subject: Shipping date of BoH Message-ID: >Don Fleming plays theremin FYI if you don't already know - Don Fleming's band, Gumball, did a cover of BOC's "She's as Beautiful as a Foot" with Albert doing background vocals - it's on their *Revolution on Ice* CD. John Re: tBS playing at ROBO's wedding - can you get Pete Bohovesky to sing the newlyweds a "love song" in the spirit of his infamous Christmas song? From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 10 18:35:01 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 18:35:01 BST Subject: HW: Re: Like a hurricane In-Reply-To: Martyn White's message of Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:34:54 -0400 Message-ID: Martyn White writes: > just got reconnected after being hit by hurricane Fran. > welcome back! - glad to see you didn't get totally washed away. > Did I miss anything? > can't remember! The boc-list itself disappeared for 24 hours (possibly aliens sneaking in under cover of the hurricane to check us out) but I don't think you missed anything of great moment. Bernard sent a review and track lists for a couple of German gigs. Errrmmm otherwise.... cheers jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Tue Sep 10 14:55:32 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 13:55:32 EST Subject: Shipping date of BoH Message-ID: John says: > >Don Fleming plays theremin > > FYI if you don't already know - Don Fleming's band, Gumball, did a cover > of BOC's "She's as Beautiful as a Foot" with Albert doing background > vocals - it's on their *Revolution on Ice* CD. > > > John > > Re: tBS playing at ROBO's wedding - can you get Pete Bohovesky to sing > the newlyweds a "love song" in the spirit of his infamous Christmas song? Wow! A marriage made in heaven [or someplace] for sure. Congrats, Robo, wherever you are. BTW, what do you think the chances are that Billy's bro could do the tour t-shirts for tBS? theo From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Tue Sep 10 15:05:38 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:05:38 -0400 Subject: HW: Re: Like a hurricane Message-ID: Thanks jill. After the floods of the hurricane came the flood of 80+ boc-l messages. They came in reverse temporal order going back to the time of the hurricane which was kind of a weird way to read the list but otherwise fran-tastic ;-) Martyn (waiting for Hortense) From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Tue Sep 10 17:38:55 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:38:55 UT Subject: HW: 86 tour - Amon Duul III? Message-ID: I remember seeing tour posters saying "special guests Amon Duul III" (yes, three) for the 86 tour. I'd given up HW at the time (but suffered a relapse later :), and anyway I was off to America at the same time as the tour, so can anyone tell me who or what took the stage? I always assumed it was Dave Anderson and some of his mates, but that was just a guess, really... - Andy From chevelle at IO-ONLINE.COM Tue Sep 10 18:43:50 1996 From: chevelle at IO-ONLINE.COM (JOHN M. GRAY) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:43:50 -0700 Subject: Hawkwind Mind Journey Message-ID: Has anyone accually seen this bootleg LP. I've heard about it for years but I've never heard of anyone who has laid eyes on one. Thanks, John Gray From delacour at UNM.EDU Tue Sep 10 18:56:16 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 16:56:16 -0600 Subject: Bugging You In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Troy Harris wrote: > On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, jean l delacour wrote: > > > Theo; > > > > Hey, were's my Worcester '82 tape??? Going on 3 months!!!! > > > > Take care.... > > > > Manuel > > > > YEAH THEO!!! Oh, Manuel, I tried that UFO website, and it bounced me. > You sure about the address? > > Troy > > delacour at unm.edu > > > It bounced me, too!!! I'll have to triple-check the Goldmine. But, hey, the Cheap trick msg went thru to their fan club!!!! Manuel & Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Sep 10 05:00:08 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:00:08 +0100 Subject: OFF : Comic Shop Owner! In-Reply-To: <960910004856_281490462@emout13.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: In message <960910004856_281490462 at emout13.mail.aol.com>, Steven Tice writes >Sorry for not knowing there was another comic shop owner on BOC-L! Hmmm, >what does it say about BOC-L that out of however many people are on here, two >of us are comic shop owners? Hmmm.... > >SET I'd say it means we're a very cool, clued-up bunch of people actually! Knowing just how few people read comics these days, I found it very revealing that the greater percentage of people I met at the Brixton gig, were also frequent comic readers. There's definately a high degree of overlap between Hawkfans and this marginalised form of literature. I mean, less than 1% of people read comics. On BOC-L 1% of people own comicshops! In the last year comics have come up several times, Savage Henry, Roswell from Bongo, Nexus and Brainstorm off the top of my head. Plus forteana, great tips for new bands, technical support, the covers tapes etc. This list is the best thing on the 'net! -- Jon Browne From skarsol at EROLS.COM Tue Sep 10 17:21:38 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:21:38 +0000 Subject: HW: help with past uk showdate please Message-ID: please respond via private mail,if you can. hi, does anyone know the date of last(95-96)winters solstice gig at the forum in london? any help is appreciated. thanks, rj From StevenTice at AOL.COM Tue Sep 10 23:15:48 1996 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 23:15:48 -0400 Subject: OFF : Comic Shop Owner! Message-ID: Well, I have to admit that I have yet to give Hawkwind a go, and am mainly here for BOC and Brain Surgeons news. But there's obviously a significant amount of crossover between the bands, which hopefully bodes well for the Imaginos comic book project I'm still hoping to produce in the near future. The good news is that Sandy Pearlman and I had a constructive phone conversation recently about getting the project moving. Any suggestions for artists you'd like to see render the Imaginos story? Sandy's already nixed the "Image children," I'm afraid (his term)! SET From mordru at MAGG.NET Tue Sep 10 23:41:57 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 23:41:57 -0400 Subject: HW: Decide your future E.P. Message-ID: $9.99, has only four tracks, two of them different mixes of the same number, from Griffin. Said something about Astralasia on the back. Worth it? =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From mordru at MAGG.NET Wed Sep 11 01:14:22 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 01:14:22 -0400 Subject: OFF : Comic Shop Owner! Message-ID: > The good news is that Sandy Pearlman and I had a constructive phone >conversation recently about getting the project moving. Any suggestions for >artists you'd like to see render the Imaginos story? Sandy's already nixed >the "Image children," I'm afraid (his term)! Sure. But I'm sure we can't get Alex Ross right now.... Hmmm Is this going to be a color or bw comic? How many issues? Christopher Schenk is an artist I like a lot right now, primarily on his Guns of Avalon adapation (Ob:). Others, in no particular order: Jason Pearson, Stuart Immomen, Jeffrey Moy, Tim Truman.... Of course the covers should be by Melne.... =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From chevelle at IO-ONLINE.COM Wed Sep 11 02:01:36 1996 From: chevelle at IO-ONLINE.COM (JOHN M. GRAY) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 23:01:36 -0700 Subject: Comics Message-ID: So other than Savage Henry, are there any other comics that feature Hawkwind? John Gray From dahl at MAIL.AROS.NET Wed Sep 11 03:21:48 1996 From: dahl at MAIL.AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 01:21:48 -0600 Subject: OTHER: UFO Message-ID: Hey you bouncy guys, I got the correct address: http://www.i-way.co.uk/~tristang/UFO/UFO.html Maybe the problem is in the capital letters of UFO. It took me some fanagelin' to get into it. I was listening to Some Enchanted Evening at work tonight. What a great CD! Great recording, great performances. (especially the drumming, what a butt kisser I am.) Brad http://www.moosenet.com/poison.html From hje at ORA.DE Wed Sep 11 04:29:55 1996 From: hje at ORA.DE (Hans-Joerg Ehren) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:29:55 +0200 Subject: BRAIN: How to get tBS disks? Message-ID: Dear CyberBOC-Lers: German record dealers tend to be notoriously short of tBS disks... Any ideas how to get them? Hans-Joerg From etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE Wed Sep 11 09:17:03 1996 From: etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE (Rob) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 09:17:03 BST Subject: Comics Message-ID: > > So other than Savage Henry, are there any other comics that feature > Hawkwind? > > John Gray > I bought one a couple of years ago called Space Rock or something. It featured stories of Pink Floyd, Hawkwind and someone else. If I can find it I'll send details sometime. bye - Rob From mordru at MAGG.NET Wed Sep 11 08:23:06 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 08:23:06 -0400 Subject: Comics Message-ID: >> >> So other than Savage Henry, are there any other comics that feature >> Hawkwind? >> >> John Gray >> > > I bought one a couple of years ago called Space Rock or something. > It featured stories of Pink Floyd, Hawkwind and someone else. If I > can find it I'll send details sometime. Wasn't Ledge of Darkness adapted into a graphic novel with Michael Butterworth? I think Griffin was offerering it with a boxed set. If you write and ask they'll sell you most of the items in boxed set without the CD if you already have it.... +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 11 13:56:33 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:56:33 BST Subject: Hawkwind Mind Journey In-Reply-To: JOHN M. GRAY's message of Tue, 10 Sep 1996 15:43:50 -0700 Message-ID: JOHN M. GRAY writes: > Has anyone accually seen this bootleg LP. I've heard about it for years > but I've never heard of anyone who has laid eyes on one. I think this was a radio show and Brian Tawn has an acetate of it. That's the only copy anyone has ever heard of. > Thanks, > John Gray FoFP From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 11 13:58:11 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:58:11 BST Subject: Comics In-Reply-To: Rob's message of Wed, 11 Sep 1996 09:17:03 BST Message-ID: Rob writes: > > > > So other than Savage Henry, are there any other comics that feature > > Hawkwind? > > > > John Gray > > > > I bought one a couple of years ago called Space Rock or something. > It featured stories of Pink Floyd, Hawkwind and someone else. If I > can find it I'll send details sometime. > > bye - Rob I have a comic from 1973 called "Brainstorm" which contains an ad for the Space Ritual gigs. The content is freak stuff but not specifically Hawkwind related. FoFP From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Wed Sep 11 09:22:40 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:22:40 UT Subject: OFF: Amon Duul II and Porcupine Tree Message-ID: Just found out that the support act to Amon Duul at the Empire (Shpeherds Bush, London) on Saturday week (21st) is going to be Porcupine Tree. - Andy ObSingle: Moby - "That's When I Reach for My Revolver" From a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK Wed Sep 11 11:42:19 1996 From: a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK (Andrew Fergus Wilson) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 15:42:19 +0000 Subject: OFF: cool webnews for psycheads FW: Re: Bomp V96 #86 Message-ID: hi, thought this might be of interest to pscyh fans out there; also whoever mentioned buying seeds cds, yes, get them; the seeds are well, the seeds. the only ropey lp they did was 'a spoonful of seedy blues' - fairly uninspired blues covers and originalsl andrew ObMindfuckinglyGroovyTrack: the perpetual motion machine - vibrasonic ---------- > From: Menachem Turchick > To: bomp at bolis.com > posted before, Delirium Records in the UK has a simply amazing web site > at www.delerium.co.uk, which features old articles from Freakbeat > magazine and the ENTIRE texts of both of Vernon Joynson's monumental > books, "Fuzz, Acid & Flowers" and "Tapestry Of Delights"!!!! > Discographies and histories of hundreds of obscure British and American > garage, beat and psych acts! Truly a wealth of info at your fingertips. > > Menachem > mturchic at igate.iscg.pima.gov > a.wilson at derby.ac.uk "walking through heather dept of sociology "you gotta watch the weather uni of derby "when you got salt hair" gorky's zygotic mynci From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Wed Sep 11 11:47:52 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 11:47:52 -0400 Subject: Comics Message-ID: FoFP writes: >I have a comic from 1973 called "Brainstorm" which contains an ad for >the Space Ritual gigs. The content is freak stuff but not specifically >Hawkwind related. > Brainstorm comics were discussed here a week or so back. Is this the the one where Chester takes a psychedlic cocktail and his head goes "SPONG" and "FRAP"? Also I believe that someone said that there were subsequent issues and Hawkwind appear in Vol 6 Martyn Obimportantreminder: bottle of tanq for s/he who scans the SPONG and FRAP pages From Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM Wed Sep 11 11:38:02 1996 From: Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 10:38:02 -0500 Subject: Hawkwind Mind Journey Message-ID: At 01:56 PM 9/11/96 BST, you wrote: >JOHN M. GRAY writes: > >> Has anyone accually seen this bootleg LP. I've heard about it for years >> but I've never heard of anyone who has laid eyes on one. > >I think this was a radio show and Brian Tawn has an acetate of it. >That's the only copy anyone has ever heard of. I'm certain that I've seen this album whilst I was looking for the Stonehenge/Watchfield and Bottom Line LP's. It was a single album with a non-memorable cover. The recording wasn't too bad considering and I don't think it was from a radio show; the voice you hear introducing the band was one of the road crew (not sure if it was Andy Dunkley or not as I haven't got my tour programmes with me). Yours, Star Rats From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Wed Sep 11 13:04:05 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:04:05 +0200 Subject: Hawkwind Mind Journey Message-ID: Hello >It was a single album with a non-memorable cover. AFAIK the cover is plain white with no pictures, drawings or text Bernhard From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Sep 11 08:02:40 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 13:02:40 +0100 Subject: OFF : Oriental Movie Subtitles In-Reply-To: <960910231548_282268745@emout06.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: This is utterly off but it made me laugh.. [Compiled by Stefan Hammond and Mike Wilkins for their book _Sex_&_Zen_&_a_Bullet_in_the_Head_, to be published by Fireside.] These are excerpted from a list of English subtitles used in films made in Hong Kong: 1. I am damn unsatisfied to be killed in this way. 2. Fatty, you with your thick face have hurt my instep. 3. Gun wounds again? 4. Same old rules: no eyes, no groin. 5. A normal person wouldn't steal pituitaries. 6. Damn, I'll burn you into a BBQ chicken! 7. Take my advice, or I'll spank you without pants. 8. Who gave you the nerve to get killed here? 9. Quiet or I'll blow your throat up. 10. You always use violence. I should've ordered glutinous rice chicken. 11. I'll fire aimlessly if you don't come out! 12. You daring lousy guy. 13. Beat him out of recognizable shape! 14. I have been scared sh*tless too much lately. 15. I got knife scars more than the number of your leg's hair! 16. Beware! Your bones are going to be disconnected. 17. How can you use my intestines as a gift? 18. The bullets inside are very hot. Why do I feel so cold? -- Jon Browne From kenneth.drew.3 at ND.EDU Wed Sep 11 17:46:33 1996 From: kenneth.drew.3 at ND.EDU (Ken Drew) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:46:33 -0500 Subject: OFF: CD Storage Info Message-ID: Sorry for the non-BOC related note but I just purchased these and felt that you all should know about them. It solved my CD storage problems. BTW, I am just a satified customer and am passing this info along. Compact disc storage is a real pain. Jewel cases take up a ton of space and those darn wooden CD racks just are ugly. I have found a way to store more CDs in the same amount of space. PLUS they are much easier to get to and they look better! The storage unit I suggest the one made by THE CUBE. These are uniquely designed units that are stackable and hold 300 CDs with jewel cases (or with the plastic sleeves I use over 600!) The CUBE is a nice piece of furniture and you can add other CUBE components to put your stereo, vcr, tape deck, record player, albums, whatever in and have a look that is very professional- not like a dorm room (unless you like that look or live in one!) While these units are not cheap, they certainly look better and function better than the ugly CD rack. Also, the CUBE conceals your CDs in a three drawer system that features a unique design allowing you to access CDs quickly and easily. The come in several different finishes. I my opinion, they are outstanding. You can obtain a brochure by e-mailing the people at: lorentz at polaristel.net Please tell them that Ken Drew sent you. I plan to scan a picture of the CUBE in my WWW site soon. I'll post again when I do this. KEN (kdrew at nd.edu) ----------------------------------------------------------- *Webb Wilder : http://www.nd.edu/~kdrew/ * *The Beat Farmers : WWW page at: * *http://www.ucsd.edu/sdam/artists/bf/ * *Check them out today * ----------------------------------------------------------- From blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US Wed Sep 11 17:56:37 1996 From: blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US (Brad M. Lauchnor) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 15:56:37 -0600 Subject: OFF: CD Storage Info -Reply Message-ID: . BTW, I am just a satified customer and am passing this info along. >>>>>>>>>>>. With the sales pitch you gave you probably should work for them ... From delacour at UNM.EDU Wed Sep 11 18:27:13 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 16:27:13 -0600 Subject: BOC: Recording!! In-Reply-To: <960910124232_305232665@emout15.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: BOC people; Just received an e-mail from Eric Bloom and he confirms that they are in the studio rehearsing and recording as we speak. No news on which new songs will be on the disc, but he did mention that it's going to be out in the Spring of 1997 (REALLY, REALLY, REALLY!!). Also, they will play a few mid west shows in a few weeks with REO Speedwagon. Don't know exactly where in the mid-west. Does anybody know? GOd bless... Manuel(Sped)Alzaga, Jr. Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Wed Sep 11 20:21:04 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Le Monsieur) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:21:04 -0500 Subject: OFF: CD Storage Info -Reply In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Sep 1996, Brad M. Lauchnor wrote: > . BTW, I am just a satified customer and am passing this info along. > >>>>>>>>>>>. > With the sales pitch you gave you probably should work for them ... Gee, you don't think he... naaaah. :) Damon From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Wed Sep 11 22:54:47 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 21:54:47 -0500 Subject: Tilburg festival on 07.Sep.96 Message-ID: On 9-SEP-1996 11:15:38.0 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >Rob wrote of Jerry Richards: >> Isn't he also guitarist for Tubilah Dog who supported HW in '89. >I'm also in the *who is he?* camp... but if that is the guy it >leads me to ask if he's joined or simply guesting. I vaguely >remember liking Tubilah Dog who did some good Hillage and Gong >type stuff. Wasn't the guitarist a Hillage clone? If so he'd be >just the job IMO. The two TD (God Halibut backwards, in case some hadn't figured it out yet) tracks on Traveller's Aid Trust are a bit on the poppy side, but those are the only songs of their's that I've have heard. There is some synth, though, sounds kinda like Bainbridge... Was this typical of their other output? Didn't sound too Gongish at all... `[1;36;42mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From ir004728 at INTERRAMP.COM Wed Sep 11 22:06:23 1996 From: ir004728 at INTERRAMP.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 22:06:23 -0400 Subject: OFF : Comic Shop Owner! Message-ID: Steven: > The good news is that Sandy Pearlman and I had a constructive phone >conversation recently about getting the project moving. Any suggestions for >artists you'd like to see render the Imaginos story? Sandy's already nixed That's great. Anything to get Sandy out of his funk. How about Corbin? Has he done anything lately? (Maybe for the Magna segment?) Al From ir004728 at INTERRAMP.COM Wed Sep 11 22:06:45 1996 From: ir004728 at INTERRAMP.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 22:06:45 -0400 Subject: Shipping date of BoH Message-ID: >On 10 Sep 96 at 0:09, Sonique wrote: > >> 14. St Vitus Dance > >Just an idle question ... is this an original, or a cover of one of >the previous incarnations of tracks of this name? This is my original written with Helen Wheels about twenty years ago. It was recorded by Helen Wheels and the Dictators at that time but never released. Deborah revamped the lyrics and we streamlined the arrangement and that's the version that's on our new record. Al From ir004728 at INTERRAMP.COM Wed Sep 11 22:07:24 1996 From: ir004728 at INTERRAMP.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 22:07:24 -0400 Subject: BOC sets Message-ID: > a few months ago Ken asks: >I haven't seen it on tape - perhaps Bolle has. If Albert's out there, >perhaps he could elaborate on how often BOC did Highway Star? I really don't remember doing this song outside the dressing so if someone has it it's extremely rare. Al From ir004728 at INTERRAMP.COM Wed Sep 11 22:06:53 1996 From: ir004728 at INTERRAMP.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 22:06:53 -0400 Subject: Shipping date of BoH Message-ID: On 10/10/96 Theo wrote: >Great hearing from ya again, and best of luck. Could you post a >brief rundown of gear the band used on the record? Amps, gtrs, that >sort of shit? Billy used a 1995 Les Paul Classic Anniversary and a 1993 American Strat Classic, a 1994 Rickenbacker 12 string, and a 1967 SG and also a 1977 Takamine acoustic, He used a Dunlop Jimi Hendrix model Wah, a Boogie Mark V, a pre-CBS blackface Deluxe, pre-CBS blackface Tremolux, a '70s Marshall 100 and a Carvin Clubmaster 12" Pete used a 1990 Jackson and a 1967 SG, a 1993 SG, a 1977 Takamine acoustic and a 1994 Ibanez 12 string acoustic, He used a Boogie Mark V, Deborah's pre-CBS blackface Tremolux, a 1995 Fender ProJunior, and a Carvin Clubmaster 12" I used my usual early 80s Slingerland kit with my 1979 Ludwig Black Beauty snare, except for Date and Laura's where I used a TAMA 8x14 maple snare. I used only Zildjian cymbals but I did also use a Pete Engehart 14" Ribbon Crasher (Laura's) and Rico Rico (Earthquake Boogie and IN) and a RhythmTech hat-trick . For guitars I only used my 69 Les Paul, my 60s Silvertone, the 1994 Rickenbacker 12 string, and my 1977 Takimine. I used the Carvin, the ProJunior and the Roland SE-50. I played Billy's cheapo banjo and of course the legendary albertron. I used my 60s Senator Alto sax and all kinds of percussion stuff. Tara Key, Don Fleming and Jack Rigg all used the Fender Pro Junior. Tara & Don used my 69 Les Paul. Jack Rigg used a 1989 Fender Eric Clapton model Strat. Tara used a small army of DOD effects boxes. Don and Jack used none. Don also used an off-brand theremin that he got in Tennesee. Crispin Cioe played Selmer Baritone and Tenor Saxes. Flip Barnes used a Selmer trumpet and a Harmon mute. Joe and Dave Dunton used the E-Mu piano and Classic Keys modules and Joe also used the Roland Sound Canvas on Tender Was The Night. All vocals were recorded with a mid-60s Neumann U87 and Deborah used a wooden 80s Alpine clarinette. I'm leaving all the studio gear out but you did say "brief." Al From skarsol at EROLS.COM Wed Sep 11 21:58:24 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:58:24 +0000 Subject: HW: Decide your future E.P. Message-ID: Andrew A. Apold wrote: > > $9.99, has only four tracks, two of them different mixes > of the same number, from Griffin. Said something > about Astralasia on the back. Worth it? > > ===================================if i were to recommend ANY of the remix/ep's,this would be it. i bought it,i dont regret it. nuff said? rj From pookadad at DELTANET.COM Thu Sep 12 02:42:24 1996 From: pookadad at DELTANET.COM (Michael G Karschner) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 23:42:24 -0700 Subject: HW:Hawkwind Album and song titles Message-ID: Hi! I hope some of you knowledgable Hawkwind fans out there can help me. So that I could see what HW sounded like, a friend dubbed me a tape that someone had given to her. Unfortunately, she didn't had neither the album title nor song titles for it. I don't even know if it was an actual album, or if someone made a compilation of songs for her. Anyway, I'll list some of the song lyrics (that I could understand), and maybe someone will know the album/song titles. One of the songs with vocals had the following lyrics: "I've got this fascination....(repeated several times)...LEVITATION!" Another had: "Who's gonna win the war, now...who's gonna win the war?" The very first song (and the one I hope I can get the title for, because I really like it, and it keeps running through my head), had the following lyrics: I crept up on my daybed, and looked down on my town. I saw a shrinking violet, and crushed it into the ground. And I'm never gonna tell you why. I got my face in the furnace , I got my feet in the , I got drowned in a bowl of cereal, And I have to ask you to leave. And I'm never gonna tell you why. ...and it sounds like a that just won't go. ...and I'm standing on the edge of Mars... I'll see you around, baby I'd really appreciate it if someone could tell me the name of that song. Thanks in advance! :D -- Mike From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Thu Sep 12 03:09:38 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:09:38 +0200 Subject: HW:Hawkwind Album and song titles Message-ID: At 23:42 1996-09-11 -0700, you wrote: >Hi! I hope some of you knowledgable Hawkwind fans out there can help >me. So that I could see what HW sounded like, a friend dubbed me a tape >that someone had given to her. Unfortunately, she didn't had neither >the album title nor song titles for it. I don't even know if it was an >actual album, or if someone made a compilation of songs for her. >Anyway, I'll list some of the song lyrics (that I could understand), and >maybe someone will know the album/song titles. > >One of the songs with vocals had the following lyrics: "I've got this >fascination....(repeated several times)...LEVITATION!" Another had: >"Who's gonna win the war, now...who's gonna win the war?" both is from _Levitation_ from 1980, containing som very good drumming from long ;0) time hw member Ginger Baker. tracklist is: Levitation Motorway City Psychosis (spacey sounds) World of Tiers (rocky instrumental) Prelude (short instr. intro to the following) Who's Gonna Win the War Space Chase (rocky instrumental) The Fifth Second of Forever (first some gently picked guitar notes, then rock with lyrics, then back to the gently instrumental) Dust of Time if she'd choosen this album for your first hw impression, she did a *very* good choice. >The very first song (and the one I hope I can get the title for, because >I really like it, and it keeps running through my head), had the >following lyrics: > > I crept up on my daybed, > and looked down on my town. > I saw a shrinking violet, > and crushed it into the ground. > And I'm never gonna tell you why. > > I got my face in the furnace , > I got my feet in the , > I got drowned in a bowl of cereal, > And I have to ask you to leave. > And I'm never gonna tell you why. > > > ...and it sounds like a that just won't go. > > ...and I'm standing on the edge of Mars... > > > > I'll see you around, baby > >I'd really appreciate it if someone could tell me the name of that >song. Thanks in advance! :D -- Mike sorry - I cannot recall this lyrics - is it is the same style as Levitation and Who's Gonna Win..? \\joe From mumford at EUNET.NO Thu Sep 12 04:15:07 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:15:07 +0200 Subject: Comics Message-ID: JOHN M. GRAY wrote: > > So other than Savage Henry, are there any other comics that feature > Hawkwind? > > John Gray Well, I'm working on some as we speak! No publisher though, so I don't know if they'll see the light of day for awhile.... Christian From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 12 09:10:53 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:10:53 BST Subject: HW:Hawkwind Album and song titles In-Reply-To: Michael G Karschner's message of Wed, 11 Sep 1996 23:42:24 -0700 Message-ID: Michael G Karschner writes: > Hi! I hope some of you knowledgable Hawkwind fans out there can help > me. So that I could see what HW sounded like, a friend dubbed me a tape > that someone had given to her. Unfortunately, she didn't had neither > the album title nor song titles for it. I don't even know if it was an > actual album, or if someone made a compilation of songs for her. > Anyway, I'll list some of the song lyrics (that I could understand), and > maybe someone will know the album/song titles. > > One of the songs with vocals had the following lyrics: "I've got this > fascination....(repeated several times)...LEVITATION!" Another had: > "Who's gonna win the war, now...who's gonna win the war?" These are both from the Hawkwind album "Levitation". The tracks are, yep, you guessed it, "Levitation" and "Who's Gonna Win The War?". The latter track was released as a charity 7" single with the proceeds going to the Campaign For Nuclear Disarmament. > The very first song (and the one I hope I can get the title for, because > I really like it, and it keeps running through my head), had the > following lyrics: > > I crept up on my daybed, > and looked down on my town. > I saw a shrinking violet, > and crushed it into the ground. > And I'm never gonna tell you why. > > I got my face in the furnace , > I got my feet in the , > I got drowned in a bowl of cereal, > And I have to ask you to leave. > And I'm never gonna tell you why. > > > ...and it sounds like a that just won't go. > > ...and I'm standing on the edge of Mars... > > > > I'll see you around, baby > > I'd really appreciate it if someone could tell me the name of that > song. I'm certain that this isn't a Hawkwind song. Maybe it's by Turner or someone? FoFP From mumford at EUNET.NO Thu Sep 12 04:17:31 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:17:31 +0200 Subject: Comics Message-ID: Rob wrote: > > > > > So other than Savage Henry, are there any other comics that feature > > Hawkwind? > > > > John Gray > > > > I bought one a couple of years ago called Space Rock or something. > It featured stories of Pink Floyd, Hawkwind and someone else. If I > can find it I'll send details sometime. > > bye - Rob Oh, please if you find more then one copy, or if you have any details on publisher etc., I'm much interested as well. Christian From mumford at EUNET.NO Thu Sep 12 04:29:48 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:29:48 +0200 Subject: HW:Hawkwind Album and song titles Message-ID: Michael G Karschner wrote: > > Hi! I hope some of you knowledgable Hawkwind fans out there can help > me. So that I could see what HW sounded like, a friend dubbed me a tape > that someone had given to her. Unfortunately, she didn't had neither > the album title nor song titles for it. I don't even know if it was an > actual album, or if someone made a compilation of songs for her. > Anyway, I'll list some of the song lyrics (that I could understand), and > maybe someone will know the album/song titles. > > One of the songs with vocals had the following lyrics: "I've got this > fascination....(repeated several times)...LEVITATION!" Another had: > "Who's gonna win the war, now...who's gonna win the war?" > Those songs are off the 1979 album, 'Levitation', and, are called (obviously!) 'Levitation' and 'Whose Gonna Win the War?'... > The very first song (and the one I hope I can get the title for, because > I really like it, and it keeps running through my head), had the > following lyrics: > > I crept up on my daybed, > and looked down on my town. > I saw a shrinking violet, > and crushed it into the ground. > And I'm never gonna tell you why. > > I got my face in the furnace , > I got my feet in the , > I got drowned in a bowl of cereal, > And I have to ask you to leave. > And I'm never gonna tell you why. > > > ...and it sounds like a that just won't go. > > ...and I'm standing on the edge of Mars... > > > > I'll see you around, baby > > I'd really appreciate it if someone could tell me the name of that > song. Thanks in advance! :D -- Mike That's Monster Magnet, not Hawkwind! The song is 'Dead Christmas'. But, Monster Magnet are very influenced by Hawkwind, particularly on the album which that track appeared, 'Dopes to Infinity' (1995).... Both great albums IMHO. Christian From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Thu Sep 12 05:58:42 1996 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (Mike Wright) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:58:42 +0100 Subject: HW: 86 tour - Amon Duul III? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Sep 1996, Andrew Gilham wrote: > I remember seeing tour posters saying "special guests Amon Duul III" (yes, > three) for the 86 tour. I'd given up HW at the time (but suffered a relapse > later :), and anyway I was off to America at the same time as the tour, so can > anyone tell me who or what took the stage? I always assumed it was Dave > Anderson and some of his mates, but that was just a guess, really... It was no incarnation of AD, I remember seeing this advertised for a gig in St. Albans, and trying to think back on which supports I saw there I guess it might have been the Babysitters, a fine trash/glam rock band with the best lyrics ever, with song titles like 'Some girls are bigger than others', and 'Pickin the blues' It's not the things she does, It's not the things she says, I just love her for the way she picks her nose. and others, including Rock'n'Roll chicken. ("roll'n'roll chicken sitting on my head" repeat indefinitely) However I fear this has veered widley from your rather innocent enquiry into the realms of stupidity, so I'll stop. Mike w From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 12 11:05:45 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 11:05:45 BST Subject: OFF: CD Storage Info -Reply In-Reply-To: Le Monsieur's message of Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:21:04 -0500 Message-ID: Le Monsieur writes: > On Wed, 11 Sep 1996, Brad M. Lauchnor wrote: > > . BTW, I am just a satified customer and am passing this info along. > > >>>>>>>>>>>. > > With the sales pitch you gave you probably should work for them ... > Gee, you don't think he... naaaah. :) > Selling something called the Cube? Sounds more like the borg have finally arrived. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Sep 12 07:36:10 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:36:10 +0100 Subject: OFF: CD Storage Info -Reply In-Reply-To: from "Le Monsieur" at Sep 11, 96 07:21:04 pm Message-ID: And just to throw in my 2d, having seen the beasts in question I have to say I still prefer shelves. I've got several shelves on CDs right at the back of my desk, with the stereo on one side--all within easy arms reach. Can't be improved on :) However, should anyone wish to purchase my amazing system I'll consider reasonable offers. I'm not a customer, just a satisfied "CD-ergonomics engineer". Later on, I might take a picture of my sock-filing system and put it on my web page. Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of ASNAC Studies, Cambridge U. * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Thu Sep 12 08:07:58 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 08:07:58 -0400 Subject: Shipping date of BoH Message-ID: Al: Thanks for that rather "brief" listing of the equipment used, but hey, you forgot the most important (IMHO) stuff - THE BASS! So what did Dave H. use on the album? And, BTW, how come bro. Joe didn't do any bass work? Since BOC, he's seemed to have concentrated more on keyboards (like in Deadringer) than bass - does he sort of feel that bass is not really his "main" instrument anymore, or is it just that he's filling more needed roles (since tBS don't have a regular keyboard player?) when he guests on your albums? John From mumford at EUNET.NO Thu Sep 12 10:29:23 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 16:29:23 +0200 Subject: OFF: Black Cardigans Message-ID: Has anybody heard the bizarre version of Sabbath's "Iron Man" by the Cardigans? Imagine a mellow, easy-listening version with a frail female voice singing the song in a weird, understated melancholy way... Apparantly they did a version of "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" as well, but I haven't heard that one... weird, weird. Christian From mordru at MAGG.NET Thu Sep 12 10:31:58 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:31:58 -0400 Subject: OFF : Comic Shop Owner! Message-ID: >Steven: >> The good news is that Sandy Pearlman and I had a constructive phone >>conversation recently about getting the project moving. Any suggestions for >>artists you'd like to see render the Imaginos story? Sandy's already nixed > >That's great. Anything to get Sandy out of his funk. How about Corbin? Has >he done anything lately? (Maybe for the Magna segment?) Magna.... heh. get a japanese artist. Manga Magna! +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Thu Sep 12 11:26:45 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 17:26:45 +0200 Subject: OFF: Black Cardigans Message-ID: At 16:29 1996-09-12 +0200, you wrote: >Has anybody heard the bizarre version of Sabbath's "Iron Man" by the >Cardigans? Imagine a mellow, easy-listening version with a frail female >voice singing the song in a weird, understated melancholy way... >Apparantly they did a version of "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" as well, but I >haven't heard that one... weird, weird. sabbath bloody sabbath by cardigan is a very cool laidback and 'near pop' version of the old anthem - sounds like they have done a similar "Iron Man". I really like the SBS version, and it's not only because it's so completely different. btw, is there anyone who had heard the swedish cult orchestra Mobile Whorehouse's rap'n'metal version of "Iron (Wo)Man" with some bizarre additional lyrics? Quite odd... >Christian \\joe From stayer at PI.NET Thu Sep 12 04:09:13 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:09:13 PDT Subject: BOC: Recording!! Message-ID: > Just received an e-mail from Eric Bloom and he confirms that they are in >the studio rehearsing and recording as we speak. No news on which new songs >will be on the disc, but he did mention that it's going to be out in the >Spring of 1997 (REALLY, REALLY, REALLY!!). > Also, they will play a few mid west shows in a few weeks with REO >Speedwagon. Don't know exactly where in the mid-west. Does anybody know? And what does EB know about European shows?! Jerry "Still Whining" From stayer at PI.NET Thu Sep 12 04:07:36 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 01:07:36 PDT Subject: OFF: CD Storage Info Message-ID: Ken admitted: >Compact disc storage is a real pain. Jewel cases take up a ton of space and >those darn wooden CD racks just are ugly. I have found a way to store more >CDs in the same amount of space. PLUS they are much easier to get to and >they look better! Hm, I have nothing but shelves. Works fine. Works even better when you have a Cube filled, and want to insert a new CD you just bought while trying to keep your CDs on alphabetical order... :-) Jerry From Christopher.Stier at LEXIS-NEXIS.COM Thu Sep 12 08:36:00 1996 From: Christopher.Stier at LEXIS-NEXIS.COM (Stier, Christopher) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 08:36:00 -0400 Subject: OFF : Comic Shop Owner! Message-ID: Steven: > The good news is that Sandy Pearlman and I had a constructive phone >conversation recently about getting the project moving. Any suggestions for >artists you'd like to see render the Imaginos story? Sandy's already nixed How about Craig P. Russell, the guy who did those Elric comics a while back? Chris From pookadad at DELTANET.COM Thu Sep 12 11:44:45 1996 From: pookadad at DELTANET.COM (Michael G Karschner) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 08:44:45 -0700 Subject: HW:Hawkwind Album and song titles Message-ID: Christian Mumford wrote: > > That's Monster Magnet, not Hawkwind! The song is 'Dead Christmas'. But, > Monster Magnet are very influenced by Hawkwind, particularly on the > album which that track appeared, 'Dopes to Infinity' (1995).... > Thanks, Christian! I really like that song, but thought it sounded somewhat different (more "alternative") than the rest of the songs ("Levitation" album). I hope I can find the "Dopes to Infinity" CD. -- Mike From pookadad at DELTANET.COM Thu Sep 12 11:41:58 1996 From: pookadad at DELTANET.COM (Michael G Karschner) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 08:41:58 -0700 Subject: HW:Hawkwind Album and song titles Message-ID: Johan Edlundh wrote: > > > both is from _Levitation_ from 1980, containing som very good drumming >from long ;0) time hw member Ginger Baker. > > tracklist is: > Levitation > Motorway City > Psychosis (spacey sounds) > World of Tiers (rocky instrumental) > Prelude (short instr. intro to the following) > Who's Gonna Win the War > Space Chase (rocky instrumental) > The Fifth Second of Forever (first some gently picked guitar notes, > then rock with lyrics, then back to the gently instrumental) > Dust of Time > > if she'd choosen this album for your first hw impression, she did a > *very* good choice. > Thanks, Johan, the description of the tracklist sounds right! And for that first song, Christian says it's not HW, but Monster Magnet. -- Mike From skarsol at EROLS.COM Thu Sep 12 09:25:20 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 13:25:20 +0000 Subject: HW:Hawkwind Album and song titles Message-ID: mike- the first two songs are levitation and who's gonna win the war-from album levitation. the last is "dead christmas" from monster magnet's 'dopes to infinity' rj From khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU Thu Sep 12 15:36:53 1996 From: khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Keith A Henderson) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 15:36:53 -0400 Subject: HW:Hawkwind Album and Monster Magnet In-Reply-To: <32382FED.2D0B@deltanet.com> from "Michael G Karschner" at Sep 12, 96 08:44:45 am Message-ID: Hey Mike... > > Christian Mumford wrote: > > > > That's Monster Magnet, not Hawkwind! The song is 'Dead Christmas'. But, > > Monster Magnet are very influenced by Hawkwind, particularly on the > > album which that track appeared, 'Dopes to Infinity' (1995).... > > > > Thanks, Christian! I really like that song, but thought it sounded > somewhat different (more "alternative") than the rest of the songs > ("Levitation" album). I hope I can find the "Dopes to Infinity" CD. I've got a spare CD copy of said MM album...would you like to trade for it, or if you've nothing to trade, purchase it for a modest price ($6 or so). I'd even accept a couple of cassettes of something cool you might have that I haven't heard. If interested, contact me via personal e-mail, and we can work something out. Send me a list of some things you have if you want. Keith H. khenders at magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu PS. Are you in the US?? That would make shipping easier. From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Thu Sep 12 16:31:10 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:31:10 +0200 Subject: HW: Trivia File Addendum Message-ID: The Dawn of Hawkwind cover is penned by the famous covermaker Roger Dean. It is originally made for the soundtrack of Roman Polanski's movie of Macbeth. (it's the three witches scene at the beginning of the play...) \\joe From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Sep 12 04:44:52 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:44:52 +0100 Subject: OFF : Comic Shop Owner! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Albert T Bouchard writes >How about Corbin? Has >he done anything lately? (Maybe for the Magna segment?) >Al He's doing Den agin for Penthouse Comix at the moment, so he's not tooo busy. The long-awaited "Denz" starts in the Sept issue. -- Jon Browne From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Thu Sep 12 18:42:09 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:42:09 UT Subject: Trivia File Addendum Message-ID: >The Dawn of Hawkwind cover is penned by the famous covermaker Roger >Dean. > >It is originally made for the soundtrack of Roman Polanski's movie of >Macbeth. >(it's the three witches scene at the beginning of the play...) That was the 1972 Third Ear Band album, featuring Simon House, on Harvest, n'est-ce pas... "Dawn of" is a bootleg, isn't it, so I guess they bootlegged the cover art too! - Andy From delacour at UNM.EDU Thu Sep 12 19:38:32 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 17:38:32 -0600 Subject: BOC: Recording!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Sep 1996, Jerry wrote: > > Just received an e-mail from Eric Bloom and he confirms that they are in > >the studio rehearsing and recording as we speak. No news on which new > songs > >will be on the disc, but he did mention that it's going to be out in the > >Spring of 1997 (REALLY, REALLY, REALLY!!). > > Also, they will play a few mid west shows in a few weeks with REO > >Speedwagon. Don't know exactly where in the mid-west. Does anybody know? > > And what does EB know about European shows?! > > Jerry "Still Whining" > No Europe shows planned for this year. The CD is their main priority at this point, but you never know with BOC. Manuel & Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From ir004728 at INTERRAMP.COM Thu Sep 12 19:47:04 1996 From: ir004728 at INTERRAMP.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:47:04 -0400 Subject: Shipping date of BoH Message-ID: John: >Thanks for that rather "brief" listing of the equipment used, but hey, >you forgot the most important (IMHO) stuff - THE BASS! So what did >Dave H. use on the album? Oh must because his equipment was really, in fact, brief. Dave used a 1993 Guild Pilot 4 String Bass. No amp was used but the pre-amp was an ART TUBE MP and we did use an SPX900 chorus on a few songs And, BTW, how come bro. Joe didn't do any >bass work? Since BOC, he's seemed to have concentrated more on keyboards >(like in Deadringer) than bass - does he sort of feel that bass is not >really his "main" instrument anymore, or is it just that he's filling >more needed roles (since tBS don't have a regular keyboard player?) when >he guests on your albums? He has sat in on bass a couple times but for us we've need the other instruments more. In our high school band Joe was lead guitar and piano. He also played keys in BOC, especially on demos. Al From StevenTice at AOL.COM Thu Sep 12 23:25:19 1996 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:25:19 -0400 Subject: BOC : Imaginos Comic and Reaper MIDI Message-ID: Hi, BOC-L folks. Let's get caught up on a couple of things. First off, thanks for the suggestions I've received so far for Imaginos artists. Richard Corben has popped up in Penthouse Comics recently, so he's still plugging around. I'm really not sure what he'd think of a project like this, but Albert's implied suggestion that different artists render different parts of the story is an intriguing one. It would certainly be appropriate, given the nature of the main character, to have different artists for the different chapters of his life, the different characters that he's been. It'd probably be a logistical nightmare, but it's something I'm now considering (thanks for the idea, Albert!). P. Craig Russell might be more likely than Corben to be willing and available, particularly considering that I already have a relationship with Craig dating from an interview I did with him for Musings #3. He's really, really busy, though (working on a new Elric series, most recently--the advance artwork is gorgeous!). I'm keeping all suggestions in mind, and welcome any further suggestions for artists for this project. Now, the second order of business. About a week ago, somebody posted looking for MIDI files. I replied, suggesting that I might soon have time to create a few. I'm not familiar with Hawkwind, so all I could really create is BOC files, and I prefer to have some sheet music to go by as a starting point. Amidst finishing up the Musings Magic Special, I've found the time to create a Reaper MIDI in the past week, to give everyone interested an idea of what I might create. I used the Cult Classic guitar sheet music book as the basis for this file. I will have to transcribe the bass and drum lines from the original before adding them, as they are not included in the sheet music book. I've decided to go ahead and post it as is rather than finish it now, and to instead ask everyone what you'd prefer to see: the rhythm section from Cult Classic, or the vintage Bouchard Brothers version? As soon as the Musings Magic Special is put to bed, I'll get to work transcribing the chosen rhythm section so that I can enter it in the MIDI file. Let me know what you'd like to see! Hopefully the Reaper file is attached to this message in a usable format; I'm still somewhat new to both MIDI files and AOL protocol. It might turn out you need the Cakewalk program to read this file or something. Note: rather than end Reaper with the fade-out, I opted to create an ending. Let me know what you think! Thanks, all! SET -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I should have went into the vinyl room instead, I suppose :0) Yes, "Dawn of" is a boot. >- Andy \\joe From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Sep 11 13:15:25 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:15:25 +0100 Subject: OFF : Comics In-Reply-To: <9609111547.AA10060@borg.med.ecu.edu> Message-ID: In message <9609111547.AA10060 at borg.med.ecu.edu>, Martyn White writes >Obimportantreminder: bottle of tanq for s/he who scans the SPONG >and FRAP pages No time right now, but I'm on the case. Why am I reminded of the movie Logan's Run, the scene at the end with Logan/Michael York's head on loads of monitors all saying "there is no Tanqaray" at varying speeds? -- Jon Browne From spacy at TELEPORT.COM Fri Sep 13 03:02:14 1996 From: spacy at TELEPORT.COM (Baron Bloom) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 00:02:14 -0700 Subject: OFF:cd storege/sculpture Message-ID: I highly suggest making your own cd storage systems. I started making one and it turned into an interesting sculpture, next is speaker stands with lights and some techtrippinesses relief. ,BB http://www.teleport.com/~spacy/ ------------------------------- spacy at teleport.com (Baron Bloom) From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Fri Sep 13 04:11:29 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:11:29 +0200 Subject: OFF:cd storege/sculpture Message-ID: At 00:02 1996-09-13 -0700, you wrote: > I highly suggest making your own cd storage systems. I started >making one and it turned into an interesting sculpture, next is speaker >stands with lights and some techtrippinesses relief. > > ,BB ...and serious kollektors should buy used furniture from record stores that's into an upgrade process - strongly recommended. \\joe From mumford at EUNET.NO Fri Sep 13 04:19:15 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:19:15 +0200 Subject: was OFF: Black Cardigans (now Iron Man!) Message-ID: Johan Edlundh wrote: > > At 16:29 1996-09-12 +0200, you wrote: > >Has anybody heard the bizarre version of Sabbath's "Iron Man" by the > >Cardigans? Imagine a mellow, easy-listening version with a frail female > >voice singing the song in a weird, understated melancholy way... > >Apparantly they did a version of "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" as well, but I > >haven't heard that one... weird, weird. > > sabbath bloody sabbath by cardigan is a very cool laidback and 'near pop' version of the old anthem - sounds like they have done a similar "Iron Man". I really > > btw, is there anyone who had heard the swedish cult orchestra Mobile Whorehouse's rap'n'metal version of "Iron (Wo)Man" with some bizarre additional lyrics? Qu > > >Christian > > \\joe Or what about the Butthole Surfer's insane acid-drenched speed industrial goof "No, I'm Iron Man".... It opens with a robotic voice "I am Iron Man..." and this high pitched, smurf-voice goes "No, I'm Iron Man, you _always_ get to be Iron Man".... after that, get ready to lose your mind. Christian From ROBOdewd at AOL.COM Fri Sep 13 08:03:14 1996 From: ROBOdewd at AOL.COM (ROBOdewd at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 08:03:14 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: November gig scheduled Message-ID: In a message dated 96-09-10 12:45:35 EDT, you write: << and who was supposed to get a ring at Xmas? Sure, we'll do your wedding. Just don't expect the Macarena... DF >> damn!!!!!!! You guys don't do the Macadamia??? yeah, it's the same lil lady that got the ring on Xmas of 95... ROBO From HELLERS at A1.MGH.HARVARD.EDU Fri Sep 13 09:37:00 1996 From: HELLERS at A1.MGH.HARVARD.EDU (Scott Heller (617) 724-7762) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 08:37:00 -0500 Subject: HW:massive storage Message-ID: When the subject of storage comes up, I need to interject. I have yet to find a good way to store all my cassettes. It would appear that there are several people on the list which have over 1000 tapes. What do you do with them? I feelthe need to make a piece of custon furniture is the only way to go. My problem is I am over 4000 tapes now and nowhere organized to put them... Scott ObCs Spacious Mind- Organic Mind Soultion From halligbt at BIGVAX.ALFRED.EDU Fri Sep 13 11:42:19 1996 From: halligbt at BIGVAX.ALFRED.EDU (BRIAN HALLIGAN) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:42:19 EST Subject: was OFF: Black Cardigans (now Iron Man!) Message-ID: >Johan Edlundh wrote: >> >> At 16:29 1996-09-12 +0200, you wrote: >> >Has anybody heard the bizarre version of Sabbath's "Iron Man" by the >> >Cardigans? Imagine a mellow, easy-listening version with a frail female >> >voice singing the song in a weird, understated melancholy way... >> >Apparantly they did a version of "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" as well, but I >> >haven't heard that one... weird, weird. >> >> sabbath bloody sabbath by cardigan is a very cool laidback and 'near pop' version of the old anthem - sounds like they have done a similar "Iron Man". I really >> >> btw, is there anyone who had heard the swedish cult orchestra Mobile Whorehouse's rap'n'metal version of "Iron (Wo)Man" with some bizarre additional lyrics? Qu >> >> >Christian >> >> \\joe >Or what about the Butthole Surfer's insane acid-drenched speed >industrial goof "No, I'm Iron Man".... It opens with a robotic voice "I >am Iron Man..." and this high pitched, smurf-voice goes "No, I'm Iron >Man, you _always_ get to be Iron Man".... after that, get ready to lose >your mind. > >Christian Then there's the Surfer's take on Sweet Leaf..."Sweet Loaf". It's somewhat recognizable, but it sounds more like Black Sabbath on drugs... oh, wait a second. Anyway, it's a fun take on the song. Brian From ljeste01 at MOREHEAD-ST.EDU Fri Sep 13 11:14:13 1996 From: ljeste01 at MOREHEAD-ST.EDU (Larry Estep) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 11:14:13 -0400 Subject: OFF: CD Storage Info In-Reply-To: Message-ID: LURK MODE OFF It's pretty spooky that this topic should show up now. CD storage has been a problem for me, too. As someone mentioned, the racks are ugly and they take up a lot of space that I just don't have. I had CDs stacked on every flat surface near the CD player. In an attempt to organize them, I started using the lids from the paper boxes we use at work. I could get three rows of about 25 CDs each in one of these. I started thinking about stacking them in the box lids, but the weight would be on the CDs below and they tended to flop around some, so that probably wouldn't be a good idea. Besides, it would be a real pain to get to the ones at the bottom. Too bad I couldn't pull them out like drawers. .... Hmmmmmm! Drawers! A CD chest that only takes up a section of floor space about 2' x 2' could have about 8 drawers and store at least 800 CDs! I think have somewhere between 600 and 700. This would take care of what I have now and leave room for future expansion. I'm fairly mechanically inclined. I do all of my own automotive work and computer work. Surely I can build a simple piece of furniture. I ran into a few snags, but overall it went well. My biggest problem was that I couldn't run a saw in a straight line. I eventually called a friend who was into woodworking and had him cut all of the boards using a radial arm saw. I also got him to run a router around the drawer fronts and the top of the cabinet to give them a classier appearance. Using the right tools makes a HUGE difference! I originally planned for the drawers to be 16 inches deep. After I got the first one together, I realised that the rails the the drawer rides in will only travel 11 inches. This will leave 5 inches of the drawer inside of the cabinet. Any CDs in that area would be a real pain to get to. So I moved the backs of the drawers in 5 inches. I lost a lot of space due to this, but I still get 92 (or was it 96?) CDs per drawer. The cabinet isn't as sturdy as I expected and wants to lean to the left slightly. I'm going to add some braces inside the cabinet which should correct this. I also still need to stain it...that should be an adventure! All together, counting the wood, the hardware, and the stain, I have around $200 and a weekend (so far) of work in this thing. But I think it was worth it. It looks decent and I can store all of my CDs conveniently in a small area. I've never done anything like this before, so I probably did several things wrong. I even caught and corrected some of them! :) Anyone who wants to discuss it further or wants details on how I did it can send me email at ljeste01 at morehead-st.edu. Larry obCD: Motorhead -- 1916 LURK MODE ON -- .sig-less and proud of it! From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Fri Sep 13 11:31:47 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 11:31:47 -0400 Subject: BOC : Imaginos Comic and Reaper MIDI Message-ID: SET writes: > >--PART.BOUNDARY.0.848.emout06.mail.aol.com.842585118 >Content-ID: <0_848_842585118 at emout06.mail.aol.com.17519> >Content-type: application/octet-stream; > name="REAPER.WRK" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > >Q0FLRVdBTEsaAAIKAgAAAHgAA1kAAADwNgEAACwBAN8tAQAAAAAAAAABAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAA >AAEBAf//AdsAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASBAgAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZDEBAP4AAAAAAAAA (~350 lines of garbage deleted) What does this mean and why have you included it in your (otherwise OK) posting??? M From jmlofft at BUFFNET.NET Fri Sep 13 06:51:28 1996 From: jmlofft at BUFFNET.NET (Joseph M. Lofft) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:51:28 GMT Subject: Midi Files Message-ID: To: Steven Tice Re: Midi Files How about saving the midi files in standard .MID format instead of Cakewalk format .WRK for those of us that dont have Cakewalk. Thanks Joe From Christopher.Stier at LEXIS-NEXIS.COM Fri Sep 13 09:05:00 1996 From: Christopher.Stier at LEXIS-NEXIS.COM (Stier, Christopher) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 09:05:00 -0400 Subject: OFF: Black Cardigans Message-ID: >Has anybody heard the bizarre version of Sabbath's "Iron Man" by the >Cardigans? Imagine a mellow, easy-listening version with a frail female >voice singing the song in a weird, understated melancholy way... >Apparantly they did a version of "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" as well, but I >haven't heard that one... weird, weird. >Christian Along the same lines but not quite, does anyone know the name of the band that did a song called 'Santa Claus' to the tune of 'Iron Man'? Lyrics of note went: "Leave me cookies and beer and I'll be at your house first next year." Ok, ok, back to lurker mode. Chris From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Fri Sep 13 12:08:15 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 12:08:15 -0400 Subject: BOC : Imaginos Comic and Reaper MIDI In-Reply-To: <9609131531.AA17778@borg.med.ecu.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Martyn White wrote: > >--PART.BOUNDARY.0.848.emout06.mail.aol.com.842585118 > >Content-ID: <0_848_842585118 at emout06.mail.aol.com.17519> > >Content-type: application/octet-stream; > > name="REAPER.WRK" > >Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > > > >Q0FLRVdBTEsaAAIKAgAAAHgAA1kAAADwNgEAACwBAN8tAQAAAAAAAAABAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAA > >AAEBAf//AdsAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASBAgAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZDEBAP4AAAAAAAAA > > (~350 lines of garbage deleted) > > What does this mean and why have you included it in your (otherwise OK) > posting??? It is the MIDI file he mentioned in his posting, encoded so it could be sent through e-mail. Since you saw it as "garbage," I take it your mail reader doesn't understand MIME. Sorry. I hope this helps, Paul. obCD: The Mothers of Invention, _Burnt Weeny Sandwich_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From gary at METALITHIC.COM Fri Sep 13 12:21:49 1996 From: gary at METALITHIC.COM (Gary Wingert) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 09:21:49 -0700 Subject: HW: Cover Tapes Project, revisited Message-ID: Total embarrassment here - received mail from the U.S. contact on these tapes a few days ago, and cannot for the life of me find your address and cost info ($12?) - must've hit delete instead of "next". Please contact me at gary at metalithic.com again with the ordering info! Thanks (and apologies), gary "One of these fingers fell from my hand..." ? From mordru at MAGG.NET Fri Sep 13 12:26:24 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 12:26:24 -0400 Subject: Midi Files Message-ID: >To: Steven Tice >Re: Midi Files > >How about saving the midi files in standard .MID format instead of >Cakewalk format .WRK for those of us that dont have Cakewalk. Yeah, I agree. Though I did manage to find a demo version of Cakewalk lying around that let me play it (though not save...). It was interesting, but my keyboa0rd only has six :( .midi channels, so I couldn't get much of the effect on that. Using the FM synthesis was rather tinny (no wavetable), but apart from that rather interesting. I'm keeping this, though with .mid format we could place it on web pages and the like (crescendo, e.g.). Um, is doing this kind of stuff in murky copyright waters? +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Fri Sep 13 12:36:01 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 12:36:01 -0400 Subject: BOC : Imaginos Comic and Reaper MIDI Message-ID: >It is the MIDI file he mentioned in his posting, encoded so it could be >sent through e-mail. Since you saw it as "garbage," I take it your mail >reader doesn't understand MIME. Sorry. > >I hope this helps, > >Paul. > Neither myself nor my mail reader understand MIME or what a MIDI file is. I am running Digital Unix 2.0 thanks for the help Martyn obCD: Dave Matthew's band, Crash From StevenTice at AOL.COM Fri Sep 13 12:39:04 1996 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 12:39:04 -0400 Subject: BOC: Reaper as MID file--no garbage! Message-ID: Okay! Like I said, I'm still new to a lot of this stuff! 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What appeared to you as garbage was an attach Cakewalk MIDI file of "Don't fear the Reaper" (Reaper.wrk). -Lee From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Fri Sep 13 13:33:33 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 13:33:33 -0400 Subject: BOC: Reaper as MID file--no garbage! Message-ID: Does some kind person have the time to explain how I can play this? Private email would be OK unless there is general interest AtDhVaAnNkCsE Martyn PS sorry about the garbage remark From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Sep 13 13:50:25 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 18:50:25 +0100 Subject: BOC: Reaper as MID file--no garbage! In-Reply-To: <9609131733.AA18405@borg.med.ecu.edu> from "Martyn White" at Sep 13, 96 01:33:33 pm Message-ID: > Does some kind person have the time to explain how I can > play this? > Private email would be OK unless there is general interest Presumably you need something that handles MIDI files. That counts _me_ out ;) > PS sorry about the garbage remark Well, for what it's worth it showed up as "garbage" on my screen as well. I'd like to say the days of my telnet sessions on terminal emulators are numbered, but there's no immediate sign that they are .... Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of ASNAC Studies, Cambridge U. * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Fri Sep 13 14:53:20 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 14:53:20 -0400 Subject: OFF: Black Cardigans Message-ID: >Along the same lines but not quite, does anyone know the name of the band that did a song called 'Santa Claus' to the tune of 'Iron Man'? Lyrics of note went: "Leave me cookies and beer and I'll be at your house first next year." That was the Bob Rivers comedy troupe (I think -I know it's "Bob Rivers" something!). It's on the "I Am Santa Claus" CD - they put out one a few years earlier called "Twisted Christmas". Both are pretty funny to listen to around the holidays. "Twisted Christmas" has the song, "The 12 Pains of Christmas", which I'm pretty sure gets lots of play among the Dr. Demento types. "I Am Santa Claus" has the track you mentioned (which besides being funny, is fairly true musically to Iron Man), and also has an AC/DC-inspired song (might be called "Jingle Hells Bells") which musically is a cross between the riffs of "TNT" and "Highway to Hell" with bastardized lyrics from the song "My Favorite Things". Twisted indeed! John From vlegrand at PROLOG.NET Fri Sep 13 19:44:27 1996 From: vlegrand at PROLOG.NET (Vince LeGrand) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 19:44:27 -0400 Subject: Black Cardigans Message-ID: ---------- From: Stier, Christopher[SMTP:Christopher.Stier at LEXIS-NEXIS.COM] Sent: Friday, September 13, 1996 9:05 AM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: OFF: Black Cardigans >Has anybody heard the bizarre version of Sabbath's "Iron Man" by the >Cardigans? Imagine a mellow, easy-listening version with a frail female >voice singing the song in a weird, understated melancholy way... >Apparantly they did a version of "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" as well, but I >haven't heard that one... weird, weird. >Christian Along the same lines but not quite, does anyone know the name of the band that did a song called 'Santa Claus' to the tune of 'Iron Man'? Lyrics of note went: "Leave me cookies and beer and I'll be at your house first next year." Ok, ok, back to lurker mode. Chris The "Santa Claus" cover of Iron Man was done by Bob Rivers and Twisted Radio. It's on a CD with other classics such as Jingle Hells Bells. I see this CD in all the local CD stores around Christmas. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1943 bytes Desc: not available URL: From david at MASTMOOR.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Sep 14 06:31:18 1996 From: david at MASTMOOR.DEMON.CO.UK (David Jones) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 11:31:18 +0100 Subject: off: Porcupine Tree Message-ID: Does anyone know when the new Porcupine Tree CD is out ? Anybody got the adress for their mailing list ? Thanks David From stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM Sat Sep 14 09:57:12 1996 From: stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM (William Stone) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 06:57:12 -0700 Subject: off: Porcupine Tree Message-ID: You wrote: > >Does anyone know when the new Porcupine Tree CD is out ? > I'll have it in stock by week's end :) Wylie From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Sat Sep 14 11:39:32 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 17:39:32 +0200 Subject: HW: Rotterdam gig Message-ID: Hi folks Here are the tracks HAWKWIND played in Rotterdam last Sunday (08.Sept.1996) Playing time: 110 minutes Lineup: BROCK / DAVEY / CHADWICK / TREE / RICHARDS abducted / master of the universe / awakening / photo encounter / blue skin / hassan i sahba / space is their / hassan i sahba / sputnik stan / love in space / aerospaceage inferno / iron dream / kapal / instrumental / brainstorm / silver machine / welcome cheers Bernhard From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Sep 14 11:01:27 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 16:01:27 +0100 Subject: HW : Live 1974 teaser In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I just got slipped a tape of a coupla tracks off the upcoming Live 1974, more than likely with the express purpose of having me froth to you guys! Not surprisingly, I'm gonna! The snip I've got is a live "Warriors" which segues into "Brainbox Pollution". YOU ARE GONNA LOVE THIS ALBUM!!!!! The sound is really good, all the intruments are there in the mix, all the personalities (sound like they're) in the line-up. This really sounds like the greatest Hawkwind album that never was. I believe what I heard has been cleaned up a bit but isn't a finished mix but I can't see how it'll get a lot better. It's *just* how you want a HW LP to sound, all swooshy and blanga! And yes, I, the great Mento, can discern this from two tracks :)) Nice one! -- Jon Browne From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sat Sep 14 13:34:21 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 18:34:21 +0100 Subject: HW : Live 1974 teaser In-Reply-To: from "Jon Browne" at Sep 14, 96 04:01:27 pm Message-ID: > I just got slipped a tape of a coupla tracks off the upcoming Live 1974, > more than likely with the express purpose of having me froth to you > guys! Not surprisingly, I'm gonna! > This really > sounds like the greatest Hawkwind album that never was. > I believe what I heard has been cleaned up a bit but isn't a finished > mix but I can't see how it'll get a lot better. It's *just* how you want > a HW LP to sound, all swooshy and blanga! And so do we have any further estimates on _when_ this delightful creation will be headed shop-wards? Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of ASNAC Studies, Cambridge U. * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From StevenTice at AOL.COM Sat Sep 14 14:49:59 1996 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 14:49:59 -0400 Subject: BOC: Cult Classic and MIDI files Message-ID: Here's a little background info on the Cult Classic guitar book and the MIDI files... Cult Classic contains sheet music for all of the tracks on the album of the same name. It purports to have the complete and exact guitar parts for all of the songs, with tablature, and (barring some errors) does. In addition, it contains all of the vocal lines (including harmonies) in most cases. Unlike some such books, it does not contain any non-vocal or non-guitar parts whatsoever. It's quite useful for BOC, however, since so much of their music is guitar-oriented. This Ain't the Summer of Love is credited to Roeser rather than Albert, unfortunately. The MIDI programs, I've discovered, often require some fine-tuning based on one's individual program, so feel free to set the instruments differently, change relative volume levels, and anything of that sort in order to make the file sound better on your MIDI program. Cakewalk changed completely on me when I switched to Windows 95, so even the having the same program doesn't necessarily mean that the file will sound the way it does originally! I'm being forced to redo all of the drum lines for the files I created on pre-Windows 95 Cakewalk, because most of the drum sounds have changed completely (sigh). Also, I only recently received the manual for Cakewalk, so I have more to learn about how to manipulate sound in this program. Hopefully there's an easy way to do pitch bends, because those have caused me the most trouble! Thanks for any feedback on the files. SET From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Sep 14 15:28:43 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 20:28:43 +0100 Subject: HW : Live 1974 teaser In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , "Carl E. Anderson" writes > And so do we have any further estimates on _when_ this delightful >creation will be headed shop-wards? > >Cheers, >Carl Er, didn't occur to me to ask......sorry! -- Jon Browne From david at MASTMOOR.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Sep 14 08:55:28 1996 From: david at MASTMOOR.DEMON.CO.UK (David Jones) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 13:55:28 +0100 Subject: of: Porcupine Tree 2 Message-ID: I just answered my own question about the new Porcupine Tree CD. look at http://ww.delerium.co.uk/delerium/releases/delec045.html for the release date, cover, track listing and lyrics. David From khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU Sat Sep 14 20:06:33 1996 From: khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Keith A Henderson) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 20:06:33 -0400 Subject: OFF: Gong US October In-Reply-To: from "David Jones" at Sep 14, 96 11:31:18 am Message-ID: Hi Folks... Just saw a posting of tentative (I presume) dates for the upcoming 2nd ever Gong trip across the US and Fr. Canada. I was under the impression that they were planning to use this trip to fill in all the places they didn't get last time (ie. the South and Texas), but this seems to be the same ole' Northeast-Midwest cities....I guess Boston is a make-up for last time, but that's about it. Suits me fine, but it's too bad they can't give folks elsewhere a shot at a cool show now and then. Guess promoters still have their collective heads up their collective arses. Don't some of these venues also seem *smaller* than last time too?? I dunno about the rest of the shows, but the Cleveland gig was full and really into it. See ya' there Pixies.... > >(all dates in October) > >11-13- Club Dauteille, Quebec City, Quebec (yes, 3 nights, a great >place to spend the weekend if you can get there) >14- Travel >15- Mama Kin's, Boston, Ma. >16- Tramps, New York, N.Y. >17- Club Bene, Sayerville, New Jersey >18- Theater Of Living Arts, Philadelphia, Pa. >19- Baltimore Museum Of Art, Baltimore, Md. >20- Birchmere, Arlington, Va. >21- Travel >22- Cubby Bear, Chicago, Il. >23-Seventh House, (near) Detriot,Mi. >24- TBA >25- Phantasy Club, Cleveland, Ohio >26-27- Cabaret, Montreal, Quebec > >end de la tour- to be continued Spring 1997 Keith H. (FAA) From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Sat Sep 14 20:47:13 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Le Monsieur) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 19:47:13 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: Gong US October In-Reply-To: <199609150006.UAA08149@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: On Sat, 14 Sep 1996, Keith A Henderson wrote: > I was under the impression that they were planning to use this trip to > fill in all the places they didn't get last time (ie. the South and > Texas), but this seems to be the same ole' Northeast-Midwest cities....I > guess Boston is a make-up for last time, but that's about it. Suits me > fine, but it's too bad they can't give folks elsewhere a shot at a cool > show now and then. Actually, though they did try to get something to happen here down south, they also mentioned that Gong will be coming back to the U.S. yet again next March. The e-mail I received from one of the guys (THE guy?) who are putting these U.S. tours together seems to imply that GONG will most definitely make it to the South in March if they don't (didn't) make it back this time around. At any rate, I'm trying to help out in any way I can, but we'll have to plan ahead if I'll be helping out. Damon Capehart | "As their numbers dwindled from 70 to 8, the aka Le Monsieur | dwarves began to suspect Hungry..." dcapehar at utdallas.edu | From stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM Sun Sep 15 00:30:03 1996 From: stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM (William Stone) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 21:30:03 -0700 Subject: OFF: Gong US October Message-ID: >Don't some of these venues also seem *smaller* than last time too?? I dunno >about the rest of the shows, but the Cleveland gig was full and really into it. > > >>25- Phantasy Club, Cleveland, Ohio Hopefully its in the Theater, site of the legendary 89 HW gig. Seeing as they filled the Odeon last time I can't imagine using the (tiny) nightclub... Wylie From mlooney at IONET.NET Sun Sep 15 10:53:10 1996 From: mlooney at IONET.NET (J. Michael Looney) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 09:53:10 -0500 Subject: BOC: Recording!! Message-ID: At 04:27 PM 9/11/96 -0600, you wrote: > Also, they will play a few mid west shows in a few weeks with REO >Speedwagon. Don't know exactly where in the mid-west. Does anybody know? > REO Speedwagon is playing Tulsa next month, however the local Radio ads for the show don't mention BOC as the other band. REO is playing the Cane's Ballroom, which holds a 900-1200 people. From delacour at UNM.EDU Sun Sep 15 13:55:51 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 11:55:51 -0600 Subject: BOC: Recording!! In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19960915145310.006675f4@ionet.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 15 Sep 1996, J. Michael Looney wrote: > At 04:27 PM 9/11/96 -0600, you wrote: > > Also, they will play a few mid west shows in a few weeks with REO > >Speedwagon. Don't know exactly where in the mid-west. Does anybody know? > > > > > REO Speedwagon is playing Tulsa next month, however the local Radio ads for > the show don't mention BOC as the other band. REO is playing the Cane's > Ballroom, which holds a 900-1200 people. > Please keep me (us) posted on this Oklahoma show. I'll have 3 weeks off in Oct, and Tulsa is about a 12 hr drive for us from Albq. Thanks and God Bless.... Go Green Bay!!!! Manuel & Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From jguizar at EPIX.NET Sun Sep 15 14:00:45 1996 From: jguizar at EPIX.NET (Jerry Guizar) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 14:00:45 -0400 Subject: OFF: Cope Message-ID: I tried ordering the Julian Cope books that someone mentioned here a while back, but my book store can't get them. She got blanks on the ISBN numbers (instead of out-of-print or something similar). How long ago were the books released and can someone who has them give me the ISBN numbers again so I can check and make sure I wrote them down right? Jerry -- ----------------------------------------------------------- jguizar at epix.net ----------------------------------------------------------- From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Sun Sep 15 16:04:39 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 20:04:39 UT Subject: Cope Message-ID: Jerry Krautrocksampler: 0-9526719-1-3 Head-On: 0-9526719-0-5 Publisher for both: Head Heritage KAK Ltd PO Box 3823 London N8 8TQ K is in a second edition and is definitely still current - first published 1995. H first pub. 1994. - Andy From delacour at UNM.EDU Sun Sep 15 18:06:52 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 16:06:52 -0600 Subject: BOC: Cover Artist In-Reply-To: Message-ID: BOC-L People; Just got back from a record collector's convention here in town (Albq), and met someone that may of interest to you (us). I was browsing around and someone asked if I was looking for any (artist) in particular. I said BOC and they guy said, " Sorry ". However, a guy standing next to me said that he had a few things on BOC, and if I was in- terested in looking at the items. I said sure. He introduced himself as Greg Scott and said that he used to do album cover artwork in the early 80's, but has since relocated to New Mexico because of the artistic envi- ronment, inspirational scenery, ect. He blew me away when he showed me the original artwork for FIre Of Unknown Origin, ETL, & RBN. He also had some good stories to share with me. Perhaps I'll get his permission to e-mail this list with some of the stories, ect. He invited me up to his studio to talk some more about music and art. Mr. Scott asaid he would show me the album cover that he had designed for the BOC disc which was to be released on Atlantic back around 93/94. Of course, that deal fell through, but I am dying to see the proposed artwork. Thank you for letting me indulge in your valuable time. God bless.... Manuel & Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From StevenTice at AOL.COM Sun Sep 15 21:10:21 1996 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 21:10:21 -0400 Subject: BOC: Cover Artist Message-ID: I can't help but wonder what he would have done with Imaginos! :-) Actually, hey, might this guy be interested in working on the comic book? Hmmm... SET From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Sun Sep 15 22:11:23 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 22:11:23 -0400 Subject: OTHER: TEST of u-soft Exchange settings. Message-ID: This is a test of the options of Exchange. I am trying to minimize the garbage charecters that a number of you have to deal with. If you have read this far, WHY?????? craigs at pyramid.com From mumford at EUNET.NO Mon Sep 16 05:12:29 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 11:12:29 +0200 Subject: HW: the Green Guy? Message-ID: I saw a HW CD some years ago that had a drawn cover much in the style of Zones or Out & Intake, which depicted (in a sqare diagonally divided design on a blue background) a face of a green alien with big spock-ears on one side and a spaceship or space-thang on the other, on a starry background, I think... does anyone know what this is? Wish I'd bought it! Christian From gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU Mon Sep 16 07:42:11 1996 From: gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU (Guido Vacano) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 07:42:11 -0400 Subject: OTHER: TEST of u-soft Exchange settings. In-Reply-To: <01BBA352.D94A6DC0@dynamic-4.async.pyramid.com> from "Craig A. Shipley" at Sep 15, 96 10:11:23 pm Message-ID: Hey Craig-- > This is a test of the options of Exchange. I am trying to minimize the = > garbage charecters that a number of you have to deal with. If you have = > read this far, WHY?????? Well, I took a break from listening to the 56 volume Italian boot retrospective of Zappa's career (covering 1967-68), and needed something to do. :-) Actually, I only got to the word garbage--the lines of your posts aren't wrapping (i'm using elm, with pico as the editor). However, there's no attached garbage! :-) Sheesh! Old people and computers! ;-) Guido -- If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Sep 16 09:35:40 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:35:40 +0100 Subject: OTHER: TEST of u-soft Exchange settings. In-Reply-To: <9609161142.AA17703@beaver.mbb.wesleyan.edu> from "Guido Vacano" at Sep 16, 96 07:42:11 am Message-ID: > > This is a test of the options of Exchange. I am trying to minimize the = > > garbage charecters that a number of you have to deal with. If you have = > > read this far, WHY?????? > > Well, I took a break from listening to the 56 volume Italian boot > retrospective of Zappa's career (covering 1967-68), and needed > something to do. :-) > Actually, I only got to the word garbage--the lines of your posts aren't > wrapping (i'm using elm, with pico as the editor). However, there's no > attached garbage! :-) Just for the record, my mail reader refused to show me any of the original message _at_all_. Don't know whether that counts as garbage or no :) First I saw of any of it was in Guido's quote ... Cheers, Carl From shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM Mon Sep 16 14:58:10 1996 From: shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM (shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:58:10 BST Subject: HW:introductions Message-ID: hhhmmm...things are a bit quiet, so time for a new thread. When I were a lad (well student), I used to frequent an excellent cub in Liverpool. The DJ there was a big HW fan, & would always play any HW requests. He used to introduce the songs differently each night, but the one I remember best was "Meanwhile, in downtown Baghdad...." at the start of Hassan I Sabha. Anybody know of any other witty intros (Brock, Calvert et al included) to HW songs ? Neil, Bored in Gatwick. From egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US Mon Sep 16 09:51:38 1996 From: egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US (Ed Gallagher) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 08:51:38 -0500 Subject: OTHER: TEST of u-soft Exchange settings. In-Reply-To: from "Carl E. Anderson" at Sep 16, 96 02:35:40 pm Message-ID: > > > > This is a test of the options of Exchange. I am trying to minimize the = > > > garbage charecters that a number of you have to deal with. If you have = > > > read this far, WHY?????? > > > > Well, I took a break from listening to the 56 volume Italian boot > > retrospective of Zappa's career (covering 1967-68), and needed > > something to do. :-) > > Actually, I only got to the word garbage--the lines of your posts aren't > > wrapping (i'm using elm, with pico as the editor). However, there's no > > attached garbage! :-) > > Just for the record, my mail reader refused to show me any of > the original message _at_all_. Don't know whether that counts as > garbage or no :) > First I saw of any of it was in Guido's quote ... > > Cheers, > Carl > I'm also using elm with pico as an editor, from within a telnet window in Win95. I've got no problem with your messages (any of them in this thread). My elm mail screen shows them with an 'M' in one of the columns to the left of the mail item (next to the 'N' indicating a new message). I assume this stands for a mime binary attachment. That attachment gets deleted whenever I delete the message. There have been some messages that I have been recieving from others that do have garbage characters across the bottom of the message. realizing what they are, I have just been ignoring them. No big deal. ;-} -- "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein Edward Gallagher Internet egallagh at harper.cc.il.us Advanced Technology Specialist William Rainey Harper College Information Systems/User Service Pager (708) 962-4886 1200 W. Algonquin Rd. FAX (847) 925-6036 Palatine, IL 60067 Old Fashion Way (847) 925-6134 From acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK Mon Sep 16 11:50:22 1996 From: acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK (Andy Cobley) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:50:22 +0000 Subject: HW:introductions Message-ID: shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM wrote: > > hhhmmm...things are a bit quiet, so time for a new thread. > > When I were a lad (well student), I used to frequent an excellent cub >in Liverpool. Andy what club was that then ? Moonstone perhaps ? Lincon Inn ?(I think) or some other. We should be told !!! Andy C -- Javap-uk, a uk mailbase for Java programmers To join javap-uk send the command: Join javap-uk firstname(s) lastname mailbase at mailbase.ac.uk From egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US Mon Sep 16 10:50:17 1996 From: egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US (Ed Gallagher) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 09:50:17 -0500 Subject: OFF: CD Storage Info In-Reply-To: from "Larry Estep" at Sep 13, 96 11:14:13 am Message-ID: I've been using 5 1/4" CD/Disk drawers made by a company called Exponent. They list for about $60-$70 US each but EggHead software caries them for not much more than $30 US. ($30 when on sale $34? normally) They come in standard "Computer Putty" and grey. Have 2 removable drawers (with carrying handles, and drawer locks (plastic locks)) that hold 20 CDs in jewel cases each. They are stackable and connect together vertically, horizontally, or both. Same width as the 3 drawer 3 1/2" version so they stack also. Many other versions/options available including a wheeled platform. Exponent PO Box 104 Pine Brook, NJ 07058 (201) 808-9423 -- "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein Edward Gallagher Internet egallagh at harper.cc.il.us Advanced Technology Specialist William Rainey Harper College Information Systems/User Service Pager (708) 962-4886 1200 W. Algonquin Rd. FAX (847) 925-6036 Palatine, IL 60067 Old Fashion Way (847) 925-6134 From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Mon Sep 16 11:21:06 1996 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 11:21:06 -0400 Subject: OFF: CD Storage Info Message-ID: I use steel cabinets by CAN-AM. 3 drawers w/ dividers. Each cabinet holds 800 (!!) CD's. They're stackable and you can buy a wheeled base for them. Expensive ($350. or so), but they definately do the job. I currently have 3 of them and need to order a 4th... R. From shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM Mon Sep 16 16:24:31 1996 From: shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM (shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 16:24:31 BST Subject: OFF:Liverpool Club (was HW:introductions) Message-ID: Andy C asked about which club played all the HW. It was Freewheelers bar, Wood Street, Liverpool. It was above a run down warehouse in a back street inbetween Chinatown and the city centre. Alas, this great place had shut down last I heard. As an aside, the DJ (Andy) claimed he was a member of a support band on Motorheads first UK tour. Whether that was true or not, I'm pretty cynical, but hey, ya never knew for sure. He used to play BOC sometimes aswell. Neil. From mumford at EUNET.NO Mon Sep 16 11:38:19 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:38:19 +0200 Subject: HW:introductions Message-ID: shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM wrote: > > hhhmmm...things are a bit quiet, so time for a new thread. > > When I were a lad (well student), I used to frequent an excellent cub in Liverpool. The DJ there was a big HW fan, & would always play any HW requests. He used > "Meanwhile, in downtown Baghdad...." at the start of Hassan I Sabha. > Anybody know of any other witty intros (Brock, Calvert et al included) to HW songs ? > > Neil, > Bored in Gatwick. How about the outro on the Chaos 86 video where at the end of Hassan I Sahba, Brock goes 'and smoke alot of it!'... Christian From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Mon Sep 16 13:00:53 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 19:00:53 +0200 Subject: HW:introductions Message-ID: Hello >Anybody know of any other witty intros (Brock, Calvert et al included) to HW >songs ? Between QUARK and LSD on the 1994 European tour Dave Brock announced sometimes: This was a song about ALBERT EINSTEIN. And now comes a song about ALBERT HOFFMANN Bernhard From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Sep 16 13:32:12 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:32:12 +0100 Subject: OFF: CD Storage Info In-Reply-To: <9609161450.AA23970@info1.harper.cc.il.us> from "Ed Gallagher" at Sep 16, 96 09:50:17 am Message-ID: BTW, I saw an announcement with _remarkably_ similar wording appear from the same source on at least one usenet music group .... ;) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************** Carl Edlund Anderson "Swa mec gelome ladgeteonan cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk threatedon thearle. Ic him http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html thenode deoran sweorde, Dept. of ASNAC Studies swa hit gedefe waes." University of Cambridge --Beowulf, lines 559-561 ************************************************************************** From skarsol at EROLS.COM Mon Sep 16 09:31:36 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 13:31:36 +0000 Subject: HW: the Green Guy? Message-ID: Christian Mumford wrote: > > I saw a HW CD some years ago that had a drawn cover much in the style of > Zones or Out & Intake, which depicted (in a sqare diagonally > divided design on a blue background) a face of a green alien with big > spock-ears on one side and a spaceship or space-thang on the other, on a > starry background, I think... does anyone know what this is? Wish I'd > bought it! > > Christian isnt this the text of the festival?i dont know,because i dont have it, but it sounds like a cd i see fairly regularly,and is either text of the festival,or acid daze.(or maybe even an alternate cover for space ritual two.) at any rate,what you describe is not rare,least not around here. i never picked it up because i think i have all the material it contains on other albums. i could be wrong bout that tho. hope i havent hopelessly confused the issue, rj From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Mon Sep 16 13:49:04 1996 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:49:04 +0100 Subject: HW:introductions Message-ID: "The Right Stuff...we like smoking the right stuff you know!" on the ECT TV broadcast, said by Dave Brock!! >> When I were a lad (well student), I used to frequent an excellent cub in Liverpool. The DJ there was a big HW fan, & would always play any HW >requests. He used >> "Meanwhile, in downtown Baghdad...." at the start of Hassan I Sabha. >> Anybody know of any other witty intros (Brock, Calvert et al included) to HW songs ? >> >> Neil, >> Bored in Gatwick. > > >How about the outro on the Chaos 86 video where at the end of Hassan I >Sahba, Brock goes 'and smoke alot of it!'... > >Christian > > From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Mon Sep 16 14:11:50 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 14:11:50 -0400 Subject: HW:introductions Message-ID: Does anyone remember Nik's rambling introduction to "Ejection"? It involved Bob Calvert getting shoved out of a door and about how when Bob was growing up his dad wanted him to be a poet and he wanted to be a fighter pilot ... now wait a minute his dad wanted him to be a fighter pilot but Bob wanted to be a poet ...etc Martyn From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Mon Sep 16 22:08:49 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 04:08:49 +0200 Subject: OFF: me, myself and I Message-ID: HI everybody My Eudora has been totally fucked up the whole summer(I could read but I couldn't send mail) 'cause my university, has installed new computers... and something went terribly wrong... I dunno what and don't think I want to either... :-) Well, I've bought HW "Love In Space" and "Friends and Relations" (single disc on Emp...something), and I have got Roadhawks since 89-90. Can I consider myself as a Hawkster now? Or do have to collect some more? Hey, but then I'll become a Hamster and not a Hawkster! ;-) I could really use some help to know which cd I should buy next... my music taste is something like Blue OysterMagnetKyuss of ConformityTullSabbathWeen and Scafell Pike! BTW 1 Cardigans sucks. Nina or whatever her name is just an ignorent nobody (good looking nobody though). BTW 2 (Old thread I know but I have got to say this) I'm Swedish AND an ex-sailor and I have never heard of anybody who uses the word Hammer in that way. But I think I'll introduce it for my friends. For all you out there in space I'll recommend the expression "Slem Helge". That's the same as "Familjelyckan". :-) tjosan -Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From jmlofft at BUFFNET.NET Mon Sep 16 11:22:22 1996 From: jmlofft at BUFFNET.NET (Joseph M. Lofft) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:22:22 GMT Subject: The Reaper Midi Message-ID: After listening to this midi file (with no drums or bass), and as much as I hate to admit it, I think "The Reaper" would be excellent if it were performed accoustically, i.e. on eMpTyV's "Unplugged". I can hear it accompanied by a string section. Just a thought... Joe From jmlofft at BUFFNET.NET Mon Sep 16 11:25:35 1996 From: jmlofft at BUFFNET.NET (Joseph M. Lofft) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:25:35 GMT Subject: BOC: The Reaper Midi Message-ID: Sorry about this duplicate message, but I forgot the "BOC:" on the subject line. After listening to this midi file (with no drums or bass), and as much as I hate to admit it, I think "The Reaper" would be excellent if it were performed accoustically, i.e. on eMpTyV's "Unplugged". I can hear it accompanied by a string section. Just a thought... Joe From jguizar at EPIX.NET Mon Sep 16 16:32:21 1996 From: jguizar at EPIX.NET (Jerry Guizar) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 16:32:21 -0400 Subject: OFF: CD Storage Info In-Reply-To: <960916112105_523574262@emout08.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: In <960916112105_523574262 at emout08.mail.aol.com>, on 09/16/96 at 11:21 AM, Rocker22 at AOL.COM said: >I use steel cabinets by CAN-AM. 3 drawers w/ dividers. Each cabinet >holds 800 (!!) CD's. They're stackable and you can buy a wheeled base >for them. > Expensive ($350. or so), but they definately do the job. I currently >have 3 of them and need to order a 4th... Why order a fourth? It would be cheaper to just clear out one of those drawers - say starting around the letter H, and mailing them to me! ;{} Jerry --------------------------------------------------------- jguizar at epix.net ----------------------------------------------------------- From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Mon Sep 16 23:02:10 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 05:02:10 +0200 Subject: OFF:TEST Message-ID: this is just a test . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Mon Sep 16 17:27:57 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:27:57 -0400 Subject: OTHER: TEST of u-soft Exchange settings. Message-ID: ---------- From: Carl E. Anderson[SMTP:cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, September 16, 1996 9:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: OTHER: TEST of u-soft Exchange settings. > > This is a test of the options of Exchange. I am trying to minimize the = > > garbage charecters that a number of you have to deal with. If you have = > > read this far, WHY?????? > > Well, I took a break from listening to the 56 volume Italian boot > retrospective of Zappa's career (covering 1967-68), and needed > something to do. :-) > Actually, I only got to the word garbage--the lines of your posts aren't > wrapping (i'm using elm, with pico as the editor). However, there's no > attached garbage! :-) Just for the record, my mail reader refused to show me any of the original message _at_all_. Don't know whether that counts as garbage or no :) First I saw of any of it was in Guido's quote ... Cheers, Carl Well, that seems like a rather drastic way of filtering out garbage! Does this mean that all of my e-mail is considered garbage? :-/ (Cue the song "Mr. Pollution" by the German prog-band P'Cock) NP: Comsat Angels: Sleep No More (with Waiting For A Miracle next in line) Probably the best New Wave band, IMHO. (Gotta a helluva deal from the local Borders book/music chain! Had a coupon, buy two CD's get one free; got the Comsat's and got the new Rush for nothing! If you have a Borders in your area, check the paper for their ad). Craig craigs at pyramid.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2412 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kalex at EECS.UMICH.EDU Mon Sep 16 17:44:13 1996 From: kalex at EECS.UMICH.EDU (Ken Alexander) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:44:13 -0400 Subject: HW: the Green Guy? Message-ID: > (in a sqare diagonally > divided design on a blue background) a face of a green alien with big > spock-ears on one side and a spaceship or space-thang on the other, on a > starry background, I think... does anyone know what this is? Sounds like _The Text of Festival_. Early live stuff with bad sound quality, but some cool long guitar jams. From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Mon Sep 16 18:11:13 1996 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:11:13 -0400 Subject: OFF: CD Storage Info Message-ID: In a message dated 96-09-16 16:37:04 EDT, you write: << Why order a fourth? It would be cheaper to just clear out one of those drawers - say starting around the letter H, and mailing them to me! ;{} Jerry >> Sorry, Jerry. I couldn't afford the postage to send that many CD's. :-( R. From stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM Mon Sep 16 19:22:19 1996 From: stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM (William Stone) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 16:22:19 -0700 Subject: OFF: Cope Message-ID: You wrote: > > I tried ordering the Julian Cope books that someone mentioned here a >while back, but my book store can't get them. She got blanks on the ISBN >numbers (instead of out-of-print or something similar). > Geez...I carry that too... Shameless, I know :) Wylie From delacour at UNM.EDU Mon Sep 16 19:39:45 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:39:45 -0600 Subject: BOC: Cover Artist In-Reply-To: <960915211020_285646185@emout03.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 15 Sep 1996, Steven Tice wrote: > I can't help but wonder what he would have done with Imaginos! :-) > > Actually, hey, might this guy be interested in working on the comic book? > Hmmm... > > SET > To all; Let me first check with him to see if he will allow me to put his phone number on this list for any of you interested in purchasing his artwork. I'll post this week with his permission. GOd bless... Manuel & Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From martinp at INFORAMP.NET Mon Sep 16 19:56:12 1996 From: martinp at INFORAMP.NET (MartinPopoff) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 19:56:12 -0400 Subject: OFF : CD storage Message-ID: Hi folks, Martin here (man I must be the king of lurkers: sorry). I've built my own simple pine shelving, exact depth, maybe an inch over cd size high per shelf, about 6 feet tall, have two fairly unwide ones and one about 3 feet wide. But a buddy and I have both seriously been discussing turfing our jewel cases and going with simple clear plastic sleeves . . . Otherwise, the only thing I can think of really working would be a library-type/filing system where you push racks together and then spread them on their tracks when looking for that all-mood-perfect Brain Surgeons opus! PS: new ed. of Riff Kills Man! to the printer yesterday, now called The Collector's Guide To Heavy Metal, 574 pages, 3,520 reviews, through Collector's Guide Publishing: an albatross is soundly lifted from my neck!!!! Martin Popoff Martin Popoff: martinp at inforamp.net Power Chord Press (Riff Kills Man!) P.O. Box 65208, 358 Danforth Ave. Toronto, Ontario M4K 3Z2 From gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU Mon Sep 16 20:06:51 1996 From: gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU (Guido Vacano) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 20:06:51 -0400 Subject: OTHER: TEST of u-soft Exchange settings. In-Reply-To: <01BBA3F4.B28F3CE0@dynamic-14.async.pyramid.com> from "Craig A. Shipley" at Sep 16, 96 05:27:57 pm Message-ID: > > ------ =_NextPart_000_01BBA3F4.B2A7A6E0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Well, that seems like a rather drastic way of filtering out garbage! = > Does this mean that all of my e-mail is considered garbage? :-/ (Cue the = > song "Mr. Pollution" by the German prog-band P'Cock) > > NP: Comsat Angels: Sleep No More (with Waiting For A Miracle next in = > line) > Probably the best New Wave band, IMHO. (Gotta a helluva deal from the = > local Borders book/music chain! Had a coupon, buy two CD's get one free; = > got the Comsat's and got the new Rush for nothing! If you have a Borders = > in your area, check the paper for their ad). > > Craig > craigs at pyramid.com Hey Craig-- A couple things-- First, I can't see all of your mail, until I reply (where pico cuts in, and wraps the lines correctly, I guess). Second, there was weird crap that came along for the ride (see the header stuff up above, and the application/ms-tnef nonsense below). I hate Micro$oft. :-) Third, what's the new Rush called, and how is it? > > ------ > =_NextPart_000_01BBA3F4.B2A7A6E0 > Content-Type: application/ms-tnef > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > > eJ8+IgQVAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAENgAQAAgAAAAIAAgABBJAG . . . (tens of lines of stuff deleted--Bill Gates should be fed to the wolves) . . . Guido obCDplayer--Nerve Net by Brian Eno obJazz--Heavy Weather by Weather Report From ir004728 at INTERRAMP.COM Mon Sep 16 21:17:42 1996 From: ir004728 at INTERRAMP.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:17:42 -0400 Subject: BOC: Cover Artist Message-ID: >I can't help but wonder what he would have done with Imaginos! :-) > >Actually, hey, might this guy be interested in working on the comic book? > Hmmm... Actually I seem to remember him working on an Imaginos cover back when it was my album! Al From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Mon Sep 16 14:10:09 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 05:10:09 +1100 Subject: HW:introductions Message-ID: Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > > Hello > > >Anybody know of any other witty intros (Brock, Calvert et al included) to > HW >songs ? > > Between QUARK and LSD on the 1994 European tour Dave Brock announced sometimes: > > This was a song about ALBERT EINSTEIN. And now comes a song about ALBERT > HOFFMANN > > Bernhard For me, the one that takes the cake is Calvert's intro to "Test tube conceived" on the Queen Elisabth Hall album. The song's about test tube experiments, and Calvert states "you can see the results of these kind of experiments every time you go to a Hawkwind concert, actually..." or the other comment, regarding the bouncer that was on the front of the stage, "who is in fact, a trained NINGA! So stay back, we don't want to see anybody ningured.... or any ninguries...." It says it all realy... -MaxWilcox From dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM Tue Sep 17 03:26:35 1996 From: dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM (Jeremy Dacombe) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 03:26:35 EDT Subject: HW: Text Of .. Message-ID: --- Received from LIMEMO1.DACOMBJ 4709 17/09/96 08.25 -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBMMAIL INTERNET GATEWAY INTERNET Dear All, Regarding the TEXT OF FESTIVAL CD. Despite its limitations due to poor sound quality, I love this CD. Pretty much essential stuff I'd say. This CD together with YURI GAGARIN & ACID DAZE (HISTORY) cover all the 15 or so LPs which keep emerging. My only gripe about it is due to the fact that the original vinyl's worth of 90 mins has been edited down to 70 (ish) in order to get it onto a single CD. This has resulted in the omission of the amazing side 4 (or was it side 3?). The side with BE YOURSELF, anyway. Cheers for now. Jez. From mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK Tue Sep 17 08:35:37 1996 From: mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK (Mike Parkington) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 08:35:37 +-100 Subject: me, myself and I Message-ID: Daniel, In my humble opinion (as we are wont to say) real goodies and a must in the collection are: Levitation Hall of the Mountain Grill Xenon Codex Live Chronicles PXR5 If you can only buy one, buy Levitation. Mike (awaiting for violent disagreement) P ---------- From: Daniel Wikdahl[SMTP:mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 1996 03:08 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: OFF: me, myself and I HI everybody My Eudora has been totally fucked up the whole summer(I could read but I couldn't send mail) 'cause my university, has installed new computers... and something went terribly wrong... I dunno what and don't think I want to either... :-) Well, I've bought HW "Love In Space" and "Friends and Relations" (single disc on Emp...something), and I have got Roadhawks since 89-90. Can I consider myself as a Hawkster now? Or do have to collect some more? Hey, but then I'll become a Hamster and not a Hawkster! ;-) I could really use some help to know which cd I should buy next... my music taste is something like Blue OysterMagnetKyuss of ConformityTullSabbathWeen and Scafell Pike! BTW 1 Cardigans sucks. Nina or whatever her name is just an ignorent nobody (good looking nobody though). BTW 2 (Old thread I know but I have got to say this) I'm Swedish AND an ex-sailor and I have never heard of anybody who uses the word Hammer in that way. But I think I'll introduce it for my friends. For all you out there in space I'll recommend the expression "Slem Helge". That's the same as "Familjelyckan". :-) tjosan -Daniel . 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Which Queen Elizabeth Hall? I remember going to a gig about 10 to 12 years ago at a place with a similar name. Would this be the one (in the UK) My memory of the event is somewhat hazy. Mike P For me, the one that takes the cake is Calvert's intro to "Test tube conceived" on the Queen Elisabth Hall album. The song's about test tube experiments, and Calvert states "you can see the results of these kind of experiments every time you go to a Hawkwind concert, actually..." or the other comment, regarding the bouncer that was on the front of the stage, "who is in fact, a trained NINGA! So stay back, we don't want to see anybody ningured.... or any ninguries...." 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I assume it has Ade Shaw on it, which would make this technically a HW related post, but oh well. > From: Woronzow Records > Subject: New Bevis Frond Album > Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:42:50 +-100 > > It's escaped,and no one man has the strength to force it back into it's > jewel case.The Bevis Frond's new album,Son of Walter,is now available on CD > or Double Vinyl.It's faster than a speeding bully,harder than Justin > Edinburgh,and longer than any known CD (79:17).Much guitar widdlin',chunky > organ (oo-er missus),harmony vocals,and psychedelic pyrotechnics. > Get it now to avoid disappointment (Nick will be very disappointed if you > don't buy it). > CD ?10, Double Vinyl ?12. > P+P,see ordering info at our web site. > > You can hear a sample of this album at our web site. > ___________________________________________________________ > Woronzow Records Homepage:http://www.thenerve2.com/woronzow > e-mail:distort at woronzow.netkonect.co.uk ___________________ > Son of Walter.The new album from The Bevis Frond. > Available Now. From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Tue Sep 17 03:57:35 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 07:57:35 UT Subject: me, myself and I Message-ID: Mike Are you Steve Swann in disguise? :) - Andy From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 17 04:04:15 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 09:04:15 +0100 Subject: HW:introductions In-Reply-To: <01BBA475.8BB75F40@dhcp-3.tadpole.co.uk> from "Mike Parkington" at Sep 17, 96 08:52:23 am Message-ID: > What is this album you refer to here? Which Queen Elizabeth Hall? There is a live Calvert album titled _Live at Queen Elizabeth Hall_, or something very like that. That's QEH in London, in case there's another one :) I don't remember the recording date ... early 80s? I don't have the CD with me, but I recall members of ICU in the backing band, I think. Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************* Carl Edlund Anderson "So that's Terra. Oohwee, cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk look out wenchlings, here http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html come the Hawklords." cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk -Lord Lemmy (Hawkwind) ************************************************************************* From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 17 04:12:16 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 09:12:16 +0100 Subject: OFF: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19960917020849.008cc6ac@mailbox.mc.hik.se> from "Daniel Wikdahl" at Sep 17, 96 04:08:49 am Message-ID: > I could really use some help to know which cd I should buy next... my mus= > ic > taste is something like Blue OysterMagnetKyuss of ConformityTullSabbathWe= > en > and Scafell Pike! _Space Ritual_, _Doremi Fasol Latido_, and _Hall of the Mountain Grill_. That's the MonsterSabyuss side with a touch of something more prog like, perhaps not quite Tull, in HotMG. Then get _Levitation_ and _Chronicles of the Black Sword_ and/or _Live Chronicles_. That gets you a bit more of the BOC side and perhaps vaguely remeniscent of 80s Tull. Then get _Palace Springs_, eftersom jag haaller it is a great blend of the rock and electronic sides of Hawkwind :) > BTW 2 (Old thread I know but I have got to say this) I'm Swedish AND an > ex-sailor and I have never heard of anybody who uses the word Hammer in > that way. But I think I'll introduce it for my friends. For all you out > there in space I'll recommend the expression "Slem Helge". That's the sam= > e > as "Familjelyckan". :-) Oh, good. Always nice to learn some bits of Swedish they _don't_ teach you in your university course! ;) :) Cheers, Carl ********************************************************************** Carl Edlund Anderson ASNAC Dept., Cambridge U. cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk ********************************************************************** From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 17 04:26:34 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 09:26:34 +0100 Subject: The Reaper Midi In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19960916161024.1a1f9b22@buffnet.net> from "Joseph M. Lofft" at Sep 16, 96 03:22:22 pm Message-ID: > After listening to this midi file (with no drums or bass), and as much as I > hate to admit it, I think "The Reaper" would be excellent if it were > performed accoustically, i.e. on eMpTyV's "Unplugged". I can hear it > accompanied by a string section. Ah, well you should get the semi-acoustic version of Reaper on the Guitar for the Practicing Musician compilation Vol. 2 (I think that's the one). First half is Buck on acoustic (no string section that I recall though) up to the screaming guitar solo, and then it goes electric. A decent arrangement. I once though it would be interesting to do a cover version with vocal and piano up to the screaming guitar solo, and then go at it with a fun band, but never had the chance ... Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of ASNAC Studies, Cambridge U. * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From mumford at EUNET.NO Tue Sep 17 04:41:52 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:41:52 +0200 Subject: me, myself and I Message-ID: Mike Parkington wrote: > > Daniel, > > In my humble opinion (as we are wont to say) real goodies and a must in the collection are: > > Levitation > Hall of the Mountain Grill > Xenon Codex > Live Chronicles > PXR5 > Chuck in: Quark, Strangeness & Charm Space Ritual Electric Tepee X In Search of Space and if you can survive Moorcock's screaming, Warrior on the Edge of Time Christian From mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK Tue Sep 17 09:53:55 1996 From: mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK (Mike Parkington) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 09:53:55 +-100 Subject: me, myself and I Message-ID: Nope, Who is Steve Swann? I am definitely Mike Parkington. From Cambridge UK. Where are you? Yours in curiosity Mike P ---------- From: Andrew Gilham[SMTP:Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 1996 08:57 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: me, myself and I Mike Are you Steve Swann in disguise? :) - Andy begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(CD(`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$-@ 0` M`@````(``@`!!) &`#0!```!````# ````,``# #````"P`/#@`````"`?\/ M`0```%$`````````@2L?I+ZC$!F=;@#=`0]4`@````!"3T,O2&%W:W=I;F0@ M1&ES8W5S``(P`0````4```!33510`````!X``S !````%P```$)/0RU,0$Q)4U13 M15)6+E-00RY%1%4```,`%0P!`````P#^#P8````>``$P`0```!\````G0D]# M+TAA=VMW:6YD($1I`' ``0```!4```!213H@;64L(&UY'$' 1T+?#`""OQW1P```>`!X,`0````4```!3 M3510`````!X`'PP!````$@```&UD<$!T861P;VQE+F-O+G5K`````P`&$'.H M@/D#``<0$0$``!X`"! !````90```$Y/4$4L5TA/25-35$5615-704Y./TE! 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That's QEH in London, in case there's another one :) I don't remember the recording date ... early 80s? I don't have the CD with me, but I recall members of ICU in the backing band, I think. Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************* Carl Edlund Anderson "So that's Terra. Oohwee, cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk look out wenchlings, here http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html come the Hawklords." cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk -Lord Lemmy (Hawkwind) ************************************************************************* begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(C@(`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$-@ 0` M`@````(``@`!!) &`#0!```!````# ````,``# #````"P`/#@`````"`?\/ M`0```%$`````````@2L?I+ZC$!F=;@#=`0]4`@````!"3T,O2&%W:W=I;F0@ M1&ES8W5S``(P`0````4```!33510`````!X``S !````%P```$)/0RU,0$Q)4U13 M15)6+E-00RY%1%4```,`%0P!`````P#^#P8````>``$P`0```!\````G0D]# M+TAA=VMW:6YD($1I`' ``0```!4```!213H at 2%,$' 1T+?#`""OQW1P```>`!X,`0````4```!3 M3510`````!X`'PP!````$@```&UD<$!T861P;VQE+F-O+G5K`````P`&$-ZY M(0`#``<0#P,``!X`"! !````90```$-!4DPL5$A%4$Q!0T5)5T5.5%1/5T%3 M24Y%251(15),551/3D]21%5.4U1!0DQ%25)%04Q,64-!3E1214U%34)%4E=( M15)%+$)55$E45T%32$%72U=)3D1!3D1.3U1)0U5)0T4``````@$)$ $```!7 M`P``4P,``.\%``!,6D9U4';E,_\`"@$/`A4"J 7K`H,`4 +R"0(`8V@*P'-E M=#(W!@`&PP*#,@/%`@!P)S=&5M`H,S=P+D!Q,"@'T*@ C/"=D[\18/ M,C4U`H *@0VQ"V D;F0=1%P(B C"H4*A4UI:Q\`4"[Q+$P^(%<1 M@"11!" @L,X180+M(K`!RP=R@@)^ )!0B M0B+0*T$C5 0 at 7&]F)>(@4C]28@#0:W\HD0J%1> E0"00'X Y(FM]+8U#'O!$ MP1O6&Y(L3"I_2H]+GTRO3;].`DCY,:!D^PI )4%!)4!$P2$Q4,\S=UPB4R ` M.B(ZP50$D'+"82(@($]O:!^@) `+"H4?4&$!T$!C=7,2+B+0;2X`T"YU:_=1 M;U9Z%:!O5: (8"2!"?"_$7 ].7RR7+QOO'/\>#!4Q M`&O@``,`$! ``````P`1$ ````! `` 5`#T``0````4```!213H@`````"YD ` end From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 17 05:02:07 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:02:07 +0100 Subject: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <323E6450.7356@eunet.no> from "Christian Mumford" at Sep 17, 96 10:41:52 am Message-ID: > and if you can survive Moorcock's screaming, > Warrior on the Edge of Time And I suspect, if Jon's review is not merely a product of a HW-starved brain :), that the new Warrior-era Live album will be a "must have" .... Cheers, Carl ********************************************************************** Carl Edlund Anderson ASNAC Dept., Cambridge U. cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk ********************************************************************** From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Sep 17 05:55:13 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 10:55:13 +0100 Subject: HW: Live 1974 midi file! Tease! Tease! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Oooh! I've just heard there's a good chance one of the tracks from Live 1974 is going to be posted _somewhere_ on the net! Soon, too! It ain't gonna be Brainbox Pollution, either.... erm, Star Rats, is this you? Yours does seem the most likely download site. any news? I'm not joking, this album is at least the most exciting release since the re-masters and then some.. I mean, *new* Lemmy, Nik, Bob, Dave etc stuff!! Foam!! Drool!!! -- Jonny "White Jeans Off, Leather Trousers On" Karma! From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 17 07:40:49 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:40:49 +0100 Subject: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <01BBA47E.24A2BC60@dhcp-3.tadpole.co.uk> from "Mike Parkington" at Sep 17, 96 09:53:55 am Message-ID: > Who is Steve Swann? Founder and ex-moderator of the list, whose opinions are well known :) > I am definitely Mike Parkington. From Cambridge UK. Where are you? Ah, another Cantabrigian on the list! That makes three (or will once Jazza returns from his summer term exile in Rickmansworth in a few weeks)! Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************* Carl Edlund Anderson "So that's Terra. Oohwee, cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk look out wenchlings, here http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html come the Hawklords." cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk -Lord Lemmy (Hawkwind) ************************************************************************* From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Tue Sep 17 09:01:19 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:01:19 UT Subject: me, myself and I Message-ID: Mike Boc-l in-joke - Steve Swann is the venerable founder and ex-humble-moderator of boc-l, he always recommends Levitation and Live Chronicles to newbies, and he knows that I think they're among HW's poorest albums. I always recommend In Search of Space, Doremi, and Space Ritual. And after those, I recommend caution :) - Andy From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Sep 17 09:13:02 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 09:13:02 -0400 Subject: BOC: The Reaper Midi Message-ID: Joe sez: >After listening to this midi file (with no drums or bass), and as much as I hate to admit it, I think "The Reaper" would be excellent if it were performed accoustically, There is a recording of it - check out the CD, "Guitar for the Practicing Musician - Volume 3" - there's an acoustic version of "The Reaper" on it (Buck does it, with Chuck Burgi doing the drumwork). The "GftPM" is a series (3 I think) of CDs with tracks by various guitarists. Buck also has a track on Volume 1 - his instrumental "Gamera is Missing". Cool stuff. John From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Sep 17 09:18:17 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 09:18:17 -0400 Subject: The Reaper Midi Message-ID: Carl writes: > Ah, well you should get the semi-acoustic version of Reaper on the Guitar for the Practicing Musician compilation Vol. 2 (I think that's the one). First half is Buck on acoustic (no string section that I recall though) up to the screaming guitar solo, and then it goes electric. A decent arrangement. Oops, looks like Carl beat me to this - however, it's Vol 3, not 2 that has the Reaper. As I recall in the liner notes, Buck mentions that he used to do the song with his band "The Red and the Black" in a similar manner. John From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Mon Sep 16 20:44:57 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:44:57 +1100 Subject: HW:introductions Message-ID: Mike Parkington wrote: > > Max, > > What is this album you refer to here? Which Queen Elizabeth Hall? I > remember going to a gig about 10 to 12 years ago at a place with a similar > name. Would this be the one (in the UK) My memory of the event is somewhat > hazy. > > Mike P The album is called "Robert Calvert at the Queen Elizabeth Hall", as in part of the South Bank Complex. It was recorded on the 1st of October, in 1986. Very damn darn jolly nice album, that... You were bloody lucky if you were there... -Max Wilcox From mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK Tue Sep 17 15:27:18 1996 From: mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK (Mike Parkington) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:27:18 +-100 Subject: me, myself and I Message-ID: Ah, I see, it all becomes clear. I guess that a lot of it is to do with how you rate Huw L-L. I have always been a big fan of his playing. However, If I had to be honest the albums that really got me into HW were Hall of the Mountain Grill, PXR5, Doremi and Warrior. Incidentally, is the Mountain Grill still going. I made my pilgrimage about 15 years or more ago. I get the feeling that something like that must have been pulled to the ground or bought out by Macburgerkingwoppawendy by now. What happened to Steve anyhow? Mike P. Mike Boc-l in-joke - Steve Swann is the venerable founder and ex-humble-moderator of boc-l, he always recommends Levitation and Live Chronicles to newbies, and he knows that I think they're among HW's poorest albums. I always recommend In Search of Space, Doremi, and Space Ritual. And after those, I recommend caution :) - Andy begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(A,.`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$-@ 0` M`@````(``@`!!) &`#0!```!````# ````,``# #````"P`/#@`````"`?\/ M`0```%$`````````@2L?I+ZC$!F=;@#=`0]4`@````!"3T,O2&%W:W=I;F0@ M1&ES8W5S``(P`0````4```!33510`````!X``S !````%P```$)/0RU,0$Q)4U13 M15)6+E-00RY%1%4```,`%0P!`````P#^#P8````>``$P`0```!\````G0D]# M+TAA=VMW:6YD($1I`' ``0```!4```!213H@;64L(&UY`!X,`0````4```!3 M3510`````!X`'PP!````$@```&UD<$!T861P;VQE+F-O+G5K`````P`&$(?K M>( #``<0LP(``!X`"! !````90```$%(+$E3144L251!3$Q"14-/34530TQ% M05))1U5%4U-42$%404Q/5$]&251)4U1/1$]7251(2$]764]54D%414A55TPM M3$E(059%04Q705E30D5%3D%"24=&04Y/1DA)4U!,05D``````@$)$ $```!8 M`P``5 ,``"(%``!,6D9U3NYUW/\`"@$/`A4"J 7K`H,`4 +R"0(`8V@*P'-E M=#(W!@`&PP*#,@/%`@!P)S=&5M`H,S=P+D!Q,"@'T*@ C/"=D[\18/ M,C4U`H *@0VQ"V#D;F"8VQE"L N&R&V9PI0!!%T$8 ;L2 5H#D%0&]F&Y($`!UP;R". M9![0`_ =@"!H;P?@$GD(8"!R':!E($AB=0?@3"U,'.(1@';S(" '0'=A$[ < M`0GP'<%@8FEG(&8#D1XQ:*L>D0M1>0N 9QS at 2!^ NF4A$'(;$1Y (-)D'K)[ M'! ?86X'D 5 '8 A(F+<=6T=9180&]%Y'1 >`<\'@!N0`C >T$A7'Q $D.\@ M(1O2'C$EDDT(8 (P"W$<($<%$!O@&Q!06%):-1L01 6P$^!I&\!N/22 at 5PK M!1 %L!SA;F/^:0VP*3$FP1N!'6(H[AM _G0MHB<`(U,;, # #; G,)TFX' # M$ G !W!A9R$AY0;@=05 ,34?H!RQ!"#O!;$$8"@1+\!O'.,1P"6#VF8)X&PC M41UT$;4P,6(FX$T`T"7P$JX4SR:2$10V@#8 ,`')$>H_TE M0'0&Q JT0J%):%>:SEQ'64;,#-R:R6">5XG,4($8#*Q)\ G(O%O_RIQ M)6$EU#FM&S!*#BN1!E'7"L 1 5`#T``0````4```!213H@`````)QD ` end From stayer at PI.NET Tue Sep 17 02:59:19 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 23:59:19 PDT Subject: Cope Message-ID: >Krautrocksampler: 0-9526719-1-3 >Head-On: 0-9526719-0-5 >Publisher for both: >Head Heritage >KAK Ltd >PO Box 3823 >London N8 8TQ Thanks for the info! Jerry From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Tue Sep 17 11:45:31 1996 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:45:31 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I Message-ID: Mike Parkington asks: Who is Steve Swann? Mike, this is one of the great philosophical questions of our time... :-) From acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK Tue Sep 17 10:56:18 1996 From: acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK (Andy C) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:56:18 +0100 Subject: HW: Abducted ! Message-ID: I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but as I arrived here after the release of Alien 4 I'll bring it up again. The sleeve notes for "abducted" give the credits to "Brock/Tree" but to me those vocals sound a lot like Calvert. Is Ron Tree really responsible for those vocals ? Andy C From swann at MINDVOX.COM Tue Sep 17 12:21:25 1996 From: swann at MINDVOX.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:21:25 -0400 Subject: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Gilham" at Sep 17, 96 07:57:35 am Message-ID: Andrew Gilham writes: > > Mike > > Are you Steve Swann in disguise? :) > Alright, I admit it. I wasn't getting enough support for my opinions around here, so I've started logging in to other computer accounts and agreeing with myself. :) Dan Errr, I mean, Steve swann at panix.com From swann at MINDVOX.COM Tue Sep 17 12:28:44 1996 From: swann at MINDVOX.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:28:44 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <960917114530_103959914@emout12.mail.aol.com> from "DFrost8547@AOL.COM" at Sep 17, 96 11:45:31 am Message-ID: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM writes: > > Mike Parkington asks: > Who is Steve Swann? > > Mike, this is one of the great philosophical questions of our time... > :-) > And the answer is... (&@00 !^&!!^&&^^!^!#*&(*@)()@(*@ NO CARRIER From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Tue Sep 17 12:35:00 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:35:00 -0400 Subject: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <19960917162126.25081.qmail@mindvox.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Sep 1996, Stephen Swann wrote: > From: Stephen Swann > Alright, I admit it. I wasn't getting enough support for my opinions > around here, so I've started logging in to other computer accounts > and agreeing with myself. :) > > Dan > Errr, I mean, > Steve > swann at panix.com Well, at least that explains why you sign off as "swann at panix.com" in your signature, but have a return address of "swann at mindvox.com" in your e-mail headers... ;-) Cheers, Paul. obCD: The Bevis Frond, _Any Gas Faster_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 17 18:10:14 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:10:14 BST Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: DFrost8547@aol.com's message of Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:45:31 -0400 Message-ID: DFrost8547 at aol.com writes: > Mike Parkington asks: > Who is Steve Swann? > > Mike, this is one of the great philosophical questions of our time... > :-) before or after Ayn Rand..... 8-) ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM Tue Sep 17 13:12:40 1996 From: Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:12:40 -0500 Subject: HW: Live 1974 midi file! Tease! Tease! Message-ID: At 10:55 AM 9/17/96 +0100, you wrote: >Oooh! I've just heard there's a good chance one of the tracks from Live >1974 is going to be posted _somewhere_ on the net! Soon, too! > >It ain't gonna be Brainbox Pollution, either.... > >erm, Star Rats, is this you? Yours does seem the most likely download >site. any news? No. The album hasn't even been mixed down yet and any tracks that are circulating are either from bootlegs or some other 'un-official' source. I would also like to ask that if any tracks are found to be on the net anywhere, that we be told; this is a very special release and it would be a shame to have poor quality tracks out there. I am just about to update the Hawkwind News section of the site with the latest info on the release of this album, take a look later today or early tomorrow. Yours, Star Rats From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 17 18:27:54 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:27:54 BST Subject: no more Mountain Grill In-Reply-To: Mike Parkington's message of Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:27:18 +-100 Message-ID: Mike Parkington writes: > Mountain Grill, PXR5, Doremi and Warrior. Incidentally, is the Mountain > Grill still going. I made my pilgrimage about 15 years or more ago. I get > the feeling that something like that must have been pulled to the ground or > bought out by Macburgerkingwoppawendy by now. almost. I think it's a book or a clothes shop now. At any rate it's not there no more. The underpass is still standing though - along with a thriving open market last time I was down there. So maybe we could get Hawkwind to do a John Michel Jarre type of act under the Ladbroke Grove underpass and put on a lightshow performance that would stop the London traffic on the M-whatever it is totally! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 17 13:41:54 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:41:54 +0100 Subject: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <19960917162126.25081.qmail@mindvox.com> from "Stephen Swann" at Sep 17, 96 12:21:25 pm Message-ID: > Andrew Gilham writes: > > Mike > > Are you Steve Swann in disguise? :) > > Alright, I admit it. I wasn't getting enough support for my opinions > around here, so I've started logging in to other computer accounts > and agreeing with myself. :) > Dan > Errr, I mean, > Steve > swann at panix.com Ah! So, as usual, we _can_ blame Steve Swann ... ;) Cheers, Carl From Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM Tue Sep 17 13:14:30 1996 From: Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:14:30 -0500 Subject: HW:introductions Message-ID: > The album is called "Robert Calvert at the Queen Elizabeth Hall", as >in part of the South Bank Complex. It was recorded on the 1st of >October, in 1986. Very damn darn jolly nice album, that... You were >bloody lucky if you were there... >-Max Wilcox The album was originally released mail-order only and came in a limited edition gatefold sleeve, t-shirt, poster and button badge. Star Rats From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 17 13:45:05 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:45:05 +0100 Subject: no more Mountain Grill In-Reply-To: <9609171827.aa27684@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> from "J Strobridge" at Sep 17, 96 06:27:54 pm Message-ID: > So maybe we could get Hawkwind to do a John Michel Jarre type of > act under the Ladbroke Grove underpass and put on a lightshow > performance that would stop the London traffic on the M-whatever it is > totally! That would be highly worthwhile. I think they should do it :) At the very least they should get Brock down there busking with an acoustic and see how many people notice :) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************* Carl Edlund Anderson "So that's Terra. Oohwee, cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk look out wenchlings, here http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html come the Hawklords." cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk -Lord Lemmy (Hawkwind) ************************************************************************* From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 17 13:48:52 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:48:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Abducted ! In-Reply-To: <01BBA4BB.59AA6740@slagfarm.demon.co.uk> from "Andy C" at Sep 17, 96 03:56:18 pm Message-ID: > I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but as I arrived here after the > release of Alien 4 I'll bring it up again. > The sleeve notes for "abducted" give the credits to "Brock/Tree" but to me > those vocals sound a lot like Calvert. Is Ron Tree really responsible for > those vocals ? Indeed he is. Amazing is it not. He manages a fair Calvert impression at those times when he's not screwing something up horribly, (though in truth, we must lay a certain amount of blame on the whole band for travesties like "Beam Me Up" ;) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of ASNAC Studies, Cambridge U. * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Sep 17 09:50:50 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 14:50:50 +0100 Subject: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Andrew Gilham writes >I always recommend In Search of Space, Doremi, and Space Ritual. And after >those, I recommend caution :) > >- Andy If I can just barge in here, I'd say it's Xenon Codex and Electric Tepee you'll be needing sir, and perhaps something for the weekend? Suit you, sir? -- Jon Browne From mjf at GRAHAM.COM Tue Sep 17 15:01:17 1996 From: mjf at GRAHAM.COM (Mike Fuller) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 12:01:17 -0700 Subject: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >>>>> On Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:01:19 UT, Andrew Gilham >>>>> said: Andrew> Boc-l in-joke - Steve Swann is the venerable founder and Andrew> ex-humble-moderator of boc-l Is that "ex-humble, moderator" or "ex, humble moderator"? ;-) Andrew> He always recommends Levitation and Live Chronicles to newbies, Andrew> and he knows that I think they're among HW's poorest albums. He also recommends Imaginos for BOC newbies, even though he knows that (apologies to Al) I gave it so low a rating in the BOC album poll that it pulled it down a notch. Also, don't forget that everything is, by default, Steve's fault. -- "X In Search of Disk Space" Mike From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Tue Sep 17 15:20:45 1996 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:20:45 -0400 Subject: BOC in OKLA? Message-ID: Bad news, Manuel. I called Cains Ballroom today and asked about the REO date. The band with REO is Barton & Sweeney. I mentioned BOC touring with REO occasionally this summer and he said they weren't on the bill. Sorry. Ric From jguizar at EPIX.NET Tue Sep 17 15:29:42 1996 From: jguizar at EPIX.NET (Jerry Guizar) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:29:42 -0400 Subject: OFF: CD Storage Info In-Reply-To: <960916181112_286260124@emout11.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: In <960916181112_286260124 at emout11.mail.aol.com>, on 09/16/96 at 06:11 PM, Rocker22 at AOL.COM said: >In a message dated 96-09-16 16:37:04 EDT, you write: ><< Why order a fourth? It would be cheaper to just clear out one of >those > drawers - say starting around the letter H, and mailing them to me! ;{} > Jerry > >> >Sorry, Jerry. I couldn't afford the postage to send that many CD's. >:-( No problemo, I'll cover the shipping. :-) Jerry ----------------------------------------------------------- jguizar at epix.net ----------------------------------------------------------- From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Tue Sep 17 16:33:43 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:33:43 EST Subject: HW tyro Message-ID: HW aficianadoes, The record shop next door has the following: Electric Tepee Out and Intake Live--the Business Trip [dang--I should get that just for the title!] Friends and Relations Acid Daze v.1-v.3 I'm thinking of taking the fateful step into HW madness. Having never heard the group [but liking what I've heard from you all] I'm wondering if any of these are worthwhile? theo From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Tue Sep 17 16:35:10 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:35:10 EST Subject: me, myself and I Message-ID: > > He also recommends Imaginos for BOC newbies, even though he knows that > (apologies to Al) I gave it so low a rating in the BOC album poll that > it pulled it down a notch. > > What, you trashed Imaginos? Heresy! Explain yourself! From jguizar at EPIX.NET Tue Sep 17 15:43:29 1996 From: jguizar at EPIX.NET (Jerry Guizar) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:43:29 -0400 Subject: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <01BBA4AC.B71D46E0@dhcp-3.tadpole.co.uk> Message-ID: In <01BBA4AC.B71D46E0 at dhcp-3.tadpole.co.uk>, on 09/17/96 at 03:27 PM, Mike Parkington said: >Ah, I see, it all becomes clear. I guess that a lot of it is to do with >how you rate Huw L-L. I have always been a big fan of his playing. >However, If I had to be honest the albums that really got me into HW were >Hall of the Mountain Grill, PXR5, Doremi and Warrior. Incidentally, is >the Mountain Grill still going. I made my pilgrimage about 15 years or >more ago. I get the feeling that something like that must have been >pulled to the ground or bought out by Macburgerkingwoppawendy by now. >Boc-l in-joke - Steve Swann is the venerable founder and >ex-humble-moderator >of boc-l, he always recommends Levitation and Live Chronicles to newbies, >and >he knows that I think they're among HW's poorest albums. >I always recommend In Search of Space, Doremi, and Space Ritual. And >after those, I recommend caution :) >- Andy I like their albums up to (and including) Quark, Strangeness, and Charm the best. Maybe it's because it reminds me of some of the crazy stuff I used to do back then and kinda miss now and then. Jerry ----------------------------------------------------------- jguizar at epix.net ----------------------------------------------------------- From mjf at GRAHAM.COM Tue Sep 17 16:07:08 1996 From: mjf at GRAHAM.COM (Mike Fuller) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 13:07:08 -0700 Subject: HW tyro In-Reply-To: <365494366E2@hawk.syr.edu> Message-ID: >>>>> On Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:33:43 EST, "Ted Jackson jr. EL 84" >>>>> said: Theo> HW aficianadoes, The record shop next door has the following: Theo> Electric Tepee Theo> Out and Intake Theo> Live--the Business Trip [dang--I should get that just for the title!] Theo> Friends and Relations Theo> Acid Daze v.1-v.3 Theo> I'm thinking of taking the fateful step into HW madness. Having Theo> never heard the group [but liking what I've heard from you all] Theo> I'm wondering if any of these are worthwhile? I'm not familiar with Acid Daze because I've avoided compilations as much as possible, but I'd say that The Business Trip is the best pick out of a weak bunch. If you're low on cash, I'd hold out for one of the more common recommendations like Space Ritual Alive or Levitation. -- Mike From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 17 16:10:41 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 21:10:41 +0100 Subject: HW tyro In-Reply-To: <365494366E2@hawk.syr.edu> from "Ted Jackson jr. EL 84" at Sep 17, 96 03:33:43 pm Message-ID: > HW aficianadoes, > The record shop next door has the following: > Electric Tepee > Out and Intake > Live--the Business Trip [dang--I should get that just for the title!] > Friends and Relations > Acid Daze v.1-v.3 Of those I recommend _The Business Trip_ and _Electric Teepee_ most. _BT_ is pretty good, and the actual rock tracks on _ET_ are tremendous (the other half of the album ... depends on how much you like ambient floaty stuff :) _Acid Daze_ has some great moments, but is really rather a mixed bag of random stuff from various periods, some of which is quite dodgy. Same with _Out and Intake_, IMO, except some Hawkfans don't even rate it as highly as I do, I think :) _F&R_ I'm not sure actually has that much Hawkwind on it! Probably none of your choices are what people would call the cream of classic HW, especially for a BOC fan, but the first two I suggest I like very well myself--I _did_ bring _ET_ to England with me, after all ... :) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************* Carl Edlund Anderson "So that's Terra. Oohwee, cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk look out wenchlings, here http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html come the Hawklords." cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk -Lord Lemmy (Hawkwind) ************************************************************************* From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 17 16:18:58 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 21:18:58 +0100 Subject: OFF: Musikfolk (a shop in London?) Message-ID: Has anyone on the list heard of an outfit in London called "Musikfolk", either a shop or a mail-order place? Someone told me I should check them out, but I hadn't heard of them before ... If anyone _has_ heard of these people, do let me know where/how they might be found ... Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of ASNAC Studies, Cambridge U. * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From kalex at EECS.UMICH.EDU Tue Sep 17 16:29:49 1996 From: kalex at EECS.UMICH.EDU (Ken Alexander) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:29:49 -0400 Subject: calvert site Message-ID: The amazing Calvert web site continues to grow. ========== fwd: > yes, once again something new on the Calvert site - and interesting for all > the Hawkfans as well, I think - a complete EXTRA page on Michael Moorcock - > his own works and collaborations with Calvert and Hawkwind. > it included texts and interviews by Moorcock, lot pics, the lyrics of 'Sonic > Attack' (plus sound-files), more Moorcock links and more...- go to: > http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/moorcock.htm > > and there's also a new statement on Bob Calvert by Paul Rudolph: > http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/calon.htm > > and various new pics, texts, lyrics and more...spread all over the Calvert > site - find out all about it on the Calvert NEWS page: > http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/calnews.htm > > as always...I am grateful if you'd spread the NEWS... > THANKS, > Knut > VideoFest > Mediopolis Berlin e.V. > Potsdamer Strasse 96 > D-10785 Berlin > Phone *49 30 262 87 14 > Fax *49 30 262 87 13 > videofest at mediopolis.de > http://www.mediopolis.de/videofest/ From halligbt at BIGVAX.ALFRED.EDU Tue Sep 17 17:31:45 1996 From: halligbt at BIGVAX.ALFRED.EDU (BRIAN HALLIGAN) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:31:45 EST Subject: HW tyro Message-ID: >>>>>> On Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:33:43 EST, "Ted Jackson jr. EL 84" >>>>>> said: >Theo> HW aficianadoes, The record shop next door has the following: >Theo> Electric Tepee >Theo> Out and Intake >Theo> Live--the Business Trip [dang--I should get that just for the title!] >Theo> Friends and Relations >Theo> Acid Daze v.1-v.3 >Theo> I'm thinking of taking the fateful step into HW madness. Having >Theo> never heard the group [but liking what I've heard from you all] >Theo> I'm wondering if any of these are worthwhile? >I'm not familiar with Acid Daze because I've avoided compilations as >much as possible, but I'd say that The Business Trip is the best pick >out of a weak bunch. If you're low on cash, I'd hold out for one of the >more common recommendations like Space Ritual Alive or Levitation. >-- > Mike Theo, The Media Play at Shoppingtown Mall has "Levitation". I agree with Mike that it's one of the best BOC->HW transition albums. I started out with Hall Of The Mountain Grill, which I don't think is sold anywhere around Syracuse anymore. After HotMG, I've ended up getting Doremi, Quark, 25 Years On, Levitation, Chronicles, the Spirit of the Age comp., and Alien 4. All of these are good IMHO, but the singing style on Quark and 25 Years On took a little while to get used to. Good luck! Brian From uriah at HERMITAGE.RU Tue Sep 17 16:35:59 1996 From: uriah at HERMITAGE.RU (Yuri Elik) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 00:35:59 +0400 Subject: HW tyro Message-ID: Ted Jackson jr. EL 84 wrote: > I'm thinking of taking the fateful step into HW madness. Having > never heard the group [but liking what I've heard from you all] I'm > wondering if any of these are worthwhile? I'd recommend Electric Tepee and Business Trip to get impression about the band's recent activities (I personally like ET more). Acid Daze is a compilation of live tracks that will give you a good idea about the band's history (I especially love its version of High Rise) BTW does anybody here have some info about when & where the tracks from Acid Daze were recorded? My records' covers have only song titles. Yuri From mlooney at IONET.NET Tue Sep 17 16:33:09 1996 From: mlooney at IONET.NET (J. Michael Looney) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:33:09 -0400 Subject: BOC in OKLA? Message-ID: At 03:20 PM 9/17/96 -0400, you wrote: >I called Cains Ballroom today and asked about the REO date. The band with >REO is Barton & Sweeney. I mentioned BOC touring with REO occasionally this >summer and he said they weren't on the bill. This, in a word, sucks. I will still be going to the REO concert, but I really would like to have seen both... Grunt. -- Geek code: GAT -d---(----) H+ s:-- g+(?) p0? au a w+++ v-(++)*? C++++$ U?++++ P+ L 3 N+++ K W+++ m-- v-- -po+ Y+ t++ 5 j R+++ G' !tv(--) b+++ D++ B--- e+ u--(+)(**) h f+(?) r+++ n++ y+++(**) http://www.ionet.net/~mlooney/index.shtml From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Tue Sep 17 16:49:50 1996 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:49:50 -0400 Subject: OFF: CD Storage Info Message-ID: In a message dated 96-09-17 15:31:41 EDT, you write: << << Why order a fourth? It would be cheaper to just clear out one of >those > drawers - say starting around the letter H, and mailing them to me! ;{} > Jerry > >> >Sorry, Jerry. I couldn't afford the postage to send that many CD's. >:-( No problemo, I'll cover the shipping. :-) Jerry >> WOW!! What a guy you are, Jerry!! How can I resist such a GENEROUS offer??? (Don't worry, I'll find a way...) ;-) R. From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Tue Sep 17 17:09:55 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 21:09:55 UT Subject: HW: Abducted ! Message-ID: Andy C said >The sleeve notes for "abducted" give the credits to "Brock/Tree" but to me >those vocals sound a lot like Calvert. Do you think so? I don't think Calvert ever entirely lost his South African accent (even if he did leave there as a child). He also had a rather "stagey" way of declaiming his lines, which Ron tries to imitate, but doesn't quite master... - Andy (G) From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 17 18:17:10 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 23:17:10 +0100 Subject: HW: Abducted ! In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Gilham" at Sep 17, 96 09:09:55 pm Message-ID: > >The sleeve notes for "abducted" give the credits to "Brock/Tree" but to me > >those vocals sound a lot like Calvert. > > Do you think so? I don't think Calvert ever entirely lost his South African > accent (even if he did leave there as a child). He also had a rather "stagey" > way of declaiming his lines, which Ron tries to imitate, but doesn't quite > master... On the other hand, the other person who Ron continually reminds me of is (terrifyingly enough) Richard E. Grant (!) who, interestingly, grew up in South Africa ... Cheers, Carl From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Tue Sep 17 18:23:12 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:23:12 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I Message-ID: ---------- From: Stephen Swann[SMTP:swann at MINDVOX.COM] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 1996 12:28 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: OFF: Re: me, myself and I DFrost8547 at AOL.COM writes: > > Mike Parkington asks: > Who is Steve Swann? > > Mike, this is one of the great philosophical questions of our time... > :-) > And the answer is... (&@00 !^&!!^&&^^!^!#*&(*@)()@(*@ NO CARRIER No, no, no!! The answer is "49"! Silly Steve! Got your towel??? Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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"Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Sep 17 15:48:37 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 20:48:37 +0100 Subject: HW tyro In-Reply-To: <365494366E2@hawk.syr.edu> Message-ID: In message <365494366E2 at hawk.syr.edu>, "Ted Jackson jr. EL 84" writes >HW aficianadoes, >The record shop next door has the following: > >Electric Tepee >Out and Intake >Live--the Business Trip [dang--I should get that just for the title!] >Friends and Relations >Acid Daze v.1-v.3 > >I'm thinking of taking the fateful step into HW madness. Having >never heard the group [but liking what I've heard from you all] I'm >wondering if any of these are worthwhile? >theo Electic Tepee is "the dog's bollocks" as it were. English expression. Does it translate? :) -- Jon Browne From mannyrp at SPRYNET.COM Wed Sep 18 01:24:50 1996 From: mannyrp at SPRYNET.COM (Richard Manny) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 22:24:50 -0700 Subject: BOC: The Reaper Midi Message-ID: John A Swartz wrote: > check out the CD, "Guitar for the Practicing > Musician - Volume 3" - there's an acoustic version of "The Reaper" on > it (Buck does it, with Chuck Burgi doing the drumwork). The "GftPM" > is a series (3 I think) of CDs with tracks by various guitarists. Buck > also has a track on Volume 1 - his instrumental "Gamera is Missing". > Cool stuff. Dear John, I've been looking for these CDs for quite a while. Which label are they under? With best regards, Richard Manny P.S. I've always wanted to write a "Dear John" letter. From aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU Wed Sep 18 00:21:28 1996 From: aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU (Duane Hoyt) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 00:21:28 -0400 Subject: HW tyro Message-ID: > >HW aficianadoes, >The record shop next door has the following: > >Electric Tepee >Out and Intake >Live--the Business Trip [dang--I should get that just for the title!] >Friends and Relations >Acid Daze v.1-v.3 > >I'm thinking of taking the fateful step into HW madness. Having >never heard the group [but liking what I've heard from you all] I'm >wondering if any of these are worthwhile? >theo > > theo, I highly recommend Electric Tepee. You can't go wrong with the Acid Daze Anthology either. Duane From mjf at GRAHAM.COM Wed Sep 18 01:06:39 1996 From: mjf at GRAHAM.COM (Mike Fuller) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 22:06:39 -0700 Subject: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <3654FC22B5E@hawk.syr.edu> Message-ID: >>>>> On Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:35:10 EST, "Ted Jackson jr. EL 84" >>>>> said: >> He also recommends Imaginos for BOC newbies, even though he knows that >> (apologies to Al) I gave it so low a rating in the BOC album poll that >> it pulled it down a notch. > What, you trashed Imaginos? Heresy! Explain yourself! I'm not sure I can describe why I don't like it. I just never feel the desire to listen to it. I've listened to it about 5 times in 7 years, and the last 3 were only because so many people said it was good that I thought I must be missing something. The only explanation I can think of is that the versions of Astronomy and Subhuman are so lacking in over-the-top guitar and keyboards compared to the originals that they probably turn me off to the rest of the album. "A star" twang twang Gag. But, for sake of symmetry, I do like "I Am the One You Warned Me Of", which Steve thinks is the weakest song on the album. -- Mike From mumford at EUNET.NO Wed Sep 18 03:38:55 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 09:38:55 +0200 Subject: HW tyro Message-ID: Ted Jackson jr. EL 84 wrote: > > Electric Tepee > Live--the Business Trip [dang--I should get that just for the title!] Definetly get these, they are arguably their best 90's albums. > Acid Daze v.1-v.3 And maybe these - I only have one of these, pretty patchy live stuff but not bad overall. Christian From mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK Wed Sep 18 08:52:11 1996 From: mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK (Mike Parkington) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 08:52:11 +-100 Subject: HW:Calvert Message-ID: OK, up until now I must admit that I had no real interest in the band (HW) as actual individuals, just in the music the produce(d). Since subscribing to this list I am getting more curious about the people, especially Calvert whom I don't believe I have ever seen live with or without the band (I am told that "if you had seen him you would remember"). I am just about to head off to the Calvert site (thanks for the details Ken) to learn more. There must be video footage of Calvert in full flow available, what would you suggest and where would I get hold of it? Mike P (not Mr Swann) From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Wed Sep 18 06:26:14 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:26:14 +1100 Subject: me, myself and I Message-ID: On 17 Sep 96 at 13:01, Andrew Gilham wrote: > I always recommend In Search of Space, Doremi, and Space Ritual. And after > those, I recommend caution :) Oooohhh ...... that's one I *don't* have ;^) Sonique -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Thu Sep 19 01:41:54 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 07:41:54 +0200 Subject: me, myself and I Message-ID: >I'm not sure I can describe why I don't like it. I just never feel the >desire to listen to it. I've listened to it about 5 times in 7 years, >and the last 3 were only because so many people said it was good that I >thought I must be missing something. The only explanation I can think >of is that the versions of Astronomy and Subhuman are so lacking in >over-the-top guitar and keyboards compared to the originals that they >probably turn me off to the rest of the album. > > "A star" > twang twang > >Gag. But, for sake of symmetry, I do like "I Am the One You Warned Me >Of", which Steve thinks is the weakest song on the album. > >-- > Mike > There you go... you've got the answers to your strange opinions yourself! And that is not a bad start. When I first bought Imaginos the only song I liked was "I Am the One..." and it's also the only one that my (not-so-BOC-friendly) friends like. I'll guess it's because it's a pretty "catchy" tune. In a way a very standard first track. But when I'm listening to Imaginos these days I often end up programming all the songs with the exception of "I Am the One...". I'm so tired of it, and it also has some kind of disturbing handclap (or something... as usual I can't remember -I have to go home and check it out :-) in the backgroundmixing. The other songs on the album have just kept on growing and growing during the years. And also think it's unnecessary to compare the original versions of Astronomy and Subhuman to Imaginos versions. The difference are so big that I tend to look at them as different songs with just the same title (...well, I know "BOC" and not Subhuman on Imaginos... but you get the point don't you?), and they are all great. But, on the other hand, when I'm listening to Cult Classics I often get the feeling of something missing... I just wonder how long time did this recording take? It's sounds like a weekend job! And the kareoke versions of "Godzilla" and "Reaper", why are they there at all? This became a longer mail than I thought in the beginning, but I think you get my point Mike -there is still hope for you too! ;-) tjaba -Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Sep 17 13:01:41 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:01:41 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <19960917162844.25235.qmail@mindvox.com> Message-ID: In message <19960917162844.25235.qmail at mindvox.com>, Stephen Swann writes >DFrost8547 at AOL.COM writes: >> >> Mike Parkington asks: >> Who is Steve Swann? >> >> Mike, this is one of the great philosophical questions of our time... >> :-) >> > >And the answer is... >(&@00 >!^&!!^&&^^!^!#*&(*@)()@(*@ >NO CARRIER No, *I'm* Steve Swann! -- Jon Browne From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Sep 17 12:59:48 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:59:48 +0100 Subject: Cope In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Jerry writes >>Krautrocksampler: 0-9526719-1-3 >>Head-On: 0-9526719-0-5 >>Publisher for both: >>Head Heritage >>KAK Ltd >>PO Box 3823 >>London N8 8TQ > >Thanks for the info! > >Jerry Keep it in the family, score them off Wylie *and* save on international postage! -- Jon Browne From mordru at MAGG.NET Wed Sep 18 08:40:56 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 08:40:56 -0400 Subject: HW: Caution :) Message-ID: >On 17 Sep 96 at 13:01, Andrew Gilham wrote: > >> I always recommend In Search of Space, Doremi, and Space Ritual. And after >> those, I recommend caution :) > >Oooohhh ...... that's one I *don't* have ;^) It's not surprising, "Caution :)" (the emoticon is part of the title) is one of the least known of all Hawkwind's albums. I don't think even Bernard has a copy of it. It was recorded during a number of secret recording sessions througout the mid '80's, with Lemmy guesting on a few tracks. The project was done in secret without the knowledge of DS, who promptly shelved the project and forced Griffin to destroy most of their copies which were about to ship. However, due to a mix-up, a few hundred were pressed onto CD's labeled "Jane's greatest hits", and thus escaped this purge. Griffin kept a few that were returned by angry Jane fans, but I don't think any are left. None of the tracks on this album were ever performed live (I think), since the band were understandably bitter over the matter. In fact, they never speak of it, and often deny involvement in it outright. Track List: Precaution - spacy intro Caution - great rocking track with real blanga feel. Emoticon Danger Will Robinson - lots of samples Counterstorm Protoculture The Eleventh Second of Forever The High Crusade ======== +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm From mumford at EUNET.NO Wed Sep 18 08:57:27 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:57:27 +0200 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I Message-ID: Jon Browne wrote: > No, *I'm* Steve Swann! > -- Who's Steve Swann? Christian From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Sep 18 08:55:15 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 08:55:15 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I Message-ID: >No, no, no!! The answer is "49"! Silly Steve! Got your towel??? Don't you mean "42"? John From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Sep 18 08:55:06 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:55:06 +0100 Subject: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <199609180506.WAA10936@yoyodyne.graham.com> from "Mike Fuller" at Sep 17, 96 10:06:39 pm Message-ID: > But, for sake of symmetry, I do like "I Am the One You Warned Me > Of", which Steve thinks is the weakest song on the album. Well, that just goes to show what _Steve_ knows ... :) Certainly one of my favorites from the album (along with Siege & Investiture ... :) Cheers, Carl ********************************************************************** Carl Edlund Anderson ASNAC Dept., Cambridge U. cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk ********************************************************************** From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Sep 18 09:02:04 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 09:02:04 -0400 Subject: BOC: The Reaper Midi Message-ID: >I've been looking for these CDs for quite a while. Which label are they under? I'll have to go check. I believe that these CDs (Guitar for the Practicing Musician, or something like that) were released by the magazine of the same name. Check the compilation sections of you local record stores. >P.S. I've always wanted to write a "Dear John" letter. Just what I need, another one . . . ;-) Actually, I'm not proud (but not ashamed) to say that I once received a "Dear John letter" (in the traditional use of the term). John From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Sep 18 09:04:37 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:04:37 +0100 Subject: HW: etc. (was Re: Abducted !Go to bed!) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19960918044510.008f76f4@mailbox.mc.hik.se> from "Daniel Wikdahl" at Sep 18, 96 06:45:10 am Message-ID: > Carl! Don't you ever sleep? It's very late in the UK right now and you > oughta be in bed! You're not in America any longer! :-) I would like to point out that it was even _later_ in Sweden when you wrote this :) :) ;) Actually, I was up surfing the web collecting links for the catalogue of my music collection (the part that exists in the UK-- most of it in in the States!) which I just added to my web page for the benefit of the Cambridge University Rock Society. The list is there so members can browse my stuff and see if they want to borrow anything, but now that there are so many web links on it, the page has actually sort of developed a usefulness beyond that ... And in other news, I haven't completed the the Hawkfrendz Page yet, my sister has finished transfering the swooshy noises she made for my demo to ADAT so we can try mixing them properly at Christmas time, and Sonique: I'm at long last dubbing the Brixton HW gig tapes for you and eventually will even get to the requests from other people on the list ... Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************* Carl Edlund Anderson "So that's Terra. Oohwee, cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk look out wenchlings, here http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html come the Hawklords." cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk -Lord Lemmy (Hawkwind) ************************************************************************* From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Sep 18 09:05:17 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:05:17 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <323FF1B7.7588@eunet.no> from "Christian Mumford" at Sep 18, 96 02:57:27 pm Message-ID: > Jon Browne wrote: > > No, *I'm* Steve Swann! > > Who's Steve Swann? > Christian You are. Cheers, Carl ********************************************************************** Carl Edlund Anderson ASNAC Dept., Cambridge U. cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk ********************************************************************** From mumford at EUNET.NO Wed Sep 18 09:52:18 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 15:52:18 +0200 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I Message-ID: Carl E. Anderson wrote: > > > Jon Browne wrote: > > > No, *I'm* Steve Swann! > > > > Who's Steve Swann? > > Christian > > You are. > > Cheers, > Carl Now I'm so confused I've broken all my clothes and wearing all my furniture upside-down! Steve From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 18 15:19:06 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 15:19:06 BST Subject: HW: Bath 2nd Nov gig - latest news? Message-ID: Is there any more news of the 12 hour gig in Bath? Will Hawkwind and Porcupine Tree be playing? Enquiring minds want to know. FoFP From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Sep 18 11:05:41 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 11:05:41 -0400 Subject: me, myself and I Message-ID: > But, for sake of symmetry, I do like "I Am the One You Warned Me > Of", which Steve thinks is the weakest song on the album. Well, that must mean that *I'm* not Steve Swann! John From swann at MINDVOX.COM Wed Sep 18 11:15:51 1996 From: swann at MINDVOX.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 11:15:51 -0400 Subject: HW tyro In-Reply-To: <365494366E2@hawk.syr.edu> from "Ted Jackson jr. EL 84" at Sep 17, 96 03:33:43 pm Message-ID: Ted Jackson jr. EL 84 writes: > > HW aficianadoes, > The record shop next door has the following: > > Electric Tepee > Out and Intake > Live--the Business Trip [dang--I should get that just for the title!] > Friends and Relations > Acid Daze v.1-v.3 > > I'm thinking of taking the fateful step into HW madness. Having > never heard the group [but liking what I've heard from you all] I'm > wondering if any of these are worthwhile? The Business Trip is pretty good. I think it's a good representation of some of the better moments of live "90's" Hawkwind. Realise that the 90's is my least favorite Hawkwind period... but I still like The Business Trip quite a bit, and I listen to it often. None of the rest are what I would pick to introduce somebody to Hawkwind. Steve swann at panix.com From stayer at PI.NET Wed Sep 18 02:30:44 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 23:30:44 PDT Subject: HW tyro Message-ID: Theo, >Electric Tepee >Out and Intake >Live--the Business Trip [dang--I should get that just for the title!] >Friends and Relations >Acid Daze v.1-v.3 >I'm thinking of taking the fateful step into HW madness. Having >never heard the group [but liking what I've heard from you all] I'm >wondering if any of these are worthwhile? I would definitely get some older stuff! (Up to 1979 or so.) Jerry From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Tue Sep 17 22:42:45 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:42:45 +1100 Subject: HW: Abducted ! Message-ID: Carl E. Anderson wrote: > > > >The sleeve notes for "abducted" give the credits to "Brock/Tree" but to me > > >those vocals sound a lot like Calvert. > > > > Do you think so? I don't think Calvert ever entirely lost his South African > > accent (even if he did leave there as a child). He also had a rather "stagey" > > way of declaiming his lines, which Ron tries to imitate, but doesn't quite > > master... > > On the other hand, the other person who Ron continually reminds > me of is (terrifyingly enough) Richard E. Grant (!) who, interestingly, > grew up in South Africa ... > > Cheers, > Carl That's a great idea! I think Mr E. Grant would be a wonderful adition to HW at the moment. Imagine this kind of spoken word on stage... "Withnail, do you want a silver machine?" "No." -Max Wilcox "G for Germany!!!!!" From pookadad at DELTANET.COM Wed Sep 18 12:01:24 1996 From: pookadad at DELTANET.COM (Michael G Karschner) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 09:01:24 -0700 Subject: BOC: The Reaper Midi Message-ID: John A Swartz wrote: > > >I've been looking for these CDs for quite a while. Which label are they under? > > I'll have to go check. I believe that these CDs (Guitar for the Practicing > Musician, or something like that) were released by the magazine of the same > name. Check the compilation sections of you local record stores. > The label is "Guitar Recordings," with distribution by "Important Record Distributors Inc." The CDs are "Guitar's Practicing Musicians," volumes 1-3, and I got mine (well, volume one anyway) from CDWorld (www.cdworld.com). I think CDNow (www.cdnow.com) has all three. -- Mike From Chris.O'Neill at CTS.ZENECA.COM Wed Sep 18 12:38:05 1996 From: Chris.O'Neill at CTS.ZENECA.COM (O'Neill Chris C) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 17:38:05 +0100 Subject: HW: Release Date for Love in Space Message-ID: When did Love in Space get its UK release ? I saw (and bought) it last saturday - only just seems to have surfaced in our local shops. Chris O'Neill From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 18 18:02:02 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:02:02 BST Subject: HW tyro In-Reply-To: Ted Jackson jr. EL 84's message of Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:33:43 EST Message-ID: Ted Jackson jr. EL 84 writes: > HW aficianadoes, > The record shop next door has the following: > > Electric Tepee > Out and Intake > Live--the Business Trip [dang--I should get that just for the title!] > Friends and Relations > Acid Daze v.1-v.3 > > I'm thinking of taking the fateful step into HW madness. Having > never heard the group [but liking what I've heard from you all] I'm > wondering if any of these are worthwhile? > theo Get the Business Trip for a good live uptodate example of their music but you really need a video as well to appreciate the light show that goes with it. Get Electric Tepee for an example of recent studio stuff (the two tend to be very different - recent studio albums IMO tend to ramble a bit and though the sound quality is usually excellent it takes a few live performances before the individual tracks take on their final form) but also see if you can find one of the earlier albums to see how their earlier work relates to their present day stuff. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 18 18:06:00 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:06:00 BST Subject: HW: Release Date for Love in Space In-Reply-To: O'Neill Chris C's message of Wed, 18 Sep 1996 17:38:05 +0100 Message-ID: O'Neill Chris C writes: > When did Love in Space get its UK release ? I saw (and bought) it last > saturday - only just seems to have surfaced in our local shops. > A few months ago now. There's a video going to be available soon too! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 18 18:21:00 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:21:00 BST Subject: HW tyro In-Reply-To: Yuri Elik's message of Wed, 18 Sep 1996 00:35:59 +0400 Message-ID: Yuri Elik writes: > BTW does anybody here have some info about when & where the tracks from > Acid Daze were recorded? My records' covers have only song titles. > the Codex will show you which were the original albums they were taken from and this will more or less give you the dates. However for full info there was a Brian Tawn booklet that came with the vinyl box set giving the detailed reasoning behind the choice of each track. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mjf at GRAHAM.COM Wed Sep 18 13:27:47 1996 From: mjf at GRAHAM.COM (Mike Fuller) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 10:27:47 -0700 Subject: HW: Caution :) In-Reply-To: <199609181240.IAA02659@grumpy.magg.net> Message-ID: >>>>> On Wed, 18 Sep 1996 08:40:56 -0400, "Andrew A. Apold" >>>>> said: Andrew> The project was done in secret without the knowledge of DS, who Andrew> promptly shelved the project and forced Griffin to destroy most Andrew> of their copies which were about to ship. However, due to a Andrew> mix-up, a few hundred were pressed onto CD's labeled "Jane's Andrew> greatest hits", and thus escaped this purge. Griffin kept a few Andrew> that were returned by angry Jane fans, but I don't think any are Andrew> left. I heard Steve had something to do with this, but for legal reasons, he has to officially deny any involvement with the unfortunate incident. -- Mike From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Sep 18 13:30:08 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:30:08 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <323FFE92.6309@eunet.no> from "Christian Mumford" at Sep 18, 96 03:52:18 pm Message-ID: > Carl E. Anderson wrote: > > > Jon Browne wrote: > > > > No, *I'm* Steve Swann! > > > > > > Who's Steve Swann? > > > Christian > > > > You are. > > Now I'm so confused I've broken all my clothes and wearing all my > furniture upside-down! > > Steve I am the Real Steve Swann. All other psuedo-Steve Swanns are requested to immediately send me their music collections :) Cheers, Carl ps--signing my post as "Carl" merely proves my status as Steve Swann ... From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Wed Sep 18 14:46:40 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:46:40 EST Subject: HW FAQ? Message-ID: Jill says: > Yuri Elik writes: > > > > BTW does anybody here have some info about when & where the tracks from > > Acid Daze were recorded? My records' covers have only song titles. > > > > the Codex will show you which were the original albums they were taken from > and this will more or less give you the dates. However for full info > there was a Brian Tawn booklet that came with the vinyl box set giving > the detailed reasoning behind the choice of each track. > > jill Is there a HW FAQ somewhere to be accessed? From the sounds of the many personnel changes etc. it would comprise several bytes... theo > =========================================================================== > J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk > ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Wed Sep 18 13:48:42 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:48:42 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Carl E. Anderson wrote: > I am the Real Steve Swann. I am currently casting for an upcoming blockbuster sword 'n' sandal epic entitled "Swanntacus." Sounds like you might come in handy for a scene near the end. All interested parties should contact me at their latest convenience... ;-) Cheers, Paul "No, I'm Steve Swann!" Mather. obCD: The Bevis Frond, _It Just Is_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Sep 18 13:59:25 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:59:25 +0100 Subject: HW: Abducted ! In-Reply-To: <323F61A5.4E3F@student.uq.edu.au> from "Max Wilcox" at Sep 18, 96 01:42:45 pm Message-ID: > That's a great idea! I think Mr E. Grant would be a wonderful adition > to HW at the moment. Imagine this kind of spoken word on stage... > "Withnail, do you want a silver machine?" > "No." ROTFL!!! :) Cheers, Carl ********************************************************************** Carl Edlund Anderson ASNAC Dept., Cambridge U. cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk ********************************************************************** From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Wed Sep 18 14:26:44 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:26:44 UT Subject: HW: FAQ? Message-ID: "Several bytes" is a most excellent understatement! Your best bet is to check out la page de notre propre copain australien, Sonique, at http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/Hawkwind/ which links to Jill & Mike's discography and codex (song/album cross-reference), Bernhard's gig list, Paul's album reviews, and loads of other stuff. Another very good source is http://www.skynet.co.uk/doremi/hawks/intro.html which is a set of album reviews by a longtime fan. A good published source is Pete Frame's (invaluable) _Rock Family Trees_, which takes the story up to 1978. Everybody interested in rock music ought to have this book, anyway! - Andy ObCD: Francoise Hardy - _Le Danger_ From uriah at HERMITAGE.RU Wed Sep 18 14:52:28 1996 From: uriah at HERMITAGE.RU (Yuri Elik) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 22:52:28 +0400 Subject: Acid Daze (was: HW tyro) Message-ID: J Strobridge wrote: > > Yuri Elik writes: > > > BTW does anybody here have some info about when & where the tracks from > > Acid Daze were recorded? My records' covers have only song titles. > > > > the Codex will show you which were the original albums they were taken from > and this will more or less give you the dates. However for full info > there was a Brian Tawn booklet that came with the vinyl box set giving > the detailed reasoning behind the choice of each track. Well, actually it's these details from the booklet I'm really interested in. Once I even saw the boxed set in the shop in Berlin, but that time I didn't know about booklet, and I already had the records separately, so I didn't bougt it :-( Yuri From kalex at EECS.UMICH.EDU Wed Sep 18 15:05:26 1996 From: kalex at EECS.UMICH.EDU (Ken Alexander) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 15:05:26 -0400 Subject: HW: Sonic Attack & CYM Message-ID: Sonic Attack and Choose Your Masques arrive! > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:35:15 -0700 > From: Robert Godwin > Organization: CG Publishing Inc > Subject: Sonic Attack & CYM > > Please could you inform your friends that Choose Your Masks and Sonic > Attack are now available on CD from > > CGP Inc, Box 62034, Burlington, Ontario, L7R 4K2, Canada > > Price is $12.98 (US) plus $3 shipping or $5 shipping international. > Checks or MO's only please. > > Thank You From mordru at MAGG.NET Wed Sep 18 15:06:16 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 15:06:16 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I Message-ID: > I am the Real Steve Swann. All other psuedo-Steve Swanns >are requested to immediately send me their music collections :) I admit I am not the real Steve Swan. I am a clone, I am. +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm From mordru at MAGG.NET Wed Sep 18 15:06:14 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 15:06:14 -0400 Subject: HW: Caution :) Message-ID: >>>>>> On Wed, 18 Sep 1996 08:40:56 -0400, "Andrew A. Apold" >>>>>> said: > >Andrew> The project was done in secret without the knowledge of DS, who >Andrew> promptly shelved the project and forced Griffin to destroy most >Andrew> of their copies which were about to ship. However, due to a >Andrew> mix-up, a few hundred were pressed onto CD's labeled "Jane's >Andrew> greatest hits", and thus escaped this purge. Griffin kept a few >Andrew> that were returned by angry Jane fans, but I don't think any are >Andrew> left. > >I heard Steve had something to do with this, but for legal reasons, he >has to officially deny any involvement with the unfortunate incident. Yeah, he's to blame for everything, Atlantic cited him as the reason the BOC deal with them fell through. The recent rumours about Alan leaving HW? Steve's fault. Heck, he even was responsible for buying the faulty capacitors that resulted in the failure of the R.O.D.S. robot. I'll bet Steve even had something to do with getting Danny Thompson to do drums for Hawkwind. +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Wed Sep 18 15:11:17 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:11:17 +0200 Subject: HW: CYM and Sonic Attack ReReleased!!! Message-ID: just got this letter from Rob Godwin of Griffin: who's going to be the first of us..? \\joe -------------------------------------------------- Please could you inform your friends that Choose Your Masks and Sonic Attack are now available on CD from CGP Inc, Box 62034, Burlington, Ontario, L7R 4K2, Canada Price is $12.98 (US) plus $3 shipping or $5 shipping international. Checks or MO's only please. Thank You From skarsol at EROLS.COM Wed Sep 18 11:17:25 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 15:17:25 +0000 Subject: HW tyro Message-ID: Jon Browne wrote: > > In message <365494366E2 at hawk.syr.edu>, "Ted Jackson jr. EL 84" > writes > >HW aficianadoes, > >The record shop next door has the following: > > > >Electric Tepee > >Out and Intake > >Live--the Business Trip [dang--I should get that just for the title!] > >Friends and Relations > >Acid Daze v.1-v.3 > > > >I'm thinking of taking the fateful step into HW madness. Having > >never heard the group [but liking what I've heard from you all] I'm > >wondering if any of these are worthwhile? > >theo > > Electic Tepee is "the dog's bollocks" as it were. English expression. > Does it translate? :) > -- > Jon Browne patty duke would have said its the cat's meow.... rj From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Sep 18 15:46:49 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 20:46:49 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: from "Paul Mather" at Sep 18, 96 01:48:42 pm Message-ID: > On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Carl E. Anderson wrote: > > I am the Real Steve Swann. > > I am currently casting for an upcoming blockbuster sword 'n' sandal epic > entitled "Swanntacus." Sounds like you might come in handy for a scene > near the end. All interested parties should contact me at their latest > convenience... ;-) That's OK--I'm allergic to crucifixion .... ;) > obCD: The Bevis Frond, _It Just Is_ And my order for _Son of Walter_ went out yesterday. Plus, after some harrassing, Ade Shaw managed to come up with a copy of Magic Muscle's _Gulp!_ with Nick, Ade, and Simon House on it! :) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of ASNAC Studies, Cambridge U. * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Sep 18 15:54:42 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 15:54:42 -0400 Subject: HW: Bath 2nd Nov gig - latest news? Message-ID: No confirmation yet....i am keeping a close eye on this one....rj and karyn take note... regards, Bill 'what! only 3 days left of summer' Stewart From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Sep 18 15:56:25 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 20:56:25 +0100 Subject: The conspiracy unmasked!!!! In-Reply-To: <199609181906.PAA20725@grumpy.magg.net> from "Andrew A. Apold" at Sep 18, 96 03:06:14 pm Message-ID: > >Andrew> The project was done in secret without the knowledge of DS, who > >Andrew> promptly shelved the project and forced Griffin to destroy most > >Andrew> of their copies which were about to ship. However, due to a > >Andrew> mix-up, a few hundred were pressed onto CD's labeled "Jane's > >Andrew> greatest hits", and thus escaped this purge. Griffin kept a few > >Andrew> that were returned by angry Jane fans, but I don't think any are > >Andrew> left. > > > >I heard Steve had something to do with this, but for legal reasons, he > >has to officially deny any involvement with the unfortunate incident. > > Yeah, he's to blame for everything, Atlantic cited him as the reason > the BOC deal with them fell through. The recent rumours about Alan > leaving HW? Steve's fault. Heck, he even was responsible for buying > the faulty capacitors that resulted in the failure of the R.O.D.S. robot. > I'll bet Steve even had something to do with getting Danny Thompson > to do drums for Hawkwind. Yes, and Steve was the one who finally convinced Brock to sack Lemmy, even though Brock didn't want to. Steve wanted Lemmy for his new project "Motorswann" (you should see the cover art they worked up for *that*!), but after they recorded the album the record company wouldn't release it because they thought it sounded too much like Enya (or possibly Live Chronicles). Later, Al Bouchard unethically stole the tapes and based _Imaginos_ on them (working title: Imagin-NOT!). In revenge on all concerned, Steve started the the BOC/Hawkwind email list, for which we all most righteously blame him. Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of ASNAC Studies, Cambridge U. * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From swann at MINDVOX.COM Wed Sep 18 16:39:36 1996 From: swann at MINDVOX.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:39:36 -0400 Subject: The conspiracy unmasked!!!! In-Reply-To: from "Carl E. Anderson" at Sep 18, 96 08:56:25 pm Message-ID: Carl E. Anderson writes: > > Yes, and Steve was the one who finally convinced Brock to > sack Lemmy, even though Brock didn't want to. Steve wanted Lemmy > for his new project "Motorswann" (you should see the cover art > they worked up for *that*!), They never finished the prints. You know what it's like trying to grip a pair of elephant tusks between your teeth for any length of time? Steve swann at panix.com (Self-parody: the final stage of Hawkwind/BOC fandom.) From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Sep 18 17:11:50 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 22:11:50 +0100 Subject: The conspiracy unmasked!!!! In-Reply-To: <19960918203936.22920.qmail@mindvox.com> from "Stephen Swann" at Sep 18, 96 04:39:36 pm Message-ID: > > Yes, and Steve was the one who finally convinced Brock to > > sack Lemmy, even though Brock didn't want to. Steve wanted Lemmy > > for his new project "Motorswann" (you should see the cover art > > they worked up for *that*!), > > They never finished the prints. You know what it's like trying to > grip a pair of elephant tusks between your teeth for any length of > time? No, but we're hoping you'll let us add the anecdote to our new Steve Swann FAQ. John Swartz is writing it in 13 volumes. And when are you gonna tour Australia? People in the Northeastern US get to see Steve all the time, so I don't want to hear any more whining about his choice of material ... > (Self-parody: the final stage of Hawkwind/BOC fandom.) We were born to go ... to turn electric dreams into parody! But really, it's just another step along the way in the neverending story of the psychedelic warlords with *way* to much time on their hands ... :) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of ASNAC Studies, Cambridge U. * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Wed Sep 18 17:37:12 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 17:37:12 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I Message-ID: I'm Steve Swann and my brother is too M From mjf at GRAHAM.COM Wed Sep 18 17:42:33 1996 From: mjf at GRAHAM.COM (Mike Fuller) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:42:33 -0700 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <199609181906.PAA20727@grumpy.magg.net> Message-ID: >>>>> On Wed, 18 Sep 1996 15:06:16 -0400, "Andrew A. Apold" >>>>> said: >> I am the Real Steve Swann. All other psuedo-Steve Swanns are >> requested to immediately send me their music collections :) Andrew> I admit I am not the real Steve Swan. Andrew> I am a clone, I am. The truth is, we are all clones of Steve Swann, genetically engineered to congregate on BOC-L. Unfortunately, after an Alien Abduction at a Hawkwind show many years ago, the original Steve Swann was replaced with an Android Replica. -- Mike From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Sep 18 17:52:35 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 22:52:35 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <199609182142.OAA03753@yoyodyne.graham.com> from "Mike Fuller" at Sep 18, 96 02:42:33 pm Message-ID: >>> I am the Real Steve Swann. All other psuedo-Steve Swanns are >>> requested to immediately send me their music collections :) > > Andrew> I admit I am not the real Steve Swan. > Andrew> I am a clone, I am. > > The truth is, we are all clones of Steve Swann, genetically engineered > to congregate on BOC-L. Unfortunately, after an Alien Abduction at a > Hawkwind show many years ago, the original Steve Swann was replaced with > an Android Replica. Oh! for the wings of any bird other than a battery Swann! Cheers, Carl Swann, (Steve) From jguizar at EPIX.NET Wed Sep 18 18:13:38 1996 From: jguizar at EPIX.NET (Jerry Guizar) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:13:38 -0400 Subject: Cope In-Reply-To: <8AcqZHAEktPyEwfr@comics.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: In <8AcqZHAEktPyEwfr at comics.demon.co.uk>, on 09/17/96 at 05:59 PM, Jon Browne said: >In message , Jerry > writes >>>Krautrocksampler: 0-9526719-1-3 >>>Head-On: 0-9526719-0-5 >>>Publisher for both: >>>Head Heritage >>>KAK Ltd >>>PO Box 3823 >>>London N8 8TQ >> >>Thanks for the info! >> >>Jerry >Keep it in the family, score them off Wylie *and* save on international >postage! There's a real small bookstore in town here and the owner orders whatever I ask for (and sends a nice Christmas gift) so I have her try first. If she can't get them, I'll talk to Wylie. Jerry ----------------------------------------------------------- jguizar at epix.net ----------------------------------------------------------- From delacour at UNM.EDU Wed Sep 18 18:31:50 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 16:31:50 -0600 Subject: BOC in OKLA? In-Reply-To: <960917152044_480715007@emout10.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Sep 1996 Rocker22 at aol.com wrote: > Bad news, Manuel. > > I called Cains Ballroom today and asked about the REO date. The band with > REO is Barton & Sweeney. I mentioned BOC touring with REO occasionally this > summer and he said they weren't on the bill. > > Sorry. > > Ric > R22; Thanks for the information. If anyone has any BOC tour dates, please post. God bless... Manuel & Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU Wed Sep 18 19:09:58 1996 From: aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU (Duane Hoyt) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:09:58 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I Message-ID: > >> I am the Real Steve Swann. All other psuedo-Steve Swanns >>are requested to immediately send me their music collections :) > >I admit I am not the real Steve Swan. > >I am a clone, I am. > So that explains it. There are actually many Steve Swann clones, and they all contribute to the list under many names so as not to confuse the rest of us. Duane What was that old game show in the U.S. where they would have three guys (or gals) in the shadows, and the first one would state their name, and they other two would also say they were that person, and the panel would question them awhile and then would have to guess who was the real person? I keep imagining this game, and there are three guys all saying " I am Steve Swann", " No, I am Steve Swann", and finally, " No, I am the real Steve Swann". From gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU Wed Sep 18 18:43:59 1996 From: gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU (Guido Vacano) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:43:59 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <199609182309.AA09186@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu> from "Duane Hoyt" at Sep 18, 96 07:09:58 pm Message-ID: Hello-- > > > >> I am the Real Steve Swann. All other psuedo-Steve Swanns > >>are requested to immediately send me their music collections :) > > > >I admit I am not the real Steve Swan. > > > >I am a clone, I am. > > > So that explains it. There are actually many Steve Swann clones, and they > all contribute to the list under many names so as not to confuse the rest of > us. This is incorrect. Steve Swann started BOC-L in 1990 as an excercise in high tech narcissism/monist mysticism. BOC-L is a means by which Steve talks to himself about those things he likes to talk about. We are all Steve, but are suffering under the delusion that we are not Steve. All distinction, including my sense of myself as a molecular biology postdoc working in a molecular immunology lab who really should be working on a grant application right now, is illusion. I am Steve, as are we all. Once we fully embrace our Steve nature, the distinctions will disappear, BOC-L will disappear, and Steve will be left sitting in front of his computer wondering why he was talking to himself for the past six years. Guido (I mean Steve, of course) :-) P.S. The game was called "What's My Line". Jeez I feel old! :-P -- If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse From mannyrp at SPRYNET.COM Wed Sep 18 08:38:37 1996 From: mannyrp at SPRYNET.COM (Richard Manny) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 05:38:37 -0700 Subject: BOC: The Reaper Midi Message-ID: John A Swartz wrote: > Actually, I'm not proud (but not ashamed) to say that I once received a > "Dear John letter" (in the traditional use of the term). You too, eh? Makes me feel better than the lone beer bottle in front of the Sunday Afternoon sharpshooter. The show inquired about was To Tell the Truth. Anybody know why a different version of We Gotta Get Out of this Place is on the CD. (different from the album) I prefer the album version and was very happy when Workshop contained that version. Brad http://www.moosenet.com/poison.html From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Sep 17 15:31:32 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 20:31:32 +0100 Subject: no more Mountain Grill but.... In-Reply-To: <9609171827.aa27684@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> Message-ID: In message <9609171827.aa27684 at uk.ac.ed.tattoo>, J Strobridge writes >So maybe we could get Hawkwind to do a John Michel Jarre type of >act under the Ladbroke Grove underpass and put on a lightshow >performance that would stop the London traffic on the M-whatever it is >totally! > >jill > Oh,yes,oh,yes! An under the London Westway show in 96/97 25 years after! A free show! WITH the full light show! I've been to parties fairly recently there, like the Mutiod Waste Co. Parties, OK not strictly legal shows but there you go.. Stop the city, with lasers! BOC-L Project '97, anyone? -- Jon Browne From mordru at MAGG.NET Thu Sep 19 00:24:04 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 00:24:04 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I Message-ID: >Andrew> I admit I am not the real Steve Swan. > >Andrew> I am a clone, I am. > >The truth is, we are all clones of Steve Swann, genetically engineered >to congregate on BOC-L. Unfortunately, after an Alien Abduction at a >Hawkwind show many years ago, the original Steve Swann was replaced with >an Android Replica. > Anyone else thing this whole saga, slightly mystified with double-talk and obscure references, would make damn fine BOC or Hawkwind song lyrics? =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From mordru at MAGG.NET Thu Sep 19 00:24:09 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 00:24:09 -0400 Subject: SWAN: new subject headers Message-ID: The BOC-L list is now the BOC/Hawkwind/Steve Swan mailing list. All messages about steve swan should have the standard SWAN heading so that those deluded fools who do not believe they are Steve Swan may remain blissful in their ignorance. All messages from Steve Swan, regardless of topic, regardless of the alias, should also include this header. =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From mordru at MAGG.NET Thu Sep 19 00:24:07 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 00:24:07 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I Message-ID: >This is incorrect. Steve Swann started BOC-L in 1990 as an excercise in >high tech narcissism/monist mysticism. BOC-L is a means by which Steve >talks to himself about those things he likes to talk about. We are all >Steve, but are suffering under the delusion that we are not Steve. All >distinction, including my sense of myself as a molecular biology postdoc >working in a molecular immunology lab who really should be working on a >grant application right now, is illusion. I am Steve, as are we all. Once >we fully embrace our Steve nature, the distinctions will disappear, BOC-L >will disappear, and Steve will be left sitting in front of his computer >wondering why he was talking to himself for the past six years. The illusion that we are all not steve is known as "Swansara". OB: Lord of Light - Mahaswanatman. "Great Souled Swan". =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From skarsol at EROLS.COM Wed Sep 18 20:46:23 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 00:46:23 +0000 Subject: OFF: gong tour,u.s.,oct. Message-ID: can anyone tell me who will make up the band? am particularly interested in oct 18 philly show. rj From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Thu Sep 19 02:32:50 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 01:32:50 -0500 Subject: no more Mountain Grill Message-ID: On 17-SEP-1996 13:51:11.7 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >> So maybe we could get Hawkwind to do a John Michel Jarre type of >> act under the Ladbroke Grove underpass and put on a lightshow >> performance that would stop the London traffic on the M-whatever it is >> totally! >That would be highly worthwhile. I think they should do it :) >At the very least they should get Brock down there busking with an >acoustic and see how many people notice :) >Cheers, >Carl Okay, it's about time I asked this. (Maybe it's in the dictionary?) What the hell does "busking" mean? Everytime I read a Hawkhistory, it says that, prior to forming HW, Brock was a busker. From Carl's post, I'm thinking maybe someone playing on the streets for change... An American, Chuck Funny I should be listening to "Hurry On Sundown" at this very moment... `[1;32;46mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Thu Sep 19 02:32:59 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 01:32:59 -0500 Subject: HW: Abducted ! Message-ID: On 17-SEP-1996 13:54:59.2 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >> I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but as I arrived here after >the > release of Alien 4 I'll bring it up again. >> The sleeve notes for "abducted" give the credits to "Brock/Tree" but >to me > those vocals sound a lot like Calvert. Is Ron Tree really >responsible for > those vocals ? >Indeed he is. Amazing is it not. He manages a fair Calvert >impression at those times when he's not screwing something up horribly, >(though in truth, we must lay a certain amount of blame on the whole >band for travesties like "Beam Me Up" ;) >Cheers, >Carl Ha, switch the "M-E" in the title and you have a travesty by BOC...but, the real reason I replied to this note was to say that I like "Anducted" and think that Tree is at his best on the spoken parts, rather than singing... Chuck `[1;35;41mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Thu Sep 19 02:33:11 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 01:33:11 -0500 Subject: me, myself and I Message-ID: On 18-SEP-1996 02:34:44.8 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >>>>>> On Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:35:10 EST, "Ted Jackson jr. EL 84" >>>>>> said: >>> He also recommends Imaginos for BOC newbies, even though he knows >that >> (apologies to Al) I gave it so low a rating in the BOC album >poll that >> it pulled it down a notch. >> What, you trashed Imaginos? Heresy! Explain yourself! >I'm not sure I can describe why I don't like it. I just never feel the >desire to listen to it. I've listened to it about 5 times in 7 years, >and the last 3 were only because so many people said it was good that I >thought I must be missing something. The only explanation I can think >of is that the versions of Astronomy and Subhuman are so lacking in >over-the-top guitar and keyboards compared to the originals that they >probably turn me off to the rest of the album. >"A star" >twang twang >Gag. But, for sake of symmetry, I do like "I Am the One You Warned Me >Of", which Steve thinks is the weakest song on the album. >-- >Mike Well...well, well, well, well. There is another? I don't like Imaginos either, and for the EXACT same reasons stated above by Mike. I see that there is a wealth of lyrical intrigue, but the music and/or singing must always hook me. I don't see how this is comparable to the Holy Trinity and I have given it a fair amount of listens (the latter few also inspired by constant raving here)...no dice. Not that I DISlike it. After all, it IS BOC, so it's good, I just don't have the desire to play it. I actually prefer Club Ninja (though not by much). I can take the flames, but what it comes down to is that it doesn't hit me on a visceral level... Chuck `[1;36;45mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Thu Sep 19 01:44:55 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:44:55 +1000 Subject: OFF: listowner help In-Reply-To: <324097DF.528C@erols.com> Message-ID: Hey dudes and dudettes, Sorry to hassel all, but could a listowner please write to me el'private-o? I have a couple of logistical queries. Thanks all, Troy From mbraun at RAYGUN.URBANA.MCD.MOT.COM Thu Sep 19 01:57:50 1996 From: mbraun at RAYGUN.URBANA.MCD.MOT.COM (Matthew Braun) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 00:57:50 CDT Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 19 Sep 96 01:33:01 EDT." <199609190533.BAA00186@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: "Andrew A. Apold" writes: >Anyone else thing this whole saga, slightly mystified with double-talk and >obscure references, would make damn fine BOC or Hawkwind song lyrics? Naw. My bet is that it would be the end the group that writes it. But then, that's what usually happens with Swann songs... m@ +-mbraun at urbana.mcd.mot.com-+--Experiments that failed too many times -----BOC+ | Matt Braun -- Motorola, | Transformations that were too hard to find | | Urbana, IL Design Centre | Poison's in my bloodstream, poison's in my pride| +---Special Projects Team---+--- I'm after rebellion, I'll settle for lies----+ From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Thu Sep 19 01:57:47 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:57:47 +1000 Subject: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <01I9N8Q9QN0U8Y565Q@delphi.com> Message-ID: Dudes, For my two cents worth on the whole "is Imaginos good" buzz, I would have to say that is ia great when one wants to hear a "metal" type lp. It is the only BOC CD that actually has some appeal to the modern metalhead type, of whom the majority of my comrades are. All BOC offerings have different appeal, and have different moods. That's what set them apart from the other heavy rock bands. That is why they are more interesting than Venom or whoever, and no two albums are the same. I like to pick and choose through my BOC, as one would pick and choose through a menu in one's fave restaurant. Feel like a little raunch- OYFOOYK or Imaginos "" "" "" class- AoF, SEE "" "" "" Commercial rock- RBN, CN, FOUO ETC., (Make up your own categories). L8r, Troy ObCD- Imaginos. (Feeling heavy today) From zaius at TELEPORT.COM Thu Sep 19 02:20:48 1996 From: zaius at TELEPORT.COM (Steve) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 23:20:48 -0700 Subject: unsubscribing-how to? Message-ID: How does one do it? And how do you get back on? I can't handle the volume right now? Thanks for pointers SP From makila at CSC.FI Thu Sep 19 03:00:45 1996 From: makila at CSC.FI (Niko Makila) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 10:00:45 +0300 Subject: BOC: Imaginos (was: Re: me, myself and I) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 19 Sep 1996 01:33:11 CDT." <01I9N8Q9QN0U8Y565Q@delphi.com> Message-ID: I have to second Mike and Chuck for not being a particular Imaginos fan. I listen to the album every now and then just to check that I still think that way. It's not bad or anything; just nothing special. Actually this leads to the ``Big Band Theory.'' ``Brontosauruses are very thin on one end and...'' Sorry, wrong theory. ``BOC was at its best on the first five or six or so albums. On Imaginos specifically there are a dozen extra musicians who make the music sound big (there is nothing bad about guest musicians in general though). The warm and fuzzy raw evilness is gone.'' This theory also explains why I like the Brain Surgeons so much. //niko (a/k/a Steve) From david at MASTMOOR.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Sep 19 03:32:35 1996 From: david at MASTMOOR.DEMON.CO.UK (David Jones) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 08:32:35 +0100 Subject: HW: Love in Space Video Message-ID: I have been told that last Saturdays Daily Telegraph had a short review of the video from the love in space tour so it should be out soon - anybody seen it yet ? From dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM Thu Sep 19 03:35:31 1996 From: dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM (Jeremy Dacombe) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 03:35:31 EDT Subject: HW: Born To Go Message-ID: --- Received from LIMEMO1.DACOMBJ 4709 19/09/96 08.23 -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBMMAIL INTERNET GATEWAY INTERNET -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBMMAIL INTERNET GATEWAY INTERNET Dear All, Just a short note to let you know that the excellent "BORN TO GO" book will be out of print by the end of 1996. Full details :- *************************************************************** BORN TO GO Hawkwind in the Seventies A detailed history of the original Hawkwind from 1969 to 1979. 100 page A5 size book available on Mail order only from: Gavin Wilson 3 Quarry St UK L5.50 UK Pound Larkhall Rest Of World L6.75 UK Pound Lanarkshire Scotland (includes P & P) ML9 2NJ ***************************************************************** I really can't recommend this book highly enough. Makes an excellent companion to Kris Tait's "Do Not Panic" without actually duplicating it. Any comments from those of you who already have it? Please let Gavin know where you heard about it as I know he appreciates this info. Cheers for now, Jez. From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Sep 19 04:02:39 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:02:39 +0100 Subject: no more Mountain Grill In-Reply-To: <01I9N8PVH1FM8Y565Q@delphi.com> from "HERBERT119@DELPHI.COM" at Sep 19, 96 01:32:50 am Message-ID: > Okay, it's about time I asked this. (Maybe it's in the dictionary?) What the > hell does "busking" mean? Everytime I read a Hawkhistory, it says that, > prior to forming HW, Brock was a busker. From Carl's post, I'm thinking > maybe someone playing on the streets for change... That's it. I'd almost swear I heard the word used when I was in Cambridge, MA (as opposed to UK) but I might be wrong, or it might be a contamination from British English ... Cheers, Carl ********************************************************************** Carl Edlund Anderson ASNAC Dept., Cambridge U. cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk ********************************************************************** From Chris.O'Neill at CTS.ZENECA.COM Thu Sep 19 04:05:20 1996 From: Chris.O'Neill at CTS.ZENECA.COM (O'Neill Chris C) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:05:20 +0100 Subject: HW: Release Date for Love in Space Message-ID: >O'Neill Chris C writes: > >> When did Love in Space get its UK release ? I saw (and bought) it last >> saturday - only just seems to have surfaced in our local shops. >> > >A few months ago now. There's a video going to be available soon too! > >jill > A few months ? Jeez, ok I haven't been looking very hard because I was lacking the ready's to buy it. Now there's a video ? aaaghh !!! Is it the same set as on the CD ? >Chris O'Neill From m.r.varley at UCLAN.AC.UK Thu Sep 19 10:01:16 1996 From: m.r.varley at UCLAN.AC.UK (M.R.VARLEY) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 10:01:16 GMT+0 Subject: US BOC Tour Dates Message-ID: For US BOC fans, there are a few dates for Sept and Oct now posted in http://www.clark.net/pub/mileskb/boc/dates.html Hope you enjoy them (green with envy whilst waiting for UK date(s)!!) From npuchot at PASTEUR.FR Thu Sep 19 08:39:14 1996 From: npuchot at PASTEUR.FR (nico) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:39:14 +0000 Subject: Nik Turner's sphinx : Xitintoday Message-ID: I'm searching for a nick turner "solo" album: Nik Turner's sphinx : Xitintoday, 1978 (charisma) Is there someone who can tell me where I can find it thanks!!! nico (npuchot at pasteur.fr) From lansford at VNET.NET Thu Sep 19 06:56:50 1996 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Jean Lansford) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 10:56:50 GMT Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <323FFE92.6309@eunet.no> Message-ID: On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Christian Mumford wrote: >Now I'm so confused I've broken all my clothes and wearing all my >furniture upside-down! Ah, another one foolish enough to attempt to make sense of the words of Ranger One. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Jean Lansford oyster.girl at genie.geis.com lansford at vnet.net Member, Fran CleanUp Crew From p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU Thu Sep 19 07:56:37 1996 From: p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU (Peter Sondergeld) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 21:56:37 +1000 Subject: no more Mountain Grill Message-ID: Just for the record, what's busking called in the US? I'd never thought it might be called something else. Pete. (who once took 20 cents for a whole evening busking - from a small boy whose parents had given him the money - and felt like giving it back) At 09:02 AM 9/19/96 +0100, you wrote: >> Okay, it's about time I asked this. (Maybe it's in the dictionary?) What the >> hell does "busking" mean? Everytime I read a Hawkhistory, it says that, >> prior to forming HW, Brock was a busker. From Carl's post, I'm thinking >> maybe someone playing on the streets for change... > > That's it. I'd almost swear I heard the word used when I was in >Cambridge, MA (as opposed to UK) but I might be wrong, or it might be >a contamination from British English ... > >Cheers, >Carl > >********************************************************************** >Carl Edlund Anderson ASNAC Dept., Cambridge U. cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk >********************************************************************** > > ************************** Peter Sondergeld p.sondergeld at qut.edu.au "And sometimes I say things I shouldn't, Like..." - Warren Zevon From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 19 13:25:48 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:25:48 BST Subject: OFF: SWANN In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Wed, 18 Sep 1996 13:48:42 -0400 Message-ID: Paul Mather writes: > > I am currently casting for an upcoming blockbuster sword 'n' sandal epic and I read this as "sword 'n' scandal" at first glance.... 8-) jill (Swannette) ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 19 13:27:51 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:27:51 BST Subject: HW: CYM and Sonic Attack ReReleased!!! In-Reply-To: Johan Edlundh's message of Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:11:17 +0200 Message-ID: Would some nice person in the USofA be able to locate a copy of these for me? It'll save me coming across! thanx jill Johan Edlundh writes: > just got this letter from Rob Godwin of Griffin: > who's going to be the first of us..? > > \\joe > > -------------------------------------------------- > Please could you inform your friends that Choose Your Masks and Sonic > Attack are now available on CD from > > CGP Inc, Box 62034, Burlington, Ontario, L7R 4K2, Canada > > Price is $12.98 (US) plus $3 shipping or $5 shipping international. > Checks or MO's only please. > > Thank You ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mordru at MAGG.NET Thu Sep 19 08:54:26 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 08:54:26 -0400 Subject: no more Mountain Grill Message-ID: >Just for the record, what's busking called in the US? I'd never thought it >might be called something else. Hmm? I've heard the term Busking used around Mardi Gras a lot, referring to various musicians going there. Never really picked up an any equivalent, or encountered it anywhere else until reading a Hawkwind background. Heck for awhile I thought it was some kind of cajun term.... +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm From mordru at MAGG.NET Thu Sep 19 09:12:01 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:12:01 -0400 Subject: BOTH: programs Message-ID: Managed to pick up programs for Chronicle of the Black Sword and Club Ninja tours. Latter apparently was available from Columbia House for awhile. It has a history of the band text that differs from the Arthur Levy version seen in various compilations (Career, Workshop, etc...) Anyways, the pix from this clearly indicate Buck had shaved his 'stache by this time, so hopefully John can add this to the mounting volume of evidence in the mustache section of the FAQ.... === CotBS is similar but much larger than the insert in the Griffin release of the studio CD (which was taken from this...), and in color. Rather nifty. I saw a review that didn't like the artwork in this, don't know what they were thinking. I like this a lot. +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Thu Sep 19 09:12:33 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:12:33 -0400 Subject: Other: Will the real Steve Swann please stand up Message-ID: >Anybody know why a different version of We Gotta Get Out of this Place is on the CD. (different from the album) I prefer the album version and was very happy when Workshop contained that version. Basically a mix-up. The tapes got mislabelled or put in the wrong box and a different show (Edinburg, I think) was accidentally used rather than the one on the album (Newcastle). These and other fun facts await your reading pleasure in the BOC FAQ (ftp://ftp.spc.edu/boc_l/boc_faq-2_1.txt , or check other BOC web sites for a link to it). John From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Thu Sep 19 10:55:45 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:55:45 EST Subject: no more Mountain Grill Message-ID: > On 17-SEP-1996 13:51:11.7 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 > >> So maybe we could get Hawkwind to do a John Michel Jarre type of > >> act under the Ladbroke Grove underpass and put on a lightshow > >> performance that would stop the London traffic on the M-whatever it is > >> totally! > >That would be highly worthwhile. I think they should do it :) > >At the very least they should get Brock down there busking with an > >acoustic and see how many people notice :) > >Cheers, > >Carl > > Okay, it's about time I asked this. (Maybe it's in the dictionary?) What the > hell does "busking" mean? Everytime I read a Hawkhistory, it says that, > prior to forming HW, Brock was a busker. From Carl's post, I'm thinking > maybe someone playing on the streets for change... > > An American, > > Chuck > > Chuck, I think it might actually be in the dictionary, but your inference is correct. A busker is a solo street musician who usually has a hat in front of him to catch thrown coins. A bud of mine was a busker in Montreal and actually survived at it! theo From stephen at SPATIAL.UNISYS.COM Thu Sep 19 10:29:37 1996 From: stephen at SPATIAL.UNISYS.