From ben at ST-CANARD.SPC.EDU Mon Aug 21 21:30:31 1995 From: ben at ST-CANARD.SPC.EDU (Ben Cohen) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 1995 21:30:31 -0400 Subject: This is a test message (ONLY!) Message-ID: Please DO *N*O*T* REPLY to this mail message. This is merely a test to see if the new mailing list processing software is working. [Had this been an actual message, it would have had some content, and you would have received information on what's going on here...] YnSSHM, Ben From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Sat Aug 26 02:15:31 1995 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 02:15:31 -0400 Subject: Age Poll Message-ID: Chuck Rosenberg 22 years on Primary band - At the moment I'm listening to HW more often than BOC, I'm more new to them (discovering them was like finding a treasure trove) Only time seen BOC: Nov 5, '94, Showcase Theatre, Corona, Ca. Brain Surgeons - Haven't been in my neck o' the woods yet (have Eponymous, would have Trepanation if it were available on tape or vinyl) Never seen HW or any HW spinoffs live First BOC album: Cultosaurus Erectus on vinyl for a buck, bought somewhere around late '93 (fellow Moorcock fiction fan had taped me "Black Blade") First Hawkwind album: Space Bandits (bargain-priced tape), bought no more than a year ago Chuck From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Sat Aug 26 02:22:57 1995 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 02:22:57 -0400 Subject: Misheard Lyrics, was Re: ETI Message-ID: Duane, Re: "Radios Appear" Congratulations! You got it right the first time! Chuck From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Sat Aug 26 12:38:03 1995 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 13:38:03 -0300 Subject: HW: UK/Europe: who wants covers tapes? Message-ID: Mail me if you want copies of the HW covers tapes. We hope to fit them all onto 3 C100s (though it's just possible that we may need a fourth). All you have to do now is send me your name & address; when I know how much the tapes and postage together will cost, I'll let you know. Should I send a copy to the band? Dave. From aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU Sat Aug 26 08:44:01 1995 From: aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU (Duane Hoyt) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 08:44:01 -0400 Subject: Favorite live stuff Message-ID: >Which is better and Why? >OYFOOYK >SEE >ETL I pick Feet, cause that was my first live purchase, and was most like what I had seen at that time concert-wise. Duane -- " If you want a friend just feed any animal..." From RJPXR5 at AOL.COM Sat Aug 26 08:43:54 1995 From: RJPXR5 at AOL.COM (RJPXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 08:43:54 -0400 Subject: Age Poll Message-ID: ron jennings (rj) rjpxr5 at aol.com (but maybe soon switching to skarsol at ix.netcom.com) prime:HAWKWIND 1st-ambler cabaret,philadelphia pa,1989 last-masquerade,atlanta ga,1995 fave album - whichever played last. last purchased-live biz,unless you count brock's solo 1st purchased - space ritual home-philadelphia,pa From aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU Sat Aug 26 08:47:23 1995 From: aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU (Duane Hoyt) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 08:47:23 -0400 Subject: Poll Message-ID: Name: Duane Hoyt Handle: Duke E-Mail Address:aa5287 at freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu Primary Band: Started long ago as BOC, but now HW. I have liked both since 1974 First Time Seen Live: BOC: 1975, Ohio River Music Festival, Cincinatti, Oh. HW: 1974, Allen Theatre, Cleveland, Oh. Last time Seen Live: BOC: 1989, Akron Agora HW: 1995, Cleve. Agora Favorite Album: BOC: TaM HW: SR Last Album Purchased: BOC: Imaginos HW: Friday Night Rock Show Sessions Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: Obviously Comments: I took the liberty of answering for both bands, cause I have liked both for so long. I like HW better though. I guess that makes me "bi" doesn't it? ( That's bi-musical for all you wise-acres) Age: 37 First Album: TaM, SR All this talk of first albums, etc., brought a memory to mind that was long buried and I would just like to add it. The first time I heard AoF was when I was in the Navy, and a friend had just gotten the album. I was at his apt. having a going away party, as I shipped out the next morning for 9 months. We had enjoyed many " hand rolled" cigarettes dipped in a peculiar oil I had never seen before, but smelled very much like hashish. As I lay on the floor in a near paralytic state, the part came on right before Revenge of Vera Gemini, you know, where Patti says "You're boned, like a saint..." And I felt as if I was shocked with about 10,000 volts and literally jumped up off the floor. Guess it was a moving experience in the literal sense. Anyway, I guess you had to be there. What was the sad part is that I had to wait 9 months to get back and buy the album. Duane -- " If you want a friend just feed any animal..." From b_pospiech at SHAMROCK.PING.DE Sat Aug 26 05:05:00 1995 From: b_pospiech at SHAMROCK.PING.DE (Bernhard Pospiech) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 08:05:00 -0100 Subject: Age Poll Message-ID: Bernhard Pospiech Age: 35 Primary Band: Hawkwind First Album: Live 79 (bought 1980) First HW show: Bochum, Zeche, Germany, 09.March.1982 Last HW show: Cologne, Live Music Hall, Germany, 13.November.1994 Best HW show: London, H.-Odeon, 16.May.1992 Number of HW-gigs seen: about 20 (18 in Germany and Holland, 2 in England) Favorite period: 1976 and 1989 First LZ show: Dortmund, Germany, 1980 First LZ album: LZ III cu Bernhard b_pospiech at shamrock.ping.de From aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU Sat Aug 26 08:50:09 1995 From: aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU (Duane Hoyt) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 08:50:09 -0400 Subject: Show Review BOC - 10/8/73 Cleveland Ohio Message-ID: In a previous post, Sade says: >already getting regular airplay on Kid Leo's show - _W_hen _M_usic >_M_eant _S_omething ;) so it's surprising the audience was laid Kid Leo ruled, he was the only dj who ever played HW, and that's what got me going on the band. I remember him playing Sonic Attack and let it roll right through Time We Left... They were promoting the upcoming Space Ritual at the Allen. We need more guys like that in radio. Too bad he's in New York now. I always thought that it was _W_eed _M_akes _M_e _S_mile:) >back. Oh wait, 1973 - 'ludes, man. Yeah, maybe that explains it... Remember Rorer's slogan? "Better living through chemistry"! >pushing geezerdom but not too old to dance Save a dance for me, ok? Duane Geezer by age only, not mental state! -- " If you want a friend just feed any animal..." From RJPXR5 at AOL.COM Sat Aug 26 09:21:32 1995 From: RJPXR5 at AOL.COM (RJPXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 09:21:32 -0400 Subject: HW: UK/Europe: who wants ... Message-ID: Queried Daveb- >>>Should I send a copy to the band?<<<< yes!!on the 95 tour a couple of covers were mentioned to brock, and he seemed interested,even flattered. rj From stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM Sat Aug 26 09:29:31 1995 From: stone1 at IX.NETCOM.COM (William Stone) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 06:29:31 -0700 Subject: Age Poll Message-ID: Oy...35+ :( First HW: SR, of course. When it was new. Immediate addiction. First album? God... Snoopy vs the Red Baron, The Royal Guardsmen, 196? Wylie From Norman at FAITH.FTECH.CO.UK Sat Aug 26 13:39:05 1995 From: Norman at FAITH.FTECH.CO.UK (Norman Beresford) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 18:39:05 +0100 Subject: The Face Message-ID: Killing time this afternoon I was reading through a copy of The Face when I came across an article entitled "the new prog rock". Basically it listed a number of the main prog bands from the 70's and their 90's counterparts and listed each bands main qualities. Of course one of the bands mentioned was HW thus this posting. I'll list the bands with their 90's counter parts but I'll only post the descriptions of HW and their counterpart. If anyone wants the other descriptions I'll mail them. Mike OldField Future Sound Of London Pink Floyd The Orb Genesis (Peter Gabriel) Underworld Genesis (post PG) The Shamen Magma Moby HAWKWIND EAT STATIC Rick Wakeman Sven Vath Jethro Tull Banco De Gaia Gong System 7 Hawkwind: "Perennially-touring crusty outfit with cider-swigging, soap-avoiding following. Terrible album covers. Baffling continual success in inverse proportion to genuine talent" Eat Static: "Perennially-touring crusty outfit with cider-swigging, soap-avoiding following. Terrible album covers. Baffling continual success in inverse proportion to genuine talent" Strange that I should be a fan of both bands really (but not of The Face I hasten to add). From khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU Sat Aug 26 15:59:41 1995 From: khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Keith A Henderson) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 15:59:41 -0400 Subject: Age poll In-Reply-To: <303E48E9@houmg001.shl.com> Message-ID: Here's my entry (FWIW): Name: Keith Henderson Age: 31 Handle: Keith H. (to avoid confusion with Keith F.) E-Mail Address: khenders at magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Primary Band: Hawkwind First Time Seen Live: September 24, 1989 -- Toronto, ONT -- Diamond Club Last time Seen Live: April 11, 1995 -- New Haven, CT -- Toad's Place Favorite Album: 'Warrior on the Edge of Time' Last Album Purchased: 'Undisclosed Files Addendum' Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: Yes Comments (please be brief): First HW Album Heard: Quark, Strangeness, and Charm (in 1980) First HW Album Purchased: Space Ritual Alive HW Concerts attended: 15 Other HW-family shows: Tim Blake -- Feb. 2, 1992 -- Cleveland, OH -- Gallery Cafe Nik Turner -- Oct. 2, 1994 -- Columbus, OH -- Stache's Motorhead -- numerous shows (6 or 7?) First BOC Album: Spectres First BOC concert: Spring, 1983? -- State College, PA (w/ Duke Jupiter) Last BOC concert: Mar. 17, 1995 -- Columbus, OH -- Newport BOC concerts attended: 6 Keith H. From sub at ADRIRIS.BIOCHEM.UIOWA.EDU Sat Aug 26 15:58:47 1995 From: sub at ADRIRIS.BIOCHEM.UIOWA.EDU (The Subhuman) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 14:58:47 -0500 Subject: Age Poll In-Reply-To: <793631@BoysTown.ORG> Message-ID: The Subhuman Age: 24 (ooohh....) Band: BOC Last Show: Chicago, 1995 Best and First Show: Albuquerque, 1991 First Album: FoUO (actually, was given to me) Hawk Data: None, but willing to try! ------------------------------------- The Subhuman I am becalmed, lost to nothing Warm weather and holocaust.... Left to die by two good friends Abandoned me and put to sleep Left to die by two good friends Tears of God flow as I bleed Blue Oyster Cult, "The Subhuman" From iscladoc at FALCON.CC.UKANS.EDU Sat Aug 26 17:05:17 1995 From: iscladoc at FALCON.CC.UKANS.EDU (Allan T Grohe Jr) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 16:05:17 -0500 Subject: IMPORTANT! Age Poll = Directory, Format included. In-Reply-To: <303E48E9@houmg001.shl.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 25 Aug 1995, BREVARD Adrian R. wrote: > Name: Allan T. Grohe, Jr. > Handle: N/A > E-Mail Address: iscladoc at falcon.cc.ukans.edu > Primary Band: HW > First Time Seen Live: HW Friday May 10, 1991, Ambler, PA > Last time Seen Live: NW in '94 in Lawrence, KS > Favorite Album: Warrior on the Edge of Time > Last Album Purchased: The White Zone > Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: yes > Comments (please be brief): Favorite HW era: 1971-1977, and with Moorcock Allan. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allan T. Grohe, Jr. Nomad of the Time Streams #159 iscladoc at falcon.cc.ukans.edu Keeper of _The Dead Gods Book_ iscladoc at kuhub.cc.ukans.edu "Farewell, friend. I was a thousand times more evil than thou." - Michael Moorcock, _Stormbringer_ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU Sat Aug 26 17:36:07 1995 From: khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Keith A Henderson) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 17:36:07 -0400 Subject: HW box set Message-ID: Hey, all: I noticed a week ago or so (in a CD store in Mentor, OH), that all 4 of the CD's from the recent box set were available as singles (at around $15 apiece). Were these official Griffin releases, or did they just divide up the box themselves, figuring they wouldn't get $60 or so out of any one person?? Keith H. P.S. If anyone is interested in any of the following recently seen CD bargains speak up....I'm willing to pick any of these up for you (maybe as a trade for something interesting)... Hawkwind -- Space Ritual Alive Double CD (One Way) new -- $14 Quark, Strangeness, and Charm CD (original cover) used -- $9 Night of the Hawk CD (good looking compilation, although nothing that isn't available elsewhere) used -- $7 In Search of Space CD used -- $7 Electric Tepee CD (import, UK) used -- $9 and I think I remember seeing each of these for $10 apiece: Doremi Fasol Latido CD (One Way) new Hall of the Mountain Grill CD (label?) new and (although not particularly a bargain), I've seen several copies of Anubian Lights album for $13 Daevid Allen -- Now is the Happiest Time of Your Life (?) LP -- $5 So, if you're looking for any of these things, I'd be willing to try & pick it/them up for you at cost (price & postage). From irby at HERA.ASTR.UA.EDU Sat Aug 26 17:37:34 1995 From: irby at HERA.ASTR.UA.EDU (Bryan Irby) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 16:37:34 -0500 Subject: Phish (Oysters?) In-Reply-To: <199508262032.QAA28773@listserv.spc.edu> Message-ID: > > I was wondering if anyone on here besides me has ever listened to Phish? You > know, though the music is very different, Phis sometimes reminds me of BOC. > Listen to the song, 'Axilla' on the 'Hoist' album and you'll see what I Yes, I've also been listening to Phish for years now, and just last year had this very similarity pointed out to me by a friend of mine also into Phish and BOC (among other things). He had been listening to 'Cavern' from _Pictures of Nectar_, and really felt it sounded like something from Agents-era BOC, most likely a Bouchard Bros. composition. I'm not sure that I can wholly make the connection, but I am willing to acknowledge a similarity. -Bryan From tox at ISR.HARVARD.EDU Sat Aug 26 20:01:24 1995 From: tox at ISR.HARVARD.EDU (Tox) Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 20:01:24 -0400 Subject: Rejected posting to BOC-L@LISTSERV.SPC.EDU (fwd) Message-ID: Umm, sorry to bother y'all, but could the relevant mighty one fix this? wjh is phasing out isr; must one unsubscribe and resubscribe, or could it be otherwise repaired? ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 19:53:13 -0400 From: L-Soft list server at St. Peter's College, US (1.8b) To: tox at WJH.HARVARD.EDU Subject: Rejected posting to BOC-L at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU You are not authorized to send mail to the BOC-L list from your tox at WJH.HARVARD.EDU account. 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If you need assistance or if you have any question regarding the policy of the BOC-L list, please contact the list owners: BOC-L-Request at LISTSERV.SPC.EDU. ------------------------ Rejected message (26 lines) -------------------------- Received: from wjh.harvard.edu (wjh.harvard.edu [128.103.8.10]) by listserv.spc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA29152 for ; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 19:53:11 -0400 Received: (from tox at localhost) by wjh.harvard.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA10504; Sat, 26 Aug 1995 19:53:57 -0400 Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 19:53:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Tox To: BOC/Hawkwind Discussion List Subject: Re: The Face In-Reply-To: <199508261739.SAA07307 at earth.ftech.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 26 Aug 1995, Norman Beresford wrote: [quoting some impaired creature whose shite he read] > > Hawkwind: "Perennially-touring crusty outfit with cider-swigging, > soap-avoiding following. Terrible album covers. Baffling continual success > in inverse proportion to genuine talent" > Well, considering that their monetary success relative to, say, Michael Jackson or the New Kids on the Block has been negligible, I guess it must truly be "in inverse proportion to genuine talent". -Tox From des at RITZ.MORDOR.COM Sun Aug 27 01:45:50 1995 From: des at RITZ.MORDOR.COM (E F) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 01:45:50 -0400 Subject: Age Poll In-Reply-To: from "The Subhuman" at Aug 26, 95 02:58:47 pm Message-ID: Eric M. Falk (EF) Age 30 Band: BOC Last Show: New Jersey, November 1994 First Show: Asbury Park, NJ 1982 Favorite Album: Imaginos (This Week) des at ritz.mordor.com Used to use Desdinova but this service doesn't allow that many characters. --EF From gt4722a at PRISM.GATECH.EDU Sun Aug 27 02:23:45 1995 From: gt4722a at PRISM.GATECH.EDU (Brian "AGENT GORDON COLE" Atkins) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 02:23:45 -0400 Subject: Age Poll In-Reply-To: <199508270545.BAA15275@ritz.mordor.com> from "E F" at Aug 27, 95 01:45:50 am Message-ID: Age 21 Band: Hawkwind Last Show: Atlanta, July 95 (Nik Turner) First Show: Atlanta, July 95 Favorite Album: Zones :) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Like Blue Velvet,Dune,Twin Peaks,PJ Harvey,The Elric Saga/Hawkwind,Blade -- -- Runner,or Nina Simone??? http://wc62.residence.gatech.edu/coop/home.html -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From SWELTON at ESOC.BITNET Sun Aug 27 12:53:13 1995 From: SWELTON at ESOC.BITNET (Sebastian Welton) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 11:53:13 EST Subject: Age Poll Message-ID: Sebastian Welton Age: 31 Primary Band: Hawkwind First Album: Space Ritual (cost me 50p in a junk shop in England hidden among 10 T.Rex albums and a free copy of a flexidisk of the Faces from the NME. 'Twas a bargain shopping day.) First HW show: The Great Love-in, Roundhouse, London 1977 (or was it '76? Not really a pure H/W show tho.) Last HW show: Klangwerk, Aschaffenburg, Germany, 1994 Best HW show: Hammersmith Odeon, 1984 (although Nikwind comes pretty close. Number of HW-gigs seen: Only about 15. Favorite period: Calvert era and Turner solo. From lansford at VNET.NET Sun Aug 27 05:00:52 1995 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Oyster Girl) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 09:00:52 +0000 Subject: What's in a name, anyway? Message-ID: On 24 Aug 95, ROBERT SEDLER wrote: > Searchin' for Celine- Celine French novelist Louis-Ferdinand Celine. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- It's not what people call you - but what you answer to - that matters. - Barry Saunders -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net From lansford at VNET.NET Sun Aug 27 05:00:53 1995 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Oyster Girl) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 09:00:53 +0000 Subject: Star Clock Message-ID: On 24 Aug 95, David Hardman wrote: > Maybe the Star Clock could refer to something like Stonehenge! > Anyway, what is meant by the *rhyme* of the Star Clock? I think "rhyme" in this sense refers to the rhythmic cycle that underlies rhymed verse rather than the matched sounds themselves. That the Dogon/Sirius connection, like much of the Gods from Outer Space "evidence," has been thoroughly debunked doesn't invalidate any of it as a source/influence for Imaginos. 8) I think we detoured into Antarctic exploration the last time we delved into the Imaginos lyrics because of "The Mountains of Madness," but I now wish I still had my collection of vonDanikinistic books. One, "Not of This World," contained a tale of an Antarctic explorer who claimed to have seen a city admidst the ice. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- It's not what people call you - but what you answer to - that matters. - Barry Saunders -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net From lansford at VNET.NET Sun Aug 27 05:00:51 1995 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Oyster Girl) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 09:00:51 +0000 Subject: ETI (was BOC content) Message-ID: On 23 Aug 95, Joseph Brooks wrote: > Also, I'm sort of an opinionated person and many of the differences > may be chalked up to my thinking that if *I* had written it, it > would be this way.. and maybe thats the way I hear it.. I know the feeling well. > I'd still like to know if its 'Plutonia' or 'Victoria' I heard "Victoria" at first, but finally heard the "p" after some careful listening to the CD. It's amazing how much clearer the lyrics are on CD instead of vinyl. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- It's not what people call you - but what you answer to - that matters. - Barry Saunders -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net From nexus at PANIX.COM Sun Aug 27 10:39:07 1995 From: nexus at PANIX.COM (Jeff Berry) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 10:39:07 -0400 Subject: Hawkwind in the Voice Message-ID: In the Village Voice this week there's an article entitled "Brain Salad Surgery: The Return (Yikes!) of Progressive Rock" Somehere towards the bottom of column one we find: "Sabalon Glitz purvey a space rock of burbling syths and high sc-fi drama a la Hawkwind (whose 'The Forge of Vulcan' they cover with aplomb). Theirs is music for those who secretly found the 'Dr. Who' theme cool, yet who also have a jones for Sonic Youth." Just an FYI. JB nexus at panix.com From chip at PCC.COM Sun Aug 27 11:31:09 1995 From: chip at PCC.COM (Chip Hart) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 11:31:09 -0400 Subject: Brain Surgeons, 8/25/95 Message-ID: Brain Surgeons, Club Toast, 08/25/95 Albert and Deborah just left a few minutes ago and I quickly dashed to my machine to post a review of their show last night when I ran into a problem: do I post the "10-page-no-one-will- believe-what-a-damn-good-time-I-had" version or the "2-page- just-the-facts" version? I guess I'll start with the latter and see how I do. After a little effort (and driving from New York), the band began to assemble in front of the club to unload the gear. Just then, Al and Deb looked up and waved to a group of people I've never seen before. "Hey guys!" It turns out that Carl, Tania, and Scott drove up from Boston just to see the show. Surprise FTF encounters are always fun and, to no surprise, they were each completely pleasant. We all helped unload and witnessed 1/2 a sound check. A scramble for dining arrangements ensued, and the Boston crew went off while we helped settle Ace in for the evening. I had the pleasure of sitting down with David (the BS bassist, for those heathens who don't know) before the show and we had a few beers. Since everything had been very hectic to that point, I got a chance to really find out that everyone in the band is just so friggin' personable. What the hell? I don't think I can assemble 5 of my friends as nice as these guys. The show started about 9:30. I'll leave it up to the Boston crew to provide a complete set-list, but you can be sure the goodies were there (Gimme' Nothin, Time Will Take Care of You, Cities on Flame, etc.). Let's get one thing straight: THE BRAIN SURGEONS ROCK. I'm a little jaded on the club rock scene and really pretty much stopped sacrificing my hearing for the cause a few years ago. But damn, they really sounded GREAT. They truly are a head above any live intimate band I can name right now. The original works comes across so well live, I was amazed. In particular, the new stuff is truly, truly great. "My Civilization" was just fantastic. Ok, to avoid just tossing out superlatives, I'll skip to the highlight: *Death Valley Nights*. According to Albert, it was only the second time it's ever been played live (but no longer). DVN has always been one of my favorite tracks and to hear it, to SEE IT two feet in front of me, was just great, especially given the live changes to it. My only complaints about the show: TOO SHORT and no "Sally". The band really coulda' held the audience for another 1/2 hour easily, and should have gone at least 2-3 more songs. I'd also like to hear "Sally" in there. PURPOSEFUL EDITORIAL HERE: Why the hell hasn't every BOC fan on this list bought "Trepenation"?! With the exception of those of you on a really tight budget, you've got no excuse. This isn't fawning to some famous rock star here...they already left for home! "Trepanation" is really an excellent album and is substantially better than "Eponymous". Live, the band really throws some crunch into the sound. Albert will probably not want to hear this, but "Trepanation" also has a significant "BOC" sound to it. I think it may be because there's a band presence now, but the source is irrelevant. "T'" is easily the best outside-of-BOC performance by any of the band members (including "Flat Out," "Summa Cum Loud," etc.). END EDITORIAL After the show, we had excellent food at a small place I know well. In the morning, we went and visited my parents who have a house which borders a state park. We took a hike up into the woods and enjoyed the view of Lake Champlain and the Adirondacks. And that was that! One thing I won't soon forget: hearing Albert pick up my guitar and play bits from _Imaginos_ or practice "Dr. Music" for an upcoming gig. I hope some of it rubbed off. The entire band was truly delightful and enjoyable from top to bottom and I hope they'll make it back here again soon. And, as I expect the Boston crew to say, IT'S COMPLETELY WORTH THE DRIVE TO SEE THEM. Next time they play Boston, I'm there. Thanks Al + Deb! -- Chip Hart * chip at pcc.com * http://www.pcc.com/~chip People's Computer Company * 800-722-7708/802-872-8177 F:802-872-8214 15 Pinecrest Drive * Essex Junction, VT 05452 From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Sun Aug 27 11:58:05 1995 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 17:58:05 +0200 Subject: Age Poll Message-ID: Name: Johan Edlundh, Stockholm, Sweden Handle: \\joe (Hawkwind Joe on other sites :^) E-Mail Address: hawkjoe at eka.ericsson.se Age 32 (but looks like 42, honest!) Primary Band: HW First Time Seen Live: 91.09.29 in Stockholm, Sweden Last time Seen Live: 94.11.10 in Stockholm, Sweden Favorite Album: ? (Don't like _Early Daze_ and _Live 70/73_) First album heard: _Levitation_ when it was brand new. First Album Purchased: Don't know, but I think it was _Space Ritual_ Last Album Purchased: Got _California Brainstorm_ today. Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: 15 BOC LP, some 12" and 7" Comments: I'm a - 1) kollektor - 2) vinylist - 3) cover hunter From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Sun Aug 27 12:07:48 1995 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 18:07:48 +0200 Subject: HW box set Message-ID: >Hey, all: > >I noticed a week ago or so (in a CD store in Mentor, OH), that all 4 of the >CD's from the recent box set were available as singles (at around $15 apiece). >Were these official Griffin releases, or did they just divide up the box >themselves, figuring they wouldn't get $60 or so out of any one person?? Griffin HomePage says "All four CD's can be purchased seperately from the box set" I believe this split is something they did recently. \\joe From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Sun Aug 27 12:46:41 1995 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 12:46:41 -0400 Subject: Show Review BOC -10/8/73 Cleveland Ohio Message-ID: Is Kid Leo still on? -DF From aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU Sun Aug 27 16:27:14 1995 From: aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU (Duane Hoyt) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 16:27:14 -0400 Subject: Show Review BOC -10/8/73 Cleveland Ohio Message-ID: DF asks: >Is Kid Leo still on? and Duane responds: Last I heard he was in NYC working for a record company ( don't know which one ). He is supposed to be in Cleve. for the Rock Hall o' Fame opening. Duane -- " If you want a friend just feed any animal..." From aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU Sun Aug 27 16:32:11 1995 From: aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU (Duane Hoyt) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 16:32:11 -0400 Subject: Brain Surgeons, 8/25/95 Message-ID: Is BS gonna play Cleveland, or anywhere nearby? Maybe they already did and I missed it. I will be extremely bummed if I did. Duane -- " If you want a friend just feed any animal..." From robert.sedler at NOR.MKL.COM Sun Aug 27 19:10:00 1995 From: robert.sedler at NOR.MKL.COM (ROBERT SEDLER) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 18:10:00 -0500 Subject: Brain Surgeons, 8/25/95 Message-ID: -> One thing I won't soon forget: hearing Albert pick up my -> guitar and play bits from _Imaginos_ or practice "Dr. -> Music" for an upcoming gig. I hope some of it rubbed off. Albert practiced Dr. Music for an upcoming gig? Now I'm not one of those people who hates mirrors and everything on it, but if the BS's do some BOC stuff, shouldn't this song be towards the BOTTOM of the list? There are SO MANY others that Al & the surgeons could pull off better..... Revenge of Vera Gemini Death Valley Nights (as you mentioned) Dominance and Submission Sinful love Wings wetted down ...just to name a few! As for the show, I should have gone. Burlington is one of my favorite cities. I love the feel there. BUT, as Warren once said.... "...The years go by, shoulda done, shoulda done we all cry..." Torgo robert.sedler at nor.mkl.com From chip at PCC.COM Sun Aug 27 21:59:41 1995 From: chip at PCC.COM (Chip Hart) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 21:59:41 -0400 Subject: Brain Surgeons, 8/25/95 (fwd) Message-ID: ROBERT SEDLER: > Albert practiced Dr. Music for an upcoming gig? Now I'm not one of those > people who hates mirrors and everything on it, but if the BS's do some > BOC stuff, shouldn't this song be towards the BOTTOM of the list? For clarification (and Albert can clear this up better), the original backup singer for "Dr. Music" is going to sit in with them, so he thought he'd dust it off for her. It's a Joe song, afterall, I believe. Plus, while "Dr. Music" is not exactly one of my favorite BOC tracks, it does come across live pretty well, especially with a good keyboard/guitar solo. I think Billy is up to the job :-) -- Chip Hart * chip at pcc.com * http://www.pcc.com/~chip People's Computer Company * 800-722-7708/802-872-8177 F:802-872-8214 15 Pinecrest Drive * Essex Junction, VT 05452 From etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE Mon Aug 28 09:09:57 1995 From: etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE (Rob S) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 10:09:57 -0300 Subject: Age Poll Message-ID: Rob Stuckey Age 25 Primary Band: Hawkwind First Concert Seen: Bristol 87 Last Concert Seen: Oxford 94 (or Nik T @ Glastonbury 94) First Album: Levitation (heard on friend's car stereo in '86) Favourite Period: Any gig from the last 6 years Any vinyl from '76 to '83 BOC ALbum: None BOC gig: None. I did have a ticket to see them at the Bristol Colston hall in about '89, but came down with flu so didn't make it. From 100522.44 at COMPUSERVE.COM Mon Aug 28 08:09:12 1995 From: 100522.44 at COMPUSERVE.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:09:12 EDT Subject: New HW-cd. Message-ID: Hi Hawkfriends ! On Saturday I received a fax from Andy Garibaldi of MLM in Stoke. He informed me that there is a new Hawkwind "remix of older tracks" cd on it's way. I'm waiting for more info on that one, sound exciting. Cheers Henrik 100522.44 at compuserve.com From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Mon Aug 28 08:42:43 1995 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:42:43 -0400 Subject: Brain Surgeons, 8/25/95 Message-ID: Chip reviews the Brain Surgeons' gig in VT: Oh, do I wish I was there! As expected, sounds like a good time was had by all. But, hopefully the Surgeons will be back in Boston soon, and I'll get to run into Carl, Tania, Scott, and now Chip when they play here. I second Chip's comments on getting the Brain Surgeons' music -- two excellent albums that no one should be without! Sorry to hear they didn't play "Sally" - they did in Boston last month and it rocks live. But, you did get to hear "Death Valley Nights", which was their planned encore in Boston (had the club let them do one, or had the rest of the locals screamed louder). I don't think it's so bad to say that *Trepanation* has a certain "BOC" sound to it. But, I think perhaps that may not be quite correct - perhaps by listening to *Trepanation*, you can see how much BOC was driven by his talent. Also, there are a few songs on *Trepanation* that were co-authored by some other BOC contributors (H. Wheels, P. Smith, R. Meltzer), and a few ("Sally" being one, and I think "If U Come Close"?) were written back in the 70's. It's cool that you got to chat with the band as much as you did. I'm envious, but having got to spend a little bit of time with them when they were in Boston, I know what you mean about them all being really nice. Dave Hirschberg even gave me a few bass-playing tips (and I can use all the help I can get). To all of BOC-L: Buy the Brain Surgeons' CDs - you won't be disappointed! To The Brain Surgeons: Keep touring (nearer to Boston would be cool, but I might have to convince my wife we need a vacation in New York some time), and do longer sets if you can get the clubs to let you! John From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Mon Aug 28 13:44:53 1995 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 13:44:53 BST Subject: Age Poll In-Reply-To: Rob S's message of Mon, 28 Aug 1995 10:09:57 -0300 Message-ID: Dave Berry Age 34 Primary Band: Hawkwind First seen: Hawklords tour, Bristol Last seen: London 1993 First album: (Probably) Hall Of The Mountain Grill Favourite periods: Calvert era, 1988 -> 1993 Nikwind gig: None First ICU gig: Camden Roundhouse (or possibly Bristol Tiffany's) Last ICU gig: 1983 National CND demo in London (I think) BOC album: Fire of Unknown Origin BOC gig: None. BS: Not yet, though I intend to get myself Trepanated. From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Mon Aug 28 12:46:13 1995 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 13:46:13 -0300 Subject: Sospan Fach In-Reply-To: Alun Hughes's message of Tue, 15 Aug 1995 09:45:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: > Andy has insisted that I post this to the list, despite my concern > that I might get my head bitten off for being off-topic ... You could always suggest that it's your entry for the mythical HW lyric project :-) Dave. From cjohnson at SUR1A.HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Mon Aug 28 10:12:37 1995 From: cjohnson at SUR1A.HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 09:12:37 -0500 Subject: FYI: Porcupine Tree on US label, + diffs Message-ID: Looks like Porcupine Tree has finally signed their US distribution contract, with C & S Records. "The Sky Moves Sideways" is being released in the you-ess in a slightly different configuration, along with a different version of the you-kay "Moonloop" CD-single called "Stars Die". There is a brief comparison between the original UK and the new US releases for both of these in the latest issue of Gibralter V5-21, which I highly recommend for important tips on new space/prog bands. Info on subscribing is included in the excerpt below. If you picked up a copy of Bob Lennon's Hawk-US #3, in the Brock interview Dave mentions that Porcupine Tree had been sending him tapes, trying to stir up interest in a joint tour. Based on Jill's recent tip, sounds like Baron Brock took the 'Tree up on it! 8-> Captain Cloud cjohnson at ccmail.sur1a.hpsc.hisd.harris.com (((below is the Gibralter excerpt, without permission!))) Gibraltar V5 #21 20 August 1995 << The Electronic Magazine For Progressive Rock And Related Music >> ============================================================================= Gibraltar: gib at mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu (subscribe, submissions, unsubscribe) 6101 Tullis Dr. #76, New Orleans, LA 70131 (Send material for review to this address.) ------------------------------ From: ptlk at netcom.com (The Lighthouse Keeper) Subject: The Porcupine Variations Date: 9 August 1995 I just got the new 'domestically released' versions of "Moonloop" and "The Sky Moves Sideways". There are many differences one might be interested in knowing about. Sky Moves Sideways (Delerium) Sky Moves Sideways (C & S Records) - -------------------------- --------------------------------- 1. Sky Moves Sideways Phase 1 (18:37) The Sky Moves Sideways - Phase 1 1. The Colour Of Air (4:39) 2. I Find That I'm Not There(3:47) 3. Wire The Drum (6:18) 4. Spiral Circus (3:56) 2. Dislocated Day (5:24) 5. Stars Die (5:01) 3. Moon Touches Your Shoulder (5:40) 6. Moonloop (Edit) (8:11) 4. Prepare Yourself (1:34) 7. Dislocated Day (5:24) 5. Moonloop (17:04) 8. Moon Touches Your Shoulder (5:51) 6. Sky Moves Sideways Phase 2 (16:46) The Sky Moves Sideways - Phase 2 9. Is...Not (12:01) 10. Off The Map (4:43) Moonloop EP (Delerium) Stars Die EP (C & S Records) - -------------------- --------------------------- 1. Stars Die (4:57) 1. Stars Die (4:57) 2. Moonloop (18:03) 2. Moonloop (18:03) 3. Always Never (7:02) Summary - US Album has the main track indexed into six parts (nice) - US Album with a different track order (maybe flows a little better) - US Album missing "Prepare Yourself" (bummer) - US Album has slightly different mix of "Stars Die" (ho hum) - US Album features significantly edited "Moonloop" (too bad, but edit good) - US EP same as UK, but features extra track from "Up The Downstair" There you have it! Peter ------------------------------ From abrevard at SHL.COM Mon Aug 28 11:18:00 1995 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD Adrian R.) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:18:00 PDT Subject: IMPORTANT! DIrectory Status Message-ID: Was flooded this morning with responses to Directory/age poll request. Thanks very much to those who have responded so far. There appear to be a few others who have not responded yet. The formats used were fairly consistent and there have been subsequnt request to add additional information, most notably region/location of list memebers. I will be contacting people directly to clarify or gather additional information. One other thing though, under the field Primary band we are looking for either HW or BOC in this area. Some people have namded their favotrite band (can you believe some people like other bands more than HW or BOC 8>)) The info we are looking for is which of the two bands (BOC or HW) drew you to this listing. Its ok to list a favorite other than these two (use comments field for this) but want an indicator as to which band draws more people to the list. Should have a good working product by the end of the week. Thanks AB From abrevard at SHL.COM Mon Aug 28 11:45:00 1995 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD Adrian R.) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:45:00 PDT Subject: The Face Message-ID: >Hawkwind: "Perennially-touring crusty outfit with cider-swigging, >soap-avoiding following. Terrible album covers. Baffling continual success >in inverse proportion to genuine talent" >Eat Static: "Perennially-touring crusty outfit with cider-swigging, >soap-avoiding following. Terrible album covers. Baffling continual success >in inverse proportion to genuine talent" >Strange that I should be a fan of both bands really (but not of The Face I >hasten to add). Whoa! Thats a rather brutal assessment. Sounds like the Face could serve only as a life saver should you inadvertently run out of Charmin or White Cloud bathroom paper. AB From abrevard at SHL.COM Mon Aug 28 11:45:00 1995 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD Adrian R.) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 08:45:00 PDT Subject: Phish (Oysters?)-even Kicks & Pilots Message-ID: > > I was wondering if anyone on here besides me has ever listened to Phish? You > know, though the music is very different, Phis sometimes reminds me of BOC. > Listen to the song, 'Axilla' on the 'Hoist' album and you'll see what I >Yes, I've also been listening to Phish for years now, and just last year >had this very similarity pointed out to me by a friend of mine also into >Phish and BOC (among other things). He had been listening to 'Cavern' >from _Pictures of Nectar_, and really felt it sounded like something >from Agents-era BOC, most likely a Bouchard Bros. composition. I'm not >sure that I can wholly make the connection, but I am willing to acknowledge >a similarity. >-Bryan Well I can nominate two bands that bring BOC to mind for me but I am about the only person I know who thinks so. Saigon Kick comes closest. Do they sound anything like BOC, Hell no at least their music dosen't but the lyrics, thats where they get you. Check out some of their lyrics and you may see it too. Peppermint Tribe and God of 42nd Street are pretty good examples. The other group I can think of is the notorious, no one but me seems to like, Stone Temple Pilots. Songs from Core and the song Unglued remind me of real early BOC. Its hard to explain but when I listen to certain songs and close my eyes all I can see is Eyes, and Buck and Alan.... AB From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Mon Aug 28 10:43:28 1995 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 10:43:28 -0400 Subject: Brain Surgeons, 8/25/95 Message-ID: There's actually a very good reason why Dr Music was being rehearsed...but it's a surprise... you have to wait til CBGB's Sept 15 to find out... From 100522.44 at COMPUSERVE.COM Mon Aug 28 11:51:13 1995 From: 100522.44 at COMPUSERVE.COM (Henrik Hallgren) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 11:51:13 EDT Subject: Age poll Message-ID: Henrik Hallgren E-mail 100522.44 at compuserve.com Age: 36 (already grey hair, unfortunately). Primary band: Hawkwind plus relations. First album: Hall of the mountain grill. Last album purchased: Strange trips... First HW-show: Barowiak, Uppsala Sweden 30/9-91. Last HW-show: Gino. Stockholm Sweden 10/11-94. First encounter: 1974, quite a long time ! Favorite period: 1969 -1995 (so far) :-)) Best Lineup: Current. Worst lineup: 80's( Nik turner comeback ). Cheers Henrik From vlegrand at POSTOFFICE.PTD.NET Mon Aug 28 12:38:10 1995 From: vlegrand at POSTOFFICE.PTD.NET (Vince LeGrand) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:38:10 -0400 Subject: Delta Wave is ready for business! Message-ID: >He also told me about a cool band called Brain Ticket, from Germany, who >are supposedly rilly cool. Does anybody here know about them? > > I have an LP called Celestial Ocean by Brainticket from 1972. I got it while going through my phase in the early 70's when I bought every European electronic rock album I could afford. I must say I haven't listened to it in 20 years...so, I can't comment on the quality of the music. Perhaps I should dust off my turntable and give it a listen... From vlegrand at POSTOFFICE.PTD.NET Mon Aug 28 12:46:02 1995 From: vlegrand at POSTOFFICE.PTD.NET (Vince LeGrand) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 12:46:02 -0400 Subject: Age Poll Message-ID: Vince LeGrand Age: 41 Primary Band: Hawkwind First Album: In Search of Space First HW show: Boston, MA (1999 Party tour with Man) Last HW show: Bottom Line, NYC (early 80's?) First BOC album: Blue Oyster Cult First BOC show: Schaefer Music Festival, Central Park, NYC (1973) Last BOC show: Academy of Music, NYC on New Years Eve 73/74 (also on that bill was Kiss, Teen Age Lust, and Iggy and the Stooges) From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Mon Aug 28 13:39:10 1995 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 13:39:10 -0400 Subject: Ageing pollsters - An HW gig story Message-ID: >Hey Martyn, I think this was my first HW gig too (definitely Oxford not too >sure on the year, could have been 82. hey it was a long time ago...) > >Was this the tour where they had the bank of TV screens at the back, and Nik > was wearing the long, long dreadlock wig ? hmmm. I don't think so. It was a long time ago and I was very wasted. I think Nik was sporting his red moptop. It was a very good concert. Nik waved two lanterns in front of his face to great psychedelic effect. The highlights for me were moonglum and Dragons and Fables. The air was thick with smoke :-). Is it true that they have clamped down on this at the Appolo now? >Cheers, >Steve L. Cheers Martyn From ceres at SIRIUS.COM Mon Aug 28 13:44:52 1995 From: ceres at SIRIUS.COM (Ceres Records) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 10:44:52 -0700 Subject: PROMO: HW tribute album Message-ID: Hello, sorry to waste bandwidth with a commercial consideration, but I know that a few people here might be interested in this ... Now available: _Assassins of Silence / Hundred-Watt Violence_ double LP - a vinyl-only tribute to the greatest space rock band of all time (heck, make that the greatest rock&roll band of all time, period). Over 115 minutes of music. Limited-edition deluxe package with fold-out poster sleeve (17"x35") & booklet. 23 bands from the US, Sweden & New Zealand, including F/i, ST37 & Sabalon Glitz, who have previously opened for Hawkwind and/or NikWind. All tracks previously unreleased except Lithium X-Mas "Magnu", Sabalon Glitz "Forge of Vulcan" & The Humpers "Motorhead". None of the other tracks will appear on the HW covers tape which will soon be circulating among boc-l members (although some of the songs on the tape I sent were recorded for this album but had to be omitted due to timing considerations). Disclaimer: some of these recordings could be considered "punk", "lo-fi", or even (yuck) "alternative". Consider yourself warned if you have an aversion to bands formed since the mid-70s. For track listing, price & ordering information, or other questions, email: Ceres Records ceres at sirius.com From stephen at SYSTEM9.UNISYS.COM Mon Aug 28 15:03:54 1995 From: stephen at SYSTEM9.UNISYS.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 15:03:54 -0400 Subject: Ageing pollsters - An HW gig story Message-ID: Continuing to reminesce: >> >Hey Martyn, I think this was my first HW gig too (definitely Oxford not too > >sure on the year, could have been 82. hey it was a long time ago...) > > > >Was this the tour where they had the bank of TV screens at the back, and Nik > > was wearing the long, long dreadlock wig ? > > hmmm. I don't think so. It was a long time ago and I was > very wasted. hmm didn't get home and find your afghan only had one sleeve did you ?? 8-) > I think Nik was sporting his red moptop. It was a very > good concert. Nik waved two lanterns in front of his face to > great psychedelic effect. The highlights for me were moonglum and Dragons > and Fables. The air was thick with smoke :-). Is it true that > they have clamped down on this at the Appolo now? Dunno about the smoking I was in Oxford visitig a friend, so thats my one & only visit to the Apollo. Anyway this does clarify thjat we're not talking about the same gig, which means I think from Bernards gig list that I must have been thinking 1982. Can anybody else confirm this ? Which year was the tour with the big bank of TV screens at the back ? I particularly remember some wierd effects on the screens during GHost Dance. Overall I thought HW were very far ahead of their time with this partiuclar setup, I mean when did U2 do ZooTV ? ten years later ? Other recollections, well Nik had his psychedelic painted sax with the light inside it, I think they had two "robot dancers" ..... Ahh memories.. Cheers, Steve L. From abrevard at SHL.COM Mon Aug 28 16:21:00 1995 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD Adrian R.) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 13:21:00 PDT Subject: Brain Surgeons and ITS comming Message-ID: I decided to do a little thinking about the Brain Surgeons doing some BOC covers. I see some good and bad in doing covers. First the good: 1. BS can play anything and have a lot of talent so whatever BOC songs they play will sound pretty good. 2. The Surgeons will likely play covers of Al and Joe led songs which represent some of the best BOC music ever. 3. From above, we will get to hear songs that BOC has never really played with any consistency if at all live. Now the Bad: 1. Any BOC cover probably subtracts a Surgeon original, is that worth it? 2. For casual BOC fans who catch the Surgeons unaware of the old connections, do the Surgeons get lumped into "one of those bands without enough original material so they do covers" groups? 3. If the Surgeons are allowed longer sets (seems to be the one complaint I've heard so far) wouldn't it be better to do more from Trep or Epo as opposed to BOC songs? The setlist is the property of Al, Deb and the band but I would prefer to see them play longer sets of Surgeon material than to sacrafice a song for a BOC cover. I'm sure they can do any of them well but this is a brand new band. Finally whats comming? Something no BOC fan on this list would ever believe, a possible set list of mindless songs which could be performed by Eyes and the band, no covers included (well not really). Watch for it or name your own. A(intriguing one)B From abrevard at SHL.COM Mon Aug 28 17:27:00 1995 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD Adrian R.) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 14:27:00 PDT Subject: BOC in Boston 10/16/76 Message-ID: And now with the concert review here's Bart Braggart with his latest review, Bart Thanks Tim (yawn) not quite with it this morning that show ran rather late. Good morning listeners this is Bart Braggart with my I'm only a rock and roll reviewer since they don't let me spin the wax here review of Boston's latest rock concert. Last night was amazing as I saw a group called The Amazing Blue Oyster Cult.... Uh Bart, Yes Tim, Says here the name is Blue Oyster Cult not The Amazing Blue Oyster Cult. Really Tim? Really Bart, you should pay more attention at these shows, its what we pay you for afterall. Hey I was paying attention I can tell you every song they played. Now shut up Tim I only have three minutes you know. Ok Bart. Thanks. Now back to the concert, as I said before the Amazing Blue Oyster Cult, and if thats not their name maybe it should be. Boston fans beware these guys are better than are homegrown superstars Aerosmith. Oh c'mon Bart you can't say things like that over the air. Yes I can Tim when its the truth. This band gives new meaning to the words Rock and Roll, you better roll when they rock or they'll knock you down. This band has been around a couple of years now, actually these geezers played a little during the 60's under some different names Soft White something or other and Forest Stalkers or something like that. But thats the only thing you can knock this band for, silly names and a lot of them. Nevertheless their lienup has been together consistently and they play well together. Most of the songs came from their first three albums but they played a few from their latest, which by the way I didn't play before going to the concert like the station manager wanted me too. Pssst played it last night four times couldn't get enough of it. Whats the name. Barts the name. Not you moron, the name of the album. Agents of Fortune Tim. Anyway these guys come out singing about stars and stairways and autographing casts on peoples arms. Didn't understand all the symbolism but I was sure moving my feet. This five piece collection of musical talent is somewhat quirky though, I mean the place is as dark as a cave and the lead singers wearing shades, maybe he was blinded by the lead guitarist in the loud white leisure suit, guy must shop at the same store as my uncle Lou. Dammit Bart can you tell us about the concert or what? Gee Tim go have a baby or somethinbg it'll be easier on your nerves, Is that coffee in that cup? Can I ahve some. Heck with him fans BOC as I call them cause their name is too long ran through their set at warp speed with everything and I mean everything sounding very good. I mean these guys can play it loud, mellow or in-between. I only got one complaint though, where the hell did they come up with some of those lyrics? I mean what the hell is an ME 262, thought I heard something about Hitler in there but I couldn't be sure. The song sure is one fast paced monster rocker though. I likes that one and lets see hard to tell with my notes on this pair of pink laced underwear, not sure where I got them from my girl wasn't wearing any, ok, ok here it is, Flaming Telepaths a really cool song though I can't figure why the guy with the shades and my girl kept kept pointing at me during the chorus. Let me tell you a little about the musicians though, the drummer was incredible he and the guitar player in the white suit both had solos on this song called Bucks Boogie. Man can these guys tear it up, I coulda listen to them play for another ten minutes easily. Right after this the bass player, who happens to be the drummers brother lit into his own solo on a song Called This Ain't the Summer of Love. Man that bass player must lift a lot of weights, he had some big guns and his bass carries some big ass... Don't say that over the air ok Bart. Yeah, Yeah, but it did you know thump thump thump the kinda bass you can feel as well as hear. Well the last song they played, and mark my words on this one, is gonna be a big hit, its called Don't Fear the Reaper and its sung by the guy in the leisure suit. Awsome awesome song man we gotta get a copy for the station to play before someone beats us to it. Yep these guys are gonna be real big real soon. Great stage precsence and cool music. You know Tim these guys don't really remind me of anybody currently out there playing. They don't Bart? Naw, I mean their music is scary like Sabbaths, more fun than Kiss and really appeals to standard Rock & roll funny bones like Aerosmith and Zep, but for some reason they are very dfifferent from all of those guys I just can't place em. Well until tomorrow when I should have a review of a band called Triumph, Triumph? does this say Triumph Tim. Yep that what it says Bart. Who the hell are they? There a three peice band from Canada, Toronto I think. You gatta be kidding me? What do they play with hockey sticks there ain't no rock and roll going on in Canada, c'mon. Uh Bart, remember the concert you did last week about Rush, well they are from Canada. They Are? Yes they are. Gee when did those guys ever learn how to play rock and roll music. I won't be around for Triumph anyway. Why not Bart? I gotta find my girl. It just dawned on me why she and the lead singer were pointing fingers at me when he kept singing the jokes on you. Why what do you remember. I remember where I got these pink undies from, he threw them at me. Where are those guys playing next. According to this New York City, there home town. Well I'm packing my bags and going down to see them again. Going to look for your girl? Nah just want to see that guy in the leisure suit and the drummer do that solo thing again. This is Bart Braggart siging off. From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Mon Aug 28 16:22:23 1995 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 22:22:23 +0200 Subject: PROMO: HW tribute album Message-ID: >Now available: _Assassins of Silence / Hundred-Watt Violence_ double LP - > a vinyl-only tribute to the greatest space rock band of all time > (heck, make that the greatest rock&roll band of all time, period). > Over 115 minutes of music. Hey Doug, congratulations! >Limited-edition deluxe package with fold-out poster sleeve (17"x35") & booklet. How many is there in this ltd edition? >23 bands from the US, Sweden & New Zealand, including F/i, ST37 & Sabalon > Glitz, who have previously opened for Hawkwind and/or NikWind. >All tracks previously unreleased except Lithium X-Mas "Magnu", Sabalon Glitz > "Forge of Vulcan" & The Humpers "Motorhead". >None of the other tracks will appear on the HW covers tape which will soon be > circulating among boc-l members (although some of the songs on the > tape I sent were recorded for this album but had to be omitted due to > timing considerations). > >Disclaimer: some of these recordings could be considered "punk", "lo-fi", > or even (yuck) "alternative". Consider yourself warned if you > have an aversion to bands formed since the mid-70s. > >For track listing, price & ordering information, or other questions, email: OK. Track listing? Price? (i've checked with some friends and there might be some interest in this item, I'll add - if you want to, havent bought it yet but it's still there - the white stain 7") Ordering information? Any possibility to get it signed? :^) >Ceres Records >ceres at sirius.com \\joe From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Mon Aug 28 16:29:08 1995 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 16:29:08 -0400 Subject: Brain Surgeons and ITS comming Message-ID: Adrian writes: The setlist is the property of Al, Deb and the band but I would prefer to see them play longer sets of Surgeon material than to sacrafice a song for a BOC cover. I'm sure they can do any of them well but this is a brand new band. Just wanted to point out the Brain Surgeons are VERY focussed on doing new music. Don't let 1 or 2 "blasts from the past" fool you. When I saw them play last November, they played 2 old songs - the rest was stuff from *Eponymous*. When they played last month, again their were 2 "golden oldies" (although "Death Valley Nights" was a planned encore that wasn't played), along with 3 songs from *Eponymous* and 4 from the at-the-time- unreleased *Trepanation*. This to me, in lieu of longer or multiple sets, is a pretty good compromise. Obviously, a talented group with as much material as the Surgeons have must make some choices - but I think they've done well there. I like the new stuff tremendously, but I also like hearing the band pay some tribute to its roots (hey, those songs were great when Albert was in BOC, so their still great songs that Albert should play out of BOC). John From abrevard at SHL.COM Mon Aug 28 18:18:00 1995 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD Adrian R.) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 15:18:00 PDT Subject: Posting For Captain Cloud Message-ID: Tried mailing directly to Capt. Cloud but re eived mail failure notification, therefore I am posting to the list: Dear Captian Cloud: Welcome back. What we are trying to do is create a directory of all suscribers. The type of info we are looking for is Age, which band attracted you to the list BOC or HW, e-mail address, handle etc., It started when someone suggested an age poll to see if the list was dominated by geezers or the acne crew, (Well not really). The idea sought of snowballed to a listing of common information about each other. Below is the template if you can fill it out and send it back to me you will be included in the directory. This is a volunatry action and list memebers are not required to do it, so far though the responses have been outstanding. FORMAT - Name: Handle: (other than real name used to sign posts) E-Mail Address: Primary Band: (This should be HW or BOC love the Surgeons and NW but the title is BOC/HW) First Time Seen Live: Last time Seen Live: Favorite Album: Last Album Purchased: Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: (HW fans do you know about BOC etc, lets make it yes or no for this field) Comments (please be brief): Location: (Where do you live) Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! AB From chip at PCC.COM Mon Aug 28 16:49:39 1995 From: chip at PCC.COM (Chip Hart) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 16:49:39 -0400 Subject: Age Poll Message-ID: What the heck. Name: Chip Hart Handle: - E-Mail Address: chip at pcc.com Primary Band: BOC First Time Seen Live: Feb. 12, 1986, Burlington, VT Last time Seen Live: Well, the Brain Surgeons-8/25/95 Favorite Album: Spectres Last Album Purchased: _Trepanation_, or _Cult Classics_ if that doesn't count Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: Sure am. Comments (please be brief): Location: (Where do you live): Vermont, USA -- Chip Hart * chip at pcc.com * http://www.pcc.com/~chip People's Computer Company * 800-722-7708/802-872-8177 F:802-872-8214 15 Pinecrest Drive * Essex Junction, VT 05452 From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Mon Aug 28 16:51:14 1995 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 16:51:14 -0400 Subject: UPDATE on FAQ -- NEXT WEEK! Message-ID: O.K., I've modified my system to send messages to the new server, so this is a good time to try this out. Wanted to let everyone know that I will be sending the FAQ (Version 2.0) to the list (in 7 parts) NEXT WEEK. My plan is to do it on Tuesday, September 5th (day after Labor Day). So . . . 1. Be prepared to receive some 200K of data next Tuesday - hopefully all on the same day. 2. As previously mentioned, anyone who expressed interest in proofreading the FAQ -- if you find any errors, please let me know so they can be included in version 2.1 (which will be out later this fall). 3. Comments are always welcome, and greatly appreciated. I will be in the office next week to ensure that everything gets sent o.k. (and I'll try to handle requests to resend it to individuals if there are problems), BUT - I will be out of the office from the 9th until the 25th (day before *Workshop Of The Telescopes* is released?), so if you think I'm ignoring you, you may be right - but I'll be ignoring everyone as I'll be on a much-needed vacation (and, it's my 5-year wedding anniversary). But I'll be back on the 25th to take your calls :-) 4. Those of you with web pages, feel free to advertise the new version, and post it once it's here, or in the archives -- note that the 7 parts will be sent here, but a complete 1-part version will be available in the BOC-L archives. It is my preference that the FAQ is put as 1 file in the BOC-related web pages to minimize the possiblility of only portions of the FAQ floating around. However, if you do post the FAQ in pieces on your web page, please ensure that the disclaimer notice that I send out on each piece (that basically tells folks that the FAQ is in multiple sections and should only be distributed as one entity) is included. 5. Also, along with the FAQ, I will be sending the lyrics to the Brain Surgeons' *Trepanation* to the archives. Al and Deb have once again graciously allowed me to re-produce the liner notes for BOC-L. Thanks! I've probably forgotten something, but I'll think of it later, and forget to tell you about it then. ;-) John PS: Oh yeah, I remembered something -- does anyone who has been on the web know if the following URL has been removed? http://wired.uvm.edu/~hybrid/boc.html I used to be able to access it (it was always "under construction"), but not anymore. Has anyone accessed it in the last few days? From abrevard at SHL.COM Mon Aug 28 18:43:00 1995 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD Adrian R.) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 15:43:00 PDT Subject: Brain Surgeons and ITS comming Message-ID: >Adrian writes: >The setlist is the property of Al, Deb and the band but I would prefer to >see them play longer sets of Surgeon material than to sacrafice a song for a >BOC cover. I'm sure they can do any of them well but this is a brand new >band. >Just wanted to point out the Brain Surgeons are VERY focussed on doing >new music. Don't let 1 or 2 "blasts from the past" fool you. When I >saw them play last November, they played 2 old songs - the rest was stuff >from *Eponymous*. When they played last month, again their were 2 "golden >oldies" (although "Death Valley Nights" was a planned encore that wasn't >played), along with 3 songs from *Eponymous* and 4 from the at-the-time- >unreleased *Trepanation*. This to me, in lieu of longer or multiple >sets, is a pretty good compromise. Obviously, a talented group with as >much material as the Surgeons have must make some choices - but I think >they've done well there. I like the new stuff tremendously, but I also >like hearing the band pay some tribute to its roots (hey, those songs >were great when Albert was in BOC, so their still great songs that Albert >should play out of BOC). >John Thanks J but on average how long have the Surgeons sets been? I've been digging at Al and Deb for an ultra long show if they can ever make it close enough for me to see them. While I'm sure in a club rocking with sounds it wouldn't make much difference what they played, just thinking about it I would prefer to here as many originals as time would permit. AB PS Al and Deb stay tuned making a new booking contact for you to exploit, hopefully in the next couple of days I can put you in touch with someone else from this area. From khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU Mon Aug 28 17:49:19 1995 From: khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Keith A Henderson) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 17:49:19 -0400 Subject: Age poll In-Reply-To: <30424455@houmg001.shl.com> from "BREVARD Adrian R." at Aug 28, 95 03:18:00 pm Message-ID: Hey, AB: I don't know if you noticed this, but in this "age poll" template, you've neglected to put in a place to enter your age. Ironic, isn't it??? Keith H. > > FORMAT - > Name: > Handle: (other than real name used to sign posts) > E-Mail Address: > Primary Band: (This should be HW or BOC love the Surgeons and NW but the > title is BOC/HW) > First Time Seen Live: > Last time Seen Live: > Favorite Album: > Last Album Purchased: > Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: (HW fans do you know about BOC etc, > lets make it yes or no for this field) > Comments (please be brief): > Location: (Where do you live) > > AB > From khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU Mon Aug 28 18:14:30 1995 From: khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Keith A Henderson) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 18:14:30 -0400 Subject: HW immortalized in Peru Message-ID: Hey, all: Just thought I'd relate something interesting I saw while I was in the more remote regions of South America..... As we were waiting to go into the nearby mountains (the Cordillera Blanca, specifically), we spent some time in the large town (perhaps 60,000 I think) of Huaraz, Peru in the Rio Santa Valley (aka "Callejon de Huaylas"). It serves (among other things) as the main center of activity for incoming and outgoing mountain climbers and trekkers....so there tend to be a fair number of Europeans around (typically from the Alpine regions....Germany, Switzerland, Italy, France), and some Americans as well. Especially at this time of year, the dry season, when climbing is much more safe. Anyway, on a particular plaster wall along one of the downtown shops in Huaraz is a very large mural, with a pop/rock theme to it. My suspicion is that it was painted in 1987 by a German-born tourist/immigrant, because of the following: The overall design was quite colorful and futuristic-looking, and with "sci-fi" type lettering. At the very top was something like: 1960's: The Beatles, Rolling Stones Underneath was something like: 1970's: Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, etc. etc. etc. Followed, of course, by: 1980's: The Police, Talking Heads, etc. etc. etc. and then by: 1987: (list of a zillion mostly terrible bands, that happened to be popular then) (this is why I think it was painted then....why else 1987??) and finally near the bottom: 2019: (list of a zillion mostly brilliant bands that have never been widely popular, including among many others, Hawkwind (!), National Health, Hatfield and the North, and many of the electronic groups from Germany, like Can, Kraftwerk, etc.) (I don't remember if BOC was part of the mural anywhere (but they may have been one of the "70's" bands, I'm not sure)). Obviously, the point the artist was trying to make was that 30-odd years or so from now, these groups (who were so far ahead of their time), would finally become recognized and the inspiration for music of that future era. It would have been pretty cool to have seen this piece of art anywhere, but it was quite amazing to have seen it in one of the more remote places I've been in the world (although not anywhere near the *most* remote place). Of course, I doubt if a single Hawkwind album exists within the borders of Peru, except maybe for a couple of imports owned by a handful of European immigrants. I certainly didn't hear any music even remotely similar to HW there. Keith H. From p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU Mon Aug 28 20:09:14 1995 From: p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU (Peter Sondergeld) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 10:09:14 +1000 Subject: Age Poll Message-ID: Name: Peter Sondergeld Handle: E-Mail Address: p.sondergeld at qut.edu.au Age: 31 Primary Band: BOC First Time Seen Live: Being geographically challenged, never :-( Last time Seen Live: Favorite Album: BOC First album heard: AoF First Album Purchased: AoF Last Album Purchased: Imaginos Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: No Comments: ************************** Peter Sondergeld p.sondergeld at qut.edu.au From rbwelch at NETCOM.COM Tue Aug 29 01:27:28 1995 From: rbwelch at NETCOM.COM (Robert B. Welch) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 1995 22:27:28 -0700 Subject: Age Poll Message-ID: Name : Robert Welch E-Mail Address: rbwelch at netcom.com Primary Band: I joined the list because I love them both. BOC Section: First Time Seen Live: 1974 or '75 in Des Moines Last Time Seen Live: Oct. 1994 in San Francisco Number of times seen: 5 Favorite Album: Oh, my. Probably ST. First Album Purchased: ST Last Album Purchased: Imaginos Hawkwind Section: First Time Seen Live: April 25, 1995 in San Francisco Last Time Seen Live: same as above Favorite Album: (at the moment): Palace Springs First Album Purchased: Space Ritual (from a cutout bin in 1975(?)) Last Album Purchased: Space Bandits Comments: BOC has been a continuing interest over the years. Hawkwind was big for me till '76 (since then I didn't buy any new stuff, but kept playing the stuff I had), and interest was strongly rekindled when I came upon the BOC-l list. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "Show me your portfolio! Lie to me about your family!" Cmdr. Ivanova, Babylon 5, having "sex". rbwelch at netcom.com From he360 at CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU Tue Aug 29 02:46:11 1995 From: he360 at CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU (Witch Doktressa Tba) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 02:46:11 -0400 Subject: don't breathe on my guitar Message-ID: > Anyway I'm still recovering from the light show at the Derby Bike Fest.. > I mean were there or were there not 2 revolving bedspreads projected on > each side of the stage? is this like Nik's revolving pillowcase effect? :) later realized i forgot Lurking Girl, but then would we know if she went away? (hi Tori - i know yr out there!) ObCD: nothing, my CD drive is acting up :( :( :( sade -- Mistress ov thee Salmon Salt *** he360 at cleveland.freenet.edu I wish i could stop | Take back - What I paid & turn back the clock - at - for another motherf&%ker & make it all happen 4 U - ) in a motorcade.. From he360 at CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU Tue Aug 29 02:55:53 1995 From: he360 at CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU (Witch Doktressa Tba) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 02:55:53 -0400 Subject: Show Review BOC -10/8/73 Cleveland Ohio Message-ID: > Is that line, slam or disco dancing sade? line dancing! me?? :P i think not, pal. disco - hey i said i was a geezer, i done it (break out the poppers!) slam - done that too, tho my bones is gettin kinda fragile for such truck. Nope these days it's either the confused-goth-attempting-to-unscrew-a-lightbulb dance (http://www.elec.qmw.ac.uk/~matthew/goth/tab1.0/tab.html if you must have details ;) or else hipswayin' to tha dirty blues Laughing Hyenas style - yum. Doesn't anybody have results from our previous age poll? i know i'm not in the top 5 most elderly here (as i was at the goth convention) being a mere 36. i guess i joined for HW, tho i was a BOC fan back when - no clue when i bought my first BOC or even which - one ov the first 3, sometime circa 1975-76. Didn't buy a HW CD til 1990, but only coz my ex- had The Collexion and i didn't need any. Happy now? sade -- Mistress ov thee Salmon Salt *** he360 at cleveland.freenet.edu I wish i could stop | Take back - What I paid & turn back the clock - at - for another motherf&%ker & make it all happen 4 U - ) in a motorcade.. From HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM Tue Aug 29 03:06:11 1995 From: HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM (HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 03:06:11 -0400 Subject: BOC: 9\4\95, Santa Ana Message-ID: I don't think there's too many people in the So Cal area who might make it to the show at the Galaxy, in Santa Ana? I'm thinking about going, but the tix are a little high for me ($18.50 at the door, 22-23 bucks from Ticketbastard). If some BOC-Lers would show up, that would be more incentive... Chuck From D.C.Chilton at BHAM.AC.UK Tue Aug 29 04:30:12 1995 From: D.C.Chilton at BHAM.AC.UK (Derrick Chilton) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:30:12 +0100 Subject: Age Poll Message-ID: Derrick C Chilton Wolverhampton (UK) Age 28 Primary Band: Hawkwind First seen: Chronicle of the Black Sword Tour Last seen: Wolverhampton 1994 First album: Hall of the Mountain Grill Favourite periods: Space Ritual/Xenon Codex/Chronicle eras BOC album: None as yet BOC gig: None. Others : Uriah Heep, Sabbath, Dio, Manowar etc... --------------------------------------------- E.Mail D.C.Chilton at bham.ac.uk Talk Waylander at 147.188.64.112 "Sunrise Wrong Side of Another Day..." Kilminster. --------------------------------------------- From etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE Tue Aug 29 09:41:26 1995 From: etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE (Rob S) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:41:26 BST Subject: Ageing pollsters - An HW gig story Message-ID: > > and Fables. The air was thick with smoke :-). Is it true that > > they have clamped down on this at the Appolo now? > > Dunno about the smoking I was in Oxford visitig a friend, so thats my one & only > visit to the Apollo. > Well, anyone who hears FOFP's recording of the Oxford '94 gig will hear me being chastised by a not very pleasant young lady for smoking. She even insisted that I put the thing out in a cup she was carrying......COW!! bye - Rob From Olivier_Boigey at TECHLINK.FR Tue Aug 29 07:19:04 1995 From: Olivier_Boigey at TECHLINK.FR (Olivier Boigey) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 11:19:04 GMT Subject: Posting For Captain Cloud Message-ID: Age: 30 Name:olivier Boigey Handle: E-Mail Address:o.boigey at techlink.fr Primary Band:Hawkwind & relatives First Time Seen Live:Paris - Elyse Monmartre-1993 Last time Seen Live:Ris Orangis-Le Plan-1994 Favorite Album:This is HW do not panic Last Album Purchased:White Zone Are You Familiar with the Other Band?:More or less Comments:What does mean handle in this input form? Location: France --- OffRoad 1.0 unregistered From grant_c%wglim1.DNET at SB.COM Tue Aug 29 07:19:33 1995 From: grant_c%wglim1.DNET at SB.COM (CHARLES THE GRINNING BOY) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 07:19:33 -0400 Subject: Age Poll Message-ID: Well here goes - *including age* Age: 38 Name: Charlie Grant Handle: Charles the Grinning Boy E-Mail Address: grant_c%wglim1.dnet at sb.com Primary Band: BOC First Time Seen Live: 23rd November 1975 Last time Seen Live: 15th March 1989 (8th time) Favorite Album: Secret Treaties Last Album Purchased: On Flame With Rock and Roll (just to complete the set!) Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: Yes (up to approx 1977) Location: Worthing, West Sussex (UK) Comments: I want to see them again!!!! I have seen HW several times, first time July 26, 1972 and have a few albums up to Roadhawks. It has been mooted here before about setting up a directory, I'm really pleased it is coming off this time. .......Charlie. From sop04afw at GOLD.AC.UK Tue Aug 29 08:24:19 1995 From: sop04afw at GOLD.AC.UK (yuri gagarin) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:24:19 +0100 Subject: age prole Message-ID: name (irl): andrew fergus wilson (ak): yuri gagarin (and variations) age: 25 primo band0: hawkwind primo lp: (eponymous) or 'hall of the mountain grill' (cant remember) first live experience: glastonbury '90 last live exp: brixton '92 (? i think) most recntly poorchased lp: out & intake fave line-up: well any really - not too fussy boc awareness: low boc lp: aof (once had first & etl but they became differently situated) area: south london (se5: camberwell) but soon derby (erk! i gout a jobe) comments: MAD JUNGLE SOUNDS AT CARNIVAL YESTERDAY!! SKYLINE SOUND SYSTEM: NUFF CRAZINESS!!! From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Aug 29 08:43:25 1995 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 08:43:25 -0400 Subject: Morning Final #12 Out Message-ID: Whoa! Got home to find MF12 in my mailbox. Cool picture of the "Soft White Underbelly" on the cover (Les Braunstein in center, Albert and Buck on opposite sides - and 2 other guys (I assume Andy Winters and Jeff Latham or maybe Jeff Richards - one of those guys wouldn't be Allen, would it?). Anyways, the reason for this cover photo is that there's an article (part 1 anyway) of stories from Les Braunstein (some of which Jean Lansford had previously posted here from AOL). Some of the new info on the band (new bass player, acoustic numbers, Sony release) that we've discussed here was in there -- and BOC-L was listed in there as a 'net location to find BOC stuff (although they made a slight mistake on the address, listing bo From bstewart at INTERSERV.COM Tue Aug 29 08:46:54 1995 From: bstewart at INTERSERV.COM (bstewart at INTERSERV.COM) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 05:46:54 PDT Subject: Age Poll Message-ID: age; 41 1st hw gig: 1973 Academy of Music NYC last gig: Toads Place New Haven CT USA 1995 best album: SR best era: all no. of gigs seen: about 20 last album purchased: wz regards Bill Stewart From HELLERS at A1.MGH.HARVARD.EDU Tue Aug 29 09:57:00 1995 From: HELLERS at A1.MGH.HARVARD.EDU (Scott Heller (617) 724-7762) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 08:57:00 -0500 Subject: age poll Message-ID: Name: Scott Heller Age: 32 Primary band: Hawkwind FIrst HW show: San Francisco 10/89 Last HW show: New Haven Ct 4/95 Number of times seen: 5 First BOC show: 3/93 San Francisco Last BOC show: Providence RI 1/95 First HW lp: Chronicle of the Black Sword First BOC lp: Onyour Feet or on Yoru Knees Home: Somerville, MA Ocupation: Research Fellow in Medicine, Harvard Med School (Did not count the BS (2) or Nikwind (2) shows. Fave HW lp: Warrior Fave BOClp: On your Feet or On your Knees From HELLERS at A1.MGH.HARVARD.EDU Tue Aug 29 09:59:00 1995 From: HELLERS at A1.MGH.HARVARD.EDU (Scott Heller (617) 724-7762) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 08:59:00 -0500 Subject: BS in Vermont Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 16:08:00 EST Subject: BS in Burlington Sender: "Scott Heller (617) 724-7762" To: boc-l at spcvxa.spc.edu MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting-date: Sun, 27 Aug 1995 16:09:00 EST Importance: normal A1-type: MAIL Brain Surgeons Set List-Club Toast, Burlington VT 8/25/95 Name your Monster Medusa (sounded great live, very good drive to tthis one) My Civilization' Gimmie Nothin' Language of Love Death Valley Nights I Play the Drums Cities on Flame (1000 guitars) Red and the Black Time will take care of You Set time 45m.. I was really blow away. They were great. The first time we saw them, Billy was not there and he really added a lot to the sound to have two guitars and he did most of the solos as well. The whole band are really down to earth care a lot for their fans. The man who did the art work for both lps wa even at the show. Al told us a great story about Devil's Nail (ie. The Vigil). It was worth the drive. And Gov't Mule blew me away as well..... phew what a night, did not arrive back into boston until 6 am with the sun rising in our tired eyes..... Scott PS. J.Swartz.. send me some mail hellers at a1.mgh.harvard.edu P.S. I tried to just answer to Chip's post and mine got sent back with a nasty note from the listserv computer...... From bpalace!jbrooks at CONNECTNET1.CONNECTNET.COM Tue Aug 29 09:55:14 1995 From: bpalace!jbrooks at CONNECTNET1.CONNECTNET.COM (Joseph Brooks) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 05:55:14 -0800 Subject: Brain Surgeons, 8/25/95 Message-ID: On Sat 2-Jan-1904 9:36a, albert bouchard wrote: ab> On Sun, 27 Aug 1995 Duane Hoyt wrote: ab> > Is BS gonna play Cleveland, or anywhere nearby? Maybe they already ab> > did and I missed it. I will be extremely bummed if I did. ab> We have yet to play any gigs more than 7 hrs. from NYC. When we get more ab> established we'll do more gigs farther away from home but until then we'll ab> make more records. Well, let us know when you make it out San Diego/S. Ca. way... ||\ * Ask me for my PGP Key! "San Diego's ||< * Brokedown Palace! 619-596-1974/7419 Original |_||/ * jbrooks at bpalace.com Grateful BBS" From bpalace!jbrooks at CONNECTNET1.CONNECTNET.COM Tue Aug 29 09:58:50 1995 From: bpalace!jbrooks at CONNECTNET1.CONNECTNET.COM (Joseph Brooks) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 05:58:50 -0800 Subject: BOC: 9\4\95, Santa Ana Message-ID: On Tue 29-Aug-1995 3:06a, HERBERT119 wrote: H> I don't think there's too many people in the So Cal area who H> might make it to the show at the Galaxy, in Santa Ana? I'm H> thinking about going, but the tix are a little high for me H> ($18.50 at the door, 22-23 bucks from Ticketbastard). If some H> BOC-Lers would show up, that would be more incentive... I'm thinking about driving up from Sa Diego... But I'm a bit broke and am driving up on 5/2 for the HORDE fest. Depends on cash flow and whether or not they do an SD show... I wish someone would post more tour info on here. ||\ * Ask me for my PGP Key! "San Diego's ||< * Brokedown Palace! 619-596-1974/7419 Original |_||/ * jbrooks at bpalace.com Grateful BBS" From abrevard at SHL.COM Tue Aug 29 11:02:00 1995 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD Adrian R.) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 08:02:00 PDT Subject: Brain Surgeons, 8/25/95 Message-ID: On Sun, 27 Aug 1995 Duane Hoyt wrote: > Is BS gonna play Cleveland, or anywhere nearby? Maybe they already > did and I missed it. I will be extremely bummed if I did. >We have yet to play any gigs more than 7 hrs. from NYC. When we get more >established we'll do more gigs farther away from home but until then we'll >make more records. >Al Hmmmm. lets see, New York City to Baltimore/Washington corridore by car took me 5-6 hours I think... Hey Al does Baltimore fit into the 7 hour drive time limit? AB From abrevard at SHL.COM Tue Aug 29 11:02:00 1995 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD Adrian R.) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 08:02:00 PDT Subject: BOC in Boston 10/16/76 Message-ID: On Mon, 28 Aug 1995 Adrian wrote: > And now with the concert review here's Bart Braggart with his > latest review, Bart ............highly entertaining stuff deleted to save space............ > Nah just want to see that guy in the leisure suit and the drummer do > that solo thing again. This is Bart Braggart siging off. > Actually that show was reviewed in the Globe and the reviewer said >something like, Reaper is an amazing song and these guys have been doing their >heavy rock thing for years but I can tell it's a one shot and they'll never >have another hit. > Glad I got to stick around long enough to prove him wrong! >Al Maybe the guy was a part timer either that or he paid as much attention to the show as Bart Braggart. Cheers AB From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Tue Aug 29 09:37:33 1995 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:37:33 -0400 Subject: Age Poll Message-ID: >Derrick C Chilton >Wolverhampton (UK) Hi! I grew up in Brierley Hill. I saw my first gig at Wolverhampton civic (Deep Purple Burn tour in @'73). I bought my first Hawkwind album in Dudley. Small world Cheers Martyn From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Tue Aug 29 09:40:10 1995 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:40:10 -0400 Subject: Ageing pollsters - An HW gig story Message-ID: > Well, anyone who hears FOFP's recording of the Oxford '94 gig > will hear me being chastised by a not very pleasant young lady > for smoking. She even insisted that I put the thing out in a > cup she was carrying......COW!! > >bye - Rob In fact, now that you mention it, I think it was FOFP who mentioned the restrictions on smoking when he posted about this gig. Martyn From grant_c%wglim1.DNET at SB.COM Tue Aug 29 09:47:13 1995 From: grant_c%wglim1.DNET at SB.COM (CHARLES THE GRINNING BOY) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 09:47:13 -0400 Subject: Age Poll Message-ID: Most people are posting their information here, this is great because we all get a chance to see it before any directory is compiled. Are Al and Deb going to post their details here? What was Deb's first (if any) BOC gig? How old is Albert (oldest person on boc-l?)? Watch this space....... .......Charlie. From sonique at AARDVARK.APANA.ORG.AU Tue Aug 29 20:08:39 1995 From: sonique at AARDVARK.APANA.ORG.AU (Paul Ward) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 00:08:39 +0000 Subject: Age Poll In-Reply-To: <9508291347.AA08860@phinet.sb.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Aug 1995, CHARLES THE GRINNING BOY wrote: > Most people are posting their information here, this is great > because we all get a chance to see it before any directory is > compiled. Damn! I was well behaved and mailed my reply direct! I'll post it again for everyone elses sake ..... Paul -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at aardvark.apana.org.au //// '~ ( --- they http://aardvark.apana.org.au/~sonique/my.html /////// : ; --- Fly! From sonique at AARDVARK.APANA.ORG.AU Tue Aug 29 20:13:10 1995 From: sonique at AARDVARK.APANA.ORG.AU (Paul Ward) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 00:13:10 +0000 Subject: Age Poll In-Reply-To: <30424455@houmg001.shl.com> Message-ID: > Name: Paul Ward > Handle: Assassin Sonique' > E-Mail Address: sonique at aardvark.apana.org.au > Primary Band: Hawkwind > First Time Seen Live: Never (Doh!) My raft's not finished yet! > Last time Seen Live: Doh! > Favorite Album: SR or Palace Springs (today) > Last Album Purchased: Stasis > Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: Nup > Comments (please be brief): Been into the Hawks since '79 when I heard 'Robot' .... life has never since been the same! > Location: Melbourne Australia -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at aardvark.apana.org.au //// '~ ( --- they http://aardvark.apana.org.au/~sonique/my.html /////// : ; --- Fly! From sonique at AARDVARK.APANA.ORG.AU Tue Aug 29 20:15:40 1995 From: sonique at AARDVARK.APANA.ORG.AU (Paul Ward) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 00:15:40 +0000 Subject: HW: Near Topic! Message-ID: Sorta HW related (via Lemmy): I just (yesterday) listened to a new CD by 'Foil' ... the 'Ace of Spades' EP. Not a bad cover! Interstingly, the other track is 'High Rise' - but it's got nothing at all to do with HW! Paul -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at aardvark.apana.org.au //// '~ ( --- they http://aardvark.apana.org.au/~sonique/my.html /////// : ; --- Fly! From sonique at AARDVARK.APANA.ORG.AU Tue Aug 29 20:17:13 1995 From: sonique at AARDVARK.APANA.ORG.AU (Paul Ward) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 00:17:13 +0000 Subject: Age Poll Addendum In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Paul Ward wrote: > > Name: Paul Ward Age: 29 in a fortnight ... and allready going grey. Yikes! -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at aardvark.apana.org.au //// '~ ( --- they http://aardvark.apana.org.au/~sonique/my.html /////// : ; --- Fly! From sonique at AARDVARK.APANA.ORG.AU Tue Aug 29 20:19:16 1995 From: sonique at AARDVARK.APANA.ORG.AU (Paul Ward) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 00:19:16 +0000 Subject: HW: CD catalog #'s anyone? Message-ID: Hiya All, Can anyone tell me the catalog number for the 'Warrior' CD ...either the Dojo or Griffin release? I really should order it while I still can, coz I'm not likely to just stumble across it. While you're at it, what about Brock's "Strange Trips and Pipe Dreams" ? Paul -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at aardvark.apana.org.au //// '~ ( --- they http://aardvark.apana.org.au/~sonique/my.html /////// : ; --- Fly! From abrevard at SHL.COM Tue Aug 29 11:59:00 1995 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD Adrian R.) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 08:59:00 PDT Subject: Age Poll Message-ID: >Most people are posting their information here, this is great >because we all get a chance to see it before any directory is >compiled. >Are Al and Deb going to post their details here? >What was Deb's first (if any) BOC gig? >How old is Albert (oldest person on boc-l?)? >Watch this space....... >.......Charlie. Ah yes Al & Deb haven't recieved your vitals yet. AB From etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE Tue Aug 29 14:39:42 1995 From: etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE (Rob S) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 15:39:42 -0300 Subject: Brock's Pipe Dreams Message-ID: Can anyone tell me if the Brock album ST&PD is any good? I've seen it in HMV for 13 pounds 50, which is a rip-off price...is it worth it? bye - Rob From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Aug 29 11:08:47 1995 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 11:08:47 -0400 Subject: Morning Final #12 Out Message-ID: Sorry 'bout that - our corporate system crashed while I was generating my message, and apparently the fragment got sent out. Here's what I was trying to say: Whoa! Got home to find MF12 in my mailbox. Cool picture of the "Soft White Underbelly" on the cover (Les Braunstein in center, Albert and Buck on opposite sides - and 2 other guys (I assume Andy Winters and Jeff Latham or maybe Jeff Richards - one of those guys wouldn't be Allen, would it?). Anyways, the reason for this cover photo is that there's an article (part 1 anyway) of stories from Les Braunstein (some of which Jean Lansford had previously posted here from AOL). Some of the new info on the band (new bass player, acoustic numbers, Sony release) that we've discussed here was in there -- and BOC-L was listed in there as a 'net location to find BOC stuff (although they made a slight mistake on the address, listing boc-request at spcvxa.spc.edu as boc-request&spcvxa.spc. edu, but hopefully that won't throw too many folks off). Kudos to BOC-L memeber Bryan Irby for providing info on the Buck Dharma trading card - his name was mentioned in MF. There's a great review on *Trepanation*, and then I turn the page and . . . what's this? Recent concert review of The Brain Surgeons and BOC by yours truly! I was floored! I mean, Melne asked if she could use the reviews I posted here in some form for MF, but I didn't know she was going to use almost the whole thing, not to mention putting my "name in lights". I was very flattered, and only hope I did the bands justice in my review (my audience was BOC-L, and not MF readers). Anyway, there's a few other goodies in there, including discussion of some of the meanings of songs on *Secret Treaties* - now I've got to make a few more updates to the FAQ . . . Unfortunately, MF#12 made no mention about the planned compilation of MF's 1-10, which Bolle and Melne have said will happen. I'm gonna have to ask them about that, as I don't have any of those, and definitely need them in my BOC "library". John From RJPXR5 at AOL.COM Tue Aug 29 11:27:59 1995 From: RJPXR5 at AOL.COM (RJPXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 11:27:59 -0400 Subject: HW: CD catalog #'s anyone? Message-ID: Paul asked>>Can anyone tell me the catalog number for the 'Warrior' CD ...either theDojo or Griffin release? While you're at it, what about Brock's "Strange Trips and Pipe Dreams" ?<< brock- ebsscd116 woteot- 55421 3931-2 (griffin) rj From RJPXR5 at AOL.COM Tue Aug 29 11:28:01 1995 From: RJPXR5 at AOL.COM (RJPXR5 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 11:28:01 -0400 Subject: Brock's Pipe Dreams Message-ID: >>> Message-ID: Damon C. Capehart Richardson, TX (a suburb of Dallas, you figure) Age: I'll be 22 on Sept 12! :) Primary Band: Hawkwind First/Last seen: Never (the assholes despise Texas. Funny... NikWind, the Ozrics, and every other prog band known to mankind absolutely *love* Texas. WHAT'S THE FREAKIN' DEAL?!?) First album: HotMG (on a whim, after Nikshow #1) Most Recent Purchase: Quark single (accidentally by mail, I thought I was getting a non-box-set Griffin release) Fave Albums: Warrior, *Live* Chronicles BOC albums: nun BOC live: nun Other Bands/Artists: Art of Noise, Banco de Gaia, Belew, *Bjork, Bowie, Cars, *Chicago, Phil Collins, *Dead Can Dance, Eat Static, Earth To Infinity, ELP, Eno, Fripp, P. Gabriel, *Genesis, Gong, *Steve Hillage, Jam & Spoon, *Jethro Tull, *King Crimson, Marillion, Sarah McLachlan, Moody Blues, the Orb, W.Orbit, Orbital, *Ozrics, Alan Parsons Project, Pink Floyd, Pressurehed, Queen, Rush, Saga, Seal, Soft Machine, Stone Roses, *Supertramp, *David Sylvian, Talking Heads, *Tangerine Dream, *Tears For Fears, This Mortal Coil, *Nik Turner, *Van der Graaf Generator, *Vangelis, Rick Wakeman, Roger Waters, *Yes. * = faves in particular Damon Capehart | "I miss you, but I haven't met you yet." -- Bjork dcapehar at utdallas.edu From HELLERS at A1.MGH.HARVARD.EDU Tue Aug 29 13:39:00 1995 From: HELLERS at A1.MGH.HARVARD.EDU (Scott Heller (617) 724-7762) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 12:39:00 -0500 Subject: US ALien Release Message-ID: I sent some e-mail to Robert Godwin and he said that they were waiting on the master tapes from Doug Smith to get the new HW stuff released in the US. He hopes it will not take much longer than when the UK release comes out. Scott From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Tue Aug 29 13:55:53 1995 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:55:53 -0400 Subject: BOC reference to "Deadline" Message-ID: Albert adds: > Deadline- Phil(King- dead ex-booking agent also mentoned in Hot Rails "The King did not know..."), David (BOC roommate who first found out and had to look at the morgue photos) I have the following entry in the FAQ: The song "Deadline" is rumored to be based on the true story of an old band member or acquaintance, who was murdered by the Mafia. The UK music paper "Sounds" made mention (probably in the late 60s) that the original singer with BOC was shot in the head in a gambling incident. While it is not sure who this may refer to, Les Braunstein reports he doesn't know anything about it. Hmm...sounds like these two items go together, but Al, can you verify? Was Phil King murdered (by the mafia, or someone else), and why? This sounds like a real interesting story (or just rumors blown way out of proportion). John From bchina at CROWN.NET Tue Aug 29 16:35:07 1995 From: bchina at CROWN.NET (bchina at CROWN.NET) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 13:35:07 -0700 Subject: HW CD sound quality Message-ID: So, has anyone else noticed that the sound quality of the CDs put out by One Way seems to be fairly poor? Particularly the first album and Doremi Fasol Latido. I've heard that a label called Repertoire has issued the first album (and perhaps others) and the sound quality is VASTLY improved. Does anyone know the scoop about this? Where can I get Repertoire CDs? --bchina at crown.net John Majka From TheQuail at CTHULHU.MICROSERVE.COM Tue Aug 29 16:06:40 1995 From: TheQuail at CTHULHU.MICROSERVE.COM (The Great Quail) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 20:06:40 GMT Subject: Useless poll response of the Great Quail Message-ID: >Name: Allen B. Ruch >Handle: The Great Quail >E-Mail Address: TheQuail at cthulhu.microserve.com >Primary Band: Hawkwind >First Time Seen Live: Only a few years ago - Ambler Cafe in Philadelphia >Last time Seen Live: Last tour in New York City at the Limelight >Favorite Album: All time? Well that would be either David Bowie's "Scary Monsters" or Rush's "Hemispheres." My favorite HW album is "Quark, Strangeness and Charm." >Last Album Purchased: Robyn Hitchcock's "The Kershew Sessions;" last HW album was dave brock's "Strange Trips" >Are You Familiar with the Other Band? Yes >Comments (please be brief): Aluminum foil over your head really does not work, give it up, we know. . . . >Location: (Where do you live) Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, which is right between Gettysburg and Three Mile Island! ---------------------------------+-------------------------------- The Great Quail | TheQuail at cthulhu.microserve.com riverrun Discordian Society | AOL: LordArioch c/o Allen Ruch | Sarnath - The Quailspace Web Page: 315 Second Street | http://www.microserve.com/~thequail Enola, PA 17025 | ** What is FEGMANIA? ** "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents." -- H.P. Lovecraft From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Tue Aug 29 16:08:53 1995 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 16:08:53 -0400 Subject: Brain Surgeons, 8/25/95 Message-ID: In a message dated 95-08-27 11:35:12 EDT, Chip Hart writes: > Why the hell hasn't every BOC fan on this list bought > "Trepenation"?! With the exception of those of you on a really > tight budget, you've got no excuse. This isn't fawning to some > famous rock star here...they already left for home! > "Trepanation" is really an excellent album and is substantially > better than "Eponymous". Live, the band really throws some > crunch into the sound. I have bought it. I just haven't received it yet... (HELLO!!! Al/Deb...Anyone home? Is my copy lost in the mail? Hasn't been mailed yet?) R. DAMN! Now I have a headache. Where's my drill? I think I'll relieve a little pressure... From Rocker22 at AOL.COM Tue Aug 29 16:08:57 1995 From: Rocker22 at AOL.COM (Rocker22 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 16:08:57 -0400 Subject: Poll Message-ID: My $0.02. Name: - H. Ric Hedges Handle: (other than real name used to sign posts) - None E-Mail Address: - Rocker22 at aol.com Primary Band: (This should be HW or BOC love the Surgeons and NW but the title is BOC/HW) - BOC First Time Seen Live: - 1976 (?) Last time Seen Live: - 1995 Favorite Album: - Cultosaurus Erectus First Album Heard: - BOC right after it was released. Last Album Purchased: - Both BS CD's (although they're taking the "allow 6 weeks for delivery" seriously! (Otherwise, Cult Classics, although in 30 days, I would say "Workshop Of The Telescopes") Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: (HW fans do you know about BOC etc, lets make it yes or no for this field) - Only what I've read here. Comments (please be brief): - I automatically delete HW posts without reading them. Location: (Where do you live) - Tulsa, OK R. Oh, yeah, age 43. From DFrost8547 at AOL.COM Tue Aug 29 16:56:17 1995 From: DFrost8547 at AOL.COM (DFrost8547 at AOL.COM) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 16:56:17 -0400 Subject: Brain Surgeons, 8/25/95 