From mordru at MAGG.NET Tue Oct 1 00:02:38 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 00:02:38 -0400 Subject: OFF: Supernatural Fairy Tales Message-ID: Anyone familiar with this boxed set? A friend of mine who first got me into Hawkwind keeps telling me this is sort of an 'essential primer' for a neophyte in space-rock (apparently something he still considers me, as I only have about dozen Hawkwind albums), and he'd get it himself except he has it all already on vinyl. I recognized Gong on the set-lists, but at $60.00 I'd like a second opinion before splurging on it. It's a 5-cd set... =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM Tue Oct 1 01:30:15 1996 From: Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 00:30:15 -0500 Subject: HW US TOUR 97 Message-ID: At 05:52 AM 9/27/96 -0400, you wrote: >Bill kindly informs us: >> >>Just heard from VERY reliable sources Hawkwind has plans to do a US tour in >>97...My QUESS who be late spring, early summer knowing they hate the cold and >>snow. >> >>regards, >>Bill 'fingers crossed' Stewart >> >> >Hey, this is great news, if true. So if it is, does that mean that >the band found a U.S. promoter willing to put up some money to make it >happen? Mr. Starrats, any info from your camp on this? > >Duane > There have been plans for US dates for the past 6 months but nothing has been sorted out yet. Yours, Star Rats From Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM Tue Oct 1 01:37:39 1996 From: Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 00:37:39 -0500 Subject: Possible Dave Brock/Richard connection Message-ID: At 03:06 PM 9/27/96 +0200, you wrote: >J Strobridge wrote: >> > >> So whatever happened to Danny Thompson? I was recording in at a small studio in Ipswich when I got talking to the engineer. He was very good friends with Danny and it turned out that he recorded all the demo tracks for his new band at the same place. I heard some of the tracks and they all sounded OK. I didn't find out what he was up to after that, I only know that he was trying to get a deal with a company for his new band and was hanging out in East Anglia. On another note, did you know that Clive Deamer (Hawkwind's drummer for 1984) played with the 'Big Town Playboys' when they recorded the tribute to Gene Vincent with Jeff Beck a couple of years ago (called 'Crazy Legs')? and Rob Heaton (New Model Army's drummer) was the Hawkwind roadie at the around the same time. . he even filled in a few times for them. One of the tea ladies that used to work at my old place was Terry Ollis' sister. . . it's a small world filled with Hawkwind drummers!!! Yours, Star Rats From etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE Tue Oct 1 10:42:51 1996 From: etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE (Rob) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:42:51 BST Subject: Possible Dave Brock/Richard connection Message-ID: > > On another note, did you know that Clive Deamer (Hawkwind's drummer for > 1984) played with the 'Big Town Playboys' when they recorded the tribute to > Gene Vincent with Jeff Beck a couple of years ago (called 'Crazy Legs')? and > Rob Heaton (New Model Army's drummer) was the Hawkwind roadie at the around > the same time. . he even filled in a few times for them. > Rob Heaton gets drumming credits on Utopia Live and also I believe on the single which has Green Finned Demon on it. When I saw NMA in the Shetland Islands in '92 I spent about an hour chatting to Rob in a club, unfortunately I didn't know at the time that he was an ex-Hawkwind member so I didn't ask any questions about that. Come to think about it that means there is also a Hawkwind-Tom Jones connection. At the same time that Hawkwind did "Give Me Shelter" with Sam Fox, NMA did an excellent version of the song with Tom Jones. bye - Rob bye _ Rob From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Tue Oct 1 10:54:29 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:54:29 BST Subject: HW: C&D services In-Reply-To: J Strobridge's message of Mon, 30 Sep 1996 18:05:02 BST Message-ID: J Strobridge writes: > However for those who like really beautiful synth music they also have 6 > copies of the Nodens Ictus tape "Grove of Selves". This was an Ozrics > offshoot and I don't think any other releases were ever made but this > tape is really nice and if you can get hold of it I'd strongly recommend > it! IMO of course 8-0 Yep, I'd concur with that advice and also counsel obtaining the Live at Club Dog tape by the same band if it's ever a possibility. > > jill (I'm just a satisfied customer, honest!) FoFP From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Tue Oct 1 13:19:08 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:19:08 BST Subject: HW: C&D Dundee phone nos. Message-ID: oops - does anyone have C&D's phone/fax numbers stored electronically that they can post to the list for me? I forgot to bring them into work with me and folk are asking.... sorry! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK Tue Oct 1 08:13:28 1996 From: EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK (Philosophical Phil) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:13:28 +0100 Subject: OFF: Another Microsoft Product Message-ID: I thought Max Wilcox's mail about the new Microsoft Panhandler software was a useful and informative review of this latest development. It was good to see lots of new products on the way. Microsoft Panhandler, as it will be known in the US, or MS Dosser (as it will be known in the UK) should shift a lot of copies. I was just a little surprised that Max didn't mention the bundled version of new software, where you get all the new programmes shipped under a plain brown wrapper, and this is known as Microsoft Pimp because someone ends up getting rich and everyone else ends up getting f**ked! Phil "The lives of great men all remind us We must lead our lives sublime And in passing leave behind us Foot prints in the sands of time" Philip Wane The Nottingham Trent University Nottingham, Not So Merry England From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Tue Oct 1 17:39:50 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:39:50 +0200 Subject: OFF:darXtar, Kingston Wall Message-ID: Hi I've found an interesting web-site; http://www.skivhugget.se it's a Swedish CD-store which sales CDs via the net. They have about 112.000 titles and among them one Kingston Wall CD("Kingston Wall" -not the one Carl are searching I think...) and one darXtar CD ("Darker"). They have very low prices so it's too bad that the site only has a Swedish version... but there is a lot of us on the list... -Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From web2831 at CHARWEB.ORG Tue Oct 1 12:00:29 1996 From: web2831 at CHARWEB.ORG (Jeremy R. Horne) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:00:29 -0400 Subject: HW: Space Ritual remaster question In-Reply-To: <199609302121.OAA10711@yoyodyne.graham.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 28 Sep 1996, Mike Fuller wrote: > I just got my Space Ritual remaster in the mail yesterday, and was > wondering about the origin of the 3 bonus tracks? > > If my memory of previous discussions serves me correctly, "You Shouldn't > Do That" was recorded at the same show but omitted because it didn't fit > on the vinyl. If I had to guess, I'd say that "Born To Go" is the the > unedited version of the "original" one, but I'm at a loss to explain > "Master Of The Universe". Different mix? Space Ritual Volume 2 > version? > > -- > Mike > Perhaps its the one from Ridicule? From skarsol at EROLS.COM Tue Oct 1 09:39:38 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:39:38 +0000 Subject: OFF: Supernatural Fairy Tales Message-ID: Andrew A. Apold wrote: > > Anyone familiar with this boxed set? A friend of mine who first got me into > Hawkwind keeps telling me this is sort of an 'essential primer' for a > neophyte in space-rock (apparently something he still considers me, as I > only have about dozen Hawkwind albums), and he'd get it himself except he > has it all already on vinyl. I recognized Gong on the set-lists, but at > $60.00 I'd like a second opinion before splurging on it. It's a 5-cd set... i have never heard of this,but now, im interested.andrew,could you get more info on this from yer friend?perhaps a catalogue number? and maybe somemore details about who is on it? thanks. rj From skarsol at EROLS.COM Tue Oct 1 09:45:47 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:45:47 +0000 Subject: HW US TOUR 97 Message-ID: Hawkwind wrote: > > At 05:52 AM 9/27/96 -0400, you wrote: > >Bill kindly informs us: > >> > >>Just heard from VERY reliable sources Hawkwind has plans to do a US tour in > >>97...My QUESS who be late spring, early summer knowing they hate the cold and > >>snow. > >> > >>regards, > >>Bill 'fingers crossed' Stewart > >> > >> > >Hey, this is great news, if true. So if it is, does that mean that > >the band found a U.S. promoter willing to put up some money to make it > >happen? Mr. Starrats, any info from your camp on this? > > > >Duane > > > There have been plans for US dates for the past 6 months but nothing has > been sorted out yet. > > Yours, > Star Rats i know the owner of an indy record label who is interested on some level. he is willing to set up gigs in the philly area of whatever size, and possibly something more.what we need now,is for hw management to give us more specific info. (what they expect to draw,howlong they wanna stay, etc.) this guy is also willing to promote the thing.advertisements,radio announcements etc. this wont work if the band doesnt cooperate.i wrote them a letter a few weeks ago,and had a good friend contact ds on the phone. havent got a useful response yet tho. can anyone help? rj From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Tue Oct 1 13:58:35 1996 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:58:35 -0400 Subject: HW: danny thompson/richard thompson question answered Message-ID: Tired of incessant posts, I asked a friend who's a good friend of Richard to clear up the question: "Danny Thompson is Richard's friend, and fellow Muslim, and NOT a child (almost same age, or else Danny is older than Richard) OK? df From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Oct 1 14:14:49 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 19:14:49 +0100 Subject: OFF:darXtar, Kingston Wall In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961001213950.008dc008@mailbox.mc.hik.se> from "Daniel Wikdahl" at Oct 1, 96 11:39:50 pm Message-ID: > I've found an interesting web-site; http://www.skivhugget.se it's a Swedi= > sh > CD-store which sales CDs via the net. > They have about 112.000 titles and among them one Kingston Wall CD("Kings= > ton > Wall" -not the one Carl are searching I think...) No, indeed that is the first KWall album. I recently scored it from some guy in Northern Ireland, of all places! It is quite good though, so I recommend that _someone_ buy it, not least since its quite rare. Kind of somewhere between Zeppelin, Hendrix, and ... Steve Hillage/Gong maybe. The third album is a lot spacier than the first, and the second one somewhere in between. I think I like the third better than the first and am still trying to rate the second (which is the one I'm looking for, but have a cassette dub of) against the third. The first album is still excellent though! > They have very low prices so it's too bad that the site only has a Swedis= > h > version... but there is a lot of us on the list... Do they take payment in credit cards :) I'm not exactly rich or anything ;) but its worth keeping in mind ... Cheers, Carl From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Oct 1 14:18:04 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 19:18:04 +0100 Subject: HW: danny thompson/richard thompson question answered In-Reply-To: <961001135834_534503331@emout15.mail.aol.com> from "DFrost8547@AOL.COM" at Oct 1, 96 01:58:35 pm Message-ID: > Tired of incessant posts, I asked a friend who's a good friend of Richard to > clear up the question: > "Danny Thompson is Richard's friend, and fellow Muslim, and NOT a child > (almost same age, or else Danny is older than Richard) > OK? Although just to be incessant :) I feel compelled to distinguish between the elder DT (the one who plays with Richard) and the elder DT's son (also named Danny) who _was_ a drummer in Hawkwind and is (presumably) younger than his father :) I think the similarity in names of father and son combined with lack of people both familiar with Hawkwind _and_ the UK folk(rock) scene led to the confusion initially. Cheers, Carl From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Tue Oct 1 16:01:31 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Le Monsieur) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 15:01:31 -0500 Subject: HW US TOUR 97 In-Reply-To: <3251208B.26E9@erols.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, SKARSOL wrote: > i know the owner of an indy record label who is interested on some > level. > he is willing to set up gigs in the philly area of whatever size, > and possibly something more.what we need now,is for hw management to > give us more specific info. > (what they expect to draw,howlong they wanna stay, etc.) > this guy is also willing to promote the thing.advertisements,radio > announcements etc. > this wont work if the band doesnt cooperate.i wrote them a letter a few > weeks ago,and had a good friend contact ds on the phone. > havent got a useful response yet tho. > can anyone help? rj Along the same lines, some people here in Texas (Mike Coleman for one [duh. :) ] and Randy from RPM Records for another) would be quite interested in promoting/advertising/etc for a concert around here. In fact, STAR_RATS, I bet you'd be quite interested in helping out from your current location as well. Come to think of it, I'm surprised Mr. Moorcock's presence in this great state hasn't brought HW here yet. Either way, with Mr.Coleman, Randy, Mr.Rats, Mr.Moorcock, and myself helping out, I think HW stands a good chance of coming down here, *esp.* if the Roswell thing works out. Damon Capehart | "As their numbers dwindled from 70 to 8, the aka Le Monsieur | dwarves began to suspect Hungry..." dcapehar at utdallas.edu | From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Wed Oct 2 11:03:52 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:03:52 +0200 Subject: OFF:darXtar, Kingston Wall Message-ID: Carl wrote: > Kind of somewhere between Zeppelin, Hendrix, and ... Steve >Hillage/Gong maybe. The third album is a lot spacier than the first, >and the second one somewhere in between. I think I like the third >better than the first and am still trying to rate the second (which >is the one I'm looking for, but have a cassette dub of) against the >third. The first album is still excellent though! This is another site of interest... http://lenkkari.cs.tut.fi/~takku ... I don't understand Finnish but it seems to be something like a CD-store on the net... they have all three Kingston Wall... but I have to wish you good luck if you're trying to order without knowing how to read the language... it could be good fun though... ;-) -Daniel (who never uses creditcards) . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From videofest at MEDIOPOLIS.DE Tue Oct 1 17:50:05 1996 From: videofest at MEDIOPOLIS.DE (VideoFest Berlin) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:50:05 +0100 Subject: wav's from audio tapes - how to? / clone's poem Message-ID: hi there, does anybody has an idea or a nifty little software that helps me to transfer audio clips from normal analogue tapes into WAV files? It's pretty easy with CD's but I don't know how to add some Calvert clips that are on tape(s) only. I'd be grateful for any hint. oh yes - and there's an updated piece on the calvert site - a new version of 'The Clone's Poem' aka the 2nd bit of 'Spirit of the Age' - go there via NEWS or LYRICS. very best, knut knut gerwers email: videofest at mediopolis.de the Robert Calvert site: http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/ VideoFest Mediopolis Berlin e.V. Potsdamer Str. 96 D - 10785 Berlin Germany tel: *30 - 262 8714 fax: *30 - 262 8713 email: videofest at mediopolis.de http://www.mediopolis.de/videofest/ From videofest at MEDIOPOLIS.DE Tue Oct 1 17:53:47 1996 From: videofest at MEDIOPOLIS.DE (VideoFest Berlin) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:53:47 +0100 Subject: Calvert's EARTH RITUAL Message-ID: hello again, and another Q: does anybody got the tape of Robert Calvert reading his second volume of poetry "The Earth Ritual"? I'd LOVE to have a copy of this - I could swap with some video or audio tapes. PLEASE get in touch if you have a copy or if you know of someone else who has. THANKS & all the best knut Knut Gerwers email: videofest at mediopolis.de the Calvert site: http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/ VideoFest Mediopolis Berlin e.V. Potsdamer Str. 96 D - 10785 Berlin Germany tel: *30 - 262 8714 fax: *30 - 262 8713 email: videofest at mediopolis.de http://www.mediopolis.de/videofest/ From skarsol at EROLS.COM Tue Oct 1 13:56:55 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:56:55 +0000 Subject: HW US TOUR 97 Message-ID: Le Monsieur wrote: > > On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, SKARSOL wrote: > > i know the owner of an indy record label who is interested on some > > level. > > he is willing to set up gigs in the philly area of whatever size, > > and possibly something more.what we need now,is for hw management to > > give us more specific info. > > (what they expect to draw,howlong they wanna stay, etc.) > > this guy is also willing to promote the thing.advertisements,radio > > announcements etc. > > this wont work if the band doesnt cooperate.i wrote them a letter a few > > weeks ago,and had a good friend contact ds on the phone. > > havent got a useful response yet tho. > > can anyone help? rj > > Along the same lines, some people here in Texas (Mike Coleman for one > [duh. :) ] and Randy from RPM Records for another) would be quite > interested in promoting/advertising/etc for a concert around here. In > fact, STAR_RATS, I bet you'd be quite interested in helping out from your > current location as well. Come to think of it, I'm surprised Mr. > Moorcock's presence in this great state hasn't brought HW here yet. > > Either way, with Mr.Coleman, Randy, Mr.Rats, Mr.Moorcock, and myself > helping out, I think HW stands a good chance of coming down here, *esp.* > if the Roswell thing works out. i read in some moorcock interview that he is not the least bit interested in working with any version of hw that doesnt include nik turner..... rj From david at MASTMOOR.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Oct 1 15:18:06 1996 From: david at MASTMOOR.DEMON.CO.UK (David Jones) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 20:18:06 +0100 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree Message-ID: Got my copy of Signify this morning from Compact Disc Services (who are a very good company, their catalogues are great). Not got all the way through it yet so I can't comment but I 've not been disappointed and the title track is tremendous. Thought you might be interested in this mail from Ivor Trueman at Delerium about what happened to the Porcupine Tree mailing list. > > >The list disappeared, as the server got hacked & then unplugged... as it was >a free service we've been a bit stumped, as it is too expensive considering >the volume to set up something that's going to cost (it's enough of a task >convincing people that the internet is worthwhile...) > >Maybe we'll find someone willing to let us have space on their server soon - >if so I'll let you know. In the meantime I'll be posting gig details to the >site... > >Best Wishes >Ivor >------DELERIUM RECORDS-------&-----FREAK EMPORIUM MAIL-ORDER----- > *More than a state of mind* Ivor Trueman > http://www.delerium.co.uk email: delerium at mail.bogo.co.uk > Tel: +44 (0)1753 893008 Fax: +44 (0)1753 892789 >------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Tue Oct 1 22:27:21 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:27:21 -0400 Subject: wav's from audio tapes - how to? / clone's poem In-Reply-To: <199610012150.WAA15510@NS.Contrib.Com> Message-ID: Knut, > does anybody has an idea or a nifty little software that helps me to > transfer audio clips from normal analogue tapes into WAV files? > It's pretty easy with CD's but I don't know how to add some Calvert clips > that are on tape(s) only. > I'd be grateful for any hint. If you have a PC clone with a sound card (e.g. SoundBlaster clone), all the ones I've see have a Line In input. For a standard separates cassette deck, what you need is a 2 x RCA Phono -> 3.5mm stereo jack plug to connect your tape deck to the sound card. (These are usually bundled with portable CD players to allow you to connect the CD player to a regular amplifier. You can get them at any audio/consumer electronics shop.) Plug the RCA connectors to the line out (play) terminals of your cassette deck, and the 3.5mm stereo jack to the line in socket of the sound card. Having physically connected up your tape deck, you can use the recording software bundled with the sound card to record cassette material and save into .WAV format. You'll need to use the mixer program to set the recording level of the line in jack, but, beyond that, you should have no problems. Again, I know of no PC sound cards that do *not* come bundled with mixer and recording software (albeit often primitive). The software you use to record from CDs is likely the same program you can use to record from the cassette deck. I hope this helps. Cheers, Paul. obCD: Kyuss, _Welcome to Sky Valley_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. Kyuss: it's why subwoofers were invented. From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Oct 2 08:16:37 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:16:37 +0100 Subject: OFF:darXtar, Kingston Wall In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961002150352.008d4ba4@mailbox.mc.hik.se> from "Daniel Wikdahl" at Oct 2, 96 05:03:52 pm Message-ID: > This is another site of interest... http://lenkkari.cs.tut.fi/~takku > ... I don't understand Finnish but it seems to be something like a CD-sto= > re > on the net... they have all three Kingston Wall... but I have to wish you > good luck if you're trying to order without knowing how to read the > language... it could be good fun though... ;-) Well, I may be missing something my not knowing Finnish, but is that the correct address? When I went to it I got an odd-looking page with three lines of Finnish and a strange picture (and no links from this page to anywhere else ...) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Wed Oct 2 15:06:28 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:06:28 +0200 Subject: OFF:no mail??? Message-ID: Is Eudora fucking with me again or are there no mail to get??? -Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Wed Oct 2 11:33:08 1996 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:33:08 -0500 Subject: HW: SA and CYM Message-ID: When I was at Tower Records yesterday, I was able to pick up both _Sonic Attack_ and _Choose Your Masques_ for $12.99 each. There is a sticker on the shrink wrap that says TOWER IMPORT, but they looks like the standard Griffin releases to me. Are these really imports besides being from Canada? Frank ObCD: Hawkwind - Sonic Attack -- ============================================================================== Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 0.666 - Number of the Millibeast. From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Wed Oct 2 18:03:47 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 00:03:47 +0200 Subject: wav's from audio tapes - how to? / clone's poem Message-ID: Paul wrote: > >Kyuss: it's why subwoofers were invented. > > Yes!!! -Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From D.K.Hardman at CITY.AC.UK Wed Oct 2 12:22:40 1996 From: D.K.Hardman at CITY.AC.UK (Hardman DK) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:22:40 +0100 Subject: back again! In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961002220347.008db1a8@mailbox.mc.hik.se> Message-ID: Hi I've been away from the list for over a month, and just wanted to register my presence! what's happening with the BOC end of things? Dave Hardman From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 2 17:34:16 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:34:16 BST Subject: HW: danny thompson/richard thompson question answered In-Reply-To: DFrost8547@aol.com's message of Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:58:35 -0400 Message-ID: DFrost8547 at aol.com writes: > Tired of incessant posts, I asked a friend who's a good friend of Richard to > clear up the question: > > "Danny Thompson is Richard's friend, and fellow Muslim, and NOT a child > (almost same age, or else Danny is older than Richard) > OK? > yeah, sorry, the confusion of names was mine - though I should have known better since I was seriously into Folk/Rock for several years! So, yes, Richard Thompson and Danny Thompson (both of them) are not related in any way except for a coincidental similarity of names. However the original question was "what was the (if any) relationship between Richard Thompson's acknowledgement of thanks to Dave Brock and the Dave Brock of Hawkwind. Are they the same and, if so, why the acknowledgement?" Is it possible your friend would be able to answer this too - if so I'd be interested! thanks jill > df ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US Wed Oct 2 12:37:13 1996 From: egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US (Ed Gallagher) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:37:13 -0500 Subject: OFF:no mail??? In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961002190628.008d3840@mailbox.mc.hik.se> from "Daniel Wikdahl" at Oct 2, 96 09:06:28 pm Message-ID: > > Is Eudora fucking with me again or are there no mail to get??? > > -Daniel Not much going on it seems. -- "If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein Edward Gallagher Internet egallagh at harper.cc.il.us Advanced Technology Specialist William Rainey Harper College Information Systems/User Service Pager (708) 962-4886 1200 W. Algonquin Rd. FAX (847) 925-6036 Palatine, IL 60067 Old Fashion Way (847) 925-6134 From swann at MINDVOX.COM Wed Oct 2 16:11:46 1996 From: swann at MINDVOX.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:11:46 -0400 Subject: wav's from audio tapes - how to? / clone's poem In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961002220347.008db1a8@mailbox.mc.hik.se> from "Daniel Wikdahl" at Oct 3, 96 00:03:47 am Message-ID: Daniel Wikdahl writes: > > Paul wrote: > > > >Kyuss: it's why subwoofers were invented. > > > > > Yes!!! -Daniel Hey Paul, ever listen to the Melvin's "Joan of Arc"? It's heavy like a falling planet. I think it stretches the ability of digital technology to capture the sheer weightiness of it. :-) Semi-unrelated note: there's a little ditty of theirs on Stoner Witch that always breaks me up: "Junebug". It's... ummm... how to describe it? Rythm by Metallica, melodic lead by The Ventures. (I agree about Kyuss, though - they make use of a good heavy groove like nobody's business.) Steve From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Wed Oct 2 16:19:09 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Le Monsieur) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:19:09 -0500 Subject: HW US TOUR 97 In-Reply-To: <32515B67.7437@erols.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, SKARSOL wrote: > Damon wrote: > > Either way, with Mr.Coleman, Randy, Mr.Rats, Mr.Moorcock, and myself > > helping out, I think HW stands a good chance of coming down here, *esp.* > > if the Roswell thing works out. > i read in some moorcock interview that he is not the least bit > interested in working with any version of hw that doesnt include > nik turner..... rj D'oh! Well, we still have Coleman, Randy, and Mr.Rats.... anyone else? Damon Capehart | "As their numbers dwindled from 70 to 8, the aka Le Monsieur | dwarves began to suspect Hungry..." dcapehar at utdallas.edu | From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Wed Oct 2 16:40:41 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Le Monsieur) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:40:41 -0500 Subject: HW: SA and CYM In-Reply-To: <9610021033.ZM6249@unknown.zmail.host> Message-ID: On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Frank Weil wrote: > When I was at Tower Records yesterday, I was able to pick up both > _Sonic Attack_ and _Choose Your Masques_ for $12.99 each. There is a > sticker on the shrink wrap that says TOWER IMPORT, but they looks like > the standard Griffin releases to me. Are these really imports besides > being from Canada? Nope. As domestic as you or me. (Well, me anyway)... Damon Capehart | "As their numbers dwindled from 70 to 8, the aka Le Monsieur | dwarves began to suspect Hungry..." dcapehar at utdallas.edu | From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Wed Oct 2 16:59:30 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:59:30 +0200 Subject: OFF:darXtar, Kingston Wall Message-ID: Carl wrote: > > Well, I may be missing something my not knowing Finnish, but >is that the correct address? When I went to it I got an odd-looking >page with three lines of Finnish and a strange picture (and no links >from this page to anywhere else ...) > Ooops, try this one instead: http://lenkkari.cs.tut.fi/~takku/aakkos/KINGSTON_WALL.html Voivitto! :-) -Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From Chris_Baxley at SONYMUSIC.COM Wed Oct 2 16:57:41 1996 From: Chris_Baxley at SONYMUSIC.COM (Chris Baxley) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:57:41 -0700 Subject: off/other: The Banana Splits' eponymous lp Message-ID: Allan writes: > A highly off-topic query for you: I borrowed the _Saturday Morning: Cartoons' Greatest Hits_ cd from a friend of mine, which has on it a cover of "The Tra la la > Song (One Banana, Two Banana)" by Liz Phair/Material > Issue. All well and good, and a real blast to hear (I'm possibly a > bigger Banana Splits fan than I am a Moorcock fan, if you can imagine > that ;-). However, what truly piqued my interest was the liner notes that mention an eponymous lp with songs by Barry White and other noted composers. Copyright > info in the lyrics shows (c) 1969 Unichappell Music Inc (BMI)/Anihanbar Music CO (BMI) (which I presume is Hanna Barbera, now apparently a Turner company). > I'd love to get this. Any ideas as to where I could track one down?? I'm really not even sure where to start. Any help would be appreciated! I have the CD "We're the Banana Splits" with bonus songs from the (UK?) cartoon "Here come the Beagles". I got it from Midnight Records in NY (http:// www.midnightrecords.com) who had it in stock as of 2 mos. ago, but it does say "limited edition of 1000 copies" on it, so.. If you are unable to locate this CD, I'd be happy to make you a tape. There are 31 songs on the disc, all from the original shows, and most of it is pretty awesome, in a 60's bubblegum cheeze psyche kind of way. Unfortunately, the booklet contains no information as to the contributing artists (though there are some cool pix from the shows.) Has anyone else seen the Ren and Stimpy episode about Jerry the Belly Button Elf, where Stimpy crawls inside his own navel and ends up descending into a psychedelic netherworld? The song that accompanies his descent into said netherworld reminds me of some of the music on this disc. In fact that episode itself is pretty incredible! Also the Dickies used to do a great version of the "Tra la la" BS theme song. Chris chris_baxley at sonymusic.com From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Wed Oct 2 17:42:43 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 23:42:43 +0200 Subject: HW: what I finally bought... Message-ID: I asked you guys which HW'CDs would be best for a newbie like me and I think you suggested allmost every HW album... So I ordered "In Search of", "Hall of" and "Levitation"... I already had "Roadhawks", "Friends..." and "Love In Space". I think "Hall of..." ROCKS HARD!!! :-) And "In Search of Space" has some fine moments, (it's that kind of album you know will start to "grow" and get better and better the more you're listening to it). :-) But Levitation... where's the BOC-connection you were talking about... and it sounds like Sting is singing (BURR, huvaligen, hemska tanke!)... :-( How to do to enjoy this one too? Play it backwards and smoke some pot maybe? -Daniel PS "Urban Guerilla" is still the best HW song I've heard -so what will I have to buy next? DS . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From cipriano at COURANT.INFI.NET Wed Oct 2 13:48:46 1996 From: cipriano at COURANT.INFI.NET (Cipriano) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:48:46 +0000 Subject: tape tree Message-ID: Hi Anyone interested in starting a tape tree for Hawkwind? I only have Quark Strangeness and Charm and am not sure which ones to buy. I would like to sample some before buying the cd's. Thanks. Paul Cipriano From jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK Wed Oct 2 18:38:57 1996 From: jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 23:38:57 +0100 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, David Jones wrote: > Got my copy of Signify this morning from Compact Disc Services (who are a > very good company, their catalogues are great). > > Not got all the way through it yet so I can't comment but I 've not been > disappointed and the title track is tremendous. I saw them do that one last time they were in Cambridge, and hopefully I will again on Nov 15th; I've been priming Carl by telling him it's really rather heavy, but what with PT's ability to lose that a touch in the studio, can you confirm it? Jazza (who's got Moonloop pounding through the earphones _right now_) P.S. Anyone reckon there's enough PT discussion to make a subject header worthwhile? There has to be more than for Nikwind, which I see is a subject flag, and same goes for the Brain Surgeons, although I expect that to change as soon as the album comes out... /_______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 327450) jaj20 at hermes.cam.ac.uk | | ======================================================================| | "`It's a Venusian space bassist,' said Turner the bird being." | | (Hawkwind, sleeve notes to 'Doremi Fasol Latido') | \_______________________________________________________________________/ From jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK Wed Oct 2 18:43:38 1996 From: jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 23:43:38 +0100 Subject: HW: what I finally bought... In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961002214243.008e2378@mailbox.mc.hik.se> Message-ID: On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Daniel Wikdahl wrote: > But Levitation... where's the BOC-connection you were talking about... and > it sounds like Sting is singing (BURR, huvaligen, hemska tanke!)... :-( > How to do to enjoy this one too? > Play it backwards and smoke some pot maybe? I don't know: I turned down a copy of Levitation this summer in order to get Quark, Strangeness and Charm, largely because I've got all bar two of the tracks on the Spirit of the Age Elite compilation. They seem to me like excellent prog. rock, and to me the question whether you call that Hawkwind and mark it as one of their phases, or whether you write the thing off as Lloyd-Langton and Brock making sure they've covered _that_ base. I can listen to the stuff fine, and I think Levitation's possibly Hawkwind's best song musically ever. But there _are_ times when you really really need to play Space Ritual...! Yours, Jon /_______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 327450) jaj20 at hermes.cam.ac.uk | | ======================================================================| | "`It's a Venusian space bassist,' said Turner the bird being." | | (Hawkwind, sleeve notes to 'Doremi Fasol Latido') | \_______________________________________________________________________/ From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Wed Oct 2 19:11:11 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:11:11 -0400 Subject: tape tree Message-ID: ...."Calling Dr. Swann! Calling Dr. Swann! You have a new patient in the lobby!" "Ahhh, Dr. Guido, lets' administer this young pup a heavy dose of "Live Chronicles" followed by "Space Ritual" and "Doremi Fasolatido" aurally. If he doesn't respond to that, "Levitation" and, oh crap! It's that old geezer Shipley! He thinks he knows something...." "What, you aren't trying him out on "Warrior On The Edge Of Time" or "Hall Of The Mountain Grill"?!? They may be old, but they are tried and true! They were good enough for me as a boy!!! And toss in a dose of "Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music"! A little controversial, but a right bracing tonic!!" (..to be continued by one of the wags on this list, I'm sure!) Actually, it would be better to ask for recommendations instead of a tape tree. IMHO, tape trees are more appropriate for material that is not in common circulation (AKA, bootlegs or concert tapes). Or, perhaps, a sampler tape, if you let us know what your musical tastes are. We all want to keep the money flowing to HW thru the legal channels, so that they will come on tour again this year and visit all the little burgs in which we habitate. obCDPlayer: Spiral Realms / Crystal Jungles Of Eos (I think that this is my favorite HW-related release of all time!!) Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com ---------- From: Cipriano[SMTP:cipriano at COURANT.INFI.NET] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 1996 1:48 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: tape tree Hi Anyone interested in starting a tape tree for Hawkwind? I only have Quark Strangeness and Charm and am not sure which ones to buy. I would like to sample some before buying the cd's. Thanks. Paul Cipriano -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2505 bytes Desc: not available URL: From khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU Wed Oct 2 19:19:11 1996 From: khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Keith A Henderson) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:19:11 -0400 Subject: OFF: was PTree, now headers In-Reply-To: from "Jon Jarrett" at Oct 2, 96 11:38:57 pm Message-ID: Jazza suggested... > P.S. Anyone reckon there's enough PT discussion to make a subject header > worthwhile? There has to be more than for Nikwind, which I see is a > subject flag, and same goes for the Brain Surgeons, although I expect that > to change as soon as the album comes out... How 'bout something a little more encompassing - I'd suggest 'SPACE' for anything on the topic of space rock music/news/info that doesn't relate specficially to HW Friends & Relations. That could include PTree, darXtar, Gong, ArcMet, Sundial, Ozrics, the entire Delerium family, Amon Duul II, etc. That would make 'OFF' used mainly for stuff that's truly off-topic, ie. non-music related (for the most part). How 'bout it? What're the current headers, anyway?? HW BOC BRAIN NIK OFF (is OTHER also still around??) Any more? Keith H. (FAA) From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Wed Oct 2 19:21:23 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:21:23 -0400 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree Message-ID: As much as I would like to discuss PT (and Ship Of Fools, Ozrics, etc.), I think that this discussion is more appropriate over on the "irock" list. Dissenting / agreeing opinions welcomed. obCDPlayer: Camel / Never Let Go Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com ---------- From: Jon Jarrett[SMTP:jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 1996 6:38 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: OFF: Porcupine Tree On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, David Jones wrote: > Got my copy of Signify this morning from Compact Disc Services (who are a > very good company, their catalogues are great). > > Not got all the way through it yet so I can't comment but I 've not been > disappointed and the title track is tremendous. I saw them do that one last time they were in Cambridge, and hopefully I will again on Nov 15th; I've been priming Carl by telling him it's really rather heavy, but what with PT's ability to lose that a touch in the studio, can you confirm it? Jazza (who's got Moonloop pounding through the earphones _right now_) P.S. Anyone reckon there's enough PT discussion to make a subject header worthwhile? There has to be more than for Nikwind, which I see is a subject flag, and same goes for the Brain Surgeons, although I expect that to change as soon as the album comes out... /_______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 327450) jaj20 at hermes.cam.ac.uk | | ======================================================================| | "`It's a Venusian space bassist,' said Turner the bird being." | | (Hawkwind, sleeve notes to 'Doremi Fasol Latido') | \_______________________________________________________________________/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2511 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mjf at GRAHAM.COM Wed Oct 2 19:26:10 1996 From: mjf at GRAHAM.COM (Mike Fuller) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:26:10 -0700 Subject: HW: what I finally bought... In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961002214243.008e2378@mailbox.mc.hik.se> Message-ID: >>>>> On Wed, 2 Oct 1996 23:42:43 +0200, Daniel Wikdahl >>>>> said: Daniel> But Levitation... where's the BOC-connection you were talking Daniel> about... and it sounds like Sting is singing (BURR, huvaligen, Daniel> hemska tanke!)... :-( How to do to enjoy this one too? Funny you should mention that. For what it's worth, I was looking around on CDNOW, and they give Levitation a 1 on a scale of 1 to 9. Daniel> Play it backwards and smoke some pot maybe? Noitativel ( - Apologies to Dave Brock - ) Return no there's Now it take learn, to chance this you offer I Back turning no There's starts, it once repel-attract, force, magnetic Levitation called it's Deviation for cause no fascination, this have I Air the in up float and rise I chair, this upon sit I although Dream no is this Eyes, your rub nor scream, and start to cause no there's Levitation called it's Deviation for cause no fascination, this have I Compare to other no there's air, on float water, on walk I Define not shadows, not cast shine, will I darkness the in -- Mike From mordru at MAGG.NET Wed Oct 2 19:39:17 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:39:17 -0400 Subject: HW: what I finally bought... Message-ID: >I asked you guys which HW'CDs would be best for a newbie like me and I think >you suggested allmost every HW album... >So I ordered "In Search of", "Hall of" and "Levitation"... I already had >"Roadhawks", "Friends..." and "Love In Space". > >I think "Hall of..." ROCKS HARD!!! :-) >And "In Search of Space" has some fine moments, (it's that kind of album you >know will start to "grow" and get better and better the more you're >listening to it). :-) > >But Levitation... where's the BOC-connection you were talking about... and >it sounds like Sting is singing (BURR, huvaligen, hemska tanke!)... :-( >How to do to enjoy this one too? >Play it backwards and smoke some pot maybe? > > -Daniel > >PS "Urban Guerilla" is still the best HW song I've heard -so what will I >have to buy next? DS Based on your preferences I can gather from your message, I think that there is no doubt 'Church of Hawkwind' is where you should go next. whoops. heh. sorry. While a fine album, it is further in the direction of Levitation. Hmm, I dunno. Space Ritual, since you don't seem to have it on there. Perhaps 'Warrior' and 'Quark' would be good bridges to get you from Hall to Levitation. If you want a BOC connection, 'Chronicle of the Black Sword' & 'Live Chronicles' have plenty, since there's the Moorcock bridge (and 'Black Blade' would fit right in), as well as... lessee, there was a song on there that Moorcock wrote the lyrics for BOC, they didn't use it and it ended up on Live Chronicles I think. But get ready for a drop-off in the quality of Drums from Levitation... =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK Wed Oct 2 20:11:36 1996 From: jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 01:11:36 +0100 Subject: OFF: PT Header? In-Reply-To: <01BBB096.EBF4E9E0@dynamic-5.async.pyramid.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Craig A. Shipley wrote: > As much as I would like to discuss PT (and Ship Of Fools, Ozrics, etc.), > I think that this discussion is more appropriate over on the "irock" list. > Dissenting / agreeing opinions welcomed. Well, that's why I asked about headers. In the absence of a PT mailing list again, perhaps we should try and up the traffic on BOC-L _even more_... Jon (listening to HW now, so getting back on topic) ObCD: The Fall - 'Cerebral Caustic' /_______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 327450) jaj20 at hermes.cam.ac.uk | | ======================================================================| | "`It's a Venusian space bassist,' said Turner the bird being." | | (Hawkwind, sleeve notes to 'Doremi Fasol Latido') | \_______________________________________________________________________/ From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Wed Oct 2 20:12:11 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 00:12:11 UT Subject: what I finally bought... Message-ID: Daniel Your tastes seem sound :), so fill in the rest of the Lemmy albums - _Doremi_ and _Space Ritual_ (both remastered), and _Warrior_ (but be prepared for some funny poetry). Then get _PXR5_, if you can find it. I *tried* to warn you about _Levitation_... :) - Andy From gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU Wed Oct 2 19:22:48 1996 From: gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU (Guido Vacano) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:22:48 -0400 Subject: OFF: PT Header? In-Reply-To: from "Jon Jarrett" at Oct 3, 96 01:11:36 am Message-ID: Jon sez-- > > On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Craig A. Shipley wrote: > > > As much as I would like to discuss PT (and Ship Of Fools, Ozrics, etc.), > > I think that this discussion is more appropriate over on the "irock" list. > > Dissenting / agreeing opinions welcomed. > > Well, that's why I asked about headers. In the absence of a PT > mailing list again, perhaps we should try and up the traffic on BOC-L > _even more_... > Jon (listening to HW now, so getting back on topic) Jeez, I hope you aren't serious! UP the traffic on BOC-L!?! Sorry, I agree with Dr. "Pops" Shipley. BOC-L is for Hawkwind, BOC, stuff related to the first two, and minor excursions into demented other things. You could start a PT mailing list. Guido obGOODread(soFARanyWAY)--Memnoch the Devil by Anne Rice obCDplayer--Lather (Leather?) by Frank Zappa -- If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Wed Oct 2 21:28:39 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:28:39 -0400 Subject: OFF: PT Header? Message-ID: ---------- From: Jon Jarrett[SMTP:jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 1996 8:11 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: OFF: PT Header? On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Craig A. Shipley wrote: > As much as I would like to discuss PT (and Ship Of Fools, Ozrics, etc.), > I think that this discussion is more appropriate over on the "irock" list. > Dissenting / agreeing opinions welcomed. Well, that's why I asked about headers. In the absence of a PT mailing list again, perhaps we should try and up the traffic on BOC-L _even more_... Jon (listening to HW now, so getting back on topic) ObCD: The Fall - 'Cerebral Caustic' Jon, I have NO problem with discussing PT (or the others) here, as I think that they all fall into what I call "thinking persons' rock" (oh, aren't I PC tonight?!?) and they all share a common "spacey-ness". I think if Ben and the guiding spirit of The Mighty One, His Most Divine Swann-ness says it's groovy, lets' do it! (Hey, but aren't we all Steve? We can approve our behavior and not have to answer to anyone except our selves, which is just an external extension of our Swann-ness! This is cool! Time to pray for divine guidance! "Oh Spirit of The Most Divine and Gnarly Steve, please send down to your humble followers your words of divine coolness and also your Social Security and bank account number; the humble ones' need to order some new checks and a credit card or three...So be it, ya' bums" :-) objCDPlayer : Anglagard / Epilog. Mellotrons RULE! Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com /_______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 327450) jaj20 at hermes.cam.ac.uk | | ======================================================================| | "`It's a Venusian space bassist,' said Turner the bird being." | | (Hawkwind, sleeve notes to 'Doremi Fasol Latido') | \_______________________________________________________________________/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2659 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK Wed Oct 2 22:02:59 1996 From: jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 03:02:59 +0100 Subject: OFF: PT Header? In-Reply-To: <9610022322.AA19625@beaver.mbb.wesleyan.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Guido Vacano wrote: > Jeez, I hope you aren't serious! UP the traffic on BOC-L!?! Well, no. Not about that, at any rate. > Sorry, I agree with Dr. "Pops" Shipley. BOC-L is for Hawkwind, BOC, stuff > related to the first two, and minor excursions into demented other things. > > You could start a PT mailing list. Mmm. Thing is, and reason I mentioned it, is that there's always a lot of PT traffic in the OFF-zone, and I thought the filtering could be improved, considering how little-used are some filters which are there for just the same reason (how much Nikwind traffic is there? I just realised I'm set to ignore it, so there could be loads and I wouldn't have seen it - oog). I wasn't trying to alter the topic concentration. Hmm. Guess I dragged myself off-topic there. But it's very late over here. ObCD: Weezer, 'Weezer'. P.S. Having been informed by Carl of the universality of the great Swann, I'd like to know if being signed off at the time deprives me of my chance to be Steve? /______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 327450) jaj20 at hermes.cam.ac.uk | | =====================================================================| |"There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know"| \______________________________________________________________________/ From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Thu Oct 3 04:05:29 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:05:29 +0100 Subject: HW: what I finally bought... Message-ID: Daniel ! >But Levitation... where's the BOC-connection you were talking about... >and >it sounds like Sting is singing (BURR, huvaligen, hemska tanke!)... :-( >How to do to enjoy this one too? >Play it backwards and smoke some pot maybe? Are you really sure it was LEVITATION you were listening to ???? It is IMHO one of HAWKWINDS best records. Just put your headphone on, start LEVITATION again, lean back and relax..... Bernhard From dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM Thu Oct 3 05:17:11 1996 From: dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM (Jeremy Dacombe) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:17:11 EDT Subject: HW: Address Message-ID: --- Received from LIMEMO1.DACOMBJ 4709 03/10/96 10.16 -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBMMAIL INTERNET GATEWAY INTERNET --- Received from LES.DACOMBJ 4709 02/10/96 08.29 --- Received from LES.DACOMBJ 4709 26/09/96 08.40 -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBMMAIL INTERNET GATEWAY INTERNET Hi, Sorry to be bothering everybody, but I've lost the address of Paul Mitchell who lives in Bath. Anybody got it? Jez From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Oct 3 07:55:20 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:55:20 +0100 Subject: OFF: PT Header? In-Reply-To: <9610022322.AA19625@beaver.mbb.wesleyan.edu> Message-ID: > You could start a PT mailing list. Or simply wait for Ivor and Co. to get one back up. In the meantime irock is good for general rock weirdness. Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Oct 3 08:49:09 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:49:09 +0100 Subject: OFF: New Motorhead Message-ID: My gods! Look at the cover for the new Motorhead album (due worldwide on 15 October)! I think .... I think Lemmy *shaved*! Probably a brilliant album though ... Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************* Carl Edlund Anderson "So that's Terra. Oohwee, cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk look out wenchlings, here http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html come the Hawklords." Dept. of ASNAC, University of Cambridge -Lord Lemmy (Hawkwind) ************************************************************************* From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Thu Oct 3 14:50:02 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:50:02 +0200 Subject: OFF: PT Header? Message-ID: Carl wrote: At 12:55 PM 10/3/96 +0100, you wrote: >> You could start a PT mailing list. > > Or simply wait for Ivor and Co. to get one back up. In the >meantime irock is good for general rock weirdness. > I'm a member of a Swedish journalism mailingslist called MEDIA and I just think I've to say that even without new headers the discipline is far better on BOC-l than on MEDIA! And it's allowed to have fun on this list too, and that's really something I appreciate (...and how did I spell that one??? -Jon what's the correct spelling?) BOC-Love -Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Thu Oct 3 10:15:14 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:15:14 EST Subject: OFF: New Motorhead Message-ID: > My gods! Look at the cover for the new Motorhead album > (due worldwide on 15 October)! > > I think .... I think Lemmy *shaved*! > > Probably a brilliant album though ... > > Cheers, > Carl > Nah, some clever boy at the record company had the pic air-brushed! Only had the pleasure of seeing Lemmy once, but it was memorable. It was right after the release of 1916, and they were playing the estimatble [albeit tastelessly named] 'Operation Rock 'n' Roll' tour which featured Judas Priest as headliners, supporting their 'Painkiller' album. Obviously, someone thought it okay to borrow imagery from the horrible operation desert storm and inexplicably incorporate [!] it into a rock tour. JP even included a very militant song on Painkiller--'One Shot at Glory,' an excellent if jingoistic tune... Anyway, Lemmy introduced a song from the album, and remarked "you'll be sure to hear this one on MTV...' and then offered a familiar uni- digital salute for punctuation. The crowd went bullshit, and Motorhead was amazing the whole time onstage. Any Motorhead experts out there able to tell me the band's lineup for that tour? theo From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Thu Oct 3 09:46:09 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:46:09 -0400 Subject: OFF: New Motorhead In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Carl wrote: > My gods! Look at the cover for the new Motorhead album > (due worldwide on 15 October)! > > I think .... I think Lemmy *shaved*! Somebody from the list must have put him up to it, so we could have a HW mirror question to the perennial "When did Buck shave off his 'tache??" :-) Cheers, Paul. obCD: Gong, _Gong Est Mort_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 3 15:03:59 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:03:59 BST Subject: OFF: Glastonbury '97 Message-ID: Michael Eavis has stated that there will be a Glastonbury Festival in 1997. Some of the land previously given over to parking will be used to accomodate another 20,000 revellers. Extra parking will be available off site and a Park & Ride system set up. Not good news for those of us who take several cases of beer. FoFP From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Oct 3 10:07:06 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:07:06 +0100 Subject: OFF: New Motorhead In-Reply-To: <151CF30328F@hawk.syr.edu> from "Ted Jackson jr. EL 84" at Oct 3, 96 09:15:14 am Message-ID: > Only had the pleasure of seeing Lemmy once, but it was memorable. It > was right after the release of 1916, and they were playing the > estimatble [albeit tastelessly named] 'Operation Rock 'n' Roll' tour > Any Motorhead experts > out there able to tell me the band's lineup for that tour? Motorexpert, no ;) but I'm pretty sure that would have been last outing for the Lemmy/Campbell/Burston/Taylor lineup. A fine one it was, too. Mind you, I'm not sure that the current Lemmy/Campbell/Dee line-up doesn't edge out the "classic" Lemmy/Clarke/Taylor line-up! The current line-up may not sound as radically new as the "classic" one, but gods--I think they probably rock more! Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK Thu Oct 3 11:28:41 1996 From: EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK (Philosophical Phil) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:28:41 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind and Bjork Message-ID: Can anyone remember the name of the Sugarcubes (Icelandic band that Bjork orginally became famous with) track that appeared on the Hawkwind organised double album of festival bands. I think it was called Traitor, it was included in the pressing by mistake, and, though some of you won't believe this, it's actually a really good track. If I remember rightly the record company had to withdraw and destroy those albums and re-issue them sans Sugarcubes. It came to mind while reading the postings and now it's bugging me. The albums aPhil From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 3 17:42:33 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:42:33 BST Subject: OFF: Glastonbury '97 In-Reply-To: M Holmes's message of Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:03:59 BST Message-ID: M Holmes writes: > Michael Eavis has stated that there will be a Glastonbury Festival in > 1997. Some of the land previously given over to parking will be used to > accomodate another 20,000 revellers. Extra parking will be available off > site and a Park & Ride system set up. > > Not good news for those of us who take several cases of beer. So persuade Hawkwind to play in the Car Park (outside the gates) and you can put up a tent right next to the car 8-) Just a thought... jill > FoFP ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 3 17:53:56 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:53:56 BST Subject: Hawkwind and Bjork In-Reply-To: Philosophical Phil's message of Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:28:41 +0100 Message-ID: Philosophical Phil writes: > Can anyone remember the name of the Sugarcubes (Icelandic band that Bjork > orginally became famous with) track that appeared on the Hawkwind organised > double album of festival bands. I think it was called Traitor, it was included > in the pressing by mistake, and, though some of you won't believe this, it's > actually a really good track. If I remember rightly the record company had to > withdraw and destroy those albums and re-issue them sans Sugarcubes. > It came to mind while reading the postings and now it's bugging me. The albums > aPhil oh - I know, that's the Traveller's Aid Trust album. I think Brian Tawn has the info written down somewhere, I'll see if I can find it again. Apparently the track name was never printed on the album cover itself but some of the vinyls were pressed including it so the only way to tell if you've got the extra track is to count the number of tracks on the vinyl and see if there's one extra! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 3 17:57:23 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:57:23 BST Subject: HW: Victoria Album Question In-Reply-To: Johan Edlundh's message of Sun, 29 Sep 1996 18:26:28 +0200 Message-ID: Johan Edlundh writes: > hi, > this is taken from the BOC-l discography: > > ---------------------------- > 1983 Hawkwind - Victoria double album > * This was a Spanish album rereleased in Britain by Flicknife. It has > * mostly Flicknife releases on it: > ---------------------------- > > was this album really released in UK by Flicknife? oh dear - I hate it when people ask questions I can't answer 8-(( I don't know! I didn't think so but maybe it was... Can't help, sorry! jill > \\joe ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Oct 3 13:32:46 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:32:46 +0100 Subject: Hawkwind and Bjork In-Reply-To: <96100316284097@newvax.ntu.ac.uk> from "Philosophical Phil" at Oct 3, 96 04:28:41 pm Message-ID: > Can anyone remember the name of the Sugarcubes (Icelandic band that Bjork > orginally became famous with) track that appeared on the Hawkwind organised > double album of festival bands. I think it was called Traitor, it was included > in the pressing by mistake, and, though some of you won't believe this, it's > actually a really good track. I remember hearing about this, but never encountered the actual item. And of course "Traitor" was a great track--the whole first 'Cubes album was excellent (the second weren't bad, especially the Icelandic version, but the third was crap and the last doesn't count, partially due to being remixes and partially due to being unspeakably awful). I actually bought the first Bjork solo album, but eventually ditched it--not my thing, and not at all as good as early 'Cubes or Kukl (I think I have their only two LPs). I used to be way active on the old Sugarcubes email list, but abandoned ship when it became the domain of no-lifes drooling over Bjork ;) Damned if this has anything to do with the _TAT_ pressing error :) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************* Carl Edlund Anderson "Ein var tha tunga a Englandi sem i Noregi ok i ASNAC Department Danmorku. En tha skiptust tungur i Englandi Univeristy of Cambridge er Vilhjalmr bastardr vann England. Gekk thadan Cambridge, England af i Englandi valska er hann var thadan aettadr" cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk - Gunnlaugs saga ormstungu, Kap. 7 ************************************************************************* From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Oct 3 04:36:24 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:36:24 +0100 Subject: HW: what I finally bought... In-Reply-To: <199610022326.QAA03632@yoyodyne.graham.com> Message-ID: In message <199610022326.QAA03632 at yoyodyne.graham.com>, Mike Fuller writes > >Funny you should mention that. For what it's worth, I was looking >around on CDNOW, and they give Levitation a 1 on a scale of 1 to 9. > Would they care to settle this on the pavement, like gentlemen? -- Jon Browne From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Thu Oct 3 13:49:20 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 19:49:20 +0200 Subject: Hawkwind and Bjork Message-ID: >> Can anyone remember the name of the Sugarcubes (Icelandic band that Bjork >> orginally became famous with) track that appeared on the Hawkwind organised >> double album of festival bands. I think it was called Traitor, it was included >> in the pressing by mistake, and, though some of you won't believe this, it's >> actually a really good track. If I remember rightly the record company had to >> withdraw and destroy those albums and re-issue them sans Sugarcubes. > >oh - I know, that's the Traveller's Aid Trust album. I think Brian >Tawn has the info written down somewhere, I'll see if I can find it >again. > >Apparently the track name was never printed on the album cover itself >but some of the vinyls were pressed including it so the only way to tell >if you've got the extra track is to count the number of tracks on the >vinyl and see if there's one extra! I got both vinyl variations, and there's a big difference between the sleeves. My 'Sugarcube' TAT has the name "HAWKWIND" written in orange over the front cover TAT logo, the "shelf side" entitles the album to "T.A.T." HAWKWIND, and back side has only the track names printed to the 4 vinyl sides. When you see it for the first time, you may think this is a Hawkwind album. My 'Non Sugarcube' TAT has just the TAT logo and 'name circle' on front cover, 'shelf side' claims just "T.A.T." and back cover includes group names to the track lists. Both those copies were bought when TAT was brand new. The labels are identical. Rob Godwin talks in the Illustated Collector's Guide book about two different booklets - both 16pg - both mine is 32pg - anyone who has seen the 16pg one? \\joe >jill > >=========================================================================== >J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk > ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From swann at MINDVOX.COM Thu Oct 3 14:18:04 1996 From: swann at MINDVOX.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:18:04 -0400 Subject: HW: what I finally bought... In-Reply-To: <0mVIfFAIs3UyEwke@comics.demon.co.uk> from "Jon Browne" at Oct 3, 96 09:36:24 am Message-ID: Jon Browne writes: > > In message <199610022326.QAA03632 at yoyodyne.graham.com>, Mike Fuller > writes > > > >Funny you should mention that. For what it's worth, I was looking > >around on CDNOW, and they give Levitation a 1 on a scale of 1 to 9. > > > Would they care to settle this on the pavement, like gentlemen? It's rated based on customer feedback through their Web site. You know Andy Gilham wore out a couple of mouse buttons on *that* project: "1, 1, 1, you're gonna be a 1, damn you!!!" ;-) Steve swann at panix.com From pitkin at MARYWOOD1.MARYWOOD.EDU Thu Oct 3 15:13:41 1996 From: pitkin at MARYWOOD1.MARYWOOD.EDU (Bryan Pitkin) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:13:41 E Subject: OFF: New Motorhead Message-ID: In response to the line up on "Operation R&R" it was His leige: Lemmy the Lurch Wizzo Wurzel "the Bastard" and Philthy Animal Taylor I caught the tour in 91 in Philly openers were Metal Church (moderatly enjoyable), Dangerous Toys (boring) Motorhead (absolutely amazing) Alice Cooper (as always) and Judas Priest (thier last and final tour before thier demise i think?) "lives of great men all remind us, we must make our lives sublime..." pitkin at ac.marywood.edu From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Thu Oct 3 15:53:31 1996 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:53:31 -0500 Subject: HW: what I finally bought... In-Reply-To: "Andrew A. Apold" "Re: HW: what I finally bought..." (Oct 2, 7:39pm) Message-ID: > >PS "Urban Guerilla" is still the best HW song I've heard -so what will I > >have to buy next? DS > > 'Chronicle of the Black Sword' & 'Live Chronicles' have plenty, since > there's the Moorcock bridge (and 'Black Blade' would fit right in), as well I would have to agree here, except in the other order. I would recommend _Live Chronicles_ as an excellent example of a rockin', kick-ass sort of album. It is, of course, even better than _Space Ritual_ (in spite of what some lesser-informed members of this list might think :-). _CotBS_ is the studio album that preceded the _LC_ album, but I don't think it has the same urgent feeling. While I think _CotBS_ is great, Hawkwind is at their best live in this period. Frank ObCD: A Saucerful of Pink - A Tribute to Pink Floyd ObTrack: Nik Turner - Careful with that Axe, Eugene -- ============================================================================== Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 Q: Were you aquainted with the deceased? A: Yes, sir. Q: Before or after he died? -- Disorder in the Court: a Collection of 'Transquips' by Richard Lederer From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Thu Oct 3 17:59:02 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 21:59:02 UT Subject: HW: what I finally bought... Message-ID: >It's rated based on customer feedback through their Web site. You >know Andy Gilham wore out a couple of mouse buttons on *that* >project: "1, 1, 1, you're gonna be a 1, damn you!!!" ;-) Not me mate! It's always *your* fault, anyway :) Probably comes of trying to input "10" in a one-digit field, or something... Still, it shouldn't be a "1", 'cause it's not as bad as Live bloody Chronicles, anyway! :) - Andy ObCD: Moby - _Animal Rights_ From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Thu Oct 3 18:27:52 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 22:27:52 UT Subject: OFF: Motorhead on HBB Message-ID: Good interview just now - when asked about subject matter on _Overnight Sensation_, the partially shaven Lemmy said, "War, death, cynicism and sex - the whole spectrum from A to B, really..." He's still got sidies down to his lobes, btw, but that's about it on the facial hair department! Scary! - Andy From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Thu Oct 3 22:41:29 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 22:41:29 -0400 Subject: OFF: Motorhead on HBB Message-ID: In a message dated 96-10-03 18:33:55 EDT, you write: >He's still got sidies down to his lobes, btw, but that's about it on the >facial hair department! Scary! > > A friend spotted Lemmy in NYC a couple weeks back.. Tan, new teeth, shaven. Bad Spots intact. regards, Bill Stewart From flossbac at WCIC.ORG Fri Oct 4 00:01:47 1996 From: flossbac at WCIC.ORG (John Majka) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:01:47 -0500 Subject: Want to trade bootleg tapes? Message-ID: Hello Boc-L: Does anyone want to trade bootleg tapes? I have about 300 tapes by various bands such as Hawkwind, Dinosaur Jr., Can, Sonic Youth, Cocteau Twins, Rush, Tangerine Dream, etc. I would be interested in trading for all kinds of stuff, although I'd like to stay away from most classic rock. I would be particularly interested in getting tapes of Pale Saints, Thin White Rope, Stereolab, Guided By Voices, Lush and others. If interested, mail me a message. Your list gets mine. John Majka flossbac at wcic.org From mjf at GRAHAM.COM Fri Oct 4 03:36:51 1996 From: mjf at GRAHAM.COM (Mike Fuller) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:36:51 -0700 Subject: HW: what I finally bought... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >>>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 1996 21:59:02 UT, Andrew Gilham >>>>> said: >> It's rated based on customer feedback through their Web site. You >> know Andy Gilham wore out a couple of mouse buttons on *that* >> project: "1, 1, 1, you're gonna be a 1, damn you!!!" ;-) Andy> Not me mate! It's always *your* fault, anyway :) Probably comes Andy> of trying to input "10" in a one-digit field, or something... Andy> Still, it shouldn't be a "1", 'cause it's not as bad as Live Andy> bloody Chronicles, anyway! :) Hey Steve! You'd better get busy, 'cause I've been entering 2's for Imaginos all day. ;-) -- Mike From mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK Fri Oct 4 10:49:55 1996 From: mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK (Mike Parkington) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 10:49:55 +-100 Subject: OFF: Country Music Message-ID: ---------- From: Buddy Kadri[SMTP:alk at tadpole.co.uk] Sent: Friday, October 04, 1996 10:40 To: mdp at tadpole.co.uk Subject: Country Music I appologise If y'all have received this before, but for those who haven't, here it is: For all you country music buffs ... The Best of the Worst Country-Western Song Titles (These are *real*) Compiled By: Bill Atchley (atchley at coltrane.gnets.ncsu.edu Do You Love As Good As You Look Get Your Biscuits In The Oven And Your Buns In The Bed Get Your Tongue Outta My Mouth 'Cause I'm Kissing You Goodbye Guess My Eyes Were Bigger Than My Heart Her Body Couldn't Keep You Off My Mind Her Cheatin' Heart Made A Drunken Fool Out Of Me Her Teeth Was Stained, But Her Heart Was Pure Here's A Quarter, Call Someone Who Cares How Can A Whiskey That's 6 Years Old Whup A Man That's 33? How Can I Miss You If You Won't Go Away? How Can You Believe Me When I Say I Love You When You Know I've Been A Liar All My Life? I Can't Get Over You, So Why Don't You Get Under Me? I Changed Her Oil, She Changed My Life I Don't Know What Came Over Me (When I Came All Over You) I Don't Know Whether To Come Home Or Go Crazy I Don't Know Whether To Kill Myself Or Go Bowling I Don't Want Your Body If Your Heart's Not In It I Fell In A Pile Of You And Got Love All Over Me I Got In At 2 With A 10 And Woke Up At 10 With A 2 I Hate Every Bone In Your Body Except Mine I Just Bought A Car From The Guy That Stole My Girl, But The Car Don't Run So I Figure We Got An Even Deal I Keep Forgettin' I Forgot About You I Knew I'd Hit Rock Bottom When I Woke Up On Top Of Yew I Liked You Better Before I Knew You So Well I May Be Used (But Baby I Ain't Used Up) I Meant Every Word That He Said I Still Miss You, Baby, But My Aim's Gettin' Better I Wanna Whip Your Cow I Wish I Were In Dixie Tonight, But She's Out Of Town I Would Have Wrote You A Letter, But I Couldn't Spell Yuck! I Wouldn't Take Her To A Dawg Fight, Cause I'm Afraid She'd Win I Wouldn't Take You To A Dog Fight Even If I Thought You Could Win I'd Rather Have A Bottle In Front Of Me Than A Frontal Lobotomy I'll Get Over You As Soon As You Get Out From Under Him I'll Marry You Tomorrow But Let's Honeymoon Tonite I'm Gettin' Gray From Being Blue I'm Gonna Hire A Wino To Decorate Our Home I'm Havin' Daydreams About Night Things In The Middle Of The Afternoon I'm Just A Bug On The Windshield Of Life I'm Not Married But The Wife Is I'm So Miserable Without You, It's Like Having You Here I'm The Only Hell Mama Ever Raised I've Been Flushed From The Bathroom Of Your Heart I've Got Four On The Floor And A Fifth Under The Seat I've Got Red Eyes From Your White Lies And I'm Blue All The Time I've Got Tears In My Ears From Lying On My Back In My Bed While I Cry Over You I've Got The Hungries For Your Love And I'm Waiting In Your Welfare Line If Drinkin' Don't Kill Me, Her Memory Will If Fingerprints Showed Up On Skin, Wonder Whose I'd Find On You If I Can't Be Number One In Your Life, Then Number Two On You If I Had Shot You When I Wanted To, I'd Be Out By Now If I Said You Had A Beautiful Body, Would You Hold It Against Me? If It's Got To Be Later, How 'Bout Later Tonight? If Love Were Oil, I'd Be A Quart Low If My Nose Were Full of Nickels, I'd Blow It All On You If She Puts Lipstick On My Dipstick,I'll Fall In Love If The Jukebox Took Teardrops I'd Cry All Night Long If The Phone Don't Ring, Baby, You'll Know It's Me If Whiskey Were A Woman I'd Be Married For Sure If You Can't Feel It (It Ain't There) If You Don't Leave Me Alone, I'll Go And Find Someone Else Who Will If You Leave Me, Can I Come Too? It Ain't Love But It Ain't Bad It Don't Feel Like Sinnin' To Me It Takes Me All Night Long To Do What I Used To Do All Night Long Learning To Live Again Without You Is Killing Me Mama Get The Hammer (There's A Fly On Papa's Head) May The Bird Of Paradise Fly Up Your Nose My Every Day Silver Is Plastic My John Deere Was Breaking Your Field, While Your Dear John Was Breaking My Heart My Wife Ran Off With My Best Friend, And I Sure Do Miss Him Oh, I've Got Hair Oil On My Ears And My Glasses Are Slipping Down, But Baby I Can See Through You Oh, Lord! It's Hard To Be Humble When You're Perfect In Every Way Out Of My Head And Back In My Bed Pardon Me, I've Got Someone To Kill Please Bypass This Heart She Feels Like A New Man Tonight She Got The Gold Mine And I Got The Shaft She Got The Ring And I Got The Finger She Made Toothpicks Out Of The Timber Of My Heart She's Got Freckles On Her, But She's Pretty She's Out Doing What I'm Here Doing Without. Swing Wide Your Gate Of Love Tennis Must Be Your Racket 'Cause Love Means Nothin' To You Thank God And Greyhound She's Gone The Last Word In Lonesome Is "me" There Ain't No Waste In My Baby's Love Canal They May Put Me In Prison, But They Can't Stop My Face From Breakin' Out Touch Me With More Than Your Hands Velcro Arms, Teflon Heart What Made Milwaukee Famous (Has Made a Loser Out of Me) When We Get Back To the Farm (That's When We Really Go To Town) When You Leave Walk Out Backwards, So I'll Think You're Walking In Who You Gonna Believe, Me Or Your Lying Eyes? You Can't Deal Me All The Aces And Expect Me Not To Play You Can't Have Your Kate And Edith Too You Done Tore Out My Heart And Stomped That Sucker Flat You Hurt The Love Right Out Of Me You Were Only A Splinter As I Slid Down The Bannister Of Life You're A Cross I Can't Bear You're Ruining My Bad Reputation You're The Reason Our Kids Are So Ugly From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Oct 3 06:32:55 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:32:55 +0100 Subject: OFF: Porcupine Tree In-Reply-To: <01BBB096.EBF4E9E0@dynamic-5.async.pyramid.com> Message-ID: In message <01BBB096.EBF4E9E0 at dynamic-5.async.pyramid.com>, "Craig A. Shipley" writes >As much as I would like to discuss PT (and Ship Of Fools, Ozrics, etc.), >I think that this discussion is more appropriate over on the "irock" list. >Dissenting / agreeing opinions welcomed. I agree. I *do* like PT but I'm here for the Hawks. I vote PT stays OFF: I've got other things to do and I spend too much time here as it is. Any increase in traffic that isn't HW/BOC/BRAIN/NIK would make this list less _essential_ in my morning routine. I like it the way it is. -- Jon Browne From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Fri Oct 4 06:20:23 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 10:20:23 UT Subject: OFF: Country Music Message-ID: You know, I have great sympathy for country music fans, because they get the piss taken even more than heavy metal fans (if that's possible). It's just another bit of mindless stereotyping, imo. - Andy ObCD: Johnny Cash - _American Recordings_ From D.K.Hardman at CITY.AC.UK Fri Oct 4 06:33:39 1996 From: D.K.Hardman at CITY.AC.UK (Hardman DK) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 11:33:39 +0100 Subject: OFF: Country Music In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > You know, I have great sympathy for country music fans, because they get the > piss taken even more than heavy metal fans (if that's possible). It's just > another bit of mindless stereotyping, imo. > > - Andy Errrmm, don't you think there is rather a lot of truth in some of the stereotypes? We all laughed at Spinal Tap didn't we, cos it was so true? When I look at the records I bought in my youth, I realise that *I* was living the heavy metal stereotype. Anyway, I thought the country music thing was hilarious! Dave ****************************************************************************** Dave Hardman Department of Psychology Word of the day: City University Northampton Square "Inverinate" (verb) - London EC1V 0HB To spot that both people in a heated argument are Phone: +44 0171 4778000 x4540 talking complete rubbish Fax: +44 0171 4778581 (from "The Deeper Meaning of Liff" by Douglas Adams and John Lloyd) ***************************************************************************** From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Fri Oct 4 10:09:00 1996 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 15:09:00 +0100 Subject: OFF: Country Music In-Reply-To: Mike Parkington's mail of Fri, 4 Oct 96 10:49 +0000 Message-ID: Some of these are deliberately humurous. E.g. > Get Your Biscuits In The Oven And Your Buns In The Bed by Kinky Friedman and the Texas Jewboys. Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. From Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM Fri Oct 4 11:41:23 1996 From: Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 10:41:23 -0500 Subject: HW US TOUR 97 Message-ID: Hi all, I have recently been in touch with DS about the claims that someone has written/phoned the band trying to set up some US gigs but have had no reply. The band and DS have not been contacted by anyone other than Jim Lasco, who set up the best US date Hawkwind did in years on the last tour. We would like to point out that the only real way to get in contact with DS reliably if anyone has a real contact for possible US dates is to go through this address. Anything else is hearsay. Yours, Star Rats From skarsol at EROLS.COM Fri Oct 4 11:03:52 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 15:03:52 +0000 Subject: HW US TOUR 97 Message-ID: Hawkwind wrote: > > Hi all, > I have recently been in touch with DS about the claims that someone > has written/phoned the band trying to set up some US gigs but have had no > reply. The band and DS have not been contacted by anyone other than Jim > Lasco, who set up the best US date Hawkwind did in years on the last tour. I AM AWARE OF JIM AND CO.S' EFFORTS.I >DID< WRITE THE BAND WITH OFFERS. THEY >DID NOT< REPLY. I >DID< WRITE >>YOU<< WITH OFFERS. >>YOU<< DID NOT REPLY. DOUG SMITH'S OFFICE >WAS< CALLED MORE THAN ONCE IN THE PAST WEEK,AND APPARENTLY THE OFFICE BIMBO DOESNT FORWARD HIS MESSAGES. > We would like to point out that the only real way to get in contact with DS > reliably if anyone has a real contact for possible US dates is to go through > this address. Anything else is hearsay. THIS MAY BE TRUE,BECAUSE DOUG DOESNT SEEM TO GET HIS MESSAGES. DALE,YOU ARE, HOWEVER,NOT THE ONLY CONNECTION ON THE PLANET.SUCH CLAIMS ARE OBNOXIOUS AND LAUGHABLE. I AM OFFERING GENUINE ASSISTANCE HERE.MY CONTACT HAS BEEN WAITING FOR A RESPONSE. IF THE HELP IS NOT DESIRED THE MANAGEMENT CAN LET ME KNOW,AND I WILL STOP MY EFFORTS. AND ANYONE WHO CLAIMS MY WORD IS HEARSAY, PISS OFF. YOURS AS WELL,HOWEVER ANNOYED, RJ > Yours, > Star Rats From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Oct 3 04:35:17 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:35:17 +0100 Subject: HW: what I finally bought... In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961002214243.008e2378@mailbox.mc.hik.se> Message-ID: In message <1.5.4.32.19961002214243.008e2378 at mailbox.mc.hik.se>, Daniel Wikdahl writes > >PS "Urban Guerilla" is still the best HW song I've heard -so what will I >have to buy next? DS > Space Ritual Alive, I trust we'd agree on that, everyone? -- Jon Browne From delacour at UNM.EDU Fri Oct 4 18:09:15 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:09:15 -0600 Subject: Want to trade bootleg tapes? In-Reply-To: <199610040401.XAA14983@wcic.org> Message-ID: On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, John Majka wrote: > Hello Boc-L: > > Does anyone want to trade bootleg tapes? I have about 300 tapes by various > bands such as Hawkwind, Dinosaur Jr., Can, Sonic Youth, Cocteau Twins, Rush, > Tangerine Dream, etc. > I would be interested in trading for all kinds of stuff, although I'd like > to stay away from most classic rock. I would be particularly interested in > getting tapes of Pale Saints, Thin White Rope, Stereolab, Guided By Voices, > Lush and others. If interested, mail me a message. Your list gets mine. > > John Majka > flossbac at wcic.org > YEAH; Just don't trade with Ted O. Jackson!!! Now going on 4 months and STILL waiting.... Manuel Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM Fri Oct 4 19:17:58 1996 From: Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:17:58 -0500 Subject: HW US TOUR 97 Message-ID: >THIS MAY BE TRUE,BECAUSE DOUG DOESNT SEEM TO GET HIS MESSAGES. >DALE,YOU ARE, HOWEVER,NOT THE ONLY CONNECTION ON THE PLANET.SUCH CLAIMS ARE OBNOXIOUS >AND LAUGHABLE. >I AM OFFERING GENUINE ASSISTANCE HERE.MY CONTACT HAS BEEN WAITING FOR A RESPONSE. >IF THE HELP IS NOT DESIRED THE MANAGEMENT CAN LET ME KNOW,AND I WILL STOP MY EFFORTS. >AND ANYONE WHO CLAIMS MY WORD IS HEARSAY, PISS OFF. >>>Listen here, I am just relaying the message from DS's office! If he tells me he hasn't been contacted, who am I to dispute that since he would know better than I. There is no 'office bimbo' and I'm sure that if the intention to set up HW gigs in the US was put forward clearly, it would not be ignored since this is what they have been looking to do for ages. This is the problem of going through two or more people, no-one really knows what's been said, who's been phoned, what messages were left and what follow up action was needed. I was also asked to relay that if anyone wants to get a message to DS from this list or via the web, and be sure that he gets it, the best way is to go through this address - and that's all that was meant!!!!. I speak to Doug very often and call him if anything of importance comes through. I've also had tons of offers of help and can't get back to everyone. Although there have been lots of messages stating good intentions, there has been no DEFINITE plans sent through to me or the band. By DEFINITE offers, we mean plans that detail the venue, promotion, accomodation, travel arrangements and contract details. These plans don't have to be finalized, but a serious attempt to set up ANY gig would all have these things listed. Anyone that has requested the sort of info needed to set up these gigs have been sent it, but no-one has followed up. We have had a few contacts that also haven't been forgotten and will be contacted when it actually looks as though the band will be coming over to the US. It's no good calling everyone up if the band can't actually go for some other reason. So, if you have a contact that is ready to go, send through a contact name/phone/fax number and it WILL be passed on to DS immediatly!! Star Rats From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Oct 3 06:35:41 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:35:41 +0100 Subject: HW: what I finally bought... In-Reply-To: <3.0b11.32.19961003090451.00679e20@mail.castrop-rauxel.netsurf.de> Message-ID: In message <3.0b11.32.19961003090451.00679e20 at mail.castrop- rauxel.netsurf.de>, Bernhard Pospiech writes >>How to do to enjoy this one too? >>Play it backwards and smoke some pot maybe? > >Are you really sure it was LEVITATION you were listening to ???? > >It is IMHO one of HAWKWINDS best records. > >Just put your headphone on, start LEVITATION again, lean back and relax..... > > >Bernhard The key-word here is "Headphones". It does say so on the album! -- Jon Browne From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Sat Oct 5 08:47:24 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 23:47:24 +1100 Subject: HW US TOUR 97 Message-ID: > We would like to point out that the only real way to get in contact with DS > reliably if anyone has a real contact for possible US dates is to go through > this address. Anything else is hearsay. C'mon .... we ALL know that the best way to hear from Doug is to create artwork for a mythologically lost Hawkwind LP and put it on a web page ;^) Sonique -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From skarsol at EROLS.COM Sat Oct 5 07:48:04 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 11:48:04 +0000 Subject: HW US TOUR 97 Message-ID: Hawkwind wrote: > > >THIS MAY BE TRUE,BECAUSE DOUG DOESNT SEEM TO GET HIS MESSAGES. > >DALE,YOU ARE, HOWEVER,NOT THE ONLY CONNECTION ON THE PLANET.SUCH CLAIMS ARE > OBNOXIOUS > >AND LAUGHABLE. > >I AM OFFERING GENUINE ASSISTANCE HERE.MY CONTACT HAS BEEN WAITING FOR A > RESPONSE. > >IF THE HELP IS NOT DESIRED THE MANAGEMENT CAN LET ME KNOW,AND I WILL STOP > MY EFFORTS. > >AND ANYONE WHO CLAIMS MY WORD IS HEARSAY, PISS OFF. > > >>>Listen here, I am just relaying the message from DS's office! If he tells > me he hasn't been contacted, who am I to dispute that since he would know > better than I. There is no 'office bimbo' and I'm sure that if the intention > to set up HW gigs in the US was put forward clearly, it would not be ignored > since this is what they have been looking to do for ages. This is the > problem of going through two or more people, no-one really knows what's been > said, who's been phoned, what messages were left and what follow up action > was needed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ron's definition of office bimbo:any person who answers the phone when you call an office,and is unable to provide any assistance whatsoever,and when you call back you get the telephone equivalent of a dumblook and shrug.the woman who answered the phone-i dont know who she is... gave no answer of any use to my friend who called >at my request< (he has doug's numbers,and i didnt feel right to ask him for them,and he is probably reading this now..) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > I was also asked to relay that if anyone wants to get a message to DS from > this list or via the web, and be sure that he gets it, the best way is to > go through this address - and that's all that was meant!!!!. I speak to > Doug very often and call him if anything of importance comes through. uh,so i've heard. > I've also had tons of offers of help and can't get back to everyone. > Although there have been lots of messages stating good intentions, there has > been no DEFINITE plans sent through to me or the band. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- like i stated before,i have a friend with his own record store and label,who is definitely interested in setting up the philly area.he can set up a gig any size from a back yard to an auditorium,and wants to know what the band wants for playing, what kind of audience they are looking for,possible time-frame,and how they want to be promoted. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > By DEFINITE offers, we mean plans that detail the venue, promotion, > accomodation, travel arrangements and contract details. These plans don't > have to be finalized, but a serious attempt to set up ANY gig would all have > these things listed. Anyone that has requested the sort of info needed to > set up these gigs have been sent it, but no-one has followed up. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------this information was requested from you,by me,at the time the discussion first began some months ago.i'm waiting..... when i get this information,then things might happen.BTW-i may be dirt-poor, but have offered to donate cash,and or service to the band in any capacity. i dont know doug smith from adam,but am well aquainted with the members of the band,and perhaps owe them a few favors. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> We have had a few contacts that also haven't been forgotten and will be > contacted when it actually looks as though the band will be coming over to > the US. It's no good calling everyone up if the band can't actually go for > some other reason. > > So, if you have a contact that is ready to go, send through a contact > name/phone/fax number and it WILL be passed on to DS immediatly!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------as far as my reaction to yer first post goes,re-read it yerself and think about how it sounded.i know i am not alone in the way i percieved it,as i have been contacted privately by some fellow listmembers who felt the same way. so now that i have contacted you,im sure all of this will find its way to doug's desk,neh? rj CAPTURED ROTATION: F---ING INCREDIBLE! From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Sat Oct 5 13:58:53 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 13:58:53 -0400 Subject: OFF: Country Music Message-ID: I printed this out and took it to my local North Carolina bar where it went down a treat. Thanks for posting Martyn From pookadad at DELTANET.COM Sat Oct 5 15:39:58 1996 From: pookadad at DELTANET.COM (Michael G Karschner) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:39:58 -0700 Subject: BOC: astronomy Message-ID: My vote is for the reworked Astronomy from Imaginos. I didn't think I'd like it after hearing a RealAudio snip from some web-music-ordering service, but since I've gotten the CD, I can't stop the rhythm-guitar line from running through my head! From swann at MINDVOX.COM Sat Oct 5 16:13:19 1996 From: swann at MINDVOX.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 16:13:19 -0400 Subject: HW: what I finally bought... In-Reply-To: <199610040736.AAA10298@yoyodyne.graham.com> from "Mike Fuller" at Oct 4, 96 00:36:51 am Message-ID: Mike Fuller writes: > > >>>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 1996 21:59:02 UT, Andrew Gilham > >>>>> said: > > >> It's rated based on customer feedback through their Web site. You > >> know Andy Gilham wore out a couple of mouse buttons on *that* > >> project: "1, 1, 1, you're gonna be a 1, damn you!!!" ;-) > > Andy> Not me mate! It's always *your* fault, anyway :) Probably comes > Andy> of trying to input "10" in a one-digit field, or something... > Andy> Still, it shouldn't be a "1", 'cause it's not as bad as Live > Andy> bloody Chronicles, anyway! :) > > Hey Steve! You'd better get busy, 'cause I've been entering 2's for > Imaginos all day. ;-) Hmmph! The barbarians are now *through* the gates, and comfortably seated at Rome's public access internet terminals. Steve swann at panix.com From videofest at MEDIOPOLIS.DE Sat Oct 5 18:43:59 1996 From: videofest at MEDIOPOLIS.DE (VideoFest Berlin) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 23:43:59 +0100 Subject: a new Calvert page Message-ID: hello all, and another new page has just beed annexed to the Calvert site http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/ an illustrated version of the Calvert poem: "Buster Keaton and the Virgin Sperm Dancer" featuring various pics of the greatest of all stonefaces...