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 10:29:37 -0400 Subject: HW: CYM and Sonic Attack ReReleased!!! Message-ID: >> Please could you inform your friends that Choose Your Masks and Sonic >> Attack are now available on CD from >> >> CGP Inc, Box 62034, Burlington, Ontario, L7R 4K2, Canada >> >> Price is $12.98 (US) plus $3 shipping or $5 shipping international. >> Checks or MO's only please. Checked Canadian price with Robert (It is a Canadian company after all !) > Yeah the Canadian price is $15.98 plus $4 for shipping........ > Cheers, Steve L. From stephen at SPATIAL.UNISYS.COM Thu Sep 19 10:30:24 1996 From: stephen at SPATIAL.UNISYS.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 10:30:24 -0400 Subject: HW: CYM and Sonic Attack ReReleased!!! Message-ID: Would some nice person in the USofA be able to locate a copy of these for me? It'll save me coming across! thanx jill >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm willing if you don't get any takers, Jill. Cheers, Steve Lindsey From gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU Thu Sep 19 09:37:10 1996 From: gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU (Guido Vacano) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 09:37:10 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <199609190424.AAA21861@grumpy.magg.net> from "Andrew A. Apold" at Sep 19, 96 00:24:07 am Message-ID: Roger says-- > The illusion that we are all not steve is known as "Swansara". And if we get, past it, we'll achieve "Stivana". Guido -- If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse From khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU Thu Sep 19 11:19:36 1996 From: khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Keith A Henderson) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:19:36 -0400 Subject: OFF: gong tour,u.s.,oct. In-Reply-To: <324097DF.528C@erols.com> from "SKARSOL" at Sep 19, 96 00:46:23 am Message-ID: rj wants to know... > can anyone tell me who will make up the band? > am particularly interested in oct 18 philly show. I'm nearly positive that the last update listed the same group as came 'round last time....ie. Allen/Smyth/Howlett/Pyle/Sharpstrings. Here's the latest tour list... GONG SHAPESHIFTER TOUR , NORTH AMERICA all dates in October 11,12,&13- Club D'Auteuil, Quebec City 14-Travel 15- Mama Kin's, Boston 16- Tramps, New York 17- Club Bene, Sayreville, New Jersey 18- Middle East, Philadelphia 19- Baltimore Museum Of Art, Baltimore 20- Birchmere, Arlington, Va. 21- Travel 22- Cubby Bear, Chicago 23- Seventh House- (near Detroit) 24- tba (there is a very shakey rumor of a gig in Columbus, otherwise open for serious suggestions-what happens in Ann Arbor????) 25- Phantasy Club, Cleveland 26- Cabaret, Montreal 27- (if demand necessitates) Cabaret, Montrel Wow....Columbus perhaps??? I'll have to check on this. People may actually be coming to *my* city for a change, rather than myself driving halfway across the country for shows. The last update also said that they had hoped to play those 'other' places down south and southwest, but that they just didn't get the response they were hoping for. Guess there still is a contingency plan to try to do those places on a third mini-tour next spring (April '97 or something). Keith H. (FAA) From stayer at PI.NET Thu Sep 19 10:32:20 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 07:32:20 PDT Subject: BOC: Imaginos Message-ID: Hi there, I got an e-mail from someone whose friend didn't have I-access (poor sucker). His friend didn't have and was still looking for Imaginos (poor sucker). He lived in Daytona, and he has checked every shop. They checked the Sony home page, but they didn't have it listen as being available. Can anyone help this rather unfortunate soul? I mean, missing Imaginos... whew! I couldn't live knowing that! Thanks, Jerry From tori at PANIX.COM Thu Sep 19 12:04:25 1996 From: tori at PANIX.COM (Lurking Girl) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:04:25 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <9609182243.AA17248@beaver.mbb.wesleyan.edu> Message-ID: Guido wrote: > Once > we fully embrace our Steve nature, the distinctions will disappear, BOC-L > will disappear, and Steve will be left sitting in front of his computer > wondering why he was talking to himself for the past six years. Oh dear. Does this mean I've been committing the sin of Onan for the last 2.5 years? Tori, or possibly Stephanie From egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US Thu Sep 19 12:01:42 1996 From: egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US (Ed Gallagher) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 11:01:42 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <199609190424.AAA21858@grumpy.magg.net> from "Andrew A. Apold" at Sep 19, 96 00:24:04 am Message-ID: > > >Andrew> I admit I am not the real Steve Swan. > > > >Andrew> I am a clone, I am. > > > >The truth is, we are all clones of Steve Swann, genetically engineered > >to congregate on BOC-L. Unfortunately, after an Alien Abduction at a > >Hawkwind show many years ago, the original Steve Swann was replaced with > >an Android Replica. > > > > Anyone else thing this whole saga, slightly mystified with double-talk and > obscure references, would make damn fine BOC or Hawkwind song lyrics? > =================================== > Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random > OH NO!!!!! NOT a SWAN SONG! (sorry) ;-) -- "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein Edward Gallagher Internet egallagh at harper.cc.il.us Advanced Technology Specialist William Rainey Harper College Information Systems/User Service Pager (708) 962-4886 1200 W. Algonquin Rd. FAX (847) 925-6036 Palatine, IL 60067 Old Fashion Way (847) 925-6134 From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Thu Sep 19 14:13:26 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:13:26 EST Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I Message-ID: > Oh dear. Does this mean I've been committing the sin of Onan for the last > 2.5 years? > > Tori, or possibly Stephanie If you want something done right... theo From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Thu Sep 19 13:33:41 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:33:41 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Lurking Girl wrote: > Guido wrote: > > > Once > > we fully embrace our Steve nature, the distinctions will disappear, BOC-L > > will disappear, and Steve will be left sitting in front of his computer > > wondering why he was talking to himself for the past six years. > > Oh dear. Does this mean I've been committing the sin of Onan for the last > 2.5 years? I thought about posting a reply to this, but my British modesty and sensibility forced me to draw a veil discreetly across it. But, may I request that the next time you are committing the sin of Onan, you kindly whisper in "your" ear, "send Monster Magnet, _Tab_ CD..." >;-) Cheers, Paul "gentle reminders are always the best" Mather. obCD: Sundial, _Acid Yantra_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Sep 19 13:40:13 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 18:40:13 +0100 Subject: Other: Will the real Steve Swann please stand up In-Reply-To: <199609191312.JAA08191@mbunix.mitre.org> from "John A Swartz" at Sep 19, 96 09:12:33 am Message-ID: > >Anybody know why a different version of We Gotta Get Out of this Place is on > the CD. (different from the album) I prefer the album version and was very > happy when Workshop contained that version. > > Basically a mix-up. The tapes got mislabelled or put in the wrong box and > a different show (Edinburg, I think) was accidentally used rather than the > one on the album (Newcastle). These and other fun facts await your reading > pleasure in the BOC FAQ (ftp://ftp.spc.edu/boc_l/boc_faq-2_1.txt , or check > other BOC web sites for a link to it). Without choking my disc-space with the faq ;) could someone briefly explain what this is all about? Are we saying that the WGGOotP on the CD is different from the LP, but the LP version appeared on the Workshop 2CD collection? I guess I'm young enough to happily apply the word "album" or "record" to both CDs and LPs equally, so I want to make sure I understand this aright ... Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of ASNAC Studies, Cambridge U. * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From jguizar at EPIX.NET Thu Sep 19 13:55:04 1996 From: jguizar at EPIX.NET (Jerry Guizar) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:55:04 -0400 Subject: unsubscribing-how to? In-Reply-To: <199609190614.XAA00810@desiree.teleport.com> Message-ID: In <199609190614.XAA00810 at desiree.teleport.com>, on 09/18/96 at 11:20 PM, Steve said: >How does one do it? And how do you get back on? I can't handle the >volume right now? >Thanks for pointers "INFO REFCARD" sent to LISTSERV at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU will give you the options you can use. It looks like "SIGNOFF BOC-L" will unsub you. You can also "SET BOC-L NOMAIL" to turn mail off, "SET BOC-L DIGESTS" to get it in Digest form, and there's a few options for getting mail only pertaining to BOC or HW as well as all. Jerry BTW.....all those commands should be typed in the message itself (as opposed to Subject). ----------------------------------------------------------- jguizar at epix.net ----------------------------------------------------------- From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Thu Sep 19 00:57:19 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:57:19 +1100 Subject: no more Mountain Grill Message-ID: > Chuck, > I think it might actually be in the dictionary, but your inference is > correct. A busker is a solo street musician who usually has a hat in > front of him to catch thrown coins. A bud of mine was a busker in > Montreal and actually survived at it! > theo Actualy, it suprises me that it's not a common term, it seems to be over here in Australia. While I'm here, and on this topic, I must say that busking was a profitable experience for me the sole time that I tried it. A friend an I had just stumbled out of a Pub, on a friday night, (in the main part of town), into "the mall" (as it's known), and we suddenly got the urge to sing. My friend, threw his hat onto the ground and we began to drunkenly sing some old favorates (the particular somgs, for some reason, I can't remember). In the total of about four minutes we were there, we made about $3 (aust). I think there's something in that for all of us - if you're drunk enough, you can always find money for more alcohol.... -Max Wilcox (sorry this has gone a little off the topic...) From mordru at MAGG.NET Thu Sep 19 13:58:57 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:58:57 -0400 Subject: BOC: Imaginos Message-ID: >Hi there, > >I got an e-mail from someone whose friend didn't have I-access (poor >sucker). His friend didn't have and was still looking for Imaginos (poor >sucker). He lived in Daytona, and he has checked every shop. They checked >the Sony home page, but they didn't have it listen as being available. > >Can anyone help this rather unfortunate soul? I mean, missing Imaginos... >whew! I couldn't live knowing that! Actually, I can't find it on CD (though I have it on tape), either. Must not be around in Florida... +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Thu Sep 19 14:29:34 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Le Monsieur) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:29:34 -0500 Subject: HW: CYM and Sonic Attack ReReleased!!! In-Reply-To: <9609191327.aa13545@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> Message-ID: On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, J Strobridge wrote: > Would some nice person in the USofA be able to locate a copy of these > for me? It'll save me coming across! I thought EBS was supposed to be releasing these simultaneously. Wahappen? Damon Capehart | "As their numbers dwindled from 70 to 8, the aka Le Monsieur | dwarves began to suspect Hungry..." dcapehar at utdallas.edu | From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Thu Sep 19 15:34:45 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:34:45 -0400 Subject: RealAudio Message-ID: Has anyone checked this out? It's incredible. I'm listening to virgin radio from London over the internet. So when can someone set up a Realaudio server for BOC and HW? Martyn From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Thu Sep 19 16:10:53 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:10:53 -0400 Subject: RealAudio In-Reply-To: <9609191934.AA15194@borg.med.ecu.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Martyn White wrote: > Has anyone checked this out? It's incredible. I'm > listening to virgin radio from London over the internet. So far as I am aware, RealAudio is still basically only up to AM radio quality. If you class that as "incredible," I have an "incredible" sounding copy of the One Way _Hawkwind_ CD I'd be willing to sell you. :-) There are several "audio streaming" technologies available on the WWW (e.g. CoolTalk, Internet Wave, etc.), with RealAudio being probably the most widespread in use. The insidious thing about RealAudio is that it uses UDP for data transfer. This makes it far less amenable to filtering, controlling, etc. Basically, this means it can suck the life force out of your available network bandwidth, leaving all your regular TCP consumers crying into their beer. But so long as at least one person on a subnet can listen to the cricket scores in peace, that's the important thing. ;-) (Don't laugh, but Virginia Tech broadcast the live commentary to their most recent American Football game over the Internet using RealAudio during the game.) > So when can someone set up a Realaudio server for > BOC and HW? Again, last I heard, the RealAudio server was not available for free (or, if it was, it was a stripped-down 1 channel version; the more "channels" you buy [the # of users who can listen simultaneously], the more expensive it is). This is unlike several other audio streaming variants. Also, I believe the compression software you need to make RealAudio sound files is not freely available. This is all last time I looked, quite some time ago. The situation may now have changed. As for a BOC/HW RealAudio server, there would be the little matter of gross copyright violation... :-) Cheers, Paul. obCD: Kyuss, _Blues For The Red Sun_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From tori at PANIX.COM Thu Sep 19 16:46:46 1996 From: tori at PANIX.COM (Lurking Girl) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:46:46 -0400 Subject: BOC: Imaginos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I got an e-mail from someone whose friend didn't have I-access (poor > sucker). His friend didn't have and was still looking for Imaginos (poor > sucker). He lived in Daytona, and he has checked every shop. They checked > the Sony home page, but they didn't have it listen as being available. You can usually find about four people on rec.music.marketplace.* selling it for under $10, the fools. You or the someone should be able to pick up a copy for him there. Victoria C. Fike * tori at panix.com * http://www.panix.com/~tori LNH: Lurking Girl * SCA: Vika (Ostgardr) * WB: miri * work: vf at panix.com "Commit a little mortal sin, it's good for the soul." -J. Buffett Email spam will be returned with a gratis copy of vmunix From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Thu Sep 19 16:53:29 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:53:29 -0400 Subject: Other: Will the real Steve Swann please stand up Message-ID: Carl asks: > Are we saying that the WGGOotP on the CD is different from the LP, but the LP version appeared on the Workshop 2CD collection? Yes, that is correct. John From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Thu Sep 19 17:55:28 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:55:28 -0500 Subject: HW: Abducted ! Message-ID: On 19-SEP-1996 01:35:11.1 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >On 17-SEP-1996 13:54:59.2 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >>> I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but as I arrived here after >>the > release of Alien 4 I'll bring it up again. >>> The sleeve notes for "abducted" give the credits to "Brock/Tree" but >>to me > those vocals sound a lot like Calvert. Is Ron Tree really >>responsible for > those vocals ? >>Indeed he is. Amazing is it not. He manages a fair Calvert >>impression at those times when he's not screwing something up horribly, >>(though in truth, we must lay a certain amount of blame on the whole >>band for travesties like "Beam Me Up" ;) >>Cheers, >>Carl >Ha, switch the "M-E" in the title and you have a travesty by >BOC...but, the real reason I replied to this note was to say that I >like "Anducted" and think that Tree is at his best on the spoken >parts, rather than singing... >Chuck Chuck, you ass..."Beam 'Em Up" is not a BOC song...you must have been drinking last night... `[1;37;47mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Thu Sep 19 17:55:42 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:55:42 -0500 Subject: no more Mountain Grill Message-ID: On 19-SEP-1996 10:01:01.2 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >> On 17-SEP-1996 13:51:11.7 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >> >> So maybe we could get Hawkwind to do a John Michel Jarre type of >> >> act under the Ladbroke Grove underpass and put on a lightshow >> >> performance that would stop the London traffic on the >M-whatever it i s >> >> totally! >> >That would be highly worthwhile. I think they should do it :) >> >At the very least they should get Brock down there busking with an >> >acoustic and see how many people notice :) >> >Cheers, >> >Carl >> >> Okay, it's about time I asked this. (Maybe it's in the dictionary?) >What th e >> hell does "busking" mean? Everytime I read a Hawkhistory, it says >that, > prior to forming HW, Brock was a busker. From Carl's post, I'm >thinking > maybe someone playing on the streets for change... >> >> An American, >> >> Chuck >> >> >Chuck, >I think it might actually be in the dictionary, but your inference is >correct. A busker is a solo street musician who usually has a hat in >front of him to catch thrown coins. A bud of mine was a busker in >Montreal and actually survived at it! >theo Yes, this is probably the colloquial definition, but the Webster's I hold in front of me doesn't contain such a definition. (abbreviated): 1. a strip of any material that supports a woman's corset 2. to prepare, equip, to dress, to array, to employ, to make use of 3. to go, to hurry, to guide or direct one's course, (some obscure nautical usage which I don't feel like typing out) 4. a harvest feast, or feast of first fruits, among Creek Indians Chuck `[1;33;46mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From dahl at MAIL.AROS.NET Thu Sep 19 18:48:21 1996 From: dahl at MAIL.AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:48:21 -0600 Subject: Other: Will the real Steve Swann please stand up Message-ID: Carl, You seem to have a clear understanding of the issue. Now dust off your vinyl, listen to the track in question (or listen to WotT, but that's not gonna be as fun). Now get the CD version of SEE and listen to the track. You don't even have to go further than the opening lead to notice that something's up. Now continue to fortify yourself by going to my Web page: http://www.moosenet.com/poison.html Now just for the hell of it, let's all go read the FAQ! BOCboy96 aka Brad From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Sep 19 10:08:04 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:08:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I In-Reply-To: <199609190557.AAA00626@raygun.urbana.mcd.mot.com> Message-ID: In message <199609190557.AAA00626 at raygun.urbana.mcd.mot.com>, Matthew Braun writes >Naw. My bet is that it would be the end the group that writes it. >But then, that's what usually happens with Swann songs... > > m@ ggrrrrooooaann!!! :) -- Jon Browne From mumford at EUNET.NO Fri Sep 20 06:09:27 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:09:27 +0200 Subject: OFF: Re: me, myself and I Message-ID: > Dr. John Lilly's early data on experiments with isolation and LSD-25 > > Basic Belief No. 1 > > Basic Belief No. 1 was made possible by the early isolation results: > Assume that the subject's body and brain can operate comfortably > isolated without him paying any attention to it. This belief expresses > the faith that one has in one's experience in the isolation situation, > that one can consciously ignore the necessities of breathing and other > bodily functions, and that they will take care of themselves automatically > without detailed attention on the part of one's self. This result allowed > existence metaprograms to be made in relative safety. > > Succesful leaving of body and parking it in isolation for periods of twenty > minutes to two hours were succesful in sixteen different experiments. > This success, in turn, allowed other basic beliefs to be experimented upon. > The basic belief that one could leave the body and explore new universes > was succesfully programmed in the first eight different experiments lasting > from five minutes to forty minutes; the later eight experiments were on the > cognitional multidimensional space without the leaving the body metaprogram > (see previous section on Projection for the cognition space phenomenon). > > Basic Belief No. 2 > > The subject sought beings other than himself, not human, in whom he > existed and who control him and other human beings. Thus the subject > found whole new universes containing great varieties of beings, some > greater than himself, some equal to himself, and some lesser than himself. > > Those greater than himself were a set which was so huge in space-time as > to make the subject feel as a mere mote in their sunbeam, a single microflash > of energy in their time scale, my forty-five years are but an instant in their > lifetime, a single thought in their vast computer, a mere particle in their > assemblages of living cognitive units. He felt he was in the absolute > unconscious of these beings. > He experienced many more sets all so much greater than himself that they were > almost inconceivable in their complexity, size and time scales. > > Those beings which were close to the subject in complexity-size-time were > dichotomized into the evil ones and good ones. The evil ones (subject said) > were busy with purposes so foreign to his own that he had many near-misses > and almost fatal accidents in encounters with them; they were almost totally > unaware of his existence and hence almost wiped him out, apparently without > knowing it. The subject says that the good ones thought good thoughts to him, > through him, and to one another. They were at least conceivably human and > humane. He interpreted them as alien yet friendly. They were not so alien as > to be completely removed from human beings in regard to their purposes > and activities. > > Some of these beings (the subject reported) are programming us in the long term. > They nurture us. They experiment on us. They control the probability of our > discovering and exploiting new science. He reports that discoveries such as > nuclear energy, LSD-25, RNA-DNA, etc., are under probability control by these > beings. Further, humans are tested by some of these beings and cared for by > others. Some of them have programs which include our survival and progress. > Others have programs which include oppositions to these good programs and include > our ultimate demise as a species. > Thus the subject interpreted the evil ones as willing to sacrifice us in their > experiments; hence they are alien and removed from us. The subject reported with > this set of beliefs that only limited choices are still available to us as a > species. We are an ant colony in their laboratory. > > Basic Belief No. 3 > > The subject assumed the existence of beings in whom humans exist and > who directly control humans. This is a tighter control program than the > previous one and assumes continuous day and night, second to second, > control, as if each human being were a cell in a larger organism. Such beings > insist upon activities in each human being totally under the control of the > organism of which each human being is a part. In this state there is no free will > and no freedom for an individual. This supra-self-metaprogram was entered > twice by the subject; each time he had to leave it; for him it was too anxiety- > provoking. In the first case he became a part of a vast computer in which he was > one element. In the second case he was a thought in a much larger mind: being > modified rapidly, flexibly and plastically. > > All of the above experiments were done looking upward in Fig. 1 from the > self-programmer to the supra-self-metaprograms. A converse set of experiments > was done in which the self-metaprogrammer looked downward towards the > metaprograms, the programs and the lower levels of Fig. 1. > > Basic Belief No. 4 > > One set of basic beliefs can be subsumed under the directions seek those > beings whom we control and who exist in us. With this program the subject > found old models in himself (old programs, old metaprograms, implanted by > others, implanted by self, injected by parents, by teachers, etc.) He found that > these were disparate and separate autonomous beings in himself. He described > them as noisy group. His incorporated parents, his siblings, his own offspring, > his teachers, his wife seemed to be a disorganized crowd within him, each > running and arguing a program with him and in him. > While he watched, battles took place between these models during the > experiment. He settled many disparate and nonintegrated points between these > beings and gradually incorporated more of them into the self-metaprogram. > > After many weeks of self-analysis outside the experimental milieu (and some > help with his former analyst), it was seen that these beings within the self > were also those other beings outside self of the other experiments. The subject > described the projected as-if-outside beings to be cognitional carnivores > attempting to eat up his self-metaprogram and wrest control from him. As the > various levels of metaprograms became straightened out in the subject, he was > able to categorize and begin to control the various levels as they were presented > during these experiments. As his apparently unconscious needs for credence in > these beliefs were attenuated with analytic work, his freedom to move from one > set of basic beliefs to another was increased and the anxiety associated with this > kind of movement gradually disappeared. > > A basic overall metaprogram was finally generated: For his own > intellectual satisfaction the subject found that he best assume that > all of the phenomena that took place existed only in his own brain and > in his own mind. Other assumptions about the existence of these beings > had become subjects suitable for research rather than subjects for blind > (unconscious, conscious) belief for this person. > > Basic Belief No. 5 > > Experiments also were done upon movements of self forward and back > in space-time. The results showed that when attempting to go forward into > the future the subject began to realize his own goals for that future, and > imagine wishful thinking solutions to current problems. When he put in the > metaprogram for going back into his own childhood, real and phantasy > memories were evoked and integrated. When he pushed back through to > the in utero situation, he found an early nightmare which was reinvoked and > solved. Relying on his scientific knowledge, he pushed the program back > through previous generations, prehuman primates, carnivores, fish and > protozoa. He experienced a sperm-egg explosion on the way through this > past reinvocation of imaginary experience. > > The last set of experiments (see Use of Projection section) was made > possible by the results of the previous set. Progress in controlling the > projection metaprogram resulted from the other universes experiments. > Finally the subject understood and had become familiar with his need for > phantasied other universes. Analytic work allowed him to bypass this need > and penetrate into the cognitional multidimensional projection spaces. > Experiments in programming in this innermost space showed results quite > satisfying to a high degree of credence in the belief that all experiments in > the series showed inner happenings without needing the participation of outer > causes. The need for the constant use of outer causes was found to be a > projected outward metaprogram to avoid taking personal responsibility for > portions of the contents of his own mind. His dislike for certain kinds of > his own nonsensical programs caused him to project them and thus avoid > admitting they were his. > > In summation, the subjectively apparent results of the experiments were > to straighten out a good deal of the "nonsense" in this subject's computer. > Through these experiments he was able to examine some warded-off beliefs > and defensive structures accumulated throughout his life. The net result was > a feeling of greater integration of self and a feeling of positive affect for the > current structure of himself, combined with an improved skepticism of the > validity of subjective judging of events in self. > > Some objective testing of these essentially subjective judgments have been > initiated through cooperation with other persons. Such objective testing is very > difficult; this area needs a great deal of future research work. We need better > investigative techniques, combining subjective and behavioral (verbal) techniques. > The major feeling that one has after such experiences and experiments is that the > fluidity and plasticity of one's computer has certain limits to it, and that those > limits > have been enlarged somewhat by the experiments. How long such enlargement > lasts and to what extent are still not known of course. A certain amount of > continued critical skepticism about and in the self-metaprogram (and it its felt > changes) is very necessary for a scientist exploring these areas. One of these could possibly explain mr. Swann's grand delusion? (or perhaps he just read the god-part of the Hawkwind Log...) Christian From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Sep 20 06:29:30 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:29:30 +0100 Subject: Other: Will the real Steve Swann please stand up In-Reply-To: <199609192241.QAA13983@mailhub.aros.net> from "Brad Dahl" at Sep 19, 96 04:48:21 pm Message-ID: > You seem to have a clear understanding of the issue. Now dust off your > vinyl, listen to the track in question (or listen to WotT, but that's not > gonna be as fun). It'll have to do, since I don't _have_ the vinyl :) I think they had stopped pressing BOC vinyl somewhat before I became a fan ;) (Showing my age now, that I am ;) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************* Carl Edlund Anderson "So that's Terra. Oohwee, cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk look out wenchlings, here http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html come the Hawklords." Dept. of ASNAC, University of Cambridge -Lord Lemmy (Hawkwind) ************************************************************************* From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Fri Sep 20 06:39:31 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 10:39:31 UT Subject: OFF: Amon Duul 2/Porcupine Tree Message-ID: Reminder about tomorrow's show at the Shepherd's Bush Empire - any of the southern England types going? - Andy ObZoo: went to London Zoo recently, saw the tree porcupines. Honest. ObCD: Type O Negative - _October Rust_. Very silly. ObCrapJoke: Onan the Barbarian. From mumford at EUNET.NO Fri Sep 20 07:53:17 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 13:53:17 +0200 Subject: Listing subscribers Message-ID: Is there a way to list all subscribers on this list? Christian From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Fri Sep 20 07:05:39 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 22:05:39 +1100 Subject: The conspiracy unmasked!!!! Message-ID: On 18 Sep 96 at 22:11, Carl E. Anderson wrote: > And when are you gonna tour Australia? People in the Northeastern > US get to see Steve all the time, so I don't want to hear any more whining > about his choice of material ... Not to mention all the whining from down under that we never get to see any real Swann-clones live ..... > But really, it's just another step along the way in the > neverending story of the psychedelic warlords with *way* to much > time on their hands ... :) Perhaps some of the other Steve's should come down here too .... seeing they have so much free time, they could do my work for me (hey - the boss would never notice - I don't know what what I'm doing anyway ..... why else would we have ended up with a faulty capacitor in the R.O.D.S. Robot otherwise?), and then I could put in my share of "but I'm Steve" messages too! I think I'll lurk again for a while now .... Swannique -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Fri Sep 20 07:13:52 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 22:13:52 +1100 Subject: HW: etc. (was Re: Abducted !Go to bed!) Message-ID: On 18 Sep 96 at 14:04, Carl E. Anderson wrote: > time, and Sonique: I'm at long last dubbing the Brixton HW gig tapes > for you and eventually will even get to the requests from other people > on the list ... Woo-Hoo! Well that save's me from writing that nasty letter I was working on ..... and you can call me Steve! Sonique -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Sep 20 08:45:19 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 13:45:19 +0100 Subject: HW: etc. (was Re: Abducted !Go to bed!) In-Reply-To: <199609200941.TAA04837@hyme.pcmicro.com.au> from "Assassin Sonique" at Sep 20, 96 10:13:52 pm Message-ID: > > time, and Sonique: I'm at long last dubbing the Brixton HW gig tapes > > for you and eventually will even get to the requests from other people > > on the list ... > > Woo-Hoo! Well that save's me from writing that nasty letter I was > working on ..... and you can call me Steve! No problem, Steve ;) We are slow but we get there eventually. Bernard's tapes were on the top of my list, and even they took months-- a situation largely brought about by my being poor enough that I literally could not afford the postage :) But I've got a little cash now, and am hastening to dub things, post things, and catch up on a few vital CD purchases before I'm in the hole again :) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Fri Sep 20 10:01:57 1996 From: cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:01:57 EST Subject: HW: CYM and Sonic Attack ReReleased!!! Message-ID: Just checked out the Griffin site (www.griffinmusic.com/new.htm) for the tracklist of these two "new" monsters. Looks like CYM has two extra tracks tacked on, an alternate version of "Silver Machine (Full version)" and a 1982 recording of "Psych.Warlords". The SA has the extra track "Transdimensional Man", previously only available as a B-side on a 7". Both have a release date of Sept.24 (next Tuesday). And the price is US$12.98 (+p&h) direct from Griffin. No mention of them on RPMs page, has anybody called Delta Wave about availability yet? Captain Cloud (returning from lurker mode) cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com OFF: Looks like Griffin is also putting out an Eloy comp drawn from the three early seventies releases "Floating", "Inside", and "Power and the Passion". With only a couple of songs from the first two, and four songs from the third one, this is merely a teaser for those who already know Eloy. However, this is probably a good low-price introduction to this terrific group for those Americans who have not been able to find any releases. NOTE: This period of Eloy is just before they entered their peak (IMH-but-disputed-O), so the songs are quite good, but the next few years after "P&tP" produced their most popular titles. A great second purchase might be either "Live" or "Silent Cries Mighty Echoes" (which has strong HW-related lyrics). From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Fri Sep 20 09:02:41 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 09:02:41 -0400 Subject: Listing subscribers In-Reply-To: <324285AD.4E72@eunet.no> Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Christian Mumford wondered: > Is there a way to list all subscribers on this list? Hopefully not, as such lists of e-mail addresses have the annoying habit of falling into the hands of spammers and other unsolicited marketing types... Cheers, Paul. obCD: Frank Zappa, _Guitar_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From mumford at EUNET.NO Fri Sep 20 09:50:15 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 15:50:15 +0200 Subject: Listing subscribers Message-ID: Paul Mather wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Christian Mumford wondered: > > > Is there a way to list all subscribers on this list? > > Hopefully not, as such lists of e-mail addresses have the annoying habit > of falling into the hands of spammers and other unsolicited marketing > types... > > Cheers, > > Paul. > Oh well, I guess my marketing of personalized psychedelic garden-gnomes with the likeness of Ross Perot will have to be taken elsewhere! Christian From acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK Fri Sep 20 10:54:12 1996 From: acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK (Andy Cobley) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:54:12 +0000 Subject: Listing subscribers Message-ID: Christian Mumford wrote: > > Paul Mather wrote: > > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Christian Mumford wondered: > > > > > Is there a way to list all subscribers on this list? > > > > Hopefully not, as such lists of e-mail addresses have the annoying habit > > of falling into the hands of spammers and other unsolicited marketing > > types... > > > > Cheers, > > > > Paul. > > > > Oh well, I guess my marketing of personalized psychedelic garden-gnomes > with the likeness of Ross Perot will have to be taken elsewhere! > > Christian I hate to say this but i think there is a way to get the list members I'm just testing it now ! -- Javap-uk, a uk mailbase for Java programmers To join javap-uk send the command: Join javap-uk firstname(s) lastname mailbase at mailbase.ac.uk From bzhj81 at LAE.LAD.GMEDS.COM Fri Sep 20 10:10:46 1996 From: bzhj81 at LAE.LAD.GMEDS.COM (Jeff Barlow) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 10:10:46 -0400 Subject: HW & Re: Listing subscribers Message-ID: > On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Christian Mumford wondered: > > > Is there a way to list all subscribers on this list? To which Paul replied: > Hopefully not, as such lists of e-mail addresses have the annoying habit > of falling into the hands of spammers and other unsolicited marketing > types... Actually, there is...the listserv refcard has the particulars. HW content: I am sure that this was already discussed, but my local store has an import copy of the Alan Davey solo CD in stock and I was curious as to whether I should wait for a domestic release or pick it up now. As with all HW imports, it's a bit pricey (US $27.00) but if it's something that I really should get now I'll rush off and pick it up. Comments? Jeff --------------------- Jeff Barlow bzhj81 at lae.lad.gmeds.com (work) jsbarlow at mich.com (home) http://www.mich.com/~jsbarlow/LedZeppelin.html From mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK Fri Sep 20 15:55:53 1996 From: mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK (Mike Parkington) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 15:55:53 +-100 Subject: Listing subscribers Message-ID: What the hell is a spammer? Mike P. ---------- From: Paul Mather[SMTP:paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU] Sent: Friday, September 20, 1996 02:02 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: Listing subscribers On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Christian Mumford wondered: > Is there a way to list all subscribers on this list? Hopefully not, as such lists of e-mail addresses have the annoying habit of falling into the hands of spammers and other unsolicited marketing types... 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Suite 400 -------mmmmmmm- Atlanta, GA 30342 (404) 845-3404 From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Fri Sep 20 12:39:08 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:39:08 -0400 Subject: BOC: Latest word on new album Message-ID: Eric Bloom posted the following info, which was posted to MilesKB's BOC page (http://www.clark.net/pub/mileskb/boc/news.html): An update from Eric Bloom. Excerpt from posting on AOL September 15, 1996: Hiya everyone...we just spent the last 3 days working on new tunes...Buck has brought in some really good new things which we worked up together and they promise to be vintage Buckster material...Allen has some good musical ideas and one new Buck/Eric collaboration...we intend to begin actual recording after the Oct 4, 5 shows...(oh yeah, Oct 4 in Springfield, VA has been added the day before the Stone Mt , GA show...some of ya know the place in VA :) ...those of you coming to our shows with REO coming up soon will get to hear some of these brand new tunes for the first time, as we intend to play them live before recording them..obviously we will be playing them on the Oct. 4, 5 shows too...so far we are on schedule for the already posted Springish '97 release John From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Fri Sep 20 12:45:56 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:45:56 -0400 Subject: BOC: Old observations Message-ID: Someone recently sent me several articles and reviews of BOC that appeared in (mostly British) publications back in the 70's and 80's. There were 2 observations I found rather interesting: 1. A reviewer of one of the shows in '78 thought that BOC's setlist had become very stale, and that it was time for the band to do away with several songs that they had been playing for years. Wonder what this person would think 18 years later of BOC's sets? 2. In one of the articles, the person mentioned "Godzilla" as being influenced by the rock classic, "Wild Thing". When I first read this, I thought it was nuts, but then I imagined the guitar chords in both tunes -- well, the chords are different, but I'll be dammned how close the rhythms come - it's almost like "Godzilla" is "Wild Thing" written in a minor key. John From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Sep 20 13:18:18 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 18:18:18 +0100 Subject: Listing subscribers In-Reply-To: from "Paul Mather" at Sep 20, 96 09:02:41 am Message-ID: > > Is there a way to list all subscribers on this list? > > Hopefully not, as such lists of e-mail addresses have the annoying habit > of falling into the hands of spammers and other unsolicited marketing > types... Not that we've ever seen unsolicited marketing (concerning, for example, CD storage) here ... Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Sep 20 13:32:36 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 18:32:36 +0100 Subject: HW: CYM and Sonic Attack ReReleased!!! In-Reply-To: <9608208432.AA843235317@hpsc.hisd.harris.com> from "cjohnson" at Sep 20, 96 09:01:57 am Message-ID: > Just checked out the Griffin site (www.griffinmusic.com/new.htm) > for the tracklist of these two "new" monsters. Looks like CYM has > two extra tracks tacked on, an alternate version of "Silver > Machine (Full version)" Could this possibly be the full version of "Silver Machine (Requiem)"? from _Live 79_? That would be a highly worthwhile thing to include--so much so that I doubt it is the case! Cheers, Carl ********************************************************************** Carl Edlund Anderson ASNAC Dept, U of Cambridge cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk ********************************************************************** From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Sep 20 07:19:29 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 12:19:29 +0100 Subject: OFF: Amon Duul 2/Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Andrew Gilham writes >Reminder about tomorrow's show at the Shepherd's Bush Empire - any of the >southern England types going? > >- Andy I would but, i'm a bit stuffed for cash right now. it's not the ticket or even the cab fare but the Ob 10 pints of lager that makes going out a bit pricey right now :) -- Jon Browne ObCD Naz Nomad and the Nightmares - "Give Daddy The Knife Cindy" (Damned doing Seeds, Prunes etc covers. old but good) From Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM Fri Sep 20 12:45:51 1996 From: Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:45:51 -0500 Subject: Live 1974 Tracks on the Web Message-ID: Dear Hawkfans, Having seen the recent newsgroup posting announcing that there may be some tracks from the forthcoming 1974 Live Album being posted on the web, I contacted EMI and got the following information: There were some pre-production track snippets made in March of this year from the master tapes from the '74 gigs. These snippets were of a very rough un-mixed quality and to be used for a guide to the quality of the master tapes. EMI had a brief internal discussion about whether or not to use these snippets on the web but it was decided that this would be a wholly inappropriate use of the snippets and would be detremental to the release of the album to use these snippets as representations of the finished product. These conversations were held within EMI and Hawkwind, Hawkwind's management and myself were not informed until now. I haven't heard these snippets myself, but EMI have said that ' if anyone hasheard these snippets and think they are good, they haven't heard anything yet!' I am also updating the news page on the site within the next day with a request for feedback as to whether or not fans would like to see the UA remasterd series released on vinyl. Yours, Star Rats From skarsol at EROLS.COM Fri Sep 20 09:42:45 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 13:42:45 +0000 Subject: OFF: gong tour,u.s.,oct.(for keith) Message-ID: Keith A Henderson wrote: > thanks for the info keith!:) From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Sep 20 13:27:14 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 18:27:14 +0100 Subject: HW : Cap. Rot. In-Reply-To: <199609201410.KAA06781@lnl70ga0.lae.lad.gmeds.com> Message-ID: In message <199609201410.KAA06781 at lnl70ga0.lae.lad.gmeds.com>, Jeff Barlow writes >HW content: > >I am sure that this was already discussed, but my local store has an import copy >of the Alan Davey solo CD in stock and I was curious as to whether I should wait >for a domestic release or pick it up now. As with all HW imports, it's a bit >pricey (US $27.00) but if it's something that I really should get now I'll rush >off and pick it up. > >Comments? > >Jeff I only got my copy a day or two ago (thanks HMV) but I think its the best HW and related release since Electric Tepee. This'll be contested (probably) but I prefer it to Love In Space and Alien 4 (at the moment, anyway). I'd say BUY NOW! -- Jon Browne From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Fri Sep 20 14:29:39 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:29:39 +0200 Subject: Live 1974 Tracks on the Web Message-ID: >I am also updating the news page on the site within the next day with a >request for feedback as to whether or not fans would like to see the UA >remasterd series released on vinyl. you're kidding??!? can there be a reason for voting no? >Yours, > Star Rats \\drool swann From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Fri Sep 20 15:50:35 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Le Monsieur) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 14:50:35 -0500 Subject: HW: CYM and Sonic Attack ReReleased!!! In-Reply-To: <9608208432.AA843235317@hpsc.hisd.harris.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, cjohnson wrote: > Both have a release date of Sept.24 (next Tuesday). And the price > is US$12.98 (+p&h) direct from Griffin. No mention of them on RPMs > page, has anybody called Delta Wave about availability yet? Talked to Mike last night... he's supposed to get a *few* today (Friday) [10 each, if I'm quoting him right, and most of those are already reserved... I got mine! :) :) ] But he'll be getting a bunch more in early next week, provided his distributor is up on thangs. Damon Capehart | "As their numbers dwindled from 70 to 8, the aka Le Monsieur | dwarves began to suspect Hungry..." dcapehar at utdallas.edu | From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Fri Sep 20 16:50:47 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:50:47 UT Subject: HW : Cap. Rot. Message-ID: Jon said >I only got my copy a day or two ago (thanks HMV) but I think its the >best HW and related release since Electric Tepee. This'll be contested >(probably) but I prefer it to Love In Space and Alien 4 (at the moment, >anyway). I'd say BUY NOW! Well, I've had my copy a couple or three weeks, and I'm not contesting! (Well, I'd say best HW and related release since The Business Trip, but that's splitting hairs.) I've certainly played it a LOT more than either A4 or LIS. - Andy From stayer at PI.NET Fri Sep 20 21:29:11 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 18:29:11 PDT Subject: BOC: Imaginos Message-ID: Jerry wrote: >>I got an e-mail from someone whose friend didn't have I-access (poor >>sucker). His friend didn't have and was still looking for Imaginos (poor >>sucker). He lived in Daytona, and he has checked every shop. They checked >>the Sony home page, but they didn't have it listen as being available. >>Can anyone help this rather unfortunate soul? I mean, missing Imaginos... >>whew! I couldn't live knowing that! Andrew replied: >Actually, I can't find it on CD (though I have it on tape), either. Must >not be around in Florida... Holy shit. I'm getting the idea it's easier to find here in Holland than it is in the USA! :-) Hm... I wonder when the new BOC album will be released. Fair chance it'll be released here in Europe before it's released in the USA. Thanks anyway, Jerry From JenWaldorf at AOL.COM Sat Sep 21 05:05:22 1996 From: JenWaldorf at AOL.COM (Jennifer Waldorf) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 05:05:22 -0400 Subject: BOC: Imaginos Message-ID: Circuit City has a large selection of BOC, which I believe, includes Imaginos Jen From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sat Sep 21 07:51:13 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 12:51:13 +0100 Subject: Live 1974 Tracks on the Web In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960920203149.137f2bf4@eka.ericsson.se> from "Johan Edlundh" at Sep 20, 96 08:29:39 pm Message-ID: > >I am also updating the news page on the site within the next day with a > >request for feedback as to whether or not fans would like to see the UA > >remasterd series released on vinyl. > > you're kidding??!? > can there be a reason for voting no? Well, I'm not exactly going to vote no, but I will cast a vote of "don't care". I don't have an LP-player and am unlikely to get one anytime in the forseeable future, so vinyl is almost useless to me. I tend to acquire things on vinyl only when its the only option, and certainly won't spend money to duplicate on vinyl what I already have on CD. And vinyl just doesn't have that warm crackly sound of wax cylinders ;) However, if EMI wanted to sell posters based on the artwork I would get those. A giant SR poster would be cool. Or posters with band photographs on them. Some of those shots are priceless :) and would look excellent on my wall :) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From mordru at MAGG.NET Sat Sep 21 11:27:14 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 11:27:14 -0400 Subject: BOC: Imaginos Message-ID: >Circuit City has a large selection of BOC, which I believe, includes Imaginos That'd be your circuit city. The one here has Workshop, the Cult Classic in a different cover (some kind of best of rock title with a picture of the band...), and that's it. Best Buy usually has the best selection around here, having everything except Cultosaurus, Club Ninja, and Imaginos. These things vary from place to place. It is meaningless to me.... unless you're willing to tell me how much I must send you to get you to pick one up and send it to me.... =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Fri Sep 20 23:40:23 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 14:40:23 +1100 Subject: OFF Re: Spam spam spam wonderful spam Message-ID: Craig Shipley wrote: > > > > > What the hell is a spammer? > > > > Mike P. > > > A "spammer" is a wonderful individual that posts to damn near every > newsgroup/mailing list/individual person a post that has little or no > revelancy to the group, etc. Name comes from the old Monty Python skit > that repeated "spam" ad nauseum. Well, in that case, the bangles are spoken for, don't you know my darling, but that maketh not the man, being a hermaphrodite, or at least, so I am told. But, that aside, our own conciousness is infinite, at least, to my infinite reconing, think ye not? But...the question must come up, is the brain the mind? (THIS IS an actual question). Is the mind a separate entity from the brain? I propose that it is the same thing, and I could back this up if anyone had the time and interest to divert their energies to this kind of philosophising... Who knows? -Max Wilcox From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Sep 21 13:32:46 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 18:32:46 +0100 Subject: OFF Re: Spam spam spam wonderful spam In-Reply-To: <324363A7.751C@student.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: In message <324363A7.751C at student.uq.edu.au>, Max Wilcox writes >But...the question must >come up, is the brain the mind? (THIS IS an actual question) Try alt.out.of.body.experience for the answer. -- Jon Browne From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Sep 21 13:31:16 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 18:31:16 +0100 Subject: Live 1974 Tracks on the Web In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , "Carl E. Anderson" writes > However, if EMI wanted to sell posters based on the artwork >I would get those. A giant SR poster would be cool. Or posters with >band photographs on them. Some of those shots are priceless :) and >would look excellent on my wall :) > >Cheers, >Carl Yeah, definately. Any chance of buying merchandise in general via the web-site? Like some T-shirts, p'raps? -- Jon Browne From skarsol at EROLS.COM Sat Sep 21 10:02:00 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 14:02:00 +0000 Subject: Live 1974 Tracks on the Web Message-ID: Carl E. Anderson wrote: > > > >I am also updating the news page on the site within the next day with a > > >request for feedback as to whether or not fans would like to see the UA > > >remasterd series released on vinyl. > > > > you're kidding??!? > > can there be a reason for voting no? > > Well, I'm not exactly going to vote no, but I will cast a vote > of "don't care". I don't have an LP-player and am unlikely to get one > anytime in the forseeable future, so vinyl is almost useless to me. > I tend to acquire things on vinyl only when its the only option, and > certainly won't spend money to duplicate on vinyl what I already have on > CD. > > And vinyl just doesn't have that warm crackly sound of wax > cylinders ;) > > However, if EMI wanted to sell posters based on the artwork > I would get those. A giant SR poster would be cool. Or posters with > band photographs on them. Some of those shots are priceless :) and > would look excellent on my wall :) > > Cheers, > Carl > i agree with carl on all counts,tho i do have a turntable,i prefer not to use it. i want those posters too! rj From gporter at FURBALL.HAYES.COM Sat Sep 21 14:48:02 1996 From: gporter at FURBALL.HAYES.COM (Grant Porter) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 14:48:02 -0400 Subject: BOC: Stone Mountain, GA Chili Cook-Off Message-ID: Anyone know what time BOC is supposed to play on Oct 5th. here in GA? I've found some details on the chili cook-off and it runs from 10-5. BOC, Randy Bachman, and two other groups are supposed to be playing but I haven't found a schedule for the bands. Oddly enough, advance cook-off tickets are available at Ticket Monger (uhh...Monster..uhh Master). Does anyone know if advance tickets are avaiable anywhere else? I don't expect things to be overflowing.. but I'd kick myself if I missed this event. -Grant gporter at furball.hayes.com gporter at furball.slime.org imaginos at netime.com From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Sep 21 04:43:53 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 09:43:53 +0100 Subject: Live 1974 Tracks on the Web In-Reply-To: <199609201645.LAA02416@deliverator.io.com> Message-ID: In message <199609201645.LAA02416 at deliverator.io.com>, Hawkwind writes >These conversations were held within EMI and Hawkwind, Hawkwind's >management >and myself were not informed until now. I haven't heard these snippets >myself, but EMI have said that ' if anyone has heard these snippets >and think they are good, they haven't heard anything yet!' The Brainbox Pollution I heard was better than good, it fuckin' ROCKED MIGHTILY!!! As I said, This sounds like it could possibly be _the_ best ever HW release. > >I am also updating the news page on the site within the next day with a >request for feedback as to whether or not fans would like to see the UA >remasterd series released on vinyl. Personally, I think I'd pass on a re-mastered vinyl set. Having bought all 5 on Cd, Love In Space, Alien 4, Solstice re-mixes, Silver Machine Comp. and Captured Rotation in addition to upgrading several other releases - Xenon, Quark, Out and Intake to CD _plus_ there's still Sonic Attack, Choose Your Masques AND LIVE 1974 to come this year, and there _are_ one or two other bands I need to keep up with, I don't think I could justify buying the same records again. For the forth or fifth time in some cases e.g. Space Ritual. It's a nice idea though. If they were put in front of me, I *might* find them too hard to resist. >Yours, > Star Rats -- Jon Browne From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Sat Sep 21 17:51:27 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 17:51:27 -0400 Subject: OFF Re: Spam spam spam wonderful spam HUH?!? Message-ID: Craig Shipley wrote: > > > > > What the hell is a spammer? > > > > Mike P. > > > A "spammer" is a wonderful individual that posts to damn near every > newsgroup/mailing list/individual person a post that has little or no > revelancy to the group, etc. Name comes from the old Monty Python skit > that repeated "spam" ad nauseum. Well, in that case, the bangles are spoken for, don't you know my darling, but that maketh not the man, being a hermaphrodite, or at least, so I am told. But, that aside, our own conciousness is infinite, at least, to my infinite reconing, think ye not? But...the question must come up, is the brain the mind? (THIS IS an actual question). Is the mind a separate entity from the brain? I propose that it is the same thing, and I could back this up if anyone had the time and interest to divert their energies to this kind of philosophising... Who knows? -Max Wilcox What the ****, over?!? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1888 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stayer at PI.NET Sat Sep 21 13:58:17 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 10:58:17 PDT Subject: RealAudio Message-ID: Martyn wrote: > Has anyone checked this out? It's incredible. I'm >listening to virgin radio from London over the internet. > So when can someone set up a Realaudio server for >BOC and HW? Where can I get RealAudio? How's the delay and quality? Jerry From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Sat Sep 21 21:39:12 1996 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 21:39:12 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Sightings Message-ID: MikeMango writes: My friend, Frank Balisteri just returned from Europe and reported your CDs are in HMVs in uk & France. Anyone else seen 'em anywhere? DF From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Sep 19 16:55:52 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 21:55:52 +0100 Subject: HW: CYM and Sonic Attack ReReleased!!! In-Reply-To: <9609191327.aa13545@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> Message-ID: In message <9609191327.aa13545 at uk.ac.ed.tattoo>, J Strobridge writes >Would some nice person in the USofA be able to locate a copy of these >for me? It'll save me coming across! > >thanx > >jill They *are* coming out over here as well, arent they? -- Jon Browne From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Sep 19 16:15:30 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 21:15:30 +0100 Subject: Nik Turner's sphinx : Xitintoday In-Reply-To: <32413EF2.6C00@pasteur.fr> Message-ID: In message <32413EF2.6C00 at pasteur.fr>, nico writes >I'm searching for a nick turner "solo" album: >Nik Turner's sphinx : Xitintoday, 1978 (charisma) >Is there someone who can tell me where I can find it >thanks!!! >nico (npuchot at pasteur.fr) As far as I know, you'll have to seek out the original vinyl at record fairs, etc. I've got a tape i got hold off years ago and I've been looking for the vinyl ever since. I *have* seen it listed once or twice in Record Collector (UK) but never at a time when I could afford it. Which, thinking about it, means I haven't seen it for at least seven years 'coz that's how long it's been since I was *that* skint Do keep looking, I think its a brilliant piece, though it doesn't sound much like anything else he's done. He did re-make the album recently, though. Out on Cleopatra. I havn't heard that yet. Anyone out there care to compare? -- Jon Browne From stayer at PI.NET Sun Sep 22 06:08:01 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 03:08:01 PDT Subject: OFF: drugs Message-ID: > writes >>But...the question must >>come up, is the brain the mind? (THIS IS an actual question) Jon Browne replies: >Try alt.out.of.body.experience for the answer. Make me think of a trial going on here in Holland. There's a number of shops selling magic mushrooms. You know, the ones with the hallucinating drug in it. The government wants to have them banned. It's a product of nature, so they will have lots of problems declaring it illegal. (Hemp plants are easier to spot and need lots more attention to be really effective.) Haven't tried it yet, but my bro has got some. Jerry 'cannabis sativa hollandia' From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun Sep 22 07:38:39 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 12:38:39 +0100 Subject: Live 1974 Tracks on the Web In-Reply-To: from "Jon Browne" at Sep 21, 96 06:31:16 pm Message-ID: > > However, if EMI wanted to sell posters based on the artwork > >I would get those. A giant SR poster would be cool. Or posters with > >band photographs on them. Some of those shots are priceless :) and > >would look excellent on my wall :) > > Yeah, definately. Any chance of buying merchandise in general via the > web-site? Like some T-shirts, p'raps? Especially if the appropriate schemes for credit card payments and overseas shipping were worked out. There are a lot of US Hawkfans who'd probably be happy to spend money on such. Yeah, _I_ know: Hawkwind is not about profit. Well, they can put the money towards a US or Australian tour! It doesn't seem to me like they're rolling in so much cash that they need to worry about getting rich! Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************* Carl Edlund Anderson "So that's Terra. Oohwee, cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk look out wenchlings, here http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html come the Hawklords." Dept. of ASNAC, University of Cambridge -Lord Lemmy (Hawkwind) ************************************************************************* From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun Sep 22 07:41:34 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 12:41:34 +0100 Subject: BRAIN: Sightings In-Reply-To: <960921213911_290234561@emout08.mail.aol.com> from "DFrost8547@AOL.COM" at Sep 21, 96 09:39:12 pm Message-ID: > MikeMango writes: My friend, Frank Balisteri just returned from > Europe and reported your CDs are in HMVs in uk & France. > Anyone else seen 'em anywhere? When Andy Gilham, Tania, and I were perusing shops in London back in August I think we ran across some at at least one record shop ... Must still be a few left over here ... Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Sun Sep 22 08:54:15 1996 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (Mike Wright) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 13:54:15 +0100 Subject: HW: Bath 2nd Nov gig - here's the latest news. In-Reply-To: <9609181519.aa03457@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> Message-ID: On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, M Holmes wrote: > Is there any more news of the 12 hour gig in Bath? Will Hawkwind and > Porcupine Tree be playing? > > Enquiring minds want to know. Dear all, well, I went to The ticket office (or at least a ticket agency who sold me a ticket for the Gong gig organised by the same people) and explained what I wanted, and he said that the November gig had been postponed, he had been told about it on Thurs 19th. Apparently it was contractual difficulties with some of the support bands, so we probably cannot blame Doug S for this one. However it is planned to take place in January now. I am on the list for tickets when he knows what is what, he will phone me to tell me when he knows more, and obviously I shall pass on the news as soon as possible. Cheers Mike w From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Sat Sep 21 21:00:35 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 12:00:35 +1100 Subject: Nik Turner's sphinx : Xitintoday Message-ID: Jon Browne wrote: > > In message <32413EF2.6C00 at pasteur.fr>, nico writes > >I'm searching for a nick turner "solo" album: > >Nik Turner's sphinx : Xitintoday, 1978 (charisma) > >Is there someone who can tell me where I can find it > >thanks!!! > >nico (npuchot at pasteur.fr) > > As far as I know, you'll have to seek out the original vinyl at record > fairs, etc. I've got a tape i got hold off years ago and I've been > looking for the vinyl ever since. I *have* seen it listed once or twice > in Record Collector (UK) but never at a time when I could afford it. > Which, thinking about it, means I haven't seen it for at least seven > years 'coz that's how long it's been since I was *that* skint > > Do keep looking, I think its a brilliant piece, though it doesn't sound > much like anything else he's done. > > He did re-make the album recently, though. Out on Cleopatra. I havn't > heard that yet. Anyone out there care to compare? poet style> > > -- > Jon Browne By this do you mean Anubian Lights? It's not a remake is it? Actually, I do have some memory of a re-release of it of some kind. I'd be verily interested in obtaining this if anyone has it, too.... -Max Wilcox From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Sun Sep 22 10:00:36 1996 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (Mike Wright) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 15:00:36 +0100 Subject: HW: Born To Go In-Reply-To: <199609190735.DAA02696@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: An (almost) unprompted testimonial On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Jeremy Dacombe wrote: > Just a short note to let you know that the excellent > "BORN TO GO" book will be out of print by the end of 1996. > ***************************************************************** > I really can't recommend this book highly enough. > Makes an excellent companion to Kris Tait's "Do Not Panic" > without actually duplicating it. > Any comments from those of you who already have it? I have recently acquired this volume, and would also heartily recommend it, a well written booklet with lots of new info (well new to me) and a good style, so rush out and buy this before it is too late. Mike w p.s. I do not work for Gavin or anyone connected with this fine enterprise, but merely am a well satisfied customer (no honestly this time it is true) From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Sat Sep 21 21:04:43 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 12:04:43 +1100 Subject: OFF: drugs Message-ID: Jerry wrote: > > > writes > >>But...the question must > >>come up, is the brain the mind? (THIS IS an actual question) > > Jon Browne replies: > >Try alt.out.of.body.experience for the answer. > > Make me think of a trial going on here in Holland. There's a number of shops > selling magic mushrooms. You know, the ones with the hallucinating drug in > it. The government wants to have them banned. > > It's a product of nature, so they will have lots of problems declaring it > illegal. (Hemp plants are easier to spot and need lots more attention to be > really effective.) > > Haven't tried it yet, but my bro has got some. > > Jerry 'cannabis sativa hollandia' Well, I certainly would love to get a hold of some of those. It may be similar to those herbal ecstacy things that you can order, coz there one product called magic mushrooms, which are a mixture of various hard to get mushies. Don't know wether you get the same kind of full on psychoactive experience, though, judging by the herbal e's. -Max Wilcox From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Sat Sep 21 21:07:10 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 12:07:10 +1100 Subject: Live 1974 Tracks on the Web Message-ID: > Yeah, _I_ know: Hawkwind is not about profit. Well, they can > put the money towards a US or Australian tour! It doesn't seem to > me like they're rolling in so much cash that they need to worry about > getting rich! > > Cheers, > Carl Yeh! Australian tour! AUSTRALIAN TOUR! AUSTRALIAN TOUR! Geeze, the only fantastic band I've seen of note is Floyd, but I guess that makes up it a little... -Max Wilcox From kalex at EECS.UMICH.EDU Sun Sep 22 10:56:35 1996 From: kalex at EECS.UMICH.EDU (Ken Alexander) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 10:56:35 -0400 Subject: Nik Turner's sphinx : Xitintoday Message-ID: > > >Nik Turner's sphinx : Xitintoday, 1978 (charisma) > > >Is there someone who can tell me where I can find it > > > > He did re-make the album recently, though. Out on Cleopatra. > > > By this do you mean Anubian Lights? No. _Sphinx_ by Nik Turner, 1993. Cleopatra 21352. From uriah at HERMITAGE.RU Sun Sep 22 11:21:39 1996 From: uriah at HERMITAGE.RU (Yuri Elik) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 19:21:39 +0400 Subject: Live 1974 Tracks on the Web Message-ID: Hawkwind wrote: > I am also updating the news page on the site within the next day with a > request for feedback as to whether or not fans would like to see the UA > remasterd series released on vinyl. Well, I'd definitely would prefer them on vinyl. On the other hand, I already have all of them on vinyl. But maybe if I'd see ISoS with an old-fashioned foldout sleeve and Hawkwind log (it seems there's no other possibility to get it anyway), not to mention bonus tracks... I think it's possible to fit them on record, or I am wrong? Yuri From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Sun Sep 22 11:29:51 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 15:29:51 UT Subject: OTHER: Amon Duul 2/Porcupine Tree Message-ID: Damn fine show last night! P-Tree were better than I remember them the last time I saw them (at HW last year) - partly because the sound quality in the Empire was very good indeed. They're headlining at the Astoria 2 on Nov 3rd, and I might well go on the strength of this performance. The new album's out on the 30th Sept, they said, btw. Amon Duul 2 were also on fine form - I'd say this show was better than the Astoria show in April. Renate in particular was in great voice, and Lothar was clearly having the time of his life, although Chris was a bit subdued. Special guest for the encore was Arthur Brown! What a dude! They had advance copies of Live in Tokyo on sale, so I got mine signed by Renate. Not sure when it'll be in the shops, but it can't be long. Fine version of "Dry Your Ears". - Andy ObCDs: well, obviously, Amon Duul 2:_Live in Tokyo_, but also Shooglenifty: _Live at Selwyn Hall, Box_. From iscladoc at IDIR.NET Sun Sep 22 11:32:45 1996 From: iscladoc at IDIR.NET (Allan T Grohe Jr) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 10:32:45 -0500 Subject: HW: Born To Go In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, Mike Wright wrote: > > Just a short note to let you know that the excellent > > "BORN TO GO" book will be out of print by the end of 1996. > > ***************************************************************** > > I really can't recommend this book highly enough. > > Makes an excellent companion to Kris Tait's "Do Not Panic" > > without actually duplicating it. > > Any comments from those of you who already have it? > > I have recently acquired this volume, and would also heartily recommend > it, a well written booklet with lots of new info (well new to me) and a > good style, so rush out and buy this before it is too late. What's the publisher info on this one? Allan. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allan T. Grohe, Jr. Nomad of the Time Streams. Poet. iscladoc at idir.net RPG Writer/Reviewer. Outer God. Visit the Dreaming City: http://www.rpg.net/ehp/imrryr.html "Farewell, friend. I was a thousand times more evil than thou." - Michael Moorcock, _Stormbringer_ From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Sun Sep 22 11:47:35 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 11:47:35 -0400 Subject: HW: Born To Go In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, Mike Wright wrote: > On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Jeremy Dacombe wrote: > > Just a short note to let you know that the excellent > > "BORN TO GO" book will be out of print by the end of 1996. > > ***************************************************************** > > I really can't recommend this book highly enough. > > Makes an excellent companion to Kris Tait's "Do Not Panic" > > without actually duplicating it. > > Any comments from those of you who already have it? > > I have recently acquired this volume, and would also heartily recommend > it, a well written booklet with lots of new info (well new to me) and a > good style, so rush out and buy this before it is too late. > > Mike w > > p.s. I do not work for Gavin or anyone connected with this fine > enterprise, but merely am a well satisfied customer (no honestly this > time it is true) I'll second (third?) that. This book is great. Its style is very engaging, and I found it impossible to put down, reading it straight through over two or three nights. My only "complaint" is that it ended too soon. I'd love to see this level of quality extended to a bio of Hawkwind that covers their history up to the present day! Another very satisfied customer, Paul. obCD: Hawkwind, _Space Ritual_ (remastered) e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Sun Sep 22 12:17:06 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 12:17:06 -0400 Subject: Listing subscribers In-Reply-To: <3242A204.3676@mic.dundee.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Sep 1996, Andy Cobley wrote: > I hate to say this but i think there is a way to get the list members > I'm just testing it now ! Just to follow up on Andy's posting, it seems that BOC-L *does* allow the standard LISTSERV "REVIEW" command (some LISTSERV mailing lists disable this, except for the moderator, for default member privacy). So, to get a list of the subscribers (names and e-mail addresses), send this command in the body of a mail message sent to LISTSERV at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU: REVIEW BOC-L To hide your membership from this listing, send this command in the body of a mail message sent to LISTSERV at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU: SET BOC-L CONCEAL Cheers, Paul. obCD: Hawkwind, _Hall of the Mountain Grill_ (remastered) e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Sun Sep 22 14:32:34 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 14:32:34 -0400 Subject: RealAudio Message-ID: Jerry asks: >Where can I get RealAudio? How's the delay and quality? You can download realaudio from http://www.realaudio.com/. The quality reminds me of listening to radio luxembourg (208 AM) in the early seventies. But IMO, it is listenable and it just blows my mind that you can listen to radio stations over the internet. BTW check out virgin radio: http://timecast1.timecast.com/CGI-bin/nph-gimmeframes.cgi?virgin Martyn From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Sun Sep 22 14:49:09 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 14:49:09 -0400 Subject: OFF: drugs Message-ID: Max writes: > Well, I certainly would love to get a hold of some of those. It may be >similar to those herbal ecstacy things that you can order, coz there one I always thought that magic mushrooms referred to liberty cap mushrooms (Psilocybe semilanceolata) which contain psilocybin. These have a distincive "nipple" morphology and can be found in many grassy fields in England in the late summer Martyn From rauli.poikela at MBNET.FI Sun Sep 22 17:05:00 1996 From: rauli.poikela at MBNET.FI (Rauli Poikela) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 23:05:00 +0200 Subject: Nik Turner's sphinx : Message-ID: Jon Browne wrote: > He did re-make the album recently, though. Out on Cleopatra. I havn't > heard that yet. Anyone out there care to compare? Bop poet style> I haven't heard the original, but I like the re-recording a lot, and count it in top 5 of my all HW & related recordings. Great stuff. I'd really like to hear Xitintoday also, but it appears to be very difficult to get.. ___ Blue Wave/386 v2.30 [NR] From stayer at PI.NET Mon Sep 23 00:45:17 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 21:45:17 PDT Subject: OFF: drugs Message-ID: Jerry wrote: >> selling magic mushrooms. the ones with the hallucinating drug in >> it. The government wants to have them banned. >> It's a product of nature, so they will have lots of problems declaring it >> illegal. Mark Wilcox said: >Well, I certainly would love to get a hold of some of those. It may be >similar to those herbal ecstacy things that you can order, coz there one >product called magic mushrooms, which are a mixture of various hard to >get mushies. Don't know wether you get the same kind of full on >psychoactive experience, though, judging by the herbal e's. I think herbal xtc has some mushroom ingredients, but I think it's not the same. Why call something herbal xtc when you have magic mushrooms? Anyway, the magic mushrooms are fully natural. They even sell books that say where you can get them from Mother Nature herself. Then they need to be dehydrated (correct English word? leave it to dry, I mean). I haven't had herbal e's, so I can't tell. I think I'll order my bro to make some mushroom tea next week. He says it's almost hallucination. Jerry From skarsol at EROLS.COM Sun Sep 22 14:38:26 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 18:38:26 +0000 Subject: OFF: drugs Message-ID: Jerry wrote: > > > writes > >>But...the question must > >>come up, is the brain the mind? (THIS IS an actual question) > > Jon Browne replies: > >Try alt.out.of.body.experience for the answer. > > Make me think of a trial going on here in Holland. There's a number of shops > selling magic mushrooms. You know, the ones with the hallucinating drug in > it. The government wants to have them banned. when my wife and i were in amsterdam,we bought some of these. i assumed they were going to be fake or low grade at best.they were fantastic.i am saddened that they are trying to ban them.i thot holland was the last bastion of freedom on the planet. guess not. > It's a product of nature, so they will have lots of problems declaring it > illegal. (Hemp plants are easier to spot and need lots more attention to be > really effective.) i really could care less about the legality of the things i do.the law often has nothing to do with what is right and wrong,so i only obey the ones that correspond to my philosophies.they can outlaw anything they wish,but they will never stop it. > Haven't tried it yet, but my bro has got some. be careful,dont over do it. if it is yer first time,do it in a safe environment, and make sure you got plenty of time on yer hands.when they first kick in,the paranoia will be near overwhelming,but it gets better. bear in mind,i am not suggesting you do this.while i think people have the right to decide their own actions,i would NEVER advise someone to start taking a drug. it really is better not to do drugs.it sounds hypocritical,but my life situation is such,that the negatives do not affect me much- i.e. i dont require most of my brain cells to get thru it. i could go on for days on this subject,but i think i'll stop now,and wait for the flames. > Jerry 'cannabis sativa hollandia' rj From skarsol at EROLS.COM Sun Sep 22 14:41:39 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 18:41:39 +0000 Subject: OFF: drugs Message-ID: Max Wilcox wrote: > > Jerry wrote: > > > > > writes > > >>But...the question must > > >>come up, is the brain the mind? (THIS IS an actual question) > > > > Jon Browne replies: > > >Try alt.out.of.body.experience for the answer. > > > > Make me think of a trial going on here in Holland. There's a number of shops > > selling magic mushrooms. You know, the ones with the hallucinating drug in > > it. The government wants to have them banned. > > > > It's a product of nature, so they will have lots of problems declaring it > > illegal. (Hemp plants are easier to spot and need lots more attention to be > > really effective.) > > > > Haven't tried it yet, but my bro has got some. > > > > Jerry 'cannabis sativa hollandia' > Well, I certainly would love to get a hold of some of those. It may be > similar to those herbal ecstacy things that you can order, coz there one > product called magic mushrooms, which are a mixture of various hard to > get mushies. Don't know wether you get the same kind of full on > psychoactive experience, though, judging by the herbal e's. > -Max Wilcox these are not fakes,these are the real deal.to hell with that herbal crap.ive tried it and its crap.might as well try to get high on antihistamine. rj From skarsol at EROLS.COM Sun Sep 22 14:53:11 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 18:53:11 +0000 Subject: OFF: drugs Message-ID: Jerry wrote: > I think herbal xtc has some mushroom ingredients, but I think it's not the > same. Why call something herbal xtc when you have magic mushrooms? > Anyway, the magic mushrooms are fully natural. They even sell books that say > where you can get them from Mother Nature herself. > Then they need to be dehydrated (correct English word? leave it to dry, I > mean). > > I haven't had herbal e's, so I can't tell. I think I'll order my bro to make > some mushroom tea next week. He says it's almost hallucination. > > Jerry these mushrooms are infact better if you dont dehydrate them.i saw them for sale there in both forms.dont waste yer time trying to smoke them either.tea works well. and as for hallucinating,you only see distortions of what is there,you will not see fairies and pixies.its alot like lsd, without the cramps and jangly feeling. hallucinations (pink elephants),are caused by a lack of sanity,not drugs. these are educated oppinions,based on EXTENSIVE personal experience. rj p.s. i rarely bother with acid anymore.i had my first "badtrip" after using the shit for 8 years or so.it seems,in my case anyway,that once this happens,it just happens more and more often.the feeling was damned near too awful to describe. (i did howver,drop cid at june's ipswitch hw gig.that was cool,until i had to meet alan davies family,when all i could do was grin like an idiot,and nod.} From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Mon Sep 23 01:27:24 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Le Monsieur) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 00:27:24 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: drugs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, Jerry wrote: > It's a product of nature [shrooms], so they will have lots of problems > declaring it illegal. Yeah, here in Texas we're having a related problem (tho not as publicized). I don't know if this is worldwide knowledge or not, but here in this, the Lone Star State, (and probably elsewhere) we have something called "locoweed". I think it's something like hemp, only not as strong. The government would love to make the stuff illegal, but that's darn near impossible because of one little problem: Locoweed is *everywhere*. It's really difficult to keep people from using something that grows alongside *every* rural highway in the State. It would be like trying to ban ants from breeding. Luckily, most people (of those to whom I've spoken, anyway) don't really know anything about it. Damon Capehart | "As their numbers dwindled from 70 to 8, the aka Le Monsieur | dwarves began to suspect Hungry..." dcapehar at utdallas.edu | From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Mon Sep 23 01:49:39 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Le Monsieur) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 00:49:39 -0500 Subject: HW: SA & CYM Message-ID: So, am I the first BOC-L'er to have a copy each of Choose Your Masques and Sonic Attack? I got it at 9:15pm CDT Saturday from Mr.Coleman. He's selling them for either $12 or $13 American (+ shipping, of course). Well, lessee... Until I bought these, I hadn't heard anything at all from either of these albums, unless you include live versions on Out & Intake. I'm still trying to decide which version of each I like better. One thing for sure, though: Mike Moorcock should *NEVER* be allowed to sing again, at least not like he 'sang' "Coded Languages". One li'l mess up on the CYM, though: "Arrival In Utopia" and "Utopia" are, as most of you know, two distinct tracks. However, they are indexed together as track 3, with a total length of 8:47. Also, I think something's wrong with the "full version" of Silver Machine included as a bonus track. The song fades in just like the "shorter", 4:23 version, but fades out just before it hits 3:00. At 3:00, Silver Machine *fades back in* exactly like the beginning of both versions. Then I realized, after investigating further, that this second "half" of the full version of Silver Machine is none other than the shorter album version. The "full version" clocks in at 7:43, in case you're wondering. Damon Capehart | "As their numbers dwindled from 70 to 8, the aka Le Monsieur | dwarves began to suspect Hungry..." dcapehar at utdallas.edu | From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Mon Sep 23 01:30:03 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Le Monsieur) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 00:30:03 -0500 Subject: Nik Turner's sphinx : Xitintoday In-Reply-To: <32448FB3.4BBE@student.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: The remake is called _Sphinx_, and I have it. I personally don't like it as much as the rest of Nik's Cleo stuff. I'd love to give a comparison between _Sphinx_ and _Xitintoday_, but I haven't heard the original yet. Damon Capehart | "As their numbers dwindled from 70 to 8, the aka Le Monsieur | dwarves began to suspect Hungry..." dcapehar at utdallas.edu | From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Sep 23 04:18:34 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:18:34 +0100 Subject: OFF: drugs In-Reply-To: <9609221849.AA21127@borg.med.ecu.edu> Message-ID: In message <9609221849.AA21127 at borg.med.ecu.edu>, Martyn White writes >These have a distincive "nipple" morphology and can be found in >many grassy fields in England in the late summer > >Martyn About now, in fact. Hmmm ...although I reckon Wales is better. Hay Bluff, just outside Hay-on-Wye. Southern-most tip of the Black Mountains, you can pick by the sack. In fact, you can live up there from now till November on nothing but fungi and rain-water and never meet another soul. Or so I'm told. And that was a few years ago too. Not that I would have anything to do with such outrageous behavior. Absolutely not. No -- John Smith From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Sep 23 04:12:02 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:12:02 +0100 Subject: Nik Turner's sphinx : In-Reply-To: <8C8D569.0064014A9D.uuout@mbnet.fi> Message-ID: In message <8C8D569.0064014A9D.uuout at mbnet.fi>, Rauli Poikela writes > > He did re-make the album recently, though. Out on Cleopatra. I havn't > > heard that yet. Anyone out there care to compare? > Bop poet style> > > I haven't heard the original, but I like the re-recording a lot, and > count it in top 5 of my all HW & related recordings. Great stuff. > I'd really like to hear Xitintoday also, but it appears to be very > difficult to get.. > It's a toughie alright. Has _anyone_ heard both versions? -- Jon Browne From mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK Mon Sep 23 09:35:07 1996 From: mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK (Mike Parkington) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:35:07 +-100 Subject: HW: Born To Go Message-ID: Ditto. Mike P ---------- From: Mike Wright[SMTP:M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK] Sent: Sunday, September 22, 1996 03:00 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: HW: Born To Go An (almost) unprompted testimonial On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Jeremy Dacombe wrote: > Just a short note to let you know that the excellent > "BORN TO GO" book will be out of print by the end of 1996. > ***************************************************************** > I really can't recommend this book highly enough. > Makes an excellent companion to Kris Tait's "Do Not Panic" > without actually duplicating it. > Any comments from those of you who already have it? I have recently acquired this volume, and would also heartily recommend it, a well written booklet with lots of new info (well new to me) and a good style, so rush out and buy this before it is too late. Mike w p.s. 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Out on Cleopatra. I havn't >> > heard that yet. Anyone out there care to compare? > > Bop poet style> >> >> I haven't heard the original, but I like the re-recording a lot, and >> count it in top 5 of my all HW & related recordings. Great stuff. >> I'd really like to hear Xitintoday also, but it appears to be very >> difficult to get.. >> >It's a toughie alright. Has _anyone_ heard both versions? yup. the cleopatra version is a pressurehead (punkadelic) remake of the charisma original - very different, because the original was [mostly] a peaceful flute experience made together with friends i.e from the flying teapot orchestra Gong. the remake has more "flesh" in the music. listen to the extra track (the last looong one) and you get an idea in which direction the original points at. the booklet is a chapther for itself - remembering the "ejected from space ship hawkwind" section... >Jon Browne \\joe From etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE Mon Sep 23 10:12:48 1996 From: etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE (Rob) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 10:12:48 BST Subject: OFF: drugs Message-ID: > >These have a distincive "nipple" morphology and can be found in > >many grassy fields in England in the late summer > > > >Martyn > About now, in fact. Hmmm ...although I reckon Wales is better. Hay > Bluff, just outside Hay-on-Wye. Southern-most tip of the Black > Mountains, you can pick by the sack. In fact, you can live up there from > now till November on nothing but fungi and rain-water and never meet > another soul. Or so I'm told. And that was a few years ago too. Not that > I would have anything to do with such outrageous behavior. Absolutely > not. No > -- > John Smith > I have to agree there, some friends and I once rented an old farmhouse just over the Welsh border near Hereford where the 'shrooms grew in the field opposite the front door. I remember the first day involved a breakfast of mushroom tea, mushroom omelette and mushroom sandwhiches we then proceded to laugh at the wallpaper for two hours. bye - Rob From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 23 11:56:22 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:56:22 BST Subject: Nik Turner's sphinx : Xitintoday In-Reply-To: nico's message of Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:39:14 +0000 Message-ID: nico writes: > I'm searching for a nick turner "solo" album: > Nik Turner's sphinx : Xitintoday, 1978 (charisma) > Is there someone who can tell me where I can find it > thanks!!! > nico (npuchot at pasteur.fr) It turns up in Record Collector every few months. Last price I saw for the original album plus booklet was 40 Pounds. FoFP From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Mon Sep 23 06:09:23 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 21:09:23 +1100 Subject: HW: SA & CYM Message-ID: On 23 Sep 96 at 0:49, Le Monsieur wrote: > One thing for sure, though: Mike Moorcock should *NEVER* be > allowed to sing again, at least not like he 'sang' "Coded > Languages". C'mon ... that's the best track on the album ;^) Sonique -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Mon Sep 23 06:09:23 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 21:09:23 +1100 Subject: Live 1974 Tracks on the Web Message-ID: On 22 Sep 96 at 12:07, Max Wilcox wrote: > Yeh! Australian tour! AUSTRALIAN TOUR! AUSTRALIAN TOUR! Geeze, the only > fantastic band I've seen of note is Floyd, but I guess that makes up it > a little... No it doesn't ..... I decided (for some absolutely ridiculous reason or other) not to go to that one ..... Sonique -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Mon Sep 23 07:29:31 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 11:29:31 UT Subject: Nik Turner's sphinx : Message-ID: Well, IMO of course, the original is genius godhead stuff the like of which we are rarely privileged to witness, and the remake is (slightly surprisingly) not a travesty, but actually quite good in its own right. If you wonder why the tempo is unvarying, though, I believe I'm right in saying this is the one where Nik taped the vocal parts to a metronome, and then sent the tapes to Creed & Co (whom he'd not actually met at that time). - Andy From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Sep 23 07:37:19 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 12:37:19 +0100 Subject: Nik Turner's sphinx : Xitintoday In-Reply-To: <9609231156.aa02571@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> Message-ID: In message <9609231156.aa02571 at uk.ac.ed.tattoo>, M Holmes writes >It turns up in Record Collector every few months. Last price I saw for >the original album plus booklet was 40 Pounds. > >FoFP At that price, sounds like a suitable candidate for a Dojo re-issue. -- Jon Browne From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Mon Sep 23 08:12:00 1996 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:12:00 +0100 Subject: Nik Turner's sphinx : Xitintoday In-Reply-To: Jon Browne's mail of Mon, 23 Sep 96 12:37 +0100 Message-ID: > >It turns up in Record Collector every few months. Last price I saw for > >the original album plus booklet was 40 Pounds. > > > >FoFP > > At that price, sounds like a suitable candidate for a Dojo re-issue. > -- > Jon Browne I'd buy it on CD, especially if it came with the original booklet (scaled down to fit the box, of course). This is a really good album. Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Mon Sep 23 09:27:15 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 09:27:15 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Sightings Message-ID: Deb queries: >Anyone else seen 'em anywhere? There were copies in Tower Records in the Boston area (we have 3 - in Boston, Cambridge, and Burlington MA) of both Eponymous and Trepanation (usually only 1 copy of each - the 2 at the Burlington store have since sold). I've seen Eponymous at a nearby Lechmere (in Woburn, MA), and MikMango had told me that tBS CDs can be found in Newbury Comics (although I haven't seen them in my nearby Burlington store). All additional copies that were previously available from ME have sold out. John From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Mon Sep 23 11:04:00 1996 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:04:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Abducted ! In-Reply-To: Carl E. Anderson's mail of Tue, 17 Sep 96 18:48 +0100 Message-ID: > > The sleeve notes for "abducted" give the credits to "Brock/Tree" but to me > > those vocals sound a lot like Calvert. Is Ron Tree really responsible for > > those vocals ? > > Indeed he is. Amazing is it not. He manages a fair Calvert > impression at those times when he's not screwing something up horribly, > (though in truth, we must lay a certain amount of blame on the whole > band for travesties like "Beam Me Up" ;) Far from being a travesty, that track is a highlight of the album for me. Musically and vocally, it's one of the most varied and interesting tracks on the album. I was disappointed that they didn't play it live; I would have liked to bounce around to: "I'm... being... beamed... UP!". Someone wrote that the lyrics were every adolescent's dream. But what makes being "beamed up" any less sensible that being "abducted"? Are the lyrics to "Sputnik Stan" -- or even "Silver Machine" or "Master Of The Universe" -- that mature and sensible? I take them all with a pinch of salt, and enjoy them immensely! Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Mon Sep 23 11:05:00 1996 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:05:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Love in Space Video In-Reply-To: David Jones' mail of Thu, 19 Sep 96 08:32 +0100 Message-ID: > I have been told that last Saturdays Daily Telegraph had a short review of > the video from the love in space tour so it should be out soon - anybody > seen it yet ? The Daily Telegraph is available on the web. Do they have back issues there as well? (I don't have a web browser to check at the moment). Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Mon Sep 23 11:11:00 1996 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:11:00 +0100 Subject: HW: SA & CYM In-Reply-To: Le Monsieur's mail of Mon, 23 Sep 96 00:49 -0500 Message-ID: > One li'l mess up on the CYM, though: "Arrival In Utopia" and "Utopia" > are, as most of you know, two distinct tracks. However, they are indexed > together as track 3, with a total length of 8:47. Oh great. So if you want to program your player with the best track on the CD, you also get one of the worst wastes of space that Hawkwind have ever done. Whoop Ee Do. Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. From stayer at PI.NET Mon Sep 23 01:44:44 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 22:44:44 PDT Subject: OFF: drugs Message-ID: Max writes: >>Well, I certainly would love to get a hold of some of those. It may be >>similar to those herbal ecstacy things that you can order, coz there one Martyn says: >I always thought that magic mushrooms referred to liberty >cap mushrooms (Psilocybe semilanceolata) which contain psilocybin. >These have a distincive "nipple" morphology and can be found in >many grassy fields in England in the late summer That's the one: psilocybin. And yes, it's completely natural. The only preperation it needs is the process of letting it dry. You can never prohibit the sale of fresh mushrooms, so they're trying to stop the sale of prep mushies. No big deal, you buy fresh ones and have leave them to dry for a couple of days. Jerry From mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK Mon Sep 23 16:40:22 1996 From: mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK (Mike Parkington) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:40:22 +-100 Subject: HW: SA & CYM Message-ID: OK then Dave, spill those beans, which is the goodie and which the baddie. IYHO of course. Yours. Mike Nearlyswann ---------- From: Dave Berry[SMTP:daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK] Sent: Monday, September 23, 1996 04:11 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: HW: SA & CYM > One li'l mess up on the CYM, though: "Arrival In Utopia" and "Utopia" > are, as most of you know, two distinct tracks. However, they are indexed > together as track 3, with a total length of 8:47. Oh great. So if you want to program your player with the best track on the CD, you also get one of the worst wastes of space that Hawkwind have ever done. Whoop Ee Do. 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VW%;9:F[`1X`/0`!````!0```%)% (.B `````)6@` ` end From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 23 16:46:23 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:46:23 BST Subject: HW: Born To Go book In-Reply-To: Allan T Grohe Jr's message of Sun, 22 Sep 1996 10:32:45 -0500 Message-ID: Allan T Grohe Jr writes: > On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, Mike Wright wrote: > > > > Just a short note to let you know that the excellent > > > "BORN TO GO" book will be out of print by the end of 1996. > > > ***************************************************************** > > > I really can't recommend this book highly enough. > > > Makes an excellent companion to Kris Tait's "Do Not Panic" > > > without actually duplicating it. > > > Any comments from those of you who already have it? > > > > I have recently acquired this volume, and would also heartily recommend > > it, a well written booklet with lots of new info (well new to me) and a > > good style, so rush out and buy this before it is too late. > > What's the publisher info on this one? ============================================================ Here's the original info I was given. Just to confirm that publication will cease at Christmas so get one now while you can. ======================================================== I've been given permission to post the following promo for a Hawkwind history book that I was recently involved in typing up. Dave Brock, I understand, already has a copy and Brian Tawn has seen and approved it - so it comes with a good pedigree! ********************************* STOP PRESS ..... STOP PRESS .... STOP PRESS .... STOP PRESS.... B O R N T O G O HAWKWIND IN THE SEVENTIES - written by David Watson "Born To Go" is the story of early Hawkwind (1969 - 1979), written by a fan for fans. This is an individually numbered, limited edition, A5 book, 104 pages of text, full colour cover. A detailed history of the original Hawkwind, down to the breakup in 1978 (with post-script); set against the times and the changing music environment. Timed to coincide with the band's 25th Anniversary. Available from May 1, 1995. MAIL ORDER ONLY FROM THE ADDRESS BELOW: Gavin Wilson 3 Quarry Street Larkhall Lanarkshire Scotland, UK ML9 2NJ Allow 28 days delivery PRICES: UK - 5.00 pounds sterling + 50p post and packing Cheques/PO payable to Gavin Wilson Europe - 5.00 pounds sterling + 1.00 pound post and packing (Airmail) Rest of the World - 5.00 pounds sterling + 1.75 pounds post and packing (Airmail) IMO or UK Sterling only Please note if you are sending cash please conceal and wrap well. ******************************* And, yes, I do know the folk involved in this and can reassure you that Dave has been involved with writing this history for years now - simply because of his deep interest in the band and enjoyment of their music. However I would be grateful if you could please contact Gavin Wilson (he's doing the mailing out of stuff) directly if at all possible, rather than going through me. Thanks! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK Mon Sep 23 11:37:59 1996 From: EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK (Phil - Can't we go back to pen and paper? - Wane) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:37:59 +0100 Subject: RealAudio Message-ID: I was interested to read the letters from Paul and Martyn re Realaudio. As far as I know you can still download the "listening" software for free but you do indeed have to pay for the "broadcast" software. As for the copyright infringement of broadcasting music, I'm not sure how that's dealt with by the likes of the Performing Rights Society. Maybe you have to pay broadcast fees as do all radio and TV stations. BUT for a newsgroup a clever band would waive the fees, on maybe a limited selection of tracks, because the publicity might remind certain people that they still exist and encourage them to put their hands into their pockets and buy CD's etc. Phil p.s. Before anyone gets offended I really like the bands discussed in this group but let's be honest, there's a lot of people out there think that Hawkwind fell off their perch a long time ago! "Oh what a treacherous web we weave..." Philip Wane The Nottingham Trent University Nottingham England From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 23 17:08:37 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 17:08:37 BST Subject: Vinyl remasters? In-Reply-To: Hawkwind's message of Fri, 20 Sep 1996 11:45:51 -0500 Message-ID: Hawkwind writes: > request for feedback as to whether or not fans would like to see the UA > remasterd series released on vinyl. > I'm not sure there would be much point in this would there? I accept that vinyl may carry a much wider sound spectrum/wavelength (?) but the great bonus of the remasters is their clarity. This may indeed come through on vinyl but I would be very suprised if it was as good as the CDs or, even if it was, whether enough folk would have the quality of hi-fi sufficient to listen to it. It would be sad indeed if all that beautiful remastering were to be wasted on a muffled sounding vinyl that in fact sounded not much better than the original! I sorta wonder if they'd be better taking the original issue CDs off the market completely (thus immediately turning them into rare collectors items which Hawkwind Marketing Co. Inc. could stock exclusively) and doing any further reissues of those albums using the digital remasters only. Oh - I guess if vinyl versions were produced I'd buy them (couldn't not do so could I....) but I wouldn't have thought it worth doing except to try and corner the Kollectors' market. Are there really enough Kollectors to make it worthwhile financially? Which reminds me - I saw a copy of It Is The Biz of the Future etc... in a CD package labelled "Digitally Remastered With Faithfully Copied Artwork" or something similar. Does anyone know if it *is* any better! It certainly didn't look any different - but then clearly it's not intended to... sigh. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 23 17:34:51 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 17:34:51 BST Subject: OFF: Re: RealAudio In-Reply-To: Phil - Can't we go back to pen and paper? - Wane's message of Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:37:59 +0100 Message-ID: Phil - Can't we go back to pen and paper? - Wane writes: > Before anyone gets offended I really like the bands discussed in this group but > let's be honest, there's a lot of people out there think that Hawkwind fell off > their perch a long time ago! and when was the last time they went to see Hawkwind live.....?! > "Oh what a treacherous web we weave..." is't not a "tangled web"? yours, in pedantic deceit, jill 8-) ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK Mon Sep 23 12:38:53 1996 From: EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK (Phil - Can't we go back to pen and paper? - Wane) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 17:38:53 +0100 Subject: OFF Re: Spam spam spam wonderful spam Message-ID: exit From khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU Mon Sep 23 12:59:28 1996 From: khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Keith A Henderson) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 12:59:28 -0400 Subject: HW: First HW member in R'n'R HoF In-Reply-To: <9609231646.aa20658@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> from "J Strobridge" at Sep 23, 96 04:46:23 pm Message-ID: Hi Folks.... I was watching the local news last night here in Columbus, and they had a short public interest story about two new exhibits at the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland, OH. One was dedicated to Heavy Metal, and when they went to the pre-taped video portion of the segment, the first thing I saw was a Rickenbacker bass with gothic lettering along the top. I immediately recognized it as being the Lemster's, and in fact they panned back and there was a dummy or wax replica of Lemmy holding said bass. I couldn't see too well, but the details of his face looked a bit funny, esp. his 'handlebar' beard & moustache...I'd bet the Bass Assassin No. 1 himself would've laughed at the absurdity of it all. I tell you all this just for general interest....personally, I find the entire concept of a Hall of Fame for rock music more than a little pathetic. Just like the Grammy awards (funny that Motorhead was once nominated, for 1916 I think). I would never waste the time, money, and effort to visit the place even though it's right up the road in my old hometown. Not until Dave Brock is voted in, at least. :) I should note that even though they have these exhibits (on things like Heavy Metal), it doesn't mean any of these artists will ever officially 'get in' to the HoF. Black Sabbath has been eligible for two years now, and apparently they're not getting in. Deep Purple I don't think is in either. I actually hope it stays that way... Keith H. (FAA) Before I claim that Lemmy is *really* the first HW member to appear in the R'n'R HoF, maybe I should ask if Ginger Baker is in there as a member of Cream. From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 23 18:02:30 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 18:02:30 BST Subject: Vinyl remasters? In-Reply-To: J Strobridge's message of Mon, 23 Sep 1996 17:08:37 BST Message-ID: Hawkwind writes: > request for feedback as to whether or not fans would like to see the UA > remastered series released on vinyl. Personally no. I'd probably still listen to the CD's for convenience and it'd just be more stuff to buy that I have multiple copies of already. If there's resource available to produce some stuff then I'd like to see: * The better tracks from the Weird Tapes put onto CD (particularly a longer version of "Where Are They Now?") * An album consisting of the other tracks from the Live '79 tour. Particularly New Jerusalem, PXR5, and a full version of Silver Machine. * Other track versions from 7" singles which haven't made it to CD: Time Of Angels of Death D-Rider Magnu Master of the Universe Mirror of Illusion Needle Gun Orgone Accumulator PXR5 Psi Power Seven By Seven (1983 7") Who's Gonna Win the War? (both 7" versons) Zones These would make for a second "Stasis" CD release. * Roadhawks on CD. FoFP From EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK Mon Sep 23 12:57:09 1996 From: EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK (Phil - Can't we go back to pen and paper? - Wane) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 17:57:09 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: RealAudio Message-ID: You're right, it should be tangled. I seem to remember discussing treachory (Have I spelt that right?) with someone at work. Obviously got the old synapses tangled when last typing my signature file up. Glad you pointed it out to me, no one here (my place of work has). They're either too polite (doubt it!), too ignorant (good possibility) or simply know that I get confused a lot (VERY good possibility). I shal:l correct it shortly. In fact ?I was planning to change it something the group should be familiar with... Phil :) p.s. The point you made about the last time people went to see them - couldn't agree more but try telling people that! From EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK Mon Sep 23 13:09:58 1996 From: EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK (Phil - Can't we go back to pen and paper? - Wane) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 18:09:58 +0100 Subject: HW: SA & CYM Message-ID: With reference to Mike Moorcocks singing, the man can write but should really stick to singing in his bathroom (often a nice resonance in there) or when he's had a few beers with friends like the rest of us. I seem to recall Mike's singing on tracks like the Entrophy Tango wasn't too hot. Phil p.s. Hope that was Mike on that track or I've just insulted two people! "Oh what a treacherous web we weave..." Philip Wane The Nottingham Trent University Nottingham England From lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU Mon Sep 23 13:43:59 1996 From: lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU (dave cohen) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:43:59 -0400 Subject: HW: SA & CYM In-Reply-To: <96092318095808@newvax.ntu.ac.uk> from "Phil - Can't we go back to pen and paper? - Wane" at Sep 23, 96 06:09:58 pm Message-ID: > > With reference to Mike Moorcocks singing, the man can write but should really > stick to singing in his bathroom (often a nice resonance in there) or when he's > had a few beers with friends like the rest of us. I seem to recall Mike's > singing on tracks like the Entrophy Tango wasn't too hot. > Phil > p.s. > Hope that was Mike on that track or I've just insulted two people! > "Oh what a treacherous web we weave..." > Philip Wane if it was the "tale of the entropy tango" from hawkfan15 then you've just insulted brian tawn as well, cuz i believe he did the vocals for that. i don't think any Entropy Tango stuff with MM vocals got past the demo stage... (allan grohe might correct me on this one) i have heard some hawkfans say that they took the phrase "do not panic" literally when they say moorcock come on stage i dunno tho, dodgem dude and another quiet day in auschwitz are still pretty good... --dave From stephen at SPATIAL.UNISYS.COM Mon Sep 23 13:53:40 1996 From: stephen at SPATIAL.UNISYS.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 13:53:40 -0400 Subject: HW: First HW member in R'n'R HoF Message-ID: Keith says: Before I claim that Lemmy is *really* the first HW member to appear in the R'n'R HoF, maybe I should ask if Ginger Baker is in there as a member of Cream. And you would of course be correct, Eric C, Jack Bruce & Ginger played together for the first time in 25 ish years on their induction, no word on whether they played anything off Levitation however 8-) Actually probably thay can't induct Hawkwind, as they'd never get all of the (ex-)members on stage at one time for the awards ceremony...... Cheer,s Steve L. From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Sep 23 13:02:38 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 18:02:38 +0100 Subject: Vinyl remasters? In-Reply-To: <9609231708.aa03649@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> Message-ID: In message <9609231708.aa03649 at uk.ac.ed.tattoo>, J Strobridge writes >Which reminds me - I saw a copy of It Is The Biz of the Future etc... in >a CD package labelled "Digitally Remastered With Faithfully Copied Artwork" >or something similar. Does anyone know if it *is* any better! It >certainly didn't look any different - but then clearly it's not intended >to... > >sigh. > >jill I saw this too, and posted on it a month or two ago. It has to be a mistake. IITBOTFTBD was digitally mastered in the first place. -- Jon Browne From khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU Mon Sep 23 15:19:57 1996 From: khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Keith A Henderson) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:19:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: more R'n'R HoF In-Reply-To: <199609231659.MAA22994@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> from "Keith A Henderson" at Sep 23, 96 12:59:28 pm Message-ID: Hi again.... Well, I brought it up, and coincidentally, I just saw a thread about the Class of 1997 inductees to be. I think this proves my point about how incredibly pathetic this 'institution' is. It seems that the voters should really be 'institutionalized' in actuality. :) Here goes the stellar lineup of Rock and Roll Heroes... The Bee Gees Buffalo Springfield Crosby, Stills, and Nash The Jackson 5 Joni Mitchell Parliament-Funkadelic The Rascals I guess they have a 'quota' of seven or something. I figure either Can or Gong must've come in Eighth. :) I suppose Cap'n & Tennille and Sonny & Cher will follow next year. :) Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Aren't CS&N *already* in as members of the Byrds, BS, and the Hollies, respectively?? What's the point of putting them in again?? I bet Eric Clapton will be in like six times or something....you know, Yardbirds, Cream, Blind Faith, solo, unplugged, with beard, clean shaven, with 'Tommy', etc. etc. etc. And will CSNY also be up for election??? From stayer at PI.NET Mon Sep 23 20:34:15 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 17:34:15 PDT Subject: OFF: drugs Message-ID: RJ says on magic mushies: >i assumed they were >going to be fake or low grade at best.they were fantastic. Now why was that? :-) >i am saddened that they are >trying to ban them.i thot holland was the last bastion of freedom on the >planet. guess not. They know they cannot ban them - it's a natural product, found in the woods, parks and fields. The Last Bastion Of Freedom... I like that. There are people who are having problems with the current drugs policy. Some want to legalize more, others the other way around, mostly under pressure from foreign countries. It will take some more time for them to realize it's better to compromise / legalize than to ban / get people pissed. It will only be a matter of time before the people born late 60s / early 70s are in charge! :-))) >the law often has nothing to do with what is right and wrong,so i only >obey the ones that correspond to my philosophies. >they can outlaw anything they wish,but they will never stop it. Agree! >be careful,dont over do it. if it is yer first time,do it in a safe >environment, and make sure you got plenty of time on yer hands.when they >first kick in,the paranoia will be near overwhelming,but it gets better. Thanks! :-) >i could go on for days on this subject,but i think i'll stop now,and wait >for the flames. Not from me. Jerry From stayer at PI.NET Mon Sep 23 20:45:41 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 17:45:41 PDT Subject: OFF: Re: drugs Message-ID: Damon wrote: >in this, the Lone Star State, (and probably elsewhere) we have something >called "locoweed". >The government would love to make the stuff illegal, but that's darn near >impossible because of one little problem: Locoweed is *everywhere*. It's >really difficult to keep people from using something that grows alongside >*every* rural highway in the State. That is only a small problem. :-) >I think it's something like hemp, only not as strong. Not as strong? Why would someone smoke something to get high, but which is not as strong as hemp? OK, it's legal. >Luckily, most people (of those to whom I've spoken, >anyway) don't really know anything about it. Luckily? For 'them', 'Big Bro'. They're really trying to keep this silent? Why doesn't someone go to a news paper or something? It's not a big deal, but I would do anything to uncover things kept silent. I've had it with this 'better for the community' act. Jerry From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Mon Sep 23 17:03:41 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:03:41 EST Subject: OFF: more R'n'R HoF Message-ID: > > Hi again.... > > Well, I brought it up, and coincidentally, I just saw a thread about the Class > of 1997 inductees to be. I think this proves my point about how incredibly > pathetic this 'institution' is. It seems that the voters should really be > 'institutionalized' in actuality. :) > > Here goes the stellar lineup of Rock and Roll Heroes... > > The Bee Gees > Buffalo Springfield > Crosby, Stills, and Nash > The Jackson 5 > Joni Mitchell > Parliament-Funkadelic > The Rascals > > I guess they have a 'quota' of seven or something. I figure either Can or Gong > must've come in Eighth. :) > > I suppose Cap'n & Tennille and Sonny & Cher will follow next year. :) > > Keith H. (FAA) Whatever the merits [lack ] of Jackson 5 or [legitimate] P-funk, aren't they soul acts? Will they induct Johnny Cash next year 'cause he played at Lolapalooza? Joni Mitchell? Not sure what she plays, but it ain't rock... theo > P.S. Aren't CS&N *already* in as members of the Byrds, BS, and the Hollies, > respectively?? What's the point of putting them in again?? I bet Eric Clapton > will be in like six times or something....you know, Yardbirds, Cream, Blind > Faith, solo, unplugged, with beard, clean shaven, with 'Tommy', etc. etc. etc. > And will CSNY also be up for election??? > From jguizar at EPIX.NET Mon Sep 23 16:10:52 1996 From: jguizar at EPIX.NET (Jerry Guizar) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:10:52 -0400 Subject: Vinyl remasters? In-Reply-To: <9609231802.aa25363@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> Message-ID: In <9609231802.aa25363 at uk.ac.ed.tattoo>, on 09/23/96 at 06:02 PM, M Holmes said: >Hawkwind writes: >> request for feedback as to whether or not fans would like to see the UA >> remastered series released on vinyl. >Personally no. I'd probably still listen to the CD's for convenience and >it'd just be more stuff to buy that I have multiple copies of already. I don't buy much vinyl now, so unless there's no CD version it's unlikely I'd be jumping to spend my money on them. >If there's resource available to produce some stuff then I'd like to see: {list snipped} I'll second his list! That's something I would buy. Jerry ----------------------------------------------------------- jguizar at epix.net ----------------------------------------------------------- From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Mon Sep 23 16:25:52 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:25:52 -0400 Subject: HW: SA & CYM Message-ID: Lemme take a stab at it.... AiU is the goodie and Utopia is the stinker (unless, of course, you like hearing several minutes of a distorted Dave (I theeenk...) chanting "If you want to get into it you gotta get out of it" ad nauseaum. No gtr/synth/b/d/kybd/sax, nada, just a broken record effect. This takes the bloom off the rose for me on this one (just like CoH's resequencing) when it would have been so easy to put a little index mark in there...ah well, at least we got 'em out on CD at last.... Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com ---------- From: Mike Parkington[SMTP:mdp at tadpole.co.uk] Sent: Monday, September 23, 1996 11:40 AM To: 'BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List' Subject: RE: HW: SA & CYM OK then Dave, spill those beans, which is the goodie and which the baddie. IYHO of course. Yours. Mike Nearlyswann ---------- From: Dave Berry[SMTP:daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK] Sent: Monday, September 23, 1996 04:11 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: HW: SA & CYM > One li'l mess up on the CYM, though: "Arrival In Utopia" and "Utopia" > are, as most of you know, two distinct tracks. However, they are indexed > together as track 3, with a total length of 8:47. Oh great. So if you want to program your player with the best track on the CD, you also get one of the worst wastes of space that Hawkwind have ever done. Whoop Ee Do. Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2680 bytes Desc: not available URL: From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Mon Sep 23 16:35:49 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:35:49 -0400 Subject: Nik Turner's sphinx : Xitintoday Message-ID: ---------- From: M Holmes[SMTP:fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, September 23, 1996 7:56 AM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: Nik Turner's sphinx : Xitintoday nico writes: > I'm searching for a nick turner "solo" album: > Nik Turner's sphinx : Xitintoday, 1978 (charisma) > Is there someone who can tell me where I can find it > thanks!!! > nico (npuchot at pasteur.fr) It turns up in Record Collector every few months. Last price I saw for the original album plus booklet was 40 Pounds. FoFP Hmmm, wonder how much mine would fetch? Still in original shrink-wrap, w/t excellent-condition booklet, played maybe twice (at least once to record it on tape). That is, if I wanted to sell it... (I think I like the first version better, mostly due to being biased towards Tim Blake and Steve Hillage. It is a little lighter that the admittedly great SPHINX release, which I think works a bit better...) Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2010 bytes Desc: not available URL: From uriah at HERMITAGE.RU Mon Sep 23 16:47:04 1996 From: uriah at HERMITAGE.RU (Yuri Elik) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 00:47:04 +0400 Subject: HW: Born To Go Message-ID: Paul Mather wrote: > This book is great. Its style is very > engaging, and I found it impossible to put down, reading it straight > through over two or three nights. My only "complaint" is that it ended > too soon. I'd love to see this level of quality extended to a bio of > Hawkwind that covers their history up to the present day! Have you read a serie of articles about Hawkwind in the excellent Belgium psych magazine Crohinga Well? I have seen only 3 of them (the last ones - CW #12 has finished it), so I havent't seen the most intersting part (e.g. Brock, Turner, Calvert), but the ones I've read were very interesting anyway (they were about drummers, guitarists - but Brock himself - and keyboard players). Since many readers were asking about old numbers with the first parts, they were thinking about releasing it as a book also, and I think I'd like to get it. Yuri From egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US Mon Sep 23 16:57:23 1996 From: egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US (Ed Gallagher) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:57:23 -0500 Subject: OFF: more R'n'R HoF In-Reply-To: <199609231919.PAA13592@beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> from "Keith A Henderson" at Sep 23, 96 03:19:57 pm Message-ID: > > Hi again.... > > Well, I brought it up, and coincidentally, I just saw a thread about the Class > of 1997 inductees to be. I think this proves my point about how incredibly > pathetic this 'institution' is. It seems that the voters should really be > 'institutionalized' in actuality. :) > > Here goes the stellar lineup of Rock and Roll Heroes... > > The Bee Gees > Buffalo Springfield > Crosby, Stills, and Nash > The Jackson 5 > Joni Mitchell > Parliament-Funkadelic > The Rascals > > I guess they have a 'quota' of seven or something. I figure either Can or Gong > must've come in Eighth. :) > > I suppose Cap'n & Tennille and Sonny & Cher will follow next year. :) > > Keith H. (FAA) Donny and Marie! That Hawaiian Punch song drives me wild! -- "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein Edward Gallagher Internet egallagh at harper.cc.il.us Advanced Technology Specialist William Rainey Harper College Information Systems/User Service Pager (708) 962-4886 1200 W. Algonquin Rd. FAX (847) 925-6036 Palatine, IL 60067 Old Fashion Way (847) 925-6134 From Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM Mon Sep 23 16:51:35 1996 From: Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:51:35 -0500 Subject: HW: SA & CYM Message-ID: RE: Mike Moorcock > i have heard some hawkfans say that they took the phrase > "do not panic" literally when they say moorcock come on stage These fans obviously never saw Hawkwind at the Hammersmith Odeon or the Rainbow when the man appeared with the band!!!! He ALWAYS made the gig something special and having him recite some of his poetry to a background of HW synths is THE way to kick off a Hawkwind show. As far as I'm concerned (and I'm speaking with my 'huge Hawkwind fan' hat on), MM's vocals on 'Coded Languages' made that track and I never could get used to hearing Harvey do them live; I don't think he ever got the same feel as MM but he did suffice. As for MM's vocals, I think it could be a case of the 'Neil Young' senario; you either love it or hate it, but you would be foolish to deny that it has impact, passion and character. Yours, Star Rats From khiller at NICKEL.UCS.INDIANA.EDU Mon Sep 23 17:40:51 1996 From: khiller at NICKEL.UCS.INDIANA.EDU (Karl Hiller) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:40:51 -0500 Subject: HW: SA & CYM In-Reply-To: <01BBA96D.4E18D400@dynamic-11.async.pyramid.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, Craig A. Shipley wrote: > AiU is the goodie and Utopia is the stinker (unless, of course, you like = > hearing several minutes of a distorted Dave (I theeenk...) chanting "If = > you want to get into it you gotta get out of it" ad nauseaum. Fans of the Illuminati series may want to count the number of repetitions... Is it a coincidence, or a sinister plot? Karl From inhaler at U.WASHINGTON.EDU Mon Sep 23 18:50:57 1996 From: inhaler at U.WASHINGTON.EDU (P Worley) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:50:57 -0700 Subject: BOC: Re: Latest word on new album Message-ID: CAPTAIN Jay 'Freddy' Schatz writes: >word! > >"i want to eat soft tacos, not be a red eyed hangover fiend, i wished >jager'd picked another to be a drinking machine, JAGER-MEISTER!, it >kills, till the world will end, JAGERMEISTER! forcing our stomachs to >bend and break, JAGERMEISTER!!," etc....... > >ok, so i'm not michael moorcock You got it baby, Ned Lives!! -- Peter William Worley inhaler at u.washington.edu Phone: (206) 547-6164 From delacour at UNM.EDU Mon Sep 23 19:18:39 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 17:18:39 -0600 Subject: BOC: Imaginos In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Jerry; How have you been? Here are 2 quick additions for the BOCBase list of tour dates. For all on the list to know as well. 10/04 Springfield, VA Jaxx 10/05 Stone Mountain, GA Cook Off Later... Manuel & Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From jbrooks at CONNECTNET.COM Mon Sep 23 19:25:10 1996 From: jbrooks at CONNECTNET.COM (Joseph Brooks) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:25:10 -0700 Subject: OFF: Re: drugs Message-ID: At 12:27 AM 9/23/96 -0500, you wrote: >On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, Jerry wrote: >> It's a product of nature [shrooms], so they will have lots of problems >> declaring it illegal. >Yeah, here in Texas we're having a related problem (tho not as >publicized). I don't know if this is worldwide knowledge or not, but here >in this, the Lone Star State, (and probably elsewhere) we have something >called "locoweed". I think it's something like hemp, only not as strong. >The government would love to make the stuff illegal, but that's darn near >impossible because of one little problem: Locoweed is *everywhere*. It's >really difficult to keep people from using something that grows alongside >*every* rural highway in the State. It would be like trying to ban ants >from breeding. Luckily, most people (of those to whom I've spoken, >anyway) don't really know anything about it. If its what we here in California know as "Locoweed", you don't want to mess with it. What it is, is Jimson weed (sp?) and is a very dangerous drug.. poison. There have been cases of permenant blindness, psychosis and even fatalities.. Not a safe drug at all. If you must use it, do so in very small amounts. _ | | \ *jbrooks at connectnet.com | "What ever you do, | | < *http://www2.connectnet.com/~jbrooks | take care of your |_| |_/ *WALSTIB / Keep our Internet free! | shoes" -- Phish From aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU Mon Sep 23 19:41:02 1996 From: aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU (Duane Hoyt) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 19:41:02 -0400 Subject: OFF: more R'n'R HoF Message-ID: Keith points out: >The Bee Gees ROTFL! No way! >Buffalo Springfield O.K., I like these guys somewhat, but certainly not Hall of Fame material >Crosby, Stills, and Nash I'll concur with this vote. >The Jackson 5 And what pray-tell do these guys have to do with Rock and Roll? I guess one of the criteria for getting in is selling lots of commercial crap music. >Joni Mitchell Good songwriter, but again, not Hall of Fame stuff. >Parliament-Funkadelic These guys get in just for the novelty of them. Maybe you don't like funk, but these guys play the best space-funk around. Maybe the only space/sci-fi band that will make it? >The Rascals Not even close. >I suppose Cap'n & Tennille and Sonny & Cher will follow next year. :) I wouldn't be half surprised if Cher made it in (without Sonny) If you're gonna put some of these other people in that don't deserve it, why not Cher? I have been there, and I'd say half the exhibits are legit Hall of Famers They had a nice Pink Floyd exhibit, and some good Hendrix stuff, and they do have Al Bouchard's drumsticks. It ain't ALL bad. Duane From aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU Mon Sep 23 19:47:17 1996 From: aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU (Duane Hoyt) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 19:47:17 -0400 Subject: OFF: more R'n'R HoF Message-ID: Theo says: >Whatever the merits [lack ] of Jackson 5 or [legitimate] P-funk, >aren't they soul acts? Will they induct Johnny Cash next year 'cause Someone correct me if I'm wrong please, but I believe Johnny is already in the H o' F. Duane ( who apologizes for the lousy editing on this one) From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Mon Sep 23 20:19:07 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Le Monsieur) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 19:19:07 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: drugs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, Jerry wrote: > >I think it's something like hemp, only not as strong. > Not as strong? Why would someone smoke something to get high, but which is > not as strong as hemp? OK, it's legal. And remember, it's *everywhere*. (Everywhere rural, anyway) And, like Joseph Brooks just said, it also happens to be quite poisonous. I guess it's like natural paint cans or something. :) Actually, from what I remember from that li'l info sheet, most of the time users make tea out of it. Damon Capehart | "As their numbers dwindled from 70 to 8, the aka Le Monsieur | dwarves began to suspect Hungry..." dcapehar at utdallas.edu | From lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU Mon Sep 23 20:55:53 1996 From: lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU (dave cohen) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 20:55:53 -0400 Subject: HW: SA & CYM [moorcock] In-Reply-To: <199609232051.PAA17615@deliverator.io.com> from "Hawkwind" at Sep 23, 96 03:51:35 pm Message-ID: > > RE: Mike Moorcock > > > i have heard some hawkfans say that they took the phrase > > "do not panic" literally when they say moorcock come on stage > > These fans obviously never saw Hawkwind at the Hammersmith Odeon or the > Rainbow when the man appeared with the band!!!! He ALWAYS made the gig > something special and having him recite some of his poetry to a background > of HW synths is THE way to kick off a Hawkwind show. actually i was thinking of the stories i've heard about people tripping while MM was performing and nearly getting sick due to the "ferocity" of his poetry declamation (so the above was a bit ;^) (tongue in cheek)... --dave From stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM Mon Sep 23 21:33:02 1996 From: stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM (William Stone) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 18:33:02 -0700 Subject: OFF: Re: drugs Message-ID: You wrote: > >At 12:27 AM 9/23/96 -0500, you wrote: >>On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, Jerry wrote: > > >If its what we here in California know as "Locoweed", you don't want to mess >with it. What it is, is Jimson weed (sp?) and is a very dangerous drug.. >poison. There have been cases of permenant blindness, psychosis and even >fatalities.. Not a safe drug at all. If you must use it, do so in very small >amounts. Indeed. This, as I recall, is Castenada's Little Smoke. She's not to be trifled with by amatures. Wylie, but y'all may call me Brujo... From skarsol at EROLS.COM Mon Sep 23 20:47:05 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 00:47:05 +0000 Subject: HW: Abducted ! Message-ID: Dave Berry wrote: > Far from being a travesty, that track is a highlight of the album for me. > Musically and vocally, it's one of the most varied and interesting tracks > on the album. I was disappointed that they didn't play it live; I would > have liked to bounce around to: "I'm... being... beamed... UP!". > > Someone wrote that the lyrics were every adolescent's dream. But what > makes being "beamed up" any less sensible that being "abducted"? Are > the lyrics to "Sputnik Stan" -- or even "Silver Machine" or "Master Of > The Universe" -- that mature and sensible? I take them all with a pinch > of salt, and enjoy them immensely! > > Dave. i dont like beamed up myself,but i agree with what you are saying dave. i dont like the song,simply because it doesnt click.i am able to set aside my grasp on reality enuff so that the ridiculous phrasing doesnt bother me.imo,when you start analyzing hw lyrics,you are asking for trouble.its all sci-fi/fantasy,which, when ya get right down to it, is all childish as hell- whether its dr. asimov or dr.suesse. ya love it or leave it.me...i refuse to grow up,and ya cant make me.:P rj From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Tue Sep 24 03:27:35 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:27:35 +0200 Subject: HW: Urban Gorilla meets Hassan the 7" Message-ID: hi, just learnt the Israeli Urban Guerilla/Brainbox Pollution 7" has a [misunderstood] label that reads "Urban Gorilla". is this actually a BOC cover of Godzilla? ;0) there's also a italian pressed Hassan/Hassan promo 7" out there, for those of us who looks for the lost *standard* Hassan 7"'s... cat# is Charisma AS5000489. \\joe From david at MASTMOOR.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Sep 24 02:15:49 1996 From: david at MASTMOOR.DEMON.CO.UK (David Jones) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 07:15:49 +0100 Subject: HW: Love in Space Video Message-ID: >> I have been told that last Saturdays Daily Telegraph had a short review of >> the video from the love in space tour so it should be out soon - anybody >> seen it yet ? > >The Daily Telegraph is available on the web. Do they have back issues >there as well? (I don't have a web browser to check at the moment). They have back issues and a full search facility. A serach for the word Hawkwind in September reveals a mention in an article on J.G. Ballard but no video review. I don't know if they put the full text of the all the paper on their site particulalry on a Saturday. David From mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK Tue Sep 24 08:52:20 1996 From: mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK (Mike Parkington) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 08:52:20 +-100 Subject: HW perch fallen off Message-ID: Personally I couldn't give a rats bodkin what "the people out there" think of Hawkwind. These are presumably the people that consider the Jackson 5 to be an arse (ass) kicking rock band too! One bad apple don't spoil the whole bunch yeah! (screaming-guitar-pelvic-thrust-smoke-flames-roaring Harley etc etc) Lemmy: Hi Mikey, how'd the gig go (drinks huge slug of JD) Mike J: Smokin dude! (lights enormous spliff the size of Saturn V rocket) Lemmy: Love the stage makeup, really gruesome, makes me look like Claudia Schiffer (eats pills) Mike J: Makeup?? (produces small live monkey wearing black leather codpiece) Lemmy: Sings "Mike's for ever blowing Bubbles, pretty bubbles-------etc (falls over) ---------- From: J Strobridge[SMTP:eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK] Sent: Monday, September 23, 1996 06:34 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: OFF: Re: RealAudio Phil - Can't we go back to pen and paper? - Wane writes: > Before anyone gets offended I really like the bands discussed in this group but > let's be honest, there's a lot of people out there think that Hawkwind fell off > their perch a long time ago! and when was the last time they went to see Hawkwind live.....?! > "Oh what a treacherous web we weave..." is't not a "tangled web"? yours, in pedantic deceit, jill 8-) ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(A8'`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$-@ 0` M`@````(``@`!!) &`#0!```!````# ````,``# #````"P`/#@`````"`?\/ M`0```%$`````````@2L?I+ZC$!F=;@#=`0]4`@````!"3T,O2&%W:W=I;F0@ M1&ES8W5S``(P`0````4```!33510`````!X``S !````%P```$)/0RU,0$Q)4U13 M15)6+E-00RY%1%4```,`%0P!`````P#^#P8````>``$P`0```!\````G0D]# M+TAA=VMW:6YD($1IK90[:F[`1X`< `!