Message-ID: Right now, all orders are mailed out within a week of receipt. Was your check cashed? Have you changed address? There have been very few problems, even with the state of the U.S. mail, and those that have arisen have generally had to do with checks not arriving on our end, or being incorrectly written, or people moving. Are you Richard Worth in real life? If so, your order was sent three weeks ago-- actually before we got the corrected check. Maybe I have you mixed up with someone else. Please forgive me and refresh my memory. But the main thing is that we want everyone to receive what they ordered. As we've said before, we can't be responsible for cash sent through the mail. But if there's anyone else who's sent an order and hasn't received it, and has the cancelled check or money order receipt to document their claim, we will certainly make good on it right away. And I'm truly sorry for any inconvenience. We want all of our customers to be satisfied! So please send your info ASAP! -DF From canders at WJH.HARVARD.EDU Tue Aug 29 17:11:15 1995 From: canders at WJH.HARVARD.EDU (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 17:11:15 -0400 Subject: Phish (oysters?) Message-ID: >> I was wondering if anyone on here besides me has ever listened to Phish? You >> know, though the music is very different, Phis sometimes reminds me of BOC. >> Listen to the song, 'Axilla' on the 'Hoist' album and you'll see what I >> mean... > > I have been listening to Phish for years. > Still... never thought of a similarity. What do you mean? For what it's worth, I've a relatively old (at this point) Phish tape on which during the vocal jam outro on "You Enjoy Myself" they begin improvising with the word "Godzilla" precisely in the manner employed in the middle of the BOC song. Come to think of it, that's one of the little things that got me into BOC, since I listened to Phish for years before I got into BOC. I can't remember the date of the show that tape is from, but I could dig it out of my closet if anyone really wanted to know .... Does that count as a BOC cover ;) A partial cover? ;) Cheers, Carl From aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU Tue Aug 29 17:19:37 1995 From: aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU (Duane Hoyt) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 17:19:37 -0400 Subject: Brain Surgeons, 8/25/95 Message-ID: I have recently been listening to more HW than BOC/BS stuff, and have been spending my cash on space rock. Due to the overwhelming responses in favor of Trapenation, I would like to check it out. Is it too late to order? If not how do I go about doing that. It would be nice to hear some NEW stuff along the BOC style. Duane -- " If you want a friend just feed any animal..." From emphyrio at CIX.COMPULINK.CO.UK Tue Aug 29 22:42:00 1995 From: emphyrio at CIX.COMPULINK.CO.UK (Andrew Gilham) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 22:42:00 BST-1 Subject: Brock's Pipe Dreams Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9508291439.AA03656 at etlxd20c> > Can anyone tell me if the Brock album ST&PD is any good? Well, you've probably already got three tracks off it ("White Zone", "Pipe Dreams", and "Death of War" (remixed as "Bosnia")). I think they're the best three tracks. Most of the rest is similar to _White Zone_, except "Space", which is a re-arranged "Space is Deep" with acoustic guitar and whooshy synths. I didn't go a whole bundle on it myself. - Andy From cjohnson at SUR1A.HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM Tue Aug 29 20:01:25 1995 From: cjohnson at SUR1A.HPSC.HISD.HARRIS.COM (cjohnson) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 19:01:25 -0500 Subject: Age Poll (with age) Message-ID: Name: Chuck Johnson Handle: Captain Cloud E-Mail Address: cjohnson at ccmail.sur1a.hpsc.hisd.harris.com Age: 30 Primary Band: HW First Time Seen Live: Atlanta 1995 Last time Seen Live: same Favorite Album: Warrior on the Edge of Time First Album Purchased: Space Ritual Last Album Purchased: Anubian Lights "The Eternal Sky" Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: yes Comments: Space Rock is being reborn, 20 years after HW invented it. Location: Central Florida I have been collecting HW for 10 years. Have 30+LPs, 70+CDs, 150+tapes, 30+VHS, many booklets/pamphlets/Hawkfans etc. Also a big collector of Pink Floyd (250+tapes). Huge fan of all music; will go without eating in order to buy a new CD that I "read a good review of". From gman at INETCOM.NET Tue Aug 29 20:33:51 1995 From: gman at INETCOM.NET (gman at INETCOM.NET) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 20:33:51 -0400 Subject: CHOP (BOC) Message-ID: I don't know how hard it is to get but I just saw the CHOP 7" at a Delaware shop for 6 bux. Now I finally know why you BOC freaks kept bringing up Mike Watt (I was in it for the Wind). What I didn't know is that Dez Cadena was in the band, too. I have all the DC3 stuff...who coincidentally do Hawkwind. That would have been a great trivia question for the list: What ex Black Flag member covered both Hawkwind and BOC. I've unsubscribed, so if any one wants me to try to pick it up, write gman at inetcom.net It has "I aint no lamb"/"beautiful as foot", you get the idea... gman From bpalace!jbrooks at CONNECTNET1.CONNECTNET.COM Tue Aug 29 20:23:06 1995 From: bpalace!jbrooks at CONNECTNET1.CONNECTNET.COM (Joseph Brooks) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 16:23:06 -0800 Subject: Phish (Oysters?) Message-ID: On Sat 26-Aug-1995 1:55a, Paul De Gasta wrote: PG> I have been listening to Phish for years. PG> I have no clue what you're talking. PG> They're actually from my school, as a matter of fact. PG> My band played its first gig in same place phish played theirs. PG> Don't we feel special? PG> Still... never thought of a similarity. What do you mean? On some of their more rock oriented songs, mostly just the studio stuff, they remind me of BOC, lyricly, vocally and musicly. If you have the "Hoist" CD, listen to the song "Axilla" and I think you'll see what I mean. For the most part, the two bands couldn't be more disimilar but every once in a while... Then again, maybe I'm just wierd... ||\ * Ask me for my PGP Key! "San Diego's ||< * Brokedown Palace! 619-596-1974/7419 Original |_||/ * jbrooks at bpalace.com Grateful BBS" From bpalace!jbrooks at CONNECTNET1.CONNECTNET.COM Tue Aug 29 20:34:05 1995 From: bpalace!jbrooks at CONNECTNET1.CONNECTNET.COM (Joseph Brooks) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 16:34:05 -0800 Subject: ETI (was BOC content) Message-ID: On Sun 27-Aug-1995 9:00a, Oyster Girl wrote: OG> I heard "Victoria" at first, but finally heard the "p" after some OG> careful listening to the CD. It's amazing how much clearer the OG> lyrics are on CD instead of vinyl. I'm beginning to come to your way of thinking on this one. But I like Victoria better... :) I have Imaginos on both CD & LP, it is much clearer on the CD of course. Did the guys *ever* do any of Imaginos live? I remember when Imaginos first came out, I was just dying to see an 'Imaginos tour' only to be disappointed when next I saw them live when they didn't even play one song from it. I believe they did "Astronomy" but in the original Secret Treaties form. I read the background on Imaginos and understand now why but the album is soooo good, I'd give much to see it performed live. ||\ * Ask me for my PGP Key! "San Diego's ||< * Brokedown Palace! 619-596-1974/7419 Original |_||/ * jbrooks at bpalace.com Grateful BBS" From bpalace!jbrooks at CONNECTNET1.CONNECTNET.COM Tue Aug 29 20:30:10 1995 From: bpalace!jbrooks at CONNECTNET1.CONNECTNET.COM (Joseph Brooks) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 16:30:10 -0800 Subject: Wait, Al...Stun Guitar? Message-ID: On Sun 20-Aug-1995 10:35a, Oyster Girl wrote: OG> When did they start doing solos during the Five Guitars? Not sure I understand the question but if you mean when did they start the 5 guitar bit... I dunno but I seem to recall seeing them do it way back in '74 when I first saw them.. and, oh, I get it now... yes I seem to recall all of them doing a little solo part then as well... ||\ * Ask me for my PGP Key! "San Diego's ||< * Brokedown Palace! 619-596-1974/7419 Original |_||/ * jbrooks at bpalace.com Grateful BBS" From bpalace!jbrooks at CONNECTNET1.CONNECTNET.COM Tue Aug 29 20:41:14 1995 From: bpalace!jbrooks at CONNECTNET1.CONNECTNET.COM (Joseph Brooks) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 16:41:14 -0800 Subject: Imaginos: What I hear... Message-ID: JB> On Thu 24-Aug-1995 8:58a, John A Swartz wrote: JS> Go ahead and post what you thought you heard -- there have been a few JS> threads in the past on what some of us "thought" we were hearing. I JS> believe Chuck also posted some "translations" from a Japaneses source JS> (if memory serves) which were quite funny. Ok, you asked for it... "I am the One You Warned Me Of": "Bottles of blackness the blacker the spare" I hear: Bottles of blackness the blacker dispair "In decimal chains whose mimic cry" I hear: In dismal chains, a mimicry --- "Les Invisibles": "Salute the four quarters" I hear: Salute the four corners --- "Magna of Illusion": "Seadogs and rockers will dwell on doom" I hear: Seadogs on rockers will dwell on the doom --- "Blue Oyster Cult [Subhuman]": "When the skies become a scroll Having lost its interest.." I hear: When the skies become a strobe Having lost its entrance --- Thats it... I realize that some of these are pretty minor. On the last one, I seem to remember it that way from the .50 lyrics that I sent for (you know, the ones that came on 8-1/2 X 14 greenbar computer paper?) But I lost them about 17 years ago so... If anyone knows for certain that I'm wrong, or right, on any of these lemme know... ||\ * Ask me for my PGP Key! "San Diego's ||< * Brokedown Palace! 619-596-1974/7419 Original |_||/ * jbrooks at bpalace.com Grateful BBS" From pdegasta at MOOSE.UVM.EDU Tue Aug 29 22:08:37 1995 From: pdegasta at MOOSE.UVM.EDU (Paul De Gasta) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 22:08:37 -0400 Subject: Phish (Oysters?) In-Reply-To: <9508300023.08mg@bpalace.com> Message-ID: > On some of their more rock oriented songs, mostly just the studio stuff, they > remind me of BOC, lyricly, vocally and musicly. If you have the "Hoist" CD, > listen to the song "Axilla" and I think you'll see what I mean. > > For the most part, the two bands couldn't be more disimilar but every once in > a while... > > Then again, maybe I'm just wierd... Well, I kinda see what you're getting at. I suppose they are similiar in that respect. How long have you been a fan? -- ____ _ |\ _ _ _ _ | \ | | | \| | |/ > | __/ |_| | | \ |__\ \___/| |\_|_|\ | |/ \| pdegasta at moose.uvm.edu From tp at JDT.COM Tue Aug 29 22:49:50 1995 From: tp at JDT.COM (Terry Poot) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 21:49:50 -0500 Subject: Age poll Message-ID: Age: 35 Name: Terry Poot Handle: D-Rider on BBSes that use handles, IITBOTFTBD on Hot Wired cuz D-Rider was aready taken! E-Mail Address: tp at jdt.com Primary Band: Hawkwind HW Seen Live: never (*sob*) BOC seen live: 4-5 times between 78 and 83 in Dallas. Favorite Album: HW: Varies. Currently Electric Tepee, I guess. BOC: Also varies. Currently Imaginos. First HW album: Heckifino, probably HOTMG, Quark, or ISOS. First BOC album: AOF Last Album Purchased: Electric Tepee (HW), TRBN (BOC) Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: Yep, seen 'em 4-5 times, have most albums. Comments: Haven't seen or heard Brain Surgeons. Haven't seen NikWind and don't want to. Like most HW, but the Calvert/Nik stuff less (gross overgeneralization, of course). Like 1-4 cuts from the average BOC album, but like those very much. Also into '70s metal, prog rock, energetic jazz rock, misc other things. Location: Manhattan, Kansas, USA -- Terry Poot -- tp at jdt.com (Work -- tp at mccall.com) From gnome at TELEPORT.COM Tue Aug 29 23:15:10 1995 From: gnome at TELEPORT.COM (Kevin Haskel Rubin) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 20:15:10 -0700 Subject: Age Poll Addendum In-Reply-To: from "Paul Ward" at Aug 30, 95 00:17:13 am Message-ID: > On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Paul Ward wrote: > > > > Name: Paul Ward > Age: 29 in a fortnight ... and allready going grey. Yikes! Don't feel bad. I've had grey hairs for 14 years now. Name: Kevin Rubin Handles: Gnome, 3999RK60 RU5M7I, Satan, Shorty (closely related to Gnome) Email: gnome at teleport.com Age: 26.0603+ Came to BOC-L for: Hawkwind, got hardcore into BOC since then. First HW CD: Palace Springs Last HW CD: BBC Radio 1 Live in Concert First BOC tape: Fire of Unknown Origin Last BOC CD: Secret Treaties (actually, FoUO (finally on CD)) First BS CD: Eponymous Last BS CD: Trepanation Next BS CD: ?? (any one that comes next) -- Kevin Rubin aka 3999RK60 RU5M7I Co-Op Network Operations Manager gnome at teleport.com Oregon Coast Rural Information Service Cooperative http://www.teleport.com/~gnome From gumby at PRIMENET.COM Wed Aug 30 00:01:35 1995 From: gumby at PRIMENET.COM (Thomas Nelson) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 21:01:35 -0700 Subject: Age Poll Message-ID: Name: Thomas Nelson Handle: The Gumby Man Age: 30 (210 dog years) E-Mail Address: gumby at primenet.com Primary Band: BOC First Time Seen Live: 1988, Oakland, CA Last time Seen Live: Same Favorite Album: Spectres Last Album Purchased: Bad Channels Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: no, but want to try Comments (please be brief): Accompanied in life by Shelanda (Wife) and Whitney the Wonder Dog Location: (Where do you live): San Bernardino, CA (In the Shadow of California!!!) From gumby at PRIMENET.COM Wed Aug 30 00:02:27 1995 From: gumby at PRIMENET.COM (Thomas Nelson) Date: Tue, 29 Aug 1995 21:02:27 -0700 Subject: BOC R.I.P.?? Message-ID: This is the Gumby Man. I have been quietly and slowly digesting the recent topic of "Is BOC dead?" (Digestion isn't to be hurried) Here are my feelings: It is kind of scary to see this topic even brought up. I look around and what do I see? The last four albums released have been Career of Evil, On Flame with Rock and Roll, Bad Channels, and Cult Classics. The next release is Workshop of the Telescopes. As I take a bite out of this morsel I realize that I am being served the same meal over and over again (except for Bad Channels, which certainly left a bad taste in my mouth). The listeners of BOC are being feed compilation album after compilation album. In that aspect, it doesn't feel like BOC is alive. It almost feels like they are a 70's/80's band with nothing more to offer. Lack of record label notwithstanding, the absence of new material is unprecedented in their history (Actually, they have been sporadic since _Club Ninja._ That in itself can be troubling for a fan that is used to having a new album every couple of years). Yet despite all of this, I still think that BOC is alive. Their commitment to playing live is a testament to this. It isn't unprecedented for a band to concentrate on touring. Take the Grateful Dead as an example. They have released only occasional studio albums in the last 15 years. Few people, if any, have ever claimed that they might be washed up. In fact, the band's reputation is strictly built around it's concerts...they are quite comfortable with the image that they stut their stuff on stage, not in the studio. Why should BOC be any different? They are, after all, "On Tour Forever." Once again, though, I must mention that just the fact that the topic is being brought up means it is on people's minds. This doesn't bode well for the group. We need to stand behind them completely. I talk about the band all of the time at my workplace. The common response is " Yeah, BOC was great, weren't they?" It is always phrased in past tense, as if they are "no more." Of course, I quickly respond that the band is still together with a firm commitment to touring. Generally, people are happy to hear this, but they seem more interested in whether or not they have put out any new material. The verdict: To the hardcore fans, Blue Oyster Cult is still going strong To the general public, they are fondly remembered, i.e. - dead Time for some questions. 1. I haven't purchased Cult Classics yet. I've been putting it off. Can anybody give me a clue as to whether I should pick it up? 2. Is Workshop of Telescopes going to be stictly rares and b-sides, or is it going to be a greatest hits album with a few "extra" tracks on it? Finally, I must put my vote in for favorite live album. Extraterrestrial Live receives my vote (with OYFFOOYK a very close second). The opening 5 or 6 tracks rock hard. My favorite track on all of the albums would have to be "Then Came the Last Days of May" on OYFFOOYK. Everytime I listen to it, it reminds me of seeing Buck do this song when I caught them on tour. Isn't that what a live recording should do? This has been a long one. With a wink and a burp, The Gumby Man is out. ---------------------------------------- gumby at primenet.com "In my tortured ears there sounds unceasingly a nightmare whirring and flapping..." H.P. Lovecraft ("The Hound," 1924) ---------------------------------------- From fraker at SEANEWS.AKITA.COM Wed Aug 30 03:05:16 1995 From: fraker at SEANEWS.AKITA.COM (skip galvin) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 00:05:16 -0700 Subject: Patti Smith Message-ID: Was wondering if anyone has checked out a Patti Smith poetry reading lately. She is doing a reading in town on Sept 3. Does she perform with a guitar during part of the show? --Skip /s -- [] SEANEWS [] Seattle Public Access (v.FC 28.8k) [] fraker at seanews.akita.com [] +1 206 747-NEWS (6397) [] From gbga1j7g at IBMMAIL.COM Wed Aug 30 04:32:14 1995 From: gbga1j7g at IBMMAIL.COM (Mr R Sapiano GBGENAC1 Corp Risks UK (Prop)) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 04:32:14 EDT Subject: TEST BOC, BRAIN TEST Message-ID: OK everybody stay calm, this is a test. Lay on the floor, don't nobody try and do nothing stupid and nobody gets hurt. R Sapiano From emphyrio at CIX.COMPULINK.CO.UK Wed Aug 30 10:28:00 1995 From: emphyrio at CIX.COMPULINK.CO.UK (Andrew Gilham) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 10:28:00 BST-1 Subject: ETI (was BOC content) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9508300034.08mu at bpalace.com> > > Did the guys *ever* do any of Imaginos live? I remember when Imaginos > first > came out, I was just dying to see an 'Imaginos tour' only to be > disappointed > when next I saw them live when they didn't even play one song from it. I > believe they did "Astronomy" but in the original Secret Treaties form. No, they actually did the re-arranged "Astronomy". And "In the Presence". Maybe one other but I can't think what - "I am the One" perhaps? - Andy From emphyrio at CIX.COMPULINK.CO.UK Wed Aug 30 10:28:00 1995 From: emphyrio at CIX.COMPULINK.CO.UK (Andrew Gilham) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 10:28:00 BST-1 Subject: Wait, Al...Stun Guitar? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <9508300030.08mn at bpalace.com> > OG> When did they start doing solos during the Five Guitars? > when I first saw them.. and, oh, I get it now... yes I seem to recall > all of > them doing a little solo part then as well... Indeed, you can see this on the _Live 1976_ tape. Boy, does Eric concentrate when it's his turn! - Andy From hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE Wed Aug 30 05:44:21 1995 From: hawkjoe at EKA.ERICSSON.SE (Johan Edlundh) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 11:44:21 +0200 Subject: Elric book found Message-ID: found the third book in the Elric saga, 'the Weird of the White Wolf' in US pocket version today, for the amazing price of SEK 15, which is about US$ 2.15 there was four more left, and no rush... it's not so common here, so if someone want me to pick it up, I'll do it for this price + p&p "The Albino Empereor meets Queen Yishana..." \\joe From lansford at VNET.NET Wed Aug 30 01:49:07 1995 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Oyster Girl) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 05:49:07 +0000 Subject: BOC: Imaginos (was ETI (was BOC content)) Message-ID: On 29 Aug 95, Joseph Brooks wrote: > Did the guys *ever* do any of Imaginos live? They've done "I Am the One." I don't know of any others. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- It's not what people call you - but what you answer to - that matters. - Barry Saunders -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net From lansford at VNET.NET Wed Aug 30 01:49:05 1995 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Oyster Girl) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 05:49:05 +0000 Subject: Brain Surgeons and ITS comming Message-ID: On 28 Aug 95, BREVARD Adrian R. wrote: > I decided to do a little thinking about the Brain Surgeons doing > some BOC covers. I see some good and bad in doing covers. First > the good: > > Now the Bad: > > 1. Any BOC cover probably subtracts a Surgeon original, is that > worth it? It is if they're using the BOC tunes like I think they are: for variety. Even with two albums to chose from, a setlist can get stale in a hurry. I don't know how BOC has kept going with the same set for so many years; I'd need a rubber room. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- It's not what people call you - but what you answer to - that matters. - Barry Saunders -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Aug 30 08:13:51 1995 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 08:13:51 -0400 Subject: ETI (was BOC content) Message-ID: Joe asks: > Did the guys *ever* do any of Imaginos live? I remember when Imaginos > first > came out, I was just dying to see an 'Imaginos tour' only to be > disappointed Andy correctly pointed out that BOC did "Astronomy" (Imaginos version, with Buck vocals), "In the Presence...", and "I am the One...". These were done briefly in 1989 (maybe late '88, and maybe into 1990), and that was it. Yeah, there's some absolutely fantastic music on that album, huh? It's a shame the album never got the full respect that it deserved (if BOC ever had the hopes of a commercial revival, Imaginos was it -- they had the opportunity to put the original line-up back together with some of the heaviest music ever associated with their name -- but they blew it, and Albert's true genius on that album was never shown to the world). Since the music wasn't really theirs, I guess BOC had no real desire to continue playing it live. I don't know if Al/Deb have really considered it at all (and they certainly have enough material without it), but I think the Brain Surgeons could do some of that material live and it would go over fantastically. John From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Aug 30 08:36:05 1995 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 08:36:05 -0400 Subject: BOC R.I.P.?? Message-ID: Gumby writes a few things that I'll add a few cents to . . . >I have been quietly and slowly digesting the recent topic of >"Is BOC dead?" Please - digest it. Don't anyone vomit it up again! ;-) >1. I haven't purchased Cult Classics yet. I've been putting it off. Can anybody give me a clue as to whether I should pick it up? Another regurgitated topic, but one I don't mind commenting on. IMHO, if you need to be a completist (like me), you should get it -- the studio version of "Buck's Boogie" is worth the price of admission. I also like the new versions of "O.D.'d on Life..." and "This Ain't the Summer...". Alot of the other portions of the album may leave you feeling, well, unfullfilled (and while the "TV Mixes" may be a bit of a novelty at first, you'll soon be hitting the "skip" button on your CD player). If you are merely looking for a BOC compilation, my guess is that *Workshop of the Telescopes* will blow *Cult Classic* away. But, I still like it. >2. Is Workshop of Telescopes going to be stictly rares and b-sides, or is it going to be a greatest hits album with a few "extra" tracks on it? Closer to the second. I believe it will have all the "hits", and they will be as they were on the original albums or singles (although possibly with some sound quality enhancement). The "b-sides" are supposed to be there, along with the studio version of "Born to be Wild" (which I believe was the "a-side" of a promo single). Also, the "Bootleg EP" songs (4 recorded live in NY in '72) are supposed to be on there. Unfortunately, for the BOC fan that has almost everything, there won't be ALOT of new stuff here that I'm aware of (but hints of future releases of rarer stuff like the Stalk Forrest Group EP?), but it should be a nice package for most BOC fans, I would think - and, some of that rare stuff that some of us only have on vinyl or tape will be now on CD. >Finally, I must put my vote in for favorite live album. Extraterrestrial Live receives my vote (with OYFFOOYK a very close second). I've held off on responding to this question because I like all of BOC's stuff (yes, even Club Ninja), and I think each album has some great stuff to offer. *Some Enchanted Evening* was the first BOC record I ever bought (because I was into Godzilla movies, and I heard that BOC had a song about him - so I went to a used record store . . . and now I'm getting ready to release the next version of the BOC FAQ -- life is strange and wonderful, ain't it?) and was blown away. *On Your Feet...