- go there via the NEWS page or WORDS also added the lyrics for the Calvert song "Soweto" - to be found on part II of the Lyrics pages. ciao, Knut knut gerwers email: videofest at mediopolis.de the Robert Calvert site: http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/ VideoFest Mediopolis Berlin e.V. Potsdamer Str. 96 D - 10785 Berlin Germany tel: *30 - 262 8714 fax: *30 - 262 8713 email: videofest at mediopolis.de http://www.mediopolis.de/videofest/ From jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK Sat Oct 5 21:02:07 1996 From: jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 02:02:07 +0100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Message-ID: Dear All, I got this on a very old tape copy over the summer and the more I listen to it the more I come to the conclusion that it's worryingly like `Ummagumma', particularly in the drum work. The beginnings of `Set the controls' and `The Reason is?' are the real examples, but you could say the same for the sort of cymbal punctuation in `Saucerful of Secrets' and bits of `Paranoia'. Does anyone know if Dave or people ever saw the Floyd in that period? With the timing it's not impossible as far as I can see. Also, how do people rate this as an album? Interested to hear some views, Jazza /_______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 327450) jaj20 at hermes.cam.ac.uk | | ======================================================================| | "`It's a Venusian space bassist,' said Turner the bird being." | | (Hawkwind, sleeve notes to 'Doremi Fasol Latido') | \_______________________________________________________________________/ From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Sat Oct 5 14:49:35 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 05:49:35 +1100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Message-ID: Jon Jarrett wrote: > > Dear All, > I got this on a very old tape copy over the summer and > the more I listen to it the more I come to the conclusion that it's > worryingly like `Ummagumma', particularly in the drum work. The beginnings > of `Set the controls' and `The Reason is?' are the real examples, but you > could say the same for the sort of cymbal punctuation in `Saucerful of > Secrets' and bits of `Paranoia'. Does anyone know if Dave or people ever > saw the Floyd in that period? With the timing it's not impossible as far > as I can see. Also, how do people rate this as an album? Interested to > hear some views, > Jazza I'd agree that there certainly are some sililarities between Floyd and HW. Probably my two favorite bands of all time. If you have the new release of "Hawkwind", with the extra tracks, you'd have "Cymbaline", which is from "More", quite a nice Floyd album in my mind. I think the diference between Floyd and HW, at least in the begining, is the themes that they dael with. I always take Floyd as being a more serious experimental kind of thing, wheras HW are more for the drug-crazed person that pops up in me every now and then. Floyd aren't space rock, even though people may say that Syd Barrett invented it (well, he wrote one song about space, and another that had space in the title, and that's it). I think that upon examination of both bands' debut albums, you can see that their influences are perhaps what separates them. "Hawkwind" has a very country/blusey feel to it, not to mention a dash of psychadelia, whereas Floyd had Syd's inspired creation, who knows where he got it from. Floyd, before Piper, were doing Buddy Holly numbers and just general R&B sort of stuff. Anyway, I'd be quite interested in other people's opinions, too. -Max Wilcox From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Sun Oct 6 06:31:30 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 11:31:30 +0100 Subject: Reading 1986 programme Message-ID: Hi folks I am STILL looking for the READING FESTIVAL 1986 programme!! If there is someone who wants to swap it or maybe sell, get in contact please cheers Bernhard From skarsol at EROLS.COM Sun Oct 6 08:43:09 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 12:43:09 +0000 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Message-ID: Max Wilcox wrote: > I'd agree that there certainly are some sililarities between Floyd and > HW. Probably my two favorite bands of all time. If you have the new > release of "Hawkwind", with the extra tracks, you'd have "Cymbaline", > which is from "More", quite a nice Floyd album in my mind. > I think the diference between Floyd and HW, at least in the begining, > is the themes that they dael with. I always take Floyd as being a more > serious experimental kind of thing, wheras HW are more for the > drug-crazed person that pops up in me every now and then. Floyd aren't > space rock, even though people may say that Syd Barrett invented it > (well, he wrote one song about space, and another that had space in the > title, and that's it). > I think that upon examination of both bands' debut albums, you can see > that their influences are perhaps what separates them. "Hawkwind" has a > very country/blusey feel to it, not to mention a dash of psychadelia, > whereas Floyd had Syd's inspired creation, who knows where he got it > from. Floyd, before Piper, were doing Buddy Holly numbers and just > general R&B sort of stuff. > Anyway, I'd be quite interested in other people's opinions, too. i think one of the major differences tween early hw and floyd was the fact that pinkfloyd had top o the line equiptment,and backing, while hw was playing on whatever they could get their hands on, so hw never had the polish of floyd. i think with better equipt at their disposal,hw would have had a different sound,and so would have evolved into something else. i dont know if this were better or not,but i have seen in a few assorted interviews how hw sort of kept an eye on what floyd was doing. there were a lot of comparisons between the two bands in those days. i think that floyd carefully orchestrated their sound and schtick, so as to have that mass appeal,and still be on the edge. hw on the other hand did whatever came naturally,and i think they might even have enjoyed the abuse heaped on them by the media... rj From skarsol at EROLS.COM Sun Oct 6 08:46:24 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 12:46:24 +0000 Subject: Reading 1986 programme Message-ID: Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > > Hi folks > > I am STILL looking for the READING FESTIVAL 1986 programme!! > > If there is someone who wants to swap it or maybe sell, get in contact please > > cheers > Bernhard i no longer remember the number or address,but there is a shop in england somewhere called rock of ages,who specialize in this sort of thing. i bought several old programmes from them.they are a little expensive, but the stock was in really good shape,and the response time was more than satisfactory. any uk'ers know where this shop is located? rj From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Sun Oct 6 14:12:59 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 14:12:59 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Message-ID: Pink Floyd -- upper middle class Hawkwind -- working class $0.02 Martyn From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Sun Oct 6 01:28:03 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:28:03 +1100 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Message-ID: > > i think one of the major differences tween early hw and floyd was > the fact that pinkfloyd had top o the line equiptment,and backing, > while hw was playing on whatever they could get their hands on, > so hw never had the polish of floyd. Actually, pre-70s, Floyd had shitty equipment, too. In fact, some of the Boots I've got of them in those days are quite shocking. I think they made up for it for being the "loudest band in London", as they where known as at the time. > i think with better equipt at their disposal,hw would have had a > different sound,and so would have evolved into something else. > i dont know if this were better or not,but i have seen in a few assorted > interviews how hw sort of kept an eye on what floyd was doing. > there were a lot of comparisons between the two bands in those days. > > i think that floyd carefully orchestrated their sound and schtick, > so as to have that mass appeal,and still be on the edge. > > hw on the other hand did whatever came naturally,and i think they > might even have enjoyed the abuse heaped on them by the media... > rj How did the media treat them in those days? I don't realy know much about their reception by the public and the media, other than a from a few years back. -Max Wilcox From stayer at PI.NET Sun Oct 6 15:59:17 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 12:59:17 PDT Subject: Hofstra University Message-ID: I got a Nektar (another one of my favourites) live tape from the USA, and it only said "1977, Hofstra Unviersity". I am used to incomplete dates for tapes, so I can't be bothered by the date. What I don't like, is that people forget to state the city and state of recordings. Does anyone know where Hofstra University is supposed to be? Thanks, Jerry From ir004728 at INTERRAMP.COM Sun Oct 6 15:06:01 1996 From: ir004728 at INTERRAMP.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:06:01 -0400 Subject: Change of Address Message-ID: >Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:01:34 -0400 >To:BOC-L-Request at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU >From:ir004728 at interramp.com (Albert T Bouchard) >Subject:Change of Address > >Hi: > My server has been bought out by mindspring so my address is about >to change. Please note that my new address is: >ir004728 at mindspring.com >Thanks >Al > From halligbt at BIGVAX.ALFRED.EDU Sun Oct 6 15:18:20 1996 From: halligbt at BIGVAX.ALFRED.EDU (BRIAN HALLIGAN) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:18:20 EDT Subject: Hofstra University Message-ID: Jerry said... >I got a Nektar (another one of my favourites) live tape from the USA, and it >only said "1977, Hofstra Unviersity". I am used to incomplete dates for >tapes, so I can't be bothered by the date. > >What I don't like, is that people forget to state the city and state of >recordings. Does anyone know where Hofstra University is supposed to be? Hofstra is in upstate New York somewhere. Possibly in the Finger Lakes region- I'm not sure. Definately New York State though. If it's in the Finger Lakes than the closest major cities would be Syracuse and Rochester. Brian From skarsol at EROLS.COM Sun Oct 6 12:17:45 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:17:45 +0000 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Message-ID: Max Wilcox wrote: > Actually, pre-70s, Floyd had shitty equipment, too. In fact, some of > the Boots I've got of them in those days are quite shocking. I think > they made up for it for being the "loudest band in London", as they > where known as at the time. pre seventies doesnt really apply i think,it was in the seventies when hw started watching.and also when the world started watching.i mean,ask any member of the band if they had the sound they wanted in those days and they would say something like- 'well we did the best we could with what we had.' i can remember one interview with either del or dikmik where he said that floyd had this huge moog or somesuch,and fretted that they were gonna get left behind.. > > How did the media treat them in those days? I don't realy know much > about their reception by the public and the media, other than a from a > few years back. one statement i saw,i believe it was on the back of one of the samurai releases, called them 'the band you love to hate'.i think they were viewed as 'stinking hippies' and probable subversives. i wasnt conscious of them then,all of my info is retro,so i dont really know,just have impressions.i do know that they were investigated for possible terrorist activities,but of course they were clean. i think the space ritual material nicely fits into the same catagory as the music from meddle,and relics.i may be wrong,butif someone asked me what early hw sounded like, i would ask-'do you like early floyd? rj > -Max Wilcox From Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM Sun Oct 6 16:15:12 1996 From: Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:15:12 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawkwind Message-ID: > How did the media treat them in those days? I don't realy know much >about their reception by the public and the media, other than a from a >few years back. > >-Max Wilcox In the new year, I will be featuring reproductions of newspaper cuttings of Hawkwind from various newspapers and music press from 1967 onwards. You will then be able to see how the press covered Hawkwind through the years. Star Rats From skarsol at EROLS.COM Sun Oct 6 12:19:34 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:19:34 +0000 Subject: Hofstra University Message-ID: BRIAN HALLIGAN wrote: > Hofstra is in upstate New York somewhere. Possibly in the Finger Lakes > region- I'm not sure. Definately New York State though. If it's in the Finger > Lakes than the closest major cities would be Syracuse and Rochester. there is a big university in Ithica NY-fingerlakes region.this might be it? rj From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Sun Oct 6 16:37:38 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Le Monsieur) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:37:38 -0500 Subject: Hofstra University In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Jerry wrote: > I got a Nektar (another one of my favourites) live tape from the USA, and it > only said "1977, Hofstra Unviersity". I don't know for sure, but Bill Cosby had a routine about when his team (Temple Univ.) played Hofstra. It's quite funny, though probably not helpful to your query. :) Damon Capehart | "As their numbers dwindled from 70 to 8, the aka Le Monsieur | dwarves began to suspect Hungry..." dcapehar at utdallas.edu | From JMBpackers at AOL.COM Sun Oct 6 17:30:13 1996 From: JMBpackers at AOL.COM (J M Blahnik) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 17:30:13 -0400 Subject: BOC: astronomy Message-ID: In a message dated 96-10-05 15:37:07 EDT, you write: << My vote is for the reworked Astronomy from Imaginos. I can't stop the rhythm-guitar line from running through my head! >> The redo on Subhuman is great also....love Buck tearin it up at the end, I carry it around inside for days. What's the knock on Lightyears o' Love?? Had it played at my wedding, along with Unknown Tongue_?_ .|. Jimi From halligbt at BIGVAX.ALFRED.EDU Sun Oct 6 19:14:40 1996 From: halligbt at BIGVAX.ALFRED.EDU (BRIAN HALLIGAN) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 18:14:40 EST Subject: Hofstra University Message-ID: >BRIAN HALLIGAN wrote: > >> Hofstra is in upstate New York somewhere. Possibly in the Finger Lakes >> region- I'm not sure. Definately New York State though. If it's in the Finger >> Lakes than the closest major cities would be Syracuse and Rochester. > >there is a big university in Ithica NY-fingerlakes region.this might be it? >rj Ithaca College and Cornell University are in Ithaca. To bring this a little more on topic, the Brain Surgeons played in Trumansburg, which is near Ithaca, back in '94. Killer show! 1st time Hansel & Gretel was played and the 2nd time for I Play the Drums. Brian From fsrbw1 at AURORA.ALASKA.EDU Sun Oct 6 19:15:10 1996 From: fsrbw1 at AURORA.ALASKA.EDU (A.K. Wadleigh) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:15:10 -0800 Subject: Hofstra University In-Reply-To: Message-ID: About Hofstra University Hofstra University is located in Hempstead, NY. The following is the mailing address of the Admissions Office of Hofstra University, please send all requests for applications here: Hofstra University Admissions Office 1000 Fulton Avenue Hempstead, NY 11550 Or you can call Hofstra at 1-800-HOFSTRA, that is 1-800-463-7872. This off the net -- as I thought in New York state..... Can't imagine Hawkwind there. AK On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Jerry wrote: > I got a Nektar (another one of my favourites) live tape from the USA, and it > only said "1977, Hofstra Unviersity". I am used to incomplete dates for > tapes, so I can't be bothered by the date. > > What I don't like, is that people forget to state the city and state of > recordings. Does anyone know where Hofstra University is supposed to be? > > Thanks, > Jerry > From imaginos at NETIME.COM Sun Oct 6 21:12:26 1996 From: imaginos at NETIME.COM (Grant Porter) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 21:12:26 -0400 Subject: BOC: Stone Mountain Setlist Message-ID: Here's the setlist as compliled by my buddy Mike (mstanton at netdepot.com) while we were at the show. I "think" they wanted to play alittle longer as Eric first announce they were going to play three new songs. Once they got to "Don't Fear Godzilla Burnin' the Reaper for You" I knew it was coming to a close. All in all... they ROCK. I was quite satisfied. Godzilla on the other hard was a little more upset than usual. We think he must have got into the chili. (BTW: I got to hear about 30 minutes of the "Randy Bachman Band" and I think Randy's Turnover was Underdone... but I never got into BTO... so it might just be me. The crowd seemed to enjoy helping him take care of business.) BOC SetList for Oct. 5th 1996 Stone Mt. Chili Cookoff Starway to the Stars Before The Kiss (a redcap) ETI Harvest Moon (new song) Buck's Boogie Live for Me (new song) Cities on Flame Last Days of May Burning for You Godzilla (Don't Fear) The Reaper Encore The Red and The Black or "I'm on The Lamb but I Ain't No Sheep" -Grant imaginos at netime.com From irby at CRUX.ASTR.UA.EDU Sun Oct 6 23:11:32 1996 From: irby at CRUX.ASTR.UA.EDU (Bryan Irby) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 22:11:32 -0500 Subject: BOC: 10/5 Stone Mtn. Setlist Message-ID: For anyone who's interested: BOC: ------------------------------------------------------- 10/5/96: Miller Lite Chili Cook-Off, Stone Mountain, GA ------------------------------------------------------- Stairway to the Stars Before the Kiss ETI Harvest Moon Buck's Boogie Incoming (?) Cities on Flame Last Days of May Burnin' For You Godzilla Buck Solo Jam > The Reaper Encore: The Red & The Black Comments: It was unfortunately a short show (they had to finish before sunset since there were no lights for the stage), but it was certainly well worth the drive. I had hoped to hear more new songs, and Lips in the Hills, but no dice. They only played one song I'd never heard before, the one labeled "Incoming"... I'm not sure if that name is correct (at first I thought it was called "Note From Me", but I think I was able to rule that one out), but it was a fairly fun new Buck song, along the same lines musically and lyrically as some of the Flat Out material. Buck's Boogie was the highlight of the show for me. There was also an interesting addition to The Reaper - as noted above, Buck played a short (~1 min) solo jam before segueing into DFTR. The Chili people seemed to enjoy the show. -Bryan From squinn at DIGITAL.NET Sun Oct 6 23:52:29 1996 From: squinn at DIGITAL.NET (Shawn Quinn) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 23:52:29 -0400 Subject: BOC: Stone Mountain Setlist Message-ID: I was there - and it was AWESOME ! Front row - Great sound. "Live for Me" was incredible. Buck wrote the music (he sings it) and I believe John Shirley (sp ?) wrote the lyrics. With Harvest, Live for Me, and maybe See You in Black, the band may have not one, but three singles from the CD. Shawn From mordru at MAGG.NET Mon Oct 7 01:07:22 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 01:07:22 -0400 Subject: Hofstra University Message-ID: >On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Jerry wrote: >> I got a Nektar (another one of my favourites) live tape from the USA, and it >> only said "1977, Hofstra Unviersity". > >I don't know for sure, but Bill Cosby had a routine about when his team >(Temple Univ.) played Hofstra. It's quite funny, though probably not >helpful to your query. :) It's in Hempstead, NY, which is on Long Island, in Nassau county pretty much within the Greater NYC area. =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Mon Oct 7 03:23:49 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:23:49 UT Subject: BOC: Stone Mountain Setlist Message-ID: >Harvest Moon (new song) Not *that* new... :) >Live for Me (new song) Sure this isn't "Nightmare Epiphany"? (Not that new either, but new to live sets afaik). - Andy From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Mon Oct 7 06:01:44 1996 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (M R Godwin) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:01:44 +0100 Subject: BOC: Stone Mountain Setlist In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, Andrew Gilham wrote: > >Harvest Moon (new song) > > Not *that* new... :) Well, still new in the sense of being unavailable on record - I have only heard the song once. Are they _really_ in the studio recording a new set? Is it actually going to come out next year? - Mike Godwin From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 7 11:39:11 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:39:11 BST Subject: HW: Hawkwind In-Reply-To: Jon Jarrett's message of Sun, 6 Oct 1996 02:02:07 +0100 Message-ID: Jon Jarrett writes: > Dear All, > I got this on a very old tape copy over the summer and > the more I listen to it the more I come to the conclusion that it's > worryingly like `Ummagumma', particularly in the drum work. The beginnings > of `Set the controls' and `The Reason is?' are the real examples, but you > could say the same for the sort of cymbal punctuation in `Saucerful of > Secrets' and bits of `Paranoia'. Does anyone know if Dave or people ever > saw the Floyd in that period? With the timing it's not impossible as far > as I can see. Also, how do people rate this as an album? Interested to > hear some views, I'm sure Dave would have seen the Floyd back then. However, there's one of the "Cosmic Jokers" sessions that Dave has said influenced him strongly (it was the first CD out before "Galactic Supermarket"). On listening to this, its influence on the first album is very clear. FoFP From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 7 11:40:37 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:40:37 BST Subject: Reading 1986 programme In-Reply-To: SKARSOL's message of Sun, 6 Oct 1996 12:46:24 +0000 Message-ID: SKARSOL writes: > Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > > > > Hi folks > > > > I am STILL looking for the READING FESTIVAL 1986 programme!! > > > > If there is someone who wants to swap it or maybe sell, get in contact please > > > > cheers > > Bernhard > > i no longer remember the number or address,but there is a shop in > england somewhere called rock of ages,who specialize in this sort of > thing. > i bought several old programmes from them.they are a little expensive, > but the stock was in really good shape,and the response time was more > than satisfactory. > > any uk'ers know where this shop is located? I dealt with 'em when looking for Hawks singles. I almost certainly have their address and phone number. Odds are that they advertise in Record Collector too. > rj FoFP From imaginos at NETIME.COM Mon Oct 7 07:08:38 1996 From: imaginos at NETIME.COM (Imaginos) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:08:38 -0400 Subject: BOC: Stone Mountain Setlist Message-ID: Andrew Gilham writes: > >>Harvest Moon (new song) > >Not *that* new... :) > >>Live for Me (new song) > >Sure this isn't "Nightmare Epiphany"? (Not that new either, but new to live >sets afaik). > >- Andy Sounds like they said "Live for me".... I just checked AOL and Eric says Live for Me is another Roeser/Shirley song. They supposedly premiered another song called "X-Ray Eyes" but apparently not in Atlanta (Eric said they were going to do three "new" songs.. and only did two). If the sound wasn't as screwed up as it was and they got on stage at 5:00, we probably would of heard it... but instead we got to hear lots of soundchecks while they were rewiring the back of the board (yes, it got that bad). BOC Rocks. -Grant * Grant Porter is: imaginos at netime.com or gporter at furball.slime.org * Ferrets and more seen at: http://furball.slime.org/ * Opinions are: completely derived from listening to rock music. * "Crime don't pay. But a P-Funk card comes in handy" -Bootsy From RHamel4129 at AOL.COM Mon Oct 7 09:05:24 1996 From: RHamel4129 at AOL.COM (Rich Hamel) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 09:05:24 -0400 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 6 Oct 1996 to 7 Oct 1996 Message-ID: In a message dated 96-10-07 05:01:02 EDT, you write: > << My vote is for the reworked Astronomy from Imaginos. > I can't stop the rhythm-guitar > line from running through my head! >> > > The redo on Subhuman is great also....love Buck tearin it up at the end, I > carry it around inside for days. > Jeez, I've been lurkin' for awhile... I think the solo at the end of Blue Oyster Cult is Robbie Krieger rather than Buck. Right? Rich (going back to sleep now) From reyes at ALUX4.MICRO.LUCENT.COM Mon Oct 7 09:22:58 1996 From: reyes at ALUX4.MICRO.LUCENT.COM (Ross Reyes) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 09:22:58 EDT Subject: BOC-L Digest - 6 Oct 1996 to 7 Oct 1996 Message-ID: > Blue Oyster Cult is Robbie Krieger rather than Buck. Right? if it is RK, it's very Dharma-esque. He must have studied some of the LDoM/Astro solos very closely. RR RR From mordru at MAGG.NET Mon Oct 7 09:39:02 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 09:39:02 -0400 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 6 Oct 1996 to 7 Oct 1996 Message-ID: >> Blue Oyster Cult is Robbie Krieger rather than Buck. Right? > >if it is RK, it's very Dharma-esque. He must have studied some >of the LDoM/Astro solos very closely. I keep thinking it was Jack Rigg for some reason. +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Mon Oct 7 10:46:11 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 09:46:11 EST Subject: Hofstra University Message-ID: > I got a Nektar (another one of my favourites) live tape from the USA, and it > only said "1977, Hofstra Unviersity". I am used to incomplete dates for > tapes, so I can't be bothered by the date. > > What I don't like, is that people forget to state the city and state of > recordings. Does anyone know where Hofstra University is supposed to be? > > Thanks, > Jerry Jerry, I think it's somewhere in New Jersey. 'Bout all I can say... theo From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Mon Oct 7 10:51:03 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 09:51:03 EST Subject: Hofstra University Message-ID: > Jerry said... > > >I got a Nektar (another one of my favourites) live tape from the USA, and it > >only said "1977, Hofstra Unviersity". I am used to incomplete dates for > >tapes, so I can't be bothered by the date. > > > >What I don't like, is that people forget to state the city and state of > >recordings. Does anyone know where Hofstra University is supposed to be? > > Hofstra is in upstate New York somewhere. Possibly in the Finger Lakes > region- I'm not sure. Definately New York State though. If it's in the Finger > Lakes than the closest major cities would be Syracuse and Rochester. > > Brian Jerry, Disregard my last post! Hofstra isn't in New Jersey, but it definitely is in the Metro New York area, and is definitely not upstate, and nowhere near Syr. or Rochester. Brian! What've you been smokin'? theo From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Mon Oct 7 10:26:30 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 10:26:30 -0400 Subject: BOC: Stone Mountain Setlist Message-ID: Cool to hear that BOC is working some new material in the set - makes me hope the new album will really come out. And even if not, hey, at least they're playing new tunes. Looking at the setlist, I also noticed that Eric sang only a few songs - I hope he's only "resting" his voice for the new recordings, and that there's no serious problem there. John From scruto19 at POTSDAM.EDU Mon Oct 7 11:31:36 1996 From: scruto19 at POTSDAM.EDU (Jason Scruton) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 15:31:36 -0000 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 6 Oct 1996 to 7 Oct 1996 Message-ID: >>> Blue Oyster Cult is Robbie Krieger rather than Buck. Right? >> >>if it is RK, it's very Dharma-esque. He must have studied some >>of the LDoM/Astro solos very closely. > >I keep thinking it was Jack Rigg for some reason. in an old posting on BOC-L Al wrote that it was in fact Robbie Krieger who did the solo on "BOC" So there ya go Jason From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Mon Oct 7 11:28:31 1996 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 10:28:31 -0500 Subject: Hofstra University In-Reply-To: Jerry "Hofstra University" (Oct 6, 12:59pm) Message-ID: Jerry wrote: > I got a Nektar (another one of my favourites) live tape from the USA, and it > only said "1977, Hofstra Unviersity". I am used to incomplete dates for > tapes, so I can't be bothered by the date. > > What I don't like, is that people forget to state the city and state of > recordings. Does anyone know where Hofstra University is supposed to be? > > Thanks, > Jerry Hofstra University is located in Hempstead, NY. Frank -- ============================================================================== Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 It's not that simple, no matter how you wish it so. You made public statements from a position of false authority; now you're having them shoved down your throat. Welcome to netnews. -- Thomas Maddox From EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK Sun Oct 6 14:27:23 1996 From: EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK (Philosophical Phil) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 19:27:23 +0100 Subject: HW: what I finally bought... Message-ID: I'd just like to butt in and agree that "Urban Guerilla" is a brilliant sing and seeing it mentioned reminded of just how much I thought "Shot Down In The Night" was an absolutley brilliant track, which reminded me of how good the "Live '79" album was, and once I've finished working tonight, I'm off home to play it!!!!!! Phil "The lives of great men all remind us We must lead our lives sublime And in passing leave behind us Foot prints in the sands of time" Philip Wane The Nottingham Trent University Nottingham, Not So Merry England From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 7 18:19:24 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 18:19:24 BST Subject: HW: yes I do believe in (Pink) Fairies! Message-ID: Paradise Island: ok - I have to admit I like at least one track of this album. And since half of the album is taken up by that one track then I have no regrets at all about purchasing this one! There are six tracks - the first five are ok and I was preparing to think I'd got a competent but not particularly exciting album. Guitar work is *excellent* but music style is a bit strange. First track has atmosphere, the next two edge further into a country music style than I normally enjoy while the Man with a Golden Gun should have been shot at conception (IMO). Jungle Drums is a drum instrumental which sounds startlingly like O Yuki Conjugate. And then came the final track. This *is* amazing. It starts off similar to Douglas In The Jungle with drums and a simple bass riff and then builds with some keyboards? and finally the lead guitar that just flows wonderfully across the top. After 15 mins of this track I defy anyone who normally listens to Hawkwind-type space music not to be jigging around to it! It is simply one long instrumental jam session (30 mins of it) in the very best Cosmic Jokers / early Hawkwind style. If you don't like long trance-like guitar sessions don't even think about it. But I think it's terrific! cheers jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Oct 7 05:20:51 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 10:20:51 +0100 Subject: BOC: Good Deal? Message-ID: 3 CD set for 10 UKP - Club Ninja, Cultosaurus Erectus and Blue Oyster Cult. Is this a good place to start or am I going to get the wrong idea about this otherwise wonderful band?! :) I gather from previous posts that Club Ninja sucks! Is this the case? -- Jon Browne From squinn at DIGITAL.NET Mon Oct 7 16:36:15 1996 From: squinn at DIGITAL.NET (Shawn Quinn) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 16:36:15 -0400 Subject: BOC: Stone Mountain Setlist Message-ID: John A Swartz wrote: > > Cool to hear that BOC is working some new material in the set - makes me > hope the new album will really come out. And even if not, hey, at least > they're playing new tunes. > > Looking at the setlist, I also noticed that Eric sang only a few songs - > I hope he's only "resting" his voice for the new recordings, and that > there's no serious problem there. > > John I wondered about Eric's voice as well. ETI was much more 'layed' back. Shawn From jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK Mon Oct 7 16:37:01 1996 From: jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:37:01 +0100 Subject: BOC: Good Deal? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, Jon Browne wrote: > 3 CD set for 10 UKP - Club Ninja, Cultosaurus Erectus and Blue Oyster > Cult. Is this a good place to start or am I going to get the wrong idea > about this otherwise wonderful band?! :) I gather from previous posts > that Club Ninja sucks! Is this the case? > -- > Jon Browne Dear Jon, buy buy buy! `Cultosaurus Erectus' is a brilliant album which goes as close to space-rock as BOC tread, and `Black Blade' as others have said on the list is v. like the HW Chronicles stuff: not having heard that I'll take their word on it. `Blue Oyster Cult' is a truly great first album, with no really weak moments, although there are a few downright strange ones. If you like your rock heavy, slightly macabre, and with madly ambitious guitar-playing, this will go down very well indeed. The sound quality is pretty poor, but what the hell. As for Club Ninja, well, even if you throw it away because, well, it's nearly _pop_, you still got two top albums for a fiver each. Where did you see this deal? It sounds like a good `for when I get CD' investment... Yours, Jon /_______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 327450) jaj20 at hermes.cam.ac.uk | | ======================================================================| | "`It's a Venusian space bassist,' said Turner the bird being." | | (Hawkwind, sleeve notes to 'Doremi Fasol Latido') | \_______________________________________________________________________/ From squinn at DIGITAL.NET Mon Oct 7 16:39:46 1996 From: squinn at DIGITAL.NET (Shawn Quinn) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 16:39:46 -0400 Subject: BOC: Good Deal? Message-ID: Jon Browne wrote: > > 3 CD set for 10 UKP - Club Ninja, Cultosaurus Erectus and Blue Oyster > Cult. Is this a good place to start or am I going to get the wrong idea > about this otherwise wonderful band?! :) I gather from previous posts > that Club Ninja sucks! Is this the case? > -- > Jon Browne Seems like a reasonable price to me - especially given that CN is out of print. Although it's not my favorite album, its well worth a listen or two...White Flags, Dancin' in the Ruins, and Perfect Water, Spy in the House of the Night, and When the War Comes are all, as far as I am concerned, great songs. Shawn From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Mon Oct 7 17:31:41 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:31:41 UT Subject: Good Deal? Message-ID: Oh yeah - I saw this in HMV too! :) Can't really go wrong at that price, I reckon. Club Ninja has its share of shit, it's true, but the others are well worth it (if not BOC at their very best). - Andy ObCD: Gillian Welch - _Revival_ From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Mon Oct 7 18:50:19 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:50:19 EST Subject: BOC: Good Deal? Message-ID: > > 3 CD set for 10 UKP - Club Ninja, Cultosaurus Erectus and Blue Oyster > Cult. Is this a good place to start or am I going to get the wrong idea > about this otherwise wonderful band?! :) I gather from previous posts > that Club Ninja sucks! Is this the case? > -- > Jon Browne I think that's a pretty fair deal. CN does suck but is still worth owning for a few random moments of brilliance. CE is somewhat weak but way ahead of CN, and of course features Al throughout. BOC may be the best album of all time [okay you could say that about any of the first 3]. So, yeah, jump all over it! theo From stayer at PI.NET Mon Oct 7 10:25:23 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:25:23 PDT Subject: Hofstra University Message-ID: So, it's Nektar live at Hofstra University, Hempstead NY, USA, 1977. Thanks to you all! (Especially A.K. Wadleigh) Another thing why the i'net is so great. >Can't imagine Hawkwind there. I couldn't imagine Nektar playing there, but the tape is great! Thanks, Jerry From delacour at UNM.EDU Mon Oct 7 19:51:36 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:51:36 -0600 Subject: BOC: Good Deal? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, Jon Browne wrote: > 3 CD set for 10 UKP - Club Ninja, Cultosaurus Erectus and Blue Oyster > Cult. Is this a good place to start or am I going to get the wrong idea > about this otherwise wonderful band?! :) I gather from previous posts > that Club Ninja sucks! Is this the case? > -- > Jon Browne > Jon; Contrary to popular belief on this list, Club Ninja DOES NOT suck. It was great for the time & the circumstances that were surrounding the band. Perfect Water & White Flags still stand strong today. Manuel... Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From squinn at DIGITAL.NET Mon Oct 7 21:49:54 1996 From: squinn at DIGITAL.NET (Shawn Quinn) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:49:54 -0400 Subject: BOC: Good Deal? Message-ID: > Jon; Contrary to popular belief on this list, Club Ninja DOES NOT suck. > It was great for the time & the circumstances that were surrounding > the band. Perfect Water & White Flags still stand strong today. I AGREE !!!! Shawn From StevenTice at AOL.COM Mon Oct 7 22:17:18 1996 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:17:18 -0400 Subject: BOC: Good Deal? Message-ID: Well, everyone has different taste in music anyway, and yours might not fit the majority. You might love Club Ninja! But it's good for you to be aware that most BOC fans feel it is one of BOC's low points. Cultosaurus features one of BOC's best songs, "Black Blade," so it's worth picking up just for that (not that there aren't some other good points, too). The music on the eponymous first album is, for the most part, quite strong, but the production values leave a lot to be desired. If only they'd remaster that one! By the way, Encore Books just opened a disc section at our local store, and they have Imaginos for $10.95! And here I thought it was becoming hard to find at any price.... SET From videofest at MEDIOPOLIS.DE Mon Oct 7 22:34:31 1996 From: videofest at MEDIOPOLIS.DE (VideoFest Berlin) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 03:34:31 +0100 Subject: Calvert sounds & news Message-ID: hi there, Calvert news again - a new page with an illustrated Calvert poem has been added: 'Buster Keaton and the Virgin Sperm Dancer' - including various pics of the wolrd's most famous stoneface and an audio-file of Calvert reading the poem. (Wav-format). More Calvert audio (readings) can be heard on the page on Calvert's stageplay 'The Box'. - files that were never released before. more links, pics etc. are to be found all over the site - check out the NEWS page for the latest updates: http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/calnews.htm hope you like it....enjoy....and drop me a line when you come along. Knut Gerwers VideoFest Mediopolis Berlin e.V. Potsdamer Str. 96 D - 10785 Berlin Germany tel: *30 - 262 8714 fax: *30 - 262 8713 email: videofest at mediopolis.de http://www.mediopolis.de/videofest/ From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Oct 8 04:24:47 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 09:24:47 +0100 Subject: BOC: Good Deal? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Jon Jarrett writes > Where did you see this >deal? It sounds like a good `for when I get CD' investment... Yours, > Jon > Um, just my local HMV, in their seemingly permanant sale. It was either that or Workshop Of The Telescopes but that's about 15 quid. -- Jon Browne From D.K.Hardman at CITY.AC.UK Tue Oct 8 06:11:30 1996 From: D.K.Hardman at CITY.AC.UK (Hardman DK) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:11:30 +0100 Subject: BOC: Simpsons In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Did anyone see the episode of the Simpsons where Homer gets a job as a human cannonball? At one point, he utters the cry "Don't fear the reaper!" Wonder if Matt Groening is a BOC fan? Dave ****************************************************************************** Dave Hardman Department of Psychology Word of the day: City University Northampton Square "Macroy" (noun) - London EC1V 0HB An authoritative, confident opinion based on one you Phone: +44 0171 4778000 x4540 read in a newspaper Fax: +44 0171 4778581 (from "The Deeper Meaning of Liff" by Douglas Adams and John Lloyd) ***************************************************************************** From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Tue Oct 8 06:59:29 1996 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:59:29 +0100 Subject: BOC: Simpsons In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 08 Oct 1996 11:11:30 BST." Message-ID: > Did anyone see the episode of the Simpsons where Homer gets a job as a > human cannonball? At one point, he utters the cry "Don't fear the reaper!" > Wonder if Matt Groening is a BOC fan? I dunno if its that significant. Like it or not, "Don't Fear the Reaper" as a phrase has just achieved minor status in modern popular slang. It made its way into Bill & Ted, probably Beavis & Butthead too sooner or later. Tim "you know when somebody's a cyberpunk if the music coming from their room sounds like a missile strike" The Faker's Guide to Cyberpunk From RBONEY at UGA.CC.UGA.EDU Tue Oct 8 07:37:51 1996 From: RBONEY at UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (Robert Boney) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:37:51 EDT Subject: BOC : Simpsons Message-ID: The episode was about Homer, who was a teen in the '70's who enjoyed "rockin' out" to such bands as Queen and Grand Funk, trying to resolve himself with the '90's rock scene. I think that this was just one more, appropriate allusion to the music of the period and is no real indicator that Groening is worthy of being called a fan. Let him show the sign on a character's wall (Otto would be perfect or Homer in a flashback scene) or have some other song playing in the background in a flashback. Until then, I wouldn't brand Mr. Groening a fan. "If you're starving, eat your horses, eat your dead, or yourself -- but never eat your dog." --General Jarkeld "If you find yourself and a friend being chased by a King Cheetah, you have but one chance: Trip your friend." --Suq'Ata saying ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /////// Robert Stephen Boney ////////////////// ////// WWW: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/2355/ ////////////////// ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Tue Oct 8 14:19:53 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:19:53 +0200 Subject: BOC: Good Deal? Message-ID: theo wrote: > >I think that's a pretty fair deal. CN does suck but is still worth >owning for a few random moments of brilliance. Ha ha ha, where can I hear these moments of brilliance on CN? But of course -I'm not constantly puking when I'm listening to it if that is what you mean... :-) > CE is somewhat weak >but way ahead of CN, and of course features Al throughout. Weak? It is not as heavy as BOC -I agree... but is it really a "weak" album? -Daniel Wikdahl . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Oct 8 08:51:41 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:51:41 -0400 Subject: BOC: Good Deal? Message-ID: >3 CD set for 10 UKP - Club Ninja, Cultosaurus Erectus and Blue Oyster Cult. Is this a good place to start or am I going to get the wrong idea about this otherwise wonderful band?! :) I gather from previous posts that Club Ninja sucks! Is this the case? -- Well, others have already chimed in, so I'll chip a few cents (or perhaps pence?) into this as well. Can't speak to the price, but first I'll say that if you have no BOC CDs and you don't plan on getting the entire catalog, something like *Workshop of the Telescopes* might be a "better" choice. It is not complete by most BOC fans' standards, but it does have all their hits, and a pretty decent representation of alot of their material. If you plan on getting most of BOC's catalog, however, then Workshop may be not necessary. Of the 3 CDs in the package, *Blue Oyster Cult* is probably most representative of what BOC fans like about BOC - it's the original, and in some people's opinion the best. I think anyone wanting to get into BOC can't go wrong with this one. *Cultosaurus Erectus* is also very good, and shows BOC a bit more refined, but nonetheless with alot of edge to them (this was their return to heavier stuff after the more comercial sounding *Mirrors*). It didn't sell very well, but there are several great songs on it. *Club Ninja*? - well, I don't think it sucks, but it certainly is somewhat different from the rest of the catalog -- much slicker and more poppy than BOC's other stuff, and also utilizes more outside writers than ever before. You will no doubt find a song or 2 on it that you like (my feeling is that everybody likes a few songs on the album, but everyone doesn't agree on which songs those are, so opinion of the album is very mixed). O.K., if you think that you'll only pick up a few BOC CDs, then get *Workshop of the Telescopes*. If you think you might get a few other BOC CDs after purchasing the above 3-Pak, then I'd say go for it, and then you can use those to decide which other BOC disc you might get. If you like the first album, then you probably will want to pick up *Tyranny and Mutation*, *Secret Treaties*, and maybe *Imaginos* (which is heavy, but produced in a different timeframe from the other 2). If you like *Cultosaurus Erectus*, you might want to follow-up with *Fire of Unknown Origin* or *Spectres* and *Agents of Fortune*. If you like *Club Ninja*, then you might check out *Mirrors* and *Revolution by Night*. Then of course there are the live albums . . . John From mumford at EUNET.NO Tue Oct 8 08:42:42 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 14:42:42 +0200 Subject: HW: ftp-lyrics archives Message-ID: For a while now I haven't been able to access the Hawkwind lyrics ftp-site at ftp://ftp.spc.edu/boc-l/hawkwind-lyrics/complete ... What's up? Or is it my Netscape...? I need a friend to be able to access them for the HW comics project as well........ Christian From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Tue Oct 8 14:44:17 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 14:44:17 BST Subject: Ceta Oreanis - new HW In-Reply-To: Gordon Hundley's message of Thu, 22 Aug 1996 02:26:00 BST-1 Message-ID: Gordon Hundley writes: > It's probably called 'Zeta Orionis', since that's a star in he > constellation of Orion, of particular interest if you'd read > Bauval/Hancock/Gilbert/West's theories about the positioning of the > pyramids of Giza/Dashour. This star (Almtak to the Persians) in Orion's > belt, corresponds to the great pyramid of Giza, which contains shafts > that points to Orion's belt, Sirius and the celestial pole, and marks out > a precessional date of 10240BC. It's definately trying to tell us > something, and many of the theories are pretty spooky... it's got > something to do with my decision to holiday in Egypt next year. :) > > If the price is reasonable ( <30 squids ), I'd be interested in a new HW > booty... > > Gordon. Got your CD now. Could you send me your snailmail address and I'll send it out. Cost is 12 quid plus whatever it costs me for postage. Cheers FoFP From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Tue Oct 8 15:54:02 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 21:54:02 +0200 Subject: HW: ftp-lyrics archives Message-ID: At 02:42 PM 10/8/96 +0200, you wrote: >For a while now I haven't been able to access the Hawkwind lyrics >ftp-site at >ftp://ftp.spc.edu/boc-l/hawkwind-lyrics/complete ... What's up? Or is it >my Netscape...? I need a friend to be able to access them for the >HW comics project as well........ > >Christian > Strange... I tried it immediately (Jon; spelling?) when your mail popped up and it works for me... -Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Tue Oct 8 10:51:23 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 09:51:23 EST Subject: BOC: Good Deal? Message-ID: Daniel says: > theo wrote: > > > >I think that's a pretty fair deal. CN does suck but is still worth > >owning for a few random moments of brilliance. > > Ha ha ha, where can I hear these moments of brilliance on CN? > But of course -I'm not constantly puking when I'm listening to it if that is > what you mean... :-) > Hey, I'm taking it easy on CN. You've doubtless read other comments praising it. I like White Flags, Dancing, Perfect, and Madness [the musicianship, forget the gagging lyrics]. This album's doomed due to the presence of outside writers and the absence of Albert is oppressingly obvious... > > CE is somewhat weak > >but way ahead of CN, and of course features Al throughout. > > Weak? It is not as heavy as BOC -I agree... but is it really a "weak" album? > > -Daniel Wikdahl Maybe not weak, certainly stands up very well indeed when compared to other bands. But I'd say weak compared to the first several BOC albums and Imaginos. BTW, The new ZZ Top album has the band posing in front of a wall of ORANGE speaker cabinets... theo From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Tue Oct 8 16:10:13 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 22:10:13 +0200 Subject: BOC: Good Deal? Message-ID: theo wrote; >Hey, I'm taking it easy on CN. I know. > You've doubtless read other comments >praising it. Yes I have. >I like White Flags, Dancing, Perfect, and Madness [the >musicianship, forget the gagging lyrics]. I don't even like the cover! > This album's doomed due to >the presence of outside writers and the absence of Albert is >oppressingly obvious... > True, and I think Imaginos sounds more like BOC than CN. >Maybe not weak, certainly stands up very well indeed when >compared >to other bands. But I'd say weak compared to the first several BOC >albums and Imaginos. ... you're right of course. I only listen to CE occasionally, not at all as often as I listen to their other albums (except for a few, I think you know at least one of them). > > >BTW, The new ZZ Top album has the band posing in front of a wall of >ORANGE speaker cabinets... :-) :-) Do they use them as well? -Daniel Wikdahl . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Tue Oct 8 11:20:39 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:20:39 EST Subject: BOC: Good Deal? Message-ID: Daniel on my post: > theo wrote; > >Hey, I'm taking it easy on CN. > > I know. > > > You've doubtless read other comments > >praising it. > > Yes I have. > > >I like White Flags, Dancing, Perfect, and Madness [the > >musicianship, forget the gagging lyrics]. > > I don't even like the cover! > > > This album's doomed due to > >the presence of outside writers and the absence of Albert is > >oppressingly obvious... > > > > True, and I think Imaginos sounds more like BOC than CN. > > >Maybe not weak, certainly stands up very well indeed when > >compared > >to other bands. But I'd say weak compared to the first several BOC > >albums and Imaginos. > > ... you're right of course. I only listen to CE occasionally, not at all as > often as I listen to their other albums (except for a few, I think you know > at least one of them). > > > > > >BTW, The new ZZ Top album has the band posing in front of a wall of > >ORANGE speaker cabinets... > > :-) :-) > Do they use them as well? > > -Daniel Wikdahl I don't know, but I imagine that they do. Always preferred Marshalls in the past. It didn't show any amps, just spkr cabs. They like to mix up their gear from time to time, and those Orange cabs are built like a brick shit-house. So they would fit right in with the ZZ vibe. Their tour schedule doesn't include any dates in the area, but it's only a partial, maybe they'll get up here later in the year. When they played here supporting Recyler, they played in the football stadium and darn near sold it out... theo From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Tue Oct 8 10:28:25 1996 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:28:25 -0400 Subject: BOC: Good Deal? Message-ID: In a message dated 96-10-07 21:50:24 EDT, you write: << Jon; Contrary to popular belief on this list, Club Ninja DOES NOT suck. > It was great for the time & the circumstances that were surrounding > the band. Perfect Water & White Flags still stand strong today. I AGREE !!!! >> I've always said that, as a BOC album, CN sucks. As an album, CN's a pretty good album. It's just that I have a MUCH higher standard for BOC than I do for other bands. For what it's worth... R. From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Tue Oct 8 11:45:21 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 16:45:21 +0100 Subject: HW: Adrian Parr Message-ID: Hi folks Adrian Parr asked me to send this attached file to all members of the HAWKWIND mailing list. So here it is: cheers Bernhard -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Parr01.gif Type: application/octet-stream Size: 24254 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Oct 8 10:52:01 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:52:01 +0100 Subject: BOC: Good Deal? In-Reply-To: <199610081251.IAA22133@mbunix.mitre.org> Message-ID: In message <199610081251.IAA22133 at mbunix.mitre.org>, John A Swartz writes > >John Thanks for the overview, John, I think you covered the bases there. I picked the set up about an hour ago. I started getting antsy, if I left it any longer I wouldn't have the choice. I don't tend to buy Best Of's these days, as I usually end up buying "All Of's" sooner or later. :) -- Jon Browne From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Tue Oct 8 17:05:58 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 23:05:58 +0200 Subject: BOC: Good Deal? Message-ID: >I don't know, but I imagine that they do. Always preferred Marshalls >in the past. It didn't show any amps, just spkr cabs. They like to >mix up their gear from time to time, and those Orange cabs are built >like a brick shit-house. So they would fit right in with the ZZ vibe. >Their tour schedule doesn't include any dates in the area, but it's >only a partial, maybe they'll get up here later in the year. When >they played here supporting Recyler, they played in the football >stadium and darn near sold it out... >theo > > They played in Sweden this spring or summer but they played in very very small (as a disparaging term) towns... and they were far from sold out! This is rather strange 'cause ZZtop has always been very popular in Sweden (maybe they used wrong amps :-) -Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Tue Oct 8 17:09:58 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 23:09:58 +0200 Subject: BOC: Good Deal? Message-ID: >Thanks for the overview, John, I think you covered the bases there. I >picked the set up about an hour ago. I started getting antsy, if I left >it any longer I wouldn't have the choice. I don't tend to buy Best Of's >these days, as I usually end up buying "All Of's" sooner or later. :) >-- >Jon Browne > I like that! That's the way I resonate too, now when I've started to buy HW. BTW -I've just ordered "Quark" and "Doremi"... -Daniel Wikdahl . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Oct 8 12:25:35 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 00:25:35 +0800 Subject: HW: Chalice of the Stars Message-ID: This is my first shot at sending e-mail, so I hope it works? Does anybody out there know anything about this album that was mentioned on the back of the "White Zone" CD. Also re: Hawkwind doing the "Doctor Who" theme. Apparently Andrew Cartmel (Who was script editor for the S. McCoy stories) is a Hawkwind fan, and considered approaching them to do the incidental music for "Battlefield." Also, on the subject of the remastered albums (Space Ritual, etc.), couldn't they have included lyrics, etc.. Also, I was disappointed that the Space Ritual was incomplete, in that there was none of that interesting stuff about the Great Pyramid. Also, on the original albums, "Brainstorm" & "Time we Left" were edited. Surely they could have put the full versions on it (Is that them on Vol. 2?). I'm not saying they are bad. They are in fact very good. It's just those little things missing that are annoying. Yours William Duffy From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Tue Oct 8 17:38:11 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:38:11 BST Subject: HW: Adrian Parr In-Reply-To: Bernhard Pospiech's message of Tue, 8 Oct 1996 16:45:21 +0100 Message-ID: Bernhard Pospiech writes: > --=====================_844782321==_ > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi folks > > Adrian Parr asked me to send this attached file to all members of the > HAWKWIND mailing list. > > So here it is: > > > cheers > Bernhard > > --=====================_844782321==_ > Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Parr01.gif" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Parr01.gif" > > R0lGODdhMAIhA4AAAAAAAP///ywAAAAAMAIhAwACYYyPqcvtD6OctNqLs968+w+G4kiW5omm6sq2 > 7gvH8kzX9o3n+s73/g8MCofEovGITCqXzKbzCY1Kp9Sq9YrNarfcrvcLDovH5LL5jE6r1+y2+w2P > y+f0uv2Oz+v3/L7/D+jFRRAfU5fbH0Y5abUXZ7159x8MxZEszRNN1ZVt3ReO5Zmu7RvP9Z3v/R8Y etc. etc. well the work GOD is lurking there in the first line which could be significant...... Any chance he could send it you in English as well? Tho' on second thoughts - given the size of it, maybe not. Is it one of his publications? He recently asked me to publicise these on boc-l but I regret I've never got round to doing it, so will look out his address and general info sometime before the end of the week in case any folk are interested! cheers jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Tue Oct 8 13:42:30 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:42:30 +0200 Subject: HW: Good Deal? Message-ID: At 23:09 1996-10-08 +0200, you wrote: >>Thanks for the overview, John, I think you covered the bases there. I >>picked the set up about an hour ago. I started getting antsy, if I left >>it any longer I wouldn't have the choice. I don't tend to buy Best Of's >>these days, as I usually end up buying "All Of's" sooner or later. :) >>-- >>Jon Browne >> >I like that! That's the way I resonate too, now when I've started to buy HW. >BTW -I've just ordered "Quark" and "Doremi"... > > -Daniel Wikdahl good choice - here's the complete list of the main items you have to look for: Hawkwind X In Search Of Space Doremi Fasol Latido Space Ritual Hall Of The Mountain Grill Warrior On The Edge Of Time Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music Quark Strangeness And Charm Hawklords: 25 Years On. PXR5 Live Seventy Nine Levitation Sonic Attack Church of Hawkwind Choose Your Masques Zones This Is Hawkwind/Do Not Panic The Chronicle Of The Black Sword Live Chronicles Out And Intake The Xenon Codex Space Bandits Palace Springs Electric Tepee It Is The Business of the Future to be Dangerous The Business Trip Psychedelic Warriors: White Zone Alien 4 Love in Space and also a few good compilations/bootlegs: Roadhawks Space Rock from London (essential!!!) Stasis - The U.A. Years 1971-1975 The Hawklords Live The Friday Rock Show Sessions - Live at Reading '86 Mighty Hawkwind Classics 1980-1985 California Brainstorm Tales from Atom Henge - the Robert Calvert Years The Cyberspace Conspiracy 25 Years On ...and when you're got those, let me take you further out on the Thin Ice of Kollektor's Bankrupcy... \\joe From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Tue Oct 8 14:30:00 1996 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 14:30:00 -0400 Subject: OFF: What next? Message-ID: >From: John Haeussler >> >>To: MONITORING THE FUTURE >> >>Subject: more phone scams >> >>Date: Wednesday, October 02, 1996 1:52PM >> >>>The scam works basically like this: >>> >>>You get home and notice that the message light is blinking >on >>your answering machine. You listen to the message, which >has >>several wrinkles, but the best one is the caller asks you >to >>call a number beginning with area code 809 to receive >>>information about a family member who has been ill. (They may >>>also tell you someone has been arrested, died, you have won a >>>wonderful prize, etc.) >>> >>>In any event, concerned or curious, you make the call. >>>Sometimes the phone will be answered by a person who claims to >>>speak broken English. (The idea is to keep you on the line to >>>build up charges.) Or, sometimes you will just get a long >>>recorded message. The bottom lines is, when your phone bill >>>comes, you see this incredible charge, oftentimes more than >>>$100.00 dollars! >>> >>>Crooks are using the 809 numbers as "pay-per-calls" and to get >>>around the US Regulations and 900 number blocking. Every time >>>you call the number, they get a greatly inflated rebate from >>>the foreign phone company. Since the 809 numbers are in the >>>Caribbean, they aren't bound by US 900# regulations that >>>require them to warn you of the charge and rate involved, and >>>also to provide a time period during which you may terminate >>>the call without being charged. >>> >>>The newest twist to this scam is to page people using the 809 >>>numbers. With the new area code changes, people unknowingly >>>are returning these calls. When the bill comes, there are >>>HUGE charges for the calls. >>> >>>My suggestion is that no matter how you get the message, if >>>you are asked to call a number with an 809 area code that you >>>don't recognize, DON'T RETURN THE CALL! It's bad enough that >>>the criminal is invading your privacy, don't let them invade >>>you wallet as well! >>> >>>Scams of this type are extremely hard to prosecute and since >>>you did actually make the call, neither your local phone >>>company or your long distance carrier will want to get >>>involved. They'll tell you that they are simply providing >>>the billing for the foreign company. You end up trying to >>>deal (over the phone) with a foreign company that feels they >>>have done no wrong. It can turn into a real nightmare! >>> >>> >>>Please fwd this msg to friends and let people be aware of it! >> >> >> From Chevelle at IO-ONLINE.COM Sun Oct 6 23:13:32 1996 From: Chevelle at IO-ONLINE.COM (Chevelle) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 20:13:32 -0700 Subject: Reading 1986 Programme Message-ID: The address to Rock Of Ages is: sales at rockofa.demon.co.uk John Gray From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Tue Oct 8 14:57:59 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Damon C Capehart) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:57:59 -0500 Subject: HW: Good Deal? In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19961008184117.04875a8a@eka.ericsson.se> Message-ID: On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Johan Edlundh wrote: > good choice - here's the complete list of the main items you have to > look for: > [[ yadda - yadda ]] > > and also a few good compilations/bootlegs: [[snip]] > California Brainstorm Isn't this an official live release? Damon C Capehart | aka Le Monsieur Damon | dcapehar at utdallas.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have questions about the QUEST Bible studies and prayer meetings at U.T.D. or about QUEST in general, e-mail me at QUEST at utdallas.edu, or visit the QUEST website at http://www.utdallas.edu/orgs/quest/ From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Tue Oct 8 16:52:27 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 21:52:27 +0100 Subject: Reading 1986 Programme Message-ID: >The address to Rock Of Ages is: sales at rockofa.demon.co.uk Thanks John!! cheers Bernhard From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Tue Oct 8 16:17:26 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 22:17:26 +0200 Subject: HW: Good Deal? Message-ID: At 13:57 1996-10-08 -0500, you wrote: >On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Johan Edlundh wrote: >> good choice - here's the complete list of the main items you have to >> look for: >> [[ yadda - yadda ]] >> >> and also a few good compilations/bootlegs: >[[snip]] >> California Brainstorm >Isn't this an official live release? don't think so - rather semi official instead - like the Hawklords Live? *I* don't count it as an Main Release, because it took too long time between recording and release - 19 months - and Main Releases for me is when somebody release something new, something *current*. and I'm not too sure the Hawks was involved in this US release either... but both items is still too good for being ranked along with fellows like Junkie Yuri and the Earlie Daze. > Damon C Capehart | aka Le Monsieur Damon | dcapehar at utdallas.edu \\joe From Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM Tue Oct 8 15:45:14 1996 From: Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 14:45:14 -0500 Subject: HW: Chalice of the Stars Message-ID: . Also, on the original albums, >"Brainstorm" & "Time we Left" were edited. Surely they could have put >the full versions on it (Is that them on Vol. 2?). >>This couldn't have been done without re-mixing down the entire master tapes. It would have been impossible to re-mix these tapes and come up with the same sound that makes the original so good. If you have ever seen or mixed down even a 4-track porta-studio recording, you will appreciate the problems involved. The feeling was 'why run the chance of messing up a wonderful mix for the sake of 10 minutes?' If you also compare the versions that are on the 'Vol II' album with the actual Space Ritual lp, you will see what is meant by the quality of the final mix. Star Rats From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Tue Oct 8 16:37:12 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 22:37:12 +0200 Subject: HW: Chalice of the Stars Message-ID: >>"Brainstorm" & "Time we Left" were edited. Surely they could have put >>the full versions on it (Is that them on Vol. 2?). > >The feeling was 'why run the chance of messing up a wonderful mix for the >sake of 10 minutes?' If you also compare the versions that are on the 'Vol >II' album with the actual Space Ritual lp, you will see what is meant by the >quality of the final mix. If you compare 'Time We Left' that are on the 'Vol II' album with the actual Space Ritual lp, you will see what is meant by the Ultimate Bass Freak Out by Bass Assassin #1. >Star Rats \\joe From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Tue Oct 8 17:51:49 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:51:49 -0400 Subject: HW: Good Deal? Message-ID: I seem to remember traffic "way-back-when" that this is an official release, but more like a fan-club effort. The band gave official permission to allow the release but I don't think that they had any real hand in the engineering and/or the release. Many complaints about the very narrow stereo field (damn-near mono) is another thing that I remember about this one. Anyone with more up-to-date brain storage than my '56-era technology? obCDPlayer: TONTO's Expanding Head Band / TONTO Rides Again (yes that TONTO, the original polyphonic analog synthesizer ensemble! The original "Zero Time" release, plus extra tracks! Groovy, man! Where's my lava lamp???) Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com ---------- From: Johan Edlundh[SMTP:hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE] Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 1996 4:17 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: HW: Good Deal? At 13:57 1996-10-08 -0500, you wrote: >On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Johan Edlundh wrote: >> good choice - here's the complete list of the main items you have to >> look for: >> [[ yadda - yadda ]] >> >> and also a few good compilations/bootlegs: >[[snip]] >> California Brainstorm >Isn't this an official live release? don't think so - rather semi official instead - like the Hawklords Live? *I* don't count it as an Main Release, because it took too long time between recording and release - 19 months - and Main Releases for me is when somebody release something new, something *current*. and I'm not too sure the Hawks was involved in this US release either... but both items is still too good for being ranked along with fellows like Junkie Yuri and the Earlie Daze. > Damon C Capehart | aka Le Monsieur Damon | dcapehar at utdallas.edu \\joe -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Is it one of his > publications? He recently asked me to publicise these on boc-l > but I regret I've never got round to doing it, so will look out his > address and general info sometime before the end of the week in case any > folk are interested! > > cheers > > jill As a reader rather than a contributor to list I'll jump on this item. The message sent was a picture in 'gif' format from the line: Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Parr01.gif" and that means the original file needed to manipulated to fit into the unix dominated mail servers. The two main methods for encoding such a file are "uuencode" (now seen less often) or mime (the newer method and gaining more popularity). This was a mime encoded message from the line: Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 So you'll need a mime aware tools for your mail reader. There are plugons available for Eudora, pine, elm, mh and probably most other mail systems as well as stand alone programs for some systems. Regards, David -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Systems Programmer | Productivity Through Technology Information Technology Services | Deakin University | email: djve at deakin.edu.au Geelong VIC 3217 Australia | Also: root, postmaster, admin, Tel: +61 52 273384 Fax: +61 52 272010 | webmaster & usenet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From paul at PCMICRO.COM.AU Tue Oct 8 18:04:07 1996 From: paul at PCMICRO.COM.AU (Paul G Ward) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 09:04:07 +1100 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: This just came in from Rob Godwin ..... ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: cgp at icom.ca Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:41:35 -0400 To: Assassin Sonique Subject: SA & CYM Hello Mr Assassin, Can you do me a favour and post this onto BOC/Hawk archives?? I've just been reading the BOC/Hawk archives and I can't believe that after waiting all these years for SA and CYM the only comments are "The track cues are in the wrong places" and "MM shouldn't be allowed to sing!" I'm a huge Hawkfan and I've spent the last four years trying to ensure that the whole catalogue made it to the streets of the USA and Canada, SA and CYM took 4 years of negotiating and then to cap it off we managed to make both available through EBS in the UK and with bonus tracks and bonus packaging. Did anyone notice any of this?? Hey, they're finally out!!!!!! I, for one, am happy about that and I'm sorry that we screwed up by putting Silver Machine on there once too many. By the way the cue stop is at the beginning of Arrival In Utopia (which is the track everyone seems to like). The question now is what the hell do I go after now? I ran out of Hawkwind! My job here is done!!!!!! best to all Rob Godwin (Griffin Music) PS It's a good thing MM doesn't read the archives, he might be forced to do something weird to you all! -- "If we knew what we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Ward, R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd ................................................................... Phone/Fax: +61 3 9888-9333/+61 3 9888-9001 Business Mail: mailto:paul at pcmicro.com.au ................................................................... Private Mail: mailto:sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au World Wide Web: http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- From mumford at EUNET.NO Wed Oct 9 03:59:40 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 09:59:40 +0200 Subject: Artists needed! Message-ID: Hi y'all, We are currently two artists gearing up to do Hawkwind Comix, with adaptations of Hawkwind lyrics. The ones we are covering so far are Jack of Shadows, Spirit of the Age, and possibly Urban Guerilla, Master of the Universe and Secret Agent. We need more artists! The book would be a non-profit, small-size black & white comic with about 15 - 20 pages, and any suggestions and contributions would be welcome! It wouldn't have a large print run, maybe 200-400 at first (depending on the demand of course) and will mainly be distributed on the net, but we would be looking for other channels as well. I'm also planning on putting up a web page with excerpts from it. Depending on how many contributors we can get, the sooner it'll be out - sometime next year... Contact me with any suggestions or contributions at mumford at eunet.no.... Christian From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 9 10:07:31 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:07:31 BST Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM In-Reply-To: Paul G Ward's message of Wed, 9 Oct 1996 09:04:07 +1100 Message-ID: Paul G Ward writes: > This just came in from Rob Godwin ..... > > Hello Mr Assassin, > Can you do me a favour and post this onto BOC/Hawk archives?? > > > I've just been reading the BOC/Hawk archives and I can't believe that > after waiting all these years for SA and CYM the only comments are > "The track cues are in the wrong places" and "MM shouldn't be allowed > to sing!" I'm a huge Hawkfan and I've spent the last four years trying > to ensure that the whole catalogue made it to the streets of the USA > and Canada, SA and CYM took 4 years of negotiating and then to cap it > off we managed to make both available through EBS in the UK and with > bonus tracks and bonus packaging. Did anyone notice any of this?? Hey, > they're finally out!!!!!! I, for one, am happy about that and I'm > sorry that we screwed up by putting Silver Machine on there once too > many. By the way the cue stop is at the beginning of Arrival In Utopia > (which is the track everyone seems to like). > Hey - this is a touch harsh!!! The albums have only just been made available for purchase - very few people have got them yet - I haven't and several other folk I know (who would be willing to review) haven't either. Also when the project was first mooted there was a discussion and I can clearly remember FoFP posted a long and very complimentary article about Rob Godwin with appreciation for all he has done and the efforts he had put into getting these two CD's available for circulation and distribution together with thanks for his efforts. And several people backed this up as well. I endorse all of this - I'm delighted that the albums have finally made it to CD and if anyone has kept copies of the previous correspondence thanking Rob Godwin please could they forward it. cheers jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 9 11:24:49 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 11:24:49 BST Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM In-Reply-To: Paul G Ward's message of Wed, 9 Oct 1996 09:04:07 +1100 Message-ID: > This just came in from Rob Godwin ..... > > The question now is what the hell do I go after now? I ran out of > Hawkwind! My job here is done!!!!!! The Weird Tapes Rob, the Weird Tapes! > > Rob Godwin (Griffin Music) FoFP From dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM Wed Oct 9 07:14:56 1996 From: dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM (Jeremy Dacombe) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 07:14:56 EDT Subject: HW: Weird Message-ID: --- Received from LIMEMO1.DACOMBJ 4709 09/10/96 12.11 -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBMMAIL INTERNET GATEWAY INTERNET Yeah, I agree, definitely the weird tapes. They are priceless. Mine are dissintegrating at a fast rate of knots! Jez From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Wed Oct 9 07:56:34 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:56:34 +1100 Subject: HW: Good Deal? Message-ID: On 8 Oct 96 at 22:17, Johan Edlundh wrote: > >> California Brainstorm > >Isn't this an official live release? > > don't think so - rather semi official instead - like the Hawklords Live? > > *I* don't count it as an Main Release, because it took too long time between > recording and release - 19 months - and Main Releases for me is when > somebody release something new, something *current*. > and I'm not too sure the Hawks was involved in this US release either... > > but both items is still too good for being ranked along with fellows like > Junkie Yuri and the Earlie Daze. C'mon \\joe ... Cal Brainstorm ranks *way* above those two .... or is it because you haven't found it on vinyl ;^) Sonique -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Wed Oct 9 09:11:52 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 15:11:52 +0200 Subject: HW: Good Deal? Message-ID: At 22:56 1996-10-09 +1100, you wrote: >On 8 Oct 96 at 22:17, Johan Edlundh wrote: > >> >> California Brainstorm >> >Isn't this an official live release? >> >> don't think so - rather semi official instead - like the Hawklords Live? >> >> *I* don't count it as an Main Release, because it took too long time between >> recording and release - 19 months - and Main Releases for me is when >> somebody release something new, something *current*. >> and I'm not too sure the Hawks was involved in this US release either... >> >> but both items is still too good for being ranked along with fellows like >> Junkie Yuri and the Earlie Daze. > >C'mon \\joe ... Cal Brainstorm ranks *way* above those two yes, that's why I mentioned CB, but not Yuri in the initial message... >.... or is >it because you haven't found it on vinyl ;^) umm... Rob Godwin, are you still there..? >Sonique \\joe From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Wed Oct 9 09:21:57 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 09:21:57 -0400 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: In a message dated 96-10-09 08:56:46 EDT, you write: >The question now is what the hell do I go after now? I ran out of >> Hawkwind! My job here is done!!!!!! > >The Weird Tapes Rob, the Weird Tapes! >> Just when you thought you were out---they suck you back in! regards, Bill Stewart PS RJ Karyn> word here is Club Bene SUCKS the BIG ONE--i'll call ya tonite From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Oct 9 09:23:34 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 09:23:34 -0400 Subject: OFF: What next? Message-ID: One of my co-workers was burned by this scam. Be wary of strangers bearing gifts, or however the saying goes... John From mumford at EUNET.NO Wed Oct 9 08:31:54 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:31:54 +0200 Subject: OFF: Dictators Message-ID: The Dictators are touring Europe. They played here in Oslo last Sunday, but the gig was sold out at the small club they played at, so I didn't get to see them... :( Christian From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Wed Oct 9 10:49:32 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 09:49:32 EST Subject: OFF: Dictators Message-ID: > > The Dictators are touring Europe. They played here in Oslo last Sunday, > but the gig was sold out at the small club they played at, so I didn't > get to see them... :( > > Christian Hey, do you have any idea wha the lineup is? theo From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Wed Oct 9 09:51:02 1996 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:51:02 +0100 Subject: OFF: Dictators In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Oct 1996 14:31:54 +0200." <325B9B3A.10E9@eunet.no> Message-ID: > The Dictators are touring Europe. They played here in Oslo last Sunday, > but the gig was sold out at the small club they played at, so I didn't > get to see them... :( > > Christian Whoa. Any idea of the band line-up and/or other dates ? Might be worth a trip. Tim From mumford at EUNET.NO Wed Oct 9 09:00:19 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 15:00:19 +0200 Subject: OFF: Dictators Message-ID: Ted Jackson jr. EL 84 wrote: > > > > > The Dictators are touring Europe. They played here in Oslo last Sunday, > > but the gig was sold out at the small club they played at, so I didn't > > get to see them... :( > > > > Christian > > Hey, do you have any idea wha the lineup is? > theo According to the article I read it's the original one back together. Christian From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Wed Oct 9 15:54:32 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 21:54:32 +0200 Subject: OFF: Dictators Message-ID: At 02:31 PM 10/9/96 +0200, you wrote: >The Dictators are touring Europe. They played here in Oslo last Sunday, >but the gig was sold out at the small club they played at, so I didn't >get to see them... :( > >Christian > > ...and they played in Lund,Sweden, yesterday with Hellacopters (with Nicke Andersson from Entombed) and the Nomads (aka 7 Screaming Dizbusters) as support-acts... I didn't see the them either... :-( -Daniel Wikdahl . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From skarsol at EROLS.COM Wed Oct 9 06:13:55 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:13:55 +0000 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: Paul G Ward wrote: > > This just came in from Rob Godwin ..... > > ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- > From: cgp at icom.ca > Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:41:35 -0400 > To: Assassin Sonique > Subject: SA & CYM > > Hello Mr Assassin, > Can you do me a favour and post this onto BOC/Hawk archives?? > > I've just been reading the BOC/Hawk archives and I can't believe that > after waiting all these years for SA and CYM the only comments are > "The track cues are in the wrong places" and "MM shouldn't be allowed > to sing!" I'm a huge Hawkfan and I've spent the last four years trying > to ensure that the whole catalogue made it to the streets of the USA > and Canada, SA and CYM took 4 years of negotiating and then to cap it > off we managed to make both available through EBS in the UK and with > bonus tracks and bonus packaging. Did anyone notice any of this?? Hey, > they're finally out!!!!!! I, for one, am happy about that and I'm > sorry that we screwed up by putting Silver Machine on there once too > many. By the way the cue stop is at the beginning of Arrival In Utopia > (which is the track everyone seems to like). rob,you must have missed the posts when they were first released. there was the electronic equivalent of dancing in the streets,if i remember correctly. i havent found these in the stores yet,so haven't picked them up.and when i do, it will probably take a month for them to find their way to my stereo,simply because ive heard them so many times.(i do plan to buy them,even tho' ive got both on vinyl and tape,and have paid to have one of them archived on cd-r.) > The question now is what the hell do I go after now? I ran out of > Hawkwind! My job here is done!!!!!! next- i would like to suggest you spent the next four years hammering the band and management to stop whining<;)> about the bootleggers,and start releasing some of the live stuff to you.do it in a series,with limited quantities,and they will sell. the only things NOT in my collection,are the things im likely never going to see. so all that leaves is bootlegs,and if im going to buy those,why shouldnt it be hw and hw relations making the money? thank you for your efforts,they >are< appreciated. > best to all > > Rob Godwin (Griffin Music) > > PS It's a good thing MM doesn't read the archives, he might be forced > to do something weird to you all! > he already has,i think.... rj From skarsol at EROLS.COM Wed Oct 9 06:16:13 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:16:13 +0000 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: M Holmes wrote: > > > This just came in from Rob Godwin ..... > > > > The question now is what the hell do I go after now? I ran out of > > Hawkwind! My job here is done!!!!!! > > The Weird Tapes Rob, the Weird Tapes! > > > > Rob Godwin (Griffin Music) > > FoFP seconded!!!!!!!!!!!!! rj From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Wed Oct 9 11:40:22 1996 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:40:22 -0500 Subject: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: Rob Godwin asked me to pass this along. --- Forwarded mail from cgp at icom.ca From: cgp at icom.ca Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:10:30 -0400 To: Frank Weil Subject: SA & CYM Hello Frank, Just saw your question about SA and CYM on the archives. Both titles are Domestic, however did you spot the mistake? The one that is supposed to have Silver Machine in two versions has THREE! Please apologise to the BOC/Hawk list for me. That is the way the tape came to me and it got by me. Oh well more value for money right?? best Rob Godwin (Griffin Music) ---End of forwarded mail from cgp at icom.ca Just for the record, I think both releases are great. Having never had a chance to hear these albums before, this was a real treat! Frank -- ============================================================================== Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 Q: (Showing man picture.) That's you? A: Yes, sir. Q: And you were present when the picture was taken, right? -- Disorder in the Court: a Collection of 'Transquips' by Richard Lederer From mjf at GRAHAM.COM Wed Oct 9 12:08:40 1996 From: mjf at GRAHAM.COM (Mike Fuller) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 09:08:40 -0700 Subject: HW: Chalice of the Stars In-Reply-To: <199610081945.OAA01673@deliverator.io.com> Message-ID: >>>>> On Tue, 8 Oct 1996 14:45:14 -0500, Hawkwind >>>>> said: >> Also, on the original albums, "Brainstorm" & "Time we Left" were >> edited. Surely they could have put the full versions on it (Is that >> them on Vol. 2?). > This couldn't have been done without re-mixing down the entire master > tapes. It would have been impossible to re-mix these tapes and come up > with the same sound that makes the original so good. If you have ever > seen or mixed down even a 4-track porta-studio recording, you will > appreciate the problems involved. I'm confused -- I thought that Space Ritual was fully digitally remastered? Are you saying that this isn't true, or am I wrong on what digitally remastered means? -- Mike From EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK Wed Oct 9 12:07:23 1996 From: EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK (Philosophical Phil) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:07:23 +0100 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: On the subject of Ron Goodwin and anyone else who puts work into getting stuff re-released, reformatted, packaged etc, then top marks to them. Someone mentioned the Mike Moorcock singing comments, I was one of the people commenting on Mike's singing and I meant the comments to be light hearted, he's a brilliant author but very dodgy singer (IMHO). I know that some of the comments I make, especially any critical one's should be treated lightly. Hell, I'm sat working on something boring, switch to my mail, read some messages, and enjoy sending the odd reply. Sorry, I'm begining to ramble....Back to the point, I'm sure ( I would hope) that the efforts of certain people are appreciated by all subscribers, even if it's not actually articulated very often by most of the mailee's. (Have I just made that word up?) Enough of my ramblings, dusk is beginning to settle over Nottingham.....Phil p.s. Choose Your Masques was the first tour I ever saw and it was *brilliant*! From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Tue Oct 8 23:36:55 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:36:55 +1100 Subject: HW: Hitch Hiker Message-ID: There was some suggestions that Hawkwind should do a Doctor Who cover a couple of weeks ago, and, a few minutes ago, whilst I was watching a program on the telly, an even better idea came to me. Hawkwind (or perhaps more apropriately, Nik Turner) should do a cover of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy theme song! It's a perfect thing for them to do, as not only is it a bloody great song, but has lots of openings for spacey sounds, extended impros etc. Well, I'll be waiting for this with baited breath... -Max Wilcox From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Wed Oct 9 12:39:04 1996 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:39:04 -0400 Subject: OFF: Dictators Message-ID: It's not the original drummer, Richie Teeter, but Frank of the Del-Lords. And prior to departure, it wasn't clear if Scott Kempner, who's gotten rather grand since his second marriage to the twentysomething daughter of Greil Marcus (the rock crit/professor who's only incidentally heir to the Neiman-Marcus dept store, etc) would join 'em. The Dictators have a box set due from Rhino. But to get the new song (by Andy Shernoff/David Roter), "Find Something Beautiful," that was going to appear there as a bonus track until it was nixed by Kempner, who didn't want anything new unless he wrote it, you will have to wait for Roter's album, on which he's backed by the band in question. From mordru at MAGG.NET Wed Oct 9 12:45:30 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:45:30 -0400 Subject: BOC: plates? Message-ID: This was on alt.music.blueoystercult. Anyone know anything about these? >Just to let you all know that I now have in a "NEW" stock of "Blue >Oyster Cult" light switch plates & outlet covers and NOW WITH A NEW >FEATURE..you can choose your favorite picture(s) of the band and thus >get them put on light switch plates and/or outlet covers. > >With Christmas only a few months away, these make great stocking >stuffers and/or presents, so get them now and avoid the Christmas rush. > >For prices (single plates at only $5.00), sizes and sites to view, just >give me a shout at: MACENT at DIRECT.CA and I would be more than happy to >pass on further info. > >Sue Macdonald +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Oct 9 13:06:46 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:06:46 +0100 Subject: HW: Hitch Hiker In-Reply-To: <325B1DD7.6A65@student.uq.edu.au> from "Max Wilcox" at Oct 9, 96 02:36:55 pm Message-ID: > Hawkwind (or > perhaps more apropriately, Nik Turner) should do a cover of the > Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy theme song! It's a perfect thing for > them to do, as not only is it a bloody great song, but has lots of > openings for spacey sounds, extended impros etc. That's the Eagles' "Journey of the Sorceror" of course. Cheers, Carl ********************************************************************** Carl Edlund Anderson ASNAC Dept, U of Cambridge cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk ********************************************************************** From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Wed Oct 9 13:12:58 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig Shipley) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:12:58 PDT Subject: HW: Hitch Hiker In-Reply-To: <325B1DD7.6A65@student.uq.edu.au>; from "Max Wilcox" at Oct 9, 96 2:36 pm Message-ID: Max flung these electrons on me screen... > > There was some suggestions that Hawkwind should do a Doctor Who cover a > couple of weeks ago, and, a few minutes ago, whilst I was watching a > program on the telly, an even better idea came to me. Hawkwind (or > perhaps more apropriately, Nik Turner) should do a cover of the > Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy theme song! It's a perfect thing for > them to do, as not only is it a bloody great song, but has lots of > openings for spacey sounds, extended impros etc. > Well, I'll be waiting for this with baited breath... > -Max Wilcox > Wasn't the HhG2tG theme song "Journey Of The Sorcerer" by the Eagles? Or was that just for the closing credits? (I know "JotS" was used at one point in the original series, but it's been aeons ago that I saw it...) obCDPlayer: Camel / Never Let Go -- -m------- Craig Shipley aka: craigs at pyramid.com ---mmm----- Pyramid Technology Corporation, a Siemens Nixdorf Co. -----mmmmm--- 1100 Johnson Ferry Rd. Suite 400 -------mmmmmmm- Atlanta, GA 30342 (404) 845-3404 From pitkin at MARYWOOD1.MARYWOOD.EDU Wed Oct 9 13:23:24 1996 From: pitkin at MARYWOOD1.MARYWOOD.EDU (Bryan Pitkin) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:23:24 E Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: I agree the weird tapes are the way to go If you don't believe me you try finding replacements for worn copys cheers bryan From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Wed Oct 9 00:40:49 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 15:40:49 +1100 Subject: HW: Hitch Hiker Message-ID: Carl E. Anderson wrote: > > > Hawkwind (or > > perhaps more apropriately, Nik Turner) should do a cover of the > > Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy theme song! It's a perfect thing for > > them to do, as not only is it a bloody great song, but has lots of > > openings for spacey sounds, extended impros etc. > > That's the Eagles' "Journey of the Sorceror" of course. > > Cheers, > Carl > > ********************************************************************** > Carl Edlund Anderson ASNAC Dept, U of Cambridge cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk > ********************************************************************** Which album is this from? I wouldn't mind picking it up just for that, though I don't particularly have much of a likeing for them, but this may change my mind. Is the bit in the song very long? -Max Wilcox From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Wed Oct 9 13:48:25 1996 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 12:48:25 -0500 Subject: HW: Area 51 WWW site Message-ID: Apologies if this has been posted before. I found a WWW site tangentially related to Hawkwind. Those interested in the topic of Area 51 / Area S4 / UFOs / Nellis Air Force Range in Nevada should check out the URL http://www.ufomind.com/ Frank -- ============================================================================== Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 I was sad because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no feet. So I said, "Got any shoes you're not using?" -- Steven Wright From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 9 18:52:59 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:52:59 BST Subject: HW: Wierd Tape replacements In-Reply-To: Bryan Pitkin's message of Wed, 9 Oct 1996 13:23:24 E Message-ID: Bryan Pitkin writes: > I agree the weird tapes are the way to go > If you don't believe me you try finding replacements for worn copys > > cheers > bryan Wolden Studios was still issuing these last time I heard. I've got the address lurking in the archives somewhere if you need it. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK Wed Oct 9 14:09:03 1996 From: jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 19:09:03 +0100 Subject: HW: Hitch Hiker In-Reply-To: <325B2CD1.2B3E@student.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: Max, `Journey of the Sorceror' is on the Eagles' album `One of These Nights,' and is totally unlike everything else on there. But it's worth buying just for that one song, I think: and I did like `One of These Nights' itself in my teenage years... Jon /________________________________________________________\ | () | | Jon Jarrett () "What that boy needs is | | Pembroke College () a damn good haircut | | Cambridge CB2 1RF () and a spell in the | | jaj20 at hermes.cam.ac.uk () Army" | \___________________________()___________________________/ From cipriano at COURANT.INFI.NET Wed Oct 9 11:17:29 1996 From: cipriano at COURANT.INFI.NET (Cipriano) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 15:17:29 +0000 Subject: HW: Area 51 WWW site Message-ID: Frank Weil wrote: > > Apologies if this has been posted before. I found a WWW site > tangentially related to Hawkwind. Those interested in the topic of > Area 51 / Area S4 / UFOs / Nellis Air Force Range in Nevada should > check out the URL http://www.ufomind.com/ > > Frank > I checked it out and it seems like a real-life X-Files! Thanks Frank. > -- >Paul Cipriano ======================================================================= ======= > Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 > > I was sad because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no feet. > So I said, "Got any shoes you're not using?" -- Steven Wright This sounds alot like a song from The Foreman's cd "Folk Heroes". The song surprising is entitled "No Shoes": "I was feeling sorry for myself Because I had no Shoes. But then I met a man who had no feet. And I said "Can I have your shoes?" They(The Foreman) have a new cd out called "What's Left?" From Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM Wed Oct 9 15:02:45 1996 From: Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:02:45 -0500 Subject: HW: Chalice of the Stars Message-ID: At 09:08 AM 10/9/96 -0700, you wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 8 Oct 1996 14:45:14 -0500, Hawkwind >>>>>> said: > >>> Also, on the original albums, "Brainstorm" & "Time we Left" were >>> edited. Surely they could have put the full versions on it (Is that >>> them on Vol. 2?). > >> This couldn't have been done without re-mixing down the entire master >> tapes. It would have been impossible to re-mix these tapes and come up >> with the same sound that makes the original so good. If you have ever >> seen or mixed down even a 4-track porta-studio recording, you will >> appreciate the problems involved. > >I'm confused -- I thought that Space Ritual was fully digitally >remastered? Are you saying that this isn't true, or am I wrong on what >digitally remastered means? If you read the interview with Peter Mew, you will find out what digitall remastering entials (www.hawkwind.com). Star Rats From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Oct 9 13:08:08 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:08:08 +0100 Subject: HW: Hitch Hiker In-Reply-To: <325B1DD7.6A65@student.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: In message <325B1DD7.6A65 at student.uq.edu.au>, Max Wilcox writes >There was some suggestions that Hawkwind should do a Doctor Who cover a >couple of weeks ago, and, a few minutes ago, whilst I was watching a >program on the telly, an even better idea came to me. Hawkwind (or >perhaps more apropriately, Nik Turner) should do a cover of the >Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy theme song! It's a perfect thing for >them to do, as not only is it a bloody great song, but has lots of >openings for spacey sounds, extended impros etc. > Well, I'll be waiting for this with baited breath... >-Max Wilcox You do know that this is a snip from the Eagles - Journey Of The Sorcerer don't you? :) Douglas Adams said that people were asking him all the time to release this as a single without knowing they had it already. The rest of the song sounds nothing like the snip we're so familiar with. Or so I'm told not having heard anything by the Eagles apart from Hotel Califoria. -- Jon Browne ObCD -HW Undisclosed Files - KILLER LIVE SET!!! From ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM Wed Oct 9 22:21:17 1996 From: ir004728 at MINDSPRING.COM (Albert T Bouchard) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 22:21:17 -0400 Subject: off/other: The Banana Splits' eponymous lp Message-ID: Hmmmmmm... > Cartoons' Greatest Hits_ cd from a friend of mine, which has on it a > cover of "The Tra la la > > Song (One Banana, Two Banana)" by Liz Phair/Material > > Issue. All well and good, and a real blast to hear (I'm possibly a > > bigger Banana Splits fan than I am a Moorcock fan, if you can imagine > Also the Dickies used to do a great version of the "Tra la la" BS theme > song. It seems to me that Mark Barkan, co-writer of "Time Will Take Care of You" by tBS, told me he was also a co-writer of that song. If you still have th LP check it out. I've never seen the record. Al From lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU Wed Oct 9 23:17:09 1996 From: lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU (dave cohen) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 23:17:09 -0400 Subject: off/other: The Banana Splits' eponymous lp In-Reply-To: from "Albert T Bouchard" at Oct 9, 96 10:21:17 pm Message-ID: > > Hmmmmmm... > > > Cartoons' Greatest Hits_ cd from a friend of mine, which has on it a > > cover of "The Tra la la > > > Song (One Banana, Two Banana)" by Liz Phair/Material > > > Issue. All well and good, and a real blast to hear (I'm possibly a > > > bigger Banana Splits fan than I am a Moorcock fan, if you can imagine > > Also the Dickies used to do a great version of the "Tra la la" BS theme > > song. > > It seems to me that Mark Barkan, co-writer of "Time Will Take Care of You" > by tBS, told me he was also a co-writer of that song. If you still have th > LP check it out. I've never seen the record. > Al written by: mark barkan and richie adams From mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK Thu Oct 10 08:51:38 1996 From: mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK (Mike Parkington) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:51:38 +-100 Subject: Artists needed! Message-ID: A copy for me please! Mike P ---------- From: Christian Mumford[SMTP:mumford at EUNET.NO] Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 1996 08:59 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Artists needed! Hi y'all, We are currently two artists gearing up to do Hawkwind Comix, with adaptations of Hawkwind lyrics. The ones we are covering so far are Jack of Shadows, Spirit of the Age, and possibly Urban Guerilla, Master of the Universe and Secret Agent. We need more artists! The book would be a non-profit, small-size black & white comic with about 15 - 20 pages, and any suggestions and contributions would be welcome! 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However, doing a CD for each tape may not be The Best Plan. Comparing the codex to the tracklists we find that the following versions of tracks are the only ones not yet on CD: Weird 101 - Sonic Assassins/ Dave Brock Nuclear Toy Weird 102 - Hawkwind Live/ Hawklords Masters of the Universe Welcome to the Future Sonic Attack Weird 103 - Free Festivals Damnation Alley Circles Slap it on de Table Weird 104 - Hawklords Live 1978 Micro Man Spirit of the Age Urban Guerilla Steppenwolf Freefall Uncle Sam's on Mars Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 [B] Back on the Streets Chronoglide Skyway Brainstorm Wind of Change Forge of Vulcan Steppenwolf Where are they Now? Weird 106 - Hawkwind 1970-73 Make What You Can Jam Weird 107 - Dave Brock First Landing on Medusa [The Awakening] Touchdown Choose your Masks Space Travellers Circles Weird 108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 Down on Her Knees (73) Live and Let Live (73) Etchanatae (73) Roll `em Pete (66) Come On (66) Bring It on Home (68) The three 1973 tracks from Weird 108, "Where Are They Now?" (preferably a longer version), "First Landing On Medusa" (a sequel to The Awakening?), and "Space Travellers" are tracks that appear nowhere else. The others are early or live versions of already known tracks. There are enough good versions to produce a single or double "Weird" CD. I'm not sure that given the amount of Weird tracks which are already out there, there's a case for reproducing each of the Weird Tapes in their entirety. So the question I put to the house is: Which of these tracks are indispensable to a double CD? If people send me their lists, in order of preference and marking which Weird tape they're from, I'll run the poll software over the results and we could forward 'em to Rob Godwin. Cheers FoFP From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Thu Oct 10 07:11:18 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 11:11:18 UT Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: I reckon these are the really essential ones: Weird 104 - Hawklords Live 1978 Micro Man Spirit of the Age Urban Guerilla Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 [B] Back on the Streets Chronoglide Skyway Brainstorm Wind of Change Forge of Vulcan Steppenwolf Plus the "Assassins of Allah" off 105, which isn't readily available on CD, and deserves a wider audience. But then again maybe this rumoured Live 76 will cover most of these bases (might even be the actual same versions in many cases)? Did you miss "Bombed Out" from 107? - Andy From sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU Thu Oct 10 07:17:01 1996 From: sonique at HYME.PCMICRO.COM.AU (Assassin Sonique) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 22:17:01 +1100 Subject: HW: Sonique's Pages Message-ID: Hi all, We are replacing servers today, so if you try, but can't access the pages over the next few days ... DO NOT PANIC! Best, Sonique -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au //// '~ ( --- they http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ /////// : ; --- Fly! From bzhj81 at LAE.LAD.GMEDS.COM Thu Oct 10 09:41:16 1996 From: bzhj81 at LAE.LAD.GMEDS.COM (Jeff Barlow) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 09:41:16 -0400 Subject: HW - Choose Your Masques Message-ID: Hey all... Has it been established which of the last two versions of "Silver Machine" on Choose Your Masques is the full version in the track listing and what is the origin of the other bonus version? Are they simply different mixes or is there more to the story? Jeff From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Thu Oct 10 10:29:00 1996 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:29:00 +0100 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM In-Reply-To: M Holmes' mail of Thu, 10 Oct 96 11:36 -0100 Message-ID: > However, doing a CD for each tape may not be The Best Plan. Comparing > the codex to the tracklists we find that the following versions of > tracks are the only ones not yet on CD: According to the copy I have (27 Sep 96), there are several more tracks that should be listed here. > Weird 101 - Sonic Assassins/ Dave Brock > Nuclear Toy The Dream I;Assassination;The Dream II > Weird 102 - Hawkwind Live/ Hawklords > Masters of the Universe > Welcome to the Future > Sonic Attack Time Of > Weird 103 - Free Festivals > Damnation Alley > Circles > Slap it on de Table Uncle Sam's On Mars Elements In any case, I would like to see these versions of High Rise and Robot included on the CD. The first three tracks are all sequed together, and make an excellent tape. BTW, This version of USoM ends with The Iron Dream, although it's not in the track listing. Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. Tel: +44 131 668 1564 From stayer at PI.NET Thu Oct 10 03:18:30 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 00:18:30 PDT Subject: HW: Hitch Hiker Message-ID: >> That's the Eagles' "Journey of the Sorceror" of course. >Which album is this from? I wouldn't mind picking it up just for that, >though I don't particularly have much of a likeing for them, but this >may change my mind. Is the bit in the song very long? "One Of These Nights" Jerry From stayer at PI.NET Thu Oct 10 03:16:29 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 00:16:29 PDT Subject: HW: Hitch Hiker Message-ID: >Wasn't the HhG2tG theme song "Journey Of The Sorcerer" by the Eagles? >Or was that just for the closing credits? (I know "JotS" was used at >one point in the original series, but it's been aeons ago that I saw it...) The main HHG theme was JotS. Jerry From gary at METALITHIC.COM Thu Oct 10 11:59:15 1996 From: gary at METALITHIC.COM (Gary Wingert) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:59:15 -0700 Subject: Off:Trepan me - off the alien! Message-ID: Los Altos, California: A 42-year-old unemployed carpenter parked his truck on a Los Altos residential street, pulled out his tools, then repeatedly pounded a chisel into his head, nearly killing himself, police said Monday. The man said he was trying to eliminate a virus injected into his brain by aliens, but the effort -- considered by police to be a suicide attempt -- left him with a crushed skull. "There are buildings, there are bridges, but, come on, this is someone who was really intent on doing it," said Detective Sgt. Bob Lacey of the Los Altos Police Department. "It's just mind-boggling that this occurred." Police responded after a neighborhood woman reported a bloodied man was staggering near a Ford pickup truck. He looked so gruesome that the woman asked him if the blood was part of a Halloween prank, Lacey said. The man revealed he recently had been laid off from work and was being evicted from his apartment, Lacey said. The man explained in graphic detail how he pulled into the street near a community center, grabbed two knives and three chisels, then plopped his head on the rear bumper before driving the tools into it. Lacey said officers did not find a suicide note with the man, who was committed last year for a psychiatric evaluation by Mountain View police. A hospital spokeswoman Monday afternoon said the man was in fair condition. Police did not press charges. -- Gary Wingert gary at metalithic.com Metalithic Systems, Inc. http://www.metalithic.com +1.415.332.2690 VOX +1.415.332.6735 FAX From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu Oct 10 12:48:02 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 00:48:02 +0800 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: Dave Berry wrote: > > > However, doing a CD for each tape may not be The Best Plan. Comparing > > the codex to the tracklists we find that the following versions of > > tracks are the only ones not yet on CD: > > According to the copy I have (27 Sep 96), there are several more tracks that should be > listed here. > > > Weird 101 - Sonic Assassins/ Dave Brock > > Nuclear Toy > The Dream I;Assassination;The Dream II > > > Weird 102 - Hawkwind Live/ Hawklords > > Masters of the Universe > > Welcome to the Future > > Sonic Attack > Time Of > > > Weird 103 - Free Festivals > > Damnation Alley > > Circles > > Slap it on de Table > Uncle Sam's On Mars > Elements > > In any case, I would like to see these versions of High Rise and Robot > included on the CD. The first three tracks are all sequed together, > and make an excellent tape. > > BTW, This version of USoM ends with The Iron Dream, although it's not > in the track listing. > > Dave. > > -- > Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, > Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. > Tel: +44 131 668 1564 Nuclear Toy is on the Griffin edition of "Levitation," and Time of is on the latest "Friends & Relations" ("Cosmic Travellers"), However, maybe they could release tracks not re-released too much, such as these 2, and also the tracks on the "Friends & Relations" LP's not on CD. How about also re-releasing Dave Brock's first 2 albums complete, with the extra "Weird Tapes" recordings & "Social Alliance," "Raping Robots on the Street," as well as the songs that appeared on "Friends & Relations." How about also releasing Nik's "Xitintoday" along with the extra material, all ICU albums, as wll as the Imperial Pompadours on CD. Yours, William From swann at MINDVOX.COM Thu Oct 10 14:49:55 1996 From: swann at MINDVOX.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:49:55 -0400 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM In-Reply-To: from "Andrew Gilham" at Oct 10, 96 11:11:18 am Message-ID: Andrew Gilham writes: > > I reckon these are the really essential ones: > > Weird 104 - Hawklords Live 1978 > Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 [B] [...] > > Plus the "Assassins of Allah" off 105, which isn't readily available on CD, > and deserves a wider audience. Better watch your step, Gilham, you just publically agreed with me about something. ;-) Steve swann at panix.com From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Thu Oct 10 23:35:39 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 05:35:39 +0200 Subject: And where is the mail today Message-ID: And where's the mail today... tjaba- Daniel . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From mumford at EUNET.NO Fri Oct 11 05:00:38 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:00:38 +0200 Subject: HW: Wat Tyler Message-ID: I think Wat Tyler's version of Master of the Universe on the covers tapes is brilliant! Who is he/they? What albums he/they released? Any info would be appreciated! Christian From mxw at DMU.AC.UK Fri Oct 11 06:21:25 1996 From: mxw at DMU.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 11:21:25 +0100 Subject: BOC-L Digest - 10 Oct 1996 to 11 Oct 1996 In-Reply-To: <199610110926.KAA26625@listserv.rl.ac.uk> Message-ID: > Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 22:17:01 +1100 > From: Assassin Sonique > Subject: HW: Sonique's Pages > > Hi all, > > We are replacing servers today, so if you try, but can't access the > pages over the next few days ... DO NOT PANIC! > Do not adjust your television set... > Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:59:15 -0700 > From: Gary Wingert > Subject: Off:Trepan me - off the alien! > > Los Altos, California: > > A 42-year-old unemployed carpenter parked his truck on > a Los Altos residential street, pulled out his tools, > then repeatedly pounded a chisel into his head, nearly > killing himself, police said Monday. Is this one of the 'improvement of the Gene Pool' volunteers I wonder? Maxine P.S Does anyone wanna buy my HW Covers tapes, e-mail mxw at dmu.ac.uk From mumford at EUNET.NO Fri Oct 11 06:35:33 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 12:35:33 +0200 Subject: HW: NYC Limelight '95 Message-ID: Does anyone have a tape of this show? Christian From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Fri Oct 11 13:40:42 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:40:42 BST Subject: Off:Trepan me - off the alien! In-Reply-To: Gary Wingert's message of Thu, 10 Oct 1996 08:59:15 -0700 Message-ID: Gary Wingert writes: > Los Altos, California: > > A 42-year-old unemployed carpenter parked his truck on > a Los Altos residential street, pulled out his tools, > then repeatedly pounded a chisel into his head, nearly > killing himself, police said Monday. > > The man said he was trying to eliminate a virus > injected into his brain by aliens, but the effort -- > considered by police to be a suicide attempt -- left > him with a crushed skull. > > "There are buildings, there are bridges, but, come on, > this is someone who was really intent on doing it," said > Detective Sgt. Bob Lacey of the Los Altos Police > Department. "It's just mind-boggling that this occurred." > > Police responded after a neighborhood woman reported a > bloodied man was staggering near a Ford pickup truck. > He looked so gruesome that the woman asked him if the > blood was part of a Halloween prank, Lacey said. > > The man revealed he recently had been laid off from > work and was being evicted from his apartment, Lacey > said. The man explained in graphic detail how he pulled > into the street near a community center, grabbed two > knives and three chisels, then plopped his head on the > rear bumper before driving the tools into it. > > Lacey said officers did not find a suicide note with > the man, who was committed last year for a psychiatric > evaluation by Mountain View police. > > A hospital spokeswoman Monday afternoon said the man > was in fair condition. Police did not press charges. What for? Assault And Battery? ;-) FoFP From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Fri Oct 11 13:44:02 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:44:02 BST Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM In-Reply-To: Dave Berry's message of Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:29:00 +0100 Message-ID: Dave Berry writes: > > However, doing a CD for each tape may not be The Best Plan. Comparing > > the codex to the tracklists we find that the following versions of > > tracks are the only ones not yet on CD: > > According to the copy I have (27 Sep 96), there are several more tracks that should be > listed here. > > > Weird 101 - Sonic Assassins/ Dave Brock > > Nuclear Toy > The Dream I;Assassination;The Dream II These are all part of one track on Church of Hawkwind I think. FoFP From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Fri Oct 11 08:57:23 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 14:57:23 +0200 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: At 13:44 1996-10-11 BST, you wrote: >Dave Berry writes: > >> > However, doing a CD for each tape may not be The Best Plan. Comparing >> > the codex to the tracklists we find that the following versions of >> > tracks are the only ones not yet on CD: >> >> According to the copy I have (27 Sep 96), there are several more tracks that should be >> listed here. >> >> > Weird 101 - Sonic Assassins/ Dave Brock >> > Nuclear Toy >> The Dream I;Assassination;The Dream II > >These are all part of one track on Church of Hawkwind I think. 'Some People Never Die' >FoFP \\joe From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Fri Oct 11 08:56:17 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:56:17 +0100 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM In-Reply-To: <9610101136.aa25993@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> from "M Holmes" at Oct 10, 96 11:36:29 am Message-ID: > Which of these tracks are indispensable to a double CD? Anything which isn't already on CD is indispensible to a CD release. And I shall be miffed if they don't fill those CDs up as much as possible. Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************* Carl Edlund Anderson "So that's Terra. Oohwee, cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk look out wenchlings, here http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html come the Hawklords." Dept. of ASNAC, University of Cambridge -Lord Lemmy (Hawkwind) ************************************************************************* From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Fri Oct 11 11:18:08 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 16:18:08 +0100 Subject: HW: NYC Limelight '95 Message-ID: At 12:35 11.10.96 +0200, you wrote: >Does anyone have a tape of this show? YES !! Bernhard From mumford at EUNET.NO Fri Oct 11 09:29:48 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:29:48 +0200 Subject: HW: NYC Limelight '95 Message-ID: Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > > At 12:35 11.10.96 +0200, you wrote: > >Does anyone have a tape of this show? > > YES !! > > Bernhard Well, figured you did :) - I was there and would very much like a tape of the show. How is the sound quality? Can I send you a couple of blank tapes for a tape? Christian From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Fri Oct 11 11:22:48 1996 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 16:22:48 +0100 Subject: HW: Wat Tyler Message-ID: >I think Wat Tyler's version of Master of the Universe on the covers >tapes is brilliant! Who is he/they? What albums he/they released? Any >info would be appreciated! > >Christian Wat Tyler are great! They're a band from London, and have lots of singles and a few albums. If you're interested, then write to: RUGGER BUGGER DISCS PO BOX 357 LONDON SE19 1AD ENGLAND The label is run by the drummer, and you should be able to pick up a comp. CD for about a fiver. From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Fri Oct 11 11:22:00 1996 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 16:22:00 +0100 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM In-Reply-To: Dave Berry's mail of Thu, 10 Oct 96 15:29 +0100 Message-ID: > The Dream I;Assassination;The Dream II Ah - I missed the line in the codex that said: * 2 is based on demo version 1 Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. Tel: +44 131 668 1564 From skarsol at EROLS.COM Fri Oct 11 09:19:29 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:19:29 +0000 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: HOW ABOUT THE VER. OF CIRCLES ON THE WEIRD TAPES.IT IS MY FAVORITE version.is it on any comps/albums? rj From videofest at MEDIOPOLIS.DE Fri Oct 11 14:30:12 1996 From: videofest at MEDIOPOLIS.DE (VideoFest Berlin) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 20:30:12 +0200 Subject: Time for Sale - for free - and more Message-ID: hello all, the (almost daily) news on the Calvert page - if you ever wanted to know what Calvert actually sang on your boots of the legendary TIME FOR SALE song ... now you can find out on the Calvert site / LYRICS page / part I furthermore there's a new page added: CALV-ART - it lists all the 'artistic' pages of the Calvert site - i.e. the illustrated lyrics and poems - most of them are now equipped with sound files. Go there via the home- or the news pages. very best, knut VideoFest Mediopolis Berlin e.V. Potsdamer Str. 96 D - 10785 Berlin Germany tel: *30 - 262 8714 fax: *30 - 262 8713 email: videofest at mediopolis.de http://www.mediopolis.de/videofest/ From Olivier_Boigey at TECHLINK.FR Sat Oct 12 08:47:27 1996 From: Olivier_Boigey at TECHLINK.FR (Olivier Boigey) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 12:47:27 GMT Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: In message ID <325D28C1.5064 at iinet.net.au> on 10/10/96, BOC/Hawkwind Discussion L wrote: BDL> How about also releasing Nik's "Xitintoday" along with the extra BDL> material, all ICU albums, as wll as the Imperial Pompadours on CD. Approved!!! Olivier Via HOLY GALACTIC IMPERIUM ++ - sent via an evaluation copy of BulkRate (unregistered). From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Fri Oct 11 19:45:28 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 10:45:28 +1100 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: Olivier Boigey wrote: > > In message ID <325D28C1.5064 at iinet.net.au> on 10/10/96, BOC/Hawkwind > Discussion L wrote: > > BDL> How about also releasing Nik's "Xitintoday" along with the extra > BDL> material, all ICU albums, as wll as the Imperial Pompadours on CD. YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES (YES) YES YES YES YES YES [YES] YES YES yes!!!!!!! -Max Wilcox From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Sat Oct 12 17:32:01 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 23:32:01 +0200 Subject: Where are you tonight? Message-ID: No mail... and no answer from Dan Lindfors (sigh)... I truly ( Jon; is this correct English ) live on the other side of the earth. :-) Johan Edlundh, vet du om att du har exakt samma namn som frontfiguren i Tiamat? -Daniel ( tooooooooooo drunk .........sorryyyyyyyy) . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From pitkin at MARYWOOD1.MARYWOOD.EDU Sat Oct 12 22:09:37 1996 From: pitkin at MARYWOOD1.MARYWOOD.EDU (Bryan Pitkin) Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 22:09:37 E Subject: HW: NYC Limelight '95 Message-ID: BERNHARD I'D ALSO BE INTERESTED IN GETTING A COPY, I CAN SEND BLANKS TOO BRYAN PITKIN PITKIN at AC.MARYWOOD.EDU From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sun Oct 13 07:33:49 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 12:33:49 +0100 Subject: Where are you tonight? In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961012213201.008e9fc8@mailbox.mc.hik.se> from "Daniel Wikdahl" at Oct 12, 96 11:32:01 pm Message-ID: > Johan Edlundh, vet du om att du har exakt samma namn som frontfiguren i T= > iamat? Actually I remember some brief discussion and confusion on irock in which it was briefly unclear whether _our_ Johan Edlundh was or was not the same person as Tiamat's Johan Edundh :) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Sun Oct 13 08:31:41 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 14:31:41 +0200 Subject: Where are you tonight? Message-ID: At 12:33 1996-10-13 +0100, you wrote: >> Johan Edlundh, vet du om att du har exakt samma namn som frontfiguren i T= >> iamat? > > Actually I remember some brief discussion and confusion on irock >in which it was briefly unclear whether _our_ Johan Edlundh was or was not >the same person as Tiamat's Johan Edundh :) there was also some confusion on the Sabbath list, when Tiamat was touring with the Sabs, and I was rambling of old ozzie boots... maybe I'm just schizophrenic..? >Cheers, >Carl cheers - \\joe :0) From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Sun Oct 13 16:21:37 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 21:21:37 +0100 Subject: HW: Waiting For My Man Message-ID: Hi folks I am looking for the lyrics from the following song WAITING FOR MY MAN Hawkwind played this song during the European tour early 1977. AFAIK it is not an original HW song but from Lou Reed Thanks for your help Bernhard From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Sun Oct 13 16:26:45 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 16:26:45 -0400 Subject: HW: Waiting For My Man Message-ID: Great song this. It was on the Velvet Underground and Nico (with the big banana on the cover). Excellent album. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX _I'm Waiting For The Man_ (Reed) I'm waiting for my man Twenty-six dollars in my hand Up to Lexington, 125 Feel sick and dirty, more dead than alive I'm waiting for my man Hey, white boy, what you doin' uptown? Hey, white boy, you chasin' our women around? Oh pardon me sir, it's the furthest from my mind I'm just lookin' for a dear, dear friend of mine I'm waiting for my man Here he comes, he's all dressed in black Beat up shoes and a big straw hat He's never early, he's always late First thing you learn is you always gotta wait I'm waiting for my man Up to a Brownstone, up three flights of stairs Everybody's pinned you, but nobody cares He's got the works, gives you sweet taste Ah then you gotta split because you got no time to waste I'm waiting for my man Baby don't you holler, darlin' don't you bawl and shout I'm feeling good, you know I'm gonna work it on out I'm feeling good, I'm feeling oh so fine Until tomorrow, but that's just some other time I'm waiting for my man From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 14 12:13:10 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:13:10 BST Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM In-Reply-To: SKARSOL's message of Fri, 11 Oct 1996 13:19:29 +0000 Message-ID: SKARSOL writes: > HOW ABOUT THE VER. OF CIRCLES ON THE WEIRD TAPES.IT IS MY FAVORITE > version.is it on any comps/albums? > rj >From the codex: The Fifth Second Of Forever L 1 Weird 103 - Free Festivals {Circles} L 1 Hawkwind Live at Stonehenge and Watchfield {Circles} 2 Levitation 2 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] 2 Silver Machine CD 3 Weird 107 - Dave Brock {Circles} L 4 This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic {Circles} L 4 Utopia 1984 {Circles} L 4 Zones/Stonehenge CD {Circles} So the Weird 103 version is only on the vinyl bootleg of same, but the Weird 107 version is on the Stonehenge album in both formats and on the Utopia 1984 vinyl. Cheers FoFP From PN013 at LAMP.AC.UK Mon Oct 14 08:27:58 1996 From: PN013 at LAMP.AC.UK (THE CIDER KING) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 12:27:58 GMT Subject: off/other: The Banana Splits' eponymous lp Message-ID: Umm would it be possible for someone either to post or to mail me the whole lyrics to the Banana Splits song? I'm asking this strange request because a friend of mine (when he's drunk I might add - he's not so stupid as to do this when he's sober) likes to sing it loudly. Unfortunately he can't remember any of the words so it goes something like : "Tra La la, Tra La La La, Tra La La, La La La La, Something, something something something something something some, something something something something something something some, Tra La la, Tra La la la, etc... If I could shove the words under his nose when he starts this act it would make the whole thing a bit more bearable! Cheers Martin PN013 at LAMP.AC.UK From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 14 13:06:27 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 13:06:27 BST Subject: HW: Sun day 1999 Message-ID: yeah - well, who else didn't get to see the partial eclipse because of the grey mush across the sky all day 8-(( Still, I reckon we should start making future plans. Full eclipse - August 11th 1999, visible from Penzance and places south. Start booking your holidays now!!! Wonder if we could persuade Brock to persuade one of his West Country acquaintances to run a Solar Eclipse Festival..... Tho' I guess Carnac would really be the place to be! Yours speculatively jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK Mon Oct 14 09:28:23 1996 From: a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK (Andrew Fergus Wilson) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 13:28:23 -0000 Subject: Sun day 1999 Message-ID: Is that Carnac in '99 or '97, i seem to remember making a pact of some sort to meet up with some bikers (warriors on the edge of time, natch) at Carnac for an eclipse party in '97. Were we so befuddled as to get things wrong by two years? actually, i think i already know the answer... a.wilson at derby.ac.uk "up and down round and round centre for social research story of my life" - Inner City Unit university of derby http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/6368 ---------- > From: J Strobridge > Still, I reckon we should start making future plans. Full eclipse - > August 11th 1999, visible from Penzance and places south. > Start booking your holidays now!!! > > Wonder if we could persuade Brock to persuade one of his West Country > acquaintances to run a Solar Eclipse Festival..... > > Tho' I guess Carnac would really be the place to be! > > Yours speculatively > > jill From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Mon Oct 14 08:38:27 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 14:38:27 +0200 Subject: OFF:Absinth Message-ID: I just wonder if anybody has saved Scott's Absinth-recipe? Could you please send it to me then?????? -Daniel ps it's for a friend -of course ds . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Mon Oct 14 08:58:07 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 08:58:07 -0400 Subject: OFF:Absinth In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961014123827.008d32c8@mailbox.mc.hik.se> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Oct 1996, Daniel Wikdahl wrote: > I just wonder if anybody has saved Scott's Absinth-recipe? > Could you please send it to me then?????? The BOC-L archives saved Scott's recipe. Mosey on over to http://listserv.spc.edu/archives/boc-l.html and avail yourself of the "search the archives" link to track it down. You'll love it; it's a way of life! > ps it's for a friend -of course ds Naturally... :-) Cheers, Paul. ob3CD: Frank Zappa, _L\"ather_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM Mon Oct 14 13:56:57 1996 From: shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM (shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 13:56:57 BST Subject: off/other: The Banana Splits' eponymous lp Message-ID: Gird your loins for the officially :-) transcribed version of The Banana Splits Song :- Tra-la-la, la-la-la-la. One banana, two banana, Three banana, four. Four bananas make a bunch And so do many more. Over hill and highway, The banana buggies go Coming on to bring you The Banana Splits Show. Tra-la-la, la-la-la-la. Four banana, three banana, Two banana, one. Four bananas playing In the bright warm sun. Flipping like a pancake, Popping like a cork, Fleegle, Bingo, Drooper and Snork. Tra-la-la, la-la-la-la. Tra-la-la, la-la-la-la. From EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK Mon Oct 14 09:10:16 1996 From: EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK (Philosophical Phil) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 14:10:16 +0100 Subject: off/other: The Banana Splits' eponymous lp Message-ID: Dear Martin, Unfortunately I haven't got the Banana Splits lyrics to hand (I'm at work) but will try to get you them. I'm sure I've seen them on a web site - Nostalgia Web. (This site had loads of stuff on the Splits, Marine Boy and loads of other 60's kids TV.) The Banana Splits video has just been re-released too. Phil "The lives of great men all remind us We must lead our lives sublime And in passing leave behind us Foot prints in the sands of time" Philip Wane The Nottingham Trent University Nottingham, Not So Merry England From EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK Mon Oct 14 09:14:10 1996 From: EPA3WANEP at NTU.AC.UK (Philosophical Phil) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 14:14:10 +0100 Subject: Sun day 1999 Message-ID: Interesting to see the mails from Jill and A.Wilson about the eclipse. Some friends and I were discussing this possibility last night. In fact several times of late....I reckon that there will be lots of "ravers" (ok I know that terms really out of date but you know the type I mean), hippies, crusties, druggies, and, worst of all, "ordainary holiday makers". Every road to the peninsula is gonna' be jammed and no doubt doubt the police have begun planning "Operation Blackout" or whatever they end up calling it already. Never mind the excuse of potential public order problems, there's overtime to be had! It would be a very good time for a gathering of the clans...... Phil From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Mon Oct 14 11:20:50 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:20:50 +0100 Subject: HW: Waiting For My Man Message-ID: Many thanks Martyn!!!! cheers Bernhard From D.K.Hardman at CITY.AC.UK Mon Oct 14 11:12:45 1996 From: D.K.Hardman at CITY.AC.UK (Hardman DK) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 16:12:45 +0100 Subject: off/other: The Banana Splits' eponymous lp In-Reply-To: <9610141256.AA16640@icarus.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Oct 1996 shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM wrote: > Gird your loins for the officially :-) transcribed version of The Banana > Splits Song :- [snippety-snip........] Hey, wasn't there a couple of lines going something like "Makin' up a mess[?] of fun Makin' up a mess of fun Lots of fun for everyone Tra-la-la...." Dave ****************************************************************************** Dave Hardman Phone: +44 0171 477 8000 x4540 Department of Psychology Fax: +44 0171 477 8581 City University Northampton Square London EC1V 0HB ***************************************************************************** From jpepin1 at GRFN.ORG Mon Oct 14 11:37:11 1996 From: jpepin1 at GRFN.ORG (jesse pepin) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 11:37:11 -0400 Subject: off/other: The Banana Splits' eponymous lp In-Reply-To: <9610141256.AA16640@icarus.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> Message-ID: One must remember if you are doing the Liz Phair version on Saturday Morning Cartoon Greatist Hits AKA toon-a-Palooza the lyrics are changed. How much I don't know. On Mon, 14 Oct 1996 shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM wrote: > Gird your loins for the officially :-) transcribed version of The Banana > Splits Song :- > > > Tra-la-la, la-la-la-la. > > One banana, two banana, > Three banana, four. > Four bananas make a bunch > And so do many more. > > Over hill and highway, > The banana buggies go > Coming on to bring you > The Banana Splits Show. > > Tra-la-la, la-la-la-la. > > Four banana, three banana, > Two banana, one. > Four bananas playing > In the bright warm sun. > > Flipping like a pancake, > Popping like a cork, > Fleegle, Bingo, > Drooper and Snork. > > Tra-la-la, la-la-la-la. > Tra-la-la, la-la-la-la. > From skarsol at EROLS.COM Mon Oct 14 13:56:51 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 17:56:51 +0000 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: M Holmes wrote: > > SKARSOL writes: > > > HOW ABOUT THE VER. OF CIRCLES ON THE WEIRD TAPES.IT IS MY FAVORITE > > version.is it on any comps/albums? > > rj > > >From the codex: > > The Fifth Second Of Forever > L 1 Weird 103 - Free Festivals {Circles} > L 1 Hawkwind Live at Stonehenge and Watchfield {Circles} > 2 Levitation > 2 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] > 2 Silver Machine CD > 3 Weird 107 - Dave Brock {Circles} > L 4 This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic {Circles} > L 4 Utopia 1984 {Circles} > L 4 Zones/Stonehenge CD {Circles} > > So the Weird 103 version is only on the vinyl bootleg of same, but the > Weird 107 version is on the Stonehenge album in both formats and on the > Utopia 1984 vinyl. > > Cheers > > FoFP heh- im embarrassed! i have both of these and didnt know....rj thanks From cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Mon Oct 14 20:10:53 1996 From: cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:10:53 EST Subject: HW: story of a boot Message-ID: I finally got up off my butt to track down a copy (or three :-) of the new Boulder Colorado 95 boot CD, from the same fellow that did 'Nova Drive'. Ooops! I waited much too long, and now these CDs **are no longer available**. This Boulder show was an audience show recorded direct to MiniDisc (therefore DDD). The quality is above that of the average analog tape. You may have heard one song from this recording on the 'Corridors of Flame' boot, "Void of Golden Light" I think it was. Turns out that the fellow contacted Mr. Drug(ged) Stiff, as he has done for the first three CDs, to inform the band what he was doing and to offer a free copy. (I understand that he did this for the previous CDs also?) Only this time, Mr.Sniff requested that he *STOP* putting out this CD. Being the good chap that this guy is, he immediately ceased to produce any further copies. Any existing copies were already reserved, so poor little me goes hungry this time... :-( Doug's further response was along the lines of, if the audio quality of this boot is so good, perhaps the band itself would like to release it. While I personally have my doubts, such a thing is certainly within the realm of reason when it comes to Hawkwind. So, Doug and the band are supposedly evaluating their copy of this recording to see what they think... Those of you who managed to grab a copy of this critter, count yourselves lucky (for now). Those that didn't, place your hopes on the band digging the recording enough to release it officially. I have no idea what the full run of this boot turned out to be. My guess is around a dozen(?), since the full run of the previous 3 CDs were each less than 40. Captain Cloud cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Mon Oct 14 19:36:05 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Damon C Capehart) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:36:05 -0500 Subject: HW: story of a boot In-Reply-To: <9609148453.AA845345453@hpsc.hisd.harris.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 14 Oct 1996, cjohnson wrote: > I finally got up off my butt to track down a copy (or three :-) of the > new Boulder Colorado 95 boot CD, from the same fellow that did 'Nova > Drive'. Ooops! I waited much too long, and now these CDs **are no > longer available**. Just to let you guys know, Mr. Cloud is talking about _The_'A'_Files_ boot. > I have no idea what the full run of this boot turned out to be. My > guess is around a dozen(?), since the full run of the previous 3 > CDs were each less than 40. I just got off the phone with Mike Coleman, whose friend is the guy who was putting out this CD, and Mike testifies that there were exactly seven (7) copies of _The_'A'_Files_ produced, all of which have been claimed. Just thought I'd augment Capt. Cloud's info. Damon C Capehart | aka Le Monsieur Damon | dcapehar at utdallas.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have questions about the QUEST Bible studies and prayer meetings at U.T.D. or about QUEST in general, e-mail me at QUEST at utdallas.edu, or visit the QUEST website, maintained by scarson at utdallas.edu, at http://www.utdallas.edu/orgs/quest/ From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Tue Oct 15 00:29:42 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 06:29:42 +0200 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: >> > HOW ABOUT THE VER. OF CIRCLES ON THE WEIRD TAPES.IT IS MY FAVORITE >> > version.is it on any comps/albums? >> > rj >> >> >From the codex: >> >> The Fifth Second Of Forever >> L 1 Weird 103 - Free Festivals {Circles} >> L 1 Hawkwind Live at Stonehenge and Watchfield {Circles} >> 2 Levitation >> 2 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] >> 2 Silver Machine CD >> 3 Weird 107 - Dave Brock {Circles} >> L 4 This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic {Circles} >> L 4 Utopia 1984 {Circles} >> L 4 Zones/Stonehenge CD {Circles} >> >> So the Weird 103 version is only on the vinyl bootleg of same, but the >> Weird 107 version is on the Stonehenge album in both formats and on the >> Utopia 1984 vinyl. >> >> Cheers >> >> FoFP > >heh- im embarrassed! i have both of these and didnt know....rj >thanks cannot find any "5th seconds of forever/circles" on my weird 107 - solo Brock demo's - there's only a "disintegration" sequence where tracklist say "circles" is. \\joe From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Tue Oct 15 11:38:07 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 11:38:07 BST Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM In-Reply-To: Johan Edlundh's message of Tue, 15 Oct 1996 06:29:42 +0200 Message-ID: Johan Edlundh writes: > >> > HOW ABOUT THE VER. OF CIRCLES ON THE WEIRD TAPES.IT IS MY FAVORITE > >> > version.is it on any comps/albums? > >> > rj > >> > >> >From the codex: > >> > >> The Fifth Second Of Forever > >> L 1 Weird 103 - Free Festivals {Circles} > >> L 1 Hawkwind Live at Stonehenge and Watchfield {Circles} > >> 2 Levitation > >> 2 Spirit of The Age ["Elite" compilation CD] > >> 2 Silver Machine CD > >> 3 Weird 107 - Dave Brock {Circles} > >> L 4 This is Hawkwind - Do Not Panic {Circles} > >> L 4 Utopia 1984 {Circles} > >> L 4 Zones/Stonehenge CD {Circles} > >> > >> So the Weird 103 version is only on the vinyl bootleg of same, but the > >> Weird 107 version is on the Stonehenge album in both formats and on the > >> Utopia 1984 vinyl. > >> > >> Cheers > >> > >> FoFP > > > >heh- im embarrassed! i have both of these and didnt know....rj > >thanks > > cannot find any "5th seconds of forever/circles" on my weird 107 - solo > Brock demo's - there's only a "disintegration" sequence where tracklist say > "circles" is. Actually I've begun to suspect that the discography and Codex entries for the weird tapes may be in error. Is anyone interested in checking any of the tapes? Having tracks there which aren't listed, or tracks listed which aren't there, or tracks with the wrong name would simply be carrying on a Hawkwind tradition. The discography entry is: Weird 101 - Sonic Assassins/ Dave Brock Over the Top Magnu Angels of Life Freefall Death Trap Nuclear Toy The War The Dream Assassination The Dream II Satellite [later Phenomenon of Luminosity] Weird 102 - Hawkwind Live/ Hawklords Quark, Strangeness, and Charm Masters of the Universe Welcome to the Future Spirit of the Age Sonic Attack Valium Ten Douglas in the Jungle Time of Weird 103 - Free Festivals High Rise Damnation Alley Uncle Sam's on Mars Robot Cake Out Circles Elements Slap it on de Table Weird 104 - Hawklords Live 1978 Deathtrap Micro Man Spirit of the Age Urban Guerilla Steppenwolf Freefall Uncle Sam's on Mars Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77-78 [A] [this tape was withdrawn and the later one released instead] Flying Doctor Back on the Streets Paranoia Chronoglide Skyway Back on the Streets Assassins of Allah Forge of Vulcan Steppenwolf Where are they Now? Weird 105 - Hawkwind 1976-77 [B] Back on the Streets Chronoglide Skyway Brainstorm Wind of Change Assassins of Allah Forge of Vulcan Steppenwolf Where are they Now? Weird 106 - Hawkwind 1970-73 Make What You Can Masters of the Universe Jam Hurry on Sundown We Do It Earth Calling Weird 107 - Dave Brock Streets of Fear First Landing on Medusa [The Awakening] Touchdown Winter of Discontent Choose your Masks Looking in the Future Space Travellers Circles Speed of Light Bombed Out Weird 108 - Hawkwind 1966-73 Space is Deep (73) Down on Her Knees (73) Live and Let Live (73) Etchanatae (73) Roll `em Pete (66) Come On (66) Dealing With the Devil (67) Bring It on Home (68) Dreaming (71) Shouldn't Do That (71) > \\joe FoFP From mumford at EUNET.NO Tue Oct 15 06:09:22 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 12:09:22 +0200 Subject: OFF: Jane? Message-ID: Is this a 'space-rock' band? They are mentioned on the DarXtar pages and in the HW: Caution :) post awhile back..... or did I misunderstand something? Christian From mordru at MAGG.NET Tue Oct 15 08:30:32 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 08:30:32 -0400 Subject: OFF: Jane? Message-ID: >Is this a 'space-rock' band? They are mentioned on the DarXtar pages and >in the HW: Caution :) post awhile back..... or did I misunderstand >something? I have one tape of them I got from a friend, which has "Between Heaven and Hell" and a few other tracks. I know they're European, I think German or Italian but can't remember which. They come across as rather 'Floyd', using a choir in this track. I like them a lot, but know almost nothing about them save that one of their tunes I can't get out of my head for about an hour after listening to it... +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm From mordru at MAGG.NET Tue Oct 15 12:18:26 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 12:18:26 -0400 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: well, these things tend to get messages flowing, anyways. This was from Bolle in a recent message on alt.music.blueoystercult: >Further More: BOC L Sucks! When they get rid of the heavy load of >Hawkwind, it may turn legit, but in the meantime... >Logic Rules, Stupidity Sux, as always! > >Finally.... Live 1976 is it worth 15.99??? Who ever asked this.... Fuck >You, ( I payed $80.00 for my LVD....) You Tight wad Heretic! Save Yer >Money and rename yourself Scrooge... IDIOT!!!! Who Needs 'em in BOC? >BOLLE_!_? +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm From mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK Tue Oct 15 17:30:42 1996 From: mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK (Mike Parkington) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 17:30:42 +-100 Subject: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: What does this mean? I can't make head or tail of it. Perchance tis bollocks? Mike P. (AKA Dr Nozzle) ---------- From: Andrew A. Apold[SMTP:mordru at MAGG.NET] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 1996 05:18 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble well, these things tend to get messages flowing, anyways. This was from Bolle in a recent message on alt.music.blueoystercult: >Further More: BOC L Sucks! When they get rid of the heavy load of >Hawkwind, it may turn legit, but in the meantime... >Logic Rules, Stupidity Sux, as always! > >Finally.... Live 1976 is it worth 15.99??? Who ever asked this.... Fuck >You, ( I payed $80.00 for my LVD....) You Tight wad Heretic! Save Yer >Money and rename yourself Scrooge... IDIOT!!!! Who Needs 'em in BOC? >BOLLE_!_? +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" 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' M0$8BGB%,!DP'"X '0&QY5$&Q'C!,:78<\#*0-S+ JQNQ4>%W%;%H,D$N,J#N M/UK &N%$<&59, 7 1[!_'.!$01NA6,-,@!^ 3 996PA@,; H'#$*L'E;P21= M(X N(Y!%4 6Q;4[@3.161%C"*2!=04U0!V#L9VA"P1TQ2 20$:L(81&P;!WP4P4`;U4`@U0R'#!$ M24]4(63!WTY"1' 'P F !" G$^!(@@LX\1^V/CCP3$Q%7_0A7Q^V*R88:)]I MKVII[BL*A2K=1=%K2,!M/VVD_B(<0$>B!:$L8 4Q,A!>H3\<\!Q $8 =0"N M0N!R(9XB"H4(`$20!F(3P&$-T&VO >BOLLE_!_? Such a nice gent to have running the BOC fanclub... Cheers, Paul. ob3CD: Frank Zappa, _L\"ather_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Tue Oct 15 12:58:43 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 17:58:43 +0100 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble In-Reply-To: <199610151618.MAA05735@grumpy.magg.net> from "Andrew A. Apold" at Oct 15, 96 12:18:26 pm Message-ID: Gosh, nice to see Bolle is feeling calm and rational. Did he eat something that disagreed with him? ;) Cheers, Carl From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Tue Oct 15 14:07:29 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 13:07:29 EST Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: > > This was from Bolle in a recent message on alt.music.blueoystercult: > > >Further More: BOC L Sucks! When they get rid of the heavy load of > >Hawkwind, it may turn legit, but in the meantime... > >Logic Rules, Stupidity Sux, as always! > > There goes the fuckin' neighborhood! You HW fans! > >Finally.... Live 1976 is it worth 15.99??? Who ever asked this.... Fuck > >You, ( I payed $80.00 for my LVD....) You Tight wad Heretic! Save Yer > >Money and rename yourself Scrooge... IDIOT!!!! Who Needs 'em in BOC? > >BOLLE_!_? Hey, Bolle, don't hold back. It's good to be in touch with one's feelings. And talk about a fool and his money! What's next, Bolle, a 'final solution' for HW fans? theo From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Oct 15 14:11:00 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 02:11:00 +0800 Subject: Chronicles CD Video Message-ID: Can someone shed some light on the CD Video version of the "Chronicles" Video. I know what the extra tracks are, but where do they come from? Are they on video elsewhere? Are they on any other album? I am also curious about some other video recordings? I have all the Jettisounds videos as well as "Live Legends" & the bootleg (or should that be "Weird Video?") from the "Choose Your Masques" Tour. Are any other videos I have seen listed Official? And also where can I get my hands on them (both Official & Unofficial?) From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Tue Oct 15 14:39:10 1996 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 14:39:10 -0400 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: Perchance it's time for the dear fellow to adjust his medication. From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Tue Oct 15 15:48:44 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 14:48:44 EST Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: > >Finally.... Live 1976 is it worth 15.99??? Who ever asked this.... Fuck > >You, ( I payed $80.00 for my LVD....) You Tight wad Heretic! Save Yer > >Money and rename yourself Scrooge... IDIOT!!!! Who Needs 'em in BOC? > >BOLLE_!_? Right! Kill them all, if you wish... And BG, if you've got an extra 80 bucks to throw away, you could always give it to me, or maybe save up a few and throw a party for all the nice BOC L ers who always speak so highly of you... From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Tue Oct 15 15:49:58 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 14:49:58 EST Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: > >Further More: BOC L Sucks! When they get rid of the heavy load of > >Hawkwind, it may turn legit, but in the meantime... > >Logic Rules, Stupidity Sux, as always! > > Bolle, you're living proof that stupidity sucks! From swann at MINDVOX.COM Tue Oct 15 15:01:04 1996 From: swann at MINDVOX.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:01:04 -0400 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble In-Reply-To: <199610151618.MAA05735@grumpy.magg.net> from "Andrew A. Apold" at Oct 15, 96 12:18:26 pm Message-ID: Andrew A. Apold writes: > > well, these things tend to get messages flowing, anyways. > > This was from Bolle in a recent message on alt.music.blueoystercult: > > >Further More: BOC L Sucks! When they get rid of the heavy load of > >Hawkwind, it may turn legit, but in the meantime... > >Logic Rules, Stupidity Sux, as always! > > > >Finally.... Live 1976 is it worth 15.99??? Who ever asked this.... Fuck > >You, ( I payed $80.00 for my LVD....) You Tight wad Heretic! Save Yer > >Money and rename yourself Scrooge... IDIOT!!!! Who Needs 'em in BOC? > >BOLLE_!_? Eloquence, thy name is Bolle. Steve swann at panix.com From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Tue Oct 15 16:11:16 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:11:16 EST Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: > Andrew A. Apold writes: > > > > well, these things tend to get messages flowing, anyways. > > > > This was from Bolle in a recent message on alt.music.blueoystercult: > > > > >Further More: BOC L Sucks! When they get rid of the heavy load of > > >Hawkwind, it may turn legit, but in the meantime... > > >Logic Rules, Stupidity Sux, as always! > > > > > >Finally.... Live 1976 is it worth 15.99??? Who ever asked this.... Fuck > > >You, ( I payed $80.00 for my LVD....) You Tight wad Heretic! Save Yer > > >Money and rename yourself Scrooge... IDIOT!!!! Who Needs 'em in BOC? > > >BOLLE_!_? > > Eloquence, thy name is Bolle. > > Steve > swann at panix.com Let me toss in here, and offer sincere apologies to all the HW fans out there who enrich rather than detract from BOC-L. BG's got his head up his ass, and it's a perfect fit! theo From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Tue Oct 15 16:26:09 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 22:26:09 +0200 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: >> > >Further More: BOC L Sucks! When they get rid of the heavy load of >> > >Hawkwind, it may turn legit, but in the meantime... >> > >Logic Rules, Stupidity Sux, as always! >> > > >> > >Finally.... Live 1976 is it worth 15.99??? Who ever asked this.... Fuck >> > >You, ( I payed $80.00 for my LVD....) You Tight wad Heretic! Save Yer >> > >Money and rename yourself Scrooge... IDIOT!!!! Who Needs 'em in BOC? >> > >BOLLE_!_? does a rock band that released its latest studio album when vinyl was common really need a civil war amongst fans? tell him to put on the ABSOLUTELY NO HW-filter when joining, and we promise all to follow the BOC/HW/BRAIN/NIK codes strictly... \\joe From doug.bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU Tue Oct 15 17:13:21 1996 From: doug.bates at TUCCSTER.TUCC.UAB.EDU (Doug Bates) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 16:13:21 -0500 Subject: Chronicles CD Video Message-ID: Anyone know if the Love in Space video is out on NTSC ? If so where... obCD:Nik Turner, Past or Future >---------- >From: William Duffy[SMTP:xl5 at IINET.NET.AU] >Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 1996 1:11 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Subject: Chronicles CD Video > >I am also curious about some other video recordings? I have all the >Jettisounds videos as well as "Live Legends" & the bootleg (or should >that be "Weird Video?") from the "Choose Your Masques" Tour. Are any >other videos I have seen listed Official? And also where can I get my >hands on them (both Official & Unofficial?) > From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Tue Oct 15 04:27:28 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 19:27:28 +1100 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: Ted Jackson jr. EL 84 wrote: > > > Andrew A. Apold writes: > > > > > > well, these things tend to get messages flowing, anyways. > > > > > > This was from Bolle in a recent message on alt.music.blueoystercult: > > > > > > >Further More: BOC L Sucks! When they get rid of the heavy load of > > > >Hawkwind, it may turn legit, but in the meantime... > > > >Logic Rules, Stupidity Sux, as always! > > > > > > > >Finally.... Live 1976 is it worth 15.99??? Who ever asked this.... Fuck > > > >You, ( I payed $80.00 for my LVD....) You Tight wad Heretic! Save Yer > > > >Money and rename yourself Scrooge... IDIOT!!!! Who Needs 'em in BOC? > > > >BOLLE_!_? > > > > Eloquence, thy name is Bolle. > > > > Steve > > swann at panix.com > > Let me toss in here, and offer sincere apologies to all the HW fans > out there who enrich rather than detract from BOC-L. BG's got his > head up his ass, and it's a perfect fit! > theo After reading all of this Bolle stuff, it made me realise a great thing about this list: there's only a little bit of "flaming" (as it's known) going on and when there is, it is not only creative, but interesting, exciting, amusing, and lets not forget psychedelic! Good going! -Max Wilcox From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Tue Oct 15 04:32:29 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 19:32:29 +1100 Subject: Chronicles CD Video (well, any video realy) Message-ID: While we're on this video business, where can I get ANY earlier (ie pre 1980) HW videos? Especialy any with Ol' Bob Calvert? Is there anywhere I can write to or anything? Or should I just lie down and put my head in a bucket? - Max Wilcox From delacour at UNM.EDU Tue Oct 15 17:56:28 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:56:28 -0600 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble In-Reply-To: <275B6E4695C@hawk.syr.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Ted Jackson jr. EL 84 wrote: > > > > This was from Bolle in a recent message on alt.music.blueoystercult: > > > > >Further More: BOC L Sucks! When they get rid of the heavy load of > > >Hawkwind, it may turn legit, but in the meantime... > > >Logic Rules, Stupidity Sux, as always! > > > > > There goes the fuckin' neighborhood! You HW fans! > > > > > >Finally.... Live 1976 is it worth 15.99??? Who ever asked this.... Fuck > > >You, ( I payed $80.00 for my LVD....) You Tight wad Heretic! Save Yer > > >Money and rename yourself Scrooge... IDIOT!!!! Who Needs 'em in BOC? > > >BOLLE_!_? > > Hey, Bolle, don't hold back. It's good to be in touch with one's > feelings. And talk about a fool and his money! What's next, Bolle, > a 'final solution' for HW fans? > theo > Theo; Hey Theo, at least when Bolle says he's going to trade you something it does not take 4 MONTHS!!!! Manuel... Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Tue Oct 15 19:08:34 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:08:34 EST Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: > Theo; > > Hey Theo, at least when Bolle says he's going to trade you something it does > not take 4 MONTHS!!!! > > Manuel... > Manuel, It's getting close now. In fact, if you want only the Worc. tape I can send it tomorrow. A little longer for some other shit. Your call, bud.. theo Hasn't it been longer than that? From skarsol at EROLS.COM Tue Oct 15 14:37:43 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:37:43 +0000 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: Johan Edlundh wrote: > cannot find any "5th seconds of forever/circles" on my weird 107 - solo > Brock demo's - there's only a "disintegration" sequence where tracklist say > "circles" is. > > \\joe that is weird.my copy has it.its the way out version with the flange effect on brocks voice. ????????? rj From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Tue Oct 15 20:04:27 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 20:04:27 -0400 Subject: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: Bolle; what a complete and total arse-wipe! But, then again, he's probably just getting tired of all of the HW traffic due to the fact that THEY STILL RELEASE NEW MUSIC from time to time. And HW tours are a little more "classy" than appearing at a chili festival at the Redneck Stonehenge! (Hey save the flames, I love BOC, chili and Stone Mountain!) Guess it is hard to keep saying "new album out any DECADE now, maybe, perhaps, who knows???" (Nothing like pissin' off those of us who happen to think both bands are great, eh?) That's it, Bolles' off MY Christmas card list!!! Sheesh, some peoples' kids!!! :-) Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com ---------- From: Andrew A. Apold[SMTP:mordru at MAGG.NET] Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 1996 12:18 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble well, these things tend to get messages flowing, anyways. This was from Bolle in a recent message on alt.music.blueoystercult: >Further More: BOC L Sucks! When they get rid of the heavy load of >Hawkwind, it may turn legit, but in the meantime... >Logic Rules, Stupidity Sux, as always! > >Finally.... Live 1976 is it worth 15.99??? Who ever asked this.... Fuck >You, ( I payed $80.00 for my LVD....) You Tight wad Heretic! Save Yer >Money and rename yourself Scrooge... IDIOT!!!! Who Needs 'em in BOC? >BOLLE_!_? +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2548 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Tue Oct 15 20:20:37 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 00:20:37 UT Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: >This was from Bolle in a recent message on alt.music.blueoystercult: > >>Further More: BOC L Sucks! Don't forget we're "anti-BOC" as well! :) These messages probably *will* be forwarded back to Bolle as evidence of our "anti-BOC" proclivities, by the way, so I might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb, and add that _Cult Classic_ was a massive letdown and definitely wasn't worth the asking price. - Andy (tightwad heretic and proud of it) ObCD: Julian Cope - _Interpreter_ From mccann at AIX1.UCOK.EDU Tue Oct 15 21:58:52 1996 From: mccann at AIX1.UCOK.EDU (Lester I. McCann) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 20:58:52 -0500 Subject: BRAIN: 1997 Cellsum Catalog Message-ID: Good to see that it's officially time to order our copies of _Box_of_Hammers_! I fear that the B&W photocopying doesn't do justice to the cover art. But on to my question: The catalog also includes a CD from the David Roter Method, _Find_Something_Beautiful_. The band members are Jack Rigg, Tommy Mandel, Adny [sic] Schernoff, Ross the Boss, and Eric "Roscoe" Ambel. I'm not much of a fan of the music biz and don't recognize any of those names apart from Mandel (_Imaginos_). Can anyone give us an idea of the style of music we'd be getting on their CD? Al, Deb? --lester P.S. I hope that this "1997" catalog's contents don't preclude other unforseen releases in the next calendar year... :-) From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Tue Oct 15 23:25:30 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 23:25:30 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: 1997 Cellsum Catalog In-Reply-To: <9610160158.AA81106@aix1.ucok.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Lester I. McCann wrote: > Good to see that it's officially time to order our copies of _Box_of_Hammers_! This is good news, and then some! > But on to my question: The catalog also includes a CD from the David > Roter Method, _Find_Something_Beautiful_. The band members are Jack Rigg, > Tommy Mandel, Adny [sic] Schernoff, Ross the Boss, and Eric "Roscoe" > Ambel. I'm not much of a fan of the music biz and don't recognize any > of those names apart from Mandel (_Imaginos_). Can anyone give us an > idea of the style of music we'd be getting on their CD? Al, Deb? I dimly remember Jack Rigg from _Imaginos_ but can't be sure. (I know he lurks somewhere in the BOC/Bouchard musical past.) And isn't Ross the Boss the bass player for Manowar?? Can't forecast what to expect from the new Brain Surgeons release. (Rumours say it's heavier than ever.) I know I have been well-pleased with the previous two albums. Great, eclectic, thoughtful yet kick-ass rock music! (IMHO, as a highly-satisfied customer.) Cheers, Paul. ob3CD: Frank Zappa, _L\"ather_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From mordru at MAGG.NET Tue Oct 15 23:47:40 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 23:47:40 -0400 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: >>This was from Bolle in a recent message on alt.music.blueoystercult: >> >>>Further More: BOC L Sucks! > >Don't forget we're "anti-BOC" as well! :) > >These messages probably *will* be forwarded back to Bolle as evidence of our >"anti-BOC" proclivities, by the way, so I might as well be hung for a sheep as >a lamb, and add that _Cult Classic_ was a massive letdown and definitely >wasn't worth the asking price. > >- Andy (tightwad heretic and proud of it) Yes, but through it all, remember it's all Steve Swann's fault... =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From mordru at MAGG.NET Tue Oct 15 23:53:38 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 23:53:38 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: 1997 Cellsum Catalog Message-ID: >On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Lester I. McCann wrote: > >I dimly remember Jack Rigg from _Imaginos_ but can't be sure. (I know he >lurks somewhere in the BOC/Bouchard musical past.) And isn't Ross the >Boss the bass player for Manowar?? I'm pretty sure Jack Rigg also co-wrote something on Fire of Unknown Origin, I think it was Joan Crawford but am too lazy to check the FAQ right now... =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From mumford at EUNET.NO Wed Oct 16 03:04:09 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:04:09 +0200 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: > >Further More: BOC L Sucks! When they get rid of the heavy load of > >Hawkwind, it may turn legit, but in the meantime... > >Logic Rules, Stupidity Sux, as always! > > > >Finally.... Live 1976 is it worth 15.99??? Who ever asked this.... Fuck > >You, ( I payed $80.00 for my LVD....) You Tight wad Heretic! Save Yer > >Money and rename yourself Scrooge... IDIOT!!!! Who Needs 'em in BOC? > >BOLLE_!_? What an arsehole, this guy needs to grow up a bit! Christian From mumford at EUNET.NO Wed Oct 16 03:12:38 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:12:38 +0200 Subject: Chronicles CD Video Message-ID: Doug Bates wrote: > > Anyone know if the Love in Space video is out on NTSC ? If so where... > I think I saw it at CDworld or CDnow (I don't remember the URL, just look them up).. Christian From shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM Wed Oct 16 08:17:21 1996 From: shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM (shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:17:21 -0300 Subject: BRAIN: 1997 Cellsum Catalog Message-ID: Lester asks about David Roter Method CD Lester, the only musician I know there is Ross the Boss, who was the LEAD guitar player on all Manowar albums upto 'Kings of Metal'. I heard he was sick of the loincloth image & fantasy lyrics, & wanted to play something more 'bluesy'. Hope this helps. Neil. From skarsol at EROLS.COM Wed Oct 16 00:51:05 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 04:51:05 +0000 Subject: Chronicles CD Video Message-ID: William Duffy wrote: > > Can someone shed some light on the CD Video version of the "Chronicles" > Video. I know what the extra tracks are, but where do they come from? > Are they on video elsewhere? > Are they on any other album? these are the encores from the same show or shows.ive never seen them any where else. > I am also curious about some other video recordings? I have all the > Jettisounds videos as well as "Live Legends" & the bootleg (or should > that be "Weird Video?") from the "Choose Your Masques" Tour. Are any > other videos I have seen listed Official? And also where can I get my > hands on them (both Official & Unofficial?) there are lots more official vids, i think, but ya gotta contact hawk merch., and then convert them from pal (unless thats what you use,of course). a cd store nearby (pennsylvania), stocked the chaos video, but when i took it up to the counter the clerk warned me it was in pal, so i still havent seen it. rj From mumford at EUNET.NO Wed Oct 16 05:19:16 1996 From: mumford at EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:19:16 +0200 Subject: HW: cover songs Message-ID: Hawkwind have done a few cover songs, but I wonder what else they have covered live? Recently Bernhard posted that they had covered Velvet Underground's 'Waiting for My Man' live, and they have also covered Pink Floyd's 'Cymbaline' and Rolling Stones' 'Gimme Shelter'.... does anybody know what else they have covered live or otherwise? Is 'Shot Down In the Night' an original Hawkwind song? Christian From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Oct 16 11:35:37 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:35:37 GMT+0100 Subject: HW: cover songs Message-ID: --On ons 16 okt 1996 11.19 "Christian Mumford" wrote: > Hawkwind have done a few cover songs, but I wonder what else they have > covered live? Recently Bernhard posted that they had covered Velvet > Underground's 'Waiting for My Man' live, and they have also covered Pink > Floyd's 'Cymbaline' and Rolling Stones' 'Gimme Shelter'.... does anybody > know what else they have covered live or otherwise? Is 'Shot Down In the > Night' an original Hawkwind song? I think "SDitN" was recorded by Steve Swindells for his solo album after he left HW, so I guess that makes it an original HW recording. The only other thing which I can think of that comes close is a cover of Zappa's "City of Tiny Lights" which I think got played on an Agents of Chaos tour in the early 80s? I think there was also a mid-80s gig where Brock didn't show up and HLL had them doing loads of Hendrix covers or something ;) I'm not sure that any of that stuff (FZ or Hendrix) was recorded (officially anyway). BTW, having grown tired of receiving endless number of fancy-format messages I couldn't read I've decided to become part of the problem and get a fancy-email program. Hope this is all readable :) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From lindfors at ALGONET.SE Wed Oct 16 07:49:36 1996 From: lindfors at ALGONET.SE (Dan Lindfors) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:49:36 +0100 Subject: BRAIN: 1997 Cellsum Catalog Message-ID: At 09:17 1996-10-16 -0300, you wrote: >Lester asks about David Roter Method CD > >Lester, the only musician I know there is Ross the Boss, who was the LEAD guitar player on all Manowar albums upto 'Kings of Metal'. I heard he was sick of the loincloth image & fantasy lyrics, & wanted to play something more 'bluesy'. > >Hope this helps. > >Neil. > Yes, and before Manowar he was, of course, the lead guitar player for Dictators and I believe he's back there now (sadly I missed their concert in Stockholm a week ago). Adny Shernoff made most of the songs for Dictators. The rythm guitar player Scott Kempner went to Del-Lords where also Eric Ambel played guitar and sang. I got my Cellsum catalog today as well. Great! Now I'll get at least two xmas presents... By the way: the person on the cover of Box of Hammers - is he on this list? >From Stockholm (not S7HCM...) (Efter Bolles markliga uttalande vagar man knappt erkanna att man ar svensk....) __ __ / `_' / ,, |[====|||||||||||[::} Dan Lindfors, lindfors at algonet.se \__.-._\ `` From acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK Wed Oct 16 08:02:39 1996 From: acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK (Andy C) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:02:39 +0100 Subject: Off: Writing CD's Message-ID: This is way off subject but I guess some one here may have more of an idea than I. Is it possible to take a .wav or .au file and write it onto a CD in such a way that the CD will then play in a normal cd-player ? The reason ? Some of us are playing around with a method to get AC-3 onto PAL laserdisks and want to make a demo of it to pass round. Andy C From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Oct 16 08:11:20 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:11:20 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: 1997 Cellsum Catalog Message-ID: I just got my Cellsum catalog too -- Al/Deb, the check goes in the mail today! Re the David Roter CD -- I assume this is a recent release? Did Al/Deb produce it, or is it in the catalog as a favor to David Roter (who has contributed some BOC/tBS lyrics in the past)? >By the way: the person on the cover of Box of Hammers - is he on this list? Well, it ain't ME -- I thought it might be Steve Swann... ;-) Looking forward to hearing *Box of Hammers* soon, John From mordru at MAGG.NET Wed Oct 16 08:22:13 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:22:13 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: 1997 Cellsum Catalog Message-ID: >I just got my Cellsum catalog too -- Al/Deb, the check goes in the mail >today! Can someone post the ordering info for Box of Hammers? +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 16 14:13:52 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:13:52 BST Subject: HW: cover songs In-Reply-To: Christian Mumford's message of Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:19:16 +0200 Message-ID: Christian Mumford writes: > Hawkwind have done a few cover songs, but I wonder what else they have > covered live? Recently Bernhard posted that they had covered Velvet > Underground's 'Waiting for My Man' live, and they have also covered Pink > Floyd's 'Cymbaline' and Rolling Stones' 'Gimme Shelter'.... does anybody > know what else they have covered live or otherwise? They've done "All Along the Watchtower" and "City of Tiny Lights". There's also another tracks from (I think) one of the Acid Daze gigs which I suspect is a cover of something. Bernhard? > Is 'Shot Down In the > Night' an original Hawkwind song? Steve Swindells wrote this. It's on his Fresh Blood album in IMHO a much poorer version. > Christian FoFP From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 16 14:11:21 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:11:21 BST Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM In-Reply-To: SKARSOL's message of Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:37:43 +0000 Message-ID: SKARSOL writes: > Johan Edlundh wrote: > > > cannot find any "5th seconds of forever/circles" on my weird 107 - solo > > Brock demo's - there's only a "disintegration" sequence where tracklist say > > "circles" is. > > > > \\joe > > that is weird.my copy has it.its the way out version with the flange > effect on brocks voice. ????????? rj Hmmmm, Is this another different release version as with Weird 105? Maybe I could swap tape copies with Joe and find out? FoFP From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Wed Oct 16 09:29:09 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 23:29:09 +1000 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble In-Reply-To: <199610151618.MAA05735@grumpy.magg.net> Message-ID: Perhaps next time when something is forwarded from *another* source we could see some CONTEXT. The guy is entitled to his opinion, no? If he doesn't like BOC-L so what? If he thinks HW suck, so what? So does my mom. If he thinks that certain CDs are worth certain sums of money- so what? He can say whatever he wants on that list as far as I can see, and if we were given some context, maybe we would understand the issue that was being discussed, and would lay back on the old character assasination trip. He has been good to many folks, but likes to speak his mind, and is passionate about his music, so cut him a little slack. Personally speaking, he has helped all of us BOC fans in Aust. get a little bit of info/memorabilia together, and introduced us to BS as well. We are all grateful for this. Troy From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Wed Oct 16 09:33:51 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:33:51 -0400 Subject: Off: Writing CD's In-Reply-To: <01BBBB62.514BECA0@snowflake.mcs.dundee.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Andy C wrote: > This is way off subject but I guess some one here may have more of an > idea than I. Is it possible to take a .wav or .au file and write it onto a > CD in such a way that the CD will then play in a normal cd-player ? If you want the CD to play in every normal CD player, it must be mastered as according to the CD-DA "Red Book" specifications. Probably the best way to ensure this is to get yourself some CD mastering/authoring software that can produce red book CDs. Make sure the software can output in red book format. You will need the authoring software anyway to massage the .au or .wav files into the correct sample size and rate for CD-DA. (For example, if your .au/.wav file is 8-bit mono sampled at, say, 16 KHz, you'll need to get the software to resample it as 16-bit stereo @ 44.1 KHz for CD-DA.) You'll probably also want the mastering software for re-EQing the tracks so they're all uniformly level and alike. > The reason ? > Some of us are playing around with a method to get AC-3 onto PAL > laserdisks and want to make a demo of it to pass round. I dunno what AC-3 is, but laserdiscs are a whole different kettle of fish when it comes to mastering seeing as how they (at least the original beasties) encode the video as an *analogue* (not digital) signal! (I believe audio is still encoded as a digital track.) Cheers, Paul. ob3CD: Frank Zappa, _L\"ather_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Oct 16 09:39:59 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:39:59 -0400 Subject: In defense of Bolle Message-ID: Well, sort of . . . I guess he won't make too many new friends on this list. I've gotten to know the guy a bit over the past few years and ... well, he probably wouldn't make any excuses for his actions so I won't either. I'll just say that he speaks his mind and uses whatever language he sees fit - immature? maybe. Some of it is cultural I think (Bolle, originally from Sweden, seems, IMHO, "uncomfortable" with various aspects of culture in America -- I believe he's stated to me in the past that he's felt that European's are more open in expressing opinion without worrying of offending others - note: I'm ignorant in different cultures, so I don't speak this as fact, but Bolle's opinion). Anyways, Bolle's not much on "netiquette" and I imagine some would say that he exemplifies the sort of stereotype some of us have of AOL users in general -- no, I'm *NOT* trying to start a BOC-L vs AOL flamewar - I'm just saying that those of us who have dislike for AOL users, well Bolle is probably the type of person who reinforces those opinions. While I'm on that subject, however, I wish to point out some comments that *I* have received from some other non-BOC-L members -- for what it is worth, Bolle is not alone in his opinions of BOC-L. I'm going to list here a few things that others have told me of our list, or at least give what I perceive their feelings are. These are not my opinions, but what I interpret to be the feelings of people who have either heard of us, or tried BOC-L out for some period of time and then left: 1. Hawkwind content -- well, all I can say is blame it on Steve Swann! He's the guy who wanted a forum to talk about his 2 favorite bands. Bolle doesn't see these bands as related as some of us here do, and I'm sure many BOC fans don't want to have to deal with extra e-mails on the subject of Hawkwind and related bands. Now, before any of us say that to do so isn't a big deal, recall the times in the past when those of us on this list have complained internally about the mail volume being at times unbearable. Sure, the filters do help, but they aren't perfect since it requires us to remember to use them -- and perhaps some folks like Bolle aren't even aware that they are there. 2. Negativity towards BOC -- some BOC fans just don't want to be part of groups that consistently have negative things to say about the band. Sure, BOC has been somewhat frustrating to those of us waiting for new material, and sure they aren't the same band they once were, but some would prefer that we focus on the positive stuff instead of bitching about what albums/tracks/band members we don't like. 3. Tolerance of new BOC-L members -- let's face it, some of us who've been around for awhile get tired of answering the same questions over and over (yeah, that's one reason I started the FAQ - but perhaps telling a newbie to "read the FAQ" rather than answering their question is a turnoff to a newbie -- and I'm probably more guilty than anybody in doing this - not so much because I don't want to answer questions, but I want as many BOC fans a possible to check out the FAQ). We've probably become less-tolerant of people who continue to join the list and ask these questions (questions that many of us asked when we first joined the list too). I know, it's a waste of our time to answer some of this over and over (and sometimes depressing since there seems to be so little "new" to talk about in terms of BOC these days), but I do think that it wouldn't hurt to try and be a little more tolerant in this area. Related to both points 2 and 3 above, I've been told that we come off as "elitist" at times, sort of thinking we're somehow better than other BOC fans - we think we're "real" fans because we aren't afraid to say something sucks when we think it does (the very thing that some of us are now slamming Bolle for). Again, this is my interpretation of what others have told me -- I think it's overblown, but perhaps there are some grains of truth in there. Also related to this, we spend alot of time talking about what we all think BOC "should be" doing with their career -- I know that this is probably the biggest "problem" Bolle has with BOC-L (and he points it out on AOL when he sees it there as well). Bolle feels that most of us are pretty ignorant as far as the music business goes, and don't really understand alot of what we are talking about when we start in with this stuff. I've also told him that I'm probably as guilty of this on BOC-L as anybody -- I think his problem is that he gets the feeling that many of us doing this are "angry" with the band, and it puts him off not that we talk about these things, but that we have this attitude that we know enough about the business to blast BOC for not meeting our expectations in this area. Well, there may be some truth there - certainly folks like Al and Deb have helped enlighten us with the business aspects now and then. Still, we probably are fairly ignorant in alot of this - maybe not an excuse for Bolle (who may have more experience than alot of us, but I suspect is not exactly an expert either), but these are how other people may see us. 4. Al and Deb -- unfortunately, many non-BOC-L BOC fans have some ignorance of their own in this area: some of them think that having Al/Deb here somehow makes us all "negative", and see an "Al vs. BOC" type mentality. Those who have spent any time at all on BOC-L, and have gotten to know them would realize that Al/Deb are great assets to this list, and not detriments (personally, if someone is really against joining BOC-L because Al/Deb are here, well, then I think they shouldn't join BOC-L: I'd rather have Al/Deb here). It's too bad that while Al has put most of the past behind him as far as his dealings with BOC, some BOC fans can't seem to do the same. This is one area where I don't think we can do alot about - while we can try to overcome some of our own perceived stupidity, we can't correct the stupidity of others who would not want to join BOC-L for this reason. And, if Al/Deb decide to unsubscribe, many of us will probably send them numerous annoying e-mails incessantly until they return. Again, I'm not trying really defend Bolle, and many of the points I raised are not necessarily my own opinion, but how I interpret some people (Bolle included) see us. In some cases, you may disagree, and in some cases, we might feel that such opinions don't count. But, since Bolle's comments caused a few responses here (and rightfully so), I thought I'd give you this information for your consideration. Maybe the guy's got a point, maybe not. Maybe Bolle is not on your Christmas card list now, maybe not. John ObCD: Rush *Test for Echo* (despite Martin's review, I still like it) From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Oct 16 09:51:54 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:51:54 -0400 Subject: BRAIN: 1997 Cellsum Catalog Message-ID: >Can someone post the ordering info for Box of Hammers? BoH is $11 (plus $3 for shipping), as is copies of *Eponymous*, *Trepanation*, or David Roter's *Find Something Beautiful*. T-shirts with the BoH cover are available in black or white for $11 (plus $3 shipping per item). A BoH baseball cap (has a picture of a hammer on the front - I assume the cap is black) is available for $19 (plus that $3 shipping again), and also packages of 5 temporary tattoos of the *Trepanation* cover for $5 (no additional shipping cost for this one!). Make checks payable to Albert Bouchard. All foreign fans please include International Money Order (American Dollars) and additional air mail postage of $2 per item - Japan, China, New Zealand, and Australia add $1 additional postage (total of $3 per item additional). Send to: Albert Bouchard Box 1070, Fort George Station New York, NY 10040-9998 Allow 6-8 weeks for delivery -- orders must be postmarked by Nov. 1st for Xmas delivery. Supplies are limited - don't delay! John From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed Oct 16 10:04:32 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:04:32 +0800 Subject: HW: cover songs Message-ID: M Holmes wrote: > > Christian Mumford writes: > > > Hawkwind have done a few cover songs, but I wonder what else they have > > covered live? Recently Bernhard posted that they had covered Velvet > > Underground's 'Waiting for My Man' live, and they have also covered Pink > > Floyd's 'Cymbaline' and Rolling Stones' 'Gimme Shelter'.... does anybody > > know what else they have covered live or otherwise? > > They've done "All Along the Watchtower" and "City of Tiny Lights". > There's also another tracks from (I think) one of the Acid Daze gigs > which I suspect is a cover of something. Bernhard? > > > Is 'Shot Down In the > > Night' an original Hawkwind song? > > Steve Swindells wrote this. It's on his Fresh Blood album in IMHO a much > poorer version. > > > Christian > > FoFP First of all, I know they aren't really HW covers, but as they appear on HW albums, what about Dave Brock's early blues recordings? Would you also classify "Watching the Grass Grow," "Ejection," & "The Right Stuff" as covers? Also, I think the HW version of "Shot Down in the Night" was released first. Though I think Steve Swindell's album came out a very few months later, therefore it may have been recorded first. It's hard to classify ongs that have been written by members as covers. By the way, has anyone ever seen (or have a copy) of the film clip of "Bitter & Twisted?" It features the line up from Steve's album (Huw, Simon, etc.) William From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Wed Oct 16 10:03:17 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 10:03:17 -0400 Subject: In defense of Bolle In-Reply-To: <199610161339.JAA05013@mbunix.mitre.