````%P```%)%.DA7('!EU0K=,#&S 5XQ'0M\,`(*_'=' ``!X`'@P!````!0`` M`%--5% `````'@`?# $````2````;61P0'1A9'!O;&4N8V\N=6L````#``80 M/-*P> ,`!Q#C! ``'@`($ $```!E````4$524T].04Q,64E#3U5,1$Y41TE6 M14%205130D]$2TE.5TA!5")42$5014]03$5/55142$5212)42$E.2T]&2$%7 M2U=)3D142$5314%215!215-534%"3%E42$5014]03$542 `````"`0D0`0`` M`(<%``"#!0``8PD``$Q:1G6(^-ZF_P`*`0\"%0*H!>L"@P!0`O()`@!C: K M$6$"(>P0N :X$>@&8 at 2&%W:P/PX&YD+B!4'? 1L!R0YQ80 M'A 6$'-U`, "8!N ?QWI'> =H06@`($$@2&S2J4`T&L;(2 U'L!O'0!''($# MH!&2("AA!! 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Arrival in Utopia is superb. Utopia is (IMO) space filler. Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. From mumford at EUNET.NO Tue Sep 24 05:38:36 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:38:36 +0200 Subject: HW: SA & CYM Message-ID: Dave Berry wrote: > > > Lemme take a stab at it.... > > > > AiU is the goodie and Utopia is the stinker > > Exactly. Arrival in Utopia is superb. Utopia is (IMO) space filler. > > Dave. > -- I agree, Arrival in Utopia is superb, but Utopia isn't that bad as space-filler (Hawkwind can do ALOT worse IMHO) - I rather enjoy the repeated message in 'the right frame of mind' :P... I think the album has a great 'cybernetic' feel, like the 'fillers' throughout, without getting too bad (like Church of Hawkwind). As for the title track, I think it's one of Moorcock's best (and he's done some bad vocal performances... BTW, I always thought 'Do Not Panic' was a reference to the Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy..?). I think CYM a far better album overall than Sonic Attack. I can definetly do without the lackluster remakes of classics on both albums though. Christian From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 24 12:46:31 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:46:31 BST Subject: HW: SA & CYM In-Reply-To: Hawkwind's message of Mon, 23 Sep 1996 15:51:35 -0500 Message-ID: Hawkwind writes: > As far as I'm concerned (and I'm speaking with my 'huge Hawkwind fan' hat > on), MM's vocals on 'Coded Languages' made that track and I never could get > used to hearing Harvey do them live; I don't think he ever got the same feel > as MM but he did suffice. Seconded! > Star Rats FoFP From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 24 12:49:12 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:49:12 BST Subject: HW: SA & CYM In-Reply-To: Karl Hiller's message of Mon, 23 Sep 1996 16:40:51 -0500 Message-ID: Karl Hiller writes: > On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, Craig A. Shipley wrote: > Fans of the Illuminati series may want to count the number of > repetitions... Is it a coincidence, or a sinister plot? It's definitely time Hawkwind did an "Illuminatus" album. It shouldn't even be too hard to get Ken Campbell to do some poetry. Should we send Dave B the trilogy or do we figure he's already read 'em? Peeve: Not thinking of that one for the online interview. > Karl FoFP From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 24 12:53:17 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:53:17 BST Subject: HW: Urban Gorilla meets Hassan the 7" In-Reply-To: Johan Edlundh's message of Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:27:35 +0200 Message-ID: Johan Edlundh writes: > hi, > just learnt the Israeli Urban Guerilla/Brainbox Pollution 7" has a [misunderstood] label that reads "Urban Gorilla". > is this actually a BOC cover of Godzilla? ;0) > > > there's also a italian pressed Hassan/Hassan promo 7" out there, for those of us who looks for the lost *standard* Hassan 7"'s... > cat# is Charisma AS5000489. Looks like Joe got his Discography from Ade too. > \\joe FoFP From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 24 12:59:30 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:59:30 BST Subject: Zeta Orionis Message-ID: Disclaimer: yeah, I don't approve of boots in principle either but if yer a kompletist... So, news for those who've set up a trade with me for this one. The person who's able to get 'em has just posted 'em to me. I'm extremely busy this weekend though so I can't promise to mail 'em out before next Tuesday. However, sending your snailmail address to me at this point would be A Good Plan. My contact is also searching for any of the CD-R boots apart from Timeless Paens. If anyone can help, I'm sure he'd appreciate it a lot. Cheers FoFP From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 24 08:23:22 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:23:22 +0100 Subject: Vinyl remasters? In-Reply-To: <9609231802.aa25363@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> from "M Holmes" at Sep 23, 96 06:02:30 pm Message-ID: > * The better tracks from the Weird Tapes put onto CD (particularly a > longer version of "Where Are They Now?") _ALL_ the tracks from the Weird Tapes might as well go on CD. And when they do, I may kill someone if they don't fill the CDs as best they can--some of the WTs are very short and one could easily fit a couple of them on one CD. There would be _no_ call for putting the contents of each cassette on a seperate CD! > * An album consisting of the other tracks from the Live '79 tour. > Particularly New Jerusalem, PXR5, and a full version of Silver Machine. Hear, hear! > * Other track versions from 7" singles which haven't made it to CD: Also, there are a few Brock solo pieces which haven't made it to CD ... > * Roadhawks on CD. This I don't quite understand ... haven't nearly all the tracks from this now appeared in a remastered format while even the Warrior tracks are at least available on CD? Mind you, I'd rather see a remastered _Warriors_ ... Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 24 08:48:37 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:48:37 +0100 Subject: HW: Abducted ! In-Reply-To: <199609231504.QAA02976@abel.ed.harlequin.co.uk> from "Dave Berry" at Sep 23, 96 04:04:00 pm Message-ID: > > (though in truth, we must lay a certain amount of blame on the whole > > band for travesties like "Beam Me Up" ;) > > Far from being a travesty, that track is a highlight of the album for me. > Musically and vocally, it's one of the most varied and interesting tracks > on the album. I was disappointed that they didn't play it live; I would > have liked to bounce around to: "I'm... being... beamed... UP!". Oh, what I object to on that track is that it doesn't form a very useful "piece". It sounds like several seperate song kernels that they tacked together. A couple of them, I quite liked and was annoyed that they didn't get turned into "proper" songs (which seem to be in short supply more often than not on recent HW releases). Hawkwind can sing silly lyrics as long as they like, though if they were going to make explicit references to sci-fi television that they should make explicit references to _British_ sci-fi television! Where are the Dr. Who samples? :) That would be much cooler than Star Trek samples/references :) And I'll take this opportunity to restate my oft-repeated demand that Hawkwind should cover the Dr. Who theme :) Or better yet, be hired to do the theme music for a new series with Paul McGann done properly by the BBC :) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Tue Sep 24 08:57:24 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:57:24 +0200 Subject: HW: Urban Gorilla meets Hassan the 7" Message-ID: >> hi, >> just learnt the Israeli Urban Guerilla/Brainbox Pollution 7" has a [misunderstood] label that reads "Urban Gorilla". >> is this actually a BOC cover of Godzilla? ;0) >> >> >> there's also a italian pressed Hassan/Hassan promo 7" out there, for those of us who looks for the lost *standard* Hassan 7"'s... >> cat# is Charisma AS5000489. > > > >Looks like Joe got his Discography from Ade too. actually not - I'm in touch with a german friend with both in his Kollektion. I've ordered the Ade Discography about six weeks ago, but havn't received it yet. When did you got your copy? >FoFP \\joe From jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 24 09:05:40 1996 From: jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:05:40 +0100 Subject: HW: Abducted ! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, Carl E. Anderson wrote: > And I'll take this opportunity to restate my oft-repeated > demand that Hawkwind should cover the Dr. Who theme :) > Or better yet, be hired to do the theme music for a new series > with Paul McGann done properly by the BBC :) And in those last five words lies the greatest problem of them all... I'm back, by the way. Jazza ______________________________________________________________________________ YOU HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY THE ALICE'S RESTAURANT ANTI-MASSACRE MOVEMENT "...and we were fined fifty dollars and had to pick up th' garbage in th'snow... but that i'n't what I came to tell you about..." From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 24 09:21:14 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:21:14 +0100 Subject: HW: Abducted ! In-Reply-To: from "Jon Jarrett" at Sep 24, 96 02:05:40 pm Message-ID: > I'm back, by the way. Good--just time for you to catch up on things like the addition of Jerry Wossname on guitar to HW, the imminent Brain Surgeons release, the word that BOC is *actually* in the studio (whether this means anything remains to be seen), and of course the upcoming live HW album from the last tour with Lemmy in 1974. In the meantime, drop over to www.hawkwind.com and read the fine interview with Dave Brock (if its still there!). Oh yes--and welcome back, of course :) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************* Carl Edlund Anderson "So that's Terra. Oohwee, cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk look out wenchlings, here http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html come the Hawklords." Dept. of ASNAC, University of Cambridge -Lord Lemmy (Hawkwind) ************************************************************************* From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 24 14:32:41 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:32:41 BST Subject: Vinyl remasters? In-Reply-To: Carl E. Anderson's message of Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:23:22 +0100 Message-ID: Carl E. Anderson writes: > > * The better tracks from the Weird Tapes put onto CD (particularly a > > longer version of "Where Are They Now?") > > _ALL_ the tracks from the Weird Tapes might as well go on CD. > And when they do, I may kill someone if they don't fill the CDs as best > they can--some of the WTs are very short and one could easily fit a > couple of them on one CD. There would be _no_ call for putting the > contents of each cassette on a seperate CD! I'd definitely concur with this. > > * An album consisting of the other tracks from the Live '79 tour. > > Particularly New Jerusalem, PXR5, and a full version of Silver Machine. > > Hear, hear! Looking at the lists for the gigs, tracks not already on Live '79 which could be used are: Sonic Attack New Jerusalem PXR5 Silver Machine Prelude/Who's Gonna Win The War? World of Tiers Levitation Urban Guerilla and Phenomenon of Luminosity have already appeared on CD elsewhere but "Waiting For Nati" from the 1980 tour could also be incorporated on such an album. > > > * Other track versions from 7" singles which haven't made it to CD: > > Also, there are a few Brock solo pieces which haven't made it > to CD ... Yep, there are a few tracks from demo tapes that haven't been released. The various other Hawkwind tracks which aren't on CD are: Star Song (title unknown) Wishart The Blackening Rabbit Brock? The Joker Of The Universe Moorcock The Timeship Will Not Sail Again Moorcock Your Secret's Safe With Me Wishart Time For Sale Calvert? Astronauts Ashley? Note From A Cold Planet Moorcock The Welcoming Hands Of Space Ashley? They've Got Your Number Langton Mark Of Cain Langton Ode To A Crystal Set Calvert Time Of Brock? My Armour's Killing Me Moorcock Raping Robots In The Street Brock Obviously it might be difficult to get the rights to release these but it certainly would be a worthwhile project to get at least some of them out. > > * Roadhawks on CD. > > This I don't quite understand ... haven't nearly all the tracks > from this now appeared in a remastered format Yeah, I guess this one isn't too important. > Carl FoFP From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 24 14:36:17 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:36:17 BST Subject: HW: Urban Gorilla meets Hassan the 7" In-Reply-To: Johan Edlundh's message of Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:57:24 +0200 Message-ID: Johan Edlundh writes: > >> there's also a italian pressed Hassan/Hassan promo 7" out there, > >> for those of us who looks for the lost *standard* Hassan 7"'s... > >> cat# is Charisma AS5000489. > > > >Looks like Joe got his Discography from Ade too. > actually not - I'm in touch with a german friend with both in his > Kollektion. Bastard!^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HI'm really pleased for him :-) > I've ordered the Ade Discography about six weeks ago, but havn't > received it yet. When did you got your copy? Yesterday. I guess yours may be on its way. I did notice that Ade didn't pick up the PXR5 "High Rise" track difference between CD and LP. However, since there are apparently two versions of the "Kerb Crawler" single ( a Hawkwind mix and a Dave Gilmour mix) it looks like I have something else to track down. > \\joe FoFP From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Tue Sep 24 09:57:48 1996 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (Mike Wright) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:57:48 +0100 Subject: Vinyl remasters? In-Reply-To: <9609241432.aa06253@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, M Holmes wrote: > Carl E. Anderson writes: > > > > * Roadhawks on CD. > > > > This I don't quite understand ... haven't nearly all the tracks > > from this now appeared in a remastered format > > Yeah, I guess this one isn't too important. > FoFP No, I demand Roadhawks to be put on CD, it was the first HWK I heard, and it was what got me into them, and the combination of songs is perfect. Especially this bit Space Is Deep Wind Of Change The Golden Void Mike w From ISTS018 at UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU Tue Sep 24 09:45:24 1996 From: ISTS018 at UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU (Doug) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 08:45:24 CDT Subject: new CD-r Message-ID: Children of the Hawk, The lastest offering is the most exellent _The A Files_, a complete show from Denver, CO on 4-23-95. It was recorded on DAT so the sound if great! After the slightly disappointing _Corridor of Flame_ this is a strong follow up. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Doug Bates Systems Analyst Univ. of Alabama at Birmingham Voice (205) 934-9087 Fax (205) 975-7129 Email dbates at uab.edu From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Tue Sep 24 10:02:00 1996 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:02:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Abducted ! In-Reply-To: Carl E. Anderson's mail of Tue, 24 Sep 96 13:48 +0100 Message-ID: > It sounds like several seperate song kernels that > they tacked together. A couple of them, I quite liked and was annoyed > that they didn't get turned into "proper" songs. Maybe they will on the next album :-). > Hawkwind can sing silly lyrics as long as they like, though > if they were going to make explicit references to sci-fi television > that they should make explicit references to _British_ sci-fi > television! I'd like them to write songs inspired by recent SF by Greg Egan or Neal Stephenson. I'm sure they could do wonders with nanotechnology and virtual reality. Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. From stephen at SPATIAL.UNISYS.COM Tue Sep 24 09:57:30 1996 From: stephen at SPATIAL.UNISYS.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:57:30 -0400 Subject: HW: Urban Gorilla meets Hassan the 7" Message-ID: > However, since there are apparently two versions of the "Kerb Crawler" > single ( a Hawkwind mix and a Dave Gilmour mix) it looks like I have > something else to track down. > Oh interesting, and pray how does one tell the difference ? do we know ? I think mines in a pic sleeve with the Atomhenge shot - kinda cool Cheers, Steve L. From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 24 15:18:48 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:18:48 BST Subject: HW: Urban Gorilla meets Hassan the 7" In-Reply-To: Stephen Lindsey's message of Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:57:30 -0400 Message-ID: Stephen Lindsey writes: > > However, since there are apparently two versions of the "Kerb Crawler" > > single ( a Hawkwind mix and a Dave Gilmour mix) it looks like I have > > something else to track down. > > > > Oh interesting, and pray how does one tell the difference ? do we know ? 'fraid I don't. I don't even know which one I have. They both have tha same catalogue number. Does anyone have both versions? > > I think mines in a pic sleeve with the Atomhenge shot - kinda cool Yep, they reused part of that set for my first Hawkwind gig in '77. What I really remember though was the film of the tree during Wind of Change. FoFP From tori at PANIX.COM Tue Sep 24 10:30:53 1996 From: tori at PANIX.COM (Lurking Girl) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 10:30:53 -0400 Subject: HW: First HW member in R'n'R HoF In-Reply-To: <199609231659.MAA22994@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Well, I just visited the place this weekend, so I feel qualified to answer all this now that it's fresh in my mind :) Also, people should be aware that there are 2 parts to the whole location: there is the museum, which is most of the building, and the Hall of Fame, which is the top floor and consists only of the signatures of the artists with tiny pictures and a rah-rah quote about each. (Pink Floyd's quote was from some guy from Smashing Pumpkins. This strikes me as having Daniele Steel write a blurb for the back cover of _Lord of the Rings_.) Keith A Henderson wrote: > I immediately recognized it as being the Lemster's, and in fact they > panned back and there was a dummy or wax replica of Lemmy holding > said bass. I couldn't see too well, but the details of his face looked > a bit funny, esp. his 'handlebar' beard & moustache... Needless to say, they did not model his boils. I was disappointed. :) > I should note that even though they have these exhibits (on things > like Heavy Metal), it doesn't mean any of these artists will ever > officially 'get in' to the HoF. Black Sabbath has been eligible for > two years now, and apparently they're not getting in. Deep Purple I > don't think is in either. I actually hope it stays that way... Hell, Black Sabbath is scarcely represented even in the Heavy Metal exhibit (which is only a tiny corner of a gallery anyways). Their presence consists of an Iommi jacket. Woo. Deep Purple has a few bits of miscellanea, but that's it. > Before I claim that Lemmy is *really* the first HW member to appear in the > R'n'R HoF, maybe I should ask if Ginger Baker is in there as a member of > Cream. He is (and in the Hall of Fame itself, as well as having various representation throughout the museum). Tori From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Tue Sep 24 10:41:35 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:41:35 UT Subject: BOC: John Shirley Message-ID: Just noticed that JS has a new collection out, _The Exploded Heart_, and it includes some BOC lyrics - "Horsemen Arrive", "I'd Like to See You in Black", and "Nightmare Epiphany". See the extra, un-used verse to "Horsemen"! - Andy From tori at PANIX.COM Tue Sep 24 10:49:49 1996 From: tori at PANIX.COM (Lurking Girl) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 10:49:49 -0400 Subject: OFF: more R'n'R HoF In-Reply-To: <199609231919.PAA13592@beauty.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Message-ID: Keith A Henderson wrote: > P.S. Aren't CS&N *already* in as members of the Byrds, BS, and the > Hollies, respectively?? What's the point of putting them in again?? > I bet Eric Clapton will be in like six times or something....you know, > Yardbirds, Cream, Blind Faith, solo, unplugged, with beard, clean shaven, > with 'Tommy', etc. etc. etc. There's a lot of that -- John Lennon is in as a Beatle and as a solo artist, Clapton is listed three times (Yardbirds, Cream, and solo), etc. Don't ask me why; maybe they're trying to pad the roster? ;) As for some of the drek they're inducting -- according to the exhibit, the nominees are chosen by a small group of critics and industry insiders, and only then voted on by the larger music community. There ya have it... Tori From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 24 10:49:55 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:49:55 +0100 Subject: Vinyl remasters? In-Reply-To: from "Mike Wright" at Sep 24, 96 02:57:48 pm Message-ID: > No, I demand Roadhawks to be put on CD, it was the first HWK I heard, and > it was what got me into them, and the combination of songs is perfect. > Especially this bit > Space Is Deep Wind Of Change The Golden Void Well, you could dub them onto a tape :) Cheers, Carl ********************************************************************** Carl Edlund Anderson ASNAC Dept, U of Cambridge cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk ********************************************************************** From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Sep 24 10:33:52 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:33:52 +0100 Subject: HW: Urban Gorilla meets Hassan the 7" In-Reply-To: <9609241253.aa14820@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> Message-ID: In message <9609241253.aa14820 at uk.ac.ed.tattoo>, M Holmes writes > >Looks like Joe got his Discography from Ade too. > >> \\joe > >FoFP I wish I had! I've been waiting for nearly two months now :( Hippies! -- Jon Browne From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Wed Sep 25 04:56:44 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 10:56:44 +0200 Subject: BRAIN: Sightings Message-ID: At 09:39 PM 9/21/96 -0400, you wrote: >MikeMango writes: My friend, Frank Balisteri just returned from >Europe and reported your CDs are in HMVs in uk & France. > >Anyone else seen 'em anywhere? >DF > I've seen "Eponymous" in a CD shop in Stockholm, but this must have been for over a year ago, because they also had "Cult Classics" and it was brand new then. BTW didn't the owner of the shop know that _CC_ was new recordings of old songs (he thought it was just another compilation... but in a way he was right ;-) and he didn't know why he had "Eponymous" for sale... (he didn't know where it came from or that Al had made it). -Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 24 11:02:31 1996 From: jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:02:31 +0100 Subject: HW: Abducted ! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, Carl E. Anderson wrote: > Good--just time for you to catch up on things like the addition > of Jerry Wossname on guitar to HW, Oh, now that _has_ to be good news, except for the fact that I assume this now means Dave will be _completely_ invisible during their performances... I got myself a tape copy of 'Hawkwind' over the vacation, and I'm now very anxious to get hold of 'In Serach of Space' because I can't see how you get from 'Hawkwind' to Doremi without totally redirecting the style of the band. Although I suppose that's more or less what dropping Huw and adding Lemmy would do! > the word that BOC is *actually* in the studio (whether this means anything > remains to be seen), Mmmm. Have we got anyone other than Eric's word for this? > and of course the upcoming live HW album from the last tour with Lemmy > in 1974. Ooh good... > In the meantime, drop over to www.hawkwind.com and read the fine > interview with Dave Brock (if its still there!). > > Oh yes--and welcome back, of course :) Cheers mate! JAZZA From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Tue Sep 24 12:03:45 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:03:45 EST Subject: BOC: John Shirley Message-ID: > > Just noticed that JS has a new collection out, _The Exploded Heart_, and it > includes some BOC lyrics - "Horsemen Arrive", "I'd Like to See You in Black", > and "Nightmare Epiphany". See the extra, un-used verse to "Horsemen"! > > - Andy Ya think that means 'Black' won't be on the new album, then? I'm not familiar with 'Nightmare...' Is that a BOC concert song never released? theo From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Sep 24 10:16:15 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:16:15 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: drugs In-Reply-To: <199609240133.SAA14665@dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: In message <199609240133.SAA14665 at dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com>, William Stone writes > Indeed. This, as I recall, is Castenada's Little Smoke. She's not >to be trifled with by amatures. > > >Wylie, but y'all may call me Brujo... Off the top of my head, I seem to remember Castenada's Little Smoke was Los Humitos Mushrooms. Jimson Weed AKA Datura was quite a bloody BIG smoke! It's also available over the counter in the UK in Potter's Asthma Cigarette's so smoking has no huge effect. If you eat a Potter's Asthma Cigarette, however, you are subject to a three-day bender, where you lose it utterly. I've known two people try this stunt, both deeply regretted it. One of them, came to his senses three days later naked but for his underpants, in a Kwiky Mart, walking out with a tin of beans in his hand. He can't remember the three days at all. Another friend had a total fear experience. Camerars coming out of the floor, that kind of thing. He was lying in the middle of the road at one in the afternoon, waiting for the imagined bus to leave. He told me later that it was worse than the Belladonna Milkshake he had at Stonehenge '83! Another friend was out in the African bush with a couple of other travellers he met out there. One night this German girl eats some datura. Again, she loses it big time, thrashing about, screaming etc. Her friend was baby-sitting, so after a while my friend goes off to sleep somewhere. He woke up a bit later with this girl astride him and her bare ass *just* about to land on his face! If you're into Ethno-botany, shamanism or the works of Casteneda or McKenna, hey, I'd *still* leave this one alone! If you're looking for a recreational hit, I'd stick with what you know and give this sucker a wide berth! -- Jon Browne From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Tue Sep 24 11:14:27 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:14:27 UT Subject: HW: Abducted ! Message-ID: Carl said > And I'll take this opportunity to restate my oft-repeated >demand that Hawkwind should cover the Dr. Who theme :) "Doctorin' the Tardis" just didn't do it for you, eh? :) - Andy ObCD: Moby - _Animal Rights_ From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Wed Sep 25 05:23:02 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 11:23:02 +0200 Subject: BOC: John Shirley Message-ID: At 02:41 PM 9/24/96 UT, you wrote: >Just noticed that JS has a new collection out, _The Exploded Heart_, and it >includes some BOC lyrics - "Horsemen Arrive", "I'd Like to See You in Black", >and "Nightmare Epiphany". See the extra, un-used verse to "Horsemen"! > >- Andy > Is Shirley a good writer? I think his Bad Channels lyrics are silly but maybe his other efforts are better. His novels? -Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Tue Sep 24 11:22:10 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:22:10 UT Subject: BOC: John Shirley Message-ID: I don't *think* it has any bearing on what's going to be on the album - I don't actually have the book (it was a pricey import, and I'd read several of the stories already), but he didn't say much except "I've got some pages left, here's some lyrics I've written..." I do know that "Nightmare Epiphany" has been knocking around for a while - I think they demoed it a couple of years ago, but haven't played it live ever. - Andy From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Tue Sep 24 11:22:33 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:22:33 UT Subject: HW: First HW member in R'n'R HoF Message-ID: Tori said > Needless to say, they did not model his boils. I was disappointed. :) So how could you tell it was Lemmy? :)) - Andy From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Tue Sep 24 11:49:16 1996 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 11:49:16 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: Sightings Message-ID: and he didn't know why he had "Eponymous" for sale... He may not have been being completely honest with you--or he may just be an idiot! In my experience, though, most small shop owners are quite aware of why they order or stock any title. But he may have also been trying to throw you off the scent-- there are several foreign outlets that buy American promo records and review copies in bulk. You can't tell from the albums' "sealed" state, because the people who sell them just shrink wrap them again. You didn't happen to notice if other items in the store were marked, in English, "promo" or "Not For Sale" or had prominent holes or cut-out marks? These people also buy the records very cheaply and then try to pass them off at the usual inflated import price. Needless to say, little, if any, of the "profit" flows back to the creators of the work. But if this shop and its wares are indeed legitimate, you might want to inform the owner of the availability of Trepanation, which can be ordered from Ripe & Ready in the States. The pres of the company has an e-mail address, MikeMango@ aol.com, and they (or you) can contact him directly for more details and info. From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Tue Sep 24 11:51:08 1996 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (Mike Wright) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:51:08 +0100 Subject: Vinyl remasters? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, Carl E. Anderson wrote: > > No, I demand Roadhawks to be put on CD, it was the first HWK I heard, and > > it was what got me into them, and the combination of songs is perfect. > > Especially this bit > > Space Is Deep Wind Of Change The Golden Void > > Well, you could dub them onto a tape :) > Well, I might have already done that, but as I have a CD Rom on my computer at work which plays constantly, it would enrich my life if I could have my favourite HW playing whilst I work, instead of having to listening to all my other HW albums Mike w OBCD: Hawkwind Live St Albans UK Winter Tour OBgroovytrack New Jerusalem From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Tue Sep 24 11:55:04 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:55:04 UT Subject: BOC: John Shirley Message-ID: Daniel asks >Is Shirley a good writer? I think his Bad Channels lyrics are silly but >maybe his other efforts are better. His novels? I'm more familiar with his short fiction than his novels (general opinion seems to be that his short fiction is better anyway), and from them I'd say, he's not a terribly original writer, but when he gets his teeth into a story he won't let go, and he writes in a very visceral, energetic manner. Probably read too much Harlan Ellison as a youngster! As far as critics go - William Gibson likes him, Gene Wolfe called him "an ultramodern writer who would have made a marvelous eighteenth-century pamphleteer", while John Clute dismissively said "mostly he does organ-grinder riffs out of the dead past of the genre and the bottom of his drawer. Not strongly recommended" (which is Clute-speak for saying he's shite.) I think he's worth trying, anyway - this new collection (_The Exploded Heart_) is a good place to start. - Andy ObCD: Moby - _Animal Rights_ From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Tue Sep 24 12:05:16 1996 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:05:16 -0400 Subject: BOC in OKLA? Message-ID: Hi Mike. They are gong to be in Springfield, MO Wed with REO. A one hour set according to Eric. Ric From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Sep 24 12:10:40 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:10:40 -0400 Subject: BOC: John Shirley Message-ID: >Is Shirley a good writer? I think his Bad Channels lyrics are silly but maybe his other efforts are better. His novels? I read his "New Noir" collection - very weird. All short stories from what I gather to be a rather twisted mind. I wasn't overly enthralled with the stories, but I had to admit that they were rather different. IMHO, they weren't very deep, and were over before a real plot got much of a chance to develop. The only two stories I vaguely remember had to do with 1) a junkie who while wasted turns into (or dreams he is turned into) a mosquito and goes looking for the blood of a women he lusts after, and 2) a guy who manages to choke a hooker to death while she's giving him a blowjob, and her jaw locks down on his genitals and he can't remove her. Like I said, weird . . . John From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 24 17:07:06 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:07:06 BST Subject: OFF: Re: drugs In-Reply-To: Jon Browne's message of Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:16:15 +0100 Message-ID: Jon Browne writes: > If you're into Ethno-botany, shamanism or the works of Casteneda or > McKenna There's an excellent book researching Castaneda and showing pretty convincingly that the guy more or less made it all up from reading books like the Wasson's stuff in the University Library. The officials probably knew this but Castaneda hit on a war between tradional and ethnographic anthropologists and the ethno side gave 'im the Ph.D that was supposedly awarded for the research in the first book. The analysis goes into the fact that the timeline (as well as major plot elements) in the first three books differs radically, and is inconsistent with, the timeline as described in the second three books. However, the author (I can't remember the author or title) is still an admirer of Castaneda and regards him as a "Holy Fool" - a japester who brings necessary knowledge through exposing hypocrisy and credulity through what amounts to what the celts call "A Total Windup". Personally I liked the first couple of books but I don't regard them as any more spiritually enlightening as T.Lobsang Rampa's books (Mr. Rampa is apparently an accountant in England and no more posesses a psychic third eye than President Clinton does a sense of integrity). > Jon Browne FoFP From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 24 17:09:04 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:09:04 BST Subject: Vinyl remasters? In-Reply-To: Mike Wright's message of Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:51:08 +0100 Message-ID: Mike Wright writes: > OBCD: Hawkwind Live St Albans UK Winter Tour > OBgroovytrack New Jerusalem This peeves me actually. The sound quality is crap and its existence possibly helps prevent a real release of this track. Peeve: I still don't have a tape of Blake's solo spot from the Gong 25th Anniversary reunion. Apparently he played a kickin' version of NJ there. FoFP From mordru at MAGG.NET Tue Sep 24 12:25:51 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:25:51 -0400 Subject: BOC: John Shirley Message-ID: >Is Shirley a good writer? I think his Bad Channels lyrics are silly but >maybe his other efforts are better. His novels? The following is John Shirley's entry in the Encyclopedia of Science Fiction, ed. by John Clute (entry by Clute and Chris Williamson): Shirley, John (Patrick) (1954- ) US writer who began publishing with "The Word 'Random,' Deliberately Repeated" for Clarion (anth 1973) ed Robin Scott WILSON, and who has performed as a lead singer in rock bands, including the punk band Sado Nation. This background heavily influenced his first novel, the DYSTOPIAN "Transmaniacon" (1979), in which the typical JS protagonist appears: punk, anarchic, exorbitant, his mind evacuated of normal constraints, death-loving. Similar characters appear in "Three-Ring Psychus" (1980), which describes mass levitation with another anarchist rapture, and "City Come A-Walkin" (1980) set in a surrealistically harsh inner city. After writing some horror novels--to which genre his inclinations have constantly urged him, for JS is not at heart an sf writer--and most titles in the Traveler sequence as by D.B. DRUMM, he created his finest sf work in the CYBERPUNK-coloured "Song Called Youth" trilogy, "Eclipse" (1985), "Eclipse Penumbra" (1988) and "Eclipse Corona" (1990)--set after a realistically conceived WWIII and describing a technologically deft resistance movement which fights a neofacist regime to a standstill, ultimately defeating it. In another late novel, "A splendid Chaos" (1988) JS returns to a more surreal background, this time a hazardous planet where a small group of humans must compete for survival against unpredicatable aliens. But the main challenge to "normal" humans comes from some of their own species, who have been remolded in the image of their darkest fantasis--a horror device typical of the author, whose best effects have always come from sparking the gap between normality and horrific madness. Though his short work sometimes suffers burnout from excessive intensity, the stories assembled in "Heatseeker" (coll 1988) effectively demonstrate JS's solitudinous strengths, the flare of his anger. Other works: "Dracula in Love" (1979), "The Brigade" (1982), "Cellars" (1982); "Kamus of Kadizhar: The Black Hole of Carcosa: A Tale of the Darkworld Detective" (1988) (tied to J. Michael REAVES's "Darkworld Detective" (collection of linked sotries 1982), "In Darkness Waiting" (1988), "Wetbones" (1992). ======== Most of the the items in quotes in this should be in italics, but I can't send that in plain text. The items in all caps are referential items to other articles in the encyclopedia. I highly recommend this encyclopedia, BTW, to anyone into this kind of stuff... FWIW, in the music entry. Hawkwind, with whom Michael MOORCOCK was associated, built songs around stories by Roger ZELAZNY, Ray BRADBURY and others, introducing many sf archetypes, while Moorcock's own group, Deep Fix, recorded the uneven "New World's Fair" (1975). A better use of aggresively high-energy music with sf connotations can be found in the US Group Blue Oyster Cult. . Hawkwind is also mentioned briefly in the Michael Butterworth entry. They devote much more space to groups like Yes, Van Der Graaf Generator, David Bowie, Pink Floyd, and even Z.Z. Top(!). =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Tue Sep 24 17:43:56 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:43:56 BST Subject: HW: Kerb Crawler In-Reply-To: Stephen Lindsey's message of Tue, 24 Sep 1996 09:57:30 -0400 Message-ID: Stephen Lindsey writes: > > However, since there are apparently two versions of the "Kerb Crawler" > > single ( a Hawkwind mix and a Dave Gilmour mix) it looks like I have > > something else to track down. > > > > Oh interesting, and pray how does one tell the difference ? do we know ? There's a purple label and a silver label. I've got the purple and it does *not* have Gilmour's name on it; however to the best of my knowledge there's no difference in the mixes - just in the credits, I think. > I think mines in a pic sleeve with the Atomhenge shot - kinda cool Shouldn't be - that was an error in the first ever Brian Tawn discography in Record Collector. Back on the Streets has the magnificent pic sleeve. Kerb Crawler was always just a plain white cover. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mlooney at IONET.NET Tue Sep 24 12:38:57 1996 From: mlooney at IONET.NET (J. Michael Looney) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:38:57 -0400 Subject: BOC in OKLA? Message-ID: At 12:05 PM 9/24/96 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Mike. > >They are gong to be in Springfield, MO Wed with REO. A one hour set >according to Eric. > >Ric > Wed the what? Please don't tell me Sept 25th, as I will be WAY out of town (like is AZ) until Friday Sept 27. -- Geek code: GAT -d---(----) H+ s:-- g+(?) p0? au a w+++ v-(++)*? C++++$ U?++++ P+ L 3 N+++ K W+++ m-- v-- -po+ Y+ t++ 5 j R+++ G' !tv(--) b+++ D++ B--- e+ u--(+)(**) h f+(?) r+++ n++ y+++(**) http://www.ionet.net/~mlooney/index.shtml From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Tue Sep 24 14:03:45 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 13:03:45 EST Subject: BOC: John Shirley Message-ID: > into) a mosquito and goes looking for the blood of a women he lusts after, > and 2) a guy who manages to choke a hooker to death while she's giving > him a blowjob, and her jaw locks down on his genitals and he can't remove > her. Like I said, weird . . . > > John He stole that idea from The World According to Garp, didn't he? theo From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Sep 24 10:59:36 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:59:36 +0100 Subject: HW: Urban Gorilla meets Hassan the 7" In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960924145942.0f576a98@eka.ericsson.se> Message-ID: In message <2.2.16.19960924145942.0f576a98 at eka.ericsson.se>, Johan Edlundh writes >I've ordered the Ade Discography about six weeks ago, but havn't received it >yet. When did you got your copy? Funny you should say that.... Anyone else waiting? -- Jon Browne From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 24 13:49:24 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:49:24 +0100 Subject: Vinyl remasters? In-Reply-To: <9609241709.aa10584@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> from "M Holmes" at Sep 24, 96 05:09:04 pm Message-ID: > > OBCD: Hawkwind Live St Albans UK Winter Tour > > OBgroovytrack New Jerusalem > > This peeves me actually. The sound quality is crap and its existence > possibly helps prevent a real release of this track. Not if HW and Co. have any brains. A proper release of the material at a reasonable price and everyone will go buy it, just like they do _every_other_ HW release. Record companies are such idiots about this kind of thing. If there's a demand for material they should do something about it--otherwise the _do_ lose money to bootleggers. Zeppelin is a case in point. Page sits on his ass and refuses to to deal with all the perfectly good live material that people would like to see. And instead does the remastered studio stuff in a variety of different formats and just like HW Kollectors everyone trotted out and replaced the old CDs with which they had replaced the vinyl. If you publish it, they will buy it. Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Sep 24 13:55:04 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:55:04 +0100 Subject: HW: Abducted ! In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Gilham" at Sep 24, 96 03:14:27 pm Message-ID: > > And I'll take this opportunity to restate my oft-repeated > >demand that Hawkwind should cover the Dr. Who theme :) > > "Doctorin' the Tardis" just didn't do it for you, eh? :) Well, it didn't sound enough like an out-take from Space Ritual ;) Cheers, Carl From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Sep 24 14:06:47 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:06:47 -0400 Subject: BOC: John Shirley Message-ID: >He stole that idea from The World According to Garp, didn't he? Well, a bit different. In Garp, the guy's unit was bitten off when the car they were in got hit. In Shirley's story, the guy gets a little too rough with the girl and while nothing is bitten off, the guy does have trouble, uh "getting around" - to the point where he needs to perform a bit of "removal" on his own. John From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Tue Sep 24 15:27:36 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Le Monsieur) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:27:36 -0500 Subject: OFF: Gong 25th Birthday (was: Vinyl remasters?) In-Reply-To: <9609241709.aa10584@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, M Holmes wrote: > Peeve: I still don't have a tape of Blake's solo spot from the Gong 25th > Anniversary reunion. Apparently he played a kickin' version of NJ there. That reminds me... the liner notes for Gong's 25th Birthday Party album say something to the effect of, "Coming soon: another live album of the rest of the birthday gig, featuring Here & Now, Tim Blake, [whoever else was there]. Look for it!" ...or something like that. What ever became of this? Did it ever come out? Damon Capehart | "As their numbers dwindled from 70 to 8, the aka Le Monsieur | dwarves began to suspect Hungry..." dcapehar at utdallas.edu | From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Sep 24 10:52:18 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 15:52:18 +0100 Subject: HW: Abducted ! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , "Carl E. Anderson" writes > And I'll take this opportunity to restate my oft-repeated >demand that Hawkwind should cover the Dr. Who theme :) Hvae to pick you up on that, Carl, too much negative stereotype re- inforcement. No, the BBC should commission the Hawks' to do a *new* theme, one which ROCKS MIGHTILY!!! Perhaps something a little Ministry-esque? sorta BLANGA BLANGA BLANGA DOCTOR WHO!!!!! *WHACK* *WHACK* *WHACK*! (sSSSSwooooshhhh!!!!!) -- Jon Browne From fswof at AURORA.ALASKA.EDU Tue Sep 24 16:50:44 1996 From: fswof at AURORA.ALASKA.EDU (William Fuller) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 12:50:44 -0800 Subject: OFF: Dr. Who theme In-Reply-To: <8TaGlOAiW$RyEwOX@comics.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, Jon Browne wrote: > Perhaps something a little Ministry-esque? > > sorta BLANGA BLANGA BLANGA DOCTOR WHO!!!!! *WHACK* *WHACK* *WHACK*! > (sSSSSwooooshhhh!!!!!) ROTFL! My pick would be Helios Creed (of Chrome). -- William Fuller fswof at aurora.alaska.edu From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Tue Sep 24 17:13:18 1996 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:13:18 -0400 Subject: BOC in OKLA? Message-ID: In a message dated 96-09-24 12:58:03 EDT, Mike writes: << >Hi Mike. > >They are gong to be in Springfield, MO Wed with REO. A one hour set >according to Eric. > >Ric > Wed the what? Please don't tell me Sept 25th, as I will be WAY out of town (like is AZ) until Friday Sept 27. >> Uhhh... OK, I won't tell you. Although it IS the 25th... They're going to be somewhere else in MO. on the 27th. With REO and Eddie Money. 45 min set per Eric. Sorry... Ric From delacour at UNM.EDU Tue Sep 24 18:15:20 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:15:20 -0600 Subject: BOC in OKLA? In-Reply-To: <960924171317_292305461@emout12.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Sep 1996 Rocker22 at AOL.COM wrote: > In a message dated 96-09-24 12:58:03 EDT, Mike writes: > > << >Hi Mike. > > > >They are gong to be in Springfield, MO Wed with REO. A one hour set > >according to Eric. > > > >Ric > > > Wed the what? > Please don't tell me Sept 25th, as I will be WAY out of town (like is AZ) > until Friday Sept 27. >> > > Uhhh... > > OK, I won't tell you. Although it IS the 25th... > > They're going to be somewhere else in MO. on the 27th. With REO and Eddie > Money. 45 min set per Eric. > > Sorry... > > Ric > Rocker22; If you go thru Albq, give me a call..... Manuel & Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From delacour at UNM.EDU Tue Sep 24 18:20:58 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 16:20:58 -0600 Subject: BOC: Greg Scott says OK In-Reply-To: <960924171317_292305461@emout12.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: BOC-L Folks; Just got of the phone with Greg Scott (BOC album cover artist) and he will be happy to chat with fans, past & present band members, and perhaps purchase some of his artwork. He does not have a computer, but he can be reached at his gallery at the following number; Greg Scott Gallery (505) 294-4063. And to think, I did not take 3 months to reply to the many requests for his number!!! I like picking on you, Theo ( Ted O. Jackson)!!! God bless... Manuel & Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM Tue Sep 24 20:49:52 1996 From: stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM (William Stone) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:49:52 -0700 Subject: OFF: Re: drugs Message-ID: >There's an excellent book researching Castaneda and showing pretty >convincingly that the guy more or less made it all up from reading books >like the Wasson's stuff in the University Library. As it was said back in the '70's: "A pack of lies, but what he says is true." Wylie From stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM Tue Sep 24 20:53:35 1996 From: stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM (William Stone) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 17:53:35 -0700 Subject: OFF: Re: drugs Message-ID: >Off the top of my head, I seem to remember Castenada's Little Smoke was >Los Humitos Mushrooms. Jimson Weed AKA Datura Datura I believe is a mushroom, once favored by the gentle Norsemen to create the proper Berserker mindset to visit their neighbors. I think you're right about the Little Smoke, tho. It was gentle, quite the reverse of Jimson. Now I've got to dig up the books, dammit :) Wylie From khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU Tue Sep 24 22:27:51 1996 From: khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Keith A Henderson) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 22:27:51 -0400 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: from "Lurking Girl" at Sep 24, 96 10:49:49 am Message-ID: Hi Folks... Have there been any 'Signify' sightings?? It was supposed to be out today, and unless I'm mistaken, via simultaneous Delerium (UK) and C&S (US) release. To anyone who witnessed the Shepherd's Bush Empire PT/ADII gig...what were the new Signify tracks like?? I've heard the title track live (in Baltimore), which was really heavy and driving rock (sim. in ways to MotU). Anything else stand out?? Any word on whether ADII will be trying to come to the US sometime soon?? If they're going to do Japan a second time, they should certainly make the effort to come this way.... :) Keith H. (FAA) P.S. Anybody know 'Fu Manchu'?? I think I heard a song of theirs in a record store recently. It was a good song, very much in the Monster Magnet vein. How do they compare? P.P.S. Anybody know what happened to the PT-Trans mailing list?? It went dead a couple months ago, came back for a few days, and then died again. From dahl at MAIL.AROS.NET Wed Sep 25 01:55:53 1996 From: dahl at MAIL.AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 23:55:53 -0600 Subject: Datura a mushroom? NOT! Message-ID: Wylie, I sense you've eaten a few mushrooms. Datura is far from being a mushroom. It's a green leafy plant (I've got 3 in my backyard, kind of a study you might say) with beautiful white flowers which give way to prickley seed pods. The seeds have the greatist concentration of toxin which is a mix of anticholinergic agents, mostly hyoscyamine. I'm a toxicologist specializing in toxic mushrooms. You should check out my Web page sometime. http://www.moosenet.com/poison.html Until then, be careful what you eat, BOC and Hawkwind need all their fans! Brad From mumford at EUNET.NO Wed Sep 25 03:37:11 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 09:37:11 +0200 Subject: OFF: Fu Manchu Message-ID: Keith A Henderson wrote: > > > P.S. Anybody know 'Fu Manchu'?? I think I heard a song of theirs in a record > store recently. It was a good song, very much in the Monster Magnet vein. How > do they compare? > Fu Manchu are more like a lo-fi, simpler Monster Magnet - good but not as groovy as Monster Magnet is at their best IMHO. I have their album 'In Search of....', which is their most recent one. I don't know anything about their previous releases. BTW, has anybody heard of the band Sleep? Apparantly they are a MM-esqe/heavily infuenced by Black Sabbath type band on the Earache label. Curious to know what they sound like (there was a reference to them in a Dave Wyndorf of Monster Magnet interview). Christian From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Tue Sep 24 14:35:28 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 05:35:28 +1100 Subject: HW: Abducted ! Message-ID: Andrew Gilham wrote: > > Carl said > > > And I'll take this opportunity to restate my oft-repeated > >demand that Hawkwind should cover the Dr. Who theme :) > > "Doctorin' the Tardis" just didn't do it for you, eh? :) > > - Andy > > ObCD: Moby - _Animal Rights_ Well, Pink Floyd do a little bit of this theme in their new concerts during "One of These Days" - there was a little bit that sounded a bit like the Who theme, and I guess that people made a few comments about it, as it is much more obvious now... -Max Wilcox From dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM Wed Sep 25 03:44:25 1996 From: dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM (Jeremy Dacombe) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 03:44:25 EDT Subject: HW: Few things Message-ID: --- Received from LIMEMO1.DACOMBJ 4709 25/09/96 08.42 -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBMMAIL INTERNET GATEWAY INTERNET All, Age's discog : Got mine 2 days ago, with "apologies for delay" note, so I guess they are all on their way by now. Quite an incredible publication, should keep the completest entertained for hours! Hawkeye #6 is also available, (details on request). Kerb Crawler: Has anybody checked out if the 2 versions are different? Musically I mean, not just the label. Bath 2.11.96: Phoned them direct yesterday, as Mike W says, postponed 'till January. Hawklords Live: The Griffin CD - mine has an annoying 1 second silence about 20 seconds into Automoton, anybody else's suffer in the same way? (I'm NOT talking about the power cut in Death Trap) Motorhead (Lemmy Radio interview) Does anybody have a cassette of the radio 1 phone in prog from 1978 with Lemmy? All for now Jez. From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Tue Sep 24 14:48:31 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 05:48:31 +1100 Subject: HW: SA & CYM Message-ID: Assassin Sonique wrote: > > On 23 Sep 96 at 0:49, Le Monsieur wrote: > > > One thing for sure, though: Mike Moorcock should *NEVER* be > > allowed to sing again, at least not like he 'sang' "Coded > > Languages". You've obviously never heard "New Worlds Fair"... -Max Wilcox From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Tue Sep 24 15:07:43 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 06:07:43 +1100 Subject: OFF: drugs Message-ID: Jon Browne wrote: > > In message <9609221849.AA21127 at borg.med.ecu.edu>, Martyn White > writes > >These have a distincive "nipple" morphology and can be found in > >many grassy fields in England in the late summer > > > >Martyn > About now, in fact. Hmmm ...although I reckon Wales is better. Hay > Bluff, just outside Hay-on-Wye. Southern-most tip of the Black > Mountains, you can pick by the sack. In fact, you can live up there from > now till November on nothing but fungi and rain-water and never meet > another soul. Or so I'm told. And that was a few years ago too. Not that > I would have anything to do with such outrageous behavior. Absolutely > not. No > -- > John Smith Well, Ol' Nik lives in Wales.... -Max Wilcox From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Wed Sep 25 04:51:39 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 08:51:39 UT Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree Message-ID: As I think I said in my gig review :), they said _Signify_ was out on Sept 30. I don't know if they played any tracks off it - I'm not familiar with their stuff. They did say there wasn't anything new in their set that night, but there would be in their headlining show on Nov 3. Renate said that Duul were hoping to come back to the UK next April or May, but I don't know about any more plans. I'm going to have to fax their management again... I saw Fu Manchu (with Carl) a few weeks ago - they were fun, in a spot-the-'70s-riff kind of way, but nothing to write home about, imo. - Andy From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Wed Sep 25 04:01:06 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 19:01:06 +1100 Subject: HW: Abducted ! Message-ID: > > >And I'll take this opportunity to restate my oft-repeated > > >demand that Hawkwind should cover the Dr. Who theme :) > > "Doctorin' the Tardis" just didn't do it for you, eh? :) >Well, it didn't sound enough like an out-take from Space Ritual ;) Someone else said something like: > Pink Floyd did a pretty convincing Dr. Who bit on "One Of These Days" > (on Meddle) and apparently when they did it live, they broke into the > whole theme. The Hawkwind - KLF link??? A friend sent me this: > I think the closest Hawkwind-KLF link is: Jimi Cauty originally > founded The Orb (with Alex Patterson) and The Orb did a cover of > Silver Machine (apparently.) > FYI, I got an album "Aunty Aubery's Excursions Beyond The Call Of > Duty" the other day, and it's a whole lot of other people's > singles that The Orb remixed. Included in the liner notes (which > is actually a booklet) it has lots of words which I haven't yet > read, and pictures of all The Orb's releases *including* Silver > Machine (although it says under it "The Orb's version of the > Hawkwind classic - unreleased.") Sonique -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Wed Sep 25 04:03:23 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 19:03:23 +1100 Subject: HW: Caution Message-ID: Hi All, You really oughta have a peek at: http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/Hawkwind/Caution But please read it *carefully* before sending me any rash "where can I get it?" e-mails ;^) Sonique -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Wed Sep 25 05:28:00 1996 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 10:28:00 +0100 Subject: HW: Abducted ! In-Reply-To: Assassin Sonique's mail of Wed, 25 Sep 96 19:01 +1100 Message-ID: > > I think the closest Hawkwind-KLF link is: Jimi Cauty originally > > founded The Orb (with Alex Patterson) and The Orb did a cover of > > Silver Machine (apparently.) If you want a "played with" link, Alex Patterson played with Steve Hillage (I believe), who of course played with Nik. > > pictures of all The Orb's releases *including* Silver > > Machine (although it says under it "The Orb's version of the > > Hawkwind classic - unreleased.") Maybe they'll put it on the 25th anniversary re-release, along with the Utah Saints version and the original? Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Wed Sep 25 08:50:25 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 07:50:25 EST Subject: BOC: Greg Scott says OK Message-ID: > And to think, I did not take 3 months to reply to the many requests for > his number!!! I like picking on you, Theo ( Ted O. Jackson)!!! > > God bless... > > Manuel & > Manuel, You've already got my number! theo From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 25 12:50:43 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 12:50:43 BST Subject: OFF: Gong 25th Birthday (was: Vinyl remasters?) In-Reply-To: Le Monsieur's message of Tue, 24 Sep 1996 14:27:36 -0500 Message-ID: Le Monsieur writes: > On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, M Holmes wrote: > > Peeve: I still don't have a tape of Blake's solo spot from the Gong 25th > > Anniversary reunion. Apparently he played a kickin' version of NJ there. > > That reminds me... the liner notes for Gong's 25th Birthday Party album > say something to the effect of, "Coming soon: another live album of the > rest of the birthday gig, featuring Here & Now, Tim Blake, [whoever else > was there]. Look for it!" ...or something like that. > > What ever became of this? Did it ever come out? this is Gong! They are about as flexible in their timescales as Hawkwind have been in the past. My great surprise was that the 25th birthday CD came out at all - I think it's very unlikely that we'll ever see the individual CDs this side of the turn of the millenium - but I could be wrong! jil ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 25 12:56:16 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 12:56:16 BST Subject: HW: Few things In-Reply-To: Jeremy Dacombe's message of Wed, 25 Sep 1996 03:44:25 EDT Message-ID: Jeremy Dacombe writes: > Kerb Crawler: > Has anybody checked out if the 2 versions are different? > Musically I mean, not just the label. will be doing this whenever I can get hold of the other version - hopefully soon. The *correct* answer to the label question is that there are two purple labels (one with Gilmour's name and one without) and a silver lable (without Gilmour's name) - tho' I admit I've never seen the silver one. I suspect the last is just a later issue since silver Charisma labels post-date the purple ones. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Wed Sep 25 14:24:06 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 20:24:06 +0200 Subject: OFF: Fu Manchu Message-ID: Christian wrote; >Fu Manchu are more like a lo-fi, simpler Monster Magnet - good but not >as groovy as Monster Magnet is at their best IMHO. > >I have their album 'In Search of....', which is their most recent one. I >don't know anything about their previous releases. I've got "Daredevil" (I think I've said this before) and after listening to "In Search of" I must say that "Daredevil" is much better. More groovy. But I think Fu Manchu has a big problem... all their songs sounds identically [spelling?]. But I will go and see them in Sweden this fall anyway :-) >BTW, has anybody heard of the band Sleep? Apparantly they are a >MM-esqe/heavily infuenced by Black Sabbath type band on the Earache >label. Curious to know what they sound like (there was a reference to >them in a Dave Wyndorf of Monster Magnet interview). > >Christian > I've got the promoversion of their first CD (oh no DF, I hope you're not getting mad at me now!) and it's very much like MonsterMagnet/Fu Manchu/Kyuss/Cathedral but not as good... and not as innovative [again, spelling?] ... maybe too much dope?... they uses Orange amplifiers though :-) ... I can tape it for you if you want to. -Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Wed Sep 25 14:41:48 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 20:41:48 +0200 Subject: Vinyl remasters? Message-ID: At 04:51 PM 9/24/96 +0100, you wrote: >On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, Carl E. Anderson wrote: > >> > No, I demand Roadhawks to be put on CD, it was the first HWK I heard, and >> > it was what got me into them, and the combination of songs is perfect. >> > Especially this bit >> > Space Is Deep Wind Of Change The Golden Void >> >> Well, you could dub them onto a tape :) >> Did the songs Urban Guerilla and Silver Machine first appear as 7" and never on a regular studio album? -Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From mumford at EUNET.NO Wed Sep 25 09:12:20 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 15:12:20 +0200 Subject: OFF: Fu Manchu Message-ID: Daniel Wikdahl wrote: > > I've got the promoversion of their first CD (oh no DF, I hope you're not > getting mad at me now!) and it's very much like MonsterMagnet/Fu > Manchu/Kyuss/Cathedral but not as good... and not as innovative [again, > spelling?] ... maybe too much dope?... Hey, drugs can be good fun - just look at Hawkwind - there's mighty fine head music in their massive repertoire, not to mention Monster Magnet! The fact that Hawkwind are still walking (well, more like standing animated like at their keyboards and synths anyway - no wonder they had to draft in a new member!) is a small miracle. Perhaps "taking drugs to make music to take drugs to" applies...(but you obviously don't need drugs to enjoy music, but I can't help but feel that Hawkwind are like a drug unto themselves - I'm heavily addicted to them, but not nearly as severely as some krazy people on this list!) >they uses Orange amplifiers though :-) So what does the color of the amps have to do with the sound they produce? Daniel, have you been smoking that Swedish Leaf again??? Christian ObChemical: DXM From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Sep 25 09:15:11 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:15:11 +0100 Subject: Vinyl remasters? In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19960925184148.00916464@mailbox.mc.hik.se> from "Daniel Wikdahl" at Sep 25, 96 08:41:48 pm Message-ID: > >> > No, I demand Roadhawks to be put on CD, it was the first HWK I heard,= > and > >> > it was what got me into them, and the combination of songs is perfect. > >> > Especially this bit > >> > Space Is Deep Wind Of Change The Golden Void > >> > >> Well, you could dub them onto a tape :) > >> > Did the songs Urban Guerilla and Silver Machine first appear as 7" and > never on a regular studio album?=20 Yes, but of course they are both on EMI remastered CDs (Doremi and In Search of Space, respectively). Cheer, Carl ********************************************************************** Carl Edlund Anderson ASNAC Dept, U of Cambridge cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk ********************************************************************** From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Wed Sep 25 10:22:15 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 09:22:15 EST Subject: OFF: Fu Manchu Message-ID: > >they uses Orange amplifiers though :-) > > So what does the color of the amps have to do with the sound they > produce? Daniel, have you been smoking that Swedish Leaf again??? > > Christian > > ObChemical: DXM Are they the new ones, or leftovers from the old days? Those amps really kick ass, though too big for me. theo From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Wed Sep 25 09:37:33 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 13:37:33 UT Subject: OTHER: Metallica do Motorhead Message-ID: Well, I picked up the version of "Hero of the Day" which has the four Motorhead tracks on it. Load of crap, don't waste your money. Muddy recordings of dodgy versions. - Andy From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Sep 25 09:49:08 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:49:08 +0100 Subject: OTHER: Metallica do Motorhead In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Gilham" at Sep 25, 96 01:37:33 pm Message-ID: > Well, I picked up the version of "Hero of the Day" which has the four > Motorhead tracks on it. Load of crap, don't waste your money. Muddy > recordings of dodgy versions. Actually, I picked this up the other day as well and rather enjoyed it. The poster was also quite amusing I though :) The worst recording on it was, IMO, the title track from Metallica ;) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************* Carl Edlund Anderson "So that's Terra. Oohwee, cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk look out wenchlings, here http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html come the Hawklords." Dept. of ASNAC, University of Cambridge -Lord Lemmy (Hawkwind) ************************************************************************* From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Sep 25 09:50:22 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 14:50:22 +0100 Subject: WTB: Kingston Wall II Message-ID: Can any Scandinavians (especially Finns) on the list help me out? I'm desperately searching for the second Kingston Wall CD (Kingston Wall II) which is now out of print and is presumably only lurking as remenant stock or in second-hand/used CD shops. Any assistance gratefully appreciated! Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Wed Sep 25 15:51:47 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 21:51:47 +0200 Subject: OTHER: Metallica do Motorhead Message-ID: At 01:37 PM 9/25/96 UT, you wrote: >Well, I picked up the version of "Hero of the Day" which has the four >Motorhead tracks on it. Load of crap, don't waste your money. Muddy >recordings of dodgy versions. > >- Andy > Corrosion of Conformity is Metallicas support at their coming Scandinavian shows and I really want to se them (CoC) but I can't stand another Metallicrap concert... "Sad But True". -Daniel PS Hey, why am I telling you this? DS "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Wed Sep 25 16:07:41 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 22:07:41 +0200 Subject: OFF: Fu Manchu Message-ID: Christian wrote; > >Hey, drugs can be good fun - just look at Hawkwind - there's mighty fine >head music in their massive repertoire, not to mention Monster Magnet! >The fact that Hawkwind are still walking (well, more like standing >animated like at their keyboards and synths anyway - no wonder they had >to draft in a new member!) is a small miracle. Perhaps "taking drugs to >make music to take drugs to" applies...(but you obviously don't need >drugs to enjoy music, but I can't help but feel that Hawkwind are like a >drug unto themselves - I'm heavily addicted to them, but not nearly as >severely as some krazy people on this list!) > Yes, I know that drugs can be fun, I smoke hamp sometimes but I don't feel that this is a very interresting topic. Something is wrong if you have to get high to enjoy concerts, parties or whatever... I don't care if the bands I like uses drugs or not as long as they don't die of it, and their music becomes history... like Shannon Hohn of "Blind Melon", Curt etc etc etc >>they uses Orange amplifiers though :-) > >So what does the color of the amps have to do with the sound they >produce? Daniel, have you been smoking that Swedish Leaf again??? Tobacco -yes, other plants -no. The drug laws in Sweden are pretty hysterical and I never do drugs in Sweden. Hell, I think some of the subscribers will laugh at me when I classifies Cannabis as drugs... ;-) And in this case the colour has to do with sound. Take a look at Teds mail! Do want to have a tape? Sverige a: sto:rre a:n Norge (as you didn't know) -Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Wed Sep 25 11:09:48 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 10:09:48 EST Subject: OTHER: Metallica do Motorhead Message-ID: > Corrosion of Conformity is Metallicas support at their coming Scandinavi= > an > shows and I really want to se them (CoC) but I can't stand another > Metallicrap concert... "Sad But True". > > -Daniel > Daniel, Should be a good one. CoC played a club gig up here a few months back and kicked ass... theo From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Wed Sep 25 16:12:20 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 22:12:20 +0200 Subject: OFF: Fu Manchu Message-ID: > >Are they the new ones, or leftovers from the old days? Those amps >really kick ass, though too big for me. >theo > Leftovers! -Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Wed Sep 25 16:15:39 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 22:15:39 +0200 Subject: WTB: Kingston Wall II Message-ID: I'll keep my eyes open, but Kalmar is not a very fun town to live in if you're searching hard-to-get-CDs. -Daniel At 02:50 PM 9/25/96 +0100, you wrote: > Can any Scandinavians (especially Finns) on the list help me >out? I'm desperately searching for the second Kingston Wall CD >(Kingston Wall II) which is now out of print and is presumably >only lurking as remenant stock or in second-hand/used CD shops. > > Any assistance gratefully appreciated! > >Cheers, >Carl > >************************************************************************ >Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett >cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" >http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * >Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump >************************************************************************ > > "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From stephen at SPATIAL.UNISYS.COM Wed Sep 25 10:16:28 1996 From: stephen at SPATIAL.UNISYS.