* is great for me because in some weird way, it just captures the mid-70's rock concert for me in some way, and those classic oldies, some of which I'll never hear live again, still ring true to me today. *ETL*, although seemingly a more commercial move (capitalizing on the strength of "Burnin' for You" - perhaps this was the first instance of BOC and/or their record company trying to cash in on their past?), has alot of energy, and alot of great tunes. So, I like them all, but for different reasons. John From bpalace!jbrooks at CONNECTNET1.CONNECTNET.COM Wed Aug 30 09:57:41 1995 From: bpalace!jbrooks at CONNECTNET1.CONNECTNET.COM (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 05:57:41 -0800 Subject: Phish (Oysters?) Message-ID: On Tue 29-Aug-1995 10:08p, Paul De Gasta wrote: PG> Well, I kinda see what you're getting at. I suppose they are similiar in PG> that respect. How long have you been a fan? Of BOC or Phish? 20 years for BOC, only about 2 for Phish... Phish's new live CD is just awesome. ||\ * Ask me for my PGP Key! "San Diego's ||< * Brokedown Palace! 619-596-1974/7419 Original |_||/ * jbrooks at bpalace.com Grateful BBS" From stephen at SYSTEM9.UNISYS.COM Wed Aug 30 09:19:13 1995 From: stephen at SYSTEM9.UNISYS.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 09:19:13 -0400 Subject: Age poll Message-ID: Name: Stephen Lindsey Age: 31 Handle: Steve L (in deference to Steve Swann, and because I certainly don't want to get blamed for everything) E-Mail Address:stephen at system9.unisys.com Primary Band: HW First Time Seen Live: Oxford '82 Last time Seen Live: St Catherines '95 Favorite Album: SPACE RITUAL Last Album Purchased: White Zone Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: Yes but not a big fan Comments (please be brief): Will have to move to bigger house if Hawkwind keep releasing albums. Location: (Where do you live) Toronto (but ex-pat Brit) From abrevard at SHL.COM Wed Aug 30 11:10:00 1995 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD Adrian R.) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 08:10:00 PDT Subject: BOC R.I.P.??Warning! Message-ID: Ab's had some coffee. Beware >Gumby writes a few things that I'll add a few cents to . . . > >Finally, I must put my vote in for favorite live album. Extraterrestrial Live receives my vote (with OYFFOOYK a very close second). >I've held off on responding to this question because I like all of BOC's >stuff (yes, even Club Ninja), and I think each album has some great stuff >to offer. Hey I kinda like Club Ninja too, just too embarrased to admit it. Thought I would be flamed for doing so. OK now all you other Ninja fans can come out of the closet. > *On Your Feet...* is great for me because in some weird way, it just captures the mid-70's >rock concert for me in some way, and those classic oldies, some of which >I'll never hear live again, still ring true to me today. The name of the Album should have been "This Is Blue Oyster Cult" I bet (no no no. No more polls) most people on this list who first saw the Cult in the 74-76 era would say that this is Da Band. Raw energy and as close to the actual concert sound as any live recording ever. This to me is THE LIVE album for any group period. >*ETL*, although seemingly a more commercial move (capitalizing on the strength of "Burnin' >for You" - perhaps this was the first instance of BOC and/or their record >company trying to cash in on their past?), has alot of energy, and alot >of great tunes. So, I like them all, but for different reasons. >John ETL is fabulous, any album that has D&S live is worth buying. The FOUO songs are terrific and made me a rel fan of that work but the older songs like Cities on Flame and Hot Rails to Hell just don't stack up to OYFOOYK. They sound pretty weak when I play both versions. I would have preffered less of the Classics on this one. AB From jobroin at MADGE.CO.UK Wed Aug 30 09:49:52 1995 From: jobroin at MADGE.CO.UK (Jason O'Broin) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:49:52 +0100 Subject: Age poll In-Reply-To: <199508301319.JAA26271@dogberry> from "Stephen Lindsey" at Aug 30, 95 09:19:13 am Message-ID: > > Name: Jason O'Broin > Age: 24 > Handle: None > E-Mail Address: jobroin at madge.com > Primary Band: BOC > First Time Seen Live: Never > Last time Seen Live: Still never > Favorite Album: Imaginos/Secret Treaties/Tyranny and Mutation > Last Album Purchased: BOC (finally found it on CD) > Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: Yes, but hate them > Comments (please be brief): I wish BOC or BS would do a UK tour > Location: (Where do you live) Chesham (near London), UK Jason -- Jason O'Broin - Development Engineer Madge Networks, Sefton Park, Bells Hill, Stoke Poges, Slough SL2 4JS. UK Phone +44 1494 541258 Email: jobroin at madge.com or jobroin at madge.co.uk - Freedom belongs to those without videoscreens for hands or mouths - From abrevard at SHL.COM Wed Aug 30 11:41:00 1995 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD Adrian R.) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 08:41:00 PDT Subject: Age poll Update Message-ID: Whew. I am now up to 20 pages in my document, the responses continue to pour in. Thus far I have been pasting people into MS Word in a single column, thus the 20 pages. Now the hard part. I will be adjusting the formats for universal appearance and puting the directory in alphabetical order for easy access by suscribers. We should have a breif period where I will be asking some people for ommitted information and clarifications. After these items have been put to rest we can figure out the best way to distribute the directory. Now the bad news. I will be on vacation Friday 9/1, partake in the long weekend, back to the office tuesday morning and on a plane to Atlanta tuesday night. Should be returning to the office thursday morning so there will be a delay in getting the directory completed. Speaking of Atlanta, has Craig Shipley resuscribed yet? Craig if your out there we need your data. Also seeing how I will be in Atlanta tuesday night can any list locals suggest a good club to see a band or provide some detail regarding someone interesting playing the area? I checked Cyber baron and unfortunately BOC won't be nearby. Would love to catch a group like the Outlaws, or some other geriatric band from the 70's. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Also Al & Deb if you can spare some time from the old operating room would love to have your vitals reflected in the directory, (with you guys and the characters from the Dream saga it would add some "star" quality to the listing). Thanks AB From thompsom at OSOFT_NT.BUCKHEAD.COM Wed Aug 30 11:37:00 1995 From: thompsom at OSOFT_NT.BUCKHEAD.COM (Matt Thompson) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 11:37:00 E Subject: Age poll Update Message-ID: AB wrote: > Also seeing how I will be in Atlanta tuesday night can any list >locals suggest a good club to see a band or provide some detail regarding >someone interesting playing the area? There usually isn't so much during the week but the weekends are occasionally a who's who of southern bands that have opened for BOC: Outlaws, Blackfoot, Molly Hatchet et al. all play fairly regularly. Send me mail directly and I'll check the listings for when you are going to be here. Have a good trip! Matt Thompson thompsom at osoft_nt.buckhead.com "Atlanta, Georgia!...R U Ready 2 Rock 'n Roll?" From white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU Wed Aug 30 11:27:32 1995 From: white at BORG.MED.ECU.EDU (Martyn White) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 11:27:32 -0400 Subject: Age poll Message-ID: >E-Mail Address:stephen at system9.unisys.com >Primary Band: HW >First Time Seen Live: Oxford '82 >Last time Seen Live: St Catherines '95 Is that St Catherines in Oxford?? Martyn From etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE Wed Aug 30 16:40:40 1995 From: etlrbsy at ETLXDMX.ERICSSON.SE (Rob S) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 16:40:40 BST Subject: Age poll Message-ID: > > >E-Mail Address:stephen at system9.unisys.com > >Primary Band: HW > >First Time Seen Live: Oxford '82 > >Last time Seen Live: St Catherines '95 > Is that St Catherines in Oxford?? > > Martyn > I hope not, 'cos I've missed a gig if I have. bye - Rob From stephen at SYSTEM9.UNISYS.COM Wed Aug 30 11:45:43 1995 From: stephen at SYSTEM9.UNISYS.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 11:45:43 -0400 Subject: Age poll Message-ID: > > >E-Mail Address:stephen at system9.unisys.com > >Primary Band: HW > >First Time Seen Live: Oxford '82 > >Last time Seen Live: St Catherines '95 > Is that St Catherines in Oxford?? > > Martyn > No, thats St Catherines Ontario, site of possibly the smallest gig in Hawkwind history I would imagine. (St Caths is conveniently halfway between Toronto & Buffalo so has been on the tour schedule the last two tours. The Hideaway club holds maybe 300 people, the stage is barely big enough for the band. This is the (well to me) legendary gig where Ron Bastard maanged to suspend himself upside down from the rafters above the stage (thats how low the cieling is). Also you can only get off teh stage on one side, I remember Captain Brock creeping back onto the stage during one of the instrumental bits having gone off to grab a drink, and trying to sneak across in front of the drum kit without being seen, much to Alans and Richards amusement. Being a transplanted Brit, and havint to endure years of no HW tours over here, I have to find it somewhat amusing that I've still seen the new lineup twice as many times as anybody in the UK so far. Cheers, Steve L. From mxw at DMU.AC.UK Wed Aug 30 11:46:18 1995 From: mxw at DMU.AC.UK (Maxine Wesley) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 16:46:18 +0100 Subject: Age Poll In-Reply-To: <303E48E9@houmg001.shl.com> Message-ID: "I would have liked you to have been deep frozen tooo..." (Spirit of the Age) Name: Maxine Wesley Age: 32 Handle: With Care E-Mail Address: mxw at dmu.ac.uk Primary Band: Hawkwind First Time Seen Live: HW Leicester 1977/8 (poor memory!) BOC - Leicester 1977? (ditto) Last time Seen Live: HW Derby Bike Fest July 1995 Best Gig - albeit short was HW headlining the Anglia for Africa benefit 1985 First Album: Hawklords - 25 years on Favorite Album: (Today!) - Choose Your Masques Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: Yes Comments (please be brief): oof!? "..the nights shall be filled with music And the cares that infest the day e-mail: mxw at dmu.ac.uk Shall fold their tents like Arabs http://www.dmu.ac.uk/~mxw And as silently steal away" (??? anyone know which poet wrote the above?) From grant_c%wglim1.DNET at SB.COM Wed Aug 30 11:45:36 1995 From: grant_c%wglim1.DNET at SB.COM (CHARLES THE GRINNING BOY) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 11:45:36 -0400 Subject: BOC reference to "Deadline" Message-ID: >Albert adds: >>Deadline- Phil(King- dead ex-booking agent also mentoned in Hot Rails "The >>King did not know..."), David (BOC roommate who first found out and had to >>look at the morgue photos) Jonh adds: >I have the following entry in the FAQ: >bit missed out< >Hmm...sounds like these two items go together, but Al, can you verify? >Was Phil King murdered (by the mafia, or someone else), and why? This >sounds like a real interesting story (or just rumors blown way out of >proportion). I remember that article, it was about rock deaths. If I remember correctly through the rust and cobwebs, I think the article said that he was shot during a gambling argument. Wether this was over unpaid debts or an argument over cheating, I don't think it said. .......Charlie. grant_c%wglim1.dnet at sb.com From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Wed Aug 30 12:07:35 1995 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 17:07:35 +0100 Subject: Age poll In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:49:52 BST." <9508301449.aa08774@madge1.dev.madge.com> Message-ID: Jason's data - > > Primary Band: BOC > > First Time Seen Live: Never > > Last time Seen Live: Still never > > Favorite Album: Imaginos/Secret Treaties/Tyranny and Mutation > > Last Album Purchased: BOC (finally found it on CD) > > Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: Yes, but hate them ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What ?! Obviously you were resistant to my Hawkwind indoctrination tapes at Van Mildert. Blasphemy ! ;-) Tim nowPlaying: Autechre, "Garbage" ep From riordan at MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU Wed Aug 30 13:00:06 1995 From: riordan at MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (Phillip A Jaeger) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 12:00:06 -0500 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=F6C=2FSteely?= Dan Message-ID: Truely sad news. It seems that Steely Dan will have a new album out before B=D6C. (Sept. 14) Oh well, life goes... phillip a jaeger =3D=3D> riordan at mail.utexas.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D if your circles could be spirals? and your idols were machines? you could pick up all the signals, and fly from where you've been. -Are You Receiving Me? Golden Earring ('73) From riordan at MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU Wed Aug 30 12:57:33 1995 From: riordan at MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (Phillip A Jaeger) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 11:57:33 -0500 Subject: age poll Message-ID: Riordan Real? Name: Phillip A Jaeger Age: 30 and 8 monthes Primary Band: B=F6C =46irst Album: Secret Treaties ('79) =46irst Saw: Dec. '89, Austin,Tx Last Seen: March '94, Austin, Tx Total Shows: 6 phillip a jaeger =3D=3D> riordan at mail.utexas.edu =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D if your circles could be spirals? and your idols were machines? you could pick up all the signals, and fly from where you've been. -Are You Receiving Me? Golden Earring ('73) From irby at HERA.ASTR.UA.EDU Wed Aug 30 13:15:47 1995 From: irby at HERA.ASTR.UA.EDU (Bryan Irby) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 12:15:47 -0500 Subject: imaginos tour was Re: eti.. In-Reply-To: <199508301213.IAA16831@mbunix.mitre.org> from "John A Swartz" at Aug 30, 95 08:13:51 am Message-ID: > > Did the guys *ever* do any of Imaginos live? I remember when Imaginos > > first > > came out, I was just dying to see an 'Imaginos tour' only to be > > disappointed > > Andy correctly pointed out that BOC did "Astronomy" (Imaginos version, with > Buck vocals), "In the Presence...", and "I am the One...". These were > done briefly in 1989 (maybe late '88, and maybe into 1990), and that was > it. Just to re-confirm: A show which has been mentioned here before: Winston- Salem, NC, July 15, 1988 - "1st show of the Imaginos Tour": "Astronomy '88", "In the Presence..", and "I Am the One.." were played. I'll not soon forget that show... I guess you could call it an official Imaginos tour with t-shirts and patches and that sort of thing (though I didn't see these on sale until May of 1989, at which shows they played nothing from Imaginos...). -Bryan From NSTK33A at PRODIGY.COM Wed Aug 30 12:53:48 1995 From: NSTK33A at PRODIGY.COM (ROB MAERZ) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 12:53:48 -0400 Subject: ETI (was BOC content) Message-ID: -- [ From: Rob Maerz * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- I have a boot from the Imaginos tour that contains I Am The One You Warned Me Of, In The Presence of Another World and Astronomy on it...would've loved to hear Les Invisibles on there too... ROBODUDE ______________________________________________________ Q: What's a BOC Web site 2 cheap to have a BOC logo on it? A: Underbelly Online! http://pages.prodigy.com/PA/robo/robo1.html message boards, tape trades, links and library (coming soon!) ______________________________________________________ -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- > Date: Tuesday, 29-Aug-95 10:09 PM > > From: Joseph Brooks \ Internet: > (bpalace!jbrooks at connectnet1.connectnet.com) > To: Rob Maerz \ PRODIGY: (NSTK33A) > > Subject: ETI (was BOC content) > > On Sun 27-Aug-1995 9:00a, Oyster Girl wrote: > > OG> I heard "Victoria" at first, but finally heard the "p" after some > OG> careful listening to the CD. It's amazing how much clearer the > OG> lyrics are on CD instead of vinyl. > > I'm beginning to come to your way of thinking on this one. But I like > Victoria better... :) I have Imaginos on both CD & LP, it is much clearer > on the CD of course. > > Did the guys *ever* do any of Imaginos live? I remember when Imaginos > first came out, I was just dying to see an 'Imaginos tour' only to be > disappointed when next I saw them live when they didn't even play one song > from it. I believe they did "Astronomy" but in the original Secret > Treaties form. > > I read the background on Imaginos and understand now why but the album is > soooo good, I'd give much to see it performed live. > > > > ||\ * Ask me for my PGP Key! "San Diego's > ||< * Brokedown Palace! 619-596-1974/7419 Original > |_||/ * jbrooks at bpalace.com Grateful > BBS" > > > -------- REPLY, End of original message -------- From halligbt at BIGVAX.ALFRED.EDU Wed Aug 30 14:37:30 1995 From: halligbt at BIGVAX.ALFRED.EDU (BRIAN HALLIGAN) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 13:37:30 EST Subject: Age Poll Message-ID: Name: Brian Halligan Age: 20 Handle: None E-Mail Address: Halligbt at bigvax.alfred.edu Primary Band: BOC First Time Seen Live: In a dream after buying On Your Feet Last time Seen Live: I've never actually seen them (yet!) First Album: BOC: AOF/Spectres cassette HW: Hall of the Mountain Grill Favorite Album: BOC: Spectres HW: Levitation Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: Yes Comments (please be brief): I had never heard of Hawkwind when I joined the list, but I have since bought 6 CDs and my collection is steadily growing. I'm looking forward to the resurgence of BOC onto the new music scene. From robert.sedler at NOR.MKL.COM Wed Aug 30 12:26:00 1995 From: robert.sedler at NOR.MKL.COM (ROBERT SEDLER) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 11:26:00 -0500 Subject: BOC R.I.P.?? Message-ID: -> Time for some questions. -> -> 1. I haven't purchased Cult Classics yet. I've been putting it -> off. Can anybody give me a clue as to whether I should pick it up? Gumby, You will get different answers to this question from different people. You will find that most of the good people of boc-l hold this album with a clothespin on the nose and a long pair of forceps, as they step on the foot lever of the diaper pail of music. (They think it stinks). I, on the other hand, like it quite a lot. At the VERY LEAST, it is not so much NEW boc, but DIFFERENT boc! With all the collections of previously released stuff out there, at least this one has a couple surprises on it!!! If you will do ANYTHING to hear some DIFFERENT boc, then pick up this album. The studio of Bucks Boogie is a good start, but I like it all. Torgo robert.sedler at nor.mkl.com From jobroin at MADGE.CO.UK Wed Aug 30 14:18:44 1995 From: jobroin at MADGE.CO.UK (Jason O'Broin) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 19:18:44 +0100 Subject: Age poll In-Reply-To: <26280.9508301607@dibble.aeolians.bt.co.uk> from "bart" at Aug 30, 95 05:07:35 pm Message-ID: > > > Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: Yes, but hate them > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > What ?! Obviously you were resistant to my Hawkwind indoctrination tapes at > Van Mildert. Blasphemy ! ;-) > Indeed. Glad to be of service. Now, if this were a joint DeepPurple/BOC list things would be different. ObBOC: Am I the only one who thinks that AoF is a crap album ? Jason -- Jason O'Broin - ATM Development Engineer Madge Networks, Sefton Park, Bells Hill, Stoke Poges, Slough SL2 4JS. UK Phone +44 1494 541258 Email: jobroin at madge.com or jobroin at madge.co.uk - Freedom belongs to those without videoscreens for hands or mouths - From khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU Wed Aug 30 14:17:34 1995 From: khenders at MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Keith A Henderson) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:17:34 -0400 Subject: Smallest club for HW In-Reply-To: <199508301545.LAA28290@dogberry> from "Stephen Lindsey" at Aug 30, 95 11:45:43 am Message-ID: Stephen writes: > > No, thats St Catherines Ontario, site of possibly the smallest gig in > Hawkwind history I would imagine. (St Caths is conveniently halfway > between Toronto & Buffalo so has been on the tour schedule the last two tours > > The Hideaway club holds maybe 300 people, the stage is barely big enough for > the band. This is the (well to me) legendary gig where Ron Bastard maanged > to suspend himself upside down from the rafters above the stage (thats how > low the cieling is). Also you can only get off teh stage on one side, I > remember Captain Brock creeping back onto the stage during one of the > instrumental bits > having gone off to grab a drink, and trying to sneak across in front of the > drum kit without being seen, much to Alans and Richards amusement. > > Cheers, > Steve L. Nope....sorry Steve. If you had followed me for one more gig, you would have seen them in a club even smaller than the Hideaway. Nietzche's in Buffalo was quite a bit smaller....there, the band could not get off the stage *at all*, as the only exit from the stage is out into the audience. So between the finale, and the encore 'LSD', the band sort of strolled behind their equipment for a minute or so, and then reemerged as if we didn't know where they'd gone. :) And I heard from Bill S. that the 'Wetlands' club they played in NY a few years earlier was even smaller than Nietzche's!! Hard to believe. Keith H. From chip at PCC.COM Wed Aug 30 14:31:58 1995 From: chip at PCC.COM (Chip Hart) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:31:58 -0400 Subject: Cult Classics Message-ID: >> 1. I haven't purchased Cult Classics yet. I've been putting it >> off. Can anybody give me a clue as to whether I should pick it up? While it *is* cheezy and perhaps a little sacrilegious to enjoy, I REALLY like the new version of "Flaming Telepaths" -- enough, in fact, to make it worth the price of the CD. It has far better production, is more haunting, and features an excellent new Buck solo (the last good thing I've heard from him since "Perfect Water"). It may sound funny, but after hearing a clean version of said song, I went back and found _Secret Treaties_ much more enjoyable. -- Chip Hart * chip at pcc.com * http://www.pcc.com/~chip People's Computer Company * 800-722-7708/802-872-8177 F:802-872-8214 15 Pinecrest Drive * Essex Junction, VT 05452 From abrevard at SHL.COM Wed Aug 30 16:26:00 1995 From: abrevard at SHL.COM (BREVARD Adrian R.) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 13:26:00 PDT Subject: Age poll Message-ID: > > > Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: Yes, but hate them > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > What ?! Obviously you were resistant to my Hawkwind indoctrination tapes at > Van Mildert. Blasphemy ! ;-) > >Indeed. Glad to be of service. >Now, if this were a joint DeepPurple/BOC list things would be different. >ObBOC: Am I the only one who thinks that AoF is a crap album ? >Jason -- Well today has been kinda of special, John and I admited that we like Club Ninja and Jason wants to know if he is the only one who thinks AOF is a crappy album. Well if your looking for sympathertic votes on that my friend you won't get them from me. AOF is a fabulous piece of work. Would be interested in your opinion on the enitre BOC library though. AB From gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU Wed Aug 30 14:08:47 1995 From: gvacano at BEAVER.MBB.WESLEYAN.EDU (Guido Vacano) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 14:08:47 -0400 Subject: test Message-ID: test From jobroin at MADGE.CO.UK Wed Aug 30 15:11:28 1995 From: jobroin at MADGE.CO.UK (Jason O'Broin) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 20:11:28 +0100 Subject: BOC: Opinions on albums In-Reply-To: <3044CD68@houmg001.shl.com> from "BREVARD Adrian R." at Aug 30, 95 01:26:00 pm Message-ID: > > Well today has been kinda of special, John and I admited that we like Club > Ninja and Jason wants to know if he is the only one who thinks AOF is a > crappy album. Well if your looking for sympathertic votes on that my friend > you won't get them from me. AOF is a fabulous piece of work. Would be > interested in your opinion on the enitre BOC library though. Well, I think AoF is a most overrated album. It is the one I play least (other than Club Ninja which I refused to buy). Sure, ETI and Reaper are great but I can't say that many of the other songs have ever gelled with me. Favourite albums are Secret Treaties, Imaginos and Tyranny and Mutation. I like Revolution a lot as well. As for the rest: BOC - well, it's an early album and is not as an accomplished piece of work as T&M or ST. Spectres and Mirrors are okay. They both have some cracking good songs on them, but I can't say I am overawed by the general 'sound' direction of those albums. Cultosarous fits into this catagory as well. Live albums: OYFOOYK is my favourite followed by ETL. SEE always strikes me as been a 'quick buck' style album, but there is a cracking version of Astronomy on it. Of course, it is somewhat close to my heart as some of it is recorded in Newcastle (Toonarmy!) where I did my MSc. Hope that gives some insight! Jason -- Jason O'Broin - Development Engineer Madge Networks, Sefton Park, Bells Hill, Stoke Poges, Slough SL2 4JS. UK Phone +44 1494 541258 Email: jobroin at madge.com or jobroin at madge.co.uk - Freedom belongs to those without videoscreens for hands or mouths - From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Wed Aug 30 16:03:59 1995 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 16:03:59 -0400 Subject: BOC R.I.P.?? Message-ID: Torgo writes regarding Cult Classic: You will get different answers to this question from different people. You will find that most of the good people of boc-l hold this album with a clothespin on the nose and a long pair of forceps, as they step on the foot lever of the diaper pail of music. (They think it stinks). Hey, I guess this means that I can call myself one of the "Bad Boys of BOC-L"!! 