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, John A Swartz wrote: > Related to both points 2 and 3 above, I've been told that we come off > as "elitist" at times, sort of thinking we're somehow better than other > BOC fans - we think we're "real" fans because we aren't afraid to say > something sucks when we think it does (the very thing that some of us > are now slamming Bolle for). Again, this is my interpretation of what > others have told me -- I think it's overblown, but perhaps there are > some grains of truth in there. I don't recall anyone slamming Bolle for the beliefs he holds. I just think everybody was taken aback by the overly strident tone he adopted. It was not conduct becoming of a gentleman, IMHO. :-) Bolle may have a mountain of *knowledge* on BOC (e.g. gig lists, who farted in which recording studio during which album, etc.), but, from past experience (e.g. his musings on what he considers to be the best BOC tracks), his BOC *opinions* appear to be at least 90 degrees out of phase with my own, so when he starts in, I normally file them in /dev/null. That doesn't make him a bad guy, in my book, but it doesn't make him an almighty authority on the subject, either (as he often comes off sounding like). As a famous fictional groupie once said, "knowledge is not wisdom." Cheers, Paul. PS: If I buy two copies of the _Live 1976_ laserdisc, does that make me twice the fan that Bolle is?? ;-) ob3CD: Frank Zappa, _L\"ather_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From swann at MINDVOX.COM Wed Oct 16 10:32:05 1996 From: swann at MINDVOX.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 10:32:05 -0400 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble In-Reply-To: <199610160347.XAA09278@grumpy.magg.net> from "Andrew A. Apold" at Oct 15, 96 11:47:40 pm Message-ID: Andrew A. Apold writes: > > >>This was from Bolle in a recent message on alt.music.blueoystercult: > >> > >>>Further More: BOC L Sucks! > > > >Don't forget we're "anti-BOC" as well! :) > > > >These messages probably *will* be forwarded back to Bolle as evidence of our > >"anti-BOC" proclivities, by the way, so I might as well be hung for a sheep as > >a lamb, and add that _Cult Classic_ was a massive letdown and definitely > >wasn't worth the asking price. > > > >- Andy (tightwad heretic and proud of it) > > Yes, but through it all, remember it's all Steve Swann's fault... Now wait just a cotton-pickin' minute here! I take the heat for an awful lot of stuff around this list: everything from solar eclipses to Craig's age. Well, you can blame me for a lot of things - some of them might even be true. ;-) But I did *not* cause Bolle, and let that be an end to it! Steve_!_? swann at panix.com From swann at MINDVOX.COM Wed Oct 16 10:43:08 1996 From: swann at MINDVOX.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 10:43:08 -0400 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble In-Reply-To: from "Troy Harris" at Oct 16, 96 11:29:09 pm Message-ID: Troy Harris writes: > > Perhaps next time when something is forwarded from *another* source we > could see some CONTEXT. The guy is entitled to his opinion, no? If he > doesn't like BOC-L so what? If he thinks HW suck, so what? So does my > mom. If he thinks that certain CDs are worth certain sums of money- so > what? So, what you're saying is, Bolle is entitled to say whatever he wants he wants about anything, but we aren't? Help me out here, I'm having a little trouble following this line of reasoning. > He can say whatever he wants on that list as far as I can see, and if > we were given some context, maybe we would understand the issue that was > being discussed, and would lay back on the old character assasination > trip. He has been good to many folks, but likes to speak his mind, and > is passionate about his music, so cut him a little slack. Well, anybody's who's so free with his opinions must be used to what people think of him by now. As for context, it's on alt.music.blueoystercult. Anybody can fire up a newsreader and see the whole post, in all its halfwit glory. I did, and I was mightily underwhelmed by the man's intellect. > Personally speaking, he has helped all of us BOC fans in Aust. get a > little bit of info/memorabilia together, and introduced us to BS as > well. We are all grateful for this. I'd be a lot more grateful if he would stop using other lists and newsgroups as forums for launching his imbecilic attacks on this list and its readers. He's been doing this for a long time, and I'm out of patience with him. Steve swann at panix.com From egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US Wed Oct 16 10:36:15 1996 From: egallagh at HARPER.CC.IL.US (Ed Gallagher) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:36:15 -0500 Subject: In defense of Bolle In-Reply-To: from "Paul Mather" at Oct 16, 96 10:03:17 am Message-ID: > like). As a famous fictional groupie once said, "knowledge is not wisdom." Right On! (Oops, my seventies are showing!) One of my favorite expressions has always been: Never confuse Knowledge, Intelligence, and Wisdom. -- "Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new." - Albert Einstein Edward Gallagher Internet egallagh at harper.cc.il.us Advanced Technology Specialist William Rainey Harper College Information Systems/User Service Pager (708) 962-4886 1200 W. Algonquin Rd. FAX (847) 925-6036 Palatine, IL 60067 Old Fashion Way (847) 925-6982 From hdboc at 3-CITIES.COM Wed Oct 16 10:49:45 1996 From: hdboc at 3-CITIES.COM (Jack W. Heffling) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 07:49:45 -0700 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: Troy Harris wrote: > > Perhaps next time when something is forwarded from *another* source we > could see some CONTEXT. The guy is entitled to his opinion, no? If he > doesn't like BOC-L so what? If he thinks HW suck, so what? So does my > mom. If he thinks that certain CDs are worth certain sums of money- so > what? > He can say whatever he wants on that list as far as I can see, and if > we were given some context, maybe we would understand the issue that was > being discussed, and would lay back on the old character assasination > trip. He has been good to many folks, but likes to speak his mind, and > is passionate about his music, so cut him a little slack. > Personally speaking, he has helped all of us BOC fans in Aust. get a > little bit of info/memorabilia together, and introduced us to BS as > well. We are all grateful for this. > > Troy Well spoken Troy. If I worried about all the things Bolle said that irritated me, I would be pissed off all the time. He speaks his mind and let the chips land where they may. And BOC-L need not feel alone. My suggestion to anyone who would like to engage in a war of words with Bolle, send him an email. And you better be well armed:) In my opinion, transcribing quotes from another area to bring about a negative reaction is a little uncalled for. However, whatever!! Jack http://j-and-a.com/boc.html P.S. Did you receive the video Troy? From shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM Wed Oct 16 16:03:17 1996 From: shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM (shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:03:17 BST Subject: HW: cover songs Message-ID: >From Bernad's very excellent tape list, sorted by song's 1st appearance by Frank Weil. I'm not so sure if some of these are covers, or HW songs I'm unfamiliar with. in the mood [1982.10.24, BRADFORD, ST. GEORGES HALL] (Glenn Miller jazz classic ? ) leader of the pack [1984.11.24, ST. ALBANS, CITY HALL] (Ronnettes ?) rock 'n roll [1985.02.10, MANCHESTER, INTERNATIONAL] (Led Zep - surely not ?) wild thing [1985.02.10, MANCHESTER, INTERNATIONAL] (Troggs ?) ok I'm not sure if _any_ really are covers, someone help me out on this one !! Neil. From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Oct 16 16:21:00 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:21:00 GMT+0100 Subject: BRAIN: 1997 Cellsum Catalog Message-ID: --On ons 16 okt 1996 08.11 "John A Swartz" wrote: > I just got my Cellsum catalog too -- Al/Deb, the check goes in the mail > today! Anticipating a rush of orders from the UK, if not the rest of Europe, I would mention that depending on how anxious people are to order the CD that I might be able to act as a middleman. I'll be in the States around Yule, and could order CDs to my parents' house and then hand carry them back to Britain with me and redistribute from there. That's what I'll have to do with mine anyway (I shouldn't spend the money on it, but will :) but at least I can knock off the international postage etc. by waiting that long. That's probably worth a pint to me :) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Oct 16 16:23:03 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:23:03 GMT+0100 Subject: HW: cover songs Message-ID: --On ons 16 okt 1996 16.03 wrote: > I'm not so sure if some of these are covers, or HW songs I'm unfamiliar with. > rock 'n roll [1985.02.10, MANCHESTER, INTERNATIONAL] (Led Zep - surely not ?) Was this one of the tours with Lemmy? Mot?rhead's song "Rock 'n' Roll" must have been done around that time ... Cheers, Carl From stayer at PI.NET Tue Oct 15 21:27:24 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:27:24 PDT Subject: OFF: Jane? Message-ID: >Is this a 'space-rock' band? They are mentioned on the DarXtar pages and >in the HW: Caution :) post awhile back..... or did I misunderstand >something? German space rock / kraut rock. If you like Eloy, Nektar, Grobschnitt, Hawkwind, you should at least listen to a couple of albums. I am not too familiar with them but there's 'Air Fire Water Earth' (not sure about the sequence, though) and a live album which seems to be pretty good. I heard about a reunion, but I am not sure. Jerry From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Wed Oct 16 11:46:15 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 01:46:15 +1000 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble In-Reply-To: <19961016144308.18055.qmail@mindvox.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Stephen Swann wrote: > Troy Harris writes: > > > > Perhaps next time when something is forwarded from *another* source we > > could see some CONTEXT. The guy is entitled to his opinion, no? If he > > doesn't like BOC-L so what? If he thinks HW suck, so what? So does my > > mom. If he thinks that certain CDs are worth certain sums of money- so > > what? > > So, what you're saying is, Bolle is entitled to say whatever he wants > he wants about anything, but we aren't? Help me out here, I'm having > a little trouble following this line of reasoning. No I did not say that. No wonder you can't follow the reasoning, because you are saying something that is not in the text. You are being eisegetical, extrapolating meanings not intended. :). I said, simply put, he is entitled to his opinion- in his forum. No one asked to see his opinion on *this* forum, did they? So, regarding his opinions, let him have them. Have yours too. Let's just all make sure we are not just bickering aimlessly over stuff that doesn't mean much anyway. The key word of this passage is "so what?". At the end of the day- it makes no difference what Bolle or whoever thinks about this list, as long as those who enjoy it continue to do so. > > Well, anybody's who's so free with his opinions must be used to what > people think of him by now. ....AND I don't think he cares. > > As for context, it's on alt.music.blueoystercult. Anybody can fire up > a newsreader and see the whole post, in all its halfwit glory. I did, > and I was mightily underwhelmed by the man's intellect. Not everyone has access to this. Troy From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Wed Oct 16 11:55:49 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 01:55:49 +1000 Subject: OFF: Jane? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Jerry wrote: > >Is this a 'space-rock' band? They are mentioned on the DarXtar pages and > >in the HW: Caution :) post awhile back..... or did I misunderstand > >something? > > German space rock / kraut rock. If you like Eloy, Nektar, Grobschnitt, > Hawkwind, you should at least listen to a couple of albums. I am not too > familiar with them but there's 'Air Fire Water Earth' (not sure about the > sequence, though) and a live album which seems to be pretty good. I heard > about a reunion, but I am not sure. > > Jerry > I had one album ages ago, but it got stolen. I would describe them a lot like the bands mentioned, with a large slab of Pink Floyd thrown in. Troy From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Oct 16 11:57:42 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:57:42 -0400 Subject: Bolle Message-ID: Just a few more reactions to a few comments here: >I don't recall anyone slamming Bolle for the beliefs he holds. I'm referring to some of the recent reaction on BOC-L to his comment. "Slamming" might not have been the best choice of words, but my point was that some of us are rightfully put off by Bolle's comment ("BOC-L sucks"), and my observation was that there is a perception that BOC-L is negative - to which some on this list in the past have stated that they aren't afraid to say something sucks (in reference to BOC albums, songs, or even members) if that's what they feel. Well, Bolle has merely done the same. >his BOC *opinions* appear to be at least 90 degrees out of phase with my own, so when he starts in, I normally file them in /dev/null. Alot of his opinions differ from my own as well -- but don't necessarily file them in /dev/null. They may be different, but they aren't worthless. His method of expression may put some off, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't examine the opinions because they are out of phase with our own. Perhaps not to be taken as gospel, but valid nonetheless (as are all of ours). >So, what you're saying is, Bolle is entitled to say whatever he wants he wants about anything, but we aren't? I don't think that was what was meant. If Bolle came *onto this list* and stated "you all suck", I'd be much more offended than him stating his opinion of us on another group. I think we are all entitled to our opinions. Those of you who wish to voice your displeasure over his comments are IMHO certainly welcome to do so. >Well, anybody's who's so free with his opinions must be used to what people think of him by now. Yep, I believe he is -- and my guess is that he doesn't lose too much sleep at night worrying about what anyone thinks of him. >I'd be a lot more grateful if he would stop using other lists and newsgroups as forums for launching his imbecilic attacks on this list and its readers. He's been doing this for a long time, and I'm out of patience with him. You've lost me on this one. I do recall a previous post by Bolle that was not directed specifically at BOC-L, but where he did mention alot of naive thinking (something I referred to in my last post), but other than that, I don't know what he has done that you refer to. He once made a comment to me which I posted here (which, as someone later pointed out to me, was wrong because I mis-represented him) that he was "against other internets" - but he was referring to using other forums than what he could get from AOL, and was meant as a reflection of his (at the time) fairly low-tech computer connection, and not as a direct slam against BOC-L or any other list. My personal apologies if you were referring to this comment which I posted awhile back as I twisted his meaning. Not that that changes his more recent comment. If you have other examples of these attacks that you referred to, I'd be interested in knowing of them. >If I worried about all the things Bolle said that irritated me, I would be pissed off all the time. He speaks his mind and let the chips land where they may. And BOC-L need not feel alone. Yep, I've talked with him on a few subjects other than BOC (although not too many), and he'll let you have his opinion. But, it's just his opinion. Despite the fact that I think he's a cool person (despite the recent comment) and that he has done most BOC fans quite a service with the fanclub (and me personally with the FAQ), his opinions are just that - opinions. Feel free to disagree with him as you will. My apologies if by speaking highly of him in the past, I led anyone to believe he is the penultimate authority when it comes to public opinion. >In my opinion, transcribing quotes from another area to bring about a negative reaction is a little uncalled for. However, whatever!! I have mixed feelings about this. While I don't in general agree with trying to stir up trouble, I think that if someone is posting to a public forum about us, we have a right to know about it, and should feel free to respond. I don't have access to alt.music.blueoystercult, so I unfortunately will miss most of any responses to his comment there. If there are any of note, I would be grateful if someone could post them here. John From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Wed Oct 16 11:56:48 1996 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (M R Godwin) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:56:48 +0100 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Troy Harris wrote: > You are being > eisegetical, extrapolating meanings not intended. :). Does Sandy Pearlman know about this word? Time it got used in a song lyric, I think. Now what rhymes with eisegetical? - Mike Godwin From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Wed Oct 16 12:06:28 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 02:06:28 +1000 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, M R Godwin wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Troy Harris wrote: > > > You are being > > eisegetical, extrapolating meanings not intended. :). > > Does Sandy Pearlman know about this word? Time it got used in a song > lyric, I think. > > Now what rhymes with eisegetical? How about exegetical? (The exact opposite). So what is the "biggest word in a BOC song"? Troy From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 16 17:11:19 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:11:19 BST Subject: HW: cover songs In-Reply-To: shillada@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com's message of Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:03:17 BST Message-ID: shillada at gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com writes: > I'm not so sure if some of these are covers, or HW songs I'm unfamiliar with. > > in the mood [1982.10.24, BRADFORD, ST. GEORGES HALL] (Glenn Miller > jazz classic ? ) Yep, I remember finding that on the tape. My mother, a Glenn Miller fan, was somewhat gobsmacked at Hawkwind ("that awful din") covering Glenn Miller. I'm fairly sure I once hear Nik's band doing "American Patrol" too. > Neil. FoFP From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Wed Oct 16 12:23:00 1996 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:23:00 +0100 Subject: In defense of Bolle In-Reply-To: John A Swartz's mail of Wed, 16 Oct 96 09:39 -0400 Message-ID: > Sure, the filters do help, but they aren't perfect > since it requires us to remember to use them -- and perhaps some folks > like Bolle aren't even aware that they are there. Perhaps it's worth someone mentioning them on alt.music.blueoystercult? Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. Tel: +44 131 668 1564 From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Wed Oct 16 12:28:12 1996 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (M R Godwin) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:28:12 +0100 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Oct 1996 tlh at rubens.its.unimelb.edu.au wrote: > So what is the "biggest word in a BOC song"? Extra-terrestrial (in the title of E.T.I.)? But I don't think they actually say the word... - Mike Godwin From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Wed Oct 16 13:38:26 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:38:26 +0100 Subject: HW: cover songs - LIST Message-ID: Hi folks Here is a very 1st attempt to create a cover songs list (to be completed, corrected and continued...) - all along the watchtower, 05.05.1986 - wild thing, 10.02.1985 - make what you can (?), 13.02.1972 - oh lord, 22.06.1984 - cimbaline - waiting for my man, 11.03.1977 - in the mood, 24.10.1982 - leader of the pack, 24.11.1984 Thats all I could find Mike: No covers during the ACID DAZE gigs in 1987 cheers Bernhard From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Wed Oct 16 11:58:53 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:58:53 -0400 Subject: HW: cover songs Message-ID: CHOMP! Carl says this... BTW, having grown tired of receiving endless number of fancy-format messages I couldn't read I've decided to become part of the problem and get a fancy-email program. Hope this is all readable :) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ ...all except that "Lever" stuff!! ;-) Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2366 bytes Desc: not available URL: From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Wed Oct 16 12:33:40 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 12:33:40 -0400 Subject: HW: cover songs Message-ID: CHOMP! 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Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2366 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 16 17:52:04 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:52:04 BST Subject: HW: cover songs - LIST In-Reply-To: Bernhard Pospiech's message of Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:38:26 +0100 Message-ID: Bernhard Pospiech writes: > Hi folks > > Here is a very 1st attempt to create a cover songs list > (to be completed, corrected and continued...) > > - all along the watchtower, 05.05.1986 > - wild thing, 10.02.1985 > - make what you can (?), 13.02.1972 > - oh lord, 22.06.1984 > - cimbaline > - waiting for my man, 11.03.1977 > - in the mood, 24.10.1982 > - leader of the pack, 24.11.1984 > > Thats all I could find > > Mike: No covers during the ACID DAZE gigs in 1987 Maybe it was the Agents of Chaos but there's definitely a "City of Tiny Lights" cover somewhere. > cheers > Bernhard Cheers FoFP From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Oct 16 04:45:31 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:45:31 +0100 Subject: OFF - ObCD -Cope In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Andrew Gilham writes >- Andy (tightwad heretic and proud of it) > >ObCD: Julian Cope - _Interpreter_ I was going to Ob this in my next post, surprise, surprise! What a total classic esp. "S.P.A.C.E.R.O.C.K. With Me "! -- Jon Browne From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Wed Oct 16 13:49:16 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:49:16 -0400 Subject: HW: cover songs In-Reply-To: <9610161711.aa03112@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> Message-ID: Mike Holmes writes: > shillada at gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com writes: > > > I'm not so sure if some of these are covers, or HW songs I'm unfamiliar with. > > > in the mood [1982.10.24, BRADFORD, ST. GEORGES HALL] (Glenn Miller > > jazz classic ? ) > > Yep, I remember finding that on the tape. My mother, a Glenn Miller fan, > was somewhat gobsmacked at Hawkwind ("that awful din") covering Glenn > Miller. > > I'm fairly sure I once hear Nik's band doing "American Patrol" too. There is, of course, "In the Mood (nude)" on the Inner City Unit album _Maximum Effect_. It starts of pretty normal and then heads off into a high-speed gonzoid version. Great stuff. Maybe Nik was introducing a bit of ICU into the Hawkwind repertoire (a la "Watching the Grass Grow"). Is the cover on the tape fairly straightforward, or does it really pick up speed as it goes on? Cheers, Paul. ob3CD: Frank Zappa, _L\"ather_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Wed Oct 16 14:54:33 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 19:54:33 +0100 Subject: HW: cover songs - LIST Message-ID: >> Mike: No covers during the ACID DAZE gigs in 1987 > >Maybe it was the Agents of Chaos but there's definitely a "City of Tiny >Lights" cover somewhere. CITY OF TINY LIGHTS was played on 14.11.1988 cu Bernhard From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Wed Oct 16 13:56:30 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 13:56:30 -0400 Subject: BOC: In defense of Bolle In-Reply-To: <199610161623.RAA09389@abel.ed.harlequin.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Dave Berry wrote: > > Sure, the filters do help, but they aren't perfect > > since it requires us to remember to use them -- and perhaps some folks > > like Bolle aren't even aware that they are there. > > Perhaps it's worth someone mentioning them on alt.music.blueoystercult? Well, anyone who actually subscribes to BOC-L is sent a message describing how the list operates, including a bit about the filters. I'm sure Bolle would only speak in such an authoritative fashion from direct personal experience, so no doubt he is aware of them. :-) I think the big problem about the filters is getting people to use them. Cheers, Paul. e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From swann at MINDVOX.COM Wed Oct 16 14:44:34 1996 From: swann at MINDVOX.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:44:34 -0400 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble In-Reply-To: from "Troy Harris" at Oct 17, 96 01:46:15 am Message-ID: Troy Harris writes: > > On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Stephen Swann wrote: > > > Troy Harris writes: > > > > > > Perhaps next time when something is forwarded from *another* source we > > > could see some CONTEXT. The guy is entitled to his opinion, no? If he > > > doesn't like BOC-L so what? If he thinks HW suck, so what? So does my > > > mom. If he thinks that certain CDs are worth certain sums of money- so > > > what? > > > > So, what you're saying is, Bolle is entitled to say whatever he wants > > he wants about anything, but we aren't? Help me out here, I'm having > > a little trouble following this line of reasoning. > > No I did not say that. No wonder you can't follow the reasoning, > because you are saying something that is not in the text. You are being > eisegetical, extrapolating meanings not intended. :). I said, simply > put, he is entitled to his opinion- in his forum. No one asked to see > his opinion on *this* forum, did they? So, regarding his opinions, let > him have them. Have yours too. Let's just all make sure we are not > just bickering aimlessly over stuff that doesn't mean much anyway. > The key word of this passage is "so what?". At the end of the day- it > makes no difference what Bolle or whoever thinks about this list, as long > as those who enjoy it continue to do so. Ah... now I see the point you were making. Let me explain: his opinions (which he is certainly entitled to, just as we are entitled to our opinions of him) become a matter of our interest when he talks publically about us. And any Usenet newsgroup is a public platform: the most public platform that has ever existed, as a matter of fact. And while it's true that Bolle's opinion shouldn't matter that much to me, I take it kind of personally, when the head of the Blue Oyster Cult fan club repeatedly and publically disparages this list. This list, and many of its subscribers, were here long before "online fandom" became so hip as to attract even the barely literate. Finding out that Bolle is making public statements to the effect that this list "sux" is a little much for THIS veteran of the the internet wars, thankyouverymuch. > > Well, anybody's who's so free with his opinions must be used to what > > people think of him by now. > > ....AND I don't think he cares. Or understands, anyway. Hell, he's not even *on* this freaking list, but he just *knows* that it "sux" (I loved the irony of his following that up by saying that ignorance "sux"). > > As for context, it's on alt.music.blueoystercult. Anybody can fire up > > a newsreader and see the whole post, in all its halfwit glory. I did, > > and I was mightily underwhelmed by the man's intellect. > > Not everyone has access to this. Anybody who doesn't get it (and cares) should take it up with their internet provider. Certainly it's available to anyone who wants it. Steve swann at panix.com From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Wed Oct 16 16:26:46 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 15:26:46 -0500 Subject: BRAIN: 1997 Cellsum Catalog Message-ID: On 15-OCT-1996 23:29:37.5 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >I dimly remember Jack Rigg from _Imaginos_ but can't be sure. (I know >he lurks somewhere in the BOC/Bouchard musical past.) And isn't Ross >the Boss the bass player for Manowar?? WAS the guitarist for Manowar, 'till '88. Chuck `[1;32;46mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU Wed Oct 16 14:29:43 1996 From: gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU (Guido Vacano) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 14:29:43 -0400 Subject: In defense of Bolle In-Reply-To: from "Paul Mather" at Oct 16, 96 10:03:17 am Message-ID: Paul sez-- > > On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, John A Swartz wrote: > > > Related to both points 2 and 3 above, I've been told that we come off > > as "elitist" at times, sort of thinking we're somehow better than other > > BOC fans - we think we're "real" fans because we aren't afraid to say > > something sucks when we think it does (the very thing that some of us > > are now slamming Bolle for). Again, this is my interpretation of what > > others have told me -- I think it's overblown, but perhaps there are > > some grains of truth in there. Don't these people have anything better to do? I categorize BOC, Hawkwind, and BOC-L under the heading "fun". I don't lose sleep over any of them. > I don't recall anyone slamming Bolle for the beliefs he holds. I just > think everybody was taken aback by the overly strident tone he adopted. > It was not conduct becoming of a gentleman, IMHO. :-) Agreed. John Schwartz seems to be saying that we can't be too hard on Bolle for being an asshole since he's built that way. I'm not sure I buy that argument. > > Bolle may have a mountain of *knowledge* on BOC (e.g. gig lists, who > farted in which recording studio during which album, etc.), but, from past > experience (e.g. his musings on what he considers to be the best BOC > tracks), his BOC *opinions* appear to be at least 90 degrees out of phase > with my own, so when he starts in, I normally file them in /dev/null. > That doesn't make him a bad guy, in my book, but it doesn't make him an > almighty authority on the subject, either (as he often comes off sounding > like). As a famous fictional groupie once said, "knowledge is not wisdom." What I don't understand is why people take all of this so seriously. Bolle has been written of in reverential (even "hushed") tones on BOC-L, just because he's a rabid BOC fan. IMHO, this Bolle business is a bit silly. If there's a list for people who don't give a rat's ass what Bolle thinks about ANYTHING, please place my name at the top. > ob3CD: Frank Zappa, _L\"ather_ Good 'un, innit? :-) Guido -- If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse From scruto19 at POTSDAM.EDU Wed Oct 16 16:20:28 1996 From: scruto19 at POTSDAM.EDU (Jason "Yes, my last name is Scruton" Scruton) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 20:20:28 -0000 Subject: In de fence of Bolle and the yard of BOC-L, there are squids Message-ID: The thoughts following are produced by the myriad things which came before this very Electronic mail message: >Don't these people have anything better to do? I categorize BOC, >Hawkwind, and BOC-L under the heading "fun". I don't lose sleep over any >of them. Too right. We wouldn't even be subscribing to this hulking email list if it weren't for the fact that at one time each and every one of us had enthusiasm and glee about the tunes produced by the bands BOCL takes on as topics of convo. however, The only way I would lose sleep over them is in travelling to or attending a performance of either Hawkwind or BOC (in no particular order). >What I don't understand is why people take all of this so seriously. It's a side effect of banding together with people who have the relatively same interest. Oneupsmanship about how much you dig something comapred to another person is seen in playgrounds and office water fountains the world over. I know that now and again I tend to feel "holier than thou (compared to everyone no on BOCL)" about the music of the BOC in whatever philosophic,phantasmorgic wanna-be-rock-intellectual way that tickles my fancy at the time. That's why it's good to have people who will disagree. Not only can you disagree about their spceific opinions, but you also get to rethink your own(makin' it better or just tossing it away). isnt that just swell? If anything, I think the now infamous Bolle posting proved to be a nice shaking up and cobweb removing incident in the continuum of the BOCL. After all, what good is an institution of discourse and illumination if it can't take a lil' shaking now and then? Speaking of shaking, I think the MC5's live "shakin' street" off of the disc Teen Age Lust would hit the spot right about now... Where you got to get down, Jason From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Oct 16 16:27:46 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:27:46 -0400 Subject: In defense of Bolle Message-ID: > > Related to both points 2 and 3 above, I've been told that we come off > > as "elitist" at times, sort of thinking we're somehow better than other > > BOC fans - we think we're "real" fans because we aren't afraid to say > > something sucks when we think it does (the very thing that some of us > > are now slamming Bolle for). Again, this is my interpretation of what > > others have told me -- I think it's overblown, but perhaps there are > > some grains of truth in there. >Don't these people have anything better to do? I categorize BOC, Hawkwind, and BOC-L under the heading "fun". I don't lose sleep over any of them. Yeah, I agree with you. But, I'm just passing info that I've gleaned from some internet discussion I've had with some folks. I personally won't lose any sleep over it either. I don't know if anyone on this list cares how others perceive us or not. Although I think it would be cool if more BOC fans joined this list (although for reasons I previously cited, I'm not sure all listmembers would necessarily agree), and if that is desirable, well some comments I've gotten would suggest that we might have an image problem. >Agreed. John Schwartz seems to be saying that we can't be too hard on Bolle for being an asshole since he's built that way. I'm not sure I buy that argument. Nope (BTW, that's "Swartz" - at one point I was thinking of changing my middle-name to "no ch" ;-) ). You can be as hard as you want on the guy. But, speaking as someone who has conversed quite a bit with the guy, I felt that one might take his comments with a bit of the proverbial grain of salt if one knew him a bit better than just reading his occassional rantings on the net. Personally, I don't agree with him on this one, and anyone who knows me knows that his style of posting on the net is probably close to opposite of mine (recall I've been accused in the past of being a boot-licker). Like I said in my first post, I'm not really trying to defend the guy ("In defense of Bolle" was therefore a bad title for the post, I agree), just try to put his voice in some sort of context -- and point out to those who care that there are others who feel similarly. >What I don't understand is why people take all of this so seriously. Bolle has been written of in reverential (even "hushed") tones on BOC-L, just because he's a rabid BOC fan. Again, if my statements have led some to believe that Bolle should be revered, then I apologize. I owe a debt of gratitude to the guy for all the help he gave me on the FAQ, and all the BOC info I've gotten from him (not to mention some great live tapes). I respect his wealth of information on the past and present of BOC -- I never meant to imply that his opinions are gospel. >If there's a list for people who don't give a rat's ass what Bolle thinks about ANYTHING, please place my name at the top. Well, one can choose to accept or reject *anyone's* opinions -- however I would argue that if we didn't have any opinions on this list, it would be pretty boring. I'm not talking necessarily about what sucks or who sucks - I'm talking about (hopefully positive) opinions of various things like songs and albums, and (hopefully rational) discussion of those opinions among listmembers. I agree that Bolle's post does neither of those, but I think it's a bit extreme to say that opinions don't matter. John From jguizar at EPIX.NET Wed Oct 16 16:47:07 1996 From: jguizar at EPIX.NET (Jerry Guizar) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:47:07 -0400 Subject: Off: Writing CD's In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In , on 10/16/96 at 09:33 AM, Paul Mather said: >On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Andy C wrote: >> This is way off subject but I guess some one here may have more of an >> idea than I. Is it possible to take a .wav or .au file and write it onto a >> CD in such a way that the CD will then play in a normal cd-player ? >If you want the CD to play in every normal CD player, it must be mastered >as according to the CD-DA "Red Book" specifications. Probably the best >way to ensure this is to get yourself some CD mastering/authoring >software that can produce red book CDs. Make sure the software can >output in red book format. Ohhh, that must be my problem. I've been using the "Blue Book" and the music always sounds the same - spacey :) How's the price on this software now? The last time I checked, I seem to remember it being somewhere around a grand. Jerry ----------------------------------------------------------- jguizar at epix.net ----------------------------------------------------------- From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Wed Oct 16 16:58:28 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:58:28 +0200 Subject: HW: Weird Disintegration Message-ID: >> > cannot find any "5th seconds of forever/circles" on my weird 107 - solo >> > Brock demo's - there's only a "disintegration" sequence where tracklist say >> > "circles" is. >> > >> > \\joe >> >> that is weird.my copy has it.its the way out version with the flange >> effect on brocks voice. ????????? rj > >Hmmmm, Is this another different release version as with Weird 105? played Weird 107 a few times at the same time with my Sonic Attack vinyl, and the results of my investigation is just that I'm not the man to tell you if it's two different versions. no doubt it's two different mixes - the Uriah Heep soundalike backing vocals (aaaaah - aaaaah...) isn't there, the distorted synths is much more "raw", etc etc... but it might be the same original material as what has been treated seriously in the RCA studios. >Maybe I could swap tape copies with Joe and find out? Maybe... :0) - just not tonight... >FoFP cheers - \\joe btw 1) in which state is the Ceta Orionis trade? btw 2) got a letter from scotland today, it goes like this :0( thanx anyway for the tip, Jill! -------------------------- Dear Joe, I'm sorry to inform you that I've already sold the GLASTONBURY TRIPLE... and just to rub salt into the wound I received it sealed and played 2 sides only. So it was perfect... -------------------------- From cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Wed Oct 16 18:46:29 1996 From: cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:46:29 EST Subject: HW: Love is Space NTSC rumor Message-ID: I heard a rumor that the NTSC version (North American) of the "Love in Space" vid was released this week from Visionary. I am hoping to order my copy perhaps as early as next week. The source is *usually* reliable. I also noted that a number of advertisers in the latest Goldmine are offering copies of the new SA and CYM for $20-30 each. I assume that these are imports. USA customers remember that these are available domestically for reasonable $12-15 prices! Don't spend too much money for an identical CD... Captain Cloud cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com ObBolleReference: "Don't Be a Sheep - Baa Baa Baa Baa" ;-) From cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Wed Oct 16 18:54:44 1996 From: cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:54:44 EST Subject: OFF: displaying picture discs Message-ID: I just tracked down a copy of the last HW picture disc for my collection (12" only, no little guys). I am now trying to determine the best way to display these critters on my wall. Does anyone have any recommendations on what to use for a display frame? I'll evaluate any reasonably priced products that someone is willing to vouch for, but I'm also interested in any creative methods (particularly if they are cheap :-). Or _is_ there anybody out there hanging this kind of stuff on their walls? My current Kollection contains 8 LP picture discs: - Acid Daze 1, 2, 3 - 3 from Official LogBook (Stonehenge, CotBS, O&I) - Zones - first album (this is the one I just ordered) Any 12-inchers missing from this list? Captain Cloud cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Wed Oct 16 17:49:55 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:49:55 UT Subject: In de fence of Bolle and the yard of BOC-L, there are squids Message-ID: Jason said >It's a side effect of banding together with people who have the relatively >same interest. Oneupsmanship about how much you dig something >comapred to >another person is seen in playgrounds and office water fountains the world >over. The old "true fan" thing, eh? Well, I'm happy for Bolle to _lurve_ Blue Oyster Cult more than I do! For no particular reason, I'm reminded of the Newcastle United fan who had a picture of Andy Cole tattooed on his arm - about a week before he was transferred to Manchester United... the follies of being a "true believer", I guess. - Andy From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Wed Oct 16 17:55:27 1996 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:55:27 -0500 Subject: HW: cover songs - LIST In-Reply-To: Bernhard Pospiech "HW: cover songs - LIST" (Oct 16, 6:38pm) Message-ID: Bernhard Pospiech wrote: > Here is a very 1st attempt to create a cover songs list > (to be completed, corrected and continued...) > > - all along the watchtower, 05.05.1986 > - wild thing, 10.02.1985 > - make what you can (?), 13.02.1972 > - oh lord, 22.06.1984 > - cimbaline > - waiting for my man, 11.03.1977 > - in the mood, 24.10.1982 > - leader of the pack, 24.11.1984 > > Thats all I could find I have been wondering about this track in the discography: Dave Brock 1969? The Buskers (EMI) [LP pressing of a buskers concert featuring pre-Hawkwind Brock] [only one Brock track] Bring it on Home Is this song the same as the Willie Dixon one (that was covered by Led Zeppelin)? Thanks, Frank ObCD: Muddy Waters - The Chess Box -- ============================================================================== Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges. -- Gold Hat in "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre" From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Wed Oct 16 17:58:53 1996 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:58:53 -0400 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: << Perhaps next time when something is forwarded from *another* source we could see some CONTEXT. The guy is entitled to his opinion, no? If he doesn't like BOC-L so what? If he thinks HW suck, so what? So does my mom. If he thinks that certain CDs are worth certain sums of money- so what? He can say whatever he wants on that list as far as I can see, and if we were given some context, maybe we would understand the issue that was being discussed, and would lay back on the old character assasination trip. He has been good to many folks, but likes to speak his mind, and is passionate about his music, so cut him a little slack. Personally speaking, he has helped all of us BOC fans in Aust. get a little bit of info/memorabilia together, and introduced us to BS as well. We are all grateful for this. Troy >> I've seen Bolle's postings on AOL for almost 2 years, have met him once and have corresponded with him on multiple occasions. He's swedish and is not the least bit shy about speaking (or typing) his mind. And doesn't mind pissing people off in the process. He's also been very helpful and informative. I think I have to agree with Troy in that Bolle's entitled to his opinion and the right to express it. However, I don't agree with him if he denigrates someone in the process. However, BOC-L should not feel that he's picking on them. You should see some of the flame wars he's initiated on AOL!! Some have been justified (IMHO), ... R. BTW, I've pointed out the filter option to Bolle in the past. Dunno if he remembers it's available tho. I use it and STILL get ALOT of HW/related mail... From delacour at UNM.EDU Wed Oct 16 18:32:12 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:32:12 -0600 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble In-Reply-To: <27ABB28269B@hawk.syr.edu> Message-ID: Theo; Yeah, just go ahead a send me the Worcester tape tomorrow, please. I can wait on the other stuff. Afterall, Worcester was only for a straight trade for the GOldmine article. GOd bless... Manuel & Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 16 23:51:30 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 23:51:30 BST Subject: OFF: displaying picture discs In-Reply-To: cjohnson's message of Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:54:44 EST Message-ID: cjohnson writes: > I just tracked down a copy of the last HW picture disc for my > collection (12" only, no little guys). I am now trying to > determine the best way to display these critters on my wall. > > Does anyone have any recommendations on what to use for a display > frame? I'll evaluate any reasonably priced products that someone > is willing to vouch for, but I'm also interested in any creative > methods (particularly if they are cheap :-). Or _is_ there anybody > out there hanging this kind of stuff on their walls? > shop in Edinburgh just uses clear vinyl covers and then hangs the covers up by whatever method is available. I guess the alternative might be to buy a cheap (say) metal frame with black backing paper and insert card (or whatever you call the piece of card that frames the central picture) and ask a frame shop to enlarge the central hole in the insert card into a circle shape that would fit the album. Then slot everything together. > My current Kollection contains 8 LP picture discs: > - Acid Daze 1, 2, 3 > - 3 from Official LogBook (Stonehenge, CotBS, O&I) > - Zones > - first album (this is the one I just ordered) > > Any 12-inchers missing from this list? > The Magnu Silver Machine pic disc was issued in the shape of a motorcycle rider. Dunno whether you'd class it as 12" although its irregular shape makes it bigger than a single. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Wed Oct 16 17:36:32 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 17:36:32 -0400 Subject: In defense of Bolle Message-ID: ELITIST? US???? Hell, ya' let ME join, just how elite can we be? (And I just got a real good behavioral hint from my spell checker. When it came to Bolle's name, it choked onnit and gave me a list of possible changes. I chose the IGNORE ALL button... :-) I guess I take umbrage with the fact that Bolle has never chosen to participate over in this forum to see if we really are a bunch of HW-centric jerks. I also don't buy the reason that because he is originally from Sweden, he might not have a grasp of the English language. Horse-hockeypucks! The fine gentlemen that are on this list from various other countries do not seem to have any difficulty with expressing themselves, without resorting to calling someone a cheap @#^$&*{} or dismissing their view with a hearty #%^$ *&$!!! (Uhhh, before anyone takes offense, what I meant referring to those fine folks here that do not speak English as their native tongue. Not you Youkayans!) Sounds like the "bad blood" between the US Tangerine Dream fan club and the band (or Edgar Froese). Bolle can't see the relationship between the two bands? Let me try: 1. Both bands create(d) what we refer to here as "thinking persons' rock" (i.e. aimed at your brain, not at your genitals). An other-worldly nature is present in most of both bands' works. Pioneered a new sound that many have emulated, few have matched. 2. Early adapters of synths/electronics into the "hard/heavy metal" rock idiom. (OK my synth bias is showing; sue me!) 3. Michael Moorcock has written for both bands. Has only sung/spoken with HW. (Good thing?) 4. Dave Brock has been photographed wearing a BOC T-shirt!! (Did he get it at a gig, or was it tossed on- stage? Enquiring minds want to know!!) 5. Currently, there is a split between the "founding fathers" of the bands (Nikwind/Hawkwind and BOC/tBS) that most of us fans would like to see reconciled. Not bloody likely, but... 6. Steve Swann likes 'em both. So, once again it all boils down to being Steve Swanns' fault (you just knew it, didn'tcha???)!!! (S'Okay, Steve, I'm not gonna blame you for my age, but you can't get away without taking full responsibility for my hair-loss!! Oh, and the new addition to the family (currently under development) is fully my doing! :-) ). ...I think Steve and Bolle should have it out, mano y mano! (Largely written with tongue-in-cheek and meant to be taken that way. I really don't care what anyone who chooses not to participate here thinks of us, 'cuz they are just plain igg-neer-rint! And, remember, we are the "thinking persons" and can always bludgeon 'em to death with our superior intellects!) "...whadd'ya wanna do tonight, Brain????" objCDPlayer: CAMEL / Harbour Of Tears Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3223 bytes Desc: not available URL: From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Wed Oct 16 18:45:46 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:45:46 -0400 Subject: HW: cover songs - LIST Message-ID: From: Frank Weil[SMTP:frankw at COMM.MOT.COM] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 1996 5:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: HW: cover songs - LIST I have been wondering about this track in the discography: Dave Brock 1969? The Buskers (EMI) [LP pressing of a buskers concert featuring pre-Hawkwind Brock] [only one Brock track] Bring it on Home Is this song the same as the Willie Dixon one (that was covered by Led Zeppelin)? Is this the same one that is on the NIGHTRIDING CD? It sure sounds like a pre-HW Brock tune! (lo-fi, gee-tar blooze). One of two or three reasons to own this CD... objBOC: I bought my first BOC LP before I bought my first HW. Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com Thanks, Frank ObCD: Muddy Waters - The Chess Box -- ============================================================================== Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges. -- Gold Hat in "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2034 bytes Desc: not available URL: From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Wed Oct 16 18:57:49 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 18:57:49 -0400 Subject: HW: RE: CYM & SA crazy prices (was NTSC LiS Rumor) Message-ID: ---------- From: cjohnson[SMTP:cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 1996 6:46 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: HW: Love is Space NTSC rumor I also noted that a number of advertisers in the latest Goldmine are offering copies of the new SA and CYM for $20-30 each. I assume that these are imports. USA customers remember that these are available domestically for reasonable $12-15 prices! Don't spend too much money for an identical CD... Roger that, mein Kapitan! RPM has 'em at the same twenty bucks a smack; I passed on 'em. Wonder if it's just greed or there is a problem with the domestic supply and these mugs are really having to bring these in from the Great White North. If this is the case, jeez, guys, it's CANADA that they are coming from, it's not like you have to fly 'em over the Pond or something! And the Canadian buck is less than ours, so what gives?!? :-). Anyone seen 'em at Best Buy yet? (Not here in Atlanta, at least as far as last Thursday was concerned). Haven't found 'em in any of the local stores yet, but I haven't been looking real hard, either. Then, there is always the trip back up to DC next month to see the relatives (Tower Records, Of Sound Mind, Phantasmagoria, my AmEx is getting soft just thinking about it...) objBOC: I got a BOC T-shirt, too. Don't have no HW one. Score one for BOC! Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com Captain Cloud cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com ObBolleReference: "Don't Be a Sheep - Baa Baa Baa Baa" ;-) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Damon C Capehart | aka Le Monsieur Damon | dcapehar at utdallas.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have questions about the QUEST Bible studies and prayer meetings at U.T.D. or about QUEST in general, e-mail me at QUEST at utdallas.edu, or visit the QUEST website, maintained by scarson at utdallas.edu, at http://www.utdallas.edu/orgs/quest/ From paul at PCMICRO.COM.AU Wed Oct 16 18:28:34 1996 From: paul at PCMICRO.COM.AU (Paul G Ward) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:28:34 +1100 Subject: OFF: Test Message-ID: Forgive me ... I know not what I do (or at least my mail server doesn't) -- "If we knew what we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Ward, R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd ................................................................... Phone/Fax: +61 3 9888-9333/+61 3 9888-9001 Business Mail: mailto:paul at pcmicro.com.au ................................................................... Private Mail: mailto:sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au World Wide Web: http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- From gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU Wed Oct 16 20:12:28 1996 From: gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU (Guido Vacano) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 20:12:28 -0400 Subject: In defense of Bolle In-Reply-To: <199610162027.QAA06076@mbunix.mitre.org> from "John A Swartz" at Oct 16, 96 04:27:46 pm Message-ID: Hi John-- Sorry I messed up your name. I hate it when people mess up mine .;-) Re Mr. Gregmar, I wanted to clarify a few things. I have seen Bolle posts that were very reverent in tone in the past. I didn't mean to imply that you were saying we should revere him. Again, I could care less about what Bolle thinks about anything. This is because the opinions of boorish, hostile, and inarticulate people are the opinions of people who are not civilized. There is no point discussing anything with them. Guido From mordru at MAGG.NET Wed Oct 16 21:25:20 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:25:20 -0400 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: > The key word of this passage is "so what?". At the end of the day- it >makes no difference what Bolle or whoever thinks about this list, as long >as those who enjoy it continue to do so. It wasn't that so much as that many trying to get into BOC know of Bolle by reputation, and his post basically trashed this group in a public place as well as insulted a fan just starting to get into BOC, probably drove him off, and this is from the best known BOC authority out there. This is no way to attract fans to the group... > Not everyone has access to this. Which is why I posted it here. BTW, in response to another post, I'd not repost a private e-mail message from someone unless they asked me to, but this was a newsgroup, a public forum for all to see, anything posted there should be taken as such. Besides, I did it primarily to increase the number of BOC: messages in ratio to Hawkwind messages anyways. =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From mordru at MAGG.NET Wed Oct 16 21:25:16 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:25:16 -0400 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: > Perhaps next time when something is forwarded from *another* source we >could see some CONTEXT. The guy is entitled to his opinion, no? If he >doesn't like BOC-L so what? If he thinks HW suck, so what? So does my >mom. If he thinks that certain CDs are worth certain sums of money- so >what? Fine, here is the complete text of his post. It was posted in reply to a bost about which version of Astronomy was the best, and made obvious references to two other posts recently on alt.music.blueoystercult, one asking if the "Live 1976" video was worth $15.99 at Best Buy, and one praising E.T. Live as BOC's best album. To my knowledge (I monitor the group fairly regularly) no messages have been posted on there about BOC-L in at least a month or so.... Anyways, just to make sure no injustice was done: >Somebody said that they're all good... Well I think so too... >I still have my favourite though, it will always remain ST version because >it was Produced as such... I have plenty of Live tapes with >outstandingversions, mainly due to Buck's guitar playing, but sometimes >due to cool bits and pieces from the other guys in the band.... >Originally Albert, Joe & Eric sang each parts of this tune in Concert >before they decided on that final vote on who was to sing it for the >record..... The Best voice in the world won of course!!! > >Currently not the case as the BOC sets are seriously Buck Dharma oriented, >thus No Secret Treaties material in their sets... back in 1988-1991 they >played just about that entire album mines Cagey Cretins and Subhuman, 2 >tracks I'm sure all of us on this board would love to hear in conert one >of these days... I remember it from the 1975 Tour as the best song of the >shows. > >Some of you guys are much too rigid and close minded when you start to >list thing in order.... The worst BOC album is"Career Of Evil/The Metal >Years" because any one of us can assemble our own Best Of any fucking time >we wish to, and it won't contain the majority of the songs listed on that >disc.... > >My personal worst album will forever remain "ETL" It's all stuff recorded >by Radio Stations and about half of the album is the Hollywood >Sportatorium show from 1981 when Downey was brand new in the band and >their set list was possibly their worst Ever, after comming back from that >strange European tour. well... the later part of the 1984 Spring tour was >really sad too... > >Unfortunately ETL is one of their best selling albums but this is all >because of promotion and push etc. etc. That's always the best and easiest >way to get rid of garbage.... >Sales Figures will NEVER represent quality. So, For That, Agents Album >sales crap... Who cares... it went to the lowest common denominator... >People who only know the Hits, aren't fans, they're just casual music >listeners and they like some shit they can sing along too, that's it! >Fans look for exitement... all these other fill up losers just fuck things >up for the rest of the society, leaving us with Overt Commercial crap to >suffer from daily repeats on the FM Bands throughout the world.... I'll >play my own music daily thank You! > >Further More: BOC L Sucks! When they get rid of the heavy load of >Hawkwind, it may turn legit, but in the meantime... >Logic Rules, Stupidity Sux, as always! > >Great Moments of latter day BOC are: RBN, Imaginos and 4 songs off Club >Ninja White Flags, Dancin' In The Ruins, When The War Comes (The Demo >Rules), and despite its lyrics, Make Rock Not War. I like the track to >Shadow Warrior, but "I'm A Rebel" is a lot more fun.. :-) and it sounds >better with Eric singing it alone. > >Finally.... Live 1976 is it worth 15.99??? Who ever asked this.... Fuck >You, ( I payed $80.00 for my LVD....) You Tight wad Heretic! Save Yer >Money and rename yourself Scrooge... IDIOT!!!! Who Needs 'em in BOC? >BOLLE_!_? =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From mordru at MAGG.NET Wed Oct 16 21:25:22 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:25:22 -0400 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: > So what is the "biggest word in a BOC song"? Transmaniacon? =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From mordru at MAGG.NET Wed Oct 16 21:25:27 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:25:27 -0400 Subject: In defense of Bolle Message-ID: >...I think Steve and Bolle should have it out, mano y mano! Can you say "Album Cover"? =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU Wed Oct 16 20:23:52 1996 From: gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU (Guido Vacano) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 20:23:52 -0400 Subject: In defense of Bolle In-Reply-To: <199610170125.VAA26514@grumpy.magg.net> from "Andrew A. Apold" at Oct 16, 96 09:25:27 pm Message-ID: > > >...I think Steve and Bolle should have it out, mano y mano! > > Can you say "Album Cover"? Since we are all Steve, I think Bolle would get his butt kicked. :-) Guido -- If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse From mordru at MAGG.NET Wed Oct 16 22:40:04 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:40:04 -0400 Subject: OFF: Supernatural Fairy Tales Message-ID: Well, I finally went and got this, $62.99 be damned. Someone asked for more info on this, so here goes: Supernatural Fairy Tales: The Progressive Rock Era Rhino Records, R2 722451. 5 CD Set. Before I begine the set list I should the excellent 64 page booklet laments the inability to include several bands in the set due to licensing problems, singling out Pink Floyd, Soft Machine, King Crimson, Camel, and Spinal Tap. Well, okay, not the last one. Hawkwind is mentioned also in the notes. The lengthy notes discuss each song in detail. Set List: First CD: America, by "The Nice" Paper Sun, by "Traffic" Repent Walpurgis, by "Procol Harum" Private Sorrow/Balloon Burning by "Pretty Things" Legend of a Mind by "The Moody Blues" Kings & Queens by "Renaissance" Sympathy by "Rare Bird" Under the Sky by "Pete Sinfield" Searching by "Klaus Schulze" Sunrise by "Kingdom Come" Second CD: The System/Babylon by "Aphrodite's Child" Death Walks Behind You by "Atomic Rooster" Der Vierte Kuss by "Ash Ra Tempel" Killer by "Van Der Graaf Generator" Oh Yeah by "Can" Knife-Edge by "Emerson, Lake & Palmer" In the Land of Grey and Pink by "Caravan" It Happened Today by "Curved Air" Hocus Pocus by "Focus:" Phrophet/Marvelry Skimmer by "Wigwash" ThirdCD: Perpetual Change by "Yes" Lothlorien by "Argent" Ladytron by "Roxy Music" Radio by "Supersister" Dear Little Mother by "Savage Rose" The Musical Box by "Genesis" Roll Over Beethoven by "Electric Light Orchestra" New World by "Strawbs" Celebration by "Premiata Forneria Marconi" Karn Evil 9: 1st Impression, parts 1 & 2 by "Emerson, Lake, & Palmer" FourthCD; Dancing with the Moonlight by "Genesis" Siberian Khatru by "Yes" Virginia Plain by "Roxy Music" Warrior (!) by "Wishbone Ash" Warinobaril by "Lard Free" Mozambique by "Amon Duul II" Round and Round by "Strawbs" Questions and Answers by "Nektar" Fils De Lumiere by "Ange" Ritorno al Nulla by "Le Orme" Without Words by "Clearlight" Fifth CD: Star Palace of the Sombre Warrior by "Seventh Wave" Perfect Mystery by "Gong" Free Hand by "Gentle Giant" War by "Henry Cow/Slapp Happy" Andra Sasten by "Samla Mammas Manna" Let's Eat (Real Soon) by "Hatfield & The North" Traccia II by "Banco" Tr?ller Tanz (Ghost Dance) by "Magma" It's a Rainy Day, Sunshine Girl by "Faust" Mummy was an Asteroid, Daddy was a Small Non-Stick Kitchen Utensil by "Quiet Sun" Radar Love by "Golden Earing" Inca Roads by "Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention" ===== What, no Rush? =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From StevenTice at AOL.COM Wed Oct 16 22:52:43 1996 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:52:43 -0400 Subject: In defense of Bolle Message-ID: Y'know, I think it's amazing that one little off-hand comment by Bolle can inspire so much action on BOC-L, when things have otherwise been awfully thin lately! Maybe he should give us a poke more often...:-) SET From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Wed Oct 16 23:02:10 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 23:02:10 -0400 Subject: HW: cover songs - LIST In-Reply-To: <9610161655.ZM22045@unknown.zmail.host> Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Frank Weil wrote (regarding cover versions): > I have been wondering about this track in the discography: > > Dave Brock > 1969? The Buskers (EMI) > [LP pressing of a buskers concert featuring pre-Hawkwind > Brock] > [only one Brock track] > Bring it on Home > > Is this song the same as the Willie Dixon one (that was covered by Led > Zeppelin)? Recall also that the remastered CD of _Hawkwind_ includes "Bring it on Home," credited to (Willie) Dixon, as a bonus track. So, this blues tune would count as another Hawkwind cover version. Speaking of blues, I wonder if Dave Brock was inspired by Skip James. (I'll have to check the cyberspace interview to see if he cites him.) Brock's early acoustic work (esp. "Hurry on Sundown") bears the hallmarks of James' Bentonia style, as it also does of the Piedmont bluesmen in general. (Love that fingerpickin' style!) Cheers, Paul. obCD: Skip James, _Today!_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Wed Oct 16 23:08:14 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 23:08:14 -0400 Subject: OFF: displaying picture discs In-Reply-To: <9609168455.AA845513684@hpsc.hisd.harris.com> Message-ID: Captain Cloud enquires: > I just tracked down a copy of the last HW picture disc for my > collection (12" only, no little guys). I am now trying to > determine the best way to display these critters on my wall. I remember seeing in Goldmine an advertiser that offered various vinyl sleeves and accessories, including clear plastic "wallets" for LPs. When I've seen picture discs displayed in record shops, they've usually been hung from the walls in this kind of thing. It might be a cheapo solution to your problem. Cheers, Paul. obCD: Frank Zappa, _Sheik Yerbouti_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Wed Oct 16 23:30:07 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 23:30:07 -0400 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: ---------- From: Andrew A. Apold[SMTP:mordru at MAGG.NET] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 1996 9:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble > Perhaps next time when something is forwarded from *another* source we >could see some CONTEXT. The guy is entitled to his opinion, no? If he >doesn't like BOC-L so what? If he thinks HW suck, so what? So does my >mom. If he thinks that certain CDs are worth certain sums of money- so >what? Fine, here is the complete text of his post. It was posted in reply to a bost about which version of Astronomy was the best, and made obvious references to two other posts recently on alt.music.blueoystercult, one asking if the "Live 1976" video was worth $15.99 at Best Buy, and one praising E.T. Live as BOC's best album. To my knowledge (I monitor the group fairly regularly) no messages have been posted on there about BOC-L in at least a month or so.... Anyways, just to make sure no injustice was done: Bolles' blather blasted... >Sales Figures will NEVER represent quality. So, For That, Agents Album >sales crap... Who cares... it went to the lowest common denominator... >People who only know the Hits, aren't fans, they're just casual music >listeners and they like some shit they can sing along too, that's it! >Fans look for exitement... all these other fill up losers just fuck things >up for the rest of the society, leaving us with Overt Commercial crap to >suffer from daily repeats on the FM Bands throughout the world.... I'll >play my own music daily thank You! > >Further More: BOC L Sucks! When they get rid of the heavy load of >Hawkwind, it may turn legit, but in the meantime... >Logic Rules, Stupidity Sux, as always! So, it was just a casual "screw you and the horse you rode in on" kind of response from Great God Gregmar. Nice to know that we earn this kind of emotional apoplexy just by our mere existence. Wonder what would happen if we all logged into a.m.boc and tried to seduce the masses into joining us? "WE ARE BOC-L. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. JOIN US. EXCEPT YOU, BOLLE." Wonder if he has a condom over his keyboard to keep it from shorting out when he starts foaming at the mouth... :-) > >Great Moments of latter day BOC are: RBN, Imaginos and 4 songs off Club >Ninja White Flags, Dancin' In The Ruins, When The War Comes (The Demo >Rules), and despite its lyrics, Make Rock Not War. I like the track to >Shadow Warrior, but "I'm A Rebel" is a lot more fun.. :-) and it sounds >better with Eric singing it alone. Newest piece of material was, what, 1986/87? Didn't he like BAD CHANNELS or CULT CLASSICS? Guess that the '90's have sucked for BOC...ooops! Used his word, I'm bad, forgive me... NOT! > >Finally.... Live 1976 is it worth 15.99??? Who ever asked this.... Fuck >You, ( I payed $80.00 for my LVD....) You Tight wad Heretic! Save Yer >Money and rename yourself Scrooge... IDIOT!!!! Who Needs 'em in BOC? >BOLLE_!_? All this proves is that he has entirely too much disposable income. Oh, and that he is a first class, oh you choose the word; I'm trying to be nice here. (Wonder what the poor unworthy said in response to this nasty response to a request for info? Or did they just grovel and fling themselves from a high building? Thanks for re-posting the whole thing, Roger. Even taken out of context, the quoted passages still stand on their own as immature prattle from a spoiled brat. Like I said "Some peoples' kids..." objMindless Prattle: BRAVES WIN, BRAVES WIN! WE'RE NOT DEAD YET! craigs at pyramid.com =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The "fire" aspect comes from their bite, which I have only experienced as inflicted by a solo ant. They do like to attack in battalion strength). I'm growing a mound or two in the front yard right now... This banter is kind of fun and it does increase the traffic! Craig -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1979 bytes Desc: not available URL: From paul at PCMICRO.COM.AU Wed Oct 16 22:08:04 1996 From: paul at PCMICRO.COM.AU (Paul G Ward) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:08:04 +1100 Subject: HW: RE: CYM & SA crazy prices (was NTSC LiS Rumor) Message-ID: On 16 Oct 96 at 18:22, Damon C Capehart wrote: > Well, if all else fails (or even if none else fails), Coleman > (Deltawave) does have a few in stock. If not, he can always order > more from Griffin directly (or almost directly, anyway). And I'm > not sure about this, but I think just about anyone with WWW access > can order directly from Griffin. Griffin don't have Credit Card abilities .... but I just ordered (only yesterday) two copies of each for $USD 69 including postage by sending an IMO. They also will take Bank Cheques made out in USD. Paul -- "If we knew what we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Ward, R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd ................................................................... Phone/Fax: +61 3 9888-9333/+61 3 9888-9001 Business Mail: mailto:paul at pcmicro.com.au ................................................................... Private Mail: mailto:sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au World Wide Web: http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu Oct 17 01:17:40 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:17:40 +0800 Subject: HW: Final Program, CD-I, & MIDI files Message-ID: On the subject of CD Videos, has anything else by HW been released, or being released, in this format? It would also be interesting to see them released in Enhanced CD format, that way fans without the facility would at least have a live CD! "Love in Space" could have been done in this format, since the video is the same (I think) as the CD. It is the same tracks, whether they are from the same concert I'm not too sure? The same goes for the other video releases. What song are HW playing on "The Final Programme" soundtrack? You can just about see them briefly in the scene at the nightclub. Are there any HW MIDI files out there on the net? William From mccolmp at MAIL.AUBURN.EDU Thu Oct 17 01:18:19 1996 From: mccolmp at MAIL.AUBURN.EDU (Michael P Mccollum) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 00:18:19 -0500 Subject: HW: RE: hawks in people mag puzzle In-Reply-To: <199610170115.LAA00324@hyme.pcmicro.com.au> Message-ID: my wife just pointed out to me that in a sept people magazine their is a crossword puzzle with the clue: " black ___ speakes(hawkwind song)" what a trip!! as if that clue would help anyone who reads people.. -later mike psyche From spacy at TELEPORT.COM Thu Oct 17 01:19:05 1996 From: spacy at TELEPORT.COM (Baron Bloom) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:19:05 -0700 Subject: Nik Message-ID: Where is all of the talk about Nik Turner? I like Nick Just as mutch as Brock's Hawkwind. Does aneyone know what Uncle Nik is up to? Thank you, BB http://www.teleport.com/~spacy/ ------------------------------- Zaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaeeeeeeeerrrsh! ------------------------------- spacy at teleport.com (Baron Bloom) From paul at PCMICRO.COM.AU Thu Oct 17 01:41:28 1996 From: paul at PCMICRO.COM.AU (Paul G Ward) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:41:28 +1100 Subject: HW: "Caution" lyrics... Message-ID: An acquaintance of my mine was so impressed with the WWW page for the fake album "Caution", that he started writing lyrics for it! ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- From: SUPRESSED to protect the (not so) innocent Um, on the off chance you want to add lyrics to your discography, I've been writing some for some tracks on "Caution :)" "Caution" was inspired by the book I'm reading, "In Search of Schrodinger's Cat". OK, so I just started it last night and have only got as far as the introduction :-) I tried to stick to a HW style for it, but I think it's maybe a little cheesy. I was thinking of getting Frantic Dogpaddle to record it as a "hawkwind cover" :-) --------------- Caution ------- In this world of danger and mystery You never know what's round the corner till you see Taking chances with advances in science and fiction You'll find curiosity is a fatal addiction Opening the pyramids and falling under a curse If you think the world is full of danger, try the universe You've got to use caution caution caution There's no protector From a collapsing state vector You've got to remember to always shut the gate When you're collapsing the probability state You've got to remember to open your mind To the possibilities of space and time Remember caution is your only friend Because the chain of cause and effect will never end You've got to use caution caution caution When reality does crash Don't look directly at the flash Emoticon -------- Tee aitch aey and are Dee oh en apostrophe Tee aey el and double you Aey why ess em E Aey and en and double you Aitch aey tee and tee Aitch aey are essay Why colon dash Close bracket -- "If we knew what we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Ward, R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd ................................................................... Phone/Fax: +61 3 9888-9333/+61 3 9888-9001 Business Mail: mailto:paul at pcmicro.com.au ................................................................... Private Mail: mailto:sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au World Wide Web: http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- From mjf at GRAHAM.COM Thu Oct 17 03:19:35 1996 From: mjf at GRAHAM.COM (Mike Fuller) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 00:19:35 -0700 Subject: OFF: In Search of Schrodinger's Cat (was: "Caution" lyrics...) In-Reply-To: <199610170411.OAA00793@hyme.pcmicro.com.au> Message-ID: >>>>> On Thu, 17 Oct 1996 16:41:28 +1100, Paul G Ward >>>>> said: Paul> "Caution" was inspired by the book I'm reading, "In Search of Paul> Schrodinger's Cat". OK, so I just started it last night and have Paul> only got as far as the introduction :-) I highly recommend the stuff past the introduction. I read it last year, and it's truly fascinating if you're interested in the history of modern physics. At least, I thought it was cool, but then again, people keep pointing out that I'm not normal. ;-) -- Mike From mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK Thu Oct 17 08:44:09 1996 From: mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK (Mike Parkington) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:44:09 +-100 Subject: HW: cover songs Message-ID: Wasn't it Tubilah Dog supporting that played City of tiny Lights? Mike P I think "SDitN" was recorded by Steve Swindells for his solo album after he left HW, so I guess that makes it an original HW recording. The only other thing which I can think of that comes close is a cover of Zappa's "City of Tiny Lights" which I think got played on an Agents of Chaos tour in the early 80s? I think there was also a mid-80s gig where Brock didn't show up and HLL had them doing loads of Hendrix covers or something ;) I'm not sure that any of that stuff (FZ or Hendrix) was recorded (officially anyway). BTW, having grown tired of receiving endless number of fancy-format messages I couldn't read I've decided to become part of the problem and get a fancy-email program. Hope this is all readable :) Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(@H'`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$-@ 0` M`@````(``@`!!) &`#0!```!````# ````,``# #````"P`/#@`````"`?\/ M`0```%$`````````@2L?I+ZC$!F=;@#=`0]4`@````!"3T,O2&%W:W=I;F0@ M1&ES8W5S``(P`0````4```!33510`````!X``S !````%P```$)/0RU,0$Q)4U13 M15)6+E-00RY%1%4```,`%0P!`````P#^#P8````>``$P`0```!\````G0D]# M+TAA=VMW:6YD($1I``@0`0```&4```!705-.5$E45%5"24Q!2$1/1U-54%!/4E1)3D=4 M2$%44$Q!645$0TE464]&5$E.64Q)1TA44S]-24M%4$E42$E.2R)31$E43B)7 M05-214-/4D1%1$)94U1%5D535TE.1$5,3%-&``````(!"1 !````,00``"T$ M``#%!@``3%I&=;=:2QS_``H!#P(5`J@%ZP*#`% "\@D"`&-H"L!S970R-P8` M!L,"@S(#Q0(`<')"<1'BH N SP= *L$D=1S!+B ;@"I0^PJ%`B!L'?$= M`"HA(V(<,.YW(W 1<",Q8P.1(V0>$O<=$@6@!X)C%: 1L!M0!" 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Anybody can fire up > > a newsreader and see the whole post, in all its halfwit glory. I did, > > and I was mightily underwhelmed by the man's intellect. > > Not everyone has access to this. Anybody who doesn't get it (and cares) should take it up with their internet provider. Certainly it's available to anyone who wants it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just a small point, but anyone who reads the news from the UK academic community is certainly going to be very lucky to have access to any of the alt. newsgroups. Many UK Universityoes will not carry these groups as a matter of policy. I'm not sure what the situation is in the rest of Europe or indeed the world. Andy C -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1769 bytes Desc: not available URL: From D.M.Bottomley at LBORO.AC.UK Thu Oct 17 05:13:41 1996 From: D.M.Bottomley at LBORO.AC.UK (David Bottomley) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:13:41 +0100 Subject: HW: cover songs - LIST Message-ID: At 18:38 16/10/96 +0100, you wrote: >Here is a very 1st attempt to create a cover songs list >(to be completed, corrected and continued...) >- all along the watchtower, 05.05.1986 >- wild thing, 10.02.1985 >- make what you can (?), 13.02.1972 >- oh lord, 22.06.1984 >- cimbaline >- waiting for my man, 11.03.1977 >- in the mood, 24.10.1982 >- leader of the pack, 24.11.1984 Are you sure this last one isn't Huw's song 'Got Your Number' which HW played for a while around '84? Dave B From dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM Thu Oct 17 05:35:23 1996 From: dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM (Jeremy Dacombe) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 05:35:23 EDT Subject: HW: LOTP? Message-ID: --- Received from LIMEMO1.DACOMBJ 4709 17/10/96 10.34 --- Received from LES.DACOMBJ 4709 02/10/96 08.29 --- Received from LES.DACOMBJ 4709 26/09/96 08.40 -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBMMAIL INTERNET GATEWAY INTERNET Hi, What is all this talk of HW playing LEADER OF THE PACK on 24.11.84? THEY GOT YOUR NUMBER (the Huwy song) has "leader of the pack" as one of the lyrics and was also played on this tour. Is this where the confusion lies? Jez From djve at DEAKIN.EDU.AU Thu Oct 17 06:00:50 1996 From: djve at DEAKIN.EDU.AU (David Evans) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 20:00:50 +1000 Subject: HW: "Caution" lyrics... Message-ID: Now all you need is a word with 'CE' in it made from the remaining titles to added to the joke. ie "sucked in": s = ?? u = ?? c = Caution k = ?? e = Emoticon You get the idea. The lyrics are doggrel (but so are some HW). With a bit of music they could really be HW songs. The "Coded Languages" clone gave me the biggest laugh. David -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Systems Programmer | Productivity Through Technology Information Technology Services | Deakin University | email: djve at deakin.edu.au Geelong VIC 3217 Australia | Also: root, postmaster, admin, Tel: +61 52 273384 Fax: +61 52 272010 | webmaster & usenet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul G Ward wrote: > An acquaintance of my mine was so impressed with the WWW page for the > fake album "Caution", that he started writing lyrics for it! > > ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- > From: SUPRESSED to protect the (not so) innocent > > Um, on the off chance you want to add lyrics to your > discography, I've been writing some for some tracks on "Caution :)" > > "Caution" was inspired by the book I'm reading, "In Search of > Schrodinger's Cat". OK, so I just started it last night and > have only got as far as the introduction :-) I tried to stick to a HW > style for it, but I think it's maybe a little cheesy. I was thinking > of getting Frantic Dogpaddle to record it as a "hawkwind cover" :-) > > --------------- > > Caution > ------- > > Emoticon > -------- > > -- > "If we knew what we were doing, it would not be called research, > would it?" - Albert Einstein > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Paul Ward, R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd > ................................................................... > Phone/Fax: +61 3 9888-9333/+61 3 9888-9001 > Business Mail: mailto:paul at pcmicro.com.au > ................................................................... > Private Mail: mailto:sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au > World Wide Web: http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 17 11:23:01 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 11:23:01 BST Subject: OFF: displaying picture discs In-Reply-To: J Strobridge's message of Wed, 16 Oct 1996 23:51:30 BST Message-ID: J Strobridge writes: > cjohnson writes: > > > I just tracked down a copy of the last HW picture disc for my > > collection (12" only, no little guys). I am now trying to > > determine the best way to display these critters on my wall. > > > > Does anyone have any recommendations on what to use for a display > > frame? I'll evaluate any reasonably priced products that someone > > is willing to vouch for, but I'm also interested in any creative > > methods (particularly if they are cheap :-). Or _is_ there anybody > > out there hanging this kind of stuff on their walls? > > > > shop in Edinburgh just uses clear vinyl covers and then hangs the > covers up by whatever method is available. I guess the alternative > might be to buy a cheap (say) metal frame with black backing paper > and insert card (or whatever you call the piece of card that frames the > central picture) and ask a frame shop to enlarge the central hole in the > insert card into a circle shape that would fit the album. Then slot > everything together. > > > > My current Kollection contains 8 LP picture discs: > > - Acid Daze 1, 2, 3 > > - 3 from Official LogBook (Stonehenge, CotBS, O&I) > > - Zones > > - first album (this is the one I just ordered) > > > > Any 12-inchers missing from this list? > > > > The Magnu Silver Machine pic disc was issued in the shape of a > motorcycle rider. Dunno whether you'd class it as 12" although its > irregular shape makes it bigger than a single. Some of them weren't pressed out and made either a 10" or 12" picture disc. > jill FoFP From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Thu Oct 17 04:38:08 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:38:08 +0200 Subject: In defense of Bolle Message-ID: At 08:23 PM 10/16/96 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >...I think Steve and Bolle should have it out, mano y mano! >> >> Can you say "Album Cover"? > >Since we are all Steve, I think Bolle would get his butt kicked. :-) > >Guido > >-- >If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse > :-) I'm a fucking Steve too, I'm from fucking Sweden, I can't handle the fucking language, I don't like kicking butts, Live 76 sucks (too fucking expensive), fuck fuck :-) -Daniel ps please can't we end this discussion... ds "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Thu Oct 17 07:07:44 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:07:44 +0200 Subject: OFF: displaying picture discs Message-ID: >> > My current Kollection contains 8 LP picture discs: >> > - Acid Daze 1, 2, 3 >> > - 3 from Official LogBook (Stonehenge, CotBS, O&I) >> > - Zones >> > - first album (this is the one I just ordered) was the pic disks in the Official Logbook ever released separately? \\joe From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 17 13:32:38 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:32:38 BST Subject: OFF: displaying picture discs In-Reply-To: Johan Edlundh's message of Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:07:44 +0200 Message-ID: Johan Edlundh writes: > >> > My current Kollection contains 8 LP picture discs: > >> > - Acid Daze 1, 2, 3 > >> > - 3 from Official LogBook (Stonehenge, CotBS, O&I) > >> > - Zones > >> > - first album (this is the one I just ordered) > > was the pic disks in the Official Logbook ever released separately? > \\joe nope. They remain unique - to the best of my knowledge. (I'll probably discover that the Seychelle Islands issued a limited edition run sometime during the 1980s or something now!) jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Oct 17 14:01:07 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:01:07 GMT+0100 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: --On tor 17 okt 1996 09.07 "Andy C" wrote: > Just a small point, but anyone who reads the news from the UK academic > community is certainly going to be very lucky to have access to any of the > alt. newsgroups. Many UK Universityoes will not carry these groups as a > matter of policy. I'm not sure what the situation is in the rest of Europe > or indeed the world. U Cambridge seems to have most of them, though I was confused recently when the boc one appeared to drop of the face of my newsreader. I haven't looked very hard to see if I could find it again, since I didn't read it often ... more boring than boc-l. There's more differences of opinion here, I think, which is more stimulating, IMHO. Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From D.K.Hardman at CITY.AC.UK Thu Oct 17 09:30:15 1996 From: D.K.Hardman at CITY.AC.UK (Hardman DK) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:30:15 +0100 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble In-Reply-To: <199610170125.VAA26491@grumpy.magg.net> Message-ID: Let me go out on a limb and say that, having read Bolle's entire posting now, I think it's really quite funny. I'm not quite sure why it's being taken so seriously. Dave ****************************************************************************** Dave Hardman Phone: +44 0171 477 8000 x4540 Department of Psychology Fax: +44 0171 477 8581 City University Northampton Square London EC1V 0HB ***************************************************************************** From jmlofft at BUFFNET.NET Thu Oct 17 04:34:49 1996 From: jmlofft at BUFFNET.NET (Joseph M. Lofft) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:34:49 GMT Subject: BOC: Bolle - ENOUGH ALREADY Message-ID: How much longer am I going to have to suffer through this crap. BOC-L was silent before Bolle's comments, now I wish it return that way. Someone please post something interesting... From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Thu Oct 17 09:35:14 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 23:35:14 +1000 Subject: In de fence of Bolle and the yard of BOC-L, there are squids In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Andrew Gilham wrote: > Jason said > > >It's a side effect of banding together with people who have the relatively > >same interest. Oneupsmanship about how much you dig something >comapred to > >another person is seen in playgrounds and office water fountains the world > >over. > > The old "true fan" thing, eh? Well, I'm happy for Bolle to _lurve_ Blue > Oyster Cult more than I do! > > For no particular reason, I'm reminded of the Newcastle United fan who had a > picture of Andy Cole tattooed on his arm - about a week before he was > transferred to Manchester United... the follies of being a "true believer", I > guess. > > - Andy > David Hirst I could understand. Troy From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Thu Oct 17 10:42:21 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:42:21 EST Subject: tBS mailing Message-ID: Well, I think poor ole BG's taken enough of a pounding for awhile, but in an attempt to further plague his apoplexy, why don't we discuss the current mailing from Al and company? The list of tBS merchandise incl. cds is a real holiday shot in the arm. Who's already ordered BoH? I'm broke, but I should be getting my order in soon. Hey Al, the order form doesn't mention sizes on the t-shirts. Any chance that they'll be offered in xxl to accomodate us full-figured guys? theo From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Thu Oct 17 09:53:21 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 23:53:21 +1000 Subject: BOC: Bolle - ENOUGH ALREADY In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19961017093320.085fb2cc@buffnet.