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 10:16:28 -0400 Subject: HW: Few things Message-ID: Jeremy Dacombe writes: > Kerb Crawler: > Has anybody checked out if the 2 versions are different? > Musically I mean, not just the label. Then Jill says: >>>>> will be doing this whenever I can get hold of the other version - hopefully soon. The *correct* answer to the label question is that there are two purple labels (one with Gilmour's name and one without) and a silver lable (without Gilmour's name) - tho' I admit I've never seen the silver one. I suspect the last is just a later issue since silver Charisma labels post-date the purple ones. >>>>>> OK, I've got the Silver one, doesn't say Gilmour (or Brock) just says 'Produced by Hawkwind' So someone send me the other two and I'll compare ;-) Steve L. From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Wed Sep 25 16:25:21 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 22:25:21 +0200 Subject: OTHER: Metallica do Motorhead Message-ID: >Daniel, >Should be a good one. CoC played a club gig up here a few months >back and kicked ass... >theo > I believe you, I've always liked CoC but every time they comes to Scandinavia something stops me from going to their concerts. I've been very ill, THEY have cancelled a few days before, they played as Megadeths support (which I hate) and on one occasion I was at a Tull concert instead. And now they are Metallicraps support... sigh... -Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Wed Sep 25 10:33:27 1996 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 15:33:27 +0100 Subject: OTHER: Metallica do Motorhead In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 25 Sep 1996 22:25:21 +0200." <1.5.4.32.19960925202521.009118ec@mailbox.mc.hik.se> Message-ID: > I believe you, I've always liked CoC but every time they comes to > Scandinavia something stops me from going to their concerts. I've been very > ill, THEY have cancelled a few days before, they played as Megadeths support > (which I hate) and on one occasion I was at a Tull concert instead. Hmm, sounds like me trying to see Monster Magnet in England :-/ re: CoC, don't suppose anybody has the gtr tab for "Vote with a Bullet"? knocking around do they ? Tim ObRadioSong: Placebo, "Teenage Angst" From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Wed Sep 25 11:41:44 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 10:41:44 EST Subject: amp trivia Message-ID: > > > >Are they the new ones, or leftovers from the old days? Those amps > >really kick ass, though too big for me. > >theo > > > > Leftovers! > -Daniel > No shit! Any idea where they were made, and if the new ones are made by the same folks? theo From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Tue Sep 24 21:51:58 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 12:51:58 +1100 Subject: HW: Few things Message-ID: J Strobridge wrote: > > Jeremy Dacombe writes: > > > Kerb Crawler: > > Has anybody checked out if the 2 versions are different? > > Musically I mean, not just the label. > > will be doing this whenever I can get hold of the other version - > hopefully soon. The *correct* answer to the label question is that > there are two purple labels (one with Gilmour's name and one without) > and a silver lable (without Gilmour's name) - tho' I admit I've never > seen the silver one. I suspect the last is just a later issue since > silver Charisma labels post-date the purple ones. > > jill Does anybody know how Gilmour is connected with HW? Did he know anyone in the band? Friends? Or is it just that he seems to just mix at least one of every bloody band's albums? -Max Wilcox From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Wed Sep 25 10:55:33 1996 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 09:55:33 -0500 Subject: OFF: Fu Manchu In-Reply-To: Christian Mumford "Re: OFF: Fu Manchu" (Sep 25, 9:37am) Message-ID: Christian Mumford wrote: > BTW, has anybody heard of the band Sleep? Apparantly they are a > MM-esqe/heavily infuenced by Black Sabbath type band on the Earache > label. Curious to know what they sound like (there was a reference to > them in a Dave Wyndorf of Monster Magnet interview). I've seen them in concert (they opened for Nikwind in '94) and have their CDs "Sleep's Holy Mountain" and "Volume One". I guess I would describe them as heavily influenced by Black Sabbath, only more sludgy. I would recommend them to anyone who is a fan of old Sabbath. Frank -- ============================================================================== Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 It didn't take very much reductio to get right down to absurdum from where you started. --Mike Jones, jonesmd at crd.ge.com From mumford at EUNET.NO Wed Sep 25 11:11:22 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 17:11:22 +0200 Subject: OFF: Fu Manchu Message-ID: Daniel Wikdahl wrote: > > Christian wrote; > > > >Hey, drugs can be good fun - (but you obviously don't need > >drugs to enjoy music, > > Yes, I know that drugs can be fun, I smoke hamp sometimes but I don't feel > that this is a very interresting topic. Something is wrong if you have to > get high to enjoy concerts, parties or whatever... Well, my point was briefly described above - I agree with you. I don't care if the bands > I like uses drugs or not as long as they don't die of it, and their music > becomes history... like Shannon Hohn of "Blind Melon", Curt etc etc etc > > >>they uses Orange amplifiers though :-) > > > >So what does the color of the amps have to do with the sound they > >produce? Daniel, have you been smoking that Swedish Leaf again??? > > Tobacco -yes, other plants -no. Perhaps I should have written 'Swede Leaf' (hint hint...doh!) > The drug laws in Sweden are pretty hysterical and I never do drugs in Sweden. Could they possibly be worse than Norway's jackass drug-laws? > Hell, I think some of the subscribers will laugh at me when I classifies > Cannabis as drugs... ;-) Nicotine is a drug, caffeine, alcohol, sugar, chocolate, just about everything can stimulate us somehow - hell, everything is a chemical process whether you get high or not. Cannabis is just too damned _good_ to be legal up here! We'd rather just kill ourselves on alcohol... > > And in this case the colour has to do with sound. Take a look at Teds mail! > Do want to have a tape? > A tape of Sleep? Or Fu Manchu/Daredevil? Both? I'm interested, but I'm hard pressed for resources right now - I'll get back to you (I can send you Tomas Quick in trade for a 90 tape....) Christian From Chris_Baxley at SONYMUSIC.COM Wed Sep 25 12:36:46 1996 From: Chris_Baxley at SONYMUSIC.COM (Chris Baxley) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 09:36:46 -0700 Subject: OFF: Fu Manchu Message-ID: Christian Mumford wrote: > BTW, has anybody heard of the band Sleep? Apparantly they are a > MM-esqe/heavily infuenced by Black Sabbath type band on the Earache > label. Curious to know what they sound like (there was a reference to > them in a Dave Wyndorf of Monster Magnet interview). When I saw Sleep a couple of years ago, they had bass and guitar amps that looked like they were Orange, except they were Green (both in color and in name), with similar swirly logo and big knobs. These amps were huge (the bass cab was about 5' by 4') and louder than hell. I spoke to a guy in another band (Iommi Stubbs from Portland) who got the scoop on Green amps from Sleep, and was going to order one for himself. I bought their CD (on which was written "If anyone has any Orange equipment to sell, please contact Sleep") and T-shirt, with a glow-in-the-dark drawing of an astronaut smoking a bong on the Moon. Their music is loud and sludgy, with quasi-sci-fi lyrics, sort of a stoner version of the Melvins. Their show did have some excellent films of lunar missions, etc. as a backdrop. I believe Earache (Sony's metal label) has since dissolved, so I don't know what became of them. I think they were from N. California. Chris From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Sep 25 17:48:57 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 17:48:57 BST Subject: HW: Still Kerbcrawling In-Reply-To: Stephen Lindsey's message of Wed, 25 Sep 1996 10:16:28 -0400 Message-ID: Stephen Lindsey writes: > Jeremy Dacombe writes: > > > Kerb Crawler: > > Has anybody checked out if the 2 versions are different? > > Musically I mean, not just the label. > > OK, I've got the Silver one, doesn't say Gilmour (or Brock) > just says 'Produced by Hawkwind' > > So someone send me the other two and I'll compare ;-) ummmm - you could akcherly do me a BIIIGG favour and compare it against the album if you've got that. Having just read what Dave Watson writes about the track in his book I'm now concerned that the Codex may have it wrong as well........ Part of the quote from Simon King reads "Dave Gilmour of the Floyd did some of the remixes, including Kerb Crawler, and we did a lot of them ourselves". oops (note the word remix) update later! jill > Steve L. ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Sep 25 12:59:59 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 17:59:59 +0100 Subject: WTB: Kingston Wall II In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19960925201539.0090fba8@mailbox.mc.hik.se> from "Daniel Wikdahl" at Sep 25, 96 10:15:39 pm Message-ID: > I'll keep my eyes open, but Kalmar is not a very fun town to live in if > you're searching hard-to-get-CDs. Tack sa* mycket--I would definitely appreciate it if anyone can find one of these for me, now or next time the run across one. Wish I had the money to hop across to Stockholm--that space/psych CD store they have there (the name of which I have forgotten) might have a couple left ... Wish I had the money to hop across to Scandinavia _anyway_ :) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Wed Sep 25 13:29:33 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 19:29:33 +0200 Subject: WTB: Kingston Wall II Message-ID: At 17.59 1996-09-25 +0100, you wrote: >> I'll keep my eyes open, but Kalmar is not a very fun town to live in if >> you're searching hard-to-get-CDs. > > Tack sa* mycket--I would definitely appreciate it if anyone >can find one of these for me, now or next time the run across one. > > Wish I had the money to hop across to Stockholm--that space/psych >CD store they have there (the name of which I have forgotten) might >have a couple left ... Mellotronen? I can check them tomorrow - it's time for a monthly update. > Wish I had the money to hop across to Scandinavia _anyway_ :) > >Cheers, >Carl \\joe From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Wed Sep 25 14:06:12 1996 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (Mike Wright) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 19:06:12 +0100 Subject: HW: Gimme shelter Message-ID: If you go to http://www.interlog.com/~cb/vidgim.html you will see a cover (presumably) of the video that was released as part of the Gimme Shelter multiple releases, I didn't think HW were on it, but on the cover it makes claims that they might. Apparently it lasts 45 mins so there is a chance they might sneak on somewhere, but it would surprise me if that no-one here had referred to it. Do we a definite answer that they are not on it (not even in the penumbra of Samatha Fox)? Mike w From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Wed Sep 25 20:34:10 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 02:34:10 +0200 Subject: amp trivia Message-ID: >No shit! Any idea where they were made, and if the new ones are made >by the same folks? >theo > No, I don't know... and now Chris says that they're using Green amplifiers (what the hell is that?)... but I can recall an interview with 'em in a british magazine or MTV Headbangers Ball (I don't remember which it were but it has to be one of those) and they said why they used Orange. I 100% sure of this 'cause when I heard/read this I remembered that Sleep once asked all headbangers in Europe, via Headbangers Ball, if someone had Orange amps for sale... and now I was like "Lucky you, you finally got them". -Daniel (my English really sucks today :-) . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Wed Sep 25 16:05:34 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 15:05:34 EST Subject: amp trivia Message-ID: > >No shit! Any idea where they were made, and if the new ones are made > >by the same folks? > >theo > > > > No, I don't know... and now Chris says that they're using Green amplifier= > s > (what the hell is that?)... but I can recall an interview with 'em in a Well I thought I knew of most major amp lines, but that's news to me. Maybe someone just pulling your joint, or hammer, to you guys! > british magazine or MTV Headbangers Ball (I don't remember which it were = > but > it has to be one of those) and they said why they used Orange. > I 100% sure of this 'cause when I heard/read this I remembered that Sleep > once asked all headbangers in Europe, via Headbangers Ball, if someone ha= > d > Orange amps for sale... and now I was like "Lucky you, you finally got th= > em". > > -Daniel (my English really sucks today :-) > I'm pretty sure the original Orange amps were British, but no idea about the reissues. Same for Vox, though for the price they're charging, I hope they're made in some state of the art facility by enemployed electrical engineers! Hey, why is it the British make such gonzo amps, but never had a truly big-time guitar manufacturer. Burns doesn't really count, does it, not on the scale of Fender, et al/ theo From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Wed Sep 25 16:44:33 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Le Monsieur) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 15:44:33 -0500 Subject: HW: Mike Moorcock's singing (was: SA & CYM) In-Reply-To: <32482CFF.5EDF@student.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Max Wilcox wrote: > On 23 Sep 96 at 0:49, Le Monsieur wrote: > > One thing for sure, though: Mike Moorcock should *NEVER* be > > allowed to sing again, at least not like he 'sang' "Coded > > Languages". > You've obviously never heard "New Worlds Fair"... You are correct, sir. But is that a good thing or a bad thing? Damon Capehart | "As their numbers dwindled from 70 to 8, the aka Le Monsieur | dwarves began to suspect Hungry..." dcapehar at utdallas.edu | From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Wed Sep 25 16:52:35 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Le Monsieur) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 15:52:35 -0500 Subject: HW: Few things In-Reply-To: <199609250744.DAA19394@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Jeremy Dacombe wrote: > Hawklords Live: > The Griffin CD - mine has an annoying 1 second silence about > 20 seconds into Automoton, anybody else's suffer in the > same way? (I'm NOT talking about the power cut in Death Trap) Which song? HLs Live has "25 Years", "High Rise", "Death Trap", Spirit of the Age", "Sonic Attack" and "Over the Top". I don't know anything about a song called "Automoton". Damon Capehart | "As their numbers dwindled from 70 to 8, the aka Le Monsieur | dwarves began to suspect Hungry..." dcapehar at utdallas.edu | From delacour at UNM.EDU Wed Sep 25 17:59:37 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 15:59:37 -0600 Subject: BOC: Greg Scott says OK In-Reply-To: <9060260B20@hawk.syr.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Ted Jackson jr. EL 84 wrote: > > And to think, I did not take 3 months to reply to the many requests for > > his number!!! I like picking on you, Theo ( Ted O. Jackson)!!! > > > > God bless... > > > > Manuel & > > > Manuel, > You've already got my number! > theo > Theo; Yes, I may have your number, but I still don't have the Worcester '82 tape! Got ya again!! Ha, Ha... Manuel & Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Thu Sep 26 00:16:47 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 06:16:47 +0200 Subject: OFF: Fu Manchu Message-ID: I wrote: >> The drug laws in Sweden are pretty hysterical and I never do drugs in Sweden. Christian wrote; >Could they possibly be worse than Norway's jackass drug-laws? > I think they are pretty much the same. In our countries the governments think they have to protect us from ourself. >> Hell, I think some of the subscribers will laugh at me when I classifies >> Cannabis as drugs... ;-) > >Nicotine is a drug, caffeine, alcohol, sugar, chocolate, just about >everything can stimulate us somehow - hell, everything is a chemical >process whether you get high or not. Cannabis is just too damned _good_ >to be legal up here! We'd rather just kill ourselves on alcohol... > Mmmm, beeeeeeeeer... that's the way I'm going to die... and it's legal too :-) But this is something you have to consider; in alcohol there is only one substance that affects your mind, the alcohol itself (etanol) and in Cannabis there is over hundred active substances... I leave the queastion opened if that's a good or a bad thing... ;-) > >A tape of Sleep? Or Fu Manchu/Daredevil? Both? I'm interested, but I'm >hard pressed for resources right now - I'll get back to you (I can send >you Tomas Quick in trade for a 90 tape....) > > Just mail me when you think you R ready 2 Rock... but I don't want Tomas Quick in trade... and as a matter of fact -I don't think he's in Norway any longer... so how could you send him to me then... HAH!!! :-) -Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Thu Sep 26 00:25:30 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 06:25:30 +0200 Subject: OFF: Fu Manchu Message-ID: Cris wrote about Sleep; > > I believe Earache (Sony's metal label) has since dissolved, so I don't > know what became of them. > I think they were from N. California. > Oh, I always thought they were British... was Holy Mountain their first and Volume One their second CD (this makes sense if you have listened to Sleep)? I wonder 'cause I know that I read somewhere AFTER I'd bought "Holy Mountain" Sleep were going to release a new CD soon... so if Volume One really is avolume one then there could be three Sleep CD's just waiting to be bought... :-) -Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Thu Sep 26 00:27:36 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 06:27:36 +0200 Subject: WTB: Kingston Wall II Message-ID: Carl wrote; > Wish I had the money to hop across to Stockholm--that space/psych >CD store they have there (the name of which I have forgotten) might >have a couple left ... > Wish I had the money to hop across to Scandinavia _anyway_ :) > Yep, it's nice here no pot and other dangerous stuff anywhere ;-) -Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Wed Sep 25 18:35:47 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:35:47 -0400 Subject: OFF: Fu Manchu Message-ID: Daniel muses: >But this is something you have to consider; in alcohol there is only one >substance that affects your mind, the alcohol itself (etanol) and in... Really?? Have you never drunk Jaegermeister? ;-) Cheers Martyn From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Thu Sep 26 01:07:25 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 07:07:25 +0200 Subject: OFF: Fu Manchu Message-ID: At 06:35 PM 9/25/96 -0400, you wrote: >Daniel muses: > >>But this is something you have to consider; in alcohol there is only one >>substance that affects your mind, the alcohol itself (etanol) and in... Martyn writes, > Really?? Have you never drunk Jaegermeister? ;-) > I have! Now I understand why I enjoyed it so much. ;-) And what about Absint? I have never drunk it but I have heard some interresting things about it... Are you a Med-student? Then you could tell us some more... -Daniel > > "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Thu Sep 26 01:17:59 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 07:17:59 +0200 Subject: WTB: Kingston Wall II Message-ID: Carl wrote; >> Wish I had the money to hop across to Stockholm--that space/psych >>CD store they have there (the name of which I have forgotten) might >>have a couple left ... Joe wrote; >Mellotronen? >I can check them tomorrow - it's time for a monthly update. > I writes; Joe, can you check what Hawkwind CD's they have too... and do you know if they have mail-order... otherwhise maybe you could help me... ? Or is there any mail-order company in Sweden that has HW CD's in their catalogues? -Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 26 02:56:04 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 02:56:04 BST Subject: HW: Mike Moorcock's singing (was: SA & CYM) In-Reply-To: Le Monsieur's message of Wed, 25 Sep 1996 15:44:33 -0500 Message-ID: Le Monsieur writes: > On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Max Wilcox wrote: > > On 23 Sep 96 at 0:49, Le Monsieur wrote: > > > One thing for sure, though: Mike Moorcock should *NEVER* be > > > allowed to sing again, at least not like he 'sang' "Coded > > > Languages". > > You've obviously never heard "New Worlds Fair"... > > You are correct, sir. But is that a good thing or a bad thing? It's a sad thing if you've never heard "Rolling In The Ruins" aka "Dude's Dream" - best track on the album IMO. ('....and I didn't like the way your shoulder peeled last night / and the bombs destroy the houses and the bombs uproot the trees / and I saw my children carried off on a strange bright breeze'). There is absolutely no other person who could possibly sing that song and give it the depths of irony and humour that the track holds. Amazing. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Sep 25 22:36:59 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 22:36:59 -0400 Subject: OFF: drugs Message-ID: In a message dated 96-09-22 05:44:43 EDT, you write: >Haven't tried it yet, but my bro has got some. > >Jerry 'cannabis sativa hollandia Been eatin em all summer---very tasty indeed regards, Bill Stewart From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Sep 25 23:00:31 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 23:00:31 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: drugs Message-ID: In a message dated 96-09-24 11:19:24 EDT, you write: > One night this German girl eats some >datura. Again, she loses it big time, thrashing about, screaming etc. >Her friend was baby-sitting, so after a while my friend goes off to >sleep somewhere. He woke up a bit later with this girl astride him and >her bare ass *just* about to land on his face! > > and this is bad...right? regards, Bill Stewart From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Wed Sep 25 22:09:31 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:09:31 +1100 Subject: HW: Kadu Flyer Message-ID: Hey All, Does anyone on the list know if Chris Bruce has an email account? Sonique ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: JessChef at aol.com Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:56:38 -0400 To: sonique at hyme.pcmicro.com.au Subject: Re: Hawkwind Do you have a Internet adress for the Kadu flyer. the Hawkfan club in Cambridge Mass. Chris is a old friend of mine and we have not had a chance to communicate for years. It would be very nice if I could supprise him with some E-Mail thanks Jess -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Wed Sep 25 10:53:25 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 01:53:25 +1100 Subject: HW: Mike Moorcock's singing (was: SA & CYM) Message-ID: Le Monsieur wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Max Wilcox wrote: > > On 23 Sep 96 at 0:49, Le Monsieur wrote: > > > One thing for sure, though: Mike Moorcock should *NEVER* be > > > allowed to sing again, at least not like he 'sang' "Coded > > > Languages". > > You've obviously never heard "New Worlds Fair"... > > You are correct, sir. But is that a good thing or a bad thing? Well....As I think has be said before, if you like Moorcock you tend to REALY like Moorcock (at least in my experience), and if you don't - you realy don't. This being said, I would recomend New Worlds Fair to every creature on the planet. On this album, there is no Elric to be seen, no edge of time sort of stuff, in fact it only mentions space on one song. I even think he's quite a competent singer on most of the songs, though they see to vary in quality a little. Anyway, this comes from a large Moorcock fan, so I guess it's probably to be expected... -Max Wilcox From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Thu Sep 26 00:24:42 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 06:24:42 +0200 Subject: HW: Few things Message-ID: >> Hawklords Live: >> The Griffin CD - mine has an annoying 1 second silence about >> 20 seconds into Automoton, anybody else's suffer in the >> same way? (I'm NOT talking about the power cut in Death Trap) > >Which song? HLs Live has "25 Years", "High Rise", "Death Trap", Spirit of >the Age", "Sonic Attack" and "Over the Top". I don't know anything about >a song called "Automoton". the first 45 seconds of the CD is 'Automotion' - then '25 years' begins while 'Automotion' continues and fade out 20 seconds later. No - no annoying silence on either my Griffin or Dojo copy. >Damon Capehart | "As their numbers dwindled from 70 to 8, the \\joe From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Thu Sep 26 00:24:45 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 06:24:45 +0200 Subject: WTB: Kingston Wall II Message-ID: > Joe wrote; >>Mellotronen? >>I can check them tomorrow - it's time for a monthly update. >> >I writes; > >Joe, can you check what Hawkwind CD's they have too... and do you know if >they have mail-order... otherwhise maybe you could help me... ? >Or is there any mail-order company in Sweden that has HW CD's in their >catalogues? They use to have a bulk of 40-60 HW CD's. If I could find *one* of the main releases here, I'll let you know. Ginza use to have a few items in their catalouge, but the rule for a newbie is as usual: DON'T BUY ANYTHING WITHOUT DOUBLE CHECKING. Or the odds is very good that you'll end up with some Kollektors Only stuff. And that uses to be the last hw item the newbie buys. > -Daniel \\joe From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Thu Sep 26 02:55:52 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Le Monsieur) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 01:55:52 -0500 Subject: HW: Few things In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960926062622.1dc7af3a@eka.ericsson.se> Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Johan Edlundh wrote: > Damon wrote: > > The original query was: > > > The Griffin CD - mine has an annoying 1 second silence about > > > 20 seconds into Automoton, anybody else's suffer in the > > > same way? (I'm NOT talking about the power cut in Death Trap) > > > > Which song? HLs Live has "25 Years", "High Rise", "Death Trap", > > Spirit of the Age", "Sonic Attack" and "Over the Top". I don't know > > anything about a song called "Automoton". > The first 45 seconds of the CD is 'Automotion' - then '25 years' begins > while 'Automotion' continues and fade out 20 seconds later. > No - no annoying silence on either my Griffin or Dojo copy. Oh... in that case, no dropout on mine either... Damon "You get so much mucho, for not very much-o" Capehart From mumford at EUNET.NO Thu Sep 26 03:35:56 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:35:56 +0200 Subject: OFF: Absinth (was: Fu Manchu) Message-ID: Daniel Wikdahl wrote: > > At 06:35 PM 9/25/96 -0400, you wrote: > >Daniel muses: > > > >>But this is something you have to consider; in alcohol there is only one > >>substance that affects your mind, the alcohol itself (etanol) and in... > Martyn writes, > > > Really?? Have you never drunk Jaegermeister? ;-) > > > I have! Now I understand why I enjoyed it so much. ;-) > And what about Absint? I have never drunk it but I have heard some > interresting things about it... > Are you a Med-student? Then you could tell us some more... > ' I had Absinth for the first time awhile back, a friend of mine had bought a bottle of it in the Czech Rep, I believe. It was green and tasted similar to Arrack. I got more high than drunk on it, well a weird kind of drunk anyway. After we'd finished off what he had we were craving more of the stuff - but we couldn't bring ourselves to drink the homebrew I had with me.... I understand Absinth attacks your nervous system somehow (as opposed to...?). Perhaps the toxicologist on this list could enlighten us? I understand it's outlawed everywhere except Portugal and Czech Rep, at least in Europe. Christian From dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM Thu Sep 26 03:57:58 1996 From: dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM (Jeremy Dacombe) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 03:57:58 EDT Subject: HW: Live 78 Message-ID: --- Received from LIMEMO1.DACOMBJ 4709 26/09/96 08.51 -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBMMAIL INTERNET GATEWAY INTERNET Hi, OK, so my Griffin copy of HAWKLORDS LIVE, seems to be a one off bummer with the dropout during Automoton. Anybody interested in purchasing this item before I return it to the shop I got it from? Jez From tox at WJH.HARVARD.EDU Thu Sep 26 04:14:08 1996 From: tox at WJH.HARVARD.EDU (Tox) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 04:14:08 -0400 Subject: OFF: Absinth (was: Fu Manchu) In-Reply-To: <324A325C.2D57@eunet.no> Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Christian Mumford wrote: > I had Absinth for the first time awhile back, a friend of mine had > bought a bottle of it in the Czech Rep, I believe. It was green and > tasted similar to Arrack. I got more high than drunk on it, well a weird > kind of drunk anyway. After we'd finished off what he had we were > craving more of the stuff - but we couldn't bring ourselves to drink the > homebrew I had with me.... I understand Absinth attacks your nervous > system somehow (as opposed to...?). Perhaps the toxicologist on this > list could enlighten us? I understand it's outlawed everywhere except > Portugal and Czech Rep, at least in Europe. > I believe that the active ingredient (aside from ethanol) is thujone, which is imparted by the wormwood. Pernod, which is basically absinthe without wormwood, contains no thujone. Not a toxicologist, just Tox From mumford at EUNET.NO Thu Sep 26 04:47:47 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 10:47:47 +0200 Subject: OFF: Absinth (was: Fu Manchu) Message-ID: Tox wrote: > > I believe that the active ingredient (aside from ethanol) is thujone, > which is imparted by the wormwood. Pernod, which is basically absinthe > without wormwood, contains no thujone. > > Not a toxicologist, just Tox So the wormwood must be the green color. What does the wormwood plant look like? (Say, is it possible to make Absinth by soaking wormwood in Pernod?) Christian From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 26 09:42:04 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 09:42:04 BST Subject: HW: Gimme shelter In-Reply-To: Mike Wright's message of Wed, 25 Sep 1996 19:06:12 +0100 Message-ID: Mike Wright writes: > If you go to > http://www.interlog.com/~cb/vidgim.html > you will see a cover (presumably) of the video that was released as part > of the Gimme Shelter multiple releases, I didn't think HW were on it, but > on the cover it makes claims that they might. Apparently it lasts 45 mins > so there is a chance they might sneak on somewhere, but it would surprise > me if that no-one here had referred to it. Do we a definite answer that > they are not on it (not even in the penumbra of Samatha Fox)? There's an interview featuring Richard and Sa, but no footage of the band playing. > Mike w FoFP From dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM Thu Sep 26 04:59:14 1996 From: dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM (Jeremy Dacombe) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 04:59:14 EDT Subject: HW: Web Pages Message-ID: --- Received from LIMEMO1.DACOMBJ 4709 26/09/96 09.57 --- Received from LES.DACOMBJ 4709 26/09/96 08.40 -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBMMAIL INTERNET GATEWAY INTERNET Hi, Is anybody collating a list of all the HW related WEB pages? If so I'd love a copy please. Specifically, what was the Brocky interview one mentioned earlier this week? Jez From mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK Thu Sep 26 10:02:05 1996 From: mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK (Mike Parkington) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 10:02:05 +-100 Subject: OFF: Absinth (was: Fu Manchu) Message-ID: See http://alpha.rollanet.org/library/absfaq.html Full details of Absinthe. Mike P ---------- From: Christian Mumford[SMTP:mumford at EUNET.NO] Sent: Thursday, September 26, 1996 09:47 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: OFF: Absinth (was: Fu Manchu) Tox wrote: > > I believe that the active ingredient (aside from ethanol) is thujone, > which is imparted by the wormwood. Pernod, which is basically absinthe > without wormwood, contains no thujone. > > Not a toxicologist, just Tox So the wormwood must be the green color. What does the wormwood plant look like? (Say, is it possible to make Absinth by soaking wormwood in Pernod?) 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N(9 $D01P,9!)IV+U1R%C!T!L2M =42 321C^:2 P M"& %0$LV,9 %H (P?PMQ!"!($$B&(&9#MD2 at 3K\E4$7 at 15!"L$G %9%G*J&Y M,9!J=3C!0J$>#%-04OU+&" KX#C!,A!%HPG#3Z'+%:%+L%=% Message-ID: In message <960925230029_111062429 at emout17.mail.aol.com>, Bill Stewart writes >> One night this German girl eats some >>datura. Again, she loses it big time, thrashing about, screaming etc. >>Her friend was baby-sitting, so after a while my friend goes off to >>sleep somewhere. He woke up a bit later with this girl astride him and >>her bare ass *just* about to land on his face! >> >> > >and this is bad...right? > >regards, >Bill Stewart I said the same thing to my friend, and he looked at me soberly and said "Yes, it was a very scary moment, actually!" -- Jon Browne From HELLERS at A1.MGH.HARVARD.EDU Thu Sep 26 07:29:00 1996 From: HELLERS at A1.MGH.HARVARD.EDU (Scott Heller (617) 724-7762) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 06:29:00 -0500 Subject: Kadu Flyer Message-ID: Hello, I am back from copenhagen and england. Had a great trip and got a job offer in denmark! Anyway, about the Kadu Flyer, they say everytime I talk to them that a postcard will come out soon to announce to send stamps for the next flyer, but they never have the money to print up the postcard. Mary's mom is very sick, so i don't see it happening anytime soon. As for e-mail, chris does not have an account anymore (was on AOL). If you have a short message I can relay it to them. Scott ObCs- Ozrics- Brixton 21/6/96 From HELLERS at A1.MGH.HARVARD.EDU Thu Sep 26 07:32:00 1996 From: HELLERS at A1.MGH.HARVARD.EDU (Scott Heller (617) 724-7762) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 06:32:00 -0500 Subject: HW:Absinthe Message-ID: On the subject of absinthe, my wife makes this at home and it is quite tasty. It is a very simply recipe: anise fennel wormwood mellissa hyssop 85% ethanol (diluted to a final of 70% when finished) The wormwood is a brown branchy type herb and does not impart any green color. Although tujone is the active ingredient that is supose to cause the brain damage, we beleive that it is really the high alcohol content that really gets you... The tujone concentration is not all that high. It may alo be that the wormwood we get here in the US has a lower tujone content as well. Scott obCs- Govt' Mule- Atlanta 12/4/96 From Olivier_Boigey at TECHLINK.FR Thu Sep 26 08:45:26 1996 From: Olivier_Boigey at TECHLINK.FR (Olivier Boigey) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 12:45:26 GMT Subject: HW: Still Kerbcrawling Message-ID: To be exhaustive, Nick Mason - from Pink Floyd - produced Steve Hillage's "Green" in 1978 Olivier Via HOLY GALACTIC IMPERIUM ++ - sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered). From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Thu Sep 26 07:49:43 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 07:49:43 -0400 Subject: Live 78 Message-ID: Save yourself the trip. Mine has the drop-out also and I think everyone else's' does, too. I think that it was a problem in the master tape, but not 100% sure about that anymore.... Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com ---------- From: Jeremy Dacombe[SMTP:dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM] Sent: Thursday, September 26, 1996 3:57 AM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: HW: Live 78 --- Received from LIMEMO1.DACOMBJ 4709 26/09/96 08.51 -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBMMAIL INTERNET GATEWAY INTERNET Hi, OK, so my Griffin copy of HAWKLORDS LIVE, seems to be a one off bummer with the dropout during Automoton. Anybody interested in purchasing this item before I return it to the shop I got it from? Jez -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1783 bytes Desc: not available URL: From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Sep 26 08:21:58 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:21:58 +0100 Subject: HW: Web Pages In-Reply-To: <199609260859.EAA29986@listserv.spc.edu> from "Jeremy Dacombe" at Sep 26, 96 04:59:14 am Message-ID: > Is anybody collating a list of all the HW related WEB pages? > If so I'd love a copy please. Sonique may have--either way this is one of those things which will eventually go on my own embryonic Hawkfrendz page (to be updated in the next month or so). > Specifically, what was the Brocky interview one mentioned earlier > this week? That's at the official Hawkwind site. There are links to both of these (Sonique's and the official site) of the links page at my WWW site (address in my .sig). Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From chrisr at TIAC.NET Thu Sep 26 08:32:23 1996 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 08:32:23 -0400 Subject: HW - Live 1978 Message-ID: With the initial release of of Hawklords Live in 1992, it had the annoying silence. I remember that Griffin was offering to replace the CDs at no charge. I kept mine anyway. That was the last Hawk CD I bought that came with the longbox packaging. Also an opinion, I really love Moorcock's contribution, not just to the Sonic Attack album, but all of his HW performances heard thus far. Chris Ob- HW track - Warriors On The Edge Of Time (Out And Intake) From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Sep 26 08:30:22 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:30:22 +0100 Subject: WTB: Kingston Wall II In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960925193113.1e1751e0@eka.ericsson.se> from "Johan Edlundh" at Sep 25, 96 07:29:33 pm Message-ID: > > Wish I had the money to hop across to Stockholm--that space/psych > >CD store they have there (the name of which I have forgotten) might > >have a couple left ... > > Mellotronen? > I can check them tomorrow - it's time for a monthly update. Tack igen! :) Yes, Mellotronen, that's the one I was thinking of. I've been scouring Usenet for a copy without much success so far. Scott Heller brought me a cassette copy when he visited (thanks again, Scott!) but having heard it I really need to find a CD version from somewhere. I could see myself wearing out the cassette in short order ;) By the way, any word on what's happening in the DarXtar camp? I'll have to check Henri and Sonique's pages .... Still waiting for a UK tour ;) :) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Sep 26 08:36:08 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:36:08 +0100 Subject: HW - Live 1978 In-Reply-To: <324A77D7.1A23@tiac.net> from "Chris Raymond" at Sep 26, 96 08:32:23 am Message-ID: > With the initial release of of Hawklords Live in 1992, it had the > annoying silence. I remember that Griffin was offering to replace the > CDs at no charge. I kept mine anyway. That was the last Hawk CD I > bought that came with the longbox packaging. Hmmm, I guess I have that too then, though I never listened to it so much that I noticed! :} Cheers, Carl ********************************************************************** Carl Edlund Anderson ASNAC Dept, U of Cambridge cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk ********************************************************************** From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Sep 25 13:15:04 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:15:04 +0100 Subject: OFF: Fu Manchu In-Reply-To: <32492FB4.3633@eunet.no> Message-ID: In message <32492FB4.3633 at eunet.no>, Christian Mumford writes >So what does the color of the amps have to do with the sound they >produce? Daniel, have you been smoking that Swedish Leaf again??? > >Christian "Orange" was or is a brand of amp, Chris, a they make a bastard good sound too. Bloody heavy, though! Here & Now used to use one and it took three of us to carry it. Getting it upstairs was always fun! -- Jon Browne From mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK Thu Sep 26 14:45:37 1996 From: mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK (Mike Parkington) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:45:37 +-100 Subject: OFF: Fu Manchu Message-ID: Bloody hell, Here and now, casual beachwear, that takes me back. What was their "signature tune?" I am sure I used to have one of their albums, bit like Chemical Alice but Alice were later. Mike P. ---------- From: Jon Browne[SMTP:jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 1996 06:15 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: OFF: Fu Manchu In message <32492FB4.3633 at eunet.no>, Christian Mumford writes >So what does the color of the amps have to do with the sound they >produce? Daniel, have you been smoking that Swedish Leaf again??? > >Christian "Orange" was or is a brand of amp, Chris, a they make a bastard good sound too. Bloody heavy, though! Here & Now used to use one and it took three of us to carry it. 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Getting it upstairs was always fun! > -- > Jon Browne > Don't know if I should say the O-word, but Oasis (aaarrggh!) use Orange amps. bye - Rob From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Thu Sep 26 11:10:11 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:10:11 -0400 Subject: OFF: Fu Manchu Message-ID: Rob says: > Don't know if I should say the O-word, but Oasis (aaarrggh!) use > Orange amps. > > bye - Rob I thought the arrogant Mancunian bastards had split up Martyn From mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK Thu Sep 26 16:21:32 1996 From: mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK (Mike Parkington) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:21:32 +-100 Subject: OFF: Fu Manchu Message-ID: But they are a bunch of arrogant knob-heads. I heard they were blown off the stage by Kula Shaker recently. God I hope that is true. Incidentally the Kula Shaker album 'K' is bloody good if a little mainstream. Well worth a listen. Mike P ---------- From: Rob[SMTP:etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE] Sent: Thursday, September 26, 1996 04:26 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: OFF: Fu Manchu > > "Orange" was or is a brand of amp, Chris, a they make a bastard good > sound too. Bloody heavy, though! Here & Now used to use one and it took > three of us to carry it. 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Having just read what Dave Watson writes >about the track in his book I'm now concerned that the Codex may have it >wrong as well........ I haven't been following this thread that closely. Which album is that song on? I thought I remembered it being on Hawklords, unfortunately I don't have the album here to check and the tape I made of it is hiding on me. Jerry ----------------------------------------------------------- jguizar at epix.net ----------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Thu Sep 26 17:26:59 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:26:59 BST Subject: HW: Still Kerbcrawling In-Reply-To: Jerry Guizar's message of Thu, 26 Sep 1996 11:57:46 -0400 Message-ID: Jerry Guizar writes: > >> > Kerb Crawler: > >> > Has anybody checked out if the 2 versions are different? > >> > Musically I mean, not just the label. > > I haven't been following this thread that closely. Which album is that > song on? I thought I remembered it being on Hawklords, unfortunately I > don't have the album here to check and the tape I made of it is hiding on > me. Nope - it's on Astounding Sounds - but I don't think there's going to be a problem. I haven't managed to get hold of the other versions yet but a comparison of CD with album and with one of vinyl 7" versions reveals that all are absolutely identical in every way. The single was, in fact, released before the album so what Simon King was saying about the re-mixing must relate to their original ideas for the LP. When it was finally released the LP contained the single 7" version of Kerb Crawler and this is the version mixed by Dave Gilmour. In fact my CD insert even acknowledges this on the listings inside. I think we can fairly confidently assume that there are *no* alternative versions of Kerb Crawler and that the version available is the Dave Gilmour mix. Any earlier versions (without the brass and without the chick vocals) will have been consigned to the bin along with the early cuts for the album, I guess. Apparently Bob Calvert would play trumpet along with Nik Turner on sax when this track was done live on stage. jill obVideoDiscovery> Sapphire and Steel ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From henrik.hallgren at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM Thu Sep 26 12:33:29 1996 From: henrik.hallgren at SUNDSVALL.MAIL.TELIA.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:33:29 +0200 Subject: Kingston wall Message-ID: Hi there Carl, joe and Daniel! Great to hear that people outside Scandinavia have heard of Kingston wall. They was one of the better bands on the European rock-scene. According to Santtu of Dark sun the CD?s are very hard to find but you never know? The finnish music-scene is very active with plenty of great bands in the prog-field. Concerning HW-CD?s in Stockholm, why not try Mega Skivadademin, must be the largest musicstore in Scandinavia. Last time I was there they had almost everything HW done on CD. See you soon Joe! btw. CDspelaren g?r varm just nu med du vet vad ;-). -- ========================================================== "We were born to go / As far as we can fly / Turn electric dreams / Into reality" Henrik Hallgren, Stapelv?gen 5, 856 34 Sundsvall, Sweden Email: henrik.hallgren at sundsvall.mail.telia.com / henrik.hallgren at ortv.sca.se Phone/fax: 46-60-173716 From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Thu Sep 26 13:19:55 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:19:55 -0400 Subject: HW: Live 78 In-Reply-To: <199609260758.DAA29539@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Jeremy Dacombe wrote: > Hi, > OK, so my Griffin copy of HAWKLORDS LIVE, seems to be a one > off bummer with the dropout during Automoton. > Anybody interested in purchasing this item before I return it > to the shop I got it from? I have this nagging (choir of) memory that my (Griffin) copy of the CD also has a momentary dropout during that piece. Alas, it is across the ocean right now, so I can't play it to check. :-( Cheers, Paul. obCD: Frank Zappa, _The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Thu Sep 26 14:49:03 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:49:03 -0500 Subject: OFF: Gong 25th Birthday (was: Vinyl remasters?) Message-ID: On 24-SEP-1996 15:33:32.7 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, M Holmes wrote: >> Peeve: I still don't have a tape of Blake's solo spot from the Gong >25th > Anniversary reunion. Apparently he played a kickin' version of >NJ there. >That reminds me... the liner notes for Gong's 25th Birthday Party album >say something to the effect of, "Coming soon: another live album of the >rest of the birthday gig, featuring Here & Now, Tim Blake, [whoever else >was there]. Look for it!" ...or something like that. >What ever became of this? Did it ever come out? >Damon Capehart | "As their numbers dwindled from 70 to 8, the >aka Le Monsieur | dwarves began to suspect Hungry..." >dcapehar at utdallas.edu | This reminds me, I saw a home video recently of Tim Blake, w/Pressurehed as "Special Guest", the video was titled something like "A Night Of Psychedelia". It was only priced around 15 dollars, but it still looked bootleggish and, of course, didn't list any songs. Anyone here know anything about this? Chuck `[1;34;45mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Thu Sep 26 14:49:11 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:49:11 -0500 Subject: OFF: Fu Manchu Message-ID: On 25-SEP-1996 03:33:33.6 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >BTW, has anybody heard of the band Sleep? Apparantly they are a >MM-esqe/heavily infuenced by Black Sabbath type band on the Earache >label. Curious to know what they sound like (there was a reference to >them in a Dave Wyndorf of Monster Magnet interview). >Christian Of all the bands that have ever attempted to clone Sabbath, Sleep have come the closest. Actually, vocals aside, their music is exactly on the nose of the early '70s Sabbath era. So much so that it's almost pointless to listen to, except as a novelty... Chuck `[1;31;40mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Thu Sep 26 14:49:24 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:49:24 -0500 Subject: HW: Few things Message-ID: On 25-SEP-1996 03:46:03.0 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >--- Received from LIMEMO1.DACOMBJ 4709 25/09/96 08.42 >-> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBMMAIL INTERNET GATEWAY INTERNET >Hawklords Live: >The Griffin CD - mine has an annoying 1 second silence about >20 seconds into Automoton, anybody else's suffer in the >same way? (I'm NOT talking about the power cut in Death Trap) Just be glad your Griffin Hawklords CD even HAS "Atomoton", mine doesn't... Chuck `[1;32;44mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Thu Sep 26 14:49:34 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:49:34 -0500 Subject: HW: Few things Message-ID: On 26-SEP-1996 00:29:26.5 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >>> Hawklords Live: >>> The Griffin CD - mine has an annoying 1 second silence about >>> 20 seconds into Automoton, anybody else's suffer in the >>> same way? (I'm NOT talking about the power cut in Death Trap) >> >>Which song? HLs Live has "25 Years", "High Rise", "Death Trap", >Spirit of >the Age", "Sonic Attack" and "Over the Top". I don't know >anything about >a song called "Automoton". >the first 45 seconds of the CD is 'Automotion' - then '25 years' begins >while 'Automotion' continues and fade out 20 seconds later. Well, if this first 45 seconds of music is "Automation" (or "Automoton"), that's fine (I just figured it was an intro), but it doesn't seem to fade, the opening riff of 25 starts afluttering, and it segues, but I don't hear a fade... Chuck `[1;32;47mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Thu Sep 26 14:59:42 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 14:59:42 -0400 Subject: OFF: Rush - Test for Echo Message-ID: Since BOC-L seems to be mostly discussing off-topic stuff these days, I figure I can start a new thread... Has anyone heard Rush's new album, *Test for Echo*? Very cool stuff - has a nice edge to it (for Rush), and is much less synth-oriented than alot of the stuff they put out in the 80s. On a related note, I recently read a BOC concert review from back around '76 or '77 -- Rush opened for them. The reviewer was NOT impressed in the least with Rush, and predicted that they would soon be a thing of the past. Almost 20 years later, Rush is still going strong... John From uriah at HERMITAGE.RU Thu Sep 26 15:07:50 1996 From: uriah at HERMITAGE.RU (Yuri Elik) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:07:50 +0400 Subject: OFF: Gong 25th Birthday (was: Vinyl remasters?) Message-ID: Le Monsieur wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, M Holmes wrote: > > Peeve: I still don't have a tape of Blake's solo spot from the Gong 25th > > Anniversary reunion. Apparently he played a kickin' version of NJ there. > > That reminds me... the liner notes for Gong's 25th Birthday Party album > say something to the effect of, "Coming soon: another live album of the > rest of the birthday gig, featuring Here & Now, Tim Blake, [whoever else > was there]. Look for it!" ...or something like that. > > What ever became of this? Did it ever come out? Well, I have found a '95 GAS booklet in my place, and in the "Short Range Plans" department it was written: 25th Birthday Party Too - Various (GAS/Voiceprint 103) Spring 96 The best of all oter bands that appeared at Gong's 25th Birthday Party. Kevin Ayers, Fluvius, Shortwave, Mothergong, Shapeshifter Gong, Tim Blake and all. But I also haven't heard if they have put it out yet. Seems the didn't do it in spring :) Yuri From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Thu Sep 26 16:20:21 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:20:21 EST Subject: OFF: Rush - Test for Echo Message-ID: > Since BOC-L seems to be mostly discussing off-topic stuff these days, I > figure I can start a new thread... > > Has anyone heard Rush's new album, *Test for Echo*? Very cool stuff - > has a nice edge to it (for Rush), and is much less synth-oriented than > alot of the stuff they put out in the 80s. > God, are the vocals any better? Or the lyrics? If Rush just played instrumentals, I'd think they were amazing, but the second Geddy opens his mouth...And it's too bad 'cause he's generally considered one of the nicest people in the biz, and a great bass player. > On a related note, I recently read a BOC concert review from back around > '76 or '77 -- Rush opened for them. The reviewer was NOT impressed in the > least with Rush, and predicted that they would soon be a thing of the past. > Almost 20 years later, Rush is still going strong... > > John Well, no accounting for taste! I saw at least one show on that tour, and BOC were about as great as can be imagined, their zenith, I'd argue, though a case could be made for Spectres-era show with lasers, etc. Don't think they were doing that yet in 76, but maybe 77? theo From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Sep 26 13:11:22 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:11:22 +0100 Subject: OFF : Jill's Ob In-Reply-To: <9609261726.aa24521@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> Message-ID: In message <9609261726.aa24521 at uk.ac.ed.tattoo>, J Strobridge writes >jill > >obVideoDiscovery> Sapphire and Steel Neither of which are elements thus destroying the whole plot before we've even started. But wait till you meet Jet :)) -- Jon Browne From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Sep 26 11:01:11 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:01:11 +0100 Subject: HW : New Hawkeye Message-ID: Ade just dropped in the shop, with the delayed-at-the-printers Discog. and the new Hawkeye. Looks good, review to follow. First time I've met the bloke. Nice chap. Natch I mentioned BOC-L, he remembered meeting you, Bill, on a train to one of the gigs this summer. Small world, eh? -- Jon Browne From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Thu Sep 26 19:12:25 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:12:25 EST Subject: Possible Dave Brock/Richard connection Message-ID: NOTE-- This appeared pn the Richard Thompson List. Thought you all would get a kick... theo I was looking over the BEAT THE RETREAT (the RT tribute album) CD slipcase yesterday and came across a name I didn't expect to see at all in the "thanks to" section (which is huge), that of Dave Brock. If it's the Dave Brock I'm thinking of, he's the captain of the starship Hawkwind, the grandfathers of the "space rock" movement (such as it is), a band with more lineup changes than Fairport (if that's possible), though unlike Simon Nicol, Brock's been in *every* version of the Hawkwind. So despite the fact that Brock and Thompson are about as far apart musically as I can imagine (cerebral "folk-rock" singer-songwriter vs. primitive, apocalyptic space-sludge with cornball lyrics by people like Michael Moorcock (as well as the genuinely talented and alas, departed, Robert Calvert)), why on earth would BTR thank him? I noticed that there are several other musicians on the the "thanks to" list who DON'T appear on the album itself, so perhaps these are people who wanted to contribute, or did and didn't make the final cut, etc. If so, which song could Dave Brock have possibly done? The mind reels. "Madness of Love" might work as a kind of outer space rave-up. Maybe it's a different Dave Brock. Any ideas? From martinp at INFORAMP.NET Thu Sep 26 18:48:22 1996 From: martinp at INFORAMP.NET (MartinPopoff) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:48:22 -0400 Subject: OFF: Rush - Test for Euthanasia Message-ID: Hey Johnny, 'Fraid I have to disagree heartily! Here's my review that will show up in the new book. Plus one review of something I think really has "edge" Martin Rush - Test For Echo (Anthem '96) Mauve over, Rush has another record ready, Test For Pulse, I mean Test For Echo reversing the jets on the moderately sparkly Counterparts opus, comfortably refitting Rush amongst the has-beens of creativity. So what we get is somewherez between the band's worst record and fourth worst, a dreary mess of fragile guitar, bass and doldrums, o'ertop which Lee deadpans some of Peart's most juvenile and pretentious lyrics yet, cute and snobbed beyond belief, songs about dog time, Internet love and the various meanings of <169>driving<170> and the concept of <169>half<170> mucking forth in compositional collapse, cheap pun punching metaphor, trite observation chafing cliche. Yeah, Rush doesn't show off instrumentally anymore, but they make sure arrangements confuse the pants off their Trek-face fanbase, cramming in boring riffs and unaggressive rigging in quick succession much like Maiden, editting nothing like Zappa. But of course there's no real metal. Anytime Lifeson plays, he's halfways to unplugged, browning-out all heartless attempts at guitar rock so we can uh, hear the words. Dead identical to yer Roll The Bones or Presto, Rush surprisingly and stupidly consistent since '87 in creating smothered, toneless production values that accomplish the dubious math of making Rush a power trio of equal sixths: one half the band they once were and twice the annoyance. Rating 5 Samael - Passage (Century Media '96) Sparkling and alone in the world of orchestral death metal (orchestral by way of deceptive layered keyboards), Samael have entered a rarified realm indeed. Brothers Vorph and Xy have fine-tuned their duties, really for the first time weaving deeply all those chivalrous keyboard arcings and drum programming (apparently these aren't live drums, but you'd never know it: the drum parts are convincing and absolutely stunning) into an aristocratic attack that just might take this band beyond the likes of Amorphis, Cemetary and Gorefest in providing the rich cream of extreme metal. Favourites are openers Rain, Shining Kingdom and closer A Man In Your Head, which whip into a frosty froth, expert moves from grindcore through traditional NWOBHM ideas, all slathered with the history-rich moves of Deep Purple. So what results is a masterpiece that is gothic on at least four levels: the '70s, the '80s, the '90s and gothic new wave, Samael having no problem touching each imposing composition with electronics far from metal, before sending many of these rippers through prog terrain, always cognizant of elegance and the sturdy rules of song. Not merely the next tweak in this young band's sound, Passage really marks a leap beyond the trappings of death into a spacier realm (Jupiterian Vibe, Moonskin, Born Under Saturn), Samael no doubt keeping an eye on the dozen or so other creative death metal forces that have made this shift. An astonishing and stirring pageant of heavy, heavy music. Rating 10 Martin Popoff: martinp at inforamp.net Power Chord Press (Riff Kills Man!) P.O. Box 65208, 358 Danforth Ave. Toronto, Ontario M4K 3Z2 From stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM Thu Sep 26 18:54:20 1996 From: stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM (William Stone) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 15:54:20 -0700 Subject: WTB: Kingston Wall II Message-ID: Try Sprockets in Wyandotte Michigan, just outside Detroit. He always carried all 3 cds and does do mailorder, tho he's high as hell pricewise... Wylie From stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM Thu Sep 26 19:01:16 1996 From: stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM (William Stone) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:01:16 -0700 Subject: Datura a mushroom? NOT! Message-ID: > >Wylie, > >I sense you've eaten a few mushrooms. Uh....What on earth would make you say that? :) >Datura is far from being a mushroom. >It's a green leafy plant (I've got 3 in my backyard, kind of a study you >might say) with beautiful white flowers which give way to prickley seed >pods. I stand corrected, sir. I wonder what that shroom was that the kind Norsmen imbibed...? Wylie From stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM Thu Sep 26 19:02:48 1996 From: stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM (William Stone) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:02:48 -0700 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree Message-ID: You wrote: > >Hi Folks... > >Have there been any 'Signify' sightings?? It was supposed to be out today, and >unless I'm mistaken, via simultaneous Delerium (UK) and C&S (US) release. The bloody thing was to be in my hands last Friday. Looks like late this week now... Wylie From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Thu Sep 26 19:03:52 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:03:52 +0200 Subject: Kingston wall Message-ID: >Hi there Carl, joe and Daniel! > >Great to hear that people outside Scandinavia have heard of Kingston >wall. >They was one of the better bands on the European rock-scene. >According to Santtu of Dark sun the CD?s are very hard to find but you >never know? The finnish music-scene is very active with plenty of great >bands in the prog-field. > >Concerning HW-CD?s in Stockholm, why not try Mega Skivadademin, must be >the largest musicstore in Scandinavia. Last time I was there they had >almost everything HW done on CD. nope - no kingston there either... but a lot of expensive hawkstuff. >See you soon Joe! >btw. CDspelaren g?r varm just nu med du vet vad ;-). a:r inte hembra:nneri olagligt? \\joe From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Thu Sep 26 19:03:48 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:03:48 +0200 Subject: darXtar - Was: Kingston Wall II Message-ID: At 13:30 1996-09-26 +0100, you wrote: >> > Wish I had the money to hop across to Stockholm--that space/psych >> >CD store they have there (the name of which I have forgotten) might >> >have a couple left ... >> >> Mellotronen? >> I can check them tomorrow - it's time for a monthly update. > > Tack igen! :) Yes, Mellotronen, that's the one I was thinking >of. I've been scouring Usenet for a copy without much success so far. >Scott Heller brought me a cassette copy when he visited (thanks again, >Scott!) but having heard it I really need to find a CD version from >somewhere. I could see myself wearing out the cassette in short order ;) no luck there - the dude smiled and said it was a *quite* a 'hard to get' item. in despair I bought another Hall of the Mountain Grill LP and Xenon Codex LP - and finally the DigiPak Love in Space... > By the way, any word on what's happening in the DarXtar camp? >I'll have to check Henri and Sonique's pages .... Still waiting for >a UK tour ;) :) this is the commander's words, stolen and edited without permission: ---------------------------------------------------------- No news about the HawXtaR (darXtar/Nik Turner 16/12-95) live CD. We're waiting for a reply from Black Widow regarding the contractual bits and pieces. The edited video should be ready in October (believe it when you see it) in one way or another. DEF records in Australia has begun promotion of Sju, good sales could lead to a licensing deal with them. We're looking for a studio where we can cut the initial part of the new album. Recording will probably begin within a months time. Some work is going on trying to arrange a series of gigs in Sweden and Finland with darXtar/Nik Turner and Finnish band Dark Sun. Would be nice if it could be done. The official SBm sweden homepage is now being constructed. It will inform you about the company and of the technical side of darXtar's music. Other services will include merchandising (with direct sales of some ltd stuff, only on the net) and latest news and we hope to be able to create some sort of review page with comments on other related acts, both live and albums. Feel free to contribute, just mail me! Paul will (of course!) continue to run the official draX site, something we're extremely greatful for! Check: And we're looking for sci-fi artists that can help us with the forthcoming lyric book - is there anyone out there? --------------------------------------------------- and Paul is of course Sonique who runs both the official draX www site, and the draX mailing list... >Cheers, >Carl cheers - \\joe From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Thu Sep 26 19:03:53 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:03:53 +0200 Subject: HW: Few things Message-ID: At 13:49 1996-09-26 -0500, you wrote: >On 26-SEP-1996 00:29:26.5 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 > >>> Hawklords Live: > >>> The Griffin CD - mine has an annoying 1 second silence about > >>> 20 seconds into Automoton, anybody else's suffer in the > >>> same way? (I'm NOT talking about the power cut in Death Trap) > >> > >>Which song? HLs Live has "25 Years", "High Rise", "Death Trap", > >Spirit of >the Age", "Sonic Attack" and "Over the Top". I don't know > >anything about >a song called "Automoton". > >the first 45 seconds of the CD is 'Automotion' - then '25 years' begins > >while 'Automotion' continues and fade out 20 seconds later. > >Well, if this first 45 seconds of music is "Automation" (or "Automoton"), >that's fine (I just figured it was an intro), but it doesn't seem to fade, >the opening riff of 25 starts afluttering, and it segues, but I don't hear a >fade... ok - I couldn't find the right word 6:24 in the morning on a language that's not mine, but you seems to have understand me anyway ;0) \\joe >Chuck >`[1;32;47mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive > > From TheQuail at CTHULHU.MICROSERVE.COM Thu Sep 26 19:59:01 1996 From: TheQuail at CTHULHU.MICROSERVE.COM (TheQuail at CTHULHU.MICROSERVE.COM) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:59:01 -0400 Subject: Absinthe revealed! Message-ID: Hi - I have been loosely following the absinthe thread, and though I am not a toxicologist, I am a chemist. So, here we go. . . . Thujone (the dextrorotatory b- isomer of 3 thujamone) is indeed the active ingredient in absinthe. It is classified as a "convulsant poison," grouped with two C(10)H(16)O isomers, camphor and menthol, the latter of which shares similar physical characteristics. . Chemical comparison shows that it is similar in structure to THC, the actice ingredient in marijuana. Both thojone and THC are terpenoids, with similar molecular geometry and similar functional groups - this is important in terms of human metabolism. According to Del Castillo (nature Magazine, January 31, 1975): "both thujone and THC exert their psychotomimetic effects by interacting with a common receptor in the central nervous system." By the way, it is indeed the ethanol in absinthe that makes it the most "toxic," for the levels of thujone are quite below toxic levels, but boy does it have a lot of hooch. . . . Have fun . . . By the way, an excellent resource on absinthe is Barnaby Conrad III's "Absinthe: History in a Bottle." ISBN: 0-87701-486-8 ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail | TheQuail at cthulhu.microserve.com Keeper of the Libyrinth | Sarnath - The Quailspace Web Page: | http://www.microserve.net/~thequail riverrun Discordian Society | | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft From dahl at MAIL.AROS.NET Thu Sep 26 22:54:50 1996 From: dahl at MAIL.AROS.NET (Brad Dahl) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 20:54:50 -0600 Subject: OTHER: absinth Message-ID: I see you guys don't need a toxicologist. I compliment those who've already contributed to the absinth discussion. Now for my 2 cents: There are several names associated with this plant: (Artemesia sp.) Sage Brush, Wormwood, Wormseed, Santonica, Mugwort (Mugwort is my personal favorite). "Toxic if ingested in large amounts since they yield volatile oils. Many of these plants produce undesirable flavors in milk", not unlike that pink QUIK stuff for kids. "Sage Sickness" (i.e. Dali Lama with the flu). Headache, vertigo, vomiting, apathy, sweating, diarrhea, vision distortion (white objects look violet, then yellow, then Jimi Hendrix appears drinking a cup of Postum). Large amounts cause convulsions, coma, respiratory failure. Also can cause dermatitis. Enjoy my friends, but remember, rattlesnake venom, strychnine, and dog shit are all natural products. Brad http://www.moosenet.com/poison.html From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Thu Sep 26 21:47:02 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:47:02 +1100 Subject: HW: Web Pages Message-ID: On 26 Sep 96 at 13:21, Carl E. Anderson wrote: > > Is anybody collating a list of all the HW related WEB pages? > > If so I'd love a copy please. > > Sonique may have--either way this is one of those things which > will eventually go on my own embryonic Hawkfrendz page (to be updated > in the next month or so). A fair few of them (but not all) do appear on my Hawkwind page .... Sonique -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Thu Sep 26 21:52:54 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:52:54 +1100 Subject: OFF: Rush - Test for Echo Message-ID: On 26 Sep 96 at 14:59, John A Swartz wrote: > On a related note, I recently read a BOC concert review from back around > '76 or '77 -- Rush opened for them. Does anyone know which gig/s it was that Rush opened for Hawkwind at a few years prior to this? Sonique -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Fri Sep 27 01:23:34 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:23:34 -0400 Subject: HW : New Hawkeye Message-ID: In a message dated 96-09-26 15:54:27 EDT, you write: > Nice chap. Natch I mentioned BOC-L, he remembered meeting >you, Bill, on a train to one of the gigs this summer. Small world, eh? >-- I remember Adrian. We shared a cab to the Brentwood gig from the train station. Nice guy! Saw him again at Guildford, I think. From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Fri Sep 27 01:29:22 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:29:22 -0400 Subject: HW US TOUR 97 Message-ID: Just heard from VERY reliable sources Hawkwind has plans to do a US tour in 97...My QUESS who be late spring, early summer knowing they hate the cold and snow. regards, Bill 'fingers crossed' Stewart From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Sep 25 04:05:20 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 09:05:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: Re: drugs In-Reply-To: <199609250053.RAA06857@dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: In message <199609250053.RAA06857 at dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com>, William Stone writes > Datura I believe is a mushroom, once favored by the gentle Norsemen >to create the proper Berserker mindset to visit their neighbors. Now, you're thinking Of Amanita Muscara AKA Fly Agaric, the red ones with white spots. I'm certain Jimson and Datura are the same thing. Dammit, now, *i'll * have to dig the books out too! -- Jon Browne From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Fri Sep 27 02:23:46 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Le Monsieur) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 01:23:46 -0500 Subject: HW US TOUR 97 In-Reply-To: <960927012920_531008389@emout03.