8-) But seriously, I don't know if you can go far as to say most of BOC-l feels this way. Certainly there has been some vocal dislike for the album, but more than 2 (i.e. you and me Torgo ;-) ) have said that they like it. I think one of the biggest gripes that some have with it is that one would think that if songs are going to be re-done, they ought to be better the second time around. Most folks don't feel that Cult Classic's tunes are better than the originals. Different yes, but by most people's definition, not better -- and as BOC fans, these folks probably feel a little betrayed by the band to shell out $x.00 for a CD that contains a somewhat lackluster effort. I like it, and there are a few of us on BOC-L that do. But, I can definitely understand why it has not met with rave reviews here. John From lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU Wed Aug 30 16:50:15 1995 From: lapis at POBOX.UPENN.EDU (dave cohen) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 16:50:15 -0400 Subject: age poll In-Reply-To: <30424455@houmg001.shl.com> from "BREVARD Adrian R." at Aug 28, 95 03:18:00 pm Message-ID: > Name:dave cohen > Handle: lapis, lapiskickkennedy > E-Mail Address:lapis at pobox.upenn.edu > Primary Band: HW > First Time Seen Live:nikwind at nicks, philly july '95 > Last time Seen Live:see above > Favorite Album:WatEoT > Last Album Purchased:box set of QS&C > Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: yes > Comments (please be brief):interested in HW via MM (moorcock, not monster magnet) > Location: philadelphia > --dave From stephen at SYSTEM9.UNISYS.COM Wed Aug 30 16:57:26 1995 From: stephen at SYSTEM9.UNISYS.COM (Stephen Lindsey) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 16:57:26 -0400 Subject: Amazing SOunds Message-ID: I've a feeling this old news, but just in case. I have seen a copy of the new (HW) Griffin Amazing Sounds, not in a box set and with the bonus tracks as expected. Probably this has been seen elsewhere but it was delayed for a long time, and I don't recall a positive sighting... [Haven't actually picked it up yet, shame on me....] Cheers, Steve L. From thompsom at OSOFT_NT.BUCKHEAD.COM Wed Aug 30 16:22:00 1995 From: thompsom at OSOFT_NT.BUCKHEAD.COM (Matt Thompson) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 16:22:00 E Subject: Cult Classics Message-ID: > better production, is more haunting, and features an excellent new > Buck solo (the last good thing I've heard from him since > "Perfect Water"). I assume you are refering to Buck's studio output and not his live playing. In any case check out "Gamera is Missing" from Guitars Practicing Musicians Vol. 1 for some tasty Buck fret work. Does anyone know who plays what solos on Imaginos? Matt Thompson thompsom at osoft_nt.buckhead.com From delacour at UNM.EDU Wed Aug 30 18:50:29 1995 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 16:50:29 -0600 Subject: BOC: 9\4\95, Santa Ana In-Reply-To: <01HUMP72H0O29D5QL4@delphi.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Aug 1995 HERBERT119 at DELPHI.COM wrote: > I don't think there's too many people in the So Cal area who > might make it to the show at the Galaxy, in Santa Ana? I'm > thinking about going, but the tix are a little high for me > ($18.50 at the door, 22-23 bucks from Ticketbastard). If some > BOC-Lers would show up, that would be more incentive... > > Chuck > Chuck- Jean & I will be at the Strand & Ventura shows. Can't make the Galaxy because that's a travel day for us back to NM Hope to meet you!!!! Manuel & Jean Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From delacour at UNM.EDU Wed Aug 30 18:57:14 1995 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 16:57:14 -0600 Subject: BOC R.I.P.?? In-Reply-To: <199508301236.IAA19952@mbunix.mitre.org> Message-ID: John- CC is worth picking up for the simple fact that it contains a studio version of Buck's Boogie. And the new way they do Summer of Love ...... Manuel Jean Delacour University of New Mexico Parish Library Alb, NM 87131-1496 delacour at unm.edu From delacour at UNM.EDU Wed Aug 30 19:14:47 1995 From: delacour at UNM.EDU (jean l delacour) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 17:14:47 -0600 Subject: IMPORTANT! Age Poll = Directory, Format included. In-Reply-To: <303E48E9@houmg001.shl.com> Message-ID: > > FORMAT - > Name: Manuel Alzaga, Jr. (31) & Jean Delacour (41) > Handle: None > E-Mail Address:delacour at unm.edu > Primary Band: Blue Oyster Cult & Black Sabbath!!!! > First Time Seen Live: Aug 5th, 1979 Jack Murphy Stadium, San Diego, CA > Last time Seen Live: Sep 10th, 1994 Coach House, San Juan, CA > Favorite Album: Either Secret Treaties or Spectres. > Last Album Purchased: BOC Reaper...Best of (German import). > Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: Whose Hawkwind?? > Comments (please be brief): > Jean calls me a nerd all the time because I am always collecting, listening to and arranging BOC live tapes/photos by chronological order. But hey, it was her idea to see them twice in CA. I'll buy her a pocket protector for X-Mas!!!!!! Manuel From canders at WJH.HARVARD.EDU Wed Aug 30 20:09:02 1995 From: canders at WJH.HARVARD.EDU (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 20:09:02 -0400 Subject: Brain Surgeons and ITS comming In-Reply-To: <199508300958.AA14431@vnet.net> from "Oyster Girl" at Aug 30, 95 05:49:05 am Message-ID: As long as TBS [a better acronym than just BS! ;)] keep playing "Time Is Gonna Take Care Of You" (or whatever the real title is). That's rapidly becoming my favorite tune of theirs. I know it's from the first album, it's the second album that's in vogue now ;) but it just rocks so incredibly live--the little tempo shift, the massively heavy guitars, and of course Deb screech the title in the chorus. I have to work out the chords and licks for some TBS material so I can jam on it with people and (if I still make it to England) if I get a new band we can cover them :) (I also dream of covering "Warriors of Gengis Khan" by Bad News of course .... :) I'd comment on TBS show in Burlington extensively as well, except it's already been mentioned a while ago ('fraid I've been on jury duty this week and have barely had so much time as to merely skim through my mail). I'll add that it was great, and as good as the studio material is the live band is even better. I liked the material I'd only heard on album, but it really caught on fire live. Plus, I'd like to thank TBS for guest listing us in to the show and for putting up with our well meaning attempts to help lug their gear around. And I'd like to thank Chip for hammering this show into place :) and for that tasty beer (#9 from Magic Hat). Alas! I didn't get a chance to introduce my sister to the band, but she was pretty impressed with TBS, never having heard them before (she was the red-head standing by myself and Tania). Too bad as usual that there wasn't even more Brain Surgeons--I'd love to come down to the CBGB's show, but that's doubtful :( still after three shows I've seen about 2 hours of Brain Surgery and that's no bad thing at alll, at all :) It quite relieves the pressure ... Cheers, Carl From canders at WJH.HARVARD.EDU Wed Aug 30 20:58:28 1995 From: canders at WJH.HARVARD.EDU (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 20:58:28 -0400 Subject: IMPORTANT! Age Poll = Directory, Format included. In-Reply-To: from "jean l delacour" at Aug 30, 95 05:14:47 pm Message-ID: Name: Carl Edlund Anderson Handle: None. E-Mail Address: canders at wjh.harvard.edu Primary Band: None! First Times Seen Live: Hawkwind April 1995; BOC November 1993; Brain Surgeons November 1994; Nikwind January 1994. Last Times Seen Live: Hawkwind April 1995; BOC August 1994; Brain Surgeons August 1995; Nikwind July 1995. Favorite Albums: Hawkwind _Palace Springs_/_Space Ritual_/_Hall of the Mountain Grill_; BOC _Imaginos_/_Secret Treaties_; Brain Surgeons [oooh! not sure yet!]; Nikwind [err, not really sure which neo-Nik albums count as Nikwind!] Last Albums Purchased: Hawkwind _QS&C_ [Griffin version]; BOC _Cult Classic_; Brain Surgeons _Trepanation_; Nikwind, well, maybe _Anubian Lights_, otherwise _Space Ritual 1994_. Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: Yup! All of 'em ... :) Comments: Discovered BOC-L for a friend who was into BOC. They got me into BOC, I joined the list, got into Hawkwind as well, and life has never been the same since, but I've heard _lots_ of cool music! Besides metal/hard rock and weird psychedelia I'm into English, Celtic, and Scandinavian folk and folk-rock. I play guitar and bass (among other things) and have a degree in Folklore & Mythology (gods help me! ;) Cheers, Carl From canders at WJH.HARVARD.EDU Wed Aug 30 21:04:10 1995 From: canders at WJH.HARVARD.EDU (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 21:04:10 -0400 Subject: Age pooll Message-ID: Forgot to put my age of course! :P Age: 23 (Sept 22 1971) Cheers, Carl (I think I must have missed the complete offical form for this poll ...) From tox at WJH.HARVARD.EDU Wed Aug 30 21:05:18 1995 From: tox at WJH.HARVARD.EDU (Tox) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 21:05:18 -0400 Subject: Brain Surgeons and ITS comming In-Reply-To: <199508310009.UAA09098@wjh.harvard.edu> Message-ID: On Wed, 30 Aug 1995, Carl E. Anderson wrote: > I have to work out the chords and licks for some TBS material so I > can jam on it with people and (if I still make it to England) if I get a > new band we can cover them :) (I also dream of covering "Warriors of > Gengis Khan" by Bad News of course .... :) > But what has Ingeld to do with Al? From gumby at PRIMENET.COM Wed Aug 30 22:38:25 1995 From: gumby at PRIMENET.COM (Thomas Nelson) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 19:38:25 -0700 Subject: Forward to BOC-L Message-ID: >Date: Wed, 30 Aug 95 18:33:12 PDT >Reply-To: squinn at digital.net (Shawn Quinn) >From: squinn at digital.net (Shawn Quinn) >To: Thomas Nelson >Subject: RE: Age Poll > > >Name: Shawn Quinn >Handle: squinn >Age: 30 >E-Mail Address:squinn at digital.net >Primary Band: BOC >First Time Seen Live: 1983 Elmira, NY >Last time Seen Live: November, 1994, Orlando, FL >Favorite Album: Imaginos/Secret Treaties (Tie) >Last Album Purchased: Into the Crypts of the Rays >Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: Yes >Comments (please be brief): One positive about the current state of the band >is that you can often talk to band members before or after their club concerts. >Location: (Where do you live): Central Florida > ---------------------------------------- gumby at primenet.com "In my tortured ears there sounds unceasingly a nightmare whirring and flapping..." H.P. Lovecraft ("The Hound," 1924) ---------------------------------------- From bpalace!jbrooks at CONNECTNET1.CONNECTNET.COM Wed Aug 30 23:54:51 1995 From: bpalace!jbrooks at CONNECTNET1.CONNECTNET.COM (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 19:54:51 -0800 Subject: BOC: 9\4\95, Santa Ana Message-ID: On Tue 29-Aug-1995 5:58a, Joseph Brooks wrote: JB> I'm thinking about driving up from Sa Diego... But I'm a bit broke and am JB> driving up on 5/2 for the HORDE fest. Depends on cash flow and whether or Ooops, make that 9/2.... ||\ * Ask me for my PGP Key! "San Diego's ||< * Brokedown Palace! 619-596-1974/7419 Original |_||/ * jbrooks at bpalace.com Grateful BBS" From bpalace!jbrooks at CONNECTNET1.CONNECTNET.COM Thu Aug 31 00:00:34 1995 From: bpalace!jbrooks at CONNECTNET1.CONNECTNET.COM (Joseph Brooks) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 20:00:34 -0800 Subject: BOC R.I.P.?? Message-ID: On Wed 30-Aug-1995 4:03p, John A Swartz wrote: JS> Torgo writes regarding Cult Classic: JS> You will get different answers to this question from different people. JS> You will find that most of the good people of boc-l hold this album with JS> a clothespin on the nose and a long pair of forceps, as they step on the JS> foot lever of the diaper pail of music. (They think it stinks). JS> I like it, and there are a few of us on BOC-L that do. But, I can JS> definitely understand why it has not met with rave reviews here. I, for one, passed it by because I already had all the songs. I'm a little strange in that I detest 'best of' albums. Most of them aways contain all the radio songs that I'm already sick of anyway. I woud liketo have copies of the TV versions and remixes but not enough to shell out for the CD. I will probably buy Workshop though.. Just to get some of the good stuff on CD as all my BOC except Imaginos is on LP. ||\ * Ask me for my PGP Key! "San Diego's ||< * Brokedown Palace! 619-596-1974/7419 Original |_||/ * jbrooks at bpalace.com Grateful BBS" From NSTK33A at PRODIGY.COM Thu Aug 31 01:09:42 1995 From: NSTK33A at PRODIGY.COM (ROB MAERZ) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 01:09:42 -0400 Subject: age stuff... Message-ID: -- [ From: Rob Maerz * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- Rob "ROBODUDE" Maerz born 2/23/70 ss # 666-69-2112 saw BOC for first time in 1982 (City Island, Harrisburg, PA) and last time at Infinity Nite Club in Harrisburg last Saturday... 1st BOC album: Blue Oyster Cult Last BOC album: Imaginos Hawkwind has some good tunes, but I can't tolerate them too much... personal stuff: plays a Fender Strat, uses a Genson Micro 486 dx2/66, poet, youngest of 4 children, and a very distant relative of some dude by the name of Mozart... ROBODUDE ______________________________________________________ Q: What's a BOC Web site 2 cheap to have a BOC logo on it? A: Underbelly Online! http://pages.prodigy.com/PA/robo/robo1.html message boards, tape trades, links and library (coming soon!) ______________________________________________________ From K_Barton at ENG.HUD.AC.UK Thu Aug 31 07:52:44 1995 From: K_Barton at ENG.HUD.AC.UK (K_Barton at ENG.HUD.AC.UK) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 08:52:44 -0300 Subject: Age Poll Message-ID: Name: Keith Barton DOB: 19/9/69 Locattion: Huddersfield, UK Handle: None that I know of! E-Mail Address: K_Barton at eng.hud.ac.uk Primary Band: HW First Time Seen Live: Stonehenge '84 Last time Seen Live: Bradford '92 (or was it '93?) Favorite Album: I like them all! Last Album Purchased: Strange Trips and Pipe Dreams Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: No Comments (please be brief): Saw Huw Lloyd Langton playing an impromptu HW set in my local pub. He had nowhere to stay so he crashed at my house. From grant_c%wglim1.DNET at SB.COM Thu Aug 31 05:24:33 1995 From: grant_c%wglim1.DNET at SB.COM (CHARLES THE GRINNING BOY) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 05:24:33 -0400 Subject: My Civilisation Message-ID: Hi all, Just a couple of things / observations about "My Civilisation" on Trepanation. Firstly I was not privelidged to be on this list when whatever the thread was that gave rise to the lyrics, could anyone enlighten me please? Secondly, while I _DON'T_ want to reopen the censorship debate which was on here a while ago, I believe it was started when someone made a comment about the "bleep" on the live version of Godzilla during Eyes's introduction, No-one has yet commented on the fact the the line (I think it says) "Why give a flying fuck about AIDS" is printed in full on the lyrics on the insert, but the expletive is deleted with a "bleep" when Deb sings the line on the track. It just seems a bit incongruous to me. Any comments anyone? .......Charlie. grant_c%wglim1.dnet at sb.com From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Thu Aug 31 08:12:07 1995 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 08:12:07 -0400 Subject: BOC R.I.P.?? Message-ID: Manuel: You missed my previous comment on CC. I said almost exactly what you said -- studio "Buck's Boogie" is for me worth the price of admission, and the other two standouts IMHO were "Summer of Love" and "O.D.'d on Life Itself". My recent point is that despite its highs, the lows on the disc left a bad taste in many a BOC-Ler's mouth. John From sonique at AARDVARK.APANA.ORG.AU Thu Aug 31 18:24:48 1995 From: sonique at AARDVARK.APANA.ORG.AU (Paul Ward) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 22:24:48 +0000 Subject: HW: LP review - Space Ritual Message-ID: Record Review: Hawkwind 'Space Ritual' -------------------------------------- Disclaimer: Hey! I've never done this before. I have *NO* artistic talent whatsoever, and my opinion is mine, and no-one elses! I do know what I like though, and that means HAWKWIND! Any reference to record labels & catalog numbers reflects what my copy is, and is not necessarily the only (or original) release. Artist/s: Hawkwind Title: Space Ritual Label/Cat#: United Artists UAL-44142 1st Release: 1973 Lineup: Bob Calvert, Dave Brock, Lemmy, Nik Turner, DikMik, Del Dettmar, Simon King "... Give up illusions about ideas of order, accept nothing of inherited norm. Spread joy and revolution. It is the business of the future to be dangerous." What do naked women, lions, ancient statues, stars and planets, skeletons, men in bowlers hats, poetry, cosmic facts and mythology have in common? Who cares about the cover man .... throw that vinyl on the turntable! This is the pinnacle of Hawkwind's early years, their fourth LP release. It was recorded live in December 1992, during the Space Ritual tour which co-incided with the release of the "Doremi Fasol Latido" LP. It is the stuff that legends are made of and firmly puts Hawkwind forward as the founders and masters of Space Rock. Calvert makes his debut musical appearance on this LP, along with a few Michael Moorcock (the world renowned science-fantasy author) penned tracks - two names which would have a great deal to do with Hawkwind's future direction. The Space Ritual does need any introduction to confirmed Hawkfans, but any 'newbies' - read on ..... The double live set abounds with spacey analog synth effects that are so charecterise early 70's Hawkwind. The opening track "Earth Calling" segues beautifully (if you can use the word in this context) into the predominate bass guitar of Lemmy and drumwork of King in "Born to Go", which features an effective dual vocal effect created by Brock and Calvert. Following this is a slightly more 'electric' version (than the original from Doremi ) of "Down through the night". Side one concludes with "The Awakening", Calvert poetry set to the sounds of space, telling us of the feelings of loss and horror experienced by the captain of a space craft in dealing with a centuries long journey through space. The seque into "Lord of Light" is sadly destroyed by the fact that you must flip the vinyl over, but as one of my favourite tracks I can live with this. Turner's alto sax is more noticeable here than ever before, adding a component to the sound of Hawkwind which we all know and love. Moorcock's "The Black Corridor", a poem all about space and it's vastness (and our reultant insignificance) is the perfect introduction to the classic "Space is Deep". The first LP concludes with Dettmar's synth trip "Electronic No. 1". While the first LP on it's own could be considered one of Hawkwind's greatest efforts, it is the second pice of vinyl which really shines. "Orgone Accumulator", Calvert's first non-poetry vocal effort really kicks, as does "Master of the Universe" (much faster than the 'Doremi' version, but who can say which one is the best?). Moorcock's "Sonic Attack" (informing us all of the steps we must take to survive 'imminent sonic destruction') and Calvert's "10 Seconds of Forever" (the haunting tale of the thoughts and memories of a man during the last moments of the Universe) make perfect introductions to "Time we left this world today" and "Brainstorm", both of which are more powerful than one would consider possible. The methodic (this is not a critical comment) "Upside Down", and the slower but powerful "7 by 7" make up the rest of this set, which closes with Calvert's "Welcome to the Future" and a crescendo drums and effects. I can only think of one criticism with this album - I was too young and on the wrong side of the world in 1972 to be there! If you buy nothing else, do not miss this album. Some of the tracks have been re-released on various compilations (such as 'Stasis'), but you have to experience the Space Ritual in it's entirety to call yourself a Hawkfan. -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at aardvark.apana.org.au //// '~ ( --- they http://aardvark.apana.org.au/~sonique/my.html /////// : ; --- Fly! From sonique at AARDVARK.APANA.ORG.AU Thu Aug 31 18:25:34 1995 From: sonique at AARDVARK.APANA.ORG.AU (Paul Ward) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 22:25:34 +0000 Subject: HW: LP Review - Hall of the Mountain Grill Message-ID: Record Review: Hawkwind 'Hall of the Mountain Grill' ---------------------------------------------------- Disclaimer: Hey! I've never done this before. I have *NO* artistic talent whatsoever, and my opinion is mine, and no-one elses! I do know what I like though, and that means HAWKWIND! Any reference to record labels & catalog numbers reflects what my copy is, and is not necessarily the only (or original) release. Artist/s: Hawkwind Title: Hall of the Mountain Grill Label/Cat#: United Artists UAC-5056 1st Release: 1974 Lineup: Dave Brock, Lemmy, Simon House, Nik Turner, Del Dettmar, Simon King "... and in the grove, by gate and hill, midst merry throng and market clatter - stood the Hall of the Mountain Grill where table strain'd 'neath loaded platter." (from the Legend of Beezon Toste) This, their fifth LP release, marks a major change in direction for the Lords of the Hawk. Gone is the throbbing, bassy 'wall of sound' interspersed with spacey anolog synth effects, replaced with a gentler, cleaner, sharper, more instrumental sound. In fact, this album plays host to instruments as diverse (for Hawkwind) as organ, mellotron, violin, oboe, flute and kalimba in addition to the 'standard' keyboards, bass, drums, rythm/lead guitar and sax. The band have obviously replaced their stolen analog synths with more modern equipment. Although Hawkfan's at the time may have been shocked by the sudden change in direction, it is all for the better in my (humble) opinion. 'Doremi' and 'Space Ritual' could not be repeated (and the attempt shouldn't be made) - a new direction for 'Space Rock' had to occur. In hindsight, the Hawkwind we know and love may not still be with us '25 years on' if they did'nt take this step. Another verbal diarrhea .... the result of the change in style is a more widely acceptable recording, without becoming 'commercial'. Many Hawkfan's rate this LP as one of the best. The opening track, "Psychedelic Warlords (disappear in smoke)" demonstrates the new focus on lead and rythm guitar, rather than bass and drums, as well as a more formal structure, and effective chorus implementation. The 'space' effects are still present, but are much more subtle than before, with more focus on applying effects to other instruments, rather than as seperate entities. The second track, "Wind of Change" (sums the album up!) blends in sounds of the wind with the rumble from the end of the first track. The addition of keyboards, organ and violin to this rather slow 'mood music' track is quite effective. The gentle but dramatic "D-Rider" follows, and side one concludes the very instrumental "Web Weaver", combining Brock's 12-string guitar with 'electric' piano accompanyment to produce a track which is in some ways reminiscent of "You know your'e only dreaming" from 'X in Search of Space', only more cheerful. Side two opens with my pick of the bunch - "You'd Better Believe it". 