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Joseph M. Lofft wrote: > How much longer am I going to have to suffer through this crap. BOC-L was > silent before Bolle's comments, now I wish it return that way. Someone > please post something interesting... > NO! you first! Actually, is there any news updates on the studio work? Troy From mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK Thu Oct 17 14:54:17 1996 From: mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK (Mike Parkington) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:54:17 +-100 Subject: Off: Instead of Bolle Message-ID: Here's something to freshen the air and make a change from bashing poor Mr Bolle. Apologies to those who have already seen it or think it's a load of old crap. And no, there isn't any hidden statement here about anybody on or off this or any other list. I just thought it funny. --------------------- So, it was with a disappointingly small party which we set off for the backwoods on our great Bigfoot fieldwork expedition. It was strange, but when I phoned everyone who had intended to go, most seemed to act very oddly and claim to be washing their hair or have "important things to do" that weekend. What could possibly be more important than spending the weekend with me, Thy Editor? I suspect they have been leaned on by Government Security Services who are frightened at the enormous portent of my work, My Struggle, a struggle so great it will break down the walls of society as we know it, and the people will look up and see who was responsible. Me. And they shall cry (especially the chicks) "Oh Thy Editor. You are so wise. Only you can tell us how to behave. Lead us! Lead Us to your brave new world of Order, Discipline, purity".....ahem. Sorry, got a bit carried away there. Anyway. We arrived at the end of the road and left behind the pickup truck (its called a pickup because I use it to "Pick up" chicks), and set off into the wilderness proper: The wooded park behind the factory. Soon we had left civilisation behind and were surrounded on all sides by thick, pine forest. Up above the sky was blue and clear and birds were twittering merrily. We did not see any Bigfeet though. After a days trekking we finally arrived at the campsite. I ordered everyone in the expedition to go and swim in the ice cold waters of the nearby stream (for their own good) then set about getting the fire lit. All we wanted now were a few beers (especially me because I can drink loads, being such a _man_). As we sat around the campfire discussing the general Bigfoot theories I was saddened at how childish and immature my companions were and how little they knew about the topic. At least one of my companions had only done 20 years fieldwork and published numerous respected works on the subject for Christ sake! What did he know. He's only 14 years old and lives with his parents!. He's never worked an hour in his life. Sure, he might have dyed his hair grey and rented the the house with the company car in the driveway we picked him up at to try and give the *impression* he's not, but he is. Because I KNOW. OK?. Needless to say, Thy Editor soon pointed out the error of all their ways. Another annoying thing was that some idiot who had camped there before seems to have left live bullets in the fireplace, and the heat from the flames was now setting them off. The strange thing was, whatever way the bullets were ricocheting off the trees they all seemed to be coming out of the woods in my direction. It was while I was responding to one of my companions opinion that the bigfoot was a large monkey and not an alien (by perfectly justifiably calling them a stupid, home living, pervert idiot: i don't start. I just respond), that I suddenly realised that all my companions had disappeared. Obviously the sinister government agency had been at work again and kidnapped them. They'd even faked a note from my companions which said that they thought I was a hate-filled, nasty little shit and that they'd been so insulted by me that they had all gone home without me. this was obviously a hoax. Those guys love me and I'm friends with 80% of them. The other 20% are trivial minded fools. Determined to carry on the hunt I went to my tent for the night. I was awoken around Two A.M. by strange noises. Leaving my tent I was amazed to see three, hairy male hominid creatures, picking through the remnants of our campfire. This was it. The first contact with a bigfoot! And it was all down to me. Knowing their alien origin I attempted to communicate with them via hand signals rather than speech. To my surprise they responded in perfectly good English which they claimed to have learned by listening to the BBC World Service. This was a chance to find out the truth behind the mystery. I asked where they came from. They replied by explaining that they were descended from Neanderthal Humans which had been driven to living in the wilderness by the arrival of modern human beings. They also said they live in close family/tribal groups and live a simple existence, surviving by hunting and gathering. BULLSHIT! What do they know? They're only Bigfeet! Have they done years of fieldwork? I don't think so. For Christs Sake they still live with their parents and they've never done a days work in their lives. Bigfoot is a space alien. Period. I know. I told them it was time they shaped up, stopped talking drivel and agreed with everything I said. At that one of them stroked my cheek and said how smooth and female like my skin was. I was then subjected to what I can only described as an alien abduction forced impregnation experience by all three of them and I have not been able to sit down since. Thine Editor Mensa King Curator of a museum, tomorrow the world. **Please note: The above story is entirely fictional and any resemblance to any person, either living or dead, is entirely coincidental**************************************************** From FURSTD at BOYSTOWN.ORG Thu Oct 17 10:59:07 1996 From: FURSTD at BOYSTOWN.ORG (DAVID FURST) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 08:59:07 -0600 Subject: Halloween & BOC Message-ID: ..and now for something completely different....Just a comment on the season and halloween coming up. I've always thought that boc made the best halloween type of rock n roll ever. Indian summer died here last night and now the sky hangs low and gray and cold, shrouding the remaining harvest yet to be had. Mistress ov thee Salmon Salt - is awesome to set the mood - and scare potential trick and/or treaters running down the street, past the rusted gate and the cemetary, nothing planned or ordinary, just the thing for candlelight and slow black night, deviating never caring how or why. (dr. suess on acid I guess). Turn up the volume til the drums and bass rattle like thunder, leviathon beastlike, carries you suspended 'tween earth and sky, now I know and know I wonder, so many reasons how and why. er...um...sorry, just got possessed a moment there, felt like my head was gonna explode!!! Anyways, sure wish I could hear Harvest Moon - got the lyrics which look quite cool. I can't remember, is iot available anywhere, like on a movie soundtrack or something? see you when I get back down, dave//evad From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Thu Oct 17 09:57:43 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 23:57:43 +1000 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Hardman DK wrote: > Let me go out on a limb and say that, having read Bolle's entire posting > now, I think it's really quite funny. I'm not quite sure why it's being > taken so seriously. > > Dave AND according to the man himself, it was a kind of "in" joke between friends. Last laugh? Troy "and the jokes.....on you!" From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Thu Oct 17 10:03:52 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 00:03:52 +1000 Subject: Halloween & BOC In-Reply-To: <337403@BoysTown.ORG> Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, DAVID FURST wrote: > ..and now for something completely different....Just a comment on the season > and halloween coming up. I've always thought that boc made the best halloween > type of rock n roll ever. Indian summer died here last night and now the sky > hangs low and gray and cold, shrouding the remaining harvest yet to be had. Actually, here in the backward land of Aust., we used to (when I was a little younger) have BOC parties every Fri.13th. We may ressurect the idea for the next one. Any other crazy people out there who have done similar? We got the idea from a US 'zine. Troy From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Thu Oct 17 11:11:48 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:11:48 EST Subject: Halloween & BOC Message-ID: > > ..and now for something completely different....Just a comment on the season > and halloween coming up. I've always thought that boc made the best halloween > type of rock n roll ever. Indian summer died here last night and now the sky > hangs low and gray and cold, shrouding the remaining harvest yet to be had. > > Mistress ov thee Salmon Salt - is awesome to set the mood - and scare potential > trick and/or treaters running down the street, past the rusted gate and the > cemetary, nothing planned or ordinary, just the thing for candlelight and slow > black night, deviating never caring how or why. (dr. suess on acid I guess). > Turn up the volume til the drums and bass rattle like thunder, leviathon > beastlike, carries you suspended 'tween earth and sky, now I know and know I > wonder, so many reasons how and why. > > er...um...sorry, just got possessed a moment there, felt like my head was gonna > explode!!! Anyways, sure wish I could hear Harvest Moon - got the lyrics which > look quite cool. I can't remember, is iot available anywhere, like on a movie > soundtrack or something? > > see you when I get back down, > dave//evad Hey, don't forget the hated 'Feel the Thunder,' which takes place on all hallow's eve. BD's incredible gutiar really evokes some demonic images... theo From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Thu Oct 17 09:45:49 1996 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (M R Godwin) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:45:49 +0100 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble In-Reply-To: <01BBBC0F.746AD3B0@snowflake.mcs.dundee.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, Andy C wrote: > > > As for context, it's on alt.music.blueoystercult. > Just a small point, but anyone who reads the news from the UK academic > community is certainly going to be very lucky to have access to any of the > alt. newsgroups. Many UK Universityoes will not carry these groups as a > matter of policy. That's right - we can't get any of these at Bath University - Mike Godwin From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Thu Oct 17 13:03:10 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:03:10 +0100 Subject: HW: cover songs - LIST Message-ID: At 10:13 17.10.96 +0100, you wrote: >Are you sure this last one isn't Huw's song 'Got Your Number' which HW >played for a while around '84? Sorry, my fault. Of course it's GOT YOUR NUMBER. cheers Bernhard From mordru at MAGG.NET Thu Oct 17 12:59:45 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 12:59:45 -0400 Subject: BOC: Bolle - stirring up more trouble Message-ID: >>Originally Albert, Joe & Eric sang each parts of this tune in Concert >>before they decided on that final vote on who was to sing it for the >>record..... The Best voice in the world won of course!!! > >As with much of that post, there's no evidence this is intended as ironic, >beyond the fact that it's completely fucking ludicrous!! Yeah, it's too bad Barry White had to leave BOC right after that before they ever recorded any of his renditions of Astronomy. Tragic loss. BW: "Come suzy dear, let's take a walk....", fits perfectly... =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From mordru at MAGG.NET Thu Oct 17 12:59:47 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 12:59:47 -0400 Subject: HW: "Caution" lyrics... Message-ID: >An acquaintance of my mine was so impressed with the WWW page for the >fake album "Caution", that he started writing lyrics for it! You know, does producing a secret tape of this fall under the category of a BOC-L project? . Where can we get the music.... hmmmm.... I'm impressed by how far this is going. If this ever does happen, we need to include a xerox of the fax from Doug Smith inside the cover. I imagine were this ever vinyl, you could have a voice start by saying "In the eleventh second of fore..." and be cut off at the end of side one. =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From skarsol at EROLS.COM Thu Oct 17 09:00:59 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 13:00:59 +0000 Subject: Bolle Message-ID: Everybody and his brother wrote: >blah..blah..blah..blah. so when can we get the new subject heading- BOLLE: ? this is sickening,81 mssgs about nothing is crap. bolle's opinions are relevant to nothing.this list is for the discussion of boc,and hw. it is not right to forward mssgs from people who do not care enuff to subscribe.you wanna talk about bolle's mssgs,go to the place they were expressed. or go to an irc,and rant and rave to yer heart's content. thank you. rj From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Thu Oct 17 14:11:44 1996 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 14:11:44 -0400 Subject: tBS mailing Message-ID: T-shirts are XL, but if you want a custom size, send your order before the Nov 1 deadline and it can be arranged. DF PS- Re Bolle (posts about whom =almost= make one nostalgic for good old Brevard and his bathroom habits :-) ) He's really one of the sweeter (if occasionally misguided- then again, who isn't?) people on the planet. He'll also say =any=thing just to (in his words) stir up some action. He thinks (also in his words) that this is funny. English is not his native language, and some of the subtleties escape him-- never mind that he has not benefitted from the same kind of training in any language that the less underwhelming thinkers on this list have. Of course the sprightly discourse, irregardless of band topic, is what makes boc-l so unique. If Bolle had some new music or developments to get genuinely excited about, he wouldn't be resorting to such silliness just to get people talking. Well, we're doin' our part... you'll see/hear for yourselves within a few weeks... later- df From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Thu Oct 17 14:24:44 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 20:24:44 +0200 Subject: OFF: displaying picture discs Message-ID: At 17:54 1996-10-16 EST, you wrote: > I just tracked down a copy of the last HW picture disc for my > collection (12" only, no little guys). I am now trying to > determine the best way to display these critters on my wall. > > Does anyone have any recommendations on what to use for a display > frame? I'll evaluate any reasonably priced products that someone > is willing to vouch for, but I'm also interested in any creative > methods (particularly if they are cheap :-). Or _is_ there anybody > out there hanging this kind of stuff on their walls? I use a Sabbath/Paranoid pic disc as a clock - I feel pubertal every time I see it :0) > My current Kollection contains 8 LP picture discs: > - Acid Daze 1, 2, 3 > - 3 from Official LogBook (Stonehenge, CotBS, O&I) > - Zones > - first album (this is the one I just ordered) > > Any 12-inchers missing from this list? got a note Xenon Codex was released as a pic disc, but this is unconfirmed and probably not true. isn't your Acid Dazers released as the original Samurai Anthology? (as in the Approved History of triple LP set) and AFAIK those are the only pic 7":ers - in various mispresses: Silver Machine / Seven by Seven (Doremi/Warrior pic disc) Silver Machine x 2 / Psychedelic Warlords (10th anniversary pic disc) Silver Machine / Magnu (shaped motorcycle pic disc) but the best looking pic disc in the family must be the Brock - Social Alliance / Raping Robots in the Streets 7" (pic is taken from the Earthed to the Ground album, but fits much better on a circular format - a masterpiece if you're a layout nerd...) > Captain Cloud > cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com \\joe From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Oct 17 05:45:00 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 10:45:00 +0100 Subject: In defense of Bolle In-Reply-To: <01BBBB94.127C23A0@dynamic-13.async.pyramid.com> Message-ID: In message <01BBBB94.127C23A0 at dynamic-13.async.pyramid.com>, "Craig A. Shipley" writes >4. Dave Brock has been photographed wearing a BOC T-shirt!! (Did he get it at a >gig, or was it tossed on- > stage? Enquiring minds want to know!!) Dave wore a BOC t-shirt on stage at Hammersmith Odeon in '78 or '79. Either Vardis or Doll-by-Doll were supporting... The t-shirt Dave is wearing on the It's The Business cover (laughing, holding Warrior guitar) is a 3 Stooges t-shirt. My kid brother has the same T. I recommend the filters be amended to BOC/HW/NIK/BRAIN/3ST/OFF. :0) -- Jon Browne From stayer at PI.NET Thu Oct 17 23:07:28 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 20:07:28 PDT Subject: OFF: Supernatural Fairy Tales Message-ID: >Supernatural Fairy Tales: The Progressive Rock Era >Rhino Records, R2 722451. 5 CD Set. On the fourth disc: >Questions and Answers by "Nektar" WHAT IS THIS?!?!?!?!?! Sorry for yelling, but that is what I did. A big Nektar fan here is shaking behind his screen. Could you please give me all the info you have on this track? Er, even lyrics! (Just the chorus would be great.) Thanks! Jerry From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Oct 17 04:49:19 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 09:49:19 +0100 Subject: HW: RE: CYM & SA crazy prices (was NTSC LiS Rumor) In-Reply-To: <01BBBB94.1E665F00@dynamic-13.async.pyramid.com> Message-ID: In message <01BBBB94.1E665F00 at dynamic-13.async.pyramid.com>, "Craig A. Shipley" writes > I also noted that a number of advertisers in the latest Goldmine > are offering copies of the new SA and CYM for $20-30 each. I > assume that these are imports. USA customers remember that these > are available domestically for reasonable $12-15 prices! Don't > spend too much money for an identical CD... My local HMV has 'em at a full 15 UKPounds each. This is the first time this year at least, that I've found a Hawk release oddly resistable. Might have something to do with the vinyl copies I picked up earlier in the year at around the same prices. Plus I had to get two copies of Sonic Attack on account of the first copy found being irritatingly rare in having two "side one"'s. :). Plus the twenty plus other Hawkdiscs I've bought this year. At a tenner each I'd snap them up but 30 quid the pair is a mite swingeing at the moment. Does that make me a tightwad heretic too? -- Jon Browne From cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Thu Oct 17 18:02:09 1996 From: cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:02:09 EST Subject: HW: Spiral Reamls (!) Message-ID: I was just staring at the stack of CDs next to my workstation, and noticed that the binder of my new copy of Spiral Realms "Solar Wind" has a major typo. It is clearly labelled "SPIRAL REAMLS"! (This is actually printed on a 2-inch-wide sticker running the length of the jewel case binding.) Just some low-grade Hawk-trivia to pass the afternoon... Captain Cloud cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com ObExtendedJams: Pink Floyd, San Diego CA 17oct71. From cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Thu Oct 17 18:13:09 1996 From: cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:13:09 EST Subject: HW: Hawkdog Snortwind Message-ID: I have never fully understood the various mid-eighties incarnations of HW members under different HW-related names. I have heard of Snortwind, SnorKwind(is that right?), Hawkdog, probably others also. Adrian Parr lists these in his printed HW tour guide. Each of these is essentially *some* regular members of HW (possibly accompanied?) performing live gigs at one-off venues -- no regular tours(?). Can anybody out there elucidate on the various Hawk-names and members of these offshoots? Captain Cloud cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Thu Oct 17 18:30:05 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 22:30:05 UT Subject: In defense of Bolle Message-ID: >Dave wore a BOC t-shirt on stage at Hammersmith Odeon in '78 or '79. >Either Vardis or Doll-by-Doll were supporting... Then it'd have to be '79 (Doll by Doll), 'cause '78 was Patrik FitzGerald, and Vardis was '80. And wasn't it a Mirrors shirt????? - BOC had just played four nights at Hammersmith a month or so earlier on that tour. DbD had a fight or something, though, and there was a different (better) support at Ipswich a couple days later. - Andy From scruto19 at POTSDAM.EDU Thu Oct 17 21:06:48 1996 From: scruto19 at POTSDAM.EDU (Jason "Yes, my last name is Scruton" Scruton) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 20:06:48 -0500 Subject: BOCism and black and white anthology shows Message-ID: Just watched a superlative Twilight Zone episode where Burgess Meredith played the devil and tried to get the soul of a struggling newpaper editor. Name of the episode was: Printer's Devil (echoes of Sinful Love splashed across the neurons) Not being a pidgeon, Jason From skarsol at EROLS.COM Thu Oct 17 17:03:51 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:03:51 +0000 Subject: HW: hawkfairies cd Message-ID: hi. just bought hawkfairies cd for thirty bucks,and wish i'd saved the thirty bucks for bathroom tissue. its a much better application. this cd is right up there with yuri,for me. sound quality is slightly above 'mud', nik sounds like shit. there is some killer guitarwork on there, its only saving factor. still, i will never listen again. rj From vlegrand at PROLOG.NET Thu Oct 17 21:08:36 1996 From: vlegrand at PROLOG.NET (Vince LeGrand) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:08:36 -0400 Subject: CYM & SA crazy prices (was NTSC LiS Rumor) Message-ID: I ordered CYM and SA through my local CD shop (in Stroudsburg Pennsylvania...not exactly a major metropolitan area) and received them in about 2 weeks. Price was $12.99 each. According to the guy who owns the store, his distributer had to special order them from the manufacturer. ---------- From: Craig A. Shipley[SMTP:craigs at pyramid.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 1996 6:57 PM To: 'BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List' Subject: HW: RE: CYM & SA crazy prices (was NTSC LiS Rumor) ---------- From: cjohnson[SMTP:cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 1996 6:46 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: HW: Love is Space NTSC rumor I also noted that a number of advertisers in the latest Goldmine are offering copies of the new SA and CYM for $20-30 each. I assume that these are imports. USA customers remember that these are available domestically for reasonable $12-15 prices! Don't spend too much money for an identical CD... Roger that, mein Kapitan! RPM has 'em at the same twenty bucks a smack; I passed on 'em. Wonder if it's just greed or there is a problem with the domestic supply and these mugs are really having to bring these in from the Great White North. If this is the case, jeez, guys, it's CANADA that they are coming from, it's not like you have to fly 'em over the Pond or something! And the Canadian buck is less than ours, so what gives?!? :-). Anyone seen 'em at Best Buy yet? (Not here in Atlanta, at least as far as last Thursday was concerned). Haven't found 'em in any of the local stores yet, but I haven't been looking real hard, either. Then, there is always the trip back up to DC next month to see the relatives (Tower Records, Of Sound Mind, Phantasmagoria, my AmEx is getting soft just thinking about it...) objBOC: I got a BOC T-shirt, too. Don't have no HW one. Score one for BOC! Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com Captain Cloud cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com ObBolleReference: "Don't Be a Sheep - Baa Baa Baa Baa" ;-) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2843 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM Thu Oct 17 21:16:19 1996 From: stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM (William Stone) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:16:19 -0700 Subject: OFF: displaying picture discs Message-ID: You wrote: > > I just tracked down a copy of the last HW picture disc for my > collection (12" only, no little guys). I am now trying to > determine the best way to display these critters on my wall. > > Does anyone have any recommendations on what to use for a display > frame? I have vinyl hangers that snap together. You can hang up to something like 12 lps together, or use them separately. I've got my Holy Trinity of Glasonbury Fayre and the 2 Greasy Truckers lps on the wall and they look good. Nice thing is that they can be easily removed for use. I've got plenty of the things around if you're interested... Wylie From stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM Thu Oct 17 21:26:43 1996 From: stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM (William Stone) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:26:43 -0700 Subject: OFF: Jane? Message-ID: > >>Is this a 'space-rock' band? They are mentioned on the DarXtar pages and >>in the HW: Caution :) post awhile back..... or did I misunderstand >>something? > >German space rock / kraut rock. If you like Eloy, Nektar, Grobschnitt, >Hawkwind, you should at least listen to a couple of albums. I am not too >familiar with them but there's 'Air Fire Water Earth' (not sure about the >sequence, though) and a live album which seems to be pretty good. I heard >about a reunion, but I am not sure. > Live '89 was the reunion effort. Not too great. A limited discography: Together - kinda bluesy, not as Floydian. The only one with a decent singer. Fire Water Earth & Air Jane III - Their most common, fairly easy to find on Canadian label Live at Home - My fave, much sloppy guitar noodling, horrific vox. Lady Age of Madness - fairly weak attempt at prog, heavier on the keys than the others Live '89 I don't know why but I've always had a soft spot for these guys. Maybe it's because the Krautrock Purists seem to disregard them utterly. Wylie From gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU Thu Oct 17 20:30:39 1996 From: gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU (Guido Vacano) Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 20:30:39 -0400 Subject: HW: CYM and SA Message-ID: Hello-- Choose Your Masques and Sonic Attack are available for $15 and change from cdconnection.com (whom I turn to when I can't find a particular aural tidbit in this backwater town). I just ordered them, along with Love in Space which I've never seen here. Also, SKARSOL (rj?) said his Hawkfairies CD was a big waste of money. I probably have one CD which is an even bigger waste of money. It's a black covered thing by one Keiji Haino (looks like it's called _Argon_). If you want 60 uninterrupted minutes of distorted, toneless guitar accompanied by various random vocalizations, then this is your disc. :-P :-) It's MUCH worse than _Text of Festival_ (though the production values are a lot better). Are there any John Zorn fans out there? Guido -- If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse From martynl at FUJITSU.COM.AU Fri Oct 18 13:15:43 1996 From: martynl at FUJITSU.COM.AU (Martyn Lawrence) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:15:43 EST Subject: In defense of Bolle In-Reply-To: ; from "Andrew Gilham" at Oct 18, 96 10:30:05 pm Message-ID: > > >Dave wore a BOC t-shirt on stage at Hammersmith Odeon in '78 or '79. > >Either Vardis or Doll-by-Doll were supporting... > > Then it'd have to be '79 (Doll by Doll), 'cause '78 was Patrik FitzGerald, and > Vardis was '80. And wasn't it a Mirrors shirt????? - BOC had just played four > nights at Hammersmith a month or so earlier on that tour. > > DbD had a fight or something, though, and there was a different (better) > support at Ipswich a couple days later. > > - Andy > Well from memory 1977 - Bethnal 1978 - Patrik Fitzgerald/Somebody else Pf was support @ Portsmouth,but later @reading someone else. 1979 Doll BY Doll 1980 Vardis 1981 Mama's boys 1982 Baron Rojo This list is most probably incorrect,since after seeing doll by doll I didn't care much for support bands at Hawk gigs,except for the Ozrics which I missed,as I thought they would be support on all the tour not just the first date :-( and anyway there was more fun to be had in the pub seeing how pissed huwey was. btw anyone remember Marseille - they were bloody loud for a support band. regards Marty(finally back home in the land of Oz) p.s Sonique I will call you From mordru at MAGG.NET Fri Oct 18 00:04:04 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 00:04:04 -0400 Subject: OFF: Supernatural Fairy Tales Message-ID: >>Supernatural Fairy Tales: The Progressive Rock Era >>Rhino Records, R2 722451. 5 CD Set. > >On the fourth disc: > >>Questions and Answers by "Nektar" > >WHAT IS THIS?!?!?!?!?! Sorry for yelling, but that is what I did. A big >Nektar fan here is shaking behind his screen. >Could you please give me all the info you have on this track? Er, even >lyrics! (Just the chorus would be great.) Well, I could see what the notes say about the track: Nektar background skipped... Their third album, "Remember The Future", was one long concepgtual work that effortlessly combined ethereal keyboard passages with soaring guitar solos. 'Questions and Answers' is an excerpt from that album that shows off Nektar's forte: strong melodic composition and tight instrumental playing. The track runs for 5:07. Starts off with some light guitar, voices in the background. I'll take a stab at lyrics, it goes slowly enough to type to... I can see far when I look into your eyes I can sense it all when I look into your skies I can see, oh, I can feel, you want me and that's the way it has to be you want me I can feel it, oh when I look behind your smile I can hear it, oh, when I look behind your mind I can sense, oh, I can feel you want me and that's the way it it's always been you want me aaahhh, what do you see wwweeeellllll what do you feel I feel everything I see light I see stars and I can barely(?) think weeellll, the ? what have you seen I've been everywhere I've seen all around and I can ?? It's hard to get the last bit, but that should hopefully be enough... =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri Oct 18 02:20:37 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 14:20:37 +0800 Subject: HW: cover songs Message-ID: I was just wondering whether "The Iron Dream" may be a cover? I remember watching A children's puppet show from Japan called "Star Fleet." There was a scene in one episode featuring a battle with "The Iron Dream" being performed by someone else in the background. The series was made after "Quark..." came out, however, I was thinking that it could be a reworking of an old classical piece (ala ELP, Rainbow, etc..) On the subject of CD Videos, has anything else by HW been released, or being released, in this format? It would also be interesting to see them released in Enhanced CD format, that way fans without the facility would at least have a live CD! "Love in Space" could have been done in this format, since the video is the same (I think) as the CD. It is the same tracks, whether they are from the same concert I'm not too sure? The same goes for the other video releases. What song are HW playing on "The Final Programme" soundtrack? You can just about see them briefly in the scene at the nightclub. Are there any HW MIDI files out there on the net? William From mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK Fri Oct 18 08:37:39 1996 From: mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK (Mike Parkington) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 08:37:39 +-100 Subject: Off trivia Message-ID: Ok Mr Cloud, If you think that is trivial, try this. My auto spell checker keeps trying to change Hawkwind to hawkweed. What is hawkweed, is this a bit like Pinkwind? Mike P. ---------- From: cjohnson[SMTP:cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 1996 11:02 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: HW: Spiral Reamls (!) I was just staring at the stack of CDs next to my workstation, and noticed that the binder of my new copy of Spiral Realms "Solar Wind" has a major typo. It is clearly labelled "SPIRAL REAMLS"! (This is actually printed on a 2-inch-wide sticker running the length of the jewel case binding.) Just some low-grade Hawk-trivia to pass the afternoon... 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Sorry for yelling, but that is what I did. A big >Nektar fan here is shaking behind his screen. >Could you please give me all the info you have on this track? Er, even >lyrics! (Just the chorus would be great.) 'Questions & Answers' is a section from side 2 of 'Remember The Future'. I've seen two different covers in circulation for RTF - one which just credits 2 tracks - RTF Part 1 and RTF Part 2, another which breaks these pieces down into (I think) 4 and 6 individual pieces respectively. I don't recall all the individual titles (and, funnily enough, I don't keep a copy of the album at work!) but one segment of part 2 is called 'Path Of Light'. It's so long since I listened to this album that I couldn't possibly quote any lyrics, but I'm sure you know RTF inside out so you'll be familiar with the section. Hope this puts your mind at rest! Dave B From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Fri Oct 18 03:39:50 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 07:39:50 UT Subject: CYM and SA Message-ID: Guido asked > Are there any John Zorn fans out there? Of course! I've by no means heard his entire output - he's very prolific, isn't he!, and you don't exactly hear him on the radio - but the first Naked City, and the News for Lulu album, are excellent. Caught Naked City live in London back in '89, and they were terrific! - Andy From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Fri Oct 18 09:45:07 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:45:07 BST Subject: OFF: displaying picture discs In-Reply-To: Johan Edlundh's message of Thu, 17 Oct 1996 20:24:44 +0200 Message-ID: Johan Edlundh writes: > At 17:54 1996-10-16 EST, you wrote: > > I just tracked down a copy of the last HW picture disc for my > > collection (12" only, no little guys). I am now trying to > > determine the best way to display these critters on my wall. > > > > Does anyone have any recommendations on what to use for a display > > frame? I'll evaluate any reasonably priced products that someone > > is willing to vouch for, but I'm also interested in any creative > > methods (particularly if they are cheap :-). Or _is_ there anybody > > out there hanging this kind of stuff on their walls? > > I use a Sabbath/Paranoid pic disc as a clock - I feel pubertal every time I > see it :0) > > > > My current Kollection contains 8 LP picture discs: > > - Acid Daze 1, 2, 3 > > - 3 from Official LogBook (Stonehenge, CotBS, O&I) > > - Zones > > - first album (this is the one I just ordered) > > > > Any 12-inchers missing from this list? > > > got a note Xenon Codex was released as a pic disc, but this is unconfirmed > and probably not true. Only as a pic CD. > isn't your Acid Dazers released as the original Samurai Anthology? (as in > the Approved History of triple LP set) > > > and AFAIK those are the only pic 7":ers - in various mispresses: > > Silver Machine / Seven by Seven (Doremi/Warrior pic disc) > Silver Machine x 2 / Psychedelic Warlords (10th anniversary pic disc) > Silver Machine / Magnu (shaped motorcycle pic disc) > > > but the best looking pic disc in the family must be the Brock - Social > Alliance / Raping Robots in the Streets 7" (pic is taken from the Earthed to > the Ground album, but fits much better on a circular format - a masterpiece > if you're a layout nerd...) I'm really bummed that Blake's New Jerusalem wasn't realeased as pic vinyl with the natty psychedelic piccy from the back cover on it. Mike "Life's Just Not Perfect" Holmes From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Fri Oct 18 09:46:08 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:46:08 BST Subject: HW: cover songs - LIST In-Reply-To: Bernhard Pospiech's message of Thu, 17 Oct 1996 18:03:10 +0100 Message-ID: Bernhard Pospiech writes: > At 10:13 17.10.96 +0100, you wrote: > > >Are you sure this last one isn't Huw's song 'Got Your Number' which HW > >played for a while around '84? > > Sorry, my fault. Of course it's GOT YOUR NUMBER. > > > cheers > Bernhard Of course we forgot the time Hawkwind did a cover of Abba's "Fernando". FoFP ;-) From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Fri Oct 18 09:47:43 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 09:47:43 BST Subject: HW: hawkfairies cd In-Reply-To: SKARSOL's message of Thu, 17 Oct 1996 21:03:51 +0000 Message-ID: SKARSOL writes: > hi. just bought hawkfairies cd for thirty bucks,and wish i'd > saved the thirty bucks for bathroom tissue. its a much better > application. > this cd is right up there with yuri,for me. sound quality is slightly > above 'mud', nik sounds like shit. > there is some killer guitarwork on there, its only saving factor. > still, i will never listen again. rj It's the only one so far that I've actually drawn the line about buying. FoFP From D.K.Hardman at CITY.AC.UK Fri Oct 18 07:08:21 1996 From: D.K.Hardman at CITY.AC.UK (Hardman DK) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:08:21 +0100 Subject: Halloween & BOC In-Reply-To: <337403@BoysTown.ORG> Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Oct 1996, DAVID FURST wrote: > ..and now for something completely different....Just a comment on the season > and halloween coming up. I've always thought that boc made the best halloween > type of rock n roll ever. Indian summer died here last night and now the sky > hangs low and gray and cold, shrouding the remaining harvest yet to be had. Yup, BOC is great music for Halloween. But, must give a mention to the track "Halloween" by the (now-defunct) Dream Syndicate. Forget what album it's on, but it was one of their best tracks. Dave ObCD: Kula Shaker K ****************************************************************************** Dave Hardman Phone: +44 0171 477 8000 x4540 Department of Psychology Fax: +44 0171 477 8581 City University Northampton Square London EC1V 0HB ***************************************************************************** From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Thu Oct 17 19:34:02 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:34:02 +1100 Subject: HW: Final Program, CD-I, & MIDI files Message-ID: William Duffy wrote: > > On the subject of CD Videos, has anything else by HW been released, or > being released, in this format? > It would also be interesting to see them released in Enhanced CD format, > that way fans without the facility would at least have a live CD! "Love > in Space" could have been done in this format, since the video is the > same (I think) as the CD. It is the same tracks, whether they are from > the same concert I'm not too sure? The same goes for the other video > releases. > > What song are HW playing on "The Final Programme" soundtrack? You can > just about see them briefly in the scene at the nightclub. > > Are there any HW MIDI files out there on the net? > > William WOW! Is there a soundtrack for this film? I never knew! Do HW actualy feature in the film, or is it just their music? I haven't seen the film for about three years and am kicking myself that I didn't dub it when I had the opportunity. -Max From C.D.Bates at SHU.AC.UK Fri Oct 18 08:59:44 1996 From: C.D.Bates at SHU.AC.UK (Chris Bates) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 13:59:44 +0100 Subject: In de fence of Bolle and the yard of BOC-L, there are squids Message-ID: Troy wrote: On Wed, 16 Oct 1996, Andrew Gilham wrote: > > For no particular reason, I'm reminded of the Newcastle United fan who had a > > picture of Andy Cole tattooed on his arm - about a week before he was > > transferred to Manchester United... the follies of being a "true believer", I > > guess. > > David Hirst I could understand. Hmmmm.... I've been of BOC-L for a few weeks changing job and when I come back I see this rubbish. Bah Humbug, David Hirst indeed. I assume we're talking the Sheffield Wednesday *striker* here? Mr Permanent Injury? Get a tattoo of him and he'd be out injured 3 times whilst the artists was just completing the outline. Oops no BOC-L content at all, I'll try and do better in future. Chris Bates From C.D.Bates at SHU.AC.UK Fri Oct 18 09:17:05 1996 From: C.D.Bates at SHU.AC.UK (Chris Bates) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 14:17:05 +0100 Subject: In defense of Bolle Message-ID: Martyn Lawrence wrote of HW support acts: > Well from memory 1977 - Bethnal > 1978 - Patrik Fitzgerald/Somebody else > Pf was support @ Portsmouth,but > later @reading someone else. > 1979 Doll BY Doll > 1980 Vardis Awful. Truly awful. Weren't they from the north east? I always sort of associate them with Venom, don't know why. Best thing about 'em was that the guitarist put talc in his hair and would shake it out in a big cloud at the start of the set. This was moderately effective indoors but totally useless when they supported Motorhead at an all dayer at the Port Vale ground. > 1981 Mama's boys > 1982 Baron Rojo Now if Vardis were awful, then this lot made me ashamed to be a heavy metal fan. I wonder what I would have said if anyone had said to me: *that Baron Rojo are a heavy metal band aren't they? How can you like that stuff?* Could I, I wonder, legitimately have claimed that they were excused by dint of being Spanish? Maybe just as the French are unable to Rock and Roll (allegedly), maybe the Spanish can't.... Ah, but my Euroscepticism must fall apart, for what of Judas Priest or Witchfynder General (album on red vinyl, cover of woman being ravaged in churchyard if memory serves, music of no notable value!)? Chris Bates From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri Oct 18 10:55:15 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 22:55:15 +0800 Subject: HW: Final Program, CD-I, & MIDI files Message-ID: Max Wilcox wrote: > > William Duffy wrote: > > > > > > What song are HW playing on "The Final Programme" soundtrack? You can > > just about see them briefly in the scene at the nightclub. > WOW! Is there a soundtrack for this film? I never knew! Do HW actualy > feature in the film, or is it just their music? I haven't seen the film > for about three years and am kicking myself that I didn't dub it when I > had the opportunity. > -Max I seem to remember reading an interview with Michael Moorcock in an SF mag. on the making of the film, where he states that that is HW in there. I read somewhere else that the piece of music wasn't available elsewhere. I have the movie on video, I'll look at it again to see if I can recognise the tune? From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Fri Oct 18 11:28:02 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 17:28:02 +0200 Subject: HW: cover songs - LIST Message-ID: > >Of course we forgot the time Hawkwind did a cover of Abba's "Fernando". > >FoFP ;-) > > Gaaah! If this is true -when? where? WHY!?!?!?! -Daniel Wikdahl . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Fri Oct 18 11:54:33 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:54:33 -0400 Subject: HW: cover songs - LIST Message-ID: >> >>Of course we forgot the time Hawkwind did a cover of Abba's "Fernando". >> >>FoFP ;-) >> >> > Gaaah! If this is true -when? where? WHY!?!?!?! > > -Daniel Wikdahl Wasn't this during the 1977 tour of Latvia when they were back-up band for the Bay City Rollers. This was during the brief HW line-up when Donny and Marie Osmond were doing vocals. Unfortunately, they both had to leave for alleged drug problems Martyn ;-) From cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Fri Oct 18 12:59:13 1996 From: cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 11:59:13 EST Subject: OFF: displaying picture disks Message-ID: > isn't your Acid Dazers released as the original Samurai Anthology? (as in > the Approved History of triple LP set) Actually, my "Acid Daze" 3LP box set contained _black_ vinyl only, plus of course the booklet. I purchased my 3 pic disk copies of the same LPs by mail from some re-seller somewhere. I am not aware of any copies of "Acid Daze" 3LP boxset that contained pic disk vinyl. I thought that the pic disks were released later, and separately from each other. Confirmation anyone? A local store owner has hundreds of pic disks of all sizes hanging on his walls with only a thumbtack through the middle hole of each. This makes me cringe when I see the amount of dust built up on the 3 Acid Daze pic disks that _he_ has up there. Disliking his display is part of what prompted me to inquire on BOCL about hanging pic disks. (He also refuses to sell them to me every time I inquire -- and him not even a Hawk-fan!) :-( > got a note Xenon Codex was released as a pic disc, but this is unconfirmed > and probably not true. And "Xenon Codex" was only released as a pic disk on _CD_, by GWR (of which I also have a copy). > I have vinyl hangers that snap together. You can hang up to > something like 12 lps together, or use them separately. I've got my > Holy Trinity of Glasonbury Fayre and the 2 Greasy Truckers lps on the > wall and they look good. Nice thing is that they can be easily removed > for use. I've got plenty of the things around if you're interested... > Wylie Wylie, I'm interested. :-) Can you describe them in a little more detail for me? Also, how about price (I assume Bananamoon is selling them?) Wait-a-sec: are these for displaying the LP-cover, or the LP itself? (I'm still interested either way) Captain Cloud cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com PS: Yuri, my mail to you bounced. Please send me your street address. I am still trying to send you a photocopy of the "Approved History". From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Fri Oct 18 12:19:52 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 00:19:52 +0800 Subject: OFF: displaying picture disks Message-ID: > Actually, my "Acid Daze" 3LP box set contained _black_ vinyl only, > plus of course the booklet. I purchased my 3 pic disk copies > of the same LPs by mail from some re-seller somewhere. > > I am not aware of any copies of "Acid Daze" 3LP boxset that contained > pic disk vinyl. I thought that the pic disks were released later, > and separately from each other. Confirmation anyone? > PS: Yuri, my mail to you bounced. Please send me your street address. > I am still trying to send you a photocopy of the "Approved History". To everyone My "Approved History" set was released as colour picture disks. As it claims to be a limited edition, maybe only so many were printed in colour. Or maybe there is confusion between the "Acid Daze" & "Approved History (Anthology)" sets, as they are the same, just different titles! William From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Fri Oct 18 18:04:40 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 18:04:40 BST Subject: OFF: displaying picture disks In-Reply-To: William Duffy's message of Sat, 19 Oct 1996 00:19:52 +0800 Message-ID: William Duffy writes: > > Actually, my "Acid Daze" 3LP box set contained _black_ vinyl only, > > plus of course the booklet. I purchased my 3 pic disk copies > > of the same LPs by mail from some re-seller somewhere. > > > > I am not aware of any copies of "Acid Daze" 3LP boxset that contained > > pic disk vinyl. I thought that the pic disks were released later, > > and separately from each other. Confirmation anyone? > > PS: Yuri, my mail to you bounced. Please send me your street address. > > I am still trying to send you a photocopy of the "Approved History". > > To everyone > > My "Approved History" set was released as colour picture disks. As it > claims to be a limited edition, maybe only so many were printed in > colour. Or maybe there is confusion between the "Acid Daze" & "Approved > History (Anthology)" sets, as they are the same, just different titles! > The sequence is (I think): Anthology 1, Anthology 2, Anthology 3 - all black vinyl released (if memory serves me right) by Samurai Approved History of Hawkwind - Anthology 1,2 and 3 released as pic. discs using the cover art from the album covers. They came as a package in a blue plastic album together with a booklet written by Brian Tawn. Anthology 1 and 2 CDs (Anthology 2 contains a mixture of albums 2 and 3) Acid Daze 1,2, and 3 - a black vinyl re-release of Anthology 1,2 and 3 with different album sleeves. Acid Daze box set - Acid Daze 1,2 and 3 black vinyl albums released as a box set together with a reissue of Brian Tawn's booklet Acid Daze double CD containing all the tracks from Acid Daze 1,2 and 3 Anthology 1,2 and 3 pic discs released separately without the blue plastic album or the booklet. Anthology 1,2 and 3 CDs now released with all the tracks from each original album. I think that's the lot 8-) jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Oct 18 05:20:21 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:20:21 +0100 Subject: OFF : CD Waste of Money In-Reply-To: <9610180030.AA16836@beaver.mbb.wesleyan.edu> Message-ID: In message <9610180030.AA16836 at beaver.mbb.wesleyan.edu>, Guido Vacano writes >I probably have one CD which is an even bigger waste of money. >It's a black covered thing by one Keiji Haino (looks like it's called >_Argon_). If you want 60 uninterrupted minutes of distorted, toneless >guitar accompanied by various random vocalizations, then this is your >disc. :-P :-) It's MUCH worse than _Text of Festival_ (though the >production values are a lot better). Got anything by Pete Namlook on his Fax label? He puts out more ambient/techno records in three months than the Hawks do in two decades. Except it's largely cack! One particlar ambient effort I bought is about an hour of a piano playing one note every 45 seconds or so.............. ................................................................. ................................................................. ........................................................................ ................................................................. ..................................etc! No matter how ripped I am, it still stinks! -- Jon Browne From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Fri Oct 18 19:03:29 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:03:29 BST Subject: HW: Vardis In-Reply-To: Chris Bates's message of Fri, 18 Oct 1996 14:17:05 +0100 Message-ID: Chris Bates writes: > > 1980 Vardis > > Awful. Truly awful. Weren't they from the north east? I always sort > of associate them with Venom, don't know why. Best thing about 'em > was that the guitarist put talc in his hair and would shake it out in > a big cloud at the start of the set. They did however do a moderately good cover version of Silver Machine which was released as a 7". jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Oct 18 05:05:00 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:05:00 +0100 Subject: HW : Hammersmith supports '79, '80 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Andrew Gilham writes >>Dave wore a BOC t-shirt on stage at Hammersmith Odeon in '78 or '79. >>Either Vardis or Doll-by-Doll were supporting... > >Then it'd have to be '79 (Doll by Doll), 'cause '78 was Patrik FitzGerald, and >Vardis was '80. And wasn't it a Mirrors shirt????? - BOC had just played four >nights at Hammersmith a month or so earlier on that tour. > >DbD had a fight or something, though, and there was a different (better) >support at Ipswich a couple days later. > >- Andy I remember DbD and Vardis getting *the* worst treatment I've seen of a support except Cardiacs doing the Marillion tour, (I hasten to add, I was there for the Cardiacs.) Evidently in those days, one showed just how much you loved the Hawks by telling the support how shit they were and chanting "Hawkwind" all the way through their set as if that would speed Hawkwind's arrival on stage or give Dave a warm glow when he saw how dedicated the fans were :) DbD walked off stage I remember. Vardis, a year later, took even more abuse but Steve Zodiac got one of the biggest cheers of the night when he said something like "You can shout all you like, we're not going fuckin' anywhere. We're not Doll by Doll!" -- Jon Browne From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Fri Oct 18 14:13:19 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 14:13:19 -0400 Subject: OFF: Jungle Message-ID: I just started reading "Ecstacy" by Irvine Welsh. A reference is made to a type of music called Jungle. Has anyone heard of this? Is it psychedelic? Martyn From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Fri Oct 18 05:26:39 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:26:39 +0100 Subject: Off trivia In-Reply-To: <01BBBCCF.A00ED780@dhcp-16.tadpole.co.uk> Message-ID: In message <01BBBCCF.A00ED780 at dhcp-16.tadpole.co.uk>, Mike Parkington writes >Ok Mr Cloud, If you think that is trivial, try this. My auto spell checker >keeps trying to change Hawkwind to hawkweed. What is hawkweed, is this a >bit like Pinkwind? > >Mike P. Hawkweed, hmmm, my guess is it would "Dave's Private Reserve" or something similar :) If your ever offered any, I'd be interested :)))) -- Jon Browne From delacour at UNM.EDU Fri Oct 18 14:44:01 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 12:44:01 -0600 Subject: OFF; Greg Scott In-Reply-To: Message-ID: BOC-L; Relaying to you the following; It was good to hear from some of you BOC fans. Always looking forward to hearing from you, but I don't have a computer as of yet. Call for BOC stor- ies or just to sat hello. Greg Scott, BOC cover artist for FOUO, ETL & RBN (505) 294-4063 Greg Scott Gallery Manuel Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Fri Oct 18 15:12:37 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 21:12:37 +0200 Subject: OFF: displaying picture disks Message-ID: this is my Anthology Daze notes: 1985/11 LP Anthology Vol. I (Samurai) 1986/5 CD Anthology Vol. I (Samurai) 1986/6 LP Anthology Vol. II (Samurai) 1986/6 CD Anthology Vol. II (Samurai) 1986/6 LP Anthology Vol. III (Samurai) [at this time I was still a *happy* kollektor] 1986/11 pLP Anthology Vol. I (Samurai) 1986/11 pLP Anthology Vol. II (Samurai) 1986/11 pLP Anthology Vol. III (Samurai) 1986/11 3pLP The Approved History of Hawkwind (Samurai) 1990/4 LP Acid Daze Volume 1 (Receiver) 1990/4 LP Acid Daze Volume II (Receiver) 1990/4 LP Acid Daze Volume 3 (Receiver) 1990/4 3LP Acid Daze, The History of Hawkwind (Receiver) 1990/4 2CD Acid Daze, The History of Hawkwind (Receiver) 1993/7 CD Acid Daze Volume 1 (Receiver) 1993/7 CD Acid Daze Volume II (Receiver) 1993/9 CD Acid Daze Volume 3 (Receiver) sorry, don't have any notes of the Acid Dace pic disks (but I *think* I *do* remember them now..?) anyone knows any release dates? catalouge numbers? if you do like those tracks, you can continue with collecting the following collections of the above tracks, but in different running order - and sometimes mixed with a few Levitation tunes... 1986/10 2LP/CD The Hawkwind Collection (Castle) 1987/11 LP/CD British Tribal Music (Start) 1989/3 CD Ironstrike (Avanti) Lev 1990/4 2LP/CD Castle Masters Collection (Castle) 1990 CD The Best of & the Rest of Hawkwind Live (Action Replay) 1990 CD Night Riding (Knight) Lev 1991/10 CD Masters of the Universe (Marble Arch) Lev 1991/10 CD Spirit of The Age (Elite) Lev 1991/12 3CD Anthology (Castle/Ess!) see * 1994/2 CD The Best of Hawkwind (Castle) 1994/12 CD Silver Machine (Spectrum) Lev 1995/10 CD Space is Deep (Receiver) Lev *) The first CD of the 3CD Anthology set is taken from the Samurai Anthology And when you're already warmed up, don't forget these: 1986/7 12" Silver Machine (Samurai) 1986/7 7" Silver Machine / Magnu (Samurai) 1986/7 p7" Silver Machine / Magnu (Samurai) 1990/12 12" The Early Years Live EP (Receiver) \\joe From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Fri Oct 18 15:13:35 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 15:13:35 -0400 Subject: Jungle Message-ID: I haven't heard any "jungle" music, although a review of ex-BeBop Deluxe frontman Bill Nelson's latest release "AFTER THE SATELLITE SINGS" stated that Nelson has apparently embraced "jungle" in a big way. As Nelson wields a nasty synth, along with his axe, I would suspect that the music uses a lot of both. Probably has a lot of "urban contemporary" influence... obCDPlayer: Mastermind IV: Until Eternity. Killer guitar-synth work-out from probably the best prog-band in the US! (On deck; Vol. III and the remastered/bonus tracks Vol. I; helluva sale on Master- mind at M&M Music and a three-day delivery, free!! Mastermind is on special this week!) Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com ---------- From: Martyn White[SMTP:white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU] Sent: Friday, October 18, 1996 2:13 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: OFF: Jungle I just started reading "Ecstacy" by Irvine Welsh. A reference is made to a type of music called Jungle. Has anyone heard of this? Is it psychedelic? Martyn -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2010 bytes Desc: not available URL: From shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM Fri Oct 18 20:26:27 1996 From: shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM (shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:26:27 BST Subject: OFF Jungle Message-ID: I may be ignorant about this, but I always thought "jungle" was heavy bass & drum driven dance music. Neil. From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Fri Oct 18 16:31:11 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 15:31:11 EST Subject: OFF Jungle Message-ID: > > I may be ignorant about this, but I always thought "jungle" was heavy bass & drum driven dance music. > > Neil. I was thinking maybe they meant the kind of African stuff that Paul Simon likes? theo From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Fri Oct 18 15:35:33 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 15:35:33 -0400 Subject: HW: WorldwideCD@aol.com? Message-ID: I'm putzing around with the new Microsoft Explorer and came across this vendor. Big claim to fame is that they carry the full Griffin line. As I haven't got my copies yet, I was gonna try these guys. Any experiences, good or bad? (Personal to Wylie; Checks' going out Monday, so don't think I forgot you...) Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Fri Oct 18 16:10:48 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 22:10:48 +0200 Subject: Both: Covers Message-ID: found this when browsing around - haven't followed the BOC cover threads so close, but there's a Hijokaidan cover that has *not* been mentioned here before. what is Hijokaidan? \\joe -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From DwightG at nesbbx.rain.com (Dwight Gruber) Organization NES, Inc. Date Sat, 12 Oct 96 19:12:44 PST Newsgroups rec.music.industrial Message-ID Industrial Cover List Part 3 of 3 __________________________________________________________________________ This list is Part 3, the Industrial Cover list sorted by original group. I won't repeat everything from the ilist introduction; you'll find it at the the head of the List Part 1. __________________________________________________________________________ Blue Oyster Cult, "Dominance and Submission" - BiGod 20 "The Summer Of Love" Current - 93 "Don't Fear The Reaper" - Clint Ruin & Lydia Lunch Hawkwind, "Silver Machine" - Hijokaidan "The Right Stuff" - Pressurehead Motorhead, "Ace of Spades" - Killing Floor Pink Floyd, "Another Brick In The Wall" - A;Grumph - Controlled Bleeding "Echoes" - Alien Sex Fiend "On The Run" - DIN "Jugband Blues" - Eden "Lucifer Sam" - Electric Hellfire Club "A Saucerful of Secrets" - EXP "The Nile Song" - Farflung "Hey You" - Furnace "To Roger Waters, Wherever You Are" - Ron Geesin "Pigs On The Wing" - Helios Creed "Dogs of War" - Laibach "Learning To Fly" - Leaether Strip "Young Lust" - Penal Colony "Let There Be More Light" - Pressurehead "Set The Controls for the Heart of the Sun" - Psychic TV "Wots--Uh The Deal" - Sky Cries Mary "One Of These Days" - Spahn Ranch "Interstellar Overdrive" - Spiral Realms "Careful With That Axe, Eugene" - Nik Turner From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Fri Oct 18 15:04:18 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:04:18 UT Subject: HW : Hammersmith supports '79, '80 Message-ID: >I remember DbD and Vardis getting *the* worst treatment I've seen of a >support except Cardiacs doing the Marillion tour, (I hasten to add, I >was there for the Cardiacs.) Can't have been worse than Japan supporting Blue Oyster Cult in '78! - Andy From swann at MINDVOX.COM Fri Oct 18 20:38:43 1996 From: swann at MINDVOX.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:38:43 -0400 Subject: OFF : CD Waste of Money In-Reply-To: from "Jon Browne" at Oct 18, 96 10:20:21 am Message-ID: Jon Browne writes: > > Got anything by Pete Namlook on his Fax label? He puts out more > ambient/techno records in three months than the Hawks do in two decades. > Except it's largely cack! One particlar ambient effort I bought is about > an hour of a piano playing one note every 45 seconds or so.............. > ................................................................. > ................................................................. > ........................................................................ > ................................................................. > ..................................etc! > > No matter how ripped I am, it still stinks! This sort of reminds me of my undergrad days, when I discovered that my university had a music library (woo woo). I was in the mood at the time to discover more synth/ambient stuff like Jarre/Vangelis/TD/etc, so I asked them what they had in the way of electronic music. I was disappointed by the selection, but they did have a large number of tapes from the MIT "Experimental Music Lab". I thought *that* might be pretty cool... yeah right. ;-) It was pretty much exactly as you described above, except they occasionally left sine wave generators running to fill in the empty space between. Geeks just shouldn't be let near musical instruments, Robert Fripp notwithstanding. ;-) Steve swann at panix.com From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Sat Oct 19 13:03:48 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 13:03:48 GMT+0100 Subject: OFF Jungle Message-ID: > --On fre 18 okt 1996 20.26 wrote: > I may be ignorant about this, but I always thought "jungle" was heavy bass > & drum driven dance music. Yeah, having occasionally been exposed to sounds issusing from various college "bops" here at Cambridge with big signs outside them proclaiming the use of "Jungle" music, I can confirm that "Jungle" is yet another permutation of cheesoid dance music. I suppose the techno fans out there might find something in it. Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************* Carl Edlund Anderson "So that's Terra. Oohwee, cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk look out wenchlings, here http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html come the Hawklords." Dept. of ASNAC, University of Cambridge -Lord Lemmy (Hawkwind) ************************************************************************* From acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK Sat Oct 19 09:02:57 1996 From: acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK (Andy C) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 14:02:57 +0100 Subject: Both: Brock in Cult T-shirt Message-ID: Dave Brock can be seen sporting a Blue Oyster Cult T-shirt in the "Choose your masques" tour programme. The bottom of the page with the lyrics to "arrival in Utopia". Andy C From acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK Sat Oct 19 09:07:20 1996 From: acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK (Andy C) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 14:07:20 +0100 Subject: Both: Cats and Pigeons Message-ID: Heres a quote from the Grolier Interactive encylopedia, in an entire essay on Music and Science fiction this is the only mention of both bands. The authors have obviously no idea ! Andy C --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hawkwind, with whom Michael MOORCOCK was associated, built songs around stories by Roger ZELAZNY, Ray BRADBURY and others, introducing many sf archetypes, while Moorcock's own group, Deep Fix, recorded the uneven New World's Fair (1975). A better use of aggressively high-energy music with sf connotations can be found in the US group Blue Oyster Cult. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Sat Oct 19 09:36:16 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 23:36:16 +1000 Subject: Both: Cats and Pigeons In-Reply-To: <01BBBDC7.026D9C20@dialin3.dundee.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Sat, 19 Oct 1996, Andy C wrote: > Heres a quote from the Grolier Interactive encylopedia, in an entire > essay on Music and Science fiction this is the only mention > of both bands. The authors have obviously no idea ! > > Andy C > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Hawkwind, with whom Michael MOORCOCK was associated, built songs around stories by Roger ZELAZNY, Ray BRADBURY and others, introducing many sf archetypes,while Moorcock's own group, Deep Fix, recorded the uneven New World's Fair (1975). A better use of aggressively high-energy music with sf connotations can be found in the US group Blue Oyster Cult. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well. obviously no bias at all shown here. :) I can't make up my mind whether he is right or not. After all, BOC are not *entirely* sf oriented, but do indeed do it well. I suppose the only thing to say is - idiots should leave opinion out of a potentially good subject. I wonder what the lyrical content of the new BOC stuff will be oriented to? As long as it is not "oooh yeah baby the juice is running down my leg" (remember that quote fans?) lyrics a'la KISS, it should be fine. Troy ObCD- "Introduction to early music" - a Naxos Thingy. From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Oct 19 05:04:19 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 10:04:19 +0100 Subject: OFF Jungle In-Reply-To: <9610181926.AA17649@icarus.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> Message-ID: In message <9610181926.AA17649 at icarus.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com>, shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM writes >I may be ignorant about this, but I always thought "jungle" was heavy bass & >drum driven dance music. > >Neil. This is exactly what "jungle" is. It's worth pointing out that the "drum'n'bass" in question is synth/electronic, breakbeat techno, not bass guitar 'n' drum kit. Anyone interested should check LTJ Bukem's "Logical Progression" CD for some immediately accessible Jungle. Another excellent 2 x CD set is Goldie and the Metalheadz "Platinum Breakz" this isn't quite as driving and is little more ambiant, again a perfect point of entry. It's not particularly new though, The Prodigy did "Ruff inna Jungle" 5 or 6 six years ago. While jungle is playing listeners ("Junglists") are encouraged to shout "Comm down! Selecta! Reee-wind!" etc :0) Good jungle could honestly be said to have a fair BLANGA quotient and while being firmly in the techno/dance arena, it sounds more organic and warm than garage/house. -- Reee-wind! Jon Browne From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Oct 19 11:01:28 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 16:01:28 +0100 Subject: OFF Jungle In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Carl Edlund Anderson writes >I can confirm that "Jungle" is yet another >permutation of cheesoid dance music. I suppose the techno fans out there >might find something in it. > >Cheers, >Carl OY!! :) -- Jon Browne From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Sat Oct 19 11:22:00 1996 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 16:22:00 +0100 Subject: OFF: Zorn (was Re: CYM and SA) In-Reply-To: Andrew Gilham's mail of Fri, 18 Oct 96 07:39 +0000 Message-ID: > Guido asked > > Are there any John Zorn fans out there? and Andy replied > Of course! I've by no means heard his entire output - he's very prolific, > isn't he!, and you don't exactly hear him on the radio - but the first Naked > City, and the News for Lulu album, are excellent. Caught Naked City live in > London back in '89, and they were terrific! I agree, the first Naked City album is excellent! If you like the short (< 1 minute long) tracks on that album, it's also worth tracking down either Torture Garden, which is 42 tracks in the same ilk; or their third album, the name of which escapes me, which includes most of Torture Garden along with reworkings of some classical stuff. After that they get a bit variable. I have Heretic, which is mainly avant-garde-ish jazz. I've heard that Radio is along the lines of their first album. News For Lulu is entirely different, but also very good. I slightly prefer More News For Lulu, which is the same line-up doing the same sort of thing. Spy Vs. Spy is along the same lines. I highly recommend Spillane. The title track is a cut-up/pastiche tribute to Sam Spade style movie soundtracks, sort of similar in fashion to Naked City in that the music skips and jumps all over the place. Then there's a bluesy piece played and narrated by Albert Collins, and a piece played by the Kronos Quartet along with a turntable player and a Japanese vocalist. The Big Gundown is does a similar treatment to the film soundtracks of Ennio Morricone, and some people think that it's Zorn's best work. He's done lots of other stuff, including several "honk & squawk" type improvised jazz albums, such as Cobra, that don't do anything for me. Dave. j -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. Tel: +44 131 668 1564 From skarsol at EROLS.COM Sat Oct 19 07:57:10 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 11:57:10 +0000 Subject: HW: WorldwideCD@aol.com? Message-ID: Craig A. Shipley wrote: > > I'm putzing around with the new Microsoft Explorer and came across this vendor. Big claim to fame is that they carry the full Griffin line. As I haven't got my > > (Personal to Wylie; Checks' going out Monday, so don't think I forgot you...) > > Craig Shipley > craigs at pyramid.com ive dealt with them and have had no problems.once in person at a record show, and once in mailorder. rj From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Oct 19 12:18:05 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 00:18:05 +0800 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: I thought I'd jump back to a subject that caused quite a bit of controversy, and make a statement which will cause even more controversy. It is in regards to Michael Moorcock and his singing ability. Michael Moorcock is a better singer than Nik Turner. There! I've now set the cat among the pidgeons. William P.S. I think Mr. Moorcock would be an excellent choice to do Dalek voices! From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Fri Oct 18 23:59:09 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 14:59:09 +1100 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: William Duffy wrote: > > I thought I'd jump back to a subject that caused quite a bit of > controversy, and make a statement which will cause even more > controversy. > > It is in regards to Michael Moorcock and his singing ability. > > Michael Moorcock is a better singer than Nik Turner. > > There! I've now set the cat among the pidgeons. > > William > > P.S. I think Mr. Moorcock would be an excellent choice to do Dalek > voices! I'd agree, too, at least in some cases. I think each have their good and bad days. Some of the Moorcock demos for Brothel in Rossenstrasse and Entropy Tango etc were descidedly dodgy, but some were absolutely fantastic. Some Nik stuff I particularly dislike, such as "Prophits (profits) of Time", which is a horror. Absolutely all of New Worlds Fair I like, though MM doesn't sing all of it. I'm probably biased, though, as I'm a Moorcock fan (ie his books), so I'm bound to like it. All of the HW and related menmbers that I can think of have slightly wanting singing skills, though. Nik often shouts, rather than sings. Brock, well, he's just Brock. Tree...er...well, Captured Rotation was a bit better....just. The only exception to this would have to be Mr Bob Calvert. Who is God. -Max Wilcox From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Oct 19 13:32:58 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 01:32:58 +0800 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: Max Wilcox wrote: > > William Duffy wrote: > > > > I thought I'd jump back to a subject that caused quite a bit of > > controversy, and make a statement which will cause even more > > controversy. > > > > It is in regards to Michael Moorcock and his singing ability. > > > > Michael Moorcock is a better singer than Nik Turner. > > > > There! I've now set the cat among the pidgeons. > > > > William > > > > P.S. I think Mr. Moorcock would be an excellent choice to do Dalek > > voices! > > I'd agree, too, at least in some cases. I think each have their good > and bad days. Some of the Moorcock demos for Brothel in Rossenstrasse > and Entropy Tango etc were descidedly dodgy, but some were absolutely > fantastic. Some Nik stuff I particularly dislike, such as "Prophits > (profits) of Time", which is a horror. I would agree with all of the above as well. The recordings Nik made with HW were good, as well as all of his egyptian recordings Sphynx (he only speaks on the sequel) & Anubian Lights (he doesn't sing at all). However, the singing on his recent Nikwind recordings, "Space Ritual" & "Past & Future?" at times is appalling (ie "Kadu Flyer"). > All of the HW and related menmbers that I can think of have slightly > wanting singing skills, though. Nik often shouts, rather than sings. > Brock, well, he's just Brock. Tree...er...well, Captured Rotation was a > bit better....just. The only exception to this would have to be Mr Bob > Calvert. Who is God. > -Max Wilcox Ron Tree is a very good reincarnation of the wonderful Mr Calvert, I just hope people don't try to make comparisons. Mr Tree hasn't had much opportunity within the band as yet. On another subject, maybe Griffin could re-release "Hype" with the novel as well. I would also like to see the original "Making of Midgard" on CD. The version on the "Lucky Lief..." CD is pretty YUK, and does not have the wonderful atmosphere the original had! William Duffy From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Sat Oct 19 14:05:20 1996 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:05:20 +0100 Subject: HW : Hammersmith supports '79, '80 Message-ID: >>I remember DbD and Vardis getting *the* worst treatment I've seen of a >>support except Cardiacs doing the Marillion tour, (I hasten to add, I >>was there for the Cardiacs.) > >Can't have been worse than Japan supporting Blue Oyster Cult in '78! > >- Andy > Poor old Japan...they did a gig with the Damned once in their early days...that must've been a fun night out for the boys! From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Sat Oct 19 19:53:43 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:53:43 BST Subject: OFF: (was Re: HW : Hammersmith supports '79, '80) In-Reply-To: Andrew Gilham's message of Fri, 18 Oct 1996 19:04:18 UT Message-ID: Andrew Gilham writes: > >I remember DbD and Vardis getting *the* worst treatment I've seen of a > >support except Cardiacs doing the Marillion tour, (I hasten to add, I > >was there for the Cardiacs.) > > Can't have been worse than Japan supporting Blue Oyster Cult in '78! or the poor lass (Jane Serrie?) who was supporting Mike Oldfield at his massive openair concert on the esplanade of Edinburgh Castle. It was the cruellest treatment I've ever seen a crowd give someone. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Oct 19 15:11:46 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 03:11:46 +0800 Subject: OFF: (was Re: HW : Hammersmith supports '79, '80) Message-ID: J Strobridge wrote: > > Andrew Gilham writes: > > > >I remember DbD and Vardis getting *the* worst treatment I've seen of a > > >support except Cardiacs doing the Marillion tour, (I hasten to add, I > > >was there for the Cardiacs.) > > > > Can't have been worse than Japan supporting Blue Oyster Cult in '78! > > or the poor lass (Jane Serrie?) who was supporting Mike Oldfield at > his massive openair concert on the esplanade of Edinburgh Castle. It > was the cruellest treatment I've ever seen a crowd give someone. > > jill > > =========================================================================== > J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk > ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Or when I saw Andy Gibb (Bee Gees younger brother) as support for Deep Purple! Well, at least he deserved it. By the way, was it HW who once did a charity concert with Vera Lynn??? William From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Sat Oct 19 16:22:37 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:22:37 -0500 Subject: HW: cover songs - LIST Message-ID: On 18-OCT-1996 12:02:40.5 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >>> >>>Of course we forgot the time Hawkwind did a cover of Abba's >"Fernando". >> >>>FoFP ;-) >>> >>> >> Gaaah! If this is true -when? where? WHY!?!?!?! >> >> -Daniel Wikdahl >Wasn't this during the 1977 tour of Latvia when they were >back-up band for the Bay City Rollers. This was during the brief >HW line-up when Donny and Marie Osmond were doing vocals. >Unfortunately, they both had to leave for alleged drug problems >Martyn ;-) They also covered Arthur Browne's Kingdom Come in the song "Levitation", though no credit is given... :) Chuck `[1;30;41mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From skarsol at EROLS.COM Sat Oct 19 11:32:10 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 15:32:10 +0000 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: Max Wilcox wrote: > > William Duffy wrote: > > > > I thought I'd jump back to a subject that caused quite a bit of > > controversy, and make a statement which will cause even more > > controversy. > > > > It is in regards to Michael Moorcock and his singing ability. > > > > Michael Moorcock is a better singer than Nik Turner. > > > > There! I've now set the cat among the pidgeons. > > > > William > > > > P.S. I think Mr. Moorcock would be an excellent choice to do Dalek > > voices! > > I'd agree, too, at least in some cases. I think each have their good > and bad days. Some of the Moorcock demos for Brothel in Rossenstrasse > and Entropy Tango etc were descidedly dodgy, but some were absolutely > fantastic. Some Nik stuff I particularly dislike, such as "Prophits > (profits) of Time", which is a horror. > Absolutely all of New Worlds Fair I like, though MM doesn't sing all of > it. I'm probably biased, though, as I'm a Moorcock fan (ie his books), > so I'm bound to like it. > All of the HW and related menmbers that I can think of have slightly > wanting singing skills, though. Nik often shouts, rather than sings. > Brock, well, he's just Brock. Tree...er...well, Captured Rotation was a > bit better....just. The only exception to this would have to be Mr Bob > Calvert. Who is God. > -Max Wilcox whoa- there is nothing wrong with brocks voice-when hes not tour-worn. i can think of noone on the planet who i'd rather hear sing than brock. and calvert was incredible,but nine out of ten live gigs ive heard/seen, demonstrated very little in vocal talent.i mean,the talent was there, but perhaps it was something in his lifestyle,but his voice cracked incessantly. From jguizar at EPIX.NET Sat Oct 19 16:03:31 1996 From: jguizar at EPIX.NET (Jerry Guizar) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 16:03:31 -0400 Subject: Chronicles CD Video In-Reply-To: <326469B9.7A2A@erols.com> Message-ID: In <326469B9.7A2A at erols.com>, on 10/16/96 at 04:51 AM, SKARSOL said: >William Duffy wrote: >> I am also curious about some other video recordings? I have all the >> Jettisounds videos as well as "Live Legends" & the bootleg (or should >> that be "Weird Video?") from the "Choose Your Masques" Tour. Are any >> other videos I have seen listed Official? And also where can I get my >> hands on them (both Official & Unofficial?) >there are lots more official vids, i think, but ya gotta contact hawk >merch., and then convert them from pal (unless thats what you use,of >course). a cd store nearby (pennsylvania), stocked the chaos video, but >when i took it up to the counter the clerk warned me it was in pal, so i >still havent seen it. rj Where in PA (I'm in NE)? I got a NTSC copy of chaos from Visionary - there was a discussion about the quality of the recording. It seems there's some bad copies out there and mine's one of them :( Jerry ----------------------------------------------------------- jguizar at epix.net ----------------------------------------------------------- From stayer at PI.NET Sat Oct 19 21:36:58 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:36:58 PDT Subject: OFF: silly lyrics Message-ID: Troy stated: >As long as it is not "oooh yeah baby the juice is running down my leg" >(remember that quote fans?) lyrics a'la KISS, it should be fine. Blues guitarist Robert Johnson recorded a song in 1937 including a line like that. It doesn't sound that silly when he's singing it... Jerry From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sat Oct 19 18:58:03 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 18:58:03 -0400 Subject: HW: WorldwideCD@aol.com? Message-ID: In a message dated 96-10-19 12:02:17 EDT, you write: >ive dealt with them and have had no problems.once in person at a record >show, and once in mailorder. rj > > I have dealt with with World Wide also, They are very reliable and nice people. The absolute best is DELTAWAVE in Dallas. The CEO of the company is Mike Coleman and he is both knowledgable and informative. He is always glad to chat and very entertaining. WRITE: DELTAWAVE 7716 Briaridge Rd. Dallas, TX 75248 USA or CALL: 214-991-6621 regards, Bill Stewart From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sat Oct 19 19:13:21 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:13:21 -0400 Subject: OFF: silly lyrics Message-ID: In a message dated 96-10-19 18:09:24 EDT, you write: >Blues guitarist Robert Johnson recorded a song in 1937 including a line like >that. It doesn't sound that silly when he's singing it... > > Led Zep also pinched that line...and it did sound silly with Robert Plant singing it.. the girls seemed to like it though. The Lemon Song I think. regards, Bill Stewart OBcd...Captured Rotation.....Pre Med....This CD is a classic...and as always, rj was right From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sat Oct 19 19:22:00 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:22:00 -0400 Subject: KADU FLYER Message-ID: I spoke with Mary Bruce the other day, and she would like everyone to know the KADU is still in operation. They will be sending out postcards very soon with a message to all Hawkfans. Chris and Mary are going thru some very very hard times and they ask for everyones patience and understanding. regards, Bill Stewart From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sat Oct 19 19:41:56 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:41:56 -0400 Subject: HW : Hammersmith supports '79, '80 Message-ID: In a message dated 96-10-18 14:12:28 EDT, you write: > >Evidently in those days, one showed just how much you loved the Hawks by >telling the support how shit they were and chanting "Hawkwind" all the >way through their set as if that would speed Hawkwind's arrival on stage >or give Dave a warm glow when he saw how dedicated the fans were :) > > After the very first HW tour of the states (73) there was always someone in the audience at other rock shows who would wait for a nice quiet break in a song to shout out HAWKWINDDDDDDDDDD. Usually would get about 6 or 7 others to reply in kind. It was once mentioned in Circus magazine how these Hawkwind morons can ruin a show. You can hear yours truly doing this dastardly deed on the Nektar Live in Ny album. I forget where you can hear it, but it is there. And Nektar was one of my favorite bands. regards, Bill Stewart From christian.mumford at LOGIN.EUNET.NO Sat Oct 19 19:56:27 1996 From: christian.mumford at LOGIN.EUNET.NO (Mindwarp) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 01:56:27 +0200 Subject: HW: Final Programme Message-ID: >William Duffy wrote: >> >> >> What song are HW playing on "The Final Programme" soundtrack? You can >> just about see them briefly in the scene at the nightclub. >> >> Are there any HW MIDI files out there on the net? >> >> William > WOW! Is there a soundtrack for this film? I never knew! Do HW actualy >feature in the film, or is it just their music? I haven't seen the film >for about three years and am kicking myself that I didn't dub it when I >had the opportunity. >-Max > > I thought I had the full version of this film, and there's no Hawkwind in sight. >From what I read, director Robert Fuest couldn't stand those hairy Hawks with their sonic destruction loitering about the set and decided to cut the short segment with them out of the film before it was even completed....... Oh, BTW everybody, this is my private mail account (nevermind the temporary alias) now that I'm ready to join the proud ranks of the unemployment office, so just contact me through christmu at login.eunet.no ........... ObHWprophecy: 'I don't wanna be employed' Christian "I am not as much a vegetable as everything is vegetable soup" Christian Mumford From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Sat Oct 19 20:04:24 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 20:04:24 -0400 Subject: OFF: silly lyrics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 19 Oct 1996, Jerry wrote: > Troy stated: > > >As long as it is not "oooh yeah baby the juice is running down my leg" > >(remember that quote fans?) lyrics a'la KISS, it should be fine. > > Blues guitarist Robert Johnson recorded a song in 1937 including a line like > that. It doesn't sound that silly when he's singing it... Sunday, June 20, 1937, Dallas, Texas, to be exact ("Traveling Riverside Blues"). The ribald double-entendre has a long history in the blues tradition, e.g. Mississippi John Hurt's "Candy Man Blues." And some folks, e.g. Bo Carter, made their entire living out of it (with such songs as "Cigarette Blues," "Banana in Your Fruit Basket," "My Pencil Won't Write No More," "Pussy Cat Blues," and so on). Cheers, Paul. ob3CD: Frank Zappa, _L\"ather_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From christian.mumford at LOGIN.EUNET.NO Sat Oct 19 20:17:15 1996 From: christian.mumford at LOGIN.EUNET.NO (Mindwarp) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 02:17:15 +0200 Subject: OFF: silly lyrics Message-ID: >Troy stated: > >>As long as it is not "oooh yeah baby the juice is running down my leg" >>(remember that quote fans?) lyrics a'la KISS, it should be fine. > >Blues guitarist Robert Johnson recorded a song in 1937 including a line like >that. It doesn't sound that silly when he's singing it... > >Jerry > Of course there's Arthur Lee of Love who sang something like 'And the snot has caked upon my pants - it has turned into crystal, there's a bluebird sitting on a branch, I'll have to fire my pistol'... on the brilliant 'Forever Changes' album.... Christian "I am not as much a vegetable as everything is vegetable soup" Christian Mumford From chip at PCC.COM Sat Oct 19 21:27:53 1996 From: chip at PCC.COM (Chip Hart) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 21:27:53 -0400 Subject: OFF: Kiss Lyrics! In-Reply-To: from "Jerry" at Oct 19, 96 06:36:58 pm Message-ID: > >As long as it is not "oooh yeah baby the juice is running down my leg" > >(remember that quote fans?) lyrics a'la KISS, it should be fine. My God, that's the oldest blues line in the book (for the whitest version, see Zeppelin: Lemon Song). KISS, however, was **much better** than that for some "great" misongynistic lyrics that could only be sung in the 70's: "...she says stop, baby, go go go!" Or, "She's good lookin' and she's lookin' like she could be good!" Or, "She's a dancer, A romancer, I'm a capricorn and she's a cancer..." And, geeze, dozen's more (even the song titles: Lick It Up, You Make Me (Rock Hard), Let's Put the X in Sex...). Don't sell KISS short, man! :-) -- Chip Hart * chip at pcc.com People's Computer Company * http://www.pcc.com/~chip 15 Pinecrest Drive * Work:800-722-7708 Essex Junction, VT 05452 * Fax: 802-872-8214 From jguizar at EPIX.NET Sat Oct 19 21:34:38 1996 From: jguizar at EPIX.NET (Jerry Guizar) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 21:34:38 -0400 Subject: OFF: displaying picture disks In-Reply-To: <9610181804.aa20925@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> Message-ID: In <9610181804.aa20925 at uk.ac.ed.tattoo>, on 10/18/96 at 06:04 PM, J Strobridge said: >Anthology 1,2 and 3 CDs now released with all the tracks from each >original album. Available now? Last time I tried ordering I couldn't get them. Jerry ----------------------------------------------------------- jguizar at epix.net ----------------------------------------------------------- From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Oct 19 23:39:28 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 11:39:28 +0800 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: SKARSOL wrote: > whoa- there is nothing wrong with brocks voice-when hes not tour-worn. > i can think of noone on the planet who i'd rather hear sing than brock. I agree. Dave Brock has a powerful voice. From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Oct 19 23:42:11 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 11:42:11 +0800 Subject: Chronicles CD Video Message-ID: Jerry Guizar wrote: > Where in PA (I'm in NE)? I got a NTSC copy of chaos from Visionary - > there was a discussion about the quality of the recording. It seems > there's some bad copies out there and mine's one of them :( Mine's Isn't very good either. A bit fuzzy. William From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Oct 20 00:31:39 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 12:31:39 +0800 Subject: HW: Final Programme Message-ID: Mindwarp wrote: > > >William Duffy wrote: > >> > >> > >> What song are HW playing on "The Final Programme" soundtrack? You can > >> just about see them briefly in the scene at the nightclub. > > WOW! Is there a soundtrack for this film? I never knew! Do HW actualy > >feature in the film, or is it just their music? I haven't seen the film > >for about three years and am kicking myself that I didn't dub it when I > >had the opportunity. > >-Max > > > > > > I thought I had the full version of this film, and there's no Hawkwind in > sight. > >From what I read, director Robert Fuest couldn't stand those hairy Hawks with > their sonic destruction loitering about the set and decided to cut the short > segment with them out of the film before it was even completed....... I checked the video again. The scene HW reputedly appear in is a nightclub set up like a giant pinball machine. There is a band peforming, though you only get a very brief glimpse. I f you freeze frame it, it's still impossible to make them out. The music being played is not typical HW. It's more mid-sixties Psychedelia, the type with cheesy organ that used to be heard in TV shows like UFO. Even though it's not your typical Hawkwind sound, it does sound like Dave Brock playing guitar! I suppose the only way to find out the truth is to ask Mr Brock himself? William From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Sat Oct 19 13:32:25 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 04:32:25 +1100 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: William Duffy wrote: > > SKARSOL wrote: > > > whoa- there is nothing wrong with brocks voice-when hes not tour-worn. > > i can think of noone on the planet who i'd rather hear sing than brock. > > I agree. Dave Brock has a powerful voice. I didn't say that I didn't like Brock's voice, but I personaly don't think it stands out particularly. Though i must admit that I can think of people I would rather sing than Brock. Though, I must qualify this by saying that I REALY like some of his singing on "Strange Trips..." Calvert live, I admit may be occasionaly slightly lacking, but his studio material is still my pick... -Max Wilcox From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Sun Oct 20 04:49:36 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 09:49:36 +0100 Subject: HW: Making Of Midgard Message-ID: Hi William At 01:32 20.10.96 +0800, you wrote: >I would also like to see the original "Making of Midgard" on >CD. The version on the "Lucky Lief..." CD is pretty YUK, and does not >have the wonderful atmosphere the original had! You can find a live version of this song on the following tape: 06.03.76, LONDON, IMPERIAL COLLEGE intro / assault & battery / golden void / magnu / brainstorm I / right stuff / brainstorm II / aubergine that ate rangoon / reefer madness / wind of change / steppenwolf / opa loka / making of midgard / sonic attack / kerb crawler / master of the universe cheers Bernhard From paul at PCMICRO.COM.AU Sun Oct 20 06:16:44 1996 From: paul at PCMICRO.COM.AU (Paul G Ward) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 21:16:44 +1100 Subject: OFF: Another test Message-ID: Sorry folks ... but it seems that the *only* way to get boc-l to send me my mail is for me to 1st send it one! From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Oct 20 05:12:57 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 10:12:57 +0100 Subject: HW : Hammersmith supports '79, '80 In-Reply-To: <199610191805.TAA10683@easynet.co.uk> Message-ID: In message <199610191805.TAA10683 at easynet.co.uk>, gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK writes >Poor old Japan...they did a gig with the Damned once in their early >days...that must've been a fun night out for the boys! So you had Dave Sylvian supporting Dave Vanian...mmmm, I suppose a cross between the two would be Trans Syl/Vanian? ....sorry....I'll just get my coat, shall I? -- Jon Browne From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sun Oct 20 05:18:52 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 10:18:52 +0100 Subject: HW : Crystal Palace with Vera In-Reply-To: <326927F1.46B7@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: In message <326927F1.46B7 at iinet.net.au>, William Duffy writes >By the way, was it HW who once did a charity concert with Vera Lynn??? > >William Yes and It ROCKED!!!!!! Crystal Palace Bowl 80-something '86 or 87'? With Spear Of Destiny, Dr and The Medics, Lemmy put in an appearance if memory serves. Several BOC-Lers were there, though, weren't you, gang? Vera cleared the arena faster than a bomb scare too. I've never seen an audience evaporate quicker! -- Jon Browne From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Sun Oct 20 10:46:09 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 10:46:09 -0400 Subject: HW : Hammersmith supports '79, '80 Message-ID: Japan opened for BOC?!?! That, I would have loved to have seen (big Japan fan here)! While David Sylvan' voice may have been the ultimate in punk-snottiness on the first two releases, the musicians were top-notch (FYI, Japans' keyboardist Richard Barberei is now the keyboardist for Porcupine Tree). Later incarnations of the band had Sylvan in more of a Bowie-clone mode. Probably the best new-wave band to come out of the scene. I didn't care at all for "Tin Drum", too Asian-sounding and none of Rob Deans' excellent guitar work, but the rest were GREAT! I think that the first album "Adolescent Sex" was the overall best, especially for the second side (the jazzy jam of "Suburban Love", the funky title track and the powerful "Television". Tons of synths and kybds, which set them apart from the rest of the punk scene.) Any other Japan fans here? Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com ---------- From: Andrew Gilham[SMTP:Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM] Sent: Friday, October 18, 1996 3:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: HW : Hammersmith supports '79, '80 >I remember DbD and Vardis getting *the* worst treatment I've seen of a >support except Cardiacs doing the Marillion tour, (I hasten to add, I >was there for the Cardiacs.) Can't have been worse than Japan supporting Blue Oyster Cult in '78! - Andy -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2254 bytes Desc: not available URL: From skarsol at EROLS.COM Sun Oct 20 08:04:21 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 12:04:21 +0000 Subject: Chronicles CD Video Message-ID: Jerry Guizar wrote: > Where in PA (I'm in NE)? I got a NTSC copy of chaos from Visionary - > there was a discussion about the quality of the recording. It seems > there's some bad copies out there and mine's one of them :( i was at third st. jazz and rock, in philadelphia pa. i really doubt they will reorder,but they might place a special order-they often will. they are currently out of stock. since visionary is the source, i dont think id waste any more money on it if they sent you a bum copy.rather, id return it and demand a good copy or a refund. if yer interested,the number for 3rd st. is 215-627-3366. they do mail order. rj From skarsol at EROLS.COM Sun Oct 20 08:15:05 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 12:15:05 +0000 Subject: HW: (Fwd) SA & CYM Message-ID: Max Wilcox wrote: > I didn't say that I didn't like Brock's voice, but I personaly don't > think it stands out particularly. Though i must admit that I can think > of people I would rather sing than Brock. Though, I must qualify this by > saying that I REALY like some of his singing on "Strange Trips..." > Calvert live, I admit may be occasionaly slightly lacking, but his > studio material is still my pick... > -Max Wilcox i didnt mean to attack yer judgement, max! =) i think perhaps everyone hears things differently.i agree with you about calvert-in the studio,he is absolutely incredible!and i have heard it come thru in a few live tracks... i dont know why, but some of the vocals on agents of chaos can actually get me high..... rj From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sun Oct 20 12:28:07 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 00:28:07 +0800 Subject: HW: Glastonbury Fayre Video Message-ID: I was I a record shop yesterday, and saw mention in a magazine of a video of the first Glastonbury Fayre which has been released. There was no mention of who is on it, it just talks about lots of naked bodies, and stated it has been put together by John Peel. The question is... Is this first Fayre the one Hawkwind appeared at???? William From Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM Sun Oct 20 13:23:57 1996 From: Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 12:23:57 -0500 Subject: HW: Final Programme Message-ID: I recently asked Mike Moorcock about this and he said that the US version has the Hawkwind clip cut from it, so you won't find it on that. They are on the original but I can't remember what they are playing. Anyway, it is them (apparantly the director didn't want to use them but MM insisted). Yours, Star Rats From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Sun Oct 20 13:58:16 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Damon C Capehart) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 12:58:16 -0500 Subject: HW: DELTAWAVE / Mike Coleman (was WorldwideCD@aol.com?) In-Reply-To: <961019185759_1112527898@emout06.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 19 Oct 1996, Bill Stewart wrote: > The absolute best is DELTAWAVE in Dallas. The CEO of the company is Mike > Coleman and he is both knowledgable and informative. He is always glad to > chat and very entertaining. [[snip]] > or CALL: 214-991-6621 NOTE: Dallas and surrounding areas in the 214 area code have split into TWO separate codes: 214 and 972. Mike Coleman's phone # has consequently changed to 972/991-6621. You will be happy to know this if you tried to call 214 and it didn't work. :) Damon C Capehart | aka Le Monsieur Damon | dcapehar at utdallas.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have questions about the QUEST Bible studies and prayer meetings at U.T.D. or about QUEST in general, e-mail me at QUEST at utdallas.edu, or visit the QUEST website, maintained by scarson at utdallas.edu, at http://www.utdallas.edu/orgs/quest/ From gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU Sun Oct 20 16:06:36 1996 From: gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU (Guido Vacano) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:06:36 -0400 Subject: OFF: Zorn (was Re: CYM and SA) In-Reply-To: <199610191522.QAA22568@abel.ed.harlequin.co.uk> from "Dave Berry" at Oct 19, 96 04:22:00 pm Message-ID: Dave says-- > I agree, the first Naked City album is excellent! If you like the short > (< 1 minute long) tracks on that album, it's also worth tracking down > either Torture Garden, which is 42 tracks in the same ilk; or their > third album, the name of which escapes me, which includes most of Torture > Garden along with reworkings of some classical stuff. After that they > get a bit variable. I have Heretic, which is mainly avant-garde-ish jazz. > I've heard that Radio is along the lines of their first album. I had Torture Garden a few years ago. I thought it was horrible (though my tastes, or lack thereof, have "expanded" quite a bit since then). Anyway, it struck me as just short bursts of noise and screaming. :-) > News For Lulu is entirely different, but also very good. I slightly > prefer More News For Lulu, which is the same line-up doing the same > sort of thing. Spy Vs. Spy is along the same lines. I've heard good things about NfL for a while now. Gotta check it out. > The Big Gundown is does a similar treatment to the film soundtracks of > Ennio Morricone, and some people think that it's Zorn's best work. He's > done lots of other stuff, including several "honk & squawk" type improvised > jazz albums, such as Cobra, that don't do anything for me. I think The Big Gundown is amazingly good. The only other Zorn release I have is Redbird. The first track is a beautiful percussion-only piece, while the latter is nice, but a bit too repetitive for my tastes. If it gets too random, or too repetitive, I start to lose interest. BTW, I'd really appreciate any more thoughts on the subject from you, Andy Gilham, or anyone else, but by private email. :-) Guido -- If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse From gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU Sun Oct 20 16:23:32 1996 From: gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU (Guido Vacano) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:23:32 -0400 Subject: HW : Hammersmith supports '79, '80 In-Reply-To: <01BBBE74.2E223C60@dynamic-13.async.pyramid.com> from "Craig A. Shipley" at Oct 20, 96 10:46:09 am Message-ID: Craig "email-geezer" :-) says-- > Japan fan here)! While David Sylvan' voice may have been the ultimate in = > punk-snottiness on the first two releases, the musicians were top-notch = > (FYI, Japans' keyboardist Richard Barberei is now the keyboardist for = > Porcupine Tree). Later incarnations of the band had Sylvan in more of a = > Bowie-clone mode. Probably the best new-wave band to come out of the = > scene. I didn't care at all for "Tin Drum", too Asian-sounding and none = > of Rob Deans' excellent guitar work, but the rest were GREAT! I think = > that the first album "Adolescent Sex" was the overall best, especially = > for the second side (the jazzy jam of "Suburban Love", the funky title = > track and the powerful "Television". Tons of synths and kybds, which set = > them apart from the rest of the punk scene.) > > Any other Japan fans here? I really haven't heard much--may have to pick up Adolescent Sex. Good title! :-) I am VERY fond of the two Sylvian/Fripp collaborations, The First Day, and Damage. I also like Mick Karn's solo albums, especially The Tooth Mother. Didn't Simon House play on one or more Japan albums? Guido obCDplayer--Tidal by Fiona Apple. This album is AWESOME! Who needs Sheryl Crow, Alanis Morissette and Jewel, when there's talent like this? -- If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse From stayer at PI.NET Mon Oct 21 00:05:08 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 21:05:08 PDT Subject: BOC: John Shirley Message-ID: A friend of mine (English) went to the DragonCon (scifi convention) early this year. John Shirley (co-writer for the two BOC tracks on Bad Channels) took part in a panel. He was kind of putting on a performance; being in his forties, very black sun glasses, dressed in leather. That night, he was actually sitting next to him at a Glass Hammer gig; had his wife and kids with him. No sunglasses this time, no leather... JS said he would be singing with a band the next night (don't remember what band) and they did Dominance And Submission. And according to my friend he did quite well. Jerry From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Mon Oct 21 02:06:01 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:06:01 +1000 Subject: OFF: silly lyrics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 19 Oct 1996, Jerry wrote: > Troy stated: > > >As long as it is not "oooh yeah baby the juice is running down my leg" > >(remember that quote fans?) lyrics a'la KISS, it should be fine. > > Blues guitarist Robert Johnson recorded a song in 1937 including a line like > that. It doesn't sound that silly when he's singing it... > > Jerry > I was also thinking about LZeps' "lemon song". Eric B says qoutes something about it on an interveiw from an old Creem Mag. Troy From dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM Mon Oct 21 03:34:30 1996 From: dacombj at CSC-SHIRLEY.E-MAIL.COM (Jeremy Dacombe) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 03:34:30 EDT Subject: HW: Cunlhat Message-ID: --- Received from LIMEMO1.DACOMBJ 4709 21/10/96 08.33 -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBMMAIL INTERNET GATEWAY INTERNET Hi, 2 things:- Firstly to rekindle the "covers" discussion, didn't Nik play a flute solo of HALL OF THE MOUNTAIN KING during Social Alliance in 84? Secondly, does anyone know who played bass in Alan's absence at Cunlhat Festival on 17.8.96? Jez. From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Mon Oct 21 03:42:00 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:42:00 +0200 Subject: HW: Cunlhat Message-ID: At 03:34 1996-10-21 EDT, you wrote: >--- Received from LIMEMO1.DACOMBJ 4709 21/10/96 08.33 > > -> IBMMAIL.INTERNET IBMMAIL INTERNET GATEWAY INTERNET > > Hi, > 2 things:- > Firstly to rekindle the "covers" discussion, didn't Nik play a flute > solo of HALL OF THE MOUNTAIN KING during Social Alliance in 84? on one of the recent (US) CD-R boots there's a (lloyd-langtonish) guitar sequence from the same Peer G?nt suite inside one of the tracks. > Jez. \\joe From makila at CSC.FI Mon Oct 21 04:06:25 1996 From: makila at CSC.FI (Niko Makila) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:06:25 +0300 Subject: HW: cover songs - LIST In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 18 Oct 1996 17:28:02 +0200." <1.5.4.32.19961018152802.008dc894@mailbox.mc.hik.se> Message-ID: Daniel's message dated: Fri, 18 Oct 1996 17:28:02 +0200 > > > >Of course we forgot the time Hawkwind did a cover of Abba's "Fernando". > > > >FoFP ;-) > > > > > Gaaah! If this is true -when? where? WHY!?!?!?! > > -Daniel Wikdahl This was in preparation of their `Space Is Their Waterloo' -tour, which never came to be. Another gem is the not-so-widely-spread soundcheck tape of `Voulez Schwoooz', which *ROCKS*. It is a shame that the audio quality is so bad due to the fact that the master copy is on Certron tape. //niko From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Mon Oct 21 05:39:54 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:39:54 UT Subject: HW: cover songs - LIST Message-ID: Actually, I recall a Lemmy interview where he said he wanted to cover "Knowing Me, Knowing You" with Motorhead, but it had four chords so it was too difficult... This was around the time Motorhead were pictured in _Sounds_ with the Nolan Sisters... - Andy From acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK Mon Oct 21 05:44:31 1996 From: acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK (Andy C) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:44:31 +0100 Subject: disturbing e-mail Message-ID: A number of people in the Microcenter have received spam e-mails from an account at AOL claiming to be selling child pornography. If you receive this message could you let me know as I am contacting AOL and possibly the police to complain about the rather sick perpetrator. Andy C From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 21 10:49:38 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:49:38 BST Subject: HW : Hammersmith supports '79, '80 In-Reply-To: Jon Browne's message of Fri, 18 Oct 1996 10:05:00 +0100 Message-ID: Jon Browne writes: > I remember DbD and Vardis getting *the* worst treatment I've seen of a > support except Cardiacs doing the Marillion tour, (I hasten to add, I > was there for the Cardiacs.) > > Evidently in those days, one showed just how much you loved the Hawks by > telling the support how shit they were and chanting "Hawkwind" all the > way through their set as if that would speed Hawkwind's arrival on stage > or give Dave a warm glow when he saw how dedicated the fans were :) > > DbD walked off stage I remember. Vardis, a year later, took even more > abuse but Steve Zodiac got one of the biggest cheers of the night when > he said something like "You can shout all you like, we're not going > fuckin' anywhere. We're not Doll by Doll!" In 1978 at Edinburgh's Usher Hall, Patrick Fitzgerald, "The Punk Poet", was treated to booing and the "HAWKWIND!" mantra. The only cheer was when someone thrw a paper glider from the gods and it executed a perfect landing on the stage. The Punk Poet burst into tears and fled the stage. I felt a bit sorry for him for a bit, then went to the bar. > Jon Browne FoFP From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Mon Oct 21 11:45:54 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:45:54 GMT+0100 Subject: OFF: silly lyrics Message-ID: > I was also thinking about LZeps' "lemon song". The use the same line of course in their own rendition of "Travelling Riverside Blues", which bears only passing resemblance to the RJ version, but I think is better than "The Lemon Song" :) Mind you, having heard the RJ material, all I can say is that musical tastes must of changed of late or else I'm a hopeless philistine--most of it sounds pretty dodgy! Cheers, Carl ObCD--Cathedral, _The Carnival Bizare_ ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK Mon Oct 21 07:58:01 1996 From: a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK (Andrew Fergus Wilson) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:58:01 -0000 Subject: OFF Jungle Message-ID: ---------- > From: Jon Browne > Good jungle could honestly be said to have a fair BLANGA quotient and > while being firmly in the techno/dance arena, it sounds more organic and > warm than garage/house. > -- > Reee-wind! > > Jon Browne indeed sir, and may i take this opportunity to point the curious listener in the direction of mr Lee Perry's fabulous recording 'Super Ape Inna Jungle', yes, dub's equivalent to Hawkwind has ventured into the jungle in the company of the mad professor and a couple of jungle artistes and emerged with what can only be described as space jungle, while side 2 trails off into the cavernous reealms of dubsville, this is a fine platter, and no mistaking. eh-hem, BOOYAKKABOOYAKKA andrew oh, and don't think paul simon will be seen in these jungles, no sir andrew f wilson "up and down round and round centre for social research story of my life" - Inner City Unit university of derby a.wilson at derby.ac.uk zedspace at geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/6368 http://yi.com/home/WilsonAndrew From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Sun Oct 20 18:04:42 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:04:42 +1100 Subject: OFF Jungle Message-ID: Andrew Fergus Wilson wrote: > > ---------- > > From: Jon Browne > > Good jungle could honestly be said to have a fair BLANGA quotient and > > while being firmly in the techno/dance arena, it sounds more organic and > > warm than garage/house. > > -- > > Reee-wind! > > > > Jon Browne > > indeed sir, > > and may i take this opportunity to point the curious listener in the > direction of mr Lee Perry's fabulous recording 'Super Ape Inna Jungle', > yes, dub's equivalent to Hawkwind has ventured into the jungle in the > company of the mad professor and a couple of jungle artistes and emerged > with what can only be described as space jungle, while side 2 trails off > into the cavernous reealms of dubsville, this is a fine platter, and no > mistaking. > > eh-hem, BOOYAKKABOOYAKKA > > andrew > > oh, and don't think paul simon will be seen in these jungles, no sir Yes, and those chimpanzees are on their knees....(give us a feasability study...) -Douglas I. Jungle From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Mon Oct 21 08:32:12 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:32:12 +0200 Subject: OFF Jungle Message-ID: At 08:26 PM 10/18/96 BST, you wrote: >I may be ignorant about this, but I always thought "jungle" was heavy bass & drum driven dance music. > >Neil. > > Yep, you're right! -Daniel Wikdahl . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Mon Oct 21 08:59:27 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 08:59:27 -0400 Subject: OTHER: Japan (Was HW: Hammersmith...) Message-ID: ---------- From: Guido Vacano[SMTP:gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU] Sent: Sunday, October 20, 1996 4:23 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: HW : Hammersmith supports '79, '80 Craig "email-geezer" :-) says-- My Japan description DELETED: I really haven't heard much--may have to pick up Adolescent Sex. Good title! :-) "AS" and "Obscure Alternatives" have Sylvian in full-punk sneer. From "Quiet Life" onwards, his vocal style is much more refined (the Bowie Thin White Duke persona comparison) and the punkish energy is replaced with a more sophisticated tone, although there is hints of that on "OA". Actually, the best version of "AS" can be found on one of the two 'best-of' releases, "Assemblage" or "Souvenir Of Japan", much mo' funky! Although neither of these release have the very best tracks on them, IMHO, they are both worthwhile for the more obscure singles and remixes. I am VERY fond of the two Sylvian/Fripp collaborations, The First Day, and Damage. I also like Mick Karn's solo albums, especially The Tooth Mother. Sylvians' first two solos, "Brilliant Trees" and "Down To Earth" (featuring BeBop Deluxe axeman Bill Nelson) are also worth tracking down. The pseudo-reunion release (no Rob Dean, but with the master of the "infinite guitar" Michael Brook filling in) of "Rain-Tree-Crow" is also worthy of a spin or two. There is a Web site that is handling the label that was started by a couple of the ex-Japan members; I can post that if you (or anyone else) is interested... Didn't Simon House play on one or more Japan albums? Correct-a-mundo! He was on the "Tin Drum" release, on violin only. I really wish I could get into this album more... Guido obCDplayer--Tidal by Fiona Apple. This album is AWESOME! Who needs Sheryl Crow, Alanis Morissette and Jewel, when there's talent like this? -- If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse objCDPlayer: Mastermind Vol. III / Tragic Symphony Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2857 bytes Desc: not available URL: From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 21 13:26:40 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:26:40 BST Subject: OFF: Re: disturbing e-mail In-Reply-To: Andy C's message of Mon, 21 Oct 1996 10:44:31 +0100 Message-ID: Andy C writes: > A number of people in the Microcenter have received spam e-mails from an > account at AOL claiming to be selling child pornography. If you receive > this message could you let me know as I am contacting AOL and possibly > the police to complain about the rather sick perpetrator. > > Andy C Thanks - I would be glad if you could. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From swann at MINDVOX.COM Mon Oct 21 09:26:36 1996 From: swann at MINDVOX.COM (Stephen Swann) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:26:36 -0400 Subject: HW: cover songs - LIST In-Reply-To: <199610210806.LAA28425@voxopm.minedu.fi> from "Niko Makila" at Oct 21, 96 11:06:25 am Message-ID: Niko Makila writes: > > This was in preparation of their `Space Is Their Waterloo' -tour, > which never came to be. Another gem is the not-so-widely-spread > soundcheck tape of `Voulez Schwoooz', which *ROCKS*. It is a shame > that the audio quality is so bad due to the fact that the master copy > is on Certron tape. ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Argh! Talk about ghosts of the past. :-) I wonder.... do any of the recipients of the great Live Chronicles giveaway still have a working copy? Steve swann at panix.com From a.hughes at NEWI.AC.UK Mon Oct 21 11:02:26 1996 From: a.hughes at NEWI.AC.UK (Alun Hughes) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:02:26 GMT Subject: Offensive mail Message-ID: This message appears to have received widespread distribution. The following is the advice just given to UK academic computer centre directors. Alun >X400-Received: by mta orca.ukerna.ac.uk in /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; > Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:10:41 +0100 >X400-Received: by mta orca.ukerna.ac.uk in /PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=GB/; Relayed; > Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:07:53 +0100 >Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:07:53 +0100 >X400-Originator: Directors-administrator at ukerna.ac.uk >X400-Recipients: non-disclosure:; >X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=uk.ac/ADMD= /C=GB/;orca.ukerna.:213320:961021101042] >Priority: Non-Urgent >Dl-Expansion-History: "/CN=HE Directors/"@UKERNA.ac.uk ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 > 11:10:41 +0100; >Dl-Expansion-History: /CN=Directors/@UKERNA.ac.uk ; Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:08:37 > +0100; >From: Rodney Tillotson >To: Directors list >Subject: Offensive mail >X-Mua-Version: XT-MUA 1.3 (wellington) of Wed Mar 2 16:06:54 GMT 1994 >Sender: Directors-administrator at ukerna.ac.uk > >Directors of JANET connected organizations: > > >Some, and probably many, users in your organization will almost certainly >have received or be about to receive a mail message purporting to be from an >individual in the New York area trading in pornographic material. > >This is likely to be an attack on the good name of that individual by some >other person or people; however, the material will offend many of those who >receive it (it offends me, for a start) and you may have complaints. > >UKERNA is taking what actions can be taken; not all of these can be publicly >disclosed. Meanwhile I hope you will be able to reassure any of your users >who complain. > >The standing advice on junk mail applies - that you simply dispose of it as >soon as you can. You may wish to point out to users or others that (as in most >cases) allowing yourself the very natural angry response is playing the game >which those who cause the nuisance want you to play. You will be positively >contributing to a solution by showing restraint. > > >Any Directors who wish to discuss this in more detail may contact JANET >Customer Service or myself. > >Rodney. > ======================================================================= Alun Hughes Head of Information Services North East Wales Institute of Higher Education Plas Coch, Mold Road, Wrexham, LL11 2AW a.hughes at newi.ac.uk Phone: 01978 293253 Fax: 01978 293254 ======================================================================= From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Mon Oct 21 11:34:53 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:34:53 +0100 Subject: HW: Cunlhat Message-ID: At 03:34 21.10.96 EDT, you wrote: > Secondly, does anyone know who played bass in Alan's absence at > Cunlhat Festival on 17.8.96? It was (I suppose) Jerry Richards Bernhard From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Mon Oct 21 10:26:51 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 15:26:51 +0100 Subject: HW: Six Degrees To Hawkwind In-Reply-To: <01BBBF2E.44E24160@dynamic-12.async.pyramid.com> Message-ID: In message <01BBBF2E.44E24160 at dynamic-12.async.pyramid.com>, "Craig A. Shipley" writes >Didn't Simon House play on one or more Japan albums? > >Correct-a-mundo! He was on the "Tin Drum" release, on violin only. I really wish >I could get into this album more... Sounds worryingly like we could get a game of Six Degrees To Hawkwind going here :) -- Jon Browne From Olivier_Boigey at TECHLINK.FR Mon Oct 21 13:26:15 1996 From: Olivier_Boigey at TECHLINK.FR (Olivier Boigey) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:26:15 GMT Subject: HW: Cunlhat Message-ID: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion L,BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU,Internet writes: Secondly, does anyone know who played bass in Alan's absence at Cunlhat Festival on 17.8.96? Jez. That was Ron Tree; Dave at synths, Richard playing drums and Jerry Richards on guitar Olivier From tori at PANIX.COM Mon Oct 21 11:49:10 1996 From: tori at PANIX.COM (Lurking Girl) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:49:10 -0400 Subject: OFF: Re: disturbing e-mail In-Reply-To: <01BBBF3C.E9196840@snowflake.mcs.dundee.ac.uk> Message-ID: Andy C wrote: > A number of people in the Microcenter have received spam e-mails from an > account at AOL claiming to be selling child pornography. If you receive > this message could you let me know as I am contacting AOL and possibly > the police to complain about the rather sick perpetrator. The AOL postmaster stated in news.admin.net-abuse.misc this morning that the accounts have already been closed, and that they're working with the appropriate authorities. (The current theory, I understand, is that it's a frame-up.) So don't bother telling 'em, they know. :) Victoria C. Fike * tori at panix.com * http://www.panix.com/~tori LNH: Lurking Girl * SCA: Vika (Ostgardr) * WB: miri * work: vf at panix.com "Commit a little mortal sin, it's good for the soul." -J. Buffett Email spam will be returned with a gratis copy of vmunix From pitkin at MARYWOOD1.MARYWOOD.EDU Mon Oct 21 11:51:39 1996 From: pitkin at MARYWOOD1.MARYWOOD.EDU (Bryan Pitkin) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 11:51:39 E Subject: Chronicles CD Video Message-ID: I recently recieved info on HW laser disks. one was simply labled Hawkwind JXP cat#86636 01438186636 Does any one know what's on it, is it worth the $24.95 cheers bryan pitkin at ac.marywood.edu From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Sun Oct 20 23:14:18 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:14:18 +1100 Subject: Underground Zero Message-ID: Hi all, I made some inquiries a couple of months ago about the possibility of getting some Underground Zero recordings, and I lost contact, and haven't been able to re-establish contact, with someone who was suggesting getting some to me. So, as I am VERY keen to get some, I will try agin. Is there anyone out there who knows the whereabouts of any recordings that I could obtain? Or failing that, somewhere I could go looking for them? I believe in a recent Friends and Relations CD, there was talk to a new album coming out, and that they were touring the US. Does anyone have any knowlege of this? HW is a very male-dominated band, the only female involvement seems to be in the form of breast-jiggling dancers. UZ is a very nice breath of fresh air in this respect, and I've been looking for their stuff for several years now, but to no avail. So, I'm praying that someone has some of their recordings out there. On a slightly diferent note, does anyone know of any bands similar to HW and UZ, that have female input? Danke, -Max Wilcox From acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK Mon Oct 21 12:15:45 1996 From: acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK (Andy C) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:15:45 +0100 Subject: Chronicles CD Video Message-ID: What !!! Hawkwind Laser disks, please tell me more more more Andy C ---------- From: Bryan Pitkin Sent: 21 October 1996 12:51 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: Chronicles CD Video I recently recieved info on HW laser disks. one was simply labled Hawkwind JXP cat#86636 01438186636 Does any one know what's on it, is it worth the $24.95 cheers bryan pitkin at ac.marywood.edu -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1527 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Mon Oct 21 12:49:11 1996 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:49:11 +0100 Subject: OFF: Zorn (was Re: CYM and SA) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 20 Oct 1996 16:06:36 EDT." <9610202006.AA20345@beaver.mbb.wesleyan.edu> Message-ID: > > I agree, the first Naked City album is excellent! If you like the short > > (< 1 minute long) tracks on that album, it's also worth tracking down > > either Torture Garden, which is 42 tracks in the same ilk; or their > > third album, the name of which escapes me, which includes most of Torture > > Garden along with reworkings of some classical stuff. After that they > > get a bit variable. I have Heretic, which is mainly avant-garde-ish jazz. > > I've heard that Radio is along the lines of their first album. > > I had Torture Garden a few years ago. I thought it was horrible (though > my tastes, or lack thereof, have "expanded" quite a bit since then). > Anyway, it struck me as just short bursts of noise and screaming. :-) So how does Painkiller etc fit in ? There's the Buried Secrets album (gross sleeve photo of a handcuffed person digging up skulls) & maybe another (with the serial killer photo on the insert). Haven't heard any of Zorn's stuff but I must admit I'm curious. Tim ObCD: Underworld _dubnobasswithmyheadman_ From a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK Mon Oct 21 13:57:53 1996 From: a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK (Andrew Fergus Wilson) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:57:53 -0000 Subject: Underground Zero Message-ID: yeah, there's a local 2nd hand shop has got there album for about 4-5 squid if yiou want it.. andrew andrew f wilson "up and down round and round centre for social research story of my life" - Inner City Unit university of derby a.wilson at derby.ac.uk zedspace at geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/6368 http://yi.com/home/WilsonAndrew ---------- From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Mon Oct 21 12:56:10 1996 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:56:10 +0100 Subject: OFF : CD Waste of Money In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 18 Oct 1996 20:38:43 EDT." <19961019003843.5724.qmail@mindvox.com> Message-ID: > > Got anything by Pete Namlook on his Fax label? He puts out more > > ambient/techno records in three months than the Hawks do in two decades. > > Except it's largely cack! One particlar ambient effort I bought is about > > an hour of a piano playing one note every 45 seconds or so.............. > > No matter how ripped I am, it still stinks! The man sure is prolific. I guess with such a choice there's a high chance of reeling in some crap, though one of the compilation albums (compilations of one bloke's output ... duh) is rather pleasant. > This sort of reminds me of my undergrad days, when I discovered that > my university had a music library (woo woo). I was in the mood at the > time to discover more synth/ambient stuff like Jarre/Vangelis/TD/etc, > so I asked them what they had in the way of electronic music. I was > disappointed by the selection, but they did have a large number of > tapes from the MIT "Experimental Music Lab". I thought *that* might > be pretty cool... yeah right. ;-) > > It was pretty much exactly as you described above, except they > occasionally left sine wave generators running to fill in the > empty space between. Geeks just shouldn't be let near musical > instruments, Robert Fripp notwithstanding. ;-) I dunno. Mr Brian Lustmord makes some pretty eerie atmospheres with nothing approaching contemporary musical instruments (as I recall the list for Monstrous Soul is just a bunch of frequency generators and electrical test equipment :-) Tim OtherObCD: Sky Cries Mary _Exit At the Axis_ (especially Elephnat Song!) From khiller at NICKEL.UCS.INDIANA.EDU Mon Oct 21 13:28:59 1996 From: khiller at NICKEL.UCS.INDIANA.EDU (Karl Hiller) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 12:28:59 -0500 Subject: OFF: Re: disturbing e-mail In-Reply-To: <9610211326.aa24198@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> Message-ID: > Andy C writes: > > > A number of people in the Microcenter have received spam e-mails from an > > account at AOL claiming to be selling child pornography. If you receive > > this message could you let me know as I am contacting AOL and possibly > > the police to complain about the rather sick perpetrator. > > Andy C I just received one today, claiming to be from "Steve Barnard" and offering to sell or trade child pornography. It has a real snail mail address, which makes it pretty plain to me that somebody is trying to get this guy in trouble (and it's probably succeeding...) Even stupid people know that AOL and the FBI have worked together on these cases. Slander may not be as bad as child pornography, but it would still suck to have some asshole send out spam email like this with *your* name and address on it, wouldn't it...? Karl From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Mon Oct 21 13:37:43 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:37:43 -0400 Subject: OFF: JUNGLE Message-ID: Thanks to everyone who replied to my query. Its clear from your replies that this is a form of house music characterized by heavy synthesized bass/drums. This is also apparent now that I have finished reading the first novella in the 'Ecstacy" quartet by Irvine Welsh. BTW this is an excellent read, it had me ROTFL. That Earl of Denby, what a character ;-) Martyn From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 21 18:57:45 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:57:45 BST Subject: OFF: Re: disturbing e-mail In-Reply-To: Karl Hiller's message of Mon, 21 Oct 1996 12:28:59 -0500 Message-ID: Karl Hiller writes: > address, which makes it pretty plain to me that somebody is trying to get > this guy in trouble (and it's probably succeeding...) Even stupid people > know that AOL and the FBI have worked together on these cases. > yeah - ok. This one did get me angry tho'. So a request please - to those who are closer to the centre of things than wot I am: if anyone gets to hear about whether they find the perpetrator and, if so what resulting action there was I'd be very interested to know the outcome. Thanks. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Mon Oct 21 14:01:19 1996 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:01:19 -0500 Subject: Underground Zero In-Reply-To: Max Wilcox "Underground Zero" (Oct 21, 2:14pm) Message-ID: Max Wilcox wrote: > HW is a very male-dominated band, the only female involvement seems to > be in the form of breast-jiggling dancers. Well, to be fair, there was the whole Bridgett Wishart era of HW. Then there was the collaboration with Samantha Fox. Um, OK, so maybe that last bit is a point in your favor... :-) BTW, Gimme Shelter is another song to add the the cover list for HW. > On a slightly diferent note, does anyone know of any bands similar to > HW and UZ, that have female input? Sky Cries Mary and Sabalon Glitz would seem to fit. Frank -- ============================================================================== Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 I don't practice what I preach, because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to. -- Bob Dobbs. From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Mon Oct 21 14:07:52 1996 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 13:07:52 -0500 Subject: HW: Hawklords Message-ID: On the topic of HW albums not on CD, was there ever a release of the Hawklords album on CD? I don't remember ever seeing one, and this is one of my favorite HW albums (not THE favorite mind you, but way up there on the list). Frank ObCD: Hall of the Mountain Grill remaster -- ============================================================================== Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 And I can see the strong wind blowing the sun towards us. -- Brian Johnson, BBC Radio 3 From skarsol at EROLS.COM Mon Oct 21 10:14:28 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:14:28 +0000 Subject: Underground Zero Message-ID: Max Wilcox wrote: > On a slightly diferent note, does anyone know of any bands similar to > HW and UZ, that have female input? > Danke, > -Max Wilcox try chimera,or delicious monster. dont ask me where to get em,got mine second hand. rj From skarsol at EROLS.COM Mon Oct 21 10:16:11 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:16:11 +0000 Subject: Underground Zero Message-ID: Frank Weil wrote: > > Max Wilcox wrote: > > HW is a very male-dominated band, the only female involvement seems to > > be in the form of breast-jiggling dancers. > > Well, to be fair, there was the whole Bridgett Wishart era of HW. > Then there was the collaboration with Samantha Fox. Um, OK, so maybe > that last bit is a point in your favor... :-) > > BTW, Gimme Shelter is another song to add the the cover list for HW. > > > On a slightly diferent note, does anyone know of any bands similar to > > HW and UZ, that have female input? > > Sky Cries Mary and Sabalon Glitz would seem to fit. oh. and doesnt archetectural metaphor have a female vocalist? rj From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Mon Oct 21 14:23:41 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 02:23:41 +0800 Subject: HW: Hawklords Message-ID: Frank Weil wrote: > > On the topic of HW albums not on CD, was there ever a release of the > Hawklords album on CD? I don't remember ever seeing one, and this is > one of my favorite HW albums (not THE favorite mind you, but way up > there on the list). Yes, It has been released. I think it was the Virgin label. If you can't find it could be listed under the title "25 Years On." William From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Mon Oct 21 14:23:49 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 20:23:49 +0200 Subject: HW: Hawklords Message-ID: At 13:07 1996-10-21 -0500, you wrote: >On the topic of HW albums not on CD, was there ever a release of the >Hawklords album on CD? I don't remember ever seeing one, and this is >one of my favorite HW albums (not THE favorite mind you, but way up >there on the list). there is only one CD release out - april 1989, virgin (UK) played it today at work - the Flying Doctor makes me happy :0) >Frank >ObCD: Hall of the Mountain Grill remaster ok. the choice for tomorrow... \\joe From khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU Mon Oct 21 14:28:42 1996 From: khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Keith A Henderson) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:28:42 -0400 Subject: HW/OFF: was UZero, now 'females' In-Reply-To: <9610211301.ZM26456@unknown.zmail.host> from "Frank Weil" at Oct 21, 96 01:01:19 pm Message-ID: > > Max Wilcox wrote: > > On a slightly diferent note, does anyone know of any bands similar to > > HW and UZ, that have female input? > Frank then said... > Sky Cries Mary and Sabalon Glitz would seem to fit. Also Melting Euphoria, and of course, Amon Duul II (Renate Knaup - thumbs up, Julie Waring - thumbs down), Gong (Gilli Smyth), and Steve Hillage (Miquette Giraudy). ArcMet also, I believe. From chrisr at TIAC.NET Mon Oct 21 14:44:17 1996 From: chrisr at TIAC.NET (Chris Raymond) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:44:17 -0400 Subject: HW/OFF was UZero, now females Message-ID: The vocalist for Arc Met is Deb Young who is also the drummer. Arc Met will playing in Hartford, CT., USA on November 8, 1996. Will be getting the venue name this week. Also OFF: I saw Gong this week in Boston and they were fantastic! Anybody who happens to catch them will be fortunate. They played for around 140 minutes. This was caught on audio as well as video. From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Mon Oct 21 14:51:43 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:51:43 UT Subject: Underground Zero Message-ID: > On a slightly diferent note, does anyone know of any bands similar to >HW and UZ, that have female input? Amon Duul 2 - Renate Knaup handles lead vocals on most of the albums, and in the current line-up too. - Andy From jguizar at EPIX.NET Mon Oct 21 16:29:19 1996 From: jguizar at EPIX.NET (Jerry Guizar) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:29:19 -0400 Subject: Underground Zero In-Reply-To: <9610211301.ZM26456@unknown.zmail.host> Message-ID: In <9610211301.ZM26456 at unknown.zmail.host>, on 10/21/96 at 01:01 PM, Frank Weil said: >Max Wilcox wrote: >> On a slightly diferent note, does anyone know of any bands similar to >> HW and UZ, that have female input? >Sky Cries Mary and Sabalon Glitz would seem to fit. Has Sky Cries Mary released anything new lately? I have 2 of their CD's and I think it's been a few years since the last one came out. Jerry ----------------------------------------------------------- jguizar at epix.net ----------------------------------------------------------- From jguizar at EPIX.NET Mon Oct 21 16:45:18 1996 From: jguizar at EPIX.NET (Jerry Guizar) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 16:45:18 -0400 Subject: OFF : CD Waste of Money In-Reply-To: <199610211656.RAA03770@dibble.aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: In <199610211656.RAA03770 at dibble.aeolians.bt.co.uk>, on 10/21/96 at 05:56 PM, bart said: >> > Got anything by Pete Namlook on his Fax label? He puts out more >> > ambient/techno records in three months than the Hawks do in two decades. >> > Except it's largely cack! One particlar ambient effort I bought is about >> > an hour of a piano playing one note every 45 seconds or so.............. >> > No matter how ripped I am, it still stinks! >The man sure is prolific. I guess with such a choice there's a high >chance of reeling in some crap, though one of the compilation albums >(compilations of one bloke's output ... duh) is rather pleasant. I have _Psychonavigation 2_ (Laswell&Namlook) and _Dark Side of the Moog IV_ (Namlook/Schulze/Laswell) that sounds good. I have some Steve Roach that probably fits close to the above description (sounds like Aborigines banging on things and blowing thru reeds). Jerry ObWaitingFor:Rusted Root/Remember ----------------------------------------------------------- jguizar at epix.net ----------------------------------------------------------- From mjf at GRAHAM.COM Mon Oct 21 17:00:33 1996 From: mjf at GRAHAM.COM (Mike Fuller) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:00:33 -0700 Subject: OFF Jungle In-Reply-To: <326AA1FA.722C@student.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: >>>>> On Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:04:42 +1100, Max Wilcox >>>>> said: >> oh, and don't think paul simon will be seen in these jungles, no sir Max> Yes, and those chimpanzees are on their knees....(give us a Max> feasability study...) Uh, doesn't this belong under the "OFF: silly lyrics" thread? ;-) -- Mike From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 21 22:22:50 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 22:22:50 BST Subject: OFF: Re: disturbing e-mail In-Reply-To: Karl Hiller's message of Mon, 21 Oct 1996 12:28:59 -0500 Message-ID: Karl Hiller writes: > > Andy C writes: > > > > > A number of people in the Microcenter have received spam e-mails from an > > > account at AOL claiming to be selling child pornography. If you receive > > > this message could you let me know as I am contacting AOL and possibly > > > the police to complain about the rather sick perpetrator. > > > Andy C > > I just received one today, claiming to be from "Steve Barnard" and > offering to sell or trade child pornography. It has a real snail mail > address, which makes it pretty plain to me that somebody is trying to get > this guy in trouble (and it's probably succeeding...) Even stupid people > know that AOL and the FBI have worked together on these cases. > > Slander may not be as bad as child pornography, but it would still suck > to have some asshole send out spam email like this with *your* name and > address on it, wouldn't it...? Yeah. Some schoolkid hacked my account and sent obscene email to two girls in his class from it. Bummer explaining to the Dean. Then I had to spend hours with system logs figuring out who it was. Then there's the embarassment of screwing up with a password bad enough to be hacked. I can't imagine how bad a worldwide spam like this would be. > Karl FoFP From skarsol at EROLS.COM Mon Oct 21 13:34:50 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 17:34:50 +0000 Subject: HW/OFF was UZero, then females,now gong Message-ID: Chris Raymond wrote: > Also OFF: I saw Gong this week in Boston and they were fantastic! > Anybody who happens to catch them will be fortunate. They played for > around 140 minutes. This was caught on audio as well as video. caught this gig in philly,was the absolute best live event in philly since HW was last here. absolutely fantastic,although i think maybe howlett was either having a bad nite,or was having maybe >too much< fun.... this may have been due to equiptment tho'. the setlist couldnt have been better- two sets! the overall sound was clean and groovy.the only problem was the bass,where it seemed to me that some notes were being dropped,either by mike h., or by electronics..... daevid still seems like a teenager with his nrg. his voice is still strong,i mean really strong,not like uncle nik.no falsettos here..... catch this show if at all possible. sell yer dog or fish. rj p.s. sorry for bugging anybody who might not care about this.but go see the show. From mordru at MAGG.NET Mon Oct 21 18:13:25 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 18:13:25 -0400 Subject: Both: Cats and Pigeons Message-ID: >On Sat, 19 Oct 1996, Andy C wrote: > >> Heres a quote from the Grolier Interactive encylopedia, in an entire >> essay on Music and Science fiction this is the only mention >> of both bands. The authors have obviously no idea ! > Well. obviously no bias at all shown here. :) I can't make up my mind >whether he is right or not. After all, BOC are not *entirely* sf >oriented, but do indeed do it well. I suppose the only thing to say is - >idiots should leave opinion out of a potentially good subject. The text you are reading in the Grollier originates from John Clute and Peter Nichol's Encyclopeia of Science Fiction, they must've come up with a deal to include data from that in their encyclopedia. However, this work, unlike a regular reference work, is primarily a work of reviews and opinions. The text in question was written by Maxim Jakubowski and Peter Nichols, only one of several to write in the music entry. None of the others even mention Hawkwind or BOC, focusing far more on classical music selections. As for the other musical groups listed, far more time is devoted to groups such as Van Der Graaf Generator, David Bowie, Jefferson Airplane, and the Steve Miller Band. =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU Mon Oct 21 20:30:41 1996 From: gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU (Guido Vacano) Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 20:30:41 -0400 Subject: For Jason Scruton Message-ID: Sorry to all who are not Jason. :-) Jason, I tried to send you a reply to the email you sent me, but it bounced. Do you have a different address? Thanks, Guido -- If nothing is done, then all will be well. -- Lao Tse From videofest at MEDIOPOLIS.DE Mon Oct 21 22:22:19 1996 From: videofest at MEDIOPOLIS.DE (VideoFest Berlin) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 04:22:19 +0200 Subject: Calvert & Amon Duul news Message-ID: hello all, more news on the Calvert site: * an interview / statement by Amon D??l's founder member JOHN WEINZIERL on Bob Calvert and his collaboration with him on the 'Die Loesung' album - and more (Words / World according on Calvert page) - I recently met Weinzierl - and there are some plans under way to attach a (sort of 'official' Amon D??l II homepage to the Calvert site - keep your eyes open - more news on this soon... * a review of the latest review by THE MOOR - entitled FLUX - featuring NIK TURNER - (Collab-Relations page) * a stack of new lyrics from Calvert's Cellar Tapes / Blueprints from the Cellar and 'The Kid from Silicon Gulch' - and bits and pieces here and there - all of this listed and linked on the NEWS page. enjoy. Knut VideoFest Mediopolis Berlin e.V. Potsdamer Str. 96 D - 10785 Berlin Germany tel: *30 - 262 8714 fax: *30 - 262 8713 email: videofest at mediopolis.de http://www.mediopolis.de/videofest/ From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Mon Oct 21 22:59:44 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:59:44 +1000 Subject: Underground Zero In-Reply-To: <199610211756.RAA31985@unix4.derby.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Oct 1996, Andrew Fergus Wilson wrote: > yeah, there's a local 2nd hand shop has got there album for about 4-5 squid > if yiou want it.. > > andrew WOW! You can barter with seafood in England now? That's so cool. What can you get for a Halibut? Troy > From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Oct 22 04:45:54 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:45:54 +0100 Subject: OFF : CD Waste of Money In-Reply-To: <199610211656.RAA03770@dibble.aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: In message <199610211656.RAA03770 at dibble.aeolians.bt.co.uk>, bart writes >The man sure is prolific. I guess with such a choice there's a high chance >of reeling in some crap, though one of the compilation albums (compilations >of one bloke's output ... duh) is rather pleasant. Yeah, fair enough, the blokes not the end of the world. Fax Compilation 4 is alright, nothing amazing, but listenable enough, but it's mostly gabba etc. AVOID "Atmospheres" - really! -- Jon Browne From a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK Tue Oct 22 07:01:02 1996 From: a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK (Andrew Fergus Wilson) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:01:02 -0000 Subject: Underground Zero Message-ID: ---------- > WOW! You can barter with seafood in England now? That's so cool. > What can you get for a Halibut? > Troy 8-) Gosh Troy, don't you ever look at your record sleeves? Seafood has always been integral part of the music scene, think about all those bass players! Things got a bit messy in the 80s with all those headless basses, but we seem to be getting away from such radical fishmongering trends... also it might be worth checking out robyn hitchcock's satirical overview of the rock/seafood nexus in the soft boys' song, 'where are the prawns?' (to which they enigmatically answered, "down by the sea"). anyway, there were these two goldfish in a tank, one says to the other, "how do you drive this thing?" andrew ObMoreJunglist, 'Bunn The Sensi' - Top Cat (the answer to all those fishes) andrew f wilson "up and down round and round centre for social research story of my life" - Inner City Unit university of derby a.wilson at derby.ac.uk zedspace at geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/6368 http://yi.com/home/WilsonAndrew > > From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Tue Oct 22 06:29:52 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 06:29:52 -0400 Subject: Hawklords Message-ID: Frank, Are you referring to "25 Years On" (the one with the bloke sniffing' his armpit)?. If so, most definitely yes, many moons ago, in the UK. (If I'm not mistaken, it was in the first batch to be released in the late '80's). Don't know if our friends at Griffin have released it or not... GO BRAVES! Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com ---------- From: Frank Weil[SMTP:frankw at COMM.MOT.COM] Sent: Monday, October 21, 1996 2:07 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: HW: Hawklords On the topic of HW albums not on CD, was there ever a release of the Hawklords album on CD? I don't remember ever seeing one, and this is one of my favorite HW albums (not THE favorite mind you, but way up there on the list). Frank ObCD: Hall of the Mountain Grill remaster -- =============================================================================== Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 And I can see the strong wind blowing the sun towards us. -- Brian Johnson, BBC Radio 3 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That last one should have gone out private-style. no more techno-talk, I promise! -- Jon Browne From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Oct 22 07:50:43 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 12:50:43 +0100 Subject: OFF : Fish trader (was UZ) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Troy Harris writes > WOW! You can barter with seafood in England now? That's so cool. >What can you get for a Halibut? > Troy ONE halibut? Just one? How big is it? If it's quite small, I'll give you The Best Of Lloyd Cole and the Commotions CD for it. If its on the largeish side for a halibut, I'll trade you Ween's Chocolate And Cheese. I'm naturally assuming it's fresh, and was caught within the last 24 hours. Interested? BTW Anyone got any salmon? Laaverly! (Ob Drug Reference) -- Jon Browne OBCd Nuggets Vol.3 feat. The Barbarians "Are you a boy or are you a girl?" with the great singalong '60's chorus "Yeah! You look like a girl!" From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Oct 22 08:36:41 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 13:36:41 +0100 Subject: OFF Jungle In-Reply-To: <199610211703.SAA03826@dibble.aeolians.bt.co.uk> Message-ID: In message <199610211703.SAA03826 at dibble.aeolians.bt.co.uk>, bart writes >Ah ha. I've been toying with the idea of getting a jungle sampler of some >kind, since parts of what I've heard have bee quite interesting. Is the >Bukem CD the one with a grey/silver cover ? No, it's a lovely picture of Earth from about 200 miles up. > >So would something like _Firestarter_ be considered Jungle ? No, not really. *I'd* consider Firestarter to be *ROCK* by any definition except "Must be played on guitars". Recent Prodge inc. Firestarter (which hit #1, you remember) has *such* general appeal it's not really appropriate to pigeon hole except "mainstream". I know school teachers and coppers who love this record! If pushed it's techno, but really, plenty of techno haters would love this record coz its just so exciting! Jungle gets no airplay, it's a very closed scene. The best way to hear real Jungle, live mixes, is to surf the AM airwaves Saturday night, after midnight. Plenty of pirate jungle stations go up for two or three hours with the occasional on-air bust! Great entertainment! >I'd say that >seems a lot heavier (bad use of the word) than any drum'n'bass I've come >across. Fair point, but Drum 'n'bass is not jungle. Unless you count techno and ambient as interchangable. Jungle is dance music , Drum'n'bass is chill- out music. Many of the drum'n'bass merchants count themselves Jazzmen, would you believe? The best piece of Drum ' n 'Bass music is PHOTEK - UFO/RINGS AROUND SATURN. UFO is one of the ultimate pieces of music I've ever heard. It starts with this sub-audio bass with sucks all the air out of your room as the cones move out, changing the atmospheric pressure around you completely, then this ultra-reed-thin drum pattern starts. Its sounds a little like rain on glass, a little like one of those drum playing tin- monkeys. There's _some_ guitar but no more than any of the other samples. Then there's these loops of UFO sightings, "Coming in off my flashlight, look, there it is again." And of course, the Star Trek door closing sample which sounds really corny, but in this context still sounds unearthly but recognisable enough to make you smile. Then when it finishes the cones drop back into place, which feels like the room re- pressurising (that's not a proper word, is it?) Unfortunatly, this record is only out on 12" single, which is a shame because it's the finest release of it's genre, FACT! -- Jon Browne From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Tue Oct 22 09:16:16 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:16:16 +0200 Subject: OFF : Fish trader (was UZ) Message-ID: The little Aussie-fisherman writes; >> WOW! You can barter with seafood in England now? That's so cool. >>What can you get for a Halibut? >> Troy >Jon Browne answers; >ONE halibut? Just one? How big is it? If it's quite small, I'll give you >The Best Of Lloyd Cole and the Commotions CD for it. If its on the >largeish side for a halibut, I'll trade you Ween's Chocolate And Cheese. > And I wonder; Has anybody heard Weens latest release? I've read it's a country album... ...and a bad one too... -Daniel Wikdahl . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Tue Oct 22 10:22:22 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:22:22 EST Subject: OFF : Fish trader (was UZ) Message-ID: > And I wonder; > > Has anybody heard Weens latest release? I've read it's a country album... > ...and a bad one too... > > -Daniel Wikdahl > Daniel, Haven't heard it but it got a good review in Guitar World, FWIW. Heard the new COC yet? Anyone heard the new Motorhead? theo From a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK Tue Oct 22 10:51:20 1996 From: a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK (Andrew Fergus Wilson) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:51:20 -0000 Subject: OFF : Fish trader (was UZ) Message-ID: > Jon Browne > > OBCd Nuggets Vol.3 feat. The Barbarians "Are you a boy or are you a girl?" > with the great singalong '60's chorus "Yeah! You look like a girl!" in your skin tight pants, you look like a girl From khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU Tue Oct 22 10:02:39 1996 From: khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Keith A Henderson) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:02:39 -0400 Subject: OFF : Fish trader (was UZ) In-Reply-To: <5ru3WJATULbyEwc$@comics.demon.co.uk> from "Jon Browne" at Oct 22, 96 12:50:43 pm Message-ID: > > In message melb.edu.au>, Troy Harris writes > > > WOW! You can barter with seafood in England now? That's so cool. > > What can you get for a Halibut? > > Troy > > ONE halibut? Just one? How big is it? If it's quite small, I'll give you > The Best Of Lloyd Cole and the Commotions CD for it. If its on the > largeish side for a halibut, I'll trade you Ween's Chocolate And Cheese. > I think you should only be trading 'Tubilah Dog' CD's, folks. :) Keith H. (FAA) ObPalindrome: I hate Michael Notlob. From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Tue Oct 22 10:22:31 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 16:22:31 +0200 Subject: OFF : Fish trader (was UZ) Message-ID: At 09:22 AM 10/22/96 EST, you wrote: >> And I wonder; >> >> Has anybody heard Weens latest release? I've read it's a country album... >> ...and a bad one too... >> >> -Daniel Wikdahl >> >Daniel, >Haven't heard it but it got a good review in Guitar World, FWIW. >Heard the new COC yet? Anyone heard the new Motorhead? >theo > > I've got the new COC... it's pretty much of a standard trash-metal CD...not at all as exciting as Deliverance... AND I have also heard the new Motorhead... and what to say about it??? Well it's just... Motorhead... you don't get disappointed and you don't get surprised either... Both CD's have received medium-good reviews in Swedish media, and are worth buying. -Daniel Wikdahl . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From gnome at TELEPORT.COM Tue Oct 22 10:38:39 1996 From: gnome at TELEPORT.COM (Kevin Haskel Rubin) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 07:38:39 -0700 Subject: OFF : Motorhead - Overnight Sensation In-Reply-To: <5E157E2B71@hawk.syr.edu> from "Ted Jackson jr. EL 84" at Oct 22, 96 09:22:22 am Message-ID: > Haven't heard it but it got a good review in Guitar World, FWIW. > Heard the new COC yet? Anyone heard the new Motorhead? > theo The new Motorhead is okay. I like it a lot better than _Sacrifice_ but not as much as previous stuff. The most suprising songname on it is _Listen to Your Heart_ but it's not as bad as teh title suggests... As Daniel says, no big suprises, but not big disappointments, either. Lemmy, though, looks much older on the cover than previously. -kevin -- Kevin Rubin aka 3999RK60 RU5M7I gnome at teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~gnome "The world is a comedy to those who think, and a tragedy to those who feel." -Tom Robbins From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Tue Oct 22 10:46:51 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 16:46:51 +0200 Subject: Arc Met Message-ID: At 08:15 1996-10-22 -0500, you wrote: > Hello, > > Arc Met will have a new CD out the first week of december on an > italian label. They will also be playing some dates in italy and > possibly a few other places in europe. It will also contain another > cover of Hawkwind. Don't what song yet though... > > SCott > > ObCs- November- 2:a (sweden 1972) hey scott - have you heard the other November ones? there's four out: 1:st, 2:nd, 6th (!!!) and a new released live taken from a gig in 73/74 something. November has achieved Grade A Cult Status in Sweden. when where why and how did you find this gem? ObHEAVYTrack: Men Mitt Hj?rta Skall vara Gjort av Sten \\joe From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Tue Oct 22 12:02:19 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 11:02:19 EST Subject: OFF : Motorhead - Overnight Sensation Message-ID: >>From Kevin: > > The new Motorhead is okay. I like it a lot better than _Sacrifice_ but not > as much as previous stuff. The most suprising songname on it is _Listen to > Your Heart_ but it's not as bad as teh title suggests... > > As Daniel says, no big suprises, but not big disappointments, either. > > Lemmy, though, looks much older on the cover than previously. > > -kevin > > Dang, maybe it's 'cause I'm an old fuck myself, but I thought Lemmy looked pretty good. Old, for sure, but in a cooly grizzled sort of way, like Will Munny in 'Unforgiven...' theo From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Tue Oct 22 11:13:06 1996 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 10:13:06 -0500 Subject: Hawklords In-Reply-To: "Craig A. Shipley" "Re: Hawklords" (Oct 22, 6:29am) Message-ID: Craig A. Shipley wrote: > Frank, > > Are you referring to "25 Years On" (the one with the bloke sniffing' > his armpit)?. If so, most definitely yes, many moons ago, in the > UK. (If I'm not mistaken, it was in the first batch to be released > in the late '80's). Don't know if our friends at Griffin have > released it or not... That's the one. Griffin hasn't released it. Now that I think about it, though, the 25th anniversary box set from Griffin was called "25 Years On" also. This CD sounds like a prime candidate for release in the U.S. by Griffin. Wasn't there some discussion about the actual title of the Hawklords release a while ago? I vaguely remember someone pointing out that "Metaphysical View of a Factory" (or whatever the exact wording is) might also be the title. Also, the codex lists it as simply "Hawklords". Enquiring minds want to know. Frank ObCD: Hawkwind Anthology - Volume 1 -- ============================================================================== Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 OK, stupid question time. The etter before m on my keyboard is broken. How do I ogout? From sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK Tue Oct 22 12:51:40 1996 From: sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK (simon) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 17:51:40 +0100 Subject: Artists needed! In-Reply-To: <01BBB688.40884320@dhcp-3.tadpole.co.uk> Message-ID: Reply to Mike Parkington about Re: Artists needed! >Hi y'all, >We are currently two artists gearing up to do Hawkwind Comix, with >adaptations of Hawkwind lyrics. The ones we are covering so far are Jack >of Shadows, Spirit of the Age, and possibly Urban Guerilla, Master of >the Universe and Secret Agent. We need more artists! The book would be a >non-profit, small-size black & white comic with about 15 - 20 pages, >and any suggestions and contributions would be welcome! It wouldn't have >a large print run, maybe 200-400 at first (depending on the demand of >course) and will mainly be distributed on the net, but we would be >looking for other channels as well. I'm also >planning on putting up a web page with excerpts from it. Depending on >how many contributors we can get, the sooner it'll be out - sometime >next year... >Contact me with any suggestions or contributions at mumford at eunet.no.... >Christian I told my wife about your project (she's an artist) and she asked me to get more details i.e. how long would each piece be, style, format and stuff. She's not a great HW fan but does know the material, living with me she couldn't avoid it ;) But I think she's very good. she has worked proffesionatly before but not in comics. She has also been very ill for sometime and this could be a good way to help her recover. Anyway, let me know Si sihalley at vossnet.co.uk From fsrbw1 at AURORA.ALASKA.EDU Tue Oct 22 13:10:32 1996 From: fsrbw1 at AURORA.ALASKA.EDU (A.K. Wadleigh) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:10:32 -0800 Subject: Hawklords --> "25 Years On" boxed set In-Reply-To: <9610221013.ZM28312@unknown.zmail.host> Message-ID: > That's the one. Griffin hasn't released it. Now that I think about > it, though, the 25th anniversary box set from Griffin was called "25 > Years On" also. This CD sounds like a prime candidate for release in > the U.S. by Griffin. > Enquiring minds want to know, Your opinion gentlemen (and ladies) of the "25 Years On" (boxed set)? A.K. Wadleigh P.S.: I have more salmon then I know what to do with! (In Alaska) From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Oct 22 14:32:38 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 02:32:38 +0800 Subject: Hawklords --> "25 Years On" boxed set Message-ID: > Your opinion gentlemen (and ladies) of the "25 Years On" (boxed set)? > > A.K. Wadleigh I think It's a well put together collection. The 90's equivilent of "RoadHawks," the only problem is apart from the books, the wonderful packaging, and the odd rarety for CD, it's not entirely ideal for the fan who has everything. It might have been better released as a 4CD set, but with the EMI remasters instead (or at least one or two other completely remastered albums. Can anyone tell me if the Griffin "Astounding Sounds..." CD has the parody adverts included. Also, is it a remastered album (same goes for "Quark")??? William From Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM Tue Oct 22 15:10:41 1996 From: Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 14:10:41 -0500 Subject: Site updates Message-ID: The Welcome to the Future site has just been updated (at long last). I've been waiting for some info from the Hawkwind camp and you can now see the Alan Davey interview, some new tour dates and some news about Alan's new solo project. More to come soon, including a very interesting sound clip! Yours, Star Rats From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Tue Oct 22 15:49:36 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 15:49:36 -0400 Subject: HW ASAM Griffin Release (wuz: Hawklords --> "25 Years On" boxed set) Message-ID: ---------- From: William Duffy[SMTP:xl5 at IINET.NET.AU] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 1996 2:32 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: Hawklords --> "25 Years On" boxed set CHOMP! Can anyone tell me if the Griffin "Astounding Sounds..." CD has the parody adverts included. Also, is it a remastered album (same goes for "Quark")??? William The ASAM CD has the parody adverts spread across three of the eight pages of the booklet. The other pages have a kind of silly ad (the Art-Deco rocketship on the red dart-boardish solar system with the following verbiage: "It's the SUPER SONIC ROCKET SPEAKERS / HI-FI MUSIC MUSIC MUSIC / A MUST FOR EVERY HOME / IN GLORIOUS STEREOPHONIC SOUND / FREE TOY - CUT OUT AND USE AS A DART BOARD. DARTS NOT INCLUDED) on one page and a take-off of the Nuremburg-ish stone hawk with the following verbiage in an exploding word-balloon IT MIXES / IT SLICES / IT DICES. Below the hawk it reads IT'S THE EVER POPULAR AND ALWAYS AMAZING...HAWKWIND. The front and end pieces have the standard ASAM artwork.... No indication if it was remastered, but it sounds real good to these old ears. Oh, and there is the matter of the three extra tracks, "Dream Of Isis", "Back On The Street" and "Honky Dorky". Can't tell you about QS&M, only have my old CD, not the new one (have only seen it in the box version with the Queen Of Deleria book. Don't really want to pay US$30 for it, what with no new music...) objCDPlayer; Mastermind IV / Until Eternity (IMHO, best prog-rock release of 1996! Bill Berends is the master of the MIDI synth-guitar!) Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2584 bytes Desc: not available URL: From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Tue Oct 22 16:12:01 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 16:12:01 -0400 Subject: Hawklords Message-ID: ---------- From: Frank Weil[SMTP:frankw at COMM.MOT.COM] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 1996 11:13 AM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: Hawklords Craig A. Shipley wrote: > Frank, > > Are you referring to "25 Years On" (the one with the bloke sniffing' > his armpit)?. If so, most definitely yes, many moons ago, in the > UK. (If I'm not mistaken, it was in the first batch to be released > in the late '80's). Don't know if our friends at Griffin have > released it or not... That's the one. Griffin hasn't released it. Now that I think about it, though, the 25th anniversary box set from Griffin was called "25 Years On" also. This CD sounds like a prime candidate for release in the U.S. by Griffin. Wasn't there some discussion about the actual title of the Hawklords release a while ago? I vaguely remember someone pointing out that "Metaphysical View of a Factory" (or whatever the exact wording is) might also be the title. Also, the codex lists it as simply "Hawklords". Well, the nice thing about working from home is that my CD & LP collection is close at hand. I went over and dug out my copy of the LP (still in the original shrink-wrap with the "Harmony Hut" price tag of $7.49 on it (big money for an LP in 1978!). The cover reads "Pan Transcendental Industries Inc." (upper left) "25 Years On" (Upper right), bright pink sprayed HAWKLORDS across ol' Mr. Snyff-de-Pytt and a flame/dove/hawkish logo in the lower left with the verbiage "Reality you can rely on". All the text is small black type. The spine reads "Hawklords 25 Years On" (guess that kind of settles it, doesn't it?) The back cover has the box/cone/sphere/ruler construct. Song credits/track listings are along the left hand side. At the very top is the verbiage "Metaphysical view of Factory with album cover". I always thought that this referred to the picture on the back cover. The label on the LP itself says "Hawklords / 25 Years On". That does it for me, the name is "25 Years On" Enquiring minds want to know. Now you know for sure... Frank ObCD: Hawkwind Anthology - Volume 1 -- =============================================================================== Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 OK, stupid question time. The etter before m on my keyboard is broken. How do I ogout? Depends, try "exit" (works on my Unix system) or "Ctrl-d" (But if it were really broken, how could you type the words "Anthology", "Volume" or "Hawklords", hmmm???) :-) Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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EL 84" writes >Dang, maybe it's 'cause I'm an old fuck myself, but I thought Lemmy >looked pretty good. Old, for sure, but in a cooly grizzled sort of >way, like Will Munny in 'Unforgiven...' >theo A mate of mine was at Black Grape the other day, this 17 year old kid was sitting next to him. He says (in Manchester accent) "Hey, mate, How old are you then?" "33" says my friend. Kid gives him the thumbs up "Eh, Nice one, man. Hope I'm still going to gigs when I'm your age!" Cheeky sod! -- Jon Browne From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 23 10:21:32 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:21:32 BST Subject: Hawklords --> "25 Years On" boxed set In-Reply-To: Bryan Pitkin's message of Tue, 22 Oct 1996 16:10:11 E Message-ID: Bryan Pitkin writes: > ...on an unrelated yet related note I have a copy of Space Ritual Alive > on vinal and it is well worn (loved) but there is news print on the inside > with some story of space and some "out there" ideals > is this part of the HW log? can i find the complete whatever it is ... > with out paying $50 us dollars to get a decent vinal copy?? > The Hawkwind 'log' came with In Search of Space together with the original foldout sleeve packaging. Space Ritual Alive never had anything like this although the tour programme (if I recall correctly) has some strange story inside it about the Hawknauts on a space trip. This occasionally comes up for sale in 2nd hand shops and collectors' mags. I've never yet seen the 'log' (a collection of esoteric and odd stories collected together by Bob Calvert (?)) separate from the album packaging so I guess you'd have to buy the whole package if you wanted a genuine copy of this. Alternatively the recent remastered CD of In Search of Space was produced with a reduced-size version. Neat! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Tue Oct 22 16:42:49 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 07:42:49 +1100 Subject: ICU! Message-ID: With the discussion of what HW albums to re-release, that seems to be going on at present, I believe I shall add my vote to this topic: INNER CITY UNIT!!!!!! I have no idea how many ICU fans there are out there, but I believe that the albums are in a fairly short supply - there only being one (or maybe two) that are still available, and from what I have heard they are brill. Or mostly, anyway. One I'd particularly love to see is the Imperial Pompadours one (anyone know what Insolence Across the Nation's like?). I've got the address to order one, but that's all, so if anyone knows where to get any others I'd be most gracious to recieve any information regarding them. Danke, -Max Wilcox From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Wed Oct 23 06:20:30 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:20:30 UT Subject: ICU! Message-ID: Max You want to get in touch with Steve Pond - there's links to his ICU site from Sonique's page, and the Calvert page. (Not to mention my page!) He's always happy to help out ICU fans. Andy From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 23 11:23:56 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:23:56 BST Subject: Hawklords --> "25 Years On" boxed set In-Reply-To: A.K. Wadleigh's message of Tue, 22 Oct 1996 09:10:32 -0800 Message-ID: A.K. Wadleigh writes: > Your opinion gentlemen (and ladies) of the "25 Years On" (boxed set)? A good compilation covering the various incarnations of Hawkwind. FoFP From a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK Wed Oct 23 10:42:55 1996 From: a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK (Andrew Fergus Wilson) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 14:42:55 -0000 Subject: Site updates Message-ID: wow, what a nice interview: certainly less abrupt than Dave's 8-) ---------- > More to come soon, including a very interesting sound clip! oooh, gicve us a clue? > > Yours, > Star Rats is it just my browser or does everyone get '[Line: 280] Unterminated string constant' message in a little error box when they access the site? andrew andrew f wilson "up and down round and round centre for social research story of my life" - Inner City Unit university of derby a.wilson at derby.ac.uk zedspace at geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/6368 http://yi.com/home/WilsonAndrew From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Wed Oct 23 09:49:52 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 09:49:52 -0400 Subject: Site updates Message-ID: ---------- From: Andrew Fergus Wilson[SMTP:a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 1996 10:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: Site updates is it just my browser or does everyone get '[Line: 280] Unterminated string constant' message in a little error box when they access the site? andrew Yep, me too. (Using Microsoft Explorer 3.0). Craig -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1512 bytes Desc: not available URL: From a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK Wed Oct 23 11:43:34 1996 From: a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK (Andrew Fergus Wilson) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 15:43:34 -0000 Subject: Site updates Message-ID: > is it just my browser or does everyone get '[Line: 280] Unterminated string > constant' message in a little error box when they access the site? > > andrew > > Yep, me too. (Using Microsoft Explorer 3.0). > > Craig a-ha, me too, and the erroe is something to do with microsoft javascript runtime or whatever, any navigators having similar problems? compatability or coding? have i nothing better to ponder? andrew andrew f wilson "up and down round and round centre for social research story of my life" - Inner City Unit university of derby a.wilson at derby.ac.uk zedspace at geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/6368 http://yi.com/home/WilsonAndrew From cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Wed Oct 23 11:39:36 1996 From: cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:39:36 EST Subject: HW: Hawklords Message-ID: As best as I can determine, Hawklords "25 Years On" was only put out on CD once, in the late eighties. It has been unavailable for several years now (but I have a copy). I have a friend who has spent a looonngg time now looking for both "25 Years On" and "Palace Springs" on CD to no avail. Is "PXR5" still unavailable on CD? I thought it was issued about the same time as "25yo", and was also re-issued again on CD since then. NOTE TO GRIFFIN: Please re-release both "Palace Springs" and Hawklords "25 Years On" on CD in the US! Both are required ownership for budding Hawkfans. Captain Cloud cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Wed Oct 23 11:11:42 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:11:42 -0400 Subject: Site updates In-Reply-To: <199610231542.PAA29853@unix4.derby.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 23 Oct 1996, Andrew Fergus Wilson wrote: > > is it just my browser or does everyone get '[Line: 280] Unterminated > string > > constant' message in a little error box when they access the site? > > > > andrew > > > > Yep, me too. (Using Microsoft Explorer 3.0). > > > > Craig > > a-ha, me too, and the erroe is something to do with microsoft javascript > runtime or whatever, I get no errors when viewing the page (using lynx). It doesn't jump through any hoops, either, but I can read the text content, no problem, which is what is important to me. (I can also view the page in my lifetime, too, which is more than I can say for other pages and browsers---except when I turn off images.) > any navigators having similar problems? > > compatability or coding? "Anyone who slaps a "this page is best viewed with Browser X" label on a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web, when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another computer, another word processor, or another network." --- Tim Berners-Lee in Technology Review, July 1996 Cheers, Paul. obCD: Jethro Tull, _Aqualung_ (25th Anniversary Edition) e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Wed Oct 23 16:09:04 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:09:04 GMT+0100 Subject: OFF: Re: Site updates Message-ID: --On ons 23 okt 1996 09.49 "Craig A. Shipley" wrote: > From: Andrew Fergus Wilson[SMTP:a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK] >> is it just my browser or does everyone get '[Line: 280] Unterminated >> string >> constant' message in a little error box when they access the site? > > Yep, me too. (Using Microsoft Explorer 3.0). That's what you get for using Microsoft Explorer! ;) Cheers, Carl From stayer at PI.NET Wed Oct 23 10:42:12 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 07:42:12 PDT Subject: OFF: Nektar q&a,was superfairytales Message-ID: RJ wrote: >the song is done in screenplay fashion,and covers a conversation >between man (an innocent boy),and a christ/buddha/krshna figure (bluebird). >this album was probably the first piece that i ever completely flipped >over, and after maybe 2000 listens,it still moves me. >you can really only appreciate it if you know the lyrics.it is a fictitious >account of the coming of a messiah unto man. >this is,coincidentally,alan davy's favorite album, by his favorite band. It's funny to see how Remember The Future always comes out as one's favourite album. I always liked Recycled and Journey To The Centre Of The Eye better (both concept albums - one long track). Recycled is about, as you might have guessed, Earth pollution (in 1975!). A pure progressive rock album - which is why many Hawkwind fans might like RTF better. Journey To The Centre Of The Eye compares a journey in space to a journey on the inside of the eye. The lyrics fit the music - 1971 Krautrock. More psychedelic than Recycled. I think HW fans who like RTF should take a listen to this one as well. Last thing I learned about Roye Albrighton, Nektar's guitarist, is that Roye thinks Recycled is Nektar's best album. He loves RTF, but Recycled is marvellous... Jerry From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Wed Oct 23 11:35:49 1996 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:35:49 +0100 Subject: ICU! Message-ID: >With the discussion of what HW albums to re-release, that seems to be >going on at present, I believe I shall add my vote to this topic: > INNER CITY UNIT!!!!!! I have no idea how many ICU fans there are out >there, but I believe that the albums are in a fairly short supply - Well there's at least one more ICU fan out here! They were a great band. As far as I know, the only available ICU album is the cd re-issue of "Pass Out". It has some extra tracks shoved on the end (inc. Spirit Of The Age). It took me years to track down all their stuff, with Maximum Effect without a doubt being the hardest to get. Dave From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Tue Oct 22 22:37:41 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:37:41 +1100 Subject: HW: Hawklords Message-ID: cjohnson wrote: > > As best as I can determine, Hawklords "25 Years On" was only put > out on CD once, in the late eighties. It has been unavailable for > several years now (but I have a copy). I have a friend who has > spent a looonngg time now looking for both "25 Years On" and > "Palace Springs" on CD to no avail. > > Is "PXR5" still unavailable on CD? I thought it was issued about > the same time as "25yo", and was also re-issued again on CD since > then. > > NOTE TO GRIFFIN: > Please re-release both "Palace Springs" and Hawklords "25 Years On" > on CD in the US! Both are required ownership for budding Hawkfans. > > Captain Cloud > cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com You can get Palace Springs on CD, in Australia at least, as I've seen it around a few places. If you wan't me to pick it up that'd be ok. PXR5 is also available on CD, I didn't think it was, until two weeks ago that is, when I bought it. -Max Wilcox From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Tue Oct 22 22:41:51 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:41:51 +1100 Subject: ICU! Message-ID: Andrew Gilham wrote: > > Max > > You want to get in touch with Steve Pond - there's links to his ICU site from > Sonique's page, and the Calvert page. (Not to mention my page!) He's always > happy to help out ICU fans. > > Andy Erm yes, I have been in touch with him for the last few months - in touch isn't realy the right phrase, realy - bleeding him dry of all of his stuff would be more apropriate one. He's a fantastic chappie for doing all the stuff he has for me, but that still doesn't remedy the problem of very few ICU albums available on CD - which MUST AND WILL BE FIXED RIGHT NOW!!!!! er...yes...well... -Max Wilcox From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 23 16:44:40 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:44:40 BST Subject: HW: Hawklords In-Reply-To: cjohnson's message of Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:39:36 EST Message-ID: cjohnson writes: > As best as I can determine, Hawklords "25 Years On" was only put > out on CD once, in the late eighties. It has been unavailable for > several years now (but I have a copy). I have a friend who has > spent a looonngg time now looking for both "25 Years On" and > "Palace Springs" on CD to no avail. I can prolly find these. What's the max he's willing to pay? FoFP From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Wed Oct 23 11:50:58 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:50:58 -0400 Subject: ICU! In-Reply-To: <199610231535.QAA19616@easynet.