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, Bill Stewart wrote: > Just heard from VERY reliable sources Hawkwind has plans to do a US tour > in 97...My QUESS who be late spring, early summer knowing they hate the > cold and snow. Would your VERY reliable source be, say, Dave Brock in the WWW interview part 1, as I read it? Damon Capehart | "As their numbers dwindled from 70 to 8, the aka Le Monsieur | dwarves began to suspect Hungry..." dcapehar at utdallas.edu | From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Sep 26 13:08:47 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:08:47 +0100 Subject: OFF: Fu Manchu In-Reply-To: <01BBABB9.624C7D20@dhcp-3.tadpole.co.uk> Message-ID: In message <01BBABB9.624C7D20 at dhcp-3.tadpole.co.uk>, Mike Parkington writes >Bloody hell, Here and now, casual beachwear, that takes me back. What was >their "signature tune?" I am sure I used to have one of their albums, bit >like Chemical Alice but Alice were later. > >Mike P. > erm, Opium For The People? My fav. was always What You See Is What You Are. -- Jon Browne From uriah at HERMITAGE.RU Fri Sep 27 03:44:02 1996 From: uriah at HERMITAGE.RU (Yuri Elik) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:44:02 +0400 Subject: Datura a mushroom? NOT! Message-ID: William Stone wrote: > > I stand corrected, sir. I wonder what that shroom was that the kind > Norsmen imbibed...? I do not know its name in english, but AFAIK in latin it's Amantia muscaria - you know, it's a very widespread poisonous mushroom with a red dotted white cap. Shamans in Sibiria also used it to reach trance state. The only problem with it is that its quality strongly depends on the place, at least in my region it doesn't have any interesting effects. Yuri From uriah at HERMITAGE.RU Fri Sep 27 03:58:46 1996 From: uriah at HERMITAGE.RU (Yuri Elik) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:58:46 +0400 Subject: Acid Daze (was: HW tyro) Message-ID: J Strobridge wrote: > > BTW does anybody here have some info about when & where the tracks from > > Acid Daze were recorded? My records' covers have only song titles. > > the Codex will show you which were the original albums they were taken from > and this will more or less give you the dates. I have checked Codex again - well, you can guess origin of some songs (with the help of other HW-related documents like Discography and Gig List) - e.g. it's obvious that High Rise is recorded in 1977 - but many songs appeared only on various compilations so there's no "original album" for them. > However for full info > there was a Brian Tawn booklet that came with the vinyl box set giving > the detailed reasoning behind the choice of each track. It seems than no one here owns this booklet? Yuri From mumford at EUNET.NO Fri Sep 27 04:26:14 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:26:14 +0200 Subject: OFF: Kula Shaker & Dave Gibbons Message-ID: Mike Parkington wrote: > > But they are a bunch of arrogant knob-heads. I heard they were blown off > the stage by Kula Shaker recently. God I hope that is true. Incidentally > the Kula Shaker album 'K' is bloody good if a little mainstream. Well worth > a listen. > > Mike P I just picked this up myself on a whim - good britpop with an eastern flavour. It has a very cool cover illustration by comics artist Dave Gibbons - anybody know what other album art he's done? The only other one I have and know of his is the comic strip in Jethro Tull's 'Too Young to Die, Too Old to Rock 'n' Roll' album......(or was it vice versa?) Christian From a.hughes at NEWI.AC.UK Fri Sep 27 05:55:03 1996 From: a.hughes at NEWI.AC.UK (Alun Hughes) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:55:03 GMT Subject: OFF: Fu Manchu Message-ID: >BTW, has anybody heard of the band Sleep? Apparantly they are a >MM-esqe/heavily infuenced by Black Sabbath type band on the Earache >label. Curious to know what they sound like (there was a reference to >them in a Dave Wyndorf of Monster Magnet interview). I have _Sleep's Holy Mountain_. "Sub-early-Sabbath" certainly describes it accurately, but doesn't convey the sheer crappiness of this album, which has got to be one of the worst I've ever bought (and I've got _Messages_) ... I remember listening to it with growing amazement, because I didn't think it was *possible* to be this bad so consistently, but they manage it for a whole CD. Er, anyone want it? Absolutely anything considered in trade .... Alun > >Christian > From spacy at TELEPORT.COM Fri Sep 27 05:44:46 1996 From: spacy at TELEPORT.COM (Baron Bloom) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 02:44:46 -0700 Subject: HW,etc. Message-ID: I just went through 10 feet worth of e-mail so I will try to respond to all of the messages at once. 1. Jaegermeister is good but it kind of sucks when you are holding your friends head up while he is extruding cheese at high speeds out of his mouth. 2. Does aneyone know which of those space rockers is Helios on the back of the 94 Space Ritual cd? 3. How does one know if he has one of the original first HW albums? 4. Here in the states if you get busted for weed you get put away for a long time and have to pay many thousands of dollars, While real crimnals dont get enough punishment. 5. I must say I like all HAWKWIND vocals, and I want to get beammed up. I really love Niks vocals they make my spine do a little dance. 6. I need a girl to sit on my face. ,BB http://www.teleport.com/~spacy/ ------------------------------- spacy at teleport.com (Baron Bloom) From aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU Fri Sep 27 05:52:05 1996 From: aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU (Duane Hoyt) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 05:52:05 -0400 Subject: HW US TOUR 97 Message-ID: Bill kindly informs us: > >Just heard from VERY reliable sources Hawkwind has plans to do a US tour in >97...My QUESS who be late spring, early summer knowing they hate the cold and >snow. > >regards, >Bill 'fingers crossed' Stewart > > Hey, this is great news, if true. So if it is, does that mean that the band found a U.S. promoter willing to put up some money to make it happen? Mr. Starrats, any info from your camp on this? Duane From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 27 11:37:45 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:37:45 BST Subject: HW: Live 78 In-Reply-To: Paul Mather's message of Thu, 26 Sep 1996 13:19:55 -0400 Message-ID: Paul Mather writes: > On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Jeremy Dacombe wrote: > > > Hi, > > OK, so my Griffin copy of HAWKLORDS LIVE, seems to be a one > > off bummer with the dropout during Automoton. > > Anybody interested in purchasing this item before I return it > > to the shop I got it from? > > I have this nagging (choir of) memory that my (Griffin) copy of the CD > also has a momentary dropout during that piece. Alas, it is across the > ocean right now, so I can't play it to check. :-( I wonder if the drop[out is related to the power problems on that tour. At Edinburgh there were two complete power failures during the gig and I know of two other gigs here which had imilar problems. > Cheers, > > Paul. FoFP From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 27 11:39:49 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:39:49 BST Subject: OFF: Gong 25th Birthday (was: Vinyl remasters?) In-Reply-To: Yuri Elik's message of Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:07:50 +0400 Message-ID: Yuri Elik writes: > Le Monsieur wrote: > > > > On Tue, 24 Sep 1996, M Holmes wrote: > > > Peeve: I still don't have a tape of Blake's solo spot from the Gong 25th > > > Anniversary reunion. Apparently he played a kickin' version of NJ there. > > > > That reminds me... the liner notes for Gong's 25th Birthday Party album > > say something to the effect of, "Coming soon: another live album of the > > rest of the birthday gig, featuring Here & Now, Tim Blake, [whoever else > > was there]. Look for it!" ...or something like that. > > > > What ever became of this? Did it ever come out? > > Well, I have found a '95 GAS booklet in my place, and in the "Short > Range Plans" department it was written: > > 25th Birthday Party Too - Various (GAS/Voiceprint 103) Spring 96 ^^^^^^^^^^ Ah! That explains it. Voiceprint took 14 months from receiving a cheque to sending me a Blake video. Maybe by 2001? > Yuri FoFP From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 27 11:41:07 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:41:07 BST Subject: HW : New Hawkeye In-Reply-To: Jon Browne's message of Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:01:11 +0100 Message-ID: Jon Browne writes: > Ade just dropped in the shop, with the delayed-at-the-printers Discog. > and the new Hawkeye. Looks good, review to follow. First time I've met > the bloke. Nice chap. Natch I mentioned BOC-L, he remembered meeting > you, Bill, on a train to one of the gigs this summer. Small world, eh? Yeah, Ade's a good bloke. I've met him at several gigs and one festival. > Jon Browne Looking forward to the review... FoFP From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 27 11:43:31 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:43:31 BST Subject: Datura a mushroom? NOT! In-Reply-To: William Stone's message of Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:01:16 -0700 Message-ID: William Stone writes: > > > >Wylie, > > > >I sense you've eaten a few mushrooms. > > Uh....What on earth would make you say that? :) > > >Datura is far from being a mushroom. > >It's a green leafy plant (I've got 3 in my backyard, kind of a study > you > >might say) with beautiful white flowers which give way to prickley > seed > >pods. > > I stand corrected, sir. I wonder what that shroom was that the kind > Norsmen imbibed...? Wasn't it Amanita Muscaria? > Wylie FoFP From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 27 11:42:40 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:42:40 BST Subject: Possible Dave Brock/Richard connection In-Reply-To: Ted Jackson jr. EL 84's message of Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:12:25 EST Message-ID: Ted Jackson jr. EL 84 writes: > NOTE-- > This appeared pn the Richard Thompson List. Thought you all would > get a kick... > theo > > > I was looking over the BEAT THE RETREAT (the RT tribute album) CD > slipcase yesterday and came across a name I didn't expect to see at > all in the "thanks to" section (which is huge), that of Dave Brock. > If it's the Dave Brock I'm thinking of, he's the captain of the > starship Hawkwind, the grandfathers of the "space rock" movement (such > as it is), a band with more lineup changes than Fairport (if that's > possible), though unlike Simon Nicol, Brock's been in *every* version > of the Hawkwind. So despite the fact that Brock and Thompson are > about as far apart musically as I can imagine (cerebral "folk-rock" > singer-songwriter vs. primitive, apocalyptic space-sludge with > cornball lyrics by people like Michael Moorcock (as well as the > genuinely talented and alas, departed, Robert Calvert)), why on earth > would BTR thank him? I noticed that there are several other musicians > on the the "thanks to" list who DON'T appear on the album itself, so > perhaps these are people who wanted to contribute, or did and didn't > make the final cut, etc. If so, which song could Dave Brock have > possibly done? The mind reels. "Madness of Love" might work as a > kind of outer space rave-up. > > Maybe it's a different Dave Brock. > > Any ideas? Err, Dave Brock employed his son as drummer in Hawkwind? FoFP From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 27 11:48:13 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:48:13 BST Subject: Acid Daze (was: HW tyro) In-Reply-To: Yuri Elik's message of Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:58:46 +0400 Message-ID: Yuri Elik writes: > J Strobridge wrote: > > > BTW does anybody here have some info about when & where the tracks from > > > Acid Daze were recorded? My records' covers have only song titles. > > > > the Codex will show you which were the original albums they were taken from > > and this will more or less give you the dates. > > I have checked Codex again - well, you can guess origin of some songs > (with the help of other HW-related documents like Discography and Gig > List) - e.g. it's obvious that High Rise is recorded in 1977 - but many > songs appeared only on various compilations so there's no "original > album" for them. > > > However for full info > > there was a Brian Tawn booklet that came with the vinyl box set giving > > the detailed reasoning behind the choice of each track. > > It seems than no one here owns this booklet? Oh, I'm sure I'll have it somewhere. > Yuri FoFP From mumford at EUNET.NO Fri Sep 27 07:14:17 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:14:17 +0200 Subject: Datura a mushroom? NOT! Message-ID: M Holmes wrote: > > William Stone writes: > > > > > > > > I stand corrected, sir. I wonder what that shroom was that the kind > > Norsmen imbibed...? > > Wasn't it Amanita Muscaria? > Yes it was. I heard that the Shamans used to eat it, and his urine would be drunk by other members of the tribe because shrooms were hard to come by in harsher climates (in Siberia in particular), so they basically recycled the trip - there was probably some magical reason too. I also understand the Norsemen used to feed it to goats and drink their urine since they filtered out the poison in the system, leaving a nice warm cuppa clean hallucinogenic goats-piss to party on. I don't know how true this is, but I've read both acoounts from different sources. Norwegians tend to dismiss the whole amanita-norsemen thing as exaggerated legend - and attribute the mushroom use to a few shamans and psilocybin as the shroom of choice rather than amanita. Christian From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 27 12:45:55 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:45:55 BST Subject: OFF : Jill's Ob In-Reply-To: Jon Browne's message of Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:11:22 +0100 Message-ID: Jon Browne writes: > In message <9609261726.aa24521 at uk.ac.ed.tattoo>, J Strobridge > writes > >jill > > > >obVideoDiscovery> Sapphire and Steel > > Neither of which are elements thus destroying the whole plot before > we've even started. Internal consistency is not to be relied upon..... Wierd stories tho! > But wait till you meet Jet :)) ah - in Adventure 3 I think? When the chunks of meat come alive... bye! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 27 12:51:20 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:51:20 BST Subject: HW: Kerbcrawler all clear Message-ID: Checked both purple labels now including the Dave Gilmour one (on loan only 8-( ). Dave G's name is in one of the small squares on the right hand side of the label but there are no differences between the different issues. The Codex is accurate. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 27 12:57:06 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:57:06 BST Subject: Possible Dave Brock/Richard connection In-Reply-To: M Holmes's message of Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:42:40 BST Message-ID: M Holmes writes: > Ted Jackson jr. EL 84 writes: > > > This appeared pn the Richard Thompson List. Thought you all would > > get a kick... > > theo > > genuinely talented and alas, departed, Robert Calvert)), why on earth > > would BTR thank him? I noticed that there are several other musicians > > Maybe it's a different Dave Brock. > > > > Any ideas? > Err, Dave Brock employed his son as drummer in Hawkwind? > yep. Danny Thompson. Richard Thompson seems to have been rather proud of this accomplishment - the Hawkwind years must have made a strong impression on his son! So whatever happened to Danny Thompson? jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Sep 27 08:01:25 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:01:25 +0100 Subject: WTB: Kingston Wall II In-Reply-To: <199609262254.PAA15555@dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com> from "William Stone" at Sep 26, 96 03:54:20 pm Message-ID: > Try Sprockets in Wyandotte Michigan, just outside Detroit. He always > carried all 3 cds and does do mailorder, tho he's high as hell > pricewise... Do you have contact information for this guy, or a phone number or something? At worst I can try and get Tania to call him (it being a might pricey to do some from the payphone in my student accomodation in England ;) since she did stellar work in snagging me the only copy of Sundial's "Overspill" CDEP that I managed to track down. Considering the general reports of the unavailabilty of the item I'm beginning to feel I may just bite whatever bullet there is pricewise. (After all, if I get friends or relatives in the States to pick it up for me, I have a bit more breathing space in which to pay them back :) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Sep 27 08:06:33 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:06:33 +0100 Subject: darXtar - Was: Kingston Wall II In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19960927010531.07374094@eka.ericsson.se> from "Johan Edlundh" at Sep 27, 96 01:03:48 am Message-ID: Re: KWall >no luck there - the dude smiled and said it was a *quite* a 'hard to get' item. Damn, damn, damn. I can see this is going to be a difficult quest. Thanks much for looking! And if anyone _does_ see this somewhere, please let me know. Re:darxtar > We're looking for a studio where we can cut the initial part of the new > album. Recording will probably begin within a months time. Some work is > going on trying to arrange a series of gigs in Sweden and Finland with > darXtar/Nik Turner and Finnish band Dark Sun. Would be nice if it could > be done. Sounds good--though probably a bit far for me to go even if they do arrange these gigs. > And we're looking for sci-fi artists that can help us with the forthcoming > lyric book - is there anyone out there? Hmmm, I know a guy in the States who would be perfect for the job. Anyone got the commander's email address? (Did I delete it from the message I'm responding too? :} ) I can try to pass word along to my friend and maybe he can contact them ... Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Sep 27 08:10:38 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:10:38 +0100 Subject: Possible Dave Brock/Richard connection In-Reply-To: <9609271257.aa14377@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> from "J Strobridge" at Sep 27, 96 12:57:06 pm Message-ID: Quoth Jill: > M Holmes writes: > > Ted Jackson jr. EL 84 writes: > > > This appeared pn the Richard Thompson List. Thought you all would > > > get a kick... > > > theo > > > genuinely talented and alas, departed, Robert Calvert)), why on earth > > > would BTR thank him? I noticed that there are several other musicians > > > Maybe it's a different Dave Brock. > > > Any ideas? > > > Err, Dave Brock employed his son as drummer in Hawkwind? > > yep. Danny Thompson. Richard Thompson seems to have been rather > proud of this accomplishment - the Hawkwind years must have made a > strong impression on his son! > So whatever happened to Danny Thompson? Ah, actually Richard Thompson is not the father of the Hawkwind drummer, but Danny Thompson (Sr.) ex- of Pentangle, etc. is the father of Danny Thompson (Jr.) of Hawkwind drumming fame. Danny Thompson (Sr.) is currently a bass player in the Richard Thompson tour band (saw him at Cropredy back in August). No idea what's become of the son these days. Danny Thompson (Sr.) used to have a joke about is son which was something like: "I hoped he'd become a musician, but instead he's a drummer in Hawkwind!" ;) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************* Carl Edlund Anderson "So that's Terra. Oohwee, cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk look out wenchlings, here http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html come the Hawklords." Dept. of ASNAC, University of Cambridge -Lord Lemmy (Hawkwind) ************************************************************************* From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Fri Sep 27 12:23:07 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 18:23:07 +0200 Subject: test Message-ID: test, my eudora fucks with me again "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Fri Sep 27 08:14:37 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 08:14:37 -0400 Subject: HW US TOUR 97 Message-ID: In a message dated 96-09-27 02:25:09 EDT, you write: >Would your VERY reliable source be, say, Dave Brock in the WWW interview >part 1, as I read it? no regards, Bill Stewart From mumford at EUNET.NO Fri Sep 27 08:27:08 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:27:08 +0200 Subject: darXtar - Was: Kingston Wall II Message-ID: Carl E. Anderson wrote: > > Re: KWall > >no luck there - the dude smiled and said it was a *quite* a 'hard to get' item. > > Damn, damn, damn. I can see this is going to be a difficult > quest. Thanks much for looking! And if anyone _does_ see this somewhere, > please let me know. I'll pay double of what he's offering for it!!! Really!! :-) Christian (still psychically lashing out at whomever swiped my copy at that damn party two 1/2 years ago) From mumford at EUNET.NO Fri Sep 27 09:06:44 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:06:44 +0200 Subject: Possible Dave Brock/Richard connection Message-ID: J Strobridge wrote: > > So whatever happened to Danny Thompson? > > jill > > He spent the money he earned with Hawkwind on getting a better haircut? Christian From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Sep 27 08:58:40 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:58:40 +0100 Subject: darXtar - Was: Kingston Wall II In-Reply-To: <324BC81C.5E33@eunet.no> from "Christian Mumford" at Sep 27, 96 02:27:08 pm Message-ID: > > Damn, damn, damn. I can see this is going to be a difficult > > quest. Thanks much for looking! And if anyone _does_ see this somewhere, > > please let me know. > > I'll pay double of what he's offering for it!!! Really!! :-) Ha! I'll beat his offer! (says Carl, preparing to sell off spare internal organs ...) Cheers, Carl ********************************************************************** Carl Edlund Anderson ASNAC Dept, U of Cambridge cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk ********************************************************************** From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Fri Sep 27 10:18:11 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:18:11 EST Subject: Possible Dave Brock/Richard connection Message-ID: > > Ted Jackson jr. EL 84 writes: > > > > > This appeared pn the Richard Thompson List. Thought you all would > > > get a kick... > > > theo > > > genuinely talented and alas, departed, Robert Calvert)), why on earth > > > would BTR thank him? I noticed that there are several other musicians > > > Maybe it's a different Dave Brock. > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Err, Dave Brock employed his son as drummer in Hawkwind? > > > > yep. Danny Thompson. Richard Thompson seems to have been rather > proud of this accomplishment - the Hawkwind years must have made a > strong impression on his son! > > So whatever happened to Danny Thompson? > > jill > I thought DT was no relation to RT. There is a Danny Thompson who still plays with Rt, but I believe he plays mandolin? Anyone know? theo From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Fri Sep 27 10:58:56 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:58:56 -0400 Subject: HW US TOUR 97 Message-ID: Bill announces:- >Just heard from VERY reliable sources Hawkwind has plans to do a US tour in >97...My QUESS who be late spring, early summer knowing they hate the cold and >snow. > Now, _which_ Hawkwind are we talking about? :-) :-) ;^) Martyn From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Fri Sep 27 11:47:36 1996 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:47:36 -0400 Subject: OTHER: absinth Message-ID: Brad writes: "Sage Sickness" (i.e. Dali Lama with the flu). Headache, vertigo, vomiting, apathy, sweating, diarrhea, vision distortion (white objects look violet, then yellow, then Jimi Hendrix appears drinking a cup of Postum). Large amounts cause convulsions, coma, respiratory failure. Also can cause dermatitis. Thanks Brad, for all the info-- not to mention the potential album titles.... Dermatitis, anybody? :-) DF From blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US Fri Sep 27 12:09:44 1996 From: blauchno at DEQ.STATE.UT.US (Brad M. Lauchnor) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:09:44 -0600 Subject: OTHER:album titles Message-ID: > Large amounts cause convulsions, coma, respiratory failure. Also can cause dermatitis. Thanks Brad, for all the info-- not to mention the potential album titles.... Dermatitis, anybody? :-) DF >>>>>>>> Deb- How about one of Brad's other quotes "causes convulsions, coma, respiratory failure". Any of those look good. Or "vertigo, vomiting, vision disortion" But I think "diarrhea" could be skipped. Brad L. blauchno at deq.state.ut.us From mordru at MAGG.NET Fri Sep 27 12:14:43 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 12:14:43 -0400 Subject: OTHER: absinth Message-ID: >Brad writes: "Sage Sickness" (i.e. Dali Lama with the flu). Headache, >vertigo, vomiting, >apathy, sweating, >diarrhea, vision distortion (white objects look violet, then yellow, then >Jimi Hendrix appears >drinking a cup of Postum). Large amounts cause convulsions, coma, >respiratory failure. Also >can cause dermatitis. > > >Thanks Brad, for all the info-- not to mention the potential album titles.... >Dermatitis, anybody? Album titles vertigo - neat, if it ties in to the comic line vomiting - Brain Surgeons forced to play macarena Apathy - several bands were going to do this but never got around to it. sweating - lot of hard work on this album diarrhea - please, no. vision distortion - kind of fuzzy about what this would be Jimi Hendrix Appears (midnight was the barrier) drinking a cup of Postum - I can see the album cover already... convulsions - Albert invents distorted fingernail on chalkboard power instrument +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Fri Sep 27 17:42:53 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:42:53 BST Subject: Possible Dave Brock/Richard connection In-Reply-To: Carl E. Anderson's message of Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:10:38 +0100 Message-ID: Carl E. Anderson writes: > Quoth Jill: > > yep. Danny Thompson. Richard Thompson seems to have been rather > > Ah, actually Richard Thompson is not the father of the Hawkwind > drummer, but Danny Thompson (Sr.) ex- of Pentangle, etc. is the father > of Danny Thompson (Jr.) of Hawkwind drumming fame. Danny Thompson (Sr.) > is currently a bass player in the Richard Thompson tour band (saw him > at Cropredy back in August). No idea what's become of the son these > days. oops - too many late mornings I fear..... My apologies to Richard Thompson! Dunno then - unless he joined Dave Brock during the busking years. jill (off to find a quiet stone to hide under) ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Fri Sep 27 13:30:38 1996 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:30:38 -0400 Subject: OTHER:album titles Message-ID: Re: Andrew (mordru) and BradL's EXCELLENT vertigo, vomiting,etc suggestions-- KNEW I could count on you guys! :-) Thanx DF From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Fri Sep 27 13:30:44 1996 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:30:44 -0400 Subject: OFF: Burdens of the Beast Message-ID: forgive me if I already shared this one... +++++++++++++++++++++ 666 - The number of the beast 667 - neighbor of the beast 660 - Approximate number of the Beast DCLXVI - Roman numeral of the Beast 666.0000 - Number of the High Precision Beast 0.666 - Number of the Millibeast / 666 - Beast Common Denominator 666 ^ (-1) - Imaginary number of the Beast 1010011010 - Binary of the Beast 6, uh... what was that number again? - Number of the Blonde Beast 1-666 - Area code of the Beast 0666 - English area code of the Beast 00666 - Zip code of the Beast 1-900-666-0666: Live Beasts! 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DSM-666 (revised) - Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the Beast Lotus 6-6-6 - Spreadsheet of the Beast Word 6.66 - Word Processor of the Beast i66686 - CPU of the Beast (sic) (sic) (sic) - three Beastly errors in spelling or grammar in the original. 666i - BMW of the Beast From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Fri Sep 27 14:15:55 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 20:15:55 +0200 Subject: darXtar - Was: Kingston Wall II Message-ID: >Re: KWall >>no luck there - the dude smiled and said it was a *quite* a 'hard to get' item. > > Damn, damn, damn. I can see this is going to be a difficult >quest. Thanks much for looking! you're welcome! >Re:darxtar >> We're looking for a studio where we can cut the initial part of the new >> album. Recording will probably begin within a months time. Some work is >> going on trying to arrange a series of gigs in Sweden and Finland with >> darXtar/Nik Turner and Finnish band Dark Sun. Would be nice if it could >> be done. > > Sounds good--though probably a bit far for me to go even if they >do arrange these gigs. > >> And we're looking for sci-fi artists that can help us with the forthcoming >> lyric book - is there anyone out there? > > Hmmm, I know a guy in the States who would be perfect for the >job. Anyone got the commander's email address? (Did I delete it from the >message I'm responding too? :} ) I can try to pass word along to my friend >and maybe he can contact them ... "K.Soren Bengtsson" say hello from me! >Cheers, >Carl cheers - \\joe From web2831 at CHARWEB.ORG Fri Sep 27 14:21:13 1996 From: web2831 at CHARWEB.ORG (Jeremy R. Horne) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:21:13 -0400 Subject: HW,etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, Baron Bloom wrote: > I just went through 10 feet worth of e-mail so I will try to respond to > all of the messages at once. > > 1. Jaegermeister is good but it kind of sucks when you are holding your > friends head up while he is extruding cheese at high speeds out of his > mouth. > > 2. Does aneyone know which of those space rockers is Helios on the back of > the 94 Space Ritual cd? Yes, when I get home I will look and tell you more (if you can tell which one has the unmoving eye that is him From uriah at HERMITAGE.RU Fri Sep 27 14:28:43 1996 From: uriah at HERMITAGE.RU (Yuri Elik) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 22:28:43 +0400 Subject: OFF: Gong 25th Birthday (was: Vinyl remasters?) Message-ID: M Holmes wrote: > > > 25th Birthday Party Too - Various (GAS/Voiceprint 103) Spring 96 > ^^^^^^^^^^ > > Ah! That explains it. Voiceprint took 14 months from receiving a cheque > to sending me a Blake video. I just have found the following info in the last issue of Crohinga Well: "... The important CD reissue label Voiceprint has gone through a few changes, it is now called Blueprint, and gets distributed by Frontline." It can be another explaination Yuri From cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Fri Sep 27 15:39:39 1996 From: cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:39:39 EST Subject: Acid Daze booklet Message-ID: >> > BTW does anybody here have some info about when & where the tracks from >> > Acid Daze were recorded? My records' covers have only song titles. >> However for full info >> there was a Brian Tawn booklet that came with the vinyl box set giving >> the detailed reasoning behind the choice of each track. >It seems than no one here owns this booklet? >Yuri I am the proud possessor of the vinyl box set of "Acid Daze", including the booklet. Are you located in the US? If so, then I could pretty easily send you a B&W xeroxed copy of this booklet. If you are overseas, perhaps we can work out a trade for a tape or something. It's at least a dozen pages (don't recall exactly how many right now), in color. It's pretty long for me to be typing it up right now, since I'm pretty busy, but I do hope to produce an online copy at some point for my own budding web page (not online yet, still residing on my PC). If anybody else out there has already typed this sucker up, then please contact me as I'd like to get a copy from you. Captain Cloud cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com ObSymphonicKrautrock: Grobschnitt "Rockpommels Land" From cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Fri Sep 27 15:42:09 1996 From: cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:42:09 EST Subject: HW/OFF: new releases info & questions Message-ID: Re: Spiral Realms "Solar Wind" Just got a call from my local dealer (the legal one :-) ), and my copy of the new Spiral Realms "Solar Wind" just came in. I'll pick it up tomorrow, possibly posting a brief review soon. Has anyone else already got this/heard this? I ordered it as soon as I heard it was out, but I don't even know the tracklist yet. I'd hate to find out it was a comp of already existing stuff... Re: Astralasia "The Space Between" He also got in the new US Astralasia "The Space Between". Any Astralasia fans looking to trade CDs or tape dubs for other bands, feel free to contact me. Re: Sleep These are the guys that opened for Nik Turner when I saw him in Tallahassee in 1994. So close a clone of Sabbath that I decided NOT to buy their low-priced CD they had at the show. I was extremely UN-impressed by their noise-sludge-riffs. I think I even have a tape of some of that same show, but I turned it off in the middle of their set as I didn't expect that the resulting tape would ever have any value to me or my trader friends. (Of course, I have probably re-used that tape again since then, so I may not even still have it.) Re: Porcupine Tree "Signify" Supposedly already out in the UK (?), I am still not certain that this is being released in the US. Can anybody confirm this? I saw some flyer ("PT Transmission" I think it was) a while back claiming a simultaneous UK/US release, but I haven't heard anything since then about the US. (Wylie, will you be carrying the UK or the domestic version, if there is one?) Re: Melting Euphoria "Beyond the Maybe Machine" I picked this up a few weeks ago, but so far it doesn't hit me the same way that the first two CDs by M.E. did. Perhaps I just need to let it percolate a while in my CD player, but they appear to have lost some of the melodies and "eccentricities" that I enjoyed so much. Re: V/A "Space Box" Picked up this 3CD critter also. An interesting collection of tracks from existing Cleopatra artists and early seventies Krautrock. The two HW tracks are "Valium 12 (12" version)" and "Time of...". I don't recall if "Time of.." has already been re-issued as a bonus track on any HW CDs lately; this is possibly its first appearance on CD(?). The Valium 10 on my set has a glitch, some kind of buzz noise for about a second, somewhere around the 7minute mark. I need to compare this to other versions of this song on other CDs to see if it is peculiar to this particular box set. Re: Archetectural Metaphor I thought they were supposed to have a new release out this summer. Has anybody seen it? Anyone near the Boston area caught them at any gigs, and might have further info? Captain Cloud cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com ObMelody: DarXtar 'Daybreak' "Dark Daze" From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Sep 27 04:28:23 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:28:23 +0100 Subject: Datura a mushroom? NOT! In-Reply-To: <324B85C1.513E@hermitage.ru> Message-ID: In message <324B85C1.513E at hermitage.ru>, Yuri Elik writes >The only problem with it is that its quality strongly depends on >the place, at least in my region it doesn't have any interesting >effects. > >Yuri Ah, that would explain the puking and the lack of any other effect! -- Jon Browne From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Sep 27 10:52:50 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:52:50 +0100 Subject: HW : New Hawkeye In-Reply-To: <9609271141.aa15256@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> Message-ID: In message <9609271141.aa15256 at uk.ac.ed.tattoo>, M Holmes writes >Looking forward to the review... > >FoFP I'm gonna be ultra busy for next three days, but I will say **bitchin'** Nik Turner interview!! PLus news of new Nik Album Sonic Attack 2001 due out now, Cleopatra. Anybody know if it's imminent? -- Jon Browne From videofest at MEDIOPOLIS.DE Sat Sep 28 00:07:48 1996 From: videofest at MEDIOPOLIS.DE (VideoFest Berlin) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 06:07:48 +0200 Subject: Calvert NEWS Message-ID: hello there, here's what's new on the Calvert site: http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/ - a new page on a recently re-discoverd early-70's stageplay by Calvert: THE BOX - the complete lyrics for Calvert's solo records: HYPE / TEST TUBE CONCEIVED / FREQ and his collaboration album with Amon Duul: DIE LOESUNG - a very interesting statement on Calvert by Roy Dunn - incl. a short but distinct comment on Calvert by Lemmy Mot?rhead Kilmister - and more statements on Calvert by Paul Rudolph and Tommy Grenas (Far Flung / Anubian Lights / Pressurehed...) - an extensive page on Michael Moorcock's collaborations with Calvert and Hawkwind - illustrated pages of various lyrics and much MORE - all listed on the NEWS page... enjoy - and if possibe, pass on some feedback. knut gerwers VideoFest Mediopolis Berlin e.V. Potsdamer Strasse 96 D-10785 Berlin Phone *49 30 262 87 14 Fax *49 30 262 87 13 videofest at mediopolis.de http://www.mediopolis.de/videofest/ From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Sep 27 10:57:00 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:57:00 +0100 Subject: Datura a mushroom? NOT! In-Reply-To: <324BB709.324B@eunet.no> Message-ID: In message <324BB709.324B at eunet.no>, Christian Mumford writes > psilocybin as >the shroom of choice rather than amanita. > >Christian DAMN right! I've always thought that fly aggies were overrated and liberty caps don't seem to top out till you get to about 1,500+ and *still* no nausea. Nope, they're the ones alright. Or so I hear :) -- Jon Browne From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Sat Sep 28 06:32:20 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 21:32:20 +1100 Subject: Calvert NEWS Message-ID: On 28 Sep 96 at 6:07, VideoFest Berlin wrote: > hello there, Welcome to BOC-L Knut! I hope you have a big mailbox ;^) Sonique -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Sat Sep 28 06:32:20 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 21:32:20 +1100 Subject: HW US TOUR 97 Message-ID: On 27 Sep 96 at 8:14, Bill Stewart wrote: > In a message dated 96-09-27 02:25:09 EDT, you write: > > >Would your VERY reliable source be, say, Dave Brock in the WWW interview > >part 1, as I read it? > > no Not very forthcoming!!! S. -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From david at MASTMOOR.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Sep 28 09:38:34 1996 From: david at MASTMOOR.DEMON.CO.UK (David Jones) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 14:38:34 +0100 Subject: HW : New Hawkeye Message-ID: > >PLus news of new Nik Album Sonic Attack 2001 due out now, Cleopatra. >Anybody know if it's imminent? BY coincidence I had a new copy of the Hawkwind catalogue from CDS which is listing it at ?13.95 here is what it says; Euro-import feat tracks from recent Turner/Anubian Lights USA releases + some previously unreleased tracks including a 10+ minute Shouldn't Do THat Space Ritual Rehearsal, THe weighing of Heart and Negative Confession (Travel Mix) and more. New catalogue also has a big review of the new Porcupine Tree but sadly my ordered copy hasn't arrived yet. David From skarsol at EROLS.COM Sat Sep 28 14:11:45 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 18:11:45 +0000 Subject: test Message-ID: this is also a test From skarsol at EROLS.COM Sat Sep 28 14:13:45 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 18:13:45 +0000 Subject: test--thank you erols. Message-ID: sorry my provider cant seem to decide how they want to run things. From jguizar at EPIX.NET Sat Sep 28 21:41:05 1996 From: jguizar at EPIX.NET (Jerry Guizar) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 21:41:05 -0400 Subject: Datura a mushroom? NOT! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In , on 09/27/96 at 03:57 PM, Jon Browne said: >In message <324BB709.324B at eunet.no>, Christian Mumford > writes >> psilocybin as >>the shroom of choice rather than amanita. >> >>Christian >DAMN right! I've always thought that fly aggies were overrated and >liberty caps don't seem to top out till you get to about 1,500+ and >*still* no nausea. Nope, they're the ones alright. I thought you were going to say 15,000+ feet (I really need to get some sleep). It's pretty neat flying while you're flying, especially when going from the East Coast to Hawaii. I don't know why it seems to have more of an affect when at the higher altitudes (my brother tried explaining something about it to me the last time I went flying with him, but I seem to have contracted some kind of long-term memory lapse - due to an altered state at the time). >Or so I hear :) Ummm, I meant that's what I heard too ;{} Jerry ----------------------------------------------------------- jguizar at epix.net ----------------------------------------------------------- From iscladoc at IDIR.NET Sat Sep 28 22:24:40 1996 From: iscladoc at IDIR.NET (Allan T Grohe Jr) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 21:24:40 -0500 Subject: off/other: The Banana Splits' eponymous lp Message-ID: Hi all, A highly off-topic query for you: I borrowed the _Saturday Morning: Cartoons' Greatest Hits_ cd from a friend of mine, which has on it a cover of "The Tra la la Song (One Banana, Two Banana)" by Liz Phair/Material Issue. All well and good, and a real blast to hear (I'm possibly a bigger Banana Splits fan than I am a Moorcock fan, if you can imagine that ;-). However, what truly piqued my interest was the liner notes that mention an eponymous lp with songs by Barry White and other noted composers. Copyright info in the lyrics shows (c) 1969 Unichappell Music Inc (BMI)/Anihanbar Music CO (BMI) (which I presume is Hanna Barbera, now apparently a Turner company). I'd love to get this. Any ideas as to where I could track one down?? I'm really not even sure where to start. Any help would be appreciated! Allan. ObTape: Yes, "I Get Up I Get Down" section of _Close to the Edge_, San Luis Obispo, 3/6/96 ObHW: Glad to hear that they'll tour in '97, though that seems an awfully long time away. Maybe they'll stop in Kansas this time, or I'll just road trip back east.... ObWish: That I was listening to the new PTree cd; I heard the lp'll have a bonus track, any verification on this? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allan T. Grohe, Jr. Nomad of the Time Streams. Poet. iscladoc at idir.net RPG Writer/Reviewer. Outer God. Visit the Dreaming City: http://www.rpg.net/ehp/imrryr.html "Farewell, friend. I was a thousand times more evil than thou." - Michael Moorcock, _Stormbringer_ From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sun Sep 29 03:38:16 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 03:38:16 -0400 Subject: HW US TOUR 97 Message-ID: In a message dated 96-09-28 07:33:58 EDT, you write: >> >Would your VERY reliable source be, say, Dave Brock in the WWW interview >> >part 1, as I read it? >> >> no > >Not very forthcoming!!! > >S yep regards, Bill Stewart From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Sun Sep 29 12:26:28 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 18:26:28 +0200 Subject: HW: Victoria Album Question Message-ID: hi, this is taken from the BOC-l discography: ---------------------------- 1983 Hawkwind - Victoria double album * This was a Spanish album rereleased in Britain by Flicknife. It has * mostly Flicknife releases on it: ---------------------------- was this album really released in UK by Flicknife? \\joe From cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Sun Sep 29 15:42:26 1996 From: cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 14:42:26 EST Subject: HW: Spiral Realms 'Solar Wind' Message-ID: This has gotten a couple of listens by now, and I have to dig it. The sound quality is quite good and clear, although the dynamic range seems slightly limited (like live tapes often do). The fidelity doesn't match that of the original studio recordings (of course!), but there is very little too complain about. The cover artwork is the usual 3D-mapped-KPT-created-"otherworld" that graces the previous 2 SR titles, although the back cover has 4 tiny pictures of Len, Simon, Del, and Del & Simon. Del's famous axe is not particularly distinguishable from a guitar in either of his shots. :-( Tracklist: 1. Cysyrgy 2. Lunar Sea 3. 1000 Years Under Solar Sails 4. Tritium 5. Solar Wind 6. Del Dettmar Improvisation 7. The Forge of Vulcan 8. Interstellar Overdrive Songs recorded at: 1,2 - The Lounge Axe, Chicago 7/22/95 4,5,8 - The Fox Theater, Boulder CO 7/30/95 3,6,7 - The Great American Music Hall, San Fran CA 8/6/95 (same gig as most of the Nikwind live CD 'Past or Future') Without doubt the most interesting song (to me) was the Floyd cover at the end. However, all the songs sound good, the violin is quite visible in the mix most of the time, and the songs do not seem hurried or rushed at all. Quite a laid-back pace, in fact. If you enjoyed the previous Spiral Realms releases, this is an excellent addition. An interesting tidbit: in the Cleopatra catalog inserted into the CD there is a listing for 3 SR titles, with the third being not 'Solar Wind' but rather 'Live Transmission from G9'. Closer examination reveals that LTfG9 has Cat# 9764, while my new SW has UPC code 97642 at the end. Apparently they renamed the CD between printing the catalogs and producing the CD! :-) Captain Cloud cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com ObRockingPsych: Dead Flowers 'Moontan' From videofest at MEDIOPOLIS.DE Sun Sep 29 15:14:34 1996 From: videofest at MEDIOPOLIS.DE (VideoFest Berlin) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 20:14:34 +0100 Subject: Calvert NEWS Message-ID: hi paul, >Welcome to BOC-L Knut! > >I hope you have a big mailbox ;^) thanks for the mailbox - I just overcame the initial mailbox-shock - to give truth the honor I am thinking of sending the "set nomail" message .... toghether with all my other mail traffic this is just to much. guess I prefer to peek into the archives from time to time... - or do you manage to read all that stuff??? knut VideoFest Mediopolis Berlin e.V. Potsdamer Strasse 96 D-10785 Berlin Phone *49 30 262 87 14 Fax *49 30 262 87 13 videofest at mediopolis.de http://www.mediopolis.de/videofest/ From acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK Sun Sep 29 15:32:35 1996 From: acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK (Andy C) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 20:32:35 +0100 Subject: HW: Love in space video Message-ID: Just a note to let you all know (if you didn't already) that the "Love in space" video is out. I spotted it in our local Virgin, but since I haven't been paid yet will have to wait till next week to get it. Andy C http://alpha.mic.dundee.ac.uk/ft/ft.cgi?-1,ft Fortean Times On-Line From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Sun Sep 29 18:25:27 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 18:25:27 -0400 Subject: OFF: RIP, Porcupine Tree Mailing List Message-ID: For those of you that were also on the PT mailing list, I just received an e-mail from Ivor. The PT server was (in his words) "hacked and had to be shut down". So, it is dead, for the time being. He hopes to get it back on-line, sometime soon, so just hang in there and keep your eye to the sky, space cadets! obCDplayer: Asgard : Gotterdammerung Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com From StevenTice at AOL.COM Mon Sep 30 01:43:46 1996 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 01:43:46 -0400 Subject: Reaper MIDI update Message-ID: Okay, the Musings Magic Special is off to the printer, so I now have more time to work on these things! Here's the Reaper midi plus bass line. I adapted the bass line from the Cult Classic version, and added a few little touches of my own. I also recently discovered the pitch bend wheel manipulator in Cakewalk, so I tried using that on the guitar bend in the last verse, though it didn't turn out perfectly...anybody out there use Cakewalk and have any suggestions for me? Thanks... SET -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: REAPER.MID Type: application/octet-stream Size: 20727 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mumford at EUNET.NO Mon Sep 30 02:12:10 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 08:12:10 +0200 Subject: darXtar - sci-fi art Message-ID: Johan Edlundh wrote: > > >> And we're looking for sci-fi artists that can help us with the forthcoming > >> lyric book - is there anyone out there? > > I've done some of sci-fi art (but mostly comics), both professional and otherwise - in fact I've got a Hawkwind comic project on its way - let me know if there's any interest and I can send samples. Christian From spacy at TELEPORT.COM Mon Sep 30 04:09:45 1996 From: spacy at TELEPORT.COM (Baron Bloom) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 01:09:45 -0700 Subject: Re,Re-sci-fi art Message-ID: I may be able to help out, take a look at my page. http://www.teleport.com/~spacy/ ,BB http://www.teleport.com/~spacy/ ------------------------------- spacy at teleport.com (Baron Bloom) From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 30 10:26:54 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 10:26:54 BST Subject: Calvert NEWS In-Reply-To: VideoFest Berlin's message of Sun, 29 Sep 1996 20:14:34 +0100 Message-ID: VideoFest Berlin writes: > hi paul, > > > >Welcome to BOC-L Knut! Yep, welcome to the future! FoFP From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 30 10:41:34 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 10:41:34 BST Subject: HW: Love in space video In-Reply-To: Andy C's message of Sun, 29 Sep 1996 20:32:35 +0100 Message-ID: Andy C writes: > Just a note to let you all know (if you didn't already) that > the "Love in space" video is out. I spotted it in our > local Virgin, but since I haven't been paid yet > will have to wait till next week to get it. Yeah, I've had that one a couple of weeks through the folks at Visionary. > > Andy C > http://alpha.mic.dundee.ac.uk/ft/ft.cgi?-1,ft Fortean Times On-Line From mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK Mon Sep 30 14:31:34 1996 From: mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK (Mike Parkington) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:31:34 +-100 Subject: OFF:Blackout Message-ID: I haven't had a single mail today, has it gone quiet or do I have,,,,,,PROBLEMS! Mike P. From EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK Mon Sep 30 09:27:49 1996 From: EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK (Philosophical Phil) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:27:49 +0100 Subject: Datura a mushroom? NOT! Message-ID: I'm finding your exchange about mushrooms both entertaining and informative. I can really relate to the comments about memory problems...... Too much, too often, of too many things......in the past. I tend to stick to drink these days - at least I know how and why it's killing me. I'm always impressed by the way musicians can remember songs and lyrics, given some of their indulgences. There have been some famous occasions when they can't but generally they seem to do pretty well. Phil p.s. On a general memory thing, it always amuses me when, in TV cop things, they ask people what they were doing on the night of....some obscure date, and people tell them. "The lives of great men all remind us We must lead our lives sublime And in passing leave behind us Foot prints in the sands of time" Philip Wane The Nottingham Trent University Nottingham, Not So Merry England I usually have trouble remembering what I did *last* night! From dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM Mon Sep 30 08:40:00 1996 From: dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM (Jeremy Dacombe) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 08:40:00 EDT Subject: HW: MysteryMan Message-ID: --- Received from LIMEMO1.DACOMBJ 4709 30/09/96 13.39 --- Received from LES.DACOMBJ 4709 26/09/96 08.51 -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBMMAIL INTERNET GATEWAY INTERNET Hi, I've just been studying my Space Ritual CD booklets and have the following question:- In the 2nd booklet (the one with the orange wallpaper/inner sleeve front), just over half way through, above the 7 by 7 lyrics, there is a photo of Nik & someone else on stage. Who is this other person? It looks a bit like Lemmy, but I'm sure it isn't, have you ever seen Lemmy dressed in a white flower power cheescloth type shirt? Could it be some bod from The Fairies during on the legendary PinkWind gigs? Any thoughts? Jez From EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK Mon Sep 30 12:12:36 1996 From: EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK (Philosophical Phil) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 17:12:36 +0100 Subject: HW: MysteryMan Message-ID: I can't help you with the "If it's not Lemmy, who is it?" query but your suggestion that it was someone from the Pink Fairies reminded me that I saw a review of their new album, Pleasure Island, in The Sunday Times newspaper. Even more amazing was the fact that they said it was good! The line up is now Twink (probably their most infamoous drummer), Larry on guitar and others. Let's face it, you couldn't really call it the Fairies without Larry. Phil DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT MAN - JUST DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! DO IT! From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Mon Sep 30 12:26:41 1996 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:26:41 -0400 Subject: OFF: Another Microsoft Product Message-ID: "ANOTHER MICROSOFT PRODUCT" Microsoft Panhandler v1.0 (Beta) [by Kevin G.] Redmond, WA -- Microsoft Corporation chair, CEO and all-around babe magnet Bill Gates announced yesterday the introduction of a new product for Windows 95: Microsoft Panhandling. "The idea came to me the other day when a homeless man asked me for money,"recalls Gates. "I suddenly realized that we were missing a golden opportunity. Here was a chance to make a profit without any initial monetary investment. Naturally, this man then became my competition, so I had my limo driver run over him several times." Microsoft engineers have been working around the clock to complete Gates' vision of panhandling for the 21st century. "We feel that our program designers really understand how the poor and needy situation works," says Microsoft Homeless product leader Bernard Liu. "Except for the fact that they're stinking rich." Microsoft Panhandling will be automatically installed with Windows 95. At random intervals, a dialog box pops up, asking the user if they could spare any change so that Microsoft has enough money to get a hot meal. ("This is a little lie," admits software engineer Adam Miller, "since our diet consists of Coke and Twinkies, but what panhandler doesn't embellish a little?") The user can click Yes, in which case a random amount of change between $.05 and $142.50 is transferred from the user's bank account to Microsoft's. The user can also respond No, in which case the program politely tells the user to have a nice day. The "No" button has not yet been implemented. "We're experiencing a little trouble programming the No button," Bernard Liu says, "but we should definitely have it up and running within the next couple of years. Or at least by the time Windows 2014 comes out. Maybe." Gates says this is just the start of an entire line of products. "Be on the lookout for products like Microsoft Mugging, which either takes $50 or erases your hard drive, and Microsoft Squegee Guy, which will clean up your Windows for a dollar." (When Microsoft Squegee Guy ships, Windows 95 will no longer automatically refresh your windows.) But there are competitors on the horizon. Sun Microsystems and Oracle Corporation are introducing panhandling products of their own. "Gates is a few tacos short of a combination platter, if you get my drift," says Oracle Head Honcho and 3rd degree black belt Larry Ellison. "I mean, in the future, we won't need laptop computers asking you for change. You'll have an entire network of machines asking you for money." Gates responded with, "I know what you are, but what am I?" General pandemonium then ensued. From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Mon Sep 30 12:55:01 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:55:01 -0400 Subject: Advice for aspiring musicians Message-ID: Check out the current issue of Musician magazine (Vai, Johnson, Satriani on the cover) - there's a rather insightful article on getting exposure for your band . . . written by BOC-L member (and someone who knows a bit about the subject) Deb Frost. Fans of the Brain Surgeons will note the photo of the band included. John From pitkin at MARYWOOD1.MARYWOOD.EDU Mon Sep 30 12:51:59 1996 From: pitkin at MARYWOOD1.MARYWOOD.EDU (Bryan Pitkin) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:51:59 E Subject: HW: Love in space video Message-ID: Where in the USA can you get ahold of the Love in Space video?? pitkin at ac.marywooc.edu From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 30 17:58:55 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 17:58:55 BST Subject: OFF: Pink Fairies In-Reply-To: Philosophical Phil's message of Mon, 30 Sep 1996 17:12:36 +0100 Message-ID: Philosophical Phil writes: > suggestion that it was someone from the Pink Fairies reminded me that I saw a > review of their new album, Pleasure Island, in The Sunday Times newspaper. > Even more amazing was the fact that they said it was good! that's interesting! I just read a review the other day in the C&D catalogue that also said how brilliant this album was - even knowing the capability C&D have for hyperbole the review was exceptionally good. Must admit I'm somewhat bemused having bought all the recent Pinkwind/Pink Fairies issues and found them somewhat sub-standard to say the least. Perhaps miracles in the music world do exist......! jill PS: here's a quote from the review "....This is what musical excitement is all about - forget Ash Ra, Ozrics, High Rise, Marble Sheep, Tangle Edge & all, because the kings have returned. This is what guitars and drums were made for - totally awesome, mind-blowing and simply the best track I've heard all year - phew!! - done live, this will be brain warping! So there we have it, psych CD and comeback of '96-no contest. Need I say it ... essential and then some!" how can I resist.... 8-) ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 30 18:05:02 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 18:05:02 BST Subject: HW: C&D services Message-ID: The new C&D catalogue is out with all the Hawkwind and/or related and/or other Psych recently issued stuff now available including the Love in Space video. However for those who like really beautiful synth music they also have 6 copies of the Nodens Ictus tape "Grove of Selves". This was an Ozrics offshoot and I don't think any other releases were ever made but this tape is really nice and if you can get hold of it I'd strongly recommend it! IMO of course 8-0 jill (I'm just a satisfied customer, honest!) ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Sep 30 18:23:32 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 18:23:32 BST Subject: HW in Record Collector Message-ID: There's a guy with some 2nd hand HW tour programmes for sale in case anyone is still looking for these: Brian Long, 6 Lynwood Drive, Merley, Wimborne, Dorset, BH21 1UG (Tel: 01202 888423) has: Chronicle of the Black Sword + ticket 10.00 pounds Earth Ritual prog + ticket 10.00 Choose Your Masques prog 8.00 Starship Hawkwind prog (1981 tour + ticket) 12.00 NB - I suspect this is the Sonic Attack prog 1988 tour prog (Agents of Chaos) + ticket 10.00 jill PS: and if any of the above are still available thro' Hawkwind Merchandising Inc. I apologise for listing them but I guess for those in search of such things, the chance of getting hold of the ticket alone is worth knowing about. ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Mon Sep 30 00:29:28 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 15:29:28 +1100 Subject: OFF: Another Microsoft Product Message-ID: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM wrote: > > "ANOTHER MICROSOFT PRODUCT" > > Microsoft Panhandler v1.0 (Beta) > > [by Kevin G.] > > Redmond, WA -- Microsoft Corporation chair, CEO and all-around babe > magnet Bill Gates announced yesterday the introduction of a new product > > for Windows 95: Microsoft Panhandling. > > "The idea came to me the other day when a homeless man asked me for > money,"recalls Gates. "I suddenly realized that we were missing a > golden > opportunity. Here was a chance to make a profit without any initial > monetary investment. Naturally, this man then became my competition, so > I > had my limo driver run over him several times." > > Microsoft engineers have been working around the clock to complete > Gates' > vision of panhandling for the 21st century. > > "We feel that our program designers really understand how the poor and > needy situation works," says Microsoft Homeless product leader Bernard > Liu. "Except for the fact that they're stinking rich." > > Microsoft Panhandling will be automatically installed with Windows 95. > At > random intervals, a dialog box pops up, asking the user if they could > spare any change so that Microsoft has enough money to get a hot meal. > ("This is a little lie," admits software engineer Adam Miller, "since > our > diet consists of Coke and Twinkies, but what panhandler doesn't > embellish > a little?") The user can click Yes, in which case a random amount of > change between $.05 and $142.50 is transferred from the user's bank > account to Microsoft's. The user can also respond No, in which case the > > program politely tells the user to have a nice day. The "No" button has > > not yet been implemented. > > "We're experiencing a little trouble programming the No button," > Bernard > Liu says, "but we should definitely have it up and running within the > next couple of years. Or at least by the time Windows 2014 comes out. > Maybe." > > Gates says this is just the start of an entire line of products. > > "Be on the lookout for products like Microsoft Mugging, which either > takes $50 or erases your hard drive, and Microsoft Squegee Guy, which > will clean up your Windows for a dollar." (When Microsoft Squegee Guy > ships, Windows 95 will no longer automatically refresh your windows.) > > But there are competitors on the horizon. Sun Microsystems and Oracle > Corporation are introducing panhandling products of their own. > > "Gates is a few tacos short of a combination platter, if you get my > drift," says Oracle Head Honcho and 3rd degree black belt Larry > Ellison. > "I mean, in the future, we won't need laptop computers asking you for > change. You'll have an entire network of machines asking you for > money." > > Gates responded with, "I know what you are, but what am I?" General > pandemonium then ensued. Perfect! Perfect! Perfect! Gee, these programs aren't out yet? For some reason I thaught they were already in circulation.... Funny that. -Max Wilcox From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Mon Sep 30 13:58:58 1996 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 12:58:58 -0500 Subject: Recent Hawkwind finds Message-ID: Friday night I briefly stopped at the annual fund raiser music sale for the ALS foundation in Skokie (a Chicago suburb). There are supposedly about 400,000 used and new records and CDs for sale there. I didn't have much time to look then, but I came across two Hawkwind items. I was able to get a vinyl copy of Dave Brock's _Earthed to Ground_ LP for $9.00. I also found a vinyl _Hall of the Mountain Grill_ for $18.00. Although the LP was in good shape, the price seems rather high. Given that I already have it, I didn't bother to purchase this one. There were a lot of other albums, that I would have gotten if I were independently wealthy, but alas that is not the case. I saw German pressings of Deep Purple albums, bootleg vinyl of Rainbow, etc., but whoever was pricing them wasn't giving anyone any bargains. I did pick up The Sensational Alex Harvey Band's _Tomorrow Belongs to Me_ LP for $7.00 and the latest Machines of Loving Grace CD for $5.00, though. I'm planning to go back tonight when I actually have some time to browse. Unfortunately, the records and CDs are not ordered except by category, so one has to wade through loads of swill to find the gems. Frank ObCD: _Masters of Misery_ Black Sabbath - An Earache Tribute -- ============================================================================== Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 Real programmers like vending machine popcorn. Coders pop it in the microwave oven. Real programmers use the heat from the CPU. They can tell which jobs are running from the rate of popping. From mjf at GRAHAM.COM Mon Sep 30 17:21:10 1996 From: mjf at GRAHAM.COM (Mike Fuller) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:21:10 -0700 Subject: HW: Cleopatra Space Box 3CD compilation Message-ID: I remember someone posted a few months ago asking about this critter, but no one responded with a track list. I was just doing some "research" at CDNOW, and they have it for $23.77, but they don't have a track list, either. Before I cough up the money for this beast, can anybody help me out? I already have practically every Hawkwind CD available, a bunch of Nik's stuff, and CDs from various other related bands like Helios Creed and Pressurehed, so I wouldn't be buying it for that material and would prefer not to get too many duplicate tracks (I already have enough of that from Hawkwind compilations, thank you ;-). -- Mike From mjf at GRAHAM.COM Sat Sep 28 19:43:06 1996 From: mjf at GRAHAM.COM (Mike Fuller) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 16:43:06 -0700 Subject: HW: Space Ritual remaster question Message-ID: I just got my Space Ritual remaster in the mail yesterday, and was wondering about the origin of the 3 bonus tracks? If my memory of previous discussions serves me correctly, "You Shouldn't Do That" was recorded at the same show but omitted because it didn't fit on the vinyl. If I had to guess, I'd say that "Born To Go" is the the unedited version of the "original" one, but I'm at a loss to explain "Master Of The Universe". Different mix? Space Ritual Volume 2 version? -- Mike From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Mon Sep 30 18:16:44 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 22:16:44 UT Subject: Space Ritual remaster question Message-ID: The "Born to Go" and "Master of the Universe" bonus tracks are from the _Greasy Truckers Party_ gig/album, recorded at the Roundhouse, February 13, 1972. The version of Man's "Spunk Rock" on _Greasy Truckers_ is pretty awesome, too... :) - Andy From hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM Mon Sep 30 08:27:41 1996 From: hawkwind at INTERACCESS.COM (Randy) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 07:27:41 -0500 Subject: HW: Cleopatra Space Box 3CD compilation Message-ID: At 02:21 PM 9/30/96 -0700, you wrote: >I remember someone posted a few months ago asking about this critter, >but no one responded with a track list. I was just doing some >"research" at CDNOW, and they have it for $23.77, but they don't have a >track list, either. Before I cough up the money for this beast, can >anybody help me out? > >I already have practically every Hawkwind CD available, a bunch of Nik's >stuff, and CDs from various other related bands like Helios Creed and >Pressurehed, so I wouldn't be buying it for that material and would >prefer not to get too many duplicate tracks (I already have enough of >that from Hawkwind compilations, thank you ;-). > >-- > Mike > > Space Box track list Hawkwind----Valium 10(12"Version) Pressurehed----slo blo Amon duul 2----wolf city Ron geesin----mominous F/I----boots of ascension Cluster----apropos Cluster Architectural Metaphor----Braintichet Gong----Conwash Indelible Porcupine tree----Burning Sky Chrome----Third From The Sun Nick Turner----10 Seconds of forever Alien Planetscapes----International Sponce Guru Guru----UFO Melting Euphori----In Aquarain Dream Kraftwelt-Electric Dimension (zero Gravity Mix) Dark Matter----Past Zero Time Harmonia----Sehr Hosmise Darxtar----The Alien Nation (space Mix) Michael Moorcock's Deep Fix----Time Center Farflung----Vision Of Infinity (7"Version) Brainstorm----Number 6 Conrad Schnitzler----Contrapuntal Interstellar Radars Hawklords----Time Of Faust----Devoted Bone Dance Helios Creed----Leaving The Body Popol Vuh----Ich Mache Einen Soiecel Dream Part 4 Anubian Lights----12 24 2on Nick Rif----Tribal Elders Harve Bainbridge----The chancing Zero Gravity----Interferon Dilate----Tangerine Sky Kluster----22.og(Edit Version) Steve Peregrin Took----Scorpius(Deep Space Version) The Brain----Vortex In My Cortex Spiral Relms----Cysyrgy Surface 10----Grmma Days ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Randy,USA,Planet Earth,The Milky Way Galaxy hawkwind at interaccess.com hawkwind at aol.com http://homepage.interaccess.com/~hawkwind/universe.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM Mon Sep 30 19:41:47 1996 From: Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 18:41:47 -0500 Subject: HW: Space Ritual remaster question Message-ID: At 04:43 PM 9/28/96 -0700, you wrote: >I just got my Space Ritual remaster in the mail yesterday, and was >wondering about the origin of the 3 bonus tracks? > >If my memory of previous discussions serves me correctly, "You Shouldn't >Do That" was recorded at the same show but omitted because it didn't fit >on the vinyl. If I had to guess, I'd say that "Born To Go" is the the >unedited version of the "original" one, but I'm at a loss to explain >"Master Of The Universe". Different mix? Space Ritual Volume 2 >version? > >-- > Mike All the track information is on the Official Hawkwind Web Site, under the EMI UA Remastered series. (www.hawkwind.com) Yours, Star Rats