'Space Rock' lyrics are very evident in this recording, which is pacier than most on side one. The use of keyboards rather than 'random' notes on the guitar is put to good use - maintaining the spacey feel to the track without trying to emulate the past. The title track, is an instrumental which doesn't appeal to me at all, but is followed by Lemmy's contribution "Lost Johnny". Bass guitar is back as the focus for this track, with Lemmy's very 'Motorhead-ish' vocal style adding to what is the rockiest track on the album. A very short instrumental, "Goat Willow" follows, and combine flute and acoustic guitar to produce an effect feeling of 'nature', as expressed by it's title. "Paradox" concludes this release, featuring dominate rythym guitar with drum/bass breaks during the chorus, and occasional 'snatches' of lyrics from older tracks. It's hard to portray this album in textual form, but if you are really into early Hawkwind you may be initially disappointed by this album - but probably not for long. Those who don't like the 'Space Ritual' style of Hawkwind (I'm told they do exist!) will probably fall in love with it! I know it's one of my favourites, so give it a spin! -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at aardvark.apana.org.au //// '~ ( --- they http://aardvark.apana.org.au/~sonique/my.html /////// : ; --- Fly! From sonique at AARDVARK.APANA.ORG.AU Thu Aug 31 18:26:26 1995 From: sonique at AARDVARK.APANA.ORG.AU (Paul Ward) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 22:26:26 +0000 Subject: HW: Missing LP Review - Warrior on the Edge of Time Message-ID: Gidday All! I hope that (at least some) of you are enjoying my HW album reviews! Next on the list is "Warrior on the Edge of Time". Problem is - I don't own this, and haven't listened to it for about 10 years, so it's gunna be hard to review! Could some other kind Hawkfan do a review of this, so as not to leave any blanks ? In any case, I'll get started on "Astounding" (I'm going to leave all compilations until after I've done all the original releases, so "RoadHawks" etc. will be missed for now) Paul -- Paul Ward aka: Assassin Sonique' .---. __ .-------- Long R & D Manager, P & C Micro's Pty Ltd / \( o`-, ----- may mail: sonique at aardvark.apana.org.au //// '~ ( --- they http://aardvark.apana.org.au/~sonique/my.html /////// : ; --- Fly! From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Thu Aug 31 08:27:08 1995 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 08:27:08 -0400 Subject: Brain Surgeons and ITS comming Message-ID: Carl comments on some Brain Surgeons stuff, with my responses following his comments: > As long as TBS [a better acronym than just BS! ;)] keep playing "Time Is Gonna Take Care Of You" (or whatever the real title is). That's rapidly becoming my favorite tune of theirs. I know it's from the first album, it's the second album that's in vogue now ;) but it just rocks so incredibly live--the little tempo shift, the massively heavy guitars, and of course Deb screech the title in the chorus. Yeah, that was probably my #2 TBS tune on *Eponymous* (#1 until I heard them do "Name Your Monster" live -- which is still now my favorite Surgeon tune). I was probably the heaviest on that disc, but is taken to quite a higher level live - there are a few subtle guitar lines on the disc that are sledgehammered at you live which is just fantastic. Also, it is of course one of the songs that shows Deb's ability to really belt out a heavy rocker ("T T T TIIIIIIIMMMMEEEEE . . . is gonna take care of YOOOOOUUUUUUU . . .") - gotta love it. > I have to work out the chords and licks for some TBS material so I can jam on it with people and (if I still make it to England) if I get a new band we can cover them :) Let me know if you ever get one together - if I can get a temporary reprieve from my family duties, I'd love to be part of a jam. I've been working out a few Surgeons tunes on the bass (some of the basslines on *Trepanation* are a bit trickier than *Eponymous*, but I'm working on it), and as long as 60 Watts out of my amp is enough . . . TBS huh? I suppose it's better than BS, but how 'bout BrS? John From jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG Thu Aug 31 08:36:03 1995 From: jswartz at MBUNIX.MITRE.ORG (John A Swartz) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 08:36:03 -0400 Subject: My Civilisation Message-ID: Charlie writes: Secondly, while I _DON'T_ want to reopen the censorship debate which was on here a while ago, I believe it was started when someone made a comment about the "bleep" on the live version of Godzilla during Eyes's introduction, No-one has yet commented on the fact the the line (I think it says) "Why give a flying fuck about AIDS" is printed in full on the lyrics on the insert, but the expletive is deleted with a "bleep" when Deb sings the line on the track. It just seems a bit incongruous to me. Well, I made a comment on it when I provided the list with a review of the disc. Here's what I said: Interesting that the word "fuck" is bleeped on the disc - this strikes me as out of character for The Brain Surgeons, but perhaps they've already got plans to release this as a single? Of course, looking at my comment, I'm thinking, "well, perhaps it was bleeped because that's exactly what I would expect the Brain Surgeons NOT to do" Like, the Brain Surgeons refusing to be typecast. Although, I thinkg this song would be a great single (and it's my favorite on the disc), so maybe the bleep is needed . . . Hey Al/Deb - what's the deal with the bleep? John From emphyrio at CIX.COMPULINK.CO.UK Thu Aug 31 13:40:00 1995 From: emphyrio at CIX.COMPULINK.CO.UK (Andrew Gilham) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 13:40:00 BST-1 Subject: BOC, BRAIN: Les Invisibles Message-ID: You know that puzzling line "Do the Don Pedro"? I reckon what Al really meant was "Drove up from Pedro" :) - Andy From grant_c%wglim1.DNET at SB.COM Thu Aug 31 08:43:13 1995 From: grant_c%wglim1.DNET at SB.COM (CHARLES THE GRINNING BOY) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 08:43:13 -0400 Subject: BOC European Tour??? Message-ID: Well, I just got my copy of Morning Final 12 in the post and although I have only had time to read a few things it looks really good and is up to the high standard we now take for granted, well done to Bolle, Melne and all concerned. What also interested me was a little snippet on the accompanying note, it gives the tour dates for the September tour in the US with a small aside saying something like: People east of the Atlantic, BOC are slated to be touring Europe, Scandanavia and Greece during November. Has anyone any details. Is it a headlining tour, because if they are going to be added as support to an already sold out tour (eg Rainbow) then there are going to be alot of dissappointed BOC fans. Also, anyone know anything about Danny Miranda, Greg's bass replacement? .......Charlie. grant_c%wglim1.dnet at sb.com From HELLERS at A1.MGH.HARVARD.EDU Thu Aug 31 09:51:00 1995 From: HELLERS at A1.MGH.HARVARD.EDU (Scott Heller (617) 724-7762) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 08:51:00 -0500 Subject: New HW Ep Message-ID: I have heard that HW will have a new Ep out on CD and 12" form called Area S4. I don't know if it is techno remix material or new stuff. Reminds me of the title of the Eat Static tune, Area 51. Scott From emphyrio at CIX.COMPULINK.CO.UK Thu Aug 31 14:10:00 1995 From: emphyrio at CIX.COMPULINK.CO.UK (Andrew Gilham) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 14:10:00 BST-1 Subject: BRAIN: Extreme marginalia Message-ID: Friday's late film on BBC2 is the 1950 Jimmy Cagney flick, _Kiss Tomorrow Goodbye_... - Andy From sop04afw at GOLD.AC.UK Thu Aug 31 09:28:07 1995 From: sop04afw at GOLD.AC.UK (yuri garagin) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 14:28:07 +0100 Subject: New HW Ep In-Reply-To: <01HUPU4018A0YAWPTY@MR.MGH.HARVARD.EDU> Message-ID: On Thu, 31 Aug 1995, Scott Heller (617) 724-7762 wrote: > I have heard that HW will have a new Ep out on CD and 12" form called > Area S4. I don't know if it is techno remix material or new stuff. > Reminds me of the title of the Eat Static tune, Area 51. > Scott > mmm, i also heard that the release was limited and have a sneaky feeling that i heard this right here (jill?); area s4 refers to tha same thyng as area51, the 'secret' nevada test base used by the u.s. to test alien technology/advanced aeronautic thingeese (depending on which story you prefer). Although, as far as my meme-orrery stretches, i think area s-4 is a sub-area of 51 where the ebe's (extraterrestrial biological entities) are housed/their tech is stored. The whole alien thing suggests that there are greys there offering technical advice etc etc and/or abducting humes for food etc. More info (and amusing it can be too) from area 51 research centre @: http://www.cris.com/~psyspy/area51/index.shtml and yes it does say shtml. yeah i can see how this would attract thee hawks: govt conspiracies, space peoples etc, and *maybe* it fits in with boc's imaginos thang? not being a bocker i wouldn't really know. also eat static, and even the stranglers: the men in black on the raven lp & the gospel according to etc yg From daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK Thu Aug 31 13:35:25 1995 From: daveb at HARLEQUIN.CO.UK (Dave Berry) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 14:35:25 -0300 Subject: HW: LP review 'X In Search of Space' In-Reply-To: Paul Ward's message of Sat, 19 Aug 1995 08:50:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: > Disclaimer: Hey! I've never done this before. You're doing a good job. I've got one suggestion, and that refers to the first two albums. It might be worth making the point that these aren't 'heavy' in the style of Doremi, Space Ritual, etc. The first album is kind of psychedelic, and the second has a sort of trancey feel to it (though its not as slow as that sounds). (Even the word 'heavy' would need qualification, since you don't find lycra-clad lead guitarists twiddling their bits on a hawkwind album!) Dave. From K_Barton at ENG.HUD.AC.UK Thu Aug 31 14:12:36 1995 From: K_Barton at ENG.HUD.AC.UK (K_Barton at ENG.HUD.AC.UK) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 15:12:36 -0300 Subject: LP review - Space Ritual Message-ID: Hello, I really like these reviews. It's great to see other peoples opinions on albums. BUT............... >This is the pinnacle of Hawkwind's early years, their fourth LP release. It was >recorded live in December 1992, during the Space Ritual tour which co-incided >with the release of the "Doremi Fasol Latido" LP. It is the stuff that legends >are made of and firmly puts Hawkwind forward as the founders and masters of >Space Rock. 1992 .?.?.?................... Must be the Morphail Effect. Keith From bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK Thu Aug 31 11:44:15 1995 From: bart at AEOLIANS.BT.CO.UK (bart) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 16:44:15 +0100 Subject: New HW Ep In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 31 Aug 1995 14:28:07 BST." Message-ID: > On Thu, 31 Aug 1995, Scott Heller (617) 724-7762 wrote: > I have heard > that HW will have a new Ep out on CD and 12" form called > Area S4. I > don't know if it is techno remix material or new stuff. > Reminds me of > the title of the Eat Static tune, Area 51. > Scott > mmm, i also heard And even more like Apocrypha's "Area 54" Geee, whatever happened to them ? > that the release was limited and have a sneaky feeling that i heard this > right here (jill?); area s4 refers to tha same thyng as area51, the > 'secret' nevada test base used by the u.s. to test alien > technology/advanced aeronautic thingeese (depending on which story you > prefer). Although, as far as my meme-orrery stretches, i think area s-4 is > a sub-area of 51 where the ebe's (extraterrestrial biological entities) > are housed/their tech is stored. Location of Hangar 18 (Megadeth), in turn, the location of the Blue Room (The Orb). A veritable intersection (or is that Four Corners ;-) of bands. Tim O'd on excessive sci-fi and conspiracy theories, coutesy of Channel 4 & BBC2 From NSTK33A at PRODIGY.COM Thu Aug 31 12:48:02 1995 From: NSTK33A at PRODIGY.COM (ROB MAERZ) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 12:48:02 -0400 Subject: Underbelly Online Updates Message-ID: -- [ From: Rob Maerz * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- this weeks updates: *Stairway To The Stars- features Mike Watt (the Black...) and link to Miles' Web page to d/l a .jpg of BOC...U.O. poll.... * Lips In the Hills- review of the Harrisburg gig, plus some articles and stuff...concert dates, T-shirt ordering info... ROBODUDE ______________________________________________________ Q: What's a BOC Web site 2 cheap to have a BOC logo on it? A: Underbelly Online! http://pages.prodigy.com/PA/robo/robo1.html message boards, tape trades, links and library (coming soon!) ______________________________________________________ From NSTK33A at PRODIGY.COM Thu Aug 31 12:47:43 1995 From: NSTK33A at PRODIGY.COM (ROB MAERZ) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 12:47:43 -0400 Subject: BOC European Tour??? Message-ID: -- [ From: Rob Maerz * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- > Date: Thursday, 31-Aug-95 09:13 AM > > From: Charlie_grant \ Internet: (grant_c%wglim1.dnet at sb.com) > To: Rob Maerz \ PRODIGY: (NSTK33A) > > Subject: BOC European Tour??? > > saying something like: People east of the Atlantic, BOC are slated to be > touring Europe, Scandanavia and Greece during November. > at last nights chat, EB mentioned a tour of Europe, but no specific dates as yet...I was trying to get him to play Germany, since my bro is stationed over there... ROBODUDE ______________________________________________________ Q: What's a BOC Web site 2 cheap to have a BOC logo on it? A: Underbelly Online! http://pages.prodigy.com/PA/robo/robo1.html message boards, tape trades, links and library (coming soon!) ______________________________________________________ From pmitchel at CSM.EX.AC.UK Thu Aug 31 15:01:12 1995 From: pmitchel at CSM.EX.AC.UK (P Mitchell) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 19:01:12 GMT Subject: HW: UK/Europe: who wants covers tapes? Message-ID: Could you put me on the list for HW covers tapes, although I would like a bit more info on them just to be certain (I am a late comer to the newslist). Thanks, Paul Mitchell. From canders at WJH.HARVARD.EDU Thu Aug 31 19:23:59 1995 From: canders at WJH.HARVARD.EDU (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 19:23:59 -0400 Subject: My Civilisation In-Reply-To: <199508311236.IAA21183@mbunix.mitre.org> from "John A Swartz" at Aug 31, 95 08:36:03 am Message-ID: > Interesting that the word "fuck" is > bleeped on the disc - this strikes me as out of character for The Brain > Surgeons, but perhaps they've already got plans to release this as a single? > Of course, looking at my comment, I'm thinking, "well, perhaps it was > bleeped because that's exactly what I would expect the Brain Surgeons > NOT to do" Like, the Brain Surgeons refusing to be typecast. Although, > I thinkg this song would be a great single (and it's my favorite on the > disc), so maybe the bleep is needed . . . It's my opinion that it must have been done deliberately. If they felt strongly about using the word "fuck" (if not actually "Belgium"--sorry 'bout that non-Hitchhiker's fans ;) they could have left it on the album and bleeped a version for radio-play (thus also creating a rarer bleeped version that would be immediately purchased by every BOC/BrS fan on the list ;) Or they could have just bleeped it for fun. After all, saying "fuck" in a song is no longer new and shocking. But bleeping is much more likely to get people's attention ... as y'all may note it has in fact done on this list! :) Cheers, Carl From canders at WJH.HARVARD.EDU Thu Aug 31 19:28:01 1995 From: canders at WJH.HARVARD.EDU (Carl E. Anderson) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 19:28:01 -0400 Subject: Brain Surgeons and ITS comming In-Reply-To: <199508311227.IAA19552@mbunix.mitre.org> from "John A Swartz" at Aug 31, 95 08:27:08 am Message-ID: > Also, it is of course one of the songs that shows Deb's ability to really > belt out a heavy rocker ("T T T TIIIIIIIMMMMEEEEE . . . is gonna take care > of YOOOOOUUUUUUU . . .") - gotta love it. Did I already say it rules? :) > > I have to work out the chords and licks for some TBS material so I > can jam on it with people and (if I still make it to England) if I get a > new band we can cover them :) > > Let me know if you ever get one together - if I can get a temporary > reprieve from my family duties, I'd love to be part of a jam. I've been > working out a few Surgeons tunes on the bass (some of the basslines on > *Trepanation* are a bit trickier than *Eponymous*, but I'm working on > it), and as long as 60 Watts out of my amp is enough . . . I'd still like to do a Boston area jam some weekend in September at my place. Assuming Cambridge U. gets off its ass and admits me pretty damn pronto to a college any future jams I attend will be in England's Green & Pleasant Land--but a good jam would be a fine send off from the States. Cheers, Carl > TBS huh? I suppose it's better than BS, but how 'bout BrS? > > John > From aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU Thu Aug 31 22:43:33 1995 From: aa5287 at FREENET.LORAIN.OBERLIN.EDU (Duane Hoyt) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 22:43:33 -0400 Subject: BOC RIP?? Message-ID: Just wanted to add a few thoughts to this thread. >Ab's had some coffee. Beware Well, Duane's had some Samual Adams Honey Porters, so really beware!:) >Hey I kinda like Club Ninja too, just too embarrased to admit it. Thought I >would be flamed for doing so. OK now all you other Ninja fans can come out >of the closet. Personally, I like Club Ninja better than Mirrors. I especially like Whit Flags. I think it might have been a more commercial endeavor then Imaginos, but you could have said the same thing about AoF. And no, I am not even remotely comparing the two. I haven't listened to Mirrors since I bought it, listened twice and put it away in a closet. Maybe I'll pull it out and dust it off and give it a spin. I have found that the years tend to alter one's tastes in music, and what I didn't like before, maybe will sound a little better this time around. But honestly, " Pretty girls can't look away..."? Give me a break. Duane -- " If you want a friend just feed any animal..." From stuarth at CBR.DIT.CSIRO.AU Thu Aug 31 22:55:16 1995 From: stuarth at CBR.DIT.CSIRO.AU (Stuart Hungerford) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 12:55:16 +1000 Subject: Age poll contribution (better late than never)... Message-ID: Name: Stuart Hungerford Age: 34 Handle: None, but photo available for FTP if you like E-Mail Address: stuart.hungerford at dit.csiro.au Primary Band: Too many to mention although Hawkwind is right up there... First Time Seen Live: Sob..Never! Last time Seen Live: Ditto Favorite Album: Quark, Strangeness and Charm Last Album Purchased: Live Chronicles Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: Just a little Comments (please be brief): Was introduced to HW in late 1978 by hearing Do Re Mi, Warrior, and Astounding Sounds etc in a one week period. Never really recovered from that. Bought and loved PXR5, QS&C and 25 Years On sometime in 1979 or 1980. I've never seen them live (more sobs) but I was the first person to join the list when it was set up by Steve Swann. I owe my interest in Spandex jumpsuits and snakeskin boots to him ;-) From bedens at INTELLINET.COM Thu Aug 31 23:35:39 1995 From: bedens at INTELLINET.COM (Bert Edens) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 22:35:39 -0500 Subject: Brain Surgeons, 8/25/95 Message-ID: >On Tue, 29 Aug 1995 AB wrote: >> Hmmmm. lets see, New York City to Baltimore/Washington corridore by >> car took me 5-6 hours I think... Hey Al does Baltimore fit into the 7 >> hour drive time limit? >Sure. If we can score a decent gig we'll do it. >Al Well, if you can go 5-6 hours to DC, surely you can make it the 30 some-odd hours to NW Arkansas... Whadda ya say? :) I know, I know... Gotta get some more CD's out first... :) - Bert ============================================= Bert Edens - bedens at intellinet.com http://www.intellinet.com/~bedens/home.html ObCD: Brain Surgeons, "Trepanation" ============================================= From eset08 at CASTLE.ED.AC.UK Wed Aug 30 18:50:53 1995 From: eset08 at CASTLE.ED.AC.UK (J Strobridge) Date: Wed, 30 Aug 1995 18:50:53 BST Subject: Age Poll In-Reply-To: Maxine Wesley's message of Wed, 30 Aug 1995 16:46:18 +0100 Message-ID: > > > "..the nights shall be filled with music > And the cares that infest the day e-mail: mxw at dmu.ac.uk > Shall fold their tents like Arabs http://www.dmu.ac.uk/~mxw > And as silently steal away" > > > (??? anyone know which poet wrote the above?) Yep - H.W. Longfellow (him of Hawkwind fame 8-)) from "The Day is Done" {{{thinks - thank you Dictionary of Quotations.....}}} ************** Re Directory: here's mine: Name: Jill Strobridge Age: XXXX {pass} Handle: jill E-Mail Address: J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk Primary Band: Hawkwind (and Relations) First Time Seen Live: Edinburgh, The Usher Hall, 198- (something) Last time Seen Live: Derby R & B Bike Show, Pentrich July 29th 1995 Best Gig: Truro, 17 April 1994. What a wonderful venue!! What a godawful place to get to 8-( First Album heard: Hawkwind (in the year of its release) First Album bought: Warrior On The Edge of Time Favorite Album: In Search of Space Last album purchased: Nik Turner "Anubian Lights" and Simon House "Yassasim" {joint purchase} Are You Familiar with the Other Band?: I've listened to 2 albums.... Comments (please be brief): "Future Generations Are Relying On Us" ========================================================================== J.D.Strobridge at ed.ac.uk eset08 at castle.ed.ac.uk ELIJSA at srv0.arts.ed.ac.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU Thu Aug 31 21:06:21 1995 From: p.sondergeld at QUT.EDU.AU (Peter Sondergeld) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 11:06:21 +1000 Subject: Baron Samedi Message-ID: > >Trivia time: R U Ready 2 Rock started out as "Baron Saturday." > This may be venturing off topic, but if my memory serves me correctly, there is a track on _SF Sorrow_ by the Pretty Things that is called "Baron Saturday". I'll have to give it a listen tonight when I get home. Maybe there are connections I never knew about. To refresh memories, _SF Sorrow_ is considered by many to be the first ever concept album and Pete Townsend has acknowledged it as the primary inspiration for _Tommy_. Pete. ************************** Peter Sondergeld p.sondergeld at qut.edu.au From lansford at VNET.NET Thu Aug 31 13:54:32 1995 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Oyster Girl) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 17:54:32 +0000 Subject: BOC: Cult Classic Message-ID: On 30 Aug 95, John A Swartz wrote: > I think one of the biggest gripes that some have with it is that > one would think that if songs are going to be re-done, they ought > to be better the second time around. Most folks don't feel that > Cult Classic's tunes are better than the originals. Different yes, > but by most people's definition, not better CC is, basically, the arrangements the boys have been playing live lately. IMO, it's worth it for the studio cut of Buck's Boogie, and tSoL is as heavy as it should have been the first time around. My biggest complaint is the vocals; there are times when I wonder if Eric was even listening to the tracks from the rest of the band. I'm less forgiving of rhythm glitches than I am of missed notes. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- It's not what people call you - but what you answer to - that matters. - Barry Saunders -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net From lansford at VNET.NET Thu Aug 31 13:54:31 1995 From: lansford at VNET.NET (Oyster Girl) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 17:54:31 +0000 Subject: Wait, Al...Stun Guitar? Message-ID: On 30 Aug 95, Andrew Gilham wrote: > > when I first saw them.. and, oh, I get it now... yes I seem to > > recall all of them doing a little solo part then as well... > > Indeed, you can see this on the _Live 1976_ tape. Boy, does Eric > concentrate when it's his turn! I didn't want to believe Albert's comments about Eric's guitar playing any more than anyone else (except maybe Steve Swann ;), but that snippit of tape was enough to convince me. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- It's not what people call you - but what you answer to - that matters. - Barry Saunders -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Jean Lansford lansford at vnet.net