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 23 Oct 1996 gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK wrote: > Well there's at least one more ICU fan out here! They were a great band. As > far as I know, the only available ICU album is the cd re-issue of "Pass > Out". It has some extra tracks shoved on the end (inc. Spirit Of The Age). > It took me years to track down all their stuff, with Maximum Effect without > a doubt being the hardest to get. Make that another ICU fan, here! (I always seem to chime in urging a write-in campaign for the release of _Maximum Effect_ on CD whenever ICU are mentioned.;) Aside from _Pass Out_, _New Anatomy_ is also available on CD, kompleat with Sinclair ZX Spectrum program and all! I think the appearance of this release on CD has more to do with Dave Anderson's involvement than anything else. Btw, has anyone managed to capture the Spectrum program as an ASCII file?? Surely there are Spectrum emulators out there, e.g. for IBM PC clones, and so if the program was available as an ASCII file (or whatever), one of us could actually try and run it to see what it does. Cheers, Paul. obCD: Cephas & Wiggins, _Dog Days of August_ e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From pitkin at MARYWOOD1.MARYWOOD.EDU Wed Oct 23 12:51:03 1996 From: pitkin at MARYWOOD1.MARYWOOD.EDU (Bryan Pitkin) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 12:51:03 E Subject: HW: Hawklords Message-ID: I'm not sure if it's still in press but Roadrunner records had released "Palace Springs" and it was still available as of a year ago in chain stores ans even K-Mart (oddly enough) unless that was just back stock that hadn't sold. cheers, bryan From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Wed Oct 23 17:55:31 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 17:55:31 BST Subject: HW: Hawklords In-Reply-To: cjohnson's message of Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:39:36 EST Message-ID: cjohnson writes: > several years now (but I have a copy). I have a friend who has > spent a looonngg time now looking for both "25 Years On" and > "Palace Springs" on CD to no avail. > I saw Palace Springs CD in a second hand shop the other day. Want me to re-check? jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM Wed Oct 23 12:17:09 1996 From: Star_rats at HAWKWIND.COM (Hawkwind) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:17:09 -0500 Subject: Site updates Message-ID: >"Anyone who slaps a "this page is best viewed with Browser X" label on a >Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web, when >you had very little chance of reading a document written on another >computer, another word processor, or another network." I've double checked and double checked and there is nothing wrong with the Javascript syntax that is on the pages. I have had numerous comments about this and all from I/Explorer users. It has always been a pretty standard thing to mention which browser has been used to test the pages of a site with (at least I don't put a 'choose your browser' page as the home page, as many do), and I think the above quote is a litle unfair in this day and age when every browser supports different tags and versions of their own script language. I would like everyone that is having problems to also write to Microsoft and report the bug with their browser. I feel that it is they that should keep up with the exsisting developments if they are coming into the browser war late. (They are as much to blame as all the other browsers for incompatiblity - what about their VBscript that no-one else supports?). Sorry for the problems guys, just trying to make a good page - anyone want a 'text only' version? Yours, Star Rats From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Wed Oct 23 13:32:45 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:32:45 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawklords Message-ID: >I'm not sure if it's still in press but Roadrunner records had released >"Palace Springs" >and it was still available as of a year ago in chain stores ans even K-Mart >(oddly enough) unless that was just back stock that hadn't sold. > >cheers, >bryan In Europe, Palace Springs is available on Castle Communications (CLACD 303). I have both the Roadrunner and this release. Does this mean that I am exhibiting the ealy signs of kollectoritis? What is the prognosis? ;-) Martyn From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Wed Oct 23 13:43:11 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 13:43:11 -0400 Subject: HW: Hawklords Message-ID: ---------- From: cjohnson[SMTP:cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM] Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 1996 11:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: HW: Hawklords As best as I can determine, Hawklords "25 Years On" was only put out on CD once, in the late eighties. It has been unavailable for several years now (but I have a copy). I have a friend who has spent a looonngg time now looking for both "25 Years On" and "Palace Springs" on CD to no avail. Is "PXR5" still unavailable on CD? I thought it was issued about the same time as "25yo", and was also re-issued again on CD since then. I believe that these two titles (and a couple of others) were released all about the same time. I know that I bought these two, along with HotMG and QS&C, all in one fell swoop. (Man did I have some explaining to do to the wife when that credit card bill came due! :-) ). If PXR5 does get reissued, I sure hope that they use the first-pressing version with the "less-live, more studio-sounding" version of "High Rise" onnit (like the one found on the "Spirit Of The Age" best-of). My LP is of the first generation, complete with sticker over the wiring (only partially peeled back in one corner) and the CD made for a bit of a shock ;-) when the version I was used to hearing wasn't there no more. Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com NOTE TO GRIFFIN: Please re-release both "Palace Springs" and Hawklords "25 Years On" on CD in the US! Both are required ownership for budding Hawkfans. Captain Cloud cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Steve swann at panix.com From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Wed Oct 23 15:52:56 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 21:52:56 +0200 Subject: Hawklords Message-ID: this is the different CD releases of Hawkwind Main Releases that is known to mankind. (what is counted as "Main Release" is just my humble opinion) \\joe ------------------------------------- Hawkwind 1992/9 CD (One Way S21 57658 - US) 1994/11 CD (Repertoire REP-4403-WY - Ger) 1996/3 CD (EMI Premier 7243 8 37552 2 6 - UK) X In Search Of Space 1989/5 CD (EMI Fame CD-FA 3192 - UK) 1991 CD (One Way CDLL 57474 - US) 1991/8 CD (Toshiba TOCP 6798 - Jap) 1996/3 CD (EMI Premier 7243 8 37553 2 5 - UK) Doremi Fasol Latido 1991/7 CD (One Way CDLL 57475 - US) 1992/8 CD (EMI/Toshiba TOCP 7362 - Jap) 1996/3 CD (EMI Premier 7243 8 37554 2 4 - UK) Space Ritual 1992/9 2CD (One Way S22 57659 - US) 1996/3 2CD (EMI Premier 7243 8 35487 2 9 - UK) Hall Of The Mountain Grill 1989/5 CD (EMI CD-FA 3133 - UK) 1992 CD (One Way S21 57660 - US) 199? CD (EMI Legendary Masters 432053 2 - Aus) 1996/3 CD (EMI Premier 7243 8 37555 2 3 - UK) Warrior On The Edge Of Time 1992/10 CD (Dojo DOJO CD 084 - UK) 1993/5 CD (Griffin 55421 3931-8 - Can) Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music 1989/4 CD (Virgin CDSCD 4004 - UK) 1995/8 CD (Griffin GCD-345-0 - Can) Quark Strangeness And Charm 1989/4 CD (Virgin CDSCD 4008 - UK) 1995/5 CD (Griffin GCD-370-0 - Can) Hawklords: 25 Years On. 1989/4 CD (Virgin CDSCD 4014 - UK) PXR5 1989/4 CD (Virgin CDSCD 4016 - UK) Live Seventy Nine 1992/2 CD (Castle CLACD 243 - UK) 1994/8 CD (Griffin GCD-229-2 - Can) Levitation 1987/7 CD (Castle CLACD 129 - UK) 1994/8 CD (Griffin GCD-230-2 - Can) Sonic Attack 1996/9 CD (Griffin GCD-612-2 - Can) 1996/9 CD (EBS EBSCD123 - UK) Church of Hawkwind 1994 CD (Dojo DOJO CD 86 - UK) 1994/2 CD (Griffin GN 0932-2 - Can) Choose Your Masques 1996/9 CD (Griffin GCD-613-2 - Can) 1996/9 CD (EBS EBSCD123 - UK) Zones 1992 CD (Flicknife/Anagram CDM GRAM 57 - UK) 1994/7 CD (Griffin GCDHA-164-2 - Can) This Is Hawkwind/Do Not Panic 1992/5 CD (Anagram CDM GRAM 54 - UK) 1994/6 CD (Griffin GCDHA-163-2 - Can) The Chronicle Of The Black Sword 1986/6 CD (Flicknife SHARP 033D - UK) 1992/8 CD (Dojo DOJO CD 72 - UK) 1994/5 CD (Griffin GCDHA-142-2 - Can) Live Chronicles 1992/2 CD (Castle CCSCD 321 - UK) 1994/2 2CD (Griffin GCDHA-0136-2A/B - US) Out And Intake 1987/5 CD (Flicknife SHARP 040CD - UK) 1992/5 CD (Griffin GN 03922-2 - Can) 1994/12 CD (Dojo DOJO CD 153 - UK) The Xenon Codex 1988/4 CD (GWR GWCD 26 - UK) 1989 CD (Enigma 7-75407-2 - US) 1991/2 CD (GWR/Teichiku TECP 25663 - Jap) 1992/6 CD (Castle CLACD 281 - UK) Space Bandits 1990/10 CD (GWR GWCD 103 - UK) 1990 CD (Road Runner RR 93472 - Hol) 1990 CD (Road Racer RRD 9347 - US) 1991 CD (GWR/Teichiku TECP 25662 - Jap) 1992/2 CD (Castle CLACD 282 - UK) Palace Springs 1991/6 CD (GWR GWCD 104 - UK) 1991/6 CD (Road Runner RR 93032 - Hol) 1991/6 CD (Road Racer RRD 9303 - US) 1992/7 CD (Castle CLACD 303 - UK) Electric Tepee 1992/5 CD (Castle/Essential! ESSCD 181 - UK) 1993/10 CD (Griffin GN-0931-2 - Can) 1995 CD (Dojo DOJO CD 244 - UK) It Is The Business of the Future to be Dangerous 1993/11 CD (Castle/Essential! ESSCD 196 - UK) 1995/5 CD (Griffin GCDHA-161-2 - Can) The Business Trip 1994/9 CD (EBS EBSCD 111 - UK) 1994/10 CD (Griffin GCD-279-2 - Can) Psychedelic Warriors: White Zone 1995/2 CD (EBS EBSSCD 113 - UK) 1995/5 CD (Griffin GCD-376-2 - Can) Alien 4 1995/10 CD (EBS EBSSCD 118 - UK) Love in Space 1996/5 2CD (EBS EBSSCD 120 - UK) From sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK Wed Oct 23 16:44:31 1996 From: sihalley at VOSSNET.CO.UK (simon) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 21:44:31 +0100 Subject: ICU! In-Reply-To: <326D31C9.5996@student.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: Reply to Max Wilcox about ICU! >With the discussion of what HW albums to re-release, that seems to be >going on at present, I believe I shall add my vote to this topic: > INNER CITY UNIT!!!!!! I have no idea how many ICU fans there are out >there, but I believe that the albums are in a fairly short supply - >there only being one (or maybe two) that are still available, and from >what I have heard they are brill. Or mostly, anyway. One I'd >particularly love to see is the Imperial Pompadours one (anyone know >what Insolence Across the Nation's like?). This is just IMHO Inner City Unit - Brilliant Imperial Pompadours - Well, it's not really that good is it, I'd have to listen to it again but as I remember it was pretty dreadful. I'd hate too many people to get worked up about the possible chance of a cd release only to be as let down by it as I was when I finally found a copy. Not that I regret buying it as such (if I hadn't I'd still be search in vain as I have only ever seen one copy, the one I bought!) and no, I won't sell it! BUT this is just my view from memory, and if anybody disagrees then I'll dig it out and listen to it again. Si sihalley at vossnet.co.uk From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Wed Oct 23 17:21:02 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Damon C Capehart) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 16:21:02 -0500 Subject: Hawklords In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19961023205132.050732f8@eka.ericsson.se> Message-ID: On Wed, 23 Oct 1996, cjohnson wrote: > NOTE TO GRIFFIN: > Please re-release both "Palace Springs" and Hawklords "25 Years On" on > CD in the US! Both are required ownership for budding Hawkfans. > > Captain Cloud > cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com Actually, here, then, is an EDITED list of the HW CD releases - these the ones that are not available in the U.S., either as Canadian-brought-over- by-Griffin or actual U.S. On Wed, 23 Oct 1996, Johan Edlundh wrote: > this is the different CD releases of Hawkwind Main Releases that is > known to mankind. (what is counted as "Main Release" is just my humble > opinion) > ------------------------------------- > Hawkwind > 1992/9 CD (One Way S21 57658 - US) > 1994/11 CD (Repertoire REP-4403-WY - Ger) > 1996/3 CD (EMI Premier 7243 8 37552 2 6 - UK) [[[ Remaster not yet available in the U.S., I don't think. Still wondering if and when that'll happen... I'm positive Griffin is doing what they can. ]]] > X In Search Of Space > 1989/5 CD (EMI Fame CD-FA 3192 - UK) > 1991 CD (One Way CDLL 57474 - US) > 1991/8 CD (Toshiba TOCP 6798 - Jap) > 1996/3 CD (EMI Premier 7243 8 37553 2 5 - UK) [[[ Ditto ]]] > Doremi Fasol Latido > 1991/7 CD (One Way CDLL 57475 - US) > 1992/8 CD (EMI/Toshiba TOCP 7362 - Jap) > 1996/3 CD (EMI Premier 7243 8 37554 2 4 - UK) [[[ Ditto ]]] > Space Ritual > 1992/9 2CD (One Way S22 57659 - US) > 1996/3 2CD (EMI Premier 7243 8 35487 2 9 - UK) [[[ Ditto ]]] > Hall Of The Mountain Grill > 1989/5 CD (EMI CD-FA 3133 - UK) > 1992 CD (One Way S21 57660 - US) > 199? CD (EMI Legendary Masters 432053 2 - Aus) > 1996/3 CD (EMI Premier 7243 8 37555 2 3 - UK) [[[ Ditto ]]] > Hawklords: 25 Years On. > 1989/4 CD (Virgin CDSCD 4014 - UK) [[[ PLEEZPLEEZPLEEZPLEEZ!!! :) :) :) ]]] > PXR5 > 1989/4 CD (Virgin CDSCD 4016 - UK) [[[ Ditto. :) ]]] > Alien 4 > 1995/10 CD (EBS EBSSCD 118 - UK) [[[ available as a distributed import by Griffin, right? ]]] > Love in Space > 1996/5 2CD (EBS EBSSCD 120 - UK) [[[ soon, I'm assuming ]]] And BTW, I didn't mean to sound so harsh about the quality of the Griffin CYM and SA releases. I'm very happy that they're out, but was merely in a nitpicking mode once I got them. Looking to the Future, Damon From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Wed Oct 23 19:18:03 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:18:03 EST Subject: off:calling all swedes Message-ID: I ran across a band called L.E.G.G. while searching the database just now. From the song titles, they would appear to be an attrocious 80s hair band. Any details? theo From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Wed Oct 23 18:53:42 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 22:53:42 UT Subject: Site updates Message-ID: But you didn't check it with the second most popular browser in use today, huh? :) Anyway, I've reported it to Microsoft, but are you going to be huffy or are you going to fix it? :)) - Andy From videofest at MEDIOPOLIS.DE Wed Oct 23 19:33:20 1996 From: videofest at MEDIOPOLIS.DE (VideoFest Berlin) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 01:33:20 +0200 Subject: Calvert & Moorcock NEWS Message-ID: hi there, again - more news on the Calvert site: * an extensive interview with Michael Moorcock has been annexed to the main Moorcock page of the Calvert site - mostly focussing on his own musical activities and his collaborations with Hawkwind & Calvert - plus a link to a new Moorcock site and other tiny bits... * and two more lyrics from Calvert's electronic musical 'The Kid from Silicon Gulch' the Calvert site: http://www.thing.de/projekte/future/ Knut VideoFest Mediopolis Berlin e.V. Potsdamer Str. 96 D - 10785 Berlin Germany tel: *30 - 262 8714 fax: *30 - 262 8713 email: videofest at mediopolis.de http://www.mediopolis.de/videofest/ From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Oct 23 13:07:40 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:07:40 +0100 Subject: OFF : Fish Traders In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , "A.K. Wadleigh" writes >P.S.: I have more salmon then I know what to do with! (In Alaska) Great, we've got some salmon. Now, anyone got any Vera's? :) -- Jon Browne From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Oct 23 13:21:32 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:21:32 +0100 Subject: ICU! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Paul Mather writes >one of us >could actually try and run it to see what it does. > >Cheers, > >Paul. Did _anyone_ ever get this to run on their Spectrum at the time? Did it actually work? I never got mine to load and it was taped off my pristine copy, first time I played it. -- Jon Browne From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Oct 23 13:10:24 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:10:24 +0100 Subject: ICU! In-Reply-To: <326D31C9.5996@student.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: In message <326D31C9.5996 at student.uq.edu.au>, Max Wilcox writes >With the discussion of what HW albums to re-release, that seems to be >going on at present, I believe I shall add my vote to this topic: > INNER CITY UNIT!!!!!! I have no idea how many ICU fans there are out >there, but I believe that the albums are in a fairly short supply - >there only being one (or maybe two) that are still available, and from >what I have heard they are brill. Or mostly, anyway. One I'd >particularly love to see is the Imperial Pompadours one (anyone know >what Insolence Across the Nation's like?). > I've got the address to order one, but that's all, so if anyone knows >where to get any others I'd be most gracious to recieve any information >regarding them. > Danke, >-Max Wilcox Second that emotion. It took ages to get Passout on CD, I'd really like to see President's Tapes on CD (cos it's great) and Punkadelic (coz I haven't GOT IT!!!!) -- Jon Browne From acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK Thu Oct 24 04:40:17 1996 From: acobley at MIC.DUNDEE.AC.UK (Andy C) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:40:17 +0100 Subject: OFF: The HW WWW Site Message-ID: Actually you should always have a text only version and not just as a courtesy to the lynx users but because people with visual difficulties often rely on text readers to read the web pages. Pictures and fancy texts (especially the blink tag) can through these readers a real curve making the page impossible to read. Apart from that a visually impaired reader may have the text size really big making a complete mockery of your formatting. Andy C ---------- From: Stephen Swann Sent: 23 October 1996 20:53 To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: Site updates Hawkwind writes: > > Sorry for the problems guys, just trying to make a good page - anyone want a > 'text only' version? > Having that as an option is never a bad idea - most of the really big sites have graphics-intensive/low-bandwidth toggle switch for people using older browsers, or slow modems, or whatever. I realize that's not precisely analogous to the java/no-java problem, but it has a similar effect on the "usability" of certain sites. Steve swann at panix.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Chris Bates From C.D.Bates at SHU.AC.UK Thu Oct 24 05:22:52 1996 From: C.D.Bates at SHU.AC.UK (Chris Bates) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 10:22:52 +0100 Subject: Site updates Message-ID: Star_Rats wrote: > >"Anyone who slaps a "this page is best viewed with Browser X" label on a > >Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web, when > >you had very little chance of reading a document written on another > >computer, another word processor, or another network." > > > I've double checked and double checked and there is nothing wrong with the > Javascript syntax that is on the pages. I have had numerous comments about > this and all from I/Explorer users. It has always been a pretty standard > thing to mention which browser has been used to test the pages of a site > with (at least I don't put a 'choose your browser' page as the home page, as > many do), and I think the above quote is a litle unfair in this day and age > when every browser supports different tags and versions of their own script > language. You snipped the attribution from that quote. Tim Berners-Lee, for it was he, invented the idea of WWW as way of linking hypertext documents and so, whilst this doesn't necessarily give him extra authority, he has probably put more time and effort into thinking about WWW than you or I. What he is saying is simply that the point of WWW is that it enables both hypertext and platform independance, and hence to achieve this goal any hypertext document linked using the HTML protocol (aka WWW site) should be capable of being accessed in some form by the maximum number of readers. You state that every browser supports different tags etc, well not really. All browsers will view a text-only version of a site if that text is HTML compliant, where they fail is when accessing non-standard items such as java, javascript, the micro$oft extensions to HTML, blink (why for pitys sake?). Site designers must therefore decide on the trade-off between being *modern* or being generally accessible. Most just use everything fancy that they can then blame us, the browsing public, if we can't read their site!!! > Sorry for the problems guys, just trying to make a good page - anyone want a > 'text only' version? Yes. Chris Bates From a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK Thu Oct 24 06:56:34 1996 From: a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK (Andrew Fergus Wilson) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 10:56:34 -0000 Subject: Site updates Message-ID: > Sorry for the problems guys, just trying to make a good page - anyone want a > 'text only' version? > > Yours, > Star Rats ermmm, well, i feel a bit picky for having mentioned it now; all i have to do is click 'okay' in the error box and everything seems to work, erm, um, a-hem, uh, keep up the good work, 8-) andrew andrew f wilson "up and down round and round centre for social research story of my life" - Inner City Unit university of derby a.wilson at derby.ac.uk zedspace at geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/6368 http://yi.com/home/WilsonAndrew From christian.mumford at LOGIN.EUNET.NO Thu Oct 24 06:03:16 1996 From: christian.mumford at LOGIN.EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:03:16 +0200 Subject: Artists needed! Message-ID: To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List From: christmu at login.eunet.no (Christian Mumford) Subject: Re: Artists needed! >Reply to Mike Parkington about Re: Artists needed! > >I told my wife about your project (she's an artist) and she asked me to get >more details i.e. how long would each piece be, style, format and stuff. >She's not a great HW fan but does know the material, living with me she >couldn't avoid it ;) But I think she's very good. she has worked >proffesionatly before but not in comics. She has also been very ill for >sometime and this could be a good way to help her recover. > Hi, We are looking for straight adaptations of their songs into comics (but stay away from Moorcock's material- he'll be after my arse if he finds out!). I find Calvert's stuff particularly well suited to visual adaptation. Format wise I prefer to work upscale, about 10 x 15 inches or A3 format, and then scale it down to size. The book itself would be A4 size. The art would have to be in clear black & white line-art (i.e. no ink-washes), and be reproproducable on a photocopier. It is possible I'll do a color cover. Story length could be from 1 to 6 pages (but longer if needed), the total length of the book will be determined on the amount of material I can get. Hopefully more than 20 pages worth. It is possible I might get Matt Howarth (a comics artist who did, among other things, 'Those Annoying Post Bros.') involved - he's a Hawkwind fan and even had Brock or Turner make an appearance in one of his comics... Stories that are already 'taken' are Jack of Shadows and Spirit of The Age, and possibly Master of The Universe and Urban Guerilla. I think 'High Rise' is another good canditate, but non-Calvert material is needed too. Just let me know what song your wife might be interested in adapting, and hopefully I'll be able to put together this sometime next year! It doesen't necessaraly have to be straight comics, it can also be as an illustrated story. I also need to know about rights to use the lyrics - mr. Star_Rats? I'll need some other form of distribution (other than the net) - comix-shops, cons, zines, gigs, whatever, so anybody interested, please contact me..... I'm a little harder to get hold of these days, so my response may be a bit slow - >Anyway, let me know > >Si > >sihalley at vossnet.co.uk "I am not as much a vegetable as everything is vegetable soup" Christian Mumford "I am not as much a vegetable as everything is vegetable soup" Christian Mumford From HELLERS at A1.MGH.HARVARD.EDU Thu Oct 24 08:17:00 1996 From: HELLERS at A1.MGH.HARVARD.EDU (Scott Heller (617) 724-7762) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 07:17:00 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Interview Message-ID: Hello, I also had trouble with this site yesterday, but did get in and manage to read it. I was quite happy to hear that he was going to do some solo gigs. It will be interesting to see waht HW songs de decides to perform?? Anyway, when I printed the web page, all I got was the answeres, the questions failed to print..... SCott ObCs- BOC- Medina, MN 6/96 (Buck's boogie..) From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Thu Oct 24 07:41:00 1996 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:41:00 +0100 Subject: Artists needed! In-Reply-To: Christian Mumford's mail of Thu, 24 Oct 96 12:03 +0200 Message-ID: > We are looking for straight adaptations of their songs into comics (but stay > away from Moorcock's material- he'll be after my arse if he finds out!). Just in case you didn't realise, some of their other tracks are based on, or at least inspired by, other author's work. I assume that the authors concerned haven't complained about the music, but they (or their estates, in Zelazny's case) might be more fussy about comics. Examples are Jack Of Shadows, Lord Of Light, Damnation Alley (Zelazny), and High Rise (Ballard) > I find Calvert's stuff particularly well suited to visual adaptation. Surely the Alien 4 tracks are prime candidates? Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. Tel: +44 131 668 1564 From christian.mumford at LOGIN.EUNET.NO Thu Oct 24 08:02:18 1996 From: christian.mumford at LOGIN.EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:02:18 +0200 Subject: OFF : Fish trader (was UZ) Message-ID: >> Jon Browne >> >> OBCd Nuggets Vol.3 feat. The Barbarians "Are you a boy or are you a >girl?" >> with the great singalong '60's chorus "Yeah! You look like a girl!" > >in your skin tight pants, you look like a girl > > 'with your long blonde hair, you look like a girl' "I am not as much a vegetable as everything is vegetable soup" Christian Mumford From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Thu Oct 24 08:07:23 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:07:23 +0200 Subject: off:calling all swedes Message-ID: At 06:18 PM 10/23/96 EST, you wrote: >I ran across a band called L.E.G.G. while searching the database just >now. From the song titles, they would appear to be an attrocious 80s >hair band. Any details? >theo > > ...is this a Swedish band? I have never heard of them... sorry... What does L.E.G.G. mean? -Daniel Wikdahl . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From christian.mumford at LOGIN.EUNET.NO Thu Oct 24 08:07:15 1996 From: christian.mumford at LOGIN.EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 14:07:15 +0200 Subject: OFF: Zorn (was Re: CYM and SA) Message-ID: >> > I agree, the first Naked City album is excellent! If you like the short >> > (< 1 minute long) tracks on that album, it's also worth tracking down >> > either Torture Garden, which is 42 tracks in the same ilk; or their >> > third album, the name of which escapes me, which includes most of Torture >> > Garden along with reworkings of some classical stuff. After that they >> > get a bit variable. I have Heretic, which is mainly avant-garde-ish jazz. >> > I've heard that Radio is along the lines of their first album. >> >> I had Torture Garden a few years ago. I thought it was horrible (though >> my tastes, or lack thereof, have "expanded" quite a bit since then). >> Anyway, it struck me as just short bursts of noise and screaming. :-) > >So how does Painkiller etc fit in ? There's the Buried Secrets album (gross >sleeve photo of a handcuffed person digging up skulls) & maybe another (with >the serial killer photo on the insert). Haven't heard any of Zorn's stuff but >I must admit I'm curious. > All I have of Zorn-related stuff is what he did with Mr. Bungle (Mike Patton of Faith No More's bigtop-circus-industrial-jazz-metal-freak-out-band), producing, I believe. Recommended if one likes this sort of thing.... Patton also did guest vocals with Naked City at a Jazz festival in Norway some years ago. "I am not as much a vegetable as everything is vegetable soup" Christian Mumford From cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK Thu Oct 24 13:21:15 1996 From: cea20 at CUS.CAM.AC.UK (Carl Edlund Anderson) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:21:15 GMT+0100 Subject: Artists needed! Message-ID: --On tor 24 okt 1996 12.41 "Dave Berry" wrote: > Just in case you didn't realise, some of their other tracks are based on, > or at least inspired by, other author's work. I assume that the authors > concerned haven't complained about the music, but they (or their estates, > in Zelazny's case) might be more fussy about comics. > Examples are Jack Of Shadows, Lord Of Light, Damnation Alley (Zelazny), > and High Rise (Ballard) I dont actually recall much connection between Hawkwind's and Zelazy's respective Lords of Light, excepting the title--or is there some deeper connection which my shallow little mind has missed? :) (entirely possible) Cheers, Carl From skarsol at EROLS.COM Thu Oct 24 04:37:07 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:37:07 +0000 Subject: OFF: Nektar q&a,was superfairytales Message-ID: Jerry wrote: > It's funny to see how Remember The Future always comes out as one's > favourite album. I always liked Recycled and Journey To The Centre Of The > Eye better (both concept albums - one long track). > Recycled is about, as you might have guessed, Earth pollution (in 1975!). A > pure progressive rock album - which is why many Hawkwind fans might like RTF > better. > Journey To The Centre Of The Eye compares a journey in space to a journey on > the inside of the eye. The lyrics fit the music - 1971 Krautrock. More > psychedelic than Recycled. I think HW fans who like RTF should take a listen > to this one as well. > Last thing I learned about Roye Albrighton, Nektar's guitarist, is that Roye > thinks Recycled is Nektar's best album. He loves RTF, but Recycled is > marvellous... i have recycled,and i like it.but for some reason it just doesnt stand out. in memory,i always confuse the tracks on this album with those from "a tab in the ocean",another great album. i've never even seen a copy of Journey to th...,so i have no idea about this one. but now i want to.... rj From mordru at MAGG.NET Thu Oct 24 08:57:21 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:57:21 -0400 Subject: Artists needed! Message-ID: >Hopefully more than 20 pages worth. It is possible I might get Matt Howarth >(a comics artist who did, among other things, 'Those Annoying Post Bros.') >involved - he's a Hawkwind fan and even had Brock or Turner make an Matt.... Howarth... yes! He's the one person a local HW fan not on this group mentioned as his pick to do HW comics, and then he let me read his 'Annoying Post Brothers', an excellent comic "it's Mightiest Man!", very clean b&w style that gets the point across clearly and concisely. +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm From mordru at MAGG.NET Thu Oct 24 08:57:23 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 08:57:23 -0400 Subject: Alan Davey Interview Message-ID: > Hello, > > I also had trouble with this site yesterday, but did get in and > manage to read it. I was quite happy to hear that he was going to do > some solo gigs. It will be interesting to see waht HW songs de decides > to perform?? Anyway, when I printed the web page, all I got was the > answeres, the questions failed to print..... That's partly by design. The questions are in white text, on a dark backdrop, but when you print the backdrop doesn't, so you get white text on your white paper. With netscape, you can fix this (temporarily only) by going into the preferences and forcing it to use colors you set, and setting the text to black. Then, print, then change your defaults back afterwards. I would imagine most browsers should also be able to do this without difficulty... +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm From mordru at MAGG.NET Thu Oct 24 09:04:42 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:04:42 -0400 Subject: Artists needed! Message-ID: >--On tor 24 okt 1996 12.41 "Dave Berry" wrote: >> Just in case you didn't realise, some of their other tracks are based on, >> or at least inspired by, other author's work. I assume that the authors >> concerned haven't complained about the music, but they (or their estates, >> in Zelazny's case) might be more fussy about comics. >> Examples are Jack Of Shadows, Lord Of Light, Damnation Alley (Zelazny), >> and High Rise (Ballard) > > I dont actually recall much connection between Hawkwind's and Zelazy's >respective Lords of Light, excepting the title--or is there some deeper >connection which my shallow little mind has missed? :) (entirely possible) Sam, or Mahasamatman, the protagonist of 'Lord of Light', fought a long battle against the heavenly establishment and was eventually defeated (this part is told after awhile as he remembers). To remove him from the scene/eliminate him as a threat, he is then transmitted, of sorts, into an electromagnetic flux/ cloud spectrum something or other which orbits the planet, something he later describes as the ultimate experience. It is this from which Yama calls him back at the start of the book, to lead them against the hindu pantheon once again. It is basically this electromagnetic trip that Sam was trapped in that I believe the song is describing.... +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Thu Oct 24 10:20:17 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 09:20:17 EST Subject: off:calling all swedes Message-ID: >>From Daniel: > At 06:18 PM 10/23/96 EST, you wrote: > >I ran across a band called L.E.G.G. while searching the database just > >now. From the song titles, they would appear to be an attrocious 80s > >hair band. Any details? > >theo > > > > > ...is this a Swedish band? I have never heard of them... sorry... > What does L.E.G.G. mean? > > -Daniel Wikdahl > > . Daniel, No idea on either count. The album was released on a Swedish label, but all the song titles were in English. The titles were so awful I'm almost thinking it's a parody band? theo From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Thu Oct 24 10:13:25 1996 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:13:25 +0200 Subject: off:calling all swedes Message-ID: >> At 06:18 PM 10/23/96 EST, you wrote: >> >I ran across a band called L.E.G.G. while searching the database just >> >now. From the song titles, they would appear to be an attrocious 80s >> >hair band. Any details? >> >theo >> > >> > >> ...is this a Swedish band? I have never heard of them... sorry... >> What does L.E.G.G. mean? >> >> -Daniel Wikdahl >> >> . >Daniel, >No idea on either count. The album was released on a Swedish label, >but all the song titles were in English. The titles were so awful >I'm almost thinking it's a parody band? >theo what was the label? \\joe From Christopher.Stier at LEXIS-NEXIS.COM Thu Oct 24 12:47:23 1996 From: Christopher.Stier at LEXIS-NEXIS.COM (Stier, Christopher) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:47:23 -0400 Subject: HW:TEST sorry folks Message-ID: Sorry folks. Just a test... Chris Stier San Francisco x4445 From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Thu Oct 24 12:56:14 1996 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:56:14 -0400 Subject: So Long Message-ID: Hey, I'm going to England tomorrow. Back in two weeks time. A messabe with the body "SET BOC-L NOMAIL" to listserv at listserv.spc.edu will temporarily disconnect me, right? See ya later Martyn From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Thu Oct 24 14:11:38 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 13:11:38 EST Subject: off:calling all swedes Message-ID: > >> ...is this a Swedish band? I have never heard of them... sorry... > >> What does L.E.G.G. mean? > >> > >> -Daniel Wikdahl > >> > >> . > >Daniel, > >No idea on either count. The album was released on a Swedish label, > >but all the song titles were in English. The titles were so awful > >I'm almost thinking it's a parody band? > >theo > > what was the label? > \\joe It was, I swear, the "Garageland" label from Umea Sweden, and the album title is "Straight Down the Middle." You see my point about it being a possible parody, eh? theo From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 24 18:19:31 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 18:19:31 BST Subject: OFF: Re: So Long In-Reply-To: Martyn White's message of Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:56:14 -0400 Message-ID: Martyn White writes: > Hey, > I'm going to England tomorrow. Back in two > weeks time. Hi welcome to the UK. If you're in Scotland at all during your travels then let us know. Oh and by the way it's raining! > A message with the body "SET BOC-L NOMAIL" > to listserv at listserv.spc.edu will temporarily disconnect me, right? > yep - should do. Have fun! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From stayer at PI.NET Thu Oct 24 21:08:12 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 18:08:12 PDT Subject: OFF: Nektar q&a,was superfairytales Message-ID: [ Recycled or RTF ] Jerry recommended Journey To The Centre Of The Eye. RJ replied: >i have recycled,and i like it.but for some reason it just doesnt stand >out. in memory,i always confuse the tracks on this album with those from >"a tab in the ocean",another great album. >i've never even seen a copy of Journey to th...,so i have no idea about >this one. but now i want to.... Journey is their first album (1971). The CD is on Bellaphon 289-09-007. The cover shows a close-up of an eye - the pupil fills the whole of the front cover. I hope you can find it somewhere. Jerry From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Thu Oct 24 21:18:19 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Damon C Capehart) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 20:18:19 -0500 Subject: Alan Davey Interview In-Reply-To: <199610241257.IAA07931@grumpy.magg.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Andrew A. Apold wrote: > That's partly by design. The questions are in white text, on a dark > backdrop, but when you print the backdrop doesn't, so you get white text > on your white paper. > > With netscape, you can fix this (temporarily only) by going into the > preferences and forcing it to use colors you set, and setting the text > to black. Then, print, then change your defaults back afterwards. I > would imagine most browsers should also be able to do this without > difficulty... Or do what I do: Just download the page as a textfile (as opposed to the source code) and print that. Damon C Capehart | aka Le Monsieur Damon | dcapehar at utdallas.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have questions about the QUEST Bible studies and prayer meetings at U.T.D. or about QUEST in general, e-mail me at QUEST at utdallas.edu, or visit the QUEST website, maintained by scarson at utdallas.edu, at http://www.utdallas.edu/orgs/quest/ From mordru at MAGG.NET Fri Oct 25 00:55:25 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 00:55:25 -0400 Subject: Alan Davey Interview Message-ID: >> With netscape, you can fix this (temporarily only) by going into the >> preferences and forcing it to use colors you set, and setting the text >> to black. Then, print, then change your defaults back afterwards. I >> would imagine most browsers should also be able to do this without >> difficulty... > >Or do what I do: >Just download the page as a textfile (as opposed to the source code) and >print that. Yeah, but you sometimes miss the pics on your printouts that way =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From stayer at PI.NET Fri Oct 25 02:22:42 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 23:22:42 PDT Subject: off:calling all swedes Message-ID: Theo asked about L.E.G.G. Daniel Wikdahl: >> >> ...is this a Swedish band? I have never heard of them... sorry... >> >> What does L.E.G.G. mean? Theo: >> >No idea on either count. The album was released on a Swedish label, >> >but all the song titles were in English. The titles were so awful >> >I'm almost thinking it's a parody band? Theo: >It was, I swear, the "Garageland" label from Umea Sweden, and the >album title is "Straight Down the Middle." You see my point about it >being a possible parody, eh? Garageland is a quite serious label. Not that I like the music they put out, but they keep sending our magazine a lot of CDs. We're a progrock magazine, and the music is very, and I mean /very/ experimental. There might be some re-issues of very, and I mean /very/ obscure albums, but I'm not sure. But I think they're too serious to release a parody. Jerry From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Oct 24 13:12:01 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 18:12:01 +0100 Subject: OFF : Fish Traders In-Reply-To: <199610240907.KAA15282@teak.shu.ac.uk> Message-ID: In message <199610240907.KAA15282 at teak.shu.ac.uk>, Chris Bates writes >The obtuse and probably dangerous Jon Browne wrote: > >> "A.K. Wadleigh" writes >> >P.S.: I have more salmon then I know what to do with! (In Alaska) >> >> Great, we've got some salmon. Now, anyone got any Vera's? :) > >OK Veras, no problem mate, with you there. But salmon? Try as >I might I can't work that one out. Knew a guy who was afraid his >'phone was tapped so he would ring up and talk about *carpet* >which he would offer as a Henry (eighth) or a Louis (sixteenth). >Carpet wasn't rhyming slang and I hope that Salmon isn't either! > > >Chris Bates It is. Salmon'n'trout - snout! I had to ask in the end too. I think every head in the world must use Henry and Louis, though! Can I borrow a tin of cat food? :) -- Jon Browne From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Fri Oct 25 04:46:00 1996 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 09:46:00 +0100 Subject: OFF : Fish Traders In-Reply-To: Jon Browne's mail of Thu, 24 Oct 96 18:12 +0100 Message-ID: > It is. Salmon'n'trout - snout! I had to ask in the end too. I think > every head in the world must use Henry and Louis, though! Can I borrow a > tin of cat food? :) Some of us refer to cheese, which is often bought in quarters (just the units differ!). Plus you can have cheese rolls... Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. Tel: +44 131 668 1564 From mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK Fri Oct 25 09:59:12 1996 From: mdp at TADPOLE.CO.UK (Mike Parkington) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 09:59:12 +-100 Subject: OFF : Fish Traders Message-ID: Henry and Louis, mucho bizzaro!! not terms I have ever used, please clue me in. Obviously I haven't been watching enough East Enders recently. Cor blimey mate, apples and pears apples and pears see you darn the rub-a-dub wiv me ole missus. fancy a pint, do what cor blimey Frank Butcher is a geeeeezer, innit? Come back Dick van Dyke(?) all is forgiven. Mike P AKA Doctor Nozzle It is. Salmon'n'trout - snout! I had to ask in the end too. I think every head in the world must use Henry and Louis, though! 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The Barbarians "Are you a boy or are you a >>girl?" >>> with the great singalong '60's chorus "Yeah! You look like a girl!" >> >>in your skin tight pants, you look like a girl >> >> > >'with your long blonde hair, you look like a girl' With my long blonde hair, I look like Kurt Cobain, actually. I'll take the line about the pants as a compliment, though. "You may be a boy YEAH! You look like a girl!" -- Jon Browne From skarsol at EROLS.COM Fri Oct 25 03:13:01 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 07:13:01 +0000 Subject: Hawklords --> "25 Years On" boxed set Message-ID: A.K. Wadleigh wrote: > > Your opinion gentlemen (and ladies) of the "25 Years On" (boxed set)? i bought two. had credit in this local store from trades,about 50 bucks worth, so i used it on a second copy of this. i recommend it to anyone who wants a slew of hw music but doesnt want to buy the entire catalog.packaging is terrific. good mix of eras. they did a fantastic job on this. of course, it IS a compilation.... but i do not regret buying it. rj From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Fri Oct 25 09:11:22 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 09:11:22 -0400 Subject: BOC: News Message-ID: Had a conversation with Bolle last night - and no, we didn't talk about BOC-L ;) Work for the future album is coming along well. Only one more BOC show planned for this year to devote more time to the album. Chuck Burgi is back in the band for the foreseeable future. Some of the songs being considered for the album: Harvest Moon, Still Burnin', See You In Black, Power Underneath Despair, Cold Grey Light of Dawn, Live For Me, X-Ray Eyes. Contrary to what someone reported as being played at a recent gig, there is no song entitled "Joey". Morning Final #14 should be out fairly soon - just some production details to work out, and Bolle hopes to provide a bit more info on the upcoming album. After that, plans are to continue the fanclub with issues of MF coming out approximately twice a year (MF #15, if "the stars are right", will probably come out just prior to the new album, and will contain lots of info on it, including the making of it). Also, Bolle says that work is well underway to do the MF1-10 compilation, and should be ready for release in the near future. Unclear of Allen's writing contributions on the new album, but Bolle says he has written some stuff with Jim Carroll, which is on Carroll's new album. Bolle, like many of us, is eagerly anticipating the release of *Box of Hammers*. John From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Fri Oct 25 09:38:56 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 15:38:56 +0200 Subject: TEST PLEASE IGNORE Message-ID: Ett litet test bara -Daniel "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From AJBEE at JAZZ.UCC.UNO.EDU Sat Oct 26 00:18:46 1996 From: AJBEE at JAZZ.UCC.UNO.EDU (AJBEE at JAZZ.UCC.UNO.EDU) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 22:18:46 -0600 Subject: BOC: CDs needed Message-ID: After lurking for a month, this is my first post. Does anyone have extra copies of or know where to get the following CDs: Club Ninja, Mirrors, Flat Out, Imaginos. I can't find them anywhere. Also, for a list named BOC, there isn't much talk of BOC. In fact, I thought I had subscribed to a Hawkwind-only list until that Bolle crap did the rounds. Alton Broussard AJBEE at uno.edu From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Sat Oct 26 01:05:12 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 15:05:12 +1000 Subject: BOC: CDs needed In-Reply-To: <01IB2QLVQWEW90C1J6@jazz.ucc.uno.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 25 Oct 1996 AJBEE at JAZZ.UCC.UNO.EDU wrote: > After lurking for a month, this is my first post. > > Does anyone have extra copies of or know where to get the following CDs: > Club Ninja, Mirrors, Flat Out, Imaginos. I think they are all available throgh CBS/Columbia, except Flat out, which is evidently on some French label. I am also hoping to get that on CD one day. I have all the others, and I live in Australia. I f they are available here, they are available ANYWHERE. > I can't find them anywhere. Also, for a list named BOC, there isn't > much talk of BOC. In fact, I thought I had subscribed to a Hawkwind-only > list until that Bolle crap did the rounds. All you gotta do is bring up the topics yourself, as you have done. :) Troy From stayer at PI.NET Sat Oct 26 15:39:32 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 12:39:32 PDT Subject: BOC: CDs needed Message-ID: Alton said: >Does anyone have extra copies of or know where to get the following CDs: >Club Ninja, Mirrors, Flat Out, Imaginos. I can't find them anywhere. Well, I live in Holland, and they're quite easy to get. Maybe Imaginos is a bit harder, but I can order it, I am sure. Where do you live? >Also, for a list named BOC, there isn't much talk of BOC. In fact, I >thought I had subscribed to a Hawkwind-only list until that Bolle crap >did the rounds. Not much going on concerning BOC. Just one gig to go this year, if I'm correct, and then it's recording a new album... Just bring up some topics yourself and others will respond. Er, you just did... Jerry From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Oct 26 04:40:49 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 09:40:49 +0100 Subject: BOC: CDs needed In-Reply-To: <01IB2QLVQWEW90C1J6@jazz.ucc.uno.edu> Message-ID: In message <01IB2QLVQWEW90C1J6 at jazz.ucc.uno.edu>, AJBEE at JAZZ.UCC.UNO.EDU writes >After lurking for a month, this is my first post. > >Does anyone have extra copies of or know where to get the following CDs: >Club Ninja, Mirrors, Flat Out, Imaginos. >I can't find them anywhere. Also, for a list named BOC, there isn't >much talk of BOC. In fact, I thought I had subscribed to a Hawkwind-only >list until that Bolle crap did the rounds. > >Alton Broussard >AJBEE at uno.edu Welcome to BOC-L. It's not unusual for one band to dominate traffic but it does swing between the two. I'm sure any BOC topics you want to raise will be responded to. Have fun, -- Jon Browne From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Sat Oct 26 10:37:29 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 16:37:29 +0200 Subject: Alan Davey Interview Message-ID: Sorry... but this is the only mail that I have received since yesterday morning... I think the netwirk at my school is fucked up again... don't try to reach me... -Daniel At 08:18 PM 10/24/96 -0500, you wrote: >On Thu, 24 Oct 1996, Andrew A. Apold wrote: >> That's partly by design. The questions are in white text, on a dark >> backdrop, but when you print the backdrop doesn't, so you get white text >> on your white paper. >> >> With netscape, you can fix this (temporarily only) by going into the >> preferences and forcing it to use colors you set, and setting the text >> to black. Then, print, then change your defaults back afterwards. I >> would imagine most browsers should also be able to do this without >> difficulty... > >Or do what I do: >Just download the page as a textfile (as opposed to the source code) and >print that. > > Damon C Capehart | aka Le Monsieur Damon | dcapehar at utdallas.edu >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >If you have questions about the QUEST Bible studies and prayer meetings at > U.T.D. or about QUEST in general, e-mail me at QUEST at utdallas.edu, > or visit the QUEST website, maintained by scarson at utdallas.edu, at > http://www.utdallas.edu/orgs/quest/ > > "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Fri Oct 25 22:07:50 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 13:07:50 +1100 Subject: ICU! Message-ID: > Aside from _Pass Out_, _New Anatomy_ is also available on CD, kompleat > with Sinclair ZX Spectrum program and all! I think the appearance of > this release on CD has more to do with Dave Anderson's involvement than > anything else. Does anyone know where I can get New Anatomy? Steve Pond says it was crap, but what do other people think of it? Is it worth getting? - Max Wilcox From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Sat Oct 26 11:25:23 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 23:25:23 +0800 Subject: Artists needed! Message-ID: Christian Mumford wrote: ... Stories that are already 'taken' are Jack > of Shadows and Spirit of The Age, and possibly Master of The Universe and > Urban Guerilla. I think 'High Rise' is another good canditate, but > non-Calvert material is needed too. Some of the Hawkwind songs, such as "High Rise", "Jack of Shadows", etc., are based on novels by other well known authors as well. Not only Mr. Moorcock, but others as well could be after your hide re. copyright. William From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Sat Oct 26 11:56:14 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 15:56:14 UT Subject: ICU! Message-ID: > Does anyone know where I can get New Anatomy? Steve Pond says it >was >crap, but what do other people think of it? Is it worth getting? He's a bit modest - it's only *mostly* crap! "Birdland" is really good, and there's a couple of other high spots. But "Forbidden Planet" and "Stop the City" are really pretty crummy, and it's far and away ICU's worst album. Is it worth getting? Tightwad heretic! :)) Only if it's cheap, I'd say. - Andy From paul at PCMICRO.COM.AU Sat Oct 26 12:04:51 1996 From: paul at PCMICRO.COM.AU (Paul G Ward) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 03:04:51 +1100 Subject: HW/OFF: Rock of Ages stock-list Message-ID: Hi all, Have any of you seen the "rock of Ages" (http://www.rockofa.demon.co.uk/) site? This is the HW they have in stock at the moment: HAWKLORDS PSI POER 7" CB323 UK ?10 HAWKWIND 1988 TOUR PROGRAMME UK ?10 HAWKWIND ASTOUNDING SOUNDS PROGRAMME ?20 HAWKWIND CHRONICLE OF BLACK SWORD PROGRAMME ?10 HAWKWIND DEC 74 - FEB 75 TOUR PROGRAMME UK ?25 HAWKWIND PROMO PHOTO B+W FROM 70'S ?10 HAWKWIND READING ROCK 1986 PROGRAMME ?15 HAWKWIND SILVER MACHINE/URBAN 7" REISSUE DOUBLE HIT GERMAN ?8 Paul -- "If we knew what we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Ward, R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd ................................................................... Phone/Fax: +61 3 9888-9333/+61 3 9888-9001 Business Mail: mailto:paul at pcmicro.com.au ................................................................... Private Mail: mailto:sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au World Wide Web: http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- From paul at PCMICRO.COM.AU Sat Oct 26 12:20:52 1996 From: paul at PCMICRO.COM.AU (Paul G Ward) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 03:20:52 +1100 Subject: HW: Brock on the Net? Message-ID: Hmmmm .... ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- > de snail he brought postcard of Young Marvelman Annual > > message: > > "Hullo folks nearly on the net then it's no more postcards.Kris is > progressing on computer so soon we will send a coded > message.Becoming autumnal damp creeping in still we are to > november for 2 gigs yours Brock." Paul -- "If we knew what we were doing, it would not be called research, would it?" - Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Ward, R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd ................................................................... Phone/Fax: +61 3 9888-9333/+61 3 9888-9001 Business Mail: mailto:paul at pcmicro.com.au ................................................................... Private Mail: mailto:sonique at www.pcmicro.com.au World Wide Web: http://www.pcmicro.com.au/~Sonique/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- From skarsol at EROLS.COM Sat Oct 26 08:58:56 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 12:58:56 +0000 Subject: HW:attn, bernhard!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: apologies everyone,but bernhard was looking for this! Paul G Ward wrote: > > Hi all, > > Have any of you seen the "rock of Ages" > (http://www.rockofa.demon.co.uk/) site? This is the HW they have in > stock at the moment: > > HAWKLORDS PSI POER 7" CB323 UK ?10 > HAWKWIND 1988 TOUR PROGRAMME UK ?10 > HAWKWIND ASTOUNDING SOUNDS PROGRAMME ?20 > HAWKWIND CHRONICLE OF BLACK SWORD PROGRAMME ?10 > HAWKWIND DEC 74 - FEB 75 TOUR PROGRAMME UK ?25 > HAWKWIND PROMO PHOTO B+W FROM 70'S ?10""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" > HAWKWIND READING ROCK 1986 PROGRAMME {{{{{LOOK!!!!!!}}}}}}}}} ?15^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > HAWKWIND SILVER MACHINE/URBAN 7" REISSUE DOUBLE HIT GERMAN ?8 > > Paul again,sorry.... rj From s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU Sat Oct 26 02:06:13 1996 From: s333271 at STUDENT.UQ.EDU.AU (Max Wilcox) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:06:13 +1100 Subject: HW: Breast-Jiggling Message-ID: Two things. The first concerns the Wishart HW stuff. Which albums is she on? I'm surprised that I haven't heard her at all. What are people's views on her work with them? The second is with regards to the "breast-jiggling" syndrome that seems to be quite prevalent in much live HW stuff. Has anyone ever seen a concert that -doesn't- have silly women running around, that look like they've just come out of the audience a few minutes before the show started? In the few videos that I've seen, I always rue the presence of these people. For example, I was just watching the Black Sword concert. It would be a perfectly good concert if those silly people weren't running around in leotards, waving their arms about. Any while I'm at it, the Elric of the said concert (the person who plays him), lookes more like a clown, than Moorcock's moderately interesting character. I always disagreed with people who, such as the chap who runs the blanga HW page, dislike Moorcock's presence with the band, describing it as infantile fantasy stuff. But, after watching this video again, I can at least understand why he said this, even if I don't agree with it. I don't see why they can't just have themselves on stage. Or, failing that, have this dancing stuff a little more choreographed than it is. I haven't seen the Love in Space video, yet, but, looking at the sleeve of the CD, it seems to be a little better. I always did like the fire breathing, and other theatrical/circus sort of techniques that are used. It's just those darn arm waving people..... -Max Wilcox (Well, I'm glad I got that off my chest.....) From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Sat Oct 26 16:12:00 1996 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 21:12:00 +0100 Subject: ICU! In-Reply-To: Max Wilcox's mail of Sat, 26 Oct 96 13:07 +1100 Message-ID: > Does anyone know where I can get New Anatomy? I have seen it on CD, probably at Andy's Records in Cambridge (UK). I don't rate it much. Their first two albums are the best, IMO. They were totally brilliant live. Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. Tel: +44 131 668 1564 From JenWaldorf at AOL.COM Sat Oct 26 16:59:30 1996 From: JenWaldorf at AOL.COM (Jennifer Waldorf) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 16:59:30 -0400 Subject: BOC: CDs needed Message-ID: In a message dated 96-10-25 23:22:29 EDT, you write: << Does anyone have extra copies of or know where to get the following CDs: Club Ninja, Mirrors, Flat Out, Imaginos. I can't find them anywhere. Also, for a list named BOC, there isn't >> What part of the country do you live in? I think I've seen most of those at Circuit City, Tucson AZ. Jen From mordru at MAGG.NET Sat Oct 26 17:27:18 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:27:18 -0400 Subject: BOC: CDs needed Message-ID: >I can't find them anywhere. Also, for a list named BOC, there isn't >much talk of BOC. In fact, I thought I had subscribed to a Hawkwind-only >list until that Bolle crap did the rounds. Well, just wait 'till BOH and BOC's new album are available... Currently this fall BOC isn't playing as much as they normally do, so there's not even setlists to post about. Well, there's the rumour about Eric's voice being a little sore, so they're "resting" it for the studio by doing mainly tunes where Buck sings... All I've heard is guessing, though, anyone have anything concrete on this? =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Sat Oct 26 19:11:18 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 23:11:18 UT Subject: HW: Breast-Jiggling Message-ID: > The first concerns the Wishart HW stuff. Which albums is she on? I'm >surprised that I haven't heard her at all. What are people's views on >her work with them? Space Bandits (poor) and Palace Springs (really rather good). But then again she's only on a couple of tracks on each. > The second is with regards to the "breast-jiggling" syndrome that >seems >to be quite prevalent in much live HW stuff. Ever since the much-loved Stacia, in fact! 'Course, back in the '70s, this was really right on - having a nude dancer, that is. And there's also that splendid news cutting in the Tait book, "Group pops up in the nude", from 1971. So there was more than just breasts jiggling in those days... Not that "jiggling" really does Stacia justice :) I think Hawkwind have usually had dancers, often male *and* female, ever since I first saw them in the '70s. I don't always find them very memorable, although I have to admit the attractive woman in lingerie in '88 does remain in the memory... I did enjoy the dancers, and the excellent trapeze artist, this year. Curiously, I'd seen a topless trapeze artist (with Archaos) in the same venue just a few weeks earlier... and motorbikes in a cage, and a man on fire, but that's beside the point :) - Andy From paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU Sat Oct 26 21:41:34 1996 From: paul at CSGRAD.CS.VT.EDU (Paul Mather) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 21:41:34 -0400 Subject: ICU! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, Andrew Gilham wrote: > > Does anyone know where I can get New Anatomy? Steve Pond says it >was > >crap, but what do other people think of it? Is it worth getting? > > He's a bit modest - it's only *mostly* crap! "Birdland" is really good, and > there's a couple of other high spots. But "Forbidden Planet" and "Stop the > City" are really pretty crummy, and it's far and away ICU's worst album. I second Andy's comments. Put your energy into hunting down the other ICU albums. _New Anatomy_ should be *fairly* easy to hunt down in the UK, as it was released on that label that Dave Anderson runs (Thunderbolt? Demi-Monde?)---the one that seems to have no trouble in flooding the market with seemingly infinite numbers of kompilations of early Hawkwind material. ;-) Cheers, Paul. obLatestScore: 6th Game, 5th innings: NY: 3, ATL: 1 e-mail: paul at csgrad.cs.vt.edu A stranger in a strange land. From scruto19 at POTSDAM.EDU Sat Oct 26 22:05:29 1996 From: scruto19 at POTSDAM.EDU (Jason Scruton) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 22:05:29 -0400 Subject: BOC: In Search of... Imaginos: extinct CD or just misplaced? Message-ID: For some reason, I remember looking through "the Brain" interactive catalog at the local "the Wall" store and recall noticing that _Imaginos_ was being discontinued... Don't know if that's certain or not, but it stuck in my head as not a good thing either way. Jason From mannyrp at SPRYNET.COM Thu Oct 24 14:33:29 1996 From: mannyrp at SPRYNET.COM (Richard Manny) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 11:33:29 -0700 Subject: BOC: CDs needed Message-ID: Andrew A. Apold wrote: > Well, just wait 'till BOH and BOC's new album are available... < What is BOH? Best regards, Richard From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sat Oct 26 23:50:20 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 23:50:20 -0400 Subject: HW: Breast-Jiggling Message-ID: In a message dated 96-10-26 15:07:23 EDT, you write: >The second is with regards to the "breast-jiggling" syndrome that seems >to be quite prevalent in much live HW stuff. Has anyone ever seen a >concert that -doesn't- have silly women running around, that look like >they've just come out of the audience a few minutes before the show >started? If you don't like "breast-jiggling" your in the wrong room buster. And stop talking negatively about it before someone gets the bright idea to stop it. I'm really steamed over this one I'll tell ya. From now on, you can say anything you want about the Band, me, my wife, my mother, but leave "breast-jiggling alone. Is nothing SACRED??? regards, Bill Stewart From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sat Oct 26 23:57:01 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 23:57:01 -0400 Subject: Alan Davey TOUR Message-ID: Just got word from usually reliable sources...Alan will tour Europe the beginning of DEC. Holland, Germany, and Brussels are scheduled. I believe Tilburg and Amsterdam are confirmed. The line-up will be Alan, Danny Thompson on drums, and the great guitar player from Capt. Rizz (sorry can't recall his name and the cds are lent out). No word of Ron Tree. regards, Bill "jiggling-breasts" Stewart From Stewartbas at AOL.COM Sat Oct 26 23:59:57 1996 From: Stewartbas at AOL.COM (Bill Stewart) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 23:59:57 -0400 Subject: OFF: YANKEES WIN Message-ID: Just in case u didn't know. The NY Yankees are once again the World Champs. All is right with the world tonight......I even forgive that rable rouser anti jiggler guy. regards, Bill Stewart From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Sun Oct 27 08:02:00 1996 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 13:02:00 +0000 Subject: Alan Davey TOUR In-Reply-To: Bill Stewart's mail of Sat, 26 Oct 96 23:57 -0400 Message-ID: > Bill "jiggling-breasts" Stewart Aw, c'mon, Bill. You aren't *that* fat! :-) :-) :-) :-) Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. Tel: +44 131 668 1564 From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Sun Oct 27 08:04:00 1996 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 13:04:00 +0000 Subject: HW: Breast-Jiggling In-Reply-To: Andrew Gilham's mail of Sat, 26 Oct 96 23:11 +0000 Message-ID: > Space Bandits (poor) and Palace Springs (really rather good). But then again > she's only on a couple of tracks on each. California Brainstorm (good). Also the Live Legends and USA 89-90 videos, where you can see the performance art stuff that Alan Davey mentioned in his interview. Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. Tel: +44 131 668 1564 From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Sun Oct 27 08:35:41 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 14:35:41 +0100 Subject: HW:attn, bernhard!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: At 12:58 26.10.96 +0000, you wrote: """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" """"""""" >> HAWKWIND READING ROCK 1986 PROGRAMME {{{{{LOOK!!!!!!}}}}}}}}} ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ Thanks for the info Ron but.......I've received the programme 4 days ago!! cheers Bernhard From JMBpackers at AOL.COM Sun Oct 27 20:29:42 1996 From: JMBpackers at AOL.COM (J M Blahnik) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:29:42 -0500 Subject: BOC: CDs needed Message-ID: In a message dated 96-10-26 21:04:25 EST, you write: << > Well, just wait 'till BOH and BOC's new album are available... < What is BOH? >> BOH is the upcoming album from the Brain Surgeons, Al Bouchard and his wife's band. Jim From christian.mumford at LOGIN.EUNET.NO Mon Oct 28 02:09:41 1996 From: christian.mumford at LOGIN.EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 08:09:41 +0100 Subject: OFF : Fish trader (was UZ) Message-ID: >>>> Jon Browne >>>> >>>> OBCd Nuggets Vol.3 feat. The Barbarians "Are you a boy or are you a >>>girl?" >>>> with the great singalong '60's chorus "Yeah! You look like a girl!" >>> >>>in your skin tight pants, you look like a girl >>> >>> >> >>'with your long blonde hair, you look like a girl' > >With my long blonde hair, I look like Kurt Cobain, actually. > Hey Jon, you must have read the recent Preacher Special from DC/Vertigo? Don't get any crazy ideas.... >I'll take the line about the pants as a compliment, though. > >"You may be a boy YEAH! You look like a girl!" >-- >Jon Browne -------------------------------------------------------------- "I am not as much a vegetable as everything is vegetable soup" Christian Mumford From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Oct 26 12:50:10 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:50:10 +0100 Subject: ICU! In-Reply-To: <32717276.3950@student.uq.edu.au> Message-ID: In message <32717276.3950 at student.uq.edu.au>, Max Wilcox writes >> Aside from _Pass Out_, _New Anatomy_ is also available on CD, kompleat >> with Sinclair ZX Spectrum program and all! I think the appearance of >> this release on CD has more to do with Dave Anderson's involvement than >> anything else. > > Does anyone know where I can get New Anatomy? Steve Pond says it was >crap, but what do other people think of it? Is it worth getting? > >- Max Wilcox I like it, it's not their best but it has it's moments alright. It's certainly not crap. As a full studio set, I'd get it before any lives or comps. If you don't expect the Earth, you won't be dissapointed. -- Jon Browne ObCD The Verve "A Northern Soul" From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Sat Oct 26 12:54:43 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 17:54:43 +0100 Subject: ICU! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Andrew Gilham writes >> Does anyone know where I can get New Anatomy? Steve Pond says it >was >>crap, but what do other people think of it? Is it worth getting? > >He's a bit modest - it's only *mostly* crap! "Birdland" is really good, and >there's a couple of other high spots. But "Forbidden Planet" and "Stop the >City" are really pretty crummy, and it's far and away ICU's worst album. The two tracks that spring to my mind as high points! FP having a fine lyric "Spaceships, Oh you silver needles!" which is also the standard line when doing Nik impersonations down the pub. Stop the City also has the fine lyric "In the temple, the big skateboarder zig-zags through the law and order." Genius! :) > >Is it worth getting? Tightwad heretic! :)) Only if it's cheap, I'd say. Mid-price is good for me. > >- Andy -- Jon Browne From christian.mumford at LOGIN.EUNET.NO Mon Oct 28 04:15:58 1996 From: christian.mumford at LOGIN.EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:15:58 +0100 Subject: Artists needed! Message-ID: >Christian Mumford wrote: >... Stories that are already 'taken' are Jack >> of Shadows and Spirit of The Age, and possibly Master of The Universe and >> Urban Guerilla. I think 'High Rise' is another good canditate, but >> non-Calvert material is needed too. > >Some of the Hawkwind songs, such as "High Rise", "Jack of Shadows", >etc., are based on novels by other well known authors as well. Not only >Mr. Moorcock, but others as well could be after your hide re. copyright. > >William > > But the authors haven't been after the Hawks' hides (feathers???) have they?? I picked up on the Zelazny reference in Damnation Alley, but he isn't credited even if the title and scenario are straight out of the novel... -------------------------------------------------------------- "I am not as much a vegetable as everything is vegetable soup" Christian Mumford From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 28 05:12:14 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:12:14 GMT Subject: Hawkwind in Record Collector Message-ID: Well done Star Rats! Two large picture adverts for the EBS in Record Collector this month (well November actually) - it's the most Hawkwind advertising I've seen there for ....ever, I think! There are one or two vinyl items mentioned in the for sale columns but nothing exciting but, yes, Bernard - there's a copy of the READING 86 programme for sale as mentioned previously on this list. And, off topic, for those who are interested in Porcupine Tree there's quite a good historical article on them. jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM Mon Oct 28 10:12:36 1996 From: shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM (shillada at GATWICK.GECO-PRAKLA.SLB.COM) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:12:36 GMT Subject: BOC : and yet more trouble finding 'Imaginos' Message-ID: recent posts have been coming in from people saying how hard it is to find 'Imaginos'. I ordered this from my local record shop (Virgin), over a month ago, but they claim it "must be out of stock". No shit, Sherlock, but where's me cd ? :-) Why is this cd so hard to locate, or order for that matter ? Anyone know, or know someone who might shed some light on this frustrating problem ? Cheers, Neil From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Mon Oct 28 10:25:19 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 10:25:19 -0500 Subject: BOC: Answers Message-ID: This info is somewhat redundant, but just to be sure all the recent questions were answered... 1. Alton - welcome to BOC-L. As others have said, conversation of BOC goes up and down. Right now there's not much new to talk about, and some of us have rehashed old topics so many times that we may be a bit tired of talking about them. But, feel free to post questions, observations, or info. We're mostly a likeably bunch, even if some folks think we suck ;-) 2. BOH, for anyone who doesn't know, stands for "Box of Hammers", the title of the upcoming CD release by the Brain Surgeons (formed by Albert Bouchard and Deborah Frost - BOC-L listmembers - and rumour has it that Albert may have played drums for BOC a few times ;-) ). The Brain Surgeons play some smokin' tunes, and anyone who likes heavy music, and some of BOC's cooler tunes (and I'm not talking about the "hits") will appreciate The Brain Surgeons' music (by the way, tBS is often used on this list as shorthand for the Brain Surgeons). 3. To find out lots of info on BOC, including fanclub info, a discography, and answers to age old questions like "What is a diz-buster?", you should check out the BOC FAQ at the following URL: ftp://ftp.spc.edu/boc-l/boc_faq-2_1.txt Also included is an address to contact the Brain Surgeons and order their CDs - *Eponymous*, *Trepanation*, and (to be mailed out by Christmas) *Box of Hammers* 4. Based on my recent conversations with Bolle Gregmar, BOC fanclub president, I can confirm that the band has been recording songs for a new album, scheduled for a 1997 release. The band had been doing between about 10 and 15 shows a month for some time up until this fall, and then they pretty much stopped to work on the album. I think only one more show for this year is planned. Toward the end of their recent touring, the setlist became more dominated with tunes song by Buck, to the point where at the last 2 shows, Eric sang only 2 or 3 songs I believe. As far as I know, Eric strained his voice earlier in the year but didn't give it time to rest due to touring, so it became a bit worse. So, they decided to decrease his vocals as fall approached so that it could be in better form for recording the new album. There are at least 7 songs that are more or less ready for recording, or have already been recorded. The titles of these songs are: Still Burnin', Harvest Moon, I'd Like to See You in Black, In the Cold Grey Light of Dawn, The Power Underneath Despair, X-Ray Eyes, and Live For Me. There are a few other tunes also in the works, but I don't have any info on them. All the tunes I just mentioned have been played live a few times. 5. As far as obtaining BOC CDs, there are many ways to obtain them if your local stores don't have them. I'd recommend the following ideas: a. Check GOLDMINE, a record/CD collector's magazine -- I've seen a few dealers in there advertising both *Club Ninja* and *Flat Out*, which are pretty much unavailable from the major U.S. record stores. *Imaginos* may also be getting hard to find as well. *Mirrors* should still be available in many major U.S. record stores. b. Ask if anyone on this list would be willing to pick you up a copy of one of the albums you seek -- some of us might be willing to do so for $$, or for some sort of trade. c. If you have web access, there are a number of on-line CD dealers which stock BOC discs. I've dealt with a few of them with no problems. Check out the following URLs and do a search for Blue Oyster Cult: http://www.cdconnection.com http://www.cdeurope.com http://www.gemm.com http://www.cdbanzai.com http://www.cdnow.com http://db.otn.com/vinylvendors/VinylSearch.html I've personally dealt with "cdconnection", "cdeurope" (slow, but sometimes useful for finding European releases not readily available in the U.S. - and I'm not talking about "bootlegs" either), and "vinyl vendors" (good for finding used stuff). "Good Health to You", John Swartz From frankw at COMM.MOT.COM Mon Oct 28 10:27:54 1996 From: frankw at COMM.MOT.COM (Frank Weil) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:27:54 -0600 Subject: HW: Space Bandits (was Breast-Jiggling) In-Reply-To: Andrew Gilham "Re: HW: Breast-Jiggling" (Oct 26, 11:11pm) Message-ID: Andrew Gilham wrote: > > The first concerns the Wishart HW stuff. Which albums is she on? I'm > >surprised that I haven't heard her at all. What are people's views on > >her work with them? > > Space Bandits (poor) and Palace Springs (really rather good). But then again > she's only on a couple of tracks on each. Am I the only one on this list who actually thinks that "Space Bandits" is good? I'll admit that the end of the album isn't as strong as the beginning, but "Images", "Black Elk Speaks", "Wings", and "Out Of The Shadows" are great. I would give it at least a (good) rating. Frank ObCD: Hawkwind - Gimme Shelter with Samantha Fox -- ============================================================================== Frank Weil | frankw at comm.mot.com | phone: (847) 576-3110 | fax: (847) 576-3240 I don't practice what I preach, because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to. -- Bob Dobbs. From christian.mumford at LOGIN.EUNET.NO Mon Oct 28 11:05:55 1996 From: christian.mumford at LOGIN.EUNET.NO (Christian Mumford) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:05:55 +0100 Subject: HW: Space Bandits (was Breast-Jiggling) Message-ID: >Frank Weil wittingly wrote: >Gimme Shelter with Samantha Fox > Just don't suffocate! Christian -------------------------------------------------------------- "I am not as much a vegetable as everything is vegetable soup" Christian Mumford From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 28 11:40:08 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:40:08 GMT Subject: HW: Space Bandits In-Reply-To: Frank Weil's message of Mon, 28 Oct 1996 09:27:54 -0600 Message-ID: Frank Weil writes: > Am I the only one on this list who actually thinks that "Space > Bandits" is good? I'll admit that the end of the album isn't as > strong as the beginning, but "Images", "Black Elk Speaks", "Wings", > and "Out Of The Shadows" are great. I would give it at least a (good) > rating. no you're not actually - tho' I don't know how reassuring my agreement is! Space Bandits was the album that convinced me Hawkwind were not about to disappear down that drain that swallows all too many long term and increasingly disillusioned bands. IMO in Space Bandits they rediscovered both long riffs and atmosphere, the very basis of the stuff that made the Hawkwind Space Rock sound I remembered from my youff. With Simon House's violin and Bridget's vocals, plenty of drums and loads of atmospheric sounds I was delighted with Space Bandits - it may not be the finest album musically and is a long way from the blanga rock beat that some folk like but for me it was the return of the Hawkwind space riff and I retain a definite fondness for this album. jill ObPrettyGoodGig> Peter Green's 'Splinter Group' - playing in Edinburgh on Saturday. Excellent evening! ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From StevenTice at AOL.COM Mon Oct 28 11:59:41 1996 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 11:59:41 -0500 Subject: BOC : and yet more trouble finding 'Imaginos' Message-ID: Hey, as far as I know, there's still a copy of Imaginos sitting at my local Encore bookstore (they just expanded into CDs) for $10.95. Whether they can order more, I don't know... SET From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Mon Oct 28 13:49:42 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 18:49:42 GMT Subject: HW: (-ish!) Life on Mars exposed Message-ID: There was an apology printed in the Guardian on Saturday. I quote it entire, since this is obviously a matter of deep importance to all lifeforms on Planet Earth 8-) "PLANET MARS - AN APOLOGY On Auguest 18 we printed an editorial based on the understanding that scientists at NASA had found traces of life on Mars, albeit billions of years old, from a meteorite catapulted from the planet 15 millions years ago. This was said in good faith within the obvious limitations of the checking mechanisms of a newspaper on 176 years old. We are now informed - by geochemists at the University of Colorado in Boulder - that the carbonate mineral globules in which the suspected microfossils had been found were formed not within the 0 to 80 Celsius range suggested by NASA but between 40 and 250 Celsius - up to 100 Celsius above the upper limit for life. We unreservedly apologise for the consternation this must have caused among the constellations not to speak of all those who may have started to trace back their family trees in the now misbegotten hope that they may have had extra-terrestial ancestors. Anthropomorphism of this kind is fortunately not yet a crime (though, doubtless, lawyers are working on it) but that is no reason to libel those unable to defend themselves. We wish Mars a long and well-deserved return to the undiscovered bliss of inanimation and promise not to write about it again. At least, not until NASA scientists want to squeeze more funds out of Congress again. Or until the little green men land in Hyde Park." Ah well - pity! jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From skarsol at EROLS.COM Mon Oct 28 11:01:57 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:01:57 +0000 Subject: HW: Space Bandits (was Breast-Jiggling) Message-ID: Frank Weil wrote: > > Andrew Gilham wrote: > > > The first concerns the Wishart HW stuff. Which albums is she on? I'm > > >surprised that I haven't heard her at all. What are people's views on > > >her work with them? > > > > Space Bandits (poor) and Palace Springs (really rather good). But then again > > she's only on a couple of tracks on each. > > Am I the only one on this list who actually thinks that "Space > Bandits" is good? I'll admit that the end of the album isn't as > strong as the beginning, but "Images", "Black Elk Speaks", "Wings", > and "Out Of The Shadows" are great. I would give it at least a (good) > rating. > no,you are not. i love space bandits,and listen often. rj From Christopher.Stier at LEXIS-NEXIS.COM Mon Oct 28 15:28:02 1996 From: Christopher.Stier at LEXIS-NEXIS.COM (Stier, Christopher) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 15:28:02 -0500 Subject: HW: Space Bandits (was Breast-Jiggling) Message-ID: Yep, I'm a fan of Space Bandits as well. I did notice, however that the jam parts of Images and Out Of The Shadows sound quite a bit alike. Chris Stier San Francisco x4445 If we could just get everyone to close their eyes and visualize world peace for an hour, imagine how serene and quiet it would be until the looting started. >---------- >From: SKARSOL[SMTP:skarsol at EROLS.COM] >Sent: Monday, October 28, 1996 8:01 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Subject: Re: HW: Space Bandits (was Breast-Jiggling) > >Frank Weil wrote: >> >> Andrew Gilham wrote: >> > > The first concerns the Wishart HW stuff. Which albums is she on? >>I'm >> > >surprised that I haven't heard her at all. What are people's views on >> > >her work with them? >> > >> > Space Bandits (poor) and Palace Springs (really rather good). But then >>again >> > she's only on a couple of tracks on each. >> >> Am I the only one on this list who actually thinks that "Space >> Bandits" is good? I'll admit that the end of the album isn't as >> strong as the beginning, but "Images", "Black Elk Speaks", "Wings", >> and "Out Of The Shadows" are great. I would give it at least a (good) >> rating. >> > >no,you are not. i love space bandits,and listen often. rj > From stayer at PI.NET Mon Oct 28 21:07:25 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 18:07:25 PST Subject: BOC : and yet more trouble finding 'Imaginos' Message-ID: I think I better go and collect all Imaginos CDs I can find here in Holland and export them back to the USA! :-) Jerry From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Mon Oct 28 16:16:26 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:16:26 EST Subject: BOC : and yet more trouble finding 'Imaginos' Message-ID: > I think I better go and collect all Imaginos CDs I can find here in Holland > and export them back to the USA! :-) > > Jerry Maybe you can find some yank to trade ya a couple cases of Heineken! theo From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Mon Oct 28 16:27:34 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:27:34 -0500 Subject: BOC : and yet more trouble finding 'Imaginos' Message-ID: >I think I better go and collect all Imaginos CDs I can find here in Holland and export them back to the USA! :-) All kidding aside, you might do well to grab a few copies, and use them to trade with folks having difficulty finding them. John From khiller at NICKEL.UCS.INDIANA.EDU Mon Oct 28 16:37:59 1996 From: khiller at NICKEL.UCS.INDIANA.EDU (Karl Hiller) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:37:59 -0500 Subject: HW: cover songs In-Reply-To: <326721B4.275E@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: On Fri, 18 Oct 1996, William Duffy wrote: > I was just wondering whether "The Iron Dream" may be a cover? > I remember watching A children's puppet show from Japan called "Star > Fleet." There was a scene in one episode featuring a battle with "The > Iron Dream" being performed by someone else in the background. > > The series was made after "Quark..." came out, however, I was thinking > that it could be a reworking of an old classical piece (ala ELP, > Rainbow, etc..) >From my admittedly limited experience watching Japanese animation (I had a friend years ago who was really into it), Japanese producers are not at all shy about "lifting" music from American/European sources, with or without permission. Maybe the puppet show just borrowed the tune. Karl From jmlofft at BUFFNET.NET Mon Oct 28 11:46:52 1996 From: jmlofft at BUFFNET.NET (Joseph M. Lofft) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:46:52 GMT Subject: BOC : and yet more trouble finding 'Imaginos' Message-ID: I thought everyone hated this album except for me. Why the sudden rush to get a hold of it? From jmlofft at BUFFNET.NET Mon Oct 28 11:47:44 1996 From: jmlofft at BUFFNET.NET (Joseph M. Lofft) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:47:44 GMT Subject: Brain Surgeons Message-ID: I have yet to hear anything by the Brain Surgeons. What BOC material could you compare them too??? From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Mon Oct 28 16:50:09 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:50:09 +0100 Subject: BOC : and yet more trouble finding 'Imaginos' Message-ID: At 04:46 PM 10/28/96 GMT, you wrote: >I thought everyone hated this album except for me. Why the sudden rush to >get a hold of it? > > No, almost everyone on the list thinks it's a brilliant album... but we are not sure if it's a BOC album or...ehrm... something else!!! :-) -Daniel (cgi-bin script go:r mig galen!)Wikdahl . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From fswof at AURORA.ALASKA.EDU Mon Oct 28 16:58:02 1996 From: fswof at AURORA.ALASKA.EDU (William Fuller) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 12:58:02 -0900 Subject: HW: (-ish!) Life on Mars exposed In-Reply-To: <9610281849.aa13063@uk.ac.ed.tattoo> Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, J Strobridge wrote: > There was an apology printed in the Guardian on Saturday. I quote it > entire, since this is obviously a matter of deep importance to all > lifeforms on Planet Earth 8-) Yes, and it turns out that all those UFO reports... all weather balloons. And Kennedy? He was shot by one lone gunman... there was no conspiracy. And the U.S. government says there is NO SUCH THING as Gulf War Syndrome. Oh, wait, they just changed their minds... it really does exist and might affect 100,000 people. Oops. Well, that was the ONLY thing they were lying about. -- William Fuller fswof at aurora.alaska.edu From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Mon Oct 28 17:38:02 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Damon C Capehart) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:38:02 -0600 Subject: HW: Space Bandits (was Breast-Jiggling) In-Reply-To: <9610280927.ZM1072@unknown.zmail.host> Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Frank Weil wrote: > Am I the only one on this list who actually thinks that "Space Bandits" > is good? Nope. Count me in with the others who chimed in. However, I must admit that I am one of the very few who rilly like side 2. I think Ship O' Dreams and TV Suicide are great, along with the rest of the album, of course. Come to think of it, the only track I *don't* like is Black Elk Speaks. Damon "You get so much mucho, for not very much-o" Capehart P.S.: If Bainbridge is truly British, shouldn't the title be "Telly Suicide"? :) From craigs at PYRAMID.COM Mon Oct 28 17:30:02 1996 From: craigs at PYRAMID.COM (Craig A. Shipley) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:30:02 -0500 Subject: HW: cover songs Message-ID: The Iron Dream took its name from a piece of sci-fi written by Norman Spinrad. The book was a bit of "alternative-reality" where Adolf Hitler was a sci-fi writer and expressed his views thru the pen and not with the Panzer. (Another "famous" author who appears on rock recordings, Spinrad "sang" the lyrics to "Houston 69" on Richard Pinhas' "EAST-WEST" release, and a number of titles of various Heldon/Pinhas tunes reflect Spinrads' writing). The prime vehicle of choice in TID was the motorcycle (kinda ties into BOC, well, sorta...kinda reminds me of "The Golden Age Of Leather" with more Nordic/mystical/Nazi overtones...) and the baddies were these mutants of Zind (the racial purity thing...) which were attacking the fatherland of Heldon (gee, maybe this belongs more on the Pinhas/Heldon mailing list, if there was such a thing...). An even more tenuous HW link; on the cover of my copy of TID, there is a quote from Michael Moorcock! The book was published in 1972, FWIW... objCDPlayer: Mastermind IV / Until Eternity. This CD is a blast of powerful guitar and synths. Some definite BOC-ish licks on this one. I think that this CD is going to be my "best prog-rock of 1996" choice. Don't miss out on these guys... Craig Shipley craigs at pyramid.com ---------- From: Karl Hiller[SMTP:khiller at NICKEL.UCS.INDIANA.EDU] Sent: Monday, October 28, 1996 4:37 PM To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L Subject: Re: HW: cover songs On Fri, 18 Oct 1996, William Duffy wrote: > I was just wondering whether "The Iron Dream" may be a cover? > I remember watching A children's puppet show from Japan called "Star > Fleet." There was a scene in one episode featuring a battle with "The > Iron Dream" being performed by someone else in the background. > > The series was made after "Quark..." came out, however, I was thinking > that it could be a reworking of an old classical piece (ala ELP, > Rainbow, etc..) >>From my admittedly limited experience watching Japanese animation (I had a friend years ago who was really into it), Japanese producers are not at all shy about "lifting" music from American/European sources, with or without permission. Maybe the puppet show just borrowed the tune. 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Cheers, Carl ************************************************************************ Carl Edlund Anderson * "Lever vi inte i ett cea20 at cus.cam.ac.uk * fritt land kanske?" http://wjh-www.harvard.edu/~canders/hem.html * Dept. of Anglo-Saxon, Norse & Celtic, Cambridge * -- Pippi Langstrump ************************************************************************ From Chevelle at IO-ONLINE.COM Mon Oct 28 21:06:13 1996 From: Chevelle at IO-ONLINE.COM (Chevelle) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 18:06:13 -0800 Subject: Imaginos Message-ID: I've seen "Imaginos" numerous times in the used CD bins at various music stores. I guess I should buy them up for resale! John Gray From Chevelle at IO-ONLINE.COM Mon Oct 28 21:28:15 1996 From: Chevelle at IO-ONLINE.COM (Chevelle) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 18:28:15 -0800 Subject: ICU Message-ID: Has anyone heard of the CD "Now You Know The Score" by ICU? Thanks, John From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Mon Oct 28 21:52:34 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:52:34 +1100 Subject: HW: Space Bandits (was Breast-Jiggling) In-Reply-To: <9610280927.ZM1072@unknown.zmail.host> Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Frank Weil wrote: > Andrew Gilham wrote: > > > The first concerns the Wishart HW stuff. Which albums is she on? I'm > > >surprised that I haven't heard her at all. What are people's views on > > >her work with them? > > > > Space Bandits (poor) and Palace Springs (really rather good). But then again > > she's only on a couple of tracks on each. > > Am I the only one on this list who actually thinks that "Space > Bandits" is good? I'll admit that the end of the album isn't as > strong as the beginning, but "Images", "Black Elk Speaks", "Wings", > and "Out Of The Shadows" are great. I would give it at least a (good) > rating. I love Space bandits. And PS is the best thing IMHO that has been done recently. I would like to know; a) Where Brigett W. came from and b) where she went. Troy From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Mon Oct 28 22:03:07 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:03:07 +1100 Subject: BOC : and yet more trouble finding 'Imaginos' In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19961028164258.0b57f44a@buffnet.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Joseph M. Lofft wrote: > I thought everyone hated this album except for me. Why the sudden rush to > get a hold of it? > Those who hate Imaginos are surely not sane. Imaginos is the kind of rock that reminds me about when giants (BOC, UFO, SCORPIONS, JUDAS PRIEST, SABS, THIN LIZZY) once roamed proud across the face of the Earth, and the disco types cowered in fear. A true message of prophesy for the young folk of today- "beware, classic heavy rock will return!" Suffering cogitive dissonance, Troy From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Mon Oct 28 22:05:57 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:05:57 +1100 Subject: Brain Surgeons In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19961028164349.0b57ddc0@buffnet.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Joseph M. Lofft wrote: > I have yet to hear anything by the Brain Surgeons. What BOC material could you > compare them too??? > I have only got a hold of the first ditty, Eponomous, and to compare with BOC, there ain't too much common ground, but is an OK album all the same. I can hardly wait to get the next two, as I hear they are somewhat better. (Eponomous was stuck in my CD player for a whole month, BTW). Troy From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Oct 29 00:52:06 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:52:06 +0800 Subject: Artists needed! Message-ID: Christian Mumford wrote: > > >Christian Mumford wrote: > >... Stories that are already 'taken' are Jack > >> of Shadows and Spirit of The Age, and possibly Master of The Universe and > >> Urban Guerilla. I think 'High Rise' is another good canditate, but > >> non-Calvert material is needed too. > > > >Some of the Hawkwind songs, such as "High Rise", "Jack of Shadows", > >etc., are based on novels by other well known authors as well. Not only > >Mr. Moorcock, but others as well could be after your hide re. copyright. > > > >William > > > > > > But the authors haven't been after the Hawks' hides (feathers???) have > they?? I picked up on the Zelazny reference in Damnation Alley, but he isn't > credited even if the title and scenario are straight out of the novel... > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > "I am not as much a vegetable as everything is vegetable soup" > > Christian Mumford They have said in interviews that these are where they come from. They may have got permission. They don't have to credit it. Anyway, it could be interesting to read a story based on a song based on a story! William From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Oct 29 00:58:53 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:58:53 +0800 Subject: HW: Space Bandits (was Breast-Jiggling) Message-ID: Frank Weil wrote: > > Andrew Gilham wrote: > > > The first concerns the Wishart HW stuff. Which albums is she on? I'm > > >surprised that I haven't heard her at all. What are people's views on > > >her work with them? > > > > Space Bandits (poor) and Palace Springs (really rather good). But then again > > she's only on a couple of tracks on each. > > Am I the only one on this list who actually thinks that "Space > Bandits" is good? I'll admit that the end of the album isn't as > strong as the beginning, but "Images", "Black Elk Speaks", "Wings", > and "Out Of The Shadows" are great. I would give it at least a (good) > rating. > > Frank I like it, as well. From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Tue Oct 29 01:54:10 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 01:54:10 -0500 Subject: HW: Space Bandits (was Breast-Jiggling) Message-ID: On 28-OCT-1996 21:56:24.4 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >29 Oct 1996 13:52:34 +1100 >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:52:34 +1100 >From: Troy Harris >Subject: Re: HW: Space Bandits (was Breast-Jiggling) >In-reply-to: <9610280927.ZM1072 at unknown.zmail.host> >Sender: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Reply-to: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List >Message-id: >MIME-version: 1.0 >Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT >On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Frank Weil wrote: >> Andrew Gilham wrote: >> > > The first concerns the Wishart HW stuff. Which albums is >she on? I'm >> > >surprised that I haven't heard her at all. What are people's >views on > > >her work with them? >> > >> > Space Bandits (poor) and Palace Springs (really rather good). But >then a gain >> > she's only on a couple of tracks on each. >> >> Am I the only one on this list who actually thinks that "Space >> Bandits" is good? I'll admit that the end of the album isn't as >> strong as the beginning, but "Images", "Black Elk Speaks", "Wings", >> and "Out Of The Shadows" are great. I would give it at least a (good) >> rating. >I love Space bandits. And PS is the best thing IMHO that has been done >recently. I would like to know; >a) Where Brigett W. came from She sang with a band called Hippy Slags before HW. They have a tune ("Cat Mother") on Traveller's Aid Trust. Chuck `[1;33;40mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Tue Oct 29 03:40:25 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:40:25 UT Subject: ICU Message-ID: _Now You Know the Score_ is apparently a solo album by Trev which he recorded in Italy at Dino's place. I've yet to even see a copy - does it actually exist? - Andy From mordru at MAGG.NET Tue Oct 29 08:03:29 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:03:29 -0500 Subject: BOC : and yet more trouble finding 'Imaginos' Message-ID: >I thought everyone hated this album except for me. Why the sudden rush to >get a hold of it? As far as I can tell, more people on here like it than hate it. As far as all those people wanting to pick up copies to sell on here, I can't find one in my area except on casette, so I'd be interested in sending money to someone to get a cd version. I don't use credit cards so I can't use any of them web vendors... +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm From fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Tue Oct 29 08:04:44 1996 From: fofp at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (M Holmes) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:04:44 GMT Subject: OFF: Nektar q&a,was superfairytales In-Reply-To: Jerry's message of Thu, 24 Oct 1996 18:08:12 PDT Message-ID: Jerry writes: > [ Recycled or RTF ] > > Jerry recommended Journey To The Centre Of The Eye. > > RJ replied: > >i have recycled,and i like it.but for some reason it just doesnt stand > >out. in memory,i always confuse the tracks on this album with those from > >"a tab in the ocean",another great album. Those two are definitely my fave Nektar albums. FoFP From mordru at MAGG.NET Tue Oct 29 08:11:46 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 08:11:46 -0500 Subject: Brain Surgeons Message-ID: >I have yet to hear anything by the Brain Surgeons. What BOC material could you >compare them too??? Well, that's probably the wrong light to start viewing them, though I suppose some comparisons are inevitable. To me, the sound isn't the same, though it is definitely closer to the heavy stuff than the ethereal stuff. The BOC tunes that to me feel the closest to tBS are, in no particular order: Cagey Cretins, Tattoo Vampire, and maybe You're Not The One. But on many levels, especially the vocals, it's something else altogether different. But you have to listen for yourself on this... +-------------------------------------------------------+ Andrew A. Apold, aka "I was corrupt before I had power!" Roger Shrubstaff - Random Baron Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Oct 29 10:53:58 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:53:58 -0500 Subject: Brain Surgeons Message-ID: > I have yet to hear anything by the Brain Surgeons. What BOC material could yo u > compare them too??? Andrew's points about trying to compare tBS to BOC may be a bit difficult, and not entirely fair. Of course, if you like alot of the BOC music that Albert wrote (and that was quite alot up to 1981), then tBS will probably appeal to you as well - often heavy, sometimes humourous, and fairly diverse. In fact, the diversity of tBS probably is a bit detrimental from a marketing perspective because it's hard to really "label" them - especially true on *Eponymous* which has a wide range of musical styles (the other "problem" that some have with it is that due to the fact that it's mostly Albert and Deb doing most of the work, and having a more limited budget at the time to do things, it doesn't have the feel of being a "band" album - contrast that with *Trepanation*, which was recorded by a band that has played together numerous times, along with some better equipment and a heavier mix). Also, there are some songs on tBS albums that were written years ago, so some of them certainly have a BOC-ish feel to them, at least instrumentally (with Deb's vocals, most of these songs take on a totally new dimension, although Albert does do around 30-40% of the lead vocals. Especially with *Trepanation*, it will be obvious that tBS are a guitar-oriented band, and that the music (especially live) is on the heavy side - some have called it "classic rock with a modern twist", which I like as a description. It really seems to have a nice blend of the sounds of the 70's, 80's, and 90's all rolled into one. Also, some of the BOC tunes that tBS have covered in their live shows might give some indication of their sound (well, maybe): Career of Evil, Baby Ice Dog, Cities on Flame, Dominance and Submission, The Red and the Black Before *Box of Hammers*, I would usually recommend potential tBS listeners first check out *Trepanation*, which is heavier, a bit more cohesive, and more representative of tBS live sound. From what I've heard so far from both the band and folks who've heard the new songs, *Box of Hammers* will be an even further step forward from the previous efforts -- so, it may make sense to start with that one, especially since it will be available by Christmas if you get your order in by November 1st. Of course, these comments are coming from someone who has seen and met the band on a few ocassions, has fairly regular e-mail correspondence with the band's founders, and has used the Internet where possible to try and promote the band -- so some would probably say I'm not exactly objective. On the other hand, the proof is in the pudding - The Brain Surgeons, as an artist, probably gets more time in my CD player than any of the artists that I listen to. So, I like to think that my main reason for supporting them is because the music is good. John From flossbac at WCIC.ORG Tue Oct 29 10:58:37 1996 From: flossbac at WCIC.ORG (John Majka) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 10:58:37 -0500 Subject: More Space Bandits Talk Message-ID: You know, with the recent slagging of Space Bandits, I just have to say that I really liked the album. With every new HW album, I harbor at least the tiniest fear that the album will let me down, but surprisingly, this is something Hawkwind manages to avoid every time. When Space Bandits came out, I was completely satisfied by it. I'm sure lots of people will disagree with me, but I think the weakest track is probably "Out of the Shadows," which seems too much in a standard rock vein for the likes of HW. I'm not trying to start any arguments (Hawkwind is certainly one of my favorite bands, after all), but while on the topic of good tracks vs. bad ones, let me summarize my opinions: Worst overall studio album: Sonic Attack (a lot of this album just sounds like low-grade heavy metal. I still like it, mind you. It just doesn't meet HW's usual standards) Worst song: Sadness Runs Deep (from Electric Tepee. Yuck. Embarrassingly bad lyrics, uninspired music, and it doesn't even fit into the "genre" of a Hawkwind song. All is forgiven though. One genuinely bad song in 26 years is a much better track record than any musicians I can think of) Best overall album: Hall of the Mountain Grill Palace Springs (I never can make up my mind--I think both are ingenious) Best overall song: there are too many great ones, the most recent being Alien I Am There you go. Talk amongst yourselves. John Majka flossbac at wcic.org "I languish alone in my lair where you will never hear me laughing; I'm half in love with dark and despair" From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Oct 29 11:19:37 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 00:19:37 +0800 Subject: More Space Bandits Talk Message-ID: John Majka wrote: > > You know, with the recent slagging of Space Bandits, I just have to say that > I really liked the album. With every new HW album, I harbor at least the > tiniest fear that the album will let me down, but surprisingly, this is > something Hawkwind manages to avoid every time. When Space Bandits came > out, I was completely satisfied by it. I'm sure lots of people will > disagree with me, but I think the weakest track is probably "Out of the > Shadows," which seems too much in a standard rock vein for the likes of HW. > I'm not trying to start any arguments (Hawkwind is certainly one of my > favorite bands, after all), but while on the topic of good tracks vs. bad > ones, let me summarize my opinions: > > Worst overall studio album: Sonic Attack (a lot of this album just > sounds like > low-grade heavy metal. I still like it, mind > you. It just doesn't meet HW's usual > standards) > Worst song: Sadness Runs Deep (from Electric Tepee. Yuck. Embarrassingly > bad lyrics, uninspired music, and it doesn't even fit into the > "genre" of a Hawkwind song. All is forgiven though. One > genuinely bad song in 26 years is a much better track record > than any musicians I can think of) > Best overall album: Hall of the Mountain Grill > Palace Springs (I never can make up my mind--I think > both are ingenious) > Best overall song: there are too many great ones, the most recent being > Alien I Am I think I agree with most of what you say. I also think "Out of the Shadows" to be the disappointment here (Though "Images" is just a bit too long). I think my least favourite album would be "Chronicles of the Black Sword" for the same reasons you give. Though "It is the Business of the Future to be Dangerous" also falls into this category for the completely opposite reason. For me the best overall album would be "Warrior on the Edge of Time". All in all though, I would say that since Hawkwind bring out many recordings on a regular basis, unlike many others, they manage to keep their reputation as a great band afloat, by releasing a new album so soon after a slightly disappointing one. William From cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Tue Oct 29 11:30:24 1996 From: cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:30:24 EST Subject: HW: cover songs Message-ID: >>From my admittedly limited experience watching Japanese animation (I had >a friend years ago who was really into it), Japanese producers are not at >all shy about "lifting" music from American/European sources, with or >without permission. Maybe the puppet show just borrowed the tune. > >Karl I recently finished reading an excellent book entitled "Bootleg: The Secret History of the Other Recording Industry". This invaluable reference (to "cookie" collectors such as myself) goes into great detail about the various copyright laws affecting musical recordings around the world. Apparently Japan has long been one of the lax-ist(sp?) countries in the world for copyright protection. Essentially, up until recently, non-Japanese musical artists had *NO* copyright protection of any kind within the borders of Japan. This led to numerous rip-off releases without fear of punishment. However, the high cost of manufacturing LPs and CDs in Japan and difficulties exporting them prevented Nippon from reaching the ranks of Italy, Germany, or Luxemburg in terms of units produced and distributed. This great book also relates many anecdotes told by folks identified only by their aliases, as well as stories documented in assorted court records following legal suits by record companies. Highly recommended as the best work on the market on this particular subject. (Possibly the only work...?) Captain Cloud cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com ObLostJamming: Alan Davey 'Captured Rotation' - this is the sound that has been missing from HW for the last few years! Baron Brock needs to let Alan play a more central role in the songwriting. Dig it on "Ancient Light". From cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Tue Oct 29 11:42:24 1996 From: cjohnson at HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 11:42:24 EST Subject: HW: early poster book Message-ID: A close friend of mine just donated to me a book she picked up years ago. It is a poster book put out by Mick Farren in the UK about 1978. Inside it are approx. 50 11"x17" reproductions of early psych posters, typically advertising concerts or albums. I skimmed thru it at once, and lo-and-behold there are *3* HW-related posters in there! There is the "Roadhawks" car image, the Deep Fix NWF cover, and a HW/Man "1999 Party" poster. The credits say that all were donated by Doug Stiff to Mick. I even spotted the grey BOC cover with the Messiersmitt(sp) in there. Too cool! She blew my mind when she just pulled this out of the back of a closet, where it has sat for more than a decade. She saw the HW reference and remembered my obsession with this group (all my friends know I like that "Hawk-something from England" group that I am always trying to play for them). ...just felt like sharing a happy moment with ya'll... ;-) Captain Cloud cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com ObCheapIntroduction: Griffin's new Eloy collection - an excellent introduction to some term-defining Krautrock. From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Tue Oct 29 12:00:37 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 01:00:37 +0800 Subject: HW: cover songs Message-ID: cjohnson wrote: > > >From my admittedly limited experience watching Japanese animation (I had > >a friend years ago who was really into it), Japanese producers are not at > >all shy about "lifting" music from American/European sources, with or > >without permission. Maybe the puppet show just borrowed the tune. > > > >Karl > > I recently finished reading an excellent book entitled "Bootleg: > The Secret History of the Other Recording Industry". This > invaluable reference (to "cookie" collectors such as myself) goes > into great detail about the various copyright laws affecting > musical recordings around the world. Apparently Japan has long > been one of the lax-ist(sp?) countries in the world for copyright > protection. Essentially, up until recently, non-Japanese musical > artists had *NO* copyright protection of any kind within the > borders of Japan. > > This led to numerous rip-off releases without fear of punishment. > However, the high cost of manufacturing LPs and CDs in Japan and > difficulties exporting them prevented Nippon from reaching the > ranks of Italy, Germany, or Luxemburg in terms of units produced > and distributed. > > This great book also relates many anecdotes told by folks > identified only by their aliases, as well as stories documented in > assorted court records following legal suits by record companies. > Highly recommended as the best work on the market on this > particular subject. (Possibly the only work...?) > > Captain Cloud > cjohnson at hpsc.hisd.harris.com Would this be a first then, of another artist doing a cover version of a HW tune, for a TV series? > ObLostJamming: Alan Davey 'Captured Rotation' - this is the sound > that has been missing from HW for the last few years! Baron Brock > needs to let Alan play a more central role in the songwriting. > Dig it on "Ancient Light". What makes Alan's album so good is also that he hasn't rehashed old tunes (as far as I can tell), unlike the recent HW and Dave Brock releases. From scruto19 at POTSDAM.EDU Tue Oct 29 13:39:42 1996 From: scruto19 at POTSDAM.EDU (Jason Scruton) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:39:42 -0500 Subject: BOC: Taming Flelepaths Message-ID: a quick question: is the "music box" intro to Flaming Telepaths (or is it the outro to Harvester of Eyes?) ever played live by the group? and is it really a music box that we hear? Enquiring minds want to know, (or at least make a good guess) Jason From skarsol at EROLS.COM Tue Oct 29 08:32:09 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:32:09 +0000 Subject: Artists needed! Message-ID: William Duffy wrote: > > But the authors haven't been after the Hawks' hides (feathers???) have > > they?? I picked up on the Zelazny reference in Damnation Alley, but he isn't > > credited even if the title and scenario are straight out of the novel... > They have said in interviews that these are where they come from. They > may have got permission. They don't have to credit it. Anyway, it could > be interesting to read a story based on a song based on a story! > > William here is an example to consider: iron maiden did a song based on frank herbert's 'dune'. they wanted to call it 'dune', so contacted herbert for permission. frank refused permission,either wanting money,or wanting not to be associated with >that< kind of music,i forget which. so they called the song- 'to tame a land'.they changed nothing in the content,only the title.nothing ill happened,they were never sued, so i imagine it comes down to an interpretation,which is probably allowed. idunno rj From stayer at PI.NET Tue Oct 29 10:33:02 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 07:33:02 PST Subject: BOC : and yet more trouble finding 'Imaginos' Message-ID: Joseph said: >I thought everyone hated this album except for me. Why the sudden rush to >get a hold of it? 'Scuse me? My favourite BOC album... The only thing discussed on BOC-L is whether is it a BOC album or not. It /is/ a great album. I don't care if it's BOC or not - a wonderful album! And even for the ones who don't think it to be such a great album - what about a complete collection. Jerry From jmlofft at BUFFNET.NET Tue Oct 29 08:43:31 1996 From: jmlofft at BUFFNET.NET (Joseph M. Lofft) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:43:31 GMT Subject: BOC: Re: Taming Flelepaths Message-ID: At 01:39 PM 10/29/96 -0500, you wrote: >a quick question: is the "music box" intro to Flaming Telepaths (or is it >the outro to Harvester of Eyes?) ever played live by the group? and is it >really a music box that we hear? Flaming Telepaths was played on the last tour in Niagara Falls, NY. After that I saw them in Allentown, PA and Buffalo, NY and it had been dropped from the set. From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Tue Oct 29 12:02:32 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:02:32 +0000 Subject: More Space Bandits Talk In-Reply-To: <199610291558.KAA26590@wcic.org> Message-ID: In message <199610291558.KAA26590 at wcic.org>, John Majka writes >You know, with the recent slagging of Space Bandits, I just have to say that >I really liked the album. Only a minor quibble but didn't evryone except Andy say they liked it? I like it a lot too, it's a real grower, esp. "Wings". > > Worst overall studio album: Sonic Attack (a lot of this album just >sounds like > low-grade heavy metal. I still like it, mind > you. It just doesn't meet HW's usual >standards) Erm, Sonic Attack is a great album even by Hawkwind's high standards and includes Rocky Paths and Living on a Knife-Edge. I don't think these tracks can be described as low grade HM. You're thinking of Def Leppard, surely ? :) Wow, if KnifeEdge is lowgrade HM, please, tell what *high* grade HM I'm missing out on because RRRRock music don't get much better!! > Worst song: Sadness Runs Deep (from Electric Tepee. Yuck. Embarrassingly > bad lyrics, uninspired music, and it doesn't even fit into the > "genre" of a Hawkwind song. All is forgiven though. One > genuinely bad song in 26 years is a much better track record > than any musicians I can think of) "Sadness Runs Deep" is one of my all time favorites. It's great. No debate. HW have done "one genuinely bad song". It's called Camera That Could Lie and it's on ITBOTFTBD. It pongs so bad I can smell it from here. > Best overall album: Hall of the Mountain Grill Possibly. > Palace Springs (I never can make up my mind--I think > both are ingenious) I do like PS, but the best HW album ever? Surely, that's Space Ritual or Doremi or Xenon Codex or Electric Tepee or even SONIC ATTACK :))) Could you point out how PS scores over Space Ritual? > Best overall song: there are too many great ones, the most recent being > Alien I Am > >There you go. Talk amongst yourselves. >John Majka >flossbac at wcic.org >"I languish alone in my lair where you will never hear me laughing; I'm half >in love with dark and despair" -- Jon Browne From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Oct 29 14:11:24 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:11:24 -0500 Subject: BOC: Taming Flelepaths Message-ID: The "music box" intro (and that is what it is) is not played live - at least it isn't on any live performance of it that I've heard. John From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Tue Oct 29 14:16:28 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Damon C Capehart) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:16:28 -0600 Subject: OFF: copyright permissions (was: Artists needed!) In-Reply-To: <32760759.5305@erols.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, SKARSOL wrote: > here is an example to consider: > iron maiden did a song based on frank herbert's 'dune'. > they wanted to call it 'dune', so contacted herbert for permission. > frank refused permission,either wanting money,or wanting not to be > associated with >that< kind of music,i forget which. > so they called the song- 'to tame a land'.they changed nothing in the > content,only the title.nothing ill happened,they were never sued, > so i imagine it comes down to an interpretation,which is probably > allowed. idunno rj A nearly identical scenario occured with David Bowie. In 1974 (I think), he came up with a few songs setting Orwell's 1984 to music. In the midst of his composing period, he (or the label) contacted Orwell's estate, and Orwell's widow refused to let Bowie release any album with the above description. (Probably something about not wanting to release anything about 1984 until 1984, though Mrs. Orwell may have simply not liked Bowie's music, or she was afraid of bisexual glam rockers, or something.) So Bowie simply completed the songs that he already had mostly written, then wrote the rest of the album, which was relatively unrelated to the book, and called it Diamond Dogs. It still has songs on it titled "1984" and "Big Brother", but also contains songs like the title song and "Rebel Rebel". I seem to remember that DD was my first Bowie album. Damon C Capehart | aka Le Monsieur Damon | dcapehar at utdallas.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have questions about the QUEST Bible studies and prayer meetings at U.T.D. or about QUEST in general, e-mail me at QUEST at utdallas.edu, or visit the QUEST website, maintained by scarson at utdallas.edu, at http://www.utdallas.edu/orgs/quest/ From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Mon Oct 28 23:40:38 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 05:40:38 +0100 Subject: BOC: Taming Flelepaths Message-ID: John writes; >The "music box" intro (and that is what it is) is not played live - at >least it isn't on any live performance of it that I've heard. > I write; I've always looked upon it as an intro, but my cd version of ST indicates it as an outro to Harvester... very annoying... :-) -Daniel Wikdahl "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Mon Oct 28 23:55:33 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 05:55:33 +0100 Subject: HW: early poster book Message-ID: > I skimmed thru it at once, and lo-and-behold there are *3* > HW-related posters in there! There is the "Roadhawks" car image, > the Deep Fix NWF cover, and a HW/Man "1999 Party" poster. The > credits say that all were donated by Doug Stiff to Mick. I even > spotted the grey BOC cover with the Messiersmitt(sp)... ...no my friend, the spelling is; B.E.S.S.E.R.W.I.S.S.E.R Am I right or am I right? :-) -Daniel Wikdahl "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From pookadad at DELTANET.COM Tue Oct 29 15:47:40 1996 From: pookadad at DELTANET.COM (Michael G Karschner) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:47:40 -0800 Subject: Brain Surgeons Message-ID: I've only got "Trepanation," and I really like it--especially Deb Frost's vocals!!! As far as I'm concerned, the more she sings, the better-- awesome voice!! I'm eagerly awaiting BoH. -- Mike From scruto19 at POTSDAM.EDU Tue Oct 29 16:34:53 1996 From: scruto19 at POTSDAM.EDU (Jason Scruton) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:34:53 -0400 Subject: BOC : 'Imaginos' and tBS (ever notice those are a cable station's initials?) Message-ID: Jerry wrote: >'Scuse me? My favourite BOC album... The only thing discussed on BOC-L is >whether is it a BOC album or not. It /is/ a great album. I don't care if >it's BOC or not - a wonderful album! > >And even for the ones who don't think it to be such a great album - what >about a complete collection. > >Jerry Given that, I think this ties in well with the question of what does tBS sound like in relation to BOC that's been bouncing around. I think it provides a good transition from the classic BOC material into what Al Bouchard went on to do (and is still doing) with the Brain Surgeons. It's heavy, clever and just plain high quality musicianship as is found on Eponymous and Trepanation. Though i would advise against buying the audio cassetter version of Imaginos- a friend o mine has it. when I compared it to the Cd version I picked up a while afterwards, the tape sound is fairly muddy (though I did notice that "I am the one you warned me of" still sounds fairly "blunt" on the CD (too many overdubs and the like maybe?) No comprehendo, Jason From clore at COLUMBIA-CENTER.ORG Tue Oct 29 16:51:13 1996 From: clore at COLUMBIA-CENTER.ORG (Clore) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 13:51:13 -0800 Subject: BOC: UFO refs in ETI Message-ID: Several phrases here refer to UFO lore. "Daylight disk"--this comes from the classification system proposed by J. Allen Hynek in *The UFO Experience: A Scientific Inquiry* (1974). Refers to a flying saucer seen during the day, as opposed to a "nocturnal light" and too far away to count as a "close encounter" (term first proposed here). "Fairy rings"--refers most properly to rings of underground fungus that make the grass very green above them. Also refers to a large circular fungus that kills the grass above it, leaving a big circle of white gunk on the ground. Often identified as traces of UFO landings. "Dead leaves always give up motion"--the famous "dead leaf motion" or "falling leaf motion" of UFOs refers to their pattern of descent, going back and forth and pausing. Dan Clore Don't forget the Alice Cooper for President page: http://www.users.nwark.com/~chigger/coop4prez/ From fswof at AURORA.ALASKA.EDU Tue Oct 29 16:56:58 1996 From: fswof at AURORA.ALASKA.EDU (William Fuller) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 12:56:58 -0900 Subject: BOC: UFO refs in ETI In-Reply-To: <32767C51.4E2@columbia-center.org> Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, Clore wrote: > "Fairy rings"--refers most properly to rings of underground fungus that > make the grass very green above them. Also refers to a large circular > fungus that kills the grass above it, leaving a big circle of white gunk > on the ground. Often identified as traces of UFO landings. I have also seen fairy rings of mushrooms, most notably Amanita Muscaria (fly agaric) growing near where I grew up. -- William Fuller fswof at aurora.alaska.edu From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Tue Oct 29 17:12:43 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 22:12:43 UT Subject: Artists needed! Message-ID: >iron maiden did a song based on frank herbert's 'dune'. Veering rapidly off-topic, and demonstrating how this sci-fi nonsense gets everywhere these days :), Jamiroquai's new album is called _Travelling Without Moving_, which is a quote from _Dune_. (At least, it's almost a catchphrase in the movie. Can't speak for the book.) - Andy From Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM Tue Oct 29 17:12:21 1996 From: Andy_Gilham at MSN.COM (Andrew Gilham) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 22:12:21 UT Subject: More Space Bandits Talk Message-ID: > with the recent slagging of Space Bandits Excuse me! I said "(poor)" after mentioning Space Bandits, and it suddenly becomes slagging? Especially when every other post on the subject has been to say how much they like it? There's a Shakespeare line about protesting too much... :) - Andy From clore at COLUMBIA-CENTER.ORG Tue Oct 29 17:29:23 1996 From: clore at COLUMBIA-CENTER.ORG (Clore) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:29:23 -0800 Subject: BOC: UFO refs in ETI Message-ID: William Fuller wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, Clore wrote: > > > "Fairy rings"--refers most properly to rings of underground fungus that > > make the grass very green above them. Also refers to a large circular > > fungus that kills the grass above it, leaving a big circle of white gunk > > on the ground. Often identified as traces of UFO landings. > > I have also seen fairy rings of mushrooms, most notably Amanita Muscaria > (fly agaric) growing near where I grew up. > > -- > William Fuller fswof at aurora.alaska.edu And there's a very obvious connection with fairyland there-- Dan Clore From dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU Tue Oct 29 17:37:58 1996 From: dcapehar at UTDALLAS.EDU (Damon C Capehart) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 16:37:58 -0600 Subject: OFF: Dune refs (was: Artists needed!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, Andrew Gilham wrote: > >iron maiden did a song based on frank herbert's 'dune'. > Veering rapidly off-topic, and demonstrating how this sci-fi nonsense gets > everywhere these days :), Jamiroquai's new album is called _Travelling > Without Moving_, which is a quote from _Dune_. (At least, it's almost a > catchphrase in the movie. Can't speak for the book.) AND, to turn full circle to what was a seemingly unrelated OFF topic, Namlook also released an album with a Dune reference. _Air_II_ is titled (subtitled?) _Travelling_Without_Moving_ also. And, in case you're curious or interested, we can link Namlook right back atcha because _Air_I_ was titled (subtitled?) _You_. Creepy, huh? Damon C Capehart | aka Le Monsieur Damon | dcapehar at utdallas.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have questions about the QUEST Bible studies and prayer meetings at U.T.D. or about QUEST in general, e-mail me at QUEST at utdallas.edu, or visit the QUEST website, maintained by scarson at utdallas.edu, at http://www.utdallas.edu/orgs/quest/ P.S.: I will simply *have* to get Jamiroquai's new album. P.P.S: ObCD(ifIhadaplayerwithme): Yes, _Keys_To_Ascension_ (yes, it's awesome) From JMBpackers at AOL.COM Tue Oct 29 20:57:48 1996 From: JMBpackers at AOL.COM (J M Blahnik) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 20:57:48 -0500 Subject: BOC: Re: Taming Flelepaths Message-ID: In a message dated 96-10-29 16:54:56 EST, you write: << a quick question: is the "music box" intro to Flaming Telepaths (or is it >the outro to Harvester of Eyes?) ever played live by the group? and is it >really a music box that we hear? Flaming Telepaths was played on the last tour in Niagara Falls, NY. After that I saw them in Allentown, PA and Buffalo, NY and it had been dropped from the set. >> But, IS IT a music box? If so, what might the title be? Jim From StevenTice at AOL.COM Tue Oct 29 22:25:36 1996 From: StevenTice at AOL.COM (Steven Tice) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 22:25:36 -0500 Subject: BOC: UFO refs in ETI Message-ID: Yes, we got a nice crop of fairy ring mushrooms here in central PA a year or so ago around this time of year, because the leaves fell off of one large tree during a period of little wind (so they really piled up) and then didn't get gathered up for a few days. When we finally got around to raking them, we discovered a large circle of white mushrooms had sprouted up from underneath! The circle was a good fifteen to twenty feet in diameter, if I remember right. There are circles of greener grass in the yard that are indications of previous fairy ring mushroom sproutings, and last for years. Let us also not forget that ETI is part of one of the later chapters of the Imaginos saga... SET From skarsol at EROLS.COM Tue Oct 29 22:18:36 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 03:18:36 +0000 Subject: OFF: dune,was=Artists needed! Message-ID: Andrew Gilham wrote: > > >iron maiden did a song based on frank herbert's 'dune'. > > Veering rapidly off-topic, and demonstrating how this sci-fi nonsense gets > everywhere these days :), Jamiroquai's new album is called _Travelling > Without Moving_, which is a quote from _Dune_. (At least, it's almost a > catchphrase in the movie. Can't speak for the book.) > > - Andy dont recognize the phrase from the books,but that doesn't mean it wasnt there. the concept definitely was, tho. the 'steersmen' "folded" space,making interstellar travel simple and quik. this also placed them in a near devine position. in the movie the steersman was the creature that apparently had the wrong orifice on its face,and made the statement- 'i did not say this;i am not here.' this line is used by paul shutze to kick off his album 'new maps of hell,' which is an excellent avant-garde piece,highly recommended to anyone who wants highly rythmic,trance inducing cyber-jazz. it is on the extreme label i think. (muslim gauze,mo boma,shinjuki theif) rj From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Wed Oct 30 02:33:13 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 02:33:13 -0500 Subject: More Space Bandits Talk Message-ID: On 29-OCT-1996 14:11:47.2 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >HW have done "one genuinely bad song". It's called Camera That Could Lie >and it's on ITBOTFTBD. It pongs so bad I can smell it from here. Oh yeah? Well, I have one thing to say to you, "Douglas", and that's "Good Morning". :) Chuck `[1;30;40mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From hdboc at 3-CITIES.COM Wed Oct 30 04:25:05 1996 From: hdboc at 3-CITIES.COM (Jack W. Heffling) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 01:25:05 -0800 Subject: BOC: Taming Flelepaths Message-ID: At 14:11 10/29/96 -0500, you wrote: >The "music box" intro (and that is what it is) is not played live - at >least it isn't on any live performance of it that I've heard. > >John I have a live recording that starts with Morning Final with Allen finishing the song on the keyboard with a great entry into Flaming Telepaths. It's been my favorite anyway. The same concert, I believe it was recorded in Boston, has the best drum solo I have ever heard. Albert of course! :) Jack http://j-and-a.com/boc.html From stayer at PI.NET Wed Oct 30 03:15:09 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 00:15:09 PST Subject: BOC: Taming Flelepaths Message-ID: Jason was wondering: >a quick question: is the "music box" intro to Flaming Telepaths (or is it >the outro to Harvester of Eyes?) ever played live by the group? and is it >really a music box that we hear? According to the FAQ, the musical box sound was taken from, surprise, a musical box. It originated from Germany, and to this day, no one seems to know what the piece is called or who wrote it. My guess would be that BOC have never "played" this live. (Play the tape, that is.) Jerry From stayer at PI.NET Wed Oct 30 03:12:43 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 00:12:43 PST Subject: BOC: UFO refs in ETI Message-ID: >On Tue, 29 Oct 1996, Clore wrote: >> "Fairy rings"--refers most properly to rings of underground fungus that >> make the grass very green above them. Also refers to a large circular >> fungus that kills the grass above it, leaving a big circle of white gunk >> on the ground. Often identified as traces of UFO landings. Then William said: >I have also seen fairy rings of mushrooms, most notably Amanita Muscaria >(fly agaric) growing near where I grew up. Some story says those are "witches' rings", and that's exactly what they're still called in Dutch. But translated into Dutch, of course... Jerry From stayer at PI.NET Wed Oct 30 02:56:38 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 23:56:38 PST Subject: OFF: copyright permissions (was: Artists needed!) Message-ID: >A nearly identical scenario occured with David Bowie. In 1974 (I think), >he came up with a few songs setting Orwell's 1984 to music. In the midst >of his composing period, he (or the label) contacted Orwell's estate, and >Orwell's widow refused to let Bowie release any album with the above >description. (Probably something about not wanting to release anything >about 1984 until 1984, though Mrs. Orwell may have simply not liked >Bowie's music, or she was afraid of bisexual glam rockers, or something.) >So Bowie simply completed the songs that he already had mostly written, >then wrote the rest of the album, which was relatively unrelated to the >book, and called it Diamond Dogs. Spirit had a song called "1984", and they wrote it in 1972 or even earlier. In 1978 they sang "just six years from tonight", in 1983 they sang "just one year from tonight" and I have to re-listen to the 1995 tape on which they played it again. When the single was about to be released, it was banned from the radio, because the contents were supposed to be politically objective. I don't think Spirit ever thought about asking for permission, but eventually it got banned anyway - by radio. Jerry From mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE Wed Oct 30 05:14:59 1996 From: mpj95wid at MC.HIK.SE (Daniel Wikdahl) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 11:14:59 +0100 Subject: BOC: UFO refs in ETI Message-ID: Jerry writes; >Some story says those are "witches' rings", and that's exactly what they're >still called in Dutch. But translated into Dutch, of course... > They're called witches' rings in Swedish too ("Haexringar")!!! -Daniel Wikdahl . "Jag har en papegoja -s? jag best?mmer" (Rickard Fuchs) Daniel Wikdahl Kaptensgatan 2a S-39 236 KALMAR SWEDEN 0480-245 11 From skarsol at EROLS.COM Wed Oct 30 01:17:14 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 06:17:14 +0000 Subject: off: fungalrings. Message-ID: Jerry wrote: > Some story says those are "witches' rings", and that's exactly what they're > still called in Dutch. But translated into Dutch, of course... > > Jerry roger zelazny-the amber series. the minions of chaos sprang from a dark area in avalon,which started out as a small ring of toadstools. rj From hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK Wed Oct 30 07:26:50 1996 From: hssmrg at BATH.AC.UK (M R Godwin) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 12:26:50 +0000 Subject: BOC: UFO refs in ETI In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19961030101459.008d61a0@mailbox.mc.hik.se> Message-ID: On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Daniel Wikdahl wrote: > They're called witches' rings in Swedish too ("Haexringar")!!! Although they are called 'Fairy rings' in English, it is quite possible that this has the same meaning of "enchanted rings" rather than rings for cute Tinkerbell-style dancing. The word "faery" meant "enchanted" before "fairies" were invented (see Tolkien "On Fairy Stories" and Shippey "The Road to Middle Earth") - Mike Godwin From a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK Wed Oct 30 08:56:40 1996 From: a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK (Andrew Fergus Wilson) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:56:40 -0000 Subject: ICU! Message-ID: ---------- > >He's a bit modest - it's only *mostly* crap! "Birdland" is really good, and > >there's a couple of other high spots. But "Forbidden Planet" and "Stop the > >City" are really pretty crummy, and it's far and away ICU's worst album. > The two tracks that spring to my mind as high points! > FP having a fine lyric "Spaceships, Oh you silver needles!" which is > also the standard line when doing Nik impersonations down the pub. > > Stop the City also has the fine lyric "In the temple, the big > skateboarder zig-zags through the law and order." Genius! :) > >- Andy > Jon Browne and i like "wildhunt" immensely (it still brings back memories of cycling across lewis in the pissing rain to get to the callanish stones before sundown, aahhhh), so that's about half the album covered ... looks like a case of Something For Everyone.,. oh, and i can't remember who was yearning for a copy of the maximum effect, but, you have a wound, and i have some salt: visiting old londinium on monday, i chanced into notting hill exchange and got it in *very* good condition for 4 quid. Hahahahahaha! But having cackled and gloated, i couldn't afford the 20 odd quid they wanted for the presidents tapes. If only i didn't used to trust other people with my records. Oh, and Max, i've got the UZ album put to one side in the shop, and will pick it up for you on friday (for 4 landlubbing pounds (*not* forfar athletic)). Oh, and Scott, your tape will be 'in the post' by this weekend, sorry for the delay. andrew andrew f wilson "up and down round and round centre for social research story of my life" - Inner City Unit university of derby a.wilson at derby.ac.uk zedspace at geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/6368 http://yi.com/home/WilsonAndrew From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Oct 30 08:48:05 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:48:05 -0500 Subject: BOC: UFO refs in ETI Message-ID: Dan: O.K. if I add your UFO/ETI references to the FAQ? John From mordru at MAGG.NET Wed Oct 30 08:52:56 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:52:56 -0500 Subject: BOC: Taming Flelepaths Message-ID: >John writes; >>The "music box" intro (and that is what it is) is not played live - at >>least it isn't on any live performance of it that I've heard. >> >I write; >I've always looked upon it as an intro, but my cd version of ST indicates it >as an outro to Harvester... very annoying... :-) Yeah, but on WOTT, which uses a live Harvester and the ST Telepaths, the music box intro is right before Telepaths (which is before Harvester anyways). =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From mordru at MAGG.NET Wed Oct 30 08:53:01 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:53:01 -0500 Subject: BOC: Re: Taming Flelepaths Message-ID: >In a message dated 96-10-29 16:54:56 EST, you write: > ><< a quick question: is the "music box" intro to Flaming Telepaths (or is it > >the outro to Harvester of Eyes?) ever played live by the group? and is it > >really a music box that we hear? > > Flaming Telepaths was played on the last tour in Niagara Falls, NY. > After that I saw them in Allentown, PA and Buffalo, NY and it had > been dropped from the set. >> They played it when I saw them in Sunrise. I liked the strobe light effect Eric used, one of the few special effects they did use. With the recent drop of Eric tunes to save his voice that might've been why Telepaths was dropped, but I hate to see it go, it's probably my favorite song... On alt.music.blueoystercult, someone heard a rumour that BOC would do one last show this year in Florida, but none of the web pages that show their dates mentioned it. The guy who posted the rumour didn't say where, anyone heard anything? =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From clore at COLUMBIA-CENTER.ORG Wed Oct 30 08:56:17 1996 From: clore at COLUMBIA-CENTER.ORG (Clore) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 05:56:17 -0800 Subject: BOC: UFO refs in ETI Message-ID: Not to get too off subject, but my earlier post has gotten some response indicating that this is interesting. Fairy rings, in folklore, are caused by fairies dancing in a ring. The fairies of folklore were not the Tinkerbell type but very powerful supernatural beings. The Tinkerbell type was invented for the stage after belief had (mostly) died down--apparently by Shakespeare. It seems odd, but in folklore fairies and witches (and also ghosts) often take each other's places. So it's no surprise fairy rings are called witches' rings in some places. Dan Clore From mordru at MAGG.NET Wed Oct 30 08:53:06 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:53:06 -0500 Subject: off: fungalrings. Message-ID: >Jerry wrote: > >> Some story says those are "witches' rings", and that's exactly what they're >> still called in Dutch. But translated into Dutch, of course... >> >> Jerry > >roger zelazny-the amber series. the minions of chaos sprang from a dark >area in avalon,which started out as a small ring of toadstools. No, they didn't. That was Lorraine, not Avalon. Avalon was where Corwin had once lived and ruled, and we know that it fell, but are never told to what. Whilst seeking Avalon, he found Lorraine, got caught up in the local battle with the minions of the circle (which started as a small ring of toadstools), and so on. Later, he finally does make it to a shadow similar to Avalon, that also had a dark menace similar to the circle, but that was some hellmaids and we aren't given much descriptions apart from that... =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Oct 30 08:55:50 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 08:55:50 -0500 Subject: BOC: Taming Flelepaths Message-ID: Jerry sez: >According to the FAQ, the musical box sound was taken from, surprise, a musical box. It originated from Germany, and to this day, no one seems to know what the piece is called or who wrote it. Hmm... I went back and checked the FAQ 'cuz I don't remember having any info on the music box in there -- after checking, I found no info on the music box in the FAQ. However, I do recall Albert posting some info about the music box, but there's no info in the FAQ on it. John From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Oct 30 09:03:20 1996 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 09:03:20 -0500 Subject: BOC: Secret Treaties Music Box Message-ID: Here's Albert's response to my query about the music box - this was about a year ago, I think: > I'll second that, and add that most of *Tyranny and Mutation* has > the tracks pretty much segued together. Of particular interest, IMHO, is > the > "music box" segue between "Harvester of Eyes" and "Flaming Telepaths". > Hey Al, can you provide any insight on that one? That was one of the best production moves that SP/MK did for that album. It was totally Murry's idea. - Incidentally MK has a new record company called Silver Wolf Records. I just got his newest record and it's an album to benefit the homeless. I think it's pretty good, kinda in the folkie style. I'm not sure if it's in the stores or not. - Back to ST, One of the reasons we got Jack Douglas to mix OYFOOYK was because we were so dissapointed in the mixes of ST. We were o the road when Demonic Duo (MK/SP) mixed the record. I remember being pretty bummed with most of the mixes (especially Subhuman). But the music box thing was cool. It's my mother's favorite part of the album. Al John From M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK Wed Oct 30 09:17:47 1996 From: M.S.Wright at READING.AC.UK (Mike Wright) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:17:47 +0000 Subject: HW in literature. Message-ID: I was recently reading Morvern Callar the first novel by Alan Warner, which is about a 21 year old low paid employee in a supermarket, written in a very entertaining style. I bring it to your attention because the main character often lists what she is listening to, and as well as being a Can fan and Holger Czukay listener, when she goes away to a sunny resort she makes up a tape especially for sunbathing, and spookily enough the 7th track on side 1 is Robert Calvert: Ejection. I find this so pleasing that I now recommend everyone to go out and buy the book, it is a right riveting read, and only costs 5.99 and is published by Vintage. Mike w From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Wed Oct 30 04:46:35 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 09:46:35 +0000 Subject: More Space Bandits Talk In-Reply-To: <01IB8KRY6ONM8ZE8VN@delphi.com> Message-ID: In message <01IB8KRY6ONM8ZE8VN at delphi.com>, HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM writes >On 29-OCT-1996 14:11:47.2 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 > >HW have done "one genuinely bad song". It's called Camera That Could Lie > >and it's on ITBOTFTBD. It pongs so bad I can smell it from here. > >Oh yeah? Well, I have one thing to say to you, "Douglas", and that's "Good >Morning". :) > >Chuck >`[1;30;40mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive yeah, right sorry, make that two. "Douglas" really hums too! "Good Morning" though? Do you mean "Good Evening" off Xenon Codex? Or should I say the *excellant* "Good Evening" off Xenon Codex? Surely not? -- Jon Browne From pitkin at MARYWOOD1.MARYWOOD.EDU Wed Oct 30 13:38:38 1996 From: pitkin at MARYWOOD1.MARYWOOD.EDU (Bryan Pitkin) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:38:38 E Subject: Hawkfaries (appologies on the mess) Message-ID: From: MX%"Postmaster at ac.marywood.edu" 30-OCT-1996 13:28:18.31 To: MX%"pitkin at ac.marywood.edu" CC: Subj: LOCAL delivery error Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:28:11 E From: Local delivery agent To: Subject: LOCAL delivery error X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:" Note: this message was generated automatically. An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes. --> Error description: Error-For: boc-l-listserve$spc$edu at ac.marywood.edu Error-Code: 3 Error-Text: No such local user Error-End: 1 error detected ------------------------------ Rejected message ------------------------------ Received: by marywood1.marywood.edu (MX V4.2 VAX) id 16; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:28:10 E Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:28:09 E From: pitkin at marywood1.marywood.edu Reply-To: pitkin at ac.marywood.edu To: boc-l-listserve.spc.edu at ac.marywood.edu Message-ID: <009AA9EE.A7EA45E0.16 at marywood1.marywood.edu> Subject: Hawk Faries To all who are interested: I was recently flipping thru an issue of "Goldmine" and came across an advert for Worldwide CD in thier listings for HW was this: HAWK FARIES- PURPLE HAZE LIVE it was described as Nik Turner, Twink and gang live April 15, 1995 it's price was marked at $27 US plus shipping. Is this worth getting? What's on it? Bootleg? I figured I'd post this, a while back there was a Q as to what Nik was doing you can contact them via E-mail: WORLDCD at AOL.COM ############################ on an unrelated note. Space Bandits was the first HW album I ever accuired so it has some sentimental attachment. besides, just look at the live versions of some songs on California Brainstorm (Wishart was amazing on that album) ############################...just my two cents. cheers, bryan pitkin at ac.marywood.edu *************************************************************************** obCD The Elevator Drops- killer track "Shangrila" From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Wed Oct 30 15:03:50 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:03:50 -0500 Subject: More Space Bandits Talk Message-ID: On 30-OCT-1996 12:45:27.3 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >In message <01IB8KRY6ONM8ZE8VN at delphi.com>, HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM writes >>On 29-OCT-1996 14:11:47.2 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >> >HW have done "one genuinely bad song". It's called Camera That >Could Lie >> >and it's on ITBOTFTBD. It pongs so bad I can smell it from here. >> >>Oh yeah? Well, I have one thing to say to you, "Douglas", and that's >"Good >Morning". :) >> >>Chuck >>`[1;30;40mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive >yeah, right sorry, make that two. "Douglas" really hums too! "Good >Morning" though? Do you mean "Good Evening" off Xenon Codex? Or should I >say the *excellant* "Good Evening" off Xenon Codex? Surely not? >-- Oh sorry, I meant "Good Evening". Yes, Good Evening! :) I can relate to the part about getting a job, though... >Jon Browne Chuck `[1;34;45mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From Christopher.Stier at LEXIS-NEXIS.COM Wed Oct 30 15:04:55 1996 From: Christopher.Stier at LEXIS-NEXIS.COM (Stier, Christopher) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:04:55 -0500 Subject: Hawkfaries (appologies on the mess) Message-ID: You know, I may be the only person on this list that likes this CD...I'm not going to put it near the top of my favorites but there are some pretty cool freak-out jams on it. D-Rider does sound pretty cool. BTW, the last track is listed as Stormbringer. Where is it? Chris Stier San Francisco x4445 If we could just get everyone to close their eyes and visualize world peace for an hour, imagine how serene and quiet it would be until the looting started. >---------- >From: Bryan Pitkin[SMTP:pitkin at MARYWOOD1.MARYWOOD.EDU] >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 1996 5:38 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Subject: Hawkfaries (appologies on the mess) > >From: MX%"Postmaster at ac.marywood.edu" 30-OCT-1996 13:28:18.31 >To: MX%"pitkin at ac.marywood.edu" >CC: >Subj: LOCAL delivery error > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:28:11 E >From: Local delivery agent >To: >Subject: LOCAL delivery error >X-Report-Type: Nondelivery; boundary="> Error description:" > >Note: this message was generated automatically. > >An error was detected while processing the enclosed message. A list of >the affected recipients follows. This list is in a special format that >allows software like LISTSERV to automatically take action on incorrect >addresses; you can safely ignore the numeric codes. > >--> Error description: >Error-For: boc-l-listserve$spc$edu at ac.marywood.edu >Error-Code: 3 >Error-Text: No such local user > >Error-End: 1 error detected > >------------------------------ Rejected message >------------------------------ >Received: by marywood1.marywood.edu (MX V4.2 VAX) id 16; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 >13:28:10 E >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 13:28:09 E >From: pitkin at marywood1.marywood.edu >Reply-To: pitkin at ac.marywood.edu >To: boc-l-listserve.spc.edu at ac.marywood.edu >Message-ID: <009AA9EE.A7EA45E0.16 at marywood1.marywood.edu> >Subject: Hawk Faries > >To all who are interested: > >I was recently flipping thru an issue of "Goldmine" and came across an >advert for Worldwide CD in thier listings for HW was this: > >HAWK FARIES- PURPLE HAZE LIVE > >it was described as Nik Turner, Twink and gang live April 15, 1995 > >it's price was marked at $27 US plus shipping. >Is this worth getting? What's on it? Bootleg? >I figured I'd post this, a while back there was a Q as to what Nik was doing >you can contact them via E-mail: >WORLDCD at AOL.COM > >############################ >on an unrelated note. Space Bandits was the first HW album I ever accuired >so it has some sentimental attachment. besides, just look at the live >versions of some songs on California Brainstorm (Wishart was amazing on >that album) >############################...just my two cents. >cheers, >bryan pitkin at ac.marywood.edu >*************************************************************************** >obCD The Elevator Drops- killer track "Shangrila" > From skarsol at EROLS.COM Wed Oct 30 11:06:45 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:06:45 +0000 Subject: off: fungalrings. Message-ID: Andrew A. Apold wrote: > > >Jerry wrote: > > > >> Some story says those are "witches' rings", and that's exactly what they're > >> still called in Dutch. But translated into Dutch, of course... > >> > >> Jerry > > > >roger zelazny-the amber series. the minions of chaos sprang from a dark > >area in avalon,which started out as a small ring of toadstools. > > No, they didn't. That was Lorraine, not Avalon. Avalon was where Corwin had > once lived and ruled, and we know that it fell, but are never told to what. > Whilst > seeking Avalon, he found Lorraine, got caught up in the local battle with the > minions of the circle (which started as a small ring of toadstools), and so on. > Later, he finally does make it to a shadow similar to Avalon, that also had > a dark > menace similar to the circle, but that was some hellmaids and we aren't given > much descriptions apart from that... well, excuuuuuuu-uuuuu--uuse me! its only been about 18 years since i read it..... =) rj From skarsol at EROLS.COM Wed Oct 30 11:14:41 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:14:41 +0000 Subject: Hawkfaries (appologies on the mess) Message-ID: Bryan Pitkin wrote: {weird shit ommitted....} > To all who are interested: > > I was recently flipping thru an issue of "Goldmine" and came across an > advert for Worldwide CD in thier listings for HW was this: > > HAWK FARIES- PURPLE HAZE LIVE > > it was described as Nik Turner, Twink and gang live April 15, 1995 > > it's price was marked at $27 US plus shipping. > Is this worth getting? What's on it? Bootleg? it is an official release by twink.my oppinion is that it is a rippoff at the price. there are a few hendrix covers on there,and jimi is probably shaking in his tomb. they ruin the disc imo. there are some interesting parts.the album is not the complete crap i thot it was at first,but 30 bucks is much more than its worth.i think what mostly ruins it is that nik's singing is worse than usual,and it hasnt been good for a while,now. rj From jguizar at EPIX.NET Wed Oct 30 17:04:30 1996 From: jguizar at EPIX.NET (Jerry Guizar) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:04:30 -0500 Subject: More Space Bandits Talk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In , on 10/29/96 at 05:02 PM, Jon Browne said: >In message <199610291558.KAA26590 at wcic.org>, John Majka > writes >>Best overall album: Hall of the Mountain Grill >Possibly. >> Palace Springs (I never can make up my mind--I think >> both are ingenious) >I do like PS, but the best HW album ever? Surely, that's Space Ritual or >Doremi or Xenon Codex or Electric Tepee or even SONIC ATTACK :))) Nahhhh, it's anything up to and including Q,S & C :) Their worst, hmmm, all I can say is I haven't bought any that made me think I wasted my money. I'm missing 4 or 5 (including Bring me the Head...) I've heard some so-so comments on the Anthology and Acid Daze albums, but I still want those. Jerry ----------------------------------------------------------- jguizar at epix.net ----------------------------------------------------------- From mccolmp at MAIL.AUBURN.EDU Wed Oct 30 17:38:12 1996 From: mccolmp at MAIL.AUBURN.EDU (Michael P Mccollum) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:38:12 -0600 Subject: OFF:spectrum In-Reply-To: Message-ID: sonic boom of spacemen 3 fames new project spectrum is pretty daRN COOL I JUST GOT AN EP called" songs for owsley" (famous lsd maker) it is in the space-rock electronic genre - if you like weird hummings and knob noodling and theremin stuff this might be for you - especialy cool is a spoken piece taken from a book called "the new atlantis" written in the 1700's decribing sound reproduction equipment. sounds like the guy who wrote it had seen a stereo and was trying to describe it to his contemporarys. -this cd also reminds me of melting euphoria in a way even though it is all electronic. -later mike psyche From clore at COLUMBIA-CENTER.ORG Wed Oct 30 18:12:07 1996 From: clore at COLUMBIA-CENTER.ORG (Clore) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:12:07 -0800 Subject: Voivod Message-ID: Does anyone else here listen to Voivod? They're a Canadian band, most of their lyrics revolve around science fiction themes--sometimes derivative, sometimes pretty clever. They started out as basically a thrashmetal/deathmetal/speedmetal band, but increasingly used jazz chords and got into a heavy Pink Floyd influence (including covers of Astronomy Domine and The Nile Song). Best is probably Angel Rat, with Nothingface and The Outer Limits as close seconds. Their latest, with changed lineup, Negatron, is more their original sound, but the CD has cool multimedia animation on it. Let me know, Dan Clore From skarsol at EROLS.COM Wed Oct 30 14:28:00 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:28:00 +0000 Subject: Hawkfaries (appologies on the mess) Message-ID: Stier, Christopher wrote: > > You know, I may be the only person on this list that likes this CD...I'm > not going to put it near the top of my favorites but there are some > pretty cool freak-out jams on it. D-Rider does sound pretty cool. BTW, > the last track is listed as Stormbringer. Where is it? i listened about 6 times in two days trying to find this.there are a couple of licks reminiscent of deep purple's stormbringer,but not enuff to list as a track. d-rider is a cool jam,but once again,the vocals spoil it. rj From jlevin at PANIX.COM Wed Oct 30 20:47:07 1996 From: jlevin at PANIX.COM (Jed Levin) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 20:47:07 -0500 Subject: HW: Alien 4 In-Reply-To: <199610301000.FAA12942@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: I had thought that Hawkwind's latest studio album was "It is the Business of the Future...," and was confused as to where all those tracks on "Love in Space" came from. Then yesterday I saw a copy of "Alien 4" and it all made sense, but this is the first I've ssen or heard of that album! Can anyone compare the CD to the performances of the same songs on "Love in Space?" Also, can someone let me know the best print Hawkzine that's currently publishing, and supply a contact address? --Jed Levin From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Wed Oct 30 23:46:29 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:46:29 +0800 Subject: More Space Bandits Talk Message-ID: > yeah, right sorry, make that two. "Douglas" really hums too! "Good > Morning" though? Do you mean "Good Evening" off Xenon Codex? Or should I > say the *excellant* "Good Evening" off Xenon Codex? Surely not? > -- > Jon Browne "Good Evening" is one of those great songs which shows Hawkwind have a sense of humour. I really like their fun songs (others include "Valium 10" & Dave's "Machine Dream"). These songs just go to show that HW are not all doom and gloom like others of their ilk. William From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Wed Oct 30 23:51:09 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:51:09 +1100 Subject: OFF: Voivod In-Reply-To: <3277E0C7.626F@columbia-center.org> Message-ID: On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Clore wrote: > Does anyone else here listen to Voivod? They're a Canadian band, most > of their lyrics revolve around science fiction themes--sometimes > derivative, sometimes pretty clever. They started out as basically a > thrashmetal/deathmetal/speedmetal band, but increasingly used jazz > chords and got into a heavy Pink Floyd influence (including covers of > Astronomy Domine and The Nile Song). Best is probably Angel Rat, with > Nothingface and The Outer Limits as close seconds. Their latest, with > changed lineup, Negatron, is more their original sound, but the CD has > cool multimedia animation on it. > Let me know, > Dan Clore > I have always thought that Voivod were an enigma. I remember listening to them in my younger days, when they were a metal band. I can't imagine them doing anything "non-thrash". If they have grown up into other styles of music- what do they do with the vocals? Still death metalish style or what? Troy From tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU Wed Oct 30 23:54:10 1996 From: tlh at RUBENS.ITS.UNIMELB.EDU.AU (Troy Harris) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:54:10 +1100 Subject: More Space Bandits Talk In-Reply-To: <32782F25.5B49@iinet.net.au> Message-ID: On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, William Duffy wrote: > > yeah, right sorry, make that two. "Douglas" really hums too! "Good > > Morning" though? Do you mean "Good Evening" off Xenon Codex? Or should I > > say the *excellant* "Good Evening" off Xenon Codex? Surely not? > > -- > > Jon Browne > > "Good Evening" is one of those great songs which shows Hawkwind have a > sense of humour. I really like their fun songs (others include "Valium > 10" & Dave's "Machine Dream"). Ahhh, Valium 10! Now there's a cool song! Is it only on "Friends and realtions vol.1" or are other versions elsewhere? Troy > From xl5 at IINET.NET.AU Thu Oct 31 00:23:59 1996 From: xl5 at IINET.NET.AU (William Duffy) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:23:59 +0800 Subject: More Space Bandits Talk Message-ID: Troy Harris wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, William Duffy wrote: > > > > yeah, right sorry, make that two. "Douglas" really hums too! "Good > > > Morning" though? Do you mean "Good Evening" off Xenon Codex? Or should I > > > say the *excellant* "Good Evening" off Xenon Codex? Surely not? > > > -- > > > Jon Browne > > > > "Good Evening" is one of those great songs which shows Hawkwind have a > > sense of humour. I really like their fun songs (others include "Valium > > 10" & Dave's "Machine Dream"). > > Ahhh, Valium 10! Now there's a cool song! Is it only on "Friends and > realtions vol.1" or are other versions elsewhere? > > Troy > > It's also on one of the "Friends.." CD's (but is a bit shorter), as well as having been on some ep's, singles, and various bootlegs and semi-official albums. The most complete version that I can think of on CD, is on "Mighty Hawkwind Classics". William From mordru at MAGG.NET Thu Oct 31 00:24:52 1996 From: mordru at MAGG.NET (Andrew A. Apold) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 00:24:52 -0500 Subject: off: fungalrings. Message-ID: >Andrew A. Apold wrote: >> >> >roger zelazny-the amber series. the minions of chaos sprang from a dark >> >area in avalon,which started out as a small ring of toadstools. >> >> No, they didn't. That was Lorraine, not Avalon. Avalon was where Corwin had etc. >well, excuuuuuuu-uuuuu--uuse me! its only been about 18 years since i >read it..... =) rj Sorry, it's just that the two lists I get the most traffic on are BOC-L and an Amber list, so your message kidna caught me leaning one way at the moment... =================================== Roger Shrubstaff "I was corrupt before I had power!" - Random Baron of Silverwater Barony of Silverwater Kingdom of the Burning Lands http://www.magg.net/~mordru/silver.htm (Andrew A. Apold) From JMBpackers at AOL.COM Thu Oct 31 04:07:44 1996 From: JMBpackers at AOL.COM (J M Blahnik) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 04:07:44 -0500 Subject: BOC: Florida show Message-ID: In a message dated 96-10-30 08:56:46 EST, you write: << On alt.music.blueoystercult, someone heard a rumour that BOC would do one last show this year in Florida, but none of the web pages that show their dates mentioned it. The guy who posted the rumour didn't say where, anyone heard anything? >> Eric posted to the BOC board that they would do one more show in Florida. Work on the album is going great....pictures of the band at work in the studio are available on the www at the on tour forever site, I believe. I'll try and find the post and copy it. Jim From TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU Thu Oct 31 07:10:21 1996 From: TOJACKSO at HAWK.SYR.EDU (Ted Jackson jr. EL 84) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 07:10:21 EST Subject: Voivod Message-ID: Dan sez: > > Does anyone else here listen to Voivod? They're a Canadian band, most > of their lyrics revolve around science fiction themes--sometimes > derivative, sometimes pretty clever. They started out as basically a > thrashmetal/deathmetal/speedmetal band, but increasingly used jazz > chords and got into a heavy Pink Floyd influence (including covers of > Astronomy Domine and The Nile Song). Best is probably Angel Rat, with > Nothingface and The Outer Limits as close seconds. Their latest, with > changed lineup, Negatron, is more their original sound, but the CD has > cool multimedia animation on it. > Let me know, > Dan Clore Dan, I haven't heard them in a while, but the first time I heard them they blew my mind. I was in Canada and watching sort of a French-speaking MTV-type show from Montreal, Voivod's hometown, I believe. There was a special on about them. I never did pick up any of their discs, though. Does the new one feature their orig. gtr. player? Can't think of his name just now, but I remember he kicked ass... theo From a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK Thu Oct 31 07:56:15 1996 From: a.wilson at DERBY.AC.UK (Andrew Fergus Wilson) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:56:15 -0000 Subject: ICU! Message-ID: ---------- and another thing, steve pond's icu page has the contents of the semi-mythic spectrum program on new anatomy: sleeve notes basically. http://www.skynet.co.uk/doremi/icu/albnew.html andrwe andrew f wilson "up and down round and round centre for social research story of my life" - Inner City Unit university of derby a.wilson at derby.ac.uk zedspace at geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/6368 http://yi.com/home/WilsonAndrew From martinp at INFORAMP.NET Thu Oct 31 08:26:06 1996 From: martinp at INFORAMP.NET (MartinPopoff) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:26:06 -0500 Subject: off: Voivod story Message-ID: Hi folks, Here's a l'il Voivod story I did in Chart about a year ago . . . alt.prog.metal.punk.thrash and Voivod Martin Popoff Over the charred terrain that once housed, in all its bombastic charm and revulsion, the gleaming palaces of heavy metal, came a flannel brigade from the west, followed by moping, anaemic wanderers from the once Great Britain. Soon it came to be that the rock landscape existed of nothing more than loud amps and little hands of concrete (to quote the King), filling the reddened skies with sick puppy songs of buzzing volume, bad production, bad singing, bad playing, and interesting enough lyrics (the one thing hard drugs can facilitate). The sad, sad, streets of Rock'n'Roll Babylon were filled with shuffling, loitering, stooped-shoulder specimens who whined constantly, couldn't play, didn't want to learn anything, and never seemed to eat right. But through the Darwinian battles above ground, the little ol' band from Quebec toiled on, deep beneath the layers and labels, hatching record after record of visceral chaos thrash, culminating in a sort of incubation phase with the sci-fi majestic ugliness of something called Dimension Hatross. Then things got decidedly spacey, while still remaining dissonant, crudely carved, and bent over frowns: records like Nothing Face, Angel Rat and The Outer Limits providing the tunnel traveller with roadmaps to blinding progressive metal locales one ought to leave off the family itinerary. Which brings us to Negatron, the band's bubbling-above-the-crust return to the angry thrashiness of early Voivodian rants. Mad scientist Michel Belanger speaks: <169>Obviously it's a little bit of a new chapter. We're a power trio now (ed. significant addition: Toronto's Eric Forrest on bass and vocals). We decided to go for a heavier sound similar to earlier Voivod. The last few featured a lot of experimenting in the studio, and we got sick of it, putting down all those layers, doing two and three sessions of pre-production. We really wanted to be the new Pink Floyd or Rush. So we went for something more spontaneous, like the first couple of albums, writing the songs, quickly recording them, letting them be.<170> <169>People really expected us to break up after Snake left. There was a lot of negativity, hence the title. I'd been studying nuclear physics in university, and the negatron was always my favorite particle, I guess because they're negatively-charged. And we felt that the last couple of albums were so spaced that it tended to be a little happy at times. We wanted that paranoid feeling back into Voivod, so we started to read about mind manipulation and disinformation and conspiracy theories, and it just lent a really negative feeling to the album. Also, after Eric joined the band, we started to send demos to people, and we seemed to get alot of negative comments from friends and not-so-friends (laughs). And I don't know, it just reminded me of negatrons, circling around the atom, the atom being Voivod, and the negatrons being those slimey people. It's all combined; a bit of a reaction. When I was recording the album, I thought about all those people and it was basically, we'll show them!<170> But amongst many of rock's elite (Soundgarden and Red Hot Chili Peppers included) the band was being appreciated. And Michel took this to heart. <169>I think it was just a matter of finding influences in places other than metal. We always listened to other stuff like industrial, and Bauhaus and classical music, and we tried to incorporate that into our music. Younger bands who were raised on Metallica, Slayer and Voivod started to work with more complex structures. And it's only now with bands like Fear Factory and Sepultura that I see a little bit of influence. But it was only after hearing that from their own mouths, that I started to realize it. It's one of the main reasons that we have a new album out actually. I really wanted to concentrate on computer graphics and animation, but after discussing it with Pantera and people like that, I felt like I wanted to be part of it again.<170> And this newly rejuvenated, sod-bustin' power trio has re-entered the fray in a big way. Right now there's the headlining tour of Europe ("The crowds are nuts. We even have these people that follow us arround from show to show. We call them Voidheads."), with date to follow through North America. Michel also wants to spend more time on his oblique, sci-fi comics, of which he's going to publish a '76 to '96 retrospective through the fan club in the new year, interspersing the art with lyrics and bits of poetry. There's also his animation work on the Insect video, the collaboration with old friend and mutual fan Jim Thirlwell of Foetus on the track D.N.A. ("His lyrics are so personal, it was only natural that he sing them himself."), CD Rom projects, video games, and something the fans have been requesting for years, the possible return of the Voivod character that thematically linked the first five records. So climb aboard. Unreality is just a trip to the record store away . . . Martin Popoff: martinp at inforamp.net Power Chord Press (Riff Kills Man!) P.O. Box 65208, 358 Danforth Ave. Toronto, Ontario M4K 3Z2 From gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK Thu Oct 31 08:42:15 1996 From: gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK (gingoblin at EASYNET.CO.UK) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:42:15 GMT Subject: ICU! Message-ID: andrew wrote >oh, and i can't remember who was yearning for a copy of the maximum effect, >but, you have a wound, and i have some salt: visiting old londinium on >monday, i chanced into notting hill exchange and got it in *very* good >condition for 4 quid. Hahahahahaha! But having cackled and gloated, i >couldn't afford the 20 odd quid they wanted for the presidents tapes. If >only i didn't used to trust other people with my records. 4 quid? Bastard!!!! Oh well, I suppose I'd better go away and play my prestine copy of Presidents Tapes a few times to make up!!! From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Thu Oct 31 08:50:00 1996 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 13:50:00 +0000 Subject: HW: Alien 4 In-Reply-To: Jed Levin's mail of Wed, 30 Oct 96 20:47 -0500 Message-ID: On 31 Oct 01:47, Jed Levin wrote: > Can anyone compare the CD to the performances of the same songs on "Love in > Space?" The versions of Xenomorph and Blue Skin on LiS are really kicking; they're not so strong on A4. Sputnik Stan and Alien I Am are good on both. The instrumental and spoken tracks are fairly similar. The production is slightly better on A4, as you might expect. A4 has some tracks that aren't on LiS. Of these, Beam Me Up is a highlight of the album for me, but rather unpopular with other folks on this list. Festivals is good. Dave. -- Harlequin Ltd., Technology Transfer Centre, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JL, UK. Tel: +44 131 668 1564 From skarsol at EROLS.COM Thu Oct 31 06:04:58 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:04:58 +0000 Subject: More Space Bandits Talk Message-ID: William Duffy wrote: > > Ahhh, Valium 10! Now there's a cool song! Is it only on "Friends and > > realtions vol.1" or are other versions elsewhere? > > > > Troy > > > > > It's also on one of the "Friends.." CD's (but is a bit shorter), as well > as having been on some ep's, singles, and various bootlegs and > semi-official albums. > > The most complete version that I can think of on CD, is on "Mighty > Hawkwind Classics". > > William havent compared versions,but there is also one on the night of the hawks comp. rj From skarsol at EROLS.COM Thu Oct 31 06:07:18 1996 From: skarsol at EROLS.COM (SKARSOL) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:07:18 +0000 Subject: HW: Alien 4 Message-ID: Dave Berry wrote: > > On 31 Oct 01:47, Jed Levin wrote: > > Can anyone compare the CD to the performances of the same songs on "Love in > > Space?" > > The versions of Xenomorph and Blue Skin on LiS are really kicking; they're > not so strong on A4. Sputnik Stan and Alien I Am are good on both. The > instrumental and spoken tracks are fairly similar. The production is > slightly better on A4, as you might expect. > > A4 has some tracks that aren't on LiS. Of these, Beam Me Up is a highlight > of the album for me, but rather unpopular with other folks on this list. > Festivals is good. > good? only good? ;) its the best on the album imo.i agree with the rest of what you say,tho'. rj From jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK Thu Oct 31 10:14:28 1996 From: jaj20 at HERMES.CAM.AC.UK (Jon Jarrett) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:14:28 +0000 Subject: BOC: Florida show In-Reply-To: <961031040744_1382150013@emout11.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, J M Blahnik wrote: > Eric posted to the BOC board that they would do one more show in Florida. > Work on the album is going great....pictures of the band at work in the > studio are available on the WWW at the on tour forever site, I believe. I'll > try and find the post and copy it. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What's the URL for that one? It's new to me. Thanks in advance, yours, Jazza /______________________________________________________________________\ | Jon Jarrett, Pembroke College, Cambridge | | (01223 327450) jaj20 at hermes.cam.ac.uk | | =====================================================================| |"There is a certain pleasure in being mad, which none but madmen know"| \______________________________________________________________________/ From JEFFRIEDLE at AOL.COM Thu Oct 31 10:48:59 1996 From: JEFFRIEDLE at AOL.COM (JEFFRIEDLE at AOL.COM) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 10:48:59 -0500 Subject: Request Info Message-ID: I've changed my email address and want to inform the list. I also want to receive the list in digest form. How do I do that? Jeff From mjf at GRAHAM.COM Thu Oct 31 11:08:17 1996 From: mjf at GRAHAM.COM (Mike Fuller) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 08:08:17 -0800 Subject: More Space Bandits Talk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >>>>> On Thu, 31 Oct 1996 15:54:10 +1100, Troy Harris >>>>> said: Troy> Ahhh, Valium 10! Now there's a cool song! Is it only on "Friends Troy> and realtions vol.1" or are other versions elsewhere? It's the first song on the first CD of the Cleopatra _Space Box_. -- Mike From Christopher.Stier at LEXIS-NEXIS.COM Thu Oct 31 12:02:12 1996 From: Christopher.Stier at LEXIS-NEXIS.COM (Stier, Christopher) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 12:02:12 -0500 Subject: More Space Bandits Talk Message-ID: Was Valium 10 ever performed live in concert? Now that would be something to hear... Chris Stier San Francisco x4445 If we could just get everyone to close their eyes and visualize world peace for an hour, imagine how serene and quiet it would be until the looting started. >---------- >From: William Duffy[SMTP:xl5 at IINET.NET.AU] >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 1996 9:23 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list BOC-L >Subject: Re: More Space Bandits Talk > >Troy Harris wrote: >> >> On Thu, 31 Oct 1996, William Duffy wrote: >> >> > > yeah, right sorry, make that two. "Douglas" really hums too! "Good >> > > Morning" though? Do you mean "Good Evening" off Xenon Codex? Or should >>I >> > > say the *excellant* "Good Evening" off Xenon Codex? Surely not? >> > > -- >> > > Jon Browne >> > >> > "Good Evening" is one of those great songs which shows Hawkwind have a >> > sense of humour. I really like their fun songs (others include "Valium >> > 10" & Dave's "Machine Dream"). >> >> Ahhh, Valium 10! Now there's a cool song! Is it only on "Friends and >> realtions vol.1" or are other versions elsewhere? >> >> Troy >> > > >It's also on one of the "Friends.." CD's (but is a bit shorter), as well >as having been on some ep's, singles, and various bootlegs and >semi-official albums. > >The most complete version that I can think of on CD, is on "Mighty >Hawkwind Classics". > >William > From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Thu Oct 31 12:19:29 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 18:19:29 +0100 Subject: HW: Magazine addresses Message-ID: Hello At 20:47 30.10.96 -0500, you wrote: >Also, can someone let me know the best print Hawkzine that's currently >publishing, and supply a contact address? Here are the most important addresses HAWK-US ======== Bob Lennon 503 S.Warminster Rd. F-2 Hatboro, PA 19040 USA HAWK-EYE ========= Adrian Parr 6 Conifers Close Teddington Middlesex TW11 9JG ENGLAND HAWK-ZINE ========= Dietrich Pless Schillerstra?e 9 65817 Eppstein GERMANY HAWK-FAN ========= Brian Tawn 27 Burdett Road Wisbech Cambs. PE13 2PR ENGLAND STRANGE-TRIPS ============= Jim Lascko 4485 W. 130th St. Cleveland, OH 44135 USA Hope this helps Bernhard From eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK Thu Oct 31 12:22:49 1996 From: eset08 at TATTOO.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 17:22:49 GMT Subject: HW: Valium 10 In-Reply-To: SKARSOL's message of Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:04:58 +0000 Message-ID: SKARSOL writes: > William Duffy wrote: > > > > Ahhh, Valium 10! Now there's a cool song! Is it only on "Friends and > > > realtions vol.1" or are other versions elsewhere? > > It's also on one of the "Friends.." CD's (but is a bit shorter), as well > > as having been on some ep's, singles, and various bootlegs and > > semi-official albums. > > > > The most complete version that I can think of on CD, is on "Mighty > > Hawkwind Classics". > > > > William > > havent compared versions,but there is also one on the night of the hawks > comp. rj from the Codex: Valium Ten 1 Motorhead / Valium 10 12" single 1 Best of Hawkwind Friends & Relations CD 1 Friends And Relations I 1 a Motorhead/ Valium Ten 7" 1 a Night of the Hawk 1 Victoria double album 1 Weird 102 - Hawkwind Live/ Hawklords 1 Mighty Hawkwind Classics 1980-1985 (a) 1a is an edited version of 1 hmmm - more Codex uncertainties.... is it really shorter on F&R ? I'd better check the timings 8-( jill ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at tattoo.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE Thu Oct 31 13:23:47 1996 From: bernhard.pospiech at GELSENKIRCHEN.NETSURF.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 19:23:47 +0100 Subject: More Space Bandits Talk Message-ID: Hi Chris At 12:02 31.10.96 -0500, you wrote: >Was Valium 10 ever performed live in concert? No Bernhard From clore at COLUMBIA-CENTER.ORG Thu Oct 31 14:13:07 1996 From: clore at COLUMBIA-CENTER.ORG (Clore) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 11:13:07 -0800 Subject: Voivod again Message-ID: Voivod, I forgot to mention, have a page at http://www.shmooze.net/voivod/ This has some of the computer art from the Negatron CD. (I agree that "multimedia" is a ridiculous term--but THEY use it.) They have the same guitarist, but a replacement for the singer and drummer--they're now a power trio! The guitarwork, even in the different styles, is still excellent. Angel Rat and The Outer Limits don't feature the screaming vocals of their early work. In fact, the vocals contribute very well to the eery mood and sinister undercurrents. (Still plenty of heavy material on these, tho.) Negatron has returned both to the crunching doom riffs and howling vocals of the early albums. I don't care much for Negatron. The essential ones are Angel Rat, The Outer Limits, and Nothingface. Dan Clore From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Thu Oct 31 14:33:27 1996 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:33:27 -0500 Subject: Voivod Message-ID: On 30-OCT-1996 18:13:40.0 BOC-L said to HERBERT119 >Does anyone else here listen to Voivod? They're a Canadian band, most >of their lyrics revolve around science fiction themes--sometimes >derivative, sometimes pretty clever. They started out as basically a >thrashmetal/deathmetal/speedmetal band, but increasingly used jazz >chords and got into a heavy Pink Floyd influence (including covers of >Astronomy Domine and The Nile Song). Best is probably Angel Rat, with >Nothingface and The Outer Limits as close seconds. Their latest, with >changed lineup, Negatron, is more their original sound, but the CD has >cool multimedia animation on it. >Let me know, >Dan Clore Hey, Dan, I'm into (well, I WAS, don't listen to them much lately) Voivod. Have all their albums except Negatron. They were a very unique and talented band in the thrash metal genre. My faves have always been Killing Technology, Dimension Hatross and Angel Rat. Not much relation to HW or BOC, though, except it may be the closest thrash metal ever came to space rock... Chuck `[1;31;47mRainbow V 1.19.4 for Delphi - Test Drive From stayer at PI.NET Wed Oct 30 18:53:22 1996 From: stayer at PI.NET (Jerry) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:53:22 PST Subject: BOC: Taming Flelepaths Message-ID: Jerry sez: >>According to the FAQ, the musical box sound was taken from, surprise, a >musical box. It originated from Germany, and to this day, no one seems to >know what the piece is called or who wrote it. John: >Hmm... I went back and checked the FAQ 'cuz I don't remember having any >info on the music box in there -- after checking, I found no info on >the music box in the FAQ. However, I do recall Albert posting some info >about the music box, but there's no info in the FAQ on it. Oops. I know I read it somewhere, so I assumed it was the FAQ. Maybe it was a Covert Cult article in MF? Jerry From inhaler at U.WASHINGTON.EDU Thu Oct 31 17:30:00 1996 From: inhaler at U.WASHINGTON.EDU (P Worley) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 14:30:00 -0800 Subject: OFF: Voivod In-Reply-To: <3277E0C7.626F@columbia-center.org> Message-ID: I bought a tape of theirs at a used record store a few years back, "Killing Technology", I think it was. 'Twas a little to thrashy for me. What kind of sounds has their music gone through? -Pete -- Peter William Worley inhaler at u.washington.edu On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Clore wrote: > Does anyone else here listen to Voivod? They're a Canadian band, most [snip] > > Dan Clore > From delacour at UNM.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:44:20 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:44:20 -0700 Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BOLLE In-Reply-To: <961031040744_1382150013@emout11.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BOLLE!!!!!! You have been the focal point for many a heated debates on this list. It's all in good fun, I hope. God bless... Manuel & Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From delacour at UNM.EDU Thu Oct 31 18:53:41 1996 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 16:53:41 -0700 Subject: Where's my F@!%# tape?!?! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hey Theo; O.k., you told me last week you would send me my Worcester '82 tape, if that was all I wanted. I said YES!!! That was the original deal accord- ing to our trade 4 1/2 months ago!!! Where's my tape?? I know, I know; you're going to send it to me for X-mas, right? Please send it ASAP>>> Manuel (had a double latte) Alzaga, Jr. Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK Thu Oct 31 12:43:53 1996 From: jon at COMICS.DEMON.CO.UK (Jon Browne) Date: Thu, 31 Oct 1996 17:43:53 +0000 Subject: More Space Bandits Talk In-Reply-To: <01IB9AZK4ZBO8Y5SW5@delphi.com> Message-ID: In message <01IB9AZK4ZBO8Y5SW5 at delphi.com>, HERBERT119 at delphi.com writes >I can >relate to the part >about getting a job, though... Yeah, me too. Xenon Codex came out in the last year of my beautiful seven years without a job. Maybe thats why "Good Evening" remains one of my fave tracks. In fact, I only started dealing comics to stop welfare hassling me. How was I to know it was going to be sucessful? Damn... the best laid plans of mice and men, eh? -- Jon Browne From Corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET Wed Oct 9 13:44:52 1996 From: Corwyn at GLOBAL2000.NET (Michael S. Habiby) Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:44:52 -0700 Subject: HW: Re Castle version of _Levitation_ Message-ID: Marshall Wrote: > Can anyone tell me if the track "Nuclear Toy" appears on the > Castle Communications version of _Levitation_? I know it's > on the Griffin version, but that is not to be had in my area. > (Anyone seen it in the Boston, Mass. area?) > According to Godwin's book the castle CD doesnt have Nuclear Toy The Griffen does and you should be looking in the cutout racks immediatly Marshall as the Griffin releases are on firesale. I just picked it up for $3.99!! Mike